Episode 1082 · Thursday, 1 November 2018

Otherize

High-stakes Texas election dynamics and the death of an infamous FBI informant collide with a media landscape increasingly defined by identity politics and algorithmic outrage.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 1082

About this episode

Beto O'Rourke and the Democratic National Committee face scrutiny over a $69 million campaign windfall as the Texas Senate race against Ted Cruz becomes a national proxy war. While Alphabet Inc and the University of Texas appear as top donors, media narratives largely ignore the candidate's connection to the $20 billion real estate fortune of his father-in-law, William D. Sanders. This financial surge coincides with a broader media strategy to validate high-spending consultancy models over grassroots outcomes.

Fox News experiences internal friction as Shepard Smith rejects the migrant caravan invasion narrative, while Fox Business pulls a Lou Dobbs segment featuring Chris Farrell for using the phrase Soros occupied State Department. CNN anchor Don Lemon sparked backlash by labeling white men the primary domestic terror threat following the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting. Meanwhile, the brutal prison execution of Whitey Bulger by Fotios Geas at USP Hazelton raises questions about Robert Mueller's historical handling of FBI informants. In Massachusetts, Geoff Diehl accused Senator Elizabeth Warren of unethical fundraising during the Brett Kavanaugh hearings, while Hillary Clinton signaled a 2020 run during a 13-city tour with Kara Swisher.

Jon Stewart warned Christiane Amanpour that journalists are falling into a narcissism trap by taking Donald Trump's fake news insults personally. The episode features a formal knighting ceremony for Sir Cabral and Sir Finch, alongside a debate over the authenticity of Dijon mustard at Trader Joe's. The program concludes with a breakdown of the environmental cost of pet ownership and a high-energy cybernetic music mix.


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CHAPTER 01 / 41 Discussion

Beto O'Rourke, Amy Sanders, Campaign Finance

Beto O'Rourke is married to Amy Sanders, the only child of real estate mogul William D. Sanders, whose portfolio is valued at approximately $20 billion. Despite this personal wealth, O'Rourke has raised $69 million for his Texas Senate campaign. The media has largely avoided discussing the candidate's connection to the Sanders fortune during the 2018 election cycle.

beto o'rourke· amy sanders· william d sanders· el paso· campaign finance

00:00 Oh, you made the alien sound that Joe Rogan makes. Adam Curry John C Devorah It's Thursday November 1st 2018 This is your award-winning Give My Nation Media assassination episode 1082! This is no agenda Riding the caravan of love and broadcasting live from the Capitol, The Drone Star State here in downtown Austin. Tejas in the Cluedio in the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where everyone's talking about BATO I'm John C. DeVore Okay, that's one way to do it Yes we were talking Maybe yeah We should just reiterate that John and I pretty much rarely speak during the week. Well we don't speak at all I'd say maybe an email or two

00:48 And you're a little more active on Twitter, so I see what you're thinking more than usual. But we don't speak! We don't talk about what we are going to do... ...we each do our own show preparation. Right in time perfect. Perfect, I'm so happy it's gonna be good show So I have no idea what John's clips are. I mean, I look at them when they come in and it's like okay... ...I can see the titles and see if there is anything that I have as well and how we might fold it in. That's it! And then just before the show, oh yes Beto. Robert Francis. Oh, Robert Francis Beto. And I said did you know?

01:28 that Beto is married to an heiress of a 20 billion, reported $20 billion fortune. And she's the only child. Yeah and I said what? They don't play that up much do they? They don't play it up at all! I just heard from you this morning that's why we wanted to talk about it He is the daughter of William D Sanders aka The Warren Buffet of real estate according to Bloomberg And she is his only daughter. His portfolio was valued at about 20 billion dollars. Wow! Yeah

CHAPTER 02 / 41 Discussion

Alphabet Inc, University of Texas, Beto O'Rourke Donors

Alphabet Inc, the parent company of Google, is a top contributor to Beto O'Rourke's campaign according to Open Secrets data. Other major donors include the University of Texas and the University of California, raising questions about why public educational institutions are making significant political contributions. The pro-Israel lobby group J Street and various law firms also appear as primary financial backers.

alphabet inc· google· university of texas· university of california· j street

02:09 So this guy's running, so he's collecting all this money. He's collected more money for a guy in a pretty losing state. $69 million dollars. I looked at Open Secrets? What is it? Is it Open Secret who does all the... It's one of them yeah And looks like the majority coming from Alphabet actually Google Yeah that's Google The Google boys are trying to buy Texas Good luck Google boys Let me see, Beto O'Rourke. I wasn't all that prepared here campaign finance summary. Here we go. Here it is. Top contributor University of Texas? Of course alphabet Wait a minute! Why is the University of Texas

02:56 Did they give any money to Cruz? I mean, why are they giving money to anybody this is a... They're always jacking up the tuitions on the students yet. They're giving money to political candidates Oh yeah! Are they do a lot of that all universities do that what are you talking about these are political operations Hello Yes, $365,000. Alphabet Inc.'s second spot then J Street which is lobbyist. Lobbyists? Yeah. Then University of California 131,404 dollars. The University of California gave

03:34 Beto, over $100,000. That's what you're telling me? Yes that's what I'm telling you Well the next time they go... but i think they've been taken off the list but they always call the alumni up asking for money and I said I would give you money but you just going to give it to Obama thats last time I talked to him which was talking about Obama because they gave Obama a million dollars and I'm thinking why are you asking for my ten dollars You know, or my 50 or whatever it is. And I won't even give it to the library because I figure they're just funneling that over their political contribution if the University of California has got enough money that they can blow it on a Beto thing. I'm not going to donate anything there. They're screwing their alumni with this guy. Not a sunshine. Don't blame it on moonlight blaming on the Beto AT&T right after University of California

04:26 with also a little over $100,000. Now by industry according to Open Secrets Democrat liberal total of 88 8.8 million dollars retired just at category retired three million dollars was it ARP lawyers and law firms three million dollars education that's 2.6 so there's more than just UT and University of California health professionals 1.3 So it seems like a lot of special interests are interested in him, especially J Street come on Jay Street Now I guess they figured they can get Ted Cruz up but you move something wrong What are you moving?

CHAPTER 03 / 41 Discussion

Democratic National Committee, Media Strategy, Texas Senate Race

The Democratic National Committee has reportedly pressured Beto O'Rourke to share his $69 million windfall with other candidates. Media outlets are heavily promoting O'Rourke through appearances on Pod Save America and town halls with Chris Matthews to validate the traditional political rule that higher spending ensures victory. Analysts suggest this strategy benefits political consultants more than the actual candidates in the Texas race against Ted Cruz.

dnc· ted cruz· pod save america· chris matthews· political consultants

05:13 I'm moving my little thing that just fell off the shelf. You keep your little thing on the shelf? My computer. Here Cruz now you were saying that there was a big push on the media to get this to get this guy some attention There's a number of things I want to mention. I want talk about that because I haven't thought on that and I also want to talk about The fact is the Democratic National Committee has been telling Beto to give them some of the money Do it he's got he's got 69 million, so hey man Hey, there's other candidates that need to use it And he's not spending it all apparently. He has 10 million left like when I looked yesterday Oh, well he spent quite a bit then yeah Yeah, he spent that's quite a bit Quite a bit But he's getting a lot of exposure! He was on uh... He's popping up everywhere On Pod Save America

06:04 And Chris Matthews yesterday did a town hall at Houston, University of Houston. Yeah all this but here's what I think is going on with it that you're gonna see even more of them before next week is the media is promoting the heck out of this guy because they've got to get the old rules back on track meaning the more you spend the more likely are to win Yes And this guy has got his spending, he spent 59 million according to you. He was holding back 10 and he's going to outspend Cruz there is no doubt about that so he should win. He outraised Cruz for sure by a good 20 million I think

06:51 Yeah, so he should they got to get him to win because that if they can it breaks breaks it yeah One guy like this to win and they could do their uneasy Street because now everyone knows I gotta spend more money Yes everybody wins especially the consultants the consultants when biggest wins. Yeah, I don't think he's gonna win I don't think so either It's looking like, I don't know. Probably the caribou... John let's be honest you're talking about Texas You're talking about we are our own country here and we got no problem with Beto and the signs and everything I got no problem with the guy seems like a nice guy

CHAPTER 04 / 41 Discussion

Shepard Smith, Fox News, Migrant Caravan Coverage

Fox News anchor Shepard Smith broke from the network's editorial line by stating there is no "invasion" regarding the migrant caravan. Smith noted that the migrants are at least two months away from the border, suggesting the current media frenzy is timed specifically for the midterm elections. This internal dissent highlights a rift within Fox News regarding the framing of immigration issues.

shepard smith· fox news· migrant caravan· midterm elections· immigration

07:33 But, you know we've been sold this threat of the caravan. It's coming right towards us! This clearly is not a coincidence. The caravan is the Caravan Of Love. And it's headed to Texas? Yeah, it's heading toward Texas exactly and there are horrible people on it. Oh, that's horrible well they've taken I guess Fox has kind of taken They've turned on themselves. Shepard Smith turned on his own company... Oh, Shep Smith has been... He's the token liberal guy. So he's doing everything he can to get fired but they won't fire him but let's play the Shepard Smith no invasion clip Tomorrow The migrants according to Fox News reporting are more than two months away if any of them actually come here But tomorrow is one week before the midterm election

08:32 which is what all of this is about. There's no invasion, no one coming to get you there's nothing at all worry about when they did this to us got us all riled up in April remember the result was 14 arrests We're America, we can handle it. They need to do this kind of stuff and Shep is the perfect guy for it but they love him there come on we know who runs all these media outlets yeah Democrats. It's the Democrats who run them so that's fine that's fine. So because of this and other things they took a big chunk out of Lou Dobbs' show

CHAPTER 05 / 41 Discussion

Lou Dobbs, Chris Farrell, Soros Occupied State Department

Fox Business pulled a segment of Lou Dobbs Tonight featuring Chris Farrell of Judicial Watch after Farrell used the phrase "Soros occupied State Department." Farrell claimed that leftist groups and NGOs funded by George Soros's Open Society Institute are organizing the migrant caravan with help from the U.S. State Department. The terminology used by Farrell sparked immediate backlash and accusations of anti-Semitism.

lou dobbs· chris farrell· judicial watch· george soros· fox business

09:12 shelved it and kept it there, and they took off all the recordings even though there was one on YouTube which I listened to because it had to do with this. This caravan. So if you read the right-wing press, oh my god! They're trying to suppress this information... Hold on I have the clips. You have the Lou Dobbs clip? Yes yes I've got the Lou Dobbs clip. Okay well before we get into it, I don't want to demean your clips because i had the clips too and I think that they took them off because they're incredibly boring Well, it's just to show... I mean this is one thing. What happened is here's the sequence of events. Caravan invasion scary then we get Gab guy kills Jews in synagogue because Soros becomes so widespread that the Dutch national broadcaster

10:08 in the Netherlands wrote an article about Soros and some, I think they were just translating. I've told they do this all the time They're not real journalists most of them just wake up in the morning look at the US papers Okay I'll just translate this And one line said The Jew Soro's da-da-da-da-da And that one line caused a national uproar And what they were and what there's Jews sorrows the Jew Soros, and so I think that was a national uproar in Holland Yes, I think that it was translated. It was supposed to be the Jewish Soros, and they were trying to Show that this is being blamed for this because he's Jewish That's their story But that's not the way it was written the Jew Soros

10:53 So you get, you know, Robbie Naftaniel from the Dutch Anti-Defamation League. Oh no it got incredibly crazy and You know and so now you have loot well. I'll just play this do you have the just a little bit of the clip? You don't any of it of the Lou Dobbs stuff no, I I thought it was so no offense to your clip But I thought it was the reason they took it off because it was just It was boring is that this guy with the judicial watch white right yes, but it's not Tom Fitton. It's And apparently he's not interesting apparently he's been banned

11:33 from Fox. He's known supposedly for being dull. My next guest just returned to Fox Business News, it's a model where he spent four days on the ground witnessing the caravan just north of the Honduran border joining us tonight Chris Farrell director of investigations for Judicial Watch. Wow Director of Investigations. I know that This caravan was a subject of considerable interest for you, for Judicial Watch and certainly for the American people. Give us your first, and I'm going to because we have limited time ask you to be as succinct as possible. Your thoughts on what you witnessed and what you saw and heard? It's an overwhelmingly male caravan of mid-teens to mid forties

12:19 I'd say the women and children are super minority. There are certainly criminal elements rolled into the caravan, there were children that were recovered from a human smuggling operation today. The Guatemalans are trying to hold them back and turn them back but it's a very grave situation. Leftist groups reported to be the organizers playing instrumental roles and financial roles... Absolutely! Leading the way... Tell us what you can't? Sure. Look, this is a criminal involvement on the part of these leftist groups it's highly organized very elaborate sophisticated operation I have that from the highest levels of the Guatemalan government they're investigating those groups criminally and i strongly urge President Trump and Attorney General Sessions to do the same here comes! A lot of these folks also have affiliates who are getting money from the Soros occupied State Department

13:10 And that was a very great concern. That's it, that was it! It was the Soros... Now let me just explain one thing about this I think what he is trying to say comes out in a very unfortunate way Is that The Open Society Institute George Soros' ...the mothership of all his philanthropic deeds Gives so much money to all these little NGOs just hundreds hundreds of NGOs But a lot of the money does come from USA ID and that is directly from the State Department I think that's what the guy is trying to say, but it comes out in a way that Brian seltzer water over there to CNN well

CHAPTER 06 / 41 Discussion

Bill Kristol, Brian Stelter, Fox News Management Criticism

Bill Kristol and Brian Stelter criticized Fox News management for allowing guests to use inflammatory rhetoric regarding George Soros. Kristol argued that the "Soros occupied" narrative is a trope that should have been corrected in real-time by the host. The controversy has led to calls for Fox investors and talent to distance themselves from the network's primetime programming.

bill kristol· brian stelter· cnn· josh marshall· fox news

13:53 uh... he understood the uh... the dog whistle last night after i think it was this is with that what's his face to crystal bill kristol i think killing right someone on fox business had a guest talking about was at the soros occupied state department let's pull that out because of tweet about this by josh marshall and viral we can show you live on a play the clip from the dot gets so gross yeah don't give any more oxygen but all of us have been sweet growth so they want to get anymore oxygen How is it so... what is gross about it? Well, Crystal just said the gross part. That was it! There's nothing else in the boring clip but this continues. Sorry the point of this segment as Josh Marshall is saying here Is that Lou Dobbs had a guest on from Judicial Watch Saying the caravan from Central America was being funded or directed by the Soros Occupied State Department So Soros occupied is a play on Zionist occupied government which is very familiar to the Semitic tropes

14:49 This is great! unfortunately into not just right wing websites but even out to Fox News as we just saw, to get that kind of narrative. But Fox is going to say you're blaming them? Are you blaming them? I'm blaming them for putting that guest on the air and not correcting him in real time and so far as i know 12 hours later doing nothing about it and I blame me honestly this

15:26 level after we have Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham, I've known all these people in the past on TV every night. I'm blaming the management of Fox and the investors in Fox and some of the other talent who are decent people at Fox for saying nothing this has been going on a long time if you watch Fox in prime time and I don't but you read about it you see clips it's really appalling and everyone just sits back and says well that's just Fox they're making money You can't do what he just did. I can't say, these guys are crazy they're doing all this stuff and I won't watch it! I've never heard a word of it but I have heard the clip and somebody else told me this second hand I read about it. It's horrible you can't be making these sorts of statements if your on these shows well Bill Krispel can by the way is a liar because you know we watches his stuff Of course now let me remind you where this comes from

CHAPTER 07 / 41 Discussion

Barbara Lerner Spector, Paideia Sweden, Multiculturalism

A 2010 video featuring Barbara Lerner Spector, director of Paideia in Sweden, discusses the role of Jewish people in leading Europe toward a multicultural future. Spector stated that Europe must transform from monolithic societies into multicultural ones and that Jews will be at the center of this transition. This specific clip is frequently cited by critics and conspiracy theorists to support claims about intentional demographic shifts in Europe.

barbara lerner spector· paideia· sweden· multiculturalism· europe

16:19 And I got a couple emails about it. People reminded me of a clip and, I think we brought it up in a very similar fashion about...and this is..I think a lot of the conspiracy theories from the crazy Jew haters stems from clips like the following This was a flashback for The No Agenda Show We played this very short 36 seconds a couple years ago This is Barbara Lerner Spector She's the founding director of the Paella Sweden And you may recall that the Paeida, it's P-A-E-I-D-A. Paeida. I don't know how to pronounce it

16:57 They have a mission and their mission is the multicultural integration in this case of Europe so listen to what she says I think there's a resurgence of anti-semitism because at this point In time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural And I think we're going to be part of the throes of that of that transformation which must take place Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies that they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the center of that it's a huge transformation for Europe to make, they are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role but without that leading role and without that transformation Europe will not survive

