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00:00 Nick Pickles, Investigator. Now with twice the hearing power and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in downtown Austin Tejas In The Clunio, IN THE MORNING everybody! I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley if you go any further north there are places on fire. I'm John C. DuBois. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! Yeah... Guess we should have done something for that rain stick there huh?

00:39 Well, it seems like everywhere else. It rained including Norway which is what we were targeting we were targeting Norway So Norway we got in Norway I see nothing but tweets about just torrential rains everywhere What? We don't have that many people with their speakers on up there. No, you don't have to have the speakers on I think you do no No It's just the number of people listening You hear it you begin the person who hears The stick becomes that transmitter That's your theory know this is not okay? I only deal in scientific facts my friend Don't you dare be a denier

01:28 Yeah, so how far is the fire from where you live? Double hundred miles. And you laughing because it's kind of close or far away. Yes, kinda close That's not even anywhere near here. Why how fast is this thing traveling? It's it's not headed my way Okay I'm just asking if this is like comic strip blogger one of our artists who comes and you should get out of California now It's like he has no clue that California is like three Francis stacked on top of each other Yeah in terms of his size, which is why it makes three good states. Taking that off the ballot? That's not gonna happen. Why take a chance? Yes exactly all right but it is bad. I mean there are little skirmish fires all over the place especially in Napa Valley and Montecito I saw Montecito got evacuated again

02:23 But that's on Southern California, that's 400 miles away from me. That's eight hours of driving to get there. It's cold here if you look at the map and oh yeah California is 199-98 even though it is not unusual we have all these high temperatures but if you look at the San Francisco Bay Area its like 65. Oh it's beautiful sure Well, it's not beautiful because there is a fog layer. Okay okay! Alright already I gotcha You're not burning so who cares? Screw the rest of them They should have moved closer to Silicon Valley where you are safe Silly silly combat Well if San Francisco should go...I mean is not gonna happen but If it should go It's too wet there when San Francisco is too wet from the poop Yeah but I was going transition into something else just kind like way get another topic away from the poop

03:15 They are considering, well there is a city report that is calling for renaming the City of Austin. Yes somebody wants us to do I poll and maybe make some suggestions or do a contest Let me explain first what's going on. Austin was named after Stephen F. Austin the father of Texas But that's a little problematic. Oh, why? Because he also opposed an attempt by Mexico to ban slavery in the province of Tejas and said if slaves were freed they would turn into vagabonds, a nuisance and a menace! So for this very reason the city of Austin's equity office... Hmm I wonder how you get into the equity office Suggests renaming the city

04:07 There's a what? What, what, what?! Yes! We have to rename the city. No no I'm talking about the equity office. Oh yeah. What is that supposed to mean? What waste of money are we talking about here? I haven't really looked at it...I could look Austin...I could look at it Equity Office but I presume its for equality or equity? It says equity not equality. It didn't say Equality Office, it says equity. Hmm well this is a good point let's see Austin Equity office. Okay, let's see what we come up with. What do they got to do with this? Here we go. The history... Are they big shots now because they've got an equity office? This is weird about the equity office and it's just like a broken page Oh as part of ongoing improvements in maintenance the city of Austin's website will be unavailable

04:59 From 6am to 2pm Sunday May 29th. Oh, May 29 is July people! It's still down... Wow That's pretty bad Okay so I can't look it up right now apparently because the oh wait maybe this will work no The whole website is down Wow crazy. Well if you're looking for it, it is Austin Texas go girls who code slash department slash equity dash office But it's a I can maybe I can read the little preview here The city of Austin's Equity Office provides leadership guidance and insight on equity to improve the quality of life for Austinites we work to achieve the vision of making Austin the most livable city in the nation for all and

05:47 And then it gets cut off at the office strives to build and sustain a culture of... dot, dot, dot. We will never know because the website's been down since May. City Office What? Yes but that may June all of June and most of July Yeah I guess so Holy mackerel! This is a diversity office. They just call it something screwy, let's... I hate to slow the show down. No this was worth it Let's define equity and see what it means and see if has anything to do with these boneheads While you're looking that up there are a couple of names of street names that need to be changed Okay here we go

06:28 The quality of being fair and impartial. They have an office for this, the value of the shares that you should buy. Fair and impartial is not necessarily the same. If we were impartial then we'd just leave everything the way it is wouldn't we? A brain twister! So besides the city having to change his name, we need to change Littlefield Street. Why? I don't know who Littlefield was... Tom Green Street! Tom Green the comic?! Yeah he sucks Republican comic go away Sneed Cove

07:10 Sam Snead the golfer? Reagan Hill Drive. Ronald Reagan Dixie Drive, I like Dixie Drive Confederate Avenue. Yeah we could name Dixie Drive Dixie Chick Road Confederate Avenue could be confident confidence Avenue Oh confidence and then plantation road will we rename plantation oh you can't use the word plantation nope no slavery boy So it'll cost $5,956 to rename the seven streets. The cost of renaming the city would be significantly higher as you can imagine but I don't know what we call it? Shithole! Shithole 78701 how can I assist you? Oh okay that's a john at Dvorak dot org for all you Texans

08:04 It's all right. Believe me, the Texans are on my side. The Texans agree! I'm with you on that one. Let's see... Well, I'm very tired of journalism or whatever passes for journalism these days Did you see that little tweet somebody put out, they did a calculation and so far this year there's been 455 stories news stories on MSNBC about Stormy Daniels and not one about the Yemen situation. No I didn't see that doesn't surprise me They know what their viewers want or what they've trained their viewers to want now i'm talking about the incredible low quality shit reporting about

08:53 Well, just in general Russian hacking spear phishing fishing you know the knowledge that is being passed on to people who think they're consuming news is of such low value That we just assume that you know the typical fish. I call it a fishing attack But okay spirit sphere for glitch Thank You another one people are just accepting these technological explanations as fact have no desire to understand what's behind it. Don't really care, you will care eventually when shit comes crashing down around you but this... I've said the word shit twice now Okay i'll stop But this latest one about the Claire McCaskill hack

09:36 Which is not a hack. It was an email that was sent to grab her password, but of course it's from the Russians! We all understand that don't we? Well this is the first known target of Russian interference in the 2018 election. It was first reported by The Daily Shower... What did she call it? Did she call hacking or meddling? Let's see. The first known target of Russian interference in the Eastern Russian interference, interference 2018 election is first reported by the Daily Beast and this is NPR my friend. This is pathetic already. National Public. Why do you think we're playing at the top of the show? It's a beaut! They found that Russian hackers made an unsuccessful attempt to breach McCaskill computer system through targeted emails Okay this is just not true if you if your spear phishing then you are not

10:21 trying to break into her computer system through targeted emails. You're trying to break into our email account by her giving you the password, it's a little different. McCaskill issued a statement last night saying she was not going to be intimidated by these attempts to continue speaking out against Russia and said it's outrageous. I say hold on like five of these a day from the Russians? Yeah, it's not like they don't get any spam because there's some Stuff comes through and it gets blocked back. But, sorry sarcastic saying hey what is this bull crap? And it starts off and you've already said I told you about this and you already said well i don't even see these things even though I do. Mail uh on if you know cannot send mail is not bounced. Oh you get a bounce but it's from your account and you never sent the email one of those oh no it's from another account that that's a that's old that's years ago This is from another account looks like it may be a real bounce they can't

11:20 And then you just scroll down to who you sent it too. It was some like, uh, this was like, no yeah, there's a bounce back to you because you made a mistake and so we get the bounce back and then you look at the two in from and of two is like I know who this has never heard of this. And then when you go down to the bottom, there is a link to the met to the message supposedly. And, and the link is titled in Cyrillic. Yeah, I'll click on that So, you know I figure... and you're the one that was telling me. You should click on it! You should click on it! Yeah let's see what's in it And so uh.. and so I look at this and go now would this be considered to be a Russian? Are the Russians trying to hack or spearfish me because of the upcoming election They are interfering with the election by sending this to me? Obviously sending it to millions and millions of people

12:16 And it's not necessarily the Russians. Well, in this case it goes a little deeper and there are some reasons why Claire McCaskill of course is being highlighted in this talk They do say that what she received, I don't know if i clipped it out of this but what she received was something that looked like something from the Senate IT system so it was targeted towards people inside Congress. So there's that at least which could be an inside job at least for the creation of The Page who knows? Get away with continued interference in US elections Daily Beast reported that hackers sent forged notifications

12:56 Listen to the word continued. Oh, no I heard the word hackers. No, no. Okay said continued as though this is going on as we speak and has always been going on ever since Trump came up. Rages that Russia thinks they can get away with continued interference in US elections Yeah it hasn't stopped This is a very hackneyed kind of story already without evidence Without evidence. Where's the evidence? Daily Beast reported that hackers sent forged notifications that asked users to reset Microsoft Exchange passwords in essence it was a phishing scheme and that they were trying to bait McCaskill staff into clicking on a link that would take them to a site where their information could be compromised this is what they've done before right I mean the Russians are known to have done this fishing thing in the 2016 election no it's not just the Russians, its Indians, Pakistanis, Bulgarians, Dutch,

13:51 Yeah, the reporting indicates that it's really similar to what we saw in 2016. Very similar to other ways very similar It's amazing how the phishing attack was very similar By the way they should not target two staffers they should target her she's the dummy that would click on it have attempted to get into US email systems. It's the kind of thing that US intelligence officials have been warning about, uh the director of national intelligence Dan Coats was saying that there were... So now we're a minute like 40 seconds into the report and if you're just a casual NPR listener you're like holy shit! The Russians they haven't stopped they're still doing it they're hacking

14:30 Really the report is lie. It's just that lying they're not giving you true information You know this happens as you said every single day people get phishing emails says nothing new the people listening decade by the way by the way, are already these red warning lights blink blinking saying that there's the mean pressure was going to be interfering in the upcoming election. And that is essentially the entire US intelligence community as assessment of what was going to happen. But it seems like it would contradict something that the president himself tweeted, which was that if the Russians were going to interfere in the election he said they were going to help Democrats not go against Democrats and if that's McCaskill seems to contradict that entirely. Okay so why? Oh my god what a thing to jump to. Hold on a second

15:19 I can't believe these people. How do they know that the Russians were trying to hack into her system so they could help her? Because, well first of all The Daily Beast did this reporting and they just kind of simply claimed it's clearly Russians doing this And then NPR just took that from the Daily Beast and said it's clearly the Russians. There is no forensics on who sent this Could be Bulgarians, could be Romanians It could be a fat guy in a basement. It could be someone in an office three doors down. It could have been anything The Russians were going to interfere in the election He said they were going to help Democrats not... It could be right

15:56 What? Okay. Yeah, you're breaking up a little. Nothing I can do about it's just what it is today Go against Democrats and that it was McCaskill seems to contradict that entirely okay So why her well McCaskill is one of the most prominent critics of Russia and of President Trump Oh That makes sense John she's a critic. That's why she's been targeted So is the entire Democrat Party. She's very outspoken on this, which she noted in her own statement that this is something that she expects that she would be targeted. Oh crap! She's looking for free publicity. Well wait for it... Wait here's the payoff

16:36 It's also in a really competitive race. Missouri is seen as one of those places that could very easily go red in 2018 and she, you know she has been a close ally of Hillary Clinton and has been a strong critic of Putin so this is something that she said that she was prepared for. False flag! How about that? Why don't we just call this what it is? Yeah its a false flag because now she knows she's going to lose and now she has somebody to blame...in advance! Despicable Really just I'm so tired of hearing this but there's a lot of this and later. I have a little AOC compilage from her most recent be beautiful Yeah, because her entire thinking I mean we can do it now if you're interested

17:22 Well, just say what you're just about to say. Well her entire thinking is built on these lies that we have identified over a decade and things that now are just taken for fact like 97% of all scientists believe in climate change. Yeah, all scientists. All scientists mind you! We've heard this entire report the Russians are hacking they're hacking doing this hacking is fishing yeah no It's just... and when you, here is an example for AOC Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is socialism works great in Sweden and Norway. I mean these are the things that people have been led to believe but now it's just fact. Yeah

18:11 So do you want to hear that now? I'm anxious to hear it. Okay, good let me just line it up for you so she was on The Daily Show with Trevor Noah and I think she was the only guest It was pretty long about 20 minutes She's the only one guest on that show Yeah but twenty minutes... They have no material they wrote nothing Just brought her out There was material enough for sure And I pulled three segments just to get an understanding of how she's thinking. And this is important because a lot of people voted for her in the 14th district of New York now, of course She believes that she's already been elected to represent the United States globally Which is just it happens when you take someone like this and you know we call Well, we would call it over at parts of tilt in Holland Like they put you on the horse but they pushed you so far that you fell off on the other side No

19:06 Now it's I want to mention something before you play clip. I've been watching more and more of her She doesn't know much no she's very naive, and she's almost a giggly Sorority girl type all of that represented in these clips And but the most bothersome thing is it's not that she doesn't know what she's just ignorant because she's been educated That way she is a product. She said she's a product of what we have to offer I'm sad to say, in general. So let's start and he asked...I think he asked pretty good questions and you know if you watch the whole interview there were some decent bits in there particularly about socialism well it started off with understanding

19:49 The term democratic socialist. Also pay attention to her going, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, you know? Mm-hmm, which it's like a Hillary thing You know what I mean? Where she just... Oh yeah, this constant hum. It's like a hummer! Yes yes! You have to be making noise constantly. The term democratic socialist has never felt like it has more weight to it than now we hear your name on the news every single day Stop stop again stop

20:28 She's um humming mm-hmm to statements like the term democratic socialism. He's gonna ask a question Yeah, the term democratic socialism is he's on his way and she's hot she's Before he's even passed those three words Mm-hmm well anyway I find it incredibly annoying when if she's gonna just keep saying mm-hmm On everything, the sky's blue... Moving on to other clips then. You're going to hear a lot of it. The term democratic socialist has never felt like it has more weight to it than now we hear your name on the news every single day when you use that term what do you want people to understand by it? Well I think what I want people to understand is that we live in a society that is capable, we are capable of ensuring that we have basic

21:24 Bear with me my friend works where people can be covered by health insurance Can send their kids to college or we can pursue a very bold action on climate change and save our future And that is part of a moral and ethical economy and that We can legislate from that value and where it is possible. I believe we are morally obliged to pursue It right now when you when you speak about that, it seems like a logical idea for a politician to have in America The way you are framed is oftentimes the crazy socialist who wants to turn America into Venezuela and Cuba. Now what I find interesting is, when I think of ideas of socialism, there's maybe Venezuela and then there's Cuba but then there's also Norway and Denmark. Do you think... Excuse me! Are Denmark and Norway not kingdoms? Am I mistaken something?

