Fossil Fools

00:00 They had these big giant prawns, man. Covering the Cop and broadcasting live parallel to runway 27 at Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry! And from Northern Silicon Valley where the rains have washed the area clean...I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! You know I said Amsterdam, but it really...I didn't mean to do that. It just came out- You said Amsterdam! I heard that. It came out that way. That was- I knew you were meant to say it that way. Time to leave. I'm in Amsterdahm. Amsterdam man. I'm in Amsterdahm.

00:50 Yes, I am another gray rainy day. You've got the same right here no no it's good right now It's sunny oh, I thought you said it though Oh the rain had washed everything away. It's already done yes Now is today Pearl Harbor Day or tomorrow did Pearl Harbor Day was yesterday was yesterday Okay That was the day that Was a date a date a date and That will something and it'd be there for in infamy. I don't know well You wouldn't know if you wouldn't know being over here did anybody do anything about that in the States? No, I died That's when somebody mentioned to me an email Thanking us from doing such a great job on this show They mentioned that I said holy crap. I didn't even mention that newsletters is a good thing dimension So I sent out a little note yeah, I saw that and that was appreciated My grandfather was in the Navy lieutenant commander

01:43 Now, he wasn't at Pearl Harbor. He got lucky on that one but interesting that it's completely just been wiped away not even a mention I had nothing over here not a single thing yeah and even on the international scene... It was mostly football games high quality ones too so then you know who cares about it in the past? Yeah let's just do pretend war Have the jets fly over, but let's not remember anything. That's interesting Well the impeachment here is page 17 no one cares and there is unusual since I know they're basically Europe as a bunch of Trump haters They that may be and what's on page 17? Is you know that the typical skewed? I mean do you think it's bad when the US press writes down what Adam Schiff says

02:33 But then have the Dutch make it step up. The Dutch press then just copies that and translates it to dutch, and you know now It's facts. It's how it works. It's a very simple system very simple simple simple but Yeah, it's nobody nobody cares at all it seems Yeah, the only thing... let's see what do I have? What did we learn in while I was here learned a couple of things. There were number of things that wanted to know about which is what was the feeling in Holland about the Brexit for example you know it's I would say that the Dutch aren't that interested in Brexit either they've got their own crap going on In fact the biggest news here

03:13 Outside of the fact that the farmers really are threatening to cut off all supply routes to all supermarkets right around Christmas, which people are like well you know I support the farmers but if they're gonna ruin my Christmas then I don't think i like that so much. of the support seems to be limited but the big news is they announced the hosts of the Eurovision Song Contest did you get it? I missed it by a hair John just buy a hair in fact they had to get three hosts

03:58 They get three hosts, that gives you a better opportunity. I guess i was not on the short list. No... Hungary by the way has pulled out they said we're not participating in this Stupid contest with women with beards is what Orban has said. Remember it was the... Well that's a reasonable thing to do, at least he has a backbone! He's barely coming out and saying it's too gay no which of course in song contest no he hasn't done it yet but he's literally like wait up this is what kind of show is this? There's some point to that

04:41 You gotta give him credit for saying it. I kind of like that, but the... The new phrase here in the Netherlands, you know... Oh yeah it's hilarious. And that's also news! You know it's a small country but everyone has to drive 100 kilometers an hour That's the max which kind of shrugs their shoulders and go idiots and they grouse a little bit No one is really doing much else with it We had the same situation in 1970s in the United States when they yeah, we Had a gasoline crisis. Well though I was living here when that struck and they had car-free Sundays Well there was that too did we have that in the states? And we didn't have that in the States do we know but we had every other day for getting gas Also for being on the road some places oh wow

05:35 Yeah, I remember it was just there was no cars on the road at Sunday and it seemed to go on for a year. At least we never had them know people need to drive where the other you know they're talking about that again here because You know they well We'll get into that in just a moment because it all has to do with climate change and that is the other big news 25 cop 25 I have some clips too. I did want to finish up The Dutch Report No, continue with the Dutch report longer. I don't have that much. You had to go to COP25. I got some good stuff from COP 25! Um...I have a 100% hit rate of coolness factor with the Millennials with my flip phone. They love it. That's great! They love it and here is what interesting they say

06:26 Oh man, I'd love to have this phone. I want this phone and then just keep my other phone my smartphone at home or in my bag or whatever for Instagram that's the main thing they kind of do Instagram said no okay but they all love it they think it's cool They like the idea of not being able to do too much, and of course they love the fact that WhatsApp will run on it if you load it. Because that's the only way you can communicate in this country no one uses text message anymore All of Europe is all sold on WhatsApp It is so disappointing I've never used Whatsapp Oh yeah, I've used it And I got banned from it actually I got banned from WhatsApp Yeah didn't we talk about that? How did you get banned from WhatsApp

07:16 I was using a pearl no, I'm not Pearl. What's the other one? A Python I was using a python library because what I wanted to write is this is when I was you know One of my was this probably year and a half ago And I was really into this just before we went on vacation in Mexico Which should be easy for you to remember cuz we barely ever go on vacation So that's how long ago it was. It was just after that, because I'd read this book Automating Things with Python and I was like oh this is cool! And so you know there are some scripts that I still use today... Some minor things but what I wanted is a Python script that would run on a server would check to see if there was a WhatsApp message and then send that via text message to me

08:08 And then in theory I could respond and it would go back, but it never got that far because the library that I used exhibited abnormal behavior from what they would expect. to be hitting the API or whatever and my number got banned. Boom, done! And you know I got a note that said you're banned there's no way to resolve this this number may never ever be used again so... and if you don't have the phone number that's an actual cell phone You can't even register for WhatsApp That's how they do it It can only be on one phone at a time So that's the story of how i got banned from WhatsApp

08:54 Well that's besides being a boring story. You asked for it! It's deplorable! It's typical It's typical, it is what it is. These companies are a bunch of douchebags they don't even have the wherewithal so they could maybe resolve something that was a mistake you can do anything to screw with them yeah in fact I did write a note to info at something or support our help whatever that helps never even reply right in fact this I don't know how they do it but somehow there's electronic messages go right into the shredder Dev null as we say and then the final thing from the lowlands does the phrase as you know they they've already co-opted Black Friday We have black friday where they love that. You know as much as they hate America

09:42 How do they get suckered into this? Everybody hates America, but yet they get suckered into the stupidity of Black Friday where there's no Thanksgiving. I know! It's just a purely commercial vibe and for some reason they love it. Well, the Dutch love a good deal. I don't want to say they're historically cheap asses... Who doesn't?! But the phrase that pays these days in the ever-changing media landscape is... BINGE WATCHER! Binge watcher? Binge watchin'. Binge watchin'? You nailed it. Binge watch it, eyy we're gonna binge watch it They've finally figured out binge watching Between Black Friday and that

10:37 They're doomed. Yeah, they're taking the worst elements of America's culture and maxing them out. I know it is so disappointing This is the problem Yes Alright that's what we got now And then we had a nice family gathering for my dad and that was all beautiful Everybody came So...I'm ready to go back home But not before I kick off our COP 25 coverage, which has been wall-to-wall here. This is what everyone is Wall to wall on democracy now in fact I even got two or three clips from Democracy Now!

11:15 But the first one would be from a, from the British side. Now ocean deoxygenation This is the big one ladies and gentlemen this is what came out of COP 25 this is what everybody is speaking of! Now ocean deoxygenation Probably haven't heard of that, but it's a very big problem. The ocean is losing oxygen due to climate change which will in turn affect hundreds of millions of people according to a new United Nations report scientists are calling this the ultimate wake-up call to humanity why well the ocean represents 97 percent of the physical habitable space I love how they bring in a ninety seven percent number again

10:37 They're doomed. Yeah, they're taking the worst elements of America's culture and maxing them out. I know it is so disappointing This is the problem Yes Alright that's what we got now And then we had a nice family gathering for my dad and that was all beautiful Everybody came So...I'm ready to go back home But not before I kick off our COP 25 coverage, which has been wall-to-wall here. This is what everyone is Wall to wall on democracy now in fact I even got two or three clips from Democracy Now!

11:15 But the first one would be from a, from the British side. Now ocean deoxygenation This is the big one ladies and gentlemen this is what came out of COP 25 this is what everybody is speaking of! Now ocean deoxygenation Probably haven't heard of that, but it's a very big problem. The ocean is losing oxygen due to climate change which will in turn affect hundreds of millions of people according to a new United Nations report scientists are calling this the ultimate wake-up call to humanity why well the ocean represents 97 percent of the physical habitable space I love how they bring in a ninety seven percent number again

11:58 This is genius. This is very good messaging We have the 97% of all scientists are all in agreement that the humans are breaking the earth and now they bring in the The oceans cover 90 percent of the earth the ocean represents ninety seven percent of the it represents It represents physical habitable space on the planet. It is central to sustaining all life on Earth the major drivers of oxygen loss What the hell is he talking about? He says that the oceans represent 97% of all inhabitable parts of the Earth. Yes, I was waiting for you to stop me on that!

12:40 Well, I did. I stopped you! What is the... what? What's he talking about this bull crap is that 97% of the earth just be we're all living on the ocean but what does he saying physical habitable space let's roll it back and listen again because this is the report well the ocean represents ninety seven percent of the physical habitable space on the planet it is central to sustaining all life on Earth Okay, it represents 90% of the first seven 97 percent of the habitable if you're a fish That is an interesting little statement you got there. Anyway, we continue the major drivers of ocean oxygen loss are climate change and nutrient pollution with the latter affecting coastal areas scientists say rising sea temperature caused by carbon dioxide another greenhouse gas emissions is leading to Oxygen depleted zones The report found that the loss of oxygen from the world's ocean is increasingly threatening fish species such as tuna marlin anglerfish

13:42 and sharks. Oh, it's just horrible! And this was the headline... This is what they were jamming down our throats I'm not quite sure what it has to do with climate change other than one of the authors of the report, the spokeshole was everywhere she'd I think she did a news hit on every network from I saw her on, well...I didn't see her on CNN International. I don't think but she was on Euronews She was on France 24 She was on Sky News Al Jazeera and you just look at her and already don't like her I'm just telling when you see her Mina Epps is her name

14:23 She's got big AOC glasses with thick rims and red, red wearing red hair tied back. Big those big rock like Nancy Pelosi necklaces you know the ones with the big stone what is up with that? Why do women think that's cool does that look cool well it's replaced pearls oh That's what it is look I'm not wearing pearls Is that the idea I think that might be it. I'm not sure, this never...I kind of agree with you. Most iterations of this there are some fine iterations that are nice but most iterations are ugly It's what you expect on Madeline Albright, you know? What was the girl's name again? Mina? Mina Epps Here she is So its a different She's the...I can tell exactly what she is Shes' the director of global marine and polar programs

15:20 Whatever that is. Here we go. So it's a different type of crisis It's the price of the ocean and you're absolutely right, but it has been missing from the climate change negotiation And very much been focused on what's being going on at land? So I think it's very notice She says it's been missing from the climate change negotiation which is little different from the climate change conversation or the reporting or the fear-mongering It's clearly being used as a chip in the negotiation. I don't know, what are we negotiating about? Is this something I missed is this about the money? I'll bet you! I've been missing from the climate change negotiation and very much been focused on what's been going on at land so i think it's very timely business of blue cock and finally the ocean... Now tell me what she's saying here

16:09 This is a blue and I can't hear the word. I listened several times So, I think it's very timely this is a blue cock and I mean I know what it sounds like but it can't be that was the Bluecocks That's yeah bluecock but What is a bluecock? Well, I don't know if you've been to Portugal maybe. Right? It's been going on land so i think it's very timely this is a blue cock and finally the oceans which contains 97% of living space is getting the attention that they deserve So what we're seeing or what we've seen is actually a decline in two percent of the global oxygen level They have been reduced by 2%. And it... I can't breathe! Doesn't sound like a lot

16:53 but just these two small changes will have enormous implications. But within that is actually a lot of regional differences, so we can take an example of the southeast coast of California in the deeper waters We've seen a decline in 30% of oxygen level in the last 25 years. So how does this all affect, you know, life and the ocean and ultimately us? Because we're depending on it for the regulatory system so deoxygenation will have an impact on biodiversity on biomass of commercially important species and vulnerable species or rare species, but also habitats. So those oxygen rich and which are favorable conditions to some species will shrink these are shrinking these habitats

17:44 but also we are altering the energy and biochemical cycles within the ocean. Do you hear this bullcrap? Do you hear, I mean she said nothing that makes any sense whatsoever. Blah blah oxygen blah blah... It means these upwelling systems which are absolutely crucial to sustain these fisheries that's bringing the nutrient-rich waters into the surface areas so we're seeing species are migrating because of this. The IUCN did is that we work with 67 different experts around the world putting together this report looking at this cumulative impact but also the linkages to climate change so all those different parts of the puzzles are coming together and of course climate change has an amplifying effect on these issues

