Episode 1121 · Monday, 18 March 2019

Accelerationism

A deep dive into the Christchurch shooter's accelerationist manifesto, the suspicious timing of the Paris Climate Accord, and the corporate unionization of the podcast industry.

By The No Agenda Show | 3h 5m listen | 38 chapters
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About this episode

The Christchurch mosque massacre and the subsequent media blackout of the shooter's manifesto lead this analysis of global psychological operations. New Zealand authorities and major tech platforms coordinated to suppress the primary source material, which outlines a strategy of accelerationism designed to incite a domestic civil war over the Second Amendment. The document specifically cites the Great Replacement theory and historical figures like Sir Oswald Mosley to provoke balkanization in the West.

Intelligence analyst Paul Buchanan defines the attack as a watershed moment for the Five Eyes alliance while the media attempts to link the perpetrator’s rhetoric to Donald Trump. Beyond the tragedy, the landscape of 2020 politics shifts as Bill Weld launches a Republican primary challenge and Beto O'Rourke enters the race amidst scrutiny of his teenage writings for the Cult of the Dead Cow. Meanwhile, Boeing faces intense pressure over the MCAS system on the 737 MAX 8 as black boxes are sent to France for analysis by rival Airbus interests.

In a lighter turn, the show explores the psychological toll of a 14-hour Facebook outage on millennials and the bizarre training of child activists by Al Gore’s Climate Reality Project. The episode concludes with a knighting ceremony for Sir Spudmighty and a cautionary tale about the peppery taste of an accidental ant invasion during the broadcast. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak provide the deconstruction from Austin and Northern Silicon Valley.


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CHAPTER 01 / 38 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 1121, St. Patrick's Day Introduction

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open Episode 1121 of the No Agenda Show on Sunday, March 17, 2019. The hosts broadcast from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley, noting the coincidence of St. Patrick's Day with ongoing global protests and news events.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· st. patrick's day· austin· silicon valley· podcasting

00:00 We work hard to create some of the best audio in the world. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora It's Sunday March 17th 2019 This is your award-winning GiveOnation Media Assassination Episode 1121 This is no agenda Reading the manifesto so you don't have too and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in downtown Austin Tejas In The Cluedio In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where we all say Top of the in the morning. I'm Johnson The top of the in-the-morning, oh yes it's st.. Patrick's Day that's right almost forgot yeah Yeah has been such a nutty couple of days that You know we forgot children are out protesting We forgot St.. Patrick's day is just Everything is everything is up in the air hmm the children they're out protesting

CHAPTER 02 / 38 Discussion

Distracted Driving, Austin Rear-End Collision Anecdote

A host describes being rear-ended in Southeast Austin by a young driver who was allegedly distracted by Google Maps on her phone. The account details the immediate aftermath, including the arrival of Austin Police and Fire Department personnel who noted that such accidents occur daily due to smartphone use. The discussion touches on potential technological solutions, such as accelerometers to lock phones while driving, and the legal penalties for device use behind the wheel.

austin· distracted driving· google maps· millennial· car accident· smartphone addiction

01:00 Well, I'll start off with my news from yesterday. Your news? Yeah, minor news...I believe that we are starting to see a tipping point with the phone zombies. Go on! Okay, yesterday we went over to the house and you know were starting to move some stuff slowly bit by bit doing it ourselves saves cost on the movers and we're driving back and we're on, what is it, southeast Austin going towards north And we're in the left hand, now it's south by southwest so it was a little busier but also around 5 o'clock. I thought that was over by now? Yeah and today or tomorrow maybe is the last day. It's until the 18th yeah So people either left Thursday or they are leaving today Or tomorrow

01:51 Anyway, so it's a little bit busier certainly around five o'clock and we have some rush hour traffic anyway in traffic in Austin is pretty bad And it's uh you know four lanes two on each side I'm in the left-hand lane and I have to stop or right near the lake This is a car that's waiting to turn left Waiting for break in traffic to park by the lake and I'm with Tina and I'm with Elise and we're just chatting away and We get rear ended. So hard by a I would say she was probably about 20, 25, 26. A young millennial and you've been rear-ended. When someone really hits without... there were no break screeches she went full on into us. Probably doing about 40. Yeah because she was on her phone! Well exactly so first i check ourselves we're all okay I get out Her thing is totaled her head is down in the airbag and like holy crap this is not good

02:49 So I opened the door. She's still holding the phone? No, as I open the door and she's dazed...I mean she's seriously dazed but there are no lacerations or anything and you know that airbag is still smoking And uh..and the first thing she says is my brakes didn't work! And I see the phone between her legs on the ground with Google Maps open And that was, you know I just kept her calm and asked her to stay put and don't move until... Austin Police and Fire Department they're within three minutes so fast. So I didn't have any further contact with her which actually was kind of weird maybe come up afterwards and say hey sorry but no didn't get any of that. No she's not gonna do that by and she probably shouldn't What do you mean? It's an admission of guilt

03:36 Right. And so, you know me of course I'm talking to the firemen and the firewoman and I'm talking to the cops... Signing autographs. Signing autographs exactly! And yeah looking at their gear and how these reports are done which is pretty cool it's automated they just scan your registration sticker and they got all your details right there on that's for the front of the car with a barcode like everything And I and it's like going to a car rental place. Yeah, exactly exactly like that And you know so the you know i'm talking as he guy says yeah distracted driver. I said yeah So is she okay? Yeah She's just a little shaken up she's coming out of his saying her break didn't work and I look at him He says yeah, I gotta put it down because that's what she said but this happens every day now It almost happened to me this morning

04:25 He says, you know someone I was in the right-hand lane so the person behind me could swerve off into the grass. This is happening every day and And it makes sense You have these slower speed, you know 35 average probably mile an hour rear endings because all you need to do is look down for a Second and a half and you've traveled right into someone's tailgate. I think we're gonna see a lot more of this Well, we wouldn't see a lot more of it if the phone companies were more responsible. I'm talking about the handset makers they could fix their phones so this is not even possible Do i not even possible to use a little accelerometer in there? If that's moving faster than 10 miles an hour Yeah How do you think that would go over with the public do you think the public would accept that I don't think so I wouldn't accept It don't tell me what to do. I'm not your slave

05:15 That's what they should do, but then let the law come into play. Why don't our legislators... legislative people? Why don't we let them finally do something about this plague and pass a law that the phone companies have to do that?" Well I will say in Austin we have very strict laws for- We have them in California too it doesn't help I'm just saying that here they every morning because Tina drives you know to work every morning and They'll be waiting. You know one is waiting on his bike kind of you know looking Now look in his knees or something, and then he signals ahead up this one was on their phone. I think it's Three or five hundred dollars now for just four just for holding or touching your phone while driving well good? I don't think it deters anyone but

06:07 Anyway, I don't think it does either because you just do it underneath the unity can see everything anyway My my tailgate is that she had hers between her legs. Yeah? Yeah She was holding on to it wound up on the floor and I could see Google Maps like okay. I got it anyway I'm glad everyone's unhurt for a rude awakening yeah, I Could just I mean no squeal of brakes man nothing straight in Yeah, crazy. Crazy as you guys weren't hurt now I used to work with a guy who was an insurance guy for insurance companies and he kind of made most of his money on off doing these little insurance scams

06:47 including, he says one of the best bits you can do is you drive around Lake Merritt. This would be for cell phones nowadays, you could do this much easier. You'd drive around Lake Merritt until you saw somebody right behind ya doing her lipstick that you slam on your brakes and let it rear end ya and is always good for a good amount of money but he says if you get rear ended like you just did his advice was to just lay there And wait for it and say I need an ambulance. Oh sure he says good for a quarter of a million Yeah, you know for a moment there You consider that just thinking like and they kept asking me are you sure? You're okay? I'm sure it's good now. Are you sure you're okay one okay? Everyone's fine Um and if we didn't have headrests yeah that we would not have been fined at all That's what the headrests are forced so you'll break your neck

07:41 Because that would have been bad. But, eh... I guess you know what? My exit strategy came and went didn't even see it! Damnit. Well it'll happen again from the sounds of your prediction Yeah exactly you can just wait for it just uh You can probably even like draw a foul in basketball you can probably oh Just think I'll slow down here and stop for a second maybe 100 yards past the stoplight see what happens Anyway Well, that's a little more exciting than anything I did today. Well yesterday? I guess today I just started. I mean I've just been deep down there so much interesting stuff to talk about. Since you started with the millennial douchebag rear-ending you... I might as well play this that Facebook went down we didn't talk really too much about it but apparently was discussed to excess

CHAPTER 03 / 38 Discussion

Facebook Outage, NPR Millennial Coverage Criticism

The hosts critique an NPR segment from the show "It's Been a Minute" regarding a recent 14-hour Facebook and Instagram outage. They mock the millennial reporters' use of "vocal fry" and their emotional distress over missing "likes" on staged photos. The conversation explores the psychological impact of social media addiction and the linguistic shift in public broadcasting.

facebook· instagram· npr· vocal fry· millennials· social media addiction

08:38 to access on NPR. Oh! On one of the fine NPR, I think the name of it's It's Been a Minute is the name of the show and it is uh... it's a millennial show and you're going to hear uh... the millennials discussing the great details they are gonna get a lot of details in the final really deep information Well, this is the bonus clip. I was wondering what these bonus clips were Sally your last what are your three words? well Julia speaking of infinite and endless ways of interacting with the news my three words are hashtag Facebook down Well as you may know earlier this week Facebook went down for I think about

09:26 14 hours and also the quote-unquote Facebook family of apps as they call it. Cute way of talking about all the internet that they own which is Instagram, Whatsapp, Tinder so people are having... Was Tinder down? I have no idea if Tinder was down. I thought you might know! A lot of trouble accessing Facebook and Instagram, posting and interacting with it... And i think that affected people in multiple countries. Right? It made so that I couldn't compulsively refresh Facebook for no reason. Oh wow! Freedom! Yeah, I know you would think that But it was actually...

10:15 been common coded on my like there's something evolutionarily happening I Instinctually, I'll have Facebook open and I'll be like I should open Facebook and it's like it's already there but now It's built in Wow So there was pandemonium And I think you know it affected people In real ways like who rely on for example whatsapp to communicate with people internationally right? But I think For me and most of the people I was talking to, it affects us just in that. Like for example... I posted something on Instagram that morning and I was really hoping to get some likes. I staged a really nice photo. Oh! I'm so sorry. Thank you. Oh, I'm so sorry oh yes we've all been there haven't we? You're understanding. Holy crap

11:02 Bonus clip indeed. Is this the future of NPR? Are these reporters in space? This is the millennials talking like, like, I like, and there's a lot of that going on with all vocal fry and there's some guy who's just giggling at everything she says very girly-like You know, he's- But John come on! We've all been there when you style your picture. You wanted some likes and you couldn't get it I mean it's a real... It's a bad day man. That's a day wrecker come on Well, let's let her continue. Thank you for understanding I recently put my phone to grayscale to try and not use it as much which basically means that it looks like a black-and-white TV or whatever You know what happened? I still use all of the apps. I just have no pleasure in using them. I'm just not happy about it But I'm using them basically just as much as I was when it was color It's really...I feel defeated honestly

12:04 The thing about this particular Facebook outage is that I noticed recently that when i brought it up to people, more people than usual when there's some sort of outage in an app we use all the time. More people are like oh I didn't notice because for example your phone is in greyscale or my wife took Facebook off her phone and as a result is using it like 95% less so she didn't know about it And I feel like that was the other thing half of us were experiencing total panic because we couldn't access our social media but then half of people were floating with equanimity on a cloud being like I didn't even notice that because i deleted that up it's funny because i kind of been reconnecting with an old friend who a few years ago was like man, you gotta get online with the rest of us so we know what's happening in your life. He was like well you know i'm sorry i'm just not the kind of person who does that i don't-i'm not on facebook but i think he made the right choice yeah honestly

12:55 We've come around now that there's a point where that was like the pretentious choice and now it's actually the most honorable admirable Well, this is very disturbing To hear? I thought you'd think so. Very disturbing! This is NPR, people! Can-I'll give you a borderline because it's NPR. Borderline! That's for the combo of the two but really like... You can't honor this kind of stuff that's really bad that's that's like really bad man like you know it's like like like like like honestly right honestly like right

13:41 What are they teaching these children? That's what got me besides the vocal fry She actually switched into a normal voice when she was imitating some I don't know who she was imitating old person logo Friday. Oh sounded normal for a very short time now, I do have an ISO that I pull Dave Drew's found this clip and sent it to me Yeah, that's when you don't get any likes. That's like we don't get any likes like it right? Honestly sure. That's NPR people now that is there you go this is where speeches going show and I think a lot of the stuff going on in PR nowadays is very much like why does MSNBC still have Al Sharpton

14:34 Yeah, the problem with this clip is I am now going to start obsessing over the use of the word like which you just used Like yeah. It's like it's like we can catch each other okay? Well that'll be an eight-hour show If you look at the word cloud for eating and we have them in a transcript at natranscripts.online I believe it is and if you look at the word cloud like is the biggest word It's always a like We've already been infected by these people we have, we have Shall we discuss the New Zealand mosque massacre?

CHAPTER 04 / 38 Discussion

Christchurch Mosque Massacre, Media Reporting Restrictions

The discussion turns to the mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand. The hosts observe a coordinated media effort to suppress the shooter's name and manifesto, noting that New Zealand authorities and figures like Ben Shapiro advised against sharing the video or document. They argue that suppressing the primary source material prevents the public from understanding the perpetrator's motivations.

christchurch· new zealand· brenton tarrant· media censorship· ben shapiro· manifesto

15:17 Well, I have a bunch of clips so i guess we must. Yes before we jump into clips and I knew you would have clips and I'm pretty sure you knew I would be looking at the manifesto yes I actually assured myself that a couple things I caught them the shootings as well not as they were occurring because never saw this dream but I did catch it in night of it cause I was watching popcorn And then I switched to CBSN and they had a feed from TV3. So, I went to the computer and started recording it. TV3 is an Australian local channel... They didn't even play CBSN that was just the feed from Australia so I managed to get a few kind of interesting clips. I don't think any of them were that great but... A couple of observations as this started

16:13 The first memes we saw, and with memes I mean stuff that really went viral was it...I think it was even a graphic that showed the four steps you have to take when the tragedy happens. You know don't immediately start reporting. It was almost something that would have been handed out to journalists. You know the first information is not always correct. Better to report correctly than fast and this propagated very quickly The next thing I saw was, and typically when even if the person is known only through a social media account they'll say alright the guy's name was Brenton Tarrant. Typically they'll have his middle name in there Brenton hmm-hmm Tarrant which i think this guy has it's like Hugh or something whatever it is but they didn't It was continuously...the alleged shooter identifies as Brenton Tarrant on social media

17:11 It was something different. I'm not saying there's anything nefarious to it, but I thought that was interesting that the media reported that differently and then came the part that bugged me the most as I had already received a full video copy offline video copy of the streaming video And multiple copies of said manifesto The Great Replacement Everyone was saying Don't share the document. Don't read the document! Don't share his name, don't share that manifesto, don't read it, don't share it, don't read... And like that is so... You know how that bugs me? Well a couple of things and I'll just say why- It began in Australia and New Zealand because their reporters were saying the same thing. Well Shapiro- They would do their report and by the way the New Zealand accent is so... Yeah. ...it's terrible.

