Episode 114 · Sunday, 19 July 2009

Obama's Pitch

Executive security reaches a fever pitch at the ballpark as the federal government prepares for a massive, liability-free immunization campaign and mandatory national service.

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About this episode

President Barack Obama took the mound at the MLB All-Star Game wearing a visible Kevlar flak jacket beneath a Chicago White Sox jacket, a security measure that physically restricted his first pitch. While mainstream media focused on the aesthetics of his denim, the heavy body armor signaled a heightened state of executive protection. This atmosphere of control extends to the launch of Serve.gov, where a board comprised of energy and pharmaceutical executives oversees a new push toward mandatory national volunteerism for American youth.

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius signed a decree granting vaccine manufacturers like Novartis total immunity from liability regarding the upcoming H1N1 swine flu rollout. The World Health Organization has ceased tracking individual cases, fueling claims that the pandemic is a social engineering project designed to mandate experimental adjuvants like MF59 and squalene. Meanwhile, the Credit Card CARD Act and the transition of unemployment benefits to Visa debit cards allow financial institutions to collect 2% transaction fees on government assistance while building detailed consumer dossiers. In California, marijuana has surpassed milk and grapes as the state's most valuable crop, valued at $17 billion annually.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak highlight the architectural shift in San Francisco lofts, noting that modern urban residences now mirror the restricted access and heavy doors of minimum-security prisons. The duo also reviews the raw food scene at Alive and welcomes Kent Zeisser of Clovis, New Mexico, to the No Agenda knighthood following a significant contribution to the show's independent production model.


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CHAPTER 01 / 24 Discussion

San Francisco Loft Architecture, Minimum Security Prison Comparison

San Francisco loft apartments are designed with security features that resemble minimum security prisons, featuring restricted entrances and heavy doors. Observations of these modern living spaces suggest they could easily be converted into detention centers by simply adding bars to the windows. A visit to Folsom Prison for an article provided the basis for comparing these stylish urban residences to correctional facilities.

san francisco· lofts· folsom prison· architecture· security· prison design

00:01 Put on some clothes! And from the Twitter homepage with 58,274 followers for The Real Dvorak, I'm John C. Dvorak. As you told me that the undisclosed loft location is actually built as a minimum security prison intended to keep me in when appropriate. People haven't noticed this but I noticed this a number of years ago that all these you know these lofts that they've been building all over the country and San Francisco has a lot of them if you're actually taking analyze the way they're set up and there's a couple around the corner from the MeVeo offices by the way. All right the minimum security prison after you told me that John. Boom we got disconnected.

01:14 What is it with the minimum security prison in San Francisco? The first time I went to one of these specially built lofts in San Francisco, I noticed that they had, for one thing, you can't get into it except through usually one entrance or a couple of locked doors through the back, but they're extremely secure. but this is so secure that it's almost completely way over the top because there are apartment buildings all over the place that are built normally. Why are these places built like, you know, these, they're built like prisons. They have, it's impossible that you could be, all you have to do is just imagine putting bars on the windows and then you could lock people up for as long as you wanted. It's so true. Everything here is built like a prison door too. I mean, it's modern and it's stylish.

02:00 But now, you know, now that I think about it, it's like easy to lock me in, that's for sure. Yeah, you can never get out of there. I can't, I don't even think I can break these windows. Seriously, I don't think I can break through them. You could jump out the window, but they could put bars, like I said, if you put bars up, and I'd love to do a look and see how hard that would be, because I think most of these places have got set up so you could easily put bars up. I think it's just to imprison people. The first one I ran into was like, it was so much like a, because I actually years ago had visited a couple of prisons for an article.

02:38 including Folsom and It just reminded me so much of a person that it was like what is the do who wants to live here? I'm thinking to myself. Oh, okay. Okay. No more espresso for you my friend And I'm not talking about your place your place is roomy at least But that would be the other thing is what so what are you complaining about? We're feeding you You have a kitchen You got two bathrooms. What's your problem? I must say though a couple of things happened over the past few days that I'm really moving into survivalist mode, dude. I am We're gonna get water food cash. Well, please yeah, listen, so two things one, you know, I still have a credit card from the UK and you go online with your with your online bank and

CHAPTER 02 / 24 Discussion

Barclays Visa Debit Card, International Travel Security Hurdles

International travel with a Barclays Visa debit card from the United Kingdom has become increasingly difficult due to aggressive fraud protection measures. Users must now pre-register travel dates and locations online to prevent cards from being blocked automatically. Even with correct passwords and pre-authorization, multiple purchases in San Francisco triggered security freezes and calls from fraud protection units.

barclays· visa· debit card· fraud protection· united kingdom· san francisco

03:28 And they already say, oh, if you're traveling... So it used to be you could just take your credit card, your debit card and go wherever you wanted and it just worked. Now these days you have to go online with your online banking provider and you have to tell them what country you're going to be in between which dates because otherwise your card won't work at all. So that's pain in the ass number one. Of course it's all for my protection, not for theirs, for my protection even though they're completely liable. And then you make like three or four purchases and then and let's say you have a combination. This is what actually happened to me I bought at two different stores that I went on one the way we wait that way the background what card were using I was using a Visa debit card from where from the United Kingdom from Barclays Okay, okay here in San Francisco in San Francisco

04:18 I use it at two different stores, purchases a couple hundred, a couple hundred both places. And then I go online to purchase tickets and you have this visa protection program where after you purchase something, upon checkout it brings up a separate visa page. It's actually an embedded like widget or something and you have to, if you signed up for the visa protection program, yet another security step for my protection you have a password and so I enter you know it's like the fourth the fifth and the tenth letter of your password and then it says I'm sorry we can't complete it this time and the cards completely blocked and then I start getting you know calls from the fraud protection unit. I'm like what point is it just gonna freaking work?

CHAPTER 03 / 24 Discussion

AT&T Customer Service, Wireless Account Verification Issues

AT&T wireless service experienced significant administrative failures during an international trip to Amsterdam, resulting in a suspended account despite correct verification answers. The carrier demanded physical faxes of passports and lease agreements even after a $700 bill was paid in full. While the corporate structure is described as oppressive, an internal AT&T systems programmer acting as a consumer advocate eventually resolved the technical issues.

at&t· wireless service· blackberry· fraud division· customer advocacy· world connect

05:01 You know, we saw that you made a couple of purchases, but I told you that I was in the United States. I used my visa protection password. Oh yes, but it's for your protection Mr. Curry. But the creepy thing is, is they just turn this on and off at seams at will. So that's one. Then we signed up for AT&T. We got a Blackberry with the AT&T as the carrier service. And first of all, it was almost impossible to get the World Connect, which is a $3 add-on monthly. So you can then instead of paying $1.99 per minute, you pay $0.08, which is a normal fee to call overseas. And you select which countries you're going to call. So it took a week to get that put on because they're like, who are you? Why are you? Do you even exist? All right, whatever. So I go through. And actually, Rosie did that for me at the office.

05:54 Then, we're in Amsterdam last week and I get a call, well we've suspended your wireless accounts because we need to verify you. Like, okay. And this woman who was very aggressive by the way and kind of, well not kind of, she was a Nazi. She's like, okay, what other addresses did you live in New Jersey? I said, I've only lived in one address in New Jersey. Well how about, and she named all these places like Fairfield and Bergen and all these different counties. Nope, never lived there. Nope, never lived there. How about Great Neck, New York? Nope, never lived there. Well, this is all according to your credit report. I said, well what credit report is it? Well, it's based on your social security number. He said, well you have my social security number, you know, so you should know. Well, since you can't answer the questions correctly, we have to keep you suspended. Like, but I'm answering the questions correctly. I didn't live there. That's not me. This is me. And I go through the, you know, there are two addresses which did occur. I've only lived in two places in the States previous to this.

06:54 So he's like, no service for you! Okay, no service for me. So we get back. We need to get a clip that one. So we get back and there's like a $700 bill, which of course is mainly because we couldn't get the World Connect option or whatever. So we made a number of calls. And the two wireless cards are also on that bill. It's all on one bill. So I pay the $750, whatever it is, and they turn their service back on. on. Like so no verification, whatever. And yesterday the thing's not working. I call up and said, well, yeah, have you spoken to the fraud division? I said, no, I haven't spoken to the fraud division. I said, well, you know, you have to fax us your passport and your lease agreement and a utility bill. And I'm like, you took my fricking money, turned it back on and then turn it back off

07:47 off again. It said you guys are horrible. Well, you know, we're so sorry. And, you know, so now I'm just in this, this, of course, AT&T is the government as you know, they're all connected. They use each other for their own business, wiretapping, etc. It's like they have too much control. I mean, we just have to resort to having lots of cash, having gold as a backup, having lots of water, lots of food and tin cans with string because I don't know how else we're going to communicate. And it's just frightening, these guys turn your shit on and off at will. And it goes on and on. I recall the day I had gotten into some beef with AT&T and I had tried to find a public relations department. I tried to do this, I tried to do that. And then I said, it's impossible to work with these people. So I wrote this scathing column in PC Magazine during, you know, when they have like a hardcover edition going out to a million people. And it's like,

08:59 Nothing. Nobody called. No one cared. Well, I will say, remember when I had the DSL line problems, I will hand out a little prop to, not specifically to AT&T. I was twittering, I'm like, this is crazy, these guys are messed up, it's all screwed up. And then one guy who's a systems programmer within AT&T sent me a note, he said, Adam, just give me the number that you're having problems with because we are allowed to become a consumer advocate. Apparently they have a program within AT&T where anyone who hears of some customer having a problem can become an automatic customer advocate and they can escalate stuff up pretty highly. And I have to say, I gave the guy my number because he wrote a beautiful email and he explained how the whole program worked. And within a day everything was fixed. Then all of a sudden stuff came together and it just worked.

