Episode 1080 · Thursday, 25 October 2018

11 years

A decade of media deconstruction culminates in a look at the Austin water crisis, the Khashoggi investigation, and the rhetorical shift of the American nationalist movement.

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Austin Mayor Steve Adler faces mounting criticism as a citywide mandatory water boil notice enters its fourth day following historic flooding. The crisis, which has shuttered restaurants and disrupted the local economy, stems from silt-clogged purification systems in Lake Austin. Meanwhile, the FBI laboratory in Quantico is deconstructing crude PVC pipe bombs intercepted by the Secret Service before reaching high-profile targets including former CIA Director John Brennan and various Democratic leaders.

President Donald Trump explicitly identified as a nationalist during a Houston campaign rally, sparking a media firestorm that saw MSNBC commentators compare the term to historical dictators and racial slurs. In the Middle East, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is leveraging the forensic investigation into the death of Jamal Khashoggi to demand the extradition of Saudi operatives. Dutch MEP Marietje Schaake and German Chancellor Angela Merkel have responded by calling for an EU-wide arms embargo against Saudi Arabia, while CIA Director Gina Haspel reviewed alleged audio recordings of the incident in Turkey.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak celebrate eleven years of the value-for-value model, reflecting on the show's evolution from a short segment to a global media critique powerhouse. The hosts perform a formal knighting ceremony for producers Troy Thomas and Melody Fugazotto while debating the finer points of Iranian rice preparation versus Italian risotto techniques. The broadcast concludes with a look at Tim Cook’s recent Brussels speech targeting the data industrial complex and the weaponization of personal information.


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CHAPTER 01 / 43 Discussion

No Agenda Eleventh Anniversary, Show Evolution

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak celebrate the eleventh anniversary of the No Agenda show, reflecting on its growth from a twenty-minute program to a three-hour twice-weekly broadcast. The hosts acknowledge the long-term support of their producers and mention a recent discussion on the Grimerica show regarding the podcast's evolution.

adam curry· john c dvorak· eleventh anniversary· grimerica· media deconstruction

00:00 You've exceeded your bandwidth. Celebrating 11 years together and we never had a fight! And broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in downtown Austin, Tejas. In the Cluedio in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where there's one thing I won't be doing for Halloween and that's wearing blackface...I'm John C DeVore. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! In The Morning! Aw disappointing your annual moment to shine

00:41 What do they normally do? Well, you normally put on blackface for Halloween. I can't believe you're not gonna do that this year. There goes the Zephyr right on time! Here we are everybody! 11 years of the best podcast in the universe Congratulations Congratulations, John. That's fantastic! Congratulations to everybody who has worked on this show and that's pretty much everybody We still have a lot of number with people who started listening to the show from the beginning Oh quite a few Yeah more than there should be Then they're still alive which is the cool thing The producers of this show we don't have listeners we have producers This is your celebration

01:31 You have done this you have taken us from a 20-minute show with no jingles. No nonsense, no commercials No agenda to three hours twice a week on Thursday filled with media deconstruction That's quite a path we've taken yes We didn't start off that way that's for sure and I have to say John this was discussed I should mention on the Grimerica show I Haven't heard it yet You discussed what? The evolution of the NO Agenda show. Yeah, and what was the conclusion that we started with number one and were at 1080. And I today am so happy John more now than ever in our 11 year history that you're the one that opens up all the mail! Just want to say it and i continue to be appreciative of you doing that

CHAPTER 02 / 43 Discussion

Austin Water Crisis, Mandatory Boil Notice

Austin, Texas, implemented a mandatory water boil notice following heavy rains and flooding that caused silt to clog water purification systems. Mayor Steve Adler faced criticism for the city's handling of the crisis, which resulted in restaurant closures and economic disruption. Speculation suggests that the introduction of grass carp into Lake Austin may have removed vegetation that previously filtered silt during flood events.

austin· mayor adler· water boil notice· silt· coliform· lake austin

02:23 So you have some story to tell your mails not coming through no, no. No we have been since Monday the entire city of Austin and Austin proper with many of the outlying areas have been under a mandatory Water boil. Oh yeah your warness? Yeah, but that's not that's a little more impactful than you'd first think But yeah, but the likes of you just drink Perrier with Grey Poupon. Yeah it's not so much about me... It's about what the economic impact to the city is quite severe. Monday night, so it happened Monday at the afternoon they put the which means that you cannot drink the water, you can't use for cooking, you can't use it for washing produce

03:12 There's also a ban on, you know... there is also water conservation regulations in place. And we went out to dinner with Ellen and Jesse, Tina's daughter who lives in Austin and her boyfriend And already, Monday night at... it was just a small restaurant on the east side. There was stuff that you could not get. So we can't do anything with vegetables so here's what we have on the menu. There are many restaurants closed now, just closed! You can't wash their vegetables? Yeah, you can't cook. And you can take the risk because this is a contamination risk that someone gets sick in your restaurant or would just get sick in your restaurant whether it was your fault or not no one can take that risk so they're just shutting it down people have no paychecks and there's no Starbucks! Beer... Look at as a benefit

04:05 But here's the problem, our mayor, Mayor Adler is a douchebag. He was already on my crap list for just letting scooters drive on the sidewalk, homeless people sleeping everywhere But something went wrong and they're not telling us the whole story because no point has anyone said your water is unsafe. No Because they opened up the The dams because of the water it's been raining here for the past two weeks This is not the first time that they've opened up the dams and yes, this is a lower color right there a lot Yes It's not the first time this has happened so something went wrong And apparently all this silt clogged up the works

04:47 And from what I understand now, although no one has admitted that you press conferences and we have no press in Austin. I guess the Austin Statesman was bought by some whatever outfit... There's no one reporting on anything! Just people rewriting press releases there is NO reporting in Austin There was a pressure issue. That's the only thing they said and that's why we have mandatory water boil what I understand now from not from Austin officials or any reporting here is Perhaps we had an influx of silt which clogged up the works They lost pressure if the pipes go below, I think it's 20 pounds per square inches

05:30 And it backs up. Then, well worse than the even little cracks somewhere in the along the line contamination could come in I guess its coliform and that... Yeah, coliform is bad actually You know about this stuff right? you've worked in areas about this haven't ya Yes Okay But coliform is not really the problem Coliform is the aspect of the test mechanism. In other words, if you have coliform that means you've got problems right but it's not like you're gonna die from coliform poisoning okay but if you have coliform that means there's sewage in them in the line. Oh poop yes well pretty much see they're not telling us what happened and last year 2017

06:19 the citizens of Austin elected for a three hundred and eleven million dollar bond to Create this fourth water plant, which is really only our second because they closed too. It's supposed to do 100 million gallons a day by itself and Everything's failing we're oh We're using more water than were producing the silt has clogged everything up What is silt exactly? And how does it since when does it clog up stuff I Well, you know what silt is. Not really. Is it just like deposits? Like sandy salty deposits on the bottom? It's the fine particles of dirt and that can make forms like a... makes very nice mud

07:00 And when it accumulates, it becomes a muddy like substance which is because of silt. Yeah and that could then clog up the water purification? I don't know if that can, but yes it can. These people wouldn't be buffaloing you… They keep talking about silt! Probably, I would guess...I don't know. They're probably Democrats which means that they are extremely honest people. Yeah! They're very honest and they have an election coming up in 12 days But here's one theory that I'll just throw out there because i thought it was kind of interesting, because in the past couple of months when I've been learning how to wake surf with a former New York banker in Lake Austin. I noticed we used have all kinds of green stuff

07:50 in the water and you'd be in the water and like, what's that against my leg? I'm not a...I don't like that in general. So it was a lot. It was a lot. I remember two or three years ago is just tons of this stuff everywhere and always clogging up engines and all kinds of stuff happening because it's just not a nice thing and people swim and waterski there etc so the geniuses came up with the idea of stocking Lake Austin with grass carp And the last time I went wake surfing, I remember saying wow there's none of this stuff in the water anymore and... Yeah, we were a bit by a fish. No We were we were at the pier having a beer and some kids were throwing like french fries in the water and these enormous carp Which turns out of them researching it about 40 50 pounds these things weigh they've eaten everything They've eaten all the green they've eaten all the other fish That's all that's left And I think maybe when they open the foot the dam this water just rushed through

08:49 Lake Austin, there's nothing left to stop the silt or whatever they expected and it just you know expand just blew everything downstream. Maybe that's what happened but at any rate we're gonna be under this boil watch until the weekend may be longer It could be a full week Could be a month Yeah! This is Austin man this is not some shithole country yeah you're not in Senegal But were getting... No But now that you mentioned there could be poop in the water, we're getting closer to San Francisco. We got everything! We got the homeless, we've got this electric scooters... You have poop in your water? Got poop in your water. Fantastic! Woohoo! That's exactly what coliform testing would indicate. Yeah and no one is questioning anything. All you hear are jokes

09:37 We were doing him here. Well, like you just said ha-ha-ha you just drink Perrier all day You'd be amazed how often you interact with water on a daily basis and what the automatic movements you have of I'll just splash some water in your drink a little from my hand after brushing my teeth oops There's a lot of different and how do that anyway? Well, I'm just saying there's a lot of different ways you interact with water. And it's like damn I appreciate it a little bit more though Well, this just sounds like a disaster. It's an economic disaster for sure they said yesterday if it doesn't rain we may be able to lift the ban at the beginning of the weekend it rained all day yesterday so its gonna go through the weekend! Its going into next week I don't know

10:31 I'd like to know what, just like a valve is stuck open or something. Something went wrong and they're not admitting it that's the only...I mean this has happened before? You got no media there anymore so what are you gonna do you never find out that probably the news guys on television don't have enough oomph to be able to find out what's going on and nobody's got any technical expertise. All they have to do is find some sewage treatment guy who was an engineer Who knows, because they gossip amongst themselves like every industry does. And they tell you what's happening but they can't even find one of those guys I guess? We must have one in the audience! Oh we have several who I've been tweeting with and that's how i understood the pressure issue because that was one line in some interview somewhere where a guy said well we got a pressure issue and then I understood okay so there's real contamination danger if you have a pressure issue

11:24 And at the same time, it's also just conserve water because something is broken somewhere along the line. Something went wrong... It just not did anyway So yes we drink Perrier and champagne all day! We don't care about the water crisis but there's no restaurants are closing Restaurants bars how about you know? We have craft breweries forget about it They can't brew their beer All that stuff has closed Well they still have beer in the tank Yeah but that'll be gone Yes, it will ship in your water. Yeah from France anyway So it's interesting living under this disaster finally something bad happened really bad yeah I've heard I was reading about I was hoping you'd had some information you got nothing well No, I got you what? I think is going on which is more than what they're reporting here and no one's interested This just no one's interested John they don't care. You know got my bottle because not Trump's fault

12:27 Not yet not yet. I'm working on it. I wouldn't put it past mayor Adler to come up with something like that all right, but I was again You're still tweeting a lot more than you used to which is pretty entertaining as you show up in my feet a lot Yeah, and I need more followers You got plenty of followers. I only got none Are you okay, man? It's hard when you lose a gig sometimes and kind of fall into a black hole Yeah, i'm fine Okay, um... I'm fine man! I'm okay just leave me alone. I don't want to talk about it. You tweeted that the caravan was the biggest story at the moment

CHAPTER 03 / 43 Discussion

Twitter Interaction, Muting and Blocking Strategies

A discussion regarding social media habits highlights the utility of the "mute conversation" feature on Twitter to avoid unproductive arguments. Strategies for managing followers and dealing with low-engagement accounts are examined, noting the psychological impact of maintaining a high follower count.

twitter· social media· muting· blocking· jack dorsey

13:09 Yeah, and all a bunch of weirdos. There's a lot of weirdos on Twitter I'm probably gonna have to quit it eventually because the number of guys that are like yeah, fuck that crap And you look at this guy with one follower He obviously just joined last week And maybe he's got 50 accounts and the one followers this year they follow each other. Yeah, yeah And it's like they're just in there to make Commentary that is useless and his doesn't help and also if you want more followers by their way being on Twitter a lot You're right I probably tweet of third morning used to and I'm blocking X10x more than I was just gonna say if you want followers quit blocking people I'm blogging like a madman

13:53 Okay, it's not healthy. You know this right? Is you know that Twitter can become a little unhealthy activity I don't know that okay well you should listen to the OTG segment By the way here is the dilemma So you got some jerk off, he says something stupid. And you go and look at him, I'm not gonna respond to the guy's got two followers and he just joined last week, he's got a picture of Farrah Fawcett as his image. As an avatar? Yeah so I'm looking and then I think follows you! And I was thinking jeez if I block this guy lose another follower So I mute him. Oh, mute? Yes that's the way to go you because the follower number is very important to you does that keep your checkmark status does Jack send you an email from time to time and say hey keep your good word keep your numbers there otherwise we'll take away a check mark. The yeah... The other thing is I didn't notice this because I've been muting You can mute entire conversation says mute conversation

14:52 You get these arguments going bad and the worst part is you're in an argument where you're not even in the argument, you just CC'd. I don't want to be listening to these two guys going at each other! You can hit mute conversation takes the whole thing off your stream. It's fantastic. What a discovery Yeah! I'm learning a lot Yes, I can tell So I think that big news actually isn't the caravan but it's the speed I'm very confused by this because they seem to sometimes move 500 miles a day according to news reports and the same recycled drone footage of the bridge and all these tight shots, tight shots of people sitting down. And that's when they're interviewed because apparently then they're not moving. They just hang it out. This reeks of Wag The Dog type television production

CHAPTER 04 / 43 Discussion

Migrant Caravan, Media Production and Political Timing

The migrant caravan moving through Mexico is analyzed as a potential media production with professional elements, noting the repetitive use of specific drone footage. Speculation arises regarding the timing of the caravan's movement in relation to the U.S. midterm elections and its utility as a political talking point for both parties.

migrant caravan· jorge ramos· univision· gop· political strategy

15:48 with some professional elements, but otherwise who the hell knows what I'm looking at? It doesn't look like a caravan. I mean, I don't know it could be stock footage from Europe for all i know! I really don't know what this is The only person I've seen on site in the tightest shot ever was Jorge Ramos from Univision He did CNN and he did... I think he did Frat Boy Tucker We need a nickname for him. That's the only one I could come up with. Frat Boy Tucker? Frat Boy Tucker! I like that nickname. Yeah, Frat Boy Tucker He looks totally like a frat boy By the way... I saw an interview he did in- because he is promoting his book. He did an interview with Adam Carolla

16:29 And if you can find this, it's pretty easy to YouTube. I have to say first of all...I've never been a fan of Adam Carolla. I like him very much and thought he was very funny and very astute very intelligent in this interview Tucker on the other hand frat boy Tucker He reminds me of Christopher Buckley. You know Christopher Buckley was married to my cousin Lucy That's William F Buckley Jr.'s son Yeah. And this was the guy who famously said, oh you with your internet no one's going to want to read the news on their computer! Another insightful observation from the Buckley family and he later late 20 years later said well you were right about that

17:12 But that's exactly it. Fred Boyd Tucker has this... It's a milieu thing from Washington, and he is very likable but it's this milieu thing where within three sentences always like, And thats the meaning of life! Come on its easy don't you understand? Everyone sees us! It always ends that way and like he has figured it all out and just the other people don't know what it is yet. And really as apparent in this interview so thats worth watching anyway What was I talking about? Oh yes, we're talking about Jorge Ramos. Let me finish with the Jorge Ramos. The close shot of Ramos would be because everybody in Latin America recognizes him and so they will get behind him and jump up and down and put you know ears on his head no that sort of thing so they have to keep it tight yeah but that's my guess but that's not showing you a caravan this just showing him amidst a few uh would look like professional refugee tents

18:09 Yeah. With a couple people walking by! I just don't know what to believe has gone from two and a half, to seven, to three, to fourteen thousand now come on show me this for real I'm just not seeing it. The whole thing has to be a Republican, GOP, some strategist, Bannon, Roger Stone...I don't know Someone came up with that and it was perfect It's perfect! The timing is perfect people being shuttled around on flatbeds. It makes nothing but sense and in the cynical world that I live in, the minute these phony baloney clockboy type dildo bombs show up like oh okay that's your answer? Okay Democrats very funny

CHAPTER 05 / 43 Discussion

Suspicious Packages, Media Coverage of Bomb Threats

A series of suspicious packages containing crude explosive devices were sent to prominent Democratic figures and CNN's New York bureau. While the media focused on CNN as a target, the package was specifically addressed to former CIA Director John Brennan, who is a contributor at NBC/MSNBC. The devices, described as PVC pipe bombs with digital clocks, were intercepted by the Secret Service at off-site screening facilities.

pipe bombs· cnn· john brennan· debbie wasserman schultz· secret service

18:58 That's that is the way I see it today. Yeah, well i'm not going to argue on any of these points It could be the dildos were sent around by the democrats and the uh The caravan could be by the republicans you don't know let me tell you what? I do know Very unusual in all in 11 years very unusual You get immediate pictures of the package and the bomb and close-ups with the clock still operational And the wires attached this is very unusual It does if you cut the early pictures, you do have Debbie Wasserman Schultz address. Yes Spelled incorrectly Florida that whole thing is just too well done Let's let's go into this talk about the bombs with those starting one sec

19:45 If let's just say this is some left-wing Democrat, you know whatever Soros I don't care who came up with the idea. Don't you think that if you and I were strategizing? All right Here's what we're gonna do We're gonna send these bombs gonna make them look this way now when here's how we're actually gonna put stamps on him But we won't actually mail them will mail a couple because we want those to get stopped by the Secret Service but We really got to make sure it looks like it's coming from some Republican nutjob. I know we'll misspell the Jewess' name, because that's how they think and we will do a typo on Florida then it totally looks like its coming from some redneck crazy guy Republican. Reasonable. Let's go with bombs PBS rundown

20:33 Federal agents are working tonight to get to the bottom of a rash of bombs up and down the East Coast. The targets are mainly prominent Democrats as well as CNN, and locations range from New York... Stop right there! Stop stop stop This is part of this story that kind of... Yeah which is a lie And everybody said it There was never a bomb sent to CNN They sent one to Brennan at CNN That's not where he works He works at MSNBC So there were I mean if you want to count that but they make it sound as though CNN was some sort of a target Oh, and all the stories say this. Oh did you see? The Cuomo kid and Don Lemon outside And they're doing back-and-forth hugging each other stay safe brother is good It's tough being a journalist yeah They totally took put that shoe on like it was made for them no it was for Brennan

21:32 Anyway, so let's finish that but they actually have that part of the CNN vacating the place. Nobody else did that by the way but CNN did. They vacated the premises and all the reports were on site. John you an I were Zucker we would do the same thing play this up this is fantastic! This is ratings! Targets are mainly prominent Democrats as well as CNN and locations range from New York to Florida Amna Nawaz begins our coverage After a string of explosive devices were sent to two former Democratic presidents, senior officials and a high-profile party donor. President Trump today pledged action. He promised the full resources of the government to bring to justice those responsible for what he called despicable acts in these times we have to unify We have to come together and send one very clear strong unmistakable message that acts

CHAPTER 06 / 43 Discussion

Donald Trump, National Unity Speech Analysis

President Donald Trump delivered a speech calling for national unity and the cessation of political violence following the discovery of the mail bombs. Analysts deconstruct his rhetorical style, noting his use of "Greek chorus" persuasion techniques and his defensive posture regarding being compared to historical villains.

donald trump· political violence· persuasion· saudi arabia· rhetoric

22:29 or threats of political violence of any kind have no place in the United States. This read is so flat, I'm so disappointed in this and this sounds so insincere Is there no one telling him to play this up a bit? Well actually...I have the long version of this which is a way he had to do it this way to kinda twist the story to kinda blame the Democrats well its lame You try this, you skip to this. This is the Trump plea. This is a buck 57 hour one minute 57 seconds. Trump plea regarding bombs. This is the whole this whole spiel it's done in that same

23:14 Alright, let's analyze it. Let's analyze it The federal government is conducting an aggressive investigation and we will find those responsible And we will bring them to justice hopefully very quickly Any acts or threats of political violence are an attack on our democracy itself No nation can succeed that tolerates violence or the threat of violence as a method of political intimidation, coercion or control. We all know that such conduct must be fiercely opposed and firmly prosecuted.

