Episode 1008 · Sunday, 18 February 2018

Ghost Guns

Mainstream narratives fracture as Venice canals drain to mud, the ATF loses track of thousands of service weapons, and corporate giants revolt against big tech's lack of oversight.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 1008

About this episode

Venice gondolas sit stranded in mud as historic low tides drain the city's famous canals, yet the visual phenomenon remains largely absent from mainstream climate reporting. The Daily Mail and The Sun are among the few outlets documenting the sludge, which contradicts standard sea-level rise narratives. Meanwhile, a security breach at the National Security Agency headquarters in Fort Meade involving a black SUV and gunfire mirrors a 2015 incident at the same gate.

Nicholas Cruz remains in custody following the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida. Witness accounts from students suggest the possibility of a second shooter or a concurrent active shooter drill, while Democratic leaders Nancy Pelosi and Kamala Harris pivot to gun control legislation. A 2012 ATF report reveals that over 190,000 firearms have been lost or stolen by law enforcement, fueling a black market for untraceable weapons. CBS News demonstrated this lack of oversight by assembling a functional 9mm ghost gun from an online kit in under three hours. In the corporate world, Unilever CMO Keith Weed announced a $9 billion pull-back from digital platforms like Google and Facebook that fail to ensure brand safety or protect children.

Omarosa Manigault Newman targets Vice President Mike Pence on Celebrity Big Brother, labeling his religious views as extreme. Senator Dianne Feinstein faces scrutiny as archival footage from the 1990s reveals her previous hardline stance against illegal immigration in California. The program concludes with a musical parody titled The Snowflake Bunch, mocking the current state of outrage culture and political activism.


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CHAPTER 01 / 42 Discussion

Venice Canal Drought, Media Reporting Discrepancies

Venice canals have reportedly drained to mud, leaving gondolas stranded in sludge. Despite the visual nature of the event, mainstream media coverage remains sparse, with only the Daily Mail and The Sun providing reports. Speculation suggests the lack of coverage stems from the event contradicting global warming narratives regarding rising sea levels, though some reports attribute the low water levels to historic low tides and lunar cycles.

venice· gondolas· drought· climate change· daily mail· the sun· tides

00:00 Eye worms. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Thursday February 15th 2018 this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1008 This is no agenda Never letting a good crisis go to waste and broadcasting live from downtown Austin Tejas Cat with the drone Star State in the Cluedio In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where we're back at it drought John C. DeVore You're back on what drought I couldn't hear you so I said yeah, you backed away from the mic or something no. I screamed mmm Well then no probably blew it out Yeah, he blew it up in the morning sir. I'm the first one to declare it what the drought yes interesting you say that

00:49 I cannot find a single media report in the M5M about Venice. Remember when Venice was drowning and they were bringing in the Dutch? Sinking, we're all gonna die... The Dutch had to come in and all this stuff yeah well now there's such a drought in Venice the gondolas they can't even go on the canal it's just mud that completely drained Wow, that would be great to see. Well you can look I mean just if you bing it for a second... Can you imagine the garbage and junk that's in there? You have- you gotta bing it! Bing it now! You got to bing it right now because it's just beautiful Did you bing it

01:40 I'm still typing it in. Name that tune, John! Wow! Bing It. Yeah? The name of the tune is Bing It. Okay, I'm looking at the pictures now you can stop playing that as much as i love it um holy crap it's hilarious and there's not a single media report that's so it was Venice mud drought and I got there's not This is going on and there's absolutely no media on this? This is a great story. Nothing, nothing at all You know what it is I can tell you why Yeah because they cant figure out how to present it after global warming and climate change was going to drown Venice Well theres that And ill betcha it stinks to high heaven Do you want X-Nay on the El Smey cause the Urustays wont umkay

02:40 Man, this is something I really am surprised that this just zero reporting of course There's other important things to report on obviously you put. This is pretty This is yeah, but this the kind of stuff if your news guy This is great material because it's so picturesque fantastic isn't just boats sitting on top of mud I know there's a great. There's no gondolas going on. I don't have a shot of them of the grand that super The big giant river the one in the middle. I mean if that's still kind of good enough when a Winds place you me know it's just a just kidding this is something yeah, I know then I can now This is what I'm thinking and I could also got water Yeah But not a lot and ice and I searched and I searched And I could not find a video of any news organization covered anywhere Not even in BBC or Channel 4 none of it They will

03:37 Well, maybe I mean Maybe yeah. Wow this is something good quick good catch Yeah, the only only the no agenda show again that's right. Yeah, but so anyone out there what interested go to Bing Venice mud drought would be your search terms and you get these great pictures oh Almost like all the little side canals are all just mud. I was look, I couldn't find and I don't know if we had a clip last time but i don't think so. Don't think we had any clip of it either at least nothing I could find in the archives Okay Daily Mail's got a story on it

04:16 Yeah, yes and they have daily mail of all this right it's not of all places I have to say because I found the Daily Mail is like well This could be bullcrap It's the Daily Mail so I went looking but then this The Sun has an article than the Daily Mails got another one then finally no that's it That's it. I'm only seeing three articles I know I know two dollaricles in a daily mail And it's an article on The Sun But we have the picture So it's obviously happening you would think Wow. And then the Daily Mail broke on this in February, the Sun broke on it December 30th... Hold on a second this is a problem. Venice famous gondolas left sinking into sludge after historic low tide. This was December 30 2016. No!

05:13 Wait, I have a... that's interesting. Let me see if I don't have it to me. And the water is all gone! It says this is again Daily Mail but this is December 2016 then The Daily Mail came back on February 1st this year Yes With the same story Oh really? Yeah Well this apparently.. The story I read, I'm looking for now was that this happened after the double red triple witching hour blue moon thing beer That's the story I'm looking at. That's a very first story about the double blue moon or whatever they call it Okay, super witching double blue red. Well is anybody in Venice could you please give us a call? Yeah We'd like to know what the hell is going on here have one from another fine article Express dot K dot Co UK and this is February 1st so they're reporting it hmm

CHAPTER 02 / 42 Discussion

NSA Gate Security Incident, 2015 Media Comparison

Authorities are investigating a security incident at the National Security Agency headquarters in Fort Meade, Maryland, involving a black SUV and gunfire. A comparison of current reports with a 2015 incident reveals striking similarities, where two men dressed as women in a stolen vehicle attempted to ram an NSA gate. The 2015 event resulted in one fatality and multiple injuries, leading to questions about the repetitive nature of these security breaches and the accuracy of initial media reports.

nsa· fort meade· maryland· cross-dressing· security breach· fbi

06:13 Alright, well apparently something like this happened last year not last year with the year before December and we missed that one Well no wonder they don't want to report on it. It's just tides they got tides They got side they got tides All right well speaking of stories like that We had a number of interesting occurrences take place. I will play a clip about the first one at the NSA. Shots fired outside the National Security Agency in Maryland and now authorities are investigating local station WBAL reports that at least three people have been shot but none of those people have life-threatening injuries this video shows a black SUV with bullet holes in the windshield that crashed into barriers near the NSA gate

06:56 The shooter is reportedly in custody and according to CNN, authorities say it is not an ongoing situation. There is no ongoing risk No one is allowed inside NSA campus while the investigation continues Now I had a report on this they didn't clip it but I did clip it but then never put on the clip list Well, but you see... Wait hold on, I have a second clip for you All right, two cross-dressing prostitutes a stolen car in her wrong turn We are learning what led to a deadly confrontation at one of the nation's most secure facilities New details on where today shooting at the National Security Agency were it all

07:35 began. Officers there shot and killed one person and wounded another when investigators say two people in a stolen car tried to ram the gate Howard County Police said today that deadly incident at the NSA all began with an SUV stolen from a motel somewhere along Route 1 well tonight WUSA has learned that this is the motel where the entire incident began when 2 men dressed as women stole that SUV and took off in it A source who was at the Terrace Motel this morning says a man, who could be considered the day's first victim checked in around 7.30am Barely an hour later that man emerged from his room screaming that quote two transvestites had stolen his SUV Howard County Police Dispatch confirms receiving a 911 call about a stolen vehicle from the hotel about that time

08:25 10 miles away and less than an hour later, this was the scene outside the gates of the National Security Agency at Fort Meade. The driver of the SUV was dead. An NSA officer and the SUV's passenger both wounded Now investigators from the FBI, NSA and local police are trying to piece together what happened NSA police say the two men in the SUV, both dressed as women pulled up to the employee gate at the NSA just off of Baltimore Washington Parkway. The NSA says its police ordered them and turn around and leave but the car quote failed to stop and barriers were deployed

09:02 When the SUV accelerated towards the barriers and a police cruiser blocking the road, police opened fire. Investigators would later find a handgun and a small amount of cocaine in the SUV CBS News confirmed The injured NSA officer was taken to an area hospital as was the SUV's passenger who CBS News has identified as Kevin Lamont Fleming age 20 His injuries were considered critical So that was a better report don't you think? Well, I heard another report on ABC. Can i just say one thing? The report you just heard was from 2015 That makes more sense exact same occurrence it was well I don't know if was the transvestites again well they were cross-dressed yes there would men dressed as women Okay so the first one you play with the current reporter is like a monster correct from 2015 to which sounds exactly the same and then the report that I heard on ABC was that

10:01 They shot at the car, nobody in the car was hurt but they shot two guys random guys other agents. Just some other agent? Yes! That's even better Yeah it's a wish I had it but it is even better because the guys apparently in the car weren't injured you know there was riddled with bullets But this...this is odd And then it, well yeah no kidding. And then they showed where it hit the barriers and just this not some barrier they moved It was a barrier! It was like...it was like a piece of cement Yeah concrete Well what is with the NSA and men dressing up as women? That's the real- Here's what it is

10:45 I don't know what it is, but i'm going to tell you what my theory is. Okay Apparently there's so many crossdressers in the NSA that many of them forget to get into their regular civilian clothes They're told to go back Hey! Go put on your suit dude Okay well this would happen often of course Now it's either that or you know there's a lot of transsexual prostitutes frequenting NSA members and someone got pissed off about something. I don't know that seems like it just it's very odd. And why? Why is this pretty much the exact same thing? It refers to them shooting all over the place and killing a couple of bystanders because they can shoot straight Well we laugh but it really is quite sad It is sad especially for the bystanders Yeah, geez

11:39 So I really don't know what's going on with that. It's but, you know when something like... Good catch on the two years ago three years ago! Well i have to say that I was searching around for some video and it came across those reports were both from USA Today and as I was looking at USA Today I'm like wait a minute this is does they have the wrong video in the wrong report? And I couldn't figure out because it was so identical and I remember this happening I remember us talking about it. What kind of time warp did I enter? Ah, the Mandela effect! That's what was happening with the mud in Venice. Yes, Mandela Mud. Alright well I guess we should get into the shooting... Yeah and I want to say something right up front but I tend to do this when we have one of these events

CHAPTER 03 / 42 Discussion

Parkland School Shooting, Nicholas Cruz Custody Details

A mass shooting at a high school in Parkland, Florida, resulted in 17 fatalities and numerous injuries. The suspect, identified as former student Nicholas Cruz, was taken into custody after initially attempting to blend in with fleeing students. Reports indicate Cruz had a history of mental health issues and had previously been treated at a clinic, while witnesses described his prior fascination with firearms and knives.

parkland· florida· nicholas cruz· school shooting· mental health· broward county

12:30 Yes, we can. We will be looking and lots of people are saying oh it's false flag And there's all these kinds of discrepancies and weird things and I definitely think there's odd occurrences here But I just want to make sure that everyone knows the most important thing right now is is to keep your no agenda eyes and ears open for what this will be used for. Never let a good crisis go to waste, what are they going to do? Will it be gun control I've heard possibly... Oh if this guy was a dreamer that would be interesting If he was a DACA protected person I've even heard even on M5M I've heard people talking about well what psychotropic drugs was he on

13:11 Well, you did because I looked and looked for that. I mean the one report where he was in a nut house for awhile and then he stopped going And of course I used the politically correct term Nut House Yes Well let's just play some clips and we'll discuss it Okay Let's go with the, here is the summary of the story that people don't know what we're talking about which is always possible. This is, I'm sorry, I just want to mention that I didn't go into this thing for 15 minutes but

13:48 But Muir, this is one of those instances where they have such a big story to do that Muir's summary is all you need. With us here on a very busy night and sadly we do begin with another horrific school shooting A difficult night for this nation as we have just learned at least 17 dead after a shooting rampage inside a Florida high school Gunfire heard inside and outside the school It was put on lockdown students running for their lives A massive show of force from law enforcement. Some of the injured treated right there on the sidewalk outside the school. Meantime, these images now emerging inside the schools students hiding from the gunfire armed SWAT going classroom to classroom you can hear the students in horror

14:31 anguished parents waiting to hear from their children tearful reunions when they finally reach them at this hour a suspect is in custody it is believed he was a former student his name is Nicholas Cruz we do have team coverage beginning with ABC's Victor Akendo on the scene and Parkland Florida tonight. That sounds pretty much Mike, at least no details but that's the general summary yeah I thought so uh... We had a actually liked the local reports better because in the case of at least some of the details that were I mean, ABC report went on for 15 minutes. It was a whole A block there wasn't anything else. They did a lot more coverage than certainly with local people and local news than the Vegas shooting seemed much more expansive? I think so but there is a but i think the best report that I could find was a local report now I think it

15:27 Yeah, yeah. Local report. least one AR-15 style assault rifle and multiple magazines. Some students say the suspect had been known to carry guns. He carried multiple guns, he showed me his gun I saw what guns he had, he showed me personally. Investigators say the suspects social media pages had photos showing him with knives, guns and threatening messages We've already began to dissect his websites and things that social media that he was on some of the things have come to mind are very very disturbing

16:16 Cruz was treated and released from a hospital tonight and taken into custody. The Broward County mayor told one media outlet that Cruz had been getting treatment at a mental health clinic for awhile but stopped going a year ago. Tonight the sheriff says 12 of the 17 people killed have been identified, there are number of people injured who remain in the hospital among those hit by the bullets. A well-loved security guard and football coach He reportedly used his own body to shield students from the gunfire. It's also, when you think about it Jenna just amazing that this kid tried to blend in with the crowd and it worked he was able to get out of school

16:55 Yes, we're still waiting to hear details about how they were able to trace him to the next town over but you saw there in the video that he was arrested and It sounds as though. He is cooperating with police and providing some information so we'll expect more tomorrow in the morning hmm all right well So we get a lot of good stuff this look like an observation in general And even people on television were making this observation that talking heads This school may be, you know it just everyone may be doped up. It maybe a just of epidemic proportions that everybody is on some kind of SSRI all these kids who were who appeared on television and in math teacher like they were all on every channel the same kids and they were all very calm

17:45 Ben, now of course shock etc. but geez I mean it was really uncanny how calm they all were a lot of them and this guy's I saw some kids like a little nervous and the in the alleged shooter he was going to mental health clinic well that kind of explains that then doesn't it? Well let's go over some other stuff that was in this report that may or may not be true but first he says he was treated at a hospital and then released and grabbed again than taken to prison Yes, correct. Why? Yeah we don't know We don't know it not they even had him in the hospital guard when they when they booked yes exactly no idea there's nothing he was on a gurney I've no idea There were walking him and what I saw No They put them on a gurney into the ambulance and the ambulance took to the hospital And then from the hospital he why ever saw any of those clips okay

CHAPTER 04 / 42 Discussion

Parkland Shooting Anomalies, Second Shooter Claims

Discrepancies in the Parkland shooting narrative include reports of a concurrent active shooter drill and the rapid deployment of a mobile crime lab. One student witness claimed she spoke with Nicholas Cruz in the hallway while gunfire was simultaneously occurring in another part of the building, suggesting the presence of a second shooter. Further speculation involves how police located Cruz so quickly in a neighboring town, with theories ranging from phone triangulation to more invasive tracking methods.

active shooter drill· tracking device· second shooter· parkland· conspiracy theory

18:39 And I saw him being walked into the police department with garb. Yes, Tina lived there she lives right nearby and she was really affected by this so the Other question that comes to mind okay So he leaves with the students which is only one year out of the school He could look like a senior it's not a big deal. He's big big guy and Obviously not a pushover type and then somehow he gets him goes over a mile away into some other town Yeah, why did they get him? We don't know we know nothing. Well here Here's the things that bother me Did he have I knew you did have a tracking device stuck in them That's possible here's the things that bothered me so there were There was a fire this and we all always loved the fire drill there was a fire drill

19:32 Earlier in the day there were reports that the school had also been notified. There would be an active shooter drill Now I can't corroborate any of this of course, but whenever there's drills going on you always got to be a little bit good What anything could under how about this for an idea? Let me just finish my thought Sure. The amount of not just hardware that showed up very quickly, but even the mobile crime lab which is a huge semi-tractor trailer That was on scene within the hour, I think. And I've looked at the video and all the kids say the same thing they say...I saw there was blood in the hallway where someone had been dragged away Yeah, I saw a body No it's not anyone I know that was very consistent

