Episode 1128 · Sunday, 14 April 2019

Tactile Nukes

The arrest of Julian Assange and Bill Barr’s spying testimony collide with Kirsten Gillibrand’s nuclear gaffe and a New York City measles emergency.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 1128

About this episode

British police forcibly removed WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange from the Ecuadorian embassy in London, ending a seven-year standoff and triggering a U.S. extradition request for alleged hacking. Attorney General Bill Barr simultaneously ignited a media firestorm by testifying that spying occurred against the Trump campaign in 2016. These events converge as newly surfaced internal messages from Platte River Networks reference a Hillary Clinton email cover-up operation, challenging the established narrative of the Russia investigation.

Secondary developments include the UK government's Online Harms white paper, which proposes a legal duty of care for social media executives like Mark Zuckerberg. In the U.S., Senator Kirsten Gillibrand faced mockery for repeatedly referencing tactile nuclear weapons instead of tactical armaments during a defense policy debate. Meanwhile, Mayor Bill de Blasio declared a public health emergency in New York City, mandating measles vaccinations for Orthodox Jewish communities in Brooklyn under threat of thousand-dollar fines. Representative Candace Owens also clashed with Representative Ted Lieu over an out-of-context clip involving Adolf Hitler, while Harvard researchers proposed solar geoengineering by spraying sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere to combat climate change.

Distinctive moments include a listener observation regarding Barack Obama appearing without his wedding ring during a meeting with Angela Merkel in Berlin. John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry also address the celebrity status of a squeaky studio chair and the unusual behavior of the jet stream during an April blizzard. Young Felix Wilson concludes the program with a reading titled We're All Gonna Die, deconstructing modern media fear-mongering.


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CHAPTER 01 / 41 Discussion

Studio Move, John C. Dvorak Squeaky Chair Celebrity

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the show from Austin, Texas, discussing the upcoming relocation of their studio. They joke about Dvorak's squeaky chair becoming a celebrity and the potential for it to hold its own meetups.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· austin· studio move· squeaky chair· podcasting

00:00 Julianne called Julianne Adam Curry John C Devorah This is your award-winning get my nation media assassination episode 1128 this is no agenda Predicting news before it happens and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in downtown Austin Tejas in the Cluedio in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry Silicon Valley I'm John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! Oh man, you could have dropped a little squeak in there or something. The squeak is, you know, I gotta figure out exactly where the... There you go. Where the sweet spot is. Where the perfect spot is for squeaking. This thing has a mind and a life of its own. Yeah, the chair's become a celebrity.

00:52 It has. Yeah, we were talking just before the show that it can do meetups. It can go on its own tour. Yeah, it's gonna start doing meetups. And now featuring John C. Dvorak, Squeaky Chair! So we're in the middle of, you know, the move is underway. Next week, Friday, we move. So Sunday's show in a week will be from the new studio. So you are you but you're in the process of moving now to a little bit at a time Yeah, so we're we're moving because we don't have that much stuff anymore. You'll recall the purge from the previous move So yeah, so that I just been moving stuff over every single day and then Friday the movers come But here's the benefit of moving you find stuff that was lost Yeah It's back. Oh you what my whistle? Oh

CHAPTER 02 / 41 Discussion

Julian Assange Arrested, Ecuador Embassy Standoff Ends

British police removed WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange from the Ecuadorian embassy in London following a seven-year standoff. Assange, who appeared heavily bearded and was physically dragged from the building, faces a U.S. extradition request related to espionage and hacking charges.

julian assange· wikileaks· ecuador embassy· london· british police· extradition

01:47 That little plastic whistle yeah, yeah this I was gonna send you one because right because I got the replacement which was This one finally that's what you're looking for you were gonna send me one uh-huh pro tip after Sunday show you and I were talking about the the news cycle how it was very odd and And it's like, well, we're stuck. It's, you know, there's nothing happened. It's like, and you, I think you said the decks are cleared. Something's going to take place. Yeah. I still, I believe that's still the case. Well, I think it happened this morning. What happened? We've got breaking news for you. And I have to tell you, the pictures are shocking from London today where Julian Assange's long standoff with international authorities. Julian Assange, just so you know. Is finally. Julian, Julian.

02:40 And by the way, I should say this, but one of our producers on Twitter predicted this. Oh, really? Predicted this exact... Yeah, because I put it on Twitter that I think something big is going to happen this week, probably before the show but maybe not. And then he says Assange and Ecuador. And I said, ah, that sounds right. Fabulous. Well, let's listen to this early morning report. Gayle King and she talks about Julian Assange. We've got breaking news for you. I have to tell you the pictures are shocking from London today. Julian Assange's long standoff with international authorities. is finally over. This is Julian Assange. He is still in the summer. Has she never heard of this guy? She says it twice? I think a third time even. British police removed the WikiLeaks founder from Ecuador's embassy this morning. Clearly he did not want to go. He has been inside since August 2012.

03:32 hiding from a UK arrest warrant. Assange's lawyer says the arrest follows a US extradition request. WikiLeaks says Ecuador's decision to allow police to arrest Assange violated international laws. Heavily bearded and handcuffs. The WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange was dragged out of the Ecuadorian embassy by British police. Did you see that short clip of him being dragged out? No, I don't know anything about this. I get up just before the show so I miss out on the morning news. Oh, so they dragged him out literally hand and feet because he wasn't walking and he looks like shit. He's got... You know, he's been in solitary confinement. Well, sure, but he's got a huge white beard.

04:16 He looks a little bit like what's Quaid's brother the crazy Quaid? Randy looks a little bit like Randy Quaid with a white white beard and they dragged him out man They dragged holding his arms his legs, and he was not it was not mobile, and they I'm looking at the pictures now Yeah shouting the UK must resist His arrest is seven years in the making. The 47-year-old had been wanted by British police since 2012 when he skipped bail and sought asylum at the embassy to escape extradition to Sweden on accusations of rape and sexual assault. Swedish prosecutors dropped their investigations, but the WikiLeaks founder told his supporters from the embassy balcony that he still couldn't risk leaving.

05:03 The war, the proper war, is just commencing. The UK has said it will arrest me regardless. And that's exactly what happened. His fear now, as then, is that the US government will request his extradition on charges of espionage. WikiLeaks has provoked the US government for more than a decade, leaking troves of classified documents and videos online. In the 2016 presidential campaign came more leaks. Thousands of emails hacked from prominent Democrats. US intelligence agencies later concluded Russia had delivered the data to WikiLeaks in an effort to discredit Hillary Clinton, a charge Assange has denied. Now I played this whole clip because I think that's what this is about.

CHAPTER 03 / 41 Discussion

Assange Extradition, Russia Collusion Narrative Theories

The hosts analyze the political motivations behind the arrest of Julian Assange, suggesting it may be used to revive the Russia collusion narrative or provide testimony regarding Seth Rich. They note that the current indictment specifically targets his interactions with Chelsea Manning regarding password hacking.

julian assange· donald trump· russia collusion· seth rich· chelsea manning· mi6

05:51 Obviously, pulling Julian Assange in front of the justice, getting him in front of Congress or the Senate or somebody important will prove once and for all collusion between Donald Trump and Julian Assange and WikiLeaks and Russia. So this is either a mission from what's left over of the people who perpetrated the original hoax, which is MI6. Or it could be Trump himself wanting to pull him out so he can get expert testimony of Hassan saying no and saying it was Seth Rich and whatever else he can get him to say. Well that's asking a lot. Yeah, it is. I'm just saying we don't know which way is going. I do not think that this is what Trump is up to because I don't think he can

06:47 I don't think he can bring himself to do that. Now this is also timing wise part of, well, you know, Barr coming out. Bill Barr, yes, of course. It's perfect. We have the clips. Barr coming out and saying that there was spying going on, which there was, and everyone's all, now they're all aghast about this. Oh my God, he's got to take it back. This can't be true. And that got a lot of headlines and now this will remove that from the front page and put Assange and the horrible hacking of the DNC and all the rest of it, bring that back to the front page to help promote the funny baloney Russian thesis which is you know keep it keep a ball in the air what are you gonna do what else we got well you know it what it provides for is what the what the machine needed the m5m machine needed new fuel

07:37 And now it has it. Now we can talk about Assange and, you know, Grengreen, well, Don Raff, he can get on everywhere and start talking. It's going to be very interesting. I'm already seeing... It'll be funny except for one thing that's a problem for us, you and me. Yeah, it didn't happen. We know exactly what's going to happen, almost to the letter. Yeah. Well, Greenwald would come on and berate everybody and complain that he wasn't picked to go on CNBC anymore, MSNBC anymore, which is his main complaint. And yeah, this whole thing. And there was the Hassan's thing is going to be rehashed and the Seth thing is going to be rehashed. Also, there's an extra benefit to this, that this can push off the Brexit news, the Brexit delay.

08:25 Now, there's a whole lot of people benefit from this, this distraction, as usual. Shall we play the attorney? Before we do that, I do want to mention I'm looking at the indictment. Which indictment? It really targets Chelsea Manning. Who is currently also in jail for not willing to testify. Right. Interesting. So it's really about Chelsea Manning and about him hacking and passwords. It's almost all about Chelsea Manning. It's really not that... Not condemning Assange as much as... Well, Chelsea Manning is the one that actually stole the documents. But we know that that's not what this is about. It's about the WikiLeaks of Hillary's emails and blah, blah, blah. Roger Stone, we can bring him back in. He gets to talk some more smack. Let's go back though to the news that was yesterday.

CHAPTER 04 / 41 Discussion

Attorney General Bill Barr, Spying on Trump Campaign

Attorney General Bill Barr testified before the Senate, stating his belief that spying occurred against the Trump campaign in 2016. Media outlets and Democratic leaders reacted with outrage to Barr's use of the word "spying," characterizing it as a "dog whistle" and a conspiracy theory.

bill barr· department of justice· trump campaign· spying· fbi· surveillance

09:18 with probably the only line that really mattered in the second day of Attorney General Bill Barr testimony, and this is how it went down. both the genesis and the conduct of intelligence activities directed at the Trump campaign during 2016. A lot has already been, a lot of this has already been investigated and a substantial portion of it has been investigated and is being investigated by the Office of Inspector General at the department. But one of the things I want to do is pull together all the information from the various investigations that have gone on, including on the Hill and in the department.

10:05 and see if there are any remaining questions to be addressed. And can you share with us why you feel a need to do that? Well, you know, for the same, well, for the same reason we're worried about foreign influence in elections. We want to make sure that during an elect, I think spying on a political campaign is a big deal. It's a big deal. generation I grew up in which was the Vietnam War period, you know, people were all concerned about spying on anti-war people and so forth. Now is he referring to the Church Commission?

10:44 No, no, no. He's referring to the Vietnam War era. Right, but what... Ghost Church. No, he's talking about, no, the FBI was tagging everybody and spying on every dissident that was doing it in a pre... If you're in a... uh... vietnam war protest they would take your picture and they put a dossier this is the stuff he's talking about now but he's also saying they were very specific rules that were put into place is not what i i was searching around it wasn't really easy to find anything about you know what rules were put into place period you know people not about the church okay all concerned about spying on anti-war people and so forth by the government

11:26 and there were a lot of rules put in place to make sure that there's an adequate basis before our law enforcement agencies get involved in political surveillance. I'm not suggesting that those rules were violated, but I think it's important to look at that. And I'm not talking about the FBI necessarily, but intelligence agencies more broadly. So you're not suggesting though that spying occurred? I don't, well, I guess you could, I think there was a spying did occur. Yes, I think spying did occur. But the question is whether it was predicated, adequately predicated. And I'm not suggesting it wasn't adequately predicated, but I'd need to explore that. I think it's my obligation.

12:15 Congress is usually very concerned about intelligence agencies and law enforcement agencies staying in their proper lane And I want to make sure that happen That's right stay in your lane. Well this caused a shitstorm Sir Ducifer here in Austin put together one of our favorite little compilages of the M5M freaking out over the spying allegation. When you heard the word spying from the Attorney General, what did you think and what does that mean? Well I was very disappointed in what Attorney General Barr said today about spying. how very very dismaying and disappointing that the chief law enforcement officer of our country is going off the rails. Well I thought it was both stunning and scary. This was really a shameful moment for the Attorney General. I'm flabbergasted. My heart skipped a beat. This is

13:11 um... a a completely loaded term completely falls and the attorney general to say so is a stain on his reputation that was perhaps the most shocking to really have this dog whistle that was audible to all species this is off the rails and we we can't address adapt to absurdity was a shame i think today to see bill bar one of our nation's most respected lawyers a two-time attorney general turn in his tortoise shell glasses for a tinfoil hat. You know the term spying has all kinds of negative connotations. But for the attorney general to imply or to say that there was spying domestically he knows the language very well and he knows the terminology. I have to believe he chose that term deliberately.

CHAPTER 05 / 41 Discussion

Mike Rogers NSA Warnings, Clapper Denials

The discussion focuses on reports that former NSA Director Mike Rogers warned Donald Trump about surveillance activities shortly after the 2016 election. This contradicts public denials from intelligence officials like James Clapper regarding the monitoring of the Trump campaign.

mike rogers· nsa· james clapper· donald trump· surveillance· trump tower

14:01 The rats are starting to scatter. Well, it's even funnier in context of play, this is short, of playing, you remember it was in May of 2018 when Trump came out and said, hey they were spying on me. It was in 2017 wasn't it? I said 15, 18 or 17, may have been 17. Well, here's another quick compilage. The notion that somehow the FBI implanted, planted someone inside the campaign to spy on the campaign is just not true. This unproven narrative of a spy being placed inside his campaign. Did the intelligence community spy on President Trump and his campaign? No, we did not. Clapper. Yeah. Always ends with Clapper. We should make it mention a couple of details here before we, so people can be reminded.

15:11 Mike Rogers who was headed heading up the NSA right after Trump got in I came over to Trump's offices and told him about this stuff and Clued him in and then Mike is not there anymore He retired, but he was like a big, you know, he thought this was bad and he told Trump all about it That's where Trump got all this information. Yeah, and then Rogers, you know kind of I guess about a year later. He was out and But it wasn't unfounded or you know without and it's been in the public domain this idea of spying So so the fact that all these Democrats are all bent out of shape about it now is bar says it may have happened Yeah, which if we get to believe the stories about Mike Rogers coming over from the NSA and mentioning it

15:58 We know this has been happening. So these people, we have two groups that are fighting this. One is the group that's gonna be nailed for violation of various laws, Clapper being at the top of the list, among others. And then the Democrats themselves, the Pelosi's and Schumer's who believe that this is going to hurt their chances in 2020, which it will. So we have two groups very much against even using the word spying. Well, it's a very weighted term. Oh, and it's not! That's the joke of it! What better word? Spying. Oh my god, they're using a buzz term. It's a dog whistle! That all dogs can hear. All breeds, all breeds of dogs can hear that one. Well, there's more fun stuff that it hasn't really, well for obvious reasons, hasn't really made the top of the M5M.

CHAPTER 06 / 41 Discussion

Platte River Networks, Hillary Clinton Email Cover-up

Newly obtained internal messages from Platte River Networks, the firm managing Hillary Clinton's private email server, reference a "Hillary cover-up operation" in early 2016. The hosts contrast the media's dismissal of current spying claims with the historical acceptance of the Edward Snowden revelations.

platte river networks· hillary clinton· email server· cover-up· internal emails

16:59 newly obtained internal message from Platte River Networks, that's the company that ran Hillary Clinton's private email server, have shown some interesting things. Email from February 2016, an unidentified Platte River Networks official, a question came in, I'm kind of freaking out about Gresham, thoughts on what to do with, name redacted, the official responded, it's all part of the Hillary cover-up operation. I'll have to tell you about it at the party, smile emoji. That's never good. That's never good. You know, the other funny thing about this, everybody being aghast and calling spying a buzzword and a dog whistle and a, they picked that word carefully and all the rest, is that

17:56 If we remember when Snowden showed up, it became apparent that there was nothing but spying going on every which way. Yes, on the American citizens. On the American people. And so now this is all of a sudden unbelievable. He's bars off the rails. He's swapped his tortoise shell rimmed glasses for a tinfoil hat? Yeah, how does, how do we go from the Snowden revelations about just general spying to bar going off the rails. It just, these people are unbelievable. And the M5M is the problem. I mean, the M5M should be ashamed of itself. Especially when they're the ones who are like, they kind of got a kick out of the Snowden stuff. They should be ashamed of themselves about Assange or Julian because this guy is a journalist.

