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00:00 And I could die turned into a drive. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. And Sunday, May 26, 2019, this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1141. This is no agenda. Celebrating one week of wedded bliss and broadcasting live from the frontier of Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're awaiting 1999 KW4. Hello, everyone. I know I'm missing some cultural reference. No, you're missing the fact that an asteroid with a moon fling flinging or an asteroid that's shaped like a spinning top and a little bitty moon going around it. Is that headed towards us? Is it going to slam into us? No.

00:57 I think our gravitational pull, though, would at least jerk that moon out of orbit. How far away is it? I don't know. I have no idea. Will it hit any space junk? No, it's not that close. Space junk is pretty close to our, in the scheme of things, pretty close to the surface. Oh, totally. You know, I was looking up, because of this 2024 First Woman Next Man on the Moon mission, First of all, well first of all the NASA exec quit just a few weeks after he was appointed because apparently you know the budget is not what he thinks it should be or Mark Sirangelo was tapped in. If they didn't spend so much money wasting it on global warming studies, they'd have more money. So here's my

01:50 Here's what I'm looking at. The main thing people say why we haven't been to the moon since the 60s and 70s, essentially 50 years ago for the first time, is a cost issue. This is what I keep hearing everyone say, well, could we really, we pulled out all the stops, we just, we've poured all the money we had into it and we made it to the moon. So the total cost of the entire Apollo program, which includes all of the rockets, every, all six missions that landed on the moon, was $25.4 billion as reported to Congress in 1973. Adjusted for inflation, that would be $150 billion today.

02:33 I don't believe that number. I believe the number would be closer to 250. You have to, you're using the bogus inflation numbers that the government have been, this is the real issue. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Just before you get into that. So 250 million, that's fine. Billion. Billion divided by six is $41 billion for one mission to go to the moon. Yeah, it seems affordable. Well, right now NASA has a total budget of about $20 billion with some bullcrap extra, let's give them another billion to take them to the moon. Are we serious about this or not? How much is it really going to cost?

03:09 Do we not want to put the 50 billion? Yeah, 50 billion. Well, there's no 50 billion being spent, so I don't see how it'll ever happen. Ah, so you think the whole thing's just a public relations scam? Oh, I can't wait until I wish 2024 can't come fast enough for me to laugh my ass off. Wow. Please. That guy holds a grudge. But I mean, if this is real, this is it. I knew it. Like the old fart, you'd be in the, you'd be in a rockin'- Yelling at the sky! Yelling at the sky. I knew it. Hey, you guys promised the moon you could deliver nothing. Uh-huh. Oh, okay. I just don't, I can't take it seriously if we're not going to put up the right amount of money. Well, then I don't take it seriously anyway.

03:54 Well, this is a fact. Hey, I got to see somebody write up the story of the Saturn V rocket. That's the thing that got it. If we went to the moon, that's how we got there. We don't even have a rocket that's half that size. It doesn't seem like such a big deal. Is it so hard to just build a bigger rocket? I don't know why they haven't built another Saturn V. That was the biggest rocket we've ever built. The things the size of the Empire State Building. It's a huge thing. Really? Is it that tall? That's crazy. No, it's not that tall, but that would be kind of cool, don't you think? Well, okay. More misinformation, Dvorak. You're not helping. Confusing me. I just want to mention one thing. And maybe you've had this moment, but we were reviewing some of the pictures and videos, mainly videos from the wedding extravaganza of the century.

04:57 And I have to say with sadness and disappointment that I really believe I'm a better dancer than I am. Holy crap. I'd look complete... I'm just gonna have to say it. I'd look retarded. It's horrible. And I'm thinking like, yeah, baby, I'm nailing this here. Woo, everybody! And I'd look like one of those things outside of the second-hand car dealership, those inflatable... With praying mantis arms all over the place. It's horrible. Horrible. I really thought I was better than that.

05:35 Well, apparently you were mistaken. You were misleading yourself. So I had to do something to make myself feel good and I spent the past... Until you erased the videos. No, I wish. No, I spent the past two days doing something I promised for many years and I finally got it together. Zumba. Close. Podfathergear.com. I finally documented it, wrote it all up, exported all my settings, Podfathergear.com, and it's all there, you can see what I use, my own configuration files, you can install them, get everything up and running with my baseline, shows exactly which widgets and boxes I use, released under the value for value model, of course.

06:23 Well, let's stop immediately here and the value of the value is going to pay zero. In this regard, because one thing, you're not running a bunch of cheap crap. No. Well, no, it's not cheap, but it's not crazy expensive either. It's close to it for most podcasters. The main box is $595 and you can get quite away with that. I mean, you'd still have to buy the plugins. No, no, no, no, no. Mark of the unicorn you were talking about. Mark of the unicorn has the compressor limiter EQ, all of that built in. You need no extra, no extra stuff. So I'm basically on a

07:04 A bare-bones box. I'm running barefoot, John! You almost sound like Alex Jones doing that. It was my CB trucker. Same thing, Alex Jones, same thing. Anyway, so I put it all up there and hopefully... and I also realized that as I'm putting that up there, like, I could probably make a good sound on any device when I think about it, just with the right amount of time. And to be fair, with the right partner who is incredibly consistent and doesn't mind counting to 100 as often as I ask him to. You can say that, but the other side of it is you're not going to do that A for sure. Do what?

07:58 try to make good sound on anything because your real goal is to make the whole thing so portable that you could go travel with it. Yeah, that is exactly. You can't do that with just anything. You can't have a bunch of big boxes. True. But after this exercise and I'm kind of looking around like, I wonder what other, is there any new boxes out there? And I'm just looking at stuff like, I could probably make it work with that. I could make it work with that. They're all, nothing is cheaper. Nothing is geared towards podcasters. But now at least people have a little example of how I do it. Felt good. Horowitz uses the dreaded Roadcaster and he blew up, his files blew up. Oh what happened? Did you hear about this? No no no no no I mean he sends me stuff all the time we discuss the sound and I'll ask him what he's doing and you know there's sometimes it's better than others but he didn't tell me about the files blowing up. Yeah a couple of the first time he used a Roadcaster he had to use the backup files because the Roadcaster

08:53 Didn't blow up the whole file, but it trashed the end of the file. Oh, so they had some sort of a EOF problem. So you had to pull it from tape, huh? You had to pull it from tape. Pull it from the backup. No, coincidentally, I had recorded it using the recording capabilities of Skype and unbeknownst to me, it automatically sends him the file. I didn't know you can do that with Skype. Do what? Record. Is that stock now with Skype? Start recording! Wow, look at that. Start recording. It's right in there. Yeah. Huh. I thought you were arguing with me the other day that it was always there. Start recording? Let me see what happens. And then when you're, at least in this case, when it's done, he gets, the file gets shipped to him, I guess maybe some sort of a

09:45 Courtesy. So I just record a little bit and then finalizing so it'll probably send that to you now. Interesting. I had no idea. Well, Skype guys aren't stupid and it is part of my standard setup. I even show how to configure it. Anyway, so that made me feel much better about my extremely white boy dancing. It's not that I look like an old man. Just... I thought I thought it was you don't have the video available to me. I have no idea John. Don't worry I wouldn't want to you know did you do the conga well without looking like an old fart? And we forgot to mention that Andrew Horowitz and his wife started a conga line at the wedding I have to say that was this is from one too many screws. That was fantastic

10:36 Things I never expected. Things I never expected at my wedding. A conga line. And then he's like, hey we're gonna do Soul Train now. Giving a kick to the DJ on the wood board over there. John and the DJ, the only black guy at the wedding, was like raising his eyebrows like, you doing Soul Train? Okay. Anyway. Hey, um... Theresa May quit, let's start with that. Yeah, yeah, that was pretty interesting. You have the last tears? Yeah, I got the end of the talk. She talked for about 10 minutes. It made it sound like she was bawling all the way through. No, she just cracked at the end. Yeah, at the end she finally folded and she wandered off and they have all these pictures of her that are floating around. I had one in the newsletter.

11:26 of her just making a kind of a sorrowful face and of course the media, well she cried her way through it you know they go on and on. I think the British media hated her for some reason. How about the British public hates her? I will shortly leave the job that it has been the honor of my life to hold. The second female Prime Minister. I'm calling bullshit here Dvorak I think you slowed this down to make her sound more emotional. But certainly not the last. I do so with no ill will, but with enormous and enduring gratitude to have had the opportunity to serve the country I love. I pulled that as an ISO. To serve the country I love. Actually, mine does sound a bit faster than yours. You hear that?

12:22 Yeah, maybe it is. I'm not interested in that by much. But that just kind of showed... Mine ended though, you didn't get the end of it because I definitely boosted the clip clop, clip clop as she left. Oh no, I cut that off of the ISO. I have it in my clip. But it was so... what this really showed is For two seconds, for a moment there, the reptilian gene slunk away and it was a human being who cared about something. Sadly it was herself. And that's I think what the British public took... took... what is the word I'm looking for? Took offense to. They're like, whoa, now you cry? Now you got a problem? Yeah, maybe.

13:11 But it wasn't like we didn't expect this to happen. I'm surprised she stayed in past the first rebuke of her idea how to get out of the EU. Now what happens is... Bojo! Bojo! I don't think so. I think it's gonna be... I think it's Gov. This guy Gov. Gov? Yeah, Gov. He's gonna be the guy I think is gonna get in. He's a Brexit guy, probably a little more of the hell with it, let's just get out. Which I think Boris Johnson would be like that too, to some extent. Of course he would, that's what he's all about. There's never been any reason to do these deals, you got WTO as your backup.

13:59 Okay, so who's this guy Gov? I mean now I need to know. You can't just play a clip of Theresa May and then say, I think it's gonna be someone else. Well, it's gonna be someone else no matter who it is. Right, but... Okay, I expected more. You don't have it. You don't have it. Okay. I don't have it in front of me, no, because I wasn't... I shouldn't have said anything. But he's the guy, he's been around, he's been floating around, he's like one of the, he's like Rees-Mogg, that guy. Who's also, they're very old-fashioned British, they talk very slowly and deliberately and they, a lot of understatement. And this is one of the two guys, this Gov character. Well what'll be interesting to see later today is all the returns of the European Parliament elections.

14:51 to see how the Brexit party did, that's Farage's EU party. I think that may even matter a little bit more now, because who cares who comes in in Britain? They have no intention of Brexit, no matter who it is. I don't care if it's Boris Johnson. They have no intention of doing that. People's vote do over you did it wrong do it again the bankers in London they feel that is better off Everything's better off of things the way they are with this connection to the EU and they can be the little banking community a little Switzerland in the middle of the middle of the UK right

15:27 doing their thing and cleaning up on service fees. And the expectation is that a lot of populist slash nationalist leaders and parties will gain a foothold in the European Parliament. Didn't turn out that way, although it was an interesting and good result for a very young party. There's the F VD the Forum for Democracy party which is right-wing but Distance themselves from from here builders party and he so he would be right right right wing and they're like kind of right wing But they came in third so they do get a couple of seats in European Parliament But it was the Workers Party the party of the workers PVDA with our boy

16:13 up front, would be this... You're talking about Holland. Yes, yes, the Spitzenkandidat, that would be my globalist buddy, Frans Timmermans. So there's a... he has a really good shot. Juncker, who's exiting the position, did an interview with, I think it was CNN International, and he was asked about this very issue. What do you think about the populists, the nationalists who are rising all over Europe? And his response went noted by many. These populists, nationalists, stupid nationalists, they are in love with their own country. And they don't like the others in some countries of the European Union.

16:58 The government, parliament, a major part of the society don't like those coming from far away. I do like those coming from far away because the main guiding principle of the European Union should be solidarity. They are stupid. They love their own country. What is this makes no sense. It was like a non sequitur. I like those who come from far away because it's about unity. What? They're far away. It's not unity. Well if you're a globalist it is. Then it's like oh yeah unity. Ah now we're talking. But those who love their own country they're stupid.

17:39 Doesn't that just say enough right there? Yeah, it pretty much sums it up. How stupid are you that you love your own country? Let me see that again. These populist nationalists, stupid nationalists, they are in love with their own country. It's crazy. They're in love with their own country. Why do you do this? This is not good. They want to love the European Union. Good luck with that. Well, it's always been a fool's errand. Yes, to a certain degree, for sure. For sure. Let me see, well there is stuff going on, I don't know exactly where to start. You're talking about my speeds being off? Yeah. So I had some issues with my browser, I fixed it. With your browser? Before I fixed it, I had stuff that sounds like this, play squeaky ju- this is Judith Woodward on

18:34 on the news hour squeaky Judy to know one or two to to play to and now we turn to the analysis of shields and Brooks that is syndicated columnist Mark Shields and New York Times columnist David Brooks huh now you play squeaky Brooks persons squeaky Brooks confusing me here. Yeah, when I look at the Solaris candidates, I'm... Yeah, I heard this with your previous clip. It sounds like a doubling or something. There's something weird. Yeah, when I look at the Solaris candidates, I'm first struck by how the self-esteem movement was actually very effective. Sounds like you're recording it twice. Like it's going through... it's almost phasing. When I look at the presidency, I've interviewed a lot of presidents since Reagan. Or is this an effect you're doing to make everyone sound shitty? I know it.

19:24 happen. It's just don't worry about it. It's never going to happen again. Well, okay. This is interesting though that this happened to you. Um, because this was one of the most, to me, very interesting ministry of truthiness exercises that we went through with this doctored video. Um, before we play the, I did you get to die? I think I have a, did I get a, I don't think I have a copy of the doctor. I watch it last night. I have the, I do have this to play. I have, the event at which Pelosi was on, she was at some progressive deal and she, let's see, where am I? Pelosi, Trump, walkout. I mean, I have the clip that you're talking about, so I have all this. Disposing Pelosi at progressives events is the clip I'm talking about. Okay. And this is the actual feed from the event at regular speed

20:29 And she sounds terrible. I mean, yeah, they slowed her way down to make her sound drunk, but they used to do that with George Bush as you recall. Well, hold on, hold on. Stop, stop, stop. No, stop. Stop. You're going way, way ahead of what's happening here. All right. First, okay, I'm just going to keep your clip there. I think it's long, I see. So I just want to make sure that we get to the action. First, the genesis of what happened. Because there was the back and forth between Trump and Pelosi which started with Pelosi and let me see the one that I want here is now you've confused me I was so right oh here we go yes this is the back and forth this thing keeps escalating in a brawl of words after the infrastructure meeting imploded yesterday and the president said basically call me when you're done investigating and then we will get some work done

21:29 Nancy Pelosi did not like that. So she called him basically unwell. I pray for the president of the United States. I wish that his family or his administration or his staff would have an intervention for the good of the country. I am. So the president was not happy about that. Ever the counter puncher, late today he let her have it over the inaction of on the new trade deal with Mexico and Canada that he very much wants to get signed. She's a mess. Look, let's face it, she doesn't understand it. And they sort of feel she's disintegrating before the rush. Crazy Nancy. I tell you what, I've been watching her and I have been watching her for a long period of time. She's not the same person.

