Vapegoat

00:00 No, it wasn't staged! Printing homelessness in 3D and broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 in the frontier of Austin, Texas. Capital of the drone, Star State. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we feel so bad about the departure of John Bolton. I can't tell you. I'm John C. DuBois. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning! Yeah, crying over that one. What took him so long?

00:44 How'd he get there in the first place? That's the thing no one can... there's still an unanswered question. Well, I think there... it cannot be a coincidence that the Taliban, banana, cancels or that Trump cancels the Taliban after they blow something up and Bolton's gone the next day. You gotta think that may be connected. Well, it's definitely a coincidence. Yeah, exactly. Coincidence? I think not! Yeah, uh-huh, sure. So, yeah, that was some news. But I found the news for me that I wanted to start with today. And hopefully everybody paid attention because we laid out in some detail on the previous episode exactly what was going on with the Vape Wars! Vape Wars. Wait a minute. Wait, hold on. Yeah, you gotta do the jingle. Vape Wars! And to the T, exactly as expected.

01:46 And I think I even said pay attention because you'll see how it really works where the media is complicit and politicians are complicit and the president is complicit and it's all to get a couple of big players a solidified spot in the marketplace that crushes everybody else. And this is the vape wars. I'd like to... Now there is important information that needs to be conveyed in particular to members of our audience because I also got a boots on the ground report from Justin the drug dealer because we have different vaping technologies that are being conflated in particular by the mainstream. Let's start with the number one issue that I have with their communication.

02:32 e-cigs, e-cigarettes is bullshit. They use that term to equate vaping with cigarettes. There are no e-cigarettes anymore. The thing that comes closest is the Juul, which is called a Juul, not an e-cig, it's called a Juul. It's a vape. And there's one other you identified, John Vu's or something? Or there's some other competitor? You know, I saw it. They actually had an ad. They have a shitty ad because I can't remember their name. Duh! I was just gonna say the same thing. It's not a shitty ad by any means It's a really well produced ad except for that one fact. It's kind of I can't remember their name booze V U Z e Could that be it booze? I think so. It's something else. It starts with an M I believe and it's a cuter device cooler looking little device than the jewel. No, it's the booze I think this there's only one of whose yeah, I think it's the booze. Yeah, I

03:33 Yeah, it's the same idea. V-U-S-E. Vooze. I don't know. Well, I'm going to behold my opinion on that being the name until I see the ad again and see if I can remember it. Anyway, continue. All right. So let me talk about the three basic vaping technologies. First, there is the sub-ohm tank. And this is a bat... And the different sizes for everything. In general, it's a battery. And that can be a very large battery and a tank that holds the liquid and in that is the coil. And it's called sub-ohm because the resistance of the coil is under one ohm in resistance.

04:11 And with that's the stuff that if you jack it up enough you can blow huge vape clouds if you're If you are experimental and you try other types of coils you can short the battery and kill yourself So you know most people go and blow. Yeah, most people go for a pretty simple system. I have the What do I use? The Smok, S-M-O-K. The Stick V8 and the tank that goes with it. And those are, I would say, fairly safe. Then we have the vape pen for which you can, which is very thin, looks like a pen. That's just a battery and the controls to turn it on or off or store it. And you will buy little cartridges with vape liquid in that or you can get a very tiny tank that you can fill up yourself. And we call that a vape pen. And then there's also of course the sticks, the vapes that we talked about, which is

05:10 Joule and Vuze and they have a little cartridge that is pre-filled that you snap right on to the end because that thing is essentially just a battery and so it's got the coil, it's got a prefab coil and the juice in there. Then we have THC, which is... Now there's many ways people do this and I'm not going to get into the more esoteric versions of it, but you have the vape pen and you can buy a cartridge just like with the e-liquid only it has the THC in it, which is then... There's some additives in there which actually help it, you know, make it vaporize. And let me start with that because that is where there is some actual danger.

05:56 This is more important than this whole vaping bullshit because I'm sure I like to vape THC But I became very wary a while ago when I start coughing off of one I talked to Justin the drug dealer I said this is no good and he really did a deep dive and he brought me a report. So what's the problem is the people who package and sell THC vape cartridges to the consumer with pretty colors and often with, you know, things to attract children, I'm sure, but they're just taking a pre-made mixture which they buy from what they believe is a reputable source and they put it in there and even dank, there's a whole bunch of these big no names that do this. Then you have the manufacturing itself

06:41 Which is not inexpensive, you know just to build a lab will cost you five hundred thousand to three quarters of a million dollars and you have this combination of some oils and some other liquids that make it vaporize not unlike the e-liquid vape and Only we've seen a number of these manufacturers, maybe one, maybe more, who started putting other shit in there such as the vitamin E acetate just to get it to be more liquid and to vaporize. That is where the actual danger is. You do not want to be vaping that stuff. It can be checked by anyone who has the test equipment, which is just chemical testing. So my drug dealer does that for me. But if you

07:31 If you are worried in general, the liquid in your THC tank should be not If you tip it back and forth, it shouldn't flow very quickly. In fact, it should be almost like syrup or kind of like molasses. Then you're probably okay. So that's important because I don't want anyone dying from that shit. And we'll hear that they may have found a culprit for these bogus manufactured carts. Because these guys just buy them in China off of Alibaba and put their stuff in there. And the manufacturers just think they're getting the same thing they always do. And if they don't, people die. Bad. Now let's get to the vaping thing. The whole mission was to get state laws in place with hundreds of lobbyists

08:13 to have very lenient laws for tobacco flavored, i.e. the main business of Juul, tobacco flavored vape products and to push everybody else out because they wouldn't be able to afford the FDA testing procedure for your more popular vape liquids which are ones with different flavors and fruity and even mint actually or menthol. It got better for them because of all this conflation of people dying and we don't know what's going on and it's all scary. The FDA stepped in and created a rule above everybody else, which is absolutely the best.

08:56 And they announced it with the president and the first lady. You could not have asked for more if you are the big player in the vape industry. Here's a clip from the president in the Oval Office. Well, they've become very rich companies very fast and the whole thing with vaping is a very profitable And I want companies, look you know that, I fight for our companies very hard. Yeah, what companies is he fighting for, Prez? That's why I'm fighting with China, that's why I'm fighting with other countries. If you look at European Union and if you look at Japan and if you look at so many others including South Korea and many others, we're constantly dealing with them to make it good for our companies because I view it as jobs.

09:45 My view is income for our country and jobs Vaping has become a very big business as I understand it like a giant business in a very short period of time But we can't allow people to get sick, and we can't have our youth be so affected You see this is where it pisses me off because there's no evidence anyone got sick from an e-liquid vape experience but definitely from the THC and hear the president saying oh we don't want kids to get sick hearing it and that's how the first lady got involved and she's got a son together that is a... People were obsessing over this one line on Twitter instead of focusing on what's actually happening now. Oh, it's not really his son. Oh, their heads exploded. Oh, what is he saying? We can't allow people to get sick and we can't have our youth be so affected and I'm hearing it and that's how the first lady got involved and she's

10:43 got a son together that is a beautiful young man and she feels very, very Strongly about it. She's seen it. We're both reading it a lot of people are reading it, but people are dying with vaping So we're looking at it very closely and you know, if nothing else this is a conference that's going to let people know about it because people are going to watch what we're saying and Parents are going to be a lot tougher with respect to their children. A lot of people think vaping is wonderful. It's great It's really not wonderful. That's one thing I think we can say definitely Commissioner, it's not a wonderful thing. It's got big problems. We have to find out the extent of the problem. It's so new. It's so new. But we're going to find out. And I hope that parents that, you know, they have children and the children are a certain age. I hope they're going to be able to make wise decisions, maybe based on what we're saying today. OK, so complete misinformation, blah, blah, blah.

11:44 For sure, children, and I'll just say under 18, should not be vaping nicotine or anything. None of that is good for you in the developing body, and marijuana isn't good for you either if your brain is still developing. But let's see what is really going to happen. So we have the Health and Human Services working together with the FDA, and here's the actual announcement, and you'll see what happens is the The big guys win, the thousands of little companies who built the industry with their e-liquids will be squashed. Today President Trump announced that the Food and Drug Administration will be finalizing guidance that removes all flavored e-cigarettes from the marketplace other than tobacco flavored e-cigarettes.

12:29 Why is that important? We are seeing an absolute surge in high school and middle school kids using these flavored products. Mint, menthol, fruit flavor, alcohol flavor, bubble gum. We've got to stop it. We're going to have a whole generation of children addicted to nicotine and that's just horrible. And President Trump, as the great public health leader that he is, is going to put a stop to it. We're gonna let these tobacco flavored e-cigarette products remain on the market until they apply for FDA approval But that's just because adults may need them to help with stopping smoking cigarettes or cigars But if we see actions that target these products towards kids or make them available to kids or if we see kids start flowing into tobacco flavored e-cigarettes we're coming after that too so under the guise of oh kids will start vaping because they're attracted to the yummy flavors and

13:18 As far as I know, kids were always attracted to smoking things, to cigarettes and menthol and whatever. But that's the cover because Juul makes the most popular tobacco product. So by the start of the new year, all of the, or actually it'll be probably about nine months, all flavored e-liquids will be banned. Unless you get an FDA approval, which is exactly what these small companies can't afford. It'll cost up to a million dollars per flavor that you want to introduce to the market. And of course we'll see Juul expanding their line from their tobacco flavored, they'll bring back or they probably will never even get rid of their menthol and they'll bring in their own. And all the small guys are effed.

14:11 In fact, Juul left the Vapor Technology Association over this dispute. And of course the Vapor Technology Association is pissed because these guys participated in screwing them out of existence. What do I have here? I have the final... Wait a minute, that's not the one I wanted. Here's the CNBC who talked a little bit about the huge market. Ingest, of course. The fact of the matter is that we did a study and there are almost 14,000 vapor companies in the United States. Almost 12,000 of those are retail vape shops, oftentimes mom and pop shops. And they sell a wide variety and a diverse product range of flavored vapor products to adult smokers. You take those flavors off of the market precipitously and what will happen is those shops will shut down. We're talking about a total economic impact of 166,000 jobs, 70,000 of which are direct retail jobs.

15:13 You take those products out of the market, there is no business model for people just selling a tobacco flavor. And the real harm here is the fact that those consumers that are buying those products from them will have two options, both bad and worse. The first option is that they go back to smoking. And that's not what we're saying. It's what the FDA said in open court in June. What they said in court was that dramatically and precipitously removing vapor products from the market will lead to an increase in smoking. And the worst case is that it leads to more black market problems because that is what the American consumers have said they will do. They'll go to smoking or go back to the black market. So there's your situation. And I don't know if the president is just completely uninformed and dumb. I'm afraid he actually has an in with Altria and someone lobbied and word got up to him like, oh yes, this is really what's happening.

16:08 People are really dying, but they're not. They're not dying from the e-liquid. Now, long term, I don't know. It's only been around for 10 years, so we don't know the long term health effects of vape liquid. But for sure, you have to be careful with your THC and get it from a reputable source who has tested it. And that's what I got. Well, I'll ask you a question then. OK. When was vaping technology invented? Was it patented? And when did the patent run out? And why don't we hear about this? I don't know if that's a great question because I never said it was a great question. I'd be hesitant to call it that It's a question that's been on my mind because it seems to me that somebody could have cleaned up on this

16:57 You know if it was patented, why wouldn't it have been if you're smart? Here's another minor twist to the story. Every single vaporizer device comes from China. Every single one. So I don't know who, if, you know, who or if there's even a patent. I have no idea. It may be very, very old. The idea is not new. Vaporizers are not new. But China makes everything. That's just another interesting little Ripple in this whole risk and even make our own little battery. Well, I would think Elon Musk came up with a safe one. No So yeah, I think it's I think it's just Chinese a flood of the market. I don't think it makes any difference No one can make it cheaper. I don't think there's any any companies here that make that could be wrong But I'll find out if if there's u.s. Made I'll buy that I'll use that

17:53 They did find a scapegoat, thank goodness, in the illegal vape making business, in the manufacturing. This is people... This is Wisconsin. ...asked me to pass, is this one of the largest drug operations you've had in Kenosha? I don't think it was, but of this type, it's the largest we've ever had. And as far as I know, it's probably one of the largest in the country. They found 31,200 vape cartridges. filled already, ready to be shipped out. Each was filled with one gram of THC. They found approximately 98,000 vape cartridges unfilled. And what they would do is they would hire people and they would actually pay them. Jobs! Initially $20 an hour. And they would take THC oil, which is on the screen here, and they would take a syringe and they'd inject it into the cartridges. They make it sound really scary. But the problem is that these guys, who is now known as the vape goat,

18:54 Was probably cutting it. He was cutting it up with vitamin E trying to you know to dilute it Make it work better with less THC make more money and you just can't be Vaporizing chemicals, it's not a good idea. You know glycerin. All right, you know We have that in a lot of stuff in your in your birthday cake, but you know vitamin E That was never part of the original formula So that's what we really have to be careful about. And all this squashing and an entire industry will be gone, gone in a year. Very disappointing. You're actually disappointed? Yeah, I'm very disappointed in my government and I'd see the president like that's just F you man. Get a fucking clue. Get a clue even. Yeah, get a clue. Yeah, I'd find that extremely disappointing.