09:52 But of course, I'm still getting calls from AT&T saying, is your line working? We have trouble to close all tickets. Please don't touch a thing. It's working fine. So somewhere within AT&T, of course, there are great people who work there and who want to help and get things done. But in general, it is the Third Reich. Yeah, it's a pretty crummy operation. That's why I like Comcast. Yeah, I'd love to get some, get me some Comcast. That would be beautiful. They're not letting you. AT&T, like I said the other day, has their big offices up the street from where you are. Yep, 2nd Street. Which is also the CIA place. And they have to keep an eye on you, so you're not going to get any Comcast. Yeah, John was nice enough to drive Mickey and I out to a specific bank outside of San Francisco because of course I don't want to be a part of the government banks, which are Bank of America, Citibank, etc. And on the way back, you know, John's doing this whole shtick like,

CHAPTER 04 / 24 Discussion

Barack Obama MLB All-Star Game, First Pitch Body Armor

President Barack Obama wore visible body armor and a flak jacket under a White Sox warm-up coat while throwing the first pitch at the MLB All-Star Game. The restrictive Kevlar gear affected his physical movement, resulting in a pitch that landed short of home plate. Media coverage focused on his choice of "mom jeans" rather than the heavy security apparel he was wearing on the field.

barack obama· mlb all-star game· first pitch· body armor· kevlar· media criticism

10:52 Yeah, don't let this guy get any Comcast. We gotta get him hooked up to our surface. So we can listen in on him. And you think I'm wrong? No. No, you're not. So just to change the topic for the people out there so we don't keep pounding, we're going to talk about swine flu in a little while because we've got, you know, both of us apparently spent the whole week looking at everything. Swine flu, yeah. But you know, it was something we keep putting off. Oh, by the way, before we do that, So there was Obama was at the All-Star game. Oh man, I had this on my list. I have the clip ready. I've got it now. I have the clip. So here's the deal. This is actually a complaint about the media again. Yes. Obama comes out to throw out the first pitch and by the way they had a clip of him on another show throwing out a first pitch years ago. He does throw like a girl. It's the gayest pitch you've ever seen in my life.

11:51 But here's the but here's the thing I was I didn't until I saw it to the older pitch I thought well, maybe it's because he's so constricted because he was wearing so much body armor He was look like the Michelin man and nobody pointed this out. I saw that immediately The guy is like completely flak jacket it out. He's got he's like Kevlar underwear on Yeah, so he's got these, they've criticized him on all these shows for wearing mom jeans, you know, these big fronted old fashioned jeans an old woman would wear. And then he had the white socks, a white socks warm up coat, which was huge because he had kevlar on.

12:31 And he obviously had a bunch of stuff wrapped around his legs. I'm surprised he could walk. And so he comes waddling out and not one media person says, wow, this guy's really flat-necked. I know. They're so stupid. Well, it's not really media. the fourth uh... branch of government whenever they are there and there and allows you to job is getting worse but it but he does see the even with all that crap on which i can understand he moved by that's what i thought he was like what he had so much she was just so armored up to the point of when you look at when you look at the pitch and you and you analyze it it is exactly like girls throw overhand because girls are i think i'm built actually to be able to throw throw a ball that way

13:17 And it's just like, uh, it's, it was, eh. You can see my arm doing it, right? Eh. like pushing it through the air yeah well when I saw him do the earlier pitch like from years earlier somebody had done one of the shows they had a bunch of different people showing them throwing I mean like George Bush who who was owned a baseball team throws like a normal man he threw a strike when he did the opening pitch it's not that hard it's not that far it's only 60 feet for God's sake but but they showed Mariah Carey which was the absolute best one she planted the ball I swear to God about one foot in front of her yeah

13:52 Kaboom! It didn't even roll. Mariah, it's not football. You're not supposed to spike it. You're supposed to throw it. It was hilarious. But I know and I want to say I'm not the most masculine guy in the world, okay? And I think that if I went out with all this body armor and Kevlar and you're nervous, you know, you know, I'm pretty sure I would throw a wild pitch but it would at least it would look kind of manly. Well I'm saying if you're really nervous you don't think you can hit somewhere within the range of the catcher. Fire went over his head! Yeah, right. I mean it looked like a wild pitch, just a rocket over his head, just throw it as hard as you can. And may I point out that I did not see anywhere in the news media anything but his pitch. The cameras did not switch to the catcher.

14:42 You do not see where the ball goes. Yeah, no you do. I saw it numerous times. I didn't see it. It could land anywhere. It was a big looping pitch that landed about two feet in front of the plate coming down. I couldn't find that. Really? Yeah, no, it's all over. The catcher had to actually step over the plate and catch the ball in front of the plate. Well Fox didn't show it and Fox is complicit in this and we'll get to that. I think we're probably talking about the same thing so go ahead. Well, that was it. I just wanted to talk about the body armor and the fact that nobody noticed By the way Bill Gates when he gave it the first through a first pitch out some years ago at a game I talked to one of the athletes that was at the game. He said they had to take bill Behind somewhere I guess in some training area and show him how to throw because he couldn't throw at all the bullpen so producer Jack Hockman sent me this clip and he said, you know, so after this first pitch and this was on Fox and

CHAPTER 05 / 24 Discussion

Serve.gov, Mandatory Volunteerism and Corporate Influence

The launch of Serve.gov and the Corporation for National and Community Service signals a move toward mandatory volunteerism for American citizens. The board of directors includes representatives from the pharmaceutical and energy industries, suggesting a deep tie between government initiatives and big business. Critics argue these programs are designed to habituate the public, particularly children, to working for the state without compensation.

serve.gov· corporation for national and community service· volunteerism· pharmaceutical industry· barack obama

15:38 They roll out this, well you could call it a PSA, but I'll just call it a commercial. And you really see how things tie in. And you might as well start looking at the website, John, serve.gov, because that's a part of this. I'll play a bit of this clip here. They are the brightest stars in the game that has for generations been at the center of our national life. Heirs to a tradition of iconic heroes and groundbreaking pioneers. sportsmen whose skill and determination... So what you're seeing here is you're seeing all classic baseball footage. ...whose resilience and focus have inspired us when we needed it most. Okay, let me fast forward to the good bits here. ...to give them that chance to give... Those are just five of the 30 all-stars among us being honored tonight.

16:30 They in turn are just 30 of the thousands of Americans who were nominated by their families, friends and neighbors for this honor. So many Americans just like them are eager to serve. And we're doing everything we can to give them that chance to give back and help us meet our nation's most pressing challenges. I hope tonight's showcase of service will be an inspiration, a model for what is possible and a call to action. You can answer that call by going to Serve.gov to find out how you can get involved in service activities in your local area. Now if you go to Serve.gov, and you'll never get through all of it today, John, because it goes so deep and you see that there's all kinds of big pharmaceutical guys on the board of Serve.gov. This is a complete wind-up, just to use a baseball analogy,

17:23 uh... for the whole give act and for the uh... enslavement of our children this is a part of the uh... mandatory volunteerism and it's uh... the planet through sports just really uh... really smart well it may have been smarter some years ago since nowadays kids don't care about sports But that's a funny idea the you know this is interesting to me because I've noticed and I because I started picking this up there was somebody on the other day to I've been watching some of these shows and and there's a lot more mentions than I can recall in in the last few years of the Peace Corps That's that's one. I was in the Peace Corps and it's the greatest thing I ever did yeah, well if you if you look at serve gov and

18:16 I wonder if this cost 18 million dollars to do. Oh, they actually have this video now on the homepage, okay. But you want to go to aboutserve.gov and then, where was it? Oh no, I can't find everything. Oh yeah, here it is. Serve.gov is managed by the Corporation for National and Community Service at nationalservice.gov. Now, have you ever heard of the corp... if you say corporation, It does not imply it's a moneymaker. Moneymaker doesn't imply something for profit. Am I crazy when I when I read this? I'm looking at about serve.gov, blah, blah, blah. Where is it? Oh, it's managed by the corporation for now. OK, so then you go to National Service dot gov. I mean, this is what I mean. You get you get that. And this is all like it's one thing after another. How much money are they wasting on this crap? And it's energy guys. It's pharma guys.

19:18 It's like the government and big business just up each other's ass. Right, but now they want you to work for free. For free. And we want to sign into law that you will work for free. You will work for free. That's all the unionism crap that should be going on with the Democrats. You don't hire Democrats to do this stuff with corporations. Come on. You will obey. You will obey. What's the A and the L? Huh? There's like stories of service and have these little like these look like buttons that you'd get you'd receive one has an A on it one has an L on it. I was looking at the National Service timeline which of course starts with the cooperative education movement founded at the University of Cincinnati in 1903 go figure

CHAPTER 06 / 24 Discussion

Unemployment Benefits, Visa Debit Card Fees

Unemployment benefits in the United States have shifted from paper checks to Visa debit cards, allowing financial institutions to profit from the system. Visa reportedly collects a 2% fee on transactions made with these cards, and funds may expire if not used within a six-month window. This transition ensures that a portion of government assistance is diverted to private banking corporations.

unemployment· visa· debit cards· banking fees· dennis cruz

20:14 Well, that's the slow-moving timeline. But there we are now it's 106 years. But there's this AmeriCorps, there's all this stuff in here man and it's and it's all leading up to mandatory volunteerism. Here's the mandatory. You will volunteer. No, you know what it means? You will obey me. I just want to hop back to the system of credit cards and debit cards, etc. Pretty interesting blog post by producer Dennis Cruz. He's unemployed at the moment. I think we have talked about this on a previous episode of the show. Back in the day, John, have you ever been unemployed in the United States? Have you ever collected unemployment? Yeah, years and years ago I did. And how was your unemployment given to you?

