Episode 1056 · Thursday, 2 August 2018

Q-Vision

Mainstream media outlets scramble to decode the QAnon phenomenon as federal courts block the digital distribution of 3D-printed firearm blueprints across the United States.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 1056

About this episode

The QAnon movement enters the mainstream spotlight after high-profile appearances at a Tampa rally, prompting major networks like CNN and PBS to deconstruct the digital-native phenomenon. This surge in visibility coincides with a federal judge blocking Cody Wilson and Defense Distributed from releasing 3D-printed gun blueprints online. While Senator Chuck Schumer labels these ghost guns a national security threat, proponents argue that computer code constitutes protected speech under the First Amendment.

Legal proceedings against Paul Manafort in Virginia reveal a broader crackdown on unregistered foreign agents, with defense attorneys highlighting that Rod Rosenstein previously declined to prosecute similar lobbying issues years ago. Meanwhile, Facebook removed 32 accounts linked to coordinated influence campaigns targeting the U.S. midterms, utilizing tactics reminiscent of the Russian Internet Research Agency. Former CIA Acting Director Michael Morell asserts that Vladimir Putin remains undeterred, while Professor Stephen Cohen warns against the criminalization of standard diplomacy during heated debates on CNN.

Stephen Colbert delivers a somber monologue regarding sexual misconduct allegations against CBS CEO Les Moonves, emphasizing that network power does not grant immunity from accountability. In a lighter moment, the flagship Whole Foods in Austin faces scrutiny over shrinking crab cakes following the Amazon acquisition. The show honors its executive producers through the value-for-value model, granting peerage titles to listeners from Norway to New Zealand who support independent media.


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CHAPTER 01 / 39 Discussion

HAARP Weather Modification, Norway Heatwave and Power Restoration

A listener from Norway reports a shift from extreme heat to rain, allowing power plants to resume production despite ongoing forest fires caused by lightning. The discussion links these atmospheric changes to the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP), noting that a station reportedly shut down on August 2nd. The system's ability to beam radio transmitters into the ionosphere is cited as a potential factor in recent global weather patterns.

haarp· norway· weather modification· ionosphere· power plants· forest fires

00:00 That jingle apparently triggers dogs worldwide whenever we play it. Full steam ahead with QVision and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in downtown Austin, Tejas in the Cluedio. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where I've got the recorder back, good news for everybody, I'm John C. DeVore. It's crackpot and buzzkill. In the morning. Yes, children around the globe are rejoicing. Woohoo! It's back, thank goodness. Wait, you have it repaired finally?

00:44 So now it sounds great. I took it to the recorder repair company. Ah, yes, they're all over the place. Yeah, of course. And I'm take a look at it. So here it is. Perfect. Yes. Yes. I'm glad it's in Good working order before we get into anything a big. Thank you coming to us from Andromeda in Norway Thank you, Adam and John the rain has finally come to Norway and it has been marvelous. I Good.

01:38 So we're getting back to normal. Mediocre weather with max temps 25, semi cloudy and I never thought I'd be glad for that. There are even some power plants back in production so hopefully the electricity bill won't kill us too much. Forest fires are still going on due to thunderstorms and the dry vegetation being lit by lightning in the south. But since the sun is not grilling 24-7 and the fall is almost here, I assume we can call the weather crisis over. Once again, the power of the sticks proven on the NOAA Agenda Show. We were just a public service company. There is one other thing that's helped, I believe. One of the engineers who works at HAARP,

02:17 We haven't talked about harp in years the high down. No no it's not true. It's on and off all the time Okay, well the engineer who works at harp One of the harp stations just said everybody as of August 2nd 0 0 48 UTC time harp is off until the fall campaign Thanks for tuning in tweeting reporting and all that fun stuff for science Science! You think there might be a coincidence between the heat we've been seeing and the harp being on? My understanding was they shut it down years ago. No, there's just one. They shut down one station. The whole harp system is still functioning. But watch! It's possible. That's what the whole thing is about, is an experiment. I mean if Norway all of a sudden things changed, the low pressure or yeah, was it high pressure?

CHAPTER 02 / 39 Discussion

Cody Wilson, 3D Printed Ghost Guns and First Amendment Rights

Cody Wilson and his company, Defense Distributed, face renewed scrutiny over the online publication of 3D-printed firearm blueprints. Senator Chuck Schumer and other critics argue these "ghost guns" are undetectable and dangerous, while proponents maintain that computer code is protected speech under the First Amendment. The narrative highlights that making firearms at home has historically been legal, though 3D printing technology has modernized the debate.

cody wilson· ghost guns· 3d printing· first amendment· nra· chuck schumer

03:17 changed. I mean, there could be all kinds of atmospheric things that do that. Including HAARP! A big radio transmitter beaming into the ionosphere. What could possibly go wrong? Seems like a fine idea to me. Yeah, it would. But let's start with a local story. Oh, you have a local story? Is it that they're actually gonna change the name of Austin? To Shithole. That's right. Shithole, Texas. No, no, the ghost gun is back, everybody. I got plenty of ghost gun stories too. Well, I have a little array set up here. First let's listen to how the ghost gun story, which is a very non-story in my opinion, but we'll get to that. It's a total scam story. This is nonsense. And it's being used, of course, to discredit Trump. Starting tomorrow, as you know, you'll just need a little money and download a blueprint

04:17 to make a gun at home undetectable by metal detectors. Already the damage has been done, according to the New York Post, already more than a thousand people have downloaded plans to make AR style 3D printed guns and the ban hasn't been lifted yet. The idea of these print on command ghost guns is every bit as scary as it sounds. Love that, print on demand ghost guns. Well done, Chucky. We should be doing everything in our power to make sure it doesn't happen. On issue after issue, the Trump administration's M.O. when there's a crisis is to say, we'll look into it, working with the NRA, and then nothing happens. Sure as we're here today, nothing is going to happen from this administration. We're going to have to pass legislation. Because they are just

05:12 enslaved by the NRA. Enslaved by the NRA? When the NRA says jump, they say how high. Oh yes. And the fact that the president said, the first time this comes about, he learned, he tweets about it, he says I'm going to consult with the NRA, that shakes every American's confidence that he really wants to do something. Oh, how's your confidence feeling? There's one thing about Schumer and this comment which was also used in the reports on NBC and CBS Schumer jumping in is that smart money comes out and discusses the NRA doesn't want a bunch of people printing their own guns. They represent the gun lobby, people who sell guns. Yes. Well, let's just make a statement right up front. It is not illegal to publish

06:01 Anything of this sort. You can go to the library, you can go get a book on how to build a bomb, you know, how to assemble a gun at home. That's a First Amendment issue. You cannot restrict words. It's dangerous to restrict because code is just words. It's just a bunch of characters. It's unrestrictable, thanks to the First Amendment. In my opinion, I'm not the only one, but let's get a little background from NPR, who in fact have a nice little kicker at the end of this. This all started back in 2013 when Wilson made his first 3D printed gun. It was a single shot pistol, mostly plastic with a few metal parts purchased at a hardware store.

06:43 He called it the Liberator. Then he put the plans on the Internet. Soon, the State Department told him he needed permission from the government to post those files because of international arms export rules. So he took the files down and then sued the government. Part of the issue in this case. is the question of whether a computer file can be speech that's protected under the First Amendment. Kit Walsh is an attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a non-profit focused on civil liberties online. Walsh argues computer code is no different than a recipe. Traditionally, under the First Amendment,

07:21 We don't keep people from talking about things just because they might be used in an illegal way. The case wound its way through the courts, gun control groups weighed in. We have laws to keep guns out of the wrong hands and to require background checks when you buy guns. at gun stores. Jonathan Lowy is with the Brady Center to prevent gun violence. That can be completely undercut if somebody can simply buy a 3D printer and After three years of legal wrangling, something unexpected happened. The government agreed to a deal with Defense Distributed and would allow Cody Wilson to publish the gun designs online. Now he's done just that. Do you understand why this all makes people uncomfortable? I do, I do, but...

08:11 Sometimes it's uncomfortable to be responsible or, you know, move into a new age of technological possibility. I suppose then people's feelings are kind of beside the point. Keep in mind it's always been legal to make your own guns at home. All you need is the right equipment and skills. What Wilson's doing is nothing new. He's just brought it into the 21st century. Yeah, it's not illegal to do that either. But this is just being hyped up for political means. Well, it's weak. Incredibly weak. You want to hear Judge Napolitano? Well, I mean, if it's always about the First Amendment and all that, I don't. I just think we should make it clear that these guns, A, they don't work. They're only pieces of the gun. You still have to buy barrels. There's not going to make a plastic barrel.

09:01 Yeah, I think actually the barrel is plastic, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter Yeah, but this but these guns are junk if you've made when you're lucky you're lucky if it doesn't blow up in your hand It's a dangerous product. Yes, but even if it was even if it worked perfectly it doesn't make any difference No, I agree with that and someday it probably will work perfectly and it's you're right But you could always make guns at home if you have the equipment so what difference does it make what's new? There's nothing new. The only thing that's new is that the plans, so you don't have to have any skill to build it at home. Now you just need a printer, you can build it at home. Building at home is not illegal. You need enough skill to put the code in the printer. I mean, it's not like you don't have...

09:45 It's that doesn't download all of a sudden the little pieces start popping out, but even then it just doesn't matter It just doesn't matter the whole thing is a specious argument for political means and it wouldn't even have hit the radar probably if it weren't for you know, everyone being on the lookout for something to grab Trump with and then Schumer comes out and says, I mean, we didn't finish that part of the clip, but he said, yeah, Trump wants illegals, you know, people come into the country legal if they slip in, then they can get a gun. Shut up. Yeah, no, the legal can come in and then take his well he's coming across the border with his $10,000 printer that can make these things. I mean, you little bitty desktop one's not going to do it.

10:30 The legal brings his printer prints a gun. I mean, come on this whole thing You're right as specious as bullcrap the arguments are counterintuitive the NRA wouldn't doesn't like these things Schumer has on the wrong side is Schumer's on the wrong side of that argument, too I mean everything about this it smacks of some public relations operation to me interesting well I don't. Everybody played this. They had it on Good Morning America. They had it on NBC, had a whole special on it with Lester Holt. Right, but what was the conclusion? Trump. In every single one of them, conclusion was Trump. Well, they didn't conclude it was Trump. They had Trump as partial. If you listen to here's the NBC report. I don't think it's too long. And you can hear the Trump blame is in the middle with the

CHAPTER 03 / 39 Discussion

Federal Injunction Blocks 3D Gun Blueprints, Trump Administration Criticism

A federal judge issued an injunction to block the release of 3D-printed gun blueprints following legal action from several state attorneys general. Media reports from NBC and other outlets link the Trump administration's settlement with Cody Wilson to the gun lobby's influence. Activists like Fred Guttenberg, whose daughter died in the Parkland shooting, express concern that plastic firearms represent a significant threat to national security and public safety.

tom costello· lester holt· parkland· fred guttenberg· federal judge· gun control

11:24 Schumer's sub clip. technology is accessible and so are the guns and tonight a federal judge has just blocked the release of blueprints for the guns after several states took legal action to stop their release. NBC's Tom Costello has late details. They almost look like plastic toys, but experts insist so-called ghost guns can be very lethal. Nine state attorneys general and Senate Democrats have tried to block this man, Cody Wilson, from posting free 3D printer instructions online. Late today, a federal judge agreed to an injunction. Make no mistake about it. This is the doing of the Trump administration. This is part of a long pattern of letting the gun lobby get whatever they want.

12:29 Yeah, Trump. That's what it's being used for. Guns. Ah, we're back to guns. What's in report two? Well, then it gets worse. Now they start bringing the experts in, including a dad of one of the Parkland shooters. This morning, President Trump tweeted, I am looking into 3D plastic guns being sold to the public. Already spoke to the NRA. Doesn't seem to make much sense. But it was the Trump administration that agreed Cody Wilson could post the instructions. As long as you have the right to keep and bear arms, you have the right to make them. After the Obama administration had sued to block him. This changes the safety of Americans forever if this is allowed to happen. Fred Guttenberg's 14-year-old daughter Jamie was one of 17 people killed in Parkland, Florida in February. Plastic guns, he fears, will mean even more senseless killings. Now every American on the homeland is at risk.

13:20 Terrorists, they want to home produce guns now on this land? They can't. But Cody Wilson and gun enthusiasts claim they have First and Second Amendment protections. No, gun control is not dead, it's undead. Gun control is undead. And various 3D instructions are online anyway. Meanwhile, the TSA has already confiscated four 3D guns at airports since 2016. I mean, it's a killer's dream. It's a hitman's dream. It's a terrorist's dream. A hijacker's dream. Somebody who wants to hurt you can make their own gun. Well, this is interesting you just have by the way I have the dream come true ISO because I think it was that good that guy at the end You have a listen. It's a terrorist dream a hijackers dream somebody who wants to hurt you can make their own gun That's pretty good Contender well contender. We'll see how the show goes is a contender for sure but so you triggered something by saying some kind of PR operation and

CHAPTER 04 / 39 Discussion

TSA CT Scanners, American Airlines JFK Security Upgrade

American Airlines donated eight high-tech 3D CT scanners to the TSA, with the first unit deployed at JFK Airport in New York. These $300,000 machines allow screeners to rotate bag images 360 degrees, potentially eliminating the need for passengers to remove liquids and laptops. Speculation suggests the sudden media focus on plastic "ghost guns" may be a public relations push to secure congressional funding for 2,000 additional scanners nationwide.

tsa· jfk airport· ct scanner· american airlines· david pekoske· security theater

14:15 Wow, I happen to have a clip that could be that very thing. This brand new 3D CT scanner at the American Airlines terminal at New York's JFK Airport can see through just about anything in a carry-on bag to spot a potential threat. Here's what a TSA screener sees now from the current generation x-ray machines. Look closely. Can you spot the knife? And now that's why TSA asked you to remove your laptop. For this reason. But, using your finger, just manipulate it around and there it is. Oh wow! That's the view from the new analogic scanner going into JFK. The manufacturer gave us a first look last year. They work like a CT machine in a hospital, seeing through even a cluttered bag and gives screeners the ability to zoom in and rotate the bag for a 360 degree view.

15:01 American Airlines donated eight of the roughly $300,000 scanners to TSA, including the one at JFK. We think in perhaps five years or so, the passengers won't have to take anything out of their carry-on bags. TSA Administrator David Pekoske calls the technology revolutionary. What they're capable of doing is detecting a wider range of explosives, which is very important, and then a much lower weight of explosives. They're just much better at detection, so you really get you get better security faster, essentially. The TSA plans to have 15 deployed to these airports by the end of the year and are authorized to buy up to 240 in 2019. They'll need about 2,000 to cover every airport checkpoint in the country. There it is! Perjay Freig is American Airlines head of security. Just getting to that point that in a non-pre-check lane you're able to keep your liquids, gels, aerosols

15:53 and laptops and electronics in your bags. It's a new era, if you will, and we're really excited about it. The TSA has tested this technology at airports in Phoenix and Boston and found it does speed up the lines because there are fewer secondary bag searches. Congress is pushing TSA to get this technology out there as fast as possible, but realistically to replace every x-ray machine at every airport in the U.S. is going to take years. Now, who would have access to knowledge that this trial has, you know, that there was a new judgment and the guy, Cody Wilson here in Austin wanted to publish the plans and he was going to publish it and held back and now he could do it again? The inside guys, DHS guys, former DHS guys who were selling these scanners.

16:35 I think that's your PR push. We don't know for sure yet, but they'd have to do it this week. I like it. It makes sense. They're looking for money. It's a coincidence. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I don't know where that is. We haven't used that in a long time. But yes, it's beyond a coincidence. They're looking for more money in Congress as we speak. So besides a handy little thing to throw at Trump, you know, colluding with the NRA, whatever it is today. Maybe that's you know these things will clearly see a gun a printed gun as well. It's not gonna. Yeah Oh, yeah metal detectors may not detect the amount of metal that's in the gun, but Before you continue I was listening to some reports that I didn't clip that were on the radio and they were talking about how metal detectors can't detect these guns, but some but other devices can and the TSA is a

17:31 It's possible that, yeah, it may just be about the scanner. Because that's an expensive guy. It's $300,000. Yeah. And they want 2,000 of them. Yeah. Jeez. Quick back of the envelope. That's several hundred million dollars as far as I can tell. Sounds like a bonanza to me. Yeah. So perfect. Perfect. That would make sense. So we'll just keep our eye on it. See if we're right. So let's just scare the public unnecessarily so we can push some crap through. Yep. First, our security theater can be improved and somebody can make a pot load of money on the taxpayers back. Okay. You know, I picked a good week to dive into the rabbit hole. You know what rabbit hole? Two of them actually, but the first one was Q.

CHAPTER 05 / 39 Discussion

QAnon Conspiracy Theory, Trump Rallies and Media Deconstruction

The QAnon movement gained mainstream media attention following the appearance of "Q" signs at a Donald Trump rally in Tampa, Florida. Originating on 4chan in late 2017, the theory posits that a high-level government insider is leaking "breadcrumbs" about a military-backed plan to dismantle a global criminal cabal. Major news outlets like CNN and PBS have begun deconstructing the movement, which interprets political events as part of a grand strategy by the President.

qanon· 4chan· 8chan· seth rich· donald trump· robert mueller

18:23 And I have a cue clip. I noticed that I have some things to say about it. Let's play your clip. Let me play this clip and then you can go off the deep end. All right. Now this clip. I just randomly picked it because it was on, I was looking and I said, what? Who cares? This is dumb. Because there is a group of 17 Democrats, but apparently there's more to it than that. He has his people at his rally that look for the number 17 as signs of truth. Q is the 17th letter in the alphabet. Not that that helps make any sense of significance to them. And they see Trump tweeting something like this.