22:17 She's lost it. It was sad when I watched Nancy all moving the movement in the hands and the craziness and I watch that's by the way a person that's got some problems. Okay, so this was the genesis of the back and forth and then The president tweeted out this video. If that's not the accurate category. Some people call it AFTA-NAFTA, some call it NAFTA 2.0. We're working together to make past that. There are three things. There are three things. There are three things. We're very busy people.

23:10 That was the exact video, because I got it from his tweet, that Trump tweeted out. That was not slowed down, and the reason why the three things, three things, three things was repeated, because she keeps holding up two fingers when she says three things. So, it made her look very stupid, it was edited of her bumbling and stumbling, but it was not slowed down. But this is what interests me, is that the Team Pelosi or whatever bugle call goes out, immediately, uh-oh, She looks like she has medical issues. And this distraction was created, and I'm not quite sure how maybe Rudy Giuliani had to do this to do something, but then for a little while there, for maybe an hour or two, Trump tweeted out a fake video

23:58 doctored video and then when they realized that it wasn't this slowed down video I have the example here from NBC about the impact that altered videos could have on the next election after a manipulated video of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi went viral and after the president retweeted another heavily edited video you see this is fantastically done oh my god She looks like she's, like she's, she's dying. She, it's not a good video. It's not a good look. It's not a good sound. They bring in some other video that was not even in play at all!

24:34 Yes. Okay, then they bring in experts on this thing. So now that what Trump has tweeted is already behind us, although Trump, orange man bad, he did tweet it out a doctored vid. Now it's doctored. It used to be heavily edited. Now it's doctored. It's been doctored with. They combined the two.

25:11 items purposely and made it look as though Trump sent out the copies of the one where she's talking slow and by the way I want to stop right now and mention they did this to Bush constantly. Of course they did, of course but that and that's what I'm seeing here is complicit behavior where not once have you seen the video on mainstream that Trump tweeted out. Instead, you get stories like this. We want to show you this video. First, we're going to show you the real video of Nancy Pelosi speaking a couple of days ago, and then we're going to show you the fake one, which has been slowed down, the audio slowed down to make it appear as if Speaker Pelosi has been slurring her words. And then he had a press conference in the Rose Garden with all this.

25:57 short sort of visuals that obviously were planned long before. And then he had a press conference in the Rose Garden with all this short sort of visuals that obviously were planned long before. So you can hear that edit there, you know, when you see it side by side, it might seem obvious. But when you encounter this on your Facebook news feed as a standalone, it might not seem as obvious. And look, you know, doctored videos, hoaxes online. Oh, yes, it's very obvious. Or as old as the Internet itself. What is unprecedented, though, is social media gives people the ability to put a fake video out there and have it quickly viewed by millions of people. This video has been

26:39 removed from YouTube. They said that it broke their policies, that it is misleading. Facebook on the other hand, the video is still up there. They essentially said it doesn't break their rules, that they are having fact checkers take a look at it. But just a few minutes ago I checked online, one version of the video on Facebook has been viewed almost two and a half million times. Twitter, the president's favorite social media platform, had nothing to say about this video which is still circulating on their platform this morning. Tony, I think it is really incumbent upon us to educate viewers as to how these things spread, how they're doctored, what to look for, because we're going to see a million things like this during this upcoming election. Yes, that's our job. We're here to inform you citizens that you need to look out for these doctored videos.

27:26 The video that it started with is not even played anymore. Now it's just gone into this complete stratosphere. And by the way, YouTube took it off! YouTube took the video down. Facebook didn't. This was a problem for CIA mockingbird Anderson Pooper. He just could not believe what was happening. And I got two clips, I'm so happy. He spent nine minutes with a spokeshole from Facebag, why they weren't, and we're already beyond the video Trump tweeted out. This is now something... And by the way, by the way, it was a meme characterization that Trump refused to take the video down, implying it was this video. Exactly!

28:13 And you know what? I don't know who made this slow down video. The only place I've seen it is NBC. NBC and CNN. I think they made it. They made it. Listen to Pooper with the... What's her name here? This is the... This is Vice President... No, Vice President of Product Policy. and counter-terrorism, Monica Bickert. Facebook counter-terrorism with Anderson Cooper. So Monica, in the wake of the 2016 election obviously Facebook has repeatedly told Congress, the American people that you're serious about fighting disinformation and fake news. Yet this doctored video that I think your own fact-checkers acknowledge is doctored of Speaker Pelosi remains on your platform. This word doctored, it was always deceptively edited.

29:04 Now we've come to, I wonder where the term doctored, who launched that? Besides NBC or CNN. Doctored. And what does that mean? This is by the way, I want to put this in the same category as glitch. Yes! What exactly does doctored mean? Thank you. Doctored definition. Is that a good thing? If I'm doctor, does it mean I'm getting healthier? Adam's been doctored. Treat someone medically. He contemplated giving up doctoring, being doctored. Okay. Why? Well, you know, first off, I think the suggestion there is that we haven't taken action and that's not right. We have acted. Anybody who is seeing this video in News Feed, anyone who is going to share it to somebody... Yeah, listen to this. So, Facebag didn't take it down, but listen to what they do when Washington, D.C. puts out a call. Anybody else, anybody who has shared it in the past,

29:57 They are being alerted that this video is false. And this is part of the way that we deal with misinformation. We work with internationally certified fact-checking organizations. Internationally certified? Oh! Who's doing the certification? Where can we get such certification? Who is the certifier? That's why I stop. I'd love to know. Who's the certifier? Who's the certifier? Oh, wait, stop. Hold on. Stop again. Let me guess. Cooper immediately asks her who is the certifier for this fact-checking operation. Who does the certification? Were you watching? I shared it in the past. They are being alerted that this video is false. And this is part of the way that we deal with misinformation. We work with

30:45 internationally certified fact-checking organizations that are independent from Facebook, and we think these are the right organizations to be making decisions about whether something is true or false. And as soon as we get, and we did in this case, as soon as we get a rating from them that content is false, then we dramatically reduce the distribution of that content. And we let people know that it's false so they can make an informed choice. Why keep it up though? If there were misinformation that was, let's say, tied to an ongoing riot or the threat of some physical violence somewhere in the world, we would work with safety organizations on the ground to confirm falsity and the link to violence. And then we actually would remove that misinformation. So misinformation that doesn't promote violence but misinformation that

31:28 you know, portrays the third most powerful politician in the country as a drunk or somehow impaired, that's fine. That's fine. So the International Fact Check Network has a code of principles and an advisory board. The International Fact Checking Network has seven counselors who represent the geographical diversity of the network. They are pioneers in the development and implementation of fact-checking in their countries and regions. All board members are unpaid. The advisory board's main role is to help oversee the verification process of the Code of Principles, but it is also consulted on all matters of other decisions that have an international relevance for fact-checkers. Let's meet these advisors. Let's see who we have here. Angie Holin, she is editor of PolitiFact.

32:25 Clara Jimenez Cruz, she is a Spanish journo. Glenn Kessler, editor and chief writer of the Fact Checker. He has a journalism career spanning more than three decades. Govindraj Ethiraj, he's from India. Laura Zommer, editor and chief... What is he good for? Let's see, well he has over 25 years focused on fact-checking and fake news busting in India. 25 years? Yeah, the man is fantastic. 25 years he's been doing this on the internet apparently. Laura Zommer, editor-in-chief at Chiquedo, the first initiative of fact-checking and verification of public discourse in Latin America. Okay. Enoko Magato,

33:18 He has extensive career in the media sector as a journalist and manager, 20 years of experience in Africa. Oh, and then we have one more. Tijan Shevetnenin. She's from Bosnia-Herzegovina. There's no one from America. Oh yeah, PolitiFact. Angie is from PolitiFact. Yeah, so those are the people who determine who can be... Nobody from Snopes? No, they are a member of the Fact Check Network. But here's how... Who are they? But if you want to If you want to become a fact checker We can do it and we can actually we should we can get a little verification badge. Oh cool look step one application Yes, which includes a non-refundable fee of $200 Okay Seems steep and then the assessment Oh external assessors will will check this who are the external assessors?

34:15 Lauren bigot. Well, there you go. Lauren bigot is the is the one who will be looking at our assessment Please this is crazy. So it's a big intellectual network of Yahoo's. Yeah theater now Pooper took it one step further and this is really really what gave me great joy to listen to this because here you have him seeing face bag is an incredible adversary and they're not playing fair. I guess I still just don't logically understand I understand it's a big business to get into of trying to figure out what's true or not, but you're making money by being in the news business. If you can't do it well, shouldn't you just get out of the news business? I love that he's saying they're in the news business all of a sudden. Look, I reject the notion that we're not doing a lot to counter misinformation. No, I didn't say you're not doing a lot. I'm just saying if you are in this particular case,

35:16 spreading and allowing the spread of a clearly false doctored video again you're in the news business there's a responsibility that comes with that and this is this isn't even a question. Stop! The doctored video itself tell me if I'm wrong here is news. It's news of course it is. It's news and it's newsworthy so why wouldn't you Leave it as he isn't just tell people we think this is a fake this of course he knows that the doctored video is news

35:55 Because he's covering it as he's full of crap this guy. Well, well, but I think he's look he's he's part of the system and For him to say repeatedly you're in the news business. I think he was really drawing her out He wanted her to admit that they're in the news business because once once face bag admits that then it's all over. I Then all of this deplatforming, hiding, shadow banning, lowering significance in the feed, all of this stuff becomes very relevant to section 203 of the Communications and Decency Act.

36:35 Then all of a sudden you are editorializing. Well they're not really in the news business by any means. No I know but he's trying to get her to admit to it and saying by the mere fact you distribute this, you're in the news business. Yeah. And this isn't even a question. We are in the news business, we are in the social media business. People come to Facebook to share. The reason you're sharing news is because you make money from it, it keeps people watching you. Oh, no, I understand. If you make money from it, then you're in the news business. Okay, thanks Anderson. You're more involved in your site, which I get and that's fair, but if you're in the news business, which you are,

37:15 You gotta do it right and this is false information you are spreading. What? Coming from CNN he says that? I know. You gotta do it right? How about you guys doing it right? So lovely ironic. You've got to do it right, and this is false information you are spreading. We have a site where people can come and share what they think, what's important to them, the news that they find relevant. And when they do that, we want to make sure that they have access to accurate information. If there is a threat of safety, if we're talking about terror propaganda, that's something where we can actually assess that on its face and say, yes, this is terror propaganda, and we can pull it down.

37:55 When you're talking about political discourse... After nine minutes of this crap, yeah, I'd be irked too. If it's misinformation that's related to safety, we can and we do remove it. Anyway, on and on and on. Well, while we're on the process of you gotta do it right, we might as well play this from CNN. This is, let's see, this is the Scarborough on Trump's mental decline. Oh, day yesterday, President Trump continued. Dude, I don't know, yeah, you're right, something went wrong with your record. Don't worry about it, it's fixed. Okay, good.

38:51 edited to show Nancy Pelosi stammering during a news conference with anchors suggesting the speaker is in a mental decline. Fake videos of Pelosi all altered to make her sound as if she is slurring her words has spread online in recent days. Interesting. Wonder what that's about. Well, we know what it's actually been about around this block before the president, of course, during the campaign. We've said it. People closest to him told us that they feared that

39:27 He was in mental decline. People very close to him told us that they feared that he was in pre-dementia, that he had changed. You watch Donald Trump in the late 1980s, you watch him even in the 90s, you watch him now, he has completely changed. I've known Nancy Pelosi and been working with her since 1994. I interviewed her this week. Since 1994. For 90 minutes. A quarter of a century I've known Nancy Pelosi. I can tell you Nancy Pelosi is tougher today. Sharp as a tack. Than she was 25 years ago. The difference between Nancy

40:08 And Donald, not even close. He knows he's slipping. So now, they're actually, we can think about it, it's incredible. They're doctoring videos. The President is sending them out. Doctoring. Alright, you gotta be, come clean with me, Dvorak. Here's what I think happened. You probably had the same thought I did, like, oh, it's funny, I'm gonna slow down some people, make them sound drunk. No! And then you left the filters on all your clips. What happened? I... You're doctoring clips. It's really too long and boring to discuss, but it was, it is a filtering problem and it had to do with some background processing that I didn't know was going to go onto the clips.

40:50 And I disabled all of it finally after I figured out what it was, because I couldn't get to this. There's some screwball page that is not even linkable on the normal Windows 10 main menu that puts a bunch of special effects on top of the audio tracks. And I was playing around with it, and I think I left something turned on. The problem is this particular... page of settings is not easy to access and I couldn't find a way to get back to it. It was just impossible and because it wasn't available under the normal settings, it wasn't available on the menu. It's your audio driver where you can set some of that stuff. What were you thinking?

41:37 This is a clear sign of mental decline. Yeah, mental decline. So I kept looking and looking and I finally found it by digging through and searching the whole computer. And I finally found it and I just turned everything off. Anyway, so the number of the clips have a little echoing sound. No, it sounds pretty crap. Well, the point is, the point is, is that, uh, these two and I do have a ISO from them. The sharpest attack ISO. Okay. Sharp as a tack. Sharp as a tack. She's sharp as a tack. It has such triple meaning for me now. I really love it. Now. Uh, I, now I do have the actual Pelosi right off of the conference.

42:29 which is the progressives event that she was at and she's yakking away and she sounds like an idiot. I think I also have, do I have any of the Pelosi when she was being interviewed by. Well, this is the, this is the, uh, exposing Pelosi at the progressives event. Is that what you're talking about? Yeah, this is where you, yeah. Turn off some news happened today. Uh, you, this morning we're supposed to meet with the president on infrastructure. But that meeting didn't really happen as I understand it from Twitter and the news and cable. Could you tell us what happened and what your thoughts are on that meeting or lack thereof?

