Proof Trump is Broke

00:00 Anti-science! With our toes touching the bottom of the rabbit hole and broadcasting live from the capital of The Drone Star State here in downtown Austin, Tejas. Capital of The Drone Star State as I said before hit the Cluedio in the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where... Hey summer's here it's foggy and cold! I'm John C. Dvorak Let's crack bot and buzzkill in the morning. Just to make sure I'm in the capital of the drone star state, just want to make sure that I've said that enough times. Yeah say it again. Nah forget about it but we are in the capital of the drone star state and in the morning to you my friend. In the morning to you, in the morning to everybody out there ships with sea boots on the ground. Yes indeed. And the subs in the water. Oh man well

01:02 Donnie don't know what you want to talk about and it's no idea. You have no idea what I want to talk about Well, let me guess okay if you may if you mix clam juice with tomato juice should get clumato Oh very close And there's a funny thing that observed this I don't know if it's still true because I think maybe is at least as of five or six years ago In the United States, when you buy Clamato juice and you look on the ingredients it is powdered clams. It's not really... there's no clam juice in it. It's just like a clam extract or something. In Canada, you get actual clam juice. Well, the Canadians they know their clams? Yeah

01:46 No, I was going to start with something else. In the Netherlands there is a heat wave across Europe really but the Netherlands is as you know...I grew up there so I speak the language and people are freaking out and now the Muslim clerics are going to do a mass prayer tomorrow Friday to pray for rain for the Netherlands and I figured we give them a little hand Well, we did get a request from a couple of... not just for the Netherlands but some other parts of the world and in the fires that we have in California to give the rain stick a shake. Okay so let's make sure that we know where were directing this. So one direction is The Netherlands it's very pinpoint very small country easy I apologize Belgium or Germany if we hit you with the rain

02:35 It's hard to target a small country like that then we need, California in worlds. We're gonna Die any other place with anybody needs some rain watch this wait party going And the third Okay I did one single, one flip. Okay, I did three flips and remember John and I are trained professionals in the art of range psychology please do not attempt this at home! And Austin beware you know in three days we'll get flooded out. Well yeah... It always happens so... Yeah well you're over flipping that's the reason Oh please how dare you critique my technique? Exactly So what else? I guess not much going on Nah, not a hell of a lot

03:35 We had the drinking game, the other day as Amazon glitched out. It's unbelievable! Have you seen a single report explaining what actually happened? Why would they bother? What is the point? This is this is the fear that you and I have spoken about it... You've written about it if Amazon were to really go down and it affected us too because I was trying to change something on the server we use Amazon Web Services for hosting the RSS feed and I couldn't get to it Yeah, somebody's heads are gonna roll. Yeah I felt bad for the dude named Ben because you can just imagine when you get that day and it was fun watching the Amazon stock price which is out of anyone's range really like $1800 a share

04:23 But in anticipation, because they were so smart. I think they thought they were smart by launching at 3 p.m Eastern to launch the Amazon Prime Day which would be right at the end of the market and just as planned this stock went up like 40 or 50 points and then all the glitches took place and it crashed after hours But they just no big deal. We say it was still made three billion dollars You know some shoppers experience some issues I don't man all I saw with dogs dogs dogs dogs Did you see this? No The dog on the Amazon site not just one They had the dot so instead of a 404 or server overload, or whatever The problem was they defaulted to a picture of

05:13 But there was a rotation of the dogs of Amazon, and they were cute dogs. No doubt! I guess it's the employees' dogs and they must have had...I must have seen 40 or 50 different ones to refresh them. Yeah So that I didn't know there was that there's anything more to it than just a picture of a dog No, no is the dogs of Amazon with glamour. They're making this sounds like AWS as a dog Anyway, but let's hope this Well, you know these playful kittens and I notice the CTO their Werner Werner Vogels he's a Dutch guy

05:52 I sent him a note like, hey man how's your day been? Everything rocking over there. Poor guy. Yeah then of course we had the big Helsinki summit which... Well of course that's the top of the news. Well there's a lot more and there's a lot more about the summit to be discussed but yes. I was throwing people under the bus! I don't know how to start on this report. You know, well the only thing...I have the same issue The only thing i could think of is maybe just a little bit of historical context about Russia and I would say starting with Reagan certainly Bush and definitely the Clintons you know when the Soviet Union collapsed

06:42 You know, everybody moved in and we started... Everybody. I think the US certainly was just stealing their shit We're taking their resources The oil, the gas you know huge companies were set up Everyone was taking advantage of Russia And Putin came... In their weakened condition. Yes, in their weakened condition now once Yeltsin came in and we also moved NATO toward them when they're well where they couldn't do much about it Oh yeah of course! We moved closer Yeltsin came in that he was the drunk It was Yeltsin who was the drunk wasn't? Yeah Yeltsin was the drunk He was not the only drunk but yes he was he was a major drunk I had a couple conversations with

07:23 with some of our Q level intelligence producers. I should also mention something else, Russians real Russians, Russians that would you like it? Like if they were up if there was an Oxford or Russia the normal High-level Russians. They always said or I was told that Yeltsin spoke like a county apparently Yeltsin's Russian was kind of like this if it could be translated into Russian Right, right Well and he was kind of put in and from what I understand That's when we actually helped Putin become

08:03 a higher level at the KGB, steaming him up getting him ready. I think he was definitely helped by our intelligence community Then once he came in, Putin came in and started cleaning up which of course created huge oligarchs. He's probably one himself But let's not forget Mark Rich and there was just a lot of Western British to be specific and American people building up tremendous wealth in Russia at their weakest moment Stolen yeah with it of course they were stolen so

08:42 You know, there's a historical context here of America messing with Russia that you have to take into account. But throughout that period we've always... Didn't Putin come to the ranch? To the Bush Ranch? I believe so yes! Oh horrors oh the horrors that he came to! It wasn't quite as bad what happened in Helsinki according to the media So I, you know and there's a lot to discuss about what went on there but just the obvious. Um...I think that uh.. I don't know if he was weak and-and just misspoke on purpose

09:23 He certainly buckled and clarified, very weak clarification. Well the clarification I think caused more trouble than it was worth but he did it. I agree maybe not but the guy is so transparent sometimes when we'll say well you know this is a double negative... So the way I see that is there was a meeting and they said hey will just change wood to wooden. He said that's a double negative! I would never do that You know, it's like these things pop out and you're like oh yeah I know what you're talking about. So he fucked up really badly! And I think he dented his reputation severely will he get past it? Absolutely Well where was... What did you perceive as the fuck-up

10:08 The fuck up was that he changed his story. That to me was the worst part if he had stuck to his story and said I don't really believe the Russians did it, that would be one thing but then to buckle and change a story i thought was incredibly weak Trump has been such a kind of a bonehead in a lot of ways, a bumbling guy that may be smarter than we think he is. I just don't see this being anything more than a hiccup. It's just another thing... That's different! I don't think it's a problem for him at all. Well let's listen to what my favorite bit on this came in late. This was Tucker Carlson who was there in Helsinki and he did an intro

11:01 Maya Culpa if you want to call it that and I just thought this was pretty funny because it brought back It brought back memories of, if you could find it while you're playing this, memories of Ron Paul discussing in a bit, you know like some weird setting how the CIA took over the government 1962 after Kennedy was assassinated. Good evening and welcome to Tucker Carlson tonight we just landed from Helsinki back in the nation's capital where it is hot and intense We're gonna have our full extended interview with the president from Helsinki And we're going to show that too in just a minute we asked him of course about Russia But there are believe it or not many more important and pressing issues on the world stage not just Russia And we asked the president about those as well. We'll bring the whole thing to you coming up in just a second

11:46 But first, tonight with remarkable speed and intensity the media the foreign policy establishment both political parties have come together as one to attack the president for his meeting yesterday with a Russian President Vladimir Putin. Anderson Cooper John McCain Mitt Romney they all described the president's remarks about Russia as disgraceful former CIA director John Brennan called those remarks treasonous and grounds for impeachment Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer announced that Trump was being blackmailed by a foreign power. Others accused him of being a sleeper agent, a spy! One member of Congress from Tennessee called for a military coup against the presidency Well as the rage storm swirled, the president bowed to the inevitable, genuflecting before US intelligence agencies whose judgment must never be questioned and recited the now obligatory oath of loyalty to the spy bureaucrats now in charge of our country

12:40 Yeah, let me play a little bit longer or about 1 minute 15 of some media reaction right after the Helsinki Q&A ended. Alright first deep breath This was a big day. You have been watching perhaps one of the most disgraceful performances by an American president that I've ever seen It was probably the low point of the presidency Wow, disgusting President Trump is not on America's team It was nothing short of treasonous Donald Trump betrayed America We have a president who is betraying us

13:16 He was like a scared child. The way he cowered Trump was pretty nervous, most people are nervous when meeting their boss He embraced him! He validated him while trashing his own country and gave the middle finger to America embarrassing the country The single most embarrassing performance that I've ever seen The United States was attacked and President Trump today sided with the enemy. It is disgraceful refusing to side with his own country, his own country! You should call this the surrender summit This is evidence of collusion What we saw yesterday was collusion And he's basically saying I'm with Vlad Why he did so? I can't really get into that...I'm not a doctor Trump was so impotent it's no wonder he leaves the Russian summit with one ball

14:00 gift although I think Putin still has a set of Trump's balls. It was time for Trump to put his foot down and he did right on America's dick sorry it's not funny thank you very much John Ester for putting that together for us, he did it to music too for end-of-show that's good yeah was a terrific summary yes and pretty close to the truth I have a couple of clips that I will play after you talk a little more but There was that little piece of with Rachel at the beginning and I don't want to do this so early in the show But since they've that was thrown it. Oh, I got to catch my breath That was part of a longer little exposition she had at the beginning every little spiel She talks forever to get to the point as she does but I got an ISO. That's quite interesting Okay, the Rachel ISO Yes

14:51 Yeah, I figured you might pull that one. Not that deep! Now here's what I think happened in Trumps mind and probably what was going on in general he is so wrapped up in himself about no collusion which the indictment certainly doesn't show any collusion and there probably was no collusion But he's so wrapped up in it that he's just thinking about him. I don't think he was thinking straight, and I also believe they had conversations that went on that we didn't really hear much about but let's go back to the initial assessment because what he said was in a later tweet, I trust my intelligence sources

15:30 The sanctions, and we have so many things to talk about. The sanctions were very detailed and I have some background on that as to you know this was a hack by the Russians is very clear from the indictment But the intelligence community all agreeing which was not true because it was CIA FBI NSA was reluctant said well It was high probability. None of it was all in it wasn't all intelligence agencies. It was a report presented by That's a lie. It does a day getting sick of it Yeah, me too and this started and the report came out in January 20 2017

16:07 And I have a copy of the report in the show notes, you know this not at all as specific on a technical level. There's a lot of you know probably this how it happened but here we was Director of National Intelligence Clapper in January 2017 talking about this report well The news guides have dropped into our laps yes as they always do the perfect nexus of national security and politics with the hack of DNC emails and the alleged participation of Russia. So my colleagues and I at CNN but also other outlets have been told by, you've seen in reports, a number of officials who pointed their finger

16:45 Without much hesitation at Russia the official in the White House described said to me. There's little doubt It's Russia I just wonder does the intelligence community share that? certainty well, I'll just say that Don't think we're quite ready yet to make a call on attribution I mean We all know they're just a few usual suspects out there so but as in terms of The process that we try to stick to, I don't think we're ready to make a public call on that yet. And is that because you haven't made the decision to publicly name in shame or because there's still some uncertainty? A little of both. Do you think that we and the media but also some officials who've been speaking with us in the media have gotten ahead

