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00:00 Yak yak yak yak yak. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Thursday July 18th 2019 this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 1156 This is no agenda. ...my yoga skills and broadcasting live from the frontier of Austin Texas cop with a drone star state in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where it's cold and the traffic is slow I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! Whoa, shorter than normal. You okay? Did you have your caffeine this morning? I was fine. Oh, alright... What you been up to? Heh, what?! What you been up too? Nothing. Nothin'? Prepping for the No Agenda show Yeah me too Me too. Did ya see the President's speech yesterday The one at North Carolina?

00:58 No. Oh my God. I know he's got some new material. Yeah, that's why we tune in! We usually watch Combo before 7 of MSNBC, CNN then you know probably watch Tucker Carlson at seven no way not when Trumps on I had to switch to YouTube That was fantastic. He literally comes in and says, I got nothing better to do tonight than be here so you know it's he just knows it's gonna roll but the best...the best was this. Look at that beautiful baby look at that beautiful wow what a baby! What a baby!! That is a beautiful baby

01:46 That's like from an advertisement. Perfect! Look how happy that baby is, so beautiful thank you darling that's really nice So someone's holding up their baby obviously in the front but what Trump didn't see is on the back of this baby's little jumper was a huge Q Twitter pretty much broke for a moment as the Q baby was held aloft The baby had a Q on its back? It had the big letter Q. Oh, geez! Troll or not it was funny and I don't think Trump knew it. Well, I'm sure he didn't Yeah, it was just funny and that's very good So that's what I did Well, it's only an hour of your time How long did you go? Was it an actual hour? No, it was an hour-and-a-half It's always an hour now but is an hour plus An hour-and-a-half

02:42 Hour and a half. Yeah, yeah well he had to go through the the squad he had to vilify each and every one of them which was pretty funny yeah Jake Tapper did a bit on his show on CNBC where he described the spectacle between Trump in the squad as a as Trump trolling the Democratic Party and Trump haters by making the squad, the frontispiece of the party. Yeah I think that bait was taken pretty much. The bait was not only taken but if you read

03:31 Multiple you know by the way Twitter's never supposed to be used for putting together 12 comments. I went to their threads You don't like the threads, I think those actually one of the better parts of Twitter well that it go to a blog true so Go read the New York Times. I mean there's ways of doing it, but so anyway So he does this thongs right and then he gets blasted by the people would normally be worshipping him Oh for being oh you know This is new way Trump's not that smart He's a bitch dummy, there's no way he is doing anything. So they go on and on and people commenting on Tapper's thesis is actually funnier and it's just like they're un...they're just not possible to...they are incorrect but these people are out of control. You know what I'm saying? It's really interesting because where Twitter is just actually yeah I think you're right it's out of control

04:27 I got a lot of hate tweets after our Epstein segment Remember, we're anti-semitic just for bringing it up. Do you know even though it was Steve Pachanik? Oh that's what Pachanik said would happen Yeah yeah so imagine... I never got any of these Nah but you know they can't spell your names they can't figure out where to get you So it was a plus! It's a big plus Adam Curry is so easy. But interestingly on noagendasocial.com the Fediverse The Federation is actually pretty calm and even with the on-boarding, let's put it like that of Gab.com And this is a very weird experience actually

05:14 In the late 90s, early 2000's we were still building out the network and we had peering agreements. And if you couldn't peer with a certain network because your traffic was too low or it was out of balance and you had to buy what is called transit to still get to that network this is really the architecture of the network itself And it feels a bit like that, where all of the sudden just this new network shows up and there's people over there on Gab, you know. Then they're communicating to noagendasocial.com It's hard to explain but it feels oddly comfortable how

05:57 These things you know just new new stuff new people show up every single day and this man I think minds.com is now saying that they're going to federate I think they have a there must have about a million people There's another there's a couple others that could do it too yeah Well, I'm glad you're enjoying yourself well. I'm enjoying the future my friend You can stay on that little Twitter. Yeah later Twitter is gonna be dwarfed pretty soon unless they federate I still think Jack Dorsey is smart enough to do it If he did it might be able to dominate I think so. Yeah, you know because Everyone what everyone argues about on this is we're talking about mastodon the open source, you know Federated network of servers What everybody complains about is the interface? You know that's why you have pleroma and you got

06:48 Pixel and all these different versions of it, and there's some you know video specific sites that are also federating So Twitter can just be its own its own interface You know It feels so much like the AOL days. Twitter is now a well nothing like those good old days with Twitter is America online Well was still dominating us in keyword no agenda And they open up, you know like you could click on a special button and oh there was a web browser. Oh my goodness! I can look at the internet and then before you knew it everyone's like wow that dangerous stuff over there that's where i want to be? I don't want to be on this safe keyword business now don't tell Jack that what's going to happen but I think he should still give it a go You know lot of people made a lot of money with America Online

07:39 Yeah, yeah. They sold it five times what was the guy's name? He was our board member Ted Ted Ted Ted who owns the hockey team now in Leonsis exactly that guy made some money off of AOL. Well Steve Case made some money too. I remember Steve Case tried to buy my first company I should have sold it to him. Yes, you're right It's all gonna be in the book Remember that when I didn't sell it to Steve case? Oh well shit. Well, you're not at least you're not in the same league as Pointcast one of my favorite that was so cool Hey the networks down so hey turn off point cast everybody is sucking up all the bandwidth and The other what the other one another flopper was friendster

08:32 You know, pre-everything for social networks and they couldn't quite bring themselves to sell out. Fools! How much you... there's like a 10 million but you could be making... you have like let's see 2 million or half a million... you have 50 million dollars in your pocket and a bunch of stock? Nah. Why do that? That'd be crazy yeah oh well Yeah, I heard it actually. You did? Yeah, so I have a number of C-SPAN things that I watch but first you played a pretty funny joke on me in the last episode where you told me I was listening to Kamala Harris and there was a lie

09:20 Lies! Because it was Mary Ann Williamson who right away just launched into... Wait, actually I should see if i have that clip. You know what? It was probably called Camela Harris Yeah, Camela something or other Let me see, let's even play that clip because I mean you had be going for a second Kamala in South Carolina or on a roll quiz on a roll here we go this is what you played and it wasn't Kamala Harris it was Marianne Williamson also a Democratic candidate for the nomination. I want the real thing ladies and gentlemen not just superficial things! I want a Department of Children & Youth

09:57 want to just talk about Medicare for all, although we need it. We need to talk about the chemical policies and the environmental policies and the food policies in the agricultural policy that are making us so sick. And I don't just want to talk about race based policy because if you're just talking about race based policy, you're leaving open the question of whose fault that is? We need reparations and we need reparations because reparations do more than pay money. They are spiritual power. They inherent mea culpa. They are an acknowledgement of a wrong that has been done, a debt that is owed and a willingness to pay it. And in addition to that, ladies and gentlemen we need to do more than just endlessly prepare for war. We need to do more than just say things like we need to bring the boys home! We need to challenge the underlying forces that make all this darkness inevitable. We need to challenge the military-industrial complex. We need to talk about war as too big business. We need a Department of Peace... By the way, that was the tip off —the military industrial complex—

10:57 Okay, so wait you can't play that without playing Camelot's clip these in South Carolina. Oh just to give you the contrast. Thumbs up! Good morning good morning! It was good being at Palm Meadows State thank you all I can't listen to it So i'm thinking You know, this is reparations. Like I gotta check out the check this Kamala Maryanne Williamson out with the ADOS community with the American descendants of slavery and there was one other video that came out on show day and so i sent

11:35 Now I figured he had listened to it, but then I also sent this next clip of Marianne Williamson to producer Moe because you know This is my one black friend and he always tells it to me straight And that was curious like all right. You know what do you think about her? Is she a possible candidate and I added to that This interesting session Marianne Williamson did at the Unity Church in Houston which is a pyramid I'm not quite sure what denomination this church is, but this is what she was doing. So to the African-Americans in the room who would wish and be willing to participate in this please stand up And now I'd like to ask white Americans who are sitting near you To please stand up and if the african-american citizen Would be willing to allow a white American who wishes to apologize to you and take part in this to hold your hands

12:27 And now as I speak, I'm going to ask the white Americans in the room to please repeat after me. On behalf of myself and on behalf of my country... To you and all African-Americans from the beginning of our nation's history In honor of your ancestors and on behalf of your children Please hear this from my heart. I apologize

13:13 Please forgive us. So this goes on for about 15 minutes and so it's a whole bunch, it's in the church, a whole bunch of white people touching the black person next to them and I understand the idea you know? I see where she's coming from until this part of the little ceremony... Please accept my apology this night It is for you and for your grandparents. And their grandparents before them, and their grandparents before them. May the screams that were not allowed

14:29 Be allowed now. What? Is that her screaming? No, this is someone in one of the congregation and Mo calls me he says black people will never vote for this woman This is like Kundalini yoga He says this is speaking in tongues Black people run away from this shit She will never ever ever get anywhere near the black vote with this He's right. The Pentecostals, which I believe there has to be some connection here... the Pentecostals are all into this stuff but even in the black Pentecostal church is talking in tongues thing

15:10 showed up in the early 1900s when some preacher that was having a failing congregation, a Pentecostal introduced it to the lexicon and started doing it. And it just packed them in always whites. We haven't seen blacks go for this talking in tongues thing ever And I watch a lot of church sermons as a form of entertainment. And blacks have their own technique for riling up the crowd, but talking in tongues is not one of them." So Mo goes on and he says you have no idea even kundalini yoga which includes this screaming is very similar to this? He said no it is seen as the devil, it has seen as witchcraft...

15:55 In fact, he says like voodoo the way it was being done there. The reason why Oprah is now distancing herself from Marianne Williamson is because she learned from the past she made a huge mistake this is it this is I think maybe 15 20 years ago well I am a Christian who believes that there are certainly many more paths to God other than Christianity I'm a free-thinking Christian who believes in my way, but i don't believe that it's the only way. What I believe is that Jesus came to show us Christ consciousness." So if you're not 100% on board with the original Christianity vibe... Black people do not like it In fact he said that when the rumors came out about Hillary Clinton and The Spirit cooking

16:47 You remember that? He said, that really turned off a huge portion of black America. Like even if just the rumor was enough don't want now don't want any... If you look at hip hoppers rappers they always have a cross on them they call Jesus pieces you know they got all their religious gear because you got to You got to have all of that, otherwise you just won't be accepted. So we can...you could put that on your list Mary Ann, even though we don't think she had a chance. Mary Ann Williamson definitely not going to do anything with this. You thought she had the candles chancing her? Yes very funny and I thought for a moment maybe but no no no and that's a little nutty man

17:36 yelling stuff. So was it as plant in the audience that was doing the screaming? No, no this is remember the Unity Church you go look at this thing it's a pyramid now there's no denomination doesn't really explain what kind of church it is so... I mean somebody was screaming yeah one of congregation actually two people started screaming. Yes and thats why im asking do you think because I've seen this happen and...No! It was meant to be it was yeah it was planted Not against her ripped it not against her no, it's kind of for her as part of her bit. Oh, of course Yeah, that's what you mean? Yes, of course. That's part of the show yeah It's part of the show so yeah anyway because she walked right into the next line. It wasn't like it was a Some that startled her No in fact She was in the back of the church and she just slowly walked forward and put her arms around the woman And he was okay everybody's good fantastic

18:32 Oh, what a crock of crap. Nice to see- Nice screamer! I mean she could get voice acting work if she you know- No it was a fantastic scream i expect that to be in an end of show mix somewhere Yeah Not by itself It's not a solo No no it has to be incorporated So that's my 2020 news I think I don't think I have anything else for the US oh except for the Biden gaffe Oh I didn't get the Biden gaffe Here is Where is it? Yeah. Oh, put it got to put it in the player for the players. I will apologize for deportations if in fact you're deported because in fact you're engaged into misdemeanor and or your family was separated we need family separation yeah that's the one I had that's a clip I had last show that I didn't put that part in because I thought

19:29 It was not as germane as the rest of the clip, which is nuttier. Well by a standalone clip it's I think it's pretty decent Yeah, no, I probably should have done it. No, it just shows that you know these guys Joe's got same problems Trump has except Trump's president Joe's fighting for it So it's gonna be interesting to all right. I do have a few things They have a couple of series of clips Okay in different I have some of the opening of The Squad Four women that decided to become their own rock group and they're gonna be floating around as the squad. And Omar, we start to discover she can't pronounce her R's very well. Yeah and also she can't say patriot. She has pate-y it

20:17 That's because there is an R in there. Yeah, she can't say Patriot. She would be the type of person who would say Woot beer that her Rs are Ws. Woot! Let's laugh about speech impediments nice okay. Why not? That what this show does but you just brought the gaff up so that's what led me into this because she had interesting gaff see if you can pick this up this is the Omar quotes As Martin Luther King said... Right there, I heard it the first time. It's Martin Luther King! As Martin Luther King said all we say to America is be true to what you say on paper

21:02 I believe this is a pivotal moment in our country. Sometimes she can't... By the way, what does that mean? It's it's a pivotal moment in our country. No but what she says Martha Luther King said be true to what you put on paper or something. I mean play that whole clip again and tell me what she said! Okay, I love our government As Martha Luther King said all we say to America is Be true to what you say on paper. I believe this is a pivotal moment in our country All I heard was pivotal and I forgot everything else The problem with Omar, she's beautiful! You just look at her and go why do i dislike you? She really pretty

