Episode 1096 · Saturday, 22 December 2018

Algorithmic Amplification

Cybersecurity firms face scrutiny over domestic election interference while the Trump administration pivots on Middle East troop presence and federal firearms regulations.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 57m listen | 37 chapters
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The Senate Intelligence Committee released two reports detailing Russian social media interference by the Internet Research Agency, specifically alleging that Instagram and Facebook campaigns targeted African-American voters. New Knowledge, an Austin-based cybersecurity firm led by former State Department officials, authored the findings despite recent revelations from the New York Times that the firm’s own founders used deceptive Russian-style tactics during the Alabama special election. These domestic operations involved creating fake personas to influence the race between Doug Jones and Roy Moore, raising questions about the true source of digital disinformation.

In legal developments, Judge Emmett Sullivan delayed the sentencing of Michael Flynn after a contentious hearing regarding Flynn’s unregistered lobbying for Turkey. Simultaneously, the Turkish Foreign Minister claims President Trump is facilitating the extradition of Fethullah Gulen as the U.S. prepares to withdraw 2,000 troops from Syria. On the domestic front, the Trump administration officially banned bump stocks while the Trump Foundation agreed to dissolve following a lawsuit by the New York Attorney General. Meanwhile, Canada implemented new mandatory breathalyzer laws allowing police to demand samples from any driver without reasonable suspicion, a move civil rights activists warn will lead to widespread profiling.

Al Sharpton provides a moment of levity with his unique pronunciation of the word giddy as jitty, while the hosts explore the irony of the show's back office still running on the aging Squirrel Mail platform. Sir Francis of SRQ and Sir Geoffrey B. Marcy join the ranks of the No Agenda Peerage during a formal knighting ceremony. The program concludes with a look at a mysterious luminescent cloud over California that the National Weather Service attributes to a meteor, though evidence suggests a possible aborted rocket launch from Vandenberg Air Force Base.


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CHAPTER 01 / 37 Discussion

Homemade Sauerkraut Recipes and Podcast Value-for-Value Network

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program with a discussion on the simplicity of making homemade sauerkraut using only cabbage and salt. They introduce the "value-for-value" model, highlighting a new word cloud feature created by a listener in Australia. The hosts transition into the day's news cycle for December 20, 2018.

sauerkraut· cabbage· fermentation· value-for-value· word cloud· austin· silicon valley

00:00 Oh no, Spuzzum's in trouble! Smacking you with new knowledge and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in downtown Austin, Tejas. In the Cludio! In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where i'm just back from making a batch of delicious homemade sauerkraut. I'm John C Devorah It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! In The Mornin' And the recipe will be made available in these show notes... won't it?

00:40 Well, you know it's just so simple. I mean once you do enough research and find out how to make it this is idiotic that why are you buying this stuff? What is the basis of sauerkraut 800 grams of cabbage and 1 tablespoon of salt Mixed together vinegar no vinegar. No God, no vinegar. No water That's it its cabbage salt mixed together boom Kraut there are some intermediate steps be careful about certain things but Just a few intermediate steps just a few well here we are everybody It's December 20th 2018 and I found the news to be interesting these last four days Yes, yes, yeah, I picked up some interesting stuff

01:32 Had some research. I liked it. I don't know it was good does a lot going on yeah, what did you pick up? I got a lot of random stuff. I didn't find any thematic things that would make me go ooh and ah oh Can I who and I you then or try ya know knock me out Yeah, no there. It is contributing to the one contributing to the word cloud Thank you very much. That's that's a new feature now. I think that The clog walk is doing Tom from Australia for our trans. He's doing a word cloud over the art of each episodes It's interesting I like it now, it's another part of our value for value network you never know what shows up? It's always valuable somehow that is so valuable it is a report came out big Senate commissioned report

CHAPTER 02 / 37 Discussion

Senate Intelligence Committee Reports on Russian Social Media Influence

The Senate Intelligence Committee released two reports detailing Russian interference in the 2016 election via the Internet Research Agency. NPR reports that these findings suggest Russian trolls specifically targeted African-American communities to suppress voter turnout. The data indicates that Instagram saw higher engagement for fake Russian content than Facebook, though the hosts question the validity of "engagement" metrics.

senate intelligence committee· internet research agency· russian trolls· instagram· npr· voter suppression· african-american voters

02:23 And of course some of the news outlets seem to have an advanced copy of this report the day before. I think this came out Monday, or maybe Tuesday? This is the Select Senate Intelligence Committee and they've published two reports that they commissioned. The first one is titled Computational Propaganda Research Project from the University of Oxford. for today's presentation. The second one is from a company based in Austin, which caught my eye called New Knowledge and another thing caught my eye the title of this report is the tactics and tropes of the Internet Research Agency that would be the Russian troll farm And what caught my mind or caught my eye was the word tropes haven't we heard this used a little more I mean?

03:17 I recall saying, hey what is this tropes thing they're using? Last week or the week before maybe even. It was a while ago Are you in the shower? Yeah! Knock me out! No no no You had to cut me back Well what are ya doing just tell me help me out I'm printing the clip list and forgot to do that Oh okay Trope, meme, cliche. We've talked about the word trope. It's one of those terms I've had this theory over the years, which is there are certain terms if you read them or hear them or see them. You know what? The political standing is that the person doing the writing trope as a left wingers term it's like chilling is another way to see somebody used the word chilling right tends to be someone that leans to the left. That would make sense when we dive into this report a little bit but I just thought it was interesting that the word tropes had showed up were true

04:19 or just before this report came out. I'm going to give you a background on this, actually i'm not going to, but I am going to give you a background from NPR and because this report has now proven once and for all that the Russians most definitely helped, not just helped but probably elected Trump as president Uh, yes. And the way they did it was not through advertising! No no no! No that was nothing compared to what actually went on and that was the fake accounts The fake accounts were so good

04:57 that they made 3 million African Americans stay home and not vote in this election, and that's why Hillary Clinton lost. And NPR explains... Two reports out today provide the clearest picture yet of the extent to which Russia went to influence voters ahead of the 2016 presidential election The reports focus on a Russian troll factory's use of nearly every major social media platform from Facebook to YouTube NPR Justice Reporter Ryan Lucas has combed through the documents and joins us now. Hey, Ryan! Hi there So who exactly authored these reports? Well this is the work of... I like how he combed through the documents Does that mean he really looked at them or just with doing what just three brushes What does it mean combed through them is this the analyst? Let the clip play! I'm gonna wait until you're back

05:52 Heather. So who exactly authored these reports? Well, this is the work of private researchers and cybersecurity experts and what they did is... And note the private researchers and security experts that's kind of code for this Austin startup company. Examine the activities of this Russian troll farm that we've talked a lot about now. The reports are based on data that the social media companies and the Senate Intelligence Committee provided them. Important to remember that the committee is investigating Russia's interference in the 2016 election, it views its role as getting to the bottom of what the Russians did and then explaining that to the American public. That's why we're able to see these reports. That, of course stands in contrast to the special counsels investigation which has focused on criminal conduct and prosecuting those who broke the law. What do these new reports add? That is actually new

06:40 Right. Well, first off what they confirm bottom line is the big picture conclusions that the US intelligence community came to which is that Russia's social media manipulation was designed to sow discord – to divide Americans and hurt Hillary Clinton and ultimately help Donald Trump but They also provide a greater level of detail than we've previously had. They show that the IRA built up fake personas across all sorts of social media platforms, that lent them legitimacy but what's really interesting is the research shows that the Russians specifically targeted African-American communities at a higher rate than any other And the Russians also pushed voter suppression narratives to a degree that social media companies themselves have played down. So, OK so you say the Russians targeted African-American communities more than any other community? How did they do that? Oh yeah! How just how did they do this?! Well these efforts were focused on developing an audience and even recruiting assets – people

07:34 in the real world to say stage rallies. Now, one of the reports says that a main message that was pushed to African American voters was that it was best to sit out the election, to boycott the election. That served their interests. Okay this is to suppress turnout? Right. And then one example of a fake persona that was created by the IRA that got a lot of traction is an Instagram account set up with the username of at blackstagram and it had more than 300 000 followers. One of the things that these reports made clear is that the Russians leveraged Every major social media platform Instagram had largely stayed under the radar. That's no longer the case These reports say that Instagram was actually a huge part of Russia's efforts online For example, one of the report says that fake Russian content on Facebook received 76 point five million engagements on Instagram Fake Russian content earned more than two times as many engagements Wow Okay, just it is almost done this clip but stop there

08:29 You're talking apples and oranges when you're talking engagement. I looked just the other day at my Twitter statistics for a tweet I sent out, and I saw one person had created three engagements! So how do you do that? Well if you look... you saw it first then you liked it That's the second one If you retweeted it that's a third so one user can create three engagements on Instagram The reason why it's really apples to oranges is while you cannot retweets Just scrolling by will count as a view and the process of engaging on Instagram is just going through timeline, double tapping on the picture. You don't even have to look at the comment or anything and this is people do this incessantly. Double tap, double tap, double tap. So that's got huge engagement doesn't necessarily mean it was different from Facebook.

09:19 And researchers say, importantly looking ahead that the Russians have shifted a lot of their activity to Instagram since the election. Which is an important point! The Russians are still using social media to try to influence Americans right? That's absolutely right and it's really important point to make that Russians continue to use fake accounts on these platforms for nefarious purposes. You gotta stop with illogical... Every once in awhile you got to be logical here if all that's true and the Russians can do this, and they're doing it as we speak. How come they haven't done it to stop this stupid investigation? They're trying really hard! They are so powerful that they can change the election but they apparently cannot stop this investigation.

CHAPTER 03 / 37 Discussion

New Knowledge Cybersecurity Firm and Political Bias Allegations

New Knowledge, an Austin-based cybersecurity startup, is identified as a primary author of the Senate reports on Russian disinformation. The company's leadership includes former State Department officials under Hillary Clinton and is backed by investors with ties to the CIA and Chinese firms. Discrepancies are noted between the firm's claims of Russian-led voter suppression and NPR's own reporting on why black voters stayed home in 2016.

new knowledge· capital factory· james woolsey· hillary clinton· state department· alliance for securing democracy· npr

10:00 So let's take a look at this company new knowledge for just a brief second. We'll come back to him there in Austin startup they started the capital factory I know the capital factory well, you know Jason over there and so kind of like an incubator where their business model is selling desks. You better or one of those just rent your office here? As I was saying, it's an incubator. Like all incubators they have you know what do you call them? Their mentors and they rent you a desk of course that is exactly what it is That's what an incubator isn't they take stock in exchange for that but also there are some other interesting investors we have the here it is The GVV which is a Chinese based investor

10:49 And then we also have the, let's see Lux Capital which was set up in 2011 by former CIA director under Bill Clinton James Woolsey and they're also a partner in this company. Now if you look at this company's homepage newknowledge.com what they do is the following... So hold on a second! You tell me that Chinese and ex-CIA guys are Promoting a kind of narrative, we'll use that word to more or less I'd say smear Trump because he didn't win the election logically or legitimately. Although the CIA's been out to get Trump since day one and there's no coincidence here? Let's take it a little further both co-founders of the company worked in the State Department in cyber initiatives under Hillary Clinton

11:47 They are a member of the Alliance for Securing Democracy, which is counseled by Mike Chertoff, Bill Kristol, Mike Morrell, John Podesta, Mike Rogers. I mean this is it's yeah... It's obviously a shill but what's interesting is this company does do a certain kind of business Right there on the homepage, protecting brands from social media disinformation attacks. New Knowledge is a cybersecurity company specializing in disinformation defense for highly visible brands under attack by coordinated disinformation campaigns through machine learning and AI we detect threats and provide brand manipulation protection before damage is done! And you know so they have big clients and one of their clients is that

12:37 is the advisory council or the Alliance for Securing Democracies. That's one of their clients, this is who they work for So it's obvious that they are, as you already said just by using the word trope kind of shows their left leaning. But if you look at the entire... I'm not going to read anything from this report John it's a marketing report that you and I would have been proud of A consultancy with graphs and diagrams and colorful shit spouting off the page and numbers. Oh yes you would! And their conclusion is indeed that Russia succeeded with huge

13:14 huge amounts of social engineering through accounts they manage, not through the ads but through accounts. They managed to keep 3 million black Americans from coming out to vote Which, interestingly is exactly the same amount of people that came out in addition to the black vote when Barack Obama ran for president...ran for re-election in 2012. You can see the graph it goes up and then comes right down. Do they show here? Here's what I'd want to know immediately. The graph of the black Americans who didn't show up to vote

13:50 which was the number they have, the black Americans who did show up to vote when Barack Obama was running and the black American... There goes his effort. And the black Americans who didn't show up in the previous election with George W Bush No, they don't go back to... well they do. They have a graph and timeline and it's kind of flat and you see it start to move up in 2008 but not really the real upward swing was 2012 according to their graph But, and otherwise it was kind of... So I would compare the 2004 election to the 2016 election. And that would be my baseline for saying how the blacks normally vote. Yeah unfortunately, I don't think that works because they didn't do it by percentages but by absolute numbers

14:38 So, yes it was more than 2004 but that could also be population. Wait a minute you mean it was more than 2004? It was more than 2004. The Hillary vote... No! Yes. ...was more then the vote in 2004 then what did this is making no sense to me at all?! What they're saying is that the vote in 2012, the Hillary vote uh no the Obama re-election vote, it was up three million from 2008 And that- What? Sorry. So what? Exactly. In fact, NPR in their own reporting on the same day contradicts this. It's estimated that millions of people who voted for Barack Obama in 2012 stayed home during the 2016 presidential election and many of those non voters were black for this political season one big question is whether African Americans still feel like they have a home in the Democratic Party, a party that year after year depends on their votes

15:39 NPR political correspondent Asma Khalid reports from Cleveland. Many black voters I talk to say they have been loyal Democrats for years, and yet hardly anything has changed in their communities Ifeolu Claytor is a 23-year old working with the Ohio Young Black Democrats. He says his party has taken black votes for granted and that's something that needs to change clearly because black millennials will just stay at home it's not 1980 where people are still like kind of fresh like our parents just got the right to vote. Claytor feels like democrats are too focused on courting middle class white voters focusing on WASP middle class issues is not going to win in 2018 or 2020. But his friend and fellow Democrat Gabrielle Jackson insists the situation is improving In 2016, she says some candidates simply refuse to engage with black voters This year is different

16:32 We've had almost every gubernatorial candidate, we'll have them all by May by the primary come and talk to us about our issues and things that affect them. And Jackson says if politicians don't they shouldn't expect votes these people are recognizing that in order to win you cannot ignore us so maybe it wasn't the Russians but maybe it was I don't know NPR seems a bit contradictory there and their reporting now this here's the line I liked 1980, when our parents were first allowed to vote. Yes! I know... Hey man don't you know that was the first year they were allowed to vote? 1980 when our parents are first allowed to vote? Yeah Okay well that's an interesting sense of history Well i think what he means there is if you look at the uh... When were they allowed to vote

17:26 They were allowed to vote after that amendment was passed. Which amendment? Yes, but I think he's referring to the Civil Rights Act for some reason. Civil Rights Act what was that in the 60s? Well that's not 1980. No! But if you were born in... So when Reagan got elected If you were born in 1960 then you would be able to vote in the 1980 election isn't that the point that he's making Even though it's wrong. So his parents were born in the 1960s is what you said? I think, look...I'm just trying to decipher this as well. I think what the guy said meant is they were born right before the Civil Rights Act and they could actually vote uh in the 80s You could vote before the Civil Rights Act Of course you could! I don't want to belabor this because it's NPR It's stupid Hello?! It's stupid

18:23 Just pointing it out for their lack of history. I mean when you get kids coming home from school saying this crap You know Christopher Columbus was a slaver and that's what he's best known for that Martin Luther King Freight freed the slaves my favorite one that I got from one of mine Oh, that's a good one right out of grammar school wonder what he's just kids thinking when he says that I'm thinking he someone told him this oh So this new knowledge company, which is only two years old came out of their non-profit lobbying organization called Data for Democracy. And this was set up when they were all working in the State Department and luckily I was able to find one of these cofounders Rene Duresta

CHAPTER 04 / 37 Discussion

Data for Democracy and the Origins of Disinformation Research

Rene Duresta and Jonathan Morgan founded Data for Democracy, a collective that eventually led to the creation of New Knowledge. In an interview with Kara Swisher, Duresta explains how the group transitioned from tracking ISIS and anti-vaccination narratives to monitoring "manipulated narratives" for brands. The hosts point out that Morgan was focused on the "alt-right" rather than Russia immediately prior to the 2016 election.

data for democracy· rene duresta· jonathan morgan· kara swisher· isis· anti-vax· social listening

19:10 Who co-founded the outfit with Jonathan Morgan, which is a fun name to search on And I happen to pick up a little snippet of an interview that she did with Kara Swisher swisher Yeah So data for democracy's a data science collective. There's about 3,000 members and it is much bigger than just disinformation. There's channels in there where people are looking at vehicular traffic fatality data, or people are looking at gerrymandering voter registration. It's just a collective of data scientists who were interested in using their skills to make a difference in the world mostly social good projects One of the channels in there is related to disinformation and misinformation. When we started realizing the extent to which this was a problem, I began doing some advising in Congress and at the time I was actually working at a supply chain logistics company that I had helped found. It got to be a little bit difficult explaining why I worked in supply chain logistics but also this was like my passion project so we decided that we would spin up a policy team at Data for Democracy whereby we could do

20:14 a little bit of lobbying advocacy work as independent tech, independent techies basically. New Knowledge is a company that builds detection and mitigation technologies specifically for manipulated narratives so there is social listening where brands will get alerted to... Social listening! You know they have 500 mentions of Coca-Cola for example What New Knowledge does is we ascertain whether or not those mentions are organic, or if they're a kind of coordinated campaign to impact the reputation of the brand. And then right around the same time I met Jonathan Morgan who's the founder of New Knowledge and we met because we were asked to do some analysis of extreme- Stop stop stop! We've lost the plot

21:05 No, she's the data for democracy growth. This came after new knowledge? I'm going to tell you...no exactly the opposite they started data for democracy when they were working for Hillary Clinton in the State Department and then as disinformation started to crop up they saw an opportunity for business so they say i don't know if the CIA investment or the Chertoff group any of those guys had anything to do with that decision but then they started a new knowledge Okay of new knowledge and we met because we were asked to do some analysis of extremist content on social media specifically isis now jonathan was one of the uh authors of the isis twitter

21:44 They were by Congress. She doesn't say who in Congress. That's where they really went in there and the same kind of work that Gilad Lutat and I had done on mapping the anti-vax conversation, and the way that they were using kind of affinity marketing and co-opting hashtags and trying to grow their numbers trying to look a lot bigger than they were Jonathan was doing very similar types of analysis on ISIS and nonviolent extremism There were a lot of parallels in how the technology was being used. You know, the conspiracy theorists were relying on these new algorithmic amplification megasomes that are connecting with each other...

