Episode 1086 · Sunday, 18 November 2018

Shark Hole

High-profile resignations rock the British government as global leaders clash over the definition of nationalism during a friction-filled Armistice Day centenary in Paris.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 1086

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Theresa May faces a crumbling government as Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab and Work and Pensions Secretary Esther McVey resign over the 585-page draft withdrawal agreement. The proposed Irish backstop has triggered accusations of a surrender to Brussels, with Nigel Farage labeling the deal a transition to a slave state. Meanwhile, Pacific Gas and Electric shares have plummeted following disclosures of an electrical incident occurring just before the devastating Camp Fire began in California.

In Paris, Emmanuel Macron and Justin Trudeau utilized the Armistice Day centenary to condemn nationalism, sparking a global debate over the etymology of patriotism versus populism. German Chancellor Angela Merkel joined the fray by calling for a unified European Union army, a move that drew sharp rebukes from Donald Trump regarding NATO commitments. Domestically, Nancy Pelosi navigates a leadership challenge from Representative Marsha Fudge while climate activists from the Sunrise Movement, joined by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, occupied her office to demand a Green New Deal.

Technical failures plagued the Paris Peace Forum as world leaders arrived late to a ceremony featuring empty chairs and disconnected production elements. In the Netherlands, the High Court ruled the controversial Black Pete tradition a cultural practice despite ongoing protests in Amsterdam. The program also welcomes Sir Tin to the peerage and examines the Hollywood Health and Society program at the Norman Lear Center for its role in embedding political narratives into popular television scripts.


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CHAPTER 01 / 31 Discussion

California Wildfires, PG&E Liability, and High-Speed Rail Theories

The 2018 California wildfires, specifically the Camp Fire and Malibu blazes, have resulted in a rising death toll, including microcomputer pioneer Bill Godbout. Pacific Gas and Electric (PG&E) shares dropped significantly after the company disclosed an electrical incident occurring shortly before the Camp Fire began. While official reports investigate potential negligence, alternative theories circulate regarding directed energy weapons and the fire's proximity to proposed high-speed rail paths.

california· wildfires· pg&e· camp fire· malibu· high-speed rail· bill godbout

00:00 shoplifter, thief, gangster. Brexit boots on the ground and broadcasting live from the Garden of Amsterdam and Gitmo Nation lowlands in the Laden Loft. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm finding boxes of ballots in my closet. I'm John C. DeVore. I was wondering was it gonna be the the recount was it gonna be the fact that you're on fire How you doing John good really doesn't seem like things are good in California right now. Oh great, okay?

00:51 Okay. Nice, smoky, get to watch all these people walking around with masks on, like, you know, that does anything. I mean, it's not as though the air is filled with particulates or what else, it's actually vapors, but okay, there's smoke. Smoke's in the air. Smoke on the water. Well, give me a little report. I mean, I've been in Holland for a few days and I was wondering what's going on. I mean, I'm seeing nothing but bad stuff. Yeah, ballot tampering seems to be the main thing. That's the only one? But just stick with the fires for a second because there's very little good information here about what's really happening. Of course, they always play the fires up in Europe a bit. Yeah, we just show... It's actually, they're more contained than before. They've already burned down what they're going to burn down.

01:40 They already killed what they're gonna kill. Too many, just fire up north killed about probably, I think it's up to about 50 plus people. It's gonna maybe be a hundred. Wow. Maybe. Has the death toll, I mean there's been plenty of times that this, these areas have burned down in Malibu certainly in 93 I think. Well the problem with these areas here, well for one thing with Malibu you can run into the ocean. up there there's one road in one road out and then the whole place starts burning and the roads get blocked and people get stuck in their cars they got to jump in the river streams it's a terrible situation. Have there ever been this many casualties in a fire like that? No, Bill Godbout apparently has died in the fire in a nearby town near Paradise. Who?

02:29 Bill Godboud is a very famous microcomputer pioneer. He did the compu-pro computers. He had a operation in Oakland where he sold electronic gear. Aw, that's too bad. Very famous local guy. That's too bad. Yeah, I mean, all we're getting over here is just reports from celebrities. Oh yeah. They love that over here. Look, there's Will Smith in the fire! Oh, look, there's Pink in the fire! Oh, look, there's everyone in the fire! It's just all the celebrities. Yeah, of course. Yeah. What else is important? Nothing, of course. Who cares about that? Oh, and the fact that Trump is wrong about it. That's another big story here. Trump said they've mismanaged their water. Celebrities say Trump mismanaged the... Trump says they mismanaged their water and it's wrong because we all know it's global warming. Yeah, well, they're trying to blame it on global warming. Of course. I did pick up

03:26 Couple of interesting theories. I think this is the the most realistic as the report comes from uh... pacific gas electric themselves shares of pgv finishing lower by more than twenty percent today after the company disclosed an electric incident that happened right before the campfire wildfire began in northern california last week the company putting out a statement saying quote because of the campfire has not yet been determined pg and he has provided an electric incident report to the safety and enforcement division of the california public utilities commission with respect to this fire The information provided in this report is preliminary and PG&E will fully cooperate with any investigations. The company also offered its condolences to those affected by the wildfire saying, quote, our hearts are with the communities impacted by the Camp Fire. Although the investigation is still ongoing, PG&E says if it is found liable for the wildfire, its insurance would not be enough to cover the costs of damages.

04:26 So did this start because of this, this elect, this problem they had? Well, you know why it's called the camp, you know why it's called the campfire? Yeah, because it was apparently a campfire that got out of control. Yes. Okay. Well, who are you going to sue for that? Well, not PG, not PG&E, that's for sure. So they've come up with this thing that, I mean, PGD is negligent in general, but somebody claims they saw some sparks coming from one of the transmission towers and the fire started and the next thing you know, they burned the place down. Despite the fact that it's always been called the Camp Fire because it was started by a campfire that went out of control and it doesn't take much if you're in the right area for that to happen. It just spreads in every which way.

05:18 But now okay, they're gonna have a new theory in PG's PG knees like they know it probably had something to do with it now the other thing that There's a really there's a couple of good conspiracy theory threads about this which you'd appreciate Of course this was a directed energy weapon. This is obvious when you see the you see the The trees are not to get paradise for years. No actually Here's the theory if you follow and only you would know this I don't know if this is true or not, but if you follow the path of These fires and there's a whole bunch of little fires all the way down that apparently is very close to the high-speed rail path That would need to be nowhere near That's what I thought

06:06 And there's nothing, there's no high speed rail that's going to be running through that area for sure in Butte County. Yeah. Come on. I'm just telling you that's the theory out there. Thank you for... There's no high speed rail running through Malibu that I know of. No. No, the whole thing is that I saw that too. We had one of our, one of our producers send it around. Exactly. Exactly. I looked at it and said, this is bull crap. Have to, I mean, it's just like really out there. Yeah. Yeah, but it's this is cleared up then by the way for those of you are wondering why it sounds a little bit different today is because I'm on location and I think we've gotten pretty sweet. Well. We've gotten pretty spoiled by both having a Gigabit between our two stations. It just sounds so much better when we're both on gigabits Limited certain parts of the world yeah, I have gigabit there. No. I've got I've got total crap in that same little area. I'm sorry I

07:06 You're always in that same little area of Holland, some ritzy little area where all the rich people are. Yes, yes I am, but I'm not in the facility that I've been able to use previously, which was fantastic, which is an actual studio with a better connection than here, like a business level connection I guess they have. So I'm just, I'm staying with a buddy. The reason I'm here by the way, since you didn't ask, is because I was invited to come do a bar mitzvah. So I got a ticket and I wanted to see my daughter anyway, and I figured what a great time to be over here Just because I was so sick and tired of the US

CHAPTER 02 / 31 Discussion

Sinterklaas Tradition, Black Pete Controversy in the Netherlands

The arrival of Sinterklaas in the Netherlands from Spain has reignited the annual debate over the "Black Pete" (Zwarte Piet) character. Despite international criticism regarding the use of blackface, the Dutch High Court recently ruled that the tradition is a cultural practice and not inherently racist. Protests continue in cities like Amsterdam as the country navigates its evolving multicultural identity.

netherlands· sinterklaas· black pete· amsterdam· racism· dutch high court

07:45 media blaring the same crap at me and at least now I'm fresh here to... Now you're getting the US media blurring the same crap at you through the European media. Well of course the big news here today is Brexit which I have a bit of a report on but I do need to give you some important Netherlands updates since Today, we had the good holy man Sinterklaas, the Dutch version of Santa Claus, came in from Spain on his steamship. Was he bringing his buddies with him? He has his black Pete's as there was a court ruling yesterday, or the day before yesterday, that said no problem, the Pete's can be black, bring them on.

08:32 So that is a... So you have a bunch of people in blackface. Yes, we have people in blackface. It's not quite the same here in the Netherlands that they don't know the blackface culture. But of course you have so many different cultures now in the Netherlands, certainly in Amsterdam, that it's confusing a lot of people. And so I don't know if there were any fights or any protests that I've seen yet, but... There were some protests it seems to me. I'm sure there was something. Well, I have a question then about the Black Petes. I think I ask this every year but I have a short memory. Why don't they just use black people? There are black people in Holland.

09:10 I'm not so sure that they don't use black people. Even if they have black people, they'll still put the big red lips on and the curly hair and the hat and the whole garb, which can always still be seen as racist. You think? Yeah, I don't think that... Well, you know, it's... Look, the Dutch High Court determined it was okay, it's not racist, it's the culture and go ahead as... proceed as planned. So what about the European Criminal Court? Can't they go after Holland? No, I'm sure they will. So well, that's this has all been a you know, a UN. I know I know I'm just kidding. But here's the crazy thing that's going on in Amsterdam. And this is very disturbing. You know, we have there's a new mayor, Femke Halsema. She's from the Green Left Party. She used to be yes, called GroenLinks, Green Left. So they're they represent left.

CHAPTER 03 / 31 Discussion

Amsterdam Mayor Femke Halsema, Removal of I Amsterdam Sign

Amsterdam Mayor Femke Halsema, representing the Green Left party (GroenLinks), has overseen the removal of the iconic "I Amsterdam" sign from the Rijksmuseum. The city government argued the slogan was too individualistic and that the space should reflect solidarity and collectivism instead. Critics of the move suggest the removal of the major tourist attraction creates a negative atmosphere in the city.

amsterdam· femke halsema· groenlinks· i amsterdam· collectivism· tourism

10:06 wing ideas, like the Greens, they finally left. Now it's Green Left, so the Green Left Party, they're left of center and they stand for all things green. And she used to be, she has quite a long career in Dutch politics in Parliament. And now she is in charge of Amsterdam, which is falling apart. The police... She's the mayor? Yes, she's the mayor. New mayor. Okay. The police can't even... they don't even do anything with stuff happening in the city, with the tourists just going wild. Because even if they say something, they get beat up and they're afraid. The cops are actually afraid to do anything. The tourists have been beating up cops? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Especially the Brits. When you got a big... The Brits are the worst. When they're in Amsterdam, they are, yeah. They get really drunk, really high, really loud, really obnoxious and violent. Not all of them, of course.

11:04 It comes to Zephyr by the way, just for your information. All right, foam. Go on. All right, so if you, I don't know, when's the last time you were in Amsterdam? I don't know how long ago this was, but in front of the Rijksmuseum. It was a while back, probably four or five years ago. Well, here's a little test. There's an iconic piece of artwork in Amsterdam, right in front of the Rijksmuseum. People love taking pictures in front of it. Are you familiar with what this is? Is it the boy peeing or is it? No, that's Brussels not even close. Keep trying. It's the big I Amsterdam logo. You've seen this. Yes, I have. It's I and then

11:50 The A and the M is in red and then Sterdam and it's I Amsterdam. I am Amsterdam is the idea. And people whenever they, especially now these days, it's been around for, I don't know, it's been here for years and years. People come in, they're like, oh, we love this, want to get a picture taken in front of it. It's fantastic. It's a big, big tourist attraction. But our mayor here in Amsterdam, said, uh, this has to go because I, Amsterdam, is only individualistic and we want solidarity in our city. And it, as of last week, as of last week, it is gone, John. It is gone. They removed it. Wow. Can you believe that?

12:36 Yeah, yeah, they removed the piece of art because it doesn't indicate enough communism. Yeah, solid—no, literally it was, I, Amsterdam is too individualistic, we need solidarity, and so this has to go. And they voted and it's gone. It's collectivism. Collectivism, there you go. That's the word we're looking for. Shocking though to me, shocking. It's just insane. That is nuts. Yeah. Yeah. Well, this is just a tourist attraction thing. Yeah, it actually was a marketing. It was well, people are taking their, but we there is there's signage in China.

13:16 That I've got a kick out of notice this across from Taiwan this area of China has this big giant sign things like 10 stories high sending some message to Taiwan one nation you know. Something kind of thing and it's a big giant red sign and it's all lit up at night so you can actually see it from Taiwan Mm-hmm, but you have binoculars. All right, and people just flock to this thing. They have their picture taken in front of it Yeah, people like stuff like that. Yeah, so they would like something like that the the art in front of the museum and then they just now they're denied it and it's not like less tourists are going to come yeah, I

13:57 It's not like less tourists are going to come to Amsterdam because the sign isn't here. No, but they're going to be bummed out if they want to have their picture taken by the sign. They're going to be depressed. It's going to make it a negative vibe in the city. Yes. Generally speaking, it's going to be contagious and then pretty soon they'll be burning down the place. It doesn't take much. Could happen any minute now. Alright, so on the TV here for the week, it's been one message before even we knew there was a Brexit deal. The message was everybody you got to get ready for Brexit, particularly if you're doing business with the UK. You've got to get your IT systems ready for customs that you'll be paying and get ready, get ready. And everyone's going, we don't know what to do.

CHAPTER 04 / 31 Discussion

Brexit Withdrawal Agreement, UK Cabinet Resignations

Prime Minister Theresa May faced a wave of high-profile resignations, including Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab and Work and Pensions Secretary Esther McVey, following the release of the 585-page draft withdrawal agreement. The deal proposes a "backstop" to prevent a hard border in Ireland, potentially keeping the UK in a customs relationship with the EU. Hardline Brexiteers argue the terms surrender British sovereignty to the European Court of Justice.

brexit· theresa may· dominic raab· esther mcvey· european court of justice· customs union

14:43 What exactly was in to do is nothing to get ready for they really don't know here's here's the reporting from this morning as as the brexit deal became known and of course the first The first party members and the cabinet members I think started to resign welcome back to the program this morning resign It's lovely to have you with us Well, I think the report will tell us. Yeah, Bell, we only had a short ad break there but already Theresa May has lost another cabinet secretary of state. This is Esther McVey, the Work and Pension Secretary. I've been saying on air for the last 24 hours she was the most likely person to quit

15:42 from cabinet. She is a strong Brexiteer. She's also in domestic trouble with a policy called universal credit here, so that is a nice time for her to resign in protest. And she's just tweeted out a two-page letter. I've just been scanning through it here. Very similar to that of Dominic Raab, who obviously the Brexit Secretary quit in the last hour as well. She says that the deal that was put before Cabinet does not honour the result of the referendum. Indeed, it doesn't meet the test you set out from the outset of your premiership. She then goes on to talk about what we won't have control of, about the 39 billion we'll have to pay the EU to get out. And she says it also threatens the integrity of the United Kingdom, which as a unionist is a risk I cannot take. She then goes a little bit on the attack of the Prime Minister, something that Dominic Raab didn't do. She says we have gone from no deal is better than a bad deal to any deal is better than no deal. I cannot defend this.