19:01 17 angry Democrats. They take value in the number 17, a potential sign. I hope he didn't use that number for them. He hasn't always used the number 17. Yeah, so what happened... By the way, that was CNN and their fine reporting. Yeah. So here's what happened. And I saw this when Trump did his most recent rally for Ron DeSantis. Right there covering the pool video shot was a sign QAnon, RIP Seth Rich, and it was on screen like for minutes at a time and people walking around with Q signs, people at the side of the road, and everybody jumped on it. Every mainstream outlet jumped on this.

19:49 And with some with interesting takes, but what I thought was and I was gonna do a wrap-up That's what I was planning. I started looking Sunday because a couple you know I've never I am always happy to revisit something that I've said screw that I don't think it's anything and I've been very skeptical about the whole Q business so I decided to go in again and keep reading and I watched more you know deconstruction videos on YouTube and I just went on on but The report on PBS on the NewsHour from whoever this guy is, this reporter, I would say sums it up perfectly. For more on this conspiracy theory and how it's spread I'm joined by the news hours PJ Tobia who's been following this. PJ first of all what is QAnon? So this all started last fall on 4chan which is an anonymous online message board and last fall a user calling himself QAnon began posting little nuggets of information. Q is actually a reference to the Q clearance. It's one of the highest security clearances in the US government

20:51 Q, claims to be highly placed in the government and has visibility into a kind of conspiracy of globalists, a permanent criminal government that's been running the U.S. government for decades. This, of course, includes the Clintons, the Obamas, the financier George Soros, and many, many others. The conspiracy goes on to posit that President Trump will team up with the U.S. military and crush this conspiracy. crushed this cabal by throwing them all in jail, starting with Hillary Clinton. Do they have any evidence that this is going on, that the Obamas, the Clintons are trying to overthrow President Trump? So what they're claiming as evidence are Q's posts on 4chan and then it migrated to another board called 8chan. And these are these cryptic little, he calls them breadcrumbs because that's really what they are. And they're little clues, watch for this, look for that, and people take them and unpack

21:44 these breadcrumbs and read into it kind of what they will. And things like President Trump's tweets, where it's well known that he misspells things occasionally or maybe uses improper grammar, he says those are actually clues, part of the actions that the president is about to take to crush this cabal. So, who's on board with this? Who are the people who have — who are following this? We know there were people at this rally last night in Tampa that were wearing T-shirts or holding signs saying QAnon. Who are these folks? Do you have any idea? Or how many of them? When it comes to conspiracy theories or a lot of fringe groups on the right or the left, it's really hard to quantify and get numbers. But YouTube pages where QAnon's breadcrumbs are unpacked and discussed have

22:28 hundreds of thousands of hits. Twitter accounts dedicated to this have tens of thousands of hits. So there's a lot of folks who are engaging in this content online. Now, some folks who, some people who are experts who watch conspiracy theories and conspiracy groups say it's probably not nearly the number of people who say, believe that the moon landing was fake or that there are a conspiracy about the JFK assassination, but still some prominent celebrity Trump supporters like former Boston Red Sox pitcher Kurt Schilling and Roseanne Barr have tweeted and said things positively about the QAnon conspiracy. So PJ, where does this go from here? Do authorities watch this kind of thing? There's nothing illegal about it, is there? No, there's nothing illegal about it at all. I mean, they're just talking on social media.

23:11 But as these people start appearing in the real world, I think we're all going to be watching them much closer. Look, the bottom line about this conspiracy theory is that it's a conspiracy to protect Trump. So things that to the rest of us might seem like bad news for Trump, like the Mueller investigation, they look at as actually part of Trump's grand strategy. You see, he was colluding with Russia. He wanted to make it look like he was colluding with Russia on purpose so that Robert Mueller would be hired and he could team up with Trump, Mueller and Trump teaming up together to investigate the Clintons and the rest of the deep state and their global pedophile sex ring. So that takes a lot of thinking to get that far. And a lot of talking. They spill a lot of digital ink online about this stuff. Now if I had to do a summary of Q to date, I could not have done a better job. I think you really got everything in there right down to the pedophiles who eat children in the Clinton cabal.

CHAPTER 06 / 39 Discussion

Jeff Sessions Recusal, QVision Analysis of DOJ Strategy

Using a "QVision" perspective, the ongoing public friction between Donald Trump and Attorney General Jeff Sessions is interpreted as a strategic ruse. This theory suggests Sessions recused himself from the Russia investigation to ensure that upcoming mass indictments against the "swamp" cannot be blamed on direct presidential interference. The analysis claims this allows the Department of Justice to maintain a veneer of independence while preparing for large-scale arrests.

jeff sessions· doj· qvision· deep state· indictments· attorney general

24:07 I like Judy's take on the whole thing. She goes, I think it takes a lot of thinking. It takes a lot of thinking. But when you listen to this, actually, I found it handy. I had Jay put your box under your Shay's lounge there. If you can grab them. I put your Q-vision glasses in there. Oh yeah, here they are. I'm putting them on now. Okay. Hold on, let me put mine on for a second. That helps a little bit. There we go cue vision so now when you take a look at things you see them through cue vision Different eyes, and let's just take a look at a couple scenarios The first one is Jeff sessions a lot of second what does zephyrs painted blue? Oh, no? Does it say obey on the side? No? Thank goodness

25:03 So, and I'm just pulling up a few things that I've learned that people in the Q movement are obsessed about. And if you look at it through the QVision glasses, which we're wearing right now, you may be able to see this in a different light. So, why has Trump not replaced Jeff Sessions? Ever since the guy recused himself, which was right at right when he was in there. I'm in I'm Attorney General I I recuse myself from the Russia investigation with the cue vision glasses now we can see the reason that he has done that and the reason why Trump Continuously harps on him and to a degree that we had set we have Saturday night live skits about it about sessions the nutjob Trump hates him It's all horrible the Trump

25:51 When he doesn't like somebody or the guy's not performing, he's gone. Rex Tillerson, I don't like what you're doing, you're talking shit about me, you're gone. He fires everybody very quickly, in and out, if you do no good, you're gone. Why is he continuing to have this feud with Jeff Sessions? Because when the swamp is going to be drained and all the indictments come and they arrest 100 people in the middle of the night all in one go, then they at least cannot say Trump ordered that to happen. So that's one. What's happening right now with this Manafort case is through the Q-vision glasses we can see this is not about Trump, this is not about collusion. Of course, with the glasses we see that Robert Mueller, who in the eyes of the Qs

26:39 Was complicit in 9-11 and many other crimes after that many other global crimes. He was so involved in this criminal cabal Specifically with the FBI that they had to give him an extra two years even though ten years is the term that was set in place so you never could have a Situation with the FBI that we saw when it was first when it was first founded where it was a big deal blackmailing operation. So 10 years is the term, but there was so much to clean up that they had to extend it two years into Obama's term. You'll recall that that was a scandalous really what they did and how they did that. Borderline unconstitutional illegal.

CHAPTER 07 / 39 Discussion

Paul Manafort Trial, Rod Rosenstein and Lobbying Crackdown

The trial of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort focuses on his lavish lifestyle and alleged tax fraud related to overseas lobbying in Ukraine. Defense attorneys have highlighted that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein previously declined to prosecute Manafort for similar issues eight years ago. The investigation has expanded to include other major Washington D.C. figures, such as Tony Podesta, signaling a broader crackdown on unregistered foreign agents.

paul manafort· rod rosenstein· robert mueller· tony podesta· lobbying· tax fraud

27:19 Mueller now wants to repent for his sins. Yes, he's repenting. QVision, I see it clearly. He's repenting for his sins and he is going to help drain the swamp. This is one of the promises Trump made. So what do we see in the New York Times today? Mueller's digging exposes culture of foreign lobbying and its big paydays. So this is not at all about the Russian collusion, in fact Manafort... let me see I have some clips to... to back this up. Let me just give you a background or an AP report on the first day of the Manafort trial. We had a day of testimony about Paul Manafort's lavish lifestyle and a good bit of back and forth between the prosecution and the judge about how relevant that is to the case and to the jury and how much the jury should be able to hear about Manafort's lifestyle, which includes very fancy homes, very fancy cars,

28:19 rugs, nearly a million dollars in expensive high-end suits. So this is a guy who lived lavishly. His defense lawyer stipulated yesterday that Paul Manafort travels in circles that most of us will never understand. That's not a crime. The judge agrees that's not a crime. So even though we heard testimony about that, you can tell that the judge has tried to limit the amount of information and evidence about the specifics of his life to the jury. The testimony is going to continue tomorrow morning. We expect tomorrow to get to bookkeepers and accountants. One thing that's important to note about that is that Paul Manafort's defense has been that Manafort's this busy international political consultant, he himself didn't have time to deal with the specifics and minutia of his finances, so he left it to others.

29:06 We're going to see whether that's really true and whether that's supported by the government's evidence. I play this AP clip specifically because what you hear is they have no outrage, there's nothing, the guy is not cooperating, there's nothing, all he's saying is, hey someone else did my taxes, I messed it up. But it gets even crazier because this huge trial that everybody is talking about Was initially the guy was not prosecuted eight years ago for the very same crimes But through QVision we see something very interesting. One of their arguments is this Paul Manafort was investigated by the federal government by a team of federal prosecutors and FBI agents for all this stuff eight years ago and they exonerated him and who was the young prosecutor that led that exoneration?

29:53 Rod Rosenstein who now runs the Justice Department and they have threatened to call Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein as their first witness and have him give to the jury all the reasons why he declined the prosecution of these charges eight years ago. Do you think they have gotten anything from him? Has Mueller's team gotten what they wanted or needed or hoped to find from Manafort? Absolutely not. In fact, on the steps of the courthouse this morning, after jury selection, this afternoon actually, and before these opening statements, Manafort's lawyer turned to the press and said all deals are off.

30:30 We will not settle anything. We won't give them anything. We're rolling the dice with the jury. Now, through our current vision, we now understand that this is a setup and Mueller has indeed referred Tony Podesta, the Podesta Group, which is now defunct, and other lobbyists to the Southern District of New York. And this, through QVision, is the draining of the swamp, the first step, is blowing everything wide open and showing all of this money in Washington DC, all of the lobbying.

31:08 There's thousands of unregistered lobbyists people lobbying who did not register as a lobbyist would be more correct Thousands of them they're foreign agents. They've got all kinds of money. They're doing hookers and blow and restaurants and me whatever it is and This trial would be the beginning of the draining of the swamp cue glosses off And I will come back with more of these cue vision segments That was it? You're done? Well, I was gonna pause here to hear what you had to say. Oh, well, I think we can play my Manafort clip and see if it fits into anything. Okay. Mine's a wrap.

31:52 Though Paul Manafort was the Trump campaign chairman for three months, this trial is not about that. For nearly a decade, Robert Mueller's prosecutors told the jury today, Manafort made millions representing Russia's neighbor Ukraine and its president, Viktor Yanukovych, a Putin ally, but stashed at least 15 million of it in overseas banks to avoid paying taxes. Prosecutors say he also lied to banks to get nearly 25 million in loans on his houses. But Manafort's lawyer told the jury that the man who hid the money from the IRS was Manafort's former business partner, Rick Gates, who has pleaded guilty and will testify. The defense says Gates was embezzling money from the lobbying firm. Manafort has defended his overseas lobbying as promoting democracy. Well, the work I was doing in Ukraine was to help Ukraine get into Europe, and we succeeded.

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Rick Gates Testimony, Manafort Defense Strategy

Paul Manafort’s defense team is shifting blame for financial irregularities to his former business partner, Rick Gates, accusing him of embezzlement. While Gates has pleaded guilty and agreed to cooperate with the government, the presiding judge has expressed skepticism regarding the prosecution's motives, suggesting the case is designed to pressure Manafort into providing information on Donald Trump. Manafort remains in custody as the trial proceeds in Virginia.

rick gates· paul manafort· ukraine· embezzlement· irs· judge t.s. ellis

31:08 There's thousands of unregistered lobbyists people lobbying who did not register as a lobbyist would be more correct Thousands of them they're foreign agents. They've got all kinds of money. They're doing hookers and blow and restaurants and me whatever it is and This trial would be the beginning of the draining of the swamp cue glosses off And I will come back with more of these cue vision segments That was it? You're done? Well, I was gonna pause here to hear what you had to say. Oh, well, I think we can play my Manafort clip and see if it fits into anything. Okay. Mine's a wrap.

31:52 Though Paul Manafort was the Trump campaign chairman for three months, this trial is not about that. For nearly a decade, Robert Mueller's prosecutors told the jury today, Manafort made millions representing Russia's neighbor Ukraine and its president, Viktor Yanukovych, a Putin ally, but stashed at least 15 million of it in overseas banks to avoid paying taxes. Prosecutors say he also lied to banks to get nearly 25 million in loans on his houses. But Manafort's lawyer told the jury that the man who hid the money from the IRS was Manafort's former business partner, Rick Gates, who has pleaded guilty and will testify. The defense says Gates was embezzling money from the lobbying firm. Manafort has defended his overseas lobbying as promoting democracy. Well, the work I was doing in Ukraine was to help Ukraine get into Europe, and we succeeded.

32:40 President Trump's name wasn't even mentioned in court today and he has distanced himself from Manafort in recent months. He worked for me, what, for 49 days or something? A very short period of time. Today he again attacked Robert Mueller tweeting, collusion is not a crime but that doesn't matter because there was no collusion. Paul Manafort is 69. If convicted he could get up to 10 years in prison. Yeah, interesting. I think this report is a little outdated because the Rick Gates thing has an update to it. I think it's in this clip. Judges have an unwritten rule not to interrupt opening and closing statements unless something so wrong is being said that it's going to infect the trial.

33:20 But this judge is not keen on the government's case. This is the federal judge who basically said to the prosecutors in the courtroom, Bob Mueller has sent you here to squeeze this guy, points at Paul Manafort, to get information out of him that will help indict, charge, embarrass or impeach the President of the United States, and I don't want to be part of it. And then they persuaded him that it was a legitimate case and that's why the case is going forward. So there's two arguments here. One is the judge is right. The only reason they are prosecuting Paul Manafort is because they want him to trials, two months in solitary confinement. They're imposing about the most legal pressure they can possibly put on an innocent person. They want him to squeal on something, they don't know what, on Donald Trump.

34:07 Hmm, it wasn't in there, but apparently Rick Gates is not flipping, is not saying anything at all. So, you know, do you have your glasses still on? I didn't hear you take them off. Yeah, I've been noticing that the funny thing about these glasses is that if you look out in the yard, you can see where weeds are developing as opposed to the normal plants. Very interesting. Why don't you take them off? You shouldn't have them on. Okay, then we get them off. Better so just looking at the Q phenomenon Which I don't want to ignore because we kind of did that with Gamergate It was too complicated and Q Anon has similar characteristics. You know you go to 8chan you look at these posts and like my brain hurts, but But there's a there's enough compendia that you can look up and you can read through it in a little more organized fashion What we either have is a large

CHAPTER 09 / 39 Discussion

Deep State Confirmation, QAnon Movement Longevity

The QAnon phenomenon is compared to Gamergate in its complexity and digital-native origins on image boards like 8chan. While much of the movement focuses on proving its own legitimacy, its core appeal lies in the deconstruction of mainstream media narratives and the belief in a "deep state" bureaucracy. The persistence of the movement suggests a significant portion of the population is seeking alternatives to traditional political reporting.

deep state· gamergate· 8chan· deconstruction· confirmation· bureaucracy

35:05 group, very large, I think it's millions of people, who will be extremely disappointed and that could have very bad consequences, very dire consequences, or they will be delighted with each step of the way as the swamp begins to drain. What Q really does In my opinion, it's really a kind of no agenda formula deconstructing things that are said in the mainstream. And some of it we come up with as well. It's not like we don't agree that there's a bunch of Yahoo douchebags running stuff.

35:43 I mean, you and I agree on that, and we know who the groups are, and we know where they are. And is there a deep state? Yeah, of course there's a deep state. It might have something to do with 400 people still waiting to be confirmed to get the jobs they're ready to do, which I guess Congress is unable to do or won't do. And maybe there's 400 people who need to get out. I don't know. The movement is very real and it's not to be ignored and I will now have my cue glasses handy and I will bring updates as they come through. There's really nothing else at this moment and all these, you know, I would say 70% of the time is spent on proving Q is real which is a total waste of time. Who cares?

36:25 Now the in front the deconstruction he does is reasonable or she or it I don't even see that much deconstruction. I see a lot of hinting. Oh, look at this look for this look for that That's what most of it is but there's some deconstruction in there. I didn't bring specific examples, but I look through thousands of posts and It's not to be ignored. That's why we have our Q-vision glasses so that we can look at it with Q-vision and then not have to worry about being able to straddle that. We can always take them off and look at it from a different perspective. Well, as you mentioned deep state, I don't want to change the topic completely, but I do want to do a movie recommendation. Okay.

