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00:00 It's a nightmare. Thankful for all of Gitmo Nation's producers and broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 in the frontier of Austin, Texas. Capital of the drone star state In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where i am loving my Mint 19.2 I'm John C. DeBoer It's Quackpot & Buzzkill IN THE MORNING!!! It's it's our it's our biannual events ladies and gentlemen every two years Adam And John will try once again to install and live with Linux, and how are you doing? Well a couple of things one have you run MIT or I'm sorry yeah mint 9.8 Yes 19 point 2 I did and I had to install that and test it because its code name Tina exactly

01:03 Like that's a sign from the gods. I need to try this yes, I did try that bit worked out for if you had not answered correctly No, I knew this one yeah, I did I built the virtual machine installed it all hey It's still a little too heavy for what? I want what it was you're running it now What would not at this moment because they still have the Skype issue oh Yeah, of course couple of things I would recommend people who are gonna listen to this same as we do the following Go track down Ultimate Mint 19. Oh, okay It's on SourceForge and it's a 3 gigabyte install that includes about 100 apps all built in and all tuned Stuff is pretty complete these days isn't it?

01:51 Well, this particular ultimate mid-19 which is a year old. But they claim that whoever's doing it they claim that they will support it till 2023. It's the LTS yes? That's correct yeah and it's live so you can just boot from the CD ROM but It's unbelievably complete. I know it's got everything, it has got word processors, it has got everything... Once you figure out where all these apps are and then you realize they're all in the start menu You know what I've noticed? And I have my own Linux experiences over the past few days

02:31 that because of the historical culture of Linux, because it's open source allows for incredible customization on everything. I mean you can reset key shortcuts You can move stuff around and of course what this results in is a lot of preference panels And nothing...and you really got to learn it Because your like well It's like I'm using that clause mail. So we have preferences and preferences for this account, and then tools, then you have all this other stuff but once you figure it out it's quite enjoyable because you can actually make stuff work the way you want to work Well its old fashioned When I say old fashioned I mean in the sense of what you just described

03:23 That was never allowed by the Mac users. And they'd always go back and forth to the PC user, well we can do this we can do that and then pretty soon we could do it but no one would do it so it just all fell by the wayside and now Linux comes back with really that old-fashioned approach of You want to do this, you want to do that. It has probably too many competing settings and these are all kind of preset on the ultimate mint which I would recommend people start with that but another thing I ran into is these packaging operations first of all i found a Skype for this

04:03 I tested a Skype on Lubuntu. God, people are like what the hell these guys doing? I tested Skype on Lubuntu... We're off the deep end ladies and gentlemen! It was actually pretty good it didn't have any problems didn't have any issues sound was good at least on the test Skype service sounded right I should probably try this because Mint is supposed to be very amenable to Skype but I wanted to put it through a snap package Yes, yeah. And so there's these overheads so I'm looking into this you know what is the hell and then look up Snappy you know? Yeah it's a plug-in right? It's a package manager Oh okay yeah and then you can oh wait a minute yes okay snaps There's a bunch of these The problem that I find Linux it confusing because there's a million distros and they're all competing with each other I thought this was a great idea have a package manager that you just write code for that and then you could put on all the different distro

04:55 Well, kind of. The problem is the package managers went into competition with each other and there's like 20 of them! Yeah I know They all hate each other and this doesn't work with that, that doesn't work with this... I'm still kinda an apt-get guy That just.. by the way you don't even have to type dash get anymore Just apt That's what I've used historically. Yeah, I'm kind of intrigued by this there is app image and auto package and flat pack and zero install? No i don't know about that one Oh yeah there are a bunch of these things it's just a nightmare So what I realized... And I tried XFCE I tried the same Mint you have

05:39 And I'm gonna say, really like the minimal install Lubuntu. It does have the full office you know it's got your little players for audio and video and those kinds of things but really email in a web browser and no i don't need any other apps or do any photo stuff that that's all and it runs fast from the USB drive in a virtual machine Which is even more interesting. So there's another layer I can't wait to get it installed on the hard drive itself because then it'll really fly It's fast in fact, and some ways its and now I understand what the problem Is with all these you know like Windows but particularly the Mac made it so beautiful so easy Everything is smooth And that's what eating up all your resource not just that but your screen is eating up All the resources just all this

06:31 all this overhead and I really don't care. You know, the UI is just a scroll bar. That's what your resources are for Yeah! If I guess... Anyway that's your Linux update everybody thanks for tuning in to uh... Is there anyone left on the stream? Well happy Thanksgiving John Happy Thanksgiving to you and happy Thanksgiving everybody that's actually listening today we probably don't have a lot And we probably will have not a lot of downloads, but I want to thank everyone. Yes and now we need to do our traditional history of Thanksgiving which is the Noah's Gem History. Yes, yes! I've added something new to it. So look at over my you know the truth...I'm the Grinch of Thanksgiving and i just want to mention I'll read from an old blog post from 2005

07:28 I'm always amused by the cock and bull story about Thanksgiving, about pilgrims, maize, turkeys and Indians when the holiday stems from an Abe Lincoln proclamation at the behest of a magazine editor. The road to today's Thanksgiving has a rocky road in fact. And not sure when the baloney began about the pilgrims and the Indians actually took hold in folklore but I find it offensive that is taught in schools as fact I'm noticing this. It's considered fact by everyone! Now, did you hear Trumps version of... Oh no! You have a clip? Yeah well he did the history of the pardoning of the turkey which goes back to Lincoln and then of course that's my understanding is actually George Bush that really invented it. Well listen to this as we gather this week with loved ones across our beautiful land

08:21 We give thanks to God for the many gifts that he has bestowed upon us. Today we also come together to honor the beautiful feathered friend, The Noble Turkey and that's a beauty It said that Abraham Lincoln was the first president to spare a Thanksgiving turkey at the request of his son In 1947 President Harry Truman accepted the first annual national Thanksgiving turkey In the decades that followed, presidents from Kennedy to Reagan would show mercy to their birds. But it was George HW Bush who first issued an official pardon in keeping with that tradition today I will issue a pardon. Now did you see the pardon ceremony? I saw only the part where he went after the guys trying to impeach him Yeah i'll just play it out To a pair of very handsome birds butter

09:21 and his alternate, Bread. Would have been funny if he went Diamond & Silk That would have been really cool. That's true look at you Their names were chosen by the students of Harold Christian Academy in North Carolina Great state Thankfully bread and butter has been specially raised by the Jacksons to remain calm under any condition which will be very important because they've already received subpoenas to appear In Adam Schiff's basement on Thursday. Now listen to what he says, you know how whenever he is bitching about something during his campaign? During his rallies He'll say it's true! It's true and he does it here. He does the biggest lie that everyone knows is a lie. Spent on Thursday...it's true. It's true just says its' true Just so you know it's true Hundreds of people have. It seems the Democrats are accusing me Of being too soft on Turkey

10:19 But bread and butter, I should note that unlike previous witnesses you and I have actually met. It's very unusual in any event I expect this pardon will be a very popular one with the media After all, turkeys are closely related to vultures. I don't know if i like that line but there's a little truth to it. He is critiquing the writers room on the fly! Yeah he did! I don't know if I'd like that line... Hey you could have edited it earlier! Are these cold reading as jokes? Well just and I want to get back to Thanksgiving but I just have a short clip. He did this rally in Sunrise Florida

11:04 And he signaled something spectacular, which a number of producers caught. I was very surprised and I can't decipher it have a listen They like to try and demean always by saying well this or that let me tell you we're winning You smarter? You better looking your sharper, and they call themselves elite But if they're elite then with the super elite It's true They talk about these people that are elite, you know, that are running. I mean have you been watching these debates? What's elite about that call? What's elite?! There is nothing elite! But we're doing great We're gonna have a tremendous victory but when i have a perfect call think of it 33 what they get away with and don't forget Now explain this to me

12:06 He throws a code 33 in, in the middle of a sentence for no reason. It makes no sense? Listen again. What's elite?! There is nothing elite! But we're doing great We are going to have tremendous victory but when I have a perfect call think about it 33 what they get away with 33 what Wow, he's just throwing in the 33. You know the thing is it was so well done I didn't catch it the first time as we did We point out on this show endlessly yes you have to get some ones Because I wouldn't have caught that unless I'd clipped and then played it listen one more time yeah victory but when I have a Perfect call think of it 33 what they get away with and don't That's a magic number

12:58 I find it peculiar all of a sudden he throws in the 33 just a random blue random loose like I'm talking to you right now 33 and then you know, I've just Doesn't make any sense. Anyone would do that? Hmm unless there was a reason after the show I'm gonna have to just talk and talk and talk 33 and then throw 33 Maybe if we're saying something in reverse speech maybe I'll have to reverse it after the show listen I don't know. It's the, if I found extremely odd anyway back to Thanksgiving. Yes so Thanksgiving is a you know holiday was kind of created it was they did have some one dinner apparently in the 1600s with some Indians and

13:47 There's some cartoons about it. But it just propagated as some sort of a celebration that began back when, in fact, it was referring mostly to Thanksgiving for the soldiers who weren't killed in one of these wars especially the Civil War and then became promoted by some busy bodies in the 30s and 40s. It became a tradition after awhile. It was more of a patriotic thing around the turn of the century and I put couple pictures in the newsletter showing this There was a lot of flag waving and stuff that goes on. It's been kind of, that's been kind of denigrated and now we want it... there's even talk of this thing called Friendsgiving. Well you made a very good point in the newsletter as I was reflecting upon that The transition from Thanksgiving to Friendsgiving is perhaps part of really a globalist movement. I mean its not much different than

14:44 trying to diminish and really get rid of the Dutch tradition of the Black Pete's. Christopher Columbus, it used to be a big deal particularly with some immigrant groups now he's a racist and you know it's Indigenous Peoples Day... Murderer, torturer, slaver. It appears more to be a global push to just remove any national traditions that you may have because we're, you know... We are the world. We are the children. We're all one global family And this has to go, and the Friendsgiving it really removes at least the original idea of hey you know we went through some hardships. We almost died and we made it. We came out the other end and here's this great country which is true or not doesn't matter that's the story like Santa Claus isn't real either

15:38 But we still have traditions and stories and stuff, and there's a meaning behind it. And the whole idea of thanksfulness... but it's the wrong part! It should be... you can't even do it that way. I mean Thanksgiving is your giving thanks, and what are you giving thanks for? Well, stuff in your own life And like today, if today were Friendsgiving it would be...it wouldn't make sense for me to say I'm really thankful that my dad passed away yesterday. So I'm thankful that he literally passed away you know? He slipped away and I'm thankful he was my dad. Friendsgiving couldn't even mention it. I didn't know that about your Dad! Well sorry for your loss. You never see him but how long did he live? He was 80

16:29 I'm very happy. Yeah, I'm very happy that I saw him a couple months ago when I on one of my trips yeah No, I saw him and I hadn't seen him in years because he was the last ten He was in a home and the last three he was nice toast quite from what? I understand quite the character Well, I have a lot of his humor is timing. I look in the mirror and like oh man. I look like him too damn it Oh At least, but he had all his hair. You know kept his hair. But back to your point yes there's a friend and in other news It was friends giving I'm disappointed you didn't say love and light that would have made me feel a little better I never say that because for some reason they can pull it off um

17:10 Yes, I wouldn't be able to say thanks for anything. But you know what's going to happen is they're gonna reverse engineer this into some sort of an international harvest festival So it's a harvest fest. Well, let's see how that goes...not that I have a clip but following on with the Dutch the Germans and the French farmers are now blocking highways all over Western Europe with their tractors because they're done with it! They're done with all of this there may not be a harvest anymore

17:47 Well, I don't know what's going on with it because every tractor in France apparently is on one of the freeways in Paris. What do you mean? Have you seen those pictures? There are thousands and thousands of tractors! Those things should be out killing! Germany had eight-and-a-half thousand tractors I mean it's fantastic the farmers are revolting. It is a farmers revolt and no one is paying any attention to it! We are... Okay, you're right but turn on the news and tell me you see one story about this? Oh that's ridiculous Trump Trump Trump Trump impeachment Trump Trump Trump impeach But even in those countries themselves it'll be front page for a minute

18:33 And then, okay it's done. And then as if it didn't happen? Well back to Thanksgiving... Yes I just had the one final thing Every year I report something about the bogusness of the whole thing which because I'm playing into this whole globalist notion by doing this report but I got another new twist to it and I don't know how I ran into this I started looking at because we have turkeys all over town and looking at, by the way the wild turkeys out of Florida. Oh my God are those things got their biggest tail display it looks like a wicker basket is dynamite OCO's or whatever they're called so I got into reading too much about turkeys and it turns out because this was brought up at our dinner table a number of times and I think I've heard it maybe it's even taught in schools is that Ben Franklin wanted the turkey to be the national bird rather than the eagle yes I've heard this story

19:30 Total bull crap. Well, Ben Franklin also flew a kite in the storm and got electrocuted so... Well that could be bull crap too but this is total bull crap and it was created and it actually became thing in schools around 1962 It was an ad agency thing tell me it wasn't an ad agency No it's cover of New Yorker magazine where they made Turkey and then they related to story and this story go into vogue And it became like a, it just became folklore that became a truth which is a real problem in this country and everywhere around the world where something.