17:44 This is taken quite literally, and I don't know what their mission is. What I'm hearing her say—this isn't the real foundation, real outfit as she's saying—the Jews are responsible and it's their mission or at least these Jews' it's their mission to create, to shepherd in the multicultural society in Europe that's what I'm hearing her say. And... That's back what she said! That's creating resentment I would think it might. Yes, and so when you get the... What is it, the HEIC? Is it the Hebrew International or the Hebrew Immigration Aid Council whatever The Squirrel Hill Synagogue shooter was posting about. Yeah he's over that operation Well yes and you know he's been over socialized on social networks and so his brain fries I'm not making excuses just telling you where its coming from And he heard about this when you hear a clip about that now that pertains to Europe

CHAPTER 08 / 41 Discussion

Anders Breivik, Norway Attacks, Media Reaction

The 2011 attacks in Norway by Anders Breivik are referenced in the context of how media figures like Bill Kristol and Brian Stelter react to nationalist rhetoric. The discussion explores how media coverage of such events can inadvertently inflame tensions by framing political disagreements through the lens of identity and religion.

norway· anders breivik· utøya· oslo· media bias

18:44 We've seen some pretty nasty things in Scandinavia, particular... was it Denmark? Where the guy killed like 80 kids. Yeah I did yeah didn't cover that well we covered it very well at the time I'm sure remember on the island we covered the heck out of it. Oh you're talking about Britain, that's Norway! Oh Norway i'm sorry why was I saying Denmark? Norway yes so that's why I didn't remember the Denmark thing yeah and and you know so and that would comes from the same place but here you have what happened here is you get Bill Kristol um and Brian Seltzer I think both Jewish

19:26 And, you know what they're doing is just putting more flames on the fire by going from the Jews are trying to shepherd in the multicultural society despite what Whitey thinks. I'm not telling you from my perspective but from what I think these people think of oh and here's two Jews who run the media kicking the guy off! It's very inflammatory because that's another staple anti-Jew staple Well that's interesting I'm glad you got the Lou Dobbs clip to show people what it was really about which was a minor comment that was ill-advised and boring. Quite! If you listen to the whole thing, oh my god this is why they cut it out... I did, I mean its almost like obfuscating the evidence of fake outrage to me That's what feels more like than anything else

CHAPTER 09 / 41 Discussion

Texas Election Dynamics, Political Violence, Global Instability

The high-stakes nature of the Texas Senate race has turned the state into a primary battleground for national power structures. Observers suggest that the intense focus on the migrant caravan and the synagogue shooting in Pittsburgh are being leveraged by both political parties to influence voters. There is a growing concern that the desperation to win elections is leading to increased radicalization and the potential for organized violence.

texas· beto o'rourke· ted cruz· political violence· elections

20:26 Yes, the fake outrage and then well this reminds me actually of the 911 call at the school. At Sandy Hook which we play on our show. Are you trying to get us de-platformed here? We're on a roll today! It was like the Lou Dobbs thing. It was boring, it was nothing going on! That's why they didn't want to play it... They just made up the fact that it was exciting and they're making this up too that this is all some horrible thing happened on The Lou Dobbs Show and now there's smeared Lou Dobbs in the process But it has sparked a national renew- with I mean again the events are very interesting to watch and just the sequence is so coincidental where you have

21:13 Texas, lots of money being spent on Beto. You know we got Lion Ted, Sleepy Ted whatever it is We gotta hook him up. We can't have Texas flip and I've always said it could flip It wouldn't be that hard if you had the right candidate I think right candidate may be it, but... Right candidate would help. They will vote for a Democrat if it's an old-fashioned conservative Democrat, not Beto! That guy is like a screw loose liberal No offense to all the screw loose liberals that listen to this show. But it's obvious that we're a battleground state for whatever reason, which seems ill-advised but okay so they pour a lot of money in... Well no I don't think its ill advised, I think they figured look were not getting anywhere with our ... We're not getting the money that should be getting from media people and media moguls and were not getting the money but what if we could flip Texas because we just got a lotta money?

22:14 Texas would be because you're not gonna do you flipping something that's always on the borderline is not a so what? Right, but flip in Texas would be like a big deal major boost to the media People that need more money. Well I tell you Austin for one is just Beto land. I mean they're the signs problem at the signs are Everywhere, I think he lives in Austin doesn't he No, no. He lives in El Paso. Oh, El Paso right? Anyway so you have the Beto surgeons all the money just to make sure whether it was instigated on purpose or whatever it is caravan scary invasion caravan scary invasion then by coincidence some guy goes off on the Jews

23:07 I'm just saying it the way he would say, the Jews helping them to invade us based on this backstory supported by statements such as this lady who's in Sweden. And, you know so he has this theory and there may be some truth to it I don't know. He goes off kills people and then the caravan story turns into well you know its George Soros OH JEW! And then we shut it all down, shut down the whole conversation. It seems like both... if I wasn't so skeptical you'd think both sides are... This is a...I always have to remind myself The elections really matter in the power structure. I have no doubt people are willing to kill, maim organize No seriously! You can get someone killed in Holland for 5 thousand euros these days. It's gone down quite a bit

24:08 The people haven't, there's no one. These people don't give a crap they'll kill anything if it can get them Texas or whatever it is both sides Republican all crazy There's crazy powers at work Yeah well wouldn't surprise me This will slow down after the midterms Well yes of course Hopefully not too much because this show will suffer I had, can we stay on this for a sec? Can we stay on the... Yeah. We're going to stay on it. I just was gonna say that I've got some more stuff that I don't know if it veers off too much but for example the Don Lemon tasting... No no no! Now its veering of too much

CHAPTER 10 / 41 Discussion

Don Lemon, White Men, Domestic Terror Threats

CNN anchor Don Lemon stated that the biggest terror threat in the United States is white men, most of whom are radicalized to the right. Lemon made these comments while discussing the Kroger grocery store shooting in Kentucky and the Pittsburgh synagogue attack. He questioned why there is no "travel ban" on white men similar to the restrictions placed on certain Muslim-majority countries, sparking a debate on "demonizing" specific demographics.

don lemon· cnn· chris cuomo· radicalization· travel ban

24:53 No, no. No you know what actually it's a good idea have the full Don Lemon I do I got that I got the middle because here's what's going on well How long is your clip two minutes? Okay? You want it in context And then I've noticed over the past four weeks there's been an increased I'm seeing increasingly videos going viral that show Democrats being a-holes, racist etc. but they are clipped out of context and someone's doing it much more professionally than i've ever seen before in fact I even got duped by one right? And so I do have some examples of that coming up later but this one of Don Lemon actually is entirely in context

25:42 And here it is with the chrome the Cuomo kid not just Pittsburgh. It's not just the bomber There was another hate-filled criminal Just last week in Kentucky another white man history of violence custody for shooting and killing two African Americans at a grocery store Kroger's But what he tried to do was barge into a predominantly black church He failed, and then he picked a secondary target He's being investigated for hate crimes. Don Lemon is here right now, we barely had time to cover it because we were distracted by another extremist that was doing bad things in the name of hate.

26:18 And then now another one. And you have all of them in a row and we talked, we messaged about this little bit this weekend I keep trying to point out people not to demonize any one group or anyone ethnicity but we keep thinking that the biggest terror threat is something else some people who are marching towards the border like it's imminent and when last time they did this couple hundred people came Most of them did get into the country most of them tired. You know got tuckered out before they even made it to the border So we have to stop demonizing people and realize this is the best part keeps that We gotta stop demonizing people man you gotta start This is heck this is Don Lemon serious don't stop deep in a second tuckered out before they even I think order

27:05 So we have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized right up to the right. Demonize them! And we have to start doing something about them there's no travel ban on them. Do me! Travel ban? There is no ban on you know they had the Muslim Ban, there is no white guy ban. Oh come one I want one. What do we do about that? Buy em! Wait a minute, stop. He asked the rhetorical question there's no white guy banned? What do we do about that as if that's a question anybody is asking now so at this point because I've seen the viral clip okay you know there's probably something some context that is not there for whatever reason and on them There was no ban on you know they had the Muslim band there is no white guy band So what do we do about that?

27:58 And first of all, let me just say this by the way stop stopping it the The must was never a Muslim ban. It was a band specific to certain countries and white guys lived in those countries and White guys were also banned Don Lemon is I don't know if he's dating or married to a white guy his boyfriend her husband is a white guy and But he's a good kind of white guy. See, we have to start getting down... He doesn't look gay. 20 seconds- there you go. Maurice Stallard is the name and Vicki Jones and they have been lost in all of this two people who were killed on Wednesday that you talked about They had been lost about this and I know that

28:39 feel that this story has not gotten enough coverage and we will honor them tonight in our program but go on Chris sorry good no no I'm gonna do it in the closing you're making the right point to cover in the right story and I appreciate you for that. I appreciate you man so its true what he said really came out of his pie hole thats, after seconds after saying we got to stop demonizing people but I guess white guys aren't people Or something, something. This anti-white thing that's going on coincidentally the murder of Whitey Bulger Now this has multiple layers actually John this has multiple layers It piles onto that I do have a whitey bulger clip we'll play it later because its really not about this anti white thing But it is good! I read this morning they cut his tongue out

CHAPTER 11 / 41 Discussion

Whitey Bulger, Robert Mueller, FBI Corruption

The death of Boston mobster Whitey Bulger in a federal prison has renewed interest in his history as an FBI informant. Representative Louie Gohmert has previously highlighted Robert Mueller's alleged role in the FBI's mishandling of the Bulger case during Mueller's tenure in the DOJ. Some speculate that Bulger was killed to prevent him from revealing further details about FBI corruption that could discredit the Special Counsel's office.

whitey bulger· robert mueller· fbi· louie gohmert· boston

29:35 No, no. Well the latest that I heard... That's what I got this morning Oh yeah my understanding is they attempted to cut his tongue out Okay maybe But they did gouge his eyes out Just briefly on this? Just briefly on Whitey Bulger And by coincidence HLN, Headline News a CNN sub-affiliate you know their little sister station did it had a two hour special running all day yesterday about Whitey Bulger and you know was he was he a snitch for the FBI? Was he not? He claimed he wasn't. There's an incredible history behind Whitey Bulger. It's the FBI that tipped him off to let him escape

30:23 The whole Whitey Bulger story is a huge embarrassment for the FBI. If they're trying to make amends through its HLN, they're not going to get anywhere. So Republican Louie Gohmert wrote a couple years ago about a long blog post and I've put it into show notes about Robert Mueller who at the time was very involved. See, there was also a rogue outfit of the FBI in Boston and they were completely integrated with the gangs with the Whitey Bulger Gangs and they became criminal themselves And from what I understand if you read Louie Gohmert's public blog post he says that Robert Mueller has a lot of problems

31:11 regarding Whitey Bulger and I think because Mueller's about to come out with his report either before or after the midterm doesn't really matter. Master! That's what that's what we're being told I believe that two things, again coincidence we got Whitey Bulger very famous a complete corrupt FBI at the time Robert Mueller not the director but high-level in the FBI and then all of sudden we have allegations whether they're bullcrap or not you know that he had sexual assault. Mueller is under attack now Yeah, I have a- And they had to- and someone had to kill- well, I think they had to kill Bulger. To shut him up because you know there's stories that he was about to blow the lid on the FBI which could've totally did even just the assumption

CHAPTER 12 / 41 Discussion

Robert Mueller, Jacob Wohl, Hoax Allegations

Allegations of sexual assault against Robert Mueller are being investigated as a potential "hoax within a hoax." Reports suggest that individuals, including Jacob Wohl, may have orchestrated a scheme to offer women money to make false claims against Mueller to embarrass the media. NPR's Phil Ewing reported that the woman who initially claimed to be offered money may not actually exist, complicating the narrative further.

robert mueller· jacob wohl· npr· phil ewing· sexual assault

31:57 Could have completely discredited Mueller. Well, they kept... well first of all I can tell you that the whole Mueller targeting is a hoax! Well the women thing sounds like a hoax yeah? The letter that was sent to the journalist which was posted That letter was a hoax! talking about. There was a letter that was sent to a number of journalistic outlets, I have a copy somewhere... Recently? Or long time ago? That was the one that set off this whole thing it was a whole did the letter was sent to WorldNetDaily just about all the major newspapers... About the women who are being paid...

32:38 The letter itself was a hoax, yeah. Sure the letter itself was a hoax and it's structure like a hoax Yes And it was designed to embarrass the media because nobody did any research and never found out who wrote the letter they didn't do anything because of this entire letter was a hoax done by couple guys back east You want you wanna hear the NPR report? Of this letter It's some pretty funny wording. NPR National Security Editor Phil Ewing joins us now, Phil this is weird but what do we know so far about this story? It's a very weird story if it's a hoax it appears to be a hoax within a hoax They're really stretching now. It's a hoax within a hoax! Allegations that came into inboxes in Washington of reporters, including NPR from someone who called herself woman in Florida who had allegedly been offered money to make these false charges against Mueller and what may be the case is that woman actually

33:35 Does not exist and that those false charges were in fact false charges about false charges What isn't clear is whether this was intended to embarrass the special counsel's office or just to embarrass the journalists? Who had been sent this email as they try to investigate and report on it now pretty much backs your story up The hoax within a hoax within a hoax Here's an interesting little factoid and you actually may not have even realized you were part of this. After Sunday show, I always go through the Twitter timeline see what people are saying make sure one can receive it Of course if i mess something up I have to correct something Someone retweets the show I'll give them a little like hey thanks for re-tweeting

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Jacob Wohl, Twitter Interactions, No Agenda Producers

Jacob Wohl, a central figure in the Mueller hoax allegations, was recently seen interacting with No Agenda producers on Twitter. Wohl liked and retweeted the show, leading to a confrontation with other users on the platform. This interaction highlights the diverse and sometimes controversial audience that follows independent media deconstruction.

jacob wohl· twitter· social media· producers· no agenda

34:23 And there was this, you know one producer I get presume who liked it and then all of a sudden some guy jumps in and starts yelling at him like yeah You're full of crap and all this and you and I are both tagging this tweet stream. This turned the guy who liked and retweeted the show was Jacob Wall. This is one of the main guys who was supposed to have created this hoax, and here he is liking our show And then some other guy comes in like you're full of crap and your Jacob wall You're full of this and somehow We're both in this timeline and more people jump on. And then someone says something about, you know hoax and then you think that they're saying something about you like show me where I said hoax! And then the guy comes back hey old clown shut up it's like learn how Twitter works like wow how can...I don't want to be yeah but that old that clown had said that had like four followers there are way too many people following the two of us

35:24 that are got two followers, three followers for followers. I go and they come in with these snipey remarks rarely respond to what I found interesting is one of the main players of this hoax apparently listens to our show. Yeah. Yay. Not just that he is actually the hoaxter now. And I don't know either But yes, it's good. Well it's good he should listen to the show probably get some good ideas Anyway back to this whole thing You want let's get these out of the way since we're I think is part of a bigger discussion Which we seem to be having about whitey Let's get the whitey bulger dead clip out of the way so we can hear at least Understand how great? It was that he was killed for many years

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Whitey Bulger Execution, Fotios Geas, Prison Security

James "Whitey" Bulger was beaten to death at USP Hazelton by inmates, including suspected mafia hitman Fotios "Freddy" Geas. Geas reportedly targeted Bulger because of his hatred for informants and those who abuse women. The brutal nature of the killing, which included an attempt to gouge out Bulger's eyes, has raised questions about why the 89-year-old was moved into a general population cell with known violent offenders.

whitey bulger· fotios geas· hazelton prison· fbi· jack nicholson

36:10 victims of James Whitey Bulger's reign of terror, his violent death Tuesday seemed all too fitting. He deserved a slow death and that is what I hope he got. I'm going to buy myself a bottle of champagne and I am going to pump that crook! We are celebrating the death of in glow. Bulger's eyes were nearly gouged out and two inmates, including a convicted mafia hitman were seen on surveillance video entering bulgers cell Tuesday morning I'm glad he did it if i could put money in his canteen for him. Bulger rose to power by ratting out his rivals In the 70s through the 90s he seemingly ran the winter hill gang with impunity having paid off police and FBI agents

37:12 No! No! Bulger's brutality and ruthlessness inspired Jack Nicholson's character in The Departed. And Johnny Depp played him in the movie Black Mass. In 1995, tipped off to an imminent federal indictment, Bulger and his longtime girlfriend Catherine Gregg went on the run landing him on the FBI's most wanted list when they were finally found 16 years later. They were using fake names and posing as retirees in Southern California Scott Gariola, the FBI special agent who arrested Bulger spoke with 60 Minutes Steve Croft in 2013 I asked him to identify himself and that didn't go over well he asked me to FN identify myself which I did

37:55 And I asked him, I said are you Whitey Bulger? He said yes. You're not supposed to be happy when someone dies but this guy was a monster, a fiend and one of the most horrible people that I ever hoped to meet. Yes, kill whitey and we're glad whitey's dead. Yeah, we're glad This is the message right here kill why? Whitey's dead now which is in coincidence with the Don Lemon commentary and a lot of the other stuff now

38:31 The funny thing about this, about the Whitey Bulger thing was that he besides being tipped off by the FBI so he could escape and kind of live. He was 89 but the federal prisons prison guys kept moving him from prison to prison I think they were trying to get him killed And they finally found a prison with these guys, this one guy in particular who is like a fanatic. He looks like a good-looking guy too! A Greek... never made man, Greek hitman and who hated two things according to one of the reports he hated snitches And he hated people who abused women. And Whitey was both, he used to kill women. Him and a friend of his in the prison... Yeah nice guys! They took him and stuffed something in his mouth and they're starting to kill him by beating him to death. And that doesn't seem to really show that there's no bruises on anybody I guess? I think this guy is going kind of get off. Hey maybe it wasn't extraction. Maybe Whitey isn't dead, who knows?!