CHAPTER 10 / 39 Discussion

The Death of Stalin, Movie Recommendation and Historical Satire

The 2017 French-British satirical comedy "The Death of Stalin" is recommended for its historically grounded portrayal of the power struggle following Joseph Stalin's demise in 1953. Starring Steve Buscemi as Khrushchev and Jeffrey Tambor as Malenkov, the film depicts the paranoia and absurdity of the Soviet political elite. The movie is noted for its "No Agenda" style roadmap of how people behave under extreme political pressure and fear.

the death of stalin· steve buscemi· michael palin· jeffrey tambor· nikita khrushchev· lavrentiy beria

37:12 Because this is a movie you've never heard of, you've never seen. It came out last year, 2017. It's highly regarded by the movie aficionados and collectors and people in the know. It's French. French movie, even though it's all in English. It's got Steve Buscemi and Michael Palin and Jeffrey Tambor. You'd think these guys alone would get some attention. It's called The Death of Stalin. Okay, and it's about the death of Stalin with Jeffrey Tambor playing Melon cough and Buscemi playing Khrushchev and It's a comedy. Hmm. That is I would say 90% I heard about this. Yeah 90% historically accurate

38:03 The way that Beria was killed is questionable at the end, but it is... I, in fact, I ended up going to the Wikipedia pages and looking up all these guys and trying to piece it together, see what they left out and what they put in. And it's very... If I was taking Russian history, I'd want to see this movie for sure. But it is... One of the funniest movies you'll ever see in terms of its attack on People go along with the program people who are scared of everything. Oh good media is a very no agenda It's a roadmap is what you're saying. It's a comedy road Yeah, it's kind of a roadmap and it's some of its kind of creepy and it's most of its pathetic and it's very funny in spots, it's extremely funny and Tambor probably takes his his creepy character that used to play when he was Hank on the

39:04 He takes that to a new level of jerk. Oh good And what is it on Netflix I have I had a D I found a DVD of it. Oh, okay the death of Stalin I'm sure it's on the Amazon somewhere. It's got to be somewhere but to wrap up this segment I did want to play one YouTube clip because I watched so many and although not per se Q related. It is just a great conspiracy that I'd like us to keep in the back of our minds and it's about Hillary and her illness on the campaign trail. Yes. And a new theory. Have you heard of this? Did you? I've seen a million of these theories as she's walking around with a colostomy bag but I don't know. No, probably not. This is David Todeschen.

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Kuru Disease Theory, Hillary Clinton Health Speculation

A fringe theory suggests Hillary Clinton may be suffering from Kuru, a rare neurodegenerative disease historically linked to cannibalism. This speculation stems from her 2016 campaign health incidents and controversial "spirit cooking" emails leaked via John Podesta. However, a more grounded explanation for her symptoms points to documented head trauma sustained during a reported plane incident in Iran rather than exotic viral infections.

kuru· hillary clinton· cannibalism· spirit cooking· encephalitic disease· molech

39:59 Hello, my name is Dave and it is the morning of November 23rd 2016. This is important. This is when Q started and this is when we had all this information? We've all but proven with their own documents that Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, John Podesta and the whole bunch of these people including some notable celebrities out in Hollywood are entered as spirit cooking, child molesting and even child sacrifice. To my knowledge no bodies have been recovered, no murder charges have been preferred, but it all goes back to the thing that during the debates seems to have been proven wrong at least for that day

40:51 that Hillary Clinton is suffering some kind of brain disease, some kind of encephalitic disease that's causing her to wig out and do stupid shit with her head. Okay? And I don't know if you've seen it, but there's photos where she's talking and she's got a hole in her tongue. And I found out that there is a disease called Kuru. K-U-R-U. It's a very rare disease that is contracted by, get this, eating dead people. Cannibalism. Spirit cooking, cannibalism,

41:37 sacrifices to the pagan god Molech of the Old Testament in the Bible. That's what these people do. So, if you're involved in spirit cooking and child rape and child murder and eating dead bodies... My God, I just... You know, it's two days before Thanksgiving. I gotta take a break from this shit, otherwise I'm gonna barf up my Thanksgiving dinner. There you go! Kuru! Yeah, well, let's talk about Kuru for a second. And of course, all this is accounted for by her conking her head in that plane wreck that nobody's, we stopped talking about and everybody else stopped talking about too. But she got into a plane wreck in Iran and it was somewhat documented. Kuru is mad cow disease. It's also scrappy. It's a virus and it creates all kinds of problems in the brain and it is easily transmittable

42:35 from eating brains, not necessarily flesh. Oh, but that's the delicacy. So you eat brains and also it's just, yeah, Kuru. Cannibals apparently have this problem. Yeah, it's a good idea. It's funny. I don't think that's, you know, she hasn't got Kuru. Okay. She's got, you know, the results of a head trauma well she did have actual head trauma it's just it was exposed people probably forgot that we talked about the Iranian plane crash yeah the only ones who talked about it but she was her excuse that she slipped in her home and yes she slipped and hit herself on the head yeah well with that let's transition to Russia because the question remains

CHAPTER 12 / 39 Discussion

Collusion vs. Conspiracy, DNC Fraud Allegations

Legal analysts clarify that while "collusion" is not a specific crime in the federal code, Robert Mueller is utilizing "conspiracy to defraud the United States" as a primary charge. This legal standard is applied to the Trump investigation but could arguably be applied to the Democratic National Committee's actions against Bernie Sanders in 2016. The discussion highlights the use of opposition research, such as the Steele Dossier, as a potential form of electoral interference.

collusion· conspiracy· dnc· bernie sanders· debbie wasserman schultz· christopher steele

43:28 As always, is there any collusion? Any collusion? Any collusion? Any collusion? Any collusion? Is collusion a crime is the question. So both Giuliani and Trump, we see they're making the argument that collusion isn't illegal, that it's not in the criminal code. Tell us what you know. What's the fact here? And this is interesting. That's what you know. Yeah, you know. If you look at the very long federal criminal code, which contains over 4,000 crimes, You won't find a crime called collusion, but you will find crimes that punish people for hacking into email or computers or election fraud or violating campaign financing laws. And then other laws punish people for conspiracy, which means working with other people to commit crimes.

44:16 So, at the end of the day, it's really just kind of a rhetorical device to say that collusion isn't a crime, because special counsel Mueller certainly understands that. And so, what he's charged most frequently is conspiracy to defraud the United States. And I like that, conspiracy to defraud the United States, because you could easily pin that on the Democratic National Committee. They defrauded their own voters in the primary with Bernie Sanders. There's not even an argument about that. Half of the top brass had to resign, including chairwoman Debbie Washington Schultz. They may have done other forms of defrauding of the United States. Certainly, maybe if you want to take it to opposition research, which is what Trump is being accused of, of getting the dirt on Hillary, asking Russia to hack her emails, none of it true, of course.

45:15 You look at the report itself and you look at what the DNC and Hillary and the Brits did with their MI5 or MI6, MI5 guy Christopher Steele. That could also be said that's trying to defraud the United States. Yeah, I agree. Well a lot of it now of course is the focus in the news cycle and the news media is back on Facebook. Yes, I have a clip. I didn't get the clip of... Oh, I do. I have clips. I have clips, but I have a couple of clips, but I didn't get the clip. I didn't get the meat clip. I was thinking about it. The meat clip? You don't have the meat clip?

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Facebook Account Removal, Russian Influence and Cyber Security

Facebook removed 32 accounts and pages involved in a coordinated political influence campaign ahead of the U.S. midterms. These accounts, which attracted nearly 290,000 followers, promoted divisive issues such as the "Abolish ICE" movement and counter-protests against white nationalists. While Facebook has not definitively named the perpetrator, officials point to similarities with the Russian Internet Research Agency's tactics, including the use of VPNs to mask identities.

facebook· mark zuckerberg· internet research agency· vpn· ice· disinformation

45:59 Let me look. No, I don't see the meat clip. Go to YouTube and look up Zuckerberg meat or Zuckerberg brisket. Oh, I saw this where he's cooking his brisket? Yeah, and he's just like an idiot. He's just talking about... For hours, he's talking about his meat. Yeah, his meat. What does that have to do with anything? Just saying. Well, he's doing that. Facebook is going down the tubes. So let's play the new Facebook nonsense. Tonight, Facebook says it's happening again. The social media giant announcing it's removed 32 pages and accounts from Facebook and Instagram. An apparent political influence campaign ahead of November's midterms.

47:00 The bogus page is stirring up divisive issues, one called Resisters, promoting a counter-protest against an upcoming white nationalist rally. Even recruiting activists who Facebook says unwittingly helped build interest in the event. That page also pushing the left-wing campaign to abolish ICE, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency, part of a growing political firestorm. The Democrats want to abandon ICE. They want to end ICE. Well, it doesn't sound like it's very pro-Republicans, what they're doing. Well, this is the latest thing, is because they can't really get the goods, you know, that show them slanting one way or the other. What they're doing is they're just...

47:43 Amplifying supposedly. Well, no, they're taking a position. They're taking it. They're taking a position against ICE. They're taking both positions. Oh, they're so smart. They're taking both positions that way to call more division, more division by taking both sides. Can I play the NPR backgrounder on these 32? Let's play part two first. And then the Democrats want to abandon ICE. They want to end ICE. The page is created between March of last year and this May, picking up 290,000 followers. So who's responsible? Facebook says it doesn't know. But on Capitol Hill, lawmakers are again pointing the finger at Russia, one Republican vowing more sanctions.

48:27 That is everything but the kitchen sink in it. It'll be the sanctions bill from hell. The new revelations after Congress recently grilled CEO Mark Zuckerberg over Facebook's handling of Russian interference in 2016. Unfortunately, the enforcement isn't perfect. We do need to make it more proactive and I'm committed to doing that. I think Facebook really wants to get it right so that it can restore some of that trust among users and investors. And tonight Facebook says it's been working with the FBI and others. The White House tells us President Trump is aware of this latest disinformation campaign and that they applaud the actions Facebook is taking. Lester? Peter Alexander at the White House, thanks. What's our takeaway from that? Our takeaway is that this is bullcrap. Yes. Listen to the NPR goes into detail.

49:12 Like a lot like numbers and stuff two clips. It just makes it that much funnier So what details did Facebook reveal today about these ongoing efforts to disrupt us politics? So it said it disrupted a campaign that involved 32 accounts Facebook and Instagram accounts between March 2017 and may of this year and this campaign included an effort to organize counter protests for a planned white nationalist rally that's happening in Washington DC in a couple of weeks. Okay, counter protest against white guys. They use this fake account to reach out to genuine American grassroots Facebook pages to kind of

49:50 help organize logistics and build legitimacy and build interest in these counter protests. And what sort of impact did this campaign have? So it's kind of misleading, right, to think, oh, it's only 32 accounts. The impact is magnitudes larger. So over the last 15 months or so, they managed to attract a total of two hundred and ninety thousand followers. followers. And they made 9,500 posts, they ran 150 advertisements, and they even organized 30 events. And although Facebook doesn't track this in the real world, they couldn't vouch for whether the events occurred, people definitely signed up for them.

50:29 So tell us a little bit about who might be behind this. Did Facebook offer any information on that? So they said they weren't able to definitively say who was behind the influence campaign. And they just they didn't want to be totally conclusive about it. But here's what they did say. They said the campaign involves similar tools, techniques and procedures. that were used by the Russian Internet Research Agency during the 2016 campaign. So it follows a same kind of flow. And they also had another kind of tantalizing piece of evidence. For seven minutes, a known Russian Internet Research Agency account was made a co-administrator of one of the fake pages involved in this campaign. Oh, so of course we want to know more technical details. Have no fear.

51:12 Because the NPR cyber guy knows all. One thing that's really gotten challenging is that this round of political interference has gotten more sophisticated. If it is Kremlin linked, the Internet Research Agency or whoever was behind this, they're leaving fewer clues and it's becoming harder for Facebook to track it down. In the past, the Internet Research Agency occasionally slipped up and they used a Russian IP address, which gives us some clues for the origin of the campaign. But there's no sign of that here. And these actors, they used virtual private networks to mask their identity and third parties to place their ads to kind of hide what was going on behind the scenes.

51:53 A virtual private network ever hear one of those John? That's a Russian thing. Hope you're not using one. Those damn Russians. As their methods get more sophisticated, Facebook will have to get more sophisticated in finding out ways to track it and to stop it. Sheryl Sandberg, the chief operating officer of Facebook, even went so far as to say that this was a arms race. Did they talk about what sophisticated methods they will be using to try to stop future efforts like this? They were kind of a little shy in saying exactly how they might track down future efforts because that would give bad actors a way to kind of bypass whatever methods that they're trying to use.

52:31 But it does involve AI, it does involve pretty sophisticated methods, they say. Oh, pretty sophisticated AI, sophisticated methods. Shut up, we got it under control, it's all good here. But everybody is freaking out about the Russians hacking, even Fox, his own nut job about it. The other problem, and exactly what Bill was referring to, and that is that we already have an indication that they were into our utilities, into our infrastructure. If they wanted to, they could try and shut down the country. And that's why Dan Coats said that the system was blinking red again, referring to 9-11 and the great catastrophe. The Russians are toying with us. They are sending us warning signals, and Donald Trump simply must respond more forcefully than he has.

CHAPTER 14 / 39 Discussion

Michael Morell on Putin, Russian Election Interference

Former CIA Acting Director Michael Morell appeared on CBS to assert his certainty that Russia is behind ongoing influence campaigns on social media. Morell argues that Vladimir Putin has not been sufficiently deterred and continues to lie to the President of the United States. He advocates for the Senate to significantly enhance sanctions to "raise the pain" on the Russian leadership in response to perceived attacks on American democracy.

michael morell· cia· vladimir putin· sanctions· cbs this morning· nora o'donnell

53:17 I love it. All the mainstream media, and even though they they try to not conclude themselves, Fox is mainstream media more than others. They're all on the Russia, Russia's going to kill us. Russia, Russia, Russia. Let's get the CIA official. Oh, yes. So I was listening to Good Morning, the one Nora or whatever her name is. Nora and Gail? CBS this morning. So they have the CBS, this is Russian's Facebook with our buddy coming on to give his two cents worth. Facebook says it's cracking down on a coordinated campaign designed to interfere with the upcoming midterm elections.

53:56 Facebook removed 32 pages and apparently fake accounts that stoked emotions over divisive issues. More than 290,000 accounts followed at least one of the pages. Facebook says it does not have firm evidence of who's behind the effort, but it found similarities and connections to a Russian firm accused of meddling in the 2016 election. CBS News National Security Contributor Michael Morrell is with us from Washington. He was acting director and deputy director of the CIA. Mike, good morning. Good morning, Nora. Facebook has been reluctant to say it is the Russians, but do you feel confident they're behind this effort? Nora, I have no doubt that the Russians are behind the effort.

54:42 Without evidence. Yes, he's got no doubt. Let's go to the wait before you wait You gotta do one follow-up just so we see where this guy's coming up I do have the morale on Putin in the same thing this way by the way He went on for 10 minutes after she introduced him So I only put that little clip in but within that clip there was this little little tidbit about his feelings or somebody's feelings about Putin We have not deterred Vladimir Putin. What's absolutely clear is that he continues to interfere in our democracy. and he is doing it without cost. I think we need to, the Senate needs to, the President needs to significantly enhance the sanctions and raise the pain on Putin so that he thinks twice about what he's doing. It's also absolutely clear, Alex, that he has lied to the President of the United States on multiple occasions and I think we need to understand that and make policy based on that rather than what he says.

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Stephen Cohen vs. Max Boot, CNN Russia Debate

Professor Stephen Cohen and Max Boot engaged in a heated debate on CNN regarding U.S.-Russia relations and the definition of an "attack." Cohen criticized the "criminalization of diplomacy" and argued that low-level election meddling does not equate to events like 9/11 or Pearl Harbor. He defended President Trump's summit with Putin as a standard act of diplomacy, while Boot accused Cohen of being a Russian apologist.

stephen cohen· max boot· anderson cooper· cnn· diplomacy· cold war

55:41 Well, we need to revisit that. There's a lot of people still in Washington who remember the Cuban Missile Scare and who do hate Russia, but they hate the Soviet Union. And this is all big elites. Council on Foreign Relations is pushing this and just go and look at who's in CFR It's all these journalists the same people who are telling you that is Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia and they're horrible and they can bring us down they can shut down the country they're in our utilities everything hasn't happened, but I'll be very very afraid happen it can happen any minute. They're toying with us Yes, Steve Cohen professor Cohen was allowed on this. I have this clip. This is a good clip Yeah, he was allowed on CNN

56:26 With Anderson Pooper and the CFR shill. Max Boot. And I thought it was a... First of all, kudos for Professor Cohen, who I think kept his cool even though he's being accused... I thought he was getting about to have a heart attack. Well, for him he was pissed off, but he did it in... I know, I thought he did it in an adult way. But he's basically being accused of being a shill for Putin, who's a professor who's studied Russia for, what, 35, 40 years. I have no idea what Mr. Buddha's talking about. He wants Trump to threaten Russia.

57:05 Why would we threaten Russia? You've got two nuclear? attacking us Max boot is almost in tears when he's saying this you dare attacking us Russia's attack right now according to Trump's own director of national intelligence Russia I've been studying Russia for 45 years I've lived in Russia and I've lived here and you've been watching was a taxi rush and we would 45 Russia hasn't it right Excuse me, what did you say to me? I said you've been consistently an apologist for Russia in those last 45 years. All right, I don't do defamation of people. I do serious analysis of serious national security problems. When people like you call people like me, and not only me,

57:50 but people more eminently, apologists for Russia because we don't agree with your analysis. You are criminalizing diplomacy and detente and you are the threat to American national security. End of story. Why do you have to defame somebody you don't agree with? They used to do that in the old Soviet Union. We don't do that here. Well, we used to, but we need to stop it. So you just finally Steven you're saying Russia was not attacking the United States. I know what you're talking about They didn't during the 2016 election Russia attacked the United States. Yes, I don't think they attacked the United Okay, and yet you're just denied being a politician for Russia. You're apologizing for as we speak. Oh

58:29 Well, you haven't let me finish. You don't know what I'm going to say. The meddling began, Mr. Cooper. The meddling began right after the Russian Revolution when Woodrow Wilson sent American troops to fight in the Russian Civil War against the Commies. The meddling began on the Soviet and Russian side, let me finish, on the meddling side when the communists formed the Communist International 1919. Ever since then, Moscow's meddled in our politics, we have meddled in theirs. This is low-level stuff what went on. It is not an attack. It is not 9-11. It is not Pearl Harbor. It is not Russian paratroopers descending on Washington. This kind of hyperbole, an attack on America, suggests we need to attack Russia. So you've got Mr. Boot saying that Trump should threaten Russia? Exactly. It's lunacy. I'm sorry you cut off the end of that because he had one more point to make. Oh, I didn't have it.

