Episode 1181 · Thursday, 17 October 2019

Solutioning

Corporate giants use professional sports as a geopolitical shield while domestic political theater reaches a fever pitch through campaign rallies and high-stakes arrests at Dulles Airport.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 47m listen | 41 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 1181

About this episode

Nike and the NBA face intense scrutiny as internal leverage tactics regarding China trade relations come to light. Sports commentator Jason Whitlock and archival audio of Barack Obama at Nike headquarters reveal how the Trans-Pacific Partnership was designed to shift manufacturing advantages, while the Trump administration counters with a Phase One trade deal involving $50 billion in agricultural purchases. The intersection of corporate interests and geopolitical maneuvering highlights a growing rift between American tech entities like Apple and Riot Games and the political realities of the Hong Kong protests.

Donald Trump utilized a Minneapolis campaign rally to debut a revamped rhetorical style, mocking Nancy Pelosi and performing dramatizations of the Peter Strzok and Lisa Page text messages. The legal landscape shifts as Rudy Giuliani associates Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman face arrest at Dulles Airport over campaign finance violations linked to Ukraine. Meanwhile, the CNN LGBTQ town hall featured Kamala Harris discussing pronouns and Joe Biden referencing San Francisco bathhouses, while Beto O'Rourke proposed stripping tax-exempt status from religious institutions that oppose same-sex marriage.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak explore the breakdown of urban management, from the Berkeley Aquatic Park poop contamination to the resignation of Austin’s homeless strategy officer after a single day. The program highlights the absurdity of the United Nations liquidity crisis, where officials have restricted escalator use and fountain operations to save costs. The hosts also honor the No Agenda peerage, including Grand Duke Nussbaum and Sir Clay Alchemist, for their continued support of the value-for-value model.


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CHAPTER 01 / 41 Discussion

Texas Longhorns Football, No Agenda Social Gif Blitz

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program discussing the recent Texas Longhorns versus Oklahoma football game. Dvorak details his return to the No Agenda Social platform after a long absence, noting he accidentally followed Curry while performing a "gif blitz" of images.

texas longhorns· oklahoma university· no agenda social· gifs· sports· austin· silicon valley

00:00 Turn off the fountain, Juves. Still yelling hook'em horns and broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 in the frontier of Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state. In the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. DuVorak. You have me completely confused with hookum horns. I know thinking I'm thinking what is he? What does even know what that means? I do man. It was the game yesterday the game the game Yes, we lost. I know we lost You should know that OS OSU UT what a great game Exactly

00:56 I just want people to know that even at my age you can still brush up a bit and get into sports, especially if it's local. By the way, it's not OSU, the game you lost. What was it? Oklahoma. Oh, that's what I meant. Oklahoma University. OSU is Oklahoma State. That's why I said OSU, Oklahoma State University. No it's not Oklahoma State, that's a different school. Well okay if you think you know better than an Austin resident that's fine for me. Yeah now you sound like a lib joe. Said the man who finally followed me on no agenda social. Oh, what's up with that? You check it always see okay? You checked in for the first time in a year I checked I'm on it 24-7 July, but I Checked myself out

01:49 And so when I rechecked myself in, I realized I couldn't find the right link and so I clicked on one of the dropdown links that happened to be your page. So it checked me into your page and I said, oh, okay, I can get in from here. And then I said, what? I'm not following Adam? Because there's a little button there. I said, oh, I'll correct that immediately. And I clicked on it and then I put myself back in there and I did a clip blitz. You did, you did a little clip blitz of gifs. Whatever that is a gif blitz. That's what it is. That's one for the records. A gif blitz. Well then let me just stay with my favorite topic, which is sports.

CHAPTER 02 / 41 Discussion

Jason Whitlock, Nike Leverage Over NBA China Relations

Sports commentator Jason Whitlock claims Nike is the primary driver behind the NBA's controversial relationship with China. The analysis suggests Nike uses the NBA as leverage against Donald Trump because of his opposition to the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), a trade deal favored by the shoe giant.

jason whitlock· nike· nba· china· lebron james· barack obama· tpp

02:35 Yes, yes, I have I'm interested well I was watching my buddy over there on FS1 Jason Whitlock as usual. Yeah, the guy's great Jason Whitlock is great and he decided to explain to everybody something we kind of already knew this is regarding the The NBA and China but for those who have not followed it outside of the United States one tweet from one guy who said, hey I stand behind Hong Kong, sent the Chinese into a tizzy. Who knew that there's like 300 million basketball fans in China? Oh it is very popular. And Jason Whitlock explains it just a little bit further. Nike is in control of basketball. The NBA, college basketball, high school.

03:28 Nike is the real person driving this conversation and this thing with China. If you go back to, now I'm going to connect it to politics. In 2015, in May of 2015, President Barack Obama went to Nike's headquarters in Portland, Oregon and announced his defense of the TPP, Trans-Pacific Partnership. That's right. Trade deal that was going to be very favorable for Nike, for China. Who's the president that came after Obama and walked America away from the TPP? Donald Trump.

04:10 Who is the shoe company that employs LeBron James, Colin Kaepernick, and these other athletes that smear Donald Trump as racist? Who are the people constantly criticizing Donald Trump? NBA, Steve Kerr, Greg Popovich. The NBA answers to Nike. Nike's a $40 billion business. The NBA is an $8 billion business. President Obama, the basketball president, friendly relationship with the NBA, went to Nike's headquarters to announce his defense.

04:49 the TPP. This thing is very simple. This is about money. This is about a president that won't cooperate with what Nike wants done. Nike is using the NBA and its leverage over the NBA to go after this guy because they disagree with him about his policies as it relates to trade in China. Yeah! China owns the NBA! Holy mackerel, you gotta get Clip of the Day for that discovery. Boom! I want you to credit whoever it was that sent it to you. I mean, when you really just, you know, when you use your skill at sports, you can, you know, you can figure stuff out. Now, I did a lot of searching for this show today, going back in our archives.

CHAPTER 03 / 41 Discussion

Barack Obama 2015 Nike Headquarters Speech, TPP Manufacturing

Archival audio from 2015 features President Barack Obama at Nike headquarters in Beaverton, Oregon, promoting the Trans-Pacific Partnership. The discussion highlights how the trade deal aimed to raise labor standards in Vietnam to make it a more expensive manufacturing competitor to China, benefiting Nike's global factory interests.

barack obama· nike· tpp· vietnam· manufacturing· beaverton· labor standards

05:38 And it's always fun to see how much we covered. And I use bingit.io. Bingit.io is where all of the show notes, you can even search by at the mp3 level. You can get anything you want from this show going back at least six, seven years, no I think nine years on bingit.io and I found a piece of that speech from Obama in 2015 at Nike headquarters in Beaverton and it becomes very apparent. I don't know if we caught it at the time because we just didn't like the TPP and its secrecy in general and it was very, I mean we couldn't really find any sketchy, very sketchy but

06:20 When you hear this, all of a sudden it will become very clear what it was about. The Trans-Pacific Partnership that we're working on. And this is at the Beaverton Nike headquarters on campus. It's the biggest trade deal that we're working on right now. Has to do with the Asia-Pacific region. And it reflects our values in ways that frankly some previous trade agreements did not. It's the highest standard, most progressive trade deal in history. It's got strong enforceable provisions for workers, preventing things like child labor. It's got strong enforceable provisions on the environment, helping us to do things that haven't been done before to prevent wildlife trafficking or deforestation or dealing with our oceans. That's always the setup, but actually before we get to it, who would be in competition with China when it comes to the NBA?

07:14 It's not that China and the NBA, the Europe of course is the big basketball force. No, no, and when it comes to manufacturing it becomes obvious. And these are enforceable in the agreement. And Nike operates in the Pacific region so they understand the competitive pressures they're under. Nike has factories all around the world. And let's face it. Mark, I think doesn't mind me saying it. He looks to Mark, the CEO of Nike. Oh, is it okay if I say this is all right, Mark? Mark, you don't mind, do you? They're on it. Nike has factories all around the world. And let's face it, Mark, I think doesn't mind me saying it, that some of these countries, they don't have the standards for wages and labor conditions that we have here.

07:59 So, when you look at a country like Vietnam, under this agreement, Vietnam would actually— Vietnam, the absolute— competition to China when it comes to manufacturing. A little country of Vietnam is there they're scared of? Yeah, well they just want to squash it. Squash them, squash those Viet Cong. So when you look at a country like Vietnam under this agreement Vietnam would actually for the first time have to raise its labor standards. It would have to set a minimum wage. It would have to pass safe workplace laws to protect its workers.

08:37 It would even have to protect workers' freedom to form unions for the very first time. That's great for China! That wouldn't make a difference. You can't have unions in China. No, of course not. No unions in China. So... Wow. Yeah, there you go. And Vietnam is a very advanced, if people should go visit, it's really fantastic place. China is asshole. By the way, China is asshole.com goes to no agenda show.com now. Oh God, there goes our visa. The visa. Oh man, no this is fantastic. And so now it's coming out, you know, all of these little bits and bobs about which companies are really at the behest of China. Apple of course, who told multiple Apple TV Plus show developers, hey, don't piss off China, man.

CHAPTER 04 / 41 Discussion

Chinese Ownership, US Entertainment and Tech Companies

A list of American entertainment and technology entities under Chinese influence or ownership is examined, including AMC Theaters and Dick Clark Productions. Recent reports indicate Apple and Riot Games have pressured developers and players to avoid sensitive political topics involving China.

amc theaters· dick clark productions· riot games· apple· cirque du soleil· stx entertainment

09:35 Riot games urging League of Legends pros to shut up on sensitive issues and let me just give you a list here of 12 Companies owned by the Chinese in the entertainment business AMC theaters Dick Clark productions Dick Clark productions. I mean they do the Golden Globes American Music Awards New Year's Ball New Year's Rockin Eve, of course They don't do the Golden Globes. I don't think yes they do. Yeah, they sure do the Clark production produces the Golden Globes and STX Entertainment. Let's see anything else we'd actually know here. Well, they also have their hands in all the big Hollywood studios. Yeah, Cirque du Soleil. They own all that. What? Yes, they own the Cirque. When did the Chinese buy out Cirque du Soleil? Yeah, they bought them out last year. They acquired a majority stake for 1.5 billion dollars.

CHAPTER 05 / 41 Discussion

Donald Trump Oval Office Presser, China Trade Deal Phase One

President Donald Trump announces a "Phase One" trade agreement with China during an Oval Office press briefing. The deal reportedly includes significant Chinese purchases of American agricultural products, projected to reach $40 billion to $50 billion, benefiting US farmers and equipment manufacturers like John Deere.

donald trump· china· trade deal· agriculture· john deere· intellectual property· farmers

10:31 Not bad for a bunch of people running around in tights. That's pretty good. Now, but we did have some actual stuff happen. Before we get to, I'm sure you have a report of the president's new stand-up routine. I have the Minnesota stand-up routine where he was doing his, I think, his new set. Yeah, we'll get to that right after we go through the China stuff. Because apparently, it was very under-reported, the president did do an Oval Office presser

11:08 on the matter, that we've reached some form of agreement with the Chinas. We've come to a deal pretty much subject to getting it written. It'll take probably three weeks, four weeks or five weeks as you know. We're going to be in Chile together at the big summit and maybe it'll be then or maybe it'll be sometime around then. But we've come to a deal on intellectual property the Two and a half, three times what China had purchased at its highest point thus far. So they were purchasing 16 or 17 billion at the highest point, and that'll be brought up to 40 billion to 50 billion. So I'd suggest the farmers have to go and immediately buy more land.

12:12 and get bigger tractors. They'll be available at John Deere and a lot of other great distributors. On sale now! Go down to Honest Joe's Tractor Sales! Quickly, before we write this all down and it turns out maybe a little different. But we're taking the purchase of agricultural products from 40 to 50 billion, meaning in that neighborhood from 40 to 50 approximately billion. And what they've been doing now, I believe, is about 8 billion, right? Eight. Right now it's eight. The other thing I will say is over the last two weeks a lot of purchases have started going back to our farmers and you've been doing a lot of business with us which we appreciate very much. You know there's nothing like a little bit of fresh Steve Pachenik meat when when something like this happens. In fact I heard about it from Pachenik's YouTube channel before anyone reported on it. Washington Post has

CHAPTER 06 / 41 Discussion

Steve Pieczenik, Trump Business Family Negotiation Tactics

Dr. Steve Pieczenik praises the Trump administration's negotiating team for their business-centric approach to China. Pieczenik argues that Trump's background as a businessman rather than a politician allows for unique outcomes, specifically citing the handling of dynamics in Hong Kong.

steve pieczenik· donald trump· steve mnuchin· hong kong· business family· negotiations

13:09 has something on it today, actually from yesterday. Take this because you don't have to wait for clearance. Yes, exactly. Control had not issued clearances yet. So Pchenik, a two-parter for him, two clips, because he's always long, but I just cut a little bit in the beginning and then the end. First, he really was lauding praise over everybody on the team. This is Dr. Pchenik and I want to give great kudos to Trump, to Mnuchin, to Ross, to Lithgauer, O'Brien, to President Xi, to Vice President, Vice Premier Lee and all the members of the negotiating team on both sides. It was an amazing moment today. Phase one of negotiations had been successful as I predicted. Instead of going head to head in a conflict, which is not what Trump wanted, it's not what I wanted, and it's not what Republicans wanted, we instead went into a negotiation that was very difficult.

14:08 And at times he thought and I thought it wouldn't continue. But I had complete faith in Trump and his team because I knew that historically these were not politicians. These are businessmen. Every time you think that Trump is acting irrationally or erratically or he's not appropriate, I want you to think about one thing. He's a businessman. He's not a politician. The people he appointed, and I got to give kudos to Kushner and Ivanka, Melania, for having brought up the whole team and supporting that team because it was not easy. This is a business family. This is a family that deals in numbers and outcomes.

14:48 And I want to particularly thank our civilian and military intelligence that did a brilliant job of manipulating and controlling the dynamics of Hong Kong. And they resolved it at a propitious time. Yeah, the Keeper and I were talking about Trump and his attitude because, of course, we I didn't see all of it. In fact, I had to watch most on the rerun of his speech in Minneapolis. But rich, truly rich successful people, you know them too John. I'll mention one, Hearst, because you've talked about him before. These people are typically very crass, very rude, complete assholes, and that's just who they are.

CHAPTER 07 / 41 Discussion

Wealthy Business Archetypes, John DeLorean and Succession

The conversation shifts to the crass demeanor often found in successful business moguls, comparing Donald Trump to figures like John DeLorean and William Randolph Hearst. The popularity of television dramas like HBO's Succession is cited as evidence of the public's fascination with dysfunctional business dynasties.

john delorean· william randolph hearst· succession· hbo· business dynasties· demeanor

15:31 They're the opposite in demeanor of politicians, which is... Well, I will say, let me say this in defense of Hearst. He's the least of that type of guy that I know. I've seen him be a douchebag. I've witnessed it. Of course, he was saying something to Ron Bloom, which is, you know, is of the same ilk. I've seen it. I've seen it. There are guys that are way, way beyond. It's the best example of this. I think it used to be, there was a 60, it was a 60 minutes and one of these specials that was done on DeLorean. Oh, John DeLorean. Sure. Who was married to a supermodel and

16:11 He was a big shot and they did this thing and it was just profane from the get-go. I mean, it's just like, oh, and I've run into these guys, all they do is cuss. Yes, yeah, but they're just crass, they don't care, or they certainly, they speak like, oh, yeah, we're in a board meeting or something, it's like, oh, we're going to get the fire, yeah, well, too bad. Yeah, and that's what Pachanik is saying and most people don't have that experience, but it's interesting to note how we love these big business families when they're dramatized.

16:50 You know, the Ewings, in Dynasty, we had the Carringtons, now we have Succession, which is a huge hit. We love these dynastic family business people when they're dramatized and we root for them and hate them at the same time. And when they're dramatized, they downplay it. Exactly. So just so you know, that's what you're seeing and that's what you're getting, but results are either achieved wildly or failures are of course massive. And that's the same with Trump. He's had wild successes and massive failures.