18:31 We're already seeing the changes and they are drastically all the alterations that we've done to the oceans. So what I see here is a hijack, it's a hijack! Some other group came in... You think that the ocean people are trying to get into the action? Yes! Yeah, the blue cocks. They're coming in they want some action and then what does she say at the end well of course we're looking at the linkages between this and climate change there's climate changes so it's not really a part of your climate change story yet she is the star of the show Not to start the show here. Well, no but I can't even find her on the on the on the YouTubes or the Googles Really really not spelling your name right or something? Yeah Well, I don't know how to spell it's Mina Epps EPPS Let me just see Mina No, that doesn't look right Oh, yeah, Mina Epps M-I-N-A double n double P Mina Epps And there she is yes

19:33 Alright now he gets closer. Oh, oh her You have you seen her before? She's like a stereotype Yeah, put that put a beanie on her the green one and have her go stay in our red one I should be like Meg Like Meg exactly she's got these big stones around her neck yeah Yeah, I told you. Told you she's all about that. Big smile, get the big smile! And the intelligent hipster glasses While you're looking i shall play you the report that everybody is buzzing about and of course the reason why we have to drive a hundred kilometers an hour max here in the country Why the farmers have to cut their output by 50% because... The results are in and Europe is failing on climate

20:25 The European Environment Agency's report shows that the EU could do better when it comes to curbing emissions. Many of the targets which we set for ourselves for 2020 will not be reached, so you could say no we are not on the right road. We should implement better and if we are serious about the von der Leyen agenda towards the Green Deal and sustainable development... You notice by the way they talk here of a green deal, not the green new deal just the Green Deal which we were obviously unaware of No, we've heard this before. The Green Deal? Just by itself... Oh okay I forgot. ...meant better and if we are serious about the Von der Leyen agenda towards the Green Deal and the sustainable development goals we will also have to come with really new policies. At a current rate greenhouse gas emissions will reach 4000 megatons of equivalent CO2 by 2030

21:25 With a bit of effort, the EU could reduce its emissions to almost 3500 megatons at the same date and then achieve carbon neutrality by 2050. If Europe wants to get serious about going green, there is one sector that can't be ignored. Transport! The black spot remains essentially on the issue of greenhouse gases since today the transport sector has emissions that are 30% higher than those of 1990 Over the last four years greenhouse gas emissions from transport have started to rise again Faced with a scale-up task, the European Agency stresses that solutions do exist technologies are available, but it also insists on the full implementation of EU policies.

22:23 Yeah, we'll get them. We need new and innovative ways of curbing our carbon emissions Don't drive slave everybody has to go electric John all the cabs all around the whole country will all have to go electric It's they're going they've gone crazy here And people just like dude you do Okay, that's all fine So I'll take us up to cop and you can know you have clips so I want you to jump in we have two clips it is really less about cop and more about the underlying currents that are going around this thing. Let me take us to Madrid first now, this was

23:02 You know, there's been lots of people out on the street and they're running around. And it's a very big deal so they're getting a lot of coverage. They are spraying them with high pressure hoses. They are rioting in the streets of Madrid thanks to this operation. So here were the pro… Remember the Spanish guy says hey because they were supposed to be in Chile? Yeah. He says come over do it in Madrid we'll love to see you and then that is going to cost citizens of Spain a lot of money Well, they're there and they have a new chant that I picked up. It could not be... Yes? You did you saw the new chant? I think it's the same one. I mean it's like-I guess if we want to call it new but its formulaic but go on.

23:56 Power! People! Power to the people. Cause the people got the power. Power. People. Well, yeah you got me. I heard the one where they're just yelling the same old fucking leg out whatever we want No, i like this people have the power standing there like sheep underlying socialist mentality Sheep being sprayed by water cannons People have the power!

24:55 Yeah, you got the power here's your power right here. Oh Down so then Greta arrived in now she arrived in Lisbon Before it to the wrong place She was on a catamaran or something oh the guy that they flew over yeah So they can die quiet now, so I have a couple of Bits here now this was from democracy. Now. I checked these are not your clips And this was also before I guess Amy went to whatever secret studio she had This is

25:37 Right, the climate justice speech. What this is and you see this is kind of the overall theme here it's somebody please think of the children yeah just like they have oh near that Greta of course but they've got a hundred kids and all of them are cute you know they're all in the 15 year old range living 13-15 you know they're well spoken there they're angry They're mad, they're really mad and they are up on the podium and they are just mad. So here is the speech We are a youth movement that fights for climate justice we fight for climate justice because our house is on fire And because our house is on fire we've organized in strike for the climat together with thousands of students many times this year Our demands are simple In Portugal

26:32 We need to reach carbon neutrality by 2030. We need to keep fossil fuels, including gas on the ground. We need to provide clean energy for all and we need to cancel new airport projects Montijo included." This is interesting Montejo is a brand-new airport that they've been planning in Portugal Which is going to be massive, four runways and they want to make it the hub for cheap airlines which I think is economically probably a really good idea. Yeah! And well not for these kids apparently they don't want cheap flights No cheap flights Because we need a system change not a climate change Oh! Woo System

27:18 We are still far from winning. We know that change disturbs the ones in power, they tell us our country's ambitions and climate policies but we know it isn't. They tell us they're doing what they can but we know their not. But we also know this is a struggle of our generation and we will not give up We all have raised like a wave to demand climate justice for all and we need everyone to join us. If we lose, everybody loses! Now we are like Greta heading to COP25 in Madrid. We'll meet with thousands of other climate activists from many countries including the global south There will be protesting once again against the priority given to profit over our lives

28:06 Now of course these kids, they do realize that politicians are full of crap. I like that part where they say these guys will take profit over our lives any day. That's good and you should know that because of course that's true it has just been misguided! That is the sad part. The seas are rising and so are we. Wait. Thank you for having inspired the youth, thank you for being radical in your speech... Thank you for showing politicians and corporations that will no more accept the climate chaos they've provoked. Greta don't stop because together we are going to change this system and demand climate justice for all! We are the ones we have been waiting for and we'll put out the fire in our house! Thank you and welcome!

28:57 Now, what was – now that was just kind of to give you an idea. These kids and they went on the train with Greta to Madrid that's how they got there but the UN Secretary General also spoke and he said something new which I think is we've got to figure out exactly what it means or how it will be implemented This is Antonio Guterres who is the UN Secretary-General What is still lacking is political will. Political will to put a price on carbon, political will to stop subsidies on fossil fuels. This to me was a winner! Fossil fuels? I mean it's so good he doesn't even know how good it is

29:47 Yeah, I mean if an American did that it would be like oh genius fossil fools. All right but he... That's not the thing that i was talking about Political will to stop subsidies on fossil fuels political will to stop building coal power plants from 2020 onwards political will to shift taxation from income to carbon taxing pollution instead of people We simply have to stop digging and drilling, and take advantage of the vast possibilities offered by renewable energy and nature-based solutions. So we need to shift from taxation of carbon instead of taxation of income? This is a big idea!

30:37 Well, it's a big idea. It says bit specious I would say the course they never remove taxes you end up taxing carbon and income at the end Yes at the time of the week that day the end of 24 hours yes and But what is he with taxing carbon? What does this mean well in If you put a price on carbon, I mean let's start with the American economy. I think we're bringing trillion dollars in tax income tax money something like that yeah remember the exact number i wrote up in that essay how are you going to get debt by taxing carbon?

31:22 Especially when everyone's like running away from it. Well, that would be the idea The idea is you emit X amount of carbon and we calculate that by The type of vehicle you drive the type of house you heat or and or cool If you eat meat so you get a number You got to score and that scores what you're going to be taxed on So the idea is, just like Bloomberg always says. You know it's like we've got to tax the poor people so they don't kill themselves in this case so they don't kill the earth Well, this is one of these things where how do you tax this without creating an onerous system of monitoring? This is kind of what I came away from. It may be the idea John! No that's what I came away from. I only have two clips from the operation and it's Amy introducing the situation in the process of her telling us why they're doing this thing in Madrid instead

32:25 I think it's Valparaiso or one of the places in Chile where, yeah. Or...I don't know someplace in Chile they were supposed to do it and a Chilean guy the president says no we don't want this is a hassle It's not a good time for me right now. It's nice not a good time for me We have riots on the streets. Yeah you guys here to make it worse so of course that that's Amy just accuses him of being a right-wing guy, of course. That ball that doesn't want to deal with climate change when he's got more to deal with she doesn't address it honestly but there's a bunch of things she does bring into the picture which is this and I think that last clip that you played is representative of this idea which is

33:09 population control, one world government. Let's bring climate... You can't do climate change without social justice and I don't know how much of this you got over there but the idea of linking the two has become very apparent. Can I binge vote social justice? So let's just play clip one here. You know, I'm sorry. I gotta stop she sounds like you know, I'm broadcasting live from the surface of the moon I want you to know how important this is don't you get that vibe from her? She's a little more chipper in that way Loves going to these events and becoming the only you know She broadcasts remote from there and there she's like a minor celebrity. Oh yeah Does he have her big rock necklace on oh

34:05 I bet you Amy has one of those. You know she does! Yeah, but she wouldn't wear it on television. We're broadcasting from Madrid Spain where the United Nations Climate Change Conference known as COP25 began Monday and will continue through next week as environmental leaders from around the world gather to negotiate global solutions to the climate crisis The summit was supposed to be held in Santiago, Chile. But the country's right-wing president Sebastián Piñera canceled the summit just over a month ago amidst massive protests against economic inequality and austerity. Spain's President Pedro Sánchez then offered to host the summit. Activists have converged in Madrid for the summit and are hosting an alternative summit of their own—a

34:55 Cumbre Social por el Clima, the social summit for the climate. The alternative summit has been organized by social justice and environmental groups to draw attention to the ongoing political repression in Chile. Corporate influence on the climates summits Spain's own failure to address the climate crisis and the Eurocentrism of the Climate Conference which is being held in Europe for the third year in a row. The Alternative Summit begins Saturday morning that's tomorrow at the University of Madrid and we'll kick off tonight with a climate march through the city center. This is very encouraging what I'm hearing here it is because apparently, a group has figured out that this climate negotiation which...I've never heard these cops called climate negotiations but obviously what they're doing is they're negotiating money which will go to

35:52 industry, you know government coffers. They're going to people who already have money! Yes thank you they're going to take money from poor people and from taxpaying people and give it to people who already have money yes and they figured it out that's why now of course there they put that under the banner of social justice which is we know will be a co-opted misguided mission it always seems to be but its encouraging Then at least people see the bullcrap for what it is. Well, I know but these people the social justice warrior splinter group. Splinter groups. Yes good name and so you have a splinter group coming up in there and they're marching and rioting and then making those chants that went earlier that you had there was one of their chants. Yeah they have people power man we are going to binge watch it for the people power! And they are protesting that regular cop thing even though Amy can't get her head around that because this social movement

36:52 operation which has a warehouse nearby put her up in her and put a studio. Oh, that's where she was. Jitty jitty. She's all well she's in her case it's hard to say what she is but she's very happy and joyful that she's been She's chosen one. Chosen one, important. And clip two kind of brings a little of that in We're broadcasting from the convergent space that activists are using as a hub for their organizing It's a union hall and former monastery that today is covered in colorful protest art and bustling with organizers that have pulled The Alternative Summit together with only a few months notice

37:38 So we're right here in the Cumbres Social, in the social summit for the climate with one of the organizers Tom Kunckarts. He is a journalist and activist with Ecologists In Action it's great to be with you welcome to Democracy Now! sit here. This place is surrounded by posters, maybe we can do a broad view of the walls? It says Plaza de los Pueblos, the plaza of the people, Salvemos la Tierra, save the earth as well. Let's decolonize! That is a very important issue, we have a huge historic debt with millions of people who were slaved from Africa to America and never have been justice about that so the issue of anti-racism and anticolonialism is very important for the march also today at 6 in the afternoon

38:34 Hopefully thousands of people will be gathering in this very important march. So tell us about this place that we're in, it is a former monastery? Yes, it was built more than 400 years ago but it was a trade union building since the 80's Yeah that was slick! He's going on about reparations and injustice... on and on. He could have gone out for days, and she made him stop because it was like becoming too obvious what's actually going on. I mean she is the one who invited him on so there is no reason to cut him off like that but this is what's going on. There are a bunch of these lunatics that are just a bunch of communists let's be kind of honest about it uh...and then Spain has loaded with them. We probably have a number of Spanish communists listening