18:08 It is really a bad accent. It's very hard to hear what they're saying, but they make it big point They do that all this reporting then I say and we advise you to not do this not do that Advise you not to pass information around right? But Ben Shapiro was number one on this use links to the video Oh yeah another thing don't use links to the video but Shapiro was doing this in And I don't care what you say, if someone kills people like Ted Kaczynski it's worth a read. What was he thinking? And to me and that is where i'll come in... You have clips and I may add some color That to me is the gross

CHAPTER 05 / 38 Discussion

Christchurch Eyewitness Report, TV3 New Zealand Coverage

An eyewitness report from New Zealand's TV3 describes a man in tactical gear discharging a rifle near a motel before the mosque attacks. The witness notes the shooter appeared to be a "European guy" and was targeting Muslims specifically. The hosts also mention the presence of intelligence experts on New Zealand television, noting the country's role in the Five Eyes intelligence alliance.

christchurch· tv3· eyewitness· tactical gear· mosque shooting· five eyes

18:48 atrocity, the second atrocity taking place. We had the killings as the first and then this literal M5M information bomb intended to get a specific response it's written in the manifesto and everyone is doing it so let's get into what you've got and then we'll circle around to that okay these are all under I think of the massacre subcategory yeah There's a good one. This is one of those early reports about somebody was actually there and watching it this is the massacre man on the street report from TV3 You said there were some Muslims? There were two cars parked here with Muslims in them, they were just chatting away They didn't seem to be upset They certainly were five minutes ten minutes later because I come back so I'm thinking that this guy

19:41 This was prior to the mosque shooting because I knew nothing about that. Yeah, do you think he was maybe shooting people in this area before he went down to the mosque or shooting at people? Well, well...I didn't see anybody that he shot but he certainly discharged his rifle twice that way. I don't know what he was shooting it whether he was shooting Muslims and cars because That car had another, had another car with it. And viewers can't see but there's a car just beyond us here outside of the cordon actually that has been shot out. Has moved? It may be that police are not aware that he was shooting this far down here I don't think they're aware that that car even exists but certainly the motel guy will because he shot straight in there and were you able...I mean we're pretty close here this is where..you know how many meters are we talking at your away from this guy

20:25 the width of the road. So three and a half there, four metres five metres. Four metres so you could see into his eyes? Oh yeah he was European guy thick set I told the police this it was hard to pick his age because he had complete covered like the outside of his face like a SWAT guy And a bit of reflection on the window, but yeah he was definitely European or six-set build. And that's why I thought he was...I thought he was a tactical, you know, slot guy." And looking back now, you didn't know at the time but he has clearly been targeting Muslims He's killed 30 of them just down the road here

21:02 Do you think that he didn't want to kill you? Because obviously, he had an opportunity to kill you. This is a man who's killed 30 people that you've come face-to-face with. Well obviously if I walked out here and looked like a Muslim... ...and with my head down up or whatever, he probably would have shot me but I mean look like a Kiwi bloke or an Aussie bloke. I meant him no harm because I didn't understand what was going on But had he pointed a gun at me, I brought up Hightower that trust me can look you who he is. A gun's a gun but... He was reloading? We're sitting here having the conversation right now and you've just looked a man in the eye out on your front doorstep who has killed 30 people in New Zealand in a terrorist attack Ross

21:39 I didn't like to say, I didn't know that at the time. We're not used to this sort of stuff in Christchurch let alone New Zealand and it takes you by surprise Yeah that's not very intelligible for many I can barely understand half of what he said He keeps saying sexy body but he is not, he is saying something else And I want to point out just before we delve into it, we're just going straight into deconstruction. So we're not gonna waste your time with which is yeah of course this horrible as sucks everyone gets it and whatever we discuss not necessarily our opinion but we just have to go through whatever we see what we have Yeah when a yeah It was terrible and it seemed him and I will say this the reporters that were on the scene

22:27 I've never seen this one guy in particular was just about to cry and he was shaky for, he was doing a standup. And it was like there was you know it was horrible situation. One there is an intelligence guy named Paul Buchanan who moved to New Zealand from the United States and he worked for that one of the agencies we don't know which And he came on the show. Well, New Zealand is a part of Five Eyes you know so there's Spooks there they're spooks there yeah He may be this spook working there now But he was on the set and he was pontificating like it expect Americans to do mm-hmm and I do have three clips from this guy and They're pretty short

CHAPTER 06 / 38 Discussion

Terrorism Definition, Paul Buchanan Analysis

Intelligence analyst Paul Buchanan discusses the Christchurch attack on TV3, labeling it a "watershed moment" comparable to 9/11 for New Zealand. He argues the act must be defined as terrorism because it was a premeditated political act intended to intimidate the Muslim community. The hosts debate whether the "terrorism" label is being shoehorned for political reasons versus treating it as the act of a lone individual.

paul buchanan· terrorism· islamophobia· 9/11· political violence· new zealand

23:18 But let's play Massacre Paul Buchanan on TV3. The vitriol, the hatred and in this particular instance the Islamophobia that comes through in these blogs and they're not censored they're not even monitored as far as I can tell them they are allowed to get away with it And then you get that PAC mentality going On the fringes of the PAC are people like this Now, the fact that he has semi-automatic... Oops. They're talking about 8chan and that kind of stuff? Is that...? So they're talking about this fringe...? I don't know. He's talking in general about the unmonitored blogging. Oh! Okay. There is three...I'm going to tell you that...in advance of this, I am gonna tell you there are three themes that we are gonna...that i'm gonna have some clips at back up One, they seem to be emphasizing those nut balls online and it should be stopped

24:08 The other one is that this was terrorism instead of an act of insanity. It was terrorism and it needs to be defined as such, so that came up over and over again but there was a lot less about the guns gun control because they already have pretty unbelievable gun control which is ironic Anyway, there was the getting away with blogging without a license is the way I'm looking at it. And then the last one was that this was very comparable to 9-11.

24:52 So, anyway this guy... Let's skip the rest of that one and go to Buchanan 2. Paul Buchanon is our guest at the moment on a special edition of The Project as we try and piece together what happened today and what the future looks like. Paul how about that issue that Kahnor raised? Why isn't the T word being used, the terrorism words? Well it's absolutely an act of terrorism and anyone who would say otherwise clearly doesn't know what they're talking about This was done to intimidate the Muslim community. In fact, again I'll go back to this guy's manifesto he says... He wrote this prior to committing this act so he outlines why he is doing it. He says that he is going to get foreign invaders out. He is gonna put fear into their hearts. He is gonna avenge all of European deaths at the hands of Muslims. This was a political act

25:43 a political act of violence. There is no way you cannot say it was terrorism, and if you say oh he was mentally ill and that well one might argue that every act of terrorism is an act of madness but the point here it was very political in nature so by any definition narrow or broad this was a terrorist act again its watershed moment in our history Because it dwarfs anything that has happened to New Zealand in the past. You said New Zealand is now infected well, we're infected with this virus of confrontational to the point of homicidal Hmm I like that all right do you think this was not a terrorist attack?

CHAPTER 07 / 38 Discussion

The Great Replacement, Manifesto Deconstruction

The hosts analyze the shooter's manifesto, titled "The Great Replacement," which utilizes an "Ask Me Anything" format. They debate the legal definition of terrorism under U.S. Code Title 22, questioning if the shooter qualifies as a "clandestine agent" or member of a "subnational group." The document identifies the shooter as an "eco-fascist" and mocks various political ideologies while claiming the attack was a partisan action against an "occupying force."

the great replacement· manifesto· eco-fascist· clandestine agents· white nationalism· 8chan

26:30 I have, yeah. I don't think it was a terrorist attack." I want to read from his manifesto which surprised me that the journalist cites the document and by the way there's a big difference between a manifesto like Ted Kaczynski and this but i have other things to say about it. About 1 third of this document is reads like an Ask Me Anything on Reddit After it's done. So you have the question and then the answer or you could say it looks like an interview so he Questions are asked on a highlighted in bold question Do you consider this a terrorist attack his answer by the definition? Then yes, it is a terrorist attack But I believe it as a partisan action against an occupying force Just interesting that the journalists there didn't mention what he put his actual words were

27:27 Yeah, that manifesto is really a dog. All right let's go to... I'm sorry what do you mean by it? What do you mean by a dog? Well there's a lot of cut and paste in there that other people have pointed out Okay we'll talk about in a minute You do your clips because I'm gonna have to disagree But lets get through this You don't think there was any cut and paste in their? Every document is cut and paste No no but he was the doctor It's not like The Compendium of Anders Breivik That was cut and paste This is written... Massacre Paul 3. This is the other one.

28:13 What happened as of two o'clock in the afternoon? The only thing that I can compare it to is 9-11. Oh, yeah not in scale of destruction but in scale of what how its spreading and being reported and hopefully changing or with hopes of changing minds and thinking Yeah, I think I think it is equal to that on a media level but not not anywhere near destruction And then we have the continuation, this is actually a clip before his comments about terrorism. But here's Massacre TV 3 terrorism Also a sentiment that has been expressed by many in the Muslim community Why are we not calling this an act of terror? So we will return to you very soon That again why are we not calling it an act of terrorism I think its easy to do that Why is this important

29:09 Because it sets... Gosh, it's a whole different ballgame when its terrorism versus domestic violence or mentally ill. I think you can go after a group of people with similar ideology. Well yeah, I think you can maybe. I think they're shoehorning this in there Here is the way that I've been looking at This guy was nuts And he has all the elements of a guy who's nuts. And he does this, apparently a Reddit guy and this is like part of some new thing there you know people are doing called shitposting. Well that's not exactly... Go to the NoAgenda reddit! That's what they call themselves shit posters yeah. It was because they are but did this whole thing it's almost like real larping with purpose

30:09 I'd say for HN is a part of that. Yeah, I would think that terrorism is to me terrorism is a scheme And it's not a, you know... You could say anything is terrorism if you, you know. You could lift up somebody skirt walking down the street and then scream at someone and that's kind of terror. If everything could be terrorism if you're gonna loosen the definition so to an extreme but did the insistence that its terrorism to me- It has a reason for it? Looks as if there's a reason for being why are we why do we have to call this terrorism Why can't we call one

30:44 nutball. Why didn't we call some of the school shootings terrorism? Was it terrorism per se or was it just a lone screwball, the guy who walked into the Aurora Theater and shot it up is that terrorism? We could call it terrorism if you were insisting on it but is it terrorism and I think does Resistance that they call it terrorism. There's something behind it well Let's look at this has nothing to do in New Zealand, but we can look at title 22 chapter 38 of the United States Code as Terrorism is defined as premeditated politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents Okay, so those last two words that? subnational groups are clandestine agents

31:35 Yeah, that negate this being terrorism. This guy's not a clandestine agent of anybody and he's not some... unless you're calling him an agent of Australia He's calling himself... He can call himself whatever he wants Would you say he's a member of a subnational group? No Of white nationalists? No That's not a subnational group Name the group White nationalist That is not a group. That's just the definition, that's a vagary. It doesn't... it's not a group So if they had a name like Proud Boys Not that they are but I'm just throwing something out there? That is a named group then then it could be a subnational group? I think its closer Okay alright yeah I'm just saying my way of looking at this They're trying to shoehorn this terrorism idea He did call himself an eco-fascist consistently, consistently Yeah

32:34 Why? Well, why is a different question. The guy is like he's screwed this guy is insane. Yeah I don't think this guy... He's mocking everything including his own manifesto it's just like a No, it's a nonsense document. I have a different terrorism thing is a nonsense. Okay? They're trying to make it into a terrorist thing. It can understand the Muslims thinking that we should do that because you're always blaming us as a group. You always blame Muslims as a group of being a bunch of terrorists if your walk around with

CHAPTER 08 / 38 Discussion

Anders Breivik Comparison, European Immigration Tensions

The Christchurch manifesto is compared to the writings of Anders Breivik, the 2011 Norway attacker. The discussion explores the underlying sentiment among some white Europeans regarding mass immigration and falling birth rates, citing historical figures like Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn. The hosts examine the "Great Replacement" theory as a driver for radicalization in Europe and France.

anders breivik· norway· pim fortuyn· netherlands· immigration· demographic shift

33:11 hajib on or anything, or a hat. You're a terrorist Muslim and so I can see why they're trying to make it look like well no you guys are the worst terrorists than we are. I think is nonsense. I think the whole thing was an insane incident by some screwball and that's as far as I can take it. Okay, So I read the document multiple times marked it up and put in the show notes as I usually do. I agree with you, I don't think this is necessarily This guy is the least interesting part of the story to me. The document is interesting to me, and it's not just a cut-and-paste job." And I really read through this and I really scoured it, and immediately it reminded me of the Breivik—Anders Breivik who murdered... what was it? Like 80 people in

34:02 Norway? I saw it long ago and now i've forgotten. I don't think there was that many but there was a lot! Maybe it was 60... They were on an island they couldn't get off! Yeah, but who they were was important because Breivik's compendium which is a definition of a cut-and-paste job His compendium specifically stated that he wanted to stop the next generation of left-wing, and he may have even said socialist politicians. And these were young kids of whatever the political party was who were on a retreat and he wanted to stop them so that he would therefore stop the immigration of brown people into his white country

34:45 And all of the stuff that he brought up there with stopping the Ottoman Empire, was it 1683 in Vienna? The Crusades. All of this was about the Ottoman Empire invading us and how could our politicians sell us out—I'm speaking on his behalf—how could our politicians sell us out to allow the Ottoman Empire to still come in and invade our country which is always described as white supremacist, which I don't think Breivik was. White nationalist? Yes and it's the same for this guy now it has a beginning in middle and an end this document he starts with you know with some scribe which is not that important but his introduction

35:35 It's the birthrights and he says that over and over again. If there is one thing I want you to remember from these writings, it is that the birthrates must change even if we were to deport all non-Europeans from our lands tomorrow The European people would still be spiraling into decay and eventual death And we know this a general theme The reason why I find this interesting for me personally to dive into Is when I moved back to the Netherlands at the end of 1999 It was a different country and the problem that people were talking about was Muslim immigrants, and specifically at the time Moroccans. And there was Pim Fortuyn he was the politician who was saying we have to stop Islamification We have to stop... He may have used the invader term I don't remember that specifically but he was on on the path to win

36:26 the Dutch elections, political elections with his party. He would become the prime minister His party won posthumously but two weeks before he was assassinated So I saw this and I saw that you know people like Taxi Eric now He's not a guy who is going to go grab a gun and go kill Muslims But there is definitely a feeling amongst white Europeans That they're being invaded And I'm just using that term loosely so it's not a made-up problem Mass immigration and higher fertility rates of the immigrants themselves are causing this increase in the population. We are experiencing an invasion on a level never seen before in history, millions of people pouring across our borders legally invited by the state and corporate entities to replace the white people who have failed to reproduce failed to create the cheap labor and new consumers consumers and tax base that the corporations and states need to thrive." The title of his document again is

37:24 the Great Replacement and that's on Wikipedia as a conspiracy theory of course. The Great Replacement, Le Grande Replacement en français is a right-wing conspiracy theory of course which states that the... this is Wikipedia so take the right wing with whatever grain of salt you want which states at the white Catholic French population in the white Christian European population at large being systematically replaced with non-European people And he goes into the story of his travels and how we traveled around France, and how he saw that this indeed was taken. Now, we don't see this because it's you know We'll see something going on in Paris, and you will hear something, and we hear about no-go zones But I think you will agree with me that there is a huge Muslim population throughout all of France

38:18 They have huge, they have large pockets like in La Defense. Lyon is all over! And Lyon yes there's a big pocket there and it's interesting because the French kind of... Meanwhile of course the French are having these riots now that are gone completely out of control nobody wants to report on that. Well you can't switch topics on me like that No, there may be some connection. So he says well he traveled and he actually explains how he came to this conclusion but he says we must crush immigration and deport those invaders already living on our soil it is not just a matter of our prosperity but the very survival of our people And then he goes into this ask me anything where it's under the heading answering possible questions in general who are you

CHAPTER 09 / 38 Discussion

Trump Inspiration Claims, Media Narrative Critique

The hosts examine the shooter's specific mentions of Donald Trump, noting the manifesto views him as a "symbol of renewed white identity" but rejects him as a policy leader. They criticize mainstream media for stripping context to blame Trump's rhetoric for the attack. The shooter also cites the 2017 Stockholm terror attack and the death of Ebba Akerlund as primary radicalizing events.

donald trump· ebba akerlund· stockholm· m5m· political rhetoric· radicalization

39:09 Ordinary white man, 28 years old. Born in Australia into a working class low-income family My parents are of Scottish Irish and English stock I had regular childhood without any grade issues I had little interest in education during my schooling barely achieving a passing grade which was the big red flag for me because this document is not just by some moron who barely achieved the passing grade there's a lot of memes in here and things that are meant to go viral which were even explained in it More recently I've been working part-time as a kebab removalist. They're very funny, I'm just a regular white man from a regular family who decided to take a stand to ensure our future for my family and then there are five steps that he hopes to achieve and the first one He says I want to take revenge for the thousands of European lives lost to terror attacks throughout Europe even says actually And we don't it's difficult for us older guys to understand but he says

40:08 I was traveling as a tourist in Western Europe, France Spain and Portugal and others. The first event that begun to change for him when he changed his thinking about invaders he says was the terror attack in Stockholm on the 7th of April 2017 it was yet another terror attack in the seemingly never-ending attacks that had occurred on a regular basis throughout my adult life we forget that, you know the first terror attacks 2001 the guy wasn't even 10 years old and then he's just seen one after another after another after another. I look at Bataclan, look at Charlie Hebdo it's not like this doesn't affect young people this guy is relatively young You know, you and i have children in his age bracket so when he says I've grown up seeing this I decide to take a stand I'm not saying its great but I get it

40:59 Something that hasn't been a part of my life for as long as I can remember, cynicism in the face of attacks by Islamic invaders was suddenly no longer there. I could no longer bring the sneer to my face it could no longer turn my back on violence something this time was different That difference was Abba Akerlund and she's one of the sisters who is mowed down by the stolen van on the shopping promenade So he has a lot of reasoning behind...I'm just skipping around..a lot of reasoning behind why he is doing this so here's what he wants to happen First, I'm doing this to take revenge for the thousands of European lives lost to terror attacks throughout European lands. To take revenge for Eba Akerlund and directly reduce immigration rates to European lands by intimidating and physically removing the invaders themselves." So he's saying it right there—I want to intimidate which i think is terrorism. Intimidation is not terrorism! Okay that was fine... It doesn't matter to me. Doesn't

41:58 to agitate the political enemies of my people into action, to cause them to overextend their own hand and experience the eventual and inevitable backlash as a result. I think that step one has already taken place And it's actually witnessed here in this montage They immediately are overstepping the media, immediately overstepping their bounds and blaming it on Trump And just so we're very clear what he said about Trump, it was in this question and answer section. It's all about the context and there is if you look at the couple questions before...