21:53 She would be a model in easily in Looks like I'm oh, she's a little too short but she has those gorgeous features. Yes Let's play her I got three clips from her But the thing that bothers me is he brings out all and I had to upgrade the Trump rotation Oh boy we have an addition Yes, I there's two that were left out. Okay one now this is children in cages Trump rotation calm everybody Trump rotation calm I had to add puts rotation puts rotation hello Cages and the second one was

22:36 wants to separate families. That's what he wants! When you see Trump, you're seeing a guy who wants to separate families. Wait a minute... Isn't RIP babies from mothers arms already on the rotation? No Rips babies from mother's arms is maybe another one I should put. I should put a slash rips because that that's actually an extension, they're both the same. So let's play Omar 2 because now we start to hear the kinds of these memes that the Democrats are relying on to get people worked up and one of them is just outrageous. Right now, the president is carrying out mass deportation raids across this country in each one of our districts right now The President is committing human rights abuses at the border keeping children in cages and having human beings drinking out of toilets forces people to drink out of toilets

23:41 Now this has been so debunked, and maybe we should repeat what it is that they're talking about. The various agencies in some prisons have found there's some company that makes a toilet that is also a sink? and a drinking fountain. It's all part of this giant stainless steel one device. It's floor wax and the dessert topping in one! Yeah, it's like...it's actually pretty efficient looking thing. It has got a toilet at the bottom then it extends up to a sink where you wash your hands and then on the sink I believe there is a drinking fountain but drinking from that is not drinking out of toilets

24:27 But that's what they want to promote, which is okay if you want to be a liar. Mm-hmm but then nobody seems to care about them lying Okay let's go with her third comment that I clipped This is the president who has called black people who come from black and brown countries shitholes Black and Brown Now what she said here is that the president is calling the people Yeah, shitholes. That come from black and brown countries Those people he's calling them shit holes. Yeah Let's just listen to it again to make sure that's what she said This is a president who has called black people who come from black and brown countries? shithole

25:13 I mean, this is rich. How come this is like... This is gold! Comedy gold from this woman? I don't understand why people aren't paying more attention to it." Oh she's so right oh... He told her to go back to her home. And for those outside of the country, this is quite the news story here. The distraction of the week Although, set up that way by the president for the reasons you mentioned to make the whole Democratic Party look nutty. Yes! Because the Democrats they're kind of caught in between having to defend these people these four women specifically

25:56 who are haters, let's just start with that premise. One of them is the one from Washington state is just a horrible person and all of them were pretty rotten but they got to defend him because their fellow Democrats and nobody you know... They've been had in the way I see it by Trump and they don't seem to be kind of knowing about it but can do anything about it It's very strange to watch I also saw a little bit of posturing and infighting, just body language when a question was asked in AOC or as the president now says Cortez. God! I should have clipped that. I forgot about it last night he says Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Cortes. It's too long it's too long I can't say the whole name I'm just calling her Cortez

26:51 So Cortez, AOC wanted to answer the question and Omar jumped in and physically pushed her away. Who pushed who away? Omar pushed AOC aside to answer the question it was just a body language thing but I was...AOC she looked nervous too. AOC didn't seem like she's very comfortable with the whole four horsemen of the horse women of the apocalypse on stage She seemed, I watched that whole thing. I guess they didn't pick up on the push aside thing but I don't think she was prepared for it. I don't think she's uncomfortable necessarily with being part of this group because I think her chief of staff, the guy who is running everything, that social justice warrior guy... Yeah, just as Democrats. Sorry, just as Democrats. I'm going to get these mixed up

27:45 So I don't know it's like that's something to watch for sure. It could be end up as the squad could only be three She bails No, that's doubtful she has no say in the matter. She said she is just doing what she's told Yeah pretty much and I'm sad about it because I thought oh man you remember I was kind of oh You're jacked up now That's your interpretation but I thought she was very interesting. I liked her a lot, I liked how she just the whole package was perfect and you know but she falls apart all the time! She's can't do it. She's dummy. No...I don't like people calling people stupid or dumb Yeah i know you don't But yeah she's not the brightest bulb in this pack

28:36 Let's talk about the impeachment attempt and then the other thing, which was calling out Trump for saying being a racist prick. Yeah now this is another interesting... it's Al Green who has been trying to file articles of impeachment and get a vote on the floor for at least a year maybe longer No no right from the get-go okay as soon as Trump took office I think you're right yeah And articles of impeachment, which can be on high crimes and misdemeanor. Not really for being racist I don't think it's not a great look but i don't think you can be impeached for it. Well according to Al Green you can he says that being a racist is a high crime or a misdemeanor

29:25 Hmm even Pelosi had to say that the president wasn't racist. She said he said something racist Which I also checked with Moe and he laughed tips People don't think that's racist says and we're laughing do you want us to leave? Well, then the economy will collapse a good point Let's listen to, well let's do the impeachment thing here. I've got two takes on it... Well just want to explain one extra thing for people even people in the United States there still many think you have a hearing you say impeachment uh you vote and this majority vote and the president is gone and no that's not how it works! The only body that can remove the president is the senate in this process but then there's no way they have the votes

30:16 They have, they send the articles of impeachment to the Senate. The Senate has to vote him out and to make it more difficult they have to vote him up by 75% of the votes. Yeah, by a huge majority so that likelihood I mean the guy has to really be a complete screw-up he you I mean I don't know what you'd have to get to to get to that point So this is just all showboating because they know there's no it's not even close again It's not impeachable But okay, so I'm waiting for your clips. Yeah, yeah, I got a CBS versus NBC Okay Let's talk about CBS for a second Nora O'Donnell finally came in now We're gonna put on my executive hat because it's gonna be again. Okay? How did she look? Horrible things that I do on this show Now Nora comes in

31:14 Mimi's here, and she's watching it when she does her first. Oh my god She goes nuts you think why is this woman the I told she's the anchor what? What happened to the other guy and so Nora comes on And then I noticed that she's got a normal morning show hairdo in the whole thing She comes on and and it's immediately obvious what the problem is who do you see her? She has unbelievably dead eyes ooh Is there something new from nora You know, I think she may have always in the morning show they have her lit a little differently. They don't but they don't have just to focus on her head and it may not be. I mean she's usually either glowering on The Morning Show at somebody as a Republican. Uh, I never noticed the dead eyes before right? It could be this situation where she or I just had to die or maybe they gave her a drug. I have no idea but you it's so noticeable

32:09 And so you look at it and go, ugh. So of course her ratings plummeted way below Jeff Glor already. So CPS is having meetings like something like what we're talking about and they got a problem with her. The next day she comes on as she does a remote report in the wind, your eyes are squinty and can't really see your dead eyes. And you can't, and they got her made up differently where JC is in the house and he looks at it. Is that a, is that? And he's thinking it some sort of deep fake because the face looks fake because of the makeup. Uh huh. And I'm saying no. And then the worst part is they put her into kind of a man's shirt and they clipped your hair off and gave her a pixie cut

32:56 Is there video or photographic evidence of this bad look that you speak of? I actually took one, I took a shot and put it in the next newsletter. What i thought was the worst thing... And then she was glowering because everybody else started off with all kinds of stories about the weather and Epstein and one thing or another but no-no She made sure because editor Anchor of a news hour is typically the editor-in-chief. And so she started off the whole thing and the whole beginning of the show was about the border crisis, right? and she had the guy who's the head temporary head of Department Homeland Security and he seems like a nice guys answers to questions the right way and She's given him that stink eye He's been on almost every show and I think he's handled himself very well under attack. Very very slick Yeah

33:44 And she's giving him the glower and then they cut back to her in the field, wind blowing on her and her eyes kind of squinting. She just got that look on her face like she smelled the world's worst fart. It just stuck on her face! Is it glower-ing or gowering? I think it's glowery, i could be wrong but look it up. And whatever the case she's got this stench in the air look on her face and their eyes are squinted and she got a pixie haircut... She looks like a dude! There it is okay you've set it up for us all right and then Well, and then I mean i'm waiting for the overnight. So that was just yesterday every time she's come on apparently the first night they decided they gotta fix something And so they've started to screw with her. I think she's I began to think this dude for today show

34:34 I'm almost thinking they set her up to fail. So they really want to get her out now, huh? Hmm...I think they may have always wanted to get her out She stands in the way- I mean you have to remember that CBS has become a good old boys operation ever since Les Moonves was there and and he loaded the place up with his friends They can't like this woman And she obviously had high hopes to becoming an anchor. It's okay, you want to be anchor babe? We'll put ya up! They put her out there... everything is wrong then they clip her hair off just I think they set her up to fail she's not gonna be there for more than two months. Okay put it in The Red Book So they cut this hair off into a pixie cut that just look at oh man that's horrible

35:25 I gotta see this pixie cut hair. I have a copy of the... well, I just said to you after the show that i don't have any handy decent now but it's like..I mean it's possible is not a pixie cut but it's a tight pulled back ponytail. Yeah yeah yeah I see it now oh yeah It completely ruins her face she looks like Kathy Lee She looks terrible All right let's play the clip Oh, anyway. But it's not expressed as much in this clip but there is a little bit of it here. She really has a negative influence on the network in terms of the way she puts it

36:02 put the way she presents the news. She's not going to, I'm telling you, I'm now convinced she has been set up. Don't blame her at all impeachment CBS Donald John Trump president of the United States is unfit to be president It was a test vote on sorts on the appetite for impeachment and it turns out that hunger is low No I think we'll get rid of all this right now More than half of House Democrats joined All Republicans to table the idea for now I do think i'm winning the political fight. I think i'm winning it by a lot. Texas Democrat Al Green forced the vote by introducing an impeachment resolution It says, the president's racist comments this week suggesting those who may look to the president like immigrants should go back to other countries qualify as high misdemeanors If you did what the president has done You would be punished

36:54 president was referring to these four Democratic Congresswomen who spoke to Gail King. So what is the point of... So Al Green, and they both NBC had the same clip in different forms but Al Green says if you did something like this you'd be punished really? Yeah well you have to wash your mouth out with soap. Has he ever been on Twitter? I don't think so yeah I mean, you could nobody's going to get punished for saying, you know, send her back to Somalia or Sudan. Where she's from anyway and go on look to the president like immigrants should go back to other countries qualify as high misdemeanors if you did what the president has done, you would be punished The president was referring to these four Democratic Congress women who spoke to Gail King So what is the point of going through the exercise of impeachment?

37:48 when it doesn't look like it will go anywhere. The Watergate class didn't have the votes on the Senate side, they didn't function from that place They functioned in putting the country first But Democratic leaders prefer to wait and for now most party members appear to be with them We have six committees who are working on following the facts In terms of any abuse of power obstruction of justice and rest that the president may have engaged in. The President arriving in North Carolina for a rally tonight called the results of this vote overwhelming and said, that's the end of it! But with special counsel Robert Mueller set to testify next week Nora this wasn't the end of anything Oh God I'm so tired of this

38:35 Mueller. All right, you know all he's gonna say is no agenda is the best podcast in the universe I mean you said it'd stick to the report so we know that that's in there Oh that's in there? Yeah Now I think you can contrast that with NBC now CBS is You know, I don't know what they're thinking and what they're up to or anything at this point And the Nora thing is just baffling. It's just obviously some want to get rid of her and this one way of doing you send somebody upstairs so that point of incompetency in his then screw with a make him nervous I mean it doesn't take a lot if you're in broadcasting

39:11 To be surrounded by people telling, everyone telling you you're doing it wrong. You're no good... That's pretty much what broadcasting is. Podcasting Eve! Are you kidding me? Podcasting?! You didn't do that! You didn't handle it! You didn't say that right! Put a time code down as a possibility. Let's go with him here's the rundown on NBC No impeachment for now as the very vote Democratic leaders had hoped to avoid is forced to the forefront by a single lawmaker, Congressman Al Green of Texas. He's arguing that President's racist attack on four freshman lawmakers telling them to go back to their home countries has demonstrated that Donald Trump is unfit to be president. Today we take up punishment I will vote to impeach him if

39:58 If you did what the president has done, you would be punished. But Green's motion was effectively killed for now in a vote late today On this vote the yeas are 332 That's because despite pressure from more than 1 third of her caucus House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has opposed impeachment concerned it distracts from Democrats policies She prefers to proceed with a series of congressional investigations That is the serious path that we are on Not that Mr Greene is not serious But we'll deal with that on the floor. espousing the views of our country, the four congresswomen. I'm not relishing the fight! I'm enjoying it because i have to get the word out to the American people and you have to enjoy what you do." Now another escalation tonight Attorney General William Barr and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross voted in criminal contempt of Congress An extraordinary move by Democrats frustrated with the White House's refusal to comply with subpoenas about a controversial citizenship question on the 2020 census