20:24 No one really knew anyone who would be killed. I didn't get that either, I got plenty of people saw their dead friend Oh yeah? Okay well i didn't see that Yeah there was a dead friend going oh my friend and they were crying literally I'm going to get back to the things that are mysterious, which is how they... The guy goes he's in another town a mile away. He's just roaming around somewhere. What is he doing in this other town? Has he still got his AR-15 with him or has he got a Ben Delaro? Why does he draw attention to himself because he decided not to draw attention to himself when he casually left with the rest of the kids and then took off and they couldn't catch him This just this is just a complete speculation

21:09 He was in a mental hospital and then left it. During his period of being in the mental hospital, was it possible to put a tracking device on him? You like this! You like the tracking device thing don't you?! No wait listen... hear this out They put a tracking device on him that's how they so easily got him within just no time They just went over and picked him up And then, once they figured out who it was I guess. So they looked him up in the database where is he? There he is over here and they go pick him up Then they take them to the hospital to remove the tracking device Why else would you go to the hospital Man your better than I am at this This a good conspiracy theory I like it! And then they walked him into the police station but he couldn't have the tracking device on anymore because it would draw attention to the fact that their doing this Huh?! Okay

22:03 So, what is that? Yes. Now with that in mind the with or without you somebody has to explain to me how they caught this guy almost instantly after he had disappeared into the crowd and then ended up in some other town right doesn't make any sense they didn't have a APB out on anybody didn't have his picture there was no way unless it was a tracking device involved this seems to me And if it's possible, that half the people in that whole area which is kind of a Stepford Wives area from the sounds of it has tracking devices on them. Now I never heard anything about any SSRIs or anything like that and that seems to be the lead story. Of course he has a telephone. He has a natural tracking device on his person. If you had his phone with him, he's trackable How about that? It's not that far of stretch

22:55 Yeah, I agree with that but any smart guy doing this is not gonna have his phone with him. Yeah well...I don't think smart people do this? Well I know but this guy was yeah but these you see how it seemed like a little paranoid he might have been Smart enough not to have a phone with him and then again they how long it takes it I don't know How long it takes to triangulate somebody's phone But it doesn't die well I have an alternative clip which comes from a local news source And again, a very calm girl. She speaks of a number of interesting things. I actually was in the bathroom at the moment and I came back to my classroom and knocked on the door and the fire alarm went off and principal came on the speaker just said

23:39 Everyone needs to evacuate right now. So that's what we did as I was going down the stairs, I heard a couple shots fired everyone was freaking out saying that it was a gun and As we were walking the whole class together. I actually was speaking to the suspect Nicholas Cruz And as I was speaking to him, he seemed very-I don't know what the word I want to say is. But um... He was trouble in middle school so i kind of joked to him about it and said I'm surprised you weren't the one who did it and he just gave me a huh? So uh that's really what happened. You were walking down the hall he had already fired at that time Yes sir with him Weren't you scared

24:30 Um, in the moment I wasn't because there was obviously definitely another shooter involved. But... Oh you think he was not the only one? No, definitely not Why do you say that Because when shots were fired I saw him after the fact So and the shots were coming from the other part of the building so there definitely had to be two shooters involved That's the first. I've heard of that did you see any other students who are wounded? I Don't know what to make of it, I also don't have to make up the no sir and all that stuff and

CHAPTER 05 / 42 Discussion

Donald Trump, National Unity and Traumatic Events

President Donald Trump reportedly told news anchors during a private lunch that it is difficult to unify a divided country without a major traumatic event. While expressing a desire to bring Americans together without such suffering, he noted that historical precedents often involve citizens pulling together during times of crisis. These comments, made shortly before his State of the Union address, have drawn scrutiny in the wake of recent national tragedies.

donald trump· state of the union· national unity· traumatic event· pbs newshour

25:13 Very unusual for a girl like that to be saying no sir yes sir. Exactly. Unless she's a Stepford wife or in training That was a very, very... that's a very good clip that you have there for just confusing matters. It's great! I saved an article from January 30th and i remember reading it thinking ah i should bring that up didn't of course but i went to bingit.io and came right up this is from PBS NewsHour it's not a clip but i will read headline, Trump says it will be hard to unify country without a major event. Hours before his first State of the Union President Donald Trump said today he wants to unite the country amid tremendous divisiveness and hopes you can do so without a traumatic effect...event affecting Americans

26:05 Trump spoke about creating a more united country during lunch with a number of television news anchors. Trump said the United States has long been divided, including during the impeachment of former President Bill Clinton. Trump also said that Americans usually come together during times of suffering. Quote I would love to be able to bring back our country into great form of unity without a major event where people pull together that's hard to do but i would like to do it without that major event because usually that major even is not a good thing Come on! I mean, you're just feeding the machine with that. Well maybe yeah i remember that too That was a...I think we may have even discussed it on the show. I don't know if had anything to do with this I really doubt it well but the only thing I thought was because again what I didn't see immediately I saw kids on television I saw one kid with his mom who was like jumping in interjecting when he was going off the rails

27:04 I didn't see the typical lawmakers, guns guns. It's there obviously but it wasn't the first thing that happened it was the kids and you know immediately kids were put on television continuously You know if he was a dreamer? If he was a DACA recipient That would be an event that might pull us together on immigration Might Well that better show up pretty soon. It doesn't take that long to figure out So that's got to be in today's news. Got to happen soon yes Now, I got a clip from one of the producers sent me and I want to compliment. I want to play the clip just don't want to send you the last minute clip so it's cue that up this cute now what is It's I want to play because it's an exact. It's a good example of a thoughtful clip It's from I guess Good Morning America or something with Stephanopoulos maybe its morning thing or ABC This Morning

CHAPTER 06 / 42 Discussion

Media Profiling, Bullying Narratives in Mass Shootings

Mainstream media outlets, including ABC News, utilized former law enforcement officials like Ray Kelly and Brad Garrett to profile the Parkland shooter before full facts were established. These analysts suggested that bullying and long-term planning are common elements in school shootings, even when local reports characterized the suspect as the aggressor rather than a victim. The coverage emphasized the "18 school shootings in 2018" statistic to frame the policy discussion around gun control.

ray kelly· brad garrett· fbi· profiling· bullying· abc news

27:58 Yeah, it could be. I mean, it's Stephanopoulos but I don't know what the venue was. I could have been told that but this is an example of the kind of clips we like to get from producers. It is recorded properly. It's from something obscure that we probably won't catch and we didn't... Oh wait! And it's not some YouTube video with some guy showing web pages talking for 30 minutes? Because I wrote that down to remind people please don't send me that. Please don't do somebody sent you something like this somebody 30 a day This is great look at this YouTube and I think look unless it includes a clip from the m5m or something That is

28:35 you know, that is mainstream reporting. Please don't send me videos of guys talking about some web page they're looking at and saying things like this is unhinged people! This is crazy they're at it I mean don't don't I have no time for it Unless there's something in it, you know. Here is a good example of that. Let me give you the premise to this clip This is before anybody knew anything and so ABC immediately brings out the usual suspects To spew The usual theories that have nothing to do with anything Ray Kelly former New York City police chief The shooter now in custody We see that picture right there Now the police have to try and figure out why

29:19 Yeah, I would bet that there's an element of bullying involved here. We've seen it in so many cases someone is real or perceives that they're being bullied They think about it they plan it for months and they act out Wait a minute wait a minute just they're saying that he was bullied? Yeah, he's a poor... He is the victim of a bully. Every clip I've seen was this guy was troublemaker he was trouble, he had guns. He is the bully if that we can believe the reports. Real or perceived that they're being bullied They think about it they plan it for months and they act out and you know We don't know for sure but I'm pretty certain there's an element of that here Right! And Brad Garrett we've seen this also from school students What's that?

30:10 He says, I don't know for sure but there's got to be an element of that. They're just making it up! Why is this even on the air? For sure but i'm pretty certain there's an element of that here Right and Brad Garrett we've seen this also from school shootings that have been thwarted not only the ones that are carried out An element of planning going into this as you say building up their resentments for weeks maybe months putting the whole plan together And then one day something snaps Something snaps, but here's what happened George. He has told other kids maybe not that he was going to go commit a mass shooting today at school

30:46 but his anger, his rage, his darkness is maybe focus on particular students or particular groups within the school are going to be out there. These are teenagers they talk through social media they text each other so we're gonna have to see that's all gonna break down at some point as to what exactly did this kid say uh... to others before the shooting occurred and you and I talked a few minutes ago which is access to weapons how did he get the weapon or weapons that he had today. It is always the question in every one of these shooters and it's usually the answer they're readily available at home, readily available at home and we've also seen there have been so many loopholes in the whole background check system that so many people who shouldn't be having guns are indeed able to buy them.

31:37 Nothing. They got nothing. We did have a profiler show up on that David Muir report on ABC and here's another, this is the FBI profiler they bring in once in awhile when they're doing a wrap on something like this. And Brad the suspect was a former student that what we believe at this point from authorities there on scene, a former student at the school What does that tell us, obviously about possible links to some of the students still attending class there? Because this school is the issue David in his mind. Much like Adam Lanza went back to an elementary school at Sandy Hook he hadn't been there in years it's what the school represented in his mind

32:16 Brad Garrett with us, a former FBI agent. Our terrorism analyst Brad we thank you as always unfortunately always tough topics when we bring you on in the meeting It really is when they have so little information it's normal for people to just go on whatever they find and they can get I think i'm pretty level-headed and live in multiple dimension straddle but from the minute this happened I was like wow man this is so different It's very different. I mean, there is not... this is the first time that I've heard of the background checks and I haven't watched since we started the show this morning. I just don't know where they're going to take it or what its going to be used for but I think something will be unveiled today. And what does this mean? There have been 18 school shootings so far and it's only February. Yeah they said that numerous times

CHAPTER 07 / 42 Discussion

Gun Control Legislation, Political Reactions to Florida Shooting

Democratic leaders Nancy Pelosi and Kamala Harris immediately called for legislative action on gun violence following the Florida school shooting, citing it as an epidemic. In contrast, First Lady Melania Trump offered prayers for the victims, while the White House maintained that policy conversations regarding gun laws would occur in due time. Observers noted that gun control had not been a primary focus of the current political rotation, which had been dominated by Russia and immigration.

nancy pelosi· kamala harris· melania trump· gun laws· white house

33:13 I don't know what the background is. There's been some reports which even have the apparently this guy would get 17 dead and there were two others killed in other shootings, and they've been total number of shootings with deaths This doesn't add up. They're just emphasizing this, and so let's go we had a 15 minute piece like I said the David Muir piece went on almost about 13 1⁄2 minutes actually and they wrap it, they give it to Cecilia Vega who's the Trump hater that works there and she's at the White House. And so they throw it to her to finish things off, and this is the rap sorry. In Las Vegas he said we'll be talking quote We will talk about gun laws as time goes on David there has not been a very serious public

33:59 policy conversation about gun control here at this administration in this White House. The president tweeted today, no child teacher or anyone else should ever feel unsafe in an American school we will see if this is the one that forces that policy conversation. All right Cecilia Vega live with the White House Cecilia thanks as always. No, now I want to play the shooting tweets House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco tweets, too many families have lost someone to the senseless epidemic of gun violence. California Senator Kamala Harris tweets this is the 18th school shooting in the first 43 days of 2018 we cannot accept this as normal We must address a gun violence and First Lady Melania Trump tweets my heart is heavy over the school shooting in Florida Keeping all affected in my thoughts and prayers

34:49 Now if you listen to this, you had two people politicizing it. Pelosi and Harris and they were saying oh guns! And so then Melania comes on she does what she should have done showed some heart just sent out some prayers for the dead kids now I was thinking about this because i knew they were going to politicize this and go back to the gun thing which couldn't work during the Obama administration He had some good shootings during that period. But it's also, there is another thing going on... Yeah they want to politicize the gun thing but that's not on the roster! That is not in rotation It has to be Russia, it has to be Stormy The Hooker, it has to be racist This is not in rotation guns have not been an issue I know and its not on a list and I don't see how you are gonna get it on the list but back to the guns issues about these problems like I ran into this one report

CHAPTER 08 / 42 Discussion

Stolen Police Firearms, ATF Loss Statistics

A 2012 report from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) revealed that over 190,000 firearms were reported lost or stolen by law enforcement officers nationwide. This statistic highlights a significant loophole in gun control efforts, as many service weapons are not properly secured in vehicles according to department policies. These stolen or lost weapons frequently enter the black market, contributing to the volume of untraceable firearms on the street.

atf· law enforcement· stolen guns· police policy· firearms

35:46 There's someone to play which is an ask Adam. Okay, because we had a shooting here Which this is prefaced by when you play this clip We had a shooting here some and there's a big lawsuit It's a big scandal in the Bay Area some cop left his gun in the car And some guy grabbed the gun it ended up at the gang and then the gang killed somebody with that gun So you're thinking about how many time was sorry? No I said sorry I like cute too early No, I'm gonna tell you when to cue because there's an ask Adam here. So there was a report done in 2012 and I don't know if this reports been repeated but how many... This is a 2012 report. How many cops are just the guess of random number? How many cops or law enforcement individuals and we're talking about guns on the street if you can buy guns let's have gun control but are you going to disarm the police

36:43 Seems unlikely in this country, so you're not gonna disarm the police. So how many guns are stolen from the police? So you want me to give the answer before I hear the clip yes, yeah of course. Okay let me think all right How many? Ask Adam! Gotta play my clit man Alright, how many guns are stolen from the police? Are you talking about nationwide on an annual basis. What is the scale for the number? Nationwide I would say... 3000 The department policy clearly states that firearms are to be placed in a quote locked metal container affixed to the vehicle or inside the lock trunk of the vehicle out of public view None of those things happened here In fact

37:30 The officer did not even know that his weapon had been stolen. The police department wouldn't comment on the claim but says the officer is still on patrol while police investigate the case internally. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms reported that in 2012 more than 190 thousand firearms were reported lost or stolen by law enforcement officers nationwide How many? One hundred and ninety thousand Wow Okay That's more than good luck with your gun control. Yeah seems like that's where the loophole is and Are they being stolen or sold? And we're not sure there I'm sure if you still have many You don't need all that many guns you would probably steal it maybe get a cache of guns, and you put them on the black market sure Dang well if you want to go on further with one other gun loophole sure this is CBS

CHAPTER 09 / 42 Discussion

Ghost Guns, CBS News DIY Firearm Report

A CBS News investigative report demonstrated the ease of building a "ghost gun"—an unregistered firearm with no serial number—using a do-it-yourself kit purchased online. The reporter successfully assembled a functional 9mm handgun in less than three hours under supervision, though he declined to test-fire the weapon himself. Critics of the report pointed out the inherent anti-gun bias in the segment, particularly the decision to have the weapon destroyed by police immediately after the demonstration.

ghost guns· glock· lower receiver· cbs news· gunsmithing

38:36 And CBS did a re... this is out of the blue, I don't know anything about this. This is the report they did on what they call and it was on right like yesterday or the day before Oh just coincidental? Coincidental uh on ghost guns. This handgun looks and fires just like a Glock 9mm It has no serial number its completely untraceable and its 100% legal It's known as a ghost gun and we bought one online with no background check or waiting period. It is not technically a firearm because the part that would be registered, the lower receiver still needs work

39:15 The do-it-yourself kit came with all the necessary parts, even the drill bits in a plastic template showing exactly where to drill the holes. It's not going to take a tremendous amount of gunsmithing skill. Former LAPD SWAT officer Scott Reitz agreed to supervise while I build. We're removing these black tabs... Following an instructional YouTube video It took less than three hours to build. How'd I do? Well, it looks like you did pretty well for a novice after a safety check and test firing Reeds put the gun through its paces feel alright. Yeah Unsterilized unregistered First of all this goes on that we can play the rest of it but I had to stop it here because I'm

40:04 I'm going to take the perspective of the reporter or think about the reporter. The reporter built this gun, he's got some expert watching him and make sure it doesn't right. And a guy tests again test fires another testing bench And then he says, then I had him shoot the gun and then he says was it okay? Yeah it was pretty good. He says why didn't the reporter shoot the gun?! Oh because he's afraid! He has PTSD from... He is afraid of the gun. No he's afraid of the gun Yes he's afraid that the gun will blow up in his hand or something like that Or might shoot somebody. Oh he's just afraid of the gun. He's like you know people ooh eek it's a gun Eek it's a gun

40:45 Well, did we have a report of got PTSD after firing a... Yes I remember that too. This guy so this guy's a wimp Let's face it, and then by the way at the end of the report I don't know if you can get through the whole thing. You really don't have to play any more of it But at the end he says we made sure that give the gun and have the gun destroyed or have a gun sent back to the police This is ridiculous! So in other words so what were dealing with here when were talking about bias This is anti-gun bias within the news organization. To such an extreme that the guy can't hold a gun, can't touch a gun, can't even deal with it he has to send it back to the... you know, have it chopped up afterwards