42:45 Are you a homophobe? No, I simply do not call to care. I simply do not care at all that much what gay people do as long as they are loyal to their people and place their peoples first then i have no issues. Are you right wing depending on the definition sure are you left-wing depending on the definition sure are you a socialist depending on the definition worker ownership of the means of production depends on who those workers are Are you a supporter of Donald Trump? As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose, question mark. Sure! As a policy maker and leader dear God no Are you a supporter of Brexit? So it's in the list of questions. It's not exactly the way it is being portrayed as, oh he mentioned Trump! Yeah symbol of renewed white identity You ask for God to change people hearts I have question for ya does god need to change peoples language President Trump whether intentionally or I think in lot cases even inadvertently has provided a lot fodder for people like this Words do have consequences and we know that

43:49 at the very pinnacle of power in our own country. You mean the president talking about it? I know it's hard to even call this out, I've heard this from a guest this morning. This shooter according to these reports specifically invoked our President as an inspiration. Far-right attackers have claimed to be Trump supporters in recent months. And there's an intolerance that is being spread in this country, in this world and it comes from the political dialogue let's be clear, it comes from political leaders Words have consequences like saying we have an invasion of our border

44:25 The language he uses in this manifesto is all about invaders. It's also language that President Trump used in a campaign ad before the midterm election. Why they're seeing inspiration from our own president, John? You have a president who when he was a candidate talked about banning Muslims from entering this country So this is a president who has given plenty of rhetorical ammunition I think to terrorists like this We need to be mindful in our own rhetoric and in our own actions, how we're pushing it. Maybe we need to hear a little less from the president when in terms of his rather incendiary inflammatory rhetoric on racial or ethnic matters I know earlier the president tweeted out a message of sympathy to the victims but the President of United States needs just needs to go further So disgustingly the M5M took this and made into a screw trump It's all his fault

45:22 The worst line in there was he said, I think it was Brzezinski who said this that the shooter said Trump was his inspiration. Yes! Oh yeah but i heard a lot of these types... There's absolutely zero evidence of that. No, zero and but when people would read the portion of you know the two lines about Trump they would always omit you know the context of it And it also meant the second part. Yes, the whole second part! No, the guy's a disaster.

CHAPTER 10 / 38 Discussion

Accelerationism, Second Amendment Civil War Strategy

The manifesto outlines a strategy of "accelerationism," aiming to incite a civil war in the United States over firearm ownership to cause balkanization. The shooter expresses hope that the conflict will destroy "nihilistic hedonistic individualistic insanity" in the West. He also makes a controversial comparison between his potential imprisonment and that of Nelson Mandela, predicting he will eventually receive a Nobel Peace Prize.

accelerationism· second amendment· balkanization· civil war· knights templar· nelson mandela

46:01 So the guy's talking, this shooter is talking about these three steps. The first one is you know make everyone go crazy and overextend Step two to incite violence retaliation and further divide between the European people and the invaders currently occupying European soil Yeah I think that's going to work again And he doubles down on to agitate the political enemies of my people into action To overextend their own hand and experience the eventual backlash And then step three, I believe this may already have happened. He's very specific about this to add momentum to the pendulum swings of history further destabilizing and polarizing Western society in order to eventually destroy the current nihilistic hedonistic individualistic insanity that is taking control of Western thought This is not some dumb line as someone wrote John. This is...I don't know if he wrote it

46:56 Don't know I thought he wrote half of that but don't step go and I'm not gonna argue about your deconstruction. Yeah, step four Finally, to create conflict between the two ideologies within the United States on the ownership of firearms in order to further the social cultural political and racial divide within the United States. This conflict over the Second Amendment and the attempted removal of firearms rights will ultimately result in civil war that will eventually balkanize the US along political cultural and most importantly racial lines And he feels this is good because the balkanization of the US will not only result in the racial separation of people within the United States, ensuring the future of white race on a North American continent but also ensuring the death of melting pot pipe dream.

47:46 US involvement in Kosovo shall never occur again where u.s.. NATO forces fought side by side with Muslims and slaughtered Christian Europeans Attempting to remove these Islamic occupiers from Europe neither you I wasn't really there when this happened in the 90s Neither you or I can understand how people feel about that, but clearly someone feels something about it What do you ultimately want he asks and is ask me anything we want We must ensure the existence of our people and a future for white children There's no supremacy like and people are less or whatever. He just calls them invaders I would go down Let me see if there's anything else interesting why won't anyone do anything? Are you part of any political groups? I'm not a direct member

48:36 of any organization or group, though I have donated to many nationalist groups and have interacted with many more. Did the groups you support or aligned with order or promote your attack? No, no group ordered my attack. I made the decision myself though I did contact the reborn Knights Templar for a blessing in support of the attack which was given." And i believe that is Anders Breivik Guy did you carry out the attack for fame? These are all really good things that the media could report on and maybe should be looked at in schools I don't know. Did you carry out the attack for fame no Carrying out an attack for fame would be laughable after all who can remember the name of the attackers in this September 11th Attack in New York How about the attack on the Pentagon the attackers in the plane that crashed into the field the same day? I will be forgotten quickly It's got a point there

CHAPTER 11 / 38 Discussion

Christchurch History, Sir Oswald Mosley Influence

A producer's note provides historical context on Christchurch as a long-standing hub for white supremacy and skinhead groups in New Zealand. The shooter's manifesto expresses admiration for Sir Oswald Mosley and identifies the People's Republic of China as the nation closest to his political values. The hosts question the authenticity of the document, suggesting it may be a "mind bomb" designed for viral research.

christchurch· skinheads· white supremacy· sir oswald mosley· china· eco-fascism

49:26 Why did you choose Christchurch and this time? The best time to attack was yesterday, the next best time is today. Great these little nuggets he throws in there by the way we got a note from... We have a lot of producers and some knights in New Zealand here's a note from producer Tristan. New Zealand is pretty tolerant pretty tolerant place but has always had an undercurrent of racial tension. It's a colony and it is the one binding fact of all post-colonial countries, they are built on racial inequality. It is inherent in the modern fabric of the country due to its foundation

50:03 See the film Once We're Warriors for New Zealand and see the film The Chant of Jimmy Blacksmith for Australia. The thing with New Zealand is that it always perceives itself as better than Australia with regards to race relations, but perception is just that I didn't grow up in New Zealand but in Australia so I have an outsider's view of New Zealand Historically, Christchurch has always been a hotbed of white supremacy in New Zealand with skinhead gangs and hate groups. It's New Zealand's ground zero for that type of thing and has been for decades." I didn't hear that from anybody! I didn't hear from TV3 either. No, that was all I heard because they interviewed the mayor and they had everybody that was on all the hosts of these news shows They were just going on and on about how tolerant The New Zealanders are much more so than pretty much anyone else in the world Of course Multiculturalism lives! Diversity is the most important thing in our lives

51:06 Yeah, meanwhile there are people there who also have a problem with what they think are invaders. Regardless of the reality is what they think. Why did you choose New Zealand as a place to attack? Well New Zealand was not my original choice for the attack I only arrived in New Zealand temporarily whilst I planned and trained but soon planned and trained But I soon found out that New Zealand was as target rich of an environment as anywhere else in the West. Secondly, an attack in New Zealand would bring to attention the truth... ...of the assault on our civilization! That nowhere in the world was safe The invaders were in all of our lands even than the remotest areas of the world and there was nowhere left To go that was safe and free from mass immigration." Now you see beginning to get a little

51:51 view of what was going on inside the person who wrote this manifesto's head. So he went through the terrorist attack, now do you personally hate Muslims? A Muslim man or woman living in their homelands? No. A Muslim man or woman choosing to invade our lands, live on our soil and replace our people? Yes! I dislike them. The only Muslim I truly hate is the convert – those from our own people that turn their backs on their heritage, turn their backs on their cultures, turn their back on their traditions and become blood traders to their own race. These I hate." Do you personally hate foreigners or other cultures? No. I spent many years traveling through many, many nations everywhere I traveled barring a few small exceptions. I was treated wonderfully often as a guest even as a friend the varied cultures of the world greeted me with warmth and compassion i very much enjoyed nearly every moment I spent with them did you commit

52:43 Alright, so is it racist? It's worth reading. I'm not going to read every single bit of it but it's all marked up. Were there other targets planned in your attack? Many! One thing that can be said about the current state of the West is that we live in a target-rich environment. Traitors and enemies abound." And then, you know, are you a xenophobe? No. No culture scares me. Are you an Islamophobe? No. Are your white nationalist? Yes predominantly and ethno-nationalist I place importance on the health and well being of my race above all else. Are you a Nazi? No actual Nazis do not exist They haven't been a political or social force in the world for more than 60 years. Are you an anti-Semite? No, a Jew living in Israel is no enemy of mine so long as they do not seek to subvert or harm my people! Are you conservative? No, conservatism is corporatism in disguise I want no part of it

53:33 Now here's an interesting, seems kind of odd until you look into some of the documentation. Are you a fascist? Yes! For once the person that will be called a fascist is an actual fascist I am sure journalists will love that no because they won't report it. I mostly agree with Sir Oswald Mosley views and consider myself an eco-fascist by nature The nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the People's Republic of China. What? I'm not quite sure how that fits in, but it's worth mentioning!

CHAPTER 12 / 38 Discussion

Live Streaming Violence, Facebook Security Policies

The discussion focuses on the technical execution of the attack's live stream, which used a first-person perspective reminiscent of video games. Cybersecurity experts suggest that live streaming privileges should be restricted to verified accounts to prevent the broadcast of hate speech. The hosts explain the "shitposting" culture of 4chan and 8chan, where users aim to influence mainstream media through memes and provocative content.

facebook· live stream· gopro· cybersecurity· 4chan· 8chan· censorship

54:12 Well, it's all worth mentioning but you don't think this guy... No. This guy is a little sketchy? This whole manifesto with stuff like that? Yes! This guy is irrelevant I don't think he wrote this let's just look at the situation It was chosen... I don't think he wrote it either Is chosen in a very specific country for specific reasons as just I'm looking what happened on the document not this guy and I'm not calling it a false flag because it's very sophisticated operation the weapons where he has all this writing on them and it's heroes, and it's the dates of holding back the Ottoman Empire. That was meant to be found! It was meant to show this so people maybe start researching or thinking about...it is very obvious that this a mind bomb. It's to get people to look at stuff. That's a possibility I want to mention something else though Just about the video for second

55:06 This was very well done. First-person shooter view with, I don't know if it's a helmet GoPro or one on his chest? I mean but it was the angle everything was just like a video game of spoken to kids who have seen kids in the 20s who've seen it actually kind of underwhelming because not as As it did doesn't look as violent as a video game does often. And the sound, you know... Microphones can't capture the sound of something like that going off it just doesn't sound the same is in real life so it sounds kind of phony but the way that was done I would say was very very smart and meant to get the attention of young people

55:59 I would like to know, well a couple of things. One we on this show had predicted that this streaming on Facebook would end up with something bad Yes in fact there was a...I got some NPR clips about this too and they have all kinds of online terrorism experts who work at NPR and NBC, I guess they're experts. But let's talk about this streaming. Yeah what are we going to do? Katie Macias is a cybersecurity expert and she says... She's a security expert sorry Perhaps we should consider the possibility that not everyone should be able to live stream It's not a bad idea to potentially have only specific verified accounts allowed to post

56:45 something that they post, that is live-streamed does contain violence or hate speech. That privilege goes away." But she understands that's going to cause a lot of controversy. I mean can you imagine? Can you imagine Facebook and Twitter and Periscope saying all right you have to be verified now in order to be able to stream. About who is allowed freedom of speech Look here's the thing about free speech and free expression It's a messy proposition and there is always going to be abuse. Al Tompkins is a senior faculty at the Poynter Institute, he teaches ethics. It's true offline it's true online and if you intend to give people the ability to communicate freely with each other its gonna be messy and some people are going to abuse but most people won't Twitter and YouTube have both condemned that the attacks and said they are working to bring down any video of the shooting

57:36 Facebook said in a statement it moved quickly to take down the shooters' Facebook and Instagram accounts, and the video. It also said it is quote removing any praise or support for the crime and the shooter or shooters now well wait stop What she said at the end there, shooter or shooters. I want to mention this just so we can get out of the way. When the reports first started coming in there were four people involved in these shootings and it was that two different mosques and those two mosques weren't very close to each other. That one guy reported off the street saying this guy's driving around shooting randomly at any Muslims he saw which I thought was a little nuts

58:16 And then he went to the one mosque and shot most of the people. Then they went to another mosque and shot a bunch of people, then over time... And it was supposed to be two guys hitting the two mosques simultaneously with two partners. They in fact did arrest three men and one woman who are somehow involved, and that's all gone by the wayside. In his document he speaks specifically about the three mosques he is going to target He says I'm gonna do the first one then go to the second one And if i have time If I can get away with it I am going to a third one So...and that is all spelled out in the document

58:55 But this is, you know I have never really gone in depth on 4chan and 8chan. It's beyond me it's above me i'm too old You know? I'm what these people would consider a normie maybe a hyper-normie because um...I can kind of fathom what's going on there but a lot of massive memes things that become part of our lexicon come from these groups and To me it's very much like, you know, Matrix-y underground type groups and they lead a different life and they get off on having the media being influenced by what they do. So this little section here...

CHAPTER 13 / 38 Discussion

Candace Owens, PewDiePie Meme References

The hosts highlight the sarcastic nature of the manifesto, which claims Candace Owens was the primary influence for the attack. They explain the "Subscribe to PewDiePie" reference made during the live stream as an internet meme that the media misinterpreted. They argue the document was intentionally filled with "edgy humor" to attract young people and troll journalists.

candace owens· pewdiepie· memes· 8chan· sarcasm· radicalization

59:35 Where did you receive research or develop your beliefs? He says the internet of course, you will not find the truth anywhere else. That's a 4chan 8chan sarcastic joke and all of this is in there so right after another Were you taught violence extremism and extremism by video games music literature and cinema And he says yes Spyro the dragon taught me ethno nationalism fortnight trained Me to be a killer and to floss on the corpses of my enemies No And then finally, and this is how I believe you should read this... Is there a particular person that radicalized you the most? Yes! The person that has influenced me above all was Candace Owens. Each time she spoke I was stunned by her insights and her own views helped me push further and further into the belief of violence over meekness, though it will have to disavow some of her beliefs. The extreme actions she calls for are too much even for my tastes." You know anyone asking why is like its part of the same sarcastic joke

1:00:35 It's sarcastic material. Candace Owens has never... It's 8chan material, it's 8chan material And then here the final step which I think is the final step of his plan Why do you believe you will be released from prison? I do not expect to be just released. I also expect an eventual Nobel Peace Prize, as was awarded to the terrorist Nelson Mandela once his own people achieved victory and took power. I expect to be freed in 27 years from my incarceration—the same number of years as Mandela for the same crime." There's something to be said for it... Not the way he did it but you know Mandela was involved in some stuff wasn't that why they threw him in jail?

1:01:28 It was yeah, it was one of the reasons they threw him in jail. Are you a fed slash shill slash Mossad agent slash false flag slash Patsy slash infiltrator slash Antifa slash glow-in-the-dark etc No But the next person to attack could be so a healthy skepticism is a good thing Just do not allow your skepticism to turn your paranoid to turn to paranoia and keep you from supporting those that want the best for you and I found this Is this your complete writings and views? Unfortunately not. There was a much larger work written, roughly 240 pages—this one is about 80— that spoke on many issues and went into much depth but in the moment of unbridled self-criticism I deleted the entire work and started again two weeks before the attack itself! I was left with a short period of time to create a new work and only leave my views half finished. I will let my actions speak for themselves." Now, I don't know

1:02:28 What that is supposed, why that's in there. But you don't delete anything even off of a hard drive so if they can retrieve anything it'd be interesting to see what the... He doesn't do anything! It's full of shit this guy! And then there's again this guy is the guy himself who was in jail I don't think is important. It's part of a culture that we really don't know anything about and yeah I think he's obviously nuts But it's there are people behind him who wrote this and again, it's not a false flag. It's a real operation Well, false flags are real operations. Right but it's not like a country or you know who said oh let's do this or yeah let's do this... It's not the government doing this to get rid of guns. We have to remember that we have a problem with our show and I think the way people look at these things there's differences between false flags, real operations, real operations that are false flags and hoaxes

CHAPTER 14 / 38 Discussion

European Strongmen, Diversity vs. Equality Philosophy

The manifesto addresses various groups, including threats to Turks regarding the "reconquest" of Constantinople and the Hagia Sophia. It critiques modern conservatism for failing to preserve Western culture and environment. The document concludes with a philosophical argument that diversity is anathema to equality, which the hosts find too sophisticated for a high school dropout, suggesting external authorship.

constantinople· hagia sophia· tommy robinson· diversity· equality· quixotic

1:03:30 Where nothing happens, and it's all bullcrap. Which we've identified a few of those over time But this definitely was not that. No, and then he has notes to different groups of people He says to conservatives ask yourself truly what is modern conservatism managed to conserve? Says The natural environment Western culture ethnic autonomy religion the nation the race nothing is conserved The natural environment is industrialized pulverised and commoditized. He's oh he hates conservatives conservatives And then to Christians he posts two passages from the Bible, which I don't recognize and are not Marx so i don't know where they're from. To Antifa, Marxists and communists, I do not want to convert you! I do not want to come to understanding. Egalitarians and those that believe in hierarchy will never come to terms. I don't want you by my side and I don't want you to share power. I want you in my sights. I want your neck under my boot see you on the streets you anti-white scum

1:04:32 And then to Turks, and he's very specific about—and this comes right back to Constantinople which is today's modern Istanbul. To Turks you can live in peace in your own lands and may no harm come to you on the east side of the Bosporus which is the traditional divide where we have the devout Islamists and then it used to be secular on the western side He goes on to say if you attempt to live in the European lands anywhere west of the Bosporus We will kill you and drive you roaches from our lands. We are coming for Constantinople, we will destroy every mosque and minaret in the city. The Hagia Sophia will be free of minarets... ...and Constantinople will be rightfully Christian-owned once more." This is the—at one point was the largest thing as a cathedral, the Hagia Sophia which was Christian run

