Two-way Sword

00:00 Oh, okay. Now we're going March! I don't typically do New Year's resolutions.

00:37 But I think we should resolve to stop with the Zephyr stuff in 2019. It's not a week issue Oh, I'm sorry. I was just trying to make it the show is you're trying to make it magnanimous a show issue trick me that's a Show issue Trying to trick me yeah, I just have this vision of you sitting there in your office on the hill and Watching the trains go by it goes one now marking it down in your little notebook. I definitely a little no calling Calling and complaints It was late, you know, I used to call in complaints because there's some clowns some years back Maybe we're talking some years back

01:20 who would love coming through with their freight trains honking the horn as loud as they can, but there's no crossings. There's nothing honking and honking at three in the morning thinking that's hilarious classic because I'm doing the same thing if I was a boy. Austin has that too we have the trains coming through and they always are blowing on purpose of course yeah especially at 3 in the morning there's no reason for it Today is an important day, December 23rd 2018. Not that you'd know it but there's an important election taking place today which kind of fits in with my beat Well then it's your beat to discuss I'm going to discuss it with a quick three clip the three-parter clip series Because it makes nothing but sense What have I been tracking? And I've been tracking Ebola in the Democratic Republic of Congo

02:17 And typically when there's Ebola, the whole idea is to send in some military troops to keep everything peaceful and calm which may have a secondary reason. We learned recently that the actual area of north... was it Viku? Biku? Niku? Viku? I forget already what it was. A particular area the Democratic Republic of Congo is where pretty much all your cell phone materials comes from. There's diamonds, there's gold, there's also a lot of oil and there's an election that has been gearing up And whenever these elections we always want to be involved I have a feeling that maybe the Ebola stories is just get us ready in case we have to jump into do something because it was big problem with this elections again slated for today in DRC This is infamous voting machine

03:06 A touch screen on which voters will select their candidate for the election before a ballot is printed and put into a ballot box to be counted manually. The president of the Electoral Commission claims that this machine will make voting easier for the population and at the same time guarantee total transparency. The ballot boxers should tell the truth, we want to win. The best of them all must succeed. The machine is here to annihilate all attempts at cheating which we unfortunately witnessed in the 2011 and 2006 elections

03:41 This is what the machine is here to fix. At the Electoral Commission headquarters, as in several places in Kinshasa voting machines are displayed so that anybody can come and experiment with the new technology Now that I've tried it looks very easy to me but the question now will be uneducated people like our mothers and villagers know how to use the machines? With the poll fast approaching, some opposition leaders are still very unhappy about the use of the machines which they call cheating machines. Voting machines are not a reliable way to vote. Congolese people are not used to it

04:26 It does not exist in our electoral law either. The Kabila clan chose this way of voting so that they can cheat." So there seems to be some issue with these new voting machines that have been brought in, manufactured by Miru Systems, a fine South Korean firm which leads me to believe there might be some Chinese stuff in there, but also if you have an Ebola infested country and area why are you gonna have touch screens? That seems like exactly the opposite of what you'd want to do. And Nikki Haley at the UN had her own issues. We're deeply concerned by the Election Commission's insistence on using an electronic voting system that has never been used in the DRC

05:15 Our understanding is that the Commission has never even tested this electronic voting system in the DRC, but plans to deploy this technology for the first time on Election Day. It should go without saying that employing an unfamiliar technology for the first time during a crucial election is an enormous risk. It has the potential to seriously undermine the credibility of elections that so many have worked hard to see have happen. These elections must be held by paper ballots, so there is no question about the Congolese people about the results

05:53 The US has no appetite to support an electronic voting system. Except here, of course! And if they were made... That's your ISO? Yeah you're right it is an ISO If it was made by Diebold, maybe she would have been okay with it. But perhaps the fact that it comes from South Korea and could have some Chinese technology in there who of course would like to have some control over the country seeing as they're the ones getting all the minerals... So what do you do? Well, you do this of course. You can't make it up!

06:54 So I can't take it much further than this. I don't know who's behind it, but certainly we're not happy with the voting machines and that may have something to do with the outcome and who ultimately is in control. And I think we have no control over this one. We're just blowing in the wind." Well you don't know that! Well that's why always say the Ebola may be there so if the wrong person gets elected which could happen, then we can send in some troops to protect everyone from Ebola. So it could be a distraction because there's nothing in the news that I've seen...I mean I had to go to Al Jazeera where else did I mean no US

07:41 outlets of any significance or reporting on even on the election really and certainly not about this definitely can't have Nikki Haley saying that voting machines are no good. There you go it's good enough for us but not for you in the DRC shut up and give me some minerals from my cell phone yes well we obviously will keep trying this is not gonna it sounds to me that just borderline, you know mess since a mess it isn't as poorly yeah it's an actual mess Good, I'm glad you caught that. Yeah so the election is today so who knows maybe Ebola will step up today depending on the outcome. I don't think we have an outcome just yet but i'll keep an eye on it. Well I've considered one of my beats to be the Supreme Court justice picks. Oh yes! You mean because you're already counting on Ruth Bader Ginsburg no longer serving as a Justice? My mother had cancer and she lived to 90

08:47 And she probably had cancer for, I don't know a long time. Like maybe a decade? Well my mother had lung cancer. Didn't last a long time. She didn't have lung cancer just something. Oh okay But she was so skinny that the cancer couldn't thrive. Oh really? Yeah Huh! and uh... That's what kept her going. Nothing like a cabbage diet Anyway The uh Ruth Gator, Ruth Gator, Ruth Bader Ginsburg seems to have that same characteristic. She's really thin if she had a blood transfusion or something she'd be a goner but you know still this is like...she's had lots of different cancers. She's not just someone who has some lingering cancer so I figure she's got a year

09:37 Well, she's just being old and tired. How about that? I mean you may want to serve your country but she is I believe 85. Yeah but she said die hard liberal... Let me just say one thing before she dies because eventually we all do There's a lot of good to be said about her. I mean she did do a lot for women She's very very interesting, you know she's an important part of the American experience Let me say it before she's gone So so no to say now it's easy as I actually falls asleep She's not good But she has quite a shit that no I'm saying in general Not about you in general because I hear a lot of this I read a lot of Give the woman a little bit of respect as she leaves

10:24 Meanwhile, we've got to pick somebody. I do have an essay coming up. I've decided from now on out, I'm not putting it in the newsletter, I'm sending them out separately. This will be handicapping the picks. I'll give you a little heads-up. I do not think Amy Coney Barrett is going to win anything or get picked. Really? I think that they're gonna probably pick a woman, and I believe it will be her competition which is Joan Larson. Now Joan Larson, Kukumi Berry is the odds on absolute if you wanted to have check boxes she's the smartest, she is the prettiest

11:09 He's the youngest. Hold on, Joan Larson? I don't know. I've never even heard of her. No no Amy Comey Barrett is the smartest, prettiest, the youngest. Comey Barrett is a few years older and I'm sorry Larson is a few years older. Comey Barrett is the youngest. The problem with Comey Barrett I believe as in our presentation we talk about... On paper I am reminded of our vice president hopeful under the John McCain administration who I had picked to be picked Our friend from Alaska. Yes, Sarah Palin she I picked her not ever hearing her And and we do need to be very specific here the American public chooses their elected leaders like which use our soup So it needs to be appealing the message needs to be repeated clearly and often you will be much whiter after you use me

12:11 Now, Bomi Bikoni Barrett has the advantages of being the smartest. She's got great education, she's got great credit, she has seven children two of them...she's adopted two kids from Haiti, a Haiti refugee. She's a saint! What's wrong with her then John? There's gotta be something wrong! Her voice. Her voice, she sounds like she's on helium. I have a clip that I want you to play that I have to tell everybody because they know we've doctored our clips occasionally for a cheap laugh not to change the meaning or anything There is no doctoring going on with this clip and I think just because she doesn't present her... And she's a professor!

12:58 But she, her voice is a bit off-putting. When is it proper for judge to put their religious views above applying the law? Thank you Chairman Grassley Let me start with your very last question and say never It's never appropriate for a judge to impose that judges personal convictions, whether they derive from faith or anywhere else on the law. This article that I wrote as a law student has gotten a lot of attention since my nomination so i'd like the opportunity to put it in context. I wrote that Law Review article when I was at third year law student with one of my professors twenty years ago It was a project that he had underway and he invited me to work on it with him and I was complimented by...as a student he thought I was up to the task

13:45 assistant, but I was very much the junior partner in our collaboration and that was appropriate given our relative statures. Would I or could I say that sitting here today that that article and it's every particular Reflects how I think about these questions today With as you say the benefit of 20 years of experience and also the ability to speak solely in my own voice No, it would not That I mean I get what you're going for but the competition has got to be a lot better for this to be A total game. You know a non-starter

14:23 Joe Larson, I think has the creds to be able to pull this off. She's got a little more experience on the bench. She's got more experience as a litigator. She's got more experience in general but again not quite the voice you want for someone who... Not that I'm gonna be picky about this but I know these things do matter also there was a fear that Amy Coney Barrett Has not enough judicial experience. She's only been on the bench for since 2017 along with Joan, but Joan was a chief justice before she got on the bench at one of the states I think Michigan and so she was on the Supreme Court

15:07 The problem, they believe is that Barrett—they don't know if she's going to become another David Souter who was a big conservative pick by one of the conservative presidents. and turn out to be this massive liberal. Barrett could be the same way, she could become a... you can just see it in her way she thinks that she could become a real killer liberal that would be a problem so they're not picking her I'm telling everybody. I love your mind reading i'm not saying is wrong Joan Larson as I think

15:43 better choice, not the voice I'd want to hear but at least she... Can I give you quick feedback just because I had not even heard this name prior to this program? Yeah. If we were to cast a female justice she's the one. She is... Larson is straight out of central casting Okay let's stop there. I mean I will make a commentary about this because Adam and I both have thoughts about appearance from the executive producer perspective. Yes, not from douchebag dudes. Amy is prettier and Amy is incredibly telegenic Joan is beautiful in a photograph but she's not nearly as telegenic she's actually not telegenic

16:32 So there's a little difference there. But it's beside the point, their Supreme Court justice is not going to be... they're never on camera so what difference does it make? So let's listen to her. ...branches but not to those branches as I said in the Supreme Court hearing judges must be equally dependent independent of the president who nominates them and the senators who confirm them So, Justice Larson... I think your voice is really quite masculine. Please describe what judicial independence means to you and tell us whether you have any trouble ruling against the president who appointed you?

