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00:00 Oh, goodness. Orange man bad! Sitting in driver update hell and broadcasting live from the capital of drone star state here in downtown Austin Tejas in the Cluedio E. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where it's been raining cats and dogs...I'm John C. DuBois It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! Well....it was only one hour delay Could have been a lot worse

00:42 The Zephyr beat us. Of course the Zephyr beat us! Although the Coastal was an hour late I've been in update hell... Well actually it was great this week, the updating. I did everything i needed to do and then at the very last moment something broke But that drive cloning you turned me onto? That was a fantastic experience Well doesn't sound like if it's broke something No, In general.. I don't think the drive cloning broke anything because I upgraded EVERYTHING Every update every you know the dry I think it's the drivers from the USB thing mark of the unicorn. I think they screwed something up It could be yeah, well I'd like drive cloning thing worked Well if it had any to do with a hardware mismatch because I've done this a couple of times using this Acronis great great piece of software

01:33 Yeah, what it does is it clones the disk onto another disk and then you flop the disks back and forth. It's even better than that! You just plug it into a USB, you hit clone, and then you swap the disks and it actually worked first time! That was an amazing experience! Yeah, boots As if it was the original disc only now you either have more space or you got a faster drive I would say the boot process is ten times faster Everything's fast. It's just I should have I should have ordered this thing with the solid-state drives to begin to begin with You know and I can see if I run like the registry scanner

02:14 It used to be the drive would tap out before the CPU. Now, the CPU goes to 100%, and the disk is still at 80%. So that's where I see a big difference. Yeah it's faster faster faster. They're not as fast as the superfast ones which you find in these... Which are those little dinky cards that don't run on SATA. The non-SATA SSDs are probably twice as fast as regular ones. I mean, I did so much this week! I even upgraded the firmware in my hearing aids. Which is a thing! And I heard the difference which is even funnier Anyway, anyway. Hey the Apple guys were in town last night the you know James here from the Apple podcast HQ and they always like to take a couple podcasters out to dinner and

03:04 Oh, okay. And you would have liked... well first of all you would like to be at one of these because it's... It reminds me when I was with MTV being a city and then the corporate office that MTV would say yeah you gotta have dinner with the local cable affiliate and his wife You know it feels like kind of those deals where they're in Austin now I gotta call up some podcasters alright let's get a couple around the table And we went to foreign and domestic which is a very small Can barely be called a restaurant up north, and I had the braised goat's neck pot pie

03:48 Which was a thing. That's about as disgusting as dish can be named it you know and because the one they just called it goat pot pie instead of goats neck It was no braised goats neck, and it sounds completely like you don't want to order But the waitress she was going on and on about his eyes the guy I'll take it. It wasn't outstanding product I wouldn't have known that was go to start off with No, goat is very hard to identify. It doesn't taste like much of anything actually it's a very mild version of lamb. People don't understand this but goat actually tastes milder than mild lamb if you don't like lamb or sheep which nobody eats in this country You'd like goat. Goat is very mild. Right and as you know here on the NO Agenda Show we love goat

04:39 We're goat oriented. We're very goat oriented. Goat oriented So a couple things, so what are you guys doing? We can talk about anything and it was Dan Benjamin was there and new guy from Apple And I guess they invited Lance Armstrong again but Lance Armstrong doesn't come anymore sends his producer Like okay nice guy buddy he's very nice guy So what's going on they have native podcasts on the Apple Watch They're very excited about that And I had to ask, how do i avoid getting de-platformed from the iTunes directory? Which I will remind you...I gave you the first version of the directory myself. That's what you started off with. Yeah yeah! You keep reminding people these things because they'll forget. The answer no hate speech What does that even mean?! That was my question!! I said what is that even mean well you know hate speech

05:37 It's like, okie dokie. They have a very broad definition of hate speech in other words if they hate you yes they'll pull your podcast that's honestly that's a bit the way it sounded I don't want to put words in anyone's mouth because no one said that but it's like now there was a lot of prep no one said this but my interpretation was there was a lot of pressure and it came down to we got to be in this we got to be on board with this we gotta get them off but Quote so you didn't invite Alex Jones to this meetup? Here's we kick off stuff. That is all far right stuff from Germany, and I didn't respond to that like okay I mean does that automatically mean they hate Jews and are killing them on the podcast or maybe they just don't like How Germany is being run

06:28 So it's very generally what those podcasts are about. Yes, but they don't like the migration issues you're having yeah Yeah, so there's another reason to kick him off kick him off Yeah So at the bottom line is keep going to the dinners keep smiling friendly and I think that I Think will be will be just fine actually I had a Benjamin doing Dan's good. Yeah, he's just the same I guess a little reminiscing about old days of old and just the typical stuff yeah I had something regarding speech and now i'm a little discombobulated

07:14 Want to dive I want to dive right into it my clip list I was gonna I'll dive right into this after I talk about that and there you go So why don't you get us started, and I'll keep searching for whatever the hell. It was I was going to talk about Let's go over the Never mind. I found it Shorty you like it And it's about hate speech. I knew i had something this is the European Parliament We are still in the throes of the Marrakesh Agreement which Is not discussed In The United States Of Gitmo Nation, we're also Not going to sign It but The EU is trying To get every one of the 27 Member states to Get on board. The main thrust

07:56 is that we recognize migration as an international issue and everyone should be able to migrate to wherever they want, no questions asked. Yeah of course! No borders, no people Yes yes, no borders, no nations, no people And the EU Parliament sees that there will be some additions or some interpretations of the Marrakesh Agreement regarding speech Meant to be the legal framework on which the participating countries commit themselves to build new legislation. And one basic element of this new agreement is the extension of the definition of hate speech, the agreement want to criminalize migration speech, criticism of migration

08:44 will become a criminal offense. And media outlets... This is the onion! No, this is not the onion unless this was overdubbed somehow and I didn't catch it. Let me just finish up. Criticism of migration will become a criminal offense and media outlets that also concerns you that give room to criticism of migration can be shut down There you go. That's bullcrap. What do you mean? This is a hoax, there's no way that this is a real clip It's okay it's the guys at the European Union he's answering questions from the press He's there with other EU Parliament buddies

09:27 I'm just saying, you don't think that this is a little sketchy? Yes but i searched and looked and saw other people say it sounds sketchy but the eyes don't lie. It's in European Parliament press conference about the Marrakesh agreement and this is a question that came up. And people aren't up in arms about this threat? No! Well you know the Italians already said no to Yes, the Hungarians have said no to it. The Polish has said noted a lot of people said no this thing is not going anywhere But that's beside the point the point being what you that clip mm-hmm I will be stunned if that guy if that's actually true stunned

10:10 That is going way too far. That's going overboard! It doesn't surprise me I mean hate speech, this is exactly what you'd expect hate speeches it's completely broad What can be interpreted any way there are no existing laws about in the United States speech-to-speech But in Europe and the UK there's all kinds of restrictions on hate speech We follow this and agree with that but never heard discussion of migration becoming a crime, you know, jailable offense. Migration sucks! Arrest him!" I think it's...I don't know if it well maybe he could be even like that but I mean if you say something nasty about a public politician in the UK that is an offense that you can go to jail for so this is not that far It's not even their own people okay yeah I was very surprised

11:09 Very surprised. Still sounds like the onion to me You know, you got to be careful because yeah I do come but I do check on things that you don't believe or you say is wrong and I Don't see it that often But that thing you have to admit out of the blue listening to that That's a little bit out of line Absolutely, but still I see no reason to not believe what this clip that I've seen it looks extremely believable It's hard, it is that something that you would call unbelievable. Yeah well it is unbelievable and I don't believe it Now just want to play a No Agenda classic on the last show we had a little back-and-forth about what I'd said about Trump and you said the guy will never win then I said no I think he can and have the genesis of this from 2015 This is what should be done but no politicians gonna do that

12:07 He doesn't got a prayer, he won't get nominated. He'll make a big splash, make it big scene...he's not spending a lot of money I don't see any ads or anything. No, no he doesn't have to right now! I don't think he is spending anything so it's just the travel Did you notice that Huffington Post puts all Donald Trump news on the entertainment section of their website? Yeah very funny That's objective coverage Of course, of course Ok let's play this because they're just going to be relentless and there are meetings going on You can be sure of this Anyone listening to this And anytime you're listening, there are meetings right now in New York, Washington and elsewhere. What are we going to do about this guy? Make him president! Why not just let him win?! They're getting paid not to make him president that's what these meetings are about these are not meetings of people... These are lobbyists and I would think

12:59 that the lobbyists will take money from other people. Look, the smart money is going to say you know what? Let's go with this guy let's run with him he's on our side! You're nuts Jeb Bush is gonna win it Hey you can play all those clips you want because you've already admitted you cheat What do I mean, I cheat? You're from the future. Oh this is true Thanks Chase for pulling that clip. Yeah thanks Chase. Now I'll play it- Let me play a happy clip because we talked about Dvorak on typing This was the DOS based typing tutor that featured John C. Dvorak

13:43 And wouldn't you know it that there are people who love you so much they have restored these games to work in a web browser. Games and in this case the typing tutor. It's kind of a game, in fact there is a menu option for games now its very...it's like 8 bit No, it's more. I was like 2-bit audio. I don't know what kind of audio this one is the right word Is it to bit because it sure sounds like it 27 seconds? Hold on a second you have to play day. That is not how its no of course not that's what sounds today hold on

14:40 Back then you already knew ITM. I guess the old game doesn't... That's a good one, ITM. Yeah use that as the outro. It doesn't translate somehow with audio. I'm sure it didn't sound like that. But the fact that it works is pretty cool! You gotta love stuff like that Alright, that's our show. I think we've pretty much handled everything. I think it was pretty probably late so let's just call it a day. Let's do some... Wait! I got something funny. Alright This is my clip about Trump gassing the Hondurans Yeah you mean women and children?

15:25 And little babies in diapers? This comes as the Trump administration defended the Border Patrol for firing tear gas into crowds of migrants, including mothers and children as they tried to cross the U.S. border from Tijuana Sunday. This is Ronald Colburn president at The Border Patrol Foundation former national deputy chief of US Customs and Border Protection speaking on Fox & Friends Monday The type of deterrent being used is OC pepper spray. It's literally water, pepper with a small amount of alcohol for evaporation purposes it's natural you could actually put it on your nachos and eat it so its a good way of deterring people without long term harm. Yum!

16:09 That's some Trump defense right there, but I think there's a better one. You know this has happened every month Throughout the Obama administration too, they were tear gassing people at that very same border crossing. There were guys trying to ram the crossing in vans three vans at the same time this is nothing new it's not new that we tear gas people at the border it's just not and I don't you know it's like it's so obvious what what mainstream media is doing It really is lies I mean actually it's not lying because this happened under Trumps regime as dictatorship, but it has been happening for years. Years and years. So its just disingenuous is the term that I'm looking for. Disingenuous? The news media you think? Just a tad

16:59 Well, I do have some clips to give a little background on the Honduras thing because I think that democracy now did a very good job of they brought in Dana Frank who just wrote a book about the coup. Now if you remember and it was during our show that this Manuel Zelaya who was elected president he was elected honcho of Honduras and we orchestrated a coup where we picked him up at night in his bedroom in his underwear at gunpoint, put him on a plane flew him to Costa Rica and dropped him off in the middle of the tarmac.

17:36 half naked and then took off. Yeah, we had that whole thing called the wham bam. Here's a little reminder of this is the Honduras coup manuals by Dana Frank discusses this I wanted to go back to 2009 when there was a coup in Honduras and democratically elected leader at the Honduran president Manuel Zelaya spoke on Democracy Now about what happened They attacked my house at 5.30 in the morning, a group of at least 200 to 250 armed soldiers with hoods and bulletproof vests and rifles aimed their guns at me fired shots used machine guns kicked down the doors And just as I was in pajamas they put me on a plane and flew me to Costa Rica This all happened in less than 45 minutes. I do remember that it's a long time ago

18:33 And so this is, they've never actually been true. Dana Frank has done some research as a professor at UC Santa Cruz and she's come out with the book about this and she...they say there's no real smoking gun to prove that it was Hillary who was the State Department head at that time who orchestrated this or it was a CIA Hillary thing which is part of the reason I think CIA and Hillary still hanging in there. All these people are worried sick about Trump, and this whole Honduran caravan which CNN says doesn't even exist if you remember... There's no such thing it's a hoax! Yes is all because of the policies that were instituted by Hillary and Obama. And let's play this clip on Honduras coup, Hillary responsible when you interviewed Hillary Clinton when she was running for president, when you were working at The Daily News, you asked her about the coup? She was not pleased to ask her about her support, the US support for the coup when she was secretary of state. So it went from

19:34 the Democrats right through to President Trump. And if you can talk about the extent of this support and why you see that linked to what we're seeing with the migrants today, as you say these are refugees from U.S. policy? Well, we don't have a smoking gun that shows the U.S. backed the coup from before it happened— Oh! —but all the evidence is very clear that the U.S. wanted the coup to stabilize after it took place, that the U.S. recognized the bogus election of November 2019 that brought Porfirio Lobo to power and that the U.S. has continued to recognize the ongoing coup regime, especially that of Juan Orlando Hernández, although he has come in—he stole probably

20:15 He took—stole an election we don't really know in 2013. He very clearly ran for president last year, in violation of the Constitution, which bans reelection. And then he stole the election in November last year— Against Salvador Nasrallah? Yeah. You know, against a united opposition, which very clearly won. So it's not just a question of the U.S. supporting the coup itself. I mean, clearly Hillary Clinton was responsible for that. But don't forget Obama was her boss, and he's responsible too. It's like the gangland is running the place, so all the small businesses are closing down because they ought to play tribute to the local boss and all this sort of thing. And it has become a nightmare and that is one of the reasons that they're marching on the US to come into the country because we're probably the ones who set this whole thing in motion. But why don't they just... Hold on a sec!

