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00:00 I love me the smell of a ditto. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Sunday, November 12th, 2017. This is your award-winning GiveOnation Media assassination episode 9 or 8-1. This is no agenda. easy on me because I'm transitioning and broadcasting live from downtown Austin, Tejas, capital of the Golden Star State in the Cluedio. In the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where it's a sunny bright day, everybody's happy. It's time to shop for Christmas. I'm John C. DuBois. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. We have a crappy day here. Gloomy, cold, chilly. 69 degrees.

00:43 Swazzle nuff You do a good burr. Yeah Yeah, I'm in transition John. It's it's tough. It's been rough this weekend. Yeah, yes You get the lop of lop it off of me yet. Yeah, I'm transitioning to windows oh This has been interesting when we're not on we're still on the old gear today trust me. It's taken a while I don't doing this for the show. I'm doing this for the show not for me personally well to protect the show that we can still produce it and To protect the show from obsolete, obsolescence. Yeah, obsolescence. Obsolescence. Obsolescence. Yes. Yeah, to protect the show from obsolescence. I don't trust Apple anymore. I really don't. It's not that I trust Microsoft that much more, but their stuff seems to be working better. Well, that brings me to a clip right off the bat. Whoa! This was not planned, people.

01:41 No, it's never planned. This is the iPhone X problems already. Tonight Apple says it will fix an issue with the new iPhone 10 after some customers complained that the phone can temporarily freeze up in cold weather with a touchscreen and the keyboard not responding. The company says it's already working to correct the issue. The fix will likely come in the form of a software update. Did you put that thunder in there? Yeah, it was thunder. Did you? Yeah. Did you listen to that carefully because... Yeah, I want... No, not really. I knew the story already so I'd want to listen to it again. Tonight Apple says it will fix an issue with the new iPhone X after some customers complained that the phone can temporarily freeze up in cold weather with a touchscreen and the keyboard not responding. The company says it's already working to correct the issue. The fix will likely come in the form of a software update. Okay, now I listened to it carefully.

02:39 Now, it sounds to me that this is not something that can be fixed with a software update. No, I read that Samsung OLED screens had this problem as well and that was a replacement job, not a software update. But you know, Apple's magic with a K. Magic. They can do anything, you never know. Do I do know this is gonna be a problem for them? This is again? Looking at Vista I'm holding back on my punchline. It's it'll take a while, but I've got it lined up when it's ready Okay, I don't know you know it's Cold weather the thing won't work in the cold. I mean come on. That's pretty funny

03:20 I don't know how that works. I know how it works. They built a thing in California. I'm tested it in Korea. I'm still surprised that you know, it had been new iOS 11 comes out all the sheeple. Oh goody new stuff. Hey, wait a minute. Actual keys don't work like the eye. Yeah, I doesn't work. Do you have an iPhone? Yeah, if you do it if you type in well I think they fixed it, but now I'd have a patch out if you typed an I just Standalone as an I did I say then we're turning to an a with a box around it with a question mark

03:57 You didn't hear this? This is a funny story. It must be the guys who also do our spreadsheets. It's obviously a double byte encoding issue, that's very clear. Eric Hochul. Exactly. Well, we had to figure out his name eventually. But, uh, yeah, no, I've- and you know, I run into so many different odd little oddities when moving things over. And the main thing is the studio. Oh, man. So I have a Thunderbolt audio device. Oh, how silly of me. A Thunderbolt- I think it's a Thunderbolt 2 device. So I have to get a PCI card with a USB-C and then a cable that takes

04:44 Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 and then supposedly that's going to work. You should have USB 3, uh... I have... well... ports on your machine. No, not... USB C, not 3, C. Oh, yeah. C. So you have these companies that have been always reliant on Apple, like Universal Audio Devices, which you use for the show. And, you know, so then they are kind of locked in. Yeah, I know you can, you know, there are machines that have, you know, USB-C with Thunderbolt coming right out of it, but not mine. Not many. Not mine. So it's just... Anyway, we'll get it done.

05:25 We'll do it live! Sounds like a good glitch waiting to happen. Oh, maybe. It should be a lot more stable. Definitely a kludge. It should be a lot more stable. And I even had to reboot twice this morning on the Mac. I don't know. The Mac knows it. It feels it. It feels what's going on. Yeah, yeah. You're jilting the Mac. Screw the Mac. Tired of it. Yeah, well, this is what apparently Farage said to his girlfriend. See that breaking story? No. In the mirror? No. Yeah, apparently Barrage was a married man. Yeah. It's been made very clear in the mirror. Yeah. Was having a, not a fling, but an affair for 12 years with his aide de camp. Oops.

06:13 His girl, his assistant. But did he sexually harass her is the question, otherwise he did it all wrong. No, but I think he jilted her eventually or he gave up or something in October of last year. So of course like any good woman, She said look at this. Here's the love letters. He sent me. Here's what happened. He's a cad I had to almost committed suicide and she went on. Oh, no, it's horrible. This was in the mirror. Yeah, who describes her as as vulnerable Did you see and I believe this is this maybe a hoax, I don't know the new news week cover No, you should being that real quick. I

06:57 I mean, bing it. Yeah, bing it. It's a balloon animal, although it looks like a penis. And there's a female hand, apparently, with nail polish. Pricking it with a pin. There's a cartoon caption, pop goes the weasel. Hashtag Me Too is taking down powerful men in all fields. Is Donald Trump next? Donald Trump next? He was the target from the beginning. Yeah. Well, this Hurricane Harvey story just won't die and it just keeps getting better. It really does. And... I can't find this thing. I wonder if this is a... It looks like a real cover. You never know. Something they would do. Exactly, you never know. But, I mean, it's spreading. The Me Too meme is spreading over to the UK's. Not a day goes by without allegations of sexual harassment and misconduct by male celebrities. In Europe, the center of sleaze has moved to Britain.

08:00 This past week, one guy hit the headlines big time, Defense Secretary Michael Fallon. The worldwide backlash against sexual harassment has claimed another victim, this time in the decidedly stuffy and unsexy world of British politics. A far cry from the Hollywood-centered revelations of the past couple of weeks. The head to roll is that of the government's defense minister, Michael Fallon. I realized that in the past, it had fallen by over a hundred percent. standards that we require of the armed forces that I have the honour to represent. I have reflected now on my position in government and I am therefore resigning as Defence Secretary. Fallon was accused of repeatedly touching a secretary's leg in 2002 at a Conservative party dinner. He's the first high-profile victim in the gathering storm over alleged sexual harassment in British politics, which has built in strength in recent days

08:49 as several accusations have been made. This is almost perfect for them. You know, now no one really minds leaving government for, you know, sexually harassing a woman. It's all the pedophiles that, you know, the, woo, thank God, he's off of us. It's what it looks like. Yeah. They're probably spurring it on. Well, since we're on the topic already. Yep. Without doing any thing else let's start with let's go into different fields because I have a prediction of what the field and that one of the next fields is going to be but let's get this one out of the way which is the sex the and this would

09:26 Makes nothing but sense sex abuse abuse in gymnastics our Western Edition. Good evening I'm Anthony Mason first Hollywood then politics now there are new allegations involving abuse of some of America's top athletes more than a hundred and thirty women have accused former US gymnastics team doctor Larry Nassar of abusing them Tonight, Allie Raisman, the two-time captain, is coming forward. Raisman won six medals in the past two Summer Olympics, three gold. She says she spoke to the FBI about Nassar after the 2016 games in Rio. Nassar worked with the team for more than 20 years. He's now in jail and has pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography, but not to charges of sexual assault.

10:13 Raisman shared her story with Dr. John Lepook for 60 Minutes. You don't want to let yourself believe, you know, I am a victim of sexual abuse. Like it's really not an easy thing to let yourself believe that. You're saying you were sexually abused? Yes, absolutely. By the national team doctor? Yes. While you were out there representing your country? Yes. Few athletes have represented their country with as much distinction as Allie Raisman. The doctor she says abused her, Larry Nassar, worked with the U.S. Women's National Team and athletes at Michigan State University for more than two decades. Raisman says Nassar first treated her eight years ago when she was 15 years old. Now 23, she talks about her experiences in a new book called Fierce.

11:06 It's the story of a girl who dreamed of going to the Olympics and how she managed to get there. Raisman says she will not discuss the graphic details of what Nassar did to her, but she does provide new insight into a scandal that goes to the highest level of her sport. She told us a lot of people have asked her why Nassar's accusers didn't speak up sooner. Why are we looking at why didn't the girl speak up? Why not look at what about the culture? What did USA Gymnastics do and Larry Nassar do to manipulate these girls so much that they are so afraid to speak up? And we really need to categorize some of this stuff. I mean, this is child sexual abuse. This is different than workplace, which is harassment and is illegal.

11:50 It's different from trying to get laid I mean there's a million different versions of this but all is kind of being lumped in under one banner these this guy's horrible This guy needs to be arrested and put in a sanatorium. He's already in jail but he needs to be treated. He's got a head problem. So, let's... Yeah, so the whole gymnastics team apparently was... It's actually used by this guy. Yeah, he's... One of the other girls described it as like part of his routine for the checkup. Oh, nice. Now, before... I want to circle around to politics and more. I see that you have the clips, but let's do a couple other things. Before I do that, I want to throw in my prediction for what's next that has not been touched. Okay. And it's huge.

12:39 It's huge. What do you want? Do you want to do some current stuff and then get the prediction? No, I'm going to make the prediction right now. I'm going to get out of the way for it before somebody else beats me to it. In the potosphere. Another podcast might break it, man. Academia. Wow. Oh yes, very nice. Yeah, yeah, that's gonna and that's gonna be groovy. There's always academic stuff going on. It's gonna be groovy. I can't help it. It's gonna be groovy. Well, we've been we've been looking at well, there's a number of things obviously the the president will become will come under attack and I have some clips to clips to back that up and

11:50 It's different from trying to get laid I mean there's a million different versions of this but all is kind of being lumped in under one banner these this guy's horrible This guy needs to be arrested and put in a sanatorium. He's already in jail but he needs to be treated. He's got a head problem. So, let's... Yeah, so the whole gymnastics team apparently was... It's actually used by this guy. Yeah, he's... One of the other girls described it as like part of his routine for the checkup. Oh, nice. Now, before... I want to circle around to politics and more. I see that you have the clips, but let's do a couple other things. Before I do that, I want to throw in my prediction for what's next that has not been touched. Okay. And it's huge.

12:39 It's huge. What do you want? Do you want to do some current stuff and then get the prediction? No, I'm going to make the prediction right now. I'm going to get out of the way for it before somebody else beats me to it. In the potosphere. Another podcast might break it, man. Academia. Wow. Oh yes, very nice. Yeah, yeah, that's gonna and that's gonna be groovy. There's always academic stuff going on. It's gonna be groovy. I can't help it. It's gonna be groovy. Well, we've been we've been looking at well, there's a number of things obviously the the president will become will come under attack and I have some clips to clips to back that up and

13:24 But as we're still looking at the video on demand versus the big mainstream entertainment outlets, on show day, why not? On Thursday we heard from Louis C.K., which really ruined his comedy for me. This comedy, you know, it was always pretty funny and had a lot of masturbation jokes in there And I think guys think you know can can see the humor in that but now it's not that funny now You know that he's really doing all that stuff Here's the New York Times. What if his things he said he said hey, I've been talking about this, you know, yeah, I was stunned I'm stunned like oh man, you were really doing that the New York Times reported on it and they did a video which I thought was well worth playing because they really really

14:09 Stuck it to him. I'm a good father. I recycle and I masturbate and I'm proud of it and God's happy and later I'm gonna masturbate I'm gonna think about you. Louis CK has built one of the most successful careers in comedy. These days my problem is very simple It's trying to find a place in my house where I can masturbate without somebody bothering me And that's really difficult. With jokes about awkward encounters and sexual hang-ups. I was with one really hot woman once and she got very drunk and slept with me and the next morning she, I remember her looking down at me and she was so horrified. What? She just looked at me like, ugh, like I feel, like she had felt like she had raped herself with me.

14:58 He often discusses and mimes masturbation in his act. And he kept doing that gesture that guys like to do. That's my favorite dumb guy gesture. Now five women have told the New York Times that the comedian's riffs about masturbation have a disturbing connection to real life. Disturbing. The women allege that he either masturbated in front of them or asked if he could, or did it over the phone. Julia Wolof and Dana Min Goodman, a Chicago comedy duo, said that during a 2002 visit to Louis C.K.'s Aspen hotel room, he got completely naked and masturbated in a chair. The comedian Rebecca Corey said that while she was appearing with Louis C.K. on a television pilot in 2005, he asked if he could masturbate in front of her. She declined. I love the music too. That was really a nice touch, New York Times.

15:49 Yeah, he masturbated over the phone. And by the way, it was horrendous. He asked her and she declined. Scandalous! Scandalous, I tell you. But comedians often have, from what I've heard mainly from you, comedians really have a weird thing about sex. Not all of them, they're all perverts. I talked to Mimi about this last night and she said, She's you know said all comedians are perverts, but she said that and Mimi has a means She doesn't get the Louis CK story Because what does it take to if the guy comes out naked starts jerking off? She says what does it take for you as a woman to?

16:32 They're just, what the, what is this? Either tell the guy to stop it or just walk out of the room. What are you, to stand there and stare like a frozen deer in the headlights? Well see, that's the thing. No one really talked about that part of the story. It's just, here's what he did, here's what he asked, and boom, boom, count one. You're off the air. Yeah, no you're off the air and your careers. I don't know if his career is totally ruined, but he's got plenty of money But it's beside the point It's not like that like he's not this whole idea was to retire with a bunch of money at this age No, but yeah, it was it's the Louis C case or is a bit much That's the one that also convinces Mimi that this is about Netflix. Well. I have another Netflix tie-in and

17:17 There and this is an interesting one. You know we were looking at okay What are the bit what what are the big video on demand hits you know we named a couple of them and CNN did a town hall called tipping point With what's the woman's name Camerota and had a number of people there apparently also the woman who? invented the me to meme which I didn't know what came from an NGO and also on the show and She had, what is that guy's name? Matt McGorry. And Matt McGorry is one of the male leads in Orange is the New Black. We've kind of been waiting for that. So you can interpret his appearance on this show in two ways. Let's listen.