17:42 of the certainty on this? Yeah, I guess... yes. And frankly taken aback a bit by somewhat hyperventilation over this. You know, I'm shocked somebody did some hacking that's never happened before Yeah, and that was the attitude because that has always been the attitude where everyone is always hacking everybody else one way or the other. And before you go on... That was in 2017 yet the litany of complainers are all talking about how they all 17 agencies agreed in 2016! Never true it was never true It's a lie So

18:33 That is the report that Trump is actually disagreeing with, but it doesn't matter because you know It's the lie. Is there? It's done You and I are not gonna change it we can just keep mentioning it yeah We can mention in bitching but now to the technical part of what what the accusations are It was, it's so really unbelievable truly not to be believed that the FBI could go to this level of understanding which people had done what What they had done outside of the hack itself, you know Google searches all kinds of other things that they were doing presumably on their personal machines. You have a vague reference here I'm not sure what you're talking about? Oh well i'm leading into a clip

19:24 the premise. I'm not understanding the premise. OK, so the indictment from Mueller, the 12 man index, the twelve man indictment goes to an incredible technical detail about how these twelve Russians who work for GRU and by the way, I think that there's probably 500 Russians who work for GRU who are doing this. And let's not forget Hillary's techno experts and how we were messing around with Putin's election. This has gone on for a long time but like everything you know We humans are very bad at understanding where the real risk is. You know, if the real risk is it...is it the opioid crisis or is a traffic accident? Or is 100 thousand people who die in hospital you know this we're not good at that so this is now top of mind This is the most important thing let's please not discuss that what the John Podesta phishing which was also blamed on these 12 GRU agents

20:19 that actually uncovered corruption within the Democratic Party where they were screwing Bernie Sanders and you know... That was the DCC. Right, but that's also all in this intelligence report which went to such a deep level saying that the investigators who published this indictment knew even what the GRU agents were googling on their desktop machines. So I'm not sure how it's okay to, in an indictment say hey by the way we're at well the quote is up in your business because even renowned security expert Steve Gibson could not understand the level of this detail any

21:05 any linkages between what would appear to be otherwise separate events, any reuse of IPs of email accounts, of obscure domains and so forth that can be used if you have like encyclopedic knowledge of every packet that transited the internet during that time. You can figure all this out, but I don't know how you do this short of having that kind of visibility into internet traffic? To me, this suggests there is a level of surveillance

21:47 far in excess of what I at least have assumed was technically feasible. It's amazing, yeah! I agree and the only other explanation is we pretty much said hey, we know where in your systems We are watching you all the time Which I don't think is a very smart thing to do if that's how they got this information In fact it's a very dumb thing to do but they but as you're revealing. You know you're feeling methodology It's and I just think it's bullcrap well let's just remember that the

22:23 The FBI was sent away, they did not get access to the server. They were sent a appropriate image... Now the word appropriate is in there for reason an appropriate image of the server which may very well have been a virtual server I don't know but a snapshot which also includes You know, the stuff that was happening in memory etc. And they got this all from CrowdStrike and we have to remember the CrowdStrike run by Sean Henry who was the executive assistant director of the criminal cyber response and services branch at the FBI promoted by Robert Mueller

23:02 So you know it's I don't think it's correct, but Mueller. I guess when like hey whatever your report is It's good enough for me might want to point out the crowd strikes most recent series D financing for a hundred million dollars included Google capital yeah, so there's a lot of conflicts of interest or Some people might want to recuse themselves when it comes to working with an outside company But it's not even really stated as it was done by an outside company It's not stated, yeah well there is a security firm one or something like that. But there is a lot of cross-pollination there and then the FBI official overseeing the task force left on Friday! I didn't know that Yeah he walked out Well before you play any more I want to play an interim clip that draws attention

24:05 a problem that I'm always seeing here. And this is the, this is the local story just a piece of little bitty chunk called Local Analyst Aghast. Our political analyst Larry Gerson joins us this evening President Trump sided with Vladimir Putin what did we just see this morning in terms of watching this unfold? It means sided with black. Well, he didn't side side with anybody What does that mean? You seem sighed yeah this was this was used more frequently Sided he sited well He said I died what he said literally was I have no reason to think why Russia would do this

24:51 So, it continued to play. I just thought the word bothers me this morning in terms of watching this unfold with the world Well first of all it's hard you know what happened when you talk about their meeting why nobody was there except for two interpreters There were no note takers and now typically at a meeting like this You have note-takers so that when its out When it is done The reporters and others get what we call a readout We know nothing of what happened except for what we heard afterwards at the press conference. And what does that leave us with knowing what President Trump really said? Given his reputation, or his inability to sometimes tell the truth –or at least mend it–it's hard to know and we have to rely on that meeting." Okay so afterwards they held this news conference What surprised you most?

25:36 How about astonished? I was astonished. I was astonished because he threw his intelligence community under the bus. Astonished because at the time of his inauguration, 17 agency heads all relating to intelligence said Astonished because last Friday, Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats said the Russians were still interfering. It was red light blinking time as it was right before 9-11. Astonished also because last Friday, Director Mueller I should say Special Counsel Mueller announced the indictment of 12 Russians to go along with 19 other indictments The President says he needs to see evidence I don't know what other evidence he needs.

26:34 The red light is flashing as the director of national security Dan Coats now Is that a talking point you think or did your guy just just copy that one thing? It's like these guys There could be oh, you might be right there may be a talkie play But I'm gonna go back to that clip mine at the end. He says Trump wants to see more evidence and And he says, what more evidence does he need? And what he refers to is what more evidence does he need than the 12 indictments and 19 indictments and that. And the bold crap about everybody agreeing during his which is not true as you prove just with a clapper clip that was just a lie they just threw out there

27:14 What evidence does he have? Somebody being indicted is not evidence. No, well that's a happenstance That's lost in the in the shuffle listen to the rest of this clip of Blumenthal though flashing as The director of national security Dan Coats put it much as it was before 9-11 we are in a 911 national emergency because our Our country is under attack. Literally, that attack is ongoing and pervasive verified by objective and verifiable evidence those words are again from the director of national security And this 9-11 moment demands that we do come together Issue a subpoena not only for the translator and the notes but also for the national security team He wants to subpoena the translators What did they say?

28:05 I think that's, I'm sure they could do that. I'm sure they can subpoena the translator. What did he say? Oh my goodness, that would be fantastic. I think this is shameful that Blumenthal or anybody and then you might be right there's just possible talking points out there because it is that mug and I don't know if I put a picture of the mug in the... Yeah yeah you did! You did, well it was the 9-11 119 was the mug and here's a clip from Jill Wine Banks Now, she was a prosecutor in the Watergate scandal and she takes it to the next level. At some point this has a complexity that's even richer than the one you were involved in with the Watergate investigation in that nobody thought Richard Nixon was working on behalf of an enemy of the United States How do you even make sense of this?

28:58 You can't make sense of it. It's very hard to possibly analyze and you're quite correct the burglars were Americans they worked for the White House, they worked for the committee to re-elect a president They weren't foreign agents and yet we were burglarized this time by foreign agents And it's just as serious to me as the Cuban Missile Crisis in terms of an attack or the 9 11 attack The president is taking the side of the people who attacked us instead of trying to prevent a future attack. He has done nothing to make sure that the elections four months away are going to be safe and I would say that his performance today will live in infamy as much as the Pearl Harbor attack or Kristallnacht, and it's really a serious issue we need to deal with

29:52 There's no explanation for what could be motivating him, no matter what Russia has on him. That's right! Jews you're on deck! Kristallnacht! That is taking it a bit far but Richard Engel always surprises One of the things I do think that's been a problem and i don't know how to address it...I'm sort of with Bill, I'm a little bit gobsmacked and flummoxed at the same time We are under attack from Russia. If there were physical missiles, like during the Cuban Missile Crisis Americans would be in the streets and protesting and asking for the president to protect us These are invisible missiles these are digital missiles that are going into our system Digital? DIGITAL MISSILES?!

30:38 And it really is the education. But if they're Engel, of course being a CIA front man that means CIA still going after Trump they want to elect some... Sorry digital missile slipped yeah well there was some other noises luckily although you had to search quite far and wide and I now And Professor Stephen Cohen, who we like a lot. He was on couple of different shows but I found a clip of him with... what's his name? Mersheimer also a Russian scholar professor and they talk about exactly what is going on it's little longer clips about three-and-a-half minutes

31:24 But this was on Vice, Vice News on HBO. And what I like so much about how they set it up... Well you'll hear as they're going to introduce two American professors very well schooled in Russia its relationship to the United States its position in the world for decades these guys do know what they're talking about They have standing You know, they're either emeritus or you know they're real professors and here's how Vice positioned them and what they said. Despite the overwhelmingly negative reaction to today's summit, not everyone thinks the president's blame America first approach to Russia is wrong Michael Moynihan met with two American foreign policy experts old comrade Stephen Cohen and John Mearsheimer

32:09 Hold on a second. So she says that the whole thesis is, that Russia or that Trump is using his blame America first? What is he blaming America for? Blame America first and then two American professors prefaced as comrades. I missed that. —and thinks the president's blame-America first approach to Russia is wrong. Michael Moynihan met with two American foreign policy experts, old comrades Stephen Cohen and John Mearsheimer— That's… that's—I mean it's pretty obvious what you're trying to say there. Oh comrades clearly these professors have been coopted by Putin! —to hear their admittedly unpopular case for the rightness of Russia. I could go down a list of what people have called you, Steven.

32:54 Go ahead. It should be alright. Stooge of Putin? Mainly Putin apologists. Putin apologists, are they right? There's been a tsunami of these attacks on me Many and once distinguished publications. There is a market, an appetite for this defamation They're uninformed The question you want to ask yourself is why won't people engage in the legitimate debate with people like Steve and me? And I believe the reason they won't is they would lose the debate! I'm fully confident of that. And I'll summarize how I see it not sure John fully agrees At the moment as we talk

33:32 We are eyeball to eyeball in a new Cold War with Russia. Putin was one of the few leaders in the world who stood up to the Americans And the main manifestation of that was the Ukraine crisis. There's a big question here with regard to the Ukraine crisis, who is principally responsible for causing it? I think that the evidence is clear – that its the United States and its West European allies It was deeply rooted in Washington that if you take Ukraine, bring it into the West militarily, economically through the EU through NATO Russia would be nothing more than what Obama called a weak regional power.