CHAPTER 07 / 41 Discussion

Waymo Communication, Autonomous Vehicle Fatality Clarification

Julianne, the head of communications at Waymo, contacted the show to clarify that Waymo has never caused a pedestrian fatality. She noted that a previous mention on the podcast likely confused Waymo with an Uber autonomous vehicle incident in Arizona.

waymo· julianne· autonomous vehicles· uber· arizona· twitter

18:53 Apparently they're not well. That's what it'll come down to is he is wiki is wiki leaks of journalistic organization which of course you know will You know goes into First Amendment stuff, and it makes no sense The the theft of the documents is Chelsea Manning then Bradley Manning when it occurred I wonder if that Chelsea could say that wasn't me nothing. Oh, I have a correction to make okay Just I don't want to do it early in the show I got a very nice email from Julianne, who is head of communications at Waymo. Waymo, the self- the autonomous driving car company. Hey Adam, I just heard your podcast, episode 1122, and saw the related tweet to the 737... no, no, and the related tweet relating the 737 to... oh, relating the 737 crash, that is, to Waymo killing a pedestrian in Arizona.

19:58 I want to reach out to clarify that Waymo has never caused any fatalities in Arizona or anywhere. I believe you're referring to this incident with Uber, which Waymo was not involved in. I appreciate you updating your listeners and social followers. I'm glad someone's paying attention. Oh wait, I didn't see this. Might make sense to delete the tweet if possible. That the statement was inaccurate. I don't know about that. I don't think I should do that. I think I should reply to myself. No, you just delete it. It's the easiest way. Nah, you don't want trouble. Well, no, it's just the easiest way. Why? What do you know it's not the easiest way? There's no easier than me replying to myself saying, hey, that wasn't Waymo. Isn't that more transparent? Well, a couple of things. One, they're the ones that will sue you.

20:53 Yeah, they're the ones who suggested that you delete the tweet. But instead of deleting the tweet, you decide to reply to yourself, which a lot of people never read the replies to yourself. I mean, it just doesn't. I would say take their advice and do as you know, in this case, do what they tell you and delete the tweet. It's a simple one click, boom, deleted. Yeah, well if she'd put a link to it, I have no idea where this thing is. You go to, ugh, I bet you I can find it in no time. Oh really? Yeah, really. I think, I don't know, I just, I fundament as a journalist, I feel that it provides, like the New York Times. I've given my advice, I'm done. So you don't have to argue with me anymore. Okay, did you find the tweet?

21:40 I didn't start looking, but I can find it within... I can find it within... What do you think? Three minutes? Two minutes? No, well shoot, I could... I can find it within a minute. I can find a tweet within a minute. That's okay. It's too long for this show. Okay, well... Alright. I'll do it in the background. Okay. Give me your password and... Yeah, sure. Yeah, let's swap passwords. Like millennial lovers. That's a thing. Millennial. That's a thing. That is a thing. Well while you're looking for that just one other quick observation before we move into other news Obama was in Berlin and he was hanging out with Angela Merkel and you know they're kind of lovey-dovey and I think she's infatuated with him. Oh, yeah Yeah, this is a violation of the Logan Act whatever happened to the Logan Act when anybody with poor Michael Michael Flynn

CHAPTER 08 / 41 Discussion

Barack Obama in Berlin, Wedding Ring Observation

Barack Obama met with Angela Merkel in Berlin, prompting a discussion about potential Logan Act violations. A listener observation noted that Obama was not wearing his wedding ring during the visit, leading to host speculation about the significance of the omission.

barack obama· angela merkel· berlin· logan act· wedding ring

22:41 Flynn yeah, well how about this forget the Logan Act so I'm watching I'm paying attention I'm listening to what he's saying. I'm looking at his head I guess I'm really not looking at body language or anything and Tina says huh he's not wearing his wedding ring Michael Flynn no Obama when he was in Germany with Angela Merkel Oh nice catch to which I said is it Ramadan that Ah, another nice catch. But I don't think it is. It's not Ramadan. No, I don't think so. But he's not wearing his wedding ring, which, believe me, women find this odd. Especially if you're with another woman. Yeah, the hottie. The Angela, Angela the hottie. Hey, she looked okay, that naked picture of her when she was 19. It wasn't all that bad. I never saw this. I don't dig around for stuff like that. Well, no, I don't think you want to dig around for it. I mean, I don't want to hurt your eyes.

CHAPTER 09 / 41 Discussion

Brexit Delay, Article 50 Extension to October

Theresa May and EU President Donald Tusk announced an extension of the Brexit deadline to October 31st. Tusk emphasized that the UK retains the option to revoke Article 50 and cancel Brexit entirely during this flexible extension period.

theresa may· donald tusk· brexit· european union· article 50· united kingdom

23:42 But it wasn't all that bad. Alright, so we can move on from there to the other big news. Brexit delayed. I met with Donald Tusk, the President of the European Council, where I agreed an extension to the Brexit process to the end of October at the latest. I continue to believe we need to leave the EU with a deal as soon as possible. And vitally, the EU have agreed that the extension can be terminated when the withdrawal agreement has been ratified, which was my key request of my fellow leaders. For example, this means that if we're able to pass a deal in the first three weeks of May, we will not have to take part in European elections and will officially leave the EU on Saturday 1st June. During the course of the extension, the European Council is clear that the UK will continue to hold full membership rights as well as its obligations. Let me conclude by saying this. I know that there is huge frustration from many people that I had to request this extension.

24:39 The UK should have left the EU by now and I sincerely regret the fact that I have not yet been able to persuade Parliament to approve a deal which would allow the UK to leave in a smooth and orderly way. But the choices we now face are stark and the timetable is clear. Okay, now that is her version of the announcement that the article 50 has been pushed back here is the president over there in the EU's Donald Tursk and he says something very interesting a little additional factoid. Mr. President, dear friends, tonight the European Council decided to grant the United Kingdom a flexible extension of the article 50 period until the

25:23 is 31st of October. This means an additional six months for the UK. During this time, the course of action will be entirely in the UK's hands. It can still ratify the withdrawal agreement, in which case the extension will be terminated. It can also reconsider the whole Brexit strategy. That might lead to changes in the political declaration. but not in the withdrawal agreement. And here it comes. Until the end of this period, the UK will also have the possibility to revoke Article 50 and cancel Brexit altogether. Theresa May didn't mention that as one of the options. That was one of the fears. Hey, what if we want to cancel and just forget Article 50 altogether? No, can't do that. They won't let us. Here it is.

26:19 If they want, they can cancel Brexit altogether. Forget the Article 50. This is working out well for the EU because what it gives them, it gives them the leverage to say, hey, look, they tried it. So if any other country wants to try to weasel their way out of the EU, they'll never, you know, they just point to Great Britain. Look at these guys, they went almost, the country almost fell apart because they tried to get out, because it's not possible. Even the great British Empire couldn't pull it off. Yeah, the British Empire couldn't get out of this deal, so you're a stuck chump. The UK will continue its sincere cooperation as a full member state with all its rights and responsibilities.

27:06 and trusted ally in the future. Let me finish with a message to our British friends. This extension is as flexible as I expected and a little bit shorter than I expected, but it's still enough to find the best possible solution. Please do not waste this time. If you want it, it is, come and Brexit. Make your mind up I gotta tell you our producers are so damn good this song this Brexit song could be used in the UK Political parties could take this song. I'm telling you that is Sir Vicks of the hot southern bush

CHAPTER 10 / 41 Discussion

CBS News Coverage, Long Debunked Spying Meme

The hosts critique a CBS News report that labeled the Trump campaign spying allegations as a "long debunked conspiracy theory." They highlight the media's attempt to frame legal surveillance of Carter Page as "monitoring" rather than "spying" to protect the existing narrative.

cbs news· bill barr· spying· carter page· fisa warrant· media bias

28:07 And Sir Timothy of No Fix Title. Together these forces of Local Number One have joined, have created the Local Number One Choir. This is the latest single on the Local One label. Full track at the end of show. It's an English group I think who did that originally. Isn't that the Beatles? Is it the Beatles? No, I have a feeling it's something else. Anyway, bad finger? No. Maybe it was bad finger. I don't know now. It was the Beatles. Well, it doesn't matter. Let's go on back to the spying thing. I do have a couple... Oh, you want to go back to spying? I'm sorry. I didn't know that we were still on that. Well, you kind of ran me over. Sorry. CBS did a rundown of the whole thing and they had

29:09 And I call it, somewhere along the lines it's referred to, the spying idea, the idea that anyone spied on Trump. I just thought it was interesting that into the public domain they brought in this meme, long debunked. Oh, interesting way of putting it. So when they said that, I thought to myself, long debunked spying theory? When was it debunked in the first place that it would be long debunked? Well, you're because when Trump said they were spying on him at his offices and by the way, there are some looks like G.A.C.Q. was had a warrant to just look at his, you know, look at Trump Tower. According to at least one source, I have a copy of the of the supposed memo.

30:00 Is it because the mainstream media says when Trump said they're spying on me, they all said you lie. Does that constitute debunking? No, no. When Don Lemon says you lie, that's a debunk. Then it's that's long debunked. So in other words, no debunking whatsoever. It's just an accusation, accusational debunking. This is bullcrap. Well, let's listen to how CBS plays this. This was an illegal witch hunt. President Trump's bashing of the Russia probe is nothing new, but he got some unexpected backup today from his new attorney general, William Barr. Yes, I think spying did occur. Barr told senators he's looking into whether the U.S. intelligence community inappropriately spied on the Trump campaign, even as Barr admitted he has no evidence of that.

30:53 I am not saying that improper surveillance occurred. I'm saying that I am concerned about it and looking into it. Do you want to rephrase what you're doing? Democrats called Barr irresponsible and accused him of propping up a quote long debunked spying conspiracy to please Donald Trump. Long debunked. That's a good catch actually. Yeah. Like the way they put a meme into the public domain as to get to public because they're apparently the public is consists of idiots oh It's been long debunked according to her. Well. It is the CIA broadcast system, so yes, yeah CBS and here about the next clip of this so this report how very very dismaying and disappointing that the chief of

31:50 law enforcement officer of our country is going off the rails. He is the Attorney General of the United States of America, not the Attorney General of Donald Trump. The FBI did obtain a surveillance warrant in 2016 to monitor the communications of Carter Page. That's not spying, that's monitoring. I'm sorry. That's the best part. They did get a warrant for monitoring.

32:35 The warrant was based in part on allegations contained in a dossier prepared by a British ex-spy who was doing research for the Clinton campaign, making it a long-time flashpoint for Republicans. Do you agree with me that every American should be concerned? Wait a minute, wait a minute. Let me just listen to that. That again. What exactly did she say? Operatives in the past. The warrant was based in part on allegations contained in a dossier prepared by a British ex-spy who was doing research for the Clinton campaign. They're kind of hanging Clinton out to dry in this report. Well, the way they're doing it, I've listened to this a number of times trying to figure out what style they're using here to bamboozle the public.

33:24 But maybe, Clinton may be hanging out to dry because they don't want her running again and if they could hang the whole thing on her... Oh yeah, that's dangerous though. If they could hang the whole thing on her, they can do the old... Well, our hands are just done. We got it. We figured it out. Yeah, they're get out scot-free But I don't the problem is that seems that too many tentacles reach back into the Obama administration and Valerie Rice and Valerie Valerie Valerie Jared and Susan Rice and all the rest of this team and now also Vicki Newland apparently she yeah, apparently she facilitated See if I had an article maybe I have that here. I

34:08 I think that, yes, she facilitated the meeting. I think she brought in Steele. It wouldn't surprise me. Making it a longtime flashpoint for Republicans. Do you agree with me that every American should be concerned as to whether or not a warrant was obtained against an American citizen with unverified information? Absolutely. So that's that. And the third one? There was something I wanted to say about that. There was a switch back there when she's pushed the one direction and they threw that gratuitous clip. I don't know what that point of that was, but yeah, third clip. Democrats contend this is all an effort to undermine special counsel Robert Mueller's report, which Barr is due to release publicly next week. Tonight, the Democratic leader Chuck Schumer is calling on Barr to either retract his spying claim

35:07 or produce some proof. Jeff. Nancy Cordes, thank you very much. Now, the Democrats, this is weak to the Democrats claim at the beginning of that clip, the Democrats claim this was to something debunk or Robert Mueller's report exonerates for all practical purposes. And I hate using that word. Trump and the whole campaign apparatus So why does she say that at the beginning when we know that can't possibly be the reason? It's deflection. Just play the beginning of clip three just one more time, just the beginning. Democrats contend this is all an effort to undermine special counsel Robert Mueller's report, which Barr is due to release publicly next week. Well, how would that undermine it? What's there to undermine? The report's coming out. Yeah.

36:03 So that, I still can't figure out why that's in the report. To undermine a report that's done and already summarized. Well how about this John? How about this? This is CBS. They're clearly floundering in the reporting. And so someone says, ah man, pull the trigger, get Assange, we gotta do something. Julianne, call Julianne! Julianne. Julianne! This is gonna be good. It's great. From our perspective it's fantastic. Well, from anyone's perspective. You have to remember it's a long debunked. Long debunked. I don't know what you're even talking about. Long overdue debunked. Yes, exactly. Let me see. Are you done with spying? Because I don't have much else.

CHAPTER 11 / 41 Discussion

Morton Klein, Tourette's Syndrome Testimony

Morton Klein, executive director of the Zionist Organization of America, testified before a committee while disclosing his Tourette's Syndrome. The hosts discuss the nature of the condition and Klein's specific vocal tics during his testimony.

morton klein· tourette's syndrome· house judiciary committee· zionist organization of america

37:00 I do have a couple of funny, I mean there's some funny stuff that took place in these hearings. Yeah, and there were a lot of good ones actually. The climate change hearing, although I didn't get any clips from it. We had that, we had the white nationalist hate hearing. That's the one with Candace, which everyone was all jittery about. I got a bunch of Candace clips. Before you do the Candace clip, because I did get, I got one clip from that, let me see. Did I get one? Yeah, no I got two actually. This is, well the first one was a colleague of mine, Morton Klein.

37:44 He's, uh, I think he's the executive director of the... Oh, I have a Morton Klein clip. Zionist... Morton, Morty, he's got the Tourette's. Well, I'll play my clip then. Thanks for ruining the surprise. Thank you, Chairman Nadler, Ranking Member Collins, members of the committee. First of all, I must say I have Tourette's syndrome. Sometimes I have tics and make sounds I can't control. So please forgive me. Finally, finally, something I can make fun of. I'm not gay, I'm not black, but I have Tourette's so I can laugh about this. This is a weird one though. It has a rhythm to it. Yeah, it's not uncommon. I have, when I saw the two hour Tourette's

38:31 special. That's what he's doing that swallowing can't kind of get words out. Yeah, I think I have standing in this area. Thanks. Yeah, thanks for your expertise. I don't think it's uncommon. No, it's not uncommon, but it's a funny one. It's hilarious. Of course, the problem is not. I'm going to start doing it myself. That's the problem. If you saw that two-hour special on Tourette's, you know that we tick each other off. Whoa. All right. Well, okay, I have the definitive Mort clip. Well, actually, before you do that, let me play a serious clip from that. Oh, you have the definitive Mort clip. Oh, I'm sorry. It's a Mort Tourette's clip?

