Topic: Jack Parr

Pat Sajak is retiring from "Wheel of Fortune" after 41 seasons. The hosts reflect on Sajak’s career, including his short-lived late-night talk show on CBS (1989-1990). Sajak had hoped to emulate the thoughtful style of Jack Parr, but the show failed to compete in an era that favored the high-energy comedy of Arsenio Hall and Johnny Carson.

Stephen Colbert's new iteration of The Late Show is described as having a "pathos" similar to Jack Parr rather than Johnny Carson. His interview with Vice President Joe Biden focused heavily on personal tragedy and grieving, which the hosts found uncomfortable for a comedy program. They suggest Colbert is still struggling to find the right tone for the show.