John's Story Time

00:00 Adam Curry, John C. DeVora It's Sunday December 22nd 2019 This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 1201! This is no agenda Holding hands, telling stories and broadcasting almost live from Opportunity Zone 33 in the frontier of Austin Texas. Capital of the growing star state in the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where the weather has changed once again to kind of nil...I am John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning. Amazing how you can do a weather report on the show like this. Neil from the Buzzkill, because there is no weather and this is pre-recorded Yes, this is episode 1201 We are almost live which means...we're not I'm on a quick trip with The Keeper in New York John God knows what your doing You probably just sitting at home You're probably just sitting in your chair listening to the show as it rolls aren't you?

01:01 Exactly. Now this is a special show and we actually solicited this you want to explain what we're doing today on the show? Yeah, what happened was one of our producers did and there's been this has happened a couple times but this guy decided hey you know I like John stories maybe can I make... What would you think if i put a collection together and when did you just be able to just anecdotes because they're amusing And so he did and we listened to it. And it was funny, too. A point of course I'm more bad critic myself by the way that the person would talk about is Sir Rupin waffles He was knighted for this and Sir Rupin Waffles put this project together

01:42 Yes, let's get that straight. And then after that he did one of Adam stories because I felt it was unbalanced and that would never not playing that today because apparently I have enough stories to carry a show and so That's what we're gonna play now We're gonna start this off with Adams kind of discussion of how this came about and kind of a meta sense We're gonna play that and that's going to go right into the stories. I have a note Two notes. One, we... this is two shows that have been written and designed and gotten to it We have a producer project which I think would be fantastic for a future show A compilation show And this is not an easy task It's only for people who really have been listening to the show for awhile and kind of know where to seek this out We think it would be a great show To have John's stories

02:36 Just one after another so the stories like you know view with when you're frozen on the motorcycle trying to pick up the chick Another ones when you were learning how to you know fight chemical fires With there's a bunch of actually I told this story last night about my My first time. I shot an elephant gun story oh, we don't know this story here's a fine example No, no, I don't think so Alright, so I'm shooting with this guy. First of all he's a Silicon Valley CEO and he makes me promise to never mention that he was doing this... He's shooting because he got a huge gun collection it is great to shoot with him. So I am shooting with him and he does mention one side story which is above all people do not tell John Doerr

03:24 The Kleiner Perkins CEO. Because John Doerr is an extreme anti-gun nut to the point where there was a Halloween party not recently, it was probably five or six years ago I remember this story Yes Somebody comes in with like a kid's cowboy outfit as their Halloween thing I think that was Randy... who's the guy who wrote The Riddle and the Monk? Randy... douchebag Don't know Komisar! Randy Komisar Yeah Comes in with this, with the cowboy outfit on and a toy gun. And apparently Dor went ballistic over this toy gun being at the party. I've heard that story

04:03 Anyway, so we go out shooting and so I'm reshooting all these different guns. They get the shoot of a muscle Fireball which is really interesting gun to shoot and some other things and so this is elephant gun And so he says So I actually hit the target that was a big deal because you can't really aim it because you can't really hold steady enough as You got here's one of those shots where your moving cuz the damn gun weighs like 50 pounds He's trying moving around and you just crosses the target you shoot hoping they hit the target That kind of thing But before I wear the gun, it gives me this... It's like a football thing. There is bunch of padding. Oh! Giant for your shoulder yeah Big sh-thing And so uh.. This gun you shoot this thing and you go back about 4 feet

04:47 and it pushes you back. JC was also shooting, and I said should I shoot this thing? And he said no! This thing is not any fun at all. So the next day when I took a shower, this is punchline to the story, I take off my shirt and look into my entire chest, right side of my chest was solid blackened blue from shoulder down to stomach And this is with the padding. There's some powerful weapons out there. Oh yeah, okay so let's not include that one but... I think we only got two then. Yeah. I took my motorcycle up to Tahoe to see BB King and I figured I'd gamble while there. How old were you?

05:39 I don't remember. 24? Something like that. Do you have long flowing hair and a... No, my, I have very thin hair. What was the motorcycle? What kind of motorcycle? It was a Kawasaki Triple. Rice burner! Okay. Oh it was fast. Yeah rice burner. Anyway if it got too long I'd get these split ends and make my face itch so I never could grow really long hair is driving me nuts. So I go up there and i go to the tables before the concert, and I win...I don't know two three hundred dollars and decide that instead of spending the night I'm going to come back after the BB King concert. Go watch it! And had a great seat right in front was like a lounge act BB king. And you were doing blow or just drinking scotch? No, no.

06:27 I'm on a motorcycle. So you know, it's bad enough with the big gouges in Highway 80 that you could get killed just driving back so i say at the concert stores around midnight say hell with it! I'm driving home...I'll save the hotel costs and I'll just drive home. So it is not quite snowing but its below zero so it's freezing out. I got all this gear on me. You're aware that it's snowing? But I'm going to get there. Once I get down the hill, it's not going to be snowing for long. Wow! And so I start to get what do you call when you get too cold? It's called hypothermia. Hypothermia. So I started getting hypothermia and so I go into a gas station and make the mistake of warming up which is because if you're going to be cold yet you want to kind of keep... You don't want to go warm-cold warm-cold

07:21 So I started shivering like a maniac after i left the gas station, after I warmed up. And so I started driving on the entrance there is a beautiful woman hitchhiking! I mean dynamite you can see she was dressed up in a lot of gear and you could just see her face fantastic and so she's hitchhiking and I pull over to ask her if she wants to go but I'm so cold and freezing, i say to her... And she takes a look at me like im a crazy guy. She pulls out her gun? No! She slowly walks backwards like Homer Simpson says no thanks. And i realize like... So i said fuck it and just drove off. Yeah thats right.

08:16 I couldn't talk! How to Pick Up Chicks by John C. Dvorak. I visited the mansion, or the former mansion of the antebellum, or the Civil War... I guess he was a state officer Cassius Clay who was Henry Clay's brother and cash is clay at this place out in outside of the i think it's not settled lexington kentucky people are gonna start writing do you don't know anything but i think it's asset affecting that so i went in there and caches clays is very famous get senator and he uh...

08:56 uh... one time ethic canon apparently and he was an abolitionist which was not popular in the area as so they tried to like fuck with him uh... and the locals and so then including the sheriff and them and then local police and he had a cannon in front of his house that you'd fill with uh... shrapnel and when they came james you know what either get him or rest of our harassment whatever we're gonna do he's shooting at him and which was his uh... second amendment right to be exercised exactly and you know eventually they stopped coming over and uh... he needed to do that otherwise you know bad things would it we were gonna happen to him no thanks to the local authorities

09:40 And I've always thought that was like, you know people moaning and groaning about it. It's all weapons, all the rest... This guy has like a cannon that he is shooting at! So I'm always thinking back on that, what would have happened if he didn't have the cannon? I was in the luncheon place talking to some guy who is one of these big guys who went to all these concerts like I used to do and I noticed there was one curious thing that happened at the concert that I thought was odd in the middle of one of their songs which one of the sons had a break in it when they'd be singing and going crazy and have a break, then Jimmy Page would rip into a guitar solo. At the moment at the break somebody in that left-hand back corner let out a blood curdling shriek that matched beautifully with timing everything was perfect for music. It really added dimension to the song. Well actually got stabbed?

09:40 And I've always thought that was like, you know people moaning and groaning about it. It's all weapons, all the rest... This guy has like a cannon that he is shooting at! So I'm always thinking back on that, what would have happened if he didn't have the cannon? I was in the luncheon place talking to some guy who is one of these big guys who went to all these concerts like I used to do and I noticed there was one curious thing that happened at the concert that I thought was odd in the middle of one of their songs which one of the sons had a break in it when they'd be singing and going crazy and have a break, then Jimmy Page would rip into a guitar solo. At the moment at the break somebody in that left-hand back corner let out a blood curdling shriek that matched beautifully with timing everything was perfect for music. It really added dimension to the song. Well actually got stabbed?

10:39 No, it was just somebody screeching. But it always stuck in my mind as like awkwardly perfect. And you miss on the record? I went to this guy and said what day did you go and he went some other day. Did you notice and I pointed out specifically this blood curdling shriek at this one moment of song that left him back of room in a corner And he said, yeah I thought that was weird. I heard that too! So apparently they were ahead of their times with setting these shills into the audience. Oh cool Yeah that's what i was thinking but you know ever since then I think I've been skeptical about everything. I had this book and it reminded me of this...I told people this.. I can look at a guy and tell if he has had a vasectomy

10:39 No, it was just somebody screeching. But it always stuck in my mind as like awkwardly perfect. And you miss on the record? I went to this guy and said what day did you go and he went some other day. Did you notice and I pointed out specifically this blood curdling shriek at this one moment of song that left him back of room in a corner And he said, yeah I thought that was weird. I heard that too! So apparently they were ahead of their times with setting these shills into the audience. Oh cool Yeah that's what i was thinking but you know ever since then I think I've been skeptical about everything. I had this book and it reminded me of this...I told people this.. I can look at a guy and tell if he has had a vasectomy

11:31 Really? His face, the face. I'm not talking about you know... Okay wait a minute let me just get this straight so amongst your many talents and remember John has worked for oil companies he's a master chef he is a wine connoisseur he is technology expert He used to hand deliver PC magazine to all 30 thousand subscribers Not only that but You can tell just by looking at guys face whether he had a vasectomy or no Yeah, okay now how I got clued into this let me back up a little bit. Oh please do you had this? Oops ouch the backed up too far so

12:09 I had this book and it just irked to no end that I've lost this book, although I think I might be able to find it in one of the library searches that Google and Microsoft are doing. It was a book done in the 20's. And in 1920's, it was a book on health. In the 1920's vasectomies were used as a way of making people look more youthful. It wasn't for birth control which I don't know It was done for the purposes of, like instead of a facelift you'd get a vasectomy. And it would make you look younger and they showed all these pictures in this book and I looked at these pictures and I looked at enough of them and then I knew enough guys who had vasectomies that I could see what it does. For some reason, and I talk to people about this, well they say it makes no sense because all is does is this or that how could do what your describing? I'm just saying, in the 20's

13:03 Vasectomies were used as a youth serum. People get a vasectomy and they look younger by a little bit, but in fact they didn't look younger they looked different and it makes your face a little puffier and a little more softer It's kind of hard to describe but I'm telling the truth And I've actually done this with friends that have had vasectomies and just without... I'd look at them and say, you've had a vasectomy right? And the guy said 99% of the time i'm right. If Jadid reads so many titles then he will be betrayed in the future countries John. Ask Bobby!

13:53 There's nothing funnier than making you say stuff in Dutch. Benjif, Donvat, Julie Don, Julie Gin, Doon Fantastisch That... You know your Dutch When you go to Holland, you're getting laid so bad my friend If you just say that What you just said there was great Martin Van Galen In Britain and Lurwin You know, he sends in this donation just to hear you mess it up. It's Martijn van Galenlast. Yeah! Martijn... Van Galenlast. Van Halenlast. Galenlast. Van Halenlast. Galen. Galen. Beneden Leeuwen? Yeah. Geert van Triep. Geert van Triep. Trijb. Trijb. Trijb.

14:47 Fred right here forget it. Yeah, I'm free kids one time get it together man. What's right? Yes, what's right? Yeah there you go nailed it yeah. Oh yeah, yeah nailed it oh yeah awesome Jaron van Arrrr. Uh, okay let's try Jeroen. Joran? Van Aarrr! Just don't be a dick just go Jeroen. Jeroen! There you go van Arrr. Van Arrr. From Schaik. Schaik. Schaik. Schraik. Schaik! Schrike?! No, sch-schike. Schrike! Close enough. Uh, Jaron uh... Hanninga. Okay, Jeroen Huttinga

15:31 You're ruining the hunting. Just don't make fun of it, just try to do it hunting. Hunting. It does no end you putting an N where there is none. Hunting. No, I can get the end in there's a hand in there but you putting the end before that T it's hurting her. Oh who? I say what you're saying okay you're right in winning again. Yeah okay So there's this woman that came on the PBS NewsHour and unfortunately, the NewsHour ballist wonders that they are wouldn't really go after her for not answering any questions whatsoever. She is Lisa Monaco and you can look her up and she just looks like a... Is she hot?

16:17 No. She looks like a person that couldn't get a date if she wanted to and because she's grinched. Oh, now I'm not going to agree with you. You have to see her on video it is different. She is more photogenic than when you actually see her moving. There is a...abreure report dot com has a very flattering picture of her Well, she's not flattering especially after you listen to her talk Wow! I love the one with her in the bra What? No, it's not her. I'm sorry. It has a porn name. She has a porn name. Yeah. Visa Monaco! Here comes Raven! Give it up for Raven!