CHAPTER 12 / 41 Discussion

Anti-Defamation League, White Supremacy Genetic Inferiority Claim

Eileen Hershenov of the Anti-Defamation League testified about the links between white supremacy and anti-Semitism. The hosts highlight a specific slip of the tongue where she appeared to state the "genetic inferiority of people that are not white" as a fact rather than a claim made by extremists.

eileen hershenov· adl· white supremacy· anti-semitism· pittsburgh shooter

39:28 No, of course not. Oh, okay. Then let me play the woman, let's see, Eileen Hershinoff of the Anti-Defamation League. But isn't it a pretty close race between African Americans and Jews for the hatred of white nationalists? You know, I agree with you, Mr. Cohen, that we shouldn't compete. These things are absolutely linked. You might start with some white supremacists on anti-Semitism and you will get to anti-immigrants, refugees, Muslims, African Americans, and vice versa. What you see on this is that there is a

40:10 You know, white supremacists used to want to keep dominance. After the civil rights era, they became more and more scared of the extinction of the white race by, if they will call people who are LGBTQ degenerate or sodomites. Excuse me. I'm just going to use the words that we see over and over they will call they will look at the genetic inferiority of people that are not white They will demonize I found this interesting this one sentence listen to what she says they will call they will look at the genetic inferiority of people that are not white they will do that she actually starts off by saying which would be correct they will call people or they will they will accuse people but instead she says

40:51 They will call, they will look at the genetic inferiority of people that are not white. She's saying that as if it's true by the way. Oh yeah. She corrects- There is a subtext. It's interesting she corrected herself. Cause she was about to say it right. you know, they call or they claim maybe she was going to say, but then she, I don't know, it's just something, it's, I'm not accusing her of anything, but it's of note when we listen to speech patterns, which we do a lot here. They will call, they will look at the genetic inferiority of people that are not white. They will demonize refugees and immigrants. They will look at Muslims and they say again and again, who are the ones that orchestrate this?

41:34 They are the Jews. That is what Bowers, the Pittsburgh shooter, came in. He said, I don't want these hordes of immigrants and refugees. It's the Jews that are doing it. All Jews must die. Oh man. The thing is, well, she's the one who, she literally said genetic inferiority of non-whites. Yeah. She didn't say supposed, I mean, if you're gonna be stating this the way you want to make a point, you say the supposed genetic inferiority, which would be an honest way of putting it. You can't say the genetic inferiority. She's a hater. She's a hater. She's a big hater. You and that guy. That's my guy.

42:21 So, Mort comes on and he answers, this is another example and this is the one that Scott Adams pulled from the hearing, this particular clip, saying that maybe this will end the problem once and for all, even though this has been done over and over and over and over again. And it's done one more time with this Go-Mart. Gohmert and Mort Kline clip. Well, I'm glad you asked that because the media has really completely distorted the truth of that episode. What he meant, and he said so when he said it, is that they're fine people who want to get rid of Robert E. Lee's statue, and they're fine people who are not haters, who believe for historical reasons they want to keep that statue. And he made that clear. And then in the same breath, Mr. Gohmert, in the same breath, President Trump said, quote, I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis.

CHAPTER 13 / 41 Discussion

Louie Gohmert, Charlottesville Fine People Hoax

Representative Louie Gohmert questioned Morton Klein to clarify Donald Trump's "fine people" comment regarding Charlottesville. Klein argued that the media distorted the truth by omitting Trump's explicit condemnation of neo-Nazis and white nationalists in the same statement.

louie gohmert· morton klein· charlottesville· donald trump· fine people· media distortion

41:34 They are the Jews. That is what Bowers, the Pittsburgh shooter, came in. He said, I don't want these hordes of immigrants and refugees. It's the Jews that are doing it. All Jews must die. Oh man. The thing is, well, she's the one who, she literally said genetic inferiority of non-whites. Yeah. She didn't say supposed, I mean, if you're gonna be stating this the way you want to make a point, you say the supposed genetic inferiority, which would be an honest way of putting it. You can't say the genetic inferiority. She's a hater. She's a hater. She's a big hater. You and that guy. That's my guy.

42:21 So, Mort comes on and he answers, this is another example and this is the one that Scott Adams pulled from the hearing, this particular clip, saying that maybe this will end the problem once and for all, even though this has been done over and over and over and over again. And it's done one more time with this Go-Mart. Gohmert and Mort Kline clip. Well, I'm glad you asked that because the media has really completely distorted the truth of that episode. What he meant, and he said so when he said it, is that they're fine people who want to get rid of Robert E. Lee's statue, and they're fine people who are not haters, who believe for historical reasons they want to keep that statue. And he made that clear. And then in the same breath, Mr. Gohmert, in the same breath, President Trump said, quote, I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis.

43:30 and the white nationalists when I say fine people because they should be condemned totally. And yet the media has never made that clear that he in that statement he condemned neo-Nazis and white nationalists. He did not mean that they were fine people quite the contrary he's disgusted by those people. Thank you. Thank you. Hey Tourette's shut up making too much sense. Kind of a scripted question and answer but kind of. Yeah, Gohmert is a Republican? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Louie Gohmert? Sure. Just checking. What was his, the crap and trade bill. That's our first clip from Louie Gohmert was like eight, nine years ago. Oh my God. Where he said, and people are going to be upset when they see what happens with this crap and trade bill. I wish I still had that. Probably do. I might be under- It's buried, but the crap and trade. So Gohmert,

44:27 That was one of the witnesses that the Republicans brought up and they made a point of mentioning that the Republicans had their people, including Candace Willis. Well, yes. Now before you get into that, because I know you have the clips and Ted Lieu got burned. My question as we listen to these, is it possible they set him up? No. You don't think so? Now, I don't think it was even remotely possible and Lou, if you looked at him, you watched him during the whole thing, he didn't care what anyone thought. He's put his thing down, played his... I don't have that part of it.

CHAPTER 14 / 41 Discussion

Candace Owens, Ted Lieu Hitler Clip Controversy

Candace Owens clashed with Representative Ted Lieu after he played a short, out-of-context clip of her discussing Adolf Hitler and nationalism. Owens accused Lieu of being "unbelievably dishonest" and explained that her full comments characterized Hitler as a homicidal maniac rather than a nationalist.

candace owens· ted lieu· jerry nadler· hitler· nationalism· prageru

45:04 I have the follow-up, but just to explain it, Ted Lieu took this old, long debunked clip of Candace Owens talking about Hitler. But it was talking about Hitler in a one-hour context as that she was making the claim, and she says so. that she was, a question was asked of her about nationalism and Hitler came into the conversation and she said Hitler was not a nationalist and she went to an explanation of this and Lou just played a little piece of it that was... I don't think that's what she said. I think what she said was just because you're a nationalist doesn't mean that you want to kill people.

45:46 It was a little different what she said. Well, now that I know as you say that I don't think that's true. But she she went on about Hitler would have been fine if he wasn't trying to make Germany bigger. And something along those lines. But let's listen to what she says when she goes off. There's a couple of clips. She goes off on Nadler mostly. Ms. Owens, I'm sorry, we just started recording. Would you like time to respond to that? Yes, I think it's pretty apparent that Mr. Liu believes that black people are stupid and will not pursue the full clip in its entirety. He purposely presented an extract, an extracted clip. Witness will suspend for a moment.

46:25 It is not proper to refer disparagingly to a member of the committee. The witness will not do that again. The witness may continue. Sure, even though I was called despicable. The witness may not refer to a member of the committee as stupid. I didn't refer to him as stupid. That's not what I said. That's not what I said at all. You didn't listen to what I said. May I continue? Please. And the thing that makes this is one of those rare clips that we really should be watching. Yeah. When she says, I didn't say that. And she didn't. She never said he was stupid. She said that he thinks she's stupid. Black people, black people are stupid. Black people are stupid. And so she calls him out for not listening because he's, I think Nadler's very rare to listening to any of this. Right.

47:16 And so she calls him out and Nather goes, meh, he shrugs. Yeah, whatever. Whatever. You hear his little aides in the background whispering? Listen to this. Sure. Even though I was called despicable. Witness may not refer to a member of the committee as stupid. I didn't refer to him as stupid. That's not what I said. That's not what I said at all. You didn't listen to what I said. She said this. She said that. May I continue? Yeah, so then she goes that this is part two of her going off on that Nadler. May I continue? Please. As I said, he is assuming that black people will not go pursue the full two hour clip and he purposefully extracted he cut off and you didn't hear the question that was asked of me. He's trying to present as if I was launching a defense of Hitler in Germany when in fact the question that was asked of me was pertaining to whether or not I believed that Hitler

48:07 was it whether or not I believed in nationalism and that nationalism was bad. And what I responded to was that I do not believe that we should be characterizing Hitler as a nationalist. He was a homicidal, psychopathic maniac that killed his own people. A nationalist would not kill their own people. That is exactly what I was referring to in the clip and he purposely wanted to give you a cut up similar to what they do to Donald Trump to create a different narrative. That was unbelievably dishonest and he did not allow me to respond to it, which is worrisome and should tell you a lot about where people are today in terms of trying to drum up narratives. By the way, I would like to also add that I work for Prager University, which is run by an Orthodox Jew, and a single Democrat showed up to the embassy opening in Jerusalem. I sat on a plane for 18 hours to make sure that I was there. I'm deeply offended by the insinuation of revealing that clip without the question that was asked of me.

48:55 So she wasn't happy. So it comes up another one. This is the only last clip of her. She's not a dummy. No, no, I thought she was great. That's got to be kind of scary sitting there with all these jemokes sitting in front of you. But once she figured out that he wasn't even listening, I think then she's like, oh, screw it. And she just went full on. By the way, The thing that bothered me about this particular, I didn't get any clips, I could have probably, but with ease people move between white nationalist, white separatist, and white supremacist. Throughout the hearing people interchange these words and they really mean different things in different cases. I would hope so. You can't just throw them all together. In that regard it was very lame.

CHAPTER 15 / 41 Discussion

Turning Point USA, Candace Owens Hate Speech Victim

Representative Ken Buck defended Candace Owens during a hearing, noting that the committee's memo used biased language to describe her. Owens testified that she frequently receives hate speech from the left and criticized the media for making such attacks acceptable.

candace owens· turning point usa· ken buck· hate speech· bias· congress

49:51 Yeah, I have to agree. So here's a longer clip of her going off on what happened. Well, this is actually a self-explanatory clip, but let's listen to it because they had, the Republicans brought her on because she had some issues with hate speech herself. Yes, she was a victim of hate speech. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of all, I ask unanimous consent to include in the record a list of political violence perpetrated or promoted by leftist organizations. Is that an objection? Thank you. And I also, you know, I'm riffing on something that Mr. Buck, a gentleman from Colorado was talking about. I don't think I've ever heard anyone in a session like that say, I'm riffing.

50:33 Yeah, you know, I funny I didn't point that out, but yeah, it's pretty odd. I'd say I agree. I'm ripping on something that Mr. Buck, the gentleman from Colorado was talking about. But is that the same as ad-libbing? I'm going off script everybody just so you know, I'm going to do something different here. So I think he meant thinking about. The listing of witnesses in the chairman's memo, it is something I've not seen. in my brief time in Congress or indeed in my many years of legislative service in my home state. That is an editorial comment about a witness. Some might even consider that this not so subtle editorializing is in of itself an indicia of animus. It's unfortunate, but it demonstrates how easy it is to let one's bias appear even in what is supposed to be an innocuous listing of witnesses for the- Would the gentleman yield?

51:26 Yes, I will yield, sir. I assume you're referring to what is written about Candace Owens where it says she's a director of communications at the conservative advocacy group Turning Point USA and a conservative commentator and political activist known for her criticism of Black Lives Matters and of the Democratic Party. I don't think she could Quarrel with the accuracy of that. It's a simple statement of who she is Reclaiming my time what I will say about this is you never ever see Anybody characterized in any other list of witnesses? This is the first time I've ever seen that other than the stating where they represent or the group that they are from this is seemingly seemingly anyway going beyond the bounds of what is the norm and

52:16 That is an indication to me of how easy it is to demonstrate animus. And so it means for a logical question of Ms. Owens, which she's already addressed to some respect, is as you talk, Ms. Owens, and you go to universities, I'm going to go to UConn tonight. Do you receive hate speech directed at you? All the time and I really do feel that the media and the left has made it okay And I do just want to add that my biography which I submitted you reduced it to one sentence Calling me a just a conservative activist, and it wasn't what I said or what I submitted Yeah, okay on the cake there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah the whole idea of what was the point of this of this panel to start with what is the point of

CHAPTER 16 / 41 Discussion

UK Online Harms White Paper, Duty of Care

The UK government introduced an "Online Harms" white paper proposing a legal "duty of care" for social media companies. Home Secretary Sajid Javid warned that tech executives could be held personally liable or fined if they fail to remove "harmful" content, including cyberbullying and terrorist propaganda.

theresa may· sajid javid· online harms· duty of care· social media regulation· censorship

53:04 The point is that show that we have a hate speech problem and we need legislation to do something about it Well, we already have a model for that. Yes, and the model is called duty of care Social media can be brilliant at connecting people across the world But I'm deeply concerned that social media firms are still not doing enough to protect users from harmful content And that's not good enough So today we're putting a legal duty of care on these companies to keep users safe. And if they fail to do so, tough punishments will be imposed.

53:44 The era of social media firms regulating themselves is over. It's time to do things differently. It's time to keep our children safe. Yeah, gotta think of the children. All right, I'm all in. I want some laws. Theresa May. Let's hear what this means. This these online harms laws launching the proposals this morning, Home Secretary Sajid Javid said they would make the UK the safest place in the world to be online. Hey, that's a global thing kind of whatever putting the onus on big tech I'm giving tech companies a message that they cannot ignore. This is the Home Secretary of the UK I warned you and you did not do enough. So it's no longer a matter of choice.

54:33 It's time for you to protect the users and give them the protection they deserve. And I will accept nothing else. The new guidelines would be enforced by an independent regulator, with powers to fine companies and block websites if they don't remove harmful content. The paper even suggests senior executives be held personally responsible. The plans cover content already defined as illegal like terrorist propaganda and child sex abuse and behavior considered harmful like cyberbullying. Campaigners have long called for greater internet safety following cases like that of 14-year-old Molly Russell whose suicide in 2017 was linked to harmful material online. So the regulatory framework is out for this and I think the most important thing is they will be appointing

55:24 a special independent regulator, maybe a czar for compliance, and the regulator will have a suite of powers to take effective enforcement action against companies that have breached their statutory duty of care. This may include the powers to issue substantial fines and to impose liability on individual members of senior management. That will get your attention. Throw him in jail. I hope so. This is a nightmare to enforce. It's impossible to enforce. They're thinking like the UK somehow can turn into AOL. It's alright, everything's safe in here inside our borders. Yeah, and they can sell the keywords.

56:22 This is a complex and novel area for public policy to this end as well as setting out the government's proposed approach. This white paper poses a series of questions about the design of the new regulatory framework and non-legislative package. Note, non-legislative package. A full list of these questions is included at the end of the white paper. So they haven't come up with exactly what it is, but everything I hear is bullying. Bullying! Which is so open to interpretation. Oh, yeah. That's the main one. Bullying, harmful groups such as self-harming. So that has to go. Which sometimes can be good for kids. You know, it's up in the air. It depends, but a lot of people find it helpful to talk about their problems. Is there a Tourette's group somewhere that I can join? There must be.

CHAPTER 17 / 41 Discussion

Pramila Jayapal, Gender Non-Conforming Child Legislation

Representative Pramila Jayapal shared a personal story about her gender non-conforming child during a hearing on the Equality Act. She argued that legislators have a responsibility to protect the freedom of self-expression and to legislate societal behavior toward transgender individuals.

pramila jayapal· transgender rights· gender identity· legislation· equality act

57:17 Oh man, that was like a one kind of a straight line for me that was probably monumental. Yeah, you need some coffee. You need some coffee. I drew a blank. Anyway, this is quite interesting and really when you think about it, There are similar initiatives brewing in the United States Congress. This is Representative Jayapal, Jayapal, the Democrat from Washington, and she had a very... Oh, she's an idiot. You called God, that way I'm going to abandon the UK. Jayapal shared a very personal story about her own child and, you know, the trials and tribulations of her child going through transition.

58:15 And well listen to it. It was emotional, but the way she takes this personal emotion and threatens Threatens is not okay And it occurred to me that we're we're talking about fear versus love We're talking about fear versus freedom, and I didn't intend to say this today But isn't it fear versus what is what is the opposite of fear bravery happiness? Fear versus bravery I think would work. Excuse me. What did she say? Let's play it again. She has two different ones here. And it occurred to me that we're talking about fear versus love. We're talking about fear versus freedom. Fear is freedom! And I didn't intend to say this today. Here it comes. Uh oh. It's tough. Excuse me. Oh boy.