21:31 So that's really what the media should be reporting because that makes sense to say, hey we did all this and That's why they're all pissed off in there And it's also crazy and they're running away from this dangerous place and they want asylum apparently some of them do but They can't report on it Because then they'd have to say that it was Hillary and Obama who put that in place. Is that the issue? Hello the current president's brother is arrested in Miami for drug trafficking? Well, we've known for a long time—two years now that Juan Orlando's brother Tony was involved in drug trafficking. He was, in fact, named in U.S. federal court two year ago. And we know that there are drug traffickers from top to bottom in the Honduran government. So, for Hondurans this is no surprise. What's important is that he actually

22:22 arrested and is going to be presumably brought to justice. What this signals, though, is what people call an outsourcing of the criminal justice system. Why was he not brought to justice in Honduras? It shows that there's a complete breakdown of the Honduran criminal justice system that this man wasn't brought to justice a long time ago in Honduras. Okay. A couple of things, she also mentions that Hillary put something in her Why I Lost book. In her hardcover edition she took it out for the paperback version and it had to do with Honduras and a Cavalier comment that she made about putting the original guy who was elected back into office She said well...it went something like this

23:08 You know, what difference does it make? That's pretty much what it said. She pulled that out of the paperback version because she got some flack for it but now there is this only last clip. This is where Dana Frank makes the argument that this was set up by Obama and Hillary And that now all the troubles in that part of the world are really stems from that, but it was carried forward and it went right into the Trump administration. They really haven't done too much about although they did arrest the brother so there may be doing something about it but then another name kind of crops up in her exposition of who how you can track this whole thing through

23:54 and drag it right through the Trump administration, and landed on one guy who happens to be a coincidental player in the Trump administration. See if you can figure out who this is when she says his name. The US has given this post-coup regime green light after green light after green light so its not just Obama What's his name? Lewis Day? Was that was that a name at the beginning No. Okay, I couldn't hear it. The US gave us the US post-coup regime. Green light after green light after green light so it's not just and it's not just Obama It's not just Hillary Clinton. It's also John Kerry and now Donald Trump and his secretaries of state Tillerson Pompeo John Bolton at the National Security Council Mark Senator Marco Rubio who is reportedly the person advising Pompeo on U.S policy in Honduras right now

24:47 This is an ongoing policy. And the Honduras will be very quick to tell you that Juan Orlando's regime continues because of U.S. support, not just the police and military aid which is pouring in but this legitimation of the regime. If you want to see the continuities, a key figure here is General John Kelly who was head of United States Southern Command out of Miami before he was chief of staff for Trump. And he very much has supported Juan Orlando Hernandez, he called him a magnificent guy and a good friend and here's how we can see this continuity from one regime to the next. Huh you think that hmm interesting

25:30 Yeah, nobody's talking. I mean, we're glad that they brought this woman on. Democracy Now does this once in a while they bring on somebody who wrote a book so it's very well researched and there is a lot of good documentation in there she has got a few things to tell us nobody else will cover it What I'm not sure about is that the caravan consists of a lot of Hondurans I mean that has been so poorly covered. They're not going to cover anything in fact, here's an MSNBC report where there is some... Yes! I have this report. The Mostly Men? Yes it's very good And they listen to the president who says it's not women and children its stone cold criminals So my first question

26:14 You're in that tent camp. Besides that family, give us the profile of who is there mostly and- So they got the reporter on the ground he's in the camp, he's looking around What are they looking for? Because it seems as though to your point They don't actually have the necessary information so they know how to cross the border There could be people yesterday who were running because they thought it was their only chance Right And it's very difficult because this has become such a polarizing issue. If we kind of take a walk, you'll be able to see for yourself again this is the inner sanctum of the shelter so You're going to see a lot of families here A lot of women and children But the truth is that majority of people that are part of this caravan especially outside if we can make our way all the way over there We will show you The majority of them are men So people on one side point and say

27:06 There are women and children here, and that is true. And then there are others who point and say these are men that they're trying to cross the border. That's true too. From what we've seen the majority are actually men. Some of these men have not articulated that need for asylum instead. They have talked about you know, going to the United States for a better life and to find work. But if we come this way here... We're just gonna leave- This is where there's a food bank that set up and you've got a long line of people waiting in line. I mean, I cut it off after this. You want to go for another 42 seconds? Was something else in there? I was just talking about there are 500 men lined up.

28:01 Yeah, anyway the point was is that the MSNBC girl who is like all bent out of shape about Stephanie rule Stephanie really orange man badness. She's freaking out all the time well So, just to step back for a second. There's no evidence these are all Hondurans it could be just a whole bunch of Mexicans who were hanging out getting ready to go and there has been no reporting on that you know the iconic photo now with the mother with two kids in diapers who are being tear gassed you know this now alternate shots from all...you can see that they were staged camera guys everywhere but the thing that really gets me

28:42 And we're talking about illegal immigrants. I've been through the system many times, three actually have helped people and there's a way to do it and you can do it but its not cheap. I think that is a problem because it will cost you probably between $3-5k dollars but thats what people pay to the coyotes to get in illegally so okay But it's construed in the media as you just hate other people. You just hate brown people, you don't want people to come in and be an immigrant for the American dream Which is bullcrap because if you come in legally, we want you to come in. We want you to have the American dream I still think immigration is about that You can come in and look at... It used to be.. You'd look at Donald Trump and say I beat that guy one day You can't do that anymore That's orange man bad But Geraldo who was...I think he's clearly left-leaning although he's on Fox And he's often a voice of reason which is appreciated but he shows the true thinking

29:47 About immigration he's not thinking about the American dream now He's coming unglued and then the real truth slips out I Refuse to deal with this as a media issue because it's far too important with all due respect Jesse This is something that goes to the very quick This goes to my soul. Fulfilling my role as the designated piñata on Fox News, I want to say- That's racist! I am ashamed this tear gas choked me We treat these people these economic refugees is it there zombies from The Walking Dead? I think we arrested 42 people eight of them were women with children

30:33 We have to deal with this problem humanely and with compassion. These are not invaders, stop using these military analogies! This is absolutely painful to watch. We are a nation of immigrants, these desperate people they walked 2,000 miles why? Because they want to rape your daughter or steal your lunch? No, because they want a job. They wanna fill the millions of unfilled jobs we have in the agricultural sector! They wanna wash dishes in the restaurants, they wanna deliver the pizzas... For goodness sake I can't- We suspend our humanity when it comes to this issue and I fear that is because they look different than us

31:16 There it is, there's Geraldo. He says these people they come for the American dream to wash your dishes! To clean your toilets! To pick your fruit! Fuck you Geraldo fuck you I'm sorry The woman from The View who was called out said the same thing Who's gonna wash our toilets? Unbelievable It was unbelievable. I'll give you, okay...I'm gonna give you- I would have given you a clip of the day if whoever recorded that for you had done a better job of maybe using some gear than me. I actually tried to filter it. It was so impossible to filter it. I did everything I could and just that was the best I could get but I worked on it. It was not just sent to me and unprocessed

32:02 But anyway, that's hate speech right there. Yeah we want these economic migrants to come in illegally to wash my floor, wash my dishes clean my toilet... That's not how I think but that's how Geraldo thinks and why is this so accepted? It was beyond me it wasn't accepted on the view when that woman said it! Did someone call her out on it? They all called her out on it. Good, good! It's just unconscionable and she apologized yeah well I'm sick of this Geraldo saying that stuff it's illegal illegal immigration not the same as legal migration to come here for the American dream and we can you know on the books we could do about a hundred thousand years I think that is the legal limit currently which you know that's the legal immigration it's not a lot when you think about

33:03 Well, we've got a couple things here. We've got Manafort I want to play these clips because i just want to show you the difference in the way people cover stuff Okay Just little backgrounder on this and it's in the show notes. I'm not gonna read it But it was this is actually have a background. I do have a background er on Manafort On mana fort yeah, I actually put under ministry of truthiness as a Yeah, I'll just a little background and then we'll talk about it because the Guardian published something and this report is from right after it was published but The Guardian has since changed many pieces of this article. You know those... It was bogus! But I love these little systems that will track a web page and they'll show it to you in the colors where things change And they completely took it away from This Happened to

34:00 He wanted to do this, you know a source said it could have happened kind of thing and I think the Guardian should Should get in trouble for what they did. The backdrop to this new report coming out from the Guardian just this morning That says Paul Manafort met with Julian Assange a claim that wikiLeaks about four minutes ago tweeted out and disputed can you explain what the significance of this would be again if accurate the guardian is hinging this i think on one well-placed or star sighting uh... wall and in my understanding how a from one of reporters it's been involved with cardigan who i happen to know is that this is based on uh... honest unsourceful sources as well as uh... some documents have they've been able to review

34:42 You know, Hallie the significance of this. The Guardian report says that Paul Manafort visited the Ecuadorian embassy in Julian Assange in March of 2016 This was around the time as you and I both know well with you being on the campaign trail And us talking about this that Paul Manafort was joining the Trump campaign or about to join the Trump campaign We need a little bit more detail on those dates so we can be specific about it it. In addition, the Guardian report says that Paul Manafort had other trips to the Ecuadorian embassy in London and that those trips started around I believe 2013 if i remember the report correctly and why specifically that embassy which is of course where Julian Assange lives so yeah I think this is a report that bears more follow-up at this point. And just explain some of the timeline here you're correct Tom this apparently did begin in 2013 sources have said Manafort according to The Guardian went to see Assange as recently

35:34 Spring of 2016, according to one of their sources it was in March of 2016. As you know obviously Paul Manafort joined the campaign shortly thereafter that the Trump campaign that is Months later, WikiLeaks released those emails. We should note that Paul Manafort's lawyers did not comment at least to The Guardian Tom. And I did just speak to Hallie just to that point. I did just speak to Jason Maloney, Paul Manafort spokesperson and at this point they are not putting out an on-the-record response Although that may change later today and they may be able to provide us with something that we can report. So I want to say that we have reached out to Paul Manafort's representatives about this story as well. So the way I understand what went down here is Manafort was asked if he had met with Julian Assange, he said no

36:21 then immediately you're lying to us because and now whether the Guardian came first or Mueller gave it to the Guardian however, the Guardian got this information turns out. It was really incorrect. Yeah News from The Guardian yeah, let's play two clips I want to play which would go over the same exact thing again but differently yes And let's start with a Manafort update with with Bass Assange info CBS something White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders dismissed today. I'm not aware of any conversations for anyone's pardon adding to Manafort troubles the British newspaper The Guardian reported today Manafort held secret meetings with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange inside the Ecuadorian embassy in London including one in 2016 just months before WikiLeaks released a trove of stolen Democratic emails

37:16 Manafort called the story totally false and deliberately libelous. Assange also threatened legal action in September, the former Trump campaign chairman agreed to cooperate with the special counsel in exchange for other charges against him being dismissed It was Mueller's biggest victory to date because Manafort could provide valuable information about any cooperation between the Trump campaign and Russia In a court filing last night, prosecutors did not reveal what Manafort lied about but promised to eventually issue a report detailing Manafort's crimes and lies. His lawyer says he has met with the special counsels office several times and provided truthful information

37:56 Former Whitewater investigator Solomon Weisenberg says Manafort may be playing the long game. It's a good hypothesis that he never intended to cooperate, he is angling for a pardon at some point in time. Any collusion? And then the New York Post of all fine publications printed an interview with Trump where they asked him would you pardon, Manafort and he said well it hasn't come up but why would I wouldn't not gonna rule it out not gonna take it off the table. Ah! Long game! Inclusion Inca hoots oh yeah yeah orange man bad. Well anyway the point is that they CBS if you listen to that carefully was uh they kind of took the side of The Guardian seems to me. Of course

38:43 I thought it was a very poorly done story. They did no research, they never pulled back and said the Guardian itself... Oh it's The Guardian John! No, It's The Guardian you can always- It's like the New York Times of England Yes kind of well then yeah Meddling in our affairs I might point out. The Brits are meddling in our affairs over here Again? So here listen to Better Assange Manafort Story says Better Assange Manafort Story Democracy Now oh I'm sorry hold on I had a different one queued up Lawyers for Julian Assange said the WikiLeaks founder will sue The Guardian newspaper for libel after it reported Tuesday that Paul Manafort held secret talks with Assange inside the Ecuadorian embassy in London on three occasions. The alleged meetings occurred, the Guardian alleged, in 2013-2015 and March of 2016—around the time Manafort joined Donald Trump's presidential campaign.