24:00 He tends to, he'll say something and then this is one of his persuasion things. He says something and then he backs himself up with being the chorus like a Greek chorus saying we all know that I think that donuts are good We all know that! We all like doughnuts. And doughnuts with coffee is even better. We all love coffee. Or one of these what is also true is doughnuts are fantastic It's another way of doing it. And also before, this is he giving a speech in front... This is one of his rallies so it's a little different than his rally style Which I would have expected him to do a little better than this. Coercion or control we all know that such conduct must be fiercely opposed and firmly prosecuted We want all sides

24:54 To come together in peace and harmony, we can do it. We can do it! It'll happen More broadly there's much we can do to bring our nation together For example those engaged in the political arena must stop treating political opponents as being morally defective Have to do this Have to say that thats what they're doing to me The language of moral condemnation and destructive routine, these are arguments and disagreements that have to stop. No one should carelessly compare political opponents to historical villains. Stop calling me a Nazi! Which is done often- Hitler It's done all the time gotta stop We should not mob people

25:56 in public spaces or destroy public property. You know, you're right! You're so right I think he got that figured out There is one way to settle our disagreements it's called peacefully at the ballot box that's what we want yeah So basically his way of calming everybody down was saying hey Democrats stop calling us names That is very that's it. That is a persuasive technique for sure and doing it with all his little tricks Commentaries a little mumbling under the breath, which is actually a sales pitch Well, he does he doesn't seem freaked out about it So I guess he knows its bogart of as well You know He's not freaked out at all when he was watching his body language recently And I'm trying finally I noticed something interesting when he is like oh

26:51 irked or really bothered by something, he crosses his arms. And if you look at any of his commentary about Saudi Arabia, normally in his chair leaning forward... He's not behind the desk, he's in a chair leaning forward so it doesn't look like he is fat but in this case all the Saudi Arabia chit-chat, his arms are crossed and tight and he's giving opinions about the Saudi Arabia situation and He's very annoyed. I don't think he's annoyed unless he has his arms crossed, you know out for that Ted Kaczynski of course is just rolling around in his cell there going like what an idiot Nothing exploded this makes no sense referring to the Unabomber And and I looked at I looked at the there's a presumption here that I'd just like to question for a moment I look at the list of people

27:47 We have Democrats and one intelligence person, that being Brennan. So this is clearly the Demi-Bomber I think that would be the appropriate name since we're never going to find out who did this Could it be that this is not related to the elections? Could it be that this is related to Saudi Arabia being very pissed off about all of mainly Democrats and John Brennan, all calling for suspension or severing of ties between the US and Saudi Arabia. I don't know that Brennan did that. No he played pieces in a long interview

CHAPTER 07 / 43 Discussion

FBI Investigation, Pipe Bomb Technical Details

The FBI laboratory in Quantico, Virginia, began deconstructing the intercepted mail bombs to trace the origin of components like PVC tubing and digital clocks. Investigators are searching for forensic evidence, including fingerprints and DNA, while technical experts question the functionality of the devices due to their crude construction.

fbi· jeff pegues· quantico· dna evidence· pipe bombs

28:32 Well he's like, well maybe. I don't remember him specifically saying that anyway let's play the rest of this and i have a couple follow-up clips you can you we can drop out of the uh pbs okay down all right we need it okay so what are we playing up the rest of them oh you've arrested the trump thing is there any oh no that was it that was done that was the end of it well then we have uh i had to get this this was um the bomber I got both Fran Townsend, we know her. Yes Spook. The spook but we have...I've been missing him for..I don't know We haven't heard a clip from Jeff Pegues Ha ha the poop man! For quite some time But yet here he is Hey buddy let's see if i can make it Multiple law enforcement sources Damn I nailed it

29:21 Multiple law enforcement sources say one of the bombs consisted of PVC tubing and used a digital clock connected to a small battery as a possible trigger device. Pyrotechnic powder was the explosive, and in order to kill the bomb it would have taken a lot more power than that. It was like the stuff that you put in firecrackers. Yeah, flashpot keep it magnesium. Yeah wait glass was used as shrapnel investigators think whoever put the device together was trying to keep the weight down so that it could be Put in a mailbox without having to appear at a post office for mailing Ron Hosko is a former assistant director of the FBI What does it say that they didn't explode? Well may say that

30:07 They were intercepted prior to their ability to explode. It may say that they were never capable of exploding even though they may have had black powder in them The six packages, all consisting of a large manila envelope with six American forever flag stands will now be analyzed at the FBI laboratory in Quantico Virginia investigators will deconstruct them looking to trace the origin of the wiring and the other components, to see where and when they may have been purchased. And by whom? On the package itself look for fingerprints and potentially the suspects DNA if the stamps were licked As they're gathering this information all these investigators how does that information filter up to the top what markings are on the outside or on the inside a piece of end cap

30:54 to see who's the manufacturer, where is that product distributed? Is it unique in some way? Looking at the tape. Looking at end cuts on the tape if I tear something off and a piece of that tape is left on my subject at my house they may be able to match ends Tonight the FBI and police in Los Angeles are swarming the Central Postal Facility there were told investigators have discovered another suspicious package addressed to Congresswoman Maxine Waters if it turns out to be real this would be the second address two waters and the seventh package overall Yeah, we haven't seen a single statement about the actual bomb itself which is interesting I'd like to know did it work was it real what was in? It. What's the mechanism? Well there is a guy on Twitter

CHAPTER 08 / 43 Discussion

Secret Service, Mail Screening Protocols

The Secret Service utilizes off-site facilities to screen mail for high-profile protectees using x-rays, biosensors, and radiation detectors. This long-standing protocol, in place for over 30 years, ensures that suspicious devices are identified and handled by robots before reaching their intended recipients.

secret service· mail screening· x-ray· biosensors· robots

31:42 Who's a bomb guy? Ah and he said I got to go back and get his tweets But he said these this was bullcrap because he says pipe bombs for one thing never have wires coming out of both sides is idiotic Right, and he went on and on about how these bombs are phony. He thought they were all just props props props well Well, um I did hunt around Because, you know most of these did not reach the... and this is also reported very by omission very poorly. Hillary Clinton! Barack Obama! They never got those bombs They never got the envelopes. They were stopped at the central processing which is Secret Service Handles and there was a pretty interesting interview on NPR and they were about You know this this screening of packages for people under federal protection By the Secret Service, and there was little thing in here that I thought was interesting at the end well so that the common practice of the Secret Service is to screen

32:40 male at an off-site location. Typically, and this has been going on for the last 30 – 35 years where they have available a number of different sensors that detect biosensors, radiation and other known gases. And in this case if it was a pipe bomb would have been easily detected in an x-ray machine or trace detection machine on site. That's just what I'm going to ask you if you could give us a picture of what that mail sorting process is like? When Secret Service agents sift through the daily mail how do they handle it in case it could explode or be toxic? You mentioned an X-Ray machine...what else

33:20 Well, typically if it's determined that it's of risk. If it's a device that's suspicious they have containers they also have robots that will come in and actually look at the device remotely so there is not human involved in the examination process So its very detailed The secret service actually goes through exercises where their own try to place devices that might Be at risk and test the the the mail operation 24-7. That's what it sounds like to me This looks exactly like some test thing they want to send through let's see if they catch it

CHAPTER 09 / 43 Discussion

Trump Campaign Rhetoric, Media Responsibility

During a rally, President Trump emphasized the importance of the upcoming midterm elections and criticized the media for fostering hostility. His delivery is compared to a comedian like Robin Williams practicing new material from a notepad, suggesting he is still refining his messaging for the current political climate.

donald trump· midterm elections· media hostility· robin williams· dana carvey

34:07 I like the way that you pointed this out before, but the use of the word device. Yes seems to be very common device before we go to Fran let's go. I forgot We do have a second half of that Trump plea This is where he is continuing on this spiel at front of the large audience And he kind of really starts twisting it even more toward the Democrats as part of a larger national effort to bridge our divides and bring people together The media also has a responsibility to set a civil tone and to stop the endless hostility and constant negative, and oftentimes false attacks. And stories have to do it. Have to do it. They've got to stop bring people together were just 13 days away

35:04 From a very, very important election. It's an election of monumental just if you look at it monumental importance isn't it? Wouldn't you say monumental importance There are dramatic differences between our two political parties that we know. It is essential for democracy to draw a sharp contrast between the two different platforms put before the American people, and we have a chance to do that right now in many states and on November 6th We need more not less debate about policy issues in our country

35:49 But what we cannot do is let our disagreements about matters of policy, terrorists apart as a country can't do that. We must accept the verdicts of elections, and remember that America's greatest achievements have always been those endeavors we embarked on together. We have had great, great achievements." Yeah see? He could've easily said the same thing but done it in a way that got the crowd really excited and no one is excited! That was-that what wrong with the picture It just wrong No he is not... That's what you need for everybody But he has worked into his routine

36:29 It's not for even he's I've come to the conclusion that his polished routine, which is what he does normally where he's you know Conversational rather than it sounds like he's reading which is what he's doing here. I just don't think he's had time to incorporate This is all new right? Just like you're given a comedian and then new look new lines like okay, can if you go away Watch we used to go there There's a place locally that on Tuesday nights would have A lot of the famous local comedians would come out and Robin Williams was there all the time, Dana Carvey. All these different characters and they come out to practice their material and Carvey I think less so but Robin Williams always come out with a yellow notepad

37:15 He just read material from the notepad and to get the response. Mm-hmm, and it was and it was not smooth It was not like he's talking it is like he's below Let me try this joke and then you start reading this basically reading like reading jokes even though they were more complicated I think that's what's going on here by the way just thinking from a strategy standpoint It would probably be smarter, you know instead well what we're seeing now is all the bomb is all Trump's fault. You know because he said oh the enemy of the people so that's why it was sent to CNN and uh you know he's really making that a stretch the CNN thing yeah but they're pulling all the stops out it would be much smarter from

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Fran Townsend, Bomb Investigation Commentary

Former Homeland Security Advisor Fran Townsend provides analysis on the crude nature of the mail bombs, suggesting the perpetrator left a unique "signature" by not using standard online recipes. The discussion explores the possibility of the suspect being an amateur who made numerous mistakes, such as using incorrect addresses and misspellings.

fran townsend· cia· fbi· pipe bombs· debbie wasserman schultz

37:59 a mission perspective to blame this on the Saudis. That's what everybody wants, that's the big news we'll get to in a minute everyone wants to cut... Cut no no no no no the Russians it's now Saudis everything switch to that No, that could be. Let's get to Fran I want to because I like let's get the friend but before we get to Frank do have a little short snippet? I went I want you to play it's very short It's only nine seconds But I wanted to see how fast you are on the draw okay You should be able to figure it out by the name of the clip My highest duty as you know as president is to protect and defend our

38:41 Uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America, Mr. President! Keep America safe! That's what we do. That's not what you do, duh! That is what we do. Nah hold on hold on hold on he gets a firm and solid... Lies. LIES!! He lies!!! I hate that with a passion. I hate that. They knew what they were doing enough to make a bomb, Fran. But certainly not in a very sophisticated way. That's right it's what we're hearing from law enforcement is it's a crude device It would have been lethal if opened and detonated but its not a standard recipe And so what we are hearing from law enforcement sources this an individual who didn't go on the internet

39:31 pull down a standard al-qaeda recipe which we've seen before so he's left his own signature right there is that something unique about the way this has been put together which will very much be very helpful to investigate but the notion that it's PVC and not metal and so potentially could get through a metal detector is a little frightening. That's right, this is somebody who thought about it he ought to listen that's also the reason you have all the return addresses being Debbie Wasserman Schultz to all these Democratic leaders thinking that perhaps it wouldn't be screened because it was familiar they would have expected something from her You think an arrest happens quickly in a case like this? I do. I think there'll be lots of breaks This is somebody who's made plenty of mistakes The wrong address to Eric Holder, misspelling John Brennan's name John Brennan doesn't work at CNN He works at NBC And so this is somebody who has made plenty of mistake along the way All the outside packages are identical

40:20 six stamps, two tears printed labels. This is somebody who's likely left a lot of clues odd but still scary. Yeah. Fran Townsend amateur and the amateur I tell you amateur I think it was you know that the possibility It was Debbie Wasserman Schultz all along. Well, you know to be honest and I know you tweeted about it but they really should have gone to her first and said let me just check out what's going on. Just because she is Debbie Wasserman Schultz doesn't absolve her from any possible... She could be the bummer! Wrong? Well it came from her! That's what says! Regardless, I think your point is valid they should at least have said hey

41:05 I don't know if anyone went to her right away. No, I don't think so anyway this whole thing is...I don't think they're gonna find anybody unless they can paint it on the Saudis and therefore Trump somehow They could get him in there! They may have Apache already lined up I mean, it's possible. Somebody pointed out that when the bomb thing first cropped up because I had mentioned it six weeks ago... Yes! It was to the day wasn't it? That there is a six-week cycle underway once again and to the day is when the bombing thing came up which indicates if it's an FBI deal that means they probably have some sucker already in custody who was a suspect

41:55 And another one of these guys who's really dumb and you know, he is going to be the guy they're gonna pin it on. And they probably would have him do what... actually do the bombs I mean it's possible Let me show you how to do these bombs Oh okay Yeah First you wear this gloves and don't touch anything By the way I thought Jeff Pagais when he said that can check and see whether the stamps were licked When's the last time you ever bought a stamp that you could lick? No, I just bought stamps the other day. Yeah. You don't-I don't even have envelopes that you'd lick anymore

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US Postal Service, Stamp Prices and Uniforms

A discussion on the United States Postal Service covers the rising cost of stamps and the unique requirement for the agency to pre-pay retirement benefits. Anecdotes from a local post office visit highlight issues with new untucked uniforms and the recommendation to stock up on "Forever" stamps before potential price hikes.

usps· stamps· elvis stamps· pension funding· postal uniforms

42:32 Yeah, yeah. So there's no stamps to lick that hasn't been for I don't know how many years By the way went to the post office to buy stamps because they got some really cool stamps. I got the Elvis stamps The Elvis stamps are cool. They uh, but airmail stamps are the ones that are going fast if you find those They're done in an old-fashioned style and they're actually engraved and they will last longer Oh! They won't fade like that Elvis stamp will You know, I sent my IRS check to the Treasury. Yeah? And I only had one stamp left and it was a snake and i'm like oh man... I don't feel... I'm gonna put this on there someone's going to open this up that asshole putting the snake stamp on. Audit! It just you know I just had that feeling

43:17 Yeah, I thought it was. That's why I got the Elvis stamp! But I was told because they're already talking about making... Because you know they've scammed the US Postal Service and American public with the way they're doing their work. Nobody else in the world has to do this but they have to pre-pay all of their retirement benefits And so they're talking about the dollar being, a dollar being the cost of a stamp and maybe within the next year. Screw it we're just gonna jack it up to a buck! You know I was at the post office to send a box off to Christina and there was only one person one woman who's working there

43:57 And so I'm chatting her up, because you know...I don't get out of the house much. So I want some human interaction and I lay this on her. You guys really always begin with that. You guys really got screwed man with that pre-funding of your pensions and they bitch about it. Yeah! So immediately the post office worker loves you because they all know it like yeah that's right Is this your uniform?" And she said, yeah we just got new uniforms. They suck balls! They're so horrible they don't fit right and they do look horrible I mean, the U.S. Postal... Have a look at them! The shirts are no longer meant to be tucked in they just hang out They got you know it's like really trying to ruin the postal service government guys Yes! You guys got a general, you've got a general in charge of ya This has a lot do with Federal Express and DHL and this business

44:51 Well anyway, my postwoman said I asked her about the stamp increases. Should i just be stocking up on these forever stamps because they're forever? She says yeah you should buy as many as you can is when a price goes up it's going to be very hard. It's gonna be hard to buy stamps. Yeah so expensive... I'm gonna ask for the stamps that don't get cancelled when they go through the machine. I'd like those stamps please. You know like the ones that got sent to Brennan at CNN. So anyways, back to the original premise of this caravan. Very convenient perfect Republican talking point This is why I don't belong to parties because this is the asshole stuff that goes on in these outfits People become just horrible and so I think this whole caravan thing is exaggerated at best

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Mike Pompeo, Immigration Policy and Sovereignty

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo asserted that the United States will not allow the migrant caravan to enter the country illegally, urging participants to seek asylum in Mexico. Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen and media figures are reported to be traveling to the border to monitor the situation as a matter of national security.

mike pompeo· mexico· asylum· refugee process· kirstjen nielsen

45:39 and there's just a lot of imagery, you know. We're not really getting much else we're just not and then you have maybe this as the counterbalance like oh these guys are unhinged they're crazy you got to be against Trump and everybody he supports and so then we have this caravan news which is It's really, well here is Pompeo. Here is Pompeo setting the stage as to what we will and will not allow. The migrant caravan is violating Mexico's sovereignty laws and immigration procedures President Trump will not stand for this to happen to the United States

46:19 To those who say this is a hard-hearted stance, let's not forget that the United States is an historically generous nation when it comes to immigration. Over 1 million people per year are granted permanent legal status here in the United States. Over 33 million people total are currently here... I always loved the thirty three meme. ...who have immigrated to this country legally. To those who want to come here, come here legally." Now let's just stop for one second just so we all understand If you're of the opinion these are people who are being threatened with their lives, or being threatened at home. They are fleeing this! Mexico will not have them they're fleeing and they're here for asylum

47:01 Okay, we have a procedure for that. You must go to a port of entry you may sit there for a month as well But that's the procedure not just going to the border and saying I request asylum There it's in it There are multiple ports you can go to there's ways To do it a lot easier ways than what they're trying to do right now legal immigration is the surest way to obtain the better life you're looking for here in the United States of America. From a security standpoint, there is no proper accounting of who these individuals in the caravan are and this poses an unacceptable security risk to the United States. Moreover many these people are ripe targets for human traffickers and others who would exploit them we don't want that to happen I've spoken twice in the last two days

47:48 to my counterpart, Foreign Secretary Videgaray. We trust that Mexico's leaders know what the best steps are to resolve this situation and we urge timely action on their part. The United States also has a message for those who are currently part of this caravan or any caravan which follows you will not be successful at getting into the United States illegally no matter what I repeat the caravan will not cross our southern border illegally under any circumstances If you seek to come here, go through the normal refugee process. If you apply for refugee status a permanent solution is possible in Mexico or in a third country but I can tell you with certainty we are determined... Did you hear that? So you can also request your asylum status in Mexico let me just play that back...