22:19 to spread their message and ISIS was building a virtual caliphate. Which both things at the time were largely being run completely undisturbed because nobody could convince the social platforms that this was worth their time. But it's because they're using them exactly the way they were built, you know what I mean? In fact, the week before the election Jonathan Morgan was tweeting and writing up media, and all of this isn't the show notes. Writing up medium pages and pages not about Russia no alt-right alt right KKK that's who oh they're all over there even though Trumps gonna lose watch out alt right has captured they've dominated Facebook ah! Not a word about the Russians

CHAPTER 05 / 37 Discussion

New York Times Exposes Democratic Tech Experts' Alabama Tactics

The New York Times reported that Democratic tech experts, including Jonathan Morgan of New Knowledge, used "Russian-style" deceptive tactics during the Alabama special Senate election to support Doug Jones against Roy Moore. The project involved creating fake personas on Facebook and Twitter to influence the outcome. The hosts argue this proves that domestic political operatives use the same manipulation techniques they attribute to foreign actors.

new york times· alabama senate race· doug jones· roy moore· jonathan morgan· disinformation· election interference

22:59 And so then they obviously were tasked just recently to create this new narrative, which you could do with data for anything you want. It's really a big piece of fluff but what happened this morning and this is why I think it's interesting big bombshell news in the New York Times secret experiment in Alabama Senate race imitated Russian tactics I shall read you a few paragraphs. Oh brother! As Russia's online election machinations came to light last year, a group of democratic tech experts decided to try out similarly deceptive tactics in the fiercely contested Alabama Senate race

23:36 according to people familiar with the efforts and a report on its results. The secret project carried out on Facebook and Twitter was likely too small to have significant effect on the race in which the Democratic candidate was designed to help Doug Jones edged out the Republican Roy Moore, but it was a sign that American political operatives of both parties have paid close attention to the Russian methods which some fear may come to taint elections in the United States One participant in the Alabama project, Jonathan Morgan is the chief executive of New Knowledge a small cybersecurity firm that wrote a scathing account of Russia's social media operations in 2016 election. These guys use their own tactics or the tactics that they accuse the Russians of to only slightly just slightly too small really do anything to slightly alter the results of the Alabama Senate race

24:33 Oh, to push it towards Stacey. Uh no the other guy Jones. Why okay? So it's the same people! Yes but how does it make any sense we've already determined that these people are lefties They want the social good, they got all the right phrases. They want the right buzzwords so why would these same people go into Alabama to screw the lefty that's running against a white guy? You completely misunderstood it! Okay... That's why I asked you original question It was designed to help Doug Jones I thought he is the Republican Moore is the Republican Oh I'm thinking of Stacy, I think into other race What state is this? Alabama

25:19 Where's the one what was Stacy who cares who cares don't get and don't get lost on that I do want to know why kids. I don't want to lose track of the plot here The Stacey the one woman who ran for something in one of these states? I forgot already Was the real lefty that should have been helped if they're gonna help anybody she almost won I Don't know what that I don't know how that contributes to the story The point but it would a contribution stories Why would you have because I was mixed up The way you presented the story, it sounded as though they were helping the Republicans. No! I read it verbatim from the New York Times. Okay... The secret project carried on on Facebook and Twitter was likely too small to have a significant effect on the race in which the Democratic candidate was designed to help. Who? Doug Jones who edged out the Republican Roy S Moore. Okay, Roy Moore and... Yes

26:15 So, but they... Oh wait. This is not the most recent election? No! The Moore thing? Yes yes yes yes. Oh the special election. Yesssss now you're with me. Okay so this company... Oh that guy, okay well... That guy Moore was a loser I mean it doesn't... That's beside the point. This company that is now being touted as the cybersecurity expert firm that can prove that the Russians made Trump win by suppressing black Americans, millions of them did this exact same thing to a small degree in this special election these guys are they may have done the Russian stuff for all I know but that's what's being touted as the proof

27:05 the proof that this took place. Okay, well if they did that in that Moore election then it means they did in these other elections Thank you very much It's possible they're responsible for the woman in Arizona long time ago They'll vote any Republican as US Senator somehow this Democrat won And Beto came pretty close to winning in a really staunch Republican state. So these guys are using this technology that they've discovered, or they think they have, to slant the elections! These guys should be jailed!" And remember they're in Austin Texas? The whole Beto thing was you know as a Texas

27:46 Texas event obviously and it didn't work. So maybe you still need your traditional ways of marketing and mind control, which of course they almost worked It almost worked but yeah I would say that is a Possibility these guys did that they certainly know how to do it needs to get underway if there's anything in Arizona The Arizona thing has always concerned me it really makes no sense to me that this that two women One's a Republican, one is a Democrat. The Democrats or the Republicans always win that state it was John McCain seat and it goes to this Democrat for some reason? Okay well hold on a second so now you're going to tell me that these kind of tactics actually work I'm going to yeah

28:34 Because I agree. I think they do, I think the internet is a massive mind controlling machine and if you have some of the elements right? I think you can do a lot particularly if you can meld mainstream media into the loop. They've always been in the loop Well there's no loop without them The social networks need the mainstream and mainstream needs to social network It's a continuous loop that they need each other So I would say that all these contested elections All need to be done over again. No? But how do you stop what they did? You don't, but it's the same thing and it happens everywhere! Newspapers are subjective, television advertising political advertising... It's what we do We mind control people in America Here take this pill, you'll live longer Come on this is our foam finger number one

29:31 And now we do it on Facebook. And that's okay? I'm sure Instagram really did it, yeah. This report is something that every marketer should take a look at because it's showing you how you can take data just any old data really and convince your client you did a good job in giving them the answer they wanted to hear With a lot of pretty colors. Yeah, that's what you're impressed with I can tell at most And they have a lot of examples of these memes that were created They were so stupid I mean, I did not see a single meme there that looked like it would do anything. But somehow the Blackstagram Instagram account with 300 thousand followers translated to three million black Americans staying home and that's why Hillary lost! It's well this yeah... Well i'm gonna go visit this company. I want to meet him now they're right up the street

CHAPTER 06 / 37 Discussion

Political Data Scaling and Direct Marketing History

The discussion shifts to the history of political marketing, comparing modern data scaling to the direct mail techniques of Richard Viguerie during the Reagan era. Brad Parscale's 2016 strategy is cited as an example of using massive scale rather than subtle psychological manipulation. The hosts conclude that while both parties use these tools, the impact of small social media accounts is often overstated by the media.

brad parscale· richard viguerie· michael moore· direct marketing· republican party· democratic party· scale

30:28 Yeah, you should go in there and get a job. You're making more money than you're making on the show! Hey can you guys make me president? That would be fun but this of course... It doesn't take a lot of these to think that I think the point is is that uh Judge Roy Moore thing was a good example which is I was confused and I'm sorry That's all right it was uh Is that a lot of these elections at this point because we both know and everybody listens to the show knows the Democrat Republican parties are pretty much the same And it's just a matter of the way they slant things. Yeah, and so the elections are close these are not elections funded by the same people yeah they're close and there generally speaking one guy will win or lose by 1% to 2% of the vote and So it doesn't really take much to tweak it a little bit to get the other guy to win no, and that's where I think the danger is but

31:26 Both parties have access to the same way of doing things. For a long time, Republicans always said, well, all the Democrats are so far ahead of us when it comes to using data. They're so far ahead of us when it comes to producing documentaries which means that Michael Moore one guy is very successful and has watched documentaries And so now everyone's doing documentaries and they're getting their computer together. But before that, during the Reagan administration when Richard Vigery was a very famous direct marketing guy who has written number of books on the topic

32:07 Everyone pointed him and say we're never gonna win because we don't have the technology. We don't know what we're doing when it comes to direct marketing, right? It's just the same you know, it's like a but say well we learned from learn from Brad Pascal who did the from the. I was at the PBS interview. We learned that really it was just about scale, spending $100 million dollars, you know, spending it on people who would likely vote for Trump. That was pretty much all they did so you still need scale. You still need lots of money and you to repeat it over and over again

32:43 Yeah, 300 thousand followers on some obscure Instagram account is not going to keep some grandma who doesn't even know what Instagram is from voting. She's not gonna vote because she doesn't like the candidate. We already heard... And she won't vote for a Republican so should stay home! Yeah we heard that's exactly what we heard from NPR's own reporting on the same day they report that Clearly, clearly it was the Russian troll farm. Very great messaging there did the best marketers in the world We should hire them to promote no agenda we should I find it despicable that I wonder if they could ever sell a car in this country There's such great marketing people Yeah So there's your deconstruction of what you'll be hearing a lot of in the coming few days that That's what happened It's a fact Russia did it impeach Trump

33:39 I do beseech you must impeach. Yeah, well that's good. That was good. It was outstanding. I couldn't give you a clip of the day for this. No there is not enough clips. There are no clips. I have just a few loose things to loose clips and want to get rid off the short. This is since we're talking about collusion with these types of companies so we always had CrowdStrike in our sites since they are staffed by Ukrainian Ukrainians who hate Russia and and also have a lot of intelligence investment behind them. This is Sidney Powell, author of License to Lie on Comey and the CrowdStrike collusion. I think it goes back to 2012 Lou what we really need disclosed as the FISA court decision and know who the private contractors are that Mr. Comey gave unlimited access to the raw FISA intel too. I think one of them was Fusion GPS The other might have been CrowdStrike

CHAPTER 07 / 37 Discussion

Sidney Powell on CrowdStrike and FISA Court Access

Attorney Sidney Powell discusses allegations of collusion involving James Comey and private contractors like CrowdStrike and Fusion GPS. Powell claims these entities were granted unauthorized access to raw FISA intelligence and the NSA database for private profit. The hosts suggest these connections represent a significant political scandal involving Ukrainian interests.

sidney powell· crowdstrike· fisa court· james comey· fusion gps· nsa database· ukraine

33:39 I do beseech you must impeach. Yeah, well that's good. That was good. It was outstanding. I couldn't give you a clip of the day for this. No there is not enough clips. There are no clips. I have just a few loose things to loose clips and want to get rid off the short. This is since we're talking about collusion with these types of companies so we always had CrowdStrike in our sites since they are staffed by Ukrainian Ukrainians who hate Russia and and also have a lot of intelligence investment behind them. This is Sidney Powell, author of License to Lie on Comey and the CrowdStrike collusion. I think it goes back to 2012 Lou what we really need disclosed as the FISA court decision and know who the private contractors are that Mr. Comey gave unlimited access to the raw FISA intel too. I think one of them was Fusion GPS The other might have been CrowdStrike

34:40 They were accessing the NSA database probably for private profit. It's gonna be the scandal of the century, we need to know who those people are." Yeah! They were accessing the NSA database for private profit? Ukrainian mafia... It's too bad John McCain is dead because he is the link to all that and that guy was the link with everything if he's dead sometimes I wonder Quickie here, last one. This is not really quickie minute and a half Washington Post Greg Miller I guess he's a famous guy isn't he like one of their big writers? Well anywhere the name Miller is always possibly famous. Okay The Times in particular yeah they were that The Washington Post was one of the first companies to get a preview Woppo woppo woppo you get a preview look at the steel dossier

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Washington Post Reporters and the Steele Dossier Investigation

Greg Miller of the Washington Post describes the newspaper's efforts to verify the Steele Dossier, including sending reporters to Prague to investigate claims about Michael Cohen. The hosts criticize the modern state of journalism, arguing that reporters have become "experts in nothing" who merely rewrite Twitter trends. They debate whether podcasters should be considered the new standard for investigative journalism.

washington post· greg miller· christopher steele· steele dossier· michael cohen· prague· journalism

35:32 dossier and here's what he said about it. In the book is Michael Steele, the author of the infamous dossier and he secretly went to The Washington Post in September 2016 when he was trying to get word out about some of his findings they met with a couple of reporters there for two hours I don't think you were one of them but two of your colleagues And he elaborated on his dossier. Of course, some of the things that are in that dossier have proven true other elements haven't been substantiated... You'll notice they don't actually mention which parts have proven true but he goes into the ones that have not been proven. ...at least not yet What what do you think of the dossier overall? I think that overall like it's and its broadest

36:23 It's most accurate in its broadest, most sweeping assertions and conclusions. The narrower you get and the more particular you get the harder it is to figure out whether its on mark So, you know, the very first memo that he writes that is now part of this collection of memos we call a dossier talks about Russia is waging a campaign to interfere with American election with the goal of helping elect Donald Trump I mean, he's writing that way before any of us are writing it and way before the CIA has even reached that conclusion. So he is way ahead there. You know the thing people remember most vividly about the dossier is you know the idea that there is a tape somewhere or some compromise of Trump consorting with prostitutes at the Ritz Carlton in Moscow. It could be given what we know about Trump but certainly wouldn't

37:21 Outside the realm of the possible that this happened, but we've seen no evidence. And it's not for lack of trying I mean there was other material in the dossier We literally spent weeks and months trying to run down There is an assertion in there that Michael Cohen Trumps lawyer went to Prague To settle payments that were needed at the end of the campaign We sent reporters through every hotel in Prague, through all over the place trying to just try to figure out if he was ever there. I have a question about that is that really their job as journalists? To send reporters to every hotel to basically help the Mueller investigation is that really their job? Was it they helped the Mueller investigation? No but even as journalists

38:11 I mean, of course Washington Post so they always think that they are you know all the president's men that this is you know The Watergate scandal. So that's why they put...I mean They put a lot of resources into this for you know companies or an industry That says they don't have that they put a lot of resources into it and This made me think isn't the job of journalists in the connected world? Isn't it just invalid I don't know. Let me explain, let me explain so if you have events right news is an event and event takes place and then it really becomes an event based upon how big it is or how important people think it is for every event let's just take a crash airplane there's online there's hundreds of people who know exactly what's going on that are writing about it

39:03 And a journalist these days, all I see them do is troll Twitter to find these people and then rewrite their shitty story which is always wrong because of page constraints and just not hearing things right. Not understanding because they're not the experts. Journalists are experts in nothing. I think that used to be a good thing. Really you only need an editor! You need an editor and then you can put some opinion around something. I think it's an invalid occupation It is. Okay. We're doing it, I'm not a journalist! I wasn't schooled as a journalist- You are a journalist you don't know that No no i'm a podcaster

39:44 No, you're a journalist. Podcasters are journalism what you did today with that initial report is all journalism so just because you don't like to call yourself a journalist because you think it's an insulting name because you have higher view of yourself podcaster for example which is a higher... It's higher than journalism yes So you're actually bringing me down? no you bring yourself down by doing good journalism oh damnit foiled again You're doing what they should be doing. I mean, the whole show that we do is what other people should be doing Nobody's doing it They don't care to They got a hidden agenda Not so hidden So secret Oh man Anyway That'll take you through Monday I'm sure there will still be whining and crying about it Black stayed home because of Russians Please Yeah pretty much