20:06 Somebody passes out, would that make sense? Oh yeah frankly he'd be that kind of guy. And they had a letter from him to his daughter or somebody and he's moaning and groaning about the bald eagle being who he thinks is a chicken shit bird because it steals from other birds, doesn't do its own work. He goes on and on about this and then casually says you know the turkey would be a better bird at least its an honest bird But that was about as far as you went with it. They never protested the establishment. Oh, but OK so well then it was like a New York Times of the day because that's what they do draw conclusion

20:43 Yeah. Offer some facts. The conclusion was drawn that Turkey emblem on the seal is put on the cover of a 1962 New Yorker and the rest is history all of a sudden this is a fact, it's not... Well Snopes should have a debunking of that It should be very clear Fact check false There's another one there's a second myth tied to the alterations President Truman made to the presidential seal It sometimes said that the eagle on the presidential seal changes during times of war to face the arrows instead of the olive branch. This one is unquestionably false, although somewhat understandable from 1916 to 45 The Eagle didn't face the arrows a version that can still be seen on the Resolute desk but it was changed when Truman issued executive order 9-646 modifying the seal so that The Eagle faced an olive branch a gesture symbolic of the post war nation's dedication to peace

21:41 Huh, yeah we're full of information on this show The turkey thing has got to go to that's it. That's oh It's gonna be a problem You know there's this new movie out in which I don't think it's gonna be in theaters even but its James Cameron aren't Arnold Schwarzenegger Like a whole slew of big names and it's called game changers And you know, you can host a viewing and it's the whole movement. I haven't quite figured out who is behind it but It's something of the day and...and.. You know? I'm sure this will include Turkey by next year.

22:25 I ate a lot of meat. They show this commercials, steak that's what a man eats selling that idea that real men eat meat serious man food but you got to understand it's marketing that's not based in reality I've been teaching fighting techniques to government agencies for more than 15 years. Then, i got injured Unable to teach for at least six months, I spent more than a thousand hours studying science on recovery and nutrition And stumbled across the study about the Roman gladiators The gladiators were predominantly vegetarian How could be original professional fighters be so powerful eating only plants?

23:07 When I made the switch to a plant-based diet, I qualified for my third Olympic team. I broke two American records. I was like man! I should have done this a long while ago When I went plant-based, I wasn't sure if I was going to survive. And I actually became like a machine. One of the biggest misconceptions in sports nutrition is that we have to have animal protein to perform at a high level. That's just not true. Someone asked me how could you get as strong as an ox without eating any meat? And my answer was, Have you ever seen an ox eating meat?

23:49 There you go. It's a game changer, man! Plant-based all the cool guys are doing it Yeah I saw...I was... Jay had been turned on to this video and she said you gotta watch this Did you? I watched as much as I could Well as you saw obviously the problem with it is that it just At some point, it's like okay I get your point. And you just get sick of it. It's almost like they're insecure about their point. Yes there are plenty of athletes who are vegetarians that do very well and they have a very generally speaking not something you can do when you're growing up or is not something necessarily that you can do for example we have

24:42 I know people that have dogs, that put on a vegetarian diet. The dogs have all kinds of health problems and die early. Dogs die! Yeah you can't do that. That's inherently wrong. And cats they have vegetarian cats or you could feed them... We had we had a story about where the veterinarians were saying no you can't do that You can't put your... these animals need some They'd have a particular diet. You can't make them plant-based only And they don't talk about that in the show. And Schwarzenegger is disingenuous, because he was a big monster bodybuilder. He was not a vegetarian. I mean there are vegetarian athletes who didn't perform as well or were subject to all kinds of weird injuries you get but yeah if your

25:32 conscientious, you know what to do and how to eat and get all the right amino acids in everything in your diet through plants. You can do that with a lot of sesame seeds. Fine! You go out and eat that way be that way so what? What difference does it make? It doesn't make any difference to me. No but I don't get the point...what was the point of this exercise? Well the point is from my perspective It's working. This is indoctrination and it's without a doubt agenda 21 driven, you know? It's the impossible meat... Which costs more than real meat! Oh yeah! Does anybody find that to be disturbing?! And it has a bunch of calories! It's not like the burger is calorie free! Yeah, a lot of calories and all kinds of chemicals. You might as well be eating Soylent Blue or Green. No, Soylent Green is people man!

26:23 You know, one day if... and we should be careful. Dogs will turn on us eventually people don't understand this you know already with it and this is all part of the same thing you know dogs are people too and boy we tell them what to eat and we tell them when to go to the bathroom when are they gonna turn on us? When you're going to eat your own meat I'm gonna eat you! And i just learned that cats Technically, by European law... this is big news now in the EU. Cats in Europe by EU law and this was all written up in the Journal of Environmental Law are not allowed to be outside untethered you were not allowed to have an outdoor cat in the European Union because they are a danger to almost 370 different types of animals

27:15 Yeah, including bubonic plague ridden rats. Hello? You guys read history over there in the EU no man they're creating a cat thing going on back during the era of the Black Death and they turns out that cats could have controlled the whole thing by but none on it cats were bad That's interesting So the Black Plague or the Black Death, what was it? The Black Death. The plague black death. So there's information that could have been avoided if they had cats running around? Yeah! Oh... They didn't have any cats running around because cats were evil and

27:59 It was, for example in my neighborhood on the side of a hill there's a lot of rodents in the area. There's gophers and there's mice and there are some rats but not as many that are mice. And we used to have an old cat woman across the street that had all these feral cats she would feed so they'd be like probably 20 of them thought kindly on the woman and had the caps captured and neutered so they wouldn't just go crazy around her. But we did have these 20 or so feral cats that were all over the place, and there was no mice! No of course not

28:42 No mice. Now the cats, since they were neutered all died off there's no more feral cats in the neighborhood this took place over a long period now There's mice you got to get my mouse traps and glue traps and every once in while they get some much You get one little mouse or two In their house And it's just disturbing you know in future we might want to do a little tutorial on how to get rid of How to get rid of mice? We've already done the ants so yeah well I prepare something I don't want to discuss the best way because everybody moans and groans about it. Well, you're not allowed to stomp on them anymore. You know there's a the president no the president just passed the law Against me can't stop yes yeah There's a let me see I have it here somewhere He he passed a law and it was it's that anti animal crush act? I think looking forward now because apparently There's a lot of people who film and post two online video sites

29:43 videos of them crushing small animals for fun. Crushing him to death! Yeah, let's... yeah. Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture Act which I'm sure can easily be expanded to you know having a dog or in the house or cat outside yes it's the PACT act here it is It should be unlawful for any person to purposely engage an animal crushing in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, or within the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States. Anyone who intends or has reason to know that the Animal Crush video will be distributed in or using a means of facility of interstate or foreign commerce, or the Animal Crush video is distributed online."

30:37 So you are not allowed to post videos or even intend to produce a video that displays conduct, or visual depiction of conduct that is the slaughter of animals. Oh instead it's okay there's a lot of things you can do so you can stomp on a fish if you catch it if it's for food If it's for research if you're euthanizing the animal, which they also go in detail about. But apparently this is so rampant and it may even be a sexual fetish that people film this crushing of animals and post it online! Yuck! Who the hell wants to see that? Well enough people that they had to make a law about it

31:28 It must be a pretty big deal. Is that on Mastodon? Of course I have to do that with the southern accent because we know it's only Southern accent this way yes of course Yeah, now is that on the Fediverse can we is that where you can see these videos probably Hey, but I just want to point out one thing by the way about this The Ben Franklin myth and some of these other ones the guy writing about the myths Jimmy Stampy's writing the Smithsonian about him. And he said, I gotta read this sentence because he is writing about myths and he says

32:06 in part by a 1962 illustration for the cover by so-and-so who imagined that the great seal of the United States might look what it might look like if a turkey did become our national emblem above image, he's got a picture. However while it's hard to imagine that overstuffed flightless bird on our currency and then the president's lectern goes on and on It's not a flightless bird! This is another myth The turkeys they're very flightful Yeah They can get in fact they can fly at higher altitudes than we normally see them fly. Normally you see them, it's a pretty frightening thing to see but they can get up there. They're not very aerodynamic looking. No but they can get up I was reading all about turkeys for some dumb reason and i was reading that many turkeys can get up to you know they can fly at altitude

32:59 Okay, the more you know on the no agenda show beautiful let's get into some Some nut job stuff. I got some nut job stuff That's all that we got for this show right now We got I got more stuff. I got multi parters and did some work. I have one multi parter First, I identified this over on the No Agenda Reddit. I made the mistake of checking in once again it was more to see how the browser rendered on reddit and And so that this term that's been floating out there is now rampant is that Trump is a cult You're here. This is why I've got that. I got a whole bit about this Oh

33:46 Uh, why don't you... With clips. But wait- Well I have clips too! Why don't you do it? Wait wait wait more importantly what is the GUI your using for your Linux? The GUI for Linux? I'm using XFCE i think Oh im using Cinnamon Oh, yeah. Okay? Yeah I'm talking about the windows manager now. I'm just using Lubuntu which is minimal it has almost It's nothing let's not command line there has to be so I have a command line too of course no this of course everyone does It's just as nothing. It's nothing It's very its very sparse. I'll send you a screenshot all right now back to the cult if I don't want to

34:36 I got three clips. Well, no why don't you do your cult thing and I'll play my clips? Okay well i'll start with one clip which I think you don't have and this is uh so besides seeing it everywhere in our own group people accusing No Agenda producers of being a cult the cult of Trump I'm noticing in the mainstream, which of course is where these jimokes pick it up from. And I would like to point out this was said...I got a note from one of our producing you should add cult to the long list yeah Trump rotation dot com. Trump Rotation? I don't know I don't think so and then I started hearing and hearing it and then oh brother! Okay this is Rick Perry I think which Anna DeVero

35:23 Okay, so Anna Navarro you know the nutjob Republican who's always on CNN yelling about Trump So she posted that Rick Perry is is the main cult member You know like one of the lieutenants just listen to this clip And it's so clear that he's in a cult and you'll see that cult may be code for something else God used Imperfect people all through history King David wasn't perfect Saul wasn't perfect Solomon wasn't perfect and I actually gave the president a little one-pager on those Old Testament kings about a month ago. And I shared it with him, and said Mr President, I know there are people that say you know you said you were the chosen one and...and I said yes you're the chosen one so there's very thin line between calling an outfit a cult and then saying because it's religious thing or its Christian it's a cult

36:19 And what Perry used there were terms used specifically by the family. Have we talked about the family? The family in DC, it's all these religious guys... Yeah that operation with the house and... Yes! It's on Netflix they have a whole series on it They have a very good special I think we should recommend people see it On The Family, it has a bunch of religious... There are a lot to watch but they literally say you know they're looking for the wolf you know, who will shepherd the sheep and Donald Trump is... this is the people who outed their hands on him. There was a picture a couple of years ago that evangelicals were all there praying those are the guys from The Family and they use the example of King David and the term imperfect, you know, the imperfect leader so you know there's

37:12 There's a lot going on here, and I know what you're going into because there is a book that came out about the cult of Trump. But there is an actual kind of religious cult in DC which Perry may very well be in contact with or belong to And I'm just gonna call it a cult Because looking at that documentary seems very cultish to me. I agree! It's very cult-like operation as mainly one charismatic leader that runs it, and he's the guy who would make it a cult. If it wasn't for him, it was just a club like a fraternity. It'd be different. Didn't he just die recently? I think he did yeah so now there is going to be this situation that happened with the Church of Scientology where you have a bunch of guys scrambling to take over the place right with one guy emerging who's worse than the original

38:06 It was Doug Coe, C-O-E. Doug Coe was the guy and he died in 2017. And he always stayed in the back. He's really interesting because people should watch this special. He went out of his way to stay in the background. Yeah very low key but he is everywhere man every president But now, you know they could this could be a part of outing them. I don't know i'm just feeling there's A lot of stuff and I hear Perry using these exact terms Got me suspicious Well, I have a different explanation that was brought up and I'll kind of you want me to play my clip? So he just started this is the seltzer water guy on cnn yeah, I saw this interview