48:35 If you apply for refugee status, a permanent solution is possible in Mexico or in a third country. But I can tell you with certainty that we are determined that illegal entry into the United States From this caravan will not be possible and just to show you how how this is being abused or used for its only purpose today What's a Martha McCollum? Whoever's who's on before frat boy Tucker. Is that Martha Martha McCullum, no No Maybe yeah So Martha is going to be doing her show from the border with DHS secretary Christian Nielsen I mean come on This is

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Media Elitism, UN Refugee Commission Involvement

Criticism is directed at media commentators for elitist attitudes regarding immigrant labor, specifically the suggestion that immigrants are needed for menial tasks. Furthermore, the UN High Commission for Refugees is identified as a supporting force behind the caravan, fueling concerns about globalist influence on national borders.

jenny jardin· racism· unhcr· globalism· immigration

49:15 is nothing but political this caravan down to where war is or San Antonio for some food I don't know what she's you know she wants to get out of the office but then you read like yeah we know Jenny Jardin you know Jenny yeah course so Jenny is a technology reporter since we know her professionally with met with there several times here's what she puts on Twitter That's right. I'm doing Jenny's voice to a T by the way, that's right terrified white people The brown zombies are a thousand miles from the southern border and they're coming to mow your lawns wash your cars Harvest your crops pack your pork raise your kids mopped your floors Vacuum your office and pay taxes time to flip out like that is such a tone-deaf colorblind thing to say

50:08 It is also extremely racist. Well, it's very... this is the old well if you remember I was thinking on The View when some one of the women on there one of their left wingers which Jenny would be says who's gonna clean our toilets? Yeah This is like unbelievable. It's like that's what we're dealing with, we just gonna get a bunch of immigrants... You know who used to clean the toilets? That's what they're good for, they are good for cleaning the toilets! Yeah it used to be the Irish, the Irish were doing that kind of stuff this when i hear a Jenny Jardin like this and somehow its

50:48 There's this elitist attitude that we should be really happy these people want to come in to do the jobs We don't want to do and I have no problem cleaning my own toilet. I actually find it somewhat therapeutic in an odd way It's it's placing anyone who is of a certain color into a certain position And by hiring someone to do that, to pack your pork you can then say I help out the brown people. Look, I'm putting them on the ladder to success in America! Aren't I good? By putting them on the ladder to the roof... Yes there's something really disturbing about it Yeah this is for it's always been and again it flows so easily

51:37 from so easily and they don't even understand what this is. Who's going to clean my toilet? Jeez, you were asking who's helping these people out or what is going on and I have seen a actually there's one video that it has subtitles because it's just the YouTube video from someone on their phone some lady going through her town saying well this is what they left because you want know where was the poop in the trash well it's in that town in Mexico And they said, they did. They just left half-eaten food rations and none of the clothes that people collected and put out for the caravanners to use... None of them took any of that so you know that's not exactly the way you'd expect people to behave if they're on their way to freedom

52:24 But there's something else that is going on. We think that every state should take any measure that they consider necessary to defend their border. But what we really appeal is like to open the space, to the people or to open their territory, to open right there asylum system and to the people that really are in need of protection. So the UN High Commission on Asylum, what is it? The actual high commission for refugees is helping this caravan and saying you should let them in! The globalists appear to be behind this not just our own globalist in America but the ones at the United Nations

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Nationalism, Trump Houston Rally Rhetoric

At a campaign rally in Houston, President Trump explicitly identified himself as a "nationalist," sparking a media firestorm. Outlets like Democracy Now! and various pundits debated the connotations of the word, often linking it to white supremacy or historical fascist regimes, while Trump defined it as prioritizing the interests of one's own country.

nationalism· amy goodman· houston· america first· globalism

53:22 The very New World Order global no nations, no borders headquarters. So are you stunned by this? I think it should be discussed! Nobody's going to discuss it because the Globalists won't allow it. Let's face it the Globalist have taken over the media Yes Well and now this brought up a point that I thought... This is Amy Goodman This was one of the most interesting clips and it's a two-parter, because the second part is funny too. I would like to deconstruct it a little bit but the first part... This is Trump, Trump, Trump. She goes nuts about this shit! This is like the big scandal on the left. Oh, Trump as a nationalist? Yeah. I got some clips for that too. All right good good good good. Woohoo! Hit it? At Houston Texas campaign rally for Republican Senator Ted Cruz Monday evening President Trump declared that he's a nationalist.

54:18 A nationalist is a person that wants the globe to do well, frankly not caring about our country so much. And you know what? We can't have that! You know they have a word it sort of became old-fashioned it's called a nationalist and I say really we're not supposed to use that word you know what I am? I'm a nationalist okay Trump's comments Monday aligned with his populist America First rhetoric through the label of nationalists as more often associated with extreme right-wing ideology and fascist regimes. Questioned by reporters Tuesday, Trump denied the term nationalist was used to describe racist movements saying he was proud to use it and that a quote should be brought back

55:02 So I thought that she was aghast at this because we can't even use the word because the word implies all kinds of other things. Oh yeah! And... No, no actually this is what it is a white nationalist is like saying white bread you got bread by itself nationalists by itself but the moment you put something else in front of it which is what we've heard for the past three years really if you take the campaigning into account The anchor of the word nationalist is now anchored into these people's heads for sure as white nationalists Yeah, it's a word trick which then also goes to white supremacist. Of course Hitler oh They like to do this sort of thing now actually the second part of this clip It's got some it's got some usage I don't like and I'm gonna explain why okay? And then it's also going to reveal that

55:58 Pence believes that Venezuela's behind the, which I said on a couple of shows ago is behind the caravan of madness. Proud to use it and that it quote should be brought back The wife of white supremacist leader Richard Spencer Oh no you're playing the wrong clip Well its number two Yeah Yeah, you're right. This is the wrong series to this my fault okay this I wanted to do have the other clip you were just talking about now and i want to play this clip first because this was I just lost track of my my my paring sorry like a fine wine with some

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George Orwell, Definitions of Nationalism

CNN's Chris Cuomo and Steve Cortez debate the definition of nationalism, with Cuomo invoking George Orwell to argue that the term carries inherent negative baggage. The discussion contrasts "American nationalism," based on shared constitutional ideals, with the racial purity ideologies of the Nazi party.

chris cuomo· george orwell· nationalism· naziism· steve cortez

56:34 Duck so we just talked about white nationalism white supremacy why you know, I'm not done with that. So you transition But this could this clip now, so she just played that clip. Oh, I see what it is Yes, and what then? What does she transition into right guys no other story She goes right from the end of the Trump clip with her quote Yeah Right to this and listen to this to me a subtle creepy propaganda. Proud to use it and that a quote should be brought back the wife of white supremacist leader Richard Spencer has accused him of regularly physically and emotionally abusing her during marriage according to divorce filings. That is very dirty trick, very dirty trick well hold on this was on

57:25 Oh, this is the Cuomo kid. Just so you can laugh Steve Cortez who I think is brown by the way he's a Republican they're talking about it like Anna Navarro's on and I don't have any of her but just listen to him say hey this is just a nationalist does not mean Nazi or white supremacist listen to what the Cuomo kid evokes Is that just the straight truth? Trump is a nationalist and with all that word carries. No, no he is a nationalist I am too but you don't understand what it does carry when you try to compare American nationalism to Nazis for example You're incredibly mistaken because the Nazis their perverted nationalism was about racial purity It was about blood and soil American nationalism which by the way defeated

58:07 naziism. American nationalism is about shared ideals, it's about a constitution that has nothing to do with race for example yes it is well by the way you don't get Chris to just decide nobody made you CEO of the English language Do you know better than George Orwell? That is nationalism to me! Do you know who that is? Yes I do. You know better than he? Yeah. Well then why does he see a difference? Hey man, Don't you know who George Orwell is?! What!? Now George Orwell determines the word nationalist. Oh God! And that's what we're... it was like, Trump is like 1984 man he's like The Pigs! It's The Pigs man! I have a long clip but we can stop whenever we want but its Nicole Wallace and her band of people on MSNBC yesterday

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MSNBC Panel, Trump and the "N-Word"

An MSNBC panel led by Nicolle Wallace compared President Trump's use of the word "nationalist" to dictators like Adolf Hitler and Idi Amin. The segment features intense criticism of Trump's intelligence and historical knowledge, eventually culminating in a commentator referring to "nationalist" as the new "N-word" used to signal to a white, non-college-educated base.

nicole wallace· msnbc· adolf hitler· idi amin· dog whistles

59:00 I cut all kinds of unimportant stuff out and it's still just minutes of insanity, unhinged stuff. Would you like to play along? Oh yeah! Today he doubled down on being a nationalist He is and the tweets that were put up earlier from Robert Costa are right This is a little bit of evolution for him. A devolution perhaps. A phrase that at first he didn't really want to embrace And a key moment was actually after the Access Hollywood tape cover the campaign would remember it. So a week or so later he gave a speech in Florida, I believe and it was the one where there was real screed against globalist institutions that afterwards there's a lot of criticism and felt anti-Semitic. And that sort of... It felt anti-Semitic?

59:42 says the non-jew honoring what country's role around the world has been. Now in the Oval Office just now we saw him splitting hairs a little bit, like he tried to suggest that he didn't even... He wasn't even aware of the negative connotations of that term. Because he doesn't know anything about history! Peter Baker do you think he knows? that some of the great nationalists of all time, including Adolf Hitler. I mean every dictator pleaded for their constituents beginning to call them out there subjects in the case of Idi Amin and others. Oh ho we just brought an Idi Amin this is new! Idi Amin was he a nationalist?

1:00:33 Not that I know of. He was just a dictator run by the CIA, wasn't he? Well this wasn't an excuse But to bring in Idi Amin is new To sort of harken to their nationalist impulses Well you know there's a reason why other presidents don't use the phrase nationalists to describe themselves They use a safer term patriot right Patriotism is something that mostly people can agree on as safe politically It's more unifying were the nationalist nationalists. No, I disagree don't you think that word patriot has also been completely tainted down into racist to say i'm a patriot? It can be...I think you're gonna just say that. I think it's logical. I do not think you can still stand up and say I am a patriot because you'll hear oh yeah

1:01:17 Republican. nationalism? Well, let's look at the phrase for instance America first which we just talked about. I mean America first he might not have known it was associated with pre-World War II isolationists and Nazi sympathizers but clearly you learn that at some point along the way... They just can't stop! It's like, he doesn't know the history of World War II. He doesn't know the history of Hitler! He doesn't have a history! He does not have a history! He doesn't have a history! Notice how they just slip that in? He uses that against some of us?! No...

1:02:09 No, fake news. he more than anybody else is standing up for the united states and it resonates with the crowd last night in houston i was there they loved that they treat a blue door globalist they cheered the word nationalist we said on the nationalistic chant at u s a u s a this is a galvanizing uh... language for his core supporters going into a midterm election two weeks from now how are you telling them know that they cheered and had like to have any kind of nationalists

1:02:58 Isn't divorced from the capacity to cheer a crowd. It doesn't make it right, it doesn't make an American and it doesn't mean that Donald Trump isn't totally ignorant of the history of the word nationalism. Donald Trump doesn't read books. She goes on and she keeps hounding this one point. He's ignorant, he doesn't know what he is doing, he is like a moron, he hasn't ever...doesn't know what nationalism means. Oh wait! No it gets better. Isn't divorced from the capacity to cheer a crowd? It doesn't make it right, it doesn't make it American and it doesn't mean that Donald Trump isn't totally ignorant of the history of the word nationalism

1:03:33 Donald Trump doesn't read books. I don't think any of this he doesn't read books not even his own from Donald Trump studying the history of Nazism or Charles Lindbergh or any of Charles Lindbergh, why are we bringing Charles Lindbergh in now? This is also No idea. I mean Lindbergh was a Nazi sympathizer before World War II in the mid-30s, so maybe that's the reason they're bringing him in? I don't know it is like a callback that nobody cares about for some reason they just throw enough stuff in half their audience doesn't even know who Neil Sadaka is

1:04:09 These other hateful trends. That's a good line by the way going into the midterms He understands that the base that got him elected in 2016 is still the base he needs now and that is predominantly white It's predominantly male, and it's non college-educated And he's doing in other words dumb fucks and racist dog whistles. Let me just defend dog whistles their silence These are loud. Let me read this to you, Don Edwards. The Washington Post's Greg Sargent writes what would make his claim controversial is if Trump actually meant racial nationalists which of course is exactly what he did mean Joe! No! He said it! He said I'm not a globalist and now they're just taking this and this is a lie By claiming to be breaking a taboo by using this particular n-word... N word there we go

1:04:58 basically confirm that without saying it out loud. You on board with that analysis Donna? Well I think that's exactly right and some people have described this as an overtoner. Listen to her she is great, she is the last one. Undertone its not, its the tone. The President of United States, the only thing that was missing from that speech in Houston last night was the Tiki Torches and the Khakis because the President of the United States understands what he believes he needs to turn out his base. He's using that, it's xenophobic and racist. Racist? And you know that coupled with the caravans and even the defense of Brett Kavanaugh, uh, the beleaguered white man under assault by the rest of America all these play into what Trump sincerely believes is a way that his voters are going to turn out and is the worst possible thing so

1:05:50 The president is doing this on purpose and I think we shouldn't get fooled into thinking, well maybe he doesn't understand what he said. He understood full well what he said and meant it. Ah! You used the N-word that Hitler. Wow. That is the worst. I mean, that's...I can't give you a clip of the day because it's- No! I don't want to. I would refuse. I would reject it because it's just so offensive It's so offensive as drivel But yet they should...CNN should be ashamed of itself for putting stuff like that out there. No no, MSNBC Oh what am I thinking? Yeah. I mean I listen to this all day. I mean that's really my- You know NBC has

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Megyn Kelly, Blackface Controversy and NBC Exit

Megyn Kelly faced immediate backlash and potential cancellation of her NBC show after making comments questioning the sensitivity surrounding blackface in Halloween costumes. Despite multiple apologies, colleagues like Al Roker criticized her, and reports suggest a multi-million dollar settlement is being negotiated for her departure from the network.

megyn kelly· nbc· blackface· al roker· jeff zucker

1:06:36 Well NBC and we should mention a car of course like because there's the thing I want to read. I don't have any clips Although I could get plenty of them, but is the miss the Megyn Kelly thing Yes now she's in BC This is very very cool Now what happened with Megyn Kelly? And if you've been watching my tweets when I first saw the first article come out because she She had gone on her show and said you know She naively did this, but I can kind of understand it from her perspective. You know when I was a little girl and you know she's one of those obviously cute little girls that could do anything nobody gave a crap... You could wear blackface and go trick-or-treating!

