Episode 1083 · Monday, 5 November 2018

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A satirical mayoral run in Austin features flamethrowers and domes while Barbra Streisand and Bill Maher process political anxiety through childhood trauma and card games.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 1083

About this episode

Austin mayoral candidate Alexander Stringer is proposing a massive dome around the city to block California refugees and the replacement of police firearms with flamethrowers. This satirical campaign, highlighted at Austin City Hall, coincides with record-breaking early voting turnout and heavy local advertising spends by Beto O'Rourke. Meanwhile, Oprah Winfrey joined Stacey Abrams in Georgia to invoke historical narratives of voter suppression, while Iowa Congressman Steve King faces a corporate funding exodus from Intel and Land O'Lakes following controversial meetings in Austria.

Barbra Streisand appeared on Bill Maher's program to promote her album Walls, claiming she suffers from Trump-induced insomnia and childhood trauma triggered by the President's rhetoric. The media landscape remains fractured as CBS News frames Republican messaging as fear tactics while ignoring the Russian SPFS alternative to the SWIFT payment network. In the tech sector, Google employees launched a global walkout over a $90 million payout to Andy Rubin, and PBS Frontline reveals Sheryl Sandberg's role in Facebook's aggressive data collection and 2010 midterm voter manipulation experiments.

John C. Dvorak details his experience with a new bionic eye following surgery, describing a visual information overload that makes reading names a challenge. Adam Curry recounts a socially awkward elevator encounter involving his hearing aids and a deaf passenger. The duo also previews an upcoming interview with Anthony Scaramucci, who expressed confusion over a Skype avatar depicting Al Gore as a raving lunatic.


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CHAPTER 02 / 57 Discussion

Alexander Stringer, Austin Mayoral Race, Flamethrower Proposal

A satirical campaign video for Austin mayoral candidate Alexander Stringer proposes building a dome around the city to keep out California refugees. Stringer suggests making Uber pay for the dome and replacing police firearms with flamethrowers to end shootings. The hosts critique the low-budget production of the video while noting its presence on official screens at City Hall.

alexander stringer· steve adler· austin· flamethrowers· california refugees

03:24 I have to say, I early voted and it was quite an experience here in Austin. Why? Well so Tina had to go to Chicago for the weekend for the week So she wouldn't be here for election day She said ah! I'm gonna vote early And before I took the airport Friday we went to the City Hall Now i've voted at this city hall before but wow The line was about an hour What?! Yeah yeah It's been that way continuously Its been very very busy And so we're standing in line. And I see on the screen, on the big telescreen this again it's in City Hall. I see the mayor talking and that sound is off but they have closed captions like what that's not really cool i mean the guys on the ballot there are other people on the ballot he got a little promo reel running here. It's illegal! It's called electioneering. They can't do that That's what I said and then of course saw the next video because it was all over candidates had little video so I'm like okay I'm kind of a douche still alright as you know

04:27 I agree it's because of sequence etc. I only saw four of the, I think we have seven candidates as you know I want Mayor Stephen Ava out He's a liar, and he has allowed all this bedlam mayhem in the streets of downtown Austin. Not doing anything for the homeless and just more of these damn scooters coming in without any proper regulation So I was already planning on voting against him And there is this woman Linda something well she's like a scientist you know she runs city... I'll vote for her She seems like the best But then the third or the fourth video comes by and on the spot, John I changed my vote for the mayor of Austin Texas because of the video i saw in city hall while i was standing there. And I agree it should actually be illegal but it worked! I cast my vote proudly for Alexander Stringer for Mayor of Austin Texas

05:25 And I would like to play a bit of his campaign video for you to understand why. The city of Austin is at a crisis and we need strong leadership now more than ever before Donald J Trump wants to build the wall around the US southern border, and I say that we can do better And that is why, as mayor I propose that we build a dome around the city of Austin in order to keep away California refugees. And we are going to make Uber pay for it! When we build the dome and kick out the Californians, Austin will once again be affordable to the locals

06:09 and we will no longer have a traffic problem. Police shootings are at an all-time high, bordering on epidemic proportions And that is why as mayor of Austin I promise to take guns away from all the police officers and replace them with flamethrowers We are going to end police shootings, and we are going to keep our city safe. I love this guy He's talking my life for the goofball candidate totally dome around Austin way flamethrowers I Like the way he puts a little tweeting birds in no no he's outside That it's it's so low that's not sweet, and that's no John John if you saw the video It's done on like an iPhone

06:56 It's he standing outside in front of City Hall. It's real I mean, it's just listen to the wind noise and then next piece furthermore as a former substitute teacher in the Austin Independent School District there is nothing that I care more about than the safety of our children And that is why We are giving flamethrowers to the teachers as well in the past five years I'm telling you the guy's on something put a dome around Austin and give everybody a flamethrower that deserves my vote. Well Might as well vote Alexander stringer for me mayor of Austin, Texas Yeah might as well for sure

CHAPTER 03 / 57 Discussion

CBS News, Midterm Election Rhetoric, Fear Tactics

CBS News coverage of the 2018 midterm elections is analyzed for its framing of Republican messaging as "fear tactics." The hosts argue that mainstream media outlets predominantly promote Democratic candidates while painting Donald Trump's anti-immigration rhetoric as a psychological ploy. They contrast this with the lack of competitive races in California compared to the high volume of ballot propositions.

cbs news· donald trump· midterms· immigration· fear tactics

07:43 So, uh. That guy's so mega man! Well let's listen to the yeah...so let's listen to the ramped-to-the elections that was I found on CBS and when it has all its Would the CBS, you know all these networks they try to... Ah this is their overnight 24-7 operation. No this is the network, this is an internet operation Oh yes okay I know what it is And this one of their main anchors and she's kind of quite You know, at the end of this whole thing they try to stay objective but it sneaks in. The Republicans are selling fear! Fear as if the Democrats would come out and say oh the end of democracy we're all gonna die that's not fear

08:32 That's hope. Anyway, so let's play a ramp to election CBS and round up one final sprint ahead of Tuesdays midterms and both parties are bringing out their heavy hitters President Trump crisscrossing the country this weekend hoping to give an edge to Republican candidates in Montana on Saturday the president ramped up his anti-immigration rhetoric and fear tactics And what is it? What fair tactic your tactics? Oh yeah well very good Yeah, very good. Oh beautiful yeah I mean well of course they I mean I should just stop for a second for people not in America What happens here around our election time this is everyone just goes ape shit And there's nothing else that's happening in the world on care what you say it's all about this and in this case Probably I would say 90%

09:25 is all promoting a Democratic candidate and saying Donald Trump is horrible, and fear. And then you have Fox and what else do we have on TV that really that is more right? Nothing really. But yeah they're doing the same about the Democrats being crazy... The thing that's noticeable I don't know if you have it there but here It's mostly propositions because we don't have any, I mean there are people running against each other but you have nothing for the guy running for Governor Cox. This guy is keeping the money I guess so they're just going to give it crown Gavin Newsom as the governor which is probably okay because he's kind of a do-nothing guy so he might be good governor by not doing anything

CHAPTER 04 / 57 Discussion

Beto O'Rourke, Campaign Spending, Austin Advertising

Beto O'Rourke's campaign is criticized for spending large sums of money on advertisements in Austin, a city where he already has high support. The hosts compare this to government agencies spending their entire budgets to avoid future cuts. They suggest the $69 million budget is being exhausted through unnecessary local media buys.

beto o'rourke· campaign finance· austin· advertising budget· texas

10:12 But it's ad after ad after and I was watching the series where they had yes on 10 no on 10. Yes, on 10 one at after another proposition. Yes No, yes, no, yes, no. It's like holy mackerel these networks or the stations are just rolling in dough Oh yeah, it's fantastic. I mean we're even seeing a lot of Beto advertisements which... why advertise that in Austin? That doesn't seem necessary but they're doing it. It makes no sense They are just throwing their money away So meanwhile Chris we were gonna stay on this ramp start so... Just throwing the money you understand that if Beto does not spend all 69 million dollars the next time it comes around You gotta spend the budget and say ah wasn't enough

11:00 So they're just, what the fuck? Let's do some in Austin. Let's just get rid of the money." Yeah I agree this is almost like government work where you know if you don't get your budget up to par it's going to be cut back. Gotta spend it gotta spend it oh we had to spend it we need more we spent it all we need more yeah that's the classic but so meanwhile CBS if they're gonna balance their reporting with the fear-mongering uh they did a good job here because as we go on to ramp two You get to hear ludicrous, it's almost like Joe Biden I guess was struck. Oh! I have a clip. Let's play Gramp 2 and you'll hear some of it. Okay well then I don't have that much of a clip. And fear tactics. Democrat Party wants to sign illegal aliens up for free health care, free welfare, free education... Wooo! ...and what do they really want? The right to vote

CHAPTER 05 / 57 Discussion

Joe Biden, Laryngitis, Migrant Caravan Coverage

Joe Biden and Barack Obama are noted for losing their voices while campaigning for Democrats in Ohio and other states. CBSN contributor Sabrina Siddiqi discusses how Republicans are focusing on the migrant caravan from Central America rather than the 2017 tax cuts. The hosts argue that the media is whipsawing the public with conflicting narratives about the caravan's threat level.

joe biden· sherrod brown· migrant caravan· barack obama· cbsn

12:00 Because they figure that's the way they stay in office forever. In Ohio, former Vice President Joe Biden participated in an Ohio Democratic Party get out the vote rally with Senator Sherrod Brown and Ohio gubernatorial nominee Richard Cordray with a hoarse voice he expressed importance of voting on Tuesday. The only thing strong enough to tear America apart is America We've seen it start, and we gotta stop it. I am not your father, Luke. Right now! That's what Tuesday is all about. So in conclusion we Democrats have to make it clear who we are. We choose hope over fear. We choose unity over division. We choose our allies over our enemies And we choose truth over lies

13:02 Sabrina Siddiqi is a CBSN political contributor and political reporter at The Guardian. Okay, just before she goes on to that here's the quick clip I had of Biden presented as it named illness Joe Biden, even with laryngitis lending his voice to Democrats as they attempt to take control of the House and Senate. You know who else was walking around with a hoarse voice? It was Obama! He's also losing his voice you see... They're like we can do this, we can do the Trump thing, just yell and scream and they can't

13:41 They're losing their voices, they're literally losing their voices over trying to imitate his animation or whatever they feel is necessary and they just can't do it. Truth over lies! Sabrina Siddiqi is a CBSN political contributor and political reporter at The Guardian. Okay home stretch Sabrina what are really the closing arguments in this strategy that both sides are trying to make at this point? Well I think its been striking to see the way in which the president Republicans have really leaned on this migrant caravan trying to frame this as an immigration crisis when of course you have had migrants fleeing poverty and violence in Central America dating back to 2014. Frankly, President Obama dealt with a surge on unaccompanied minors during the 2014 midterms so that was very political issue but it speaks to the fact that Republicans are really not running on the tax cuts they enacted last year because those are not very popular with American publics.

14:35 hoping that perhaps fear might drive their base to the polls. You know, the messaging that I saw continuously over the weekend was why isn't he running on the economy? That makes so much sense! He's doing good! He should run on the economy! No no has to be fear has to be fear and then downplaying this caravan with these exact same people maybe two weeks ago like oh there's thousands coming and now it was like Oh Trumps afraid of moms and strollers and it's idiotic. People who watch too much of this they go crazy yeah it's a whipsaw, its very difficult to stay sane I mean I smoke a lot of weed and I do this show so

CHAPTER 06 / 57 Discussion

Sabrina Siddiqi, Blitzkrieg Reference, Republican Senate Strategy

Sabrina Siddiqi of The Guardian is highlighted for using the word "blitz" to describe Donald Trump's campaign schedule, which the hosts interpret as a subtle Nazi comparison. The discussion covers the Republican strategy of focusing on Senate races in red states like Florida rather than competitive House districts. The hosts praise Siddiqi's professional delivery despite her perceived bias.

sabrina siddiqi· the guardian· blitzkrieg· house of representatives· florida

15:16 I'm good, but it's very confusing for people. Not healthy not healthy Well, he doesn't help when you have the Guardian and the you know these same newspapers with really Analysis that's me the Guardian meddling in our in our elections Yeah, go away exactly UK spy rag Democrats by contrast, they're obviously making this about being much bigger than just this particular moment. It's about President Trump and this being a referendum on his tenure in office and really the future of the country and what their country's identity looks like When you look at President Trump's final schedule, the blitz that he sort of... different stops that he is making. What do you read from his campaigns? You mean Blitz like Blitzkrieg or what? She said if you notice it, you have to go back and listen carefully because I didn't notice it the first when we actually initially clipped him then I heard her say, ah! She knows, you know, blitz is like implying he's Hitler

16:11 So she says blitz and then she's really good. I like this woman, she's a very good news reader. She caught herself but you didn't catch yourself like an Amy Goodman or somebody would just blah blah blah blah and flub. She caught herself smoothly and smoothly corrected it in such a way that I don't think... You'd have to listen to this thing over and over again to catch the whole moment where she uses blitz. Yeah, yeah. I get it.

17:00 It was smooth. She's good, she is very good at this. She is good, she's very good. Blitzkrieg! When you look at President Trump's final schedule the blitz that he sort of different stops that he's making what do you read from his campaign schedule? Well, he really isn't spending a lot of time in the very competitive House districts. And it almost speaks to this sense that Republicans believe the House has already been lost. Now that may not well be the case come Tuesday but he's spending a lot more time in these red states where perhaps they have a better chance at keeping the Senate as well as some of these competitive gubernatorial elections so you saw him just the other day in Florida were issues such as immigration and attempts by the Republican candidate there to link immigrants to crime. That's also been a very prevalent issue

CHAPTER 07 / 57 Discussion

Dana Milbank, Washington Post, Ham-Handed Etymology

Dana Milbank's Washington Post column criticizing Donald Trump's record is deconstructed, with the hosts labeling several points as lies or misinterpretations. During the critique, a tangent explores the etymology of the term "ham-handed" and "hamming it up," tracing it back to minstrel show actors using ham fat to remove blackface. The hosts also dispute the characterization of the travel ban as a "Muslim ban."

dana milbank· washington post· charlottesville· muslim ban· ham actor

17:45 I like the way she slips in, hey they're trying to link immigrants into crime and ignoring any MS-13 implications or anything. You might actually be able to do that? The Washington Post's Dana Milbank wrote a column, boy is it Friday or Saturday... And the Washington Post has very strict paywall and this one is completely outside of the paywall so they wanted everybody to read it. They've noticed this a lot because I won't pay for any of these jemokes I got no, I just go from browser to browser. There's all kinds of ways around a freedom controller does it seamlessly Then he and he posted a Trump rotation because this is what we get here in America during elections then everyone does their best column ball This'll flip it watch my column be the tipping point where we take back house So the title of this is we have no excuses now our eyes are wide open And I just I just want to I mean

18:41 I mean, he gives us 20 paragraphs here. Now all Americans have seen the results with their own eyes. Trump defended neo-Nazis who marched in Charlottesville. He oversaw a policy... That's a lie! Oh yeah, oh no that look you just go lie or you give me whatever it just one word for each paragraph okay? Trump defended Neo Nazis who marched in Charlottesville Lie he oversaw policies separating young children from their parents and warehoused the kids at the border including some who've yet to be reunited Kind of a lie. I like warehouse though, I think warehouse is a good word. That's great yeah. Amazon warehouse like Amazon we get them with robots this your kid now put it back he took Vladimir Putin's word over that of the US intelligence community accepting Russia's denial that had interfered in our election

19:30 It's true. He implemented a ham-handed attempt at a Muslim ban, a travel ban that caused chaos and in its early incarnations was struck down as unconstitutional! It wasn't a Muslim ban it's lie And by the way I learned something about ham now ham handed you know... Well it is ham fisted and ham hammered. Right do you know where hamming it up comes from? Well, that's a good question. I happen to know! I was just reading it yesterday and that's why it jumped out at me whether intentional or not. You got a ham actor? That's right. Ham actors were low-grade actors who performed in blackface and used ham fat to get the black face off they were known as hamming it up doing the little old minstrel show. Ham actors...I don't know if its intentional but I kind of thought it was interesting that came in here

20:28 Yeah, who knew right? We should have known. He challenged the legitimacy of a so-called judge who temporarily blocked the ban! I don't think he challenged the legitimacy. I don't know if that's exactly what he did, so i put that halfway. He swung erratically from the verge of nuclear war with North Korea threatening fire and fury the likes of which the world has never seen before to declare he had fallen in love with dictator Kim Jong-un and pronounce the nuclear threat ended though no agreement had been reached. Wow... That is just a misinterpretation! That's actually shameful it is kind of

CHAPTER 08 / 57 Discussion

Bill Maher, Gaza Strip Comparison, Rock Throwing

Bill Maher is criticized for exaggerating Donald Trump's comments regarding the military's response to rock-throwing migrants. Maher compared the potential border situation to the Gaza Strip, suggesting the U.S. would fire on people with rocks. The hosts argue that the media frequently takes Trump's implications to an extreme level to create "dead body" narratives.

bill maher· gaza strip· migrant caravan· rocks· military

21:08 He fired the FBI. I want to point this out, the media and here we are going as Trump we have to do the Trump what are we? Trump apologists of course. The media keeps talking about Trump lies, Trump lies, Trump lies but they're the ones who lie constantly! Well let me play a clip from Bill Maher's show which was fantastic uh and he threw out one of the biggest lies really in abstraction. Trump said There was a quote of him saying, hey the military should treat all these kids throwing rocks, these caravan hoolums as if they have rifles. And that made it big oh my god are they going to shoot at them? But here's how Bill Maher translates that into his show