39:35 And for the FBI? I don't know. I'm just throwing stuff out. It's not much crazier than Kill Whitey being related to Don Lemon, I mean that's... Kill Whitey! Well they did kill Whitey and that's... Oh man Okay, where were we well I can go back to I have a little clip of Mika talking about the caravan. Oh, okay Let's go back to me Gabriel ski from the morning Joe's let's pull back and look at the politics of this I'm a suburban mom a privileged one for sure But I think I have a pretty good feel for why a lot of these competitive Suburban House districts seem to be trending toward the Democrats and

40:15 Most days it seems like the entire Trump presidency has been purposefully geared toward alienating suburban women. Some of whom chose Trump over Hillary Clinton but are now looking to put a check on this out-of-control presidency, his policies, his scandals, his rhetoric all things that are deeply disturbing too many Americans but if you're a woman and a mom just a regular voter How can you look at Donald Trump's reaction to those bombs sent to some of his most prominent critics and his graceless behavior in the wake of the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting, and not be, to put it bluntly, absolutely disgusted? Bluntly. This week Trump will continue to campaign hard for his Republican candidates not shying away from making this election a referendum all about him.

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Mika Brzezinski, Suburban Women, Republican Referendum

Morning Joe co-host Mika Brzezinski issued a plea to suburban mothers to vote against Republicans as a check on Donald Trump's presidency. Brzezinski argued that Trump's rhetoric and policies are "disgusting" to regular voters and that the 2018 midterms should be a referendum on his character. She specifically cited the mail bombs and the Pittsburgh shooting as reasons for women to abandon the GOP.

mika brzezinski· morning joe· donald trump· suburban women· midterms

39:35 And for the FBI? I don't know. I'm just throwing stuff out. It's not much crazier than Kill Whitey being related to Don Lemon, I mean that's... Kill Whitey! Well they did kill Whitey and that's... Oh man Okay, where were we well I can go back to I have a little clip of Mika talking about the caravan. Oh, okay Let's go back to me Gabriel ski from the morning Joe's let's pull back and look at the politics of this I'm a suburban mom a privileged one for sure But I think I have a pretty good feel for why a lot of these competitive Suburban House districts seem to be trending toward the Democrats and

40:15 Most days it seems like the entire Trump presidency has been purposefully geared toward alienating suburban women. Some of whom chose Trump over Hillary Clinton but are now looking to put a check on this out-of-control presidency, his policies, his scandals, his rhetoric all things that are deeply disturbing too many Americans but if you're a woman and a mom just a regular voter How can you look at Donald Trump's reaction to those bombs sent to some of his most prominent critics and his graceless behavior in the wake of the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting, and not be, to put it bluntly, absolutely disgusted? Bluntly. This week Trump will continue to campaign hard for his Republican candidates not shying away from making this election a referendum all about him.

41:16 There are a lot of segments of the electorate that will determine how things turn out next week. But I say, I beg, I plea to all mothers not just those who live in suburbs but everywhere think about what message voting for Republicans will send to Donald Trump Think about your children. Oh! Won't think of the children You know, who's she kidding? The people that are making it about Donald Trump aren't- isn't Donald Trump. It's everybody else I have a clip

CHAPTER 16 / 41 Discussion

Elizabeth Warren, Geoff Diehl, Campaign Finance Ethics

During a Massachusetts Senate debate, Republican challenger Geoff Diehl accused Senator Elizabeth Warren of illegally fundraising off the Brett Kavanaugh confirmation hearings. Warren claimed she was unaware of any ethics complaints regarding her fundraising activities during the Supreme Court vote. The exchange highlighted Warren's tendency to pivot to criticisms of Donald Trump when faced with direct questions about her own conduct.

elizabeth warren· geoff diehl· brett kavanaugh· massachusetts· ethics committee

41:53 Elizabeth Warren being called out. Oh, this is great! I'm glad you got that. She's called out for election campaign violations. It doesn't...I didn't clip it because I wondered if it would work without seeing that silly expression on her face because that's very key. It works fine. I think it works fine. But the thing is he calls her out on this and she immediately turns into a Donald Trump thing And one other thing that really we found out recently, I think is pretty unconscionable is the fact that Senator Warren was fundraising illegally using the vote on Justice Kavanaugh. The confirmation vote to try to raise money for her campaigns. That just came out you know? That's something that you should not be doing first of all when we were having a national discussion about the Supreme Court trying to fundraise off it but you did and turns out its illegal

42:51 So can I just ask? No, go ahead please. Yeah a question here. I hear Mr. Deal's statement about how wrong it was the way that Dr Ford was treated but i don't remember Mr. Deal speaking up when Donald Trump made fun of her. I don't remember Mr. Deal speaking out when the Republicans were actually ramrodding through the Kavanaugh nomination. I may have dismissed it but I don't remember it You know, that's because Senator Warren I don't look for every opportunity to try to grandstand. Now I didn't want to call you responding to the mayor of Somerville making a pretty negative statement this last week but the fact of the matter is

43:30 That was such an intense moment in our country's history as far as trying to deal with presumption of innocence, the cornerstone of our legal system. And you were willing to throw it right out the window because you were part of the Senate Democrats who are trying to score political points by using poor Dr Ford's testimony as a way to drag down a man without any corroborating evidence? So I don't think I quite understand the answer Because I'm looking for the times when you've called out Donald Trump. When he's made fun of someone like Dr Ford, when he's made fun of someone who is disabled... I would like to drill down on what Representative Deal said The fundraising while the vote was being taken on the Cabinet hearing Did you or did not do that? Actually, I don't know and i dont know what the... Isn't there an ethics committee? Yeah, there has been a complaint filed about a fundraising Then I will check into it but I dont' know

44:28 Yeah, she's toast. Well... She's a Democrat and buckled to Massachusetts nuts. They love Democrats. Do you know what really um... What was noticeable to me when I saw that clip was the incredible because we're almost not used to a debate The last time we saw it debate and well there was Cruz in Beto But you know really in your mind a debate between a Republican and a Democrat is shouting match. It's Trump You know bomb bomb bomb, and this was no This guy's good. Well but but it was very interesting Just because the

CHAPTER 17 / 41 Discussion

Barack Obama, Wisconsin Rally, Stuttering Incident

Former President Barack Obama campaigned in Wisconsin, attempting to energize Democratic voters by criticizing the Republican focus on the migrant caravan. Observers noted that Obama appeared physically aged and struggled with stuttering while speaking without a teleprompter. Obama used the "Charlie Brown and the football" analogy to describe voters who believe Republican promises, while critics pointed out his own unfulfilled promises regarding "shovel-ready" jobs.

barack obama· wisconsin· midterms· shovel-ready jobs· charlie brown

45:06 The format is I mean here's what like to lead into. I'm noticing that people are either trying to go the opposite way like this very calm and collected or Like President Obama Trying to do a little bit of Trumpy as stuff Obama can't do it yeah, but he's trying He's trying to get mad and he's trying to you know well. Yeah You have the stammering clip about the caravan? Yeah, let me see how long mine is Let me see have it here. Oh yeah, this is he's in Wisconsin which is of course very important and yeah exactly the same length and mine's a little longer. We had the same clip. Yeah but let's just... This is Obama

45:52 And it's actually the first time I saw this, somebody said look at this and I looked at it but I never turned the sound on because I was just watching him. He looks like he is seriously unglued. He is freaky looking his hair has almost turned half grey He just doesn't look healthy. He looks terrible and when he does this bit here, he has no prompter And he's just going shooting off the cuff and we know what happens when he's shooting off the cuff. He starts to stutter Yeah, he stutters

46:28 So here he is in Wisconsin, which is now claimed as the... that was the state with only 70 000 votes. He's trying to rile everybody I think there are only a thousand people maybe in the audience? What didn't seem like a huge crowd. A thousand people of anything is pretty big and I think he's really trying to do a little bit of Trump energy That's the thing that is the most important thing in this election not healthcare whether or not Folks are able to retire, not doing something about higher wages or rebuilding our roads and bridges and putting people back to work.

47:10 I thought he was just spouting off. By the way, where was he during his eight years so far as rebuilding roads and bridges? He wasn't president for eight years! Where are these roads and bridges?! Don't you remember when he started off shovel-ready? Shovel ready jobs yeah shovel ready jobs... And then the banks got all the money Oh silly us. But yes, suddenly he's also... Why aren't you getting jobs? It seems like we do have more jobs but okay. This group of folks! It's just now it's not notice how it goes from

47:46 Asylum seekers, people very sad trying to get away from certain death in their country which is what we've been told. It's like these people are running for the lives they just want a better life and now he's diminishing them. Putting people back to work suddenly it's this group of folks... We don't even know where they are they're way down there That's the biggest thing as soon as the elections over Everybody would be like, what? What happened? We were being invaded. Where did it go? You know what? It would be funny except they do it every time and too often it works. Everybody gets all freaked out and we got to stop falling for this stuff! We're like Charlie Brown with the football.

48:47 You can't fall for that okie doke! Don't be hoodwinked, don't be- I love we can bring our old songs back now. Yeah the okie doke. The okie doke Oh man, wait there was something else in there. Oh yes he says Lucy and the football and this is this was interesting to me just as Charlie Brown Charlie Brown with a football because I was reading let me see let me see where this is there was an article that I got to an article from 1990 about Trump and Let's see where it is

CHAPTER 18 / 41 Discussion

Donald Trump, 1990 Vanity Fair, Media Playbook

A 1990 Vanity Fair article detailing Donald Trump's divorce from Ivana Trump reveals that the media has been using the same "fractal" playbook for decades. The article describes journalists in the 1990s expressing regret for "creating" Trump's persona and buying into his publicity stunts. This historical context suggests that the current adversarial relationship between Trump and the press is a repetition of a long-standing cycle.

donald trump· vanity fair· marla maples· ivana trump· media cycle

49:37 I'm not quite sure, it was...I was led to it from some other article from last year and its around the time when you know, Marlon Maples is just coming into his life. The casino has gone down there's all this stuff happening and its a vanity fair actually so Big big piece, you know about all the grandeur and his rise to power and how everyone loves him and the rap stars And then all of a sudden he had this horrible bankruptcy and he comes right back and in The media just was all over him. And at the end of the article

50:13 and this is why I'm a little pissed, I can't find it that easily. It actually says that the press is waiting for him in the press room at the courthouse for one of his many pieces litigation and the journalists are there yelling at each other, I can't believe it! We built this guy we gave him all the publicity and now he's screwing us ah we hate this guy like...it's a complete fractal They've already gone through this one. Oh, that's actually what I filed it under fractal there you go It's Donald and Ivana Trump's divorce the full story Let me just read the last the last paragraph to you so I get it

50:52 It's a very long article. Here it is, I wandered down to the press... this is the writer, the interviewer. I wandered down to the press room on the fifth floor to hear about Trump's testimony. The reporters sounded weary they had heard it all before quote God damnit one shouted at me we created him! We bought his bullshit he was always phony and we filled our papers with him They've done it before! It's his playbook. Fractal! It's total... do I have the fractal thing? I haven't used that in so long. Yeah, it is a fractal. It's a good catch. Well, I thought of you when I read that like holy crap they've been down this road with him. It was a fractal. Now just staying on this for one second Scaramucci, the Scaramouche was on Bill Maher

CHAPTER 19 / 41 Discussion

Anthony Scaramucci, Bill Maher, Trump Media Strategy

Anthony Scaramucci appeared on Real Time with Bill Maher to explain Donald Trump's strategy of using "lies" to galvanize his base. Scaramucci argued that the media's obsession with fact-checking every statement actually helps Trump by riling up his supporters who feel ignored by the government. The panel, including Max Boot and Betsy Woodruff, rejected Scaramucci's analysis, insisting that the "assault on truth" requires constant animated opposition.

anthony scaramucci· bill maher· max boot· betsy woodruff· real time

51:42 Friday yeah, and you know this the show was actually was interesting to watch yet stormy Daniel's on he didn't ask anything of any importance except at the end said you did something important for the country like It is worthy watching just for that one quote from Bill Maher with Scaramucci's I'm promoting his book so scare moochie for 11 days was the press secretary for Trump and now Now this is a couple minutes. And I believe his sole purpose to be there was to get rid of Rance Priebus, came in as a hatchet man Oh very possible now what he is going to do in this clip and he was really of course the odd man out you got Max Boot

52:23 Who's on the panel along with Betsy Woodruff who is from The Daily Beast. She is frightening, she just like... Ice cold, just piking points and grimacing and eye rolling And then you got Marr and Scaramouche. And Scaramouche is desperate He was on the panel? He was on the panel Oh that's different So he's outnumbered so he really outnumbered But what he trying to do Is explain to Bill Maher in particular, but to everybody on the panel what Trump is doing with the media when it comes to lies. And so you know and there's this whole lead-in which I'd left off of Bill Maher reading all the lies and everyone's getting like he lies! He just lies! He's such a liar!

53:07 Liar! Thousands of lies, so many lies. And Scaramouche the whole time is trying to... Well let me just explain what's happening So because you're you know and he actually says You'll hear it in this clip If you want to beat him listen to me Do you think they listened by the way? No, it's an incredibly important point here to refute what Anthony is trying to say here Which is that you know somehow politicians lie and he maybe lies a little bit more. Now this is off the charts line This was a blizzard of bullshit By the way in all of these shows

53:43 There's a real problem that they're going to have to address pretty soon. You cannot produce a television show where after everything someone says, which is pretty much all virtue signaling you get 15 seconds of applause It's annoying as a viewer. They have to figure something out because it makes the clip twice as long. A lot of politicians lie a little bit, for Donald Trump lying is the default mode according to The Washington Post he lies an average of eight times a day if he tells the truth it's an accident okay? So calling him out on it is a lot like being the hall monitor in the elementary school. Calling him out on it just like... Elementary schools need hall monitors! You want to listen, because I can really help you if you obviously want to beat the guy right? Yes Okay so if you wanna listen and I can actually provide some insight. Go ahead. Hit me baby. What he's doing

54:44 galvanizing his base. He has figured out that by mechanizing these words the way he has and getting you upset and Max upset, having ten people at CNN read the lies... I think The Washington Post has them with 6,000 lies? Let's say it is 10,000 lies. It is record-breaking anyway! Okay let us say 50,000 Let me make the point and say it's 50,000 what he's doing is he's got the volume up on something And he's made it a calculated bet that the people that are voting for him don't care about that and he's made a calculated bet Why I said right? But okay. What is the so what is the alternative if you're saying don't call them out on the lie? Say in this what minutes thing he said all of that doesn't matter we won and they lost

55:27 What did he say? I get that, but what is the alternative to not calling out lies. We all live in a world where we're pretending what the Mad King sees as we all see it. No no no... If he says the sky is purple and we don't call him out on that because it will upset him? It's okay to call them out on it but you see how upset you are getting right now there's a group of people- I should be upset! Everybody should be upset! He's not getting it. There's a lot of people in the country that feel they haven't gotten a fair shake from their government. So if you call them out for the lies, people think you're not being fair? Is that what they're saying? You know what, you're going to lose again in 2020 so good luck to you guys. And here is really important though... You are going to lose again and when you invite me back after the election and he has won again I'll explain to you what he did to you. You've explained it but its not really advancing the argument at some point At some point No, you don't like the explanation but thats the strategy and its working Now this woman is gonna say something another minute

56:22 I couldn't really take her out because of context, but she's annoying. At some point in the next two years there is going to be a national crisis There is going to be some sort of mass casualty event or recession Or economic disaster and the American people will need to know that someone In a position of authority Is telling them things that are true And every time the president tells A ridiculous mythological magical nonsensical lie Yes! There is a defense you can make from this political Machiavellian perspective But in the long term, for this country it's laying the groundwork... He said, if you notice, Mooch comes in and says that's a chicken little argument.

57:20 large group of people in middle america that like animated because we can't be We need to be animated about this assault on truth, Anthony. And we can't even really see it seems like we got a strategy max and I actually give you the playbook i know You keep saying the same thing but we're not having the same conversation No, let's bring out Jonathan. It's okay. We're at two different levels So Mooch is trying to say Trump, the whole idea is he riles everybody up and his supporters love watching you blow your top. And he's blowing his top as he saying that this is dumb! It's very funny that one of the really good...that's an outstanding borderline clip of the day Now Mooch did a good job on that I thought. Borderline!