34:18 But don't those countries have a right to decide whether or not they want to join NATO? No, they don't. They don't! That's a very foolish way of thinking about international relations How so?! I'm just talking about the people in those countries who say we want to join NATO We were under the boot heel for Russia too long and now we want to join this alliance It is slightly different than... You are assuming that people make foreign policy Any fool could have told you that by bringing in countries on Russia's borders with historical grievances against Russia, we're going to diminish everybody's national security. That is exactly right! Let us say the Soviet Union or China at some future point forms a military alliance with Mexico and Canada on our border? We would never tolerate this! Presumably you and I and John would demand that the American president react

35:03 Would he be aggressive? Aggressive, would that be aggression if he reacts? He would be defensive. We've demonized Putin and we putanized Russia so we demonize Russia Russophobia is running amok in this country I've seen these things from the inside I rethought and rethought how we got to the edge of war with Russia where we haven't been since Cuba 1962 And i have concluded it is 95% our own doing Speaking of percentages, would you see that percentage of war breaking out between the US and Russia as getting smaller with Donald Trump in office? Trump is wrong on a lot of things. But on the thing I care most about because it's existential because i think its life and death if he means what he said he was right

35:49 It would be great to cooperate with Russia. I would go farther, it's imperative." So how is he doing so far? Well we don't know yet We will have to see but the attack on him is ferocious President of the United States Is being kept from doing what we've demanded Of every president Keep us out of war with Russia We crippled Trump Now on the other hand Trump doesn't cripple easily He just presses on Rightly or wrongly So...I hope That he and Putin reach a series of agreements that will keep us safe. The tremendous hostility in the establishment to this meeting at Helsinki is largely driven by the fact that people want to undermine Trump, but furthermore they have to explain how he got elected in the first place it can't be because Hillary Clinton or the Democrats didn't run a good campaign It can't be because the American people are that foolish. It has to be because they were tricked

36:49 Opponents of Donald Trump are using Putin as kind of a patsy or fall guy to attack him. Yes, is a hammer to beat him over the head that these people would prefer Trying to impeach Trump to averting war with Russia if it's come to that Trumps no longer to blame we are ourselves And I think that's the last you're gonna hear on any type of reasonably mainstream media of these two guys They've written you know comrades the comrades and what the hell do they know really? But I do have some thoughts about what is really going on It's not like we haven't kind of touched on this over the course of the past many years and part of it came up in One of Putin statements which is under discussed, and that is this for instance. We can bring up the mr.. Mr.. Browder in this particular case

37:45 Business associates of Mr. Browder have earned over 1,5 billion dollars in Russia They never paid any taxes neither in Russia nor the United States and yet the money escaped the country they were transferred to the United States They sent huge amount of money 400 million as a contribution to the campaign of Hillary Clinton Well, that's their personal case. It might have been legal the contribution itself but the way the money was earned was illegal so we have a solid reason to believe that some intelligence officers accompanied and guided these transactions So we have an interest of questioning them

38:29 Now, this is not really discussed much because it goes to the Magnitsky Act which no one really understands nor wants to talk about unless you understand that Browder's Lawyer was Magnitsky who you know, there's this he was killed by Putin. This is a great detail Yeah But it's very hard for the mainstream to get into this because all of these uncomfortable names start to come up but this is part of the rape of Russia and Browder who became a British citizen because he didn't want to getting any trouble in the US No, it's because he didn't want to pay taxes. That's trouble in the US, my book. That's trouble in the US! But then what Putin says is you know I don't know but 400 million dollars went to Clinton's campaign and that's not going to come up anywhere in the M5M analysis luckily we have former CIA agent Kevin... What is his name?

39:31 Yes, Kevin ship who I'm sure will be deemed to be a crackpot and numbskull But he kind of touches on what was going on and it comes back to An age-old saying they use in the Netherlands. What she did was she formed basically the equivalent of an international super pack to funnel money through the Uranium One deal, I think it was $140-plus million dollars into the Clinton Foundation. She did that because these donations went to secret offshore bank accounts they are not bound by FOIA laws in the United States because it's foreign money These foreign donations into the Clinton Foundation through Uranium One are not bound by congressional subpoena so her secret server and this whole deal with the Clinton foundation essentially was set up

40:17 as basically foreign espionage to conceal all this, especially from Congress. I think there were two billion dollars that went into her presidential campaign over four years through Uranium One. Uranium One was a front company for her to launder money globally so it wouldn't be under US law. This was the Russian intelligence had targeted the Clintons for this operation. And the most bizarre thing about it, amongst many... is that Robert Mueller was in charge and running a counterintelligence investigation against Russia during the Uranium One deal. He knew that Russians were engaged in extortion, bribery, racketeering as you mentioned related to Uranium One he approved the Uranium One deal knowing that these millions of dollars going into

41:10 Clinton Foundation and he ignored the fact that the Russians had targeted and essentially co-opted Hillary Clinton, were funneling money into her campaign. And of course 500 thousand bucks for Bill Clinton to go over there and speak. Robert Mueller in charge FBI counterintelligence and that investigation ignored the whole thing brought no charges and just basically put it under the blankets and covered it up Now, that's just more of a backgrounder. The way I see it and this is why we've had this intense hatred and blaming everything on Russia since Hillary lost is everybody all these names were all complicit...I'm pretty sure that factions if not Putin himself were running Hillary Clinton

41:54 That makes nothing but sense. Why wouldn't he? And she had set up a front company to launder money for herself and for her campaign, and Mueller actually was intimately involved not just on the sign-off I believe he actually delivered uranium personally He delivered it that's pretty well documented And everyone was hunky-dory and things were going ahead as usually they do, certainly with the rape of Russia. You know, Russia's paying for everything this is all great we'll screw them later as Hillary has done in the past and she lost! That was unexpected and then everyone had to cover up but there was so much that couldn't be covered up They just flipped it! What you say about yourself, with your head through your hands... ...you accuse others that what you are guilty of. They were colluding with Russia

42:42 Nothing better than to just flip it on its head? Well, I kind of caught Trump off guard. The problem is there's such a weak aspect to it that it's kind of...I mean you can yell and scream about Trump in this Helsinki thing which would to me from the get- Before I have a clip I wanted to play but before I get there want to mention something I kinda stumbled on I stumbled on ABC's online, they have an online show that has got some radio guy with a really unbelievably nice voice. And he's got the big mic in his cans and he's there and they've got that camera on him. What it looks like he is doing is part of ABC News and I don't know how many people watch or can even find it but I found it

43:30 He brings on everybody that it looks like he's doing, uh... It's like a minor league thing. It looks like he's running our farm team. It looks like he's bringing on different congressmen and all these people to clear them for the evening news. Oh! To see if they have the right story? Yeah. Huh. And so he brings on these different guys and they had all usual suspects I guess to see what he's going to say, they bring on Rand Paul. And Rand Paul does a...I think gives a beautiful presentation makes nothing but sense and they cut him out of the picture it is mentioned once that there's some ways in other words anyone who said anything kind

44:14 normal about what they saw at this Trump-Helsinki thing, which is the way we saw it was a guy goes to meet the Russians. They didn't want him to do that. They didn't want him to meet Putin. They didn't want any of that to happen and no matter what he did or what he said they're gonna blast them for it and let...and this clip kind of comes out of one guy bitching in Mona then the guy transitions to Rand Paul It's a little longer than I like but I think you'll like it as the Rand Paul clip Oops! I'm sorry This is not the long form of Helsinki. No, the Rand Paul clip I don't have a oh the rand paul clip Sorry, yeah, the randall ran ball clip. I heard you first time was giving me joy He's his aim he's put russia back

45:00 Not just on the map, but at the top of the heap. He was in a very self-satisfied mood today ABC's Terry Moran traveling with the president in Helsinki. Oh you're right This is one of those a ABC News 1010 wins Terry, our thanks to you and we return our conversation to ABC News political analyst Steve Roberts for his thoughts on as Terry suggests what may have been a very comfortable atmosphere for Vladimir Putin today. Well, Terry made a very good point that this summit is the culmination of

45:37 of a long history here in the post-Soviet world, of Putin trying to restore Russia to its former glory. Its former position as one of the two great superpowers in the world and President Trump handed Putin two victories today. The first was just simply to be there, and the second was to talk about the two world superpowers this is exactly what Putin has wanted to hear for many years. Steve, Senator Rand Paul Republican of Kentucky joins us now. Senator thank you! You had said that you were glad President Trump was meeting with Putin that this kind of dialogue was good based on the outcome? Do you still feel that way?

46:21 Yeah, you know if you look back at our history we've had some very dire times with Russia. The Cuban Missile Crisis maybe being the height of that but during the Cuban Missile Crisis we had a direct line to Khrushchev and also at the time an ambassador in Russia and we carried on dialogue so I think it's incredibly important to have dialogue. And, I think the people who are criticizing having dialogue with Russia and are overstating that somehow this grants legitimacy to Putin or people who aren't really looking at this in a very realistic way. I think foreign policy realism looks at the world more as it is and looks at the world

46:58 in a way in which we try to minimize the risk of conflict. But did the president have to be so seemingly ingratiating, or at least on the same page when it came to the issue of meddling and interference? I think often when you meet with people in person that simply the civilities of meeting together in person and a show of rapport are greater than they are when we're discussing our differences. And so, I think we should continue to air our grievances, air our differences But to tell you the truth, I wouldn't always air them directly in a confrontational way in a meeting like this. And so I think there are other ways of bringing that forward. Some of the people who are very naive were saying well he should demand that they admit they meddled with our politics and they're never going to do it again

47:47 One, they're never going to admit they did it and we appear to have evidence that they did meddle in our campaign but they're never going to admit it. And the thing is if you look at things in their totality of this, you look at the history of meddling in elections All of the nations that can spy do spy on each other and all the nations that can meddle in elections, do meddle in other elections. Senator Paul we thank you very much and we continue our coverage from ABC News. Yeah, I think you're right. Cutting room! Floor! Well also...I think the only place that took Rand Paul- I didn't clip it because it was just unlistenable- was CNN with Brolf and that was just a shouting match between the two of them and again, I didn't clip it because it was too convoluted but he only made on there with his message obviously didn't make anywhere else And by the way The term meddling

48:42 I mean, when it comes to condemning someone for doing something meddling is not very strong. You know the definition which is in the show notes you are interfering other people's business that's not quite the same as hacking our election Which also, there's this you know they keep saying they got 500 thousand voter names and partial error. No the voting records which are public but I'll yeah you can get them from the website i also don't think they were successful in that all the reports i've seen is they tried one try the rest was probing ports and also not too much fun on social media

49:21 Yeah, way too much fun. Now the thing that we do have a report from PBS this is another one This is another one of these transition where they go from one topic to another but they bring this woman in on PBS to discuss You know, the Russians learned a lot apparently from this meddling and now they're going to up their game. So I'm wondering what does that even mean? So let's play this clip. This is clearly the Russian no-clip. Clearly the Russians know that the U.S. is on guard at this point. They were successful to a degree in 2016 This year they must be trying different things. What do you see that is different or better or more sophisticated from them now? Yeah, that's absolutely right one of the things that Dan Coats has said is we think they will be learning lessons and that they have learned lessons and we think that their adopting those as there looking at new ways to divide Americans

50:15 So some of the things that we've seen is them weighing in on things like the NFL protests, whether it was good or bad appropriate or not for NFL players to be taking a knee during the national anthem. We saw accounts on Twitter that have now been identified as ones that were created by the Internet Research Agency but were pretending to be Americans accounts that had tens of thousands of followers weighing in on both sides of that issue We've seen social media accounts that we now know were operated by the Internet Research Agency in St. Petersburg weighing in on issues like the Me Too movement, we've seen them weighing it on things like Roseanne Barr's racist comments so we see these kinds of activity basically trying to stoke tensions within America and you may... Wait a minute! Is Roseanne a Russian agent now?