41:31 and he makes sure to tell everybody that so there's not an extra gun on the street thanks to CBS News as if this is like, after we just heard 190 thousand stolen guns. As if this was going to make a difference one way or the other I mean it seems to me I keep the gun Yeah, don't reporters keep stuff all the time? I'm not biased. These guys are biased they hate guns and so that's in their report So when you watch news reports on CBS You're listening to people that are giving you bias news Hello I'm just pointing it out. I know it does what our show is about, but... I'll tell you that I know i'm clearly biased about things being full of crap and that comes from a lifetime of working in television and radio mainstream M5M then if we're done with this because I don't think we have much more on this particular topic? That's my last gun clip. A clip! Get a gun clip! Except it would be a magazine

CHAPTER 10 / 42 Discussion

Omarosa Manigault Newman, Mike Pence and 2020 Strategy

Omarosa Manigault Newman made controversial comments about Vice President Mike Pence during her appearance on "Celebrity Big Brother," suggesting he is an extreme religious figure. Speculation suggests Omarosa may be acting as a weaponized agent for Donald Trump to undermine Pence's future political viability or to clear the way for a different running mate in 2020. The narrative frames Pence as "insane" for his religious beliefs, a message that resonates with certain political demographics while signaling a more aggressive immigration stance to the base.

omarosa· mike pence· celebrity big brother· donald trump· 2020 election

42:32 No, a clip is what you put the magazines in. No these are clips! I don't have a magazine to play! Stop! You make me crazy... Let's just presume for a moment even though we've been told and were told every day otherwise maybe let's just say Trump isn't a complete blithering moron maybe he's really a very stable genius lets just presume that for a moment And this is where my bias comes from. The bias that, hey you know I don't know there's a lot of things wrong with the reporting on this particular shooting and we have very little evidence and a lot of questions more so than usual the guy is also alive all of this stuff it's very different. Yes much more entertaining because again he's alive. Much more entertaining

43:18 So we had this Omarosa who was a celebrity, you know apprentice candidate on Donald Trump's show and she is on Big Brother now all of the sudden because yeah that is the path you take from The White House. You get fired from The White House doing God knows whatever you were doing not much as far I am concerned And then you go on Celebrity Big Brother. I'm not going to play the clip because it's very hard to understand and even on Big Brother they had to subtitle it just to make sure we got the information She is there talking to Ross, you know Ross? The flamboyant fashion guy from E! Yeah, Ross was the guy that was promoted and brought to the forefront by Jay Leno and he has been a plague ever since

44:01 Now, as I'm watching this, but I thought wow what a script is what I thought and i just want to read the transcript of what Omarosa said. In the back your mind please take into account that Trump is also thinking about 2020 he definitely...and this is pure conspiracy theory so I'm saying it up front Trump is considering 2020. I believe he would really want a woman as VP pick and he has to have Pence bow out somehow, but definitely with all the Democrats running around saying well if we impeach Trump then we get Pence then Pence would have to do the right thing but maybe he would maybe it wouldn't now here is what Omarosa said

44:46 And she is an actress. She acted on The Apprentice, she acts everywhere and she acts however outrageous she has to be that's her thing and everyone knows it Here's the transcript As bad as y'all think Trump is you would be worried about Pence We would be begging for the days of Trump back if Pence became president He is extreme That's a big trigger word. I'm Christian, I love Jesus but he thinks Jesus tells him to say things! I've seen the plan for illegal immigration it gets more aggressive it's so bad so whether this was intentional or not and I really have you know...I think if it was intentional

45:34 Now, even if it wasn't the message is very clear. Hey you guys who love God and are Christian You know there's a small percent of you who speak in tongues? We're not talking to everybody else Pence is crazy he's a nutjob He's one of the crazy Christians this that's powerful messaging And then to talk to the base we add I've seen the plan about immigration It gets worse it gets more aggressive which is exactly what the base wants to hear I assert, for reasons of conspiratorial thinking that she was weaponized by Trump and this is part of what she's supposed to do. Why was she in the White House in the first place? She really didn't do anything and then she's out and this is the message she sends not about Trump but about Pence! Well...

46:27 And let's just presume that the 10,000... If I was Pence, I'd be irked about this by the way. Yes and if it gets- now the shooting came as a big interrupter but if they could keep this going Pence will have to bow out for the next round because he would be dragged down on the campaign and he will do the right thing He'll have right of first refusal I'm sure but you know how many people in the PR department at CIA? Ten thousand 10, 15 thousand? Well I know that's how many is the Pentagon. I don't know what the CIA number is. Well you can bet if the Pentagon has that CIA has and the CIA is very quiet. The CIA is doing great who's under fire FBI their rivals so they got FBI covered as being a bunch of crazy douchebags or questionable at best and then this

47:21 So you're thinking, what your overall thought is here is that you think they're gonna spend the next two years getting pinched. Pinched! Making pinched sound like he's nuts And thank you Joy Behar, I didn't clip it because it was everywhere that she said oh well if you think Jesus or God is speaking to you thats a mental illness which of course pisses everybody off about Joy Behar but the message, the message is Pence is insane. What is Pence doing? Hold on a second... what is Pence doing in the Trump administration that has Donald all irked about it and he wants to get rid of him

48:02 Or do you think it's not even about Trump? But if it is not, it wouldn't make sense to use Amorosa. It's my belief... that Trump, first of all people are sniffing around Pence because there's all this impeachment talk. Democrats are thinking about Pence Republicans are thinking about Pence There is just a lot of sniffing around Pence period and he has pretty presidential look you know very much He could be a big rival for Trump we know Pence already started his camp...his financing or whatever for possible 2020 run so Trump trying to take him out

48:39 with early, early messaging. And we'll... I mean this is just an identified this as a possibility will have to stay on it will have to pay attention but it really yeah we know how much Dimension B hates the evangelicals and you might as well just say the guy's a nutjob speaking in tongues so that gets that out of the way and I think Trump would be smart and I feel that he probably would rather have a woman as vice president which would be a good start is what I'll probably say Well, it wouldn't be Amorosa. It will definitely... but Amorosa, you know go look at that clip again and she throws in some tears well done

49:22 I really do have very specific doubts. So you think she's an agent provocateur? I believe she may be weaponized and sending a message... Why is that her message, why not Trumps crazy crazy this guy is a moron he's an idiot He hates black people none of that! No hey you don't want Pence he's crazy And Trump gonna do even more on immigration what a mess it does pro him Well, that's a good catch. I mean, I didn't pay any...I did notice all this going on but Big Brother to me is like a piece of dreck that I really detest and the guy Randy what is his name? That guy you mentioned earlier Ross Ross Ross Ross Perot Ross Ross is so annoying! He almost set up to...I don't even know if he was actually gay But he just mocks the gays

CHAPTER 11 / 42 Discussion

AI Facial Recognition, Machine Learning Gaydar Study

Researchers have developed an AI algorithm capable of identifying sexual orientation with high accuracy based on facial features. The study, which utilized thousands of images from dating sites, suggests that physiological differences—such as face width and testosterone markers—can be detected by machine learning. While proponents argue this proves a biological basis for orientation, critics warn of the potential for misuse by authoritarian governments to automate the identification and persecution of marginalized groups.

artificial intelligence· machine learning· facial recognition· gaydar· stanford university

50:22 Yes, he is gay and I have a clip which I mean does he look gay to you? Yeah. He does Okay Remember the story about these Stanford research guys who would come up with a gaydar Remember that? They had AI, machine learning. He showed up on a Candanavian TV to talk about this and it's the same based on the same basic data that we heard about before but I'd never heard any of these scientists never seen any of them But talk about their study. We only looked at the research and concluded, you know read the conclusion and drew whatever was in there for this 80 or 85% accuracy just that machines can do...can pick out someone who is gay based upon how they look

51:11 But anyway, he showed up on a Candian avia news. So you've been setting gaydar for a long time There seems to be more support is actually a thing that's true Yeah And the last 15 years my lab has been showing that people can accurately tell whether someone is gay or straight Just from looking at a photo of their face Wow and so this new study Can you describe how it works using AI artificial intelligence? essentially what the authors of this work did was to take an photos of people from online dating advertisements and feed them into a computer algorithm that it then taught to tell whether someone was gay or straight. Based on that they found that when they tested the algorithm without showing it any images, but it could still accurately tell about 81%. Well this is something that they used. The computer was asked to say which of these

51:57 which man is gay and which man is straight, how would that actually work? And what do you think of how it was done. Right aside from some of the obvious differences with the facial hair there The straight men has a wider face and this isn't surprising at all Straight men would generally have higher levels of testosterone Which during adolescence would cause their faces to actually become wider when their bones are growing. Well, a gay gene I'm not so sure. But there's the evidence in favor of their being a biological basis for sexual orientation is incontrovertible at this point These are all from a dating site that's how they got the faces thousands of faces Is there something particular about a dating site? Does that worry you in any way it is just faces from a dating site

52:50 Yeah, I mean certainly photos that we post on dating sites aren't necessarily how we represent ourselves every day in the world. We take a lot of time to think about how we want to look on a dating website. We want to look attractive, of course and that can definitely change the photo someone chooses That said at the same time research out of my lab has shown it doesn't matter whether we use a Facebook photo if we use a photo that we took in the laboratory or if we take a photo from someones high school yearbook even The rates of accuracy for telling whether someone is gay or straight are pretty much the same. You're a gay man, you've done all this research... By the way I think that is incorrect politically speaking. I believe you should say you're a man experiencing gayness.

53:32 uh... the rates of accuracy for telling whether someone is gay or straight are pretty much the same you're a gay man, you've done all this research. Are-are you concerned how bad actors say, ya know, that country of Uganda which kills gay men? How this could possibly be misused? What's that got to do with the story?! I think it was leading into another country definitely i mean i think to some extent you know up government like uganda or in a Chechnya could take- Chechnya!? But never is Chechnya super anti-gay? Are they killing people in Chechnya? Not that I know of, but it's Muslim. You're a gay man... There you go! ...you've done all this research are you concerned how bad actors say, you know the country of Uganda which... I mean he could have said Saudi Arabia we could have you know said use any number of other countries. Chechnya... ...bills gay men are you how this could possibly be misused

54:24 Definitely, I mean to some extent a government like Uganda or Chechnya could take this information and automate sort of identifying gay people and rounding up and incarcerating them. And that's the concern we should all have but at the same time it is not necessarily concerned with technology as much as the people who use it So was this study good? Or is it a good thing that its out I think in a way it is. I think it helps to agitate some of the policy discussions around the protections that we need for social categories like sexual orientation When you look at a lot of rhetoric that comes out of some politicians' mouths

55:03 and other places outside of Canada, you hear this argument that people shouldn't be... they don't need to be protected in terms of their sexual orientation because no one knows whether they're gay or straight until they say so. These data suggest otherwise and it supports a lot about what my lab has been showing for a long time now. Algos! Algos! And more algos! We're all gonna die! Yeah Now, we had a clip about 45 years ago. It was from one of the TV shows when I was doing more clipping from dramas because they were so funny and it was about the guys that studies have shown that

55:39 you can identify gay people from their photo, which just predates this guy's study. But apparently there were previous studies done on this but it wasn't a machine learning thing it was about people actually being able to identify. See if you could find that clip... What would that have been about? Like gay face, gay faces or It would've been a clip probably from one of the like SVU One of the Law and Order series or CSI. Gay faces, gay identifiers... No, cyber? No, no. That's too new. Gay face? Gay face would probably be it. I got nothing with gay face

56:30 Gay anything gay anything well There's a lot of gay Clips, but let's say wow yeah. Well it also gets guy and chichi Khan to be honest so Obama space after the after the why and that would eliminate them from happening I Don't anyway what is your point? Oh look? What is your point about it? Oh nothing? I just thought it'd be a good clip to follow up with But, okay. No sorry I can't...I wonder if you could fool the thing by making a gayish face? Well for sure we now have scientific proof that such a thing exists A gay-ish face! Well i'm..I think it's all very creepy It is totally creepy! Very... Algos Yeah yeah we're gonna see... This is what Hitler needed You know, you're Jewish get out of here Get on the train

CHAPTER 12 / 42 Discussion

Podcast Monetization, The Daily and Pod Save America

Popular podcasts "The Daily" from the New York Times and "Pod Save America" are moving to traditional media platforms NPR and HBO, respectively. This shift is viewed as a failure of the independent podcast monetization model and a move toward more conservative, guarded content production. Critics argue that the transition to mainstream networks will ruin the "loose" and authentic nature of these shows as they adhere to corporate broadcasting rules.

the daily· pod save america· hbo· npr· podcasting

57:28 Yeah, this is the problem. We're having this this just hit the direction is bad. It's just bad I wanted to mention Two podcasts that are very popular that are about to be ruined why well? I'll tell you what they are first the daily podcast That is The New York Times Daily Podcast oh, that's a hot one right yes and pod save America Both of these are about to be ruined and I will explain why. But Pod Save America, which one is it? I know that one but what is it from? Pod Save America is John Lovett, Jon Favreau... These are the speechwriters. Oh right right this is all Hollywood douchebags Well its Obama's speechwriters Right! Those guys. And douchebags Yes well hello! Now the problem that they're

58:20 It's so sad because I listen to the daily, I've listened to Pod Save America. These are these are...I listened to them because people are loose you know there's journos talking like that. Yeah right your theory is well founded yes oh i'm just on a podcast well I hate my mother! Well, the New York Times is going to go to NPR, The Daily Podcast and Pod Save America's coming to HBO. This will ruin both of these shows and it is also proof that You can't monetize the network. They can't make money doing podcasts because they are afraid to embrace any of the newer models that are really old models that just seem to work well if you adhere to some simple rules, so they're going big time. They want to get

59:14 advert the radio advertising dollars and they want to get their HBO money and The HBO will see I mean HBO obviously has rules, but there are a lot less conservative than NPR It's going to ruin those shows gonna ruin here Yeah They do have not because people can or can't say things People will be on guard and they won't be as loose as they were. And that's the beauty of it That's exactly the problem and it's exactly why we chose a different model And that is why I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C, where the c stands for can't come up with anything for see today. Dvorak! You had a list In the morning to you Mr Adam Curry in the morning of all ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there Yes in the morning too Comic strip blogger he brought us the artwork for episode 1007 tactical frustration

CHAPTER 13 / 42 Discussion

No Agenda Art, Tactical Frustration and Hope Hicks

The artwork for Episode 1007, titled "Tactical Frustration," features a stylized depiction of Hope Hicks using the iconic "Hope and Change" color palette. Created by "ComicstripBlogger," the piece was selected from the No Agenda Art Generator for its simplicity and effective use of filters. The show continues to encourage producers to submit digital art for use in newsletters, show notes, and merchandise.

hope hicks· tactical frustration· no agenda art· graphic design

1:00:15 Just a great piece of the Black Widow herself, Hope Hicks in the Obama hope and change colors as he used for his first campaign. We all know the one And it was, there were a number of good ones. There were some people that had Hope Hicks as the black spider coming spinning in the web and dropping down but this one just the simplicity of it all was beautiful It's very very good piece I'm sure didn't take all that much work because you got filters for this stuff You just run through it and get that poster I think its something online Yeah thats what I mean Just run it through that But we appreciate That is great choice Well done comic strip blogger Your Slavic brother John! You love him

1:01:01 Thank you, Dvorak! You finally chose good artwork. And thank you to all of our artists... People don't realize that actually is his voice. It's one of the few imitations that Adam nails. It's spot on. Thank you very much ComicstripBlogger and everyone else who uploads their art diligently to noagendaartgenerator.com This is where you can do that and we choose it for the artwork We choose it for newsletters for pre-show announcements even on t-shirts mugs hats etc at no agenda shop calm with the artists get a piece of The action Noah Jenna art generator comm thank you, and then this pressure came in oh Maybe I should grab that while your might not be about idea. Well your chat in there First let's say thanks some donors so right off the top he only sent it to you of course

CHAPTER 14 / 42 Discussion

Management Style, Adam Curry's Punctuality Enforcement

An anecdote from the Mevio era describes Adam Curry's strict enforcement of punctuality, where he would personally monitor the entrance and question employees arriving after 8:30 AM. This management style was intended to address a culture where staff arrived at their own discretion without guidance. The story highlights the tension between startup flexibility and the operational requirements of running a business.