16:40 and I cannot vote for this deal. I could not look my constituents in the eye to do that. I therefore have no alternative but to resign from the government." She talks about her time in the Work and Pensions Department, but then finishes by saying, in politics you have to be true to the public and also true to yourself. Had I stayed in the government and supported this deal with the EU, I wouldn't be doing that. So here's the Brexiteers not liking the deal. It's more than 500 pages. Of course, I started to read it. I don't expect to have any kind of analysis, well, hopefully by Sunday. It's a little different than US legislation, so I'm just kind of plowing through it. But here's a

17:22 a one and a half minute summary which is kind of what you'd expect. Here is the 585 page Brexit withdrawal agreement which will seal the terms of the UK's divorce from the EU. A few things jump out. They have managed to solve that problem of having an insurance policy to prevent a hard border on the island of Ireland if the future trading relationship doesn't solve that problem. If it was used, it would see Northern Ireland staying in the EU's customs union but simultaneously being part of a new UK-wide customs relationship with the rest of the EU.

17:57 If that came into force, it would come with strings attached. The UK would have to sign up to several areas of EU law, perhaps environment protection, social protection and how the government would intervene to help companies, so-called state aid. There's going to be quite a complicated system for solving disputes that arise as a result of this treaty with lots of committees. One of them will be an independent arbitration panel made up of independent people, but they will have the power to refer matters related to EU law to the European Court of Justice. So the ECJ will have a role in this in the years to come. It's all wrapped up in lots of very optimistic language.

18:37 about both sides using their best endeavours to negotiate a permanent future relationship and to act in good faith at all times. Also, that post-Brexit transition period which is due to end currently in December 2020 could be extended once, although the document doesn't say until when. And my personal favourite, the tricky issue that was left right to the end, what to do about protecting EU regional products from specific places like Parma ham, gorgonzola, feta cheese. The UK has signed up to the EU's proposal that protection for those products is written into British law.

CHAPTER 05 / 31 Discussion

Nigel Farage, Brexit Negotiations Criticism

Nigel Farage and other critics have characterized Theresa May's Brexit deal as a surrender to Brussels, with some labeling the proposed status a "slave state." Comparisons are made to a football player dropping the ball before the goal line, suggesting Farage and other leaders failed to secure a clean break. Discrepancies in reporting regarding the "divorce bill" suggest the UK could pay up to $80 billion over several decades.

nigel farage· brexit· theresa may· brussels· european union· divorce bill

19:18 It just doesn't sound like a great deal to me except that last bit is probably what most of it is about, protectionism of cheese. You know, it's a little different in the report. I have a PBS report we can play. But the 39 billion, according to PBS, is 80 billion and it's 80 billion a year. And we got none of this information about all these guys quitting left and right. But let's play Brexit Update PBS. In the European Union, when it comes to divorce, as is always the case, the hardest negotiations can be over property, money and the children. And cheese. And so it is with Brexit.

19:54 A divorce where there's not only two sides, but the British family is fighting within itself. Prime Minister Theresa May is proposing a kind of divorce with a transition period of remaining friends. You know what I just noticed? I'm no longer hearing the D word here when it comes to Brexit. This divorce thing? They're past that or when, I mean of course, you know, we don't live here, but I don't hear this divorce anymore. And we heard that for a long time. Or maybe it's just the US way of looking at it. It's the best deal possible. The choice was this deal which enables us to take back control and to build a brighter future for our country, all going back to square one with more division, more uncertainty and a failure to deliver on the referendum.

20:38 On property, the sticking point has been the border between Northern Ireland, part of the UK, and the Republic of Ireland, a separate country that's part of the EU. Today, cars can pass easily because there's effectively no border. The Brexit agreement prevents the return of a hard border by temporarily keeping Northern Ireland inside the EU customs union, avoiding customs checks between Northern Ireland and Ireland. On money, Britain would continue to pay the EU as much as $80 billion for decades. And as for the children, British citizens living in the EU and EU citizens living in Britain, they would maintain current residence and social security rights. This morning in Parliament, May presented the deal as the kind of divorce mandated by the Brexit referendum. We will take back control of our money, laws and borders. We will deliver Brexit and the United Kingdom is leaving the European Union on the 29th of March 2019.

21:34 But May's critics from her own party say the break isn't hard enough. Leading Brexit proponent Jacob Rees-Mogg wants a divorce that's a cleaner split. She hasn't so much struck a deal as surrendered to Brussels and given in to them on everything that they want and tried to frustrate Brexit that it is not so much the vassal state anymore as the slave state. A slave! Very nice. We've changed from a vassal state to a slave state. Yeah, good work. It's a Hail Mary as far as I'm concerned. It doesn't seem actually, you know, of course since Nigel Farage he screwed it up by bowing out and kind of backing off after he led this whole You know, he basically dropped the ball. He dropped the ball. He dropped the ball. He dropped the ball, but he did know what happened was

22:18 It's like one of those guys, you know, we've seen on American football. You'll see this once in a while There's a guy's wide open as a receiver and he's running. He got the ball. There's nobody around him and he's gonna run 40 to 40 50 60 yards to the end zone and as he's running because he's a cocky son of a bitch starts high step and literally before he crosses the end zone line Yeah, this happens at least once or twice a year now just imagine it just imagine that guy with bad teeth and that's Farage. I So you imagine Farage running down the field and now he's prematurely celebrating and casually drops the ball because he thinks it's cool. But it's before he got to the goal line. That's what Farage has done. I'm very disappointed in him. Yeah, well he tried to redeem himself in the European Parliament and we always love listening to Nigel, especially in this case, Angelo was there.

CHAPTER 06 / 31 Discussion

Angela Merkel, European Union Army Proposal

German Chancellor Angela Merkel joined French President Emmanuel Macron in calling for the creation of a "real European army" to protect the continent. This vision for a militarized European Union drew sharp criticism from Donald Trump regarding NATO funding and from Nigel Farage, who confronted Merkel in the European Parliament. Farage argued that Merkel’s immigration policies and the push for a European empire have made Brexit a necessity for British liberation.

angela merkel· emmanuel macron· eu army· nato· nigel farage· militarization

23:12 Angela Merkel, and as you know, there's a—we'll probably have some clips for that, too, for later or whatever—regarding the weaponization of the United States of Europe. I have a clip. Let's do that, and then we can do Farage. Where's your weaponization clip? It probably says Merkel and the EU army. That would be exactly the one. Here we go. And German Chancellor Angela Merkel called Tuesday for the future development of a European Union military. We have made a lot of progress in the area. I think she said, we made a big fart. Did she say we made a big fart? Yes, that's exactly what she said. For the future development of a European Union military.

23:56 We have made a lot of progress in the area of structural military cooperation. That's good and is mostly supported here. But we should—and I'm saying this also because of developments in recent years—we should work on a vision of one day establishing a real European army. Bachelet's statements echoed a vision recently expressed by French President Emmanuel Macron, President Trump, Macron during a tweetstorm Tuesday following his tense visit to Paris for armistice commemoration events over the weekend. Trump wrote, "'Emmanuel Macron suggests building its own army to protect Europe against the U.S., China and Russia,' but it was Germany in World Wars I and II. How did that work out for France? They were starting to learn German in Paris before the U.S. came along. Pay for NATO or not,' Trump tweeted."

24:48 There was a number of reasons he was so rude about that, but let's listen to Farage as he directly addresses Merkel, who's just sitting there scowling. And, well, here's what he had to say. Mrs. Merkel, many of my Eurosceptic colleagues have been booing you this morning, but they shouldn't be in a way, because the British should be cheering you. Without you, we'd never have made it over the line with Brexit, and I want to thank you very much for that. And of course, many of these Eurosceptic groups on the right, the centre and the left, will come back here after the next European elections in huge numbers, directly as a result of your immigration and asylum policy.

25:26 Your we can cope led to a huge migrant tide, indeed a stampede that came across the Mediterranean. Young men coming from very different cultures who were not going to integrate. Young men none of whom would have qualified as being genuine refugees and I think in many ways We looked at it in the referendum and we said we don't want to be part of an increasingly German dominated European Union and we certainly don't want to pay the price for Mrs Merkel's errors. And I believe having heard you today and listening to senior French politicians over the last couple of days that for us leaving the European Union is now indeed a liberation. It's a European Union that we're told is now to become an empire.

26:12 a militarized European Union, an undemocratic European Union, a European Union that seeks to continually expand to the East, a European Union that has launched a new Cold War against the United States of America, a European Union that tries to rewrite history. And I think a hundred years on from the armistice We should be genuinely worried. The idea that this new militarized union is somehow a recipe for peace, I suggest you all sit back and think a little bit more carefully. Maybe you should all re-read history. The European project was set up to stop German domination. What you've seen today is a naked takeover bid.

27:03 So I think Brexit becomes a necessity after this. And for the rest of the countries, Mrs Merkel, you've had a long, successful career. But... But your political decision to open up the doors unconditionally is the worst decision we've seen in post-war politics in Europe. Is it not time for you at last to admit that you were wrong? Is it not time for you to say to German communities and many others, I'm sorry for what I've done to you and the problems I've inflicted upon you for many decades to come? There you go. Minor redemption. Minor redemption. So that parliament there is just a bunch of people complaining. Oh, they have no power. No powers. They just get to talk so many... I guess they get so many minutes a month, like 10, something like that. It's not a lot. And Farage gets to go up and do his normal thing. I'll tell you, I follow one... He does a great job of it, but... I follow one Dutch Euro Parliamentarian

CHAPTER 07 / 31 Discussion

Armistice Day Centenary, Paris Ceremony Production Issues

The 100th anniversary of the Armistice in Paris was marked by production failures and diplomatic friction. World leaders, including Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin, arrived late, while the ceremony featured empty chairs and technical issues with Emmanuel Macron's microphone. Observers criticized the inclusion of elements like Mandarin-speaking teenagers and African singers as being disconnected from the historical significance of World War I.

armistice day· paris· emmanuel macron· vladimir putin· donald trump· yo-yo ma

28:11 on Twitter, Marijke Schoutjes, whatever her name is. But all I see her doing is, she's on Twitter all day. Just on Twitter all day commenting on Trump. She's like, well hopefully we never have this here, you know, stuff like that. Pay attention to him. We don't want that here. Stuff like that all day all day. She's just tweeting like, you know, and of course I want to I want to tweet and said go do something else but I usually wind up erasing the tweet before I send it. It's very smart. I think yes, and we had the just a quick review of the armistice. There's a lot of things that happen at this armistice event and one of our producers was boots on the ground. He gave us a little rundown of did you see that his rundown of

29:01 of the whole ceremony? No, I missed it. This is producer Bob. He just did bullet points. I'll just share them. Trump was hating the ceremony with good reason, but the two-way arm slap with Putin was interesting. Macron? He said the whole thing was really a third-rate production. First of all, Trump and Putin were late, so they missed the 11 a.m. event. So they were both late, so we know what was going on there. Democron's mic didn't work. They had to get a backup handheld. Yo-Yo Ma played two songs. Meanwhile, the background of the main shot had empty chairs. Now it wasn't drizzling, but still, you know, you got a worldwide audience. What are people thinking?

29:42 They don't have any production here. Brought in some singer from Africa. They played the bolero. I mean all things which really have nothing to do with Europe or armistice. You know if you're producing this sort of thing you hire people to sit in those empty seats. Of course you do. Of course you do. Or you remove the seats. You get a bunch of people that have signs called you know blacks for Trump. That's what you know that's what you want. Well that's yeah that'd be cool. There was... You can remove the seats too. ...a couple of teenagers speaking at the ceremony, one of which spoke in Mandarin, again kind of unclear as to why. Macron's... What does that got to do with World War I? No, no! But it's New World Order, man. It has nothing to do with that. It's just, let's see, it's multi-culti. No nations, no borders. Everyone's welcome. Macron's speech went on for 19 minutes. It was apparently pretty boring and all the world leaders were just standing there. It was cold. They were getting wet. They found everyone looked pretty miserable.

30:40 Let's see, what else did we have? Band, Royal Family. One of them should have had. There's a thing you can buy. Usually I have one of them. I bought it in Arizona during kind of the spring. practice for the baseball teams. It's and I think one of them should have been wearing this you may have seen him it's like a hat but it's I mean it fits like a hat but it's actually a small umbrella with all kinds of colors on it. Yes. Trump would look great in that. I think Trump would look great in that. So we had this fracas where Macron

CHAPTER 08 / 31 Discussion

Nationalism vs Patriotism, Macron and Trudeau Speeches

During the Paris Peace Forum, Emmanuel Macron and Justin Trudeau delivered speeches condemning nationalism as the "exact opposite" of patriotism. Trudeau specifically targeted populism and attacks on the media, indirectly referencing Donald Trump's rhetoric. The definitions of these terms have become a central point of political contention, with leaders using the 100-year anniversary of the Great War to warn against "old demons" rising in modern democracy.

emmanuel macron· justin trudeau· nationalism· patriotism· populism· fake news

31:20 you know, just like what happened here in the States, went out of his way to say nationalism is the exact opposite of patriotism. And there was a couple of slights that I don't think, did you hear about what Trudeau said about nationalism? Probably didn't get any airplay over there. No, no, no, no. Okay, so here's a report from The National and Well actually it's interesting, everyone translated what Macron said differently. I don't know if it makes that much difference but here it is. French President Emmanuel Macron reminded his fellow leaders of the horrendous cost of war and he warned of what he called old demons rising to the surface.

32:02 and the exact opposite of nationalism. Nationalism is the opposite of patriotism. What I thought was interesting is he actually said patriotism is the opposite of nationalism. Yet everyone translated it as nationalism is the opposite of patriotism. It may seem minor, but I don't think it is. Or am I just ant-fucking on this? You might be. You might be. It's also, you know, the way things are structured in French, you can maybe, you could flop things around a little bit. I just found it interesting. Yeah. Anyway, let's continue.

32:46 Nationalism is the opposite of patriotism, Macron said. When we say our interests first, who cares about the others? We erase what a nation holds dearest, its moral values. Macron's message was delivered in front of Donald Trump, a self-described nationalist and champion of America first. The US president was listening just steps away, but if he was offended it didn't show. And Macron was not alone in his warning. If a democracy is to function you need to have an educated populace and you need to have an informed populace. Well that wouldn't be America boy. Justin Trudeau spoke after getting there. Not gonna happen anywhere. Not gonna happen anywhere. Actually that's nowhere. A ceremony at the Paris Peace Forum organized to mark this 100 year anniversary.