51:04 No, but bringing in... coming in and arguing about whether she should have been fired or not is stoking tensions. Do these people ever look at a Rob Reiner tweet? He's a nice guy. So we see these kinds of activity basically trying to stoke tensions within America and you mentioned a minute ago Juliette Kayyem that you're still waiting for the federal government To do more to pull this together The White House is saying they are working on this the Department of Homeland Security says they're working on this so what more needs to be done from Washington and in the state

51:41 I think that's right. So, I think we need to view... Wait a minute! Did you edit that? Oh, I'm sorry. That was the mistake I made. There is more needs to be done from Washington and in the states. I think it's right so i think We need to view this as a threat to any other critical infrastructure. We do not need transportation security to the states and locals. We distribute money. We have actually oversight from the federal perspective And you act-and you have a focus from the federal government. Now that may be true from the agency side, Department of Homeland Security is clearly working with state and locals in this regard but until we begin from the White House and President's statements to understand that this battle to protect our systems has begun already as Dan Coats has said

52:29 You're not going to get the focus that you need to on the state and local level. All right, now... So wait a minute let's stop for a bit and consider this we're talking about $100,000 in lame advertising on Facebook and going onto Twitter as a fake personality which of course is what the tech experts would do And if you remember during one of the conflicts in Iraq or elsewhere, where this so-called lesbian who was some guy in London and an apartment. And he was posing as a beat up lesbian in some area of one of these conflict zones on Twitter and it became a scandal. I mean this is to say...and for listening to Blumenthal say this like 9 11, this is like Pearl Harbor and its involving tweets

53:18 And guys posing as all these people. Those are digital missiles, my friend! They pose as Americans on Twitter... Yeah It's like it is insane Who cares? Thank you. And I think that's the bottom line for this part of the analysis is it's really who gives a crap we know this happens, we know there's hacking, we know there's meddling It's what goes on... We hacked Angela Merkel's phone! Come on! In 2012 the CIA was eavesdropping on French elections This is not new and were just as culpable Fine

53:57 It's not, it just... We invented it. Hey! We're number one baby we came up with this shit. We are the guys who started that- we're the guys who got the whole scene going. Stop giving credit away. Give credit where credit is due Now, there were two very important things which are not discussed and that do make a difference will directly impact our lives collectively. And that is this little ditty. If I may throw in some 2 cents we talked to Mr President... In case it wasn't clear this is Putin's translator Including this subject as well We are aware of the stance of president Trump and I think that we As major

54:41 oil and gas power, and the United States is a major oil and gas power as well. We could work together on regulation of international markets because neither of us is actually interested in the plummeting of the prices. And consumers will suffer as well, and consumers in the United States will suffer as well, and shale gas production will suffer because beyond a certain price bracket it's no longer profitable to produce gas. But nor we are interested in driving prices up because it will drain juices, live juices from all other sectors of the economy from machine building etc so we do have space for cooperation here

55:27 Now, I thought this was very important because the price of oil determines everything in the economy and literally in your own pocket. You know what am I paying for to fill up my car? And I got an interesting note that goes along with this from one of our producers who wants to remain anonymous he's a dude named Ben slash coder at a data analytics company for the oil and gas industry And here's his note. I don't know much about the industry itself, but I can tell by how many people are willing slash wanting to talk to our sales guys because oil keeps flirting with $80 a barrel everybody has loosened up their purse strings This has been a blessing and a curse as people are finally in the mindset to go looking for new software To aid their growth of new venture teams But it's also time when people get starry-eyed with big ideas of what they could do with the perfect solution

56:15 I was going through the Trump-Putin summit when Putin came back with his response about oil and gas. He says, as much as Trump may be complaining on Twitter to OPEC that oil is too expensive and trying to get Germany to buy American liquid natural gas instead of Russian, the current prices are great for the industry it's in the sweet spot which is what Putin was saying not too low not too high After fracking was commonplace, American drilling companies figured out how to make money at $40 a barrel. It was painful but and there were massive layoffs software budgets of tens of millions were slashed and the industry found out exactly what was the minimum software purchase needed for new startup or mid-size upstream company

56:55 At $50 a barrel, companies were white-knuckled shuffling around the deck chairs to play at trying to be efficient. But...at 70+, the reins are just loose enough that VPs are spending a little bit of time dreaming on how to put together their ideal build out in terms of staffing, in terms of land software, and in terms of new methods they want to use to investigate If we go much higher, we're going hit the problem with no nose to grindstone and people letting perfect be the enemy of good So back to Trump and Putin neither of them want the price to go lower But they'd both be interested to see the price rise a little higher. Trump is holding out for $100 a barrel To get Aramco to go public, and I think they're both trying to make this happen that point being You're gonna see oil Go to $100 a barrel now the point being what's the point of him wanting to see Aramco? Go public why because it's great for Nasdaq

57:59 It would be great. We add all that to ours, I think we get to add that to our numbers. That's the way it works. Okay having Saudi... We talked about this on DHM plug this ram code deal. Oh good tell me about it. All I know is it's a big deal? Well it's the biggest deal yeah it will be the absolute you know which reminds me almost yeah It's the biggest deal ever. It will be the number one IPO ever put out, it's gonna be worth so much money it's ridiculous but they can't do it unless they can sweeten the deal and make it look like everyone is going to make out and so they have to get that price of oil up. It's actually high enough now I think the deals easily gonna clear

58:42 But that's not what I'm asking. The point or what I'm asking is, What's Trump's interest in this? Is he doing...is it because he's buddies with the Saudis? Or is because I mean, and what it did and he can't really control the price of oil one way or the other. I mean it might be wishful thinking that'd be nice to have it go way up there but It's just some something missing from this analysis of this guy of yours Oh, I don't understand why Trump wouldn't want to take that and put that in that feather in his cap And say I brought what how is that a feather in anybody's cap? Who's an American This doesn't benefit us

59:22 By having them list on our stock exchange as no benefit? Well, they should just be writing straight into the New York Stock Exchange. But no there's no benefit! They're on the stock exchange okay then we got to do it in their stock and so what?! Alright, alright... So then why is Trump making such a big deal about that IPO? He is?? Yeah!! Where??? When he was over in Saudi Arabia that's all that it was about We've discussed it prior. I don't remember discussing it for one thing about the IPO and two, I'd like to know why he is making such a big deal about it? Well look, I can see why it's a big deal for Putin to have at 100. Yeah well Putin needs high oil prices. He's fine at 80 by the way

1:00:12 Over 660 in fact. And maybe Putin wants to hold that back, maybe he doesn't, maybe he wants to keep it under a hundred and maybe that's part of the discussion I think it was just more important than a little throwaway that no one looked at Oh, I think it's important that they do some sort of... you know if they want to conspire together to keep the oil prices at something fixed so it's not fluctuating so much. So I think that's great. Well how about this? But I still don't see why Trump cares about the Rambo deal. Well but I'm shooting from the hip here. Maybe he doesn't want it to come to the stock exchange maybe wants to bankrupt them let them just run out of money! I don't know but I am pretty sure $100 is in play

1:00:55 Let's been in play before it doesn't can hold that the world market. Because the United States and I would blame this on, I don't know Soros who may want to keep the prices down. And whoever's promoting electric vehicles and high gasoline gas mileage and all these other things results in you can suck that much oil out of the system anymore at $100 people just did just a bulk added it has never been held right now well but maybe it'll tap it I don't know Did demand is down. Hey, I don't the alternative energy plays or we are working against it Okay, now I can't that have I do not have enough standing to argue this now. I did have a chat with Pachinic the other day ah okay? Yeah, I called him and said alright and after listening to his life story he

1:01:54 They said, you know what did you think? He's a talker man. I love the guy. Talk for hours with this guy. It's usually about all kinds of other stuff but... He said, yes I'm very worried. Very worried about something that was a throwaway line when the two of them were sitting down before they went in for their one-on-one meeting with the soon to be subpoenaed translators and this was the line Most importantly we have a lot of good things to talk about and things to talk about We have discussions on everything from trade to military to missiles to nuclear to China...we'll be talking a little bit about China Our mutual friend, President Xi.

1:02:50 And it is Pachenik's belief, and let's not argue because I can't counter-argue it that China's economy is actually very hollow and there's a huge problem in this shell of what they're presenting. I know that they continue to devalue against the dollar. The Horowitz even tweeted about that but this goes back to ZTE and well actually two parts. One is that Xi politically may be, according to Pchenik, politically may be in trouble in China you know first of all he's kind of taking on the... He's a victim of the Mao aggression. He's kind of taking that on. He said I'm gonna be president for life and China's a big country and if people you know things don't go well with the middle class which it seems they may be suffering

1:03:42 Or the new middle class may not get what they expect. You know, someone new could rise up and Pachenik's prediction was Xi will be out within the year but he feels there could be a domino effect that could be an economy could come crashing down And he believes that could be with something as small as ZTE. I'll just refresh your memory." U.S President Donald Trump said Tuesday, he's not happy with the China trade talks last week and there is no deal yet on what to do with trolled tech firm ZTE The Commerce Department slapped the company with a sales ban in April after ZTE pled guilty to shipping American-made technology to Iran

1:04:24 However, Beijing has been pushing the U.S to roll back its punishment as part of negotiations to avert a trade war between the two countries On Tuesday Trump floated fines on ZTE instead and a shakeup at the top So what I envision is a very large fine of more than $1 billion dollars could be 1.3 billion I envision a new management, a new board. A Bloomberg report on Wednesday said ZTE estimates $3 billion worth of losses from sanctions The company buys an estimated 25 to 30 percent of its components from US firms and the ban in April effectively crippled its operations

1:05:02 But Trump said the current penalty has also hurt the U.S firms that do business with ZTE They can pay a big price without necessarily damaging all of these American companies Trump's proposal triggered immediate resistance in Congress Lawmakers across party lines accused the president of letting ZTE off the hook and bending to pressure from Beijing. The reaction could complicate Trump's efforts to win concessions, to narrow a trade gap with China of more than $300 billion dollars." So if you believe people like Adam Schiff the reason Trump wanted this exception for ZTE the second largest technology company

1:05:39 was in order to build Trump Tower in Beijing or is for Ivanka's patents on her or trademarks on their brand to be approved. It all emoluments, Emoluments Clause, Emoluments Clause I think, and this is coming from Pachanik and I think it's arguable that Xi said look I can't have 77 thousand jobs just disappear overnight. It's going to trigger something and it just may be bad. Now Trump and Xi have been buddies you know? Xi came all the way to Mar-a-Lago! I think the guy has been groveling and I have a feeling that the assertion that Trump and Putin together are trying to figure out what they can do

1:06:19 to not have China collapse because that would be bad for everybody. Forget, in the US we'll be okay but it turns out they just can't really sustain their growth without stealing our technology They need our technology and that's now being cut off through sanctions people can't do business with them anymore and they're in trouble like holy crap! We can't build the next thing And oh by the way if you cut us of at knees right here with ZTE things may go horribly wrong And I think that it's worth considering this theory. Yeah, I think it is worth considering as a funny idea what we do know and again Horace and I discussed this

1:07:02 I don't so much as he does. These phony baloney numbers that the Chinese keep coming up with to justify whatever it is they're up to, including building ghost cities you know? To balance the books and these other things which is really kind of wild what's going on in China but unless the whole economic structure of China and there is some possibility of this, is alien to everything we've known for hundreds and hundreds of years about how economies work. Unless that's something from the aliens that established over there in China they can't sustain this bull crap the way you're doing it. It just doesn't make any sense by the way Westerners look at economies anyway

1:07:58 I don't know. Maybe just to think it collapsed at the drop of a hat, anything... We've seen stuff like that happen in markets where you know the housing market in 2007-2008 nobody was expecting it to collapse away and didn't take the whole world's economy with it. No! And add to that I didn't know that Foxconn was a Taiwanese company? I always thought it was Chinese Yeah And it's owned by a Malaysian Chinese guy. So they've just opened up a huge plant in where is it like Ohio or something? North Dakota, yeah. Something like that $10 billion plan. That could be a hedge to make sure we get our iPhones. Oh that's nice one I mean oh good observation that could be a hedge It may have Trump so on takes credit for but it's possible that this was in the works which makes more sense you can't do these things overnight right who's into works as a hedge because