38:53 And so he starts off by introducing a guy who wrote the book you just discussed. Let's play clip one. He talked about his claim that Trump supporters are in a cult, just last week Dan Rather said he thinks support for Trump seems increasingly cultish and this weekend in The Washington Post, Trump critic and Republican strategist John Weaver said the GOP is not a party anymore in the traditional sense it's a cult None of them are mental health experts. Stephen Hassan is he's out with a brand new book called the cult of Trump He has firsthand experience escaping the Unification Church back in the 70s And he decided to write this book because he believes there's something seriously wrong with our politics So there's a guy who's, of course immediately equating cult to a religious organization Sun Yang moon yeah

39:41 The fact that he was susceptible to being suckered into a cult makes me wonder whether he's got a bone to pick or he's pissed off about the cult not doing what he wanted it to do, but he was already Had some, I don't know how to explain this but i don't trust someone. He's gotta be biased is what you're saying? Or it's like the guy who used to be a smoker or the gal who used to be an alcoholic Yeah they're the worst They are the worse because... Ex-alcoholics are the worst Why do you drink when you shouldn't be drinking? Ex-alcoholics! I hate them man they're the worst

40:24 They are. They clean up their act and then... Oh, you know I don't drink! I don't drink! I don't know why YOU drink? Why DO YOU drink?! Nobody should drink! I don't drink! You don't drink! You shouldn't drink! I drink-I don't drink! And they go on and on about it. I've been so-and then they brag about how long they've been sober. I just want to say- I've been sober for five years! Why are YOU drinking?? People who are sober that are to be applauded. I do want to say that. Well, I'm glad that they're sober but I don't need the aggravation personally It's like vegans. I'm vegan! Yeah, again... same thing. Vegans are probably worse let's face it No there is only one thing worse when you say i am a podcaster. Well that pretty bad. Couldn't you be an ex-alcoholic? Okay your a podcaster alright So im skeptical of this guy because his own background being in the unification church

41:17 and then he's gonna tell everybody else what's going on. But you know, and he's a Trump hater it's pretty apparent when you listen to Clip 2. So I define a destructive cult as an authoritarian pyramid structured group with someone at the top who claims to have total power and total wisdom that uses deception and control of behavior information thoughts and emotions to make people loyal and dependent and obedient followers So for me the issue of between a an ethical healthy cult where you're free to think and free to leave versus a destructive cult I'm referring to Trump's organization And followership as a destructive call where people are being fed propaganda, and they're not being encouraged to think for themselves They're not being encouraged

42:08 to really explore and look at the details, and arrive at their own conclusion. Much of what they're hearing is emotionally driven loaded words thought-stopping and thought terminating type cliches like fake news or build the wall or make America great again You say that president is using mind control but how's that provable? So we can start with the pathological lying which is characteristic of destructive cult leaders saying things in a very confident way that have nothing to do with facts or truthfulness the the blaming others and never taking responsibility for his own failures and faults shunning, and kicking out anyone who raises questions or concerns about his own behavior

43:02 his use of fear-mongering, immigration is a horrible thing. It is frightening to hear a cult expert say that you see all these signs right now today in American politics Yeah this was the good piece of that interview Now, a couple things. One he says is the cult is something you can't leave and people are leaving this cult all the time. Then he asked him to say... You never said anything about mind control but Seltzerwater says yeah how could you prove that? That's your expert on cults

43:47 That that was his top reason well lots of people lie doesn't mean they're cult leaders And now you that but just there's a lot of it which is its nonsense But I believe to me. It was complete projection what he was saying What you say, I was just gonna say this that old Dutch saying yeah, but you said by yourself with your copter the health It's like what you were saying about the others as what you are yourself this totally he actually went on I don't know if you saw the whole interview, and Seltzerwater drew the conclusion that well at Thanksgiving you can just offer people why don't you look at one of my stories and I'll look at one of your stories. Exactly the advice they should be taking themselves! These people in particular... I refuse to listen to Rush Limbaugh. Yes there's a lot of that. That's the common thing you hear stuff like that yeah i don't refuse to listen to anybody

44:39 So in fact, I've been listening to one of these guys. I can't remember his name but he's a left-wing talker. You've been listening to me for 12 years... I mean you will listen to anybody! Alright so of all people that have kind of the best explanation for this that actually makes nothing but sense is Scott Adams. Oh course yeah. Listen to what he has to say why is this cult thing even around? He has an explanation that to me literally explains it. So my worldview is completely consistent, so my worldview says President Trump did not do anything impeachable and therefore will not be removed from office now if he's not removed from office my worldview will be consistent

45:33 But what if your worldview is that you're a Democrat? What if your worldview is not only the president did something that's impeachable, but several impeachable things and their worldview it's all obvious. There's no question about the facts. It's just all obvious. What would you think about the president not being removed from office? How would your world make sense? In my world, he doesn't get removed from his office because they didn't do anything that would warrant that. But if you think he did plenty of things that weren't it? How do you explain it a year from now when he's still in office? Well we're seeing the answer to that. You already know the answer right? The answer is that the Republicans are a cult and thus this seems to be the answers they're looking for to make their world makes sense because if Republicans are occult

46:34 and not looking at reason, then that makes sense because the Republican majority in the Senate will never vote to support impeachment. But not because there's no evidence according to the Democratic view of the world it's because its a cult. Yeah its simple but yeah I mean it is like a desperate last ditch effort And I don't know how this, obviously the coincidence of this guy showing up with his book makes a lot of sense. It's just whoops and there is this guy and everyone is calling Trump a cult so do you think it started with him or was it started

47:17 Is it just one of those things that swells up or was a coordinate? I think it's been building. Yeah, because listening to the lib joes yeah your Putin is running the country they their worldview is so skewed and irrational and wrong that For example, and I would like to remind new producers to the show The Lib Joe's which is short for liberal journalists. Lib Joe's two very famous writers one of which is a journalist who wrote for the big publications, the big papers and you have continuous contact with them. For some reason they find you humorous enough to clue you into their thinking because of course they'd never listen to Noah Jenda. Because they're trying to convince me that they're right. Yes! That's what they do. Yeah it was very nice

48:11 So they have a, they've had this worldview that like Scott Adams said that is wrong. And for example, a year ago or longer they were convinced and most of them were convinced especially by the beginning of this year that Trump would quit. We played it clip all this liberals are thinking oh he's gonna quit office so the walls are closing in. Oh its, whatever that one clip where he had a million people going on and on about it. Yeah, you know, it's a bombshell, you know, this is the end of the Trump administration. The beginning of the end! Yeah all of that right? The beginning in the end and so they were...and they-the two Lib Joes were convinced that by this the end of this year he would have quit. Well it's not over yet we still have a whole month. And I won bets during the election period when he was running for office

49:02 when he was first running in 2016, they were of the same kind of mindset thinking that oh he's not-he's gonna quit. He's going to drop out and there it wasn't like there was thinking about he might drop out no his fact dropping out yes And he did drop out. So this is what, again, this is what Adams was referring to where you have your worldview and you have to look at what you've decided as reality and how does the end result coincide with what it should be based on your reality? And it's not working out. It's not what they're expecting that isn't happening so they're looking for other excuses. There must be some reason for this

49:45 And now the whole thing pops up. Well, then kudos to Democratic Representative Lawrence who is backpedaling on her decision for impeachment She's she apparently there's pressure coming or something and she's not using the cult meme Let's go now to Democratic Congresswoman Brenda Lawrence who sits on the House Oversight Committee that are getting a lot of attention about this issue Of impeachment and what to do here. Here is part of what you said about President Trump. Let me just play it so viewers can hear We're so close to an election I will tell you

50:23 Sitting here knowing how divided this country is I don't see the value of taking him out of office But I do see the value of putting down a marker saying his behavior is not acceptable. I want him censured, I want it on the record So she's calling for a censure which is like you know an official It's kind of the same thing that impeachment and articles of impeachment are. But really censure is just like, well you know bad boy we disagree with what you did at the House of Representatives did their job. You say there I want him censured and you don't see the value of taking him out of office referring to President Trump? What exactly do you mean by this Congresswoman? But the discussion was

51:11 Will the Republicans in the Senate go through and impeach the president? There seems to be no giving in that. But, the thing that keeps me awake and troubles me is what I was talking about is there's actually a movement to resolve the president of any wrongdoing. We cannot afford for that to happen. But in the senate instead possibly absolving him, you'd rather they not vote on remove or not remove that they vote to censure him in the Senate. Yes privately the Republicans are saying yes it's not right he's done something wrong but I'm...it's just not impeachable we have to put a marker down so i'm gonna do my job in the house

51:56 And when it gets to the Senate, I was putting out there that this is a way for history to reflect. That this president and any president from now on... This is unacceptable and that we will not tolerate it. We will say as the checks-and-balances in our government that we did our job." See? This is now where it's going she said it three times We did our job. We did our job." Everyone needs to know that we did our job, don't be mad! Please don't be mad...we did our job and she's going right around the cult thing she's not even talking about it She is in what I would call the proto-cult of camp

52:40 And you, as soon as I mention this, you'll recognize it. The proto-occult camp won't come out and just say they're a cult It says that they're privately... Oh yes, privately. ...that's... privately. Senator Republicans are privately against Trump Yeah, you're right They privately hate Trump You're right! It's there, I could have caught it Damnit! Yep So, it's the same thing Did she shift? Do you see Schiff backtracking? Oh he doesn't know what to do with himself Poor guy Poor guy. Yeah, I mean really I mean he doesn't be able to shed his skin apparently His eyes are popping out because of it popping out. Yeah That's true well he was on Jake Tapper show you could I like Jake Tapper He's always had an edge to him

53:30 He's pushing back and Schiff just pulls out the biggest chicken shit excuse ever. If the facts aren't contested, and your committee is writing up the report, and you don't at least as of now have any scheduled witnesses or depositions do you think President Trump should be impeached? I want to discuss this with my constituents and colleagues before i make a final judgment on it Okay, you get clip of the day for this catch-up. Oh I knew you'd like it! Are you kidding me? He goes on he goes on... You want to hear a little more? This is very cute. Play the whole thing start from the beginning okay if the facts aren't contested and your committee is writing up the report and you don't at least as of now have any scheduled witnesses or depositions

54:19 Do you think President Trump should be impeached? I want to discuss this with my constituents and my colleagues before i make a final judgment on it. But there are couple really important things we need to think about, and one is Are we prepared to say that soliciting foreign interference, conditioning official acts like 400 million in taxpayer money White House meetings to get political favors is somehow now compatible with the office? Because if we do it's basically carte blanche for this president and anyone who comes after him. But are we also prepared to say that Congress will tolerate the complete stonewalling of an impeachment inquiry or our oversight

54:57 because if we do it'll mean that the impeachment clause is a complete nullity and more than that our oversight ability is really an ability in name only. But, if that's your view and you've also said this week testimony quote goes right to the heart of the issue of bribery and you've also said what you seen as far more serious than what Nixon did. Explain to me how you have not come to the conclusion that the president should be impeached? I mean, it sounds like he-you think he should be impeached Well, I certainly think that the evidence has been produced overwhelmingly shows serious misconduct by the president but i do want to hear more from my constituents and I want to hear more from my colleagues this is no decision I will make alone But at the end of the day

55:42 This is a decision about whether the founding fathers had in mind this kind of misconduct when they gave Congress this remedy. And I have to think that this is very much central to what they were concerned about, that as an unethical man or woman takes that office uses it for their personal political gain, sacrifices the national security to do so. If that wasn't what the founders had in mind it's hard to imagine what they did. Yeah, so he's... I mean he did fail because now the, I guess next week the judicial oversight, the Judicial Committee is with Nadler are not going to do some more hearings. This thing is falling apart at the seams! It didn't work! He didn't get you know the outrage people aren't on the streets there's no farmers with tractors

56:38 Get rid of Trump. Yeah, there's nothing going on as a matter of fact. None of that! None of it and he even admits that none of his witnesses had anything any facts they didn't see it didn't hear it in fact the only argument he has if you recall what was the guys name Mulvaney the Trump's new chief of staff who did mess up and he went in front of the press and went, oh yeah quid pro quo happens all the time it says get over it grow up which yeah of course we understand what he is saying but its like here some red meat hello angry media machine what an idiot for him to do that. Well it was a well he thought it might work

57:28 Hey, let me uh... You thought common sense would reign. Yeah I just played that one bit Have any witnesses testified that the president himself explicitly linked a White House meeting or the 400 million dollars in aid to an announcement about these investigations? Yes That's a lot! Not a single witness did that but he calls Mulvaney a witness who of course was not a witness. Million dollars in aid to Everyone was in loop on the preconditioning of the meeting that Ukraine desperately... Yeah, whatever. Blah blah blah blah blah What a what an incredible douche wasting our time with bad television There is almost no crime bigger in the United States We we invented that and you ruined it You've made bad television

