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00:00 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. And Sunday October 8th 2017 this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 971 This is no agenda Scrutinizing all flags so you don't have to and coming to you from the darkest corners of the internet here in downtown Austin, Tejas. Capital of the drone star state In The Clonio! In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where the blue angels are flying everywhere and here comes one now I'm John C. DuBois It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! IN THE MORNING! Oh it's Fleet Week? Is it fleet week? Yes. It's Fleet Anima Week Yeah...it's fleet what?!

00:43 Yes, yes fleet week is nice week fleet week is fun in San Francisco. Yeah, they got boats They are lots of tons of boats a spray water in the air and they got the Blue Angels shooting around left and right up And down kind of that kind of a I would say a cliched show. I'd like to see it improved Oh yeah, it is time for a little improvement of that I'd say. Yeah they go up and make a big trail of smoke and then they come down and zoom by the best part of this show is the very beginning if you're actually over there where their doing the grandstands are on Christy Field because the jets

01:23 I don't want to give it away, but I always recommend people would go to this show. They'll find out what happened And if you get lucky You might be able to meet someone just by saying hey sailor Just showing my 70s roots. Well, that didn't work I thought you were gonna lead right into a Harvey Weinstein joke No! But we can do that after i tell you how correct you were once again What'd I do now? Well no sooner had I sung the praises of the AT&T gigabit U-verse Then the u-verse portion broke The very evening Yeah So listen to this

02:11 So the way it works is you everything's through the fiber that's fine. The fibers now the universe is the TV part, yes so they have an IPTV box this stuff that we dreamed about for decades and you were raving about how quick it was quick and just dynamite and all of a sudden It starts freezing and then crashing and rebooting, and it shows a number 8 with a red X. An X with the number eight? Yeah exactly! Maybe they're sending code... Well I went through the whole AT&T troubleshooting process you know had the guy in India talk me through it Anyway here's the problem with these little boxes its HP 1181 or IHP something like that I'll have to figure out what model number is They overheat

02:58 If you have it in an enclosed cabinet or on top of, or underneath any other piece of equipment then when it overheats It shuts down its hard drive to protect the hard drive and so I had fans on but now it's damaged beyond repair Of course. So I have to wait until I get a new one. Yeah this is dumb Whoever heard of a TV? And there's one other thing wrong with this set-top box No clock No clock blinking 12? Yeah, you really miss it when you're looking at the TV and there's no clock. I didn't think i would but yeah... I've never had a set-top box. I use satellites and they don't have clocks so I don't care Well that's distressing because you'd think they can make these things in this day and age There is no fan in it apparently

03:54 Well, the problem is to get a fan that doesn't annoy the users would have is expensive those the real super quiet fans And they do exist. They're expensive I didn't know that The super quiet ones are hmm the other ones you're talking about it cost 25 cents You know that they would normally happen there to be yeah could be buzzing along But isn't at the whole point? You can just put it into a cabinet which you can't do unless you have an infrared extender Now, I say it's a little ding in the happiness aisle. Well, I would say in Texas and some of these southern states or Arizona...I don't see how these things work at all if what you're saying is true. Yeah we have this crazy thing called air conditioning that actually seems to cool my house pretty well Yes! Not everybody has air conditioning. Not in Northern California No, you do not

04:44 Yeah, and then I think it's a Raspberry Pi that's in there. You know or some form of small small computing device Otherwise is pretty interesting But it's so made by engineers you know to Reese you can reset it to reload its software And the way here's the process if you unplug it you plug it in you see three dots you unplug it you plug It in you see three dots you unplug it you plug it in you see three dots you unplug it you plug? It in then you see your gear icon you wait Which of course tells every person in the world, oh I know it. This is clearly a gear icon got nothing to worry about then two gear icons show up and then a loading bar and then it reboots And then it freezes after 10 minutes again But this just as odd you know 2 steps forward 1 step back Jeez! It sounds like a nightmare So I was trying to figure out

05:32 I really was, I could not figure out. Isn't there an alternative box you can buy? Like with Comcast you can buy alternative boxes from Motorola. Um...I'll have to check but uh-uh y'know i'll have an update on Thursday and everything will be fine now let me just say That, uh... I- all of a sudden it was, uh, think it was Friday. And I'm messing around with the box so I'm switching channels and every single channel is celebrating the one year anniversary Of the Grab'em by The Pussy videotape from Access Hollywood It was like, what is going on? This was on the mall in Washington DC. They had a 12 hour loop playing for 12 hours straight of the Access Hollywood tape apparently organized by

06:22 Ultraviolet women's group, which you have to really read three times because you think yeah ultraviolent women's group no ultraviolet and here's a violent. Here's a quick little clip We want to remind the American people who the president really is and who he said He was on that tape a proud self-professed sexual predator I We tend to see things in the news and react for a week or so, and then kind of forget about them. So I think it's important that people remember things like this and that they're bringing attention to it and trying to move people into action." And I was just like wow this is so pathetic! Who even remembers this date? Who plans all of this stuff? And then it hit me of course... Duh!

07:16 Okay, we need to distract from the real sexual predator Harvey Weinstein It's all it's all about Trump pussy gate. It was not really a bit Yeah in the elitist media maybe you know The New York Times is writing about it But it's not really done did not dominate the news cycle that was there one year anniversary Well, two instances where it actually kind of dominated. There's only one... Let's see let's take considering what Harvey Weinstein is known for what he does and by the way I was looking at his credits I don't see how he has time to sex with anybody. No, no here's the thing that i love the most because i did exactly what you did and then we'll explain if you haven't heard about it Harvey Weinstein is a douche everybody knew it everyone was afraid to say it. A Hollywood guy. Hollywood douche bag but and who jerks off in plants in front of women? This is really sick! You're really a sick sick dude um uh

08:19 His biggest on the roster of the Weinstein if you look at the most things that are produced it is What is though the runway the run Project Runway, he's just like Trump hiring hot models for his show He is the he is the Democratic Trump in that regard and no one's making that connection. He's a sleaze Yes, well let's go. Let me give you a guy ask Adam quiz all right We got three networks yeah NBCA at four if you want to count Fox Yeah NBC ABC CBS and Fox Which of the three networks would do the most elaborate story? Do you think on Harvey Weinstein that would be not NBC You'd think CBS

09:18 Why would you think that? Because I just can't... Wait, before you think that way. Think of it from another perspective. Okay Which of the three networks has a studio that probably competes with Harvey Weinstein and in long sense fired him? Would that be ABC? Disney Yeah, ABC Yes exactly He bought or they bought the company back from Disney didn't they So they took that opportunity to go and and slam him. Butt Slam! So let's listen to the ABC report on Harvey Weinstein. Alright, let me see... come on Harvey The new headline tonight involving one of the most powerful figures in Hollywood several allegations of sexual harassment against movie producer Harvey Weinstein from young assistants to a famous actress and tonight here his response Here is ABC's Lindsay Davis now

10:09 Explosive new allegations tonight from the New York Times about Harvey Weinstein, a studio exec known for producing blockbuster movies like Good Will Hunting, Pulp Fiction and Silver Linings Playbook. Because I am so much crazier than you. Keep your voice down! repeatedly by male and female Oscar winners alike. Harvey Weinstein who believes in us and made this movie my friends at Miramax for making this film especially Harvey now Weinstein says he's planning to take a leave of absence to deal with the issue head-on The New York Times describes several sexual harassment accusations including from actress Ashley Judd who told Variety back in 2015 I was sexually harassed by one of our industry's most famous admired slash reviled bosses

10:55 She did not name him at the time, but Variety describes how he kept summoning her to his hotel room under the pretense of talking about roles in his movies and tried to get Judd to watch him take a shower. According to the New York Times, Weinstein reached settlements with at least eight women. In response to the allegations, Weinstein said in a statement, I came of age in the 60s and 70s when all the rules about behavior and workplaces were different. I appreciate that way I've behaved with colleagues in the past has caused a lot of pain and I sincerely apologize for it." Attorney Lisa Bloom daughter of feminist lawyer Gloria Allred is advising Weinstein and released a statement calling him

11:33 dinosaur learning new ways, but also says he denies many of the accusations as patently false. Weinstein's lawyer tells ABC News they plan to sue The New York Times saying the story is saturated with false and defamatory statements. The New York Times says they are confident in their reporting David? Yeah and I have to say that one thing that stands out is there aren't totally a lot of creepy dudes around This is so... if you read what he did, it's very, very creepy. But not even as creepy as his- Did you read his memo? What he wrote? This dick?! No. Oh! Oh! Please, it's just a short note

12:15 So here's a guy who is full of remorse, then he's going to work on his problem and he has a long way to go. Bullcrap that's good I came of age in the 60s and 70s when all the rules about behavior in workplaces were different That was the culture then! That's bullcrap Thank you I've since learned it's not an excuse in the office or out of it to anyone. Oh, well that some good- what have you learned Harvey? I realized sometime ago I needed to be a better person and my interactions with the people I work with have changed! I appreciate the way I've behaved with colleagues in the past has caused a lot of pain that I sincerely apologize for. The hero...

12:56 Though I'm trying to do better, I know that I have a long way to go. That is my commitment. My journey now will be to learn about myself and conquer my demons." Over the last year I've asked Lisa Bloom, this is the woman who represents- You just quit by the way Yeah but you know why she was helping him? She has a development deal for her book with him Yeah, nice. Over the last year I've asked Lisa Bloom to tutor me and she's put together a team of people! I've brought on therapists and plan to take leave of absence from my company and deal with this issue head-on. I so respect all women and regret what happened. I hope that my actions will speak louder than words and that one day we'll all be able earn their trust and sit down with Lisa to learn more."

13:38 Jay-Z wrote in 444, "'I'm not the man I thought I was and I better be that man for my children.' The same is true for me. I want a second chance in the community but I know I've got work to work to earn it. I have goals that are now priorities. Trust me this isn't an overnight process." This guy says trust me! I love that I've been trying to do this for 10 years and this is a wake-up call. I cannot be more remorseful about the people I hurt, and I plan to do right by all of them." And now this is my favorite...the end of last paragraph. "...I'm going to need a place to channel that anger so I've decided that I am going to give the NRA my full attention!"

14:19 I hope Wayne LaPierre will enjoy his retirement party. I'm going to do it at the same place as my bar mitzvah. I am making a movie about our president, perhaps we can make it a joint retirement party? One year ago I began organizing a $5 million foundation to give scholarships to women directors at USC." Well this might seem coincidental! It has been in the works for a year. It will be named after my mom and I won't disappoint her!" Dickhead. Wow, that is... I didn't realize he turned into a complete douche at the end. Yeah! He politicized it. Turned the tables and made it Trump's fault. Targeting Trump. The NRA and the NRA. Can you believe that? Yeah, I can. I can believe it. That's really just...

15:09 Play that at the end. Yeah, I mean... Of course the thing against me is Ashley Judd is the number one complainer and she's like a douche herself remember her singing at the mall during the Pussy March and all the rest of it and calling out all men as creeps? Well Harvey Weinstein does not helping that's for sure No, I wouldn't think so man. Yeah, I did want to ask you something yeah pictures of him with Hillary by the way Well this that picture with him and Hillary is the one where she has her flat hands or palms around Yes, it's really odd when you do you see very creepy? And it's one of the few profile pictures where you can see How much work she does on her hair to give her some extra height because what she's like 5 1 or something

16:02 There must be four inches of hair piled on top of her head. You have to take a look at that picture again Very interesting Just talking about you know creepy white men for a moment I have a little statistical question that like it explained to me, okay? When it comes to well when we talk about white cops killing black Americans or let's just say Black Lives Matter says specifically blacks will just say black Americans And they say that a disproportionate percentage of white cops kill black men. But if you look at the numbers, it's hundreds and hundreds more white men that are killed by white cops than black men that are killed by white cops. But the argument is because... well black is 12% of the entire population It's disproportionate right?