43:11 I'm happy to convey my impression of what happened this morning, but not before I thank you, Mayor, for your incredible leadership and CAP for ideas. That's a big word. I gotta be honest with you, John. It's kind of unlistenable. Oh, well, it sounds fine coming over. No, this is also slowed down. Oh. You don't hear that? Well, it seems like it could be off about 5%, yeah. Could be. Okay, you don't have to play it. Well, I'm just wondering how many of your clips have this today? Probably a few of them. Okay, well we can't play Nancy Pelosi anymore because then it just it's wrong. Something very wrong about covering the story with slowed down clips which were not intentionally slowed down. Okay.

44:09 Well, she sounds terrible. She does. I mean, I don't care what you play Pelosi in any of her press conferences. Yeah, you can clip it out and make her sound worse, but she just sounds bad anyway. Well, she stammers and she does what Ron Paul used to do when Ron Paul was excited. He'd clip words. We're going to MP and then she'd go on with something else. She would never finish a word. She'd say MP instead of impeach. Ron Paul would do that? Ron Paul did it constantly. He would always clip words and so as he spoke, he would not finish a word because he didn't think it was necessary.

44:50 And I got plenty of examples of it, but she's doing it all the time. I think a lot of people that are, I don't know how you developed this habit. It just seems like a habit that you've developed somehow. I'm just cutting off words. Well, there's also something to be said for her being in her late seventies. You know, it's like, hey, it's like Nadler, like, holy crap, man. How old is Nadler? Nadler's 71. Well, Nadler is in deep trouble as far as I'm concerned. I mean, that wasn't just some fainting that guy did. He looked like he had something a little more serious take place. We had an EMS guy, EMR or whatever they're called. EMS? EMT. EMT. Yeah. He sent me a note. He says, you know, this does happen with dehydration with older people. He says he's seen it before. It may not be anything that anyone thinks.

45:42 Well, it didn't look good. He looked very confused. But again, you're 71 and you're dehydrated. Yeah. Only if you're Hillary. He's got a big bucket of water in front of him. Why doesn't he take a sip? Except if you're Hillary Clinton, then, you know, then doesn't quite count. If you fall down because of the heat. But Jerry Nadler, it's okay. What I thought was interesting is what de Blasio, the way he approached the situation. But I certainly want to see us have the ability to add more when we need them. And I think the congressman's right about that fact. Jerry, do you want some? Yeah, I got some. Jerry, take a drink. You look a little dehydrated, brother. I love this, you look dehydrated, brother. But since when is this like brother? You seem a little dehydrated. You okay? Hey, bro.

46:30 You want to take a drink with us? How you feel man? You okay brother? You alright? What is this brother business? That's what you say to someone you really don't know Really don't probably even want to converse with I mean that those are two total strangers If a guy says hey, how you doing there brother when the guys clearly not doing okay? It's not like hey Jer. How you doing? Hey, Nads stir now none of that Nets brother Hey, brother Well, he didn't look good, especially in the close-up video that somebody made. Right. But this is really the bottom line. I saw nothing but friendly mainstream media doing anything possible to distract people away from the fact that the leadership of representatives, because they're not our leaders, they lead the representation by some mechanism,

47:32 that they are older and you know, hey everyone gets old and I'm gonna get older and we're all gonna get crutchity and messed up and make stupid mistakes. I already look like a moron dancing. So, you know, I would hate to be in their position, but hey, isn't it telling us something and why don't we see a little news coverage of, hey, you know, at what point Does your cognitive skills, maybe you should think about retiring if you're hitting 80 in Congress. And you're passing out on the dice, well-seeded. Yeah. I think that's a valid conversation to have, isn't it? No, no, apparently that's not possible. And where is Ruth Bader Ginsburg, by the way? Where is she? She's hanging in there. No, she's not. She hasn't been back to work.

48:22 Yes, she was back to work. You're telling me. She's still at work, but she's been back to work I thought so that was my understanding. That's what the media has led me to believe Mmm. I have a feeling she hasn't been back to work at all. Let me see when is the last time? Mmm. I could be in an iron lung for all we know Maybe but in I don't know I I'd have to I'd have to see some evidence that she's actually back at work Because she could, I mean, not saying this, you know, saying this just with, not trying to be mean, but if she had passed away, that would be easy to keep quiet. If it was necessary, like, oh, we can't have Orange Man bad putting another Supreme Court justice on. No, we can't have that. Look, we faked a moon landing. I'm sure we can fake Ruth Bader Ginsburg going to work, but I haven't even seen that. You know, someone with a, you know, just kind of bustling into the Supreme Court.

49:27 No, if someone has any evidence, I'd like to know that she's still okay. Okay, now I got a clip for you. Okay. All right. Below. This is Pelosi again. But this time she's on the this is the interview that Brzezinski is talking about her being sharp as a tack. Doesn't it put more pressure on you that a conservative Republican says the threshold for impeachment has been met? No. No? No. Why? Well, we have to, we're not, this isn't about politics. It's not about passion. It's not about prejudice. It's not about politics. It's about patriotism. It's about the presentation of the facts so that the American people can see.

50:05 can see why we're going down a certain path. The American people elected him president, not by the popular vote, but by the the college, the electoral college. So I respect the office that he holds. And I think I respect the office that the president holds more than he respects the office that he holds. And I do believe that we must hold him accountable to a high ethical standard, which he has not met, to level of integrity that he has not met.

49:27 No, if someone has any evidence, I'd like to know that she's still okay. Okay, now I got a clip for you. Okay. All right. Below. This is Pelosi again. But this time she's on the this is the interview that Brzezinski is talking about her being sharp as a tack. Doesn't it put more pressure on you that a conservative Republican says the threshold for impeachment has been met? No. No? No. Why? Well, we have to, we're not, this isn't about politics. It's not about passion. It's not about prejudice. It's not about politics. It's about patriotism. It's about the presentation of the facts so that the American people can see.

50:05 can see why we're going down a certain path. The American people elected him president, not by the popular vote, but by the the college, the electoral college. So I respect the office that he holds. And I think I respect the office that the president holds more than he respects the office that he holds. And I do believe that we must hold him accountable to a high ethical standard, which he has not met, to level of integrity that he has not met.

50:42 and actually a respect for governance, science, and other imperatives that we have. So this is, we have a moment, but the fact is that at the same time we have to try to find common ground to work with him. She knows better. You know, you sit there at home and you watch her say things like, I pray for the president, he's clearly not well, needs an intervention. And you think, does she really mean that? No, she doesn't mean it. If she really, really... You played the definitive clip about a month ago.

51:18 Which is her clip going off on Bush. Oh, right, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, old... Let me see, Nancy Pelosi, what was it? It was 19... It was an old one, wasn't it? Yeah, it was from the 92 or before... No, it was about George H.W. Bush, so it had to be around 1989 or something like that. Yeah, it was 60 Minutes, I think. Yeah. Well, anyway, yes, that was the definitive clip because she's always been like that. But she knows better. She knows that this isn't that there is no grounds for impeachment. Otherwise, she'd do it. The 25th Amendment is

52:04 literally about being incapable of performing the inca- really incapacitated. Yeah, can't walk. Or talk or whatever it is or can't communicate and she so on one hand she said oh clearly something's wrong with him he's not of sound mind and needs an intervention but she will not allow impeachment proceedings. She has mentioned the 25th amendment herself just recently. Right. Which is bullshit, it's a bullshit thing. She's just throwing it out there. However, with Nancy stonewalling that, oh no, there's money to go around, Axe Blue is up in arms and they're taking out advertisements on MSNBC.

52:44 This is a message for leaders of the Democratic Party. For over two years, this president has broken the law and nothing happened. You told us to wait for the Mueller investigation. And when he showed obstruction of justice, nothing happened. When this president took money from foreign governments and blocked the release of his tax returns, nothing happened. And when his administration illegally refused to testify, nothing happened. Now you tell us to wait for the next election? Really? Really? Really? This is why we volunteered. Raised money. Went door to door. And voted in the last election. Our founding fathers expected you, Congress, to hold a lawless president accountable. And you're doing nothing. Nothing. Nothing. He broke his oath of office. He's defying you. He's laughing at you. And he's getting away with it. This is our democracy. But Congress is part of the system. And the system is broken. We have to fix it.

53:39 Need to impeach is responsible for the content of this advertising need to impeach everybody Need to impeach.com. This is now They've taken it so far now. It's been on on to three years. Yeah, you're That means that every president now whoever gets in Obama could have gone through this if he wasn't black sure yes, he probably would have Yeah, he probably would have. But this is all stems from Nixon and stems from, you know, then Clinton getting impeached. He actually got impeached. And they went through with it. And as the Republicans say, it didn't really help us. It ended up hurting us because it really irks the people because they never got anywhere with it. You didn't get him kicked out of office. So what was the point? Just a process of humiliation. And that's what they're doing. And it irks the, it really makes people angry. It turns out that 26% of the US public thinks impeachment proceedings should begin. That's a very low number.

54:42 And that's from the hardcore lefties. And it's going to irk everybody else if they go ahead with this. And that's what Pelosi knows this. And that's why she's trying to keep these guys under arrest. But there's a bunch of gung ho jerk offs like Al Green that are just going to keep doing, pushing for it. And then all these young people, they don't know that AOCs and these other Omar and the rest of them, they think is great. It sounds good. Let's do it. So then two... Well, I was going to say two things happened on Thursday on a show day, of course, that warrant discussion. One is the declassification of any and all documentation relating to any collusion. The second one is the Assange indictment under the Espionage Act. Which one would you like to tackle first?

53:39 Need to impeach is responsible for the content of this advertising need to impeach everybody Need to impeach.com. This is now They've taken it so far now. It's been on on to three years. Yeah, you're That means that every president now whoever gets in Obama could have gone through this if he wasn't black sure yes, he probably would have Yeah, he probably would have. But this is all stems from Nixon and stems from, you know, then Clinton getting impeached. He actually got impeached. And they went through with it. And as the Republicans say, it didn't really help us. It ended up hurting us because it really irks the people because they never got anywhere with it. You didn't get him kicked out of office. So what was the point? Just a process of humiliation. And that's what they're doing. And it irks the, it really makes people angry. It turns out that 26% of the US public thinks impeachment proceedings should begin. That's a very low number.

54:42 And that's from the hardcore lefties. And it's going to irk everybody else if they go ahead with this. And that's what Pelosi knows this. And that's why she's trying to keep these guys under arrest. But there's a bunch of gung ho jerk offs like Al Green that are just going to keep doing, pushing for it. And then all these young people, they don't know that AOCs and these other Omar and the rest of them, they think is great. It sounds good. Let's do it. So then two... Well, I was going to say two things happened on Thursday on a show day, of course, that warrant discussion. One is the declassification of any and all documentation relating to any collusion. The second one is the Assange indictment under the Espionage Act. Which one would you like to tackle first?

55:35 Well, I would say that the first one is probably more appropriate to where we've been chatting. So for then we get to Assange. Okay. So that was exactly it. It was a full declassification order. I think it was an executive order. Everyone has to cooperate with Attorney General Barr. And of course, it doesn't mean that we're going to see everything. No, no, no, no. You're not going to see anything. You're not going to see anything. You're not gonna see anything, except we're gonna see Brennan whining. Well, I do, I like how you're seeing people blame each other. This is always kind of like a precursor to something coming out that someone did something wrong. And it seems like a lot of people want to point towards Comey. Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch for sure.

56:31 Welcome back to Fox and Friends First. Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch claims that she never told James Comey to call the Hillary Clinton email probe a matter instead of an investigation. We were getting to a place where the attorney general and I were both going to have to testify and talk publicly about it. And I want to know, was she going to authorize us to confirm we had an investigation? And she said, yes, but don't call it that. Call it a matter. And I said, why would I do that? And she said just call it a matter Not so fast Lynch now says the former FBI director mischaracterized Statements that is according to a newly released transcript of Lynch's testimony on Capitol Hill last year Lynch also said that she was quote surprised that Comey used the word matter in reference to the Clinton email probe This is delicious

57:25 I never said Matt. I didn't say that to you James. But you did. I think that's juicy. Yeah, that is a good one. But again, if you get back to the basics and go back to your buddy Algenova, whatever his name is. DeGenoa. DeGenoa, that guy. He just blames the whole thing on Brennan. He says he was the real He was the real conspirator. Right, but we can't lose sight of what this is really about. All of this was put into play because more than likely Clinton, but possibly with other members of the Obama administration, from 2012 to 2016 were spying on political opponents.

58:20 And probably Democrats really, to be honest, you know, leading up to the election, they were using the NSA database and that spying is what got them in trouble, because then they started to use that on Trump. There were, you know, information coming in from the State Department to have people unmasked. You know, very strange way for that to take place. And they basically got caught. That's what, that's the clip that you played of Admiral Rogers. The whole, I got all this stuff going on. People are just looking up Americans for no reason, no warrant. And that's when he put that, he stopped that capability. But by then, they were found out.

59:01 If Clinton wasn't going to be president, this would come to light. Oh, he did. Trump became president. We got to cover this up. So that's where Brennan, who was probably a big part of that initial spying, was brought in or brought in the Steele dossier and made it all happen. It's really not about any of that. It's about spying on political opponents, American citizens. Which is what you do when you have the mechanism. Yes, but... This shouldn't be a surprise to anybody. That's what the FBI's been doing for most of its career, since it's been created. The crazy thing is, it was Brennan and it was Mueller

59:39 who were there when this was put into place after 9-11 and they swore, oh yeah, we'll make sure this is never used for any other reason than as specifically stated in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court charter. It'll never be used to spy on Americans. The very same guys who did it and covered it up. Of course, that's the way you do it. But no one is really, except for Joe DiGenoa, my buddy. He's the only guy and he's a kook, which makes it that much harder for people to understand. So frustrating. How will we ever win? He's a kook. Well then there's Trey Gowdy who,

1:00:24 He claims that there is exculpatory evidence that was recorded, and exculpatory means clearly shows the person is not guilty of whatever they're being accused of. And when you go and get a warrant to spy on someone or if you're accusing someone or if you're indicting someone and you withhold the evidence that could show that he or she is innocent, please tell me that's some kind of law-breaking, John. Tell me there's something with that. It depends on the rules, but yes. Okay, well here's Trey Gowdy talking with the money honey about it. I touched the money honey the wrong way and she went away. The FBI agents conversations with George Papadopoulos is because when an FBI agent sends in informants to someone they're looking at, typically those conversations are recorded, right? Those people are wired.