58:35 That's for sure. Did not consult us, had just no idea what you were doing No arc of tension Just worthless Oh no! It could happen here is the slope I got a Democrat here who is going to explain exactly how it will work How your prophecy John C Dvorak The man who predicted Hillary would run again How many years have been saying this now? Well, when was the election over? This is Robert Petillo. He's a civil rights attorney and he explains... well in fact the question was

59:23 Because he's been a believer in this theory. And do you think that Hillary can still step into this race? Well, I think the odds are actually higher now than when we spoke before that she'll get in Let's understand the recent polling shows there is a four-way split at the top of the race and we may very well have four separate winners for each of the early primary states Mayor Pete wins Iowa Bernie wins New Hampshire Joe Biden wins South Carolina and then Warren wins Nevada, then that means going into Super Tuesday you have no clear frontrunner. Hillary Clinton has 100% name recognition she has a formidable fundraising base she has a clear reason to run a rematch of 2016 where she won by over 3 million votes

1:00:07 and now has a ground game to actually win the Rust Belt. If Joe Biden isn't able to lock down this nomination within the next two months, then there's really no reason for her not to jump in prior to Super Tuesday. So you have a ground game which is in place from the HRC 08 campaign. You have consultants who have been recently leaving other top campaigns and as more candidates drop out, more of that top talent becomes available just this week you had Joe Biden's top latina advisor leave his campaign so those people are in place she has the ground game she has clearly the fundraising apparatus So for someone like Duval Patrick is it reasonable or

1:00:45 of Right now the party is completely splintered. You have about 30% in the Bernie slash Warren wing of the party, you have 70% who are staunchly against seeing that wing of the party win even we've saw reports this week President Obama saying that he will step in to make sure that Bernie Sanders does not get the nomination and because you have this splintering between Joe Biden Pete Buttigieg Amy Klobuchar some of

1:01:23 other minor candidates, there is this idea that you just need a uniting figure to come in and bring these disparate aspects together. I like the idea of how he sees the four frontrunners winning basically their own little territories and they're being no clear winner and that would be the impetus for a uniter to swoop in... Well, the first two Iowa and New Hampshire He's probably right, but Nevada is where he falls apart with number four because a lot of people think that Biden will take that. So we'll see... But I like his thinking it's pretty much along the lines of my thinking

1:02:10 She does say the apparatus. You never busted up her machine my word was not the machine She's still in place ready to go ready to go at the drop of a hat she still has all these adoring fans she hasn't like California for example women here that are hillbots Are still here they haven't changed their minds or not Hill, but I'm no longer hill bots They're still thinking she got gypped How about that hit job though on Bernie? Because there's no proof of that, there is no fact that apparently Obama told one other candidate. No, I said it. You did! Out of emotion...I think he did say it. It was reported on by way too many people Well thats why its a hit job

1:02:59 Oh, it's a total hit. Poor Bernie! Yeah but it was reported as he said to one of the candidates but we don't know who it was and we know that Mary P said... Maybe just the hitch job It's a hit job The newspapers okay first of all let's line up who is on whose side The big boys, the New York Times and the WAPO not so much the networks although I believe maybe MSNBC they're all behind Warren And Warren is failing In fact, and Warren doesn't help things much by saying maybe she'll have a vice presidential pick will be a woman. I read that somewhere. How is that? No, I heard her say it. She was being interviewed on some radio show or something like that and she says the woman wouldn't be beyond the realm of possibility what difference does it make as a good idea and she went... And then that means you would have to be Kamala Harris because there'd have to be a woman of color. She's not gonna pick another white woman

1:03:57 So you have that combination of the death combination. It has no chance of success, and so she's being pretty much booted out of the scene but these papers... it reminds me of one of the venture capitalists that we both know and love who is a huge supporter of Democrat politics, billionaire guy. From Kleiner? Yeah. And he was like I remember during the, think it was We're talking about JD, yeah? Am I not allowed to say his name or is that... Well, I don't like to give him publicity but he gives millions to these different organizations and he's the one who turned probably both of us on to the fact that he's doing it to get an ambassadorship to either the UK or France. Right! But he's backed Gore

1:04:55 Everyone he's backed has failed. He also backed half a billion dollars worth of green tech. Oh yeah, he was the... He's not a great picker of anything! Not a great picker of presidents, not a great picker of companies They missed out on Google and it was so embarrassing that they had a midnight meeting It was explained to me maybe one day I can recall exactly what it was. It was a midnight meeting and they went Sequoia and Vindaloo or whatever, and said hey we have to have a piece of this you just can't leave this out. And they overpaid! They really overpaid now of course in hindsight that paid off handsomely but maybe only 1 third of what other people made. It was panic investment it was they failed they walked away from it they didn't see it they didn't have the vision yeah those are your top eight

1:05:48 a lead to the Silicon Valley guys can't be presidents. Well, again they're as hot Democrats with the worldview that's inaccurate according to Scott Adams you start making mistakes like this and they never stop One mistake after another. This is the reason you want to listen to The No Agenda Show and you can kind of fine tune your worldview, it's not that we're right about everything but at least we have some notion of rather... We look at the logic of everything and we see what makes sense or what doesn't make sense so we try to make sense of it and generally speaking what makes sense literally makes sense is the right way to go and they've lost a touch

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1:17:43 Fight count of Victoria pending. Yes, that will be today looking forward to it sir Matt Thank you for your courage and hello to your daughter. Hello. Sure. Yeah. Yes hi Hi How are you doing? Sir hashtag 333 33 Happy Thanksgiving Adam and John thank you for working today And yes we do we work on on Thanksgivings we've skipped one I believe maybe two Thank you for working today and every day to keep our amygdalas in a healthy state. Sir, hashtag blessed of the cavity aficionados on that note I Am going to Holland for a for a small thing with my sisters

1:18:27 I've been able to plan the actual cremation of my father around show days. I just want you to know That is how dedicated we are to the show see You can't if you can't put them in the oven on Thursday or Sunday This is not acceptable My sisters understand this joking then they're fun there okay with it, but as so Wednesday This coming Wednesday, I fly to Amsterdam. Middle seat coach... I arrive Thursday morning, I'll sleep, I'll prep, I'll do the show Friday is when we have our family gathering Sunday and because I have to stay a weekend otherwise the ticket $5600 round-trip Stay the weekend it's still two grand It's crazy

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1:20:12 Yes, it does make a difference. This is a yeah I mean I'm reminded of the good place the TV series which is like one of these very cavalier as Rick and Morty's a little like this very Cavalier let's put on some episodes this year and skip a couple years put it on again Because we're so great that people just keep coming back and I get kind of lost interest in I mean, I probably watch the series. It's finish it off because it's the last season they only do four seasons Which is dumb, but why did you lose interest? Because there's been over a year and you know, I forgot all about it This is really something about Regimentation helps a lot. Yeah, it does have its yeah these sorts of things are important

1:20:58 It turns out that if you get into a groove about something, and then all of the sudden it disappears and you've lost the groove. I have heard of it. So we work on Thanksgiving because we're freaking paranoid! We have never run a rerun on this show ever. A rerun? No, never done a rerun no no no We've done specials, occasionally we've done interview shows. Everything's fresh and new. Pretty much or it's been remixed to be fresh and new? Just a little lesson for you podcasters who think that you can just cavalierly do the show whenever you feel like it because it's a podcast! No end of lecture. Onward to Sir Ray Jacobson in Ashland Virginia who also comes into the Thanksgiving Day executive producer

1:21:46 I give thanks to the no agenda, that no agenda exists. I'd like to request family vacation karma and that my grandson can attend insert family drama here his mother is denying an upcoming film a fun-filled Florida vacation do a four year old with his dad and possibly the last this time in his life to meet his great grandmother goat karma would be best Oh, yeah. Family drama like that... That sucks I would say particularly because meeting a great-grandmother My daughter met her great grandfathers and i think was valuable for me certainly For them! And for you! For them and for me Kids can't remember anything You've got karma There ya go man Thankyou for your support

1:22:48 So it's like we're talking about, a couple years ago when you were in London we were gonna go to Paris on a side trip since we're all over there for the big meetup. We had a meetup but we couldn't arrange it with so many people that would never got over there and just stayed in London and I think Jay was lamenting this and I said, you've been to Paris! And she says, yeah when I was two. It doesn't count does it? Yeah and it doesn't count. No. Sir 10-T the Duke of the 7th Federal Reserve District in 333 33

1:23:31 He says at the beginning, no harm no foul. Crackpot and Buzzkill thank you both for your twice weekly dose of sanity on Thursday and Thursday. And my best wishes for today's celebration in the of the harvest. There we go! There it is, he's starting it. There's the harvest It's launching on our own damn show John Yeah that's what happens. What better show? Anyway, to all the No Agenda producers especially those in the 7th Federal Reserve District this donation is to be applied to the knighthood of Joe Foe who manages X Y R Own Accountancy. Xur

1:24:14 Please, I won't be able to read this stuff in the future. Please play the jingle requests China is a-ho ass asshole It's true and a Fletcher call out these ifs only thought you want some Fletcher Foley college specifically interesting keep up the great work Sir Tanti Duke at the Seventh Federal Reserve Okay We did it for ya You know, I exchanged some notes with Foley. Grand Duke of Silicon Valley. I said you know what about using your house for a Silicon Valley meetup? Ooh he has a great place for that! So i thought it was an imposition that took a lot you know from my even my own perspective that took a lot of nerve kind of but you went for it course and

1:25:16 Yeah, it's a great idea. So now I have to think about maybe doing that. Now you have to go! Well the problem is... The thing is like do you want a bunch of these guys over at your house? It's not because of the people, it's just because of the bar and the tab You know the way we normally do is at a bar and everyone picks up their own tab, you have a few people that are generous and they like to buy drinks for everybody. And the atmosphere's bar-like it's kind of a bar atmosphere that you know is noisy has got other people... So what your saying is really embarrassed yourself with this one? It's not a good request

1:26:00 Well, I'm thinking twice about it because of the nature unless we get a band in there. Hey and can you get the Stones Foley? What's your problem? We want to meet up and we want Mick and uh... The Stones yeah that's what we want. Get The Stones! Well that would be cool Yeah hey i'd come over for that one. Yeah okay anyway Sir Warren Carroll is next on the list with $333 from Indianapolis Indiana Your baronet of bottom filling here i have decided to spend my budgeted amount for psychedelics on the show since it's just as important from a mental health. He got some little comment there thank you for all that you do and if any producers wanna see the coolest beer dispenser in the world check out,

1:26:52 Bottoms up beer dot com yeah i believe sir warren i've seen this has been around for a while is very successful i believe sir warner works at the company. This is the company that They have a bar top, you know the tap and you put the glass on top of it fills up from the bottom which has a lot of benefits. The main one to that we've talked about on this show...the main one to the bar is significant increase in profit because less waste etc. It's cool device bottoms-up beer they have them in Austin now too. I'll check this out

1:27:36 Dame G Money, 333. I know Dame G Money! I met her at the meetup. Happy Thanksgiving to No Agenda Nation this year i'm thankful for my normal-sized amygdala John and Adam And all your producers, douchebags and slaves. Can I get some Pelosi Jobs karma and a F cancer for my girl Montgomery? Aww. Thank- uh love you mean it PS I could also use the de-douching we'll give her that right now You've been dedouched It's been a long time since my last donation Alright! We got it for ya! Fucking cancer! Fucking cancer! Fuckin' cancer!

1:28:16 Jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Yusuf Karma. Going for an IT job at the VA, so better make it the old tried and true not this newfangled stuff. Add a Swazilnuff twist if you can still looking for a smoking hot girlfriend. Baronet Steven of Oswego Okay he wants an old school swazzle nuff we can do that Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs

1:29:05 You've got karma 69 There it is with our barons or day fugu zoto Saudi Arabia somewhere Middle East who knows? 23456 also popular dear stuffing engraving thanking you for your courage Please give us some jaw travel karma for Dame melody and Lady Isabel as they head to Lola's house for the holiday. I Also, a second special karma for producer Jerry E. in Houston. Also, a second special karma for producer Jerry G in Houston who lost his mom this week. Thanks you guys really are the B-P-I-T-U have a swell holiday weekend Dave! Now wait he did ask since he is a barren

1:30:03 And who came in last show and he specifically asked for separate two karmas you bet I think we have to deliver those do we keep them the same or should I make one a goat? Oh, oh the goat for the travel. It's like yeah go for the travel good for the travel. You've got Karma, and here's the special one for his buddy You've got karma All right, we delivered once again Miles, well especially for the high end. The high end. The high end. And a Giro class. Miles buys them $211 and 20 cents he may be our new handlers we don't know who knows

1:30:53 NINC, although I do need a D or an NJNC. NC. He thinks Carmichael should be K. Yes but he does need to deducing and we got this. You've been de-douche'd! I'd like to thank everyone for the hard work they put into the show Adam and John your insight is invaluable and i'd like to especially thank both of you for being open and honest with your opinions And big thanks to all the producers, I'm very happy this show doesn't run ads. Both in art and jingles are top notch! I'm surprised Utah hasn't come up with a pronunciation debate. I don't know.