CHAPTER 09 / 37 Discussion

Nigel Farage and the Leave Means Leave Campaign

Nigel Farage addresses a "Leave Means Leave" rally, warning supporters to prepare for the possibility of a second Brexit referendum. He cites historical precedents in Ireland and Denmark where voters were forced to vote twice. Meanwhile, Conservative politician Andrea Leadsom is caught in a "truth slip" regarding the legal default of a "no-deal" Brexit.

nigel farage· brexit· leave means leave· referendum· ireland· denmark· andrea leadsom

40:47 Brexit, do you have any updates? I got a few things. I do have an update they're finally all caving into the idea of having another...I want to play the Farage clip but i said i was going to play some clips from the Leave Means Leave conference yes i did watch that thanks for sending the link it was interesting yeah i thought it was very educational and here's Farage at the very end giving his he's not the last speaker but which i think galled him a little bit He brings up the thing that we've been bringing up since day one two years ago. About right rescinding it is they know that is impossible for this country to accept

41:27 They have managed in the past to engineer second referendums in Denmark. They've done it twice in Ireland and my message folks tonight, as much as I don't want a second referendum It would be wrong of us here on a leave means leave platform not to get ready, not to prepare for the worst case scenario. You know we must not fail in our preparation We really must not do that because I fear they'll do this to us and if i'm wrong? We've lost nothing but this organisation which I joined a few months ago

42:12 and which has held these events up and down the country, we've now got to move into a different gear. We've now got to start forming branches and active groups all over this country! We've gotta be out there!" Yeah... too little too late maybe? Farage? I have a quickie in Termezzo This is a conservative politician, Andrea Leadsom with the truth always wants to come out moment. We love these on The No Agenda Show you can't stop the truth from slipping out of your pie hole There is a deal on the table but Parliament doesn't support it raising the risk some argue of leaving without an agreement we're preparing for all eventualities were certainly not intending to have no-deal Brexit

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Irish Border Concerns and Post-Brexit Trade Logistics

Euronews reports on the potential return of a "hard border" between Ireland and Northern Ireland following Brexit. Residents express fear that physical infrastructure could revive the violence seen during the Troubles. The border is currently invisible, with people crossing multiple times a day for work and daily life, making the imposition of customs checks a logistical and social concern.

ireland· northern ireland· irish border· euronews· hard border· customs· ira

43:01 But Parliament does need to vote for a deal. Otherwise, the legal default position is we will head for no Brexit No deal in March 2019 I mean no deal not no break. No deal interesting No brexit whoops yes Yeah There's you got more on that got a couple more if I don't think I think that my frosting I think is the only thing Looking up and down this list that I have about the Brexit. I think that's it, you've got Brexit again is all yours. Okay well what is being touted as this is what its all about which I don't believe for a second is the Northern Ireland-Ireland situation with the border

43:48 And briefly, Ireland is staying in the European Union. So even though that's completely separated from the mainland that is seen as a border, an EU border with the UK as Northern Ireland is with the UK now this has not been an enforced border or any kind of barricades for 30 years it was Right mess back in the 70s and 80s, and I remember living in Europe man with IRA blowing shit up everywhere I Remember visiting London And they blew up a bunch of things around us and they wanted to go to take the kids through the big toy store Henley's whatever it's called and They blew it up. Well. They blew up to something front of it now So it's you know they've had a lot

44:30 And they've settled that and I think it's been very calm. There is no border, in fact i have a report from Euronews and the reporters were on the scene about the fears of the return of a border post-Brexit The Irish border more open than almost any in the world with more roads crossing it then between the US and Canada or Russia and Eastern Europe The border runs right down the middle of this river and here in the town, it's invisible. I'm crossing now from Ireland into the UK easy and that's the way people here want it to stay Today already I was across a border maybe five times You've been across five times today? Yeah And that's perfectly normal? Perfectly normal for anybody here So road closures... It'd be a disaster

45:20 After Brexit, this will be Britain's only land border with the European Union. There are real fears here that if Britain crashes out of the EU without a deal... ...a so-called hard border will be imposed. Customs officials, police, soldiers of two countries… Yes It was militarized and it was a pain in the neck? Absolutely! Reviving a guarded border wouldn't be easy. This church is in the UK, its graveyard is in Ireland The old border posts are abandoned, but hardline British Brexiteers would put them back so Britain could be free forever of EU ties. And that prospect stirs fears here of violence You put up physical infrastructure that people can protest at or God forbid somebody can attack the genie gets out of the bottle very quick The Genie Of Violence

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HBO Brexit Movie and Benedict Cumberbatch Propaganda

HBO is set to release a film titled "Brexit" starring Benedict Cumberbatch, which focuses on the data-driven tactics used by the "Leave" campaign. The hosts characterize the film as elite propaganda designed to convince the public that the referendum was manipulated by technology and figures like Steve Bannon. They mock the production as a "Hollywood elite" attempt to delegitimize the vote.

hbo· brexit movie· benedict cumberbatch· cambridge analytica· steve bannon· time warner· propaganda

46:20 Yes, possibly. Yes it might never be we hope it'll never happen It will never be on the scale but you would see sporadic attacks absolutely I don't think you have to worry about it because the liberal world order, the new world order, the global order, the globalists they do not want this to happen and they're going to do everything they can. And in fact nothing can take place no vote, no parliamentary vote, nothing can happen before January 19th because the propaganda needs to drop on January 19th and this propaganda is produced by HBO And it is called Brexit. Benedict Cumberbatch is the star, so they pulled out all the stops for this. It took a little piece from the trailer. We are about to ask the biggest question in a generation... In or out? And we need a leader!

47:16 How to change the course of history? We have to hack the political system. Hack it! I'm talking about altering the matrix of politics. Social media platforms are designed to find like-minded people. Our software will locate and target people that no campaign has ever targeted before, People who don't and have never voted 3 million extra votes that other side... ...have no idea exist This is an insurgence against the establishment. We're gonna build something that will restack the odds in our favor What are your expectations realistically? To create the biggest bit of glove since it's the fall of the Berlin Wall Ready to launch Yeah Let's take back control

48:01 So it seems like they're going to show us, very similar to the three million blacks in America that Data and Cambridge Analytica and Steve Bannon and the Russians and blah! That they manipulated everything so 3 million people were found who never voted who hated everything and wanted to Brexit. It's really disgusting. Quite astounding! Who got paid money to do this? Well, this is HBO so the Time Warner owns HBO Do they not I think they still own HBO. Oh, I think they still do yeah Yeah, it's big Hollywood. Hey come you get Hollywood elites They don't want any of this stuff going on they're not working for the public anymore. They are working for the elitists But also this is played by Sherlock Holmes This is the funny thing. Humber match?!

48:54 Cumberbatch is starring in this thing. Oh, Cumberbatch would you should be boycotted? Yes Wow yeah now the propaganda's real Funny, quick funny quote just an eight seconder from Parliament. I think someone was talking about a parliamentary ejection but it came out wrong and here's what the Prime Minister said. I'm tempted to say to the Honourable Lady if she looks carefully i think she'll see that I am not capable of a parliamentary ejaculation. Okay clip of the day finally. Of all the things you get clip of the day.

49:35 This is the level that our show is really at. But we know it works! We know that the lowbrow stuff works! It's what you have to do That's all people will remember from this expose She said ejaculation So yeah, I told you I've been having fun with the news There's interesting stuff going on Yeah, you're on a roll No, you got something surely. No I got nothing i get mostly small stuff but let's talk about a couple of things that are important besides Brexit let's get to something and now for something important

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Michael Flynn Sentencing Delay and Judge Emmett Sullivan

Judge Emmett Sullivan delayed the sentencing of Michael Flynn after a heated hearing where he accused the former National Security Adviser of selling out his country. While Flynn's legal team hoped the judge would criticize FBI conduct, Sullivan instead focused on Flynn's unregistered lobbying for Turkey. The sentencing is now postponed until at least March to allow for further cooperation with the Mueller probe.

michael flynn· emmett sullivan· robert mueller· fbi· turkey· sentencing· fisa

50:15 Yeah, something important to us. I think we got Brexit covered. Of course we've always had Brexit covered. We knew it was going off in the get-go now it's kind of... It's not fair as you pointed out a couple weeks ago. We don't play with the same deck of cards as everybody else. We're from the future so we know what's gonna happen So let's listen what Democracy Now has to say about Flynn Ah, yes. Flynn. In Washington D.C., a federal judge has delayed sentencing for Michael Flynn, President Trump's former national security adviser after expressing disgust that Flynn lied to federal investigators. Flynn's acknowledged he lied about his meeting with Russia's ambassador during the 2016 presidential campaign and admitted he worked as an under-registered foreign agent for Turkey's government

51:01 In an extraordinary two-hour hearing, U.S. District Judge Emmett Sullivan Tuesday blasted Flynn for his conduct, pointing to an American flag inside the courtroom as he said arguably you sold your country out. Judge Sullivan offered to hold off on sentencing Flynn if he agreed to continue to aid federal prosecutors with special counsel Robert Mueller's probe and other criminal investigations. Flynn agreed to the deal, delaying any sentencing until at least March. The court seized Flynn's passport and ordered him to remain within 50 miles of Washington D.C.. At the White House, Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders deflected questions about Flynn's court appearance saying only that the White House is concerned that Flynn lied to the FBI

51:43 I have some thoughts on this. What? I have some thoughts on this yeah well the couple of, they gave me a few initial thoughts first of all when this guy this judge who's apparently was like shopped because he hates Trump Well, we don't know that. Yeah he's there he did some other rulings against Trump stuff. Let me back up according to the right wingers He was shopped by Flynn's people and the Flynn lawyers who thought he might be amenable because he was a Reagan appointee Gotcha. He may have been a Bush, but I think it was Reagan he's old and so they found this guy and then immediately he goes into the timeline of the FBI And how they indicted Flynn showing that you know he lied that they didn't file a report for weeks It was really very poorly done FBI work But Flynn you know rolled over because it would supposedly threatened his family

52:41 You know, we're going to prosecute your kid if you don't roll over. Okay." So he did that and so it looked like the judge according to the right wingers was gonna kick this whole thing out and maybe indict Flynn or indict Mueller. He's gonna end up in jail...Mueller is gonna end up in jail somehow. Yeah sure! And then all of a sudden this turns around the other way where the guy's not even concentrating on lying to the FBI, but other stuff that he thinks the FBI should have indicted him for. And now Flynn is in a heap of trouble. So the show has involved with this I think you'll recall just around the time Trump was elected through our military intelligence channels we got a request about Mark Halls movie

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Fethullah Gulen Extradition and Turkey-US Relations

The Turkish Foreign Minister states that President Trump is working on the extradition of cleric Fethullah Gulen, who resides in Pennsylvania. This development coincides with the U.S. decision to pull troops out of Syria and a proposed sale of Patriot missiles to Turkey. The hosts discuss the documentary "Killing Ed" and the influence of the Gulen movement's charter schools in the United States.

fethullah gulen· turkey· recep tayyip erdogan· syria· ypg· pkk· patriot missiles· killing ed

53:31 which is killing Ed about the Gulen movement and financing of the Harmony Schools and all of the... what do you call them? Charter schools and all this infiltration. And of course it was Fethullah Gulen is the CIA protected Turkish cleric who's been hiding out in the Poconos, and Flynn wanted to see this movie and so I connected everybody with... yeah I connected everybody and so they saw this movie And we both saw it too. Yeah, that's a great movie! It's something...it's not just about Flynn or Turkey or Gulen but yeah you have to see this movie called Killing Ed and but the evening before this Flynn sentencing two associates of Flynn were indicted on conspiracy charges related to Fethullah Gulen

54:25 And this may also have to do with the failed coup, and it's possible that Flynn was also involved in that. Here is a A quick little back and forth at the Doha forum. This is the Turkey foreign minister and Listen closely to what he I may have to stop it and tell you what he says another question that's been Revolving around these conversations has been the fate of Fethullah Gulen, and what will happen to him next? Has there been progress made by your government in discussions to have him extradited back to Turkey well everybody was focusing on this pastor Branson a

55:02 Who is also a CIA agent. I'm also very straightforward person like Erdogan." Yeah, I like what we were talking about. He said that the pastor, Pastor Brown everyone was focused on he's a CIA agent let's just be honest about it. Yeah that's the guy they were holding and then we did a bunch of deals to get him released. So Trump was all in for getting him released. Oh yeah! Who is also a CIA agent? I am also very straight forward person like Erdogan But it was a minor issue in our relations. We have more serious problems we had, one of them is the US supports to YPG PKK in Syria which are posing threat to our national security and the second serious problem is perpetrators of attempted coup

55:50 the leader of this terrorist organization, are still in the United States. But recently I have seen the credible investigation of the FBI in several states and they have actually seen or noticed the darkness of this organization, and how they have been violating the US laws including tax fraud, visa fraud, and also some other illegal activities. And how professional they are? This is what FBI telling us so our expectation is also very clear we have bilateral agreements and international law is there

56:28 This guy and the others belonging to this organization, 84 names that we have requested United States to exercise they should be exercised in Turkey. Do you believe your closer to having that happen? President Trump told Erdogan that they have been working on that So here's here's the data points we have So Flynn is just the tip of the iceberg. These associates of him or ex-associates who were indicted, the evening before his sentencing which I believe delayed his sentencing comes at the same time Trump announces we're pulling out of Syria Of course the YPG as you just heard this is a big problem for Turkey they hate the Kurds They want to go down there and they want to get rid of them

57:12 They want to run Syria or whoever it is now I don't even know who's who and whose friends with who add To that would that we just requested to sell a Patriot missile system to Turkey. I Believe that Trump has done some kind of deal or he's in the middle. I know if it's his deal He's in the middle of some kind of deal somebody's deal and turkey is really The way they wanted because they want to be the center of the universe the way they were when it was Constantinople and the Ottoman Empire And this is all related. Khashoggi is related, Flynn and the Gulen extradition is related... There's some deal and really I think that we're just pulling- I think Trump is pulling us out of everything let him have it! Well let's listen to that clip then This is All American Troops Out Of Syria Part 1

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US Troop Withdrawal from Syria and Afghanistan

President Trump announced the immediate withdrawal of 2,000 U.S. troops from Syria, claiming ISIS has been defeated. The decision stunned Senate Republicans like Lindsey Graham and military leaders who argue the mission is incomplete. The hosts speculate that U.S. energy independence via shale oil has reduced the strategic necessity of Middle Eastern involvement, potentially leading to a similar withdrawal from Afghanistan.

syria· isis· lindsey graham· joseph dunford· afghanistan· turkey· poppies· shale oil

58:02 All American troops in Syria are leaving. The president tweeted, we have defeated ISIS in Syria my only reason for being there during the Trump presidency. The first Americans arrived in October of 2015 they have since helped push ISIS into a few isolated areas about 2,000 American troops are there now but today's announcement still stunned some top Republicans who believe more work needs to be done David Martin begins our coverage The president claimed ISIS in Syria is defeated. So our boys, our young women, our men they're all coming back and they're coming back now we won! And it is true the territory ISIS once held, the so-called caliphate has been reduced to just a few pockets

58:49 But the fighting remains fierce. Last week, the U.S and its allies launched more than 200 air and artillery strikes many of them called in by American special operations forces working with local fighters on the ground The president's decision was denounced by members of his own party. I doubt there is anybody in the Republican caucus and the Senate that just isn't stunned by this precipitous decision, like you woke up in the morning and made it. Republican Senator Lindsey Graham called for hearings to determine whether the pullout is based on military advice or in spite of it

59:25 The abrupt withdrawal runs counter to U.S strategy as explained little more than a week ago by a senior State Department official I think it's fair to say America will remain on the ground after the physical defeat of the caliphate until we have the pieces in place that ensure that defeat is enduring Joint Chiefs Chairman General Joseph Dunford recently explained what that would take We estimate for example about 35-40,000 local forces have to be trained and equipped in order provide stability We're probably somewhere along the line of 20 percent through the training of those forces. For Dunford, that meant U.S. troops wouldn't be leaving any time soon but the president's mind appears to have been made up since March. We are going to be coming out of there real soon and get back to our country where we belong

1:00:12 So after four years and the loss of four American servicemen, senior military leaders are scrambling to get all U.S. troops out of Syria in 30 days or as soon after as possible They're also wondering what comes next since President Trump has said his instincts tell him to pull out of Afghanistan as well Jeff? David Martin at the Pentagon for us David thank you So that's the kind of the basic, and don't forget CBS is the mouthpiece of the CIA for all practical purposes. Yep! So we're getting good information so let's listen to what Holly Williams

1:00:49 the foreign correspondent who's floating around. She is always in Istanbul, reporting from every place else but here she is and this has got a little kicker on it that was kind of interesting. Okay Holly Williams has reported extensively on Syria having visited the country 10 times now. Holly joins us from Istanbul tonight. Holly first of all what does this mean for the fight against ISIS? Well Jeff, a local official from the region in Syria where the US has its bases warned us tonight that the American withdrawal could give ISIS an opportunity to regroup and come back. Now America's partners on the ground are the Syrian Democratic Forces or SDF and they now control around 1 quarter of Syria And we have witnessed the SDF beat ISIS back to a few holdouts in the desert and bring relative stability To the areas that they control

1:01:40 difficult once those American troops have gone home. And so then what about other potential consequences for the region? Well, the American withdrawal could also open the door to Turkey which has threatened to launch a military operation in SDF territory more fighting could bring more instability to their region Also, the American withdrawal could force the SDF to embrace the Syrian regime as well its backers Iran and Russia simply to ensure their own survival Finally, the American withdrawal could send a message to other groups both here in the Middle East and elsewhere that the US cannot be counted on to stand by its partners. Jeff? Holly so great to get your perspective tonight thank you Okay hold on a second She has her conclusion at the end is that this is some sort of indication That United States will not stand by it's partners

1:02:35 So I'm asking in this situation, Syria who are its partners? Well the odds that you're a tag FTFFDS guys have read they're not like a nation state. They're bunch of guys that we probably created to lose his partner's well how is it sending a bad message about us not standing by our partner interestingly we only have one partner in the region and that is NATO member Turkey Yeah, that's our actual partner. Yeah well Turkey is not in NATO yet you know yes they are you're right. Yes they're not and they're not in the European Union member that we have to yeah so we were standing by our partners if we cut it loose and let them take over It's just so interesting that we have this incredible... So the reason why I know there's something going on is when you get Lindsey Graham

1:03:24 This still John McCain holdover and others saying this is crazy We got to stay in we've got to stay in Syria, which you know the Congress did this is still under the 2001 state of emergency laws if the president can do that. It's bullshit We shouldn't be there and we shouldn't be an Afghanistan one of our producers sent a recommendation for an author I forget the name of him his book put it in show notes need to be in Afghanistan but the Well, he says that this author's concept... It's for running poppies. His concept is that perhaps because shale oil production has reached its break-even point—that the U.S really does not need oil from anywhere and we're going to become the biggest oil producer—the idea is Trump is possibly letting it all go! Let everyone argue it out and fight each other and kill each other in the Middle East and will be completely isolated from that.