1:01:16 Yeah, I mean if the Bureau is going to send an informant in, the informant is going to be wired and if the Bureau is monitoring telephone calls, there's going to be a transcript of that. And some of us have been fortunate enough to know whether or not those transcripts exist, but they haven't been made public. And I think one in particular is going, it has the potential to actually persuade people. Very little on this Russia probe, I'm afraid, is going to sway people who hate Trump or who love Trump, but there is some information in these transcripts that I think has the potential to be a game changer if it's ever made public. You say that's ex- By the way, this was prior to the declassification order. Evidence and when people see that they're going to say, wait, why wasn't this presented to the court earlier?

1:02:01 Yeah, you know, Johnny Radcliffe is rightfully exercised over the obligations that the government has to tell the whole truth to a court when you are seeking permission to spy or do surveillance on an American. And part of that includes the responsibility of providing exculpatory information or information that tends to show the person did not do something wrong. If you have exculpatory information and you don't share it with the court, That ain't good. I've seen it. Johnny's seen it. It ain't good. Okay, I don't know if it's breaking any laws, but apparently that ain't good, John. So I don't know if that gets us anywhere. It's just that ain't good. Oh, well.

1:02:44 That whole thing is yeah, we'll see I mean they do bar does have this it's got everybody bent out of shape mostly Brandon He's on why don't they have any clips has he been on any any has he been a pun just recently was on bitching about this. Oh He was bitching about this thing about Barr being able to just unlock stuff. And he's going on and on. Brennan goes on and on. He speaks for the entire intelligence community. I wish I had that clip. He speaks for the entire intelligence community when he stammeringly says, oh, everybody in the intelligence community is upset about this because it's not the way it should be done.

1:03:24 And he goes on and on, he says, just careless, reckless, reckless of the president to do such something like this. And he's really like, what is his problem? Everybody I mean if you look at the Genoa or listen to Ray McGovern who nobody will talk to anymore because he's been banned from everything. McGovern says they're running like scared guilty people. Well let's remember these famous words of John Brennan. People are innocent until alleged to be involved in some type of criminal activity. There you go. So I don't know. I don't think he's safe anymore. Alleged criminal activity. You're guilty. You're not guilty until it's alleged. So I think he's in some trouble there. Yeah, well, by his own standards, he is. Yeah. Unbelievable. Well, so Assange. Yes.

1:04:14 Assange, now this is interesting. Actually I have a clip for this I think. Yes, under the heading press freedoms because that's what this is, that's what this will be talked about as usual. There's no such thing as press freedoms, I just want to remind everybody. There's a freedom of the press which is per our Constitution in the United States. It varies by country. The United Kingdom has no freedom of the press. You get a denotice, a shut up slave and you just stop it. Um, here is, let me see, I don't know where this is from. This is about the... What does D stand for? Doofus? I don't know. D... I don't know. Someone will be able to tell us. Breaking news in our world, the Justice Department announcing more charges against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. Let's get right to CNN's Laura Jarrett at the Justice Department. Laura, what are the details of this indictment?

1:05:07 Well, Jake, this is a pretty aggressive new move by the Justice Department, essentially tacking on 17 new charges against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. We had seen a single charge of computer intrusion late last month, but now 17 new charges, much more significant, and really a So, really a big deal here for First Amendment advocates and a concern here because he's being charged with unlawfully obtaining, soliciting, encouraging that former intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning with obtaining just a bevy of national defense materials. And he's being charged with publishing those materials.

1:05:44 And so the Justice Department asked today, well, what's the difference between Julian Assange and journalists like you and I? And they said, let's be clear, Julian Assange is no journalist. Another justice official said he's not being charged simply because he's a publisher. And what they're pointing to is not only the fact that Assange allegedly helped Manning crack into Department of Defense password, but also the fact that he published confidential human sources, the names of human sources which put them in danger and he knew that publishing would put them in danger. He solicited those materials on WikiLeaks and that's what they're pointing to which makes this case different, Jake. And Laura, what does this mean for Assange and has WikiLeaks responded?

1:06:28 They have. They have said this is madness, it's the end of national security journalism and the first amendment. So obviously a pretty aggressive response from WikiLeaks there. But you know, this is something that the prior administration really struggled with under the same set of facts. Under the prior Justice Department, Eric Holder declined to prosecute Julian Assange under the Espionage Act for just this idea because the idea is, well, what would separate this from the New York Times publishing classified information? And I should also point out, you might wonder why we're seeing this today. The Justice Department actually had 60 days

1:07:03 From when he was arrested last month, and so there was a sort of window from when they could tack on these new charges No telling whether they're going to attack on any additional charges though at this point Jake I think these 60 days is for extradition Maybe is that the idea about any of this this guy's not even an American. How can they charge it with anything well? There is a Wikipedia page for the Espionage Act of 1917, the United States federal law. How many people have been found guilty under this Espionage Act, even though we've gone through two world wars and Vietnam War and we've had all these other police actions around the world and potential for espionage and people were blowing up trains in World War II and all the rest? How many people have been charged and found guilty?

1:07:57 I don't think, I don't know how many have been actually found guilty. Zero, I think. Interestingly enough, Daniel Ellsberg, who was the whistleblower of the Pentagon Papers, he was hauled before the court on... He actually did the whole act. He grabbed the papers and he released the papers. Julian Assange was acting as a journalist in this regard because he didn't go steal the papers. And by the way, let's get back to my point. He's not an American. He's a citizen of Australia. He's living in England. What is the jurisdiction? I'm asking about jurisdiction here. What jurisdiction do we have to charge this guy under any act, espionage or other? Where's our jurisdiction here? He's not an American.

1:08:51 He can't, he's not committing espionage. Okay, can I ask you a question? Can you, I mean, I understand you've made this point, you keep making it over and over again. Gaddafi was not an American. We went over there and shot him up the ass. I mean, what is your point? I mean, this is a fucking stupid argument. Yes, he's not an American and neither is... No, it is... Well, it's to make it over and over again. I don't think... I don't think it matters. It's never being addressed. Well, but what is there to say? I don't think it matters. I think the United States, if they want to charge anybody under anything, the jaywalking act, they'll do it. They have no jurisdiction over this guy.

1:09:33 Not until he's here. If they get him here, then all of a sudden you... I think you got... Even if they get him here, what's the jurisdiction? He's not a citizen of the United States. Okay, I'm sorry. Is the world police gonna swoop in and say, hold on a second! You can't prosecute that young man! Well, the problem with the world police is that we're the world police. Exactly! So, give it up already! I'm not! But I think there's something else going on here. I think this is... I don't... This is for one of two reasons. Either... somehow, and this has Trump's greasy fingerprints on it, either A, we're gonna use this guy to show what you can't do, somehow we'll finagle this into the law to show that if you are publishing things that are just given to you

1:10:24 from inside the American government or intelligence sources, they want to stop that for obvious reasons. And there's a lot of leaking, particularly when it comes to stuff about Trump, and it's been very damaging to him, and so he may want to use this as a case to stop it, or it's meant to let Julia Assange go free because I don't see any court who could convict him on this. I have felt the exact same way. I think this may just, they overcharge him with stuff that's bull crap. The espionage law being the most obvious. Where's the Logan Act? Anyway, the espionage laws are bull crap and he's going to go free. And that's the idea. I think that's a distinct possibility because we know that Trump was happy about Assange, but he has to put up a false front here.

1:11:16 to make it look as though he's getting tough. Now just he just likes the fact that Julian Assange got him elected as president. Yes, of course he does. And this may be just a get out of jail free card. To answer your earlier question in 2001 retired Army Reserve Colonel George Tofimov was indicted under the act and convicted of conducting espionage Kenneth Wayne Ford Jr. indicted for allegedly having a box of documents in his house after he left NSA. He was sentenced to six years in prison. It's not like this hasn't worked. In 2005, Pentagon Iran expert Loris Franklin and lobbyist Rosen Weissman were indicted under the act. Let's see, Franklin was sentenced to 12 years, later reduced to 10 months of home confinement. So it seems like, yeah.

1:12:09 Maybe not so 12 years to 10 months. Damn. 12 years to 10 months of home confinement. That's a pretty good lobby right there, man. Good job on that. Alexander Jeffrey Sterling, former CIA agent, indicted on the act in January 2011, unauthorized disclosure of national defense information to James Risen. You remember that? Yeah, well how come Hillary hasn't been indicted under this then? This is not for elites! This is not for lizards! This is for humans! These laws are not for the shapeshifters, John. They get to do whatever they want. But yes, I think we're both kind of in agreement that this is like, oh, make it look really, really bad and then I don't even know if they'll go to trial with it. They'll come up with some, ah, well...

1:13:02 something. It just doesn't feel like they're really gonna do this. And the way the press is responding, they're not really all freaked out about it, so they must not think it's real either. There's a little bit of this, oh, well, how is it different from NBC? Well, NBC is fake. Maybe one way to look at it. It's quite different from NBC, in fact. I just thought that was, so... Well, we'll see. We'll see. I still question the jurisdiction issues. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the notice that comes before the D notice, John Cena!

1:13:44 By the way, the D notice stands for defense. Defense. Thank you. Yeah. Defense. Hello. Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. Also in the morning, all ships to sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, all the dames and knights out there. Well, in the morning to the troll room. Easy does it. Trolls at noagendastream.com. Good to see you all there. And thank you for showing up. Noagendastream.com 24 seven. You can hear all kinds of groovy stuff. Also in the morning to data data data data Only a few pieces of artwork uploaded to noagendaartgenerator.com, but this one caught our eye. It was the Spitzenkandidat, and we used that for episode 1140. The title of that episode was Imperious, and we want to thank Data, whoever that is, a relatively unknown artist, for bringing us that. I even saw some Europeans retweeting it, mainly based on the art.

1:14:43 They thought it was cute in regard to the elections taking place this weekend. Dan, so thank you very much. Noagendaartgenerator.com. We love everyone who participates in our Value for Value network. That includes producers of the executive kind and associate executive producers. We'd like to thank them up front in the show, just like Hollywood. Tell you what they said, tell you how they contributed. And we start off, I believe, with an anonymous donation. Yes, as a matter of fact, we do have our top donation. is anonymous. Oh, you know what? I have his note, unfortunately, left over on the other desk. So hold on one second. Okay. Just to fill up the time. It's always fun to do. Because they always come through the squirrel man. And then he prints it out on his printer and leaves it on the other side of the room.

1:15:38 But that's okay, he's off to get it. His name is JC Dvorak and you know that he likes to print out things from the best mail program in the universe. I've been a listener since the fall of 2015 when I was working 14 hour days installing Windows operating systems in retail stores. Oh my goodness, that is a harsh gig. Yeah. At the time, No Agenda was one of many podcasts I would listen to during my commute to work and to college. Now, however, the quality of both sound and content has made No Agenda stand above all others in the universe.

1:16:34 Thank you. Every time Adam has groaned about low donations or about ending the show, I have, I have screamed in my car wallowing in my flagrant douchebaggery, but low residual jobs karma has have karmas, karmas have collected, collected, that's what it says, upon me like dirt on a popsicle. It's a very funny symbol. I like any other producer would prefer to present this instant night donation in

1:17:13 something as Raven announces John to the stage. Hopefully a check will do as well. He's also an Eagle Scout, a dude named Ben and a ham soon to be. Makes so much sense. Thank you for all that you do. Very common. If he was a Marine, it'd be even more common. Well, so he needs a de-douching and some karma, doesn't he? Or he has some specific requests. I'm still reading. Okay. Thanks for all that you do to conserve the stress of amygdala's across the globe. Please knight me, sir rib ear. Rebear. Rebear. Sir, ah! Sir Rebear. Please de-douche. You've been de-douched. Jobs, Karma, and he has the jingles. Hold on a second, this is not on my list. So it's anonymous becomes Sir, what was it again? R-I-B-E-R-E-A-R. Rebear. Okay. And does he need anything at the table for the round table?

1:18:09 Doesn't say okay, but he does he wants that's wrong chemtrails. That's true and a Hillary laugh And that's wrong. That's wrong, which is that's wrong. I think there's a Peterson clip Okay, chemtrails, which is a favorite of yours? That's true. That's true and the Hillary laugh. Hmm. I can't find it. That's wrong. Oh, yeah, that's wrong That's true. See I didn't have this one set up and then Hillary laugh or a cackle. I Just says laugh and chemtrails. Okay, let's see and chemtrails. Why wouldn't we have all of that stuff? Okay, that's wrong. That's true I tried okay, it was good. It was it was funnier than I think I don't know what happened. All right

1:19:10 Now we know you've exposed yourself as someone who prepares. No, well normally I prepare, yes of course. You're a preparer. I try. Sir Stephen of Oswego, $756 even. Completing out my baronet, baronet C, counting below and rounding up to make it 18 times 42. Oh, I like that. Shapeshifting donation. Yeah, the shapeshifting donation times 42, the answer to everything in the universe. Nice. That's Jewish lucky times the meaning of life.

1:19:48 the universe and everything. It's got to make it super extra lucky, right? All I need is karma. I didn't get the divorce karma I requested in March, but I guess the universe decided my knighthood was enough, so I got through it. Just finished buying a townhouse so the kids have a stable home base So this karma is for my smoking hot girlfriend that I can turn into a new milf Wow, I love your goals my friend. Thank you sir. Steven of Oswego You've got karma

1:20:30 James Vargas coming up with $666, Jersey City, New Jersey. My first donation was exactly two years ago when I played Noah Jenna on a road trip for my girlfriend and she asked me if I'd ever donated. Good for her. I love her with all my heart and I promptly dedouched myself. Fast forward two years and we've now created our own true crime podcast, Direct Appeal. My girlfriend's a criminologist and is in exclusive interviews with a woman whom the media dubbed the suitcase killer. The suitcase killer for the murder of her husband. She claims her innocence and we are exploring the case which is Detective Dookie.

1:21:12 It's a classic podcasting genre. Yes, it's very popular. Yes, I have supported an agenda show in several ways over the years by creating artwork three times and having the honor of being on record as the first to identify Mark Pugner. Oh yes. I wanted to give the podfather his due in his own words and would be honored to to have Adam credited as producer at large for our podcast. I've taken many of Adam's studio tips to heart and I sincerely doubt we would have this show without my patronage to this show, to No Agenda. So credit where credit is due. I'm so thrilled to finally be a knight and choose the name Sir Snores A Lot. Outstanding. I'm gonna listen to that. I'm gonna listen to your show. Was it called Direct Appeal?