1:31:41 So it's not Utah, but you are. Got it got it got it Here's some fun short clips to play if you know the history behind it according to the BYU study linked below Utahns dropped a T differently than the rest of the US here are some fun short clips to play Anyway, if you have the time Normal tea drops, anyway he's got a bunch of these examples. We'll put them together and put them on a future show when we get into that topic again unless you did that which I doubt it. No, I didn't. I just looked for him actually but couldn't find him that quick so... Okay well we'll do something with that later because its funny idea that Utah which does have its own kind of an accent You are! You are. Utons would be the uh have a different way of doing this Well they'd have to yeah They'd have to Whatever they call it

1:32:31 Roger a were away. We're really real Worley work could be worldly Roger were in Bangkok $28 and 88 cents Okay, the no agenda show is essential to my well-being He's in Bangkok another donation was long overdue I'm grateful for what you and Adam do Keep up the good work and please send me a health and jobs karma Thanks as for the newsletter. I are as you see them just fine So how would you know if you didn't? That's the question I have to ask. Yeah, remind me to mention something about the newsletter and email issues because we have some people who are of well mind but are making some thinking mistakes about that. Jobs and healthcare? Yes! We got that for you. Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs

1:33:28 Karma. Christine Kodega or Katika, one of the two $200 happy Thanksgiving John and Adam thank for thankful for both of you and the Noah agenda family did it was Christine Thank You Robert Simpson $200 this donation is one half of the $400 filing fee for opposition to the trademark application for the no agenda T shirts NJNK and no need to read further but he does say thanks for handling that so quickly. So what exactly does this mean? It means I think isn't either t-shirt guy, i don't know i this is not no agenda shop

1:34:19 Was Simpson involved with it? Well, whatever the case is that he gave us 200 bucks to help pay for filing. Whatever you're doing and thank you very much because yes we are on that case We are going to push back because we have to You can't just step in Just step in and use our name like that Uh uh! No no It's not okay James Gillickson. And we're two of the most, we're the most open guys use whatever you want please credit us copy the show anything you want We don't complain about Stitcher putting ads around our show we don't complain about Spotify and Pandora just putting our shows on having ads tracking I didn't put it up there... We don't complain please just copy it but this was going a little too far Fox Nation

1:35:10 Yeah, I thought so too. Sorry did you read the cease and desist order? Yes, I did It was quite funny Should we read that on the show one day or is that not good etiquette maybe maybe one of these days right now? I think would just let the lawyer do his thing. Okay Robert Simpson James Gillick's dead use a Robert Simpson, you know, I didn't Robert Simpson 200 here We did no that was Robert Simpson. I'm sorry. I'm all confused. I'm a mess James Gillickson, that's who we're talking about. James W., as a matter of fact. ITM gents today I'm truly thankful for all that you do to keep us sane! I would like to ask for some health care from my brother and fellow producer Tom Gillickson who will be having a procedure this Friday. He would like a foamer and any Rev L mix it'd be appreciated. Oh My God!!!

1:36:10 Listen to that horn! Thanks to you, Ed. Is this crown hog day two? We are watching- That was Attorney General Eric Holder's ABDs about some Republicans at home on already beating the drums of war. Today, the Pentagon refuted that claim and he said the American people do not want him to quote... Okay Al. Xander Wallachia 200 He's in New Jersey.

1:36:53 Jersey rules, or whatever you say. It's Jersey strong, Jersey strong! It's Jersey rules. First things first happy Thanksgiving John and Adam when most media douchebags have checked out for the week as they have we can always count on the two of you to continue to inform and entertain us The news cycle doesn't stop That's right I took a look at the last time i donated uh it wasn't since episode 760 that's too damn long in my opinion My opinion too, actually. That's okay. You guys offer a lot of value so it's about time I provide some value in return! It's the holidays so I'll spare the douchebag callouts against the freeloaders they know who they are my smoking hot wife and i are planning to move to pennsylvania in the new year may we get some house buying karma please

1:37:41 The same time this will be an expensive endeavor so we need to get used to eating mac and cheese. And we will for sure be living the Mac and cheese life for the foreseeable future anyway like those two jingles. Enough goofing off on my end and closing this. Thanksgiving, I'm most thankful for the No Agenda Show hope you fine gentlemen get to enjoy some time with the loved ones after the show and we will yes indeed well give you this one Mac and cheese you've got karma

1:38:22 Sir Maxine Waters Gravels back 200. Seasons greeting and happy Thanksgiving. Could be 10 people doing this but I think it's the only one. Anything is possible. Yeah, John a quick reminder it is sir MWG and not Dame Yes What did they do? On a previous show you misgendered Oh no, the misgenderization on this show must stop. First it was Derby Dyke then some dude named Robin then me! I'd have gone gender neutral but several queries no pun intended into the peerage committee went unanswered. The peerage committee is on hiatus

1:39:10 They'll probably get back to you as soon as they get back. Perhaps a rebranding of the show to Noah Jenderer, get it? A gender agenda is in order. Anyway, jingle request Biden whole load whoopie get out of my vagina and JCD electrifying my balls and Peterson's that's wrong Perhaps whether that's true at the very end. They love light and turkey, MWG. I'm just looking for the Peterson That's Wrong... Oh here it is! Peterson's That Wrong? And then what's the last one?

1:39:52 Uh, oh. That's true at the very end. Okay alright that was quite a lot to look up and I actually gave it a little extra twist. I'm gonna give you the whole load today. Get out of my vagina! It is electrifying my balls! That's wrong. That's true Okay, was there any karma? No. There's no karma needed right now He doesn't care about the car my just said just the lewd Yes, thanks a lot all in you endo sir dart farmer of dark sir dirt farmer of Illinois 200 he'll be our last associate executive producer for this fine show and

1:40:42 Thanks for the harvest, Karma. The farmers needed it best of all the producers out there have a great Thanksgiving and chip in! Interesting that this is the second producer on today's list who spells karma with a C. Yeah I mean language just changed maybe we have to adhere to this It was just random number You've got karma. That was some special egg trade karma, exactly! That's our group of associate executive producers and executive producers for the special Thanksgiving Day Special for show 1194 I want to thank each and every one of them for helping us do this. I believe...I have...uhh.. I DO BELIEVE I've got two make goods One is from...for Sir Richard Leiter

1:41:34 Last week John only read the second half of my donation note which called out my friends but as douchebags. But the real impetus for the donation was Jobs Karma, most powerful strength available from my daughter who graduated from pharmacy school and passed her boards this summer but can't find a job! She's getting desperate. She is also married to a douchebag and is in need of some serious relationship karma." Well... The two sometimes are related I'm just saying that is sometimes how the universe works. So If she's listening Sometimes you got to get where you got a deduce yourself to make something change anyway relationship and jobs karma as As make good here jobs Jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for job You've got karma and also got a note from Jennifer Oglie

1:42:29 Which is important. He says, forgive me Adam and John I meant to send this email much sooner to address the donation I made for my husband on episode 1175 in the amount of $210.25 for our anniversary. I failed to ask for the donation to be made in his name Matthew Ogley so he could get the credit as producer for the episode as he is actively seeking employment and would like to use the credit on his LinkedIn and resume are we able to rectify this? Yes, in fact I would say because it's you know It's a job related thing and it is for the LinkedIn if it's okay with you John. Can he have a special? can he have a The Thanksgiving special

1:43:17 Associate executive producer for the Thanksgiving Day special. Yeah, because that'll look really good Yeah, it would be easier than editing the old things put them on the list You read my mind let me just make sure we Like how can I make this easier? Hold a second? I just to make sure right and do this properly if I don't were in trouble What's his name again Matthew? McGonaghy Matthew Oglie, oglie. Okay good And then she says it goes on to say I also asked for jobs karma frame which he did not receive and since the show is still Not and since the show is still not found employment So as a desperate plea can he please receive him make good on jobs karma? so hopefully in the future I can report back that job Karma works the sooner He gets a job the sooner we can donate That's not what it's about The last request please

1:44:12 Deduce him as this was our first donation. Okay, you got it. Sorry we missed all that You've been d-douche jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for John Karma And thank you to all our executive producers of the No Agenda Thanksgiving special and our associate executive producers of the No Agenda Thanksgiving special. It will look very good on your LinkedIn, make sure you send a link or post something so that we can see that and thank you for your courage! Thank you for your thanks really it's noticed and its appreciated particularly on this day when when we give thanks and when we're also here

1:44:54 when most people aren't. That's our way of thanking you. Value, value meet in the middle perfect if you want to help us out even more Sunday we'll do it all over again go to Dvorak dot org slash N A and you know everything about the history of Thanksgiving once again propagate Our formula is this We go out...we hit people in the mouth Order! Shut up! Pray! Shut Up! Sleep

1:45:32 Want to do a quick little aside here since I would never record that Scott Adams clip, uh-huh. I got another one From that same show of his he does the show on periscope? Yeah is live microphone camera thing now Perfect Silicon Valley description of what Periscope is live microphone camera thing yes so I Had to discuss it either the last show of the show before sometime about the magic black magic being used by Steve Jobs Yes, we haven't even have an end-of-show clip about the match the black magic of Elon by Sir Chris Wilson well typically

1:46:22 Here's an interesting, even though Scott doesn't say it per se the way I did. Listen to this clip about his experience with this black magic. So let's talk about the Cybertruck. Apparently there are 200 thousand orders for that thing and I told you last couple days that I started with ugh! That thing is ugly and then a day later I was starting to think well maybe I wouldn't mind having one of those Cyber trucks and then the third day in I really want one. I Totally want one so whatever magic Elon Musk uses to make us what his products he's doing it again

1:47:06 And Scott is not the, isn't he the one who can figure out what that now all of a sudden instead of persuasion it's just well I can't figure him out must be black magic because the persuasions working on me. Once apparently this spells are so fantastical that they went right into Scott over and didn't even come around with the analysis why this is happening He just gave in to it Very odd and I'm concerned for Scott Can you imagine driving around in that? Okay, I'm not even gonna think about it. That's fine. That is the dumbest thing... You will never ship this is my prediction! What's interesting is that I was thinking about the American automobile or our automobile culture diminishing rapidly and

1:48:00 You know how we used to talk about freedom and all this, you know something great that you had? I think it was kind of about your car or you're 15-14 like I can't wait to get my license. It's gonna be a car and then you get a great car... And that has kind of changed into the smartphone That is now what people, you know see as oh I can't wait until they get my smartphone. I can be on Facebook I'm old enough and I have freedom now freedom to look at all this stuff whenever I want And maybe this is some kind of hybrid that it's still zapping into Scott's brain as a boomer Regarding vehicles but it has that even the name cyber. I think he tapped it He got double-tapped

1:48:49 He got tapped by the hot technology phone thing and his old boomerish car desires. Maybe, I don't know all if i was just taken aback by this... he just like pass it off as well that's the way it is they didn't have any real thoughts on it but this was he was encapsulated by whatever Is that goes on? I don't know. It doesn't seem to affect me at least he does at least the Musk stuff Doesn't I've had no desire To get as many of these really high-performance, but somewhat fit and trim kind of poorly poorly manufactured Vehicles well, I think Scott may need an intervention Well we'll see in the years ahead so the cops were on our street this morning ooh And they stopped a crime scene unit

1:49:46 And as Tina was leaving for the gym, they stopped her. CSI? CSU actually. The car said CSU I was looking out the window spying and... With binoculars to make it look really perfect So it could be really obvious No no And they stopped her and said, excuse me. Yeah yesterday there were some youths walking around here apparently checking doorknobs Now I was home all day Tina was home all day I don't think there's no one checking No door knobs But actually she said she did see them They had a piece of paper in their hand so she thought maybe they were looking for something or but now so one of the neighbors called because apparently these kids we're touching doorknobs and what did the cops want to know

1:50:34 Course they want to know if you have any video Exactly right. Do you have a ring? Can we access the video we want to see them how about that Maybe they weren't a scavenger hunt and you know, if we had one I would have said no I think Tina would have disagreed because she kind of said notice some kids on a scavenger hunt And I would've said no to the cops asking for Ring video Oh No, well you can't have that Go away. Nothing happened, it was a crime scene unit But you know of course they were black so I'm sure that the white neighborhood got all riled up by it but yeah They were probably on a damn scavenger hunt Who knows? But they were out there for an hour before the show started waiting for other neighbors to come out and ask them for ring video

1:51:23 That's what cops do now. I mean there is nothing left to do in Austin, unless something happened but they didn't say no just some kids checking door knobs and we're looking for ring video. Yeah suspicious behavior! But that was yesterday and this i'm sure there's something going on in the city and they're here for hours... I am sure a lot more going on than these monks coming around checking doors. They are here for hour looking for Ring Video. I think there are better ways you can do that I promised that would come back to the email, what was it about? It was about something in one of the donations.