17:00 John, are you making it rain again? Someone's getting cornhole today. Sounds like a recipe for success to me! John you actually just did a strip bar announcement didn't ya? Yeah Do it agai- I know guys who do that John. I've done it when I was 16 in Amsterdam. Do the uh...do it and I'll play the clip Well, no because it doesn't lead into the clip probably I'll put again on that. I like to get these things out in an ab-lib fashion What you have to do your your welcome to the stage when someone makes it rain Everybody give it up for amber. No, she already did amber How do you know these things straight from recita here she is Raven give it up

17:51 Up next Bambi! Bambi onto the stage. Wow, you do know it okay I'll do Raven then we get and then one come back to you. Straight from Reseda here she is Raven give it up Ladies and gentlemen a big round of applause for that petite hot bombshell Janine as she comes off the stage find her in the private dance rooms where you can live like a king with lap dances on sale That's where your discount coupon and free private dance card available at the bar Buy ten dances get one free now to the main stages Sharona She likes dirt bikes dirty dancing dirty boys, and Star Trek as Sulu would say oh

18:40 Oh my Sharona! Give it up to Sharona. Shirley and Donna, Shirley and Donna will be doing a lesbian act on stage two Bring him up bring him up Jolie and Donna these two hotties can be seen at the club on Wednesday mud wrestling Today and the girls will give you a voucher for free Is that it yeah, then we had someone to forget his wallet in the champagne room I who was it? I forget who it was. Attention ladies and gentlemen, wallet found! Alright John... I don't know you know I'm gonna go shopping I think I'm going to do some Christmas shopping. Ah haven't even started that's this week I'm gonna do Christmas shopping. I did get a good bottle of quality vinegar that they were selling at closeout price yesterday if I felt real good about that. Oh I'm so happy for ya

18:40 Oh my Sharona! Give it up to Sharona. Shirley and Donna, Shirley and Donna will be doing a lesbian act on stage two Bring him up bring him up Jolie and Donna these two hotties can be seen at the club on Wednesday mud wrestling Today and the girls will give you a voucher for free Is that it yeah, then we had someone to forget his wallet in the champagne room I who was it? I forget who it was. Attention ladies and gentlemen, wallet found! Alright John... I don't know you know I'm gonna go shopping I think I'm going to do some Christmas shopping. Ah haven't even started that's this week I'm gonna do Christmas shopping. I did get a good bottle of quality vinegar that they were selling at closeout price yesterday if I felt real good about that. Oh I'm so happy for ya

19:46 You know, what I always like to do is get a good white wine vinegar. I make my own vinegar too but with the stuff that's commercial buy a good white wine vinegar and then you buy a bunch of tarragon and then you take half if it's big enough bunch and shove it in the vinegars leave it there for about three or six months and use that vinegar and its outstanding product. Another culinary tip from John C. Dvorak The thing that's interesting about PG Tips to me and a lot of these other teas, we're talking about Sainsbury's has a nice thing called Red Label which is a competitor. Is that the British when they were colonizing the world they did these long term deals all over the place for things like tea

19:46 You know, what I always like to do is get a good white wine vinegar. I make my own vinegar too but with the stuff that's commercial buy a good white wine vinegar and then you buy a bunch of tarragon and then you take half if it's big enough bunch and shove it in the vinegars leave it there for about three or six months and use that vinegar and its outstanding product. Another culinary tip from John C. Dvorak The thing that's interesting about PG Tips to me and a lot of these other teas, we're talking about Sainsbury's has a nice thing called Red Label which is a competitor. Is that the British when they were colonizing the world they did these long term deals all over the place for things like tea

20:34 So they essentially have, I don't know how long the contract is for the various tea providers. But they get some of the best in the world because they kind of lock down these deals permanently back in the 1800s. Isn't that in some way related to upcoming December 16th when we commemorate the Boston Tea Party? Yeah, the Boston Tea Party is you know there's a if you study enough American history of course this gets pretty peculiar as to why the Boston Tea Party took place but they were trying to shove tea down everybody's throat and they were also stealing it from China and making them take opium. But that was late. That was later. Here boys have some opium give us the tea! One of the guys in the papers in 2000 word... 2000 page document 2000 plus pages is Marvin Minsky

20:34 So they essentially have, I don't know how long the contract is for the various tea providers. But they get some of the best in the world because they kind of lock down these deals permanently back in the 1800s. Isn't that in some way related to upcoming December 16th when we commemorate the Boston Tea Party? Yeah, the Boston Tea Party is you know there's a if you study enough American history of course this gets pretty peculiar as to why the Boston Tea Party took place but they were trying to shove tea down everybody's throat and they were also stealing it from China and making them take opium. But that was late. That was later. Here boys have some opium give us the tea! One of the guys in the papers in 2000 word... 2000 page document 2000 plus pages is Marvin Minsky

21:24 Big shot at the media lab. Major, major guy I remember running into him. In fact he personally threw me out of a meeting. Do tell! We need to hear this... Tell us first who Marvin Minsky is and then how you got kicked out of the meeting One of the famous artificial intelligence guys from the 80s, the first go-round and maybe even the one before. Every 30 years or so this artificial AI... Didn't he kind of write a book on Artificial Intelligence? He wrote A book! At least he published it

22:04 Well, you got me on that. So I got invited as a lark by Will Hurst to go into the media lab with the executives of the Hurst Corporation who were getting a tour where he didn't have to sign in non-disclosure and I was like, Hurst and I were just wondering we're kind of just wandering... We're just in the group there's about one two three four five maybe eight nine people and including the CEO, and Randy Hurst, and all these other people. And we're going through this thing, and we get to see the dog-and-pony show that they put on which is where I found out a number of interesting things that I used later in certain columns because I could. I didn't have to worry about being non disclosed on any of it. So were going from meeting to meeting with these guys who are just full of crap showing us everything in the place got great tour

23:01 Rival comments to make and so we go into this final meeting and there's Minsky in there with the guys ahead at that time whose name is deluding me involved with Wired Magazine. And Minsky sees me, he knows who I am. And he says what's this guy doing here? What's Dvorak doing here?! Pretty much! This guy... and everybody is looking left and right and i'm sitting there with a stupid smile on my face. They asked me to leave Yeah, yeah. So Will actually left with me the two of us left oh that's cool at least it was showing some solidarity from what I could tell and so we left and it was at the end anyway so who cares? And then as you left like shhh that's the mouse guy

23:54 Hey, so there's a restaurant opening up down this you know from the Pacho headquarters if you go down Is it Brian no Brandon good on Brandon to fourth I guess be just a little bit beyond that So, while you were doing this I was spending the day down in Half Moon Bay at the Ritz-Carlton. They're always on conference with a bunch of venture capital guys and didn't get that much out of it but did see a bunch people I needed to see and schmoozed them. The PR woman that runs the Ritz-Carlton there used to be my booker at Tech TV. Your hooker? Booker!

24:33 Yeah. And she used to, and so I know her, you can spend the night, whatever, I never go down there. Cool! Is she hot? She's a nice woman. Okay, all right. Well you sound like one of these guys who is on the forum here? You know she's not she's no I mean it John I say this to you at the office about women as they don't why should I be any different on this show there was the evidence against you anyway so true She's a good-looking woman. I've always liked her. She's very pleasant and a great PR person She's really smart But I didn't know she was a mega foodie Oh Wow

25:10 and so she's starting her own agency, and she is going to do wine & food PR. Well excellent! Excellent because we have a whole fucking channel... But anyway I got the tour, I got to meet the chef when i get that or other place I did all this stuff you know what with that was going on in had a bunch of you know free food down there I don't where this story was gone I had a point to make before he brought up his show. I'm sorry, I am sorry Some years ago, I got irked listening to Carly Fiorina give a speech. And I noticed other women CEOs started to say this phrase and it's the phrase that bugs me and the phrase is by enlarge. By enlarge da-da-da, buy in large. And I could never tell whether it was buy in large or buy and large? What does it mean, buy enlarge?

26:03 So I heard some guy on the TV the other night saying it. One of the politicians says, well by and large blah blah blah... And i'm thinking by and large? By and large what where does this phrase come from and why do people use it and what does it mean and how-and what is it? Is it by AND large? Is it by IN large? It just-I can't tell you how- Doesn't it come from like old English or something? Does it? Well then why are we using it?! Mean I just want to say I actually was gonna bring it up. But I think maybe I mentioned it on test So one of these things that just when I hear it, I just cringe. I don't know why did it annoys me so much It's also probably a phrase that someone is implementing that you know Just to buy some time while they're thinking about what bullshit they're gonna say next by and large That's probably true So let's talk about Star Wars

25:10 and so she's starting her own agency, and she is going to do wine & food PR. Well excellent! Excellent because we have a whole fucking channel... But anyway I got the tour, I got to meet the chef when i get that or other place I did all this stuff you know what with that was going on in had a bunch of you know free food down there I don't where this story was gone I had a point to make before he brought up his show. I'm sorry, I am sorry Some years ago, I got irked listening to Carly Fiorina give a speech. And I noticed other women CEOs started to say this phrase and it's the phrase that bugs me and the phrase is by enlarge. By enlarge da-da-da, buy in large. And I could never tell whether it was buy in large or buy and large? What does it mean, buy enlarge?

26:03 So I heard some guy on the TV the other night saying it. One of the politicians says, well by and large blah blah blah... And i'm thinking by and large? By and large what where does this phrase come from and why do people use it and what does it mean and how-and what is it? Is it by AND large? Is it by IN large? It just-I can't tell you how- Doesn't it come from like old English or something? Does it? Well then why are we using it?! Mean I just want to say I actually was gonna bring it up. But I think maybe I mentioned it on test So one of these things that just when I hear it, I just cringe. I don't know why did it annoys me so much It's also probably a phrase that someone is implementing that you know Just to buy some time while they're thinking about what bullshit they're gonna say next by and large That's probably true So let's talk about Star Wars

26:57 I have not seen Star Wars obviously. This is The Farce Awakens? Is the title of this? The Farse Awakens, it is what I thought it was... Hold on John stop for a second! I think maybe it would be more interesting if the way you review the movie you could convince me to actually go see it You think that's possible? No Well then hold on let me get my beer and then I'll just listen to you It's a foamy one. Sounds more like a soda. Alright, the review of Star Wars The Movie! Alright um... First I've read all the negative reviews before i went to see it To get in the mood Yeah

28:02 And the best review, which I think people should take with them when they go see the movie if they haven't seen it already. It's they're running a lot in this movie They're running and running, and running. There's a lot of running! It's a lot of running. Now wait a minute... Isn't there a hot new girl in the cast? Yeah this is the girl that did that interview I sent you the link to Oh the coke head? The coked up one That one She's cute! Oh she's very cute And she really is a pleasant actress She really is Pleasant She's pleasant, she's good She's not a crappy actress, she's a good actress

28:37 I mean for all you need and that's easy daisy ride Ridley Ridley right and she is very She fits the role should be great. And what role does she play? She plays of the heroine at the damsel in distress somehow princess leia she's not princess she no no leia is in the movie she's now the general and everybody says another thing oh this movie is just about how why we should elect hillary what i just got a what yeah i got a note from one of our knights today or one of our producers who said i saw the movie it's just a promotion for hillary

29:15 So, we discussed it. We had JC his wife Mimi myself Jay were all sitting around afterwards and doing a post-mortem on the movie. Jay the youngest of the group hated it she hated it because it was quote unquote boring I didn't think it was boring Mimi meh She could take it or leave it. She didn't think much of it. I can hardly believe Mimi sat through the whole thing! I'm surprised she went. There you go, she must really love you guys so...

29:54 But it was very, I thought it was entertaining. It was exactly the same as episode four of the original 1977 movie with just a few little twists here and there but it started off the same story. It was a reboot and it was a good reboot. I thought it worked out well and there's not a lot of CG that was For that movie, you'd think there would be more. They still used a lot of models and did it the old-fashioned way And when they blew stuff up they used... Real dynamite? Yeah real dynamite! And it makes a difference It really looks like something's blowing up but doesn't look like these phony things that you see in Transformers or whatever. A lot of CG. And its faster and cheaper apparently to do this way These CG guys are just over the top with their expenses

30:42 the computer guys. Now, the movie itself... I don't know if you want to see it? If you haven't seen them all? No, I have not even seen The Empire Strikes Back. Okay well you shouldn't go. JC said that he He thought it was good because he had already brought himself to the point of maximum disappointment by watching those prequels that they did, which were terrible. And this was so far above that in terms of quality. There are plot holes all over the place there's too much running. They're running and running and running all over the place just constantly I can just, I can just... John C. Dvorak says Too much running! Now out now the force reawakens In fact at one point near the end of the movie Daisy Ridley who plays a woman called Ray

31:30 Who has to try and just snort the the? Laser saber know that she uses cocaine, but if you look at this thing This clip that was an interview of her. She seemed kind of hammered mm-hmm and At the end she suddenly when confronted with something minor She runs she runs out in search of money Just because hey hey we've gone five minutes without any running oh Whoa, whoa. What? You're gonna eat a giant bug on the show? Yeah just to see what it tastes like. Gee what do you have lined up? Well it's a locust deep-fried locust. You want to do right off the bat I don't think I can wait for this Really? I mean give me the background

31:30 Who has to try and just snort the the? Laser saber know that she uses cocaine, but if you look at this thing This clip that was an interview of her. She seemed kind of hammered mm-hmm and At the end she suddenly when confronted with something minor She runs she runs out in search of money Just because hey hey we've gone five minutes without any running oh Whoa, whoa. What? You're gonna eat a giant bug on the show? Yeah just to see what it tastes like. Gee what do you have lined up? Well it's a locust deep-fried locust. You want to do right off the bat I don't think I can wait for this Really? I mean give me the background