41:06 And late tonight we are hearing from the president about that impeachment vote ahead of his rally in North Carolina. He's calling it a ridiculous project, saying it is time for Democrats to get back to work. I always say every country gets what the government deserves and were really getting that here. We really are. From all sides its tiring, dumb, childish unfortunately this how American politics works You know, discredit. It's incompetent. Discredit, call him a racist, it's just back and forth and it's been that way forever. Now its amplified because of social media and the internet in general more news channels they were calling George W Bush a racist, they're calling everybody... Antichrist! The antichrists well he might have been that

41:54 But, you know it's like that's what we do. That's what we do in our politics and it's sad and I think it's a bit embarrassing honestly. So you think the No Agenda show should just drop anything that is political? Not at all discuss not at all in legalization of dope. No, I do have some things to discuss but yet I get this 24 hours a day This is this fight. I like the Nora O'Donnell stuff. I like I'd like hearing that she's on the outs I mean not that I like it for her But well we don't know if she said this is just my thesis God, but I'm all-in I know how it works and if you're giving people remember MTV fired me because I wouldn't cut my hair

42:35 And I know because the minute i cut my hair, I would have been out because it would have looked like a penis with a leather jacket. Yeah you had the right idea well she obviously knuckled under this hairdo and then they put her in this...I'm telling you the photo I have of which I'll run into next newsletter she looks like a little boy Or like, she looks like a no. She looks like a metrosexual guy from you know maybe a 20 year old. Gotcha It's just terrible I mean you just look and you say what are they thinking? And then that's when it dawned on me i said oh these guys aren't stupid They're just trying to screw with her So there were a couple of interesting oversight committees Oh before I say that Just sticking with the candidates

43:23 So I read the article, you know the one that...I don't know about Mayor Pete and everyone got all in a huff about that article. And then the article had to be pulled and the only thing I learned—and we talked about this on last show— By the way, the article was dull. The article was dull and dumb but what I learned is as we know in certain gay circles, gay men They have nicknames. So Elton John famously, his gay name is Sharon and yeah there's a lot of these Marmadine I've heard all kinds of they're kind like funny names Campy

44:01 And from this article I learned that Mayor Pete's gay name is Mary. It's Mary Pete! That was the only thing of Mary... It kind of looks like a Mary. Mary Pete, I don't think it's right for us to call him Mary Pete but it's just interesting to know in the gay community, whatever that is amongst some gays they call them Mary So there were a couple of other interesting sessions. There was a censorship and Google session which I liked, and the one I thought was most interesting particularly as it pertains to being off the grid... What am i going on two years now without a smartphone? Think is about almost 2 years isn't it? It's been awhile! Yeah let's just call it two years

44:48 And there's a... Seems like an eternity. There's a misunderstanding, a lot of people think well you can get tracked the government control yeah of course that's not the issue The issue is apps The issue was the information your phone has on you such as how you're holding it where you are what location you're at how often you go there browser history and these apps have a lot of permissions I mean, we remember they won't even let you use some of these apps. But I wrote a whole entire column about all the permissions that Google Navigator asks for. They pretty much own you after you say yeah to the maps. Yeah well the whole Android platform is kind of a spying platform and when I say spying is it really? No your main spy

45:33 When I say spying, you mean spying. You don't mean anything else. You're not meaning anything else. It's spying! Well, I don't mean the government is spying on you...I mean that it really comes down to banking and this is what I want to talk about So there was a the financial oversight committee had a hearing and they brought in the one guy who is The Facebook representative for Libra. This is the so-called Cryptocurrency that Facebook wants to launch and they had this big white paper, and they have you know 27 28 different partners And then they want to do digital money

46:14 And they launched it in a kind of disingenuous, well I don't know if there was them but the marketing is everything. So the idea is oh this is a crypto and its going to be... No its not! Its a centralized token really that will represent In fact its more like an ETF, an exchange traded fund That your money is going to be apart of You know, why and how and all of these things came up in this session. And there were some good speakers and they did have some crypto experts. In fact one young woman is a Bitcoin expert she had some interesting things to say but it all kind of kicked off before this session with the message from the Secretary of the Treasury The man whose name is on the US dollar Mnuchin Last month the Libra Association A consortium of 28 businesses including

47:05 a Facebook subsidiary announced that it is developing a cryptocurrency called the Libra. The Treasury Department has expressed very serious concerns that Libra could be misused by money launderers and terrorist financiers. Cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin have been exploited to support billions of dollars of illicit activity like cybercrime, tax evasion extortion ransomware illicit drugs human trafficking Many players have attempted to use cryptocurrencies to fund their malign behavior. This is indeed a national security issue The United States has been at the forefront of regulating entities that provide cryptocurrency We will not allow digital asset service providers to operate in the shadows and we'll not tolerate the use of the cryptocurrencies in support of illicit activities

48:08 Now with that, Bitcoin actually took a pretty big nose dive after that announcement came out and the president reiterated that. And it's starting to climb back up a little bit since then I think also since this Facebook hearing because the guy didn't really do too well Actually before we get to that here is Representative Patrick McHenry. I think he is Republican from Kentucky And he was on CNBC trying to explain the difference between a true, really the only true cryptocurrency Bitcoin and this fake ploy by Facebook to come into this space and capture the attention in everybody's money. The question though long term do you think that regulators and politicians like yourself will allow

49:00 the emergence and this sort of these new types of currencies if they don't look a lot like the regulations and guardrails that we currently have around fiat currency and money. Well, I think there is no capacity to kill Bitcoin even the Chinese with their firewall uh... in their extreme intervention there society could not kill bitcoin so a distributed ledger full and open as that it in in the essence of bitcoin is the first mover in this space the developer this technology of blockchain and cryptocurrencies congressman can I just ask you question related to that because because bitcoin has fallen in large part on- but my point here is, you cant kill bitcoin but new iterations of this that are trying to mimic it

49:45 that are not fully distributed, that are not fully open. There are different mechanisms to kill it." You say you can't kill Bitcoin and I... To some degree I agree with you and in some degree I don't if you said right now that Coinbase cannot accept money from American citizen If you said any of these wallets can accept money I'm not saying you'd shut down Bitcoin. Bitcoin would exist somewhere and it would be sort of in a dark web kind of situation, but it effectively would make it very difficult for the mainstream to use it Sure, but I mean how mainstream is that right now? If it ever gets mainstream if it ever gets to escape velocity does Congress do regulators say you know what actually and in the same way that you're looking at Libra as closely As you are and this is going to happen at the G7 meeting as well Do people say you know what we can't have that Bitcoin will live in in the shadows But boy It's not gonna live in the mainstream And that's a question. I think I haven't I think it's the question whether

50:45 that Bitcoin investors have and that's why the price of it has come down in the past literally 48 hours. You're talking about something that was a joke 10 years ago, people were giving away for free not a joke but people are giving away for free is now trading at $10,000 you have 21 million coins The essence of bitcoin is what Libra and Facebook and corporates are trying to mimic Okay, so now you have kind of a background on what's going on and there's I don't want to we don't need to talk about the validity Of Bitcoin or not even though. I'm a maximalist

51:20 But so they get this hearing underway and it was pretty much we did expect a bunch of uninformed boobs sitting on the dais asking stupid questions for hours on end. Even AOC Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was there with her obligatory nut job question. Currently, the Libra Association is governed by Facebook Uber eBay Spotify Visa Thrive Capital Union Square Ventures and a handful of non-profits as well as some other partners, correct? It is correct. Were they democratically elected? I mean this is the kind of shit we get... were they democratically elected?! Oh do you know what's going on woman no there was one guy who wow yeah there was a lot of that actually Tlaib was chairing the committee for awhile which was also interesting she was nervous from trying to make it all proper and cutting everybody off on time

52:17 There was one congressman, Davidson—I gotta look up where he's from. He knows very well what he is talking about. I think there is a crypto caucus actually? It must be Republicans although I'm not sure of the total makeup of it but you know there are some people who do understand what they're talking about And one of the people there to testify is a woman named Meltem Demiros. I think she's had a couple of successful Bitcoin ventures and she definitely knows what she's talking about, and they had a fun little back-and-forth talk about Omar with her shitholes. We highlighted a lot of background information about Bitcoin and about the immutable distributed ledger and the benefits of that decentralization versus centralization

53:08 You know a lot of people in this space will use a phrase that you may be familiar with there's Bitcoin and then their shit coin Are you familiar with that phrase? And what people might mean by that I am so could you elaborate on how people would differentiate the two Absolutely. I think the idea here is Bitcoin has had a long track record, the network has been operating for 10 years, the Bitcoin network has been tested, the decentralized nature of the Bitcoin protocol has been tested people have tried to co-opt control of Bitcoin source code and push it in certain directions that benefit their business models

53:45 and this network, and this protocol, and its open source governance have withstood that test. Is there a central authority that could dilute the value of Bitcoin? No, is there a central authority that could filter transactions at Bitcoin? No That can only be done through the products and services that people utilize to access the network like coinbase for example Absolutely. That is a US company that is regulated based on the facts of what its business model is with Bitcoin You can still engage in peer-to-peer transactions like cash correct absolutely And because open source code you could have a wallet correct absolutely all these features are different than one many of the things that people call colloquially shit coin I Just love hearing that in just like I'd like here and shit coin. I do it's been around for a long time But finally its reach Congress so the people are trying to understand what's going on and none of them have it right? And what's really happening didn't actually come up with

54:43 And so I want to try and explain what i think is happening with the two clips from a guy named Brett King. He spoke last year at Bankers Conference in Germany, and he calls it bank 4.0. The whole idea is to get people into banking without any physical infrastructure The the same type of tracking that we've been talking about, the spying to suggest services for you at the right moment and of course when we say services there's really only three services that banking provides. I'm generalizing but it's storing your money so a place to store the value that you have and whatever represents money is for transferring that foot to someone else or do you know to purchase something and credit

55:35 And credit is the big one. You're not going to get any credit from Bitcoin, this is what Libra is ultimately about. Libra is fighting there in a fight to become the competitor really to Jack Ma's aunt finance. So in China you have WePay and what's the other one? Alibaba Pay I guess, and pretty much 96 or 97 percent of all scientists agree that that's all the money is done through those two payment systems And that is where the social The score comes into play and the social score is tied into these payment apps, which I'm sure Facebook would love nothing more.

56:19 Now when you have a totalitarian government like the Chinese, there's examples I think it was in a Vice documentary where the guy jaywalked and facial recognition picked up that it was him and within 20 seconds they deducted the fine straight from his we pay. And he noticed that on his phone. It is good deterrent because he isn't going to jaywalk anymore but its obviously dystopian and very creepy But what this is really about where the money is isn't credit everybody lives off of credit in America for sure but pretty much around the world and I think that the end game is to get you into as much I Think has always been the game To get you into as much debt so give you as much credit As you can actually afford and squeeze it down So you can just be just making those monthly payments because there's a lot of money. You can still squeeze out of people now

57:09 Here's this Brett King guy talking about an example of how what he calls contextual banking will work. So when you start thinking about utility as it changes, banking becomes highly contextual and a great example of this might be credit access for day-to-day banking where I walk into a grocery store and I fill up my cart and I go to the checkout And then they swipe my card and the cashier says, I'm sorry sir it's been declined. Yeah some of your customers may have had this problem and so then you go fishing for another card well let me give you this one can you try this one?

57:52 What about if we didn't think about that as a product-based process? What about if you think when you walk in the grocery store, If I know you don't have enough money to do your grocery shopping. I present you with an offer for credit access right there and then To solve that problem. I don't wait for you to get to the checkout This is experiential design of this So then we come back to the role of advisors because when it comes to financial services, We've had this view predicated over the last 30 or 40 years that The best way to get the best bang for your buck in investment terms is

58:29 You need to have a human involved. You need to get that advice, but technology is also going to change the way we think of advice in financial services In fact probably the most common form of advice our customers will be faced with in the future from financial services It's just something as simple as this hey Siri can I afford you out for dinner tonight? so the The way the credit card companies work is very slow and cumbersome to get to this point, which is why we need digital money. If you are getting close to your credit limit but still pay on time what you'll notice is that the credit card company says

59:11 you've been such a good boy we're gonna give you an extra $10,000 credit go ahead and go nuts. You can afford it it's all good." So they want this in real time and they're competing I think A.) they're really worried about Alibaba AliPay Which is run by Ant Financial, that's Jack Ma's company. But they're fighting against Google and we get to Google after this next clip Apple is trying although Apple doesn't seem to really have the whole all the pieces together I need a banker on board Yes, the fastest scaling financial services organizations in the world today are digital that enables them to get the scale very very rapidly and The biggest financial services organization in the world by 2030 is going to be an financial as a result of that

1:00:02 They're going to be worth twice what ICBC is worth by the end of next decade. They're going to have about 3 billion customers and they are going to be doing lending, investment, all these things powered by the fact that they have three billion people connected on a super wallet architecture over 100 countries and this is well on their way already. I didn't know about the money gram that Alibaba tried to buy them.