19:50 And the worst part is the mainstream media... Are you shocked and dismayed? No, I predicted it. What are you talking about? I didn't imagine it would come three days. So then why are you even bringing up that you're disappointing the president when you already predicted this behavior? I'm disappointed... okay. You should have been pre-disappointed. I think I was pre-disappointed, but I wasn't prepared for the actual letdown of it all. But it's fun to watch the m5m collude and conflate all these different stories into scaring everybody and going along with the program I have to stop you now

20:30 You used the word conflate way too often in this report. No, I actually the reason I did it is because the previous report I said conflate and I said no that's not the word and I went back and looked it up and I decided to use it for the report. I've used it twice. But thanks for ant-fucking me. No, no, three. Okay, all right fine. I'm just telling you you're supposed to report these things. Yes, I got it. So I think that summarizes the whole thing is ever the still missing patent and Also, I think it might be interesting to know how this who started this craze in the first place which craze the vape craze Yeah, well that that is an interesting question. I don't know but it's been ten years. I know but Someone someone is ground zero of this. Yeah someone somewhere just gets no credit

21:29 Yeah, it's probably some hipster with a man bun so you know we may not want to find the answer to that It probably is some hipster with a man bun as a matter of fact the next Big piece of news would undoubtedly be brexit Wow what's news about brexit? Oh, well, we got a whole bunch of fun things happening. I mean, you know, of course now the The Parliament is in pro-rogue, so they have been suspended. Well actually, here's the BBC who have a little recap of what happened this week in Brexit. It's been a long and often dramatic parliamentary session, and as it came to an end, it was a long and dramatic night.

22:17 As the ceremony for prorogation got underway, a group of MPs staged a protest around the Speaker's chair, holding up signs saying, silenced. I do want to make the point that this is not a standard or normal prorogation. It is I don't require any assistance from you Mr. Stevenson you wouldn't have the foggiest idea where to start in seeking to counsel me on this. I require no response from you. And then there were cries of shame directed at Conservative MPs as they left the chamber.

23:04 It all followed a fiery debate in the Commons where MPs again rejected the idea of a snap election in mid-October and Boris Johnson again reiterated that he has no intention of delaying Brexit. This government will not delay Brexit any further. We will not allow the emphatic verdict of the referendum to be slowly suffocated by further calculated drift and paralysis. And while the opposition run from their duty to answer to those who put us here, they cannot hide forever. The moment will come.

23:46 The moment will come when the people will finally get their chance to deliver their verdict, Mr. Speaker, on how faithfully this House executed... Say what? I'm just saying he's... he is... well, just play the whole thing, but it seems that he right there either said there's going to be a people's vote or there's going to be a new election. The moment will come when the people will finally get their chance to deliver their verdict, Mr. Speaker, on how faithfully this House executed their wishes. And I am determined that they will see that it was this government that was on their side. No, he's saying, he's saying the verdict was

24:33 to leave and they will get their chance, he finally they will get the chance to decide who was good and bad I think that's his way of saying we are going to have an election. But Boris Johnson is being attacked on two fronts. One is the legality of the prorogue, which we discussed and has been kind of floating out there, that he could be arrested because it's illegal. And in essence what he did is he lied. He lied to the Queen! Did you lie to the Queen when you advised her to prorogue to suspend Parliament? Absolutely not. And indeed, as I say, the High Court in England

25:12 plainly agrees with us, but the Supreme Court will have to decide. We need a Queen's speech. We need to get on and do all sorts of things. So I'm not sure where that is, but the latest, and this is almost like, you know, anti-Trumpian stuff what they're doing. Now they've figured out how to bring Boris Johnson down, everybody. Here's the story. Boris Johnson's backers, so his campaign funders and people who support his mission, are all making hundreds of millions on shorting the market and it's clearly collusion. So the BBC interviewed one of these donors, Crispin O'Day, who has already made 220 million pounds from shorting the markets. I don't know exactly what he was shorting, but he's shorting the markets. He's shorting. It's an Italian expression, il mattino ha ora in bocca. The morning has gold in its mouth.

26:09 and never has one felt so much that idea as this morning, really. I discover Crispin has two reasons to be cheerful. Brexit and bonds. Overnight he's made 220 million quid, betting markets will collapse as his campaign succeeds. I still think tomorrow they're going to take it all away from me, you know, because I've lived for too long in the euro world. You might have been up all night, but I'm feeling fresh as a daisy. So they got the perfect guy with the evil laugh. That's not very clear on what this guy did. I mean, he's obviously playing the I mean, the only thing

26:59 The only thing that I can see somebody like that can make that much money overnight is playing currency. Well, you could play any... I mean, this is bullcrap. Well, the report said bonds, which is possible because... What is bonds? He's shorting bonds? I'm just telling you what the report is. In what world are bonds... Shortable? Are bonds going down? I'm just telling you what the reporting is, what the reporting is saying. The reporting is saying that Boris Johnson's backers have been shorting the market and they know exactly what BoJo's gonna do and so they're just cleaning up. All of it's bullcrap. They're just making stuff up to make Boris Johnson look bad, which is what you do. But what really came out to the forefront this week was Operation Yellowhammer. And we talked about Yellowhammer in January

27:52 As the secret plan for what the UK will do in the worst case no deal Brexit scenario it was kind of laughed at as, oh, what is this? It doesn't exist. It's not real. Now it's out in the open. Now it turns out to be real. The British government's worst case Brexit scenarios makes for a bleak read. Potential panic buying and public disorder. A no deal departure could mean severe disruption to cross-channel routes problems for fuel, medical and fresh food supplies and protests and counter-protests across the country. Operation Yellowhammer was published on Wednesday after a request from lawmakers. Prepared on August 2nd, it says public and business readiness for a no-deal outcome would likely be low. The document states lorries could have to wait up to two and a half days to cross the English Channel and British citizens could face more immigration checks at EU border posts.

28:49 disruption could last a possible three months. Information sharing between police and security services would also be affected. Documents from Operation Yellowhammer first came to light in the Sunday Times newspaper on August the 18th. Michael Gove, Minister in charge of No Deal preparations, said then that the document was not up to date. Despite handing the information over on Wednesday, he refused to do the same with advice from government advisors about suspending Parliament. So that's just a big fracas. It's like that one thing in there So police won't be able to talk to each other because of this. Oh, yeah, yes What's the internet gonna go down? I get all the power? No, no, it goes so this is can't bring any power over Well, I'm gonna take you there. This is part of black vulture see See black we have yellow hammer and black vulture. I

29:48 These Brits, man, they're nuts in Parliament. So Black Vulture is showing all these things that will happen, but also what the EU was planning. So when we talk about the police not being able to communicate, that's because of the technology they're using, these digital radios, and gosh, I guess the EU controls the frequencies or something of that nature. And then we had Lord James of Blackheath, who's kind of a backbencher blowhard, although he talks softly, And he threw the bombshell down in Parliament saying, well let me just tell you, we better get out because if we don't, the European army is going to take over. We have this wonderful paper called the Yellow Hammer which tells us all the dreadful things which will happen if we do go no-go.

30:32 Now, my secretary has got an alternative list which I have compiled called the Black Vulture, which is my list of the things which they don't know about which will happen if we don't go no deal. And the first of those is the hazard it creates for the crowd. But the second, will somebody please tell us the truth about the European Defence Union? This is by far the biggest issue facing the British public and they know nothing about it officially. Can we please have a proper account of what it entails? Is it really true that the government has entered into private agreements with the European community, that they will on completion of remain or whatever it is to be

31:10 transfer to the European Union in Brussels the entire control of our entire fighting forces including all their equipment. You may jest, my Lords, but it has been done and you must check it out. It is too important to ignore. We must know the truth of this. We must have it clear for the whole public to know. I believe it is true and I think we should be told. I have understanding that it is intended that the oath of every serving member of our forces will be cancelled and they will be required to undertake a new oath of loyalty to Brussels.

31:45 And we have had in recent months, I understand, a series of people sent from our armed forces to create and install the command and control centers to be used for the control of our troops once we have been ceased to have any control over their use, application, or deployment. So a lot of fear mongering going on. I like that one. Yeah, it's Black Vulture. And by the way, long term, whatever he said is totally has to be true because that's the way this thing is set up to go. Even though we were promised no European army.

32:30 Well, we are, well, you and I have both documented many a moment when they're talking about European armies because of, well, you can't trust the United States, you know, NATO and all the rest. So they're already headed that way. And at some point it will be one unified European army and the Brits will be part of it if they remain, which they will. Well, here's a thought that I had. And it explains a few things that we've discussed previously. So the UK, they held a... actually I have the compilage of the referendum just here. All of the politicians, all the talking heads

33:15 From the beginning of this saying, oh, it's going to be a referendum. It's one referendum. We're not going to do a second one. It's whatever the people say. It's a go. There will be no second referendum. The second referendum argument simply doesn't hold water. No, I don't think we need a second referendum. I'm sorry, I'm not one of those people. who thinks we should be calling for a second referendum. A second referendum would be very unhelpful. There's no second vote. We will not be taking a decision like this again in our lifetime. This is a once in a generation vote. A once in a generation choice. The once in a lifetime decision. There won't be another referendum on Europe. This is it. If we as a country decide to quit, then we're out for good. There's no going back. You vote to leave, we're out.

34:09 That's it. We're going. Whatever the British people decide, we work together constructively to make that happen. I don't think it would be right for Parliament to try and unravel the decision that the public have made. The British Parliament should deliver what is required of that decision of the British people. We would have to accept the will of the public. whatever the result is we have to respect it. Labour accepts and respects the results of the referendum. Have we got to accept the result? Yes. And Parliament should respect that referendum result, we've said that all the way through. We respect the decision of the British people in that referendum. We respect the votes of the referendum and we have to accept the decision of the referendum and genuinely accept the result. The Labour Party accepts that we are leaving the European Union. Britain is leaving the EU. We're leaving the European Union. We're leaving the European Union. We're leaving the European Union. Britain is leaving the European Union. Yes, we're leaving the European Union. We are leaving the European Union Boris. We'll leave the EU in March 2019. We will leave the European Union on 29 March 2019.

35:12 So of course, March came and went, and the will of the people has not been done. It has not been executed. Everybody was clear. You heard it right there. One vote, that's it. In or out, win or take all, we're good to go. Your democracy in action. And Parliament, who represents the people, have not done this. That's because they don't want to do it. But there's something that really stands out like a sore thumb with that clipage. which is the new meme that keeps floating around. Well, when people voted to leave, they were voting to leave with a deal. No, yeah, that's what they're trying to weasel in. There's zero evidence of that. I don't remember it at the time. And now they keep saying, well, people voted to leave, but they voted to leave with, no, they didn't. They would just, what you said, that one guy just says something like, yeah, we vote leave, we're out.

36:10 Yeah, that's what they voted for. They voted to just get out. They didn't vote for a deal. No, they voted to get out. Now here's the difference between the United Kingdom, who have, as they themselves say, an unwritten constitution. The BBC repeats it. Everybody says unwritten constitution. And the United States has a constitution. In our preamble, we have an important part Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form as to them shall seem most likely to affect their safety and happiness.

36:56 This is why we have the First Amendment because you're allowed to stand up and say screw you we should take you guys down if that doesn't work And this is where we really differ because the unwritten Constitution of the United Kingdom lets you talk a big game. But if that doesn't work, we have the Second Amendment. And if this was happening in the United States, it wouldn't happen. The vote would be a vote and we'd be done and we'd be gone because the politicians would be afraid of the amount of guns pointing at them if they did not do the will of the people.