18:02 Welcome back to Tipping Point, a CNN town hall on sexual harassment. I'm Alison Camerota. Since the Weinstein news broke, more than 24 million people have posted a personal story with the hashtag MeToo. That's the campaign created by Tarana Burke, program director for the Brooklyn-based nonprofit Girls for Gender Equity. She is joining us now. It's so great to have you here. Thank you for having me. I also want to bring in Matt McCrory. He's an actor you might recognize from Orange is the New Black and How to Get Away with Murder. He's written about the role that good men need to play during this Me Too moment. Welcome to both of you. Matt, I want to start with you because I know that this is a confusing and skittish time for men. Just yesterday at work, a very nice guy said to me,

18:48 I know it's dangerous in this climate to say this, but that's a pretty dress you're wearing. I mean, has it gotten to the point where men are afraid to compliment women? Yes, that's what every HR training tells you to do. It's what I thwarted. That's exactly what I would say. Except I wouldn't disclaim it. I wonder if she would... If you take... You never took the course I did. I tried to just click through it. So I took the course and what you said is absolutely true. If you compliment a woman in California, this is a California course, if you compliment a woman in the workplace, you are subject to law to bring a suit. Yes. There's no doubt about that. Yeah. And that's where, fact, yes. Now listen to this next bit with this actor from Orange is the New Black. Afraid to compliment women. You know, I think

19:42 I think as men we tend to resist engaging in the questions in sort of a deeper way, right? So we're approaching this from a point of view where we're going through our own personal experience, which is not remotely close to what women are going through, right? So the only way we can really bridge that gap, and I'll speak to the fact that it was only three years ago for me personally that I began to ask these questions of myself and to consider this other perspective. So unless we can really close the gap by actually taking a proactive role in sort of educating ourselves about what it's like to be a woman. So, when he says, it was only three years ago when I became woke, what happened three years ago? Would be my question, Ms. Camerota.

20:21 Did he just wake up one day and went, hey, I'm a douchebag, I should stop that? Or is this a preemptive coming out of sorts to say, hey, you know, I was bad three years ago, but I figured it out and I've changed. Yeah, good catch. I'm curious to see what that is. Or it's just... That's the question you would ask. You're right. Did she ask it? No, please. CNN. No, no. So, it's either a preemptive strike, well it's probably a preemptive strike either way, Netflix sending this guy out like, hey, let's just, let's get some faces out there, we're all good. Or, oh shit man, you're up next! You're on deck bro! With your thing from three years ago. Then we had, uh, and I really like the Me Too meme, it's very important for women. Although it seems like we got a lot of gay stuff going on. Uh, George Takei, who said he was shocked and bewildered

21:20 that claims that he sexually assaulted a model in 1981. And what's interesting about this is this... Male model or female model? Male, male. That's the headline. I think you'd be more shocked than Bill Wilder. Yeah, that's when we'd be shocked. Scott Brunton. I think he's in something now. Isn't he in that Star Trek Dimension show or something? Well, there is one Star Trek guy that's in one of these Star Treks that went after somebody. This Spacey, I think, attacked him when he was 14 or something like that. I think that's the same guy. No, no, no. It's a different guy. This is a different guy. Okay. Well, anyway, and he says, I can't remember this. You know, I, what did he literally say? I'm shocked and bewildered. This simply did not occur. Now, whenever the president says something like this,

22:23 You know, we always pull up clips from Howard Stern. Ah, look at what he said here. Ha ha ha. We got you, sucker. Of course, the Howard Stern show is meant to be a little outrageous, but we might as well have a listen to all time show favorite George Takei. By the way, I suppose, you know, with this Harvey Weinstein thing in the news, of course, all over the news. Yes. That that it is the irony is we have a man in the White House who talked about grabbing? There is an irony about all of this is there not George well It's a repetition you know because all your years involved with cock you never Hassled anybody or grab anybody but a cock yeah, did you ever grab anyone by the cock against their will boy? They're so happy they can say cock on the radio. Isn't that well say cock a lot? This is one of the reasons that I mean

23:14 It's, that's one of the reasons I have with just gratuitous cussing. It's like, oh we can do it so let's do it. I'll wait until you hear the next clip I have. You never sexually harassed any a boner Have you It's some people that are kind of Skittish right or maybe afraid

23:52 And you're trying to persuade. But you know... Do we need to call the police? What is he saying, Howard? What are you saying, George? In other words, they were taught... But you never held a job over someone if they didn't... No, no, no, no, I never did that. Oh, I see. What did you? And work situations, though? It's about... It's not about sex. It's about power. Right. I see. It's about power. But you didn't do this grabbing at work. Oh no, no, it wasn't at work. Oh good. It was either in my home. Oh, okay. They came to my home. Well that was an open invitation. So what do you mean like- That's exactly where this guy claimed it happened by the way. At Takei's home. He does seem to remember now. Some guy who was hesitating to have sex with you and then you gave him a gentle squeeze on the balls or something?

24:38 More than a gentle So you see that makes spacey the bad guy yeah, I mean yes exactly sounds like the same thing is a Sort of a routine, but but decay is is okay. He's funny. It's okay if he does it I don't scandalous interview Good catch I'll give you a clip of the day. Oh, well. Thank you so much. That's you're too kind really I We're not done no I'm sure Here I'm gonna lead you into your more stuff. I'm glad you got that well before you do that before you leave me that I do have my Hollywood pervert

25:20 update with names more people. The dominoes continuing to fall in the world of entertainment. The dominoes have fallen! Actress Ellen Page writing in a Facebook post that at just 18 years old on the set of X-Men, Director Brett Ratner crudely outed her as gay in front of cast and crew. Co-star Anna Paquin backing those claims tweeting, I was there when that comment was made. I stand with you Ellen Page. Also today, ER's Anthony Edwards alleging producer Gary Goddard began abusing him at just 12 years old, writing, I was molested by Goddard and this went on for years. Neither Goddard nor Ratner responded to requests for comment.

26:06 The dominoes really beginning to fall. Rebecca Jarvis with us here tonight. There's late word involving Louis CK, another major production company, severing ties. Rebecca? That's right, David. FX Networks tonight announcing that they are severing all ties with Louis CK following in the footsteps of Netflix and HBO which have also severed their association. HBO has gone so far as to say they will be removing all of his content from their on-demand service. Wow! That's pretty harsh. You can't even look at Louis CK anymore. And by the way, I found this story to be peculiar because, and I don't want to use the word conflated. About the outing. What? Because it was about an outing. Yeah, how is that a sexual anything?

26:50 The director outed Ellen Page as gay because it was not obvious to anybody. It was not obvious. And how did he do that? Did he say, I mean, it depends. Hey, she's gay. I mean, what happened? You know, a little more context would be appropriate. What's that gay channel you watch all the time? They're outing people all the time. Gay TV. You know, they move the time of it. And I have not watched that for about six months. You should get back on your beat, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's good stuff. I know that and you're right that probably that channel, maybe they took it off the air. I don't know. I'll look into it because you're right that channel will have the best stuff. Yeah. But well, I found that to be a very peculiar to because Ellen Page was outed as gay. This is somehow a sexual harassment by this guy Ratner. Yeah.

27:41 And then this woman comes in on Twitter, oh I'm with you Ellen. With her for what? She's gay, so what? She's already, she's been gay, she said she's gay, what difference does it make now? She's a member of the gays. The gays. Well, not the gays. She is the gay. I want to point out. Oh yes, go ahead. Before we go to more, I do want to reiterate that Netflix of Why Netflix? If you wanted to talk about phishing, you get them from PayPal, probably more than from anyone else. You get them from newspaper. You get them from everywhere you get these phishing attacks trying to get your password or something. Ah, phishing PH. Yes, okay, I gotcha. So wait a minute, Netflix had something? Well, let's hear the report. Let me understand. All right, we're back now with a consumer alert. Stop, stop. Consumer alert. Stop.

28:50 At the very beginning of this clip I left it on because I found it at the very beginning of this clip you'll hear the hammering Okay, let's listen It's exactly it's exactly what it is and this is what's his name This is Lester Holden, NBC. And NBC is where Lawrence O'Donnell works. Stop the hammering! All right, we're back now with a consumer alert. A new warning for anyone with a Netflix account. Beware of certain emails that ask you to verify your account and provide bank or credit card information. They could be part of a so-called phishing scam. Cyber thieves pretending to be Netflix and victimizing unsuspecting customers. Here's NBC's Tom Costello with more.

29:41 Would you, ma'am? It's a scam targeting 110 million Netflix customers who don't want to lose access to their favorite shows. The fake suspension notification email, a phishing scam designed to get you to give up your information, reads, we were unable to validate your billing information. Simply click restart your membership to update your details. In Kansas, 23-year-old Skylar Stephen clicked on the link. I gave them my debit card information and then they cleaned me out of $2,000. and they opened up 40 to 45 bank accounts in my name. On its website Netflix says it may email you account information with a link to our website but be cautious of fake emails that may link to phishing websites. But that's not so easy. This real-time map from ThreatCloud shows the world is under constant cyber attack and phishing emails are now falling

30:33 far more sophisticated than those emails we've all received from so-called Nigerian princes. If I put a phishing email up against a real email that are developed by some of these advanced adversaries, it is almost impossible to tell which one's the good one and which one's the bad one. They've gotten better. They've gotten much better. Netflix suggests hovering your cursor over web links to see if the address looks legitimate or suspicious. The answer is never click on a link in an email and provide information that you wouldn't give to somebody on the street. I'm surprised they didn't have the pew pew sound on the live threat map. And by the way, I got one more second half of this clip because something funny was said at the end. But they showed this map. I don't know where they got this one. It wasn't from the group that we normally look at. It wasn't Crowdfire? Cloudfire? No, no, it was something else. Oh, maybe they've updated it. I can't remember. They had a... No, it was some other... But they only had like one... There was nothing going on on this map. It was just static.

31:30 or it stopped or something. Here's the one, this very end of this thing, I want to play this, this is the age old advice. This is the, this, I have to make a comment about this. Never click on a link in an email and provide information that you wouldn't give to somebody on the street. Age old advice that never gets old. Tom Costello, NBC News, Washington. Here comes a peeve. How is this age-old advice? And as a phrase from the Shays, does that mean pay attention old people or what does it really say? No, the reason it's better is old, you know, stitch in time saves night. I mean, take, you know, it's a phrase that's supposed to be age-old. But how is age-old something that probably began in the late 90s, 1990s? It's not even 20 years old, this whole phenomenon of fishing.

32:18 And I mean the web started pretty much in 92-93, so how is the, at least or the browser style web, the web was... Yeah, mosaic, mosaic. But it's beside the point. This is not age-old advice. I got it. It's not. This is the way they write these stories. Okay now back to Netflix for a second Yeah, and one of our producers sent me an announcement from 2013 August 20th Netflix and the Weinstein company announced multi-year premium pay TV window agreement in the United States Netflix to become the exclusive pay TV home of high quality feature films

33:00 of the Weidenstein company. So there's a little more going on. There's a much bigger relationship than I was even aware of. Oh, I knew that one. I didn't know this. Yeah. He's connected to Netflix too. Yeah, even though... So they're out to get... I mean, I'm... Totally. I'm in on this theory that Netflix is really the target here. Yeah, or any other video. But how are they going to hurt Netflix by making all their producers go someplace else? I don't know, maybe they make them go someplace else. Well, I think it's not just this video on demand in general. So House of Cards, we'll never see it again. It was a fun show and over. They took it out way late in its life. I mean, nobody cares. I haven't watched House of Cards for years.

33:43 I watched the first season and part of the second season that was done. Me neither, but you know, I think it was successful. I think this is a very poor attack. I think this is just going to backfire on these idiots. Okay, let's get back to the presidential part where we have CNN Sally Cohn talking about, you know, I think it was probably about Moore and there was some other dude on in a a try box and the expected argument came up. sexually assaulted Sally I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna bring up William Jefferson Clinton but I'm well no I wasn't gonna go there I was actually gonna say with Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby but since you brought it up where were the Democrats denouncing him which show again the pattern in which you're referring

33:00 of the Weidenstein company. So there's a little more going on. There's a much bigger relationship than I was even aware of. Oh, I knew that one. I didn't know this. Yeah. He's connected to Netflix too. Yeah, even though... So they're out to get... I mean, I'm... Totally. I'm in on this theory that Netflix is really the target here. Yeah, or any other video. But how are they going to hurt Netflix by making all their producers go someplace else? I don't know, maybe they make them go someplace else. Well, I think it's not just this video on demand in general. So House of Cards, we'll never see it again. It was a fun show and over. They took it out way late in its life. I mean, nobody cares. I haven't watched House of Cards for years.

33:43 I watched the first season and part of the second season that was done. Me neither, but you know, I think it was successful. I think this is a very poor attack. I think this is just going to backfire on these idiots. Okay, let's get back to the presidential part where we have CNN Sally Cohn talking about, you know, I think it was probably about Moore and there was some other dude on in a a try box and the expected argument came up. sexually assaulted Sally I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna bring up William Jefferson Clinton but I'm well no I wasn't gonna go there I was actually gonna say with Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby but since you brought it up where were the Democrats denouncing him which show again the pattern in which you're referring

34:45 jack the difference between bill clinton and donald trump's that bill clinton was impeached so we aired that one as a public and also he's not currently the president listen this is fine i'm fine watching this roy moore thing go down because with uh you know condolences to the poor state and of course the women who uh who he's abused and made suffer, we are watching the destruction of the Republican Party before our very eyes. They're doing themselves systemic damage for generations, and I'm here for it. Well, they're really hoping to get Trump. They are, I mean. Really, really hoping to get that.

35:30 And is the Republican Party sustaining systemic damage from this? Here's a couple of problems with them. We're going to talk about Judge Roy Moore, who is a... I want to lead into it for you. Okay, two more. Okay. I think Matthews... You have to explain who this guy is. Yeah, we'll get to him. We'll get to him. Matthews, is he the one that has the book out that's going everywhere or is it O'Donnell? I get confused. I think it's Matthews. Yeah, about the 60s because he lived it so he can talk about it and he was on the real time with Bill Maher and You know something that is rarely brought up is you know, we're talking about the horrible Democrats the horrible Republicans Here's you know something about the horrible Democrats which just kind of like oh, yeah. Well, whatever in light of all these Sex scandals lately. What do you what do you say about the Kennedy's? Oh

36:19 Bobby and Jack were both I don't think it's important. I don't think that's the important thing about them Okay, may not be the important thing, but certainly they did people's lives. They did they did things back then Fill me in well, just tell me okay, and I'll respond to each point well I know he's clearly on the defensive like no no this is only Republicans who do this and But henmar lays a one-liner on him and he retorts very funny Yeah, be specific. What day was that? Yeah, here it comes. Just tell me and I'll respond to each point. Well, I think Kennedy certainly was fucking a mafia courier. Yeah, that was a problem. There you go. Yeah, it was a problem. It doesn't matter. We'll just move along people. That's really the double standard is showing quite... The double standard is based on perceived hypocrisy.

37:19 perceived hypocrisy. Interesting. Yeah, and I think this is what we're going to probably talk about a little bit about Farage later. If I get to it, which is his affair. But it's that the Democrats, having been both a Democrat or Republican, now an independent, I can pretty, I think I can say this. The Democrats are the kind of hedonistic party that that believes in free love They don't believe in understanding. I think if you looked at people in Nambla, for example, I think that's the man boy love association. Yes. Yeah. I haven't looked at people there for a while. If you don't mind. Thanks for the advice. There's a, there's a, I think that there is a, the Democrats are,

38:09 are the ones who keep bringing up the sex revolution. They were all in for you. They were really happy. That was a happy era when before AIDS and after the birth control pill, that was the highlighted by the highest moments of Democrats. And the McKinsey report, was that it? McKinsey? Kinsey? Kinsey, I think. Kinsey. Yeah. Maybe, but that was actually came much sooner than the sexual revolution which began with the birth control pill. And so they point out that because the Republicans are supposed to be the moral, I don't believe this to be true, but they're pinned with moral authority. We're all better than now. After marriage, it's great. But the Democrats have fallen into the same kind of trap about this. After marriage, it's great. Don't have sex with underage girls. I want to read something.