33:36 Trudeau called out those in power who attack the media. You gotta guess who he's talking about. Saying that can only weaken democracy. When people feel their institutions can't protect them, they look for easy answers in populism, in nationalism, in closing borders. in shutting down trade. He's wrong. Look for easy answers in podcasting. Thank you very much. That's where it's easy. They look for easy answers in populism, in nationalism, in closing borders, in shutting down trade.

34:19 in xenophobia. Trudeau didn't mention any politicians by name, but Russian President Vladimir Putin, who Trudeau sat next to at the peace forum, has been accused of using social media to foster confusion and influence elections. Trudeau never mentioned Donald Trump either, but the US president routinely calls the media enemies of the people and has a habit of labeling any story he doesn't like fake news. Trump wasn't there to hear Trudeau anyways. He skipped the peace forum altogether. In Canada, is it okay to say anyways? Is that Canadian English? Well, let me think. Anyways.

CHAPTER 09 / 31 Discussion

Etymology of Nationalism, Historical Context and Dictionaries

A debate has emerged regarding the linguistic hijacking of the word "nationalism," which historically shared a definition with "patriotism." While modern political discourse links nationalism to the rise of Nazi Germany in the 1920s and 30s, historical figures like Charles de Gaulle were considered nationalists without the same negative connotations. Critics argue the term is being weaponized by the media to imply white supremacy when used by Donald Trump.

nationalism· patriotism· dictionary· nazi germany· charles de gaulle· trump

35:06 I just found it just kind of odd. Anyways, anyways, maybe it's okay there. But I did, I have been asking around here. Hey, hey, hey, hey, I've been asking around and I said, you know, do you here in Holland, do you force this as a country that was devastated by the Nazis? Is nationalism bad here? And pretty much everyone says, yeah, it's bad. It's not a good thing to be calling yourself a nationalist. And to me, I just find it rather odd that here we are, probably the past 70, 80 years, nationalism has been defined in every dictionary I've looked at online. As patriotism. As patriotism. So why didn't we change that in the dictionary? I mean, it's okay, the word gay has changed. This is hijacking the language.

35:59 But when did the hijack take place? I don't know when it was hijacked, but that word was hijacked. Probably, well, you know, they would blame, you know, that you could see the interpretation, well, the Nazis. Well, yes, of course. The Nazis, Mussolini, I mean, the Japanese, I don't know. But if you look up the word gay in the dictionary, which has really only meant homosexual in the past, what, 30 years? I don't remember when it began, but it just took off. Yeah, but not 70 years. And it used to use homosexual men and women. Yes, but that's in the dictionary as an alternative description. For nationalists and nationalism, there is no description of it being the opposite of patriotism. In fact, the first description of every dictionary I could find is it is the same as patriotism.

36:53 Well, the gay definition, if you looked at a dictionary from the 1920s, wouldn't have homosexuality as an alternative. But it does today. It didn't appear as one, and thus, since it did appear at some point as one, because that's the way dictionaries work, the nationalism thing has to appear as one eventually in one of the dictionaries, and it'll take off, and then pretty soon nationalism will be a bad word. I think it should be word of the year. I do have a description from Jim Kessler who's this third way as some think tank I guess he's a VP of policy anyway he was on on Tucker I cut Tucker out

37:35 because it just annoys me to hear him. And so I put together his definition of nationalism. I mean, of course a leader is going to put the interests of their own country ahead of others. That's not nationalism. Nationalism is a loaded term. I mean, the definition of patriotism is I love my country and nationalism is I hate your country. I couldn't find that in any dictionary. Just one. He's making it up as he goes along. The definition of nationalism, especially when you're in the European context where President Trump made that statement. Is the nationalism that engulfed Europe in the 1920s and 1930s. The Nationalist Socialist Workers Party, that's the end for Nazi. Ronald Reagan never used the term nationalist. He used the term patriotism. And especially Donald Trump is using this as a weapon. So certainly in the European context everyone knows that nationalism is what led to the rise of Nazi Germany. And look, of course you want your leaders to put

38:32 Is that true? Is it truly nationalism that led to the rise of Nazi Germany? I think the interpretation can be made. It's just an interpretation of what led to the rise of Nazi Germany. A lot of people would say it was the economic conditions and it was also the way they were treated after World War I. Was Charles de Gaulle a nationalist? Yeah, I would say to the max. Is he seen as a horrible man? Only by people who work with him. So certainly in the European context, everyone knows that nationalism is what led to the rise of Nazi Germany. And look, of course you want your leaders to put the interests of your nation ahead of others. That's what nationalism is not that. Oops.

39:28 Wow, good guess. Isn't that great? Let's hear that one again. Everyone knows that nationalism is what led to the rise of Nazi Germany and look, of course you want your leaders to put the interests of your nation ahead of others. That's what nationalism is. Nationalism is not that. Nationalism is basically saying our country is always right, there are other countries they are always wrong, and it is to separate us from other countries and he is using that term as a weapon because that word is now a loaded term based on what happened in the 1920s and 30s, and you know it. I would love to see that in the dictionary. It means that you love your country and other countries are wrong. That would be a great definition if we put it in there. That's the way he used it. And I do want to mention that. Well, everybody, well, at least people who study the Trump's, the way Trump operates. Yeah, he's doing it on purpose. Of course he is.

40:24 Yeah, what else is new? Nothing else is new. I was gonna say something. Oh, I was gonna say that— Get back to your thought. You were talking about this guy in the dictionary. Well, here's my thought for a second. That everyone's falling over Trump's purposeful use of the word nationalist and, you know, so we know why he said it, but we also know why he said it, because he wanted to call out all the white nationalists, which by the way, the French weren't talking about that. No one was talking about, you know, nationalists being a racist thing. See, in the States, it was a dog whistle to the KKK. But over here, true or not, that was exactly what was said. Oh, we all know. I'm not arguing with you. Yeah, but over in Europe, it's like, well, no, he's a Nazi. It's not the same thing.

CHAPTER 10 / 31 Discussion

Nancy Pelosi, House Speaker Leadership Challenge

Nancy Pelosi faces an internal challenge for the Speakership of the House from a faction of insurgent Democrats and incoming freshmen. Representative Marsha Fudge has emerged as a potential alternative candidate, supported by those seeking more diversity in leadership. While Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has participated in protests against the current leadership, Pelosi's reputation as a formidable political operator suggests a difficult path for the challengers.

nancy pelosi· alexandria ocasio-cortez· marsha fudge· house of representatives· democrats

41:16 But when Trump did his inauguration, his inaugural address, he used the word patriot and patriotism. And what did the press say about that? Dark speech. Very dark, dark speech indeed. A bad day for America. Because he used patriotism. I remember it. I remember the dark speech thing too. Yeah. So he uses nationalism to jack him up. Yeah, well it worked. Which means of course white nationalism, which of course means white supremacy. Yes. Which means the man. That's right. That's right. Well, that is causing a lot of interesting problems in the United States with, you know, they don't know what to do because the Democrats took over the House with more than enough seats to say they won. And so Pelosi's back in play. Yeah. Now, has this happened yet? Has we, is she speaker of the House? It's ongoing. There's two steps. First, Pelosi has to take almost all the party.

42:16 Because she has to take over as Speaker of the House, the whole House votes. the other party in power will vote for somebody that's not going to win, you know, who's a Republican. Well, hold on a second. Hold on a second. That's, I mean, Trump said he would get extra votes for her from the Republican side if she needed it. But what I'm seeing over here at least is there's a faction of mainly I see AOC, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez walking around demonstrating and she's a real troublemaker. Well, she's going to find herself screwed by Nancy Pelosi. Everybody in California knows about Nancy Pelosi. She is a hard ass, really old-fashioned politico.

43:06 And the story Mimi knows a couple of these stories and she says that Pelosi's one of her tricks is that she's very personal She always acts kind of dumb. She's a little bit like that mobster who claimed to be insane while he was running that Genovese or one of the other families in New York and Staggered around in his underwear. Oh, I remember that the old guy the Don. Yeah, I remember I remember and 80s wasn't it 80s in New York? Yeah, I remember that So Pelosi gets people in her office and she's very personable, I guess she's a charmer, and she gets people to talk, and then she gets anything that she can on them and then she uses it against them as blackmail. So she's like a real hard-ass type who does it, you wouldn't know it. But these people are walking in, it's all these newbies coming in, and it's also being led by this Marsha Fudge.

44:03 Fudge, who Marcia Fudge, we've talked to her about her before. She's a congresswoman from Ohio. She's kind of in the Maxine Waters Jackson. What's her name? Jackson, the wing of the party. But she's got to interact together a little more in terms of her. She doesn't say crazy stuff. At least I haven't found anything. But let's play a clip of Marcia Fudge and what where we're headed. Representative Marsha Fudge. I would say this is we tout diversity in this party. There's no diversity in our leadership. I mean if we're going to talk about it, we're gonna talk the talk. We need to walk the walk. Got some diversity. And here's Dejardins on Pelosi with Kicker. Oh this is from PBS?

44:56 Yes. She does not have that right now. In particular, 10 of the new freshmen who arrived today campaigned saying that they would vote no, would not support Nancy Pelosi. And there's another two dozen who haven't said which way they would go. So there's an insurgent group of Democrats who have put out a letter trying to get enough signatures to show that Nancy Pelosi can't cross that threshold in January. But we haven't seen the letter yet. It's not clear who their chosen candidate would be to replace her. Late today, Ohio Representative Marsha Fudge, who you heard from in our report, said she might consider running herself, but a lot of questions about that. Well, we did hear from some of the new and the former members or longtime members.

45:36 just now in your report, but you've also been talking to other folks. I want to ask you what they're saying and the who. I mean, who would it be if it's not Nancy Pelosi? You just mentioned Marsha Fudge, but who else? Well, this group of insurgents says that they would like it to be either a woman or a person of color. And that's one reason Marsha Fudge is a top candidate because she represents both of those groups. Both! Woo! Wait, is she gay? That would be even better. It's clear who else would be in the mix. I think she had a really important group to watch is this new group of freshmen. This is a tricky position for them. They campaigned on bringing fresh ideas, new blood to the Capitol, and here they are faced with a Democratic leadership team that has been in office for 10 to 15 years.

46:16 Do they oppose them? Do they not? I will say this, it was interesting Judy, meeting these new freshmen today, they are one of the most self-possessed and strong group of new members I've ever met. It's remarkable, especially because so many are first-time candidates. Self-possessed is the term she used. Self-possessed. Which I think means that, I think it actually, what it means is really super confident, overconfident. Which I think that means they're full of themselves, which doesn't surprise me. Yeah, they're self-obsessed, of course. What I was reading is that Ocasio-Cortez is one of at least 10, but maybe more, maybe 14 Democrats who are trying to block Pelosi's appointment or election within the House as Speaker. And so she's going to find herself in a world of hurt. I don't think she has any. I like that she's doing it. I think that she's at least staying true to her message.

CHAPTER 11 / 31 Discussion

Green New Deal, Climate Protests in Pelosi's Office

Police arrested 51 youth climate activists from the Sunrise Movement during a sit-in at Nancy Pelosi’s office to demand a "Green New Deal." Representative-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez joined the protesters, advocating for a transition to 100% renewable energy. The activists cited the California wildfires as evidence of an urgent climate crisis, while legal battles over federal fossil fuel emissions continue in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.

green new deal· alexandria ocasio-cortez· nancy pelosi· sunrise movement· climate change

47:16 Watch out You don't cross Nancy Pelosi And do well if you do you better you know if you're gonna go after you're gonna take the knives out you better finish the job Yeah, exactly if you're gonna pull out the man you gotta pull the trigger. Yeah, I would say There was also a big protest. I don't have a clip of it, but I do have a clip. Yeah, yeah, it was the... That was her again. Climate change protest was in the Pelosi office. Listen to this. This is, by the way, there's a piece of... There's a woman in here that comes on and I had to take her segment because she's so hard to understand because it was poorly mic'd and I compressed it a little bit and kind of boosted it. But you have to listen to this. This is the woman that kind of one of the spokeswomen. And if you could see it,

48:01 She is clinically, I'm not a psychiatrist, but she looks nuts. I'm sorry. And it's too bad you can't see the visual of this. Okay, I'm closing my eyes though. Is there anyone that I can visualize to help? You know that woman that was in the middle of the street in the green thing screaming no no no Trump Trump Trump? Okay, we got it. On Capitol Hill police arrested 51 youth climate activists Tuesday as they held a non-violent sit-in protest out inside the office of House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi demanding a Green New Deal and

48:47 urgent action on climate change. Oh yeah, it's the Green New Deal. That's what she's pushing. I've been reading about it. And I should mention this. This was targeted at Pelosi for no real reason I could tell. She's all been for all this stuff. I think it's part of this movement to get her kicked out. And they all had very newly printed t-shirts that all said the same thing. Something dumb. But it was just, you know, it was very staged. It was very organized and it was actually quite interesting to watch. The only thing I think where they screwed up was to have this spokesperson go nuts on camera. Philadelphia activist Sophia Zia of the Sunrise Movement said she's compelled to act because of the historic wildfires raging in Pelosi's home state of California.

49:35 Back in Nancy Pelosi's home state, 42 people were just burned alive by wildfires that are described as fire tsunamis that we literally do not know how to fight. And she's come to that crisis with a water gun, saying that she's going to revive a committee to talk about about evidence of climate change that maybe would have been helpful back in 1968 when Exxon first warned about climate change, but not today. Except that climate change was going to freeze in 1968, Missy. It's so, so far from what we need. New York Congressmember-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the Democratic socialist who last week became the youngest woman ever elected to Congress, joined the protest inside Pelosi's office, telling the activists she'd push for the U.S. to get to 100 percent renewable energy.