CHAPTER 08 / 41 Discussion

Technology Transfer, Financial Sector Access in China Deal

Further details of the US-China trade negotiations emerge, involving technology transfers in AI and 5G, as well as intellectual property exchanges. The agreement reportedly opens Chinese markets to American financial institutions including Visa, American Express, and Goldman Sachs.

huawei· artificial intelligence· 5g· visa· american express· goldman sachs· intellectual property

17:30 Now to the details, Pachanik knows a little bit more than what the president announced at that Oval Office presser. Now let me explain to you what elements we've agreed on. Number one, we've agreed on technology transfer. That means that United States and China will work on artificial intelligence, on the 5G, on every other component that we have with various companies including Huawei. and other companies where we need to exchange our intellectual property and their intellectual property. That doesn't sound like a win to me, but okay. He sounds like, what is Huawei? That's pretty funny. That's the Steve Pichanik pronunciation of Huawei. Our intellectual property and their intellectual property. So intellectual property comes into the technology transfer. That means

18:20 that whatever we have in the narrative and content and whatever we have in science application, we will also share with the Chinese. Number three, we have an agriculture relationship, which means that we went from five or eight billion dollars in exports from the Midwest to about 50 billion in soybeans and other products. That means Nebraska, Minnesota, Idaho, Utah. All the Midwestern countries are going to do exceedingly well and as Trump said so will John Deere and our farmers. So they will start exporting a lot.

18:56 The important thing to understand, we have financial instruments that will do very well and we will have transparency. That means that China cannot reduce their currency and deflate it or devalue it at a given time so that we have to pay exorbitant fees. In turn, we will have Visa, American Express and all other credit card companies that will be accepted into China as well as Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs. Whoa, that's new. All the credit card companies? Hmm. That's a pretty big deal for the financial sector. Once again. It's going to take a while to break down. Five weeks to write down the deal, as we heard. It takes a while to get it written up.

CHAPTER 09 / 41 Discussion

Chinese Cultural Norms, Hong Kong Protester Humor

The hosts reflect on Chinese cultural differences regarding personal space and queuing. A viral video of a Hong Kong protester calling China "asshole" is discussed as a rare moment of humor and defiance that resonated with Western audiences.

china· hong kong· personal space· humor· viral video

19:39 We'll see. Yeah, figuring out what the good and bad sides of this are. I mean, there's got to be the Chinese aren't stupid. They didn't sign off on something that they can't benefit from. And as I was researching some of this and thinking about it, I personally, I'd like to make clear that when When I say, you know, the Chiners, the Chinese, you know, I'm like any country, I'm really talking about their leaders. They're not representatives, but they're leaders. And, you know, we've talked about differences in Chinese culture and they, wow, man, they really have a different vibe about personal space. And as has been explained to us, that's because there is no notion of personal space in China.

20:21 And I actually... You find that out when you get in a queue. Yes, yeah, when they cut in line and push you aside. But today's modern Chinese, or I'd say the Chinese who are leaving... It was really this guy who was in Hong Kong that made me realize that, you know, they're just young people like us fighting. Donald Trump don't trust China! China is asshole! I mean, that did it for me. So they got humor. They got something going on over there. I don't think the guy was trying to be funny. Be honest about it. Quiet now. Trying to make nice with our Chinese donors. Getting into so much trouble. Which one? Which one of the one? Now the joke is who? Who? Yes, who? Who's the guy? John who? Anyway, so that's it. I thought a fruitful, interesting update on the Chiners.

CHAPTER 10 / 41 Discussion

Local 512 Austin Meetup, Sandra Bullock Tax Strategy

Adam Curry reports on attending a local No Agenda meetup in South Austin organized by Sir Scott of the Armory. The discussion transitions to why celebrities like Sandra Bullock and Jennifer Aniston maintain residences in Austin, highlighting the financial benefits of living in a state with no personal income tax.

austin· meetup· sandra bullock· jennifer aniston· income tax· california· celebrity real estate

21:18 And then the president went to now Thursday night after the show I rallied and I went to the local first local 512 meetup in Austin, South Austin. Oh yes, how did that go? It was actually really nice. Sir Scott of the Armory had organized it and about I think 18, 19 people there And it was made very clear to me that it's it's always going to be on a Thursday because they really don't want me there That was the interesting part so that they don't want me to feel obliged that I have to show up to every single meetup

21:55 Well, you would never feel that way anyway. No, but I kind of appreciate it. So now when I go, it's like, oh, now it's a super big treat and I was fried. So now you could show up as a cameo. Exactly. In fact, you don't even want to pre-announce. I don't even know if people expected me to show up yet. I have a meetup report for later. Well, I read the report and it seems as though they were unhappy that you showed up. Despite Curry showing up, the vibe didn't change, I think was the was the verbiage. I need some celebrity to two bit celebrity there. Really? XVJ in the spotlight. Send us Pauly Shore. Get us something funny. Exactly. I do have a meter report later on. We'll talk about that. But anyway, Sandra Bullock also lives in Austin, Texas.

22:44 She does have a house here. I think she may live in more in California, but she certainly has a house here and she's from here. Let me think of the reason. Let's see your... Unlike Jennifer Aniston. She is actually from here. Aniston has a place. She's moving there again. For South by. She's moving there. And if you think about it, I thought about it, you're an actress in Hollywood, most of your shoots are gonna be in Vancouver or who knows where. Why do you wanna pay, especially if you're making like five million dollars, 10 million dollars, 20 million dollars a year or more?

23:23 Why would you not want to have a place in a tax, in a personal tax-free state that doesn't pay state income tax? You'd be nuts to be a California resident when you can have a nice place in Austin. That's right. That's right. But you know Jen Aniston has made some bad choices letting Brad Pitt go So, you know, that's she's not smart enough to actually own something It was because Joe Angelina Jolie Offered him perverted sex. Sure. That's right. He went right. Well, then she should have countered well, let's be honest about it didn't have the chops and

24:05 So what I didn't get to see, although I saw it later, and I saw it the next day in Louisiana, which was I think was similar in scope, but we have a bit of a format change now with the president's stand-up routine. He's bringing up... A whole new act. Yeah, he's also bringing up local people, not just the politicians, but local, you know, like he had some Boy Scouts on stage. Nah, it was a little different. I thought there was something you know, local heroes on stage. I don't think he was doing bringing them up as often as he has now. Well, I mean, he has changes, but this act is completely revamped to all new, all new material, all new material. We were watching it get stale. I mean, he's been it was pretty much the same. Even Fox wasn't even Fox wasn't showing it in in its entirety. It was you know, there was no there was no danger. You're like, oh, he's already said all this. We know we needed something new. And he I think he delivered.

CHAPTER 11 / 41 Discussion

Donald Trump Minnesota Rally, New Stand-up Routine

Donald Trump's recent campaign rally in Minneapolis is analyzed as a revamped "stand-up routine" featuring new material. Media critics, including Chris Hayes and Professor Fried, are heard criticizing the President's use of profanity, while the hosts argue his "foul-mouthed" style is part of his authentic appeal.

donald trump· minneapolis· minnesota· chris hayes· professor fried· political rallies· foul-mouthed

23:23 Why would you not want to have a place in a tax, in a personal tax-free state that doesn't pay state income tax? You'd be nuts to be a California resident when you can have a nice place in Austin. That's right. That's right. But you know Jen Aniston has made some bad choices letting Brad Pitt go So, you know, that's she's not smart enough to actually own something It was because Joe Angelina Jolie Offered him perverted sex. Sure. That's right. He went right. Well, then she should have countered well, let's be honest about it didn't have the chops and

24:05 So what I didn't get to see, although I saw it later, and I saw it the next day in Louisiana, which was I think was similar in scope, but we have a bit of a format change now with the president's stand-up routine. He's bringing up... A whole new act. Yeah, he's also bringing up local people, not just the politicians, but local, you know, like he had some Boy Scouts on stage. Nah, it was a little different. I thought there was something you know, local heroes on stage. I don't think he was doing bringing them up as often as he has now. Well, I mean, he has changes, but this act is completely revamped to all new, all new material, all new material. We were watching it get stale. I mean, he's been it was pretty much the same. Even Fox wasn't even Fox wasn't showing it in in its entirety. It was you know, there was no there was no danger. You're like, oh, he's already said all this. We know we needed something new. And he I think he delivered.

25:02 I have a bunch of clips from the Minnesota speech. And the thing is, it's obvious that some of this, and by the way, the Lib Joes, I was gonna print out some of the, they are nuts. They've gone completely over the top. They just think that, and you can tell if you read the Washington Post and the New York Times, and that's all you ever read, the first paragraph of all their articles about Trump always start off with the guy's a corrupt prick. Right, of course. And I mean, it's like that's your lead graph. And so they go on from there. And so these guys have sucked it up and they're all I'm almost at the you know, the one Lib Joe says he's quitting. He's going to be resigning by Christmas.

25:43 And so I'm putting that up for a bet. And they both poo-poo my thinking that Hillary's jumping into this thing because they still haven't seen any counter information. So there's money to be made. It has cooled down a bit around Hills. So she needs to wait for this debate tomorrow and then strike. The debate is the kicker. Yeah. Okay. Hey, I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. First of all, let's start with not the speech itself, but Chris Hayes, the lesbian who runs that all in with Chris Hayes, she had on this professor, Freud, who he sets it up.

26:29 in his male persona, he sets it up as the professor is some sort of fabulous conservative that is now turned on Trump because that's what they're all doing. Everybody who's a conservative is turning on Trump. And so you get to listen to this guy. So I looked this guy up. He's a professor, yes, and he used to be a conservative, but he was in the Reagan administration. The guy's 80-something. And so he was, I guess, a conservative. But he was in the Obama administration. He was a huge Obama supporter, refused to vote for John McCain, hated Romney. Nothing wrong with that, but this is not a guy, the classic conservative you're gonna roll out to slam Trump. But I think what he had to say was kind of very typical of what the Lib Joe's are thinking. And this is a clip, is Professor Fried.

27:16 on Trump. They are horrified. It is the very opposite of the great Republicans. The great Republicans like Ronald Reagan, like Dwight Eisenhower. Can you imagine Dwight Eisenhower speaking the way this man speaks? Or Lincoln? Or Teddy Roosevelt? This man is ignorant.

28:06 and foul-mouthed. Wow! You know, this guy needs a little lesson on Eisenhower. Eisenhower was the president who warned us in his farewell speech to be careful of the unmitigated power of the military-industrial complex. Well, he wasn't foul-mouthed, even though he was to a certain extent. But he didn't do it in his speeches and I guess everything is all that's what's important to be disingenuous. Anyway, this guy, you know, I think foul-mouthed him. What Trump has done is he added ass.

28:48 and bullshit. Yes, yes. Two words to his vocabulary that he uses in the Trump, Trump stump speech. And whereas children who grew up during the Bill Clinton era learned that blowjobs are not sex. They're not sex. Now bullshit is not a bad word you can't say in public. It is an approved word. But it's foul mouthed according to this old fart. Okay, so let's go on with, let's go with a, there's a variety, these are all short, except one. Let's start with, this is Trump catching himself going off script. And this is where he's a moment of self-realization, because he does have a prompter up there, which people should call him out on, because he made a big stink about it, because Obama uses them. But he doesn't stick with the prompter with these impromptu speeches. The audience is really going nuts over everything he says. And he comes to this self-realization thing, it was pretty funny. This is Trump catches self going off script. What have you refused?

CHAPTER 12 / 41 Discussion

Nancy Pelosi, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page Dramatization

Audio from the Minnesota rally shows Donald Trump mocking Nancy Pelosi's intelligence and performing a dramatic reading of text messages between FBI agents Peter Strzok and Lisa Page. Trump uses these dramatizations to frame the Russia investigation as a "phony hoax" and an "insurance policy."

nancy pelosi· peter strzok· lisa page· george stephanopoulos· dramatization· text messages

29:51 to bow or bend to the Washington swamp which I could do very easily I'd be much more popular folks I'd be it would be so much easier I gotta tell you isn't it much better when I go off script isn't that better so much so he gets a little reaffirmation because he does He does go off script. So here now here he is talking about Pelosi and he's really irked with her and all this all these investigations which are really slowing him down. Which is, sorry, they're designed to slow him down but he's irked with it and so he goes right he says some of the he gets pretty insulting. When Nancy Pelosi was on television the other day

30:37 I have to say, I have to say, I was very proud of George Stephanopoulos. I was very proud. It's not often. She said no, no. Shifty Schiff told the truth when he said that. Stephanopoulos said no way, no, no, it wasn't the truth. It was a false statement. No, no, it was the truth. He said no, and she really believes it. So she's either got one of two problems. She's either really stupid, okay, or she's really lost it, or maybe there's a certain dishonesty in there, something like that. But they smear you. They spy on you.

31:14 And they target your friends, your family, your staff for harassment, for abuse, for destruction. Now I noticed that in that little bit he does a little bit of little acting, but he started to do more schtick, as I like to call it. And he'll go into characters and he doesn't do voices yet. But that's coming. I don't know if it's gonna get here by the election. I thought he came pretty close with some things I heard. I thought he was doing a bit. He does this bit between Strzok and Lisa Page where he's mimicking them having a conversation and he goes into them, you know, saying how much they love each other and he goes on and on and he's doing kind of characters but he's not,

32:04 He could take it a step up by adding a little of female vocalization going you're talking like you know this is in the higher pitch voice to make it a little more obvious what he's up to but here is the 34 seconds of part of that little. I guess it would be a drama. It's a dramatization of text messages sent between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page. I love you, Peter. I love you too, Lisa. Lisa, Lisa. Oh God, I love you, Lisa. And if she doesn't win, Lisa, we've got an insurance policy, Lisa. We'll get that son of a bitch out.

32:46 We got an insurance policy. And we're living through the insurance policy, that's what it is. The phony Russia hoax. Lisa, I love you. Now, the Do-Nothing Democrat con artists and scammers are getting desperate. The whole bit was really quite funny. Curious that this is a part of the Do-Nothing Democrats. I don't know if this is a redundancy or not, but this is... Trump do-nothing Democrats. The do-nothing Democratic streamers have gone so far left that they believe it should not be a crime to cross our border illegally and it should be a crime to have a totally appropriate, casual, beautiful, accurate phone call with a foreign leader. I don't think so. Now, the last bit I have here is when he goes after Biden.

CHAPTER 13 / 41 Discussion

Hunter Biden, Joe Biden Burisma Allegations

Donald Trump questions the whereabouts of Hunter Biden during his rally, focusing on Biden's business dealings in Ukraine and China. The President mocks the lack of media scrutiny regarding Hunter Biden's $1.5 billion deal with Chinese negotiators and his high-paying position at a Ukrainian energy company.

hunter biden· joe biden· burisma· china· energy company· chuck todd· nbc

33:44 I think it can stand from we can do we start with this where is hunter clip which is 16 seconds. Oh yeah that's his new thing. Oops. By the way whatever happened to hunter where the hell is he? Where's hunter? Hey fellas I have an idea for a new t-shirt. I love the cops, but let's do another t-shirt. Where's hunter? Now in in general it's like who gives a crap But he's I think he I think he's making the point that the the news has not done anything with hunter I mean I think it is anyone interviewed him. I don't believe so well They're talking about him all the time wants somebody going to interview him. I think that's what what Trump was uh

34:35 Was referring to it's like how come he's just not on the scene No one's talking to him and you don't see anyone staking out his house Now I have these last two clips in this about Biden and Hunter with some very snide remarks I can't remember the order now. Is there a time code on those? Hmm No, but I think the hunter is the first one by recall. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Well, let's use that to start with a hundred clip This is pretty funny being examined by sleepy eyes Chuck Todd or some of these people Hunter so great that you're here, sir Hunter

35:20 I know they're giving you approximately $168,000 a month. I hear they paid you a big check of $3 million. I just want to speak on behalf of NBC, who's absolutely one of the worst. I just want to tell you... Hunter! Hunter! I just want to tell you, I couldn't be happier for you and your family. And I know you don't know anything about energy, and I know it's an energy company, but I think they made a great deal, Hunter. And I'm dealing with people right now, they're tough as hell, those Chinese negotiators. And Hunter, who's not too smart, Hunter, he goes in, he has a meeting, he walks out in his fund with 1.5 billion, with a B, $1.5 billion. These aren't the same Chinese negotiators that I'm dealing with, I can tell you. These are not the same ones, but we are doing very well in that negotiation.