1:52:03 You were gonna help me remember Okay, it's about the email being received or not so all you're gonna bitch about the email I'm not gonna bitch about it. I just want to know you should I want to help people understand and we also by The way, we have an insider at MailChimp Thank you very much for your courage anonymous He explained exactly how MailChimps works but But I'll relate that to some very good initiatives people are talking about on noagendasocial.com Can't say that enough, it's a great place to hang out with the Gitmo Nation NoAgendaSocial.com You can get an invite at any of the show notes, noagendashow.com The thinking is hey since this problem with the email why don't we start an email server and then everyone can have an account on that email server And then you know it will be guaranteed delivery

1:52:54 And I said, this is one of the worst ideas you can have. The idea is not to centralize on the Internet in fact the opposite is better everyone should actually have their own email server that they can control because I've never missed out on an email because it comes into my server But I want you to understand the issues besides the obvious that no one should even think they want to be responsible for anyone else's email server This is a nightmare of epic proportion. You will get so much you will be doing that full-time You'll be administering all kinds of things that aren't working right for people as just know know know and

1:53:39 There is no protecting your so-called great solution from the perils that are email on the internet. And I was reminded of why these problems occur from our insider producer at MailChimp, They don't pay any of the big companies for white-listing fees, according to him. And I think he's... well, I won't even mention what department he is in but he would know. So they don't pay for that but They have huge servers and they're very careful about what networks they're on. Because here's the issue, if I have a server at home...I've done this you have an email server If your ISP will even allow you to send on port 25 the SMTP protocol if they'll even allow it most don't

1:54:31 All you need is for one A-hole on your entire network segment to do something with spam, his IP address will get reported and the entire network block that goes along with that also gets reported. And this is apparently what happens to MailChimp from time to time because they have cloud infrastructure they continue to switch IP addresses and over time an IP address of a mail server builds up trust Believe it or not is Bayesian and but there's also Google and Yahoo, and all these guys have big algorithms that That learn how to trust an IP address that sending email And again you get one guy in the same data center who? Sends out a whole bunch of crap on spam your IP address gets demoted or blocked and so this mail chimp is constantly switching away from these networks that are reported and blocked and that's why its intermittent and

1:55:28 Yeah, I believe this is probably the problem. And to add to that when you send an email it's not like your email just goes out our newsletter is in one batch no its lumped in with tens of thousands hundreds of thousands other emails going out and gets into the queue And so you're sending along with other people, someone else's email could have something shitty in there that Google Gmail doesn't like and then yours ours comes right after that. Gmail has already taken measures to block it. So it's been ruined It's a nightmare! It truly is, and there's very little you can do about it when it comes to mass emailing. Other than... I would recommend people learn how to set up their own email server. Let me just say one thing

1:56:20 Okay, go ahead. I'll stop you for the following reasons first of all you go on and on about how what a nightmare it is to set up an email server Now your time you're recommending no make up your mind No first of all stop bitching at me i'm in no mood for your shit because you're just doing it to be whatever dick know No, because you contradicted yourself. No I'm saying that you don't want to host an email server for a whole bunch of people You want to decentralize...I said that specifically Decentralize And then you personally have to take great care for the trust of your own network You can't have someone else do that YOU HAVE TO DO IT! You have to... What? Most people don't have time to do what you just described Well then most people are just going to live with shit email

1:57:11 That's what they're doing as we speak. And I disagree! It's, I think that it's relatively simple to set something up with a... you know what? I've been preaching do your own email for as long as the show has been on the air and mine is fine. I'm gonna say something positive here so you don't grouse in its The way that I downloaded that ultimate Mint 19, which is an all-encompassing Linux distro with everything you need to really... If you had a little company and wanted to put everybody on it. You wouldn't have to buy any Microsoft licenses. You could install this on all the machines in your office And it would be fine from 90% of everything unless people have to use Photoshop let's say

1:57:57 Why isn't there a downloadable Linux distro with exactly all the elements that you're talking about, an email server simple to maintain? A server that you just download and run. And boom! You done. Why do you say that there isn't I'm just asking if there is then Totally absolutely So so that's what you're using well I've hosted mine at home. Currently it's been in the cloud and on a network segment that i pay extra for so that IP address is trusted, and I pay almost nothing for it. It's you know the free tier because there's not a lot of data really that comes in and goes out And its been running just almost completely unattended for eight years

1:58:48 But that was a setup with something called I read mail, which was not the same as a distro you download and set up. My point is now you say people don't have time well okay then shut up about not getting the newsletter because when... I'm the one complaining about them not getting their newsletter! People complain about not receiving the newsletter all the time but they're on Gmail so when you get what you pay for hello So Gmail is not a great solution. Nor is Yahoo Mail or AOL mail, ProtonMail seems to be working pretty well for people that so far yeah and that again it because you just don't want to have a big centralized system That is not the way the internet was designed It's supposed to be distributed anyway. It's moot No, it's not! It hurts the show

1:59:52 Yeah, but I just what will hurt the show more is if people set up a group email with thousands of producers. Oh that's right back to the point! That's going to suck Back to the point Wasn't there something else he said though that was kind of interesting? He had a lot of things to say besides that Well that was the main thing is they bundle it all in and their IP addresses You know, they switch around and then it could be that someone else is... It's not a good idea to use that system either. That's the bottom line. No I agree in fact as a VPN user... Another problem! Oh there was a problem with VPNs too There's always a problem with VPN but as a VPN user its funny

2:00:35 to, because you switch your V, you go on and off it because sometimes you just can't do anything with it running. And you go on one from somewhere, that's doing Toronto Canada and you click in there is a certain number then you try to do anything on the internet, you're blocked Because whoever, somebody apparently used that specific number to spam the crap out of everybody. So everything's blocked and then you remember the numbers dot dot one four, so you disconnect and reconnect

2:01:12 and it comes up with some other number, everything's fine. But then sometime in the future when you disconnect and reconnect you back to this 114 and it's the same thing which makes me wonder why the VPN guys just can't kill that IP but they don't they just leave it there. This is a mess! Yes so to accentuate the point and the warning uh this show Has consistently warned that you are a fool if you try to build your business on these free platforms And I'm looking specifically at you youtubers because your life is ending and if people don't know it yet I'd like to play a couple of clips here Which were released by the YouTube family partnership division? Because

2:02:04 Google, yes. Google lost... well there was a lawsuit and they were penalized under the terms of COPA, the Child Online Privacy Prevention Act or COPPA because COPPA is... privacy protection not prevention. Oh privacy, sorry thank you! Privacy protection. Children under 13 is the US rule. You may not track and store data on them. And guess what? Google does that all the time, but now the YouTube videos become a problem because there's... The artificial intelligence can't figure out what the intent is if it is good for a kid Is it not good for a kid? Should people under 13 be able to view it so they have pushed this onto

2:03:01 Creators. That's you, YouTubers! Creators under the heading Important Update for Upda- For All Creators Because they're pushing this on you and they're making it sound like it's your problem And you have to comply with COPPA which of course is bullshit because you didn't have to pay any of the fine 170 million dollars. They didn't ask you for a check no, they have to comply by knowing that they can't track behavior of users on certain videos. So instead of an age verification check, which they can't do I mean it's just not gonna happen then no one would watch YouTube anymore They're going to say well creators are responsible for marking it as kid-friendly Which by the way means

2:03:52 You can't make any money because we can't personalize ads as you know, they can get a generic ad. It'll only be for stuff for certain age group that basically I got the clips here in fact will get into it and then I can explain more about the problem is cause well yes I do have there is one simple easy to easy fix and just beyond me why they just don't do that what's that stop tracking people Yes, but then where would the... How would they monetize? We can't monetize if we don't track people. Here's the important update! If you create content for YouTube this video is very important to watch as it describes changes to the upload process all of your existing videos and potentially your monetization Oh yes I'm Lauren and I am head of family partnerships here at YouTube Hi Lauren I'm gonna go through important new requirements for all videos that you should take action on as soon as possible

2:04:48 I'll provide some background on what's happening, walk you through a new audience setting in YouTube Studio and how to use it. And then answer some questions you might have about this update." Back in September, we shared the steps we're taking to address a recent settlement with the US Federal Trade Commission that will help creators comply with The Children's Online Privacy Protection Act known as COPPA. I love how they make it all about you complying that you're not distributing Google is distributing this is the beauty of what they're doing and other applicable laws In order to help you comply with the law We are now required to ask you to mark all your videos as made for kids or not

2:05:32 You know your videos and audience best, so we've launched a new audience setting that lets you tell us if your videos are made for kids or not. In addition to this setting will use machine learning systems to help us find content that is clearly made for kids but don't rely on our systems to set content for you like all automated systems it's not perfect if you don't set your audience or if we detect error or abuse We may set your audience for you, but in most cases we'll rely on your audience setting to determine whether a video is made for kids. So this is really interesting what what is something that's made for kids?

2:06:10 And or is it not friendly for kids? Now, Gary. I think the No Agenda cartoon is perfect for kids! Well we will be demonetized de-platformed and run out on a rail because there's all kinds of stuff that makes it not perfect for kids the topics are not perfect for kids at all but we have Uh, adult entertainment. We have language that would be marked different the adult entertainment one it's worse here's a little rundown of the definition of made for kids what's considered made for kids content I think we comply per the FTCs guidance under COPPA when deciding whether or not your channel or video is made for kids you should think about factors like The subject matter of your video

2:05:32 You know your videos and audience best, so we've launched a new audience setting that lets you tell us if your videos are made for kids or not. In addition to this setting will use machine learning systems to help us find content that is clearly made for kids but don't rely on our systems to set content for you like all automated systems it's not perfect if you don't set your audience or if we detect error or abuse We may set your audience for you, but in most cases we'll rely on your audience setting to determine whether a video is made for kids. So this is really interesting what what is something that's made for kids?

2:06:10 And or is it not friendly for kids? Now, Gary. I think the No Agenda cartoon is perfect for kids! Well we will be demonetized de-platformed and run out on a rail because there's all kinds of stuff that makes it not perfect for kids the topics are not perfect for kids at all but we have Uh, adult entertainment. We have language that would be marked different the adult entertainment one it's worse here's a little rundown of the definition of made for kids what's considered made for kids content I think we comply per the FTCs guidance under COPPA when deciding whether or not your channel or video is made for kids you should think about factors like The subject matter of your video

2:07:00 You want to run down the subject of our videos? Give you a little idea if that's good or not. What is deconstruction now, okay Let's look at animated no agenda and even just the titles I have a feeling are not going to comply with what they're looking for we have Noodle boy fart gate. Well, that's for kids you're right there Vocal fry we've got the big ace poopin We've got the club 33 she looks dateable Yeah That's really good. We can do it. We can do that one John I'm sure no problem defying state defining sexual harassment Oh listen to YouTube or your intended audience for the video whether the video includes child actors or models and

2:07:56 Whether the video includes characters, celebrities or toys that appeal to children. Including animated characters or cartoon figures. There you go! Whether the language of the video is intended for children to understand No. Whether the video includes activities that appeal to children such as play acting simple songs or games Or early education... ...Or jingles? Whether the video includes songs stories or poems that appeal to children. Touchebag And any other information you may have To help determine your videos audience Ultimately, we can't provide legal advice. So we're unable to confirm whether or not your content is made for kids that decision is up to you taking into consideration these factors but we want to help you follow the law as much as we can Oh man check out our Help Center and talk to a lawyer if you're still unsure whether or not your content should be marked as major kids it's your problem You are responsible

2:08:49 Okay, let's ask a question since you've been on this I can be the guy. I'm the reporter. I'm asking you questions You know what? What what's going on? What uh So I my contents not for kids Oh That's very good to market not for kids and you probably will not get any advertising Well, wait a minute. If I market for kids isn't gonna be lousy advertising just for kids? That's right But if it's not my market well then what where's Ford Motor they can't put a Ford ad for buying up What f-150 pickup truck do you see the kid on a kids video cuz their kids aren't gonna buy a pickup truck Do you see the conundrum this is the problem there conundrum not mine Yeah but they're making it about you because they want what they really want his brand friendly and

