Topic: Debriefings

Secret recordings of General Michael Flynn and other military leaders show they were highly critical of the Afghanistan war strategy in private. These debriefings are compared to the Pentagon Papers from the Vietnam era, exposing a massive disconnect between official narratives and reality. The hosts suggest Flynn's outspokenness on these failures may have contributed to his legal troubles.

The hosts play clips of Fahisa Alim, a communications director for a California State Senator, describing her experience on the disabled Carnival Splendor. They point to her use of the word "debriefed" as evidence of a coordinated government narrative. They mock the "mystery meat" and "hot pocket" stories as inconsistent with a total power failure, suggesting passengers were programmed to repeat specific talking points.