39:08 And I don't think you should have sex with underage girls either, but I want to at least put it in some historical context. This is from Wikipedia, it has a nice opening, because I was looking for the age of consent in Alabama where this Judge Roy Moore comes from and it's 16. But historically, the southern states generally have, I've seen states with 14. I think New Mexico years ago was 13. But let's read from this, the history of the United States so you can get a little idea of how this has evolved. And how it's evolved is kind of in the Republican way, it's become more puritanical.

39:49 Let me read this. I'll read directly from this. Over the course of American history, the most commonly observed age of consent was 10. In 1880, 37 states had an age of... Hold on, hold on, John. People also died when they were 30. So you had to hurry up. Well, I don't think the age of death was 30 in 1880. Okay. I mean, maybe in Africa it was, but I don't think that's true. I mean, we had, and Franklin lived a long life, Jefferson, all the rest of these guys who weren't, they drank a lot too. They drank so much by comparison to today's alcoholics, it's not even comparable. In 1880, 37 states had an age of consent of 10, while 10 states kept an age consent at 12. And Delaware, Joe Biden's state, maintained its age of consent at seven.

40:47 Having lowered it. Good times. Having lowered it from 10 in 1871. It used to be 10, they lowered it to 7. Now, I have a chart here. Life expectancy, what year are we talking about? 18 what? 1880. 1880 looks like 39. In the United States? Not sure. Keep going, I'll find more info. I don't believe it was 37 in the United States. If you average around the world perhaps well here, okay? Here is why this is from the Atlantic take it or leave it Oh life expectancy Wikipedia has a page on this here. We go. It seems like 40 was pretty much the max here at 19 18th century That's all China Yeah, all right still yeah seven yeah See seems a bit on the young side

41:51 In the late 19th century, something got leaped out here, composed of, there's this movement, a morality movement began composed of, in the late 19th century, 1890s, composed of Christian feminist reform groups. They began advocating a raise in the age of consent to 16 with the goal of raising it ultimately to 18, which it is. And by 1920, almost all states had raised their age of consent to 16 or 18. And this is a Christian feminist reform group. And so that's where the current age has come from. It doesn't come from a hit, but you know, this normal old age, what used to be considered, in fact, until only recently, Canada was 14.

42:39 And it got jumped up because the parliament was irked about all these. Apparently, they said something like, they're sick of these perverts from the United States coming into Canada to screw our girls. I think it was exactly that language they used too in Parliament. Might have been. By the mid 70s, there was widespread sympathy among homosexual activist groups for lowering the age of consent for all sexual activities, partially due to the disparate ages of consent for same-sex and opposite-sex sexual activity, with many gay publications freely discussing lowering it for boys. These tensions and antagonisms continued throughout activist circles until the 80s.

43:24 In the 70-some groups promoting frontline advocacy against the age of consent were falling into decline. A small number of voices continued in the 2000s among self-declared pedophiles on certain websites and chat rooms. The two final states legislating their age of consent into the 15 to 18 range were Georgia and Hawaii from 14, raised in 95 in 2001. So this guy, and I don't want to condemn people from Alabama, but Judge Moore was I don't know what was going on in Alabama, but in terms of what was okay to do and not to do. So this took place 40 years ago in the 1970s. This Judge Roy, who was running for US Senate, was trying to date 14, 15, and 16 year olds.

44:17 I'm not sure what the situation was there, but this information just comes out now, just before the election. Yeah, you know, everyone is very suspicious. I have a quick, quick little PBS hit 30 seconds to lead you into your clips. The journalist who on Porter and I spent weeks in Alabama chasing these leads and reaching out to a lot of people. And when we did reach the women who are quoted in the story today, none of them initially were willing to speak on the record. They were all very reluctant to share their story publicly. And it was only after multiple interviews with them that they decided to come forward.

45:21 So many weeks she was working on it? That's interesting. She must have gone right after the Weinstein revelations and thought, ah, there must be something wrong with that guy. I find it peculiar that right-wing talkers are all bitching about this, especially Levin, Mark Levin, Mark Levin, the great one. He is the one who's brought a very long exposition on how did this happen. Now, these four women that are being cited in the story didn't know each other. And how did they find them in the first place? And it's just a pretty shady, it seems like a very shady story.

46:01 Whether it's true or not, and there's a lot of whether it's true or not, you know, responses to it, including one guy who says, well, you know, they talked about Mary and Joseph got married and he was an older carpenter and she was a kid. And that's when you're, you're, you're, average age of death is 35 even though there were some people live to be hundreds apparently in the Bible. But that's just a gratuitous slam. The thing is very, all the way this is covered, what bothers me, I don't like this guy more. I think he's a douchebag and it comes out that he's a douchebag. But what the Democrats are trying to do here is to make him look like a pedophile, which I don't believe is the case.

46:46 I mean, being a horn dog and a douchebag. And just having seen a little bit of Saturday Night Live from last night, totally trying to make him look like a southern douchebag Republican hick. Yeah. I mean, the guy does not actually wear a cowboy hat and overalls and boots. But that's that's happening. This is that this is a smear and it's a hit piece And I want to play a few things where I think it's coming from this is this is let's start with hmm Let's start with more on hat when he came on to Hannity and he kind of he's a very he's very poor at defending himself because he's not defending himself what he's doing is

47:29 He's kind of admitting to all this, but let's listen to more on Hannity. I think this was taken from one of the news shows. He does not remember. Would it be unusual for you as a 32-year-old guy to have dated a woman as young as 17? That would be a 15-year difference or a girl 18. Do you remember dating girls that young at that time? Not generally, no. If I did, you know, I'm not going to shoot anything, but I don't remember anything like that. He added this. I don't remember ever dating any girl without the permission of her mother. And more defiant, saying he's not going to drop out of the race. Senate Republicans torn. Most not calling on Moore to drop out just yet. I'm not going to be the judge and jury, but boy, if those allegations are true, there's no way he should run for or serve in the United States Senate.

48:19 Hmm couple of things if I did is not was something you say when you're denying something. No no not really He asked somebody a question that well, no I didn't do it, but if I did I wouldn't wear a red shirt I'd wear her blue shirt And he says he makes this thing, and if I did, I've always asked for permission from the mothers. This means he's dating teenagers or girls who are living at home in Alabama back then in the 70s. I don't know what the process was to be a gentleman. He probably was a Dixiecrat. I would assume he was a Democrat at the time, to be honest about it. And so there was something going on where the mom gave permission.

49:03 to date these teens, I'm guessing. And that may have been fine of... It could have been okay in that particular culture at that particular time for all we know. No one's discussing this with any Alabamans. They're just making everyone look like a bunch of douchebags and incest. I'm surprised that hasn't come into the picture. Oh, you can wait for it. It's on the way. Yeah, I guess so. Hold on, hold on. Yeah, incest is knocking. Yeah, it's just to be here any minute, especially if it involves the South. Everybody in the South is, you know... Everyone makes jokes about you can't get around it. Can't help it. So let's play another one. This is a little insightful. This is more... This is a CBS report that brings in John Dickerson. They're talking about new standards, which I think is interesting.

49:52 More. New standards. Oh, got it. I was looking for CBS. Mitt Romney wrote on Twitter, quote, innocent until proven guilty is for criminal convictions, not elections. I believe Lee Korfman, her accounts too serious to ignore. More is unfit for office and should step aside. What do you make of that, John? Well, you know, Romney's kind of started to play this voice as the moral voice of the Republican Party speaking out in moral terms when there's that clash with between morals and political success. But in this case, he's talking about a new standard in the wake of the Harvey Weinstein stories and other stories about sexual predators. The standards are changing.

50:33 Predators have used lack of absolute proof to escape punishment and have often lashed out at their accusers. But now institutions from Hollywood to corporate America, to the Senate, are learning how to listen to women who are making these accusations. And what Romney's essentially doing is he's applying that new standard, saying you don't need absolute proof. You can have a certain amount of evidence. He's seen the evidence and he says it meets the test. So guilty until proven innocent is okay in everything except the court of law and criminal activity. A lynch mob mentality. Sounds like a plan to me. Yeah, this is a, sounds just like that guy. This is what got, is getting the Republicans into trouble is this concept to begin with. I mean, this Moore guy has to be dealt with in whatever way. I think he should be elected and then quit because it's just an attempt to get the Democrat into a solid Republican position.

51:31 Here's where I think Moore is a douchebag. Let's play the Moore sub clip on family values. This is Moore. In a statement she said, it's a stunning admission that the GOP is not a party of family values. Certainly not in Alabama. So this is what they're doing to the Republicans. Yeah, this is, yeah, it's, hey, you are the family values people. No, we know what that means. And this goes, traces back to the sexual revolution, which the Democrats are kind of ignoring right now because they want to go out, you guys, you bad people. So here's Moore making a fool of himself. Moore, the root cause of his problem.

52:10 Okay. He built his political career as a crusader for morality, an arbiter of right and wrong. Crime, corruption, immorality, abortion, sodomy, sexual perversion sweep our land. But today, former Judge Roy Moore speaking out against claims that he himself was a sexual predator. These allegations are completely false and misleading. Well, now that's interesting. Hold on a second, because again, we're miscategorizing. So because he dated, sounds like he dated a 17 year old with permission from her mom in the 70s. That's what it sounds like. Yeah. That's not a predator practice necessarily. No, not if he's asking for permission. No. But okay.

52:57 But this is the thing that I think, or is hanging himself, which is his previous hang and judge style of everything's bad, sexual perversion is sweeping the nation, and sodomy, which is a real point of contention in the South and amongst the Democrats in particular. Sodomy is defined as besides anal intercourse, it's also oral sex of any sort is considered sodomy by the Yes, yes, correct. And this is not and this is there are anti-sodomy laws in Georgia and I maybe there might be but I'm sure that they want them to be there in Alabama. These are states that are dominated by two specific religions, the Baptists and the Methodists. But you say that you said the Democrats hate it too? The Democrats hate the sodomy. Well, that's interesting. They hate the sodomy laws. Oh, OK. I was going to say they hate the guy, this guy going on and on and preaching about

53:52 perversion and free sex and all the stuff that the Democrats have traditionally been all for. And so they see this guy as a hypocrite, which is what they love to find. Democrats love to find hypocrites. And the hypocrite, they point and point and point, he's got to go, he's got to go, he's got to go. When in fact it was a Democrat and he wasn't a hypocrite saying all these things, it'd be fine. No problem, because he's not a hypocrite. You can't elect a hypocrite. Let me read you an article here about a recent class taught at Harvard University on Tuesday, in fact. It was a... let's see, a workshop. Do you hear... I hear something weird. It's like... it's like I hear some kind of strange echo. Stop the hammering! Wait, I hear... 1, 2, 2, 2, 1, 2... I don't know where it's coming from. Very odd. Anyway, as a part of said, the Ivy League University Sex Week, which launched Monday and runs... well, I guess it ends today. They had a class titled, What What In The Butt? Anal 101.

54:56 Uh, the presenter of the- leading the workshop passed out gloves and butt plugs to students as she offered instructions on anal sexual techniques. What? And the good news is... Everybody has a butthole. It's the great sexual equalizer. All humans have a butthole. This is what the class was all about. At Harvard? Yeah. Wow. I- I hear some kind of echo, like a speaker's open or something. Two, one- oh, no, one. Two two two you're hearing yourself. Maybe it may speak. Maybe you're not I can turn down my sound could be you maybe Oddly be two one two maybe no it sounds like it's here. Oh, maybe a loop open there somewhere Let me just check and we see what's going on. This is not good. You don't hear that no I don't hear anything Okay, anyway. We'll just continue. I'll have to fix it after the show just as irritating me I

55:55 Anyway, you know so this like you can't have it both ways apparently at Harvard you can I Didn't just slipped out Talent everybody it's talent All right, I'll shut up now. That's our silliness yeah, so that is outrageous, but this is going this is just to me. It's a This whole thing is just a some sort of a high meta joke and I can't put my fingers on but everybody's all in on it including The moral that all of a sudden the Democrats are always all out of the blue Moralists, yeah, I guess you don't did not paying attention to this class if there are moralists. They wouldn't put up with something like that, but okay Let's play the last clip by having this series about more the judge This is the

56:53 Brooks and Shields on comes on only once a week now on Fridays on the PBS NewsHour and they must have spent a half an hour talking about this both from this exact same so it's clearly just all politically motivated. That's what it's about. Oh, it's yes. It's very politically motivated And he by the way wanted to go back to that previous clip where I had to mention this he says more dick says this is not true, and it's misleading he keeps saying misleading and Which is... Well, yeah, I think he's right. It's misleading because he's calling him a sexual predator where he dated a 17-year-old. He says he dated a 17-year-old with her mother's permission. Yes, then the lead is misleading. And by the way, why are the Democrats promoting, especially since Hollywood is like one of their strongholds, why are they promoting this guy was 30-something and she was 17 and there was a 14-year-old too? I guess that's a real problem.

57:55 the 17 and 16 year olds. Hollywood is a kind of a miss, you know, an arena of people younger marrying older all the time. Yes. And I am. So now how is this a finger pointing moment? I'm living proof of that. Yeah, you are. You are kind of. You're not the worst case scenario. So let's listen. So they go on and on Brooks and Shields. They go on for a good half hour about this guy, all lamenting, oh, the Republicans are screwed now. They're never going to recover from this. And Trump's a bad guy too. So let's just I only have a piece of this, but I want to get a little taste of it. There's more Brooks and Shields. I just think I think this thing is headed very south in a big hurry for the Republicans in a bad way. Do you see this as a test somehow for Republicans, David?

58:41 Yeah, I think it's a test for Republicans, especially in this regard. This is a predicate for what, if Bob Mueller comes with charges to Donald Trump, he's going to say fake news, fake news, fake news. And that's more or less what a lot of people in the Trumpian movement are doing. No fact is fact. The fact they don't like is just fake news. And if the Washington Post, with a very well well-sourced story can't be believed and can be just dismissed as fake news, then everything can be dismissed as fake news. And we've lost all sense of reality, basically. And so I think the party, not only to behavior about harassment, has to show some spine, but on the basic respect for truth, if we can't have some basic respect for truth,

59:24 That's how it ends. I faded it out because he just kept talking. I thought the effect would be a little better, but it didn't quite work. So that's what we've got here and it's You know, it's where I see it as Alabama's business is the Alabama Republican Party has got to deal with it. And they put this guy who seems to me to be a real douche in reality. But not because he was dating 17 year olds when he was 30. But let's go to a little more meta level. I grew up in Europe where you would belong to a sport club.