17:09 Thank you for the question, Chairman Grassley. I would have absolutely no trouble ruling against the president who appointed me or any successor president as well. Judicial independence means one thing – one very simple thing and that is putting the law above everything else. The statutes passed by this body and the Constitution of the United States so i would have absolutely no trouble indeed that would be my duty We've often heard these words, especially since January. Quote unquote now more than ever we need judges who will be independent of the president who nominated them so I'd like to ask about your nomination and your independence a lot or much Now is this a confirmation hearing for a for different for the circuit court circuits? Yeah. Yeah the Circuit

18:06 Also, Barrett got less votes in the Senate as a confirmation than Larson did. And she's...they hate her because she's a staunch Catholic. The other problem is I'm gonna bring this up. This is the part that nobody will discuss because it's like you can't discuss it. The Supreme Court has too many Catholics on it. It's almost all Catholics and a couple of Jews. That's it. Amy Coney Barrett is an extreme Catholic. She's like a, I would say she's a charismatic Catholic in the old sense. This woman Larson...I spent days trying to find out what religion or what religious affiliation she has. There is none! She's either an atheist

18:58 An agnostic? A wicca or who knows what. Yeah, that's what she looks like nailed it now and believe me I did put a little more effort than i should have because at one point got I said wait a minute I've got to figure this out and I went and found all kinds of documentation for what the religious affiliations are of all these different people And she's not definable. I've even written to people who wrote some biographies about her and nobody ever wrote me back, thank you! So that's an issue because it may turn out that she's... You know, I don't believe in God or she's a theist is what... Because if you... She has a husband this is the problem. She's got some drawbacks. She's got a husband who's a professor of law. This guy

19:51 It's got the black scraggly goatee, not a nice shrimp goatee. A big ponytail. Oh no! Yeah, ponytail And he wears a bow tie all the time. What does he do? He's a professor of law and teaches law, and he has got the bow tie and ponytail and spinning... It is like this guy, they don't share names so she is of the which is a giveaway of some sort. I'm not taking my husband's name, I probably won't be married to him that long why should i or something like that Amy

20:32 Coney Barrett is married to a barret and Coney is her old name. So there's that, so we have this problem and there's a third party which I don't have in handy. I've done doing some research on him who was another possible guy but I think they're gonna have to put a woman in because of Ginsburg being a woman. It's gotta be one of these two. There are no other real challengers these are the two best Okay, well Just based on What I'm seeing. I think had not heard of Joan Larson even being in the race for this. I hadn't even honestly considered Talking about a replacement for Ginsburg just yet. Yeah, you gotta be ahead of the game But yeah, but Larson and you know you could put her on law and order right now boom in there done She looks the part

21:29 And I think that'll do it. Okay, well while we're on that then... We saw General Mattis resign? Yes, I have a bunch of clips about that Yeah you want to just talk about his replacement real quick? Do you have any thoughts on it? I do! I have the military's thoughts I've looked at Stars and Stripes in the military times, and looked at what they thought. Yeah. I think the guy...the best guy would be the guy who's a deputy, the guy who was the executive from Boeing. Right. Who is the deputy. Well that's the guy you want! You want that kind of guy because he keeps the whole thing moving. And as you can see

22:14 Well, maybe we should take a step back before we get to that. What happened the minute Trump said all right pulling out of Syria Pulling out of Afghanistan Everybody in Washington DC just lost their crap Including Fox and maybe even especially Fox News is oh my god what are you gonna do? This is this is the machine You can't remove them. It doesn't know how it works. Remove the machine And I have a couple funny clips about it. Do you want to start with something? I have a bunch of clips, I got Panetta bitching about it... Oh good! Let's do some bitching first. Why don't I start with Bitch number one Yeah this is actually Fox This is I think Fox and Friends and Sarah Sanders of course calls in The President has been... I'm sorry I was just going to say one thing

23:05 That was in a tweet somebody pointed this on I thought it was gracious Trump has done nothing to change the Republican Party, but he's done everything to change the Democrat Party. They are now all warmongers Yeah, that's what's okay then? I'll flip them around yes warmonger so we'll start with Nicole Wallace and from MSNBC, here's what she had to say. I mean is he someone...is the Pentagon...you're basically describing a US military that does not listen to the commander-in-chief? Is that what's going on? Well no, I don't think they don't listen to him. I think they try and prepare for the unexpected. He ordered a transgender ban! Listen, to their credit, I'm cheered if you're telling me that the military doesn't listen to him but

23:48 I read a lot of quotes from senior Pentagon officials who were alarmed by the news, who had their rug pulled... who were testified or communicated as recently as yesterday that our commitment was solid. The president seems to have his foreign policy run through Moscow or Turkey or other countries Yeah, so she is just cheered. She's cheered I don't know if you can be cheered but she's cheered if the military no longer listens to the commander-in-chief that's uh...she's cheered by that so I guess she likes that And then we have the Fox people just taking it many steps further. The president has been talking about this since the campaign, he brought it up again eight months ago six months ago He's wanted to bring our troops home Look our goal and the President's purpose of continuing to be in Syria was to defeat ISIS We've defeated the territorial caliphate 99% of

24:39 ISIS has been wiped out of Syria. The president doesn't want to be in the middle of another civil war in the Middle East and put American lives on the line for that purpose, he wants to bring the men and women of our armed forces home and that's what he pledged to do and that is exactly what he's doing. Sarah, he's giving Russia a big win, Vladimir Putin praised him, he also was doing exactly what he criticized President Obama for doing. He said President Obama is the founder of ISIS! He just re-founded ISIS because they got He refounded Isis This is fantastic everyone wants war apparently in them in the mainstream media everybody all sides war war war war war Just want more. I don't care just we need to be fighting somewhere as there's no good, and if you go ahead It's just ridiculous and just for historical context when Mattis was brought into

25:37 manage the Afghanistan region under, well that was under Bush. Rumsfeld was the Secretary of Defense when he came in he was hated by the left And mainly because this is a news clip from Al Jazeera just play a little bit from This must have been around that little bit later than tooth that maybe 2006 or something This is the man who will take over one of the US military's most challenging jobs General James Mattis and this is what he's best known for

26:13 It's a lot of fun to fight him, you know. It's a helluva hoot. Uh... it-it gets fun to shoot some people I'll be right up on ya'. I like brawling." In announcing his choice of men... He was like, ''I'd like to shoot them! I love em!'' Oh yeah, I liked that getting the brawl and shoot those guys. I don't get any of it. Like hey they-they uh mishandle women so ah it's good to go kill them. That was not really what anyone wanted to hear at the time At least not on the left. No one really, but now we forget all that and we're very good at it We forget all about the a-hole who wanted to just go blow people up And I also heard that this is story that I heard is that Mattis had consultants in Who were saying you know? You could run for president in 2020

27:04 I'm not kidding. And so part of the issue was that- I think a lot of true four star generals would all kind of believe that maybe, because Ike did it... Right Well, apparently he had the consultants in. The president got wind of it and he's like you know if you want to run that's cool but I can't have you in for two years while your ultimately going to run against me so... You gotta go! That's that's a story heard from our military intelligence. That actually makes sense but I think is a combination thing. It shows perfect timing of course with the pullout in Syria Perfect timing Well one of course he wanted to stay in Syria forever

27:42 There's also the issue with the chief of staff. He didn't like Mark Miley, the guy that we like headed at the army taking over as a chief of staff in the joint chiefs. He wanted David Goldfein who is the Air Force guy and I would challenge anybody in the military or civilians whatever take go on to Wikipedia and look up Miley and look up Goldfein and put their bio side by side And ask yourself why anybody would want gold fine. So there was that issue, there was the Miley issue and there's a third issue I'm trying to think what it was that he had run in with...I mean Mattis was in total disagreement. I'll come up with before we're done with our clips but it wasn't a good match to begin with but let's play kind of the background on Mattis quits leave snarky note PBS

28:38 The resignation letter was noteworthy for its absence of any praise for President Trump. Instead, he cited his differences with the commander-in-chief writing you have the right to have a secretary whose views are better aligned with yours We are going to appoint Mad Dog Mattis as our Secretary of Defense The seeds of discord were present when Mr. Trump announced in 2016 that the retired four-star Marine General would run the Pentagon. Mattis has made it known that he hates the nickname Mad Dog, after that he repeatedly disagreed publicly with the president by supporting NATO and other alliances criticizing Russian interference in US elections and opposing the President's withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal and transgender military ban

29:33 Then came Mr. Trump's sudden decision this week to withdraw U.S. troops from Syria, a move Mattis strongly disagreed with At the White House last night press secretary Sarah Sanders acknowledged the rift He and the president have a good relationship but sometimes they disagree The president always listens to the members of his national security team But at the end of the day it is the President's decision Mattis plans to leave the Pentagon at the end of February. The other little issue I was thinking about besides the Mark Miley and all these other disagreements is, the Pentagon budget failed they tried... You mean the audit? Yes, the audit. He's the head of the Defense Department he's the head in the Pentagon he's the one responsible he's the one who didn't get the audit done right yeah another good point

30:29 And nobody's talking about that. Well, nobody wants to know about it including this president I don't think he really cares just wants to make sure we spend a lot on it and that were the biggest in the baddest So here's here We have PBS had a lot of this because Judy has gone off the rails. I Really think that she misses Gwen Gwen's balance She's got no, she's completely unbalanced. She's starting to shake. She's really Trump hater it's unbelievable So we have these We have Panetta and Richard Haass so Panetta former CIA director former Secretary of Defense for Obama yes And Haas was a lot of different things but he is the head of the Council on Foreign Relations These are the guys you want for a balanced story on PBS

31:25 So let's listen to Panetta on Mattis. Leon, Panetta to you first your reaction when you learned that Secretary Mattis had resigned? I thought it was a sad day for the nation To lose an outstanding defense secretary who is well experienced with regards to national security policy and also believed in the basic principles of of leadership, of strength, of our alliances, understanding who our adversaries are. Principles that I think have served this country well since World War II to lose that experience, to lose somebody with those principles, I think increases the danger in this country

32:14 having the ability to deal with a lot of danger points in the world today. And that concerns me because I think it puts our nation at risk." So what did he just say other than, uh... What did he actually say? Okay nothing. But here's where it goes with the follow-up that she goes to Haas and asks him specifically Do you think the nations at risk, which is what Panetta said we're all a risk for some reason she thinks so too. You can tell by the way she asked the question Listen to Haas not answer this question in an affirmative way. Richard Haass, you agree it puts the nation at risk? Well it's certainly a major loss he was experienced, he was sober, he represented... Sober?! Hey we want our military men drunk! He was sober, he represented essentially traditional foreign policy view for foreign policy

33:09 I'll admit my bias, but it served this country extraordinarily well for three quarters of a century. Which is like, again we're listening to the head of the Council on Foreign Relations so he's definitely... Let me guess. He must be against it or am I wrong? Everyone is against it! Just checking. And here's what gets me Why why we were doing there in the first place, but he pulls the same stunt that these other guys have pulled We did it on last show. I had a clip that was similar to this where this is some sort of an abnegation of our Our responsibility when we're not even supposed to be in Syria It was only going to be a temporary thing to begin with three months three months three months you know No, how's yeah? But here listen to him go on and on