1:00:54 And that the thing is good that Trump stopped that but they're good for Trump, but the real bad actors By the way no other president would have done that because they haven't got a clue about finance You're absolutely right. I didn't even know he did it. I heard it from this guy How would you know why would anyone even mention in mainstream media? That will be crazy. I'm asking ya. You wouldn't know So to wrap this up, Google is the one that I think is we really... This is a Facebook Hail Mary. Everyone sees the Google danger. Google is so entrenched in everybody's life they really even if I'm OTG they still have a lot of information on me just because they track everywhere whether you use Google or not

1:01:37 And they, as we've discussed before are the majority stakeholder in Credit Karma. So when you think of Ant Financial and how you have this social score which penalizes you for not being a good person or any type of moving violation you might make and of course rewards you when you do something good I can tell you that is now in place and and i think it is the Vantage 4.0 score which is what Credit Karma is based on we've talked about the FICO score which is still used by most major mortgage lenders and auto financiers, which has compiled from very different very stodgy very old data sets

1:02:24 Whereas credit karma is basing your trustworthiness on your timeliness of paying, your utility bills and other certain types of things. And it is modifying people's behavior to be better so they can give them more credit I know I've said this before but I went looking at credit karma and trying to figure out how they tie in just looking for some more information on what their future plans are It was much easier for me to just go to the public marketing side and just grab a couple of their YouTube videos To show you not only where their head is but how people think about Their credit score again. This has nothing to do with your actual what used to be important FICO score This is really well, you'll hear these Millennials in this credit karma informational video Hey everyone welcome to credit crunch where we tackle commonly asked credit questions

1:03:16 Today's episode is all about credit scores and what they mean. We're hitting the streets of San Francisco with our financial expert to find out more, Jennifer? Thanks Kaylee! Let's see what people know about their credit scores Do you know any credit score is yeah of course I don't want to credit score is do you guys know what a credit score is unfortunately yes I guess it's like a score that credit agencies It measures your credit worthiness if you're a cool guy or not. A credit score is a three-digit number that determines whether or not I can get a car. It's determinative of whether you're going to get a loan for anything What does the credit score measure?

1:03:52 How much credibility you have with borrowing money? That's almost like a judgment of your ethical character. Like how well you utilize your credit... Essentially, how much the people that are giving you money trust you to pay it back Who do you think uses credit scores? Mortgage companies. Credit card companies Some jobs do I think they evaluate their risk as far as are you going to pay them back? Credit scores can be confusing Simply put, they're what lenders often use to gauge whether they can trust you to repay your debts on time The higher your credit score the better There are many factors that could affect your credit score Thanks for watching everyone If you liked our video give it a thumbs up and subscribe to Credit Karma's channel

1:04:36 So you heard it there. You heard it there, your general your character in general you can't get a job and yes that is what this is being used for they're tying it into... This has been used for this purpose we've talked about on the show at least five years ago long before the thing happened in China Yes, but now with all the data that they're collecting from your driving habits. We only discussed it really in terms of insurance I think typically but now it's going to... No we talked about it in terms of getting a job because I think you're absolutely right

1:05:17 Now Google is doing something very interesting. They are launching a lot of different services or buying into service, just outright acquiring or becoming majority shareholder without their name on it so credit karma is the big one at the same time some outrageous like 70 million people are using this and they've groomed seventy million people into doing certain things Health ties into this. Your health data is in your phone, it's in a little health store and of course people go I don't care I'm just gonna give that Credit Karma app access to that they can take a look at that so all of these things are coming down to creating the perfect slaves

1:05:59 who will function exactly the way that this bank, I'll just call it the Google Bank wants you to be a good person adhere to the speed limits so that they can continue to give you more credit and squeeze you all the way down until...I don't know until you just have to go work for Google. I don't know what the end game is But the social credit score is already in America and it's surfaced for now as Credit Karma. And that what this is about I think you made the argument at the Social score, whatever it's called in China has been here actually already been here and is just now popping up. It was predates China? Of course it does but China took the money and run I mean China has the perfect government for this kind of stuff to work

1:06:49 You know, the government's all over Ant Financial Systems. So you know that's... Yeah we haven't gotten to the point where you can't get on an airplane because you have a bad credit score No but I don't see why it couldn't happen It's really not that important because that's a social issue that our government isn't set up the way China's is but to benefit the Google Bank Yeah, they're going to make you do things so that you have the right credit To do certain things and it could come to that Absolutely or we'll give you know. You've been driving too fast So we're just not gonna give you credit for for that car

1:07:26 You can have credit for a different car. Buy an older car! There's lots of ways around it, John I'm just saying when people 150 million around the world for the second time in as many years install the idiotic face app to make yourself look old which thank you very much uh i have no desire to make myself look old um You know this app What's in the news all it's owned by Russians is right now bullshit. Oh, it's the stealing your photos of the facial recognition Bullshit this thing is filled with trackers That's all that it is its placing advertising IDs It's tracking it if you don't want to look at just the permissions you want to look at their privacy policy And that's where you can see

1:08:14 how they share everything, share with the data brokers. That is a complete spy app and everyone's all focused on the picture part of it. It's unimportant! I thought it was a fantastic ploy Well it is. This is just as good as the one that Cambridge Analytics did with the phony baloney, how smart are you quiz or whatever was. Just same thing exactly. Oh let me just answer these stupid questions I'll just do this and clicking clicking clicking clicking click And yeah, crazy. And when you look at what they do is they continuously monitor your browser tracking even if you delete the app I'm not sure about iOS but on Android it still leaves specific identifiers on your phone that the tracking companies will be able to use

1:09:07 And they're going to use it for this. Who do you think they're selling it too? They're selling it to banks, that's the main... Those are the guys how much money is defined isn't the financial sector the only real industry we have anymore in America Isn't that what we do now? It's true but its a funny idea We getting there! Its what it is so That's why You need to get rid of your smartphone and it's not just for yourself it's for everybody else And of course, I know I'm just... I know I'm swinging away at the windmills because every you know the Millennials today are IDC. I don't care! They know everything anyway. I don't care. It's all fun and games with sparkly toys Well, I'm here to tell you good. I'm here to tell you The New Generation You are setting yourselves up for a big big fucking

1:10:02 it's going to hurt. You already have your thirty, forty, fifty thousand dollars worth of student debt this is only good in fact how much you pay back on your student debt will be determined by how you participate in the credit karma system Well, you know we see that you don't really have a job. You're kind of doing some work but you spent a lot on alcohol now We think that you can probably remove some of the alcohol expenditure and we're gonna up the percent of Up your payment that you need to pay monthly for your student loan I was buying for a party man! I was buying for a party! I don't drink that much My time coded that

1:10:39 So that is the danger and that's where we're at. And so it's not going to be like China, it's going to be much worse you're going to be a true slave of your own bank! Of your bank there you go Be warned people I have one question That was good, I think that was very good presentation Thank You I have a question about Millennials just before we take our break Well I have a question for you about your presentation first Oh sure You're a Bitcoin maximalist? What happened to the bitcoin fork. Oh you mean bitcoin cash I don't know what it was called, i can't remember anymore but we talked about when it happened It was a bitcoin fork and then what happened to it? Its still working

1:11:29 Does it work? Yeah, well I mean. I think it's currently at three or four hundred dollars Bitcoin cash But that's a shit coin is not the same It's not the same there really truly is only one cryptocurrency everything else has its own validity but you know you Bitcoin is the indestructible one No One can mess it up bitcoin cash is 313 dollars currently Okay The question I had, you've got Millennials in the house. Oh yeah they're crawling all over the place When they watch television like movies i would say specifically or tv series do they have the closed captions on? Generally no but every once while they do and I usually turn them off but well it's not as though that... They don't..I know what you're saying because I have seen this phenomenon

1:12:24 Where there were they I was once there was a period of time where they had to kept to close captions on for some reason I'm well, why do you ask because? I have that here at home and I this is what you just said as my experience is I flip on to watch something and then I got To turn off the closed captions cuz they're always turned back on And I think this may have started with Game of Thrones. Oh But Millennials, there's another... I think that they're so... Nobody in this house is a good Game of Thrones person. I think a lot of Millennials are so occupied with or distracted by other screens and other things they're doing they can't just sit there and take it in and turn the sound up and enjoy an experience? No, they have to be doing something else. Yeah! So, oh, I miss it. They're getting 70% of the enjoyment

1:13:16 It may just be me. Do you think it's that high? It may just be me, but I'm kind of throwing this out there to see if this is a thing and I've identified this as A Thing and i wanted to know how widespread it is. It has cropped up Yes it has well with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the C in the shit coin John Cena And it is spelled with a C. Well, in the morning you Mr Adam Curry also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there hello trolls in the morning to all of you that's right they are there they're in the troll room no agenda stream calm as where you can troll along with every single episode we do them live we do it live

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1:15:03 Really an old Mike Riley piece. We brought forward I believe or something yeah, he's saying well Maybe I'm thinking of my newsletter because they keep putting the Riley pieces in there Well you had a pretty funny piece which was the The moon landing, the lunar module there and at a buffer service as buffering and there's a buffering indicator because of course well we talked a lot about the transmission of the signals from the moon down to the television signals down to the Moon in the lost tapes. So it fit perfectly with the episode. Thank you very much, Mike! Just one of the many ways that people participate in our Value for Value network You can add value to the show in many many ways and certainly our artists at noagendaartgenerator.com do a great job with that and we thank Mike and everybody else And...and we also thank our executive producers and associate executive producers

1:15:55 I want to say something about the art now that you mention it, because we appreciate art and we have this our theories about why it benefits the show just as standalone stuff. It's a different way of looking at the world but it's also for the artists because there is a lot of work for them because they have to listen to the show which is on real time then gets cranked something out like speed art but... It's like speed dating or you don't get lucky at the end of the day You don't get lucky at the end of day to speed dating from what I understand. So it's like, it's good for the brain to try to conceive art. Interesting point and because it's an exercise because it's not

1:16:39 I mean, it's not normal. It is nonlinear thinking to come up with these art pieces and to get good at it like Martin JJ did out of the blue after working for years and years. It's a it's an exercise in kind of non-linear thinking that once you achieve it, you get...it just very satisfying. I'm absolutely convinced that okay well our artists should let us know if how they feel about these things Some... it's addicting. Roland Costagner, what do you think? Roland Costagner? Hey Roland! He's gonna change his name anyway so that's the good news

1:17:27 He's in Addlestone, UK. $1,000 instant night! We need an instant night jingle And he needs a de-douching Hi John and Adam first thing I need is a de-douching You've been de-douched I've been listening for about a year and half now and thought it was time to chip in It keeps me sane knowing that not everyone out there is beholden to the opinions of the mainstream media and gutter press I like that term. The gutter press, yeah. You get your gutter press and you get your press in the gutter press. Uh, I'd like some health karma and a F karma, F cancer for my mom who has just been diagnosed with lung cancer and also some health and relationship karma for myself and a goat karma as for naming he's going to be in this tonight. He wants to be named sir Raleigh of the way bridge

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1:20:52 Sorry Adam, almost famous again. Anyhow... Thanks for the best damn podcast in the universe confirmed by Mueller and such. Well I will have to correct all of this with my book. I'm writing it! No no, I'm writing it! I'm writing it! You should be writing it, that's good And guess what the title of the book is? Uhh..I Have Hair? Ho ho ho ho! No. Not Bald Yet! No, It's just called Podfather From FM pirate to podcast pioneer. What do you think? Oh, that's a nice little memoir Yeah! Oh yeah It's a memoir and your in it D-Dingo Boom boom shagalackalacka Boom boo boo boom boom Shagalacka Boom boom R E S P I C T Don't laugh Why are you laughing? Shut up You've got karma

1:21:52 You know, these tell-all books ruin relationships. Oh no! It'll ruin our relationship but it's gonna be a great book. Code Monkey Sir Code Monkey as matter of fact from Renner South Dakota $333 Donation from SirCodeMonkey, see mail note from... okay. Yeah I went looking for this- I only have an older one! Oh you have it? Okay. Alright alright alright. While you were doing your thing i was looking it up. Thank you for doing the show ITM gentlemen. I highly enjoy twice a week on Thursdays. I want to call out my brother Joe as a douchebag.