1:04:21 Could be. It's a simple enough strategy that he would come up with it, if you know what I mean? That is not a bad strategy. No except for the poppies! That's an issue. The poppies are the poppies. They released those four superstar creeps from Gitmo who we initially assumed they were released for a reason and there they guys are supposed to take over the poppy business but...I mean that was our thesis Have they done it? I don't know. I never heard anything about it But do we need to still be there guarding the poppy fields or can they just run this thing without us well seeing as Trump is probably not he's in a lot of business mouth think he's in the in the narcotics business I Don't think you've been read in on what we're up to over that He doesn't have a kickback off of that deal So, you know maybe the people who are protesting all these things have some some other Agendas that were unaware going on

1:05:16 Easy money. So keep your eye on Turkey, we've always said it I'm sure Mark Hall... I have a call schedule with him We're gonna talk soon because he's he knows everything about this stuff He so deep in this Gulen stuff But we'll see if we can figure out what's happening with the series Eventually Gulen is gonna die of old age Yeah but it... It still would be very fun to have the extradition take place and see what-see the plan unfold And Without unfolding, I'm not gonna do that. God like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in digital caliphate John C Well in the morning to you mr Adam Curry know all the ships had seen boots on the ground feedin' The air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there In the morning too are illustrious trolls in the troll room they're there on their troll poles and

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Executive Producer Donations and YouTube Premium Discussion

Sir Francis of SRQ contributes $1,000 to the show, sparking a discussion on the various ways listeners consume the podcast. The producer mentions using YouTube Premium to listen while running other apps, leading the hosts to wonder if YouTube is effectively charging users for access to their free content. They reiterate that the show is available through many free outlets.

sir francis of srq· youtube premium· donations· podcast apps· value-for-value

1:09:24 Please accept my biannual donation for 2018, the amount of $1,000 which should be allocated as follows. Always funny when you start that way. Yeah, a 76 55 will bring me to Earl status and 123 dot 45 is your Christmas bonus? It has been a great year of deconstruction And as always I appreciate the effort and dedication that you two put into the show each week more Importantly I cannot thank you enough for the many laughs You have provided me on a daily commute While also providing me with invaluable information on so many topics. I wish you both a wonderful Christmas and very happy new year Please play the best of Sharpton for us and let's be sure to have some cookies in vodka at the roundtable for Santa today Yes, I've already added them to the

1:10:14 To the feast. One final request, I would love to hear a segment at some point on the various ways that one can listen to this show? I ask because i tried a few apps in the beginning and then settle on YouTube premium which allows me to listen while running other apps it all... While running other apps Running other apps sorry, running other apps and it also saves my location to this industry each time is of new feature of YouTube The YT channel is called April. Not sure who that is, but I wanted to say thanks to that person or bot for posting the shows now adios mofos Sir Francis of SRQ Earl of Southwest Florida Well here's a question. Is he on the upgrade list? So is yeah, I believe so Why why are we on YouTube premium are they charging you to listen to us as that the idea I presume premium means that

1:11:11 I have no idea what YouTube premium. I think you two premium is the TV stuff isn't it the streaming yes? But that he says it right there. He's list thanks to YouTube premium. He settled on YouTube premium, right YouTube He listens he settle in YouTube premium which allows me to listen while running other apps Yeah this he listens to the show on YouTube premium Okay an April post I guess what oh April's the one posting right, but I don't admit it. Okay YouTube is charging money to listen to us. I guess I don't know what's going on I guess hmm yeah well You know what listened to it any way you want we have the lo-fi no agenda which I think We have that's what he wants to know He wants to know all the outlets and all the different ways you can listen to God I don't know some of them are always new a paper a giblet and charge for it oh

1:12:02 We're gonna charge you to tell you how Already beating the drums of war today the Pentagon refuted that claim And he said the American people do not want him to quote Dwindling either they did not want him dwindling his thumb. You can get a gig as a Compression heard this one intravenous fluids and pills coated all with galette gelatin we don't

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Al Sharpton's Pronunciation Errors and "Jitty"

The hosts play clips of Al Sharpton mispronouncing words, specifically his use of "jitty" instead of "giddy." They compare this to the debate over the pronunciation of "GIF," noting that Sharpton's unique linguistic inventions have become a recurring theme on the show.

al sharpton· pronunciation· giddy· jitty· gif· linguistics

1:12:44 Don't leave our women or men in uniform behind. It's a monument to the hubris of Dick Cheney, Representative Raul Arra Labrador. Years of abuse I personally apologize to Mr. Pevis just asked soon-to-be former congressman Democrats are outright jitty. CIH counter and counter tourism, counter terrorism center. Veteran Affairs Secretary Shin Shinsuke. Why do I always mess up his name? Shinseki. I love my critics have fun with that. You've got karma can't resist playing it man. It's just too good does he say

1:13:32 Crown hog day. I think so yeah So I was thinking about that was doing to stop the flow here But I've been meaning to discuss this why he says Jitty Well, he means to say giddy. He's means to say giddy but he probably thinks it's pronounced like jiff when he reads it off the prompter! Interestingly I've been around people and I'll say oh they got all giddy with it and people are like uh you know its pronounced giddy? Yes only Sharpton could make that mistake yeah you can't go doing saying stuff like that but I'd say now now it sticks in getting all giddy

1:14:15 They're getting jitty. Getting jitty, and if they say, oh man that's not the way to pronounce it so you probably say gif too huh? It's pronounced JIF according to the guy who invented this word. Yes! It is pronounced jitty according to the guy who invented the word Al Sharpton. The word jiff. Jitty is invented by Al Sharpton as I pronounced it. Well I'm jitty over Gene Mikoff parts unknown $500 This should be tagged to my good friend Jeffrey Marcy, which clears a small debt to him. So we'll be crediting Jeffrey.

CHAPTER 18 / 37 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony and Listener Correspondence

Gene Mikoff donates $500 to facilitate the knighthood of Geoffrey B. Marcy. Other listeners send in donations for "F-cancer" karma and "de-douching" jingles. A teacher from Texas, Sean Kunath, writes in about the value of teaching Latin and the declining state of the American educational system, which he describes as becoming too utilitarian.

geoffrey b. marcy· knighthood· latin· education· port angeles· f-cancer· karma

1:14:54 I'm also told it completes his long quest for no agenda knighthood, so he should be on the knighting list. Talk about a friend! Yeah no kidding well Jeffrey now lives in the Bay Area and thanks again for the E1 trader karma from the prior donation which allowed him to have a global cooling trend in Canada left left the gold global cooling trend in Canada behind He's not to be confused with the only other Jeffrey Marcy The shamed professor of astronomy at Berkeley Once, once knighted he wants to be referred to as Sir Geoffrey B. Marcy Yes And hopefully this elevated status will help him avoid a precipitous fall from grace Thanks for being one of the only two podcasts I religiously listen to for long-term sanity Oh goodness now i want to know what the other one is Yeah his first thing came into my mind too Well thank you very much Gene and congratulations Geoffrey Give us big bosom karma while we're here

1:15:54 You've got karma. Jeffrey Johnson is $338 from Port Angeles, Port Angleys Washington ITM gents excellent shows happy festivus to all producers and nights. It'd be Festivus miracle of JC's D held a port Angeles meetup sometime soon I could do that we did Seattle it's pretty far away with Port Angeles we gotta maybe 10 people up there Just an F-cancer from my mother who has five weeks of radiation coming up, 73s.

1:16:39 $333.33 from Anonymous would appreciate a thorough de-douching for Carl from Ormond Beach Floor. You've been de-douched! Oh, I'm sorry... Went a little fast. And his smoking hot wife. Let me give her one too. You've been de-douched! She also needs some tennis winning karma and the Trump aliens jingle to set up the theme from The X-Files Keep up the superlative work. Whenever the president finds any aliens, okay? Any aliens or of any class of aliens... Forgot this one! Whenever the president finds aliens... Whenever the president finds aliens... Any aliens... Or of any class of aliens

1:17:37 You've got karma That new search program that have you seen this called everything no You want an email producer recommended it? It's you can get it from void tools calm. Holy crap This search thing is great to really helping me find jingles It's open source, its open source outstanding product source yes open sources Joseph Finley's in Louisville, Ohio and he donated $333 flat out.

1:18:12 ITM, episode 1095 kept my sanity driving six hours to Bad Axe Michigan. That's in the thumb! Anyhow I found myself laughing out loud hearing John's butcher names only to have potfather correct John C Dvorak. Donations are down so we need the No Agenda Nation to do their part and chip-chip-chip in Merry Christmas, John and Adam. I want to smack my brother David aka dude named Ben currently in Afghanistan in the mouth all he does is bend work and exercise he better be listening to the best podcast in the universe jingle request Sharpton respect Obama all gonna die and karma at me a Yes PICT you might

1:19:08 You've got karma. Yay! Dropping down to associate executive producer with Sean Kunath, $217. I was hit in the mouth two years ago by my cousin and have been dragging my feet about donating also held off signing up for the newsletter until a week ago. The epic newsletter fail and my uncle's recent donations made the final push I needed to stop freeloading. The amount 217 refers to my birthday and I like 217 and they're both prime numbers I'm living a little north of Dallas in Louisville, Texas. I teach middle school Latin and science at a classical school in the area that can be surprisingly difficult due to this founding gaps and knowledge that these students have and the various behavioral issues that crop up

1:20:04 I've been teaching this age for the past four years now and from what i can tell our educational system is in dire need of reform. It seems to me that we've lost sight of education as a way of bettering a person and expanding their mind, and now see it simply as a means to an end These middle school students and even so many young people of my generation, I'm 25 by the way are so self-absorbed because they have become accustomed to viewing people and things from a strictly utilitarian standpoint. The questions of why are we learning this or when are we ever going to use this in life

1:20:40 questions that the kids ask, fail to take into account the broader picture of human understanding and development. Learning Latin is good in itself as... By the way I agree with this. I think people should take Latin Learning Latin is good in itself as Latin is a beautiful language with the rich history. I was a Latin major in college, but practically speaking the linguistic and analytical capacity its study instills in the minds is priceless." I could go on! But I feel like this note is long enough and those as is that I'm ready hoping to be able to come to Austin for The Texas Meetup. Good cold read John

1:21:17 Thank you. Shout out to the rest of the Kunath clan that listen and donate, including Sir Colin the Friendly Fat Man George, Uncle George Arthur, Colleen, Stephan et cetera or Stephen I need a de-douching for my jingles Could you please play the Australian Prawn song? And a drone again at the end of the show i'd be most appreciative You've been de-douched Put another prawn on the barbie There's no one in Australia calls them shrimp. No one here drinks that Foster's lager, everybody knows it tastes like shit. The drone again... You've got karma. Can I just say something? Everyone has become a

CHAPTER 19 / 37 Discussion

Associate Executive Producers and National Anthem

The hosts thank several Associate Executive Producers for their contributions. Sir Timothy requests a parody song and a Michelle Obama clip, while Sir Dwight the Knight requests the "No Agenda National Anthem." The hosts play the "Gitmo Nation" anthem in full, noting the various reasons producers continue to support the show's mockery of authority.

timothy of the no fix title· dwight the knight· michelle obama· national anthem· gitmo nation· donations

1:22:15 Thing where people are saying I want this song at the end of the show. I can't do that every time and it's also You know, it's kind of outside of the scope because I have stuff lined up and it just becomes too long It's one of the things when Adam does his preparation He prepares the end of the show because he gets all these clips in he doesn't wanna have to deal with it during the show Thank you I can't. That's it in a nutshell, yeah sometimes he does oh yeah well you know drone again usually if it's something extremely long and we don't have a lot of good stuff yes of course we have good stuff today that's why Taylor Martin $210.96 uh in Deutschland

1:22:55 in Deutschland. I'm in Deutschland for Christmas so uh i keep a mess on the screen but fröhliche weihnachten! Weihnachten, I've donated before but I have never received an official dedouching oh well we can do that you've been de-douched I have listened since show 970 and I wanted to give this amount of the show value for value uh I want to give this amount to the show, the value the show has given me over the past year and a half for their value. The show has been greatly recently and you guys have deconstructed that M5M BS well. The world is a crazy place and it drove me insane but after I found... This is the common theme that I hope people appreciate what he's just about to say

1:23:48 The world is a crazy place and it drove me insane, but after I found you guys my mental health is 10 thousand times better. All we're doing is explaining stories in a little more detail than the media wants to explain them because they want to manipulate you and make you buy their products advertised on their show It's good to know that not everyone in the world is crazy like the mainstream media is. I would like a respect jingle, but this is a classic example of there's no real reason for this fractal or not fractal. Besides the fact that it's dynamite jingle? That's what it is. Dynamite jingle but its just interesting as always everything on the same random number theory and play. Uh...I got ants The intro to I Got Ants and Some Christmas Goat

1:24:35 Goat karma for all. Yes, we're doing the intro John that's why. Hit it now! I got ants. I got ants. R-E-S-P-I-C-T You've Got Karma On point today Sir Timothy of The No Fix Title will be another associate executive producer from Plymouth Michigan probably a local one i think Uh, for Adam to read? Adam, read. Oh then I can't do the jingles. Yuletide greetings to Adam John and all No Agenda producers! No greetings whatsoever through those who have never donated. I am donating at Christmas to support the glittering multifaceted gem that is no agenda Here's why i've gotten so much value recently 1. Converge of events... coverage of events and media outside the US. I like news from other countries besides my own 2

1:25:40 Legislative analysis both inside and outside the US. And three, blistering mockery of authoritarians both on the right and the left! Please continue travels abroad in 2019 I'd like this John to spend some time in Russia We've been trying to get that motherfucker to Russia for a long time. And Adam in the UK! Merry Christmas, please play Kevin Anders parody of Night Moves with his fake news song plus Michelle Obama scaring little kids in a disturbing psycho monster voice Yes, you remember the Michelle one? Yeah. Yeah I've got that one and what was the other one he wanted? I don't know this one. Yeah, yeah fake news let me see it's been a while since we've used that one. That's Sir Timothy of The No Fix title in Plymouth. Oh here we go! Here we go! Here we go-go-go yes here's a little one you come on up. You cursed rat look what you done!