34:08 has again what I think is a radical view of this country's relationship with the world and that will be heard far beyond the Middle East. I would think people in Taiwan, in South Korea, in Europe they saw what this president did and why would any American ally why would any country dependent on America somehow believe that something like this couldn't happen to them. We have shredded our reputation for reliability and dependability, and that might be the greatest consequence of the last few days." What's interesting about this... Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. I'm just saying what is he talking about? We who-what ally did we screw by leaving Syria? No but he's- Name one! Well that's not what he's saying i think to me what he's saying is hey if you're Japan you know you should be worried because you know we can just pull right out and we won't even have a base who won't protect you. I think that's what he's trying to say. We only have 800 bases around the world so now uh

35:09 I personally, I like it. I've been advocating to get out of everything for as long as I can remember and also there was no this is all under the phony baloney although wasn't at the time but under the 9-11 regulation that the president you know we're still under a state of emergency presidents can put us into war situations without the only body who has the authority to do that which is the House of Representatives well I know some of the degrees with you Well, there's a lot of people would agree with me. Well, who is it? Insofar as the clip... Oh Ron Paul! Of course yes you know in a way why should it be complicated we were in a place we shouldn't have been in so war that's unconstitutional doesn't make any sense We don't know why we're there we don't know when we're supposed to come and finally we have a president in this case doing exactly what he said he wants to do and they go nuts

36:04 So I guess we shouldn't be shocked, shocked. I'm shocked that there would be these faction. And I think you know this is Washington showing its colors here are the neocons the main proponents of the unitary executive he's a decider he is a commander-in-chief Then when he finally acts as a decider, acts as the commander in chief in a constitutional way removing troops from somewhere they shouldn't go. All of the sudden... He didn't tell us! He didn't ask us! He's not listening to us! What is going on here? The war is a dumb war and it's unconstitutional and then they criticize him for doing this. This is one place where

36:41 A president that has even a memory of the Constitution did the right thing. Yeah, exactly exactly It's also a nice time to pay attention to people who are adamantly against this pullout You just need to note their names. They may all be against it, but really listen to the you know particularly the media I agree Yeah pay attention who's really against it because those those that's the enemy right there well And it's also part of spot the spook Yes well It seems like everybody's on board not that that wouldn't be possible too well

37:20 The one clip I do have that, I think is interesting because it was offset from the Judy's report on Trump leaving Syria and firing Mattis. And it seems to if you just kind of dissected, it seems to explain what really went on here is that they think it's like Trump decided let's just leave When it's quite possible that he did a bunch of deals in the background because he was floating around, especially with Turkey to get himself out. Get our guys out and put somebody else in to finish the job because there are two factors in this Turkey situation and this is explained on PBS NewsHour but it's done as a separate story that has nothing to do with anything but play this leaving

38:07 Syria, Erdogan deal with Trump. Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan today welcomed U.S plans to leave Syria that came as the Associated Press reported that President Trump made the decision after speaking with Erdogan last week In Istanbul, the Turkish leader said he promised the president that Turkey will finish off Islamic State militants. We will be working on our operational plans to eliminate Islamic State elements which are said to remain intact in Syria in line with our conversation with President Trump. In other words over the next months we will adopt an operational style geared toward this goal

38:47 Erdogan also said that Turkey is delaying a planned operation against US-backed Kurdish forces in Syria. Meanwhile, the Kurds warned their fighters may have to leave the fight against ISIS to confront any Turkish attack. Yeah now there's obviously deals happening here and I think for Trump it was you know what Just stop all the crap about Saudi Arabia, you know take a backseat on the Khashoggi thing. I'll give you Syria. I don't care anyway. It seems that cut and dry

39:25 I think so too, and i think he had to protect the Kurds. And all the protection consisted of... It's part of this part of the deal because everyone said yeah you said no we won't go after the Kurds right away where were going to hang back. So he gave Kurds a heads up to get out of town. Yeah they'll go back to where they came from and leave Syria and that Turks are gonna come in full force take these the rest of these idiots These Isis idiots out. There's one other that's that the whole thing of that'll be oh my god there may be some peace at least for us Well, there's two other things that about well first of all there was a an interesting ad

40:06 in Recoil Magazine, which is some... like aerospace defense magazine. And it was the... remember the old Blackwater logo with like the claw? Blackwater, The Mercenaries? Eric Prince. So they took out a full-page ad I don't know what that costs in Recoil Magazine but completely black, the Blackwater logo and then just the words we are coming and the thinking is that pullout of Syria but certainly Afghanistan Is all kind of surface stuff like let's bring our boys and girls home But in the meantime we do send in Blackwater, Z Academy or whatever they're called today To still you know have the covert operations that we need when we need them. Like maybe for the poppy fields

40:54 Apparently we still need him at the poppy fields something like that and then here, and this is just turkey in general a new update came out for iPhones and iPads I don't use one anymore But I do have this it's iOS 12 dot 1.2 And it includes bug fixes for your phone Two in particular, fixes bugs with eSIM activation and addresses an issue that could affect cellular connectivity in Turkey. I'm thinking wait a minute... What system is Turkey using that could be an issue? And I went to look for it the first thing you hit right off the bat is from the when was this so I think couple weeks ago

41:47 that Turkey President Tayyip Erdogan announced today the country would boycott all electronics from the United States, in particular targeting specifically Apple amidst rising trade tensions between the two countries. So it may just be coincidence But you have a country threatening to boycott a device specifically, and then they do an update with something that is... fixes something not working on the Turkish cell phone network. To me it sounds like maybe they inserted something to make it work better on the Turkish cell phone network like they might do with China

42:34 Or maybe they turned off something. They turned off the spy device No, I think that... no because Turkey said we don't- we're gonna boycott your phones Well if it's gonna make the phone work more like a spy device why wouldn't they just keep boycotting the phone? How about if it's working as a spy device for them For the Turkish government. Oh, for the Turkish internal spy device? Just like the Chinese have some special updates... So they can spy on their people? Yes! Exactly Well yeah they gotta do something about the gulanists Yeah Okay I can buy that That could be part of it I'd like to know more about it though I'm very interested in- Well you're not gonna hear anything You heard all your gonna hear and its on this show I cant accuse Apple of anything cause y'know that could get us deplatformed

43:24 We'll talk about that later. Well, I think something's up now turning Turkey into a major trading partner with the United States is not a bad idea. I still admire from my visit there. The glassware that is made in Turkey is world class and it never gets out of Turkey, I mean does but not into the United States. And its so cheap, its just incredibly competitive. There's a lot of stuff today that might benefit both countries and

43:59 Maybe Trump's doing a good thing here overall giving Turkey half of Syria and Well, it's you know. He's not just giving it to turkey is giving it to Russia he's given me two Iran And I think as we end the tour and Syria yeah Yes, thank in Syria their own country and fine let everyone fight it out You know let everyone run around you know it was the French who wanted us to do that? I mean That's really where it all comes stems from from total oil Yeah, and I haven't heard anything about French The French suckered us into Vietnam too, if you recall. Yeah not from first-hand experience but yeah I've seen the Ken Burns documentary but it wasn't really spelled out that well about France's role. They're very sly about it so let's face what seems to go on with that but first of all the Russians were always in Syria they had that big port

44:56 So what's new about Russia being there? Nothing. Nope, no. So now all of a sudden it's a big deal. Russia is pulling this Trump strings Yeah well I'm just anti-war so i'm happy with it. what our business is here in the United States. I'm not ashamed of it, I'd leave if i was but you know we create war stuff that's where we spend the most money on that's with most people and working an industry and of course to get the other side of a health care but we make war stuff there is also an 11 billion dollar contract Erdogan agreed to for more of our stuff as a part of this deal with Trump

45:40 You know, and so the same goes for Saudi Arabia. $110-120 billion dollars. He says why don't you guys take all our stuff we'll help you operate it and kill each other and will just sit here with their own oil? That could be in actual strategy! It's not a bad strategy. I just like to know why the Lib Joes out there are all pro-war all of a sudden? Because they're anti Trump! Just whatever he does, you got to be against him no matter what your position was in the past and now it's getting to an interesting point where people who should be pacifists and want peace on earth are

46:18 Advocating for the exact opposite. And that's why... Well, it's funny! That's why you gotta keep an eye on who's doing- Who saying what? Because you got to remember what they're doing. Yeah. Quite amusing Alright, I think we've covered most of that. Well this anger kind of crossed over with the wall and some shoehorning ramming through a five billion dollar budget last minute through the House which has to go through the Senate which seems impossible but it was...I don't know what the move is

46:55 But the way it played out in the M5M is Trump was kind of hanging back, he was defeated because you know Nancy and Chuck went into the Oval Office beat the crap out of him. He's like whoo but then It was apparently people like Ann Coulter and anyone on Fox who were telling the president that he lost his manhood, and he should stand up for the wall. And hilariously that's how it was interpreted by Jeffrey Toobin constitutional lawyer on CNN. And Republicans are complaining, Jeffrey that they can't figure out exactly where the president stands they meet with him they hear what he's saying but he's not telling them I'm gonna sign this but i'm not going to sign that

47:44 Well, what they should be doing obviously is checking with Ann Coulter because apparently she's the president of the United States as far as this is concerned. I mean this was a deal! This deal was agreed to Mitch McConnell who has nobody's idea of a flaming liberal Paul Ryan everybody thought this deal was done and you know what? The President lost on the wall because he didn't have the votes But then, you know Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter started challenging the president's manhood and the House Republicans started stamping their feet. And the President decided no-no-no I'm gonna scream and yell shut down the government even though i still don't have the votes so I mean I guess Ann Coulter has to figure out how this is all going to end because she's the person who was driving the federal government at this point

48:33 God help us. God help us I'm not so sure what guy that lunatic and by the way, why is he? I mean this is just a promotion for Ann Coulter Yeah, she's been misquoted And they just use her they users are whipping boy They like to throw around but also some reason manhood thing that came from Some overheard conversation of Nancy Pelosi Yes, exactly. So I'm not quite sure how this got to...I mean I didn't follow any of that because I barely watch that kind of stuff so Here is Shields. There's Brooks and Shields by the way They took Brooks away and they put in this Gershon guy. So now it's Shields and a worse Shields This PBS has gone off the rails. I mean they don't have any balance whatsoever anymore but listen to Shields misquoting Coulter hours away from yet another