1:07:16 And I don't see what the big deal is. She has no, you know she's the one who was you know she just they told her off on the show and we can get some clips from it i can show them on Sunday do have some not todays rundown but they said this is bad you gotta apologize Well, she apologized. She apologized but then it wasn't good enough and Al Roker who's I think a hitman for the network Oh sure Came out and said no this apology is not good enough It wasn't this or was it that? You don't have a clip of that? I wish I could have heard that And then he uh she came out and apologized again with damn near crying

1:08:01 And then they condemned her for having fake tears and all this other stuff, which is she's a woman. And they're ganging up on it. They've been waiting to take her down. This was already they had the paperwork ready that were just waiting for a moment. And if you're doing a live talk show of that moments going to come? Oh, it comes a lot. But most time things get gets ignored or you go out of it with Letterman as a good example but they didn't want her. And so I watched the articles come out, Variety just was slam-basting her with editorials and varieties. Apparently a stooge for the network but Megan Kevin this is CNN opinion piece that ran on MSN Microsoft

1:08:47 Megyn Kelly's blackface comments show her true face by Roxanne Jones. And then this is interesting, I'm gonna read you the first two paragraphs. Sometimes I'm sorry just doesn't cut it a hard lesson that NBC Today Show host Megyn Kelly now understands reportedly Kelly's morning show Megyn Kelly today may be canceled according to CNN sources and Variety reports Kelly, who never really seemed like a good fit for NBC. This is the part that always cracks me up. And anyone who's worked in a company has seen this in many forms but it always takes the same form. You got an employee, the guy's a kick-ass sales guy or he does something really spectacular and everybody likes him. Something happens, you know someone gets fired

1:09:38 Then in all the meetings, the guy was never any good. Didn't really fit in. Didn't fit in we're glad to get rid of him it was a bit... And he sees this and I said wait a minute you guys loved this guy a month ago but now you hate him? And it's just like a corporate thing you have to do this I guess, it makes the mechanism work better. Because otherwise people would say why don't you get rid of Bill? He is no good! Oh she never really found her footing at the network now did she? She never really found her footing... She was doing fine. Kelly who never seemed to be a good fit this woman writes for The NBC Morning Show overplayed her popularity earlier this week when she passionately

1:10:22 passionately defended people who don blackface costumes for Halloween. And that is so she was I saw the segment you're not talking about traditional black face with the exaggerated red lips and all that That is not what she was talking about, but she used the term. No that's all that happened All she did was use the term and then it goes on a thing that most Americans understand is definitely not okay unless their intention is to offend I don't know if this is okay to offend? This makes no sense this article Quote, but what is racist? Kelly asked on her show because you do get in trouble if you are a white person who puts on blackface on Halloween or a black person who puts on white face for Halloween back when I was a kid that was okay as long as you were dressing up like a character and then It appears that you can't even discuss it no

1:11:22 Even though you may be discussing it from a screwball perspective, which wasn't right or wasn't right by today's politically correct standards. It would have been right in the 50s or the 60s. She looks like kind of like a fifties character but they were looking for something was a trap door she fell into and yeah they were just laying in wait and no matter what she did her first apology was no good according to Roker. Her second apology was a fake apology with fake tears according to these other people. And it's just now she is done, she is going to be off the air within a week the way its going they have wasted no time of fast tracking her into oblivion I think the news is out 69 million dollar settlement to leave Shit take it

1:12:10 Take it and start a podcast. NBC does this, NBC is a screwed up company for throwing money away like this. I think it was 80 million because when Conan took over the Tonight Show and then they bounced him out because Leno wanted to the show back after he failed at the 10 o'clock. And that was Zucker, by the way before we went to CNN. Zucker is running in a place and he had this bright idea of doing Leno's show at ten o'clock during primetime bumping off Law & Order and all the dramas and putting Leno on every night at ten wasn't working out as killing their ratings almost it did networks never recovered

1:12:50 They, Lennon wants to go back to the Tonight Show. They have to fire Conan who has promised the show they give him $80 million dollars to go away and I mean what do kind of these guys there's a terribly run company. Comcast owns them now don't know how Comcast puts up with this is the management at NBC it's beyond me. Oh the good news is now there's a slot open for The Return Of Matt Lauer And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage the man who put the sea and clean my toilet John C Well, in the morning to you Adam Curry. Also all in the morning to all ships at sea boots on the ground feet on the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there And in the morning to our troll room which used to be known as just the IRC channel and later became The Chat Room Void Zero set that up Thank You very much running for pretty much all 11 years I think close to it Trollroom and noagendastream.com you can go to that website on Thursdays and Sunday mornings

CHAPTER 18 / 43 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, Jobs Karma Requests

The hosts read donation notes from executive producers, including Troy Thomas and Sir Craig Porter. The segment includes "jobs karma" rituals for producers facing employment uncertainty and a discussion about the history of Agnews Developmental Center land in California.

troy thomas· craig porter· jobs karma· agnews hospital· wells fargo

1:13:52 where you will hear us do the show live, which is pretty much the same as the podcast with just like the ending tightened up and beginning with a little opener. But otherwise that you hear the pre-show and things are going on... Well if this show goes south in this we lose connections or something we get to here you Cuss. Yeah! Or hit the wall. It's a bonus some people see it as a bonus But the troll room is also very important for me. They do on-the-fly fact checking, they feed me one liners, they tell me if something's wrong and they get a lot wrong too when they troll but that's the beauty of it noagendastream.com thank you in the morning to you congratulations on 11 years. Someone has gotta feed ya 1 liners Also in the morning to Darren O'Neill he brought us the artwork for episode 1079 The title was Expando Vision

1:14:43 I should say it properly. ExpandoVision! Well, actually...I should say it properly. Go for it. ExpandoVision! Beautiful. This was the jar of Grey Poupon which was the No Agenda Grey Poupon. Yes. Dijon mustard now with more oomph He's also got 33 ounces and there's a little thing on the jar top thing. He's got a little joke on there too. Yeah, Best Buy 3-3 I can't quite see it. Something like that yeah. And never finished my Grey Poupon story but we'll leave that for later or another time. No you did!

1:15:28 Now, I never finished the story. It's okay we'll get to another time it's a... Were you interrupted? It was a celebrity show yeah no we just.. You took over mid-sentence and it was okay I was just like oh you said something interesting so I left it and then as I'm wondering what the great Poupon story is. It's not all that great but its....I'll tell at a different time. Its where it's a showbiz story involves show business people Okay when we go off the rails will do this. It's little lengthy for here okay We do have some people to thank for the anniversary show 11 years, Show 1080. And we have Show 1100 coming up pretty soon by the way which is another breakthrough. Good number all good numbers I like these 11s. Very strong numbers very strong numbers. We have the top donor and we have a bunch of ins or at least one or two instant nights Troy Thomas with 1113 dot 31 Oh

1:16:27 A lot of, that came in as a check. And he came in with a handwritten note and longhand and then he went back to all caps printing for good reason I haven't written, uh...I haven't written in cursive he writes. And it shows! You gotta read this In a long time but I am trying to remember how Bed like I am in fourth grade 44th hour just side again Great again fourth great. Again, I gotta see in penmanship So I will stop now it is getting easier as I write this but I will stop now Okay back to all the caption. Yes, please back to something we can understand

1:17:23 I love no agenda, i don't remember how i found it but i remember cranky geeks so sorry about the column john but most tech writing is shit now anyway your show messed up my podcast listening. her idea cast and career tools, but I only have so much podcast time as my commute is short. Ironically you mentioned the old Agnew's Hospital that closed my house this is the mental hospital I talked about. My house is now on the old Agnew's Hospital land it's called Rivermark and it's a master plan community

1:18:08 That is actually walkable with a Safeway dry cleaning restaurants and a credit union. There's Wells Fargo, but I would never bank with those dumb shits! There's a Pete's too John. Here's my donation old school way check 1113 dot 31 for show 1113 Okay, clear the douchebag status for me and send me some jobs karma. I first deduce you've been deduced. He says we put the jobs karma at the end of his note my staff in engineering got moved into it and management there. There sucks It's me it's time for me to move on please night mean night a river mark best

1:19:04 You can choose a few clips or old at the end of this show I think, or old school. Anyway that was so we'll give him a little jobs karma. Jobs karma! Jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! By the way you've got karma. I just wanted to mention that the void zero IRC network was Alive couple months before the show actually started I did not know void zero and we just this is the beauty of this show. And he just came into our lives and it's still here for the troll room. Well, Void Zero is a special person

1:19:48 Femme roses too. I have to give them credit for lots of special people, but these guys yeah, they do it's good for the for the dudes named Ben I'm sure there's a few others that we should literally sitting in our engine room all the time just making sure the engine is cranking and Any other way? We would be I mean we go so broke on bandwidth costs and everything They've you know they figured it all out if figured out how did he know what the most effective way yes? They're not idiots keep us safe Certainly safe is a lot of cheaper than pod bean Yes All right, you've exceeded your bandwidth. Hey I tried getting your podcast man It says that you band would succeeded what are we supposed to do now? I can't listen to the podcasts because band was succeeded

1:20:38 Sir Bereslov Marinoff in Trabuco Canyon, California 111.11 which is our special associate executive producer's special for this particular show 11th anniversary I don't have a note from him oh that's strange and it doesn't seem to have shown up in the donation so I will look for that and we'll talk will read his note on the next show whenever he can find it because he does write in yeah let me just check I'm checking real quick here I mean it could be in the PayPal thing that didn't come through. Boris Slav... Let me just see if he shows up, now i got him in... Anyway he's not working. No I don't-I do not have anything. One of our more famous nights! Yeah Okay we'll get you later Boris Slav Sir Craig Porter and Council Bluffs Iowa is the second 111 $1111 special executive producer for show 11th anniversary show council bluffs iowa

1:21:40 John and Anna, I always feel bad because so many other producers write such great notes. And all I can really... All I really have to say is happy 11th anniversary and please keep up the excellent work in media deconstruction! I'd like to ask for some jobs karma in a bands as I may be terminated from my current job at major tech company due to something boneheaded that I did. Oh boy. Won't find out until Monday You always have to, if anybody working at any level where you can write cover your ass memos just do it constantly. I've been on administrative... Follow Mayor Adler's example in Austin and it's fine. I've been on administrative leave this whole week. Oh geez Yeah, you're doomed. It doesn't sound good Unless you get yourself into some situation where they campfire because you know too much Can you blame Trump?

1:22:30 Blame Trump. Yeah, just blame for work any tips on how to deal with the meeting with my manager about my termination or appreciate Yes, I can stop I was so upset by the lack of compassion our president has for the caravan and then that he has incited all this violence with bombs I'm sorry III must have temporarily lost my mind but I'm seeing someone and I think I'll be okay. I need one more week of paid leave There's my idea. You know, if you can find some way to show that you had pointed whatever you did wrong that you had pointed out some issue that was never resolved That's a great out they got me out of it with jam once I mentioned this like two months ago and nobody said nothing enough about your first marriage What else does he say? May have a please have an L sharp in respect

1:23:34 Thanks for the, have a great day Mr. Craig. Kim Kardashian, Sigourney Weaver. They're all geniuses! There's no real conflict! Resist! We much!

CHAPTER 19 / 43 Discussion

Timothy Scott Crowe, Amazon and Whole Foods

Producer Timothy Scott Crowe discusses network infrastructure risks related to climate change. The hosts transition into a discussion about Jeff Bezos, expressing a preference for local Texas grocery chains like HEB over Whole Foods, particularly during the Austin water crisis.

amazon· jeff bezos· whole foods· risotto· heb

1:24:11 We must and we will much about that be committed. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Sir Timothy Scott Crowe in Linwood Washington becomes an executive producer with $333.33 This is 11-11-11 times three One for myself, one for my wife and one for our expecting human resource coming in April of next year. The show has helped me and I'm sure others keep an even keel between dimensions. I've been a big fan of Yeezy for a long time this clip showed me how introspective he is in business. Yeah it has that link to YouTube 24's if you want to check it out fbomit at endo

1:25:06 F-bomb at end. Okay, I follow NANOG North American Network Operators Group fairly closely this year there was a computer science professor from Wisconsin giving a speech on how ruined our network infrastructure will be with mass flooding and more frequent storms which providers are at higher risk. Videos you'd like to watch. He's talking about global warming Oh no! I can't watch Netflix now it's a problem Looking for some jobs karma. My current salary is far below the greater Seattle area median for network engineers Thanks Amazon Keeping the show going 11 years, sir Timothy Scott jobs Jobs and jobs let's vote for John You've got karma just about Amazon

1:25:59 My, my... I have resentment towards Bezos with just what he's doing and connecting everything and the advertising and the tracking. And so like you know i'm not gonna go to whole foods is much closer Whole Foods is close by. I'm going to go to HEB and we have a real ghetto HEB which I kind of enjoy it's way south on on Old Torf and I was already like oh! I'm gonna make scallops for dinner with the risotto never done in risottos my first risotto very excited that get everything What what are you doing? I just said why I'm not a big risotto fan. That's not nice It's kind of soupy rice Making a resort, I got everything I go to the fish counter for the scallops because of the water boil No ice no fish. No scallops know nothing oh

1:26:48 I race off to Whole Foods. A ghetto, like a real Texas HEB or any of these Fiestas and other chains that are just big supermarkets that appeal to the locals who know how to cook? They're fantastic stores! They got all kinds of stuff you will not get at Whole Foods. Absolutely true. And at a fraction of the price Yeah, cheaper and people are much happier and just as a whole much better experience But I did have to go to Whole Foods. They took they only had they actually had some scallops still out They were they can't put any more fish produce out is done the more fish products. They can't keep it. They can't ship it

1:27:31 So we'll be eating beef barbecue. Well, maybe it's just all a plot to get you back on the meat wagon. Yeah. We usually have sushi on Thursday nights. I don't think that's going to happen happening. I don't think so. Hoity Toity Austin Sushi. Bar Chi bar chi sushi is famous in Austin. And I don't eat sushi anywhere if not within 10 miles of an ocean coast Just a habit of mine. It's just that there's a belief of mine Hey, you know what? You are banned from coming to Austin Okay your band well not so with sir Andrew snoops Magoo Bentley He sent Tacoma Washington at three hundred thirty-three dollars that Segway huh nice I like it congratulations on your 11th year anniversary 11 is my lucky number I was born on the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleven month and

CHAPTER 20 / 43 Discussion

Al Gore, Global Warming Jingle Request

A jingle request featuring Al Gore's "atomic bomb" rhetoric and Barack Obama's warnings is played. Producer Ryan Burgette from El Paso provides an update on local support for Beto O'Rourke and requests a title change to "Knight of the Sun City."

al gore· barack obama· hiroshima· single malt scotch· el paso

1:28:26 It wasn't in 1911 though. Keep up the great work, Sir Andrews! Snoops Magoo Bentley Jingle request Any Al Gore gloom and doom soundbite followed by Obama saying you You might die And it now traps as much extra heat energy every day as would be released by 500,000 Hiroshima class atomic bombs exploding every day You might die You've got karma. I like it! Arthur Kunath in Parts Unknown, $250. Excellent product

1:29:05 He begins his note. Thank you that I enjoy very much there are so many lies misdirections hysteria and complete nonsense to the MSM mainstream media that your show is an island of Repose from my weary soul nice That's a bumper sticker for your needed work keep it up for another 11 years. Thank you very much We love being in the Island of repose for your weary soul, and thank you for your support of the show I don't know about another eleven years though Yeah. We both had the same like, kind of like what the way you think about my risotto?

1:29:43 Well, maybe if you... I didn't say anything about your risotto. I've never had your risotto. I'm talking about risotto in general. Okay. I don't make soupy risotto. All risottos are kind of soupy. A little soupy. And it loses its whatever. Ryan Burgette in El Paso Texas $250 he writes in a note. Damnit use this note! He's apparently sent like a number of notes Oh, yeah. I saw this. Sir, based...I think it was like three. Uh, uh, I don't know if this is on there you're gonna have to do that you would take a note okay sir bomb hits at bourbon back in the saddle living down in sunny el paso home of beedo beto has been a couple years since they donated due to my many excuses too common and boring to repeat here since they've been corrected in the proper term

1:30:33 in the proper term of bong rips and because I have graduated to single malt scotch, I would like to retire my current title and request a new one. Oh okay maybe Eric may have it on there let me surpass night of the sun city yes we have it sir bong hits and bourbon goes to surpass night of the Sun City yes that is on the peerage notation list Shout out to my smoking hot wife who thinks you two are annoying. Hey, shoutout back at ya! I'm slowly winning her over probably not. Doubtful The Garland clan in PA, Washington including Brielle Dame Elise Hot Fisherwoman and cousin Ian as well as my man in Seattle Ginda who I have unfortunately called out as a douchebag for not donating. I have to call out is a douche bag for not donating. Give him a douche bag! A few things from my perspective this is a big giant family of people the garlands Related to the garlands? That's insane that's

CHAPTER 21 / 43 Discussion

Beto O'Rourke, Campaign Texting and Solar Solutions

The hosts discuss the high-energy campaign of Beto O'Rourke in Texas, including personal anecdotes about receiving unsolicited campaign text messages. A producer offers a donation incentive for listeners who switch to solar energy through his company, Meraki Solar Solutions.

beto o'rourke· texas· solar energy· campaign finance· travis county

1:31:33 Did they what I'd like to know is did Dame Elise get other people to listen or was that independent? Is it something that runs in their bloodline. I think her brother is a natural for the show and this is just one of the many People that we have come to adore over the years who just do us because Dame at least gives us free things Okay, how's going in a different way but yeah send this free shit will adore you man Speaking of adoration just because it came up Beto Beto there was a 12-second clip and there's something wrong with this you can't go 10 feet without an interruption from a betto backer When is the last time we actually had a quote unquote rock star hello 1980s

1:32:31 Well, it does have a look of that lead guitar player, lead of the cars. Oh, Rick Ocasic? He has a Rick Ocasic goofball look. That's not a rock star! Rockstar... We just need to you know it's I don't know it's just an anachronism. Well it's funny you play that clip because this note goes like this A few things from my perspective down here before I get into the main reason I'm able to support you two in your stellar work One almost every house in El Paso has a freaking Beto sign on their yard. It's cremendrix sales going door to door selling solar. And I'm amazed at the level of support this town throws one after one of their own, that being said they're mostly hypocrites since many of them don't have solar or even want to add it to their homes regardless of Beto

1:33:17 You should change your pitch. Hi, I'm here on behalf of Beto by the way that was funny yesterday I got this I got this text message and I despise this because you know I try not to be tracked at all from a 737 number and it was Hi Adam, it's Georgiana with Beto for Texas. Early voting has started! We're fired up to vote! You can early vote based on public records we think you're registered to vote in Travis County check here for where to early vote when will you vote and so I texted back I said dear Georgiana I'm so sorry to hear this

1:33:54 Ted asked me last week, and I've already made a date with him but maybe next year heart as she replied You said oh that's that's actually pretty funny. Okay? Have a nice day It was like oh that's really That's there's a real human being there they got so much money Oh, 33 million. They got time to be texting with me all day. All right. Anyway he goes on and says now my business my company provides energy and solar solutions in El Paso Texas Las Cruces Albuquerque and Pensacola here currently we are expanding into other markets as well this will see if you use enough energy to benefit uh you get a 30 tax credit goes on He says here's my call-to-action if any no agenda

1:34:36 agenders, and these are surrounding areas. Go solar with my company I'll donate $333 to No Agenda in your name." That's right! An executive producership for saving money and the planet. Wow And it's...and the website is AmericaSol... M-E-R-A-K-I-S-O-L America Sol? No. M-E-R-K-I-S-O L-A-R solutions.com, so it's one word, Merakasolarsolutions.com. Nice URL, geez. Come up with something else for you. They thought Dvorak was hard. Dvorak, you need a jingle! So it's Merak, M-E-R-A-K solarsolutions dot com all in one word and you get a free estimate. He wants the step of preppers poopers blah blah

CHAPTER 22 / 43 Discussion

Donald Silva, Optical Physics and Metaphysics

Sir Donald Silva, an 82-year-old former optical physicist living in Hawaii, shares his interest in metaphysics and the work of David Icke. He describes the physical challenges of coastal erosion affecting his property and his recovery from a stroke.

hawaii· lomi lomi· david icke· reptiles· erosion

1:35:30 Oh, it says John don't shit on solar after you read this piece. Or do! We'll put the link in the show notes thank you. No jingles no karma okay? Thank you very much that's highly appreciated Ryan. Sir Donald Silva in Iwa Beach Hawaii. He sent a check-in with kind of an interesting note I didn't know he's been a nice sir Donald Silver forever He's also NJNK, so I don't have to get prepared. When my wife died in 93 from cancer, I stopped working and helped my mother for a while with her financial finances but then I stopped entirely. I was an optical physicist when I came to Hawaii where... What does an optical physicist do?