22:19 Their kingdoms, yeah. With a parliamentary system? Yes But I would not call them socialist And it's nothing like Venezuela or Cuba which is one man rule There's a branding disconnect between some of these policy ideas between generations maybe Well between generations I absolutely think so I think us as millennials we grew up in a time Now this is great What I got a couple more things she said, I think I think I think I think she's just classic millennial But she says something earlier Legislate from that value from the value of socialism. Yes Yeah, yeah the idea is let's feel it that social justice

23:03 from the values that it's not fair. Everything has to be fair, that's what I understand it to be but now listen how horrible its been let me just ask you You have kids? I got a kid, I got kids around me in the 20-30 age range How is their life been growing up? Have they grown up in prosperous country? Has there been good times? I mean, okay Hillary. Has it been good for them? And i'm asking a serious question just economically seen health-wise uh just life expectancy everything has it not been doing that's been great great ending disconnect connected America between some of these policy ideas between generations maybe well

23:51 Between generations, I absolutely think so. I think us as millennials we grew up in a time We came of age at the time 9-11 happened in middle school The financial crisis happened in college We have never really known or grown up in a time of true economic prosperity What? I'm sorry That's just not true Or am I seeing it wrong Well, I don't know what she wants for starters. She might want to just kick up her heels and get a flapper dress and dance the night away in a speakeasy with free booze!

24:37 Yeah, it's not the 50s with and she's saying no she's saying now 9-11 I agree that was of course that was very damaging to a lot of people's Mindset and it mind controlled an entire world into a security state. No doubt about it yeah but to say that nothing ever happened like Second World War First World War Vietnam war Korean War Yeah, to say none of that ever happened before she was born or before the Millennials. It's not just not true certainly not economically but okay States we came up age in a time of hyper concentration of wealth with the very tippy top of people In in the country and the world right and so for us have access We also grew up seeing

25:22 our peers in other countries, like in the UK and Canada with single-payer health care systems. We grew up with peers being able to go to college without graduating with a mortgage's worth of debt and we know that economically there is a better way because it has already been done." Pay no attention to the thousand dollar supercomputer everyone has had in their pocket since you were born Also, pay attention to the fact that what she's talking about the student loan debt was largely brought on by Obama. Yes and the trap of it as well not just Obama but during Obama years. It was exacerbated during their Obama years instead of recognizing it for what it was they kept a going thing and wow this is free money for us! Yeah and everyone has a big albatross around their neck now

26:13 At the second clip, there was some interesting information in there that we've talked about on the show and this is all about corruption. Like okay so when you get in not even if you get him but when you get it and when you're up there representing everybody although she's not been elected yet aren't you worried about being corrupted by money? Do you worry that when you get into the halls of Congress that you may become infected by that money. And the reason I ask this is because, I've seen many politicians who start out with beautiful ideals and once they get into the machine they'll tell you from inside it's so different You have to get money from big corporations and you have to start working with business Do you worry maybe your ideals will be met with reality once you get to the capital?

27:00 I think that what makes our campaign and my candidacy a little different is that, i've taken a public pledge not to accept any corporate PAC money whatsoever. Alright...I have taken a pledge not to accept any corporate PAC money whatsoever First of all, the way I understand the rules of PACs or political action committees not only can they not give money directly to a candidate. They can't even talk with the candidate! They have no interaction Is my understanding correct? Yeah, PACs are designed to be kind of independent and they would do the advertising for you without you having any say in it. Right but here she is... She took a pledge not to take any PAC money! She can't legally she can't I think they can spend there's some maximum amount of $5,000 dollars i think

27:53 Somewhere in there that we could look it up, but did yes She's full of crap so but then by the way when he asked that question her whole answer to the first Clip series that you played where it was all materialistic. Yes We didn't have this we didn't get that we didn't get a free lunch. We didn't get this we didn't get that We want free medical we went this is all materialistic she's a materialist whoo? Yes We continue. Pledge not to accept any... Oh yeah, I also wanted to say she's saying no corporate PAC money so i guess she's taking non- She's taking money and just not corporate PACs but as far as I know legally you can't take any money from PACs You can't even talk with them Corporate PAC money whatsoever

28:40 starting to see a movement in congress i think there's about eight uh... eight members of congress and believe they're all democrats that have accepted that pledge but actually think i'd maybe one of the only ones that actually got elected for the first time on back many many folks got elected with some corporate money than they swore it off after but i think i'm one of the first to get elected right out of the gate without any corporate pack money which gives me i'd believe very large degree of independence um... i am a little add you know I'm a little afraid because i know of the, I know that the culture of Congress is one that I think the majority of Americans are just exasperated. Now listen to this she says something interesting we've discussed before John. Right right right and um and to a certain extent you have to be kind of an emissary in that there are ways that you get things done and there's the implication that you need to get committee assignments by purchasing them through fundraising and all of that Uh-huh no there's not an implication

29:37 That we know for sure. Yes a known fact so she she's hearing and I can just see what's happening She's been hanging out with Bernie Sanders He's been shepherding here her around taking her everywhere to Kansas of do whatever you know, whoo We're all great Here's the future of your party ladies and gentlemen anything now little girl You're gonna have to buy your committee seats that's really bad but yet two by your committees eats And what is it, a million bucks for to be the chairman of committee or two million? For the best committees. It's a million bucks a year. A million bucks a year? House and Ways and Means, Defense all these big committees is a million but it can't be as low as 250 000 So the corruption has already started she's already seeing the implication she hasn't even figured out yet that yeah that's the way it works Gary in that there are ways that you get things done and there's the implication that you need to get committee assignments by purchasing them through fundraising and all of that And I think it's one of those things where

30:38 You know, I think first of all, I got elected on not taking corporate PAC money and I have absolutely no intention of changing that whatsoever. And so it's really just about learning to navigate that space with that foundation. Learning to navigate that space with that foundation! I'm right out of a textbook nice. Yeah final final clip this is the one that lot of people saw Around the social nets the big question how do we pay for all of this free stuff that you're thinking of giving away. But then the pragmatic side of it comes in as you said, how do you pay for these? You know you always see people coming in with economic arguments and they say look these numbers don't really add up you know in order to get health care for everybody this is what would cost that's going to be troubling even if your reverse the Republican tax deal that's only gonna make a five percent of what we need to pay from Medicare for all. How do you pay for education? For how do you pay for all of these ideas so I

31:33 This is an excellent, excellent question and in fact... Go ahead! Say it. Well the one I have the beef with is great. She said excellent, excellent couldn't be just one excellent had to be two. Excellent, excellent There's a lot of back-of-the-envelope stuff So I've looked at the economic plans that i've been talking about all in the back of the envelope. It's really okay? This is an excellent, excellent question and in fact there's a lot of back-of-the-envelope stuff based on our values so for example I sat down with a Nobel Prize economist last week...I can't believe I can say that it was really weird! Okay now I think this this is one these millennial things she throws in there

30:38 You know, I think first of all, I got elected on not taking corporate PAC money and I have absolutely no intention of changing that whatsoever. And so it's really just about learning to navigate that space with that foundation. Learning to navigate that space with that foundation! I'm right out of a textbook nice. Yeah final final clip this is the one that lot of people saw Around the social nets the big question how do we pay for all of this free stuff that you're thinking of giving away. But then the pragmatic side of it comes in as you said, how do you pay for these? You know you always see people coming in with economic arguments and they say look these numbers don't really add up you know in order to get health care for everybody this is what would cost that's going to be troubling even if your reverse the Republican tax deal that's only gonna make a five percent of what we need to pay from Medicare for all. How do you pay for education? For how do you pay for all of these ideas so I

31:33 This is an excellent, excellent question and in fact... Go ahead! Say it. Well the one I have the beef with is great. She said excellent, excellent couldn't be just one excellent had to be two. Excellent, excellent There's a lot of back-of-the-envelope stuff So I've looked at the economic plans that i've been talking about all in the back of the envelope. It's really okay? This is an excellent, excellent question and in fact there's a lot of back-of-the-envelope stuff based on our values so for example I sat down with a Nobel Prize economist last week...I can't believe I can say that it was really weird! Okay now I think this this is one these millennial things she throws in there

32:20 It could be real, but it could also... I don't know. She does these from time to time and she goes, a Nobel? I can't believe it me little Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez! I met a Nobel! Economist! It's weird. I can't believe so weird Can I just interject here about this what you just described When you know when the last royal wedding took place Yeah, they were covering it on NBC with Meredith's. Yes Where's the clip hold on a second remember what would be called that was a good clip Royal Wedding? If you can find that but there was one thing I never did get to clip maybe I did but they but Katie Tur and some other woman of another NBC News Correspondent we're up in some balcony somewhere They put the camera on them

33:12 And I think they're in kind of in this group, I think they're older millennials. They were jumping up and down and screaming like little girls at a Beatles concert in the 60s. Talking like this! So Katie Turrer in particular is squealing and jumping up and down and they're just in paroxysms over this wedding scene. They said oh there's Megan and then they went nuts And it was like, holy mackerel. You're not even remotely mature. It's apparent and I think we have the same situation with this woman she's like a kid. It's you know this isn't...you bring up a point This is a sort of behavior and i don't think it's bound to millennials it is certainly in the United States women do this sometimes amongst themselves they talk whoa yes oh girlfriend blah

34:09 Yeah, I guess it's a female version of dudes doing bro stuff. But this is... Well you know if i'm right- If I have like a top correspondence job at NBC... Well okay that's different but she's not top correspondent NBC she's an elected- She's a pre-elected politician! Yes? To exemplify this and I'm thinking if I'm that person why am I presenting myself like this You know, I haven't even gotten mature enough to know not to do that. Is that what the message is here? And I think this woman's in that same category possibly Possibly. Well, let's listen again because this is still about how we're gonna pay for these her great ideals. The envelope stuff based on our values so for example I sat down with a Nobel Prize economist last week...I can't believe i can say that it was really weird but one of the things that we saw is if people pay

35:06 their fair share. If corporations and the ultra wealthy, for example as Warren Buffett likes to say if he paid as much as his secretary paid 15 percent if you paid a fifteen percent tax rate... Okay so she just got this one wrong and Trevor Noah does not interject although I could see in his face that he knew what is true what she's trying to say is if Warren Buffett pay the same amount of taxes as his secretary which is not fifteen percent it's his is much higher His is 15%, hers is higher than that. She's got it exactly backwards, nothing is set. For example as Warren Buffett likes to say if he paid as much as his secretary paid

35:52 If corporations paid, if we reversed the tax bill but raised our corporate tax rate to 28%, which is not even as high as it was before. Right. If we do those two things... Okay what she's trying to say is that if you took the tax breaks and just reversed them and gave normal people the low corporate tax and then gave the high tax to everybody else, it would work that way somehow. I think... It's weird! we have to go to 100% renewable energy economy and somehow it's going to work by changing the taxes that way or is there something else she's thinking of? So, we got two trillion dollars from folks paying their fair share which they were not paying before the Trump tax bill. Right They weren't no like they weren't paying that before the Trump tax bill if we get people to pay their fair share That's 2 trillion in 10 years now if we implement a carbon tax

37:03 On top of that, so that we can transition and financially incentivize people away from fossil fuels. If we implement a carbon tax that's an additional amount of um...of a large amount of revenue that we can have. Oh my god! That's an additional amount of... If we go to 100% renewable, there is no carbon tax bringing in nothing. That's right! Once it's over.. And then the last key which is extremely important Is reprioritization Just last year we gave the military a 700 billion dollar budget increase No, that was not a $700 billion dollar increase

37:45 It was 700 billion dollars. That was the total budget I'm in agreement that's outrageous, but it wasn't the increase and the last key which is extremely extremely important is Repriority just last year we gave the military a seven hundred billion dollar attack Budget increase which they didn't even ask for they're like we don't fighter jet like Don't give us another nuclear bomb When has any army anywhere ever said that? No more money for the military industrial complex. We didn't even ask for that go away with your cash Budget increase which they didn't even ask for they're like we don't want another

38:31 fighter jet. Like, they're like don't give us another nuclear bomb! They didn't even ask for it and we gave it to them and so a lot of what we need to do is reprioritize what we want to accomplish as a nation. And really, what this is about is saying healthcare is important enough for us to put first. Education is important enough for us to put first and that is a decision that requires political and moral courage from both parts of the aisle. Yeah! And it's worked everywhere else so why not here in America?

39:11 That was not a good idea. Well, you think that's bad? Why don't we go to District 14 in New York and I have to give massive props again to Campus Reform these guys are very smart what they're doing and i'm happy they're doing this expose what's happening In our millennial groups A lot of these people who are here are indeed in school but not all of them But these are the voters from New York District 14 Who elected Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. What are your views on her so far? I mean, I've heard only positive things We love her Yeah we do love her. I voted for her because i'm from Queens It was great and it's a breath of fresh air and I hope that follows through into November I like her spirit She is very different People tend to freak out when they hear the word socialism applied to anything Why do you think that is

40:03 I think there's this old way of thinking about it. What do you think the government should be? It's an old way of thinking about it! It's the Old Way, Old Way Bad New Way Good! I think that is... I think there's this old way of thinking about it. What do you think the government should be subsidizing so her platform includes free health care college tuition minimum living wage housing as a human right are those things that you think the government should be providing for people absolutely are those things that you would support Yes, it is. Are those all things that you would support the government subsidizing? 100%. I feel like everyone should have free education and healthcare How are we going to pay for those? Oh God...I mean Us! Us, I guess Who in your mind should pay for all of the free things All of the free things? Well some of it should come from taxes but the government should pay for it But the government is funded by taxes

40:59 I don't know where the money would come from, but they can figure it out. More taxes on the rich people? For sure man! They can afford it. Tax corporations that tax for 1% and find a way to support the living wage The people with a good idea and a good reason to spend their tax money wouldn't mind actually paying more taxes There are so many of these countries out there employing a lot more socialism in their government and into their politics, and they're doing really well. Oh yeah! Is Venezuela doing that? I don't know too much about Venezuela honey... Are they still communists right now? They are technically socialist Look at other countries it works Other countries you pay higher taxes but your government takes care of you So when you see the social system failing in Venezuela does that concern you?