49:29 government shutdown. What does it say about the way things are working right now in our government? Well, not well Judy I mean we went from a week ago recalling the White House which seems eons ago when Senator Schumer and Democratic House leader and Speaker to be Pelosi met with the president and the President you know manfully stepped up and said that they'll take this shut down You know be happy to do it on my put it but to me then to an agreement with the Senate that would stay, they'd fund it through the new year and then come back and revisit it. And then immediately a reaction or revulsion if you would from the president's longest and strongest supporters TV commentators on the right such as Rush Limbaugh and Coulter

50:19 and said that this was a sellout on the wall. And Coulter going so far as to say his presidency was a joke, and that he had scammed the American people. So now they brought in a couple... so this is all Republican right-wing talk people? Yeah now they're important. They never have them on these shows! But hold on There's something more behind this. I don't know what it is yet, but there's no reason for a guy like this to... Okay you can talk about Ann Coulter so that was maybe somewhere the impetus but you bring in Rush Limbaugh, I've heard other... Of course they bring in Hannity and Carlson any anybody they can from mainly from Fox News What's the...there's more to that? First of all let's make the correction here that she never said the presidency's a joke

51:11 She had a longer comment, she says if after four years he doesn't get the wall built then the presidency will be a joke. That's that lot different than the presidency is a joke and a scam I don't know where you got even got that part but there is a...I don't know maybe they're trying to separate their herd or they're trying do something Divide and conquer the right wing. I think they're going for a massive cable D platform Deep platform Fox News from every cable station in the country. That's not gonna be Too hard to do hey, they did deep platform your boy

51:50 And, hey who's my boy? Your boy is a... hold on I'll tell you. Your boy well it's not your boy your boy is Savage Michael Savage kicked off of New York so he effectively lost his New York affiliate yeah WGN that's huge issue that's a huge problem oh it's a major problem now no he's de-platformed from National Radio You don't have New York, you have almost nothing. I come from that business. But New York's a big deal It's the deal. Yeah, it's the deal. New York threw him out. Uh...it is causing a problem by the way. I think it may cause more trouble for WGN than it does for anyone Well but do you know who they're bringing in? And this what I found interesting Ben Shapiro Oh God! Ben Shapiro's unlistenable Ben Shapiro is a shill He is a Hollywood creation By admission

52:50 He's a Hollywood creation and now he's got seven stations. He's cleared in New York, he's cleared in DC, he's cleared in Chicago and these are good stations ABC New York WLS Chicago, he's got Atlanta, he's got KBC Los Angeles This is a massive change but Shapiro was also not a pro-Trump guy No, he was anti Trump I think he is a never Trumper But he's really being put, he's being positioned in. He can't handle it! Yes he can... I don't think so you- You- No the number of people that can handle that three hours of talk every day five days a week all year is very small number of people they're all semi nuts

53:41 Okay, well that not now I'm not interested in that part of it. Um he's being put in here He has zero radio experience that I know of and now he can like I said you can't handle That's what you do what? You just said is very doesn't matter because he'll stay in there to propagate the message look Let's look at these replacing Michael Savage. He's nobody's gonna listen to his show It's important It's very important. There is money involved, that is very important to these guys. Okay first of all you're wrong because Ben Shapiro has quite an audience online and people like him a lot of people like him a lot of moderate people like him I think he will he has a following I think it will translate to his radio show but it will effectively change the audience that listens

54:30 what they think would be right-wing talk radio, which it won't be because he's more left wing than right wing. Which doesn't work very well on the radio I'm agreeing with you but they're gonna give it a damn good shot with this kid. I think he is going to end up like Monica Crowley and some of these others that just do not draw the audience. I know what you're saying about him having an audience large massive audience is very hard to control and very hard to attract and he is annoying. Hey I had this argument at home about the guy so you don't have to tell me this but people like him, he has a message that it's kind of down the middle and its supplanting again going back toward the original

55:20 Questions like what's happening? Why are we picking on people it's to get rid of them. It's time to de-platform all these people Well, it's a good try you can go for it I mean did you know the joke is of course you went savage dead He's doing a podcast Yeah Society is doing a podcast, all you New Yorkers listen to my podcast. And I think a lot of them will because if anybody's going to drive the podcasting side of the industry it could be him! Thank You Michael Yeah, we need more competition. Good. I want to… We don't have any real competition now. Now I want to mention something about five or six years ago and ever since then I banished

56:09 I used your reaction. You don't even remember this, I'm absolutely sure of it. I played a Ben Shapiro clip on this show around six years ago and you went nuts! Really? Yes you hated the guy... you didn't like anything about him because he's so annoying. I never said that no now play me the tape It was like you were so irked by this clip that I have never played a Ben Shachar clip. Do you have the clips? Since it's too long ago, I probably do have it out see if I can find it and we'll play it again and see what your reaction is

56:48 I can't but what was he doing six years ago your react your reaction is the general public's reaction to a guy like this maybe six years ago maybe look, he went through a complete change. He went through you know wardrobe hair makeup the whole thing you know he's got good for radio he's got a big yeah he's got a big time agent Yeah it is! It really is that's what that's when you get with an Ingraham That's what you get with these you know Sean Hannity But he's a wolf in sheep's clothing. I'm trying to see if... Thank you, Brother Nathaniel! Let me see if I can find your Shapiro clip from six years ago. Yes, Shapiro. It might be under Shapiro, it might not. Okay well that's not helpful then. I mean you'd look and look. You search engine. Let me see 2014 maybe?

57:46 That's five years ago. Ben Shapiro on guns, Ben Shapiro guns morality, socialism narcissism egomaniacs, Ben Shapiro on Jews... No that was 17. Now I don't have... Nah, 2014. We'll just drop it. Well you brought it up! I think Ben Shapiro radio is going to be a fail and it will be faster than we'd make. Okay, I think it will be successful and you will eat crow. I would refuse to eat crow. Crow is a very noble bird." How did we get onto this? We were talking about these guys going off on Colter, and meanwhile...I played the Shields clip where he makes all these assertions so then they got this guy Gershon from the WAPO comes on and he's talking about this as if the topic is

58:52 the way Trump handled the budget issue to the point where we're at an impasse. Where does the fault lie? Well, big picture. This shows how easy the president of the United States is to manipulate I mean he had agreed to a deal then some of his you know toughest supporters Limbaugh and Coulter and Some of the team in the Fox News morning programs came out against it And he changed his view like a puppet on a string It was really extraordinary, a sign of weak leadership. And I can bet you that Russia and China and North Korea look at something like that about how easy this president is to manipulate. So that's the context for this. You know so I don't think he can make a particularly good case having agreed already to something rather reasonable

59:47 that, you know, that he changed his view with good reason. He can't make that case. What kind of balance is this when it comes to the PBS? Well... Yeah there's no balance There are people that could rationalize and maybe give us some perspective from a different point of view, but no. PBS did...they've already done this with the global warming and they've admitted it. They cannot have...and Gore even trited them for even thinking about it. You cannot have anybody on arguing against...you can't have anyone against the

1:00:30 the global warming thesis on the show. They've already said that, so you have two people on there's no balance they're both going to say the same thing right now they've done it with the Shields and Brooks segment Where you got Shields who hates Trump with a guy who hates Trump more? Is that what your balance is, real hate and kind of subtle hate maybe. And then doesn't hate him so much but this guy hates him a lot and that's where we're... There's your balance there isn't there? If I were you i'd return my donation AND my tote bag Luckily I don't donate to them Let's listen to another globalist Maisie Hirono Who they like to call because no one ever heard of Maisie Hirono of Hawaii

1:01:12 That's because she is pretty much an idiot. Yes, but she says fun things! I was very distressed by it of course and he made it very clear that he and President Trump were not on the same page in terms of their world views And of course Trump's worldview is a very How shall I say it? Out of whack because he comes up with it himself. And these last two days, we have been on a roller coaster with him at the controls because first there's the announcement that we're getting out of Syria where we know that he didn't discuss it with anybody including General Mattis

1:01:50 giving a huge Christmas present to Putin and to Iran. Then, because I've been very focused on what's going on at the border they make an announcement that people who are coming through for asylum purposes have to wait on the Mexican side where there are huge safety concerns for so many of their children And then, of course, the Senate did the responsible thing last night by keeping government running passing this bill by voice vote and only to have President Trump get all worked up because he's got some right-wing loud people yelling at him on Fox News, and suddenly he says well I don't think i'm going to sign it. So it is very true that he will bring on the shutdown and yes take responsibility for any effort on his part to blame the Democrats will be such bullshit that as I said before I would hardly be able to stand it. I think she said bullshit

1:02:49 I admire that. Give her points for the bullshit, but there's the clear talking point you know it was like the crazy people on Fox News and they're not on the same page ever again a lot yeah yeah yeah i think really this has more to do with a serious media offensive on a competitor in the space I like your theory. The Michael Savage stuff is... Yeah, he's not 100% a subscriber but I like it. The Michael Savage removal from ABC in New York is an advertiser related issue. They went after his advertisers

1:03:28 Yeah, well they do that. Well yeah well it was successful that's my point. We can do every show we can bring one example of that up that's the problem with the media today right but when its working and let's see how it goes you know will see there is too much at this same time its to much in the same stuff I think there's more little more behind it could be wrong We need to talk about deep platforming in general because I we have a couple of things to discuss. We'll do that in A moment, but first I do need to Thank you for your courage and say in the morning to the man who put the C in the DRC John Sayy

1:04:05 Well, in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry! Also in the morning all ships at sea and boots on the ground and feet in the air and subs in the water... And also the dames and knights out there! And a hearty ho-ho in the morning to the trolls in our troll room at noagendastream.com And they are active today, but always handing out little one-liners and information of feedback. It's a great way to if you're producing a show I recommend you try to record it while doing it live and have a troll room but get your own trolls Noah's in the stream.com also thanks to our artist for the 1096 episode of this podcast series Mike Riley brought us that artwork which a lot of people liked, a lot of people did like fried their brain

1:04:57 And when you first see it, when you see this map of the world and you see Africa and Europe reversed on the map... It kind of hurts your brain for a second. But everyone got it even before they had heard the show like okay I know what this is supposed to mean. It was good! I thought it was a great piece Yeah, it really had the well my Riley who has been left out of the Out of the winner circle for a while It appeared to have been kind of decided or he's appeared to have decided To win. He put a lot of art up. Yeah I'm not letting this one slide by and he did have the best piece and that was it

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1:23:01 Yes, Chris Wilson from Australia. The drunkard minstrel has outdone himself along with Charles Couch, Secret Agent Paul Tom Starkweather put together some great end of show mixes for us goat and Christmas oriented cool because we're very goat oriented here on the show. We are going to wrap the show with a great Christmas medley yes yeah it'll be good one de-platforming I want to talk about deplatforming for a moment. And this, uh...I think it came but we were talking maybe i should play this uh this clip first actually This is about 5G and yeah I do want to play this actually because you were de-platformed from PC Magazine before writing for basically just questioning 5g technology well that wasn't even that