21:56 I guess my question is when you get to the point when you're saying we should fire on people with rocks. He took that a little further than I think he did in his original statement. He didn't say it, but he implied it and said something or two different things but anytime Trump implies something they take it to the next level listen to the whole thing so I guess my question is when you get to the point, when you're saying we should fire on people with rocks. Rocks? He wants to turn us into the Gaza Strip? Yeah. Oh! Where they throw a rock

22:35 And we fire upon them, and then we have dead bodies? It's just... it's stretching the truth a little bit. But this was a great episode and I'm gonna- here's one more quickie before i get to the headliner One more quickie Well I still want to finish my little bit here Oh then do that! Then I'll go back, I'm sorry Yeah, I want to finish with that. Because they got one more little... Oh yes! More of the ramp up because they got three clips i wanna play from Amy and Democracy Now. This is one of the reasons why I watch her show because there's stuff that she talks about that nobody talks about so it gives me some insight but my kicker here is The Truth Will Win Out

CHAPTER 09 / 57 Discussion

Oprah Winfrey, Stacey Abrams, Georgia Gubernatorial Race

Oprah Winfrey joined Stacey Abrams on the campaign trail in Marietta, Georgia, invoking the history of lynchings and voter suppression. While Oprah denied she was testing the waters for a presidential run, the hosts remain skeptical of her long-term political ambitions. They suggest Abrams' success in the race is heavily dependent on Oprah's celebrity endorsement.

oprah winfrey· stacey abrams· georgia· marietta· lynchings

23:15 The true attitude of the elitist progressives in this country will be revealed at the end of these two clips. Let's start with Oprah campaigning in Georgia. Yo! In election news, Oprah Winfrey joined Democratic gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams on a campaign trail in Marietta, Georgia Thursday days before the midterm elections and one of the country's most talked about races. Today because of the men and because of the women who were lynched who were humiliated, who were discriminated against. Who were suppressed, who were repressed and oppressed for the right for the equality at the polls and I want you to know that their blood has seeped into my DNA and I refuse

24:08 to let their sacrifices be in vain. Oprah also told Crown she's not hitting the campaign trail to test the waters for her own political run Bull crap! No, I think she's too smart...I really don't think she's gonna do anything like that She is definitely out there...I dunno you know people get weird ideas it could happen I wouldn't be surprised, I wouldn't be shocked let's put it that way. Oh no it wouldn't be a shock but she is too smart She does this...that was 52 seconds that whole bit It was those pro you know Stacey Abrams probably isn't going to win that Without Oprah's help But then she decides to switch over and talk about Stephen King

CHAPTER 10 / 57 Discussion

Steve King, Des Moines Ambush, Corporate Funding

Iowa Congressman Steve King clashed with a student in Des Moines who attempted to link King's ideology to the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter, Robert Bowers. Following reports of King meeting with a far-right group in Austria, major corporate sponsors including Intel and Land O'Lakes announced they would no longer fund his campaign. The hosts analyze the media's focus on King as an attempt to flip a traditionally Republican district.

steve king· des moines· robert bowers· intel· land o'lakes

24:55 But Steve King is the guy in Iowa who they think they can beat. And so they dedicate and she's been smearing him on every single show. What is this? What is the smear topic? What are they saying? The smear topic, he's a Nazi! Oh okay well hey... Is he white?! Of course. Okay, he's a white nationalist Nazi and he went to Austria and met with some of the conservatives. Oh! With another Nazi? Yeah because everyone in Austria is a Nazi but some kid comes in and ambushes him at some Some and he does a poor job of it. I thought and King spots him and makes a fuss But they me thought this was worth playing so she goes in our in 32 hour I'm sorry one minute thirty two second might as well be an hour one minute thirty two seconds for this bit Which is very long for her pieces there's usually

25:43 sharp little bang, bang, bang news items. But not when you're smearing Republicans. So let's play this back in the United States. Iowa Republican Congress member Steve King lashed out at a college student at a campaign event in Des Moines, Iowa Thursday for asking about how Kings personal beliefs line up with those of the Pittsburgh shooter Robert Bowers You and the shooter both share an ideology that is fundamentally anti-immigration. Do not associate me with that shooter! I knew you were an ambusher when you walked in the room, but there's no basis for that... Just as an aside, I saw this clip too of Steve King doing this, and the title of the YouTube video was

26:26 King slaps down libs hard. I'm like no not really it wasn't that Did you have the same title? All right, yeah, did not really associate me with that shooter I knew your an ambush when he walked in the road but there's no basis for that and you get no questions, you get no answers. No, you're done! You don't play these games here, doc. No, you're done. You crossed the line it is not tolerable to accuse me of being associated with a guy who shot 11 people in Pittsburgh I am a person who has viewed Israel from the beginning and to the length of that nation is the length of my life

27:02 That was Iowa State University student Caleb Van Fossen. He also tried to ask Congressmember Steve King about his recent trip to Austria, where King met with an Austrian neo-Nazi group earlier this week—the head of the National Republican Congressional— Why doesn't she mention the name of the Nazi group? Was she saying Neo or Nazi? She said neo-Nazi. Why not mention it was just the the president's party over there. It was one of the parties over there with an Austrian neo-nazi group Earlier this week, the head of the National Republican Congressional Committee Blasted King for his white supremacist ties and corporate supporters of king including Intel Land O'Lakes and Purina Petty

27:47 care, announced they would no longer fund King's campaigns. Oh man! King is up for re-election as polling just one point ahead of his Democratic challenger J.D. Scholten in a district that Trump won in 2016 by 27 percent margin. Blue Wave! This is one congressman out of, you know... Blue Wave! ...but she's focusing on him because they think they can knock him off. The Blue Wave? And he is an important guy but the funny thing was in this was that these two segments between Oprah who is in Georgia for Stacey Abrams and Steve King who's in Iowa

CHAPTER 11 / 57 Discussion

Amy Goodman, Republic of Georgia, Democracy Now

A production error on Democracy Now! is mocked where a segue about Oprah Winfrey in Georgia was followed by a comment about being "back in the United States" when moving to a story in Iowa. The hosts joke that Amy Goodman and her staff view the state of Georgia as a foreign country or the Republic of Georgia. They cite this as evidence of the "elitism" inherent in progressive media production.

amy goodman· democracy now· georgia· republic of georgia· elitism

28:27 had a very interesting segue, which I thought revealed and you'll hear it because i have it here as the truth wants to get out. The segue itself reveals the kind of weird bigotry and elitism of the progressives And now we're going to you're going to play it after I'm gonna cue the plate. But remember, we're talking about Georgia and then we're going to switch it to Iowa. Oprah also told crowds she's not hitting the campaign trail to test the waters for her own political run back in the United States. Iowa. That ain't no United States over there is Georgia.

29:11 back in the United States, back on planet Earth in a dimension where I feel more comfortable. This was taken right from the podcast. Hold on just bend over for a sec. You can get a borderliner for that any day. Back in the USA, first he's talking about back in the... So what do you think Georgia is Amy? What country is it in? Yeah the Republic of Georgia! This is the kind of insulting this is in the brain because the entire set they got writers and cameramen and editors they have all these people

CHAPTER 12 / 57 Discussion

Bill Maher Panel, Identity Politics, Globalism

Bill Maher's panel, featuring the CEO of Axios and the president of the ACLU, discusses the rise of "Tropical Trump" Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil. The panel explores why liberal democracy is in retreat globally, citing migration and economic stagnation as primary drivers. The hosts argue that the panel fails to recognize that voters are rejecting globalism and progressive identity politics.

bill maher· axios· aclu· chelsea handler· jair bolsonaro

29:48 Line line editors. There's someone all the way at the back who says yay or nay or stop this is ultimate control in the control room person there notice this Oh, no I'm sure they noticed it they just it felt comfortable but it sounded right It sounds right should be good yeah well Does that do it for your? That's the run down now good you got a little borderline in there very good I'm gonna go back to the Bill Maher show. It was a doozy and it answers a lot of questions for us, but The panel is out of the panel is like the co-founder and CEO of axios Which is the NBC outfit which is why see CBS n is exists you know axios is basically NBC then there wasn't actually isn't actually something that Lorraine job But its NBC in her Basically or Comcast

30:45 Then there's the president of the ACLU who is an incredible dick. Oh my goodness! I mean, you don't even get the...you have to really wait to find out who that guy was. He popped in the middle Yeah, I was like this must be some kind of Democratic Party official but no it was the president of the ACLU and then Chelsea Handler who is just yelling all the time. It's too bad...I kind of liked her show but she'd her political ranting is tiring she's afraid! I'm so afraid! I'm effing scared okay? But then Bill Maher asks a very pertinent question and they are all oblivious

31:22 to what is staring them right in the face. One of the disturbing stories that got buried in the news this week, is that Brazil has a new president who they're calling The Tropical Trump and I feel like I've read this story before about other countries in the world it's like they're franchising Donald Trump. And he loves it! It's a compliment to him They are popping up everywhere! Yeah! They really are Italy has one Hungary Poland Um, Merkel is out in Germany. We don't know what's next there? Uh... What's go- Why is liberal democracy so in retreat right now? Hmmmm I don't know Bill! It's a big problem right because it's not going away anytime soon because you named it if you look at the politics of Britain Look at the politics Italy Look at what happened with Merkel You don't have as big number of sort of Trumpers there but its much bigger than before and helped drive her out of office

32:18 the commonality of all of those is its migration there, where it's immigration here. It's economic stagnation and it really is this switch globally that you've seen in politics for most of my lifetime it was big government versus small government at a simplest form now what's not now it's very much about sort of your identity do like the way the world was when you grew up or do you want change? And once you get there you know took this from if ever wasn't intellectual battle is something that's very, very emotional and very dangerous. It's all dangerous and they're doing identity politics somehow the tropical trouble don't they see that people are sick and tired of whatever these progressive ideas are with globalism? That's what's happening you that I didn't see globalism as a problem they see it as a solution. The tropical in Brazil

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Barbra Streisand, Walls Album, Bill Maher Interview

Barbra Streisand appeared on Bill Maher's show to promote her new album "Walls," which is inspired by her opposition to Donald Trump. Streisand claimed she has trouble sleeping due to Trump's policies and reiterated her threat to move to Canada if Democrats do not win the midterms. The hosts mock Maher's awkward interview style and Streisand's "diva" requirements for the set.

barbra streisand· bill maher· walls· donald trump· canada

33:14 I think it's insulting. Not from the Amazon! No, no, no... Anyway so this went on and on but then came the Bill Maher broke the format of the show for his superstar guest where typically they do interview in the beginning there was the Weiss girl from The New York Times about the Squirrel Hill synagogue shooting And then it was the panels, a comedy show. Oh yeah oh it gets funny for us but then normally the guest joins the panel at the table no not true I'm gonna disagree with you so we don't get letters I have watched this show as many times almost as you have and most of the time that guest doesn't join the panel

34:00 No, the first guest doesn't join the panel. Yes what I meant that's not what i'm talking about. The guy that shows up later? Yes! The second guest who comes rolling in is like hey how you doing and sits down next to Marr that guy? Yes this time it wasn't a guy was Barbara Streisand And she did not join the panel. She got her own segment in a different area of the set, oh yes? With two chairs and a table... Oh this is a diva! We've gotta step in John you're gonna need to be in the alternate universe to witness the full fury of what's really happening. Stand by we're going there, we're going to Dimench B everybody if you get dizzy just look at the ground it'll all go away stand by!

34:48 We choose not! Fuck you! You okay? Are you okay? Yeah, I'm just making sure the dog's okay. Okay Here we go So Barbara and then she's never been on his show and he's very excited And she has probably never seen his show She has a...she has an album out called Wallz and it's all about Trump And just what songs about Trump. Well, not specifically calling him out Donald Donald Donald Donald Trump but you know you say that she's probably never watched the show I also think Bill Maher

35:31 has never heard the song that she promoted, has never listened to the album and he says something here but just as a tip if you're ever going to interview a musical superstar what not to say. And you sound awesome on this song. Awesome! You sounded good as you ever have so I'm glad your still singing any day There's a new Barbra Streisand album, there is A Great Day in My House. I love this one and all the old ones. I'm gonna get the next one and all the new ones that are going to come out. But this one you know it's great...that such a catchy tune too! You do not say to Barbra Streisand...you do not say...it's such a catchy tune i can't explain it to you but

36:11 Singers hate it when you do shit like that. Okay, you know I'm glad your old world crew I see in the credits back there Carol Baker Sager and yes absolutely Bergman's wonderful team Yes So then she's completely confused she doesn't even remember why she's there but luckily she gets straight into it What was I gonna say? I think you'll really enjoy some of these clips. She's talking about her song. Anger! Wasn't she going to leave the country when George Bush was elected? Oh, she said that if the Democrats don't win the midterms they don't win the House... ...she is still considering moving to Canada so it's doubling down Well you know I should mention just as an aside You know she has a place, her and Brolin They've got a place up in the Pacific Northwest We think it's in Sequim Because Mimi has run into both of them Yeah

CHAPTER 14 / 57 Discussion

James Brolin, Sequim Washington, Organic Grocery Store

An anecdote is shared about a listener's encounter with James Brolin and Barbra Streisand at Sunny Farms, an organic grocery store in Sequim, Washington. Brolin reportedly asked "Do you know who I am?" after being complimented on his expensive haircut, to which the listener replied with the same question before walking away. The hosts use the story to illustrate the couple's perceived self-importance.

james brolin· barbra streisand· sequim· sunny farms· organic food

37:11 Uh, one of the stores that everyone goes there. Sunny farms is the organic store that all the everybody's close enough. We'll just call that Canada it's close enough and is pretty close to Canada already but she says that the two of them are just really over they overdress for the area she ran into Berlin once and she did this I'll give this your story. She likes to tell it She says she looks at him and she says, she recognized him but she's noticing his haircut which was one of those had to be a 500 the way she saw it had to be a $500 haircut. This was not like any even good stylist here this is outrageous and she says to them that haircut is fantastic and he says to her

37:55 Do you know who I am? I do that all the time at restaurants in Austin. And then Mimi says, Mimi says is her retort... Do you know who I am? Oh yeah a classic! And walks off. Classic well she showed him damn it. I'm proud of her. Sadness as well as Anger. I must say, motivated me to make this album. It's amazing that you can take something...I mean the name of the album, The Walls but the idea, the first song What's on My Mind? You say right in the beginning it's so on my mind Trump is so on my mind you channeled it into this album That's why I couldn't sleep nights

38:39 And so I was thinking, oh my god now the photographs in my head. The pictures you know? The children being ripped out of the arms of their parents. I remember about one of them... Stay with me John! Last lines in that song is whatever happened to just being kind? Oh yeah There's a lot of this and I've you know it's a long interview don't have just pulled if you put a lot Of her saying why can't we just reach across the aisle? And like but why did she go to the White House and talk to him You know your barber is Streisand. You could go talk to the guy, but there's none of that But I discovered something very important about her and also by coincidence about Bill Maher

CHAPTER 15 / 57 Discussion

Barbra Streisand, Childhood Trauma, Stepfather Secret

Barbra Streisand revealed on Bill Maher's show that her hatred of liars stems from a childhood trauma involving her mother. Streisand recounted being sent to summer camp and returning to find a stranger in the car who turned out to be a stepfather she was never told about. The hosts suggest this psychological trauma is being triggered by Donald Trump's perceived lies, causing her current distress.

barbra streisand· childhood trauma· stepfather· lies· summer camp

39:24 So they're both extremely triggered by Trump. And what is the number one thing in the rotation we are hearing about, certainly in the last few weeks? What is the number one Trump rotation item that we hear? I don't know He lies! He lies! He's a liar! He's lying! Lies! Lies! Washington Post This week Trump has made 6420 false or misleading claims over 649 days. Lies, lies, lies! Well what's happening is both of these people and she's going to explain the story have psychological trauma

40:00 In their life, and I understand what the-I have you know there was a couple of big lies in my family which one of these days i'll talk about on the show. And so I understand when you grow up in a house that is either based on a lie or has lies things that are going on And so yeah, I can understand if someone is lying that you'd be triggered by that. Strangely, I'm not triggered and I think they answer that as well But I think we share something which is we both hate liars You know? You can do almost anything to me or say anything to me Just don't lie to me! I know! See...I was lied too as a child That's why I am so passionate about lies and people who lie By family?

40:44 I was sent away to a summer camp. My mother came to visit me and said, you're not leaving without me." I always had a strong will, you know? And uh...I got a carton, I remember, and packed my things up and she had to take me home And in the car was this stranger, this new man. And I thought who is this? He turned out to be my stepfather that...I was never told about that

41:24 And that my mother was going to have another baby. Nothing was ever told to me, you know when I said to my mother... Yeah she had this is she has severe psychological trauma about her mother lying. From a camp? No if you listen to what she said no I heard what she says in the camps he had to get home because she couldn't stand it and then she met her stepfather in the car ride home as though she's I guess she supposed to be informed about everything how old was she that's the key But she was I don't know the a thing she said at the beginning but the point is from that and all of a sudden her dad was gone And this was her new dad. So it was if she was not prepped for it, and there was traumatized I can understand that was traumatizing nobody likes that so she has psychological trauma Which is being triggered by what she considers to be thousands of lies and it's taking her back to her childhood That's its obvious

42:20 Why did well that was later, but I said why didn't you ever talk to me about my father? My father was a teacher a scholar and A religious man by the way And she said well. I thought you'd miss him, but you see you see what I mean by yeah The lying by the way as an actress or singer What you depend upon is truth Truth communicates. Lies... Well in this case, I mean his lies seem to work for... Ah yes because maybe there's some truth in there that's communicating Barbara Maybe that's why it seems to be working a bit But truth eventually wins out don't you think? Yeah! Yes! Wooo!