41:50 Obviously. My family's Cuban and I've seen the downfall of extreme leftism, but also like I see how it boosts the community and it has its up-and-downs and I think we can definitely learn from history on that terms Our country needs change And if it has to be on opposite side On the extreme polar opposite side maybe it's what we need Privatized health care is a huge issue and if it was a government funded thing that would You know, when there aren't... Do you think the government would run it more efficiently? In a perfect world. Sure! I'm liberal. I don't know exactly like where i stand but I... Democratic Socialist is better than Conservative It's just better than..it's the better option In what way? When I think of it I just think of like more open-minded people economically conserved Thanks Obama We're doomed

42:50 Well, New York is doomed. That's for sure isn't that it's like outrageous people really are just ignorant They're ignorant they have not been taught don't understand don't read in the schools It is the schools yeah Now what are we gonna do? We didn't do nothing and we're just gonna sit back and watch And I you know you think she'll get elected if the Republicans were smart They could beat her by putting somebody even though that they put her in they help her Oh, that's a good idea. Wouldn't you think? Yeah, he had this idiot that you can see yeah punching bag. How easy it was in an area in his own that has apparently been gerrymandered to be pure Democrats so just no there's no chance she can get beaten unless the guy who she beat... He still on the ballot and actually decided to run as an independent or something the way Lieberman did

43:55 After he got ousted by his own party, and he said screw that I can still beat this guy so you in the general mm-hmm Then he could get into that whole thing would be over with her which if that guys it has a brain? I think he doesn't care anymore. He was in for 20 years or something. He's like he's sick of it Yeah, probably doesn't want the aggro If you won we're just running against her would cause so much hate towards him yeah That could probably wouldn't probably wouldn't want to do that What you got I got lots of other stuff, but curious. I see you've got clips well after those clips You might as well play this little iso. I have my favorite I just put it into in the rotations this way can call it up and if needed This is your life Rachel man not having a terrible terrible dream also. You're not dead and you haven't gone to hell This is your life now. This is our election now. This is us. This is our country. Yeah, we know this clip

44:51 I know, but i don't know that...I can't reference it. Oh yes this is right after Trump won Yeah I know where it came from This was after she was crying She's crying like a baby and then she does that No! I don't know because maybe I want to pull it up in the future Okay no that's good And I don't know if we can find it Well we certainly can now and we could always find this one now I visited Kenya as sitting American president to come from Kenya. We have that one, you never know when they'll come in handy. That one is damning. I don't know it's as good as the other ones where he talks about his Muslim faith. That's another gem. Another gem. I just don't know why people can't pick up on this stuff? I do have some more NPR like 1984 stuff in reference to Trump if you're interested in that

45:48 I thought it was well. Yeah, because when we switch to my clips i'm gonna go into the sleazy side of the business Let's go to sleeves let's go oh man this is Hashtag me too has just had an interesting revival as we now switch to the CBS network from NBC Well now that's yeah well Don't know that this was intended And now it's time for your sexual harassment I mean we got the jingles you might as well play them when I don't know if this was intentional to choose To start targeting CBS. I don't think Roger Stone had anything to do with it I think this guy just stepped in at some time ago, I don't know whether Redstone's daughter who is trying to make a

46:34 a play for... They want to re-merge Viacom with CBS, which they used to be some years ago. Then they split off. That was my number one thought is that's what this is about it is Ronan though and I think he did write in his article He wrote about it. This is all happening under the banner of this take this reverse back end merger happening so it could be Well It's possible that Redstone woman, she and I met Summer Redstone. I've met him too once he is a very...I don't know how to describe him but it's not a normal person. No he's a dick

47:18 I think he's kind of evil, personally. But this reverse merger they're trying to pull off... it's possible that they had done some investigating because Moonvest is against it. Let's just explain for a second. Sumner Redstone built Viacom. Did Viacom then buy CBS? I can't remember. I think they may have because they were buying everybody right but Nickelodeon, they bought Cartoon Network, they bought BET all that stuff and then they split it off... And Paramount don't forget their Paramount started Paramount so and then they then they split off Viacom

47:58 Which had the pieces like MTV Networks I think was in the Viacom piece. Yeah, I think so as Paramount yeah But Redstone is majority shareholder in both entities and now his daughter was taking over because he's on death door Certainly with a lot of viagra He's popping as we know remember that member that tape that secret tape of him and his buddy and The Hookers I don't remember it, but... It was great. Do you have it? Yeah we played on the show is probably horribly inaudible but go ahead I'll look for that while you continue about the business side of this. They split off and then Viacom has really struggled in terms of their earnings per share and well CBS just kicked butt and a lot of it has to do with Moonves but they don't see it that way so they figured they'd rejoin the companies

48:49 their book value would go up and then their worths would go up and their share value would go up. It'd be a win-win for the Viacom investors, so they figure well let's get you know we own a lot of the CBS stock so let's put them two companies back together. Moonvest decided no he figures that you know why should they give up control? He'd lose control but obviously they put some private detectors on I think they dug up some dirt And then they said, what are we going to do with this dirt? It's no good, this dirt. So they may have gone to Ronan who is looking for another article to write and dropped it on his lap and said hey you know you might be interested in this and it could have been done in a very casual way that didn't look like he was being set up. It's possible But doesn't that also possibly hurt stock prices when you get these kinds of things with shareholders and people running companies and this kind of noise?

49:51 It'll make it easier to do the merger if the stock prices drop. Ah, yes of course, of course Okay but But I think that-I think he's in a heap of trouble. I think Moonves is done and I have two different reports I mean you can play part of the one that CBS itself actually aired And this is one of the long form and I don't even have the whole thing as too long but you can start listening To it If You want. It's A little soft in his reporting, but then I see you go to ABC and they decide to violate the rules of don't mess with the other guys. Don't mess with the other guys because especially Disney has got lots of skeletons in their closet. Oh yeah! Alright well listen to some of this CBS. Moonves acknowledges but denies sexually assaulting her

50:36 In another alleged incident, the article says a veteran producer Christine Peters met with Moonves in 2006 to discuss a project. She told the magazine he was enthusiastic but then sat down close to her on the couch. Then he just put his hand up my skirt she said touching her underwear. Moonves categorically denies this. The article also says 19 current and former employees claimed former CBS News chairman and current executive producer of 60 Minutes, Jeff Fager allowed harassment in the news division. Fager called those claims false anonymous and said they do not hold up to editorial scrutiny In a statement the independent directors of CBS said all

51:19 All allegations of personal misconduct are to be taken seriously. Upon the conclusion of that investigation, the board will promptly review the findings and take appropriate action." Farrow said he'd worked on this story for eight months. We talked to experts who say this is an opportunity to look at how our most important corporate institutions treat vulnerable people coming forward with these kinds of charges Moonves said this about sexual harassment at a Variety magazine event last fall. It's important that companies educate, have an ability to have a dialogue to know what is going on I think it is important that the company culture

52:00 Will not allow for this as CBS chairman and CEO Moonves is credited with helping turn the primetime lineup into a perennial winner Can't you just see that the lawyers pouring over this script before it went to tape? You know like okay, we're gonna say this We can't you can use this soundbite only 30 seconds right here. And there we can have any other Definitely would have them going over also It's such a static read no zero emotion Completely out of character for any other type of news report. Just reading the facts as they are stated about our own network. Helping make CBS the country's most watched television network, the allegations against him come in the middle of a battle over the future of CBS It pits Moonves against Sherry Redstone who controls a majority of the voting shares in both CBS and Viacom

52:52 through her National Amusements Corporation. Redstone wants to re-merge CBS and Viacom, Moonves does not. A high ranking CBS executive who did not want to be identified told us the New Yorker story is part of that battle calling it corporate hardball Ms. Redstone spokesperson put out a statement denying the allegations have any Uh-huh.

53:32 Those were mistakes and I regret them immensely but I also always understood and respected and abided by the principle that no means no. And, I've never misused my position to harm or hinder anyone's career." Muvez' wife Julie Chen also released a statement supporting him she wrote Leslie is a good man in a loving father devoted husband and inspiring corporate leader he has always been a kind decent and moral human being. And, he's a tongue jabber is what he is A creepy tongue jabber. I believe he speaks the truth when he says that if you read the whole article with the allegations, once he got no it was like okay that's a no but he doesn't ask for a no He starts right away by touching your panties and jamming his tongue down your throat. He is a dick! An obvious horrible man And its not just any... its not just the corporate culture It is entertainment culture Yes That should be pointed out

54:29 They don't, they're never going to do that. You're the only one that will do that. Okay so let's go to ABC where we have a three-parter and these are all good and they tend to go there was a little better reporting than CBS. They have better stuff And this is the Moonves hit piece on ABC1. Tonight, Les Moonves the head of CBS under investigation for sexual misconduct and a company he's run for two decades accused of turning a blind eye to a culture of harassment. The New Yorker releasing an expose by Ronan Farrow featuring allegations from six women against the CBS chairman that range from inappropriate kissing to sexual assault These are all stories in which women said one after another that they were terrified and intimidated

55:29 and that they felt their careers suffered as a result. In the article, the Emmy-nominated actress and writer Ileana Douglas known for her roles in Goodfellas and Six Feet Under describes what she calls a sexual assault that occurred during a meeting with Moonves for a show she was cast in. She claims he held her down and began violently kissing her and even pulled up her skirt. Douglas says she tried to talk her way out of the encounter but afterwards was fired and told by Moonves she would never work at this network again. Moonves admits trying to kiss Douglas, but denies sexually assaulting her

56:06 But the article went further, alleging a pattern of harassment at CBS News including 60 Minutes claiming that men on the show accused of sexual misconduct were promoted even as the company paid settlements. One former employee claiming I had several producers and editors over the age of sixty who would greet me by kissing me on the mouth. We did hear from dozens and dozens of current and former employees that they had seen a culture of harassment and retaliation. And that flowed from Mr Moonves to different facets of this company, including the news division." Yeah notice it's always women in show business actresses directors producers writers

56:56 It's rarely someone within the boardroom or within the corporate culture. Yeah, that's probably true but I think if you have sexual harassment...I think if the girl is pretty enough it's going to happen anywhere Let's go back to what Moonves said There was something when you...first you have to doubt some of these things But when a guy says instead of just categorically denying it which would be my advice No, I didn't. I don't know what she's talking about. She's nuts! She's a psycho. Wait is this your corporate HR advice? Yeah Okay All right He says oh well, uh, I did try to kiss her But I don't remember any of the other stuff

57:49 Oh, come on! This is like an admission of guilt. It is an admission of guilt Yes you're right it's not like... It's not like? It IS an admission of guilt and he just soft-pedaled it but he was obviously a masher He sits the other girl... Beyond a masher I mean if you read the article consistently he jams his tongue into their mouths yes he's beyond a masher he's an assaulter that's an assault yeah the tongue assault Yeah. Assault with a deadly weapon And he is like, he can't... He's done! I don't see how he gets out of this. He's a creep!

58:31 All right. Let's go on to issue two. As CBS begins its investigation, Moonves responding to the allegation saying I recognize that there were times decades ago when I may have made some women uncomfortable by making advances those were mistakes and i regret them immensely but they always understood and respected and abided by the principle that no means no and I have never misused my position to harm or hinder anyone's career Eva Pilgrim joins us now live in studio and as CBS... That's the whole definition of his position is to harm or further people's careers. That's crap! ...starts their investigation, some are questioning the timing of these allegations. That's right Tom, CBS is in the middle of a heated merger battle with Viacom and now some are alleging these claims may stem from that corporate dispute but

59:20 The head of Viacom responding saying that any claim she is behind those allegations is false and self-serving. CBS saying they will fully investigate these sexual misconduct claims, that the board will promptly review the findings and they will take the appropriate action Tom. All right Eva thank you. Yes mm-hmm well they have a problem because this guy is one of the great programming geniuses that comes around Very rarely after a little Littlefield and what was the other guy's name who's dead now? What about Zucker who went over to CNN NBC after he destroyed the network by putting Jay Leno on every night at 10 Genius idea that moves all the law and order stuff off. Mm-hmm He it's just like these guys this is a tough job to do

1:00:08 And it's like picking hits, you know the same in the record industry. There are one or two guys that are just like they just can't go wrong there used to be some famous guys that did that and this is one of those guys but now you're stuck with a guy because he's... You know it's just ridiculous and he probably doesn't care He is the highest paid executive in the country makes something Like 80 million a year Something like that and he has been doing this for 20 years He doesn't need this job or the aggravation he's going to resign Then what then what what then CBS will do the merger with Viacom and in the Redstones? We'll start programming CBS, and it's gonna be junk TV. Just like every other network Exactly it's gonna suck It's a totally for a deal with only take two seasons And I think for yes, and I think for ABC

1:00:59 To be, you know all over this story like this is very well It may be a bit of a distractive move because who at least we're not talking about James Gunn everybody Let's not look over here Because once they want so the possi also the possibility exists that if Sherry Lansing or Lansing share Redstone had anything to do with any of it. This is like a kind of a We're gonna help you now You have to help us later Yeah, assuming they have to assume that remove us is out because otherwise he'd go He would be a bad bad enemy to have these done. There's no way it's gonna be around I was just kind of saying that if ABC is next in the trifecta of the douchebags in In Media Land man If you see we really have Ronan really gets into ABC and really finds out what's been going on since the days of Shirley Temple The Empire could come crashing down