50:25 Ocasio-Cortez was on Capitol Hill for freshman congressional orientation. Today's protest came as the fate of a landmark lawsuit brought by young climate activists remains in doubt. Earlier this month, the Supreme Court allowed the case to proceed. But ruled lower courts could continue to weigh in on its fate. On Thursday, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals put a temporary stay on the case while it hears a challenge from the Trump administration. The 21 young activists launched their lawsuit under President Obama, arguing the federal government has failed to take necessary action to curtail fossil fuel emissions, violating their constitutional rights. So this is the freshman congresswoman from the 14th District in New York who

51:10 Complained bitterly she did not have any money to look for an apartment yet. She's there with t-shirts Yeah, and signs So this is an invasion of Pelosi's private space and her office No, it's not gonna be appreciated at all. There's a lot of people there was more than they arrested like 51 I think they'd charge 21 of them. There's about 200 people there. It was huge. Yeah I saw I saw some it was not covered by the mainstream media here It was only covered by democracy now, but all of this stems from and I have to look up the Sunshine Foundation whatever it was as man I got looking into that but over in Europe

CHAPTER 12 / 31 Discussion

European Climate Policy, Electric Vehicle Mandates

Following the IPCC report on global warming, European cities like Amsterdam are moving toward mandatory electric motors for all vehicles and canal boats within the next few years. Critics argue that the shift away from gas and nuclear energy toward a battery-based economy is a form of "slave control" via the electrical grid. In the Netherlands, pro-nuclear documentaries like "Pandora's Promise" have reportedly been removed from streaming platforms to align with the green agenda.

ipcc· amsterdam· electric vehicles· nuclear energy· wind power· batteries

51:49 The IPCC report, the we're dead if we don't keep it under 1.5 degrees warming by 2030, we're dead, we're just dead. And that's what Ocasio-Cortez keeps saying. We only have 12 years, 10 years really. Here in Holland in particular, the politicians have taken this and it is gospel and shit is happening fast. I mean just if you want it do you want to live in Amsterdam? You just you cannot be here anymore is unless you have a battery car that will be mandatory within the next five years. I mean it's the all the boats in the canals including the tourist boats but all but and it won't just be Amsterdam, it'll be all cities. We're talking within two years all have to have electric motors. Think about it you have

52:41 Electric motors which need to be recharged through a grid that can be shut off. If you shut off the... That's what I keep telling everybody. I can have a 55 gallon drum of gasoline in my garage if I want to. Don't pretend you don't. If I was freaked out or I could go siphon gas from a car on the side of the road. But with a gas or with these battery, this is a battery cars to me are a form of control. Slave control. Of course it is. Yeah, you can only go so far. And by the way, and by the way, Joey, let's say everything, you know, there's no more gas, no more houses being built that have gas connections. And no nuclear energy to charge everything. We can't have that. We have to use wind power. Well, here's, so of course, the nuclear energy has been pumped into the Dutch heads, the Gouda heads. It's like, this is dangerous. We don't want another Chernobyl.

53:41 It's gotten so far that one of our producers said, you remember Pandora's Promise? It was actually a CNN funded documentary. You do because Sir Atomic Rod consulted on it. I went to see it in the movie theater and it was like three people were there because there was some, you know, like the teen Sabrina, the teenage witch opened up next door and there was no one in the theater. Well, it's called Pandora's Promise and it's a bunch of former Greenpeace people who hated nuclear energy and then once they really were exposed to some science about it, they completely flipped. That movie used to be on the Dutch Netflix. It has been removed. It's gone. That's how far it's going. Yeah.

54:25 It's anyway so this yeah the IPCC machine and everything so the Green New Deal is what's happening here is a whole new economy built around batteries batteries and electricity That's the whole economy and I guess wind and solar as well to charge the batteries. But yeah, if the price of oil goes up, your cost of living goes up. But it's kind of slow. It can take a couple weeks, a month. It goes up, it goes down. But with electricity, you can just determine tomorrow. We're just going to raise the rates. Boom.

CHAPTER 13 / 31 Discussion

Dinesh D'Souza Lecture, Campus Confrontation

A confrontation occurred at a university where a protester berated an individual attempting to attend a lecture by Dinesh D'Souza. The protester used aggressive language regarding "entitled white" people and institutional racism, sexism, and homophobia. The incident highlights the extreme polarization and emotional volatility currently present in political discourse on American college campuses.

dinesh d'souza· campus protest· institutional racism· free speech· confrontation

55:03 It's completely discretionary. So yes, it's totally slave control. Well, as a control mechanism, it's much better. What you want is you don't want the gas, you want the diesel. You want the diesel vehicle and you can do anything with a diesel. Yeah, 55 gallon drum. Yeah, that will work. So I do have a crazy social justice warrior going nuts. You asked me on the other day if I could bring a couple more crazy clips. Oh, you know, Orange Man bad stuff, that kind of stuff? Yeah. You interested? Of course, this is what I like the best. This is... let me see, what... which university was it? Well, I'm just gonna go out on a limb and say it was in California, just a guess. And Dinesh D'Souza was doing a speech. As you know, Dinesh D'Souza, a very dangerous man.

55:56 Troublemaker. Troublemaker for sure, but very very dangerous man, and I think we could put him in the Nazi category. Could we put him in the racist category even though he's brown, but can we put him in the racist category? Can we just put him in all of those categories if you feel like it? I mean, I'm not gonna object to it. Here is someone who was going to see the speech a Honestly if I were to draw a perfect white Republican guy, that would be the guy who's just standing there talking to this very upset man white man and here's what it sounded like.

56:45 Just stay for a few more hours, slide back out, and then learn something about not being entitled white piece of shit. Because motherfuckers like you come here and you have no idea what it's like to be gay, to be a person of color, to know what it's like to live with institutional racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia. Yeah, you idiot, do you not realize? I told you if I had chocolate milk I'd spit on you and then you'd be this little baby because that's who you kind of people are. You fucking cry about chocolate milk getting spilled on you. You had a Jewish woman arrested at Florida State. Yeah. Cry? You're the one who just threw that at my face. Yeah, because you deserve it. You deserve a lot worse.

57:34 Yeah, I'm passionate. I don't believe people should be providing heat speech that leads to mass shootings by angry white broad turner motherfuckers like you. If I was your boss, I would kill myself. What was he yelling at? Just some guy who was just saying, hey, I'm just going to go in and watch this lecture. And this guy is just railing on him. And who? To this other, this Republican looking guy who just wants to go in and listen to the speech. He's just some random guy, he's screaming out like this? Well, we don't see the setup of course of what happened, but the confrontation is this guy's going in and this guy is basically saying you can't go in there. You're talking about your amygdala problem. This is bad. This guy's out of control, he needs to seek therapy. He does and he's also- He has to be put on meds. It's like he's not already.

CHAPTER 14 / 31 Discussion

Isabella Chau, UC Berkeley Student Government Controversy

UC Berkeley student senator Isabella Chau faced intense backlash and calls for resignation after abstaining from a vote to denounce a proposed Trump administration memo on Title IX. Chau cited her Christian faith as the reason for her abstention regarding the definition of gender and sex. The subsequent student government meeting involved over 100 public comments, with some students labeling Christianity as "toxic" and accusing Chau of bigotry.

isabella chau· uc berkeley· title ix· christianity· lgbtq· asuc

58:30 Yeah, geez Wow. Yes, it's very very and there was something that happened in your neck of the woods at Berkeley. This is a this was a very Upsetting affair for the students of Berkeley and it's I have a report and then I think I can explain a little bit. This is by the way is only about student The student Congress and so I guess they all pretend like they have government at school and they have senators I wasn't aware of this The Associated Students University of Kentucky ASUK. Yeah. What's it called?

59:08 AISAC. AISAC, okay. Well, Senator Chow, who is an elected senator at the school, is an, she's Asian-American and she's Christian. And with this whole, and they had five hours of people yelling about her because she has to be denounced and she needs to resign. And the reason... Why does she need to be denounced? I will tell you. When Barack Obama was president, he sent a letter. It was a, I think it's a friend of the court letter, maybe. I don't know if it was a friend of the court, but a friend of something letter regarding Title IX.

59:48 And Title IX is very, very simple. It says any school in the United States that has any type of federal funding may not discriminate based on sex. And what the Obama administration did is they wrote a letter and the letter said, by the way, sex and gender are interchangeable. That's how you should interpret Title IX, and this is how we got the bathroom issue. because you could then identify as a woman and go to the female bathroom. And so they changed the interpretation. They didn't change the Title IX, didn't change the Civil Rights Act, which is what Title IX is a part of. They just said this is how you interpret it. There is an understanding that the Trump administration wants to

1:00:40 send their own letter and say, no, gender is not the same as sex and sex is determined at birth or pre-birth and it comes right down to chromosomes. And what was expected is that the entire student government denounced, that's really what was the denounce, denounced that memo which has not been published, which is, you know, it's not, there's no law, it's just interpretation. But everyone has to yell and scream about that and she said, look, I have to be true to my faith? I am Christian, so I believe that there's man and a woman, and that is the only two types of sex you have. And I'm going to abstain from voting against this. So she has to be denounced just for abstaining? Yes, abstaining. Abstaining.

1:01:32 And it got heated. What was interesting about this, and I'll just play a little bit of this clip, I think in like 40 seconds or something. So this is a big room and there's speaker after speaker. They had a hundred different speakers all bitching and moaning about this. The kids in the auditorium, there's some applauding going on, but in general, they're all finger snapping. It's just finger snaps, which I know you kind of like because, you know, You were a cool man. Makes you take you back to the 50s when it was bongo time. Exactly. Trans people are under attack. Queer people are under attack.

1:02:15 Say no fight back. Last week's Senate agenda appeared to be business as usual, but this week's meeting was anything but normal. After making anti-LGBTQ plus statements. So an anti so she's being accused of making anti LGBTQ plus statements by not by abstaining from a vote. That's why she's being accused of being anti- Where did you get this clip? This is Cal TV. This is Berkeley's own on-campus TV station. Wow, oh yeah, fine. To be business as usual, but this week's meeting was anything but normal. After making anti-LGBTQ plus statements last week, ASUC Senator Isabella Chau met with backlash. It was standing room only in the Senate chambers. Supporters of Chau and a vast majority of protesters spoke. ASUC tells us that over 100 public comments were made in the span of three hours.

1:03:16 Then maybe the senator who is sitting here right now too can as well. We should not be the only ones demanding for your peer who has said these things going against the ASUC constitution. I am ashamed of y'all sitting here who have not denounced her. A petition circulated prior to the meeting calling for Chau to resign. Other calls included the possibility of a recall as well as urging the ASUC to revoke sponsorship from the InterVarsity Christian Fellowship who actively supported Chau. Undergrad, grad students and even alumni took to the podium. What did she say? Alumni? Tell me it's alumni.

1:03:57 Yes, alumni. Is that what she was talking about? I don't know what the word was she said. Alumni. Alumni. Alumni. fifth Tonight is not about dismissing the Christian- Christianity as universally toxic, but about validating the experience of those at the hands of bigots who have cowardly hid behind religion to justify their actions. So, saying that this- this student, fellow student, is a coward and hi- hiding behind her religion...

1:04:47 to be a bigot. Christianity is toxic, universally toxic. Now I think he said we don't want to call it universally toxic. No I don't think he said that. Yeah he did. He said it in a way that... Yes I agree that it was purposely said that way. But wow, I mean just wow, I mean they're all plain grown-up and they're just a bunch of punks really. What do they know these children? What do they know? We're in the student government and we're gonna... Something to mock you in. Recall votes, I mean come on.

1:05:22 It's just crazy and they can't even get the acronym right. I am the only true official source of the acronym and I will give it to you again. LGBBTQQIAAPK. There's no plus. K is the last one and that stands for kink. And that is all you need to know. However, our buddy down under, Maynard, he's always sending us little cool interviews and this one actually works well for us. He interviewed Fiona Pattern who is I think she's a member of the sex party, which now is called the Reason Party. But he grabbed a hold of her and said, he asked her about the acronym. And that seems to be so common, doesn't it? Thou dost protest too much. Particularly in the religious circles, the ones that really hate the gays tend out to, well, they tend to like a bit of dick. That's right, exactly. What did Maynard just say?

CHAPTER 15 / 31 Discussion

LGBTQ+ Acronym Expansion, Rainbow Community

The ever-expanding LGBTQ+ acronym was discussed in an interview with Fiona Patten of Australia's Reason Party. Patten suggested that the complexity of the acronym has led some to adopt the term "rainbow community" or "rainbow family" to be more inclusive without adding more letters. The discussion also touched on the irony of vocal anti-gay figures often having private lives that contradict their public stances.

lgbtq· fiona patten· reason party· acronyms· rainbow community

1:04:47 to be a bigot. Christianity is toxic, universally toxic. Now I think he said we don't want to call it universally toxic. No I don't think he said that. Yeah he did. He said it in a way that... Yes I agree that it was purposely said that way. But wow, I mean just wow, I mean they're all plain grown-up and they're just a bunch of punks really. What do they know these children? What do they know? We're in the student government and we're gonna... Something to mock you in. Recall votes, I mean come on.

1:05:22 It's just crazy and they can't even get the acronym right. I am the only true official source of the acronym and I will give it to you again. LGBBTQQIAAPK. There's no plus. K is the last one and that stands for kink. And that is all you need to know. However, our buddy down under, Maynard, he's always sending us little cool interviews and this one actually works well for us. He interviewed Fiona Pattern who is I think she's a member of the sex party, which now is called the Reason Party. But he grabbed a hold of her and said, he asked her about the acronym. And that seems to be so common, doesn't it? Thou dost protest too much. Particularly in the religious circles, the ones that really hate the gays tend out to, well, they tend to like a bit of dick. That's right, exactly. What did Maynard just say?

1:06:15 What did he say? He said, the ones who are the most vocal about gays tend to like a dick. I think he said. Let's check it again. It just circles the ones that really hate the gays tend out to well they tend to like a bit of dick. That's right, exactly. Yes, I'm not gay but the guy I fuck is. Yeah. And how do you go on doing the LBGTQI, can you actually say that in one sentence? Yes. Go. LGBTIQ plus. Now, so he does put a plus at the end. Does that just include everyone else to stop adding more letters? What's the reason for that? I think we're going to come to yes, we cannot add any more letters to that acronym. In fact, I tend to just call it my rainbow community or my rainbow family. Oh, there you go. My rainbow family. I like that. Rainbow family. Yeah, some family. Thanks Maynard. Hey, by the way, just a question.

1:07:08 Seeing as there's been such controversy over the Redskins as a sports team, should we not have the same conversation about the Nationals? Well, if they're called the Nationalisms. No, they're not called the Nationalisms. Is a member of the sports team, the Nationals, a nationalist? You know, I think, well, that's just a facetious question, but I would say that if you put together a pressure group and made us stink about it using nationalism as the basis, we could probably do it. I'll bet you could get some traction. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C., which is just one of the C's in the IPCC, report to Vorak. In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry from far away.

1:07:57 Then we all ships and see the boots on the ground to feed the air the steps and water and all the dames and all the Knights out there in the morning to the troll room. Hey trolls No agenda stream calm is where you can listen live and join the troll room they always get the bat signal on Thursday and Sunday mornings a US time and thank you for being here and Keeping us live and on our toes also a big in the morning to see z in 137 he brought us the artwork for episode 1085 the title that was trans aged and And this was an interesting piece of art for two reasons. One, it was just a great piece of art with, if you recall, John, it was the multiple profile faces and the white one in the middle with the big X on the forehead. That same day that we released this, and I think Nick the Rat tweeted it, the Google homepage image was eerily similar.

CHAPTER 16 / 31 Discussion

No Agenda Art, Cesium-137 and Google Similarities

The artwork for No Agenda episode 1085, titled "Trans Aged" and created by Cesium-137, featured a distinct profile-based design that appeared eerily similar to a Google homepage image released the same day. While the coincidence was noted by the community, the hosts thanked Cesium-137 and other artists for their continued support. The art is often featured on the No Agenda Shop and the program's newsletter.

cesium-137· google· podcast art· trans aged· no agenda shop

1:07:08 Seeing as there's been such controversy over the Redskins as a sports team, should we not have the same conversation about the Nationals? Well, if they're called the Nationalisms. No, they're not called the Nationalisms. Is a member of the sports team, the Nationals, a nationalist? You know, I think, well, that's just a facetious question, but I would say that if you put together a pressure group and made us stink about it using nationalism as the basis, we could probably do it. I'll bet you could get some traction. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C., which is just one of the C's in the IPCC, report to Vorak. In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry from far away.