1:08:50 Most of the Taiwanese, big Taiwanese tech companies rely on China. They've all moved to China. Acer everybody that was always building in Taiwan they don't do that anymore. Taiwan's become kind of a banking center or a place where you have your head office and every but all their facilities are now in China right? And they rely on China and I can see them getting a little freaky because the Chinese I think it's Wisconsin is where the Foxconn, Wisconsin. It's one of the northern states. Okay you're right i think yeah uh... it's possible that's actually a good possibility but if by the way and I'm gonna bring this up not use the same analysis as you just did This is off topic we'll get right back to the topic I think Amazon is going to leave Seattle

1:09:44 Why wouldn't they? I meant to say why would, i'm sorry. I messed up my double negative Well they're certainly looking for headquarters They're looking for the so-called second headquarters? That's a ruse! You don't have a second headquarters There is only A Headquarters Good point. The second headquarters is a ruse, they're looking to leave Seattle and the only reason I may write about this i might not but just for people who are interested in the thought is that they have a socialist, damn near communist city council led by this one Indian woman from India or she's an Indian descent to the American but she's a Bernie Sanders socialist. They wanna put a head tax on Amazon, they wanna do all these things and rape them if they can. And then as I'm reading this,

1:10:43 Can you imagine what the, just to the Seattle metro area, what contribution in financial terms Amazon makes to that area? What it brings to that area. I have no idea, I'm sure its huge! 38 billion dollars a year Well that rivals the grunge movement This is from Was this the South China Post I think? Under its made in China 2025 program Beijing envisages becoming a global leader in artificial intelligence, robotics and telecommunications including a plan to build out the world's largest 5G network. But the block on ZTE is a wake-up call as it exposes the Achilles heel of the country's high tech industry It's lingering reliance on key foreign technologies stealing

1:11:33 This is why the US action has triggered such a widespread patriotic reaction in China, underscoring the growth tension between the world's two biggest economies. And then we have... this is Bloomberg? I think this is Bloomberg let me see... Forbes for what it's worth. Analysis ZTE collapse reveals China's huge dependence on U.S technologies." I think that this is troubling And it's really gotten to a very bad point. All this stuff has to be years ahead of time, but without the technologies and without the secrets... Without stealing the secrets which is.. The main thing and this again comes from Steve Pachanik Is that the code that ZTE stole or took Or I guess they stole it then they packaged it and sold it off Was apparently from the geospatial guys

1:12:29 And they looked at what was stolen, this would be recently and they said let him have it. It's fine and that's when Trump said okay let's not put these guys out of business but they can keep that but you know this may be his leverage if true And I just... But not a single question from the media about that. No, of course not. About that? What did you discuss about President Xi? Well first of all why would you ask a question like that then it might put him in a good light and not get you to vote Democrat! Yes anyway- I put in the newsletter I've been meaning to put it in there I said the only thing going on with mainstream media right now is

1:13:17 propaganda to get you to vote Democrat. And it's across the board, and I noticed this by the way... One of the things that just happened recently is apparently The New Yorker magazine—this is doom for them by the way—is gonna unionize. Yeah that's always good for business And so they're gonna unionize, well unions are effective in a manufacturing environment. I'm a member of unions, I'm not against them but i know what happens with an outfit like that. Well situations like that it doesn't make a lot of sense this thing's been in business for 100 years and it doesn't need a union. And the unions by the way are all democratic and that's why there's you know been that couple right to work laws passed certain states because people are sick at their Union spending all their money on the Democrat Party

1:14:05 And that's why it is a reasonable thing to sue over. But because there are some people in unions that are not Democrats, but generally speaking this is a Democratic thing and this is all we're seeing and it's getting on my nerves especially this this all this anti-Trump stuff that went on after this I thought was an innocuous meeting in Helsinki. Yeah, it was kind of... It was not a big deal And I don't think it would have mattered what had happened. It would have come back as, you know he sided with Putin no matter what he said. I'm sure we would've had a... You know people are ant-fucking over language now so they'll find something, no problem and i do want to mention if you want more insight into what we were talking about when John says over there with Horowitz that's dhunpluggedvorakhorowitzunplugged at dhunplugged dot com and then finally from Planet Money

1:14:52 China always knew that Trump would win. There is a joke they tell in China about President Donald Trump's upset victory in 2016, and we learned about it from our intern Echo Wang she is from China Hi Echo! Hi And the joke is about a province in China where they make flags so echo tell us what is this joke? Yes, it's a province called Zhejiang and people there they thought that they were the first in the world to know that Trump was gonna win because they got way more flag orders from Trump campaign than from Clinton's campaign. Oh so they were making flags for political rallies and they got so many more orders for Trump flags then Hillary flags They knew he was going to win Yep

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1:47:29 And those are real credits. You can use them anywhere credits are accepted We'll be thanking more people in our second donation segment and we have another show coming up on Sunday remember us at Dvorak dot org slash N A So go ahead, take your knowledge and propagate the formula Our formula is this We go out, we hit people in the mouth Order What? Shut Up Yay. Couple of things I've got just to clean up the last segment, on some obscure broadcast or radio I believe Louis Gohmert was spilling his guts about the Lisa Page closed session apparently she dropped the dime she said for one thing that whatever that was written it wasn't up for interpretation it was meant

1:48:35 So in other words, whatever was said. Yeah that it wasn't literal It wasn't just lovebirds Well no but we're talking about the stuff about you know stop the president was literal it was not oh that means to public We yeah yeah The Royal We yep exactly Interesting But she also had some very unusual things to say that Gormert was more than happy to give us and I thought it was interesting Let me just get this for you, but let me say this and it goes with what the president's getting mocked for in Russia I brought this out and the mainstream media will not touch it to me Fox is the mainstream media But that is we know there is no question. The intelligence community inspector general sent Chuck

1:49:25 which is Chuck McCulloch, sent his investigator Frank Rucker who told Dean Chappell and Peter Strzok that despite what some of the media was saying a major foreign power had gotten every one of over 30 thousand Hillary Clinton emails through her own server. Everything that came in except for four and Peter Strzok did nothing about it. And apparently he didn't tell Lisa what he had learned from the Intel community IG, but they sat on that and the president knows that this foreign entity not Russia had everything you talk about playing in the election right? It wasn't just Russia there were other

1:50:09 major players and Strzok did nothing. Lisa apparently didn't know but... You're saying another country involved, Congressional Republican. I want to get to Lisa Page. She's a Democrat she doesn't like Trump but she was different in what way was she different and more forthcoming? What can you tell us you learned Well, she's a more contrite person. But make no mistake just like you said Brian she was a Democrat and wanted Hillary to win and did not want Trump to win that has been obvious there were times the FBI lawyers would be reaching for the button to mute her comment and she would answer before they could mute her comment Is she contradicting Peter Strzok in any way?

1:50:57 Not so much, but she has given us more insights to who was involved and what. And of course when I hear Brennan or Clapper either say the kind of things they've been saying recently then it tells me wow we must be getting close to them those guilty dogs are barking pretty loud. Those guilty dogs are barking! Is she gonna do a public hearing? I don't think so. How does that work? You don't have to do a public hearing, it's just the show hearing. Well we want to show! Nobody wants to show if she is going to be saying weird stuff like she is saying. Right right maybe she isn't insane enough She can't stick to the script like Shruck

1:51:48 Now, so he's implying that China has the 33000 missing emails. That's the thing that this guy because his network pushes over I've heard this. Also just as an aside makes sense there is no reporting on the GOP hack that the Russians did if you want to just call someone out for doing it There were emails and documents stolen And there was a Donald Trump file that Wikileaks published It didn't get any traction But, you know there was a lot of exfiltration of data from the GOP servers. That's not mentioned anywhere

1:52:27 You'd think it would only strengthen the case. You'd think, now I have this last series of clips are short from PBS and this is again on the same thing... Let me just say there was both and others was in the IG report and there were also other servers mentioned. They might even said Republican but no detail No course not Okay sorry continue This is Judy Woodruff and that new black woman who's supposed to be the... I hate to say she's a token, but I think ever since Eiffel died they had to find somebody. She's not very good. She can't enunciate. She's not that presentable. She's talented. Yeah we heard her first tryout which was very lame. Yeah she still not handling the job but you know she's a black woman who hates Trump so You're in! You're hired

1:53:19 You can see it. So I'm gonna play this short clip of... Is she lesbian by any chance? Because that would really help your chances of getting the gig You can't really tell at least I can't maybe you can This is Judy and her friend part one here She also said that the United States and the Trump administration takes election interference very seriously And they're looking into this then That said, the president didn't back up. He didn't backtrack from when he said both parties have issues with the way Russia intervened in the elections. He's not taking that back And finally, just quickly how are Republicans handling this? I know some of them are giving the president still the benefit of the doubt. Yeah it ends there. Well i stopped it there because they're giving him the benefit of the doubt what doubt what benefit... What is..what did he say..? What are they talking about?! They're giving the president that benefit of the doubt! What doubt!? I don't know what doubt?? I don't know!! That's why I stopped it there.

1:54:24 Well, she says to give them the benefit of the doubt. Call Judy All right, let's go on to... Okay now we go to part. Before you play Part 2 I want you to pay play Part 3 which is gonna Which is the kicker to Part 2 but I just want you to have it in your mind Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee raising money Yamiche Alcindor the story continues Thank You. Thanks Raising money they're raising money They're using their leveraging Trump to raise money Let's see the way Misha I thinks her name Misha or something like that Let's listen to part two of this and... Tell me what is wrong with this whole whatever she has to say. Others have come out in a way they've never come out before and questioned and even criticized him Well there are some Republicans like Senator Rand Paul and Congressman Collins who are coming out saying that the president, that they agree with the president That they have issue with them with the mother probe That they question whether or not Russia interfered in the way that intelligence community says they did And then you have people like Newt Gingrich who said he was happy at the president came out and clarified himself

1:55:29 And then you have Senator Lindsey Graham and you have Senator Richard Burr of North Carolina both saying that the president needs to be way more forceful on this. They're both Republicans, and Republicans have not pushed back on this president very much but these two people and other Republicans are saying the president needs to get this right and he needs to get this-and he needs to be more clear about this. The other thing that's happening Democrats are using this to fundraise. The DCCC just today said that they raised, they raised just in June $15.2 million dollars James Comey is also coming out urging people to vote for Democrats of course that's a former FBI director who President Trump fired so Democrats are seeing this as a way to win in the midterms yeah they probably have meetings at Rob Reiner's house

1:56:12 Now, what was wrong with what she... What was the real mistake in there that she made? You can't remember it. No I don't remember She says that Democrats are using this incident to raise money In other words all this Trump bashing Yeah just the media incident This current situation is what's she implying And then she cites evidence of this assertion by saying that they've raised $15.2 million in June, wasn't June before this incident? By like a month? Yeah huh

1:56:52 So they're you the Democrats are using this just last year. They made 10 I mean, it's like you're right Are you trying to Buffalo me with this kind of thing? Is that a did that your proof of concept at last month which has nothing to do with the Russian incident They raised a bunch of money I thought it was very poorly done very poor reporting and in fact that the editors At the NewsHour can't catch stuff like that is beyond me Oh who knows it's the summer maybe it's the interns running the show But I'm going to give everyone on the Democratic side a gift. I'm gonna help you all out Donald Trump is broke and i can prove it with a clip he's broke, he has no money It's on the list! Yes and I am surprised this is a un-aired interview from 1980 so now we're talking shoot man... Is that now 38 years ago?