17:02 That's the argument. I just want to understand, I've got the statistical argument. It is kind of the argument but let me see where you're going? Well where i'm going is... this actually came from Mother Jones If you look at the number, because now what is the meme? Crazy white men killing everybody. White male terrorists! White males shooting every- Mass killings! Mass killings... All white men Sure there's more white men by cumulative number But if you look at the percentage of what each demographic represents in the American population

17:45 The- it's blacks and Asians are almost double white men. So which way are we gonna do it? Are we going to do by cumulative numbers or are we going to do it by percentages represented in the entire population? Whatever makes the white man look bad. Okay, just want make sure I'm on message Yeah, well I'm glad you brought that up. Megan Kelly had a little thing on wines she's her show is no good No, she's been she hasn't and she never found her footing She has um She's she was at the beginning of the show now. She does this The Daily Show she does it competes with its bumped the hoda and that other woman's Kelly or whatever name is shows off for half hour

18:39 And you start to realize when you compare these shows and like the Kathy Lee show, not Kathy Lee but that other one I can't remember. Yeah it's a show, oh Kelly Ripper Show? All these shows are all extremely light-hearted Except hers. She's trying to be serious, hard-hitting news. No one wants that! She starts off with hard hitting news and then kind of depressing stories... she actually started off this is the Weinstein story yeah she brought the Weinstein story into The Four I plugged her book in the process by the way very subtly but i don't think this is a kinda show anyone really wants to watch let's listen to this

19:15 A legendary movie producer and Oscar winner Harvey Weinstein is in the news today. Did you see this story? Yes. Did you know who he was? Yeah, okay so he is the subject of a very detailed New York Times report today alleging that he made inappropriate sexual advances on women for decades including movie star Ashley Judd and employees who had worked for him among others In a statement he issued yesterday, Weinstein said that he quote came of age in the 60s and 70s when all the rules about behavior and workplaces were different. He added quote I appreciate the way I've behaved with colleagues in the past has caused a lot of pain and I sincerely apologize for it though I'm trying to do better I know I have a long way to go

19:56 So he's issued an apology, but also a threat. Weinstein's attorney says that he will sue the New York Times and that the Times story is quote saturated with false and defamatory statements about his clients And at The New York Times ignored evidence presented to them He says in advance of its publication In the meantime Weinstein has taken leave of absence now from his company NBC News has not been able to independently verify these allegations But as you know this is one of several of these incidents that we have seen come up over the past year. And it's sort of dominating the national discussion in a way it never has before this issue and to his credit he is taking some responsibility for the allegations, you know? It sounds like he's apologizing for his behavior to some extent but also taking issues with The Times report I want to get you guys to weigh-in on it because our staff was buzzing about this Alex, Alex has got somebody with a question Hi! Good morning That by the way is always a clue right there

20:54 When the host talks about how the staff is talking about these things, then it's death knell. That's never good! You never want the host talking about what's going on I don't think so. It's just, and she... Don't play the rest this woman asks a question what do you do about this sort of thing? And Kelly goes and plugs her book and says just say no it's just like this is not what people want in one of these shows on the other hand i'm thinking is a news reporter. That's what she was, she just one of those... She's the good-looking one but that's what she did. She's an anchor, you know, talk meat puppet, all these things. She is not one of these happy go lucky jokers that just makes nothing but fun and likes to rib people and have a grand old time even though in one of their outlines they say oh she's got such a great sense of humor I've never seen her be funny ever

21:53 No, and sense of humor is it seems like a mean girl's sense of humor. Yeah You know the pretty girl that's got the sense of you rude Well did where'd she get that haircut kind of sense of humor which is funny amongst a crowd of people like that but So I give it six months It's over yeah if that if that But yeah, what do you think? I think Weinstein story will go away pretty good, but no just yeah, it's already going away It's just an interesting little side light. The guy is a massive Democrat, huge! And I'm actually surprised they went after him so vehemently since he does support the party. This was my original point is why all of a sudden on a Friday... Is this the big breaking news? Other than that it was exactly the same day as

22:44 You know the the the pussy gate anniversary which was promoted certainly on Friday more than I didn't see ABC But that's understandable because of the competition Just seemed like there was protection going on or distraction, or whatever you want a little bit Yeah, they kind of mentioned it here and there almost casually but Me no likey me. No likey So that would be the end of that and I think this guy's you know, he does what he does. Isn't this where we've always learned about Hollywood and the casting couch? What's new yeah And not just that we never heard of the shower couch or yes it watch they gotta take a shower But how about the story in there in the kitchen at the restaurant did you read that one no

23:31 No. What happened in the kitchen and the rest of it? Oh my god, so there was a young new employee and apparently this happens to all of them And he said hey- He co-owned the restaurant I forget which restaurant it was Famous one Now let's come down take a look at the kitchen They're standing in the hallway and she kind of has her block So she can't leave that way Her friend had actually said I'm gonna come down in 10 minutes if you're not backed by then And she's talking and he's like, hey you wanna hang out? You know just hitting her up a little bit. She says well I'm in a committed relationship Can't you shut up and stand there then he starts masturbating and then ejaculates into the plant in front of her God that's why I said it Hollywood yeah, I mean that's creepy is bad

24:25 That's you're right there. I can't wait for the award shows at the end of the year Harvey good to see your time achievement Harvey Weinstein could somebody bring out a pilot plan What that's that is very creepy guys are pervert? That's all it is Hervey Weinstein there you go exactly Did give me some, some- Some chuckles. The fact that he thought he could get away with all this forever is uh... Well there's nobody stopping him! Yeah it's the same when the big Sony hack took place and you know conveniently the movie about North Korea got the best promotion ever and they published emails of the top executives laughing about black actors making all kinds of racial jokes It's okay it's just Hollywood acting whatever

25:24 Yeah, they get away with a lot. They do so yeah go ahead I'm just gonna say and then the meanwhile they get people still adore them or to door everyone involved in the business And then they listen to tweets about how what a creep Trump is mm-hmm? No well I wanted to say about The Vegas Massacre Yeah, I have a bunch of leftover clips that i want to play. They're all new but they're kind of left over yeah just wanted this one to mention something that you know there is so much focus on what happened and I think there's actually some very interesting analysis being done You know? I've seen people analyzing wave forms of weapons and comparing you know just a whole lot of things

26:10 And I want people to know that, I look at all of that. If you wanna even have a couple of clips that could fit a so-called false flag narrative... By the way Steve Pchenik? He hasn't called me in a couple weeks he sends an email yesterday and with a link to an appearance he did on Alex Jones show. And he says it's a false flag AND no one was killed! You know, it's just like this. And I'm investigating everything but that is really at this point that's what you're supposed to do but here's what happens whether this happened or not doesn't matter legislation is coming into play This was a 9-11 type event already said that the bigger of event the bigger the legislation and it happens when your shocked and now people are running around trying to prove he did, who didn't why? It doesn't matter

27:08 We got the Patriot Act after 9-11. We're under a consistent, renewed by every president state of emergency My God! Austin has dumped Columbus Day for Indigenous Peoples' day Shit happens after these big events That that was a trend it has nothing to do with this event I just I'm just throwing in there. I think this event is going to have less impact than people would like to imagine and But, I do think thats interesting that Boston would change, would follow suit Forget that part Anyway, uh... Well but let me just finish my thought. Yeah finish your thought And this is not I have to say this is not like some planned thing It's like oh they wanted to bring in more body scanners and blah blah That will happen! We've been predicting this from since they were at the airport Which another thing that happened after 9-11 A huge inconvenience of theater and a big money grab But these things aren't set up in advance This is groupthink This is you know The hive mind

28:10 This is people who, you know, we have to do something. They all think alike and I don't see any premeditation for this but we will be definitely going to see all kinds of new legislation certainly when it comes to firearms. I've already tried to order a bump stock They're sold out every... I talked to KJ, Sir Chris? They're sold out. You can't get one. He said the day after this he has a number of bullseye is number of gun stores. He said sales are through the roof you know well on TV all you see is we gotta get rid of the guns gotta get rid of the guns we have just gotta get rid of the guns gotta get them

28:55 But everyone's running to buy more guns. Yeah, I know the gun sales always fly through the roof when these events happen which is just I Peculiarly ironic and counterintuitive Somebody sent us one of our producers sent us a couple of videos or they should link to the other videos that technique That's used by the bump stock can actually be done without the bump stock yeah And he's in the video YouTube video show if you hold it You can make the rifle kick You can position yourself on the trigger in a certain way so when the rifle kicks, it does bounce like kind of off your fat gut. And it creates the same effect because you just start firing like crazy! For someone like me with turrets its not that hard to do. Done

29:42 But those things are just a gimmick. I think people want to own one so they can talk about it." Well, and the news media is jumping on this. Everyone's jumping on the legislation and of course we have little stories like this from Phoenix. Jonathan Pring says he wasn't trying to put himself at the center of such a heated debate but as a gun owner he felt it was a small way he could do his part When Jonathan Pring posted these images on Facebook, showing the moment he went from current gun owner to former gun owner. He expected some response but now knows exactly what it feels like to go viral. I didn't wake up yesterday planning to be like the poster child or local Phoenix poster child for the American Gun Debate

30:20 That is what seems to have become of me. The pictures show Pring willingly handing over his firearms, a big old machine gun and a pistol to a uniformed Phoenix police officer in the living room of his Phoenix home. I don't have to hear the whole report but it's interesting we had this Brit who was giving up his guns and yeah Brits Yeah one of those There was uh... This was on Max Keiser Show John Oliver has come out against guns! Shocking! I think it was on Max Keiser Show he had A former CIA operative, Robert David Steele. It's just a short clip, but just to give you an idea of what is going on the interwebs as well where Max lives. I am the son of an oil man and lived overseas all my life. I was very fortunate in both having several graduate degrees being Marine Corps Infantry Officer, Marine Corps Intelligence Officer And then a clandestine intelligence case officer. I've programmed imagery satellites, helped steal signals code books, done counterintelligence. I'm basically intimately familiar

31:22 with the way in which the US government does or does not do the craft of intelligence. Most terrorists are false flag terrorists, or are created by our own security services Now I have no direct access in England but I will tell you that here in the United States every single terrorist incident we have had has been a false flag Or has been an informant pushed on by the FBI In fact, we now have citizens taking out restraining orders against FBI informants that are trying to incite terrorism. We've become a lunatic asylum. Now, I'm going to lead you into your clips because I can see the titles. But there are a lot of things that you kind of look for just on television when our brains always fill in the blanks but we haven't seen a number of things no FBI statements We haven't seen ambulances arriving at hospitals What we really haven't seen anywhere on television is direct family members now Vegas is transient and a lot of people probably

32:28 who did not live there, but it is always... I just put together a quick little compilation of CNN. What do they title this? People Remembered Loved Ones from Vegas Massacre and none of them is a direct family member. They're all friends. You know, it says friend or someone was the course's teacher so as like school administrator and it's just noticeable. The world is a little more cloudy today because he was our son John He went out protecting Heather, that shows his true self in his last moments of life. He was protecting other people like he would do every day

33:07 tragic loss. This is a really great guy that unfortunately, a lot of people are never gonna get to know." And just every single one... Well the first one you placed is our son John! Now before you go on I want to say I've seen plenty of ambulance pictures yeah I've seen plenty of evidence that this was the shooting took place and I've seen plenty of... You're watching different stuff than I'm watching yes? I saw plenty of parents. Hey I'm not making a case presenting what is out there, so you're getting a little heated for no reason. I'm not... No, no because it's like you're watching-I don't know what you're watching because everything that was CNN! That was CNN? I watch the news networks. I watched the network news. Okay do you have did you bring a clip of a family member? I didn't think to because I saw so much of it okay So just saying I have not seen it okay well but they're definitely giving you the wrong impression I think okay

34:05 Doesn't matter. Let me start with my premise I don't think this guy shot a gun let alone killed all those people well that wasn't your premise on Thursday it changed Okay, and I'll tell you why it changed if that things change It's changed because of the way this thing is unfolding they can't find anything on this guy But they will refuse no they refused to say that maybe he didn't do it at all They refused to give us anything on this guy. I just like one CCTV tape. Come on, this is Vegas! This is total bullcrap there's no... and there's cops everywhere. That's why I'm bringing this up. There are no tapes of who went in and out of that room. Oh? I am very suspicious of the hero of the day

34:52 The security guard? The security guard who is yet to appear on camera. Yep, well there's another... Is he not appearing on camera because somebody is going to shoot him if he appears on camera and they can recognize him? Yes! Not who you think but probably yes. Who do I think? Whoever is helping withhold all information No, I think it's the Mexican cartel Ah now your talking bring it on So let's play a couple of clips. Now, let's imagine here... Let's try to from the perspective of a storyteller, let's imagine a couple story possibilities The guy is a gun runner There is no question about it. An arms dealer that what I said

35:34 Yes, I don't gunrunner is different from our runners different gun runner would be overseas running guns. No he's an arms dealer Yeah And and he and the best market for that around here is the Mexican cartels various Mexican gangs The Mexican Mafia perhaps there in Las Vegas am I? Ms 13 ms-13 their ms-13 is in Las Vegas are all there You go up there to rob the guy. You're gonna do a meeting and you decide that he's gonna rob him or you bring in some psycho friend, you and some psycho friend going there to do a deal and the psycho friend says hey look at the concert down there and he starts shooting at them through one of the windows And then maybe there's a couple other guys and they this would explain this second window being broken open Some guy can do that too The panic guy gets freaked out and they just shoot him

36:28 They empty their couple magazines for nine minutes. They don't shoot any longer than that, have a little fun grab what his cash if he has any they rob him maybe steal some weapons maybe they don't there is something like there's something a little disturbing about just to stop you I like where you're going um i keep looking at all the shells the casings the rounds on the floor And I don't see, I mean I see what looks like a Colt .45 or a .38 and not spent. There's still live rounds just laying around but I do not see something that fits with any of the other weapons Maybe the single bolt action But there should be tons of spent cartridges Why are there like live ammo on the ground?