1:00:05 And I'll say the Netherlands is not 100% typical Europe, but you know, it definitely some Europe in the 70s was, you know, you go to the, your sports club and there would be co-ed showers and it was normal. And you know, the human body was seen as the human body, not necessarily to be sexualized all the time. Prostitution in the Netherlands, has not officially been legal, and it's like marijuana is not officially on the books as legal. But I, the way I grew up and saw that it was a pressure release for very stressed men and it, and even wives and mothers would agree that, you know, so, so Joe goes to the, he sees the hooker once a week and it keeps everything calm. Not saying that's good or bad. I'm just saying that there was a lot of thought

1:00:57 about nature and there's no doubt that men in our DNA is this spread your seed thing which is why all your organs work until you know until you're a hundred maybe I don't know if you're lucky and women it ends you know in their 50s and along with often not always but often sexual drive a whole bunch of things happen Then we have this very odd puritanical vibe in the United States, which only having grown up outside of it do you really see. that everything, everything is over-sexualized. Sex is around us all the time, mainly on television, mainly in magazines, mainstream. Just pick up anything. Everything is airbrushed, sexy, hot. Every message is, you won't get laid if you don't drink this beer, buy this truck. All of that. It's continuously pounding on us, yet

1:01:55 We can't talk about it. We can't do it. We can't sodomize. On the other hand, we have, we are the porn industry. Although I'll give the Germans the golden shower stuff belongs to the Germans. But really America has the best porn. We invented the best porn on the internet. Yeah, we can't watch it, you can't talk about it. It's no wonder guys are going crazy. They have no outlet. I think that, you know, we're under attack. And I'm not saying that that is okay, what the result is of that, but that also needs to be looked at. There's no other... well actually, look at Japan. Japan also has all kinds of sexual issues.

1:02:47 And they completely over-sexualize children all the time. No one really talks about that. Actually, the over-sexualized children, which you witnessed when you were over there. I see it on Mastodon every single day. Are you kidding me? Yeah. As long as there's no pubic hair, then it's okay. So there's all kinds, but our culture particularly here in America and I think the United Kingdom has similar issues. They're all very, very, very, you know, oh let's do this, all this stuff, sneaky. Oh, I have to do it all sneaky. But, you know, in the meantime, they're also over sexualized there.

1:03:25 So, but there's something in particular about America and it goes back to, I guess, our religious roots. Where does the term puritanical come from? From the Puritans, the first group in the 1600s that came over. There you go. Some of those ships. There you go. Those assholes ruined it. They ruined it. Northeast, when I say Northwest, sorry. Northeast, the freezing cold colonies. And well, then here we come back to this, which is this politicized because we have the, and I want to say the Democrats are the big hypocrites here. It just seems to me that they're pointing all this stuff out as though it's bad when they think it's good.

1:04:08 Yeah, well they only, yes exactly, and they're only doing that for political reasons. Yeah, so they can get their guy in. Right. And they're keeping this thing boiling as best they can so by the time 2018 rolls around they hope to God and they have good signals from the last little election that took place a week or two ago. In Virginia, you know, already blue state, but okay, they didn't get it, they didn't lose, that's a plus. So things are going their way and they knock this guy out of the box. I mean, I think the guy could, you know, the guy's gonna be under fire and he could lose. He would win if he did the following. Of course, there's a curry to work consulting idea. I mean, you've given it away. He said, okay, I'm gonna lose. They get show me. I'm going to he's not gonna quit the election. He's gonna say, here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna continue to run because the Republicans cannot field anybody because it's too late. It's right near the end. Coincidentally.

1:04:59 that they busted me for this. But I know that this is bullcrap, but I'm gonna run, I'm gonna get elected, and then I'm gonna turn it over to somebody else. I'll resign after I'm elected. And if he clearly if he feels that he's not guilty, why would he do that? Well, he's not going to do because he feels he's not guilty. So he's not gonna do that. I'm just saying that would work All right. Well, I'm I'm very tired of the politicization of it. I think the Trying to bring down the video on demand guys Netflix is very funny to watch. I like that a lot I will thoroughly enjoy academia as you predict and I think you're probably right and

1:05:38 And you sent me an email the other day, what is going on? What does this tell us on a bigger level? Which is what I was thinking about. And all I can come up with is, you know, particularly in Hollywood, you're making sexy films. All the time. What do you expect? Seriously, what do people expect? We want all the sexy movies, we want Orange is the New Black, lesbians, wah! Let's sexualize lesbians on TV. Yeah, I know. It's just the damnedest thing to watch. But then, you know, head scratchers like Charlie Sheen now being accused of raping Corey Haim when Corey Haim was 13 on the set of Lucas. I mean, whoa. Stranger Things, another Netflix hit.

1:06:32 Finn Wolfhard condemns gross 27 year old model who sexualized him. Doesn't mean that anything... What does that mean? You can't even be... Sexualized. Yeah, you can't even be... What does that mean? Let's see what he said. American model Allie Michael garnered controversy last week by posting an image of Wolfhard on her Instagram with the caption, not to be weird, but hit me up in four years. She later apologized, claiming it was never her intention. Oh, I see. So this kid is one of the kids on Stranger Things. And a model posted on Instagram, ah, you'll be hot. I'll talk to you in a couple of years when you're of age. Horrible. Can't say that. No. Creepy. Can't do it. You know, nobody can even be playful, which is what that was. Exactly. And he should have taken it as a compliment.

1:07:34 But he didn't because he's a Puritan in Hollywood? Is that what we're dealing with now? I mean, it just makes zero sense to me. Here, let's play this last thing, which is the apparently SAG. They don't know what to do beside themselves. So they've got a new hotline. The Screen Actors Guild. They have a new, they have a hotline they've opened up. Now the union says there's been a 500% increase in calls to their hotline since the scandal first broke last month. But so far, Anthony, police have not sent any cases to the district attorney. Carter Evans in Hollywood. Thanks, Carter. Hey, here's another one. Do you remember Blue Lagoon? Brooke Shields? Yeah, Brooke Shields. How old was she when she did that movie? 16 or 17. No, I think she was younger than 16, John.

1:08:20 Maybe and you know there's a great example of over sexualization in the movies to the Blue Lagoon Well, what here's a better one? I can't remember the name of the movie, but it was one of the first year She was 14. She was 14 years old when she did Blue Lagoon, okay? Well, let's do the movie that Susan Sarandon one of her first movies when she was like 14 And she bares her breasts. Oh no. In this movie. Not a boo. Oh no. That should be illegal. And to top it off, Susan Sarandon, a great notable liberal who maybe voted for Trump, no one's talking about that, but because she hated Hillary.

1:09:02 She would constantly, because I remember I would watch it. She'd be on talk shows like she got a lot of a lot of ink and she would constantly on talk show. She'd show up on the Carson and she she always brag about her breasts. She'd say, I probably have the best looking breasts in Hollywood. Susan Sarandon said this. Oh yeah. If you ask her, she'd say that now. She probably still claims it. She might have nice breasts. I don't really want to hear it. She washed the pictures of her with no top on, which are around. You can find them on the web. She's got tremendous breasts. They're fantastic. On a scale of one to ten, would you? They're well balanced. They're balanced. You know, you got the same, just not one of them's not way up in the air and the other one sags. I mean, you don't have any of those issues. You know, and I'm just pointing out another thing. We would have been fired for even doing this segment. Hold on. I give you Bernie Sanders. There she is. She is crying. Yeah, that's her today. And there's nothing wrong with that. I have no problem with breasts.

1:10:03 And what is wrong? I remember the Super Bowl when Justin Timberlake exposed Janet Jackson's nipple in an otherwise pretty artful little performance. Yeah, I didn't see the big deal. Half a million dollar fine. Children who might have seen a nipple just years ago attached to their mother, they see one on television, they're going to be ruined. That's my problem with all of this. America, get your shit together. Seriously. If you're going to over-sexualize everything and everybody, everywhere, this is what you get. Well, Harvey Weinstein's still a creep. Massive. But that's different. People trying to hit on people. Again, that brings us right back to the beginning of our little segment, which is a scandalous outing of Ellen Page by a director is somehow a sexual

1:10:59 attack of some sort. I think that you can use this for publicity, and I think that you should out me, and I'll make a big deal about it. You're gay. Oh man, you outed me, I can't believe it! I'm gonna show my salute by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. On No Agenda, morning! Do you have Dame Astrid's note? Yes, I do actually. Okay, good. I have to look up Spencer's. I do have Scarpula. We only have three again. We're slowing down here as the year ends and we would hope that people that haven't donated and didn't donate during the 10th anniversary would come in with something. But we do have

1:11:52 Sir Marshall Scapula, who actually was, and make sure he's on the Baron list, who actually sent a check through his bank to the show, and it was probably two or three weeks ago, so I don't even count him as one of the donors for today's show, even though he is. Yeah, he's on the list. And came in late. Yeah, he's on. Anyway, I'll read it. He has a note. He sent in $438.28 from Henderson, Nevada. I've been making this odd-ass 4328 donation, or I'm making this odd-ass 43828 donation, which at double credit pushes me into club baron. I'll let you be known as Sir Marshall Baron of Henderson, and by being a baron, I command all loyal subjects in my fiefdom to bow down and pay homage to the best podcast in the multiverse, also fork over a few dollars. Producers create new jingles for the multiverse. I command it.

1:12:51 Barren power is clearly going to my head. Adam, please add most Most most a Chio Chioli. I know what most a Chioli most a Chioli? M-o-s-t-a-c-c-i-o-l-i. It's like a noodle or something and Margaritas to the feast. There's nothing like a delicious margarita with a bowl of homemade pasta. Okay, most mostly most a Choli most a Chioli Chioli I think most a Choli most and what was the other one? Margaritas. Margaritas. OK, sounds like it sounds like a recipe for success to me. He nailed it again. You know what I completely did the segment wrong. I opened the segment with the jingle instead of John C. Dvorak. Where the C stands for what? Well, I don't know because I didn't do the segment so I'd have to go back and listen to me not saying it. Also give business card to my hot wife

1:13:52 Chin Fang citing acting karma to Tony Farmer and job karma to Mark Ross. Also send Mark a douchebag call out. Douchebag! I think he needs a cleansing. So we need a... A de-douching and a jobs karma, sounds like. Multiple karma including jobs, sounds like. Yeah, job. Yeah, I think business would be jobs that would give that. You've been deduced. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. And before you continue then, let me, uh, let me thank all of our artists because I forgot that. Let me thank all of our artists for their work that they do on, uh,

1:14:41 For our album art and in particular I want to thank the artists for episode 9 or 8 0 title of that was King Tide This was the in the event of nuclear attack call uber Mike Riley did that for us? And we appreciate that no agenda art generator calm and in the morning to the troll room as well of course no agenda stream calm Everyone's always in there when we're live okay Scott Spencer And I'm looking on the email for Scott. I got a thing from Scott. Hold on a second. I didn't get any. Yeah, he was mad. And he was mad at you, which is why it's even more... Scott Spencer, $333, mad at me. Yeah. You got it or not? No, I don't have anything. He sent it to you obviously, because he figured I won't read it. Well, let me see. Maybe... wasn't it... Okay, Scott Spencer... hold on. Damn. I sent that to Eric. This is odd.

1:15:41 Well now I can't find it, dammit. Well just look in your outbox if you sent it to Eric. Oh, what an idea. Hold on a second. Good idea. Outbox. No. Probably sent from a different email client and didn't copy it to the sent box. Darn, well it was I think we forgot his birthday again. Maybe it's a maybe that's Scott Morgan Okay, then I don't have a Scott Spencer. I'm sorry. I'm wrong not a Morgan We forgot his birthday and his lovely wife's birthday. Okay, so we're gonna do it today. They should be on the list I mean they're on the list right I have no Scott Spencer. Sorry. Yeah, you may have sent Morgan's thing to Eric I did too

1:16:22 Dame Astrid, Duchess of Japan, $272.27. And she has an email that she sent you can read. Yeah, she says, Dear John and Adam, it's a dear John letter. After so many 10 year anniversary accolades and the urge to still wanting to express my deepest gratitude to your mental health service, but lacking new expressions to do so, I looked up synonyms of congratulation. I found the word panegyric, panegyric? Pangeric? P-A-N-E-G-Y-R-I-C? Pangeric? Yeah, I don't know. From the 17th century from French, Panagiric? Via Latin, from Greek, Panagurkos of public assembly from Pan all plus Aguris, Agora, assembly. I thought this was very fitting for no agenda. That's a phrase from the very old Shays, Dame Astrid.

1:17:15 Please keep those words from the Shays coming, Adam. I love it when you put on that Dutch accent. Dame Astrid, Duchess of Japan and all the disputed islands in the Japan Sea. Well, thank you very much, Dame Astrid. And I, uh, when appropriate, I will, uh, throw a little Dutch accent out for you. Yeah. Says she's a Dutch... S. Since you're a duchess, we might as well do it for you right now, eh? And I give you some Karma II grades! Cool, man. You've got Karma. So that will be all we got and we're hit up. That was it? That was it. Yeah, you got it. Alright, well we do have another show coming up on Thursday. I hope you all participate in the Value for Value model. We bring you the value, you give us whatever you think it was worth at... Whatever you learn today, take that! Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, slave! Squirrel! Shut up, slave!

1:18:28 Alright. And, but I'm going to play this two clips here. One of them says one and one says two and this is the finish the sentence. I'm just a new idea. I want you to see if you can finish the sentence. Oh, okay. So it's a two-parter. I presume the actual sentence finishing is in clip number two. Yes. I know how the game works and we're ready to go. And now let's

1:19:11 Now let's play Finish the Sentence. Good morning. Even before this report came out, Republican leaders here on Capitol Hill were keeping their distance from Moore, who has suggested that Muslims should not hold higher office and that 9-11 was an inside job. Good morning. Even before this report came out, Republican leaders here on Capitol Hill were keeping their distance from Moore, who has suggested that Muslims should not hold higher office and that 9-11 may have been God's punishment for America. Oh, I should have gotten that one because I remember reading that somewhere. That's pretty bad. I like the game. I like this game.

1:19:58 I'm gonna be ready for the next one. Yeah, and you can tell what you know, I see the see way how it's set up It's set up to trick you the trick Mmm, wait a minute. I'm already understanding the game. We've only played it once. Yeah Well speaking of tricking It's time for that money grab in the sky once again, ladies and gentlemen. Every couple of years, we got to get all of our cronies together used to work at Department of Homeland Security who now have their own little consulting businesses selling all kinds of high-tech stuff to the US government. But first, we have to set it up properly. We've got to make sure they look stupid. Yes, it's the TSA. We turn next tonight to troubling new findings after an undercover operation at US airports. TSA officers failing to detect weapons or explosives most of the time.

1:20:43 with millions of Americans about to fly for Thanksgiving. Here's ABC's David Curley. The threat to jetliners by terrorists... from laptop bombs or other weapons remains high. It just never ceases to amaze me how they produce that stuff and perfect with that explosion right there is beautiful. By terrorists from laptop bombs or other weapons remains high which is why the new test results finding vulnerabilities in TSA screening some say are alarming. Vulnerabilities I think every member at the briefing found disturbing. While we saw a man breach airport security in this video this week, these tests looked at checkpoints, smuggling items through. While TSA did better than two years ago, it still failed most of the time. When we asked if the new failure rate was 80%, a source familiar with the classified report said, you are in the ballpark.