1:57:47 Yeah, it is 38 years ago. Rona Barrett remember her? Yes Rona Barrett who unfortunately had muscular dystrophy yeah and she was... Ruined her career She's pretty good! She was very good and she clearly liked Donald Trump back in the day I'm sure she would have hated him today you know just how it goes you know And this says a little snippet from the end of the interview that proves Donald Trump is broke For some people the ultimate goal in life has been becoming the President of the United States. Would you like to be the President of the United States? I really don't believe that would, but i would like to see somebody as president who could do the job and they're very capable people in this country most people who are capable not running for office most men are frightened politics today it is a shame isn't yes it is a shame the most capable people on not

1:58:40 necessarily running for political office and that is a very sad commentary on the country. They had major corporations and they had this and that but they are not running for political office Why wouldn't someone like yourself run for political office? You have all the money you possibly need, you've accomplished a great deal even though you're only 34 I know there's a lot of things that you possibly can do in the years ahead. Why wouldn't you dedicate yourself to public service? Because, I think it is very mean life...I would love and I would dedicate my life for this country but i see this being a mean life and also see that somebody with strong views and somebody with the kind of use that are maybe a little bit unpopular which may be right but maybe unpopular wouldn't necessarily have a chance at getting elected against somebody with no great brain but big smile

1:59:28 And that's a sad commentary for the political process. Television in a strange way has ruined that process, hasn't it? It's hurt the process very much I mean the Abraham Lincolns of the world... Abraham Lincoln would probably not be electable today because of television he was not a handsome man and did not smile at all He would not be considered to be a prime candidate for the presidency and that is shame isn't it But if all men are like you Then when are we going to get somebody who might be good? I don't know. I hope it's around the corner, but i don't know. What I would like to be involved in is Trying to help choose somebody or working with a group of people whereby they put up a candidate who would be acceptable to? Be a presidential you know to be the president The country if we had the one man, and it's really not that big situation You know people say well What could anybody do as President the one man could turn this country around the one proper president could turn this country around I firmly believe that

2:00:28 If you lost your fortune today, what would you do tomorrow? Maybe I'd run for president. I don't know... I would be using that at the top of the news! I'm gonna give you a clip of the day for that because it was pretty funny. It was a long Shaggy Dog story but... It wasn't Shaggy Dog yeah for sure. It's rare to get a clip of the day from Shaggy Dog. Gray area gray area he slips through on a technicality Oh man. Meanwhile, stuff heating up over in Euroland where Margarita Verstager showed up on the podium with a very colorful outfit just I mean vibrant colors she is looking like Brigitte Nielsen reincarnated and here's what you know... You know I clipped it because i don't have it for the show but was going to use it at future shows

2:01:29 But I clipped the entire nine, it would be between seven and a half and nine minute bit they did on the PBS News Hour interviewing her. Oh! Groovy! Over the Google thing Yeah shall i play the google thing? Yeah I don't have anything but I do have some thoughts on it The problem is that I didn't have time to... There's stuff that she says in this interview It's just kind of amusing. Yeah, and I want people to take note that we do a lot of that You know the stuff you put aside you put it in the bin it comes back John you're particularly good at it You got that one Rona Barrett thing from the 80s? I've been keeping it on VHS since the 80s just for today

2:02:10 Yeah, that's the kind of work that goes into this show. Here is the... and I'm glad you got that interview because i am very curious she seems like a very interesting woman she says interesting things here's the report from Euronews The EU has slapped a record 4.34 billion euro fine on Google in an antitrust decision for using the dominance of its Android operating system to favor it own search engine The EU competitions are rejected criticism but the fine was too high Using our standard methods The fine is simply bigger because the effect of the infringement is big and it's exactly a reflection on that. It's a very serious infringement

2:02:48 It's a very serious illegal behavior. The Commission's decision to penalize the American tech giant comes at a time when EU-US trade relations are at a low. President Trump recently accused Commissioner Vestager of being a tax lady who really hates the USA. She hit back it claims there was any political motivation I do work with tax and i am a woman so this is 100% correct. I very much like the US, but this has nothing to do with how I feel Nothing whatsoever Just as well as enforcing competition law Well we do it in the world but we don't do it in political context

2:03:30 Google has 90 days to respond or face additional charges of up to 5% of its average daily worldwide revenue. But the company plans to appeal the decision. We are concerned that today's decision will upset the careful balance of Android ecosystem, we believe we have a strong case for the benefits that Android has brought in European marketplace as well globally And this is why we intend to appeal. The EU says Google has stifled competition among search engines by forcing smartphone makers to pre-install Google Apps Chrome and Search. Consumer groups say that getting Google to stop doing this will help stimulate a greater variety of search engine products. We can expect more diversity, so every time you find Android phones, we can expect to

2:04:16 different search engines and browsers. For example, now there are other competitors like DuckDuckGo or Quant that currently find it very difficult to enter the market because of this specific practices that Google is deploying through Android to have always a Google search as default. The EU's unprecedented fine and the threat that it could even be increased, is being seen as a signal that they are ready to stand up to tech firms at a time of increased public concern about their dominance Man this is such a deja vu for me with Microsoft and Internet Explorer It's just...it's the same case Yeah! It's exactly what Microsoft did and they're not gonna let Google do it

2:04:58 I think Microsoft's behind this, by the way. It wouldn't surprise me! She makes some comments that are just like so baffling. It makes me think she doesn't know what she's talking about, somebody is telling her what to say. I don't think there is any idea of what she's talking about. And it really got me because I'm not a defender if the American company has been gouged by the EU but when the PBS News... Of all people, the PBS News hour liberal operation over time since Gwen left says at the opening of the piece, we tried to get a hold of someone from Google and the press office wouldn't send anyone or talk to us. And they sent it to videotape which is the same tape that they played in that report of their head of Google guy with an Indian accent talking about competition

2:05:48 I think it's about time they started going after Google. I'm not gonna defend them anymore, you cannot...they have no press representation They have a thing called Press at google dot com You can write to them and maybe get an answer back rarely It keeps cropping up in news reports. They're either going to play ball or they're not and apparently they don't let the media hang out to dry? No, no you guys are gonna get yourself into nothing but more and more trouble because no one's gonna come to your defense. And nor should they I'm sick of those guys Yeah, that's the problem. They're just developing a... they got a bad attitude and uh... Not customer friendly. ...they're not good corporate citizens. They won't even bring... they won't even send somebody to answer questions to The News Hour? Yeah. PBS News Hour are you kidding me?! They think they... this shit don't stink!

2:06:44 Exactly. Speaking of which, I have a poop report and then you have a poop report so i'll start with my poop report. In San Francisco the new mayor London Breed walked the streets today the same street she's vowed to clean up now at one point she and her staff walked right by a man who appears to be prepping a needle he You see it right there. Mayor Breed, who grew up in the city as well plans to clean up San Francisco in part by opening the nation's first supervised injection site that's where people can shoot up their own drugs indoors under supervision instead of on the streets. You're a native of San Francisco is this the worst you've seen? I will say that there are more feces

2:07:33 on the sidewalks than I've ever seen, you know growing up here that was something that did not wasn't the norm. Than you've ever seen? That i've ever seen for sure and that is a huge problem and we're not just talking about from dogs were talking about from humans How can a city with some of the most expensive rent prices in the world also have neighborhoods they are being compared to actual slums because of the amount of human feces trash and needles everywhere There are a lot of people who have been pushed out of some of these places where you now have people paying these prices. About 70% of the people who were estimated to be homeless now in San Francisco were actually housed in San Francisco before they became homeless We have to make sure that people who live here, sadly, people who are homeless here That they're also held accountable for taking care of our streets This is our home What do you mean by that? Like for example

2:08:26 I met with service providers in District 5 and the Haight-Ashbury community. And one of the things that I said to them is, you work with many of these individuals. I work hard to make sure that your programs are funded for the purposes of trying to get these individuals help And what I am asking you to do is work with your clients and ask them to at least have respect for the community. At least clean up after themselves, and show respect to one another and people in the neighborhood." Are you talking about harsher penalties? I didn't express anything about a penalty. I just solicited their help in trying to talk to their clients who unfortunately were mostly responsible for the conditions of the streets

2:09:12 And I love the term clients once again. Yes, they're clients. Apparently you are in a lockstep agreement with Rush Limbaugh! Oh hold on a second...I'm in agreement with him? So here we don't do these sorts of clips on this show because they're just competitive show But I was listening to Limbaugh's show after the Helsinki thing to see what his take on the whole thing was and what he was going to come up with. And didn't think that much of it, but in the process I kept...I had the recorder going and I caught him and I had to cut a lot. I didn't realize how long when...I mean he puts huge...He loves silence! He has long pauses that you have to cut out. It takes forever.

2:09:58 Just like Rachel Maddow, it takes him forever to get to a point. He's no Zephyr! Sorry? No Zephyr. So he did this read of a newspaper article discussing the same thing but he has his little slant... sarcastic slant, I thought it was at least worth listening to him discuss the same thing you just had discussed from the KT. I think it was channel 5 that you got that from or 7 one of the three. There's nothing in this story that makes you think anything about this

2:10:34 is the slightest bit strange. Mayor London Breed discusses her plan to clean up San Francisco in her first one-on-one interview since taking office." Yes, she's just been elected. London Breed I work hard to make sure your programs are funded for the purposes of trying to get these people help. And what i'm asking you to do is work with your clients and ask them to at least have respect for the community." Is he going off on the clients thing? I hope so. He's talking about, the clients are the homeless and drug addicts and people defecating in the streets! Oh great, I can get a gig! She's talking to social services groups

2:11:18 and she's asking to work with your clients, i.e., the homeowner! Work with your clients Please tell them to at least clean up after themselves and show respect for one another and people in the neighborhood This is the mayor talking to social services You need to have meetings with your clients And you need to tell them To start cleaning up after themselves and show respect for one another Mayor, don't you get that's what they've... these people have lost all self-respect. I mean this is... Anyway it continues when pressed about whether her plan calls for harsher penalties against those who litter or defecate on city streets that that's written as though it happens everywhere oh yeah people are littering everywhere and they're crapping on the streets everywhere

2:12:11 And when pressed about whether her plan calls for harsher penalties, the mayor said she didn't express anything about that. Instead she's encouraged non-profits to talk to their clients who were mostly responsible for the conditions of our streets Homeless are now clients of non-profits. And then she said, I will say there is more feces on the sidewalks than i've ever seen growing up here That's a huge problem and we're not just talking about from dogs We're talking about from humans

2:12:47 Well, I'm glad that uh...I can be equated with Rush Limbaugh then. That's not so- I was highly amused by that. Not so sure how i feel about that but Yeah don't blame you. But I've been on the client this seems like he just discovered this term clients and I've been on it for months saying this is- Yes you have but your ahead of the curve on it im not gonna say that you weren't Just still picking hits but all I know is This is a job for one man! Detective Dookie! Detective Dookie! Poop police SPU special boobers unit And where are our jingle guys man? I mean this is such an obvious one yeah, you got your lyric hat on. I don't know put it on put your lyric hat on okay Got it on I love my poo oh there you go in San Francisco Come on guys It's an easy one now

2:13:44 We have to remember when we started covering this, we were one of the first shows that started covering the poop. It was the plastic bags! And it was the poop map...it was the plastic bags a part of it and another contributor when it really began was when Twitter located on Market Street, right in the center of Poop Central. Got sick of all these bums around and they said you've got to get rid of these porta-potties that were all over the place and that's part of San Francisco so they have to go figuring if the porta-potties went then the homeless that were plaguing the office area around Twitter would go too. Yeah, yeah. Then all of sudden it was a problem They just started pooping on the street Thank You Twitter!