1:36:18 He's a guy who deals with the physics of lenses is what I think for one thing. Okay, I came to Hawaii where I probably more than two it than that. I'm sure I came to Hawaii where I haven't learned the healing, the heat. I can't read him as well right? Something about Lomi Lomi healing properties, the holy healing aspect of Lomi Lomi massage and I got interested in Metaphysics, occult knowledge etc. That's why this is our show I thought he was here for the Lomi-Lomi What is it called? Lomi-Lomi Now at 82 Hello Sir Donald I think its over Thinking that I would die two years ago I found that I'm very much alive and thinking about the world at large The best explanation is given by Diego Dega

1:37:14 It's hard for me to get, to read the sentence with a straight face. Even though we like the guy! The best explanation is given by David Icke. Reptiles of course! We're all on board with that hello? I love all beings except the mice that get into my house. I live in...I live 10 feet from the water and it's rising! I've lost 20 feet of my property to the ocean soon Soon the water is called erosion. Will claim my home, which will go first to me or my house? Don't know." My poor handwriting is due to a stroke. It's actually good handwriting compared to most people, stroke or not but I know you like handwritten notes. I'm sorry you lost your job John. Your column was a highlight reading for me

1:38:04 Also, I made it to the end. Aloha! Aloha! Mahalo! It sounded... when you were giggling it sounded like your edibles had finally kicked in Yeah, well no. It's just..I don't know. I just felt like a human being. I like it though, its funny Hey Sir Donald Silva thank you very much is highly appreciated We love hearing from you David Eich and he has been around for a long time so yeah, Dom is great guy He has been a supporter for a long time Thomas Wolfarth In Hendersonville, North Carolina 23456 this puts me over for knighthood. I'd like to be knighted sir puck of the Western North Carolina accounting to Sir dick bangs of DC

CHAPTER 23 / 43 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Culinary Tangents

The hosts perform a knighthood ceremony for several producers while digressing into topics such as the Berkey water filter's popularity in Austin and the proper technique for cooking risotto. John Dvorak argues that French and Italian chefs do not understand rice as well as Iranians.

knighting· gaddafi· alex jones· berkey water filter· risotto

1:38:46 adequate name for Washington, D.C., where he's from $222. Saw the Beagle and knew what to do in Heidelberg Germany I work for work I was interested in seeing Patrick Henry barracks where my grandfather was stationed when my father and uncle were children about 60 years ago unfortunately now it's no go zone Somali refugee camp if only Gaddafi and his African refugee immigration plug we're still there thanks Hillary And for that inside knowledge, thank you to Need Human Resource Karma number three baking. The new karma sidebar I'm an Eagle Scout. There you go. To a DC Jesuit high school not many of us thanks for the sanity not to be read on the show and it goes on. Yeah. The little inside information that will... Yes! Thank you very much Sir Dick Bangs and what he wanted human resource karma and new home karma its packaged in one for ya right here

1:39:45 You've got karma. Uh, if you can scrounge up some vintage seed man that would be aces. Goat karma for all Sir Tim of the Tunnels! These are pigs! Wait wait I want to do a different one... uh what was it this one? Uh yeah here we go this is good and which which karma did he need oh goat karma right okay my god for 25 years they've been growing babies in cows! You got

1:40:38 By the way, Alex Jones doing very well in Austin now with his Berkey water sales just flying off the shelf Oh, I'll bet they are. This is a bonanza for him! Yes... Then they laughed! Uh-huh Yeah they laughed. Most of these water deals are not anything to brag about. The Berkey is an outstanding product. Yeah it does because its a full real deal It's not like a cheapy. Its not just like a filter To make your water taste better Right right Which is what I use. I use zero water, which is the best tasting water. Zero water in there and you refrigerate it and its absolutely delicious much better than Evian. And much better than risotto. Risotto... You gotta keep stirring it you know? It's very labor intensive There is a shortcut methodology that actually works.

1:41:36 One of these British chefs dreamed up and you gotta do it the official way. Keep adding the liquid, keep adding stirring. Alright John we get it I'm not making risotto. Josh Dahoney in Pennington New Jersey $200 ITM fellas, thank you for the years of hard work research time and effort. You are my standard for news! There is no better podcast in the universe please de-douche me and send my amazing wife Melissa some job karma thanks Thank you so much that's very sweet of you. You've been de-douched Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs!

1:42:22 Sir Bruce in Doylestown, Pennsylvania 200. Happy 11th! Look at what you're doing hope you continue in good health this donation makes me a baronet no accounting below because I don't remember any of it Night in November 2014, folder Love the Hair NJNK Sir Bruce. We will add your title later in our ceremony thanks you know it's on the list yes thank you and last is Anushka Wardi in Lafayette California right up the street from me It has been about a year following The NA Show I didn't see you at The Meetup Love it. Born and raised in Holland, Adam's English with the Dutch accent is the best!

1:43:09 And I agree. That was my Dutch, that was just my pure Dutch. Now living close to John for the past 29 years and I have a kid in UT Austin University of Texas. That's right Also a little bit of political junkie so between your show The TPO Podcast and No Spin News plus your fun San Francisco Bay Area and Austin local updates...I'm happy camper thanks guys! Thank you very much i'm gonna give her a karma for that very nice You've got Karma She at the meetup Come to the meetup! Meet up. All right, that concludes our producers executive and an associate for show 1080 of a special anniversary donations. Thank everyone for helping us out there today it was great yeah it's very nice list and I love reading the stories and what I like reading the most is people consistently saying you did something that helped me with my psychology with just living better and happier That gets me up has been getting me

1:44:12 from bed, 11 years long. Otherwise he just sits there and cries. That's right curled up in a ball that's right stirring my risotto so really appreciate all of these executive producers and associate executive producers I think you should be able to say i am the executive or associate executive producer the 11th anniversary show of the No Agenda podcast. That is your official credit for this one, so go out and display that proudly wherever credits are accepted because they will be recognized if not we're happy to vouch for you! We'll be thanking more people it's quite a nice list for our eleventh anniversary in our second donation segment and of course we will have eleven years and one episode 1081 coming up on Sunday remember us for that episode at vorac.org

1:45:01 Slash and a hidden people in the mouth for 11 years. You go out and propagate it. Our formula is this we go out, we hit people in the mouth. And as usual for these kinds of celebrations, we will carry it over to Sunday. So if anybody still wants to get in and give some praise from us will definitely be look forward to that

1:45:40 Okay, we have... By the way before we wait stop. Yeah I'm stopping you know okay? Okay now You're gonna be stirring this our boar rice or whatever they write. Yes, you gotta use that right rice correct a boring especially yeah That's stuff though Italian especially should be from Italy yes And then you're gonna need some very good Parmesan. Yes, got that. You have very good Parmesan? No I have parmesan Willow sends me parmesan several times a year from Italy Oh yeah oh yeah and you poo-poo! You're not tasting my risotto ever. I don't care okay I wouldn't mind tasting the parmesan she sent you She probably sends you some if you're nice to me

1:46:25 Or maybe if I'm mean to you, should send me some. Give it a shot! Do you have more critique about the result? Well yeah... Stir it and stir it endlessly This is not the idea of cooking to me It's the idea of agony. There are so many... Both the French and the Italians, to be honest about it do not know how to cook rice The Iranians are the people who perfected how to cook rice I am neither

CHAPTER 24 / 43 Discussion

Jamal Khashoggi, Turkish Geopolitics and Pipelines

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has leveraged the investigation into the death of journalist Jamal Khashoggi to increase his influence in the Middle East. The situation highlights Turkey's strategic role as a hub for Russian and Iranian energy pipelines into Europe, while Erdogan calls for the suspects to be tried in Turkish courts.

jamal khashoggi· recep tayyip erdogan· turkey· saudi arabia· pipelines

1:47:03 The foot bone's connected to the ankle bone, and the ankle bones connected to the shinbone. And the shinbone is connected to the knee bone and the knee bone is connected to the thigh bone Yep he's all together looks like that's Koshogi Chris Wilson. We have the official pronunciation, we've been trying to figure this out. No we haven't! Yes we do! We have the official pronunstication of Khashoggi. You said Jamal Khashoggi was a not-a good guy. Jamal Khashoggi. There you go. Jamal Khashoggi is now the official no agenda pronunciation of the name

1:47:50 Even though I have this guy is still on the air Jamal Khashoggi and so the official way to pronounce it is Jelmal Cheshik, cheshekji. No, cham... jemal, jamal kheshekji That's the official way. Okay I want you to pronounce it that way from now on Oh i wanna do Sharpton's Way! Okay, jemel, jemal khashekdi, khasekji, khasekji, khasekji I thought it was shishogi No its Khashekji Or Shoshie It's not, no I've heard a thousand different ways Khashekji Jamal Khasuji Khusiji

1:48:28 Okay, doesn't really matter. Hey there's a lot going on as I predicted now the world is starting to come into action Now we're seeing the real players behind this Angela Merkel looking at hers as part of propagating this trying to cut the Saudis out of everything and And Erdogan is he is loving this He has now become the central figure in the Middle East Whereas he really had no power against the crown prince. So look at who's now all of a sudden his friend, we've got of course Iran and they have a border that been very you know 30% of people in Turkey are Iranian and there is huge proportion of Turks in Iran. Qatar

1:49:16 Who they are bailing out the Turkish economy. They just put 15 billion... And they hate Saudi Arabia! Well, Saudi Arabia hates them too and then Syria and with this comes Putin and the Russians And this is beautiful because who is the central switching station for all the pipelines that we've been looking at? It's Turkey. You want to get into Europe, you can go through Turkey with Iranian oil, with Russian oil and he is loving this! He now... and that's why he's coming up with all kinds of fantastical stories and there is a technicality here that I was incorrect about

1:49:56 I thought that embassy ground is sovereign territory. It's not, and i've been corrected by many people... Well then why don't they go bust in and grab Julian Assange? Answer me that. Well first of all here's an interesting rub The host country is completely responsible for the safety of the embassy and anyone in it. So technically, the Turks are responsible for whatever happened to Khashoggi, Cemal Khashoggi They cannot enter the embassy without head of mission permission, which they did receive. So I'm just saying that a crime committed that would be acceptable in Saudi Arabia done at the embassy in Turkey is not – although I don't know what they do in Turkey – they may behead people just not as openly as Saudis do

1:50:52 that is punishable by the laws of the host country. So, that's just a technicality. Let me see, I'm going to start because a lot of people started coming out and talking about this. I would say we stick with Erdogan for second. This is France 24. Erdogan made no reference to alleged audio and video recordings of the murder which had been mentioned in the Turkish press instead putting their onus on the Saudis to provide answers as to who had ordered the assassination And asking that they identify the alleged local collaborator who said to have disposed of Khashoggi's body

1:51:30 The Turkish president trot carefully, saying that he believed King Salman was sincere when he denied knowledge of the murder. But making no direct mention of his regional rival, the influential crown prince. Turkey expert Doroteh Schmid told France 34 that Erdogan's speech shows his main concern is his domestic audience showing that he has trust in the king himself to put things in a different way with his son, to arrange the power relationship inside the house of Saudis. This is an internal matter for the Saudis to do but what matters for Erdogan more is to show that he's the master in Turkey also and that the sovereignty of Turkey has to be respected

1:52:16 Upping pressure on the kingdom, Erdogan said there would be an independent Turkish investigation into the incident. Adding that their 18 suspects should be tried in Turkish courts. So my takeaway from this clip is that Erdogan is calling for a form of regime change saying, hey I get along with the king fine but you know this mofo this kid here he's got to get out of there which everyone wants because right now he is speaking on behalf of Sunni Muslims and all in the Middle East. I think Trump is a bit on board with this here's a short clip of him It was carried out poorly and the cover-up was one of the worst in the history of cover ups. He's an expert on cover ups, I think it's odd. Very simple. Huh? Go ahead! Bad deal should have never been thought of somebody really messed up and they had the worst cover up ever And where it should have stopped is at the deal standpoint when they thought about it because whoever thought of that idea I think he's in big trouble

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Jared Kushner, Van Jones Interview on Saudi Arabia

Jared Kushner appeared on CNN for a rare interview with Van Jones to discuss the U.S. relationship with Saudi Arabia following the Khashoggi killing. Kushner emphasized the need to wait for facts while maintaining strategic interests, despite acknowledging the deceptive nature of Middle Eastern politics.

jared kushner· van jones· cnn· mbs· saudi arabia

1:53:21 So there's Trump trying to, because I'm sure he was really caught off guard with this. He is trying to deflect and say well whoever came up with it that guy is in big trouble not the Saudis who shouldn't be blocking that cause we got too many... This is all dependent upon his real deals with the Saudis for petrodollar maintenance, although he wants it to the price of oil to be lower. Also the biggest deal ever that he wants to complete the Palestine-Israel two state solution and this got... This is so important they're so off caught off guard that Jared Kushner came out and did an interview with all people Van Jones

1:54:05 On CNN, this is a rare moment when you hear the Kushberg speaking. You're going to try to get to the facts do you trust the Saudis to investigate themselves? I mean it seems like MBS is like the prime suspect he's also their prime investigator and do you trust the Saudis to sort this out Like I said, we're getting facts in from multiple places and then once those facts come in the Secretary of State will work with our national security team to help us determine what we want to believe and what we think is credible. Help us with what we want to believe... ...think it's not credible Even Trump says there's like deception and lies Do you see anything that seems deceptive?

1:54:47 I see things that are deceptive every day. I see them in the Middle East, I see them in Washington and so again we have our eyes wide open. The President is focused on what's good for America, what are our strategic interests You know, where do we share interests with other countries? Let's work towards those. But yeah every day we deal with people who are trying to deceive us in different ways but our job is to see through it but also to stay focused on what's best for the American people and The president's fully committed to doing that blah blah blah blah blah, but he's in trouble because his big good friends with MBS mr Bonesaw back-to-France 24 this is Marietje schackens suddenly shaka

CHAPTER 26 / 43 Discussion

Marietje Schaake, EU Arms Embargo Proposals

Dutch MEP Marietje Schaake and German Chancellor Angela Merkel have called for an EU-wide arms embargo against Saudi Arabia. The proposal includes potential sanctions under a Magnitsky-style framework, targeting the assets and travel privileges of Saudi officials involved in human rights violations.

marietje schaake· european parliament· angela merkel· arms embargo· magnitsky act

1:55:28 I do not like this woman. She's Dutch, she is a member of European Parliament... ...she is from the D66 party in the Netherlands The reason why don't like her well first of all the D66 party are bunch of just wishy-washy white milk toast I guess but she's all she seems to do because I'm I check the tweeters she's only on Twitter all day commenting on Trump and this and that just spewing and not even reading articles, just translating the headlines. This is an outrage! Crazy why do Americans put up with him? I'm like go do some business in the European Parliament...and she is telling us exactly what's happening The continuation of what has been called for in the US

1:56:14 Congress, the Magnitsky Act. She may even reference it directly here but if not it's exactly what they're calling for so they can shut off Saudi Arabia and have their own little deals with Russia and with Iranian oil that have been working on it for months. If you look at the irrational behavior and lie after lie after lie after lie coming from Riyadh over the past couple of weeks... It is entirely irresponsible to sell war weapons to this country. And she's talking about EU selling war weapons, the French and the Brits big discussion about this not just our deal but there are lots of deals it turns out. Yeah they've got a lot of money they buy a lot of stuff. To these authorities and I think that it is very good that Chancellor Merkel has taken the lead and I would have preferred to see in EU wide embargo which is something that we have called for in the European Parliament repeatedly already especially in the context of the war in Yemen

1:57:07 So I hope again we will reach a turning point here and we'll see more rational behavior. And at least, we will cease to export instability to Saudi Arabia and weapon embargo but also an embargo on selling surveillance equipment with which dissidents and journalists are being tracked and traced in the kingdom is also absolutely appropriate And then lastly, we would also call for human rights sanctions. Meaning that those individuals who are responsible for this brutal murder will be individually held to account. Visa bans... We can see asset freezes so that there's no more fun time shopping in Paris or putting yachts in Nice or children in good European universities There have to be consequences for the individuals that are responsible

1:57:51 and the impunity with which violations have been taking place, human rights violations that were serious before this murder for a very long time. It has to stop." No more shopping trips to Paris! No more yachts in French harbors! I wish you could make fun of her accent, but it's actually pretty good. Can't do it with her So that's the plan and Merkel is leading its Merkel best friends with Putin they were in East Germany together at the same time This is not our friend And she is really working very hard to Effectively ruin the petrodollar. I think that is the ultimate plan they want Iranian oil anything they can get from Russia

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Mohammed bin Salman, Public Statement and CIA Involvement

Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) made his first public statement regarding the Khashoggi murder, calling it a "heinous crime" and vowing cooperation with Turkey. Meanwhile, CIA Director Gina Haspel traveled to Turkey to review evidence, including alleged audio recordings of the incident.

mbs· gina haspel· cia· riyadh· turkey

1:58:35 sell it all to China, they'd love to have it in Euro denomination and I think Trump is screwed on this. I do not see how he gets out of it." Well MBS is already backpedaling To an extreme. Do you have a copy of his speech that he gave at the... No, I don't have that. Oh good! Do you have a clip or just a copy? This is no this is MBS makes statement this was on PBS ran this over the weekend. Fantastic! Yesterday afternoon Saudi Arabia's crown prince declared today that the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi was a heinous crime and he promised justice