21:08 You have to go in and it comes as a check but you have to go and check in all the time and they used to be really tough on you. It comes as a check you say? Well that would be the important point. It no longer comes as a check. You get a visa debit card. Oh yeah, right. I don't think we talked about this but I know about this. So you don't get a check anymore that you can cash. No, you get a Visa debit card which by the way if you don't use your money within I think a six month time period it goes away. They take it away. Now of course it being a Visa debit card, every single time you use this debit card there's a I think a 2% fee that Visa is making. Yeah. And they're making money off of the unemployment system. Just how much unemployment is spent every single year is given to people who need it and then take 2% of that. Don't you love these guys? I fucking hate them!

CHAPTER 07 / 24 Discussion

Credit Card CARD Act, White House Transparency Concerns

The Credit Card Accountability Responsibility and Disclosure (CARD) Act, signed in May, is presented by the White House as consumer protection but contains provisions for increased data tracking. The official White House website provides summaries and videos of the legislation but lacks direct links to the full text of the bill. Critics suggest the fine print allows credit card companies to build dossiers on users for government reporting.

card act· white house· transparency· credit card legislation· data tracking

22:04 I want them all to die! It pisses me off! This is an outrage! So ByteLaw just sent me this note, by the way, just before we leave the other topic. Gerald Walpin, who was the Inspector General for the Corporation of National and Community Service until President Obama fired him, argues in the lawsuit that the firing is politically motivated and broke a 2008 law governing how watchdogs can be dismissed. Anyway, so on this so now I'm getting interested in these credit cards right and I go to Whitehouse gov because I died Hey, it's a probably cost a hundred million dollars to build and and I'm looking at the featured legislation and So of course, there's the family smoking prevention and tobacco control act which which I love you should read, you know And here's what the White House is doing, which is really interesting is

22:54 If you go to featured legislation on the homepage, this was signed May 22nd by the way, the Credit Card Accountability Responsibility and Disclosure Act, acronym being CARD, and you click on it, then it takes you to a page which shows you a video of the president talking about it, and it gives you the White House summary. Okay, it gives you the summary and this and I get of course I get immediately suspicious It's like you're gonna give me a summary which of course is what all journalists will go. Oh, that's really handy I don't actually have to look at the bill Where are you getting these voices? Yeah, I don't know it's just it's a good one. I'm channeling You should do a whole show with that voice

23:40 And so all I had to open up in a different browser because of course it doesn't the White House doesn't work in opera Can you believe that? Hello, John. Yes, you're still there. Okay. Well, I was I got a little free Well now it's now now it's not loading. Anyway, if you can look at that site for me You'll see that nowhere. Is there a link on that page to the actual bill? Oh Well, where's the transparency? Where's the bill? Well, you have to then Google it. Oh, well that stinks. So here it is. So here's the new era for credit cards and then it has, you know, the signing of the bill and then the White House fact sheet. Okay, and if you look at this page, nowhere is there a link. So then I click on White House fact sheet.

24:27 And it's a press release and it gives you the highlights, which of course is all the good stuff. And not anywhere is there a link to the actual bill, which of course you then Google it. And we may have talked about this, but it's good to remind people that this bill actually allows credit card companies to build an entire profile on you based upon your purchases and to give that information to the government. So they trump up this whole thing like, oh yeah, now of course the banks are going to protect me and the credit card companies, they don't want to screw me. They can't raise rates and do all these horrible things. But in the fine print, that's where you read what's actually going on is now we can track you. In fact, we're obliged to track you and to report back to the government on everything we find about you. A dossier. A dossier, indeed.

CHAPTER 08 / 24 Discussion

American Express, Fraud Detection and Merchant Fees

American Express utilizes specific algorithms to detect stolen cards, such as flagging multiple gas station purchases followed by high-end retail transactions. While the card is reliable for international travel, many smaller merchants refuse to accept it due to transaction fees that range from 3% to 4%. These fees are significantly higher than those charged by Visa or MasterCard.

american express· fraud detection· merchant fees· credit card security· gas stations

25:21 So I'm like, I'm just going back to cash. I'd just rather walk around with... We've done that kind of in our family for reasons that we don't have any Visa or MasterCards. We do have American Express. And of course, because they almost went out of business themselves, they lowered everybody's limits to next to nothing. But by the way, I've traveled all over the world with my American Express card, and I still do. And they track you, of course, and they can kind of tell where you are. especially if it's the only card you're using. And I've never really had it rejected except once about 15 or 20 years ago when I was trying to log into something that required a credit card and it kept screwing over the number and I tried it two or three or four times and it just stopped the account because it looked like I was hacking it. Or hacking a password. You entered too many times? Yeah.

26:13 But I've never had a problem. It always surprises me because I'll have somebody, like I have to give a speech someplace and everything's prearranged for me so I don't even buy a ticket. So American Express doesn't know that I have an airline ticket and I end up in Madison, Wisconsin. Oh, and then they go, whoops, how did he get there? No, it's never a problem. They just say, well, this guy travels a lot, and this makes some sense, and they let it go. By the way, I'm going to repeat this for people who haven't heard one of the earlier shows, and you can test this for yourself. Because I heard a lecture from the American Express folks once about fraud and how they deal with it. And one of the best ways, if you want to test somebody's card and you want to get their card killed on the spot, you do the following.

26:57 You get two separate gasoline tanks full of, you get to fill up two gas tanks full. You haven't mentioned this, yeah I like this one. You go fill up a tank of gas and then bring your buddy over there and fill up his tank and then go buy some Nike tennis shoes. Because that is what all the hip hoppers do when they steal a card. The guy says, the profile's the same, as soon as they steal a card they start filling up their buddies gas tanks. Which I think is kind of noble. It's like Robin Hood. That's the way it should be. Hey, pretty girl looking for new friends. Stop Skyping me. Okay, just stop. I hate it when people do that.

27:38 about American Express the problem I have is that many stores won't take American Express anymore because American Express's fees I believe are closer to three or four percent versus Visa MasterCard. Yeah, that's always been the problem. Or they'll say, hey yeah you can use American Express but I'm gonna put the surcharge on you. Yeah actually I find it to be not that often that that happens. I don't buy, I actually try to use cash Oh, there we go again. There's your router, John. I'm telling you. Or maybe we're getting too close to the truth. I might as well just hang up. It's not even going to be worth trying right now. Oh, are you back? Hello? Yeah. Oh, you were gone for a second there. Okay, well I was going to make a note and then fix that in the post. I'm not going to fix that because the minute we get close to the truth, that's when all of a sudden the audio goes away.

CHAPTER 09 / 24 Discussion

Private Banking, Mechanics Bank and ATM Rebates

Mechanics Bank, a smaller private institution on the West Coast, offers benefits such as rebating ATM service charges that larger "government-owned" banks like Bank of America and Citibank do not. Using a private bank is framed as a way to avoid the oversight associated with major financial institutions that received federal bailouts.

mechanics bank· atm fees· private banking· bank of america· citibank

28:34 So I deal with a little bank in the West Coast called Mechanics Bank and they rebate all the service charges that these ATMs scam. I really don't understand why you're going to mention the name of the bank. That makes no sense to me. Are you looking for trouble? They call you at home. So the, no I'm looking to plug this bank. The point is that I've used this ATM card all over the place. worldwide and I'm always getting get I never have any issues at all it's just I mean that's because you're a private bank they're not selling out to the government the government doesn't own them like that like the government like that's supposed to be us owns Bank of America own Citibank what else do they own what are the banks they own everything don't don't we don't we own everything now no they're owning a lot of real estate real estate insurance automobiles

29:28 From one of our producers. Hey you guys mentioned that all Obama does is TV appearances. Hello. Don't you guys remember? There are two Obamas I Don't know why they didn't put the other Obama out there to throw the baseball They should have put the the athletic Obama out there to do it. He's the one who dribbles the basketball makes three-pointers See I'm having trouble Kind of putting these two things together the guy can shoot can dribble and shoot a three-point jumper But he can't throw a baseball is it there's got to be two Obamas good point very good point. Oh, I like that We had our first hate crime guilty verdict in on on Daga County No, that's not the first they have it. They've had this in California on and Daga County just because we were talking about it and

CHAPTER 10 / 24 Discussion

Alive Raw Food Restaurant, San Francisco Dining Review

Alive, a raw food restaurant in San Francisco, serves dishes like ravioli and hamburgers made entirely from uncooked ingredients such as sunflower seed puree and shaved beets. While the flavors are described as excellent, the pricing is noted as high, with a dinner for two costing approximately $120. The high cost of raw and organic food is compared to the premium prices found at Whole Foods.

alive restaurant· san francisco· raw food· organic wine· sunflower seeds· whole foods

30:16 And we were trying to figure out what the difference was between a regular crime and a hate crime. Apparently it's a regular, the regular killing, second degree murder, is 15 years to life. And because it was a hate crime, it's 20 years to life. Like it makes a difference. By the way, this was an African American citizen who killed a transgendered person. Huh, isn't that like minus and minus equals plus or something? I don't know. It's weird. Okay, so here we go You went to a raw food restaurant. We need to review. Yes, I go waiting This is the the restaurant called alive. It's in San Francisco Of course now I don't know exactly where it is. You could look it up for me John while I'm doing the review

31:07 or I could look it up real. No, go ahead do the review. Every time you go on the web the thing dies on you. Bullshit. It's your connection. In fact, don't go to the website because we'll just lose the connection. Now this is, I think there's only, there's one other place in San Francisco that does raw food but that's more like a takeaway place. It's a bar slash take away. This is on Lombard down in the middle of nowhere. Lombard down in the middle of nowhere and it only has six or seven tables And the whole idea behind, and I took Mickey there because she's really into all kinds of macro-bionic stuff as I call it. And I said, you'll probably like this. She's like, oh yeah, I love raw food.