1:26:40 Let me see, when did we... When was that jingle created? Let's see. That is from 2016. Dwight Schick in Burlington Ontario $201.20 It has taken me a few years of listening to the best podcast in the universe and I have finally reached the rank of knighthood. I'd like to thank my brother, I think he's on the list, I would like to thank my brother Sir Hank Scarpio for hitting me in the mouth all those years ago

1:27:31 After Sunday's episode and hearing the children reading their scripts about how they're terrified about climate change, I could not stop laughing and needed to donate. I think our point was that it is horrible in child abuse. Glad you got a kick out of it. Apparently some people took this raw comment! There you go who knew? Now, for my official title I couldn't think of anything fancy just Dwight the Knight. I like that actually. Sir Dwight the Knight is fantastic! And I would like to request at the round table tea Earl Grey hot. Ah you know what their reference is? Is that a James Bond reference? No Picard. Oh

1:28:14 I'm not listening. I'm gonna start. T, Earl Grey Hot. Shouldn't you say computer? T, Earl Grey Hot! I think it was the replicator not the computer that he talked to I can almost smell and taste, I should know these things. No, I should know them everyone should! I can almost smell and taste the feast. I'll be looking forward to my knighting ceremony later on in the program if i could get the no agenda national anthem at the end of this show it would be great we could maybe do that one of the... Why don't we why don't we do it now? We'd never we rarely ever... The whole national anthem? It's 30 seconds

1:28:51 Oh, Sharpton was a minute. No complaints there. Ladies and gentlemen please rise for your Gitmo Nation national anthem! And you may sing along! In the morning Gitmo nation We are all charged up to be Human resources and servants In all lands and all ships at sea From the east to west, down under too The lowlands and beyond We are happy and distracted slaves Hear our Yidmo nation song

1:29:40 I cannot tell you how disappointed. I am that you took a knee during that John it did not take it Ando de las Royas Reyes or is in Sierra Vista Arizona 200 Merry Christmas and Happy New Year's keep up the good work, man Thank you very much Okay, Sir Keith of the Fayette... Fayette... Fayette-Nam. Fayette-Nam! FAYETTE-NAM! Ah that's right I remember that in Fayetteville, Arkansas. Consider this a Merry Christmas donation simply put keep up the good work and best wishes for the new year thank you very much for your courage Sir Keith of Fayette-Nam And last but not least is our fabulous Dame Patricia of Biscayne Bay and I have to run again or no okay oh so squirrel mail is not appropriate at this point? Or it is do you print it hmm I don't know man

CHAPTER 20 / 37 Discussion

Squirrel Mail Creator and Mark Perkel Memorial

One of the hosts recounts meeting the creator of Squirrel Mail at a memorial for Mark Perkel. They discuss the irony that the entire back office of the No Agenda show still runs on the aging open-source email platform. The creator, Paul, reportedly appreciated that the software is still being used for the show's operations.

squirrel mail· mark perkel· open source· email· austin

1:30:47 Okay, well it's warranted Guess what? What so I went to mark perkels kind of a Celebration of his life that death thing you know. It's yes. It's your note. I never get spam guy who passed away Yes hold on hold on one second You can't he gotta have the end of the jingle hit it Yeah, okay, so he passed away which guess who I got to meet oh

1:31:23 Is this really a guessing game I can? inventor of squirrel mail no Yep, who is he who is this mysterious masked man. He calls himself Paul and Did you tell him of your affectation your affection for the squirrel nails did he like it oh Like what? He loves it. They like that you are using it, that the show actually...that the entire back office of The No Agenda Show runs on squirrel mail! I mean this is hopefully you mentioned that to him in passing. I did, but he's kind of a guy.. First of all you have to imagine a really tall bald guy who invented squirrel mail and then project on him what you think his sense of humor would be like if I gave this discussion to him. Right yeah I gotcha I got ya.

CHAPTER 21 / 37 Discussion

Peerage Committee Rulings and Territorial Disputes

The Peerage Committee addresses a territorial dispute in Ohio between Sir Corwin Underwood and Sir Ladyfingers. A ruling is made to "gerrymander" the district to allow for specific county protectorates. Additionally, Dame Patricia Worthington is elevated to the rank of Viscountess of Biscayne Bay.

peerage· viscountess· biscayne bay· ohio· gerrymandering· sir corwin underwood· sir ladyfingers

1:32:12 Dame Patricia Worthington. She sent a beautiful card, as she often does. I wish we'd get more cards from some of our people and she always sends the card... We got two cards that's all we got so far. I mean in this last mailing wishing you both a Merry Christmas and a happy prosperous New Year! I decided to send my accounting to give myself a Christmas present of a new title. Get your pen out because they did not send this to Eric Oh hold on second so this is Dame Patricia Worthington Go. If I thought there was a protectorate that would ensure that South Florida carry out an election without being a laughingstock, I would ask for it as it is. I think I'll just stick with Biscayne Bay. Thank you for being important part of my day life and keeping me on even keel karma from my kids please. And then she sends... Hold on, I just need to understand something so what is the time? What what peerage level is she at now

1:33:07 She said, okay I have to go to the peerage thing and i'll tell you... Which by the way is officially called The Peerage Thing. That's a peerage page actually. The peerage page. You need to keep it open because I have something for the peerage committee. I take it very seriously! And just love that it's also being run on Squirrel Mail. I believe its peerage dot HTM And she will be a Viscountess. Viscountess of Biscayne Bay? Biscayne Bay, yeah. She was Baroness and now she could have expanded her purview but she decided to just keep it I'm going to give her Karma in a moment we do have actually I need to give her karma first thank you Dame Patricia for her kids

1:34:05 There's a, uh... I got a note for the Peerage Committee from Sir Corwin Underwood. Yes, I saw this note you may read it? Dear John, Chairman of the Peerage Committee, I recently achieved the status of Baron The protectorate i tried to claim was all Southwest Ohio and it was disputed by another fellow Baron from Ohio Sir Ladyfingers of Miami Valley. I had feeling my territorial claim was a little too ambitious therefore will respect the rights of Sir Ladyfingers and humbly request a gerrymandering of the district to allow me to claim the protectorate of the southwest tri-county area of Ohio, to include Butler Hamilton and Warren counties. The Miami Valley is vast area that runs along very long river that passes through both Butler and Hamilton counties and flows into the Ohio River

1:34:53 However, residents further south on the Great Miami River don't consider themselves part of the Miami Valley. I have a feeling Sir Ladyfingers is a little bit further north where residents do refer to the area as the Miami Valley even so Sir Ladyfinger's can have the Miami Valley through those respective counties and my subjects and I will steer far away from the river area And we'll remain in the outlining county areas. I seek ruling from the peerage committee in this regard respectfully sir Corwin Underwood This has been looked over And it's granted with the proviso that Sir Ladyfingers has 30 days to... To dispute it? ...to refute. Yeah, to dispute this finding after 30 days is final. Order! Order in the court! Wow great okay well that's taken care of good good good everything although of course we do encourage barons and their subjects

1:35:57 Cooperate. Meet up! Yeah, cooperate with each other you know? You're supposed to all kind of be in the same boat so we'll see how that goes. That concludes our list of executive and associate executive producers for show 1096 want to thank each and every one of them for helping us produce this show And uh...and for the nice cards Yes and Merry Christmas everybody Happy Hanukkah Are we done with Hanukkah? Is it done? I think were done I can't say that. And like to thank everybody for this support of the program, part of our value-for-value system you determine what the show is worth to you how much value you've received in your life and in return You receive a credit in this case in the upper echelons These are actual credits that can be used anywhere credits are recognized in the entertainment business or elsewhere

1:36:45 And we will also be thanking more people in our second segment, $50 and above. And again thank you for your courage and remember another show coming up on Sunday. Did you hear about the person of the year according to The Financial Times?

CHAPTER 22 / 37 Discussion

Financial Times Person of the Year and Tucker Carlson Ad Boycott

The Financial Times named George Soros its "Person of the Year," which the hosts interpret as a "globalist wink." Meanwhile, Tucker Carlson faces an advertiser boycott after comments regarding immigration making the country "poorer and dirtier." The hosts argue the comments were taken out of context and represent a coordinated effort by the left to remove a "nuisance" from the airwaves.

george soros· financial times· tucker carlson· fox news· ad boycott· immigration· land rover

1:37:25 Another person of the year? Not the same computer or the protesters, or who are the dead journalists person of the year. No that's Time Magazine Yeah okay there is another one I thought there was only one person of the years time magazine Well Time Magazine used to count now everyone is getting into the game Financial Times has selected George Soros as its Person Of The Year Congratulations George You know, the Financial Times is obviously a globalist publication so I see the humor in what they're doing. I think it's a little wink you know? Hey boys try this one out for size! Okay I've been... Yeah go ahead. So do want to get this other way was in the newsletter discussed a little bit Tucker Carlson

1:38:16 was attacked, you know they're trying to get him off the air because he's a nuisance. Oh well no no! He's not...he's a white nationalist racist Nazi quadroon To be exact. Well, let's listen to what Democracy Now has to say about him In media news more than a dozen companies have pulled advertisements from the program Tucker Carlson tonight after the Fox News host said immigrants make the US poorer dirtier and more divided Carlson made that comment on his primetime show last Thursday We have a moral obligation to admit the world is poor they tell us even if it makes our own country poorer and dirtier and more divided

1:38:56 Following an uproar over the comment, companies including Land Rover IHOP Pacific Life Insurance Ancestry.com and Just for Men have pulled ads from Carlson's show Fox News has accused left-wing groups of censoring Carlson's program and noted the advertisers have only shifted their sponsorship to other Fox News programs Censuring? Did he really accuse them of censoring is that what he accused them of? I don't know who's judging this nonsense I happen to point is, is that this is one of the things that our listeners should pay attention to. I wrote about in the newsletter and of course have the entire clip linked so you can go listen to it's out of context

1:39:35 Pretty much. Because he was talking to some dude in Tijuana and they were specifically talking about the trash that was left behind from the caravan or that's been created by the caravan, and that's where the dirty... But I saw Dershowitz on his show yesterday and Dershowitz launched it-I should have clipped it really- Dershowitz launches like my parents were called dirty as in dirty Jews but holy crap! That thing took a life of its own Yeah, I mean not. I don't care what you think of Tucker Carlson but that's out of context solely out of contact whole thing was out of cut they were just looking to get him because he's a nuisance To the left Nazi quadroon. I Don't know He's an innocent very annoying But this is classic example a classic example of advertisers knuckling under and by the way The people that started doing this before anybody else was the right wingers the right wingers that we owe these these

CHAPTER 23 / 37 Discussion

Patreon Purge and Jordan Peterson's Payment System

Jordan Peterson and Dave Rubin are leading a departure from Patreon following the de-platforming of several creators. Peterson announced plans to build a new payment system, which the hosts criticize as a violation of "core competencies." They argue that building a financial infrastructure is a massive undertaking that will distract Peterson from his primary work as a speaker and author.

patreon· jordan peterson· dave rubin· bitcoin· payment systems· social justice warriors· de-platforming

1:40:30 Mostly a bunch of religious people that form some groups and they oh totally on TV. Yes, you're right ruin the kids That's right go for years we grew up with that it was the ultimate it wasn't political correctness It was just correctness now this does play into the purge and I want to just discuss this briefly as There was a lot of people email me this YouTube video you saw it? I'm sure Dave Rubin and Jordan Peterson. I linked it in the newsletter! Okay, good... who are leading the charge on the Patreon purge and in this case they are trying to get everyone to leave Patreon a lot of people are leaving it well let me just finish and then yeah there are there's some big names who have left patreon

1:41:25 And here's what I found interesting is that Jordan Peterson apparently is working on his own initiative for a payment system for creators and I would like to say, Jordan Peterson that is the stupidest idea you've had. Stay far away from it do not do not do this! It will distract you from what you're doing. It will become a huge headache. It will be a massive failure, it'll be an embarrassment. An embarrassment thank you! It is not something you want to do ultimately here's my recommendation it's not frictionless

1:42:02 But you can get from I think coinbase. You can get a bitcoin visa card and so you you hand out your Bitcoin wallet address Yes, people have to find out how they get bitcoin to pay you with it And then they send you the Bitcoin it shows up on your debit card and then you can spend it right away That's no good It's the only Bitcoin is the only option left after people get de-platformed. Payment systems have been screwing over webcam girls, pot shops... We don't use any of these things! We just paypal into banks I know John we're not controversial nor are we no if someone gets pissed off about us then will have the same problem bro and i know about that bruh yeah i think you do know about that my point is were not like these guys were doing something different but

1:42:49 If we became a problem enough, then someone could easily... Look! WikiLeaks deplatformed by PayPal. MasterCard years ago This is nothing new But they're idiots if they think oh I've got some technology and it'll be fantastic No no I know well there's two things you have to think about one Jordan Peterson makes a lot of money on Patreon he has not been deplatformed Oh i didn't say he was No I know but he's acting as though he's going to be any second when it's not gonna happen So there's nonsense. So he's like, you know him and Ruben are making a big scene and they're promoting their tour I thought the whole thing was so commercial listening to them And then to think that there's a thing called core competencies is it kind of a mantra in the Silicon Valley? It's one eye subscribe too There's certain things you can do and there's certain things You can't do when you try to partner with people that cover your weaknesses and they cover your weakness I you know back-and-forth this what we do on the show

1:43:47 Jordan Peterson is a superb speaker, professor. A guy who can make money off books, best-selling writer and he has all these... He has to leverage that. He's not an entrepreneur! Has he ever been an entrepreneur? Is Dave Rubin ever been an entrepreneur at the level that we're talking about here, the Patreon guys? No, no. So you're just going to fall into a hole? Just what you said fall into a hole is gonna be never gonna dig your way out of it as a nightmare to do this unless it's your job. Yeah And neither one of these guys, that's not their job. Ruben is an interviewer and he likes to put together these shows. He's a producer, he's a broadcasting type guy. And Peterson is a professorial guy. You just can't, we've seen this over the years especially if you run in this area. Here's an example Scott Adams take that as your example. Scott Adams has been pushing his app and no one knows what it does. It doesn't work, it works,

1:44:48 Because this is not what he does. Scott Adams isn't even the best example, the best examples Al Gore? No how about Adam Curry's Podcaster Pro how about that as an example That's not a very good example because you've done a lot of little companies and you're always tinkering You're like an old retired guy, you tinker tinker tinker This is a core competency of yours so no that doesn't count Thank you. I feel better now about myself. That it was ripped off completely is actually a compliment! And they haven't sent me a demo unit, that's the egregious part... I don't think they've made copy number one yet. No no there's a guy from... They're demoing it on YouTube There are about 20 videos showing how it works Okay well I don't think they're in massive production They should be giving us both a copy Yeah A copy The point is that

1:45:43 These two guys are living in a dream world if they think they're going to go off and create a competitor to Patreon. Exactly, which was not a good idea to start with and I will remind everybody when we... Actually you don't even like Patreon so why would you want to make a copy of it? No when we started noagendasocial.com A mastodon instance as it's known In the hip marketing language of nerds What is that year-and-a-half ago now at least Two years maybe Maybe two years So what the fuck was my point You're talking about okay, please your last few words on this because I can't remember what you what did we what did you just say? I said that we didn't even like patreon. Oh, okay Remember so when we started no agenda social comm What happened was?