2:09:36 But you have to market for kids because they are not allowed. Just listen to all the... This is the final clip, here they'll explain what it means for you and for YouTube, but mainly what it means for you since you asked a question about your videos. And listen to all the things that the kids won't get which shows you what they are tracking and I guarantee you market not-for-kids? You're reviewed manually! Your shit's gonna get taken down all the time one little thing that could appeal to kids and is going to be a problem If you set your content as made for kids What does this mean for your channel

2:10:14 We will start limiting the data we collect on Made for Kids content to comply with the law. Because of this, videos that you mark as Made for Kids will be treated differently on YouTube. Some features like comments will no longer be available. Most importantly those videos won't show personalized ads so some creators may see a decrease in revenue. What other features will no longer be available if I set my content as made-for-kids? Starting in January, if you mark a specific video as made for kids, features like comments personalized advertising info cards end screens and more won't be available on individual videos. If your entire channel is set as made for kids your videos won't have any of those features

2:10:57 Your channel also won't have stories, the community tab, the notification bell and your viewers won't be able to save to watch later or save to playlist. Keep in mind that these restrictions are to follow the law." Isn't that cool how all those things that they're tracking do they now have to turn off? To follow the law of course they make it sound like it's your problem but that's all the things they take into consideration to see what Who the hell you are and what you're interested in if you don't set your content appropriately this may result in compliance issues for You under COPPA and other laws Now now, you're not compliant under cop. I find this fantastic What they're doing? I also find it part of my over arching theme

2:11:39 About these some of these companies and YouTube would be one of them where the bean counters have come in and they said what? Are we got a this is costing us too much money. What do you know he do how what's our excuse for stopping the comments How do we call the herd because the comments are part of that all of theory yes You know there's comments at some point costs bandwidth I mean all those thousands millions of a millions and millions explain the olive theory again, because I think it was Give it up by the story that goes around about the kramer crawford i can't remember his name is said the same thing last time was a c.e.o of american airlines used to fly in first class on his own planes instead of a private jet and guys talking to him and he's bitching about the food, end the ceo says well you know these all of us

2:12:32 It turns out that we take one olive off of one meal on every flight, it saves us $25 million dollars because of this one olive. That's fantastic! And so it's like that's why you know we do these things and Most people don't understand because we're all running little companies or we're employees. We're not looking at the multi-million, multi-billion dollar companies where one little thing according to the bean counters going over the spreadsheets

2:13:13 They look at one thing and say, holy crap we could be making another $10 million a year if we could find some excuse to get rid of the comments because it's chewing up bandwidth. It all adds up! The 170 million dollar fine... that'll get your attention. I mean its not big for Google by any means but it gets your attention Yeah, the bean counters don't like it and they're looking for cost cutting all the time. And this is just looks like an excuse to cut costs I mean this is like again the mail chimp didn't confirm this the mail chip guy didn't confirm this but I still think there was a uh you know occasionally they you know throw up just like the mailman doesn't want deliver the mail you find a bunch of mail every once in awhile This happens all over the country You find a bunch of mail in the garbage Well The point being

2:14:04 that we sometimes are somewhat from the future, we see things coming down the pike. We've promised you that you cannot monetize the network and that is exactly the problem that YouTube is running into You cannot do it! It eventually ends...it just eventually ends because you run into all these problems as far as I know And I was there at the creation of podcasting. They called me the podfather until everyone else started taking the name You can't monetize The Network is only one way to go we've tried everything John you've been there through an entire Podcast network, the only way that seems to work is value for value Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah

2:14:57 Now we do have a few people to thank for show 1194 the Thanksgiving Day special and it's special because we're the only ones working on Thanksgiving. Very special! Special for us! Sir Patrick Knight of the so-called hills or this It's funny. No, wait a minute. It's night of the Southern California Hills but So Cal so I'm thinking at the so called Hills like it. I think I'm using that $150 Thank You sir Patrick sir Austin Baron of Puget Sound 133 33 happy Thanksgiving he says to Christopher Redgar

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2:16:40 Karma yeah, we break for that shit and we throw in a go and we throw in a goat you bet sir Steve $100 Jason gay $100 sir Scott Morgan out of Austin Texas on her daughter stops upset. This is the Donations that came in from the five one two local meetup And sir Scott wanted to make sure that we did everyone heard that he didn't just take the money and run He's always very worried about stuff And also to please go to no agenda meetups calm and get in touch with Scott he set up an email server because they're doing I think December 6th, I believe which of course sucks because I can't be there. I'll be in the Netherlands They're doing the 5-112 local Shoot night or something they going to the roof shooting. Yeah who's shooting? So thank you very much to the local 512 Donations and Thank You sir Scott

2:17:38 That came in as one of those bank checks. It's interesting. Yes, that's why yeah because he collected the cash and you send it off as a check Sir Chris Gray of the Isle of Wight, 8888. I didn't know we had anybody there. We should all be thankful for no agenda he says." I used to fly there all the time when i lived in Guilford. Yeah what's it like? It's well first of all the airstrip on the isle of wight is fantastic! It's on a cliff so either landing or taking off depending on the wind direction you're coming over this cliff it's spectacular and it's kind of a sloping

2:18:14 landing strips, runway. So it has its challenges but everyone lands there to go to this crab restaurant which is up on the cliff because very small I mean it's not a big island at all you know it's picturesque So people just go there to eat crab? Yeah, well in America people go fly their airplanes to get a hamburger somewhere else and in England... That's true. The most expensive hamburger. A hundred dollar hamburger exactly! Yeah I just rely on the Hamburglar Simon Libuzuski what do you think? Yeah Libuzuski 8008 also sir cross stitch 8008 and Sir Brian Kaufman from Scottsdale 7575

2:19:05 I've had Sir Green of Ham's, I think he gave up on us. Maybe. Sir Pilgrim 7474 from Fredericksburg Virginia and this is a billion night yes once again on Thanksgiving Day just as in 2014 A pilgrim is being recognized as a valued producer the best podcast in the universe it's been a couple of years since I was knighted sir pilgrim but through determination and monthly subscriptions I have finally reached the title of baronet accounting below I would like to have my title changed to Sir Pilgrim, Baronet of Massaponix. How do you pronounce that? Baronet of Massaponix? I think so. Massa-ponex. Oh, mass... I think it's Massaponix. Massaponix. Massaponix. Massaponix. Massaponix. Massaponix. It's been a while since... Baronet of some...

2:19:56 I'm gonna struggle with this in a minute. It's been awhile since I have brewed an artisan small batch of handcrafted beer for the peerage and serving the roundtable, the ingredients are little sparse and stale please refresh the stock of malted barley and hops at the round table and i'll work on some beer you bet it there you bet we'll make sure that malted barley and hops are to Round Table and thank you! You will being upgraded momentarily okay good Onward with Jeremy Biglin, 69-69. He knew it was time to donate when redeeming gift pin number was 333. That will do it. Steve Sims in Nayarit Mexico. Nayarit I don't know love the show man he says

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2:22:15 We might have to work on getting that one. That sounds pretty funny. Brad Horowitz, 5005 and Sir Scott Nelson in Melbourne Florida. Melbourne Florida of 5001 the following people are $50 donors name and location if I got it on here including Joe Winkie in Santa Rosa California Eric Dutro in Flint Michigan Paul Dubois in Kerr-Hunkson New York Amy Weaver Ben Boney in Knoxville, Tennessee and he needs a de-douching. You've been de-douched! Jennifer Whita? This is Dame Jennifer I want to read this happy Thanksgiving I'm thankful yes

2:22:59 Dame Jennifer. I'm thankful for your dedication providing us with the best podcast in universe and want to show my appreciation with a donation, my discretionary spending is limited but it's important to chip in when able so here you go! I am in the process of relocating to the Atlanta area and while the real estate karma worked I need a bit of Pelosi jobs karma To speed up these interviews, do it in a moment. I'd also like a mac and cheese since my sister-in-law is making some for dinner tomorrow." Almost giggled in her face when I heard the menu. We'll do that momentarily Jennifer. Vasanth Dharmaraj, I'm hoping, in Allentown New York chipping in Daniel Sens in Spring Texas Elwa Leibel

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2:25:11 Happy birthday, happy birthday. I'm no other champion. Winding out the month getting towards the end of the year it's November 28 and we say happy birthday to Steve Sims who'll be celebrating on the 30th Sir Robert of Souvidre celebrates today as does Beach View Farms wife who is smoking hot Is she also named Miss Beachview Farm? Celebrating today November 28th Happy Birthday from everybody here at The Best Podcast in the Universe! It's your birthday yeah do-do-do-do-do In the upgrade lane today, Sir Hubert becomes Sir Hubert Knight of the Wild East of the Middle Kingdom Uncle of The Tiger That was a restatement of his name and appropriately so. Sir Madden Melbourne becomes Viscount of Victoria And Sir Pilgrim becomes Baronet of Mesoponox

2:26:05 We think. Congratulations on your title upgrades that will be reflected everywhere you change it because that's how the NO Agenda show keeps track of everything, is a pretty cool honor based system and thank you for your support of the No Agenda Show Best Podcast in The Universe before we do our meetups I would like to do our one we have a daming today so that's singular which does deserve a special turkey blade yeah there you go very nice mrs. Mike Clark Come on up here to the podium. You are now officially at the round table! This is where the Knights and the Dames feast on all kinds of goodies, certainly you know what a lot of them are And thank you for your support in showing the amount of $1,000 or more I am extremely proud to pronounce the K-U Dame Kitty

2:26:56 of the no agenda right roundtable and for you we have hookers and blow rent boys in Chardonnay or as you wanted Kahlua and cookies maybe some malted barley and hops how about some Parliament and pale ale or maybe harlots and haldol vodka vanilla geishas and sake Ruben s woman and rosé mud and me ginger ale and gerbils no no well just stick with breast milk and pablum for today. You can go to knowagenda nation dot com slash rings Eric DeShiel will and take your finger size, a place where we can send everything off to. And please put that on knowagentosocial.com somewhere we can see it! We'd love to see people with their rings

2:27:36 Yes, it's like a party and they're being held all over the globe. And people are getting tremendous benefit from this quick overview of what's coming up on Saturday the Southeast London UK number five that'll be at two o'clock in the afternoon at The Real Ale Away Also on Saturday the local 805 Santina Valley, California 5 o'clock. This is Baron Sir DH Slammer and Baroness Dame Bangbang If you've never met these people go to that meetup You'll love it find all the information at no agenda meetups comm And on Sunday the old San Juan Puerto Rico meet up now this is Jambo Joe Joe Winky who will be hosting that he must be in town for some kind of a convention

2:28:24 We love the Jambo products. Oh yeah, they're great! And then on Monday an interesting date, an interesting day of the week Kitchener Ontario in Canada 8 o'clock this will be the second Southern Ontario Slave Union They are still working on their local name and Sir Strumming Knight of the Bog of Eternal Stench that's Josh who'll be organizing that And well, that's what we have for this coming weekend. I'll do the rest We also have two reports briefly there was a big meetup in Sydney the Down Under Meet up Quick report here from Sir Chris Wilson Sunday at the gasoline pony was a very successful meet-up with 10 attendees some from as far away as the Blue Mountains Doral and the Central Coast

2:29:15 Sir Andy Cantrell bought his goat along for extra karma we drank plenty of Merrick Ville's finest ale from the local brewer Willie the boatman and exchanged tales of being hit in the mouth hitting others in the mouth and how Karma has been fortuitous for all of us in its own unique no agenda way Illuminati a called-in for chat and a photo with all of us on FaceTime. Well, that's good I like how this cross border thing where there's a meetup and then people from a whole nother country call in and and say hi to everybody. Why does it kind of make sense to me that in some crazy Australian bar someone would come in with a goat and no one would think twice about? Oh, no! It's totally cool. Hey... Or some guy said that's not a goat this is a goat mate

2:30:01 Movie joke. After many hours, many more ales plenty of free and open-minded exchanges of ideas and recording the Gitmo Nation national anthem on my Blue Spark digital mix I threw in my backpack we said our goodbyes to those who took their life and family responsibilities seriously And then they just went, oh well I should read this. The rest of us being Sir Ned, future Sir David and Phil and I shared a short taxi ride F Uber to my home Oh boy for pizza and red wine including a six-year old Wyndham Estate bin 888 Cabernet I'd bought a few years ago for Jean Claude but I figured it wasn't up to scratch when it was much younger I must say it had improved remarkably with age. And then the Mossad handler Sir Brian of London called in from Israel

2:30:48 Sir Felix entertained us with his stories and no agenda banter, taking full advantage of our consumption of three bottles of wine over dinner and had us in tears of laughter. Sadly, Sunday rapidly came to a conclusion and so was Sydney's train service. So we thanked each other for our courage checked the timetable and I pointed my fellow cult members in the general direction of the train station A few blocks away where they safely traveled and arrived home Eventually the next day I woke with a hangover And a new episode of The Best Podcasting Universe on my phone and a smile on my face! And i will play the Gitmo Nation anthem as sung by our Sydney meetup