1:05:28 And then it became a mosque. So I guess that's an important symbol for guys like this. And who is truly to blame? The people who are to blame most ourselves, European men strongmen do not get ethnically replaced Strongman do not allow their culture to degrade Strongmen do not allow their people to die Weak men have created this situation and strongmen are needed to fix it and then he has a whole list about Wikipedia links of European women invaders, the rape of European women invaders. And it's more than just Rotherham if you look at the list its got Rotherham Aylesbury Banbury Bristol Derby Halifax Huddersfield Cayley Newcastle Rochdale Oxford Peterborough this is stuff that Tommy Davidson went to jail for talking about this all mainly British

1:06:23 British places. Then we have Ashfield, Sydney, Finland... So this is not a cut and paste he's showing all the different places where this is happening that he talks about the radicalization of Western man about the pedophile rings The failure of assimilation. Green nationalism, he says is the only true nationalism there is no green future with never-ending population growth the ideal green world cannot exist in a world of 100 billion 50 billion or even 10 billion people continued immigration into Europe is environmental warfare and ultimately destructive to nature itself so interesting alignment with with the greenies there

1:07:03 Then he does call for the death of certain people which has also not been mentioned I think you know it's in the document and he says look you can do T ATP packages strapped to drones In motorcycle saddlebags, you can convoy ambush rammings. They don't want people talking about the document perhaps that particular I Don't even think they read this fair John this far. I don't think they ever even saw it Well, if it's our media that is for sure. Let us see who needs to die? Merkel the mother of all things anti-white and anti-Germanic is top of the list he says few have done more damage and racially cleanse Europe of its people Erdogan leader of oldest enemies of our people and leader largest Islamic group within Europe

1:07:46 He's very specific. This warlord must bleed his last while he visits his ethnic soldiers currently occupying Europe, His death will also drive a wedge between the Turk invaders currently occupying our lands and the ethnic European people while simultaneously weakening Turkey's hold on the region. Let me just read that list I don't need all of the details. Sadiq Khan mayor of London... Those are just usual suspects Yes! And then and then he says... We can leave it at this The paradox of the diverse equality. The greatest joke of all is the quixotic, quixotic foolishness... ...of the diverse but equal society." Diversity- Yeah I read that sentence and i think the use of the word quixotic like this is extremely unlikely. No way! I don't even know what it means

1:08:41 Quixotic refers to Don Quixote and the shaking your fists at windmills. Well, here he's... so this he may have gotten this from somewhere else but he says diversity by its very definition belies equality. No two different things can ever truly be equal especially humans there is no one person equal to any other not identical twins not countrymen not workers within the class group and certainly not those of different races every human is worth only their own value no more or less The more diverse a group becomes, the less equal it becomes. Diversity is anathema to equality one cannot exist with that with the other which is true all right so I don't know whether that's true or not well diversity and equality in people you can't...I agree with that It's philosophical You could be argued every which way forever

1:09:37 Stop buying this guy. I mean, everything you read just doesn't sound like who this guy is He's a high school dropout using the words like quixotic and then he's philosophizing about diversity versus equality This is stuff of Yeah, this you know very high-end intellectuals that sit around bitching or pitching what am I saying? Discussing these topics. Yes using all kinds of it's just if this thing is very as I Think there's gonna be shown at this guy either didn't even travel around this guy But again John I'll just repeat it This guy is not this document is not this guy where we agree on that and

CHAPTER 15 / 38 Discussion

Silicon Valley Algorithms, Radicalization in Schools

The hosts discuss how YouTube recommendation algorithms are blamed for radicalizing individuals by leading them toward extremist content. They argue that instead of censoring the manifesto, schools should deconstruct it to help students understand the underlying propaganda. They criticize the media for focusing on Trump rather than addressing the genuine social tensions regarding immigration in Europe.

youtube· algorithms· radicalization· immigration· education· media critique

1:10:22 So whatever they, while everyone's focusing on this guy. This thinking is out there! This thinking is not him in a vacuum. This thinking is amongst people... Not the killing and the death But the despair... No, I'm not going to argue it. Obviously this thing is out there because somebody put that document together whether it was him or whoever Exactly but it's not a yeah and I think there's a lot of stuff in that document that is something to be concerned about Yes and especially when he starts using code The tone of this document is all about the internet. He writes it in this sort of snarky adolescent style, and especially there's this lengthy self-interview he does sort of imagining what the media might ask him. It's really self important but it's also full of all these winking references to internet memes and it's very self aware at one point even says that his racist project relies on quote edgy humor and memes in the vanguard stage in order to attack attract young people can you give us an example of that?

1:11:22 Well, probably the one everyone's talking about is how when he was streaming live video during his attack right at the start. He says subscribe to PewDiePie and now that sounds bizarre to the average grown up but you need to understand that PewDiePie is this Swedish video game playing YouTube star and His crown as the most subscribed to person on YouTube had been threatened by another YouTube account out of India So for a lot of people or some people subscribe to PewDiePie as sort of internet code for supporting white Europeans So well, I suppose you could make that interpretation. Well, but but it's it doesn't really matter because the interpretation that's NPR This is the interpretation as being made so what? I see happening Is a meme filled document which is being checked which is meant to be cherry-picked from its set up That way is it seems it's happening and it's delighting people who are

1:12:18 have this similar invader belief. But when it's described on television as crazy white supremacists don't read the document, this should be discussed and explained in schools because it's very easy for these children any child to fall into this and I consider anyone under 30 eligible for this kind of bull So it is, I'm... Well i am concerned about and that that is probably the fourth meme to come out of this besides its a 9-11 blog should be monitored and blogs should be licensed. And uh... It's terrorism or why isn't it terrorism? I think the fourth meme coming out of this is these is this

1:13:01 Don't read the document. Yeah, here's well Here's the online terrorism expert from NBC and he's on NPR And of course he knows how yeah He really understands what's going on it has nothing to do with a document see it's now it's Silicon Valley Recommendation algorithms what exactly is that? Sure sure sure there it is. Sure like hey, sure yeah, sure sure sure sure sure recommendation algorithms What exactly is that? Yeah Oh sure so say on YouTube you know You're looking at a YouTube video and there's this thing in the right sidebar It auto plays afterwards right it just gives you another video after the fact to keep things moving right

1:13:37 A lot of extremism groups have gamed this system as a way to try to get their outreach through YouTube and Facebook, as well. And what they'll do is they'll take these ideas that will slowly sort of seep into your idea that maybe you should get more militants or maybe it's not acceptable that immigration is at high Hides in your country or something like that and then I see you're saying this is act on it Yeah, this guy could have any obviously we don't know a lot at this point But someone like this could be radicalized in that way if they were active on sites like that Oh absolutely And there's we've seen this over and over again We've seen some of the synagogue shooter in United States as well where he's in these spaces. This guy was on a chin That's very posted his His manifesto and its link to connect the link to the live stream as well It's other people sort of found it sir Washington real-time a Chan is

1:14:27 a message for the fact that i can extremely extreme expected ported extremely anti-immigrant extremely racist completely anonymous much about yourself like this uh... once you're all the way down that path it's really hard to turn back and that that the other thing is that these companies really don't take steps in time tickets people who are you know not dead dangerous stopped them from getting all this content in their system and drumming up fears within themselves, and then eventually carrying out a racist terror attack. Okay so what these morons don't understand is that places like 4chan and 8chan are not companies necessarily... And it doesn't matter you can take it down, you can take it all down the internet as a network and can and will be utilized by anyone who wants to communicate In fact having an adverse effect by taking these places down and removing people from speech

1:15:16 And I see already seen in the troll room like who what idiot will read this and get radicalized? I think more than you would even dare imagine it's you know, it's really It doesn't take much when You see the changes that young people up to 30 have witnessed in Europe. I can't speak for... The US is different, we're an immigration country this is what we are it's who we are you know the argument of people coming in illegally is different from We Don't Want People which is what Trump has always accused of as not true but in Europe these are not traditional immigration countries! We had guest workers

1:16:02 in every country and this is now by many perceived to be an invasion living in some shitty ass town in France or the Netherlands or Belgium, or England. And then all of a sudden your entire street view changes is not to be taken lightly then you add some of this stuff and you add some historical stuff about the Vienna and the Ottoman Empire, and the Crusades, and the Knights Templar. And it's not hard to get an imaginative young person to say hey wait a minute! When you take this document it should be dissected deconstructed and spoken with about people in schools because if not they're going to interpret it very...in ways that will cause more violence

CHAPTER 16 / 38 Discussion

No Agenda Artwork, Pi Day Theme

The hosts thank artist CESB for the Episode 1120 artwork, which featured a Pi Day theme. They discuss the technical requirements for podcast art, emphasizing that designs must remain legible when scaled down to thumbnail sizes for mobile devices.

cesb· artwork· pi day· no agenda art generator· podcast production

1:16:49 And so fuck you media for doing what you're doing. Blame it on Trump! That is the worst, that's exactly the wrong way to go and it's kind of what this guy's hoping for or whoever wrote this group I'll say it's a group who wrote this document Yeah well blame it on Trump Sadly Well there are couple things being blamed on Trump but before we get to that can we take a break? Well I'm good Let me thank you for your courage say in the morning to you John see the man who put the sea and compendium Deborah Mr. Adam curry Also in the morning told the ships at the sea and all of beat feet in the water the subs in the air And the dames and knights out there yes in the morning to the troll room That's no agenda stream calm where you can listen to a pre stream before we even start 11 central time Thursdays and Sundays, that's the other Thursday, and then we always do it live and we love seeing everyone there You can help

1:17:44 Pass off one line as your thoughts, use experience or just be a troll. That's why it is the Troll Room Also in the morning to CSB who brought us the artwork for episode 1120 title of that was Sure and it was a great piece It was 3.14 for Pi Day mirrored in the font he chose looks like pi P-I-E Three one four piee coincidence I think not And we like that a lot. There were some other interesting pieces of art that we didn't go for, and I think this was just the one that jumped out the best. Remember it... We have to shrink it down! It's not the size you send it at. It's usually about half that for most people who are viewing the artwork on little thumbnails so it's important that its large enough. The way it shows up on the Art Generator

1:18:38 Which is even bigger than some instances, as opposed to full-size. Yeah exactly. If you look at it at the art generator small size and you can't read it and you can see all these little details although you can see them fine in full size nobody is... those are not going out at full size they're going out at like 256. They have to be designed appropriately yes Most of the artists know this. Well, thank you very much CESB. And you can check out all the artwork at noagendaartgenerator.com and now as we're running a little behind today but now is the time for us to thank our executive and associate executive producers starting with Daniel Galloway

CHAPTER 17 / 38 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Sir Spud The Mighty

The show acknowledges major donations from Daniel Galloway and Sir Nubbin. A donor describes being "walked out the door" at an Amazon job, prompting a request for "Jobs Karma." Thomas Young of Rum Jog Enterprises contributes, noting that the No Agenda production quality serves as an inspiration for his own company's podcasts.

daniel galloway· sir spud the mighty· amazon· jobs karma· rum jog enterprises

1:19:29 who came with $406 from Marietta, Georgia. And he sent a note in which not much of a note is going to be knighted today's list. Okay? 406 interesting amount. I wonder what that's about his note is mostly just numbers. Numbers pages and pages of the numbers does it turn out to be another happy prime? Just lots of numbers. The PayPal account has tied to radix I've been in the troll room for the last year or so as Radix023 and still don't look like a middle-aged lesbian, Adam. What? This is your bit! What is he saying?!

1:20:15 I don't know. It's a reference to you, so it must have been something you said! I don't...I don't know! Sorry? Maybe it wasn't- I've been in the troll room for the last year or so as Radix023 and I still don't look like a middle aged lesbian Adam Wow, I dunno what maybe- I would like to claim this title of Sir Spud The Mighty Do I look like a middle aged lesbian?! Maybe that's it. Okay, well thanks? I think... Maybe that's what he is trying to tell you. Sir Nubbin, 333-333. I would like Jobs Karma and Goat Karma as I recently was walked out the door at an Amazon job. Wow! Walked out the door! Yeah do tell. More details would be nice

1:21:09 Also with this donation I should now have a little change of baronet. Change of Baron, to change two Baronesses. Yes he becomes a Baroness today. Scott and Elizabeth... Whoa whoa whoa! He needs his jobs and go Karma. Gotta give the man what he needs. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! We need to know more about this You put your stuff in this box. Got it with a gun. Could be.

1:22:00 and the last $520 payment was on show 1056, QVision. That was a great episode of the best podcast in the universe we hope for it's like today! The next time we donate at the end of July Elizabeth will be coming into her Damehood. Nice In my honest opinion Nashville Murphysboro is a hot spot for a Curry Dvorak meetup Yes We have discussed this If I'm not mistaken Adam was last there in 2009 with Hot Pocket Store Yeah, I was tied up taking care of this much younger Elizabeth that night and I couldn't make it to the big show. Elizabeth would like the jingles... I'm speaking for her! She would like the jingles Don't Raph

1:22:48 Why are you raffing and shut up slave, and I'll take a karma. Thank you for all your entertaining inform twice weekly best regards Scott's in Elizabeth and this is oh this is for For Elizabeth for a day mood okay? Don't laugh why you are laughing Shut Up You've got karma Thomas Young, $333 in Branchburg New Jersey. And he sent a note in very fancy note too. He runs Rum Jog Enterprises. I'm gonna check, I believe came from Rum Jog Enterprises

1:23:34 As promised, here's a check for Executive Producers Show 1121. I've been listening to your great show for six plus months! This is my first donation under the Value For Value model and I feel better knowing that I'll be de-douche'd! You got it! My company has two podcasts and the quality of The No Agenda Show production is an inspiration to us both in terms of content, and quality of broadcast production. My sense is that you guys are going to have your hands full as the dam fells like, feels like it's going to break soon and all hell will be breaking loose. Maybe time to put a little Q-vision glasses on for a spell! Please give me a de-douching jingle along with... You got that? With a Jobs Karma goat scream Also if you have any special lucky leprechaun jingles for St Patrick's Day

1:24:30 One could always use some luck. Thomas Young managing partner Rum Jog Enterprises I wish i had a leprechaun, I don't have a leprechaun...I don't have anything leprechaun-y Yeah yeah you didn't prepare for St Patrick's Day You hate the Irish Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs I wish you wouldn't spread fake news like that because people actually think I hate dogs. Everybody knows, I'm joking now people there are people who think I hate dogs. Excuse me? Yes So he has these two these two podcasts and one of them is called pardon the disruption podcast And the other ones experience this podcast

CHAPTER 18 / 38 Discussion

Baronet Titles, Space Force and Pinewood Derby

Donations from Sir Walkman and Tracy Bassano are recognized, with a shout-out to a husband working for the "Space Force" (NASA). Sir Patrick Kobles, the Earl of Tennessee, discusses his transition from Ducati motorcycles to stock car racing and his son's participation in the Pinewood Derby. The hosts also mention the expertise of certain producers in the field of penetration testing.

space force· nasa· pinewood derby· ducati· penetration testing· meetups

1:25:15 And it's about discussing emerging technologies, economy and all the sorts of you know the usual stuff. The usual stuff yeah the usual yes okay so walk me I will say this i'm sorry that I used that as a running gag that you hate this and you hate that but dogs...I don't hate dogs! I've had many dogs. You'll feel better with dogs now that you got your own house and then one day Tina is gonna say you know what would be great? It's not gonna happen. Maybe, you never know. Sir Walkman... Oh it already happened is what you're saying? No! Just hey stick to your note reading. Sir Walkman of Buckeye in Louisville, Louisville, Louisville is what it is 317 19 Ohio ITM Jents Jingle Q Jill Abramson Yoko singing and Stop the Hammering Nice combo

1:26:21 These shows keep me sane from massive M5M anti-Trump messaging. No Agenda is one of the few outlets that explores the globalist agenda." F the UN, f the EU to all the slaves out there. Chip in or be a douchebag! Shoutout to The Troll Room if my accounting is correct this donation should push my title up to Baron I'd like to claim Ohio territory. Okay i think that's available. Well we're going to give it to him but he could be under dispute But you know, obviously I read the New York Times like all day long. Mainly on my iPad app. Stop the hammering! Stop the hammering! You've got karma. Tracy...