1:46:30 You know, of course a couple of producers started engaging with social justice warriors on the bigmastodon.com or whatever and they were harassing them in a fun no agenda way but triggering the social justice warriors which you can do on Mastodon because it's not Twitter, you won't get deplatformed What happened is we got on all the banned and blocked and silenced lists, which I'm quite proud of. Literally mentioned as free speech zone be careful! Free speech zone Nazi quadroons and Curry is a harasser And the harassment consisted of the following The woman who was complaining She had a Patreon she was promoting her Patreon so I went over there and I supported her patreon with like 10 bucks or whatever

1:47:17 No, no nothing just to be able to follow what she was doing immediately I got an email from the From the crisis tyranny action team at patreon who said no good You're blocked from ever talking to her ever posting ever giving money and I knew right then it's been taken over by social justice warriors Who have a patreon to sell their macrame? knowing whatever they do It's not for big media outlets. It is not for someone who wants to have a career in podcasting, which by itself was funny to say Now the couple other purge things can be done a couple other purge things big article in The New York Times I'm gonna have to defend Facebook or FS book on this one

CHAPTER 24 / 37 Discussion

Facebook Data Sharing and Privacy Misrepresentations

The New York Times reported that Facebook gave companies like Netflix and Spotify extensive access to user data. The hosts argue that much of this "sharing" was actually based on user consent through EULAs and app integrations that users actively sought out. They suggest the reporting is sensationalized, though they acknowledge the predatory nature of modern tech privacy agreements.

facebook· new york times· data privacy· ftc· netflix· spotify· eula

1:48:01 The New York Times touted that, oh, Facebag gave your data to Apple. I have a clip! Oh good because thank you where is it? Facebag and data giveaway. Companies like Microsoft Spotify Amazon Netflix were given access to far more Facebook users' data than even Cambridge Analytica the British PR firm that collected the data of 87 million Americans in a bid to sway the 2016 presidential election for Donald Trump. The data sharing appeared to violate terms of the 2011 consent agreement with the Federal Trade Commission on user privacy." Now, the way this has been presented by The New York Times also by Carlson last night is horrible and everyone's like holy shit they violated my privacy that

1:48:50 In general, what this is about is stuff you wanted and you liked. Because your phone asked you hey would you like me to add your facebag friends to your contact or address book? And you went yes! That's where you consented to it Hey would you like be able to share this tweet through email or connect the face bag and you said yes Hey would you like see what your friends are doing when they're searching on Bing You said Yes It's really a misrepresentation. Well, it is also a misrepresentation of the way you just presented it. These are EULA-like

1:49:30 situations, for example I wrote a whole column on this that's why it just triggered me. Is that Google for example if you want to use their maps which you may have to actually use the get from point A to point B in some strange area You have to consent the giving Google everything Yes Access to the microphone access your camera and so the list goes on for a month It goes on and on all your contacts everything you've ever used True true And you have no choice if you say, No I don't want to give you all this crap. You don't need any of it and you don't. You don't need any of it to give me a map. Excuse me that's exactly what I said. I said you wanted it and you liked it. You didn't want it! That's what I'm saying. You didn't want to use maps? You didn't wanna use maps?! No...I wanted to use the maps but I didn't want to give them all these powers over here Oh no I understand that

1:50:23 But yeah, but the way you present it is as though the person gladly volunteered. No yes they did! Nobody gladly volunteers for anything this is a scam Okay we're both right What did you write a column about this? Where'd you write about this? It was on PC Magazine, I don't know six or seven months ago. By the way, I just wanted to mention when just briefly deplatforming You know you were actually de-platformed from PC magazine for something you did so it's not like... I never thought of it that way but thats great! Its not like its out of the realm ThankYouTroll room is not like it's out of the realm possibilities Now one last thing This is insider info One of our millennials Is connected to a Google content reviewer

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Google Content Reviewers and Cell Phone Scanning History

A discussion on Google's content reviewers reveals that employees often overhear private conversations when "smart" microphones stay open too long. This prompts a historical anecdote about the era of analog cell phone scanners, where people could use modified Radio Shack equipment to listen in on their neighbors' private calls, ranging from drug deals to personal affairs.

google· eavesdropping· privacy· analog cell phones· scanners· radio shack· anecdote

1:51:06 Which apparently pays pretty well. You can sit at home, couple hours a day They're talking six seven hundred dollars a week in just reviewing content that is uploaded and submitted to Google What I never realized is that when you say hey Google or what? Is it okay Google? What does the trigger word these days? Okay Google I think No, I don't know. I don't use it! I think its Hey Google now That is also reviewed by content reviewers And apparently there's a lot of conversations that the content reviewers are privy to because these things, the mic opens up and it just stays open sometimes four or five minutes and they hear entire conversations between people. That's cool! Okay Google... You know what? I feel like you're flocking to this job So yeah actually sounds better than this gig i can't wait

1:52:04 Well, eavesdropping is something that people enjoy. During the era... I have to tell this story it's kind of disgusting. Maybe i'll save it for later. Nope! The show needs it now So during the era of analog cell phone conversations you could get a snare You could get a scanner and actually the one you get was a famous one was a Radio Shack scanner. Yeah, I remember it and you just had to solder One resistor or diode? I think it was and then you meet of course the back would never fit on again of your scanner Put the thing back together and then all of us in the display everything changed oh

1:52:47 And now it was a cell phone scanner. Yeah, it was great! So apparently the circuit was already in there for scanning cell phones so you could turn it on this was I think at the time...so many years ago I don't remember- I was an MTV I remember having it in the car driving home listening to people on their cell- You usually only hear one side of the conversation sometimes? No, I always had two- I got both Okay But it was fantastic. So there's two, a couple of things I came away with the main thing that would the phone was that this era the phone is being used for was were guys calling their mistresses girlfriends before they got home from work. Hey baby and baby can't wait to see you apologizing that they can't be with him tonight because they have to go and stay with the old lady uh you know but just thinking about the ball and chain And so that was number one number two

1:53:43 was dumb idiots, this is before Google Maps. Call in their secretary around noontime asking where the restaurant is because they can't find it and the third one were drug deals and there were tons of drug deals So I'm like, when I was a kid we had party lines so it's kind of like built into my DNA to listen in on these things. I feel bad about it and should work for one of the spy agencies anyway. Anyway, I felt bad about it but I did this anyway because I would record some of these conversations that we'd play them at parties

1:54:22 Were there drugs at these parties? No, not that I can remember. So the one that was the worst was this guy calling his bear dad is you know his gay dad kind of this guy and he's going on with talking to the guys telling how it you know he's got to get turned on You gotta get me all turned on because my girlfriend's coming over And it was like such a EU moment. This guy was gay and he was talking to some other gay guy who is getting them all worked up so when his girlfriend came over, he'd be worked up pre-worked up so that she think that he was not gay because he was already aroused when she shows up and I just thought this was the most disgusting heinous thing I've ever heard and I still think I have the tape if i ever find it oh which is...I think I still have the tape and if I ever find it out post

1:55:17 Well, that's not that disgusting. I'm sure the statute of limitations is over for this. Did your head explode from this? It seems like... Makes you want to throw up! It was very nauseating. Yeah, I think you had to kind of hear it to be that nauseated by it. Made it bad! Hearing it was like... plenty for a bunch of people and everybody's jaw dropped and there was dead silence What? There are gay guys with girlfriends?! And everybody said the same thing after the tape was over which is the following line Everybody said it That poor girl! Everybody said that Of course Yeah, find that tape. Ebola! I have figured something out

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Ebola Outbreak in Congo and the Africa-EU Partnership

An Ebola outbreak in the North Kivu province of the DRC is highlighted. The hosts note that this region is rich in gold, diamonds, and minerals essential for cell phones. They discuss the "Africa-EU Partnership" and speculate that European elites are looking to secure African resort areas while African populations migrate to Europe, creating a "switcheroo" of demographics.

ebola· democratic republic of congo· north kivu· minerals· africa-eu partnership· chinese investment· migration

1:56:01 We've been looking at the Ebola scare. Yeah? Once again now in the DRC, the Democratic Republic of Congo where a lot of stuff has been going on we're just waiting for troops to be sent in this is usually what happens with Ebola when it was in West Africa we sent in troops and no one there was not really all the thing that had turned out to be they're trying to really trying to push the mean to get something going so people will be behind sending troops Although I'm not sure if it's gonna be US troops. Listen to this... We are entering the world of Ebola where no faint heart dares tread It is a world of pain and pity with our camera carried by their medical team The hell is this guy John Donne? Uh, think he's uh This is on CNN Okay Take some protective plastic

1:56:57 MSF offers as best it can a human touch. MSF Médecins Sans Frontières, the doctors without borders they usually show up in these types of operations and care for the desperately ill It is a highly contagious virus that can strip its victims of dignity Some arrive already so consumed by Ebola that it might be too late to save them.

1:57:33 Doctors are trying experimental drugs untested in clinical trials because there's no alternative. Still the death rate is more than 50%. The world has never been better prepared and armed with a battery of new drugs, better equipped to combat this disease And yet Ebola continues to confound every prediction and every projection. Since August, this outbreak has rolled through the jungles of Northeast Congo and has now arrived in Batembo a ramshackle city of 1 million people So I stopped the report there because that's where i said hold on what is this ramshackle place of a million people why is this being mentioned?

1:58:16 This is Nordkivu. What's the name of it? Botenko? Well, it's the province of Nordkivu. N-O-R-D or you could say North Kivu kilo India victor uniform huge amounts of minerals gold and diamonds are extracted from north kivu This is the number one place in the DRC. I'm reading from this, for a decade the province of North Kivu has been continuously facing challenges related to security operations that have been launched continue murders massacres abduction kidnapping of citizens 400 people have been reported killed this year

1:59:03 This is all about the extraction of whatever is in the ground. And, of course it's nothing but fitting that you... The number one place in the DRC and North Kivu where this happens is that people are dirt poor And this is where all of our wealth comes from. For your cell phone as well, by the way! Mostly cell phones. Cell phones... Well the diamonds and gold is also a part of it. Well cell phones that goes in there too. Not diamonds but gold But here's what I've been reading up on something called the EU Africa or the Africa-EU partnership which I'd never heard of before You're on a roll today Have you ever heard of the Africa-EU partnership? I have actually Yeah, I had not and this is something that started in 2004

1:59:44 It's a tangible commitment to peace and security between the EU and the African Peace Facility, dedicated more than 2.7 billion to support African efforts in conflict prevention and management." Take this for a second... Keep the Chiners out? Well, the Chiners no I don't think so here's what here's what I see happening There's about five different spots in Africa that are being built up by the Chinese with just beautiful buildings. Some have resorts, beaches... you know fantastic work and the Chinese are taking most of the minerals and whatever needs to be mined but what I think this may just be off what struck me is what if the EU really wants this partnership? Why do they want the partnership so that they can help shepherding these great new places

2:00:37 Where the elites of Europe are gonna go live they're all gonna move there They already have you know if you look at who's living in South Africa If you look what who's living in Mozambique? If you'd look all around Africa the elites all have homes there and these now being built into beautiful resort areas by the Chinese And what's interesting is the poor people Of Africa are moving to Europe So it's kind of a switcheroo. It is! It's like, let all the shitheads we don't need in Africa... Let them come live here We got our beaches set up down there. It seems like that's a possibility Yeah I dunno Okay Just A Thought

2:01:22 It's a little too unstable, it seems to me for the elites to really want to spend a lot of time. Paraguay I could see it. Like Mozambique is like the Dutch king and queen have houses there so this is all over the place Well maybe it's a backup place to go Generally speaking the elites wanna go in Gestalt or Zug No that's...I think thats passe That's where they go for winter sports That's where they go there. They go to Kshtat and Zukhin, wherever else...to ski and hang out. Davos! Yes well Davos is going on right now in the sanctioned Russians who are not supposed to come in I guess the Mignitsky Act Russians were blocked initially yeah and now they're all approved of course come on you got a bunch cash

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GoFundMe for the Border Wall

Veteran Brian Colfage started a GoFundMe campaign to crowdfund the U.S.-Mexico border wall, raising over $5.7 million in three days. The hosts compare the success of this campaign to their own "value-for-value" model, noting the high level of public interest in the project despite the massive $1 billion goal.

gofundme· brian colfage· border wall· crowdfunding· veterans

2:02:19 And just before we take our break, I did want to make mention of this GoFundMe that has been set up by Brian Colfage. He is a Purple Heart veteran triple amputee and i'm pretty sure this is legit and he set up a GoFundMe titled We the People Will Fund the Wall! The goal was one billion dollars and I will say in three days I'm looking at the campaign now, they've raised 5.7 million dollars just from people contributing from 94 thousand people Now this is interesting How come we can't get 94 thousand to contribute so that we get 5.7 million dollars? What are we doing wrong

2:03:07 We don't have a wall. A wall? We don't have a wall to build? Right, and I love the idea of this but i think people underestimate how much a billion is. Yeah, I think so! Because when you get... It's a million million! Yeah, it's like no it's a thousand million. Well okay well that depends the European used to be a million. No, a bilion in the Germanic languages indeed a gajillion. I don't know what it is, but these are numbers we don't have to deal with anyway ever! No but we do okay...I mean i think we provide a service that's valuable. Well not as valuable as the wall

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Final Donor Credits and Knighthood Ceremony

The hosts complete the donor list for the episode, thanking producers for their financial support and "F-cancer" karma requests. A formal knighting ceremony is held for Sir Jack Connors, Sir Dwight the Knight, and Sir Geoffrey B. Marcy. The segment concludes with the elevation of Sir Francis to Earl and Dame Patricia to Viscountess.

donations· knighthood· peerage· earl of southwest florida· viscountess of biscayne bay· value-for-value

2:04:06 Wall to be valuable although it could be just a wall to keep us in Always gotta think of it that way too. I agree yep, yeah Maria Patricia Lim $100. Sir John Knowles, these are the people we want to thank, we're thanking them. Sir John Knowles, I don't have her location. Sir John Knowles, Baron of Murfreesboro! Murfreesboro has a Baron! It's his birthday today on the 22nd. Well that's okay he is on the list anyway. 8008. Sir Dave Pugh in Massillon, Ohio. 8008 Seth Anderson 8-0-0... You know I put these Easter eggs on the various newsletters with 8008 nobody sees them but then i'd put nothing and again a bunch of 8008s It's like you want some boobs? You don't get it? Well the thing is Robin when you're not looking for boobs that's when they show up

2:05:01 Gary Blatt, 6660. Donald Napier, 6660. Nicholas Robinson, small boob 6006 in Somerville Massachusetts nuts Also Alan Vivish in Trowbridge UK 6006. Need some F cancer karma for his mom and his dad so we'll make sure you take care of that. For sure Bob Wales, 58. This is interesting he says I'm 58 today you're on the list and after getting a phone call from Sir Chris Wilson down there in Australia. Chris Wilson if you've never heard him at the end of the show he does a lot of great songs we have one today as well He is the Michael Buble of Australia There's a Sydney meetup brewing! Good and Chris will be singing Bring your guitar Chris Yes Gonna be request night

2:05:57 Thank you very much. Dean Roker, 5510 UK Amanda West in Minneapolis 5510 Sir Bob of the dudes name Ben High Point North Carolina 5510 Axel Paul 55 thanks for keeping my sanity by the way sir bob nc4rg 73s yes 73 kilo five alpha charlie charlie sir chris sunberg and mercer island washington he also sent a nice that was a check and a very nice card saying uh Happy Christmas, Merry Christmas. Happy New Year." So we had two cards he's got the second card now the following up with Shannon Atkins 50-50 keep it up Mo Fos Jonathan Evans 50-50 Donald Ripple in Dresden Ohio Oh I'm sorry was Donald Ripple in Dresden Ohio that sent a card 533 and it and I wanted to thank him for the card Sir Chris did not send a card oh man

2:06:56 Okay, now the following people are $50. It's not a big list today by the way it's not that big. Okay 50 dollars or more I'm giving name and location if applicable Scott Lavender our buddy? No, no its that's a different one you're thinking Cal Oh okay this is the Montgomery Texas Scott Lavender Yes yes How can you have two people with the same name Because the guys name is Cal not Scott Oh, this is Cal. No! This is Scott Lavender has nothing to do with it. You're thinking of lavenderblossoms.org which is Cal's operation and the official CBD supplier of the show. Okay I think we're... okay Scott Lavender in Montgomery Texas

2:07:40 could get a lot more mileage if he changed his name to Kip. That's what happens. Chicks are in your future! Brad Taylor and Duval Washington 50, Eric Wilka 50 Sir Andrew Gusek in Greensboro North Carolina George Wuchet I believe in Universal City Texas He keeps sending me how to pronounce his name is w-u-i-c-h-e-t I think it's Wuchet Jason Ron in Ship Bottom, New Jersey. I love the name of that town it's right up there. Ship bottom? I live in ship bottom! Alex Simkus, Dolet Zangusen, Zangusan in Bellevue Washington. Joel Deruin in Savannah Georgia Sir Davy of the Sooner State obviously in Oklahoma Trey Ehrenberger and Ames Iowa Sir Corbin Underwood

2:08:35 Sir, I'm sorry James crane in Missouri City Texas or Missouri City and time sure. I'm sure why why? And last but not least for Jerry ringing with Roth who comes in constantly from Saugus California when the very scene of a terrible story that murder somebody in Saugus. Anyway, a way to end on an upbeat note. These folks are helping us on 1096. If it was for them we wouldn't be doing this show and we also thank everyone who came in under $50 just as important although we don't mention anything above 50 for brevity but also for anonymity and we really appreciate everyone who's on our subscriptions remember we do have another show coming up on Sunday I do have a make good here from Sir Veiled of Nebraska Nuts

2:09:22 Uh, let's see. I donated $100 back on the 1st of December show 1091 and requested some house-selling karma while you and John did talk about how i was surveilled of nebrasnuts formerly on the show. I moved to Elgin Illinois my karma was missed! The house selling process has been a little slow and I could use a much needed karma shot in the arm can you help a knight or baronet out Brian Hertziger surveiled of nebrasnuts now Just want to explain again that this is our producers came up with this we have never You know all we know is that when people ask for karma for jobs Is where I think it started? It seems to work and maybe it's some network effect with a lot of people listening to it. I don't know but I do want you to report back Surveilled of Nebraska nuts and let us know if the house selling Karma works, you've got Karma

2:10:17 And then an emergency karma health request from Paul Couture we all know Paul he has done a lot for the show He is he calls him. What are you? Are you writing a book? Are you reading a book if your pages of very loud proving that I'm here go on I was actually looking for the Paul Couture note. I have it! He bills himself as the lazy art generator guy, well noagenderartgenerator.com is still running we're very appreciative of that he says the better half of the Art Generator family has been in the ICU since Monday And regardless of superstition, I firmly believe that positive thoughts can make a difference and any and all of those would be greatly appreciated because i have no clue how I could get by without her. So... Of course we have the karma for her! You've got Karma Alright, think that's it on the Make Goods Anything else? No, looks like about it Alright F Cancer then! Fucking cancer! Fucking cancer! You've got Karma

2:11:23 And today, the 20th of December 2018 we have a list of birthdays. Not too long! We have three on the list Congratulations to Rob Wales turning 58 today Sir John Knowles will be 46 on December 22nd and Amanda West says happy birthday to her friend Adam Barrett He'll be celebrating on December 22nd as well Happy Birthday from everybody here at The Best Podcast in... in the universe. We've got to let's do the titles now why don't we do that? I like doing this way. Douchebags, slaves.