mevio· management· punctuality· office culture· startup

1:01:48 Oh no, I got it. No, I got it. I'm sorry. I was wrong You always think the worst and you jump right to- Well...you know why? Because typically Eric is pretty bad Okay well that's a good way to keep an employee By the way this is normal method that Adam manages I remember one time, I'll give you an example One time..I don't know why you did this but you just did it So we're at Mevio And even though you don't really care much about this stuff, as you say. We're outside in the front where people casually come into work because it's all coding and something so they come in but Adam had his watch and everybody who comes in after 830 he grilled them about why they were late! It was the funniest thing I've ever seen. No no I didn't grill them I'd say hey thanks for showing up

1:02:44 Yeah, it was on the snide. There was a culture at the time of people just showing up whenever they felt they wanted to show up Well, they were never seemingly informed that they were never given the right kind of guidance. Oh Okay, no guidance all right fine And I believe John listen to me all I know is he has one job make the spreadsheet work Catch the birth you brought it up catch the birthdays and you know It takes a lot of time to be adding things during the show it's not all that cute anyway, I was highly amused by them by the

CHAPTER 15 / 42 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Valentine's Day Promotions

The show acknowledged several high-value donations, including a $700 contribution from Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch and a $333.33 donation from Dame Nurse Caitlin. A Valentine's Day promotion saw limited participation, leading to a discussion on the general lack of interest in commercial holidays among the listener base. Donors requested various "karmas" and "de-douchings" in exchange for their financial support of the value-for-value model.

donations· value-for-value· valentines day· lower slobovia· cancer karma

1:03:23 Calling people out for being late. Sorry I didn't you don't apologize Criticizing you, I'm running a business here It was one of your lines running a business here that is my line so literally Hitler yes So here we go with this or an anonymous of dog patch in lower Slobovia He is back our buddy comes it was 700 bucks which seems to be his current number. As always, thanks for the hard work you two do and all the producers I continue to rely on you and the producers to stay aware and have a balanced view of the world when reading a foreign source i'm confident at the viewpoint i am reading when reviewing domestic information you help identify domestic biases in uncover facts by reviewing multiple reports on the same event to get closer to the truth we try

1:04:26 Listeners, don't let the market ride distract you from donating. Well it's already back up to almost where it was. Yeah. Hell after such a long bull run everyone should have a few extra dollars to donate I agree. Volatility in markets offers considerable opportunity if you know what you are doing, arbitraging information is also offered offers opportunity which is why your show is so important to me it's remarkable how biased information leads the poor decisions by the smart and sophisticated people Have a good Lincoln's and Washington birthday, and happy Valentine's Day. NJNK. Thank you very much Sir Animas of Dogpatch in Lower Slobovia Yeah he is actually Baron but uh... I just call him sir. I call him what he calls himself. Baron Nice! Thank You 700 is his number we still haven't figured out why Well it used to be 8 So 7? Maybe he is buying the dip maybe he's um shit

1:05:33 Maybe it's, uh... You put these numbers together in some sort of code. Dame Nurse Caitlin in 7th Springs North Carolina 333 dot 33 All I need is a giant fuck cancer My mom lost her battle two weeks ago at only 55 years old and I miss her every day T Y F Y C Oh, I'm sorry nurse Caitlin We're gonna give an f for Cancer Karma You've got karma. Sorry to hear that. Yay! Sucks. Am I on the right spreadsheet here? Hold on a second... Next one i have is Andre Haas. Yeah, yeah, I just had the wrong one The funny thing is the notes on just the CSV don't... they truncate in very nice spots

1:06:30 But these are the real notes. Andre Haas, 21817. Thank you John and Anna for putting together an excellent show twice a week! That's where it ends on the other spreadsheet which is great I was thinking wow these people wrote nice short notes But no. Yeah, but no this donation commemorates my first anniversary with my wonderful wife Karen who's also an avid listener all I asked for is a double de-douching and John's fireman hose story the one with the background music was that which one is that? I don't know which one it's not really a clip You've been de-douche you want to double de-douche

1:07:12 What was it I don't remember that end of show clip no, okay. It was day was a oh I Remember yeah, but I don't remember when it was what the context was No, I know what it was. First of all it was like a gave the story then somebody turned into a tune for end of show Yeah and I was saying things that you were like in any great comes up behind me and yeah It was lewd. It was very lewd Thanks to you because you got a dirty mind I do uh But I do and you've got a dirty mine anyone feel beyond time that's on your gravestone. That's right come early

1:07:55 Come early. Okay, onward! We can't do that because it's not a clip. Come on, come on give me a ding for that. That was good I'll look for it during the show but I don't think we can find it It's not a clip It's a great end of show clip for sure It might be yeah...it's funny if you got a dirty mind. Laurent Biro in Besançon, France, 21418 and he's one of the two people that came in with the Valentine's Day donation. This is our... That's how that promotion went and I started thinking about this. I remember every Valentine's day we try to do this and nobody cares. Nobody cares about Valentine's day in this crowd

1:08:43 It's always a flop. Yeah, why is that? I celebrate you know I cooked last night. I did all rose petals the card Rose petals all over the bed oh yeah, oh yeah Romantic You know little little bit something to drink Just got it. You've been just making a mess and made scallops with a chestnut sauce Scallops with a chestnut sauce. That came from Red Pantry or? No, no I found it online and like you found it online was still fresh oh Laurent Bureau he says happy Valentine's Day to the love of my life requesting goat karma for her and for the show You've got Karma

1:09:39 Craig Porter is the other winner to 1418. He's one of the two people they got mentioned in a newsletter Yes when I knew still under came through like wow it's gonna be a long list of people because that was the ideas would you that? You would be able to do your your happy Valentine in In the newsletter, and I was like Wow Did you just do a little summary or was that it and it turns out that was it yeah too But again, like I said, every year this is a huge mistake people make when it comes to marketing. I should be putting no effort into this! Craig Porter 2 of 14 18 Council Bluffs Iowa. I think i'm just a romantic. Happy Valentine's Day to you John and Adam He gives us the valentine. May have a simple de-douching thank you. You've been de-douched

CHAPTER 16 / 42 Discussion

Producer Credits, Dutch Donations and CD-ROM History

Producers from the Netherlands and various U.S. locations contributed to Episode 1008, with some seeking "half-knight" status through repeated donations. One donor, Gary Marquart, reminisced about the early days of CD-ROM technology in Wayzata, Minnesota, while others requested investigations into the Seth Rich case. The segment included personal notes regarding family health struggles and humorous call-outs of non-donating listeners.

netherlands· cd-rom· wayzata· knighthood· seth rich

1:10:35 All right, hold on a second. Let me get the sheet out because he sent a note in... Who? John Kramer from Haarlem? Well, Jana. Jana Kramer from Netherlands. I hate to correct you on your pronunciation. Okay. What? No! But i'm not familiar with Jana. Please accept this letter in addition to our donation of $200 and 34 cents for show 1008 I don't have to read any call-outs for the jingles. By the way, this guy has to be Dutch because listen to this... I want to read this please accept this letter in addition to our donation of $200 and 34 cents for show 1008 on here it says two thousand two hundred dollars and thirty three cents but he wants you to throw in the extra penny oh very dutch

1:11:32 Isn't that right? Very Dutch of him. Okay, yeah. That deal is only for $999.99! I'll throw in another one just so we have another one in the kitty. Oh wow he's rolling in dough. Fabulous My wife and I feel happy relieved vindicated proud and understood finally after discovering the no agenda show We want to thank you two gentlemen profoundly for your fine work and also extend our gratitude to all the producers of this show. No Agenda is much more than the greatest podcast in the universe, it's a community and a beacon of hope in this fucked up ass world! How about a Netherlands meetup? Special shout out to Illuminati and Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch coincidentally giving us the same episode. Nice

1:12:21 I don't always agree with your point of view and goat-killing ways, but always enjoy your letters. Goat killing ways? Okay sorry And he wants a jobs and cat book karma. What kind of Karma? Cat book cat CAT book I guess one of the what maybe somebody's done a cat book no Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for job You've got karma Oh

1:12:59 Brad Horwitz 200. Yeah, he sent me a long note about this oh it seems to be here okay good yeah it wasn't in the other one that's funny I am proposing to my girl I said it's amazing how much extra information is in the file as opposed to the CSV. It's just fabulously amazing It's amazing to me. I'm proposing to my girlfriend of 13 years later today, oh okay well this is interesting he's proposing to his girlfriend of 13 years the girlfriend of 13 years is gonna do it later today on Valentine's Day that was when this note came in right? I could have put this in The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel but who reads that rag a bunch of Associated Press crap

1:13:45 I'd much rather share this with my fellow No Agenda producers, Crackpot and Buzzkill. I will have a shout out to her, Abby Venske, myself, Brad Horwitz and most importantly our engagement in this newsletter if I'm not too late." Oh he wanted to be in the newsletter. Oh darn. Let me just explain how I did that. I did it just download the spreadsheet and look for 21418 And that's who got in, there was no other... He didn't hold to the rules. That's why he didn't get it. I have the rules! You have to be a rules man you gotta follow the rules baby

1:14:26 Anyway, he's been listening since show 200 loves the show we both need to be de-douche You've been de-douched Harsh but yeah rules in the world so you got it You've been de-douched rule followers that'll echo on that one was a deal I don't know You guys have been deconstructing at an elite level. I like that. Elite! We're elite, we're elite-level deconstructors. We are elite. He says it's at an elite level as of late and is much, mucho appreciated. Okay Brad well good luck with your proposal. He says douchebag callout?

1:15:16 Did you not have that? Nope. Uh, Nick Groobie? DOOSHBAG! And he has some jingles... Jobs and marriage karma Yes well of course you need that Shapeshifting Jew LGY and chemtrails And last but not least, Gary Marquart.

1:15:59 In Wysatta. Is he not a sir by now? He's been around for awhile, hasn't he? I'll call him Sir Gary. Sir Gary. He used to be at a CD-ROM company in Wysatta. I think it was called Wysatta or something... They did all those old early CD-ROMs where they had like a dictionary on one and weird pictures on another. They had hundreds of these things! He says no, he's actually half-knight. Was it CD-ROM or CDI? Remember that? Yes nobody bought CDI. That was Phillips! Yeah that was a dumb idea. No he is not a knight so its not Sir Gary because he says right here this my third donation I believe that gets me close to being a half-knight

1:16:45 Could have read a lot for value is a fantastic model He writes and no agenda is the only source of truth above the earth's crust these days. Ooh Yeah, I like being above the crust yeah you do I truly mean that my only complaint here we go Is that you don't use the word? Disgusting enough in describing the m5m why why would we know that it is Well, he also has it misspelled. He says disgusting disgust dings disgusting discuss that is some disgusting He's got the digs gut yeah Okay, oh yes no anyway I Think in my is cuz I say did this this story is disgusting? I think I say it a lot you do I think he's really killing me That's okay

1:17:38 Please give me some jobs, Karma since I retired and offered mine up for the team. You bet. Jobs... Oh sorry? No play it! Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs you've got karma. Listen i don't get this he finishes up he finishes the sentence says please give me some jobs Karma retired and offered mine up for the team I think the guy is working out of his mom's basement I have no idea. I don't know what he's talking about, i'd like an F cancer please from my beautiful daughter Jennifer mother of four who is having a bilateral mastectomy yuck her prognosis looks pretty good though after surgery but f cancer anyway we'll give him that. He goes on so this is cancer okay

1:18:36 It's all the entertaining so I can read it. I don't think I asked for a de-douching last time in my first donation So, I think he's asking for it. Lastly Yes, lastly I'd like to hit my son John and his buddy St FU in the mouth for putting me into onto this show listing every single episode and never dropping one blasted dime douchebags Keep up the great work and find out who did Seth Rich. Okay, we're on it! We'll get right back to you. The elites above the crust of the earth baby. Yeah well that... Did you give us de-douching? Just to make sure. You've been dedouched Alright that's good. That time were through. That's our group of producers executive producers for show 1008

CHAPTER 17 / 42 Discussion

Unilever Digital Advertising, Brand Safety Concerns

Unilever's Chief Marketing Officer, Keith Weed, announced that the company will no longer invest in digital platforms that fail to protect children or promote social division. With a $9 billion total budget, Unilever is prioritizing "brand-safe" environments and pressuring Google and Facebook to improve content moderation. This move reflects a growing corporate dissatisfaction with the lack of control over where advertisements appear relative to controversial user-generated content.

unilever· keith weed· google· youtube· digital advertising

1:19:37 Yes, and thank you for being part of a decennia one decade long experiment of the value-for-value model I'm so happy we did this not because well because we get to do the show that's the number one thing We just get to do the show because we can pay rent and pay for our stuff And get it done and and be there and produce what you hand us basically give us all kinds of great ideas unlike if this is I'm just tracking it Unlike Unilever who does not believe in the old model, well they do but they don't want to deal with it when it comes to the YouTubes or the Facebooks or the Googles. Chief Marketing Officer Keith Weed of Unilever now Unilever they own some of the largest packaged goods brands in the world They owned Dove They owned what else did they have John? I think that's it No! no...no..they got tons

1:20:32 Yeah, they're big. They're like Procter & Gamble. They are the competitor. Yeah, semi-Dutch company UK company he came out and said Unilever will not invest in platforms or environments that do not protect our children or which create division in society and promote anger or hate We will try Google. Yes, we will prioritize investing only in responsible platforms that are committed to creating a positive impact in society So they are not going to spend there I believe they spend three billion dollars a year on digital advertising of their nine price 9 billion dollar budget and They're sick of it then they don't want to be associated with non-brand safe content which is completely understandable from their point of view

1:21:19 Completely. And I want to say this to these advertisers who advertise on Google or YouTube's, you might think they've got these rigid things so a lot of these guys that make money off of the YouTubes have gone brand safe. Well they've always wanted to be brand safe. Well a lot of them are brand safe anyway but I would advise you to take a look over on the sidebar and the other suggested videos that are racked up. Are they brand safe? Very good, very astute Mr. Dvorak! Good way to underline... Right because most people click on this and then the next thing you know they're clicking on one of those other ones and that's associated with your brand That's right So be wary of this brand You're just a troublemaker

CHAPTER 18 / 42 Discussion

Deepfakes and Video Manipulation, Ringo Starr Hoax

The emergence of "deepfake" technology on Reddit allows for the seamless stitching of celebrity faces onto different bodies, including in pornographic content. This technology is evolving toward cloning voices and synchronizing mouth movements to create convincing but fake videos of public figures like Barack Obama. The discussion also touched on the recurring "Paul is Dead" conspiracy theory and a recent hoax involving Ringo Starr allegedly confirming the rumor.

deepfakes· ringo starr· paul mccartney· video manipulation· reddit

1:22:14 What are you gonna do? I'm just pointing out the obvious. So, the system is... I dug a hole the other day and I was on some- I went back to the Paul is dead thing! Every five years I go into that. I love that email that you sent me. Hey man did you see this come in like Ringo Starr saying that... Yeah, Ringo Starr says Paul died at 66. Yes, I've been on this since the story first broke in 2015. It's circular All this stuff is coming back. Same with the cross-dressing dudes at the NSA, who knows? It could just be stock footage from the last time Who knows? Hey we're bored We're not getting enough publicity to run this story again Have you seen that... I'm just gonna close a segment but have you seen that technology where you can take

1:23:00 Or at least it's all there's a whole reddit subreddit on it You take a porn movie and then you take a famous actor or actress and then this stuff stitches her face Seamlessly onto the porn actress. Yeah, but buzzkill jr Is all over this to an extreme where he can actually do half of this stuff And we're talking about two different things There's a bunch of stuff going on in this community And just stitching the face on a porn star is not the real key. What everyone's really aiming for is cloning of voice, stitching of face on somebody else and having the voice with mouth working properly say you put Obama and have him say a bunch of crap he never said

1:23:52 A lot is possible with video, that's what I'm saying. It's getting worse! You just can't believe your own eyes anymore. No. That's why we have boots on the ground and we love hearing from you We gotta find out about Venice. Forget shootings, school shootings... What's up with Venice? I think I ought to rebook my vacation This is my cruise. We'll have another show up coming up on Sunday, another Show Day you never know what happens in the meantime I'm sure there will be a lot of new stuff coming out please remember us at devorak.org slash N-A and while your at it you can always say hey ya know what? I got a formula! I wanna propagate it Our formula is this we go out...we hit people in the mouth Shut Up! Shut Up Slave Alright

CHAPTER 19 / 42 Discussion

Dick Durbin, Low-Skilled Labor and Slave Narratives

Senator Dick Durbin argued on "Morning Joe" that the U.S. economy relies on immigrants for low-skilled jobs in agriculture and meatpacking that citizens are unwilling to perform. This rhetoric has drawn comparisons to historical justifications for slave labor, suggesting a political divide similar to the pre-Civil War era. The discussion explored the cultural dynamics of restaurant kitchens and the impact of H-1B visas on technical wages in Silicon Valley.