59:26 Go to my clip and pick up the last part of it. Okay, listen from today talk to our politics We have meddled in theirs. This is low-level stuff what went on it is not an attack. It is not 9-11 It is not Pearl Harbor. It is not Russian paratroopers descending on Washington this kind of hyperbole an attack on America Suggests we need to attack Russia. So you've got mr. Boot saying that Trump should threaten Russia with what does he want to attack? You know what I think? I think that Mr. Booth would have been happy if Trump had waterboarded Putin at the summit and made him confess. Trump carried out an act of diplomacy fully consistent with the history of American presidencies. Let us see what comes of it, then judge. That is a good point. I'm glad we had that. And all of this brings me to my favorite sports presenter.

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Jason Whitlock, Cyber Humans vs. Real Humans

Sports commentator Jason Whitlock describes a "deadly culture war" between "cyber humans" and "real humans," where internet-shaped realities are dominating the real world. He argues that platforms like Twitter act as weapons for "thought police" and "lynch mobs" to bully the public into false narratives. Whitlock asserts that this digital environment filters out human nuance and fuels racial and political division across the United States.

jason whitlock· twitter· social media· culture war· fox sports one· bots

1:00:24 Jason Whitlock, who he's kind of summed this up in a two-minute segment here, which he calls cyber humans against real humans. There's a deadly culture war being waged that isn't being discussed on Fox News, MSNBC or CNN. Cyber humans versus humans. People whose reality is shaped by the internet versus people whose reality is shaped by the real world. Right now, cyber humans are crushing humans. It might be the most one-sided war in the history of the world. Cyber humans live on three planets. Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. They use Facebook to promote their delusional lifestyles, they visit Instagram for sex, and they use Twitter to control what all of us think.

1:01:14 Twitter is their weapon of war. Cyber humans control the media and celebrities, America's tastemakers, through Twitter. They bully us into buying into their false sense of reality with Twitter bots and thought police and lynch mobs. Twitter is why the media and celebrities believe police are indiscriminately killing large numbers of black men. Twitter is why Colin Kaepernick believes police brutality is a bigger threat to black men than mass incarceration and poverty. Twitter is why Kaepernick and his supporters think the best way to show that black lives matter is by being publicly angry when a white police officer kills a black man unjustly, and silent when a black man kills a black boy unjustly.

1:01:58 Twitter is a cesspool of 140 character bigotry. It's the virus spreading racial division in the real world. Cyber humans spend their lives locked in this virtual world, unable to see the humanity in their classmates, next door neighbors and co-workers, unwilling to accept that good people might disagree with them. They filter out flawed human beings and only let like-minded cyber humans enter their smartphone reality. They avoid connecting, talking and engaging in the real world in a real way. They duck their heads and stare at their phones. For cyber humans, it's safer to tweet and text and snap. But is it safer for us? Those of us who visit the cyber world but prefer living in the real one. There you go. The only thing he had wrong was the name. Cyber humans. That doesn't work.

CHAPTER 17 / 39 Discussion

AT&T Fiber Issues, IPv6 and Router Troubleshooting

Technical difficulties during previous broadcasts were traced to an AT&T fiber router and the implementation of IPv6. Disabling IPv6 reportedly resolved significant packet loss and connection interruptions, despite AT&T technicians advising against the change. The hosts discuss the necessity of using third-party hardware to maintain a stable stream, as the provided ISP equipment was deemed insufficient for high-bandwidth broadcasting.

at&t· fiber· ipv6· router· packet loss· troubleshooting

1:02:56 Well, it was okay. I liked the name. It didn't bother me. I liked it. The pitch was good. How about I-Zombies? I-Zombies. That's better. I-Zombies. It's a little more... It's appropriate. Yeah, everyone knows it was a good word. You can where'd that come from? From for from FS1 baby Fox Sports one that I watch all the time And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage to say in the morning to you John see where the C stands for conspiracy of Q In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. In the morning, Space Force! In the morning, all ships and sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, day and night is nice out there. Yes. In the morning to the troll room. NoahJendaStream.com. Everybody has been there. They were very helpful this morning. We have not had, I'll knock on wood, a single outage, John. They were there this morning when we figured out that we just had to turn off the IPv6.

1:03:54 It's been fantastic. Who the hell knew? But that's what it is. Thank you, Troll Room. NoagendaStream.com. Also in the morning, the Comic Strip Blogger. Once again, he's got his art featured nicely on the album art for episode 1055. The title of that was Tongue Jammin'. And this was the creepy broadcast system logo, which looked like lips or something else, depending on how you look at it. It was a mental... yeah. He also did the shithole Texas one, which was a good part, but we decided not to use it. You used it in the newsletter, right? Yeah, I used it in the newsletter. It was also, I think it's because of the... I don't know why, we didn't use it for a number of reasons, but it was good. Well done.

1:04:38 And I wanted to say NoahArtGenerator.com. That's where you can upload your art. And thank you Comic Strip Blogger and everybody else who helped us out. And we use it for all kinds of things. And your value is highly appreciated. No, what we talked about, Adam kind of touched on it, as other people should at least know about, was that he was determined that he has this router that was causing the problems from the last show, which was covered up by the editing. Yeah, we had 22 edits. Yeah, which as far as he's concerned, you might as well shoot yourself.

1:05:18 Looking at the forums, we discovered that his router has all kinds of issues. It's a piece of crap, according to most people. But it's the one they provide him with, and what are you supposed to do? And so, you can replace it supposedly. But somebody mentioned that things cleared up for them when they turned off IPv6. Yeah, and that's supposed to be the future of the internet. And so he turns it off and the problem disappears. And further on in the same comment that was in the forum, it was on AT&T's website too, which is funny, was the guy says he calls up to AT&T about this, turning this off, which seemed to clear up the problem for him.

1:06:02 And they said, no, no, no, no, no. You got to turn that back on. You got to turn it back on. The AT&T guy said that? Yeah. The AT&T guy goes nuts. They're probably sucking out statistics or something through IPv6. God knows what they're doing. It could be. There could be something going, something onerous going on. So turn off IPv6 on your AT&T. Yeah, if you have the, because I have AT&T fiber and we saw just so many interruptions and you know, I was doing work this morning and I was like, okay, I'm literally losing packets. So it's on my end. I love to- There's no reason to be losing packets at all, especially on gigabit. No, and I'm always happy to think the problem is on your end, because it usually is. But that's it. Yeah. But I'm going to get a proper router.

CHAPTER 18 / 39 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Nashville and Colombia Anecdotes

Scott Littler of Nashville donates $520 to name his daughter Elizabeth an executive producer, requesting "Colombian" sound clips to cheer her up. The segment transitions into a discussion on "Karma" requests, with listeners suggesting that the perceived success of these requests might be explained by quantum physics and collective intent. Additional donations for "job karma" are processed for various listeners starting new careers.

nashville· sacramento· colombia· karma· nannies· quantum physics

1:06:53 So that's what it is, and I'm very happy because the 20 it's not the edits. I don't care I'll edit a hundred times I can do them fast, but it really hurt the flow of the show free. It really hurts it So so let's thank a few people for show 10 60 56 We get it eventually so Scott Littler la TTL er in Nashville, Tennessee starts off at $520 Good man. Can't thank you enough for all that you do. The best podcast in the universe is the highlight of my week. I'd like to make the donation in the name of my 12 year old daughter, Elizabeth Littler. Making her a No Agenda executive producer and giving her a strong start toward future Damehood. She enjoys listening to the show whenever she's in the car or in the truck with me. And given the awful Nashville traffic between home and her school, she listens a lot.

1:07:42 This weekend I'm flying out to Sacramento secto to pick her up from her mother where she spent the summer vacation. Oh, she'll need new programming. Yep. We've been, yeah, she's been in California. She'll need to be reprogrammed. It's going to take a while, probably a month or two of solid listing. Just tie her down. We've been planning to meet in Redding so that I didn't have to drive all that way up to the Wairika. Oh, she's up in Wairika. The wildfire seems to still be raging up there. So if I'm to believe the news on Sunday show, you mentioned the fires and the rain sticks, but I don't recall an actual treatment being administered in NorCal, nor was there.

1:08:22 Might you give the Reading Mount Shasta region a little rain stick shake to clear the way it's already just clearing it's clearing and the harp is off So no worries, um two of Elizabeth's favorite no agenda clips are Colombians for Trump. Yeah, you know that one. Yes, I do And don't raff. Why are you raffing? Shut up. If you could please those along with karma, I would truly appreciate it. Lately she's gone bonkers for Japanese anime, manga, et cetera. And the Colombian woman does remind us a lot of her mother. So these two clips bring her to let into bring her to laughing tears when I fire up the no agenda soundboard. She's about to, uh, she's about to,

1:09:08 start seventh grade and the second year with her mother living far away, she's where she wants to be, heading back to school, but it's hard on her living with grumpy old me all the time and this Mr. Mom could use some help too. Is there finding a part-time nanny, Karma? How about finding a living babe? Yeah, really, dude, you're not thinking straight. Dude, you're not thinking straight. It could be great for both of you. This low donation talk this summer has been really concerning. It's hard to imagine Thursdays and Sundays without your news analysis, insights, and hilarious banter. I hope this small donation helps keep things rolling. Best regards. Okay. It's a little long, but I think we should play it if she gets such joy from it. And as an executive producer, hell yeah. Where are you from? Colombia.

1:10:02 And is this a setup? Did I ever meet you before? I'm his father! We are working! Yes! Mr. Trump! We go all the way to the White House! I've forgotten about this. You're beautiful. Thank you. Thank you, sweetheart. Thank you. Be careful. Don't laugh. That's so great. Why you are laughing? Shut up. Shut up.

1:10:49 You've got karma You know he should get a Colombian nanny I always forgot that clip that's very funny It's great, but he should get a Colombian nanny because a his daughter will like it and be there's some good little hot Colombian nannies Yeah, I guess just just just a tip Steven Boosinger, $500. I just left my old job in order to start my new job selling roofs. Then I realized that some job, Carmen, would be a good thing to release into the ether. Please make sure to pronounce my last name correctly so that way the Carmen knows where to go. Boosinger. I've been listening since 2011 and every episode is great. $500.

1:11:38 Thank you very much. Here it is. Here it is. You've got karma. There was an interesting tweet this morning that was at both of us. I don't know if you saw it. And people who are new to the show were thinking, what is this karma stuff? It's nothing we came up with. People start asking for it. Once someone gave us the harp sound, we start playing it. So it's by request. But it also appears to work when people ask for job selling karma moving karma job karma in particular with that's where we first noticed it really did appear to work Frank Yonan on Twitter said this morning regarding the karma stuff. Have you guys considered quantum physics as a possible explanation? With listen with eggs I have with uttered hope being not much more than charged particles causing quantum vibrations Mm-hmm science, baby

CHAPTER 19 / 39 Discussion

Viking Mom, Conservative Life in California

Jennifer, known as "Viking Mom," donates $400.17 and describes the social challenges of being a conservative in the San Francisco Bay Area. She discusses the "Walk Away" movement and the pressure to hide non-Democratic political affiliations in corporate environments like Facebook and Oracle. Having family roots in Sweden and Denmark, she also critiques the American perception of Scandinavian socialism, citing long wait times for medical services.

redwood city· san francisco· walk away movement· gavin newsom· socialism· scandinavia

1:12:35 Well, a lot of evangelical Christians have this thought that two or three people getting together, especially if they're holding hands and having the same prayer, it has an effect. Would you do a similar kind of thing if it was going to be blamed on quantum physics? I'm sticking to it. Karma is quantum. Jennifer aka Viking Mom, $400.17. Another unknown city. I just found your show and I love it. I just found your show and I love it. I know this is a little long but I hope that you read it all because I'm so sick of the echo chamber where I live here in Redwood City, California, which hosts the headquarters of Box Network, EA, Oracle,

1:13:21 which is almost next door to Facebook and 20 miles south of the poop-filled city of San Francisco. We conservatives have to call ourselves travelers so nobody knows we are not Democrats. Wait, is this true? If you're conservative in California, you have to sound like a traveler. I'm a traveler. Are you a Democrat? I'm a traveler. So it's what I do. I'm unaffiliated and you should be too. As a former, anyway, she goes on as a former leader of a nationwide woman's networking group with thousands of friends in California and across the country. I had to hide my feelings when women yell out, don't use Uber, use Lyft.

1:13:59 So when I decided to come out of the conservative closet in my first post about the walk away movement, not only were guns ablazing, but I could hear jaws hitting the floor. Women were saying, what's wrong? Do I need to talk? LOL shock and awe that a woman voted for Trump in California. I came out and I'm being more vocal now because I believe in order for California to change, respected people and leaders in the community have to start showing their difference of opinion without worrying about losing business or friends. Here's another bit. My husband is from Sweden and my dad has immigrated here from Denmark and socialism is bad.

1:14:36 Referencing Scandinavia as a reason why it works is deceiving. You want a 50 hour wait time for the ER? That's the fact they don't talk about. But I digress. So California, are you ready to pick up the poop? Then you have to do something more than occasional post on Facebook. Think a yard sign, a t-shirt, be vocal. Let's start educating by hosting face-to-face events, even if it's just getting five to ten of your friends together to discuss the upcoming election. If we keep silent, California will never flip back. We'll have to hit the ground running to make sure Gavin Newsom does not win the governorship. Okay, well that's my wish because I know California has conservatives. We do exist and when California flips the entire country will see the writing on the wall. We Californians don't really want to be our own country or fall into the ocean because of a giant earthquake or have a wall built behind us. We want to make California great again.

1:15:32 Anywho, I often recommend your podcast to all those who will listen and wanted to donate to the show in honor of my 40th birthday on August 17th where I will be having a party in the center of poop-filled San Francisco. Your friend out west, Jennifer, aka Viking Mom. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you do a cold read. You've got karma. Yes, I'm glad you're so proud of yourself. That was a nice note from Viking Mom. That was, uh... Well, I hope she picks up little tidbits from the show that she can use to ease people into it because it's going to be very difficult. Well, in California we have the, this is the state that has the voter election fraud. Yes. And that's so we have this domination from the people doing it.

1:16:23 And of course the media is all for it, so there's nobody's bitch as much about anything and everyone's happy. Everyone's happy that we have potholes everywhere, poop on the streets, nothing gets fixed. I was driving down the freeway to the airport. Here we go. And all you can see, there's areas of the Highway 80, I'm not gonna talk about potholes. I'm gonna talk about weeds. There are so many weeds. We have half the population of the state is in jail. They can't bring them out to pull up weeds? What, you're done? Come on! I'm done. Oh man.

CHAPTER 20 / 39 Discussion

International Donations, Peerage and Job Karma

Donations arrive from global locations including Shanghai, Brooklyn, and New Zealand, with producers seeking "de-douching" and peerage titles for their LinkedIn profiles. Sir Steve Schneider requests "human resource karma" for his upcoming firstborn child. The hosts emphasize that the show's "value-for-value" model relies on these diverse contributions to remain independent and ad-free.

shanghai· brooklyn· new zealand· linkedin· peerage· de-douching

1:17:01 Louis Lou Ludmilla Schaefer in Little Rock, Arkansas comes out 350 bucks. We have a lot of executive producers today. I want to thank them individually and we're doing that, but I want to thank them collectively too. Thank you for your energy you provide during your show. I've been introduced to the NOA Agenda three months ago by my dear friend Nahel Nahel, N-A-H-E-L. NOA Agenda makes life more motivational and informative. Thank you for your amazing job you're doing. Thank you and welcome to the party. Ivan Andriyovich Bastichev, Ivan Bastichev. Ivan or Ivan? It could be Ivan. It's Ivan. It's not Ivan. What am I thinking? It's Ivan Bastichev. And he's in Shanghai. $333.33 with no note. He's our Russian in Shanghai.

1:17:56 That's what it sounds like. Let me see. I don't know how many we can dig him up. I'll look later and if I find a note from him in the email, I will read it later. But thank you, Ivan. Matthew Phillips in Brooklyn, New York, $333. First time donator. Loved the show, wanted to be a producer to add to LinkedIn. Keep up the good work. Please give me a de-douching. You've been de-douched. Dropped down to our associate executive producer. Dropping right down to 200. James Story in Laura Hutt, New Zealand, 200.

1:18:36 Long time boner, first time donor. Please de-douche me and I'd like to give a shout out to my smoking hot fiance, Julia. You've been de-douched. Love the show. Thank you very much. And last on our list, the second associate executive producer, Sir Steve Schneider. Again, no town. Thanks for bringing us the best podcast in the universe with my beautiful wife. With my beautiful wife and I expecting our first child later this month, I'd appreciate some human resource karma for our firstborn and jobs karma for those in need. Yes, you got it Sir Steve Schneider and thank you along with your other associate executive producer James Story and then that nice list of executive producers. Thank you for keeping the show going as was already pointed out by Matthew Phillips. These credits are real, you can put them on your LinkedIn.