1:24:01 What I did is, I wrote a column about how many people were questioning it. I wasn't questioning it and I outlined all these different things and then I made the assertion that this could become a problem for people promoting 5G And interestingly, AT&T announced just this week that they would be updating their phones. So if you have AT&T on your Android phone or your iPhone You will within the new year receive a little notification where it says 4G LTE It'll say 5G E

1:24:39 Which stands for evolution, which means it's not 5G. It's bullcrap its marketing but these guys all crap But they're stupid this is the possibly the stupidest thing you can do to gain market share in unproven Technology that has not rolled out I mean unproven in certainly from a health perspective but unproven in many areas and They want to be the first because you know T-Mobile is trying to get out there. Yeah, foam finger We're AT&T but when you hear about some of the testimony going on about 5G such as Dr Sharon Goldberg that I have here she's an internal medicine physician and professor and she's testifying here about the possible dangers of

1:25:23 electromagnetic radiation associated with the 5G telephony networks. Wireless radiation has biological effects, period! This is no longer a subject for debate when you look at PubMed and the peer-reviewed literature These effects are seen in all life forms plants animals insects microbes In humans, we have clear evidence of cancer now. There is no question. We have an evidence of DNA damage, cardiomyopathy which is the precursor of congestive heart failure, neuropsychiatric effects. So 5G is not a conversation about whether or not these biological effects exist. They clearly do. We've been sitting on the evidence for EMR and chronic disease for decades

1:26:10 And now we're seeing all these epidemics appearing. So, diabetes is the first epidemic I think most of you know the statistics One in three American children will become diabetic in their lifetime and if they are Hispanic females the number is one in two What does this have to do with wireless radiation? Wireless radiation and other electromagnetic fields such as magnetic fields and dirty electricity have been clearly associated with elevated blood sugar and diabetes That is what the peer-reviewed literature says. It is not opinion. The closer you live to a cell tower, the higher your blood glucose. So the idea with small cells of putting the cells closer to people's homes and bedrooms scientifically is very dangerous and from an economic perspective it's dangerous.

1:26:57 And you may not know this. I was shocked to find this out, but the way you create a model of diabetes in rats in the lab is by exposing them to 2.4 gigahertz and this is not for long-term exposure The other epidemics that clearly link from the science with electromagnetic radiation are related to mental health, and this is straight from PubMed. This isn't my opinion. This is science. So we have three epidemics that clearly – they're essentially one epidemic. We have deterioration of mental health in the United States

1:27:33 So, and these epidemics are our suicide epidemic. Epidemics in violent cross- so shootings and the opioid epidemic These are facts these aren't and these are things that have just been glossed over by the wireless industry And I really don't have time to talk about them in five minutes. I wish I did But we need to examine our epidemics in the context of our EMF exposures now I want to believe all this, but I have to say listening to her with its PubMed peer-reviewed it's science the sciences in no questions asked shut up slave. I'm a little skeptical about it now Yeah, what do you think? What do you think right? Well? I don't have any Firsthand knowledge of anything so I do know I have a number of friends that were on the cell phones too long And they're old dead because of the cell phone oh

1:28:26 I have a dull line nose, it seems unlikely that they would've been dead otherwise. You can take any perspective you want on this but there's like a number of professors, one at Cal that has a webpage filled with documents about this. Apparently it's being studied to death and most of these things get suppressed, and that concerns me more than what she says. And she's not saying the science is in because everybody else says she's full of crap. The science is in on the other side." The thing that bugged me about her testimony... She was talking about 2.4 gigahertz. 5G isn't supposed to be much higher? Isn't that in the 50 gigahertz range?"

1:29:09 There's another woman who got de-platformed for writing about Wi-Fi, calling it wife fried. And we do know it's a microwave oven frequency that has got all kinds of protections around the microwave oven and we're slowly being microwave ovened and most of us have already determined at those levels is no big deal But it turns out that that is a big deal according to some studies, and they believe that the microwave Frequency which is our you know Wi-Fi everyone has you got one probably I was gonna say your feet there. No I have I have 2.4 gigahertz on my head both sides My hearing aids use at two point four gigahertz for The Apple Airplay why were you I'd be concerned? I'm very good

1:30:01 But there's some evidence that the diabetes epidemic is because of just constant exposure, it's constant exposure to this. Now that part I think sounds realistic but also maybe we should just stop eating junk in America? That might help us separate these issues. We always eat junk though so they're still growing its interest yes well a combination is deadly now the 5G is a totally different story. It's about this micromillimeter wave, technology is completely different than this penetrating stuff and millimeter wave doesn't penetrate very well. No which is why you need all the... You need millions of these things pounding in your head with

1:30:47 with millimeter waves. It's just a very sketchy, this technology is like all technologies when they first come out there they rush the market so somebody can make a lot of money and we'll deal with it later and even I sit on some show that I was on, I can't remember the name of it unfortunately should be able to but probably lost my memory from why fried? The...I call this potential this whole wireless revolution maybe asbestos of this 21st century. And all the companies that are potential for being sued out of business includes Intel!

1:31:34 But if this is a problem, they would want to hush it up for as long as they could until they can fix the problem. If they can fix it at all but there are rushing into market with this 5G because those guys, these big telecom companies are all in and they don't care about technology as long as you know... They just want the marketing angle? They want the investor angle that's what seems like to me as well. Yeah trying run their stock up trying to... This could be two way sword or double edged sword because of the 2-way sort I like that They can get, the investors can turn on them if something real, something definitive comes out of like Washington. The White House let's say about 5G Trump turns on it for example I mean this is a real risk here So it comes down to markets really? Yeah Okay well then it makes sense that you got de-platformed for that You know the biggest advertisers in the United States are Verizon

1:32:30 T-Mobile, I think AT&T is second or third. Those guys advertise the most so that would make sense that a magazine like PC Mag has sold out. Well...I think they've all sold out The number one way I see these days for you to get deplatformed is to call yourself a creator I would advise you don't do that. Have you noticed this? I think i may have mentioned it before, um... This really irks me! I can't explain exactly why But and it's and it revolves around the patreon discussion which for some reason people are still Incredibly surprised that patreon does not stand for complete free speech but really for what their community will Will accept, oh my goodness this is you got kicked off because You know he didn't fit within the community And people are surprised like patreon owes them something but every single one of these people talks about creators

1:33:32 And I think it's insulting, and I think it's bad to lump podcasters and YouTubers... Scott Adams calls himself a creator. Why is this bothering me? Can you please look in my head Dr. Dvorak?" I don't know why. It's something, i think it is actually the sound of the word or the word itself for the generality about what it is or maybe a trivializes or marginalize... That's what it is! Yeah, I think maybe that's it. I'm a podcaster and proud to say I am a podcaster. That's not a creator Well, you create a podcast? Creator... maybe it's because it sounds more like I'm God. I'm a creator! I'm God! That's probably... Maybe yeah, you might see it as blasphemous And most of these people probably do think they're all that and a bag of chips so then maybe that's why they call themselves We are the creators I tell ya

1:34:25 I create media! When you go to Adobe, they call them creatives. Creatives? I also didn't like that when when i had the agency...I despise that too. I think creatives despise it being called creatives Yeah, I think it puts you in a box yeah No wonder they go back to artist good word but artists is well established Anyways, the – I just wanted to mention for people who are being deplatformed that there is a very thriving ecosystem if you're interested and it's all based around Activity Pub.

1:35:03 And you don't really need to know what that is, but it's kind of a simple technology that allows the one thing RSS could never do which is the publish-subscribe model through anything but one huge centralized place. This is what is loosely called the Fediverse so if you want a Twitter like thing there's Mastodon If you want Instagram this PixelFed if you want YouTube there's Peertube and BitChute which work quite well actually None of these, not a single one will get you the same type of activity that you have on the big social networks such as Twitter, Facebook, Instagram etc. And that's mainly because there is no M5M feedback loop so they're not talking about it and feeding back into it and there are no algorithms So its' not like the drugs when you go into Twitter

1:35:55 It's fantastic if you want to just have a social network and interact, but it will never ever be anything like again. It's just pure drugs that you get from From the out algal algalized Social networks alkalize right I do have one story in this regard Oh good One of the guys that got deep platformers became a big deal about And everyone who even mentions his name gets de-platformed, including PewDiePie. Bitched about this... I think he's still on YouTube but.. He's not de-platformed? I think you got kicked off of Patreon Oh okay! But he is not de-platform from YouTube that'd be crazy It would be crazy to do that No they're not doing that but he lost income streams and so this Sargon of Akkad Yeah this is the thing

1:36:47 that started off the Patreon de-platforming and apparently huge fans, Dave Rubin and Peter Peterson are big fans. And because of this de-platforming of this guy... British guy I think? Yes his name is Carl Benjamin and he has this you know right wing, he's a real Brexit guy And he apparently said something not on his podcast, someplace else somewhere along the lines they accuse him of saying something years ago about something. I need to make a distinction about something here because I followed this and it's interesting you bring it to the show because I found that kind of uninteresting mainly because... I like the way always do that Well, I mean that but it's good You're bringing up now because the story has been around for two three weeks

1:37:40 First of all, the show- him. The guy himself I just don't find interesting. It's like okay fine whatever... He's a British guy what do you expect? You don't like the Brits! No that's not true. What he did You know, calling someone a white nigger and I was supposed to be... To show that. Basically the Joy Reid defense of you know, I said faggot because he says faggot then you know how it feels faggot. But this wasn't even anything that he produced! Hold on that's not the point Okay what's the point? Don't interrupt me i'll get to it eventually like the Zephyr Patreon is not a platform. It may be a payment platform... No, no!

1:38:26 Payment platform yes, but is the word but when I just want to make sure we make a distinction YouTube is a hosting platform Twitter is a hosting platform Facebook as a hosting platform The only thing patreon is is a financial exchange But now for some reason they talk about their creators like they own them and There's nothing hosted on their system and they're just a bunch of dipshits who take 15% with the very simple web application to charge your credit card. It's MasterCard that is the problem, I think that is who doing their processing That is the payment platform Patreon are just a bunch of leeches really Just opportunistic leeches And I fail to see why people fall for this every single time What have they fallen for?