37:16 We don't know why, who took those pictures or what they took them of. I saw one shot where the dead guy's got you see his legs? Why don't we see his body dead? Yeah and if you shoot yourself in the face or in the mouth which it looks like how does the gun wind up over your head the other direction Well, that's what I think it was. I think he was murdered. I don't think this guy did it. I think he is a patsy and meanwhile you have the security guard who supposedly went up there for the... because he was suspicious of door being ajar now we hear in his latest report which will here all play these clips that there was a door alarm that went off and that's why he went out to and then they apparently peppered him

37:55 The first story was they shot a bullet through the door and it hit him in the thigh. And then they apparently were involved... Well, let's play this security guard clips and then we'll talk about them afterwards. Five days after the worst mass shooting in American history Las Vegas police acknowledging They still don't know what drove Steven Paddock to open fire on that helpless crowd I get it! All one answers We have looked at everything. But tonight we are learning that HERO security guard Jesus Campos may have prevented further bloodshed. Police say Paddock had been shooting when Campos arrived on the 32nd floor responding to a door alarm. We believe that he was shooting into the crowd and then the security officer was shot during that event. A door alarm? Yeah, a door alarm. There's no alarm on the front of the door in Vegas is there?

38:52 Uh, they know when the door's open I think. Where is the security camera during all this? It just makes zero sense. It's with the NASA moon landing tapes. Oh i'm sorry. Let's play Security Guard 2. And Matt is back with us again tonight and police are calling that security guard a true hero That's right. Police are saying that as that guard neared Paddock's door, it diverted his attention from the crowd below to the hallway he began firing wildly into it injuring that security guard now somehow that guard managed to get away and alert authorities He is being hailed as a hero tonight As this city David continues to mourn there have been thousands of people here at this memorial site all day David Okay couple timeline issues

39:38 They shot the bullets were shot out of the hotel suite for nine minutes. So police didn't arrive for an hour, right? Right 72 minutes yeah this guy was there nine minutes afterwards apparently because he's the one responsible for the shooting to cease according to this report Yeah and that's what the cops are saying oh they security guards in their hero The security hero was in there and then the guy stopped shooting and started shooting at him. And then he went, in the way they describe it, he got away somehow. He went to tell authorities which again took about an hour to get there after that. Now I don't know about you but I've been to Vegas. I've been to places that have security guards. I do not know of any security guards who don't have over amped

40:30 walkie-talkies, that's making a lot of racket. That's what would have happened what you just did he would have been on his horn talking about being shot on the 32nd floor and it would result in people showing up but somehow he got away and then had to go alert people about this situation So, this doesn't make any sense. Now the other thing that doesn't make any sense is the other report that came up... I don't have it in front of me, I didn't reclip it but It was the discussion by some of the police who were kind of annoyed by the security guard getting so much credit

41:19 saying that they were coming out of the elevators as he was retreating and he was part of the firefight that took place. That would have had to be ten minutes after the initial contact Now you know why you don't see him on TV, because his story doesn't line up And thats why they spent so much time in the press briefings on the timeline Which they still haven't got correct by their own discussions. So the security guard story is rather sketchy and I don't know if there is a security guard, that could be non-existent person we don't see him he could be someone hiding in fear because he knew what was going on or may have been part of it which is not unusual with security guards you know get paid a lot but I'm not accusing him

42:07 But the whole thing is very suspicious and it doesn't make any sense. And I'm totally convinced that this guy shoots himself with a magnum or some crazy gun, which is not anything what he's going to do but let's go play the rest of this which has four clips and all fairly short And it's about Patek. Let's start off with the one I think that was on CBS, Patek was up at the casino which is a baffling thing because he makes nothing but money. Left by social media post, by telephone call that was made, by investigators mining computer data Today in our investigation we don't have any of that uncovered. I wish we did

42:56 Paddock holed up in a suite at the Mandalay Bay Casino Resort with several weapons including AK-47s and AR-15s. Sources tell CBS his arsenal would have cost more than $50,000. Investigators also found Paddock's car in the hotel parking garage it held an explosive, tannerite and at least 1,000 rounds of ammunition CBS's John Blackstone asked if losses at the casino tables or any financial problems may have been a motive. I can tell you that we've ruled that out as one of the reasons there is no massive loss of money, none of those things might cause that in fact i would say it was probably to the contrary he was up. He was up? Yeah Then I have just point out...I know an international, a real international arms dealer Joop van den Nieuwenhuijzen

43:48 And he's gotten in a lot of trouble because he sold some submarines to the Chinese, Dutch guy. I went with him to Vegas for the helicopter show when he owned McDonnell Douglas. He was trying to sell me an MD-900. I got a friend you got free Learjet rides and all kinds of groovy stuff. Vegas is perfect for this kind of business It is what goes on there all the time, all the security conferences, all the big weapons conferences And as you point out Yeah Right right near them You know it's convenient for the Mexican gangs and we do have a history of selling them under

44:29 Under his eye under the watchful eye of the FBI such as the fast and furious program Which I'd never really expected for you to go there because that's kind of that is it was the first 4chan Theory based on read any of the fortune stuff. You're nailing it actually Well, I'm doing it from logic. Yeah and i like that So let's go to the other things that confirm this And again, I think it would be just as easy for the police if they didn't want to get themselves into too much trouble To say we don't know that this guy did any of this It might have been somebody else But then that brings in the issue of where is the cameras? Who came in and out of there who could've been Where are all these security and Vegas was loaded with security Was there some deal where these cameras were turned off

45:15 I think they use the same company that used at the Pentagon on 9-11 for their security cameras to capture the plane crashing into the Pentagon. Yeah, yeah, very funny. It's funny. The reference is not to say it was the same company...I don't know if you should bring in spurious information but the reference is the fact that there are supposedly videos of the jets slamming into the Pentagon that they won't release! Right right Why? Yeah, because it was a missile. Anyway Paddock psych rundown one and also We'll take you through more of that video in a moment and what it tells investigators But first new information about the shooter Steven Paddock And why police have spent he had also considered attacks on crowds at big events in Chicago and Boston Okay stop stop I want you to listen this would listen to this bullcrap with this in mind

46:12 They are making all this NBC, they're making all kinds of assumptions. He considered shooting it up in Chicago at Lollapalooza. Can I just stop you on that very point? This is because I'm getting text messages from young people who went to Lollapalooza and they're freaking out! I'm like hold on a second... You know, there's a concert everywhere these days. I mean if he was in Austin Oh He was there during South by is gonna kill people so he was there during ACL live who's gonna kill people their Every hotel overlook some kind of venue at some point that it such conjecture It is that is terrorism right? There That's terrorism is the worst report in this regard that what you just said that I've ever heard Terrorism all conjecture and it's like

47:02 beyond the pale in so far as like jumping to conclusions. This guy travels everywhere and because he checked it, because he actually didn't check into some hotel that he got a reservation at, uh, did he was going to do a murder? But wait, well, he's never done one before is never gonna do one again, but we're going to make these assumptions and this report you might as well start from beginning of this report in the followup are outrageous in the way they twist things.

47:51 Lester, good evening. Investigators say this new information comes from what authorities hope will be one of the most productive searches now underway of his electronic trail from the half dozen phones and computers he left behind Officials say Steven Paddock did internet research earlier this year on Lollapalooza, the summer music festival in Chicago's Grant Park. They say he even reserved rooms in a hotel that overlooks the park for a few days during the event though we never actually showed up. He also researched events at Boston's Fenway Park and nearby hotels officials say

48:28 According to FBI searches of electronic devices found in his homes and his internet browsing history. A sign, they say that Paddock was thinking about attacking large crowds months before the Las Vegas shooting rampage. Sensationalism! Terrorism! selling fear, great ROI for these people. It's unbelievable this report is so lame and they do it with such earnestness and certainty I find it abhorrent but let's play part two Thinking about attacking large crowds months before the Las Vegas shooting rampage But so far investigators are stumped over how Steven Paddock went from being a varsity tennis player and sociable high school student in California

49:12 to the antisocial former accountant who became a mass murderer. His brother Eric has said he knows of no serious health problems that would have made such a profound change." Now, hold on this is a different brother from the Nutty Brother? No it's the same Nutty Brother I thought his name was Patrick This guys name is Eric? I thought his name was Patrick! I didn't hear what his name was in this and I didn't know his name It's the same guy Okay well you saw it so The Steve I knew longer than God. And officials say his girlfriend Mary Lou Danley has told authorities that Paddock had some mental health issues and would sometimes lie in bed crying out, oh my god! But investigators say they have yet to find any- Now wait a minute... How did they get this information? I heard this too Where'd they get this information from? From the girlfriend

50:12 Yeah, but who? Is there a leak in the FBI? No no. The Filipino girlfriend I understand Who was interrogated by the FBI Apparently this is what they got out of her And where's that statement I don't know, i didn't see it anywhere. Thank you! They're just making it up as far as im concerned. They could be making it up but even so saying oh my god when your in bed is like...I dont know. Danley has told authorities that Paddock had some mental health issues and would sometimes lie in bed crying out Oh My God But investigators say they have yet to find any health problems, physical or mental grave enough to push him into becoming a killer. As for police saying he might have had an escape plan, investigators say they found no hard evidence of that or help from anyone else in planning or carrying out the attack and despite tips that Paddock was with a woman on day of shooting No such person has yet been found Pete Williams NBC News Washington

51:11 Nah, this-this... Now by the way can you imagine being a gun runner and you're kind of sleepless in your bed and you think of some unbelievable scheme? Yes. And you say oh my god! Oh no! What is it honey what is it? Nothing nothing. Since you can't tell her anything. Oh I don't know just for your run down I do have two clips on the Medication angle, so I know you have one too. So however you want to play it. I actually don't have any... Do I? Which one are you thinking of? Oh yeah, oh no, you have a Patek Psych rundown ABC details But let me bring these in then Yeah okay Two clips Now this is...I think this was Fox Business This may be CNBC, I can't remember The second one is definitely Fox Business They're touching the third rail of cable news And the night terrors that she talks about

52:06 What does all that tell you? The night terrors interest me quite a bit. If it was just once, it could be written off as a bad dream but the implication is that it was more than once and that tells me this man was very disturbed to be crying and moaning and screaming while he's asleep if a child were doing that we'd be calling the doctor The second most important thing is the revelation that he was taking Valium, that it would- he was new at using it. They had a prescription for him. Valium is an anti anxiety agent It's tranquilizer Yeah makes you really amped up and hyped and ready to go kick some ass and kill some people. It's like a drug. It's uh... Damazepam. Old fashioned Trank? Yeah, Damazepam isn't it

52:58 Yeah, maybe. I've had that it's to go to sleep. Martini calms the person down but But extended use, uh, frequent use and extended use can cause more problems. When the person comes down off the dose, the drug is no longer acting in their system. They can go into a clinical depression and become even more nervous. So obviously, putting all that together Tony would certainly want to talk to the doctor who had prescribed these medications to him right? Right! Again I'm surprised where this investigation has not gotten to that point i mean these drugs are controlled prescriptions are very very controlled so why aren't we figuring out more about

53:48 who prescribed these and why, and this goes back to my contention. By the way, my first thought seriously... My first thought was Shantix I swear that's like man this guy is probably... Was he a smoker? Did he try to stop smoking? He looks like one doesn't he? Yeah! This particular report is weird because we've never heard them go into this before any of these other crazy people who have taken more extreme product It gets better And by the way, Valium is kind of public domain. It's a generic... Yeah I don't think it's hurting anybody's business Is that an RSSI? I don't think so

54:27 It's an old-fashioned tranquilizer. I don't know if you can look it up, somebody could tell us... It's just a mild... There is nothing that is causing these problems that these other drugs do. But again, Shantix! That was my first thought. Man this guy must have been trying to stop smoking because that would explain everything People do the craziest crap on Shantix but now this This is from Fox Business They're going to hit the third rail again but then its going to spin into pretty much Five out of every eight young men in America are now going to be suspect of snapping. Thank you, Hillary appreciate your reporting there and then two more on the profile of this reclusive shooter and why he did it police say they are looking closely at the entire life of 64 year old Steven Paddock He has been described as just a normal guy A successful real estate investor and gambler multi-millionaire wealthy retiree It didn't fit them as shooter profile

55:25 Let's take this to psychiatrist and author Dr. Keith Ablow, doctor what do you think of the news that he was moaning and groaning in his bed according to his girlfriend? Yeah, no you nailed it because we both caught that this was something new. This is a new story and everyone's analyzing it and for them to even briefly touch on the drug industry in cable news which is very very dangerous although you're only talking about one particular drug but now okay we've got the moaning and groaning this is good news Well Liz I think that this information continues to contribute to potential theory that really what motivated

54:27 It's an old-fashioned tranquilizer. I don't know if you can look it up, somebody could tell us... It's just a mild... There is nothing that is causing these problems that these other drugs do. But again, Shantix! That was my first thought. Man this guy must have been trying to stop smoking because that would explain everything People do the craziest crap on Shantix but now this This is from Fox Business They're going to hit the third rail again but then its going to spin into pretty much Five out of every eight young men in America are now going to be suspect of snapping. Thank you, Hillary appreciate your reporting there and then two more on the profile of this reclusive shooter and why he did it police say they are looking closely at the entire life of 64 year old Steven Paddock He has been described as just a normal guy A successful real estate investor and gambler multi-millionaire wealthy retiree It didn't fit them as shooter profile

55:25 Let's take this to psychiatrist and author Dr. Keith Ablow, doctor what do you think of the news that he was moaning and groaning in his bed according to his girlfriend? Yeah, no you nailed it because we both caught that this was something new. This is a new story and everyone's analyzing it and for them to even briefly touch on the drug industry in cable news which is very very dangerous although you're only talking about one particular drug but now okay we've got the moaning and groaning this is good news Well Liz I think that this information continues to contribute to potential theory that really what motivated