59:14 My beautiful, now 22-year-old child told me last year that they were gender nonconforming. And over the last year, I have come to understand from a deeply personal mother's perspective. I've always been a civil rights activist. I've always fought for my constituents and my communities to have equal rights. But from a mother's perspective, I came to understand what their newfound freedom, it is the only way I can describe what has happened to my beautiful child, what their newfound freedom to wear a dress, to rid themselves

59:51 of some conformist stereotype of who they are to be able to express who they are at their real core. And since this deeply impactful moment last year, my child, who has always done well in school, but has carried what a mother can only describe as a heavy burden of conflict in their own being, that I could not fully identify or help to express. Since this deeply impactful moment last year, my child's embracing of their non-conforming gender identity and all that it has allowed, all that it allows in terms of their creativity, their brilliance, their self-expression, the only thought I wake up with every day is, my child is free.

1:00:43 My child is free to be who they are. And in that freedom comes a responsibility for us as legislators to protect that freedom, to be who they are, and to legislate, as Dr. Wiley so beautifully said, to legislate our behavior towards all people in our society. Yeah! Let's do that! You got me. I feel so sorry for you that I'm gonna let you legislate my behavior. What the H? Jeez, I have no... You can't... Is she serious? She wants to legislate behavior. I mean, yeah, so it's criminal behavior. It's the outcomes of her son becoming a girl.

1:01:30 Yeah, well, it's a personal story. It's effective. I have compassion for her and her daughter. People do that, and that's what, well... But don't try and legislate me from having an opinion, because that's what it sounds like. Yeah, that's what they want. Yeah, well, the United States of Gitmo Nation East, the United Kingdoms, I mean, is well on its way. You already can't bully politicians. I don't know if it's for all celebrities, but certainly politicians you can't you can't bully them. You can't say anything. You can't deadname or you can't misgender. We had a clip just a couple weeks ago where someone got a visit from the police because she misgendered someone's kid online. This is off the rails.

CHAPTER 18 / 41 Discussion

Texas Free to Believe Act, Religious Protections

Texas legislators introduced House Bill 1035, known as the "Free to Believe Act," which seeks to protect individuals and businesses with sincerely held religious beliefs. The bill would prevent the government from punishing those who decline to provide services for same-sex weddings or gender transitions based on moral convictions.

texas· house bill 1035· religious freedom· gay cake· discrimination· lgbtq

1:02:22 Well, the misgendering thing is absolutely ludicrous. Yeah, well, the UK man, they have traditions and norms. Although here in Texas, they're going exactly the opposite way, which is also problematic. The Free to Believe Act. Texas always gets our hackles up about everything. But here we go. The Texas Free to Believe Act, which is to combat the bakery The gay cake problem. The famous gay cake. House Bill 1035 would create protections for sincerely held religious beliefs or moral convictions which a person or entity may then use to discriminate against same-sex couples and transgender individuals. It says that literally in the text. The sincerely held religious beliefs or moral convictions protected by this bill would be the belief or conviction that

1:03:19 Marriage is or should be recognized as the union of one man and one woman, and the terms male, man, female, and woman refer to an individual's immutable biological sex as objectively determined by anatomy and genetics at the time of birth. So what you will then not have to do if you don't want to serve someone in these categories, you will not have to Well, actually it's a prohibition. The bill would prohibit the government from taking any discriminatory action against a person who declines to participate in providing treatment, counseling, or surgery related to sex reassignment or gender identity transitioning or psychological counseling or fertility services, marriage-related goods and services, photography, poetry, videography, disc jockey services. Hey, I'm available for all your LGBTQIAP services.

1:04:17 Bring me on. Wedding planning, printing, publishing, similar marriage related goods and services, floral arrangements, dressmaking, cake, pastry, I mean it goes on and on and on. It's kind of sad that they do this. Well, I don't see why that is necessary but okay. It seems completely unnecessary. I guess she'll just get a cake. It's all about the gay cake. I doubt that. I don't think this will pass. It probably won't. I don't think so. Well, with that though, it is high time for me to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in duty of care, John Searick. In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. Also in the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames.

CHAPTER 19 / 41 Discussion

No Agenda Art, George Washington Measles Money

The hosts discuss the artwork for episode 1127 by Nick the Rat, which depicted George Washington covered in measles spots. They speculate that social media algorithms may have blocked the image because it featured a segment of a dollar bill, triggering anti-counterfeiting filters.

nick the rat· no agenda art· george washington· measles· mmr vaccine· censorship

1:05:06 And nights out there. I got my bongos back in the morning to everyone in the troll room trolls there with their poles poking away We'd love seeing that thanks for the info the feedback the one-liners. It was indeed bad finger just so you know And you can find all that merriment and fun at the Troll Room, which is noagendastream.com. 24-7 we've got shows running on it. You can hop into the chat room, chat away. We've got a lot of live shows. It's a fun place to hang out, particularly if you're a troll. And then I'd also like to say, in the morning, to Nick the Rat. He brought us the artwork for episode 1127. The title of that was Netherlindian.

1:05:51 And I realized something about Nick's art, which was George Washington from the dollar bill and he's covered in measles spots, which signified the money-making efforts of the pharmaceutical industry with the most recent push of the MMR vaccine. Deep man, but here's what I discovered. Yeah a number of people tried to retweet this picture And it did not go it would not retweet and I realized why why it's a picture of money I think the other picture of money. It's a picture of a very small segment of a dollar bill Covered in red dots. I'm I can find no other explanation for some of the night. I understand the explanation. Yeah, I

1:06:45 No, I agree that it's not money. It's not but I think that the algo may have seen that and got okay Let's just not do that. Well, that's pretty advanced if they can do that they can do other things then well this well block Rob Reiner I was gonna say now there's the question is can they or won't they? Yeah, there you go. Huh? This is our our value for value network that we've built up over 11 years between our producers who produce the program. Many of you do a lot in stories. I've got a couple things to read today, in fact. Great clips come in. We have artwork, as we just showed, noagendaartgenerator.com. But then we also have producers who support the program financially, which is desperately needed. And we'd like to thank some of those people now.

CHAPTER 20 / 41 Discussion

Producer Donations, Chaga Mushroom Tea, Disjointed Animation

The show acknowledges high-tier donors and discusses health tips like Chaga mushroom tea and Lion's Mane for memory. A producer shared a link to an animation from the Netflix show "Disjointed" that humorously summarizes various conspiracy theories in one minute.

sir cal· patrick coble· chaga mushroom· lion's mane· disjointed· netflix

1:07:37 Well, let's start with Sir Cal of the Lavender Blossoms, $420, and he says he sent you a note that you're gonna read. He did? Uh, let me see. Uh, Cal. Yeah, hmm. He did? He said, Adam, please see the email I've sent you about the rest of the interview during the Rubella Measles case. Oh, yes, okay. I did get that and I have I have a little segment about that for later Yes, let me also say he says John if you ever tried chaga mushroom teas mix with some lion's mane It will work wonders on your memory and immune system and the answer that that query is no are you gonna try it? I've never heard of chaga mushroom tea although I have heard of lion's mane. You're gonna try it. Oh

1:08:27 If I can ever see it, maybe you should send me some I'm sure he can obtain some for you Yes, I have a funny story from from Sir Cal of lavender blossoms org later on okay? Well, it will just skip to Sir Patrick coble well We do we do want to say that we appreciate his coded message of four hundred and twenty dollars Yes Lavender blossoms org is where you can find all your fine CBD products. Yeah, he's good. Yeah Baron Baron coble here writes. Uh, oh, he sends in the three hundred and sixty nine ninety nine, which is a what? Well, sir, coble, the fc signet power. Yes, but I think sir, sir, coble is a.

1:09:13 Duke by now. Yeah, I think he's a Barron or so he's taking on the Intel donation amount that we had from Baron ADF dash C Yeah, so it's 369 99 these guys are coding each other now We all know cobalt he's not I don't think he works for an intelligence. He's not a spook now. He's a penetration expert Yeah insert joke here. Yeah, I think we don't have to be juvenile about that. I mean I would never go that Try to be juvenile with the joke. Happy sixth to his beautiful superstar princess of a daughter, Catherine from Sir Patrick and Dame Sarah. I love you. I need some book writing karma to help on some looming deadlines. Book writing. You've got karma. All right. Maybe you can get some tips. What's a pain in the ass? Yes. So I'm so I am reliably informed. Well, yeah, if you ever need any kind of

1:10:14 If you need a pep talk, give me a call. Sir Veiled in FEMA Region 4, $300. Sir Veiled, which is one of my favorite knight names. Sir Veiled. Thanks for all you do. This should raise me to the title of baronet. Indeed it does. Yes, indeed it does. We'll see you at the ceremony later. It's got the accounting linked. Yes. Then we go into Rob Romeo or Romeo. Romeo, Romeo. Tomato tomato 207 77 he's in dear Delaware dear Delaware. I can't I'm sorry let me get a little sip of tea. What are we drinking this morning?

1:11:00 PG tips. Tips. ITM guys, clawing my way to knighthood as well will be at the roundtable soon. I have been listening to old episodes in between new shows and John's chair has been squeaky since at least show 157. What? This is an outrage. It can't be the same chair. Yes. It is? Oh yeah. Now, could you just take a picture of just this chair? I mean, I think the chair needs a little exposure. The chair is... Okay, I will take a picture of the chair, even though I did post a picture of my studio the other day. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that was very realistic. Did you Photoshop that in GIMP? I'm glad you think it's so funny. I just find it to be highly amusing. No, it's the same chair.

1:11:53 Before I forget, please send me an invisible No Agenda hat. Make sure you get that. That's Adam's job. Hold on a second. Hold on. Where is it? Let me... Fire up the drone. Here it comes. Alright, and it's off! You got it. There goes that drone. That's right. How many of those do you have at your office? Oh man, I got a whole fleet. I got a swarm. Well, you get a free drone with it apparently if you can shoot it out of the sky. I would like a Nancy Jobs Jobs Jobs for a friend who got screwed by the Girl Scouts and the tooth extraction goat and some tooth extraction goat karma.

1:12:28 I hoping I do not scream like a goat or a little girl. Last note, my wife was watching a show called Disjointed. It's about people that run a pot shop in California and seemed perfectly funny. Netflix did not renew it however. An animation came on that made me snap my head around from the other room when I heard it. Had to find this online and listen a few times, but thought it was great It is every conspiracy theory in just over one minute Oh, I'm sure this is the best audio, but it covers the reptile reptile reptiles to the moon landing 9-11 chemtrails fluoridated water and so much more oh Okay, well there's a link there, so I'll take a look at it after the show. Thank you. I didn't say I'm out I'll get a copy of it. Okay. I'll get a good clip of it. Well. Is he yeah, okay? Sure you promise

CHAPTER 21 / 41 Discussion

Canadian Dollar Parity, House Karma Requests

Several Canadian producers took advantage of the show's standing offer to accept Canadian dollars at 1:1 parity with the US dollar. Donors requested "House Karma" for real estate transactions and celebrated birthdays while discussing the impact of the new Canadian carbon tax.

canada· carbon tax· house karma· birthday· currency conversion

1:13:18 Yeah, I'd like to see what that shows about. William Carter and Russell and Soder. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Rob asked for Jobs, Karma, and some tooth extraction goat karma. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You thought. Karma. William Cotter in Cotta Cotta KOTT er in Roseville, Minnesota 201 and he says NJ NK and then yes, I noticed this too that by coincidence Yes to Canadians both and this is weird to me both wanted

1:14:05 to take advantage of an old offer of... Well, I think it's a standing offer. It's not just an old offer, it's a standing offer. It's a standing offer. You got Canadian money, you want to take credit for it, you want to get into this ranks. Okay. We got anonymous and spasm BC, $146.66. They also have a photo that I posted on Twitter. I'll put it in the newsletter maybe. And this is a $202 Canadian dollar donation which comes in at... Oh my God. 146 66 you guys are so hey, you know, we're not like the other NAFTA douchebags. We're helping you guys out We love our Canadians. Yeah, we do we go to connect Candian avian dollars sent from the side of the road and spasm Thanks to the Hollywood North and a certain fruit companies new streaming venture I get ya Hollywood North is Vancouver BC for anyone doesn't know I get in fact if you wanted to have some fun and

1:15:02 Go to Vancouver BC and just get on the Los Angeles flight on Friday afternoon late Friday. I've got a lot of actors It's all actors and people carrying huge film cans. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep Yes, we can get into a conversation with some actors and actresses are what they're happy to talk I got to a long chat with Richard Benjamin once who's Richard Benjamin He was in a lot of Woody Allen movies And so I talked to him but you most of the people know who he is you if you saw him you say oh, yeah that guy I just asked him about working with Woody Allen and if he would do some more work with him. I got to work on a film set in Spuzum. With any luck, the Canadian dollar will keep plunging, but let's have some Canadian dollar karma for those who rely on purchasing power to make a living.

1:15:50 Please bless the lowly film technician with the following jingles. Apparently he's a film technician. Which has to remain anonymous for some reason because he's afraid of Hollywood. Have more kale? Wow, I am really high. That's true and two to the head. At the end of the show if you can play drone again. 73s and keep up the good work anonymous and spasm. So have more tail, have more tail, have more tail, have more tail, have more tail, have more tail, you will obey. Wow. I am really high. That's true.

1:16:37 You've got karma. According to Sir Honey Badger on NAS, one Canadian dollar is honored as one US dollar. Please accept this $200.01 Canadian conversion rate blah blah blah. Please accept my donation at face value for Canadian. It goes on with this. With this donation I'll be halfway to knighthood for $54.48 short.

1:17:20 If you only accept USD value, I wish I could afford a full USD $200 donation, but even this amount is pushing it for me financially between bills and an ongoing house purchase. Still, I want to do something big with my birthday coming up on Friday. I'm turning 36 or as I prefer to view it, 24 in hexadecimal. I'd like to request House Karma in hopes of the purchase. You could also do the gag. That gag could be, probably would have been funnier as a callback if you'd done your birthday in Canadian dollars. Right. Just a structural thing there. I thought I'd mentioned. I'd like to request House Karma in hopes that the purchase process continues smoothly all the way to close in mid-June. As well as, have you seen the FEMA numbers? We don't have that. Hopefully, attach to or at link below if you don't

1:18:12 Don't already have it clipped out or downloaded from my previous email. Thanks again for the effort in keeping our amygdalas properly sized. Chris Harabarack. And he has a link to a clip that we didn't download. No, I'm sorry I didn't download that, but I will download it for the next time. I promise. So that's it. Is it? Yes. House Karma. Yes, House Karma. Absolutely. You've got karma. I was trying to get that download. I just couldn't do it that quick. Okay, so Canadians picking up on that fabulous offer that will stand until the end of time. Well, I think it's funny that for the last six months nobody's done this and then just once out of the blue using the random number theory boom boom two of them do it. Yeah, not that random because you know what what happened here is these guys got their carbon tax.

CHAPTER 22 / 41 Discussion

Value for Value System, Executive Producer Credits

The hosts explain the "Value for Value" model, where listeners determine the worth of the content and support the show financially. They credit various producers for their contributions and encourage the propagation of their media deconstruction formula.

value for value· executive producer· podcasting· donation· media deconstruction

1:19:09 So now they're all broke from the carbon tax, so they gotta go back to some previous offers. I understand it. We approve of it. You get a box of carbon? I mean, you're playing... What do you get for your carbon? What benefit is it to you, the citizen, to pay a carbon tax? Well, you know what the... Does it stop global warming? No. Does it make less carbon? I don't think so. So what good is it? What's the point? We'll talk about that in a moment. But thank you very much to our executive producers and associate executive producers for supporting episode 1128 of the No Agenda Show, No Agenda Podcast, NoAgendaShow.com. These are the credits. In fact, it's too bad he's anonymous, but here we have an actual person in the entertainment business.