39:39 Lead author Luke Harding cited a, quote, well-placed source as the basis of the report. In a statement, Manafort called the report totally false and deliberately libelous. WikiLeaks said in a tweet, quote, WikiLeaks is willing to bet The Guardian $1 million on its editor's head that Manafort never met Assange." You know actually I want to read some of these differences from New Sniffer from this Guardian article. So, this is the original article and then the change came about one hour after that. First of all, the headline Manafort held secret talks with Assange in Ecuadorian embassy an hour later Manafort held secret talks with Assange in Ecuadorian Embassy sources say That's right off the bat

40:26 They're backing off fast. They're backpedaling as fast as they can but I should mention that the writer, the main writer who she mentioned and I guess there's some other writer involved are notorious for doing this creating these fake stories on behalf of MI6 or someone Oh well that makes sense here It is unclear why Manafort wanted to see Assange and what was discussed An hour later it is uncleared Why Manafort would have wanted to see Assange And What Was Discussed Original, but the last meeting is likely to come under scrutiny. Change... But the last apparent meeting is likely to come under scrutiny! And then they added a paragraph in his series of tweets WikiLeaks said Assange and Manafort had not met. Assange described the story as a hoax and then further According to two sources Manafort returned to the embassy in 2015 The change according to THE sources Manafort returned to the embassy in 2015

41:22 Next change. Why Manafart... Manafart? He's now known as Manafart! Why Manafart sought out Assange in 2013 is unclear The change, why Manafart might have sought out Assange in 2013 is unclear So there you have it Total bullcrap It's really just boo Yeah, it never happened. And this is something that you could report on I mean this is reportable This new sniffer's great now they're changing their story to the same thing The National Enquirer does they're walking back the story as fast as they can and that would be the technical Description yes there they are so that was a scam and Just staying on this whole any collusion vibe

42:17 CNN claims to have answers to two of the questions that Trump gave in writing to the Mueller team. How they got it? Who knows. And we are getting the first insight into how the president responded to Robert Mueller's written questions, which until now has been a big unknown so sources familiar with this matter tell CNN two things number one the President told the special counsel that Roger Notice notice what's going on here Did I not hear that say that she has these answers and then goes into according to sources

42:54 Let's play that again. And we are getting the first insight into how the president responded to Robert Mueller's written questions, which until now has been a big unknown So sources familiar with this matter tell CNN two things number one The president told the special counsel that Roger Stone did not tell him about wiki leaks and number two That the president was also not told about the 2016 Trump Tower meeting between his son one

43:34 Two points here, WikiLeaks and the Trump Tower meeting. They are really key as far as we know to Robert Mueller's central mission when he started this investigation which is was there any collusion between team and the Russians? And if so how high up does it go as well yeah How is this going higher? How high up doesn't go I don't know what they mean, but it's interesting higher than Trump But it's interesting that she just made very clear that this is according to sources So so she hasn't seen this according to sources now listen what she does next and if so how high up doesn't go as well Yeah How is this different? What we know he said here

44:18 compared to what he said publicly. We're told, Brianna that with the president said in these written answers is similar matches actually what he has said in public but of course there's a big difference these written answers would be subject to criminal charges if false That's why it is our understanding that the president made clear his answers were the best of his recollection Which is standard for lawyers as a way to shield their client. No, he's lying Make sure that they're not in any legal trouble. I must be lying That's why you do that to make sure you're not in any legal trouble. It's the same thing

44:59 Dana Batchelor's looking better these days, actually. I'm not quite sure what she's done. I think they probably...I think she had her programming changed so when she reconstitutes herself as a human form, her eyeballs are little smaller. Which brings me to my bot story. Let me see. Actually no, I'll do that later it's part of OTG and it's too lengthy. So I got another couple comparison stories to do. I have the Russia-Ukraine dust up. Yes, I actually have heard it on... Not going to mainstream media and go out and do the PBS compared to Democracy Now! Knowing PBS I don't think cares that much about this situation but Democracy Now is a big you know

45:47 pro for some reason, pro Ukraine and pro you know hate Russia. Well because it's all anti-Russia and modern socialist... And we have huge oil interest in Ukraine all the elites do John Kerry Joe Biden their sons have business there was it who put five billion in? Was that Chevron? I don't remember but let's play the Democracy Now! version first Russia is sending advanced surface-to-air missiles to the Crimean Peninsula amidst mounting tensions with Ukraine. The escalation comes after Russia's Navy captured three Ukrainian ships Sunday and arrested sailors near a narrow waterway separating Russia from Crimea, which Russia seized and illegally annexed in 2014. On Tuesday, Ukrainian President Vladimir Putin said that he would not allow Russian

46:38 She said annexed, annexed. Yeah which Russia seized and illegally... You stopped there hold on a second I want to point something out that especially with democracy now Russia never seized it they had a kind of a maybe a vote Oh no she said illegally Seized it. Yeah, they had a vote I want to mention something because i do have a couple reports from her on East Sahara and or Western Sahara sorry which is an independent country that they won't let become its own independent entity she makes a big stink about in the report when you listen to her and all these people will do that by dialogues from the left

47:17 is why don't they let them choose what country, what they want for the rulers? They go on and about that. But apparently the Crimeans couldn't can do that. And so now that's a bad thing you can't do that in here because of some relationship to Russia. Well it's because of the Sahara when you're trying to get out of the rule of Moroccans would do with Dennis another discussion I just want to point out this kind of nuttyness that you could keep hearing with this reports from these guys.

48:00 These Russian tanks were not withdrawn yet. They remained there at the Ukraine-Russia border, and that's why I don't want anyone to think that it is entertainment or a game The country is under the threat of full fledged war with the Russian Federation Now... Oh God you know? Full fledged war with Russians It's kind of what you walk away from is this a borderline war, is the message you come away from with the War and Peace Report for Democracy Now. So let's listen to something...this time instead of listening to the guy from Ukraine, let's hear the other side of this story from Putin and

48:41 Maybe there's an explanation that makes a little more sense from PBS. Russia's military announced today that it is sending more anti-aircraft missiles to occupied Crimea amid a new crisis with Ukraine Russian vessels seized three Ukrainian ships and 24 sailors in the Kerch Strait on Sunday claiming they illegally entered the area Today, President Vladimir Putin charged that Ukraine's president provoked the crisis to help his re-election chances. Now a small incident occurred and martial law was introduced in the country this is being done obviously in the run up to the presidential polls an absolutely obvious fact now this is a provocation for sure Also today the Kremlin said it still expects Mr. Putin to meet with President Trump at the G20 summit

49:32 Mr. Trump threatened yesterday to cancel that meeting over the Russian actions against Ukraine. Now, because of the martial law if you think about it you get everybody in a war statue... You know so it's not the word I'm looking for... stature getting everybody ready for war. This is what Bush used to do when he did get reelected, we had red alert you know the terrorists are gonna bomb us again and we gotta be on our toes because of red alert and then the election happened this was like a scam

50:08 that Bush pulled on the American public. Yes, and everyone called him out for it as well. And so he said there wasn't a scam and this is what's going on I think that's exactly what I think Putin's exactly right this guy there's an election coming up yeah this is the great way to go he said provoke an incident put martial law in place say that we're gonna be Raided any minute by all these tanks for me and vote for me and go for me Here's the here's the report from Ukraine radio into a radio Ukraine International As far as I can tell it is not your typical USA ID outfit. It is not but funded by the State Department Although the Ukrainian government did cut its funding significantly A year or two back so here's what they have to say

50:53 The 2003 treaty between Russia and Ukraine designates the Kurds Strait and the Sea of Azov as shared territorial waters, but Moscow has been asserting greater control over the area since its annexation of the Crimean Peninsula in 2014. Particularly since May this year when it opened a new 19 kilometer bridge linking the peninsula to Russian territory to the east of the Kurd Strait." So what I heard is that They're that one of these ships, and I don't know if it's true or not It's Russian propaganda no doubt the one of these ships was ready to blow up the bridge And that and that's what they bless you. That's what this was maybe about but I like your explanation far better It makes nothing but sense be afraid vote for me

51:39 Yeah, be afraid vote for me. I like the bridge concept but still sounds bogus because that would cause a problem. That bridge is like a big deal. It's very big deal yeah just been recently opened so... But they've made no... That'd be an act of war they would get into war. They made know and also there's a lot going on we got the Turk stream you know although that's not it's in the Black Sea but this is just a lot of activity happening there right now I'm sorry, but I still like your thesis the best. That's the one that makes sense. When is the election exactly? I think it's next month. It's coming up! Then we should do another scare in about 10 days and see if we can get something going. So what I was listening to is my last Democracy Now clip because they lead the news with global warming stuff because that gives Amy the opportunity to go to all these global warming conferences. She could go to Paris

52:40 Well, this time she's going to Poland. Next month in Poland apparently. It's the Paris of Eastern Europe. Yeah, Krakow is probably a good place to visit. But I only wanted to clip the... because I was listening one of their YouTube guys some Nobel laureate going on and he's saying that the whole thing is kind of bogus for all kinds of very particular reasons and never mentioned they computer simulation problem that they have But he did say the one thing which was, how come every time there's gonna be something like global warming everything is going to be bad? Nothing good is ever gonna... Why do we... Isn't there any possibility that something good could happen every... If there's a change of anything. Is it...Is there no chance that anything good could come of it and so I would... That was in the back of my mind as I clipped this

53:35 the global warming report, which only talks about all the horrible things that are going to happen. To see a global rise of 3.2 degrees Celsius or nearly 6 degrees Fahrenheit by the end of the century such arise would see devastating droughts floods and extreme weather with increased sea level crop failures mass migration and global conflict The U.N.'s calling for new investments in renewable energy and for governments to replace subsidies on fossil fuels with taxes to discourage their use, the stark warning came ahead of the UN climate talk set for Katowice Poland next month. And I'll be there reporting live! I'm Amy Goodman. The War and Peace Report. She did make that clear that she's going to be there. Oh yes

54:17 So we're gonna have famine and drought, by the way droughts and flooding is a very interesting thing to happen at the same time. Droughts and flooding and famine and war? Unbelievable! We're all going to die! Nobody ever thinks that maybe Greenland will melt down and we're gonna end up with growing seasons up there or maybe they'll find gold who knows? Well, Al Gore is on the warpath for this and I'm sure this is perfectly timed with the Polish adventure. December 3rd and 4th or third through the fourth he will be coming to you with 24 hours of reality. The climate crisis signs are all around us mistakes are high a healthy future hangs in the balance

55:03 Tune in December 3rd and 4th as former Vice President Al Gore is joined by world leaders, climate and health experts and entertainers in an examination of how the climate crisis threatens our health and communities. And what we can do to solve this global challenge It's our responsibility to protect our body Our planet Our future 24 hours of reality When we protect our planet We protect ourselves Yeah, baby 24 and you know the entertainment is going to be the Goo Goo Dolls. Whoo I mean you gotta tell what this is Is this event in New York? Is it some Madison Square Garden special? No, it's TV event that's gonna be on cable It's a video event only as far as I know online he did this a couple years ago He does this from time maybe was even last year

55:50 He does this 24 hours of reality and gets everyone together, and they all talk about it. And you know then the Goo Goo Dolls will perform. Rihanna wasn't available apparently so oh should just be and I love the title 24 Hours Of Reality Let's see what the BBC says about all this in Orange Man Bad. He's in administration all the time. Why? Constantly and it's, this is a president who comes to office with some very firmly held views This is Reid I think his name is from The Hill About immigration about climate change and about the way things used to be in America making America great again And the climate change report Is a part of Isn't that interesting so It's because he's old obviously

56:43 old-fashioned, you know. So he wants his own white drinking fountain and just wants to keep things the way they are! It was good before climate change I'm just going to go no no it's not happening... ...about immigration about climate change and about the way things used to be in America making America great again and the Climate Change Report is part of that this is something that There is scientific consensus on there's no serious scientific opposition to the notion that climate change is... What? There is no serious opposition. Ha ha ha! Nope! ...serious scientific opposition to the notion that climate change is real and getting worse and caused by humans, but the president is not willing to bend his preconceived notions on that.