56:03 Steven Paddock may have been an underlined degree of something on the autistic spectrum Asperger's syndrome Wherein you know he's suffering but suffering silently. He doesn't know how to share his incredible growing Rage his sense of desperation, he's a tremendously organized fellow We get that from a number of sources. He's having his girlfriend stand away from him sometimes when he uses the video poker machines It's video poker, it isn't around a table where somebody bluffing is often something you intuit I was reading the statistics about video poker

56:43 You pretty much can win about, I think what are the odds? You have 99% that you can win back but the casino always has that 1%, which goes back to my thesis about money laundering. It's a perfect way to do it. Yeah whitewashing. Even if you get 80 percent of your money back who cares He is not a man necessarily doesn't seem like it who has got an emotional connection with folks. Its all about rigidity obsessiveness If he has a Facebook account, which I've heard there's one. It's very limited There's not much happening in his social world because he's so limited That's the kind of crucible in which somebody can become and more and more enraged wait for it Even wears gloves supposedly when he's driving now what's remarkable? Oh You know, I think you might be a glove wearer when you're drying driving

57:36 I'm not, but i could be. Yeah being my looks cool My mom used to put on gloves to drive yeah you know like the fingerless gloves? You know half the fingers that was uh yeah people would say yeah he seemed like a normal guy what's normal about somebody who doesn't greet his neighbors when they say hello to him and wave Again, I'm looking at you John. I have a feeling you don't say if you're not friendly to your neighbors Very friendly to my neighbor. You know where you're coming from But but I do know neighbors who never say that we have some Chinese across the air Taking over here for the guy of acknowledges on my house is here now right now. It's not that unusual Okay, but we're getting closer to his point Nothing back often wearing gloves to drive moaning in bed

58:24 who moves close to a city in Las Vegas, close to Las Vegas in order to play video poker and his brother's like well he seemed normal to me. He did? Not at all! Doctor did other mass shooters exhibit the similar behaviors of Asperger syndrome as you point out He did not use the word Asperger's. He did not say that She just read the next line as you just pointed out Aspergers because this is what he's saying, completely OCD Never used the word Asperger's He said the autism spectrum but thats a severe end of the spectrum

59:07 Absolutely, you know. You just go to Aurora Colorado, you go to Sandy Hook and see folks with the same kind of oddities even going back to Dylan Kleibold and others these folks who seem socially ill at ease quite obsessive perhaps on the spectrum. It's interesting, Liz and I'm not saying this is a fait accompli. I'm raising the question you know we've seen Asperger's disorder and autism spectrum disorders they keep changing the names ratchet up right people like why? Why do these things keep going up what are we also see going up mass shootings

59:48 Now, I'm not saying that two things are one. But really shouldn't we look at it and wonder whether internally some tiny minority of folks on the spectrum become increasingly increasingly frustrated and enraged? Why can't I participate? Yeah why can't I feel alive in a concert? And then terrible things could happen now as Fox Business Okay, Fox Business is just as bad. But let me just say... These guys they can't get good guests! There's too many opportunities nobody wants to be a guest on these shows and so you're dragging any old guy that kind of sounds good when he's yakking away about one thing or another. Here's how I interpret it. Blame it on diabetes Well stand back here's how I interpreted we were going towards the drug angle

1:00:39 No, we got to steer away from that because look what do we see with all these mass shooters besides if they're white? What do we see? We see that they're all on the spectrum and I guess Asperger's in the lower end of the spectra. You'd be high functioning as the other end and this fits neatly into the expanded background checks were going to receive you have a diagnosis on the spectrum which is five out of every eight boys now in America. You screwed say... I would take it to a different I mean, I like the idea of selling more drugs. But I think the whole thing is especially with it bringing in Valium and yakking about it is another reason to refuse to allow people to buy guns. That's what that's what I'm saying this is you do not hear what I said? I heard you said but he didn't say guns but you interrupted me and I let you well I said guns I beat you to it that's what pisses me off so yes no guns for you and then right after

1:01:35 We don't think you should live within a thousand yards of the school. You know, you'd be like a sex offender. Yes! You have to register that is... That's what that's the war on crazy how many times we said it? It's the war on crazy. So we talked about this million times and were right. It appears so Especially when you have a situation where this guy's just a patsy. And, you know the first guy who said this to me was actually one of my liberal friends who called me up... I won't say who it is. He called me up and he says, I can't talk to any of my friends about this but i think this guy was a patsy and I found him more interesting than he couldn't talk anybody but ME! Yeah. Because I would accept at least listen to him yeah no that is not the conversation you're supposed to be having

1:02:23 So let's play this last psych rundown again. Now, this is the other ones were on NBC This is the ABC and it's a little longer It's got a few more details but But again leads me to conclude that this guy didn't do anything And also tonight what was written on a note found in the gunman's hotel room as we also learned just how much the government made In those casinos and the days before the attack and the millions he made in just one year Here's ABC chief investigative correspondent Brian Ross What did they find? Oh, you didn't share it. A note? You know there's two things this note they don't nobody talks about ABC does I thought it was a go-go the other thing that was cute the other thing they if you've heard all these clips I've had I've heard your clips nobody brings up this IRS agent ever That's good isn't it? Chief investigative correspondent Brian Ross

1:03:20 She just returned to the US from the Philippines two days ago. But tonight, federal authorities have put a close watch on Mary Lou Danley to make sure she doesn't try to leave the country as they struggled to find the motive behind her boyfriend's crime. We have no credible information to report to you as to motivation FBI agents and police say they are skeptical of her claims that she knew nothing about the plans of her longtime boyfriend Steven Paddock But a family friend who visited them in Nevada says that could well be true, that she was subservient to him. It's not what I saw as a loving caring relationship Adam Lefevre told an Australian TV station he spent a week with the couple in Nevada in 2015 staying with them in a luxury casino suite and later at Paddock's home where Paddock showed off what he called his

1:04:13 gun room. He was very strict and very firm on the fact that it is a right, it's a capacity and its the freedom of every American resident to participate to own a gun and use as seen fit where need be and that law should never be changed Late today, authorities confirmed reports the shooter left behind some kind of a note which authorities say contained a series of cryptic numbers but was not a suicide note. Officials are tracking every aspect of Paddock's life back to high school in Los Angeles and earlier and his recent prescriptions for Valium

1:04:49 We are looking at every aspect from birth to death of this suspect in this case. In the final days before the shooting, officials tell ABC News Paddock was seen in the company of prostitutes and went gambling in the Mandalay Bay Casino winning big jackpots on both Friday and Saturday nights And Brian back with us tonight. And Brian, you were telling us that Steven Paddock called himself a professional gambler and your learning just how much he made in one year alone? Yes David in the year 2015 He reported income of five million dollars. Five million. And no move. That's right. Thanks I hope At any moment I'm expecting to say and he was a day trader. That would be just make it complete You know. How do you mix 5 million playing video poker? Nah don't think so

1:05:34 That would explain the moaning and groaning. Yeah, he's got tendonitis in his right hand. Oh man... Well this guy is just being set up And I mean, what guy? You know he's up. He makes lots of money all this stuff is going on Somebody murdered him and then shot up the place Yeah They had some fun with the whities down there at their concert Well even though you think it not gonna be that big I really think there's going to be a lot of legislation that's going to be introduced This is going to be used over and over again Concerts? Forget about it! There were people selling their tickets

1:06:13 This two weekends, this weekend and next weekend is Austin City Limits Live. Which a big concert you know Jay-Z was here third Friday night I think yeah it's a big deal in Zilker Park and people like they were selling their tickets didn't want to go anymore they were afraid. Oh the public is pathetic yes And with that... Well wait no before we do that since you brought this up but I wanted tease it I do want to play what i think where this is headed. You think it's going to be hit all kinds of legislation, I think there's more along the lines of that this very strong attempt to pass and they're using it as a way to get to don't let a good disaster or tragedy go to waste.

1:07:01 I think the direction, the way they're going to milk this one is going to be this clip which is... Australia? Domestic terrorism trick. Oh sorry. No, Australia later. Okay. The massacre is not being called terrorism and some say it's time to change the law. Jim Axelrod has more on that. Nice! We just brought this up the other day so great This week we've seen a nation can be terrified without the cause necessarily labeled terrorism. It is time for a variety of reasons to have a domestic terrorism criminal statute. Currently there's a criminal statute for international terrorism but not domestic. Former federal prosecutor Mary McCord thinks in an era of mass casualties it's time that changed. Violent extremism isn't limited to Islamist extremism or extremism that's done on behalf

1:07:53 at the direction of a foreign terrorist organization. With no specific penalties on the books for domestic terrorism, mass killers like Timothy McVeigh face charges of using a weapon of mass destruction or Dylan Roof who faced murder and weapons charges But the label domestic terrorism makes the motive clear, says McCord now at Georgetown Law in a way that sharpens our response. It shows the significance of this type of crime and why it's important for it to be looked at and treated for what is which is terrorism. It's a crime done for the very purpose of terrorizing people

1:08:32 Federal domestic terror law would also mean FBI-led investigations and the creation of deeper, wider databases to keep track of mass violence. Of course there is a potential problem labeling domestic hate groups as terrorists like Al Qaeda or ISIS raises constitutional questions. That starts to get very close to the line of potentially infringing on free speech, freedom to associate and express one's views however abhorrent they may be to others within the population During the Obama administration, The Justice Department considered creating a domestic terrorism statute We asked the Trump DOJ if it is continuing the work A spokesman declined comment Jim Axelrod thanks Jim A question for you

1:09:18 Isn't this exactly what I was saying? You just proved it. Here comes laws! Yeah, but... yeah, I did prove it but I think what I was proving is the thing you said last show Which is the type of law I mean when you say here comes laws? I think immediately after a big shooting the first thing you think of anti-gun laws, okay. I see what you're saying Yeah And I don't see any anti gun laws coming down in any pike no and in fact There's a pro gun piece that was done on one of these network news shows that I thought was kind of oh there were several even The Washington Post had a you know a piece that said removing guns doesn't change anything No laws will help

1:08:32 Federal domestic terror law would also mean FBI-led investigations and the creation of deeper, wider databases to keep track of mass violence. Of course there is a potential problem labeling domestic hate groups as terrorists like Al Qaeda or ISIS raises constitutional questions. That starts to get very close to the line of potentially infringing on free speech, freedom to associate and express one's views however abhorrent they may be to others within the population During the Obama administration, The Justice Department considered creating a domestic terrorism statute We asked the Trump DOJ if it is continuing the work A spokesman declined comment Jim Axelrod thanks Jim A question for you

1:09:18 Isn't this exactly what I was saying? You just proved it. Here comes laws! Yeah, but... yeah, I did prove it but I think what I was proving is the thing you said last show Which is the type of law I mean when you say here comes laws? I think immediately after a big shooting the first thing you think of anti-gun laws, okay. I see what you're saying Yeah And I don't see any anti gun laws coming down in any pike no and in fact There's a pro gun piece that was done on one of these network news shows that I thought was kind of oh there were several even The Washington Post had a you know a piece that said removing guns doesn't change anything No laws will help

1:10:00 But I'm happy that at least we're going to, because we've already been doing it let's at least redefine the word terrorism so that we all agree on it. Which is just gonna be something new Yeah, but the problem of course is they mention Timothy McVeigh. They mentioned this guy and that guy and they mentioned all these different guys... White guys? And who've all been either always guys white men and they've already either been hung or they're going to be hung or they're gonna be in jail for the rest their lives In other words The report is flawed in that it that the laws on the books

1:10:36 have already taken care of these problems. It's not as though people are getting away with terrorism and shooting up the place, and the guy in Vegas is dead if it was him. So the point is they're trying to redefine terrorism...and we had the definition which I think was legitimate and taking the political aspect out of it. Yes, yes. Or you terrorize somebody that bullying is terrorism then all of a sudden? Yeah yeah yeah any sort of screaming at somebody is terrorism yelling at your wife is terrorist angry face bag post terrorism

1:11:13 Well, there you go. That would be a good idea now but you have all this nonsense and then they also bring in the police state aspect of this is just a continuation of furtherance of the police state that we already have because the laws have done a fine job at taking care of these situations and there's no reason well with this woman she goes on with her argument that it's good to know that this is terrorism. Well, it's not really terrorism by the real definition and people have been punished so what more do you want? I mean you don't think we have enough laws that pile on some poor guy who jaywalks but they say there are a million other laws

1:11:55 Stepped off the curb with the wrong foot. He didn't pay attention to the lights You know so you nailed you put down 30 charges against some jaywalk, so you can you know? Make him changes your do a plea deal well We'll drop 20 of these charges And we'll just give you this charge in a suspended sentence if he'd give us some money It's a corrupt system this woman is not helping No But once you change the basic definition, as you already said. Once you change the basic definition of terrorism then there's lots of terrorism related laws on the books Yeah if it just has anything to do with terrorizing somebody a bully is a terrorist by this definition in a school Exactly and then you get into some fun stuff Oh yeah well it's always going to be fun stuff with these creeps running things