1:27:36 Bassano in Madison, Alabama 31719 which is the this is the St. Patrick's Day donation so we have two of these shout out to my smoking hot husband John Basano engineer for Space Force! Space Force aka NASA. D-Douche him. Nice You've been d-douched Aaron Gobrag, please reserve a bottle of A. Salmic vinegar. Jingles request... That was you know that's good it's still a good idea. And mac and cheese Huntsville Alabama great place for the meetup

1:28:21 India, Tango, Mike. Standby... 33, 33, 33. Robilizer out. Few slaves can get used to mac and cheese! Macaroni and cheese cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese. The karma no karma at the end I'd was there a request for I'll give it. I didn't see your request for Karma You've got Karma She's the one who recognized my hilarious use of the word a-salnik. Earl of Tennessee, Sir Patrick Cobles here with $317 and 19 cents he'll be our other lucky St. Patrick's Day donor. Earl of Tennessee, Patrick Cobles, Sir Patrick you can count as... You should be wearing green this can count as my green so don't I don't get pinched ah that's right you get pinched if you don't get word green

1:29:24 Travel and Jobs Karma, please. It was great to see so many at the Des Moines Iowa meetup. Sorry for missing the Austin meetup but we had Pinewood Derby races that day! Thanks for everything you do... I don't even know what that is. Thanks for everything you do for our community. I'm going to keep trying to go to all of them as I can he wants he likes to go to meetups He came out to Sacramento Maybe a Nashville one, maybe another one. Another Sacramento train meetup? Huh John?" So I had a chat with Earl Patrick and because I asked him how's the Ducatis now he sold it because now he is into stock car racing and I believe his son in the Pinewood Derby so I don't know if that's... Isn't that motorcycle race? No I think its uh... Well Ducati is a motorcycle. Yeah but he gave that up

1:30:19 So what I said he had to give that up because he went to stock car racing or other really well Then you can put a no agenda sticker. Yes on the side of the stock car yes, i'm pretty sure i'm pretty sure his vehicle has some No agenda stuff on it but he'll have to send a picture but the pinewood derby isn't that the um Downhill race and little go-kart that you build yourself with your kid? No idea. I think so. I think so That's That's I don't know if that it said or maybe so look at no the pinewood is those little cars that you put you make it yourself. You use With first kid, you whistle it out of wood box Yeah soapbox But it's not to sit in I think it's just a little thing that gets on the track your own little piece of pine That's the pinewood Derby you're talking to somebody who doesn't know what you talk clearly Okay yeah clearly

1:31:14 I prefaced it with that. Wait, he needs travel and jobs karma. Oh yeah, he needs to travel karma. Jobs, jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! You know if you see Kobol you should talk to him about penetration testing. Oh believe me He's one of the great experts on this topic. Well, we all know I'm the penetration expert but okay if you want to call him the top in the field it's fine. We had a long chat about it. Ronald Cedario 31416

CHAPTER 19 / 38 Discussion

Ben Shapiro Laugh, Clip Story Sequence

The hosts work through a specific request for a "clip story" involving a sequence of audio drops, including a Ben Shapiro laugh and other show-specific jingles. They discuss the narrative structure of audio clips used for "de-douching" donors.

ben shapiro· soundboard· jingles· podcast editing· audio clips

1:31:58 I've been a douchebag for far too long, just got my bonus and had to chip in. The best podcast in the universe keep up... glad we got that meme going. Chip it in! Keep up the great work. I'm hopeful there will be a Florida meet-up sometime in the future yeah probably. Jingles de-douching two to the head her head is gone and the shrieking Ben Shapiro laugh That was one of your clips, and I can't remember what you titled it for sure. It's not titled laugh or Shapiro Can you remember what you might have titled that one? Yeah Yeah, it wasn't ISO yeah is also not under ISO. I looked oh it wasn't I so so it had to be under ISO No, it's not under ISO And he had to be within the last month So do can you do a can you look at your ISO list and date sort it and give me the last ten okay here we go

1:32:58 Yes, let me go back to the beginning. I am triggered Judy Oh bench pair of baby Hitler's no that's not it Amy I saw I mean this you just don't title either might be a bit play it hold on baby Hitler Let's see would you kill baby hitler and the truth is it's not it? Really not I'm triggered. No, I don't know but it's whatever it is You didn't tell us this loss in the way wait wait Yes, he shoots he scores And a deducing You've got karma

1:33:50 It's not a bad sequence. I'd like to request a redo. A redo, okay... Two to the head and her head is gone and then the laugh okay. And her head is gone Sick. You're sick, Dvorak. You're sick! It tells a story. That's the way people should think about these things Yes it has a beginning and middle and end. It is beautiful Yeah it has...it's little...it's a little story It is In clips There should be some...we need a word for clip story

CHAPTER 20 / 38 Discussion

Andrew Yang, Accelerationism and Neo-Reactionary Concepts

A donor provides context on presidential candidate Andrew Yang's support among "Zoomers," linking it to the concept of accelerationism. This neo-reactionary philosophy suggests that since the country is doomed, one should hasten its collapse while securing financial benefits like Universal Basic Income. The hosts compare this to "Dominionist" religious views regarding the end times and the rapture.

andrew yang· accelerationism· ubi· zoomers· dominionists· jehovah's witness

1:34:28 Baronet Sir American Carnage, $222.22. He'll be our first associate executive producer for show 1121 from Baronets or American Carnage please keep me anonymous and look for information email from I won't say his name he says informatively funny though informative email You know you can put the note in there. I will do a quick search. I have it He said informative email hey John and Adam wanted to follow up on the note from the zoomer yang donor To offer some this is about what's the guys name? The first these guys first name Yang was running for president Yang his name is Ying Yang Stop, his name is not yin-yang. What's his name? Bill Yang

1:35:16 Andrew, I think Ying is more racist though. I want to follow up on the note from the Zoomer Ying Yang donor. To offer some context for Yang's support, you have to think in terms of what is called accelerationism which is a neo-reactionary concept popular with the zoomers. I am a young millennial but I interact with their millieeeerrrr a lot The Yang support ignores immigration and climate change issues with the universal basic income because, as John mentioned, the nihilism has set in. So I'm just going to before I continue we had a discussion about the universal basic income and we both agreed that you cannot have open borders if you need a moat around the country if you're giving away free money for doing nothing

1:36:12 So he addresses why here, why Yang supports or ignores immigration and climate change because as John mentioned the nihilism is set in. Accelerationism basically posits that America is headed toward doom so the best thing to do politically is bring it down as fast as possible and grab what bags of money you can in the process thus... Thus, Yang appeals to the bleak caustic jaded zoomer outlook of those who aren't hyper-progressive. It's equal parts meme legitimate despair shitposting and anger at Trumps failure to act on his campaign promises in order 1 the country is doomed 2 the rules don't matter 3 we might as well get that money

1:36:58 This is a common refrain, sorry if this is overly long but I think it's valuable Zoomer and Yang context. NJNK. I appreciate the...this story but also the term accelerationism is fantastic. Accelerationism is what this douche in New Zealand basically did I would say that's true and i will point out that accelerationism, if we're going to use the term, would account for the dominionists during the George Bush administration wanting to create a chaos in the Middle East of the point where it would cause the rapture. Ah right so yes! You're so right The Dominionists can we just call them kooky religious nuts?

1:37:44 Well, we probably have a lot of Dominionists that listen to the show. Really? Mostly they go, oh if they only knew half the story! Is this like Latter-day Saints only then... No nothing like that no there's Christian fundamentalists that believe in the end, that the end times are near and they preach around that belief. So that's the end times are near like near like in the next couple of days That's the guys who knock on your door with the Bible Those are the Seventh-day Adventist. That's a different group. They're not dominionists No no I'm not thinking of those The other ones Well there's Mormons that knock on your door Seventh day adventists knock on your door

1:38:29 Jehovah's Witness. Jehovah's Witness, they are closer to that I think. Mmm...I don't know. Because they're always talking about their own times. As far as I'm concerned. Jehovah's Witness and a lot of conspiracy theories are the same because I've talked to them. Well they do what-they always leave a tract If you're not there and it's always a one page release. Yes, I recall them... Talks about the end is near. I think maybe four or five years ago they showed up at my door and I talked to him and I just hit him with everything I had. Like yeah man that's right! It was all going down! Yeah the internet it's... And they were like... You brother are... Why are you guys outside? You brother already saved! We can move on to the next house

CHAPTER 21 / 38 Discussion

D Lawless Hardware, Value For Value Business Model

Derek Lawless of D Lawless Hardware discusses how he applies the "Value for Value" model to his family business through bartering hardware for photography. He offers a discount code for No Agenda listeners and encourages supporting independent businesses listed on the "Gitmo List." The hosts emphasize the impact of spending money with like-minded small businesses.

d lawless hardware· value for value· bartering· gitmo list· small business

1:39:20 Okay, but yes it the concept of acceleration ism Which is like you know like this guy said in New Zealand. I want to hasten the pendulum swinging It's it's sad but look at what we've told these these zoomers who've told them It's the end is near. It's all over Yeah, that's not us telling them. No! Not you and I. We're no agenda person. No we remain very optimistic It's the M5M these people. We remain optimistic and chipper Exactly as is Jared Oettinger He is in Dallas Oregon. Dallas Oregon yes $200 and three...$203.14 is his contribution. I was introduced to you guys about nine years ago while battling cancer

1:40:12 You stayed with me through three years of chemo, although it was on again off again. However the last couple of years our relationship has blossomed and I definitely need a de-douching. You've been de-douched! I truly appreciate the calm center that you guys provide and i'm happy to say my son now listens as well Just play some Mac and Cheese, and Hot Pockets. As that's what I grew up eating as well as an F-cancer. Thanks! Living the mac n' cheese life... Mac N' Cheese! Hot pockets! Jobs, jobs, jobs & jobs Let's vote for jobs! Sorry

1:40:59 You've got karma. Slip the Jobs Karma in there for you as well, so you get a bonus F cancer and the jobs karma Thank you Jared and good on ya man get your kid into this early save him Derek Derek Lawless And by the way lawless I think is one of the great last names it's also a great name for a stripper Yes, Lucy Lawless Lucy Cindy Lawless Do one John do one Cindy 201 17 Thank you for running such an entertaining and informative show. Thank you especially for your consistent promotion of the Value For Value model, I have been using something similar for nearly a decade to promote our family business. D Lawless Hardware." Oh yes this is Derek! Yes he sent us the stuff you can stick on the drywall that holds 40 pounds.

1:41:53 He's at Dlawlesshardware.com. Our site is filled with work from small businesses which I provided hardware to in exchange for photography featuring that hardware this set up a boom boon to us and our partners producers as hardware is costly to them while photography is costly to me Getting creative with how one provides value is key. It's called bartering in this case to success in the modern business and that IRS hates it by the way. Oh, yeah. Do they? There are surely more ways than money to provide value that said there's always money Please tell the listeners that code no agenda will get them 10% off any order from D lawless hardware

1:42:39 So there's a code, put code NOAGENDA in there because it probably has a box. I have purchased products from other NOAGENDA producers and it's a great way to support the like-minded people. In my mind, the only real power most of us slaves have is the way we spend our money buying something from a small or independent business or donating to NOAGENDA may very well be the most impactful thing you do each day! Thanks for the plug, NOAGENDA, no Jingles No Karma And I'd like... KD9HZT, 73s. Yes! Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie 73's and this is a good time to promote the Gitmo list

1:43:18 If he's not in here or on here, I'm sure the get mo list guys will put it on gitmo list org GIT MO L A ST Org and that's where you can find a lot of no agenda related businesses and just all kinds of stuff also Just ancillary sites with nuttiness that we have had that has glommed onto us into this sticky ball of deconstruction over the years Thank you very much. The goodness that had no it sticky ball of no agenda goodness, thank you very much Derek Wallace 21 we want to thank all these folks are producing executive producing this show and

CHAPTER 22 / 38 Discussion

Producer Credits, Show Promotion

The hosts explain the value of executive and associate executive producer credits, encouraging donors to list these titles on professional profiles like LinkedIn. They remind listeners of the upcoming Thursday show and how to provide support.

executive producer· associate executive producer· linkedin· podcast support

1:43:56 And we have others to thank later, but these are the top of the list because they get the full credit. Just like Hollywood where we give you your credits, your executive producer credit associate executive producer credit they are valuable and recognized were and very valuable actually work credits are recognized so put it anywhere that makes sense certainly your LinkedIn profile people put them in their email signature and Twitter names also seem to be not the actual at sign but then whatever your handle is at the top that people put in there their executive producer or their associate executive producer status. Thank you so much and remember we have another show coming up on Thursday, you can support that one as well by going to devorak.org slash NA Well I think you've got enough on that manifesto You can call it a little bit of formula go propagate Our formula is this We go out, we hit people in the mouth Oh my God Shut Up Snake

CHAPTER 23 / 38 Discussion

Bill Weld, Republican Primary Challenge

Former Massachusetts Governor Bill Weld is criticized for his decision to run as a Republican against Donald Trump. The hosts debunk Weld's comparison of Trump's "America First" rhetoric to the Nazi party, noting Weld's factual errors regarding political party names. They also mock Weld's support for rejoining the Paris Climate Accords and the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).

bill weld· massachusetts· nazi party· climate change· tpp· republican party

1:45:06 There's a couple of things I want to talk about. I want to get this one these won't clips out of the way because there's some information here that is Necessary, there's this joker used to be the governor of Massachusetts He's getting all kinds of play on the media because he's gonna be a Republican running against Trump. Ah perfect Bill Weld's his name what does he? What is it? Where's he from? What is it boy? We know where he's from man. You're the governor of Massachusetts and then you got booted out. He's actually a dummy What happened was, I think when he was governor of Massachusetts to get him out because you don't need these Republicans in Massachusetts. Bill Clinton offered him the ambassadorship to Mexico. Oh classic! Hey we that's like Uncle Don after Iran-Contra hey you're now the ambassador to South Korea

1:45:55 Go far away. So the guy quit his governorship and goes to become ambassador of Mexico, which has got to be a thankless job is useless. And then he came back after Clinton got kicked out and tried to run for Senate tried to get back in the poly couldn't win anything as he's a douche And I'm going to prove it by playing some of his clips about how he's gonna beat Trump. He's gonna beat Trump because he's all into all kinds of stuff that you never, Nick, never imagined. Start with... Is he a cage fighter? Let's start with clip two. ...basket as the late head of the American Nazi Party am i correct

1:46:36 It says to it says bill weld on podcast 2 climate, okay. Okay. Sorry you want to play it still play it Yeah, I'm putting them in the same sentence But You know III think the president He makes no bones about the fact he says America first which was Charles Lindbergh's fifth column before World War two and he says I'm a nationalist and Well, it is the party that took over in Nazi Germany in the 1930s. So that's a nationalist workers' party. Governor you've broken with the president and really the rest of the party on climate change What do you see as the best policy to reduce carbon emissions considering the scale at their own and these sense of emergency that surrounds it?

1:47:24 Well, I think we should rejoin the Paris climate accords for openers and adopt percentages that are consonant with our responsibility. On the issue of climate there's a divide between the developed nations and lesser developed countries I think what President Trump would like to do is say, well we've gotten the benefits of the Industrial Revolution. Now you have to agree – you and your rainforests not to emit any carbon dioxide and we don't care if you ever develop because we've got ours again that's an unattractive point-of-view It's not what anyone is thinking. But let's go back to what he said at the beginning, and that I think is in clip one. You know why? I think the president makes no bones about the fact America First which was Charles Lindbergh fifth column before World War II and he says I'm a nationalist well it is the party that took over Nazi Germany in 1930 so that's the Nationalist Workers Party

1:48:29 Yeah, yeah. Okay. This is bullcrap! It's total bullcrap it's a lie. Let me give you the name of these parties. The Nazi party was the national not the nationalist the National Socialist Workers Party yes the National Socialist Workers Party The Nationalist Workers Party did exist it was a fringe party in of all places New Zealand Well, we know about New Zealand. This guy is a dick because he associates... He's used the word nationalist when the Nazis were the National Socialist Workers Party so this guy is full of crap The guy doing the interview doesn't say anything! He doesn't know John! He doesn't know Jack So we go along with this joker and this Bill... Play this last clip This where he's going on and I think his real concern is that there are a lot of these old Republicans

1:49:28 Pretty state and they think Trump's a jerk because he doesn't have comportment, which is a word that I don't think I've ever used. But comportments? Is that in this clip the term the word comportments you can play it well you better be ready to explain what it means Well, I think on the international front The president has totally upended the correct order of things He's insulting our allies and you know his favorite foreign leaders are the ones who were autocratic or despotic. I think his interactions with the Justice Department, starting with Jim Comey even Jeff Sessions

1:50:12 don't bespeak any notion of fidelity to law. The sign that's on the Justice Department building at 10th and Constitution in Washington, a government of laws and not of men, that's pretty deep in our history and the President seems to have no interest in that. You know there is just a lot of issues out there in addition to the bedrock issue of comportment in office. There climate change, there's treaties. I thought it was a blunder not to join the Trans-Pacific Partnership for example. Okay comportment is behavior, is behavior. It means proper behavior yes oh yes comportment yes proper behavior expected behavior presidential behavior

1:51:06 So, then the Trans-Pacific Partnership he says that is a huge mistake. Does this guy know what the Trans Pacific Partnership says? Because nobody else does! No one else seems to know! Well, he may actually have read some of it... I doubt it As a governor he might have gotten something. Yeah, I think the governors got some It's just secret documents Who's for secret documents? You don't need to know what it says This guy's a total creep. Yes, anyway I just wanted to get that out of the way yet well Just as we're talking about there like a Trump rotation thing it's it's whizzing around very quickly actually during the whole New Zealand

CHAPTER 24 / 38 Discussion

Charlottesville Transcript, Scott Adams Persuasion

The hosts review the actual transcript of Donald Trump's 2017 Charlottesville comments to show he explicitly condemned neo-Nazis and white nationalists. They note that Scott Adams is actively tweeting the transcript to combat the "fine people" media narrative. They discuss the difficulty of breaking "hypnosis" once the media has established a persistent lie.

charlottesville· fine people· scott adams· transcript· media bias· persuasion

1:51:49 initial coverage Scott Adams is on a quixotic. There it is I'll use it, on a quixotic. Yeah we now were using it yes Scott Adams is like quick exotic crusade hmm very nice quixotic Crusader redundant actually be going well it's a totally not now quixotic means that ain't working And because the mainstream continuously lies, they don't know better so I can't really call it an intentional lie but it's a main M5M lie that the president said there are good people there in the alt-right Charlottesville side. And you know Scott Adams is tweeting the illiteral translation where actually Trump said exactly the opposite. The transcript? A transcript, I'm sorry. Where you know Trump actually says... You want to read it while I am here anyway

1:52:39 Do I have it here? I have it in the... Well, Diamond and Silk played a clip of him and he starts the whole thing off by bitching about Nazis and white supremacists which everybody in the media completely ignores to the point where they're saying he's never rebuked them when he rebuked them in this statement. Yeah here so this is what Scott Adams is tweeting around So I will just read the highlighted bits that Scott Adams is tweeting. Trump, excuse me they didn't put themselves down as neo-nazis and you had some very bad people in that group but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides You had people in that group... Excuse me! I saw the same pictures as you did

1:53:25 You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them a very very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name And then the reporter jumps back in but uh...the highlighted bit right after this statement I'm not talking about the neo-nazis and the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally, but you had many people in that group other than neo-nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly now in the other group also You had some fine people But you also this is left Antifa but you also had troublemakers and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with The baseball bats you had a lot of bad people in the other group too

1:54:10 So factually, Trump did not say what people keep propagating like find people there those Nazis. Anyway Scott Adams valiantly trying to convince people to see it I don't know why he of all people cannot understand that once someone is under hypnosis It's very hard to get them out of it. He's a hypnotist! Right? Of all people Great ironic. That's a great ironic catch. Yes, that is very ironic now something else happened with it seemingly kind of who gives a crap because I don't read an interview in Breitbart It was an exclusive headline President Donald Trump colon Paul Ryan blocked subpoenas of Democrats So that's the story I would not read in a million years But they all poked out one little issue

CHAPTER 25 / 38 Discussion

Breitbart Interview, Trump Military Support Controversy

A Breitbart interview with Donald Trump is analyzed after CNN interpreted his comments about the support of police, military, and "Bikers for Trump" as a threat of violence. The hosts argue Trump was actually discussing the restraint shown by the right in the face of left-wing campus violence and investigations. They criticize the media for conflating these remarks with past statements to create a "dictator" narrative.

breitbart· cnn· bikers for trump· campus free speech· political violence· second amendment

1:55:04 bitty piece and let's turn it into President Trump saying his police and military supporters could make things very bad for his opposition. Here's the quote that he said to Breitbart. This is the president, you know the left plays a tougher game it's very funny I actually think that people on the right are tougher but they don't play it tougher okay? I can tell you I have the support of police and the support of military and the support of bikers for Trump. I have the tough people but they don't play it tough until they go to certain point then it would be very bad very bad. Abby Phillip is out front at the White House. By the way, I want this woman to come in for a second...