2:31:26 at the end of the show and then we have one other report it's actually pretty good from Sir Hendrik he hosted the Utrecht meetup in The Netherlands short report here for the Utrecht meetup or The Hague as you said on Sunday I'm sorry That's my mistake. It went well at the second location, D-Bass where at the same time a rock concert was happening A group of 10 and made up mostly meet uppers from the past two times Unfortunately only one night ring was spotted Dame Jacobina does not seem to get her ring size across or confirmed by The Shill Nothing to work on that send me an email

2:32:04 Other attendees included Ed van Dyk, Sir N. Depody from Portugal Peter Boekelman Bas Lassonder Guus Cadaver which is like Gus Cadaver Just the way it sounds. Sales guy Joop, he's been around forever Sir Spork and another anonymous producer I later heard Sir Spork enjoyed a vegetarian meal for which he used regular cutlery Oh well! I brought the zoom to catch a clip with all the names Meanwhile i'm fighting my smartphone on laptop To get pics transferred Greetings from trajectum sir Hendrik This is Sir Hendrik at the first meetup In Gitmo Lowlands Utrecht

2:32:46 10 attendees and we'll ask them their name. What's your name? Bastiaan. Stillskayub OTG? Game of the Doomsday Deniers I'm OTG We had to go by Moscow Serendipity Ed van Dijk This is Peter That's our group They sound baked, man I'd love that. It would be plastered. I love it! They could be baked. Thank you, thank you so much NoahJennaMeetups.com go find one near you if there's a one listed make one it's easy the website helps I have a couple of different things for you know because I know we're gonna run out of time not really I want to play before we go okay

2:33:46 Well, the first one is the romaine lettuce. I'm sure you want to play that one. Ah! I have that too so that knocks me down to two No no...I don't have the romaine lettuce Oh i have the romaine lettuce Let's play it. Let's play Romaine Lettuce There's breaking news tonight from the CDC A nationwide warning that could affect your dinner An E-coli outbreak linked to romaine lettuce has left dozens seriously ill in 16 states Jamie Yucas on what you need to do to protect your family An urgent warning to consumers, if you don't know where your romaine lettuce is from...don't eat it. Public health officials are investigating an E-coli outbreak of food poisoning that has sickened 40 people 28 have been hospitalized so far at least five with kidney failure the outbreak started two months ago near Salinas California in an area that produces more than 60% of the nation's romaine lettuce it was also

2:34:41 the ground zero for a major outbreak last year that cost the industry $160 million. Probably over 200 pounds of lettuce we've thrown away The CDC is telling customers to throw away any romaine lettuce with Salinas on the label. Lettuce that isn't labeled and ready-made salad mix that contains romaine. Restaurant owners are being told to take it off the menu This happens like every year we get a romaine. Everybody in this family when this story cropped up at different times said the same thing. It's always the romaine, I've heard it- Why is it always romaine? And it's not like the worst lettuce for example. I would think green leaf lettuce is more likely to be contaminated than romaine because it's really a different, it's a lettuce that has all kinds of nooks and crannies that can catch whatever is causing this problem but why is it always romaine there is something fishy about this story

2:35:41 And it's gone, I think this is the third or fourth time we've had a romaine lettuce problem. Yes! Well let me see... Is there some kind of uh.... association, the Romaine Lettuce Farmers Association. Apparently Salinas is responsible for 60% of the world's or the United States' romaine consumption? Is it maybe a big grower trying to put the little growers out of business? Or so is this some kind... Maybe this is some sort of scam where you've poisoned the crop? Well here's the clip from last year Closer to home, health officials have expanded their warning about romaine lettuce. They say if you don't know where it's from throw it away. Carter Evans has more on this

2:36:24 The growing outbreak appears to be caused by a particularly severe strain of E. coli more than half of those infected have had to be hospitalized CBS chief medical correspondent Dr John Lapuque E.coli infection of this type can be very serious and you can have diarrhea which is often bloody, abdominal pain reported victims so far at least 60 people have been sickened in 16 states it's almost the same how many states was it on in that end then in the new report They said the same thing. This is very weird. There's breaking news tonight from the CDC. Protect your family. Urgent warning to consumers, if you don't know where your romaine lettuce is from... Don't eat it!

2:37:07 Public health officials are investigating an E. coli outbreak of food poisoning that has sickened 40 people 28 have been hospitalized so far at least five with kidney failure the outbreak started two months ago near Salinas California in an area that produces more than 60% of the nation's romaine lettuce it was also the ground zero for a major outbreak last year that cost the industry 160 million dollars. So it is, it's the same thing! Dumbs. Now back to the old report... so far at least 60 people have been sick. What? It's almost the same amount of people in 16 states. The fluid loss alone can lead to dehydration okay this is so that place needs to be shut down

2:37:55 I mean, this... how can that be? How do we know this is not an extortion racket? It's got to be something. I mean it's almost the same report 15 states versus 16 states 40 people versus 60 people the same place and you can't have this happen two years in a row all they needed in that report was to throw a 33 and it would have been complete. I smell rat There's something amiss, there's no doubt about it. It is not being reported as such. Nobody has reported this is the interesting part because we heard this report from different sources nobody has reported that any of the details of the two compared to last year and this year they're just reporting this years mostly. They mentioned there was a report last year but I think more than one last year

2:38:53 The Food and Drug Administration needs to get on this place because California, once again is poisoning the rest of the country. You guys are shitty over there man I don't like what you're doing to us This is very disturbing We'll stay in California As you know, I've been tracking the micro grids as the way to solve all problems. Not just the problem of Pacific Gas and Electric lighting fires because they can't seem to keep their wires from doing so but also it's a great way for ultimate control where we can say, I'm sorry we gotta turn off your refrigerator because we've gotta conserve a little bit while the micro grids are rolling out

2:39:36 and they're very successful. People are extremely excited about them of course this is only a test so the microgrid is not quite ready for prime time yet. And to find out more about these so-called microgrids we turn next to the KCBS Ring Central Newsline and check in with San Francisco Chronicle Energy and business reporter JD Morris Who is writing about this in the paper today? JT. This is pretty fascinating all the way around to what degree did this seem to work during these PSPS's? It seemed to work pretty well, I mean they have been talking about doing that for awhile particularly and Angwin and Napa County And they were able to keep

2:40:15 The parts of that energizer they wanted to have stay on as well as a couple other spots throughout the month of October when they turned off power. However, this isn't like traditional microgrid in the way that people normally mean when they refer to that these are temporary diesel fuel situations which is not normally what people are talking about when they refer to microgrids." I love how his voice goes up because he's so annoyed by the fact that he has to... this guy is in on it, he's all in on the microgrids. He's so annoyed that he has to report that they're dirty nasty diesel generators that provided this power then his voice goes well these are really not the traditional ones really not the real microgrids! Very diesel fueled situations which is not normally what people are talking about when they refer to micro grids.

2:41:05 This was able to keep power on for some areas, and I will note there was also a delay because of the temporary nature of this. It actually takes a fair amount of time for them to switch from the normal grid to this temporary solution and then turn power back to the normal grid afterwards so it's not a perfectly seamless thing But the guy had to because all these guys are out with those diesel generators pulling on a rope to get the thing to start Here's but he does give us a glimpse into the future of micro grids in California now contrast that to place like The Blue Lake Rancheria up in Humboldt County which has its own light permanent

2:41:48 solar-powered microgrid set up with them, you know they told me that... Wait write down the name of this place because we got to track that. And solar powered my great was it County has its own like permanent Solar-powered microgrid Set up with them. You know they told me that It's a totally seamless thing like they don't even know when the rest of the grid goes down That's just a more expensive solution. We're just out of time, but I did want to ask you... You write that PG&E is hoping to set up about 40 of these microgrids in coming years? They are and we don't know where those are going to be but maybe it's possible that a lot of the places that have been turned off repeatedly might see some benefits from that in future

2:42:36 All right, there you go much more expensive solution. He's been told it goes really fast He's a reporter doesn't have any information but there's gonna be about 40 of them micro grids in your future micro scam Yeah, the Brooks I saw one or run by before the show and from a longer clip But we're not gonna play that clip. Yeah, I agree with that Yeah, I agree with dad at the end of the show Yeah, yeah. Okay I knew it wasn't that exciting Well it's okay- I had uh...I have someone What did I get here? This is also not great but It could've been an MTV VJ What's that? I think that's a lot better Okay

2:43:25 I have a Julian Assange update, so it's going to be old news if we don't play it pretty soon. Earlier this week Swedish prosecutors have for the third time dropped an investigation into sexual assault allegations that Assange has long denied The move comes as Julian Assange's legal team is fighting his possible extradition to the United States, where he faces up to 175 years in prison on hacking charges and 17 counts of violating the rarely invoked World War I-era Espionage Act for his role in exposing U.S. war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan.

2:44:03 A full extradition hearing will take place in February. Julian Assange has been locked up at London's Belmarsh prison since April when he was dragged out of the Ecuadorian embassy by London police. He had taken refuge inside the Ecuadorian embassy for over seven years to avoid extradition Yeah, you're right I'm worried about him too It could be way too late This guy is going to die That's every report. I see you kind of says that this is it he's done Well, that's one way of taking care of the problem although wikiLeaks is still going fine without him And it's just they're setting an example hmm This is odd the Sydney in the morning gitmo nation Unsupported file format what does this? Oh the song yeah? They probably send it as augur borbis now. I can actually actually couldn't I can handle aug oh

2:45:05 Yeah, that's what everyone says. Okay All right Well I wasn't quite ready but that was definitely my cue to play the outro music Alright What I will tell you is we've got some Sir Chris Wilson Hugh Allison Jesse Coy Nelson and the false flags With Rob do sir Ducifer coming up and now I'll have to play the the get mo anthem on Sunday Everyone coming over to your place today No, JC is gonna host this. Oh that's right! We're also going to Ellen she's cooking she's hosting so... You don't have to clean up the horrible mess a Thanksgiving meal usually results in. It rocks right Boomer? Okay Boomer. Let the Millennials take care of it

2:45:53 And we look forward to seeing you Sunday. And of course, we'd love for you to support the show a little bit of value for the value go to Dvorak dot org slash na To support us coming to you from the opportunity zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin Texas as this FEMA region number six on all the maps. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley, I am John C. DeVore. We return on Sunday right here with another No Agenda episode The Best Podcast in the Universe Until then adios mofos and sub! Happy Thanksgiving Well yes I am an idealist And i'm still young enough to be that way

2:46:41 However, oh really the kids the kids these days now they look at a piece of crap truck that fails a demo, fails the demo and they're all jitty. And they love it! You put down your $100 on a credit card and then you're in line to buy it so that buying one is... It'll never ship? Probably never ship The fact that this guy can do a demo fails horribly twice and everyone's like nooo that's okay its Elon stuff This is the magic of Steve Jobs Well, no. These guys have literally... I'm telling you nobody wants to believe me when i say this but they've sold themselves out to evil forces it creates this magic around them and there's nothing you can do about it You mean white black magic?

2:47:28 Got a black magic Elon I've got a black magic Elon I've got a black magic Elon, got a cybertruck i must see. I've got a black magic Elon he's trying to get a hundo out of me. That way you should just hook onto the boomers! Boomer equals winner! World class loser! What are you man? You loser! I'm a loser! Lose-er

2:48:34 I love lugeing, it's the funniest thing you've ever seen. Can you imagine if your watching lugeeing and there is a guy you know? I think lugee is fun but skull is more fun. Boomer equals winner! two turkeys, with a deadly secret. What happened? I don't even, I never saw this news. I was watching the football. It's panic! I now have the duty of ending the suspense... ...of our feathery guest. To this turkey and his traveling companion, This will not be their last Thanksgiving They will live out their days in comfort by virtue of an unconditional presidential pardon They are safe from harm Two shooters just shooting people on a highway! Help me! Help me!

2:49:43 This year's turkey, his name is Curran. He traveled here from Goldsboro North Carolina He gets out, shoots the cop right away. And then he stole a mail truck? President Kennedy was even given a turkey with a sign around its neck that said good eating Mr president but he showed mercy and 20 years ago this Thanksgiving the first President Bush issued the first official presidential pardon for a turkey Get off the air! Yeah people started running panic everywhere A lucky turkey gets a presidential pardon. That turkey is so lucky, I've never seen such a beautiful turkey! Today's lucky bird and guest of honor is named Pease along with his alternate name Carrots. Two different shooters two different cities... So we may never know exactly what was going on

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