dick durbin· immigration· low-skilled labor· slave labor· civil war

1:24:53 Where to now? Well, I was watching a clip of Dick Durbin. Then he is Democrat... Is he Senator or Congressman? Senator Dick Durbin. Senator Dick Durbin then I uh..I was running out of time this morning. I tried to find the clip of him saying it on the floor of the Senate instead i got a clip of him saying virtually the same thing on the morning Joe show Unfortunately, this clip has a little audio watermark in it. You know It's like this is brought to you by media blue so it's very yeah doing that now Yeah if you use the software without paying for it it came from somewhere else I didn't know I didn't use it obviously But I want but I desperately wanted to get this clip so I can talk about something here He is talking about

1:25:44 low-skilled immigrants. Let's talk Senator about immigration reform yesterday the president spoke about immigration reform we just had Tom Cotton on but we want to ask you first of all whether do you have any objection to the first part of the bill which is focusing on the skill sets of immigrants coming to the United States and maybe changing the ratio so we help drive the economy, bring better jobs to this country. Get the technical know-how here that some companies claim are lacking by just working with the ratio so there's a higher ratio of higher skilled immigrants coming to America

1:26:25 Joe, don't forget that we know that we need some higher skills which are not in this country to grow our economy. But we also need and have immigrants taking low-skilled jobs there are no long lines of people waiting to pick fruit in the United States lining up to work in slaughterhouses or poultry processing plants, or working behind the- in the kitchen and in the restaurants of Chicago and other great cities. Immigrants take these jobs they're tough they're dirty they work long and hard and they don't get paid a lot of money so if we're gonna dry up that source of labor who will replace it? Our birth rate is coming down We need to make sure we have a workforce that's there Okay So it was understandable enough Yeah you want to say something

1:27:08 Well, give me what you take because I got a couple of complaints about this. Well here's my thinking and this is...this goes back to something very old stuff we talked about which is fractal theory Here we have a situation with Democrats want to bring in what I would say is essentially slave labor They really want this cheap people Brown dark-skinned people to come in and do the shit. They don't want to do that's what he's saying He says exactly what he said Then you have Republicans oddly who are like now, we should abolish this slavery We shouldn't have this happening this way

1:27:49 Is this not am I crazy or are we about to repeat history? We have the Democrats who love their slaves Republicans who want to stop the slave trade and then we wind up in an honest-to-god civil war just like it happened The first time yeah, but it's about the Mexicans so nobody cares that does Think about it though. It's kidding. Okay. Just kidding. It seems similar Yeah, I think it's well I know you've studied Civil War. Yeah, i'm not saying it's that... It's a little different. There are some similarities but it's not like so much so that there is going to be... Civil war became the battle between states that felt one way and states that felt the other. Like we don't have red states blue state? We have all of the same elements! But the Ebola States use Mexican labor if they can

1:28:47 A couple of things I just wanted to clear up. One, the Mexicans have taken over the back end of restaurants but that's only recent. There's been Mexicans in the restaurant... Mexican-Mexicans by the way we're not talking about Americans and they get in there and then they kind of get all whitey out of there. They intimidate them because I knew a guy that worked at the back of a restaurant he says once the Mexicans get in you can't get him out And so there's a problem. It's like all the Italian restaurants here all have Mexicans in the kitchen? Yeah, and they'll be there forever! Damn! Rizmo I need some Italians! Well you probably do need some Italians at an Italian restaurant

1:29:31 I think Mexicans do a lot of great work in most kitchens and they also when they're running a Mexican restaurant the worst situation you know these ethnic foods tend to be better if they're prepared by the ethnic people. And i don't want to sound like a racist about it but as well no stop, stop! You're making a very good point why is it that some woman who's white gets berated for having a oriental food truck, like you know that's cultural appropriation. You've got to stop that's no good you can't do this yet it's okay when Mexicans are culturally appropriating someone else's food yeah it's as good as its hypocrisy

1:30:16 In fact, you find this in other arenas especially out here on the West Coast where you have Chinese or you have the Cambodian general who took over all of the donut places. What's a donut got to do with Cambodia? So all the donuts are running, and the first thing they do is they cheapen the ingredients. They make the donuts so they don't taste right because it's the same thing where Asian culture is like well I can get flour cheaper than that why are you using this weird flour from Rhode Island? It makes no sense! This is cheapest flour we can get now the doughnuts taste funny I remember we had a fish and chips chain out here. Besides H-Salt, there was the thing called Rhodes. And it was about five of them and they were bought up by some Chinese group and in the end... This is not how you cook fishes! I think that's first thing they said when they got there. This is not the way we cook fish! What are we? This is wrong! So they changed the batter or they change the fish itself and then fish was no good anymore. We're straying away from the topic

1:31:19 I know, but I got a great. Oh anyway didn't know it's not complete the other thing is that what is Durbin talking about when he says There are some skills we don't have in this country that we need to import Yeah What is specifically is he talking about? Not at that and that also that I know what he's talking about The Indians from India will come in on h1 bees and work in Silicon Valley at half the price Yes That's what he's talking about Who is he funded by I'll bet you. I'll bet you've got lots of Silicon Valley money probably I don't know what he's sorry, I'm sorry go back to your point original point was about kids on my lawn see In the days of slavery from what? I understand what I've read it You know it was more like hey okay slavery was much more commonplace in the world at the time It's still quite common in many places

1:32:18 Like, yeah we got slaves and these slaves they do the work we don't want to do. It wasn't like oh let's go grab people from Africa be assholes and it was a different thinking is a different time not trying to make it sound right. And certainly not just say pretty much the same thing! We just need cheap labor for this shit we don't want to do I mean except yeah well maybe they'll be free... Maybe Well, I know what your point is. To me it has shades of just history repeating itself It's just me probably No, I'm sure you're not the only guy who thinks that way. There are probably others Not just you Alright onward to the next topic Whatcha got?

CHAPTER 20 / 42 Discussion

Dianne Feinstein, 1990s Immigration Stance

Archival footage from the 1990s shows Senator Dianne Feinstein taking a hardline stance on illegal immigration, citing the $2 billion cost to California's welfare and education systems. Feinstein argued that Mexico must enforce its own borders and that the U.S. cannot serve as a welfare system for its neighbor. This historical perspective highlights how significantly the Democratic Party's rhetoric on border security has shifted over the last two decades.

dianne feinstein· nafta· illegal immigration· california· welfare

1:33:04 Well, he says you did talk about immigration and the bitch in a moment right there that thing I have a kind of an add-on clip. This is Dianne Feinstein in the 1990s. I'm pulling one of your things In the 1990s, talking about immigration. You come to these two borders you have to remember a couple of things in Mexico there is no welfare there is no AFDC There is no SSI There is no Medicaid There is no Social Security There is no Medicare and there's a 58 cent an hour minimum wage Mexico does nothing to enforce its border

1:33:43 It is my view that if we are going to have a North American free trade agreement, that Mexico must do its share. Because the day when America could be the welfare system for Mexico is gone. We simply can't afford it and And I think you've seen the figures to state and local governments of what the cost is. It's over two billion dollars in California alone, and i have those figures if you want them in specific... In my purse! That's why the issue has now joined. Wow that's new. You won't hear that anymore

1:34:23 Maybe in my attache case, but in my purse! Specific. In my purse and that's why the issue is now joined with two million illegal immigrants It's a competition for space whether the space is a job The space as a home A place and classroom it becomes a competition for space This is a country that's based on immigration and we all know that and yet at times you become so overtaxed You have to concentrate on saying the people who should be here are those who come legally at this time And we've got it for the time being enforced our borders And there yeah, I just hate Trump. That's all it's about Trump. Hey Trump. Just hey Trump, I guess

CHAPTER 21 / 42 Discussion

PyeongChang Olympics, NBC Ratings and Social Justice

The PyeongChang Winter Olympics have faced criticism for their broadcast format, with NBC opting for live coverage that some viewers find unengaging. The network has also integrated social justice themes, such as the "#SeeHer" movement, which focuses on the accurate portrayal of women in media. Ratings concerns are compounded by a perceived lack of focus on traditional fan favorites like figure skating in favor of newer sports like snowboarding.

olympics· pyeongchang· nbc· title ix· see her

1:35:18 Have you been watching the Olympics? I've watched, i've only watched the highlights sometimes when I can catch them. I think they made an epic mistake but just an epic mistake okay because it's live because they can show it live The time zone works out very well for 6 p.m that's when they start their first competitions They're not really doing a selection They are just rolling at all alive With the consequence that, yeah sure I want to see Sean White win. It was fantastic. I didn't need to see 15 people go first in prime time whereas all i really want to see is the ice skate, the figure skating obviously it's very problematic

1:36:03 I think it's hurting their ratings. I haven't looked at it, but It's got to be hurting the ratings because they're not doing a good programmatic job of showing things people want to see in prime time Who the hell do they think their audience is? Their audience in prime time is not kids who are into snowboarding There's going to be people who want to see figure skating Well that is like one of the complaints The figure skating thing itself is a complaint I've been watching as you know...I'm a sports enthusiast And I listen to all the sports chats, sports talk shows. I listened to the gym Rome. My favorite show is Pardon The Interruption with those two grouches and I listened to all the other stuff too and everybody seems to be down on the Olympics

1:36:55 But it's almost like a trend. It's not even like, and you're just expressing it. You're expressing some sort of an underlying collective unconscious feeling that's going on I'm noticing with the sports talk guys they just go, I don't care about this is boring, this is terrible, I don't like figure skating either. Here's another thing every time there's an event then we have the winners they get up on the podium And do they drape the medals over their neck? No, they all go to stupid teddy bear. This is baffling to me The medal...the actual hanging of the medal on the athlete's neck is not shown They get on the podium They play the anthem The official comes up gives them all like a white tiger which is the symbol But not the medal

1:37:52 I don't know about that. Yeah, I do! I've been watching. Apparently you have been watching because i haven't been watching. So I don't know this... Okay. I watched a couple of highlights if I hear something and still haven't be able to see the luge girl crash. Oh, I haven't seen the luge girl crash? Darn That's our American superstar luge girl and one man luge, and she's on it. She crashes And almost kills her so no I wanted to see that I mean I think any other one is when the early figure skating the first day of it? I don't get I didn't get this all our guys fell everyone was everybody fell on their butts And I just to me as a highly entertaining. I think it's very I like NASCAR too, and I don't like it for the crashes But the crashes are

1:38:36 entertaining and this is entertaining. They watch the there's nothing funny watching something called mile a minute and then go crash into the wall and right through it well that's why you watch like in a way maybe that's why people like snowboarding because it's very there's a lot of nastiness that happens yeah Anyway, I enjoyed the couple's figure skating and thought the Chinese just had a breathtaking performance. I did clip something though from the coverage which is a constant theme on NBC. To the newer stars of these games you got Khloe Kim earning her gold from the summer games in Rio. The performance there over 50% of the gold medals were awarded to women in their sports and here already women off to great start two out four of the gold medals went to women

1:39:21 And we talk about this entire concept of young ladies involved in sports. Think of Title IX, the generations of Title IX and now with multiple generations of women's athletes and coaches as well. On today show tomorrow there will be more conversation here for hashtag see her maybe you can talk a little bit about that? See Her is a movement by advertisers really to portray women at accurately and girls accurately in the media. So it's a movement that has really caught on over the last year, Katie Couric and Bechter Goodfriend is on the advisory board so it's a movement that you're seeing really catch on and in fact they created a really special salute to the women of Team USA take a look. From supporters of hashtag see her are AT&T supporting the accurate portrayal of women and girls in media PNG proud sponsor of moms

1:40:11 USAA insurance banking and investments tailored for the military community Verizon, the most awarded network ever There you go! As predicted all social justice. For the advertisers now see her Well, I missed that one. Yeah men you know you can you can amen don't win sawed-off If you're winning man then you're just a misogynist Well, they when Sean White won the first question or one of the first questions he was asked from I think ABC News guy. Hey what about your sexual harassment thing? Oh geez! And now it's time for your Sexual Harassment Update Yes update us

CHAPTER 22 / 42 Discussion

Sexual Harassment Updates, Tom Ashbrook Dismissal

Olympic gold medalist Sean White faced immediate questioning regarding past sexual harassment allegations following his victory, illustrating the pervasiveness of the "Me Too" movement. Meanwhile, NPR's Tom Ashbrook was officially dismissed following investigations into a "pattern of over-the-top screaming" and inappropriate physical contact with staff. While some actions did not technically violate sexual harassment policies, the cumulative behavior was deemed non-conducive to a professional environment.

tom ashbrook· npr· sexual harassment· me too· sean white

1:41:06 That was the first I didn't have didn't get a clip of it. I could have but it's like he not only hounds him about it And then Sean says well, I don't want to talk about gossip. I want to talk about my Performance and then he says well you have to turn it goes on and on it But this is about his case against his drummer in this band Soon as it becomes rock-and-roll there's a bunch of bickering band members and one of them is the sexist Yeah Hey This isn't news Oh rock okay? Yeah Rock and roll band member is a sexist against his female band member. Okay, this is really a shocker now I do have the guy goes and starts grilling him And then Sean has to come on on the today show or the next day good morning America about it there too No with he has to apologize for using the word gossip what you know this no oh

1:41:57 Yeah, he comes on the morning show and apologizes for I wish I could. Sorry Oh because you have to believe the women no matter what? I get it Yes of course yeah You got to believe all women yes see her has been already was a court case that was settled last May Why is it even in the conversation anymore? It was dredged up Yeah There's no winners No, do you remember there was allegations against Tom Ashbrook from on point from NPR? Yeah. And we talked about that and well I there may be an explanation for what you'll hear in this report but he has been dismissed He is fired done toast So what new information came out as a result of the investigation that was released today into Tom Ashbrook's behavior Was there

1:42:48 anything new. I really like this voice, it's something new from NPR. There? Well so we didn't see the actual reports Dip some of the... Anything new there? Well so we didn't see the actual reports Dip some of the original complainants and Tom Ashbrook saw the reports but i haven't seen them and don't believe they've been shared with anyone at the station So, I want to remind us of what the initial allegations were. Yes, there were 11 complainants – current and former WBOR employees who filed allegations in December that said there was a pattern of over-the-top screaming and criticism of producers on the show, and that it would sometimes be followed by hugs or back rubs

1:43:33 You know good bad experience and rolled into one so when we are when we argue then I can just give you a little back rub everything will be okay, and what the investigators concluded was that the guys is psycho behavior that felt endemic to that work environment was not going to be conducive going forward. The managers here had tried too many times to ask Tom to change his behavior without effect, they didn't feel like they could try one more time and they did not conclude that those hugs backrubs there were some other touching involved some sexually explicit comments they did not find that any of

1:44:16 violated the station's sexual harassment policy, or BU's sexual harassment policy. Okay so two investigations into this they both come out today essentially Tom Ashberg is dismissed has he said anything about this? Yes he said he's deeply disappointed his attorney actually said that both she and Tom are shocked by the fact that the allegations here led to a termination. They say that it's really the station and management's fault for not addressing the issues as they came up." Yeah, the guy's wife did just die after prolonged shit illness

1:44:56 Yeah, so maybe he was grouchy on edge. I don't know Well he might be also a shouter could be and this is what yes tons of these guys Bill Gates is a shouter But it's all this has kind of been packaged under meat hashtag me too where everything's package in there now He should watch hers another what's the other one see her? Is that that wasn't you see her see her Watch her. That'd be good then there is I think we brought this up on the previous episode You know when we yes, and went through the list The New York Times list since Harvey Weinstein We were amazed that some people weren't on a list but it was the 68 men since Harvey Weinstein That's why

CHAPTER 23 / 42 Discussion

Classical Music Censorship, James Levine Allegations

The classical music world is grappling with how to handle recordings by prominent conductors like James Levine and Charles Dutoit following sexual assault allegations. Some radio stations have opted to stop playing their work entirely, while others continue to broadcast the music without mentioning the conductors' names. This trend has sparked a debate over the potential for broader censorship of art and literature based on the personal conduct of the creators.

james levine· classical music· censorship· metropolitan opera· me too

1:45:38 And we noticed that there seems to be a lot of hashtag me too going on in the classical music arena. To play or not to play? That's the question for Classical Music Radio Recent sexual assault allegations against prominent orchestra conductors James Levine and Charles Dutrois have left station managers wondering what to do with their recordings David C. Barnett reports programmers across the country, including IdeaStream's WCLV are divided over how to react. Next music from Act 1 of Verdi's Falstaff... WCLV program director Bill O'Connell has queued up a rousing opera excerpt for his afternoon listeners Here is Bryn Terfel with The Met Orchestra Hey! Pudgyuk!