39:23 I hope so. But when they start going on and on, there's no discussion by this guy about climate change it is about reparations and injustice. That is the negotiation right there in a nutshell! Hey we got to negotiate... hey where is number 25 already? Where is our piece of the pie? What are you guys negotiating? And that is already a lot less. A lot of this triggered was began in Chile A couple of major oil and gas companies apparently sponsored

39:59 Part of cop 25 big fabulous threw in a bunch of money Which you think that they'd be happy to get this money from these people because I was bitching and dirty money But as soon as the money came in there all these socialists started demanding that this is co-option We do we don't want your money right? And all the sort of thing has become an issue now. You have this splinter group Sounds like somebody wasn't invited to the Exxon party That's exactly right. Hey man, they're partying up over there! They had shrimp cocktail! They had these big giant prawns man and they were on ice there was a big giant thing and they were on ice and they're all spread around and the cocktail sauce was delicious you could grab one of these giant shrimp and dip it in this sauce and it

40:55 It's 10 to 7 here I haven't eaten a big giant prawn so And it was Michael Zed who sent me this whole whole hour of one of Amy's reports And she interviewed some other teenagers. Here's another Swedish teenager, always fun to laugh at accents in kids. So I should say as we're speaking here your pal Greta is in Lisbon she just made landfall and she is about to actually speak. Others are speaking first at the news conference How excited are you? If she does begin to speak as we're doing this segment Then, they'll have to shut you up because your not important We will go directly live to her Your father's a scientist Yes he is So I've always grown up with lots of scientific talking around the house And it made me really curious to learn more This kid is programmed

41:56 What do you think of our president, President Trump in the United States saying climate change is a hoax? Well... Yeah listen to the united science. It's out there and it's their responsibility to read up and educate themselves all leaders of the world This kid is so programmed with a new term united science You've got to listen to the United Science she said What do you think that is? I don't think that's a new term. I think she flew on that one on her own Well, i like it United science is a good one in fact i wrote it down united science Here's the second one hold on hang on united Science and time code noted what message do you have for world leaders listen to what the science is saying

42:54 Do we need to drastically reduce our carbon footprint and take care of our environment? It's your responsibility to do that, and not put it on us. We can't wait any longer. Oh poor kids Poor kids. Can't wait any longer, what is she? Is her foot on fire? I mean what's going on with her? Her house is on fire! That she has been programmed... They sent the Fire Department over there and put the fire out. That's what Greta is doing. Greta is there to put out the fire you heard it. You think that maybe in some far distant future people are gonna look back at this Greta phenomenon and wonder how exactly insane

43:34 People were during this era? No, I'm glad you brought... This is a kid. ...I'm glad you brought this up because it's very easy for us boomers although sorry I have to stop it for a moment I now have official official boomer cutoff date you are not a boomer if born after August 23rd 1964 nine months after Kennedy was shot So I'd be me being September 3rd. I am actually a Gen Xer but all for purposes of this show, I'll be a boomer because it's more fun than the world's oldest gen x-or yes The og Gen Xer that's me But I remember all the things that we've been told would kill us

44:21 And and I'm not we're not I'm not alone. I didn't know that he was still doing shows but John Stossel Who I think? He was he was on Fox for Fox News, and then he was kind of pushed off to Fox Business News And now he's on YouTube But he's still doing wait just she had at least give the guy a little more credit than that Johnson was a regular on the big boy network he was on ABC news for years and years but the problem was apparently he was a Republican

44:58 He may be can't have Republicans doing these shows because apparently he liked it. It's always two cents worth in once in a while Well, he didn't even opt for the typical RT deal which is what you do when you get thrown off mainstream media kicked off Fox we could get any traction on Fox because I Think we want to stop for second and put our executive hats on for a minute sure thing. He never really Was a Fox type He always looked like a network type. He looked like there is a network type This is why I don't think Laura Logan's gonna do very well at Fox. It's the hair, you're right it's the hair... But also he may be a bit too honest for Fox. I've always thought he was a pretty decent guy His whole thing was that he was like the original Tucker Carlson in terms of being

45:51 gas that he found out that these horrible things have been going on. Can you believe it? That the public's been getting screwed? Holy mackerel, I can't believe he was just this type of guy and but he's always had that network deal to big three network look ABC in particular, and we had a local newscaster here that was one of these people. I can't remember her name she was here a long time ago but she was a big shot ABC Type doing one of those, you know shows where you have two or three people yakking about some story 60-minute clone and she quit and became a local news reader here And she couldn't do it because she was in the you see that She was a national type couldn't work local right be local. I think the same thing's true with Fox There's only been a very few network people and there have been a few

46:48 network people from the big boy networks to Fox that have moved over and been very comfortable or over at Fox. Well, who? Stossel's not one of them No but who did move over Oh there's a bunch of lesser guys they're mostly field reporters and I could think of a few names i'd have to go look him up But there's more than a few that are at Fox it used to be ABC or CBS Hmm well Stossel is doing his His same show basically on YouTube and someone pointed out to me I just pulled the first 35 seconds because it kind of put me onto an idea this environmental Catastrophe bearing down on us. I keep hearing that we're killing the earth how dare you You have stolen my dreams in my childhood

47:35 But wait, I've been a consumer reporter for years. I've covered so many scares! Plague, famine and perpetual war will kill us We're going to run out of oil? Nuclear power will give us cancer. Killer bees swarm ever closer, bird flu, flesh-eating bacteria... The list of terrible things that we're going to get us is long! And yet we're living longer than ever. None of those scares turned out to be as frightening as the warnings But I'm told global warming is different. Entire ecosystems are collapsing, we are in the beginning of a mass extinction So you know Stossel is probably a boomer...I think he's probably about my age and if he's older or younger but I agree and I just wanted to take us down little short trip down memory lane

48:27 When I was Greta's age, is what i'm calling this segment today. When I was Greta's age 1978 I was... Stossel was born in 47 Oh! Stossel's a big boomer He's a boomer-de-boom-boom-bermer He's up in your neck of the woods, Boomer And so he that's why they kicked him off the air Because his old... Ageism Exactly Just ageism at Fox And and he did a report on 5G I know he did So, old 5G. Year out! That's it done you don't fit anymore But when I was Greta's age this was my segment 1978 I was 14 so just a little bit younger but when Greta started she was that age When I was Greta's age this is what i was being scared with In 1977 the worst winter in centuries struck the United States

49:25 Arctic cold ripped the Midwest for weeks on end. Great blizzards paralyzed cities of the Northeast One desperate night in Buffalo, eight people froze to death in marooned cars Pat Bushnell was on the road that night Traffic just absolutely stopped I was afraid of being stuck in a car all night long with the cold and wind running out of gas And then what? I think that if we had to go through a real bad winter, just like we just went through. I think we'd have to think about moving someplace else. Move where? The brutal Buffalo Winter might become common all over the United States. Climate experts believe the next ice age is on its way. According to recent evidence it could come sooner than anyone had expected

50:23 Now, if you don't think that didn't Worry me as a kid it did and it was only one show that I'm highlighting here We didn't have the internet. Did you catch the voice by the way? Did you recognize the authority boy a little bit? Yes, Leonard Nimoy dr Spock there is little doubt but someday the ice will return

51:07 At least eight times in the past million years, it has advanced and retreated with clockwork regularity. If we are unprepared for the next advance the result could be hunger and death on a scale unprecedented in all of history. What scientists are telling us now is that the threat of an ice age is not as remote as they once thought during the lifetime of our grandchildren Arctic cold and perpetual snow could turn most of the inhabitable portions of our planet into a polar desert. So I just play this for the people who are young, who are like, eh these old boomers shut up. We've been through this kids! This is one time where it makes sense we've been through this we've been through all of it and it was the exact opposite and it was the same people John P Holdren. There's actually one or two guys apparently two very famous guys from that era

52:03 I mean most of the guys have switched their sides to go to the other way because they did this where the money is. Yeah, but there's still one or two holdouts that still think we're going into an ice age which i've gotten kind... I'm with them! I've been so affected by Leonard Nimoy from my youth that I am still believing. It can be true and that's what the media does Happy because the climatologists get money Leonard Nimoy got money. Yeah, whoever produced this the series got money It's just lots of money you know there's a lot of dough in this so anyway well yeah still get to the bottom of why This is so important to so many people and it's definitely population control Oh well that's always and in that thing I think even mentioned five billion people on the planet they're all going to perish

53:04 All going to die eventually. Mass extinction. Extinction! You know I'm surprised someone hasn't called what ecosystems have collapsed? She said there's ecosystems are collapsing, which ones? Yeah well...I don't know you know that i'm sure there's some bug. Some bug. Some bug. It's annoying yeah Girl yes, oh I have two quickies before we move on to unless you have anything else on COP 25 No, I'm good with COP 25. I'm sure I'll have more the next show God want a note from one of our producers who shall remain anonymous? I've worked in the marketing department at Walmart for 20 years I know who this is he says we met at the Fayetteville meetup some years back and

53:54 I can confirm that Walmart has never paid off a layaway for a native ad. Walmart is way too cheap! Walmart would never spend the money when there are good Samaritans willing to do it. Nice theory, but false. However...I'll pitch in in the next meeting. That's a no agenda producer for you You do that. I find it hard to believe and I still think it may be the... I find it hard to believe too, sometimes you can be working for a company don't really understand corporate. Well but he's using the corporate marketing so... And then this was very good tip from producer Jonathan telling me about

54:40 you know, how I solved the problem with the robot coffee machine. He says oh just go in any gas station buy a $25 prepaid visa card like okay thanks you know A lot of effort to go through for uh...to not get spanned by a robotic coffee machine but it's the second part of his note that is interesting this is an official no agenda travel tip As a secret side benefit, and don't let this get out he says... You can use this card now in flight on any airline. And buy whatever you want it will always be approved if it had any balance at all and you will enjoy your drinks and food for free!

55:30 Apparently, they're storing swipes only in the air due to the unreliability of plane data and it also slows down the process. So they only run them when they're in cellular range. They prefer a small loss in the lesser-known fringe cases in exchange for easy sails in the sky." No agenda tip and it's not traceable to you. This is a Larsonist It's not this that larceny only larseness I'm just saying that if you run out of money on your card, you know It sometimes not a big deal Is that a better way of explanation? I saw hit the old duty-free store in flight Get some of these pearls for my girlfriend. Hey, she'll like this Big Rock necklace

56:21 Wait, you have a girlfriend? I'm just... Sorry. Sorry! I thought that was really funny Okay we do not recommend this this larcenous tip. Hmm Hey fascinating tip though Yeah So on the heels of there being quite a faction of people believing that Drudge Matt Drudge has sold the drudge report And that someone else is now running it and he hates Trump or whatever. I've never really... Do you look at Drudge Report? I've never really gone there.

56:59 10 15 years ago. I used to hit it Just a link list, I mean just there's no reporting in there generally once in awhile There's something most times just links to other stuff I think is because he never did an RSS feed that I just never followed It's like get a feed together man now you never did that He sold it well That's that's the that's what the word is and well so the reason why bring it up because I don't care Is that a fan site? The drudge report and the fan site has 1.3 million followers tweeted the best podcast in the universe with at Adam Curry at the real Dvorak hashtag ITM and a link to no agenda show calm Nice yeah, and then the gab guys jumped into new listeners And then the gab guys jumped in

57:54 They got a couple hundred thousand, so it's like we you know this nice. We got We got some link love that's probably all bots who the hell knows 1.3 million bots I don't know anything going on there yeah, and Oh yes, I did have three more things I wanted to mention A beautiful Christmas animated No Agenda is out if you haven't seen it. I'm sure you have, you saw the latest... It's great! And it really is something for the producers because if you don't know our language then you're not even going to understand what they're singing but it's a great job, beautiful thank You Jennifer, Dame Jennifer. I have a new search engine to try out Uh-oh Yeah, you might like this as well. Its SwissCows.com

58:51 And they're in Switzerland, you know. They have a big no data tracking storing promise and they have a lot of... You know that's pretty much what they are. They are an AI company so they sell AI solutions and they have some interesting little widgets in their search engine but my point being it doesn't seem to track you. They pledge they don't. They're in Switzerland and it's fast and it gives you good results So it's something to try, something to... and I just came up with- I will give it a once over. Give it a once over and the final thing oh yes they came up with the name was waiting for this you know this will probably take us into impeachment um you know Dave Weiner my co inventor of podcasting uh he blogs a lot

59:45 All the time. And I subscribe to his feed, although somehow I get his stuff 18 times...I don't know how many feeds he has and stuff is messed up in my aggregator But uh..he is complete- He is like your Lib Joe's He's completely off the rails about Trump Thinks Nancy Pelosi would be the best president ever but the thing that got me The thing that got me is he now claims that NPR is clearly now being run by Republicans because he didn't like the NPR reporting on some of the impeachment hearings. And he just kind of, oh this I have to find an alternative source. NPR's now it's just all Republicans and like