1:55:45 Now actually I'll read you what was actually said first and then let her come in. This was everyone, this is before the New Zealand mosque massacre took place this was in heavy rotation oh my god! And they were conflating it with other things Trump has said not on this interview but as an example well I can stand on 5th Avenue shoot anyone no one would care so they're taking this little bit... They love using that one ...and making it sound like He's threatening to use the military, the police and bikers for Trump because you know that's right up there with those other two. So here is what actually was in the article and it is just worth showing to you what the media does I don't care if you like Trump or not this is just a lie disingenuous by its very nature of omission so he's talking about Paul Ryan and what Paul Ryan wouldn't do

1:56:40 And then it says, Trump's comments came in a wider part of the conversation about how the left is more quote vicious than the right and that the left in American politics plays quote cuter and tougher. Here's the quote So here's the thing. It's so terrible what is happening, Trump said when asked by Breitbart News deputy political editor Amanda House about his anticipated executive order on campus free speech. It is about the campus free speech about violence on campuses by the left against people who want free speech Quote, you know the left plays a tougher game. It's very funny I actually think that the people on the right are tougher but they don't play it tougher Okay? I can tell you I have the support of the police The support of military The support of bikers for Trump I have the tough people But they don't play it tough until they go to certain point and then it would be very bad Very bad! But the left plays it cuter and tougher Like with all the nonsense they do in Congress All this investigation That's all they want to do is You know They do things that are nasty Republicans never played this

1:57:41 So he's talking about something completely different. He's talking about an attitude, he's actually saying look at the restraint that people have put in against the actual violence. Wasn't some Republican shot at? Like Steve Scalise almost died by someone on the left... Yeah yeah and it was some maniac who shot a bunch of Republicans playing baseball Well let's bring in Aaron Burnett's reporter to see how its interpreted over on CNNs Abby, this sounds like a threat. Well sir, a lot of people are certainly taking it that way Erin and it's not the first time that President Trump has used almost identical language to talk about his supporters in this way talking about the military the bikers for Trump and others who he says

1:58:22 are tough and tough in a very specific way. The president also implying in this quote that the left is tough too, he used this language when he was talking about Antifa saying that his supporters might be able to go up against Anitfa at a campaign rally back in September in Missouri And many people remember, back in the campaign President Trump talked about Second Amendment people. Second Amendment referring to people who advocate for gun rights in this country being able to stop Hillary Clinton from appointing judges left-leaning judges to the court if she were elected president So this is a president who has repeatedly used this kind of language sometimes playing fast and loose with his words

1:59:05 and leaving it open to interpretation for people to believe that this is a door opened to people who might want to use violence in the public sphere. The president almost never clarifies, and the White House certainly doesn't either but a lot of people raising more questions about the president's language here and why he doesn't do more to be clearer about his words if violence is not in fact what he is implying here, Erin. All right Abby thank you very much and a really good point right? If violence isn't what you're trying to talk about then why are you talking about things getting very bad when you're talking about your supporters as the police and the military as monolithic groups So you see what they've done

CHAPTER 26 / 38 Discussion

Beto O'Rourke, Cult of the Dead Cow Writings

The hosts defend Beto O'Rourke against media reports highlighting a fictional story he wrote as a teenager for the "Cult of the Dead Cow" hacking group. The story, which involved a fantasy about hitting children with a car, is characterized by the hosts as a "douchey" piece of juvenile fiction rather than evidence of psychopathy. They also note that Reuters reportedly held the story until after O'Rourke's Senate race.

beto o'rourke· cult of the dead cow· reuters· fiction· hacking· 2020 election

1:59:43 It's like, take this out of an interview that has nothing to do with him threatening anybody and then conflate it with other things he said. And now, oh! Oh dictator! Oh, it's gonna use the military! If he doesn't re-elected, he'll have the bikers for Trump go and enforce him staying in the White House. Now I'd like to do a similar job for Beto O'Rourke. I'm going to defend him a little bit So the word came down, Beto O'Rourke he was a hacker. Well he wasn't really a hacker but he was in the cult of the dead cow and he did crazy rhyme. I don't know how old is the guy? 19 18 20 it doesn't matter like okay fine but then

2:00:28 Oh, he wrote... He has very weird things. Now the controversy about these very weird things is that apparently Reuters knew he had written something odd back in the Cult of The Dead Cow days 1988 which you and I remember the cult of the dead cows like whatever it was fine You know with these were they said was a sophisticated hacking group now? Yeah there were some phone freakers and stuff in there but it was underground stuff It was alt probably alt something so the piece out so Reuters knew that there was this story out there before the Senate election is my understanding and they held back on it by request until after the race ran and now it's come out and it's you know, it's like some douchey

2:01:21 story, it's a very short story. But the way the headlines read is, oh Beto wrote about fantasizing about killing children! And so they actually will if they cite any of it they'll cite this as I neared The Young Ones... I knew, however that this happiness and sense of freedom were much too overwhelming. This happiness was mine by right—I had earned it in my dreams as I neared the young ones I put all my weight on my right foot keeping the accelerator pedal on the floor until i heard the crashing of the two children on the hood and then the sharp cry of pain from one of the two uh... I was so fascinated for a moment that when after I'd stopped my vehicle I just sat in daze sweet visions filling my head." And so that's what is published

2:02:13 So like, wow the guy's kind of creepy. He is writing stories about... he's a psycho! So let me read the next piece I was so... The last sentence, I was so fascinated for a moment that when after i had stopped my vehicle I just sat in a daze sweet visions filling my head My dream was abruptly ended when I heard a loud banging on the front window It was an old man who was using his cane to awaken me He might have been a witness to my act of love. I was not sure nor did i care it was simply ecstasy as I drove home, I envisioned myself committing more of these acts of love and after a while I had no trouble carrying them out The more people I killed the longer My dreams were I soon quit my job stayed at my house in an almost comatose state he's writing about a completely fictional thing within a fictional story

2:03:02 He says my was that words he's my love something or other was he in this car masturbating and Possibly possibly what sounds like but you know, it's like It's a dream about a dream And they just, you can't take these little pieces out of context of the whole... You can even take it out the context of Cult Of The Dead Cow. You really have to- It was 30 years ago! I know so now well is it a problem? Well Beto is on the warpath right you know that I think they're trying to do this did I I think I have three Beto clips ooh nice

CHAPTER 27 / 38 Discussion

Beto O'Rourke 2020 Campaign, Impeachment Stance

Beto O'Rourke's entry into the 2020 presidential race is discussed, including his "born to do this" comment in Vanity Fair. The hosts analyze his interview with Gail King, where he avoids a firm stance on impeaching Trump, preferring to beat him at the ballot box. They predict the Democratic strategy will shift from active impeachment to using the threat of it as a campaign tool.

beto o'rourke· gail king· cbs· vanity fair· impeachment· mueller report

2:03:42 I think is that nice? I think it's nice. I don't know, it could hurt well first of all let's start with his never going to run clip which a lot of people have picked up on I will say this not my you know yeah I see a lot of bloggers and illegal bloggers who should be licensed and podcasts that should be licensed people have run this clip because it's beta 160 minutes saying he's never gonna run. He is very adamant about it, then all of a sudden now he has to run We've heard a lot of people speculate that you and Senator Cruz may face each other again not in the Senate rematch but running for higher office What are your thoughts on running for president?

2:04:21 I don't want to do it. I will not do it. Amy and I are raising an 11 year old, a 10 year old, and a 7 year old. And we've spent the better part of the last two years not with each other missing birthdays and anniversaries in time together. Our family could not survive more of that. We need to be together. A politician lied! I know how about that. At least the politician is, I think it would be, I think the scenario or their timeline goes like this. He says this and now these cause his campaign is over the cruise thing and he's getting relaxed now he's with the fat with a wife and three there old daughters, I think not sure well he's got a bunch of kids and they're all daughters then he's, he's, he would definitely run for president because he does know man. I know guy that's got

2:05:19 wife and a bunch of daughters, and he says... He's just always trying to get out of the house because you can never win any argument. And it just shakes his head. It's like apparently horror. Hey, welcome! Hello, well I grew up around- So Beto goes home and says holy crap this is terrible this family life. I'm gonna run for president. I grew up around women and gay guys so I disagree You can win an argument, but you have to think differently. You grew up around women and gay guys? Yeah! Alright let's play now let's go to CBS To the Puff piece this is a long piece because he decides to run And everybody is all tizzy about this because I don't know by the way they keep describing me as a handsome man

2:06:10 I don't get it. He's energetic looking he's got a big Adam's apple his head as long as a horse face, he's got that kind of that upper lip That's kind of a snooty kind of that John Elway look like he's just like something stinks all the time Yeah, I don't see any at least if I'm analyzing from even trying to be you know or even gay guy trying to see if it's a good look. I can't see this guy being a handsome man, and i would like someone to explain it to me so let's play this... I'm sorry let's play the CBS clip. O'Rourke is the 13th democrat who officially joined the 2020 campaign Gail King sat down with him in Iowa and Ed O'Keefe was there for his announcements

2:06:58 Like he did in Texas, Beto O'Rourke kept a small footprint on his first day on the presidential campaign trail even driving his own car. Why'd you choose to start in this corner of the state? This is a very important part of America that isn't listened to often enough. It's his first ever trip to Iowa. Along with his name, voters are still learning what the former three-term congressman from El Paso stands for including universal health care, a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants and universal background checks for gun buyers. CBS This Morning co-host Gail King spoke with O'Rourke for his first TV sit down interview since announcing his candidacy

2:07:40 People said we had a candidate who didn't have vast political experience and maybe now this time We need somebody in the White House who has you know been around the block of few times Who has greater experience than yourself, right? And clearly you're not deterred by that. Right I mean, I guess it depends on what kind of experience or you're looking for. Um, I've got experienced hiring people creating jobs Developing the economy of the community in which I live, serving in local government with Amy helping to raise a family and finding ways to work across the aisle to get legislation passed even when I'm in the minority party. A recent poll of Iowa Democrats put O'Rourke in fifth place behind former Vice President Joe Biden who's expected to join the race next month and three senators

2:08:27 That's a decent start for the 46-year old who lost the Senate race last year. But it is the fact that he lost by only three points in Ruby Red, Texas and how he did it that has won him fans nationwide and worries other Democratic campaigns He traveled with a small team never hired consultants and raised a record $80 million dollars His popularity stems in part from his constant use of social media Even during a dental cleaning. What is it about him that maybe piques your interest? He just looks very charismatic and seems like he could really make a change President Trump said he saw O'Rourke today too I've never seen so much hand movement, is he crazy or is that just the way he acts In a new cover story for Vanity Fair magazine O'Rourke expresses extreme confidence in his chances saying quote

2:09:23 It's going to be so entertaining. I can't wait! I am born to do this, he says what an idiot. Anyway... He wants to impeach Trump but he figures that by the way this you know i got these two short clips- Is he gonna do that as president? I think so he's gonna get in there and once he's president he's going to impeach trump Which I think he's taken from Maxine Waters. Yes, exactly! When is she gonna throw her hat in the ring? Anyway here's Beto mouthing off on impeachment... That if there was not collusion there was at least the effort to collude with a foreign power beyond the shadow of a doubt that if there was not obstruction of justice there certainly was the effort to obstruct justice whether thats firing James Comey the principal investigator into what happened in the 2016 election

2:10:10 Or in the light of day tweeting to your Attorney General, as President Trump did to end the Russia investigation. Because you know Speaker Pelosi has gone on record she does not think that's a way to go at this particular time How Congress chooses to address those set effects and findings which I believe we are soon to see from the Mueller report is up to them Two things. One... Hey, where's the Mueller report? That's coming up. One thing. Gayle has become the new Barbara Walters and that's interesting Yes I've noticed this too they're pushing her in that direction yes yes so and i think that's uh it's okay you know It's fine, I think she always has kind of a pensive

2:10:55 painful look. Painful, yeah! Whatever the guy's gonna say is gonna hurt her. Well she's got to make people cry now and then she's true Barbara Walters. I'm in total pain here's here's the analysis of what Beto just said interesting to hear that answer Andrew what is the message that he's sending to voters and Democrats in Congress with that position I think that's something you're going to hear from a lot of 2020 Democratic candidates, this idea that, you know, I don't want to focus on impeachment right now. I'm not serving in Congress. You know, that's for those folks to decide. I'd rather be him at the ballot box in 2020 which is what—I think that's what Beto O'Rourke is trying to convey. Of course last year when he was running against Ted Cruz in that race

2:11:34 He was running as a very, very unapologetic progressive. Which the conventional wisdom was in a state like Texas that kind of politics would not sell well to voters. Well it sold pretty well in the sense that he came within three points of beating Senator Ted Cruz in a red state so I think he's going be able to break through some of these more established norms of Democratic politics going forward and I think you saw that reflected in his answer this idea that he would rather just like all the others would beat the president at the ballot box Which is exactly what this show predicted would happen with this impeachment talk. It's to keep it in, to keep the ball in the air, impeach, impeach, impeach... Oh we can't let it's not gonna work let's just beat him at the ballot box so that everybody, or the public at large is thinking oh that guy was going to be impeached I won't vote for him Before we take a break I've been waiting for news to see what happened as you know

CHAPTER 28 / 38 Discussion

Gimlet Media Unionization, Podcast Industry Economics

Following Spotify's $230 million acquisition of Gimlet Media, the staff has decided to unionize with the Writers Guild of America East. The hosts argue that unionizing a podcast network is a "beginning of the end" move that will destroy profitability due to rigid job descriptions and high overhead. They contrast this corporate model with the "Value for Value" model, which they claim is more sustainable for the medium.

gimlet media· spotify· unionization· writers guild of america east· podcasting· profitability

2:12:31 John and I were part of the first podcasting network company where over the course of 10 years, I certainly discovered and analyzed and have been able to say you cannot monetize the network. It's not the way to go with podcasting and it's been entertaining although somewhat disheartening that we're seeing the exact same mistakes being made. It's just it's a repeat, it's a cycle, it's the same over and over deja vu all over again so when Gimlet Media, the podcasting pioneer were purchased by Spotify for a purported 230 million dollars, I was very curious to see how long it would take before certain shows that they have in their roster which are not getting any of the money because it's how works. One or two shows get all the money and everyone gets little pittance and you kind of... It's just how it works. It's the flaw in the idea And that you can go outside of that and do you have paywalls? How do you lock it down? All these things are problematic

2:13:34 I did not expect what actually did happen, but i knew it was going to implode somehow. And I think you of all people John will appreciate this. I am reading... Okay, I think there were other people and other companies before you but I like the way you're reading it And in keeping with gimlets innovative ethos we are proud. I'm not gonna say it

2:14:14 We, the producers engineers hosts editors and reporters are the people at Gimlet who make the podcasts. We come from public and commercial radio print and digital media the music industry Hollywood advertising academia in many other fields we work hard to create some of the best audio in the world Our editorial branded teams have won numerous awards, our shows have been optioned for television and film. We've helped the company branch out into voice skills and advertising and our listeners number in the millions! We love our work and we're deeply invested in Gimlet's success

2:14:50 As Spotify's reported $230 million acquisition of Gimlet Media makes clear, however... ...Gimlet is no longer the small scrappy operation memorably documented on the first season of Startup! We have decided to unionize. Our union is an expression of passion for what we do and a proactive effort to work with management to shape the future of the company. It is important for us to solidify the things that made Gimlet a great place to work, and to address whatever issues may arise through collective bargaining! We will work towards a contract that includes but it's not limited too!" I'll stop here for a second... So What happened? And they've joined The Writers Guild Of America East. What happened is

2:15:38 Everyone saw all the money come in. Of course, a couple guys get a ton of money because this is not an investment it was a sale It was an acquisition so someone made some money probably the original investors angels But there are people now who disproportionately have more money but as you can read in this unionization document The people feel that they were responsible So they're going to bargain And they're going to put the following in the contract. Consistent and transparent job descriptions and salary bands, straightforward processes for advancement and promotion, clear and fair policies around contractor employment, concrete and ambitious diversity initiatives, equitable processes for protecting employees' intellectual property... Good luck!