1:21:36 The source says the inspector general did not use security experts. Instead, secretaries, administrative workers were able to sneak high-tech contraband through. Now let's just roll that back for a second. Who conducted this test really? It sounds to me like this was a total setup and all of a sudden we have secretaries trying to smuggle stuff through? Really? That hey, you know if I had a secretary a lot of stuff I would ask of my secretary trying to smuggle a bomb a fake bomb a fake gun or a knife through TSA just to see if they get and get through isn't something I think would be easy to

1:22:15 Ask and even may not even be legal for them to do that It was very strange, but the kickers at the end of course. Security experts instead secretaries administrative workers were able to sneak high-tech contraband through while those details remain secret It could be components for bombs guns and other weapons could be one member had a direct message for the TSA administrator this agency that you run is broken badly David Curley with us live from Reagan National Airport. And David, it was both Republicans and Democrats today grilling the TSA chief, but Democrats in particular claiming that money is being siphoned away from the TSA, which they say could be used for new technology to close security gaps.

1:22:55 Every time you buy a plane ticket David there is a security fee and a good portion of that is actually going to pay the national debt not security here at these checkpoints the Democrats say if we spent that money on new high-tech scanners you could fix some of these security issues. Oh sure we could. There it is. This is a scam. There's actually two elements in there that are kind of distressing. The first one, I think, which is more distressing, is the bullcrap that they charge this little extra fee that's supposed to be used by TSA. And it's going towards the deficit. It's going towards the deficit. This has happened in California. I didn't do this, I don't have a clip of it, but I did, I was going to do it before.

1:23:37 California, they've raised the gasoline tax by 12 cents. Again, what are you guys paying a gallon now? $40. And that's for unleaded, huh? Yeah. They've raised it to 12. Now, and the reason was because our roads are falling apart. We had potholes everywhere. Oh yeah. And the places, I mean, the Nimitz is like unbelievable. There's already been supposedly already these little fees and taxes that have been added to the gas tax years ago, and then added more years ago, and then more, and then more, and then more, all to fix the roads. And all of that money has been stolen for other things. So they got to add another 12 cents, and that's supposed to fix the roads, and they'll steal that too. This is out of control. This is not something only California does.

1:24:31 Dutch Prime Minister Wim Kok, K-O-K. He famously said, okay people, we're going to add 25 cents a liter, and that's a quarter, so that's called the kwartje van kok, Kok's quarter. That was a great show title. And he said, you know, we're going to keep that on for a year or two, we need the money, and then we'll take it off. Now, do you think that ever got removed? No. They never take it off. Never, never. This has never happened in the history of the world. I'm reminded of, I have copies of the newspapers from this era in my archives from the 1930s of the Golden Gate Bridge. The Golden Gate Bridge was being built and they promised they would have a small amount of, a small fee to use the bridge and then it would be taken away and the bridge would be free forever. Sure, and what is- They said the same exact thing with the San Francisco-Oakland Bridge. They said,

1:25:34 It'll be free for it'll be charged a little bit right away and then it'll be free forever. And it's the first charge I think was a dime or something along those lines, maybe a quarter. I don't think it was that much, but it could have been a quarter. It's now it's $5. It's $6 in rush hour. How do you go from a quarter to it's going to be free forever to $6? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure I'm sure the San Franciscans are up in arms about it, too They don't give a crap exactly if they're even not living in a tent exactly Thanks for that picture in the newsletter of the of the stamp that was at the San Francisco Bridge

1:26:14 Or the Bay Bridge. The Tent City? Yeah. No, that was under the freeway at the entrance to 80 going across the bridge, but that was at 6th and Harrison, I think. Right, where I used to have my apartment. Oh no, your apartment was up further over. No. Not much. Maybe not much, it's close. But yeah, there's a tent city there. There's a huge tent city in Oakland where Emeryville goes to the freeway. Maybe it's in Emeryville. There's a monster tent city, last time I looked, under the Gilman Overpass in Berkeley. And the tent city is on both sides of the street under the overpass. And it's so big that it's spilled off into the

1:27:03 brushes in the kind of the areas the weeds and when you say big I mean are we talking 50 tents 100 tens hundreds of tents 50 no 50 50 50 plus Maybe a hundred tent Encampment over there. They're trying to bust it up But there's been lawsuits to keep them from busting it up over by the bark tracks in Berkeley remember when that really started and everyone started calling it Obama land and Yeah, Obama land. Trying to make you catch on from the Hooverville was one of them. Hooverville was the original, yeah. Yeah, we've had this problem ever since. Yeah. They don't do anything. They can't...

1:27:42 Really deal with it. They don't know what to do. They can't spend the money. They won't spend the money. They won't build well I always like seeing the brand new Salesforce tower. You know the shining The aluminum penis the phallic symbol of San Francisco, huh? You know towering above the entire skyline looking down on the saps in the tents. It's just fabulous Yes, this guy's in the tents Good going Jerry Brown And you know the poop stuff continues. I didn't get to it on the last show. There was a big Metallica concert in San Diego. People went to go see Metallica. What did they come home with? Hepatitis A. Oh yeah. I think people should scoop up this poop and throw it at the government people. Oh, new story. Richard Dreyfuss accused of exposing himself to women. Richard Dreyfuss? That's funny because his son

1:28:45 Isn't his son one that came out against spacey? Yes, man This is really Hollywood is eating itself Well the exposing themselves to women these flasher is different that we have not seen that part of it yet What is that? What is that right? What is it? What is that just to help me? What is that? We have I mean we have all kinds of people in our production audience There's got to be someone who can tell me where this comes from Flashers yeah I don't get flashers either. But, because for one thing, flashers are different than Louis C.K. or any of these other guys. Flashers are always flash flaccid. And they're just showing, they're just hanging out. They just show you, look at this. For some reason, they have to do that. When I was growing up, when I was a kid, in the Netherlands, those people were mocks. They were called pencil salesmen.

1:29:41 That's a phrase from the show. It is something to mock, but Hollywood has a number, I'm guessing, has a lot of flashers along with everything else that they have, all these other characters. And that part, the flashers have not yet been targeted. They gotta go, they gotta be targeted. So Dreyfus is the first salvo. Because of that, I didn't know this by the way, because of that, I think a bunch of other guys will show up, including, I know of a couple personally, not that they've ever flashed me, but women have told me. I'm not gonna out them, they can out themselves, which they apparently do quite often. Yes, yes.

1:30:20 Wow, that's that's a good one. Mm-hmm. All right. Yeah, it's gonna ruin the show by the way You know that what is all this bald is sexual? Why is that gonna ruin the show because it's it's so funny and it's I think he's gonna distract us from doing really good Deconstruction. Oh, we'll have some deconstruction cut. Well, let me do this first Donna Brazil was on the Bill Maher just since I happen to catch a couple clips from it Saying something. There's one of your most hated phrases. I So be prepared as I bring it up for you. But first up, she's the former Democratic National Committee chair whose new book is Hacks! The Inside Story of the Break-ins and Breakdowns that Put Donald Trump in the White House. Donna Brazile! I'm so glad you feel free enough here on HBO to call me that. I just called him a bad motherfucker.

1:31:24 I've been waiting to use that word on television for what 15 years absolutely and this is your favorite phrase John hey you hate that well you do I do I think it's rude and why does she feel that that's appropriate I don't know she's going off the deep end well she got called out of she got called back that's what happened You need to shut up Donna Brazile. I watched her Tucker interview, it was totally disappointing. She walks everything back. Yeah, well she was told to, obviously. All right, let's go with, just a couple things I ran into that

1:32:09 aren't being played up much. But when you hear stories like this one, this is the clip that says roads must go. When you hear these stories, you begin to think that this is not just isolated incidents. This is part of a global movement that is coordinated by some NGO or someone. There's someone behind this because the connections between South Africa and and Charleston, South Carolina, there is none. You wouldn't. No, nothing obvious. South Africa in recent weeks, protests have once again erupted on campuses across the country. The demonstrations, known as fees must fall, aimed at reducing tuition costs, stem from the painful history of apartheid. And just as in the disputes here over Confederate monuments, the symbols of South Africa's past are being fought over today. Jeffrey Brown was recently in South Africa for his ongoing series, Culture at Risk.

1:33:11 High above Cape Town, at the southern tip of Africa, a stately memorial to Cecil John Rhodes, the British-born 19th century diamond magnate and colonial conqueror. But notice the bust of Rhodes. His nose has been hacked off. It was on the nearby campus of the prestigious University of Cape Town, with a historically white majority student body. The protests over another prominent statue of Rhodes set off a national debate in South Africa two years ago, when student activists started what became known as the Rhodes Must Fall Movement. The Rhodes monument is a practical symbol of the oppression of black people. At the end of the day, we are saying, we are not happy to just be at the university.

1:34:04 Hmm, you know I don't know if there's a single entity behind this what we're talking about here is statues coming down with it have history that people don't like right and When Rhodes is that from the Rhodes scholar yeah curiously that's very curious indeed This is the internet. This is a global thing that is unstoppable. Let's gotta go What do you mean, Scott? It's not going to go. It's not going to end. The internet must go. Well, yes, the internet is a big problem. And they're really trying to legislate it. Because yes, the internet must go. This is not helpful at all to the globalists. It's not. Nothing is working. Nothing is working.

1:34:52 There's a couple of things that are banned. We're starting to ban stuff. You can watch certain Netflix shows in Canada, you can't watch them in the United States. Of course, anyone with their right mind. Anybody out there who doesn't have a VPN to go around all this stuff is making a mistake. But which brings us to a pet peeve that you were moaning and groaning about at the beginning of the show, and I do want to get it out of the way, which is your comments about You're being forcefully upgraded on Skype and then the websites that keep hounding you. Oh, no, okay. We didn't actually, we talked about it before we started the show. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, so we're always hounded. We're continue, well, actually it ties into a clip as well. We're continuously hounded to do certain things all the time when it comes to technology. Upgrade this, update your app. And iOS, Apple is, it's a very interesting system, although tiring.

1:35:51 You know, it keeps asking you to upgrade your phone, and I know you don't have one, John, but it asks you this, and then you have to... It kind of takes you down this path of just put your finger on the hole. and we'll start the update. But if you don't want to, you can hit cancel, but it's like way down below, and then you have to enter your passcode, it doesn't work with your finger ID. So they're really trying to get you to upgrade, which I just don't want to do because, well, for obvious reasons, all these bugs, it's always the same. Certainly with Apple, but with most software updates. But then you all of a sudden an app has to be up. Yeah, this app won't work unless you update it. Then you update the app and then it says we won't work unless you have iOS 11, which is where I stopped using the app and whatever service. But now and I see this particular, I thought it was

1:36:40 really just a Windows thing, but I'm seeing it on the Mac too. Really any browser, anytime. Websites that pop up a little dialogue that says, we'd like to send you alerts. And you say no, block in Chrome, it's block. Say block, but does that block it? No. Inevitably you come back, you know, a couple of days later and it asks you again. I do not like this. Well, there's another one that keeps cropping up, which is the one that wants to follow you. Which we want to know where you are don't you think it would be great if we knew your location? It's a lot of that yeah, I get that too. This is these browser standards They really they really wrecked the experience and now you know go to any of our websites your website my websites dangerous It's not HTTPS who is dangerous

1:37:33 And I don't know if you've noticed this or if anybody else has noticed or it's just me and I keep my machine, my main machine, not this one. This one here is pretty, just pretty much used for this show. My main machine is got, I've got all the anti-spyware stuff running. I got multiple virus hunters and all the rest of it. And they spot bad websites and do a lot of work to clean up crazy, crap that's added to the browsers, which is the hardest thing to get rid of. Yeah, mediaplex. But you can get rid of them. I keep the machine as pristine as I can, but almost ever since this HTTPS thing, every website I go to, I have about a five second delay

1:38:20 Yeah, I'm waiting for this thing to click in at PayPal. I go to paypal.com I got it the thing you hit the button five seconds good fight It does not doing anything the old space days or then all of a sudden it clicks in bang it You think that's the HTTPS thing? I can't imagine what else it could be so and the problem with this is when you know whenever we bring this up on the show It's like Bitcoin, you know, please ignore the 20% crash in Bitcoin because we don't know what we're talking about. Because it's a great store of value. But when it comes to HTTPS, look,

1:38:55 Everyone who's a technologist in our audience says, yeah, but this is a good thing because, you know, someone could hijack it. I get it. I'm not against it. I think it should be backwards compatible. I see no reason for me to install it. And it's not, yeah, it was really easy. Let's encrypt.org. Yeah, sure. I got other things to do with my life than manage HTTPS on things that really absolutely don't need that kind of security. And the only reason it's being done is Google doesn't want Verizon hijacking their stream to your web browser so they can serve the ads. That's what this is about. But I hate the warnings. That's the part that pisses me off. You must really hate this one, which comes up all the time, which is the dumbest one. You're on some site, almost all government sites are this way, and it says here's a bunch of links that you might want to check out, and you click on one, it says

1:39:48 Stop! You're leaving the site! Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you sure? This page is trying to send you to this page! Yeah, that's what clicking on a link is supposed to do. Yeah. Yeah, oh yeah. The chat room's already- It's about privacy, yeah, sure. No, it's not. Google doesn't give a shit about privacy, and they're the ones behind it. It's about advertising. It's about deep packet replacement. Ooh! There you go. Packet replacement so they can change the ads that Verizon or Verizon or I think the main culprit They're thinking of is either Verizon or T-Mobile or anybody because they're everyone's jacking around with ads. There's a website I'll put it in the show notes. I forget what it's called

1:40:30 It's like a Russian thing wall wallach web or something and You can just type in an address and it'll come back and tell you how many trackers and how many different pages That one web page is actually calling up and it's hundreds hundreds hundreds there used to be a it's not an ad blocker, but some sort of a product that did that on every page. And when you loaded a page, I can't remember the name of this thing. I had to take it off because it was annoying. Because it would load a page and then it would say, here's the trackers that are on this page. And it would have a, it would be a, it would open, it would be a dropdown, it would drop down to China. It was just like a hundred of these things, this and that, and this and that, and they're all doing this. And this one's putting cookies on you and this is doing, it's horrible.

1:41:22 Horrible, it's horrible. This I'm telling you this whole internet thing is a disaster. It is it is well It's only gonna get worse First I got two clips here. The first one is Sean Parker. You may have seen this this kind of made the rounds I thought it was very interesting He arguably is a co-founder of Facebook I don't think he really had any much to do with the technology of it and he kind of unloaded He's mostly famous for Napster. You're correct. You know if the if the thought process that went into building these applications, Facebook being the first of them to really understand it. That thought process was all about how do we consume as much of your time and conscious attention as possible? And that means that we need to sort of give you a little dopamine hit every once in a while because someone liked or commented on a photo or a post or whatever.