32:18 I just got this giant locust to eat? Well, oh no. You know what let's keep it until after the donation segment No you got me going! I just broke the seal No you can't do that It'll get stale Alright tell me in the background where'd you get this thing What was on first Came in the mail under the Eat The Bugs program in the Berkeley area Wait a minute...it came in the mail and your gonna eat it Yeah imma eat right now All right ladies and gentlemen best podcast universe brings you Yeah, it's like boom John C. Dvorak eating a cricket Hmm tastes like poop Alright who sent you that who sent you that bug those are corn nuts oh I mean you should have just now all right nice

33:28 I don't want to fool the public. All right, good you fooled us. It sounded very authentic i'll say Very authentic! I was impressed Talking about the dirty 30s? I got a couple more for you Ah, the dirty thirties yes let's go Okay yeah what do you think all the way means? all the way means going all the way it is a home run round three bases and we're...it's penetration time Chocolate cake or fudge with ice cream. Okey-doke, I'm sorry that changed somewhere along the lines? All wet! All wet?! Yeah all wet yeah he's all wet. All wet means he's out of money No good it means no good Oh he is no good okay Well you're not getting any of these. Amici horn blower The blower The blower? Get him on the blower You already blew it It's a phone I know the blower being a phone yeah Okay Apple

33:28 I don't want to fool the public. All right, good you fooled us. It sounded very authentic i'll say Very authentic! I was impressed Talking about the dirty 30s? I got a couple more for you Ah, the dirty thirties yes let's go Okay yeah what do you think all the way means? all the way means going all the way it is a home run round three bases and we're...it's penetration time Chocolate cake or fudge with ice cream. Okey-doke, I'm sorry that changed somewhere along the lines? All wet! All wet?! Yeah all wet yeah he's all wet. All wet means he's out of money No good it means no good Oh he is no good okay Well you're not getting any of these. Amici horn blower The blower The blower? Get him on the blower You already blew it It's a phone I know the blower being a phone yeah Okay Apple

34:30 Apple, but any big town or city New York being the Big Apple interesting Babe broad death is the terms babe broad Dame doll frail twist muffin and kitten sir Baby that's a baby. Baby is acute sir It's a glass of milk Oh What's a bean shooter a gat a rod a Roscoe a heater a convincer? A weapon of some sort? A gun. Yeah, a gun. A gat! I got a gat. Hey where's your Roscoe bring it. A gat?! Uh...I like- I like Roscoe. Roscoe. Your Roscoe. I'm strapped with my Roscoe bro What's beat? Beat? Beat. Beat is your beat this way you were you walk or your neighborhood your place. It means you're broke Oh you mean a deadbeat that's very broke yeah exactly

35:35 Behind the grind. Behind the grind... is backstage at an MTV show? Behind in one's studies Oh, okay Big house, whose gal? Big house, the big house The boss Whose gal? Whose gal I don't know whose-whose gal Prison! Oh, oh okay Gotcha, the big house Yes, I should have known that one You should've known that one That's 1 against-that's minus 1 Bleed Bleeds? I'm gonna bleed him To cut someone? No, to extort or blackmail. Oh rip them off yeah I'm sucking at this game You totally blow! Get me on the blower No that was the phrase totally blow no Blinkers lamps pies shutters peepers Oh boobs

36:27 She's got great peepers. See I had one! No, it's eyes! Oh please that's about boobs. Shutters? That's about boobs. Shutters? Lamps? Okay lamps yes. Last one and then we'll go on to do this next show ready yeah blow your wig uh to get on the plane as a president It's a good answer, but it means become very excited. Yes I thought us to get very mad, but yeah blow your top or your wig I've heard those 30s We got to get a few of these back in play like Roscoe is good. I like that Yeah, what else give me another one? All right, I'm annoyed that I get this wrong okay you'll get this one booze hooch giggle juice and mule well That's alcohol

37:19 Whiskey and that's right close enough. Yeah, this is a good one you never get this Brody brody You can ask me to use it in the sentence Could you use the word in a sentence please? Hey pulled a brody Wow It's like some massive failure ah Right aha but where does it come from he's a mistake and where does it come from oh I don't know but i always thought, I didn't realize it went back to the 30s because I remember when they used the word Brody and I always thought of referred to the 49ers quarterback in the 50s. Okay. Did he do something really bad? No he just always run around a field like he was being chased by wild dogs. Oh

38:08 And he was known for making quick U-turns. I always thought when they said pull the Brody, I thought that meant just turn around and go the other way. So I was befuddled apparently when I was a kid. One more? One more last one! Okay there's a bunch of them again Bruno's goons hatchet men torpedoes and trigger men yeah well these are foot soldiers of some mob yeah hired gunman or other tough guys how about okay one last day really one more discuss is you need this one bulge bulges in a sentence he's got a bulge oh I'm not a lot of money having an advantage

38:52 Well, that's all men. It was like Battle of the Bulge I guess...I'm not sure. Okay But that well that was in the 40 so they couldn't have been battle of the bulge but it is a lost era Yes, well either I trying to bring some of it back also Oh far we have as much so far We have is Roscoe Roscoe? I love Roscoe yeah And I'd like you to find out where that's from So we're shopping at Tarjay And I'm having trouble, this only happens once in a while. You should have pretty good line karma which is the karma where there's a bunch of people in line and the distances are pretty much equal you pick a line and hope that you get through the line faster than normal. Yes! And I have a racist...I am racist when it comes to this and I'm going to explain that because my wife says your racist My racist comment is

38:52 Well, that's all men. It was like Battle of the Bulge I guess...I'm not sure. Okay But that well that was in the 40 so they couldn't have been battle of the bulge but it is a lost era Yes, well either I trying to bring some of it back also Oh far we have as much so far We have is Roscoe Roscoe? I love Roscoe yeah And I'd like you to find out where that's from So we're shopping at Tarjay And I'm having trouble, this only happens once in a while. You should have pretty good line karma which is the karma where there's a bunch of people in line and the distances are pretty much equal you pick a line and hope that you get through the line faster than normal. Yes! And I have a racist...I am racist when it comes to this and I'm going to explain that because my wife says your racist My racist comment is

39:49 If the checker that's working the register is black, go there. That's very racist of you John. Why? It's very racist. Why is this? What is it- They're fast! They actually do a better job So why are black Americans faster than white Americans I think they just like the competition or something...I don't know. It just always surprises me how much faster they are but they crank and I always compliment them at the end I always, sometimes and you can if you go to a Costco. You can just sit back and watch it. And see one line moving like a son of bitch in one line nothing So again the fast-moving lines always some black guy just cranking away

40:30 And so I always say to them, you're fast. And they always really appreciate the compliment. Oh well I should try that someday but i think you should say You're much faster than them white people! I think you should try that. I'm not doing that. That would really... This happened at Target by the way got in the wrong line with some woman checker, who's obviously a part-timer. And there is this black guy and I don't know why he didn't go into the black guys' line because he just cleared the line and I'm still standing behind this amateur couple of students from University of California obviously A white guy with his Chinese girlfriend Cal student typical Good looking woman by the way she is about 21 and she can use the thing with the credit card

41:12 She said, no, no, I was about to scan it. She's dicking around she's looking what does this mean? He sees pointing push that push that and is taking forever the woman that is a checker she decides again do a long conversation with him that turned the thing around as she says No, you want this so then at the one of these it's a debit card I suppose and she decides to get cash back And we're sitting there waiting his other lines done. I'm waiting wait awaiting. She guess he wants cash back in quarters So she's just doling out, she got a crack in her couple quarters things asking the next guy to check her over if there is enough... You had eight quarters? I mean what quarters?! They're messing with your busy life!

41:54 I cannot believe that they're ruining... You know what? When you get a black checker who does good work, you should tip that person. Here! Here's $1.00. That I'm not doing either. You're much better than Whitey. You're trying to get me in trouble. Yeah, I am trying. I admit it to the moment of racism but I'm not going make it clear to anybody that that is the case In this particular area, there are probably thousands of bald eagles. Oh and you saw them? Oh yeah! Nice They're all over the place they're a pest. Our national bird... Anybody who has been around bald eagles would say the same thing. They're pests. They kill kittens, they grab kittens little puppies. They're always on the lookout for like pets. No not little puppies we should have a

41:12 She said, no, no, I was about to scan it. She's dicking around she's looking what does this mean? He sees pointing push that push that and is taking forever the woman that is a checker she decides again do a long conversation with him that turned the thing around as she says No, you want this so then at the one of these it's a debit card I suppose and she decides to get cash back And we're sitting there waiting his other lines done. I'm waiting wait awaiting. She guess he wants cash back in quarters So she's just doling out, she got a crack in her couple quarters things asking the next guy to check her over if there is enough... You had eight quarters? I mean what quarters?! They're messing with your busy life!

41:54 I cannot believe that they're ruining... You know what? When you get a black checker who does good work, you should tip that person. Here! Here's $1.00. That I'm not doing either. You're much better than Whitey. You're trying to get me in trouble. Yeah, I am trying. I admit it to the moment of racism but I'm not going make it clear to anybody that that is the case In this particular area, there are probably thousands of bald eagles. Oh and you saw them? Oh yeah! Nice They're all over the place they're a pest. Our national bird... Anybody who has been around bald eagles would say the same thing. They're pests. They kill kittens, they grab kittens little puppies. They're always on the lookout for like pets. No not little puppies we should have a

42:45 They are. In the morning to you troubled citizen? I didn't know this about the eagles. They're a horrible animal. You're defacing our national bird. Myth busting, okay. I'm very sad. I don't know what can I say the eagle to go the bald eagle the golden bald Eagle is that's that the Golden Eagles a different animal oh Okay, and they're okay. Oh, I have a gold any well The Bald Eagle is the one that's the real pest it's all the angles are little bit. I had a goal in the goal

43:23 Golden Eagle is freedom, John. How can freedom be a pest? A golden eagle is in... I'm in range of one of the... The golden eagles have like a 500 mile or 50 mile range where they hunt and they come around every once so I have a golden eagle that comes around once in awhile. Yeah for tea. So I'm coming home- For PG tips. So I'm coming home and I hear something in the backyard. And I go up to the door and there's a bunch of seagull feathers all over the deck. Uh oh! What the hell are these seagull feathers doing here? And so I start to step outside and there's a golden eagle sitting in the plum tree. He had eaten an entire seagull! Wow Yeah These things, these eagles are something to behold So he ate this seagull and left just a bunch of crap all over the place It was a mess What does the eagle not eat from the seagull? What does it leave behind? The beak? Oh they eat rodents A lot of rodents

44:22 He ate the whole thing? Everything? Yeah, yeah. I couldn't find anything but a few feathers. Wow! But he's sitting there and he's digesting this thing because he just finished filling himself with these giants...with his big seagull which is good-sized bird and uh...and he looks at me. Gives me a look. I've had an eagle do this too. He looks at me goes what are you want so nice they're in california you were in vegas john Yeah, I went to Lost Wages Nevada. And uh... Yeah did you lose any? No actually I won! I only budgeted..I don't like to gamble it's just stupid. I'm not a gambler either But i do play video poker machines because there are certain machines if you look at all the odds its the funniest thing Video poker machines have a variety of odds for the exact same game from machine to machine

44:22 He ate the whole thing? Everything? Yeah, yeah. I couldn't find anything but a few feathers. Wow! But he's sitting there and he's digesting this thing because he just finished filling himself with these giants...with his big seagull which is good-sized bird and uh...and he looks at me. Gives me a look. I've had an eagle do this too. He looks at me goes what are you want so nice they're in california you were in vegas john Yeah, I went to Lost Wages Nevada. And uh... Yeah did you lose any? No actually I won! I only budgeted..I don't like to gamble it's just stupid. I'm not a gambler either But i do play video poker machines because there are certain machines if you look at all the odds its the funniest thing Video poker machines have a variety of odds for the exact same game from machine to machine

45:19 And I don't know, you know. Nobody ever looks at these odds because there are some machines that essentially just take your money and there are other machines... It's published right? It says it right there! You will lose at least 4% on every dime you put in. That's casino wide but there are some machines that are pretty close to break even on video poker if you know what to look for. The odds are right on the screen and people just ignore it. But you don't have to go to Vegas for that, you could go to your local 7-Eleven and play video poker can't ya? Yeah I could. It's just a game i like because there was this computer program called years ago called Video Poker Tutor. What did that run on the Commodore 64 or something? Close to it but anyway they would keep beating you down until you figured out what the strategy was because video poker is not poker

46:15 It's a you know, it's a different game altogether and there are some their strategies involved with what you hold on what you get rid of if You want to approach this break-even point? And then if you get lucky you can you know walk away with some money and I tend always walk away with some money Although that can't say made a fortune. Is it total earnings five bucks right on So my wife comes down for Thanksgiving she drives down from Washington did she bring animals? Yeah, she brought some animals. She also brought some dry goods from Washington State that you can only get at certain places. Stop! One? Which animals did she bring? She brought a big giant dog and a couple other dogs How many in total? Three Oh okay And what dry goods

46:15 It's a you know, it's a different game altogether and there are some their strategies involved with what you hold on what you get rid of if You want to approach this break-even point? And then if you get lucky you can you know walk away with some money and I tend always walk away with some money Although that can't say made a fortune. Is it total earnings five bucks right on So my wife comes down for Thanksgiving she drives down from Washington did she bring animals? Yeah, she brought some animals. She also brought some dry goods from Washington State that you can only get at certain places. Stop! One? Which animals did she bring? She brought a big giant dog and a couple other dogs How many in total? Three Oh okay And what dry goods

47:06 Stuff you could buy at these special dispensaries in Washington that are now open to the public. That will surely be open to the public here I thought you were sounding a little happy today No, i don't use that stuff and uh... I'd be like man oh the lights coming in um She's so she would listen to 15 hours straight of no agenda, because she hasn't been listening to the show. So she is like going to Paris after you haven't been there for 10 years and you go oh this is ditching things have changed or they haven't changed. Wait a minute did she say hey that shows pretty good let me guess? No she did actually

47:45 But she made some interesting comments that I have not heard. She says the show is snappier, it moves faster. She says there's more inside baseball insides material that we take for granted that is very confusing. Hard for new people to figure out yeah but I told her that, and we had to discuss this because I know that we do this on purpose. I said, well no, we do it on purpose and she always says, I said well no, we do that on purpose. And every time I say that she just goes sure you are yeah, I think he's just evolved But no, we do stuff on purpose. And I said the idea of having our own language calling people Chip instead of their real name and stuff like that... We used to use different names from Puppety Clop for example. She says there's more of that than before and it's very confusing but she says the way you listen is what the hell are they talking about?