1:12:51 Well, we are here to protect everyone's sanity. Mainly our own! Man and with that yeah, I would like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to John C. You and a c stands for Could be a patsy Dvorak In the morning to you mr.. Adam curry in the morning to all ships that see boots on the ground feet in the air And subs in the water yes names of nights out there in the morning everybody in the chatroom know agenda stream calm A little more signal-to-noise ratio would be appreciated And in the morning to Martin JJ, who once again came through with a fabulous piece of art. It was the iconic Welcome to Las Vegas sign which had welcome to Fabulous No Agenda Kareem Dvorak was well done fit perfectly didn't have too much blood and gore it's just had you know it was just right we felt. Yeah and it had zip

1:13:50 But in a zip it had zip. Yes, we appreciate that Martin JJ and all of our artists who upload diligently Sometimes during the show to know agenda art generator comm when we pick the art from every week Thank you so much every show I should say Now in our value for value model I felt little jip this week because I know You and I both were really hard watched a lot of bulk I watched so much C-SPAN which have a report on later that You know, the value for value works two ways I guess is what i'm trying to say. Well, I think it's a message they don't... The public did not like our group, our public which is tens of thousands at minimum yeah did not like our report on the Vegas thing uh they didn't like what we had to say I guess because we got almost no donations We got like 35 people total that donated about $50 and only 2 executive associate executive producers

1:14:43 And that to me says that I think that was an indication that we maybe shouldn't go in so deep on some of these things. Let them just suffer with network analysis, let's talk about our two or one executive producer and our one associate executive producer. And I'm going to start backwards. I'm gonna start with the associate executive producer Gerald Lyons Who says, will send email from hashtag dadbod at something.com for show on 10-8 2017 I have no such mail from that email address From anyone named Gerald or anyone named Lyons Well...uhh..I think i do have the hashtag Yes I do But I have his email It's not his name Maybe he doesn't want his name to be known Well it's on here and he never said anything about anonymous unless its in that note which is dumb

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1:16:28 So I can give him that. What do you want here again? Deducing jobs, Karma and I'll do a MILF thing. That's one mother I'd like to f***. Jobs! Jobs! Jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. Okay, so we have and that's he's $200. He's our associate executive producer Richard bangs is three hundred dollars and he's the executive producing sent in a long email which has For your information njnk nice don't think you'd want to dig up anything. He does say that Cancer Karma worked Oh mom just beat breast cancer all right

1:17:14 Nice all right, so here's now. I can't read this whole note because a lot of it just random ramblings about wine I'm a couple shows behind so but you've been putting out You've been putting out fires on one of the good he's got a little icon a little emoji I wanted the good Millennials 8 1983 birthday So why keep it and he's gonna keep it 100% He's got another 100 percent emoji yeah I love bragging that i produce a podcast, which is you do. I always use this throwaway well that's not true it's technically the best podcast in the universe! The other millennials I contend even the majority of good millennials are douches as well

1:17:57 that they get so jealous of him. Living in DC is crazy, people are the biggest dicks as neighbors yet some looney tune goes nuts and all of a sudden there are all kinds of anti-Trump anti freedom signage including love Trump's hate ban assault weapons everyone is welcome no more Sandy Hook. Oh you know what since we're on the topic But I have a short clip Regarding that because he brought it because he brought it up. We didn't bring it up He brought it up the it's a recording in a UNLV class Where the teacher blames Trump for the shooting you want to hear that oh? Yes, I did a lot of work on the filtering It still you just got to just kind of focus on somebody's record off their phone or something course Yeah, yeah, I really tried to get it here and see if it works

1:18:47 And words especially are coming from someone with hematopoietic syndrome. When he got elected, I told my class this three semesters ago... Can you hear it at all? I could hear a joke. You play it a little longer and then I'll cut off the audio. It's only 20 more seconds so... Some of us won't be affected by this presidency but others are going to die. Other people will die because of it and we've seen this happen right I mean, I don't know that these events would have been evidently. No, I don't think you can hear it. Well, I heard that a lot of people are going to die because of this president. Yeah so she had said at the beginning of the year when Trump was elected some people will die because of this president and what she says is... And you can see in the video it has the subtitles and she says well there you go because he incited violence some people take it to heart So this is what happens and its Trump's fault

1:19:47 And that's in class. That's in class! Yeah, yeah that's what goes on welcome to the education system of the United States Anyway, he goes on and says no more Sandy Hook. They think that there's some social justice warrior. He is some social justice pick up your dog shit! Making a comment about they talk big game but they won't pick up the dog crap You don't have to read this if you don't want too however I bet a few listeners would be interested Now, John you suck at reading these notes. So I'm calling in Adam to get this done for me." What? I don't know. My dilemma by no means well off. I'd like to spend some money on good wine now he goes into a wine discussion and I'm going to point something out that I think...I don't think of lot of people are too aware of the his wife doesn't drink and he wants to have some wine once in awhile and needs some recommendations for $300 cases

1:20:47 When I recommend a wine on this show or any place else, or in a column, or usually a tweet. This wine is not gonna be around long and they don't make more of it. Some people for some reason think of wine as a commodity so you go out and you buy this wine and you like it, so you go buy some more. And you decide for the rest of your life that you're going to buy this wine." I can assure you that this wine is available once especially Bordeaux's good wines in fact good California ones are the same way a 2012 L'Eau de Villescaz comes out they make X amount of it they ship it out it gets bought up as done now something else it's a different year it's a different wine

1:21:30 And for some reason, a lot of people and I believe Richard here is one of them who actually believes that or thinks it's possible because he says...I recommend him Las Vascos Grand Reserve 2012. As one does, of course. Well that was really tasty wine And I think it was at Costco. And it would be at Costco for about two weeks, and then it would sell out and then there'd be something else because these wines are all limited production. They make them once, it's called a vintage, and they make a pile of wine then they ship it out and then they make a new pile of wine. So you have to move fast is what I'm saying. Well, it is a little known fact but I learned this Friday evening the keeper and I had dinner with Sir Gene here in Austin

1:22:18 And he says, you know I send text messages to John and emails all the time and never get an answer But I found out if you send him a message and include a picture of a bottle of wine. You get in them immediate response Yes, he sent he's showing off He sent me a picture of a bottle of Chateau Montrose 2008 you had a classic response Yeah, I told him he's drinking it too young. I think that is sad. I hate to say it but you should have had this in two years from now big mistake loser! I think that's what you said? I did not say big mistake loser But I did tell them that it was...I almost sent him a picture back of another bottle of Montrose which I had just recently had which was the 2004 was absolutely fantastic hmm but

1:23:08 He did comment back one more time saying, yeah the wine was probably not ready to drink. That's a problem with some of these high-end Bordeaux wines and that's not a cheap wine right? That's he's like just big spender to be buying Montrose at our restaurant So I wouldn't do it anyway so that said anyway this is our two guys we get the two guys had thought this you know would felt that they could invest in this show and that's all we got. So I want to thank those two for producing this show. Yes, thank them profusely and there will be more people to thank but not a lot coming in at $50 or more in our second donation segment. And we take your message to heart so we understand what you're saying. We do have a show coming up on Thursday! Devorac.org slash N-A. I promise you we will do the best

1:23:57 And you do the same, propagating the formula. Our formula is this... We go out we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, Ray! I did want to mention You know a couple weeks ago i got all jacked up about IMAX because we have this Bullock Museum in Austin where they have a small theater, only 200 people I think. Beautiful great sound just fantastic the people are rarely there it wasn't even full never is completely full they used to not serve any beverages or food now they only serve soft drinks and popcorn and no alcohol so people don't want to go there

1:24:48 Really? Yes, yes really. Not that many theaters I ever go to this serve booze well we in Austin it's you know Alamo Draft House it's really culture here to eat and drink during the you know yeah it's just set up that way it's a restaurant in a movie theater Yeah, we have one place like that in El Cerrito called the El Cerrito and it looks like a little... It's a new theater. And it's very small it seems but when you go in there, it's all tables! Yeah yeah right so this is just a regular old movie theatre but its IMAX and it's just the way you want to be whenever the camera tilts You really feel like you're going along with it now So I'm all jacked up because we saw Kingsman they're like ah

1:25:30 One of my favorite movies that I remember as a kid, it's now more than 30 years ago was Blade Runner. Ah! Let's go see Blade Runner Okay yeah and this is our big Saturday night you know the woo because i gotta do prep so we're gonna have a great time Before the movie, and they also have no ads or anything and no previews which is nice because it's a museum. I guess they don't have to make profit that way And they show pieces of the old Blade Runner, and I'm sitting there as Tina saying you didn't see it But you know It's kind of good cuz I guess it was kinda boring yeah, maybe kinda sucked Maybe? I dunno Then then the new blade runner comes on The A- like almost a three hour movie John! I wanted to shoot myself This is the worst piece of crap I've ever seen

1:26:13 Why? People are raving about it. Oh, it's shit! It's so slow! Here is some dialogue I am Ryan Gosling Hello How are you That's it! Harrison Ford doesn't show up for almost two hours Ugh Now, it was... Did they do the director's cut or something? Like someone did- If you could have made this an hour and a half movie then it would've been pretty good. Because I'd be falling asleep all of sudden, oh! Action! Oh okay there is some action. And then it goes back to slow big dramatic music Just dumb! Dumb dumb dumb

1:26:58 Now you got me, my curiosity peaked. Go for it! Or tweaked let's take a look I was gonna do this... I hated it I really did I think we've all gotten I know you're using that word a lot We've all gotten the impression It'd be nice if I had my keyboard No there is is I may repeat my words but at least I know where my keyboard is Yeah well they don't have on the desk and set up in a funny way here You don't say So lets go to rotten tomatoes Okay We didn't get some clips from the film. Dude, we don't have enough time for those clips they take eight minutes for one scene! For one guy to say hi...

1:27:41 Blade Runner got a Blade Runner 2049 which is always the mistake. Yeah, yeah Got an 89% Which means you get the special best tomato award From the from the experts and the audience gave it in 84 that means they liked it yes lots cheese All right, it was like you were either in a bad mood No no not at all these people are all got their heads up to bite You know what it reminded me of Lord of the Rings another movie. I didn't like ah So that's probably my mistake or maybe they're just supposed to like it boy I liked it cuz that's the right thing to say I don't know

1:28:21 Personally could be did you go see Kingsman? Yeah, just said that yes. I love King like you stole You just said you went to see belated runner. Oh no, no We talked about Kingsman two weeks ago. I want you I know but not when I had tomatoes open what'd you think oh I told you, i thought it was one of the best movies have seen. I loved that It was fantastic and you like to... You saw didn't you? I saw the original, haven't see this one. Oh! You love The Kingsman Okay Don't condemn me for asking the same question twice when I have tomatoes open 50% it got a tomato splat I'm out of whack Critics wait but they give away and always look for this by the way if I see the low number from the critics in them 71 percent liked

1:29:06 audience, which means it's good. I always think that's a good sign just my opinion of things when the critics are mixed and then the audience loves it is usually entertaining. It's probably got some flaws but it's entertaining still lower though than Blade Runner. There you go. What do I know? I'm gonna have to go see both these movies and give my opinion Okay, I don't like slow-moving movies now so yeah, I can watch long Yeah, it was like what is this some cinema top cinematography cinema cinematog Cinematographic thank you cinema graphic Marvel or something no wasn't all that great. Yeah well not that great It's okay. It was okay the sets were easy You know a bunch of sand

1:29:54 Everywhere. How about this? Maybe the movie- And a lot of advertising in the movie Sony, Seiko, Peugeot just tons of placement everywhere Yeah Is it possible that people were liking this movie because it was nostalgic and they never did other movies didn't resolve completely Could be yeah could be there was definitely resolution Yeah I saw the original blade with Rudger Howard Dutch guy you know I thought I liked it me it doesn't matter Here's the space movie that I'm looking for. Pence announced this... It is my great honor to be with you today- This White House video, they did a great job here! It is my great honor to be with you today here at the inaugural meeting of the reconstituted National Space Council In his inaugural address, the president rededicated America once again to lead in the heavens and in his words to unlock the mysteries of space

1:30:50 To guide this new era of American space leadership, President Trump relaunched the National Space Council. And it is my great honor to have the opportunity to serve as its chair at the first meeting in nearly a quarter century Under President Trump's leadership and with the guidance of this National Space Council, the United States will usher in a new era of space leadership that will benefit every facet of our national life. It will strengthen our economy as we unlock new opportunities, new technologies and new sources of prosperity. We'll inspire our children to seek education in science technology engineering and math. Will enhance our defense and advance the security of our citizens but most of all

1:31:27 We will renew the American spirit itself and rekindle our belief in America to accomplish anything. To boldly go where no man has gone before." This is a space council! It's like, like we're blasting off. We're going to change the world. Why are the nerd boys not loving this? Cause they were on sea hats from Trump. He does no good. So they don't like it. You think I'm just gonna, I don't want to belabor the point looking at some of the reviews of the blade runner. I'm going to read two of them too and tell me if you agree with either one. These are negative reviews

1:32:11 One from the Christian Science Monitor and the guy says Blade Runner 2049 is heavy with portentous and pretentious hoo-ha. Hoo ha! The other one says though, the film dazzles us with its haunting beautiful images it disappoints with its lack of substance Yeah that would be yeah It's slow...it's just slow That's bottom line Anyone say slow? Nah maybe I'm not gonna read all three of you Hey Okay Uh, but I have a little package. You see? That's what people have been saying! Man...I swung both doors open on that one didn't i? Damnit!