1:22:29 Sorry Joe, but this freeloading has give gone on long enough chip in for goodness sake Can I please get a dealer's choice Sharpton? and a jobs karma as I'm starting a new gig as a database developer, and I want some karma to start me off right. Alright we'll do the mint tulips then. They sitting out on the sidewalk sipping mint tulips! Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs let's vote for jobs It's my new favorite. It is a favorite! That's a good one. Sippin' mint tulips... And by the way, that guy gets paid so much more money than we get paid

1:23:12 Ryan Hedum by MSNBC. Ryan Hedom, $222 and 33 cents. I quit my tech sales. We have a lot of techies, techies. Our dudes named Ben are on today's list as well. And you know they do keep the world running so I'm happy. They keep the show running! No kidding Hello, John and Adam. You don't have to read this all on the show but okay we will I quit my tech sales job and moved out of the poop capital a few weeks ago couldn't be happier was that San Francisco? I'm assuming...I am taking a few months hiatus from work and will be looking to get some more creative career into a more creative career once I return possibly film slash entertainment how about podcasting well

1:24:03 Oh, wait. He said career I'm sorry yes okay got it. I am embarking on a two month long road trip Road Trip! Road Trip! throughout the United States with no real plans and the two of you will be keeping me company during my many hours of driving as a thank-you here are some by the way i have a product...I gotta look it up because I just bought it if you're gonna go on a road trip you should take this with ya It is..and I'll get to details Ranch hand Well I'm not saying you shouldn't take that, but there's... so we have a number of cars in one. It's an old Volkswagen which battery seems to go dead all the time so i bought this thing and thought it was a joke! It's a small battery. It's the size of like three packs or four packs of cigarettes. Oh yeah, you stick it into the cigarette lighter and it starts the car? No no

1:24:59 But you can charge it from the cigarette light. So I'm looking at all my battery chargers, they got different battery charges They always have the same like a 2 amp trickle and 10 amp boost and 50 amp max. Pussy stuff! That's how you start these cars with the thing that plug into wall This is 600 amp battery Amp? Yes Okay... And it's little bitty thing And it's just there's a lot of electronics in here that make it 600 amps. Yeah, you stick it on any I'm telling any car and it doom It just roars to life. You sure? It's not amp hour amps 600 amps okay damn and it does that for a second then you got to charge it up again I guess no No, it'll do 30 starts before you have to charge it up again

1:25:47 It's a miracle. Okay, here is my response to it. It shows up in the mail from Amazon I look at it and said oh! I'm sending this back This ain't gonna start nothing And he says okay well give it a try You know I go out there and the battery is dead so I just hook it up The battery has a boost What kind of Volkswagen is this? Its an old bug A beetle, okay Mexican or US made Mexico So it has the flat screen Doesn't have a flat screen. Oh, I mean the the the I'm sorry my mistake the The calm concave windscreen the ones in Mexico were flat. I think I'm not this is a newer car It's like it 2004 oh I thought it was classic okay? I'm sorry well alright there you go Why don't they're all made me why is the battery dead on that thing that shouldn't be happening doesn't beat its not driven enough ah

1:26:44 So anyway, so this little thing. I hooked this thing up saying, oh no, boom! The things starts up and it not only started, it starts violently. So I get the thing off you know and then run it is fine now but I was really looking at this thing as another piece of crap from China. I'm gonna send it back and it's not a piece of crap for me. It is from China obviously but it's not a piece of crap by any means and it's just remarkable and its' a little bitty thing And it also has phone chargers built into it, which is another thing you'd want to take on the road for. You wanna have this on the road in your trunk if you're driving across country. Do you know what the name of this product is so we can tell everybody? No I don't...I'm not gonna say the name so I can get lots of emails asking me the name! Okay John at Devorah.org Yes. I will have a name before the end of this show Sure. I will because I don't want the emails I just bitched about

1:27:39 Anyway, so he's on okay. We sounded a road trip Thank you for some of my profits from Jeanne energy GNE Hold on hold on it's important because he apparently invested in jeannie energy stock symbol GNE after listening to one of our deconstructions of the pipelines the Leviathan pipelines the Bill Clinton advisorship of genie energy right and I guess when we were talking about it He decided to invest and he made some money on it. It's amazing how that worked out. Now he can float around the country like a maniac, but he needs this battery. But he needs that battery no matter what you do! To all producers I'm embarking on a long trip and want some help. I am starting from Sacramento going south to San Diego then making my way east.

1:28:31 I plan to spend three plus weeks or about three weeks in the southern United States and make my way, you'll love it down there. Make my way to Minnesota's hot especially now over to Washington possibly up to Vancouver. So he is going to loop around the south and go up to Minnesotanuts and then over to Washington to Vancouver? You know what he needs? He needs a battery! Yes. And he needs to hook up to that battery and APRS beacon so we can follow him on the ham radio maps. It has a USB power out. Perfect, perfect get an APRS thing. Yeah good good anyway you could do it easy techie back down in California calling all produce for your help in adding some things to my to-do list I'm a fun 23 year old who loves food nature art music etc and would greatly appreciate some recommendations from my fellow producers My email is

1:29:25 Ryan Hedum, R-Y-A-N-H-E-D-U-M at gmail.com Can I get some travel karma health karma and the luge goat karma? And then he says it'd be in Texas and you can talk to him about that. Oh, he's going to come It'd be in Texas. Oh, you would like to buy you a beer? I doubt that would be an honor Be fantastic and I can see says take you out for a beer but i'm now saying by you a beer okay well um Uh, i'll be able to see when you're coming because you have that aprs beacon flashing everywhere Fantastic cool all right travel karma health karma and luge goat karma uh yeah we can do that and thank you very much and

1:30:05 That's a great American experience. I think it's uniquely American to just get in your car and drive without any real plan necessarily, uh...I've done some of that never really across country but it's very enjoyable and let us know how things are going from time to time. You've got karma! There you go. Geez alright Where were you? We're at Sir Jim Zuckel. He's our last associate executive producer, comes in with 200 bucks and I looked and looked and looked

1:30:47 And I found no notice of the note he wrote in February complaining that he donated eleven hundred dollars and we don't remember his name being mentioned. So apparently this all he cares about instead of writing us a tome, he just wants to make sure his names mentioned. All right. And this since you haven't done this show yet, we're doing it now. Jim, your name's just been mentioned. Yes. And he'll be in for give him a karma. You can use one. Of course we can. You've got Karma. And that will be our associate executive producers and executive producers for show 1056. Yes, 1156 even. 100 shows more! Thank you to our executive producers and associate executive producers it is highly appreciated that you're always here especially in the dog days... we're not even in the dog days of summer yet but it's been a tough one so your support helps the show enormously thank you very much for that

1:31:43 Remember, we do have another show coming up on Sunday. It's the second Thursday show of the week and before I do that... ...I have a special health karma going out to Chris Abraham He is getting what is called a cardioversion which I think he has afib So he says, I'm getting a cardioversion which will turn my afib to sweet sweet sinus rhythm How did they do this? That when your heart goes irregular or speeds up all of sudden Is that what afibrillation is Did you just walk away like, alright I'm done reading that. I'll just go over here and do something else for myself go work on the other podcast with Adam Carolla all right thanks then i wanted to follow all of these jobs karmas etc up with an example of jobs karma working this is anonymous

1:32:33 Although her name is known. Adam just following up, Jobs Karma works! I donated asking for Jarbs...Jarbs? For Jobs Karma a couple of times over the past year during my pilot training My dad even donated and got me cursed with the Trump Nancy jobs karma But ho-ho big news it's not cursed because i just found out I am will be flying the B52 bomber How cool is that? And I want to fly by, fly over Austin with that thing. The B-52 one of our very own producers so one more karma for you just because it's so cool You've got karma Remember we'll be here for another show on Sunday please support us to borac.org slash n a From people roaming around the country to b-52 bomber pilots propagate us! Our formula is this

1:33:30 We go out we hit people in the mouth I Have I have the name of the product? Ah, okay. No, you know what I was up to the tac life T6 car jump starter 600 amp peaks 12-volt battery jumper It'll start up to a 6.2 liter engine it says 5 liter diesel

1:34:10 Battery booster quick charge it doesn't or it doesn't do I'm gonna get one. That's I'm gonna get one of these It's a little fits in a little pack and it goes on your trunk as the TAC K Li F e t6 there's also t8 that's got a little more so at 800 amps if you got a big engine, you gotta definitely turn over It's a little bigger but it's actually the price is only seven bucks more Uh, anyway. Actually I got when I bought it was 56 books somehow it's going up in price typical Amazon, but this is a great product to have as just, you know, instead of jumper cables and worrying about getting jump starts for your old jalopy which cause you want an old car otherwise gonna be tracked. You need this device. You need a jalopy either jalopy plus attack light.

1:35:01 Alright, yeah. That's the no agenda way you got your Nokia e71 You got your jalopy you got your tack light starter your jumper and no friends That's the no agenda way everybody oh my goodness Speaking of old jalopies or leave leaving your jalopy at home the East scooter revolution continues in Austin Texas we've been to pilot City and And although I like the idea of this kind of mobility, it hasn't worked out very well for a lot of people because the rules are unclear and the roads are not set forth. No one's prepared for it. You're getting killed. There were at least eight new lawsuits against scooter companies in Austin all filed within the last several days. Last week riders filed seven separate suits in Travis County against Bird Uber and Lime another lawsuit was filed this week

1:35:52 They all claim negligence, saying riders suffered injuries because of problems with faulty scooter equipment. One suit claims a CapMetro bus ran over a rider's arm when he was thrown from a scooter." Just wait until they all figure out that the end-user license agreement you agreed to when you signed up with the app completely indemnifies those companies from any of your lawsuits Yep. Because that's how it works, and that's how you do it until somebody cracks the code on that. Yeah this will continue if somebody does crack the code and one of these guys get sued out of existence then that'll be the end of it big news way I see it is this has been the same way with software The courts have upheld the EULAs which are onerous and probably illegal well they've been held up by the court clearly not clearly not illegal if the courts upheld them well

1:36:49 Clearly not illegal if the courts upheld them, although as far as I'm concerned they're well they're definitely onerous. Well it's...I went to spin class the other day and so now at the right you know drive downtown and park oh I'm such a suburbanite now! And had a little lunch there Taverna on what is that second street And I get up and I'm done, and there's homeless people standing right in front of me. Panhandlers! I have no idea if these people are homeless. There is a panhandler. They say hey man you got something? No I don't do that anymore. And he starts yelling and I am going to kill you and kill your family. What?! Oh yeah oh yeah. You should get this on tape then take it to the city council. They don't care

1:37:46 Okay, you know the City Council meetings I find that are always on Thursdays. This is very annoying and if you want a Thursday day Yes They are on Thursday day And if you want to speak they only allow ten people of the public to speak at each meeting and yeah There's a calendar you sign up it well that signed up forever You can't get in on that this it's undemocratic here in Austin some Democratic Well, I'm glad to see you had the experience of a guy cussing you out for not giving him money. There you go there's your future dystopia. Yeah no tents on the sidewalks yet though even though it's legal i haven't seen those yet but Austin is going down with that meanwhile over in the Euro land well I guess they got their gender balance all set up as they voted

1:38:41 Wanderlei, is that her name? Let me see... I think that's her name isn't it. Ursula! That's right. Ursula van der Leyen And she has been confirmed as the next president of the Starfleet Command, known as the EU Commission. Right well the magic number for Ursula von der Leyen was to get 374 MEPs on side 383 did get on side with her she made the threshold by just nine votes there was a lot of promises made in the speech she gave to Parliament earlier on Tuesday morning. She made a lot of promises about green policies she wanted to try and re-enact, some have said that she promised far too much things that she can't possibly deliver

1:39:29 but those were the promises she made. She also made promises on the Dublin Treaty to do with asylum in the EU and who has the responsibility to take care of those who seek asylum here, again another big issue that many people want to see reform on but does she have the ability to do it? She made those promises anyway. So, she got those people on side that were needed initially we had thought that the Greens were going to vote against her far left and the far right in the parliament were going to vote against her. It does seem like she might have won round some of those green voters this is what Ursula von der Leyen had to say though as she accepted uh... the role as the first woman to be the European Commission president

1:40:14 I thank all the members of Parliament who decided to vote for me today But my message to all of you is let us work together Constructively because the endeavor is a united a strong Europe. Thank you very much Right Ursula von de Leon, that's her name Thanks troll room So finally a German once again running the German Empire. Shocker! Frans Timmermans, the Dutch guy who a lot thought would be the frontrunner and we hoped so because he was you know... We know the guy I know I know the guy I was like maybe I can get an interview with him someday uh so he was cut out Sure? He's not German. No he's not even close

1:41:06 He said something stupid the other day. Oh yeah, so now all of a sudden he's got a big mouth I guess he's out...I don't know if he has any position you know? I think it's just out altogether for the time being I have to look that up but now he's got a big mouth and can say whatever he wants So now he is doing interviews about Brexit and how well it was crazy when they came over They had no plan here he is We thought oh but they're so brilliant They will have some in some vault somewhere in Westminster that will be, you know, Harry Potter-like with all the tricks and all the things they need to do. And then the first time I saw public utterances by David Davis and I saw him not coming, not negotiating grandstanding elsewhere thought my god they haven't got a plan

1:41:55 They haven't got a plan. That was really shocking, frankly because then the damage if you don't have a plan and that You know we see it that times running out you don't have a plan You know it's like Lance Corporal Jones. You know don't panic don't panic running around like idiots So he makes a reference there Do you know the reference Lance Corporal Jones? Don't panic don't panic No, I do not. It's a 1960s TV show known as Dad's Army. Don't panic! Don't panic! Mr. Manorin don't panic anybody Only people 50 and above who lived in the UK or well the Netherlands aired it too would know what that is What is he thinking? Wow that's a callback that's obscure 60s TV show which wasn't even all that funny

1:42:48 I don't know, man. Nope but maybe it's... That is bad! Yeah? I mean i use a few-I do-i'll do a callback not that bad but i'll do some call back to some F Troop or something. That's really bad. Just because I know the truth. The F Troop is also quite bad. It's also quite bad. Let's get a kick out of it. Hey there's something that I just wanted to deconstruct and I have an opinion really one way the other but there's a lot of misinformation about first responders fund that Jon Stewart has been around talking about and trying to he's been in Congress. He spoke, he's very good... The one that the squad voted against?