48:39 And then something over some, something grounded in the court. The penny drops and all of a sudden it's like oh I see what exactly. Uh huh. And and I said that this is interesting because we used to always have this problem with new listeners where yeah the show was off putting for two or three shows like five years ago. So people just until they heard three shows they didn't like the show at all But the feedback I get now is, I listened once and then I was hooked. And I've had that comment over and over again." Oh yeah you're right! I think it's our comedic stylings that are hooking people. I've got a couple more complaints I forgot... You know I've been wanting to mention this for some time

49:26 You know, they give peanuts out at some of these flights. Yeah Which is probably endangering someone but... I've had many flights where they say sorry no peanuts on this flight because we have someone with severe allergies and you don't get peanuts Well that's good Do you ever sit there? There are habits some people have which is incredibly annoying It's the peanut eaters that take and... Wait a minute Is this about peanut eating etiquette now Yeah. Okay, I'm good. All right, roll it on you're gonna agree with this You'll see how you have seen that I'm worried. I'm worried that I might be one of those people. Um, really hope not So they take they got you know, you gotta bag a little bitty dinky bag of penis It's not enough penis doing is about 17 peanuts in it dump the penis in your mouth. You're good to go No, no That's not the way it works with some of these guys They have to dump two peanuts in their right hand

50:22 They dump a palm full of peanuts, the whole bag or at least half the bag goes in their hands. Then they make a fist. Then they shake! You are describing my old man by the way to a T. He's a dirty peanut eater. They shake their fist and then they create a small opening at the thumb end of the fist, and try to shoot a couple of peanuts into their mouths This is completely wrong way to eat peanuts Well, for one thing it gets peanut grease all over your hand which is you know not necessarily good and salt but the shake shake shaking so they're chewing and shaking chewin' and shaking chewin' and shaking then they throw a couple more peanuts in their mouth and chew some more while shaking and shaking. It just is annoying! It's the most annoying thing I've ever seen. Amen. And when they're done

51:17 They got down to the peanuts, then they start doing the thing with their hands to get all of that salt and grease off their hands. They're slapping themselves! Okay... John? This is exactly how I've seen my father eat peanuts. This is very unusual. No it's not, I don't think its that unusual. What is the correct way to eat peanuts in a plane? There's a lot of ways. You can take the peanut bag and just, if you like tossing the peanuts back, toss from the bag! I always ask the flight attendant to feed me Yeah well they rarely do that...I gave up on that idea Okay...well I'm sorry Meanwhile of course on this flight, I should mention this A number of probably a dozen idiots

51:17 They got down to the peanuts, then they start doing the thing with their hands to get all of that salt and grease off their hands. They're slapping themselves! Okay... John? This is exactly how I've seen my father eat peanuts. This is very unusual. No it's not, I don't think its that unusual. What is the correct way to eat peanuts in a plane? There's a lot of ways. You can take the peanut bag and just, if you like tossing the peanuts back, toss from the bag! I always ask the flight attendant to feed me Yeah well they rarely do that...I gave up on that idea Okay...well I'm sorry Meanwhile of course on this flight, I should mention this A number of probably a dozen idiots

52:06 Or coming down the aisle with this huge backpack. Ah, your favorite yes! The huge backpacks phenomenon. They're bumping left and right they're sl- That and the guy who's got the too wide of a roller bag And he has to instead of picking it up like you should like a normal person He has to roll it so he's dragging the rollerbag banging into things You can't get in these backing up and going forward because the bag is always hitting one of the seats Ugh And this was an old 737. Did someone swing around and hit you in the face with their bag as usual? No, but I almost had it... Almost!

53:02 I think your stories are fantastic. You said on the last week, whatever it was 1200 you said, nah they're boring but your stories are actually a great part of what makes our show so unique Well I'm glad you like my stories because apparently, I can't stop telling them. I don't think i've heard many of them twice well now I have very very seldomly do we repeat a story there's a couple of them in there but It's nice. I mean, I always think of Noah Jenner as you came for the deconstruction but you stayed for the stories particularly John stories they're just good man they're good. People just have this whole show transcribed into a small giblet And there is my book! There are my memoirs ladies and gentlemen well i believe that sir Rupin Waffles who graciously put this together and of course he's an executive producer of this program

53:02 I think your stories are fantastic. You said on the last week, whatever it was 1200 you said, nah they're boring but your stories are actually a great part of what makes our show so unique Well I'm glad you like my stories because apparently, I can't stop telling them. I don't think i've heard many of them twice well now I have very very seldomly do we repeat a story there's a couple of them in there but It's nice. I mean, I always think of Noah Jenner as you came for the deconstruction but you stayed for the stories particularly John stories they're just good man they're good. People just have this whole show transcribed into a small giblet And there is my book! There are my memoirs ladies and gentlemen well i believe that sir Rupin Waffles who graciously put this together and of course he's an executive producer of this program

53:58 That he also has a Adam stories, but that is for another time. This is all about you and of course we do want to continue to Get your involvement and support for the show since yes We'd go ahead so yeah That's why I took this extra break which could break in the middle because we want to mention that you people who have donated For this show will be mentioned on the next show And we'll have a little longer segment And we want to just encourage you to make sure that, you know that we still need continued support. So we thought we'd break in here and at least ask for it. And we'll be back with a live show right after Christmas so Christmas what day is Christmas? Well obviously the 25th.

54:39 No, it's Wednesday. So Thursday which in a lot of the rest of the world is also holiday It's the second day of Christmas Boxing Day in the UK The second Christmas day in the Netherlands. It's a holiday but we will be working for you Yes, we will. And and we'll bring you whatever has been going on in the world Maybe I'll have something from New York that I can share but right now Thank you all for supporting our value for value network all credits will be given on the next program Let's continue now with episode 1201 with the second half of John's story time

55:17 I prefaced in the beginning of the program. I'm doing some archival work, and I want to collect our stories you have been particularly great stories and it's nice if we can kind of put them together, you know, and you had told the story about The proper way to eat nuts on the show on the last show yes Yes Yeah And of course You said this one before so I decide I'm gonna archive it So I'm just going to archive it and we'll put it on our album. A nut story? Yeah, yeah here is so you can listen to it again. Just go for John tell us your peeve about the fisting method of eating snacks on an airplane. I see this on the airplane and its very annoying and I think it will result in fights breaking out because they're just so annoying to watch. Guy takes his bag of peanuts throws a pile into his palm of his hand then he makes a

56:09 around the nuts and then he shakes his fist to try to bring a nut to the little hole. Stop! And then throws a nut in his mouth from his fists, then he does it again he shakes and throws and shakes and throws It is annoying as hell to watch There you go So you actually produced that? I did. This one, I did! So this is again a use of your time that is not necessarily a good use of your time but it's okay if you want to just sit there and ridicule me for my stories. Not ridiculing...I'm making you a legend what are you talking about?! Back to the list. Argentine ants

56:09 around the nuts and then he shakes his fist to try to bring a nut to the little hole. Stop! And then throws a nut in his mouth from his fists, then he does it again he shakes and throws and shakes and throws It is annoying as hell to watch There you go So you actually produced that? I did. This one, I did! So this is again a use of your time that is not necessarily a good use of your time but it's okay if you want to just sit there and ridicule me for my stories. Not ridiculing...I'm making you a legend what are you talking about?! Back to the list. Argentine ants

57:02 Okay, I heard you earlier say you were killing ants so i have to think it's related To you have ants in your pants there's ansel over the place the problem with California of course is we have ants and There are a lot of people that The ants that have taken over california some decades ago are called argentine ants And they're from South America hmm now. They're little guys they don't bite You're not a problem but the weird thing about him Is that? They're a collective and it's the only ant breed that if I'm an ant in hive, in an anthole number 45 five blocks from here. And somebody comes and flushes out the anthole and kills all of ants except me...I can wander over and just join a different group! Oh so they are inter-social?

57:53 Yeah, and so they don't kill each other like a lot of these ants. Oh this ant is not from our group let's kill him Which makes the ants even more annoying? How did they get here if they're Argentine or does that just mean it's just correct no I think you know They either somebody brought them up in an ant farmer where they work their way up If I mean are they destructive do they eat through stuff or they just make a mess oh No, they're like all ants. They clean up the fact that if you get a crumb somewhere they find it and take it with them or there's a drop of oil. If they're in an oily eating mood either in a sugar-eating mood or an oil eating mood depends on time of year but the problem is when you run into what you want to do is have them attack something

58:38 So you leave like a chicken bone out or something in the sink and you hope that they go for it. And then, you let it build long enough so you can see where the heck they're coming in... Yeah Then you take a vacuum cleaner and wipe them all out... And suck em' out! ...and find that spot and spray it. Oh, handy extermination tips from John C. Dvorak! Well it's kind of embarrassing if somebody sees this line of ants but the thing that is interesting is that for some reason over the last few weeks I just have random ants looking around their scouts and I can't figure out where they're coming from They show up and there's an ant on the counter And there he goes...and I smash him and hope maybe another ant sees him smashed and takes back the message that the ants are being smashed Bad place

59:19 don't want to go hang out. You know the shantytown thing did come up in the conversation I'm of the opinion that you're just gonna have to bite the bullet in these towns, these liberal towns and let a shanty town crop up it goes on South America... I don't like your idea I know you don't, nobody does. But it's the most realistic thing you can do is just be honest about it. You have shanty towns in multiple cities in California and it hasn't produced any... Where? There's no real true shantytown Every street corner! No that's not a shantytown Well okay how many- That's just a bunch of people hanging around and y'know hanging out with tents Yeah Okay No no I'm talking about camping

1:00:13 which is what they call it now, homeless camping. Yeah you're not homeless you just camping oh yeah just people camping yeah no I'm talking about you get a couple of acres she put some acres together in an area that's really someplace you can get water to usually a water truck that would work bring in once in awhile and everyone have their own buckets and let them build little lean-tos Well, to have its own government is the way it's like in Brazil and the favelas. They have their own governments... Yeah but that's my point is the favelas are a huge issue

1:00:54 Yeah, also with shantytowns. But this is I don't see any other solution. They can seem to address the problem correctly so you might as well just let it fall into third world style. It works outside of Africa there's all those little towns in Africa there's little shanty towns outside the cities most are they all South America? There used to be Romani encampments all over Europe and similar to a shantytown only they move I mean you can't do anything about it because they're not doing anything about it. Well... Go to a fallback position So what you're saying is designate an area where the shanty town can prosper? You make it sound like its a joke No! That's exactly what your saying A designated place, this is not your idea alone people are saying hey make a designated camping ground Yeah well it should be a shantytown and camping grounds are no good

1:01:54 Those tents are no good. You want a shanty town, you want the kind of thing that people can go and do reports about. Oh look at these people they're living like horrible! And then they show that there's this open sewer? Okay, you have to design these things. Scott Adams has got something like this but he's more... It's not gonna be my thinking. You wanna an open sewer so you can be a guest in the open sewer and a turd going down the sewer it's just open Uh, you want kids that are half naked wandering around. You're all dirty, you know? Suck a good dumb- Barefoot barefoot. Yeah barefoot and then you want- Wait wait playing with the rusty can

1:02:36 Lots of dogs barking at everything. We had a quasi shantytown here in the East Bay over on the Bulb, it was called an old ex-garbage dump that's over by Golden Gate Fields in Albany there was this big area that was in the very far reaches of this is like a peninsula that's built of garbage dumps from the 20s and 30s. So it's green now, they got trees and everything's growing on it but there was huge shantytown out there a genuine one you couldn't even go out to it because there's too many pit bulls, you know guarding the place but it was a shanty town and they let it go for years and years. And they finally went in the middle of the night tore down we'll go back what else we need in this shantytown I was kind of enjoying it we were at barefoot children playing with their open sewers lot of lean-to is another worst people into his yes yesterday left over gal you know that's the kinda something you make for

1:03:38 It's kind of a galvanized, corrugated steel. Mmm yes very good. Chunks of that and corrugated fiberglass that just got this little curvy thing in it is pounded in... And you always need to have a boat trailer with half a boat on it? Oh there's definitely a bunch of boat trailers with half the boats people living in the boats. Open fires burn barrels everywhere especially in the winter During the era of Microsoft, before they moved to Redmond. I think it was Bellevue where Burger Master is and I think Burger Masters going out of business anyway this was told me by the guy who wrote Hard Drive. The original Bill Gates