1:02:01 Yes, yeah that might be a longer it's taking him eight months to do this story. This would take years Yeah, no I agree Disney is probably the most Targetable yeah all the kiddie fiddlers hanging out over there I mean all the and all the bullcrap in their parks where people are cast members so they don't to play pay minimum wage which is what they developed that idea in Florida and they had the Florida legislature pass some laws. They said, look at where we got! We've got all of Orlando, we've got this huge bunch of property and we're going to develop a bunch of things on it but we have some problems can you change law? Change a couple things for us And they changed a couple things for us so thats why it says cast everyone who works there as a cast member Oh thats a legal thing

1:02:48 Yeah. Oh, I didn't realize it was for legal reasons? Yes that way you don't have to pay him so much. Ohhh okay... because it's basically one big stage It's a stage and your just the cast member and you get to go on there That includes the guys who scrape up the gum Yeah they're cast members of course! They don't want to quit show business But you don't see and if you look around the park, you'll see these doors that say cast members only. It never says employees only the word employee is verboten So in the backdrop of this we have Kimberly Guilfoyle which who was not being reported on in any equitable way Because the accusations are I don't know if they're credible because no one's really reported on it You've heard about these accusations of Kimberley

1:03:29 No. Well, she left the Fox News Network to become the vice chairwoman of the I support the president pack whatever it is something like that like I'm boning the President's son so hey! I'm all for him. Guilfoyle departure was has been billed as her decision but it was Huffington Post no less who reported last week from multiple sources that said she did not leave the network voluntarily. They said Guilfoyle was informed her time at Fox News was up following a human resources investigation into allegations of inappropriate behavior, including sexual misconduct

1:04:06 that her lawyers have been involved since spring. Sources also say that despite being told she would have to leave by July, Guilfoyle repeatedly attempted to delay her exit and tried to have her allies appealed to Rupert Murdoch what she apparently did is She was very abusive towards the I think it's women in the hair and makeup department which I hate to say it, but just looking at her... ...I can see that she's a total bitch in the makeup department. I've been in makeup departments all my life and I've seen it And some women are just horrible Just rude and mean and abusive with language But the best part is she apparently is going around showing dick pics to everybody... ...and identifying whose dick it is in the pic For some reason none of this would surprise me because I have always been suspicious of her

1:05:01 Since you can almost say since she was married to Gavin Newsom. Yeah, that's a red flag but the other moment was she was on during the member of the TSA scandal about The technicians keeping pictures of the X yes, yes naked people in the x-rays. Yeah, they make it body scanners So we don't do not taking any picture but turns out they were mm-hmm They were doing a discussion of this on one of the O'Reilly or something. She was one of the discussers and she says, I don't get it! I don't see...I don't have any problem with this. I think I'm glad they want to see me naked? I have no problem with that. Everyone's just whining about nothing. I don't remember that. Did we have a clip of that? No, it was just something I watched. Oh, too bad And I would say holy mackerel what kind of analysis is this

1:05:53 Well, the thing I'm proud of my naked bodies. You should be too Yeah, yeah, I could see her being and she looks kind of like a mean-spirited person but walking around showing dick pics Of course these were probably emailed to or sexted to her? I don't know how she got them where she took them like a like a plaster caster But I think we should know where is that? I would like a little equity on this just because he's a woman and she's cute kind of That means that she can just get away with it. The press doesn't jump on this, they're not doing anything and I don't understand... It's Trump! How can you not do this when she's directly connected to Trump? It makes no sense." I think it's one of these things that is a gentleman's agreement by the women reporters that we don't pick on each other because we got enough problems.

1:06:46 You think so? Yeah, it's the only possibility because what you just said outlines exactly why it should be going on and so there has to be a reason that is not. And I believe that would be the reason. Well, it's disappointing and I want to know more. The war against men requires the women to stick together and this is what they're doing right there. If the women stick together on this...I'm sorry if the women stick together on this then the men aren't gonna jump in cause then they get picked down by the women Well, it's disappointing to me and I would definitely like to know more. Specifically... She just wanted to see whose dick picture she got! Well there is that. And this concludes your sexual harassment update. And with that i'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John CENA!

1:07:33 You and the C stands for can't think of anything today Dvorak Well in the morning to you, mr Adam Curry also in the morning all the boots on the ground the feet in The air the subs in the water and All the dames and knights out there. Well this is interesting I had a normally when I go to I go to Fox, or what do you call it? Firefox. When you click on the open new tab, it gives you a bunch of stuff that you previously opened. I think I have been... Ah yes! These idiots. Pocket has somehow invaded my... Pocket?! Yeah. What is pocket?

1:08:16 Pocket is some sort of a... I'll look it up. Why don't you look up pocket? Well, I'd go get the spreadsheet but i have to type everything in now. Pocket communications something new coming soon Probably I don't know it is a hijack my browser. Oh, well. I just went to the page and they haven't hijacked it But there's nothing going on Anyway, I did I can get rid of it Well while you're looking for that let me say in the morning to that let me say in the morning to the troll room Yeah I have no idea what you said. It's totally illegible, thank you Skype and in the morning to the troll room NoahJenderstream.com where everyone can listen live too

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1:14:42 We hit people in the mouth. Shut up! Shut up, slave! Alrighty... we have uh... for a little respite Respite? Oh yeah, I gotta play this. This is the hit job on the... Tell me this is not a professional hit then they'll never catch the guy! This is a hit job on The Bush Doctor. There are new developments in a high-profile murder mystery in Texas A renowned cardiologist who has treated former President George HW Bush gunned down while riding his bicycle to work. The gunman also on a bike and now authorities say it was a targeted attack

1:15:35 But who did it and why? We get the latest from NBC's Tammy Lightner. Tonight, police reveal a renowned Houston cardiologist was likely targeted by his killer leaving more questions than answers. This is truly a whodunit from top to bottom. It's perplexing case new video shows Dr Mark House connect in his final moments before being gunned down. The images captured from a city bus cam show the doctor in blue scrubs riding his bike to work just like he did every day not far behind him another man on a bike trailing house connect seen here carrying a bulging backpack

1:16:13 minutes later police say the gunman rode in front of the doctor and fired three shots while facing him. The medical examiner confirming house connect died of gunshot wounds to the head, torso and upper left extremity investigators releasing this sketch of the suspect friends and neighbors now retracing the killer's path searching for clues. Did you see anything unusual? And asking residents to check their home surveillance cameras We want to solve this murder, a senseless murder Hmm I did read about this but didn't really probably read only the headline. It could be a hit job but why well that's the question they don't even ask and they don't even consider it

1:16:59 No, they don't consider it. There's just like some... I guess this happens all the time? Mmm. I don't think so. No. Sounds like a hit job to me! Mm-hmm Interesting. And the doctor probably has it, you know this is a he goes on takes his bike every time just to work and he's always not probably doing it at the exact same time very easy to figure out how to get him for some reason but no they don't bother even thinking of that I'd just put it in the Seth Rich file It'll be fine there we'll take care of it good place to put that yes Seth rich And this thing here also triggered a thought which I mentioned in the newsletter.

1:17:41 This is Greek fires arson. Ah, yes! Paradise lost off Attica's eastern shoreline the Mediterranean Sea gleams as blue as ever but onshore so many of the homes and hotels that once stood here are gone On Monday the flames charged through here at 60 kilometers per hour almost everyone fled towards the beaches Only the firefighters had the means to try and resist the flames often in vain This is the first time in 38 years of my service seeing so much catastrophe. Sometimes we can't react because it's something beyond our power to stop this. Investigators say the blaze took just 90 minutes to race down the mountain towards the coast, many residents simply had no chance to escape

1:18:34 And while Monday was extremely hot and windy in Greece, the government suspects the worst fires were no accident. As you've all been informed, the indications that we have and which authorities in charge are already investigating lead to the conclusion that arson was behind the deadly fires. Wow! You know Greece can't get a break man how long have they been screwed over is it now going on seven years?

1:19:10 Yeah, besides the financial screw job. Starting with the austerity and the migrants and everything yeah They can't catch a break at all And now arson huh? I wonder about some of the fires that are going on around the United States and elsewhere It's like when it kicks up immediately a fire starts You know, it seems like a thing terrorists could do if they but yeah But they got to claim it If they don't claim that's the only missing you have they claimed it and then of course They could claim and not do anything is just claiming everything speaking of that. You know Isis Claimed the Vegas massacre I think at least three maybe four times And we're still completely in the darkest what actually happened We don't even know if there were now and now there's

1:20:00 Thoughts that maybe there was a second shooter Because body cam I guess the Vegas police man Do they just release stuff willy-nilly and not look at it or is like they've released nothing or the wrong thing Is this bodycam footage shows police believe there are multiple shooters, and that was never discussed in any of the briefings No There were two windows broken open. Yeah yeah what you can see? You know whatever you see it Just don't believe what you say please that thing is I just it's, i have no words for that. I really don't understand why we have not understood more about what happened there other than cover-up? Yeah its cover up! I have one other little topic which is kind of worth discussing Scott Adams brought this up and this is the auto fill in problem at Twitter that has been

1:21:03 Oh yeah, this is the whole shadow banning conversation. Tucker took it on and I thought you did a pretty good job Yeah, I got to beef with Tucker but we'll get to that in a minute Alright so... This is the fake account? Tucker takes on auto-fillin' Eww hold on a second Yes, here we go. Well Twitter has long denied that it is biased against conservative accounts That's obviously a lie It's always obviously been a lie And now it is a proven why the new report by vice founded the Republican lawmakers on the conservative accounts Wouldn't show up in the search bar when users searched for them that his censorship Obviously and it was intentional congressman Matt gates of Florida was one of those conservatives shadow banned by Twitter Okay He says not censorship if it's not the government

1:21:53 I'm sorry, that's not censorship. No it is censorship! Censorship's got nothing to do with the government. Okay, but the way he's framing it I think he's implying that but okay I rest. Censorship obviously and it was intentional. Congressman Matt Gaetz of Florida was one of those conservatives shadow banned by Twitter He has filed a complaint against the company with the federal election commission. Congressman Gaetz joins us today. Congressman thank you for coming on so first is a factual question You're certain that this happened to you and it was intentional? Well, I'm certain that there were only four members of Congress who had their voices suppressed on Twitter. Matt Gaetz, Jim Jordan, Mark Meadows and Devin Nunes So that would be one hell of a coincidence My suspicion is if people were effectively communicating a conservative message they got caught in Twitter's troll trap The reason that i think it is illegal

1:22:49 It gives advantages to our political opponents. It gives them access to the platform that we don't have if Twitter was a billboard company and they gave Democrats access to their billboards and not Republicans, that would be an illegal corporate donation to the campaigns of Democrats here instead of the billboard it's the auto fill-in function as part of Twitter search feature that wasn't available to me Devin Nunes Mark Meadows or Jim Jordan and its available to Democrats Yeah, surprise. I think it's a valid argument. It's an illegal corporate contribution. Oh looking at that way okay now that's an interesting way to look at it. It's a good way to look at it Scott Adams says the same thing happened to him he was shadow banned if you tried looking up Scott Adams is very famous guy oh like me not having a blue check mark?

1:23:39 Yeah, exactly. Same thing why don't you have a blue checkmark? They hate me there. Well that doubt you think that's a little bit unfair No, I should be at neutral operation. No no in fact. I see it as a badge of honor now Yeah You do you say that I do I mean that But the point is, well okay. The point is that's how I got in trouble by signing out on Twitter. I signed out to see if Scott was right because I click on SCO to get Scott, boom right at the top and then when I wasn't John C. Dvorak it was just an anonymous guy coming into the site looking for Scott he didn't show up

1:24:23 Right on the drop-down right well, but but Twitter has Twitter has admitted. They do this and they call it healthy conversation rules Well, they can call whatever they want I never got a call back. I never got a note from with my Ability to change my password. I never got the PR people never responded which brings up another point Well how did you get back on? I had a forgot I had a back door way of doing it You hacked Twitter, nice. I didn't really hack Twitter but um...I got it! But I never heard from them they're supposed to let you know in a couple of days and then send notes directly to the public relations operation there. Never has gotten back. John okay here's how that goes hey I got a note from this Dvorak guy oh that creep forget about it alt-right crazy podcaster

1:25:20 Can I read to you the official Twitter statement setting the record straight on shadow banning? Because, I think they admit it here. People are asking us if we shadow ban. We do not! But let's start with what is shadow banning? The best definition we found is this deliberately making someone's content undiscoverable to everyone except the person who posted it unbeknownst of the original poster I think that's a good explanation or definition. We do not shadow ban, you are always able to see the tweets from accounts you follow although you may have to do more work to find them like go directly to their profile and we certainly don't shadow ban based on political viewpoints or ideology

1:26:08 We do rank tweets in search results. We do this because Twitter is most useful when it's immediately relevant. These ranking models take many signals into consideration to best organize tweets for timely relevance. We must also address bad faith actors who intend to manipulate or detract from healthy conversation." This is their whole mantra now, the healthy conversation. But a healthy conversation to me is boring So, as a specific example if a search result has 30 thousand tweets here's what we take into consideration when ranking it. Tweets from people you're interested in should be ranked highly. Tweets that are popular are likely to be interesting and should be higher ranked. Tweets from bad faith actors who intend to manipulate or divide the conversation should be ranked lower these are their rules

1:26:57 So that's very subjective to say bad faith actors who intend to manipulate or divide the conversation. I mean, what the hell? That means you can't contradict someone! That's always going to be political... Now... Well hold on They say this last bullet is the basis of our work around serving healthy public conversation Here are some of the signals we use to determine bad faith actors Specific account properties that indicate authenticity So whether you have a confirmed email address, how recently your account was created. Whether you uploaded a profile image etc... What actions you take on Twitter example who you follow who you retweet etc and how other accounts interact with you? Who mutes you? Who follows you? Who retweets you? Who blocks you?