1:20:00 from Spasm and he I don't know if he's going to use this executive or associate executive producer credit or not in the in the film business I don't know. Right? Makes it rough. But consider doing it because maybe you'll get newfound respect on the Friday night flight back to Los Angeles. We will thank more people, $50 and above, in our second segment. And of course, as always, we'll have another show on Sunday. You can support the work at... I think we've got everything down for you that you can take out there, propagate the formula everywhere. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

1:20:41 Order! Shut up, Slade! Shut up, Slade! So while we're on that... I don't- by the way, I don't think our spasmist, I think he's a local. I don't think he gets to take that flight. He doesn't go back to LA. Oh, okay. Well then he can still use the credit. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I- I would recommend he use the credit at least. And what we just talking about he was I want to play a clip. Uh, what was it? I interrupted you. No, it's all right back to the spreadsheet. It was damn it. What were we talking about? We were talking about spasm. No, it was something that was something other than spasm. Uh, oh, okay. Here's here's what we have to do. We got to talk about

CHAPTER 23 / 41 Discussion

Dr. Christian Bogner, Rubella Vaccine Propaganda Outtake

Dr. Christian Bogner's interview with a local Detroit news station was heavily edited to support a pro-vaccine narrative regarding a rubella scare at an auto show. Bogner's full letter reveals that his factual statements about the low death rate of measles and vaccine ingredients were omitted from the final broadcast.

christian bogner· rubella· measles· vaccine safety· detroit auto show· media manipulation

1:21:35 The clip that I played on the previous episode from the Detroit Auto Show. Oh, okay. And that's where Cal's note comes in. So just to refresh your memory, this was a weird clip. It was some, you know, it was to round out the trifecta of we have mumps, oh my god, we have measles, oh my god. We needed the rubella to make sure we promote more of that vaccine, which I now understand not the going out of date of the patent, although I do have a patent expiration from Merck, but they had a batch that was going out of date.

1:22:11 So they really wanted to push this final batch to get it to everybody. But there was an odd doctor cut into the interview. And we both remarked when we played the clips like this guy, he's saying he has the wrong message for what they're trying to do. Listen to this. The number of four thousands of people possibly exposed to rubella at the auto show. Someone who attended the show has been diagnosed with the illness. 7 Action News reporter Alan Campbell is live at Kobo Center with what doctors are saying, Alan, about this health scare. The North American International Auto Show wrapped up last weekend at Cobo Center. It's a popular event for thousands of people, but now those who attended between January 13th and 15th may have been exposed to rubella. Most people don't know what it is, but it's really a viral infection and so a virus causes it. A recent article in the Washington Times is sounding the alarm during a current measles outbreak in both Washington State and New York, saying communities there are among the most

1:23:12 unvaccinated, including some here in Michigan, and it could be a reason the illness is spreading. We have to stop calling measles a disease. It's a 10-day infection. That's the guy. I encourage everybody to look at facts. So for those parents who choose to not vaccinate, that's their choice. The article also highlights some of the anti-vaccination hotspots throughout the country listing Troy, Detroit and Warren as problem cities. I fully realize that those who believe in the value of vaccines will probably not be Persuaded by the facts which anyone with a computer and internet access can verify from US government sources. Doctors say if you think you may have been exposed, see your doctor. Safest thing, go talk to your doctor, make sure that you've not had the infection. But most of us should be okay because we've been vaccinated. So when we heard this clip the first time, both you and I went, how is this guy, who's clearly against vaccines, slipped into this vaccination propaganda piece?

1:24:12 Yeah, well Cal says ha ha the guy's name is dr. Christian Bogner. He's a very good friend of mine He's a big proponent of cannabis travels worldwide and speaks at seminars about the benefits He's part of the team who met up with the state attorney general to add new medical conditions to the medical marijuana program Autism was one of these conditions Bogner is the medical director of one of the biggest recovery centers in the Midwest Oxford Recovery Center and where they treat autism, cancer and all gut-related glitches. Yes, he said it. The guy's a genius. I couldn't believe I heard this interview on NOAGENA, so I texted him right away and asked him for what was going on. Turns out a local channel was trying to promote the vaccines, so they interviewed him at the last minute as a last-minute add-on to their bullshit propaganda. But he spoke against the vaccine, so they cut out most of the interview. No kidding. This is kind of an interesting analysis of local

1:25:07 local news who had to put a package together that the very last minute call a guy and then you know he has the wrong message so they just throw a couple of quotes in there and and just leave everything that he said which is actually counterproductive to what they're trying to achieve with the message and they air it anyway and he attached a letter he sent to channel 7. Thank you channel 7 for having me on to share thoughts regarding the recent measles outbreak Although it wasn't measles, it was... It was. Oh, it was measles. Was it measles? No, rubella. Well, it is German measles. Measles. Unfortunately, he says, about 100% of my facts stated were omitted and cut out, so I wanted to share what I also said for those who want to really know. In the case of measles, the death rate has declined by almost 100% before the introduction of the vaccine in 1963.

1:26:02 Deaths due to measles in the last decade, zero. Source CDC. Deaths due to measles vaccine, 108. Source the VAERS database. The vaccine information sheet given by your pediatrician is not the manufacturer's vaccine insert and omits critical information. Seizures, encephalopathy, Encephalitis. Well it says encephalopathy. Encephalopathy. Encephalopathy. Whatever. Yes. SIDS and autism just to name a few. The measles vaccine does not create lifelong immunity whereas natural infection with measles does. By 1963 almost no one had ever died from measles.

1:26:47 The early measles vaccine that contained killed virus was an aluminum precipitated vaccine produced from formaldehyde inactivated monkey kidney cell cultures. Yum. Yikes! A study from 67 revealed that the vaccine could cause pneumonia as well as and syphonopoly vaccine ingredients. Just give up on that. Vaccine ingredients today, thimerosal aluminum formaldehyde, MSG, acetone, glycerin, lead, yeast, animal DNA, polysorbate 80, and aborted fetal tissue. It is estimated that 33% of childhood illnesses can be attributed to environmental toxins. Okay. Well, there you go.

1:27:33 He's kind of pissed that they left all of that out. Well, it's interesting, I mean these local stations, well see usually there's a package going around that you get that's been kind of dubbed the package to run because everyone's gonna run it and then you to give it a local flair. Yes, flavor. To add some flavor to it, you put in your own little bit to make it seem so it's not just a packaged piece of crap that you just air for people no one's ever heard of. Exactly. So you just bring in some local guy, and, oh crap, we gotta air the guy's no good. Just throw in a couple quotes! Exactly how it went meanwhile really really sick. No, what's sick is what they do that? What that guy's letter said is more interesting than any of these measles reports. Yes, because he has very interesting data there that we I didn't even know that had been eradicated before the run that somehow I would get we got to get permission to run that I'm gonna put on cosmic weenie to rerun what that letter I

CHAPTER 24 / 41 Discussion

Bill de Blasio, New York Measles State of Emergency

Mayor Bill de Blasio declared a public health emergency in New York City, mandating measles vaccinations for residents in specific Brooklyn neighborhoods. Unvaccinated individuals who have been in contact with infected persons face fines of up to $1,000, primarily targeting the Orthodox Jewish community.

bill de blasio· new york city· brooklyn· measles· mandatory vaccination· public health

1:28:37 Oh, I have the letter. He sent me a copy. We can use it. Yeah, I know, but I don't have permission to publish it. Sir Cal will get you permission. Don't worry about it. What is really disgusting is what's happening in New York. A state of emergency. New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio declared a public health emergency on Tuesday as a measles outbreak rattled the borough of Brooklyn. This will mandate vaccines for people living in the affected area. Department of Health will issue violations and fines to people who remain unvaccinated. This is so wrong. The government, your local state government, is forcing you to take a shot?

1:29:26 And if they're forcing you to take a shot for measles, holy crap, what won't they do next once you're used to the idea? Oh yeah, I trust the government. Who remain unvaccinated. The outbreak has mainly been confined to the Orthodox Jewish community in Brooklyn's Williamsburg neighborhood with around 300 confirmed since October. That's up from only two reported cases in all of 2017. We cannot allow this dangerous disease to make a comeback here in New York City. We have to stop it now. The disease that killed almost no one until the vaccine came out and then over 100 people died. Measles was declared eliminated in the United States in 2000, but has recently seen a resurgence with nearly 500 cases reported in 19 states this year. No, no. De Blasio said that Department of Health officials will check vaccination records of anyone who has been in contact with infected people in certain areas and will impose a

1:30:23 fine of up to $1,000 if a person is not vaccinated. The measles is highly contagious and can lead to serious complications and death. Despite scientific evidence to the contrary, a growing vocal group of parents are opposing vaccinations, believing some vaccine ingredients can cause autism or other disorders. While there have been no confirmed deaths in the measles outbreak, so far 21 people have been hospitalized. What's interesting to me, although it's two different states, and I believe it's California, where purposefully, if you purposefully have sex with someone and give them HIV, you're not punishable. Didn't we have that story a while back? Yes, that was, at first you were, and then they dropped it. So you are or you're not? I don't think you, I think what you said is correct.

1:31:19 I mean, and so, but in New York, if you have, if you're not vaccinated, you can get a thousand dollar fine for measles. Yeah. Welcome to New York. The liberal boroughs of New York where AOC came from. Yeah. And before y'all run off and go cry and pout, we're not anti-vaxxers. You can't even have a conversation about vaccinations without being called. Yeah, because you're branded. Yeah, immediately. Unfairly branded. When it's bull crap. Immediately. We're anti-unnecessary or bull crap or dangerous vaccinations. While we're going back in time, I wanted to talk about code switching for a moment. Code switching? Yes.

CHAPTER 25 / 41 Discussion

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Code Switching and Accents

The hosts discuss "code switching," the practice of adjusting one's speech patterns or accent to match an audience, following criticism of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. They compare her behavior to past instances involving Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, noting that linguists consider it a normal social gesture.

alexandria ocasio-cortez· hillary clinton· barack obama· code switching· linguistics· accents

1:32:10 Yeah, you remember we had a conversation and there was a lot of course it's gone now and now that you know now that everyone's on to other topics about AOC and her so-called pandering to a black audience right and to which I said, you know, I got to think about this a little bit and Code because it is called code switching which was her immediate response after everyone started making fun of her. There's a Wikipedia page, there's professors in linguistics, in fact I have one. Code switching is very normal. We all do it. You and I do it all the time. We get a donation from Australia. What's the first thing we do? Mate?

1:32:57 Righto. We throw it on the bobby, we get something from Canada, you're the first, you actually are the first one to say a boot. Yeah that's that is code switching. Yeah. And we all do it but somehow when we when politicians do it people get really pissed off. Now here's two examples. The one that I think is actually unfair is Hillary Clinton And the way this has been presented by mainly right-wing media outfits is, oh, look at her pandering. Well, what she was really doing is she was quoting Reverend James Cleveland, and apparently it's not all that odd to then adopt an accent. Here, to refresh your memory. I don't feel no ways tired. I've come too far.

1:33:52 And of course the audience loves it. Of course it's funny. Well this one, you remember President Obama. Puerto Rico! So I looked this up, this is from 2014 Georgetown University professor of linguistics, Deborah Tannen, says this is quite normal. Yes, also for politicians. We tend to assume that we have a baseline of speech that's going to be normal in all contexts, but the truth is we all change our ways of speaking depending on who we're talking to. And so I think it's kind of a gesture of

1:34:41 politeness to the people you're speaking to, to try to say something in their own idiom. So to say Puerto Rico in Puerto Rico, I think is a pretty natural thing. It's interesting how we react when politicians do it. Maybe we're kind of predisposed to think that anything a politician does is calculated and therefore a suspect. But it's only reasonable really to adjust the way you're speaking to your audience. Yeah. Oh no, that means I can speak like this? Well, so there's two things. One, I'm giving a total pass to AOC. I give a pass to Hillary Clinton. And yes, we can do all these voices without, with just, hey, we're just code switching. So when we talk like this, we can do whatever we want about the dawn of my head and we're just code switching.

1:35:29 Or you could do your absolutely fabulous and somewhat famous. Hey John, what is great man. This is super great to have you on the podcast. Hey I'm coach switching, listen to this clippy. And I think this is a bit what's happening in the way we react to politicians. It can feel like you have no right to speak that way. You're not from the South. You're not from Puerto Rico. So you should say Puerto Rico like all the other people from the place that you come from. I would suggest that people be a little more indulgent and compassionate and just listen to themselves and realize how differently they may speak in different contexts and maybe cut some politicians a bit more slack. So the question is, of course, can I as a straight old white man, can I code switch if I'm in front of a black audience?

1:36:20 I said, what up bros and sisses? Can I do that? Is that okay? Or is it... If you're going to take the broadest interpretation of what she said, and she's only one person by the way, there's a lot of people that will frown upon you doing a Japanese guy or a Chinese guy or even a, I mean, Bill Dana got run out of town as a comic because he did a Mexican voice. Yeah, he made Moshi. Hey, senor! Somebody says that and the next thing you're out of here. But where does, where is... That's the question. I mean, we have now we have two different thoughts. I think if you're doing the voice, I think technically, if we're going to do this technically, it doesn't apply to us because we're,

1:37:04 We don't have bosses and we don't have a corporation, we just have our listenership that supports the show. But I think, this is the way I interpret it, technically if you're doing it to mock, hey senor, like that, that's mocking, it's mocking, nobody talks like that. That is bad. Well, then we're really bad because all we do is mock. But if you throw two Spanish words in when you're ordering a taco, you know, hey, el pastor, you know, carnitas. Carnitas. I can say carnitas. And... That's okay, I'm not mocking anybody. I just want a taco with carnitas. Okay, well, so all I'm going to do then is I'm just going to fall back to my previous excuse, which is Tourette's.

1:37:48 In other words, the Dutch guy stays. The Dutch guy never leaves. But I'm allowed to do that because I speak Dutch. And by the way, all the Dutch people who hear me now, they know it too, man. They know that the Dutch are crazy when it comes to speaking English. Whatever they call it. Well, at least we were enlightened there a little bit. Yeah. So, but I'm still going to give... And Hillary Clinton, she's been in the South. Well, she's yeah, she lives in Arkansas as the governor's wife and that's pretty South and you I bet you hear this all the time South Alabama It's not Bama. No, it's not Bama Bama. Not not not Georgia. It's not Bama Yes, I realize I realized by the way just speaking of AOC that she kind of well, I don't know if this is a if I can make this accusation, but I think you subscribe to

CHAPTER 26 / 41 Discussion

Modern Monetary Theory, AOC Economic Policy

The New York Times reports that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and other "Justice Democrats" are proponents of Modern Monetary Theory (MMT). This economic theory suggests the U.S. can borrow and print unlimited money to fund social programs without fear of debt, a concept the hosts find highly skeptical.

modern monetary theory· mmt· alexandria ocasio-cortez· federal reserve· inflation· debt

1:38:47 to at least part of what the new Democrats, the Justice Democrats, the AOCs of the world are doing, what the New York Times describes as modern monetary theory. Have you heard this term? Yeah. Well, I hadn't. But apparently whenever you say... I can't tell you what it is exactly at the moment but I've heard it many a time. The modern monetary theory is that we should be able to print as much money as we need to... Sorry, it makes me laugh just thinking about it. Well you're the guy that's always saying we should be printing a lot more than we already are.

1:39:28 You have, at least in the past. I have said that because at the time we were trying to keep the economy from collapsing and we've done a pretty good job of it by printing a lot of money but that doesn't mean you can go nuts. Right. Well, I just want to put the term on our radar because the New York Times says that this is what Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, am I allowed to do that? Am I allowed to pronounce her name properly? From Puerto Rico. That sounds so ridiculed to me. Your squeak is also ridiculing me. So the New York Times describes that as a modern monetary theory and that that is what these people like AOC are talking about. I presume you no longer subscribe to this print a trillion dollars. Well, you know, it's more than just printing. It's using the money to buy the bonds up. It's not like you're just printing money and throwing it into circulation. It's not. I don't know what they're thinking.

1:40:30 And it's not really being printed as just all on paper. Well, here's what the time says proponents of modern monetary theory believe the US should borrow more than it does currently which is roughly 1 trillion dollars per year Why worry the US can simply create the trillions needed to pay off all of that debt and there's a flaw in that thinking right there I don't know how they come up with that. Well, they There is underlying the theory, even though it hasn't been executed yet, even starting in 1999, I've heard nothing but this. We can't be printing so much money, we're gonna have hyperinflation. Which has not occurred because we're in a depression type economy, which prices are going down. To get it back to normal, the one or 2% inflation rate, you have to print a lot of money. So you're kind of creating a hyperinflation.