37:32 This is the exact reason why the threat has to be there. Because they're not going to go, you and I know it. They're never going to leave. And the European army, I'm sure, will take over the British army or whatever, you know, Dad's army. So this is your reason right here. So scoff all you want, Brits, with your knife crime, but just the threat of Americans having enough guns to take out every politician and form our new government makes them do what we want them to, ultimately. Except with vapes. I don't think it's quite such an issue as remaining in the European Union whether you can vape a flavor or not, but okay. They should be careful. Well, you're on a roll here with this. This is the second time and within I think two or three shows that you have gone on this the reason for the Second Amendment rant aimed mostly at the Brits. Because it's a perfect example.

38:34 Well, it is a very good example. I'm not going to argue it, but it's interesting that something has triggered this in you. And it has something to do with the Brits. Yes, because I live there. I know how the British people think and they are outraged. Even the ones that want to stay just can't believe what their representatives are doing. You know, what do they have? Tire irons, pitchforks, you know, vape sticks? What are they going to take to the street? What are they going to go to Westminster with? Nothing. Nothing at all. Well, luckily there's one guy, one guy who can always count on the common man of the British people to say it like it is, and that's Ringo Starr. The people voted and, you know, they have to get on with it. Suddenly it's like, oh, well, we don't like that vote.

39:30 And I'm, what do you mean you don't like that vote? You had the vote. This is what won. Let's get on with it. Would you have voted that way if you... I would have voted for Brexit, yeah. I would have voted to get out. But don't tell Bob Geldof. Why did you vote that way, Ringo? Well, because I think it's... I think it's a great move. I think, you know, to be in control of your own country is a good move. And I think a lot of the Brits think like Ringo. Ringo is the common man. Yeah. the common multimillionaire. To be in control of your own country is a good idea. Is that like his great thought for the day? It's just such a... Hello, what were you guys doing before this? Dude, the only song he wrote was When I'm 64. So give him a break, okay? He's already way over 64. He's not the master of prose. He's just... Oh, Octopus's Garden. Yeah, that was kind of good.

40:29 Yeah, so is it, am I triggered? Yeah, it's obvious that what is, you know, listen to what's going on. It's like every single politician, take away the guns, buy back. How's that working out for Australia? You know, it's no, no, and it's not, it should be mandatory. Every single politician on the Democrat side of the ledger. Yes. Well, let's be specific here. Well, they're the one, the number of Republicans that are all in with the Democrats on that issue is extremely, it's like a couple of people that shouldn't even be Republicans. Right. But that's the conversation right now. Oh yeah.

41:10 and you know and and it devolves into it should be for sport for hunting you don't need it if you need to take out 20 politicians you need a big magazine but let's not bullshit about it let's just this it's in the Constitution it says it right there this is why we have it and we like shooting stuff in general Like blowing stuff up. We've got a big country. We've got some space to blow stuff up. Yeah, you go out to the Arizona deserts and you can just shoot all you want. Nobody even hear the bullets, the sounds of the gun. So I think we can't have the same stupid conversation everyone else is having, you know. Comprehensive background checks.

41:57 We already have background checks. They're comprehensive! They're not comprehensive enough! That's probably, yes, they're not, maybe not comprehensive enough. Common sense gun laws! That's another one of my favorites. Common sense, man! It's common sense. You don't need that scary looking thing. Well, now you know why. Because if the Brits had guns, this would not be the situation. That's just the simplest way to explain it. Yeah, but it'd have to be a law. Yeah, you can't just give them guns now I mean the problem is we don't have if you're raised without with a good this

42:36 kind of suppressed notion about gun ownership and it's been there for hundreds of years and it's beaten into you. If you all of a sudden cut that loose and give everyone guns, they'd be shooting the place up, they'd be going nuts. Which would be entertaining. It would be great for the show. But so they're screwed. They're not getting out of this thing. They're stuck. Yeah, I don't see a friend of mine in London the other night over his house on Skype because he's doing is another writer and he's doing a story and I was asking him about what he thought about all this and he I said do you think is John's gonna get us out on the 31st or what it biggest 31st of October. No chance. No, no, no way. And the Brits will just go, Oh, good.

43:27 I can hear him. People just give up at a certain point and then forget about it. I don't know. Sad. Well, more importantly, in another sub-segment, so far as climate's concerned, you know, Greta was on the Democracy Now! show and there's a couple of items, two short clips. Greta Thunberg, the autistic climate change protester. Yeah, can you pronounce her name? Greta Thunberg? Thunberg. Thunberg. I think it's Thunberg. You want to hear how it's pronounced? I'd love to hear how it's pronounced, yes. Let's hear her tell us how to pronounce it.

44:16 How to pronounce Thunberg. Okay. So Greta, why don't we start at the beginning? There's a great controversy and it's how you pronounce your name. Can you say your full name for us? Greta Thunberg. Greta Thunberg. And that's the Swedish version. Thunberg. Okay, I got it. I can do it. I'm sorry I didn't do the accent. Okay, give it to us. Greta Thunberg. Let's compare. There's no G in there. Yes, she does. She swallows the G. Greta Thunberg! So Greta, why don't we start at the beginning? There's a great controversy and it's how you pronounce your name. Can you say your full name for us? Greta Thunberg. Greta Thunberg. Jamal Khashoggi. And that's the Swedish version. And as you come to the United States, people are calling you by different names. Can you tell us how you should have adapted? Sure. Sometimes it's

45:15 Thunberg, sometimes Thumburg. I mean, but I think it's funny that everyone pronounces it differently. So that is just, I don't mind anyone pronouncing it wrong. There's no wrong way to pronounce it. Everyone pronounces it in their own way. So say again how you were born, what your parents called you. Greta Thunberg. Wow, riveting stuff on Democracy Now! Did they get into any conversation about how she's been abused for the past five years by her parents?

45:51 and sent around the world. It turns out it doesn't even seem like her parents are really the base abusers because they were somewhat responsible. They do have this discussion. I didn't pick up any of the climate change. I just was trying to draw other things out of this interview. And this one is her on her, she became a depressive when she was eight. Because of climate change, because she started reading and nobody was guiding her. So instead of giving her any skeptical, you know... No, they probably were encouraging her. Oh yes, oh yeah, it's horrible. You're going to die. Yes, you're going to die. Trump. But it turns out that her parents weren't all in and she got depressed. But listen, this is her.

46:35 It's a long clip, it's two minutes, but it is fascinating because this poor girl at eight, at the age of eight, who has Asperger's and discusses it, Bill Gates has a very similar ailment. So it doesn't really hurt their ability to focus, that's for sure. In fact, it enhances it. And so she's a focused little girl and she went into a deep depression and it lasts over a year and this was, she's eight. It's really a disgusting, sad but in some ways disgusting story. You went through a crisis in that period after you were eight years old. Can you talk about what you went through? Yeah, it was...

47:17 After that I sort of caught up with reading about it and I understood. And that made me very depressed, of course. And when you are the only one who really reacts about this crisis and everyone else seems to just, okay, it's very important but I'm too busy with my life. And I just thought that it was very strange that no one else was behaving in a logical way. And so I... What would that logical way have been? To do something. To step out of your comfort zone and to realize that, okay, we cannot continue like we have done now. We need to do something drastically. And I'm going to do everything I can to

48:11 to help to push in the right direction. And but no one seemed to do that. My parents were just like continuing like before. My classmates, everyone of my relatives. I mean, no one was, no one seemed to care about these issues except me. And that was a strange feeling. And so you descended into a depression? Yes. It was, of course, caused by many reasons but that was I think the biggest reason to it because I just thought that everything is just so wrong and everything is so strange and everything is so sad and why isn't anyone doing anything about this and so then I fell into a depression and it lasted for maybe a year or something and then I... You stopped talking? Yeah, I stopped

49:16 leading the witness. I stopped talking because I have selective mutism or at least had they said it sometimes grows away that I only spoke to some people my teacher for instance my parents some members of my family and so on and I stopped eating almost entirely I only It was a big problem. I lost a lot of weight because I was just so depressed. Nothing seemed to matter anymore. Well, I'm actually glad they showed this and I hope parents watch this and got a clue.

49:56 Nobody watched it to get a clue. This is what can happen. I know it's audience goes, oh, that's that poor woman. I wish we'd do more about climate change. No, no, the poor, the poor child got depressed because of all the climate change talk. You say that? I'd say that. Yeah. But that's not the way anyone else is going to see it. Well, maybe there's a few people who listen to our podcast a few well, I our audience sees it. I hope so Again, it's just this out, you know, I don't want to say we're outliers But I mean the way they were playing it is this told this poor girl, you know She's client if we do something about climate change, she wouldn't have gotten depressed. That's the way I'm imagining them looking at it from that perspective. Yeah, so

50:49 Anyway, so she was on there doing her thing. She said she had selective mutism. That's cool. I believe we talked about that on the Scott Adams interview when he was having his problem with his voice. Oh, that's right. He had mutism too. But it was also selective. I don't recall the term though. Selective mutism. Well, he never used the term selective mutism. I never heard that term until she said it. But it was the same thing where you can talk. Scott could talk fine. He couldn't talk to anybody. He could talk to himself. He could talk to himself and I think there's maybe a couple people he could talk to, but he couldn't talk to anybody else. And that's what this would happen with her. She couldn't talk to anybody except certain people. I mean, I thought I could continue until deep in my 90s doing podcasting of what could really stop me, but what if I develop selective mutism? It's possible. That would be horrible. It happened to anybody.

51:44 Well, it depends on your perspective whether it be horrible or not. Well, it's not great as a podcaster. Yeah, probably. I'm guessing no. Although talking, apparently with selected mediums you can talk to nobody and from what I can tell most podcasts really talk to nobody so I think you'd still be relaxed enough to do it. Yeah, that's right. I have far fewer tics when doing the show all by myself because, you know, I'm talking to nobody. Talking to me. Oh, oh well there you go. Well that's selective mutism. I have the latest chant from the Extinction Rebellion crowd. They have a new, is it a new chant? I believe it is. There is no future on a dead planet. There is no future on a dead planet. Altogether. There is no future on a dead planet.

52:40 Oh, that's interesting because I was hearing it wrong. What did you think they were saying? I was hearing something something there's no two terms. I thought it was some anti-Trump thing. Oh my goodness! Well if you play it again and then listen for no two terms. Okay, let's try it. No, no, no two terms. No two terms. No two terms. No, I really, I can't, I could get a lie. Don't hear no two terms. No two terms. This ain't no future Yeah, but it's like this no to turn whoever Mike that chant needs to be arrested. Oh, it was just the iPhone video Yeah, swooping across a bunch of people. That's all it was. Oh, I went I did Maybe say that I could do that quickly. I went to the community first village here in Austin who?

53:32 are solving the unhoused problem in their own unique and incredibly successful way. Okay. A little update. First of all, the guy who started this, Alan Graham, has a podcast and I listened to a couple episodes. He started this, I think, about 11 years ago. And so he took me on a tour. It's south, it's past the airport a little bit. I think they have 250 people renting tiny homes, a variety of different types of dwellings, ranging from $275 a month to $500 a month. And at the 275, there's communal bathrooms and cooking, etc. At the 500, it's like almost like an RV pretty much. So you have everything on board and two people per house or per structure. But he took me on the tour and what was most interesting, I think, for the show is that the

54:29 concept for what they're doing, Community First, the Community First Village, is based on a book called Chasing... well not really the book, but on experiments that were detailed in chasing the scream. And I didn't... I think I recognized the title of the book, but then when he said the author is Johan Hari, then it hit me. I'm like, ah, of course, Johan Hari is the guy who wrote Connections. That we talked about extensively which is also you know part of that outgrowth is our meetups how important it is to have human face-to-face contact. I think we played a couple clips back back then and what Hari details in his book it was research from the 70s where they threw a rat into a cage with food water and cocaine and within 60 days the rat was coked out and died and

55:21 They same cage except they build a couple tunnels and had a few structures and they put more than one rat in there and after 60 days they were flourishing. There were baby rats coming. Now 5% of the coke had been used because the rats did like the coke but they were not dying. They were in fact they were flourishing. And so he used one example, he says if you're downtown and John over here walks out of his house in the morning without his pants on, his dick is hanging out, I'm using his words, then what you do downtown Austin is you call the cops and have him picked up and he goes through a whole process and it's not necessarily a positive thing, it may not have a positive outcome, but in the community first village he walks outside and his thing is hanging out and the neighbors will come over and say, hey man,

56:08 You know, you put your pants on. This is not okay. And you'll probably go, oh shoot, I put the pants on. And let's go talk to somebody and just make sure you're okay. And the, according to him, because we talked a lot about drugs, the number one reason people become homeless is loss of family, which I think you could also substitute for loss of community. And the success rate they have, and these are people who were referred by multiple organizations in Austin from the Arch, the First Step, Caritas. If you have Social Security, if you have disability that's typically enough to actually pay for your rent. You have to have some kind of sustainable income to pay your basic rent. And if you don't have a job, there's multiple jobs on site and they're now expanding to 500 more, more capacity for 500 more people.