1:43:26 Did the squad vote against it? I think most of them did, yeah. Well here he is on Fox News complaining bitterly after the latest round of discussions of this bill Yeah this is what The Washington Post says about this fund This says that the fund provides money to those who have contracted diseases that have been linked to exposure to toxic debris in the aftermath of September 11th attacks which we knew. Under current law, the fund is scheduled to stop taking claims in December 2020 The new legislation would extend the program for seven decades at an estimated cost of $10.2 billion for the first decade Here's how Senator Paul said it on the floor today

1:44:03 Any new spending that we are approaching, any new program that's going to have the longevity of 70-80 years should be offset by cutting spending that is less valuable. We need at the very least have this debate I will be offering up an amendment if this bill should come to the floor but until then i will object John Stewart your reaction. It's it's absolutely outrageous and you'll pardon me if I'm not impressed in any way by Rand Paul's fiscal responsibility virtue signaling Rand Paul presented tissue paper avoidance of the 1.5 trillion dollar tax cut that added hundreds of billions of dollars to our deficit and now he stands up at the last minute after 15 years a blood sweat and tears from the 9-11 community, to say that it's all over now we're going to balance the budget on the backs of the 911 first responder community Brett this is about what kind of society do we have? At some point

1:45:02 We have to stand up for the people who have always stood up for us. And at this moment in time, maybe cannot stand up for themselves due to their illnesses and injuries. And what Rand Paul did today on the Senate was outrageous! He is a guy that put us in hundreds of billions of dollars in debt, he was the 51st vote on that cut and now he's going to tell us $1 billion over 10 years is just too much for us to handle? You know there are some things they have no trouble putting on the credit card But somehow when it comes to the 9-11 first responder community, the cops, the firefighters, the construction workers, the volunteers, the survivors all of a sudden man we gotta go through this. Here's the problem I have with what is going on here because i just really want to look into it It is not the First Responders Fund its not what its called Its the 911 Victims Fund

1:45:58 And you and I discussed at great length that we remember this going on in the early days of the show when they brought in that's the special as a name, there is a manager. The special manager of the 9-11 victims fund and he had seven and half billion dollars to hand to victims of 9 11 which includes anyone who was injured killed etc harmed physically by 9-11 attacks, including first responders. It's not just first responders it's also people a lot of Wall Street people perished during that so he's making it sound as if it's only about the first responders

1:46:46 And this is not a standalone bill. This has been in place and for the past 18 years people were paid an average of $200,000 per year and this addition which re-ups it for another 70 years takes it up to 2090 or 2089 I think Is in addition to US Code 40101 And what is happening now is descendants, so the way it's set up now as you can no longer submit any claims after 2020. The bill opens that up and allows descendants of the victims of 9-11

1:47:35 to also participate in the program. The estimation is it could wind up being 500,000 people who ultimately over this 90-year period will be receiving $200,000 per year in compensation which will be adjusted and that's also new will be adjusted for inflation At what point, I mean so the taxpayers are paying for this. It's not just for first responders it's for all victims and their descendants. I think Rand Paul has a valid point as to well that's what I don't think he worded it correctly but at what point do we stop? Where does it stop

1:48:23 and is the American taxpayer, are we supposed to be the only ones for this? I understand First Responder. I have a different response to the First Responder Fund. I think we need to pay firemen and policemen a hell of a lot more than were paying you maybe paid them 200 grand per year instead of doing that after-the-fact but there's some validity to it and I think Jon Stewart's not being completely honest by calling it The First Responders Fund It's just not true And there's a lot of very wealthy families who are receiving this money as well, from you know, a lot of Wall Street people. So I don't really have an issue with it certainly not the amount of money 100 billion over 10... Do you think he is just being dishonest on purpose or do you think he is being misled? Or do you think he is just being naive or a do-gooder? What is his motive? I really don't know that's why its kind of baffling to me

1:49:20 Because there's a lot of people who, let me just take this, descendants of slavery. Let's give them some money! You know it's at a certain point where does it end and where does it start? And what are the rules of the road for compensation of these types of issues or is it to shut people up I mean that I'm just saying it's a conspiracy thought Keep people shutting up about anything that happened because that is if you accept the money You can't do anything. You can't take anyone to court It's over and I remember this because we talked at great length it was a it was difficult, I remember the guy Was trying what his name? He was famous guy who came in too

1:50:02 Who was giving up the initial 7.6 billion dollars, it's just you know Somethings off about this and I haven't quite figured it out But Stewart must have some something in this besides just first Maybe he's just blind to the what's really going on and why does he not call at the victims fund? Why is he keep saying its only first responders when it's just not And that's a rhetorical question. I really don't have an answer well, I think it's something you're gonna have to watch Yeah, threw it out there just for people to think about But it's very odd is very odd and Rand Paul of course now looks like a total dick because the way he always looks like a total dick It's fine. He does have that quality about him

1:50:57 You know just you know, but as a society we also need to think maybe it's better to pay people more for dangerous jobs they do But you know the victims should we just go to Saudi Arabia? Should me can we get the money from them seeing is most of them were from Saudi Arabia and most of the so-called hijackers I think that's a good idea. Yeah It's like why does have to come out of taxpayers pockets for descendants for the neck longer than I will be alive You know, I had...I mean I didn't have physical harm. I had all kinds of issues. An entire helicopter company went down the tubes after 9-11 you know it's like alright you know anyway again i have no real opinion. Yeah, you're just befuddled. I am befuddled as the correct word. This is a moment of show befuddlement. I'm befuddled by this maybe someone can help

1:51:52 No, I'd like to talk. I'd like to talk of you I have a bunch of clips about the incident that took place in Congress that to me was very historical Okay There was a number of things that I've never seen happen before there were it was just it was funny In some ways this is where Pelosi comes out and calls Donald Trump or racist. Oh yes, I agree with this mm-hmm They basically stopped a show For two or three hours, they just stopped the show because of one guy saying to take her words down. She leaves the place she's not supposed to. She violates the rules of this of the house over and over again and so does everybody else

1:52:33 is being violated constantly. And the guy who's running the show, the speaker at that time Evans I think is his name he's from St Louis. He gave up! He threw down the gravel Down to gravel, but let's listen to the how that part started. Well actually let's start with I have a bunch of clips here now Can I just say something? I saw the whole thing. I don't think a single So-called news program showed the actual clip of Pelosi's violation They all showed the end where people are getting all rowdy But when she actually called the president racist they didn't air that most of the time

1:53:20 No, what's the point? The problem is they gave her one minute. In fact I have the list start with the Pelosi clip. They gave her one minute. I gave her 1 minute she talked for 7 minutes Yak yak yak yak yak and I kind of have it summarized, and then yeah this is the main incident So she's talking like obviously clipped it quite a bit. I put I sped it up and Favorite the guy got the guy at the end And then they shut down to shut down the house, and I kept the tape going waiting for him To come back C-SPAN turned off the mics

1:53:57 Well, it's because there was nothing going on and they were trying to fill because it was just dead air. But here it is incident Pelosi won Speaker I now yield one minute to the distinguished speaker of the house The distinguished speaker of the house has recognized Thank you very much Mr. Speaker I thank the gentleman for yielding I thank him for his leadership in so many ways in this Congress Mr. I went to Spanish Mass this weekend and saw the dignity Of those families The beauty of the children and the fear that the president had struck in their hearts. The words that were used, go home to some of our colleagues as he wants to split up families. These comments from the White House are disgraceful and disgusting and these comments are racist."

1:55:07 forcefully to join us in condemning the president's racist tweets. to do anything less would be a shocking rejection of our values and a shameful abdication of our oath of office to protect the American people. I urge an unanimous vote and yield back the balance of my vote. I was just going to give the general speaker of the house if she would like to rephrase that comment? I have cleared my remarks as a parliamentarian before i read them Can I ask that words be taken down? I make a point of order. The gentlewoman's words are unparliamentary and risky, ready to be taken down.

1:55:48 Please, please do not make comments toward personality based comments. The gentleman from Georgia is recognized. I made a point of order to this gentlewoman's unparliamentary and request that it be taken down. Is the gentleman making a demand that the words be taken down? I request that the gentlewoman's words are unparliamentary and requested they be taken down Speaker, all members will suspend. I don't want to interrupt your presentation. I just have two comments one the whole issue here is that you are not allowed to call members in chamber any kind of name be disparaging against him and the president by definition is represented there

1:56:31 Two, just before that the Democrats had done the same shit the Republicans asking for parliamentary inquiry and to strike words from the record for the very same reasons. What I'm not hearing is Pelosi say Trump is racist he said racist tweets his racist tweets so I'll step back That's all true now This resulted in, let's see I gotta get these low. These are not into right order. These are, let's see random violation okay we got that

1:57:09 There's a bunch of these by the way. Here is an incident Congress, where he comes back finally after two hours plus and the chair comes up and says this is the incident congress for abandoned. This happens. I came here to try do this on fairway. I kept warning both sides let us not do it hoping we could get through. Mr. Japal had situation where we could be in hit on another motion take down words of a friend of mine, but we don't ever ever want to pass up it seems an opportunity to escalate and that's what this is. I'll dare anybody to look at any footage and see if there was any unfairness but unfairness is not enough because we want to just fight abandon the chair. I like that toss the gravel its gavel people we know what we call it a gravel

1:58:07 He throws the gravel down and walks off. Now, oh my god now what do we do? So they bring another guy up but he never does anything and then we wait another I don't know how long it was hour And all of a sudden Hoyer comes up who's the majority leader of the Democrats Steny Hoyer comes up and he does this, and he says the following incident Congress ruling that Hoyer last. Chair is prepared to rule. The words of the gentlewoman from California contain an accusation of racist behavior on the part of the president as memorialized in Daschle's precedents chapter 29 section 65 point 6 characterization characterizing an action as racist is not in order

1:59:01 The chair relies on the precedent of May 15th, 1984 and finds that the words should not be used in debate. What purpose does a gentleman from Georgia rise? Mr. Speaker I have motion at the desk. Clerk will report the motion. Mr. Collins of Georgia moves that the words of the gentlewoman from California be stricken from the record. Question is on the motion all those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye! Opposed nay. The nays have it Oh, so there was previous rules on the books specifically about calling an action racist. Yes I didn't realize okay so that makes sense So she broke the rule? But she broke the rule and of course they backed her up anyway but the thing was there were two other ones have to other clips are in their only here for the entertainment value yeah ah and they both could have been called out for the exact same thing nothing happened

2:00:03 It's as if Doug Collins just waited for Pelosi to do it because these two are actually, one of the two are worse than Pelosi. This is the incident there's a random violation of the same rule by Bonnie Watson. Oops sorry. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to call out the blatant racism in the President's tweets. I believe his rant and his defense of that rant merit censure from this body The phrase go back where you came from is a racist trope that has been used by segregationists neo-nazis white nationalists and Ku Klux Klansmen To create a framework in which nonwhite people are not truly American

2:00:43 Describing non-white countries as broken and crime infested echoes the racist trope the president has used before that such countries are dysfunctional, dirty and violent because their populations are black. His comments are indefensible and so is the silence from my colleagues across the aisle. I wouldn't bother seeking an apology from him, but I do hope Republicans here will join us in fully and roundly condemning his words – and I'd remind them that history won't look kindly on those who refuse to stand up for what is right It is not lost on me, however—and I hope not my colleagues either—that this is simply a distraction from the President's friendship with the documented pedophile and news reports that he lied to the Supreme Court about his census question. With that, I yield back.

2:01:45 Yeah, you let that one slide. But wait a minute! Incident another violation? See this is the clip three and here on the floor outside of view the gallery filling with people watching what's a fairly unusual process here in the house. The cameras showing the floor are controlled by the U.S House not by C-SPAN Speaker Pelosi's comments are under review by the House after Georgia Republican... But the point is that there was three people that did this very negative action saying he should be censored. They never did censor him, they just...

2:02:20 scolded him, supposedly for these violations by calling out this four Congresswoman. The whole thing though I was watching and you saw most of it. Yeah It was very...I thought it was a...I'm watching kind of crazy kind of wacky history guy throws down the gravel stomps out Pelosi leaves when she's supposed to stay The whole thing was hilarious. You know, I... What a waste of time is what I thought. No kidding! And what a waste of great C-SPAN airtime Well, I'm sure they weren't happy about it because when he when they said that we shall cease after Collins calls for her taking down the thing. They stopped and they stopped the show for two hours. I'm sitting there with a recorder going because I actually got up and left into something else figuring out come back and see how much time there was so I could report on the time accurately. And it was still going blank. And so I think oh, I had to stop it

2:03:18 Wait, well you said it right there. You said they stopped the show That's exactly what it is Show business for ugly people and that some of them to these days aren't even that ugly It's an embarrassment It's just an embarrassment And they're people calling Trump racist in the chamber all the time All the time but now now he had to go after Pelosi. It's just Look kind of haggard too Well, Nancy's having a hard time. She's having a real hard time. She can't reel that she doesn't have the skillset. She can keep it all together. She is getting old and she doesn't have the skill set to deal with these four, this squad. What skillset do you need? Sorry? What skillset do you need to handle them? I don't know. I don't have it.