36:25 Now think of it, where's Hunter? Okay, get it, so where is Hunter? I want to see Hunter ask this question. Hunter, you know nothing about energy, you know nothing about China, you know nothing about anything, frankly. Hunter, you're a loser. Why did you get $1.5 billion, Hunter? Hey, where's the hum? What did you record that off of the hum is is outrageous? That was the that was record that believe that was in the feed really that's shit. What a Somebody screwed up. It was in Minnesota. Hello. You know once again We had one of these phony baloney virtue signal statements from Prince's estate and

CHAPTER 14 / 41 Discussion

Presidential Decorum, Obama vs Trump Humor

The hosts debate the concept of being "presidential," comparing Barack Obama's sophisticated, understated humor with Donald Trump's overt crassness. They suggest that the media's obsession with decorum is a disconnect that ignores the historical reality of political conflict.

barack obama· donald trump· presidential decorum· humor· elites· correspondence dinner

37:03 Oh yeah, I've got clips on that. We'll get to that because I want, because I'm going to specifically have you do your bit again about that. Oh, okay. All right. Okay, good. Good, good. So yeah, hold on to that. So this is how it fits. This is the one where he goes from that calling Hunter a loser. I mean, I have a sense of humor and yeah, I can see it's unprecedented. It's unprecedented as well. Check the calendar people. It's 2019, it's not 1860. Oh, when they used to duel it out? Oh yeah, there you go. There's that. They used to actually shoot at each other. Who did that? Wasn't that a president who dueled with a candidate? I think Hamilton got into a beef with someone. So here we go with, this is the last clip I have of this because they're all short.

37:51 But he's on a roll the whole time. He's got the audience in the palm of his hand. He's getting big laughs. He's got the same setup behind him. There's always one or two, but usually at least one big smile blonde. That's the way to describe her. Very attractive, even though it was kind of fuzzy. The shot was not good in this particular. Did you see the multiple jobs, jobs, jobs, banners everywhere? Yeah, oh my god. I just want people to know that we've been saying jobs jobs jobs for what eight years? The day Pelosi first said it yeah and

38:28 Yes, jobs, jobs, jobs. So here he is and if he's just going to give a little needle to Biden, and I think Biden is suffering from it because he has, he doesn't look, he looks irked. I mean, he really looks mad when he speaks now. It's going to be fun to watch him in the next debates because he's going to go off topic completely and go completely after Trump. And I think a lot of it has to do with this. And this also got the attention of the deep state. And your father was never considered smart. He was never considered a good senator. He was only a good vice president because he understood how to kiss Barack Obama's ass. It's unpresidential, but oh so funny. He's ruining the country.

39:24 I don't know. It's just horrible. You can't stand up to make a comeback. I gotta tell you, I'm old, 55. It's old by for a lot of people standards. I find it beautiful. I find it very funny. We used to be the jokers of the world. We lost, we lost our humor. The lip joes are beside themselves. Yes, I know people are outraged by this. How can you speak like this? It's not normal. No, it's not. But I don't know. It's also not normally go so ballistic over it. Obama had really, really, really good intelligence, sophisticated, deep digging jokes with fabulous timing. They were just different jokes, but he could be just as crass and and and

40:07 He was on yeah, but he understated his crassness which I guess which is very British. Yeah, it's more acceptable to the elites Yeah, which are British and in context Obama would do some nasty stuff. Well, I've need I remind you well at least I became President Trump, you know that when they were doing the correspondence dinner and it was a Justified dig at Trump Trump was had been a dick about the birth of stuff. So what so what? We're all such assholes in real life, but oh no this has to be different. You know what's funny is this lack of presidential, it's not presidential, it's not presidential. And they say that on the one hand, the other hand they say he wants to be king, he wants to be king, he wants to be a dictator, but being presidential and being a big phony, not being himself, is really more

CHAPTER 15 / 41 Discussion

Syria Troop Withdrawal, Obama Era Boots on the Ground

Archival clips from the Obama administration are used to highlight the shifting definition of "boots on the ground" in Syria. The discussion points out the hypocrisy of media figures who previously accepted the "advisor" label for troops but now criticize Trump for withdrawing those same forces.

syria· barack obama· donald trump· jim acosta· josh earnest· boots on the ground· kurds

41:05 you know, appeals to more of the people that would like a monarchy. I just, there's something, there's a disconnect. Okay, well you know what? While you're on that, this is good. I told you I was doing some old research. The thing about Syria really bothered me because this is another huge issue that the Washington establishment has. Most of the mainstream media, M5M, including Fox, it's like, oh my god, we can't do this, this is completely wrong, how could I do that? And I You know we've been doing this show for a while so and I have a reasonable memory when it comes to things I've tangibly held in my hands or I guess not completely tangibly, but I've I've recorded clips I've written the titles for clips. You know you remember stuff after a while and there was and we followed this very closely and there was a promise

41:58 And that's why I don't understand why people are talking about our troops, pulling our troops. We don't have troops in Syria! We do not have combat troops in Syria! Better known as... boots on the ground! I do not foresee a scenario in which boots on the ground in Syria, American boots on the ground in Syria, would not only be good for America, but also would be good for Syria. I will not put American boots on the ground in Syria. I will not pursue an open-ended action like Iraq or Afghanistan. With respect to the situation on the ground in Syria, we will not be placing U.S. ground troops to try to control the areas that are part of the conflict inside of Syria. The resolution we've submitted today does not

42:52 call for the deployment of US ground combat forces to Iraq or Syria. So then of course we sent troops to Syria, but it wasn't really troops, it was special advisors and the much discussed Jim Acosta was in the press room making waves back in the day for good old Josh there. Which is this president, this White House, the officials here at this White House repeatedly over and over again, made it clear to the American people that there would be no combat role for U.S. troops fighting ISIS. That appears to be changing. Not only is there this announcement that you're talking about today, which you say they won't be involved in a combat role, but you're not ruling out the possibility that they may be involved in some sort of combat operation. But on the Iraq side, you have Pentagon officials this week saying, we're in combat.

43:45 So, I'm just, it would be great if we could just have a moment of clarity here and you could acknowledge that yes, this mission is changing. It is not what it was said it was going to be at the onset of this. I mean, I just think that's very clear. I think it's very clear. To say that, Jim, would only confuse the situation. The fact of the matter is, the mission that the Commander-in-Chief has given our military personnel in Iraq and now in Syria is a train, advise, and assist mission. And we've gone to great lengths to make clear that that in no way diminishes the amount of risk that our men and women in uniform will be facing. We've also been quite clear that there actually have been situations where combat boots have been on the ground inside of Syria.

44:26 We've been quite candid about that. The president ordered a mission involving US military personnel putting boots on the ground inside of Syria to try to rescue American hostages that had been taken by ISIL. That occurred more than a year ago. Ah, so, but still, there's no combat boots on the ground. Somehow we have thousands of troops' boots on the ground now that Trump, the horrible man, is taking away so the Kurds will get slaughtered! But we have no boots on the ground. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No, yes, no, yes, we have to go back to Admiral Kirby who was answering questions from Matt Lee and Guyan Chachachachan. And there was never this, you know,

45:10 There was never this no boots on the ground. I don't know where this keeps coming from I'm just curious if this is like part of some kind of Devious grand strategy to say one thing and then do the complete opposite of it I just I don't see it that way for months and months and months that the mantra from the president and Everyone else in the administration has been no boots on the ground and now that is not true What? It's just not true, Matt. It is! What? It's just not true. It's true. No, it's not. All options are on the table except boots on the ground. That was the- I never said that. Can the president send any number of special forces without calling them ground troops?

45:48 They are not ground troops in the sense that they are not conventional ground troops conducting combat operations on their own. The special forces being sent to Syria are going to be engaged in combat. Their job would be in keeping with the original 50, which was advise and assist. There's no point in arguing the boots on the ground rhetoric. It's absolutely no point. I'm not disputing the fact that we have troops on the ground and they're wearing boots. There we go! Yes! Now we got to the point! So I don't know why everyone's all up in arms. There's no troops there. There's only advise and assist. We've advised, we've assisted, we can step back now. People forget very quickly, but not your no agenda show. We have a long memory.

46:33 Especially when somebody goes ape shit and digs up all this old stuff. Yeah, it's easy to do. We have a whole search engine just for it. Yeah, well that's actually the benefit of doing something for a long time. And value for value. We've got, you know, it's all because Dave Jones started the Freedom Controller in structured XML data. Because I output the show notes as OPML, it can be pulled into anything and it's served us quite well. Anyway, these are functional technologies. Yeah. Yeah, it's our version of AI

47:11 Very artificial. Yes, it's right. It's a microservice. That's the problem. It'll all fall down if one little thing breaks. The whole no agenda show will fall apart. I don't know. I just I just want to remind people that and you know, Trump could have easily have said we don't have we're not pulling any troops out. We got advisors. This is what Obama said it would have been much smarter. Yeah. Yeah. Trump's advisors. Or not up to par. They're all running for their lives. You're going to be stunned when you hear the stuff that Lib Joseph written. Stunned. Well, I gotta say, I read this indictment from the Federal Election Committee of the two Ukrainians. The two bozos.

CHAPTER 16 / 41 Discussion

Rudy Giuliani Associates Arrest, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman

Two associates of Rudy Giuliani, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, were arrested at Dulles Airport on campaign finance violation charges. The indictment suggests the men were involved in a scheme to influence US-Ukraine relations while also seeking marijuana licenses in various states.

rudy giuliani· lev parnas· igor fruman· ukraine· campaign finance· weed licenses· pete sessions

48:02 Yeah, it looks pretty shady, those guys. They were donating to committees, they're donating to state elections, and mainly to get weed licenses. That's the funniest thing of it. No one's talking about that. There was one clip that mentioned it, but I didn't get that. I thought that was funny. Yeah, they're trying to get weed licenses. I want weed licenses. Okay. Yeah, and they used a credit card. This is exactly what every campaign does. Obama's foreign credit card receipts were astronomical. So yeah, throw these guys in jail. Absolutely. Makes Rudy Giuliani look like a shitheel. Well, you know, Giuliani's always been a douchebag. Yeah. But you know, he's not going to go to jail or anything. Why not? Just a good backstory on the Giuliani associates. This is the backstory from Democracy Now!

48:59 Two associates of President Trump's personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, have been arrested and charged with campaign finance violations. The men, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, were arrested at Dulles International Airport Wednesday night trying to board a one-way flight to Vienna, where they were to be meeting with Giuliani. According to the indictment, the two Florida businessmen pressured former Texas Republican Congressmember Pete Sessions to push for the ouster of the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine while simultaneously funding his campaign. The ambassador was fired in May. That's interesting. I didn't really see that spelled out in the indictment.

49:42 Well, that's one of the things that they say that, well a lot of the stuff's not spelled out. Just so you know, the indictment is purely about the election campaign contribution fraud, which is clear from, by the way, there are three, I think it's five, these are only two of the five, four of them are U.S. citizens, one was a citizen or wasn't at some point, but they were born in Ukraine. But the only thing I could find in this indictment was The illegal campaign donations, there's... and the weed licensing. I don't know anything about pressuring... maybe it's in there, maybe I'll look again. Yeah, look again. But I didn't see that. Well, the thing, of course, they gotta get rid of this... this ambassador, nobody liked her anyway.

50:31 And so Trump got ended up getting rid of her and they made a big fuss about it But doesn't when a new president comes in don't they usually put their own ambassadors in all over the place anyway? Yeah, and it's always so why is this a big deal? Well because now you get to say out loud because so-and-so donated a million dollars he or she is ambassador Which is exactly how every president does it That's the whole idea. For example, a lot of the big donors, massive donors, especially in the Democrat side, they only donate to get an ambassadorship. And you want Paris, you want London, you want one of these, you know, that's that's the ambassadorship you want. Yeah. I can tell you a major Silicon Valley guy that, you know, I know we both know from Kleiner Perkins who keeps betting on the wrong horse.

CHAPTER 17 / 41 Discussion

John Doerr Political Donations, Kamala Harris Pronouns

Silicon Valley venture capitalist John Doerr is noted for his significant but often unsuccessful political donations to Democrats. Additionally, Kamala Harris is heard declaring her pronouns at a CNN town hall, which the hosts characterize as extreme virtue signaling.

john doerr· kleiner perkins· kamala harris· pronouns· cnn town hall· silicon valley

51:17 over and over again, millions and millions of dollars. He keeps doing it. And I said, what is he giving her the money for? Why is he donating to this guy? Oh, he expects if the guy wins, he's going to get the ambassador to France. I saw on the Forbes richest 400 list, which came out this week, John Doar has $8 billion personally, according to the list. Yeah. $8 billion. That's a lot of money, then it all goes to Democrats. Yeah, well that's funny, but he still doesn't have an ambassadorship. No, he's not gonna get one either because he can't pick a winner. But he's probably all in on Kamala for all we know. He's the worst. I should just play the quick Kamala clip. Just a quick aside, unless you want to go to donations? No, no, no, let's do a quick Kamala.

52:08 And my pronouns are she her and hers she heard mine, too. All right Big, big props to the Cuomo kid for that. Very funny. But what doesn't translate in audio is when she said, my pronouns are T-Hern-Herns. And she looked at the audience and she did one of her, uh-huh, yeah, that's right. I got pronouns. Uh-huh, that's right. My pronouns. I know we got all the pronouns. Just trust me with my pronouns. That was virtue signaling of the largest. She hasn't pulled herself far enough away from the black community.

CHAPTER 18 / 41 Discussion

CNN LGBTQ Town Hall, Joe Biden Bathhouse Comments

The CNN LGBTQ town hall suffered from low ratings compared to Donald Trump's competing rally. During the event, Joe Biden made awkward comments to Anderson Cooper regarding San Francisco "gay bathhouses" from 20 years ago, which the hosts interpret as a failed attempt to normalize the community.

joe biden· anderson cooper· cnn· lgbtq· san francisco· bathhouses· ratings

52:51 She pulls this bullshit and which is like, oh, well, I'm glad you told us Kamala because we had no idea. I thought you were a guy. You know, there was something I wanted to play. Maybe it's appropriate here because I presume you're not going to do the whole diversity thing or you want to do that in before the break or do you want to come back? What diversity thing? Well, the CNN town hall, I presume you got some more clips. Is that all you got from that thing? No, I got two. I got the other one, which is the transgender person going nuts. Well, let's just set this up for a second. This aired as competing programming to the president's speech in Minneapolis. And of course, the next day I go look at the ratings.

53:37 I mean, I don't know why they're doing this. It was the low- the whole night was the lowest of all the cable channels. Fox had an average of 3.7 million viewers during the president's Minneapolis speech and CNN was just around a million- a million viewers and you know 325,000 in the Target demo. So, you know, it's Why are they doing this? I mean, they clearly don't, they must not care about ratings. So, and they had all the superstars on, it was all the candidates, it was all the big celebs. Yeah, but it's suicide. I think, I mean, I have, I picked one or two clips from it.

54:25 Figured you might you might have a few what do you have? I only have I have the one I have the one good clip And I also have a little game we can play okay well Let me play my clips and then we'll then I'll we'll go into yours in your game. How does that sound sounds good? Okay, so we'll start with Joe who just You know, he has a little bit of the Trump sickness where he's dropping whole words and trying to keep the story flowing and just omits entire sentence. Trump doesn't do it that so much that it's annoying. You're doing it right now. You're thinking of Ron Paul. You're doing it right now. Well, I'm thinking of Ron Paul in my head and Ron Paul will just

55:12 He'll drop whole sentences. Right, but now Biden is doing the same thing and this is just 27 seconds of what went on there. It's normal. It's normalized. It's not anything strange. It's not strange. That's the generic point and the more people know that the more they understand it Remember Anderson back 15 20 years ago. We talked about this and in San Francisco is all about well You know gay gay gay bath houses and every it's all about around-the-clock sex He's looking at Anderson Cooper. He's like, gay, gay, gay, gay. Pooper's like backing off each time he says that. Gay sex bathhouses. Gay sex bathhouses. Holy mackerel. Was Biden in the bathhouse with Anderson? What's he talking about? Hey Anderson, remember when we were in the bathhouses in San Francisco? Gay sex, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, right here. Remember Anderson back 15, 20 years ago?

56:15 Anderson's physically moving backwards now that he said, hey remember Anderson? We talked about this in San Francisco, it's all about well you know gay bathhouses. It's all about around the clock sex. Come on man. But what is he actually saying? He's trying, and I understand what he's, because I can decipher him just like Trump. Why don't you tell me because I have no idea. What he's trying to say is if It's okay to be gay. It's okay to be whatever you want. It's okay to be transgender. That's what he's saying. And the way he's trying to say that is... That's the worst way of saying this. It's 2019. Remember Anderson? Back in the day, and I think this is what he really meant to say was... Back in the day is 20 years ago, not 10, 15.

57:02 No, it was 15 years ago and Joe Biden only... 2004, the bathhouses were shut down in San Francisco in 2004 completely. But the Obama administration through Joe Biden, he was the one... It just came out, I didn't mean anything by it. Through Joe Biden. Joe Biden did an interview and said, yo, well I've reassessed my thinking on same-sex marriage. The Friday before Obama was going to announce this big change, he stole Obama's thunder from him.