1:41:24 at 2% based on the fact that prices should be dropping like a rock and everything should be damn near free. Now, that said, if you do crank it up and really start literally printing money by the boatload, yes, that will cause hyperinflation, then you can pay off these debts with inflated money. Because, you know, we'll all be carrying around trillion dollar notes like they did, you know, we got those African notes. The Weimar Republic. So you take your trillion dollar notes and said, here, banks, we've just paid off the bank. Paid you back. I paid you back. Yeah. And unfortunately now everything costs a trillion dollars. But. Right. Yeah. I don't know. These guys are, they're kind of lunatics. Well, we'll just keep it on the radar. I trust the Federal Reserve.

1:42:08 Wow. Let me write that time code down. That's a good show opener. I trust the Federal Reserve. Oh, geez. Well, and of course, the next thing I would say is a clip here. Mm hmm. The douchebag clip. Oh, OK. God, I'm a douchebag. You've been watching Family Guy again. Alright, well while you were doing that I was latching on to the hottest new thing in the climate change world We've been tracking it since the beginning of this show. This is also one of the oldest jingles we have I'm pretty sure as a predictive note we've I We I have always said you just wait until

CHAPTER 27 / 41 Discussion

Solar Geoengineering, Harvard Sulfur Dioxide Proposal

Harvard researchers are proposing solar geoengineering by spraying sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere to mimic volcanic eruptions and cool the Earth. Critics warn that this could disrupt global weather patterns, while proponents argue it is a cost-effective alternative to reducing carbon emissions.

geoengineering· solar radiation management· harvard· sulfur dioxide· climate change· chemtrails

1:43:02 All of a sudden they're gonna start implementing this and they're gonna say yeah, you're testing it all along. It's great. It works. It's fabulous. It's fantastic. Nothing to worry nothing to see here. Spray away! So this proposal is to use solar geoengineering to reduce temperatures. In essence it's a way to mitigate some of the risks that climate scientists are saying will come from CO2 emissions. So in essence it's actually an alternative to lowering carbon emissions and some see it as a magic bullet in this way where we can curb the effects of CO2 emissions while continuing to pump millions of tons of CO2 into the air. So this type of geoengineering uses sulfur dioxide. We're going to inject that into the stratosphere. Sulfur dioxide is the stuff that comes out of volcanoes when they erupt. So when a volcano erupts,

1:43:47 There's actually a lot of dust and gases that blot out the sun. So these Harvard researchers, these scientists are saying that we can mimic what happens after a volcano eruption to reduce temperatures. And the way they're going to do that is airplanes. They say a fleet of specially designed aircrafts can literally spray sulfur particles into the lower stratosphere and they're saying, hey, dozens of nations already have the money to do so. I mean, let's not like, you know, mince any words. What we're proposing here is launching aerosols into the air. So historically there's been a problem with this and critics of this type of geoengineering say, look, no one really knows how to control it with accuracy. This could easily disrupt

1:44:25 climates around the world inevitably leading to winners and losers with some regions suffering greater harm. But now these researchers are saying it can work without some of those anticipated side effects like extreme rain and hurricanes. They're saying that this work challenges that assumption. Won't they make it darker? Won't it be like night all the time? Yeah, and that's the question. Do we have the right to a blue sky? How much is this going to cost? Okay, so these researchers say it'll cost 3.5 billion to launch and then 2.25 billion every year after that. Wouldn't that be worth it if it's actually able to slow down global warming? I mean true, but do we want to put that kind of power in certain hands? That's all up for public debate. And you know, some people are saying, hey, maybe it's cheaper to just bioengineer humans so that we have a conscience, that we stop polluting so much.

1:45:11 What lunatic, what crazy show is this? And who was that woman? It was the millennial on RT. Oh my god. I like her though. They've got these millennials running around, these young kids at RT and they come up with great stories. Now this is based upon research from Harvard. We actually had a clip a couple weeks ago about this being shot in the upper atmosphere, not the lower. Well, now it's just throw some airplanes up there. No problem. They're already good to go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nothing like SO2. For years, for years I'm wearing a tinfoil hat. I'm a nut job. I'm a crackpot conspirator. You are still wearing a tinfoil hat. You are a nut job. Well, talking about millennials, then, if you want to go in that direction, I caught a millennial on... That was rather insulting. Oh, I'm just kidding, of course. I love, I love.

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Elissa Rubin, Millennial Jewish Anti-Occupation Movement

A radio segment featured a debate between 86-year-old Jason Pearl and his 24-year-old granddaughter Elissa Rubin regarding Israeli policy. Rubin, a member of the "IfNotNow" movement, argued that the current Israeli government and its alliance with Donald Trump are making Jews less safe and fueling anti-Semitism.

elissa rubin· ifnotnow· israel· netanyahu· anti-semitism· generational divide

1:46:06 I caught a millennial on with... Wait, stop right there. I caught a millennial is just a statement by itself. My only question is was it in the trap? Did you get it in the cage? In the trap. So this millennial is with her granddad. They're both Jewish. And I only have these clips for the one reason is that it showed up on It was a discussion about Israel and Palestine and it's the modern millennial and the old man, the 86 year old granddad and the granddaughter and they argue with each other. But one is the millennial and she's a millennial and it's mostly really this in her clips because I love, she up talks like an outrageous up talker, a know-it-all. Scrumptious.

1:46:56 I didn't get to see her, it's on World, it was a radio show. And she's going on and on and he... But I want to play these clips, there's four of them, they're very short, except for the first one. And play the first one and that is to give you an idea what this is about. In Israel, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has emerged as the winner in yesterday's general election. His main challenger, Benny Gantz of the Blue and White Party, conceded defeat today. Netanyahu is now on course to become Israel's longest-serving Prime Minister ever, and he's expected to form a solidly right-wing governing coalition in Israel's parliament.

1:47:34 That trend toward the right is one of the reasons that the American Jewish community's relationship with Israel's government is increasingly fraught. Some see the divide as generational. That includes 24-year-old Elissa Rubin, a community organizer living in Boston. Rubin is a member of If Not Now, a Jewish anti-occupation movement that is a source of anguish for her grandfather, 86-year-old Jason Pearl, a lawyer in Bloomfield, Connecticut. I have spent a great deal of time with Elissa as she was growing up and it comes as quite a shock to me that she could have an attitude toward Israel different from grandpa's. For many years, grandfather and granddaughter have been debating US policy toward Israel. Today, they're letting us listen in. When I was about 8 to 10, I was at a men's breakfast in my synagogue and someone who had in fact escaped from Europe

1:48:30 was telling the men assembled there on a Sunday morning, telling them about the annihilation of European Jewry and they castigated this man, they yelled at him, liar, it's not true, the Germans would never do this. I mean, they were vituperative toward this man. That it was impossible that the Germans were bent on annihilating European Jewry. I grew up knowing there was this great need for a land that would accept Jews. Elissa doesn't have that experience. She knows that she's intellectually brilliant, and she knows these things happen, but she didn't live through them, and there's a big difference. Ah, so this is modern Jew theory, then. Now, the key word here was

1:49:23 Elissa is intellectually brilliant. Yes. This is the granddad and the granddaughter, and by his standards, and by the way, you always, you listen to him, he sounds like he needs to kind of cough up some phlegm, which is a style of speaking you run into. Anyway, her intellectual brilliance from the next few clips is, I don't know if there's any left in this clip. No. is on display and here we go. Alyssa, through the 30s and 40s, do you agree with your grandfather that you see the world differently because of that, because of the time you grew up in? Yeah, we've had this conversation a lot of times and it's really helped me to ground in the perspective of somebody that grew up during a really different time. And I think a major shift that's happened over the last few years, particularly since Trump's election and the growth of this

1:50:11 right-wing white nationalist movement is that I've really started seeing anti-Semitism expressed in this country in a more visceral way than I've ever experienced it before. And I think where the difference lies is that I see the U.S. and Trump's relationship with the Israeli government and with Netanyahu as fueling that anti-Semitism and not protecting us from it. Oh, luckily we can blame Trump for it. So it's Trump's fault that the Jews apparently have become anti-semitic The guy has so much magical power. She is an intellectual brilliant person So let's listen to more of her because I just think she's hilarious. It feels like a tension for me to know that I

1:50:57 I don't believe that the way that Israel is currently set up or the way that our whole world order is set up is really living out the values of Judaism. And I acknowledge the really deep historical connection that we have to this place. And having been there has been a really complicated experience for me, and I also did feel this sense of connection. So she's been there once and saw some sense of connection. She also has a lot of vocal fry in the up talking. But I was fascinated by this because I realized that it's the educational system in this country that is getting a Jewish girl to hate Israel and Jews.

1:51:39 So let's listen to the last thing. Your best example of up-talking is coming up. Hold on. How do you take it from it's Trump's fault to it's educational system? Well, I have to assume that because, well, I'm giving the educational system the blame on this because what I'm hearing is the same kind of just memes and thoughts and a way of looking at things that you would get from University of California or Swarthmore or Harvard or Yale or any of these places that have been brainwashing these kids into this stance. I just think that's where it's coming from. She's not getting it from her family. No, that's for sure. Certainly not.

1:52:22 So let's listen to her final answer. To me, if we don't criticize Israel and we don't hold Bibi accountable, we don't hold our people and the American Jews that support Israel unquestioningly, then we ourselves are putting, we're putting ourselves in a dangerous situation where right now the mainstream Jewish community is allying itself with Trump and with anti-Semites and white nationalists all in the name of protecting and supporting Israel. And so I think that we make this implicit assumption that Israel equals Jews and Jew safety equals Israel. And I feel like in this moment, there's actually been a shift where Israel and its current, in the way that Israel is currently operating, is actually making us less safe. And I believe that Jews and all people deserve to be safe.

1:53:15 So she believes that Jews and all people deserve to be safe, and that is her analysis of the whole thing. So, oh man. Yeah, I blame the educational system for this entire structure of what she says, and it's all Trump's fault. And again, she reiterates that Jews flocking to Trump is just promoting anti-Semitism. That's the part that's fantastic. Does she know that Trump's daughter's Jewish and Trump might be himself? And no, no. So it's just as the same anti, it's not even anti-Trump, it's anti-Republicanism which is being taught in schools. It's not, Trump just happens to be there and he's an easy target, but it's not Trump, it's Republicanism. Well, this is clearly a sign of the end of times. This is... Of talking? No, just the thinking she has by itself is very troubling.

CHAPTER 29 / 41 Discussion

Angelic Initiative, Spiritual Reality vs. YouTube Comments

The hosts discuss the "Angelic Initiative," a group that acknowledges higher powers but struggles with objective reality. They contrast the group's spiritual claims with the often toxic and indifferent nature of YouTube comment sections.

angelic initiative· spirituality· god· reality· youtube

1:54:21 It's kind of self-contradictory. I think we need a visit from the angelic initiative. You know, it's one of the really sad things about all this. No. It's the YouTube comments that we read where it seems like people just don't care what's true or what's real. Yeah, they don't care. What's actually going on. Yeah, they don't care at all. This is a new episode. I'm you've hooked me now the big guys upstairs could tell them exactly what's going on Yeah, and tell it to them in a way. That's relatable. Yeah and clear yeah and relevant to their own personal life very relevant and the people just wouldn't want to listen to it They don't want to hear it such a bummer for them I don't want to do it, and you can't make me but they don't even want to listen and it's really weird it is

1:55:06 I think it's actually better this latest crew because they at least acknowledge that there is a God and the first crew was arguing that God's a scam. That's true. Which was really, I don't even know where you start with that. And this latest crew, they at least know there's a God. They seem to be on board that there are higher powers. Then it all breaks down because they don't seem to care about reality and reality matters. It does matter I have to watch them every morning now. Oh god You banned me from running that stuff and now you're doing it There's something about him There's something about that's true. It's still stuck. That's true. Actually. I do have Let me just fit this one in before we go into our break. I

CHAPTER 30 / 41 Discussion

Facebook Truth Task Force, Women-Led Content Moderation

Facebook's "Truth Task Force," led by Campbell Brown and Alex Hardiman, is a predominantly female team tasked with combating fake news and misinformation. The hosts criticize the initiative's definition of "diversity," noting it focuses on skin color rather than a diversity of political opinions.

facebook· campbell brown· alex hardiman· truth task force· fact checking· diversity

1:55:57 There was an interesting piece on CNET which I chopped down quite a bit and it was about the Facebook... what do they call it? Not the protection team. The Truth Task Force. Protection team? No, it's the Facebook Protection Team. I think Truth Task Force is their actual name. The Facebook Truth Task Force and their entire mission in life is to... Truth! Yes, make sure that whatever you see in your face bag news feed is true. There's something interesting about this group though. Fake news is waging war in your Facebook news feed.

1:56:39 and the people on the front lines of the battle are women. We recognize that it's kind of unique to have this team working on something that's so critical to the company, and given that there's a sense of pride. A sense of pride? And the company? Accompanies that and makes it kind of a special team to work on. Campbell Brown, a long-time television news journalist, heads up the news partnerships team. We need to regain the trust of people who are on Facebook, who engage with news on Facebook. And then we need to regain the trust of publishers also. Brown's group works with the news product team, also led by a woman, Alex Hardiman. You catching the theme here? They decide what kind of stories show up in your Facebook news feed and what shouldn't see the light of day. Just to state the obvious, we are at a crazy moment in time where a lot of people really don't trust the news and the information that they see.

1:57:32 and that is an incredible problem that we have to solve. I mean, we have heads of state who are in active warfare with really good credible news organizations and- Awww, Trump! That's deeply problematic. I don't think that a platform should be fact-checking what individual or people are saying in their own communities. Where that changes and where our responsibility is significant is when false news and misinformation is maliciously spreading on Facebook and leading to real-world harm or real-world outcomes. And that's where we need to take a broad set of actions in order to prevent it from appearing, remove it, or reduce its distribution. It's a massive, complicated undertaking, and one that will change what you see in your Facebook feed. Facebook's strategy is to lift news from trusted sources higher.

1:58:16 Fake news and hoaxes will still be there, but pushed farther down with links from fact checks to provide context. But what sets this team apart is its members. Women. At Facebook, where men outnumber women almost two to one, this team is led by two female division heads and women make up the majority of its product leaders. They are fearless. They are fierce. And it's because when you think about how you want to spend your time, for many of us, there's no greater thing that we can try to do than to solve these problems as best as we can. Does that matter? It may. Research shows women-led teams with greater diversity are more successful than the norm. And the success of this team at the planet's biggest social network has high stakes.

1:59:00 Their decisions can shape the future of journalism and affect elections. We're not just doing a job, it's working on incredibly hard problems that are going to define the future for our children. That future will still have hoaxes, misinformation and conspiracy theories. But Facebook is putting women on the front line of your news feed, hoping to turn the tide. I found this quite insulting. Well, besides being insulting, I would like to know the political backgrounds of each of these women. Yes. Is it a balance? They say diverse. Do they mean diversity of opinion or just one's black and one's Asian and one's white? I'll answer the question. Having watched the piece, when they say diverse, then they cut to an Asian woman and then a black woman and back to the white woman.

1:59:50 Okay, so the diversity is just the diversity of skin color skin color. Yes skin color diversity, but no opinion diversity There's there was anyone wearing a MAGA hat. I doubt it No, yeah, so this is just rigged it's the problem they're the problem not the solution they're fiercely the problem yes, they're very fiercely the problem it is problematic and I don't like how well seen that of course is also run by by women at the top Lindsay, what's her name? I don't know. Turpentine. I forget her last name. But yeah, I find this troubling. Lindsay Turpentine. That's not her real name.

CHAPTER 31 / 41 Discussion

Donor Thank You, VJ Days, Douchebag Confessions

The hosts read a list of donors contributing $50 or more, including several from the Netherlands and Germany. One donor recalled Adam Curry's days as an MTV VJ, while another confessed to feeling like a "douchebag" after a difficult divorce and finding solace in the show.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· donations· karma· vj· mtv

2:00:47 Now we do have a few people to thank, starting with Robert Smiley, Sir Robert of the Souvide. He's in Holland, PA and he's going to become a baronet. Very nice. Rob Van Dyck, who I think is a sir. He's in the Netherlands somewhere. 100. Alexander Sulzberger, 8008 in Delaware. Matthew Mungan, 69. Kimberly Burden in Greenville, Michigan, 67. Olaf Wolff, these are all 67. This is my birthday donation. Leftovers. Yes, yes, yes. Olaf Wolff, Jackson Gilmore, 67. Sir Rob Knight of the Philanthropic Shareholders Federation, Leiden.