CHAPTER 20 / 41 Discussion

Jon Stewart, Christiane Amanpour, Journalist Identity Politics

Jon Stewart told Christiane Amanpour that journalists have fallen into a trap by taking Donald Trump's "fake news" insults personally. Stewart argued that Trump appeals to the narcissism of the press, causing them to view themselves as a victimized group rather than objective observers. By adopting the mantle of the "enemy of the people," the media has allowed Trump to shift the conversation from policy to a personal fight that he is better equipped to win.

jon stewart· christiane amanpour· identity politics· fake news· narcissism

58:08 To back up that clip, I have the Jon Stewart on Trump where he explains what Trump is doing to journalists. And again nobody's really paying much attention This is Christiane Amontpour and I think he's doing a thing over in London with Dave Chappelle They're doing some kind of comedy special So do you think because obviously we're all caught up in this sort of daily Trump fest. I mean, every single newspaper, every radio station, every bit of social media got to make money too well. You've got bills to pay man you've got electric bills, you've got food. This guy is he's giving you all cash the cash flow in the Trump era for

58:55 For these TV stations and for this is the can I say that might have been an issue? And maybe it still is an issue for the people who are there being counters, but we're either journalists We I think believe that our job is to navigate The truth and to do the fact-checking in all the rest of us So I think that's what motivates. I think the journalist have taken it personally okay They're personally wounded and offended by this man He baits them and they dive in and what he's done well I thought his appeal to their own narcissism To their own ego Because what he says is these are the been the journalists stand up and say we are noble. We are honorable How dare you sir, and they take it personally And now he's changed the conversation to not that his policies are Silly or not working or any of those other things? It's all about the fight He's able to tune out

59:43 everything else and get people just focused on the fight. He's going to win that fight! Even Bob Woodward said in his book on the Trump White House, a lot of journalists are too emotional about this but it is hard for us to be dispassionate when words from the White House are aggressive against us Raise the spectrum of violence against us. No, no we're used to it believe me. We've been out there in the field. Think of Muslims think of the black community You know what he's doing? What's happening right here is Jon Stewart is explaining identity politics as it pertains to journalists

1:00:19 He's saying, and he does I don't think he realizes it but the identity politics of primarily the Democrat Party is speaking to LGBTQ communities. Speaking to the people-of-color community speaking to the Latino community speaking to all these different communities and now he's literally putting the journalists into a politically identified group as a victim. This would be natural to him him. Yeah, I think it's identity politics. Now he says a number of things that I find to be quite interesting but i'm reminded of the early Trump campaign before he actually was running but he was starting the run or maybe right after he came down the escalator Wait is that when you said all Mexicans are rapists?

1:01:29 Yeah, that yeah that that's when he did because that by the way is repeated every day. It's not even question Nobody cared. That's not a lie No, that's not a lie. No, I know so but death But anyway, I remember him being interviewed down in that inside the Grits Grand Central Hyatt with by Katie Turrer Oh yeah. And he insulted her, we had the clip He insulted her a number of times. Says well you know your not doing very good job at it this is not the right clinic You want me to help answer these questions because apparently don't know what your doing Something like that and then within with an event I think she did from there on she just held a grudge And she couldn't get it out of her craw, and then then the next time we saw it that we exploited it Where were we exploited? It was this let's see was it Katie Turr unloads on Trump over violence at rallies No this no. This would this was the result for I don't think you can find that oh wait Katie Turr versus Trump

1:02:28 Maybe let's play it. It says part three so let's see you want this months of flying under the radar and refusing to comment on Trump Rubio is now attacking perhaps smelling blood in the water Okay, anyway the next one that happened that we put on the show was major Garrett who also had this huge hard-on for Trump after this. He insulted him, he says you know maybe you should do your job a little better or something just some minor thing but you could see that Garrett was insulted and these journalists are actually the ones who are thin skinned And I think Stuart nailed it. Yes, he nailed it! These guys are all biting at the chomping at the bit to like you know get back at Trump instead of doing their job and that's what we've kind of our show is about doing their job for them and you're right Stuart nails that he says the way these people must feel because then of course they feel that way because of what the victimization that's being pumped into them mainly from Democrat politicians

1:03:30 You know, that yeah that's hurtful and so that's what it's like with you guys. And you're not realizing that even though he said the fake news is enemy of the people It has now boiled down to do you have a press card? You might as well have a target on your head. And by the way it was the media itself that, you know they're worried about Trump's lies but they're the ones... They are the ones. It is the media that turned it from fake news as the enemy of people which was what he said. In true fake news fashion! And they and they, the media in general didn't like that so much they wanted to be the enemy of the people because there are the one who changed it. They wanted to be the victim

1:04:14 They wanted to be the victim. There's not one journalist that doesn't know that's a lie. He never said that, so they want to be the victim and now they're reaping their victims. Fake news. But they, so Stuart I think we always sense this kind of thing but I'm glad Stuart said this because I don't think we fully realize the horror that these people have put themselves up for. Themselves! To listen to Scaramucci lecture them and then get worked up right in front your very eyes it's an eye opener It's beautiful

CHAPTER 21 / 41 Discussion

Jake Tapper, Nazi Comparisons, Right-Wing Radicalization

A CNN analyst on Jake Tapper's program compared Donald Trump's use of the military at the border to the "Reichstag fire" and accused the "right-wing propaganda industry" of radicalizing domestic terrorists. The analyst named Mark Levin, Rush Limbaugh, and Judicial Watch as having "blood on their hands" for inciting violence. This rhetoric mirrors the "othering" tactics used in identity politics to frame political opponents as existential threats.

jake tapper· cnn· reichstag fire· mark levin· rush limbaugh

1:04:58 Now we have this guy that I don't remember his name but he came on Jake Tapper's show, I believe. And Tapper says yes yes everything you said This is a clip that has been going around another example of a guy who is completely off the deep end trying to hold it together He's an analyst, I believe. I don't have his name here and he starts going on in this very long clip it's 218 you can kill if you think it's boring but he gives all the talking points that the Democrats are starting to use and one of them which is in here and I've heard It was done by one of the commentators on CNN. It's done by which people have clipped for me There's a bunch of people saying it Trump is worse than Isis Yes, we know that it's on the rotation making easy using I six ISIS tactics to Radicalize the public in general you know there's been the right-wing machine is somehow radicalizing everybody into ISIS and To even use that as a comparison you have to be so hard on

1:05:58 And again, you're talking about Trump. Talk about issues and talk about the roads do something else but no no they're gonna go this is direction that Democrats are going what we are seeing just as we saw young displaced evil or sick or just plain losers be radicalized by ISIS is evil actual term evil on the rotation list I have a feeling, because i've heard this a couple times. Evil. Yeah but yeah well I don't think it was just... We are seeing the same thing in the United States right now these two losers these two sick people these two evil people three evil people being radicalized by this right-wing propaganda industry. Who is the third person?

1:06:51 Kentucky. Oh, and that's exactly what it is this whole Caravan in the last week of the election is a giant lie This is Trump's Reichstag fire United States military the most powerful armed force in the world would be deployed at a brigade size Unit level to the southern border, you know. I just want to make one, you know having grown up in the Netherlands I'm very sensitive to the Nazi stuff because they grew up me over sensitive oversensitized to that because like kids I played with The grandmothers were home they had numbers tattooed on their arm so it you know this this was there This was not brought up

1:07:36 Certainly not in this context, but there was kind of a general agreement and we're not gonna blame the Jews for anything But we're not gonna blame the Germans or anyone else for that like Nazi stuff And you know You can't have it's in in Europe at least at the time. You couldn't do that Like this it was look we fought that war It's done everyone step back from it by the way in that article That's how I got to an article about Trump and the press. It wasn't article that he has a a book, this goes back to 1990 that he has a book of Hitler's speeches next to his bed.

1:08:11 Yeah, so they've been doing this thing a lot. Sure he does! And of course that later morphed into he has Mein Kampf next to his bed but I digress... But this is really unconscionable. I think it's just as bad as calling Jews out as being responsible for anything It's horrible and yet it's passible To stop this caravan which is 1,000 miles away made up of women and children the insinuations that its filled with terrorists and Middle Easterners 40% of the country has opted into an alternate reality. We have to wake up in this country and understand the danger that this presents to all of us, we can't put our heads in the sand. Kellyanne Conway despicably today goes on national television she said well this shooters motives were because there's a anti-religious sentiment no ma'am

1:09:07 the propaganda industry that she commands with the vile president that she serves abetted by Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh and Breitbart and newsbusters, and Judicial Watch, and all the rest of them. Man couldn't we get on that list? They mentioned almost everybody! Have blood on their hands for the incitements that they have made that have triggered and radicalized these crazy people it is deliberate in intent he scapegoats minority populations he alleges conspiracies he creates a sense

1:09:45 shared and virtuous victimhood positions himself as the Avenger and there is no cost too high so long as it benefits his narcissism, so long as it benefits him politically. Good job! Well signaled well I certainly have something to say about that specifically what the cause of these people doing these things is I have some thoughts but I'd like to first thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C. Dvorak where the c stands for caravan of love

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No Agenda Value for Value, Advertising Skepticism

The No Agenda Show operates on a "Value for Value" model, rejecting traditional advertising to maintain editorial independence. The hosts argue that venture capital and "brand safe" advertising requirements prevent genuine news deconstruction and lead to censorship. By relying solely on listener contributions of time, talent, and treasure, the program avoids the pressures that often cause mainstream media outlets to fold or compromise their content.

value for value· no agenda· adam curry· john c dvorak· podcasting

1:10:28 In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry! In the morning all ships that see boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there... In the morning to The Troll Room who always see the bat signal appear and they even tweet ToTheTrollRoom And we appreciate y'all showing up here That is at noagendastream.com We love having you guys keeping us company makes a show that much more exciting if you do any type of podcast I would recommend That you try and stream it live while you're recording. The feedback loop is incredibly important It also makes you feel that your alive, that your doing something You get some feedback I like it very much so its appreciated Also in the morning to Mark G two in a row We could not live without using this piece of artwork he created for us for episode 1081 Didn't Darren do the one before? No Mark G

1:11:23 Okay, I think yeah Aaron did an 80 that's right. Yeah So 1080 with 1081 blexit and the cover art was a Warhol esque depiction of Trump and got a lot of discussion about this yeah A lot of people liked it a lot of people like then we liked it too is fantastic And we really appreciate mark G Thank you for your courage he does some jobs karma come I think he wanted jobs karma I'll make sure he gets that. And thanks to all of our artists who diligently are uploading art, it's tough sometimes to choose but you can see all the artwork at noagendaartgenerator.com and it is a part of our value network or Value for Value system which I will just reiterate quickly we long ago decided and along the way our conviction was confirmed

1:12:15 That there's really no way to monetize the network the best way to you know, I think it from your perspective John came from the book publishing model where people buy the content and Then they said it's supported by the audience Now we have a little different audience. They are our audiences producers they've actively involved with the program sending us their there's Their expertise their creative work and also financial And it's all based on what is the show worth to you if you're getting something out of it put something into it turns out when? You put something into it usually get something out of it now I'm not claiming that a jingle with karma can give you a job, but

1:12:58 participating the network has proven to work for a lot of people, a lot of the time. And we also made the determination early on that because of the content that we wanted to do when we started developing the model of news deconstruction, that we couldn't do it with advertising. No! Because and we've seen example... We harp on the examples that we see see out there that were people who are thrown off a network or the advertisers pulled out in the show folded, or they got pressured. Well I ran a whole network funded by venture capital money and i proved that it cannot be done

1:13:38 Right, that's where the brand safe moniker comes from by the way. There was a mantra there. Brand safe advertising means you can't really produce what you want to. No cussing is what it really amounts to! I got so many notes for different topic we'll talk about and one of them was from Naive London Girl And she had a show about sex and we had it on Podshow UK. And I remember, we sometimes obfuscated from our homepage because some investor would see it just investors alone and then you know what? We're going on to pitch. We're gonna pitch some advertising out take and take naive London girl off the front put somewhere else so they don't see her cause he had a big boob and stuff in her album art

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Executive Producer Donations, Sir Woody, Baron Matt

Sir Woody contributed $1,000 to the show, noting that the program's show notes were invaluable for a recent keynote speech. Baron Matt from Melbourne donated $333, requesting "F-Cancer" karma for his brother-in-law Renzo. Other significant producers include Sir Achilles, who ran a marathon while listening to the show, and Sir Finch, who increased his donation after experiencing PayPal glitches. These contributions support the show's infrastructure and research.

sir woody· baron matt· melbourne· marathon· health savings account

1:14:18 Yeah, well it said naive London girl on it. But yeah so you really will never reach your potential and you continue to be a slave this is why whenever someone says hey do you want to come do this quick interview on this network? I'm like no! No because I know that when I get in there I am going to be really disappointed because its gonna be 15 seconds and they are going to ask me something completely stupid You know, and it's boring. And then we'll have to... We can't even have a discussion because it was time for an ad break and then it's on the next... No! It's lame I couldn't even do it anymore if I wanted to So we have this model and people appreciate it, I think Especially this week on this show 1082 Sir Woody appreciates it to the tune of $1,000 Whoa! I'm afraid I've been overboard again he writes

1:15:13 and not caught recent shows, but want to let you know that you're still appreciated. I recently asked to give a keynote at a conference and your show notes were invaluable. Ah good another valuable thing that by the way the show notes are if your student yes fantastic go to any value in a show notes dot com or if you want to search him bing it dot IO were invaluable in helping me gather supporting links. It was unpaid, but something I enjoyed a lot and found it rewarding so in keeping with the value for value model, I figure $1 for each of the 1,000 or show people that were there is a worthy contribution to your support hopefully this is just noise in a tsunami of donations as you certainly deserve that for the work

1:15:59 Well, Sir Woody you are the crest of the tsunami my friend. Yes Thank you so much that's very I'm gonna hit him with a karma if you don't mind because Let me see where is my karma bucket? Oh there it is. You've got Karma Baron Matt in Melbourne Australia $333 Greetings from Baron Matt in Melbourne help happy 11th anniversary intentionally late to buffer the donation doldrums after big drive spending a couple of days in dimension B recently. No agenda thinking, help me to understand cope and even have some fun."

1:16:37 Well, I usually find the donation karma finds its way to me regardless. I want to make sure that this one focuses on someone else Can you send the karma from this donation in the F cancer variety to my brother-in-law? Renzo who could really do with it Thank You for your courage Baron Matt in Melbourne yes of course we can You've got karma. F that can't! F it, f it. Fred Van Leeuwen. No no, it's Fred van Leeuwen. Fred Van Leeuwen in Hilversum

1:17:27 Ah, Fred wanted to know if there was still going to be a meetup on the 7th or the 9th of November in The Netherlands. It may not happen I was hoping to come over but I think with before the end of the year we will be able to do this I think but we'll send out a bat signal when it's time We need to put together mailing lists for the for the Hollanders Yes yes and thank you very much Fred appreciate Yeah he sent in 26789 Thank You Sir Achilles 262 in Noblesville, Indiana. Sir Achilles here last year I hung up the soccer cleats after rupturing both of my achilles Wow and a three-year period I decided to replace soccer with running

1:18:15 Here's 262 in honor of me running in my first marathon, 26.2 miles on Saturday November 3rd I did the math and have logged over 400 miles and training over the last four months darn near all those miles were spent listening to no agenda if I can make a donation you guys straight from my health savings account I would because you guys in the chiropractor there is no way could have made it this far without you guys in the chiropractor My son recently joined the Cub Scouts and I have to say, I'm extremely impressed with the entire program. If a listener out there is an elementary age child, I encourage you to sign them up! It is fun getting to see kids do something besides playing Fortnite and watching YouTubers play Fortnite." How sick are we?

1:19:02 I want to give a shout out to my brother Eric, since he is the only person in 11 years that i've been able to hit in the mouth. But it took the 2016 election to get him hooked! Also want to give a shout out to my wife who was woke but sadly doesn't listen and often asks me with maximum disdain... Oh what do John and Adam think about that? No you're not doing it right no no ok Yeah, what do you John Adam think about it? Maybe maybe she's in a me get that we got the vocal fry in there. Yeah Hey tolerating so this hope and its hope Let me try it again But no but you know what is she still she's still trying to connect with her with her man

1:19:52 With something adhesive she might as well saying to who was the quarterback, you know What do John and Think about that She's more of a boring person. Yeah, she's an amazing spouse that without her the marathon wouldn't be possible So we're just joking around of course yeah If possible can I get a stay woke karma for the run and the night me baby song by the way? She doesn't listen to show so she's not gonna hear that

1:20:27 Night Me Baby song, night me baby with a talented producer that a talented producer wrote based on my nighting email last year. Thanks for 11 great years I'm so glad i thought John was funny on Cranky Geeks and look for more of his stuff back in 2007. I've been an awful good slave. Not me, baby! Not me on a podcast tonight. My millennials stay woke You've got karma Nailed it That was Sir Achilles in Noblesville Indiana 262 Sir Finch in Corvallis Oregon 23456 and he sent a note

1:21:23 He wrote it longhand, very, very... And he needs to take some penmanship. Not penmanship but I would say calligraphy. Was going to give you one-one-one for your 11th but since PayPal glitched three times while trying to complete the donation, I figured I'd up the amount to a producer level Always happy 11th anniversary. Love you guys, thanks for the laughs and the sanity title change which we do have yes, he's Complex name to a more simple name Cheers 211 more will keep this short and sweet since my hand is cramping But he did it yeah, I did no jingles. No karma all right. Thank you very much through your courage

1:22:11 Andrew Cantrell in Womberl, New South Wales Australia. 2322731 Great email. No? Did you get it? Go ahead Johnny! You can find it! Do you have it yet? I don't know...I just opened it. Got 20 seconds He's doing it ladies and gentlemen It's the new oldest newest You want mail?! You got Squirrel Mail Do you have it? I have two quotes from Andy Cantrell. One from May 22nd, 2018 and one from May 27th 2018 and there's nothing after that Oh damn well i was too busy playing the music i should guess i should look who we're looking for David St. George check it out You don't have strobosome so can play the music No! I wish...I'm not..i'm just not woke enough

1:23:15 Let me see. Well, Andrew sent us a note and another note we'll read it when you can...when it comes through No I'm sorry he shows up in a lot of donation notes for sure but not not a new one Onward to Montana May in Blacklick Ohio second on my list to Naubone as the great city's name she wrote a note in which I keep my reading glasses and put them aside for the squirrel mail thing John and Adam, and by the way her donation was 22222 which is 11111 times 2. I'm a first-time donor so i believe a de-douching... Oh! It's in order. You've been de-douched

1:24:03 I'm requesting some research karma from my smoking hot boyfriend. He is a long time listener who donates via an anonymous monthly subscription he turned me on to the show six months ago when we first started dating needless to say i've been hooked Makes sense. Like most other note writers, you provide me with some awesome sanity-keeping news analysis which prevents me from burying my head in the sand to stay sane! It works! Anyway, he is a hard-working PhD chemistry candidate who is on his way to a national lab to finish his five and half year venture. Maybe some karma from the good folks at The Know Agenda will keep everything... Will help everything fall into place. Also congrats Adam on the engagement. I thought the proposal was on point. Thank you!