1:42:18 And that's gonna get you to contribute more content, and that's gonna get you more likes and comments. It's a social validation feedback loop. It's exactly the kind of thing that a hacker like myself would come up with because you're exploiting a vulnerability in human psychology. I think that the inventors, creators, You know, and it's me, it's Mark, it's the, you know, Kevin Sisterman Instagram, it's all of these people, understood this consciously, and we did it anyway. Bullshit! I'm not buying this. I'm not buying this at all. Facebag was started to spy on chicks. That's what Zuckerberg himself has even said that.

1:43:09 Yeah, I don't think he was because he has a low social quotient and he wanted to get a date. And it was kind of cool to do. It was very, very something that I remember a group of us guys doing it like in the sixth or seventh grade. We had done a, we had access to the copying systems of the mimeograph and ditto machines. I love me at the smell of a ditto. Everyone loves the smell of a ditto. And it was ethyl, methyl alcohol. Oh yeah, I want to go to school again. We would post, it was like in the sixth or seventh grade, we'd post a top 10 girls on a list. And then we'd post it, we'd surreptitiously post it all over the school. It was a huge scandal. Dvorak's List, I think it was called, wasn't it? No, it wasn't. It had nothing to do with it. But this is the kind of thing you would, this is a kind of low-end

1:44:05 Kid is like an immature boy Thing to do and that's what I that's how Facebook developed I I concur and you know to say this now I don't know what Parker's up to but for sure now people realize how it were I mean we do it subconsciously You know feel like what it was the bell about yeah, I don't know we just started doing it But I think it works people. Oh shoot. They just said something important. You know so that's more Pavlovian thing and And for sure, Instagram holds back notifications to give you a whole rush, a dopamine rush by giving you, you know, eight at a time instead of staggered. But that's kind of the old stuff now. And I brought this up a few weeks ago. The big web summit in Europe, I believe, is it in Paris? The big web summit? It was the one with all those douches were going?

1:45:03 I don't know if that's even, they even do that thing in Paris anymore. That's usually over... I'm sorry, Lisbon. What am I thinking? Lisbon. Yes, Lisbon. So that's taking place, I guess it was over the... maybe it's still running. Maybe it started this week. No, it just ended. Six to nine. The largest tech conference in the world, 60,000 attendees, 1,200 speakers, 68% is senior management, 2,600 journos, 170 plus countries. Yes, remember this was all those people we were talking about who were invited, not including us? Yeah, we're not going to get invited to anything. Well, it was all about, well, you know, let's play a little game. What was the topic about? What was the big conversation at the Web Summit?

1:45:49 Pits. I hate that word. No! AI! AI! Machine learning! And now we have a new one. The new one, well, the new one I'll talk about in a minute, but it was AI, machine learning. Here's a little report. We simply need to be aware of the dangers. A warning from Professor Stephen Hawking for the world's leading tech experts that the emergence of artificial intelligence could be the worst event in the history of our civilization. We need to take learning beyond a theoretical discussion of how AI should be and take action to make sure we plan for how it can be. Hawken is concerned the tech could lead to powerful autonomous weapons and be used to oppress people.

1:46:38 The scientist behind Sophia the Robot, Ben Gertschel, is building a marketplace in the cloud where AI developers can share their work and ideas. Now this is great. This is perfect. A perfect coverage of this conference. You always have one guy who's kind of the alternative visionary and this guy has a wacky hat on and you know he's like oh yeah we got to look at this differently. It's natural to be afraid of the unknown. And we are entering a new domain and none of us can predict exactly what's going to happen. So we need to move AI away a little bit from being owned only by huge companies and major governments and have it developed in more of a decentralized way.

1:47:21 Gertrude is concerned that if AI is constantly... That's a typical web guy, you know, like, well we should do it like open source and everybody should have access to the same stuff and decentralized man. Decentralized wave. Gertrude is concerned that if AI is concentrated in the hands of a few, they'll use it to pursue their own agenda. Elon Musk John Musk thinks this man will save the world. Physicist Max Tegmark. He's researching the existential risks facing humanity when it comes to artificial intelligence. And rather than an outright robot uprising, he worries that bit by bit machines are outsmarting us. Why are we humans more powerful on this planet than tigers? It's not because we have sharper claws or

1:48:11 It's bigger muscles. It's because we're smarter and if we create machines that are smarter than us, then it's perfectly plausible either that those machines can get a power over us or that people can use those machines to do things that we don't want them to do. Alright. Like what? Well, let me just say this is bullshit. It is a scam. In fact, to me, AI is OZ. Because that's all you're gonna get. You're gonna get something that looks like it's artificial intelligence, but it'll be just like the Wizard of Oz. You have a little guy behind the scene pulling the levers. There's no evidence of any real AI that does anything useful. There's just no evidence of it. I wrote a column in PC Magazine. People should look this up.

1:48:58 about AI and the fact that it's a, I think it was 30. No, you said fix my email and I'll believe it. Was that your payoff, I think? Well, there's that, but no, it was a 30 year cycle began in the fifties and then it happened again in the eighties and now it's happening again. We've had the first cycle began in the fifties and I documented it and then it did the same thing as a big, oh, but thinking machines are all going to die robots. And so then in the 80s we had this fifth generation project and all this other crap. I was at InfoWorld at the time, I was the editor there and I watched this thing from start to end. Same thing. We're all gonna die. The Japanese are gonna, just had the Japanese element because they're kicking our ass. And the Japanese are gonna own the place and they're gonna have AI and they're gonna have robots and they're all gonna die. And now 30 years later, we get the same thing. I just think it's a stupid cycle that, you know, it's a fail, what you just said.

1:49:52 The whole idea is weak and it can't be done. It can't be done or if it can be done, it's not gonna be done in this cycle. And it just comes and then everyone did a bunch of money gets thrown away, a bunch of money gets wasted, and the next thing you know, it's dead. And then it starts up again in 30 years from now. There's a lot of really smart people who I know who really think that this is happening, and it's just not. And we have a new term now. It's not just AI and machine learning. Now it's deep learning. Oh, please. Oh, please. Deep. What is deep? It's like a deep massage. I don't know. I think it comes from deep state.

1:50:31 Hey, the new word, man, is Deep State. Hey, let's do a magazine called Deep. Yeah, let's... here, Deep Learning. Let's see if there's a definition of... here, deeplearning.net. Okay, I'm sure these are the experts. Let's see. Welcome to Deep Learning. Deep Learning is a new area of machine learning research which has been introduced with the objective of moving machine learning closer to one of its original goals, artificial intelligence. God. It's not there. You know, does anyone who believes this have an Alexa or whatever the other talking tubes are? These things are not smart. And I think Amazon is pretty tech savvy. There's no intelligence in this.

1:51:21 Zero. Not even the simplest things. Like, you already have that on your shopping list, Adam. I don't need to add bread again. No, it adds bread twice. You know? Yeah, okay, Void Zero is telling me I'm focused on consumer electronics. Oh, I'm sorry. What should I be focused on? This is, it's a lie. It's a lie and it's going to be misused with people behind the scenes pulling the levers, because that's what it is to date. That's what it is. It's, AI is OZ. I see it no other way. Give me some real examples. I should say there's no evidence people even want to use AI.

1:52:05 Adams beaver the day you got the people yeah, well it's it's There's so many things that we can fix in technology. How about fixing the potholes on highway? All right, let me see okay Okay, let's go to some some other stuff here. Oh, we got it I wanted to play this weather report because I think this year is gonna be another one of those whopper Global warming super winters. Oh, so everyone can bitch about it. It's already started looked and felt like winter in Chicago today They got about an inch of snow and the low of 18 degrees at O'Hare Airport tied the record set in 1986

1:52:52 Brutally cold air is moving east tonight Washington and New York will wake up to temperatures in the 20s The wind will make it feel like the teens and single digits farther north Man, I'm glad we changed from global warming to climate change. We would have been pickled now speaking of such and this is a tie-in Michael Oreskes that's the NPR news douche who was fired over a Allegations of actual sexual harassment. Actual sexual harassment, like, uh, kids sticking his tongue in women's mouths who wanted to get a job or a better job at his organization. At that time, New York Times. Yeah, the frog guy. He is the brother of Naomi Oreskes.

1:53:43 Who, does this name ring a bell? No. This is... Doesn't ring a bell either. This is the famous professor behind the book Merchants of Doubt in which she attacks doubters of catastrophic climate change predictions because they're all paid by big oil. In fact, she was among... Where's our money? She was, yes, she was among one of the first to promote the 97% consensus BS. And in her book, The End of Western Civilization, She predicts, based on science, there will be a household pet holocaust in 2023 because of global warming. Pet holocaust. What? Yeah, that's also a good title. A pet holocaust? Yeah. Yeah, they're all gonna die. From what? From the heat. It'll be too warm for them. But here's the question. Was NPR News influenced in any way?

1:54:40 No, they don't need to be. They're already on board. Okay. I would say there might be, you know, there's so many conflicts of interest. So many. The loss of pet cats and dogs garnered particular attention among wealthy Westerners, but that was a not... Oh, so 2023 is when... That's what... 2030 is the year they want to use. But yeah, doomed kittens and puppies. Let me see. Yeah. Wow, you're really sinking to the bottom of the barrel when you're talking about doomed kittens and puppies. If you have a bill of climate goods to peddle. Yeah, this is an anti-article. Yeah, so, but this is in her book that, uh, that, uh, well, that'll be good. I'm sick and tired. You know, I like dogs. It's okay. Uh, we live in an apartment building. People and their dogs are rude.

1:55:41 Your dogs are always sniffing my crotch. And I'm okay with it, but you know, it's like... What do you mean you're okay with it? Yeah... But a dog, unless the dog is crotch high, which most of them aren't, they have to go up on their rear legs to sniff your crotch. Well, that would not be... You give them a knee to the chest. Yes. But you know, the dog is, they walk them outside, they just let them urinate everywhere against everything. It's not like a doggy toilet at the front of our building. I'm sick of it. Pet hater. Yeah, I'm a pet hater. Yes. Yeah, in a way. Yes, in a way I am. You are. It's okay. People get their own, you know, it's a free country. Not anymore, my friend. I don't know where you got that idea from.

1:56:26 Let's go to this story. This is a redo of a story we covered as BS about a year and a half ago. This 757 hack. Oh, okay. There's unsettling news tonight about one of America's most widely used jetliners. In a test, experts working with Homeland Security hacked into a 757. Transportation correspondent Chris Van Cleave is following this. The team of researchers needed only two days in September of 2016 to remotely hack into a Boeing 757 parked at the airport in Atlantic City, New Jersey. Speaking at a conference this week, Robert Hickey of the Department of Homeland Security said his team used typical stuff that could get through security and hacked into the aircraft systems using radio frequency communications.

1:57:12 We are so dependent upon computers to operate everything. Mark Rosenker is the former chair of the National Transportation Safety Board. We've got a real crisis here, it seems to me, that must be looked at to guarantee that we have the ability to prevent cyber hacking from happening. The 757 hasn't been in production since 2004, but the aging workhorse is still being flown by major airlines like United, Delta and American. President Donald Trump's personal jet is a 757. So is the plane Vice President Pence often uses, including on his recent trip to Texas. The classified DHS testing followed a 2015 incident where a passenger told the FBI he had gained control of a plane's engine by hacking into the airliner's in-flight entertainment system.

1:57:55 DHS says the recent testing was in an artificial environment and risk reduction measures were already in place. Boeing observed the testing and was briefed on its results. In a statement, the company says, we firmly believe that the test did not identify any cyber vulnerabilities in the 757 or any other Boeing aircraft. An official briefed on the testing said it did not appear that it exposed an extreme vulnerability to airliners. Instead, it was something that was done in a very specific manner with a specific approach on an older aircraft with older systems. Still, this official said it was good information to have, but quote, I'm not afraid to fly. Yeah, I believe this to be a planted bullcrap story and I can tell you why. And you know why? When we discuss these things, we discuss them with Noah Jenka. Noah Jenka thinking. Noah Jenka.

1:58:43 And so, okay, what's the angle on this for Airbus, the major competitor to Boeing? Gee, it's so coincidental this story comes out just as the Dubai Airshow kicks off. Come on, people, try a little harder. And in a surprise... And by the way, if you listen to the report, it's a non-report. They all said, Boeing said, this guy's got nothing. And they said they got nothing. They may have hacked into the music system and changed a few songs, as far as I can tell, is the only thing they got. So the Dubai Air Show kicks off. This is why this was planted. But it looks like Boeing is kicking Airbus' ass. They got a surprise huge order from, what was it, the Emirates for the 787. And I think they were big Airbus guys, weren't they?

1:59:36 I think so, yeah. The A380, that was kind of what they wanted. So now it seems like the 787 is taking over the sails. The problem with the A380, I mean, unless they put bowling alleys in the upper deck, there's no real, it's too hard to fill. There's too many competitors. There's only one airliner in the world. And you had to fly it and only flew to Europe once a month. Yeah, you'd pack that sucker. But there's all these flights. I mean, you have to fill in A380. That's a double-decker. It's unbelievably difficult. And they won't make the tickets cheap enough. And what network was that? Play the beginning again. Let me see. Here we go. There's unsettling news tonight about one of America's most widely- CBS. CBS? Yeah. Okay.

2:00:37 I don't know what tie-in there is, but someone definitely... CIA, I don't know. Someone definitely wanted a bad story about Boeing. Maybe it was paid. That's what I'm thinking. All right, as a reminder for this segment, we play the West Clark 7. Seven countries. in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and finishing off Iran. That's right, we're well on our way. It seems that President Trump's boy, Jared Kushner, is doing good work. Regional tensions over Lebanon are escalating after Hezbollah's leader says Saudi Arabia has declared war on Lebanon. It comes as the leader of the Iran-backed group accused Riyadh of detaining

2:01:23 denouncing Lebanon's Prime Minister, Saad al-Hariri, and forcing him to resign. A senior politician close to Hariri has told Reuters he was forced to do it and that the Lebanese authorities believe Hariri is being held in Saudi Arabia. But Riyad says Hariri is a free man and he decided to resign because Hezbollah was calling the shots in his government. It also accused Lebanon and Hezbollah of declaring war on the Gulf Arab Kingdom on Monday. Hariri's resignation has plunged Lebanon into turmoil, pushing the small Arab country back to the forefront of regional rivalry between the Sunni Muslim monarchy, Saudi Arabia, and Shiite revolutionary, Iran. Western countries are looking on with alarm at the rising regional tension. US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson

2:02:18 warns the region against using Lebanon as a vehicle for a larger proxy in the Middle East on Friday, and said there was no indication that Harari was being held in Saudi Arabia against his will. While France's President Macron has called on Lebanon's president to discuss the development of the shock resignation. Lebanon's prime minister has made no public remarks since the announcement in a speech televised from Saudi Arabia last week, saying he feared assassination. Hariri's resignation is being widely seen as part of a Saudi attempt to counter Iran as its influence deepens in Syria and Iraq, and as Riyadh and its allies battle Iranian Houthi rebels in Yemen.