31:46 And they have a menu and everything you get is made of, well, obviously raw food. But they put on the menu things like hamburger, pasta, and you're thinking like, hey, yeah, I'll try a raw food pasta. That could be kind of cool. I'll try a raw hamburger. Yum! Well, the guy next to me who had also never been to this place, he had the hamburger and his face was priceless. I think he might have been a VC or something, you know, a divorced VC. He looked kind of like lonely and hopeless but yet incredibly wealthy. He was having the hamburger. I was having the pasta and and and it looks like pasta right you're like Oh, this is interesting. It's like some pasta, and then you stick your fork in it, and that's when you realize it ain't pasta It's like shaved beet or something and it's

32:30 They make it look like pasta and then they fill it up well there's because I did ask a lot of questions their standard or their secret sauce is Sunflower seed puree they make everything out of sunflower seed puree So instead of a pasta, you know a ravioli actually is what I asked for instead of a ravioli piece of pasta with filling of meat or mushrooms or whatever, it's this sunflower seed puree. Now, I will say that the taste of everything was outstanding. It's just the freakiness and the guy next to me thought he was getting like maybe a veggie burger or something. You know, there's no bread in the raw food world. Now again, it's like some concoction of mushrooms and

33:15 and stuff and it looks like a hamburger but you pick it up it falls apart. You know you try to eat it and you think you're sinking your teeth into something. It just isn't what you think it is. But John, I will have to say quite enjoyable, quite delicious. The organic wines were very nice. The price was an outrage. I think we spent $120 for one dinner with just the two of us. Well, we spend more than that. Yeah, but then we're drinking like, you know, $80 wine. No, no, this was very, very expensive, which I guess makes sense. But why would it make sense? All that's raw stuff that goes into this food is the stuff that ends up getting cooked. No, why it makes no, I disagree. Try and buy real raw, try and source

34:09 Really good food raw food try it and go ahead go to have you been to Whole Foods recently? Have you just purchased anything there? Can you see how expensive this shit is if we all go to Whole Foods Whole Foods is big organic as Michael Pollan would put it. Yeah, but what okay, so we haven't quite set up the infrastructure We haven't quite figured out where to go But if you want stuff that is non genetically modified if you want stuff that is actually healthy for you Then you're pretty much locked into that unless you you know, unless you're like, you know John and you know all the farmers and you visit the farms, which I don't have time for being a busy executive. It's expensive. It's expensive to get real whole food like the natural stuff. Which just gave me the idea for your next little tour that you're going to take in the next couple of weeks. Ah, what's that? Where are we going?

35:00 There's a farm up in the Fairfield Sassoon Valley area that is huge, by the way. You go in and you just pick whatever. They got tomatoes and beans and everything growing and you just go out in the field and grab buckets full of stuff and then you come in and they weigh it. You pay five bucks and you're out of there. I love it. Well, we're going up to Big Basin today or down or wherever it is. Yeah, if it's open I hope it's open. I looked at the website. It's open, but you can only smoke in your car. Oh, yeah, well, yeah I want to be smoking and when you go there, you'll see why It's a lot of trees. I just wanted to give you some some real news news You can use a fantastic article a all Shavit sent this to me who sometimes listens to the show and other times He's just running technology at me vo. This is from

CHAPTER 11 / 24 Discussion

YouTube Financial Losses, Google Revenue Projections

Google CEO Eric Schmidt claims YouTube will become profitable soon, despite estimates that the service loses half a billion dollars annually. Users currently upload 15 hours of video per minute, creating massive transcoding and storage costs. Speculation suggests YouTube may eventually implement a subscription fee to cover the immense bandwidth requirements of its global user base.

youtube· google· eric schmidt· bandwidth costs· video hosting

36:00 from all things D, I guess, from that group of guys. Google says YouTube can start making real money very soon. Really? I just cracked up when I saw the title. What's interesting about this is how much money they're losing. on YouTube. So I'll just give you some basic stats. Users are uploading 15 hours of video per minute to YouTube. 15 hours per minute. Think about the resources needed to transcode it, to store it, etc. The company, even though they didn't specifically mention the numbers in their quarterly conference call, and this by the way is a quote from Eric Schmidt saying, yay, we're going to make some real money real soon on that thing.

36:45 Estimates are they are losing half a billion dollars a year on the YouTube service. Half a billion. So I'd say make copies of the shit you upload to YouTube because it will go away. This cannot last forever. Well, they're going to have to do something. I think what they're going to have to do, and I believe this will happen, they're going to say, look... Listen. You're going to... Yeah, look. Let me be clear. You're gonna have to pay 10 bucks a month to use the service. Yeah, and then no one's gonna do it and then it's gonna start to... Well, the people who use the service for blogs, I'd pay the 10 bucks in a minute because I upload enough stuff that I like to put on the blog that the 10 buck fee for having somebody cover the bandwidth of a video is well worth it. Yes, true. But you could do it to Mevio completely for free.

CHAPTER 12 / 24 Discussion

Federal Prisons, Colorado White-Collar Criminal Hub

Bernie Madoff was denied his request to serve his sentence in a Colorado federal prison, a location popular with high-profile white-collar criminals like the Enron executives. Jeff Skilling and Andrew Fastow are currently serving time in Colorado facilities, which some theorists link to the relocation of CIA headquarters to the state. Madoff was instead sent to a facility in North Carolina.

bernie madoff· enron· colorado· federal bureau of prisons· jeff skilling

37:37 Yeah, I could. I've uploaded a bunch of stuff to MeVio too. Oh really? How nice of you. I'm just saying for most people. Well, I'm just saying the other thing you guys won't take, I think they're taking two gigabyte files, HD files now. No, we take that. We certainly do a gigabyte. I think so. Producer John Steck sent a great article in the Wall Street Journal which is about the top prisons in the United States. He's calling it the Enron prisons. Where do the good guys go when they go to prison? Where did all the Enron guys... Are you leaving, hon? No, no. Where'd they go? Well, of course... They're probably in one of these apartment buildings that you're living in. No, no, no, no, no, no. They go to Colorado. They're not going to Supermax, though. No. Hold on a second. Here's the... So there's this article

38:39 The Bureau of Prisons didn't grant Madoff his first choice and rebuffed a judge's recommendations. Why? And when you read through this article, so of course Madoff wanted to go to the Enron prison which is where all these guys went. It's all in Denver. Hey Bernie! But when you look in a little bit deeper Fastow and Skillings, now these are the Enron guys, both in their respective Colorado prisons. Where did Ken Lay die before moving to the Bush Ranch in Paraguay? In the Colorado prison. And where has the CI relocated their HQ? To Colorado. Dude, this is the new Gitmo Nation Central.

39:25 Oh yeah, well you always had this theory about Colorado which I'm not going to argue too much against because of those crazy artworks that are at that Denver airport which kind of indicate something weird is going on and people who kept telling us about the layers and the others apparently underground bunkers and all kinds of stuff around there which is makes sense. I mean why would they put that airport there anyway? Now the possibility of you know since I kind of subscribe to the notion that Lay was you know just He had no hope, really didn't have a heart attack and is in, you know, somewhere in South America or whatever. And if there may have actually a structure for this sort of thing in Colorado, that's why Madoff wanted to get there. And the judge saw through this and said, no, you're going down to North Carolina or wherever they sent him.

40:12 Yeah, they did send him to the Carolinas. So he's screwed. But he, well, because he probably didn't share. He didn't share the wealth. Adelphia Communications founder John Regas, his son Timothy. Both to Colorado I mean this is where all the big crooks go which is is kind of interesting that Madoff didn't get sent although his his lawyer tried to get him sent to Colorado, but it wasn't the movie it was the The Gotti story was that a TV movie was it a series remember about John Gotti?

40:52 No, no, it was probably a movie. Well, who knows? Shit man. No It was it was based on I can't remember now, but no it made good fellas. No good fellas That's what it was where they're all sitting in prison and then you know, they've got cigarettes. They've got all right Yeah, I mean that's what's happening. All right, they just sit there and just cool off a little while. They're all cooking They're making you know great dinners for each other and then they get out. Oh But you have to look, you really have to look, it's in the show notes of course at noagenda.mevo.com and noagenda.squarespace.com and you'll see how obvious it is where if you do share, unlike Bernie, if you do share then you get hooked up and you get sent to the right place. I'd say it's more than time now, John. Well, let's see, a couple things first. I want to get this one thing out of the way.

CHAPTER 13 / 24 Discussion

California Agriculture, Marijuana Revenue vs Traditional Crops

Marijuana is the highest-valued crop in California, estimated at $17 billion annually, which dwarfs traditional agricultural products like milk ($7.3 billion) and grapes ($3.1 billion). Proponents argue that legalizing and taxing the industry could generate $1.4 billion in state revenue. Beyond its use as a drug, the hemp plant is noted for its potential in fuel and industrial production.

california· agriculture· marijuana· hemp· tax revenue· wine industry

41:48 I want to just run some numbers by before we get this swine flu. Somebody came out and did an analysis of the billions of dollars that account, in other words, California is an agricultural state. And somebody broke down the production in California, what it's worth, what the crops are worth. Top of the list was milk and cream, 7.3 billion. and then dollars worth of milk and cream. We're a cheese producer. Grapes, which I would assume all the wine industry, $3.1 billion worth of grapes. That's number two on the list? So the number one is like seven? Milk and cream, milk and cream. And then the nursery, which is I guess people selling plants and stuff, is amazingly $3.1 billion. Lettuce in the state of California accounts for $2.2 billion.