1:03:38 It's kind of a galvanized, corrugated steel. Mmm yes very good. Chunks of that and corrugated fiberglass that just got this little curvy thing in it is pounded in... And you always need to have a boat trailer with half a boat on it? Oh there's definitely a bunch of boat trailers with half the boats people living in the boats. Open fires burn barrels everywhere especially in the winter During the era of Microsoft, before they moved to Redmond. I think it was Bellevue where Burger Master is and I think Burger Masters going out of business anyway this was told me by the guy who wrote Hard Drive. The original Bill Gates

1:04:25 The book on Bill Gates is a reporter for the Seattle Times. And I had a long chat with him, uh...for some other circumstance and we started talking about the book and the stuff that he left out. Mmm! So he gave me a number of interesting stories that they wouldn't let him run or couldn't run or didn't have enough backup for it or wasn't you know... A Vanity Fair type job? Yeah, I don't know what to put in that term. This is the normal... this is the way it works you don't get everything in that you want and some stuff gets left out and then you end up talking about on a phone with me. On podcasts? On podcasts! So you ended finding out about it so supposedly now this is all alleged Microsoft had an account they were big with hookers in the early days

1:05:17 to the point where they had an account with some... this is in the era when there was a lot of hookers and they had an account at, uh.. I would say what this era was probably... I'm trying put years on it. I'm gonna say it's probably early 80s Bush presidency when they were still in Bellevue is all I can say for sure. All right, and They had a just an open account And it and this is when Microsoft everyone had their own private offices Everybody at a private office of Microsoft's we visited the campus In the early days there was nobody It wasn't one of these open-air things or where everyone felt like a drone? It was everyone has every code everyone who works there wherever you did yet a private officer close the door unlock it

1:06:03 And you could have a bed in there if you wanted to, if you want to spend the night. Because a lot of coders like to do that they just stay there and that was very common in the early days So they had an open account with a whorehouse and it was just, you'd go on to the bill. I don't know what they paid in cash? I have no idea how they wrote this off but any coder that was lonely could get some girl to come over and keep them at the place coding. Wow! What a great place to work Yeah but it had to be dynamite that's where he could take your cut-and-pay to work there

1:06:41 There are benefits that are a little more than the free lunch at Google. And I was, allegedly according to the source again, the writer he says that Bill's Bill Gates' hooker was actually the madam of the place Why is there no book about this? The Hidden Secrets Of Silicon Valley and Hookers I'm reminded of a story. It says, you know in California lot of us eat a lot hot chilies and although not necessarily as much is some of us do who are really kind addicted to the chili and then...and i am quite comfortable with the hottest imaginable food except some places in India has served food that is excruciating maybe too much for me but so I mean Brazil. Well your professional John let's just be honest I mean lets just call a spade a spade

1:06:41 There are benefits that are a little more than the free lunch at Google. And I was, allegedly according to the source again, the writer he says that Bill's Bill Gates' hooker was actually the madam of the place Why is there no book about this? The Hidden Secrets Of Silicon Valley and Hookers I'm reminded of a story. It says, you know in California lot of us eat a lot hot chilies and although not necessarily as much is some of us do who are really kind addicted to the chili and then...and i am quite comfortable with the hottest imaginable food except some places in India has served food that is excruciating maybe too much for me but so I mean Brazil. Well your professional John let's just be honest I mean lets just call a spade a spade

1:07:43 Doing what? You're a professional sooty. Yeah I'm a foodie, yeah. So anyway so by the way to think about chilies for people out there who want to say what's the big kick? Well besides you get a little endorphin hit The real kick of chilies is it actually changes because it burns out certain taste buds for short term It changes the flavor profile foods and the food tastes differently and sometimes its meant to taste that differently way For you to fully appreciate so i'm in brazil with it where they really like hot chilies but not that many people actually in brazil eat them but then there's their all over the place and when i go to these trash careers which are these brazilian barbecue places which are all over the world now uh... but any of my side of brazilian ever have this chili sauces day usually in brazil you go to one of these places where they have his barbecued meats on a sword they bring out need us for this piece of that peace uh... they have like this they have is hot

1:08:43 just some scotch bonnets and these really little bitty, really dinky little peppers that are extremely hot. And you eat those first before you get to the meat? The peppers are usually soaked in a vinegar or vinegar oil mixture and it's that mixture of the oil and vinegar you put on the meat You don't ever eat the peppers Generally It's just a really kind of version of a hot sauce and it can be extremely hot Anyway, so I'm in Brazil and this guy's in Rio actually at a little barbecue place right on the beach. And the guy says... This guy is another journalist and he challenges me to these peppers thinking that I am some sort of wimp from the United States who doesn't know anything about peppers!

1:09:30 So I say, he says did you ever have these peppers? And so I said yeah those peppers are pretty hot and they're pretty nice. He says would you ever eat one of the peppers? What kind of a child was this guy? I know he's just a jerk. A typical journalist. Anyway so... I said, yeah, I'll eat one if you eat one. Here we go! How mature!" So he says okay and so I took one of the peppers and chewed it up and swallowed it and then it was hot but it wasn't intolerably hot. There's many a pepper hotter than anything

1:10:07 And he says, you want to have another one? I said do you want another one because he put one in his mouth. He says sure and so we took another one, chewed it up and swallowed it and that was kind of the end for about five or six minutes then all of a sudden out of the blue this guy turns beet red. And starts projectile vomiting Well, he doesn't do that but that's a funny punchline. But anyway so he turns beet red and he is like dying sweating, he is drinking water and I said what happened? He says well I saw you...I didn't eat the peppers! I just put them in my mouth and kind of saved them there. Oh no!

1:10:48 And then he says, and then when I saw that you ate them and swallowed them with no problem. Then I decided they can't be that hot. So anyway, this is a personal there's one of those anecdotes show the audience that even showing how the immature adults can be Yeah, well what that mean I don't know you know this is a we did this happen. I think the real trend there I'm Reminded of the days when I was working for MSNBC on a show that they'd established when Microsoft first bought the company Or I mean first formed the company with NBC's That's what Ms stands for a lot of people it's long since forgotten means no I remember I was there and so they started this thing up And then they wanted to do because Microsoft wasn't all they want to some text us So they did this this this show called The Site

1:10:48 And then he says, and then when I saw that you ate them and swallowed them with no problem. Then I decided they can't be that hot. So anyway, this is a personal there's one of those anecdotes show the audience that even showing how the immature adults can be Yeah, well what that mean I don't know you know this is a we did this happen. I think the real trend there I'm Reminded of the days when I was working for MSNBC on a show that they'd established when Microsoft first bought the company Or I mean first formed the company with NBC's That's what Ms stands for a lot of people it's long since forgotten means no I remember I was there and so they started this thing up And then they wanted to do because Microsoft wasn't all they want to some text us So they did this this this show called The Site

1:11:43 And the site starred Soledad O'Brien and she was on the Fast Track to become a NBC News anchor. So they gave her this gig so she could do like, do a little practice Although she eventually she got sidelined by some other ethnic looking woman And ended up having I think she went to CNN or something like that But so that was really a nice one of the nicest people have ever met. So hopefully she'll uh, she'll get back on the fast track I don't know why they took her off of it but it happens all the time not not to change this subject but we have a woman here in KPIX who used to be network and at CBS named Dana King. And I saw her when she was doing some of her network stuff and she had like big time news personality written all over her, She apparently did something amiss and then they gave her the signer to the local owned-and-operated affiliate, it's you know the KPIX station as a news anchor here is kind of punishment and has been stuck ever since now don't think she can never break away

1:12:47 uh... but she was like you know this is richard they were the show business thing is is that disconcerting but back to the msnbc story So anyway, they had this show that they developed because Microsoft's pushing them called the site and it had sold as a Anchor and I did some work on there and Leela port has a segment We did some debates and it's the same. You know usual suspect you guys are such media whores. She'll do anything Why well, you know they were paying us? Okay anyways Unlike unlike prostitutes they were paying you Well, then you made a good point Anyway, so yeah, I know it's like what's the difference is

1:13:24 So anyway, Diana got killed as you recall. Princess Diana and they started covering it 24-7 with pretty meaningless coverage on MSNBC and their ratings went through the roof. Sure of course they did! And so they killed the site, and they killed every other thing that wasn't like celebrity butt-kissing or whatever you want to call it kind of programming. And of course the place was never recovered because you can't keep covering Diana forever. They tried and went right back into the dumper that it was in to begin with. Meanwhile they threw away any possible interesting properties that they had started

1:14:08 Anyway, this kind of decision making at this kind of level has always been disconcerting to me. I have to call back though your idea of the homelessness experience in Disneyland is... This isn't an exit strategy! I think we could create this ride now do you sit in the ride or do you? I think you should also experience for a brief moment stepping into human feces I don't know if the homeless are always stepping in human feces. I guess some of that are really down and out, staggering down the street all leaned over... No no! Is the ride- Are you going to actually experience it? Like uh so is it a ride? If it's like I think the most enjoyable Disney rides are in a cart You know and you got your music going on yeah like yes well okay there's two ways of going about this I'm a huge connoisseur of these things here we go

1:15:07 There's one is you're in the little car, a little thing and it's going through a homeless encampment. People are all animatronic. That's like Pirates of the Caribbean Yeah exactly like Pirates of the Caribbean only maybe could be in kind of a river of pee You know, if you're into kind of stinky pee that would be okay. But I think generally speaking it'd be better on rails and you go through these things and see all these different people And then they have...you know people...do you have...you go through the section where there's a bunch of politicians trying to come up with good solutions and they finally say we just need more housing! And then you come out at the other end of it and feel real good about yourself Now you understand. You understand them. Now you have evolved

1:15:50 That's why the other one which is the cheaper way to go. Is you put where you wear some VR glasses or you're in a VR situation that you experienced all day only now it's even more realistic not because it's not animatronics, it's not the pies, dummies and things like Pirates of the Caribbean is the actual videos that you see surrounded by the real stench and feels and fans blowing the smell of crap in your face Yo, and you go through the whole thing and your come out the other end pretty much with the same message But it's just a cheaper way to do the ride Less maintenance. I personally like the Pirates of the Caribbean version. I like that a little better

1:16:34 I think it's more fun. I always like those rides better than the ones that are closed. Yeah, because you go through City Hall where the council members are all sitting there pontificating then you could do and here is Los Angeles and here is Austin... You could have a couple show some differences? Oh yeah! Right? Yeah, you could take your car to one place or another and then guys begging for money in different ways Along the ride people keep coming up to your cart asking for money. Yeah We're going to hell for this The other thing I wanted to say is that you know one of the movies? I was wanting people to see and we could talk about at some point because if we were talking about comics, and it was the movie best-of show which is a hilarious movie but it has a guy in it named Fred Willard and

1:17:25 and Fred Willard who's done some of the finest, most inventive comedy. I don't know how old this guy is but he must be 90 even though he doesn't look that old because when i was in high school which was a while ago I saw this guy when he was at comic team called Willard & Greco uh... and I saw him at The Hungry Eye in San Francisco and he was hilarious then and uh... since then he's a he was also the guy who was the sidekick on fernwood tonight with martin mall and one of his unity is kiss type of humor is epitomized by this particular joke which i'll try to explain which is the two of our sit-near city firm would tonight was a uh... but but fake talk show that was mocking you know talk show genre and malton part more was like the johnny carson in uh... willard was that was the psychic

1:18:18 and they'd be getting into some discussion. Will or will not the blue make these strange comments? which by the way is what I have Sebastian Rupley on Cranky Geeks fashioned after. He makes these strange comments, he says you know i don't know why they've got these ramps on... Why do they put these ramps all the sidewalks just so skateboarders can go zooming up and down almost knocking over it's ridiculous that they'd do something like this! And then Martin Mulgold says those ramps are for the handicapped and without missing a beat, Fred Willard says that's bull I've never seen a handicapped guy on a skateboard. Whatever the case i'm on the Comcast connection today well that's good because im on my iPhone connection today yeah it's kind of interesting you have to go through...I just want to test if the comcasting falls apart which I don't think will but might what did they do? Did they have to come out to your... I can switch back easily but finally a guy came out Corey

1:18:18 and they'd be getting into some discussion. Will or will not the blue make these strange comments? which by the way is what I have Sebastian Rupley on Cranky Geeks fashioned after. He makes these strange comments, he says you know i don't know why they've got these ramps on... Why do they put these ramps all the sidewalks just so skateboarders can go zooming up and down almost knocking over it's ridiculous that they'd do something like this! And then Martin Mulgold says those ramps are for the handicapped and without missing a beat, Fred Willard says that's bull I've never seen a handicapped guy on a skateboard. Whatever the case i'm on the Comcast connection today well that's good because im on my iPhone connection today yeah it's kind of interesting you have to go through...I just want to test if the comcasting falls apart which I don't think will but might what did they do? Did they have to come out to your... I can switch back easily but finally a guy came out Corey

1:19:20 Uh, who found the problem that I was having for the last two years. Let me guess it was a physical wire problem outside? Yes squirrels. Ha ha ha! Squirrels?! Really!? These fuckers are worse than ISIS So the squirrel ate a hole in the case you could just barely see, luckily he didn't eat through the middle of that copper in the middle but he had all insulation off the coax and this one guy who kept monitoring says you got signaling problems. So I will reboot to reboot the modem. It's your fault! You stupid user you