1:27:42 So they're doing it on very, very interesting signals they're using but the bottom line is if you follow someone you may not necessarily see their tweets in your timeline because they are pushing that all the way down. They say that's not shadow banning I say its very similar It is shadow banning! Im NOT following someone like YOU Because I don't want to see your tweets. Yes, but I click on follow for a reason The reason is I want to see the tweets from the person I'm following All right some people follow a million people and that's useless But I would not I don't know do one them selectively giving me your tweets That was out of your tweets are important to me like does that's why I don't get once in awhile Don't get one of your tweets it says this show is just shipped what what I find

1:28:35 Strange in this case is we have an actual example of this backfiring. This type of newsfeed algoization, which took it from a reverse chronological order... ...which I think is the best way to go It's how this whole feed idea started going back to RSS and I'm sure you can find even earlier examples but RSS I think as a mainstay that way reverse chronological order And then and they know this slowly were adding things like something if you were following someone and they like something that would show up in your newsfeed But they're doing what Facebook proved pisses people off

1:29:16 by tinkering around with the reverse chronologic order. Now I know why they're doing it because that's part of the advertising model, but now they're letting it... They are confusing it with healthy conversation or whatever that is and so you going to get this type of action and backfires! It's not going to work. It has been proven people don't like it. They should just stay simple But I hadn't thought about the campaign contribution angle That's interesting Yeah, and that's the interesting part is an FEC violation. Federal Election Commission and I think they should go after Twitter Let's play these fake account clips which is similar And it also brings up another point I want to make Okay First one The chair recognizes the gentleman from

1:30:07 Idaho, Mr. Labrador for five minutes now which hearing was this was this the users on the Facebook hearing? Yeah, it was specifically about shadow banning I think the whole the whole sitting Thank You mr. Chairman Miss downs you mentioned in your opening statement or sometime in the beginning that there was only limited activity on your side from some of the Russian trolls and some of these entities, is that correct? That is correct. What did you mean by limited activity? Pursuant to our investigation around the 2016 election we found two accounts that had a spend of less than $5,000 in advertising and 18 YouTube channels with just over 1,000 videos in English that we terminated as soon as we identified them those were all linked to the... Can you tell me who this is? Is she from French? Who is she? Hi! Who is she? John? Yes?! Who is she??

1:31:07 She's the one that was the representative from YouTube. Okay, because he talked like that! Internet research agency... Okay Mr. Pickles would you consider it limited activity? That happened on Twitter We have 336 million users. Yes, this was a small proportion but the accounts we believe that were linked to the Internet Research Agency did run to several thousand That was too many and we've taken steps to make sure they come there were millions of users and there were several Thousand of these accounts Oh my god are we you know Please let us all remember that all of this bullcrap when your resulted in $100,000 worth of ads that really did nothing

1:31:47 It helped the show. And now we're arguing about stupid Twitter, but Twitter's great for some... to broadcast your message and everything else you know? Well it is not the point I'm trying to make. I know, all right, I'm listening. The thing is by the way that guy representing Twitter was a guy named Nick Pickles. Is he a lawyer? No, no it's just who cares you don't put a guy like that. I'll put my attorney Nick Pickles on the case everything will be fine. Nick Pickles knows he is the man for the job It's a great DJ name hey good morning everybody its Nick pickles with ya up until the noon hour Nick Pickles investigator Okay let's go on part two

1:32:36 She has a kicker. Facebook declined our request for an interview the company apologized for what happened and called the Oklahoma Police Department case a mistake Wait a minute, listen to that again hold on a second Facebook declined our request for an interview The company apologized for what happened and called the Oklahoma Police Department case a mistake Well, what did they apologize for? I don't know. Was that part, is that number two kicker or is that number three the result? Probably messed it up. Um...I don't know let me see if this is number 2 then. This comes as Facebook grapples with an even bigger battle of fake profiles bogus advertisers and foreign influence ahead of the 2018 midterm elections. Joleen Kent NBC News. I don't understand either those clips now

1:33:25 Okay, well the point that I'm trying to get to here was that we're talking NBC news and this happened on PBS. If you remember how to clip last show for PBS is what's we tried to talk to somebody at Twitter and they wouldn't be nobody would show up You try to talk to Google, or no it's Google. Facebook. Because it was about the EU problem. Nobody knows... they don't have no... Twitter has nobody and Facebook has nobody. Google has nobody these companies have all decided not to have any public face for anything they refuse to send a PR person they won't answer any reporters emails

1:34:04 Once in a while they do, I'm not gonna say completely. But if you wanna get ahold ahead of PR at Google you have to write an email to press there's no name just press at google dot com it does the same thing with Twitter these companies these new companies have all decided not to take the approach that don't say anything don't want to have a public relations person coming out to do damage control and the result has been what you're seeing cratering when they don't have to. If I was a shareholder, and by the way like I said, I lost my password and they didn't help me one bit when I tried to go through. Right if you were a shareholder you would've dumped your stock just in time by the way. Yeah it would've been a good call. These things don't happen... You don't have the world's biggest collapse in one day like they did at Facebook.

1:35:00 If you have expertise. Yeah, people managing the problem. I feel like what am i defending the public relations operations for? Because im always complaining about them but in this case What's wrong with these companies? Facebook, Twitter, Google and probably a few others. Microsoft still has public relations. Most companies that are smart have a public relations company to do damage control but these companies don't they pay no attention and when it comes to customer service it's the same thing I have a clip here um let's see if this is a if this is the facebook sell-off uh No Big Deal on NBC play this clip

1:35:47 The sell-off was staggering and unprecedented. Facebook losing $119 billion in market value today alone, the worst single day ever for a U.S. company after this profit warning from CEO Mark Zuckerberg. We're investing so much in security that it will significantly impact our profitability. Zuckerberg himself lost $15 billion in the sell-off, coming after two years of scandals and investigations It seems as though you turned a blind eye to this correct? Congressman I disagree with that assessment From Russian election meddling and disinformation to the 87 million users whose private information was compromised by Cambridge Analytica

1:36:26 Now, Facebook users are tightening their privacy settings and the number of daily users is dropping. So you could argue that there's a lot of rage out there against Facebook but where do people go to express their rage? They got a Facebook and Instagram. Facebook insists it's making changes to address privacy and security And it still dominates social media worldwide from London to Berlin, the Vegas Strip to Tokyo. Also owning Instagram Messenger and WhatsApp despite the stock sell-off today it's only back to where it was in May now this is an example of an out-of-control story that resulted in this huge collapse of the stock

1:37:06 It's again because they have no front-facing people that can deal with this kind of question. Do you know if they have investor relations? Can you get someone there I've never been able to okay, yeah, I've tried let's try this last clip fake cop profile on Facebook and listen to this This is JoLyn Kent. The world's largest social network is struggling in its battle against fake profiles the problem has become so big that Facebook says it's disabled 1.3 billion fake profiles over the past year police officer Justin Turney was killed in the line of duty at just 22 years old a year later as the community mourned a failed

1:37:50 profile with Turney's photo appeared on Facebook. I couldn't believe that somebody would stoop that low they had created a Facebook profile page stating that he was married, that he was from Iowa and that he was currently working at the Kansas City Kansas Police Department. Chief of police J.R Kidney says he contacted Facebook to remove the fake profile our response from Facebook has been zero This is another example, and this is beyond the PR problem I'm bitching about. They have no customer service! For example one of my service providers is Sonic.net. Sonic.net has someone you can call... The guy they string up actual physical wires it's not a bunch of servers and software

1:38:39 You can call, you get somebody on the line within a minute. They talk to you they're local they know what they're doing this sort of thing that fit these Facebook guys Twitter guys and Google guys are rolling in money they won't put 10 cents into customer service they won't put ten cents into public relations they will put ten cents into anything These guys are just A-holes at at the max. It's unbelievable and the fact that the press doesn't get more, their press is giving them crap but it's more subtle than what I'm doing. Well let's talk about this for a second having both worked in Silicon Valley at startups with venture capital funding as well do you think this is a cultural thing or is it an arrogance thing

1:39:32 Or is it a fear thing? Or, um... Is it a disdain for- Do they consider themselves to be overlords of media and don't need to talk to press. Although that's not entirely true the problem is bigger than that because they just have you said they have no front facing representation to their users I'm sure they have plenty to their advertisers. I think disdain would come in come into play I mean the fact that there's no customer service or this cop couldn't get anybody to take this dead guy's phony profile off the buff of Facebook and when I have another clip which I don't have with me, I'll Let me just ask another question. What would it cost them? Do you think to have front-facing customer facing people that you could talk to a lot less than the fine they're paying to the EU is

1:40:33 Which probably would have been, you know... Could it also be a culpability thing? Like hey we don't say anything so we can't be blamed for anything. I'm really trying to get to the bottom of your... I think there's an element of that but it began with Google when they pulled their, you know, I don't know who would you talk to over there, I said press at google.com No, I mean I got banned from from Google ad ad programs in 2010 2009 and Never got an answer and can never get on. Yeah, just done over now not there's no customer service There's no public really no public relations they spend nothing on that They just keep putting money in the bank okay But we're still don't know why this is I mean because it yeah you agreed

1:41:23 The Silicon Valley media companies for sure. I mean is it the same with SpaceX, for example? Or Tesla and do they have PR people this seems like... Tesla, I think there's elements of it at Tesla. I've never been able to get a hold of a PR person that Tesla even though I was doing all that work on electric cars Are you sure you tell them that your verified on Twitter so they know that your real journalist? I mean, this also have a good bio that I can hook onto those things. I also found that one of the somebody I thought would be a good contact at the way more way more is a good example of Google. They won't let anyone talk to him. The Google company well in your experience as a lifelong businessman entrepreneur legitimate

1:42:07 What do you think the ultimate result will be from this practice? It's not gonna be good. It's not gonna be pretty hmm, there's not gonna get here's the problem it wouldn't when they when the When everything hits the fan There's they're not going to have anybody just say hey wait a minute Let's look at it from another perspective these guys really aren't bad guys or anything like that. It's good and it'd be yeah Yeah, yeah Yeah, kind of It's just not a good, you're not going to have any friends because you've done nothing to befriend anybody. Or try at least get your message out there. They probably have... I mean Zuckerberg for one thing is gonna get kicked out of his own company if he keeps this up. Oh that's gonna be bad! And that would ruin the place cause it's like something of an oracle.

1:43:05 I just find it very interesting that these guys are, and I think arrogance has got a lot to do with it. Look at all the money we've made! We're doing...I just started up becoming...I'm worth billions. I know what I'm doing. People should love me because I'm rich. It's just baffling to me because I've never seen it before. This is fairly new phenomenon and if you go back 10 years and you look at all these new startups, they were getting ripped off by the PR companies in my opinion. But they had PR and they were at least trying if a crisis hit they'd bring in specialists and they clear it up but these guys don't even bother with that just like yeah too bad so this stock went down screw the shareholders. The shareholders should revolt against this. These are public companies, they're not private companies

1:44:01 Well, uh... And then they send Nick Pickles. Come on! It's almost like that's disdainful. Let's say who has the silliest name? Ah! Send Nick. He got a great name. Well you've been bitching about this lack of customer service since I've known you So this is not gone unnoticed, but I tend to agree that when you see this type of dramatic stock price drop there was just clearly no one to soften the fall. The way that with in Facebook's example the way the CFO just came out and said well because we changed them... We give people more privacy options so that's gonna fuck us! It's like hey what are you gonna do? We're still making billions who gives a shit?!

1:44:43 Yeah, pretty much. I mean that's the only way you can interpret this! Even Microsoft has excellent customer service You can call Microsoft up and they'll talk to you. They first have a robot... If you can find the right number, how many times raise your hand without talking if you've searched for a Microsoft help desk number and got some guy from India who wants to take control of your PC? Well there's that issue. That's a problem. A very big problem But at least there is somebody These guys have nobody There is zero customer service for Google Zero, and like you said you got your AdSense thing pulled so that you could never find anyone to do it. No one would talk to ya because there is nobody I mean it's either amateur hour which I don't believe because they had all these people that know what they're doing come and go or just this arrogance It's like yeah screw you So what the stock went down? It's fine You lost a little value so what Alright I think we get it By the way this complaint of mine is not going away No its okay but it can go away for now

1:45:50 I would like to play a Twitter sports related segment which is new for me as you know. I am NOT the sports guy on this show. I saw a great article the other day someone wrote about our show Something on medium, I think and it was it was really it was very flattering And you know But there was a glaring mistake in there that said that they make very accurate sports predictions for two guys who don't care about sports I Know John is very much into sports yeah now You know a lot about it and a lot about sports So for me to bring up a sports segment is novel. This is from Fox Sports 1, Fox Sports 1 It's a great show watch it all the time I guess they're all former NFL players who work at sports at Fox Sports one but this was an interesting rant about the problems with Twitter when it comes to professional ballplayers

1:46:50 I'm Jason Whitlock Colin Calhurt is off today coming up. I'll tell you why Jerry Jones is exactly what the NFL needs right now And for some reason this is not the clip, I made of it But we begin today with Cowboy star turned Monday night football broadcaster Jason Witten the future Hall of Fame tight end penned a column for ESPN calm Outlining the dangers of Twitter inside an NFL locker room Whitten wrote I've seen the negative impact social media can have, particularly on younger players who grew up with Twitter and Instagram as an integral part of life. A player checking Twitter at halftime? I've seen it! A player tweeting out a grievance with an organization about playing time or how he's being utilized? I see it far too often but the most concerning

1:47:40 Watching a really talented player corrupt his mind and confidence by reading all the critiques from anonymous football experts around the world. Negative social media can ruin a player, reading your mentions it's poison Thank you, Jason Witten. Just a couple of short months after retiring as a player, Witten is already doing more thoughtful insightful and impactful journalism than many of my peers I guess i shouldn't be surprised journalists are addicted to Twitter and afraid to say or write anything that might cost them twitter followers

1:48:17 I'm really sorry about the quality. I know i did a better version of this but it sounds fine okay yes anyway because this is where i wanted to start the clip, is that this? Where journalists We talked about this, they're all trolling on Twitter and they're afraid to say anything or report anything that might piss off their followers. This is something I hadn't taken into consideration that the journos themselves don't want to lose their important followers and engagements so they are very cautious as to what they write unless they are doing it for effect But the truth is, Twitter is a bigger threat to football than CTE. Ah! What is CTE?