1:24:56 It is... if it's not pushing my requesting luck, please play the foamer clip. Nothing so simple has given me as many laughs as Foamer Boy losing it! Thank you and keep up the amazing work. Best Montana made. Oh my god! Wooo! Listen to that horn! You've got karma Did you see Dame Tanya? tweeted she was getting on the train with the observation deck. Yeah? You've created a whole new FOMER out of her! Good! Dame, Dame FOMER Tanya yeah and she tweeted oh my god listen to that horn it's taking on life of its own people are starting to appreciate the great railways of their past and the current New Yorks got lots of trains you can take every which way yes commuters mostly but they're still trains

1:25:54 That was Montana. John Klen, I think Klenny or Klenks, K-L-E-N-E in Cincinnati Ohio 200 bucks no jingles no Carmen that wraps up our executive and associate executive producer segment for show 1082. Yes and thank you all so much these credits as always are real So if you're an executive producer or an associate executive producer, you can put that anywhere credits are recognized and you are the executive producer of episode 1082 of The No Agenda Show best podcast in the universe. If anyone questions you let us know we'll gladly vouch for you! And I look forward to thanking more people $50 and above in our second segment another show on the way on Sunday please remember us at Dvorak.org

CHAPTER 24 / 41 Discussion

Gab.ai De-platforming, Andrew Torba, NPR Interview

Social media platform Gab.ai was de-platformed by hosting providers, DNS services, and payment processors following the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting. CEO Andrew Torba defended the site in an NPR interview, stating that Gab adheres to the First Amendment and cooperates with law enforcement. Critics argue the site is a haven for white nationalists, while Torba maintains that "bad speech" should be countered with "more speech" rather than censorship.

gab.ai· andrew torba· npr· de-platforming· first amendment

1:26:38 Slash and a yeah, we're helping you keep your sanity. So why don't you go out there propagate the formula? I formula is this we go out We hit people in the mouth I am so I want to talk for a second about you know People you know going crazy and they're on the social media And they're killing people and and this came to ahead with the squirrel Hill synagogue shooter

1:27:17 Then we discussed it, I think as we were talking about it on Sunday. Gab.ai was a gab.io or gab the social network gab. Yeah gabs. Was as they call it no platformed which includes taking It's basically the cabal of technology where you have all your little bits and bobs, and you have your DNS provider. Because it is so outrageous that they would provide DNS lookup for you because I don't know... You're associated with Jew haters or whatever else the media throws on you

1:27:56 and killers, and crazy people. And just nut jobs so they'll say we're not going to provide that for you where your hosting provider and then PayPal. So these guys basically got wiped out I would say the No matter what you do, if you have anything centralized and certainly if their model is not advertising but if your model's advertising there are a lot of problems. But first I want to just hear NPR talking about Gab after the synagogue attack. And I do want to point out that in this interview

1:28:38 They did with the founder of gab. He posted the whole, you know it's very typical they called this woman actually called him he recorded the whole conversation was about 15 minutes and most of what he was saying is You know, we adhere strictly to the First Amendment. So if you incite hate where someone reports it we take you down but sitting here we're not policing everything and only if it comes to a reportable event then then we'll take that down and we've worked tirelessly with law enforcement We have a whole record of this guy. We gave everything none of that is in the interview Of course critics have called it a home for anti-Semites and white nationalists

1:29:17 Robert Bowers was a... I like that unattributed critics. That's pretty, that's pretty nasty when i think about it Critics have called it a home for white nationalists. Well, could you tell me one critic maybe? Who calls it that or do you have someone there? Semites and white Nationalists Robert Bowers was a user before allegedly going on a killing spree He posted about the Hebrew immigrant AIDS Society A group that supports refugees he said the group quote likes to bring invaders That kill our people I can't sit by and watch my people get slaughtered screw your optics I'm going in

1:29:54 Andrew Torba is the CEO of Gab. In an interview with NPR, he defended the platform. I don't know do you see a direct threat in there? Because i don't what would you expect us to do with posts like that so you want us to just censor anybody that says the phrase I'm going in Is that what your proposing here? Well... And here's the thing he answers bad speech or hate speech however you wanted define that is more speech And it always will be. When does online free speech become a threat? This isn't the first time the issue has come up in social media just last week, it came to light that the man accused of sending explosive devices to prominent Democrats and the media had a history of threatening tweets

1:30:40 Torba says Gab follows strict rules, including no threats. He says he created Gab because he saw no room for conservative points of view on social media. Take Twitter. of people calling for someone to kill Donald Trump, saying they're going to kill Donald Trump. Expressing hate towards white people, towards Christians, towards minorities who may now support Donald Trump. They allow hate to be spewed at certain groups and certain people." So where is the line between free speech and inciting violence? I think the line is where free speech becomes

1:31:21 a threat. Kelly McBride is the senior vice president at the Poynter Institute for Media Studies, she says Torba is prioritizing free speech above all other constitutional values and that is not necessarily what our constitutional framers intended right? They didn't want the government curbing free speech nor did they want citizens to be irresponsible with their speech she says Last year Google banned Gap's app. Apple rejected it and Microsoft terminated its agreement with it last month I didn't even know all that was going on

1:31:57 Just in the last 24 hours, at least two web hosting platforms have suspended Gab. CEO Andrew Torba is not backing down. We're not going anywhere! Torba says Gab condemns the shooting but he thinks it's now being targeted unfairly over the weekend The social media site was filled with anger some of it directed at the Jewish community Great so gab is immediate because it's for free speech is immediately alt-right Jew haters, you know crazy crazy people and a lot of a lot of what is going on as blamed on President Trump and the rhetoric but I think I've I'm developing a theory And I want your feedback on it John because I am putting a lot of things together and it really started

CHAPTER 25 / 41 Discussion

Twitter Algorithms, Shadow Banning, Engagement Inventory

The phenomenon of "shadow banning" is actually a function of Twitter's engagement algorithm, which surfaces replies designed to provoke user interaction. The algorithm's primary goal is to create advertising inventory by keeping users engaged through emotional triggers, often anger. This "over-socialization" can lead to real-world violence, as the machine learning models prioritize conflict over calm discourse to maximize clicks.

twitter· algorithm· shadow banning· engagement· machine learning

1:32:48 A couple days ago there was this tweet or someone said, hey check and see if you're shadow banned. And of course we've talked about shadow banning like well let me see what this is so I didn't have to enter my password or make it an app or anything just entered your Twitter username And I couldn't understand the results that were coming back. It was like one of those, you know hosted at a in a tilde slash directory on someone's university account You know what? I mean where it's basically dot HTM almost so very slick a Perl script running somewhere and What I was spinning back was, it had a number of posts like the last 10 posts not shadow banned but then had stuff that would say 6 people saw it 3 people saw it you know then 130% very odd and it dawned on me. I finally figured out what's happening with this so called shadow banning is

1:33:44 This is really the algorithm that Twitter uses and I'm going to assert that it's the same algo that Facebook uses. Now there's no algo on for instance Reddit, and the algorithm on Instagram is a little different but when it comes to Pure, and I'm just gonna keep it Twitter for make it easy What the algorithm does is if you post a tweet and let's say you get eight responses, the so-called shadow banning is really what the replies are coming back which if you look at your Twitter timeline everything is kind of the same weight in design. You know it's like tweets kinda as big as your own original tweet

1:34:28 The algorithm is deciding which of the replies it's going to surface. So you'll see your original tweet and there's like a reply, and then maybe seven more underneath there. And so this is where kind of this oh I got shadow banned yeah I'm trying to tweet to you but you're not seeing it people aren't seeing it... This is what the actual algo does and it makes sense You know, coming from the RSS world I was a part of that very early on and you know and everyone had Google Reader. And you could with your blogs go back-and-forth but people weren't freaking out on each other. This goes back to Usenet if i may be so bold as to raise that. Usenet there was a lot of vitriol, a lot of hate it was a lot of moderation... and this is where Goodwin's Law came from

1:35:14 From from the old Godwin's Law, the old bulletin boards. But it was not the same nuttiness that we're seeing on Twitter and I was reading an article about if you remember the That Microsoft they had that tie or Tay the AI chat bot that it was on the web for 24 hours. That was recently, yeah. Yeah 24 hours and then they had to take it down because all I was doing was tweeting like you know Hitler was right! You know kill all the Jews and just insane stuff but here's what I think I understand about what's going on

1:35:51 The, in fact here's what they say. Microsoft said the AI chatbot Tay is a machine learning project designed for human engagement as it learns some of its responses are inappropriate and indicative of the types of interactions some people are having with it we're making some adjustments to tay and then thing never came back because I believe that this magical algorithm that is used for engagement... So let's understand that on Twitter The algorithm has one job and then because we know the goal, we can reverse engineer what's going on. The goal is to create inventory every single time you click on something a new page or something appears but it really is an advertising inventory. You agree with that?

1:36:38 I'm not gonna disagree with it. Well, so the algorithm doesn't know what you're doing is you're taking ownership of Twitter and this is how You reverse engineer something to make money, this is how you do it. Yeah and this of course is the fallacy This is the problem with Twitter because of their model Their model is advertising Advertising needs inventory It needs what they call engagement So engagement is created by the algorithm How does the algorithm do it? It doesn't know what you don't like It only knows what you have clicked on and it takes that as a one. It's really only a 1 or 0, maybe... One day when they flip on your webcam they can see what part of the page you're looking at and you looked at it but didn't click on it But they really don't! Just like Tay all they have is what the user is giving it The algo's entire job is to find something else that will make you click it thinking you'd like it but here's the thing just like Tay we as humans

1:37:40 We get off, I mean it's physiologically proven. I don't have to dredge up what social...what scientists are saying about all kinds of pulses you get and all kinds of dopamine hits when you get something Making something pissed off whether its a person or whether its a chatbot is what we love We can't help ourselves, we're anonymous. It's kind of the ultimate game you know what's on the line? Well your job your reputation your friends your family with whatever you say it's kind of risky to go on there but you can make just like what Scaramouche was saying The whole idea is to piss the other side off

1:38:17 And so the algorithm doesn't understand, it has no clue. When someone says oh it's machine learning, bullshit! It doesn't have emotions, it doesn't understand what anger is You know? It has no idea All its doing is just you want this I'm giving more of that and giving more of that Now when this takes place to me it should be labeled like alcohol Because social networks are fine and I don't know what Gab was doing if they had an algorithm or not Doubtful. So, you know like no agenda social is just a straight-up reverse chronological order feed and there's nothing there to try and give you stuff to make you post more because you're pissed off so when this happens... And this is what Professor Ted Kaczynski said There's this over socialization that takes place and this is also part of the swearing I'm noticing more people on the left saying fuck

1:39:11 The reason why is it they need to let something out when you say fuck I mean, I can feel it. You know your pupils get dilated your pores open up There's a whole physiological thing that happens and it's a release of tension That's why they're doing it So we're so over socialized you can't say anything and then you just start yelling at each other the algo keeps Just keep spinning that up spinning it up in a certain point you pop off And you go nuts and I guarantee you we're gonna see a lot more of it. And i'm not against algorithms, We can't stop what's going on but It should at least be labeled as dangerous to your health because this is what creating the violence in real life Is the algorithm on advertising based social networks Because You don't hear someone from Reddit necessarily getting all nuts

1:40:06 You don't hear now Instagram also has an algorithm But they have designed it differently where the context is a picture and the comments sure that can be 5,000 comments of people yelling but it doesn't show up in your feed. It only shows a few It's hidden. It's much smaller. It's down below that thing as an advertisers dream That's working very well you'll hear people from Instagram going killing people now its Twitter or Facebook I'm convinced that this algorithm is bullcrap is just as stupid They don't they can't make it any better the machine doesn't know and has no incentive to give you calm Calm and collected lovely stuff. No, that's not what we want Okay, right? I think these guys are on drugs well There's a reason why Twitter limits their characters to now its 240 they don't want to give anybody too much supply

1:41:01 Well, with Facebook you can run into those long posts which you used to read. And I wish somebody would provide us with some of these posts because you're not going to go back... You know what it reminds me? Sorry to interrupt. Do you remember Snow Crash, Neil Stevenson's book about the metaverse? Yeah. And it was very analogous to today, when this came out in the 90s I think and the metaverse was this network and instead of getting on a web browser you put on your VR goggles and it was rendered and she were in there and the only people on the street were delivery for Domino's pizza because they won the franchise wars and electric hoverboards very analogous to the damn scooters we got everywhere and everyone is in these networks in these rooms but then

1:41:53 You could get too much of it and then you got this drug, actually called it was kind of a drug which was some code. And then people would actually freak out in real life in front of their screens that would either freeze or die or go do something crazy and it was called Snow Crash And I think this is what's happening in a way. People are... it's in their heads, they have nowhere to go, they can't say anything, they go over so... then just like swearing some people are susceptible oh by the way throw in some Adderall or other amphetamine or meth products you got you got a great combination here. Thanks for that enlightening analysis So death is right around the corner for everybody. We're all doomed. For everybody exactly

CHAPTER 26 / 41 Discussion

Hillary Clinton, Kara Swisher, Zuckerberg Joke

Hillary Clinton appeared with Kara Swisher at a Recode event, where she made a controversial joke about Eric Holder and Cory Booker "all looking alike." Clinton was riffing on a question about "kicking" Republicans, but the exchange included a strange comment about being "paid by Mark Zuckerberg" to make the joke. The segment highlights the awkward attempts at humor and the subtext of identity politics within elite Democratic circles.

hillary clinton· kara swisher· mark zuckerberg· cory booker· eric holder

1:42:40 Hillary Clinton. Everyone saw the video of her being racist! Do we have to talk about this? Yes, I do. And I'm not gonna say we shouldn't talk about it but...I think you and are in agreement. Well i'd like to play- If you can make it short. I just like to play it in context for everybody because that's exactly what was talking about earlier Yeah, play it. Alright so this is what she actually said and how the conversation... Wait stop we have to have some background. That's what I want to do but you want me to make it short? So I'm rushing along now! Set up set up let me set it up Hillary Clinton said to somebody casually Oh because all blacks look alike so the right wing went crazy and everybody's pointing a finger at her as being a racist hypocrite Also it was clipped

1:43:34 Out of context. That was clipped, but so we'll play the whole thing and then we'll mention that Geez you know if you're gonna have one guy on one side that's just joking clowning around constantly saying stuff like this Why don't they give Hillary the same break? She does have a sense of humor And these are two women who know each other very well They in fact just uh Was it here was that I wanted to quickie Did i oh yeah here it is This is just at the very beginning before they were started, just to give- to set the scene as to what this crowd was about and who was who was hooting and hollering in the audience. It's Kara Swisher. Okay yeah, Kara Swisher from uh...