1:20:02 Yes, I'm wrong in this so it's not only that but it was the line was also kinked and then to top things off The actual coax they were using was the wrong grade Wow, okay. There wasn't waiting there's a fourth wait. There's another one is that? What does the wrong grade? Yeah, I think it's called RG 59 it should be rg6 You should look up your coaxes because you may have the wrong grade. Wow! Because in the old grade, which is the one that was coming in the house it's not suitable for high speed even though this whole thing was wired from the get-go for high speed

1:20:38 Anyway, so there was that and then there was another item besides that. This is the only guy this Corey is the only guy who actually did anything The other guys come in and they are you need a new modem? You know what this is, you know what this is is You once wrote an article how cable modems would never amount to anything And at the time you were right and but these guys didn't forget that you see well Maybe when there it is that there was one more item which was that the line was too hot And so he had to put a little like, a choke or some sort of little... Because what actually happens is you can get a feedback loop I think. Yeah so it was way over the voltage it was just too hot and so yeah they attenuated with this little screw-on thing Oh metric! Metric! Get used to an A4 paper! I want to say something here and now

1:20:38 Anyway, so there was that and then there was another item besides that. This is the only guy this Corey is the only guy who actually did anything The other guys come in and they are you need a new modem? You know what this is, you know what this is is You once wrote an article how cable modems would never amount to anything And at the time you were right and but these guys didn't forget that you see well Maybe when there it is that there was one more item which was that the line was too hot And so he had to put a little like, a choke or some sort of little... Because what actually happens is you can get a feedback loop I think. Yeah so it was way over the voltage it was just too hot and so yeah they attenuated with this little screw-on thing Oh metric! Metric! Get used to an A4 paper! I want to say something here and now

1:21:29 A4 paper is ugly. It's the wrong proportions when you look at a four-paper, it's too long and skinny it looks creepy. It's not visually exciting. It's horrible and all the metric crap. A4 papers are worst example It just looks, it just feels and looks. It's unpleasant let's put it that way. Um okay So I feel the same way about putting the 20140507 kind of thing now. Forget it. A4 paper is not

1:22:10 It's not a Fibonacci ratio, it's not a golden ratio. That's the problem I have with it. No that is the biggest problem! What does the US... what do we have in... 8 1⁄2 by 11 inches. What? 8 and a half inches by eleven inches Yeah well what is the format called? It's called letter. That's what its called! Alright So now that we have started an international incident regarding the A4 size paper. I know there's gonna be a bunch of these guys who listen to this show to hate us and they're going to, eww you waste six feet inches is stupid! A lot of people taking exception speaking of printing to your rant against A4

1:22:57 Yeah, oh yeah. There's at least a half dozen people that get all upset. Half the people who emailed you not the ones that emailed me as per usual. Eww! A4 is tall and thin like Adam not fat and chubby like John That's objective I had a thought the other night, you know where a lot of people still probably don't know the history of slavery and that it was the Republican Party Abraham Lincoln in particular leader of the country at the time who you know they the Republican who said we got to stop slavery. And the Democrats... Well did the Republican Party came out of the abolitionist movement? Yes thank you that's even better

1:22:57 Yeah, oh yeah. There's at least a half dozen people that get all upset. Half the people who emailed you not the ones that emailed me as per usual. Eww! A4 is tall and thin like Adam not fat and chubby like John That's objective I had a thought the other night, you know where a lot of people still probably don't know the history of slavery and that it was the Republican Party Abraham Lincoln in particular leader of the country at the time who you know they the Republican who said we got to stop slavery. And the Democrats... Well did the Republican Party came out of the abolitionist movement? Yes thank you that's even better

1:23:46 And so Republicans were the abolitionists, Democrats were the racist slave-holding a-holes. Yes. Okay now somewhere along the line that switched and Republicans... Lyndon Johnson it's believed Okay, I'll finish the sentence. So somewhere along the line that switched and then all of a sudden Democrats became the high and mighty's and Republicans became the misogynistic racist anti-semitic horrible people? Yeah You said this came out of LBJ That's the thought. Yeah, LBJ made a... had some recordings actually where he said that we can have the- Wasn't this the Nixon Southern strategy? Wasn't that part of it? No, that was taking advantage of what LBJ was doing. Ah. LBJ with his war on poverty decided that he could set up

1:24:37 He believed he was setting up a system that would make the blacks vote Democratic for the next 1,000 years. And there's some recording of him talking about this and when that happened the Republicans who were kind of screwed because they're doing this switcheroo and so they went to the Southern strategy to pull all these Democrats that were down there who are racists the Dixiecrats that make them Republicans through code words and the like, supposedly. And now I think the Republicans are pulling another quick one to get the working class to be Republicans. Well, I think that's been happening for a number of years. It has to because the Democrats have gone toward the yuppies and they've been the white collar workers. They hang out with the bankers in their Wall Street oriented and they don't give a crap about the workers or they just

1:25:29 coasting on the union support. And so that is easy enough to steal, and so I think Republicans are... Trump's the only one who noticed he could do this and he's the one who did it. Now the Republicans are thinking about maybe making this switch. The irony to this because I've thought about this with the Republicans switching over or they're, I'm sorry, their working class lower middle-middle and so on switching to be all Republicans. This makes me think that Norman Lear And here's a very interesting irony. All in the family show had Archie Bunker as a working class guy, probably union guy who was a Republican and which made zero sense especially during that era because there wasn't a guy like that my family was this way My dad was kind of an Archie Bunker type character not in the racist way but just he is working class died-in-the-wool Democrat you know always gonna vote party line

1:26:27 And that's the way all these people were. But somehow Lear decided to make him a Republican, that way he could he could make the connection that Republicans are racist and xenophobes and all the rest of it which has been drummed into the Democrats heads because Archie Bunker was but there is no such guy as Archie Bunker they never existed there was no Republican working guy like Archie Bunker who is bull crap so I would say that that's where the switch happened Well, that's where the switch may have begun. Because it was like you're watching this guy... I think it was a mistake because you're watching this guy and some were just working class guys watching comedies going huh? Why can't he think like that too? This is a guy's bonehead meat head whatever his nickname was for the kid who was just a tub-thumping radical

1:27:15 And, you know, check out the Republicans. The Republicans were never open to it until now and now I think they're going to steal that entire part of the election. So that is exactly where i was going as it feels like with this election people will eventually wake up because you can't keep going on in your in this loop of hallucination forever. No! People wake up and say hold on a second the Democrats are racist I feel there's a crossover here. We won't notice this for years probably, but I believe this is the cross, the turning point. It could be! But when you have that clip you played of that bigoted comedy writer going on and on with hate speech... You have to start thinking to yourself wait a minute

1:28:03 How can you be, you know... You're pointing the finger but you are exhibiting all these qualities. You're complaining about it reminds me of that Dutch saying... Ja, wat je zegt bent jezelf met je kop door de helft. Exactly! You are what you say you will you know? You are what you say they are Yeah, this is worse. What I was going to say... This is worse! Worse! I tell you. It's worse than a native ad. It's the pits. The pits are really bad. We on the other hand- In fact, The New York Times is in on this somehow because there's no way that people are flocking to a taco podcast done by Taco Bell or whoever the sponsor is

1:28:50 Well, they say that... Let's talk a little bit about the shell. Bill! We got Bill in here from the Shell Manufacturing Facility outside of Nashville. The Taco Shell makers. Bill? Howdy. Bill, introduce yourself. Yeah, well I'm... Tell us what you do at the Taco Manufacturing... Taco Shell Company I thought, you know. I thought i was gonna be Bill you played both roles No your bill okay im gonna interview you ill interview ya Bill I got Bill here from the taco manufacturer Hi Bill how are you doing? Im good We got Bill on Skype. Yeah, I'm sorry Bill so how long you been doing this taco shells bill? Well first of all thanks for having me on the shell cast. I really enjoy talking about the different kinds of taco shells that are out there So far we found that the one that looks like a quesadilla stuck together where you can't see what's inside seems to work best for our tacos

1:29:50 Well that's not the way Taco Bell taco is Bill. Are you sure? Do you actually work for Taco Bell or are you just a generic shell maker that Taco Bell buys from your contractor? Oh I'm no- hey! This is the Shellcast, I got all kinds of shells big shells small shells I got wacky shells zany shells they've got colored shells got hard shells soft shells...I got shells So do you, who's the inventor? I was very fascinated by this by the way. Who is the inventor? I think El Paso makes these and that the shell has got like a bottom so it goes down as hard shell and it's got a bottom that's about an inch wide and then it comes up on the other side so we can actually stand up to shell. Yeah yeah! Is that patented? I think we should stop while we're ahead

1:30:39 It's the Dirty 30! That's right everybody, from perfect penmanship to the dirty 30. John C Devorah goes back in time and tells us all of the cool phrases that we heard back in the thirties. Hey you got that voice down? Yeah yeah I'm famous for it. And only works in music I can't do without music. Yeah because you get into the rhythm mm-hmm that's pretty good uh yeah like that voice Okay, we were at Cadillac. I believe which is the last term on this page. Yes that was a Cadillac Cadillac Cadillac I don't remember. I don't recall what Cadillac was one ounce pack of cocaine or heroin ah yes How could I forget we had canary and then cats are alligators? We got that cave we got that okay here. We go This new check or checker cab no $1

1:31:34 Ooh, okay. Hey give me a checker. Give me a checker? Huh! I wonder what the etymology of that is...checker..a check. I have no idea it might be worth looking into. Here's one you might be able to guess A Chicago overcoat Uh, I know Chicago boots because Chicago boots is when they throw in the river way down It has to do something with gangsters killing ya Ah, it means a coffin So your are close Yeah Okay good A Chicago typewriter. A Chicago typewriter? Yeah I give up! A Thompson submachine gun Of course, i could have known that one Yes, I've heard the reference a typewriter yeah And it's also... The synonyms are chopper and gat Yeah, gatling, gatling gun, a gat Okay, a chisel Chin The guy is a chiseler I don't know

1:32:39 Swindler a cheat and it works at an angle. Mm-hmm Okay, here's one of my favorites cinder dick Cinder dick I'm writing down as a possible show title regardless Cinder Dick can use that a cinder dick in a sentence Hey Let's get out of these boxcars before the cinder dick comes along So that's the conductor or the police the railroad police Railroad detective there you go Alright a couple more and then we'll close the segment dog soup dog soup innocent sometime sometimes known as city juice I'm gonna pass. Hey Mabel, give me a glass of that city juice our water gotcha clam bake

1:33:38 Has something to do with lesbians, but I'm not sure. No it's a wild swing nice try. A clip joint. Clip joint? Yeah. Hmm...a whorehouse? A nightclub or gambling joint where patrons get flimflammed. And now I need flimflammed! Flimflammed. Copper. A policeman Yes. Crumb. Small-time criminal A fink or a loser by social standards. I think you're... I can have half of the point. No, no, I think you got full point. Oh okay thank you. Crust! Crust? Well, of course that I immediately get a pie crust in mind. Crust. No, John- It means to insult. Oh, to diss! Gotcha. Yeah, on my bell. So crust, diss, discrust, yeah. Curve.

1:34:45 Yeah, and I think you need the context. Boy that threw me a curve unexpected Event disappointment Oh disappointment okay? Yeah, I don't know why this is on here But I'll read it doesn't be our last one Cute as a bug's ear means very cute let me do another one that was that's not really good one no a cement mixer Cement mixer. Maybe that's the guy who kills the guy? No, a cement mixer is slang for a bad dancer. Oh okay... That's not the best one I always want something i can use in modern life. We have detectives next which are Dick Shamus Gumshoe and Flatfoot Those I think are still in play. I'm gonna use cinder dick just for everything

1:35:39 You know, it's not a dirty 30 but someone sent me a term that I've used that we use in the 70s which i liked synonymous for television the boob tube. Yeah the boob tube! I think that still in play Really? yeah hmm I think so you know I did have column and PC magazine sometime in the 90s I recall because I was kind of annoyed by the word nerd. Okay, and so and no one had ever done an entomology of the word And yeah, they did but they were all lame and they're all guessing it was almost like you know that again The 12 year old saying I think it came from here. I think he came from there right? Yeah, and they were getting it from nair do well Which made no sense to me whatsoever So I started doing as much research as I could and I finally tracked it down and then I checked with

1:36:33 with Dr. Seuss from the White House literally and it came from a 1950s book if I ran the zoo that's the first use of the word nerd and no, I could find no pre-dating since night from 1950 I couldn't find anything in the 40s 30s have anyone ever using the word it began usage with this character And there was a little bitty nerdy looking guy So it made nothing but sense to me that this was with the etymology. So it's a made up word, made up by Dr Seuss? Yeah! Cool! Yeah so its made up by Dr Seuss as a nerd and I confirmed it with Seuss and his assistant and Geises is his name, can't remember his first name, the writer And he was pretty old then

1:37:22 He made it up and he didn't realize that it was the formation of the word nerd. I wrote all this history out, so then... So I thought it was kind of cool that I found out the origins of this word and then the kicker to the story is I went to Universal Studios Park in Orlando and they had a If I Ran The Zoo exhibit. The nerd was not in it. And so you complained bitterly, no doubt? Well it just seems to me that of all the things and then this modern age that you'd want in this exhibit... You weren't the nerd! Of course! Yeah. One time I was at a party um I won't say whose place but one of these guys uh actually think it was the CEO's of Intuit and there is big mansion