2:14:31 Yeah, and thank you to the elimination of plastic bags. I think that was really the tipping point where we saw that the homeless...I'm sorry, the clients –we'll just call them clients from now on–that the clients…the street clients had no more bags to poop in so that didn't help and really—and I've been willing to bring this up and I see you have a clip so it's good It seems to me the biggest virtue signaling social justice warrior bullcrap we have ever seen has been taking place right in front of our eyes for the past two months.

2:15:10 this insane banning based upon one sea turtle with a straw up his nose. Exactly, he was a cook by the way. We're banning straws and it's you know it's every company now has to come out and say oh yeah we're not gonna use straws either! You know Starbucks they making a sippy cup which is more plastic than the straw ever was but I guess it's The horrible shape of the straw that is shoving straws into sea turtles' noses everywhere. And it's a part of the huge plastic flotilla on the ocean, that no one can ever seem to get a real photo of... That actually is... Right! That phony baloney island out in the middle of the Pacific. Yeah, there- It's probably more fishing gear than anything But what IS this insanity? I tried to find out if there was someone behind it

2:16:02 Now, is it the straw of the paper straw industry? It seems to me that based upon... I think the paper straw industry could do worse than do this. This would be a great marketing video. A marketing genius! Well, I don't know who did it but it started with the sea turtle video and we are losing straws thanks to one viral video Whether that was intentionally launched or not. It's a fantastic campaign can I play your clip here? I have no idea what it is well, I have to set it up okay There's an element in this clip which is what got me to clip it That is another one of these things where somebody says something that doesn't make any sense like The woman that was on PBS is saying oh there the Democrats are making hay from this then she cites something that before it happened and

2:16:55 You can play it. Advocates for the disabled say there should be some exceptions to the ban. We're really much about protecting the environment, but there are a lot of people with disabilities that rely on those straws He says for people who don't have the full use of their hands those flexible plastic straws are the only ones that really work. Screw you! Restaurants and bars need to be educated about that and keep a supply available for those customers who truly need them

2:17:41 Several businesses we spoke with say they're also in favor of cutting back on the use of plastic straws. They also say the increased cost will likely be passed on to customers." It's like a defibrillator now! Oh, you gotta have some straws...some backup straws! Hey I got an idea. I betcha' we can do this. I want to launch our own viral campaign it'll take some work from one or more of our producers and i think the next thing to go should be The Swizzle Stick Oh, you're already behind the curve on that. Well really? Someone's already grabbed the swizzle stick? Yeah so that's part of the San Francisco law! The swizzle stick has to be wooded. Well we need a video of a fish with a swizzle stick in his eye! Come on! We can get swizzle sticks banned going- It says it's already done! You're done this is no good

2:18:32 Well, let's pick another plastic product. Well the first thing... a couple of things that were in that report. The one thing that stood out to me was somehow going from plastic to paper... by the way what kind of straws were there before there was plastic? Paper. Somehow to go from plastic to paper is gonna cost more. Why? It's paper! I don't know Maybe it cost more. Yeah, because it's bull crap! That's what makes me think the paper straw people have got something to do with this You can make paper straws that are just as good as plastic When I was a kid all the straws I ever used were paper Plastic straw is a new phenomenon But your coke sticks to the inside of it and its not really useful

2:19:19 Well, that could be what it is. I don't even know if that's true. It might be good. What about all those drug addicts? I mean, this bull crap that it would be more expensive. I think you're right. This thing is something of a red herring but I think it is the paper straw people. I think we should go after rubber straws just as good as plastic straws or got his slight coating and wax on them to keep from getting that. That's what keeps it from from sticking Yeah, the wax would stick on the cocaine. This is a travesty! It's just a slight melting point What will Hollywood do? You'd have to slice open the paper straw and then spread it open and scrape out all of the coke that is stuck inside of it And then you have to re-sniff it That would be too much work

2:20:15 The troll room is pointing to a video that this was some 10 year old who launched the campaign. It doesn't get any better, you get a turtle with a straw through his nose and you get a ten-year-old kid going, ah! Nah done I mean your done thats all you need Throw in some SJWs. It'll work for kale, it'll work for these straws. These straws... If I was in the business of making these plastic straws, I'd be beside myself knowing or I'd be retooling for paper immediately because you're toast! Yeah yeah oh totally toast. That's the mob man. The mob is still powerful there but because there's no analysis of it every story it's just well you know turtle

2:20:56 It's the turtle man poor turtle ah Geez yeah Then before we take a break Something I never realized about the 23andme stuff and these DNA tests That thing was just stack who sent me an article about this. You know, I'm against it. I think it's a bad idea I don't also don't want to know what you know what some science thinks? I need You know, I'll just go with the flow. That's just me personally maybe I'm anti-science in that manner but... Anti science! 222 nice Do you know what NPE stands for? Northwest Protective of the...I don't know, have no idea. No it stands for Not Parent Expected and as it turns out there are... Never heard that one Yes It's something if you receive on your DNA report

2:22:02 And in this story the one story I have here is from Ancestry DNA report it means that One of your parents is not your parent and there's and I don't have face bag anymore But there is apparently a face bag group that has thousands of people whose lives were just turned upside down overnight by this stupid test, and it turns out that One of your parents and they often know which one is not your parent And I think it creates some tension, and it's really. It's really quite sad you read these stories man people just Just devastated by it so it's not without risk emotional risk

2:22:49 How do they know about the parents? How would you know he's not your parents, what are we getting results. I said the thing and i get my results it says You got this, you got that, you got this... how is gonna know one of my parents was not my parent? Pretty sure my mother was maybe the dad is somebody else That what is suggesting and how did they know that because they don't have the results from my dad If you read the article which I could skim real now right quickly now until you For instance, if you're mixed... just to give you an idea. If you're a mixed color but you don't have any... John I can't answer it without reading you verbatim from the article. I don't know where it is but there's a reason why there are thousands of people in a group like this one of these tests or multiple of these tests are able to tell you that one of your parents is not yours

2:23:41 From the test alone. I don't have an answer for that But I think you should just take it from me that these groups exist and people are discovering these things It's just that I'm just... You're questioning, I don't have an answer. Your questioning this Yeah, questioning it from a scientific perspective. Okay for her I'll read you...I'll read this to you. For her part Sinclair that's the woman in this article thought she was inquiring about a technical glitch. Her brother the brother who ah here we go who along with three other siblings had gifted her the DNA test for her birthday wasn't showing up right in her family tree

2:24:17 It will, oh okay. So they did have multiple family members which I'm sure is something people do the families all you know we'll do this together right? Okay so there you go that's how it works anyway i just thought it would be a handy tip for people who are considering this to know that it's not without risk or don't get your other family members involved that may be a better way to go just don't do it Well, it just goes into the national database. You might as well just put your... Why don't you get tattoos all over your body to identify you for sure? Yeah a nice QR code. I'm gonna show my salute by donating to Noah Jensen Imagine all the people who could do with us Oh yeah that'd be fab Alright we'll give a few PayPal people able to thank Starting with anonymous with $152... $150 and 20 cents

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2:44:10 Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. And quite the list today. We've got some nights coming up and even some title changes, but first our birthdays Michael Popov celebrated on July 12th So belated to him Aaron Heath turns 31 in July 26 Mark McClennan celebrating 57 trips around the Sun today Dame Dane 51 on the July 21st Kevin Webb's his happy birthday to his brother Chris Webb

2:44:54 Excuse me. Nicole Coupon says happy birthday to her husband Mike and seronymous of dog patches Happy Birthday to angelic night, and we say happy birthday to everybody on the list And those far and beyond not in it listed from everybody here at the no agenda show One two three four five nights to handle today who will be joining the roundtable blades at the ready Blades at the ready Somebody move my sword. Hold on a second, it's over by the phone. Alright I got it. Geez who did that? Up on the podium we need Steven Malin Lewis Pipkin Dmitri Rabinovich Michael Popov and Mark Mallon interesting

2:45:46 Now we have two of those now that can't be right. It's marker doesn't matter here We go gentlemen I'm very proud to pronounce the KD sir Malinowski, sir Pitkin of the Space Coast sir dingus of the burning river and sir leach him out Pop off. For you, we have the round table! We've got it all! We've got hookers and blow, we've got rent boys and chardonnay... We've got crawfish and cane breaks, boba on stinky tofu, Cooper's pale ale and kanga bangers And somewhere we've gotten mutton in meat It's just a bevy of food and alcohol here at the Round Table. This should be Fof-Pop Oh was it Fof-Pop? I'm sorry. It's backwards his name spelled backwards. Oh, Fof-Pop. It was confusing on the list Thank you for correcting. Fof-Pop

2:46:29 My goodness, that's quite the round table all these guys joining in. We have two title changes Sir John the Brewer now becomes Baron of the Bay and Sir Carice or yes Carice becomes a baronet and we congratulate both of you thank you for your contributions to The No Agenda Show some call it By its true name, the best podcast in the universe. And we are Humble. I do have one last segment of clips were running a little long the affiliate should take note but there was a rather interesting interview with AOC by what's-her-face from The News Hour Amy Goodman did you happen to see this?

2:47:27 Amy Goodman. Yeah, she did an interview with the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She's not on a news hour she's on Democracy Now! Ah Democracy Now I'm sorry it's your beat that's why I was wondering if you knew what it was No, but that'd be a perfect interview. Yes and I pulled well actually yes I pulled three clips from it and it was a dual interview on stage in the theater with an audience she likes to do those yeah I didn't know she did these it's an interesting format and even more interesting she had there was a mayor of some town in Spain she's the first socialist mayor

2:48:06 So half of it was in Spanish with a translator and, of course, Alejandra. She broke out some Spanish and you know so that was all very good look very good look but I did want to play these three clips the first two Because from Democracy Now, any serious journalist just this interview itself I found the leading the witness in this case to be of a level that is just unheard of. That's what she does best! Amy is leading the witness Yeah, thats what I said thats what she does best

2:48:43 And I'm going to let her lead the witness and then let's all listen to the future of the Democratic Party speak. Which i think is still the plan, she not the future of the Democratic party? Is that not what the chairman of the democratic party says? Yeah lets hope so Yes because it'll be fun Talk about what is happening in this country today around immigration just hours before we're meeting now. A judge has ruled that families who have just reunited with their children, who Trump had snatched from them in the last week... Trump did it! I mean do you hear that?

2:49:19 Trump had, I mean i know she's speaking metaphorically but that just not journalistic. Trump had snatched them. Who have just reunited with their children who trump has snatched from them in the last weeks cannot be deported The judges put a halt on deportations Why did you go to the border and what do you think needs to happen? I went to the border because our nation is in a moral crisis and there's no convenient time for us to stand up. And virtue signal? Against human rights violations, and every day that we allow these 2,000 children that have been ripped from their parents which is an internationally recognized human rights violation. Uh...I would beg to differ on that

2:50:14 She says these children who were ripped from her parents, ripped like a band-aid that's separating them is an internationally recognized crime against humanity at the border? No it wasn't crime against humanity but it was some sort of crime. But she said crime against humanity! No she didn't go back Okay. These 2,000 children that have been ripped from their parents which is an internationally recognized human rights violation... I'm sorry it's human rights violation you're right she said differently but i think it's the same

2:50:50 I don't know. I would like a Snopes report on that, I would like to know. Fact check false! This is being done in our name this is being done in representation of us as United States citizens every day that we allow the continued violation of those children's rights Is the day that I believe the moral character of the United States is at stake so for me it wasn't a question of whether I should go down there We have to have a rapid response and I think every day that we go on... What has she got to do with it? Well wait, she's going down there. That's going to be apparent. I know your standpoint these clips are for you Mm, lay back.