1:07:57 Then we all ships and see the boots on the ground to feed the air the steps and water and all the dames and all the Knights out there in the morning to the troll room. Hey trolls No agenda stream calm is where you can listen live and join the troll room they always get the bat signal on Thursday and Sunday mornings a US time and thank you for being here and Keeping us live and on our toes also a big in the morning to see z in 137 he brought us the artwork for episode 1085 the title that was trans aged and And this was an interesting piece of art for two reasons. One, it was just a great piece of art with, if you recall, John, it was the multiple profile faces and the white one in the middle with the big X on the forehead. That same day that we released this, and I think Nick the Rat tweeted it, the Google homepage image was eerily similar.

1:08:51 Do you think they stole it? No, I don't know why and it could have been the other way around maybe cesium got inspired I don't know. I don't think so. He seems not that kind of guy. No, I don't think he never gets inspired. I'm not I would never say that he had done that of course What happened here still working? Yeah, okay. Oh But it was it was uncanny. It was like wow it looks I mean it's not the same, but it's the same concept. It's very interesting and we thank Cesium-137 for that beautiful piece of art and all of our artists who diligently support the program by giving us art to choose from not just for the for the album art of the show but also for the newsletter and of course a lot of this does wind up at noagendashop.com. It's noagendaartgenerator.com. Thank you again everyone for your courage especially Cesium-137.

CHAPTER 17 / 31 Discussion

Norman Lear Center, Hollywood Health and Society Propaganda

The Hollywood Health & Society program, part of the USC Annenberg Norman Lear Center, serves as a resource for television writers to integrate specific social and health narratives into popular media. Using examples from shows like "Madam Secretary," the hosts argue that this operation functions as a propaganda machine to shape public opinion on topics ranging from nuclear disarmament to reproductive health. The center provides free consultations to ensure "accurate" information aligns with specific political spectrums.

norman lear· usc annenberg· hollywood health and society· propaganda· madam secretary

1:17:50 We hit people in the mouth Yo, okay, we took we've talked about the Lear foundation a few times. Oh, I would say we have and You have that old clip, but I I was watching somebody drew to this well hold on a second Can I just say something why don't we if I can find it here? Why don't we just play the numbers clip from Hollywood Lear? Oh?

1:18:29 It's actually the Hollywood Health and Society Lear. I can't forget what the exact name was. Yeah, it'll be in this next one. But I just want to put this in here. Wait. No, shoot. Actually, it'd be better you keep looking for it'd be better played after my clip. Okay, we'll do that. Any intro we go straight. This is a this was an introduction. They were playing a preview of a matter secretary show to a group of writers. And this was done as part of an anti new nuke, you know, unilateral disarmament operation.

1:19:06 promotion and they had the producer and they had the This is the madam. This is the madam secretary episode that we that we played the other day. This is one that was the last of all the end of season four where they were there they were gonna have a a Nuke exchange between Russia or China or something and it was gonna blow up the world And I actually have a second clip from that. But in this clip, she's doing the introductions of everything. And she goes on an exposition about the Health and Society, Hollywood Health and Society operation out of USC, which is run by the Lear Foundation. And it had all these extra details and some of these other things that make you think, what a great operation. And I just thought it was just

1:19:52 It was because it represents one specific point on the political spectrum. I think it's onerous, but they all love it. It was to forge a partnership with Hollywood Health and Society, which I think many of you know is a program of the USC Annenberg Norman Lear Center. And we did that because we knew, that's good, applause is fine. We knew that the Hollywood Health and Society Program shared our belief in the ability for popular media, television and film in particular, to shape culture and to change minds about important social issues.

1:20:31 Hollywood Health & Society serves as a free resource for writers, producers, and others in search of accurate information on health, safety, and security topics. In addition to consulting on the threat of nuclear weapons, Hollywood Health & Society also deals with a vast array of topics such as cybersecurity, clinical trials, maternal health, reproductive health, HIV, aging, chronic illness, disability, and more. Hollywood Health & Society recognizes the profound impact that entertainment media has on individual knowledge and behavior and offers several resources like consultations, in-person expert interviews, tip sheets, panel events, and screenings like this one tonight to reach the entertainment industry and the broader public with timely and important information. Yes.

1:21:31 It's got it together. You know, I wonder, recently and maybe the past month, maybe six weeks, I've been receiving emails from, it seems like, It's not really from one organization, but it's clearly someone trying to put somebody on our show. Of course, they've never listened to the No Agenda Show, so they have a list of podcasters and they'll email like, hey, you know, this is going on, this is what's happening in the gay community, and if you'd like to talk to this expert about it, we can get him on your show today, contact me. And I wonder if they're somehow maybe connected to the Lear Foundation.

1:22:11 It's happening a lot. I'm gonna start forwarding you some of these. They're very aggressive. So I couldn't find the original numbers clip, at least not on the mobile rig for some reason, but the Lear Foundation and the Norman Lear Who famously created All in the Family, which was very important for the narrative in the United States as Archie Bunker, although acted at the time as a typical blue-collar Democrat, was created as a Republican and for the nine years that show was on, pretty much longer than that pretty much cemented in the American psyche what the typical white straight old racist KKK Nazi quadroon male looked like and it's Archie Bunker and so they continue to put stuff into TV shows and movies and it's propaganda it is propaganda exactly

1:23:11 It's propaganda design and they put in a lot of movies designed to get you to think the way they want you to think. Yes, yes. Don't even and I don't even it's very effective. Yeah, it's very effective. They're very good at it. Yeah, that's why they're Everyone's loves them loves them everyone in Hollywood loves them. Of course they do but they also hand out free consultancies now if Like all of the medical, that's what they've done. I think that's really what they started doing a lot of. All of the medical shows, like everywhere from General Hospital to St. Elsewhere and whatever else we have. I don't watch that much television. They always have their experts in there to make sure that you're technically talking correctly. And then they might as well just put a couple things in there to make sure y'all understand that we're diverse here on the show. That's how it works.

CHAPTER 18 / 31 Discussion

Michael Avenatti, Domestic Violence Arrest in Los Angeles

Attorney Michael Avenatti was arrested by the LAPD on suspicion of domestic violence following an incident in Los Angeles. Avenatti, known for representing Stormy Daniels and Julie Swetnick, released a statement denying the allegations and asserting he has never struck a woman. While some media outlets linked the arrest to his opposition to Donald Trump, others suggested the incident could be a "hit job" from within the Democratic party to distance themselves from his controversial reputation.

michael avenatti· lapd· domestic violence· stormy daniels· brett kavanaugh

1:24:10 So they are, so just as an aside, this guy Avenatti was arrested. I don't know if you know if you got that. I got his statement. Well, I have a story. You got a story? Okay, let me see. What is it? Avenatti arrested. This sounds to me like a fantastic hit job. Late today, police in Los Angeles announced that they had arrested the brash attorney who was taken on President Trump. In a tweet, police said, we can confirm that today LAPD detectives arrested Michael Avenatti on suspicion of domestic violence. This is an ongoing investigation.

1:24:47 The arrests stem from an incident involving a woman. But investigators did not offer any more information about Avenatti, who took on Mr. Trump and his former personal attorney Michael Cohen in court on behalf of porn star Stormy Daniels. It has always been our intention to make sure that this case proceeded expeditiously. and that as much information as possible would be known. In her lawsuit against President Trump, Daniels alleged that she had an affair with Mr. Trump before he became president and that she was paid to keep quiet about it shortly before the 2016 election.

1:25:25 Avenatti also represented Julie Swetnick who made sexual misconduct allegations against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearing. The president fired back at Avenatti. We had another woman just reported. by a sleazebag lawyer named Abbiati. But Swetnick and Avenatti's claims were never corroborated and have now been referred to the Justice Department for an investigation. Avenatti has sought out media attention and earlier this year he traveled to Iowa to test the waters for a potential Democratic run for president in 2020. Now which, this was CBS, shame on them.

1:26:04 Shame on them. It is so obvious to see that, you know, he was very detrimental to the Kavanaugh process, that he probably ruined any chances of a blue wave for the Democrats to take over the Senate in addition to the House, if it was possible at all. But, you know, he clearly this is a hit from the left. Get this guy away from us. No one. Why do they have to spin it towards Trump? He's the best thing that ever happened for the Republicans. The Democrats. No, he's the best thing that ever happened to the Republicans. Because he screwed... He was the Democrats too. No, he was screwing the Democrats. He screwed it up. No, I'm talking about Trump. You're talking about Avenatti. I'm sorry. I'm talking about Avenatti, yes. Why doesn't CBS state the obvious that this would, you know, that

1:26:56 Clearly, you don't know the obvious and you're talking about Jeff Pegues, who's the only straight shooter on CBS and he will not veer from the, he will not veer out of the lane. He didn't really, yeah, no he won't veer out of the lane. But I have the statement, I have the statement from Avenatti, it's worth hearing. But they actually, I would say, unless that statement was not available at the time of this airing, that that would be remiss because Pegues would usually He had a piece of a clip like that. He had a little piece of it. Just a very short piece. Here's the full statement. Very brief and very succinct. First of all, I want to thank the hard-working men and women of the LAPD for their professionalism and their work today. They had no option in light of the allegations.

1:27:49 Secondly, I have never struck a woman. I never will strike a woman. I have been an advocate for women's rights my entire career and I'm going to continue to be an advocate. I am not going to be intimidated from stopping what I am doing. I am a father to two beautiful, smart daughters. I would never disrespect them by touching a woman inappropriately or striking a woman. I am looking forward to a full investigation, at which point I am confident that I will be fully exonerated. I also want to thank everyone for their support that has reached out. You know my character, you know me as a man, and I appreciate it. Thank you.

1:28:44 You know me as a man and I appreciate it. Thank you. I got daughters. That's about it. That's his excuse. But you know, the accusation is serious. The accusation is that he... There's clearly pictures supposedly, I'm just saying what's in the mill that's been floating around right wing talk shows. Supposedly there's pictures of her where there's just bashed to shit. Because apparently she took a shot at him or took a punch at him. And so she's beaten up. And he there is also supposedly him claiming that she hit me first. She hit me first. I hadn't heard that. We'll find out eventually. Yeah. But I like the way he thanks the cops for not beating the crap out of him. Right. Thanks for doing a good job. Yes. Thanks for doing a good job, guys. Exactly.

CHAPTER 19 / 31 Discussion

Amazon HQ2, New York Tax Breaks Controversy

Amazon officially announced it will split its second headquarters between Long Island City, New York, and Arlington, Virginia. New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and Mayor Bill de Blasio faced backlash for offering nearly $3 billion in tax incentives and a helipad for Jeff Bezos. State Senator Ron Kim and other progressives have criticized the deal as "corporate welfare," arguing the funds should instead be used to address student debt and infrastructure.

amazon· hq2· andrew cuomo· jeff bezos· long island city· corporate welfare

1:29:39 Let's see, a couple other things that were going... Actually, give me a little update on the... Because I've completely lost track of the elections or the vote count, I should say. What? Do we still have an issue in Florida? Yeah, Florida is still a problem. They're redoing a lot of votes in California and I don't really have an update clip. Okay. But because they're all pretty boring, the machines in Florida stopped working. Florida is just a nightmare. I do have something that's kind of an update that you need to catch up on, which is what's going on with Amazon. Ah, okay. You mean Amazon HQ2? HQ2 and a half or whatever it is. It's got two of them, you know, one in Virginia, one in New York. The New York one is backfiring as I was suspecting it would. And I want to play... Because of the tax breaks? Well, because of New York. So I have...

1:30:39 Yeah, I have a clip, an intro, and then I have this guy Kim, who's a state senator or a state assemblyman, who's going on and on about this. And then I have a third clip, which is the U.S. Congress Progressive Caucus, which is kind of a contrast to what these other clips are doing. But try Amazon intro DN. I think I have a dupe of that. We begin today's show looking at Amazon and corporate welfare. Protesters are heading to the site of Amazon's future office complex in Long Island City, New York, today to condemn the city and state governments for showering Amazon with massive tax breaks and other giveaways in order to entice the company to expand into the city.

1:31:22 On Tuesday, Amazon officially announced it would split its so-called second headquarters between New York and Arlington, Virginia, just across the river from Washington, D.C., after being offered more than $3 billion in tax breaks and other incentives. As part of the deal, New York taxpayers will even build a helipad for Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos, who is the richest man in the world. Amazon recently became the world's second US company to be valued at over $1 trillion, thanks in part to the fact that the company paid no federal taxes in 2017. Amazon also built its company in part by not collecting local sales taxes on goods sold online. I got to say two things about that. One,

1:32:11 The helipad is no big deal. Shut up. It's not a big deal. Getting it certified takes... Hey, man, he can build his own helipad then. It's not like a big, oh boy, thanks man, that's really cool you built that. Two, saying it's disingenuous for any report to focus on the fact that it's just across the river from Washington DC, where what's really going on, it is next door to Spook Central. No, they emphasize the Pentagon rather than Spook Central. Yeah, but it's Spook Central. Arlington, Virginia. No, I'm not going to argue this. This is a very poor report. Play the Amazon intro without me. I just want to explain why that's a problem because let's just presume that they're all in bed with the spooks. They probably are anyway. The amount of data, corporate data,

1:33:01 applications, online web stuff, I mean the entire commercial internet is, even we to some degree, use Amazon's infrastructure. And how fantastic it is to just, you know, people just walk across the street and walk right in and we can go look at it, we could technically look at anything we want to. That's a huge problem. I mean everything has an Amazon AWS back end somewhere. Hey man, don't you trust our government? All the way, bro. Play this Amazon intro that just says intro, because at the same time I thought it was the same clip, but this may be something else. We begin today's show looking at Amazon and corporate welfare. No, stop it. Kill it. Kill it. Kill it. The problem is I obviously screwed up. No, that's okay. Oh no, I didn't. I didn't screw it up. Move down to Cuomo and Amazon, because they have Cuomo going on and on about this. It's kind of important.

1:33:59 The largest economic development initiative that has ever been done. by the city or the state or the city and the state together. For every dollar we invest, we're going to get back about $9, give or take. Just like the Olympics. So to find the money that we need to invest in the subways, invest in schools, etc. This is a big money maker for us. It doesn't make money for the shareholders, rather it makes money for you. It costs us nothing. Nada, niente, guse. Hey, he speaks multiple languages. We make money doing this. That was Governor Andrew Cuomo who joked he even would offer to change his name if Amazon selected New York.