57:34 Crazy the way they gloss over that 30,000 scientists are wrote who signed that letter. Yeah enough fantastic I wonder or the people that like myself would keep complaining that hey this is based on computer simulations which are notoriously useless Here's a question so let's just take Let's take Berkeley California had we implemented everything necessary in 2000 I put in the show notes again that report from 2000 and In fact, I will read it to you from Reuters. United Nations a senior United Nations environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000 this is actually from 89 I'm sorry

58:23 Yeah, the 89 report. Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of eco refugees threatening political chaos said Noel Brown director of the New York office of the UN Environment Programme U N E P he said governments have a 10 year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control so they were predicting disaster by 2000 yes So what would happen if we had implemented everything I mean how much Cooler would it be would it be two degrees to cooler right now? I don't know. It's cold out today Hey, man weather is not climate bro meanwhile France my new Macron He's taking this to heart and here's the strategy for France as a part of their strategy They are going to close 14 nuclear reactors by 2035 yeah Is he cuckoo

59:19 Yeah, this is nuts. I mean that's going to kill that country It's one of the greatest systems in the world for creating energy has been flawless it hasn't produced a bunch of bad stuff It's, it's they're all standardized. So all the reactors are the same so they don't cost that much to put up or staffed there not you know, the problem that we have with our general electric and some of these Westinghouse some of these reactors we've they're all custom made You need just everyone has to be trained on different reactors as a disaster Yeah Although they're more efficient or they fancy, or they do more... They develop more power. Who knows? But the French system has been absolutely the best and most reliable in the world and it's clean energy. So why are they doing this? To help the new green deal into- I think France is 80% nuke electricity that just pays for everything.

1:00:20 Can't get that from wind. But, but and well they at least may have natural gas you know the Netherlands is really on track to... Natural gas isn't nearly as clean as nuke! No I know but so they're not even gonna do that they're going to do wind and solar And man there gonna be it's gonna be tough to read at night in France without electricity I also don't really think that he's gonna go through with that. It just doesn't seem right. Well, our talk is cheap Yeah exactly and with that talk i'd like to thank you for your courage to say in the morning to You! The man who put the sea in climate change on Sea-

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1:08:38 we would all be bots, non-player characters in the system. The idea that if a simulation gets to really high level the artificial characters themselves would not be able to... He watches a lot of Star Trek. Would not be able tell they are artificial is impossible. We were running into characters logged in from some outside simulated universe through Star Trek Next Generation episode that deals with similar idea when one of the characters in the holodeck realizes he's in a simulation and tricks the crew with his own hack and tries to take over this shit! No No. I can tell you real quick, I believe the simulation is possibly real but the simulation runs for each of us so you are actually yes right now in my simulation your a bot of you and that bot of you does the same thing all the time but you have a different bot from Mimi in her simulation

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1:10:45 I got a lot of social justice warrior stuff for some not clips necessarily, but just some you want to go through a couple stories Okay white liberals according to research from Yale present themselves as less competent in interactions with African Americans they use simpler language and I bet. And you know, this is one of those reports that's like it's actually the Yale School of Management and they have not published this study yet but they did do and it's going to be in The Journal of Personality and Social Psychology While many previous studies have examined how people who hold racial bias have in multi-racial settings, few have studied how whites who are more well intentioned interact with people of other races. There's less work that explores how well intentioned whites try to get along with racial minorities but now they have this and it turns out for right wing let's just call them Republicans although there is less

1:11:43 data of them speaking to African Americans, which is funny by itself. There seems to be no difference in how they address a group that is mainly made up of African-Americans but white liberals as the study proclaims tend to downplay their own verbal competence and exchanges with racial minorities compared to other white Americans act in such exchanges Ruh-roh. I believe it! So in other words, they're talking to him like they're kids? To a degree, yeah. Simplifying the language. Yeah, because you know they may not understand... That's why hey, you're dumb so maybe I'm a superior white liberal so I'm gonna talk to you like you're a dummy that really actually think you are. Yes. That's great. From Yale. Yeah from Yale. So I can actually talk with a bit of this. In Darien Connecticut?

1:12:44 Schools are now banning, I didn't know this was a thing. Parents in the lunchrooms school lunchrooms. I did not know this but it's see and apparently these days lots of parents go to see their kids during lunch break at the school and hang out with them Yeah, the helicopter parents. What? Yes! I would be mortified when i was a kid if my parents showed up at the school lunchroom. Well interestingly... That'd probably get beat up in good old days. Now it's the parents who are upset They're really upset that they can't... Oh yeah. Terry Steadman, a parent told the board she was shocked and driven to tears by the news! To just ban parents from the lunchroom which is effectively what you're doing with this email I don't think it's right. I don't think it's in the spirit of a collaborative environment

1:13:42 This is... I didn't know it was a thing. It feels like- I never heard of such a thing, this is all news to me! It feels like a punch in the gut parent Jessica Zhu whose oldest child is in the first grade said an interview. I chose the town for the schools. I'm so frustrated that schools don't want me there! They don't? No. The kids don't either lady. That's well maybe these kids maybe they love it who I don't know everything's different. I don't have kids at that age Let's keep going. Florida police chief gets three years for plot to frame black people for crimes

1:14:19 And the reason I brought this story is you hear the story and you think, wow that's so racist. Of course the police chief is black that makes it a kind of weird story. That makes it funny! That's how the difference between humor and racism comes about. Yes yes Australians on all official government forms they finally figured it out They want to be as inclusive as possible and Australians now will be able to choose from multiple gender labels under a new proposal for all of their governmental paperwork I should mention 33 different gender labels Wow, first of all magic number but wow 33. I always thought was 16 but 33 makes more sense in the scheme of things

1:15:12 And then finally, from the United Kingdom of Gitmo Nation East... The BFI, the British Film Institute who fund a lot of theatrical work. Movies but I think also they probably fund like The Downton Abbey and that kind of stuff They will withhold funding for any movie That tries to make villains scary with scarred faces No longer can villains have scarred faces because people with scarred faces are hurt by this Brother, what about a missing nose? Is that okay? Oh no. No if you look at all the you know there's if you just think about the famous villains Actually I'm gonna bring up this article

1:16:04 Well, of course Blofeld James Bond's arch enemy Big Scar. We have Freddy Krueger scarred we have well Star Wars would even have scarred villains and of course we had the villain in In The Lion King whose name was actually Scar that also should be foreboding I guess it's a little overboard people just a little yeah Before social media we didn't have all these problems No, well we did. We probably had him but we didn't know oh yeah Well, but if it's not discussed in a broad manner on you know these with the network effect no one cares otherwise Yeah, alright well I get the story of the day I think okay cuz he's got everyone all bent out of shape But it wasn't played by them. I'm stunned this wasn't played by the mainstream

1:16:59 This is Kushner to get Mexico's highest honor. Mexico will bestow Mexico's highest honor for foreigners on Jared Kushner, President Trump son-in-law and senior adviser when Kushner arrives for the G20 talks in Argentina. The move drew scorn from prominent Mexicans including actor Gael Garcia Bernal who called the decision to award the Aztec eagle tremendously shameful The previous winners include Nelson Mandela and the Nobel Prize winning novelist, Gabriel Garcia Marquez. All right I just want to...I was irked by this story because of the way you know it's just one of these bullcrap things you get in any awards for being who you are for some reason i don't know why they're giving it to him but It's not like a bunch of politicians or Nobel prize winners that only people that get it I'm going to read some of the people who did well he's got this just so you know he's an advisor

1:17:55 Just so you know. That's what she said, she said he is an advisner. I'm sorry I didn't catch that. Yes that's what she said She said he is an advisner. I think she meant advise nerd. She doesn't know how to pronounce things. Melinda Gates? Okay. Why is she getting it? What does she do? Bill didn't get it, I don't see Bill Gates' name on the list For sleeping with Bill Gates I think you deserve a Presidential Medal of Honor. Adam at curry.com Rick Bayless, who's that? Rick Bayless is a TV cook That specializes in cooking Mexican cuisine I can't believe MSNBC should run with this story you can do this whole thing also previously awarded this high esteemed This steam award the TV chef they could make Jeff they could make a great story out of this Here's one that you'll like

1:18:52 Bono. You mean bonno? Why do I keep mispronouncing bono? I like it, bono. He got one. Meanwhile all the presidents pretty much got one. Walt Disney got one in 1943 various politicians. It seems more like an entertainment prize than it does anything I don't know there's some people I never heard of Eisenhower got one Raphael Trujillo which is a nasty dictator got one yeah it's just uh well we all the kings and queens of the Netherlands are really loaded up that Queen Beatrix got one King William Alexander got one Maxima got one Wow, The queen too? Yeah they loaded up with the Netherlands

1:19:41 Anyway, I could go on with these people. King Olaf of Norway got one? Anyway it's just... Maybe we can get one. Who knows why. Let's find out what the criteria is maybe we can get ourselves to. So I think it's just…I don't know if there is any criteria. It's let me read from the thing. It just says the Order of the Aztec Eagle is the largest Mexican order awarded to foreigners in the country. It was created in 1933 as a reward to the services given to Mexico or humankind by foreigners. It corresponds to similar distinctions given to Mexican citizens, such as the Condecoración Miguel Hidalgo or this other one is given by the office of the foreign minister on the instructions of a council established for the purpose headed by the president

1:20:35 So in other words, it's like the awards you give away when your magazine top 10. You have a lunch... Well we're the best podcast in the universe and we could have a lunch? We could have a lunch and then pick and just start giving these awards out but we already given them, you know, we had The Knighthood thing which is probably more prestigious And we'll make that guy a knight on the spot I don't know about that. All right, okay? There's something that we need to play a clip of We've talked about Jeffrey Epstein a lot on the show And he has an island and it's known that there's a lot of you know Island possibly Possibly underage girls there, and he has this private plane What's it called

1:21:18 Pedo Island. Oh, Pedo Island! Well... His airplane is dubbed the Lolita Express And here's the thing with the Lolita Express, Jeffrey Epstein has had Bill Clinton on that Lolita Express a lot. There are flight logs even without President Clinton's Secret Service detail Donald Trump has also been on the Lolita Express to Peddo Island so has Alan Dershowitz who has also been on the Lolita Express But in 2008, this is a hedge fund guy and he lives in Palm Beach Florida. He basically got off with the slap on the wrist for being a sex offender…

1:22:06 I have not looked into the case and how that slap on the wrist kind of took place, but now many of these girls who at the time were 14-15 years old are speaking out. And The Miami Herald has done a nice expose—this is a piece from a video they published along with it The whole video is 12 minutes. I got a minute and a half for you, i think you'll like it. On June 30th 2008 Jeffrey Epstein, a Palm Beach multi-millionaire hedge fund manager received what might have been the most lenient plea deal for a serial sex offender in US history. The Miami Herald identified over 60 of his victims just young middle and high school girls at the time of the abuse

1:22:48 More than a decade later, several of them are talking for the first time about how they were molested by Epstein and believe they were betrayed by the very prosecutors who are supposed to hold Epstein accountable. One child would be lured over, would be paid substantial sums of money. Would be offered the further inducement of being paid a bounty for anybody else that she was able to bring to Epstein A network developed where many young girls in the same kinds of circumstance wound up being victimized By the time I was 16, I brought him up to 75 girls. All the ages of 14-15-16 people going from 8th grade to 9th grade at just school parties is where I would recruit them from. All Jeffrey cared about was go find me more girls His appetite was insatiable he couldn't stop

1:23:43 He wanted new, fresh young faces every single day. The sheer volume of girls, the frequency sometimes several or many in the same day...the age of the girls In some cases there were victims that didn't know each other had never met each other but they had a basically the same story I remember there was a staircase And it was like, kind of like a spiral almost. She brings us up the stairs and it was like spiral stairs He walked into his bedroom around his bed to almost like a very little hall and then there was another door and that's where everything would happen in this bathroom he would have a dresser and it was filled with like the first drawer is lotion then like the third drawer down was sex toys Yeah!

1:24:35 Really? I mean hundreds of girls, hundreds. They have lists of hundreds of girls if you read the story these were these were girls who are mainly they got 200 bucks but these girls where their parents we're in trailer park they live in trailer parks that carry their parents run drugs there was some of them are just homeless they would take an advantage of by this guy in a most despicable way. There's no doubt about that this guy was amazing Yeah, you have to say 75 or 100s. I mean what is the point? I'm asking, what do you think his point is? And what's his point? Is he bored or is easily bored. He can't screw the same girl twice. It doesn't make any sense to a normal person. No! But clearly he's ill and needs to be locked up in an institution and given one of those fancy lobotomies we do these days with the ultrasound. Locked up...or hedge fund manager. I don't know. Same thing.