1:59:12 Mohammed bin Salman addressed an investment conference in Riyadh. It was his first public statement since the Saudis acknowledged that Khashoggi was killed at their consulate in Istanbul, Turkey and suspicions have been raised that the prince might have known about the plot We know that many are trying to use this painful thing to drive a wedge between Saudi Arabia and Turkey. This wedge will not happen, and we will prove to the world that the two governments are cooperating to see all perpetrators taken to court and justice will be seen in the end." Yeah he's gone! I'm gonna tell you this guy will be gone there'll be a new crown prince appointed He is out! He is out, he has done, he has gone, he screwed it up big time! He's done

1:59:56 He cannot rule anymore and I don't think, I think that Merkel and Putin... by the way Sir Gene was away he came back and he said that he listened to the so-called press conference where Putin was slamming America as at the end of our days. The Empire is dying And so Gene said, actually he's really complimentary about Trump. It's not like that at all if you listen to it in context. I haven't gotten a full translation but he says it's not surprising. I know wrong to the public here and

2:00:35 Of course we have this little tidbit which if you think she's on a Nancy Drew mission to solve crimes, you got another thing coming. Gina Haspel the head of the CIA is in Turkey today to investigate Khashoggi's killing at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul NPRs Greg Myrie is here to tell us more about that visit Welcome Greg Hey Adi So what is Haspel's role here? Well, she's got a very significant role not only with her title as head of the CIA. This is a place she knows really well We know she speaks Turkish in a rare speech recently She said Istanbul along with London are two of her favorite cities in the world

2:01:13 The CIA never says exactly where somebody spent their undercover days, but she clearly knows this place. She's a player. She knows how things take place there and remember the US Turkey and the Saudis are allies and they're conducting these sort of separate investigations, but there's also negotiations going on. This is probably not likely to end so much in a courtroom as in a political agreement and some sort of negotiation so that's the key thing I think to keep watching. Yeah yeah I'm sure she's there just to investigate really? She's there to lay down the law and try and set them straight and I don't think she has any of the oomph it takes to get anything done this is a bonanza

CHAPTER 28 / 43 Discussion

Khashoggi Forensic Details, European Resolutions

Reports from Istanbul suggest that forensic investigators found evidence related to Jamal Khashoggi in the garden of the Saudi Consul General's residence. Simultaneously, the European Parliament passed a resolution condemning Saudi Arabia's treatment of activists and calling for the release of prisoners like Raif Badawi.

forensic evidence· dna· consul general· european parliament· raif badawi

2:02:00 And I really am curious when the president is going to get serious about it and address it because he is losing our shirt in this deal. Well, he hasn't lost it yet! Meanwhile, pay no attention to the world implications of what is going on. No no! This is what you should be watching Well we've been speaking to a number of sources both very well-placed sources within the investigation and also within political circles and they've been telling us separately first of all that Jamal Khashoggi's body parts have been discovered they had been cut up

2:02:42 I understand there's some fairly grisly detail about how his face had been disfigured somewhat. There is a suggestion... I think they used it as football and kicked it around? From the second source, he is very, very highly placed as I say within political circles and he has connections within the prosecutor's office that those body parts were discovered in the garden of the consul general's We're just outside the property. The Consul General's property was a part of a focus, a very big focus of the forensic investigators they took some time to get into it more than two weeks later we ourselves witnessed some of those forensic investigators examining the garden. We know that they took soil samples from there and that they were trying to match

2:03:45 DNA samples taken of Jamal Khashoggi with samples that they collected inside the Consul General's residence. Where is that rapid DNA technology? This should be done in 20 minutes! They have yet to prove this is the guy who was buried in the guys backyard. Oh yeah, oh yeah... And apparently there are rumors that Gina CIA Gina that she heard or saw the tape That's it. All of this is propaganda, however it just came out the European resolution regarding the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. Let me see... You say Khashoggi forget it! Okay Khashoggi here we go German Chancellor

2:04:42 stated that Germany would put arms exports to Saudi Arabia on hold. So, that's the first one down and this is one of those resolutions which is completely mean we condemn Let's see condemns the Saudi authorities ongoing harassment of human rights defenders activists lawyers journalists clerics writers and bloggers How about podcasters EU put podcasters in there? Yeah, both within and outside the country which undermines the credibility of the reform process of Saudi Arabia Let me see. We urge the EU and its member states to take strong position at the next Human Rights Council meeting, blah blah blah... This is just in so I'm just reading it on the fly Support strongly initiative to create an EU global human rights sanctions regime Okay The Dutch authorities will organize that well no worries there Calls on the Saudi authorities immediately and unconditionally release Raif Badawi So they're asking for prisoners now smart Smart They're asking for people to be released

2:05:44 That's pretty looks like typical Parliament has no power. It's just a resolution okay, but what Angela Merkel did and what may is now being asked to do and Macron is to stop all arms sales that's gonna be very complicated for Trump to say No We're gonna sell them all of our partners who are actually our enemies in this Well, actually Canada says they're gonna keep selling stuff. They don't care well They're not our enemies there right up north now I do have two clips left Unfortunately one of them duplicates a lot of what you know that's how it's I don't mind This is but this is from democracy now so it has a slant that's always amusing This is some funny Khashoggi information with Trump and this is the trump assertion he already played

CHAPTER 29 / 43 Discussion

Donald Trump, "Worst Cover-Up" Commentary

President Trump characterized the Saudi handling of the Khashoggi killing as the "worst cover-up in history," while Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced the revocation of visas for the Saudi operatives involved. The hosts discuss the likelihood of MBS remaining in power by scapegoating the 15-man hit squad.

donald trump· cover-up· mike pompeo· saudi arabia· visas

2:06:33 President Trump spoke out Tuesday on journalist Jamal Khashoggi's murder, calling it the worst cover-up ever. They had a very bad original concept It was carried out poorly What does that mean? A bad original concept What does that mean? Well, I think he saw the draft and he said this is bad. And it's a bad original concept. The original concept we're going to kill this guy now This is another one of those instances that you play this earlier at least the same pretty much the same one uh with his arms crossed because he's pissed He's very angry. Yeah They had a very bad Original concept It was carried out poorly

2:07:19 And the cover-up was one of the worst in the history...of cover ups. It's very simple Bad deal should have never been thought of. Bad deal? I mean you gotta listen with a guy saying, Deal for what? What was the deal? Was there a deal that someone cut a deal or what was the tit for tat part of the deal? Somebody really messed up On Tuesday, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced the U.S. will revoke the visas of Saudi operatives accused of participating in Khashoggi's killing. Pompeo went on to reaffirm the U.S.' shared strategic interests with Saudi Arabia, echoing Trump statements about Saudi Arabia as a strong ally to the United States

2:07:58 Meanwhile, Turkish investigators have reportedly found several suitcases of laptop and clothing that may be linked to the murder in a car belonging to the Saudi consulate. On Tuesday Sky News reported parts of Khashoggi's dismembered body were found in the garden of the Saudi Consul General's Istanbul home though the reports remain unconfirmed. Yeah we just heard that report and it was very sketchy now she presents it kind of as all parts were found but I need some confirmation She's terrible, but which I'll prove later. This is the part two which has some information we didn't get this comes as a Reuters report into Saud al-Qahtani top aid for Mohammed bin Salman the crown prince claims he directed Khashoggi's killing remotely via Skype

2:08:49 Instructing those in carrying out Khashoggi's interrogation and murder to, quote, bring me the head of the dog. Meanwhile in Riyadh, the Saudi royal family met with Jamal Khashoggi's family including his son releasing photos at the highly publicized event to the press. Salah Khashoggi appeared visibly strained as he shook the crown prince's hand. Jamal Khashoggi's children are banned from leaving Saudi Arabia." Now who was it that apparently on Skype said bring me the dog's head. One of these, like the sergeant at arms or some one of the assistants for one of the military assistance... So that guy is going to get killed? Secret service. Here's what I think. I don't think this guy MBS is going to go away the way you do. I'm going to say that I think he's gonna stick around because they really don't have anybody else that can run the country but what he has to do he's gonna have

2:09:42 Grab all 15 of those guys who came in on the plane find them guilty of a rebel or rogue plot. Yeah Find the guy who said well it was they beat him up and he died during the fight that guy yeah, they find him They're gonna line them all up and either shoot him or hang them all or chop their heads off something Then he's gonna say this is the we just was un This is nothing I wanted and he's gonna go on and on like that, and then he's gonna stick around. He's gonna have a bunch of dead guys. You're going to round these guys up? What am I supposed to do? I found all these rogue guys... That would be the strategy I don't think it's going to work. And yeah, I'm happy with having a different opinion Let's put it this way if he stays on Then maybe we'll be okay If there is a quote-unquote regime change and he's replaced or removed

2:10:37 Erdogan takes it, we already have no power in Syria. This is a complete turn of global events that's the way I see it and its...I don't see anyone taking this seriously anywhere Well I think that some people are taking this seriously you wouldn't have Gina floating around Turkey Oh yeah but I'm talking about media like M5M oh the media doesn't they're just looking for some anti-Trump they don't care they've given us nothing They stink That's why were doing this show That's why we have 11 years on this show Because all we do is point out, I mean the real point of the show is we're not Trump apologists. We just point out that the media's not doing its job they just have an agenda that somebody's and I don't know for sure who was behind the agenda but somebody And they just pound into pavement for the same...I mean you played that clip earlier That MSNBC clip with this lunatic Nicole Wallace It was embarrassing

2:11:32 Yeah, this is nothing news about let me play the two clips I have well wait are we are we done with the I don't know Think the sawing noise should be a little louder that remix please. That's Abel Kirby He says I was drunk when I did it The guy screaming with this song going on this perfect Now we have

CHAPTER 30 / 43 Discussion

Amy Goodman, Mike Pence and "Claimed" Language

The hosts deconstruct Amy Goodman's reporting on Democracy Now!, specifically her use of the word "claimed" when referring to Vice President Mike Pence's statements about Venezuelan funding of the migrant caravan. They argue this linguistic choice is a "dirty cheap trick" used to imply a speaker is lying without providing evidence.

amy goodman· mike pence· venezuela· journalism· propaganda

2:12:16 I'm gonna play some stuff that is just filled with propaganda and it's shameful democracy now. Amy Goodman is really an embarrassment this is This is the lashed out clip. Now she doesn't say Trump said this, that some Trump said that... She uses the term, she likes to use these loaded terms. Lashed out! I'm gonna collect them because she says it all the time. Trump lashed out! President Trump— Oh, sorry. I'm sorry you play that clip and then we go to part two. President Trump lashed out again Tuesday at the Central American migrant caravan making its way across Mexico toward the U.S. border claiming Middle Eastern terrorists had infiltrated the group pressed by a reporter Trump admitted he had no proof to back his claim

2:13:07 They say it happens all the time from the Middle East. It's not even saying bad or good, but some real bad ones. But they intercepted during the survey. Well, they could very well be there's no proof of anything. There's no proof of anything. But they could very well be. There is no proof of anything that president said Okay, so he said it twice and she reiterated to make it clear. I don't know what the point of that was no but it was just as good as kind of an offhanded say He said he didn't have any proof but he said it anyway I guess I'm not sure which is getting at this next clip which is the continuation

2:13:46 She uses some loaded language here that I have to point out so people understand when they hear this word, they will pay attention. Vice President Mike Pence claimed Honduran president Juan Orlando Hernandez had spoken to him about the caravan. He told me that the caravan is now making its way through Mexico headed for the southern border was organized by leftist organizations and financed by Venezuelans. Now if you caught the word But the word was at the beginning and the word was claimed. Claimed, of course! Instead of saying Mike Pence said... Oh yeah he claimed that mean automatically meaning it's not true

2:14:27 The right the subtext of the word claimed is always the guy's a liar They're trying to now this is subtle because this people aren't noticing this but there isn't A lot of people like Amy and other so-called progressives that think Trump has gone They think the Democrats are gonna win the house and that Trump is going to get impeached. Yeah, and then Pence will be president and But they gotta get rid, they got to start taking aim at Pence because Pence is worse and they gotta impeach him too. That's what Maxine Waters says. Say we're gonna have Pence? We'll impeach him too! For what?! So there... They're not going to impeach Trump. For being an old white man

2:15:06 They're not going to impeach Trump because he's too much of a foil that they can use. Hold on, let's just set something straight so everyone understands this impeachment is a political process it does not remove the president from office it's basically Congress saying we don't trust you you're a douche you're impeached It doesn't remove him from office The only way they can do that if they have three quarters of the Senate Which never happens which will never happen in US history No. And then the idiot Republicans are like, yeah that's great impeach him then Pence is president he can appoint Trump as his vice president and resign then Trump is president again! I never heard that. It's funny though now let's go back to this what Amy's doing she uses the word claimed and people should look out for this word when it comes up The proper word in a journalistic sense says

2:15:58 You never use claims unless you're trying to twist the meaning of it. You're trying to load it up, make it sound as though the guy's lying and there is no evidence that Pence is even a fibber let alone a liar But keep an eye on that when I hear this sort of thing, it really galls me because these people are on TV. There's a lot of progressives that listen they miss the word but it goes right into your subconscious like the guy Pence claims that he had a discussion with the guy. What, he didn't have a discussion with the guy? If you think that prove he didn't have a discussion with the guy go contact The Honduras Guy and ask him if he talked to Pence and if he says no I never heard of the guy there You got a story you got something but know just by using the word claims a cheap Dow is a dirty cheap muddy trick And it's disgusting

CHAPTER 31 / 43 Discussion

Producer Credits, Douchebag Callouts

A lengthy segment dedicated to acknowledging producers who donated at the $111.11 level. It includes health updates, such as Robert Gusek's spinal fusion surgery, and "douchebag" callouts for non-donating relatives requested by active producers.

jason denney· robert gusek· spinal fusion· douchebag· miami

2:16:57 And I'm gonna show my school by donating to no agenda imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, they'd be fab And we have we have to alert the affiliates The show is running long now by around a little um a little I do have to call out Got my things here where are my notes? All right, let's thank a few people I have somebody to thank that is on a list here, that's on the note sheet. Ah yes! This came in last week, Jason Denney and his wife Kelly, smoking hot wife Kelly they gave 9 from Madison Alabama $90.09 last week and they need some F-Karma cancer and lotto karma

2:17:50 So if you will put that at the end of this list, yeah Arthur go bets $121. Oh he also sent me a little action figure from the character that was in taxi I've never seen which character and taxi the guy you lose talking to me Louie Louis Louis Louis was it Louis You talking to me? I don't know who's talking to me. Oh, taxi driver! Taxi driver. You said taxi. Oh, I said taxi. I'm thinking... oh yeah, De Niro! Yeah but there is a character's name. Arthur Goebbets. Sir Arthur Goebbets, I think. Sir Arthur Goebbets M and Dre 121 11. M and Dre of the Mid Valley $111.11 Mike Rineker in Dubuque Iowa

2:18:41 Congratulations 11 years Keith Gibson $111 lemon sensor Roger on ice in Tampa, Florida Richard force $111 and eleven cents for sir Roger Richard Force in Zoog Our favorite town in Switzerland. Oh, yeah! That's where it all happens... Where all the cryptos happen. It's where everything is going on. Used to be oil now it's cryptos. Al-Ahamadi I'm guessing Arab Emirates What does she say here? Happy anniversary this donation is for five reasons first to celebrate your anniversary then to celebrate three birthdays my smoking hot wife on the 17th she turns 33 My son second birthday of the six and by the time you read this my daughter will have been born on the 25th

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2:22:07 See how you spelling it? C-h-i-t-l-i-n-s. Try c h i t e r It spelled chitterlings and pronounced Chitlins by Jove, you're right! But now I'm gonna say chitterling's instead of Chitlin's Well, don't do that. Right? Try chitlins. Chitlins it is! Thanks for that... I never knew that! Chitterlings. I didn't know. What are chi- isn't chicken something? No. Guzzards guts what is chitlin's? Intestines Guts Not guts well maybe guts. Well whats guts?!

2:22:54 I guess it's kind of guts. Guts, man! Look... I can put it in risotto- And by the way if you have good- anyone who can make good chitlins or good intestines or there is a French duo and everybody does them they're great. I'm doing Chitlins Risotto Don't do yourself a favor So you have to know how to do those things if you're going to do them. Sir Robert, I mean, he'd have to done a lot and figured out the tricks. Sir Robert Tenet in Baronette, Robert Tenet bag of 11s parts unknown sir Hank Scorpio of the electric grid at Jeffrey Anderson in Stewart Florida and Adriana or Porto

2:23:41 Also known, Sir Zachary Baron of the Bluff City in Cordova Tennessee. James Smith and Kelso Washington, Sir Donald Winkler in Berlin Deutschland. James Smith needed a de-douche. You've been de-douche'd. Good catch! Philip Worth in Myerstown Pennsylvania Alexander Beatty Parts unknown, Sir G in Memphis Tennessee. Jonathan Ferris in Liberal Kansas. Jeremy Dixon in Irving Texas. Simon Lebozowski I believe. I'm a knight already? Sir Simon then or he's a half-knight sir never mind. He needs some recovery karma put you at the end there 73's NC4RG

2:24:26 Oh, that's Robert Gusek. It says Robert Gusek. Sir Bob of the dude named Ben. Yeah. And he has special recovery karma for his spinal fusion which is happening today. Jason Jokinen? Sir Austin of the Snowy Cascades in Sammamish Washington? Douglas Kuhlman, parts unknown. Sir...Douglas is actually Sir Wolde of The Falls. Ah yes! So it says Jerry Yonhawker and Bindlestith. Benjamin Garcia in Los Angeles, California? Dude named Ben. He's a dude named Ben. Help desk. Yeah Sir Benjamin then Lamar Martinez.