1:00:30 What do you call a guy like Dave Weiner because I'm looking for you know, you have your lib Joes? I don't have any Joe's and by the way for people who'd understand or are new Lib Joe's is The joe's are journalists. And these are two friends of John's who are Semi-retired but they're the big boys they've written for the big big Publications with the big papers But they go unnamed further and there their We don't like the term Libtard, so Libjo. Makes more sense! And so I was looking for a name for a guy like Wyner and then it hit me... A Libdev

1:01:11 That's actually a good name. It's a great name! Because there are tons of LibDevs here in the Bay Area that work at Google, and they work all you know... It's also... Jack Dorsey Yes! LibDev exactly. LibDev And you know, LibDev is also if ever get into your Linux package manager You'll see a lot of libs and devs So it kind has triple meaning But yeah I was like LibDevs And that's what we got to be on the lookout for because they're everywhere. And they're also trying to change open source development itself, you know removing terms like master and slave from your projects... From your master-slave arrangement Yeah! From your GitHub It's crazy Anyway I don't know what they do about male and female plugs Oh there are all kinds of issues There have gotta be 75 different kinds of plugs

1:02:13 You mean like regular plugs? Plugs, plugs. 75 genders. Oh I gotcha. Sorry...I'm out of control No not really Let me see So where we at you know what i'll tell you what I'd love to why don't we tease when we tease some uh some 25 for 45 stuff Whatever that means. That's impeachment the 25th for the 45th president hello, we'll tease some so coming up in just a minute We're gonna do some impeachment stuff but first I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you of the man who put the C in COP25 John C DeBruyne

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1:03:35 So you can do that at noagendastream.com and then also a big in the morning to Data. Data brought us the artwork for episode 1196 we titled that one Clinton killed Epstein, apparently lot of people liked and this was the dog smoking the pipe yeah dog smoking the pipe now why did we choose this one? Because it was the best piece that was there and we knew would pop well, then is always the big pop. We like the. Let me see what else did we like you know there were some funny stuff but if you make really small letters won't aid doesn't pop in a just can read it

1:04:20 It's always a shame. Try to look at it, take your art and put it on 250 by 250 and see if you can read it. Yeah 256 I think is... Already Comic Strip Blogger has done a permanently ban from WhatsApp Art for this show And that's how it works! We've got artists who are listening to the show live in real time creating art pumping it out You can almost just watch, just refresh that page as an extra piece of entertainment as we're doing the show. Sadly, we can only choose one and we do that at the end right after the show which use title with a little opening segment in the artwork And then we thank Data for his participation and for the value he provided to the show because it makes a big difference As far as I know everybody's iOS device now also updates the art work again

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1:05:53 Yeah, three more. It's going to be on the 19th of December I think it's the Thursday the 19th will be our 1200 episode Wow That'll be a special show All right Let's start with Paul Yassi in Meckway Massachusetts $353 and 17 cents With this I become Sir Paul Knight of the command line I request coffee and Bailey's at the roundtable Jingles, Oreos addictive Monsanto accounting. What? I think it's jingles, oreos... Oh and Monsanto. Yeah And then he has got accounting and then he has some money. Okay Alright Paul so i'm gonna put hold on don't think that had that what did you want Bailey's and

1:06:41 Coffee and Bailey's. Coffee and Bailey's? That's it, just regular old coffee? Coffee and Bailey's... Well no, coffee would be one of them and Bailey's would be another so you put it in the coffee I understand, I understand Okay, coffee is in Bailey's Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine! There ya go Happy to oblige It was good, it was good Chris Kendrick 34567 No jingles, no karma. Adam and John in response to the last show I'm offering my expert analysis of what goes on in the brains of a new listener to The NO Agenda Show here is my own experience as a first time NO Agenda listener being on and a fan at night at DAW. Oh no does it stop there? No! Yeah oh no that's horrible well

1:07:35 Oh, man. Let me see if he's got some email in here maybe I'm looking to I don't I do not see it oh that sucks oh my god you know what? You know he might be kidding us okay so just here it is and then not give us the answer yeah you really think that poorly by the way then what happened was... Okay well Chris if there something else than please e-mail it to me or John for both of us And I'll give him a karma just in case. Oh, no he didn't want any. I'm sorry No, he said no jingles, no karma. There's no email either by the way. No, I don't see an email Okay Dame Laura and Daleville Virginia $311.23 in the morning A day that will live in infamy Thank you both for the sanity you provide By the way it's a date For people out there with sticklers or details It's a date that will live in infamy December 7th

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1:09:28 That's not the one she meant, but I have the actual. No, no, is that was that Tom Jones? Yes, the actual Tom Jones singing on the show. Tom Jones everybody special appearance James Varga comes in as an associate executive producer $233 Dear JNA your show continues to deliver high quality value I can't tell you how many times they've been ahead of the curve and well informed with Current events all while keeping my sanity I'd like to call the no agenda collective and request baby making karma for my better half And I are in the process of trying for our first human resource Jingles a little girl boom shakalaka, and I don't eat me Hillary sounds perfect. Did he want karma? Yeah, baby-making course

1:10:21 You've got karma I Love the kids. Oh, no if you anybody out there with little Actually little boys sound good too but little girls in particular some some very cute doing this adult phrasings Yes, actually no sense coming from them that's the best and we're still working on theater version of douchebag, but I haven't quite nailed it yet. See you're already in true Dvorak fashion You're even getting the youngest member of the family to chip in Chip-in chip-in kid when we have the dinners he could win Oh, yeah We all have everybody is encouraging him to say douchebag in a very concise way Yeah, I think Child Protective Services should pay your visits not exactly cool what's going on there?

1:11:19 I and the kids love it. John Foley in Chicago, meanwhile loves it with two hundred seventeen dollars and thirty three cents. Itm Jens thanks for all the entertainment insanity you deliver each and every week three years and three weeks after listening to my first episode is time to join The Roundtable and reminisce After one year of listening, I gave up 2X speed and started listening at normal speed. After two years, I could see native ads and media manipulation everywhere! And my amygdala returned to normal size. After three years, I deleted all non-default apps from my phone and bought a ham radio." Nah! Yeah we got this guy. He's on. We got him. He's hooked.

1:12:03 I can't quite say i'm a full OTG kind of guy and I still wear my Apple watch but I find every run with 33 miles or I finish every run with 33 miles so the bastards know I'm on to them. Just like the guys who see my whatsapp complaints. Yeah Now at the start of my fourth year I'm wondering if it's time to jump ship as this show has brought me To a funny convention no, no no reread Oh, it was brought me to a furry convention Yes He's in Chicago yeah well that'll wake you up regardless night me sir Jofo the plundering knight jingles can i get The Fletcher Foley

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1:15:37 Uh, ITM Gents... This is my first time donating and I need a de-douching. You've been de-douched! Biden whole load hot liquid. My brother hit me in the mouth In small bits in the past year or two and I began listening on my own Commute and love of the media deconstruction with comedic relief this donation were interrupt The plans he had to call me out as a douchebag Oh knows He had he had these plans after receiving the screaming goat Desk toy I sent him as a gift. I think I got one of these yeah, I got one too the screaming goat They're great if it actually

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1:22:05 You know, it's I should mention about COP 25 and no one has said anything about it. I assume it has to do with the relocation to Madrid but the COP25 signage behind the dais on stage says COP25 Chile-Madrid Oh really? It says Chile still? I didn't even notice that Yeah, it says Chile slash in small letters and then Madrid and big letters like it was put on later. Well yeah, Chile's gonna take credit for it I guess. I don't know somebody bought the sign and they couldn't fix that. Okay

1:22:52 Well, there are some things. Sorry a little bit about impeachment? Yeah well first I'd like to remind everybody... My favorite clip! You know what I want to remind everybody as we go into the impeachment segment tomorrow Monday the 9th there will be new hearings but also tomorrow they're gonna they're supposedly gonna push them off to Tuesday oh I thought that were going to do it tomorrow purposefully because of Inspector General report that's coming out which will include thousands of sealed indictments. The Tik Tokers as they're known, they're Tik Tokers people like Hannity and DeGeneres by the way

1:23:37 Media Matters has noticed that Joe DeGeneva and Victoria Toonsing have vanished from Fox. They're no longer on the Fox business talking up thousands of sealed indictments, they've been de-platformed Well you know you can't keep pulling this crap that's just gonna happen and by the way on Wednesday... he's got too many, it's to specific We have clips of him on a Monday saying, On Wednesday. Right but they're really gone now so and I did have one...I was thinking about these hearings and this whole thing. I have a question. I just need to understand one thing

1:24:20 If I were in these hearings, and we all know they're really boring and people are asking all the wrong questions. The entertainment value is 0.1 It's just nothing of any... CNN has a lowest ratings in three years amidst their constant impeachment coverage But if I were asking questions, I would say I would like to know Regarding this phone call that the president made with the President of Ukraine, Zelensky. Why is it that the otherwise reality-based television show Veep? The vice president uses video screens with all the world leaders yet our president is like on a Bakelite phone and they got people writing down what he said

1:25:15 What why is this? Why don't we have the cool video screens or do we Or is it just the president with that big phone with all the buttons on his desk Seriously veep is a very realistic show to some degree or was and she's always calling up world leaders on there You know, the secret closed circuit system. It has a name I don't know what it is And you know see encrypted video We had we have the president of Bolivia on the on the on the video system ma'am Well, they just use all the old sets from our man Flint. Okay? All right and Anna and just on the heels of that I would say I do believe I Do believe that the lady who had that the Baron the Baron Trump joke I think she ruined it for the Democrats I think she really blew it because that was the only thing that really made news

1:26:13 And if you went on the street and said, hey what did you hear about the hearings? They'll say oh well that woman she shouldn't have said that. I don't remember her name either but yeah she's a terrible person. I do have a clip of her that somebody picked up from 2003 It's 2006 Her name is Pamela Carlin We both have the same clip I shall play it The rich, pampered prodigal sanctimonious incurious white straight sons of the powerful do pretty well everywhere in the world and they always have. But what about us? Snarky bisexual Jewish women who want the freedom to say what we think read what we want and love whom we do

1:27:00 That's your clip. You don't have the same one? Well my clip I think has a little better sound, but mine has the little kicker at the end that you don't have. Oh hold on what did you name it here in your cliplist It's that female judge under Trump impeachment. No wonder she has a problem with old white men! Because we have more reason than they do to love America. The rich, pampered, prodigal sanctimonious incurious white straight sons of the powerful do pretty well everywhere in the world and they always have but what about us?

1:27:40 Snarky bisexual Jewish women who want the freedom to say what we think, read what we want and love whom we do. Stop yelling at me! Well you had a bit of it in the beginning too which I didn't have. Yeah You and Me? Old white guys that don't even love America Because we have more reason than they do to love America No they have more reason... okay And who said you can't have love who you want to love and say what you want, read what you want to read? You can! There's no problem. I don't know what she is talking about. She is being floated by some nut job group as a possible... When Hillary Clinton wins in 2020 they'd like to see her as Supreme Court

1:28:31 Justice. Oh, can you imagine? Yes for the show I'm I can only just pray that we just played and She can't get in she's already screwed herself then you can do stuff Well, you can say this sort of thing and expect to get approved it's not gonna happen It was the who is the group here though demand justice Of course the climate change people Yeah. Demand justice, all right yes so uh so she made it interesting but it was interesting outside of the actual entertainment portion that was on television the whole time yeah so they just don't my favorite clip is that so we have these hearings and everything's going you know according to democrats plans and you have uh you know there's actually a

1:29:30 kind of a I'd say confirmation, but we're headed to our confirmation of what Al Green and Maxine Waters wanted. To impeach this president so he can't be reelected which pretty much is what they said but wait a minute now that were on a roll it's not that we can just bitch about anything we can think about and so what so Al Green has a problem Mr. Speaker, I rise because I love my country and I have a problem but i also rise today with heartfelt regrets it hurts my heart mr speaker to see the judiciary committee

1:30:14 hearing experts on the topic of impeachment, one of the seminal issues of this Congress. Hearing experts Mr Speaker and not one person of color among the experts What subliminal message are we sending to the world when we have experts but not one person of color. Are we saying that there are no people of color who are experts on this topic of impeachment? What is the message that we're sending? Mr. Speaker, if I am wrong, I will apologize but if the committee is wrong, if the Congress is wrong what will it do? People of color for too long have been ignored by one party and taken for granted by the other Too often this happens Not always but too often it happens