56:59 So it'll be a total of you know about 700 people in this village where people are functioning They're going into Austin to work. They have a community. There's no trash people do drugs in their homes They don't do crazy stuff. They don't run around like nut jobs typically They have you know a car detailing service of course they got hand handicrafts etc and they do it all on six million dollars a year and That's all that this organization needs to keep running. They get nothing from the city, nothing from the state, they do it all themselves. And I don't know, I saw it working. It seems to be really, a really good program. And they had one of the first tiny homes that was 3D printed on premises, so I took a look at that. That was kind of cool. How does it look? It's, well, it looks like Play-Doh, you know, if you were to... Yeah, that's what it looks like when they're making it.

57:52 The thing is they're not cost-effective yet. So it's just too expensive. You know, they put a tiny house down from wood, boom, it's done. This you got to put down a big concrete slab and that's really expensive. You still have to put the roof on. There's no 3D printing the roof. But, you know, maybe that'll get cheap over time. But they're just building little tiny homes and it's working. How many places does he have? Right now for 250 people, so there's over a hundred homes, a hundred tiny homes, and phase two adds an additional 250 or 300 I think homes. Can they scale up to 40,000 people which is what we have over in the San Francisco area? No, I asked him about that and he said we're never gonna go, we're never gonna leave Austin and do anything outside of Austin but they do monthly symposia

58:48 seminars and they give the whole blueprint, exactly how you can replicate this and those symposia are full and people are trying to replicate this all over the world now, trying to create this kind of village. So it was very interesting to see a different take on what causes homelessness and how to solve it by providing community. And it's not... In fact, I got an email from some guy, you guys are full of shit, with your... you're complaining about them building houses, affordable housing, you know, this is all part of the housing first, that is the California theory that you're going on. It was invented in California and that's... it even has a wiki page.

59:38 Housing First is a relatively recent innovation, I don't want to say solution, but they'll call it innovation, in human service programs and social policy regarding treatment of people who are homeless and is an alternative to a system of emergency shelter transitional housing progressions. So their concept is, and this I think is what Austin is following, rather than moving homeless individuals through different levels of housing, whereby each level moves them closer to independent housing, Housing First moves the homeless individual or household immediately from the streets or homeless shelters into their own accommodation. But this just, it's proven, it just doesn't work. This is California's system, Housing First, and Austin is following that nicely, except for, you know, I guess Community First Village is probably taking up 15% of the homeless population. Maybe they'll get to 25 or 30.

1:00:36 But the Austin is spending tens of millions and they'll wind up you know this gonna spend eight million on a shelter You could fund the whole village for a year. Well, you sound like you should be the PR guy for this guy Well, it's a nonprofit. They need some help. Yeah. Well help them Yeah, well I'm going to mlf org mobile loaves and fishes and it is religious based although there was no pushing that I saw or witnessed which What religion are we talking about? I don't know. The whole thing is a ministry. So, I don't know. I didn't ask. I wasn't interested. I would have asked because there's always some tax angle. Well, it's a non-profit, so their tax angle is there. You know, they publish in 990, look at all that. They do about 800, 900 thousand a year in rent now from their residents.

1:01:34 And they're gonna have a whole medical center with 16 people full-time on staff. It's fantastic. Solutions are there, but you know it's not invented in city council. It's not what the Californians are doing, so it could never be right. Yeah, what we do is the best. You guys got it nailed. For sure. Tent City. Yeah. That's a community. It is, but you need to have community members who are not in exactly the same boat. But yes, this is why you see people congregate and create their own community, and their community sadly is a community of typically drugs. Yeah, they're shared needles. Yeah. So you need to understand the community aspect and put them in a better situation.

1:02:32 Well, this is your exit strategy. 3D printing homes for the homeless, everybody. I'm retired. See ya. Sayonara. I have a feeling that's not going to work. All right. Well, then maybe with that, since you didn't jump in with anything, I can at this point... Hold on a second. Let me... I'm kind of befuddled to jump in with anything here. We can take our break. I do want to pad a little bit with a jump in. Nah. This is going to the donations. With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage in saying the morning to you, the man who put the sea in community, John C. Dvorak!

1:03:18 Well in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry, also in the morning all ships and sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning to our trolls in our noagenderstream.com troll room where you're always there hanging out. How many trolls do we have here today? Let me have a quick look. Oh low count! 921. Did everyone retweet that we were live? That's where you can always listen to our show live many shows live in fact right before our show There's even Darren O did a great pre stream this morning. So No agenda stream comm is where you want to check that out and also in the morning to comic strip blogger who? Did a piece of artwork that was perhaps the most the simplest we've seen with such an enormous explosive laughter effect

1:04:08 This of course was the Melania Sharpie enhancement that we use for our album art on episode 1171 Yes, it was the again comic strip blogger came in with simplicity. Yes to win the day It's it was it was so simple because we had we had some pretty intricate pieces of art for 71 we had So you had some vaping stuff. Was there anything that we also... Did we look at anything else that we liked? Do you recall? Yeah, there was one piece that I thought was competitive. What was that? I'm looking at it now. Oh, Darren O'Neill had the Disciples. That was okay. I mean, it was really good. We both looked at it and just cracked up. And when you have an explosive laughter right off the bat,

1:05:09 It's gotta be the one now. Yeah, sure a lot better than explosive diarrhea we We did to have a slight conflict having the first lady as the artwork prominently showing her bosom and then calling the episode slutty vegan Yes, that was an issue I had that it was a consideration, but then we went ask screw it we might as well go for it I think people like it was we had to use the art and we had to use the title some reason yes There was no better title. That's for sure and thank you that piece really stood out

1:14:25 sealed indictments. No, I went to CNN. Oh my goodness. I will admit I've been watching more CNN these days than MSNBC. Is CNN still kind of pretends? MSNBC is just... How do they pretend that Erin Burnett... Well, I'm sure during the day... Erin Burnett is... She could be on MSNBC. She has so much hate. She makes stuff up. She doesn't just tell it, give us the news. She embellishes it with what the person's thinking and all this crazy stuff which is just so so above and beyond any sort of journalism. I have five clips. First of all, let's start with, and there are two, there's actually really three clips, because there's this one standalone clip and the other ones are related. But first of all, this got me right off the bat, which is this is her discussing the firing of John Bolton, and this is the clip called Blindsides Bolton.

1:15:26 Yeah, sorry. Hold on. Here we go front tonight. It was personal We are learning more this hour about the bitter breakup between Trump and border Source tells CNN that President Trump turned on his now former National Security He thought Bolton made him look bad this week Trump wanted to humiliate Bolton in exchange. Yeah, there's Bolton at the White House 844 a.m. This morning work as usual, taking a phone call outside. He then went in and led a meeting with top administration officials. And then boom, boom. The operative part of that tweet quote, I informed John Bolton last night that his services are no longer needed at the White House.

1:16:04 Well, that's not Bolton's version. Now, sources tell CNN Trump was livid. He seems to be the source for a story about how Bolton told Trump that hosting the Taliban at Camp David was a bad idea. Now, Trump, of course, was resoundingly slammed for that summit plan. He made it on a 9-11 anniversary. He felt Bolton was the one who made him look bad. Tonight, Bolton is fighting back. So the president says he's the one who fired Bolton and he did it last night. Bolton saying no way he resigned. Quote, I offered to resign last night. President Trump said, let's talk about it tomorrow. Trump wanted public embarrassment for Bolton. He let him come to work and take that call and be on camera. A press release came out saying Bolton was going to appear at a briefing with the secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, and Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin, who were also blindsided by Trump's move.

1:16:51 It was quite astounding to see the mainstream's defense of Bolton and to just micro focus on on five being fired. I mean, these people never been fired before. Well, here's the other thing. This is the report to the way she does it because she's making stuff up. She's talking about how somebody felt. You had to humiliate him. You don't know any sources. Sources told me sources sources. And then she says they were blindsided. And then they then they cut to a clip where a reporter asks us they were blindsided. And after

1:17:46 Burnett asserts that they were blindsided and then they asked if they're blindsided and neither one of them said they were blindsided. So this was a switchback. This is bull crap. They never said they were blindsided. They said, well, nothing surprises us. And then they cracked up and laughed about it thinking it was hilarious and that no one's, whoa, they were blindsided. They didn't look like, they were not irked blindsided people. Anyway, so let's go away. I do have this blind size Bolton clip to after. OK, this is the second part of this clip. So I guess an extra clip. Sorry. This is the follow up to after that we watch these guys laughing, falling, falling, they're falling and they're laughing and burn it comes back on and says,

1:18:33 listen to what her interpretation of this is. Should we maybe listen just to the end again of the question about being blindsided? Yeah, that's probably a good idea. Here we go. I'm never surprised. I don't mean that on just this issue. I think about what Trump thinks hearing that. I mean, look at their faces again. Yeah, decided to freeze it.

1:19:09 They get it. They work for a person whose sudden rage and focus on personal slights means that nothing is normal and nothing can surprise them. One source close to the administration telling CNN today after the president's, well, whatever word you'd like to use, resignation firing, it's a real snake pit run by an erratic president who is hard to manage and who brings out the worst sensibilities in people. This is sedition. I'm telling you, I mean, this is, that's what I was kind of surprised by. But it wasn't, that was just one example of what they're doing. Now here's another one. So CNN, this is CNN boosting Liz Warren crowd, or in this case, the clip is CNN boosting Liz Warren crowd size. This is another where they start obsessing over, I mean, they have Trump dead to rights on some of this stuff and they could easily,

1:20:01 They could use that against them but instead they go overboard and they make a big scene and then they embarrass themselves in a very peculiar way and I wanna see if I can ask you to try to find it but you probably won't be alert for it. But there's a moment in this two clip set that These people should be ashamed of themselves, but let's play CNN boosting Liz Warren crowd size. Elizabeth Warren getting ready to speak to a big crowd in Texas. You see that live there. It is a red state that she wants to put into play. And you know, when you look at all those people gathering, she's not yet on stage. It does bring to mind something interesting. Some of her crowds lately have even exceeded

1:20:42 Some of Trump's bragged about crowd sizes. So he's bragged about crowds recently and then she's pulled a crowd even bigger I'll find out Keith Boykin former Clinton White House aide and Scott Jennings former special assistant to President George W Bush So Keith, you know as we look at that crowd here, we'll put him back up there waiting for she's rising in the polls her crowd tonight wherever she is By far her crowds overall are the biggest in the Democratic field And as I point out rivaling Trump's in some cases, this is the sign you should be worried. Was it in this clip? Yeah, I would say I would say she's she's rising in the polls is what I heard her crowd size was the biggest in the Democratic field Bullshit, that's got to be Bernie Bernie's always been the biggest they won't mention his crowd size because they're they don't want Bernie Women don't talk about size John. Don't you know that?

1:21:37 So don't talk about size if it's Elizabeth Warren's size. But Bernie, the biggest crowd, and so she puts in this bogus meme that, oh, the biggest crowd size in the Democrat Party, she's getting there, rising in the polls. She is rising in the polls by one, two notches. She's not jumping up in the polls. But it's okay, she went up a point. But this really galled me because again, this is a poor reporting. You can't say that when they completely ignore Bernie's crowd sizes, which in many cases have always exceeded Trump's crowd sizes. That's why Trump never brings it up. In fact, did I not see Trump moved his North Carolina venue?

1:22:21 And I don't know what happened, but he was a lot less boasty about it and it seemed to be a much smaller venue than I expected when I watched some of his... just a little bit actually. Now, it did have the effect he wanted because the special election there, in both elections Republicans won. But yeah, in fact, I gotta tell you, I think Trump's rallies are, I mean, they're no longer really TV, interesting for TV, because he hasn't come up with any good new material. Yeah, his material's stale. It's very stale. Let's listen to the follow-up on the boosting Liz Warren crowd. CNN boosting Liz Warren crowd 2. Scott, these crowds are getting the attention of President Trump. They are, and they're irking him. Listen. I have crowds that are many times what her crowds are. Nobody ever talks about them. Nobody wants to talk about them. With her the other day, they say she had 15. If you really count them up, it looked like about 8 or 9. And the biggest story was her crowds. That's like a small crowd for me.