2:12:11 For the titles are a-changing. Two title changes, we discussed her in great length Dame Patricia Worthington becomes Viscountess today The Viscountess of Biscayne Bay and Sir Francis of SRQ becomes Earl Of Southwest Florida Congratulations and thank you both for supporting the show Time for our knights if you can grab your blade between your pages I have it here Between my pages Ah got it okay Up on the podium, please! Jack Connors, Dwight Chick and Jeffrey Marcy. All three of you gentlemen are about to join the illustrious round table of The Noah Jett & The Knights & Dames for your support of the show in the amount of $1,000 or more And I'm therefore very proud as always to pronounce the KB Sir Jack Connors of Broadwater County Sir Dwight The Knight

2:13:02 and Sir Geoffrey B. Marson for you guys I've got Hookers & Blow, Red Boys & Chardonnay Tea Earl Grey Hot Cookies & Vodka Warm Beer & Cold Women Brisket & Barrel Age Copper Ale Redheads & Rye's Beer & Blunts Cowgirls & Coffin Varnish Geishas & Sake Gingrail & Gerbils Bongets & Bourbon And Mutton & Mead NoahGenderNation.com slash rings is where you can give Eric the shill your details will make sure the ring and the sealing wax and your official certification gets to ASAP And please tweet out a picture when you get it, and we always love that stuff Thank you for supporting The NOA Agenda Show! The best podcast in the universe So they're cracking down on drunks in Canada? No. Yeah play

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Canada's Mandatory Breathalyzer Laws and Civil Rights

New laws in Canada allow police to demand breath samples from any driver without reasonable suspicion of impairment. Civil rights activists express concern that these powers will lead to increased racial profiling. The hosts predict that such mandatory testing will eventually become a global standard, potentially integrated directly into vehicle ignition systems for insurance purposes.

canada· breathalyzer· impaired driving· civil rights· racial profiling· australia· switzerland

2:13:53 Yeah, new drug drivers Canada. Big changes to the criminal code came into effect today If you're stopped by a police officer now anywhere in Canada expect to be A demand to be made from you just to provide a breast sample Officers can now demand a breath test from anyone they lawfully pull over. They no longer need evidence of the reasonable suspicion that the person was drinking and maximum prison terms for many impaired driving offenses have been increased from five years to ten. Of course, the intention is to make us safer but at what cost? As Jayla Bernstein tells us civil rights activists are concerned about who might be targeted

2:14:33 Just doing a ride spot check tonight. Any alcohol for you at all? No A question that's perhaps quite innocuous if you're sober but for visible minorities interaction with police can be a minefield I have people around me especially men they've been stopped while driving in their life 30, 40 times They're not criminals they don't have any criminal record so just the everyday reality of a black person that drives She is worried about how police will use their new powers Every time a person of color is stopped for no reason, it leaves a trace. It's not just the internet in itself, it's sometimes the violence of those incidents. Wait a minute... Canadians are racist? Nah! No-no-no I can't believe this they're not racist

2:15:23 Well, it seems that they are. Hmm... So let's play part two and get a little facts! Canada has one of the highest rates of driving deaths linked to alcohol in the developed world And advocates say it is partly due to lack of so-called mandatory breath tests In fact, many countries already have mandatory testing programs in place. After Australia first introduced it in the late 70s the number of deaths on the road dropped by 20%. In Switzerland where mandatory screening started in 2005 drivers testing positive for alcohol fell from about 25% to about 7%.

2:16:01 Seven. You know, being from the future I can tell you exactly where this is going eventually it'll happen here it will happen everywhere in France It's already besides your yellow vest It's already mandatory to have a breathalyzer In your vehicle so the next step isn't easy one you blow the breathalyzer otherwise it doesn't start This which is actually a circuit that's available its yet existed said Texas has it all the time for DUIs And it's a... you can just see it coming down Broadway. You're gonna need it for your insurance, that's how it always starts and hey you got nothing to worry about if you don't drive drunk! It's not a problem just blow into the tube. Blow into the tubes slave!!

2:16:45 You may go. Oh, yeah. That's that's seen it before now that your typical Internet like oh look at this well okay that was three months ago agree with that that was three months ago no apparently it happened again he missed the step and tumbled and tumbled backwards and people had to catch him but people got to keep a camera on that guy yeah really how could you miss that or was there some form of D notice maybe you gotta wonder took a tumble guy is purely just a raging alcoholic

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Trump Foundation Closure and Media Double Standards

The Trump Foundation has agreed to dissolve following a lawsuit by the New York Attorney General alleging "shocking illegality." The hosts note that the story received more detailed coverage in Canada (CBC) than in the U.S. They argue that the mainstream media avoids deep dives into foundation scandals to prevent drawing attention back to the Clinton Foundation.

trump foundation· clinton foundation· new york attorney general· cbc· charity· illegality

2:17:31 No, it's sciatica John you think he's the raging alcoholic cheese The Belgian government has fallen over a version of the yellow vests. You know his junker that is fallen After junker then Belgium went shit here we go to word were going down in his wake and they've come up with I see this article that I was reading its Dutch article anyway maybe there was an The French, the yellow vests somehow have gotten it into their heads. I'm not quite sure and someone's gonna have to explain this to me that you know the money that France doesn't have To fix the issues that they...that the populace has

2:18:23 They're saying if you don't have the money to pay for climate change stuff or whatever, instead of taxing us they're suggesting Google and Facebook pay for it. Which I think is great! Hey! Well Google and Facebook are all in on climate change so maybe they should pay for it? I think that's a great idea Yeah At Google Apple Facebook Amazon So the request says You know what these guys should be paying for Now this would come in form of some sales tax I'm sure So ultimately the slaves will pay for it, but it's an interesting idea. You just gotta respect the Frenchmen you just got to respect what they do and we're not getting half the reporting of what is really happening with these protests No, the protest thing... even Democracy Now! isn't covering it the way they should considering that y'know they are all in for protests so the Trump Foundation got busted and closed down and shuttered

2:19:20 More or less. And it was very poorly reported in this country, but I got a pretty decent report of it from CBC in Canada. And for the president another legal twist today his charitable foundation has agreed to shut down its remaining funds given to other court-approved nonprofits as the lawsuit against it continues The New York Attorney General accuses the Trump Foundation of quote, shocking illegality. Functioning as a checkbook for the US President's business and political interests in short that Trump's charity was about giving back to himself My whole life I've been greedy greedy greedy I grabbed all the money i could get I'm so greedy but now I want to be greedy for the United States! I want to grab all that money! I'm going to be greedy for the United States

2:20:07 That includes during the 2016 presidential campaign. Trump allegedly solicited donations for his foundation in Iowa His campaign then decided which local charities got those big novelty checks that was just days ahead of Iowa's vote on the Republican nominee Lawyers for the foundation say any infractions were minor You know, I agree with you that it's very poorly reported and i don't understand why. Isn't that exactly what you want? To say oh stop talking about the Clinton Foundation look at Trump! No no...I think you're wrong okay. I think it's poorly reported for the exact reason you said because people don't want anyone to be thinking about Clinton Foundation. Wait a minute if we're gonna do this with Trump aren't we looking at Clinton more

2:20:54 Makes nothing but sense. So let's not talk about that. Let's talk about Flynn and let's talk about the Russians Let's talk about this thing you had your early reporting on right? Let's don't talk about whatever you do Don't talk about them Why would they bust Trump's foundation when Hillary Clinton fought or their bill in Hillary Clinton Foundation is really out of control so it was repressed as a story by the mainstream media United States Those racist drunks I actually got a couple of good stories from Canada. This was interesting because I forgot about this, the Canadian post which is their mail service

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Canada Post Strike and New TSA 3D Scanners

Canada Post has restored most services following rotating strikes, though backlogs remain in Vancouver. In aviation news, O'Hare International Airport is testing new 3D scanners that may eventually allow travelers to keep liquids in their carry-on bags. The hosts credit the Chertoff Group and L3 for the rollout of this expensive new technology.

canada post· vancouver· tsa· 3d scanners· o'hare airport· liquids· chertoff group

2:21:35 been going on a lot of wildcat strikes and good news for people before Christmas, they've restored the service finally. And good news if you're hoping to get a package in the mail before Christmas Canada Post now says it's caught up on most of its parcel delivery The backlog was created by rotating walkouts by its employees who were legislated back to work last month Normal holiday delivery service guarantees have been restored across the country Except in Vancouver. What? Except in Vancouver! Except in Vancouver, Spuzzum's not gonna get their mail! Oh no, Spuzzum is in trouble! Alright I have a quick update clip

2:22:19 We talked about this, I don't know if it was a couple months ago but the Chertoff group and the L3 guys. It's happening! Travelers at O'Hare may soon be able to leave liquids in their carry-on bags thanks to new scanner. It produces 3D images that give TSA agents better view Two dozen airports already use these scanners. O'Hare will be first to combine them with automated screening lanes They likely won't be used though until after the holidays. The TSA still testing the machines and training agents on how to operate them. Woo! Take your drink with you, slave! Is that that... what was this again? This is- Was that big giant new scanner I saw at Oakland? Yes. Ummm no Does it look like a giant bullet? Yes, thats the one Oh, i think its gorgeous Yeah

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Elon Musk's Boring Company Tunnel and 3D Infrastructure

Elon Musk unveiled a prototype tunnel in Los Angeles designed to bypass surface traffic. Reporters from CBS and Bloomberg provide conflicting details on the speed and throughput of the system, which uses modified Teslas on tracks. The hosts debate Musk's "3D solution for a 2D problem" and question the safety and efficiency of the underground network compared to traditional subways.

elon musk· boring company· los angeles· tesla· tunnels· gail king· bloomberg

2:23:04 It's really expensive. And it can't, it has to cost a mint! And now you can take your drinks and your carry-on thanks to the scanner see how good that is? See how good technology is for us oh yeah they allow us to take our bottled water with us speaking of technology I have to play this tech news report from Bloomberg And I need to play this so that you understand why we're the world is in the predicament that we're at. When reporting about things that have gone horribly wrong with technology, turn into glitches and people just don't give a crap about trying to figure out what actually happened or again... The no longer valid occupation of being a journalist So here's one of those people Sarah McBride! I think we know her Do we know Sarah McBride?

2:23:52 Possibly. Wasn't she on Silicon Valley Tech Person? It rings a bell to me too I probably know her so she's on Bloomberg which is a serious business operation and she is going to report on the boring companies tunnel in Los Angeles now there's a lot of things I'd like to know about what about this you know first of all Why is it so special that you know only Elon apparently can ten bore these tunnels? What is the point I mean there's a lot of things. I'd like to know and Yes, I was gonna say I have a report from CBS on this Oh well Let's do your CBS report and then we'll do the Bloomberg listen carefully because this is Gail what's titled brah the borrowing company

2:24:49 Of course you use the. Okay, gotcha I found it Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk has declared war on what he calls soul-destroying traffic He has unveiled a prototype of his solution a tunnel beneath Los Angeles that he claims will revolutionize commuting CBS this morning's Gail King took one of the first test rides You can go ahead i think How fast is this? This is still slow. We're only doing 20, 28 30 miles an hour. Oh my god! We'll speed up after we get around the corner." This isn't just any tunnel... It's Elon Musk Tunnel and to understand why were speeding through it

2:25:36 You need to go back a couple of years when he decided he had enough Los Angeles traffic gridlock. Either we try something new or will be stuck in traffic hell for the rest of our lives This is the underground network he envisions electric cars using street level elevators should drop down into a series of tunnels autonomous technology in the cars ensure that they don't run into each other Despite going speeds over 125 miles an hour. Tunnels are in my view the only solution to urban congestion because we have a 2D road network and we have buildings in 3d Well, I have to say that's actually answered some of my questions A couple of them. Uh...I like that she said it's Elon Musk's tunnel No one wants to be in that tunnel

2:26:27 Well she's going, oh I'm scared to death and she's doing 20 miles an hour. Now i want to explain what you didn't see which is they show a animation of the cars the cars are dropped onto this little mini platform which i think has a couple of wheels on it that fit on the tracks in the tunnel so that cars just not they don't need self-driving because It's a platform on tracks. The car, I don't know where this used the motive force of the car? I would hope not but i think it probably does and the reason why I say I hope not is because what happens if one of these cars stalls in the middle of this 10 mile tunnel and you know stops runs out of gas I guess the other cars can bump it forward

2:27:11 I also don't know what happens if a car explodes and catches on fire in the middle of this tunnel. I'm sure he's thought of everything, but it looks to be only applicable to electric cars because i don't think you want a tunnel filled with carbon monoxide which is one of the byproducts of a motor gas engine, internal combustion engine. Well let's listen to... that was kind of a puff piece you know you bring in Gail she's puff piece person yep and she did a little puff piece with him well I think Sarah McBride was better Sarah McBride is that her name? yeah well the event was super fun lots of razzle-dazzle this is Bloomberg Business News reporting

2:27:56 Lots of razzle-dazzle. Well, the event was super fun lots of razzle dazzle all kinds of celebrities and people just wanting to take a ride in the car Elon was there his girlfriend Grimes was there His mom was there and it was super fun to get a ride in the cars Tell us about what that was like. So the trip I went on was a little bit space agey, you got in a modified Tesla and it's been modified so that the wheels can fit along grooves at the side of the tunnel and do you just send in this

2:28:36 Batman-like elevator and you come out into a tunnel, small tunnel with a lot of flashing lights and then the car kind of takes off. And it has to be a self driving car though Elon Musk says in future it won't have to be Tesla all the demonstrations yesterday were on Teslas. So next step for Boring Company Elon Musk just tweeted this loop is demonstrating high throughput at high speed target is 4,000 vehicles an hour at 155 miles and hours. So walk us through how this actually works at scale it sounds like just a car on track right so in one sense it's really old school as you say its the car on a track in a tunnel

2:29:22 But because it's automated, Elon Musk thinks there will be many cars going together probably a lot tighter than in existing tunnels. And it won't just be one tunnel. He's hoping that in the future, there will be layers of stacking tunnels so even though one car at a time can fit per tunnel if you have a row of three or six tunnels that's a lot more cars traveling at once and because they'll be going up to 150 miles an hour in these giant networks he envisions under cities If that happens, it could take some congestion off the streets

2:30:05 That was only half this fucking sorry, this report. This is Bloomberg twice Bloomberg Business News three times actually eight Okay that was the worst report ever good find details wrong if you heard they went from CBS Elon himself said 125 miles an hour so where's she getting 150 155 which is pushing the limit of efficient, especially it's not going to be very efficient at those speeds. So I don't care if it's electric or not." Also she makes it sound as though the cars go through one at a time and the only thing that's going to create throughput is multiple tunnels when in fact with the system like this you can especially if it's landing on a platform that gets dropped on the track you could just stack up you can have them like car after car after car have a whole slew of them

2:31:00 Flying down the thing you know bumping into each other. I'll respond to the end of your clip musk said we have He said we have two dimensions. What does he say? We had two dimensional problems with a 3d solution Is that what he said just kind of interesting? He said that we're living in it My summary of it because I heard it a couple times and let me you know, what if we can also just go to the yeah Let's just go play it Yeah see our tunnels are there might be The only solution to urban congestion Because we have a 2d road network and we have buildings in 3d ah If that's so

2:31:38 Why does why is he so obsessed with going to Mars? Why not just start a colony in space I mean we have Space Station We can build him into the idea is to get people off the earth made that logical leap But it'll keep continue because I think that well no the logical leap is Elon with this solution So he's coming up with an interesting solution for a 2d road network ID No, the problem is we have a 2D road network. Yes and he wants to make it 3d network by digging tunnels So when you know he's talking about sending people to Mars and Mars colonies and living on Mars And Mars is going to be great When doesn't make a lot more sense just build something in space? Why do why do we always have to be on the surface of a planet I guess it's a general question I guess if he so smart about things why doesn't he just build this big space station Well why don't we just build a dome around this

2:32:35 globe and then put people on the top of the dome. In other words, build like a Dyson dome so we cover the entire thing and they put holes in it so that sun gets through and then have people living on top of the dome in little houses That way we'd have like a 3D, we'd max out the 3D part. Now the thing about 2D and 3D road things is every time they try 3D roads and we had one in San Francisco Bay Area where it collapsed in an earthquake which was the double-decker roads they have them all over Texas you got one in Austin I think That's 3D? Subways are 3D. By standards? Subways are 3D, I got subways And you go to Chicago there's layers under the city of Chicago that you can drive Yeah this was four layers. Definitely get on 25 miles an hour but you can get out of town if you can get down there where there is only two or three entrances But you go down and thats how you get to the Billy Goat Tavern it's underground So you go down into that underground network of roads and boom! You can fly out of Chicago

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Sandy Hook Promise Anonymous Reporting App