2:04:17 I mean, here's you're not old enough to be speaker. Damn it That's your problem have a clip from a couple shows ago Pelosi and AOC battle which kind of describes is too long It's a long clip Sorry But when she had when she had the just AOC did contend with it was one thing but now this squad These four women have ganged up on Pelosi. For the House Speaker, a difficult issue I said what i'm going to say on this subject That was yesterday when Nancy Pelosi was asked about the public airing of what had been mostly private frustrations in her caucus Those began months ago, as a group of new members including New York's Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez pushed openly for the party to move more to the left. At one point she protested in Pelosi's office for her sweeping progressive Green New Deal.

2:05:05 Pelosi reached out, offering Ocasio-Cortez a spot on the new climate change committee. But she turned it down pointing out that the temporary committee had fewer powers than others soon Ocasio Cortes and three other freshmen women of color emerged as a tight vocal group of activist members but they did not openly break with Pelosi until this month As Congress heard more news of child deaths and poor treatment of migrants at the border, Democrats initially passed legislation to force better conditions. But that bill hit a wall in the Senate. We already have our compromise So Pelosi compromised agreeing to a more generic border funding bill that didn't require better treatment The motion is adopted The only Democrats voting no? Those same four freshmen sometimes called the squad

2:06:00 And Ocasio-Cortez's office went further. Her chief of staff raised race in a tweet that attacked moderate Democrats, writing... That seems to be the only thing left in America —in political America— if you have no argument just call that person a racist It's... ugh. He deleted it! If it didn't work, they wouldn't do it Well, it doesn't seem to work. It just doesn't! They think it works I mean if you're outside the bubble... If you're in the harsh bubble The same bubble that was showing in the tweets against Jake Tapper's theory That showed up on Twitter If you are in that bubble, its working great If your in the Rob Reiner bubble

2:07:01 Right, but it doesn't have any actual effect on the outcome. George W Bush still became president... They believe it does! They think it's working great and is going to get rid of this guy These four women need to go review the history books It just doesn't really work that well One has been reading a lot about Marshal Luther King Martha You know, the way I actually saw this come down was a little different. They called Pelosi a racist because she has to be very careful what she says about women of color and even after all of this they went on with Gayle King and I think it was

2:07:44 I don't know if it was Tlaib or Presley who said, well you know she has to be really careful Pelosi saying things about women of color because we get death threats. You know it's like and I thought Trump went in actually to draw fire away from Pelosi! I thought he was being chivalrous at first like oh that's kind of nice yeah he's like giving Pelosi a break but then it turns out he was pulling everybody into make them all look stupid anyway Do you need the rest of this clip because um see where it goes those words But a few days later Pelosi told The New York Times the group made themselves irrelevant saying there are four people and that's how many votes they got

2:08:26 Then, on Wednesday, Pelosi went behind closed doors with her caucus making an extraordinary plea for unity. At one point saying that members should come to her with complaints not tweet about one another but the squad of four felt they were being wrongly scolded and Ocasio-Cortez told The Washington Post it was just outright disrespectful the explicit singling out of newly elected women of color That comment resonated with another prominent Democrat, Progressive Caucus leader Pramila Jayapal who also said I don't think the speaker is used to having a group of members who has bigger Twitter followings than her. Which brings us back to Pelosi's response. At the request of my members an offensive

2:09:11 tweet that came out of one of the members offices that referenced our blue dogs and our new Dems essentially as segregationist. Our members took offense at that, I addressed that we respect the value of every member of our caucus The diversity of it all is a wonderful thing Diversity is our strength. Unity is our power and we have a big fight, and we're in the arena And that's all I'm going to say on the subject this all goes deeper than large personalities at odds Pelosi's Democrats have real policy divides between moderates many of whom are invulnerable districts and Progressives who are not it's a fight not just about who Democrats are but what they want to do

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2:10:51 He's that didn't hurt first time donor. Keep up the awesome work guys In case you're wondering this is my $3 show times 33 shows donation nice Thank you, and what's karma for everybody will put that at the end then we had a group of donation with some interesting stuff Which I'm trying to decide what to do with this don't have it in front of me But I have in front of me the Atlanta meetup Yeah, I have a note. Did you have something else to say about it? I'm just going to read the note. The Atlanta meetup contributed $108. Now they sent a white red book

2:11:30 It filled with a bunch of comments, which I'll read some of them on the upcoming shows. Five different people that were there and it's actually kind of cute because it wastes the whole book and I'm thinking how to do this without just squandering as somebody one of our producers did send a note in saying something about saving pages Unless if I have it here, I might. Well let me read the report from Sir Victor of Alabamia, baronet of the Talladega range John Adam here's an unofficial report from this week's Atlanta meetup at The Punch Bowl Social at Battery Park which is the venue for The Atlanta Braves we had at least 15 attendees and the photo was attached notice the Adam & John heads on a stick in the back row it's a meet up requirement

2:12:17 We naturally broke up into three to four small groups where someone would hold forth. My favorite conversation was our submariner explaining the issues with the Iranian Navy and their diesel submarines in the Persian Gulf." We had a $50 anonymous cash contribution that is already in the mail to the PO box. Another great meetup, more than half of the attendees were at their first No Agenda event and I guess everyone had a good time because you could all sit down chat about anything you want without anyone getting triggered! Indeed anyway so the idea might be too you get one these little books everyone signs and puts a little comment

2:12:57 You then, this is my recommendation. You then photocopy the pages of those write-ups there's not that many more than 10 or 20 and this like about ten on this one And then you send those in as a PDF or file of some sort. Keep the book for the next meetup that you're going to have because most of these, like Atlanta 404 is going to have more than a few meetups. Yeah. Keep the book and just keep filling until it's about at least halfway full then send it off. Exactly. Exactly. Very good. That's my recommendation.

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2:18:44 On the 27th of July, Buffalo New York and Frisco Texas. July 28 Central Florida August 1st Seattle Washington July 2nd through the 4th in Ravensburg Ravensburg Germany I gotta look up on the calendar to get the details on that Orange County California August 3rd Murfreesboro in Tennessee August 9th Chicago August 10th August 18th this is a new entry Victoria BC Be another great place to go August 22nd Charleston, South Carolina and August 23rd Salem Oregon and a Reminder that let me see the July 26 meetup in Portland will be attended by the shill Eric the shill and the shills wife and the shield shield children children the children there you go and on August 18th we're not sure if

2:19:39 You are attending, but Mimi the illustrious Mimi and the Shill's wife and the Children will be attending the Victoria BC meetup. Are you going to go? Well I haven't made plans for it this is news to me! You have to hear it through the show what your family's doing. Yeah geez yeah! I'd love that If you want to know more about any of these meetups where you can go meet like-minded people, even if people with different backgrounds and different ideas but you're not going to trigger anyone. This is what is amazing about these meetups as people go and chat have a good time and have a drink and exchange ideas no one gets angry or get into fistfights it hasn't happened in 11 years we haven't had eleven years of meet ups but It just doesn't happen! I mean its a lot more civil than the US government

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2:23:22 You have a half-a-million people who want to storm the place. A million and a half? Why doesn't the government set up shop and charge them $100 each, bring them in on a bus give them a full tour and take him out Well probably because no one is actually going to go Well I think if they were gonna give it a tour...I might go! I don't know if I'd pay 100 bucks a little steep but I think these most of these people would pay a hundred bucks. I remember our producers in Utah when I did the Utah meet up about four or five years ago and that they had seen really weird stuff out there, I got to go back and listen that episode i forgot but they were contractors and they worked on one of the hangers and gosh do you remember what it was?

2:24:05 You were saying weird things, saucers. No it wasn't saucers. Aliens! I stayed away from the story until i got this Fox News report with a kicker It was a joke but one the Air Force is taking seriously A Facebook post and avowed fake designed to get likes announced a plan to raid the Air Force Base in Nevada known as Area 51 which has been at the center of UFO and alien conspiracy theories for decades. More than 1 million people have signed up for the Storm Area 51, They Can't Stop All Of Us event slated for late September in which The Post declares we can move faster than their bullets let's see them aliens it's been enough to spook the air force

2:24:49 which doesn't use the term Area 51 to describe the 2.9 million acre live fire training range, the largest in the United States located at Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada One of many reasons air force officials don't want people to trespass on the base they're worried some might be killed quote any attempt to illegally access military installations or military training areas is dangerous It's not clear the 1.1 million Facebook followers who said they are going to storm Area 51 are real and not Russian bots I mean really? Now they're Russian bots?! What!? That is lame! It's not clear whether they're real or Russian bots Oh please... Ugh... Elise, my stepdaughter she got green pointy nails She says I'm ready

2:25:45 It's because she sign up no of course not it's just a thing now. It's a thing it's like the face app, but sir these are all Psychologically mentally controlled children who are doing whatever the phone tells them to do Phone tells me to move I'm not kidding. I'm showing off my nails yeah, I'm part of that club oh well Well there you have it. Yeah all right what else we got here today? We got a bunch of stuff, there's some interesting news coming out Kevin Spacey charges are dropped yeah that uh this is kind of sad because well I followed this story and i guess what turns out is that they figured out that this kid maybe had uh you know had texted his friends that you know some information that would have

2:26:40 would have been exculpatory, i.e., would have proven that it didn't happen and they deleted those and they manipulated screenshots... Yes I get it, you have a clip Oh! That's what- I should just stop Let me see..I presume it would be called Kevin Spacey Yes, got it. Prosecutors dropping charges against actor Kevin Spacey something his attorney called for in court last week This case needs to be dismissed and I believe it needs to be dismissed today The state of Massachusetts dropping a Nantucket case due to the unavailability Of the complaining witness that witness a young man who was 18 when he worked as a busboy at this Nantucket restaurant His mother told me in 2017 that spacey assaulted her son It wasn't until Kevin Spacey

2:25:45 It's because she sign up no of course not it's just a thing now. It's a thing it's like the face app, but sir these are all Psychologically mentally controlled children who are doing whatever the phone tells them to do Phone tells me to move I'm not kidding. I'm showing off my nails yeah, I'm part of that club oh well Well there you have it. Yeah all right what else we got here today? We got a bunch of stuff, there's some interesting news coming out Kevin Spacey charges are dropped yeah that uh this is kind of sad because well I followed this story and i guess what turns out is that they figured out that this kid maybe had uh you know had texted his friends that you know some information that would have

2:26:40 would have been exculpatory, i.e., would have proven that it didn't happen and they deleted those and they manipulated screenshots... Yes I get it, you have a clip Oh! That's what- I should just stop Let me see..I presume it would be called Kevin Spacey Yes, got it. Prosecutors dropping charges against actor Kevin Spacey something his attorney called for in court last week This case needs to be dismissed and I believe it needs to be dismissed today The state of Massachusetts dropping a Nantucket case due to the unavailability Of the complaining witness that witness a young man who was 18 when he worked as a busboy at this Nantucket restaurant His mother told me in 2017 that spacey assaulted her son It wasn't until Kevin Spacey

2:27:27 put his hand inside his pants. that he really knew he was in trouble. You say, he didn't consent to that? Absolutely not! How long does it take for you to notice this? The teen sent a Snapchat video of the alleged incident to his girlfriend and texted with friends but last week at a hearing his attorney said after police reviewed the phone it went missing Your Honor we could not locate the phone Spacey's attorney asked if the accuser had deleted messages I don't believe so he said but his mother later admitted she did delete some content At the hearing, the alleged victim stopped answering questions asserting his right against self-incrimination. If you turn any evidence in and in this case it was electronic in furtherance of a criminal investigation and you altered that in itself is a crime

2:28:19 Yeah, well Kevin Spacey definitely has some odd quirky behavior to his name But this is he's a I would say to a degree. He's a victim of the Me Too movement No, I would agree although they still have charges supposedly supposedly in LA and London Oh, but they have not been made oh okay? I just have three- Three may fold up that the whole thing may fold up shop I mean, I think the early assertions we had with this is really all about Trump. Yeah and it's since they got the Weinstein guy out of the way and everything in that Trump thing is not sticking well let's try something new and let's go after us make Trump a pedophile! Let's just take to the next level so I have two Epstein clips if you want to hear them yeah as a lead-in into that? No, I don't have a lead-in anything

2:29:13 I just wanted to mention that Vanity Fair, people read Vanity Fair. It's a...I'd say they're...I don't know how fair Vanity Fair is but when Vanity Fair... It's not fair but it's well written Well written and well-read Quote this is the headline, "...is going to be staggering the amount of names as the Jeffrey Epstein case grows more grotesque Manhattan and DC brace for impact And the article talks about hundreds, if maybe not thousands of names who may be implicated once the cases are opened up. Doesn't some of this happen today on a show day? Of course!