1:39:18 for going along with what is called a platform and all of the sudden you're their property. They were talking about people this way from the get-go, our creators, our platform... Do you consider PayPal to be a platform that we're on? No! Not really Does PayPal call us one of their creators? No. They don't even mention us as a matter effect. Nah they should do some ads for us so You know, I'm a little sick of this. This is like people gotta open their eyes and step back up a little bit you seem to be outraged to an extreme first of all except for the two of us 90% of the podcast out there we don't go to these conventions And all these things i mean you've been to a couple i've never been to one of them But if we have people that go there uh jen briney's a huge fan of these things and at these conventions podcasting conventions

1:40:14 whatever they are, conferences. They push this stuff well here's how you make money as a podcaster you get on Patreon and it's promoted is as a way to make money as a podcaster and all kinds of people have bought into it and they only use Patreon many of them are completely on Patreon only, they don't even think about the other stuff that we do and that other people try to do. Which is what if we need Patreon? People have told us oh you guys should be on Patreon I've always been irked by this because why should we be on... What are they doing that we can't do ourselves? Well there's a, they got this website and then that is what their talking about when they talk about the platform The platform is their website that your mentioned on So it's kind of a platform

1:41:02 You know, I would...I don't have the objection you have. I guess it's apples to oranges where the defense of this Brexit Brit Sargon of Akkad is what I was doing wasn't on their platform The only analogy that would be right is if you were on someone else's money platform He doesn't create content for Patreon This is minor to me I think there's the other issue is the more interesting one and the one you should be happy about. But before I bring that up, let's at least listen to a guy giving us a rundown of Sargon of Akkad in this story so we have it. We know what we're talking about, people know what the hell they are arguing about. Sargon of Akkad if you don't know is he has got a YouTube channel just under 1 million subscribers He is a political commentator and this has nothing to do with whether you agree with him or not That's not the point

1:41:59 The point is, is that he was making his living supporting his family, supporting his children putting up really good content some of the best content on the web and he was being supported using Patreon to do this. Is this Dave Rubin? No, there's some guy I can't remember his name but it's just a mid-level video podcaster He's very good. So out of the blue, Patreon pulled his account terminated his account without any explanation whatsoever. I dug into this and tried to find out what's going on because there is a big brouhaha over this and what i found out was 10 months ago Sargon of Akkad or Karl said something on a website

1:42:49 podcast or something like that, that they've deemed to be offensive and therefore even though it was not on the Patreon site yanked his account. Right before Christmas no explanation he didn't violate their terms of service they just deemed that I think they just didn't like him we don't like you we don't like your politics therefore were going to make you disappear okay I realize go ahead I'd I've done some self-reflection please I'll wait for you Now, I do have a long story that Carl himself tells where he went to a conference and one of the women at the top on the dais called him out as a douchebag in human garbage because she was sitting in the audience. She's a feminist and I guess she writes negative things about feminist game reviewers so she got bent out of shape. He protested it to the conference runners.

1:43:47 I ended up apologizing to her, not paying any attention to his complaint because you're not supposed to do that. In other words, you're not supposed be on the dais calling out members of the audience and then it got the attention she made a wrote a bunch of articles got the attention of PayPal a Patreon, demanding he be pulled. And she throws a lot of weight around next thing you know this guy's lost all his income now the thing that stems from this we can play a little bit of this it is too long to play the whole thing but play a little bit so you listen to this guy so you know what his voice is and what he's like and why you probably don't like him because he's a little bit of a twit. In June 2017, I along with many other YouTube creators traveled to Los Angeles... Creators! Okay i'm done that was the end of that clip for me creators i'm youtube creator. ...to attend that year's VidCon event

1:44:35 VidCon bills itself as a community festival, creator conference and industry summit all wrapped up into one. We'd gone there to have a good time and meet one another At VidCon there were public panels most of which had not been announced when we purchased our tickets And we attended with a polite woman called Anita Sarkeesian A feminist video game critic She noticed me, and this happened. I had been sitting politely in the front row and as you can imagine abusing the audience from the stage is a violation of VidCon's rules so i filed a complaint to VidCon.

1:45:25 Unless it's important to play the rest. I just want to get to my self-reflection because this guy's driving me finish the story then with, uh, the whole thing would happen and this was what we played the last show he played a Ruben and Peterson who are both kind of. The real problem stems from the existence of Patreon and the fact that this doesn't need to exist. People can do all the stuff that Patreon does themselves, and their platform or whatever it is lists shows you can subscribe too is not necessarily that convenient for anybody but okay what happened was now there's this huge boycott

1:46:04 of Patreon itself by everybody who sends them money for anybody. And that hurts all creators, all the creators and now they're getting all bent out of shape and they're calling in and bitching and moaning and they're talking to apparently the Patreon, you've got some ear face... No it's the boss You know, the platform protection team and I read the whole transcript. Yeah, I read the whole transcript. Transcript is funny and it's resulting in a lot of people that were making...I don't know let's say they made $10,000 a month now they're making six or five. They're getting killed! And that's because of their reliance on one

1:46:55 thing is it's a real, I think it was just a mistake in judgment to use these guys in the first place. But okay, but this is all because of these conferences that tell you to do this and these conferences that tell you to do that. And they're just the blind leading in the blind believe me! Well I think you're right that the conference's are incredibly unhelpful and they steer people in very traditional ways there's no innovation. After self-reflection I understand what my issue is I think i really had some hope coming from a quite a career in mainstream broadcasting radio and television when when podcasting kind of organically grew the biggest downside is that it exploded because of the iPod. I always found that to be a detractor uh and and I'd never named it podcasting Danny Gregoire as far as I'm concerned named at that, I think it's fantastic it really helped a lot

1:47:55 but it always tied it to the iPod and now we've moved beyond that. But I had hoped that people would see decentralizing as a way forward for the internet, and in 14-15 years we're right back to ground zero because people are relying now on all of these corporate commercial places for platforms where you don't need this. Now do you get amplification that can explode you virally, no. But for most people you don't even deserve to have an actual audience of any size or make any money because it probably just makes shit

1:48:40 I would prefer to see people using decentralized systems, building up core audiences who we've proven it will support you to the degree that is necessary and valid. And move forward that way got a lot of brain power smart people Ruben and Peterson these are smart guys they're arguing the fact that they don't see how idiotic it is What they're arguing about and how futile it is, and how they will never win over this instead of promoting open source decentralized systems that are in play. Even Bitbacker you know? You can do payment systems with crypto and makes it simpler for people I think that's my frustration It's just why are all these smart people... Get to work! I think that's my problem

1:49:28 I can see that. That is your problem, you have a problem and that's it? Yeah But this is not a new problem with you No but also just because you have this problem doesn't mean these issues aren't real for these people who've been...I would say It's like when they had the housing and mortgage crisis, and then that one guy on CNBC says oh well these idiots that took out all these mortgages screw them! Screw them. They deserve to go broke. These people that took out these mortgages during the housing crisis were advised to take out these housing...these mortgages. They were advised by experts. At podcast conferences

1:50:07 They were advised by experts to do this. Oh, don't worry about it you know the price is going to go up and you're gonna be able to pay for...they were advised and then because they were I wouldn't say they were stupid cause you get advised to do stuff if you don't know anything about it well yeah maybe you should change your tires. Yeah looks like then you need new tires well okay there's a lot of advice out there and because its bad advice your bent out of shape? No No, I'm just frustrated by over a decade of people doing the same stupid things and always being surprised when it doesn't work out or works out in a way that is not expected to them. Yeah as smart people

1:50:51 It's the it's the mind. I was taken aback when I saw Peterson and Rubin doing that video moaning and groaning about Patreon Yeah, I think that's what pushed me over the edge like holy crap What do you what are you bitching about move on? You know You know build up a simultaneous got your YouTube and whatever you got your patreon start mirroring it somewhere else where it's just A lot harder to be kicked off and build up the audience. And guess what? You might actually help a lot of creators in in the process Well, there ya go. There's your idealist ladies and gentlemen that is it this One person who was deplatformed which did show up in The New York Times

1:51:37 but was not discussed in the way I would have thought it was. This came out, what? Yesterday 23rd? Yeah yesterday Facebook has suspended Jonathan Morgan the chief executive of a top social media research firm after reports that he and others engaged in an operation to spread disinformation during the special election in Alabama last year So, the guy who runs the company that authored the report that is seen as THE proof that suppressed 3 million black Americans from voting has now by Facebook's own standards been accused of the exact same practice with the exact same amount of money, $100,000 and they've de-platformed him for it. But I guess everything is still valid with the report and we should not just look the other way or just not talk about the report anymore. Well that's irony! That's great irony! It's fantastic!

1:52:40 I have a three part. I don't know what Facebook thinks it's doing, but they're just in panic mode It must be having meetings wait a minute you said you said Facebook look like a buy oh No, I didn't say it wasn't about I'm not talking about the stock You said it would never go away There's no replacement there isn't yet USA Today is This is really a horrible piece of video and I fixed it as much as possible to get the interviewer's questions in. He talked to a couple middle school kids about social networks, which one they use and what they like and what they feel about it And here's his report from USA Today website

1:53:17 To say that Facebook had a challenging 2018 would of course be an understatement with all the hacking, the apologies and the hot water with politicians. How's that playing with younger generation? They couldn't care. I know you use it, but like you're really young. But like other old people? No, a lot of my friends have Instagram but I have no clue any of my friends that use Facebook. But I know Snapchat and Twitter. Not a lot of Twitter, mostly Snapchat and Instagram. They never use Facebook Is that because its an old person's product?

1:53:59 I don't really know, but they just kind of ignore it. They skip over that genre of social media and be like oh Instagram Snapchat, skip over Facebook and they kinda just go on so... How do you feel about privacy? The phone goes everywhere you go You're being tracked everywhere, ya know everywhere Creepy I'm kind of eee for me. It's a setting where you can turn it off but i feel like its always watching you Yeah, like it has an eye on its own that is staring at me when im on it Like even when Im making weird faces And then like I kinda think its weird that they have screen recording now So like it watches everything you do on the screen if you wanted to so

1:54:39 I love what these, you know...I have not read a report anywhere about this. I don't think they're wrong These kids like well You know you can they have screen recording where they see everything you're doing on the screen hell Yeah But it's not one of the things discussed in Congress but these kids seem to intuitively Know what's happening and there's yeah? Yes, you can turn it off but the eye is still watching me I love it. Put me some tape over it Oh my God So, um, my mom is on her phone 24 seven. She's on it so much that, um, uh, that she doesn't even want me looking at our activity to a point where it's like scary. There you go. There's the real issue there's the children and it's influenced by their parents. It's fantastic OTG people. Well, the kids aren't stupid. No they're not. They're not. Um,

1:55:41 The UK government, I think they already deployed this. They had facial...they were testing facial recognition in public or on the public and around the Westminster area This is...this facial recognition is really happening a lot The Amazon's doorbell What does their door...? Do they have a doorbell like ring? I guess And now they're building in facial recognition But it will also do facial recognition of people just on the street outside your door. It'll just keep doing that Wow Okay, well let's get back to politics Really? Yeah because thats all I got Well... I do have some funny stuff though