2:51:51 I like this. I like that Occupy is coming back, it's very interesting We'll have some more mic check mic check Mic Check! This is a clip for you that comes to the point you wanted to make because you'll hear once again leading the witness I just want to check what did Trump say about Mexicans when he first announced his presidency? He said a lot of them are rapists Are you sure about that? Well something like that Okay and what did he say...the president called them most recently Fine people no, no animals remember you call them and I don't remember the animals. Yeah Well it know because he said it about ms-13 Oh, yeah MS 13 animals. Yeah, right That's recognized that he said that about Ms. 13. I think even the mainstream recognize that

2:52:38 I think so. When President Trump ran for the presidency, the first day he talked about Mexicans as rapists and now he's talking about Mexicans as animals. Your response to President Trump? My response is that's not what he said! This policy that has been stopped by judges but now he is trying to control the Supreme Court and the decisions that would go to that level. I think that the best way that we respond to what can widely be recognized, I think is rising fascism. And his policies of it is that we have to go into ourselves and into our communities and mobilize ourselves You know We need to be ready when the next time or if this happens again? We need to be ready to drop everything and go straight to LaGuardia Airport We need to be ready to drop everything and go straight to our local ICE agency because this is not someone that is going to be capable

2:53:41 being convinced through a nice conversation and chat over coffee or even an excorciation on live television. This can only be blocked through our own action. Now this has particular meaning, especially for a global audience that you have Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez saying go to LaGuardia Airport because she actually represents LaGuardia Airport. It's not even my constituency! Come on down! This is where you jump in? Well first of all I'd ask why didn't it go to Kennedy? It's really the International Airport that's the one would be more applicable

2:54:21 I don't know what to say. She doesn't represent anything yet! Oh no, ha! How damn it you're right. Yeah, I cut that for you okay? No she's not elected to anything so she doesn't represent anything but but just a candidate listen what Amy says well Amy is convinced she's already won i think everyone the Democrats have all thought this yeah well just listening meaning especially for a global audience that you have Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez saying go to LaGuardia Airport because she actually represents LaGuardia and she said yes! Oh, come on down. I've represented! Yeah that is pathetic you're right it's absolutely pathetic she's already won the election i wish somebody would go and run against her some republican and just kill her You know that because of the way the elections are written Crowley stays on the ballot did you know that? oh yeah Crowley does stay on the ballot not that it means anything well he's still running he says he's running against her as an independent

2:55:25 He could beat her. Maybe, I don't know if she doesn't shut up well i hope she i hope she wins! I would love to see her...I mean it's actually hope she loses because i think it'd be funnier no oh yeah well the show wins either way then the show wins under all circumstances The thing that gets me there was something she said in there She says a number of things is just kind of uh Oh yeah why come she didn't when Amy the great journalist Amy Goodman When Amy said that Trump called Mexicans animals, when as you point out it was referring specifically to MS-13. Yeah why didn't she say we're gonna get rid of MS-13? Which by the way, MS-13 is out of El Salvador It's not even a Mexican gang That would be the Mexican mafia or some other gangs So he's not even calling... Even remotely calling Mexicans animals because those guys aren't from Mexico

2:56:21 Why didn't AOC, being the great woman that she is stop Amy and said look at least let's talk about this. And be honest about it he never called Mexicans animals She should have said that but she didn't Well it was a hagiography Hagi interview Yeah It was very hagy Now LaGuardia as an airman I know that LaGuardia airport has a lot of problems Think they call it. They call it the aircraft carrier or something like that does I mean, it was originally built in

2:56:58 where it is, which is not very advantageous in hindsight right on the water and that was for seaplanes. And you know back in the day there was a big seaplane... A lot of people using seaplanes and you could land on the water and then taxi right up to the tarmac and people could... You know it would be just a little bridge you wouldn't have to get a boat and all that crazy stuff so LaGuardia is often known for its water issues particularly during storms So, when what do you think is really causing everything all the problems? Global warming! Oh yes. The development of LaGuardia airport also goes to the issue of climate change Absolutely

2:57:40 We have, we already are experiencing a two foot sea level rise in our areas of New York. Two feet! There's a two foot sea level rise? On Manhattan too? I mean it was just one spot that has it? This is Delta 3952 Heavy. Go ahead 3952 Heavy. Uh, we want to clear for landing could you get the fish off the runway please? No problem, we'll get the fish off the runway. Flopping around two-foot sea level rise. This is a... How do people put up with this? We have, we already are experiencing a two foot sea level rise in our areas of New York 14 which directly border LaGuardia Airport so we're already starting to see sometimes flights get delayed because so much water and very heavy seas. No but listen to what she's saying! Listen to the logic of what she's saying. But we're already starting

2:58:37 sea, sometimes flights get delayed because so much water and very heavy storms is starting to kind of take over. When it's a storm the water washes up onto the runway it's been this way since inception! These runways these areas of LaGuardia Airport are experiencing and going are going to be facing very extreme levels of sea level rises and we need to figure out We need to figure out how we're going to either protect the airport or how we're going to adjust basically our infrastructure to accommodate for that. Yeah, well I'll tell you what her idea is because it's in this interview but i didn't clip it she wants to get rid of LaGuardia Airport for low-cost housing. That's what New York needs the tri-state area needs one less airport

2:59:26 Oh brother! Having lived it. Is she insane? Yeah, well no she's young, she's uninformed doesn't have a life history yet you know hasn't been around long enough Apparently doesn't fly out of New York much either. And maybe she's... I don't know. One less airport, we don't need all these airports! Housing housing housing low-income housing yeah and then the final bias story that just irks me because it gets no coverage and I'm just going to say, it probably is getting no coverage because fans of country music are probably Republicans. Fuck them! MGM Resorts International just to get a more favorable judge out of the district has sued 1,000 victims from the Vegas shooting. Yeah, I know And its-it's a trick you know? It's just a trick to get... It's a legal trick yeah To get a more favorable judge but where is that outrage? Where's- boycott Vegas man

3:00:28 Screw, boycott MGM. I don't want to boycott Vegas but screw MGM! That's rude and screw the M5M for not even really reporting on it. Well they reported on it a little bit... Yeah but this is an outrage we still don't know what happened you know there are all kinds of weird reports just no coverage its pathetic. Pathetic Okay um I have a couple different ways. I can go, I got a couple clips that I can play. You get one more. I think our 10 minute warning has already passed. No, I've got two more I'm going to have to get out of here. Okay. I do it because they're short. Sure, I'll give you two shorties instead of a good... Two shorties and the rest moves? We gotta keep up with Elon Musk. Oh Elon! And the pedo guy.

3:01:24 Great story. Yeah, Janelle and Raj fallout is the right word. You may remember the six million dollar man today We saw a two billion dollar tweet courtesy of Elon Musk those billions coming straight from the wallets of Tesla shareholders The tweet was part of a back-and-forth argument between musk and a British diver who helped rescue those trapped soccer players in the caves musk offered up small submarines you may remember one of his companies worked on to help

3:02:06 Well, the subs were not used and that diver called Musk's offer quote a PR stunt. That's when Musk tweeted quote sorry pedo guy to his 22 million followers petto it seems short for pedophile an accusation with no backing now the diver is threatening to sue and Tesla stock lost two billion dollars worth of market value after the tweet came out. And I told you to short it and if you had, then you would have made some money. It went back up but it definitely worked. Yeah so Tesla's hard to short right now that make a mistake. Yeah go with the long-term put anyway on the last one is a shutup slave moment for the Californians who who went through the trouble of getting all these signatures to get splitting up the state on the ballot

3:02:56 But no. Oh, yes. Splitting Cal. Back in this country the state Supreme Court of California has blocked a November ballot measure to split the state into three parts. Supporters argue the state has grown too big and too diverse to govern but the court ruled that it needs more time to hear questions about the proposal's validity The measure might still appear on some future ballot Yeah what a loss huh? That was gonna vote yes, of course I was all ready for that damn it alright everybody fast and furious today We covered a lot of ground and there will be much more to talk about on Sunday. We've got clips were holding over So there's definitely stuff to talk about And it showed a anything could happen keep your eyes open your ears open and keep talking to us Let us know what you got anonymity assured when necessary and requested

3:03:56 And coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas for the fourth time. We're the capital of the Dronestar State that's FEMA region number six on the governmental maps in the 5x9 Cluedio and the Common Law condo in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where the fogs lifted but it'll be back tomorrow! I'm John C. Dvorak we return on Sunday with another episode of The No Agenda Show remember us at dvorak dot org slash NA until then Adios, mofos! I need a cab. Get it yourself... ...I'm staying here. Only to an old agenda... Or else. It's gonna be a great show!! I don't need to take that abuse. Deep breath.

3:05:04 This was a big day. You have been watching perhaps one of the most disgraceful performances by an American president that I've ever seen It was probably the low point of the presidency Wow disgusting President Trump is not on America's team it was nothing short of treasonous Donald Trump betrayed America We have a present who is betraying us he was like a scared chicken The way he cowered. Trump was pretty nervous, most people are nervous when meeting their boss He embraced him he validated him while trashing his own country and gave the middle finger to America Embarrassing the country The single most embarrassing performance that I've ever seen The United States was attacked and President Trump today sided with the enemy It is disgraceful refusing to side

3:05:48 with his own country, his own country. You should call this the Surrender Summit This is evidence of collusion What we saw yesterday was collusion And he's basically saying I'm with Vrad Why he did so? I can't really get into that Uh-I'm not a doctor Trump was so impotent it's no wonder he leaves the Russian summit with one ball That's a nice gift although... I think Putin still has a set of Trump balls It was time for Trump to put his foot down and he did right on America's dick Sorry it's not funny They, I think feel like they can't depend on America. They don't know what to expect and this is a global political crisis Lisa Lerner do you think it's that serious? A global political crisis or do you think people are just kind of listening to the president and thinking well wait 15 minutes and see what he says Oh no! He is unpredictable to the point where they have

3:06:49 No faith or trust in him. Oh, no oh no I think it's a global political crisis. I totally agree Global global political crisis We are witnessing John I'm glad somebody told us because we need to know this for the show. But he is unpredictable to the point where they... Oh no, oh no! I think it's a global political crisis We're gonna have to leave it there Global political crisis By the way, the website is cosmicweenie dot coms We're gonna have to leave it there $100,000 With paid vacation

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3:09:36 They're collecting now for the foie gras drive, for the neediest cases. Welcome to the beginning of the end of Obamacare! He's a funny guy because he gets people to say stupid things... Your son played the bass? We sat through that?! We're also living in a grown-up world. It's stunning in this detail The president is conflating the two issues. Collusion accusation. Okay, any collusion? One of the reasons why I lost my job frankly okay and spreading it to the world We're also living in a grown-up world. I think Cheney treated Will, he treated W well That's right You smile let me finish

3:10:30 I let him know we can't have this, we're not going to have it and that's the way it is going to be. He's a funny guy because he gets people to say stupid things. I thought Borat was hilarious. The best podcast in the universe!