1:44:14 I take it seriously and it's going to take a while to work through our families, and our workplaces, our societies. Yeah its hard...I have two sons and they tried to drive me off the sidewalk the other day because they own the sidewalk you know? And you found yourself on the edge right? Right! Then I shoved crap out of them As you know my theory that all men should be raised by lesbians then moved back to general population Such big men. And they're really good at sports then, okay So, you know she hates her own boys because they have penises. She said it I shove them away They gotta teach these kids these horrible little boys Well, I mean this to me was actually more in a subtly offensive way Yes, yes I agree then what Hillary said okay well let's care but here's two people who know each other they're joking and Hillary is clearly making a joke about Donald Trump

1:45:17 who would be racist and these two, they meet. They talk. They've talked before so when you hear it all in context you understand that it's a joke but she does say something weird which was... What? I was gonna say do you think they kiss Look, as far as I'm concerned she had a back brace sewn into that jacket of hers. I don't know what's going on with her and she's not getting the $10,000 makeover at Pierre's in France anymore but it's interesting what she said is a kicker to this whole joke. And and i don't want to go around insulting people

1:45:55 paint with a broad brush, every immigrant is this. Every African American is that. Every other person... Dependent? Different religious beliefs or whatever. That's childish. What do you think of Cory Booker and you didn't comment on him and feel free to- Oh I adore him! No what did you think about him saying kick them in the shins essentially start to get into that kind of political- Well it was Eric Holder. Yeah oh Eric Holder sorry. Yeah I know they all look alike. No they don't. Oh well done You know Hillary, I was paid by Mark Zuckerberg to do that. What? I was paid by Mark Zuckerberg to say that what does what does that mean? I'm wondering myself is that it's a clip but i never played it that far where that line came in Is that a Jew versus Schwarzer thing

1:46:51 Because I, to me it was like... Maybe. That could be like an anti-semitic uh... That's how i took it! The whole thing reeks of a subtext that is just gross. You have the lesbian subtext you got the man hating subtext you got the blacks or subtexts you got the jewish subtext with zuckerberg and you get the social media subtext you get these two uh subtexts i mean the whole thing stinks I was paid by Mark Zuckerberg to do that. Can I just say? No, what I want to say you've been reading Trump's tweets beautifully. Thank you. So that's the big joke is a Trump apparently doesn't see the difference between one brown guy and the other brown guy. Oh yeah sure. That's that's that's never seen before now this Zuckerberg comment isn't it because of the way she said it to me

1:47:45 Was in was an inside joke to a subgroup of people that we were not part of nope Say the least but we're not part of whatever group. That was If anybody out there can deconstruct that joke, we'd be interested. I have to be... sadly that's..I immediately thought what is this a Jew versus blacks thing which is you know another stereotypical comparison so I do think it's important to listen to you know the truth always wants to come out again just the little clip of her maybe running is much longer and she really earned

1:48:22 unveils her entire strategy and when she's going to decide which goes beyond what was clipped. And if you find it too boring we'll get rid of it but I thought it was like wow, she really is just telling everyone what she's going to do under the guise of well maybe not but it was so obvious. We're gonna talk about 2020 in a minute Do you want to run again? No Wait Now she's already thinking about herself. There's gonna be so much work to be done. I mean, we have confused everybody in the world including ourselves and We have confused our friends and our enemies They have no idea what the United States stands for what were likely to do what we think is important So the work would be worked that I feel by the way when she said I think she's also just like Almost I think she feels I shouldn't have to run I should just become the president because I've been through so much

CHAPTER 27 / 41 Discussion

Hillary Clinton 2020, 13-City Tour, Elizabeth Warren

Hillary Clinton signaled a potential 2020 presidential run during her interview with Kara Swisher, stating she feels "very well prepared" for the work required. Clinton is embarking on a 13-city tour after the midterms, which critics view as a fundraising and positioning effort. She subtly discouraged other potential candidates like Elizabeth Warren by suggesting that anyone challenging Trump will face unprecedented "vitriol" that requires a specific type of resilience.

hillary clinton· 2020 election· elizabeth warren· midterms· recode

1:47:45 Was in was an inside joke to a subgroup of people that we were not part of nope Say the least but we're not part of whatever group. That was If anybody out there can deconstruct that joke, we'd be interested. I have to be... sadly that's..I immediately thought what is this a Jew versus blacks thing which is you know another stereotypical comparison so I do think it's important to listen to you know the truth always wants to come out again just the little clip of her maybe running is much longer and she really earned

1:48:22 unveils her entire strategy and when she's going to decide which goes beyond what was clipped. And if you find it too boring we'll get rid of it but I thought it was like wow, she really is just telling everyone what she's going to do under the guise of well maybe not but it was so obvious. We're gonna talk about 2020 in a minute Do you want to run again? No Wait Now she's already thinking about herself. There's gonna be so much work to be done. I mean, we have confused everybody in the world including ourselves and We have confused our friends and our enemies They have no idea what the United States stands for what were likely to do what we think is important So the work would be worked that I feel by the way when she said I think she's also just like Almost I think she feels I shouldn't have to run I should just become the president because I've been through so much

1:49:32 That's kind of what she said. Like I want to be president, just the running part is... can we just anoint me? Very well prepared for it Don't you think there's something in there? I'm totally agreement on that thesis Okay now i'm going to back it up because now she switches from the someone to her Including ourselves and We have confused our friends and our enemies They have no idea what the United States stands for What were likely to do What we think is important So the work would be work that I feel very well prepared for, having been in the Senate for eight years. Having been a diplomat in the State Department and it's just going to be a lot of heavy lifting. Are you gonna be doing any of that lifting? Do you feel like... Oh! I have no idea Kara but I'm going to.. You know I'm not gonna even think about till we get through this November 6th election about what's going to happen after that but... Now listen to what she is saying. I am not even thinking about it

1:50:25 So she's already, she already said this guy got to do a lot of work but I'm not going to think. And before she ran in 2016 if you remember she did the same kind of song and dance long enough that collect a lot of money that she didn't have to use for the campaign which is a part of this 13 city tour they'll be doing right after the midterms yes there's money involved of course there's money involved so i'm going to do everything in my power to make sure we have a Democrat in the White House come January of 2020. So now just to reiterate, she said I'm gonna wait and see what happens during the midterm and then in other words if she's going to run but I'm going to make sure that there's a Democrat in the White House

1:51:09 We're gonna talk about your role in that a second, but who among them are you interested in? Well you know I Know everyone who's running and or thinking of running or possibly running But you know there's there's always that period between hey. That sounds like a really good idea and then trying to actually think it through, see if it is the right thing for you to do. See if you can raise the money. She's now discouraging everyone and I'm going to roll back a little bit what she saying here is that really no matter what happens but let's say the Democrats don't take

1:51:49 the house, then it's gonna be so hard. It's gonna be really rough you gotta think about your family I don't know if you can do this there is only one person who could do this who has the skin thick enough running or possibly running but you know there is always that period between hey that sounds like a really good idea and then trying to actually think it through, see if it is the right thing for you to do. See if you can raise the money all of the questions that go into it so I'm not going to handicap uh...the race before anybody actually gets into it uh...I think there I think we'd have a number

1:52:26 So she literally said I'm not going to handicap the race before anybody gets into it. So, I'm not gonna announce, I'll let some schmucks come up first so that I can tell them you're never gonna make it because I know how to do it and where the money is. A number of excellent candidates who would be really formidable on the campaign trail but lets wait and see who it is. We may have as many as 15-20 candidates and that's a big group to try to sort itself out And I'm just gonna wait and you know watch it happen. Do you have anyone in particular? See what schmuck show up? Yeah, yeah! Wait, wait... What'd she say here?

1:53:04 It's filled with gems like this. ...20 candidates and you know that that's a big group to try to sort itself out and I'm just gonna wait, and watch it happen... Do you have anyone particularly interested? No there are number of excellent potential candidates. There is no excellent potential candidate! Look, this first of all if we don't win on November 6th. I'm going to start naming names and see what you're saying. Oh okay if you want too but... Alright I will. But if we don't win on November 6 honestly I mean I know this sounds far-fetched this administration if they continue to control all branches of government and they have been stocking the courts with ideologues

1:54:04 you will find that it will be much more difficult to run. She's literally telling people, step out of the way I can do it! And people who have never had to face the fire once they get out there and they start being the target of the vitriol and hatred that comes against anybody who criticizes Trump you know that's going to cause a number of people to do a bit of soul searching. So I think we've got to give everybody who is thinking about it or even people who wake up on November 7th and kickers come oh wait yeah here's the kicker last 30 seconds and then listen, you'll like the end here come on what are you doing? Anybody who criticizes Trump

1:54:52 you know that's going to cause a number of people to do a bit of soul searching. So I think we've got to give everybody who is thinking about it or even people who wake up on November 7th and start thinking about it, we've got to give them the space to make what is a really serious calculation depending upon what the political situation... Can we talk all that individually? And then I want to get to Saudis. So she pretty much just said I know everyone really well they're all gonna have to think it real hard especially if we don't she knows that I think she sees the writing on the wall as a chance that they will not take the house so but you know that doesn't happen. If it does happen, great! But if it doesn't happen you gotta think real hard do you really want to do that? And now Kara Swisher is gonna mention some names. Warren. What? Elizabeth Warren. Oh, Elizabeth's a great... Warren what? Oh, oh, Elizabeth, yeah, she's great, yeah, she's fabulous

1:55:47 She's only thinking about herself and she is running. Of course she is! I know, but no one picks up on the subtleties it's never analyzed This is true. But I don't think it needs to be and I don't think anyone's analyzing because everyone knows she's running! What's the analyze? Well, that's true... That's true You know it's almost like beating a dead horse It's like oh she's running Wow stop the presses She was a little too happy about the AI conversation that she had with Kara Hmm.

CHAPTER 28 / 41 Discussion

Artificial Intelligence, China Social Credit, Bullet Train

Hillary Clinton expressed interest in regulating Artificial Intelligence, citing China's rapid advancement in the field. She discussed the Chinese social credit system, which uses AI to track and penalize citizens for behaviors like traveling without a ticket. A viral video from a Chinese bullet train warning passengers about social credit penalties was referenced, though some observers suspect the English-language audio in the clip may be a hoax.

artificial intelligence· china· social credit system· bullet train· beijing

1:56:32 I mean one of the things i wanted to do if i had been president was to delve deeply into what we have to do about AI. If you follow the debate between people who are quite knowledgeable about technology it's like split right down the middle there are those who think... When you think of AI, what kind of things do you think? What kinds of applications Because she's not touching, you'll see she's not talking about AI. I think AI is a crock! It will be the demise of the human race and those who think it's going to be You know the greatest breakthrough for the human race She's not really talking about AI We need to figure out which is which and are there Are their plans we should make that would try to rein in some of the AI before it is unloosed on the world Did she say unloose?

1:57:21 She said unloosed. Is that? She meant unleashed or loose, I don't know what she meant. Figure out which is which and are there plans we should make that would try to rein in some of the AI before it is unloosed on the world now other countries are moving very fast ahead China being the best example Well okay I'll kill her but let me tell you the glee that she speaks about the Chinese social network tracking and penalty and reward system. She speaks about it with great glee. Yeah, she probably would like to implement it. She really wants it! A lot of people do... And she referenced- did you see this clip of the Chinese bullet train? Which I'm not sure if it's a hoax or not Well, you don't know because we don't speak Chinese No, it's in English. Oh right, well it's 20 seconds

1:58:16 So this is on the bullet train apparently from Beijing to Shanghai and this comes on the I believe it's a hoax by the way. No, I think it's a hoax This comes on the public address system You can't hear You can barely hear it. I don't believe that's...I don't believe a word of it Yeah, so what it says is if you are caught without a ticket It'll go on your social score that can give you penalties. You may not be allowed to travel on the train and I might call in English for some reason yeah, but she refers to this clip interestingly. Yeah, she...I'm sure she's suckered by more than a few of these things

CHAPTER 29 / 41 Discussion

Jamal Khashoggi Pronunciation, Alex Jones, Joe Rogan

The pronunciation of Jamal Khashoggi's name varies significantly between media figures like Al Sharpton and world leaders like President Erdogan. In a separate media moment, Alex Jones appeared on the Joe Rogan Experience, claiming that "aliens" are present in the room. The segment includes a clip of Rogan making a "lizard sound" in response to Jones's assertions about the global elite.

jamal khashoggi· erdogan· al sharpton· alex jones· joe rogan

1:59:09 Alright, a couple of things. I do have a deconstructed clip which i just thought this is a... Well first let's do them a little change-of-pace clip First of all, I have an ISO of Erdogan pronouncing Khashoggi Okay as it turns out I have another pronunciation guide for us. Well, this is Al Sharpton's version Jamal Khashoggi And you have an ISO who's pronouncing it? Erdogan Erdogan Jamal Khashoggi well interesting because chef Clary sent his uh... I think his business partner was Arabic and here's how he pronounced it

2:00:03 So it's pretty close to everyone's version everyone sounds pretty similar. Yeah, so I'm saying Jamal cashew cheese I suggest you do all kushuji well sharpens not that far off actually Damn wait a minute. I was doing just like air to one on Jamal Kashi, Jamal Kushuji Rob pretty close Who knew we're mocking? No more mocking Shit show very nice So I'm watching this, this was from about a month ago or not quite but maybe three weeks ago when Alex Jones was on the Joe Rogan show. It's always awhile ago wasn't it? It wasn't... It was months ago. Well okay. It was months but it was within recent memory and I don't think anybody picked up on this particular little sub-segment here

2:01:00 Which is when he play as Alex Jones on the Joe Rogan show, The Alien. Who's got him? All right let me give you my best deep research approximation Are you ready? Yes! I'm gonna give you the big insha'allah that Joe there are aliens in this room right now For real? Yeah You're not of this world bro Me?! You're The Alien Oh wow I didn't know Well here's what the elite believe and let me be very clear cause the media will take us out of context I only go with what I can prove oh thank you And people can't even handle that I don't know. All i do know is that after he told him that, Brogan, I think jokingly came down to the microphone and made some sort of weird noise like a lizard would Is that in the beginning of this clip?

2:01:45 It's, no it's when he says as soon as he says it. Let me hear. He says oh you know as soon as he says and then Rogan says Oh I didn't know and then he makes that sound I don't if you can catch it. Who has got him? Alright let me give my best deep research proclamation Are you ready? Yes! I'm gonna give the big inshallah Joe there are aliens in this room right now For real Yeah your not of this world bro Me You're the alien Wow I didn't know Well here is what the elite believe And lemme be very clear cause the media will tell ya something about this Right there Is a lizard Yeah. Lizard? Yes! Yes is uncontrolled lizard sound Let's hear it again. Wait, let me be very clear because the media will tell you something. Well there goes all invites for The Joe Rogan Show Well done Joe You're not in this world bro Me? You're the alien Oh Now I do have a ISO just for the end of show possibility yes that's... You know what, you are not in this world bro Me?! You are the alien oh okay yeah There are no other ISO so I think you win it

CHAPTER 30 / 41 Discussion

Jeff Sessions, Federalist Society, Boston Heckling

Attorney General Jeff Sessions was heckled by two Methodist ministers during a Federalist Society event in Boston. The ministers called on Sessions to "repent" for his policies, citing biblical verses. Democracy Now's coverage of the event was criticized for misidentifying the church affiliations of the protesters to lend them more institutional authority than they actually possessed.

jeff sessions· federalist society· boston· democracy now· amy goodman

2:02:47 No, okay good. That's very good very good all right anyway I want to get back to this one thing where i deconstructed it This is starting to get really pathetic on democracy now and so they're running these strange stories and there was one the Federalist Society had Jeff Sessions at a Boston meeting And the Federalist Society is the one who's pretty much calling the shots on who Trump picks as a judge. Are they just like some kind of think tank? What do they do now? It's a conservative, think-tankish... Drinking club! Drinking Club exactly yeah and so he's giving a speech and two people call him out at both black ministers from the area and they play it a funny way but there's a little piece of propaganda in here which I just found

2:03:32 Just a little you made the alien sound that Joe Rogan makes no, but he did it by exhaling. Oh, that's true doing that Got me scared for second yeah, you're the alien bro then I can't even do that Sunday This is, but listen to this before. This is Sessions heckled in Boston. In Boston Massachusetts Attorney General Jeff Session was interrupted by two religious leaders at a Federalist Society event Monday where sessions with speaking about religious freedom United Methodists pastor Will Green stood up and recited biblical verse before appealing to session's directly

2:04:12 Brother Jeff, as a fellow United Methodist I call upon you to repent and to care for those in need. To remember that when you do not care for others You are wounding the body of Christ Jeff Sessions responded to the pastor by saying, thank you for those remarks and attack. A second pastor Darrell Hamilton of the First Baptist Church in Boston then stood up to speak but was booed by other attendees and quickly removed by security. Now I couldn't quite hear what the pastor was saying Oh he's just telling me as a jerk oh okay all right uh The thing here is that it's the first the first baptist church

2:04:59 of Jamaica Plains is the church that this second guy came from. But she didn't want to say the First Baptist Church of Jamaica Plains, I believe because it doesn't have hold the authority of the first Baptist Church in Boston which is what she said and its dishonest. Surprise surprise! Why do you watch that anymore? Because it's like I can get some of these great bits because she fluctuates from... It's really a dishonest show. For journalistic endeavors, it's quite remarkable so I can't keep my eyes open. Yeah, I understand. I totally understand. Meanwhile they also reported and smeared Steve King on Democracy Now with the two-parter here. Steve King is the congressman? I think he was senator from Iowa or... King isn't in New York, I thought wasn't it? No no you're thinking of Peter King Oh right okay wrong king

CHAPTER 31 / 41 Discussion

Steve King, White Supremacy, Corporate Funding

Iowa Congressman Steve King is facing backlash and the loss of corporate sponsors like Land O'Lakes and Intel following his endorsement of far-right figures. King recently met with a nationalist group in Austria and has been vocal in his support for Dutch politician Geert Wilders. Despite the controversy, King remains in a tight re-election race in a district that Donald Trump won by a large margin in 2016.

steve king· iowa· land o'lakes· intel· geert wilders

2:05:57 Yeah, different. Congress member Steve Stivers blasted Iowa congressmember Steve King on Twitter Tuesday saying Congressman Steve King's recent comments actions and retweets are completely inappropriate we must stand up against white supremacy and hate in all forms and I strongly condemn this behavior The tweet came as corporate supporters of Steve King, including Land O'Lakes and Purina Pet Care, as well as Intel said they would no longer fund King's campaigns. Congressmember King recently endorsed far-right Canadian Faith Goldie for Toronto mayor, and has amplified racist and anti-immigrant posts on social media including publishing a racist tweet in support of far right Dutch politician Geert Wilders last year. Last week it was reported King met with the neo Nazi Austrian group during an August trip that was funded by a Holocaust Memorial non profit. King later told The Washington Post if they were in America pushing the platform they push, they would be Republicans.