1:48:58 That's that head injury that you get. Oh, Twitter is worse than head injuries! Twitter has more influence over many professional athletes then coaches executives and ownership the negative impact of twitter is inflicted most effectively on black athletes there's a Wikipedia entry for Black Twitter There's no such thing as white Twitter or Asian Twitter or Latino Twitter, or brown Twitter. There is only black Twitter When black people create something good it's quickly appropriated Little Richard recorded Tutti Frutti in 1955 One year later Elvis sang it on his first album for RCA You see what I'm getting at? Black twitter has been around for nearly a decade

1:49:48 No other group is mimicking it. Why? Because it's poison! Twitter baits people into thinking and believing the most ridiculous things Let me give you an example, Twitter has black people convinced that kneeling during the national anthem Is the cure for police brutality And not a gesture that undermines the success of an industry in a league That employs 70% African American players Black athletes need to get off Twitter. Now let's be clear, Jason Witten's column today had nothing to do with black Twitter. He was talking about Twitter in general. He can see its harmful impact on everyone! I can see its harmful impact on us—black people. It dumbs down complex conversations and distorts reality. Twitter will have you convinced the NFL is the enemy of the black man because The League wants his players to respect the national anthem. Witten said it best...

1:50:47 The Twitter mob is not a reflection of reality. All right, joining me now... There you go I liked his rant It was very good He should have if he wanted to make it stronger when he talked about Tutti-Frutti being expropriated by Elvis Yeah Should have mentioned Pat Boone also took this on Or could've just said this That's a show enough money shot! Woo Jesus! Woo Lord Look at that That's some money shot Conway is a money shot! That would have been just a little bit better if you'd added that. But yeah, it's dangerous and I hadn't... You know you don't think about the implications but you got guys tweeting at halftime and it's messing with their psyche what people are saying Well now that Dally brought this out

1:51:36 Didn't know these football players were this would be great. This is you're a gambler. Oh Yeah, he set up about 100 accounts that are you know? You get him built up a little bit make sure everybody follows each other just call the Internet Research Agency They got it all set together Just called them I was just having slam some guy at halftime some receiver on one of the big teams during the big game Exactly. And the next thing you know, he's dropping balls and they lose the game and you're becoming a winner. It sounds like it is exactly yes. That was your best sports segment ever? Probably the only one I've ever done. Well that's what I said yeah thanks so here is Jake Tapper

1:52:24 brought on the Colbert it slammed the president and do they all this kind of thing is Jake promoting a book what's Jake doing on Colbert he was just there to slam Trump yeah Okay. So what's the upshot? How long is she banned? It was just for that one event, but the good news is that the White House press corps including people like Brett Baier at Fox News and others... I saw him he said we stand with you guys. We stand with CNN and Fox News put out a statement um I guess speaking for the part of the news division that doesn't spend their entire time trying to attack the rest of us

1:53:02 But that the part of the news division that actually is trying to do journalism And said we stand for you know press access. We stand with Caitlin Collins and other people on press access This is new this is new it went from press first its freedom of the press which means you can print whatever You want that got bastardized into press freedom, which means hey man Freedom in the press but different and now we have press access Yeah, so they have the rights. They've right and said we stand for you know press access We stand with Caitlin Collins and other people did that too when it was Caitlin Collins now She was the one who was kicked out of the press out of the okay? The press concert was over but she made a big fuss start yelling and screaming So they okay stop stop if they stood with her oh

1:53:50 Then they would be outside standing with her, not inside asking questions. Peace! It was good to see but that's it I mean there is no upshot of it. But then like 45 minutes later Lou Dobbs said CNN who the hell do you think you are? It's about time you got called on the carpet or whatever like that. Yeah, well because that's the other half of Fox News That says that sort of thing and is just ride-or-die to go after Lou? What'd I go after him? Did you go after him? What do mean after did I attack him? Did you attack them on Twitter? Did I attack them on Twitter no what you know what it did Do though is I quoted something that he had said when a conservative reporter asked tough questions of President Obama in like 2012 and and Lou Dobbs

1:54:29 it might surprise you to find out, had a very different take on the situation. And thought that Obama was being rude by not answering the questions. Wow! Yeah, well hold on so I took the... he actually went on at the end there and got cut short so i have the real actual clip of him Going, wow! Wow!" as though he's really shocked by this. I got the ISO for maybe the end of show. Wow yeah wow wow wow wow wow And so rhythmic. Fits perfectly in the beat well yeah this it's interesting how the Gitmo Nation proper media is

1:55:19 Loves to make the story about themselves Continuously they believe there's a story here. They think it's Orwellian They think it's you know that well, here's NPR once again This is from their news show this week and PR Jack Beatty Here's the hater again He's going to and I it might be in the Trump rotation or well Do we have Orwellian 1984? Is that in the rotation? No, but I can put it in. Yeah we may have to Earlier in the week during remarks to the Veterans of Foreign Wars National Convention in Kansas City President Trump lambasted the media telling the audience don't believe the quote crap you see from these people the fake news end quote just oh We have to we have to breathe heavily when we speak these words because it truly is

1:56:10 bad for democracy and press freedom and press access. From these people, the fake news." Just remember what you're seeing in what you are reading is not what's happening. What you're seeing and what your reading is not what's happening. Jack Beattie your thoughts about that? Well of course everybody has gone to Orwell's 1984 dig up quotations like this one quote The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." Wow! Nice way to turn around Orwell huh? In 1984 last time I read the book it was the Ministry of Truth who would bring you the correct answers and that is what came up on so called telescreens So this is the reverse of what they're saying

1:57:09 Whereas Trump is in essence saying what you hear from the Ministry of Truth and you see on the telescreens is not happening. But they're turning it around! President, I mean...I think we all have to look at what he said there You know don't believe which what you're seeing Don't don't believe reality believe me There's a phrase of Lionel Trilling, the moral obligation to be intelligent. We have a moral obligation, a civic obligation to be intelligent, to try and read the world as it is Certainly not, as a self-interested leader tells us. And this is a test of citizenship for people. Do they really want themselves to be described as people who don't believe the evidence of their senses and believe a supreme leader? Does that idea of citizenship comport with any model of democracy?

1:58:05 democratic life that we know of. It's a scandal, the president could say something like that it's an even bigger scandal that so many people believe him. Now I have some thoughts on this...I think your analysis is perfect by the way he's telling you that the telescreen is full of crap! This was brought up by Anderson Cooper and two stooges and I wish I had the clip of where they played this clip and they went berserk over this, calling it 1984. And they said don't believe what you see who's he kidding? And all that sort of thing. Mm hmm. And in this guy says is a moral obligation to be intelligent. And when I heard Trump, I knew what he meant

1:58:53 I knew what he meant. He meant that these guys are faking stories and they're putting them on the air, and they're saying stuff that's bull crap. Don't believe it! I knew what he meant. I'm not a big Trump fan. I knew exactly what he meant, and everybody else knew what he meant but these guys don't seem to know what he meant. They don't seem to know what he meant. He says crazy stuff every once in awhile because you know what he is talking about Because you're actually in tune a little bit with what might be going on. You're not in dimension B and you're not selectively taking stuff and interpreting it wrong, but this was a misinterpretation done by all the guys on the left

1:59:33 And it was one after the other. I'm stunned that you found another one of these clips saying pretty much the same thing and the guy says, oh i'm stunned that all these people went along with this craziness they knew what he meant apparently your too stupid to know what he meant. Maybe not. I like the term ignorant Yeah I know Well, he went on with his ignorance. Well I expect that it'll whip up some feeling but you know the context here is a historic development this week we learned in Quinnipiac poll that a slight majority of Americans are convinced that Putin has something on President Trump

2:00:23 From 1984, of course. Whatever has been true... We got it from the media who's been promoting this idea That's why I said this is an NPR news show Putin has something on President Trump That never has been true of any president. That belief is just inconceivable to someone like me, raised in the Eisenhower years it sounds like unbelievable science fiction and this comes when there's talk that sometime in September Mueller is going to send a report to Congress documenting an obvious pattern of obstruction of justice

2:01:03 And at a time when the collusion issue is heating up with new revelations from Michael Cohen that he knows of a meeting... Any collusion? ...that President Trump knew in advance of the June 2016 meeting where the Russians were coming to share dirt on Hillary. And, of course already we know that they were something like according to one account... Hey John you're banging the drums Sorry. 82 known contacts between the Trump team and Russia linked operatives, none of these reported to authorities so lots of suggestion of collusion and obstruction as plain as the president's tweets And all this perhaps coming to a head in the fall I find it hurts my brain that

2:01:56 Yeah, and of course it hurts because we've had so many different versions of the collusion. So now the latest is Trump knew about the meeting where they were going to possibly get information dirt as this guy said on Hillary Clinton and that would be somehow bad versus The Clintons who actually paid a foreign spy to go to Russia knowing that he has Russian contacts, to get information from Russia. To get the dirt on Donald Trump which then eventually turned into a wiretapped FISA warrant and all kinds of other stuff Am I missing a piece? No you're not missing anything these guys are they're deluded! I don't know what their problem is at this point This has gone on too long But this comes back to the...you know Don't be stupid

2:02:51 You have a moral obligation to be smart. Yeah, you have a moral obligation to be intelligent. That's the exact quote. Intelligent yes It's confusing to me I mean that just doesn't anyone else see this? Well the fact that you'd come up with something like that always reminds me of my mom My mother uh...I always thought she had a bad attitude She was friendly and she was jovial with people but she was a negative person And all she did was read books about positive thinking and she'd also, all she said was oh you gotta think positive. You gotta think positive. This is the same thing. It's like you have a weakness because you're not intellectual. Your stupid and so you start talking about oh you know you got to think more. You gotta think more. You gotta think smart. You gotta be smart. You gotta be intelligent. I think it's the same phenomenon as like your idiot

2:03:51 You somehow sense it deeply since you're disturbed, your brain doesn't work right and you get this kind of dystopian look at everything. And so this is what you say, you say something like that I would never... moral obligation to be intelligent. Just guessing because I noticed in people that I notice this with copy editors Copy editors are people who want to learn, wanna write. They all wanna be writers. Why else would you get into it? And they figure by going and getting into the grammar and all the little nitpicking stuff about writing and being critical of everybody else's work will somehow transform you into an actual writer when it is very rare most copy editors are copy editors for their forever

2:04:37 Because they and it's just like you're doing it the wrong way, and it's like this kind of thing. These guys are that's why I think stoop is not a bad word Well, I'd like that people are bringing up 1984 I liked that They're you know showing this again And animal farm as being mentioned and hopefully the kids will go on now watch the movie because the CIA edited those to make the endings different. But read the books, I'm sure they're available online for free to read 1984 by George Orwell while you're at it. It's a good book yeah while you're at it get uh Adoxus... what is it? Huxley! Yeah Adolphous Huxley. Is it all Adolphous? Adolfous Huxley

2:05:16 Brave new world is brave. It's a good book get that one get animal farm and read it. This is Aldous I think now, I don't remember now. It's brave. Yeah, I see brave new world Animal Farm. Because this idea that the press is under attack and you know, that fake news and just all these things and the undoubted regulations that are going to come from this... This is why these hearings are taking place with Twitter It's all about control because they control television. They I'll just say they Because it's a big circle jerk, it's the media companies their own by corporate entities They donate to politicians they help with regulations goes round and round and now they're reigning in The social media networks is that's what this is all about? It's happening all over the world This is the UK think we have to be slightly careful between this is member of Parliament Collins

2:06:13 and a bit of good image management, and downright unmitigated lies which is what we see on social media time and time again in the political sphere. defamatory lies about politicians, defamatory adverts about me that purport to say I say you should put money into get-rich schemes and then people lose money on the back of. That's not a little bit of spin politics has always been about a little bit of spin and i'm sure it's been about lies in the past too but whether it happened in the past or now. What we need to do is look at the medium it's happening with and say how do we regulate it? How do we stop it, how do we make it a better and fairer landscape for people? And this report is attempting to do that and for that I applauded." This is about the crisis in our democracy report by the members of Parliament in the UK and they want a digital Atlantic Charter! Now what was the Atlantic Charter originally? This is Eisenhower days isn't it

2:07:13 I have no idea. I'll look it up while you talk. Yeah, okay well... So we're at this place now where we're putting in and we want to have all kinds of regulation about what really regulating speech because whatever you say if it's not my opinion is fake news and that goes both ways And, okay. Did you find it? The digital... Yeah! It was done by Roosevelt and it was a charter that would outline what would happen after World War II regarding how we work together all the allies So precursor like NATO It wasn't a NATO because it didn't involve violence Well neither does this although who knows We've gone collectively insane Eventually became the United Nations

2:08:09 Yeah, okay. So you know there you go that makes sense that we need a United Nations of fake news or real news God knows It's just as well now you brought up Tucker I want to play two Tucker clips one which i thought was really phenomenal both legal constitutional topics which I like And one just so off base and so stupid, could not believe that he let that slide. I don't know if it was Thursday or Friday to see if he ever corrects it. This first one was something that any constitutional lawyer would love talking about the birthright citizenship

2:08:46 So the generally accepted idea, which is based on the 14th Amendment is if you're born in the United States then you are by birthright an American citizen. And I think that's generally accepted As it turns out, there is an alternative interpretation to the amendment. Well you have to read the whole 14th Amendment It says there's a clause in the middle that people ignore or they misinterpret Subject to the jurisdiction thereof meaning of the United States What their saying is if your born on US soil subject to the jurisdiction of the United States meaning