1:56:38 I have Maxine Waters triggered. Have you seen this clip? No, probably not every day in every way and the best way to do that is to stop talking about discrimination and start talking about the nation we're coming together as a people in spite of what you say thank you gentlemen I yield back gentleman's time has expired members are reminded to address their remarks to the chair the gentleman from Texas Reserves gentlelady from California thank you very much The gentleman, Mr. Kelly please do not leave because I want you to know that I am more offended as an African American woman than you will ever be and this business about making America great again it is your president that's dividing this country and don't talk to me about the fact that we don't understand what happens on the other no I will not yield no I will not yield okay

1:57:27 Don't tell me that we don't understand. That's the attitude that has been given toward women time and time again. The gentlelady will suspend, the chair wishes to remind all members they are to address their remarks to the chair. I respect you Chair but don't stop in the middle when you didn't stop him in the middle. And so I shall continue, don't you dare talk to me like that and think that somehow women don't understand what goes on on the floor of automobile dealers. Minded to direct her remarks to the chair. The general will continue to do that however i don't appreciate that you did not interrupt him when he was making those outrageous remarks

1:58:09 about him knowing more about discrimination than I know about discrimination. I resent that and I resent the remark about making America great again he's down here making a speech for this dishonorable president of the United States of America having said that, I reserved the balance of my time and no I do not yield not one second to you. Not one second! By time... by time She is the gift that keeps on giving she's the best hmm. I have another one

1:58:53 Well, actually before we do that I'd just like to do a little quick yellow vest update since that... Oh yes let's get back out of the country. Yeah well yes and again the reason is because no one is really reporting on it in fact the propaganda is now out France's yellow vest protesters changed tactics on Saturday for the day of action in Paris billed as Act 5 Of what have been violent confrontations in the capital Initially the capital was quiet as turnout was much lower But then pop-up protests began, catching the police on the hop at the Louvre around the statue of Jeanne d'Arc or in Montmartre. No group numbered more than a few hundred all streets remained open and fewer shops were boarded up

1:59:40 So the voiceover is actually saying there weren't as many people, it was a lot calmer. Not as many shops were boarded up and meanwhile the video is showing people spraying cops with fire extinguishers throwing electric scooters at them. It's nothing to worry about Outside Paris, a planned demonstration at the Palace of Versailles attracted just a handful of demonstrators. It had been shut in advance for the day. This is the sixth straight week of protests and concessions made by President Macron appear to have taken the sting out of the movement but it has cost lives. The latest man in Perpignan whose car hit a lorry that had been stopped on the road by picket line

2:00:24 bringing to 10 the number of deaths mostly in traffic accidents. This is propaganda of the highest order from Euronews because what really happened is that a lot of people who came from outside Paris, uh, in the first few weeks of these protests have now started these protests in their own towns and cities this has spread all throughout France The YouTube videos Let's show everything this and I see fear in these cops eyes Yeah, and there's real beating going on back and forth And that just the funniest thing is when they throw on the electric scooters at the cops. It's spreading the Netherlands We got a boots-on-the-ground from Lucas Taliama that it's spreading to The Hague

2:01:04 Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Amman is not huge but it's getting there. Portugal also jumping in. Good morning for the last two hours dozens of yellow vest protesters have been blocking as you can see the major accesses to the city of Porto they managed to block the roads for some minutes Then the police came and intervened and made them go away. But what they have been doing since then is to cross over and over the road in order to block the traffic. Yeah, it's kind of an interesting protest so they just go to the pedestrian crossing... And they just keep crossing?

2:01:47 I'd never seen it. I think it's a great idea, never seen it. I've never thought of the idea. You just do a circle, everyone's people crossing from left to right from right to left and then they just cross out about and they go back in the other direction and its very effective And if you say have you got for it, you gotta four way stop thing. You can just go around in a kind of going square keep walking. If you have enough people, you clogged the whole thing up forever in both directions and really is impressive to me I don't know about the Portuguese But the French just always impress me with what they're doing. And cops, Troll Room pointed out, cops are pulling their guns and not rubber bullet guns like pulling their sidearms that you know that they feel that threatened but the media is still... It's alright Macron fixed it everything's good nothing to worry about I wish we were like that in America

2:02:44 We only come out to be but most of the laws have changed make it very difficult to get anything started you can't have a general strike in the United States is and The unions have fallen apart. They were corrupt, you know, we're up now. We've been mind-controlled with the only time we go out on the street is for a Pinkie a pink pussy hat like oh okay now we'll go in March is sad Yeah, go Frenchies. But just looks like I think this is a much much deeper much Broader than is being reported it's hard to tell from what you can see on on YouTube Just the scale of it but if you really read the reports so this is not diminishing its growing It's just spreading out yeah we're good at flash mobs that will be doing America hey let's dance We're pissed off. We're gonna surprise dance on ya yeah

2:03:37 So, you know we've been accused of being a Trump-apologist podcast. Oh really? I've heard it. It's bullcrap of course but just to prove it...I got a kick out of this hate Trump medley Have you heard this one? I don't know! Where is it? Nobody Knows More Wait, is this about him about his big brain?! I'm sure that's something... Okay where did you pick this up from who made it You know, I don't know the source. It's just been floating around maybe super I got one of those two that'll play after this Okay, let's listen nobody knows more than Trump medley Nobody can do it like me nobody nobody can do it like Nobody stronger than me nobody has better toys than I do There is nobody bigger or better at military than I am nobody loves the Bible more than I do Nobody builds walls better than me. Nobody's better

2:04:32 To people with disabilities and men. Nobody's fighting for the veterans like I'm fighting for the veterans There is nobody that has done so much for equality as I have There is nobody more pro-Israel than I am There is nobody more conservative than me There is nobody that respects women more than I do Nobody would be tougher on ISIS, then Donald Trump There's nobody who ever had crowds like Trump has had There's nobody who understands... ...the horror of nuclear better than me. Nobody even understands it but me, is called devaluation! The sale of the uranium that nobody knows what it means... I know what it means! Nobody knows more about trade than me. Nobody knows the game better then I do. In a history

2:05:14 This country has ever known so much about infrastructure as Donald Trump. I know the H1B, i know the h2b nobody knows it better than me Nobody knows politicians better than I do Nobody knows more about taxes than I do Nobody knows more about debt then I do Nobody knows this system better then me Which is why...I alone can fix it! I'll tell you what Whatever he did became president doing it Give him that much I have the counter to this. This is Rachel Maddow, uh someone put- I think it's...this might be super cut Someone put this together It's in the show notes Someone put this together This is one episode of Rachel Maddow Just one episode Russia Russia Vladimir Putin Russia Russia Russia Russia hate Russia Russia Russia Putin Russia's Russia Russia Russia Russian Russian Russian Russian Russia Russia Moscow

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2:16:37 on with Brian Williams on MSNBC about the Russian face bag disinformation campaign? No. Oh my god! Well what?! I want to play some clips from this guy he just took it to such an incredible level That I had no idea what was really going on in the United States, how far the Russians have come in. Oh really? Yes! Just went outside now! Malcolm Nance with Brian Williams who we know lied He lied about a lot of things and he was the main guy at NBC News. And now he's making millions, now he's at MSNBC and he gets through the break-in does this 11th hour which I kind of like actually i'll watch it if I bump up into it here's his intro to Malcolm Nance with his creds

2:17:27 A new report out tonight reveals that Russian disinformation teams have targeted the special counsel. Two reports commissioned by the Senate Intelligence Committee and focused on the Internet Research Agents Control Farm, Robert Mueller indicted last February according to one of them well what is clear is that all of the messaging clearly sought to benefit the Republican Party and specifically Donald Trump The goal was to reinforce tribalism, to polarize and divide, to exploit societal fractures, blur the lines between reality and fiction. He wrote our trust in media entities and the information environment in government, in each other, and in democracy itself. The interference is still active and ongoing."

2:18:10 And notably, the trolls have tried to create and amplify the narrative that the whole... Can you imagine Brian Williams if you'd asked him five years ago do you think he will ever speak a sentence where you're talking about trolls? And notably, the trolls have tried to create and amplify the narrative that the whole investigation was nonsense. That Comey and Mueller were corrupt... ...and that the emerging Russia stories were a weird conspiracy pushed by liberal crybabies who else? The online posts received nearly 264 million engagements as they're called across platforms. That includes likes retweets shares

2:18:49 And whatever. So a bunch of bullcrap, right? Alright so bring in Malcolm Nance he's written the book about how the Russians crowned King Donald. What Russia has done here and where the true brilliance of this intelligence operation comes from is way back in the early 2000s, the Russian military conducted a strategic study and started carrying out a disinformation plan in which they said that instead of carrying out kinetic warfare against your enemies the best thing we can do is create a disinformation frame around that nation.

2:19:26 What's a disinformation frame? I have no idea what he is talking about. I like what he is doing here, it goes back to 2000! These Russians man... To the point where over time as we are constantly tearing them apart and feeding them with false information they would actually welcome an invasion so Russia has done that to the United States So we're welcoming the Russians to march in the Red Army? Yes, eventually. Maybe we're at that point maybe it's happened maybe that's what Trump is he is the invasion. An invasion so Russia has done that to the United States and it began way before 2016 as a matter of fact the earliest references I have with relation to Donald Trump shows that it started back in 2011 with Maria Butina

2:20:18 and the NRA contacts, contacts with the fundamentalist Christian right and the alt-right in the United States. Russia was pushing these disinformation themes then. Then in 2013 they stood up the Russian Federation Internet Research Agency which built Wow, I don't even know where to start to unpack that.

2:20:58 It started in 2011. They had... Is there some guy in a white coat and butterfly net standing behind him? Maybe, in this last clip! The Russian Internet Research Agency was the subcontractor to Russian military intelligence and the FSB Russia's national security agency And it was done at the cost of less than couple cruise missiles They now own the mindset of one third of this nation And by doing that, they have managed to now make us not believe anything that we believed before. That diversity was an American factor which made us greater. They have played on the themes of far-right conspiracy theorists from the 1960's—the John Birch Society, a sideline group in the farthest extremes of the libertarian parties.