2:25:17 Looks like he's from I don't know where he's from Baroness Monica. Oh Monica joy still enjoying the show she says thanks Sir Patrick Coble our buddy there in Tennessee did you see how much weight? He lost no that's not Patrick Coble That's foam boy, I'm sorry sing with someone else a cobalt who was never that big oh No, no you need some travel and jobs karma put you at the end Patrick Coble has a Ducati Sir, he's a dude named Ben. He's the guy who is the penetration guy Yes We know him well You know him better than I do Yeah, comes out here all once in awhile to penetrate systems To penetrate John Kumar $111.11 Three more Chris Swimley in Austin Texas and he has got a douchebag callout for somebody Says numero uno please call out my brother Nick as a douche bag DOOCHEBAG

2:26:12 It's been called out several times on this show and he is yet to donate. Oh, well then you don't waste any more douchebagging on him This is not gonna happen Yeah we get we can't but he's the terminal douche bag so forget it Well, he wants to donate in his name to cleanse him of his douchiness Don't know if that's a good idea That's not a good idea man, please go ahead Dame Patricia Worthington in Miami Florida She's been a listener since 2014. She's been around for quite a while. She says she is due for a big title change, but I don't know... Did that happen already? Is that something...? We'll wait! She'll tell us what she wants. Alexander Murkuriev in Nashua New Hampshire who says simply happy 11th. And we want to thank all these people for helping us there on the 11-11-11 thing

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Value-for-Value Model, Show History

Adam Curry and John Dvorak reminisce about the origins of the "value-for-value" funding model, which they adopted early in the show's history. They discuss the transition from the Mevio network to a listener-supported model and the various community-driven projects, like the "Gitmo list," that have sustained the show for 11 years.

value-for-value· podcasting history· mevio· gitmo list· crowdfunding

2:27:00 Onward with the rest of our well-wishers is Maria Patricia Lim, $100. Ian Field 100. Valerie Steensland 100. Simon Elisha Easternwick Australia 100. Ryan Brady 9009 He's got his jobs karma worked for him now. He needs some relationship karma We'll put that at the end for you Merrick Bendikowski in Warsaw, Warsaw Poland nice it wants to send us a Shout out to his smoking hot wife Nina there you go Jake coulda chinny cut it Cheney

2:27:49 Austin, Texas 8215 Brian Kaufman 7575 Scottsdale Arizona Christopher trope trope trop not trope in Sturgis Michigan 5611 sir peep slayer 5555 Carl Madden 5555 these are just half of 11 elevens I think. Yes. Aiko Santima and Houghton. Santima Aiko. Santima Hutton. Netherlands in Houghton, Houghton, Houghton sent them on Houghton Richard Melloy. He does say will John have his chair de squeaked before the 12th? No no you can tell yep like if I get a certain spot it really squeaks Richard Malloy and Greenwich Connecticut sir Strat of

2:28:37 Slardabartfastkeeperofthecrinkybits. Sir, slardabartfastkeeper of crinkly bits. Yeah, Hope Rhode Island Scott Fuller 55 Michael Barco 52 80 in Salem, Oregon Luke Barnes Salem, Oregon What? 5280 what's this is it say anything about why we have two guys from Salem Oregon giving the exact same of that's interesting That's your random. No very random hmm Collusion I think there's collusion Brian Burgess and Pelican Rapids Minnesota

2:29:17 $50.33, David Vossen $50.11 Sir Scott Nelson in Melbourne Florida 50-01 the following people are $50 donors and I give you a name and location in some order Patrick Maycombe Sir Patrick in New York Philip Allen Gingrich 50 Carla Kruger Phillip Dumanian in Canton, Michigan. Joe Winky or Vinki maybe? Winky or wink in Santa Rosa. Bass Bruna... This one I can pronounce it a million years. Hold on where are we

2:30:00 It's number 50... Brownings. Brownings! Brownings and he says it's Ted Kaiser's birthday, he turns eight it's my birthday I turn 39 and Han Kaisers is a douchebag. We got we got yeah we got Boss and Tex on there yes Alex Delgado and Aptos Mark Hackett Jason Van Buskirk in Salem, Oregon. Matt Cheminsky in Hoboken New Jersey Michael Kaufman and Hillsborough Oregon And by the way the smoking hot milf bar will get her call up Michael Kaufmann in Hillsboro Florida Kenneth Lindenburg in Miami Florida Michael Kleckner and Ewing New Jersey And last but not least Stephanie Chodol or is it Chodi?

2:30:56 Former member of the MSM, well this is interesting. She's a former member of the MSM she used to work at Reuters and CNN I totally get what you're saying and applaud you for having that guts to say it You've helped me as I continue to labor my way in media land And I wish you...I could give you more Oh well send us a note from time-to-time Stephanie let us know what's happening Yeah, it won't hurt. I mean if you still touch base with the M5 Emers... I think she's probably still working in the business I want to thank all these folks for supporting us and the 11th anniversary show. And this service, or these people helped produce a show along with a lot of people that gave $49.99 and less, 33% and all the rest which are of course kept anonymous by rule. Yes, by rule! A lot of people congratulated us at the $11.11 level as well.

2:31:50 Yes, you know we got some astral travel and DMT wishes all kinds of good stuff under the 50 level but we keep those We do not mention them as John said mainly for anonymity because that's where you go if you don't want to be mentioned on the show and Yeah, the subscriptions keep those going. And thank you. Thank everybody for 11 years is a value-for-value concept I remember fondly I think it was, when did we start asking for or really start the value-for-value model? Was that the second year first year? I think it was early on. It started early on. I think it was late in the first year. In earnest, in earnest, I think. Well, in earnest...it was always kind of...It was always an earnest. We hadn't developed a value-for-value models and we hadn't figured out what the value-for-value network and how the model works

2:32:41 We were creating that on the fly. I remember, I was in New York on a business trip and you said hey i think this is working people actually like it and they're supporting it And uh...I think that's when I said okay let's do this full time! I think that's when I ate my airplane. I believe your creating new history. It's good story What do you mean? New History Yeah. The eating the airplane? No, the eating the airplane was true because we weren't doing that well as a reason you ate the airplane. It took years! Well yeah it took probably two years You ate the airplane for a lot of different reasons. You're also slightly paranoid at the time

2:33:25 No, I didn't have the money. I'd left Mevio as living in Los Angeles they were paying for health care that's all i was getting from them yeah well so I ate the airplane and then lastly it was tasty flaps not so much no the flaps are always you know you should have to really sauce those up And the point is this is a network where everybody can get out and you should be getting more out of it than you put into It so it could be just the pleasure of listening to the show Having meeting other people with our meetups, but also doing collaborating online There's so many different websites and services micro-services that people have set up from the art generator to

2:34:09 Yeah, this is so what is the the Gitmo? What does the the main list I keep forgetting what it is It's a gitmo list things to call the gitmo list The Noah Jenigitmo list, if you find that you'll see links to the book club and there's all kinds of stuff. And I'm really proud of what everyone has put together and really appreciate it. And i look forward to as long as... another 11 years sure we'll go as long as as we physically can I guess. And probably another eleven years before you ever do your Austin meetup! Hey thanks John! Jobs jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs Karma I want to see you if Willow sends me some cheese for that Man, you interrupted the whole flow just to get some free cheese? You are though you are you're the worst

CHAPTER 33 / 43 Discussion

Birthday Announcements, Knighting Ceremony

The hosts conduct a formal knighting ceremony for producers Troy Thomas, Thomas Wolfarth, Melody Fugazotto, and Brad Lafreniere. They also announce birthdays for community members, including cartoonist Mike Riley, and update the peerage status for several long-time supporters.

knighting· mike riley· birthday· roundtable· peerage

2:35:09 And here is your birthday list for our celebratory 11th anniversary show. Today's the 25th of October 2018, Ala Hamade says happy birthday to his smoking hot wife Misa she turns 33 on November 17 and his son Jad We'll turn to on the 6th of November. Happy birthday, Bosch Browning says happy birthday to Ted Kizer's turning eight and Boss Browning himself is turning 39 we congratulate him and Mark Hackett says happy birthday to his smoking hot milf barb she celebrated October 19th Happy Birthday from everybody here at The Best Podcast in the Universe Now we have nightings... You know I'm remiss okay

2:35:56 One of our artists, Ryan is like having his birthday. Which which Ryan? The good one. I don't know if you remember his last name... Man i can't remember his name! I just sent a note to him about his birthday. Why don't you look it up and then I'll get the nighting started and then you can mention that later. Instead of just stopping the whole flow of the show Okay sorry this my theme today Can you find your sword anywhere Oh, now you got me. Okay here it is I got it luckily it's right here thank you

2:36:36 All right time for some knightings and a daming Here's what we need up on the podium. We need Troy Thomas, Thomas Wolfarth, Melody Fugazotto Brad Lafreniere Oh that's actually yes Brad Lafrenieres all four of you up here on the podium as I am very proud to introduce You and induct you into the roundtable of the no agenda knights and James and I Dames and I hereby pronounce the KD Sir Thomas, Knight of the Rivermark. Sir Puck of Western North Carolina. De Melody Fugazotto! Sir Bradley Blackknight and protector of the outer cyber realm for you hookers and blow we have uh Chicklins in Chardonnay

2:37:19 I didn't have any more time in the music to talk about the sparkling cider and escorts, the ginger ale and gerbils, the breast milk and pablum, the Rubenesque woman and rosé, and of course the mutton and mead. That is all available for you at The Roundtable if you go to noagenthenation.com slash rings Eric the Shill will take your girth measurements the ring, your sealing wax, your certificate out to you as soon as possible and please tweet something out so everybody can see how proud you are and how proud all of us are if you becoming a knight or a dame of the No Agenda Roundtable. Here's the changes sir bon hits and bourbon becomes surpassed night of Sun City As Sir Bruce becomes a baronet and sir John of London also achieving Baronet status today Congratulations to all of you, and for your support of the no agenda show

2:38:15 Did you figure out the Ryan's birthday? I'm an idiot. It's not right in anything is Mike Riley one of our top guys a cartoonist ago did the bone saw yes, Mike Riley should be 43 Yeah, happy birthday Mike on What was it gonna be it's like either as used I think was Monday okay well good so You know there's more personalized this way guess hey there was Steve Steve Tim Collins from Apple Tom Cook, he was in Brussels on a very stupid day actually. He was there to talk about privacy and the internet and privacy...and privacy! And it was a very stupid day for him to be there because all of the you know they have the European Parliament in Brussels then we have the other one in Strasbourg

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Tim Cook, Privacy and Data Industrial Complex

Apple CEO Tim Cook delivered a speech in Brussels criticizing the "data industrial complex" and the weaponization of personal information. Cook advocated for stronger privacy protections, warning that the stockpiling of personal data serves only to enrich companies while narrowing worldviews through algorithms.

tim cook· apple· privacy· brussels· data industrial complex

2:39:15 Right they've been moving back and forth right so he went to Brussels while everybody was voting in Strasbourg, and someone needs to get fired Research area what's his assistant did really stupid I pulled the clip from these talk to an empty hall now There was a probably about 300 people there if that no Less I say maybe 150 it was very pathetic his message was clear And and I liked what he said and sounded like a man who was very frustrated With what is being done with his product as well. He had some good zingers in there I clipped about two minutes of it I'd like to share the desire to put profits over privacy is nothing new As far back as 1890 go go your Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis

2:40:04 published an article in the Harvard Law Review making the case for a right to privacy in the United States. He warned, gossip is no longer the resource of the idle and of the vicious but has become a trade today that trade has exploded into a data industrial complex Our own information from the everyday to the deeply personal is being weaponized against us with military efficiency. Every day, billions of dollars change hands and countless decisions are made on the basis of our likes and dislikes, our friends and families, our relationships in conversations, our wishes and fears

2:40:59 our hopes and dreams. These scraps of data, each one harmless enough on its own are carefully assembled synthesized traded and sold taken to its extreme this process creates an enduring digital profile and lets companies know you better than you may know yourself Your profile is then run through algorithms that serve up increasingly extreme content, pounding our harmless preferences into hardened convictions. If green is your favorite color you may find yourself reading a lot of articles or watching a lot of videos about the insidious threat from people who like orange

2:41:52 In the news, almost every day. We bear witness to the harmful even deadly effects of these narrowed worldviews we shouldn't sugarcoat the consequences this is surveillance And these stockpiles of personal data serve only to enrich the companies that collect them. Now, first I need to mention that was twice as long. I cut out every pause that he puts in his speech this guy needs a kick in the pants like stop talking like this boring well when it's edited out like that It sounds very free-flowing and professional. I must be 20 edits

2:42:40 Just chopping out silence everywhere. So of course he is advocating for what I've been saying a long time, you need to go OTG and the main thing you can do to save yourself from this tracking is remove location-based tracking from your life and I'm not talking about the cell company being able to track my little sorry Nokia E71 because of course they can do that but everything else inside your phone which is what he's so... He sees..I think he sees the writing on the wall Like people are gonna start giving this up. We see more and more of these, hey it's a weekend thing take this phone just as text and you know he's seeing his product being abused but of course it's meant to be abused that's what is he's got an abusive product with his mobile devices And I do like the data industrial complex although I think data is the new bacon is better but then it's a little scarier that way and just to fold into a quick OTG a couple headlines

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Surveillance Tech, Connected Thermometers and Car Tracking

A series of reports highlight invasive data collection practices, including Amazon Alexa patents for detecting illness via voice and Kinza connected thermometers selling fever data to pharmaceutical companies. Additionally, General Motors was found to be monitoring the radio listening habits of 90,000 drivers to sell data to advertisers.

alexa· kinza· general motors· google news· data tracking

2:43:39 Amazon's Alexa has, they filed a patent and the patent specifically states that the Alexa spy device in your house if it hears you coughing or sniffling it may be able to sell you some ads for what is ailing you. And they filed a patent for that I guess that was necessary This was a pretty interesting story about this and I've seen this. This was actually at H-EB, and I looked...I remember looking at it once. I need to pick up a thermometer and Tina and I moved in together And we didn't have one for some reason. I don't know. We didn't have a thermometer amongst us so there's the this connected thermometer

2:44:21 Turns out the connected thermometer was licensing information. This is Kinza is the name of the Connected thermometer company to pharmaceutical companies with zip codes and Temperatures that people had around the country so that they could target their advertising by oh, it looks like we got yeah I'm wondering why anyone Anyone would buy a connected thermometer because you get an app with it and then they think oh, it's great I can track the progress of my fever. I don't know people are idiots So you get that but in the meantime? The app itself is just backdooring stuff to pharmaceuticals To sell you stuff and target you with ads

2:45:06 Now it turns out, this is a great one. General Motors according to the Detroit Free Press their radio tracking program monitored the listening habits of 90 thousand drivers in Los Angeles and Chicago for three months in late 2017 GM captured details such as station selection volume level zip codes of vehicle owners used the car's built-in Wi-Fi signal to upload the data to its servers This is insane! And they're selling that to... Why would they sell the data to Nielsen? Well, they're selling it to uh.. To the radio networks themselves. Uh and then what else I had oh and let's see yeah What else did i have there was a couple other stories also this I don't have it of course I don't have an app phone but the new google news for android Is going wild on data

2:46:06 And people are seeing up to 21 gigs of data transferred from the Google News app. Who knows what it's doing? This is not good! This is all bad stuff. Hey, It's great man... You should not have any of this I get advertising that's custom made for me. I like the idea that I get an ad An ad that's relevant. It's relevant. Relevant for ME. So our Candanavian brothers and sisters just got a raw deal up there, up north. As you know there were four provinces who voted against a carbon tax of course why would you want to be taxed for something that comes out here? I should mention that in the Washington state ballot there's a carbon tax initiative on there and according to Mimi who is involved in the politics it'll pass all for it. And apparently the argument of the old ladies as well

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Justin Trudeau, Canadian Carbon Tax Rebates

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced a federal carbon tax for Canadian provinces that refused to implement their own, promising that the revenue would be returned to citizens via rebates. Critics argue the plan is "completely idiotic," questioning how taxing fuel and then returning the money will effectively reduce climate change.

justin trudeau· canada· carbon tax· rebates· fossil fuels

2:47:06 Yeah, it's not that great but at least it's something So so they've done something Trudeau has done something very interesting And I'm sure we'll get lots of notes from our Candanavian producers. So these four major Provinces said no, we're not gonna do a carbon tax. So Trudeau just created a federal carbon tax on But he's trying to sell it. Well, listen to how he is trying to sell it. In Toronto today Prime Minister Justin Trudeau laid out the details of his government carbon tax plan including rebates as he tries to sell Canadians on the need to pay for pollution without breaking the bank. We take you to Ottawa now Michelle Boye-Fa Notice the use of pollution? Pollution? It's not pollution. Following story for us so Michele tell us a little bit more about the plan anyway and how much money he's talking about in terms of giving back to Canadians

2:47:57 April, that is when this plan comes into effect for large polluters as well as you when you go to fill up your gas tank or when you turn on the heat. It's going to cost Canadians more but the federal government is coming up with a plan to make sure that you get most if not all or more of the money back we're talking about rebates from $259 all the way up to six hundred and nine dollars per year and that those numbers balloon as we go down the road to twenty twenty two. That's because of the cost on carbon, the price on carbon will be going from 20 up to 50 dollars a ton. Justin Trudeau says listen this is the only way... Hey by the way

2:48:45 That's 50 Canadian dollars? No, the price of carbon we've known for a long time has been pegged by the globalists at $50 US. So to say you're gonna raise it to 50 Canadian dollars, uh-uh. It's gotta be a little higher than that. ...up to $50 a tonne Justin Trudeau says listen this is the only way that Canada will reduce its carbon footprint will reduce its emissions and he says that he's helping Canadians adjust to the new norm by giving them the money back... It's completely idiotic! He saying

2:49:24 We're gonna have a carbon tax, and it'll be on all fossil fuels. And so that will be at the gas pump and your electricity is all going to be taxed but we're going to give you credit back based upon what we think that increase will be." He's positioning it as don't worry! You just get the money back and then somehow that's going to reduce climate change This is insane I don't know what the Canadians must be thinking, this guy's an idiot. There should be a revolution about this! A revolt? Yeah how about voting that idiot out of office?! Oh my goodness... He's like a 12 year old running the place and people bitch about Trump. I got a cool little operation- Since we're talking about this right now, I do have something here that is kind of interesting This I believe first I heard it and said oh that's interesting apparently Lexus is the best car you can buy

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Consumer Reports, Native Advertising in News

The hosts analyze a CBS News segment featuring Consumer Reports' reliability survey as a potential "native ad" for Lexus and Toyota. They point out the suspicious framing of the story, which highlighted Lexus's top ranking while specifically slamming competitors like Volvo and Tesla.