2:09:24 child of citizens or the child of legal immigrants, then you are entitled to citizenship. If you're here illegally if you owe allegiance to a foreign nation if you're the citizen of a foreign country that clause does not apply to you. If you read the debate about the ratification of the 14th amendment all the senators who are discussing what this is meant to do and what it means are very clear on this point I tried to point that out I expected the left would blow up and get angry which they did What I didn't expect, at least not to this extent and what was very disappointing was how angry the so-called conservative intellectuals got with me. I never considered that it says subject to and interpreting the word subject as you are a subject, your subject of or your subject to our subject of? Well, I don't think it had to do its subject too. I think referred to laws. Yeah

2:10:16 to the local laws of the way. I think that there's a, this has been discussed before and i think we've discussed it on the show. I don't remember It's very sketchy about you know the 14th amendment. It was done to keep make sure that all those slaves largely were given citizenship It wasn't for people to come running into the country, have a baby and say look American. Right? But that's the result. Yeah but they could put the kibosh on that. They should just put the kibosh on that is I don't see it being a big deal but everyone's all... And if he's right and the left likes the way it is and the conservatives like why are the conservatives what are they that's baffling to me I don't know what he's talking about but okay

2:10:58 Well, he's not going to do anything about it because you don't want to do anything. When he says conservatives, he only means politicians. You know they'll say whatever they need to say that you can't trust politicians You can't yeah, I noticed all right So here's this bogus claim which when Tina and I were watching this and we saw this we're like holy crap if this This is true. This isn't outrage And I never heard it and I went to go look at what was true about it? And this was just you talk about some fake news. This is it well I don't understand exactly how that works that I'm not advocating people going bankrupt. I mean there are moral issues around that But I do wonder why student loan debt is exempted from the normal bankruptcy protections. How did that happen? How did they get a pass on that? Well, you could actually extinguish it in bankruptcy up until 1995 when Congress tightened it up making it all but impossible however they did exclude and you have to love this their own offspring so if you are the child of a member of congress you can't extinguish your student loans by going to bankruptcy court

2:12:01 Gotta love that. For real? Yes, well I do! That's unbelievable so was this a lobbying operation where student loan lenders decided why would we want to face the risk of not getting our money back Well think about who the student loan lender is. It's the federal government, the government has all but run most of all other lending out of the market you just can't compete with a federal government So this woman who I think is a professor at some college Is completely wrong about this and then I listen to them like are you kidding me? This is as big scandal that they can do insider trading which no one else seems to care about But this is completely untrue

2:12:46 The only thing that she could be referring to is the Federal Student Loan Repayment Program, which although not what she said does benefit offspring of those in Congress. So you're not denying the fact that you can't bankruptcy yourself out of this debt? I'm not denying that. That's the scam of scams as far as I am concerned. Yeah well I just wanted to mention it's not true that the federal employees' kids can get out of it. I thought she meant legislature's kids? It doesn't matter, it's a Federal Student Loan Repayment Program, that's what she is referring to and it does not allow you to get out your loan if you go into bankruptcy and there's no loan forgiveness program but agencies can make payments to the loan holder

2:13:36 up to a maximum of $10,000 for an employee in the calendar year. Total is not more than 60,000 for any one employee and I guess that somehow can go to your... if you hold the loan for your kid so as an employment incentive which is a nice one by the way just chopping 10 grand off it or up to 60 grand is very nice but its not like you get out of it if you're going into bankruptcy So I just need to call that out as total bullcrap. But the fact remains, that at this point we have kids graduating college universities with a worthless piece of paper that does nothing you've learned nothing and their minimum 50 grand in debt. Minimum! If they're lucky... Yeah which is the definite and you can't get out of it which is kind of the definition of slavery's know its human trafficking. I agree all right

2:14:48 This is one more story that just shoots down in your neck of the woods. I want to play this clip because this is one of these clips that we had. It's just, i don't know why i want to play this clip because it's the same complaint we have with every one of these clips which is they never bring up what drugs the guy was on but this is the weird Texas shooting rampage The killing spree at a nursing home Texas police investigating a deadly shooting rampage At least five people killed in two different locations The new details from police just coming in ABC's Adrian Banker picks up the story Tonight, nursing home nightmare. Five people killed in two shootings in a suburb of Corpus Christi Texas. We just heard like pop

2:15:31 and we could see the flash, right? City officials say 60-year old Richard Stary murdered his 85 year old father and his stepmother before taking his own life at a nursing home Friday evening. At the sound of gunfire some try to get away with the elderly And I saw all these people running in there saying run so my dad...we just grabbed him in the wheelchair and started taking off Just down the road more heartbreak. A phone call from a relative leads officers to find two more bodies inside the home of Starry's father, a 40 year old believed to be his stepmother son and a 13 year old Police believe Starry was the only gunman committing the first shooting at the home before going to the nursing home where he killed His parents then turned the gun on himself Nursing Home Nightmare that makes for a great headline

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2:26:02 So tonight is the deadline for kids ages 5 and older. And there's been a lot of discussion about the actual numbers and what the government has... Hey, does she care about that homeless and people crapping in the streets in San Francisco or anything going on in this country? You're not having a terrible, terrible dream also you're not dead and haven't gone to hell This is your life now! This our election now! This us! This our country Yeah I think she does That was what she had to say about the poop in San Francisco Okay.

2:26:54 I think we're looking at between 700 and 900 kids who will not be reunified. The government's going to claim they made the deadline, but that's only because they took out those 700-900 kids and said we can't reunify them by the deadline so we're gonna just define Who's eligible to be reunified by the deadline and then we're gonna declare that we met the deadline But people should understand that there are hundreds and hundreds of kids who will still be sitting alone tomorrow Without their parents in cages crying Eating tortillas with peanut butter bad enough. Did they have to make stuff up? They're sitting alone Yeah, sitting alone

2:27:39 So I guess there's some number fudging going on. Yeah, well what are you gonna do? I don't know it's kind of off the table The kids in cages doesn't seem to be that important anymore now They're going to keep saying it gets a lot of people worked up yeah But I guess Trump is now threatening to threatening and threatening a shutdown Oh, I didn't know this. Yeah if we don't...if he doesn't get his immigration package introduced which it's anything with a wall as long as there is something with the wall otherwise he's kind of hinting at shutting down the government please say that's not true let's not do that again It's probably bull crap yeah you would have shut the government down by now

2:28:25 In the olden days, there was like hitchhiking in the 60s and 70s. And people would you know it was ride sharing that became Uber. Yeah actual ride sharing! And then people started murdering and raping... Well news reports started coming out about murdering and raping Well, yeah they did. Well here's a serial killer rapist using new technology I think it is worth listening to this story. Next night the man suspected of rape and murder using dating sites not to find love but to hunt his next victim. Here's ABC's Errol Reshef Tonight this murder suspect accused of using dating sites to lure victims in a string of barbaric assaults. This individual uses dating websites to meet women and then victimize these women. Police sources now say 27 year old Daniel Drayton claimed to have committed several

2:29:13 murders. We are actively encouraging any victims or anyone with information on this case because there's potentially more victims out there. Drayton arrested in a North Hollywood hotel where police say they found him holding a woman captive to independent investigations as they progressed led our detectives to one in the same individual that individual was tracked across the country. Drayton also Already a cross-country fugitive wanted in New York for the murder of Samantha Stewart, 29 year old nurse in Queens. The victim's father is in shock. I am mourning heartbroken and in pieces. Police believe the two met on an online dating app. Authorities now also connecting Drayton to the recent rape of 23 year old woman in Brooklyn.

2:29:58 in Brooklyn. It's a common denominator in these two cases, one being a murder and one being rape is dating websites. And Drayton faces a litany of charges including murder and attempted murder he's been held in Los Angeles on more than $1 million bail and has not entered a plea and Tom investigators are now working to determine if there are indeed more victims. There's a lot of victims right now there could be even more alright Ariel thank you. Oh yeah ban the dating apps That's the thing that's interesting about this story is they never named the dating app and why not it's Tinder Yeah, does Disney own it? I mean well. We're not sure its Tinder There's there's a couple of other very popular one yet There was hints visual handset. It was tender all right yeah So what's your question? I'm surprised this hasn't happened earlier we haven't heard about it earlier oh

2:30:54 Well, I think this guy's gonna crop back up. Because I think this guy is a serial murderer and you're going to find him... Ooh! The Tinder Terror. Mmm. Juicy. Remember the Craigslist stuff? Were there a lot of that? Yeah, there was a bunch of Craigslist creeps. You know what? None of this is good. None of this is healthy. All these social networks all these connection places we're not prepared for that as human beings And we're not prepared to find out how ugly we actually are, all of us. Not just in what we say but in what we do There's my luminescence moment of the day Yeah there you go... mom John! Stay positive! John Charles stay positive You know nothing good can come from that attitude

2:31:52 Well, speaking of the centralized stuff. No sooner had I mentioned it than LifeLock had a security scare. Yes exactly! What a call! LifeLock had a security scare but this was...I mean it was customer email so wasn't necessarily you know it wasn't a breach but it was definitely something that was not good and was a third-party account But man, I'm telling you all of the centralized stuff is just it's where you're most at risk. Put it all in one place! This was supposed to end with a computer revolution in the mid-70s. It was! How was it supposed to end? Because we didn't have mainframes? Instead of centralizing control, it was over. Right

2:32:46 mainframes, mainframes to distribute to the personal computer, the desktop computer, desktop marketing, desktop everything. And you'd have your own databases. You could do that and why are we putting...you can buy I just went to Costco. I think it's a hundred something, $100 maybe $120. For terabyte? Six! Six terabytes?! 6 terabytes, new six-terabyte drive. I think it's about 150 bucks That's a lot of storage. Why would I want to spend my monthly fee to store that in something that can have a breach? Yeah, well it's because people are lazy haven't look if we just retrace the history the personal yeah Look hear me now. Look the personal computer It was a revolution and we were going to be able to do all these things ourselves And program them and have you know make electric grandmothers out of them? And it would be fantastic and that capability is

2:33:42 exists. It's been, it never been more available at your fingertips to do all these things that were promised but people are inherently lazy and they say oh here is a free thing well it does for me I don't need to set up database Dvorak screw you! I'll just use these guys database over here its in the cloud FREE Yeah, so there's your answer. But if people took 20 minutes to learn how to do some of the stuff themselves they wouldn't have these problems I agree and you know and we'd be using some other great open source voice over IP client that would not give us trouble but yeah

2:34:26 There probably is one, but who knows. That's the other thing I bitched about this in a recent column. Nice! I read it It's all kinds of cool stuff But you don't know what they... You know these guys that did on SourceForge and GitHub and all the other ones there's about five They aren't into marketing they're into just having their buddies say hey that's pretty cool Yeah, its social networking for nerds I have this clip on here says Cory Booker clips Hmm Did he go nuts somewhere recently? Well it's a very short, I think it's 30 seconds but...I have no idea what this is. Okay so also doesn't start until here here we go Do you remember when Maxine Waters said this? If you see anybody from that cabinet in the restaurant

2:35:14 New Jersey Senator Cory Booker now doubling down on that rhetoric. Please don't just come here today and then go home, go to the Hill today! Get up in... please get up in the face of some Congress people. Booker's comments at the National Conference on Ending Homelessness come days after he called people who support President Trump Supreme Court nominee quote complicit and evil Yes, well I'm agreeing with Cory Booker. Based on my theory he is complicit in only allowing himself to be appointed for it to go through the senatorial review process where all of Hillary's, Hilary assassination group crimes will come to light

2:36:05 Yeah, I know that's an interesting theory. We'll have to see it's coming. I want to play this clip. You know there's we got a very thoughtful email from one of our producers who says he loves the show but he's always little bit irked when we say that artificial intelligence is stupid and it's not really artificial intelligence and it wasn't it was a well thought out note I'm saying, well you know artificial intelligence if you do an image search that's AI. If you search for anything it just called search and that's actually AI. You know my response is... Well if your going to call everything AI yeah its great!

2:36:43 And it's no, it's not great. Amazon's facial recognition software is under fire tonight after a shocking test by the ACLU Take a look at this tweet The ACLU says they used the recognition software to compare photos of Congress members to a database of mug shots They got 28 false matches. 40% of the false matches were people of color Now at least four lawmakers have written letters to Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos asking him to immediately fix the inaccuracies In a statement, an Amazon spokesperson argued that the ACLU didn't use the tool properly We think that the results could probably be improved by following best practices around setting the confidence thresholds when using facial recognition for law enforcement activities. We guide customers to set a threshold of at least 95% or higher." Yeah, because all of the people from Congress should be labeled as criminals so the AI clearly doesn't work right

2:37:46 I have done a show before that it's fairly well-known fact that black faces are not easy to do these facial recognitions with because of the contrast. It is racist! Amazon is racist, we've always known it... I'll go with that. Yeah, it's racist race let me ask you this legitimate news story or product placement. We're back now with a deepening mystery over a missing University of Iowa student she went for a jog in her hometown last week and hasn't been seen since now the FBI is hoping something she's been known to wear can help lead them to her and tonight worried family members are speaking out to our Ron Mott. And also listen to the mom man it

2:38:28 If my kid was missing, been missing for almost a week I don't know. I would be beside myself In the heart of Iowa, a desperate search underway for missing college student Molly Tibbetts who disappeared a week ago Have somebody recognize her and get her home safe Molly's missing posters showing the sophomore are plastered all over he tiny hometown of Brooklyn, Iowa Her mom, grateful but worried. Of course I'm hopeful she's going to be found because she is tough and smart She says the 20-year old was dog sitting for her boyfriend's brother Investigators say Tibbetts had gone out for a run and sent a snapchat to her boyfriend around 10 p.m last Wednesday He was the last to hear from her And they're now treating the missing person case as criminal We are combing through all types of digital evidence

2:39:14 you know, that Molly had and utilized. She's 20 years old she is a college student she is well connected. Tibbetts is an avid runner who always wore a Fitbit device the FBI is now hoping to use to secure her location through her digital footprint A Facebook page set up to help find her has almost 30 thousand followers So I mean if she was wearing the fit bit then they would already know wouldn't they? Or is this just not necessary? They just had an idea like, oh we just had an idea. Yeah she's very connected digital so we should be able to... Well why don't they found her yet I know these Fitbit watches are pretty impressive the new ones well the question is a question you asked me yeah So it was a product placement or real story? I think it's a real story. Product placement stories tend to dwell on the product and they don't mention other products like Facebook

2:40:12 I just don't, it's possible but it is pretty extremely advanced. It's very advanced if it's used right. Yeah, I'm giving people way too much credit you're right. Here's this news that I guess we take as positive. The remains of what is thought to be around 50 soldiers have now been returned to US soil here at the Osan Air Base in South Korea they were brought out in small caskets onto cars and there were a number thousands of soldiers for here at the airbase who stood in silence and saluted as those remains were carried out they will now be tested to see if they are indeed that means

2:40:55 of US soldiers. There are around 5,000 unaccounted for still in North Korea after the Korean War some of the remains have been returned over the years there has been a lull as that the peace process has not exactly gone smoothly all of this takes place on the 65th anniversary of the signing of the armistice that will not have bypassed North Korea. This is a major concession by Pyongyang and part of the pledge made by Kim Jong-un to Donald Trump at that summit in Singapore it It may be now that Pyongyang is looking for some concessions of its own from Washington, perhaps an easing of sanctions. They want the peace process moved forward but the fundamental problem remains North Korea still has nuclear missiles and nuclear material." And I picked a BBC version of this story specifically so you can still hear this kind of like well You know what we think are the remains of the servicemen have we seen the story yet?