1:25:36 No, I find it very disturbing and how did this happen that he just kind of skipped off with no jail time or anything? It's the same thing as the pedophile rings that you're always moaning about in Europe. That apparently go right up into the judicial. Yeah and you'll be pleased to know that his former detective who just published a book called The Lost Boys of Bird Island, A Shocking Exposé from Within the Heart of the NP Government. What does NP stand for? Where the hell was this? Hmm... So anyway he was uh... Here's the headline. Published his book exposing high-level government pedophile ring shot in the head days later. I hate it when that happens. Suicide. Yeah

1:26:30 Let me see, just what... What is BERT? I want to see what government was this. No, I think control room would help me out. I can't see it now. NP? NP yeah! I have no idea. Hmmmm Well let's do a little... Ah, it says South Africa Wow! Yeah The book details the corruption within the last apartheid government of South Africa and implicated officials all the way to the top. How high does it go? Including Defense Minister Magnus Malan and the Minister of Environmental Affairs John Wiley Before his death, the author, Minni announced that he was approached by many more people with even more damning evidence which he planned to reveal in a sequel of the book however... He died Maybe he should have just shut up about the sequel

1:27:27 Well, that's what happening in that first book. Let's kill this guy yeah. Yeah, oh yeah That's what's happening to it will not exactly the same but This Jerome Corsi guy who is now being hassled by? the the Mueller team Oh is that Stones buddy? Yeah, well of course he's been around. I've seen him on Alex Jones in the past although not recently i haven't really been watching but he'd do Coast to Coast and he was a writer. He's 72, he's little older and uh...and he's writing-I think it just published the book about The Deep State It's like okay let's get that guy

1:28:07 Because Mueller is all over that. Maybe one day it'll all come out and we'll really know what Mueller's role was going back to being hired, to...was it just right before 9-11? Then Obama comes in and oh well you know we need you to stay for an extra two years yeah but there's a 10 year term limit uh we'll figure that out we'll just scrub something over here make that work he's so tied into everything and everybody maybe No, the whole thing is corrupt. Yeah, it's corruption lurks yes So I'm surprised that I get that we're even talking What? Ask me yeah why what do you see why do I say such as why do you say this John because my browser all my if I try to Do anything and go on Google to look up something which I've been trying to do here You got frozen or being any of them and I get now is now you got no internet connection

1:29:10 Reboot is what you always tell me. Yeah, well that's what I would do. Reboot! Reboot! How can I have no internet connection if i'm talking to you? Well it's clearly something with your browser which... oh is it are using Brave? No. Hmm. I use Brave on the other machine. Here hold on let me help Is it working? No. I'm gonna try Microsoft, uh... Yeah you try that and meanwhile iIm going to give you an update the latest on the e-scooters And I do want to reiterate I am very much for the e scooter revolution Have you seen a new balancing one they're pretty cool no It doesn't fall over Right doesn't fall over. Hmm. It's got big giant tires

1:29:59 No, I haven't seen that one. It's like a Segway only front and back wheels. No, I have not seen that looks pretty cool. Yeah well it uh...it's all cool as long as people drive in not on the sidewalk and as long as they don't throw these things all over the place i mean there's more of these Here on Second Street downtown, you know it got trees and you know they made a nice little downtown area. There's more of these things than trees I mean it overpowers the landscape and its hurting people So in the past six or seven months we've seen more than 100 cities in the US get these rentable dockless motorized scooters And we're seeing a lot of accidents rack up in emergency rooms Over the past few weeks. I've been talking to doctors

1:30:48 Yeah, well hold on. That's the desired result. Push on the throttle and it just keeps on going? I don't know who you talk to. I've heard incidents where they push on the throttle and the scooter just keeps going A lot of doctors are saying most of the injuries they see coming in are people without helmets

1:31:33 A lot of people renting the scooters are tourists, they're not traveling with helmets or people just going about their day-to-day lives. They're not carrying around a helmet and this is contributing to a lot of head injuries That's part of the problem with the scooters there's different laws in different states different cities so people don't really know what the rules are Some states require helmets some don't In California it used to be the law that everyone had to wear a helmet but one of the scooter companies, Birdz backed a bill To get that helmet requirement taken out and so starting January people won't have to wear helmets in California So when you sign up to rent one of these scooters You have to click through agreements in the app and basically those agreements are

1:32:15 taking on full responsibility for what happens with that scooter. So it absolves the scooter companies of any responsibility or liability, so if you get hurt it's your fault not the company's. That's the part I liked the best It's the old EULA trick. So when you go up to the scooter, you want a ride then you have to have the app and then you say okay I'm gonna... Yeah, sign off! You sign off on everything even if the thing is defective. Even if it blows right under ya which I am waiting for. The old EULA trick. When will some judge have some balls? And throw that whole thing out

1:33:02 Unless you can prove someone read it and if there's any option. So I buy some software And I've already paid my money to pay my money for the software, and I'm gonna not...I don't like this EULA so I say no I don't accept it The software won't work. No that's correct in many cases Yeah, you can't get any further they'll say great You just can't use the software correct what about my money? Yeah, I know. You know there's another issue in that regard and it is something Apple is doing And there are lawsuits...I think even a class-action lawsuit Is they do all kinds of tricks to not let you repair your Apple products outside of official Apple channels

1:33:52 Which is kind of, it's another side of that coin. It's like hey I bought this, I own this, I should be able to do whatever I want with it. Certainly if something's broken I should be able to go to someone who can repair it but they make that impossible you know? If you try to open this then that gets disabled...it's like booby trap basically and there's what does it right of first ownership or there some basic law that says you know you should have the right to repair your device Yeah, you should. Well... I bought it! Unfortunately that's not how it works but everybody in Congress is a lawyer so that's why we get stuff like this. So I was taking my dry cleaning to Kathy's on the 3rd and right there in front of the Blue Grocer is where a lot of homeless guys hang out You know, I used to give money We talked about this, I don't do it anymore

1:34:51 No, no. Because the same guy I give money to is still there and he lies to me. He says, I'm gonna get some shoes. And he doesn't get any shoes It doesn't matter. I'm done with it. I don't do it anymore not in Austin at least You're fed up! and I'll tell you why was very happy about it because So I'm walking as a guy coming towards me kind of yeah, you can see he's transient I think homeless would be the right description but transient he stopped someone in front of me They didn't shake their head and he stops for me. I said now so I did my business I walk around the block And then he comes from the other direction, he's coming at me again. He's tracking you! And of course he again asked me I said that you just asked me no 30 seconds later... ...He whizzes by me on an e-scooter meaning the guy has a smartphone A means of payment Are you kidding me Austin? Just whipping it by So long sucker That's pretty much it Definitely

1:35:54 Well, this is not gonna help. Let's see, there was a... Just a quick hit on Australia. Let's play that little story about apparently got a lot of fire and floods going on there but probably because global warming The people of Australia grappled today with extreme fire and extreme rainfall Sydney was inundated with a month worth of rain in a single morning Deluge flooded homes and streets claimed at least one life We've had storm events before in New South Wales We've had storm events in Sydney before but not this widespread, not over this continuing period of time. We've had in excess of 100 millimetres of rain already in some areas of Sydney but one of the things we're happening is that the rain is flooding different areas at different times

1:36:44 Meanwhile, in northeastern Australia firefighters in Queensland state battled an unprecedented 138 fires as temperatures soared to 104 degrees. Authorities said the fire danger has gone too catastrophic that is the worst on their scale I didn't hear global warming in the report. What's wrong? That's just wrong! So I've been working on my Australian accent want to hear it sure Steak and shrimp. That's as far as I've gotten. John at Dvorak dot org is where you can send your official pronunciation, please send him lots of audio files telling him how to pronounce steak and shrimp. Zuckerberg was invited

1:37:44 the UK to testify in front of government there. He was a no-show! They sent his, I guess the local... Why would he go? Well that's a good question here is quick exchange between his His proxy from double his no No, it's a body double who would know the difference and that if ever if ever a good reason to have a bot in The simulation. It will be that guy now they sent his local VP you said earlier on but you were you apologized for the decision for Mark Zuckerberg Not appearing here. You took responsibility for that How do you think that looks as a member of this Parliament?

1:38:26 Um, not great. I guess is the answer? I can just see the call he's getting from Zuckerberg What did you say?! No... What about the lines we rehearsed But what was this about it seems that UK Parliament has some info We don't have like another problem for Facebook the UK parliament getting ahold of internal Facebook documents what's in them So Tyler, ahead of a panel questioning of the Facebook VP tomorrow on fake news and disinformation British Parliament has obtained internal Facebook documents from an app developer. This developer sued Facebook alleging its data policies were anti-competitive We don't know what's in these documents yet And Facebook has fought to keep them private because they may include emails between senior executives A California state court ordered to keep them under seal

1:39:19 But the chairman of the House of Commons committee which secured the documents says they can choose to publish them if they like So, of course we'll have to see what happens if they do choose to publish them. But no matter what Tyler It's just yet another headache for Facebook. All right? Yeah and the headaches just keep on coming Zuckerberg I think yeah go ahead Well, I've been watching this and since I'm not a Facebook user me Neither I think it can be pretty objective. I think they're finally, after they looked at the numbers Yeah Facebook this Facebook that Facebook is eating the media's lunch $40 billion dollars is going to Facebook That should be going to the media and they finally figured out that Facebook is not their friend Yes yes in fact I have a clip here from

1:38:26 Um, not great. I guess is the answer? I can just see the call he's getting from Zuckerberg What did you say?! No... What about the lines we rehearsed But what was this about it seems that UK Parliament has some info We don't have like another problem for Facebook the UK parliament getting ahold of internal Facebook documents what's in them So Tyler, ahead of a panel questioning of the Facebook VP tomorrow on fake news and disinformation British Parliament has obtained internal Facebook documents from an app developer. This developer sued Facebook alleging its data policies were anti-competitive We don't know what's in these documents yet And Facebook has fought to keep them private because they may include emails between senior executives A California state court ordered to keep them under seal

1:39:19 But the chairman of the House of Commons committee which secured the documents says they can choose to publish them if they like So, of course we'll have to see what happens if they do choose to publish them. But no matter what Tyler It's just yet another headache for Facebook. All right? Yeah and the headaches just keep on coming Zuckerberg I think yeah go ahead Well, I've been watching this and since I'm not a Facebook user me Neither I think it can be pretty objective. I think they're finally, after they looked at the numbers Yeah Facebook this Facebook that Facebook is eating the media's lunch $40 billion dollars is going to Facebook That should be going to the media and they finally figured out that Facebook is not their friend Yes yes in fact I have a clip here from

1:40:10 CandaNavia, the CBC. It's CandaNavian radio This guy actually has it figured out and he can't believe that the CandaNavian broadcasting also don't just see what is happening to them Why does CBC trust Facebook? Why does every outlet on CBC tell its listeners to go like them on Facebook? Not just CBC, but other journalistic entities as well. But we're CBC so I don't care about the other journalist entities! Why do the people at CBC mandate that CBC personnel promote Facebook? Why does CBC continue to engage in commercial relationships with Facebook?