1:19:30 And people seem to get jobs with it and we also help out with the karma. So let's do that. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. And remember we've got another show on Sunday. Dvorak.org slash N-A. So now just like Viking Mom you can go out there take our formula and prop it. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Indeed. Yes. Well, we can go to a bunch of minor things or we can do the I got I got a little insight on the less moon vest story. Ah, yes, the president CEO of CBS who apparently Monday his fate will be decided by the board if he can stay on or not. Well, if he stays on, I can tell you someone who's going to be in a heap of trouble.

CHAPTER 21 / 39 Discussion

Les Moonves Sexual Misconduct Allegations, CBS Board Decision

CBS CEO Les Moonves faces multiple allegations of sexual misconduct dating back to the 1980s, as detailed in a report by Ronan Farrow for The New Yorker. While the Los Angeles District Attorney declined to pursue charges due to the statute of limitations, the CBS board is currently investigating the claims. Moonves has admitted to making "advances" in the past but denies misusing his position to hinder any woman's career.

les moonves· cbs· sexual misconduct· ronan farrow· me too· statute of limitations

1:20:39 Yeah. But let's get to that after we play Moonves latest. This is the update on NBC. Now to our NBC News exclusive in the scandal surrounding CS Network chief Les Moonves. We've learned a woman went to Los Angeles police last year with sexual abuse allegations against Moonves dating back to the 1980s. But Moonves is not facing charges in that case. NBC's Morgan Radford explains why. Tonight, what may be a seventh woman accusing CBS CEO Les Moonves of sexual misconduct. Prosecutors in Los Angeles declined to pursue charges stemming from those claims earlier this year because they say the statute of limitations expired.

1:21:18 The unidentified woman went to police last year, reporting one incident from 1986 and two others from 1988, according to an official document obtained by NBC News. If the statute of limitations has expired, there's simply no way to bring a case, no matter how strong the evidence is. This following the bombshell New Yorker report last week. The article details six women's accounts that include accusations ranging from forcible touching or kissing to physical intimidation between the 1980s and the 2000s. Stephen Colbert speaking out on his CBS show. Les Moonves is my guy and I like working for him. Accountability is meaningless.

1:22:02 unless it's for everybody. Moonves saying in part, I recognize that there were times decades ago when I may have made some women uncomfortable by making advances. Those were mistakes and I regret them immensely and I have never misused my position to harm or hinder anyone's career. In a statement last Friday, CBS said, we do not believe however that the picture of our company created in the New Yorker represents a larger organization that does its best to treat its tens of thousands of employees with dignity and respect. Moonves, who is staying in place during the independent investigation, is expected to speak at a CBS earnings call on Thursday. Morgan Radford, NBC News, New York. So what are you implying? Colbert will be in trouble? Oh yeah. Now, I thought that this was a Roger Stone or someone of his ilk.

1:22:56 behind this, but I couldn't put two and two together enough to say why, because Moonves is, you know, he's just a happy-go-lucky guy making lots of money on advertising during elections. But then when I heard Colbert, and I have to, and by the way, his job is to harm or hinder That's what he does. He's the CEO of CBS. So I'm not here to harm or harm his career. Of course, he makes and breaks. That's the definition of what he does. It's what he does. It's his job. But okay, whatever he says is fine. I have two versions. I have the complete Colbert.

CHAPTER 22 / 39 Discussion

Stephen Colbert, Les Moonves and Accountability Monologue

Stephen Colbert delivered a serious monologue on "The Late Show" addressing the allegations against his boss, Les Moonves. While acknowledging that Moonves hired him and supported the show during its early struggles, Colbert argued that accountability must apply to everyone, including those in power at the network. The hosts speculate that Colbert's public condemnation of his benefactor could lead to professional repercussions if Moonves retains his position.

stephen colbert· les moonves· late show· accountability· me too· roger stone

1:23:32 speech, which is what it was. It's almost just over two minutes. And I have just the part that's important. Oh, screw it. Let me hear the whole thing. Can we laugh? This would be Colbert. No, it's not funny. This is Colbert on Moonvisit. He brings out everything. And in within this spiel, I realize why roger stone decided and when they said that this thing that they just threw at him from was from last year twenty seventeen is woman who comes out of the blue and says i will you try to rate me nineteen eighty five whatever. This is, this, this, so in other words, this happened a while ago when they started going after Moonves and it just took, it took Ronan, you know, Ronan to end up finally bringing him kind of down. But when you listen to Colbert, I want to explain after we listen to Colbert on Moonves complete, I'm going to tell you what happened. Folks, before the break, I was over there. I made a few jokes about my boss being in trouble. And are we still broadcasting?

1:24:35 You know what? Don't tell me, I like a surprise. And here's the thing, we're coming up on one year of general awareness of the Me Too movement. And I think that milestone is worth celebrating. But it's hard to think of an appropriate anniversary gift when the entire Amazon wish list is just, stop it! By the way, women who wanted to stop it also searched for justice. And women over the past year have felt empowered to tell their stories in ways they haven't before, which is an objectively good thing. Because, and it's strange to have to say this, powerful men taking sexual advantage of relatively powerless employees are wrong. We know it's wrong now.

1:25:27 And we knew it was wrong then. And how do we know we knew it was wrong then? Because we know these men tried to keep the stories from coming out back then. I don't remember... I don't remember any ads in Variety saying, congratulations to me on all the butt I'm groping. Wait, he's really gonna do a two-minute apology for this guy? Is that what this is gonna wind up to be? No. That said, and this is obviously naive on a certain level, the revelations and accusations of the past year just in the entertainment industry alone have been shocking. To me.

1:26:05 To many of the women I know, it has brought a welcome sense of relief that something's finally happening. Now, as a middle-aged guy with some power in the entertainment industry, I may not be the ideal person to address this kind of systemic abuse. Who am I to judge? I'm a Catholic. Still. And when I go to confession, I have things to confess. First, that I don't go to confession. And that I just lied to you for a bit. But this weekend, some people asked me, probably because I work here, what do you think is going to happen? I don't know. I don't know who does know. In a situation like this, I'd normally call less. But over the past year, there's been a lot of discussion about whether the disappearing of the accused from public life is the right thing to do. And I get that there should be levels of response. But I understand why that disappearing happens.

1:27:02 Because there's a JFK quote that I like and I cite a fair amount on this show and it's that those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable. And for so long for women in the workplace there was no change, no justice for the abused. So we shouldn't be surprised that when the change comes it comes radically. This roar is just a natural backlash to all that silence. So I don't know, I don't know I don't know what's going to happen, but I do believe in accountability. And not just for politicians you disagree with. Everybody believes in accountability until it's their guy. And make no mistake, Les Moonves is my guy. He hired me to sit in this chair. He stood behind this show while we were struggling to find our voice. He gave us the time and the resources to succeed. And he has stood by us when people were mad at me. And I like working for him. But accountability is meaningless.

1:28:05 Unless it's for everybody whether it's the leader of a network or the leader of the free world Luckily we got Trump in there just at the very end. Thank goodness good work You know yeah, I slipped that in so he threw moonves under the bus Yeah After he goes on and says the thing that I think triggered the whole thing I didn't realize that moonves according to Colbert right there made his show happen, he's the one who hired him. David Letterman always bitched about the fact that Moonves never asked him once who he should hire as his replacement. He was irked about it. And nobody consulted anybody, it was Moonves who picked Colbert and put him in the show. And then it was Moonves who helped him along the way, and it was probably Moonves who directed him to become this anti-Trump kind of a caricature.

1:28:59 That would be enough to make Moonves a target of a Russian spy. Aha! Yeah, well, okay. Now, I just want to remind you that's not how Colbert started out. In fact, he was failing until he started becoming Mr. Anti-Trump. Yes, and who pushed him in that direction? Les Moonves. Yeah, he was failing and he said so himself. And Les Moonves really wanted that because, and we probably have the clip somewhere, he knows that that just brings more ratings with the controversy over the president, which brings in ads. He was very vocal about that in his shareholder meeting, how great the president is for advertising.

1:29:41 Right. So he, but this is makes him a target of a Roger Stone dirty trick. Yes, yes, yes. And this is paying off. Meanwhile, maybe, maybe. Yes, go ahead. Well, meanwhile, if I'm Colbert and I had a guy do this for me, pick me out of the blue, put me in the show. Nobody else got me on the show. He put me in the show. He fixes the show, which I believe he probably did because the guy is something of a programming genius. Yeah. or even defending Moonves, because Moonves says he didn't do any of this stuff and he's my guy and so I'm gonna support him because he's the guy that... In other words, instead of taking one for the team or falling on the sword or doing anything that you would do with somebody who did all that for you, instead of doing that, he condemns Moonves. He goes out of his way. Can you believe the gall of this guy? He goes out of his way to do it even. Yes, he didn't have to do this long bit. You heard it.

1:30:50 I think if Moonves somehow stays in, which is possible, because the CBS guys aren't stupid, and they can do maybe, oh, we'll suspend him, they can do some of the things you should do. And Moonves gets his job back, this guy is out. I like it. Put it in the book. It needs to be in the book. Yeah, it's going in the book. Outstanding. And by the way, here's the other thing. Here's another thing that's a problem with what he did. If somebody new comes in, how can you trust this guy? Right. He's now untrustworthy because you don't do this to your boss. Yeah, Colbert kind of loses either way.

1:31:33 Yeah, he can't win. He's done. Why would he have done that? Because he's stupid. He actually believes his own, you know, his own propaganda. I mean, he's, he thinks higher. I think he's got a big ego or something. This was this. What about single dumbest thing I've ever seen a guy at that level do? Do you think he could be taken down by a me a me too thing? I think he's pretty judgment proof. I don't think so. He's a real choir boy. Seems unlikely. I mean, it's possible he could trump up something, but I don't think they need to. He just killed himself right there.

1:32:14 It's unbelievably crazy because he's just showing off. You know, I think I'm a big shot and I think everyone should be accountable including my boss after all the things his boss went through for him. He should have just been quiet. Yeah, he didn't have to do any of that. Not that I'm advocating, you know, quietness around the issue. This is a political situation for him. Yeah. Well, I think you're spot on with that. And please note it in the red book so we can check it off when he gets canned. Canned, I tell you, canned. Move over to Euroland for a second. A report now reveals that in one outskirt of Paris there are 300,000 illegal migrants living in basically a ghetto.

CHAPTER 23 / 39 Discussion

Saint-Denis Migrant Ghetto, Spanish Sales Force Anecdote

Reports indicate that the Paris suburb of Saint-Denis has become a ghetto housing up to 300,000 illegal migrants. An anecdote from Spain describes migrants arriving by boat and immediately being integrated into a "sales force" selling counterfeit luxury goods on street corners. This suggests a highly organized infrastructure for utilizing migrant labor in the informal economy across Europe.

saint-denis· paris· migrants· spain· barcelona· gucci

1:33:07 Did you read about this? No. Where's this ghetto? Is yours not just a gypsy encampment? Let me see if I can find the actual... It's Paris, but I'm just trying to find... Oh, here. Saint-Denis. Saint-Denis. I know where Saint-Denis is. I've been there. Yes. Home to as many as 300,000 illegal immigrants. When was the last time you were there? What's it like? What's Saint-Denis like? I was there 20 years ago. What was it like 20 years ago? It was a fair suburb. They're all fairly similar, very nice, a middle-class area. Yeah, well, apparently now it's not so nice anymore. Well, that's what I understand. Yeah, you know, my childhood friend Hans called me from, he lives in Sitges, which is south of Barcelona. It's a beach town, a little quiet. It's actually, it's like a super gay beach town, which makes sense for him to live there.

1:34:07 And, you know, I don't know if you saw that video in Spain of the migrants landing with rubber boats and just running up the shore. Yeah, they're scattering. So I'm talking to him, he says, oh, you know what happens with them? I said, no, because it's happening here too. He says, they run, they run into the city, they've got their safe house, they get dry clothes, and the next day they're out selling fake Gucci bags on the corner. He says the Gucci bags arrive either by truck or maybe even with the same migrant shipment in the rubber boat and that's the next day the same guys are there just selling these bags everywhere. It's a sales force. It's a sales force. It's a sales force. It's not migration, it's a sales force. Space force, sales force.

CHAPTER 24 / 39 Discussion

Whole Foods Changes, Amazon Integration and Dating Culture

Observations at the Whole Foods flagship store in Austin, Texas, reveal changes in food preparation and portion sizes following the Amazon acquisition. Specifically, crab cakes are now reportedly pre-made and smaller in weight for the same price. The store's cafe culture is also noted as a popular "meat market" for dating, where individuals use the free Wi-Fi to work while socializing over wine.

whole foods· amazon· austin· crab cakes· wifi· dating

1:34:57 Salesforce I thought it was fantastic. I'm like holy crap. No one is talking about this All right, it's fun when you talk to people once in a while from overseas if you're following Amazon and their stock Which I'm sure you and Horowitz do. I just wanted to give you a little tip, a little report of what's going on because I frequent the Whole Foods here in Austin, Texas. It is of course the flagship store. This is the headquarters of Whole Foods, one of the many things Austin is known for. Oh, is Austin responsible for this? Is that where it started? Oh yes, oh yes. Yes, as you know we are the capital of live music so that's why Whole Foods is here. Makes sense.

1:35:42 So I'm always talking to the, you know, the fish guys and the meat guys and you know, just seeing what's up. And I've always liked their crab cakes. And so the, but the crab cakes have been out. We know why they were out because of the crab pickers. There was an issue. That's how we learned about it in the first place. This is Whole Foods, good Intel, WF Intel. And the crab cakes are back. And I look at them, I said, they're different. And in this case, the girl says, yeah, you know, this is really, I'm not happy about this. What do you mean? Well, we used to make them here. But now they send them the goop pre-made, they send it over to us, and then we just roll it in the breadcrumbs. And they used to be six ounces, now they're five ounces for the same price. Now, I don't know if this intel is helpful for investing, but they're definitely making moves in the Whole Foods.

1:36:43 Well, they've been making moves on the Whole Foods since the day bottom. Well, this is the this is the first like provable noticeable thing I mean, they haven't really changed the format, but there's also these weird I think they have Wi-Fi detection That's a been so I've never really looked at the ceiling and Whole Foods Why would I but I but I looked up the other day and there's these weird it looks like a light with a reflector But it has some other kind of element in it, and I don't believe it's a light because it's kind of a shiny Mmm, like a matte, shiny but matte finish reflector and it has a... it looks like a like an antenna element and I'm not sure what it is. Yeah, if you turn on your... oh, you can't do this. No, I cannot do... well, it wouldn't help me anyway. Well, you could look and see if there's Wi-Fi networks available. Oh, they have Wi-Fi, sure they do. Oh yeah, you got to sign in and everything. Oh yeah. Oh, they got Wi-Fi. People sit at... people pick up dates at Whole Foods.

1:37:44 It's a dating mecca. It's a meat market. Really? Yes. Oh yeah. I didn't think that just from somebody just subjectively looking at it from as a third party. I don't think the selection is that good. Well, I heard about it from Tina. It's kind of like the celery selection. Tina told me about this. I'd never paid attention to it. I've seen where they all sit down and you know, and they're using their laptops and they're drinking wine. Maybe in that little cafe. Yes, in the cafe. The cafe, that's where you got to be. Now the rest is all yoga pants. I tell you there's a real problem with the cafe.

1:38:20 You have to eat their food. Yeah, that is problematic. Yes. But I see women there all the time drinking, guys, single guys drinking. Hey babe. Like at three in the afternoon, they're sitting in a little cafe drinking and so yeah, they got Wi-Fi because everyone's got their laptops and their phones out and they're all looking all important. So anyway, there's nothing more you can't look any more important than being in a free Wi-Fi area Doing your work Yeah, you look super important is great Well while we're on food. We've had war on men. We've had war on straws We have war on chicken. What are the wars of war on cash?

CHAPTER 25 / 39 Discussion

FDA Milk Labeling, Plant-Based Dairy Alternatives

FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb is considering enforcing federal standards that define "milk" as a product derived from healthy cows. This would potentially force manufacturers of soy and almond beverages to change their labeling. The National Milk Producers Federation supports the move, while critics argue that modifiers like "soy" or "almond" are sufficient to prevent consumer confusion.

fda· scott gottlieb· soy milk· almond milk· labeling· dairy

1:39:06 And now we finally have the war on milk. The FDA is looking into a change that would mean no more soy milk or almond milk, at least not by those names. Commissioner Scott Gottlieb talked about the possibility of starting to enforce a federal standard that defines milk as coming from milking of one or more healthy cows. The National Milk Producers Federation says it agrees that plant-based dairy imitators violate federal standards with their label, but The Good Food Institute argues that the term milk should be permitted with modifiers for non-dairy drinks, hence the name soy milk or almond milk. The FDA would have to first notify companies of the change and ask for public comment.

1:39:49 We discussed this on the show some time back, and this is not really a war on milk. It's a war on the misuse of the word milk. And we've decided, I think then we agree that it should be soybean juice. Sap. I like sap better if I recall. Soybean sap. I still like juice. No sap. You see that juice would work in one of our clips. You don't have to see that sap. No, we don't have a clip for it, but I'm sure we could find, you know, someone will come up with a, you know, with a sap clip. Oh my gosh! Can you see that juice? And the other thing is it's not really sap. It's juice. Sap comes from the... It's not really juice either. It's just water with chalk shavings. Come on. It's not juice. It's not. Juice comes from something you squeeze. You don't squeeze the almond.