1:32:59 Friday, remarkably the Senate Intelligence Committee gave us an update which was not really... was not really shown on here. I'm stunned that you got this because I watched this and said holy crap these guys are jerks! Yeah yeah well and i kind of got it from two different takes on it So they gave an update on their Russia collusion investigation, and I was first alerted to it. But I saw it come through on C-SPAN the audio is really great to hear but then I heard this NPR report which have

1:33:35 I'm just gonna play this because yeah, it kind of represents what they said in their update on a Friday. Who does an update on a Friday? Especially an update on a Friday when the news is- the cycle is still 100% Las Vegas The only people who would do that are people who have nothing to say or something they don't want anyone to really hear Here's NPR's version of the report. Since it opened its investigation in January, the committee has been trying to uncover and understand Russia's influence operation. I just want to say January! That is now our 10th month of this investigation One of the key questions? Did the Trump campaign coordinate with Russia on

1:34:14 On that, the committee's Republican chairman Senator Richard Burr would only offer this. The committee continues to look into all evidence to see if there was any hint of collusion Now I'm not going even discuss initial findings because we haven't any. Burr did say however that the committee agrees with the report that US intelligence agencies released in January accusing Russia of interfering in the election He also offered a big-picture view of Moscow's capabilities and the threat they pose to future American elections. And I recommend that every campaign and every election official take this very seriously as we move into this November's election, and as we move into preparation for the 2018 elections. Standing next to Burr in a packed Senate press conference, the committee's top Democrat Senator Mark Warner zeroed-in on social media companies like Facebook and Twitter.

1:35:14 The companies have faced intense public scrutiny in recent weeks over Russia's use of their platforms to influence Americans, particularly on divisive topics like race and immigration. I was concerned at first that some of these social media platform companies did not take this threat seriously enough I believe they are recognizing that threat now. Facebook handed over copies of 3,000 Russia-linked ads to the committee this week and Warner said the social media giants are generally cooperating with the inquiry. Investigators want to determine who paid for those ads and other ads and whether they targeted certain states or regions

1:35:50 They also want to find out whether Russian bots artificially amplified political conversations on Twitter. The committee has invited Twitter, Facebook and Google to an open hearing early next month." Now it won't surprise you that this report is disingenuous... It also omits a lot of details that I think the public likes to know, is interested in. The only reason why they don't put that in there...I guess because they don't have enough time to do it? They don't want to do it! Oh okay, so that would be it. So I pulled a number of clips and thought it was quite interesting but above all they really have nothing. We have two Senators Warner and

1:36:36 Burr and they're doing the press conference, and I really took most of the stuff from the question-and-answer session. The Russians use social media platforms that increasingly the vast majority of us turn to for information for news in a way that is very different if you look For example in the realm of political advertising We've seen a over 700% increase in the use of digital political advertising between 2012 and 2016. The expectation is that may double or triple again, uh, in terms of the next election cycle because of the ability to so target voters. Um... I was concerned at first that some of these social media platform companies did not take this threat seriously enough

1:37:31 I believe they are recognizing that threat now. They've provided us with information, we think it's important Three companies that we've invited, Google Twitter and Facebook will appear in a public hearing so that Americans can again hear both about how we're going to protect I would argue three areas. One making sure that if you see an ad it appears on social media site then Americans can know whether the source of that ad was generated by foreign entities

1:38:12 to make sure that if you see a story that is trending and becoming more popular, whether that trending is because a series of Americans are liking that story or liking that particular page. whether that's generated by real individuals or whether that is generated by bots, or in some cases it may be false identity falsely identified accounts. For example Facebook has indicated between 30 and 50 thousand such accounts were taken down in France due to Russian interference. And third just a motion

1:38:51 Both of us have been in politics a long time. If you have somebody running an ad for you, against you, be able to go down and take at least a look at that content the same way that if ads are run for or against you on TV, radio, or newsprint. You can at least get a look of that content." Notice his use of the word where he says if ads are being run against you so this 10 months now of investigating If there was collusion between as the NPR report said in the beginning There was collusion between The Trump campaign and The Russians is not even discussed anymore. Now we're talking about the hacking of the election and what that is, how it was done and what it means and what we're going to do about it. And every almost every answer as we've accurately predicted, it's about the upcoming election. That's why they are afraid. I think they are afraid of something that they truly are afraid of but has nothing to do with Russia colluding

1:39:50 the ads. We want to see these ads, wouldn't it be great if we saw these? Well here this brings up the point as this report of yours triggered immediately in me is why can't we see that 3,000 ads on Facebook posted? I'm glad you asked that question! Where are they? I mean I posted a bunch in the newsletter but what 20 Here's the answer. This question was posed by one of the journos. Let me just say that many of you have asked us are we going to release the Facebook ads? We don't release documents provided to our committee, period. Oh. Let me say it again. The Senate Intelligence Committee does not release documents provided by witnesses companies whoever they whatever the classification it's not a practice that we're gonna get into

1:40:40 Clearly, if any of the social media platforms would like to do that we're fine with them doing it because we've already got scheduled an open hearing because we believe the American people deserve to hear firsthand. And just to remind people on October 25th we will have another open hearing number 12 with Michael Cohen On November 1st, we have invited the social media companies that Mark mentioned to be our guests at an open hearing. And we feel confident that they will take us up on it." So this is... was rather interesting to me The social media companies are free to release that at will Well why don't we ask them to release them already? Where are their journos?

1:41:28 They should be hounding them. Yes, but they are not so they're not going to release them that's not what they do then release any documents but back to the investigation I don't believe that by the way if that never released documents could be i didn't i did not check it The journos or can I keep saying journals is that dumb? You know, it's a word that they've used amongst themselves. That's why I don't like it personally. I think it's insulting. Yes. So since this insulting you might may go ahead and thank you. Thank you meeting adjourned the journos are told all they'll give a shit crap about anything they don't care about the elections who does what their collusion? How about the steel dossier with the hookers peeing on the bed? The Obama slept in as it relates to the steel dossier

1:42:17 Unfortunately, the committee has hit a wall. We have on several occasions made attempts to contact Mr Steele to meet with Mr Steele to include personally the vice chairman and myself as two individuals making that connection those offers have gone unaccepted The committee cannot really decide the credibility of the dossier without understanding things like who paid for it, who were your sources and subsources. We're investigating a very expansive Russian network of interference in US elections. And though we have been incredibly enlightened at our ability to rebuild backwards the Steele dossier up to a certain date

1:43:11 getting past that point has been somewhat impossible. And I say this because I don't think we're going to find any intelligence products that unlock that key to pre-June of 16th. My hope is that Mr. Steele will make a decision to meet with either Mark and I or the committee, so that we can hear his side of it, versus for us to depict in our findings what his intent or what his actions were. And I say that uh-to you but i also say it to Chris Steele." How interesting is that? This report and the-the-the-everyone oh yeah-blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

1:44:02 to back up his own work. This is bogus, that's why! But this is great... Why isn't this being reported? I think the Steele dossier of importance people want to know. It was reported on it originally doing corn that guy who works for Mother Jones you know rolled it out and- Yeah no I know but why exactly? Why are they not reporting that it's not going anywhere because the guy won't even back it up? Well I can see them, it's old news maybe. They don't want to. They're going to do open hearings and potential witnesses that we might ask to come in the future

1:44:39 I strongly suggest that you come in and speak with us. If we believe that you have something valuable to bring to the committee, if you don't voluntarily do it, I will assure you today... You will be compelled to do it. I can compel you to come, but I can't compel you to talk." We have ways of making you talk! I hear one of these things, the funny thing is they said they're going to get Twitter and Google. So who are they gonna get? The way these companies operate, I think Google's perfected this because they hate any kind of... Oversight! They don't like any oversight. They're gonna send it, I don't know if all of them will by now, Google and probably Facebook but Google for sure will send some

1:45:26 Stooge yeah with a really fancy title who knows nothing Yeah, and they'll be up there trying to well You know the way the company operates we we don't want to do evil And you're just saying blathering crap this meaningless. This will be great it would be no It's October 25th I've written it down. I'm very excited about this meeting oh Then but notice how notice. How will be larry page now put it down, but notice how they say we have is of making you talk Mr.. Steel and then its weave what we've invited them We hope they come to our little party with invited silly yeah, Deb big suck off

1:46:07 And this point is very clear, the journos they want to know about collusion and these guys their direction is already determined. They're about the 2018 election and what regulations they can put on facebag ads. Yeah what restrictions... Yes yes! He makes the point, he says we're going to make it clear that if there's a foreign entity doing the advertising. As soon as you said that I'm thinking oh okay so when Volkswagen advertises or Toyota advertises... Trying to influence the American public into buying cars that are bad for the environment? When they advertise is gonna have to make it very clear it's a foreign entity yeah this and here's the counter argument to this to me

1:46:53 Facebook is not a United States product. It is an international product that appeals to everybody around the world, they got way more users, they got billions! We don't have that many people in the country most Facebook users are outside of the country and the same thing with Twitter just to a lesser extent Although Facebook still has to answer the accusation that they are saying their ads reach I think it was like 100 million more 18 to 34 year olds than are actually in America. Anyway, back to the ads so and again these is Burr and Warner they're only interested in how can we make sure that if we're gonna have crappy ass ads against our people in the upcoming election that we know about it in advance

1:47:42 Because that's what they're saying. So we can counter? Yes! I think if you look from 10,000 feet the subject matter of the ads seems to have been to create chaos in every group that they could possibly identify in America from a standpoint of any involvement. Let us have the opportunity to have these folks in, ask them the questions—in many cases they didn't even take advantage of some of the most technical targeting tools that exist within those social platforms... I'm sorry? What happened to Cambridge Analytica and all this Trump had the best data team and they didn't even take advance of advantage of buying

1:48:25 of using the tools that Facebag and Google provide? Hmm. I believe and i think we will see that there will be more forensics done by these companies. Forensic? When we just look at scale, France versus the United States for example on one of the platforms Facebook in terms of what happened uh...I think they've got some more work to do and I'm pleased to say I think they are out doing that work now That's Warner again! The same guy he is just sucking up to them you know just sucking up to him Juror knows go back well how about this

1:49:03 Was there collusion between the Trump campaign and the advertisers? Are you pursuing of whether there's a link between the ads that appeared on social media sites and the Trump campaign Well, let me just say that I'll let Mark address it if he'd like to If there was any connection that would be pertinent to our investigation of Russia's influence in the elections We have had incredible access and cooperation by those social media companies that have been in. Some of them have been interviewed twice, at the end of the day we'll be prepared to ask the right questions that may answer some of your questions at that open hearing. But we also have to get back- We have to get the universe first I was concerned on the front end with the first pass

1:50:05 was not a thorough enough pass. For example, I cited the fact that one entity did...the only ads that were produced for those that were paid for in rubles obviously there are various forms of payment so i think the companies are increasingly understanding their actions need to match their public statements that they realize how important it is to maintain the integrity of our democratic process. I gotta tell you, I think Zuckerberg might show up himself he might come to the hearing himself He's the only guy that can spin this story in the right way and throw out some technical jumbo Well this is...I know exactly what your saying and I think your probably right

1:50:52 But I would bet money and i'll do it right now. Okay, five bucks It is do you want to say? Do you want to give a name? I'll let So we can't give a name who's going to go up there because he's gonna be someone i've never heard of okay But it's not gonna be zuckerberg He's gonna get taught he might even think the way you're thinking that he'd be great up there Yeah And then he's gonna have his lawyer and everybody at Facebook is too much risk, and they'll talk him out of it so you'll never hear from him. It won't be Zuckerberg and you're gonna owe me five bucks at the end of the day." Alright, alright write it down, write it down. What did these ads DO? That question was answered.