1:37:22 He made it up and he didn't realize that it was the formation of the word nerd. I wrote all this history out, so then... So I thought it was kind of cool that I found out the origins of this word and then the kicker to the story is I went to Universal Studios Park in Orlando and they had a If I Ran The Zoo exhibit. The nerd was not in it. And so you complained bitterly, no doubt? Well it just seems to me that of all the things and then this modern age that you'd want in this exhibit... You weren't the nerd! Of course! Yeah. One time I was at a party um I won't say whose place but one of these guys uh actually think it was the CEO's of Intuit and there is big mansion

1:38:16 Scott. And so there's this party there and I was in one of the rooms talking to somebody, and there is this one very cynical guy making me look like a normal guy. We're talking about well you know, I was actually promoting the valley thing as a way that a lot of ideas are generated. I don't know why it was up tempo. You were smoking the dope? I was not smoking anything. In fact, it wasn't even drinking much maybe that's the problem but anyway whatever the case this guy says what are you talking about? He says this whole thing is just a big scam all these guys are just a bunch of salesmen selling crap to the public there's nothing to its shallow its just making money for making money sake and he went on and on and I walked away going you know what he's right

1:39:09 so anyway there's a very interesting story in the u s that people should find anything we have a thing on the blog called the police state news bulletin and uh... this is more interesting what this is the most interesting one recently it looks like um... In a park in Columbus, Ohio the police decided to take one of their officers and strip her naked. And she was... they put her in the park to see what kind of perverts they could lure. Is there picture? There's kind of blurry picture you can see but it is nothing. She looks like just a naked girl in the park, you know that before I'm getting the Berkeley area. I mean this is like a I don't know how they do it here But anyway so they used to have these naked sit-ins in Berkeley if they still do them

1:39:57 it's horrible by the way it's like something you don't ever want to see inside. It's just a lot of naked misshapen people and you're just shaking, you cringe... Actually I... You get into your like have you had the shakes for about a week after you've witnessed this? Anyway so um this woman uh who was there some guy who happened to be a firefighter goes over there and he says you know is well make a girl in the park that was interesting so those are research chatting with her Then she starts, you know doing everything short of fondling and she puts her legs on him And she's you know flirting and she tells us. She you know says well So what do you got inside there big boy kind of thing? And so he? himself Was their camera I mean was this like a reality show they have to think yeah No wasn't a reality show that was it wasn't that crazy, you know NBC thing Yeah But it was simple

1:40:49 But they do have it videoed and it's available, you can link to it from the original site. So they arrest this guy for being a pervert because he obviously must be... if you're heterosexual male attracted to a naked girl, you are obviously a pervert! And so they found him and he is a firefighter which too bad. And so they went, but they found him guilty and they couldn't do anything about the entrapment laws or anything like that and some people on my blog pointed out that some of the entrapment laws have actually been circumvented by new legislation that's been slipped in where it is legal to do anything. Oh, of course! So...and meanwhile

1:41:33 stories on top of the story that's even more ludicrous which is to it into tops uh... there at you'd still patrol the subway s system are leaving objects laying around like a wallet or an ipod and if somebody picks one of these things up boom you get jim doesn't You get it for whatever. I'm not even sure what the crime is, but they figure it's a crime and so they've arrested over 300 citizens who just pick stuff up even though in New York there's a law that says if you find something valuable you have 10 days to turn it in They don't care. So they just rest of them anyway because this one way to get your numbers out Big news came out

1:42:17 As we kind of expected, Amazon has part... well we're not gonna say Amazon. We'll say Doorbell Camera Company Ring owned by Amazon has partnered with 400 police forces across the United States granting them potential access to homeowners camera footage and a powerful role in what the community calls The Nation's New Neighborhood Watch The partnership allows police to automatically request video recorded by homeowners cameras within a specific time and area, helping officers see footage from the company's millions of internet-connected cameras installed nationwide. I just want to read that again...

1:43:04 helping officers see footage from the company's millions of internet connected cameras installed nationwide. Now, you're the company's customers but okay they're yours I guess probably in the EULA. Officers will not receive ongoing or live video access and homeowners can decline their requests which Ring sends via email And I have a feeling that if you don't respond, they just do it anyway and why the hell wouldn't they allow access regardless of what you say? This is so bad. We have created a security state in our own neighborhoods Everybody on my street has them You cannot walk on my street without someone seeing ya

1:43:53 You must obey. That's exactly what it is I find this very disturbing and... ...I don't know what to do you can't vandalize them because everyone sees you walking up so i don't know what, Is there any thinking on how we can? You can vandalize them! Yeah but I don't want to be caught vandalizing No here's how you do it Little tip for any vandals out there probably have a few few listeners who are or vandals you know humorous ones You put a ski mask on, run out of your house as fast as you can. But first of all, you block-put a piece of wood or something in front of your own ring

1:44:31 And then it's like oh, I didn't know is there wait hold on you're going too fast. I gotta take notes Hold on okay put block of wood would Would yes would put a ski mask on grab a spray can of Do I need a rope? For this as well just to spray can a black and a MAGA hat use rust-oleum paint because it's got some chemicals in there that might Scratch up the lens. Yeah, and then run over to your neighbors and spray them thing as fast as you can making sure that you're not being You can't be seen from other ring doorbells good leaving your own house If you can make sure of that then you can do it No The whole street is well we're on a cul-de-sac so were blanketed all the way around I don't think you could see your porch from another house

1:45:24 The minute you get on the street everybody can see you so the minute. You walk out your driveway Everybody can see me in this configuration when we're gonna call dis act that's that's where we live, so I don't like your idea I wish there was something I wish I could can you destroy him with a laser? You know kind of shine a laser well that they used to ruin cameras that won't work anymore will it oh I don't think a laser is going to do much. It's possible from a distance if you had a high enough output laser, which is probably illegal at the beginning with something you want to play with. You could probably blast them one at a time but it has to be pretty good shot

1:46:06 Yeah. Um... Yeah, but again you know you- Oh maybe a drone! Maybe a drone with a spray can attachment or something that's an idea. That would work. Now your thinking! A drone with a spray can attachment? Or like one of those drones that holds like a 45 and shoots. You could shoot the thing out. The judge! Strap the judge to my drone we'll take care of that for ya Okay, well what I hate the most about TV. I think is what you were referring to it's okay Just go ahead so I want you to put this is what I hate the most about TV ice fan I saw two examples of and I saw it on Shark Tank does this constantly? And I don't like the show. I don't like shark tank bunch a good guy It's just it's um. It's just not if I don't like the show You know they asked me like do you know they asked me to be on that show as with the product as a shark

1:46:06 Yeah. Um... Yeah, but again you know you- Oh maybe a drone! Maybe a drone with a spray can attachment or something that's an idea. That would work. Now your thinking! A drone with a spray can attachment? Or like one of those drones that holds like a 45 and shoots. You could shoot the thing out. The judge! Strap the judge to my drone we'll take care of that for ya Okay, well what I hate the most about TV. I think is what you were referring to it's okay Just go ahead so I want you to put this is what I hate the most about TV ice fan I saw two examples of and I saw it on Shark Tank does this constantly? And I don't like the show. I don't like shark tank bunch a good guy It's just it's um. It's just not if I don't like the show You know they asked me like do you know they asked me to be on that show as with the product as a shark

1:47:00 Oh, why don't you do it? Well I'll tell you why. They call up and say that'd be great! That would be fantastic on the show. I think i can evaluate pitches. I've been through a couple. And they said okay and then you'll invest. No I'm not going to invest a dime in any of that crap. You have to actually invest. Wait so your telling me that you don't have a budget, that gives these schmucks with their ideas some money. All these sharks invest their own money they really do it yeah they really do it so okay I'm out is what I say! I'm out! What am I gonna... hey I will take 50% of your company for $800 and 32 cents from my podcast money So they must think you're loaded? Well this was a long time ago

1:47:46 No, but you were loaded. Yes and even then I'm like i'm not doing that we're gonna sit on your tv show for this no Well, that'd been fun. No uh anyway so they do this on the show they do it on Ramsey does it this is from the cooking show one of their ones where they have their home cooks and they all come out and Ramsay can't really yell and scream at him too much And they do it on a lot of it They do this on vote the voice They do this on they do this on all the shows and I just am sick of it But he played this clip. I'm trying to think oh, I got it here we go easy Nutella

1:48:22 But sadly there can only be one winner. Oh, I know The home cook receiving a major advantage in the upcoming challenge that person is It's time for getaway yes Yes Yeah well of course we're doing that you wait for the reveal and then commercial break So every one of these things, because television the way it is now there's other things to watch.

1:48:59 And so when they do this, when they go to the commercial and if it's not on the DVR I mean if some of the DVR just skip the commercials anyway but they go and here's. So in this case I said oh crap! And so I went start watching other stuff and never went back to the show Never went back to the show. I don't know who won looking back at it Who cares? This is just a stupid show TV were watching too much TV anyway and I'm not gonna be suckered by one of these, these. Oh and the winner is... And then they cut to a commercial and then you have to watch a bunch of commercials. You know what? I don't care who the winner is! It's no as we used to say in the olden days it's no sweat off my balls." I always heard back but maybe California had a different saying

1:49:49 This is a phenomenon I have in my house. Oh, okay! Listen up people! It's a singular house phenomenon and so i hear at...and the volume you're going to hear this at is what I'm hearing and play the Mockingbird clip And this is what I'm hearing downstairs. I'm this is MKUltra man. No, so I am multi-mockingbird So i have a mocking bird...I've always had mocking birds in the area and there's then this by the way This is if you want to play a little more than I do it after yeah, I like that You recorded yourself things about this bird? This bird has no talent He should be ashamed of himself But that's beside

1:50:39 He's got no rhythm, he's got no song. He's just doing his normal mockingbird thing and he stinks I've had plenty of mockingbirds that can do a variety of noises that are just astonishing Now this guy does have a car horn You can play that Car alarm What? This bird has a car alarm? They all do Oh, oh there we go All the mockingbirds get a couple of calls. I was not aware! Yeah, you can play in the background as I explain what's going on. This is recording that you put on your trading website right?

1:51:16 No, this is no that's the birds of that's a Holland thing. This is know this I had I'm gonna post this but I haven't yet and what it Is that there's mockingbird or any mocking bird? But this particular one in he likes to get on top of the chimney And he uses the chimney itself as a resonance vehicle to make his voice Have you considered shooting him with a BB gun now? I'm not shooting it You can't shoot mockingbirds They add a nice little thing to the... You can play it in the background. I'm playing it in the background! So he gets on top of their chimney and starts, you know again its way up there so he makes a bunch of racket and goes straight down the chimney into the house No! Yes at this volume and you go oh the mockingbird

1:52:02 And so you go down there, and you can laugh at them if you want. Did you light a fire? No no no but I did take the recorder, I took an H2 and stuck it in the fire box. Yeah chat room says standing wave mockingbird So when your in the house it sounds like the mocking bird is IN THE HOUSE Got it It's actually quite amusing to me But I will give a washing detergent tip for people out there who listen to Noah Jent on the show for these rare chance. Ladies and gentlemen, a washing machine tip from John C. Dvorak. Okay so of course part of my job was meeting with in some situation with Colgate Palmolive

1:52:02 And so you go down there, and you can laugh at them if you want. Did you light a fire? No no no but I did take the recorder, I took an H2 and stuck it in the fire box. Yeah chat room says standing wave mockingbird So when your in the house it sounds like the mocking bird is IN THE HOUSE Got it It's actually quite amusing to me But I will give a washing detergent tip for people out there who listen to Noah Jent on the show for these rare chance. Ladies and gentlemen, a washing machine tip from John C. Dvorak. Okay so of course part of my job was meeting with in some situation with Colgate Palmolive

1:52:46 And they told, I've given this tip before on the show but people should know it. If you're going to buy detergents whether it's dishwasher detergent or laundry detergent or anything that you expect to clean something with always get the liquid. Always the liquid? Yes and here is the reason why was told What's happened over the years is some of this stuff that did the way laundry detergent was first discovered was they let a bunch of soaps that they made dry up and it became flakes, and so they developed laundry detergent. It was just powder you dump in and clean with it but over the years... So basically a secondary product? It was byproduct of the original

1:53:29 Yeah, but what happened was they banned all the phosphates and other chemicals that used to be great cleaners that you could turn into powder. And why did they ban them? Was it killing people? No, it was environmental. It was the EPA and others because it was making like blooms of algae in lakes and it was causing you know water lilies to grow out of control. The phosphates are a food for plant life so there's a problem. So they banned all this stuff So they had to reformulate to produce these new chemicals that did as good a job of cleaning, but they could not make it into a powder. It wouldn't powderize so they started selling this idea of liquid and so liquid if you want to have anything that actually cleans unless you're in Mexico where they still sell the original stuff But if you want it in the United States If you want anything that actually cleans and works it has to be liquid now

1:54:29 First of all, thank you for this tip. That is John... Let me just... Ladies and gentlemen, John C. DeVore with a tip and only the tip as he is known Mr. Tip! Would you since we talk about all kinds of products on the show? Products that we like, products that we don't like because were not paid, no advertisement I would like to know what is your liquid detergent of choice I do like Tide. But knowing that these formulations are pretty universal, i'll buy anything if it's on sale so I use tide, I use era, I use all I use all the, I use the pens. But Tide, I believe to be probably one of the best formulations you could buy especially that ones and but there's a lot different formulations and you have to kind of pick and choose which one do you want if you want the fake bleach thats in Tide which is actually an enzyme. Well i'll tell ya, I'm a tide man myself Yeah And that is because for three months I went to college in West Virginia my roommate Tyree Hamilton from Newark