1:23:23 You know Scott when I hear something like that I want to laugh and then I realize this is the reality of the world we live in. Okay, is he underestimating her as a challenger or is actually his sort of obsession there as strange as that was proof that he is not underestimating her? Well, I think he probably watches more news coverage of this primary than any of the three of us sitting here. And so when he sees news coverage, it says somebody's getting big crowds. Obviously that perks up his ears. Look, I think they're going to run against her if she's the nominee the same way they run against any of them. You know, they're all basically coming out for the same kind of programming across economic, immigration, national security issues. And so I think they'll end up treating her

1:24:05 the exact same way and try to make it a real choice instead of a referendum on him. Do you want a more left-leaning socialist country or do you want more free market type of programming that I'm offering? Well, you strategist types may try to do that but he's going to be yelling about Pocahontas and crowds. Now the worst of the group is the last one. And this is about, she's got some guy on who's a pollster, or not a pollster, I guess he's a strategist pollster, I don't know. But he's talking about the approval ratings of the president, which are 49. They've always been pretty pretty dismal. Yeah, but the approval rating of the president is discussed in a way that I this is really has to be deconstructed and to see how bad CNN is and really

1:25:02 I have a question before we get into it. So we have the polls and then we have approval ratings which are either are they deduced from polls or it's a different type of poll? I mean it's all bullshit we know because Hillary was going to win 99% Well, it's a poll. But they always have approval and disapproval. It's a specific poll done by a specific operation on a specifically selected group of people. Okay, so it's manipulation. It's a little, well, it's not as much as you might imagine. It's probably fairly, I mean, it tends to lean left, so slightly wrong.

1:25:46 But let's go with this, let's listen to this. And because now all of a sudden there's some new angle to this. CNN approval rating generality number one. His approval rating is now at 39%, okay, which is the lowest for him in I believe nine months. Obama though was only at 43% at this point in the first term. Clinton was only at 44%. They both won. Now I know in the world of political polls you can say 39 versus 43 big difference, but you know it doesn't sound like a big difference. Does the does this low approval really matter? Well, yes and no. I don't think that the five-point spread between Obama and Trump is really statistically significant in terms of where Trump stands. What's more important is the larger trend and the fact that for the entirety of his administration he has never once been above 50% in the public opinion poll averages. That's never happened in modern polling before. We've never seen any president in modern history who's been so despised. Really? Well, hold on a second.

1:26:47 Don't say really to that. The point is, is that the approval rating does not, is not an indication of your despising somebody. It's a matter of you approving the job they're doing. It's like, what's the approval rating? It's not, you don't get a poll saying, do you, how many of you despise? Do you hate the president? Do you hate or despise? You despise Trump. Not like, find annoying, Despise and hate. Or should... Is despise higher than hate? I think so. We should do the hate poll. It's a deep hate. We should do the hate poll. And so the approval rating now has somehow become the despicable rating. And so if you get 30, so in other words, 39% of the public, the way they're couching this and they continue to do this as the follow up clip indicates, she'll use the word despise again to pound it home. So this was planned. There's no way you would put this in there unless you planned it. So this is just a propagandistic trick.

1:27:48 But so what they're saying is that only 39% of the public doesn't despise Trump. That's what they say. Yeah, that's great. Good job, everybody. Where does loathe fit in on the scale? I don't know. Loathe is, I think, is less than hate. But more than despise? It's kind of a simmering hate. I'm telling you, you need to do a Cosmic Weenie bit about this. There's a list in there. So despise is not, when you're talking about the approval rating of the president, it's got nothing to do with despising the president, even though I'm sure a few people that voted no, I don't approve of his job, do despise him. But that's not what the poll is, although they now made us think that because they slipped that in. And then later, on clip two here, as the two of them are still chatting,

1:28:47 Aaron had to throw the word in again, even though she's flubbed it, which is funny, which may indicate to me that it was something rehearsed or something they tried, because yes, when you flub. on a show like that. That's when we flub. It's a mental performance. Choke, choke, choke. She chokes. But she says it again to just to make sure that the public can now associate the approval rating of the president with despising the president. This is disgusting. It's in the wrong direction. It's an interesting point you make, right, Keith, that people, he won.

1:29:23 with a pretty despising set of numbers, right? So we want despising set of numbers. She choked. Gosh. I don't know what she was supposed to say, despicable set of numbers, but she said despising set of numbers. That's very odd. And she must have thought to herself that sounded stupid. That didn't sound too smart. Because it's stupid. Play that clip again so we can just see how stupid that really is. It's in the wrong direction. So it's an interesting point you make, right, Keith, that people, he won. with a pretty despising set of numbers, right? So we want. It's a pretty despising set of numbers. It's completely weird.

1:30:04 Well, it's a non-sequitur, it makes it just a senseless, whatever she's, who knows what she's talking about, but she had to for some reason get that word in again to make sure that we were, but she screwed it up. So the effectiveness was shot, shot to hell, but you could tell what they were up to. So I turned on CNN, I get this, and I'm thinking to myself, I only have these clips, I'm thinking to myself, this is a terrible network. Well I'm glad you caught that because I cannot watch Erin Burnett anymore. I used to really enjoy watching her on CNBC in the morning. She was kind of bubbly and she was not dumb. I did her show about 10 times.

1:30:46 Was she nice and when you met was it only we are long distance or no distance I wasn't in the studio with her and she was pleasant. She's very nice and it was she's quick She's quick with it very quick and she was and a great team with mark Who died as she left and the guy died like six months later her co-host mark was his name again? I don't know. Yeah It's hard for me to watch but the reason why she is not Uh, well, the reason why Bernie Sanders is just ignored is perhaps because he says stuff like this. Anybody here know how much Amazon paid in taxes last year? Nothing! I talk about that all of the time and then I wonder why the Washington Post, which is owned by Jeff Bezos, who owns Amazon, doesn't write particularly good articles about me. I don't know why.

1:31:37 So that would kind of explain you don't get in WAPO, you get bad press in WAPO, you're not going to do very well on CNN. On the NY, the New York Times put a woman who is a Bernie Sanders hater On him and she writes all that Bernie Sanders material. I had her name. I don't remember it If you look at the New York Times Bernie Sanders article you see this woman over and over again Not all of them, but most of them and she and she is just a pitbull I mean she is hates Bernie Sanders and she makes it clear in the articles that Bernie's no good and

1:32:13 And so Bernie's got the New York Times is against, I mean, the New York Times is against both Bernie and Trump, but you know, it's a little more sinister that they're against Bernie so much. But they're against Bernie, they're against, and so is the Walpoe, and so is CNN. Okay, so a couple things. They've got to be for Liz because Liz is now tight with Hills. And that's important. When Hills is close to somebody, they pay attention. They've been talking behind the scenes. We don't know exactly what's going on, but it's interesting. And if Hillary Clinton is on the side of one candidate, that's going to be an anointed one. So that's

1:32:51 One of the main reasons she has a lot of money the New York Times finally printed something earlier this week about all the money she raised from Big big donors and lobbyists and corporations before she went on the I'm not gonna take any money trip She's using money from her 2018 campaign which was left over from her senatorial campaign, ten million dollars from there. So she's got money, there's money to spend, there's PACs, so they know what side their bread is buttered on. But there's so much, I mean you heard Bernie Sanders sounding like Donald Trump.

1:33:33 It's in fact it's almost verbatim a line from Trump. I talk crap about Amazon and then I get bad articles in the Washington Post. Well how can that be? And this came up on a podcast Matt tie bees podcast I'd like Maddie does a lot of outstanding work and he had a couple of people on and they they kind of came to a no agenda s Conclusion which seems to only happen when you do a podcast and not when you do something on mainstream when they when they get up there And they say oh, you know who owns the newspaper doesn't have any impact on our coverage or you know who advertises in our channel doesn't have any impact on how we cover things and Everybody knows that's bullshit right look I've worked for news organizations that and have come up against the problem of criticizing an advertiser before it comes up and and and all and beyond that it on an unconscious level it

1:34:21 That's where it works is that works at the point of hire, you know that if you start being a jerk about certain things You're not gonna get promoted in this company. That's what I'm tired in the first place, right? It's not all over and that's why people like Jennifer Rubin and Max boot rise to the op-ed page and you know and the Glenn Kessler's the world will do fine the point is denying all this and Just completely undermines the credibility of the press with huge swaths of the public, left and right. Wow, wow Matt, you sound like Trump. And the same people who are making this point are like people who just accuse the press of being biased against Hillary Clinton. Oh, right. Yeah, you know. I mean, it's all in the eye of the beholder, right? I mean, like bias exists everywhere and it's just a question of like how upfront you are about it. It's the denying it that makes it difficult.

1:35:13 Man that woman needs a voice coach. I think Matt could do with a little work too But here's the big news this is groundbreaking This is some big-ass news after five years running a national public radio NPR my former boss Jarl Mohn formerly known as Lee Masters on WMMR But he went when he restarted he was the CEO of NPR I met him during that time. I gave him some ideas which he never followed up on Remember I did that conference in New York and we chatted for a bit and yeah, you're getting nowhere now I get nowhere well it and he also had a open-heart surgery a year and a half ago and he only he promised to do five years and he would get everything set up for the next person to come in and take over and it has happened and

1:36:07 and we have a new CEO of NPR and I think they made an outstanding choice If you want to propagandize the American people. NPR has a new CEO. His name is John Lansing, a veteran media executive who has experience in cable TV and public service media. He's taking over for Yarlmoan, who is stepping down after fulfilling his five-year term. NPR media correspondent David Fulkenflik is reporting on this. Hi, David. Hey, Ari. Tell us about who John Lansing is. John Lansing started out as a young man, a teenager, as a photojournalist, worked in TV newsrooms, rose ultimately to be the head of a

1:36:50 of local television stations for the Scripps Company and then headed their basket of cable channels, which included the Food Network, HGTV and a couple of others. He's more recently since 2015 was appointed by President Obama to be the head of what is now called the US Agency for Global Media. It oversees international broadcasters like the Voice of America, Radio Liberty, Radio Free Europe and others that reach hundreds of millions of people each month broadcast abroad, but not here Offering people both news and also programming offering people propaganda Voice of America and Radio Free Europe is propaganda against the Russians It's propaganda all over the world and this guy's been running it and now he's gonna run your national public radio Smith Munt anybody

1:37:42 I mean, come on. Well, first of all, I mean, I think it's funny that you brought this up and you're totally correct, but it's not going to change anything. Oh, really? How do you know? They're already a propaganda arm of the Democrat Party. I mean, what's going to change? Is it going to be worse? Yes. How can it be any worse? Oh, they can do so much better. There's not enough loathing, there's not enough... There's more than enough loathing. Good propaganda works by being less overt like they are currently. So maybe it'll back it off a little bit. Well, let's listen to the rest of this. A soft form of diplomacy. What has defined his tenure over the last four years at the US Agency for Global Media? Well, it's been renowned.

1:38:31 We have to remember they're talking about their new boss, so they're all nervous. What is he? His tenure over the last four years at the US Agency for Global Media. Well, it's been renowned. A decade ago or so, I did a lot of reports on how dysfunctional that agency was and it was over a series of administrations. He's brought real order to it as its first CEO installing a clear line of command, a clarity of the direction philosophically, a greater degree of insulation from sort of political infighting on the board. After all, the board is appointed by the government. and and there is some sense of at times partisan efforts to pressure uh... these

1:39:11 journalists that are protected by statute. But he's also been a champion for the idea of a free press abroad, the importance of it in companies, excuse me, in countries that want to have emerging democracies. And it's been a message that he's been resilient about. And it's been a message that's resonated here at home as well as journalists. And the idea of a free press unfettered has at times come under attack from the highest office in the land. And mind you, they've had what, 11 CEOs in the past 10 years? Remember that before Yarle came in, it wasn't the guy from Sesame Street? Yeah, something like that. He lasted nine months. It's not easy to run that place because they're libtards. And I said it. You said it.

1:40:02 I said it. So this Lansing guy and if you look at his background the way they described it, he has to be a spook. Of course he's a spook. And what makes it even more clear that to me that he's a spook, he doesn't have a wiki page entry. Oh my goodness, how can that be possible? In fact when you go to the NPR, I went, look I tried to find it, first I couldn't find it, so then I went to the NPR wiki page and there he is listed as a key people, John Lansing CEO, and it's lit up like there's a link. But the link is to John 10 Ike Lansing Jr., some dead 19th century or 18th century lawyer. But that's not him. And there's no other John Lansing that I can find. So I mean this is a, I'm just guessing.