1:40:46 Now that it's clear to us that Facebook is a threat to democracy and CBC as a public broadcaster should be strengthening democracy. So I would like to hear from the senior managers of this corporation, which I do not work for very clearly and further every time I've appeared on this show to talk about Facebook Facebook has complained to CBC and CBC has not defended me or it's not defended our right to have these conversations, although Metro Morning does. Right? And that to me is the hypocrisy of our reporting on Facebook that we talk about it but as a company we do nothing. Jesse thank you. Hopefully I'll come back but if not thanks everybody. Jesse Hirsch, technology columnist on Metro Morning

1:41:23 Jesse at the end should have said, like me on Facebook. That would've been funny but that's a point that as well may I mean they do it on all these networks to like us on Facebook, why? Why should they like you on Facebook? These media companies are stupid they've always been stupid this is i'm going to bring back a story that's you know lot of listeners have heard a couple times I'll tell it again You were there when Craig Newmark was telling, or what I'm sorry. When the Phil Bernstein was telling the story back in the day when Craig Newmark, the guy who did Cray or does Craigslist walked into The Chronicle as big newspaper in San Francisco said hey! I've got this thing about doing classifieds and think we should team up and we can take to classify world over And it was like a newspaper guys said, get out of here

1:42:17 What do you know about anything? Get out, out. And so they lost their edge but these guys have always been that way the newspapers have never been able to predict their own demise because of the internet they can't figure out that advertising works differently on the internet than it does in print and is so there's stupid when it comes to Facebook and what I think now they're starting to beat up Facebook in an unwarranted manner I don't think Zuckerberg has to go to the parliament. It's got nothing to do with them. Tell him just sawed off, as they would say. Sawed off? Well there is more coming down the pike for that and if i were mainstream I'd be making a big deal out of this. The Department of Justice this week unsealed charges against eight individuals in... They're saying one of the largest digital advertising frauds runs into billions

1:43:11 Looks like there's a lot of Russian names here, so I don't even know where these guys are. But the department unsealed all this they had they had a federal court seal...I don't know why? They had seizure warrants FBI took over 31 domains 89 servers bot nets the whole thing and was very sophisticated and they had 1900 or servers That were just replicating people, you know doing the mouse thing. This is a big deal in business Yeah So finally this is now out this is where you want to go after the juggler You want to go for the jugular going on for over a decade and we've been talking about it of course

1:43:54 Yeah, so now we have here this there's all kinds of stories coming out about this now. Here two international cyber criminal rings dismantled and eight defendants indicted for causing billions of dollars in losses in digital advertising fraud Finally finally someone's gonna figure out how phony it really is They also face bag with their 2 billion served How can you have two billion? How can you still say we served two billion people when you deleted 500 million I mean, come on. Can someone please just do this arithmetic? And the last thing for Zuck... You know this New York Times report which no one talks about where you know there was some anti-semitism going on which they did on purpose you know hey let's get these anti-semitic conspiracy theories about George Soros out there well that does not sit well with the hospital San Francisco General Hospital

1:44:52 Which was... now, was the whole hospital named after Zuckerberg? Or a wing. He gave 75 million dollars to the hospitals foundation in 2015 I think it's now called the Zuckerberg General or something like that Yeah well they're going to take it off There are two big donors in San Francisco to hospitals him and our sales force guy Benioff yeah Well they're taking his name off for the Jew thing What?! Yeah, on Tuesday. Listen I'll read it to you on Tuesday San Francisco supervisor Aaron Peskin reportedly reportedly proposed the city remove Zuckerberg's name from San Francisco General Hospital proposal which was renamed

1:45:36 It's not normal for private, he says. It's not normal for private entities to use information to spread in this case anti-semitic conspiracy theories on platforms they control Believe me John when you do this especially Zuckerberg as a Jew He's the worst kind of Jew you can be No. Okay? No I'm not saying it's that the worst kind of Jew one way or the other maybe is maybe isn't and i don't care They're not taking his name off that hospital all right Too much money is involved I'm sure Benioff would be fine just jumping in, just to mess with the guy. Or someone will... He's got his own thing it says the other system that he sees in a different hospital system is giving money to them and UCSF or something like that. And he's got any off this Benny off of that. Zuckerberg's gonna now there's no way well he's out there saying it so

1:46:29 Yeah, the city council of San Francisco are a bunch of douchebags. They say stuff just to get attention. I don't have any clips or anything...I could but we haven't talked about it much this CRISPR thing this gene editing Oh! I have the clip Fantastic Apparently he's got another person all ready to go Chinese genetics part 2 A Chinese scientist who says he engineered the first genetically edited babies now says another pregnancy is underway He Jun Kuei made the announcement today at an international conference in Hong Kong. There's been no independent confirmation of his claims, but scientists have condemned his experiments. Do you think this is really true that he has really been successful with this?

1:47:14 Could be a fake, you know there's been a lot of medical fraud and... A lot of people are really into this CRISPR thing. This gene editing. Well we'll see what happens Oh here comes the baby now! Ah it's a girl Born talking Just the gene switch I got to meet the first clone dog years ago Really? Yeah i was in Korea That's what started it Yeah, I forgot the name of this dog was big. I can't remember what kind of dog is big dog nice nice guy seemed like a regular dog to me could be fake but i think it was the real thing clone dog came out on stage everybody got to pet him It was very funny

1:48:00 piece from John Bolton, who I still don't understand why he's in government at all. I do not like this guy. He got the goods on somebody! Yes...I don't know how we did it but anyway he pretty much gave me now 100% assurance there is no tape of Khashoggi's murder There is NO TAPE OF IT And he's going to try and weasel out of it, but it really just strengthens my thought that there is no tape. Let me take the question of the tape first. No I haven't listened to it and I guess I should ask you why do you think I should? What do you think I'll learn from it? Well your the National Security Advisor so you might have access to that sort of intelligence How many in this room speak Arabic

1:48:47 You don't have access to an interpreter? Well, you want me to listen to it. What am I going to learn from...I mean if they were speaking Korean and I wouldn't learn any more from it either. An interpreter would be able tell you what's going on. Then I can read a transcript too. Okay so you don't think its important that we hear that at the national level? I'm just trying to make the point that everybody who says why don't you listen to the tape unless you speak Arabic? What are you gonna get from it? The president has spoken to our position on this issue he's spoken very clearly and that is our position Yeah, there's no tape. And of course we want to hear that but they're all too chicken shit to say We want to hear the murderer! That's what we wanna here. We do not care what language its in. We wanna hear brrrr

1:49:30 We want to hear the saw going, with a bone saw we want to hear the guy going... You know and come on if this tape existed surely someone would have it by now. But no there's a transcript we just say that was a tape here's the transcript It's the oldest trick in the book I'm not gonna argue you might be right There may be the whole thing could be something of a hoax And what do they have the tape for in the first place? They're supposed to have a video too, they said at the beginning if you remember. Yeah! We want to see this video. Let's just see the video we don't want to see the tape. Well now it's just gone off into the annals of truth truthiness John it'll now forever be that way there was a tape and there was a buzzsaw and they killed him and then there was video and... Don't worry about it that's just what happened Now there's a little extra meme to all of this

1:50:21 And it's mind-boggling. Whereas two years ago, even before the election we know that there was collusion. We had lots of collusion between the Russians and Trump and it's because Trump is under control by Putin And he has all these financial and business ties He just boasted about how much money he makes So that's why he's always been acting in Russia's best interest because of his own personal interests and financial and business interest in Russia And now, although we have never heard it before really to this degree. It's time to roll out the same script for KSA being the kingdom of Saudi Arabia Here is Adam Schiff He is now the chair of the intelligence committee One of things that you want to probe Is the president relationship with Saudi Arabia You told The Washington Post

1:51:13 You have an idea that the president is going easy on Saudi Arabia because of his business interests and that you want to look into that. Do you have any evidence to support that, going in? Well, look the president is not being honest with the country about the murder of Jamal Khashoggi. I think in part he feels that by saying that we don't know or that the world is a dangerous place Or everybody does it? He thinks it makes him look strong and actually makes him look weak It means that our allies don't respect us our enemies Don't fear us What is driving this? I don't know. Whether this is simply an affinity that he has for autocrats, he seems to choose them repeatedly over his own intelligence agencies or whether there's a financial motivation that is his own personal finances we do know of course

1:52:03 He has openly bragged about how many millions he makes from Saudi Arabia. Is his personal financial interest driving US policy in the Gulf? Is it driving US policy vis-a-vis the Russians? We don't know, but it would be irresponsible not to find out. How far are you going to dig on that? Well, this will not be the work alone of the Intelligence Committee. It'll be our responsibility make sure that we're getting good intelligence on not just the murder of Jamal Khashoggi but also Saudi policy vis-a-vis Qatar in Yemen and that the Congress is informed that we can make good policy decisions, that we can truth tell if the President is misrepresenting the matter to the American people. So that where we have a foreign policy driven by American interests not by some interest of the President so that will be our responsibility I think others will also have the responsibility looking at

1:53:00 Are there financial entanglements with the Gulf? Are their financial inducement that the president has not to want across the Saudis. That cannot be allowed to drive US policy. Okay, couple of things here first of all what the hell is this we're going to truth tell This is new for me so we will be able to truth-tell the public about it Is that short for telling the truth I don't know why would you use that term? I've never heard of okay And then the other thing... Well, the guy's a lizard so you never know what's going to come out of his mouth. But you know, the American public voted for majority in the House of Representatives which is great! Okay, so now go do stuff I mean the president doesn't make laws and doesn't... yeah he can have international treaties but ultimately you're in charge just go make the policy you want to make

1:53:59 I can't be the only one who's tired of this investigating everything and the same goes for the Republicans. It's tiring Can't believe I'm saying it, but you're saying it better believe it yeah, it's just come on man More truth-telling is a bit I'm truth telling you right now bro. I'm truth telling ya true telling oh, I got a funny one here Chunk we haven't talked about chunk in a long time chunk was on with Seltzer water boy Brian Stelter on whatever his media show is and he's talking about AOC, and he says something really appropriate which fries Seltzer waters brain I mean And it just me I was like you guys are that you guys are the problem? And I'll play it until we're tired of hearing him But what I found interesting was how seltzer water pronounces his name now. It's CENK

1:54:58 And we always say chunk, but what is it really? Shank? Shank. Shank I think. Ugar. Yeah let's listen to a seltzer. So drank jank as Trump is to Twitter. Drank! So drank jank as Trump... Jank?! Drink drink. Drank jank! So drank jank as Trump is to Twitter. Is Ocasio-Cortez to Instagram? Is that one of the lessons here she's using a new platform in a new way Well, I mean look you can say that Trump was untethered from the donors in a sense as well because he didn't raise enough money from them and so hence he was able to speak out more vociferously on social media. As Ocasio-Cortez does on the left but i gotta say one thing uh... in her defense of what you just mentioned Brian

1:55:45 Look, you say she doesn't do enough interviews on television now. But let's be fair when she needed those interviews you guys weren't there for her so before the election almost- Stop it! But our job is no no no no but Brian it isn't about being there or not It's about you guys didn't think she had a chance So you didn't give her any outlet at all And so the people in her district didn't get a real sense of, you know who had the better point of view. She overcame that anyway and went on to win. So if you think hey well she's gotta go on television to speak to the people apparently she didn't. She had to go on The Young Turks and social media to speak to the people as she did and she won! So she doesn't owe television anything. She doesn't owe the corporate Democrats anything. She doesn't owe Republicans anything

1:56:33 So she can go on and make her case anywhere she likes, and it's incredibly effective. I think the guy is making a very good point And I agree that...I've always said watch out for AOC ma'am You don't have to be smart And i think lots of people would agree with me That to be to be president even she's an elected official. I'm sorry is the better elected official She certainly owes the media at the public Her voice and do you hear this? This is this is gonna be very interesting to watch now They're all offended what she owes she owes the media houses during questions. I take your point about that her not getting enough attention Before she won, but I don't think that's

1:57:12 particularly unusual for somebody running for Congress. She was not running for president, I think then it would be a different story. Sorry, Cenk, last word to you- Just real quick and look, I think that unfortunately the media- Hold on stop! Stop! This is where Chunk should say, well that's a great argument except you guys also didn't cover Bernie Sanders very well when he was getting the same kind of crowds that Trump was getting and saying crazy stuff different than Trump from the other side. But he had huge audiences and deserved some coverage. You guys didn't cover him at all in favor of Hillary! That's no of course not how he goes. I don't know he goes into this thing about because well, oh I'll play his argument But you're so right and the if only Bernie had understood how to use Twitter effectively He could have killed it yeah It's not in his DNA doesn't understand it but this is they are They're really kind of like what are you saying? You can't be a politician without the media that's pretty much what chunk

1:58:15 Drank jank is drank. Jank is saying and I think he's right that You don't need it, but these people they're not happy now his reason for you'll hear now as kind of not running for president. I think then it would be a different story. Sorry, just real quick look i think that unfortunately the media covers people with more money and a lot of that is corporate money and so its not just about Ocasio-Cortez its about the future and in 2020 will you cover progressive candidates that run uncorrupted? And my guess is NO! And then you'll turn around sometimes blame them later. Journalists should cover progressive candidates and conservative candidates we should cover them and make sure people know both of

1:58:55 But I hear your point. Absolutely, but unfortunately you give an advantage to people with more money and you do it all the time and unfortunately i think it aids in a bets corruption I would love to discuss that more in the future. I'm not sure how we support candidates who have more donor money That's your argument? Because they have more donor money, they get more news coverage? This idiot doesn't even understand how it works and he is in the middle of it He does a media show What?! You're saying people who raise lot of money they get more attention? No! Brian are you saying that not everybody in the media says well that person has better chance at winning because they have more money so there's this obsession with whose raised more money and hence is legitimate