2:21:52 This guy is actually saying that the Russians looked at the landscape and said, if we can bring back the John Birch Society people will go for it. They'll be all in and they six a third of the country now believes what they want to say, of course being the most anti-russian operation Makes sense. They have amplified racism To the point where the alt right Steve Bannon's own creation of gamers is now on the wholly owned subsidiary of of the Trump campaign and are believers in David Duke, the Ku Klux Klan Richard Spencer, the neo-Nazi and Robert Spencer, the Islamophobe to the point where they're mainstreamed. This is how effective this information warfare campaign has been carried out And let me tell you this report shows how they went after it to suppress the African American vote There's no doubt in my mind or anybody else's in the intelligence community that doesn't believe

2:22:53 took American citizens to assist them in really getting down to where these voters were who needed to be suppressed. And they did it in such a fashion, one of their Twitter groups had 366 thousand followers on it Malcolm Nance, this is why we ask you all the time to come on this broadcast. Scary stuff but it needs to be said and needs to be heard. Thank you sir so much for joining us. On it Wow Malcolm Nance. This is why we ask you all the time to come on this broadcast Scary stuff, but it needs to be said needs to be heard Thank You sir so much for joining us Scary stuff baby. It needs to be said needs to be heard. Thank you. Thank you for your courage Malcolm Nance what repressed African vote should be addressed

2:23:46 Let's say you're an African-American and you didn't vote. Was it because you were repressed from voting or was it because you didn't want to vote? It's because you're so stupid, you fell for the Russian propaganda! That's what being said. It's a racist... You're right, it is an insult to the black community There are plenty of people that don't vote because they look at the candidates and say I'm not voting for either one of them And so they don't vote And that none of the blacks liked Hillary. It wasn't her husband, it wasn't Barack that came out to vote for him and they weren't coming out to vote. Some did come out to vote for Trump but you know they were outliers so its not some plot because otherwise they would have all poured into the voting booths to vote for Hillary! That's what the thesis is. That's what the underlying thinking is in that comment. Bull crap. Exactly its racist

2:24:41 Maybe because he's black it can't be racist when he says maybe that's okay. Oh, this guy's black yeah, and then I would never guessed it Yeah Ah yes scary stuff. This needs to be said That should be our thing Okay So that's the way it goes you say so if I say scary stuff That's what you say needs to be said needs to be said all right, so let's try it again scariest off Needs to be said yeah good We're on it We can take the show on the road. The last time we hit it, I guarantee it. Yeah, we could take this show on the road. So here is Gutierrez grandstanding in Congress... Who's this? Gutierrez? This is Gutierrez. He's that radical Latino representative from Chicago and he's always making a scene. He just hates everything but did the kicker I get out of this is says I am not you got 45 seconds! I'm not gonna take my 45 seconds and he takes 1 minute 20

2:25:43 Okay, I saw this yeah. I saw this douchebag all right. He's going after a Bridgette Nielsen who by the way Did not look good. Sorry, just as an executive producer mode for a second she looked different She didn't look good. It's something was wrong about her whole looking during this this interrogation I didn't see that yeah, I was sorry she looked like normal no there was something weird about it I have to go back and maybe that she's changed your hair. Well. She's on her way out. She's on her way out. She's done. She's here we have the goose Gutierrez grandstanding and then I got a second clip of her responding, and right in the middle of the response he just walks out. He doesn't want to hear a word about it. This guy is the worst!

2:26:36 that during Christmas... Oh wait, more context is needed because not everyone understands politics and American politics. This is Kristen Nielsen she's the director of Homeland Security she is in overseas ICE and she is responsible for anything that has done with immigration control Prosecute, prosecution? No. Immigration border protection. Border security. Ripping children from mother's arms that's what I meant to say. I know have 45 seconds and won't take them all. Bull crap! But it is repugnant to me and astonishing to me that during Christmas

2:27:17 I like to call them the holiday seasons, to be inclusive. But during Christmas because the majority always wants to just call it Christmas that during Christmas... What's that got to do with it? A time in which we celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ a Jesus Christ who had to flee for his life With Mary and Joseph, thank God there wasn't a wall that stopped him from seeking refuge. I just... we can it's too late but maybe for next year we can do a new nativity scene with a wall and fleeing. With Mary and Joseph thank god there wasn't a wall that stopped him from seeking refuge in Egypt

2:28:02 Thank God that wall wasn't there and thank God there was an administration like this or he would have too, have perished on the 28th. On the day of innocence when Herod Order the murder of every child under two years of age. Maybe I haven't gone a lot to Bible school, but I know that part! No we're pretty sure you haven't gone to Bible school Thank God! Shame on everybody that separates children and allows them to stay at the other side of the border fearing death, fearing hunger, fearing sickness Shame on us for wearing our badge of Christianity during Christmas and allow the secretary to come here and lie Thank you time a gentleman has expired now couple things One how did he if he had 45 seconds? How come they let him go for an extra 45 is some seniority rule where you've been around long enough They kind of give you a little more leeway, okay. I

2:29:02 And the second part of this, what he's talking about I believe is that the administration cut some deal with Mexico. That all people seeking asylum in the United States coming through the Mexican border and I think he's probably talking more about Tijuana that the Mexican government has agreed that they will house people and while they're waiting for their asylum. Keep them on their side? Yeah, so is Tijuana now such a horrible place because it sounds like sickness and what did he say when he said a whole bunch of things about it yeah I don't have to bring hunger, bring sickness shame on us! So Tijuana doesn't seem like it's THAT bad

2:29:48 bad. Right, all right so yeah was that bad in the 40s maybe I don't think it's that bad now all right? So then she they throw it to her and she's just kind of rolling her eyes this guy you know they guys a lunatic! Yeah I don't know how the Chicagoans can keep voting this clown in but okay let's listen what she has to say. Secretary would care to respond to any of them. Only then to say that calling me a liar or fighting words am not a liar we've never had a policy for family separation I'm happy to walk The Gentleman through it again A policy of family separation would mean that any family I encountered in the interior, I would separate. It would mean that any family found at port of entry, I would separate. It would mean that every single family I found illegally crossing we would separate We did none of those What we did do is uphold the laws Congress has passed and prosecuted those who choose to come here illegally As far as not being compassionate let me just tell you what i have done Of course he couldn't be bothered to stay so im happy to tell the rest of the committee

2:30:44 Hey walked out, but idiot I find it annoying these guys is grandstanders Kind of there's a new spook that. I don't know if she's been around or we just lose Yeah, and doesn't news where we don't have a new spook jingle Let me see what her name was now her name is Samantha Vinograd and she's another Fast-track our last name. I'll look her up Victor India November Oscar Golf Romeo Alpha Delta Do it in letters. We're not we were not on a CB Don't you ever call me a CBer again?

2:31:28 Vinograd, V-I-N-O-G-R-A-D. You know it's interesting Samantha because you've spent a lot of time in the Middle East you understand walls that work walls that don't work let me put that tweet that the president just posted when he says the steel slat barrier there you see this steel fence in effect that the president wants to build but do you know how individuals if they want to get into the United States from Mexico get around a fence a steel slab barrier like this? Well, first of all there are spikes at the top of this fence. I feel like the president googled Middle Ages and tweeted something out rather than consulting with actual security experts or architects about what could work in this kind of scenario. I was in Ramallah and I saw the wall in the Palestinian territories between the Palestinian territories and Israel Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly spoke with the President earlier this week and said build a wall it'll help well guess what terrorists

2:32:24 other illegal immigrants in the Middle East do. They build tunnels under walls, those spikes don't deter that kind of activity and I just want to point out The president's own State Department doesn't even think that this wall or steel slats is going to solve the problem of illegal immigration. On Monday they issued a whole strategy for combating illegal immigration that has nothing to do with the wall and some of those very same employees will be furloughed if this government shuts down. Furloughed? Don't furlough me bro! Alright, I remember now She went, yeah go ahead. Is she spooked? She looks like a spook Well here I'm gonna just read off of few things and you tell me Alright

2:33:03 She's got an MA in studies from Georgetown. She worked for the US Department of the Treasury in Baghdad, and then at various positions for the administration of Obama where she worked with the National Security Council as a director for Iraq... Yes! Director for international economic senior advisor to the national security advisor. Uh-huh? And then in 2013 went to work for Goldman Sachs focusing on public private sector partnerships I spot the spook, spot the spook Everybody wants to spot the spook

2:33:41 There is a thought going around, a rumor like an idea that you remember when they had the caravan come rushing up? You know there's charging us from Guatemala. Yes and a lot of them went to the Texas side in a lot most of them with the Tijuana toward Tijuana yes And it was Mattis who was told as another reason they got maybe got rid of him he was told to send some troops down there He didn't want to do it Send some troops down there and its rumored that the reason he sent the troops to Texas instead of where the action was, which is Tijuana. Was because there's something like supposedly 3,000 tunnels

2:34:18 underneath the walls and barriers in Texas where these guys are sneaking in. And the idea was, is there some code or something that came out of this? We're going to storm the country through these tunnels and so the army had to be there to keep that from happening. Don't know anything about it more than that but I agree most of the action of cocaine and arresting us all through tunnels And they build their tunnel billers digging, digging, digging. Right. You know that fence isn't going to do anything about that. Now I was reading the newer book from since I got the soap, I picked up the book again Theodore Kaczynski it's called The Anti-Technology Revolution and is his version of how we should combat the technology

2:35:07 Yeah, just combat technology in general. And he talks again there about the unintended consequences of technology I call a wall or slatted fence or whatever you want to call it is Of course a version of technology and yeah and we have no idea Trump doesn't know No one knows I think the tunnels yet that could happen A whole bunch of other things could happen because this wall that we do not know about So it's not quite as black and white as everyone sees it, and I agree. I think the tunnels is actually a pretty... you know? Yeah! I think tunnels in our future. Tunnels. Don't you think so?! Yeah, tunnels. Tunnels are in our future. Well, it's just in our future with Elon Musk and his tunnel. Yeah the more I think about having a tunnel in Los Angeles the stupider I think it is

2:35:55 Oh, it's fine. No, it's not fine. Apparently they have trouble because the Angelinos are so freaked out about earthquakes and there is a big one coming that they're not using the subway. They built a big subway system in LA which runs all over the place when it's not like New York or Chicago even or anything like in Europe or even Russia but its there and But the Angelenos won't go, you know they're like no I don't want to be in that thing when the whole thing collapses. They're like freaked out even in the Bay Area where we have this same problem and we would go under there...I'm always in fact the kids who talk about this when your into Bart which is our subway elevated and when you go under the bay to get to San Francisco everybody kind of holds their breath for the seven minutes it takes

2:36:50 I can imagine why. But it's packed with people and they go when they do it, but I don't know what the point of the LA one is It just doesn't seem to have any real rhyme or reason. I haven't been on have you? No! no. I'd like to go on it. I tend to just stay home and yell at the chemtrails Yeah well that would be... That's pretty much what I do. Yell at the chemtrails- I stopped yelling at Fox News I just yell at the chemtrails now We have quite the medley. We have one, two three four Christmas songs that we're going to share with you Thanks a secret agent Paul thanks to Sir Chris Wilson and Actually I'm going to carry a couple of them over because it's just it's too much That is the non the non Christmas related ones oh yes So we appreciate that thank you all very much Merry Christmas everybody and we'll talk to you just before the New Year's

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