consumer reports· lexus· toyota· native advertising· cbs news

2:50:20 Everyone knows that. But the way they present this fact consumer reports thing on CBS. I think that CBS is pulling out native ads on us in ways that are, that I have not been able to pick up on the ABCs real easy and said this always at the same time of the show it's right there and its pretty sounds like a native ad looks like a native ad this one actually actually I had to pull it out just as kind of a joke clip and then I listened to it And I said, this is a native ad and I wasn't catching it. I think CBS is doing native advertising on their news hour with Jeff Glor more than we think Jonathan Lincove tests cars for a living He's in the driver seat for Consumer Reports Determining which automakers are the most reliable and how critical? Is reliability when it comes to an automaker's long-term success or a model of success reliability

2:51:17 is the key thing that's going to keep a customer coming back. Consumer Reports annual reliability survey collected data on everything from the engine and transmission to the doors and electronics, 29 automakers were ranked and U.S. companies didn't fare well Ford was the top American brand at number 18 Asian manufacturers did the best. Toyota came in second and Lexus, which is owned by Toyota took the number one spot We took a spin in a Lexus RX 350 Consistently Toyota and Lexus have been our top two brands in our brand report card Problems with infotainment systems tripped up other automakers including Volvo which landed at the bottom

2:52:01 bottom of the list. Their large infotainment system has caused problems, it's crashed its hung, um it had a reset on owners Tesla dropped six spots to 27th this year if you look at the g wiz factor It's got what they okay? Lincove had problems getting the wing doors toe open on the model X SUV which scored poorly That's a big problem that we've seen. They're not always working, they're not latching, they're not opening up all the way." Lynne Cove says reliability is just one consideration when purchasing a new car. Performance and price should also factor into the final decision Kenneth Craig CBS News Colchester Connecticut So let me try and deconstruct it The way to add by goes is

2:52:47 Consumer Reports, which is a non-commercial entity. They do a report they have the car up in the position that Lexus wants it and then they buy the CBS analysis of the report You think you think it's that way because I would think it's different Okay I would think that the CBS sales guys... Oh by the way wear brown shoes Brown shoes don't make it. Brown shoe sales guy is always brown shoes, so he's got the brown shoes sales guy. He's got to consume because they're always having these meetings I know people that are professional high end salespeople and they're always having these meetings there or how we going

2:53:31 How can we leverage this into that? How can we get these guys on board for a big buy?" And I would think it'd go this way, and I could be wrong because any number of ways it could happen. You got to look at the Consumer Report thing has got Lexus and Toyota as the same company. Can we sell them... We're not going to do a story on this are we Jeff? No! Who's gonna do a story on that is stupid. Okay, let's go to Lexus and see if we can sell them that. We'll do a story highlighting the Consumer Reports article and we'll mention them like lots of drive their car around." It's similar yeah I think that would be the way to sell it. I think Toyota is very aggressive at advertising And they say yes sounds great Can you also mention that Volvo is like the lousiest one on this list? Because two cars they slammed by the way

2:54:19 The Tesla? Specifically slammed was not just any old uh, Tesla. It was the Tesla SUV and the Volvo they slammed was a Volvo SUV and the car they drove around in was a Lexus SUV! Yeah... And you're surprised?! No I'm not surprised. I'm surprised i haven't caught this earlier. I know we must be doing this constantly Hey, I haven't caught something that just want and I'd have a couple of funny hate Trump clips Just to end on a high note We've been looking at the Congo DRC Democratic Republic of Congo. What is going on there? Why do we have why or why are people being sent there? Why do you have all kinds of stuff going on for some reason? I follow tanker trackers calm and

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Israel-Congo Oil Trade, Ebola Concerns

Tanker tracking data revealed a shipment of 850,000 barrels of crude oil from the Democratic Republic of Congo to Ashkelon, Israel. This unusual trade route bypasses traditional Middle Eastern sources, occurring amidst ongoing concerns regarding the Ebola outbreak in the Congo.

israel· congo· crude oil· ashkelon· ebola

2:55:08 Yeah, where's our head economic hit man? Well check this out so tanker truck I got into this when I got into a PRS and you know the ham radio Beaconing systems although APRS is for much more than beaconing So yeah the AIS And you can track ships and so tanker trackers calm posted. This one they post this It was earlier this month So here it is, a first 850 thousand barrels of crude oil arrived in Ashkelon that's Israel this morning from Jano Congo. We have never seen Congo as a source of oil for Israel before but we have seen a couple shipments come in from West Africa during the summer How about that? Eight hundred and fifty thousand barrels is a good start

2:56:02 It's a good medium-sized tanker. So they're taking that from... and Israel is buying this. Well, the Congo is landlocked if I'm not mistaken how are they getting it to the port? They're taking it down or there's picture here actually they take it down to well no that's not true well yeah they have to go to Gabon was it can't see it here it's from the west coast and they go all the way around the top of Africa through the Straits of Gibraltar through the Mediterranean to get to Israel. Circumventing, of course, the Djibouti, there's the Aden Gulf and where all that crap is going down so they are...they're going....so it's just probably a less dangerous route for them I don't know about pirates but yeah they're taking it right through you know right off the southwest coast and they're going all the way around the top. So Congo's an oil producer? Apparently!

2:57:08 We gotta look into this. Well, I brought it up as a mention as hey this is where we need to focus our attention. Ebola! Yes and we Ebola there send lots of people there to help with...I don't know the transport of the oil to the coast who knows? Get it out of there before the oil catches Ebola. All right, a couple media clips to hate Trump this was a story news story you heard about when it comes to eggs oops not that one afternoon A Florida man is facing federal charges accused of groping a woman on a flight to Albuquerque as he was being arrested He had something interesting To say about the president news 13's Rachel Knapp is live in The News Plex with this story

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Supergirl TV Show, Climate Change Propaganda

A clip from the television show *Supergirl* is analyzed as blatant political propaganda aimed at children. The scene features a presidential spokesperson mocking those who doubt global warming, equating the belief to knowing that 2+2=4 and that the Earth is round.

supergirl· climate change· propaganda· hollywood· programming

2:57:48 Kim, an FBI agent says as Bruce Alexander was sitting in the back of his police car he told them quote The President of the United States says it's okay to grab women by their private parts. Okay That was a great news story sounds totally legit here we have the Lear Hollywood Foundation at work in the Supergirl television show this is for children And let me see, this is season three I believe you are here in season three. This is so Supergirl

2:58:24 This is a in the in the cartoon this is the spokesperson for the president of the United States of America and The president is a woman and here's what the spokesperson that so these Sarah Huckabee Sanders of the future In Supergirl world when the president is female Yeah Yes, Carl. As a matter of fact she does She also believes that 2 plus 2 equals 4 and that the earth is round because the president is not a moron Any third grader knows that global warming is the biggest threat of our time And I'm happy to report that the intellectual capacity of our president Is no inferior to that of an 8 year old Next question

2:59:07 It's reverse. It's a great way to program the children that is disgusting isn't that fantastic I'll give you clip of the day for that one You know and I have to say when I heard it, and I didn't find it myself one of our producers did I said? It's a candidate Thank you very much Well, thanks to the producer who found it. Wow! That is a piece of crap if I've ever heard a propagandistic... It makes my analysis of Damie Goodman look like a lightweight Let's do it let's play it again just so we can revel in it Okay Carl Does President Marston believe climate change is real? Uh yeah Yes, Carl. As a matter of fact she does She also believes that 2 plus 2 equals 4 and that the earth is round because the president is not a moron Any third grader knows that global warming is the biggest threat of our time And I'm happy to report that the intellectual capacity of our president Is not inferior to that of an 8 year old Next question You will obey Oh man! I love that Then although I am not pulling the clip that everyone showed

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Rosie O'Donnell, MSNBC Interview and "Trump Effect"

Rosie O'Donnell appeared on MSNBC to discuss her visceral reaction to Donald Trump's presidency and his treatment of women like Stormy Daniels. The discussion introduced the concept of the "Trump Effect," claiming that his rhetoric has emboldened racists and misogynists to express their views publicly without the "sheets" of the KKK.

rosie o'donnell· nicole wallace· kkk· misogyny· stormy daniels

3:00:09 Rosie O'Donnell was on MSNBC on the hate fest with Nicole Wallace and I pulled two clips just to let you know where her head's at. And you have to understand that in this interview she was very affected by the election of President Trump, she couldn't go out in public... well first she said she got physically ill, she puked when he became president and she couldn't go out in the public for over a year now she's marrying a 32-year old woman who looks like an Instagram wife if I've ever seen one but she's still filled with a lot of hate and misinformation. Not only thought that it was strategically smart to go after the adult film star Stormy Daniels in such a visceral way he workshopped the insult prior to tweeting it well before Trump mocked Daniels physical appearance

3:00:58 trial ballooned the horse face dig privately among White House aides, close friends and acquaintances. One source close to Trump even recalled him saying in passing that bleeping horse face." Steve, Rosie and Eugene are still here. I read these things and I'm shocked but i'm guessing you're not? I am not shocked! No he'll do anything and everything to get what he wants and women are of no value to him and his life or world the only one who is I think it's daughter That's it. The rest of the women in the world are useless as the immigrants that he says are coming from, you know Honduras to take us and caravans watch out for the caravan there were people walking away from certain death in third world countries right?

3:01:38 Right, right. The man doesn't care at all so what he did to Stormy Daniels was horrific what he did to me was horrific but I expected when that was happening the National Organization of Women or something would come out and say you can't do this You're not just allowed to pick a woman lie and you know debase her with impunity But he is He is and he gets laughs for it And its like a bad stand up comic Well, she's right about that. About the stand-up comedy but do we have that on the rotation? He hates women I didn't know he hated women. I don't think it's on the rotation. Now she makes a... No misogynist is hating women. This is in the rotation. Yes it is by definition misogynist you got its woman

3:02:20 This is something, another assertion she makes which I found interesting. I want to ask you because this question goes around questions of race we talked about this after Charlottesville that now the KKK members don't wear sheets over their face. The Trump effect... I just want to understand what Nicole Wallace is saying here. She's saying that Trump is so racist, he's such a white nationalist the Trump effect has now brought it to this moment in time where Ku Klux Klan members feel so emboldened they're not wearing the sheets anymore This is very interesting because we were...KKK members were easy to identify

3:03:07 You could see the guiding light of the burning cross and they were all there in their white hoods, in their sheets. Now she's saying the Klan exists and they're everywhere! you can't see them because they've been emboldened by the Trump effect They aren't wearing the sheets anymore I get it this is pretty good I like it as a concept yeah The KKK members don't wear sheets over their face The Trump Effect is that people are out of the closet with their misogyny the closet with their racism. Nice that she's saying out of the closet in front of Rosie Do you see that? I mean, i see that as potentially the most corrosive impact Yes! I think it is really true. I was on the street the other day and some guy saw me with my new haircut and goes Hey you! You look like a dyke! Oh must have been a KKK member

3:03:53 I was like, to my face. Right? I thought the same thing the coarsening of the culture in my whole career as a gay woman... But you miss when people trashed you behind your back! Nobody would ever come up and say something to your face right but the culture now is such that this is what's happening Yes and that's the online Twitter culture That's it You're right she's right about that People would never say that to your face although I think Was they got to do with Trump Nothing! It's the Trump effect. People have no scruples, they're mean, they're rude, they say horrible things to your face whereas Rosie O'Donnell... who I helped with her career. She auditioned for VH1, she was doing Rascals in New Jersey at the Rascals Comedy Club that was a level of where she was well it's not too bad by the way but still Rascals and he wasn't on the national stage and Steve Leeds had brought her in and did you know I did a segment with her and that was part of her audition And then I went to Rascalz to see your stand-up and she slammed me

CHAPTER 41 / 43 Discussion

Vital Farms, Profanity in Advertising

A commercial for Vital Farms pasture-raised eggs is criticized for its repetitive use of the word "bullshit" (partially bleeped). The hosts link this trend of "filthy speech" in mainstream advertising to a broader coarsening of culture and the influence of podcasting on language standards.

vital farms· eggs· profanity· advertising· filthy speech movement

3:04:58 She's like, oh Adam Curry is here. The guy who has Mattel stamped on his ass. What is that supposed to mean? She felt I looked like a Malibu Ken or something...I don't know. Why was she doing that for you said you helped her Yeah! That was the day I stopped liking her. She's a douchebag let's face it. But it does bring me to my final clip Remember I was saying that it seems like language, like people are saying things more. Like they're... you know the thing had really got into television with shithole nation and that's still repeated but there's a lot of fuck going on you know Robert De Niro fuck this fuck Trump Kathy Griffin fuck Trump mugs everyone says FFFF everything yeah I think that's the podcasting influence no i think it's a barrier that people have broken through

3:05:51 Back in Berkeley, in the olden days during the free speech movement. It nears as it was waning and they were going to other things there was a moment that was called The Filthy Speech Movement and old timers will remember this. I had never heard of this! Oh yeah...it's not as well documented but I think you can find articles about it And it was just because Free Speech Movement is FSM so you could use the same signage It was a method of conserving resources. So you could still use FSM signage for the filthy speech movement and it consisted of a lot of public cursing.

3:06:28 And it was that we don't need to be told what to say or how to say it. I think that's really the moment where they were using the, you know saying fuck or anything pretty much were just sounding uneducated became a thing of the educated class, the elites, the liberals, they all became potty mouths as it were. Yeah, we went on for about three or four years until it kind of died off to well It's filthy speech movement. You can check I will look that up its well it's creeping into our advertising I've cut this down this was a whistle This was a minute and a half from a 90 and 90 second commercial And this is from the

3:07:11 Well, I'm sure the egg council has something to do with it. This is... well just listen to it and the bleeps are in the commercial When it comes to eggs there's a whole lot of clucking that doesn't really mean much of anything Other farms boast about being cage-free Well here at Vital Farms our pasture raised eggs are bullsh** free How do we keep the bulls*** away from our eggs? It's simple We give our hens some space A lot of it Our ladies, they're raised in an actual pasture. In the sunshine! Here at Vital Farms we care that our hens get to be hens and do hen things like whatever that is... And laying nutritious eggs that are naturally bullsh** free but you don't have to take my word for it Cage-free? Oh I've been eating up that bullsh** for years. I fed that bullsh** with my loved ones

3:08:06 But with Vital Farms, my recipes are more popular than ever. That's good! When a restaurant serves Vital Farms eggs it makes the hens happy and it makes my girls happy because brunch is too short for bull**** Right, Allison? What? Mm-hmm. Serious chefs have been using vital farms eggs for years. The reality of cage free is it's all part of my French connery Y'all know what that means? No chef! Bulls**t Well, I don't know a lot about French. But I know a lot about pasture-raised and how it gives hens space and sunshine unlike cage free because when you crack into a vital farms egg we want you to be absolutely confident that what your eating is 100% bullsh** free! How can this...how can this be? It's not like we don't know what they're saying

CHAPTER 42 / 43 Discussion

Dianne Feinstein, 1994 Border Enforcement Stance

A 1994 clip of Senator Dianne Feinstein shows her taking a hardline stance on border enforcement and the costs of illegal immigration to California's welfare and prison systems. The hosts contrast this historical position with current Democratic rhetoric, attributing the shift to "Orange Man Bad" sentiment.

dianne feinstein· illegal immigration· medicaid· border enforcement· 1994

3:09:05 I think it's a tasteless ad. Yes! Probably their eggs are tasteless too to be honest about it You're probably right Bullshit eggs Exactly All right. Well, I'd like to wrap up this 11th Anniversary episode if you if you want to play us out with something I give you do have anything good? I don't know For eleven years. I've never listened to your clips when you sent them in I hear them on the show I have no idea where you're silly. Yeah, I got a Feinstein Oh well yeah, let's play this This is from 1994. This is diet. This isn't going around the net right now okay yes i'm sure this is diane feinstein going on and on about border enforcement you have to concentrate on saying the people who should be here are those who come legally at this time and we've got to for the time being enforce our borders today when america the welfare system for mexico is gone we simply can't afford it

3:10:03 and I think you've seen the figures to state and local governments of what the cost is. It's over two billion dollars. I think we should enforce our borders, to have a situation where 40 percent at the babies born on Medicaid in California today are born of illegal immigrants creates a very real problem for the state which is indefinite... Of course you can enforce the borders! Let me finish. I agree. To have 17% of our prison population at a cost of 300 million a year, the illegal immigrants who come here and commit felonies. That's not what this nation is all about. But look very simple they've been in force our border... Yes my how their tune changes when the color orange comes into play. Yeah Orange Man Bad! Orangemanbad.exe

CHAPTER 43 / 43 Discussion

Show Outro, European Time Zone Discussion

The hosts conclude the anniversary episode with a discussion on the European Union's proposal to let member states decide their own time zones. They sign off from Austin and Northern Silicon Valley, thanking their producers and preparing for the next broadcast.

european union· daylight saving time· adam curry· john c dvorak· austin

3:10:52 Alright John congratulations with 11 years. Well, congratulations on hanging in there for 11 years too because I remember show 100 Yeah, so yeah, I mentioned this on the Grimerica show. I was ready to quit you But it wasn't because you were sick of air you were ready quick cuz you thought we had a good run It's been a good run John let's quit while we're ahead Just am shuddering to think about what might have become of me if we had stopped it It's not a not not a pretty sight in advance. I will thank Tom Starkweather Dave Corbin Oh and For and I think we have a secret agent started stark weather in the chat room No, I don't think so but you can email them

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3:13:30 It's a mess, it's a complete and utter mess. I get the biggest kick out of these Brits who go oh my god we're gonna have to do our own trade deals? This is the great British Empire ruling the world from sunset to sunrise now they're going if they're freaked out because he can't do as simple deal Sell some nuts and bolts to somebody, jam to the United States, some Cadbury's. Now this may be the last time or maybe it'll be one more year where we have daylight saving time in the European Union as there is now a serious discussion in the European Union Parliament To let each of the 28 member states which used to known as countries but now they're member states to decide

3:14:19 their own time. Mind-boggling! Hey, we give you guys a lot of freedom So it's either... hey let's make them think they're really in control of something by letting them decide whether they move their clock or not Or this is the death knell chaos is coming Well, the joke is that this is the sort of thing you'd want the European Union to standardize. Not everything else like how many feathers should be in a pillow Exactly but no we're gonna give you guys power here you go member states determine your own time slaves

3:14:59 Yeah, it's an insult. Does nobody see this? No... no they see it as positive! Oh great we- oh yeah this is the way the EU should work We have sovereignty over our own clocks! Take this you peasants There's no other way to see it Right I'm listening to a

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