1:55:34 black kid, he taught me how to wash my clothes properly. He also taught me how to moisturize. I'm gonna tell you the black guys know how to de-moisturize and so and then he said Tide man nothing ever it's only tide there was no...I don't remember if we had liquid but i've been a tide man ever since So when I was in high school I was one of the lucky slash unlucky appointees to the Mald U.N One of those kids that was in the model UN they have this around. You were a globalist early on how interesting? Oh, yeah absolutely and so the model you our mock you and I think it was also called but as the model UN and every school got to send two representatives just though it was a country

1:55:34 black kid, he taught me how to wash my clothes properly. He also taught me how to moisturize. I'm gonna tell you the black guys know how to de-moisturize and so and then he said Tide man nothing ever it's only tide there was no...I don't remember if we had liquid but i've been a tide man ever since So when I was in high school I was one of the lucky slash unlucky appointees to the Mald U.N One of those kids that was in the model UN they have this around. You were a globalist early on how interesting? Oh, yeah absolutely and so the model you our mock you and I think it was also called but as the model UN and every school got to send two representatives just though it was a country

1:56:21 to the Model UN and I think it was in Berkeley they had it, of course. At one of the big auditoriums at Cal. And so we all went there and stayed in a hotel, they put us up in a hotel downtown Berkeley and me and my pal was Bill Katie. We ended up spending most of our time tossing toilet paper rolls out the window to see if they would unravel and make a streamer. But during the Model UN, you learned Robert's Rules of Order which have all these points of order, points of information, points at this point or that point, at this point or that and there is relatively

1:56:58 Maybe there's about 12 of them, but in that event that you were listening to they had...they're making some up. I mean it was there was no such thing as being a point of cliche or whatever. Point of personal privilege? No point of personal privilege is one of them. Oh, point of debate? Point of information? That's one of them I think it was point of debate or something they said that was not one of them. But all those other ones, a point-of-orders domain when point of information pointed to the point of personal privilege, those are all real and so when you went through this thing it was a big UN assembly and you had little signage and you sat there like one of those UN ambassadors and... And they, I don't know what they accomplished? I do know that it kind of was

1:57:41 childish in the way that we just witnessed with the DSA. It was a lot of point of this, point of that everyone's trying to show off so they know their rules and so they wanted to say something. We didn't have the pronoun thing obviously but it was and it... That's what I was reminded of. I was reminded kind of high school group you know trying to figure out the world and there up there in some fake meeting. It was borderline pathetic I was at one time, there was a sales guy that took a liking to me because he couldn't sell me anything. So he was an insurance guy this is when I was in college and I had pretty decent not great sales resistance. And then I run into people that I can't resist there's no way I'm gonna get out of it just okay I'm outta here whatever you want

1:57:41 childish in the way that we just witnessed with the DSA. It was a lot of point of this, point of that everyone's trying to show off so they know their rules and so they wanted to say something. We didn't have the pronoun thing obviously but it was and it... That's what I was reminded of. I was reminded kind of high school group you know trying to figure out the world and there up there in some fake meeting. It was borderline pathetic I was at one time, there was a sales guy that took a liking to me because he couldn't sell me anything. So he was an insurance guy this is when I was in college and I had pretty decent not great sales resistance. And then I run into people that I can't resist there's no way I'm gonna get out of it just okay I'm outta here whatever you want

1:58:35 But most people I can resist. If you go to the Middle East and deal with some of these Arab and Lebanese, some of these sales guys, generally speaking you're not gonna lose a lot of money but you gotta pay up or you don't get out alive. You're never gonna get anywhere but with most Americans are the typical Western sales guys that they have all these tricks and they go from one to the other to the other this guy went through the entire litany and he kinda ended with this condemning type of sales pitch and he never could break me. And so eventually, he said you know I like ya and then bought a cup of coffee and that was the end of it which i thought was personal

1:59:19 Victory for you. I had a similar situation just recently when I took my car over to get it washed at this place, I kept seeing this in Marin County, it's a washing place on the other side of the Richardson Bay Bridge and there are cars out there and they're scrubbing them down, like a hand wash that has machine augmentation and you go, I say I gotta get my car washed or going there, the guy has his sales pitch For for this $500 worth a thousand wax job Where they wax your car and they put this other stuff on they put this other stuff on it They put this other stuff on it. And so I got to tell the story if you don't mind wait Can I can I just guess the ending did your 25 year old Lexus come out looking like a 2019 model?

2:00:04 I never bought into it, because luckily did not have any. I just was gonna go to pay cash for a thing and I didn't have 500 bucks in cash and that was my out. It was great! I would love to do this! I will come back and do this later but I only have $60 in cash so I gotta get gas filled then I gotta get a wash. Okay he finally gave up realizing I was telling the truth But one of the things he did was at the back of the car, half of the trunk area. He had to polish it, polish and polish and polish. And then they did a whole little section. They said feel that, feel that! You felt it? It was really smooth and clean. Wow yeah, its great

2:00:47 He said, well the whole car will be like yeah I don't know and it got 60 bucks. Okay so he goes through comes through the washing machine comes out the other end they wipe it down to do all what they do which is kind of interesting in itself and then I go on as a first aid because I checked that area It was no different than the rest of the car When I was doing the tech TV show Silicon Spin we used to have different people on I used to have Danny Ash on a lot and all kinds of others. Who's Danny Ash? Danny Ash was Danny, she makes like we figure four million dollars a year doing just softcore. Oh okay She is a soft core girl and she has her sites Danny's Hard Drive. Oh Danny's Hard Drive I've heard that sure

2:00:47 He said, well the whole car will be like yeah I don't know and it got 60 bucks. Okay so he goes through comes through the washing machine comes out the other end they wipe it down to do all what they do which is kind of interesting in itself and then I go on as a first aid because I checked that area It was no different than the rest of the car When I was doing the tech TV show Silicon Spin we used to have different people on I used to have Danny Ash on a lot and all kinds of others. Who's Danny Ash? Danny Ash was Danny, she makes like we figure four million dollars a year doing just softcore. Oh okay She is a soft core girl and she has her sites Danny's Hard Drive. Oh Danny's Hard Drive I've heard that sure

2:01:31 And she, sweetest thing you ever wanted to meet. She's gorgeous too and she'd be on shit but she was a business woman. She was actually a hardcore businesswoman and she would have some real interesting insights into all this stuff and her husband was like a lawyer so she was like the business woman he is a lawyer. She is a stripper or not a stripper whatever she was. You know? She did like really... She was exhibitionist that what she was. High end sexy shots Hot shots right that's about it. Yeah, but she would make it We did some calculations at the time and this was in the late 90s 98 maybe 99 something like that That we fear she's made about 2.5 based on her numbers and the rest of what we knew But I have day other people would come through this show And they were porn People and they were you could tell that they were being corrupted by Danny less so because she was you know? I think she was pretty just normal exhibitionist type woman

2:02:24 But other people you could see, especially men. You could see them just slowly creeping toward that let's wear a... I think I'd look pretty good with that big gold necklace. Yeah exactly! Maybe i should open my shirt up a little bit more? You know I'm growing some hair here with the gold necklace. I think it's gonna look pretty good. That's a good look yeah. It looks real well. And then you can just see him falling into it and you know I could grease my hair a little more. I think maybe that will look good what about a mustache How about you now screw it? How about your vodka lesson do the vodka lesson. All right, years ago when I went to...I don't know why this isn't something that everybody does because we kind of do it a lot at various houses in Washington. We have a whole cellar full of these things Mimi does a lot of these which are infused vodkas and it's really great thing. You know I didn't think much about it until and then I don't want us bragging about where I was but I was in Jakarta some fancy nightclub

2:02:24 But other people you could see, especially men. You could see them just slowly creeping toward that let's wear a... I think I'd look pretty good with that big gold necklace. Yeah exactly! Maybe i should open my shirt up a little bit more? You know I'm growing some hair here with the gold necklace. I think it's gonna look pretty good. That's a good look yeah. It looks real well. And then you can just see him falling into it and you know I could grease my hair a little more. I think maybe that will look good what about a mustache How about you now screw it? How about your vodka lesson do the vodka lesson. All right, years ago when I went to...I don't know why this isn't something that everybody does because we kind of do it a lot at various houses in Washington. We have a whole cellar full of these things Mimi does a lot of these which are infused vodkas and it's really great thing. You know I didn't think much about it until and then I don't want us bragging about where I was but I was in Jakarta some fancy nightclub

2:03:22 It's on somebody else's tab. And, you know I wanted some...I don't know we wanted some drink and the guy it was like involves Stoli pepper vodka. And the bartender says that Stoli pepper vodka is not really that good you want to try my pepper vodka? And I said, sure. And so he brought out a bottle of vodka that had a bunch of serranos and like a bunch of them in there and tried that and realized it is pepper vodka was like so much better than the commercial stuff which probably uses some... There's no peppers in there they'd probably just have some liquid they squeeze in there

2:04:02 So I started doing my own pepper vodka and other vodkas, infused vodkas including the ones with bison grass which is really one of the best vodkas. It's called buffalo grass or bison grass and it's also called sweetgrass in this country and you take a little pile of it not too much and you put it into some vodka that adds this outrageously delicious flavor. Now what kind of vodka do you need to use as your base? Just any vodka, any plain vodka. The Stoli? If you want to... Stoli's fine it's not the best vodka. The best vodkas... You know the vodkas actually do taste different from vodka to vodka if I was going to just recommend a vodka out of the blue i would recommend the Costco Kirkland

2:04:44 Vodka that's made in France and because everybody in their sister and Costco will admit to this knows that. That's gray goose ah Okay, that's interesting and it's cheap like much cheaper than gray goose obviously It's a half the price is not even half as beyond have to wait a minute so a bottle of gray Goose Is what 50 bucks 40 bucks? No? It's about at Costco. I think 3535 but the grey goose or the Costco stuff the Grey Goose and cost goes like 14, 15, 16, 19 dollars for a liter 1.75 liters is a big giant bottle so there's your tip right there everybody go buy this and then send the extra 14 bucks to The No Agenda Show I think i mentioned this after the show and you said you didn't say it on the show but I'll say it now which when I was a kid that's what we were taught

2:04:44 Vodka that's made in France and because everybody in their sister and Costco will admit to this knows that. That's gray goose ah Okay, that's interesting and it's cheap like much cheaper than gray goose obviously It's a half the price is not even half as beyond have to wait a minute so a bottle of gray Goose Is what 50 bucks 40 bucks? No? It's about at Costco. I think 3535 but the grey goose or the Costco stuff the Grey Goose and cost goes like 14, 15, 16, 19 dollars for a liter 1.75 liters is a big giant bottle so there's your tip right there everybody go buy this and then send the extra 14 bucks to The No Agenda Show I think i mentioned this after the show and you said you didn't say it on the show but I'll say it now which when I was a kid that's what we were taught

2:05:36 We were taught that the Amazon produces all this oxygen and it's very crucial that its remain intact. Yes, I think I learned similar. Yeah just reminds me of the International Geophysical Year which I believe was 1957 And was recorded by Steely Dan Then before the International Geophysics Year, everybody would...the schools would teach that it's just a coincidence. That if you look at a globe that South America kind of fits into Africa like a couple of jigsaw puzzle keyed. Oh yeah! I always heard this. No no no, do you think that fits? No no no no. It's bull crap man. It's a coincidence

2:06:26 And then the International Geophysical Year appeared and they determined, that's when they discovered tectonic plates. They realized that yes it was once one giant land mass and then it moved away very slowly but it did fit which was the first thing you'd see when you looked at a globe logically it looked like it fits and they're trying to deny the obviosity of it Why were they denying it? When now its generally accepted as true baffling. It just became some sort of a standard, you know somebody... I have no idea they didn't want to believe it i guess it was like now that can't possibly be true because that means there would be one giant landmass and we have no evidence of such a thing

2:07:14 Yeah, three four topics sounds about right. Maybe if we do it once a week yeah I don't think yeah, I think that's a good idea I don't think weak I don't think We can sustain this length because sometimes I mean the The interview you had with dr.. Ron was worth discussing for a while. Yeah true Okay So what we'll see but this is maybe a little bit on the long side But just under 40 minutes is pretty much the max. I think yeah, I agree Well, I agree. A giblet is an order Yeah, I think so And you know what? Just run it through YouTube so you get their captions and just take that verbatim It'll be even funnier! I might just do that. That's funny Thank You very much Sir Rupin Waffles for executive producing and putting that together a quite a job

2:08:08 Pull all those stories out of over a thousand. What am I saying? 1,200 episodes Thank you for your courage because it truly took some to dive in and do all that take a lot Yeah Well anyway glad I had these stories to tell and I'm sure there's more stories to come and you know what? It's codified. Your life matters because it is out there in thousands of different copies of mp3s There you go We'll be back on Thursday right after Christmas with another episode of the No Agenda Show, that will be 12-02 Until then have a very Merry Christmas and adios mofos I'm Adam Curry And I am John C. Dvorak Merry Christmas everybody we will talk to you right after the big day Adios