1:51:44 So can you definitively look at the American public, Senator Byrd and say that the election was not influenced in any way by this massive Russian operation? Well let me take issue with your premise of your question. Neither Mark or I said there was a campaign targeted against one We're looking at both campaigns Well that's what the ICA is then The ICA did not look at collusion of the campaigns. The ICA looked at Russian, let me finish, Russian involvement in the election process we're in agreement with that We have not come to any determination on collusion or Russia's preferences. If we use solely the social media advertising that we have seen, there is no way you can look at that and say that was to help the right side of ideological charge and not the left or vice versa

1:52:40 They were indiscriminate. One of the things that's most challenging to this investigation is, with the exception of certain pieces that have already been discussed... it seems that the overall theme of the Russian involvement in U.S elections was create chaos at every level and I would tell you the fact we're sitting here nine months later investigating it they have been pretty darn successful. Yeah, yes. Thanks to you and the mainstream media you douchebags! Yes they've been very very successful We finally got a little bit of interesting information about the people they've been interviewing from the

1:53:22 Trump campaign, when you hear how open it's been. It's also a little creepy. We're very much in an exploratory mode trying to piece together what people did where they were who they talked to In most cases we have accessed email records text messages phone records They hear what he says in most cases we accessed email messages, text messages phone calls because that's how easy it is. You don't have to go tapping anybody just call the NSA and say we want this this and there it is in most cases we have accessed email records text messages phone records voluntarily

1:53:59 Usually when you get something like that voluntarily, somebody's probably going to tell you the truth when they answer the questions. But the reason that we can't definitively answer some of your questions today is We will take everything our staff has put into transcripts and test it against every piece of intelligence and other interviews that we've done So at this point, they're the end. The journos are disgusted They got nothing Guy throws out well you know how about the Jared man? Jared meeting that was all collusion wasn't it? Is the Russian attorney going to come through? The Russian attorney met with Don Trump Jr and she's offered to come in open committee Have you reached out to her or is she one of 25 on your list? How do we know I haven't already? I didn't say you did

1:54:45 Oh, I'm sorry. That was in the clip. He says how do you know we didn't already talk to her douchebag? Yeah, nice one. So they have absolutely nothing but what they've discovered is oh my gosh people use Facebook to influence people's ideas and opinions which is the nature of advertising And all they are is freaked out about the upcoming midterm elections They want to be able to see what the Opposition is doing on face bag. They're afraid that they have some magic sauce thing They know how to do it whether it was Russia or not And they don't care about the election They only care about the upcoming election and this you I think if stumbled onto something well Here's that here is the the this is the crescendo conclusion? and it was it was kind of said in the press conference, but I'd rather play this bit from NPR senator Klobuchar and

1:55:42 Who is I think she's Amy. I think she may be on the Intelligence Committee She wraps it all up and explains what is going to happen now? Well, thanks David It's great to be on such a serious issue right now when you think that 2018 election is only 397 days away But you think about our whole democracy is formed on this simple idea that we want to be self-governing, right? And it... We didn't want to have foreign governments influencing us. Well now we've learned that $100,000 was spent in rubles for

1:56:18 ads during the 2016 election. And we haven't seen those ads, we really want to see them, the public does intelligence officials have seen them but we think they should be released to the public and what our bill does Senator Warner and I are working on this together and Democratic colleague Mark Warner yeah exactly so what it does and were looking at different threshold that are actually lower than the one you gave but what it says is when these things happen You've got to register them, you have to put them out publicly when you buy a political ad. No this is not about people posting cat videos if the cat talks about Donald Trump or... Citizens! Don't worry about it. You can still post how much you hate the president and how much you love your cat don't worry citizens just look over there

1:57:03 In cat videos if the cat talks about Donald Trump or Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi You're not worried about the cat video. No what this is about paid political advertising just like broadcast or radio has so if I buy as a campaign a TV ad Or I buy a radio ad then it has to be publicly registered when the ad aired who? Who bought it? How much they bought. I don't mean to interrupt you, but I'm really glad you brought up broadcasters because are you basically saying that Facebook should be treated like a Broadcaster is that where we are? They should be treated that way for paid ads right? Right! Not for just content people posting not for news But for paid ads You know what i'm gonna do a video

1:57:50 In a catsuit you just do all your political stuff in cat suit videos. That's the way to do it I wonder if you're worried at all that this is a slippery slope no start regulating parts of The internet, I mean the Internet and freedom of the internet is it feels so democratic in many ways The internet feels so democratic John in many ways don't you agree? It just feels some lusciously Democratic This is not gonna fly, but go on. The internet I mean the internet and freedom of the Internet it feels so democratic in many ways Yeah that's what...I was just waiting for that question because of course we are not regulating news postings We're not regulating when you post your kid's birthday party or you decide you're mad about on the energy policy about the Trump administration and you do a video yourself And you put it up none of that will be regulated these are paid

1:58:44 ads paid and just like we see on tv when you see the disclaimer i paid for this message that's what we're talking about paid ads but there are one point four billion a lot of things you see on face book or twitter or google that maybe you don't think our pain they are paid at And I think that people have a right to know when we have elections, where so much dark money is being spent undercover. That we have the right to know what's being spent and we as citizens have the right to know that were not being duped. Did you say...I want make sure i understand you correctly..Did you say some of this financial burden for paying for this new enforcement would be coming from companies? Well of course they are going to have too. Of course! You know I come from the state of Target if they can find one shoe in home. Minnesota we should say

1:59:29 OK, if they can find because of a SKU number some shoe that's in Hawaii. You know I think that these guys who are able in other elections in Germany to not have political ads they have to...that because of their law in Germany that say you can't have Nazi political ads right? They are able too in the French election because they have different laws go through and make sure that certain things that violate the law aren't on there. They're able to do this in other countries why in the own country that they're based in can't they do this. To me, with all of the technology and all of the brilliance we have at these companies, they can do this. They can make sure that paid political ads which is a subsection of the postings they have, um...that they don't violate our law and all there were asking them to do is register those political ads. Yeah? You said it's not gonna fly? Oh no! No way its going to fly

2:00:22 Couple reasons one of course is the broadcasters aren't gonna put up with it because it's too much work You got to register these ads you gotta put the date and time you ran them some of these things are just run as you know As needed fillers yeah, you got some time into your 3 in the morning. Yeah Algos do that And so you end up with like a lot of paperwork that you don't need and then you have to decide whether It's a political ad or not a political at is if you if you're bitching about slow times on the BART stations and in the Bay Area, and you want them to put more cars in place. You put an ad out? Is that a political ad?" And if it's not a political ad... If it isn't, then you have to go through a hassle which nobody is going to put up with so there will be a lot of pushback by the networks and they don't put up with a lot of stuff

2:01:09 The other thing is, if it is a political ad or let's just say that not a political ad. No, it's not a political ad. It's just an ad about the local problems with all the ads that ran on Facebook were from Secure Borders this company, this bogus company Secure Borders those ads weren't about who to vote for? They're all about building the wall. Yeah, build the wall! So it's like, you know this is a nightmare. It's not gonna happen These guys are so horny about this and then they keep bringing up the ludicrous part Oh! They spent $100,000 A whole hundred thousand that twisted the election Let's... Here's what I was going to say earlier And here's what i think the problem is

2:01:54 It's a funny problem and you'll get the kick out of it too. I believe that this entire intelligence committee, intelligence being the operative word actually thinks That social media is a better way to sell things and it actually works. Yes, yes! Because you're kind of buying it. Yes that's why they want to control it because they think they... It works your ads... Oh my god $100,000 turned the election as if those ads did anything I think they look down there kind of funny I think you nailed it. That's exactly like, holy crap! My war chest for this election is a million that's ten times what the Russians spent on throwing it to Trump. Come in! Come and shoot in! Now with this unbelievable stupidity... What this has now is the naivety they've actually bought the Silicon Valley arguments well about targets. I think you will love this next bit

2:02:57 Because we have a term now, and this term is MADCOM. Have you heard of this acronym yet? Madcom? I have heard it but i don't know the reference. Machine Driven Communications Oh, I don't know. No, I don't know this. Now the Atlantic Council is pushing this. The Atlantic Council is big. Correct me if I'm wrong but they influence a lot of policy? That's what they're for. Yes one of the biggest drinking clubs. Right well they have put out a brochure which is in the show notes 971.noagendanotes.com The Mad Comm Future

2:03:39 How artificial intelligence will enhance computational propaganda, reprogram human culture and threaten democracy and what can be done about it. This is dynamite! I read this for fun Ten years from now, you won't be able to tell whether you're interacting with a human online or not. In the future most online speech and content will be machines talking to machines Machines talking to humans, talking to machines, talking to machines Oh yeah!

2:04:19 It's a great report. I just wanted to point out the term Madcom, I believe Wolf Blitzer will be saying this incessantly within the next few months. Madcom but we heard about the mad com, the mad com, mad com... It's a good term to say, mad com? Oh, mad com it makes you sound like you're in the know Yeah hey well obviously this MADCOM problem that really is an issue with face bags Now you thought it was nuts here And since we have a short break I think I can play these clips because you'll like them because this is CBC our friends up there from the dollar rats

2:04:56 And they did it, uh... They brought in their tech millennial. This is a Sunday so I figured we'd do some tech news. They brought in the tech millennial to explain how this happened with these Facebook ads and you can only imagine he's going to explain the algos to us but he also uses the word right a lot so if I think Even though I have two clips of equal length, I think you'll enjoy it. During breaking news the likes of which we've been covering this week more and more people turn to search engines and social media to help them sort out the story What happens when those search engines, when Google and Facebook lead people astray? Take a look at these examples of the fake posts circulating on the internet after the Vegas shooting. Misidentifying the gunman, misidentifying victims... The question is how does that happen?

2:05:49 How do stories like that, how do they rise to the surface and what are the consequences of that? Okay so we had fake news as I said about victims about who the shooter was. Of course later identified basically they were wrong They were incorrect and there were two cases that I think are kind of worth highlighting in this context. So, in one case we had Google right? People going to Google and searching for information about possible sort of identities of the shooter And there was one name that had emerged early on Believed might have been responsible and so they were going to Google. They were searching for this name and instead of coming up with you know a Link to CBC or CNN or NBC or some sort of reputable news site?

2:06:36 the reputable news site. I mean, why would you go anywhere else on the internet? Come to both the reputable websites... We're being sent to a essentially sort of dark forum of the Internet where hoaxes and misinformation is often spread in place called 4chan people were discussing the identity of one of the believed sort of uh you know one of the names names of someone who later proved to not be the shooter and that was one example there. And then on Facebook, Facebook has a feature called safety check right? People do the safety check often in times of disasters and other sorts of events uh... alongside safety check they show news stories right? News stories that are supposed to provide context about what's happening in this case facebook is also pulling in misinformation pulling into hyper-partisan news story for far-right sort of new sources all

2:07:24 also things that were misidentifying victims in the shooter and so this was coming from trolls either propaganda reasons, pulling pranks whatever their false information was popping up right at the top of these screens Facebook and Google. You see, they're not doing it right. When you have the check-in to see if you're okay then you need to bring in news from CBC and NBC and all of the good guys, right? Right?! Do you want to hear another clip from him? Right! Yeah well I like this guy How does that happen, that the fake stuff gets to the top of our attention? Yeah. So both of these services rely on algorithms basically complex systems of code right? That helps... Oh! Right hold on a second what's an algorithm answer? Basically complex systems of code right? If you want to know I just got to rehearse that. Try it out for me

2:08:18 I don't know what the lead in was. What's an algo? I was mesmerized by this back and forth. How do these things, how do these things come to the top of what is presented to us? Well it's basically a whole bunch of complicated code right Oh, I see. How does that happen? That the fake stuff gets to the top of our attention? So both of these services rely on algorithms basically complex systems of code right that help sort through all of the different sources of news and information across the internet and figure out kind of what to surface right what's the most important thing to kinda put at

2:08:55 top of people's search results or the top of people's Facebook pages. And, the reason they use these algorithms right is because there is so much on the internet that they say- Right! He said it in a middle of his sentence. But its a contradiction, even better listen. The reason they use these algorithms right is not even a proper use of right because he isn't asking for an affirmation He's just throwing it in. I know! He's just right, throwing right in. Right? Right in. And the reason he's Falco and the reason I'm going to the school right is because I have to do that, right? Yeah. The reason they use these algorithms Right is because there's just so much on the internet, right that they say You know It's it's impossible for humans to kind of sift through at all and they kind of have a point right There's just so much there that you would need thousands if not more

2:09:50 You can't take it anymore. Yes you can, you can do it! The guy uses right three times within one sentence He'll even say wrong and right after each other Can you just please? I get so much fun and joy from this...can you handle it? If I cut if off its gonna be good for- It's done for good Please.

2:10:29 It doesn't stop there, right? And that's exactly what happened in this case, right? Where Google basically said they rely on a bunch of different signals to determine what gets placed into that top stories box. It depends on things like how many people are searching for particular keywords, the authoritativeness of the actual news source, right? The freshness of the source. Jeez!