42:43 and marijuana. What do you think marijuana comes in at? I'm gonna say about 1.5 to 2 billion. 17 billion. Holy shit! 17 billion dollars? That's more than the rest combined. It truly is the state of milk and honey. Oh my god. So the point is they think they can at least get 1.4 billion in taxes if the people would just let, you know, the reality of the situation. Oh my god. You know, it used to be 18 billion until I stopped smoking. And by the way, I'm not against it. I still think it's a wonder drug and I think that we or a wonder herb, let's put it that way. And we haven't figured out how many beautiful things we can do with it outside of hemp production, which would be you can run cars on hemp, you can make all kinds of things out of hemp. It's a magical, magical plant. I just wound up abusing it.

CHAPTER 14 / 24 Discussion

Swine Flu Vaccines, Adjuvants and Teenager Health Risks

The H1N1 swine flu vaccine rollout involves the heavy use of adjuvants, which act as "hamburger helper" to stretch the supply of the active virus. These additives force the immune system into overdrive, which may pose specific risks to teenagers whose bodies are already undergoing rapid changes. The U.S. government has recently purchased over a billion dollars worth of these vaccine boosters.

swine flu· h1n1· adjuvants· vaccine safety· immune system· teenagers

43:43 Alright, so let's get on with the discussion, which is... Well of course it's about swine flu and there's so many different stories going on right now. But I kind of latched onto in something John and I were working on actually at the office. We were working on the whole idea of the adjuvant, which was pointed out to us. Adjuvant is kind of the hamburger helper of vaccinations. Right. You can listen to last week's show for an explanation. By the way, my wife says to me, I thought you knew about these things. Is that the voice she has? I mean, that's really hot. Does she say, John, bang me really hard.

44:19 I mean, is that how she talks? I'm really getting turned on. I thought you knew about Edgy. I'm really excited. I can't wait to meet her now. I mean, that voice is just... I can only imagine the beautiful face that goes with the voice. No wonder she lives in a different state from you. So now of course John being a former chemist amongst as many other vocations really does understand adjuvants and let me just give a quick layman's explanation in case you didn't listen to 113. is the adjuvant is put into vaccines to actually help your immune system go into a kind of overdrive mode to combat whatever is in your system. So the basic principle is give someone the actual

45:11 Virus which is what a vaccine is it's a it's a version of the virus that's put into your body attenuated What it mean tone down? Yeah, it's just like a dead either dead right okay, but it but it is the actual structure of the virus and then you basically hype up your body and So that your body goes into overdrive, which is why a lot of people get fevers, etc., right after they get any kind of vaccination. And your body then is going into overdrive mode to create all the antibodies, etc., that's necessary to fight this off really quickly and then be immune, supposedly, to any future versions of the virus. That's why I think the hamburger helper... By the way, when I told Miki about the actual existence of hamburger helper, she almost shit herself. She felt so bad for poor people in America.

45:56 which is like baby, I grew up on Hamburger Helper. But now that we have all these different stories that there's not going to be enough vaccine for everybody but they're just going to fill up more of these vaccinations with these adjuvants, add to that that the United States just purchased last week or in the last week over a billion dollars of adjuvants And that the stories have been coming out very, very quickly saying, well, the people who will die first from swine flu or Mexican flu, should you live in Europe, will be teenagers. And of course, teenagers already are very active and their bodies are changing. And you throw in too much adjuvants in there and they can actually, their bodies can kill themselves. True or false, Mr. Dvorak? Dr. Dvorak? Well, here's what bothers me about the whole thing.

CHAPTER 15 / 24 Discussion

Novartis MF59 Adjuvant, FDA Approval and Liability Immunity

Pharmaceutical companies like Novartis are using experimental adjuvants such as MF59 in swine flu vaccines, despite a lack of long-term data on how they function. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius signed a decree granting vaccine makers total immunity from liability for injuries caused by these shots. Critics argue the pandemic is being used as a loophole to conduct mass human testing of unapproved vaccine additives.

novartis· mf59· fda· liability immunity· kathleen sebelius· experimental vaccines

46:48 When you start looking, I've read too much about adjuvants over the last week. And the thing that bothers me the most, because it keeps coming up right at the top, is the fact that they don't know how or why they work. And the other thing that keeps coming up to the top, you know there's all these different articles out there and I have a bunch of them here I'm going to talk about, is that really there hasn't been a new adjuvant added to the arsenal since 1930. What is a typical adjuvant, John? The adjuvant that's used is pretty much the same, alum, it's aluminum hydroxide. So aluminium.

47:29 aluminum hydroxide and that's been in use since around the turn of the centuries and they don't know why it works but they know that they can develop other ones and there's a whole bunch of experimental ones, a ton of them including the big whopper which is the one I'm going to talk about in a second from Novartis. Which is what the government bought from, they bought from Novartis AG. Yeah because Novartis makes a flu vaccine and they also make an adjuvant that is uh... experimental and i believe by the way the reason the two things that is how i had that happen that can for ten a confirm this theory which is i'd believe that they have called the swine flu vaccine experimental is because they're going to use a non approved adjuvant the one from novartis in in this mix and i'd like to point out that according to uh... a p

48:24 pharmaceutical companies have been granted immunity for anything for any liability and this was a document that Sibelius signed last month grants immunity to those making a swine flu vaccine under the provisions of a 2006 law for public health emergencies. In other words, the last time this whole swine flu came about in 1976, a lot of people died from, what's the name of the disease, John? Guillain-Barre. Guillain... is that how you pronounce it? Guillain-Barre. My wife gave me crap about that too. She said that we can't pronounce anything, we're idiots. But how did she say it? I can't remember. Guillain-Barre. Is that how she talks? I just want to make sure I got the voice down.

49:14 Now you're screwed for the next week thanks to you. I think you're not screwed is what we're talking about. So this Guillain-Barre, there were lots of lawsuits and of course the the makers of the vaccine had to shell out all this money so now they have been uh... indemnified from any lawsuits sure has experimental adjuvant kill people right in the edge of a we're looking for is ms fifty nine you can look it up yourself in ms fifty nine is a whack job of an adjuvant they think it's going to do great things and by the way when you start looking into adjuvant you'll find is a whole slew of these from these different pharma companies that they're experimenting with and the thing that they do is that they use in indian uh...

49:55 animal medications. In other words, when your dog gets a shot, it probably has an experimental adjuvant. that they're testing on these animals in real time because these things are out there and you keep reading about it, oh it's only used for animals, it's only used for animals. Why is it used for animals? Because they're trying to get clinical data so they can sell these because this could be worth a fortune because the idea is if you can find one where you can use one-tenth as much of the virus or the attenuated virus, you can really stretch, you know, it's stretching the budget, you know, this is the hamburger helper theory. and so anyway so they've got this mf-59 which you know they're gonna use and that's why this is called experimental the flu the vaccine itself is not experiment I just make in the same away but when you start doing weird stuff like this yeah now it's quote-unquote experimental and then they have to give them the light you know they have to be indemnify them and they do that too and so God knows what's gonna happen this is basically says here's the way I'm seeing it these pharma companies have seen that the FDA is holding Pat

50:58 We're not going to approve anything that's an adjuvant because you don't even know how these things work. And so they said, since 1930. So they say, okay, let's do it this way. We'll make it, call it experimental. That way we can use anything we want because it's experimental. And essentially use the entire world's public to do a blind test on various adjuvants. There may be more than one or two different ones used in different areas. the aluminum, normal aluminum hydroxide in California for example and then they may use the MF stuff from Novartis, MF 59 in Nevada. And so then they see how many people drop dead. And oops, well maybe that wasn't a good idea. Who knows? I mean as far as I can tell this is a giant way to bypass to do an

CHAPTER 16 / 24 Discussion

WHO Swine Flu Tracking, Social Engineering and Hype

The World Health Organization (WHO) has ceased tracking individual swine flu cases and deaths, leading to accusations that they are hiding the low mortality rate of the virus. This lack of data, combined with media hype about vaccine shortages, is characterized as a social engineering project designed to create public demand for the shots. Meanwhile, reports of Tamiflu-resistant strains are surfacing in Asia.

world health organization· swine flu· data tracking· tamiflu· social engineering

51:46 and run on the FDA's kind of stubbornness about using these experimental adjuvants. If you want some real news reporting on this, there will be some links in the show notes. Here's one from the Wall Street Journal titled, Swine Flu Vaccination Production Hits a Snag. And it says right here, swine flu vaccine is proving difficult to manufacture because the virus is used to make the shots aren't yielding a large amount of active ingredient. That's according to the two large vaccine makers. Their comments echoed similar statements from the World Health Organization earlier this week, means that millions of vaccine doses ordered by many governments could arrive later than expected, but they're going to be adding adjuvants to beef them up. That's the hamburger helper theory.