2:29:57 I think some of it does. Maybe, maybe not all I know is you know my position on this nobody's gonna be in because there's nothing to this. The guy is a creep and that's about it and there's a lot of voluntary action going on. This is just again anti-Trump thing going on and it's not gonna help anybody but that's just me now Epstein at Party NBC There are two clips they have both from NBC. NBC dredged up 1992 video of when he had Mar-a-Lago was not fully built out as a resort. It was just something Trump owned, it was a party house and he introduced the party with the folks down in Palm Beach. Is Epstein four feet tall? Epstein is apparently quite diminutive. He's not petite male. No I don't think so...He looks like a Formula One driver you know what i mean with that big head skinny body yeah it's like I'm not impressive at all

2:30:56 Well, so this is 1992 which is 27 years ago. And then they've also with some mentioned that they try to make it sound like was yesterday and Trump's his pal even though Trump has said he hasn't talked to him for 15 years they can't find any evidence that he's even talked about him even just in any way since 2002 which is 17 years ago. So there just trying out God there's gotta be some way you can end as you heard on Congress did that woman on the floor of Congress this woman, Bonnie Watson go on and on about Trump being a pedophile. Which was you know the chair goes I don't do that again. It's not a problem yeah so let's go with Epstein at party NBC

2:31:39 Mar-a-Lago was Trump's South Florida party palace, one frequented by Jeffrey Epstein who is facing charges for sex trafficking. He has pleaded not guilty The president says his relationship with Epstein was no different than anyone else in their elite circle Well I knew him like everybody in Palm Beach knew him he was a fixture in Palm Beach I don't think I've spoken to them for 15 years so...I wasn't a fan Yet, a tape in the NBC archives of a Mar-a-Lago party shows Trump giving Epstein his personal attention. The footage shot in November of 1992 before Trump opened the resort as a club shows the future president surrounded by cheerleaders for the Buffalo Bills and Miami Dolphins.

2:32:28 capturing Trump's fun-loving bachelor lifestyle for an appearance on Faith Daniels NBC talk show. You're going to get great ratings in your show! Trump is surrounded by women as music blares in the background after a while, Trump goes to greet three new guests Among them, the financier Jeffrey Epstein. More than a decade before his guilty plea on state prostitution charges Later in the footage Trump is seen talking to Epstein and another man as women are dancing in front of him Trump alternates between dancing and pointing out women to Epstein and the other man And telling Epstein about the cameras

2:33:09 Though exactly what they say is difficult to understand as they discuss the women and their appearances. You know, I'm sorry just quick stop I saw the video, it's not clear he is pointing out women and their appearances. It's not clear he is talking to anybody about their appearance or anything... You're right! This is bull crap! And let's mention something else this was a staged event for a television show where you talk to someone and make them look like they are busy They brought in these people, it doesn't mean he knows any of them. This was staged by NBC for one of their talk shows so NBC could have invited the cheerleaders in and then another thing they could do and they probably did since they're filming it directing it

2:34:04 Okay, talk to this guy. Make it look like you're talking to him and shake his hand! Go over there now dance with the girls? Let's just take another analogy from NBC which they do to this day when that news program is over What do you do? You take your papers and go, okay I'm shuffling my- they're empty. Shuffling my papers and pretending to talk to my cohost. Well that was a blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah It is totally done for the camera! It's staged bullcrap and yes, NBC did it!

2:34:44 And then now they're exposing it. They say, it's difficult to understand as they discuss the women and their appearances Trump gestures to one and appears to say to Epstein look at her back there she's hot And then, Trump says something else into Epstein's ear that makes him double over with laughter. But as the president says now he never liked Epstein I was not a fan of his That i can tell you...I was not a fan of his Wow! You get a borderline for that one Borderline! Put up with the pain

2:35:21 Wasn't full borderline because I'd seen most of this reporting, but I hadn't seen this particular report He appears to say something that he's here. Hey, I got it. I got a six-year-old I've got a six year old Jeff is great Look at these NBC doofuses with the camera they're recording everything we dude there so stupid probably what? It's called b-roll people And that was B-roll. So Epstein update trying to implicate Trump, they push it a little further in this report which is on the night. No! Further? Oh this is great. Also being talked about tonight some video shot by NBC News 27 years ago that offers a glimpse into the past relationship

2:34:44 And then now they're exposing it. They say, it's difficult to understand as they discuss the women and their appearances Trump gestures to one and appears to say to Epstein look at her back there she's hot And then, Trump says something else into Epstein's ear that makes him double over with laughter. But as the president says now he never liked Epstein I was not a fan of his That i can tell you...I was not a fan of his Wow! You get a borderline for that one Borderline! Put up with the pain

2:35:21 Wasn't full borderline because I'd seen most of this reporting, but I hadn't seen this particular report He appears to say something that he's here. Hey, I got it. I got a six-year-old I've got a six year old Jeff is great Look at these NBC doofuses with the camera they're recording everything we dude there so stupid probably what? It's called b-roll people And that was B-roll. So Epstein update trying to implicate Trump, they push it a little further in this report which is on the night. No! Further? Oh this is great. Also being talked about tonight some video shot by NBC News 27 years ago that offers a glimpse into the past relationship

2:36:02 between President Trump and Jeffrey Epstein, who is now facing new sex trafficking charges. NBC's Stephanie Goss has details. A 1992 party at Mar-a-Lago Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein shared a joke...and a laugh NFL cheerleaders danced among the crowd. The video from NBC's archives was shot more than a decade before Epstein served 13 months in Florida jail for procuring a minor for prostitution Last week after Epstein pleaded not guilty to new federal sex trafficking charges, the president characterized their relationship

2:36:38 People in Palm Beach knew him. He was a fixture in Palm Beach I had a falling out with him a long time ago, I don't think I've spoken to him for 15 years so...I wasn't a fan But in 2002 magazine article Trump called Epstein a terrific guy Adding it is even said he likes beautiful women as much as I do Hold on stop stop we gotta stop We have the back up and deconstruct this because this is interesting He says I haven't talked to him for fifteen year I'm not a fan. Yeah, and then she uses the word but Now you use the word but in this sense to negate the previous yes didn't again it to negate He said this butt well The butt is from 2002 17 years ago and he hasn't talked to him for 15 years so how is this a butt oh? My goodness

2:37:39 Seriously, who are they trying to fool at NBC with this package? Why don't they show a video of Ehud Barak from Israel entering and leaving Epstein's Manhattan townhouse with at the same time multiple young women. You know, there's pictures. It's being... it's in some print pieces. It's online but no they won't do anything about that and that's- Oh! It's not Trump I know. Hey who Barack? Who gives a shit? TRUMP! Uh i had a falling out with him a long time ago. I don't think I've spoken to him for 15 years uh I wasn't a fan

2:38:18 But in a 2002 magazine article, Trump called Epstein a terrific guy. Adding it is even said he likes beautiful women as much as I do and many of them are on the younger side On Thursday, a federal judge will decide if Epstein gets out on bail Prosecutors have argued He is both a risk to the public and a flight risk, citing his more than $500 million wealth. Piles of cash loose diamonds and an expired foreign passport under a different name but with Epstein's photo His residence listed as Saudi Arabia The defense team said the passport was acquired from Austria in the 80s for personal protection when Epstein traveled in the Middle East, stating their client was concerned about kidnappers hijackers or terrorists. Tonight decades later Epstein's fate is in the hands of a federal judge Stephanie Goss NBC News New York All right let's I want to mention something here this is just a hit piece it's a piece of crap

2:39:19 If the Saudi Arabian passport and his excuse for having it is valid as far as I'm concerned, if it was a valid passport today then it would mean something. But its an expired old passport that apparently he kept for some reason thats useless so why is even in the report? Its not- It's immaterial They're just trying to build this nonsense case. And it's like, but it's not really trying to build a case they're trying to make and Saudi Arabia of course was mentioned for a reason. Oh yeah! That's the reason you bring it in because Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia, oh Trump and the bad prince of Saudi Arabia who chops people up he chops up journalists This is like a Trump

2:40:02 anti-Trump piece in every way. It's unbelievable how poorly done it is! Well, I want you to stay on this...I'm taking the Epstein information. I've become interested in the companies that he invested in which appeared to be a lot of mind control or singularity You know Nathan Merville these guys a lot of this interestingly Companies that would need human people to experiment on. Remember he collects people

2:40:40 And some of these companies are very interesting. They do some... No, no I think you should just your be mathematical biology and kind of something I'm sending it to you Yes, please Please do so I'm looking at that stuff like what was this? What was he doing with this money? And he but you know a lot of Silicon Valley a lot of these singularity type dudes He was hanging out with soularity yeah Okay That was funny. Good catch on that NBC report, what a bunch of crap! By the way if it comes out that Trump was part of this wouldn't surprise me either. It actually would surprise me. Nothing surprises me anymore I just have two more things...two clips This is from the Google censorship session which is also the judicial oversight committee I think it was Ted Cruz presiding

2:41:39 the senator from Texas, and the first clip has no real further background other than they had one guy was a Dr. Robert Epstein and Robert Epstein testified that Google actually swayed real votes in the last election Just to give you, and this is a different Epstein or Epstine. He's an American psychologist professor author and journalist PhD from Harvard editor of psychology today visiting scholar of University of California San Diego founder and director emeritus of Cambridge Center for behavioral studies in Concord Massachusetts commentator for NPRs marketplace

2:42:28 His writings have appeared in the Washington Post, Sunday Times in London, Good Housekeeping, Parenting. He published in 2006 Perspectives on Psychological... I mean he's got quite the resume could be a complete nut job. He also has beef with Google, Google search over security warning, we've had that placed on links to his website. You know it's like oh this could be bogus anti-vaxxer not that he is but you know one of those types of things so the guy has his is conflicted with Google But here is the kind of summation of his testimony and what Cruz thought about that. The number one financial supporter of the Hillary Clinton campaign in the 2016 election was the parent company of Google, Alphabet who was our first witness They were her number one financial donor and your testimony is through their deceptive search methods they moved 2.6 million votes in her direction I would think anybody whether or not you favor one candidate or another

2:43:30 should be deeply dismayed about a handful of Silicon Valley billionaires having that much power over our elections to silently and deceptively shift vote outcome. Again, with respect I must correct you. The 2.6 million is a rock bottom minimum the range is between two point six and ten point four million depending on how aggressively they used the techniques that I've been studying now for six and a half years Wow could you say that again please just The 2.6 million is a rock bottom minimum, the range is between 2.6 and 10.4 million votes depending on how aggressive they were in using the techniques that I've been studying such as the search engine manipulation effect, the search suggestion effect

2:44:23 the Answer Bot effect and a number of others. They control these, and no one can counteract them These are not competitive! These are tools that they have at their disposal exclusively Funny how you didn't see that clip anywhere, and I'm sure he didn't hear about it. But there it is happened just the other day And that is a that is a great clip if I'm gonna give you a Clip of the Day for uncovering it Oh Thank You Well hold on to your hat Something happened on this panel which I have, I don't think ever seen before. Typically you get someone there there's a witness you're gonna grill them and yes there will be easy questions from one side or the other softballs all pre-scripted everybody knows what's going on but rarely do you hear a representative or senator

2:45:25 actually sit there and defend the witness without asking any questions. So you have to wonder, who is paying Maisie Hirono? Maisie Hirono is... I think she's nuts She represents Hawaii? Did she defend the guy and his 2 to 10 million vote? No, no. That was a witness. Oh that was a different... She is defending Google! Ah, Google. The calendar says it's July 16th but it feels like Groundhog Day in the United States Senate

2:46:01 A little more than three months ago, this subcommittee held a hearing to explore allegations of anti-conservative bias in the tech industry. My friends on the other side were critical of witnesses from Facebook and Twitter. They claimed a vast conspiracy to silence conservative voices After listening to some of the comments from that hearing, you might think that some liberal mastermind sets us the controls of those platforms. Looking at 510 thousand Facebook posts and 350 thousand tweets posted every minute and removes anything that might align with a Republican Party platform I repeat now what I said then claims of anti-conservative bias in the tech industry are baseless

2:46:46 Study after study has debunked suggestions of political bias on the part of Facebook, Google and Twitter. In June this year The Economist released the findings of a year-long analysis that ran on search results on Google's News tab. Economists your bell ring is correct It found no evidence that Google biases its results against conservatives in April Media Matters completed a 37-week study into alleged conservative censorship on Facebook. It found that right leaning pages actually outperformed

2:47:22 I'll perform left-leaning pages in terms of overall interactions with users. Undeterred by this evidence, here we are again three months after that initial hearing with Facebook and Twitter it is now Google's turn to be raked over the coals. Google will be accused a political motives for some common sense actions that are entirely within their rights just like we saw at the president so called quote social media summit last week President Trump invited a rogues gallery of social media's leading racist and conspiracy theorists to hear about supposed censorship by tech companies.

2:48:00 But none of these people had actually been banned from any platform. Each remains free to use the megaphone social media provides to spread their messages of conspiracy and hate This tilting at Wimbledon comes at a cost Fears are being tarred as biased have made tech companies hesitant To deal with the real problems of racist and harassing content on their platforms According to a report by Vice, Twitter is afraid to use the proactive algorithmic approach it uses to remove ISIS-related content through the platform of white supremacist content. The reason? Twitter is afraid it might also catch content posted by Republican politicians."

2:48:46 There you go. They can't use the algos because, you know... to find racist stuff because it would trap Republican politicians Thanks Maisie Hirono Thank you! Go get your check now What a horrible woman She's a horrible person None of these people are doing any service to the country I do like their 2-10 million vote sway though I think that is possible It could be You don't know. Which will probably result in the... I mean, there's a lot in that clip That was a great clip We'll finish with that And that's it for the deconstruction session For today we return of course on Sunday That's the second Thursday of the week right here and no agenda Please support the program

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