1:34:53 Anything else I can think of that'll get us over the top? Anything they want named Amazon, I'll change my name to Amazon Cuomo if that's what it takes. Wow! What a douchebag! Oh my goodness, he said that? Anything they want, I'll change my name! Really? I'll change my name to Amazon Cuomo. Very good. Well from now on, that's what he's known as, Amazon. Amazon Cuomo. So this guy comes on to rant about this and I thought it was kind of funny because he makes a comment that the progressive wing of the Democratic Party took over the state assembly in New York State. And then I got to put up with this. The problem that I have with it is there is a

1:35:45 There's a discrepancy with the progressives one on one hand and what they want on the other but let's play this is Kim the guy's name is Kim and he is the Senator they brought on. Yeah, first of all, I am outraged that New York under Governor Cuomo is willing to give away up to three billion dollars of taxpayers money without any consultation This isn't my money. This is you know, this is the people's money They're just willing to give it away to the richest man on the planet when we are literally sleepwalking into a supernova catastrophic financial meltdown. Did he say supernovo instead of supernova? Man, people are not good with their language no more. This isn't my money, this is the people's money that is willing to just give it away to the richest man on the planet.

1:36:34 when we are literally sleepwalking into a supernova catastrophic financial meltdown after 10 years from the last financial meltdown. More people living in debt than ever in the history of humankind as we speak right now. In New York alone, New Yorkers, we have over 1 million New Yorkers living in student debt, living with student debt, unable to pay the minimum amount, barely getting by. This is by the way is AOC Ocasio-Cortez's argument as well that we could have paid off everyone's student loan for this. Where did the student loan thing blossom? Wasn't it under Obama? I think this came, wait a minute, when the actual debt blossomed? Yeah. Yeah, I would say that's within the past ten years for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Well didn't he, yeah, no, yeah, no.

1:37:24 I believe that Elizabeth Warren, as a part of her grand scheme, I think she did something where, yes, I remember what it is, even if you go bankrupt you can't get rid of that debt. That's what it was. Good work, Obama. Is that her contribution? Yes, it is. In New York alone, New Yorkers, we have over 1 million New Yorkers living with student debt, unable to pay the minimum amount, barely getting by. But instead of bailing out the people, here in New York, our own Democratic governor is willing to give, transfer wealth out of New York and give it directly to the pockets of the richest man on the planet. That is ridiculous. And it's about time we step up as Democrats and as progressives and really put an end to corporate welfare. Well, Assemblyman, and by the way, that's total horseshit.

1:38:12 I mean it is not, they, I'm sorry, he is not, no one is, Cuomo is not literally giving the money to the richest guy in the world. That is just not true. Give it directly to the pockets of the richest man on the planet? That is ridiculous and it's about time we step up as Democrats and as progressives and really put an end to corporate welfare. Well, Assemblyman, this whole issue of how the Mayor de Blasio and the Governor negotiated this deal, as you say, in secret, and then apparently the Mayor agreed to bypass the City Council by allowing the state to be the prime mover in assembling the land and the project. Could you talk about that and what could be done at the Assembly level to challenge that? I'm introducing legislation to call back this deal.

1:39:00 under the New York state constitution actually clearly states that we're not allowed to give any corporate subsidies or money to the private sector or business or corporation. They're getting around it by working with quasi-government agencies that was designed for the last 60 years to execute this type of transfer of wealth, and we can redesign it. Because we designed it, we can redesign it to work for the people of New York. What's the point of having a majority progressive Democratic state Senate that we worked so hard for? In the state of New York, if we can't stop one man from transferring $3 billion of taxpayers' money to the richest man on this planet. There you go. That's New York thinking.

CHAPTER 20 / 31 Discussion

Amazon's Impact on Seattle, Future of Queens

The expansion of Amazon into New York and Virginia is being analyzed through the lens of its impact on Seattle, where the company grew from 18,000 to 45,000 workers. While the move is expected to modernize and revitalize areas like Queens, it also raises concerns about skyrocketing property values and the displacement of long-time residents. The "Amazon effect" is predicted to transform local neighborhoods into high-density financial districts similar to Wall Street.

amazon· seattle· queens· gentrification· employment· real estate

1:39:40 Yeah, just New York thinking and I'm reminded and I'm not taking either side on this is I do have some thoughts, but I had to first play this progressive caucus priorities that is I think I got this from PBS or it may have been Democracy Now also, but play that so just for a little backgrounder. Sorry, what was the title again? Progressive caucus priorities. Okay. Members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus held their first news conference since the midterm elections Tuesday, with the caucus expected to grow to nearly 100 members when the new Congress is seated in January. Democrats took a cooler tone when asked about plans to abolish ICE, an idea many progressive Congress members pushed earlier in the year at the height of the public outcry

1:40:31 cry over President Trump's family separation policy. Caucus co-chair Mark Pocan, who introduced a bill over the summer to do away with ICE, said abolishing ICE is still on the agenda, but that higher priorities for the caucus are health care, jobs and dealing with the culture of corruption. I like to play this culture of corruption, but Jobs is on the big three list there and they don't know how to do jobs. This guy is going on about, you know, the $3 billion giveaway and it's actually tax breaks. Well, if I may, I know I'm small, insignificant player in the universe, certainly when it comes to New York politics.

1:41:11 But I accurately predicted there would be a fantastic employment opportunity no matter where Amazon goes. And once again, I am from the future. What lies ahead for Arlington, Virginia and New York City now that they will be home to new headquarters for Amazon? One way to find out is to study the city that has been headquarters for Amazon up to now. Carolyn Adolph reports from member station KUOW in Seattle. Seattle city planners thought they'd get 18,000 workers when they signed up to put Amazon in a neighborhood north of downtown. They got 45,000 people and 6,000 dogs.

1:41:49 Six thousand dogs! And that's just the headquarters. People here cross the street in packs. And the people are dogs too! The Whole Foods at noon rivals Grand Central Station. And lunch is a huge affair. Man, who would want to live there? 6,000 dogs go to Amazon's work to work how you could twist every day into an anti dog story, but you Thank you, I was just waiting for my opportunity sir I Love dogs. It's dog owners. I have a problem with I will say that this part of Seattle that they're talking about is a

1:42:31 has really been transformed to such an extreme. It's very weird, very early in the morning or on a weekend or something, because it's like, it's very strange, like being in a financial district on a weekend, if you know what that's like. Oh yeah, like Wall Street, of course I do. Yeah, what the, it was like, it's spooky. Or like the city in London. But this, I have mixed feelings about this and I should mention what I think is that Queens is really pretty much like Oakland, or a Hayward, it's a very, it's like a, It's not suburban technically, but in some ways it is. And it's pretty shot. It's nothing like they've revitalized Brooklyn and now everything's very expensive there and Queens properties are all going to be going skyrocketing and people always get a kick out of people who

1:43:15 say, oh, geez, I got this house, but now, you know, it's I bought it for 20,000 and now it's worth $5 million. I hate these people for moving in here. Yeah. Which is a very, you know, kind of a complaint you get up in Seattle and just going to improve overall, it's going to modernize It will modernize and probably to the benefit of Queens, it will move a lot of old ladies out and it's gonna be a problem but they'll be getting some compensation I'd hope. But it's gonna be ruined and improved. You don't know what to say but it can't keep going, it can't just keep being Queens forever. I have no offense to the Queens listeners, I'm sure there's a couple, but it's just not a vibrant place.

CHAPTER 21 / 31 Discussion

Amazon Echo, Murder Investigation Evidence

A judge in New Hampshire has granted prosecutors access to recordings from an Amazon Echo smart speaker in a double murder case involving defendant Timothy Verrill. Authorities believe the device may have captured audio of the attack on Christine Sullivan in January 2017. Amazon has stated it will not release customer information without a valid legal demand, highlighting ongoing privacy concerns regarding "always-on" smart home technology.

amazon echo· alexa· privacy· murder trial· search warrant· recordings

1:44:06 It's a, you know, a town full of commuters and old old timers. I haven't been there in a long, long time, so I wouldn't know. There's no reason to go. There's no reason to go. I do have a related Amazon story, which we're kind of waiting for the for the follow up to this to get some important information. Yes. You want to say something? No. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you said Crow is flying around the house. Oh, well, he's coming for you. Millions of Americans have their... There's a murder of crows flying over the house as we speak. Okay. State prosecutors hope one of them contains crucial evidence in a double murder case. Alexa comes with a price. Timothy Verrill is accused of murdering 48-year-old Christine Sullivan and 32-year-old Jenna Pellegrini. Authorities say they were stabbed to death at this Farmington home in January of 2017.

1:45:01 As Verrill awaits trial, a judge has granted the state's request to access recordings of an Amazon Echo smart speaker which was in the kitchen at the time Christine Sullivan was killed. I think most people probably don't even realize that Alexa is taking account of what's going on in your house in addition to responding to your demands and commands. UNH law professor Albert Scher says this is becoming more common. Prosecutors believe the echo, which uses Alexa voice commands, might have recorded audio of the moment Sullivan was attacked as well as the removal of her body.

1:45:41 State police have the speaker and now the judge is telling Amazon to turn over the recordings from its server. The Attorney General's office was smart not to just say, hey we got possession of Alexa the dot so to speak. We can do whatever we want with it. They were smart to get an order from the court. Amazon says it won't release any customer information until a valid legal demand has been properly served. So of course the reason why we're watching this case is to see if there is indeed some recording that would not have been triggered necessarily by a wake word and was just there or how did it know to start recording based upon some screams or we don't really know but I'm very interested in this of course.

CHAPTER 22 / 31 Discussion

FaceFirst, Facial Recognition in Retail

Retailers are increasingly deploying FaceFirst, a facial recognition platform designed to identify shoplifters and violent criminals the moment they enter a store. The company also promotes the use of biometric data for loyalty rewards programs to entice customer participation. While marketed as a tool to reduce "shrink" and improve safety, the technology raises significant concerns regarding mass surveillance and the integration of private data with law enforcement.

facefirst· facial recognition· retail security· biometric data· shoplifting

1:46:29 Yeah, you played a similar clip last show. Oh I did. But we haven't gotten any further than that. We haven't gotten anything. I do have, and this is the yin to the yang for Amazon if we're talking about retail, there's a new network being set up, a network of retailers. Let me just get the name of this company. What are they called again? They're called Face First. Which I don't think is the best brand in the world, but it's a because you know you could interpret it many ways to face. Yes, yes, a facial recognition retail company. And they intend to use loyalty rewards to get you to use your facial, you know, your biometric data, your face. So they can scan your face for the loyalty rewards program, which I'm sure a lot... Who's going to go for this? Everybody. Are you kidding me? Oh, please. Of course, of course people will do that.

1:47:28 For free stuff? Yeah, of course they will. But the- well, actually let me play their little promo reel here. Heavily edited by me to remove stupid pauses and dumb pieces of music. What if you could stop retail crime before it happens? By knowing the moment a shoplifter enters your store. Could you avoid a potentially dangerous situation? And what if you could know about the presence of violent criminals before they act? And what if you could easily identify missing children and victims of human trafficking? With Face First, you can stop crime before it starts.

1:48:05 The world's only patented enterprise retail face recognition platform proven to radically reduce crime and perform flawlessly across thousands of locations, making it the top choice for big box stores, department stores, grocery stores, pharmacies, and other retail operations. reduced shrink, safer stores and fast ROI. All in one turnkey solution. Learn more at facefirst.com. And so the video of course is shoplifters, minority report, zoom in, rotate, enhance, match, rapist, shoplifter, thief, gangster, lost child, you know, it's all this stuff.

1:48:54 Put a timecode down, please. Okay, but they are, you know, they're using all of the retailers. They're, you know, they're collecting all of their data from all of their customers. I'm sure they're matching it with, you know, purchase data, credit card doors. It's all done for that. But then, you know, law enforcement can also find use for this stuff. Yes. So look forward to that. It's probably deployed in many places. We just don't know about it. I have not received the loyalty program request for facial recognition, though. yet. Wow, your chair really needs some oil. If you're hearing anything, it's those crows. Oh, okay. I mean, there's not as bad as it was a minute ago, but these crows

CHAPTER 23 / 31 Discussion

Facebook Stock Decline, New York Times Expose

Facebook's stock has seen a significant decline following a New York Times expose detailing the company's aggressive lobbying and opposition research tactics. The report alleges that Sheryl Sandberg oversaw a campaign to discredit critics by linking them to George Soros and using a Republican firm to deflect public anger. Despite public apologies from Mark Zuckerberg, the company faces a "brain drain" and declining user engagement as competitors like Instagram gain dominance.

facebook· mark zuckerberg· sheryl sandberg· george soros· stock market

1:49:40 I saw this murder, which a group of crows is called, yesterday over by Whole Foods. It's about a thousand of them. And I don't know what they're talking about, but they're talking amongst themselves, yes. They are. And there's a very around here where they decide to meet up once in a while and they fly over the house and they just make this horrible racket. But your problem is with crows, they're a very smart bird. You can't throw anything at them or anything because then you're screwed. They'll just crapple over your car and... Oh, they're vindictive. They're a terrible bird. They're vindictive, yeah. You have to be very friendly to crows. Just a tip for people who aren't familiar with these birds. Okay, go on, I'm sorry. There was a New York Times article, an expose about the face bag. And did you read... hopefully you read this.

1:50:37 about how the head of IT went to the board and said, hey, holy crap, I haven't been able, we still got these Russians in here, you know, this is a big problem. And she was yelling like you threw me under the bus and they used all kinds of horrible, in fact, the claim that the New York Times printed is that Facebook itself worked with a Republican I guess marketing firm and they they actually Steered people towards a fake news article Facebook did steered people towards a fake news article about Soros Funding something and they did that to isolate, you know different groups of people but they were using these actual tactics and

1:51:32 I mean, the whole article is well worth a read. And I was looking today and the stock is, you know, this stock was $218 just a month ago or maybe five weeks ago. And now it's at 143, at least last time I looked. And they're in big, big trouble. They're in big trouble. At least on the stock, you don't think so? Nah. Oh, come on. The kids are all off face back. I mean, they haven't been on face back for years. This has nothing to do with this. Well, I think it does have a lot to do with it. When you have Mark Benioff, you know, CEO of Salesforce saying Facebook is the new cigarettes. You know, I think I think that does hurt. Sounds like it would be more attractive to kids if you say something like that. It's your theory. Well, the numbers itself and there's a lot of studies have been done show that at least 45% of heavy face bag users have stopped using it or deleted the app.

1:52:34 And that is from what I understand pretty much across the board. The kids were already on on Instagram that they're already not interested in face back doesn't matter because Instagram I think is very successful. It's probably keeping the company afloat. But when you have having run a public company. When you have a stock price in decline and bad news, you get new employees who came on, their stock is way underwater, they haven't vested and they just see it's all negative, the money's negative, you get a negative vibe, you get people protesting inside, outside the company. It's not good, it's really damaging, particularly for people who were thought to be such high flyers. And I'm sure there's a brain drain, there's all kinds of things going on.