1:46:20 But he doesn't mention that this popular recording was conducted by James Levine. References to Levine and his music are nearly gone from the Cleveland station following allegations of sexual abuse with music students dating back to the 1960s. WCLV Station Manager Jenny Northern says they also avoid conductor Charles Dutrois after a number of sexual assault allegations against him We're suspending broadcasting their works for the most part And we're trying to see what happens. Is there due process? Will there be charges actually brought, and what's the situation? Joe Getz is also grappling with this as music director of WFIU in Bloomington Indiana There has been a very big buzz

1:47:08 Internet chat circles. Gantz recalls the controversy erupted less than two hours after Levine wrapped up a prominent live performance on the Metropolitan Opera's radio season opener last month, radio station peers around the country immediately weighed in. Responses varied quite widely from people who were out and out shunning Levine completely to people who said well maybe we'll still play his recordings but not mention that he is the conductor How can you possibly erase an incredible careers worth of music? We're gonna keep playing it we have gone crazy. You know, we just off the rails These guys well you direct he was the conductor while them so all of a sudden let's say Mick Jagger somebody throws The book at him because it's very possible can't even play Bette Midler doing a Rolling Stones song

1:47:59 Yeah, if that were to happen. Yeah because it's yeah All the Rolling Stones songs all their whole all their work from day one would be I think some of them should work on this It would be banned and you couldn't even cover it That's right Yeah, what is this? What is this mentality we've gotten all of us so no more Kevin's Kevin Spacey films that just should be just everything should be much jammed or what Just taken off. I want to see it don't wanna see if don't any mention you watch it Can even if I see it up. I'll be triggered this this of course will lead to what is definitely gonna happen and

1:48:35 Which is the, which is what really I think one of the goals might be. Which is the censorship of great literature. You betcha! Especially Mark Twain stuff. Yeah, book burn... yeah Huckleberry Finn book burning on the rise. Book burning. Hey we could lead that charge? Yes, burn a few books. Get down and get it out early But of course this is all because of Trump. We know that and I have the proof from MSNBC's unfortunately cancelled show, Joy Reid AMJOY Cancelled. That's a surprise to me

CHAPTER 24 / 42 Discussion

Trumpism as Rape Culture, MSNBC Commentary

On MSNBC's "AM Joy," commentator Anand Giridharadas characterized "Trumpism" as a metaphor for sexual abuse and described Donald Trump as the "commander-in-chief of American rape culture." The segment argued that the administration's tactics involve the cultivation of fear and the dehumanization of marginalized groups. These extreme rhetorical framings are noted as a reflection of the current political climate in "Dimension B."

joy reid· anand giridharadas· msnbc· trumpism· rape culture

1:49:14 Very sad. She's a she's a terrible person in this show sucked Yeah, but it was great for clips such as This is the the crazy silver haired guy the thing is Indian or Pakistani Anand Grid hardest grid hard us I have no idea yeah we talked about him before very weird like attention-grabbing hair and And here he is.

1:49:55 No, and I mean we don't need to even worry about a kind of monster like Kellyanne Conway who will just say whatever for money. So let's disregard her. I think this week was actually turning point with two different staffers these charges dredged up these haunting pictures And then you have the president's own history of self-declaring himself to be a vagina grabber and winning on that platform. This week was a turning point because I think we're starting to realize that Trumpism doesn't merely tolerate sexual abuse, sexual abuse is a very apt metaphor for everything Trumpism is. The living, the cultivation of fear in everyone,

1:50:40 insistence that people are loving it when you are actually degrading and dehumanizing them and making their lives harder, and then just going around telling people that the blacks love you, the Hispanics love you, the women love you. The state of constant insecurity that you create in others, and then the inversion of your own insecurities into this attempt to dominate others. This is a rape culture presidency, and Donald Trump has become the commander-in-chief of American rape culture. There ya go! Beautiful! The commander Jim commander-in-chief of the American rape culture everybody Wow Too bad too bad her show was gone and was great Because you know that was really what these people are thinking and that's just no longer gonna be available to us. Oh, it's books

1:51:33 You live in a dream world, my friend. I do! I know... The view has been pulling that stuff forever. You always have them. Yeah. Katie Couric apologized by the way for her Dutch Olympic moment Did you see all the memes that Dutch are putting together it was great. Yeah, this was when she had during the opening parade She said oh you know the Dutch of course You know Amsterdam is at sea level it's actually below sea level And you know the canals freeze so frequently that they use it for transportation And the Dutch were posting pictures, you know like of a guy with you know one leg that is You know falling through the ice and the caption is oh I'm sorry. Got a flat tire on my commute to work this morning Katie Couric Yeah good stuff the dutch sounds good Dutch are funny So I have a report that came either it's doing the Olympics for starters could have I could have played this low earlier in The show but this is a report about

CHAPTER 25 / 42 Discussion

5G Technology, Intel's Olympic Marketing

Intel is using the PyeongChang Olympics as a test site for 5G technology, though critics label the effort more of a PR stunt than a functional deployment. Since 5G-capable handsets are not yet widely available to consumers, the "experiment" lacks a real-world user base. The discussion also touched on the technical differences between GSM and CDMA standards and the potential health concerns associated with high-frequency wireless signals.

5g· intel· pyeongchang· wireless technology· gsm

1:52:33 I want you to kind of tell me what's wrong with this report. What is wrong with this report on 5G in Korea? 5g in korea... What is wrong, so what is wrong? Okay that makes sense here we go. Yeah Raj a bay area tech giant is using PyeongChang as something of a test site with olympic athletes who are prolific when it comes to social media as their subjects they want to see how well our gadgets work with the latest super high speed connections The Olympic village is rapidly filling up, but not just with the world's best athletes. Also with gadgets. Amid all the training and unpacking PyeongChang has quietly become the fastest place on earth when it comes to wireless technology. The demand is huge Intel which wrapped its headquarters with Olympic logos is providing the speed

1:53:29 Aisha Evans is in charge of what she calls the 5G experiment. You can basically take something like 5g, deploy it and see how is it behaving in a real world environment? Over the next few weeks everything from phones to drones in PyeongChang will be faster than ever with a post-Olympic goal of global coverage. We want to bring 5G broadly in the US and then worldwide starting in 2020 But for now, great news if you're following your favorite athlete or country on Instagram or Twitter And while you're at it keep an eye out for Olympic branded driverless cars! we will actually have a 5g autonomous driving test site

1:54:13 Yep, cars will be 5G as well in PyeongChang. I should mention that Intel is one of several companies working on bringing 5G to us gadget users We'll check back after the games to see how well it worked. Back to you Hmm... Well... Gadget users Couple of things Gadget users First of all the uh The reach of 5G is so limited which is why you need a lot of base stations I don't think thats gonna work very well for drones above 50 feet Well, let's go even further back in the basics of this. To make 5G work on your phone you need a whole new phone with a 5G radio? How many people in the world have that? Zilch!

1:55:01 So they're running it up there somehow we're all gonna be using these 5G. Nobody's using this stuff because you can't use it, you have nothing to use it on! This is a bogus report! Well that was the first thing I was going to think of but maybe they handed out 5g handsets? They handed out nothing Okay, that wasn't in the report. We handed out nothing yet It works great and by the way the guy says a 5g experiment She's then they have some woman who is Chinese or Korean she's there all yes we do we're doing 5G here which she's representing Intel and it's a big sign behind her said 5g experience And he says 5g experiment

1:55:41 Oh, interesting. I missed that. The whole thing was just a botch! Well it's...it's the PR piece. It has nothing to do with news. Yeah, it is the PR piece for Intel. As though somethings going on. Yeah. I was very annoyed by the report. Well I think you're gonna hear a lot more of this 5G talk That's..that is going to be the holy grail. Ah we can solve all the problems if only we had 5G. Yeah, I think they said then about 2G 3G 4G Before there was a G yes you're right it was just well there was a G was gsm no gsm is not has nothing to do with it really I'm just the methodologies type of radio this two CDMA and GSM by the way if you go to Korea your gsm phones are working now cdma right

1:56:33 Yeah, it's almost all. Is that a better technology CDM because that's what Verizon uses I believe? Verizon I think is Sprint maybe yeah is that a better technology It's the old but still American Technology But it's not the better one the better one is GSM cuz you pull cards out as you got the Sims. I mean they can make CDMA SIM adaptable, but no. Nobody knows what the better technology is like battles and murders that go on between these two technologies but I prefer GSM personally there's a period of time it was covered in the

CHAPTER 26 / 42 Discussion

Elon Musk, Low-Orbit Satellite Broadband

Elon Musk is seeking government funding to launch approximately 2,000 low-orbit satellites to provide global broadband internet. While intended to reach rural areas, critics point out that satellite internet inherently suffers from latency issues due to the physics of radio wave travel. Furthermore, the short lifespan of low-orbit satellites necessitates frequent and costly replacements, raising questions about the long-term viability of the infrastructure.

elon musk· spacex· broadband· satellites· latency

1:57:10 Remember when if when these two technologies first emerged there was like literally murders people murdering because somebody's discovered some value gives your brain cancer dead Can't have that a lot of weird stuff about these two technologies well the four the GSM seems to be winning yeah, well 4g was already deemed pretty unhealthy and 5G is just you know as an amateur radio professional I'd love saying that as a licensed amateur radio professional then this is not necessarily good thing these high these very high frequencies No, I don't think it's good to be exposed to that at all. Yeah, we're over being inundated yes Meanwhile Elon Musk has found another pot of government money to tap does he his? requests to launch something like 2,000 Low-orbit satellites

1:58:08 For a broadband from space plan and he's tabbed in the end this request is going into the broadband Infrastructure actor or whatever that is where there's billions of dollars. Oh, wait a minute So instead of ship like wiring the rural America with some you know Maybe little cable going out there to the middle-of-nowhere Instead it spending your money on that we're gonna send us satellite up and those low orbit satellites are by the way, fail and they come down to earth after a few years and have to be sent up again. So that's a better use of our money? Apparently. Oh okay just checking. It's also physically you're just going to have latency it's not going to work for a lot of things we've investigated this extensively for on-the road shows then you're just gonna wind up with latency certainly on Skype it's gonna be a second maybe even longer before comes round trip

1:59:05 And that's just physics. Yeah, the radio wave travels at the speed of light hits that thing and there's a distance it takes awhile to get up there It's not like next door. It's up there Anyway, they have to be low orbit because that's one of the reasons you want low orbit So you don't do kind of knock the latency down a little bit is the high orbit once you just forget it Hello wait 10 minutes Yeah And so you get a little bad you see it all the time on television when they hit cuz their bouncing off They're bouncing off I think mostly high-orbits satellites or mid orbit Iridium iridium is low low orbit

1:59:42 Yeah, medium. I don't think this satellite when you're getting a satellite feed fun live on ABC and some guys in Beirut Right and somebody's in the ocean takes it takes five six seconds And so what's going on there bill? One two three and you can hear what's going on near Bill and his headset Sometimes yeah It's really bad well a theme today seems to be just how social justice has permeated throughout society, whether it's the See Her movement or this... everything is... I think you should change it to Watch Her. That would be good

CHAPTER 27 / 42 Discussion

Peter Rabbit Movie, Food Allergy Controversy

Sony Pictures issued an apology following a backlash against the "Peter Rabbit" film for a scene depicting "allergy bullying." In the movie, rabbits pelt a character with blackberries, knowing he is allergic, which results in him using an EpiPen. Advocacy groups for asthma and allergy sufferers argued that making light of life-threatening allergies is dangerous, particularly as children with food allergies are frequently targets of bullying.

peter rabbit· sony pictures· food allergies· epipen· bullying

2:00:26 everything is just very extreme to me it seems like most of it is virtue signaling you know if I just yell loud enough that the old white men are a-holes then I'll be accepted and this is actually after these two clips I'm gonna play. I want you to talk about something you mentioned in the newsletter which is the yelling within a group do you remember what I'm talking about? The cult story. No, give me a background on it tell what I said I think you talked about this It was it was a clip from no is it thank you? It was a clip from the last show You didn't play well. I've already forgot whatever I'm gonna play these two clips and then I'll rack it up And you'll remember when I play it okay good so the first is a huge controversy over the new Sony picture Peter Rabbit

2:01:25 Yes, you thought just a simple little fairy tale for kids would be harmless. No no no! Say the social justice warriors. Big issue. Peter Rabbit. It came out this weekend. This update of the classic short stories by Beatrix Potter pits a group of rabbits led by the eponymous Peter against their nemesis, Mr. McGregor. Hijinks ensue mostly at McGregor's expense His face was so classic! He was like... Sounds pretty normal for a slapsticky kids movie, but in this version Mr. McGregor is allergic to blackberries In one scene the rabbits pelt him with the fruit One gets into his mouth

2:02:14 and he's forced to use his EpiPen. Some of the families who have gone to see this movie, who have kids with food allergies, have left being very upset That's Kenny Mendez He is CEO of the Asthma & Allergy Foundation of America He also has two grown children with food allergies And he says watching this movie brought back some bad memories The fear and the trepidation you have when your kid is young They're going on a play date or they are in school You know, if you're enrolling in a preschool and the preschool basically says well we can't accommodate your son. You should really think about switching preschools that doesn't feel good." And there's more! A survey by the Mount Sinai Medical Center in New York found that about 1 quarter of children with food allergies are bullied teased or harassed sometimes using the food as a weapon

2:03:03 In some cases, that led to hospitalization or death. With all of that in mind, Kenny Mendez wrote an open letter to Sony and Sony apologized writing quote food allergies are a serious issue our film should not have made light of Peter Rabbit's arch nemesis Mr McGregor being allergic to blackberries even in a cartoonish slapstick way we sincerely regret not being more aware and sensitive to this issue and we sincerely apologize. Kenny Mendez says that statement is a good first step. So he's reached out to Sony with hopes of continuing the conversation.

CHAPTER 28 / 42 Discussion

China Social Credit System, Blacklisting and Shaming

China is expanding its "Social Credit System," which monitors and ranks citizens based on financial reliability and social behavior. Individuals on the "discredited" blacklist can be banned from high-speed travel, private schools, and luxury purchases. Some local jurisdictions have even implemented public shaming measures, such as unique ringtones that identify a caller as a debtor to anyone nearby.

china· social credit· blacklist· shanghai· surveillance

2:03:58 Where is all of this headed? Well, we might look to China for this. You probably heard about their social rankings there was a story that cropped up maybe half a year ago or a year ago now there's a report on how true it really appears to be you know credit scores right that honestly somewhat mysterious number that ostensibly is about how likely are to pay your debts but then in reality has been adapted for use and hiring decisions are whether not landlord will rent to you all kinds different things China is building something that goes a good deal further. It's called the social credit system and by 2020, the government in Beijing hopes to be able to collect not just financial information on its citizens but also to record anti-social behavior things like not sorting your garbage or refusing to visit your parents And just like credit scores here over there it's kind of mysterious too Our China correspondent Jennifer Pack reports now from Shanghai

2:04:50 In China, if a court orders you to repay debts and you refuse, a judge may put you on the blacklist. And when friends call you instead of ringtone they might hear... The person who have reached is listed by the local court as discredited person China's Supreme Court runs this blacklist. Since 2013, there have been 9 and a half million people put on the list. Journalist Liu Hu is one of them He lost a defamation lawsuit and was ordered to pay compensation and other fees I wired the money to the wrong account so the court didn't get the money No one there told me then the court put me on the blacklist he and others on the blacklist are banned from boarding a plane or high-speed train

2:05:37 Since I couldn't fly across the country for a work trip, I ended up taking the slow train. Instead of a three-hour flight it took me 28 hours to get there." The court also restricts him from making big purchases like buying property or sending his kid to private school Anyone with Liu Hu's name and ID number can check the blacklist through the Supreme Court website The blacklist shows the kinds of penalties people deemed untrustworthy might get once the database is set up by 2020. Credit expert Hu Naihong says the goal of the project is simple. Those with good credibility will be rewarded, those with bad credibility will be punished. And dozens of cities are also testing their own systems. Shanghai is one of them. Here if you jaywalk or don't sort your garbage properly, the local government might record these infractions on your credit file

2:06:27 Well, we can look forward to some fun stuff in the future. Professor Ted is... Berkeley already does this Really? Well I mean they do it with the garbage Well I'd love the addition of forcing you to have a ringtone that basically calls out as douchebag I like that We could implement... In fact government You're more than welcome to use our jingle for that if you want Someone's deadbeat dad and their phone rings Douchebag Yeah, or that or see something say something which is the jingle we've been pushing. We have been pushing that they'll never go for it They'll never go for it in that great clip I'm giving you a borderline clip of the day for that was very educational You know It's the professor Ted its Orwell It's everything all rolled up into one and that information is just needs to be aggregated here. We can do it

2:07:21 Yeah, we could do that. I know you've seen it but if you have not seen the black man the man your calling is a The man your the man your calling is a deadbeat huh nice Exactly right yeah Black Mirror There was an episode of Black Mirror That was a lot like that If you haven't seen it something to take a look at and always remember Give it up Mary McCoy All right, Mary McCoy but okay. Here's now so this calling out naming and shaming This is you know this is something has become deeply embedded in our culture deeply embedded