1:40:43 These things are just shavings. That's true. You just make a slurry. Okay, that should be called almond slurry. Slurry. Because it's a slurry. That's what it is. Slurry. It's a descriptor and a brand at the same time. Yeah. Yeah, slurry. Hey, everybody. Have you tried curry slurry? Mmm. Oh, man. I wanted to restate my position on something. Okay. But don't mock me right away. Oh wait It's about Bitcoin. Oh Yeah, and my argument about Bitcoin has always been it's not money and until I can pay my rent with it It's not money then and I think that still holds true Then of course some people yet, there's lots of things you can buy with Bitcoin, but I can't survive on Bitcoin alone So it's not money, but I do think it's a doomsday machine and as I've been studying

CHAPTER 26 / 39 Discussion

Bitcoin as a Doomsday Machine, International Money Transfers

A revised perspective on Bitcoin highlights its utility for international money transfers, bypassing high bank fees and regulatory hurdles. The discussion explores Bitcoin's hard-coded inflation schedule and its potential to act as a "doomsday machine" for the traditional central banking system. While still volatile, its scarcity and security are presented as a hedge against government asset confiscation and traditional debt-based economies.

bitcoin· coinbase· inflation· central banks· money transfer· satoshi nakamoto

1:41:47 It's just so many so many conferences these days Bitcoin this blockchain and that by the way, I think most other blockchain stuff, you know, it has its place but it's really completely separate from Bitcoin and I noticed this myself when my daughter She needed she need my credit card for some like some travel thing and she only has a debit card and they were hassling her about it and she said You know, I'll pay you back just give me your bank details. I'm like or my manager will pay you back Whatever it is like no, I did please don't do that. It never works. It never arrives. There's always a problem PayPal is the same, you know, so put a hold on you put a hold on your account. It's a big pain in the ass So I said just send it to me in Bitcoin and you know an hour later I have it now that to me was an eye-opener. I was like, oh

1:42:39 You know, there's a very complicated process that just got circumvented and it was very easy for me. I have a Bitcoin Coinbase whatever account so it was easy to to turn that into dollars and it was you know, there was less if anything changed in the In the dollar to Bitcoin price at that moment, it was made up by the fact that there wasn't a $25 processing fee. So there's something to this. And I think what has happened is Bitcoin has been mis-evangelized for 10 years. And the real power now I'm starting to see is twofold. One is it is absolutely storable.

1:43:22 You can store value in this for a short period of time without much risk. And you can do things that are really quite impossible, which is transferring money across the world. So hands down, fantastic utility. The other thing that it does is it has a set built-in inflation schedule. So the way that Bitcoin does have inflation, when it first started 10 years ago was about a thousand percent and or a little the timelines of the law, but about a thousand percent and now it's very consistent it's gone down to 4.2 percent or around four percent inflation. But we will see this change as according to the its inflation schedule which is hard-coded it can't be

1:44:12 manipulated by a central bank or by the Federal Reserve, it will change and we will see, I think, a built-in increase in price as something called the halving takes place for those. And I don't think we have enough time or have enough knowledge to explain supply demand of something and how it can really affect the price when it comes to inflation and a currency or an asset. But built into Bitcoin, there can only be 21 million bitcoins, and the closer we get to that number, the harder it is to create the actual Bitcoin, which is the next piece which is important. If you look at history of

1:44:52 Items people have used for money. They've used anything that was scarce so big round stones In a place that didn't have that type of marble or that type of stone. They've used glass beads which worked great in in the east but then the Travelers from the West made those beads at home came over and then the beads were kind of useless because people were in effect counterfeiting their money at the time And eventually we came down to precious metals and gold and other things like diamonds and there's lots of types of Objects that you can store value in that will people will recognize and accept Not for cash not not as cash not for buying a candy bar or anything like that, but for storing it. Absolutely now I think that as people like my daughter and her agent somehow as they see the value of at least having some

1:45:46 Some money in Bitcoin for simple things like a transaction which really is like being part of the bank transaction network I mean that's very powerful when you consider if I want to transfer the money to her or she transfers to me first it goes to her bank and then it sits there and Then you know they may actually decide okay, we'll transfer these fake digits over there because it's such a small amount or we trust the sender and But there's settlement and that settlement takes place in the middle of the night and there's all kinds of back and forth and it's a very inefficient system. Banks now too are starting to use Bitcoin and only not blockchain, not Ethereum or Ripple or anything else but only Bitcoin because the security of the network is so vast over these 10 years that it's been built up you can actually trust that that money, that value, significant identifier will transfer within a reasonable amount of time to you. I think that we will see at least one central bank

1:46:48 decide to either probably to start buying Bitcoin and it may already be happening, but I think someone will announce it'll be some weird-ass country and it could trigger everybody jumping on to this or you know maybe the Federal Reserve would Would be interested as a hedge. You know why not they have gold there's all kinds of different assets I think it's now strong enough for them to do that, but if that happened I think we move from a world where people are just use credit cards and debt all the time to a world where at least some money is put into Bitcoin because of two reasons. One, it's easy if I just need to transfer it somewhere or do something. It's not really good for illegal stuff because it is trackable. But at the same time, and I think this will prove true over time because of the inflation schedule, which I hadn't really understood very well,

1:47:46 that the value of Bitcoin against the dollar, but against any currency, will consistently rise. It'll go up and down, but we'll see another big spurt after this. We already have 20,000. It could easily surpass that on the next spurt, but that probably won't happen until the end of 2019. And you and I, neither of you, you or I, unless quantum computing really hits big, we'll ever see the 21 million Bitcoins made because they're hard to make. So just like gold you can find gold you can mine gold You know it's not a cheap process and you can make money that way But you can't just really go printing gold that easily and Bitcoin is the same way so I think that we move economies will move away from This debt system and people will have some actual it's still all virtual and just a concept But they'll have this idea of money that they're actually saving instead of running on debt and

1:48:41 And I think that could actually, when I say doomsday machine, blow up the entire way the central banking system functions. And I believe it's already underway. Saruman! Ha! Okay. Yeah, I didn't think you'd be too into it. Yeah, I could be into the thought that the bankers, these bankers have been running the world for the last 500 years or plus, are going to just be swept aside by this Satoshi whatever his name is product Bitcoin because they're dumb.

1:49:27 and they just soon give it up. So we can have this doomsday machine that you described. I'm glad you went on about that. That was a very long spiel, I should say. But okay, whatever you think, I don't care. What your real argument is, wow, I could get this money transfer without paying an extra $25. And all those inefficiencies the way the banks are. The banks have been trying to fix it. The pop money zell seems to work. Yeah, but it doesn't work internationally. It's a there's international solutions. No, there isn't. I would I would. OK, well, I'm not here to argue. I'm giving you my revised opinion. You said you got your money. You got your money with, you know, no problem. And that's great.

1:50:13 I'm saying that's not meaning that's great. I think it's because the banks can't get their act together to get the money around because of various regulations. A lot of it has to do with that. The US government, you can't even open a bank account up overseas. Okay, so here comes the second point. Why I like it. So let's say you just have some money stored in Bitcoin. The government can easily confiscate your house, your car, they can put, you know, garner your wages. There's a lot of things they can do to grab your assets. Bitcoin, ultimately, you can just store a number in your head and have no other way for anyone to take that away from you.

1:50:54 and shoot you in the head. Yeah well then it's gone, it's gone forever and then it's no use to you either. I think that's a pretty big deal for someone who has had his wages garnered and bank accounts frozen. All right well put your eggs in the bitcoin basket then. I'm going to and I'm going to run as the bitcoin president and I was going to ask you to be my VP I'm out. Really? Come on. You get a nice house, all we have to do is the show and just follow the Constitution. And then the only policy change we make is we turn the Federal Reserve into a Bitcoin mining operation. Theramin. No, no, no, no, no. You already had one theramin.

1:51:41 I'm changing my position. I think that definitely has a future I'm not sure where it fits in but it has a an actual verifiable and I use it future good Glad you feel that way. Let me write this show date down. I Didn't expect you to be all over it. No, of course not. Uh Sean Spicer came on Jimmy Kimmel and To change the subject radically. Oh, yeah. Is this book out or another book or what is he? He's got a book and Kimmel decides to kind of he does a pretty soft job of it but insults him. Where is it? I don't see it here. Kimmel, Spicer. Ah, okay. I was looking for Spicer. Kimmel, that's my problem. You know, I like my mom, my dad and my wife have been my strongest advocates and supporters and I think there were clearly times where she felt, you know,

CHAPTER 27 / 39 Discussion

Sean Spicer on Kimmel, Bob Woodward's "Fear"

Former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer appeared on Jimmy Kimmel Live to promote his book, facing light mockery from the host. Meanwhile, the White House is reportedly bracing for the release of Bob Woodward's new book, "Fear: Trump in the White House." Woodward, famous for his role in the Watergate investigation, is expected to provide an inside look at the tensions within the current administration.

sean spicer· jimmy kimmel· bob woodward· watergate· fear· trump

1:52:42 felt for me in a way that only a mother can. Did she ever say, go in there and tell that son of a bitch Trump to stop making you lie? My mother would never speak like that. She would never speak that way. God. Yeah. Meanwhile, another, it's kind of a counterbalance to that clip was, you know, Stephen Cohen doesn't get a lot of airtime and he doesn't get on CNN much. He'll probably never be back. But Seymour Hersh also kind of disappeared from the scene. He was blackballed. He was a Pulitzer Prize winning, highly decorated investigative journalist. He's a role model investigative journalist. But he came on something and he just threw a commentary out. I believe this is on CNN or one of the ones or maybe not. But this is I thought this was worth listening to. I think the days I worked were much simpler days. Now we have something called cable news, 24 hour news.

1:53:37 and which is so easily manipulated by the White House and by others, particularly people in Congress with one axe to grind. And so now you have really no independent news. My view is that for disliking Trump is catnip for the cable news companies, MSNBC and CNN who are hostile to him. On the other side you have Fox News which is friendly to him. You have the major papers in New York In Washington, the Times and the Post, good newspapers, but very hostile to Trump and jumping on everything he says. So you really have, it's good for rating. Yeah, it's great for ratings. And I think everyone's talking about Bob Woodward's book. We should be seeing him everywhere pretty soon. Yeah, I don't think the CIA has finished writing it yet. Let me see, what is it called again? Why can't I find it here?

1:54:39 Hmm. Oh, yes here. It is White House braces White House braces for new Woodward book now Bob Woodward one of the Co-author who brought down and Nixon with a Watergate scandal. That's why people love this the title of the book is fear Trump in the White House Great Yeah, and it was a reading some article about about the media about the press and that pretty much everybody who was in media now today grew up with Burn Woodward and Bernstein and they all got into journalism wanting to be them and

1:55:20 Would that fit the description based on the people you know? No, I think that's not true. I think those people are already passed by for the new millennials that are in journalism and they're post Watergate. And many of them don't even know what Watergate's about and none of them would get the movie, which was one of the greatest movies anyone who remembers that era, the movie Dick. Oh yes, we watched that. That was good. That was a good movie. It's a very good movie. And today's millennials and people that are working in the business right now, in the journalism, because there's not that many oldsters left, they all went into public relations, writing native ads. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. There's no difference in those two paths.

CHAPTER 28 / 39 Discussion

PR Newswire, Journalism and Fact-Checking Decline

The state of modern journalism is critiqued for its heavy reliance on PR Newswire and the decline of professional fact-checking. Many news stories are reportedly derived directly from corporate press releases, with interns checking facts against Wikipedia rather than primary sources. This shift has led to a news cycle driven by social media outrage and "native ads" rather than independent investigative reporting.

pr newswire· journalism· fact-checking· new york times· wikipedia· daily caller

1:56:05 No, it's the same path, but they're in public relations so they're told what to write in a different way. Yeah, it's just a different style, but it's still the same infrastructure. And so they, the people currently working, I believe 90% of them would not get the movie Dick. Was it, is it Newswire, PR Newswire? That's maybe that's where the story came from. PR Newswire, which I always thought was just shady operation. Apparently they only look shady on the web with it. You know, they always had these really horrible press releases and

1:56:40 You know, if I remember, you know, years ago on the show, I'd be like, oh, where'd you read this? Oh, it's a PR Newswire. Oh, well, PR Newswire really feeds AP and Reuters and all these other guys. And I'll have to dig up this this article. It's some high number of 75 or 80 percent of all news stories you read come through PR Newswire. I don't believe that for a minute. I think PR Newswire is huge and they do and they produce so much copy that a lot of news stories do get picked up from these, what I think are many times lame

1:57:23 News, these are classic old public relations news releases, which always require, which has way too much input from the company requiring that our CEO needs to be quoted stuff. So you have a quote for gratuitous quote from the CEO because he needs to be quoted. I think a lot of stuff comes, you know, that stuff still gets pulled out and it's all gets completely rewritten. But I don't believe that number. Well, and I was trying to see if I could find this interview with I guess it was one of the founders of PR Newswire. It's a lot more than that. They have all these other divisions.

1:58:04 Oh, it's a huge operation. Huge operation. Well, the only reason I bring it up is I believe that that is really the genesis of today's journalism where, okay, here's these stories that are fed to us. The stories come in. We used to have fact checkers. We've talked about this. They really don't exist anymore. I've been fact checked by the New York Times maybe twice. The last time was when the iPhone came out, when a fact checker called me to ask some questions. There is no budget anymore for the fact-checkers. So most of that goes, you know, checked against Wikipedia or some other online sources by an intern. And we move to today's journalists who have kind of been trained this way. Fact-checking is... that's... no wonder everyone made such a big deal about fact-checking because they don't actually do it anymore. And now that's been outsourced to a whole bunch of groups that

1:58:55 Who are going to be the bastions of truth including Tucker Carlson's Daily Caller Foundation like screw all those guys telling us what's true and what's not true so now The new place to get your news from instead of PR newswire. Yeah, that's the old generation is Twitter And that's why we're seeing all this bullshit in the news It's just, oh, there's an outrage, we grab it, we make it into a new story. Good example here. This is the baseball story. We live in times of instant mass outrage. Someone does something, says something, or is seen doing something, and they can be demonized with a click. The next time you might be tempted, think of this.

CHAPTER 29 / 39 Discussion

Chicago Cubs Foul Ball, Social Media Outage and Retractions

A viral video from a Chicago Cubs game led to the false demonization of a fan who appeared to steal a foul ball from a young boy. Social media users and mainstream outlets quickly labeled the man a villain before it was revealed he had actually collected four balls and distributed them to children in the stands. While the Cubs provided the boy with a signed ball, the incident serves as a cautionary tale about the speed of unverified online outrage.

chicago cubs· foul ball· twitter· outrage· npr· javi baez

1:59:37 and the fourth inning of Sunday's game between the Chicago Cubs and St. Louis Cardinals. I want to point out another sports story from Adam Curry. The Cubs first base coach tossed a foul ball to a smiling youngster in the stands who wore a Cubs hat endearingly too large for him. The kid bobbled the baseball. What people saw next in video clips that zapped around the world was a man with close cropped hair who sat behind the boy, scoop up the baseball and give it to the woman next to him. Tweets and other social media posts began a barrage about the man who filched a foul ball from a little boy. There could be no doubt. We saw it. The Cubs front office quickly dispatched a staffer down to the seats. He gave the youngster a new ball signed by Javi Baez, the Cubs shortstop. The little boy smiled under the brim of his boat-sized hat and held up two baseballs. The Cubs tweeted the photo to say, a Javi Baez-signed ball should take care of it.

2:00:34 What the Cubs discovered from people nearby was that the man in question wound up with four balls during the game and gave three to children, including the young man who had appeared to be swindled. He also gave one to his wife. It was their anniversary. Julian Green of the Cubs said in a statement, unfortunately, a video that was quickly posted and unverified has made a national villain out of an innocent man. The man doesn't want to be identified, but said through the team, many foul balls came our way that day and were happily shared among the children in our area. No one left disappointed. I am not that guy that the media and social media made me out to be. And I saw the video and I thought the same thing. I thought, oh, geez, what a douchebag. But this was big. I mean, everybody reported on this.

2:01:26 And oh, by the way, where's the retraction? Kudos to NPR for doing that. Well, there's no such thing as a retraction on Twitter. No, but it went from Twitter to mainstream publications. You see, this is how it works. The journalists sit around trolling on Twitter, waiting for something to happen. They look at trending, refresh, refresh, refresh. Oh, there's something going on! Oh, it's with Trump, even better. Let's report on it right away. Fact check, fact check. That's what's going on. Well, not to do. Hopefully it's not what's going on the way you describe it, but they do pay attention to Twitter. It's like, you know, there's a news feed. What? You know, I was thinking about news feed. If your email worked like Twitter's news feed, you would shoot yourself in the head. Seriously. OK, well, explain what you're looking at your news feed. All of a sudden, an old email pops up.

CHAPTER 30 / 39 Discussion

Twitter Feed Changes, Facebook User Retention

The hosts debate the functionality of social media feeds, comparing Twitter's chronological order to Facebook's algorithmic sorting. There is a discussion on "shadow banning" and how platforms may be filtering political content, such as the feeds of Representative Devin Nunes. One host argues that Facebook is losing users due to poor interface changes, while the other maintains that the platform remains dominant despite personal grievances.

twitter· facebook· news feed· algorithms· shadow banning· devin nunes

2:02:28 Wait, there's an email from someone I do didn't send the email to me But it was posted there because there's someone who I know received the email so I got a copy No, why is email work because it's one feed one inbox? chronological order I was somewhere down there and somewhere Tuesday you see the difference I It's a huge difference. Yeah, and so one is a method of communication, the other one's a method of mass micro-blogging by the public at large to which you either subscribe to or don't. But time, the essence of time is what people, the only thing we really have in our heads is we know, we understand to some degree time.