1:31:10 Mr. Speaker, I refuse to be ignored and taken for granted! I came here to represent the people who are ignored and taken for granted not one person of color among the constitutional scholars It seems that there's a desire among some to have the output of people of color without input from the people of color. Before we do anything, I'm gonna give you Clip Of The Day for that. Fantastic! That is so fantastic. Isn't it great? The guy who is so worried about the racists currently occupying the White House—that's how he would say it—

1:31:53 is, still feels that you know getting rid of this horrible scourge on our democracy. Even though it's the republic! That that's less important than bitching about this yeah but he's right the key there was you said we've been taken and we've been ignored by one party with that he means Republicans and taken advantage of by the other no not taking advantage but taken for granted I'll take it for granted I'm sorry Same that's even more it is even better taken for granted. Yes, the black vote is in play I think the black vote is I know at least one guy who? Voters in play you know a lot of number which has been floated around as 30% of the black votes and play If if that goes Independent or evil though if it doesn't go towards the Democrats if it goes if Republicans It's over

1:32:53 I think even 5% could sway it. It's gonna take more than that, but if they start to bail on the Democrats, the Democrats are going to have to do something other than take the black vote for granted. Well from my vantage point, the Democrats have already started pandering to the new black and that's transgender They've been doing that for a while. There's not 20% of the population, that's for sure! I know but who said it was smart? And then they're also pandering to the mostly Catholic Hispanics which is very risky because an Hispanic will turn Republican at the drop of a hat Very quickly

1:33:38 Although maybe is that maybe what this is all about I pray for the president all the time Nancy Pelosi's oh, she's so prayerful Prayerful. I'm prayerful praying for this some praying for that Prayerful yeah Did you see her town hall? I might have caught a piece of it, but i didn't record anything from it. Oh, I think may have one Nancy clip? This is from the town hall she did on CNN after the whole red white and blue draped in the flags were going to impeach and after she yelled at the journalist although he's from Fox so she doesn't consider him to be a journalist

1:34:19 And she did a town hall, completely set up of course with people reading questions the way you want to do it with Jake Tapper. And the first question out of the gate after Jake did some back and forth is obviously why do you want to do this? Why do you want to impeach instead of just win at the ballot box? Some argue that the 2020 election as a better process for removing the president from office what made you decide to continue with impeachment proceedings despite it being so close to the election All kids think like that and speak like that, of course. It's a whole year and couple more months for the president to be in office And I appreciate your question Here is the thing One of things that the President did was to undermine jeopardize the integrity of our elections by asking a foreign power intervene you know what they ask was

1:35:12 to announce an investigation into his potential rival. This is interesting and important, the narrative has shifted ever so slightly from the phone call and requesting the investigation into the Bidens although he actually asked for favor according to the transcript according to the Mueller report as reported by The Drudge Report is he said hey look into this 2016 thing it seems like yeah the corrupt government of Ukraine was complicit there's also some server you know do me a favor

1:35:54 And then later on it's actually the Ukrainian president who starts about the corruption and then Trump talks about Biden. But this has shifted now to the ask, you know what they asked... The reason she says you know what the ask was is because she doesn't actually want to explain it I think just want to mess it up or whatever You know what he asked us and then she goes into very briefly This is new and this is the new mistake that Trump made is he wanted President Zelensky of Ukraine to go on television and make a big deal about Joe Biden. That is now, listen I'll play it again but that is now what they're going after. Our elections by asking a foreign power to intervene you know what the ask was

1:36:42 to announce an investigation into his potential rival. To announce? You know what the ask was, so she even cut herself off at the intervene! This is very very weak and if he isn't stopped from doing that you will want continue. He invited intervention. Come on in Intelligence community says they're completely certain that the Russians... Whoa, she said certain. I heard it too! She said certain! Intelligence community says they're completely certain that the Russians disrupted our election in 2016. Hanging out with Sandy Ocasio-Cortez too much? That they are 24 7 doing it all the time

1:37:32 And so when the president is saying, well the Ukrainians actually did it. You know that their conspiracy theory and the rest that has to be stopped with what's a present one of his grievances his offenses is that he was jeopardizing the integrity of our election and we cannot let him continue to do that without holding him accountable for it. It's very weak. It's really really thin But that's the new, new narrative that I got from the town hall. They're gonna have to figure out what they're doing because they seem to be a little rudderless A little? Well they seem to be rudderless and you get this sense that Nadler and Schiff are arguing with her constantly about how to go about this but she is the boss technically so she is going

1:38:31 Call the shots. Now they're gonna write up some papers, you know how long they're gonna let this drag out I'm not sure well Pelosi has her own issues now with Ukraine and I have to say OAN, One America News is they've decided to start kicking some ass. And i'm not...I still really don't..i mean I think their own Christian faith based? I think is there deal? Yeah definitely. It's a family owned But they are going after, well the issues that we've discussed and we've played clips and had many discussions about. And they really see eye to eye at least with me I think with you as well about all of what was going on with Ukraine in this gravy train that everybody was on now we have to go back to 2000... What was it? 12? I don't remember now 14 when um yeah when we basically

1:39:33 Co-opted the entire government we determined who was going to be in the government with a coup with snipers who were killing people Killing the Ukrainian cops and security forces with snipers John McCain was hanging out with Isis people people in Ukraine and we had... Brennan was over there handing out doughnuts. It was a Brennan operation, it was a total CIA operation it was the worst they've ever done is embarrassing how bad it was particularly when Victoria Nuland's phone call was taped and distributed and leaked by the Russians yes where she said F the EU

1:40:12 But this gravy train is starting to come off the rails and One America News is all over Paul Pelosi Jr. who was one of Paul Sr.'s and Nancy's sons, who of course had a cushy little gig with the Ukrainian oil company. The House Intelligence Committee wrapped up its public impeachment hearings on Capitol Hill but another story continues to unfold surrounding the son of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi Well, the Ukraine scandal revealed the Biden family's ties to the country. The less told story surrounding Paul Pelosi Jr., that still unraveling on the sidelines following revelations that he was a board member of the Ukraine oil company Abiskoil and executive for NRG Lab. On America's Rachel, a son has caught up with journalist Patrick Cowley who has been covering this story at the House Speaker's son take a look

1:41:05 I wanted to follow up with you because you've been covering this Paul Pelosi Jr. story, where we now know that two major Democrats Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden have sons with business connections in Ukraine and we just went through that public impeachment hearing centered around that Ukraine phone call between President Zelenskyy and President Trump. Do think the think the Paul Pelosi Jr. story plays into this Democrat-led impeachment effort? I think it's clear that Democrats and also establishment Republicans, people of the political class were using Ukraine as their own personal piggy bank by putting their family members on the boards of companies to act as surrogates. This is total quid pro quo foreign aid, I believe was used in order to grease

1:41:51 the President Trump is out there saying, look I'm exposing the corruption. I'm exposing the private sector business deals The cronyism that was going on in Ukraine the corruption and in fact by law The United States is supposed to help Ukraine clean up their corruption And so this is all a diversion In order for the Democrats to ameliorate themselves of these private-sector very shady business deals that they were doing and I like that He said it properly he said Democrats and Republicans

1:42:41 And that's it's exactly what they're accusing Trump of. They have been, and this is not just Ukraine but this was the bungled botched operation where they just said oh we're gonna give you all kinds of military aid We're going to give this to you! We have the power! We are Article One Nancy But can you hook my son up? Yeah I'm and then John Kerry's kid Biden's kid Pelosi's kid Are you kidding me?! They all had their hand in the cookie jar And I'm sure the Never Trumpers... It just seems like this has got to, in the olden days this has the New York Times of LA Times, The Washington Post. This has that- The big boys should be all over this story. Thank you! This is your All the President's Men. This is your Bernstein and Woodward and Hogwarts Those guys should be all over this You're so right! But I have a little more evidence Of this new new narrative because they have this bit of a problem

1:43:42 The New York Times started this. New York Times wrote really wrote the article the the current narrative Bible that said and this is gets funny That you know so the real ask here as you just heard Nancy say The ask was for the president of Ukraine to make a public announcement that he's going To investigate Hunter Biden and Joe Biden and for all of this all of this horrible corruption, it's been going down And that's that. That's what it was in the New York Times wrote something extra. They said that the plan was to have the president of Ukraine announce this on the CNN show GPS with Fareed Zakaria now we all know Fareed, Fareed is the Indian Pakistani of origin

1:44:37 I don't know if he's Indian or Pakistani, I'll look it up. Yeah and he's a globalist... He wants the Constitution to be repealed! That's right, he feels the Constitution is stupid should get rid of it, it's no good And he got pulled into this and all of a sudden they're telling him like, yeah he was supposed to do it on your show. So Fareed Zakaria who I think his show...I don't know when it airs in the US but I saw this here on CNN Internacional And it made me smile. The phrase quid pro quo is usually translated as something for something in the case of President Trump's communications with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky, it appears that the quote was supposed to have been a declaration of his commitment to undertake investigations into the 2016 election, as well as Joe and Hunter Biden

1:45:30 The New York Times has reported that a public announcement was set to be made on my CNN program. So I think I owe viewers my best understanding of what actually happened. Ever since Zelensky was elected president in April, my team and I have been interested in having him appear on the show. We began the process of establishing connections with the new administration which was cordial and efficient throughout

1:46:06 On September 13th, I met with Zelensky in Kiev on the sidelines of a conference. I was participating in and let's stop right there normally and normal show would never even think about it But he said I met him while I was participating at a conference This Ukraine John where's the donors from Ukraine? There's nothing but good stuff happening there Everybody's in on this I looked it up This is the Viktor Pinchuk Foundation which held six public lectures on the occasion of the 16th annual YES meeting. That is the Yalta European Strategy, this guy's pro-EU of course and he wants to get Ukraine into the European Union and indeed

1:46:56 Public lecture, Western decline China's rise and a new world order by Fareed Zakaria host of Fareed Zakaria GPS Friday September 13th. So yes he was getting paid He's on the train who is this Victor Pinchuk? Well... Would you believe it if I told you he was a big pipeline baron? Nah, that would be too crazy wasn't it. More people sucking off the oil teat of Ukraine! Way to go guys way to go He came across as smart energetic and with a much sharper feel for politics than you might expect from a neophyte What's a neophyte a beginner.

1:47:46 It was a brief conversation, but we did discuss most of the big issues he faces. Ukraine's relations with Russia, the US, economic reform and corruption We also talked about whether he wanted to do the interview in English which he speaks well or Ukrainian I left with the sense that all was well. Zelensky had perhaps seemed a bit distracted, but I assume this was because of the many challenges he faced." See this is the color that he's adding! Well you know now that you mention it New York Times... He did seem a bit distracted. Maybe because he was thinking, oh boy this is the show I'm going to announce the Biden corruption scandal on Yes he did seem distracted It's a testament to Zelensky skill that he did not let on in any way The immense pressure he was under Maybe he wasn't under any pressure but okay Let's put it that way Amazing how the neophyte Was able to fool me Fareed Zakaria

1:48:46 The man who does speeches about the New World Order, it was surprising that he just... As we now know for months the Trump White House had been mounting an intense campaign to force him to publicly announce those investigations. He had tried to resist and put them off in various ways but ultimately decided he would have to give in according to the times. According to the times? Nothing that... He didn't, there was no ask, he didn't ask Zakaria can I talk about this it never came up but okay His team apparently concluded that since he was planning an interview with me anyway That would be the forum in which he would make the announcement

1:49:21 Though neither he nor any of his team ever gave us any inkling of that. However, after my meeting with him in Kiev, my team had begun to discuss the potential logistics of the interview with his team time and place But the ground had already begun to shift. Just imagine Zelensky's dilemma, by the time I met with him in Kiev he knew the aid had been released but the backstory had not yet broken into public view So this makes even less sense! The aid has already been released He knew that it was being released but somehow he was under enormous pressure to still mention this? I mean, i thought he was supposed to mention it before the aid was released. Isn't that how it goes? Isn't that what quid pro quo is? Ukrainian official price... What?!