CHAPTER 16 / 57 Discussion

Bill Maher, Bomber List, Mental Health

Bill Maher claimed to be on the "MAGA bomber" Cesar Sayoc's hit list, a claim the hosts find sketchy and uncorroborated by other sources. Streisand and Maher discussed their methods for coping with Trump-induced anxiety, including eating sweets and playing card games like Gin and Rummikub before bed. The hosts characterize the pair as being "clinically insane" due to their obsession with the President.

bill maher· maga bomber· cesar sayoc· gin· rummikub

43:10 I think what you've played here is the proof that these people are immature. That's why we're in the alternate universe, but do you want to... They're going crazy! No no it's very important this is a short 30 seconds they're going nuts because they're over stimulated they're watching this shit all day long and that's why they can't sleep at night But one reason I think they are always against you is because you have been effective remember in 1986? So their against me?! Yes, they're very much against you. They don't like you when they talk... I remember years ago when I was supporting something called gun control... You were on the end? Oh, I'm sorry this is something else This is where Bill Maher says he was on the bomber's list Enemy's list! That's right

43:54 Which I was very proud to be and still am. I'm sorry! That's the good news. I was kind of gratified when I found out this week, that I was on the bomber list you know? You don't want to be left out. It is a lot more scary. Bill Maher... What was he feeling? Left out? He is only one who has corroborated this story that he also was on the bombers lists Did he get a bomb? Was there a bomb in the mail? Where was his list? All of a sudden... Who else is on the list? If you do a search, if you Bing it You'll see only him. Oh he announced that was on the list like he felt left out or I don't know but its very sketchy Now here's their fear clip because they're overstimulated with this stupid stuff

44:39 So, how do you balance... I think we all fight this. How do we balance not being obsessed with Donald Trump? Thinking about him all day because I've never known a president who was more in our heads which is sort of what the album is about. Exactly! Isn't this the joke that everyone says Trump is living rent-free in their heads and he's actually just admitting it. This is bizarre What I do is first of all engaged... I eat a lot And I need sweets like coffee, ice cream right? That counterbalances the bitterness that he's throwing at us.

45:21 And also, I have to play games literally before i go to sleep. To get him out of my head... ...To get the news that I watch all day out of my head thinking about tomorrow. I have to be in the present. To be in the present you have to play gin! You know? You have to play Rummikub. You have to play Scramble That's my way. What do you do? I just turn...I find I'm watching in-season basketball So they're watching stuff all day and they're getting nuts, and then they can't handle it They can't sleep so they have to play card games and do something else This is not healthy

CHAPTER 17 / 57 Discussion

Climate Truth, Terminology Evolution, Barbra Streisand

Barbra Streisand accidentally introduced the term "climate truth" during her interview, which the hosts predict will be the next evolution of "global warming" and "climate change." They mock the linguistic shift as a new round of attacks by environmental activists. The segment highlights Streisand's struggle to articulate her points about the administration's handling of environmental data.

climate truth· climate change· global warming· barbra streisand· terminology

46:02 I think you've played clips of two people that are probably clinically insane. Well, I don't want...I wouldn't say insane. Really? I don't think we can make that... I think she's really got something wrong with her. She...I mean but this of course doesn't explain her deep deep hatred of George Bush To the point where she was gonna leave the country to threaten to or said she would for guaranteed it I don't know but he's that was never portrayed as a liar. So, I think this is even maybe even this is somewhat Contrived just a hater She did introduce a new term or maybe it's a term that I hadn't heard before and i think It was put into her mind and she flubbed It as its coming out but, I think it's of logical evolution Of climate change terminology. Just what's going on with the environment? Oh my god! That's like the forgotten issue because all this other nonsense You mentioned about The younger people And I read in an article The other day they talked About 18 to 29 year olds

47:04 One-third of them are not going to vote and I think but what do you mean just think about climate change? What's gonna happen to your future your children's future. This is a terrible problem the Republicans and this administration have wiped off all of the information about Climate truth, the truth yeah of that's climate they don't even want to know what change Yeah So did you catch it no climate truth That was her phrase climate truth. I thought she said the truth about climate change She tries to clarify wiped off all of the information about climate truth the true That was slipped in pretty quickly, I wouldn't have caught that no But she flubbed it she flubbed it but she said climate Truth the truth about climate change and she couldn't get it out but that seems like she had

47:58 heard about this or I just want to put it maybe something bubbling under may be coming out. I think climate truth is fantastic! I think it's probably a new round of attacks. Yes, we went from global warming to climate change to climate truth. Does it get any better? I like it. I like it a lot, I want to keep it on the radar. Anyway last clip is where Barbara Walters of course... Barbara Walters no difference. Barbara Streisand same woman! Barbara Streisand has a solution for all of these problems. Listen to this this is a very funny thing he says. Those people who say shut up and sing do both Shut Up And Sing? Shut Up And Sing Do Both What?!

CHAPTER 18 / 57 Discussion

Media Ratings, Trump Rallies, Stockroom Reporting

Barbra Streisand questioned why the media continues to cover Donald Trump's rallies, to which Bill Maher responded that the news must now "report to the stockroom" for ratings. The hosts clarify that Maher meant news organizations are driven by profit and that Trump generates significant revenue through high viewership. They agree that the media's financial dependence on Trump's antics is a well-established reality.

media ratings· trump rallies· revenue· stockroom· advertising

48:48 He says shut up and he catches his arse. So, shut up and sing and do both be shut up! Yeah And sing somehow... And he tries to recover from it Most people who say shut up and sing do both Sing but I have one question though Why? It was safe No save Here we go here's our question Do we allow the media to keep showing him on TV why are we covering these rallies He said 71 rallies. Because there's money in it, because the media used to be a lost leader They didn't care if covering the news made money and now it has to report to the stockroom like everybody else Yeah that sucks but don't cover them! Right exactly Thank You Barbara Streisand

49:33 The media never made money and now they have to report to the stock room? Yes. What are they, get some empty bottles what's in the stock room? Well what he is trying to say I will translate He is trying to say that ratings equals money so Trump equals ratings more Trump That just the way it going be Hello Yeah well we've noticed this from the get go Let's get out of here Are you ready I can't stand it anymore. It's unhealthy! Don't stay there too long! Stratlick is the best, be careful! Here we go! Back to that fast shot man! We choose love! Fuck you! You know they...

CHAPTER 19 / 57 Discussion

Straight White Males, Franchise Prohibition, Democracy

A controversial clip features a guest on a news program suggesting that the only hope for American democracy is to prohibit straight white males from voting. The speaker claims this demographic supported Donald Trump by 85% and that removing their franchise would "save" the country. The hosts mock the absurdity of the proposal and the reaction it has garnered on right-wing talk shows.

straight white males· voting rights· democracy· right-wing talk shows· franchise

50:23 You heard this clip this one is I can't remember. I forgot to write the guy's name down, but he was He's like an ex-executive for some broadcasting operations written a bunch of books and they caught him on the sand They're just playing this straight up some interview This is the straight white guy male shouldn't vote guy Have you heard this? No, no. Oh this is the right wing talk shows are nuts over this clip I mean it's got to help me Right and one other one you talked about prohibiting straight males Straight white males yes I wrote about this in 2012. I think it's the only hope for democracy in America, and that will be leading a great movement to prohibit straight white males who I believe supported Donald Trump by about 85 percent from having exercising their franchise and I think that will save our democracy."

51:19 Oh, who is this Jamoke? Somebody in the chat room will know. You gotta tell me you can't just throw this out there I mean who is this guy? You'll find him easy he's just too funny though that then okay you would so that will save democracy so all the white men that are straight in other words gays are okay and be gay to say your gay Dave you did if they don't vote and democracy is saved somehow. How does this make it any sense? Well, I mean even though Hello. Oh what hello? Hello. Do you hear me what happened nothing? Oh no my headphone amp went out and I'm sorry that was weird Okay, come back Even though you told me to delete the tweet because it was hurting the show when I did I still denounce him with double n Lawrence Lessig

CHAPTER 20 / 57 Discussion

Lawrence Lessig, Generational Guilt, Voter Turnout

Professor Lawrence Lessig released a video blaming men over 50 for the election of George W. Bush and Donald Trump, as well as the failure of climate change legislation. Lessig argues that if 18-to-34-year-olds had voted at the same rate as seniors, the Iraq War and "Nazi rallies" at Charlottesville would have been avoided. The hosts dismiss Lessig's "self-loathing" narrative and his assumptions about youth voting patterns.

lawrence lessig· harvard· creative commons· obamacare· charlottesville

52:13 who gave us, I mean Lawrence Lessig who i've worked with you know he created the uh Creative Commons copyright. Let me give a little background what you just said so people get a kick out of it So Adam just...I was on Twitter when he was on Twitter You're always on twitter! And he says.. I denounce him and he spelled D-N-N or like announced like he's an announcer so he put two N's in there because I know that's where it came from Yeah And so I quickly sent him a direct mail saying Quickly erase that tweet and redo it. You're hurting the show! No, you- no that's not what you said...no no no It was a little more passive aggressive I'm going to the tweeter right now and i shall read you what you said Do you said? Here is Erase your last tweet and spell denounce correctly. It's hurting the show

53:09 That's not more passive-aggressive. That that's more aggressive! It's hurting the show, so okay... I knew you liked the hurting the show part. This is my favorite. Everything is hurting this shows way I see it. I used to get really riled when you did stuff like that and now like oh yeah I'm deleting it and I just say sure absolutely you're still right all right alright old man well good so Lawrence Lessig the professor at MIT? He floats around. He was at Harvard for I think he's still a Harvard. I knew him when he was at Stanford, I've had lunch with him. I've chatted with him and he is an interesting guy as a socialist Well, he created the Creative Commons not creative

53:51 Yes, creative commons copyright some hard-on against yeah when I'm using that term apparently too often Because I remember it from his last show He's got a hard on for copyrights in some way but it's mostly like look from a communist perspective That's not entirely true. I'd like Creative Commons and I did and I took Some people to court and one and said jurisprudence so we've had some good back and forth over the years Yeah good But now he's just come out and just insulting me and you, because he says that we are to blame for everything that's happened right now. It's the same thing it's a straight white male! Yes so my generation pretty much sucks because of people like me over 50 whites especially men pretty much every awful thing that's happened in the past 20 years

54:41 happened. We elected George Bush, which got us the Iraq war we didn't elect Al Gore which meant you didn't get climate change legislation despite us Obama was elected but in 2010 we kicked the Democrats out of control of Congress that meant Obama got nothing else substantial through Congress in his six remaining years and office a stalemated government that stalled the recovery, and did squat diddly about any important national issue. And of course we elected Donald Trump which meant two more Supreme Court justices picked by presidents that didn't even win the popular vote bringing that total to four on this court We really suck

55:28 But here's the inconvenient truth about this story. If the 18 to 34 year olds had voted at the same proportion as the 65 plusers, none of these awful things would have happened. George Bush would have lost which means no Iraq war Al Gore is president and climate change legislation likely passed The kids elected Obama, but if they had voted at the same proportion as the 65-plusers, the Dems would have had more than a 130 member majority in the House of Representatives. That would've meant much more effective Obamacare and maybe even student debt relief And of course if 18 to 34 year olds had voted in the same proportion as the 65 pluser's there would've been no Donald Trump

56:17 Which means no Nazi rallies at Charlottesville and elsewhere, no children ripped from their parents' arms at the border. No pipe bombs sent to any Democrat with a spine. No right-wing Supreme Court and possibly even gun control legislation. No doubt we suck but if you would only vote then every sucky thing that we would do could be stopped. There ya go! The self-hating white man over 50 ladies and gentlemen, it's all our fault. Let's get right self loathing self loathing now he Really assumes a lot to say that we would have had climate change 18 to 34 you whether they're all 18 to 34 white males a bunch of lockstep

CHAPTER 21 / 57 Discussion

Generation Z, Fascism Labels, 1984 Newspeak

The hosts discuss the political leanings of "Zoomers" (Generation Z), noting that some observers label them as "borderline fascists." They critique the modern overuse of terms like "Nazi" and "fascist" to describe contemporary political figures, comparing it to Newspeak from George Orwell's 1984. The conversation emphasizes how controlling the present allows for the redefinition of the past and political labels.

generation z· zoomers· fascism· george orwell· 1984

57:07 you know everything to do is exactly the same, they're all going to vote Democrat. That's bull! In fact there's a lot of talking about I'd say extreme right wingers when you start digging down into the next Zoomers as they like to call them at least in our household. The zoomers are the next group Generation Z, the zoomers. Those guys, a lot of those are pretty borderline fascists. And I'm not using the word, and I don't like to...and I'm sick of it by the way. You got a note from one of my friends in Brazil about this too and she called the new guy a Nazi pig. And you know what? I think you can use the word fascist

57:55 Even though I think that's not the right word either, but Nazi means you're a member of the Nationalist Social Democrats or whatever that party name specific name was in German. National Socialists? You're not a National Socialist. You're not. So why are you a fascist? It means, you know it was part of the fascistic movement which again was a group specific... They gotta come up with a new name because you can't keep calling people members of some defunct party in Germany as your... Why? It's an anchoring moment, of course. That's the whole point! That's the whole point you get to it's new speak come on you see what happening annoying yes it's not stopping is just not this is you know the dictionary will gets thinner every year I just watched 1984 last night again and then you know how they always say he who can... Which version? The 1985 film think it was

58:59 The one with John Hurt. Oh yeah, that's the creepy one. Yeah very creepy but I realized that everyone always says George Orwell wrote He Who Controls the Planet. The past controls the future. The second line to that, which I'd forgotten is he who controls the present controls the past and that's what's happening Your words are changing the way you know nationalists now just means white nationalist You don't have to say white nationalist anymore is just what it means has been pumped into our heads It's very Very harmful what is taking place with media? We need to turn it off need to not be watching it mainly

CHAPTER 22 / 57 Discussion

Michael Moore, Gender Leadership, Media Deconstruction

Michael Moore appeared on Seth Meyers' show suggesting that men should "take a break" and let women run the world for the next 10,000 years. The hosts mock Moore's "insane" proposal and his self-identification as an "uneducated angry white guy" from Michigan. They conclude the segment by reaffirming their mission of media deconstruction to help listeners stay sane amidst such rhetoric.

michael moore· seth meyers· gender· globalism· media deconstruction

59:38 Michael Moore was also out he was on Seth what's the name says out he said he Was out and about he, was on what seth Talk show host from SNL Seth, what's his name again? Seth Meyers. But they are fanatical about this because they know their time is up and the sort of angry white guy which actually I'm really Trumps demographic cuz yeah I mean Michigan angry white guy over 50 with a high school education So that's me. Yeah, so if I could just speak to my fellow angry white American guys who are semi uneducated like me? That's me! I got high school but i'm not angry for some reason why am I not angry? Dudes! Give it up!

1:00:23 It's we've been running the show for 10,000 years. It's like it's like We've had a long run as men running everything and and and you know The Yankees could never win as many pennants as we've won in these ten thousand years right man So why don't we just take a break let the majority gender? Run the show just for her yeah You know Let the globalists run things too. Why are we doing it? He's saying let the women run the show! Yeah, I know he is saying that the women run everything and they're not going to do it It's just what is this guy... This guy is an insane maniac And if you really looked over the election of Donald Trump Who was the people that were mad The mad white guys The angry white guy got him elected But then you don't see a bunch of... The number of angry white guys versus the number of angry women

1:01:20 It seems to be minor. Yeah, I'm not trying to do any logic here. I'm just trying to point it out Mm-hmm. I don't know this is I wonder if we can ever Well glue some of this together maybe it's maybe it's only just on TV and maybe it's not all that bad I don't know. It's not it's not that bad so the TV people that's what we mock We'd do media deconstruction So you have to deal with it more than anyone and with that? I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to John C He stands for Caucasian Angry Man. Dvorak! Angry! In the morning to you Mr Adam Curry, also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and the dames and knights out there And in the morning too our troll room hello trolls noagendastream.com is where you can listen to the show live on Thursdays and Sunday mornings and You can also chat along and that is the troll room we always like here

1:02:14 And what everybody has to say and they help out and they fact check false and everything. And also a big in the morning to Darren O'Neill, yeah we're bopping back and forth between the pros now We chose his art for...and it was another tough choice for the artwork album art as we do every episode This is for 1082 title that was Other Eyes And we chose this because there were a number of great candidates, but we figured... This is the one that we need to discuss a little bit. Because there was some good art that we had to pass over. Let me just say what we chose it was uh yeah just a beautifully drawn piece welcome to Beto Land and a bunch of money on a golden coin paved road and it was just a great piece and we knew that you know we would probably wouldn't be able to use this after the election

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No Agenda Art, Beto Land, Jamal Khashoggi

The hosts discuss the selection of the "Beto Land" artwork by Darren O'Neill for episode 1082, noting its timely relevance to the Texas election. They also mention a rejected piece of art featuring a "Khashoggi hoagie" logo, which they found too dark for the main show but potentially useful for the newsletter. The segment highlights the high quality of listener-submitted art and its role in the show's branding.

album art· beto land· jamal khashoggi· newsletter· darren o'neill

1:01:20 It seems to be minor. Yeah, I'm not trying to do any logic here. I'm just trying to point it out Mm-hmm. I don't know this is I wonder if we can ever Well glue some of this together maybe it's maybe it's only just on TV and maybe it's not all that bad I don't know. It's not it's not that bad so the TV people that's what we mock We'd do media deconstruction So you have to deal with it more than anyone and with that? I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to John C He stands for Caucasian Angry Man. Dvorak! Angry! In the morning to you Mr Adam Curry, also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and the dames and knights out there And in the morning too our troll room hello trolls noagendastream.com is where you can listen to the show live on Thursdays and Sunday mornings and You can also chat along and that is the troll room we always like here

1:02:14 And what everybody has to say and they help out and they fact check false and everything. And also a big in the morning to Darren O'Neill, yeah we're bopping back and forth between the pros now We chose his art for...and it was another tough choice for the artwork album art as we do every episode This is for 1082 title that was Other Eyes And we chose this because there were a number of great candidates, but we figured... This is the one that we need to discuss a little bit. Because there was some good art that we had to pass over. Let me just say what we chose it was uh yeah just a beautifully drawn piece welcome to Beto Land and a bunch of money on a golden coin paved road and it was just a great piece and we knew that you know we would probably wouldn't be able to use this after the election

1:03:00 And you know, if you leave something like that on the table and we still had today there might be something else. It was just too good. We wouldn't be able to reuse it in a newsletter so it was top-notch like a lot of them but we went with the timing is that do I sum it up properly there? I think so We there were pieces that we liked a lot and I end up if we had a piece from number shows ago Would you try to sneak back in? And I keep trying to sneak it back in by bringing the Koshogi topic back. That's why I put in the newsletter It was the beautiful piece by pay of the Koshogi is a subway logo for, for the show logo. And it was guy selling Koshogis and there was a in the artwork was horrible hoagie with bones and pieces of cloth and stuff in it.