2:03:14 And an overview of something now I I think that the what Twitter has done and they're really messing around with their feed now is Stupid they're gonna end up like Facebook people are gonna hate it It's good. It's it's gonna. People are gonna hate it people are flocking away Facebook's gonna go under next week. That's right well I don't know, but I don't it's not gonna go under I Think what I mean Facebook's gonna go under night. What are you saying? I mean the way you're saying you know people are bailing out They hate it. They hate it. You're the only guy knows bailed out, and I'm not still not convinced. You're not gonna go back hmm Well, I'm seeing a different trend yeah, cuz you're bailing out and you're you've you you're like that you're like this unlike me you're like the gal gave up smoking and

2:04:06 And although you're not this type, but you're like the guy when it comes to Facebook, maybe you are, but you're like the guy who gives up smoking and then makes a big fuss or a guy who gives up alcohol is even worse, makes a big fuss over everybody who didn't give it up or still drinks or still smokes. That's the way you are with Facebook. You quit Facebook and now you see it all as negative and you're just projecting your hate No, you're projecting your bullshit on me right now because I am just informing you of things I'm seeing and trending has nothing to do with what my personal belief is about Facebook. I you know, okay, well now talk about it. The show will be 10 minutes shorter douche. No, you hate Facebook. Now you're hate you're hating on Twitter.

2:04:54 I'm not hating on Twitter, I'm telling you that they're changing things that are detrimental to what they do. That's a legitimate statement, it has nothing to do with... I hate Facebook! And I resent you saying that, honestly. Well, I'm sorry you resent that, but you don't like Facebook. But you view me through the filters that you are, my friend, so I'll leave it at that. Well, I've never used Facebook, so I don't really know. When it comes to Twitter, I use Twitter a lot and I don't see any changes. I think it's the same crappy system it's always been. They don't take it, they don't, they leave, they kind of, the only thing I've seen actually is people like Devin Nunes and these people that used to just subvert by bouncing them and putting a clown bozo filter on them. I'm now seeing their feeds. Hold on a second. I just need to put my cue glasses on. I feel better that way. Go ahead, continue.

2:05:49 I'm seeing an improvement in the kind of feeds I get on Twitter. I think they've fixed some of their problems or at least they've covered them up in a positive way. Okay, great. Okay, so? Nothing so. I mean, I'm there a man. I'm an old, I'm just a... No, you're there a man. Someone who stops smoking and is just angry and pointing it out. Yeah. No, no, that's not, it's not true.

CHAPTER 31 / 39 Discussion

Peter Strzok Testimony, FBI Mobile Security Policies

A technical analysis of the Peter Strzok testimony reveals that the FBI's mobile security policies are significantly weaker than those of many private corporations. A listener with expertise in Mobile Device Management (MDM) notes that the FBI apparently allows personal smartphone use for work without the stringent containers and tracking used in smaller private networks. This lack of oversight is cited as a major security failure within the Department of Justice.

peter strzok· fbi· mobile device management· encryption· phi· golden ratio

2:06:26 All right, but okay subject then now you please go ahead. Let's hear your fabulous things you have brought today. I got nothing All right, we have a few people to thank for the show 1056 including I've got a note from this guy Oh yeah, Duke Benonymous. Let's see, Duke named Benonymous. He says, I've been something of a douchebag due to an extended gap in employment. He is a Duke. So I must atone for it with a magic number donation. 160-179. Thanks for sending me down the rabbit hole. I learned so much just listening to you two. I was delightful to discover the amazing properties of phi or pi.

2:07:32 and how it ties the universe together. The donation drought was due to my wife losing her nursing job in 2017. She was out of work for over six months and she earns twice as much money as me. I was forced to change jobs to increase our cash flow, but things have definitely improved these days. Now she's working at a much less stressful job, making more money than her previous gig, and even though commute still sucks, we both certainly are better off than before. He goes on with his, with his job background. He says he was very impressed with your meticulous deconstruction of the Peter Strzok testimony, particularly because it revealed that his mobile device management policies I administer on my network are far more stringent than what is enforced at the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

2:08:19 Frankly, is it appalling that the FBI even allows its staff to use personal smartphones for work? In our network, we lock down all company-issued phones, so we not only block users from installing unapproved apps or games on their devices, we can track their usage, monitor text messaging, and wipe the phone clean if it's ever lost or stolen. If a user wants to use their personal smartphone to access work email, they must first enroll their device with a company portal. I know the guys like this. We need a guy like this. We maintain that all company data is isolated in a secure encrypted container. He goes on about bitching about these guys. Why is the Justice Department of the United States government using weaker security policies than our little 1300 user network?

2:09:05 Phi, not pie, phi, P-H-I, phi 16179, was that the donation? Yeah. It's the golden ratio. Ah, right. Yeah, yeah, just an old Facebook angry man over here, Don. What do I know? Hey, get off it. Jonathan Hess in Heidelberg, Deutschland, 10101. Thanks for the sanity. No jingles, no karma. Two anonymous donations, both for $100 for some reason. One in Baltimore. Keep my donation anonymous from Baltimore. Here's a nice hundo for your hard work. Anonymous 100. Please keep me anonymous. Okay, geez. You know, you can do 249.99 donations and that's a guarantee. This is no guarantee.

CHAPTER 32 / 39 Discussion

Peerage Titles, Palindrome Donations and Value-for-Value

The show processes a series of "palindrome" donations (e.g., $81.18) and assigns new peerage titles to long-time supporters. Sir Fac Bass is elevated to Baronet Yahnamine, and several other listeners receive "de-douching" certificates. The hosts reiterate that the "value-for-value" model is a grand experiment in independent media, thanking the "knights" and "dames" for their financial support.

peerage· baronet· palindrome· value-for-value· donations· peerage map

2:09:55 Sir Chuck, Nomadic Knight of the 49th Parallel, also $100. I'm contributing $100. Thank you for both of the entertaining and informative job. Baron Ledeckin, Sir Fac Bass in Houston, Texas, $100. He's gonna get a title change. He becomes a baronet today. Baronet Yana Min? Yana Min? Yana Min. Ya-na-min. Yana Min. Yana Min. Good for me. Michael Delosier in Merville, Tennessee. 9009, which is the perky boobs donation. Ah, my favorite. Boing, boing, boing. We have, so we actually have three. And then there should be combinations, which makes it funnier. Wait, this is the palindrome though. Perky boobs. All the boob donations are palindromes. Right, right. But you specifically asked for a palindrome in the newsletter.

2:10:57 Yeah, because of the one coming up, 8-1-dot-1-8. It was the date of the newsletter. Right. So these are not just perky boobs, these are calls to action. Am I missing you something? Yes, calls to action. Women, wear a bra. No, no, you said do a palindrome. Here's the donation, 81-18. Yeah, he did a palindrome. Yeah. And he did say it. He says also a palindrome. So he was referring to the 81-18 with a little extra money. No, he's the only one by the way. Morgan Neck, but these people did donate 81-18. It was another gimmick. Morgan Neck, Robert Cohen, Hylko Santema in... Santema. Santema. Santema in Houghton. Houghton. Houghton. You want some job karma? We can get that at the end for you. And then we got this huge note, which I'm not going to read. From Debo. That's Debo from Toledo.

2:12:01 Yeah, Debo from Toledo. Hugs and kisses. I was hit in the mouth by a fellow x-ray technician about two years ago. Aaron. Aaron, but he needs a de-douching. Okay. You've been de-douched. Okay, well that would be nice if I put that in there and then the cursor worked. Al Aversa in Charles City County, Virginia, 81-18. We got ten people that did this. Robert Dieter in Sacramento, California. Sir Leron of Circle Town, Dotham or Dothan? Dothan, Alabama. This fine newsletter compels me to donate. Sir Kevin McLaughlin, Viscount of the Moon in Norcast, Norcast, Norcast, in Locust, North Carolina. Gabriel Gabrielson. Oh wait, yeah, he has a...

2:12:57 No, Sir Kevin McLaughlin, Viscount of the Moon? Yeah. He wants an F-cancer for his Uncle Huey, so we'll do that at the end. Okay, good. Paul Gabrielson, 81, 18. Sir Gottenate and Sebastopol, 69, 69. Jason Sparks in Reynoldsburg, Ohio, 6006, to the small boobs. And so says Mary Brough, 6006 in Wheat Ridge, Colorado. And she needs test-taking karma today, coming up. Anthony Rodriguez in Faber, Virginia, 6006. Oh, I, yeah, okay, same thing. Constantine Theophilos, Theophilus,

2:13:47 In Woodstock, Illinois, 55, 56. And these Jobs Karma, which we'll have for him, Jobs Karma. 55, 56 from Stephen Lind. 55, 55 from Robert Bruckner. 55, 55 from Pete Federici. Jobs Karma coming. I don't know what all these 55, 55s are about. Carl Madden, 55, 55 from Enfield, UK. He's got a birthday coming up. Sir Bob with a dude's name Ben. A birthday. Yeah. And is Carl Madden on the birthday list? Yeah, he sure is. Sir Bob, with the dude's name, Ben, NC4RG, 73. 73's. Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie. Echo Mike, 5335. Mike Martinez, 5111. And finally, the $50 donors, including name and location, Bradley Ledin, Jason Van Buskirk.

2:14:43 Caleb Crossman in Salem, Oregon. Black Knight Sir Lineman of the Net Raleigh Hawk. Black Knight Sir Lineman of the Net Raleigh Hawk. I can't remember that's from Anna, Illinois. Tyler Schimpf in Bothell, Washington. Luke Barnes in Salem, Oregon. Don't inhale him. Michael Barco in Salem, Oregon again. Different guy both in Salem. That's interesting. Hey Luke Barnes, just reading his note here. Sadly this will be my first and most likely last donation at least for some time. I recently purchased a house and I'm a full-time college student so money is tight. No kidding you could have two houses and more time on your hands and he wants a deducing so I'm just gonna deduce. You've been deduced. Hmm.

2:15:38 Michael Barco we mentioned, Oysten Berge in Holland, John Horner in Bay St. Louis, Mississippi, Sir Brian Watson in Raleigh, North Carolina, and last but not least, Oakland's Sir Alan Beam, I want to thank all these folks for helping us out on show 1056. Yeah, good showing everybody. Thank you very much. This is our value for value model. We've been doing it for a while. It's a grand experiment and so far it's been working. We're still on the air. Everybody provides value to the network. There is no agenda one way or the other and we cannot do it without the financial donations. It's really the easiest way.

2:16:20 And just send whatever you think the show is worth to you. That's always been our position and we appreciate how much people appreciate it. And another show coming up on Sunday. Remember us at... Dvorak.org slash NDA. Okay, we got lots of karmas to deal with here today. You've got karma. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. And we say happy birthday in advance to Jennifer, a.k.a. Viking Mom, an executive producer on today's program. She'll turn 40 on August 17th. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.

CHAPTER 33 / 39 Discussion

Meetup Announcements, Seattle and Arlington Events

Upcoming listener meetups are announced for Seattle, Washington, and Arlington, Virginia. The Arlington event at Lyon Hall has seen a high number of RSVPs, leading to jokes about the local CIA population attending. "Tina the Keeper" is also organizing a future meetup in Austin, Texas, with discussions ongoing about whether Friday or Saturday is the optimal day for local commuters and travelers.

seattle· arlington· meetup· vaughn's 1000 spirits· lyon hall· tina the keeper

2:15:38 Michael Barco we mentioned, Oysten Berge in Holland, John Horner in Bay St. Louis, Mississippi, Sir Brian Watson in Raleigh, North Carolina, and last but not least, Oakland's Sir Alan Beam, I want to thank all these folks for helping us out on show 1056. Yeah, good showing everybody. Thank you very much. This is our value for value model. We've been doing it for a while. It's a grand experiment and so far it's been working. We're still on the air. Everybody provides value to the network. There is no agenda one way or the other and we cannot do it without the financial donations. It's really the easiest way.

2:16:20 And just send whatever you think the show is worth to you. That's always been our position and we appreciate how much people appreciate it. And another show coming up on Sunday. Remember us at... Dvorak.org slash NDA. Okay, we got lots of karmas to deal with here today. You've got karma. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. And we say happy birthday in advance to Jennifer, a.k.a. Viking Mom, an executive producer on today's program. She'll turn 40 on August 17th. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.

2:17:32 SirFaq Bass came in with another donation that brought him up to level of Baronet on our peerage map, so he will henceforth be known as Baronet Yahnamine. Y-A-H-N-A-H-M-E-A-N-M-E-A-N. Yahnamine. And we, uh, Congratulate him with that and thank him profusely for his contributions to the NOA Agenda Show. And then we need to mention we've got two meetups happening. We have August 10th in Seattle, Washington from 6pm to 8pm at Vaughn's 1000 Spirits. Sounds like a drinking hole to me.

2:18:14 Downtown Seattle you familiar with this establishment No, but it's going to be I think if you go to Mimi's got something set up I'm gonna send a mailing out. I'll mention in the next newsletter. We'll have some details Yeah, meetup dot meetup calm. I think she's really taking over the group what happened all of a sudden She's in boom. She's taking care of business. I Don't know maybe we're not making enough money I have no idea, but she did do that and she's got these things posted there. I don't like meetup.com. Now, no one seems to really like it. Because for one thing, they do cutoffs and that you don't want, like, for example, I don't think you need the RSVP for these things. I think you just show up. There's a big one in Washington, D.C. I think you're about to mention.

2:19:04 Yes, it is apparently gonna have 45 people or something for some reason Well half half the CIA is gonna be there. Well, let's hope so. It's in Arlington actually in Arlington, Virginia August 12th from 12 p.m. To 3 p.m. At Lyon Hall L y o n Lyon Hall. What is this Lyon Hall? They had a lot of RSVPs like a lot. And I just don't, these things generally speaking get about 20 people, 25 people sounds about right for the little area because this is not a national meetup. Right. But, and I don't know that we have that many people. We don't, I don't see donations. How many donations we had today from Washington DC? None. We, we, we, we often have one from one or two from Arlington, uh, maybe from time to time one from, uh,

2:20:00 Richman Virginia, but that doesn't count. That's Richmond is not a CIA area. Yeah. Well here. Let me sort check it out. This will be cool Okay, how do I sort? Can I just right-click and say sort no of course not yeah, you know of course that would be to make too much Thanks, Microsoft. I don't know how to do this Data and whereas we're sort never mind you're gonna get Scroll down and you can see well we had Faber Faber, Virginia. That's one is that anywhere near? That's the only one that I can see Did we have no I thought we had another our about Maryland? Where's Maryland? We got no Maryland not really no Fairfax, Virginia. Oh that that would count yeah that definitely counts and

2:20:53 That's Strasburg, Virginia. Best show ever. I won't say who it is because it's $20, but down at the bottom there's a few. Oh, okay. So what do we know? Well, we'll see, won't we? Hey, Virginia, step it up. If there's so many of them, then Canada's beating you. Oh yeah, Canadian beats Virginia usually on every show. Yeah, see and Tina the Keeper is working on the Austin, Texas meetup. It seems consensus is Saturday a lot of people will be flying in a lot of people travel Some people said ah, we really want to be Friday. Then we have the whole weekend. You know, it's like no No, look, it's just gonna be a few hours on Saturday and we're thinking maybe one of these cool beer places beer

2:21:49 What do you call it? Plenty of beer places. Yeah. Beer place. Yeah. Now the reason for doing Friday, we're doing Friday because there's two arguments that go on every time you want to do Friday or Saturday. The Friday argument, which I had in Sacramento when I did it on Friday was, Hey, we're here. We're we commute to work. We're in Sacramento. We're in the city. We can do Friday. If it's Saturday, we've got to come all the way from home, which could be our drive away. And it's just not, we're not going to do it. But we're already here, we're in Sacramento. So Friday's argument is that people that are there don't have to go home. And then Saturday the problem is, I don't know what the problem is with Saturday, is that they don't want to come in. So we try both. What's Washington, D.C.? Is that Saturday or Friday?

CHAPTER 34 / 39 Discussion

IBM Watson, Oncology Recommendations and Marketing Claims

Internal documents reveal that IBM's Watson for Oncology often provided "unsafe and incorrect" treatment recommendations. Despite marketing claims that the AI was trained on real patient data, it was actually programmed using hypothetical scenarios created by doctors at Memorial Sloan Kettering. In one instance, the system recommended a drug that could cause fatal hemorrhaging in a bleeding patient, leading to accusations that IBM is experimenting with human health in real-time.

ibm watson· oncology· sloan kettering· algorithms· jeopardy· medical error

2:22:43 I only have the logically be Friday. What's August 12th? Let me just check on the calendar August 12th is Sunday, huh? That's that's a very interesting. That's well something We wouldn't think of Sunday as a meetup day if we were going to attend obviously no we do a show on Sunday Yeah, oh yeah, that's right. They said they may be listening to the show as a group on Sunday. Oh Okay, nice It'd be kind of cool very nice. Okay. I'll goes algos and more algos Well in this case it might actually be true, what is the Largest commercial algo you've ever heard of that is being sold as genius

2:23:34 One-click buy on Amazon? No. Watson, of course. What Watson was designed to do was to give practicing oncologists recommendations at the point of care to treat patients who are in front of them. And according to IBM, at least in its marketing, these recommendations were supposed to be based on its analysis of real patient data. These internal documents that we reviewed found in fact that that was not the case. The way the system was trained was hypothetical scenarios and recommendations were being fed into it by doctors at Memorial Sloan Kettering who were basically inputting their own preferences for treatment. Doctors on the other end of that who are using the system were finding that

2:24:22 The recommendations just were not very valuable or relevant in the care of the patients. In some cases it looks like in your writing they could have been harmful. One patient who was hemorrhaging, who was bleeding, Watson recommended a medication that you're not supposed to give when somebody's bleeding. In some cases the recommendations that were put out through the system were inaccurate, had no foundation in clinical guidelines, and in some cases were found to be unsafe or dangerous to patients. But has anybody died from this or had a negative outcome from Watson's recommendations? That we know nobody has been harmed as a result of the recommendations. Watson gives recommendations and they're designed to be used in concert with a physician who would consider them and decide whether or not to put them in place for a patient.