1:53:19 And then you get Wozniak, not quite sure why he weighed in on it, but he was asked about social media in general and he came up with something about Facebag in particular. Oh, I think social media is a good thing, it serves a good purpose, even Facebook. Great idea when Zuckerberg was in the dorm. This is going to get people together and they'll be able to communicate ideas that are important to them. It wasn't, he didn't sit down and say, how can we come up with something that later on we'll be able to trick everybody and make a ton of money advertising what they're what their desires and wants are. Oh no, no, I think social media has a good part. It's not right for me. In other words, it's good for some people, most people, but for me it's not because it doesn't work well for me. I'm a little bit of a quiet, shy guy. Well, you do have a Twitter handle, I noticed. I have a Twitter handle, but I never read Twitter. I never go in and actually participate on it except to share my location, something I started a long time ago with an app that was called Foursquare then, so my wife would be able to see where I am.

1:54:12 And somehow I just kept doing it out of habit. We stick to our habits better. You know if anyone wants to kidnap a wealthy guy I mean, why would he say this? This is pretty crazy. He is worth some bucks. I'll tell you one thing, the social networks become so habit-forming. I used about last year, about a year ago, I used Facebook for the first time even though I had a Facebook handle and sometimes answered people's inquiries where they saw me post where I was. I only used it for three months. I would be standing in a line at an airport and I'd start scrolling through. Look at all these posts, all these funny dog ones. I'll send them up. And I saw some of my good friends were in there. And then I thought, it's habit forming. And I don't like addictions. And I don't like things that are habit forming. And I said, wait a minute. If I've got Solitaire, I don't need Facebook. So I gave up my account. But I didn't say it's bad for other people. It's just

1:55:04 It's not good for me. It's not the right thing for me. I gave it up. Haven't missed it have felt only good since and yeah I've missed some nice, you know, good fun animal and people and animal helping animal type videos. I missed that I could go find it somewhere. What is he? He's in the animal videos? I don't know about that. It's a little odd, Woz. Let me just cite this directly from the New York Times. While Mr. Zuckerberg has conducted a public apology tour in the last year, Ms. Sandberg has overseen an aggressive lobbying campaign to combat Facebook's critics, shift public anger towards rival companies, and ward off damaging regulation. Facebook employed a Republican opposition research forum to discredit activist protesters

1:55:45 in part by linking them to the liberal financier George Soros. It also tapped its business relationships, lobbying a Jewish civil rights group to cast criticism of the company as anti-Semitic. I mean, these guys were doing some nasty stuff. You think any corporation is not doing that kind of thing constantly? Well, yes, but they're so holier than thou. Well, yeah, if you buy into it. I just think Facebook is Facebook and unless something comes along, the way Facebook came along to, I mean, first it was LiveJournal and then MySpace came along and knocked them out of the box and then Facebook came along and knocked them out of the box and I see nothing.

CHAPTER 24 / 31 Discussion

Instagram vs Facebook, Advertising and Influencers

The shift in social media dominance from Facebook to Instagram is attributed to Instagram's superior algorithm for shopping and influencer-led marketing. While Facebook remains a powerful tool for targeted advertising, Instagram has effectively become a modern "home shopping network" where users are more likely to engage with ads. Despite being owned by the same parent company, the platforms serve different psychological needs, with Instagram providing a "happier" alternative to the conflict-heavy environment of Twitter and Facebook.

instagram· facebook· advertising· influencers· home shopping network

1:56:35 that's come along that will take Facebook's place. And until that happens, what are you going to do? I think Instagram has already done it. I think Instagram has... Instagram's a different model. It works completely differently. Yes. And Instagram's owned by Facebook. I mean, they at least have a clue about that. That's okay. That's my point. I'm talking about Facebook. The product is definitely in decline in usage. Yeah. I still think it's a... Hey, you know what? You know what, John? As a publishing vehicle for targeting advertising, I don't see how anything can beat it. Okay, Instagram beats it and I would advise you buy the dip. How? Well, I think it's overpriced at this price. No kidding. It should be $15. Instagram. How does Instagram, how's Instagram more targeted? No, Instagram is incre- the ads, first of all,

1:57:33 Instagram's algorithm is really, really for shopping, for items you want to buy. There's a swipe up and it works very well. And people, if you say, have you ever clicked on an ad on the internet? No. Have you ever swiped up and clicked on something on Instagram? Yes. It's very successful in selling products, extremely successful. The algorithm, the whole... Can it sell no agenda? No. No. Why? No. This is for clothing, it's for, food for, you know, like food for the mind. Good yeah, go ahead. Go try that no. This is all about the influencers and what they're where it's it's for it's for junk It's for trinkets and shiny objects and sneakers and that kind of stuff the home shopping network. Yes Yeah, thank you. It is the home shopping network with with hosts who are not paid by the home shopping network They're either unpaid or they have you know some small deal as an influencer and

1:58:32 Yeah, I believe that to be very, very, very successful. And I think that yes, we had communities go away. We saw with AOL and GeoCities, I totally agree. But we didn't have algorithms running at the time. And this has turned people off, killed people, made them sick. But add to that a healthy dose of just bullcrap. People are looking for happier times and Instagram I believe delivers that. And Twitter is still the cesspool. I think a lot of the arguments just go on over there. You don't hear people, you don't hear the M5M referencing Facebook that much. It's like, you know, it's all tweets. Everything you see, every quote is a tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet. Not Facebag. Facebag is where you go and look at someone's profile after they've killed people.

1:59:22 Well, right. All right. Well, that's our analysis of social media. John and Adam analysis. Adam's a huge fan of Instagram, apparently that's replaced his huge fandom for Facebook. Which he's rejected out of hand. You should just stop while you're ahead because you're sounding really stupid when you do this to me. It's totally stupid what you're doing. Don't do this. Don't do this. People are interested in these things. They have an opinion about it. Well I'm interested in Facebook for advertising. Well, you know, I've heard you say this for five years. You've never bought a single ad. You know? I'm gonna show my slum by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. It's in the works. It's in the works. It's in the works. He who controls the board controls the flow. Somebody who, uh...

CHAPTER 25 / 31 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Sir Tin and Peerage Changes

Jeff Kelly was officially knighted as "Sir Tin" (referencing the chemical symbol Sn) for his contributions to the program. The ceremony included the traditional reading of the "Hookers and Flow" list and instructions for receiving a signet ring from the No Agenda Shop. Additionally, Sir Warren Carroll was promoted to Baronet, and Sir Kaz of the 33's officially simplified his title.

knighting· sir tin· jeff kelly· baronet· no agenda knights

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CHAPTER 26 / 31 Discussion

Boeing 737 Max, Lion Air Crash Investigation

The investigation into the Lion Air crash has focused on the Boeing 737 Max's automated flight control system, which can force the aircraft's nose down to avoid a stall. Pilots' unions have expressed outrage that this specific software change was not highlighted in training manuals. There are also questions regarding Boeing's decision to bring avionics development in-house after years of outsourcing to India, and whether this transition contributed to the certification oversight.

boeing· 737 max· lion air· faa· avionics· pilot training

2:15:56 I did want to catch up just briefly, an aviation related story, which I was all prepared to talk about and try and explain it, and then Stek sent me a clip this morning. I was very happy. This is regarding the Lion Air crash that happened about a week and a half ago, two weeks ago. Right. 737 stretch. Max. It's called the Max. The 737 Max. The thing with the 737... This stretch is an old reference. It's funnier. Well, there's... It was the DC-8 stretch or the 10 stretch? Yeah, it was the DC-8. That thing was grotesque. It was longer than a football field, I think. It looked weird.

2:16:39 But the Max, what's different about the Max is they have different engines and they've moved the engine a little further out on the wing. So they're also a little bit more forward by, I don't know what it is, maybe half a foot, I'm not quite sure. I've seen some overlays. And what that does is Well, they took a plane, the 737, I think the SN was the most recent one, a very stable plane, which, you know, all modern aircraft of this size have some form of additional help for controls.

2:17:15 But it kind of destabilized the airplane in a way, and gives you a little more different characteristics when you're in a certain bank. And that's purely because the engines then start to provide lift when you don't expect it. Which is all okay, because they put in some systems to combat that problem. Now it's not proven that this is what happened to that Lion Air aircraft, but here's a story that kind of explains what went wrong. Tonight top aviation experts say the Lion Air pilots may not have understood why their new 737 Max was suddenly in a nosedive or how to get out of it.

2:17:52 Investigators believe the plane's sensors or its computers had bad data suggesting a potential stall. But many veteran pilots didn't know the 737 MAX computers can force the nose down to avoid a stall even when pilots are flying manually. Boeing's operator's manual does not highlight the change. You're upset because Boeing didn't inform the pilots. Right. We were... That information was not disclosed to our company or our pilots that that system existed. Now Southwest, United and American Airlines and their pilot's unions are issuing urgent bulletins to get the word out. There is a fix. Simply flipping a switch should have turned the automatic system off. As you can see, it stopped the trim. But not knowing the problem, the Lion Air pilots appear to have continued fighting to pull the nose up.

2:18:40 Literally in a matter of seconds, I'm in a nosedive. The airplane is basically out of control. Boeing says it's working to fully understand all aspects of this incident and it's confident in the safety of the 737 Max. Meanwhile, pilots are warning each other how to recover from a potentially hidden danger. So, this is very, very bad that this happened. I'm not quite sure exactly how this could get past any kind of certification. The FAA is usually pretty good about this because if you change anything in the aircraft, it has to go into very well documented manuals. This goes into training. There's a whole, I mean, the process broke down somewhere and it's possible

2:19:23 and this is what I find interesting, July 2017 Boeing announced they were creating an in-house avionics unit reversing decades of outsourcing the avionics to India. So this would be either I don't know if they how far they got with that if they completed it But there's a changeover something changed in avionics and I think that may be to blame for the process breaking down Whether that happened because of it was done in India or was done in Seattle or whatever happened It well obviously it created a very bad day for a lot of people. Well. I've never been a fan of Indian coders racist There's nothing to do with race. They're good at designing hardware and

2:20:14 No, I'm just being hip man. I know you're not racist. I do have a report on that though from JCD working for a number he's working for these companies and one of the things he does now is hires coders and he has his list of good coders to bad coders. Ethically, I'll get that list. Yes, first of all he has a list. I love that. It's JCD's list. It's like the best code. Apparently some of the best coders are Muslims. And why is that? I have theories on that, but I'll get the whole list and we'll go through it. And then it's just for people out there, the dudes named Ben, they might want to know about this because they do a lot of hiring. A lot of them, a lot of our guys. So has he categorized it? Has he categorized by what? He's got a whole theory about it. Yeah. Well, are you going to, are you going to present that to us or is it proprietary?

2:21:12 I don't have it. I mean, I heard it a couple times. No, no, not today. I'm asking you, will you use it? Oh, yes, absolutely. Yeah. Don't take everything. You're on edge, man. This is for the benefit of our dudes named Ben who do a lot of hiring. You know, the funny thing is they probably already know all this, but... Yeah, I'm extremely interested. So my question was, is Buzzkill Jr. prepared to give up his entire research on the show or just a little bit or what can we... I'm very interested. Well, he'll give up what he wants to give up. I don't know what it is. I'll ask him. Oh, do some production. He doesn't care. I'm excited. I'm excited. I want to hear about it. Yeah, I guess you are. I have. Well, my theory is the best programmers, I don't call them coders. The best programmers are musicians. In particular, bass players seem to be extremely good at programming. That's good to know.

CHAPTER 27 / 31 Discussion

US Military Edge, Bipartisan Commission Warning

A bipartisan commission, including former CIA Deputy Director Michael Morell, issued a warning that the United States has lost its military edge and could potentially lose a conventional war against China or Russia. The report attributes this decline to 17 years of focus on counterterrorism and defense spending cuts under the Budget Control Act of 2011. Morell compared the current lack of strategic preparation to the intelligence warnings received prior to the September 11 attacks.

michael morell· cia· china· russia· defense spending· 9/11

2:22:08 I'll say we got a couple of things I want to get out of here. One, this is a report that was done passed around it showed up in the news and it was done on CBS with Jeff Glor and he brought on Our friend, the ex-CI, Morrell. Mike Morrell. And you have to, unfortunately I can't give you this, I can only tell you that Glore had the most skeptical look on his face I've ever seen him have as he tried to get through this thing, because I know he has to just read what it says. But he was like, wasn't buying any of it. And I'm not sure I'm buying much of it either. This is the military stark warning. And listen to the details, wait, listen to the details of how it's twisted at the end with some phony analogies. It's just unbelievable. We got a stark warning today. A report says that the US has lost its military edge.

2:23:03 and could lose a war against China or Russia. That is the conclusion of a bipartisan commission selected by Congress among... I'm sorry, did he say just China-Russia as like one country or China and Russia? No, China and or Russia. Either one. Oh, or Russia. Okay. And could lose a war against China or Russia. That is the conclusion of a bipartisan commission selected by Congress. Among its members is Michael Morrell, former deputy director of the CIA and current CBS News national security contributor. Michael joins us from DC tonight. So explain, how do we get to this stage, Michael? Really two main developments.

2:23:43 One abroad and then one at home. The one abroad is... We forgot about this guy, didn't we? He used to say right, right, right, right. He still says right, but now he's saying um a lot. In fact, there's so many ums in this whole report, including from Jeff, that it's like, is this even, you know, they want to throw the number 33 in while they're at it. Explain, how do we get to this stage, Michael? Really two main developments. one abroad and then one at home. The one abroad is that our main competitors, and we're really talking about China and Russia here, have for some time been investing in fighting a conventional war while we've been mired in 17 years of counterterrorism. The other is a development here at home

2:24:31 which is the budget control act of 2011 sequestration which significantly cut defense spending and put those two things together and they brought us to this place. But the US still spends 716 billion dollars a year on military. China's 175, Russia's 60. What are we doing wrong? So, our competitors have a much smaller area of the globe to worry about, right? They worry about primarily the regions in which they live, and we're talking about Russia, China, North Korea, Iran. We have to worry about the entire globe because our interests are diverse. Are you optimistic this all gets fixed? So, I'm not. I'm not. There were similar warnings in 2010.

2:25:13 Similar warnings in 2014, Jeff, by similar panels. Nothing was done. This reminds me a bit, Jeff, of all of the strategic intelligence warnings in the years before 9-11, and we all know how that story ended. All right, Michael Brown. Always appreciate your perspective. Thank you very much. Wait a minute. What happened at the end there? How did we get it to 9-11 all of a sudden, which we all know how that ended up there? What was he trying to say? Another way, I think what he's trying to say is that although he's not doing it, it's really lame. But what he wanted to say, what he wanted to say was we had all these, all these warnings before 9-11 from these different agencies, but we couldn't put two and two together. And thus we're saying we have all these warnings because this happened again in 2014. I guess they did a similar report saying that we need, you know, the, here's the military, it's a military report saying, Hey,

CHAPTER 28 / 31 Discussion

Ebola Outbreak, Democratic Republic of Congo Conflict

A new Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo is complicated by ongoing violence and the illegal extraction of minerals and timber by rebel groups. UN officials suggest that the security situation makes it nearly impossible for doctors to contain the virus without military protection. Analysts suspect the crisis may serve as a pretext for Western military intervention to counter Chinese influence in the region's lucrative mining supply chains.

ebola· drc· congo· un· chinese influence· minerals

2:26:13 We're right now we're spending more than the entire world's, every world's army put together by a lot. And we suck. And we need more money. Yes it is. Don't send water, blankets, just send your cash. We need more money. Ebola back in the news. We love Ebola. We do. And the reason why we love it is because A, we've had experimental vaccines which just disappeared from the radar and that was actually funded by the government or guarantees were given, never heard anything else about it. We had a lot of military people in West Africa when they were there to save the world and they saved us from Ebola. What if we had like 30,000 people there, some crazy amount of military.