57:42 Which pissed Obama off and he's still mad about it. Of course he is. And now here's Joe going, hey, hey, we all people thought gays were just like have sex and no man, no man, it's normal now. You remember, don't you? Don't you remember Roy Manderson? You remember it was just sex and gay bad? Sad man. Sad Joe Biden. Okay. Then we have this is, oh yeah. This was Beto O'Rourke, who, and I believe this is in the backdrop of a forthcoming Supreme Court decision over Title VII of the Civil Rights Act, which we discussed.

CHAPTER 19 / 41 Discussion

Beto O'Rourke, Religious Institution Tax-Exempt Status

Beto O'Rourke states during the CNN town hall that religious institutions, including churches and charities, should lose their tax-exempt status if they oppose same-sex marriage. This position is discussed in the context of ongoing legal debates regarding the Civil Rights Act and discrimination.

beto o'rourke· tax-exempt status· same-sex marriage· religious freedom· civil rights act· title vii

58:26 The hearing was held on October 8th, and I guess we don't have a ruling yet, and the question is, can a company fire you for being gay? Now, that is not any question that is addressed in Title VII. It says you cannot discriminate between male and female. So if you fire some guy because he sleeps with guys, you have to also fire a woman if she sleeps with women. It's that stupid, but I'm telling you that's what the law is. The law says you cannot interpret this law any differently. If you want to change it, let's do that. But the interpretation is not something that can be... You can't derive that from the actual written text. It's only about sex, not sexual preference or gender. And

59:18 Yeah, I think employers need protection too. The way this is turned around though is, I was fired for being gay! That may not necessarily be exactly what happened. But you can easily use that excuse and maybe someone was fired for being gay. I wouldn't visit that business's business anymore, but I think it's still their business. Anyway, that's what it was about. And Beto has his remarks about companies and organizations. This is from your LGBTQ plan, and here's what you write. This is a quote. Freedom of religion is a fundamental right, but it should not be used to discriminate. Do you think religious institutions like colleges, churches, charities, should they lose their tax-exempt status if they oppose same-sex marriage? Yes.

1:00:07 There can be no reward, no benefit, no tax break for anyone or any institution, any organization in America that denies the full human rights and the full civil rights of every single one of us. And so as president, we're going to make that a priority and we are going to stop those who are infringing upon the human rights of our fellow Americans. Which, I mean, it would be great if these same organizations weren't ageist and don't hire people based upon age, which is rampant throughout all industries. Oh yeah. You can take it from us. We were already unhirable. We're not hirable because we're too old.

CHAPTER 20 / 41 Discussion

Elizabeth Warren, Nine-Year-Old Transgender Student Jacob

Elizabeth Warren takes a question from a nine-year-old transgender student named Jacob regarding school safety. The hosts express concern over the medical transitioning of children at such a young age and the audience's enthusiastic response to the segment.

elizabeth warren· transgender· hormones· bullying· massachusetts· elementary school

1:00:56 All right, what's in the Silicon Valley scene? What you got on? You had some clues. I have this one where the transgender woman comes out and she goes nuts. This was actually compiled by some one of the networks and this is a leads me to a kind of a it's actually a two there's two different people that were were kind of attacked by by some transgender that comes out and And this is the trans, I think this is the transgender at nine and Warren and Cuomo clip. Play it. Oh, hold on a second. Ah, yes, I got it.

1:01:51 they bring on this little, a girl who's become a transgender boy, and the kid is nine, and the mom is there as a, the mom, and we know people that, I know those people around here, she proclaims herself as a transgender advocate, and the kid is nine. It's a cute little boy, but it's really a girl apparently. But we don't really know the details of that and it seems a little aggressive to start doing hormones on a kid who's not fully developed. But she's good with it and apparently so is Elizabeth Warren who just

1:02:37 It sucks up this question with that, you know, Cuomo's, this is the question and answer period. And this is, I found it disturbing personally. And his mom, Mimi, who's an advocate for transgender youth and active with the human rights campaign. Jacob is an elementary school student from Massachusetts, likes to play hockey. Jacob. All right, Jacob. My name is Jacob and I'm a nine year old transgender American. My question is... What will you do in your first week as president to make sure that kids like me feel safer in schools? And what do you think schools need to do better to make sure that I don't have to worry about anything but my homework? Oh, I like that question, Jacob. How did she answer it?

1:03:31 She just went on with one of her spiels about, you know, bullying and the rest. It wasn't really that interesting. But I just found that the appearance of a little nine year old that has been transitioned at that age with a... Well, here's my thinking on this. If you're going to put your child through transition or help your child transition at this age, pre-pubescence, And the kid is, you know, has either been told you're gonna be bullied or has been bullied. I think if the child is old enough for that, for the hormones that will stunt growth, then I also think in order to keep the child safe, you should train this child with a handgun and make the kid carry the handgun, pack in heat. So clearly old enough for all of this stuff, so give the kid a gun and that'll change everybody's view.

CHAPTER 21 / 41 Discussion

Blossom C. Brown, Black Trans Women Violence Protest

Activist Blossom C. Brown interrupts the CNN town hall to protest the lack of representation for black trans women and the "epidemic of violence" against them. The hosts question the specific statistics behind these claims and ask for more data on the perpetrators of such violence.

blossom c. brown· cnn· trans lives matter· violence· anderson cooper· pete buttigieg

1:04:28 Yeah, that's gonna work. I'm just saying what's wrong with it. It's no less wrong than putting than putting a kid on growth stunting hormones and then getting a big round of applause from the audience for doing it. Yeah, so I was today. That's what's disturbing an open carry. I'm not talking conceal. I mean, I want a big holster with a Glock 9. OK, so here's the here's the one we're talking to that I wanted to play. This is complaints of the I'm sorry. This is the black trans woman. This from Democracy Now. She clipped it and put a little package together. This is the black trans woman. Democratic presidential candidates attended a CNN hosted town hall Thursday night focused on LGBTQ rights. The event was repeatedly disrupted by activists demanding attention to the epidemic of violence against black and brown transgender women.

1:05:16 South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Bootijig was interrupted by activists holding a banner and chanting, "'Trans Lives Matter,' as the openly gay mayor was being questioned by Anderson Cooper. In another interruption, activist Blossom C. Brown took the mic from another audience member. Let me tell you something. Black trans women are being killed in this country. And CNN, you have erased black trans women for the last time. Let me tell you something. Black trans women are dying. Our lives matter! I'm an extraordinary black trans woman and I deserve to be here. My black trans sisters that are here, I am tired. I am tired. Not one black trans woman has taken the mic tonight. Not one black trans man has taken the mic tonight.

1:06:03 Yeah, I saw some of these clips and I'm not quite sure exactly what the controversy was other than apparently CNN did not schedule any black trans women to speak or to ask questions. So that's the only thing. And so that's why she's mad at CNN for erasing them, I guess. I think so. But in that clip, there's actually two that you could feel it spliced together. The first one was with Buttigieg. The second one was with another guy up there. And that's part of the quiz. I think you know who it is. But he tried to do his normal thing of trying to assuage and do his normal. And he got like one small little bit of his voice in there. And that was just enough to should be able to tell you exactly who this person was. Because even when he just goes, oh, it's distinctive enough that you can tell who it is.

1:06:59 So I want you to get now it was in there you don't have to play the whole clip you can just play the little I clipped a one second where he tries to jump in. Okay. Tonight you're not one black. Hold on. Tonight you're not one black. Tonight you're not one black. Now I know I'm trying to hear who it is. Tonight you're not one black. It sounds like Beto. Right. It was Beto. Alright! It was Beto. Yeah, I could I can hear that. What do you want to say? Did he actually say anything? I don't know He never did get interrupted because she's right you rattled prattling on he doesn't like interrupting cuz it's rude rude. Yes, and I think that I don't know if it's the same woman But I caught a funny clip from her which I just thought was funny. So I want to know how is our next present? Oh, this is a different one

1:07:51 Yeah, this is different. So I don't this sounded like a scripted question and she was in in the light on, you know, in a good spot. So I think that this was a question that she was allowed to ask. So I want to know how is our next president going to protect black trans folks? That's what I want to know. Nine lives lost is one too many. America deserves better and we must do better. Wow. 19 is one too many. That's a good one. 19 is one too many. Well, that's kind of...

1:08:30 So what reverse logic there we have several trans women and women for sure I know if we have trans men listening to the show I'd like to know what exactly is the issue are trans women black trans women being killed more often than white trans women or more often than straight women I mean I just want to know what the percentage are and what's going on if there's a war against anybody I want to know and who's doing it is it white guys I want to know who's killing black trans women. This is the this is what pisses me off about it is all this bitching and moaning but no one tells me exactly what's happening. It's like oh yes that's true. I don't know.

1:09:07 Oh yeah, trans women. I agree, you should get that information. I want to know what's going on, so help me. No, we have a... The community, if there is such a thing... No. People within the groupings that we're discussing, someone in this audience knows exactly... Yeah, Ali Jade, she's the official no-agenda tranny. Maybe that's that's what she does. That's how she labels herself by the way. Well, that's what she yeah She's the one who made a big fuss about us making a fuss about using the word tranny. Yeah transgender fine. Well What she said well if now if she really had said it was fine I would have made a joke about tranny Oakley, but I did see I it's not fine because she says Never mind

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No Agenda Stream, NBA Go Away Sneaker Art

The hosts promote NoAgendaStream.com and showcase artwork by Nick the Rat for episode 1180. The art features a "NBA Go Away" sneaker in Chinese colors, which the hosts suggest could be a commercially viable design given the current political climate.

no agenda stream· nick the rat· sneaker design· china· nba· artwork

1:09:53 It was the kid and the gun. It's a long story. It's a callback. It doesn't work anymore We'll cut this out of the show and put a mark there. No reason With that though. I want to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in coming out John C Dvorak Wow. Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry, also in the morning to all the ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. And in the morning to the trolls in the troll room, you can join them. If you just want to lurk a little bit, that's fine too. Go to noagendastream.com. You can listen to our show live, but there's always something streaming live at noagendastream.com. We have, oh my God, just so many shows to listen to. 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

1:10:40 What? Say what? Nothing. But it's, it's, it really shows you what is possible with just people who are all on this kind of on the same page like, hey man, let's just keep the amygdala small and let's have some fun and it's okay to troll each other. I mean, I enjoy it to a certain extent. So why don't you join in the fun? Join us at noagendastream.com. Join in the trolling fun. And a big in the morning to Nick the Rat who absolutely nailed it! Not just nailed it on the artwork...

1:11:19 For episode 1180, 1180 shows, ISIS in Oz was the title of that and he made the most beautiful NBA go away sneaker in the Republic of China's colors. I thought when I saw it, I said it to you and you agreed. We should make this shoe. This is a commercially viable design. Yes, we should make this shoe and sell it. That shoe is looking good. It is looking good. It is. It's a great design. The colors are spot on. I love the little logo on the tongue that says NBA go away. Of course, we... Hey ho. No. Ho hey. No, it doesn't work.

1:12:03 No, it would go, hey, hi, hi, hey, hey, ho, ho, the NBA has got to go. Hey, hey, hi, hi, ho, ho, the NBA has got to go. Yeah, that would be our entire campaign. This is an exit strategy if ever saw one so if anyone Has any friends in Vietnam? Chinese flag shoe. Yeah, they can't even get the Betsy Ross shoe out. I thought that was all promotion What are you talking about Devorah the time has come? Uh-huh. Yeah, okay fine. Hey, hey, ho ho yeah, and besides these people these people who always help us and

CHAPTER 23 / 41 Discussion

Value for Value, Baronet Chris of North Austin

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak thank the show's producers for their financial support under the "Value for Value" model. Notable donations include a contribution from Baronet Chris of North Austin and a report from the owners of Awesome Urns, who attended the recent local meetup.

value for value· donations· baronet chris· awesome urns· meetup· executive producers

1:12:45 trolling and making artwork. We also have producers in our Value for Value network who send us very much needed funds so that we can pay the bills. And this experiment has been working. We've been hanging in for 12 years, almost 12 years. Yeah, today. Yeah, until today. You're right. We could have done a little better. Can I just do the, can I briefly do the, we only had a couple donations at the meetup. I'd just like to do those real brief. Oh yeah. Yeah. Because I do want to thank everyone who came up. This was the local 512 meetup and we'll have, We'll have a report in the second segment. Kevin Roa, who was there, $40. Baron Gordon Walton donated $140 for Catherine Walton's Damehood for today. So I don't know if Eric put that on the list. And also Rob in Jamaica from AwesomeEarns.com. Remember I told you their story from the last Austin meetup? Their house burned to the ground in a horrible fire.

1:13:45 And they rebuilt their life and they quit all their jobs and they just decided to do stuff with their hands and they started making custom urns, you know, for remains of people. And they're getting incredibly successful. People love having custom urns for their loved ones, it turns out. So awesomeearns.com, and they sent us, they gave us a check for $33.33. And of course it was just, it was a good meetup, you know, it was good to hang out with everybody. And I drank a beer. I drank a beer. And you were wasted. Yeah, after the show I pretty much was, so yeah. So those are the donations and we'll have a report later on. But let's thank our executive producers and asso... well wait!

1:14:32 Only executive producers today? No associates? This is the second time within recent memory that we have no associate executive producers. This is troubling. This is not something that has happened. Well, it's better than having nothing. Well, true. Bump up some guy who donated $150. True, true. Which has happened, but not this year. Baronet Chris of North Austin, as a matter of fact, is at the top of the list with $333. And he is in Austin. So you must know him. Was he at the meetup? In celebration of my 58th trip around the sun on Monday, having seen Adam and fellow knights and dames at the South Austin meetup this past Thursday, I'll take some karma, two to the head, a smack in the mouth, and a Reverend Al Respect. Baronet Chris of North Austin.

1:15:27 The long version he's getting lunch at Chipotle the tortise in the race Kim Kardashian is siganoid weaver ESP ICT they're all jitty with this ESP ICT there's no real conflict We much We much We must and we will much about that. You've got karma. All righty. And now we have a little, uh, we need a little thing. News bomb! News bomb! I was ready for ya! 31415 from Grand Duke Nussbaum.

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Grand Duke Nussbaum, Nobel Peace Prize for Abiy Ahmed

The peerage segment honors Grand Duke Nussbaum and Earl Dave, who reports from Saudi Arabia and Ethiopia. The discussion covers the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize to Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed, who beat out Greta Thunberg for the honor.

grand duke nussbaum· abiy ahmed· nobel peace prize· eritrea· ethiopia· greta thunberg

1:16:29 Today is my birthday, he says, and with the blessing of the peerage committee I would like to claim the title of Grand Duke Nussbaum. I thought he already was a Grand Duke. It was an abeyance. An abeyance? Well now it's for real! Nussbaum! We'll place you right up there on the highest pedestal, Grand Duke Nussbaum. And, you know, I'll bring in some extra hookers and blow and rent boys and chardonnay for you. Thank you so much. Earl of America's Heartland and Saudi Arabia $310.14 Michael Angelo and Garibaldi He's referring to us. Yes. Donation in honor of my second favorite Italian, Senor Columbus and the annual celebration of Italian Pride Day. But it is also in honor of my favorite Italian, my old man, David Fugazotto.

1:17:24 David Fugazotto Sr., who shares it with this, with the day of his birth, who shares it with the day of his birth. Is he indicating that Fugazotto's birthday is today? His dad, his dad, Fugazotto Sr. shares his birthday with Señor Columbus. Well, then why isn't Fugazotto on the birthday list? I think he is. What do you mean? I think he is on the birthday list. Let me see. Yes, Sir Dave to his dad, Dave Fugazotto. Ah, whatever the case, give him a shout on his birthday segment. I made it back from Ethiopia thanks to the travel karma. And alas, the place is apparently ungoverned. No kidding. It's completely without Uber.

1:18:14 And therefore I had no Uber drivers with whom to discuss my entry into earldom. And since they have a contentious and undecided, decidedly unwoke history of Italian colonization in the past, I feel I must refrain from forced recruitment. I will, as Maxine says, stay woke. Grazie a tutti for the sanity. Keep up the great work. A little karma por favor. Grazie mille. Ciao. Sir Dave, Earl of America's Heartland in Saudi Arabia. It's so odd to get all this Italian stuff from him being in Saudi Arabia and Ethiopia. It's a very confusing note.

1:18:57 But that is the nature of many of our producers. They're all over the world doing incredibly interesting things and have boots on the ground reports from the most interesting places that you just won't get anywhere else. You know what I'd like, I agree, and I'd like to get a report from him about the new honoree for the Nobel Peace Prize, who is that character, is the Prime Minister of Eritrea. Oh really? You're a Tria, whatever you call it. Yeah. You're a Tria who bumped, apparently everyone's all bent out of shape about this.