1:40:57 A spook. Yeah, I think you spotted him. So now if you want to get your CIA news, you don't have to go to CBS anymore because they're having trouble with their anchor and they don't want to deal with that. So you're just going to see the best, your best place to push the CIA messages right out of NPR. Perfect. I like it. So very creative. That was a good move, CIA. Yeah, it's an improvement over that ex-MTV guy. I mean, they kept it to three letter acronyms, but they had to move up in the alphabet. They go from M's to the C's. There is a, on the house.gov website, there is a bio. It's not really a wiki bio, but it's a bio. And it's kind of what they said on NPR. Same thing. It's not much else. But yeah, I mean, he must be a... It doesn't even talk about his education. Where'd he go to school?

1:41:55 Yeah, probably went to Georgetown or American University or or Johns Hopkins One of those good ones for sure for sure Rhodes scholar there was a Big meeting at Jackson Hole the Jackson Hole meeting where all the central bankers get together This is a party you and I will never be invited to I'm pretty sure and and there was a lot of surprising talk

1:42:31 This is a meeting by the way, I asked about, we talked about this on the DHM Plug Show. And I was curious, was this like the Allen & Company meeting? What kind of a meeting is this? This was actually put on by the Fed. Yeah, it's the central bankers meeting. It's the Fed's party, I think is the way it's coined. So the Fed's party, they have all the central bankers come in and the director or whatever his exact title is of the Bank of England Mark Carney, who I think is actually Canadian, he dropped a bomb. He had this speech, the luncheon speech, which is an important one because everyone's going to be there and they're all chatting. And all of a sudden he starts coming out with, well, you know, the financial system has clearly got to change because it's not going so well. And maybe we should consider some kind of cryptocurrency. And this shook up a lot of people.

1:43:26 not us, you know, I only heard about it days after, like, oh that's interesting. But when you think about it, to have this guy from the Bank of England to the Federal Reserve's party and say, well, you know, the central banking, I don't know, we got to change it, we haven't done so well, the transcript is available, I put it in the show notes, it's quite interesting. Quotes such as, there will be a change in our unsustainable monetary system. So when you're sitting around with a bunch of central bankers, you know, you can imagine a lot of spit takes going on. Yeah, people like what the hell is he talking about? And Mark Carney was questioned by a member of Parliament Steve Baker in the UK.

1:44:10 And I pulled three clips from that. I found the most interesting and I think that it kind of gives you an insight as to what he meant. And we'll start with the there will be change in this unsustainable monetary system. Given the things that you've said here, do you think it's possible to avoid a long-term fundamental structural change in the monetary regime? I think that there will be a change. Now, measured over decades, it's very hard to predict exactly. That which is unsustainable tends to go on for longer than you think and then happen more quickly than you expect, to paraphrase Rudy Dornbusch.

1:44:52 But I think that these structural flaws in the end in the system will ultimately result in a change. And the rise of China, the relative rise of China, will also result in a change through these two forces. And the question I'm trying to raise is do we get ahead of that change or do we help manage that change and affect some sort of rebalancing of the system? And to be absolutely clear, when I say we, I'm talking not about You know, the I've been talking about the central banks, the public side, as opposed to the private side coming up with an entirely different decentralized system. So this is partly where we may part company at that point on the issue of the solution. I'm only in favor of choice. Yeah, exactly. In favor of choice. But just to be clear. So he's talking about a decentralized system which

1:45:46 is not what the Federal Reserve wants, as we've mentioned before. Almost every transaction hits the New York Fed one way or the other, and that's how we can shut down countries like Iran, etc. This is quite a powerful tool. And here's this guy just saying, oh no, it's clearly his stuff is wrong. We've got to decentralize it. And so when you say decentralize, my ears prick up. I'm like, oh, all right, let's use Bitcoin. No, well, no such luck. But he has some thoughts. One of the issues which is linked back to the speech is whether or not there are going to be central bank digital currencies.

1:46:23 in order for there to be instantaneous, costless payments domestically and potentially cross-border, which would be to the benefit of citizens and businesses, and particularly small and medium-sized businesses, but all businesses. And the question is whether if that, could that happen? And the answer is yes, it could happen. In fact, Mr. Haldane is helping to lead our efforts in thinking about how the various ways, and there's more than one way you could do it, and various avenues to do it. But the question is, if you do have that happen, does it make sense to do it on a coordinated fashion with some of the core central banks, which

1:47:07 brings benefits in and of itself from a cross-border perspective, but happens to be a component of a more seamless rebalancing of how transactions are priced. So a lot of big words to say, well, you know, people are actually doing this very thing you're asking me about with Bitcoin today. So yeah, I think we could probably come up with some kind of digital crypto thing that would work. And we probably have to do that because they have to compete. And this got so out of hand that the French finance minister was asked a question about, well, and of course when you think about this now, this is being said, like, well we need to change the financial system, we need to decentralize, we need to have some form of digital currency, and of course

1:47:55 That's what Facebook is trying to do with Libra. They're taking a basket of currencies, China, US, Europe, etc., and they're using that as a quote-unquote stable coin to be able to manipulate the price of it, obviously, and just using the digital properties of it for being able to do transactions. And I think that's why they were ready for this to happen and the French finance minister Bruno Le Maire is having none of it. I want to be very clear. I fully share the concerns expressed by Steven Mnuchin about the Libra.

1:48:34 We do not want any private company to have the possibility to create a sovereign currency. We have sovereign currencies, dollar, euro and other sovereign currencies which are obliged to fulfill some commitments and some requirements. So we cannot accept to have any exchange currencies being with the same kind of power and the same kind of all as the sovereign currency. So I think that there is a need for regulation. There is a need for very strong commitments and obligations for that project. And for the time being, I think that the necessary requirements are not fulfilled by the project Nibar. And it's not going to happen because there is a plan in place.

1:49:26 And this Member of Parliament Steve Baker, who was asking the questions, really goes, we're going back to Mark Carney now, the President of the Bank of England. He starts to insinuate how this is going to work, and I think I know what it is. Let's listen to the question and answer first. So I think if I were to sort of pick up what to me is the highlight of what we've heard, you explained in the long term, I think I should emphasize to those watching this in the long term, that we've got a system which is unsustainable and cannot go on. It will go on longer than anyone expects and then we'll change faster than anyone expects. It feels to me like that in such a moment of change globally we'll need leadership from a global institution, Dr. Haldane, won't we? What kind of institution might provide such global leadership on monetary reform in such circumstances? Where should we look for leadership?

1:50:16 to move this conversation forward for the whole world? Well, I mean there are a number of international financial institutions who are charged with thinking about just these questions and you know their names. Some of them are also through that acronym. But I hope within that, and Mark is very much in the forefront of our efforts as an institution to put ideas on the table for reforming all of these things. London and the UK still is home to one of, if not the world's biggest global financial centre. We have over the years as an institution given huge amounts of thought to redesign of the international monetary system.

1:51:00 and I hope we can continue very much in that vein. So, we, I hope, would be among others in helping to lead the charge. So, can I save you? Because I'm very confident you will be amongst those, but I'm also confident that the IMF will be amongst them. And I'm not promising I won't press you too far on this, but the journalists watching will know where I'm coming from and will have looked at my Twitter feed. I feel confident and will now. Do you think that the IMF should be led by a politician or do you think it should be led by somebody who really understands these issues in detail and can articulate what should be done in order to address these kind of root causes? Is that a question for me Mr Baker? I think I've made my point for those watching but I wish you well.

1:51:46 When I heard that, I was like, oh wait a minute. So he's saying, really do you think that who should be running the International Monetary Fund? Who should really be in charge? Should it be a politician or someone who knows what's going on? Now we know that Fifi Lagarde just left the International Monetary Fund to become the president of the European Central Bank. Now I'm not schooled in monetary systems. I'm going to go out on a limb and jump in wherever you think appropriate. The central banking system is in trouble and that's why we see negative interest rates because there's just the Simplified I think the the way you create more money in our current system globally pretty much is with debt and we're out of it There's just no more debt to be created at least you know, we're stretching it very very thin So we need to create new money enter Fifi Lagarde before leaving

1:52:48 She promised to paint the European Central Bank, her new place of work, green. And what she means by that... is the green bonds that are being structured and or created right now at the International Monetary Fund backed by SDRs, the special drawing rights. And we've been talking about this for the entire length of the show, I think 10 years at least. The SDRs are based on a basket of currencies sound familiar with the US dollar the Chinese wampum we've got the the euro in there and a couple more and They're going to create this money It'll be represented as a bond now. It could be a digital bond and

1:53:40 And there is now already an announcement been made that under the European Central Bank, the Eurosystems Asset Purchase Program, they will be buying these green bonds. Now, this is where it gets a little fuzzy for me, but I think that is the next bubble they're going to inflate is all of this money that's going to be created. And we have to buy them because if we don't, The earth will die and we will die with it. I think that's the messaging we're going to see is here's this bond. It's a green bond. They're calling it the green bond and we need to buy these because otherwise the earth will just be destroyed from climate change. And that's how they're going to create trillions of new money. Well, I don't know if that's anything close to what's happening, but the green bond idea is interesting to me because they

1:54:39 They have all these obligations to pay all these other countries. I mean, we've supposedly the Paris Accords, all these climate deals that Trump refuses to sign on to are largely just scams to get get our money shipped to a bunch of little islands and people that need, you know, that want free money. And we've already been pretty good at giving, and it's possible that this debt, they're not creating new money, they're creating new debt. Which creates new money. It's the same, different side of the same coin. It increases the money supply. Yes.

1:55:18 That's what it does. There's no new money. It increases the money supply. Yes, correct. So there's a bunch of money flying around that you can use and the new monetary people are... The whole thing is becoming nuts. It needs a reset. But I don't like it. I don't like Ligard going over there and creating these green bonds. Well, the green bonds are from the IMF and she's going over there saying she's gonna buy them from where she used to work at the IMF. I mean, hello? Oh, well that could be, yeah. That's a good little switcheroo. But the green bonds are bogus. But they're happening. I mean, it's a loan for what? I mean, a bond is a loan. It's like you're getting money from, instead of from a bank, you're getting it from the public or the governments. Right. And so I'm Apple and I've decided to float some bonds to get some more

1:56:13 working income, because I don't know why. Apple doesn't need it, but let's just say they do it. So they get some bonds out there and people buy up the bonds, so they get a bunch of money, but they of course have to pay that back over time with interest. And if it goes beneath the interest rate, then they, actually, it works the other way. The value goes up. Well, if it goes below, the interest rate goes below zero, then the money is actually extracted in a reverse form so the banks get more and more money. Because they're holding the bonds. And so the bonds are, well, they sold the bonds. They sold the bonds. My head's exploding. I can't do it. It's ridiculous. But this, what they're talking about is right now the system is in a borderline collapse mode. Yes, yes, that's what it sounds like.

1:57:07 And it could collapse and if it does, it'll be, I don't know what to tell you. I don't know what's gonna happen. It's a mystery. It'll be a party! It's a mystery, yeah. Well, these are no small statements that these guys are making. Well, they're freaked out. They don't know what to do. They're already screwed up. I think that's the message that needs to be communicated. They're freaked out because they screwed up and they don't know what to do. And it seems like everyone's trying to come up with something. It's not self-correcting. It's actually going the wrong way with this negative interest rate thing. That's not the way that anybody wants to see that. It's only getting better.

1:57:46 It's negative interest rates are just doing better and better every day. Well, they haven't gotten to us yet. So we're hanging in there. The United States is above it. That's why we attract so much money. So it keeps everything propped up. Didn't we have a clip on the last show that someone said, yeah, I could come here pretty soon? Yeah, they've been saying that for a while, but it hasn't yet. Right. But it actually happened in your is happening in European countries. So it can happen. But anyway, I remain a Bitcoin maximalist. I think that's still the safest way to go for my $10 a week.

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2:11:34 Hmm you think you said telling me Tim who's now no no no Tim. Who do you say Tim? Whoo the book is by Tim whoo yeah? Why wouldn't he send us the book because the note says hi Adam? Here is a book you will enjoy John is looking forward to reading his copy Centralization and new media felt very na bought my copy on impulse in 2011 at a local borders liquidation poetic But Tim Wu, isn't he the guy who is credited with coining the phrase and term and the concept of net neutrality? Not that I know of. Yeah, I think he's the guy. I think he's the one that coined the term. So I can hate read this now. Let's see. Tim Wu, I think that's the guy. Net neutrality. Let me see. Yeah, he's the guy.