52:33 In addition to that, let me see. Oh, this was kind of interesting CNN reports that Franklin Delano Roosevelt might not have died from polio related diseases, but from Gillian Barr syndrome Not Gillian. It is Killian. We aim Guillain a Gilligan's Island Barr syndrome What's better Gillian Barr? Yeah, we aim and So there is some real reporting going on about this, but it's being completely snowed under and here's how it's working. So if I can just step back for a second. First of all, I believe most people who are part of this evil, evil, evil plan are in it for the money. So I don't think everyone's out to kill us.

53:22 But obviously the pharma companies are like, you know, all of their drugs are running out of patent. They've got to come up with something. These are multi-billion dollar contracts. A lot of it was pre-sold. I've looked at all of the big pharma reports, their annual reports. In the 2008 report, they're all saying, hey, we've got, you know, our pipeline is filled up with billions of dollars in revenue for, they literally say swine flu vaccine like they knew it in 2008. You know, this is a big, big, big, big money maker. And of course, you know, the FDA and everyone's all in each other's pockets. So there's money flowing everywhere. The World Health Organization is what really scares me, though. They came out with... Actually, they only did it on their website. They didn't even send out a press release. They quietly announced on Thursday that it would stop tracking swine flu cases and deaths around the world.

54:18 which has perplexed the experts. But of course the reason they have to do this is because no one's actually dying. There's not a high enough number of people dying from swine flu. So, you know, clearly they don't want that information, you know, for someone like actually count the numbers. Someone who might work at, for instance, oh, say, the New York fucking Times, who would actually write something that says this is bullshit, you're being hoodwinked. So that's, you know, so they're taking away all the data so that we can't actually track it. and now they're creating this hype and we see this happen in every single country around Gitmo Nation and I've seen it happen in Germany, seen it happen in Austria, seen it happen in the Netherlands, Belgium interestingly enough not but of course that's where the European Parliament sits so they're like we ain't taking no shots

55:07 They're creating a hype saying who should go first and this is the discussion now which group is most at risk, who should get their shot first. So now people are like, oh I want to be in the first batch and now there's not enough and we're going to die if we don't get the shot. So it's a complete social engineering project which is working really, really well. Yeah, have your doctor people out there if you don't want to get these shots. You have them give you a prescription for Relenza and just have it around the house. Have one for everybody in the family and then if somebody gets the flu, you use the Relenza and that's the end of it. By the way, the Tamiflu resistant strain supposedly that came and went, I believe, because it was in China, there happens to be now a lot of counterfeit Tamiflu.

CHAPTER 17 / 24 Discussion

Forced Vaccinations, WHO Constitution and School Requirements

Under the World Health Organization constitution, member nations may be required to implement forced vaccinations during a declared pandemic. It is predicted that U.S. states like California and New Jersey will mandate swine flu shots for children returning to school in September. For those concerned about vaccine additives, chelating agents are suggested as a possible way to remove aluminum hydroxide from the body.

forced vaccination· world health organization· homeschooling· aluminum hydroxide· chelating agents

56:00 Yeah, there is a lot of it. And I believe it was a counterfeit batch. Well, so but here's the problem, John, is the issue of forced vaccinations. And it turns out that any member of the World Health Organization has to adhere to their Constitution I think they even call it and of course the United States is a member of the World Health Organization and the WHO is allowed to make a call for forced vaccinations and all these countries irrespective of their individual constitutional rights are supposed to adhere to this so If they do say, hey, forced vaccinations, you've got to have it, I believe the first thing they're going to do is they're going to not allow your kid to go back to school in September. They're going to say, if your kid hasn't had a swine flu shot, no school for you! So that, of course, is where they start.

56:50 Then they're setting up in multiple countries, they're setting up vaccination centers which will obfuscate the whole idea of getting a note from your doctor, from a friendly doctor obviously. You know, I can draw this so much further all the way right into what we talked about at the beginning of the show. Hey, you don't take your shot, boom, we just turn off your phone. You don't take your shot, boom, we just turn off your credit card. They're going to force you to do it. So what I'd rather focus on, and I made a call out on Twitter on Friday, Is there anything, and of course I kind of know the answer since we don't even know what the frick these adjuvants are or how they work, but is there anything we can take to render the effects of the adjuvant? Because the flu itself, I've had it. I had swine flu. If I had called my doctor and had it diagnosed over the phone, he would have said, yep, you got swine flu. I was in California during the big scare.

57:42 I was deathly ill, I wasn't throwing up or anything but I had a bit of an upset stomach, I had huge coughing, sneezing, wheezing, the whole nine yards and I lived. I lived, okay? No big deal. But the adjuvant is what's going to kill you. So is there any compound? Is there anything we can take that will counteract the adjuvant process? You're still there? Dr. Dvorak? of autism in the United States as opposed to mercury. Hold on, hold on. John, back up a second. I miss what you just said. Back up one minute. Hello? Yeah. Okay, start again. My question was, is there anything we can... Yeah, aluminum hydroxide is the adjuvant that's being used currently and you could take chelating agents to get the aluminum out of your system if that has anything. It's going to mean anything. It's not.

58:45 But it's these MF59 and these other experimental adjuvants, and there's a crap load of them. You start looking it up, it's almost like the big thing to be investing intellectual time in. I mean, there's a whole, I've got a list of them here actually, all these experimental ones. Hemispherics. I mean, you don't, for one thing, you'll never know which one it is. Is it going to be hemispherics? Ampligen, which is another one? QS21, the stimulant adjuvant? QS21, I've heard about them using that. They're not going to use QS21. They're going to use... Novartis is going to be the Novartis product, the MF59. It's a witch's brew. You have all kinds of weird stuff. There's no way you could take something that's going to counteract it. Do you think it's possible maybe that marijuana would be something that would counteract that? Seriously, think about that for a second. Oh, it can't hurt. At least you'll die happy. Oh no.

CHAPTER 18 / 24 Discussion

Lab-Created Virus Theories, University of Wisconsin Research

Investigative reports suggest the H1N1 virus may have been engineered in a laboratory, potentially using genetic material from the 1918 Spanish Flu. Research at the University of Wisconsin-Madison involved reconstructing historical flu strains, and companies associated with this research, such as FluGen, are now involved in vaccine development. This creates a perceived conflict of interest regarding profit motives in pandemic response.

matthew russell· wayne madsen· university of wisconsin· spanish flu· flugen· h1n1

59:48 A great YouTube video that I'll put in the show notes. You've got to listen to this. This is pretty cool. This is from... The number of confirmed cases of swine flu has topped over 100,000 now with the World Health Organization calling the pandemic unstoppable and suggesting mass vaccination. Are we actually fighting a man-made tragedy, some are asking. Investigator journalist Matthew contributed to Wayne Madsen's in Washington to tell us more about claims that the virus began life in a... So this is about how it was actually created in the lab. It's worth listening to for a minute. ...lab. Mr. Madsen, afternoon tune out of the World Health Organization where he is looking into claims that this virus could have been created in a lab, possibly in some sort of vaccine development that may have gone out, may have gone wrong. What else do we know?

1:00:33 What we know of course is that there have been laboratories, especially at the University of Wisconsin at Madison, that were involved in this, what I call the Jurassic Park development of this particular flu. The 1918 flu, called the Spanish flu, was extracted from the corpse of a dead Inuit woman who died of the disease in Brevig Mission, Alaska, a small Inuit village. and it was recombined with other forms of flu to create this particular AH1N1 that's been declared a pandemic by the World Health Organization. Now it's interesting to note that a company called FluGen, which is associated with this research at the University of Wisconsin at Madison, is now developing a vaccine. I think what we see with Baxter International, FluGen and other companies developing a vaccine when some of these companies were involved in

1:01:35 In the research on this particular form of flu, people are a little bit skeptical about the profit motivation here. So, and I will point out that we actually discussed that story about a year ago about them digging up the Inuit body that had the 1918 Spanish flu. We talked about that specifically and we said that's not a good idea. And now of course, now you can connect all the dots. You've got the research at Madison, Wisconsin funded by Big Pharma, FluGen. I understand that we're so hypnotized these days by television and mainstream media that we are immune to logic and reason.

CHAPTER 19 / 24 Discussion

Squalene Adjuvants, Military Testing and Fort Detrick

The use of squalene in vaccine adjuvants has a controversial history linked to military testing and Gulf War Syndrome. Research into these emulsion vehicles began at Fort Detrick in 1987, and the military has a history of administering experimental shots to service members without detailed record-keeping. These same compounds are now being integrated into public swine flu vaccines under various commercial names.

squalene· mf59· fort detrick· anthrax vaccine· gulf war syndrome· military medicine

1:02:17 I just want to point it out. You have to ask yourself, every flu that comes about comes out of Asia because of the nature of their agricultural system where they mix the cows and the pigs and the ducks and the chickens. And so these things kind of mutate amongst those animals. How did this one come out of Mexico? I mean, where does this, how does this thing somehow evolve out of Mexico in the middle of the summer? In a hot area like Mexico? I mean, the whole thing is a little fishy. At the very time the president was in Mexico, I might point out. Here's what bothers me, is they say that they're trying to make enough of the attenuated

1:03:04 virus so they can make these vaccines with or without the fancy adjectives, adjuvants, adjectives. Anyway, so the World Health Organization puts out this, they say, we're not making enough, we can't get enough yield, you know, there's a yield problem, sounds like the semiconductor industry. We have a yield problem, so we're going to tweak the virus. Did you read this? What do you mean you're gonna tweak the virus? You're gonna make it better? What does that mean? You tell me. What, do you have a link for that? Do you have a source? I had it. That's what, that's the, I realized that's the missing link that I sent you that you didn't get. No, you sent me something very different.