1:50:07 Yeah, that's what it is. The aid had been released but the backstory had not yet broken into public view Ukrainian officials I spoke to about the release of the aid at the time were delighted but a little surprised and unsure as to what had happened Zelensky and his team were probably still trying to figure out whether they should still do the interview A few days later on September 18th and 19th The Washington Post broke the story wide open The interview was called off We are of course still trying to get it. Well there's only one thing I can say about that. Bullshit! They threw that... Zakaria is an Indian, a Muslim Indian You don't have to say with such disdain Well he's a Muslim Indian because well I didn't mean to say with disdain and I probably would be inclined to think he's a Muslim

1:50:59 Atheist because he went to Yale and then Harvard. It's pretty hard to be religious and He was busted for this is that you got his PhD from Harvard in government studies, which is Dubious he's on the board of the Council on foreign relations. Oh yeah And he's no globalists going on but the thing that's interesting to me is is that he was busted for plagiarism. Yes, several times I think. Yeah he's a plagiarist and then it's like...I know people have been busted for plagiarism and there are different ways of getting around it we discussed on the show but six days later after review of his research notes in years of prior commentary Time and CNN reinstated Zakaria

1:51:51 described the time, described the incident as not an isolated. It's not intentional and CNN found nothing that what says to me is somebody said hey you just guys work in there for a reason you put him back in there we don't care what you think well they The New York Times didn't give him a heads up he was caught flat-footed on this it was actually longer I cut out some irrelevant bits but he just was talking around the sub basically He's like, he has no...he can't really back up the claim. Didn't look nervous, the guy was funny didn't come up then he didn't do it to cancel the interview yet this is this is the big ass that Nancy Pelosi apparently is basing the impeachment, the articles of impeachment on Well they're gonna have I don't know how they're gonna pull this off you The real problem the Democrats have Is that they are corrupt and stealing money?

1:52:47 Besides the fact that there are corrupt operations stealing money, taxpayer money when you start seeing what this real source is or taxpayer money. It's where they get rich in office but in so far as the impeachment the technicalities of the impeachment are concerned if they actually go through with it or they voted and they may not vote again I mean it's possible some Democrats have a clue They will have pushed this over to the Senate right during the period where many of the senators that would be involved in the trial Have to be on the road promoting themselves for president nominee for the Democrat Party Yeah, the timing could not be worse. The timing is bad for them. It's good for Hillary Yes Very good for Hillary it's just a matter of waiting it's all happening and

1:53:44 It's all happening forever. Anyway, as a side... What was the word I'm looking for? Something out. Not even a side note but something because of all of this coup d'etat in 2014 actually The role that Joe Biden played you know just the whole coup that took place forget about the corruption just the coup that took place thanks to corruption turned Russia eastwards, in particular with their pipelines. And just... let's see six days ago Vladimir Putin participated in the official opening of the Power of Siberia natural gas pipeline to Asia servicing China and this is one of them one of the most intricate

1:54:45 pipeline projects that has ever been undertaken and completed. It goes through Russia's eastern Siberia, north of Mongolia to the border with China 2200 kilometers across Russia's East territories it can withstand temperatures to minus 62 degrees centigrade it can withstand earthquakes and it connects up to, I mean there's two underwater pipelines under the Amur River and it connects the Chinese gas pipeline going into Shanghai. And this just opened! Gas is flowing! They're gonna start with 38 billion cubic meters a year but they believe that they can crank that up to double that amount by 2025 So good work everybody Good work

1:55:43 Yeah, well you can blame the Democrats on this one. Because they've been trying to get Russia and the United States to peace. And not just Democrats it's Congress it's the whole kitten caboodle if If the good guys weren't involved in this one they're involved with something else that's the real message It's all shit Well the thing that happened in the 70s which when Nixon opened China The idea was to get China and Russia to split so they weren't allies in any real way. So we're supposed to be doing all this business with China, and now they're our buddies, and then we let that go a little too far. And it's always been the idea that you don't want China and Russia to be big time allies in case something, some kinetic war breaks out and those two guys are together.

1:56:39 It's pretty much impossible to beat them. Well, now they are literally connected and it looks like about 10% of China's natural gas requirements are now being provided by Russia I'm sure we didn't have... was that on the Democracy Now cover that or the News Hour? Or did anyone bother to look at the implications of that? Let me think Don't hurt your brain No, of course not Well, it's a bad situation. Yeah and I would still blame Pelosi. You got anything else on the impeachment stuff?

1:57:21 I don't really have a lot. Let me take a look at my list... Oh, you just hit your bell! Well while you're looking, someone sent this to me. Whenever Rudy Giuliani is on TV and we've been programmed like there's that bumbling fool but of course if you think about it in terms of how the president thinks of him as one of the greatest crime fighters of our time which has some validity When you hear him rambling, but kind of after we've gone through a year at least of a little more detail about what happened in Ukraine and then you know you hear what Giuliani was actually discussing with people it's short but it makes sense. I investigated all this

1:58:07 starting in November of 2018 and I finished it by March 28, 2019. Now why is that significant? The Ukrainians brought me substantial evidence of Ukrainian collusion with Hillary Clinton the DNC George Soros's company they put it in my lap they came and gave me testimony this is under oath It's signed under penalties of perjury by Victor Shulkin. He is more than willing to come to America and testify before Congress, and point the finger at Joe Biden and his son... And basically support what the President said! It's no wonder that Saturday Night Live makes consistent fun of this guy. He's dangerous to a lot of people Yeah yeah he's got that- he's got the uh

1:58:51 He's got a hanging judge mentality within a district attorney's body. Or what's left of one, and he does not... And he likes to go after people. That's what he always does. Semi-ruthless according to people who have been involved with any of his targeting. Yes Okay well we'll see what happens I think they're making a mistake by attacking him Well, this has been non-stop. You're trying to get me thrown in jail! I do have the Pelosi clip of the weird accusations clip where she's just mumbling and bumbling...I don't know what the hell she's saying half the time which was part of the press conference only 32 second clip Our democracy is what is at stake The president leaves us no choice but to act because he is trying to corrupt once again the election for his own benefit

1:59:49 The president has engaged in abuse of power, undermining our national security and jeopardizing the integrity of our elections. His actions are in defiance of the vision of our founders and the oath of office that he takes to preserve protect and defend the Constitution of United States." She says she slips into stuff this these guys do this all the time they slip in little little gems And what she slipped in on that one was he's once again trying to corrupt the election. Yeah, once again as if he did already once but he didn't it was that Mueller report pretty much said he didn't but they keep hanging their hat on the Russian Mueller report nonsense and they just keep doing it They never let up well They have to because

2:00:44 Somewhere, it has to come back to the Ukraine's involvement with CrowdStrike and the server, which was the real ask that Trump had to do us a favor. Was about that so they have to continuously say... And that was just before I left for the lowlands it was That was the talking point was really? Really Ukraine?! That's Russian disinformation man! Don't you know this is disinformation? It has been debunked! It's a conspiracy theory its Russian disinformation So they have to keep that going and the only proof they have is by saying the entire intelligence community agrees No, it was really only one. It was really only the director of national intelligence who agreed The other 16 agencies actually said well we didn't really sign off on it like that But okay so they have to keep it going but I mean The timing of it is flabbergasting to me

2:01:47 I mean it also gives Trump so much time. A whole year, he could burn them all and then go into the election. That's stupid! It can only be panic moves. There is no rhyme or reason to how they're going about this. No, no there shouldn't be... yeah panic may be what's going on. It has to be. Podcasts are the best thing in the universe of course, if i can say that He's one of the inventors. Because you get people to say stuff on podcasts that are just fantastic, you never hear it on mainstream. Our friend The Mooch Anthony Scaramucci he has a podcast did you know he does his own podcast? I heard about this! About the podcast?! Yeah It's called Mooch and The Mrs. He does it with his wife which is very funny

2:02:54 And he brings in a guest, Dylan Howard. He is... Australian entertainment journalist, who is the vice president and chief content officer at American Media. He oversees Us Weekly, OK, Star, In Touch, Lifestyle, Closer, National Examiner, Radar Online, National Acquire... I mean The Globe. He is the ratmeister of all meisters And they're talking about Epstein. Epstein, murder or suicide? I've got to think murder yeah and and i do believe that he was acting as a foreign agent of a foreign government uh setting people up. I've actually seen photos inside his New York penthouse there is one room that is lined with

2:03:50 Industrial-sized Xerox machines next to it is a room that has a bunch of cameras screens So every room was being taped everything every person was being watched and listened to I believe he was acting as an agent of a foreign government in the classic honey trap system. When will those tapes come out, then? Someone has them then right? Doesn't the FBI have them? The FBI theoretically should have them so too should local authorities in Palm Beach County where we had a house In Florida there is a law called Sunshine Law which means that you can get access to every police record I sought those tapes Now according to the local authorities they don't exist

2:04:33 And as part of the book that's coming out in December called Epstein Dead Men Tell No Tales, we speak to a former Palm Beach police officer who now has asylum in Russia, who says that he's in possession of all of the Jeffrey Epstein tapes. The Palm Beach and New York or just the Palm Beach? Just Palm Beach. Oh there's got to be really salacious tapes then... You would imagine if what he says is true and that these tapes exist and they are encrypted and they're in Russia This guy fears for his life, that's why he's been given asylum. Well that means Vladimir Putin has those tapes! Exactly right. And so there could be some people on those tapes? I mean we see pictures of President Trump with them... One thing I can assure you is, I can say for certainty that MI5 is concerned that Prince Andrew is caught on tape and that those tapes are in the hands of the Russians. Kompromat!

2:05:34 Well, that would explain the bums rush Prince Andrew's been given after he tried to get himself out of a pickle by being on a couple of these interview shows. And then now the royal family has just shipped him to Siberia. Supposedly we should not hear from him again ever. Well I'm trying to see how I can word this...I got a note from one of our producers And this producer travels around the world and this producer was at a Miss contest of a different country, so not Miss America. Maybe one that would lead up to Universe and Prince Andrew was there

2:06:19 And he immediately tried to get rid of his security detail and was saying to the girls, hey you know... ...you can come and stay at Buckingham Palace with me. He was trying to hook up with him! No success because of course Guille Maxwell wasn't around to help him out But the Randy Andy thing I mean he's a sleaze The guy is a total douche bucket And so yeah, I think that's a you make a good point. It's like oh we got to get into We got really gotta clean up some tracks here. I just love that the mooch does that on this podcast? I mean it could be total fake news. I don't know and Like the tweet has been going around some woman who talked about

2:07:03 Gislaine Maxwell giving Clooney a blowjob. I was going to bring this up Tiffany Fitzhenry who does decent reporting She did random well not random, but she did a search for George Clooney on wiki leaks came up with What was she saying here? She came up with interesting results, what she thought was most interesting and wrote about it. I put the article in the show notes 276 global intelligence files that mentioned George Clooney by name 1,507 Sony emails that document and mention George Clooney. That's expected of course but there are 98 DNC emails 26 Podesta e-mails but this global intelligence which is Stratfor which is the spooks for hire outfit in Austin we got a lot of them 276 global intelligence files all and I've linked to it in the show notes It is quite fun to see

2:08:03 And the one that she's getting all the attention for is the one fight so it's not just a tweet. It's From the intelligence files I'll read it Ghislaine joked that maybe I should keep it open, and might find a suitable husband before I get any older Always the instigator of a good joke but unable to take on herself She didn't like it when poked back that it was her that it was more in her recent taste of mints and she loved to brag about her rendezvous with various lovers. Once she came back giddy as a schoolgirl, with an explosion of news with all the build-up and excitement! You'd think she was the next crown princess she was so excited but... She had actually given George Clooney a blowjob in the bathroom at some random event. She never let that one down."