2:12:27 Yeah, he's the guy. He came up with that. Okay, so I'll hate read that. Thank you very much. And we have a couple things to take care of. We got some karmas, so we got some new human resource karma, we got some job karma, and we got some... what else? some other karma. Let's do all that right now after I remind you that you can also be mentioned if you support the show. You can do it for this coming Sunday show. All you do is visit this very easy to remember website. jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs. You've got karma.

2:13:18 Well today is the 12th of September 2019 we do have a list of birthdays first a belated birthday to Joel Tucker who celebrated on the 9th Stanley Jones also belated birthday for his September 9th celebration Lawrence the Brown says happy birthday to his dad Buster Brown celebrating today sir Bob of high points as happy birthday to his brother sir Andrew and Julia says happy birthday to her dad David Noose and he celebrates on the 14th. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.

2:13:56 No gender meetups! It's like a party! It's like a party! So I have a list of course of some meetups for you, but first a recap of the Orlando meetup. It was not great. Says Dame Meowdeson. Adam, I wanted to provide a recap of the Orlando meetup from tonight. Sadly, the organizer was a no-show, and texts or calls from myself and other attendees went unanswered. On top of that, the venue was locked! So the five of us, plus one extra friend, had to make our own plans. We went to a brewery down the street, ate some food, had some drinks for a few hours, and it was a generally nice time. My boyfriend and I printed your heads for sticks, but we forgot them. Lots of fails for this meetup, but we will definitely be trying again. Some good news is that we learned the That's True Ladies live in Central Florida area, and we're hoping they host a seminar so some of us can stop by.

2:14:56 All in all, it was an enjoyable low-key night and we will make another attempt at an area meetup. The Dame Meowdeson." And I'm sorry to hear that. We try to avoid these things, but you know, it's completely volunteer. And it typically does work out very well. You can go to noagendameetups.com. You can find out what's near you and if there isn't one you can create one yourself. But if you're gonna do it, you should probably show up. And for the 14th coming up this week, we have Pittsburgh PA and the El Paso Las Cruces meetup on the 19th Toronto, the 20th Southeast Louisiana, Nelson British Columbia, Southeast London and Wilsonville Oregon. Four in one day.

2:15:35 On the 21st, Eastern North Carolina, Minneapolis and Boulder Creek. If you're in Arlington, Virginia, we gave you a shout out earlier, September 22nd is your date to hang out. The 26th, Las Vegas and Luxembourg. There's only 30,000 people who live in Luxembourg. I can't wait to find out how many will be at the meetup. 27th of September, San Antone in Texas. The 28th, Victoria, BC. Also in Copenhagen and Havre de Grasse, Maryland. That's where you will be able to hang out with people, get some in-person close-up connection with people who don't get triggered and people you probably would never know were listeners of the No Agenda show. Moreover, they're all producers. So we'll hopefully have more reports and more meetups on the next show and right now we've got...

2:16:27 Sir Otaku, the Baron of Northeast Texas and the Red River Valley has upped his status once again with another thousand dollars in total donations to become the Earl of Northeast Texas and the Red River Valley. We congratulate him on his new title and you can always go to uh... uh... uh... itm.im slash peerage to find out exactly where everyone standing is and in the event of calamity who was in charge of what region of the world. That's what our knights and dames and uh... and titles above that do. Our barons for sure. They have protectorates and they are the people to talk to when uh... the shit hits the fan.

2:17:12 Thank you again for everything and supporting the no agenda show no nights or no dames today. Just one title change That's odd. Yeah, well it happens All right, so where were we? mmm, well I've go uh yes something I'm following up on something we talked about and I Something I couldn't find so I did want to circle back to that. We'll start off with another obsession of the M5M mainstream certainly in the United States and just for To mix it up. I figured I'd bring in Jimmy Kimmel to tell us the day's news Instead of meeting with the Taliban yesterday Trump spent the day lashing out at John Legend and Chrissy Teigen for real leaves Apparently he's watching a town hall last night

2:18:08 probably waiting to hear his name mentioned. He was upset that John Legend didn't give him a shout out for the bipartisan criminal justice reform bill that he signed. So he got out his thumbs and he wrote, guys like boring musician John Legend and his filthy mouth wife, who wasn't even there by the way, are talking about how great it is but I didn't see them around when we needed help getting it passed. His filthy mouth what? What is what? We can't have all these filthy mouth women around with the Taliban is coming over guys Trump hates women who talk dirty unless they're spanking him with a Forbes magazine So Chrissy Teigen responded to this she wrote

2:18:51 LOL what a p***y ass b****. Etc. And for that she got more than 500,000 likes. She's almost 10 times as many likes as he got for his tweet about her which I think means she's our new president right? What I found interesting, they bleeped the pussy part. So what she was tweeting over and over again, it was a hashtag, is pussy ass bitch president. Why would they bleep the pussy and leave the ass bitch in? That makes no sense. It's kind of weird, isn't it?

2:19:31 Yeah, cuz they say grab him by the pussy. Yeah, that's I don't know why Constantly, you know grab him by the pussy gram by the pussy, but now they bleep it Yeah, so pussy ass bitch became a trending topic and it was just like it really this is all that we can obsess over and that gave me reason to go back and find the fine John legend clip from NPR where he claims that really the only people who are creative are are Democrats. They should have the right to get married, just like we do. We deal with people of all colors and all races and we travel to different countries all the time to perform. So we're going to have a more global view and a more inclusive view. It's almost by nature and by circumstance of the things that we do.

2:20:30 So if America doesn't want to consume the art of people who are liberal-minded, there's not going to be a lot of art for them to consume. It's as simple as that. Because the best artists, most of them are liberal. Sorry. There are some country artists that I know that are conservative. I have a lot of country artists that are friends. And believe me, some of them are liberal. But they don't make a big deal out of it because they know it'll alienate their base. I'm telling you, Most creative people are liberal just so you know and they say things like pussy-ass bitch It's pretty liberal it's very creative very creative very very liberal very creative liberal Yes, John legend Now this next clip was one of the few times they tried to create some good news and

2:21:24 The mainstream, let's put some good news out there. I don't think you saw this video because as you'll hear in this clip, they say it went viral but their numbers are odd. This was the two kids, two little boys, black boy and a white boy, and they see each other on the sidewalk and they run towards each other and they hug each other. Did you see this video out there in the wild by any chance? You probably didn't, did you? I think I did. Right, so, oh, so cute. So cute, but the reason I play this clip is a because they're they're trying to make it go viral and be I just couldn't resist listening to this guy with up with y'all 26 month old Maxwell and 27 month old Finnegan pure joy at the sight of one another Running to give each other a hug much bigger than their size the innocence of it all is exactly why it's going viral they just

2:22:19 to He's not only one to post a lot of private things on Facebook, but explains why he decided to in this case. That last check, it's gotten over 300 shares and 6,500 views. Woo! That's viral! The comments are mostly positive, but there are some naysayers. Definitely not staged. It was just a lucky moment and I got it on camera and now with all the attention that it's getting, it's just going to be a great story to tell him when he's older. The Pint Size best friends have known each other for over a year now. It's a special relationship and their parents are good friends as well.

2:23:19 Where's Finnegan? There's not anyone else that comes close to Finnegan status in Maxwell's eyes. It's great to spread the love and to show people that kind of love and beauty in the world. Yes, thank you very much. 650 people saw the love and beauty in the world. I didn't even think about it because I did see this. I just went on. I can visualize you. Yeah, but now that he mentioned it, now I'm convinced it's staged. Of course. If he didn't say it, it's like the tell, right? Yeah. I didn't stage it. No, it wasn't staged. But I'm thinking about it.

2:24:02 Totally staged. You can talk two kids into doing this and you get the camera ready because for one thing you can't if the kids are running and they're gonna go hug and they just you can't get your camera out in time and you're not gonna make this it's just it's not gonna happen it's just bullcrap so he staged it so he's okay kids on the count of three run to each other and give each other the biggest hug you can and they probably did okay let's do a safety I mean probably did a couple shots. Hey kids that was great let's do one more for safety It's for safety How much I hated that that was great great segment Adam perfect. Let's do one more for safety You liked it or you didn't like it. Yeah, what's this safety bullcrap? So they Staged it was obviously staged because these kids see each other all the time. Why what's all is what's the deal? You know now they're hugging each other. So what yeah, I

2:24:57 Yeah, it was staged. Great. Thanks, pal. Polluting the viral video arena with staged crap. Of course, nobody does that. Never. Why would we do that? There was a thing, I think it was in Buzzfeed, one of the top five viral videos that were staged. Oh yes. So I went through them and there was a couple in there that I remember seeing and I had no idea they were staged. Do you remember which one? Yeah, I remember the one, you probably saw it. It's some, I think it's a black girl, but it's some girl, just slightly overweight.

2:25:35 slightly chubby and he's just to add to the thing and she's gonna she's dancing on the camera and then she's gonna do us she's gonna stand on her hands or something against the door and then somebody opens the door and she falls backwards into a table of candles yes yes that was that's the place on fire that was staged it's totally staged huh good one Yeah, that's what I thought. I was impressed. And I'm thinking, wow, you could fool me with a stage. And there's a number, all of them were like, oh, I can see being fooled. I mean, a lot of them were the ones that we've all seen and we know were staged, like the eagle coming down and grabbing the baby on the golf course. I think that was not, that was edited. That wasn't staged. That was a deep fake. It was a fake though. Fake, fake, fake. But yeah. A couple of OTG items.

2:26:28 OTG, OTG, off the grid baby, OTG. Yes, well you probably saw that, well I saw it, and what a waste of time, the Apple special event where, you know, it's a big camera! Thanks, that's great. But they're also, they announced iOS 13 and we also have Android 10 coming up. And Facebook is very worried about this. Paul McDonald, the engineering director, has posted a blog post. It starts off like this. Facebook is better with location.

2:27:11 It powers features like check-ins and makes planning events easier. It helps improve ads and keeps you and the Facebook community safe. How does it keep you safe? It keeps you safe. Just shut up and don't question the bag, man. Features like Find Wi-Fi and Nearby Friends use precise location even when you're not using the app to make sure that alerts and tools are accurate and personalized for you. Your Android or iOS location settings allow you to control when you share your device's precise location with apps like Facebook. That's why we're letting you know that Android and iOS have released new versions of their operating systems, which include updates to how you can view and manage your location.

2:28:00 The newest version of Android gives people more visibility into and control over when apps can access the device's precise location. The new version of iOS called iOS 13 will send people reminders about which apps can access their precise location information when they're not using the app and how many times each app has accessed it. So I'll skip forward a little bit. If you decide to update, you'll have the option to allow individual apps to access your precise location either while you're using the app or when you're not. We understand this may be confusing if you're already using Facebook's background location setting. This update may cause a few instances where Android and Facebook location settings will be out of sync.

2:28:45 Long story short, they're doing everything they can to tell you that you should not be worried when you see your phone telling you that Facebook is tracking your precise location. And this comes back to what we've always said, location is everything. The location of where you are tells you so much about a person. Where are you? I'm at the doctor's office. Bing! We know that. Where am I? I'm at the bank. Bing! Where are you? I'm in an office. Oh, probably your office. Bing! Without telling anybody without posting without even speaking you are telling these companies exactly What you're doing and what your life is about and you need to delete these apps from your phone because now they can easily Access well, they can continue to easily access your location. Although not entirely precise even when you're not using the app Delete this crap off of your phones

2:29:38 And for the Credit Karma users amongst us and other credit score based apps, we've looked at the data points and now adding into your credit score which is turning slowly into a social credit score. In addition to your pay and this is now being proposed as law that all of these companies will need to report this and act upon it Not just your your utilities ie. Do you pay your? Your utility bills on time, which is now being added to your social credit score, but also Which magazine subscriptions you have?

2:30:20 And Goldman Sachs, Ally Financial, Discovery Financial Services are all now incorporating the information on magazine subscriptions, which I believe the post office is probably helping them with since whenever you move, and I've moved a couple times, four times in Austin, five times in Austin alone, they always try to sell you magazine subscriptions. So I'm pretty sure that the post office the US Postal Service is somehow involved in getting this information I don't I don't think they know I really disagree with that. It's too much work the The data there's databases out there that you can purchase that will get you all this information easy enough. It's already there Okay, stop is not gonna give you anything. Okay, so it's out there, but then but they're now incorporating it so if you subscribe to garden

2:31:14 violation of my privacy for people to know all my magazine subscriptions. This is like what web pages am I browsing? It's very similar and so if you subscribe to Gardens and Guns, which is a real magazine, I saw it. Wow, it's a good magazine. It's an Austin-based magazine, no less. Gardens and Guns. Or, you know, who knows what you subscribe to. Could be a whole bunch of things. That is a That will now be known to the credit scoring, social scoring companies and well I guess if you... What difference does it make to them what magazines I subscribe to? Well what there's... Seriously, unless they're trying... unless Gardens and Guns is like for boatin' or...