1:03:44 What later I did but I didn't the one that I meant to send you was this thing where they're gonna tweak the virus? They're gonna tweak the virus. What do you mean? You're gonna tweak the muscle which so that way well, maybe we're not getting enough death here We're not get the kill rates too low Let's tweak it and send it back out there and maybe we can get some more, you know I don't know. This whole thing is fit is a completely fishy It's fishy. It's fishy. Well, if you believe in the whole Bilderberg group and the idea that there are eugenicists at work here, who by the way have a pretty decent idea, I hate to say it, but look, listen, let me be clear. The number one problem on earth is people. We've got six and a half billion people. It's too many people. There's too many of us fuckers out there. So you have to get rid of them. War doesn't go fast enough.

1:04:28 nuclear war is too dangerous because you'll kill people you don't intend to kill so why not just kill the idiots who are going to stand in line and take a damn flu shot? I mean it does make a lot of sense, it really does. So I got this one report that indicates some guy who's a woman actually goes on and on about the MF59 and they mentioned that the military, they think there may be some connection to the anthrax vaccines. uh... and uh... gold syndrome and some of these adjuncts because that the military can they can give the military people any experimental drug they want to get by the law of the by the use them as a test testing ground constantly right now i was there are thousands and thousands of stories of uh...

1:05:17 military men and women being given experimental shots and dying and there's no record of the shot they were given, there's no information, just your son, your daughter is dead, sorry, got something bad, died in the military hospital. Thousands of examples of this. Yeah. So the, anyway, so this guy goes on and on about, How this worry about the triple mix which is an army designation in the late 1980s for squalene which is part of MF59, emulsion adjuvant now sold by Corix under the commercial name Rebate Adjuvant System or RAS, scientists at Fort Detrick which is always a bad thing to hear.

1:06:00 began working with this emulsion vehicle in 1987, and it goes on and on. I will get a show, I'll send a show note. This is one of these kind of loaded with information, paranoid freak kind of a memo that is always kind of interesting. Fort Detrick, Fort Detrick, Fort Detrick. By the way, while I was digging this stuff up, looking for some connection to the anthrax vaccine. Before you go there, John? Because that will take us a little bit off track. I just want to read a quick article from the Wall Street Journal owned by hair Rupert Murdoch I might add what a Murdoch turn on us Written by Betsy McKay Wall Street Journal US health officials are preparing intensely intensively to combat an anticipated wave of outbreaks of the new h1n1 flu when children return to school and the pace of cases picks up

CHAPTER 20 / 24 Discussion

Mandatory School Immunization, Chemtrails and Servitude

The CDC is coordinating with state authorities to prepare for a massive immunization campaign targeting school children in mid-autumn. Beyond vaccines, aluminum is noted as a common ingredient in deodorants and cookware, and is allegedly present in "chemtrails" sprayed by aircraft. These environmental and medical exposures are theorized to be part of a broader effort to maintain public servitude.

immunization· wall street journal· chemtrails· aluminum· deodorant· public health

1:05:17 military men and women being given experimental shots and dying and there's no record of the shot they were given, there's no information, just your son, your daughter is dead, sorry, got something bad, died in the military hospital. Thousands of examples of this. Yeah. So the, anyway, so this guy goes on and on about, How this worry about the triple mix which is an army designation in the late 1980s for squalene which is part of MF59, emulsion adjuvant now sold by Corix under the commercial name Rebate Adjuvant System or RAS, scientists at Fort Detrick which is always a bad thing to hear.

1:06:00 began working with this emulsion vehicle in 1987, and it goes on and on. I will get a show, I'll send a show note. This is one of these kind of loaded with information, paranoid freak kind of a memo that is always kind of interesting. Fort Detrick, Fort Detrick, Fort Detrick. By the way, while I was digging this stuff up, looking for some connection to the anthrax vaccine. Before you go there, John? Because that will take us a little bit off track. I just want to read a quick article from the Wall Street Journal owned by hair Rupert Murdoch I might add what a Murdoch turn on us Written by Betsy McKay Wall Street Journal US health officials are preparing intensely intensively to combat an anticipated wave of outbreaks of the new h1n1 flu when children return to school and the pace of cases picks up

1:06:56 identified by scientists just three months ago the new swine flu virus according to the World Health Organization has reached unprecedented speed rather than die down in the summer as some experts initially expected is continuing blah blah blah so this article basically says that they were here it is and shoe chat and shoot chat we should google her chief of immunization and respiratory diseases at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Friday the agency expects an increase in cases before the normal start of flu season mid-autumn because children are likely to spread it to one another once they go back to school this is a setup to have your kids immunized

1:07:41 They even want to return to school and I guarantee you this is this is going to we are we've been Consistently ahead of the news on this program. We have a whole month now all this crap that we're talking about happened in three short months Okay, so we have a whole month left actually a month and a half before your kids have to go back to school and I guarantee you that there will be states probably California, New Jersey and those I know for sure, who will force your children to have an anti or a swine flu vaccination for them to be allowed to return to school. And I say homeschooling is the best.

1:08:21 And homeschooling, which is almost illegal in California, is very difficult to do here. They don't want kids in California being homeschooled, period. Clinical trials are expected to begin later this month to test whether a vaccine developed to combat the virus is safe and effective. And the CDC is working with state and local public health authorities to figure out how to get as many as 600 million doses or two for every U.S. resident into people's arms. I love the way the Wall Street Journal writes. Results of the trials aren't expected until early October, which means we have to have a whole bunch of people dead before it's proved to be effective. I guarantee you this is what's happening. So if we can find out any... By the way, aluminum or aluminium is in all kinds of shit that enters your body. Do you know that that is the main active ingredient in deodorant? Which of course you spray on your underarm, which is a very sensitive area of your body. It's also in Rolaids.

1:09:16 Rolaids? Yeah. And it's also people who cook on aluminum cookware get a lot of aluminum in their system when they acidify anything in the pot. And it's in chemtrails. I just have to make sure we throw in some wacky drunk. So when you see what you think are vapor trails by airplanes up in the sky, they're actually not 40,000 feet up where these vapor trails do occur, but they're more like a couple thousand feet up, sometimes even lower, and they're in crisscross formation, and these are being sprayed by aircraft. They contain all kinds of crap, mainly aluminum, as you say in Gitmo Nation West.

1:09:54 and it's intended to dumb you down, to make you ill, and effectively to keep you in servitude of Big Brother. Service.org or .gov? Serve.gov. So let's go. What I want to mention here is not that. But the fact is, I don't think that anyone listening to this show really kind of appreciates the fact that nobody in the mainstream media is talking about adjuvants and some of the controversy over them or all the different ones and how they're, you know, what might be going on in the background, which I believe is still a massive, just a public test to try to get something approved by the FDA. I don't think it's any more sinister than that, to be honest about it.

1:10:35 it. But the fact of the matter is nobody's discussing any of this stuff that we discuss on this show. And I want to I would like to tell people that we really appreciate their support. And I want to mention the people from last the last week who gave us their support in form of 50 100 or I might want to mention I wish a little horn blast we have a yet another night. Ah, lovely. Well, I can do an alert thing. That'll help. Our new knight is Kent Zeisser from Clovis, New Mexico. and he gave us a thousand dollars. Thank you very much, Kent. That's highly appreciated. Kent, you rock. But let's look at some of the other people that came in this week, which Joseph Fry, by the way most of the people from out of the country, which I find interesting, Joseph Fry out of Montreal, $54.46. Unfortunately he sent us an email because that's an odd number that must mean something, but he gave it away in an email, so what's the point of guessing? 5446? What is it?

CHAPTER 21 / 24 Discussion

No Agenda Donations, International Supporters and New Knight

The No Agenda show recognizes Kent Zeisser of Clovis, New Mexico, as a new knight following a $1,000 donation. Financial support for the program is currently dominated by listeners in Canada, the Nordic countries, and the Southern United States, with a notable lack of contributions from New York. Specific donors from Montreal, Australia, and the Netherlands were thanked for their contributions.

donations· kent zeisser· montreal· saskatoon· south carolina· no agenda

1:09:54 and it's intended to dumb you down, to make you ill, and effectively to keep you in servitude of Big Brother. Service.org or .gov? Serve.gov. So let's go. What I want to mention here is not that. But the fact is, I don't think that anyone listening to this show really kind of appreciates the fact that nobody in the mainstream media is talking about adjuvants and some of the controversy over them or all the different ones and how they're, you know, what might be going on in the background, which I believe is still a massive, just a public test to try to get something approved by the FDA. I don't think it's any more sinister than that, to be honest about it.

1:10:35 it. But the fact of the matter is nobody's discussing any of this stuff that we discuss on this show. And I want to I would like to tell people that we really appreciate their support. And I want to mention the people from last the last week who gave us their support in form of 50 100 or I might want to mention I wish a little horn blast we have a yet another night. Ah, lovely. Well, I can do an alert thing. That'll help. Our new knight is Kent Zeisser from Clovis, New Mexico. and he gave us a thousand dollars. Thank you very much, Kent. That's highly appreciated. Kent, you rock. But let's look at some of the other people that came in this week, which Joseph Fry, by the way most of the people from out of the country, which I find interesting, Joseph Fry out of Montreal, $54.46. Unfortunately he sent us an email because that's an odd number that must mean something, but he gave it away in an email, so what's the point of guessing? 5446? What is it?

