Topic: Religious Leaders

Bill Gates discusses strategies to combat "vaccine hesitancy" by recruiting religious leaders to persuade their followers, a tactic he previously used in Nigeria for polio vaccinations. The hosts link this to NIH Director Francis Collins, who has written about the "Christian" duty to take vaccines. They mock the idea of using "naked celebrities" or politicized voices to promote public health.

Attorney General Eric Holder announced new Department of Justice pilot programs designed to build "community partnerships" to identify homegrown threats. These programs involve religious leaders and public safety officials working with U.S. attorneys to improve local engagement. The hosts compare these collaborative surveillance networks to historical collaborationist movements in occupied Europe.