2:32:03 I don't know. What else would they... guns and ammo and all the rest of them? Motorcycle week? I mean, what difference does it make to them? How does that affect my credit score? Let me tell you the example they use in this article. There was a... because you caught me a little off guard. I can paraphrase. A woman had a bad credit score for some reason and she could not get credit to buy a house or something and they went in, they looked closer... oh here it is. Christina Segura, 24, had a low credit score from unpaid medical debts when she applied for financing from FinTech startup Meritize, which is a credit score based company providing with loans. The company, which funds higher education skills-based training, used her high school transcript to approve her loans totaling $9,000 to attend pipe welding school.

2:33:04 Meritize considers factors such as improvements in grade, signs that students challenge themselves, etc. So they just want to have more social information about you to make their determination of how credit worthy you are. And I can see where, you know, if you subscribe to Harvard Business Review, that would be good. Garden and Guns, probably not. This is illegal. Is it? It should be. Between face bag tracking your location when you don't even use the app. Which is just encouraging stalking, by the way, if you're a woman.

2:33:48 Or like our little 15 year old that just sent that note in who wants to go OTG. If I was a woman, I would have all that stuff turned off because I don't want to be tracked because people can hack through these systems and you get some creep who's just following you around, he's a stalker. I always thought this was inviting stalkers. I'm sure it does. How come nobody ever mentions that? This is like inviting stalkers. Because it's technology, man. It's cool. It's cool. All right, well, I'm sufficiently grossed out. Sorry, don't make it up. Let's catch up on some stuff. Okay. There was an interesting little... Well, first, there's a guy from the Great... An expert on the Great Barrier Reef came online. Thank you very much. Sorry.

2:34:46 I came on to discuss some of the bull crap. He got fired. He's like the number one expert on the Great Barrier Reef. And he got fired from some university for telling him that all we're hearing is bull crap. But anyway, here's some of it. Well, thank you very much. Countless all heard that the Great Barrier Reef is on its last legs and it's been smothered by sediment, polluted by fertilizer and pesticides, and it's killed by dredging and of course climate change. Who here, put your hands up, believes that story is true as a matter of interest? Right. Well that's interesting. So I mean out there almost everybody believes it true. There's literally hundreds of millions of people around the world who think that.

2:35:26 So you guys now have got a little bit of a tricky question because you've been told it's dead and you believe it's dead. So how are you going to tell this? Am I a whistleblower and the world is being conned or am I a complete lunatic? And of course the way you decide is that you'll listen to my arguments that this is the libertarian way. But unfortunately that's not the way of a modern university as we will see in a minute. So I'll give you, before we go into my little tricky situation with the university, I'll give you some facts about the reef. Climate change is supposed to be killing all the corals, but did you know that most of the corals that live on the Great Barrier Reef also live in Indonesia and Thailand where the water is one or two degrees hotter and they actually grow 50% faster there, in fact probably more.

2:36:18 Coral bleaching, which you've heard such a lot about, is not a new phenomenon. It's been going on for a hundred million years or so. It's like a bushfire. It looks terrible, but the corals rapidly recover from it. He goes on and on with one thing after another. Everything you've heard about the corals is bogus. And this guy's the coral expert. I gotta get his whole speech because then he goes after his universe and fired him because he kept contradicting people that were just dropping these lies. And apparently if things do warm up, the corals will grow 50% faster. Oh man. I remember that Greta Thunberg and... Tuming.

2:37:07 Kimming, Kimming. Yeah. She, uh, what happens with that girl when she, when she flips and goes on and finds out that she's been, that most of it's bullcrap? Oh, we burn her at the stake. No, no, she, she'll be a dynamo. She'll be, she seems like the kind of person to be very easily irked. I took that two week trip on that boat. Stupid ass boat. What you haven't given me for today is an ISO. I thought I had one in here. I don't see any ISOs and we do need something.

2:37:46 Well, you have the China, China asshole. Okay. When in doubt, you can always roll that one out. Yeah, that's true. I got an old Democracy Now clip I want to play. This is again, something we haven't been talking about much. It's kind of got out of the news cycle. It kind of, it'll come back, but it's the water scam, which we used to talk about quite a bit. Now it's kind of fallen by the wayside, but it's being may be brought back by Democracy Now! 17 countries representing around one quarter of the world's population are at risk of running out of water. This according to new data published Tuesday by the World Resources Institute. The countries which include India, Iran and Qatar are facing extremely high water stress, meaning they're using up almost all of their water reserves.

2:38:36 Several U.S. cities and states, such as Los Angeles and New Mexico, are also considered to be under extremely high water stress. The number of afflicted regions will continue to climb due to global heating. The World Resources Institute says water stress is the biggest crisis no one is talking about. Its consequences are in plain sight in the form of food insecurity, conflict and migration, and financial instability. Yeah, I mean it's not the climate crisis, the climate emergency, global warming, it's global heating. I think that's more like an anglicized... I think the Brits use that sometimes. Global heat... global heating. And then water... Yeah, I don't know what the point of that was because she's usually on board with the climate emergency. Yeah. Yeah, climate crisis, yes. And she also uses... Either one of those. Water stress, another good one. So in the newsletter I put this little item about

2:39:50 I guess Dan Rather came out with a tweet that said, you know, Trump talked about fine Nazis, you know, they're... Oh, he went back to the fine people on both sides? Yeah. And then, but he took it further. He said that he called Nazis fine people. That's what he said in his tweet. Dan Rather. That bastion of news reporting. Yeah. Dan Rather, the guy who, you know, got fired for this report for a really bad story on George Bush. Which people, Libajos all defended him because they thought it was a real story but even though it was bogative. The letter this was written supposedly during the 40s or during George Bush's time, not in the 40s but I guess during the Korean War, some period of time so long ago that you

2:40:37 That it was obvious it was not, it was a fake because they had the TH was in small up, lower, it's 11th with a TH. And it's done like Microsoft Word does, it shrinks it and puts it up there. You couldn't do that back in the day. So rather, and he was pissed and he kept working, but I have to say, you know, these guys, But that these guys, these writers and reporters that are just locked in and they refuse to listen to reason. And of course, Scott Adams jumps in and does his because he's a big. Oh, let me guess. Let me guess. And then Dan Rather went, oh, you're right, Scott. I'll stop doing that.

2:41:17 Yeah, well that obviously didn't happen. But it reminded me of this clip that I've been sitting on, which is where Beto O'Rourke is confronted by someone from Daily, the caller or some, I don't know, some right-leaning operation about this hoax because Beto O'Rourke is probably the biggest promoter of it, of Trump saying, and to back people up, Trump never said that there were fine people on both sides except after he made a disclaimer saying, I'm not talking about the Nazis and the white nationalists. Very clearly did that. And so that's what, you know, so we have this two sides now. Well, he said that, but he still said fine people. So here's, but here's the way the Democrats are, and I hate to pick on Democrats, but this is Beto O'Rourke not listening to the Democrats.

2:42:13 to the guy and just going on with his pitch I really despise Beto O'Rourke. President Trump after Charlottesville said that he condemned the white supremacists and the neo-nazis totally. Are you aware that you're misquoting him or partially quoting him, not quoting the full extent of his remarks in Charlottesville? Are you concerned that that might inflame tensions rather than heal the visions? No, I believe in the truth and in being honest about what the president's doing. And it's not just that he referred to Klansmen as very fine people. It is that he attempted to ban all people of one religion from this country, or constantly warned of an invasion of killers and rapists and animals from Central America and Mexico, though we know that they commit crimes at a far lower rate than those who are born in this country. This is a very coordinated attack

2:43:06 on minorities in this country, on the most vulnerable and the defenseless for political gain for the president. And he knows full well that it not only offends our sensibilities as a country, it is leading to violence and the taking of lives as we saw in El Paso. But he said he wasn't referring to the neo-Nazis and the Klansmen. Just a clarification, he said he wasn't referring to the Klansmen as very fine people, that he was referring to non-violent protesters left and right. He has openly courted the support of white supremacists. I got my hair cut yesterday and the lady who cuts my hair grew up in El Paso and you know went to the same school as Bobby. It's Bobby by the way, not Bada. It's Bobby O'Rourke. It's Robert, Francis, Bobby. And even people in El Paso are like, yeah we like Liz Warren better. So if you can't make it in your hometown, something's wrong.

2:44:06 The guy's a dick. Correct. Well, I have one last thing to share. Joe sent this in. I think it's worth noting since we haven't really gotten, and I trust our boots on the ground reports from our producers. Adam, my wife and I had the pleasure of attending an event with Ruth Bader Ginsburg over the weekend. Ah, she lives! Because of her recent treatment, but I was pleasantly surprised to see and hear her in relatively good health. She had a man and a woman escort her by the arms as she processed, one of whom was certainly for security reasons as well as physical aid. Once she was up on little stage and seated, she was very lively. She stood several times throughout the ceremony to deliver her pieces, spoke with as strong of a voice as any diminutive 86-year-old lady could be expected to do. The impressive part was the vigor with which she stood, popped right up every time it was her turn.

2:45:01 If it comes up, feel free to share the antidote. Don't identify me or the wedding. Okie dokie. Justin always very curious about her health. She appears to be doing well, all things considered. Love and light, Joe says. So there you go. She is... Lizard. Yes. Yes, I think described a lizard lizard You pop right up with that head like whoop whoop. I want to know did she dart her tongue in and out? So she smells See coming up on no agenda stream calm we have Oh Mo facts meet the parents and Mo facts with Adam curry and

2:45:43 And I have a couple of good mixes. The Darby's return once again. These are new guys on the scene. Also, we have Jesse Coy Nelson, Sir... Chris and Sir Felix Wilson. And who am I missing here? And Freddy Got Fingers. There you go. That's your end of show mixes. We always welcome them and... Coming to you from the Opportunity Zone. It's number 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas. FEMA region number six in the governmental maps if you're looking for us. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Sunday with another episode of Deconstruction For You right here on NOAgenda. Remember us at dvorak.org slash NA. Until then, adios, mobos, and such.

2:46:47 John Bolton went to Trump Town to try to start some hell. Cause he ain't ever happy without a water cell. He had more than a year to do it, but time kept dragging on. He's a coward, complete joke. Finally Trumpy tweeted, John Bolton's ass is gone. When Bolton could have been drafted, he told the government I'll always be a Dodger, won't ever be in a fight But I'll lie about WMDs, just to watch others die Eliminate North Korea, eliminate North Korea When he couldn't start that new war, he hung his head and cried

2:47:36 I've always had a problem with Bolton. Every time I think Trump is making progress, Bolton butts in and he ruins it. I told you why Bolton is a chicken heart. Didn't want to serve in the Iran war, didn't want to serve in the Iraq war, didn't want to serve in Afghanistan, didn't want to serve in Vietnam. In 2015 you wrote a piece for the New York Times saying we ought to bomb Iran. But if we had done that then, where do you think we'd be now? Well, I think Israel could have done it 15 years before and we'd be in a much better place. Disrupt as many people as possible by vegan protesters. Specialized farms like this one out in California raise crickets for human consumption. And if you grab something like the kale, you can always throw them in a salad as well, guys.

2:48:36 from your plate just bugs and plants that don't taste great with a side of kale and if you're a boy they don't want that so they feed you soy cause the meat is gone Caught up in the factions, vegans coming after you Sorry you can't eat it, sorry you can't eat it, sorry you can't eat it The meat is gone The meat is gone The meat is gone

2:49:30 So, specialism is the belief that humans are superior to all other animals. And that's how humans justify exploiting them, whether that's in factory farms for their flesh, whether that's when they're locked up in zoos, or whether that's when they're brought into schools, you know, for children to have a bit of amusement on their lunch break. No gender! Talk for you now! South America! Australia! Germany! Calling out, I'm ready to live on the street. Winter's here, your money's stacked. Go living in the streets of Brooklyn, Chicago. Down in New Orleans, in New York City.

2:50:46 and pooping. They'll be pooping everywhere. They'll be sleeping through pooping in the street. Doesn't matter what you wear, just as long as you are a guy. Grab a rope and end pooping. Pooping in the street. It's an invitation across the nation. A chance for folks to meet.

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