1:19:33 He bumped Greta off the podium. I don't know if Greta had any chance. Oh no, she was second. I think she ran second. Oh my goodness. Yeah, it was pretty pathetic. Well, Sir Dave, Earl of America's Heartland in Saudi Arabia, thank you. Thank you Grand Duke Nussbaum and thank you Baronet Chris of North Austin for keeping us skimming by today. It is incredibly appreciated, but it's you can tell it's the guys who have peerage who are coming in to help us there is a 98.5% of the rest of you that clearly don't assign any value But some do and we'll be thanking more of those later on the second segment and you can join this experiment that we call the no agenda show It's your podcast All you have to do is go to the following URL with a handy jingle so you can remember what it is org

CHAPTER 25 / 41 Discussion

MailChimp Spam, US Postal Service General Delivery Test

Dvorak reports receiving suspicious emails from MailChimp, leading to a discussion about the history of the US Postal Service. The hosts decide to test the "General Delivery" system by having Dvorak send a letter to Adam Curry at a general Austin post office address.

mailchimp· usps· general delivery· austin· post office· zip codes

1:20:23 Slash and a couldn't get any easier help us out for our next show which will be on Thursday Is this we go out we hit people in the mouth Super short segment super super short so you know you're getting spam When is addressed a DNS at You got you got something addressed to DNS at the vorac.org. Yeah emergency message from MailChimp Oh, no, I didn't pay or something. They sent three of them went to Dvorak org went to the org and you know pants something else and it was which is not the email address I mean the none of those were the email address I used for the account but

1:21:23 I think they're just, do they assume everyone in the country, they're just mailing this out to everybody and they assume that if you happen to have a MailChimp account you're gonna fall for this gag? Well back in the day when people sent mail and postcards you could literally put Adam Curry New York and it would arrive at MTV. That was just like Santa Claus in the day. That's right. That's just how mail used to work. Well, it still does to some extent. I don't know if you can just do Adam Curry Austin. I don't think I don't think that arrives anymore Well, that's cuz you're not a big shot anymore Thanks. Yeah, you the pie. Who's this guy Adam Curry ever heard of me? Yeah He's like the dumper he's on the best podcast in the universe he lives in here in this town somewhere fairly successful Where do you think I don't know fairly successful podcaster?

1:22:16 Let's just put general delivery. I am just another trick that nobody uses anymore You can do this. I still think does work. We could test it Okay, the test day we have died to send you a note and you could have to go get it at the post office You just said you have to have what how do you address it? It goes Adam Curry? general delivery Austin, Texas and then the Austin, Texas post office and the post office ID. In other words, what's the zip code of that post office? Okay. And then you can go to the post office.

1:22:53 And you can ask them, is there any mail for me, general delivery for me? And they will go over to a box, which will be empty, except for one letter, which will be the one addressed to you, because nobody knows this. I'm pretty sure this still works. Alright, well let's try that out. So address it to Adam Curry, General Delivery, Austin. I'm not going to give you a zip code because I could give you a zip code, but that may not be, I don't know if it makes any difference. So now if there's 10 post offices in Austin, it's going to go to one of them. Yeah. How many are there? You think? I don't know. Here's what we'll figure it out. I will do this if you actually

1:23:34 I actually would go check. Yeah, I'll go check. And for those of you who just want to send me brownies, it's PO Box 18209, Austin, Texas, 78760. Well, there it is, 78760. That's the zip code I'd use. But now I made it easy for you. See, now I have to go to that post office. I could have said 78701 and it would have been a different post office. Well, yeah, but isn't that the post office you're gonna go to anyway to check your box? I don't want to inconvenience you Yeah, the idea was they could just send it to me. That's okay. I'll bet you I'll bet you this we all do two tests now You've brought it made it more complicated. I'll bet you that if I wrote Adam Curry General delivery, Austin, Texas with seven eight seven six. Oh and people can do this. Everyone can do it They would put it in your box. Okay, I

1:24:29 That would be my guess because your post office out at some point they get enough mail. You know it comes through and there's this guy Oh, yeah, he's got a box. Okay. All right good. Let's test it. Yeah, we will I'm gonna do that You this post office has lots of features that people don't take advantage of oh yeah like a homeless could use the bus this trick incredibly fast service Only only waited three months for a mailbox the actual box I didn't it didn't exist, but let's not go there Greta you mentioned Greta Bloomberg She's punching back at people like you John C. DeVore. Yeah people like you No, you're not you said this is horrible. I hate that don't like that child you said these things you said these things and here She's just listen up. She's talking to you I

CHAPTER 26 / 41 Discussion

Greta Thunberg, Extinction Rebellion Co-Founder Gail Bradbrook

Greta Thunberg responds to critics who mock her, while Extinction Rebellion co-founder Gail Bradbrook is heard advocating for civil disobedience. Bradbrook claims that 97% of all life on Earth could be extinct within her children's lifetime due to the climate crisis.

greta thunberg· gail bradbrook· extinction rebellion· climate change· civil disobedience· 97 percent

1:25:23 grown-ups would choose to mock children and teenagers for just communicating and acting on the science when they could do something good instead. But I guess they must feel like their worldview or their interests or whatever it is is threatened by us. And that is that we should take as a compliment that we are having so much impact that So she does not lamenting her then she yes Yeah, exactly. Thanks for the compliments. That's exactly what she said, but now after that little entremont I have a clip from one of the co-founders of the extinction rebellion

1:26:25 I've been wanting to get some information on this outfit and find out what what's what they're really thinking of now Your general idea of the protests and some of them have been quite radical. They like to shut down train stations and plane Airplane terminals and but really shut them down by laying on top of stuff and it's kind of annoying and you just can't kick them off easily What are they actually protesting? For or what are they against? What is the mission? I do have the clip of the founder Claiming that a lot of this has to do with it. We're all gonna die. Oh Where's this clip? This is extinction rebellion co-founder. This is the woman the we have the exact same clip Oh, you found it on the website on the Guardian. Oh

1:27:15 No, I got off their website. Oh, well, let me play mine first Okay, and then see if well, let me listen to yours. Let me see There's a code no to play yours first because I have the code I have a code in mind that really took me aback. The only reason I made this clip is well Then I want to play yours first. I'm gonna go with yours for it. Maybe the same clip I don't know of all crises means that it's quite possible that that all life on earth, 97% of it, is going to go and possibly in my children's lifetime. 97% of it? What? There's a lot of 97%s. Of all crises means that it's quite possible that all life on earth, 97% of it, is going to go and possibly in my children's lifetime. Conventional politics is

1:28:03 It's fucked. It's finished. Fucked? The question is not what needs to happen and what the problems are. The question is how do things change? We've got an ongoing tradition of civil disobedience in this country. When the suffragettes smashed windows, which is what they did, they weren't directly affecting democracy. They were saying we are angry and we demand our vote. and every other form of reformist type of approach for women getting the vote had been tried and they hadn't succeeded. Our complicity really is our silence and our separation from each other. And so what we're doing in Extinction Rebellion is saying it's time to really come together and express our power.

1:28:46 Now, a couple of things. She's advocating for violence in a not so offhanded way. And she makes the claim that within her child's lifetime, which means in the next, I don't know, the kid's probably what, 10? Let's say in the next 70 years, within the next 70 years, 97% of all life, all life, will be gone. Does anybody in their right mind believe this? I like the 97% because that's just now become a number you just throw out there because, you know, 97% of all scientists agrees, consensuist, we all agree, we all agree. Yeah, 97% have been a provenly good number. Yes. Well, I have a very different clip. I think it's the same woman. Is this, was that Gail Gadbrook? Or Bradbrook? Gail Bradbrook. So she was interviewed and she went into a little depth about this.

1:29:41 And what she says here, I believe, is actually the background for a lot of the issues that we're dealing with in our society today, which I shall explain after the clip. It bakes in the insistence that there's a repair of the harm that happens, which includes compensating people, finding homes for people. In order to do this repairing of the harm that needs to happen, you've got Sir David King, the former chief scientist of the UK, who's setting up a climate repair centre and saying that action can't even go to one and a half degrees C. I hadn't heard that. Climate repair centre. It's like the Pep Boys. Climate...

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Climate Repair, White Supremacy and Patriarchy

Gail Bradbrook links climate repair to the dismantling of systemic racism, white supremacy, and the "wounds of patriarchy." The hosts argue that this messaging relies on "white guilt" and shifts the focus from environmental science to social engineering.

gail bradbrook· climate repair· systemic racism· white supremacy· patriarchy· white guilt

1:28:46 Now, a couple of things. She's advocating for violence in a not so offhanded way. And she makes the claim that within her child's lifetime, which means in the next, I don't know, the kid's probably what, 10? Let's say in the next 70 years, within the next 70 years, 97% of all life, all life, will be gone. Does anybody in their right mind believe this? I like the 97% because that's just now become a number you just throw out there because, you know, 97% of all scientists agrees, consensuist, we all agree, we all agree. Yeah, 97% have been a provenly good number. Yes. Well, I have a very different clip. I think it's the same woman. Is this, was that Gail Gadbrook? Or Bradbrook? Gail Bradbrook. So she was interviewed and she went into a little depth about this.

1:29:41 And what she says here, I believe, is actually the background for a lot of the issues that we're dealing with in our society today, which I shall explain after the clip. It bakes in the insistence that there's a repair of the harm that happens, which includes compensating people, finding homes for people. In order to do this repairing of the harm that needs to happen, you've got Sir David King, the former chief scientist of the UK, who's setting up a climate repair centre and saying that action can't even go to one and a half degrees C. I hadn't heard that. Climate repair centre. It's like the Pep Boys. Climate...

1:30:21 You just drive through, hey can I have a little climate repair done? Climate repair is us, come on by we'll repair that climate for you! And saying that actually we can't even go to one and a half degrees C, you know the ice is already melting, we're already over 410 parts per million. What really needs to happen is we have to go into drawdown, we have to be bringing carbon out of the atmosphere and we can't wait for these magical technologies that are somehow going to suck the carbon out of the atmosphere in the future. I mean, we can do business as usual. And so what we have to do, what we're going to need to do is really work with nature to repair the climate and that's also going to tackle this and

1:31:10 And what that means is we need a lot of human labor so humanity has to rise up in a really beautiful way and tend to the damage that we've done and that needs all of us and it needs all of us together in the places of the earth that's going to sustain life working together. Yeah, so this is all her gobbledygook spiel but hold on it's coming now. To rewild areas, to restore ecosystems, to clean up the rivers, to to plant trees, you know, to basically, you know, sort the plastic out in the ocean and so on. And I actually think there's so many beautiful innovations out there and humanity could do that together and it needs all of us. And for me, this is part of reweaving a human family back together again. It's part of dealing with systemic racism, white supremacy and the wounds of patriarchy that want to separate us, make us feel powerless.

1:32:04 Okay, so it's that last bit that I just wanted to focus on because and I will actually bring it down into one little thing white guilt I'm not even gonna bring patriarchy in or you know, but white guilt systemic racism is That belief is what is happening with everything. I was talking with Mo about this the other day and Who by the way finds it incredibly insulting as a black man when people say well, you know We have white guilt. So you need to have need to get a leg up It's like I don't want that from you But the same with the homelessness even though the majority of homeless here in Austin that I see are white or they're actually white covered in dirt That's true. They're kind of white if you wash them. Yes, the the idea that all of this has happened because

1:32:55 because of systemic racism, who we are, that we cannot change but we've not been aware of it. This is how we fix the situation by acknowledging and, oh yes, it's our fault and so go ahead, we can be inconvenienced by your campaign. It's all about this. And you remember when this got laid on me at the Obama-bots dinner by the professor no less. He's like, you have white privilege. And I didn't quite understand where it was coming from at the time, because this was years and years ago. But this is what it has done. People have been guilted to feeling so bad and so horrible about being white or being male.

1:33:42 That it's they've given up and they're just saying well, whatever. Yeah, I guess yeah You guys should do whatever you want and and I'm all for everybody because I've been part of the problem. That's what it is Yeah, you're leaving out part of that when you go. Oh, yeah, whatever you're leaving out there. Okay? Yeah, I'm we go to here take my money. Oh, that's the best part. That's the best part leaving that part out It's really what we're up to here. Oh, oh, yes, absolutely. I And I'll tell you that when it so somehow this all of this is now responsible for the climate and you heard her say it right there. This is not because of oil or industry. No, it's because of white and male.

1:34:28 So if this is what the Extinction Rebellion is about, is because the patriarchy and whiteness has created this, well you're a certifiably insane lady! Get back on message! But you can't because that is what is being played. That is the message. And she said it right there, clearly. It's stupid. There's lots. Yeah, I have I gotta tell you there was it's Stupid but look when you get to non-white people who are sick and tired of this shit For example in Queens. I believe that's sandy

CHAPTER 28 / 41 Discussion

Queens Homeless Shelter Protest, Not In My Backyard

A Hispanic woman in Queens, New York, is recorded protesting a proposed homeless shelter in her neighborhood. She expresses safety concerns for her granddaughter and explicitly uses the "not in my backyard" (NIMBY) argument, which the hosts note is a sentiment shared by many taxpayers.

queens· alexandria ocasio-cortez· homeless shelter· nimby· affordable housing

1:35:08 Sandy Ocasio-Cortez's district who now are doing exactly what we're doing in Austin is, oh no, we just have to build more affordable housing. Oh no, let's do this shelter. It doesn't matter if the shelter is near an elementary school. So here's a Hispanic woman And she's not having any of it because she has no white guilt or male white privilege. In front of my door. I do not care about homeless. I feel sorry but I don't want them in my backyard. They are taking bomb. They are taking bomb. I don't want to feel threatened every night that come home.

1:35:45 My little granddaughter goes to school right next to it. I'm not happy. I'm extremely unhappy. I hope somebody's gonna burn the place down. If that's what happens, I don't care. Woo! Burn the place down. And she literally said, not in my backyard. Couldn't have gotten any better. But she's allowed to say it, you see, because she's not a man and she's not white. But that's how most people feel because this is so fantastic. At some part of this whole process, it will be the Hispanics and the blacks who come to the rescue of the white man. Once again, they will save the white man, and we'll take all the credit for it. We were anticipating our brand new homelessness czar in Austin.

CHAPTER 29 / 41 Discussion

Austin Homelessness Strategy Officer, Oakland Encampments

Austin's new homeless strategy officer, Pampilo Harris, resigned after only one day on the job. Meanwhile, John C. Dvorak describes the rapid expansion of homeless encampments in Oakland and San Francisco, noting that parks and sidewalks are being overtaken by tents.

pampilo harris· austin· oakland· homelessness· encampments· san francisco· kaiser permanente

1:36:38 Even my friend Alan Graham from Community First Village, who I interviewed, said, you know, we've met with this lady. We're very excited. We think that she might be... Even though these guys get no money from Austin, they do work together to get referrals. So her name is Pampilo Harris. She was on the job one day and she quit. One day! And she said, this was not a decision I made lightly and I've had previous conversations with my immediate supervisor. I'm deeply appreciative of their understandings and willingness to work with me in a way that allows me to meet my family obligations and continue the work we've started as she transitions into a consultancy role. She was recruited from Florida, I believe Orlando, big deal made about her.

1:37:37 Oh yeah. This was, you know, she was going to be the home, not the czar, obviously, but the homeless strategy officer and she quits after one day on the job. I'd like to know why because I think she looked at the situation and went, no way, not me. I don't want it. I don't want the aggravation. The council clearly... Aggravation. What did I say? You said aggravation. Aggravation. That is the reason. Yeah, she said, I don't want the aggro. It's too much Ajda for me. I get Ajda from it. The aggra. The aggra. And she quits. And there's, I mean, this is, my mind is exploding over this. What is happening? Except for the, Sir Mark Hall sent this to me. The ID2020 partners are deep in Austin. ID2020 is scheduled to

1:38:35 To tag and identify every homeless person on a blockchain. Yeah, baby. Yeah I told you I told you they should do QR codes on them, but no no no it has to be pure blockchain Okay, that's fine I think you could expand that with some QR codes. So you're gonna block chain the homeless. Block chain the homeless is a good title. Block chain the homeless. Block chain the bums? One of these, let me see. No, we can't use bums. No, because it's not correct. But yeah, that's no changes so far. Just keep it going. Same old, same old. I wish you could come to Austin, because you were here just in May. You would see the difference right away.

1:39:20 I mean, it's and it's proper camping. It's not just shanties. You know, people got the difference. I go to San Francisco probably twice a month to pick up, you know, things I can't get around here. Hookers. No, there's no hookers. I haven't seen a hooker in San Francisco for decades. But anyway, so the I go to San Francisco and every and if I just make a wine run to pick up my wine from K&L Liquors, one of the best wine stores in the country. I just go pick up a couple cases of whatever I ordered, I let it accumulate, I go pick it up and I come back and I always take the same route, unless I go into the city or go to the delis out or go to the Russian district and go get some Russian stuff.