2:41:55 That these are fake bones? I mean, has that surfaced yet because i'm expecting that any minute now. Oh! Who knows?! That might be just fake. I think the thing that, the story I keep hearing is that and this kind of contradicts it is that Trump gave away the store to the North Koreans you know by conceding they're not going do war games. Right And there's no mention of anything else It's just Trump gave away the store he's dumb He's stupid for letting a guy walk all over him Yes That's nuts That's the story If things are getting very bad in Europe, I just want to do two seconds of news from other parts of the world where we don't live. Actually two if you don't mind this will start in Hungary Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has attacked the European Union claiming the Western political elite had failed to protect the bloc from Muslim immigration

2:40:55 of US soldiers. There are around 5,000 unaccounted for still in North Korea after the Korean War some of the remains have been returned over the years there has been a lull as that the peace process has not exactly gone smoothly all of this takes place on the 65th anniversary of the signing of the armistice that will not have bypassed North Korea. This is a major concession by Pyongyang and part of the pledge made by Kim Jong-un to Donald Trump at that summit in Singapore it It may be now that Pyongyang is looking for some concessions of its own from Washington, perhaps an easing of sanctions. They want the peace process moved forward but the fundamental problem remains North Korea still has nuclear missiles and nuclear material." And I picked a BBC version of this story specifically so you can still hear this kind of like well You know what we think are the remains of the servicemen have we seen the story yet?

2:41:55 That these are fake bones? I mean, has that surfaced yet because i'm expecting that any minute now. Oh! Who knows?! That might be just fake. I think the thing that, the story I keep hearing is that and this kind of contradicts it is that Trump gave away the store to the North Koreans you know by conceding they're not going do war games. Right And there's no mention of anything else It's just Trump gave away the store he's dumb He's stupid for letting a guy walk all over him Yes That's nuts That's the story If things are getting very bad in Europe, I just want to do two seconds of news from other parts of the world where we don't live. Actually two if you don't mind this will start in Hungary Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has attacked the European Union claiming the Western political elite had failed to protect the bloc from Muslim immigration

2:42:57 He claimed European Parliament elections next year could be decisive for the future of Europe. In an annual speech to ethnic Hungarians in Romania, he attacked the European Commission over its failure to protect the fundamental values behind the setting up of the European Union. The commission must be impartial and unbiased, he said Instead, it's partial because it stands with liberal forces acting against Central and Eastern European countries. He went on to say the Commission was not a friend of freedom because it was working towards building European socialism instead of freedom Hungary is glad he said that the European Commission days are numbered The right-wing nationalist Orbán was reelected in April for his third consecutive term

2:43:42 He's been in constant conflict with the European Commission over what Brussels calls an erosion of democratic institutions in formerly communist East European countries. Well there is someone who has the right idea at least, in Europe one guy although of course he's a right-wing nationalist crazy nutball crazy junker Did you see that picture on Twitter of the mess it's in this making the claim that Amsterdam after midnight is just a mess? Yes, in fact I have that article. Police can no longer handle the lawless jungle after dark in Amsterdam. I would say that is absolutely true now the way... Really?! yes Now the way that is based on CCTV cameras at the Leidseplein

2:44:29 Which, of course I grew up there. That's the central square where people when you're going out and a lot of people walking there it was really all pedestrian areas of course scooters are racing around people on crazy just nuts and what is also true in the article that they're now 2,000 illegal taxis roaming the streets at night looking for fares absolutely true There's a whole shadow economy that is, once you look at it through the CCTV cameras you see what's going on. And it's drug dealing, big cash moving all over the place... Yeah! I would say this is absolutely true. Absolutely. A buddy of mine who works for Amsterdam police force, I'll ask him if he feels its gotten as bad as it appears to be but I think so. I hear from Taxi Eric too

2:45:26 It's just, uh... Why don't they do something about it? Oh man! It's Amsterdam. We want the tourism. Tourism- People are so mad who live in Amsterdam there is too much tourism Which of course breeds crime too. It's just for some reason this is maybe the only way the EU can still keep their GDP numbers up, we need more tourism and please count the drug trade like in the UK remember they wanted to count cocaine dealers and hookers into the GDP? Well, there's other stuff going on with Europe and other parts of Europe. I thought this was an interesting report. Welcome to Croatia's Dubrovnik a once hidden gem that has become the victim of its own success Too many tourists... too too many! I'm living with earplugs

2:46:16 The picturesque medieval town, the set of King's Landing and Game of Thrones. People flocking to walk the same steps. Shame! It is a tourist flood in. Locals fed up with noise and overcrowding are moving out. There are some moments when I really think that this We can't stand it anymore. We have to move. Critics say once thriving communities are now turning into tourist theme parks. Some kind of Walt Disney Town, Disneyland or something like that. Tourism has boomed here in recent years a record 1.16 million visitors in 2017, arriving by bus plane and gigantic cruise ships that together overwhelmed this small city with up to 15 thousand tourists today It's Game of Thrones tourism This is the problem What did the City of Dubrovnik... I've been there Beautiful place long before it was a tourist trap

2:47:16 Why would the city officials just for some money... Yeah, why? There it is. End of debate! For money, of course but it's really about the town now It's like Florence remember when we were in Florence last summer. It was horrible It's just wall-to-wall tourists and high end shops I'm not going to Florence yeah Oh there's a museum you can go to You see David fine No, it's horrible. Yeah that's no good! It's overrun it's all over run yeah well this is ridiculous but you put to do something like the Game of Thrones? It's like this situation over in San Francisco we have a some... Sorry just before you continue I think that Florence was also super overcrowded because of the new Da Vinci Code movie which was all set in Florence

2:48:15 I think there's a thing happening here. We can probably identify where the next big tourism rush is going to be. Oh, investment opportunities! Yes! Now you're talking finally we can buy ourselves a dedicated line between San Francisco and whatever they call Austin next month Well, is Austin gonna become a place for shooting movies? No That's the idea You want to get somebody in there with a famous show Right Idiocracy was filmed here. Well, it didn't work out It's not historic enough San Francisco has got an issue with those little Victorians that are near that park and then there's some house that was used in some remake of a TV show from the 70s and everybody stopping there and taking a picture on their Oh full house Yeah, yeah, yeah The Full House House is like

2:49:12 being ruined by these tourists. Damn tourists! We're just all spending our money in other people's countries But what is the point of, oh look at me I'm on the steps of The Game Of Thrones set? Yeah and you get to stand there and go shame...shame...shame Well John, I think that it's just the world we live in. I don't even know what you're referring to with this shame thing, I've never seen this show. Yeah well we've talked about this extensively This is where the whole social justice warrior thing came from. Shame, shame, shame! There's this walk that I've never seen one episode of the show it's from the show ding shames ding shame ding shame That's pathetic if true Of course it's true Look around you The people not listening to this program in general are zombies So we had...I want to get them one last thing out of the way

2:50:19 Cohen. Okay, let's start with the Cohen update now to politics and the growing divide between President Trump and his former fixer Michael Cohen president Trump's legal team warning Cohen both publicly and privately that he is in violation of attorney-client privilege Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani telling ABC News tonight that Cohen has been alerted and that he's in quote grave jeopardy of being disbarred ABC's Tara Palmieri is with the president in New Jersey tonight Tonight the president's legal team firing a warning shot to his longtime fixer and former lawyer Michael Cohen Attempting to silence him. We have complained to them that he's violating the attorney client privilege publicly and privately this breakdown comes as ABC News has learned that Cohen claims at then candidate Trump knew in advance

2:51:08 about that infamous Trump Tower meeting with the Russians in 2016. It is quite a bombshell if it's true and if it can be corroborated, it would mean that the president was willing personally to accept Russian help during the campaign something President Trump has consistently denied. The president's attorney Rudy Giuliani telling ABC News by phone that they've ended their joint defense agreement, another sign of the striking divorce between the two. He's in grave jeopardy of being disbarred. Cohen's legal bills no longer covered by the Trump campaign he's under investigation in the Southern District of New York for financial crimes now Giuliani saying the legal team has hired audio experts to analyze secret recordings Cohen made of Trump 2 months before the election The conversation about a hush payment for Playboy model Karen McDougal who claims she had an affair with Trump

2:52:02 What news network was this on? That had to be, uh... So that was ABC. It's just shameful! This is stupid! This is not news it's wasting everybody's time. It is And by you playing it again I kind of get mad just all over again Well then if you might as well play part two which this is different show I believe There are thoughts on Cohen and the bass which tells me none of this is important but I have to agree with you It was also reported that Michael Cohen does not have audio recordings of then-candidate Donald Trump to prove his accusation. But you've seen a complete reversal in how the administration is now portraying the president's former personal attorney, Michael Cohen—by now they are attacking his credibility. This is a reversal on how they had originally portrayed him, which was someone that they thought they would be willing to work with.

2:52:57 At this point, though Kevin do you get the sense that the base is really concerned about this issue? They're not. No I think that's a great point. You look at the polls and the president's base is still very much in lockstep with him The question becomes from a political standpoint whether or not any of these outside noise will impact Bob Mueller's investigation, and we haven't seen proof that the outside noise so to speak or the congressional investigations will in fact influence him. He is operating on his own timetable. We don't know when we will get the final results or conclusion of his investigation. That said there have been several folks including President Donald Trump Jr., who have testified before the congressional committees. So there is that in terms of testimony but

2:53:43 The second point that I would make is that just from a mobilizing political force, how this—how this is going to mobilize folks to get to the polls. It's the complete unknown ahead of the midterm elections whether this will activate the Democratic base or the conservative base for obviously very different reasons Wow, okay. So they're so they're driving people to the polls Which of course is why all of this is so incredibly annoying because every story everywhere on the so-called news at the moment Is just about persuading people to vote for their party and not for the other party? So these guys think that with this dumb just dumb it's dumb This there's no legal problem is just completely stupid It makes no difference to anybody's life other than using up cycles

2:54:26 Combined with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is going to create a blue wave. Well, good luck! Moron... it's really moronic. How do you really feel? Oh I'm pissed in general but this stuff drives me nuts there's no news to even deconstruct anymore It's just the same blather over and over again sometimes it's funny because so hateful But it's a huge disservice and its making people sick including me Well, it's not making me sick. I'm hoping that this does change after the election It probably will my sure hope so no years with two years to the next to the general election As long as they put Nick pickles on the case. I'll be happy well We need some more guys with names like that All right everybody we return on Thursday

2:55:28 with hopefully something new to deconstruct, something of use to you. Until then coming to you from downtown New San Francisco Texas in the 5x9 common law condo it is FEMA region 6 on the governmental maps In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where i am overlooking a fog bank I'm John C Dvorak until Thursday Adios mofos! You have a cyanide pill for me? Yes, here it is. Donate to a no agenda They give us shows week after week Donate to a No Agenda It's the show that's really unique Donate to a No Agenda Listen to John and Adam speak Donate to a No Agenda Science is turning into a clique

2:56:33 This truth is universal! Fox News is a suck. The biggest mistake we made in this whole matter with Obama... What's wrong with you people? What's wrong with you?! Manning you don't have the stature to tell us what to do. You know, you're just a little preach over there. What is wrong with you? What's wrong with you? Your race has reloved and now they've been talking about an annual presidential election. The Cobra! You fooling! And now Mitt Romney against Obama?!

2:57:32 It's wrong with you people Manning, you don't have the stature to tell us what to do. You know, you're just a little preacher over there at a church over there in Harlem and we like it when you think your amusing when you talk about black people but when you start talking about white people your automatically wrong so I mean well up here you talk about black people I ain't got no honor. We love to hear you talk about how the American, all of that, all of that, all of that... How they are racist and we love that! Are racist and we love that but now when you talk about uh-huh You only give me credit when i talk about black folk But then I'm right And your right for giving me credit cause God knows when I speak about it im right But Im Right When I Talk About White Folk as well! And I'm-and I'm-

2:58:40 I done took that thing up. I done took it up! I'm doing it! Nobody's saying he was first black president, I done took that thing... I done took that thing up. I done took it up! I'm doing it! Nobody said it! And I'm right! and you're rising. I done tore that thing up, i done tore that thing up! Those kids are alone there in cages they are given peanut butter on tortillas they're given frozen sandwiches that still have ice in them That's the kind of environment you would want your kid to be in We don't need no immigration we don't need no border patrol

2:59:43 No peanut butter, enchilada. Oh leave the kids alone! Leave the kids alone!! All in all it's all for funding your wall. All in all its' all for funding a wall.

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