2:06:58 Ha ha ha! It was, you know everybody in the Austria is a Nazi I guess. Well no... So it's kind of smeared him there but he gets it little better on the second clip Until last year Congressman King displayed a Confederate battle flag on his desk and the Capitol Hill office king is up for re-election as polling just one point ahead of this Democratic challenger J.D. Scholten in a district that Trump won in 2016 by 27 percent margin Okay, it was the bet this wasn't a Confederate battle flag. It was one of those State flags right? It's like he visits the state against a flag He's got a little collection of little flags from different states This is really pathetic well this whole you know if I remember The kid I grew up with Hans

CHAPTER 32 / 41 Discussion

The Great Switch Myth, Southern Strategy, Civil Rights

Political science research from Vanderbilt University challenges the "myth" that the Republican and Democratic parties "switched" identities regarding race in the 1960s. The data shows that Republicans became competitive in the South as early as 1928 and that most Southern Democrats who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 remained Democrats for decades. The "Southern Strategy" narrative is framed as a construction by academic elites to label the GOP as the party of racists.

southern strategy· civil rights act· richard nixon· jimmy carter· vanderbilt university

2:07:49 You know, we were like nine and I said you know we see we're in contact for years and years and years now but I hadn't seen him in the flesh. And when Tina and I were in Amsterdam a year or two years ago he came out here living in Spain he came up and he said well Adam your Republican like what are talking about? I'm not Republican! Well you are! So if I hear how you speak So, you know you're probably racist. Now he's my friend so we can say that. He's gay which made it even funnier and this meme of in America Republicans are racists is very deep-rooted I mean it's been so hammered into everybody's...I don't want to spend too much time on this but we had a conversation on the last show and I said I'd like to know from the black producers mainly and we have a few luckily

2:08:38 If you were taught this magical switch back in the 60s between the Republican and Democrat party, I've tallied up, and probably got like 50 responses. Really the black responses were maybe only five but there was some Mexican in there and I'd say 95% although no one can remember it being in their history books can remember coming away from school believing that there had been some switch when the Democrats and Republicans switched and the racists sneakily went to the Republican Party Which is interesting because, you know there's well there's really this two sides. Some people say I think it might have been the politicians switched or maybe the voters switched but in general most people said yeah I think that's how it was taught

2:09:30 Did you see any of this? Anyone send you any notes? You were copied on a few. I've got a couple of notes again, undocumented... Sure! No, but these are just their own experiences so it's just completely- you're right it's undocumented but It's important for the reason that you have this block That's why Candace Owens is being pushed so hard by the Trump administration and Kanye anything they can do to break the concept for black America that they can only be saved by the Democrat Party is definitely culturally ingrained. And so removing just 5% of that, 10%, would probably really ruin the whole voting... everything for the Democrat Party and it dawned on- Yes unless they run a black person, blacks do vote as a

2:10:18 as they vote as a race. Yes, and so then all of a sudden I understood this with the phrase is so tired comprehensive immigration reform how long have we heard that? A decade 20 years? We've heard this forever and suddenly i realized what it's about! And that's from one of our producers who was Mexican who said I believed that the Republicans were racist when i came here with my parents. I have learned it's different, my parents definitely still believe Republicans are racists and if you have a population in the United States of 10 15 20 somewhere conservative estimates ten on the other side 22 million illegal aliens

2:11:05 The concept is comprehensive immigration reform can only happen, that's why there's no wall. You can only get that if you make those people legal because you do that in one fell swoop and you have 20 million Democrat voters That's why there will never be any immigration reform because that is purely the issue Well I think this has been discussed to death everyone knows this Well but maybe I'm just slow I don't think so. I think you know this too, I don't know how you do it with voting. No no i didn't realize that... It's not about new people coming in see that? I was a little confused like well they just want voters to come across the border but no one ever really talks about one law could pretty much put the Republicans out of business forever

2:11:55 It's not really discussed that way. But Republicans can get, there are younger Latino voters that vote Republican, Floridians vote Republicans and they're... Sure but of course there is also a percentage of blacks. Yeah in general the ones who moved into Arizona and California aren't going to go Democrat because they've been sold a bill of goods I do have a professor of political science from Vanderbilt University who in one fell swoop can explain the three myths of The Switch if you're interested I know it annoys you but maybe we could just round off the topic, we'll never have to revisit it. Well no, we'll be revisiting for a while because people keep writing in. My concern is how long is this clip? It's three minutes. Well, it's just worth listening too because she's like well...

2:12:46 I mean is it different than what Denise D'Souza said? Yes, yes. Okay we'll play it then. Yeah because she really explains the whole breadth and more of what you were saying than what I was saying actually Once upon a time every student of history and that meant pretty much everyone with the high school education knew this The Democratic Party was the party of slavery and Jim Crow, and the Republican Party was the party of emancipation and racial integration. Democrats were the Confederacy and Republicans were the Union. Jim Crow Democrats were dominant in the South, and socially tolerant Republicans were dominant in the North. But then... In the 1960's & 70's everything supposedly flipped! Suddenly the Republicans became the racists And the Democrats became the champions of civil rights. Fabricated by left-leaning academic elites and journalists The story went like this

2:13:45 Republicans couldn't win a national election by appealing to the better nature of the country. They could only win by appealing to the worse attributed to Richard Nixon, the media's all-purpose bad guy. This came to be known as the Southern Strategy. It was very simple win elections by winning the South and to win the South appealed to racists so that Republicans, the party of Lincoln were to now be labeled The Party Of Rednecks But this story of the two parties switching identities is a myth. In fact, it's three myths wrapped into one false narrative. Let's take a brief look at each myth in turn. Myth number 1-In order to be competitive in the South Republicans started to pander to white races in the 1960s. Fact

2:14:37 In fact, Republicans actually became competitive in the South as early as 1928 when Republican Herbert Hoover won over 47% of the South's popular vote against Democrat Al Smith. In 1952, Republican President Dwight Eisenhower won the southern states of Tennessee, Florida and Virginia And in 1956, he picked up Louisiana, Kentucky and West Virginia too. And that was after he supported the Supreme Court decision in Brown v Board of Education that desegregated public schools and after he sent the 101st Airborne to Little Rock Central High School to enforce integration

2:15:23 Myth number two, Southern Democrats angry with the Civil Rights Act of 1964 switched parties. Fact of the 21 Democratic Senators who opposed the Civil Rights Act just one became a Republican. The other 20 continued to be elected as Democrats or were replaced by other Democrats On average, those 20 seats didn't go Republican for another two and a half decades. Myth number three... Since the implementation of the Southern strategy, the Republicans have dominated the South

2:16:00 Fact, Richard Nixon the man who is often credited with creating the Southern strategy lost the Deep South in 1968. In contrast Democrat Jimmy Carter nearly swept the region in 1976 12 years after the Civil Rights Act of 1964 And in 1992, over 28 years later, Democrat Bill Clinton won Georgia, Louisiana, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky and West Virginia. The truth is Republicans didn't hold a majority of Southern congressional seats until 1994 – 30 years after the Civil Rights Act!

2:16:41 As Kevin Williamson of National Review writes, if Southern rednecks ditched the Democrats because of a civil rights law passed in 1964 it is strange that they waited until the late 1980s and early 1990's to do so. They say things move slower in the South but not that slow So I think that's a pretty good explanation Well...I'm not going to complain about the clip Yeah, I think it was pretty good. It was interesting. It did bring in a few things when she does talk about the states that voted for the Republicans during that era before they civil rights Act passed there always failed to mention Georgia and Alabama which were two states that were strong Democrat States George has since become a strong Republican state and they keep talking about it flipping back to back to blue But its red and blue right? And I'm I think the whole thing should surround studying what happened in Georgia

2:17:42 Because Georgia would be the probably this understanding the whole thing. Because why are they Republicans? According to her thesis or even mine or yours, there's no reason for it based on the thesis now She's probably her premise at the beginning is the thing that you should take note of which was as a bunch of leftists I came up with this idea and there is a strategy underway, but it's not a Republican strategy right? It's a strategy to make them look like red suckering the black community into being Democrats and not doing anything for him including But what did Obama do for the blacks nothing by the way when people voted for Obama all the whites had voted for Obama fool and I'm saying this because I am white and

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Othering, Identity Politics, Supergirl, The View

The term "othering" has emerged as a new verb in political discourse, used by figures on The View and CNN to describe the marginalization of groups. This linguistic shift is also appearing in popular culture, such as the TV show Supergirl, where "The Others" are used as an allegory for immigrants. Critics argue that "otherization" is a tool of identity politics designed to create existential enemies out of political opponents.

othering· identity politics· supergirl· the view· jake tapper

2:18:29 is that it was expected that Obama would do something for the black community specifically. He did! What? Hold on, can't believe you don't remember he got credited widely for this helping people just get by no here is everybody in Cleveland low minority got an Obama phone keep Obama in president you know he gave a phone Remember? Obama Phone The bomb-aphone, yeah. Yeah he did a lot that was great. He walked right into it. Yeah he did you're right. It's like a pie in the face now since we're on this sort of discussion I'm always looking out for these words that keep cropping up and first of all i got Jake Tapper there's just a black representative bitching and moaning about something on the Jake Tapper show and I want you to pay careful attention

2:19:27 to the usage of a specific word, which I think is going to be popular. But explain why you think it's different because there are a lot of and i really mean this-a lot of good faith people conservatives who think this is a double standard Bernie Sanders was calling for political revolution of ideas he has never incited violence He has never talked about beating up protesters he has never called anyone the enemy he had said that Wall Street should be held accountable they should go to jail for bringing America to the brink collapse but He's never incited violence. He's never othered anyone and then there were folks in our coalition that were doing that I and others, and the senator spoke up against that And so i think that's why this is different Donald Trump has had ample opportunity to check his coalition Wow! That was a double though she did a great job First she used the othered as a verb and then she said I like others She positioned herself as an othered

2:20:22 Yes, she did. And then she used the term checked his co check his coalition which is a leftist concept What does it mean? Check his coalition means you could take control of these people So this was the way that Democrats do organizing You see them, you know There's about one boss and a bunch of people to do whatever they're told And that's kind of what Trump is expected to do the same thing on the other side. Well, I agree with you wholeheartedly on this othered because let me tell you where this came up and someone has got to help me find a copy. I was just scanning through the channels the other day and I popped...I happened to bump up to Supergirl which I played a clip of Supergirl when it was like The President is not an eight-year old remember that? And I thought it was a cartoon turns out its live action actually acted and it's on The CW

2:21:14 And on the episode I saw, which i need to clip there's some aliens who have come in and they are called The Others. There is othering, they'll be othered and it was completely Trump and immigrants. No, you gotta go get that thing. Send me a copy. The whole episode was about it and it was the other... Others being others. The whole thing is yes, you're so right. Here it is on the view! Oh my goodness. You've caught onto it. Country isn't a place that's never been before because the tone is coming from the top All of a sudden it's okay to say, you know I would punch out that reporter all of a sudden It's it's okay to other eyes people and both sides. There are good people on both sides I mean we've come to a point where people we need have all kinds of versions of this

2:22:05 Do you have an otherization? I like the otherized thing. I've been otherized... I've been otherized! Yes, oh my goodness this is- That's the T-shirt idea. Or just other. The T-shirt just says other Yeah well that would work too So now we have to pay attention to this This otherize Well this is part of identity politics No kidding It's like a classic example of identity politics, is you other people and then they're your enemy. But it's better than that because now you don't have to say yours group because you're different color or religion or gender... You just other! So everybody can wear that. Everybody can wear that I'm other because i have Tourette's. I'm otherized man Don't otherwise me bro Yeah you are. Your othered

2:22:59 Good catch. I'm gonna other you good. No, it's so dumb that Doug phrases idiotic and stupid and it makes us sound dumb Well be on the lookout for producers we need more othering I'm going to show my school by donating to no agenda imagine all the people who could do that oh yeah that'd be fab All right, we do have some people to thank for show 1082 beginning with Sir Robert of the sous vide in Holland. He's in Holland. Oh no! He's gonna make baronet soon he says Angela Mackie Rutledge parts unknown in the Netherlands Let me see where is she in the Netherlands? Oh it doesn't say 121 11

CHAPTER 34 / 41 Discussion

Producer Credits, Dijon Mustard, German Grocers

Producers from Westerwald, Germany, and Gross Point, Michigan, contributed to the show, sparking a discussion about the quality of Dijon mustard in America. One producer suggested Edmund Fallot as a remedy for "flat" American mustard, while others noted that Trader Joe's (owned by the German company Aldi) offers a more authentic version. The segment concludes with birthday wishes for listeners and a call for continued support of the independent network.

dijon mustard· trader joe's· aldi· westerwald· gross point

2:23:52 Then we have a blank line. Yes, I see that too! Yeah it's a comma or not a comma but an apostrophe is the name of this person from Deutschland. A late to the party donation he or she writes greetings from Westerwald Okay, well whoever from Westerwald gave us $111.11. Hello Westervald! Here's the hoof! We want to thank you. Curtis Mason Spokane Valley Washington $111.11 so there is two leftovers from the Well Wishers Preston Thaler a hundred dollars and thirty one cents Avinash Persaud in Port St. Lucie Florida 99.99 Han Kyshers

2:24:46 In Leiden. And he wants to thanks Bas Brunix for calling him out on Thursday's show Hey, Brunix. Good work! I've been listening ever since... Never donated debt! Dedoosh time! You've been dedooshed! Yay yay yay today today! Brunix used to send a lot of art in and he gave up Well it's... We were picking it once in awhile It's taxing man, it's taxing It is a lotta work Warren Detweiler in Gross Point Michigan 8008 What does he say? Hear anything interesting

2:25:23 Yeah, he does say something. He does I guess something I gotta read yeah so I got a couple notes on this Well that's too long and I want to play that you can stop this but then he has long notes on mustard ladies and gentlemen here is the other man I understand your pain about the lack of real Dijon mustard in the United States, but have a remedy. Edmund Fallott which I've had their mustards. I haven't ordered it directly from Amazon Prime is the real deal and put it on everything." Okay. I got another note someone saying that the trader Joe... And let me express my complaint. It was on his show or two ago. Yes that all Dijon mustard in America is… Flat. Is rancid.