1:22:02 Yeah, the true crime genre and what's interesting about the true crime genre is that at least four of them have now gone on beat to become either Netflix or Amazon series. Yeah, so that you can really boost into something crazy, crazy good for that. Can't do with our show. So no. Can you imagine? Netflix anytime soon. Hey, I got a Netflix special. No, no, no, no. That's very good. Yeah, I think you did you give him karma? Yeah? Did I know I'm gonna do it right now. You've got karma. Yeah Direct appeal Astrid and sir mark gathered together. Oh, oh wow they jumped on a bandwagon here, and they're in Tokyo to great architects

1:23:02 World famous. 55.55. Some of the best in the world these two are. Best world-class architects. Wishing you lots of happiness and countless candles around the bathtub. Wink. Wink wink. That's Daymaster picking up on that little meme. Oh yeah. That I identified. But Adam, take those hearing aids out before you take a dive lest you get electrocuted. At weddings in Japan it's a custom to give elaborate envelopes which we'll send by snail mail later with money gifts for good luck out of an enumeration that cannot be split in two. So it's always a tradition never to be able to split in two so that's thus 555-55. Interesting how these traditions, we have the Jewish multiples of 18, we have Japanese can't be split in two which makes sense so you have a union, a unity. It's cool.

1:23:57 John, would you send a lavish Japanese wedding envelope too, of course, if you want to get married more often? Oh, I see. Okay. From Tokyo with love to the whole enterprise. Dame Astrid, Sir Mark, Duke and Duchess of Japan and all the disputed islands in the Japanese Sea. Long, long, long time supporters of the podcast, The No Agenda Show. Thank you so much. It's very kind. I'm going to give them a karma just because we love them. You've got karma. And we learned something. Cannot be split in two. Thank you. Yeah, that's a new one. Yes. Well, we also learned back on Valentine's Day that the chocolates are bought for the men from Dame Astrid. Oh, that's right. Yes. Men get a good deal in Japan. Yeah. Duke of... Duke Gene of the Old Republic of Texas, 333, also the sheriff. The sheriff.

1:24:50 Thanks for the well wishes. Karma for my father's full recovery. Sorry I missed seeing everyone at the wedding. Atlas shrug plus Monsanto 73s K5STBE. I think I pulled those. KF5, KF5, KF5. We like to say kilo five in the jargon. Oh, that didn't go well. Try again. Oh, this is not a good note.

1:25:44 I'm unemployed for 11 months now. We're trying, maybe it was one that period of time where we're doing the wrong job. I'm going to give him a new member that could be. We had this thing. I've mentioned this to newcomers or people that didn't hear it the first time. When we had the Seattle meetup, somebody came up to me and told me that the jobs karma that included Trump saying jobs, jobs, jobs, jinxed him. And he didn't work for about a year, same as this guy. And we were doling out that faulty jobs karma. Left and right. Yeah. We were doling out that faulty jobs karma. Shit was tainted. It was off. It was past the date. It was tainted karma.

1:26:25 Yeah, and we did that for some time once we came up with the Trump one, but then we've now since we've reverted. We don't use it anymore under any circumstances. Although somebody did request it once on purpose. Unemployed for 11 months now, we're trying to buy a business and sell our house, move to northern Minnesota and find a house in the tough housing market. Little or no inventory in the North Shore. and running into unexpected, undisclosed by seller delays complications. Only request karma. Thanks for the great show. I hit my son a zoomer in the mouth five years ago and you're keeping his sanity as he struggles in the college campus culture. Excellent. Well, what do you think we should do? I mean, he says I only want karma, but can we just give him the old school official Nancy jobs karma? He didn't request it. I don't think we should give it to him. Okay.

1:27:16 Thank you, sir, Billy. You've got karma But he should be at least aware of the fact that we had this yeah, I don't know if that was effective product so let's Recall so let's put it this way if he goes back and he finds out that he was using that he did receive the defective product We'd be more than happy to give him a full-on Nancy jobs karma. Just let us know Yeah, of course. We're always good for that. It's a worldwide recall. Yes, anyone who had, yes, if you had the Trump jobs karma, consider this your recall and let your dealer know so that we can set you straight and do you right. Christopher Walker comes in at $200.01.

1:28:04 In the morning, thank you for your courage. The NOAA Agenda shows the best podcasts in the universe without a doubt. Good tidings to you, Potfather and Mrs. Potfather as well. Also to the author of the future best-selling vinegar book, good tidings, sir. Ah, lest I forget, the squeaky chair karma. Please, for the chair, or we will not hear the end of it. Now down to brass tacks. The show is great. In observance of Memorial Day, I'd like to ask for this. Karma, please, for the family and friends of Dustin Kreider. While we were in Iraq, I watched poor Dustin Kreider get shot in the face and chest during a test fire tragedy during 2004. There were no bands playing when he died, and it wasn't very glorious.

1:28:50 Okay, well give him some karma then. Well, and thank you for helping everyone remember what Memorial Day truly is about. It is about the the fallen men and women, fallen and You know, for most it's a mattress sale, I think is how we celebrate that in America. It's quite disgusting. Coming from a long line of military and intelligence operatives in the United States. Thank you for reminding us, Christopher. And this, of course, goes out to Dustin and his family. You've got karma. Very good. Sir Mark Wilson wraps things up from the, he's the Baron of Glasgow.

1:29:35 Gents, the show has been excellent as always. Can I please have a Job's Karma with a side of I've Got Ants? Cheers, Sir Mark Wilson, Baron of Glasgow. Seems like we should be able to do at least a little bit of that. Thank you very much. You got your karma coming up in a few minutes after we hear from John and the ants. I got ants. I got ants. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. Always a fan favorite. Always. So I want to thank these folks there, the producers and executive producers for show 1141. Yeah, and I got something in my P.O. box. P.O. box 18209-78760 in Austin, Texas.

1:30:29 It was from Sir DH Slammer and the whole family, it's always so cute. This is a family that listens to No Agenda as a family. So it's Sir DH Slammer, Dame Bang Bang, we've got Sir Andrew, Master Emmett, and who am I forgetting here? Here we are. The Baron and Baroness of the Central California Coast Ventura to Santa Cruz Dame Simona of the Purple Goats Sir Andrew Keeper of the Mountains and Master Emmett selected this fine craft brew while we are spirit tasting in Big Bear, California. Hey, don't worry about it, the kids can hold their liquor. And he sent us a nice six pack of Blonde 33 which made a lot of sense to us of course and it was nice to receive a letter in the PO Box

1:31:14 which was sealed by night sealing wax and the signet ring. You too could have one of those or you could just feel good about being a part of the No Agenda Value for Value network. It's very simple. You heard the show? Did you learn anything? Was it worth anything to you? If it was, send us that equivalent to Dvorak.org slash NA or actually go over there and see what you could do because you can do a lot. Thank you to these executive producers and associate executive producers. Valuable credits. that are accepted anywhere, true, true show business credits are recognized. Uh, well we had, I'm sorry. No, I was gonna go ahead. We have a bunch of these guys coming out of the woodwork, these never Trumpers. We still put them on the air and give them all this time. It's annoying. Yeah, it's kind of annoying. We even had talk about it here. It is. So what do you got then?

1:32:39 This guy Tom Coleman. Oh a new guy. Who's this guy? No, he's an old guy. He was a Trump hater He got kicked out of office. And so now he shows up on CNN talking about how the president should be impeached I don't know if we should play it probably not. Okay, then let's go How about this a very interesting? I've helped several people immigrate into the United States Yes, you have. Yes, and through official means, official ways, and I haven't married all of them, just so you know. And I'm always happy to help, but there is a very specific, when you petition, that's the official term, when you petition for someone to legally immigrate into the United States, there comes responsibility with that. Actually, quite a big responsibility, which is you stand

1:33:33 As you, as what is the term I'm looking for? You guarantee that if anything goes wrong with this person in their trial period. Yes, you get deported. You don't get deported. But, no, you won't get deported, but you are responsible for any costs or anything, any burden on society. It's spelled out quite clearly. And this has been part of law for, in fact, I think it was in the 90s, yeah, 96, the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act made it a, took it one step further.

1:34:18 And the Welfare Reform Laws enacted by Clinton, who was then president, the law stated that immigrants should not depend on public resources to meet their needs. But this has never been enforced. Although I've always felt that, you know, I'm responsible. Something happens, I know they can come to me. Never happened, there was never a reason for it. But it turns out this thing has never been enforced. Never! And this includes social services. More interesting, Martha McCollum on Fox News has no idea about this. So with regard to immigration, there was an announcement today that basically people who had sponsored immigrants to come into the country are going to be responsible for repaying any of the benefits that they take advantage of. How's that going to work? Well, absolutely. It's actually already codified into law.

1:35:07 was for them to have some skin in the game here. It's a kickstart actually to the merit-based system we've talked about before. We want immigrants in this country. We're not even changing the 1.1 million immigrants that come here every year. We're not changing that number, but we're changing the construct of those who come. We want people to contribute, not to be a drain on the American economy or our social safety net programs that the American people deserve. Right now, immigrants are taking advantage of it and the sponsors, by law, are supposed to pay for that.

1:35:52 And it's time for them to put in their fair share. Let me ask you this. I am so yes, you want to say something? I said yay. I was gonna say this. There are so many laws that apparently are just not enforced. Who knew? Totally. Who knew about this? I didn't know that that wasn't enforced. It seems like a non brainer, just a no brainer. Hey, you know, this person is no good. You got to pay up. You're responsible. Come knocking on your door. I'm surprised by this. Martha McCallum didn't even know it existed. How are you going to make that work? No, I didn't know it existed. I don't think you can call her. You didn't know it existed. Yes, she's a white woman. I can do whatever I want to say about her. Skin in the game. Skin in the game, exactly. Where does this come from? The term skin in the game. The origin of the phrase is unknown. Really? Yeah, this has been commonly been attributed to Warren Buffett.

1:36:51 Referring to his own investment in his initial fund. However, William Sapphire refutes Buffett as the source of the phrase, pointing to earlier instances. They say it may come from Merchant of Venice, the Shakespeare's play in which the antagonist Shylock stipulates that the protagonist Antonio must promise a pound of his own flesh as collateral. Ah, that's the pound of flesh, there you go. That's the skin in the game. That would make sense. I have a... I received a clip, it's actually a video clip, I can play some audio from it, from the No Agenda Technology Lab.

1:37:34 No, we did some testing on one of our recent products that we were discussing on the show and this is your power line transmission. What are they called exactly? Powerline Ethernet. Home plug. Home plug. All right, your internet butt plug, home plug. What is called home plug? That's what it's called? That's the standard. Yeah, there's two standards. Home plug is the one that's the most popular. And I say, well, these things are a problem as far as I know because they interfere with ham radio operators and who knows what else? So one of our producers took it into the lab

1:38:15 And let me see, I don't know if you want his, well his YouTube name is Fidget McFidgetron. So we'll just leave it at that. And here he is! Alright so as per John's recommendation on getting a power line adapter for getting internet Into other places of your home. I decided to get one for my garage because that's where my SDR Hangout is SDR is software-defined radio, so he's listening to the ham bands, so I got a fair joke on the receiving end and on the output and into the computer and Let me pull up fast comm right here and watch as the web browser pops up there we go Got a fast comm speed test going and look at all the cure on that this thing is putting out. I

1:38:58 And then watch as I close this web browser. A couple seconds. Kills. And there's a little... So what you obviously aren't seeing but what you can kind of hear is the minute he starts to use a lot of data, he's using a speed test website, it just completely fills up the entire band with noise. You'll hear it if I turn it up a little bit. I believe that is also caused by this power line adapter. So it looks like I'm gonna have to find a different way to get internet into the garage. Adam was right, these things cause a lot of QRM. Kind of sad because this was a really easy thing to do. Just plug in, plug in, pair it and go. Now I'm gonna have to trench out my backyard. Oh well.

1:39:47 70 degrees. There you go ladies and gentlemen straight from the no agenda technology labs These things are great unless you are also a ham radio operator, then they're not so great I wonder what else they interfere. I wonder if his rig is plugged into the power line that he's using for doing the data transfer to. Oh, so now we have stipulations. Okay. So our stipulations now I want to know if you can have just like an icon one of these one of these battery-powered Right not not plugged in devices not plugged into the same system battery

1:40:24 battery powered hand device. I would like to have it checked. I mean, I agree. It's handy. I can see it being a problem if you're, uh, yeah, that software defined radio is really picky and it's about noise issues. And so you got a lot of noise. Okay. That's what was, was, was supposed to say, but the other, but the main problem was it's the guy across the street. That was in the olden days was bitching, so I don't think that he did. This is not a test. That's the one I want to see. I want to see the test of the guy across the street. So in other words, I want the power line adapter plugged in in a different house and does it affect him in his house?

1:41:04 Because that was the bitch about the ham guys early on, is that you plug it in anywhere in the neighborhood and all the ham guys are screwed. Right, so it may not carry. Okay, well we're sending it back to the lab, John, and they will figure it out for us. Secondary testing. Several articles showing up in the Washington Post, the New York Times, in fact I'll give you some headlines here. America's cities are unlivable. Blame wealthy liberals, New York Times. How San Francisco broke America's heart, The Washington Post. There's a trash and rodent nightmare in downtown LA with plenty of blame to go around, Los Angeles Times. Rats feasting on huge trash piles sparks fears of bubonic plague outbreak in LA.

1:41:51 Yeah. What was interesting... How about cleaning up the mess? Was that asking too much? What's interesting about the Los Angeles timepiece is that apparently businesses downtown in Los Angeles are paying some of the... well... I don't know if they're all, well they by definition they don't have a home but I think there's other issues, are paying them to take away their garbage and then just dumping it in the piles where the homeless people are already dumping their trash. I think in San Francisco they changed the recycling companies. It's now by different regions of the city and it went from an average $70 a month to $300 a month. Same thing's happening. Businesses are paying some of these people to cart off their trash and throw it on some trash heap. There are people stopping with pickup trucks to empty their trash onto the trash heaps that the homeless people have made in the streets.