2:01:37 Netherlands. Mika or Mica, Mica, Mica, Mica. No, this is Mica Miller. You were right. It's Mica Miller. Thanks, Mica. Joseph Finley in Louisville, Ohio. Brian Pearson, 66, 66. The well-wishers ended with one, two, three, four, five, six. Brian Pearson, 66, 66. Sir Peep Slayer, 66, 11. He wants some jobs karma. I think some other no no he said he says he actually says job karma works. Thank you Oh job karma love and light. He says this is part of his paycheck. I guess it's Jackson Gilmore that wants some jobs karma, okay Chris Grom grommel grommel grommel he needs jobs karma. Yeah 55 55

2:02:24 He has an interview on Friday. I guess that's tomorrow Dennis Stevens mile-high night in Parker, Colorado 5510 sir Andy Cantrell 5510 Which is funny because we had that special 5510 offer in there. I guess these two guys who took it up. Newsletter. Sir Eric Hochel in Mulrose, Deutschland, 52. John L. in Garden Center, South Carolina. It's a very long note for some reason. It's Golden Corner. Not even close to Garden Center. I said Garden South. Sorry. No, it's okay.

2:03:09 Yeah that. He's got some note here about he got a happy birthday to Brandy, his sister. Yes. She said she was a fan of yours in the VJ days as you, but has managed to successfully dodge all attempts of being hit in the mouth. No agenda. Thinking maybe this will help. Oh, especially because I was a VJ. I like how he did it. The VJ days. It used to be VJ, but you make it VJ. I'm a VJ. You're a VJJ. I used to be a VJJ. You're a VJJ. Kimberly Redman in Toronto, Ontario, 50. These following people are $50 donors. Name and location shortlist today. Robert Bruckner, anonymous scrometer. Drew Mochak in El Cerrito.

2:03:56 Roy ten Hava in pine pine pine knocker. Yes, you know it Pine knocker Netherlands Robert Deccan a or Ducati in Fairfax, Virginia Joseph Spinoza in white Fort white, Florida John Jonathan Ferris and liberal, Kansas Joseph Spinoza says I read I realized as my baby girl I 10 and a half was running around singing Dvorak.org slash NA and shut up slave. That I'd grown to be a douchebag since I was divorce- divorce raped and suffered parental alienation and narcissistic abuse. Please forgive me. Ver-uhh... Vern gone... hmm... Well, let me de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de

2:05:02 That would be very annoying to have a kid saying that to their parents. You heard us kids, you know what to do. She's a future VJ in making. Tony Smith in Fort Worth, Texas, 50. Larry Hay in Mooresville, North Carolina. Patrick Frank, Patrick, where'd I get that? I don't know. Frank Molinari in Bullvard, Texas, Bullvard. And last but not least, Sir Kyle Meyer in Atlanta, Georgia. I want to thank all these folks for supporting us and producing this show. I can't even know the number is 1128. That's right. Well, we micro dose during segments. Amen. That's all right. It's the bionic eye. That's what happens. Well, we do want to thank everyone on this list profusely for supporting the work on the NOAA Agenda Show. It's how the value for value system works.

CHAPTER 32 / 41 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Sir Robert of Rhinebeck

Robert Makowski is knighted as "Sir Robert of Rhinebeck" for his cumulative donations exceeding $1,000. The hosts also elevate Sir Vail and Sir Robert of the Sous Vide to the rank of Baronet during the ceremony.

knighting· baronet· robert makowski· rhinebeck· no agenda· honors

2:05:52 You just come up with a number. What was it worth to you? Did you learn anything? What value do you place on that? That's what you send us. That's how it works. And also thank you to everybody under 50 for reasons of anonymity or for those who are on some of our subscriptions. Please take a look at all your opportunities at devorak.org slash N-A. By multiple requests. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. And today is indeed the 11th of April, 2019. The birthday list is as follows. Sir Patrick Coble and Dame Sarah say very happy birthday to their daughter Catherine. She's turning six. Christopher Harabok.

2:06:43 Harabaruk 36 tomorrow Sir Andy Cantrell happy birthday to his beautiful daughter Lucilla she turns 11 on the 13th and John L says happy birthday to his sister Brandy we say happy birthday to everybody here on behalf of the best podcast in the universe! We have Sir Vail of FEMA Region 4 becoming a baronet today thanks to his additional $1,000 in total donations to the Best Podcasting Universe. Also same for Sir Robert of the Sous Vide. He also becomes a baronet. We congratulate

2:07:26 both of them on their title increases and you can go to noagendahr.com to find out exactly where all these people's protectors are, etc. And for today we have one nighting so let me get my... Here we go. I got it right here. Ready? Yes. Got it. Perfect. Just won today Robert Makowski. Come on up to the podium. Thank you very much sir. You are becoming a sir as you are about to join the table of the NOA Agenda Knights and Dames. You can see them right here. Thanks to your support of the show and the amount of $1,000 or more I am very proud to pronounce to KB

2:08:03 Sir Robert of Rhinebeck, for you my friend we have... Is there something you wanted to say? Yeah, I did one of I noticed down the list we have somebody that didn't come in at 50 But they needed an F cancer karma, and I thought we should at least not You've got karma always time for cancer was that the ass cancer do what well I got I got an email earlier from one of our producers. Well, it may have been the same A quick look at our meetup schedule. This is getting very exciting. We have quite the list This is where people get together

CHAPTER 33 / 41 Discussion

No Agenda Meetups, Player Annotations, AMAC Magazine

The show highlights upcoming listener meetups in Atlanta, Seattle, and Zurich. They also promote the "No Agenda Player" for its new user-generated annotation features and joke about a host being subscribed to the Association of Mature American Citizens (AMAC) magazine.

meetups· no agenda player· annotations· amac· mature citizens

2:09:00 Without us although in Australia they had the Sydney meetup, and they had brought along the goats head. Did you see those pictures? No, I did not see the picture. Yes had an actual goats head and our real head. Yeah, yeah No, no there were pictures of our heads, but there was a real goats head The 20th of April the greater Atlanta meetup you can find out all about these meetups at no agenda meetups calm no agenda meetups calm no agenda meetups calm and Also on the 20th, Portland, Oregon. April 27th, Zurich, Switzerland. May 2nd, Seattle, Washington. May 18th, Cincinnati, Ohio. May 25th, Eastern North Carolina. And May 25th, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I love seeing this. I think this is such a good initiative. And I mean, it's kind of busy in the next two months because we have the move and then we have the wedding.

2:10:01 Which, uh, Tina still wants to live stream this. Live stream what? The wedding. Why? I don't know, for donations. She said we can, I'm sure you can get donations if we live stream the wedding. I like the idea, I mean, for the donations, but I don't know, it's kind of a private thing, it seems to me. I said I'm okay with the idea as long as she puts a GoPro on her head. A what? A GoPro. A GoPro on her head. Yeah, that would be great, actually. I knew I could get you get some get some wedding photographers and make sure they get a couple of shots of that And the tiara and I also I want to bring back promotion for the no agenda player our producer Isaac

2:10:52 who created No Agenda Player, noagendaplayer.com, which is one of the best resources. Well, we got a lot of great resources, but you can go to noagendaplayer.com and you can link straight into any segment of the show and it helps you create a link to that or you can tweet it right away. Now as an added bonus, Because he was doing the annotation which kind of fell by the wayside. It's very difficult to annotate. Just to keep up any work. We've seen this many times on the show. People get very helpful, they want to do a lot and then after a while you're sick and tired of doing something twice a week for three hours. It's not all that easy. We make it look easy. So now anyone can submit for annotations.

2:11:40 So you can help tag the show which will I mean this is the thing a lot of people always want Hey, why don't you make chapters? Yeah, why don't you do a rundown on the site? So we can go straight to the time code. No. I have no time for that now But now you want do you want a show or do you want? Bells and whistles for a crappy show right so the bells and whistles now can be user-generated And you can do all of that yourself And that is noagenderplayer.com. It's a fantastic resource. And I want to thank whoever the joker was for subscribing me to the AMAC magazine. Very funny. That wasn't me. Do you receive AMAC? I don't know what AMAC is. Association of Mature American Citizens magazine. Exactly. I got that and I'm like,

CHAPTER 34 / 41 Discussion

Insulin Price Gouging, Hospital Budget Back-Filling

Congress held hearings on the skyrocketing cost of insulin, which has risen from $21 to $275 per vial since 1996. The hosts discuss how hospitals and insurance companies negotiate lump-sum budgets and then "back-fill" individual procedure prices to meet those arbitrary totals.

insulin· sanofi· drug prices· healthcare· insurance· congress

2:12:36 That doesn't make me feel good. I'm now in the mature category. I don't know if anyone subscribed yet. It could have been some just a free giveaway because you're on a list of people over a certain age. That's even worse. Whatever list. They're looking to get other stuff. Well, I got a couple news items I want to get out of the way. Alrighty. I want to get this story out of the way because I think it's just another one of many of these stories. I do not know why somebody can't take action, why somebody can't do something about this unbelievable ripoffs that are going on about with the drug companies because they're just scamming the insurance companies so they jack their prices up because

2:13:14 You end up having to pay more for your insurance, you wonder why everything costs so much. But here's the latest in the series of these bullcrap stories. This is insulin. Congressman, no one should be rationing insulin. And they do every day. Drug manufacturers and pharmacy reps were grilled today about the skyrocketing price of insulin that has led some patients to ration the life-saving drug. I've been here for a couple minutes, how frustrating it is to be on this side of the dais and watch everyone else do this. Some studies say the underuse of insulin could affect nearly 40 million people with diabetes by 2030. Nobody cared or nobody understood that without this next vial of insulin I wouldn't live to see another week. 28-year-old Kristen Whitney Daniels started rationing her insulin after she was kicked off her parents insurance plan two years ago.

2:14:02 I can't really explain how isolating and how terrifying it is. She's now a patient at the Yale Diabetes Center where a recent JAMA study found one in four patients reported cost-related underuse. This is a wake-up call for us as a country. Dr. Kasia Lipska treats patients including Daniels at the clinic and was the study's lead author. She testified on Capitol Hill last week. This vial of insulin cost just $21 when it first came on the market in 1996. It now costs $275. Some drug makers are already reacting to the outrage. Today, Sanofi announced it will cut the price of insulin for uninsured patients and those who pay cash to $99 a month. But that doesn't eliminate advocates' concerns.

2:14:53 People are dying from lack of access to a drug that's been around for almost a century. I think it's unconscionable. Insulin manufacturers told us today that they have taken steps to address prices, including offering free medication to people who qualify. Jeff? A wake-up call is right. Anna, thank you very much. Wake up call. This kind of thing can be, you know, the Congress and everybody bitches and moans. I think the way to eliminate this ridiculous situation is to make it illegal for the major drug companies to own the generic drug companies. That's all it would take.

2:15:35 Because once they started figuring out that, hey, if we own the generic drug companies, jokes on them about anything going off patent. Two things I learned about. One is there is a burgeoning do-it-yourself pharmaceutical industry. That doesn't surprise me. Yeah, it's interesting to look into them. With all the technology we have these days, you can actually make a lot of stuff yourself. I'm not necessarily sure you should do it. I think that was most interesting to me. You know how hospitals have different pricing for the same procedure even between the hospitals? Like it can vary wildly like $100,000 more than the same procedure somewhere else at a different hospital. Right. I now understand why and how that works. I understand the mechanism. So it was load balancing.

2:16:30 explain you may be you may be right what do you mean load balancing well if some hospitals got for example they have I know with cat scans and such and such and such there are some places are very there's a long waiting list and they charge a lot and then someplace got nobody there and they don't charge anything just to figure out which place has got the cheapest price no So no, that's not how it works. Let's just take hospital, because that's the only thing I've read about is it was hospitals. The hospital will, it talks of course to all of the insurance agencies. And there's maybe what, three, four big ones they got to deal with, let's exclude Medicare. And the insurance company will say, well, let me see here, last year we gave you $400 million

2:17:20 This year we're going to do $380 million and then the hospital will go back and say, no, no, we actually need $410 or $415. So they go back and forth until they arrive at a number. They just arrive at the overall number the insurance company promises to pay the hospital for procedures. And the hospital then has to back that number into whatever they did. It doesn't even go by individual treatments. It's total horseshit. They just make up the numbers to fit it into the overall budget. Well, that's not load balancing, that's just bull crap. Yes!

2:18:01 Yeah, that could be true. We had to look at yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. I'm quite sure that this is going on everywhere. And yeah, I mean, that's the problem. And so, you know, just by publishing, notice this, wasn't there some regulation, you have to publish the pricing on your website? Where'd that go? That went nowhere because no one can really do that. You can't actually publish your pricing because they don't know. They're just backing it into whatever budget they have. It's disgusting. And again, during this Obamacare conversation which is back people conflating health care versus health care insurance So while health care may be a right I guess Health care insurance. I don't think is a right well. It's conversational What does that even mean? I mean something to talk about now before I get to my funny clips I

CHAPTER 35 / 41 Discussion

April Blizzard, HAARP Weather Modification Theories

A massive April blizzard struck the Midwest, dropping up to 24 inches of snow in South Dakota. Adam Curry suggests that the highly unusual weather patterns and "extraordinarily strange" jet stream behavior may be evidence of operational weather modification or HAARP activity.

blizzard· south dakota· weather modification· haarp· jet stream· climate

2:19:02 Let's at least mention the snowstorm because I think it's hurting our donations as usual. In South Dakota turned winter white, clouding visibility and pushing 18 wheelers off the road. Blizzard warning spans six states from Minnesota to Colorado, where crashes closed I-70 in both directions near Vail. The sand and salt being sprayed is salt in the wound for areas still recovering from last month's flooding. Watertown, South Dakota is in the storm's bullseye. getting up to 24 inches on top of the 56 that's already fallen this year. That's nearly triple the norm. We joined scotty Brinkman here while he was out treating the roads. He says this april storm is the biggest of the year, 50 degrees yesterday and blizzarding today when it was 50 degrees.

2:19:50 Did you ever think you'd be out here in the truck? No, I didn't I figured we were done. I really did and When they said this snowstorm was coming. I was like what? Yeah, I'm just gonna say it since you know now 11 years later. We're finally right about chemtrails I'm gonna say harp has been operational and what we've seen this in this this past winter is extraordinarily strange It is not just strange, extraordinarily strange. And I look at the patterns, I look at how it's, and you know, I do know a bit about weather from my aviation days. These patterns are very strange. And sometimes it goes contrary to what popular belief is how the jet stream would push things. It's a very, very

2:20:39 Odd weather behavior, so I'm gonna I'm gonna say that there's possible modification going on I don't know why unless it's to bankrupt the United States. I don't think it's good for crops for just for fun I Got nothing you're right. It's for fun. So let's go to a C-Span call-in. Oh all right Cuz I got an ISO out of this one. And then women still support him. And I can't understand that he has degraded the presidency. He doesn't make good decisions at all. And I believe that all his success are flukes because he keeps putting people in place to make his, whatever he's trying to do successful.

CHAPTER 36 / 41 Discussion

Workplace Violence Purge, Trump DHS Firings

Media commentators compared Donald Trump's recent firing of DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen and other officials to a "workplace violence incident." The hosts mock the psychological framing of routine political personnel changes as a "pathway to violence."

donald trump· dhs· kirstjen nielsen· secret service· workplace violence· cnn

2:21:39 He tries to block, uh, he's trying to block evidence at every degree. To me, he's a crook. And you're ISO? To me, he's a crook. Now, I think this is problematic. Here's what we have. We have, of course... We have that as ISO. We have... God, I'm a douchebag! And we have... To me, he's a crook. Yeah, this is toughy. I know which one you like. No, no, no, the Tourette's one. I'm not gonna do that. I won't do that. What do you want? Douchebag? I think Douchebag is pretty good. Douchebag is good because it's clearer. Yeah.