1:59:32 That's the view in the mainstream media which is not held in actual elections. Yeah, interesting. Cenk thanks so much for being here. Drank! Interesting Cenk! Great drank thank you very much it was great thanks for being here dick never getting on again my shell Tell me about that. You're right about that tell me how to mean you where yeah, he's not gonna get on there again Nope, nope can't go in the media and accuse them of all these things you got him cozy up to him Yeah, he's always in this be honest He's in a state of dissonance all the time chink drank jank Because this is he has good thoughts. I mean that's not that's very much the way, I think about things which of course makes it Good well It's just a media thought is just like to read realism of them right being realistic right? But then you know he forgets to point out the Bernie Sanders doesn't know anything about the media for some reason doing the media show He's doing the media so that's great irony of network

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2:03:49 He goes on and says he's been twice a week, you know he likes to show it doesn't like to listen the mainstream media along with the daily meditation practice which has been remarkably beneficial in managing the size of my amygdala. Anticipated holiday expense will not allow me to send any more funds your way this year but it appears that donation I secure my knighthood even though I thought it was assured years ago when I sent one Bitcoin as a donation to the Daily Source Code in hopes that Adam might consider a crypto-donation. Okay, goes on about that. on December 11th. Alas, her amygdalae are under constant stress since her face bag news feed is overwhelmed with Trump hatred so she despises the no agenda show. And she may turn it off whenever she is in range of the sound of the podcast. The only way I might persuade her to listen to an entire show would be to honor her in this way. So I hope she appreciates the gesture

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2:05:39 Here's what I would recommend. If you're going to let her hear anything, this is the series here's how i do it First you take a snippet of the birthday segment and maybe this segment edit out everything that we just said like all that stuff get it up then edit in the birthday wish which is pretty straightforward and then say darling... You can call her darling sweetheart honey bun I think that we both would really benefit. I've already seen this myself if we just didn't go on Facebook for a while Let's do it together let's just do it together and let's just see if we feel any different after say a month, and if we feel a little better Then we'll go for another month And then around month three then you start slipping in the best podcasting the universe Yeah, and this episode too by the way so she'll remember oh yeah That's right

2:06:34 It may work, but I would not just say hey listen to this show. It's great happy birthday Try flowers that's my Facebook is a dick Yes Oh, I have a clip about that later on all right onward sir Steve in Ewing New Jersey 101 he wants some jobs karma give him some of that at the end Happy Friendsgiving he says yes You got it sir Steve Joseph Harrell in Moyok, North Carolina. 100. Jonathan Rose and Netanya. Oh is that Sir Jono?

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2:11:27 Here we go with our birthday list for today. It is the 29th of November 2018 We say happy birthday to Francisco Tejeda Anonymous in NorCal says happy birthday to Pamela who celebrates on December 11 Adam Ng says happy birthday to his brother Zach turning 36, November 29 Marijke Jongmond says Happy Birthday to her mom she turns 58 today and strangely not on the list Is The letter we had. Who was it again, Jack? Yeah the guy with his wife. You also mentioned Jessie she's just had her birthday so it's Mimi. It's Jessie and then who was the guy with his wife That's someone we've read Is that the dude on there? That was Pamela yeah Pamela but who wasn't saying happy birthday to Pamela Anonymous! Well anonymous okay I got it

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2:13:50 And thank you again for supporting us. Dvorak org slash na now here we have ham radio guys Ham Radio is the public service network of last resort when the apocalypse comes We're the guys who are gonna save the world, right? I'm rebooting our hams this time and there's a reason for it There's a new mode John. I don't know if you keep up with the the ham developments. I try There's a new digital mode which is FT8. And FT8 does something very amazing, it takes very low power and very quickly is able to exchange information with other stations

2:14:38 And it can do this all over the globe. It's done purely through propagation, you know shit bouncing off asteroids meteorites the moon I don't know why it's insane how well it works really phenomenal because you can do is on very low power Do you need special licensing for this? Well Interestingly, you can do it with a technician license. I think there may be some people doing it on VHF UHF but HF is where all the action is and yes you will need your license for that as well. But that... You know, you'd need general license in order to get to these frequencies where everyone is but

2:15:18 There's a new version of it already called JS 8 call and this allows you to do a whole bunch of incredibly cool things Besides just actually instead of sending just your call sign. You can send messages It does about 10 words per minute is the speed which considering, you know I'll give you an example five watts. You can get around the globe with conditions being right But even when conditions aren't that great it does very well and just think of a light bulb You know just how much energy is 5 watts really? It's not a lot of energy and But what's also cool is you can relay stuff and you kind of auto answer. And so I mean, I can send a message to a station say relay this message everyone near you hears it or within your reach which could be much more powerful station. You kind of auto answer with certain information and you can just basically text back and forth

2:16:12 So what I'd like to do is, I want to set up a no agenda ham network with this system. Because everyone can kind of participate if you're a ham You don't necessarily need the huge antenna but we can connect all our rigs together and do some relaying and rag-chew together! Talk about our gear! Rag-Chew... Talk about our gear! Hey i'm in the truck right now in the driveway And im'about to go in and see the missus The YL, the YL. The young lady the YL you know? When the apocalypse comes we're the guys who are gonna save the world right?! So be on the lookout for that No Agenda Hams We have a lot of them so I wanted to reboot that it's important that we keep our networks running. I agree Are you going to join in? Oh yeah absolutely

2:17:04 Yes. Now I wanted to get this out of the way, which was it looks like there was a six week cycle on the money event that was a fail and then they had the backtrack and it became his huge nightmare nobody knows we can't get any reporting on it or anything else. And this is the – well, you can play this clip. It pretty much explains most of it in a six-week cycle. Before I actually play it just for those who are new and may not know what the six-week cycle is we have an ungood authority that the FBI in particular possibly other government agencies but

2:17:42 creates some havoc somewhere and saves us from imminent death about every six weeks. And usually it's some patsy that they give a fake bombs to with, they rent the van for him given the fake detonator button and as he presses it they swoop in and they've saved the day once again and that keeps the budgets flowing It happens every six weeks let's see what happened in this cycle We are going to be in tonight here with a false alarm that sure looked like the real thing At America's Hospital, Walter Reed National Military Medical Center just outside Washington DC. That is where presidents have their checkups and wounded warriors are treated. Today police and first responders swarmed the facility after someone apparently made a monumental mistake

2:18:23 Here's David Martin. It was just after 2 p.m this afternoon when SWAT teams responded to reports of an active shooter at Walter Reed Medical Center where American servicemen and women recover from their wounds it turned out to be just a drill gone wrong but no one told the patients and staff some of whom sheltered in place they just evacuated us out into a parking garage, a medical technician texted CBS News estimating the number of evacuees between 80 and 90 We're being told it was a drill, CBS texted back. We were told it's not a drill he replied Among those who took shelter were an amputee and veteran suffering from traumatic brain injury One of them told CBS News patients were loaded into wheelchairs some holding crutches over their heads Those who could walk or pushing the wheelchairs There was fear Some guys grabbed baseball bats or whatever there was to defend themselves

2:19:22 From the Pentagon to the FBI, to local law enforcement, to Maryland Congressman Dutch Ruppersberger who was there. Everyone thought it was the real thing. There were people that were very concerned and upset and afraid as my understanding of Montgomery County Police came and didn't know about it. There are a lot of people that really had serious issues The Navy, which runs Walter Reed later found out that one of the medical center's subordinate commands had been planning a drill and as part of the planning accidentally triggered the alert. The Navy called that an improper use of the warning system. Jeff? All right David Martin thank you very much That's no six-week cycle! That's not even close there is no FBI involved it completely has nothing to do with it No, you look into if the FBI is involved

2:20:11 They just backed off because this was a disaster. Now do they still have... And they didn't want to have their name associated with it Do you think they still have to pay the crisis actors there per diem? I don't know what to do, i don't think they even put him in place. I think the whole thing was just botched. Botched from the beginning. It's a lie and it was botched. Botched. Ebola! Ah been looking at the Democratic Republic of Congo As Ebola has sparked up again, what we're waiting for at the NO Agenda show is for the military to be sent over because there's all kinds of groovy stuff. We want to protect and it's not the Ebola patients. Congo has begun their first ever trial to test the effectiveness and safety before experimental Ebola drugs

2:20:53 The World Health Organization calls it a giant step toward finding a treatment that will save lives. So far the current outbreak in Congo, there have been 365 confirmed Ebola cases 189 of those patients have died. How does this work? I thought they had a They already did a trial for Ebola. I thought they had a vaccine? Hold on, let's see... Let's see we have the old clip- And by the way is this number higher than the one that got all of publicity just a few years ago? Let's see..I have an old clip from Sanjay Gupta on the vaccine Again non essential travelers no longer go to West Africa They talked about several different things including a question that comes up quite a bit with regard to vaccines or some sort of treatment

2:21:40 for patients with Ebola and Dr. Frieden who's the head of the CDC said look he believes that still a year away before something like that is approved. And this is 2014, this clip so they just gave up it just stopped making the did all not no need to go five years you still haven't figured it out? It doesn't mean things like that won't get used in an experimental more compassionate use standpoint but the idea about having a vaccine available for sort of mass vaccinations, that's just not going to be available he thinks for at least a year so probably not during this particular outbreak. I'd like to know why... What happened since the year went by! This is 2014 supposed to be ready in 2015 now we're in 2018 and there's

2:22:21 Nothing and nobody talking about anything. What are you kidding me? Here's a Fauci from the same Let me see if it's the same date. Oh, gee yeah this is the old Fauci Yeah, yeah, this is the old next broth That's vouchy also from 2014. See what he says finally there was a story in The New York Times This week Mike Leventhal and you know New York Times must be true referred to it at the end of his report that Scientists had come up with a vaccine, a decade ago that was 100% effective in stopping Ebola in monkeys. But because of the fact that the disease then was so rare that there wasn't a market, there wasn't an incentive to test it and develop it. Question is there some way

2:23:04 First of all, do you think we could have had if there had been a full speed effort ten years ago? Could we have an Ebola vaccine by now and secondly is there some way when there is so little market for it that we can get these things developed just in case we get into this kind of situation. Answer to both questions certainly without pharmaceutical backing your not going to get a vaccine. Didn't we give these guys money for this too Something I remember something there was some funds made available. I thought that was mostly for Zika Well, that's when Ebola turned to Zika. We had one now you can't predict because there are scientific issues there we may not scientifically be able to do it but what the government is doing now through a program called BADA, the Biomedical Advanced Research Development Authority is to be able to finance things where you can stockpile so the government is realizing that even if there isn't the need out... Lies! Just lies

2:24:00 It's just all lies. So this has been going on for 15 years then? They talked about 2004... Yeah, so 15 years. Yeah, 14-15. So it's not about Ebola I just don't believe it! It is a lie. And in the black trunks weighing in at over 3 thousand troops The ISIS virus The killer from Nigeria Ebola And see how we do in the Congo troops are coming small heads are coming no, that's only Zika All right. I keep mixing all these memes up Let's play a little kind of

2:24:47 Throwaway clip I got here. Mm-hmm this is on apparently they found a bunch of manuscripts from Malcolm X's book The autobiography of Malcolm X very famous story that was I guess edited quite a bit because Malcolm was A little more mean spirited than they put him out to be oh, okay? Yeah In one paragraph, Haley softened the Malcolm's immoral white devil to read fat cat whites. It was further watered down in the published book to two-face whites. In another he could write for The Guardian. Malcolm said the American black man is wasting his time straining to integrate it can't be done

2:25:24 That phrase also didn't make it into the book. I think the question that scholars are going to ask is, is he helping shape the message? And was there something that Haley had as an agenda and I think it's complicated. I think Malcolm X really shines through from the first page. I have no doubt that that is Malcolm X story and its a very American one Malcolm was often critical of Martin Luther King's approach to racial progress. But in this 24-page chapter titled, The Negro one of three that went unpublished Malcolm uncannily predicted America would one day elect an African American president in the year 2000. Oh in the year 2000? Yeah He was late! He is off by 8 years. Off by eight years yeah well of course no doubt we can do that

2:26:13 There's a big article in the New York Times that uh, lot of people are talking about. And it's the... It's a feature story with the big deal. It's actually New York Times Magazine I'm sorry. Feature story The insect apocalypse is here! What does it mean? Are you talking about feeding us insects? No this is what I was going to ask you so it's a long story almost shaggy dog from the author him or herself about bugs and, gee I used to have when i was riding my bike had to keep my mouth closed. And I've noticed there's less bugs! I'm not getting so many bugs." You know this of course is due to global warming...I don't have to tell you that. There are going be more bugs with global warming. My question is how can you be all worried about the bug apocalypse and then we want people to eat the rest that are still here?