2:25:15 We don't have any evidence that as a result of any of its recommendations, a physician has been led down the wrong path and given a patient treatment that's been harmful. But what's clear is that in the case of the use of this technology, IBM is essentially experimenting with it in real time. Following the algos, algos, following the algos, algos, following the algos, following the algos, algos. I think our stock tip of the day is to short IBM. Well, I wouldn't give a stock tip like that because they do other stuff, but...

2:25:51 This thing has been a scam since the get-go when they were on the Jeopardy show. And the reason it was, it had all the answers, true, and it got them right, but it had to jump on hitting the button. Yeah, of course it did. Of course. So you take the answer, as soon as they asked the question, boom, it's just the instant button you hit, because there's no hand movement to go down and slam the button, you know, there's nothing physical. And so that was at a, that should have been discounted. Yeah, well, it wasn't. But now it's making very incorrect recommendations. Yeah, that's good. And to have your flagship product, consumer facing flagship product to be labeled as experimenting in real time with people's health. I don't think that's a good look, say the least. OK, that's why. Well, they lied to us then because they didn't have one bunch of guys who was Sloan Kettering. I have the story. I think that may be something to watch. OK.

CHAPTER 35 / 39 Discussion

Dog Saliva Infection, Greg Manteiffel Medical Crisis

Greg Manteiffel of Wisconsin suffered a life-altering medical crisis after contracting a rare bacterial infection from dog saliva, resulting in the amputation of his arms and legs. The bacteria, Capnocytophaga canimorsus, is commonly found in healthy dogs but caused a severe septic reaction in Manteiffel. The story has sparked discussions about the potential for new veterinary vaccinations and the rising trend of "dogs are people too" in modern social settings.

greg manteiffel· dog saliva· bacteria· amputation· sepsis· capnocytophaga

2:26:51 Now this is, we know about the dogs, dogs, dogs, dogs. You mean dogs being people too? Yeah, and dogs being everywhere and too many dogs. There's dogs everywhere, it's unbelievable. The dog walking, the whole thing. Now this is a very strange story. This is the weird Don saliva disease. When he gets out, Greg Manteiffel wants to drive his motorcycle again. His wife, Don, is hopeful prosthetic technology can make that possible. Little things in life, you take for granted, I guess. In late June, what appeared to be a simple flu turned into something much more frightening. He just

2:27:29 exploded into bruises and swelling and he just became worse. Doctors told them Greg was having complications from an infection, later discovered to have come from a bacteria found in dog saliva. We counted about eight dogs that he probably came across. He doesn't want anybody to think he doesn't love dogs anymore. He loves his dog. He wants to see his dog. I mean, because it's not the dog's fault. It was just some crazy thing that happened. Now without both legs, both both hands and surgery is still ongoing, Dawn says the man she loves is battling back with an unflagging spirit.

2:28:06 Yeah, what is the story here? I read this dog licks the guy. Yeah, but where'd he lick him in the nose and a new cut and we don't know but he got licked the next thing he knows he loses both arms and both legs Sorry, I'm laughing only thing I can think of that would cause this and all the bruising all the rest It really does sound like a leprosy But that was extreme case then. How long did it take before he was the lick between the lick and the chop? Well, they don't explain that. They don't explain why it wasn't stopped. They don't explain why it wasn't given antibiotics immediately. They don't explain anything in this story except the dog licked the guy and he lost his arms and legs and and in what sounds like a leprosy. Now it's possible that dogs carry leprosy. There's something going on with this story. Good meme.

2:28:56 Hmm, maybe it's time for some vaccinations for our dogs that there's a market It's a big market huge. Maybe there's the cat lobby. I'm not sure You know I don't have to bing it I'm sure there is one I'm sure there is a lobby for cats Anyway, this is we have to keep tabs on this because this is not gonna this story's not going away. I I'm liking the vaccination angle. I think you did. I'm not going to argue it because the vaccination if they figure out what it is. Yeah, dogs. Yeah. Then then it's just a scam. And there's the word Dame Tanya Viscountess of New York City sent us a personal dog note.

2:29:41 No agenda memes keep popping up, I realize because you guys spot these things a mile away. This past weekend I went to the wedding of a millennial couple and their dog walked down the aisle with the groom and both of his parents and was part of the wedding party. It was a dog-themed reception with each table named after the couple's friends' dogs. Oh my god! Dogs or people too? That jingle apparently triggers dogs worldwide whenever we play it. That's probably because of the barking. You think? All right, here's another one. This is a kind of a sad story, but this is like the naive, I don't know what to, I really don't want to say anything bad about the story or about these people or about anything. I mean, I think they, you know, it was probably a great idea at the time.

CHAPTER 36 / 39 Discussion

Tajikistan Terrorist Attack, American Cyclists Killed

An American couple, Jay Austin and Lauren Gagin, were killed by ISIS-linked terrorists while cycling through Tajikistan. The attackers rammed the group with a car before stabbing the survivors, killing four tourists in total. The couple had been chronicling their world travels on a blog, seeking to prove the kindness of strangers, but were targeted in a region where ISIS has been actively recruiting.

tajikistan· isis· jay austin· lauren gagin· terrorism· cycling

2:30:38 Sounds like a good idea and everybody appreciated it, but this is the American bikers who were killed in Tajikistan. ISIS has been decimated, but it is still active not only in Iraq and Syria, but farther east in Central Asia, where the group says it killed an American couple that was bike riding around the world. Here's Chip Reid. A little more than a year ago, Jay Austin and Lauren Gagin gave up their comfortable office jobs in Washington, D.C. He with the federal government, she with Georgetown University for the adventure of a lifetime, traveling the world by bicycle.

2:31:14 On their website, Simply Cycling, they chronicled their adventures as they pedaled thousands of miles through Africa, Europe, and Central Asia. Austin wrote of bumpy roads, strong headwinds, and tough challenges, but also of the freedom to see some amazing places, meet some wonderful people, and spend lots and lots of time with a really lovely girl. The dream for the 29-year-old couple ended suddenly Sunday in Tajikistan, near the border with Afghanistan, when they and two European cyclists were killed by suspected terrorists who ran into them with a car, then attacked them with knives. Three other Europeans in the group were injured.

2:31:57 ISIS, whose membership has been growing in recent years in predominantly Muslim Tajikistan, claimed responsibility for the attack. Tajik authorities say police tracked down the five suspects and killed four of them. Yeah, this has been filmed apparently, although I haven't seen the video. They hit the bikers first and then they got out of the car and started stabbing them. Yeah. That's messed up. And I'm thinking, you know, bike cycling in the wine country of France through, you know, or down the Rhone Valley is one thing. But bicycling... In Tajikistan? In Tajikistan or anything, you know, that's like this, it's just, I don't know, maybe I'm just conservative, but it just seems like it doesn't seem safe. No. And it's not. No.

CHAPTER 37 / 39 Discussion

Voter ID Debate, Registration Verification Issues

President Trump's call for universal voter ID laws has sparked a debate over election integrity and disenfranchisement. Critics argue that such laws disproportionately affect minority populations, while proponents point to the lack of verification in the current registration process. The discussion emphasizes that without a centralized database to cross-reference citizenship and death records, the potential for fraudulent voting remains a significant concern.

voter id· donald trump· cbs news· election fraud· motor voter· citizenship

2:32:59 It's sad. The whole story is sad, but it's also confusing. I'd like to know why. What's the point? Why did they do this? Did ISIS claim it? Yeah, the story goes on. ISIS did claim it. Did they say why? No. I mean, since when is Tajikistan... They hate bicycles. I don't know. Maybe they... There's your future right there. It started off with a podcast about hating bicycles. And before you know it, they were mowing them down in the streets. I've got another one of these stories, a voter ID story as presented. This is the voter ID story as presented by CBS. Yeah, I don't know how much of a story this is. President Trump says he wants to require all voters to show their ID. Well, yeah, it's just immigration blather, right? No, this is because Trump said

2:33:57 Okay there's a big about him saying you need you need a ID to buy groceries yeah even though it was very vague anyways just she's just talking to one of his audience is one of the big you know rallies where he just says all kinds of stuff and so they everyone jumped out like he's an idiot. President Trump says he wants to require all voters to show a photo ID when they go to the polls. The president was in Tampa, Florida last night for a rally ahead of the state's primary this month. Mr. Trump pushed for voter ID by making an erroneous comparison with grocery shopping. You know, if you go out and you want to buy groceries, you need a picture on a card. You need I.D. You go out and you want to buy anything. You need I.D. and you need your picture. A photo I.D. is only required for buying certain items such as alcohol, cigarettes and certain medications. With more on the president's remarks, we want to bring in CBS News White House correspondent Weijia Jiang.

2:34:56 Hi, Weijia. You know, critics argue voter ID laws disproportionately affect minorities and poorer populations. Is that a concern for the president or is all of this just playing to his base? Well, that is not a concern. That is a concern that critics have when the president continues to bring up this issue, which is not new for him. In fact, he adopted this line of attack on the campaign trail and he claimed that three to five million people voted illegally in the 2016 election. And he made those claims without any evidence and to this day has yet to provide it. But critics say, in fact, when you look at different studies that have been made, in fact, one,

2:35:37 from the NYU Law School that really examined the number of fraud cases during the election. It was 35. What was this? 35, you're telling me in the entire US election there were 35 and that's it? You know, the problem is that there is no verification when you register. That's really where the problem begins. There is no centralized database and there's a whole bunch of reasons for that. There's no verification. And when you say, yes, I'll, of course I'll register. And in fact, the motor voter registration drive, college kids pushing at schools, hey, just register. Yeah, but I'm not a citizen. Just register anyway. And then you get signed up, you go, they say, you're already registered, you're good to go. There's no check anywhere. So I think that's, I don't understand why we're all about this ID, ID, ID. Let's just do that with the registration process. That's where I think it would be best solved.

2:36:38 is make sure that that's when you have to prove your citizenship and that can be done in a number of ways and then you can show up with no ID I guess which is the case not exactly the case but kind of the case kind of that I think that's where the problem is. Well it's definitely one of the problems. Dead people voting is another one. And I'm sure there's more than 35 dead people who voted. To me, it's shocking that the registration process has no verification. I mean, it makes no sense. It doesn't seem like it would be really hard to cross-reference that.

2:37:17 And you don't need to know what party someone's registered as. If you registered, okay, check. Done. That's it. And then, you know, cross-reference with the dead file. I mean, there's a master file for that too, of dead people. How can this be so hard? The answer is there's a lot of people who don't want it. And I think that's probably because illegal votes are votes. Illegal votes are votes too. I don't think it behooves anybody. And if you had to go through too much rigmarole, it's just less people gonna turn. Actually, it seems like a great idea for politicians. Don't they want less people turning out? The fewer the better? It depends on... it depends. Depends. Some people want a lot of fake votes. If I'm running and I can get all the fake votes, hey, I'm all for it. No voter registration, no nothing. Let's just vote. Vote me in.

CHAPTER 38 / 39 Discussion

Jim Acosta, CNN vs. Trump Rally Crowds

CNN correspondent Jim Acosta complained about the "vitriol" and "hostility" he faced from crowds at a Trump rally, stating it felt like he "wasn't in America anymore." The hosts mock Acosta's dramatic framing, comparing his experience to the rowdy crowds at MTV Spring Break events in the 1990s. They argue that being heckled is part of the job for high-profile media figures and does not constitute a physical threat.

jim acosta· cnn· trump rally· fake news· enemy of the people· mtv spring break

2:38:15 Final clip for me is I have some I want to provide some feedback since I understand these situations and and This guy needs to shut up and stop over drama and dramatizing his life. This is Jim Acosta. Oh Geez, what is with this guy? Now, we probably all saw the video of him on his little podium there at the Trump rally and people surrounding him saying CNN sucks. Yeah, that was good. But just from your observation, did that seem like a lynch mob to you, an angry mob, or did it seem like people who were just having a good time saying that you suck?

2:38:59 I think it was people having a good time saying you suck. If it was a lynch mob, the guy would have been knocked down. Exactly. Has become one of the president's favorite human punching bags. CNN chief White House correspondent Jim Acosta. Jim, we've seen your videos and I've been to these events too. I've met with countless Trump supporters. Even I was shocked at the level of vitriol that was aimed your way last night. Give us an idea of what it felt like to be in the middle of it. Well, SC, I mean, honestly, it felt like we weren't in America anymore. I don't know how to put it any more plainly than that. Americans should not be treating their fellow Americans in this way. But unfortunately, what we've seen, and this has been building for some time since the campaign, I've been talking about this as an issue since the campaign, when the president during the campaign referred to us as the dishonest media, the disgusting news media, liar, scum and thieves and so on, and then he rolled that right into

2:39:54 office and started calling us fake news and the enemy of the people. He is whipping these crowds up into a frenzy to the point where they really want to come after us. And we have these bike rack like barriers around the press cage as we call it to protect us essentially from people who might take things too far. It's unfortunate because, and I try to calmly talk to a lot of these folks, at the rally last night to say listen hey you know tell me what you want to talk about here why are you guys so upset with us and they would kind of go through a list of questions most of most of the questions were about why don't you guys report positive news about the president I said hey you know what we do that

2:40:33 We were reporting on this positive job numbers in the economy last Friday and my sense of it, Essie, is that these opinions that these folks have at these rallies, they're shaped by what they see in the prime time hours of Fox News and what they hear from some conservative news outlets that just sort of give them this daily diet of what they consider to be terrible things that we do over here. at CNN. It's very unfortunate, but it's a pitting of American against American and honestly it needs to stop. Okay, Jim Acosta, you're a whiny little bitch. Man, I've been in this situation. You know what? You scared? You scared little man of people calling and saying CNN sucks? Did you really feel scared? Try MTV Spring Break. Okay? Stand up in the middle of Spring Break and have people going, Metallica man! Play more Metallica! It was a sport to throw beer on my hair to get it to go flat. It was a fucking sport during Spring Break.

2:41:37 You have any video of that? Oh, there's tons of it. The Budweiser boat. I'm flatlining on my hair like Mona Lisa. And I had some hair back in the day. Oh yeah. This is what happens when it doesn't matter. Come on, you stand up. I didn't realize this was going on man. It's American against Americans. Americans need to stop doing that bro. It's really horrible. That's what you should have said. You should have gotten on the mic and said exactly what Acosta said. That would go away. Hey, don't do that. Americans against Americans. You've got to stop it. And you know what the response would be? Metallica!

CHAPTER 39 / 39 Discussion

Philadelphia Bulletproof Glass Bill, Dignity vs. Safety

A controversial bill in Philadelphia seeks to force "stop-and-go" liquor stores to remove bulletproof glass partitions. City Councilwoman Cindy Bass argues the glass is an affront to the "dignity" of the community, while store owners—many of whom are Korean-American—maintain the partitions are essential for their safety in high-crime areas. The debate has led to accusations of racial targeting and concerns over the potential for increased violence against merchants.

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2:42:16 I know exactly how that... They've been throwing the cans at you. Yeah! I mean, beer, I've had so much beer thrown on me. It's what happens, it's when people are all jacked up, it's like, get used to it. Oh, this drama. This drama! It's, uh... What a douche. But Costa's not very good. But he is good at complaining. That he's good at, yeah. And framing, complaining and framing. Yeah, framing. I do have the dignity, this is a funny story, this is in Philadelphia, one of the, you have to just play, this is the dignity safety glass clip which has gotten everybody all bent out of shape for pretty good reason. A controversial bill is currently working its way through City Hall designed to regulate stop and go liquor stores. Now one part of the bill would force business owners to take down bulletproof glass inside their stores. Here's the question.

2:43:16 at what cost to their safety. Fox 29's Jeff Kohls live at City Hall. Jeff. Lucy, that is exactly the question in a city that struggles with gun violence. There is a bill going through City Hall here that would take down some of the plexiglass. Now merchants say this is a question of safety. A city councilwoman says no. It's dignity for her constituents. Wait, wait, wait. Explain this to me. What's going on here? Okay, we're in the inner city the worst part of a city the inner city with is which is just you know poor people in a liquor store where they're selling Probably shouldn't even be there selling liquor to people who shouldn't be drinking And it's like the way and they get robbed all the time. They constantly interrupt these are Korean stores the only people that will serve this community are Koreans and

2:44:04 And they built it like a slight fortress. So you go in there, but you can't shoot the guy and steal his money. You can't get past all these, you know, this plexiglass. And they ask for a bottle of booze or something, it gets delivered through a hole. And so you can't go in and rob the place because before the plexiglass was put up, they got robbed all the time and people get killed in some of these cars. You see it all the time. It's like New York taxi cabs that have a hole. So you put, yes, exactly. So they put the plexiglass up and serve this community. And this woman who's a black woman who is now being accused of being racist against the Koreans, which is a reasonable argument, but probably not the real reason. She makes this claim that it's an insult to the people who shop there and it's a,

2:45:02 Affront to their dignity and this stuff should come down. It's the kind of dummies that run these cities nowadays. A racist plexiglass. I like it. Yeah. Outrage! That's what it's all about. Get your outrage. Get your national attention, which is pretty funny. Yeah, well, outrage does wonders. Outrage. And that is our program for today. The Q-Vision will return on Sunday. You never know what could happen. Breadcrumbs everywhere. But at least we can see straight now, thanks to Q-Vision. And I am coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas, where we make guns out of plastic. And like it, printing them up.

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