2:16:26 clear disciplinary termination and resignation policies, and employee input in company decision-making. That's the end of that! It is not possible to make podcasts in any profitable manner with union jobs so you'll have a union writer... I mean you can do it... The key word there is profitable? Yes profitable It's not possible. Not possible! The market isn't there, the times have changed it is an open network you cannot if and even if you think you're gonna do this by putting it behind a Spotify paywall we've done that we know the numbers yeah makes it worse

2:17:15 It doesn't work. You have to do these things yourself and they've fallen into a very old trap and cliche, and this is going to be... They're gonna be walkouts because the money won't be there! Eventually Spotify will go, This is great we love these five shows but we really gotta cut everything Well good luck then. And good luck- Yeah they're gonna cut uh 90% of all shows Yeah, they have a lot of shows and they're going to end up with two. I want to say this has nothing to do with unions. I'm not against unions. Specifically this sector...I think I have some standing Billy Bones in the troll room

2:18:00 This sector, you cannot make a show profitable. Certainly not a network profitable with unionization I have to be able to edit No! Now there's...I have to go an editor Engineer? Oh I can't do the stream I gotta talk to an engineer You gotta have reporters Okay reporters specific category for what they're doing if they're doing it that way Intellectual property on what you write Good luck That's not viable in today's world. So I thought you'd find that kind of humorous. Yeah, actually saw that they must be having nothing but trouble to have now they have to unionize because the course unionizing podcasts? I mean this is like unionizing You know that you got a family of four and the kids decide to unionize I mean

2:18:56 What am I supposed to do? My judicial allowance is too low. But you know what, if the kids unionize at least I'll know who to talk to have the trash taken out. It's not all that bad it could have some benefit Yeah, maybe. But yeah this is the beginning of the end for Gimlet. There's a bunch of these operations... John what's worse is you know just like somehow we got into this vibe with podcasting where we do all things in post. We do all the post-processing I'm Phil Spector my wall of sound! I've got every mic individually Oh someone said um I'm cutting that out

2:19:34 So all the love is removed from the shows, all the human aspects are gone. The spontaneity is gone. But now there's going to be an industry... I read all of the podcast business journal, the podcast news, the podcast pickled thing whatever no that was a while ago but all these podcasts newsletters and And they love this unionized, oh my god now we all you yeah! Now we've got an industry. I'm a podcast editor. I should make $60 an hour Well, you're not gonna get hired very much It's just the fact So... We recommend Just giving the value for value model a try I'm gonna show myself old by donating to no agenda imagine all those people who could do that Oh yeah, that'd be fab

CHAPTER 29 / 38 Discussion

Small Batch Donations, Scrummet Cure

The hosts read a series of smaller donations, including one from a fifth-generation rancher in North Dakota. A humorous exchange involves a "cure for the scrummet" using CBD oil from Lavender Blossoms. They acknowledge various donors from London, Wisconsin, and Alberta.

north dakota· rancher· cbd oil· lavender blossoms· donations· small batch

2:20:24 Let's see what we got here. We have a few people to thank, including Anonymous right at the top from Germantown Tennessee $101 and 16 cents. He is first time donor give him up de-douching. Eric Hallbretter $100 Sir Rick in Arlington, Washington 6996 comes in with Baron Mark Tanner at 6789 and Whittier and Terry Wentz in Langley Washington 6006 small boob donation Sebastian de Stigler 5678. I think it's the stichter. He is in Holland somewhere? It's Sebastian the stichter not the stigler. And family

2:21:20 Marshall Bass in the US somewhere, thanks. He says 5555 Chase Jacobson and noon in Maryland 60 I'm sorry, 5555 and in a note. Okay? And there was a reason Yeah Yes you had a reason to read it yes what she got as a reason to read it there's a reason This is my first donation please deduce me okay, we can do that You've been deduced once jobs karma will give that to him at the end. I'm a fifth-generation rancher

2:21:55 in North Dakota. If this summer is dry again, some moisture would be great but currently we don't need any more snow." I love the show but I haven't been listening more than a year and so I could go for another 11 years. Keep up the great work! I haven't been listening long enough to know how... by the way it's handwritten ...how you stand on the land owners and gun rights but i hope we agree on these rights Points you don't need to read this and don't expect it rev. I'm not where am i reading this? Oh, he says at the end though sincerely chase I Think I'm a millennial but I don't think it fits in and I prefer to use oh Okay Sorry

2:22:41 That was not a great note. But I'm glad you stopped for it! Well, did you deduce him? Yes she did. Sir Luke the Baron of London usually i put it in there for research... You know what it was? I probably didn't preview the note as always grateful keep up with good work sir Luke of London 5510 Clayton uh Dunavant Dunavant in Greenfield Wisconsin 5333 and he's got some commentary for somebody is it there's one of those call-outs we have I was called out by sir cherry crumb pie as a douchebag which i totally am for not donating since leaving Austin five years ago for sunny Milwaukee oh he he's an australian. We haven't looked back since

2:23:28 Huh, huh. I humbly request a de-douching and a... Right let me do the de-douching first. You've been de-douched And call out Ron A just like Sir Cherry Crumb Pie did as a douchebag. He introduced me to the show in 2012 and my recollection has never donated! What a douche! It's not us saying this by the way, it's... No not us at all no. Yeah we got nothing to do with it. Dame Jamie hey 5317 Wait, hold on. Hold on! It says here... Happy anniversary to husband Sir Matt Hatter from Dame Jamie Sorry you hit your head on the bird feeder I don't know why but i felt that code needed to be put into the show I think what happened she moved a bird feeder and that's how they met No They've been around together You can tell And he bashed his head against it

2:24:35 move the bird feeder and he got on a tiff. And so she's, she's apologizing." Well that's very sweet. Sir John Knight of the St Patrick in Heber Springs Arkansas 5317 Clay Elm. He says happy Saint Pats it is after all he is the knight of st patrick so he is an important peerage member today Is that true? It says Sir John Knight of St. Patrick. Yeah, I know it does say that but I just want to be cutthroat in it. He's the patron saint of engineers. Clay Alchemist in Grand Rapids Michigan 5188. Eric Schmidt 5150. Matthew Smith 51. Joel Deruan in Savannah Georgia 50. Chris Lewinsky and Sherwood Park Alberta 50. These are all $50 donors name and locations. Paige Snakes in Amsterdam

2:25:27 Anonymous Scrumeter. Wait a minute, tell Adam I'm finally feeling better my hot water bill was very high last month or i'd be able to donate more! I consulted Sir Kyle at Lavender Blossoms regarding a cure for the scrumet he suggests his new CBD with avocado oil and sure enough it worked no more scrummeting lavenderblossoms.org all right John Camp in Antlers, Oklahoma. And last but not least Sir Jerry Wingenroth in Saugus, California. I did get a note from somebody that I thought was going to get in here and I don't know if it did. It's not the dairy—I may read Derek Burd's note later but there is another note that I thought was going to be a make good and I don't have it

CHAPTER 30 / 38 Discussion

No Agenda Meetups, Miami and Sydney Reports

Reports from a "mini-meetup" in Miami and upcoming events in Frankfurt and Atlanta are shared. The hosts discuss the diverse demographics of No Agenda listeners, ranging from "swamp people" in Louisiana to pilots, dentists, and "spooks." They emphasize the positive social atmosphere of these gatherings.

miami· sydney· frankfurt· atlanta· swamp people· eagle scouts· meetups

2:26:22 I do have a report from the Miami mini meetup, which i was unaware of. Oh yeah there was a mini-meet up. Yes ITM says Craig Kilo Bravo One Yankee Yankee Echo 73's just had a great Miami ITM toast of Prosecco with Viscountess Patricia Worthington of Biscayne Bay and Baron Craig Cutner visiting from his territory of Northeast Georgia our hostess was Andrea O'Hagan rising producer Dame Wannabe fantastic And they sent the little pictures. Thank you very much for that Make sure when you have a meetup or if your organizing one, or want to organize one You go to noagendameetups

2:27:00 Winneneche.com, noagendameetups.com and you will see that today I'm sorry it was probably yesterday in Sydney March 17th there was a meetup so i guess they had it already and everyone's asleep so maybe we'll hear from them how that went march 23 Frankfurt Deutschland and April 20th in Atlanta That will be the 420 meetup in Atlanta so probably already happened unless they're all in a drunken stupor these Sydney Australia meet up March 17th the 23rd Frankfurt Germany and Atlanta on the 20th of April fantastic this is very good these meetups it's good. It's good for the soul you know The Keeper initially I said yeah, you want to come to me that I don't know

2:27:49 But once she went to one, she's like these people are phenomenal. She just loved the people who come to these meetups that's you! That's you people Yeah, did I tell you about the swamp people who came up from Louisiana? Yes. You did. I don't know if it was on the show Nothing was on the show think I talked about it was think I forgot to tell you during that at the Austin possible That's a problem and I do remember his name and he brought us two kids They drove eight hours up in eight hours back And they said covered with lichen no He said we're from the swamp So we're swamp people. Anyhow, the kids had like huge like big ruffian hair with a big dreadlock coming out of the side and you know wearing... They were sure they weren't from DC Well that could have been That would be true Swamp People Yeah but it's just interesting pilots teachers dentists

2:28:45 Dudes named Ben LG lot of dudes all the LGBTQ Colors Eagle Scouts tons of Eagle Scouts and sometimes people are all of the above Marines. Yes, it's a fabulous group some spooks to Identify my in the at the Austin meetup one of the Mike contacts that they spotted at least three Oh sure Okay, so we need some jobs and other karma. And then we do have a nighting and we got some other stuff. So let's roll it! Jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. Annandee today is the 17th of March 2019

CHAPTER 31 / 38 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Sir Spudmighty

Daniel Galloway is knighted as "Sir Spudmighty" for his contribution of $1,000 or more. The hosts perform the traditional knighting ceremony, granting him a seat at the "Coveted Roundtable" and detailing the perks of the No Agenda peerage, including signet rings and certificates.

knighting· sir spudmighty· signet ring· peerage· roundtable

2:29:38 Happy birthday to Justin Dugid. He turns 36 years old on the 19th and Sir Walkman of Buckeye becomes, will be on the wrong side of 40 by tomorrow so happy birthday to you from all your friends here at The Best Podcast in the Universe! Okay now we have well just one knighting so this is good Daniel Galloway and I'll get my blade up here if you can get your blade John. Very good alright Thank you very much for your support of the No Agenda show and the amount of $1,000 or more. This gives you a seat at The Coveted Roundtable Daniel and a name to covet as your own as a knight And I hereby pronounce the Sir Spudmighty Knight of The No Agenda Roundtable! And for you we have Hookers & Blow, Red Boys & Chardonnay

2:30:30 Cooper's Pale Ale and Kanga Burgers. We got Trophies in Tire Smoke, we got Harlots & Howl Dolls Redheads & Ryes, we've got Ginger ale and Gerbils Breast Milk & Pablum, Geishas & Sake Rubeness Woman & Rose Beer & Blunts Organic Macaroni & Plasticizers And Mutton & Meat So if you could take yourself, your knighting ass over to the NoahGeneration.com slash rings website Eric DeShill will gladly help you out and get you the right size and get you your signet ring And your sealing wax and your certificate and make sure you tweet out a picture once you receive it Then we have couple titles here Title changes

2:31:10 We've got Sir Walkman of Buckeye becoming a Baron today of the Ohio Territory. We congratulate him with that and also Sir Nubbin becomes a Baronet, and we congratulate him with this upgraded status This is all a part of our peerage system no agenda peerage.itm.im slash peerage or dvorak.org slash peerage dot htm and I believe we have someone working on updating the map it was a little bit of out-of-date our Peerage map there's a lot that...we got some hefty peerage

CHAPTER 32 / 38 Discussion

Boeing 737 MAX 8, MCAS System Disclosure

The hosts examine a February 2018 CNBC interview with a pilot spokesperson who warned about Boeing's failure to disclose the MCAS system to pilots. They argue that the "secret" nature of the system was known within the industry over a year before the recent crashes. The discussion highlights an emergency airworthiness directive issued by the FAA that should have alerted all global operators to the procedural changes required for the aircraft.

boeing· 737 max· mcas· faa· allied pilots association· airworthiness directive

2:31:52 Hefty peerage. Indeed I got two things that like to share Some updated information on the 737 MAX 8, MAX 9 aircraft Ah yes And this is very interesting One of our producers sent me a YouTube video from CNBC and this... let me see who was it? He wants to be anonymous i think This video was posted on February 12th, 2018. So over a year ago... Over a year ago!

2:32:34 And it was on CNBC and on the microphone is Captain Tejer, T-A-G-E-R. He is the spokesperson for the Allied Pilots Association I believe he flies for American Airlines again over one year ago predating the Kenya crash predating the Lion Air crash from Indonesia, important to remember. And here's what was discussed on CNBC. Frankly the Wall Street Journal a high-ranking Boeing official said that they had made a decision to not disclose additional details about a new system that Phil Rila talked about it's called the MCAS system

2:33:17 due to the fact that they assumed that the average pilot would be inundated with this information and they just thought it wasn't appropriate. And, uh... That's not only professionally insulting its a little bit ethically insulting but that's okay because safety culture has many layers in it And now that information has been provided us and we're digesting it and understanding it better. Along with the, I saw in a New York Times report the NTSB in Indonesia made similar claims that this information and this complex emergency that we're starting to learn more about This may have been one of the issues that needs to be looked at closer. But, the good news is and I want to make clear that 737, the old NG, previous version and Max they're safe aircrafts We fly them every day and our families are on them but what makes it safer today is now we know more about the system So over a year ago

2:34:13 Boeing was pressured into releasing all the information about the dreaded MCAS system, which is being blamed on the Indian. Indonesia apparently also had that information now if they disseminated that to their pilots I don't know, but i do know that when you have something called the an emergency airworthiness directive that goes through all throughout all layers of the aviation industry and everyone reads these and knows about these. And this captain talks a lot about how um you know how this how the safety of the system works multiple places where redundancy is built in to make sure everyone knows when something has changed

2:34:57 And indeed, such an airworthiness directive emergency directive was issued. Captain there are a lot of people from the outside who are now analyzing this and trying to figure out... And by the way when they're talking about analyzing this is not this is pre any crash Before any crash the Wall Street Journal broke the story saying hey Boeing has changed something and they haven't really been open with pilots. This is a situation where the FAA needs to take more control and tell the manufacturers what needs to be done or at least be providing more oversight but we're all on the outside you're on the inside, you have a very good handle on what's happening. What do you think is the proper solution to this? Does the FAA need to step in more or is this something that industry can manage on its own?" Well I think the FAA stepped right up as we were hoping for Boeing put out a notification to crews about this and then the FAA stepped it up and said now we're gonna issue an emergency airworthiness directive so they elevated it quickly they were decisive

2:35:54 and that got our attention, it got our company's attention. And very quickly we received information from Boeing that was very helpful so we're pleased and look forward to that type of team effort going forward. We encourage Boeing to continue to join us and step into the circle of trust and let's get this done right! So if we have this emergency airworthiness directive, which when I was living in the Netherlands flying helicopters there were FAA directives came out about aircraft that that I knew of or maybe it was with flying myself and if it was you know things. You have to immediately

2:36:34 make the adjustments, changes whether it's a part or it's a procedure. So somewhere broke down if indeed this is to blame for these crashes but it seems like Boeing initially didn't do very well but over a year ago this information was known And it was known through the proper channels, to my knowledge in aviation. So every pilot aviating one of these aircraft would have to know this issue doesn't mean that with the training they had could actually save them from the issue that's separate but it's not like there was a secret yeah well what you said in essence is that while every pilot may have known every news media outlet apparently didn't and these stories are phony yes

CHAPTER 33 / 38 Discussion

Boeing vs. Airbus, Black Box Analysis in France

The hosts express suspicion over the decision to send the Ethiopian Airlines black box to France for analysis, given the intense commercial rivalry between Boeing and Airbus. They discuss the technical nature of flight software, noting that modern aircraft like the 737 MAX are heavily dependent on computer overrides. A host recalls flying helicopters that ran on Windows NT 3.1, illustrating the "embedded" nature of aviation technology.

boeing· airbus· black box· ethiopian airlines· france· windows nt

2:37:23 Yes, so we're getting phony news is that should have been if these reporters were doing their job. They would have known about this I mean, obviously it's been took place a year ago. They make it sound like this is an overnight thing. So would you think that maybe is the error bus behind the bad reporting? Because the result is all the planes have been grounded. Well what I don't like about this is that the black box now this happened in a country and African country aligned with France being colonial, an empire and they still run a lot in Africa no one ever talks about that

2:37:59 The black box, the Boeing... We talked about it a lot. Oui is not everybody! Oui is us! The black box did not go to Boeing. It went to France He went to the enemy! The enemy has the black box. So, the French are going to analyze this. Of course they know how to analyze a black box They know how to do it but when you have this huge war between Boeing and Airbus You'd think that there would be a little more pushback on hey could we please have it before you start tampering around with the data? I don't like that Yeah, that's a good point. It's bad! This is not okay I think it should have come to the Boeing and well certainly the FAA and the US authority should be involved in the opening and extraction of the data