2:27:07 You're right. I don't understand found that fly in the ointment as it were. I love bugs! Very good job. Bugs, bugs, bugs. Yes, fly in the ointment. Thank you. Good one. Tastes like poop. Yeah. Um well we were right actually I should say One of our producers was very right in bringing the story to my attention initially. The Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, the crash, the Lion Air... that seems like we were spot on about what happened. This afternoon we are all going to get an alert on our phone!

2:27:49 That's not what you wanted to hear. This is what you wanted to hear Investigators are revealing more findings into that deadly lion air crash last month in Southeast Asia I'm sure you'll remember it a preliminary report found the plane was not Airworthy because there were technical problems reported on previous flights the pilots struggled with an automated anti-stalling system that repeatedly forced the plane's nose down, but it is unclear why the pilots did not follow procedures to disable the system. To characterize this as a roller coaster ride from hell would not be an overstatement but very simply what happened here was

2:28:32 There is a new system in the Boeing 737 MAX, which is different from the old Boeing 737 airplanes. It wasn't in the old planes it's in the new plane and this new system was put in because of some unique characteristics about the new plane. Essentially what it is, it's called the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System or MCAS and its designed to basically take control of the airplane away from the pilot a kind of autopilot, but not an autopilot to prevent the plane from stalling. And stalling is not like your car's stalling it's when there's not enough air traveling over the wing to create enough lift to keep the plane in the air So in this instance very simply what happened was the plane took off as soon as they raised the flaps this new system, this MCAS system kicked in

2:29:26 in were not trained on how to react to this. If you believe Lion Air, it was not in the operating manual if you believe the Allied Pilots Association there was little or no information about this new system disclosed to flight crews including a Lion Air plane and so they were in a situation which was completely new and tragic

2:30:09 So now we're just waiting to see who's going to get sued over this. Well, the story I heard was that there was a bunch of what's their Southwest is a big 737 user and the pilots that had interaction with the Max said they never heard of this. There was no They never got a memo the first time they heard about this whole system and that you could flip it off completely, which is what you're supposed to do in this situation. Well the procedure...the way it works in aviation these procedures are documented and while these guys were struggling they were more than like-they should have been pulling out manuals and saying okay here's the checklist if this happens because you can't really think about all that oh let me try this now you go by the book yeah and in the procedure should have said pull the circuit breakers and it would have been fixed

2:31:03 But in fact, they had different instructions based upon the behavior of the previous version of the aircraft. The guys that were talking about this is we didn't know anything about this until we saw this report and this airplane now we look now we know but I mean, so I doubt if this is gonna happen again because everybody...because it's a horrible situation. Everybody knows about it. I think Boeing's gonna get sued. I think so too Remember they just brought their two years ago They brought their avionics in-house So the question is can they blame it still on some Indians or are they gonna blame it on themselves? They'll blame it on Indians. I'm pretty sure that they're going to blame it on and we've cut all ties with that With the company that we outsourced to it will never happen again We're sorry

2:31:49 But it also shows Boeing did a I mean the 787 plane was so outsourced Yeah, because they were thinking of this new. We know there's a new world we're gonna outsource everything as a global And so they outsource pretty much everything to the on the plane to the point where the plane was late by what two years? Yeah You couldn't get the thing to you know It was just a piece of crap because all the outsourcing cost them more money than they would have saves They just built a damn playing up in Everett But it's also, it shows you technology is really going to become a massive issue in our lives. And you're gonna see people relying on technology to get you places so we're gonna see some big outages of the Ubers and that's gonna bring down entire cities for a day We'll see outages with Google for Nest and your door whatever else you tie into this is really bad and people rely on this so much Stay away!

2:32:45 And, you know one of the big industries on the internet I'd say and i don't know too much about it but recruitment has got to be a huge industry. These job boards are monster boards. Oh yeah! You're right So they've taken another step and they're all jitty about it too wait until you hear what's going on and these guys... improve the hiring process. We're adding some more technology which I'm sure will get you the perfect hire. Hello, my name is Vera and i'm a robot and what's your name? Hi my name is Jason Bellini this is Vera a robot that does job interviews What are three top important tips for sales person She has done 10 thousand of them and counting

2:33:37 Congratulations, we chose you as one of the best candidates for a sales representative. What looks like the future is already a reality. Hiring is undergoing a revolution almost all fortune 500 companies now use some form of automation She keeps winking at me and then rolling her eyes at me But many companies are also trying to look under the hood of job applicants and assess them in completely new ways. You're quantifying human behavior, human expressions, human voices turning that into data We're now using artificial intelligence to help companies find the very best talent And most likely you were being analyzed

2:34:19 by an algorithm. Experts call the proliferation of artificial intelligence, machine learning and data science tools the Wild West of hiring critics even some hiring managers themselves say they're concerned about these tools potential for bias issues like fairness, transparency and accuracy so I can just see the HR departments going oh this is perfect Can also never get blamed because the computer hired that person so I can never have a shitty hire. Yes, absolutely This is exactly what I would do yeah you got your ass covered Yeah It's what everybody else is doing so it's best practice Get out of getting your ass fired yep

2:35:05 So you do best practice and you have a robot, and then you blame the robot. That's fantastic! But what's a little more nefarious is what they're really doing... And I looked into some of these companies about five of them now already who are doing this so you sit in front of your computer laptop webcam and this animated head is interviewing you but of course what it's really doing and that's why does things like at Winks And does the... it's looking for your reaction. It's, can you imagine me with my Tourette's? I mean she would hang up in two seconds like sorry you're not a good candidate we'll get rid of ya My head shaking all over the place Doesn't do that much no That's You know it's shake

2:35:46 Okay. Well you do, I mean... Twitch! You can keep from shaking and know that for a fact But then if i was doing that during job interview I'd be like working really hard not to twitch and then they'll be like man that guy's too uptight we can't hire him well there's that element I would never win I would never win but this is the professor Teddy K is laughing his ass off I'm sure Let's just rely on more technology. That'll be great Oh, and while you're at it finally the veil is lifted on what Amazon is going to do in health care. I'm gonna give one more punchline to your last comment Okay let's rely on technology even more and more and more And then let's shut down the nuclear devices in France so there's no electricity

2:36:31 Yeah, you might want to work on that. Sounds like a plan! You need something to work on as a punchline. Yeah well I blew it up. Amazon is now selling software that searches patients medical records for information that could help doctors and hospitals. That's according to the Wall Street Journal The journal's parent company and Fox News' parent company share common ownership On the searches not surprisingly critics say they're worried about possible privacy issues The Fox Business Network's Jerry Willis reporting live from the floor of the New York Stock Exchange. Hi Shep, that's right so big market opportunity here imagine 80% of hospitals in America they are digitizing their records or they have already compared to 10 percent ten years ago So big opportunity there according to some market players That's a seven billion dollar marketplace already we see Google We see Apple

2:37:24 getting into health care that represents a 3.2 trillion dollar opportunity and as you know healthcare is only growing, only getting bigger as the population in this country ages I want to talk a little bit about privacy because that's obviously a very big concern Amazon of course a company that knows what you're doing at home because if it's Alexa apps knows where you shop because of Amazon.com, it's retail operation but what we're hearing from Amazon itself is that Amazon Web Services will not be able to access this information, it will be encrypted the algorithms will encrypt the details and... The algorithms will encrypt the details! Whew, glad to hear that.

2:38:20 Very technical. Doctors have their own code for describing some of this stuff and they are regulated here by HIPAA which is a long time law in this country that protects people's privacy so that's what we're hearing from Amazon this afternoon, Shep back to you Right so Amazon of course has already figured out even a recent article in Motherboard states the people who buy smart speakers or as we like to say on the show talking tubes have pretty much given up on privacy. Like, I know but i like the benefit of it this is what... Turning the lights on with your voice! This is what Amazon's strategy is because I came across another article um another service actually called AWS Ground Station and now I'm starting to see what they're really getting into. AWS ground station so it's amazon web services. Major Tom? Yes

2:39:13 They are collecting all data that is transmitted from CubeSats, PocketCube, SunCubes, LEOs, medium earth orbits, geostationary orbit satellites. Anything they can get their hands on they are downloading that into AWS Ground Station and in making... SkyNet! And while they're making it available with streaming to capture, process and store to process for image analysis. To build and train different kinds of models analytics reporting storage. You know if you wanted to have like I want to have some process that alerts me to a specific type of event in the world that is sad that satellite data could help Me with like, I don't know Hurricane. I'll just make something up then it couldn't you could set up alert some he could do all kinds of different things with this and I think That's kind of their strategy moving forward which I feels a lot better than what Google is doing because these guys do charge for everything they do

2:40:12 They're going to have all this health data and they'll say, well look you know it could be very beneficial these companies are working on things and just integrate oh you know what why don't upload your 23andMe data. And we've got this who got your health record and if we just say it's okay I'll unlock it will anonymize it don't worry there is no problem just trust us And this is their business. Their business is, I think it's going to be much bigger than their shopping business They are making available just ways to parse through any kind of data that you would want but really targeted segments which I think actually are useful Is it a good idea that Amazon has at all? No Truly evil Corp But the strategy I think is phenomenally smart Eh who needs it Well

2:41:02 No one needs it, but people get convinced and they get shoot look Ten years ago, we were already... Look! Listen. Hear me now believe me later ten years ago We were talking about how eventually you'd have GPS trackers in your car It would be tied into insurance and You will be able to do without it for awhile until they mandate it And the same is going to be for health trackers on your wrist You just won't be able to get insurance if you don't do it We talked about this for a decade and now it's coming to fruition It's a beautiful thing our baby is being born John Appreciate the beauty of the gift. Nothing to appreciate! Okay, well thanks for that depressing news... Let's see what do I have? Well I got something that's upbeat. Okay. Uh did you know anything about ice cider now i'm interested in getting some. Get some what?! Ice Cider. Ice Cider no

2:42:02 Yeah, ice cider. Apparently Canadians make the best ice cider. Cider sales in the US have increased nearly 500% since 2011 and the number of ciderees has grown more than four times from 187 to 820 One cider product relies on winter's natural cold to turn it into liquid gold And now the country's largest cider maker wants to take a bite out of that market Adriana Diaz traveled to Apple Country to see how this seasonal specialty is made Nestled in the Quebec countryside is a farm so picturesque it looks like a living postcard. Horses graze in the pasture as their owner and his best friend roam the grounds, but despite his tranquil surroundings Christian Bartemouf is no ordinary farmer

2:42:49 He's a disruptor credited for reviving Canada's apple industry. It takes a village, they say. Not a village...a big town! He did it three decades ago when he invented ice cider an alcoholic apple drink akin to dessert wine it takes advantage of something Canada has in abundance the cold no I pick Apple when There is minus 10 Celsius in the apple. Instead of picking apples in the fall, he waits until they freeze in the winter when the apple sugar peaks. He was inspired by a popular drink called ice wine which is made from frozen grapes. John you've hit upon something very big here this is an exit strategy

2:43:36 This is, I'm sure millennials love this whole idea. Oh yeah! Ice cider can you imagine Curry Dvorak ice cider? You know we're like the two geezers who really know what we're doing We can come up with... Yeah because they are apple experts Yes were apple experts we understand everything about apples about wine we understand that and i think the Millennials will go crazy for this stuff I think they're already going crazy for it. Well, let's look into white labeling some stuff Okay You can contact us you can contact us Adam and curry calm John I'm sorry Joan at the vorac dot org and that is your deconstruction for today everybody? I'm gonna go back to driver update hell figure out what's going on with machine But hopefully everything will work keep your backup recordings if you're listening live on no agenda stream comm just in case

2:47:04 powder. We're going to engage in some reckless speculation here, so I'm all in favor of that. A lot of friends and friends doing things to put you in this position that you are now in correct? Journalism is dead! The Guardian, that's in the UK claims Tall Paul secretly met with Assange at the Ecuadorian embassy

2:47:48 Roger calls me three times. We have a discussion. Manafort was going in there to get restaurant recommendations for a great night out in London It's very dishonest, corrupt is interesting it depends on your definition Because Roger wanted to explain this tweet That tweet settles it To gauge what he's up too because He has been up to so many things for so many years government is getting hand in hand with someone the government also believes to be a liar and a criminal. I haven't been a lobbyist in Washington 25, 20 years probably and have no intention of going back to that man afford his lives so many times throughout his career that perhaps he's lost track of it all these coincidences just simply smell funny to Mueller and his team you better have betrayed the country or else someone owes you a big apology

2:48:39 This triangle is spinning very slowly. This is what we call a leak signature. Collusion. They're colluding, yeah? Friend in embassy plans two more dumps...dumps of uh... If the media's not gonna do their job there are going to be more WikiLeaks in the future. Well I certainly hope so Donate to No Agenda, they give us shows week after week. Donate to No Agenda it's a show that is really unique! Donate to No Agenda listen to John and Adam speak. Donate to No Agenda science is turning into a clique

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