1:40:06 I would go around, take the same route back, and I'd go past this little phony little park they built some time ago for some reason unknown. It was a little monument to some World War I vets or something. And one or two homeless moved in there, and then 10. And the last time I went to the thing was a complete encampment. And... I know. And so I'm in Oakland now, I'm going down Broadway to take a left on MacArthur to take a certain freeway entrance, which is kind of obscure, but gets you on ahead of the pack. And there's a park that's on the corner of Broadway and MacArthur over by the Kaiser Permanente centers. And this park is a big park, and it's already out of the blue, it's half

CHAPTER 30 / 41 Discussion

Alan Graham, Community First Village Homeless Model

The hosts discuss Alan Graham's "Community First! Village" in Austin as a successful model for addressing chronic homelessness through community rather than just housing. While Dvorak suggests creating designated "shanty towns" in abandoned areas of Oakland, Curry argues that structured communities are already proving effective in Texas.

alan graham· community first village· austin· homelessness· addiction· shanty towns

1:40:54 campers, it's half of the tents. All of a sudden, Oakland has had Libby can't do her job, she can't get rid of these people. And homelessness in Oakland was really kept to a minimum compared to San Francisco, but no more. It's overflowed and now they're just everywhere and they can't seem to do anything about it. Berkeley, same thing. And I just want to remind everybody, and I totally subscribe to Alan Graham's theory that the homeless is you can't fix people. You can't just fix people. Oh, you're homeless, you're addicted, of course really what's going on 100% of homelessness is caused by catastrophic loss of family one way or the other.

1:41:36 Then everything else follows on that you can't fix people so you have to help them into a community But that's what nobody wants no one wants to do that. No one wants to get near the smelly people Well, these communities are self-forming though. They're one in Oakland is tense. Of course, they can actually form a community You need to give them a space with a little bit of guidance and not try to give them a big space the way I Hate to say this because it sounds I don't know if it sounds cruel or crazy or bad or I don't know what it sounds like, what I'm gonna say. But it doesn't sound right, but it is right. is there is acreage in Oakland that is just abandoned. There's a bunch of it on 66th Street. If you go down 66th out of the airport, there's a bunch of areas where there's just a lot around the Oakland Coliseum, which is gonna be abandoned anyway, because the A's are moving out, the Raiders have moved out, and the Warriors have moved to San Francisco. Tear that area down, there you go, and there's a parking lot there. Just give it to the homeless.

1:42:36 and let them put their cants and create, here it is, a shanty town and let them create a community there as a shanty town. There's no other way of doing this, otherwise you just scattered little mini shanty towns all over the place that are completely out of control and it's just not working. One big shanty town, Called in this case the Oakland shantytown It could have Oakland pride and they can have all the you know, they could probably get a you know It could be it could be interesting. Well, it's for sure. I don't see the difference well for sure proven by this concept that I've seen is if you add a few things, but I don't know if it

1:43:20 necessarily has to be shanty, but the idea is real low affordable rent, like $220 is where they start here, which most people can get if they have social security or disability. So that's actually almost covered. And then you still have to go out and make your money and get food. Yeah, that's not going to happen. Well, it does happen because it's working here. So don't say it's not going to happen because it does. I'm talking about the hardcore homeless. I'm talking about the same hardcore homeless, John. Come on. So you think that those people that you just made the argument that you can't fix people. Yes. Yes. Can be fixed. No, I did not say that. But now they're in a community and they look over each other. They're still smoking crack, but they do it in their own house.

1:44:03 And they're smoking a lot less of it. And they're still doing meth, but a lot less because they have something to live for, community. Yes, the hardcore, crazy nut jobs that you're talking about can live productive lives in a community, not in some facility where they're being fixed. Go listen to my interview with Alan Graham. Well, when there's an example of this happening in a way that I see nobody intense on any streets, then I'll agree with you. There's people in Seattle that have been offered pretty good deals but they refuse to go inside anywhere. They want to stay outside. There's 230 people now doing this here in Austin with another 500 coming online in the next few years. It's actually working.

1:44:48 So I went there, I saw it, I had a hour long conversation with the guy. It's actually working. So it's putting a dent in the homeless problem in Austin? The total amount of chronically homeless in Austin is estimated to be 2,000. Yes, it's putting a real dent in there. They'll have 25 to 35 percent within the next year. I'm not talking about transients who take advantage of the situation and they're the assholes, they're the ones stealing. There's a lot of problems but these people need community and no one wants to be their neighbor. So they can be their own neighbors and that works out just fine when you give them a little bit of structure. It's working. Okay, well you're just proving my point. How did I prove your point?

1:45:37 that people in San Francisco, Oakland and elsewhere should all move to Austin where they will get this sort of service. I've been saying it for years and you know you get mad at me when I do it but I think Austin is the place to go. Yeah you know what, fine. The thing is I can't laugh about it anymore because what I'm seeing is that people are getting so aggravated and mad about what's happening and these are taxpayers, you know, local property taxpayers, that what is actually going on is now being omitted. Now it's just where do we shove these assholes, not how do we help them. It's like I don't want it here, I don't want it there, I don't want it there, I want it there. While there's perfectly great places,

CHAPTER 31 / 41 Discussion

United Nations Cash Flow Crisis, Reduced Services

UN Under-Secretary-General Catherine Pollard announces a severe liquidity crisis, forcing the organization to reduce expenditures. Measures include shutting down fountains, limiting escalator use, and restricting meeting hours to 10 AM - 1 PM and 3 PM - 6 PM, which the hosts mock as an elitist work schedule.

united nations· catherine pollard· cash flow· budget· escalators· fountains· working hours

1:46:21 But there's just that's not what the city is doing the seating is what I was just reading about San Francisco They built a billion dollars worth of affordable housing It's like literally for every homeless is a million dollar cost for every homeless. They want to put in there Yeah, that's not the way to go Anyway, and it is the way to go if you have a corrupt government that wants to feed a lot of money into the contractors Yes MLF org and you can go see what I mean by it working. We'll never fix this Speaking of money and how much it costs, I mentioned that the United Nations had a cash flow crisis and they had to do a big meeting about it. It's really bad. And of course this was telecast with the Undersecretary for Management Strategy, Policy and Compliance at the United Nations, Ms. Catherine Pollard,

1:47:18 Please pay attention. The New World Order is broke. Thank you, Stephan. And good afternoon, everyone. So earlier today, I spoke to the Fifth Committee and discussed with them the serious financial situation that the United Nations now faces, more precisely, the liquidity situation of the organization in terms of available cash that is very dire. So this situation which as you know the Secretary General has described is the worst cash crisis facing the UN in nearly a decade. It's not, I want to emphasize that it's not a budget crisis, it is a cash flow crisis.

1:47:57 For the second successive year, we've exhausted all the regular budget liquidity reserves despite several measures we already put in place to try and reduce expenditures and to align them with available cash reserves. Just for context, I've been in corporations, I've run corporations where you have a cash flow problem and if you don't have access to capital markets then there's only one thing you can do. You can either fire people which is always the most expensive item on your budget, in the budget, on your balance sheet or you can start to reduce other things you're doing.

1:48:37 Well, obviously the United Nations is such a bloated hog of an organization. They're not gonna fire anybody on No, we're gonna do it in other ways, but it's quite telling about the elitist pricks. These people really are As a result of this cash crisis, the Secretary General informed Member States earlier this week about a number of measures that are being implemented. I'll just share with you a couple of examples of some of these measures that will go into place from next Monday. Interpretation and meeting services will be limited to official meetings of the calendar of conferences.

1:49:13 So what does that mean? We will no longer be able to serve and service meetings of regional and other groupings that are what we called as available for services or as required. I think they're talking about catering mainly. Oh, here's a great room you can use. Here's lunch. Here's some breakfast bagel service table. Meetings of intergovernmental bodies outside of regular hours, regular hours being 10 to 1 and 3 to 6. That caught my ear. That's their regular hours? They work 10 to 1 and 3 to 6? We will not be able to support. There's going to be delays in issuing official documents. We have put on hold publishing and translating treaties and publications. We are curtailing official travel of staff to only essential activities. We are not going to be able to host events such as receptions before 8 in the morning or after 6.

1:50:09 Cooling and heating services are going to be reduced and some escalators to the floors already service by escalators will be shut down as well the main fountain in the circle Piddling crafted Stop that escalator. You know, by the way, they could have installed the escalators that have the remote that have the sensor. So the escalator is not just running all the time. It stops. You step in front of it, then it starts and then it takes you to the top and then it stops. They're turning the fountain off. They're turning the fountain off in front of the building and the fountain. What's the difference? Back to this other thing you said you mentioned, because I'm still I had to write it down.

1:50:52 So you're telling me that they, unlike the rest, let's look at just the way America operates. We tend to work eight hour days in general industry that maybe has some union influence. Silicon Valley works 60 hours a week. Easily. And up. And it's not a joke. So they're working six hours a week. They start at 10. I'm in, I'm in, I'm here, it's 10. And then at one o'clock, they take a two-hour lunch every day. Two martini lunch, not hours, martinis. It would be a three martini lunch, but it's two hours, two hours to drink those three martinis. And then you're back from three to six. Uh-huh, those are regular hours. And that's regular hours. Yeah. Turn off the fountain, Juves. Oh my God.

1:51:42 They're not putting any work in at all. They're not serious. No, of course not and you know, they could just fire some people but no Anyway, the the culprit of course is America because we've slowed down our paying apparently, you know Trump's behind that Oh, yeah I'm not gonna but but it's not just the US it's a 20 countries are in arrears of their contributions to the United Nations. Even though some journos were in the... at this briefing. Well, we all know it's the US. Have you called the Trump administration? And the lady said, yeah, we're talking to everybody, but it's not... She was actually nice about it. She said, that's not just the United States. They are the biggest. So, but this... We've probably been overpaying. Yeah, but this... Well, yes, look at what they're doing. Oh, Becky, shut down the fountain.

CHAPTER 32 / 41 Discussion

NBA Press Conference, CNN Reporter Question Blocked

During an NBA press conference in Japan, a CNN reporter's question about players' willingness to speak out on political issues following the China controversy is shut down by a media official. The hosts criticize the league's hypocrisy regarding free speech and note Mark Cuban's silence on the matter.

nba· cnn· christina mcfarlane· james harden· russell westbrook· china· censorship

1:52:44 We don't have any catering for lunch! Get out of here. Get out of here! I was looking over my clips and there's an NBA clip that I should have played when you had a little NBA takedown. Yes. This was a... This was a woman from CNN who was at a press conference with a couple of the top NBA players, both of them who liked to, you know, bitch and moan about Trump, which is all NBA players apparently, just for the reasons you cited or that Jason Whitlock identified.

1:53:24 And this is what happens when you bring this question up at an NBA, official NBA press conference. Hi, Christina McFarlane, CNN. The NBA has always been a league that prides itself on its player and its coaches being able to speak out openly about political and societal affairs. I just wonder after the events of this week and the fallout we've seen, whether you would both feel differently about speaking out in that way in future? It's a legitimate question. This is an event that's happened this week during the NBA. This particular question has not been answered.

1:54:06 Any other questions? Mean, of course, I don't know shit about sports, but everyone's now calling for Mark Cuban. Where are you Cuban? Say something now Cuban? They're goading him. That's a good one. They're trying to get because he's always mr. I got a big mouth I know what a big mouth I sold a URL for a billion dollars and bought a basketball team. I am somewhat envious of that well Especially when you found it was actually three billion. Oh god. That's how dumb Yahoo was yeah, yeah the broadcast comm

CHAPTER 33 / 41 Discussion

The Domain Austin, Pet Owners and Humanization

Adam Curry describes observing pet owners at "The Domain" shopping center in Austin, where large dogs like Great Danes are brought into high-end retail stores. He critiques the trend of "pet humanization," where owners speak to and treat their animals like children.

the domain· austin· dogs· nordstrom· pet humanization· untucket· behavior

1:54:56 So we sold the name. That's right. Three billion dollars. I mean, I had MTV.com and I was able to start my business, but no way. Cuban is much smarter than me. But he's silent. He's silent on all this. Oh yeah. Mum. Mum's the word. We went shopping yesterday. We went up to the Domain, which is the work-live community of the future. It's here in Austin. It's about 20 minutes north of us. And this, it literally is a, they just built a whole bunch of places for people to live and underneath it's all retail. So you got Apple stores, you got Windows stores, you got your Macy's, you got your Nordstrom's, everything. And I'm always paying attention to people and what they're doing and what, how they conduct themselves. And the reason I do this is because I do not have a phone that is distracting me.

1:55:53 I like to watch other people as they're on their phones. My favorite these days is women and their partners, men, and the women are, blah, blah, blah, let's go in here, let's go in here, and the guys are walking kind of a step and a half behind him on their phone. Yes, dear. And they're just, I mean, they're looking at scores or whatever. This was also during the game, I'm sure. And, yes, dear. Now, the keeper and I, of course, we're looking at everything. Let me tell you about the dogs. There's something new I've noticed. Uh-oh. Yes. Now we saw in succession three, I guess you call them full-bred, thoroughbred, or what do you call it? Clearly the race of dog that's been uncontaminated, it's pristine, it's like an Arabian version of a dog. Purebred is the word you're looking for. Purebred, thank you. Purebred Dalmatian. The dumbest dog in the world. A purebred Whippet and a purebred Great Dane.

1:56:53 And the lady next to the Great Dane, I mean she should have had a saddle on that bitch because she could ride this thing. She was not that big. And it came up to her waist. She could have ridden this thing. But what I notice is that all of these people, and particularly we were walking through Nordstrom. The dogs were in the store? Oh yeah! Oh yeah! A Great Dane, you saw a Great Dane in a Nordstrom store. And the Dalmatian and the Whippet. But here's what's interesting, the owners, they're not shopping. They are looking, and the dog is, you know, like, the dog is on the leash. And these owners are all looking like... Wait, wait, stop again. What do you mean the dog is on the loose? Leash, I said leash. Dog is on the leash. So the dog is on the leash, and the dog is like,

1:57:42 Clearly doesn't want to be there, and this is all three of them the case, but the owners they're not shopping They're looking stressful like I I've got to do my dogs my duck and then we're in the The untucket store I'll admit I buy sometimes shirts from untucket never heard of them It's just they make shirts that are designed to be not tucked in it doesn't matter and Lady and her husband and their dog They're in the store and the lady is scolding her dog in the following manner Stop barking if you don't stop barking. I'm not going to take you anywhere in the future. Let me just reiterate She's talking to a dog Stop barking now if you don't stop bark. I won't be able to take you anywhere anymore I mean that is the closest I've seen to anyone just being a

1:58:36 treating their dog pathetically like a child. I don't think the dog actually comprehends what the lady's trying to communicate. Dogs are people too. And it's gotten worse in our media. What is the book that, uh, when Patricia was pregnant with Christina? We must have received five copies of a very famous book that people love to give people who are expecting their first child. Nowadays it's definitely not Dr. Spock. No, it's the what to expect when you're expecting.

CHAPTER 34 / 41 Discussion

Vegan Pet Diets, Nutritional Risks for Cats

The discussion focuses on the dangers of applying human dietary trends, such as veganism, to pets. Veterinary experts warn that cats are obligate carnivores and that homemade or grain-free diets can lead to severe health issues, including bone deformities and paralysis in young animals.

chewy· vegan pets· cats· carnivores· veterinary medicine· bone deformities· pet food

1:59:13 It's a very famous book and every expecting parent is given a copy somewhere. No one tells you what to expect when you're expecting a new pet. Okay, Benny, we need to get you a crate, training treats, potty pads. But with Chewy's low prices, you'll find amazing deals on everything you need for your pets. Okay, so and I understand people who would prefer to have no children

1:59:57 And won a pet in instead of the children, and I'm okay with that. This is not something new I knew couples when I was growing up My my neighborhood buddy like his aunt and uncle I don't know if they couldn't have children But they didn't have children and they had two great Danes and these were there these were their babies but to completely use the same treatment and articles and clothing and to treat the animals as children I think shows a mental blockage that just needs to be addressed. I mean I'm not trying to insult anybody but when you're dressing up your dog with a party hat and saying it's your birthday and and then and then giving it a birthday cake you know

2:00:45 You're you're clearly missing something in your life, and you can have a dog and treat the dog like family But not like children. It's just wrong birthday that we've sort of made up is February the first we do a little birthday thing I always get her some treats and we have candles on the treats And then we put a little hat on her and we sing happy birthday to her you know it's the society default having kids that we decided not to have human kids and rescue dogs and we don't think of ourselves as childless. But we are a family, and she is our child. I do cook for her. I cook chicken breast. and then raw vegetables are good for dogs too. So. Chop up kale too, right? I chop sometimes kale, snap peas, even lettuce. I put all the kibbles back when she spits them out. I think I'm a hover mom. People don't even stop to ask whether you have kids. It's assumed. So I've had people say to me, how old are your kids? Before saying, do you have kids?