1:03:55 You know, this is the problem. We do get a lot of good art we have to...we do look...reuse it I used the art that was the main piece for the newsletter there top logo The top art piece was from God knows like years ago that I just saw and said you know that would work So it all gets used It does usually does and a lot of it goes to Evergreens And yeah, we do pick it up later so There's some junk in there Very happy with that All right, let's thank a few people for today. Show 1083 DJ Fuji in Jersey City $400 he's our top guy Gentlemen not sure if the jobs karma was the jobs karma or the way you both said DJ food I don't remember saying that I also don't remember which is somewhat concerning yeah, it was bothersome

CHAPTER 24 / 57 Discussion

Producer Donations, Jobs Karma, Unfilter Podcast

A series of donations from producers like DJ Fuji and Aaron Christensen lead to a discussion about the "Jobs Karma" jingle and its effectiveness. The hosts also comment on the end of the "Unfilter" podcast, noting that its high production demands and lack of revenue led to its demise. They mention rumors that the host may be joining Linux Academy.

dj fuji· jobs karma· unfilter podcast· linux academy· frankfurt

1:04:53 It reminds me of a number of episodes I've had where people have called me out for not remembering something. But either way, the Jobs Karma worked the very next day! So in gratitude, I am doubling my previous donation request another Jobs Karma this time for everyone. I love the Jobs Karma da-da-DA song super remix." Yeah you know if i could find it and I looked for it...I actually saw it pop up earlier this morning and I..it's mistitled or mislabeled or something? I know what he's talking about but I cannot find it. We'll give everybody some jobs, Karma and then we'll work on it and you put in an end of show mix in the next few weeks. Jobs! Jobs! Jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! You've got karma Aaron Christensen in Frankfurt 36363 from Deutschland

1:05:51 Thank you. In the morning, gents I'm continuing my march towards Euro knighthood with my second donation of 333 dot 33 euro dollars this is because today November 2nd is the 2000 and 18th year of our Lord and I am thirty three years and three hundred thirty-three days old by some strange stroke of luck this also happens to be a pleasing palindrome in US dollars today The donation will bring me to a total of 666.66 euros and I don't know how much that is in your fake money!

1:06:32 I was specifically on to the show by the Unit Filter podcast, which John was previously griping about. It was definitely a less entertaining No Agenda clone in many ways but they did especially excellent deconstructions of cyber news with the host being former and current dudes named Ben respectively their cyber segment is deeply missed yeah they stopped which it's too bad they could have kept it going Anyway, John would be delighted to learn that Unifilter is now defunct. I'm not that happy about it because according to Chris, Unifilter was a full-time job unto itself... You know what they were making their heart... It's Unfilter not Unifilter, unfilter. Unfilter. Sorry. Unifilter. Unfilter was a full time job this is what I noticed that they were as one of them when I talk to people about podcasting I always mention that we try to do everything

1:07:31 Kind of concisely so we it's done. It's done you don't do a lot of post You mean do you mean? We're too lazy to do anything with recording real-time, and we're just that professional resistance OK, I found it. Got a friend to show. OK? He does at least four other shows and it wasn't bringing in enough money. We now know he is also in negotiations to be acquired by Linux Academy which may or may not have been related to his decision to end the show. I wouldn't fault him for that. Their show was good unfiltered was a good show. I listened to it a number of times. I've always found they did. It was hard to produce. It was just hard to produce this. A lot of a lot of you were doing video when it was not necessary

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Pittsburgh Karma, 3D Printer Repair, Bionic Eye

Producers from Pittsburgh and Los Angeles request karma for local events and businesses, including a 3D printer repair service. John C. Dvorak discusses his experience with a new "bionic" eye following surgery, describing the "information overload" his brain is experiencing with restored vision. He admits to having difficulty reading names correctly due to the sudden influx of visual data.

pittsburgh· 3d printer repair· bionic eye· information overload· los angeles

1:08:13 I mean there was a lot of complaints you could have about, you know if they were part of our network which we don't have We would've told them to do things differently. Anyway no jingles No Karma. All right Thank You very much appreciate it hello Deutschland Anonymous in Sperge Pennsylvania. Oh, by the way that 333 in euros is 36363 which still comes out kind of jazzy. Anonymous and Pittsburgh 33333 are funny money I love this show Jobs Karma really works this year I requested jobs karma landed a good job now have an opportunity for my ostensible dream job

1:08:54 So I'd like to humbly ask for another round of jobs karma. I also have a collective... I also had like, a collective karma for the city of Pittsburgh it's surreal feeling to see location you walk past every day from five years in the national news for such a horrific incident. As for jingles, I'd like a numbers station two to the head drone again at the end of the show is it possible for me to hear it and not sing along multiple times? Oh, it's impossible sorry It's impossible for me not to hear it. You would sing anyway, Steve. India, hang out, Mike standby 333333 Rob Alizer out. You've got karma.

1:09:51 Did you say you found that clip? You might want to play for... Yeah, I have it for End of Show. I got the end-of-show version Okay this is for Drs Fuji? Yep! Fuji DJ Fuji!! It's not doctor it's DJ. Ever since I got my new eyeball This has not been a bionic experience Has it now? It's not been great for you. No, it was great but I mean because you're actually kind of blind in one eye for a long time so your brain starts re-designing how its gonna see things and all the sudden when you put the other eyeball into full use where as back to brand new... Wait a minute! So your other eyeballs going, ah fuck it I give up

1:10:40 No, no. The other eyeball is the other eyeball but the new eyeball is like it's I think it's just information overload because the brain was not used to getting so much data and So it started to read into things instead of saying DJ sing doctor Well, you know as soon did I have made that number of these little? It's almost a little slightly dyslexic Yeah, I'd be getting a refund The hell man was supposed to be blind I don't know what where was the benefit in all this the benefit? Yeah, you mean like being able to drive at night or I'm sorry cuz you're out on the town so much

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Hearing Aids, Dimension A and B, Media Bias

Adam Curry shares an awkward encounter involving his hearing aids and a deaf woman in an elevator. The hosts then address listener criticism regarding their "Dimension A and B" concept, which some perceive as being pro-Republican. They defend their approach as media deconstruction, explaining that they focus on mainstream media because it is where the most aggressive agendas are promoted.

hearing aids· dimension a· dimension b· media bias· fox news

1:11:21 Being able to drive at night or not being you know from any simple light source if there's a source of light Okay, blinding. You know that's horrible I didn't realize it was like that okay? Just thought you couldn't see you can't shit Sorry, I couldn't hear ya We're a fine pair. I got hearing aids you got Hear no evil see no evil we get when did you have two what's the other one the third person yeah speak no evil And I find myself doing strange things with the hearing aids. Tina and I were in the elevator yesterday, or the day before Friday. And then someone walked in... She was- and you know it's a confusing elevator where there are no buttons so someone had programmed the outside for her she gets in she is looking around like what the hell? And I say nah nah that's normal! Then she looked at me and went hii I'm deaf! And points to hearing aids and that's not making a joke that how she sounded. And I immediately go yeah me too look I got hearing aids! Like I am a dick! She was really like deaf and mute

1:12:24 She couldn't speak or hear and here I am like, oh you're a colleague. I'm like yeah geez I'm a dick high five Hey look at me i'm deaf too! I'm an idiot horrible man sir milkman comes in $256 uh hey fellas happy 11th can I get a plug for our 3d printer repair business? Are they guess it's far enough along now that 3D The printers are falling apart. They're falling apart, yeah I guess. LA... okay it goes to la3dprinterrepair.com so LA 3D printer repair all one word dot com Very nice! I guess Alright First and only local resource dedicated the 3-D printer repair Alright in Los Angeles Yeah well is that where he is? I guess L A Oh must be or could be Louisiana Could be

1:13:24 We should know, he's Sir Milkman. We should know but we don't. You'd think. Sure Timothy of the no fixed title in Plymouth Michigan 2222 I've been saving up for a donation and Mamie's birthday is a great reason to hit the second send button. The past month of shows have combined the polish and professionalism of modern no agenda with even-handed savaging of everybody on all sides that made this show great in the first place! I have been concerned this year when sometimes, I heard an episode and thought, damn these guys are sounding like Republicans Now that is an insult, that is a real insult. I hate it when people say that! I've never belonged to any political party which of course is not true because you guys often vote for independent candidates and third parties but I fear you may lose potential donors with things like the dimension A&B idea which can sometimes sound like Republicans are in Dimension A and crazy disappointed Democrats in Dimension B or dementia as he says

1:14:26 as if no agenda is taking sides on dimension A. I know plenty of crazy Republicans who scare me as much as Democrats, perhaps people who can think critically and okay well let me stop before i read any more of this what we do is media deconstruction And there just is so much, why don't you go to Fox and look at what they're saying. It's like we don't have to, I mean they're not trying to trick anybody with- And when they do, we call them out, but we find a little back, the whipsaw ways of presenting news

CHAPTER 27 / 57 Discussion

Obama vs Trump Coverage, Media Slant, Armistice Day

The hosts respond to claims that they covered Barack Obama more critically than Donald Trump, arguing that the media's universal praise for Obama required more deconstruction. They assert that 80% of journalists are Democrats, which naturally slants the news toward a specific agenda. The segment ends with a mention of upcoming Armistice Day and Carnival celebrations in the Netherlands.

barack obama· donald trump· media slant· amy goodman· armistice day

1:15:04 And Trump said he was, admitted he was a liar and then they cut to a clip of Trump saying no such thing. Yeah but you see... Okay hold on hold on hold on Then the next argument that comes back is when Obama was president sure you were deconstructing the media by showing all the bullcrap they were telling about him being the best in the world but they say you had hundreds of thousands of clips about Obama and you do almost know Trump clips And you're missing the point of what we do, because if you want crazy ass Trump clips turn on the television. That's exactly it... Of course it is the reverse this is truly about media when the media was all in an Obama

1:15:51 Show the opposite which usually would have to say this is what he really said remember when he shouted down the protester and all here heckler He made a big shirt sure about just come in took care of that Protester then we played the raw audio where it was about 15 minutes if him going bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye get now and they and they lied So, you know I don't understand. I do understand the media is very biased and I believe this and they admitted it themselves if you go in fact you can tag go to if you ever get give a speech to media group and ask him how many Democrats and Republicans are there? You'll find that's about

1:16:29 80 and I think even higher a percent of Democrats. And they slant the news, and what all we do is just say hey you guys aren't presenting this correctly or that...and then you have the little subtleties like Amy Goodman suggesting that Georgia is not in the United States! That's what all we do. We don't do if it was the other way around we would still be doing the same thing It just so happens that they're all promoting an agenda and we are just pointing it out what's really going on, keeping people from going nuts because their agenda which is definitely an agenda is making people crazy. Yes! Well I don't know even if that is their agenda... That's the result of their agenda. Yeah you're right My agenda is to make you laugh

1:17:24 Just, just laugh. If you haven't laughed during this show then I feel personally I've failed if you haven't laughed about something just some lunatic thing which could be it could be me Yeah, you should be laughing. You should be laughing sir Tim is either no fixed tiles But he also says happy birthday to Mimi and I can't wait for the Thursday show Michigan local ones having a post-election sanity lunch at China star palace in Westland on Sunday 1111 At 1 p.m.. 1111 by the way is which was next Sunday Is the armistice days today that World War one ended ah this right it is also It marks Carnival in the Netherlands

CHAPTER 28 / 57 Discussion

Grimerica Show, Value-for-Value, Executive Producers

John C. Dvorak's recent interview on The Grimerica Show is promoted, with the hosts thanking Sir Grey for his support. They reiterate the importance of the "value-for-value" model in an era of manufactured outrage and censorship. The segment serves as a formal thank you to high-tier donors who contribute $200 or more to the production.

grimerica· value-for-value· executive producer· censorship· podcasting

1:18:02 It's called the 1111. It's the crazy day, I don't know why? Maybe because it has something to do with World War One. Could be. Sir Grey of Grimerica comes our last associate executive producer $202 and 2 cents. I think it was show 1313 yeah big thanks to John for chatting with us on The Grimerica Show podcast. It happens to be episode 313 now released Keep up the stellar work guys, you have inspired us and changed many lives for the better. Everyone support The NO Agenda Show! The value-for-value model is so very important in this time of manufactured outrage, virtue signaling and censorship

1:18:41 Jingle equals karma best sir gray of great America. Thank you, sir Gray and thank you grey America and everyone who supports that show as well I have not heard this podcast But it will be on the no agenda stream right after today's show And I'm looking forward to it because you've certainly promoted it so now I'm excited I'm excited to hear about your your history all about yeah It says oh You're gonna find out all kinds of things that you've never heard before Yes Okay. You've never heard any of that! It's all new, everybody! Thank you to our executive producers and associate executive producers these are the real credits the ones that you can well a producer credit is real as well but we like to bring these forward just like Hollywood it's part of our value for value model we thank the people who bring in $200 and above

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Peerage Committee, Black Damehood, Law School Karma

A listener from the Netherlands asks about the possibility of becoming the first "black dame," leading to a humorous discussion about the rules of the No Agenda Peerage Committee. The hosts grant "Law School Karma" and "Hot Wife Status" to the donor. They also briefly touch on the "trains good, planes bad" meme before moving to the next topic.

peerage committee· damehood· law school· trains· netherlands

1:19:32 for as associate executive producers and executive producers exactly what executive producers do. And you can use that credit wherever they are recognized if someone gives you a hassle we'll be happy to vouch for it because it's real! We will be thanking more people $50 above in our second segment and another show post-election analysis will be coming up on Thursday for you please remember us at Dvorak dot org slash N A I don't know where she came from all of us. Hey, get out there propagate the formula our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth Hey, did you feel any of those earthquakes? No. They're nowhere near here I do want to read a letter though that was one of our make goods from the last show Oh okay Or 1082 i guess This is from Angeline Alsmeer Alsmeer the Netherlands Alsmeer Alsmeer I swear my last email had been waiting to write you when I had some extra money to donate She's been on the $4 list she was on she gave us something and didn't get picked up or something or the note didn't

1:20:47 My husband and I, introduced to the podcast keeps threatening to write in a call me out as a douchebag. My donation last week and today should beat him to the punch please de-doosh me so we can do that. You've been de-dooshed She wonders if she'll be the first black dame she may be up for dame hood is not really clear in here but we do not do black dames sorry Anyway, she needs some law school karma. What do you mean we don't do black dames? I don't understand We've never done a black dame Well it's not that we wouldn't

1:21:24 I don't know. I think it's been determined by the peerage committee that black dames are rude or something, i don't know. You mean we have black knights but you can't say black dame? I think so What are you talking about?! I have to go back through the data through the minutes Well we haven't had them but we would do one if we forgot someone wouldn't we? Not sure thats true. I think this happened in the past. This has come up like a couple of years ago Wow! This is very strange to me What am I gonna say? I don't understand. Well, you should write a protest in the form of a memo to the peerage committee and we'll take it up! Okay, I will this is an outrage And maybe she can get her black damehood

1:22:09 I don't know if she'd be the first then. I have to look back into it It's gonna take a lot of research and resources, but it'll be resolved She wants some law school karma trains good planes bad and a milf comment Trying to keep my status as a hot wife going I attach pics to my last email If you missed it you missed it well we missed it and Okay, milf what else did she want it trains good and milf trains good planes bad And it's just some law school karma and jobs. Okay, we can do that Here we go All aboard trains good planes bad

CHAPTER 30 / 57 Discussion

Chinese Social Credit, Bullet Trains, Al Sharpton Jingle

The hosts confirm that audio of a Chinese social credit warning on bullet trains is legitimate, despite their initial skepticism. The announcement warns passengers that their social score will decrease if they are caught without a ticket. The segment transitions into a request for the "Al Sharpton Jitty" jingle from an Australian producer who donated $333.