1:11:38 It has to do with the amount of time Toots Maytal, the reggae singer, spent in jail. I'm glad he sent the email. And 54-46 apparently is used a lot in reggae music as a reference. Really? Yeah. I didn't know that. Who knew? And he's in Montreal. I mean, jeez, I don't know. a chase in uh... road deal ski in saskatoon by the way he was uh... a hundred and thank you it's c h a s e n e g c m email saying this but it's pronounced like jason so it's chasen not a chasen and he's in saskatoon which i understand is the paris of of canada

1:12:20 What does that mean? I don't know. Lots of people. Oh, you gotta go to Saskatoon. It's the Paris of Canada. They have lots of transsexual hookers. Is that what it is? Maybe that's it. Chris Mackle hat in Australia, $50. Marcel Heijems is H-E-I-J-A-M-S from Loenen, Netherlands. Is that how I pronounce it? H-E-I-J-A-M-S? Loenen. Wait, spell it again? His name is H-E-I-J-A-M-S. H-E-I-J... Spell it slower. H-E-I-J-A-M-S. Hey, moms. Okay, well that's him. And he's in...

1:13:00 Netherlands. Chris Backelhatten, by the way, is in Australia. Liam Hemings is in Buckinghamshire in the UK. He's $50. Brian Curry, no relation I don't think. Not that we know of. $50 from British Columbia. Wow, it's a lot from Canada. Our Canadian brethren are really helping us out. Yeah, they are actually. We get a lot of Canadian help. uh... and ur all my from grav denmark fifty fifty fifty dollars and fifty cents and then we finally got some americans frank davison florence south carolina and johnny green gave us another fifty dollars and he's in greenwood south carolina so for the south carolina and this is a johnny green the guy who wants to do the t-shirts that we can get a job in the senate he's approved these t-shirts and just get him out there do it this week

1:13:50 and justin fiori in atlanta uh... fifty so we have so the only people giving us any substantial money that is a lot of subscribers from everywhere but are people from canada the Scandinavian Nordic countries and the deep south of the USA. We don't get anything from New York. No, it's obvious John because those people are already completely assimilated, they're completely on board with the program, they're already standing in line outside the vaccination center ready to take their two shots to the arm. They're so ready for it. So go to devorek.org slash NA or noagenda.squarespace.com and help us out with this. And we do want to thank our web developer for the Squarespace site.

CHAPTER 22 / 24 Discussion

International Swine Flu Conference, Washington D.C. Agenda

An International Swine Flu Conference scheduled for August in Washington, D.C., features an agenda focused on mass fatality management and continuity of government. The event is sponsored by various pharmaceutical and technology companies, rather than independent epidemiological organizations. Sessions include discussions on the psychological issues of a pandemic and "scientific advances" in the H1N1 virus.

swine flu conference· washington d.c.· mass fatality planning· continuity of government· pharma sponsorship

1:14:35 who I wrote his name down. Oh God, don't tell me you forgot already. Well, you're looking for that. If you think we're crazy and you'd like to learn more about the swine flu, there will be an international swine flu conference being held August 19th and 20th with a workshop on the 21st. And I'd just like to read for you a little bit of the agenda. They have breakout sessions between 3 and 5. Breakout session number 1 is Mass Fatality Management Planning. This is rich. You have a link to this, I hope. Oh yeah. Here, I'm going to send it to you right now because you'll want to read this with me. Hold on. This is beautiful.

1:15:16 There you go. Breakout session number two, psychological issues. Breakout four, continuity of operations. That's COOP, that is continuity of government planning. Breakout five, emergency management services, law enforcement agencies, first responders. I mean, they're setting this up like we are all going to die. And from 10 to 10.30 is a coffee break. Where's the epidemiology on this? Where are the people dropping like flies? This is bull. Let me just see where this thing... Of course, they're tweaking the virus so that could change things. Where's this thing being held? Hold on a second. Anyway, I want to thank Barry Nieskens... Sorry about that. Sorry. Sorry. It's Barry B-E-R-R-Y-N-I-E-S-K-E-N-S, who's our web guy. I'm sorry, Barry, we haven't been plugging you. There you go. And I want to also, by the way, not to stop begging for money for one more minute.

1:16:12 I want to mention that I would like to find someone out there who likes to do charts. I need somebody because I want to do some custom charts that push one axis about the number of people dying. Shit, this website keeps popping up a video. I'm sorry. Hey, there are speaking opportunities at this conference, John. Should we sign up? Yeah, let's see if we can get in. This is all bullshit. They've got a brochure. Let's see, contact us. What can we find under contact us? Oh, it's in Washington, D.C., of course. And it's sponsored by HealthView, Luminex, Prefens Botanicals, Paul Boyer Technologies. It's pharma.

1:16:56 So how about... What is this, the session at 945 says current scientific advances of H1N1 virus. What does that mean? We've tweaked it to make it even better! So anyway, homework, homework, homework, homework. What can we do? Did I mention I need a chart guy, a guy who likes to do charts? Yes, a chart guy. Thank you very much to people like Fabrice who have been working on the RFID frequencies. We'll probably get to that in a later show. I'm trying to figure out if indeed

CHAPTER 23 / 24 Discussion

Monsanto Genetically Modified Wheat, Food Inc Documentary

Monsanto has received approval to develop genetically modified wheat for the United States market, coinciding with a rise in wheat and soybean futures. The documentary "The World According to Monsanto" and the theatrical release "Food Inc." are recommended for those seeking to understand the impact of corporate control over the global food supply.

monsanto· gm wheat· wheat futures· food inc· michael pollan· agriculture

1:17:35 And this is happening worldwide, by the way, not just in Gitmo Nation West, where analog television signals are being turned off. The thinking is that it's freeing up spectrum for RFID so that you can be tracked. Thanks to Ben, whose last name I should not mention, who works for GE in their nuclear division, gave us a whole bunch of internal links and information. We'll get back to that in a later show as well, I'm sure. You guys are really doing a great job at sending us good good information and of course the Monsanto stuff does not stop We have our I think it's our Russian friend Alex who sends us the inside dirt on the exchanges of commodities and July wheat I might add

1:18:24 A member of Monsanto has now been given the go-ahead to create genetically modified wheat for the United States. The July wheat futures up $6. Soybeans up $10. That's a lot for a futures contract. I posted on the blog, Dvorak.org slash blog, the world according to Monsanto, a clip. I finally found one copy of it online that you can watch if you want to watch it on the blog or if you read through the comments somebody has a link to an HD version of it which is somebody I guess put up somewhere. You just might want to, not that it's, you should buy it if you can find it.

1:19:11 But it's a great documentary. And I still want to go see it, but Food Inc., I'm hearing rave reviews about it. That's in selected theaters, I believe, now. Yeah, very few selected theaters. And becoming fewer every day. So again, homework, let's work on adjuvants. I know we have a lot of really smart people out there who can help us. Is there something natural or synthetic that we can take to combat the activity of adjuvants which will start killing our teenagers first? John and I both have one, we kind of love them, so we want to hold on to them. Maybe you have some kids you love. That would be the number one piece of homework, I would say.

CHAPTER 24 / 24 Discussion

Mass Evacuation Bus, Show Outro and Sign-off

A specialized "Mass Evacuation Bus" operated by Emergency Medical Services was spotted on a highway, featuring blacked-out windows and a prisoner-transport design. The show concludes with a promise of a future restaurant review and a call for continued listener donations. Hosts Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak sign off from San Francisco and Silicon Valley.

mass evacuation bus· ems· san francisco· silicon valley· no agenda· restaurant review

1:19:54 And have you seen this video floating around as well about this bus that some guy shot driving on the highway? It was the... oh shit, now I forget what the actual... it was like the... It didn't actually say swine flu bus. Swine flu bus. Let me see if I can find it. I should also plug the blog one more time because I have a picture somebody took in Italy of a swine flu ambulance. Somebody had painted an ambulance that looks like a giant pig. No, this is the mass evacuation bus. That's what it was John have you seen this one? No, I haven't. Oh my god. Yeah, hold on. It'll be in the... it was put up a couple days ago. It was... I'll put that in the...

1:20:44 Here it comes in the show notes. Yeah, it's this bus here I'm driving right now. I'm just gonna wait for the video to get a little closer. So the guy's driving on the highway. He sees this huge beautiful bus with no windows except for the emergency exit at the back. It's a huge white bus. It's from the EMS, Emergency Medical Services. and he's cruising by it and it says on the side I can see it right now mass evacuation bus hold on you've got to take a look at this man send me the link I don't have it there it is you've got the link now mass evacuation bus take a look at this right now

1:21:25 Wow, it looks official. Yeah, it's not a cheap piece of gear I'm looking at. That's like a million dollar bus. Yeah, look at that thing. Oh, that's got about I'll put it on the blog mass evacuation bus and Barry. I'll put it on the no agenda. That's where space.com site. Mass evacuation it looks like a pretty you know what it is is it's actually a prisoner's bus and all the windows are blacked out and it's But it's this is this is a nasty looking bus my lighters empty finally So we're trying to get you a silent lighter, but nobody seems to be coming up with one shit. It's busted. Oh

1:22:13 Good. Alright. Should we go out to dinner this week, John, so we can have a proper restaurant review? Or do we just do more... Yeah, we can give it a shot. We'll just do more swine flu on Thursday. Well, I don't want to keep harping on this. I think we've made our point. I'm sure something crappy will... Yeah, well, probably. Something crappy will crop up that we'll have to talk about. I just want to remind everybody to go to Dvorak.org and help us out. We need to keep these donations coming. And we're... It's, you know, still a little below what we'd like. For me? Although I want to definitely thank our knights. Yes. Coming to you from the minimum security prison in an undisclosed loft location in the crackpot command center Gitmo Nation West San Francisco, California. I'm Adam Curry. And from Silicon Valley North, the warmest part of the Bay Area currently, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk again on Thursday right here on No Agenda.