2:01:48 And so I will reply to that. You know, they have fur too. They have four legs and fur. A big impetus for me staying child free is because No, no, that's just not true. You can have a family with pets. But to say these are our children

2:02:31 And they wind up doing horrible things, really abusive things to these animals. You heard like, oh I cook up kale and may... This is not necessarily what animals need to be eating. In fact, in fact, I have another clip. Like many pet owners, Lily Clarkson turned to the internet when her dog Magpie began having digestion issues. When I first adopted her, I kept reading that grain-free was really good for new diets and for stomach issues. Grain intolerance is one of the most common dietary concerns that veterinary nutritionist Dr. Valerie Parker of the Ohio State College of Veterinary Medicine hears from pet owners.

2:03:07 she says food allergies, especially to grains, aren't really a problem in pets. Very rarely are there allergens to grains and that's a very common misconception. Parker has heard it all when it comes to alternative pet diets but reminds her patients that animals have vastly different nutritional needs than humans. When people try to apply their own diets to their pets, it doesn't always work out so well. Another common trend, especially for those who are meat-free themselves, is feeding their pets a vegetarian or vegan diet. Cats are carnivores. Now that doesn't mean that cats can't tolerate carbohydrates and plant sources of food in their food, but they are designed to eat certain meats. Pet owners concerned about the ingredients in pet foods may be tempted to make their own, but most homemade pet food recipes just don't contain the nutrients your pet needs and can cause severe health issues. The worst case scenarios will be significant.

2:04:01 bone deformities in young animals that don't grow their bones appropriately. They can get fractures, they can become paralyzed. So people, you know, they're like, oh, I'm vegan. My cat needs to be vegan. No, we're vegan. We're a vegan household. It's abusive. These animals are being cooped up in apartment buildings everywhere. I love dogs, contrary to what you say, John. I've had almost exclusively rescues and strays and dogs, cats, all of it. But it's... I think it just needs to be addressed. People are acting psychotically when it comes to their animals. Just treating them exactly, putting them in baby carriages, taking them into restaurants and putting them in baby seats. I've seen it all.

CHAPTER 35 / 41 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Baron Juan of Grenada

The hosts conduct a knighting ceremony for producers who have reached the $1,000 donation threshold. Notable titles include Sir Kevin of the Burning River, Sir Clay Alchemist of the Grand River, and a title upgrade for Baron Juan of Grenada.

knighting· sir kevin· sir clay· baron juan· grenada· value for value· peerage

2:04:55 Well, this is the end of the disgusting portion of the show. Dogs are people too. I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. We do have a few people to thank. It'll be a short segment so we can have more show. Kevin Coburn starts us off at $150 from North Olmsted, Ohio and he's got a call out here. This makes me a knight by the way. I hope he's on the list. What's his name? Hold on. What's his name? Yes, yes, he is on the list. Kevin Coburn.

2:05:38 I would like to be known as Sir Kevin of the Burning River. As for my table entrees, he'd like to get some absinthe and bratwurst. I think this has been on the list before. I know absinthe for sure. I don't know if we've had it in combo with bratwurst, but it's good. I've ordered it and she'll be at the table for you. He needs General Karma. We'll put that at the end for Seamus of Columbus and a call out to Dingo of Venencia. as a douchebag. Baron Walkman of Buckeye, $149.20. Christopher Pythoud, I think, Pythoud. Oh yeah, I'm sorry, Baron Walkman is not from Buckeye. He's from Parts Unknown. Christopher Pythoud is from Buckeye, Arizona, 11111. Dame Carol Ann of the East Hatchet Ranch in Pueblo, California, Colorado.

2:06:37 She's something here to say. Yeah, this is a... Please accept this donation to wish my second born Isaac Chase, aka Sir Crypto Knight of Colorado Springs a happy 38th birthday on October 15th. It's a gift I know will bring a smile to his face. He hit me in the mouth in 2016 and I've been getting more sane ever since. Nice. Probably not after that last segment. Thank you for all your hard work to bring us the deconstruction of the news and making me laugh. Also plug Isaac's business firearms training central.com Nice Firearms training central.com which you call a mouthful for a URL by the way Adam Yes, thanks for the ham radio 2.0 stuff. My first bone Joshua is getting us hooked on hooked up on that I gotta tell you we have no agenda hams calm now which includes a directory of

2:07:36 and ways to connect to our node. I won't go into all of it, what's there, but it's quite extensive. And again, you see how the genius of the No Agenda Nation works, where Buford K. just sent me a link on noagendasocial.com, which was a directory in OPML format. I sucked it right into the Freedom Controller built by Dave Jones, registered domain name, boom, we got a web page. Think what it would take at any radio station. You need clearance from the legal. Clearance from the legal. We need to talk to the legal. The legal's backed up. We'll get back to you in a week. You're so right. There were, I think, three no agenda hams or nams as we call ourselves at the meetup in Austin, including KA6ATN Paul, who

2:08:29 I don't know. Somehow he had to get... I think he's been listening for a while, but I met him on the No Agenda Ham thing, thing, thing. And I guess that he had some kind of excuse for his wife to come to the meetup. So he said, well, my wife's girlfriend Beth has a podcast. It's called Over65andTalking.com. Can you plug that? I said, yeah, no problem. So our NAMM is very resourceful. I guess so. Blessings to you both. Oh, he says, well, the wind up of this donation was blessings to you both. Was it from Dame Carol and all the producers around the world hoping to make the next meetup in the Springs at the end of the month. Really enjoyed the last one. Thanks to Andrew for coordinating and thank you very much for your support. Dame Carol Ann. Onward to Phil in Temecula, California, 9009.

2:09:32 He does need a de-douching first time donor. You've been de-douched. He's got his birthday on the birthday list and he wants some human resources for his, just human resource karma for our first child. We'll put that at the end for you. You betcha. Alexander Sulzberger, 8008. Sir Kevin McLaughlin, Earl of Luna, 6969. He says he needs emergency swash on enough karma. Okay. I've baked that in for you coming up. That's in all of the karmas. Baron Mark Tanner in Whittier, California, 6789. Juan from Harlem, Gitmo Nation Lowlands, 6666 in the Netherlands. And he will have a title change today. He was knighted as Chevalier Jean back in 2013.

2:10:22 And after many more years of $33.33 monthly donations, I passed the threshold for barrenhood back in January. I would now like to be named Baron Juan of Grenada. Or do we say Grenada? Grenada? Grenada. Grenada, Grenada, you say Grenada, I say Grenada. And I'd like to claim the Spanish city of Grenada or Grenada as its immediate surroundings as my territory all other knights and dames are invited for tapas at the Alhambra palaces. No jingle, no karma. Thank you. We should do a meet up in Grenada. Yes, we'll be there. Beautiful.

CHAPTER 36 / 41 Discussion

Clay Alchemist Sculptures, No Agenda Hams

The artistic work of Sir Clay Alchemist is praised for its professional quality and humor. The segment also highlights the growth of the "No Agenda Hams" community and the technical integration of ham radio directories into the show's infrastructure using OPML and the Freedom Controller.

clay alchemist· sculptures· ham radio· no agenda hams· opml· dave jones

2:11:03 Stephen Chevlin 6006, Ma Loves Columbus Day. Christopher Dechter 5678, a fave. Anthony Rodriguez 5510, Nancy Murphy 5244, Sven Eric Janssen in Austin, Texas. 52.30. And he needs a jobs comment for his smoking hot wife coming up at the end as well. John Lopez in Gradton Rapids, Michigan, $50.98. And this is important because he says it took a little under four years but he managed to obtain his knighthood. That's today. He would like to be known as Sir Clay Alchemist, Knight of the Grand River. For the roundtable, some hot orange juice and skillets.

2:11:49 Okay, and he'd like to mention that karma works to keep his pan his hands his hands pain-free While he sculpted a chimpanzee in person at the Grand Rapids Community College To fill you in, as you questioned about in my last donation, I sculpt characters then photograph them to make illustrations. Oh, okay, I remember. I've been working on a project specifically for my alumna show called On the Shoulders of Animals, which is about the test subjects leading up to the manned space flight. For most of the folks who can't make it, you can see it all at clayalchemist.com. Thanks again for years of keeping me informed. I look forward to this Sunday's episode. P.S. Exit Strategy, no agenda singles meetups for people with normal-sized amygdalas and perhaps OTG folk. There could be an app for that.

2:12:42 Yeah, yeah, no one would use it on there. We would no one would use it because they're all OTG. Are you single? Is your amygdala of normal size? Yes, you never find the app. No, you never find. Thanks for the exit strategy. His sculptures are really dynamite. I would look at him. Dynamite. How big are they? He's got a style. How big are they? How big is a big is a real artist. Really?

2:13:24 Severn, Maryland. Robert Kerback in Essexville, Michigan. Brandon Savoie in Port Orchard, Washington. He should be a sur by now. We got Dame Patricia Worthington in Miami, Florida. Robert Weber in Lake Forest, California. Rosson Tuchkov in London, UK. Mark Johnson in Aurora, California. Joseph Hatch in Springfield, Virginia. We got a birthday list for him, birthday call coming up. Joseph Ferris in Liberal, Kansas. He comes in a lot. Kimberly Redmond in Toronto, Ontario. Baroness Susan Johnson in Hillsborough, Oregon. Sir Kyle Meyer in Atlanta, Georgia. And last but not least,

2:14:10 Sir Jason de Luzio in Chatsford, Pennsylvania. I want to thank all these folks for contributing to show 1181 and Keeping us keeping us going for another show coming up next Thursday And I was just looking at clay alchemist calm. Holy crap. You're right. This is genius It's got this sculpted rat who's asleep on a bed of pharmaceuticals with a little oxy pill bottle open in the back It's called American Dreaming. That's some nice stuff. Does he sell it?

2:14:49 I haven't figured that part out yet, but he should. Yeah. I mean, if I could afford it, I'd, I'd try and buy a piece. It can't possibly be cheap. No, it's good. He's got this style. He's got a pro style. It's very fun. He's got the humor, which art likes nowadays. Art and humor always goes together well, if you can do it right. And this is very, uh, seems to me gallery quality stuff. Absolutely. I should take it for the museum quality stuff. Really, really, really. We have artists that listen to our show. Yes we do. Of all varieties, not just fine art. Musicians, what else? And such. And such, exactly. Thank you all very much. You are the ones who dragged us through this week with your support.

2:15:42 along with our executive producers. Remember, there were no associate executive producers. Very scandalous when you think about it for a show of this magnitude. But hey, you're producing it. You have just as much skin in the game. And these people helped us out enormously. Also, those who donated under $50 because they want to stay anonymous or if they're on one of our many programs, you see even the 33 33s a month can get you beyond knighthood into baronetdom, even barony. We appreciate all of it. Thank you so much and remember to support us for our Thursday show at Dvorak.org slash N A. Okay, human resource and jobs karma and some other swazzle-nuff karma. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma.

CHAPTER 37 / 41 Discussion

Birthday List, Tokyo Typhoon Meetup Report

The show's birthday list is read, followed by a report on a successful No Agenda meetup in Tokyo that took place despite a 5.7 earthquake and a typhoon. A calendar of upcoming meetups across the United States and internationally is provided to encourage listener participation.

birthdays· tokyo· typhoon· earthquake· meetups· no agenda nation· community

2:16:34 It is indeed I can't hear myself. Yes, it is the 13th of October 2019. Here's the birthday list for today. Baronet Chris of North Austin, 58 years old tomorrow. Grand Duke Nussbaum, he will be an official Grand Duke in just moments from now, October 13th, today. Sir Dave says happy birthday to his father, David Fugazotto Sr., he'll be celebrating tomorrow on the 14th.

2:17:09 Dame Carol Ann of East Hatchet Ranch says happy birthday to her son Isaac Chase, aka Sir Crypto Knight of Colorado Springs, turning 38 on Monday on Tax Day. And Phil says happy birthday to his wife Chloe, her third annual, that would be I guess 30 times around the sun. And Joseph Hatch celebrating tomorrow. Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe. Noah Janabia! Local 5-1-12 meetup, Sir Scott Morgan was in charge of that to date. Actually we had 21 attendees plus me. The second Thursday of the month has been chosen to actually try to make this meeting all about the attendees. Multiple nights as well as other sustaining producers were in attendance. Many of us had met others in the group from the wonderfully successful Austin meetup last year but this time we seem to have even better conversations. When Adam showed up

2:18:10 The vibe didn't change my hope that this meetup will become a solid group of fellow travelers seem to have a wonderful start Request by some attendees to have next month meet up at another location will be discussed via the no agenda 512 email distro group Right on so they're really organizing there, and thank you sir Scott for taking care of that There was a meetup planned in Tokyo this past weekend which was I Very successful because hey is sir mark and dame Astrid anything they do is successful But they also just to show you how good they are did it in the middle of a 5.7 earthquake and a typhoon And they still had including Earl of Tennessee

2:19:02 Kobol was there. The guys from Osaka couldn't come up because they could not travel. Also Derek and his girlfriend were in Tokyo. They were planning on going to the meetup, but his vacation, he says, well, we didn't go exactly as planned. They were hunkered down in their hotel room in Tokyo trying to outlast the typhoon, so they were not able to make it. But it was a very successful event. They had our heads printed, which is really all we care about. And there were other meetups this weekend as well, but those are the big ones. And I just find it fantastic that we have a typhoon and an earthquake in Tokyo, but that will not stop the No Agenda Nation from meeting.

2:19:48 Upcoming meetups October 19th in Atlanta, Santa Fe, Orlando and San Antonio. This is like it's like we're a minor league ball team. Louisville, Kentucky on the 20th. On the 24th Nashville, Tennessee. So there's two they have a regular meetup and an impromptu meetup. So on the 25th we have Portland and Charlotte, North Carolina. Then the 26 another Nashville, Tennessee meetup along with Colorado Springs. And coming up in November on the first in Seattle, the second in Boston, and looks like they're working on a tri-state. That would be New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, and possibly Pennsylvania for November 2nd. November 7th, Newport Beach, California and Myrtle Beach. And the 9th, North Charleston, South Carolina. And that is your meetup calendar for the coming weeks. These are places where you can meet people.

2:20:34 who are just like you. In fact, if you go to a No Agenda meetup and you see a table where there's all kinds of people who don't look like they belong together, that's the No Agenda table. Because they're all different, all colors, creeds, backgrounds, religions, race, whatever you want, ages. But they still have one thing in common, a normally sized amygdala and the willingness to listen and talk because they know that no one's going to trigger them no matter what your opinion is. NoagendaMeetups.com is where you can find out everything you need to know. And if there's not a meetup near you, please go ahead and start one yourself. And with that, it is time to do some nightings. Here you go. I thought you might've fallen asleep. Oh, you brought the big one. Oh, very nice. On the podium, Kebra Caberna.

CHAPTER 38 / 41 Discussion

Berkeley Aquatic Park, Dangerous Poop Contamination

A "poop report" focuses on the Berkeley Aquatic Park, which has been closed to the public due to dangerously high levels of bacteria. The contamination has ended long-standing activities like crew practice and ski jumping, highlighting the failure of local environmental management.

berkeley· aquatic park· poop· contamination· bacteria· east bay times· lake

2:21:21 John Lopez, both of you have supported the No Agenda Show in the amount of $1,000 or more. That gives you access and a deserved spot at the round table where all the knights and dames reside. And I'm hereby very proud to pronounce the Baron Juan of Grenada. I'm sorry. Sir Kevin of the Burning River and Sir Clay, alchemist of the Grand River. For you gentlemen, we have Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay. By request, Hot Orange Juice and Skillets, Absinthe and Bratwurst. Polish potato vodka. Let's throw in some harlots and halibos, some ruminous women and rosés, some vodka and vanilla, geishas and sake, bong hits and bourbon, ginger ale and gerbils, sparkling cider and escorts, breast milk and pablum. And mutton and mead. Both of you head over to noagendination.com slash rings. Get all your information in as soon as possible, your telemetry as it were. So Eric the Shield can get you your rings, your sealing wax and your certificates ASAP. Title changes.