china· social credit system· bullet trains· al sharpton· jitty

1:23:01 You've got karma Yes speaking of trains I got a note from Think it's professor John dr. John and that would be about the the trains What is it under shut up slave? You know the audio that we had that we thought was possibly a hoax of your social score will go down if you're caught without a ticket. Yes, I thought it was a hoax. Yeah well I think both though it was a hoax

1:23:39 And how can I find this now? He wrote us a nice little note and he says, oh yeah absolutely. I've been on trains all over China on the bullet trains they have it and he says it's completely legit! So they announcement over the PA system in a Chinese bullet train is threatening you with banishment to the outer hinterlands or whatever it is that's terrible. The irony of it is that if you can actually purchase your ticket right then and there on the train or upgrade if you would be in the wrong seat. So, it's not like oh I got caught okay I just want to pay for now he says apparently that's a normal thing to do. Yeah, happens in Europe too but he said no its real

1:24:33 Which is even a little crazy. I'm like, ah that was probably fake but it's kind of real! I don't know how i feel about that. I don't like it no I want one more let make good letter this from last show uh this is the Aussie Andy Cantrell um he said and this is the missing note if you remember I said yes are there jingles included should I get something ready? Let's go lefty thinking all you do Yeah, he wants the L Sharpton Jitty. Okay. Old jitty with it. All right? Some reason that cracks him up now he got kind of I don't want to use the word gypped but he made a contribution of $333 and 33 cents and I remember when it came in it came into 200 something because it was Aussie dollars which we normally credit

CHAPTER 31 / 57 Discussion

Australian Media Bias, Al Jazeera, Israel Lobby

An Australian listener describes himself as a "friendless social pariah" due to his awareness of media bias. The hosts then introduce a censored Al Jazeera documentary about the Israel lobby in the United States, which was recently leaked by Electronic Intifada. They discuss how the government of Qatar reportedly suppressed the film due to national security concerns and pressure from pro-Israel groups.

australia· al jazeera· israel lobby· electronic intifada· qatar

1:25:24 with a bigger amount for the executive producer. Anyway, he's just bitching about that. He says I think I can say that I get more value than most from the podcast as on non-show days I just listen to old episodes through my Bluetooth headset whilst going about my business so I listened to you guys at least 20 hours a week. This has left me a friendless social pariah who finds and complains about media bias everywhere, but I wouldn't have it any other way. Now as an old school lefty," this is very interesting to me because I don't know how many people we can... This is hard, believe me, to do that. And I'm thinking wow okay, I guess we've accomplished something. "'I was an old school lefty before discovering NOAJEND and have yet to succeed in getting any of my friends to listen to the show.'

1:26:20 They won't listen. That's the problem they want them. That's a problem with the left They just thought they don't want to listen because their friends gonna contaminate them There are all too busy ragging on Trump and is in Australia by the way Ragging on Trump and panicking about global warming I believe that Trump hate is some sort of superiority complex at its root Thank you gentlemen for all you do to keep us free from losing our minds Yes Don't lose your mind He's getting lunch Chipotle! Hold on, it's in here. The Cortese... It's in here In the race Kim Kardashian is Sigourney Weaver Rush R-E-S-P-I-C-T They're all JITTY R-E-S-P-I-C-T That's the best place to play it There's no real conflict There you go So we got little JITTY in there That's one of the best songs Whoever put that together was just fantastic I agree

1:27:21 Anyway, that was the last of my current notes and so I woke up trying to catch up. I woke up this morning I'm just gonna do this here and You were on my mind always that's Easy beats Friday on my mind woke up this morning And I had a lot of links to the same video been a lot of There's a lot of people who may see I told you the Jews are trying to kill us What? Oh yeah, I get a lot of that. And you know the typical email is like see you guys don't want to admit it they're trying to replace us! I mean i get some choice emails and it's because of the following which RT just released. It is a documentary in four parts originally or produced by Al Jazeera in 2017.

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Censored Documentary, Undercover Journalism, Qatar Security

Further details are provided on the censored Al Jazeera investigation, including undercover footage of an Israeli consulate worker monitoring student activists. The network allegedly scrubbed the project to avoid jeopardizing the U.S. airbase in Qatar or risking a Saudi invasion. The Zionist Organization of America claimed credit for convincing Qatari officials to cancel the broadcast.

al jazeera· undercover journalism· qatar· zionist organization of america· morton klein

1:28:19 And it's a four-parter, so I've only seen the first part because I only got it this morning. Earl didn't have time to watch two hours of this. I will for Thursday show but here is RT promoing it. For our top international story this hour we are following news that the censored Al Jazeera investigation into the Israel lobby in United States has finally seen the light of day Early on Friday, two episodes from the four-part series were leaked by The Electronic Intifada and France based Orient 21. By the way I did clip this for brevity so i cut out this whole undercover camera because that never works in the podcast if you can't see the subtitles you don't know it's hard to understand so I cut that out RT does this do excess but people say how come you're not doing anything with Project Veritas

1:29:09 Because the audio is atrocious, it is not usable and this is the problem. It's the problem with all that stuff. You know, it's choppy and cut up there is no context everything for context with these things is the same for this documentary half of it is subtitles because its Hebrew or Arabic so sometimes just doesn't work In a clip released by EI earlier in the week Julia Reifkind an American working at the Israeli consulate admits to undercover journalist that she monitors student supporters of Palestine puppet social media accounts on behalf of the embassy. The student group Reifkind refers to in that clip is Students for Justice in Palestine, that's just one of the many explosive scenes from a series which you would think any journalistic organization would be proud to produce

1:29:59 But not Al Jazeera, apparently. See? Despite investing years into researching filming and editing the project and even completing it in 2017 The network opted to censor the production A reminder that Al Jazeera is owned by the Grand Puba of Qatar hated by Saudi Arabia Why? Ironically because its government funder Qatar was influenced by the very groups it was investigating The Israel lobby In June, EI confirmed Jazeera delayed the film's release quote over national security fears including that broadcast of the film could add pressure for the U.S to pull its massive Al

1:30:41 Al-Adeed airbase out of the Gulf state or make a Saudi military invasion more likely. EI adds quote one of the Israel lobby groups whose activities are revealed in the film has been mounting a campaign to convince the US to withdraw its military forces from Qatar which leaders in the Emirate would see as a major blow to their security The pro-Israel lobby group, Zionist Organization of America boasted that its director Morton Klein's quote numerous exhaustive and round the clock meetings in Doha Qatar with the Emir and other top Qatari officials helped convince the government to scrub the project. So you know from what I saw

CHAPTER 33 / 57 Discussion

Hummus Diplomacy, Middle East Conflict, Palestinian Restaurant

In a lighthearted tangent, the hosts suggest that the Middle East conflict is ultimately a dispute over who makes the best hummus. John C. Dvorak recalls visiting a Palestinian restaurant in a Los Angeles alley that served the best handmade hummus he has ever had. They joke that "hummus diplomacy" could solve regional tensions if everyone could agree on a recipe.

hummus· middle east· palestine· los angeles· culinary diplomacy

1:31:23 It's, yeah so there is someone from the embassy and she is talking to students and she's meddling around. Every country has spies that does this to every other country! And I just don't understand what everyone is talking about? You know it's like oh yeah... we got him over representation of Jews in Congress why didn't you vote him out?! If you don't like it. I'm so sick of this Jew-Arab thing and we know that ultimately it's all about hummus, so I'll watch this documentary and I will check in. You don't like hummus? No! That's what all this is ultimately about the Israel thinks that they make better hummus than any Arabs come on We know this is what the real thing is about. Yes, not true. I was in Israel And they took me to an Arab area get their best hummus. I just said that's what the argument is about

1:32:23 That's didn't yes, so I'll watch this thing up and now you got me There is a little part of there's downtown LA we say it some bed-and-breakfast or some reason bed-and-breakfast are the Airbnb and Down to it was in an alley And in that alley there was I gotta get the name of this place It's a restaurant. I'm gonna go on to the Google Maps to do it There's a little, I think it was a Palestinian restaurant in this alley and they make hummus the way they make it in the Middle East. It is handmade in the morning ground up by some old woman with a pestle mortar and stuff. Probably the best hummus that I've ever had in the United States. And I will get the name of this place and we'll get some people getting some hummus. If you want to go to LA, just get some hummus to go. We can solve everything

CHAPTER 34 / 57 Discussion

American Housewife, MTV VJ, Wendy Malick

A clip from the ABC show "American Housewife" featuring Wendy Malick is played, where a character jokes about wanting to be an MTV VJ. The hosts discuss the difficulty of producing comedies without laugh tracks, citing Tina Fey's work as a successful example. They use the clip as a potential "end of show" ISO due to its reference to Adam Curry's former career.

american housewife· wendy malick· mtv vj· tina fey· laugh tracks

1:33:16 We can we can solve the whole Middle East problem if we just get some agreement on the hummus. I'm convinced there's a show i haven't seen it one of our producers Psycho Mike gave Sir Psycho he sent me these clips and uh I'd say because he sent me a clip and then there's an ISO from it too this was from a show called, I'm going to look watch this show check it out It's one of these it's called American Housewife it's on ABC. I've never seen it before but it has Wendy Malick the comedian actress and anything she's in, I think is great and And doesn't have a laugh track which violates you know some of the thing so it has a different style It has a different feeling he shows out laughs tracks are actually harder to do In many ways because you can't you know? It's just they're silent. They're so silent

1:34:06 Nobody's ever done it better, I think than Tina Fey. She does shows without laugh tracks and they actually work well This one is a little like... makes you a little creeped out But this clip The American Housewife clip was sent specifically to me because it's... Well you'll see why Don't you see it? That little bump Oh! I see it There is no bump. You do not have a bump It's nothing you should obsess over, you have a great nose Now if your going to change something I would go with your lips Mom! Its not her fault that she got my thin lips If i had started juicing at her age My whole life would've been different I could've been an MTV VJ What's that? Oh god I've lived too long Wow now there ya go I'm a dinosaur

1:34:56 Thanks, I feel real good now. Here's the MTV VJ clip as a candidate for end of show As an ISO beautiful. I could have been an MTV VJ. What's that? You're in! Congratulations you've done it. Um...I wanted to pick up Topic you know there was another thing that we didn't really get to and talk about and we don't have to talk too much About it, but I do have some other information. I'm going to bring in about this frontline two-part series called the Facebook dilemma Yeah, funny thing about this. I have to say because I'm a big fan of frontline front lines especially at voiceover That's the best everybody says that I mean he's so believable but

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Frontline, Facebook Dilemma, Sheryl Sandberg

The PBS Frontline documentary "The Facebook Dilemma" is analyzed, focusing on Sheryl Sandberg's role in shifting the company's business model toward aggressive data collection. Before the 2012 IPO, Sandberg reportedly pushed for experimenting with user data to reverse flattening revenue. The hosts note Sandberg's background at Google and the U.S. Treasury as evidence of her "deep state" connections.

frontline· facebook· sheryl sandberg· mark zuckerberg· ipo

1:35:43 For some reason, I've not been interested in actually getting this and watching it. I'm not sure why? Well there's a couple of choices... And I have one clip that I want to play. I have more but only going to play one for today The documentary is very interesting Part 1 is very interesting because it really shows you when and how Facebook decided to adjust its business model to the detriment of human life In my view, but the whole thing both part one and part two winds up at the same place Trump I mean it's really disappointing. It was like okay these guys that and I have some thoughts about what maybe happened there But I just want to play this one clip from this Facebook loan. I think this is from part 1 This is just before the IPO which was what 2012 2013? Was later than that

1:36:35 Yeah, it was around there when they really had to make some decisions. Sheryl Sandberg came in and this obviously pertains to the Algos and how they whip people up into a frenzy And that was their saving grace for the IPO and then I'll come back. By the way, Sheryl Sandberg was one of these Council on Foreign Relations women. I think she came out of that office government office that puts up all you know has a whole like the substitute teams. Well she also built the advertising business to a certain degree at Google did she not? Didn't she do something at Google? I thought she did something at Google too

1:37:14 I think you're thinking Marissa. No, i know Marissa well maybe i'm wrong it doesn't matter oh no Sandberg is a heavy hitter from uh the deep state yes in fact Facebook was preparing to take its rapidly growing business to the next level by going public The social media giant hopes to raise $5 billion. The pressure heading into the IPO, of course, was to prove that Facebook was a great business. Otherwise we'd have no shareholders. Facebook—is it worth $100 billion? Should it be valued at... Zuckerberg's challenge was to show investors and advertisers the profit that could be made from Facebook's most valuable asset—the personal data it had on its users.

1:37:56 great as he was at vision and product, he had very little experience in building a big advertising business. That would be the job of Zuckerberg's deputy, Sheryl Sandberg who'd done the same for Google. At Facebook we have a broad mission We want to make the world more open and connected The business model we see today was created by Sheryl Sandberg and the team she built at Facebook, many of whom had been with her at Google. Publicly, Sandberg and Zuckerberg had been downplaying the extent to the personal data Facebook was collecting and emphasizing users' privacy.

1:38:52 then we're failing them. It really is the point that the only things Facebook knows about you are things you've done and told us. But internally, Sandberg would soon lead Facebook in a very different direction. There was a meeting I think it was in March of 2012 It was everyone who built stuff inside ads, myself among them. And she basically recited the reality which is revenue was flattening. It wasn't slow, it wasn't declining but it wasn't growing nearly as fast as investors would have guessed so she basically said like we have to do something you people have to do something and there was a big effort to pull out all the stops and start experimenting way more aggressively

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Data Brokers, Facebook Advertising, Consumer Privacy

The hosts discuss how Facebook partners with third-party data brokers to acquire information on users' offline activities, such as grocery purchases and traffic patterns. This data is more valuable to marketers than personal chat logs or photos. The segment explains that this integration of real-world commercial data is what allows for highly targeted advertising that often feels like the app is "listening."

data brokers· facebook· privacy· best buy· consumer data

1:39:29 The reality is that, yeah Facebook has a lot of personal data. Your chat with your girlfriend or boyfriend, your drunk party photos from college etc... The reality is that none of that is actually valuable to any marketer They want commercially interesting data You know what products did you take off the shelf at Best Buy? What did you buy in your last grocery run? Did it include diapers do you have kids are you ahead of household right It's things like that things that exist in the outside world That just do not exists inside Facebook at all Sandberg's team started developing new ways to collect personal data from users wherever they went on the Internet, and when they weren't on the Internet at all. And so there is this extraordinary thing that happens that doesn't get much attention...at

1:40:09 About four or five months before the IPO, the company announces its first relationship with data broker companies. Companies that most Americans aren't at all aware of that go out and buy up data about each and every one of us. What we buy where we shop where we live what our traffic patterns are what our families are doing where likes are what magazines we read The consumer doesn't even know that's being collected about them because it's being collected from the rest of their lives by companies they don't know. And it's now being shared with Facebook so that Facebook can target ads

1:40:45 Back to the user so when we heard about the data brokers, I think I was confused as well. I thought that they were selling the data to the data brokers But it's exactly the opposite now if you're wondering why Facebook ads and it's not just Facebook Ads I'm sure everyone has it everyone anyone can buy this data It's from a data broker for Christ sakes That that's why you're getting You know The odd types of things that you think admit may be listening to you the app? I don't know but it knows a heck of a lot about what you're doing in the real life world. And they implemented that just before the IPO and it worked because everything went crazy with the revenue. I wanna back up here and mention Sandberg, she's the vice president of global online sales in operations at Google since she was still a COO. By the way has she had that much to do with what's going on? I think she just guided it. Could be. She was involved in launching Google's philanthropic arm, Google Org before Google

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Facebook Research, Political Mobilization, 2010 Midterms

A 2012 study from Facebook Research reveals that the company conducted a massive experiment on 61 million users during the 2010 midterms to influence voter turnout. The study claimed that "social contagion" messages increased turnout by 340,000 votes. The hosts express shock that this direct manipulation of elections by Facebook is rarely discussed in congressional hearings.

facebook research· political mobilization· 2010 midterms· voter turnout· social contagion

1:41:48 She served as the chief of staff for the United States Treasury, Secretary of Treasury Lawrence Summers. But she came out of that group. There's this one organization within the government of these, you know, substitutes. You need a chief of staff? They bring one in from this crowd. She is super stuff... One of these they're considered very high level. They don't even get the same kind of government pay. They get more money and they're used as hit men kind of it's like a Hitman operation within the government that they use to feed. That's how Trump gets all these people Still doing work after firing people because they bring them in from this one organization So I was just doing a little bit of research on on Facebook, and they actually have their research arm has a You know had their own website And it's typical researchers they put everything up there and now I was really looking to see but I guess I came up with a with

1:42:46 with the thesis, you know. The idea that Facebook and fake news and bots and the Russians were their rubles that had somehow changed the election and tilted it all in Hillary's favor based on what we think was what? Was it $100,000 dollars? Was that kind of a number? Tilted it all in Trumps favor So I'm thinking maybe just maybe... And this also goes back to Hillary joking about Zuckerberg, you know that he says they all look alike which I think was a reference to you know Cory Booker and an Eric Holder Oh No They they all look alike don't they? I think that might have been in reference to the artificial intelligence That can't seem to get darker skin tones right can't I don't know what it is But no somebody sent a note specifically saying what it was we'll get to that later but there was some references something that happened between the news and