2:03:07 If I could have gotten a better report, I would have. Now this has got to be from Democracy Now, I said PBS, we'll see. But anyway, play this Why Update Lebanon, which I think has got a better rapport, I think it's better, more information is better. There are new questions today about Lebanon's prime minister, who announced his resignation this week in a televised address from Saudi Arabia. Saad Hariri today denied that he is being held as a prisoner in Riyadh, but the Lebanese

2:03:42 A Lebanese militant group, Hezbollah, disputed that claim, saying that the Saudis had forced him to resign. The group's leader called for Hariri's return. Lebanon's prime minister is detained in Saudi Arabia, and it has to release him. The Lebanese should work to bring him back to Lebanon, and then it is up to him to go wherever. Maybe he wants to go back to Saudi. It is his call. Meanwhile, US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said that Hariri should return to Lebanon to make his resignation official. He also said that Lebanon should not be used as a venue for the region's proxy complex. Yeah, yeah, dream on, Rex. That's not how it works. There's a lot of stuff about Saudi Arabia. And I've been following this guy on 4chan called Q.

2:04:36 I do want to bring this up because it kind of ties into some of the things we've talked about, other theories regarding Vegas and the Clintons and Clinton Foundation. And really, if you look at what happened with this last election, and you're seeing certain people running very, very frantically trying to change things. Who got all the money, if you just follow that? I'm looking at John McCain too, by the way, his McCain Foundation. You get people like Flake resigning. There's a lot of Democrats and Republicans in Congress and Senate who take a lot of money from Saudi Arabia. And the game is over. Everyone thought Hillary would win, and the power and the connections, everything would continue, and it just turned out differently.

2:05:23 I have a summary of this 4chan. It must be me, it must be my age. It's very hard for me to follow stuff on 4chan. I want to mention something before you start reading that, which refers to what you just said. If you remember when the election was turning to Trump, And it involved Podesta and some of these other people that were in the Hillary camp saying that if this guy wins, we're all going to be hanging by our necks. Yes. Remember that? Yep. Okay, go on. I just want to make sure. Was it Podesta? It was in an email, right? From the- that was out on WikiLeaks. Yeah, I'm not sure if it was Podesta himself, but it was some one of them. Okay, so this is really from the hyper pro Trump crowd, so you have to take that into account. Hashtag the storm. And this guy Q, this is a- really is a summary, and I put links to the whole thing, you can read it. There's a lot of- he's- the way he's dropping information, and I say drop-

2:06:27 is, because he calls it an Intel drop, is, you know, questions. Not really stating anything, but, you know, who benefits from this? It's a question. So, the gist of it is that Trump or someone close to him is posting this under the pseudonym Q. So this has been going on for months now. Okay, here we go. Trump was recruited to run for president by military intelligence to unseat the CIA because the CIA was trying to draw the US into a globalist government. Mueller, also disgusted by this apparently, is secretly working with the Trump administration to take out all of the people bought by foreign governments in Washington. Between 200 and 300 sealed indictments have already been filed in district courts across the US and will soon be unsealed. This includes everyone involved in the Uranium One deal,

2:07:18 The Iran deal there's a lot of questions about the money that was you know the member the money big pallets of money Obama sent over to Iran yeah, it also involved anyone involved with the Saudis that's Manafort Podesta Hillary Obama Corker McCain the list is on and on fusion GPS Who have now struck a deal apparently with the Justice Department, which I think is getting people very nervous. So they are not they're going to talk they're gonna sing According to Q the fusion GPS accounts will show most of the m5m reporters were being paid by the podestas

2:08:01 which I think is an interesting claim. Then the Las Vegas shooting, which as we discussed was possibly a blown assassination attempt on Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman by Prince Al-Walid bin Talal. Salman was staying on the top floor of the Mandalay Bay, which is owned by Four Seasons, but had been spending that day of the shooting at the Tropicana. That's where we have the video of someone who looks like him being escorted out with drawn guns. So the feds were tipped off of the imminent attempt and evacuated from the Tropicana. The hit team was being supplied with guns by PADOK. PADOK was a spook.

2:08:41 who were in Paddock's room when Salman was evacuated. So they killed Paddock, scattered, two of them stayed behind, shot up the crowd for escape cover. This of course ties into reported shots fired at other casino locations where the hit squad was trying to take him out. Let me see, now there's more about it. The FBI, okay, got the sheriff out there to lie about it. Okay, the crackdown on corruption and arrests in Saudi Arabia were a revenge move on those responsible for the attempt. The recent diplomatic trip to China was to strike a deal with them to back a US-Saudi-Israeli play in the Middle East. This is where Lebanon comes in. The Saudis and Israel will unite together with our blessing, take over Yemen and Lebanon, and then eventually Iran. And I think all we need then is Somalia and we've got them all. And in fact, one hour ago, they lit up the earthquake machine in Iraq 7.2. I have to find out what region that's in.

2:09:43 Then what was this, what's this Medcure? I never got the, what is this Medcure thing? I don't know anything about Medcure. Cause I, cause I couldn't quite place that. Maybe one of our producers can help with that. FBI raid on the dead body broker Medcure. I don't know what that's about, but it does tie back into human trafficking. And here's the kicker that the Hillary campaign hired two MS-13 members to kill Seth Rich for stealing the emails. Two days later, two MS-13 members were found dead in a hotel parking lot in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. But ultimately, Saudi Arabia is in the middle of all of this. And I don't think Q is right. I don't think we've figured everything out yet. But that there's something going on with the Trump administration in Saudi Arabia with a plan is very evident to me.

2:10:40 and all of this stuff, it could be true. I mean, it does fit into most of the model and man, the M5M has gone completely silent on Vegas. Just nothing. There's no reporting on it anymore. Who cares? Well, the M5M has gone silent on a lot of interesting things that should be reported on, I've noticed. And I mean, that's why this Judge Moore thing is so good because it keeps the, you know, the first shootings and it started with the Vegas thing, they pushed that to the back. They had the truck thing in New York and then they had some other shootings here and there now they got this more thing that they can really ride when you see Brooks and shield talking for a half an hour or more about some some Alabama that's a distraction. That's a distraction. It's a total distraction. The thing is a massive distraction We distracted it on our show. I had a whole bunch of clips. Here's what here's a nice thing that Q was posting about that

2:11:40 Apparently there's something going on inside our borders with Saudi Arabia and there's there are people here that are not supposed to be here or he's very vague about it. But that an attack or some event was supposed to take place on November 3rd and he would be sending a A keyword in one of his tweets that would be so this is I love this part is that Our president apparently is when he tweets a certain at someone or a certain word Then that's go time for some operation. I Suggested this on the show. Yeah, well, maybe your cue who the hell knows yeah, I Anything's possible.

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2:22:01 Alrighty, let me see we had Well we had Poland Poland up in arms You know that Euro news is really starting to sound like the old polygon newsreels.

2:22:38 29 years ago on November 11th 1918 the Board of Regents handed over the military authority and the supreme command of Poland's troops to Joseph Piłsudski. Some 100,000 people took part in the parallel independence march organized around the slogan of We Want God. The traditionally far-right gathering attracted many supporters of the governing law and justice party. The divided opposition organized several counter demonstrations with the two largest rallying on anti-fascist and pro-democracy platforms. There you go. More against the fascists. Hitlerjugend. It's happening everywhere. Let's go do a Catalan update. Ah yes. They had a big event yesterday.

2:23:27 Spain's government said Wednesday it will consider constitutional changes that would allow for regional governments to hold referendums on independence, like the banned vote on October 1st that sparked a political crisis in Spain's Catalonia region. The apparent olive branch came as pro-independence activists called a general strike Wednesday in Barcelona A Barcelona riot police arrested students who stormed a train station and shut down high-speed rail service. Police also removed demonstrators who blockaded roads and highways across the city. This is Adriana, a Barcelona student, who said that protesters are demanding the release of Catalan political leaders who have been arrested on charges of rebellion and sedition.

2:24:11 In order to break with the picture of normalcy, as if nothing was happening here, to demand the freedom of the political prisoners and to keep on taking the streets, because the republic which has been declared needs to be defended. We need to stay organized and keep demonstrating. Oh yeah, you got to, because we got to stop that Chinese railroad. Well, they're gonna stop something but that wasn't reported pretty much anywhere. You thought you saw it? Yeah, interestingly I had a clip as well but it was shittier than yours so I'm very happy you played yours. Now along the lines of the Silk Road, I have updated our silkroad.noagendanotes.com webpage to include the Black Death story which is now garnering speed

2:24:58 Uh, it's very coincidental that it's just everywhere the New Silk Road, the One Bridge One Road initiative has all of their shipping routes. Madagascar is ground zero, but now the plague has spread to South Africa, Mozambique, Tanzania, Kenya, Ethiopia. Oh, it just gets beautiful. You don't want any of your ships going there. The Seychelles, Mauritius, Reunion, all dying. Plague, death. I can't wait. I mean we had Ebola, we had Zika. You can now it'll be the same format. It'll be the same format. So here's what you can expect. You can expect new signs at the TSA line. You can expect at least one American who has the plague and will probably come here and will follow him on television as he goes to the Mayo Clinic or whatever.

2:25:57 What are they saying here? It's also Marburg. Is that the official name? The Marburg virus disease? I don't know. I don't remember it. Well, it also causes Marburg. I think Marburg, I think is more like Ebola. Yes, it is. It's a hemorrhagic fever. Yeah. But what is the what is the black plague then? What is the what exactly is that stuff made of? Something else. It's some other some other groovy stuff. Well, you left one element out of the laundry list of what to expect. Oh, shoot. What did I forget? Vaccine development. Oh, vaccine. Yes, of course. Whatever happened to all the Zika vaccine? Wasn't it like they were going to do it for free and then we're going to charge anybody? Am I blowing up the story?

2:26:51 No talkie. You know, I found one more story that I don't believe. Tell me if I'm wrong when you play this clip that I don't believe the mainstream media touched, which was I mean, they mention it, but they don't touch this one kind of at least to me, a very interesting element of Trump's visit to China. Trump-China venue. Check this out. President Trump's begun talks with Chinese leader Xi Jinping in Beijing following a lavish welcome Wednesday that was billed as a state visit plus and included the first state dinner for a US president inside the Forbidden City. The whelping ceremony outside Beijing's Great Hall of the People was broadcast live on state television, unprecedented treatment for a visiting leader. Trump used the talks to call on China to sever ties with North Korea.

2:27:42 the forbidden city. This is the first time an American president was ever invited to a state dinner, which I guess is the state dinner plus ever in the, so there's something going on and Trump is getting this kind of, you know, he's said, I don't know what he's up to, but he's setting stuff up because he's getting really fantastic treatment by these foreign leaders. But our media doesn't want to point any of this out because the litany is, oh, we were hated You know, they were hated and nobody likes Trump and all these leaders think he's a lunatic and a cheese face. And so they won't mention this. I thought this was very interesting. A cheese face? Yeah, I mean, you know, Cheetos. I hadn't heard. Oh, that's a different cheese face. Yeah. Cheetos face. I agree with you. I agree. And I think, you know, it's that has to do with North Korea. There's something that the 4chan Q guy was also talking about how Barack Obama

2:28:39 is very involved in North Korea and he possibly might have even been there in the past month or so. There's all kinds of weird stuff about that. I did get one little North Korea clip from again Democracy Now, they had this professor on who was discussing North Korea politics and how the Chinese are looking like they're trying to sanctioned them, but they're not really, and all the rest of it. But there was a little tidbit in here at the end. I didn't, I just, you think about it, you go, oh, yeah, obviously this North Korea thing is, this has a lot to do with it. This professor about what China does not want. How much leverage does China have on North Korea? And what does Trump expect from China? To hear Mr. Trump say it and the American foreign policy establishment say it, you would think that if Xi Jinping

2:29:30 picked up the phone and called Kim Jong-un and said, I want you to dismantle your nuclear facilities. He would do that. That is a complete myth. For one thing, there's an enormous amount of bad blood between North Korea and China. And the tougher China is, and we are on North Korea, the more likely they are to hang on to their nuclear weapons. That's the first thing. The second thing is that the Chinese already voted for the very tough U.N. sanctions in August and September. Ninety-six percent of North Korea's trade is with China, but the Chinese don't want to asphyxiate, choke the regime to death for fear that it will collapse. That collapse would have immediate consequences for them economically and strategically. For one thing, in the long term, they, the Chinese, cannot exclude the possibility that a collapse in North Korea would mean down the line a unified Korean peninsula aligned to the United States.

2:30:22 So, obviously they don't want a unified Korean peninsula because it would be aligned with the United States because of South Korea's influence. Yes. Yeah. Obviously. I think that we should be trying to get these two to hook up together, but the Chinese are probably behind it not ever happening. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, it makes sense to me. I mean, that's why they were involved in the first place. Yeah. That's just geopolitics. But you know, there's something about the Uranium One deal with uranium being smuggled out, big payments in Iran, and then Kim Jong-un has enough material apparently to have, you know, be testing some kind of nukes. Yeah. I know it's kind of second half of show stuff, but it's not all that crazy. Anything's possible these days.

2:31:19 I think it's all anything's always been possible. We just we really never had the information and now that stupid internet is just giving us everything. It's horrible. For instance, speaking of Chinese, I mean holding back on this one, Nancy Pelosi, who I think is probably the recipient of some of the Alzheimer drugs that are rumored to not even rumor there was a wasn't there a A pharmacist in DC says that he delivers reasonably large quantities of Alzheimer drugs to Congress. Yeah, so there's probably more than one or two people with Alzheimer's on the in, and I can think of who they might be.

2:32:01 Maxine Waters maybe or Sheila Jackson Jones? No, I think Pelosi. What about Derek, what's his name, Al Green? Pelosi. He keeps coming up and asking to impeach Trump over and over like he forgot he did it last week. It's Pelosi. Good afternoon everyone. We're all awaiting the next version of how Republicans in the House of Representatives will rip off the middle class in our country. In the meantime, it was curious to see President Trump in China. Candidate Trump said that what's happening in China trade was the greatest theft in the history of the world.

2:32:45 And yesterday he said, our trade deficit with China, which is huge, is not China's fault. This is very interesting. I liked how she played this, because that is what the president said. But the second part of his statement was, it was the stupid Democrats who are running the show who let the Chinese get away with everything. It's really their fault. Yeah, that's what he said. That's what he said. Now Pelosi doesn't mention that, but she does say something else. And yesterday he said, our trade deficit with China, which is huge, is not China's fault. You can almost hear the leadership of the Chinese government laughing from China to America. Maybe you can feel it coming through the ground because if you dig a hole here, you will reach China. But the reverberation is so appalling.

2:33:42 Alzheimer's John, this is no doubt. Well, I'm pretty sure she has Alzheimer's but I'm sure there's another one or two in there that do too But who the hell says you can hear the Chinese laughing if you dig a hole here Do you come out in China on the other end? I mean, come on But I don't think that's the worst of the Nancy Pelosi's Presentation there. It's yeah. Well, they're all up there. It's just she's she's I don't know. I She's gonna say something, I mean she hasn't yet said something astonishingly stupid such as, who am I? What am I doing here? What is this microphone? She's having brain freezes from time to time. We see those on the YouTube. She snaps out of it. There's a... She's all that snapping out of it. There was an interesting comparison that I think is now a meme and when you really think about it, it's a very, could be a scary meme.