CHAPTER 29 / 42 Discussion

Eric Weinstein, Political Cultism and Information Revulsion

Mathematician Eric Weinstein posits that modern political movements are behaving like cults, where members exhibit a "revulsion" toward external information. This behavior is demonstrated by individuals who refuse to watch the State of the Union or listen to opposing media outlets like Fox News as a way to signal loyalty to their group. This self-imposed isolation prevents the entry of disconfirming ideas and reinforces the internal narrative of the "cult."

eric weinstein· evergreen state· cult behavior· fox news· state of the union

2:08:17 It's it's and the louder you yell about someone being a dick the better you are Enter John's clip from the previous episode from Eric Weinstein. Hello? Yeah, this is where you set up your clip Oh, the clip from previous episode where I talk about Eric Weinstein? No we didn't play the clip. Oh! I thought we played the clip... NO! We played it- OH that's why was confused okay this is Eric Weinstein- Okay can i just stop stop Can I just say something why that happened Yes I know why it happened you can explain it though Because you..we rarely do show talk pre or post

2:08:53 And you said, oh you gotta listen to this clip I'm gonna play it on the next episode and we played it after the show. And that's why you thought Oh has been played. Yes exactly and it's a great clip in a great topic and I thought it was like Well, I don't know why. I thought it was like a couple episodes ago when this happened but okay Eric Yeah, Eric Weinstein is the brother of Seth I think who got kicked out of evergreen It was the big stink up at Evergreen because his brother refused to His brother refused to leave on Black Only Day. Yeah, on Black Only day because it was supposed to be... He said I'm a teacher! I'm not leaving! Well, cause people tell me too? It's not my job description and he got rousted as a racist. He is really good biology teacher Meanwhile his brother Eric happens to work for Peter Thiel as a mathematician and he's kind of one of these brainiacs that is

2:09:50 extremely sharp. Yeah, we've played a clip of him before yeah we did? Yep I played a clip oh that's what you had an old clip of his but this was the clip that i thought was quite revealing and by the way before play both these guys are hyper liberal they're very liberal is that the left is behaving in some sense like a cult a cult is always wondering did you talk to anyone outside well if you talk to somebody outside then you might have ideas come in that disconfirm what the cult has been telling you. And so, the fact that you and I always want to talk...I mean, I'll talk to a convicted killer or somebody with horrible views because even if I just want to protect myself against that person, I wanna understand how they think

2:10:39 How can you not watch if you think Fox News is the enemy? Why wouldn't you listen to the enemies broadcasts, right and so this idea of revulsion I cannot possibly even bear two seconds of that voice or that idea or that person Is a tell and it's a tell that the person is trying To say don't worry. I haven't spoken to anyone outside of our cult. I love this clip In fact, I'm gonna give you a borderline for it It's a great clip. There's no question about it, and I think he really does explain a lot That's what's going on and that's the fact that's one of this thing we have a lot of that with our listeners and producers many of them say well I try to get my wife to live she won't listen to it And she doesn't want me listening to it to the show why?

2:11:27 Yeah, it's the same thing. I think he made a good point about Fox! One time I said something and just mentioned Rush Limbaugh as name of some group... Oh? How could you listen to that guy?! But he makes a good point about saying oh I can't listen to him, I won't listen to him A better example was the State of The Union where the face bag was filled with people saying I'm not gonna watch And that I think is the best example. There were people in Congress that wouldn't go to it for the same reason they're so dedicated to their cult and so when people do that, That is a tell according to smart man Weinstein not related too Is a tell that people are trying to communicate that they are in the group and do not step outside of the cult

2:12:17 Right. And do not do anything that might... They're dedicated Yes, so they can't get any external information So we need a no agenda reply to that when someone says that Someone says oh I won't even listen! I won't even watch that speech What is the No Agenda? What is the appropriate reply? I have no idea and don't know what to do about it You'd have to have an intervention you'd have to have a bunch of people around make them listen to tie them down I dunno Eric Weinstein doesn't have a solution He just has he just he's observed the phenomenon and he's reported on the phenomenon with that clip which you're right it was in the last show I mean it was supposed to be in the last show. I looked at my old clipless forgot about a complete what I really do not yeah, you write as we can't talk about stuff like this

2:13:06 Unless I preface a lot of stuff when we talk about that way door or little Take down of the show after the show didn't analyze it. I will sometimes say well, here's something Oh then Adam will say oh don't talk about you We're not gonna do you know? Don't talk about it. I said this will never get on the show and then we can talk about yeah That's right Well, this was a huge mistake playing this clip to you No It wasn't because I remembered and I got it Yeah, it's true. You do have it there It's just the you know the five minutes that takes for me to convince you is always a little yeah I'm just like I'm dumb that stupid I'm gonna show my school by donating to no agenda imagine all the people who could do this. Oh yeah, that'd be fun

CHAPTER 30 / 42 Discussion

Human Connection, No Agenda Meetups and Reminders

Following a discussion on Johann Hari's book "Lost Connections," there has been a surge in interest for No Agenda meetups to combat social isolation. The hosts discussed the importance of physical human connection while navigating the logistical challenges of scheduling events. The segment included a lighthearted exchange regarding the appropriate timing for reminders and the "glow" experienced after producing a show.

meetups· lost connections· johann hari· human connection· social isolation

2:13:51 And we do have some people to thank who are not in a cult of any sort, unless there's no agenda cult but none that I know of. Nobody is running it! Wait before you get into that...I need a date Ever since i talked about the Lost Connections book and people have been reading it and actually the guy showed up, the author showed on The Joe Rogan Show the next day It was good interview he's long-winded but it was good interview People are reaching out saying yes, yes to meetups. Yes we need human connection We need to connect in person with other no agenda people and there's a lot of movement going on in the meetup groups Yeah But we need a date and if you just you know what screw it but I'm what am I even thinking? I'll call Mimi

2:14:37 She's not well yeah you might as well she'll take care of it she'll get us a date because we want to do is so I'm going at me without the blue is just be nice to go to some you know right in the middle of the donation segment can come up with a date right now but i've been asking for three weeks. Yeah, but you decide what is that most reminds like Mimi does the same thing. Everybody who has a wife will notice this. I'm triggering you now, I am your wife what's your problem? So you got something to do and you gotta do it and say okay i'm gonna do it remind me tomorrow And then the reminder always comes at 515 when its closed whatever you have to do is closed and then you get your 515 reminder did you do it

2:15:19 No, you didn't remind me at an appropriate time. This is a good example. You remind me right in the middle of a donation segment? I don't know! At the top of the donation segment and what do you usually tell your first wife? My first wife that i'm not married to anymore... Hey! What do you say to your female wife? What do I say to her? Yeah, what she does then. I said the same thing that you just said right there. Oh okay Remind me when i can do it not after the place is closed! I reminded you after the show last time Just when is an appropriate time to remind you? I don't know Okay Maybe in email The fact is...I'll tell ya this is the reason why I didn't remember the Eric Weinstein thing It's because when the shows over im done with the show

2:16:06 I live on in just a glow for hours. You might do that, but you know...I will go back and get some clips during the day but i'm not thinking about what happened or I mean I figure we got that out of the way now wait for the next show it's like a different kind of a...it is dimensional. I feel like I'm still in a warm bath of love from the show for hours after it! I don't understand what you're talking about yeah well then you probably do feel that way and don't identify with that Well, here we go. We have people to thank and I think they're all anxious to be thanked including Shimon Lizbozuski, Lizbozuski, I think

CHAPTER 31 / 42 Discussion

Chinese New Year Donations, Knighting Ceremony

The show celebrated Chinese New Year with several "88.88" themed donations and conducted a formal knighting ceremony for Ryan Turner and Tina Marie. The new Knight and Dame were inducted into the Roundtable of the No Agenda Knights for their $1,000 contributions. The segment included the traditional reading of the "Hookers and Blow" list and instructions for obtaining custom knight rings.

chinese new year· knighthood· donations· ryan turner· tina marie

2:16:47 It's a de-douching coming his way. You've been de-douched! Contribute $100 and 70 cents, and then Richard Dominelli contributed $100 in 15 cents And he said I don't know if it was on the birthday list looks like it because they see a little yellow there again Yes He is I see it perfect happy birthday to my walking bubble of awesome Angela who turns 15 on today Today, today's the day. She has been growing up a no agenda teen that's it That's a t-shirt No Agenda Teen You can sell it at Hot Topic Hot Topic Roger Worley in Carson California 8888 Oh, 88s These are one of our other donations This is for Chinese New Year tomorrow Anybody wants to donate? Yes 8888 Which is a lot of eights For Chinese New Year So I offered that in the newsletter and got three takers

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CHAPTER 32 / 42 Discussion

Russian Tool Swap, Trump Dirt Allegations

A bizarre story involving a Russian scammer allegedly offering to return stolen NSA hacking tools in exchange for $1 million has surfaced. Reports suggest the CIA paid $100,000 as an advance, but instead of tools, the individual provided unverified "dirt" on Donald Trump. Critics argue the story makes little sense as software tools can be infinitely copied, suggesting the entire operation may have been a cover for acquiring political opposition research.

cia· nsa· russian hacker· trump dossier· fisa

2:24:44 Now what are we not talked about? Well if something kept it took place like a week or two ago, and I had a clip lost the clip Oh by the way. I just got an alert my heart rate was at 101 BPM during the segment My Apple watch 80 my apple watch just alerted me Put in the microwave by the way make it a lot more efficient You know in a waterproof it okay put in the microwave turn on high push the button okay Now, remember that story about the apparently a million dollars where it was at stake and there's somebody who was gonna give the CIA or the NSA their tools back? Yeah yeah. Some Russian scammer... And instead the guy gave him all kinds of dirt on Trump. Bad dirt on Trump and got $100 grand in as an advance payment then he disappeared right? Yeah right right right!

2:25:47 I wish i had a clip for this story but when every day first heard the story, I said that my thought to myself. What was he going to do? Was gonna give the tools back today Yeah, I had the same exact same thought like he's like he found the tools But I found them like they haven't been copied a million times million times. Yeah, I thought that was very strange too So to me it sounds like you just threw that in there and there's no dirt on Trump Well, you think that's what happened? That's yeah, this must be a million dollars worth of stuff

2:26:25 I mean a million dollar deal to get the tools back which makes no sense because it's software so you can't get them back. Because you never lost them in the first place, you still have them and it is just a copy of the tool and you can't get that back because you don't know if it hasn't been copied a million times like you said. So your thinking... It could just be a case of really bad reporting Well there probably would be... well that goes without saying But you're thinking maybe there was no, it wasn't a tool swap at all. It was about to get dirt on Trump. Yeah they just threw that in there. Because he's Russian? I mean what the guy is like ah! Here are your tools. I threw in the bonus extra special for Monday. That makes no sense. What is that?! Like oh yeah got some stuff for ya please

2:27:11 So the whole thing was to get dirt on Trump, I believe what you're saying. Which now I'm buying this by the way Get dirt on Trump and they saw the first batch of dirt and it was crap There was nothing in there that they would just wasn't just from a daily mail It was just junk And so that was if they sent him off and then came with his cock-and-bull story To explain their fact that they lost 100 grand in a deal Yeah, yeah, yeah could be Well, maybe it's because they'll be implicated somehow that that information got into some FISA warrant or whatever. So I was just some we were looking for tools tools Tools yeah, we want to get us back Yeah, we didn't have a copy What we did but it's with the moon landing tapes that we also lost Because we didn't have a copy who knows John its incompetence

CHAPTER 33 / 42 Discussion

Victoria Nuland, Christopher Steele and State Department

Former State Department official Victoria Nuland revealed that Christopher Steele provided early reports on Russia to the State Department for free through a "friend" in the agency. Nuland claimed the department passed the information to the FBI after realizing it was outside their purview. This timeline suggests that Steele's relationship with the State Department predated the formal funding of the dossier by the Clinton campaign, potentially serving as the genesis for the subsequent investigation.

victoria nuland· christopher steele· state department· fbi· dossier

2:28:05 Or hyper competence. Yeah, now you're talking Okay, well let's let's stay here and stay here with By actually I picked up on Vicki Newland You know now that she's the CEO of the war tank is that what it's called? The worst yes the war tank top or tank top there's a she was on face the nation and this was maybe two weeks ago week-and-a-half ago and there were some new information that came out of we listen very carefully to what she says now Victoria Newland was the assistant deputy secretary state big muckety muck big friends with with Hillary well she was in the Hillary State Department Hillary Clinton and she

2:28:59 starts talking about this dossier with some very interesting little tidbits she throws in. Chris Steele had a number of commercial clients who were asking him for reports on what was going on in Russia, what was going on in Ukraine and between them. Chris had a friend at the State Department and he offered us that reporting free so that we could also benefit from it. It was one of, you know hundreds of sources that we were using to try to understand what was going on then in the middle of July when he was doing this other work and became concerned... The dossier? The dossier. He passed

2:29:57 two to four pages of short points of what he was finding. And our immediate reaction to that was, this is not in our purview. This needs to go the FBI if there is any concern here that one candidate or the election as a whole might be influenced by the Russian Federation. That's something for the FBI to investigate." And that was our reaction when we saw this. It's not our, we can't evaluate this and frankly if every member of the campaign who the Russians tried to approach and tried to influence had gone to the FBI as well in real time We might not be in a mess were in today

2:30:37 What's most important is that we investigate what happened in the past, but even more importantly that we work together – the House, Senate Intelligence Committees, Executive Branch and our technology companies to deter future Russian efforts to influence U.S. politics and elections. We should be working on the strategies that will blunt this, expose it. Some of our European partners have done better already than we have at this in the French election. The Macron campaign immediately exposed what Russia was doing to their public to their media And that sunshine served as a disinfectant and blunted the Russians' ability to influence that election. That's what we should be doing here, and when we fight with each other, when we question our fundamental institutions, that is a great day for Vladimir Putin." So she says a couple of interesting things here. She says that Steele had a friend in the State Department

2:31:35 Then this was Hillary Clinton's State Department. Then he sent over, and they sent it over for free... We didn't pay for anything! We don't pay for it we didn't pay, we didn't pay, we didn't pay, we didn't pay, just send it over as free. Then he sends over a couple of pages now this is years ago This is 14-15. This is before really the primaries And he sends over a couple of pages. We couldn't evaluate that But is that when Hillary Clinton decided? Oh, let's pay this guy to do some more work It sure seems like that to me. Well that if you go by her the timeline That's what Victoria Nuland is not implying but in fact is I mean doesn't think she's implying but that's what she's implying Yes exactly She doesn't know what she's implying, but she is

2:32:28 Yeah, well if what she says is true. She is yes I agree why in other words would essentially something that should be done by the FBI because it's a scandal Hillary's all-in on Well, it seems to me this is the genesis where he had a friend in the State Department. It could have been Hillary! Hey hey friend look what I got and then all of a sudden oh well we gotta send this to the FBI but i think that's when the oppo research started to build after you had a couple these very troubling things that he found out So it's filling in holes that were empty before and yes, they're making this stuff up. Yes Well I think the process of this the information may be made up but the processes to how it happened is what's being? Unveiled here Mike Morrell former deputy CIA director acting CIA director was also on that program and right after Vicky finished

CHAPTER 34 / 42 Discussion

Social Media Regulation, Dutch Foreign Minister Resignation

The Dutch Foreign Minister, Halbe Zijlstra, was forced to resign after admitting he lied about attending a meeting with Vladimir Putin in 2006. Zijlstra had used the fabricated meeting to claim Putin had expansionist goals for a "Greater Russia," helping to set an anti-Russian agenda in the Netherlands. This incident occurs amid broader calls for a "Social Media Act" to control the spread of weaponized disinformation by foreign actors.

social media act· putin· halbe zijlstra· netherlands· disinformation

2:33:22 He, of course delivered the message which is what we all have to be thinking about. I just want to add one point Victoria's absolutely right We have not deterred Putin and one of the consequences of that is other countries are now getting into this business of weaponizing social media So the Chinese are now doing it this with the Taiwanese The Turks are now doing this with a Turkish diaspora in Europe They're trying to influence them This is going to spread because we have failed to deter Putin Failed to deter him. So 2018 elections gonna be all messed up That's just all gonna be horrible because we're funny Yeah, well I'm waiting for the Facebook Act or the Social Media Act is it gotta happen? It's going to happen They're ramping up for it they want total control they being The government you know people who are running things they have control of the mainstream media They know what they can control the narrative

2:34:21 We're good at it, but yeah we gotta make sure we control everything. It's annoying I find it to be very annoying Just while were on the Putin topic here The Dutch foreign minister had to resign Forced resignation Well actually ill play the clip The dutch foreign minister has quit after revealing on Monday he had lied about a meeting with the Russian president Putin 12 years ago My name is full of diary So that was him crying while resigning with Rutte, the prime minister jumping to his side and putting his arm around your shoulder. But what the guy did is he lied