1:42:54 Nice. That's the opportunist amongst the Bay Area dwellers. That shows a real moral decay. Well, it shows opportunism. Is it moral decay that saves some money? No, yes it's moral decay if you're throwing the trash on your own street. Yes, that's moral decay. Of course it is. You don't think so? That's just opportunism. I wouldn't do it. I don't like the idea of these big trash heaps. Well, no. Crawling with rats and mice and God knows what. That's bad news. That is bad news. Yeah. Yeah, well that's San Francisco. That's just a fact. There's a very interesting lawsuit. Let me see. It's Wheaton et al. versus Apple Inc. And what is interesting about this lawsuit is it claims that Apple

1:43:53 sold iTunes information to third parties for marketing purposes. And the information that they sold to these third parties was entire playlists of what you were listening to. And when you think, and we haven't even discussed this as an off-the-grid OTG issue, But knowing what kind of songs you listen to is up there in importance with personal preferences. I mean, if you give me your playlist, your favorite playlist, I think I can get a lot of insight to who you are and what you're about. Of course, when it comes to online types of systems like Spotify or Pandora or iTunes, there's some

1:44:46 concern when it comes to things like video. In fact, there was a law on the books that specifically forbade any video store or library or any other library-type functioning service, whether online or offline, to divulge what people are reading, watching, or listening to. And I think that's probably a pretty good a pretty good law to have. I didn't even know it existed. It's called the Video Privacy Protection Act. It was passed in Congress in 1988, signed into law by Reagan, and I'll just give you the actual text or the important part of it.

1:45:29 It was created to prevent what it refers to as wrongful disclosure of videotape rental or sale records or similar audio-visual materials to cover items such as video games and future DVD formats. And they updated this over time to include online as well. I did not know that this law existed and it really makes me... well, initially it made me question like, well crap, how can this be taking place? Yeah, Apple and isn't Apple supposed to be the the guys who say whatever's on your iPhone stays on your iPhone? Privacy. Well, they're liars. They're liars. But here here's the here's the kicker. This act was updated.

1:46:16 in 2012, no 2013, with House Resolution 6671, which amended the Video Privacy Protection Act to allow video rental companies to share rental information on social networking sites after obtaining customer permission. Netflix lobbied for the change. Obama signed it into law in January 2013. You didn't hear much about it. But isn't it interesting that the minute Obama is out of office he gets a hundred million dollar Netflix deal? Isn't that interesting how that works? I've always wondered why he got that deal. Always wondered. Now I know. It's just scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. And it's quite disgusting. These after the fact deals are... Quite disgusting. And it's black and white right there.

1:47:10 Well you found out what the reason for that reverse bribe or whatever you want to call it after the fact bribe. Yep. They take care of you when you're out. Yeah. Don't want to do anything now. Yeah, that's why I think a lot of these book deals, these massive book deals that these the ex-presidents get, they get like a you know two million dollar advance or ten. Meanwhile we're still we're still waiting to see what genius Barack and Michelle are going to come up with on Netflix. Have you seen anything they've produced? They're not going to produce anything. No it was pure thank you very much great job you really helped us move forward you circumvented a very specific law which made things difficult for us thank you President Obama here's your 100 million dollar deal don't don't have to do anything we'll just put you on retainer good to go.

1:47:59 Sounds like that's what it was. You're right. Good catch. I know you've just been in your craw. Well, this is some time. Yeah, I'm gonna keep it going here with one more note from producer Glenn. We were talking about your receipts being sucked in from your Gmail. Yeah, and that's how Google has this if you go to my account google.com slash purchases Then you'll see purchases that you didn't even make through Google But if you have a gmail and I you know, so there's certain things that for some reason a confirmation email went to a gmail account I have and that's what shows up

1:48:38 Well, Glenn says in 2015 he got married and before he got married he spent hours and hours looking for a tux and a suit. He went to Men's Warehouse and signed up for email, or he said maybe his wife signed him up, but he never bought anything from them and of course Men's Warehouse emailed him twice a day, every day, ever since 2015, so he put it into spam and Gmail. And so for the last four years he's never seen it. It's always in spam. He would check occasionally. But you know, it was just going to spam. Two months ago his grandmother died. And we're sorry to hear that. She was the first family member to pass away since he was 15. So this would be his first wake or funeral as an independent adult. And he googled stuff like what to wear to a wake. Do I need a suit for a wake? A day ago.

1:49:30 After four years of being spam, Men's Warehouse now appears in his regular email folder. It's no more marked, is no longer marked as spam. What's that all about? That's, that's what, that's the kind of stuff they're doing. You know, these guys, you know, this is what we, the problem we have with the news. I got, I got six or seven watchdogs out there that tell me where this thing's showing up and primary is a promotions newsletter. Mostly goes in there primary with a few guys. And every so often I get a note, this stuff went to spam for the first time ever. These newsletters aren't that different from what, from each other. I mean, I, you know, unless I screw something up and I know what it is,

1:50:17 But generally speaking, if you haven't seen these, the Dvorak, uh, uh, Curry, no agenda newsletter, it is a template. Yes. Pretty much the same newsletter with different information. And is it the different information that's triggering it? Is it the one too many photos that's triggering it? You really can't tell. It's almost impossible. It's the lack of an agreement between us and Google to pay whatever we need to pay to have it delivered. That's the future of it. And if people are going to use Gmail, then that's what you're going to get. That's what you're going to get. And also we thought that this whole internet email thing was unreliable.

1:50:58 I always said when I was younger, younger in the eighties, when we were using MCI mail and then the internet mail started coming up in big ways, it wasn't still up to up to speed, but you could get internet and you could get an email account from someone. I forget what the name of the company was that was providing this, but I always, I wrote a column in the deck professional. There's a magazine at the time, I said, you know, this mail is unreliable. And I cited all the reasons why it's unreliable because I thought it was and I still do. And holy crap, did I get a bunch of hate mail. It's the greatest thing ever. It's not unreliable under any circumstances. Send mail is the best protocol. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, it's unreliable.

1:51:47 Well, I'm going to disagree with you. I agree that send mail is a very reliable protocol. I think email is one of the best decentralized systems that exists and has a lot of fallback and protections and delivery is pretty much guaranteed. The problem is providers of email. And the disincentivization of having anyone even understand how it works, having a little box that is just your family email server at home. Yeah, they exist. Thehelm.com is a good one to look at. ISPs have worked very hard to block you having that capability at home. They make sure that, oh, port 25, you can't send, oh, you can't send out email, you might be a spammer.

1:52:37 So they've worked hard against doing that and people got complacent. It's like, oh I got Yahoo mail, I got the AOL mail, I've got Gmail, I got... And now you see, no you don't. They have your mail. And there's a couple of good ones. What's the one that everyone likes to use? The secure email service. Also that can go tits up any day too. What is it everybody uses? All you're doing is making my point. No, I'm not. The email as a protocol in SendMail is fantastic. ProtonMail, that's what it was. I'm not making your fast mail which people like yeah, I'm not making your point You're no cuz you specifically said send mail and it's bullcrap and it's no good that shit works It was bull crap, but I just criticized the whole mechanism. Yes, the mechanism mechanism where it goes over the internet and disappears and

1:53:30 Uh, gets picked up by the other, the worst part. Yeah. Okay. I'll back off on send mail. It's fine. And there's some newer protocols that are even better, but that's beside the point. The mechanism as a whole is completely flawed there. And even if you have your own little home server, there's still these blacklists you subscribe to a blacklist because you don't want to get up tons of spam, which you will get. The whole thing's a mess. I think we should go back to just snail mail. I've always said the internet should be shut down. I still say that. Yeah, said the man who was... you can't say these things. I said it. Reset. Do a reboot.

1:54:12 I have... and by what other protocol besides SendMail, what are you talking about? What are... SMTP really. SendMail is an application. I'm not gonna... I'm just gonna tell you what I think. Okay. I just... I just don't think there's... It's unreliable. We can't get the newsletter to half the people. I mean, I'm not counting people who just don't open it. That's just a different group. No, I understand, but I've received every single email, you know, two copies from two different email addresses ever since you started sending them out because I run my own server. And that has been disincentivized to... I mean, they could make an app on your phone that is an email server if anyone put their mind to it. But no, that's not the point. It's too good of a marketing opportunity. That's why, hey, that was the first thing Google came out with was Gmail. They knew early on, once we capture that shit, then we have it all. And everyone went, okay, all righty then, I have used this. Free gigabyte.

1:55:10 I remember all that. Make a time code please. I don't know what guy that is at your port. We know that guy, we know that guy. He's been around. Well I am still a fan of the general idea of dockless mobility in our cities. I'm not sure it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better, but they finally Unleashed the bird bikes in Hoboken, New Jersey home of Frank Sinatra, and it didn't go well They are extremely popular and eco-friendly, but e-scooters are not getting a friendly welcome in a Hoboken

1:55:52 and people say riders are breaking traffic rules and making the road dangerous. CBS 2 cameras caught people riding on the sidewalk, running red lights, going the wrong way down one-way streets. It is such a concern on day three of the program that police have put out warning signs. I've seen so many kids out here riding around without helmets. They're weaving in and out. It's hard enough trying to avoid pedestrians. It's the most preposterous policy I've ever seen. The company that operates the scooters has set up information tends to educate riders on safety and traffic laws. Yo, brother. The Keeper and I went into town last night for dinner. Can I, before you talk that anecdote, I do want to say

1:56:34 being in Austin for the wedding and I haven't been in Austin as I told somebody in the airplane I have not been to Austin pre-scooter. I'm a pre-scooter. Pre-scooter visitor. So I go there and there's all these scooters. It is unbelievable. Well what I was going to say is we, you know, out here in the frontier, the sticks of Austin, you don't really You know, they're here too, by the way. I've seen them in our neighborhood. People ride them, I guess, all the way from UT maybe. I don't know where they're coming from, but so they're around. They can go 20 miles, these things. They can do a full hour, yeah, if it's fully charged. 18 or 20 miles. Now, it'll take you an hour to do that, but yeah.

1:57:23 I follow this very closely. I follow not just the laws, and Texas has some laws that are coming down which will restrict the most important things, which is riding on the sidewalk and where you park them. The parking has gotten much better. Although I still think it looks ugly and if I just decided to throw some shit on the sidewalk, I would have a problem with it. But okay, I've said I'm a proponent of this, I see the benefit, but it will not work with the current culture. We can't even make bicycles work in the current culture with cars and trucks. Austin will be the first, I guarantee you. Parts of downtown Austin will be shut down for automobile traffic. It will only be for battery crap. Scooters, the monowheels, the electric bicycles. That is where they're moving with this. They're not saying it yet, but put it in the Red Book.

1:58:14 It's going to be e-scooters only in massive portions of Austin and it makes only sense that it'll happen in Amsterdam. I know it has to happen. Cars are, you know, they are becoming the problem. They're killing the people. They're the enemy! They are! They're killing the people on the scooters, the friendly scooters. They're killing them and they take up the place of 18 scooters. You can have a whole scooter gang in the place of one car on the road. So I think that's where it's going to go. Well there are some cities in this country already that have this no car zones downtown. Yeah I'm just talking about Austin, that hot metropolis. But

1:59:02 I haven't seen one that's been shut down from vehicle traffic for the purposes of allowing scooters to be zipping around. Those things are dangerous. These people are going 25 miles an hour when they shoot by you. If you get hit by one of them... Oh yeah, it can hurt. It would be dangerous. They got no helmet, so if they flip it or something, they're gonna bang their head and they do... Well, the main thing is the insurance. The main thing is the insurance. Who pays for what? And the minute you get on the scooter, you have indemnified the company. So you're good to go there. You get a vaccine while you're at it. Interesting you bring that up. I found the Adam Schiff. He actually put a state resolution, a Senate resolution. Was it Schiff? He's a House member. He's a House, so it can't be that. No. Was Resolution 165 recognizing the importance of vaccinations and immunizations in the United States?

2:00:06 We were talking about that. Kennedy said that the chief had done that. Right, he brought that up and we were both aghast. Yeah, so it indeed is here. It exists. But it's a resolution, so it doesn't make you do anything. But it does have everything in there that, oh yeah, they're good, vaccines are good, shut up, shouldn't ask. And someone asked me on email, hey, If there's no, really no testing data to speak of, certainly for the MMR vaccine in the United States, how does the European Union do that? So I went looking for that. Oh my goodness. What? It's impossible. They have so many organizations. Euro surveillance. Let's see. Europe's Journal on Infectious Disease Surveillance Epidemiology Prevention and Control.

2:01:03 No one has testing results. All they have is, yeah, yeah, yeah, everything is safe. Here's the EU regulatory framework for vaccines. They have a framework and the framework is... You pulled a fast one on us. Well, it's more than that. EU regulatory framework. Before a new vaccine is approved, or at least on the market, a rigorous regulatory procedure to assess quality, efficacy and safety must be undertaken. But really all they do is they just see if, here, the evaluation approval of regis... quality assessment. Once a marketing authorization is obtained, it starts with marketing with these fucks. A marketing authorization. Not if it's safe, no. You got to get your marketing authorization first.

2:01:53 Once that's obtained, each batch of vaccines must still be assessed for quality before release. This is done by both the manufacturer and an official European control laboratory. The activities of these laboratories are coordinated by the European Pharmacopeia Secretariat within the European Directorate for Quality of Medicines. Hello? Can't find anything about safety. But the European Pharmacopeia Secretariat also has the responsibility for developing legally binding monographs to ensure appropriate quality control and harmonized quality standards across manufacturers. What does that mean? It doesn't mean anything. No, it's just a bunch of gobbledygook. And that's it. In addition, all vaccines and pharmaceuticals are monitored after release onto the market for adverse events.

2:02:54 This surveillance allows both to refine the safety profile established during the product development and to detect rare events that may not have been apparent during the clinical development. It's always rare, isn't it? Yeah, rare. So I can't, if anyone can find anything, please, I'd appreciate that. I'm not very hopeful. And in New Hampshire, I think this is an AP report, the Keene area child believed to be infected with measles this report says, this is Concord, New Hampshire, was probably experiencing a reaction from the measles vaccine. So public, you're not at risk of a measles outbreak, state health officials said. So now we've, oh, about 5% of individuals vaccinated with the MMR vaccine develop a fever and rash reactions. These reactions happen because the body is responding to the vaccine. But everyone said, oh, the kid has the measles, which of course he did. I don't know. Yeah.

2:04:03 It's just interesting. Well, we still have Ebola going on in Congo or the piggy boat. I got the Ebola report here. They're from, I think, a CBS. They got one woman, one lone reporter is in the area reporting on Ebola. and this is her. Two-year-old Charity fights for her life in this Ebola treatment center. She was admitted today with her critically ill mother, Kabua Safi, who lies isolated in another plastic cube, too sick to tend to her little girl.

2:04:42 There have been major advances in the treatment of Ebola since the last deadly outbreak in 2014. Now patients are put in these plastic cubes which provides a protective barrier between the doctor and the patient. There's also a new vaccine which should be good news for the Democratic Republic of Congo in its fight against its deadliest outbreak to date. Except this epidemic is in a war zone. World Health Ebola manager Dr. Michelle Yao told us their hospitals are repeatedly being targeted by the more than 30 armed militia groups roaming the forests around the hot zones.