1:43:40 and Kara, when she interviewed him. Oh I didn't know that okay we're good but let's just say just for a moment that Hillary loses they have to somehow blame this on Russia because there are actually they colluded with Russia and with the UK with intelligence services to get you know the Steele report and we're gonna blame it on you know somehow on Facebook pages And I'm thinking that, you know this is how my thinking went. It's like maybe they just had some algos battling it took them a long time and they came up with $100,000 worth of fake pages with controversy and maybe it was just bots who the hell knows? Maybe it was Facebook's own bots I guess what I am saying because they're not

1:44:33 They're no strangers to manipulating things when it comes to voting and this is what I stumbled upon, a study that was published in 2012. And this is from Facebook Research. A 61 million person experiment in social influence and political mobilization. This is from 2012 but the actual study took place in 2010 Here it is. Here we report the results from a randomized controlled trial of political mobilization messages delivered to 61 million Facebook users during the 2010 US congressional election, so that's the midterms of 2010 and they... I was just gonna say before you go on what didn't like around five or six years ago on our show

1:45:26 Wasn't there this moment where Facebook was busted for doing one of these? Well, that was different. That's what I thought I was going to find that was the survey where they put happy stuff in your feed and saw if you were posting happy stuff if they put negative stuff so they've been doing different kinds of experiments This is almost like the army but wait asking the public John They actually this was a real-world test They took 61 million Facebook users, as in self-identified by party affiliation And they conducted a number of experiments showing your friends saying I voted, showing your friends' friends saying I voted. The results show that online political mobilization can have a direct effect on political self-expression information seeking and real world voter behavior They claim in the results of this survey

1:46:26 that our results suggest the Facebook social message increased turnout directly by 60,000 votes and indirectly through social contagion virality by another 280 thousand votes for a total of 340 thousand additional votes. That represents 0.14% percent of the voting age population of about 236 million in 2010 so they actually measured in total and they have a number here. Here, the results suggest that Friends generated an additional 886 000 expressed votes! They changed voting behavior now maybe it was just to get people to vote for the party they were going to vote for anyway but as far back as 2010 they were doing this stuff

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Chatbots, Algorithmic Sorting, 2016 Election

Facebook's research into chatbots and algorithmic information sorting is linked to attempts to change user attitudes and voting behavior. The hosts suggest that while Russia was blamed for election interference, Facebook's own internal experiments in "political mobilization" were far more significant. They also note that Twitter's political ad revenue remains surprisingly low compared to traditional TV spending.

chatbots· algorithmic sorting· 2016 election· behavior change· twitter

1:47:16 And they were, I'm sure the sales guys, Sheryl Sandberg were saying look at what we can do. We can get your people out to vote with an incredible increase and this is not discussed anywhere Now fast forward to their next test which was shut down in 2017 right after the election in February and these were the headlines Facebook chat bots create their own language Facebook takes them offline And they were doing basically negotiations between bots, but if you look at the research data which they've also published Here's what it was about algorithmic Information sorting these technologies have the potential to expose individuals to more diverse viewpoints They also have the potential to limit exposure exposure to attitude challenging information Which is associated with the adoption of more extreme attitudes over time

1:48:15 And they did this with another 10 million people. They have been trying to figure out how to change people's minds or get them to vote, anyway... To motivate them to do something specifically in voting and they did it during the elections! This needs to be discussed. We're discussing it I know but maybe a wider audience. I'm shocked by this. Not shocked but I'm shocked no one has ever talked about this You think it would have been brought up in the congressional hearings? They got people working there that know... No, they don't do crap. Beyond the direct effects of online mobilization we show the importance of social influence for affecting behavior change our validation study shows that close friends exerted about four times more influence on the total number of validated voters mobilized than the message itself more broadly

1:49:09 The results suggest that online messages might influence a variety of offline behaviors. This has implications for understanding of the role of online social media in society." Yeah, no shit Sherlock! So what if these guys were really doing stuff and maybe they were just blamed for cover? And it kind of got out of control because it turns out that there's actually a lot of stuff that, that's going on with Facebook. Maybe it was all hey we'll find some bullcrap Russia stuff why didn't they show I mean? That's what I would have said okay here's what's going in a congressional hearing here is what we found here the research we've done you know this can actually... There something to this maybe no none of that. Maybe because people want to exploit so they don't wanna talk about it

1:49:59 I'm just surprised this all this research they've been doing in changing people's votes during elections. Well, they didn't change the vote... In the secondary 2016 election they had bots fighting each other and they called it negotiating and they shut that down right after the election And that was to influence political challenges and challenges in behavior Well, this would be a very powerful advertising tool for somebody running for office. No kidding? Although it didn't get Hillary elected. Nope! And it seems like the... let me see Twitter has announced they got 2.1 million dollars in advertising from all campaigns in this cycle that seems low

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Google Walkout, Sexual Harassment, Andy Rubin

Google employees worldwide walked out to protest the company's handling of sexual harassment claims, specifically the $90 million exit package given to Android creator Andy Rubin. Protesters criticized the "negligent" culture regarding abuse of power and inequities. The hosts observe that mainstream media outlets, which compete with Google for ad revenue, have been surprisingly slow to amplify these negative stories.

google walkout· sexual harassment· andy rubin· new york times· exit packages

1:50:55 Yeah, it looks like they went back to TV. Three Democrats are buying almost all the campaign ads on Twitter only 2.1 million has been spent on political ads since it began tracking in June that's from Bloomberg. I don't even know how those ads are presented on Twitter because apparently one of those accounts doesn't get ads. Anyway... Someone told me about this you know certain accounts do not get ads No, it could be you got a check mark. Maybe you don't get ads if you have a check mark I have a check mark Anyway did you see all the well about a quarter of the Google workforce? Laid down with Oh groovy groovy and the reason I'm gonna before I play the clip

1:51:33 You can find it, Google Walkout. Is that another reason I listen to Democracy Now! is because the mainstream media would not do this story. Why? On Thursday, Google workers around the world walked out to protest the company's handling of sexual harassment and abuse. Democracy Now! spoke with New York City Google employee and protester Dama Rodriguez I am excited that enough is enough is enough because everybody who works at Google has busted their backs, their a**es, their lives. Have biased, have walked, have gotten the grades, have shown up in order to be the best at what they do and it's unacceptable! It is absolutely disgusting

1:52:22 that you can be less than exceptional and worse than not, you can be negligent about sexual assaults, sexual harassment, abuse of power. Inequities across every pillar that we have to know We will bring the consequences. The protests came one week after The New York Times published a damning report detailing sexual misconduct at Google, a number of high-level male executives accused of sexual harassment and sexual assault have received millions in exit packages from Google. Yeah this is fun to watch

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Media Competition, Google Black Box, MeToo Movement

The hosts speculate on why newspapers aren't more aggressive in reporting Google's scandals, given that tech giants have decimated the traditional media's advertising base. They suggest that the "black box" nature of Google makes it difficult for information to leak from employees. They also predict that the MeToo movement will eventually hit Apple with similar intensity.

google· craigslist· advertising revenue· metoo· apple

1:53:02 I'm really enjoying it, but they're not playing it even locally. They don't play this story Yeah, they didn't you know the the Googlers in Austin? They did not actually stand on the street They went down and were in the lobby so was that was not a spectacle But just think for a second. I don't know who who is walking out, but man. I'd be worried. I think Google really And with all technology companies, it really hangs together from trust with your employees because it doesn't take much to put something in somewhere that could be really disastrous. Right? Yes. Now I just find the whole thing weird that there's stories being suppressed and and it makes no sense to me for the following reason... Because I'm a newspaper or a media outlet Google is my competition

1:53:59 Yeah, you want to slap them down. You'd think because they're taking money... Google Facebook Twitter I'm a newspaper those guys and let's put Craigslist in there Those guys are eating my lunch what can i do about it? By ignoring all the stories that are bad about them how is that helping? yeah I don't know The Times got smart and they did a hit piece. A hit piece on what? On Google? Yeah, that's what she's talking about at the end of that clip Well that's how it started That's when the start is when The Times announced I think it was the guy who sold Android

1:54:42 To to Google Andy Rubin Rudin Rubin. I don't know yeah, so he sexually a sexually assaulted some women HR confirmed it they let him go with a 90 million dollar exit package which I think was probably part of the purchase or something but anyway doesn't matter because that's being construed as an Google condones it and of course has been 40 or 50 different examples of that where Google has not made a big me too moment about anything. Of course, man wait until that hits Apple. Oh yeah! Wait until that hits Apple

1:55:21 So, you know these I don't know. I just see this as a very challenging problem for the black box known as Google. There's no way to get any information from the employees You can't do anything they don't care They don't consider anyone a customer except the advertiser and now there are you know Now this number there's a crack, you know, there's a little opening there And nothing is gonna be complicated for him well on the sexual harassment beat yes I don't know if you ever played this clip, but this is from over a year ago and then it got brought back as some sort of a slam against NBC. But I clipped the piece of this woman who came on, I think it was in The New York Times complained about Tom Brokaw. Remember her?

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Tom Brokaw, Sexual Assault Allegations, NBC News

A clip of a former NBC correspondent accusing Tom Brokaw of "assault" by tickling her waist in 1993 is played. The hosts debate whether the incident constitutes an assault or merely rude behavior, noting the woman's claim of being "low on the totem pole." They view the resurfacing of this story as part of a broader target on NBC executives like Andy Lack.

tom brokaw· nbc news· sexual assault· tickling· denver

1:56:11 Mmmmm. Oh, about what? About Tom Brokaw in the hotel room? Well yeah, Tom Brokaw this, Tom Brokaw that but I just thought...I don't know why this showed up again but i want to play because for some reason I get a kick out of this story For a decade I worked at NBC News as an anchor and correspondent I was groped and assaulted by Tom Brokaw then the anchor of NBC Nightly News This is my story I was a brand new newly hired correspondent for NBC News for Weekend Today. And, I was sent to Denver in August of 93 to cover the Pope's trip there and while I was standing in the Denver Bureau with my back to the door from behind me out of nowhere Tom Brokaw walked up

1:57:05 put his hands on my waist and tickled me all up and down my waist. I remember it was physically unpleasant and humiliating, i jumped afoot, i looked at the editor of nightly news in the eye he looked back at me and his jaw dropped and i was completely humiliated in front of a room full of my colleagues. I jumped got out of the way got out of his grasp no one did anything There was really nothing I could say or do because I was so low on the totem pole that I had just Had to get out of there as quickly as possible and try to go on and do my job covering the Pope Yeah, so why do you bring it up? I remember it. Well because This was what she considered in assault Yes And the more I hear it, it's not thing I would doing in office But if I saw somebody do that

1:58:06 And I can imagine it and i think maybe, I've seen it. I'm not sure you know because there are ticklish people out there and they do it to men and women Some joker you know this is guys that Do stuff like this? I don't think okay go ahead well no tell me what you think I think It's rude and I think it's a definitely rude and it's you know physical contact so just Don't think of it as an assault yeah Well let's I'm again. I'm not sure why you're bringing this up we kind of went through this well It's because you were brought to sexual harassment thing. I thought it just had this clip It's just something like yeah, this clip is he has me completely baffled and they You know and it's again the thing they're going after NBC there already gotten everyone that could I think out and oh

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Jamal Khashoggi, Muslim Brotherhood, Saudi Slander

The Washington Post reports that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman attempted to slander Jamal Khashoggi by calling him a member of the Muslim Brotherhood in a call with John Bolton. The hosts critique Democracy Now's confusing coverage of whether Khashoggi was a "formal" or "informal" member. They argue that Khashoggi's support for the Brotherhood was well-documented and not necessarily a "slanderous" fabrication.

jamal khashoggi· mohammed bin salman· muslim brotherhood· john bolton· washington post

1:59:00 on one thing or another. Oh no, Andy Lack there's tons of people still left. Well Andy Lack he is being targeted I mean you can see his pictures in Variety all the time they're accusing him of one thing or another yeah well the ultimate win will be of course the smashing success of House of Cards with our female president. I predict this, and I'm going to watch it, but I think it'll be really good. I like... what's her name? Robin Wright. She liked her so much! But this is back to Michael Moore you know just let the women run the world Well they're gonna definitely if they're gonna do this they have to bring in their top writer So that thing will probably will be good Now you mentioned something in a newsletter about Kshakji

1:59:49 Yes. Do you have anything to bring to the show regarding Kastuji? What did I say in the newsletter about him? You said that, as you know Adam predicted that MBS would be out and you say well he's still got some tricks up his sleeve and so I figured we'd talk about that what do you got? Well i do have the official Shishoshi story on Democracy Now! Hold on a second there is no better than that. O-F-F Jamal Kastuji Okay, the Washington Post is reporting Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman tried to slander slain Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi falsely claiming the journalist was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood during a call with National Security Advisor John Bolton and what falsely Isn't that well known?

2:00:40 Well, listen to this carefully go back it up a little bit and listen to it carefully and you see how they weasel out of It I don't understand this story at all Muslim Brotherhood during the call with national We just started over. Oh my god again The Washington Post is reporting Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman tried to slander slain Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi falsely claiming the journalist was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood during a call with National Security Advisor John Bolton and White House Senior Adviser Jared Kushner in the days after Khashoggi's disappearance. OK, so if I understand what she says is that he said that during a call with Bolton and it is the...I don't understand

2:01:30 Let's continue. Is that the whole clip? No, no, no. I'm just trying to understand it all you'll understand more in a minute. So I'll do it one more time and shut up The Washington Post is reporting Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman tried to slander slain Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi falsely claiming the journalist was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood during a call with National Security Advisor John Bolton and White House senior advisor Jared Kushner In the days after Khashoggi's disappearance The Muslim Brotherhood is classified by Saudi Arabia as a terrorist organization. Khashoggi was not a formal member of the Muslim Brotherhood, today marks one month since Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi walked into the Saudi consulate in Istanbul and was assassinated." Wow! So you know it's like the KKK I guess? We don't really have a membership card? I don't think there's a membership card for their Muslim brotherhood... No, of course not

2:02:28 And what is it like when he was an unofficial? What is this? He wasn't a former, formal. What is she talking about? That's why I see why the clip is interesting. I didn't expect you not to be confused because it was confusing, it was stupid! But this is the kind of crazy reporting that you get from these people. Well in the meantime while this is all playing out on... This huge supporter stopped he was a huge supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood Yes, he's written about it. He wasn't a former formal member yeah okay? Oh Yeah Well how's that slandering him or they tried to slander him I mean there's lots of people who are members You got to remember democracy now most of these super progressives They really hate Israel and their pro-palestinian And all this messaging comes out of that that basis yes But its

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Iran Sanctions, SWIFT Alternative, Russian SPFS

As U.S. sanctions on Iran kick in, Russia is promoting its SPFS system as an alternative to the SWIFT payment network. India, Turkey, and China are reportedly engaging with this new network to facilitate oil trades outside of U.S. control. The hosts note that SWIFT is headquartered in Belgium and that technology is making traditional financial sanctions increasingly meaningless.

iran sanctions· swift· russia· spfs· belgium

2:03:27 Yeah, well and so now we have the grand scale. We have the Muslim Brotherhood, we have Iran, we have Turkey still in the midst, we have Saudi Arabia I'm not quite sure... is everyone just pissed about them being a-holes for a long time? And now that this is finally the way we try and hit back at them? I am not sure what is happening but I do know that with these the Iran sanctions kicking in tomorrow Russia has a alternative to the swift payment system, which I think they're getting everybody on India Iran and maybe China

2:04:07 And you know, Swift is a... Is that completely US owned? The payment system. I don't know who owns it though, look it up But uh You know its basically just an intranet where your shuttling message, encrypted messages saying okay Uhh..I sent you this money and you send me that money Its not, its just data It's just the data network, there's nothing special but To create a network like that does take a little time, certainly before it's being penetrable. It is owned by the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunications Right so our idea is that we cut them off so then no one can trade with them and Russia says oh it's okay because our system is good to go! Let me see what its called...it's the SPFS Special System for Transfer of Financial Messages That is okay Moscow was engaged with China Turkey Iran

2:04:58 all on this payment network. So basically, thanks to technology this sanction is going to be meaningless they're just going to do trades for oil in whatever else they can transfer. We'll screw with that there's no doubt about it some day it's not gonna work out where you think Swift is headquartered? Oh good question Switzerland close If it's not Switzerland... What country do I always point the finger at as trying to run the world? Belgium. Yeah! Makes nothing but sense!