2:34:38 This is Joy Reed and she had on who's the MSNBC dude they were talking about George Wallace now George Wallace ran again who did he run against? George Wallace was an independent and he ran, I think he ran against Kennedy. Ah, that could be right. President Nixon. Listen to this. Probably Kennedy. Listen to this. The comparisons. Talk about this book playing with fire because 1968 I personally think is the most momentous and interesting year in American history. Obviously you agree because you wrote a book about it. This is Matthews again with his book. You know I think about George Wallace a lot when I think about Donald Trump. Is he comparable to Wallace or is he something different? Well, George Wallace, his campaign manager, is in this book telling me that when he listened to Donald Trump campaigning, he was listening to Wallace on every level. On the voter... It must have been Nixon, not Kennedy. It was 68, so it must have been Nixon. Yeah, it has to be Nixon.

2:35:33 listening to Wallace on every level on the voter he was appealing to on the racially coded language that he was using to appeal to them because you know Wallace said in 1967 when he was gearing up for his independent campaign for 1960 In 1968, he said, having been steamrolled by the Kennedys in integrating University of Alabama when he was a staunch segregationist, he said, I don't talk about segregation anymore. I talk about law and order. And Nixon heard that, and a couple months later, Nixon was talking about law and order. Every Republican candidate since then is the law and order candidate.

2:36:10 But Wallace did something in his rallies that no one had ever seen before. And the next time we saw it was Donald Trump. And that was whenever he got these liberal, and as he would call them, commie protesters in the audience, he would always attack them very directly and fight with them very directly. Because he loved showing his supporters how tough he is. And if you put him in there, he's going to fight the people who you hate. And so that, the Wallace campaign was about hate in both directions. It was, it was about, you know, Wallace expressing the hatred of the other side that his voters felt. Trump did exactly the same thing. You would see a protester at a Trump rally and very quickly Trump caught on to, oh, this is the good part of the rally. This is the part where I get to say, I want

2:37:01 want to punch him in the face. That was pure Wallace. They're taking right on. And not that Trump has the vaguest notion of history and that it had been done before. He had exactly the same sense of kind of vulgar showmanship that Wallace did. So this is a setup as far as I'm concerned, because we know how it ended for George Wallace. Well, it didn't end that way, but he got shot. Yeah, he ended up in a wheelchair. Yeah. So there's always exactly like Wallace. I always think of Wallace. Yeah, Wallace. Huh. That's a good one. Now he did go on to win the primaries in a number of key states. Didn't do him any good. But I don't know when this kind of stuff happens and all of it, you know, it's always been Nixon, Nixon, Nixon.

2:37:52 And then you have a little bit of maybe LBJ, A-hole. Yeah, just A-hole, just A-hole. And now, oh no, I always think of George Wallace. No, you don't. No, you don't. Nobody does. But why now? It feels like a... Sad setup to be a messaging messaging meme. Yeah for sure gonna do next is we had to finally go to this Well CIA's getting ready military intelligence. You won't be able to protect this guy have no worry because the luckiest guy I know is running for president or is he you kind of would like to be the president United States? No, that's not what I said you could that's not what I said. I said I'm

2:38:27 Mark Cuban in case you didn't hear considering it. I think that given the circumstances There's a unique opportunity for somebody like me who's independent who's Not affiliated with a party in any way I haven't given money to a politician since 2002 and I think that people are looking for an independent voice a real independent voice that at least has an inkling of what they're talking about if you ran you would run as a Democrat? No, absolutely not. As an independent? Potentially, and I'd say... Or as a Republican? Republican before Democrat, most likely independent because I think a lot, I think there's a an incremental value to, towards, for setting up

2:39:13 independent candidacy. Now I understand the difficulties of that and the challenges of that from an infrastructure perspective, but the positives are doing it as a Republican means you get to go head-on with Trump right in the primaries and so there's nothing I'd have more fun doing. Well, it's not gonna happen. And I can tell you why. And he should be very, very careful because he's a cheater. He's a philanderer. And I know for a fact. And, you know, he may even be a little aggressive.

2:40:01 So hashtag me too Cuban careful back down. This is not a good time for you to be doing this Especially if you don't use a Democrat he wouldn't get any support at all. He doesn't have this is the guy who sold a domain name for a billion dollars Yes, it's his business. My broadcast calm a billion dollars from Yahoo 3 what no Was it three billion? Yeah And how's that broadcast.com doing these days? Does that just forward to yahoo.com? Let's see. Search. Let me see. Broadcast.com. Is it even registered anymore? Hold on, I may be doing something wrong. Maybe we should register and resell it. Hey, half off! Broadcast.com. Ah, Yahoo. Yeah, there you go. Go straight to Yahoo. Yeah, that's a $3 billion redirect right there.

2:40:57 I should mention Ted Haussmann got a couple domains for us that are redirecting. Boomcount.com, which I'm very happy with. Yeah. And NoBordersNoNations.com. That's a good one. That's a good one. That one, somebody will come along and offer some cash. Well, good. And hopefully he'll share some of it with the show. I've got a clip of another thing that's not being covered too much, but it is being covered. You know, Michael Flynn, they're trying to think they can strong arm him. They see him as a weak person, I guess. And so they're making this connection between him and

2:41:35 They're trying to make the case that he was organizing a kidnapping of Gulan. Yeah, I love this, but we knew this. This was news months ago. Yeah, well here's the latest of it. President Trump's former national security advisor Michael Flynn is not only under scrutiny for his dealings with Russia. Special counsel Robert Mueller is also reportedly investigating whether Flynn was involved in a plot to kidnap a Turkish cleric. Jeff Pagais has more on this. In exchange, the journal says Flynn and his associates would be paid up to $15 million. The cleric, Fethullah Gulen, has been blamed by Turkey's president for a failed coup in July of 2016.

2:42:36 Gulan denies being involved. That December meeting was at least the second between Flynn and Turkish representatives. I needed to say something about it. Former CIA Director James Woolsey told CNN in March that he was at another meeting in September of 2016 when the forced removal of Gulan was also discussed. He says he's been in touch with the special counsel's office. I am not claiming that there was a concrete plan that was being fleshed out at the meeting, but there was a good deal of discussion of that general direction. In a statement, Flynn's attorney said the allegations ranging from kidnapping to bribery are outrageous and false. But in a recent federal filing, Flynn confirmed the September meeting and that his consulting firm was paid $530,000 by a company with ties to the Turkish government. Yeah.

2:43:31 You know, we have been following this guy back to... I think we caught it very early in Malaya. 2013, 2013. Here, 2014 they wanted to extradite him. Turkey is planning to begin legal proceedings to have an opposition leader extradited from the US. Yeah, that was in 2014. This guy, sitting there in the Poconos. Yeah, running the schools, corrupting the children. Running the miserable schools that are no good. Yeah, we should have... Oh, hey, hey, hey, this is what we need. We need a scandal at one of his Harmony Charter schools. A sex scandal. I don't think there's nobody there. There's a bunch of Turkish dudes drinking tea. Yeah. Oh, they're full, all right. They got students. You can't say much about the staff. They're just not the most qualified.

2:44:28 Yeah, well that doesn't seem to want to come out. I think Flynn is in some real trouble though. I think he probably did a few things incorrectly. Yeah, when you're going to be in that business you have to play by a certain set of rules and I think he was fast and loose. But you know if anything really bad happens to him Trump can just pardon him. Yeah. I think that's why a lot of guys aren't going to talk because they know if they If they talk, they're gonna be thrown to the wolves. And if they don't talk, they will... and they get indicted or some bad things happen to them, Trump will just pardon them. That's the way you do it. It's not an unusual process. And Martin Van Buren, I believe, was involved in stuff like that. Nixon for sure. And they just pardon everybody.

2:45:18 And then everyone will grouse about that and make a big stink about it. They have to try to get the stuff to happen before 2018 so they can grouse before the election. It's going to be a tiring ride. Although I do like the sex scandal stuff. If they keep using it, it keeps getting worse. And that's just, I don't think that's going to be over for a month. Oh no, no, that should continue. Come on, we need content. No. People need to tire of it, but we still have academia to go after and then we still have more, you know, somebody outed me as a sexual assault somehow. That one still baffles me.

2:45:58 A lot of lousy directors won't get work. That's probably a plus. We got an email of pushback from Sir Rod Adams about our concept of not following the CDC guidelines. Yeah, and head out. Yeah, we say head out. Everybody turn out recycling and get out of Dodge. Yeah, he says it's probably not a good idea. He's a rule follower. Well, they should be following this rule in in Europe. Questions remain after a cloud of radioactive pollution was detected over Europe in September and October. France's IRSN Nuclear Safety Institute believes ruthenium-106 may have been released between the Volga River and the Ural Mountains. That could indicate Russia or possibly Kazakhstan. It's thought a nuclear fuel treatment site or center for radioactive medicine could be the origin.

2:46:56 It could have been released during a production process or the treatment of a radioactive effluent, he says. Something may have worked improperly, resulting in the vaporization of ruthenium-106, which is more volatile than other radionuclides. Experts say there's been no impact on human health or the environment, but with Russian and Kazakh authorities denying any leak, mystery remains. From a French independent nuclear watchdog group, he says it's worrying that over a month on we still don't know the exact source. Ruthenium-106 is used in nuclear medicine. It's also found in satellites, but none containing it crashed to earth during the period in question.

2:47:38 I think we would have heard if that had happened. Yeah. Putin. Well, there's another underreported story. It's Putin. It's Putin. He's killing us. He's trying to kill us. Putin. Mm-hmm. Pooing. Oh, yeah. And if Pouin's not gonna kill the EU, Monsanto will. Campaigners want to see glyphosate banished to the history books, but EU countries have hit deadlock on the weed killer's future, which some experts claim causes cancer. The blocs fail to approve or reject a European Commission proposal for a five-year license extension. However, we don't expect the Member States' position to change at this point. Therefore, the Commission should listen. It should listen now and change their proposal into a ban on glyphosate.

2:48:22 So you don't expect the appeal committee to change something in this negotiation? No. In general, we have a lot of experience with the appeal committee on GMOs, on pesticides. In general, positions do not change. Europe's been wrestling over what to do with the chemical for two years now. It was in 2015 that the World Health Organization's Cancer Agency concluded it probably does cause cancer. The European Commission says it will resubmit its proposal over the coming weeks. I know that some member states, he says, have changed their minds to our side. I would like to see others, but that means these states, and I'm obviously thinking of Germany, have to confront their chemical industry. Meanwhile, a large long-term study on the use of glyphosate in the US has found no firm link between exposure to the pesticide and cancer. I love how the United States of Europe will gladly write up a rule that you can't fry your french fries twice.

2:49:17 But glyphosate, no, I think we really have to evaluate this. This is not... I think it's... That's the Roundup Ready stuff, correct? It's Roundup. Roundup. Why do I keep saying ready? Where did I get that from? That relates to the seeds that can grow in Roundup without being killed by the stuff. So it's like a corn seed that you can plant and you can then spray the field with Roundup and that particular plant won't die because it's Roundup ready. It's ready for Roundup, it can handle it. You know what just happened? Something I've never seen before. My iPhone started dinging and the flash started flashing. Yeah. And it stopped now. It's an emergency. What emergency? It's an emergency, obviously, or it wouldn't be doing that. Well, it has no message of an emergency.

2:50:10 What would it maybe it's gonna blow maybe it's a bomb that was weird. I've never seen that behavior Hmm it went ding ding ding ding and the flash started flashing in unison. Maybe your batteries low It's plugged in oh, oh, I know what doesn't like being permitted the batteries full. Maybe it's filled. I don't know that was very odd I figured out the echo I figured out the echo Okay, what was it? Yeah? Well I have this giant 43 inch screen now is the sound of course the minute I position the microphone differently the sound starts slapping back right into the mic That's what's happening Wow. Yeah, it does that big I'm getting a suntan while doing the concave or anything so it really reflects well No, I actually should have gotten one of those Would have been smarter

2:51:02 A little more Putin and Trump hate from NPR. It's so much fun to listen to NPR these days. They did not have a formal bilateral sit-down, but they did have two or three short conversations during the course of the APEC summit, which both men were attending. Trump told reporters that their talks focused mostly on Syria. The two leaders issued a joint statement in which they reiterated their determination to defeat ISIS in Syria and their commitment to a political solution to that country's long-running civil war. Well, you know, obviously there's some sensitivity around this meeting between the two men given Russia's interference in last year's presidential election, which has been pretty well established by U.S.

2:51:45 Oh, okay. So this is one of those moments where something that has completely been debunked, we know that not all 17 agencies signed off on it. In fact, NSA was very clear. They did not want, they did, you know, said, well, we don't know. We're withholding any judgment. And those are the guys who would know. But no, NPR just states this as fact. As you say, the US intelligence community concluded, however, that Russia did interfere and moreover that it did so for the benefit of Donald Trump. In fact, earlier today, Michael Hayden, the former director of national intelligence, tweeted that those findings have not changed. He said the director of the CIA stands by that assessment. What's Hayden got to do with it?

2:53:00 Hated you'll say anything to avoid jail time Yeah, no, it's just that's very bad disservice a disservice a huge disservice to humanity what these people are doing Yeah, cuz they have their agenda getting more Democrats in 2018. That's would be NPR and Another great frog tongue er I got a great report here from it's a little long. I But it's- Is it long? How's the show doing? We didn't get a lot of donations today. Uh, yeah, we should- We should end this pretty soon. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Okay. Should I play this last clip? It's about the alt-right. Can you move it? Well, I've already moved it for three shows. Oh, can you move it? Yeah, obviously it's movable. Well, it's so good! Why don't you use it? We'll use it as a- We'll tease it. We'll tease it if it's that good for the Thursday show. Okay.

2:53:58 It's all right for the Thursday. You mean is it today Sunday? Yeah, the Thursday show. Yes, there's a show. All right, then you can you can play us out. I don't I've got nothing. I'm done. I've been sitting here waiting for you to wrap, but you've been going on and on. I'm sorry. Yeah, you call it. It's done. But on Thursday, I have a great report for everybody about the rise of when we tease these things, they never they get bumped again. Well, there's that. The rise of the alt-right, everybody. Make sure you catch it on Thursday edition of the No Agenda Show. And eyes peeled, everybody, in the troll room for what's going on. It is a show day. You never know what could happen. Things do happen on Thursdays and Sundays. Yes, they do. Yes, they do.

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2:56:21 I don't know if we had ants. We had ant invasion. I was thinking if you desiccated a big pile of ants and then ground them to a powder like a fine grind black pepper. We were having dinner and yeah, I got an ant somehow in the meal and I ate it. These things are peppery. I got ants. I got ants. These ants, they don't need a lot. And then you see, you find all the ones that are roaming around you. I'm gonna back them off by doing the burning trick. You just torch them. And you leave them there. The only ant, there are occasional moments where there's an ant that you do not torch, and that's an ant that's carrying one of the dead ants back. I got ants.

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