2:05:21 Any time that you have an incident, it takes weeks to recover. But the violence has not deterred Esperance Musinda from her work at the UNICEF Children's Unit. She herself is an Ebola survivor. Here, they don't wear protective gear as survivors are immune from further infection. The survivors look after babies suspected of contracting the virus but who desperately need a loving touch in order to thrive. I'm not afraid of Ebola, Musinda tells us. I'm afraid of the violence.

2:06:00 Yeah, that was interesting. They have a bunch of these Ebola survivors and they're just roaming around freely and they do all kinds of work that you would normally put in their right mind would do and that situation is very fuzzy at best and it's used and they're using it on the ground as fear tactics and one of our producers works with someone who's a family member of the current Congolese King will just call him the king and And apparently people were freaked out about the whole election. They had, or dousing themselves in alcohol or their hands, because they voted on the machines and they didn't like touching the machines. Everyone's cleaning their hands the whole time. People didn't show up. It's just used as control.

2:06:45 And now the Chinese, the Chinese official state news is saying, hey, don't worry about it. We have a vaccine in the works for Pig Ebola. It's all going to be OK. Don't look over here. There's nothing wrong with our pork industry. Oh, I haven't heard this. Well, it's Chinese. We're talking about that porcine fever. Yes. The African swine flu, I believe is the way they're calling it here. Vaccines tested. This is China News, CNS, China News Service. Chinese scientists have successfully developed two vaccine candidates for African swine fever virus. The Chinese Academy of Agricultural Sciences announced Friday. Lab tests have shown the candidates are biologically safe and effective in virus immunization. Their safety and effectiveness indexes are superior to similar research achievements in other countries.

2:07:38 So I guess we're good. It's all over. Don't worry about it. You know how the Chinese lie about this stuff. Yeah, well, they're producing enough to inoculate every pig in China. No way. I don't think you could do it. No, the pigs that have died now is already more than we have in America. It's crazy. The BBC did a great job on some more propaganda about Syria. And I'm not quite sure. Do you have any idea why The neocons want us to stay in Syria or want to still go and get Assad? Is it, I mean, is it something that I'm missing? Is it still the same old crap that we're dealing with? The West Clark 7? No, that could be good points. I don't know what they, I have no, I've never been, I've never fully understood what the neocons are trying to accomplish, to be honest about it, except rubble eyes. Well, so Syria,

2:08:38 And we already now have UN reports that the White Helmets staged stuff, that the chlorine attack was staged. You had the report just two days ago where they still say, oh, they must have killed 23 people for no reason. No, that was probably all fake and acted as well. And so these are all, you know, kind of the definition of false flags to draw a foreign war into the region, us and France. and Britain, and the BBC is just not stopping. Documents leaked from intelligence organizations in Syria suggest that human rights violations in the war there were premeditated and planned by the government. More than 5,000 pages of information have been obtained by campaigners in Washington. They include this text written allegedly by senior government security officials which we've translated and voiced. I have never heard the BBC do this.

2:09:37 So there's some text that some document that apparently was found and we're gonna find out who found it in a minute, which is hilarious They translated it and then they have some Arab National read it. Have you ever heard the BBC do this? No, not really. It gives it a whole different spin instead of just, hey, here's what the document said. No, no, we got an actor to voice it. In Washington, they include this text written allegedly by senior government security officials, which we've translated and voiced. We received information that terrorists are being treated in Al-Bur Hospital in Arrastan in Homs. We suggest to bomb it with artillery. And three days later, the hospital mentioned was bombed.

2:10:23 I've been speaking to Mohammed al-Abdallah, executive director of the Syria Justice and Accountability Center in Washington DC, and one of the people gathering the evidence and writing a report based on the documents. This is just like one of those jimok sitting in an apartment in in London. No, no sounds. Oh, yes This is the Syrian observation guys in DC. Mm-hmm I asked him how he got hold of the information in the first place So basically these documents were rescued and saved from abandoned security intelligence buildings

2:11:03 from inside Syria during the conflict. And also there's other sets of documents were were extracted by other organization, partner organization. You'll understand that many people have a vested interest in faking evidence in the Syrian conflict. You're absolutely sure that this is genuine stuff, are you? Absolutely sure this is genuine to ask you. Let me just step back. So this is the BBC, BBC World News, world renowned news. I have some guys on who are some think tank in Washington DC for Syria and he says now there's a lot of fakery going on are you sure this is the real deal? Oh yeah we're sure and that's cool with the BBC. To me this is this is a great report. You'll understand that many people have a vested interest in faking evidence in the Syrian conflict. You're absolutely sure that this is genuine stuff are you?

2:11:57 Absolutely sure this is genuine, it was rescued and preserved by our own team. We have records and videos and films inside the security intelligence buildings and we took this video inside the division also to counter the narrative that the ICHC continued to deny that humanitarian aid is ending in Assad's hand as well. Is what we've just heard potentially a smoking gun in terms of court evidence in the future against the Syrian government? I hope so, yes, absolutely. This is what we're trying to do. That's why we've rescued these documents and that's why we've done this really lengthy process of analysing thousands of pages. Do these documents prove, do you think, that President Assad is personally responsible for the atrocities that you document? We have not seen any documents signed by Bashar al-Assad himself in the analysis so far.

2:12:45 But however, the nature of the orders, the seniority and ranking of officials who signed these documents, and the nature of weapons deployed to conduct and deliver these attacks all suggest this is coordinated at the highest level. And Bashar al-Assad is, if not ordering, at least he's aware. That was Mohammed al-Abdallah who's head of the Syria Justice and Accountability Center, a campaign group in Washington DC. You're listening to the BBC World Service. Outstanding work BBC. No, I have no idea. I don't know why this continues, but it just it does continue. There's something either some untold cache of oil

2:13:31 that we're not... It could still be the Russia thing, you know? The Russians. It could have something to do with the Russians, it could have something to do with Israel. Yeah. Gosh, just a head shaker to me that the BBC, I mean, that is clearly propaganda. Yeah. You sure this is the real deal? Oh yeah, yeah, we got it ourselves. We got video of us getting it. I don't know. Did you... Another thing, let me get another clip here. What is this? This is the... This is something kind of interesting.

2:14:08 I don't know anything about this and I heard this clip. Play this insider dope on the... Oh no, this is something else. So they had this woman, I thought there should be kind of just an interesting educational segment. This woman is an ex-CIA. She's a specialist in disguise. She's the disguise specialist at the agency. And her name is Jonah Johnson. Jonna, Jonna mentioned you mentioned this to me maybe after a show or something. I think I sent you the clip. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's right Yeah, and this is her talking about how people use aliases And I thought I just for some reason found this to be fascinating because I didn't know any of this alias

2:14:48 These names CIA are closely controlled, they are managed, they are assigned to you. My name is number two. You end up with a name for your entire working career. Come again. Your true name is never on paper overseas. Ruby baby. Oprah would probably not be one of those names. This is my wife. Oprah any name that really drew attention would not be one of those names Cunningham was it that she Cunningham could be but we always had a middle initial dangers my middle name You always had three names. I mean you could abbreviate the middle initial, but you always had three names Huh the three names is interesting Exactly huh cuz whenever whenever we got someone killing a whole bunch of people usually three names. Oh

2:15:30 Yep, which means they had a CIA name to start with possibly that's possible. I love that fantastic Sorry, so she said yeah before you go on before as soon as she said everyone has assigned three names and you tend to use three and I thought about your old theories about these Phony the ones we had in the six-week cycle was always some always always three names always a three namer. Yeah, I Adam Clark Curry. I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. In fact, we do have a few people to thank. Not many of them with three names. Starting with Mark Hall. Oh, Sir Mark Hall. Let me just read this for a second.

2:16:23 Dear Adam and John, great shows of late. Happy belated birthday, John. And a hundo to Adam for boxes and packing tape. Keep up the good work. Really enjoyed the recent wedding of the Keeper and the Crackpots. So good to meet members of the Roundtable. Enjoyed talking to Mimi and was even granted a brief audience with John C. Dvorak. Truly the wedding of the year. And you were there, my friend. $167.69. Merci. Sir Rod. $150 also an appreciation for the wedding. This is this is Roderick. Roderick Velo. Yeah, he finally became a knight. He got his ring and everything so he's Sir Rod now. Very nice. Sir Sander and Zondam. $103.82. Mark Van Dyke. Wait a minute that's voice zero.

2:17:16 I saw this too. ITM gents and thank you for your courage. Congratulations with your marriage, Adam and Tina. And heck, why not to you as well, John and Mimi. LOL. Much love from your guy and family behind the scenes. Mark, Void Zero, Iris and Steven. Karma for the newlyweds and original bingo boom shakalaka and a bingo boom shakalaka little girl please. And may fortune be on all paths of no agenda hosts and listeners. Lots of love. Thank you, Mark. You didn't have to do that. It's very, very sweet of you and, and Steven. and Iris. Thank you. I will of course get you some bingo boom shakalaka. Brian Kaufman is Scottsdale, Arizona 7575. Baron Mark Tanner in Whittier, California. His twice monthly 6789. Steven Degina in Bethpage, New York 5746. I have a note here by the way. He needs a de-douching for starters. You've been de-douched.

2:18:14 Yeah, he says, a Canadian expat living in New York, been listening since Brexit. Thank you for your humor, insight and shenanigans. If you have the time, he wants a de-douching, you got that, and some karma we'll put at the end for you. Now I have Heilko Santema. Santema. Heilko Santema. Santa Ma. We have a big yellow thing. He's got some birthday thing coming up. There's a couple of things that went wrong here. So we we got his donation on the previous show. Somehow we wished him happy birthday, which was a little too early, but he actually became a knight. So he will be Sir Ruard of Markness and he wants Beaujolais and Reblochon.

2:19:05 Beaujolais et reblochon, what is this? Is this a wine I'm not familiar with? Reblochon, isn't that a cheese? I have no idea. Beaujolais, I know. He will be 46 on the 29th. In the morning, John and Adam, with all the new attendance at the round table on the last show, I got thinking about my own journey to knighthood. Had a feeling I was getting close to joining that illustrious crowd, but never bothered to check until now. Turns out, to my surprise, I have claimed... I could have claimed a title months ago. So henceforth, I would like to be known as Sir Ruard of Markness and would like to find Beaujolais and Roblochon at the round table. Thank you very much for your courage, and I am going to order that right now for

2:19:43 The ceremony. Thank you for your courage, Helco. He also has an F cancer he needs for a colleague. Oh, you know, I'm gonna give that to him right now. You've got karma. No, what's interesting is he sent the donation note to your email and it got bounced back because it contained porn. But it didn't, it's just he asked for an F-cancer. Yeah, that's what my point earlier. Well, that's your setup. I don't think so. Yes, it's your mail guy, yeah it is, your squirrel mail guy. I saw the headers, it came from your server.

2:20:27 Yeah, well, again, my point is well made. David C. Pugh, 5510, Double Nicholas on the dime, congratulations on your wedding. Michael Robinson in North Melbourne, Victoria, 5433. We have a couple of douchebag callouts in here. I don't see it. Yes, we have it here. Ah, here it is. Yeah. He's got a couple. He's not a knight. Mark Beecham of Melbourne for one. It's a long-winded note. People gotta tighten these douchebag callouts. Well, he's become a... he says, I qualified for a knight on show 1124. Please knight me as Sir Max...

2:21:16 Raka Tatansky, Knight of the Soviet Socialist Republic of Victoria. I would like to request Corona Extra and Peanut Butter M&Ms for the occasion. And the douchebag call out the bloke who hit him in the mouth hasn't donated. That is Mark Beecham of Melbourne. And that's the only one. So let me just make sure he is on the list. for knighting today, which I think he is Yes, and yeah, what does he want again at the roundtable? These interesting requests were roundtable Corona extra and peanut butter M&Ms. Got it. Okay. Thank you very much for your courage and thank you for your support 54 32 also comes from Matthew Cole pericone

2:22:08 Favorite news deconstruction. Sir Daddy cast of the Love House, 5250. In honor of his late grandmother's birthday on 525. Thank you, PD Love. Joel Cox, Glenshaw, Pennsylvania, 5191. Now these are the leftovers from the earlier 5191 donations, which are all wishing you a happy marriage. Thank you. Joel Cox in Glenshaw, Pennsylvania. Todd Strobel in Vancouver, Washington. So it's not pronounced that way. Nick Barnes, 5191. James Murray, Huntington Beach, California. Michael Hager in St. Louis, Missouri. Hocus Locus. Grand Duke Dwayne Melanson in Tigard, Oregon. Tony Tanzi. Dan Doering in

2:23:06 Then during an Eolia, Missouri, Jeffrey Fields in New Brownsvilles, Texas. Brian Matthews, Sir Midnight of the Rivers, Gulf Breeze, Florida. Dame Patricia Worthington steps in. John Stewart's son in Leicester, UK. Robert Kerback, John Bean, William Alston in Baltimore. Chris Boulton and that's the end of that little group. Thank you. Thank you very much. Me and the Keeper. And a reminder we have a special full-length Sir Chris Wilson crackpot and the Keeper end of show song which is it's an original tune and well worth listening to.

2:23:58 Sir Chris Sundberg, Knight of the Vortex Rings, state from Mercer Island, $51. Scott Nelson in Melbourne, Florida, $50.01. Now the following people are $50.00 donors, name and location if available. Mitchell Kaufman in Hillsboro, Oregon. Joe Winky in Santa Rosa. That's Joe from Jambo, Jambo Joe. Jambo Joe, Jambo. Go look up the Jambo products. They're fantastic everybody. You got some good new ideas. Anonymous G in Raleigh, North Carolina, Julian Robbins in Aptos, California, Jesus Allen in Austin, Texas, and last but not least Baron Allen being over here in Oak, Texas.

2:24:43 town, Oakland, California. I want to thank all these folks for producing show 1141 and hope we have another good donation segment on the next Thursday show. Yes, and thank you to everyone who came in under $50. Most of you will do that for if you're right under that for anonymity, but a lot of you are on programs. So you do both. And the subscription programs are very helpful to us. They do keep a base going. There's very low ones, you know, $4 a month, $5 a month. You can do 1111s, 33s, there's a number of good ones. Please check out all the opportunities at Dvorak.org slash N-A. And thank you for your courage. Karma's as requested. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Yay! That's an update!