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Associate Executive Producers, Donation Credits, Mimi's Birthday

The hosts read the credits for Associate Executive Producers who donated $50 or more, including Steve Regnier and Eric from Parts Unknown. They acknowledge several "anonymous" donations and birthday wishes for Mimi Dvorak, who is jokingly referred to as being 39 years old. The segment reinforces the show's reliance on direct producer support rather than traditional advertising.

executive producer· mimi dvorak· birthday· value-for-value· anonymous

2:05:53 We have a few people to thank for show 1083 starting with Steve Regnier. He needs to de-douching. Came in with 150 bucks and he wants to call Cyrus out as a douchebag! And he also compliments me for the Grimerica interview and he says, Adam you're next. Yeah maybe Crunch 128 dollars. What is this note here? So to Adam C Curry and John C DeVorek for helping me and Christina curry Tina the keeper Mimi J The adorable the chef the shill and the whole curry Dvorak no agenda family for helping you Thank you for letting me know that I'm not insane or that I'm in good company if I am There you go being good company with the insane new agenda family, right just insane

2:06:55 Insane! Eric 100, from Parts Unknown. Baron Ladequin in Houston Texas 100 John Robinet I think is Sir of Parts Unknown and his things Joseph Yona in Ludlow Vermont Hey he's waiting for his autograph 30th wedding Yes we are working on that as we speak And we'll get that out Mimi gave me crap about it the other day too Gilles Pavo in Paris, France. I would say Gilles, Gilles, Gilles Pavo A Frenchman? Yeah 8102 yeah i know i was like stunned and donation long overdue he says the donates french sounds french to make him a knight he wants to be a certain king jetty

2:07:45 Nice! Sir En-Getty. Get it? Sir and Sir Engetty, yes. And if I read the peerage map properly, I would be part of the protectorate of Sir Stephen von Pausemacher's. Yes Grand Duke Yeah he has, he owns France. And I think Belgium didn't we just give him Belgium too? Thank you Gilles, I look forward to the ceremony. Just swift banking system Or as they say le ceremony Angela in Alzheimer. This is the one that we read? Yeah, I sent a note. Right. Read the note already. Edward Posh in Omaha, Nebraska 6006 Small Boob Ronald Cotter in Chandler Arizona 5999 and then to round things off on a very short list I might add 23 including the people at the top very short list

2:08:40 How many people get our newsletter? 18,000. 18263 Sir Brett Farrell in Oklahoma City 50 Bradley Leden parts unknown Scott these are all $50 donors Scott E Knight in Los Wages Nevada Villa Real Villa Real and Mercedes Texas Matthew Januszewski, Sir Matthew Januszewski in Chicago Illinois and Paul van de Kordelaar in I-I-Oumoudin. I'm outing! I'm outing! That's it that's all we got. I walk on the streets of Holland people go yeah

2:09:20 Thanks. Thanks a lot. We also got to cut, we won't mention them because that is under the 50 level for anonymous reasons but we did get another one. A lot of people say, Mimi happy birthday? I want to, they'll all be mentioned to her but it won't be mentioned on the show because of the cutoff. It wasn't that many it was ten But thats...I thought that was a pretty interesting way to do is say yeah say happy birthday to Mimi not sure how old she is somewhere between 39 and 100 so just to be on the safe side do $39 I was expecting some joker to come in with, I know she's 99 but no. None of that. No jokers would have been funny very short number of jokers today but we do thank the people that supported the show 23 of well i think there is at least 18 thousand people who listen on it could be more We really don't know because we don't have ads and we don't need to show how many people are engaged How much engagement we have to advertisers

2:10:22 Because they can't imagine having advertisers this should we'd be off the air before even really started the first hour So no, we don't do that. We have support from our producers and we want to thank everybody who came in over 50 and under 50 of course a lot of that is for as I said anonymity but also A lot of our sustaining programs you can find more about that at Dvorak org slash na Thank you very much And uh, we got some karmas for people as requested dvorak dot org Slash n jobs jobs Jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs You've got karma.

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Knighting Ceremony, Sir En-Getty, MAGA Bomber Update

A formal knighting ceremony is held for Sir En-Getty, a French producer who donated over $1,000. The hosts then provide a brief update on "MAGA bomber" Cesar Sayoc, noting that his attorney claims the government's DNA evidence is weak. They express skepticism about the timing of the incident just before the midterm elections.

knighting· sir en-getty· chardonnay· maga bomber· cesar sayoc

2:11:21 Baron Mark Tanner himself celebrated yesterday on the third. Dame Lauren and Sir Max say happy birthday to Mark, Edward Pash celebrates on the sixth and happy birthday to Mimi Dvorak 39 years old today she still reads a newspaper without her glasses and we say happy birthday from all your friends here at The Best Podcast in the Universe! And then we have our one knighting, a France-France knighting this is very nice If we can have a special one here, special French sword. Oh yeah. She's ding is stuck. There we go sounds a lot like the other one. Step right up to the podium mon ami thank you very much for your support of The No Agenda show in the amount of $1,000 or more that gets you a seat at The No Agenda round table with their knights and our dames and I'm very pleased and proud to pronounce the KV sir

2:12:16 and Getty! Yes, for you we have Hookers & Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay Cookies & Vodka, Single Malt Scotch, Onion Rings & Ice Cream English muffins with butter and honey Diet soda and video games Fish Pie and Felicia We got Harlots & Howl Dolls. We got Organic Macaroni & Plasticizers Beer & Blunts We got breast milk and pap, ginger ale and gerbils, bong hits and bourbon, geishas and sake, rubenesque rumen and rosé. And for you mutton and mead, mouton et meade! You can find that... well it'll balance way to you if you go to noagendination.com slash rings and Eric the show will gladly take your girth measurements and send off the correct size ring to you. Please we'd love to add a tweet of our French knight Do we have any other French knights or is this the only one?

2:13:02 Well, there's one in Paris pretty much every 24 hours. Update on the MAGA bomber? Oh by the way I also want to do a call out to Deborah Oliver who has run out of money and make sure that she gets part of that jobs karma at the end. Absolutely! Update on the MAGA bomber... It wasn't really big news, but this was the report outside his attorney spoke to reporters one of them described SAC as a quote the most respectful client I've ever had which is why we took the case and another attorney made reference to the weakness of the government's DNA evidence Noting that criminal complaint described possible DNA a standard that does not hold up in a court of law Yeah nasty DNA again. What yeah? That's possible DNA match there was no positive match

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Golden State Killer, DNA Databases, Bill Maher

The capture of the Golden State Killer via a relative's DNA in a public database is discussed. The hosts recount a story of the killer murdering a man who had publicly insulted him, using it as a cautionary tale about "incentivizing psychos." They suggest Bill Maher is doing something similar by publicly boasting about being on a hit list.

golden state killer· dna database· joseph deangelo· bill maher· murder

2:13:57 I don't have any good on him just yet. Is this bull crap in the public? Well, has he admitted to anything that you know of? No! Oh well of course we don't have anything. Did they find bomb making material or...anything? I have no information all i know is that uh this thing mmmmm bogus i dunno You think this whole thing may be a hoax? Nah it's not a hoax Bob Just before the midterms? Gee that would be what they call an October surprise nah can't have any of that None of that. Bill Maher almost got one? I love his self-outing It's like, oh! I was on the list didn't want to be left off That reminds me you know this we had this murderer

2:14:42 Bill Marsh would probably just shut up. We had this murderer out here that was finally caught after like 30 or 40 years, he's a famous... He was a cop, he murdered dozens and dozen of people in very brutal way then we got married and had child and they stopped doing his murderous stuff but they caught him from some... This is the first case where they caught somebody based on DNA related to somebody else. They had some of his DNA and then they found a relative using because they, you know, they use the database. Oh yeah yeah I remember this and this guy was caught in Sacramento i believe he's just a surly ex-police guy murderer Yeah your typical surly ex police guy murder He made mention of one...he murdered some

2:15:32 There was some guy in one of the regions where he's doing his murdering and some joker came out and said something publicly about this guy. We're going to, he's a, he's an idiot we're going to catch him. He said just set some things and it did murder heard about it. So he decided to go murder this guy and his wife at first, of course murdered the wife in front of this guy saying you got a big mouth then they murdered the guy And nice move. It seems to me, yeah it just seems to me that when you got psychos out there You don't want to incentivize them and that's what Mars kind of doing when he does that Yeah well we should probably take our own advice seriously Well we don't really get complete We know no I don't think they were not lying about being on somebody's hit list No That's true That we know of

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Anthony Scaramucci, Thanksgiving Special, The Mooch

John C. Dvorak reveals he interviewed Anthony "The Mooch" Scaramucci for an upcoming Thanksgiving special. Dvorak claims to be the only interviewer to ask Scaramucci about his New York restaurant, the Hunt & Fish Club, which surprised the former White House Communications Director. The hosts discuss the logistics of setting up high-quality remote interviews using listener-producers in Manhattan.

anthony scaramucci· the mooch· thanksgiving· restaurant· hunt & fish club

2:16:27 So, Thanksgiving is coming up. It is a holy celebration on the NOAA Gender Show where we will usually do a special program and then we will of course listen to John's real explanation of Thanksgiving It's almost like the night before Christmas reading, you know. We all learn what a bullcrap holiday it has become. I try to add something to it every year. Now because I have a little teaser can we talk about our special guest or your special guest for that show? Or do you want keep it under wraps? Well when I get another guess well depends if we're going to run interviews on that show

2:17:05 Are we going to do this show? I thought it was going to be interview special interviews. Yeah, that's what i thought yeah but so i Tom when's my when's my Thanksgiving thesis is during the oh in the opening and the opening of We always do the opening show yeah we do the opening we talk about it and then we play the we have a special guest and tom starkweather who helped you out yes Tom Starkweather produced a I did an interview with the Mooch the Mooch Scaramouche. And I brought up something in the interview that nobody else has brought up, I read his book and... That must have been surprising to him Yeah he says only me and his mom is the only ones who know. His book just came out! No one reads no one reads the books when they're interviewing, no one. They don't they don't read them but there's good stuff in this book but one of the things you just kind of glosses over passes through it shoots right by it is the fact that he owns a restaurant

2:17:58 And so he's always this restaurant, so I'm the one who asked him about it. In the interview you'll find out where the restaurant is in New York what kind of a place it is and all the rest of it, the details of the restaurant and then I sent a note to his secretary said I think i'm the only one that's interviewed this guy ever, that has ever mentioned how to plug his restaurant. Can I have a free table and meal? Was your next question. I said...I wouldn't mind a comp You did didn't you! Of course! Shameless! A comp What is wrong with asking for a comp?!

2:18:37 And so she sent me a note back kind of jokingly saying, yeah we'll look into it. In other words I'm not going to get my comp but... Well so here's what's interesting about this first of all we have the best producers in the world And what I like about this format that we're starting to, I did it with Pachinik and you've done it with Mooch. And then now I'm looking at some people the interview what's great about our value for value network is we make a call out and say anyone in Manhattan who couldn't do name Ben Burton dudette named Bernadette who can help us out set up so we have a Skype and a good mic and you know some

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Al Gore Avatar, Scaramucci Interview, South Park E-Scooters

A clip from the pre-interview with Anthony Scaramucci shows his confusion over John C. Dvorak's Skype avatar, which depicted Al Gore as a "raving lunatic." The hosts joke about Scaramucci's concern regarding the "outfit" he was talking to. The segment ends with a brief mention of a South Park episode about e-scooters, which Adam Curry found highly relatable.

al gore· anthony scaramucci· skype· south park· e-scooters

2:19:16 good audio until we can really record a good interview. Instead, you know you can't rely on any guests to have Skype with all this be using the webcam mic etc so Tom goes there and who I've never met Tom does a lot of our end-of-show mixes So he sets it all up and he has and so the mooch is coming in And this is my little teaser clip the mooch is coming in and you have to know John is one of the few people on his Skype He changes the icon of Skype a lot. You know your avatar well one day It's Hillary then it's the cat with the stupid green melon on his head, and then it's Rachel Maddow And I guess for Halloween it was

2:19:56 Jason from Friday the 13th here is the pre of those Al Gore. That's Al Gore in that picture all right It's all good John how are you can hear me? Yeah, can you hear me I can hear him looking at this logo here That's like a Halloween logo right what's going on there That's one of our covers arts for no agenda show we do different cover arts I was kind of fond to that one showing Al Gore as a as a raving lunatic. Yeah, I'm not like it. I just wonder why it's like 13th in theaters now yeah well Lower the volume is a tiny bit all right well great Thanks for having me on you tell me when you're ready and I'm ready I think he was a little worried about what kind of outfit He was talking to

2:20:47 That was his concern. I had to be careful, I didn't get off the deep end because I had different ways that could go at the interview so it kind of kept me from asking about three or four questions that I didn't want to ask. Excellent. Yeah no, I just said that. He probably... maybe I shouldn't have used that as a car. I could've used crying Rachel, I like that one. You know poor Tom he probably put on a suit trying to look all professional and shit? Oh yeah, you know he's all dolled up yeah Yeah, he's ready to go. He was like hello I'm from the No Agenda show it was looking like a fed almost but he was perfect and then bring up you know the guy comes in sits down what the hell is this outfit? Al Gore with a bloody machete hmmm...I thought that was pretty funny yes thank you everybody I did see an error in judgment It's okay yeah he seemed okay Was there good interview

2:21:38 Thought so when I went over they would wanted to give us 45 minutes. We went an hour five whoo you rebel He kind of he kind of like ended it all the blue I'm gonna have to cut that ending off because it makes it sound like he's sick of me, but Like the truth Just look at his watch a lot like I'm sick of ya just sick of had it Thank you everybody. You do not have to email me that the South Park episode was all about the damn e-scooters I watched it and it's pretty funny This is a pretty good Episode yeah, it reminded me of me

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Southern Strategy, Nixon, Historical Textbooks

A listener-teacher provides a textbook definition of the "Southern Strategy," describing it as Richard Nixon's 1972 attempt to appeal to disillusioned Southern Democrats. The hosts argue that the idea of a "complete flipping" of the parties is an oversimplification taught by "lazy teachers." They suggest that while Nixon sought conservative voters, it did not represent a total ideological swap between Republicans and Democrats.

southern strategy· richard nixon· george wallace· blexit· history teachers

2:22:19 So we have, we did talk a little bit about Southern strategy on and off. And I also had a clip from Buchanan but I got to teach her that wrote in and Sir Ryan Thompson... Can I just set it up so people understand what we're talking about? Oh yeah why don't you give us the background around this. Uh, I have noticed that there is amongst black Americans a meme But it also, and thank you by the way for the hundreds of people who have sent in their experiences with this. The diversity of our audience, our producers is quite astounding in age, race background education etc., and its kind of like, almost like a urban myth

2:22:58 that appears, although we don't have a large enough sample of African-Americans in our production audience who responded. It appears that there's this myth that somewhere around the 60s that the racists switched and the racist all became Republicans instead of Democrats and it's a lot more nuanced, a lot more complicated than that but that is appears to be something that a lot of people I would say probably 80% of everyone who wrote in about it say yes this is my belief no one can show me where they were taught at school which I don't think it's in any books. That would be abhorrent if it was

2:23:39 But it does seem to be one of these, you know things like Richard Gere in the gerbil. You know It's just a truth that perpetrates forever Thanks for that image so Ryan Thompson the teacher writes in and I'll read this note because he has a few thing his one of we're gonna probably doing this is thematically for a while Because there's a lot that yes coming in about this I don't want to beat it to death but we've got to beat it to death in some way Checking in, Sir Ryan and regards to your discussion of the Southern Strategy. I was interested that most of your feedback from producers was anecdotal experiences without referencing actual textbook material. I guess I should not be too surprised since as I teach myself, I know how little kids actually read the material I give them. So attached a picture from the textbook when I used to teach modern US history to juniors. And we'll summarize what it says in the book he has a picture of a book

2:24:33 I will summarize what it says and what I would tell my students. The Southern strategy was Nixon's attempt in 1972 to appeal to the disillusioned Democrat voters in the South who felt Johnson's Great Society was too far-reaching, and that the Supreme Court was leaning too liberal Nixon and his advisors thought that they could appeal with more conservative message to these voters because of the success of the independent presidential candidate, George Wallace who was able to split the Democrat vote in the South during the 1968 election. To Nixon this demonstrated a break in the Democrat party over issues such as desegregation and integration while there's really no definitive conclusion as to whether the strategy worked or not

2:25:17 and Buchanan believes it didn't. It does not represent a complete flipping of the parties as far as ideological beliefs, if students are leaving school thinking that I believe it is because of lazy teachers thinking that I believe it. Oh you think we will anyway? He thinks it's because of lazy teachers who are offering oversimplified headlines to historical events instead of providing real content and analysis So that doesn't conclude, that doesn't help. It doesn't help and I'm glad you brought it up because i have a clip that came out yesterday on BBC and this is specifically about Blexit and was Candace Owens who I heard first say hey we've been taught the party switch not just voters but politicians which is another vague point

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BBC Blexit Coverage, KKK Origins, Candace Owens

The BBC's coverage of the "Blexit" movement is criticized for its patronizing tone toward black American conservatives. The BBC reporter disputes the claim that Democrats created the KKK, arguing it was "individuals who were Democrats" rather than the party itself. The hosts mock this distinction as linguistic parsing and defend the Blexit movement's historical claims about the Democratic Party's ties to slavery and segregation.

bbc· blexit· candace owens· kkk· democratic party

2:26:13 But what BBC did is, in this clip they review the Blexit website and what they are getting wrong about America's history. So here is the British imperially funded BBC Telling our black Americans what they get wrong about their own history. It should be fun to listen to What is the new political movement that's got America talking blacks it blacks it blacks? It it's called black sit or black exit The goal is to get african-americans who traditionally support the Democratic Party To ditch them in favor of the Republicans I'm convinced that liberals are

2:27:01 hate black conservatives. It's been started by a group of conservative African Americans and they have a Blexit website, and on that website are number of what they call truths reasons they believe that black Americans shouldn't vote Democrat So how true are these truths? Well let's start with this one which is about the KKK, the racist white supremacist group. The Blexit website claims that the Democrats created the KKK so is this claim true well let us ask our political reporter Anthony Zerka. I love it you can tell by the setup that she's pretty much saying you people you blexits don't know your own history that's what this British woman is saying

2:27:42 So the claim is the Democrat Party started the KKK. John, true? False? What do you think? It wasn't a party... Yes! ...it was a bunch of people as far as I recall from my history, lot of politicians that rejected all these... A lot of blacks got into office via the Republican Party and they were They had to be, it was... what would you call it? There's an old term for this. Yeah they did as far as I can tell. The Republicans didn't start it! Okay so the KKK was started by people who were Democrats in the years after the Civil War at the late 1860s but wasn't founded by the Democratic Party and there were Republicans who became members Who is a Republican KKK member

2:28:31 I don't know, none that i know of. Back in those days its membership was predominantly democratic as it was in the early 20th century rebirth well now there's been a complete shift the democrats... Hold on a second before we let's see this start taking this apart as it goes along It wasn't the Democratic Party, was that the supposition? That it was the Democratic party per se. So no it's not the party, it was just Democrats This is like Al Gore didn't invent the internet by parsing a little bit No he never said that specifically Exactly Exactly, that's my point.