2:26:13 No, it's not rancid. It's flat oil and it's to be rancid. It's flat. It loses its oomph and when you go to France and have Dijon or you bring a bottle over, it's good for a couple of weeks and then it starts going flat even with...it should be refrigerated and shorten the length of time before it goes flat because Dijon mustard is almost like wasabi when it's fresh. Wasabi! And he goes right through the nose as dynamite stuff It's all flat, there's nothing. It's like eating grape coupons American style as opposed to the French one they ship into Canada so I bitched about this and he has got this one solution which I'll check out because I know this brand but I've never had it this way and then somebody else says that Trader Joe's branded Dijon and Trader Joe's is a German grocery store chain

2:27:04 ALDI. Wasn't it Aldi? Yes, yes but it's a split off. Yeah the two brothers they had an argument one wanted to sell cigarettes the other one didn't so they split the company yeah and then they bought Trader Joe's years ago and became this German company so its got a lot of characteristics so it is possible that the Dijon, I haven't done it yet but i'm gonna go there and buy some so I'll catch up to this. And because everyone's on pins and needles. Yes we can't wait you know... Can you taste that mustard? So you know these Smothers Brothers yeah The Others Brothers Hey. That's us baby. Carolyn Blaney in Toronto Ontario 6969

2:27:53 Dvorak movie reviews, please. They are spot on. Sir Chris James in Sturgis Michigan 6006. Yeah small boob Jeffrey Sewell in San Jose California did I see you at the meetup 5678 Robert Bruckner 5555 parts unknown and the following people are $50 donors name and location if available William Cameron in Charlotte, North Carolina. Tyler Schimpf in Bothell Washington Jeremy Cartwright and Rockford Illinois and short list Watson in Raleigh North Carolina that concludes our group of producers for show 1082 I want to thank each and every one of them And the ones who gave lesser amounts for helping yeah The list was only 74 K as in kilobytes

2:28:38 Yes, you're like when you see that file come in your heart sinks Only 50 K 70 70 kilobytes. Okay, but we are so grateful for the producers who are producing this show in the way that producers do. Really, thank you very much we learned so much from you I mean where else can you have a... does NPR when they do their donor drives to they talk about Dijon mustard? No! Or do they? They don't. No, they give away tote bags We give you something worthwhile But more importantly this is what makes the network work All the people who keep saying You keep me sane or because we're making jokes Whatever it is whatever sauce we have It seems to work I'm very proud of it and so should all you producers Also those that donated under $50 Many for reasons of anonymity And others on our subscriptions Please take a look at those And you can do that at Dvorak dot org

2:29:39 Slash N A Multiple Karmas Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. Well short donations also short on the birthday list but we do have two sir Jason Zeisler says happy birthday to his brother Joe Zeisler turns 38 tomorrow and Carolyn Blaney says happy birthday to John Fletcher. Wait a minute, Fletch? Is it the Fletches' birthday 35 today and as third Sir Chris the Drunken Minstrel says happy birthday to his son Felix who turned 29 or two turn he'll think that's funny who turned nine years old on the 29th of October we say happy birthday to all these people from The Best Podcast in the Universe

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Knighting Ceremony, Sir Cabral, Sir Finch

In a formal knighting ceremony, Jose Cabral was dubbed "Sir Cabral of Masarik Town" for his aggregate contributions of over $1,000. Additionally, Sir Finch Nasty requested to shorten his title to "Sir Finch." These titles are recorded in the No Agenda Peerage, recognizing the significant financial support provided by these "Knights of the Round Table" to the program's operations.

knighting· sir cabral· sir finch· masarik town· peerage

2:30:35 We have we have a nighting. We'll have a nighting that's why I got my sword here Careful don't put an eye out with that thing sir Finch nasty Step on it waited, I'm sorry Jose Cabral That's who we have sir Finch in the minute Jose Crabauld come on up to the podium here At the round table of the NOA Agenda Knights and Dames, this is our sacred ceremony where thanks to your contributions of $1,000 or more in aggregate to The NOA Agenda Show we proudly pronounce the Sir Cabral of Myers

2:31:12 Ma-ha, Masarikitown. For you we have Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay Steel Reserves and Black Miles We got Pinball & Power Currents, Press Milk & Pablum, Ginger Ale & Gerbils Bong Hits & Bourbon And... Mutton & Mead Let me take that name again Sir Cabral of Masarik Town Am I saying that correctly? Correctly? Masarik town. There's a K in there, and it is odd Well he'll let us know if that is incorrect will gladly correct the record So there's Sir Finch Nasty who wanted to shorten his title to Sir Finch and we're perfectly fine with that. I'm sure that will be reflected in all of our peerage maps you can find it at ITM dot IM slash Peerage and thank you again, Sir Finch Nasty, Sir Cabral and our birthday list

CHAPTER 36 / 41 Discussion

Statistics Canada, Banking Data, Privacy Concerns

Statistics Canada is facing criticism for a project that involves collecting the personal financial data of 500,000 Canadians from banks without their explicit consent. The government maintains the data will be anonymized and used for policy evidence, but the opposition argues this is an unprecedented intrusion into private lives. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau defended the move by contrasting it with the previous Conservative government's cancellation of the long-form census.

statistics canada· privacy commissioner· banking data· justin trudeau· canada

2:32:11 Thank you for supporting the no agenda show best podcast in the universe another one for you on Sunday twice a week now Twice a week I heard that Let's see. I've got to do have something left here other what did I have? Yeah, that can keep I Have a can't a Candanavian clip which I desperately want to talk about or at least play as there's some controversy going on and And this is about the census, the Canadian Census. And they need to have data on everybody we have it here in the United States as well and there's always questions about what form what's on the long form you have to say what race you are near what other races that should be there it's always a big argument. There's always something!

2:33:06 The Canadavians, you know they've just taken it one step further. StatCan which is Canada's statistical organization of the government I believe its a government organization Statistics Canada could be wrong about that too They decided there's a better way to get some real census on our northern neighbors Mr. Speaker, our government is ensuring that the personal data of Canadians are protected Statistics Canada will use the anonymized data for statistical purposes only No personal information will be made public I understand Statistics Canada is actively engaged with the Privacy Commissioner's office on this project

2:33:47 and is working with them to ensure Canadians' banking information remains protected and private. I'm just going to give a little context, what they are going to do is they're taking a sample of 500 000 Canadians and they are telling the banks that want all their information all their purchase information it will be anonymized of course And you can imagine there's some issue with this High quality and timely data are critical to ensuring that government programs remain relevant and effective for Canadians. The Honourable Opposition House Leader Mr. Speaker, the Liberal Government plans to access the personal financial information of Canadians without their knowledge or consent Personal information like bill payments online purchases credit card transactions cash withdrawals and deposits

2:34:35 even e-transfers between family members, and the list goes on. Will the Prime Minister do the right thing and immediately assure Canadians that this intrusion into their lives will be stopped? Mr. Speaker, Canadians rightly expect that government agencies and groups like Statistics Canada work with the Privacy Commissioner to ensure that their private lives are protected but Mr. Speaker, need I remind you and all Canadians that it was a Conservative government that chose to stop the long-form census, to cancel the long form census as a way of protecting people's private information. What that led to was more policy based on ideology and less policy based on evidence like we are doing now their attacks on data and information continue. Shut up! Shut up slave! We'll do whatever we want

2:35:32 That's pretty much that what could possibly go wrong with that. We need to cover more Canadian stuff in the next I get notes from from new newer Canadian listeners and like, hey really love the show of the litany talk about Canada you're pretty ill informed. Yes Absolutely, we're ill-informed. We need as much help as we can get yep well Canada stuff Yes, not that ill informed no but I look I have I can't Refuse kid run in the country. We know that much and refute can't refute some kids running the country Oh Anne Hathaway Got an award at the Human Rights Council

CHAPTER 37 / 41 Discussion

Anne Hathaway, Human Rights Campaign, Orbiting Myth

Actress Anne Hathaway received an award from the Human Rights Campaign, where she delivered a speech about "destroying the myth" of straightness and whiteness. Hathaway claimed that "gayness orbits around straightness" and "races orbit around whiteness," a metaphor that left some observers confused. The speech is cited as an example of high-level virtue signaling and the promotion of identity politics by wealthy celebrities.

anne hathaway· human rights campaign· lgbtq· cisgender· identity politics

2:36:13 For what? Well, you have to know what the Human Rights Council is. They really only do one thing and that is support LGBTQ issues That's all that they do And they do about 45 million dollars a year and they're lobbying 501c4 And so they gave her an award and so the whole, I'm pretty sure it was in California. The whole room is that... First of all Anne Hathaway she's massively wealthy. Her career is unreal if you see from a kid she's done she's been so many huge hit movies but she's acting all the time this thing on this podium was just an act and I just had two clips because it was like wow kind of a head shaker

2:37:04 Of what she's saying. So she's virtue signaling, as far as I know she is not gay or transgendered or anything She does talk about that but the whole audience is officially LGBTQIAPK people and she won the award and she wants to say hi to everybody first of all Alright let's get started ladies Ladies, gentlemen, gentle them. I've never heard gentle them. I think it's on the list. It's a whole new category of selves they it's the pronoun for people who are pronounced thing like there's more than two of them.

2:38:05 Group call out. There's a little guide to this with about maybe 20 of these well, then she actually does my jeez and all these other Well she does my incorrectly she does my my list Thank you for this tremendous honor What I love most about this community is the way you own the alphabet She forgot the K and left out the K, and she forgot a B for bi curious although just this discriminate against them

2:38:53 It is important to acknowledge that... Sorry, so now she's going to explain to us as a very wealthy very successful acting straight white woman. She's going to explain to us what's wrong with society! it is important to acknowledge that with the exception of being a cisgender male everything about how I was born has put me at the current center of a damaging and and widely accepted myth. A myth! This is the show of myths, John. There's another myth. The myth is that gayness orbits around straightness, transgender orbits around cisgender and that all races orbit around whiteness. What? Listen to that

2:39:56 We clearly do not understand because this audience gets it whatever she just said. This myth is wrong, but this myth is too real for too many So gayness orbits cisgender and trans orbits... I forgot already It's ancient so it is trusted It is a habit so its assumed to be the way things are It's inherited, so it is thought immutable. Its consequences are dangerous because it prioritizes a certain type of love... ...a certain kind of body, a certain kind of skin color and does not value in the same way anything that deems to be other to itself. Other! There is myth that has been with us from birth and there is myth

2:40:55 That keeps money and power in the hands of the few instead of being invested in a lives of the free I Appreciate this community. He's crying so much I appreciate this community because together we are not just going to question this myth We are going to destroy it I would say we're pretty damn gay friendly on this show and other friendly.

2:41:36 Other but I really would like to understand what this orbiting thing is. It was clearly written for her, I just don't understand it and then to say that this keeps money away from the people who need to be free they're sitting on 45 million dollars a year which they give to politicians and other lobbying lobbyist groups yeah let's get our act together she says the benefits of the few and doesn't benefit the lives of the many is where it should have been, but she says the lives of the free. Yes! Maybe she blew that line up? It's possible but I did... The whole thing was like since why when does gay circle cisgeneral understand what it means Like its less than because it's an orbit And we're the... and uh... This is of course whitey white man old white man Whitey white... I even saw in the troll room someone say it's hard to convince old white guys

2:42:28 That's fine. You know, cuz it here's the good news ageist But it doesn't faze me does a bug you doesn't bug me Does it create any hang in your system when you hear that? I like to bitch about it Yeah, but it's not like I'm shocked or and I'm always like well, I'm not shocked by too much I mean this show is a stabilizing influence on my sanity Like finally we're hated We're going to be the other. Get used to it, get used this word. We're being otherized. Let's back off and take one more look at an earlier assertion of this show. What are the Democrats thinking? The United States is 72% self-described whites. Yes That includes white Latinos

2:43:21 Why are you trying to offend 72% of the voting public and think you're going to win a lot of elections? And then, going even further by promoting a socialist agenda which is designed just to take money away from people. I mean, it's just baffling to me what they're thinking. And there are a lot of them thinking that way and I feel bad... A lot of whites! You got your Bill Mahers you got people on that panel all hating on whitey but... and Anne Hathaway take a look in the mirror lady! You're a white woman! Whaaaaat? Dogs or people too? Finally we've got it

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Climate Change, Pet Ownership, Dog Carbon Footprint

A study published in PLOS One by the University of Sydney suggests that pet ownership, particularly in the United States, has a significant environmental cost. With 163 million companion animals, the meat-heavy diet of pets is framed as a major contributor to climate change. Some critics jokingly suggest that "killing all the dogs" is the logical conclusion of extreme climate policy, comparing it to the now-defunct "peak oil" narrative.

climate change· pet ownership· university of sydney· carbon footprint· dogs

2:44:04 A study in PLOS, I think that's a real journal isn't it? Real scientific journal. I've never heard of it. PLOS 1 well we've read things from there a lot anyway that's where this study is published It is a study from University of Sydney And here it is, I'll give you the abstract. The results of the study show that human compulsion to seek out animal companionship is one of the primary factors affecting our climate particularly in the United States where there are 163 million companion animals roughly one pet for every two Americans the highest number of any country in the world

2:44:50 and the climate cost of this, mainly. Because, Americans are the largest pet owners in the world but the tradition of pet ownership in the US has considerable costs. As pet ownership increases in some developing countries especially China and trends continue in pet food toward higher content and quality of meat globally Pet ownership will compound the environmental impacts of human dietary choices Yes indeed! The number one thing we can do right away To combat climate change, to stay below that 1.5 degrees before 2030 is kill all the dogs! Dog haters! They finally emerged we were waiting for this and this is great

2:45:38 Because you could make someone's head... Now if it was a dog, that dog is actually causing climate change. This is the equivalent of fractal as it were to bring that thing back in. If your old thing about blowing people's minds by telling them in a climate change argument do you believe in peak oil? Yeah exactly no you don't have to worry about it because we'll run out of oil. But of course they had to kill the peak oil meme Completely. When's the last time you heard the term? Except right this second, so now they got this to deal with well that kind of fits in with the world wildlife, the WWF report about all it by the way, this report I and this is pushing toward a 2020 big meet up that has something to do with the Paris Accords. Of course. And of course its good 2020 match we gotta get these back in play so don't vote for Trump This what its really about but

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World Wildlife Fund, Species Extinction, Mike Bennett

The World Wildlife Fund (WWF) released a report claiming that human activity has wiped out 60% of mammals, birds, fish, and reptiles since 1970. Mike Bennett, the executive director of science at WWF, called for world leaders to "step up" and take ownership of the problem. Skeptics view these recurring "damning reports" as fundraising tools designed to pressure governments for more environmental spending.

world wildlife fund· wwf· mike bennett· extinction· climate change

2:46:34 I have been hearing about this forever, since the 70s. Oh yeah of course! We know that. I got a clip. Oh i'm sorry uh... WWF report. Ah my mistake In environmental news humans have annihilated wildlife over the past half century threatening life on earth as we know it that's according to a damning new report by WWF The World Wildlife Fund The report finds human activity since 1970 is responsible for wiping out Sixty percent of mammals, birds, fish and reptiles with the remaining animals threatened by a degraded overexploited environment and the effects of climate change. This is Mike Bennett, executive director of science and conservation at World Wildlife Fund

2:47:20 What we need now is for heads of state to step up and take ownership of this problem and show real leadership That's what step-up means Give us some dough man. Give us money step it up, bro So my last clip, how are we doing? Yeah. We're just time to go. Okay the last one then yeah or you can have it No, no you go you go so it looks like the Weinstein Trial is falling apart Oh, I mean the guy's ruined but they are gonna put he's not going in jail was what you're saying Yeah It's falling apart and so here all I got this was like one of those

CHAPTER 40 / 41 Discussion

Harvey Weinstein Trial, Perjury Allegations, Manhattan DA

The criminal case against Harvey Weinstein is reportedly faltering after allegations that a key witness, Lucia Evans, committed perjury before the grand jury. Weinstein's attorney argued that the prosecution was rushed due to political pressure and that the case is "not what it was cracked up to be." While the DA's office has abandoned some claims, they maintain that the decision does not reflect on Weinstein's overall innocence or guilt.

harvey weinstein· lucia evans· manhattan da· perjury· sexual assault

2:48:01 Clips that just is floating around it was CNBC and or whatever the network version They just play stuff rent, you know Just like RT does this is what Weinstein's attorney? Just talking to them to the mic and then the defense attorney of the woman And this it's not really enlightening or anything. It's just a nice little short summary clip This is not about victim shaming and this is not about suggesting that a woman who comes forward should not be believed absent proof. This is about proof that a witness who came forward committed perjury in the grand jury and what happened here is Harvey Weinstein was so vilified that he was considered to be low-hanging fruit you just indict him and you worry about convicting them later, and what's happened now I'm drilling down on some of these allegations and the district attorney's office is drilling down on these allegations

2:48:57 This case is not what it was cracked up to be. I want to be very clear that the prosecution's decision to abandon my clients' claims does not invalidate the truth of her claims It does speak to a system desperately in need of reform The DA threw away Lucia's claims, but this says nothing about Weinstein's innocence. Nor does it reflect on Lucia's consistent allegation that she was sexually assaulted with force by Harvey Weinstein It only speaks volumes about the Manhattan DAs office and its mishandling of my client's case Yeah he's walking He's gonna walk totally

2:49:44 Sad, sad really because you know there is some reality to what's going on but mis-abused really. Abused for political gain, abused for ratings and obfuscated for the exact same reasons. It's a political football these women are being other'd They are othered. By the way, I have-I have the peak oil of the dogs It's actually for myself. I don't have to worry because here's what's gonna happen as climate change makes temperatures warmer crops fail We have a global food shortage we start eating the dogs and cats fixes climate change Dynamite right? Yeah, well i'm all in Dinner at my place! I'm not a dog hater by the way. I actually like dogs

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Outro, Train Updates, Cybernetic Mix

The show concludes with a final update on California trains and a sign-off from Austin and Northern Silicon Valley. The hosts remind listeners to support the "Value for Value" network and propagate the formula of news deconstruction. The episode ends with a high-energy "cybernetic" music mix featuring themes of data, power, and the digital landscape.

austin· silicon valley· fomer· adios mofos· cyberspace

2:50:36 But yeah exactly That's our show everybody. We will be back on Sunday with another Deconstructive episode for you and remember us To support our value for value network and our entire value for value methodology at Dvorak.org slash NA, noagendashow.com is where you can find the latest show and links to the show notes in the archives in the search and everything... And coming to you from downtown Austin Texas capital of the drone star state FEMA region 6 on the governmental maps in the 5 by 9 Cluedio in the common law condo In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley

2:51:14 Where I got to see by the way, the coastal went by which is another big train and it had a little attachment on the end but it was like a cheapie. Like some cheap little thing some guy had rented Anyway, I'm John C. Dvorak that's your update on the trains That's right! It's FOMER AND THE CRACKPOT everybody! Wooo! Until Sunday Adios Mofos! Ready to rock

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2:53:01 free speed, pre-approved, prepacked, no stingy, free stride and I'm hanging in there ain't no doubt and i'm hanging tough over and out Oh

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