A new PSA from Sandy Hook Promise promotes an anonymous app for students to report potential school shooters. The hosts criticize the initiative as encouraging a "Stasi-like" culture of snitching among youth. They compare the trend to historical warnings about communist regimes turning neighbors against one another.

sandy hook promise· school shootings· anonymous reporting· snitching· stasi· fidel castro

2:33:39 All right, it had nothing to do with my question but thanks. I appreciate it. If you see something say something... It's the same refrain after almost every incident. I knew something was up with that guy or I knew he'd do something like this in fact government statistics show in 80% of school shootings someone knew about the plan ahead of time a point dramatized by the anti-gun violence group Sandy Hook Promise in a chilling new PSA Look at me! The ad shows a fictitious shooter launching his attack after a series of warning signs went ignored, a painfully common reality. Being able to report such concerns anonymously by app is a game changer for students like Becca Arabis-Cockley. Yeah I think a lot of people

2:34:27 They don't want to be like the snitch of the school. Senior Daniel Radka agrees a few years ago He heard a kid threatening a school shooting but was too afraid to tell a teacher I didn't want it to get back to the kid that I had reported him, I did not want other people to know because it was kind of a joke and I didn't know if that was cause enough to tell anyone. Turns out that wasn't a real threat, but next time Radke says a reporting app would be way more in his comfort zone It's kind of like the difference between having a phone call and sending a text You don't have to deal with that person face-to-face. You don't have to talk to that person you say what you want To say and then you're off the hook tips get triaged at a national call center by crisis counselors who can immediately involve local police and or school officials They can also message back and forth with the tipster many schools say the app has already paid off

2:35:17 And these youngsters will become fine, upstanding citizens of society in their adult future. Yeah! Members of Stasi! Yep that's exactly... and it's so nice because I don't have to- It's like texting, you don't have to deal with anybody which is exactly the problem We've seen that in your dossier here there are been three complaints about your threats Yes we have some complaints You must be a bad person! They have some problems I think this is not good!! Oh yeah, this is great. This is the old thing when I was a kid. I remember two or three things when I was a kid that were taught in grammar school and actually in grammar school we were taught how to dance, how to balance checkbooks practical things and then we're taught about United States and how great it is which is never taught anymore And one of the things that kept cropping up where the horrors

2:36:08 of what's going on in South Africa where they're required, they're requiring the citizens. I'm telling you this is exactly the kind of mood. They are requiring their citizens to have ID just to go one place to another! They make them carry IDs! That was an outrage. We would never do that here The other one was right after the communist... What year was this? Is it like 70s This is 50s. The other one was the, this was in the probably late fifties or early sixties and this was very common

2:36:50 Oh, it's horrible how this Fidel Castro took over and they're turning neighbor against neighbor. They're making neighbors turn each other in snitching on the neighbor so that gives them a bad note on their records. This is really bad that this is going on." And this was drummed into us by the way as horrible. Horrible that people would be snitching on each other just to get points with the government. Boom! Same thing you did this story, you just gave us. That is still available for licensing. Yeah I don't know what's wrong with people. Best jingle ever

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Twitter Hack and the Borderline Bar Shooting Investigation

Twitter is investigating a potential state-sponsored hack originating from China and Saudi Arabia. In a separate investigation, a California doctor named Zung Pham was arrested for illegal drug distribution. Authorities have linked Pham's prescriptions to the suspect in the Borderline Bar mass shooting, though the specific drugs involved have not been disclosed by the media.

twitter· hacking· china· saudi arabia· borderline bar shooting· zung pham· prescription drugs

2:37:31 Here's another story that was repressed. This ended up on Democracy Now! I didn't know about this, Twitter was hacked. Twitter says it's investigating whether state-sponsored hackers were able to gather personal data from its users. Twitter says the hack could be related to unusual traffic from IP addresses in China and Saudi Arabia. Ooh, unusual traffic? They actually released a report that said that Is that what I have to believe here? The Twitter said, we're seeing some unusual traffic from China. It's unusual! We may be hacked is that what i have to believe from that report? I assume so yes. Yeah jeez...I have something that now talk about suppressed. I think this is big news this is about the borderline bar shooting in California

2:38:20 How many people were killed in that? It was another horrible event. We've already forgotten about it, it was just a couple weeks ago. I forgot eight, I don't remember. And a cop or two I think is horrible and some of the people who had survived the Vegas massacre We're caught in this one as well, but listen to this. Drug enforcement agents say they surprised Irvine doctor Zung Pham at his Orange County home this morning arresting the 57 year old and seizing dozens of guns The raid went down in Tustin. 31 rifles and 27 pistols were hauled away from the doctor's home, according to federal officials And there is a connection authorities say between Zung Pham his drug prescriptions and the man allegedly behind the borderline bar shooting

2:39:12 It also extends, according to officials, to the suspect in a Costa Mesa fire captain's death. Mike Kreza's alleged killer was under the influence of drugs at that time prosecutors claim and he... ...told investigators that he was on medications prescribed by this doctor And in his car at the time of the collision, they found pill bottles that had this doctor's name on them. Zung Pham was in federal court late today. According to the federal affidavit five victims have overdosed and died who were also receiving and filling prescriptions from Pham from 2014-2017 quote from September 13th 2018 to October 2nd 2018 over a hundred different patients texted Pham to refill their prescriptions

2:39:56 oftentimes dictating to Pham what they wanted. Agents say they have this text message about the borderline mass shooting that was sent by Dr. Pham, quote one of my patient just told me it reads that the thousand oak shooter Ian David Long had my prescription bottles that belonged to someone else I never saw Mr. Long before so i don't know the implication of this information So here's what's interesting. One, I didn't hear about this anywhere no one is talking about this. Where'd you get this? This is... I'm sorry, I can find it for you. I don't know exactly where I got it. A producer sent to me and the link and I recorded but I couldn't find it You need to know. But okay go on. So couple of things 1 What the hell were the drugs?! Why will you not tell us reporter!

2:40:50 This was very annoying to me. What drugs? I would say that was the number one annoyance, a lack of reporting on the specific... Yes! ...specificness of the prescription of what the drug was And it sounds to me like it was a drug that may have been responsible for someone doing some crazy stuff and this is important. I would agree with that because that's what should've been reported. This is important we're not going to find out Unless someone else finds a report about this. This is from KCAL, this is that Los Angeles channel. Channel 9 in Los Angeles. disappointing that they won't tell us what the drugs were. I'd like to know, I think we could start something and we could get it going and have a little conversation about it if anyone's interested. Let me think K-Cal Commercial Operation probably has some sponsors. Yeah, yeah. Get some drug money you know? You can pay to run commercials about drugs maybe... If you guys are gonna keep slamming us as an industry, do you think we're gonna pull our advertising? Exactly!

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Trump Administration Bump Stock Ban

The Trump administration officially issued a rule banning bump stocks, giving owners 90 days to destroy them or turn them in to the ATF. The hosts discuss the technical reality of bump stocks, arguing they do not actually turn semi-automatic rifles into automatic machine guns as claimed by some media outlets.

bump stocks· trump administration· nra· atf· las vegas shooting· gun control

2:41:52 It's people that do the shooting, not the drugs. The drugs don't have guns. Wouldn't it be beautiful if they laid that on us? That would be mint! It would be great! Yes... So I have the Since we're talking about the guns in the shooting, I do have to report it. Trump will never get... The Trump administration does a lot of stuff that the mainstream media would be all for except for the fact that is Trump and so they don't reported at all just to keep us so we got our minds straight So this thing here, democracy now has no such qualms. So this is the bump stocks law that somehow got passed which I think a lot of the NRA folks think was just not necessarily good idea for long and it's kind of stupid but it brings up also point on what these things actually did

2:42:45 in the eyes of Amy Goodman, who have no clue and never shot a gun in her life I'm sure. So we'd set up first what our understanding is of a bump stock? People want to know what a bump stock is it's the stock of a semi-automatic gun that absorbs the recoil and jerks the gun around such a way that you end up pulling the trigger pretty quickly bang, bang, bang, bang. It's like bang, bang, bang. Quickly and very inaccurately Yeah, of course. The Trump administration on Tuesday issued a new rule banning the sale of bump stocks accessories that turn semi-automatic rifles like the AR 15 into fully automatic machine guns. The ban came more than a year after gunman Steven Paddock used bump stocks to massacre 58 people while wounding 851 others at a concert in Las Vegas under the rule change Americans will have 90 days to destroy their bump stocks or turned them into ATF agents

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Mystery Light in California Sky and Rocket Launch Rumors

A mysterious luminescent light appeared in the California sky, which the National Weather Service identified as a noctilucent cloud caused by a meteor. However, the hosts suspect it was a failed or aborted rocket launch from Vandenberg Air Force Base, noting that the visual evidence resembled an explosion in the upper atmosphere rather than a natural phenomenon.

vandenberg air force base· noctilucent cloud· meteor· rocket launch· delta rocket· california

2:43:46 The lobby group Gun Owners of America promised it'll sue to prevent the rule from taking effect. Thanks, Amy! I'm very informed now and feel much better about myself. It doesn't turn a gun into an automatic weapon? Yes it does! It's like as though you know well if you happen to have some sort of spasm in your hand and start shooting real fast... You didn't turn the gun into an automatic weapon?! No, it does not. It's just as minor things I mean this is typical but...I probably shouldn't be bitching about it. I have one last thing to share which I've been on for the majority of the length of this entire program all its episodes which is weather modification and oh yeah one of your favorites and we've talked about before you go on there was a weird anomaly last night I have a clip

2:44:41 Oh about the thing in the sky? I have a clip. And you know, I saw it- I want to comment on it Okay So this is not the clip that I was going to talk about but thanks for bringing it up here It is and you know I saw it too and it was quite the sight at 530 I was driving along interstate 80 with my photographer when we saw of course had to pull out my camera because I had to get this Almost in the shape of a lightning strike, only this mystery vision was no flash. It floated high above us providing a captivating view. Everything was dark except for this one little like white like reflective

2:45:22 thing. Epi Haas saw the unusual shape in the sky while driving in Yuba County, and I was like whoa like this is probably something rare that we're not going to see again. Landis Moroza took photos of the light while driving in Auburn calling it a sign from heaven. It's very perfect I'm happy when I see this. Willie Wood watched it from West Sacramento It definitely appeared really close It did not look like you know the distance of a shooting star when you see a shooting star in the sky, I mean it looks pretty close The National Weather Service Bay Area is calling this at noctilucent cloud a cloud that can be formed from a meteor the

2:46:16 and never took off. Sure, all right you live out there in California? We saw it we have a bunch of pictures I'll put one of them in the newsletter for remember good for you and Jay got a couple good shots of it so I go out and going down to grab something from the car there's this thing in the sky It was an upper atmosphere just as the sun was setting and it was so high in the sky the sun was still lighting it up. That's the reason it was so luminescent, because once the sun completely went away that thing was gone too and it looked to me because I've seen these before, I've seen Vandenberg launches, I've watched this thing go off into the sky and... And blow up? Well let me finish. So I've see a launch where I've seen this stage separation right over head and its very attractive to watch

2:47:10 And this look, I didn't get to see anything that formed this but i looked up and it looked like a rocket that had exploded. To me. That's what it looked like to me too And especially since Vandenberg says, oh no we scrapped our launch. Vandenberg's been trying to launch a secret spy satellite or something nobody will say what it is. It was going to be the Delta rocket and it looks as if it was launched... and there were some rumors about a rocket aborted first before they came out with their official statement that there was some aborted mission but the way they put it made it sound like it was blowed up

2:47:47 And like it went into the sky and then at some point they said, fuck this thing. I'm sorry to say that. There he goes! They said screw this thing and they... because when you look at the explosion there's a spot where you see where the explosion would have taken place and it would have flown in different directions including that loop-de-loop thing at the top. And they just deny it and come up with all kinds of... Then all of sudden we hear oh it's a Soyuz coming back Oh it was a meteor Swamp gas Bull crap North Korea This is some missile that blew up. That's what it looked like to me too, very high up though must have been really high. Very high up that was why I reflected because it was high enough up probably even out of the atmosphere just there was an optical illusion that was looking close because it was a big explosion and in fact it was probably monstrous but it so high up being hit by the sun same way the moon is hit by the sun you know its bright light bright object in the sky

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Weather Modification Experiments and Show Outro

The hosts discuss reports from the South China Morning Post about joint Russian and Chinese experiments to modify the atmosphere by heating ionized gas. They argue these experiments are often ignored in climate change discussions. The show concludes with a series of parody songs about "Pepe the Frog" and a discussion on the correct pronunciation of Jamal Khashoggi.

weather modification· china· russia· haarp· climate change· jamal khashoggi· pepe the frog

2:48:46 But yeah, it's bull crap. Something happened and it wasn't good. Now back to my original topic of weather modification... which I've been talking about for a long time. In 1978, Secretary of Defense Cohen at the time testified in front of Congress or Senate and said listen weather modification is real our other countries are using it our adversaries are using it we need to be in this game and we need to be fighting with weather modification then he also mentioned earthquakes and specifically that some countries have technology to create earthquakes

2:49:24 And this is from the South China Morning Post, which I guess it's reliable as far as you can say. It's reliable from China and that's... Well it actually produced out of Malaysia so I think it's pretty reliable. Headline! China and Russia band together on controversial heating experiments to modify the atmosphere A total five experiments were carried out in June One on June 7 caused physical disturbance over an area as large as 126,000 square kilometers or about half the size of Britain. The modified zone looming more than 500 kilometers high over Vasylursk a small Russian town in Eastern Europe experienced an electric spike with 10 times more negatively charged subatomic particles than surrounding regions

2:50:13 I don't think i have to go on to explain what's going on here. Oh, I do! Another experiment on June 12th the temperature of thin ionized gas in high altitude increased more than 100 degrees Celsius that's 212 degrees Fahrenheit because of the particle flux and they are doing... modifying the weather and they actually talk about HAARP but that's our version of it Of course that's just conspiracy theory just a stupid crackpot if you say that I think we need to be very aware of what they're doing and how can it be okay for global warming and climate change if you're heating up high altitude atmosphere to 212 degrees Fahrenheit? Well, this is part more a long-term elite scheme of some sort. To fry us! Can you fry us?! Yes exactly! Maybe...

2:51:15 Can't be good. No! You just gotta wonder with the crazy weather that's blamed on climate change, where is it coming from? Well definitely pushes the climate change agenda and what does that do? That is the end of Western civilization as we know it. And that is the end of... Destroy society as we know it On that happy note, that is the end of this episode of The No Agenda Show. It's your no agenda show and we love that you support us in many ways thanks to everyone who sent in clips ideas background questions information intelligence knowledge art and cash blankets water

2:52:01 And I'm coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas. Capital of the drone star state. Femur region number six in the governmental maps and the 5x9 Cluedio in the common law condo while at last In The Morning everybody! I am Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where I am now looking forward to going downstairs and having some more my delicious homemade sauerkraut. I'm John C. Dvorak We return on Sunday remember us at dvorak dot org slash NA and please stick around for our after show songs With the Michael Buble from Down Under. Adios, mofos! Gather round children

2:52:47 I have a tale to tell Of the cute little green frog Who wasn't the least bit gay Peppy, the green-faced fascist Was a very harmless meme Hanging around on Myspace And in other online zines All of the trolls on 4chan knew that he was public domain They would appropriate him for their evil shitpost game The election 2015, 4chan came to say

2:53:37 Peppy with your face so green, won't you be our alt-right meme? Then how the Nazis loved him and they tweeted out with glee Donald Trump was elected. The rest we know is history Deadly the Green-Faced Fascist was a very harmless thing Hanging around on Myspace and in other online zines All of the trolls on 4chan knew that he was public away Labelled Appropriate

2:54:22 For the real shitpost game Pre-election 2015, 4chan came to say... Happy with your face so green? Won't you be our alt right meme? Then how the Nazis loved him And they tweeted out with glee And Donald Trump was elected The rest we know is history! Berkley Hummer Jill Abramson Berkley Hummer Jill Abramson Jill Abramson Pulled and Fried Queen

2:55:29 I grew up here in Manhattan, Manhattan All day long, long I read the New York Times, boy All day long, I read the New York Times all day long On my iPad app all day long Mom, she's got worse. Ow, mom! All day long on my iPad. She has got more water.

2:56:25 On October 2nd, Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi went missing after paying a visit to the Saudi consulate in Istanbul Turkey. Hold on there... How do you even say Khashoggi? Kha-shog-ji Kha-shog-ji Khashoggi Khashoggi Khashoggi Khashoggi Khashoggi Khashoggi Have the official pronunciation! We've been trying to figure this out. Do we have the official pronunciation?! Yes way no The official way to pronounce it is Jamal Khashoggi. Khashoggi is used to call his... Hey, Khashoggi! Forget it. I wanna do Sharkton's with. Forget it. It's racist. Khashoggi? You may now play the pet peeve jingle. Thank you both. Yeah, I appreciate it. The best podcast in the universe! Can this bitch run the country?!