2:08:55 So you take Clooney with his satellite, you take Clooney with all the things he's doing. We've been saying it on this show for years. George Clooney is a spy! Now there's a sentence that needs a bit of qualification... Wow I've never even heard the original for that? I thought i was playing The Jingle. Did we lose The Jingle? I don't know what do you mean we Damn it! This is what I meant. George Clooney, George Clooney, George Clooney... ...is a spy. Big build-up. Big fail. Way to go Curry. Dammit So yeah Tiffany Fitzhenry she's pretty interesting

2:09:46 Yeah, well this of course is another story that's going to go into the dumper because it doesn't have enough to do with Trump. Exactly! More Trump! And we do have a few people to thank for show 1197 and we will thank them now starting with Eric For ours, ours Joe I guess or as I can't Swedish is in Stockholm. Let me see $199 99 since we're gonna bump him up you're gonna make him Associate Exec yeah because it seems that's like a just like a like a currency conversion thing Yes What looks like to me? Okay dude named Ralph comes in right after that at one hundred twenty seven dollars and forty-one cents from Miami Florida

2:10:47 Colin Preston, $127.41, no jingles no karma Tim Esau, Esau, Esau you know we had a politician with that last name I think it's Essow, Essow and Tiggert he is over there with the granite duke in Oregon yeah $123.45 on he's also in local 33 which This is I don't know what this is local 33 donation swap for credit to another like 30. Okay? Yeah, hold on a second This is where I knew I knew this would fail damn it hold on What's the okay the this was they did a meetup and they did donation swap But then it this see this is what so confusing because I think they did that on-the-spot

2:11:46 And then they, the way that... The idea was that I asked about it. I got an email. The donation swap is everyone donated money they threw into a bucket and they pulled it out And then, so you might have done $10. You could get five or you could get 50 that was kind of their Christmas secret Santa idea which was interesting but I thought it was all going to come in as one donation and now i see its already been split up So...You gotta be careful when your doing- and thats..its I don't care! Its just I wanted people to get credit properly and its not going to work this way if someone then sends in their swap Ya know what I mean? Not really Yeah okay

2:12:27 But all right, we'll just we'll just read it as is and will I mean well deal with it. We'll deal with it Yeah It will be fixed with a memo Somehow syrups next and he's up which yet in Seattle Washington hundred two dollars and fifty cents He's calling the flu donation since they have the flu Temperatures are into oh Oh 45 sorry No one I don't think that's gonna catch on Juan Francisco Lara Maya. I don't know, he needs jobs karma give it to him at the end of $100 from him thanks one Baron Walkman a Buckeye 8008 sir hashtag in Yarmouth Maine 74 Cassidy Eastwood 6667 Brian Pearson 6666 Aaron

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2:14:10 I used to have that as a regular donation. Hans Lux in Brooklyn... Now, Hans says thanks for the fantastic show two Thursday's a week my friend Joe Arco tried to hit me in the mouth years ago I finally gave him this August now I'm out here swinging wildly hoping he'd get a few more of my wake oh so it was not a de-douching and besides you didn't ask for it okay thank You Hans swing away in Brooklyn $50.33 from Hans Sir Sage of Whiskey Flats fifty dollars and one cent He's also the Baron of Minnesota, I think. Yeah well he would like to know...I think this was the email that went back and forth? He would like to know how to claim a protectorate? Ah! Which is a good question because people think that you have to do that and it's announced again or we're in charge of all that what I just I'm the producer stuff What are we doing with that yes Yes

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2:16:42 In just three shows it'll be our 1200th episode if we did a show every single day that would be What three and half years non-stop so and they don't even count the hours? But this experiment has been working. We've been keeping it together, we never had to drop a show, we were never able to go do a third show... ...We've just making the best damn podcast in the universe and we've done it with donations in our value for value model considering you producers and not listeners! You're producers. And that has been the idea This idea has been tried by many

2:17:24 We've looked at Sam Harris, who has an incredibly successful podcast. He says... I mean it's always number one two three somewhere in the charts whatever that means It's deemed a very successful podcast we saw him pivot from advertising based to donation-based you remember? We played it on the show! Sam Harris yep going to go to advertising Well they didn't work out so well for Sam And he made quite some blanket statements, and I would like to share them during this donation segment so that you can feel good about what you've been doing with your production. Okay, so I have an announcement to make about a change to the podcast going forward. As most of you know the show has relied on audience support for several years ever since i realized i was allergic to running ads but it's finally become clear to me that the support model is broken

2:18:21 Probably in principle the ad model is also broken but for very different reasons first Let me say that those of you who've been supporting the podcast are total heroes You're the reason why I've been able to grow it into the platform. It's become so I want to thank you for that I consider myself extraordinarily lucky To have you and I doubt there's a podcaster out there For whom the support model has worked John has it been working for you? Well, it works for us. It works for Jen Briney Yeah and works for the Grimerica guys And the Grimerica guy's that work for a number of podcasters if you do it correctly Yes Better But is still isn't working in way I'd hoped The percentage people who support this show has never climbed beyond single digits and now have several years data on this This is fantastic Never climb out of single digit Dude You should be lucky if its 2%

2:19:16 If it's 2% you're lucky. Does this guy, what does he think? What does he think? He doesn't have any experience in the field obviously. He says he has several years in the field but... But he is just going by his own way and doesn't do any research. You should know that two percent is a huge number If you can get to it, I guess if your audience is only a thousand people. You know 2% is what? 20 people are supporting the show that's still for 1000 people you get twenty people small churches that have a congregation size of perhaps A thousand to two thousand people do very well for themselves. Well, but they're also guilted right there in front of everybody to put money into the basket. That would be nice if we could do that... If we could come to your house, we would! ...has never climbed beyond the single digits and I now have several years of data on this There seems to be some law of behavioral economics at work here

2:20:14 I mean, seriously. Do five seconds of Googling! So those of you who have supported the show are true outliers and that's awesome but the psychological reality is that we've all grown used to an internet that is almost entirely subsidized by ads And the negative effects of the ad model are now legion It has undermined our politics it has nearly destroyed journalism it has given us clickbait and insane privacy violations and cancel culture It is true to say that almost everything that is wrong with our digital lives and much that's now wrong with our society can be traced to this business model. I agree with him there, that's totally all on board with that And of course have talked about this in several episodes of the podcast

2:20:56 and the problem isn't going away anytime soon. And one insidious consequence of the ad model that is especially relevant here, is that it has anchored everyone to the expectation that most digital content should be free or nearly free. See I think this where he's just wrong you know? Not everybody thinks the way you do. It's not true, there is legion people out there forever and every content creator who tries to build a business without ads feels this force of gravity John do you feel the gravity? Do you feel it bringing you down? Well that's probably from sitting in this squeaky chair and not because of the...

2:21:39 anything else, pulling everything down to zero. And I can now say from experience that even real success down this path terminates in a broken business model No, it's not broken. So I'm changing the model here We go can if you if you start with a broken sit with a broken idea and you do it half-assed Exactly tree on what was he doing? I don't know but he's good He has yes explains the details of how much he actually brought in now Of course not where is now didn't do it right But he has a solution which is the shittiest ever path Terminates any broken business model so I'm changing the model

2:22:17 and turning the Making Sense podcast into a subscription service. For non-subscribers, beginning with this episode... All episodes of the podcast will be half episodes so non-subscribers will get the first part of the conversation but they won't get the second And the first part won't be edited in a way that makes it seem sufficient It won't be sufficient The point is that if you really care about listening to this podcast You'll need to subscribe through my website No I gave him 18 months before he's running ads again Now, a couple of things about that idea. First of all, it introduces information that only some people receive but always gets referred to. Yes. This is problematic. Very problematic. You know so you're talking about something and then and it also causes a problem especially with the two of us where did we talk about in the second half? Is that a second half information thing? I can't even remember what day or week it is! Yeah as proven earlier

2:23:16 Now, that model would work and we've never done it but it would work on the DHM Plug Show for the stock picks. Yeah, that's a different kind of show. Yeah and you could do stock picks that you had to pay to listen too. Right And that would make sense and you know we just never implemented that idea but it would make sense there But does it makes sense in information pure information show Like this or any other anybody so including especially his and it becomes exclusive which really annoys Oh, but you know what the mistake is So let's say he I'll be really I'll be very generous. Let's say he has 3% He said the single digits, so I don't know. Well just say fuck doesn't matter five

2:24:00 5% are your producers. So now you're going to cut off everybody else so 95 percent of the people who were listening could have been potential supporters, can hit people in the mouth, can give you ideas, can give you feedback he is just saying F you! You don't count Although he, and I didn't clip this. He said if you can afford it send me an email we'll give you a year for free like he's a pharmaceutical company or something Yeah that's very patronizing Insulting yeah Well good luck with that

2:24:40 I don't know, we could talk about this kind of thing forever but i think we should maybe move on to some interesting topics like for example... Well I have a nighting and then we have a meetup report. Right? We got some- we actually have business to do. We do have some business to do that so anyway my point was thank you very much for sticking with the model because it is working for us. Look, we're not driving Ferraris! We don't buy houses in Beverly Hills I think he has a nice house but you know we're doing a show with you and we're happy about it and please support us for the next one which will be just only three more to go before episode 1200!

2:25:20 Alright, I have two nightings here. We don't have any birthdays which is interesting No doesn't happen very often that we have zero birthdays also we have no title changes But we do need I thought I saw a birthday in there somewhere. No no I got no birthday in the spreadsheet Or in the email, I'm not sure. No because it would have been yellow on the spreadsheet which i don't see and... Yeah no this is not on the spreadsheet but.. No there's nothing in the email either. Well if there's one we'll make good We absolutely will but for now let's get some knights up here hello do you have a blade? yeah got a big one! I got da big one! Is that a big blade or are you just happy to see me?

2:26:04 Yossi and John Foley both of you stepping up here gentlemen. You two are about to be inducted into that club It is the Club of the no agenda Knights and Danes we sit here at the round table We have all kinds of goodies to to munch on so to speak And I hereby am very proud for your contribution in $1,000 or more to the NOA Agenda Show. To pronuncicate you Sir Paul Knight of the Command Line and Sir Joe Faux The Plundering Knight! Gentlemen we've got hookers & blow, rent boys and chardonnay We have coffee and baileys with cookies and vodka We got pogs & poy, rabbit meat and goat milk Cowgirls and coffin barners Breastmilk and pap'ems, ginger ale and gerbils Bongets and bourbon and of course mutton and mead

2:26:46 If you just go to noagendanation.com slash rings Eric the shield will take your information We'll get those rings out to these are real signet rings You get sealing wax and of course certificate and you can send official knowage in the nation correspondence And eventually, you can get your peerage and get your claim your protectorate when you get up to the Baron status And thank you again for supporting your podcast the best podcast in the universe All right meetups it's like a little party This is where the human resources of get more nation come together and Have human interaction at a basic level and it works extremely well people enjoy you heard it earlier in our first segment And I need to immediately tell you off the bat that the Austin no agenda local 512

2:27:39 Meetup is happening today at two o'clock, which I don't the show will barely be over by then And this will be a Doc's backyard in Sunset Valley Yes, Sunday today at 2 o'clock. That's rather early! Then we have tomorrow... what? The 10th which is Tuesday the Hamburg Douchebags meet up in Hamburg Germany at the Barley and Malt at 7 o'clock Fab OTG as your host Wednesday No Agenda Local BBQ run Upper Peninsula Michigan 630 Eastern 630 Eastern hmm

2:28:17 Don't know if that's Eastern, but it says 630 check no agenda meetups calm for sure there and of Upper Peninsula is hosting that a Dickies barbecue in Plymouth Thursday Myrtle Beach Christmas Meetup 7 o'clock at the you see rusty Jones be doing that make sure you check Noah Jenna meet ups comm for the venue and Saturday the NOA agenda Central Texas meat shoot Oh boy, this is the one. This is where Scott and me shoot? Yes they're going shooting at the Lone Star gun range right outside of Lockhart Texas Come rain, snow or shine. More details at noagendameetups.com Sir Scott Baronette of the No Agenda Armory is organizing that Also on Saturday the 14th the Eastern North Carolina Shills They will be at the Cleveland Draft House in Garner North Carolina The NO AGENDA Central Florida bi-monthly meetup number three six o'clock a deadly since brewing in Winter Park

2:29:15 And that's it for the... Oh, no wait. Also the 19th? My goodness! The Charleston, South Carolina holiday time meet up 5.30 and that will be at Edmunds Cast Brewing Company in the Valley of the Sun Slaves in Scottsdale Arizona five o'clock on the 20th still coming January 3rd Amsterdam January 9th Beirut Lebanon this is a real meetup Jesse Coy Nelson as it turns out who does a lot of our No Agenda End Of Show mixes Is a traveling teacher He has been in Korea for the past couple of months and he still does a mix almost every show. Yeah, he's doing Beirut and he says a couple more coming up some of the more interesting places so we'll give you details as they come along noagendameetups.com Also 25th January Moscow Russia Mokba! That'd be great Wouldn't you just want to go that? Just like holy crap it would be so nice

2:30:19 Thank you to... it was Joe Fo. who just got knighted. He was, I think he organized the FurFest No Agenda Meetup? There are pictures and video available. The first annual Midwest furry no agenda meet up was a rousing success top-notch media deconstruction mixed with drunk sweaty dudes named Ben dry humping in sexual animal costumes it's a deadly combination birds of a feather truly flock together the meet up was small but fierce we had two normies from Chicago That's like you and I John. And four furries from all over the states, from North Carolina to California Well, I knew what I was getting at So we have in the furry convention which is obviously why they were there from North Carolina They weren't there for the meetup. There are meetups closer mm-hmm They were furry so we have a furry I guess contingent

2:31:17 No agenda producers. We see their furries yes, we certainly do and that's great in there furry Outfits are beautiful furry outfits herb yeah? I mean this is some high-class stuff Looks really good And of course there's videos of them dry humping each other. I mean, you know... I had to suggest that they have sex in these outfits at the Millennials' dinner table and everybody knows about the furries and they all got gassed saying they would never risk any bodily fluids on this costume! That i can believe actually! This is high end stuff very high end

2:31:59 That would be probably a great convention to go to, especially if they don't mind having their picture taken. I understand at the bar they met that the bartender would not allow any of the furries keep their heads on those... I didn't hear that part! ...squirrel heads and dog heads. Oh really? Oh well that sucks. Yeah, they had to take those off. No fun. Anyway A good time was had by all. Photos of that, once again are in the show notes at the bottom of the show notes page you'll find them NA Chicago for a meetup photos and videos and thank you everybody for doing these meetups it means great deal to everyone who participates and it seems like its I mean what podcasts have this where the listeners just producers just go hang out with each other