2:22:16 I kind of gave it away there, but we have the title upgrade for Chevalier Jean. He becomes Baron Juan of Grenada today, and we could not be prouder to welcome him into this excellent peerage which can be found at itm.im slash peerage or at Dvorak.org slash peerage dot htm And thank you for your courage Baron one sir Kevin of the burning river and sir clay alchemist of the grand river and everyone else who supported the show as a part of our value for value system where you just give us whatever you thought it was worth to you for some in fact for 97% of all scientists that is nothing but it's those two there's two to three percenters who make up all the difference and we could not be more

2:23:07 happier and more proud of our association. Now, Dvorak.org slash NA for all of your support of the NO Agenda Show. That was a long one today. Yeah, it was okay. Now, I do have a poop report, of course, in the poop central. Oh, do we have a poop report jingle? I wish we did. Let me see. I have... Of course, you've got poop. Poop report. Of course we've got poop. Of course we've got poop. What is this? Use that as the jingle bass. I don't know. Now I got this from a blogger and I forgot to put the blogger's name. Not a blogger, I'm sorry, a podcaster because I'm looking at more podcasts now, same as you, because there's good stuff there.

2:23:56 And this is a Berkeley Aquatic Park report. Now I want to ask the chat room, if you recognize who this podcaster is, please tell us so he gets the credit for this. And I left a little bit at the beginning, which is his kind of... idealized lifestyle, I throw that in so you'd have a feeling for this guy and his report. Hey everybody, what's going on? Hell of a stream last night, boys. We're gonna have to limit those beer streams. I was pissing all through the night. And speaking of piss, next time you run into one of these California assholes who's telling you, you should

2:24:31 stole my future with your diesel-powered boat and your petrol-based car and your hamburgers. Tell them to eat a big bag of dicks. That state is completely fucked up. From San Francisco to San Diego back to LA and up to Oakland, all fucked up. Take a look at this. They're talking about a lake in Berkeley, and I'm sure you're familiar with Berkeley. Berkeley is full of all those hippies with Birkenstocks and piss-smelling hair. Well, these people who keep telling everybody that we need to change our ways or we're going to destroy the planet... Their lake is so full of poop that they have a warning saying, you know what? Maybe maybe you guys shouldn't swim in this lake because it's literally full of poop See, there's no safe haven in Berkeley. Your lakes are full of poop. Your streets are full of poop Your sidewalks are full of hypodermic needles and piss. There's no escape from the lefties

2:25:28 But they're gonna scream about our fucking cows and our cars. So here you go, let's take a look at this. We're over at eastbaytimes.com. City warns public to stay out of aquatic park in wake of dangerous contamination. City is trying to figure out what's causing the dangerously high levels of bacteria. Well, it's poop. It's poop Wow and and you called my dog segment disgusting Holy now I do like that. This is because I have a personal complaint Aquatic Park used to be, it's still there, it's off the freeway, it's a long, it's kind of a man-made lake that's designed for crew practice. University of California crew used to use it, other schools, you know, they would have six guys in a boat going as fast as they can up and down.

2:26:18 It used to be a used by the networks for ski jumping. They have a ski jump thing in within this park and people used to go bombing around and they jump over this ramp and go flying in the air. Nobody can do any of that. It used to be a boating thing, you know, Romantic couples used to boat on this thing, they used to rent boats, you'd go rowboating on there. No, you can't do any of this anymore, because this thing is completely contaminated. And it's just, they shut down the boating rentals, they don't do any more ski jumping. It's really pathetic and nobody seems to give a crap about it. But the one good thing about that last report, it did give me the ISO that I've been looking for. Okay, here we go. It's poop, it's poop.

CHAPTER 39 / 41 Discussion

San Francisco Political Dynasties, Newsom and Pelosi

A report details the interconnected history of four powerful families—the Browns, Newsoms, Pelosis, and Gettys—who have influenced California politics for 80 years. The narrative traces the lineage of current Governor Gavin Newsom and Speaker Nancy Pelosi back to mid-century political machines.

gavin newsom· nancy pelosi· jerry brown· getty family· political dynasties· california

2:27:04 Perfect end of show ISO John very well done yes highbrow always always always go for the lowest for the lowest cheap laugh always good hey it's interesting I had a I had a a clip about San Francisco which I thought was not quite as interesting as this I mean this really hit ticked all the boxes for me this is about the the families that have run San Francisco And I didn't even know exactly how much intermingling there was between these four families. The whole video, which it's produced, I don't know who produced it.

2:27:46 It's in the show notes about eight minutes long. I'll just take a couple minutes just so you get an idea of how incestuous San Francisco really but California has be is has always been Pat Brown's father Edmund Joseph Brown was known for running scams and gambling operations in San Francisco With the help of businessman William Newsom II, Pat Brown became governor of California for two terms. During his governorship, he awarded the Squaw Valley concession contract to William Newsom III and his partner, John Pelosi. The deal was criticized for the state of California paying for everything and getting nothing.

2:28:35 William Newsom III grew up with the governor's son, Jerry, who was training to be a Jesuit priest. John Pelosi's son, Paul, married Nancy D'Alessandro, daughter of Thomas D'Alessandro Jr., who was known for smuggling heroin into the U.S. with Lucky Luciano and the Baltimore Mafia. John Pelosi's son, Ron, married William Newsom's daughter, Barbara. Over ongoing disputes about the Squaw Valley concession, William Newsom Sr. threatened to hurt the governor politically just as Governor Brown was running for a third term against Ronald Reagan. He lost. But eight years later, the former governor's Jesuit son, Jerry, reclaimed the governorship in 1974.

2:29:30 He appointed William Newsom III to a Placer County judgeship in 1975, and three years later to the state court of appeal. William Newsom was an attorney for oil magnate J. Paul Getty, named in the 1966 Guinness Book of World Records as the world's richest private citizen. and while serving on the appellate bench in the 1980s, he helped Getty's son, Gordon, secure a change in state trust law that allowed him to claim his share of a multi-heir trust. After Newsom retired from the bench, he became administrator of the Getty Trust and provided seed money for his son Gavin Newsom, Nancy Pelosi's nephew, to start the plump jack business that led to a career in San Francisco politics.

2:30:22 as mayor of San Francisco and lieutenant governor of the state of California. Gavin Newsom was informally adopted by the Gettys after his parents divorced, and recently succeeded family friend Jerry Brown to be the current governor of California. For 80 years, these four families have ruled over the state of California politically. I really despise the creepy porn music that people use for these types of reports because the information is good, but that was unnecessary. But I didn't know that Pelosi, Newsom, Brown, for 80 years these people have been ruining the state of California.

2:31:06 Yeah, that's only on the Democrat side. There's actually a Republican story. Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure. It's fallen apart. Who's in the Republicans who are a-holes? Well, there used to be this guy Artie Samish who used to pretty much run California. But most of the Republican influence died in the 50s, I think, when Pat Brown Jr., which is Jerry Brown's dad when Pat Brown jr. Got in the Democrats pretty much took over the state except for that small moment when Reagan was governor and then another small moment when when Schwarzenegger was governor and we also had we had one other Republican in there the rest of them were just staunch Democrats. It's just just a bunch of yeah, let's all old-school

CHAPTER 40 / 41 Discussion

California Wildfires, Historical Climate Records 1860

The hosts argue that California's wildfires are a result of poor forest management rather than global warming, citing the 1860 diary of botanist William Brewer. Brewer's records describe extreme weather events and massive fires in the state long before modern industrialization.

wildfires· pg&e· global warming· william brewer· 1860· forest management· climate history

2:31:57 Eyes are connected, but I didn't know the connection between all these people. That's Everyone pretty much knows about that. I have an update and a correction on the California Well the California situation starting first with the ham radio repeaters that is like oh, they're there They're kicking them all out turns out That the hams were a little bit alarmist California. It is one repeater that actually is an out-of-state operation and they're the one repeater is getting kicked out and a couple of these hams made these videos and posts and all freaking out as it looked more like clickbait than anything so very very disappointed in people who are gonna save the world right?

2:32:50 That's disappointing. Yeah, so I'd into it too. There's a lot of local stories about it, but apparently it's just one it's just okay just one very bogus, but bogative now I want to cut no go ahead I caught a new buzzword unless you're still on that topic. No. I just want to do one thing about California. I'll be done I want to bring this story back. We have the wildfires in Los Angeles, of course we have the fear of fires starting in in Northern California. And by the way, I got a couple notes from people who work at Pacific Gas and Electric and they say, hey, we're shutting off the power because we're just getting sued, so we can't afford it anymore. It's what everybody deserves. I agree. But here's the thing.

2:33:43 These fires are not global warming, this is not something new to California, and I recite from the 1860 diary from a young botanist raised in New York, schooled in Connecticut, who found himself on the payroll of the newly formed California Division of Mines and Geology. His job, William Brewer this is, was to roam the vast new state of California in 1860, take samples and make observations of plant and animals. And I recite, over four years journeying across California, I have witnessed torrential rains that turned the Central Valley into a vast white-capped lake, intolerable heat waves that made the fats of our meats run away in spontaneous gravy, violent earthquakes and fires I could only describe as great sheets of flames extending over acres. It has always been hell. Always.

2:34:49 So don't be fooled that this all of a sudden is global warming because it's just not true. We had a lot, we had it pushed back a little bit in the probably in the 70s I think when they had controlled burns everywhere, they had Ducks Unlimited was a massive kind of a hunting organization of hunters and shooters who usually like to go duck hunting. And they would burn down most of the brush land and swamp land around Sassoon Valley, and they would burn it every year. I was at the air pollution district at the time, and they had these so-called controlled burn days. They had to be on a specific day when the conditions were right. And they'd torch off these hundreds of acres because they're gonna burn anyway.

2:35:42 But if you get them done in the right time, the ducks will come and we can kill some ducks. So this was a lot of, and the forest management was different back then. They kept all the brushes, you know, they did, they culled a lot of trees and they had a lot more breaks. This all went by the wayside, because the duck guys were bad actors because they wanted to kill the poor ducks. So fuck that. So let the whole area burn to the ground by itself when it felt like it. And when it's inconvenient, when there's a windstorm, then it goes up and then it blows, instead of having it on a burning, when there's a day, it was a nice and perfect day for it, calm, not gonna set the neighborhood on fire. I mean, this is California, and it's just been mismanaged by these four families you're talking about. They're the ones who screwed it up. Well, something should be done about them. Yeah, well, they just get elected and elected. I do have two clips I wanna play before we finish. All righty.

CHAPTER 41 / 41 Discussion

PG&E Solutioning, Prince Estate Music Dispute

The program concludes with a critique of the buzzword "solutioning" used by PG&E and a debunking of a Democracy Now! report regarding Donald Trump's use of Prince's music. The hosts explain that venue performance licenses (ASCAP/BMI) allow for the legal playing of music at rallies regardless of estate objections.

pg&e· solutioning· prince· purple rain· ascap· democracy now· amy goodman

2:36:40 Because I and one of them is a quiz. Oh, oh for me. Yeah This is the this is the from the Pacific Gas and Electric presser Which I never liked that term they had they discussed their website going down all the time. I want you to spot Potentially a new buzzword is a very short clip. The buzzwords should be obvious. Okay. Let me just get centered. Oh Okay, I'm ready. Yeah, as I covered earlier, so first of all, thanks for the question. We do acknowledge there's been issues with the website pg.com throughout the day today. We are solutioning that we have teams dedicated to looking at that right now. Oh man, no more jiggling the handle. We just solution that shit. Solutioning. Please tell me it's solutioning. Of course it's solution. Whoever says something like this. We're solutioning it. I was taken aback by that personally.

2:37:35 Now the other one I thought was just a classic disingenuous media clip, and I believe it's from Democracy Now, yes it is. And I want, they're gonna play, this is about, again, you know, if you're gonna do media, you gotta complain about Trump, but there's a moment in here that I happen to have some facts about. So it's bogus, this is bogus, but play this clip. Yeah, I don't know which one it is. Oh, I'm sorry. It's Trump. Complaints about Trump, of Trump. He also came under fire for playing Prince's Purple Rain at the rally. Despite confirming a year ago the campaign would not use Prince's music, Prince's estate has refused to give Trump permission to use his songs.

2:38:21 Cities are also complaining that the Trump campaign is not reimbursing them for services provided by local police and fire departments during his rallies. A study by the Center for Public Integrity says these services total more than $800,000. Well, this has got to do with you. Yes. With your little lecture about ASCAP. Yeah. So even though it is true that there is a note, I saw it myself, that somewhere someone from a campaign in 2016 said, OK, we won't use any Prince material. There is no right for them to give.

2:39:03 Prince's work falls under performance rights and as long as the venue has paid their dues, it's a blanket license, they can play whatever they want in the venue. Now there are certain things that Trump couldn't do like use it as an endorsement etc. But just them playing it whether he's coming on stage or going off stage is bought and paid for and completely legal. So they can bitch and moan all they want, and I wish Prince were around, because I don't know if Prince would be against it. I'm not so sure. He might have surprised everybody. You don't know. You don't know. Now the second part of that clip talks about the moaning and groaning by the cities. During the Obama administration,

2:39:50 And my wife is very involved in politics in the Port Angeles area. It turns out the same thing was going on with Obama because these presidents, whoever they are, Obama or Trump, they don't bring that up. It was the same thing. The locals up in the Clallam County were worried sick because Obama had scheduled a big ConFab up there meet up. He's gonna go visit a few places and they were worried because their budgets were already stretched thin and they and they knew that the general policy of the president is they don't pick up the tabs for the police and fire and all the people that get involved and they were worried sick that Obama was actually gonna show up because they're gonna be stuck with this huge bill and he didn't show

2:40:32 didn't show up and they were so relieved. So this is bull crap. This is a disingenuous report on both halves of that report. The first half about the music, they should bring up what you just said. At least to give people some feeling for what's going on. And they should bring up the other part, which I just said. So this is what we're dealing with and we deal with this week after week and we really do appreciate the listener support and producer support. Well, I could not end it on a better note, John. You said it. And what outfit was that that reported that so egregiously? That was Democracy Now! The War and Peace Report with Amy Goodman. Oh, people actually make a lot of money to do that crap. Nice. Well, we are podcasters and proud of it, and there's not much else we can do, actually, so we're just happy, and we're happy that you are a part of it and supporting us.

2:41:25 compel you and urge you to support us by going to Dvorak.org slash NA. I know it's been a bit rocky on the stream today, but I'm sure VoidZero and Bemrose and Darren O and everybody will figure it all out. They always do. Coming up after the show, Random Thoughts number 55 on NoAgendaStream.com. That'll be Thought Crime is the title of that one. And coming to you from the Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas. We are in FEMA Region No. 6 for all your governmental map lookups. In the capital of the drone star state, remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. Until next time, in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. It was a nine-car train today, by the way. We're back to normal. We return on Thursday with more No Agenda deconstruction, thanks to Tom Starkweather, Freddie Hotfingers, and Charles Couch for our end of show mixes. Until Thursday, adios everybody, and such. No Agenda!

2:42:33 Talk for you now, Australia! Calling out, are you ready to live on the street? Winter's here, your mind is staying in the streets. Apple Blitz Chicago, down in New Orleans, in New York City.

2:43:18 and pooping. They'll be pooping everywhere. They'll be sleeping in the street. No matter what you wear, as long as you are there. Grab a rope, everywhere. Around the pooping, pooping in the street. Here's an invitation across the nation. A chance for a host to meet. They'll be sleeping and praying.

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2:45:07 I All right, and so so but I'm just saying so he does that one you'd be able to talk That's what I'm saying when I came out and I came when I publicly stated You know, it's really funny. I see all those red lights or that means you're live, right? As soon as I start talking about the fake news, I see those lights go off so fast

2:46:02 But then they come back on. The president can, in terms of his or her behaviors, show exactly where their heart is. The greatest thing that any of us has to offer is love. Well, I'm going to assume it's a guy who said that. It's a great question and thank you very much. It's all about round the clock sex. And my pronouns are she, her and hers. She, her and hers. Mine too. Alright. Alright. Yes. Hey, hey, hey, hey, guys, guys. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yo, guys, chill out, guys. You know, we've been through it all. I, I know. I know. Yes. Come on, man. It's pronounced Jif according to the guy who invented the word. It's pronounced Jitty according to the guy who invented the word. Al Sharpton. Democrats are outright jitties.

2:46:51 They got all jitty with it. Jitty. They're getting jitty. Getting jitty. Getting all jitty. Jitty. They got all jitty with it. They're getting jitty. Getting jitty. Jitty. They're all jitty about a shutdown. The best podcast in the universe! Mopo. Dvorak. Dot org. Slash N-A. It's poop. It's poop.