2:26:59 And we had one guy and we were all gonna die and we watched him, the plane land and his ambulance drive to the hospital and like holy crap this guy's, you know, just everything's coming out of every orifice and And then the guy just kind of hopped out of the ambulance and walked into the hospital. It was a little bit of a letdown. But man, Ebola. And I thought we had thwarted this evil beast. And there would be no other reason to send military in anywhere for any reason except Ebola. A new cell phone, a necklace you just bought, and... Ebola you might have forgotten the name of that deadly disease, but there could know connection between the three This is the Democratic Republic of Congo in the heart of Africa remember you find a lot of the Remember we we just learned that Israel received a container ship full of oil from DRC which you still haven't figured out exactly why but they got that oil from

2:28:01 the Congo. Stop, stop, stop. You're gonna have to back that up. Did he say charcoal? I think so, let's listen. I think it's just charcoal. This is a UN guy, so I'm not gonna even think he knows what he's talking about. So I guess charcoal is some valuable diamond-like commodity as a forest burns down and they illegally smuggle out the burnt wood? Is that what he's saying? I think. Wow.

2:28:58 Charcoal it could be something else not charcoal, but charcoal is that possible is a different sure how about shark oil? Maybe you meant that Industries are after but who's in control of all that The illegal extraction of minerals, timber, charcoal and wildlife. I think he's saying something else John. He's saying something that we're hearing it raw. Shark hole. It has fooled violence in a number of regions. In the Democratic Republic of Congo, it has generated almost a billion dollars in revenue for rebels and criminal groups.

2:29:41 The country's politics has been a violent mess for over 20 years. Nowadays, a new Ebola outbreak is making things worse for locals. In only a few months, it took the lives of almost 200 people. The health ministry says they've never had to deal with outbreaks of that scale. And with armed thugs running the show in parts of the republic, doctors are losing confidence in their own efforts. I do think this is one of the challenges. We'll have to see whether we're able to contain, control, and end the current outbreak within the current security situation. After all, even the bravest doctors don't want to risk their lives when they're under a constant threat of being taken out. Now, I just got to stop it here. So...

2:30:25 Again, I don't understand we had a vaccine. It was effective. Everyone was happy. And then of course we got distracted for Zika. It was Zika for a little bit, you know, small heads that just, whoop, just kind of went away. I guess we, I guess we won that war as well. The war on Zika. No, of course not. But then, you know, uh, we had about a month, maybe, I'm thinking a month ago, there were, I think it was one of your clips. There was this weird kind of tent. Oh, the famous tents. Yeah, where you can go in and you just stick your hands through there. Yeah, so that's kind of, that's some big NGO that's doing that. So they've got NGO people running around. And you watch, the military is coming in next. That's why this is happening.

2:31:07 physically impossible to reach the affected areas unharmed. But as we've heard from the UN top man, business means money does find its way into the fighters hands. It comes out in a number of reports that are highlighted with the press on the companies that are doing little or no activity at all. There are some companies that used to report that are no longer reporting. And so there's also a reputational risk for them to be seen as laggards and not doing enough to ensure that they are not fueling any of the conflict in the DRC. Regardless, the big-name brands and the manufacturers and the companies that I would buy a cell phone or a computer or a car from do have influence

2:31:59 They're some of the richest companies in the world and they have the ability to work with their suppliers and work through their supply chain and have that assurance that they're not causing to any death or destruction or violence against people or the planet. So let's deconstruct this for a moment. The story is about Ebola. And that pretty much leads, I mean, they start off by lumping it in with diamonds and cell phone minerals that you need for a shark hole. There was a lot of different guesses for that in the troll room as you can imagine. Yeah, I'm sure none of them were accurate and Maybe it was shale oil. Maybe just came out wrong. I don't know but the story goes into there's bad people there There's no rebels. It's it's you know, but these companies are doing enough. Yeah, I think we're either going to see military go in and

2:32:57 And it's going to be under the guise of Ebola, but it's either to kick the Chinese out, which would be my first guess because they're the ones that run the show and they're also the ones that... There's no either. It's definitely to kick the Chinese out. Yeah. Okay. There's no either. What was your second guess? Just out of curiosity. Just to mess with Apple. Oh, no, I don't think so. We have other ways of messing with Apple. So yeah, so all we need now is the announcement that we're sending in troops. The question is will it be US troops? Will it be UN troops? We send the blue helmets in because you know then we can always add cholera to the mix. That's what they're good for. Real good at that. Make sure you bring your canisters of cholera with you. I am just waiting for this. Waiting for it.

CHAPTER 29 / 31 Discussion

California Mudslide Risks, Eastern US Winter Storm

While California faces the threat of mudslides following the devastating wildfires, the Eastern United States has been hit by an early winter storm. A tour bus crash in Mississippi caused by icy roads resulted in two deaths and dozens of injuries. The storm has brought freezing temperatures and sleet to the South, affecting 85 million people as the cold front moves toward the Northeast.

rain sticks· mudslides· california· winter storm· ice· mississippi

2:33:51 Yeah, it'll be interesting. So there's a big horrible eastern weather and then we have our fires and Jay says that we should do the rain sticks because of the fires in San Francisco, in the San Francisco Bay Area, or in California. Well here's the problem, I don't have a stick with me. I said that might be better because then it won't be so over, we won't overdo it. Yeah, now you give a shake. Well, hold on a second. Let's just take one thing into consideration. And by the way, you are hearing two professionals who are trained in the art of rainstick shaking. This is not this is what are you doing? I just picked it up. Let's see that you're already showing that you were a little rusty on the professionalism there. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Careful with that. He's told that I need to I need to take remedial lessons. You're shooting rain everywhere, man. Create a local microclimate.

2:34:42 These are made by Sherry in Utah and they are the real rain sticks and they have been proven to work. I doubt it. Sherry Osborne's not overboard. She's around for sure. She'll be sending you an email about it. Now here's the only thing that I'm worried about. If we shake the stick, you know that the next disaster in California will be the mudslides. And I don't necessarily know. There's going to be rain eventually. And if we don't get the rain sooner than later, the mudslides will be worse. Okay. I would say... I'm just going to do one rotation. One rotation, one revolution should be enough. Yeah. And the reason I'm saying that is because of the report you're going to play next, which is horrible Eastern weather.

2:35:38 Winter arrived early, taking a deadly toll on the South, killing two and injuring 44, some critically, on a roadside in Mississippi when this tour bus slid on an icy highway and flipped onto its sides. The Mississippi Highway Patrol says the crash was weather-related. The sneak attack of snow, sleet and freezing temperatures hit Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee and Louisiana. Southerners have rarely seen this kind of weather this early in the year. Houston saw flurries this year before Boston did. But the frigid invasion of cold air is on the march north. Over the next few days, 85 million people will be affected. Don Daly, CBS News.

2:36:22 New York. tough to operate it on ice and that I-81 corridor anywhere from portions of Pennsylvania all the way down into North Carolina and around that area of Louisville where we see that bright red color you could pick up a half an inch maybe even three quarters of an inch of ice. Wow. Ice. You know here in in the lowlands it is now halfway through November we were outside and I'm here my buddy Unico at his place

2:37:09 And it was, you know, it was like beautiful weather here. This is unheard of. It's unheard of. We would be having beautiful weather here too if it wasn't for the reverse winds and all the smoke coming down from 200 miles away. Hey, how come when we have a big disaster like a hurricane or, you know, anything like that, we always have Anderson Cooper and everyone's out there. Why did I see anyone in front of the fires? Well, there's a lot of people in front of the bars, but none of the anchors decided to come out. There's no good restaurants in the air. Okay now I understand. You've explained it perfectly. It's like a hundred miles north of Sacramento. It's like some beans. There's no good restaurants.

CHAPTER 30 / 31 Discussion

Marijuana Edibles, Toronto Police Incident

A Toronto police officer, Vittorio Dominelli, resigned and pleaded guilty after consuming marijuana edibles while on duty and calling for medical help because he "thought he was dying." The incident highlights the risks of improper dosing with edible products, which can take hours to take effect. The hosts emphasize the need for better consumer education regarding the potency and delayed onset of cannabis-infused foods.

marijuana· edibles· toronto· police· overdose· education

2:38:06 It's, you know, it's Occam's razor right there. You hear it live in action here on the No Agenda Show. A couple, just some clips just to make you smile, John. This is from our northern buddies there, Candinavia. You know, the weeds is legal up there. They're trying the weeds up there. They don't want the edibles though. Well, this is wrong. This is a story about edibles, actually. A Toronto judge called Vittorio Dominelli a complete idiot after a guilty plea in a College Park courthouse Friday. He said he and his partner Jamie Young had never tried weed before and decided to give it a go, a decision he regretted about 20 minutes later. Northbound Oakwood and Vaughan, what is going on? What do you need the ambulance for?

2:38:51 I think I'm gonna pass out. Okay, are you injured at all? Did anything happen? I'm just lightheaded. That's Dominelli using a police radio to call for help after getting so high he thought he was dying. One of the officers that rushed to the scene slipped on ice and suffered a concussion. She's still not able to work. Dominelli apologized to his family, the court, and the police. A date for sentencing will be set next week. Fantastic story. He had some edibles. I think I'm gonna die, man. Let me call HQ. We've talked about this before. We'll talk about it again as a warning to people who don't understand what's going on. Edibles, which are a great product.

2:39:35 have to be, you have to standardize yourself on them by taking, you know, if you have a little, they have these little chocolate bits and they're all packaged up individually. You could down one of those and you'd be waiting an hour, hour and a half, nothing happens, so you take another one. In fact, knowing that it's gonna take you two and a half hours for an edible to take effect, this is advice, don't even take a whole one. Take a half of one and see what happens to you. you'll find that possibly the half of a little piece after two and a half hours is more than adequate for whatever you're interested in doing, usually listening to music. Rihanna is recommended. Rihanna is a good place to start. And just saying, these guys are idiots. I don't think the packages make it clear enough. Very nice packaging, but it doesn't have any real instructions on it.

2:40:31 Yeah, for the troll room. I just want you to know that when it comes to edibles as a as a product indeed John is the authority on this I am apparently I have to be I'm authority. Yes your voice is needed It's it's very straight. Well there. There are companies that are working on making that go faster. I There are companies that are also being threatened by the government because they're taking the edibles off the market because of this problem of idiots like that guy up in Canada. It's becoming a problem for the, you know... We need an education campaign by the Lear Foundation, by the Hollywood Lear Foundation.

CHAPTER 31 / 31 Discussion

Baraboo High School, Nazi Salute Controversy

A photo of approximately 60 male students from Baraboo High School in Wisconsin giving a Nazi salute went viral, sparking international condemnation. The image, taken before a junior prom, was posted with the hashtag "Baraboo Proud." School officials and local authorities are investigating the incident, which has become a flashpoint for discussions on hate symbols and student behavior in the social media age.

baraboo· wisconsin· nazi salute· social media· viral photo

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2:41:56 Yeah, it's 33 percent. Here's I got it. Here's an offbeat clip from this that never got national attention, but I thought it had potential. This is the Baraboo High School Nazi salute. In Wisconsin, Baraboo High School has come under intense scrutiny as a photo of at least 60 male students giving the Nazi salute went viral this week. One student in the front row is seen making a white power symbol with his index finger and thumb. The photo was reportedly taken ahead of the students' junior prom last spring and was posted on a social media site with the hashtag, Baraboo Proud. She emphasizes it at the end as though that's some sort of code. What the hell is that? I mean, now what are they doing? What are these kids thinking? Just help me with that first off.

2:42:46 They're goofballs from Wisconsin and somebody thought it would be funny. They said, hey man, look, we're all white. Let's do a Nazi salute and take a picture of it and then post it, man. That'll get some big laughs. These guys are all stoners. It's those edibles. They should have just stayed home listening to Rihanna. But no, they had to go and do that. Well, thank you. That made my day. Or evening, I should say, as we're coming up on 9pm. You gonna go get something to eat? No, Unico's actually cooked something for me. Oh good. Guys' night in. Yeah, alright. Hey, I'll be here for Sunday's show as well, so I'm sure I'll have more European news rundown of what's happening here in the old country as we gear up to go to war with the United States, amongst others. Yay! Good for us.

2:43:42 Please remember us in our value for value model and support the show by going to Dvorak.org slash na And thank you all producers. Thank you troll room. Thank you back office. Thank you infrastructure etc and thank you John C. Dvorak coming to you from The loft here in London in the Netherlands get more nation lowlands in the morning everybody I'm Adam curry and from northern Silicon Valley uh... we're being invaded in the southern border but we'll talk about that in the next show. I'm John C. Duvorak. Until Sunday, adios, mofos! CNN should be ashamed of itself. That's not going to happen. Excuse me, I think you should let my brother start trying to run CNN. That's enough. That's enough. That's enough.

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2:46:24 If you don't know how to do it, I'll show you how to cook the dog. Gotta be the best recipe, yeah. Thinly sliced, flesh just see. Just like they do in the north of Korea, dog. I'm just cooking the dog. If you don't know how to do it, I'll show you how to cook the dog. Well, you mad, this is straight.

2:47:10 Right? Yeah, I'm all in. Dinner at my place.

2:47:49 As usual, it's Broward County. What's going on in Broward County? And the first time we hear Broward's election supervisors speak publicly about the medical marijuana ballot glitch. Broward got the juice. Broward's back. This tree is a reminder of the power of this tornado that touched down here at Broward College's North Campus. There's none of the ugliness that we expected about the fraud or what I call the fugazi. fraud is once again from Broward County and we're facing another election dispute focused largely on Broward County. We've been talking about this, it's hard for us in Broward County to wrap our minds around the fact that this happened in our community. The Broward County Sheriff's Office posted a new fact-checker website which it says is meant to clarify misinformation and allegations.

2:48:33 Law enforcement are finding and documenting more flak in Broward than anywhere else in the nation. Clearly this is something that has grabbed the attention of the American public. Just now, red tide is here in Broward County. We have area SWAT teams in the Broward Sheriff's Office SWAT teams clearing the entire airport. If you look at Broward County, they have had a horrible history. There are still votes to be counted here at Broward County election headquarters, but they won't say how many. Saturday in Broward County... Best podcast in the universe! MoFo. Dvorak.org slash N-A. I am really high.