2:22:24 Yeah, but I want to just cut it off after. God, I'm a douchebag! Just cut it off there. Yeah, I could have done that. I should have done that myself. I think that's the way to go. I did like kind of the crying at the end. So, you know, I'd like to have been collecting these man on the street things. Yes. Now this one here, I'm gonna, this one is that I'm gonna Curious that can you find Finland on the map? The question is can you find Finland on the map? Of course nobody can but there was a there's a little bit of humor in this one that I wonder if because I didn't get it immediately It took me like a couple of beats at least two beats before oh, geez Mmm Finland known for its fish obviously because of the Finn Yes

2:23:14 Yes, so in this is known for its fish obviously The word fin What she should have said sharks then it would have been even better yeah, I can point to Finland on the map I'm sure you can't like it for sure. I've been there. I love it. Let me I've been to Finland allow me to play something funny We had some shake-ups in The Department of Homeland Security, also the Secret Service, Trump is firing people. What we talked about was a possible analogy between what we're seeing in the president and studies of violence and acting out, particularly workplace violence. And we talked about the path, the journey and pathway to violence when we see people using language of despondency, lashing out, blaming others, obsessive, compulsive attachment to one issue and the inability to get off of it.

2:24:10 In that case, it would be the border and security on the border and immigration. And so are we, the question we have to ask ourselves from a behavioral sense is, are we watching a president essentially on his way to what we call a flashpoint? And are we now beginning to see him act out in the form of purging and mass firing and completely not listening to any logic? When people say to him, the law or policy is such and such and we would be violating the Constitution or the law, and he simply dismisses it and fires people and keeps doing it. Are we essentially watching a workplace violence incident play out at the highest level of our government? And is he acting out now? And where does this go, if I'm right about that?

2:24:54 Workplace violence? What, firing somebody is suddenly workplace violence? Does anyone know that he's kind of known for firing people from his old show? But was this on CNN? That's my guess. This was sent to me by producer. I don't know the origin, but I got CNN written. Oh wouldn't surprise me We had the kids over last night the one of Tina's daughters the one who's Who lives here in Austin and her boyfriend and she is now general manager at a nice restaurant Which is a complete? Career change for her. She's a film major and she's really digging it. She's really into it. But now she has to bring her team together and she's trying to hire people.

CHAPTER 37 / 41 Discussion

Millennial Job Interviews, Austin Restaurant Hiring

A local Austin restaurant manager reported that every millennial job applicant she interviewed admitted they "didn't care" and were only there for the money. The hosts discuss the lack of basic interview skills and professionalism among younger job seekers.

millennials· job interviews· austin· hiring· food service· work ethic

2:25:41 Yeah, she says she hasn't hired a single one. Now granted food service is and this is a you know, this is an independent restaurant It's not part of a chain. It's a hell of a horrible business and food services where you know kids go to get some change You know just I'll just work this but she said of the I don't know is it 15 interviews? Not a single one picked up on the clue when she asked, you know questions like well, you know What do you hope to get out of this? If you're doing an interview, you'll say something smart that'll get you the job. An example would be, well, I hope to work with a great team and I'm really looking forward to serving great food. Anything. Just make it up. No.

2:26:27 Every single one would say, I really don't care. I just want to make some money until I find something better. Every single, every single one. Wow. I mean, it's okay if you want to be honest, but I mean, giving and doing an interview, there's a little bit of smarts necessary. Yeah, you got to, you got to say something other than, I'm just here for the short term, baby. Without fail, every, like noodle boy. One guy actually said, What's the what is your discipline policy? What? Is he an S&M? I want to protect the identity, but there was you know, this is like what is your of course? The first thing you do is go look this person up, you know Did they have issues of not showing up or maybe they were on a sex offender list? And all of the above are true, but the Millennials who just they don't and here's a tip from your uncle Adam. I

2:27:29 Even if you're just doing it to get by don't say that. They don't get that. It's beyond them. And one of their heroes of course is Kristen Gillibrand, Kirsten Kristen. And this is my one of my favorite clips. I had to kind of play with it a little bit just so it's understandable. But this is her discussing nuclear armaments and she has a kind of a new thing I didn't even know this existed. When you say you want to develop low-yield nuclear weapons that are tactile, what you're saying is you want to use them. No.

CHAPTER 38 / 41 Discussion

Kirsten Gillibrand, Tactile Nuclear Weapons Gaffe

Senator Kirsten Gillibrand repeatedly referred to "tactile" nuclear weapons during a discussion on defense policy. The hosts point out that she likely meant "tactical" weapons, mocking her for the linguistic error while she argued against the development of low-yield armaments.

kirsten gillibrand· nuclear weapons· tactile· tactical· gaffe· defense bill

2:28:06 No, Miss Gillibrand. If it's tactile, that means you can feel it, ya doofus. Not believable. I just, they're trying to create nuclear weapons that are usable. So I oppose the entire defense bill because of that one provision. So if I am president, I am going to make sure we unwind that completely. And I don't think we should be trying to create tactile nuclear weapons. I like that she does it twice.

2:28:47 She said no on the defense bill because a tactile tactile nukes man. I gotta write this down How about haptic nukes add that to it? Tactile nukes what an idiot? She is she all does another idiot Nancy Pelosi. So here we are asserting Congress's long-established responsibility in the oversight of our use of military force, and also limiting Americans' engagement in this war, which has gone on far too long. I think we all agree. It's so sad. The President must sign this legislation. We're so proud of the bipartisan support, bicameral legislation that we will be sending him to advance a peaceful, enduring solution to a horrific humanitarian crisis.

2:29:38 Oops, I did it in the wrong place. I did it in the vice president's place. Well, he'll have to just turn an N into a... So she actually signs her name on this bill where the vice president's name should be and goes, oops, well, he can figure it out. And she was doing that thing where you write each letter with a different pen. Yeah, I find this for souvenirs. Yeah, this is really irksome and I want it stopped. As an American citizen, sign the document. Just sign it. Give that one pen away. Do whatever you want.

CHAPTER 39 / 41 Discussion

Nancy Pelosi Signing Ceremony, Trump Rotation Credit

Nancy Pelosi held a signing ceremony for a Yemen war resolution, using multiple pens for a single signature. Separately, the hosts express frustration that Professor Stephen Cohen credited Maggie Haberman for the "Trump Rotation" concept, which they claim to have originated years ago.

nancy pelosi· signing ceremony· trump rotation· molly hemingway· stephen cohen· media

2:30:15 You know, put it on eBay, donate it to charity. But this 20 pens just... She's like, okay, and half of the end, then she gets another pen. And then, yeah, you can even hear it. Throwing one down, picking up another one. Throwing it down, picking up another one. Throwing it down, picking up another one. I think Obama started that. I don't think so. I think that goes way before Obama. And then, this was one of my finals, Professor Steve Cohen showed up and gave Maggie Haberman credit for something I believe that we created, namely the Trump rotation.

2:31:02 I think we had... What? Yes. Well, this is appalling because we have one of our guys who wants to do some booking for some interviews and he got a hold of Steve Cohen and refuses to be interviewed. Really? Yeah. By us or just in general? Us. Or podcasters, I don't know. Really? Yeah. So, I think it was Molly Hemingway, the Federalist, who first pointed out that there's a cycle that the press goes through in their Trump hatred. That they first go into Russian collusion, and where are the Russians? And there was Boris Badenov, and there was Natasha, and Paul Manafort, and all these things.

2:31:38 You know, they had the Russian—and then that blows up, because it's all nonsense. It's all completely ridiculous. And when that's exposed, they go into racism. Oh, the racism. It was Donald Trump. This shooter in New Zealand referenced Donald Trump. The image of him that we created inspired him. But it's somehow Trump's fault. And Trump says some of the same words. He speaks English, and they speak English. It's incredible. The connections are just endless. Who could say—you know, I mean, he walks upright, and so do they. And then that falls apart and people start to kind of roll their eyes when all of that won't wash They go back to the routine that he's crazy. Well, I'm pretty sure I couldn't find this this article of hers or I'm just a little earth because Molly Hemingway is the one he decided what did I say? He said Hal Berman Oh Hemingway is she related I doubt it. I

2:32:33 So I think we came up with the Trump rotation. We have a website, trumprotation.com, and I'm a little disappointed now. This thing is two years old. We put it up right after Trump got inaugurated. I'm disappointed that we're big fans of Professor Cohen. Not only does he not give us credit, okay, it can happen, but then to refuse to be interviewed? Yeah, when he's being shunned by everybody anyway. Nobody wants him to be interviewed. No one wants to put him on the air because he has too many positive things to say about Russia. Yeah. Well, no. Okay. No way. No interview for you. All right. When you come crawling back to us and, please interview me. No one will talk to me. We're just going to go, sorry man. I don't think he's going to do that. No. God, I'm a douchebag. Yeah, no. I'm sorry, professor. No. Even if you say that, you're not getting back in. Not going to happen.

CHAPTER 40 / 41 Discussion

5G Rollout Opposition, Brussels and Moraga Bans

Brussels became the first major city to halt its 5G rollout due to health concerns regarding RF radiation. In the U.S., the town of Moraga is fighting the installation of small cell towers, though local governments face legal hurdles from the FCC that prevent them from citing safety as a reason for denial.

5g· brussels· moraga· rf radiation· fcc· fiber optics· china

2:33:23 Good news, Brussels is the first major city to halt the rollout of 5G. Yes. Very smart, Brussels. And it should tell you something. Yeah, that's where the EU is centered. And they don't want to irradiate or not, it's not really true irradiation, it's not gamma radiation, but they don't want to RF to death their own people. The same goes for the town of Moraga. Throughout all of 2019, we've been hearing tech companies and cell phone companies talking about all the excitement about 5G and the race to get there first. But tonight in Moraga, they're talking about the fight against it. Sitting at her home office, Ellie Marks has a device that measures her RF exposure. She's surrounded by campaign materials that she's used in a decade of pushing back against ever expanding cell phone towers.

2:34:16 For her, the fight is personal. Her husband started using a cell phone in 1986 and developed a brain tumor in 2008. Researchers do not agree right now about what constitutes safe RF exposure. The FCC and cell phone companies maintain radiation exposure from cell phones is not dangerous. Thankfully, her husband pulled through, but it was her wake-up call. Now she's taking on 5G. Parallel to this fight against 5G is the race to be the first country to have it. The US has been competing against China. Now all wireless companies claim they'll have 5G this year. Some have launched already. So what exactly is it? Possibly the way that the Internet runs will change because of this technology.

2:35:01 Dan Sher is an editor at large for CNET News who follows 5G. He says it could change everything from education to AI to health care. Editor at large, is that an important job? Because this guy sounds like a nincompoop. It's just a title for somebody. I don't know what to title it. It's all about speed. So the promise of 5G is that it's going to be significantly faster. So think of being able to download a movie within minutes. This example, which is always... Hold on a second. I'm all, I know what you're gonna say, I'm a hundred percent on your side on this. This is a horrible example. And it's always the first one. You'll be able to download a movie in two minutes! Bro, I click play on Netflix, it starts immediately. It's called streaming. Ever hear of it? CNET by the way, editor at large. The only way that you would download is illegally.

2:36:00 Thank you, add to that. Promoting illegal behavior and unlawful content. Way to go, C-Net! Is that it's going to be significantly faster so think of being able to download a movie Within minutes instead of waiting a long long time also for this editor-at-large to think that that's how the internet works I mean what yes if the movie is located at your ISP or one hop away Yeah, I might might download really really fast if it's sitting on my little server somewhere else it may not download very fast To maintain this speedy connection, cell phone companies claim they need additional cell towers in communities like Moraga. Ellie says she'd rather see these companies stick to fiber. There's a better way to do it and that would be fiber to the premises. We don't need these small, so-called small cells every few homes in our communities. Well forget that, it's happening. But I learned something in the second clip short

2:37:00 that the local municipalities such as Austin really have no power over this 5G rollout and it's a legal issue which I didn't understand until now. So many local governments will also say when it comes to this argument their hands are tied which makes them reluctant to take any kind of action. Regulating public safety surrounding cell phone towers is something that only the federal government and in some cases the state government can do. So local governments are left to do things when it comes to public right-of-way. But if they get in the way of the permitting process, they are at risk of being sued, which is something that happened in nearby Piedmont. So they are, understandably, being careful.

2:37:40 I didn't know that. Yes, we've actually did have talked about it. We did talk about it. The safety issues cannot be part of the reason for refusing to put these things up. It has to be aesthetic or there has to be some other crazy thing. You got to dream something up that's creative. Now, there's another little tidbit that I have run into, interestingly enough, China. China wants to roll out 5G and they want to go nuts about it. You're just learning this? No, I'm not. That's not what I learned. Okay. China's 5G is 2.6 gigahertz. Oh really? They're just rolling the protocol out over the existing... Well, the existing is 2.3 or what I don't know what the Wi-Fi is 2.3 I guess. But they're... Yes, they're not doing the millimeter wave 5G. No, because they don't want to kill their own citizens.

2:38:35 Yeah, so they're doing a 2.6k the whole thing the entire country is gonna be rolled out at that frequency If I and it's gonna be called 5g, but I don't know what this has not been discussed It's also that you can't get the bandwidth you're talking about if you're gonna do if you're gonna do that I don't think you can get the bandwidth you can get three what what is the max? Maybe 500 megabits per second Off of 2.6? 2. yeah 2.4 I think you can have multiple channels and maybe pick up a gigabit or maybe more. Okay, but not the 10 gigabits they're talking about. No, you do need a super high bandwidth if you're gonna just have one channel and you're gonna be pulling as much as you can off it, but this thing's got to go through the walls of your house, the windows are a problem if you're dealing with millimeter waves. But isn't it interesting that you got de-platformed from PC Magazine?

2:39:28 For questioning this and now again, it's just like the chemtrails. This is your chemtrails, John. 5G is your chemtrails. 5G, my friend, 5G. And that well... Hopefully I'll have some good stuff I can continue to bitch and moan. Now I'm just a target for me. Now you're all jitty with it. Jitty with it. Special end of show ditties we got here. We've got Sir Timothy and Sir Vix, Jesse Coy Nelson, and Felix Wilson. Felix Wilson with a special reading of a No Agenda children's book. Felix apparently is offspring of Sir Chris Wilson in Australia, as I code switched to it.

CHAPTER 41 / 41 Discussion

Outro, Felix Wilson Reading, We're All Gonna Die

The show concludes with a Brexit-themed parody song and a reading by young Felix Wilson titled "We're All Gonna Die." The poem deconstructs mainstream media fear-mongering and praises the No Agenda show for its advertiser-free, value-for-value model.

felix wilson· brexit song· media deconstruction· amygdala· gitmo· outro

2:40:16 Looking forward to seeing y'all on Sunday. Coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state, FEMA region number six on the governmental maps and the 5x9 Cluedio. In the morning everybody, I am Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Sunday with another episode. Please remember us and support the work at dvorak.org slash NA. Until then we say, yos mofos! And such If you want it, here it is, come and Brexit. Make your mind up, and any time you can take it. But you better hurry, cause it may not last. Did I hear you say that there must be a catch? Will you walk away from a fool and her forthright?

2:41:36 If you want it, here it is, come and practice But you better hurry, cause it's going fast You better hurry, cause it's going You better hurry, cause it's going fast You better hurry, cause it's going Someone's knocking at the door Our country is full Somebody's ringing the bell Our area's full Someone's knocking at the door The sector is full Somebody's ringing the bell Can't take you anymore, I'm sorry Do me a favor, open the door So turn around I'm sorry, can't happen, so turn around Ooh yeah

2:42:30 I've seen every conceivable way of smuggling drugs in the United States. One case where somebody had heroin hidden in false buttocks on their body that actually exploded and killed the person carrying those. The Secretary of Homeland Security, Kirstjen Nielsen, is leaving the Trump administration after submitting her resignation last night. The unexpected move follows the president's dismay over a surge in migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border. Now we want to clarify and correct something that happened earlier in the show. We had an inaccurate graphic on screen while talking about this very story. We just want to be clear, the funding is being cut off to the three Central American countries. We apologize for the error. It never should have happened.

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