2:25:33 You've got karma. Birthday, birthday, oh so much younger Well, it's kind of short actually, we only have two birthdays to look at. Hylko Sontema who turns 46 on the 29th and tomorrow, May 27th which is actually already today 54 years old and trips around the sun, our very own Sir Chris Wilson. We say happy birthday to both of you from everybody here at the Best Podcast in the Universe. Birthday, yeah, to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to-to

2:26:11 One on the list, Sir Stephen Oswego has upped his game and he changes his peers to the title of baronet for another $1,000 in support of the No Agenda podcast. Thank you for your courage sir Stephen of Oswego now brand-new freshly minted baronet one two three four We've got four knighting's to do one of them could be a dame. We don't know no we do know because he wants to be sir rib here, so we need blades at the ready coming coming Okay, I'll take that Michael Robinson, please all of you step up to

2:27:11 Sir Ruard of Marquiness and Sir Max Rockin Tatansky, Knight of the Soviet Socialist Republic of Victoria, gentlemen for you, hookers and blow, rentboys and chardonnay, Beaujolais and reblochon, Corona extra with peanut butter and M&Ms, warm beer and cold women, gerbils and ginger ale and mutton and meat. I ran out of stuff to put at the table. Go to noagendination.com slash rings and hand off your information to Eric DeShill, he'll get to you as soon as possible. Quick mention of our meetups that are coming up May 25th, Eastern North Carolina. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, also on the 25th Tel Aviv, Israel, May 29th, the 30th of May, Charleston, South Carolina, June 2nd, Sarasota, Florida, the 6th in Seattle, the 7th of June, Toronto, 8th of June, Oklahoma City, June 9th, Knoxville, somewhere there should be June 12th. I'd love to do a meetup in London. The Keeper and I will be there. If someone can get that at noagendameetups.com, we'd love to meet some of our UK folk. June 12th, Wednesday, June 12th would be the day for us.

2:28:13 After that is June 15th in Copenhagen. We won't be able to make that June 20th is Southwest London unfortunately We won't be able to to attend that so maybe we can get the same people to do a quickie on the on the 12th July 4th Seattle and July 13th in Atlanta and whoever sent us the Cuisinart ice cream maker. Thank you. I wish I knew who it was So I could thank you properly. It's got an anonymous Cuisinart ice cream maker? Yeah, it just showed up at the... There's no one or two quart. It's the big one. Yeah. It's nice. It was just an Amazon shipment, but there was no note, no... Yeah, Amazon fails to put notes in. They're supposed to put notes in. Was it in a big giant gift bag? No, it wasn't in a gift bag. It was just in a box. And that was it. Yeah.

2:29:03 You ever seen, you said, send as a gift, you check that box and you know it's just a bag. Oh yeah, or you say I want to add a note and they just print off a piece of paper with a note. Thanks. It's not even a nice card or anything. No, no, and it's a bag, the bag is just some cheap bag they throw everything in. Yeah, there's still there's still talk of me being one of the hosts of the European Song Festival for 2020 I think it'd be ideal if not. I do have a backup The Millennials here had a great idea We should do a twitch a twitch stream make so much sound even think about it And we could actually make money while doing it you know that we're gonna make money well twitch has a whole financial thing like people can know I didn't know that yeah, they hit a button and then money just pops into your account and

2:29:51 Oh nice. Yeah so we can literally just be showing a monitor of whatever's happening and we can be off-camera doing our snarky voiceover and if people like it, pling pling pling, they'll just be sending us money. I think this is a good idea. So every one-liner. Yes, yeah. We can do this John. We can do this. We have a whole year to prepare. I'm expecting that we will do it. Oh yeah, I'm not going to be hosting the show. No one's going to let that happen. You'll be hosting the show, then we won't do it. I'd do it by myself. And there's Adam. Look at him. Holy crap. Who made him up? Do they have makeup artists there on the show that actually know what they're doing? He looks like an old transvestite. Okay, thank you. I wanted to say something about... Let's hope he doesn't dance. Yeah, no kidding. That would be bad. Took a while on that one. Oh boy.

2:30:47 This milkshake mania, I wanted to talk about that for a second. Oh, jeez, I never even thought about talking about it, but you're right, it's probably worth talking about. We probably should talk about it. Yeah, it's very important. So Nigel Farage was walking around, someone threw a milkshake over him. This is now a thing, you know, and oh, it was interesting even on the... someone sent me a link from some a-hole somewhere on Reddit saying, oh, John and Adam should be worried, they're going to be throwing milkshakes. And I want to say something. Do you remember the pie era? Well, no. Yeah, there's a little era about seven, eight years ago where people got a pie in the face by some pie guy, this major pie character. Bill Gates got a pie in his face. Well, milkshakes are different for a very specific reason, but first I want to go back to the year 2000. Pim Fortan, two weeks before he was assassinated,

2:31:46 People were throwing cakes in his face. Yeah, and when and I did some research on this there is a when people start throwing food It is an actual act of desperation because food has value and and more importantly there is a connection between us and primates apes chimpanzees who throw shit and And I believe that the milkshake, particularly the chocolate milkshake, is a very primal thing that is deep in us as it's a metaphor for throwing feces at somebody. But it is... Did Faraj have a chocolate shake? Yes, chocolate shake, I believe. It is an extremely violent act.

2:32:40 And it should not be tolerated, it's not funny, and it pretty much always leads to something bad. The people who do this have a screw loose. It's different from hitting someone, which is a whole different area, but when you do the milkshake, It is a primal scream of frustration and anyone who does that is, in my mind, borderline dangerous. Yeah, I agree. It was a strawberry shake. Well, that's... What does that mean? I don't know. It's not dark enough to look like feces. But I think the comparison still holds.

2:33:27 It is, it cannot, it's not funny, it should not be allowed, people who do this need to be dealt with, it is very, very violent and people who do this are on the verge of a psychological breakdown. Yeah, this guy was a fanatical Remainer and a Corbin fan. Yeah. Well, the people who did that to Pim Fortuyn before he was assassinated were animal rights activists, greenies, and one of them, not the same one, but one of the same persuasion wound up assassinating him, shooting him in the head, right to his face. Boom, boom, goodbye. And by the way, he's now out free walking around. He served his time. It's a crazy country, the Netherlands.

2:34:15 That works. It should be locked up for good. No, we don't have that in the in the Netherlands There's no locked up for good. In fact, there's often a joke. It's easier to kill your wife than to divorce her much much cheaper You is much less hassle a couple of years in jail. You're good to go. Hmm. Sounds like yeah So I have nothing more to add other than this is not funny It should be dealt with as an extremely fun as a violent act. It's a violent act and And don't try that in Texas. Oh, imagine a bad idea in Texas. So I found they found a very funny clip Democracy Now did which is gonna be surprises. You know, you always have to wonder how serious everybody is about things when you have a clip like this floating around it doesn't get any play. This is Lindsey Graham

2:35:17 discussing impeachment. This is the basic theories of impeachment. I believe this is during the Clinton administration when he was still a congressman. And he could take part in impeachment proceedings. In 1999, the then Congressman Graham argued for the impeachment of President Bill Clinton for seeking to hide evidence of his affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky. This is what he said. You don't even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic if this body determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role. Because impeachment is not about punishment.

2:36:02 Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office. All right. I thought that was pretty good. I mean, I think it's bullcrap and nobody's ever going to go along with the program because of the fact that everybody in Congress is corrupt. Yes. So they're not, you know, they feel guilty about, you know, well, he's corrupt. Is he more corrupt than I am? I don't know. He more corrupt than Adam Schiff. That guy. Did you hear what happened to Naomi Wolf? Did you hear this? No. Oh, this was fantastic. So she's written a book. Um, I don't have the whole backstory. Let me see. I had the book here somewhere. The book is it's about outrage and killing, killing people for just for who they love. Here it is.

2:36:59 I always get Naomi Wolf mixed up with Naomi Klein. You know, this is a show problem in general. We do this all the time. And they're both left-wing nuts, but one of them has actually got some reasonable logic to her where she goes about her business. I think Wolf's the one I particularly don't like. Well, she's the author of the book Vagina. And the forthcoming book, Outrages, Sex Censorship and the Criminalization of Love. And she expected to discuss the historical revelations about people being killed for being gay, basically. And she went on the BBC to promote this. And now this book is coming out in a week from now.

2:37:51 And the host did something phenomenal. He looked up some of the stuff that was in the book, and it turns out she had misinterpreted an important term when it comes to killing people for who they love. In this case, it's about buggery, gay acts. And the BBC host just basically ruined her entire book before it even hit Amazon. You get sentences, as I mentioned, of penal servitude for 10 or 15 years and I found like several dozen executions but that was again only looking at the old Bailey records in the crime tables. Several dozen executions? Correct. And this corrects a misapprehension

2:38:37 that is in every website that the last man was executed for sodomy in Britain in 1835. I don't think you're right about this. One of the cases that you look at that's salient in your report is that of Thomas Silver. It says Teenagers were now convicted more often. Indeed that year, which is 1859, 14-year-old Thomas Silver was actually executed for committing sodomy. The boy was indicted for an unnatural offence, guilty, death recorded. This is the first time the phrase unnatural offence entered the Old Bailey records. Thomas Silver wasn't executed

2:39:19 Death recorded. I was really surprised by this and I looked it up. Death recorded is what's in I think most of these cases that you've identified as executions. It doesn't mean that he was executed. It was a category that was created in 1823 that allowed judges to abstain from pronouncing a sentence of death on any capital convict whom they considered to be a fit subject for pardon. I don't think any of the executions you've identified here actually happened. Well that's a really important thing to investigate. What is your understanding of what death recorded means? Death recorded, this is also from, I've just read you the definition of it there from the Old Bailey website, but I've got here a newspaper report about Thomas Silver and also something from the prison records that show the date of his discharge.

2:40:11 The prisoner was found guilty and sentence of death was recorded. Yeah. The jury recommended the prisoner to mercy on account of his youth. See, I think this is a kind of... When I found this, I didn't really know what to do with it because I think it's quite a big problem with your argument. Also, it's the nature of the offense here. Thomas Silver committed an indecent assault on a six-year-old boy. So, uh... Oops! God that's horrible. What happens the publisher is going well, we have fact-checkers, but ultimately we rely on the author What happens in a case like this? I mean can they pull the book back still or is it printed? They actually should pull the book back. Of course they have to the whole premise of the book is about being condemned and and killed for loving who you love and

2:41:01 This is like your vinegar book, you know, like all of a sudden, you know, vinegar kills you. I don't know, something went happen. I think you're smart actually for delaying the release. Make sure you have all your T's crossed and your I's dotted. You're very... We're finding out more and more weird stuff about vinegar. We're doing some more... Mimi's gotten into this like vinegar thing now. So she's digging up crazy stuff. She's taken the shaming to heart. Alright, we have a number of end of show clips as... Mentioned earlier Sir Chris the drunken the drunkard minstrel the song is titled the keeper It's an original soon available on compact discs and cassettes We have a end of show from Tom Stark weather always fun and Jesse Coy Nelson She's been knocking it out of the park recently so that is coming your way in a moment if you're listening to us on no agenda stream.com

2:41:59 We've got the Mark and George show, episode number 29 on deck for that. And I am coming to you from the frontier of Austin, Texas. It's the capital of the drone star state. We're in FEMA, region number six on the governmental maps in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And I'm from northern Silicon Valley where we're still waiting for 1999 KW-4 to go swinging by. I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Thursday right here on No Agenda. Please remember to support us at dvorak.org slash NA. Until Thursday, adios mofos and such. Is this a good woman or what? No, I just, I can't remember any. She's a keeper. Not only does she pack light, but she donates to the show. Yeah, when packing light, I would put high priority on it.

2:42:57 I love this one. This is great. Yay! Spend my younger years surrounded by rock stars Actresses and models, well you see I bear the scars Resign myself to an OTG love life John C. Dvorak as my wife Pickin's pretty slim when he gets to our age And options they're narrow on a broadcaster's way But Bettina, you still love me the way I am I'm a radio ham Our love is wider than on-look-at-monation Our love is deeper than my loss in aviation Each episode our love grows deeper One reason why you're the keep Never thought I'd find my text

2:44:13 But you came here from Chicago, so I'll thank Obama as well. You know my love, I'll always be there, With a retarded phone and old VJ head. Our love is stronger than 5G radiation, Our love is hotter than a Bernard radio station. Send flirtatious texts through Another reason why you're the keeper Well I'm perfect but this short beat's been single It's material for Sir Chris to write his jingle And be all for free Inspired by the love between you and me As we drive off on our Airstream honeymoon But Sunday on a Thursday happens all too soon

2:45:21 Can monetize the love tweet you and make the perfect exit strategy Our love is wider than all of good mo'nation It's deeper than molasses in aviation Our love is stronger than 5G radiation Our love is hotter than a burning radio station Tourette's goes away when I see ya Another reason you're the keeper Then I saw your face, now I'm a Another reason you're the keeper Me and a known cosmos procedure Another reason you're the keeper Health insurance costs, they're getting steeper Another reason you're the keeper Turn off my hearing aid so I can hear

2:46:36 Nickname according to the chatroom, Tina the Keeper. Tina the Keeper. and she'd be keeping you. So I walked into the cabinet room, you had the group, Cryin' Chuck. To watch what happened in the White House would make your jaw drop. Crazy Nancy, I tell you what, I've been watching her and I have been watching her for a long period of time. She's not the same person. Jaw-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba- Jobbobbobbs. She's not the same person. Jobbobbs. She's bad boss. She jobs. Uh, she's lost it. Let's go for jobs. You all saw me minutes later. I was at a news conference. I was extremely calm. Comer New York. I was probably even more so in that room. So I was extremely calm. Comer New York.

2:47:35 Let's vote for jobs! In the morning Generals gathered in their masses This is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years Just like witches at black masses When I first came to office, one of the first meetings I had was at the Pentagon with generals Evil minds that plot destruction Bolden has always said let's go to war but he's not the one who's gonna go in the forefront. He's a coward. The leaders of Iran are racketeers. Behind every problem is Iran. They heard what you said in 2016 and liked it when you said no more stupid wars.

2:48:34 You've got a rogue president in the White House surrounded by these uber-hawks that thirst for another war with Iran. The International Atomic Energy Agency has never found Iran in contravention of stipulations in the deal. If Iran wants to fight, that will be the official end of Iran. Never threaten the United States again. I'm not somebody that wants to go into war. In the United States, heading towards another Middle East showdown. This time with Iran. So you can go down! The best podcast in the universe! Dvorak.org slash N-A-

2:49:24 Sharp as a tack.