2:38:49 So well, so we'll see that it changes everything for me changes everything if they knew about it now does that mean that some Crappier airlines don't have these directives. Well, we haven't seen Southwest or American Airlines have this issue just yet They I do know what the update is The planned software update is is indeed changing some behavior in the MCAS system which is all a You know, I had a back in the day when I had money living in the UK. I had a Jaguar XJS 12 cylinder six liter whatever it was and the car was very powerful. Probably not a great car to buy if you care about maintenance Well not only that but The entire car only stayed on the road because of the computer systems

2:39:40 If you turned it off, you couldn't manage it. You could not manage the vehicle It was too powerful The way distribution was off The whole thing was basically put together and your driving was maintained by the computer And that's what they did with this I would say new, it's almost a new type of aircraft because they change substantial... Change the design of the wing and the engines and the placement of the engines. And thus all your center-of-gravity angle of attack all these different things change It should be seen as an entirely new aircraft and they think they got to skimp on certification etc., Because they're building it on existing frame

2:40:19 But that still doesn't mean that if you put the information out there, that pilots should know how to handle it. So the update will no longer...will only cite...if so if it... If these...If the system believes that you're doing something wrong and it tries to override you, It will override but only one cycle. They won't do it continuously. So that should give the pilots more chance to figure out what's going on. But is it possible that Boeing slipstreamed a fix into the software for this system, into all the planes at some time just before the first crash? Anything's possible. Do they do that? I don't believe that they do updates like Tesla over-the-air

2:41:05 It's my understanding that like most updates within aviation, it happens in a certified shop. Certainly if it's avionics and the avionic specialists will do what they receive as all kinds of sign offs and approvals for updating. It's not something just happened overnight. Is it possible? How often does this thing get I mean, I have my printer, my Epson printer keeps asking me oh we got an update to you know this is up to that On a weekly basis. These updates hopefully don't happen, don't occur very often in my... Look I remember flying the Eurocopter a lot and the Eurocopter when you start up the Eurocopter which is nice aircraft although it has counter rotation so you have to use left instead of right pedal that you're used to when taking off and landing

2:41:56 It starts up with Windows NT 3.1 so on the flight screen you see that pop-up and you have to wait part of the startup procedure is waiting for Windows NT 3.1 to boot honestly I never liked that it never felt good to me because it does manage engine things but this Typically these are very low level or maybe it's the opposite high-level, you know. It's very tightly compiled its hardware It's an isn't this you don't see a disk running You know that runs these type of systems now it's all embedded Embedded instructions details we do need more details But the first one is this is not an unknown and it's not like a magical thing that happened So I only have one thing maybe left Okay

CHAPTER 34 / 38 Discussion

Tucker Carlson, Bubba The Love Sponge Tapes

The hosts play old audio of Tucker Carlson on the "Bubba the Love Sponge" show, which has been used in a recent campaign to remove him from Fox News. They characterize the tapes as typical "shock jock" banter from 20 years ago and criticize the media for treating casual conversation as a major news scandal. They also note the repetitive "hypocrisy loop" in White House press briefings regarding the disavowal of various comments.

tucker carson· bubba the love sponge· fox news· msnbc· media hit job· sarah huckabee sanders

2:42:46 I mean, I have a bunch of stuff left but i do want to get this out of the way. You know if you haven't noticed there's a concerted effort to get Tucker Carlson off the air yes and so somebody apparently years ago he used it like to do Bubba The Love Sponge kind of uh... Howard Stern Do you have new information on this story? This is pretty old No, I don't have new information. Well actually the story is continuing so it's not like new and there are protesters in front of Fox studios going on... no but what i do have and it is old because its stuff from Bubba The Love Sponge from 20 years ago But this has been played on everything! Everything from CNN everyone has played this clip We've never played it Okay And I also cut out all the music For good reason

2:43:37 Well, I just thought we should play it. As a point of information we should listen to Tucker say nasty things about women and all that other stuff that got everybody in a tizzy. We have not played it. It has been played to death. Different versions of it. version that's a little long but it doesn't have the music and all the interludes and crazy stuff going on. So something only The No Agenda Show can do is play you the raw source material, right? Well yeah well whatever it is... You're supposed to say sure. When I say right when I say right when I say right you say sure. You can stop if you find this too gross to play. When I say write you say sure

2:44:24 Sure. Do you run into Martha Stewart in the hallway over there? No. Alexis Stewart, we run into her all the time She seems like a... she seems awful Yeah she is awful They're very c*****y She seems extremely I'd like to hear that word out of... oh yeah he..I just stepped over me He's....she seems what now go ahead She does seem a little c****** And you said it and I'm just agreeing with ya I don't use that word Right I love for Tucker Carlson Tonight on MSNBC A girl who comes across kinda c****** Hey didn't get fired from MSNBC specifically for this stuff

2:45:13 It's possible, but I got fired for this people forget that he was at MSNBC during this era even before CNN This was yeah. This wasn't the MSNBC first and then he went to CNN or so the other way Yeah, then you went to Fox I mean I heard her I I mean like now I'm a Brent fan So okay, I'm stating my bias right out front here But I heard her on with him and I just wanted it give for the spanking she said actually want Gotta be honest. I don't like her and I wouldn't vote to confirm or if I were a US senator But I do feel sorry for in that way, I feel sorry for unattractive women I mean something they did you know? Yeah if you took every Celebrity now think he controls it pretty tightly but if you took every celebrity who's been on Howard Stern You could do this to everybody because that's kind of what this bubble the love sponge is

2:46:07 You could because they encourage it on these shows. Yeah, you're supposed to be a douche yeah you have to play any more of it I think you get the idea but it goes on and he says nothing good about anybody and so they're compiling this is like one of three or four of these things that go on forever yeah okay just got one that will skip then go to this clip which is the press conference which I think was hilarious Because this is the second or third time. This has come up in the same press conference with poor Sarah Huckabee Having to answer this funny I think hilarious questions good media is completely off the rails that be even giving a crap about casual conversation question for you But also have a follow-up to a colleague because I didn't hear you actually answered a question So yes, or no does the president truly believe that Democrats hate Jews?

2:46:59 I am not going to comment on a potentially leaked document. and laid out clearly his position on this matter. Democrats have had a number of opportunities to condemn specific comments, and have refused to do that. That's a question frankly I think you should ask Democrats what their position is since they're unwilling to call this what it is and call it out by name and take actual action against members who've done things like the Republicans have done when they've had the same opportunity. I want to ask about Paul Manafort but I just want to be very clear You are not answering the question Is there a reason?

CHAPTER 35 / 38 Discussion

Al Gore, Climate Change Statistics

Al Gore appears on CNN to claim that extreme weather events have quadrupled and that 99% of scientists now agree on climate change. The hosts mock Gore's "tell"—a fake laugh—when he discusses "fooling people." They argue that the statistics are based on relabeling normal weather events as "climate-related" to drive a global carbon tax agenda.

al gore· cnn· climate change· mother nature· extreme weather· carbon tax

2:47:45 Yeah, you know this this out of the cycle of it's the hypocrisy loop Well, you didn't do didn't disavow that well. You didn't disavow that we didn't go fast enough on there You didn't say this is it's all so tiring It's really bad to media in this country is just it's not Do they where's this news and this ah well I have some then now this could be our final Yesterday he had a big conference in Atlanta. Atlanta is home of CNN who shows up on Brooke, CNN's show Al Gore and this is the day after the children got no media coverage This is very sad children got no media coverage children could it and as you know they played hooky from school

2:48:41 And, you know it was very hopeful for everybody. But luckily we got Al Gore on to fill us in there's some updates the numbers have changed a little bit things are much better for the climate change movement Green New Deal and I think we could have a little laugh as we listen to what he has to say and this is what would call a tell-fest What does Al Gore tell when he's lying? It's a little cough i believe...It's a laugh It's a little, yeah fake little laugh. Well buckle in Mr Vice President despite all the science all the warnings there are still skeptics at the highest level of government to what do you attribute that? Now I like what Brooke is doing here she's trying to say the highest level of government she's trying to say Trump but she wants him to say Trump

2:49:29 Well, I don't think that there are... Obviously there's no basis for doubting what Mother Nature is telling us now. It's beyond consensus of 99% of the scientists just listen to... Oh! Hold on hold on new numbers alert alert it's now beyond The 99% consent consensus of scientists doesn't even say climate scientists. We've gone just scientist society beyond 99 what the mother nature is telling us now it's beyond The consensus of 99% of the scientists just listen to Mother Nature and the climate related extreme weather events have quadrupled in recent years here in the US alone. I like this statistic, that climate-related extreme weather events have quadrupled Well that's not that there were more horrific weather events they're just labeled as climate change extreme weather events

2:50:31 It's not this there's no more or less than you would have expected. It's just the labeling is different But he says it in a cool way and so I have quadrupled in recent years here in the US alone and Less than nine years we've had 17 once-in-a-thousand-year events, and I wish we could have a list of those they keep on coming And they keep on getting worse The old strategy of trying to fool people into disbelieving the evidence in front of their own eyes. When he laughs like that, his tell... you know he's really laughing about how HE is fooling people! That's why he can't contain himself! People are getting worse so

2:51:12 The old strategy of trying to fool people into disbelieving the evidence in front of their own eyes is failing. And we're crossing a tipping point now, Brooke. We're seeing many Republicans change their positions and join the growing bipartisan consensus and the debate's not about the science that debates long since over The debate now is about the best ways to move as fast as we can to solve this crisis. Okay, we all know that best way is to pay Al Gore.

CHAPTER 36 / 38 Discussion

Paris Climate Accord, 2020 Election Cycle

Al Gore points out that the United States cannot legally withdraw from the Paris Climate Accord until the day after the 2020 presidential election. The hosts find this timing highly suspicious, suggesting the agreement was structured to influence the U.S. election cycle. They note that President Obama joined the deal without Senate ratification by claiming it was not a formal treaty.

paris climate accord· barack obama· 2020 election· treaty· withdrawal

2:51:50 This is very nice. We have a strategy for getting Trump elected or voted out of office, it's a very important one and has to do with the Paris Climate Accord I did not know what he was about to tell us... I guess you can say it's true what he is saying, listen. But what about the leader of all Republicans? The president himself? If inaction continues for the next two maybe six years under a Trump White House What concerns you? What is one immediate consequence on climate? Well actually In some might call perverse way

2:52:36 I think the fact that Donald J. Trump has become the global face of climate denial is actually encouraging a lot more people to join the cause, helping bring about solutions more rapidly He cannot withdraw from the Paris Agreement by the way legally The first date we could is day after the next presidential election So the fate of this issue is not in his hands, it's in our hands. And a large and growing bipartisan majority in this country is now saying definitively to politicians and office holders It's time to act and the sooner the better, the bolder the better Now its meaningless

2:53:23 But what he's saying is true as President Obama signed and formally joined the Paris deal in 2016 arguing at the time that Senate ratification was not required because it was not a formal treaty. And that's why its meaningless, but as a result The US will continue to be part of the agreement until November 5th 2020 The first date that the u.s.. Can formally withdraw Which is in 2020 the day after the election. I think this... Holy crap! First of all you get clip of the day for discovering this. Oh, well thank you very much. I would be nothing without my producers. Yeah, well somebody found it for ya. No, I clip all these stuff. I get a few but not as many as you do The point is that It's almost though it was a setup.

CHAPTER 37 / 38 Discussion

Climate Strike, Training Child Activists

The hosts discuss the "Climate Strike" led by youth activists like Greta Thunberg and Haven Coleman. Al Gore admits to "training" Coleman through his Climate Reality Project when she was 11 years old. The hosts compare this to the "Hitlerjugend" or other historical movements that used "brainwashed drones" to advance political and financial goals.

greta thunberg· haven coleman· climate strike· al gore· brainwashing· child protective services

2:54:17 It's a perfect setup. Why would the worldwide agreement have anything to do with our election cycle? Coincidence?! I think not. Now the third one will blow your mind even more what have we seen? We've seen children being abused and becoming spokesholes for this movement, for this financial movement because the ultimate goal is carbon a price on carbon a carbon tax globally money money money money and if you just want to look for those of you who are new you should go to the Bingits go to bingit.com and look for Al Gore, Maurice Strong Carbon Exchange and you can learn about the financial motive that Al Gore at least seemed to have when starting all this up. And who Maurice strong is etc so we've taken these children

2:55:09 put the fear of God into them. We have made them believe in climate change and they're all going to die, we have report after report and this most recent one if we don't do anything with that within 12 years then we're all going to die it's the genesis of The Green New Deal it's why children are depressed and this truancy is the climate strike which was on Friday didn't get much ink or air time because the New Zealand mosque massacre, but the children still went out there. They're still being made to be very afraid of climate change aka global warming while they stand in the cold wrapped up in their sweaters, their mittens and their hats

2:55:50 Greta Thornburg has been nominated. She's the now 15 year old who has been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize for her work, she is a trained child it's like a circus she's been trained by her parents who are globalists, who are activists, who are in on the deal And now listen to what Al Gore has to say about the children. Young people were in the vanguard of that civil rights movement and it always has been so, and where climate is concerned it's especially true because these young people are going to live longer and live with the consequences of the climate crisis longer. They've studied it in school they understand most of them very clearly

2:56:35 In fact, I'm very proud that one of the graduates of our climate reality project, Young Haven Coleman went through our training program a few years ago in Denver at the age of 11. And she is one of the co-leaders of this student school strike movement in the U.S.. So he trained an 11 year old child like a circus animal to Talk this way and is now positioned as one of the leaders of this school strike. Where's Child Protective Services? That's a very good question because this is, this is not okay you're training eleven-year olds

2:57:14 In a lie. This is the classic maneuver, this is the young Nazis. The Communist Party they were all the same. Yes! The Hitlerjugend Yeah, the Hitlerjugend that's what you want... I'm not gonna say stupid but yes stupid 10 and 11 year olds who don't know what the hell's going on because their brain hasn't fully formed and your get them your brainwash them into these you know you got Al Gore there training kids to be activists is really inexcusable. His notion that it's these 10, 11 year olds who were behind the civil rights movement which is how he started that all. It was bull crap! Just take a look at the pictures in Birmingham and elsewhere there are no 10-year olds or 11-year olds in there. He didn't say ten years old, he said young people. Even then maybe some 19 year olds but young people to me as somebody under 18

2:58:11 30 more seconds on the clip. And boy, are they articulate and bright and persuasive. And programmed! They're passionate about this. And one of them said I'm 16 years old and on school strike today but I'm warning you all in 2020 I am voting we're coming for those who aren't helping to solve this crisis. Alright there it is Al Gore has spoken they're coming for you the children are coming for you and they're trained specialists so yeah

CHAPTER 38 / 38 Discussion

Show Outro, Ant Invasion Anecdote

The show concludes with a final sign-off from Austin and Silicon Valley. A host shares a bizarre closing anecdote about an "ant invasion" and the "peppery" taste of accidentally eating an ant. The episode ends with a music mix featuring contributions from Bill Walsh and Sir Jeff Smith.

austin· silicon valley· ants· bill walsh· jeff smith· podcasting

2:58:55 Brainwashed drones sad, but so it is that's our deconstruction for today I think you got your value and I certainly feel Valuable today. We did a lot we've got to the bottom of some things more questions, but the news is not your friend It's another way of saying it and coming to you from downtown Austin Texas still hipster central The end of South by Southwest. If you're looking for us, we are the capital of the drone star state We're in FEMA region number six in the governmental maps And I'm coming to you from the 5x9 Cluedio in the common law condo In the morning everybody!

2:59:37 I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where this effort was a little late today, I am John C. Dvorak We return on Thursday with another episode of the Best Podcast in the Universe Remember us at dvorak dot org slash n-a Until then Adios Novos and such A special thanks to Bill Walsh Lee O. LePuke and Sir Jeff Smith for our end of show mixes I got ants

3:00:31 I don't know if we had ants. We had ant invasion, uh... I was thinking if you desiccated a big pile of ants and then ground them to a powder like a fine grind black pepper- We were having dinner and yeah! I got an ant somehow in the meal And I ate it These things are peppery I got ants I got ants. These ants, they don't need a lot and then you see when you find all the ones that are roaming around... I backed them off by doing the burning trick. You just torch them. And leave him there. The only ant, there are occasional moments where there's an ant that you do not torch and that's an ant that is carrying one of the dead ants back.

3:01:31 I got ants. I got ants. I got ants. Ants? Ants! Go. I'll tell you, kids... Come close to your podcast listening device Stick those buds deeper into your ear We'l just do it live! Do it live! That's cool Ha

3:02:11 We'll just do it live! Do it live! Squirrel mail nails it. All hail to the squirrel mail! We'll do it live! Well, you can burn to death in a gasoline car. I'd do it all live! Let's do it live! Nobody knows what we're talking about... ...I think we should stop the show? Get up in the morning

3:02:54 It's a media assassination Pick up the pieces and tear them apart Send it out to every nation Don't wanna sit back, don't wanna shut up And that's what public's gonna show No more lame stream, pullin' out the new meme Tell me where I should go This big crackpot, tiny bit of buzz Kill you too right in my mouth It's time to do it now, in the morning I wanna do it now, in the morning There's nothing better when it's in the morning Watching a puppet show from up on the hilltop As the world emerges fast by Same old history switching off the TV Tune into watching the sky They're crackpots and they buzz Gonna hit you right in the mouth

3:03:53 I wanna do it now, in the morning There's nothing better when it's here in the morning I wanna do it now, in the morning There's nothing better when it's In the morning

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