2:29:28 I'm like, well most Republicans have denounced but not all there must be some sneaky Republicans in office and then he goes straight to David Duke who is not in office. Why don't they go to Byrd that guy? Oh no! That won't be mentioned And thats the thing here The Blexiters let's call them that are right it was a Democratic Party which supported and promoted slavery and it was indeed a Republican President this man who ended it Which takes us to the next set of claims on their site that democratic politicians condoned some of them? Oh, yeah, so you're telling me that this was a Negation of the claim they proved there were wrong. Yeah blacks and people are idiots yep Yep, what oh yeah? No this is the BBC liars Liars okay more globalists globalist yes president this man who ended it I

2:30:23 Which takes us to the next set of claims on their site that democratic politicians condoned some of the most heinous acts and violence against African Americans during the civil rights movement and that President Harry Truman wrote a letter in which he said Negroes ought to be in Africa. Okay, so do okay So I'm not quite sure exactly what she's saying here Barry Truman was a Democrat did they mention that? I think, well that's a good question. They make it sound as though it was some Republican guy. And it was indeed a Republican president this man. So they're showing Lincoln who ended it which takes us to the next set of claims on their site that Democratic politicians condoned some of the most heinous acts and violence against African-Americans during the civil rights movement and that President Harry Truman wrote a letter in which he said Negroes ought to be in Africa. Okay

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Harry Truman, Jim Crow, Party Switch Narrative

The BBC segment continues by discussing Harry Truman's 1911 letter about Africa and his later desegregation of the military. The reporter claims the "white Democrats" switched to the Republican Party in response to Lyndon Johnson's civil rights push. The hosts reject this "big switch" narrative, promising to bring in more historical analysis from Pat Buchanan in future episodes.

harry truman· jim crow· lyndon johnson· bbc· segregation

2:29:28 I'm like, well most Republicans have denounced but not all there must be some sneaky Republicans in office and then he goes straight to David Duke who is not in office. Why don't they go to Byrd that guy? Oh no! That won't be mentioned And thats the thing here The Blexiters let's call them that are right it was a Democratic Party which supported and promoted slavery and it was indeed a Republican President this man who ended it Which takes us to the next set of claims on their site that democratic politicians condoned some of them? Oh, yeah, so you're telling me that this was a Negation of the claim they proved there were wrong. Yeah blacks and people are idiots yep Yep, what oh yeah? No this is the BBC liars Liars okay more globalists globalist yes president this man who ended it I

2:30:23 Which takes us to the next set of claims on their site that democratic politicians condoned some of the most heinous acts and violence against African Americans during the civil rights movement and that President Harry Truman wrote a letter in which he said Negroes ought to be in Africa. Okay, so do okay So I'm not quite sure exactly what she's saying here Barry Truman was a Democrat did they mention that? I think, well that's a good question. They make it sound as though it was some Republican guy. And it was indeed a Republican president this man. So they're showing Lincoln who ended it which takes us to the next set of claims on their site that Democratic politicians condoned some of the most heinous acts and violence against African-Americans during the civil rights movement and that President Harry Truman wrote a letter in which he said Negroes ought to be in Africa. Okay

2:31:19 So yeah, I think there were a lot of Democratic politicians who condoned Jim Crow laws and did all kinds of nutty stuff. Yeah. So I guess that's not true or we're going to hear from the BBC? Okay, so during the civil rights movement in the 1950s and 1960s Democratic Southern politicians did support and condone racial segregation And as for that letter those words were written by Harry Truman back in 1911 34 years before he would go on to become the US president And while in office, he desegregated the military and pushed his party to oppose racism and discrimination. Okay... so that kind of sums it up I guess? And that's the thing here! The change in views from President Truman reflected the change in views of the Democratic Party. Oh okay, what they're saying is because 35 years before he was president you said Negroes belong on the farm but he changed his mind

2:32:20 He changed his mind, if that's a thing. By the 1960s it was the Democrats who were pushing to end segregation and white-only public spaces President Lyndon Baines Johnson pushed the Democratic Party to support black rights. That won the Democrats supportive African-Americans across the South, but white Democrats weren't happy and they switched parties with Republicans. The Republicans moved to the right and the Democrats became the party of choice for overwhelming number of African Americans in success Of course, there are African Americans who vote Republican. But President Trump thinks he can get more to do so. Democrat policies have led to unsafe communities failing schools over incarceration He's got a job on his hands in 2016 Donald Trump won only 8% of African American votes So it's gonna take a lot more than Blexit to turn that figure around There you go BBC tells you you're wrong about your history

2:33:21 Huh yeah, and a lot of switching talk in there I have to get down get the Buchanan clip and for the next show because it's got some good stuff in there He's got a little history too. All right that'll be our segment We need a segment producer that can give us a jingle What are we gonna call this segment the big switch? The switcheroo swish at the old switcheroo Switcheroo all right Let me see if I have any... What else do we have? Anything interesting going on. No, let's get this... There is a... I wanted to play this before. This is Professor Eric Klein the guy who was the very famous and you can find lots of... And he's good by the way! He's a good lecturer and he's on YouTube all over the place lecturing about archaeology in history back into year 1000. And he has his little

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Junk Science, Archaeology, Climate Change Parallel

Professor Eric Klein's lecture on "junk science" in archaeology is used as a parallel for modern climate change rhetoric. Klein describes how pseudoscience often cloaks itself in legitimate terms and ignores contrary evidence to serve a "high moral purpose." The hosts suggest that the same tactics used by people claiming to find Noah's Ark are being applied to environmental science.

junk science· archaeology· eric klein· pseudoscience· global warming

2:34:15 little spiel he did on some interview on junk science, but it was about the junk science that you find in the humanities like such as archaeology anthropology But if you think about the overview of what he's really saying I'm hearing global warming junks. I don't throughout this whole little little discussion. You talk about junk science, but it's a truism that science is playing an increasing role in archaeology these days would you like to talk to that aspect of junk science as opposed to true science? Well absolutely in archaeology today we make use of science every day We've got all kinds of things from magnetometers to precise surveying and all that Junk science on the other hand really doesn't involve science at

2:35:02 ignore contrary evidence, they speak to a high moral purpose. Basically they're not practicing science at all and yet it looks like it's really pseudoscience and that is where the problem comes in because these people who are saying they found Noah's Ark or they found The Ark of the Covenant They cloak what their doing in legitimate sounding terms And its actually got nothing to do with anything! Yet how does the general public know what to believe? Who to believe So that's why I wrote this book, From Eden to Exile. To put out the data... This is what we know. This is what we don't know. This is why we haven't solved this mystery yet! And this is where we might go and of all the various things that have been suggested here's a ranking. No? He has a book out with all this in it?! Well its about archaeology of course. Yeah he does. A lot of these claims of millions of years isn't based on archaeological findings?

2:35:57 There's some of that, yeah. Yeah no it's just you listen to the real scientists and you listen to these guys who shout down the opposition. You know we get Gallagher they shouldn't even be on the show Judy! 500 000 Hiroshima bombs a day yes a day baby Here's another one I want to play. This is Trump versus the caravan, and I have a note here that I want to mention about democracy now and the caravans. Just play this, and then I have a commentary. President Trump is escalating his attacks against Central American migrant caravans making their way to the U.S.-Mexico border including warning soldiers could shoot migrants for throwing rocks

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Migrant Caravan, Media Framing, CNN vs Democracy Now

The hosts compare the framing of the migrant caravan across different media outlets. While CNN's Don Lemon has characterized the caravan as a "hoax" or non-threat, Democracy Now! focuses on the humanitarian crisis and the 56,000 migrants missing worldwide. The hosts argue that the lack of consistency between "it doesn't exist" and "it's a humanitarian disaster" makes it difficult for the public to find the truth.

migrant caravan· donald trump· cnn· don lemon· democracy now

2:36:43 No, we're not going to put up with that. I just... Okay, I won't interrupt but no! There's the clip. Could shoot migrants for throwing rocks? We're not gonna put up with that they want to throw rocks at our military fights back. We're gonna consider it and I tell them consider it a rifle When they throw rocks like they did at the Mexico military and police, I say consider it a rifle. President Trump has announced he may send as many as 15,000 troops to the border and indefinitely imprison asylum-seeking families in tent cities

2:37:18 This comes as a new Associated Press investigation has revealed over 56,000 migrants have died or gone missing worldwide over the last four years. As migration has surged by nearly 50% since the turn of the century. Now my comment on this is she goes on and they bring Noam Chomsky in and then they go on about these poor people from Honduras that are having to try to get into the United States. They go with a humanitarian angle, you know? We're so cruel because we should be welcoming these poor people and yes there's a lot of people and there may be too many males

2:38:04 They don't deny its existence like CNN does. CNN has Don Lemon come out, there is no migrants coming our way! There's nothing going on and MSNBC is the same way they say it's a hoax so the true progressives see it as something going on and may or may not have anything to do with the elections obviously the right-wing media thinks this is a big threat The super left-wing media sees it as a humanitarian thing and then those CNN and these other guys in the middle they They say think it doesn't exist So what we're not getting really at you know, the consistency between one angle on another is very poor. I

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Texas Minutemen, George Soros, Humanity Ventures

Militia groups like the Texas Minutemen are reportedly heading to the border to act as a "secondary wall." Meanwhile, George Soros and Mastercard have announced "Humanity Ventures," a partnership to provide healthcare and economic tools to refugees. The hosts suggest the venture is a way to get migrants onto the "credit train" and note the backlash Soros faces from those who see a "Jewish conspiracy."

texas minutemen· george soros· mastercard· humanity ventures· reuters

2:38:52 Well, it's all descriptors. I think the main thing that is being used is Trump's term in an invasion and that's really what they've latched on to It's not an invasion! It's not an invasion! They're not here close enough to be an invasion Right And they're heading to Texas anyway so The way I see it Who cares? Well you know what kind of messed up is we have Let me just get this article Whole bunch of militia groups who are heading down to the border here in Texas. The Texas Minutemen, yeah the Minutemen Yeah that bored minute man so they're all well we have a number of them who produce our show too I know but they're bored yeah So they go that they're just looking for something to do yeah, so they're going down there They're just gonna hang back. They're gonna. They're gonna be a secondary wall make some reports then die hope so meanwhile

2:39:49 I think it was Scott Adams who said, you know prove to me that George Soros is really involved in the migrants and everything. You know let's just ignore the fact that he has put up 500 million dollars for investments to address challenges facing migrants and refugees but on Thursday he announced with MasterCard they have a deal And I guess they have a name for it, Humanity Ventures? I think is what their new... It's a venture between Open Society Institute and Mastercard. It intends to focus initially on health care and education with the goal of fostering local economic development and entrepreneurship. I think it's basically to get them on the credit train though just give them some damn credit cards

2:40:39 Well, there's a bunch of pictures that apparently there's lot of these guys marching up north or credit cards. Yeah, just kind of like open-ended credit cards like the gift cards nice So and you know so that is when you see when you report that story and that story is from Reuters And then you report that story then it's like oh Jew hater what yeah? Oh yeah, maybe could that this is the whole Jew What kind of a Jew is George Soros I I'm just telling you what the word how it works. You listen everywhere is like oh, this is the Jewish Conspiracy so sick of it so sick of it all right What do you got yeah? Oh my god one? I got one left I'll just got one story The only thing that left us that it is indeed down to two cities Amazon headquartered to

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Amazon HQ2, San Francisco Prop C, Marc Benioff

The race for Amazon's HQ2 is narrowed down to Northern Virginia and potentially Austin. In San Francisco, Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff is campaigning for Proposition C, a tax on large corporations to fund homeless services. The hosts discuss the "battleground" between tech executives like Benioff and Jack Dorsey over the best solutions for urban poverty and the potential for new taxes to drive jobs away.

amazon hq2· marc benioff· salesforce· proposition c· san francisco

2:41:36 It appears that Austin is in the final running with Virginia Northern, Virginia. I think Virginia's there's a reason for Virginia Spooksville yeah now I still I still think that we have a shot here. We'll see They're nuts if they do. They're asking for trouble here's the problem with Austin I think that Fort Worth idea is better they can say it as Austin and move to action to North Virginia has got you know the obvious spook thing and there's too much liberal, too many liberals i mean its not as though I mean, Bezos is not like a conservative by any means but he knows what happens in these liberal communities. Like in Seattle we get a bunch of nut balls running the city and they want to do a head tax on all these 75 thousand or higher... Wait isn't that happening in San Francisco now too? Did I see Benioff talking about that about prop

2:42:31 See, I think well he's that's not that's a little different but before we play my last clip play the local story There's the prop C Benioff CEO Mark Benioff was in Chinatown today campaigning for one controversial plan to curb the city's homeless crisis with tech money Money money money tech money money Connor joins us now with both sides of the prop see showdown Andrea Yeah, Juliette this would be the largest tax increase in San Francisco history and it would force the biggest companies in the city to pay up. Both sides agree let's fix this problem but the issue is whether or not more money is a solution A crowd of roughly couple hundred people gathered for Yes on C rally in the heart of Chinatown The guest of honor Salesforce CEO Mark Benioff Let's give it up for our hero Ying Hong!

2:43:23 Benioff is one of the lead backers of Proposition C, pouring in $2 million to support the measure. We know that we have to get these people off our streets. We know current funding is not enough. We need more funding and can do more. It would tax corporations with a revenue of more than 50 million dollars a half percent in gross receipts if it passes. Prop C would raise roughly three hundred million dollars annually. That money would go to create housing for at least 5,000 people provide 1,000 new emergency shelter beds and fund mental health programs opponents though caution San Francisco has tripled its spending on the homeless issue in the last decade but the problem has gotten worse without additional accountability without additional reforms that we might be throwing good money out with a bat

2:44:10 Prominent politicians such as San Francisco's newly elected mayor London Breed and state senator Scott Weiner oppose Prop C. But tech executives have taken center stage on this issue, that is because social media has become their battleground. Benioff and Twitter co-founder Jack Dorsey have expressed lively tweets on what would be the best solution. Well I'm very grateful for Jack Dorsey for starting this because he really gave us a national conversation on Proposition C Opponents also warned the impact Prop C may have on jobs and housing and transportation costs Many would like to see how Mayor London Breed is going to tackle this problem, and then give her program some time to work before implementing new taxes

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Heather Nauert, UN Ambassador, Outro

Donald Trump is reportedly nominating State Department spokesperson Heather Nauert to replace Nikki Haley as U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations. The hosts describe Nauert as a "favorite of Trump" with a background at Fox News, though they find her briefings "boring." The show concludes with a promise of post-election analysis on Thursday and a final sign-off from Austin and Silicon Valley.

heather nauert· nikki haley· united nations· fox news· arizona state

2:44:53 Oh yes, the tech money will save the world. So this is so they want $50 million and what are they gonna just round everybody? They want 300 million. And they're going to round everybody up and throw them into a bus and ship him off somewhere or how's this gonna work? That's where it'll go! Ship him to Austin. Hey man we got a dome in flamethrowers back off. We don't have the dome yet. Back off So the last clip I have is the new UN ambassador. They're going to try to push our friend Heather, who by the way...I was looking at her bio and she used to be on Fox. Yeah she used to be on Fox but a lot of stuff on Fox it wasn't like she was really steady there but she went to Arizona State and i look at her picture yep! She had..there's a certain look with all women who've ever been to Arizona State they always looked like her Really? Is that good? Is that a good thing

2:45:46 Well, if you like that look it's pretty. I'm very underwhelmed with her we used to have lots of stuff from the briefings Oh yeah this has gone downhill She is boring she got a big giant thick book and it's too thick She's kind of flirtatious, but not in the right way. It is Arizona State now that I'll tell you more, but I'll just leave it at that. All right? President Trump is reportedly planning on nominating State Department spokesperson Heather Nowart to be the new U.S. ambassador to the United Nations after Nikki Haley's exit at the end of the year

2:46:25 Now, it is a former Fox News host including for the program Fox and Friends. A favorite of Trump's she joined the State Department as its spokesperson last year She'll be perfect for the role just shut up and look pretty in there than them read your lines Favorite of Trump's I always got to put a dig in there Oh she is a favorite of Trump's And she's boring which is perfect for this job It's perfect for the job. Yeah, I think she'd be okay it probably won't let her get it they gotta stop Trump at some point about something what happens after the elections yes and we will be reporting diligently on what happens after the elections We'll have a full day Wednesday to figure out what's happened and see if we can deconstruct them of course we'll bring all that to you on Thursday

CHAPTER 57 / 57 Discussion

Outro, Space Force Mix, Mars Mission

The episode ends with a musical mix featuring Donald Trump's speeches about the "Space Force" and the mission to Mars. The hosts sign off with their traditional "Adios, movos!" and encourage listeners to support the show through the value-for-value model. The final audio segments emphasize the "best podcast in the universe" branding.

space force· mars· donald trump· end of show mix· adios movos

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