2:32:50 and talk about stuff that they're interested in across all boundaries of race, color, creed religion age and have a good time. And the hosts don't even show up! This is the best idea we've ever had Dvorak! The host doesn't show up... The best idea I've ever had thank you. Well I like to show once in awhile Noagendameetups.com yeah it's Saturday I'm going to the shoot I'm going to the meet-shoot Oh good go do some shooting Of course gotta get to do some shootin', we're in Texas No agenda meetups calm and of course Dvorak org slash innate to support your podcast the best podcast in universe according to the Mueller report and fans of The Drudge Report after it was sold now To jump to something a little weirder We're weirder than meet-ups with furries. Okay, I'm all ears You remember that first what was the first? The first school shooting that kind of triggered a fad of school shootings that you remember

2:33:52 Well, I guess Columbine would be the most obvious. Yeah, yeah. Columbine. Well, Columbine was predated And it's to an event that got no credit, even though it was horrible. No credit as the best ever? The first ever Le Premier? Not the best ever but no credit as the progenitor of all the rest of these shootings Oh okay It was the original, the OG school shooting Wait a minute! Didn't we have Dunblane which was in England, UK where Boomtown Rats made this song I Don't Like Mondays wasn't that one of the OG

2:34:32 Well, we're talking about North America. Oh I'm sorry okay and it was in 1989 mm-hmm It was in Canada oh at the l'école polytechnique which is a school of pyrotechnic. Specifically a femicide. I'm sorry a fem... killing girls women? Yeah only! I've never heard of this term but I could figure it out a femicide Femicide yeah Now, let's play this because most Americans don't know about this. And even the Canadians can seem to this day come to grips with it even though we're what at a 30 year anniversary if you want to call it that of this event which took place in 1989 and not... Columbine was 1999. It was 10 years later. So let's play these clips

2:35:21 This is I am told the worst shooting disaster in Canadian history third worst in North American history December 6th 1989 The day before midterm exams at École Polytechnique in Montreal. Just before 5 p.m., Marc Lepin walked into the engineering school with a semi-automatic rifle. Within 20 minutes, he murdered 14 women. That's Nathalie Prevost one of the survivors of the Polytechnic Montreal massacre. He came into class He shot in the wall just behind me. He yelled at the guy that they have to leave the classroom, nine women all together in a corner of the room he told us that we were there because we were feminists and I answered him back that we are not feminist and if you want to study at Polytechnique it can come with us and then he shot

2:36:17 pretty loud, it's awful and you see I saw the eyes of a colleague die and then you know that you will die. You're the next one, and it takes a second. And then you are on the floor, and it's finished." Nine people were shot in that classroom. Six died — all women. Over the next 15 minutes eight more people were killed — all of them women What followed the shooting was utter chaos. Emergency responders didn't really know what to do as this was one of the first active shooters in Quebec and one of the first school shootings in North America You know I love when you Do something like this at the end of the show it really makes me want to come back To this program, to this incredibly depressing show

2:37:08 The music was spot-on too. So what was this guy? What was the deal with this guy? The guy hated women, well he was a misogynist because he ended up dead but you don't know because they never got to grill him But he goes into classes and says okay all of you guys, all the men out Wow! He separated them gee And made them leave and then started gunning down the women I know nothing about this. This is great, it's not great but... No it's not great but something we should know about the Canadians they didn't know how to deal with it the cops took half an hour to get there and what? Oh you mean they weren't doing a drill nearby for this exact scenario? Apparently not! They have a lot to learn

2:37:52 But the whole thing was, and they didn't cut the writers and the reporters. And they talked about one in the next clip on The National refused to even bring up this sexual aspect to it that it was a femicide. The guy was killing women only. And he was making sure the guys were safe There were a number of miscommunications and delays for first responders to actually get on the scene. Police only entered the building when they got word the suspect had taken his own life, nearly 25 minutes after the first 911 call. The coroner's report called the disaster plan poorly defined and the operation as a whole suffered as a result. The media was also unsure how to handle this situation. When he came out and said that there were a dozen students

2:38:41 The reporters just all got real quiet. You don't very often see reporters get quiet, but nobody said much after that." The coverage following the massacre often excluded the word feminist unless to quote the killer. It was portrayed as an individual situation — a lone gunman spun out of control. We were sent out to try to find out why the murderer would have done this. What must have happened in his childhood or background that made him commit an act of violence? You do what you're told, but at the same time there was no reflection on would we cover the violence against woman angle because that seemed beside the point

2:39:25 I was watching the National and the late Barbara Frum was doing a special on this. And you could see, on a national scale that she too was trying to not make it about violence against women But isn't the crime the brutality? against this particular group, it could have been another group. Would we be having vigils for every group? If it was 14 men would we be having vigils? Isn't violence the monstrosity here?" Ma Tlipin's motive could not have been more clear. He said in the classroom as well as his suicide note

2:40:05 But it would still take decades to call it what it was, Canada's first mass femicide. Globally as a society imagining that one of our boy can kill 14 of our girls It's so hard to conceive, it is so hard to accept. It is to see a big flaw in our society So I don't agree but I understand why people in charge wanted to diminish the division between men and women

2:40:43 We have some Kando trolls in the troll room and they're pointing to a lot of things. Is there is there a gun control thing that just came out about this? And this is why it's in the news again or is this just a throwback? It was because it was on December 6th, two days ago 30 years ago Now, there's no...in fact the gun control was in play in Canada during this little episode and that's one of the things that makes it like you don't hear about it because well we got all these gun control laws here in Canada. And meanwhile this happens. So what I'm reading is that Trudeau unveils new gun control platform while measures from 2015 are still not enforced?

2:41:24 So is that how we celebrated on December 6 with a new gun control? This just came back. This was an obscure hmm it did not really show up as a As a major anything by I don't remember Trudeau mentioning and maybe he did but it's a yeah It is a good thing you could leverage, you know If you got if you're working on gun control, I'm surprised that hasn't been leveraged by the Americans Yeah this seems to be the og The OG incident. Yeah, in the Americas Wow North America Well that's very depressing Thanks John this great you're welcome I try to keep the show lively I am I do have some I have I have I have the antidote Oh God Okay Nutty Biden rambling

2:42:14 Like we haven't seen enough of that all week. 1.2 billion! So you go ahead and stack spaghetti sauce at a store, in the supermarket You control the guy or woman who runs the... brings out the carts on a forklift What happened? Ladies and gentlemen The next president of United States of America It's actually not much worse than Trump It's just Trump has, you know it's funnier. It's funnier! Oh my goodness... I think it's funnier than Trump, I agree now Biden was in Iowa and that is where he said that little speech but I do have the thing we Iowa farmer versus Biden Now do we really need to do this? Is there anything new in this

2:43:01 Well you've seen it then. Yeah, oh yeah! It's everywhere. He's calling the guy hey sit down fats and it's not true and shut up... And its again with this microphone? Is that the one? Hey fats sit down my son is absolutely no proof of my son doing that They were playing that on Democracy Now. So I do have the third clip from that little ditty, which I call The Bad Segway. Oh okay! Now this is...I want you to listen to this. She's going from the Biden story that you just ridiculed where Biden and this guy get into a beef she goes from there and cuts into another story normally she does it two about one second about three beat

2:43:47 pause between her stories, but once in a while she just reads from one story to the other making it sound like the same story. And this is an example. And that was former Vice President Joe Biden lashing out at the town hall in Iowa Thursday The Pentagon's considering sending thousands more troops to the Middle East to counter Iran. The Wall Street Journal reports up to 14 thousand US troops could be... Stop I gotta hear that again! That was great The Pentagon's considering sending thousands. Wait, I gotta go back. And that was former Vice President Joe Biden lashing out at the town hall in Iowa Thursday. The Pentagon is considering sending thousands more troops to Iowa and the Middle East account. That was good. That was good. I liked it. I did note that she uses the term which i thought was reserved for Trump

2:44:44 But she is, the Democracy Now! show is on board with Elizabeth Warren I think. Oh wow And so she uses the term reserve for Trump where Biden now lashes out Lashes out yeah hmm well it's Amy who knows we don't have an end of show ISO I just realized this is a problem Well you've got classics I think stop to hammering always works Let's listen to it since we want me to lighten it up. I got my last clip, okay? Thank you buddy second part is optional so Katie Hopkins

2:45:22 is the kind of the right wing commentator used to be on LBC and she's floating around. She's a big Trump supporter. She's on Fox, don't I see her on Fox sometimes? She comes on Fox once in awhile and she lambastes people. She's actually a good radio personality because she's just over the top nuts so she's giving a speech to some conservative group And I was watching her do this. She has the thing written down, she's writing this down but she apparently hires some joke writers. Oh god okay and i think you know she does a credible job and i think anyone who does public speaking should find some joke writers and maybe do your material like this My name is Katie Hopkins, I am a straight

2:46:07 white, Christian, conservative married mother of three small children under 15 and I'm proud to be all of those things. People who know me know that most of my Muslim friends have fifteen children under the age of three! I'm kidding, I don't have Muslim friends. I've had two husbands so far I like to call lovely Mark my current husband, keep him on his toes. I guess i'm a bit like Ilhan Omar except that never married my brother. I did try proposing to Donald Jr earlier as well... I think I could be so much better for him than Kimberly After all I've never dated a Democrat unlike some

2:47:07 Well, she goes on well I didn't get that one Kimberly Guilfoyle was married to for Gavin Newsom. Oh Okay, of course well these are pretty good she delivers it's not bad It's not bad but then she goes great. But it's good. It's not okay She's a radio person Almost as bad as a podcaster yeah and she's probably a podcaster now But, you know it's... Well actually I think didn't she lose some lawsuit? I was reading about this. Yeah. Oh that could be a win-surprise. She slandered her lawsuit for 500 million pounds and she had to sell her house

2:47:52 Oh, well then she should have... The podcast joke is not that funny. It's not funny at all! Well she does do a nice slam here on somebody else I'm kind of like wow this is interesting I guess there was a contingent of people in the UK that hate a certain somebody. The moral of my first marriage ladies and gentlemen is do not marry a man that looks like Matt Schlapp Too much hair. That much hair is not natural, he looks like something that came out of the forest and I'm glad to see that so many ladies here have gone for a much more aerodynamic husband in the head department Not gesturing at you sir but i'm definitely gesturing at you

2:48:37 It's good to laugh, isn't it? I mean really. I've come to realise that we lived in such utterly mad times that sometimes our best defence is truly just laughter and its one of the ways I think the Republicans are going to win this war is through our sense of humour because Democrats are not blessed in this department Look at Meghan Markle Hmm, thank you very much for that gift America Truly you really export really the best Take half of Mexico. What do we get Meghan Markle? Yeah, there's not a lot of love for Meghan Markle in in the UK either Everyone still really confused about her

2:49:33 Whatever. Well, thanks that was okay. That's the best I can do it. Oh no It was a 1989 femicide yeah now that was great Thanks all right be sure to check those listening stats see who chopped out after that and if they did their fools because we have a fantastic end of show mix lineup with Jesse Coy Nelson talked about him earlier Lowlands Jasper, Secret Agent Paul returns with a professional new song that'll be up first. We have Tom Starkweather and of course as promised the Nothing Like A Dame song so we're loaded for bear! And I will be flying back tomorrow so i'll be back for the Thursday show looking forward to that as we get closer to episode 1200

2:50:22 Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA and coming up next on NoAgendaStream.com, Hog Story number 53 Trade with the Hospital Sir John Fletcher and Dame Carolyn Blaney And I could say in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley I am John C. Dvorak We return on Thursday right here on NO Agenda on the stream on the podcast Until then, I am coming to you from just parallel runway 27 Amsterdam Schiphol Airport. We'll see you adios mofos! And such. Oh what a circus oh what a show America's gone to town Over the votes for the vote for the impeachment of Trump Never gone crazy

2:51:26 Mourning all day and mourning all night, Foiling over themselves to get all of the hysteria right. He had his detractors he had his fans If you want to go out in style Demand to be impeached like Donald J Trump It's good for ratings As soon as the final gavel falls They'll all realize their worst fears He'll get another eight years But who is this Nancy Pelosi? While there's constant hysterical doubting What kind of power does he have on her How will she ever

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2:53:15 Quietly dripping out. People are flushing toilets 10 times, 15 times as opposed to once. They end up using more water. The problem is people that don't have a lot of money and so higher taxes should have a bigger impact on their behavior and how they deal with themselves in a political system which is corrupt. So don't mess with me when it comes to words like that. Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself. He's the roti, and don't you bug me no more, no more, no more!

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