2:35:19 about meeting Putin at some big powwow and And you know saying that you met Putin is one thing But the reason why it's a problem because he said Putin clearly wants a greater Russia. He's a big threat I was there, he told me personally so it was full of crap! He was lying and they called him out on it and then the Fuller Scrolls actually discovered that it was impossible for him to have been at that actual meeting and he had to come clean, and he had to resign because he helped set the agenda against Russia with a lie. Oh so he said...he never met Putin? No! He never met Putin That was- So he got kicked out because he's full of crap like these guys are Yes And well they're all full of crap but he got caught on it Hmm Interesting Unless there is something else going on but I haven't discovered that yet But if I do I'll circle back

CHAPTER 35 / 42 Discussion

Harvest Box Proposal, Blue Apron Stock Manipulation

The Trump administration proposed replacing a portion of food stamp benefits with a "Harvest Box" of American-grown commodities, similar to the Blue Apron delivery model. Following the announcement, Blue Apron (APRN) stock saw a significant price spike, leading to suspicions of market manipulation or a "pump-and-dump" scheme. The proposal aims to scale back the electronic benefit system for 38 million recipients in favor of direct food delivery.

harvest box· blue apron· food stamps· snap· stock market

2:36:13 I had a bunch of random clips left. Well before you go into random mode, we never received our jingle, our Day Trader jingle. Day Trader? One way to get here. Beatles song. I miss this. So stupid This report came out and I should have jumped on it, I wasn't thinking. President Trump wants to drastically scale back food stamps and replace them with a food box delivery program like Blue Apron A harvest box would be sent to some 38 million people filled with staples like milk fruit grains meat and pasta

2:36:52 All the food in the boxes produced in the US. Food stamp recipients would still get about half of their monthly benefit on an electronic card that can be used at local grocery stores." And, the next day Apron APRN took off like a rocket! the blue apron stock which is but the worst IPO of the past 10 years completely failed and this and you know there's like lawsuits against that's good oh yeah there's lawsuits against it and has been severely suppressed. Maybe uh this is what you're witnessing is manipulation so take advantage of this could be a pump-and-dump I won't touch that with a ten foot pole, because its short

CHAPTER 36 / 42 Discussion

Purdue Pharma, OxyContin Marketing Cessation

Purdue Pharma announced it will stop promoting OxyContin to doctors following a wave of lawsuits from states and municipalities over the opioid epidemic. The Sackler family, owners of the private company, have amassed an estimated $35 billion to $40 billion in sales since the drug's release in 1996. Critics view the cessation of marketing as a PR move to soften public sentiment as the company faces allegations of duping the public about the drug's addictive nature.

purdue pharma· oxycontin· opioid epidemic· sackler family· lawsuits

2:37:36 Yeah, okay. See this doesn't work without the jingle it's not day trading talk without the jingle so I'm just gonna end it here. Sorry you had to do that we do oh This is good yeah This is a little follow-up. This is from NPR, this is Sam Quinones he wrote the book Dreamland about the opioid epidemic in the United States and we've had some news recently that he responded to My impression is that they are simply not going to be promoting it to doctors at all They have been promoting as a reasonable painkiller... This is about Oxy the company that makes it has said they're no longer going to promote it to doctors, whatever that means exactly. Well I know what it means! It means they're not gonna pay him to use it. Well that and having these gorgeous women go from door-to-door from doctor to doctor saying you should prescribe this... Oh this is how they're gonna stop THAT?

2:38:32 Yeah, oh my impression is that they are simply not going to be promoting it to doctors at all They have been promoting it as a reasonable painkiller and my impression is now that they will be Ceasing that which would be a big step for them considering that I think it's one of the few drugs. They actually have why do you think they're doing? It right now. I think they are seeing a groundswell of concern about across the country in communities everywhere with because this is a problem of opiate addiction is a problem all across the country from coast to coast they're also seeing of course as you mentioned dozens of lawsuits filed by states attorneys general, by counties, by towns alleging that several companies Purdue foremost among them led kind of campaign to dupe the public into believing that their drug was not addictive

2:39:21 And these lawsuits, particularly in the last year and a half have really gained steam as local entities, counties and towns have seen themselves buckling under the cost of paying for the consequences of this epidemic. and having done nothing to really create it, are looking for ways of paying for the increasing foster care that they now have to provide. The full jails, the courts that are overwhelmed with new addicts. I think it may be more a PR move as a way of kind of softening feelings toward the company because I can tell you in many parts of the country this company is very roundly hated." How much money has this drug made for Purdue Pharma over the years?

2:40:01 Well, it's a private company. I'm not sure exactly but estimates that i have read Between 35 and 40 billion dollars in sales since the drug came out in 1996 It's basically the reason why the Sackler family which owns Purdue is one of the wealthiest families In America Forbes magazine pegged as one of the wealthiest families in america due almost entirely to the sales of Oxycontin There you go Sounds good to me. No, it sounds totally bogative to me and by the way now rearing its ugly head is Meth meth is back in a big way The meth now available is Incredibly pure strong whatever it is. Yeah, why's this? I'm sorry Why why is it better? I have no idea that did I think it's competition Maybe you know pharmacies pharmaceutical companies are making it they're making the meth

CHAPTER 37 / 42 Discussion

Eye Worm Infection, Oregon Human Case

The CDC reported the first known human case of a parasitic eye worm infection typically found in cattle. An Oregon woman, Abby Beckley, discovered the tiny worms in her eye in 2016 and had to manually remove 14 of them over several weeks. Doctors were initially puzzled by the infection, which is spread by flies, and opted for manual removal rather than anti-parasitic medication to avoid leaving dead parasites in the eye tissue.

eye worms· cdc· oregon· parasites· cattle

2:41:00 I don't know, I'm just saying. It usually doesn't... Why would the quality improve so much? I don't know but i'm not an expert in the cooking All right well let's go to a couple of minor clips uh I think one is this set things off on the right you know it's getting late and only do a couple of these eye worms Eye worms it is. An Oregon woman is the first known human case of a parasitic infection spread by flies her case was published in a Centers for Disease Control report this week, In 2016 26 year old Abby Beckley was diagnosed with a type of eye worm

2:41:41 seen only in cattle. After experiencing some irritation in her left eye, she ended up removing a tiny worm and then she found another and then another and the doctors were all puzzled The only thing they could tell her to do was just keep pulling the worms out If we give her an anti-parasitic agent The worms would die in there but wouldn't be removed. There were parts of it that was almost so strangely comical, but then there was also parts of it that just felt like I was living in a nightmare How bizarre! The whole process took several weeks Beckley says she has been worm-free thankfully ever since then I can't even imagine right? Watching is scaring enough Oh man

CHAPTER 38 / 42 Discussion

San Francisco Pillow Fight, Valentine's Day Tradition

Hundreds of people gathered at the San Francisco Ferry Building for the annual Valentine's Day street pillow fight. Participants are encouraged to use synthetic pillows to minimize the cleanup of feathers, though the event still resembles a "blizzard" of debris. While some view it as a romantic tradition, others use the free-for-all to release frustration and anger in a socially acceptable, albeit chaotic, manner.

san francisco· pillow fight· ferry building· valentines day· tradition

2:42:27 free do you believe that story I don't believe that story. I don't know it's a good story get somebody your jerking worms out of their eye well was as good as the worm out-of-your-mouth story the you told and that surely wasn't credible I believe that story to be true. San Francisco, there's something...I didn't even know about this but apparently the way they celebrate Valentine's Day in San Francisco is a public giant street pillow fight Yeah. Really? Okay. Play the clip. Oops, yeah sorry wrong button here we go Well nothing says Valentine's Day like a giant pillow fight as KTVU's Deborah Villalon reports hundreds of people gathered in San Francisco this evening to take part in an annual tradition

2:43:21 People are asked to bring synthetic, not feather pillows to make the mess easier to sweep. But it still looks like a blizzard at the ferry building A few hundred people at the stroke of six launching into a free-for-all with friends and strangers Pity the person with no pillow. I got you! Rough enough that intermittently some retreat to the sidelines and catch their breath before more punishment. A little rougher than I expected but other people have a lot more force than I do so, didn't expect that. It's like moshing at a concert or something like that but with pillows...so better. Are you serious?

2:44:00 Apparently all is fair in love and pillows. And TV cameras are not spared. It was my idea! It's her form of pillow talk. This engaged couple launched their warfare with a kiss They expect this will become their romantic tradition once they've tied the knot Yeah, I think we're gonna be here like every year probably like bringing our kids maybe sometime in the future as well my parents maybe Have you done this before? Never first time not in public never in public and this couple came from San Diego to strap on GoPros and charge into the crowd

2:44:37 Here's their view in the thick of it. Pillow fight as much fun as they expected, they said before dashing back to the airport. You take out frustrations. Take out frustration but you do it with love and you give a lot of people a good I love you beating. Cleanup was surprisingly quick and easy this Valentine's Day that's because the crowd was smaller than usual just a few hundred some years a few thousand people have shown up And it has taken public works crews hours to clean up the mess in San Francisco Deborah Villalon KTVU Fox 2 News Well, it's probably good for those people specifically who I? Would presume are living and dimension be reality when my parents were divorcing which I didn't really have wasn't acutely aware of what was going on But I do remember

CHAPTER 39 / 42 Discussion

Berkeley Cannabis Sanctuary, George Banks Resignation

The Berkeley City Council voted to declare the city a sanctuary for adult cannabis use, banning local agencies from assisting federal marijuana enforcement. In a related story, White House economic aide George Banks resigned after failing to obtain a permanent security clearance due to past marijuana use. The resignation highlights the ongoing conflict between state-level legalization and federal background check requirements for government employees.

berkeley· cannabis· sanctuary city· george banks· security clearance

2:45:31 That they had this huge pillow fight and that I was told later. That was something that the Counselor or therapist had said they should do so it's probably good that people get all their anger out that way because it sounded like they were getting anger out Well, it was definitely that take is definitely unique. I never heard of this event ever even though apparently has been going on forever Hmm. Well you should get out of the house more often. I should in this case. Uh, I want to play a gratuitous clip This is the Berkeley pot sanctuary clip The Berkeley City Council will vote on a resolution that would effectively declare the city, a sanctuary for legal adult use of cannabis. The resolution would ban city agencies and employees from using money to help enforce federal marijuana laws. Agencies would not be able to turn over information on legal cannabis activities to federal authorities either. Succeed already! Succeed! We're in a bunch of bull crap this is legal in this state they don't have to do anything they want No this is just insane

2:46:33 This leads into the pot thing, and this guy Banks had quit the Trump administration because he was caught with pot. Oh I didn't hear about this! We got it we have some guy... Well here's one of the presentations before i play it you have to imagine this on PBS they have a picture of this guy He looks like is in his mid-thirties His hair is disheveled It looks like he is stoned out of his gore in this picture Okay, can I play it now? Yes please. Meanwhile a senior aide on the White House National Economic Council George Banks says that he's resigned after failing to get a permanent security clearance He told Politico that the White House's counsels office cited his past marijuana use Wow! I am really high

CHAPTER 40 / 42 Discussion

Stormy Daniels Payment, Michael Cohen Statement

Michael Cohen, Donald Trump's personal attorney, stated that he used $130,000 of his own money to pay adult film star Stormy Daniels in 2016. Cohen maintained that he was not reimbursed by the Trump campaign or the Trump Organization for the payment. While the story has received significant coverage on outlets like PBS, some observers argue it lacks substantive news value compared to other national issues.

stormy daniels· michael cohen· donald trump· pbs newshour· campaign finance

2:47:23 Yes, all right. I know you got to go so i'm gonna leave you with the talking point gotta Go what am I on the Johnny Carson show no? You said I can't play clips I have to go you just said that earlier like five minutes ago No, I meant I may have to get to these cliffs oh yeah Oh, I thought you had somewhere to go I know, not only the house. Well yes! I'm kicking you off the show your segments over. It's like Carson when he has a big zoo we know you have to go you got important things to do Hey i know you gotta go uh no i'm sorry i was trying to be helpful if you have another clip it's fine I want to play Stormy Daniels update or George Washington's hair. Screw that, Stormy Daniels it is! The president's longtime personal attorney Michael Cohen now says that he paid $130,000 to a porn film star who allegedly had an extramarital affair with Mr Trump in 2006 the payment was made shortly before the 2016 election

2:48:22 Cohen told the New York Times that the money came out of his own pocket and that he was not reimbursed by the Trump campaign or company. He did not say why he paid Stephanie Clifford, whose film name is Stormy Daniels Mr. Trump has denied any affair Here's the thing... No one cares I don't care! Really? No one cares?! Why- Is that the News Hour? Yeah The... PBS That's just NOT news Alright, I know you have to go John. So I'm gonna leave you with your Dimension B talking points you ready? Yeah selectively cherry-picks information to make one's case the memo is said to be the product of a cherry picked intelligence We're not going to be cherry picking this to cherry pick this that offer a few cherry picked and misleading details What we have is it cherry picked

CHAPTER 41 / 42 Discussion

Cherry-Picking Rhetoric, Dimension B Talking Points

A compilation of news clips demonstrates the pervasive use of the term "cherry-picked" by media analysts to dismiss the Nunes memo and other unfavorable reports. The hosts argued that this linguistic trend is a coordinated effort to control the narrative within "Dimension B." The show concluded with a look ahead to Sunday's program, which will further explore the role of psychotropic drugs in recent national events.

cherry-picking· media bias· deconstruction· psychotropic drugs· m5m

2:49:18 memo. Facts that were put in the memo were cherry-picked what was put out in the memo does, in fact, cherry pick It was kind of cherry picked. Cherry picked information that we're looking at Just kinda cherry picked certain details A few cherry picked facts Okay Really just cherry picks a very selective cherry picked reading of a very selective and cherry picked memo right? That's a very cherry picked memo now Alright You have your marching orders Go cherry pick. Go cherry pick. Whatever you do, cherry pick everybody. Okay Sunday there will be more deconstruction I'm sure we'll understand how this good crisis is not being put to waste Will it be guns? Will it be DACA? Will it be psychotropic drugs which I think it is

2:50:09 All shall be revealed. It's always psychotropic drugs Yeah, well... But maybe we can finally talk about it in the M5M media Oh what am I saying? No way Don't kid yourself Not gonna happen Thank you all for supporting the show Remember us at Dvorak dot org slash NA for Sunday's program Coming to you from downtown 10-9 10-9 10-9 Coming to you from downtown Austin Texas We are the capital of the drone star state FEMA region 6 In the 5 by 9 Common law condo in the Cluedio. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where we really don't have a lot of details...I'm John C Dvorak We return on Sunday right here on No Agenda Please join us then and check us out at dvorak dot org slash na until Sunday as always Adios mofos!

CHAPTER 42 / 42 Discussion

Outro, Snowflake Bunch Song and Sign-off

The episode concluded with a parody song titled "The Snowflake Bunch," mocking modern political activists and "outrage culture." The hosts provided final reminders for the value-for-value donation model and directed listeners to the show's website for further information. The segment ended with the standard sign-off and a final acknowledgment of the "best podcast in the universe."

snowflake bunch· parody· podcast· gitmo nation· value-for-value

2:51:07 Hello, it's me. It's me and here I sit

2:51:44 Lordy, lordy, lordy... Lordy that would be really bad. Look this is terrible! It makes me mildly nauseous but I sat there that morning and could not see a door labeled no action here There's no Anthony Weiner statue, but it is... there's already a statue. Well maybe we need one. Lordy! Lordy! Senator, if I said that I misspoke she forwarded hundreds and thousands of emails some of which contain classified information. I'm made of stone. Zombie armies? I love this work. I love this job You're fired. Do you know what? You're fired. You're fired. You're fired. Lordy that would be really bad. Do you know what? Your fired. Your fired

2:52:37 You're fired. Lordy, that would be really bad! You know what? You're fired. You're fired. You're fired. Lordy that would be really bad! You know what? You're fired. You're fired. And so they came in and said we can see thousands of emails from the Clinton email domain including many many many from the Verizon Clinton domain Blackberry domain They said we think we got to get a search warrant go get these you know what? You're fired You're fired. Lordy, that would be really bad! You know what? You're fired.

2:53:46 You're fired. I'm not picking on the Attorney General, Loretta Lynch who i like very much but her meeting with President Clinton on that airplane was the capper for me. Somehow her emails are being forwarded to Anthony Weiner including classified information. Yes sir. Here's a story of a bunch of snowflakes who were trampling on some other people's rights

2:54:25 All of them left at home with their mother They wanted to start fights Here's the story of a bunch of bad apes Whose addiction was to outrage all the time They got so whipped up into a frenzy Thought they'd commit some crimes Then though one day they went to attend a rally And everyone who disagreed was punched. And this group, thankfully got arrested Now we get to laugh at them the snowflake bunch The snowflake bunch The snowflake bunch Now we get to laugh at them the snowflake bunch

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