2:11:05 freshness of the source. Ladies, please stop squeezing the sources! And in this case it was a confluence of signals in particular that sort of freshness that somehow managed to surface 4chan which is... No agenda show now with more freshness Is sort of the polar opposite of what you should be sort of sourcing as a new source It was putting it in that sort of box Which kind of makes you wonder well why wasn't that something that perhaps was more proactively identified As something that should never ever appear in that box as a ticket. Oh my god, this guy's full of crap! You know it reminds me of an athlete...a certain type of dumb athlete you hear them and they pepper everything with ya know, ya know, ya know, ya know, ya know, ya know, ya know, ya know That is todays' ya-know It's the same thing, its a filler Stop word we used to call it a stop word

2:11:59 So he had to give you a moment, he gave me a moment to think or instead of... He doesn't give you a moment to think. He puts the stop word in the middle of his sentence! Oh man I should have smoked weed before this show Yeah probably not There's more, I mean he does a pretty good job explaining it No no no it isn't done Can I just explain? Okay 29 seconds where he explains what has to be done So he explains how... It's not going to be interesting. He doesn't know what he is talking about. Taming the trolls, perhaps needs to fall in other hands. So we'll watch that. Matthew thank you I really appreciate your coming in here in studio and there's more online about this because Matthew has been thinking on and writing about this. That was a fail. Damn it! Okay good. That was a Dvorak fail. Bank! It's a cosmic event

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2:20:20 And there's no birthdays, and there's no... No title changes. No nightings I will do a Jobs Karma Are you going to the big Illuminati festival? Oh man! You're one of the few! No this is the The big web conference in Portugal, in Lisbon. Let me just see what's the title of it? The Web Summit! The Web Summit quote-unquote the largest tech conference in the world you want to hear who is going to be there

2:21:11 Not the largest tech conference in the world. Oh yeah, oh yeah no this is that's why it's the Illuminati they're all there you want to out damn it What did you do? Yeah apparently in your office are beating you same thing that happened last time My mic came off and my hands Why are you holding them like in your hands habit? Okay, Margaret Versteeger the European Commissioner from Denmark. There will be Stuart Butterfield from Slack Al Gore Steve Huffman from Reddit Antonio Gut... no stop saying man because it gets interesting Antonio Guterres the Secretary General of the United Nations CEO... What do they know? What are any these people you've mentioned so far know about? Nothing! It gets better

2:21:55 Wait until I get to the real names. These are just the headliners! The CTO of Amazon, Werner Vogels CEO of Oracle Co-founder of Tinder President and CEO of Booking.com François Hollande Brad Smith of Microsoft Caitlyn Jenner, here we go. Kara Schwisher, Jared Cohen from Google the chairman CEO of Ogilvy of Revolution the CSO of Uber Sophia Bush of The Girl Project John it is everybody except us

2:22:35 It's uncanny. I'm scrolling through this list. You want these two podcasters to be invited? Go to web... Well, no! Bob Greenberg of RGA, Young and Rubicam, Sosathe General, Rosaria Dawson—they're throwing in all kinds of celebrities Let me see this. Goalkeeper for Brazil, Julio Cesar. A goalkeeper on a soccer team? Yes! Steve Blank from Stanford professor BBC sport directors Tarell Owens. Tarell Owens? The NFL guy who's always bitching? What has he got to do with this anything about the win? And a Kasparian host of the Young Turks she gets to go

2:23:25 The CEO of GoDaddy. I'm telling you, this is... it's endless! Everybody wants their picture on this wall, I guess. The CMO of Hilton Hotel. Let's see some more of these Celebrettis It's just incredible. Well it sounds like a lot of B-listers Zee Frank is gonna be there, and we're still not invited who's he remember that guy's a Frank Zee Frank the he was one very popular Video style but he started with the editing really fast. Oh the J Frank thing yeah, say Frank Yeah, that was him yeah, well it's a plague It's I can't believe we haven't we weren't invited well. It's one of those many things We don't get invited to

2:24:17 You wouldn't even know he had a podcast. Well, there's that let alone the best podcast in the universe. All right so I got a couple of take us out of here clips yeah let's start with uh this was a good to me was a great story because this is a classic classic story that you hear local stories they need to shoot it on the national news to be made more fun of but Play man released from prison by accident. A convicted felon released from a Santa Clara County jail by mistake had a week of freedom before he was recaptured 31 year old David Lopez got eight years for pistol-whipping a robbery victim He was arrested today after posting selfies of his trip to a San Jose mall on Instagram

2:25:10 Story of the day. I don't know, I don't know wait. I got a story of the day off with you here It is Charlie Rose on the CBS This Morning Show. Several passengers suffered broken bones after their plane encountered severe turbulence. Video shows people injured on the floor of the Aeroflot plane yesterday, shortly before the Boeing 777 landed in Thailand. At least 27 were hurt. The airline confirms that incident was a result of clear air turbulents – the most difficult type to detect. New research suggests transatlantic turbulence could become up to three times worse in the coming decades. Mark Strassman is at a Dallas Fort Worth International Airport with those concerns, good morning. Good morning for nervous flyers nothing about this research is reassuring clear air turbulence strikes without warning and because of climate change could get worse. The science is in! Okay for pure irony yours is a better story

2:26:14 It's not as funny as minus one of those groaners. Okay, yeah I agree Oh, by the way. I was going through some old clips. I found two whoopee clips that we've never used. I don't believe oh my okay What do I got one? One of them is that I think you can use just an ISO clip But maybe like we played it before but I think it fits in fits in You'll see what's funny It fits in well with your couple other whoopie clips that we've saved try this will be as many things as we can As many other things as we can stick in here I think there's a combo. Hold on, all right we can do a combo clip let's see here we go as many other things as we can stick in here get out of my vagina yeah i think it works yeah it doesn't work as well as i thought can this bitch run the country

2:27:06 Now that one was said in January of 2016 when Hillary is running and she makes this comment. And I'm thinking, why did they jump all over her? This is very disrespectful don't you think? Yeah let me listen again. Can this bitch run the country! I like it you know where I'm putting it Uh, apparently where you can stick many things? That's correct. You know I'm always looking for the Armageddon The signs of Armageddon to you with your cycles and that book one day is going to be great in hindsight Here's what happened This is a promo...I love the tiny house shows

2:27:55 Yeah, I know. We talked about him but this promo just kind of exemplified... By the way before you go on, I find them disturbing! Yeah, I know that I know you do and that's why you'll like this promo. I'm Sam Fox And I'm Sean Steller we're professional tiny livers. We've lived on a boat in crew quarters, we've lived in a trailer, we've lived in a tiny studio in San Diego now we're gonna live in a container Progress Now we're going to live in a container. Did she say her name was Sam fuck? I'm Sam Fox Sam Fox You sure yeah, no i'm not sure but i do have an armageddon like

2:28:43 I think i know the answer but Armageddon like a question for you regarding the jobs number report we never really talk about it but when you hear the magic numbers, you got to bring it up. Yeah yeah yeah glad you got it! the US economy losing jobs in September for the first time since 2010. The economy lost 33,000 jobs. The unemployment rate meantime fell to a new post-crisis low of 4.2%. This report is putting Wall Street's record breaking rally on hold at least for now. For a deeper dive on these numbers we're joined by Yahoo finances Miles Udlin and Justine Underhill so guys you had a chance to parse through this report first off how's the market reacting so far?

2:29:26 You know, it's a little bit muted and you know the stocks are down a little bit. But we're seeing the bond market take this report I'd say fairly seriously considering the distortions that are very obvious in the headline number of the way hurricane impacted this report. The bond market is mostly looking at that wages number and saying the economy in the labor market continues to strengthen means its just as likely as it was yesterday. The Fed will raise rates in December So really the big story is that despite a couple of weird numbers, the market is looking at this report and saying you know we think the economy's about where we thought it was yesterday. So Justine wasn't really all about the hurricanes that had that impact? This negative number were seeing? The BLS said that the hurricanes were huge impact I would say that this payrolls number though this headline number is pretty much ahead fake because everything else in the report was very strong We had unemployment fall to the post-crisis low right we also had wage growth go up and it was revised higher

2:30:16 in August as well to 2.7 percent, that's important and then also labor force participation rate increased to 63 so overall this is pretty good news. So wage growth showing an increase labor participation showing an increase so you just said it a minute ago you believe it's pretty much a likely done deal that the Feds gonna hike rates in December? I'll tell ya that just based on the offhand reports on M5M News media He's like, ah see we're in the tank. It's a crapper first negative jobs You know Trump Trump Trump But the beauty of this report, the way I saw it is what we always talk about. Labor participation rate means that there's more people looking for work. They may still be out of work but they're looking for work so that increase probably there were 33th magic number God knows why other than signaling that's bull crap. Here's the problem with the entire report and don't know why these hostess or whatever she is doesn't point this out if the labor petition participation rate goes up

2:31:18 and the employment goes down, the unemployment number has to therefore go up not down. Right and it went down? It went down how does that work yeah well I'd like to know how they could explain that to me explain that to me That's a first question i ask is can you explain this to me why did that number went down when all of your numbers would make it go up Yeah No explanation But...I don't know Its bogus! Thats why the whole thing is bull crap Yes Yes, maybe the 33 is the reason they're just tell we have many theories what the 33 is about you don't need to send them Yeah We've already been inundated. We already know everything about 33 that week that anyone could possibly know us All we know is whenever 33 shows as a code It's like some form of code and all we can discern Is it's probably the means of stories bullcrap or means that whatever was initiated is now in play ended I mean there isn't old

2:32:21 old Western Union Code 33 that I looked at because I was thinking, you know in old form of journalism when people used to type their stories out and submit them to the copy boy. The guy yay! Copy boy? The story would end with 30 dash three zero dash is the old fashioned way instead of writing end He'd ride 30. That means the story was done and that came from the old telegraph codes from the 1850s, 1860s If you look at a thing called 95 codes it got some name I do know that 10 codes...you know 10-4 Yeah those are new though this is very old Well 1033 is an emergency all units stand by Yes, 1033's an emergency Just like that

2:33:21 Alright, well onward to the next clip. I've got one that thought was a little obscure Oh by the way the Benghazi tried you have a big gazi trial clip Yeah, I haven't I got three clips I can play I get they also you tell me what you want Australian amnesty guns collected I Can I'd like to play this clip so I can do my with the same complaint? I made about five years ago on this show let's do that then and love nothing but repetition Yes. Australia today ended a three-month amnesty for turning in illegal firearms, the government said the public turned in 51 thousand weapons to be destroyed and Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull says that the country's gun laws have prevented mass killings. Australia enacted strict curbs after a gunman killed 35 people in Tasmania back in 1996 Okay so here is my question I've asked it before five years ago

2:34:18 Why do they have to be destroyed? Why don't they give them over to a gunsmith, have them refurbished which would employ a number of people. Have these guns refurbished and then give him to law enforcement who was always complaining that there...they don't have enough guns or their guns are not as good as the other guy's guns and so everyone grabs all these guns and then they mash him up with a steamroller But what about refurbishing them? Gunsmiths can do that and there's lots of them around. And it gives them something to do, why are you throwing the perfectly good gun away? Because they're evil. They kill people. It makes you feel good to know they've been destroyed done. This is just nonsense. Done! Done done done. It's stupid. It's absolutely stupid. Meanwhile this one of the major networks played this girls and guns little package and I thought it was...

2:35:10 in this circumstance because you play it and then I'll talk about it. As America searches for answers after another mass shooting, one thing is clear the gun business appears stronger than ever nearly four million rifles were produced in the US in 2015 up more than a hundred and fifty percent from a decade earlier Mark Strassman met some new customers In the hills of western Kentucky Eve Haney fires an AR-15. Haney's a 62 year old grandmother from Tallahassee, Florida. She is competing in a shooting match organized by A Girl and a Gun, a national group of female gun enthusiasts I didn't realize how competitive i was but I am. I like to see my scores and I like to hear the ping ping ping of the steel 57 year old Dr. Laura Torres Reyes is a retired Air Force colonel

2:36:07 42-year old Robin Sandoval is a mother of three from Austin, Texas. Is it more fun than empowering or empowering than fun? I think it all makes sense together. Empowering and fun! But all of them used to hate guns Were you scared? I was petrified of them. Well, I didn't want them in the house. I didn't want him at home for Sandoval your turning point Was hurricane Katrina first responders were unable to respond and families were kind of left on their own I wanted to be my children's first responder. I wanted to protect him this AR is my favorite AR it's easy to use But the air 15 is no ordinary gun

2:36:47 A descendant of the M16 designed for U.S soldiers in Vietnam, now wildly popular among US civilian gun owners who own an estimated 5 to 10 million of them The AR-15 has also become the weapon of choice for many homicidal loners In Las Vegas this week, gunman Steven Paddock modified his AR-15s into a weapon that behaved like fully automatic assault rifles. When you first heard about Vegas what went through your minds? This man chose a horrible thing to do it's on him How do you get into the head of someone that's that insane I just can't even go there Do you think there should be general civilian access

2:37:29 to the ARs? I do. Because it's our right, it is our Second Amendment right It really goes down to that. I like having access to my AR We have one for home defense Is it a legitimate question whether there's a need for that? It is absolutely a legitimate question and in terms of debate and speech we need to talk about these things None of them knew how to protect society from killers armed with AR-15s Striking that balance has been the most elusive target in America's gun rights debate What did he say at the very end there? It's an elusive target. Oh, haha. Now it was an interesting group of these women were old...old women but they would they're with one that didn't have the patois or the southern accent right was black

2:38:16 And she actually, she had a sound like you know she just had that neutral accent not a black accent or anything else. She was the one who talked about the Second Amendment and I'm reminded when i watch these sorts of things of Tavis Smiley and the clip that we have with him going on about how important it is that black people should be armed to their teeth because they're the ones under the gun as it were just as in the day-to-day situation in their own neighborhoods not because cops are trying to shoot him but because other blacks are trying to shoot them and they should take advantage of their rights. And then I hear that sort of discussion which makes some sense and then I hear all these anti gun people like these women apparently were before they joined Guns N' Girls

2:39:03 They're afraid of these weapons. It's just an interesting situation we've got going on. I have two dimensions, it's pretty blatant I have a clip that i've been holding for a couple of shows, just haven't gotten to it. So do want to play today It's something else we're always on the lookout for as the war on cash is into acceleration mode in the UK New technology is paving the way towards a totally cashless future Electronic money transfers between banks will soon be finalized in less than a minute Adrian Lovney, chief executive of the New Payments Platform an initiative set up by Australian banks to build the technology says funds will arrive in the recipients bank in as little as 30 seconds. We're putting in place a new system which will sit alongside the old system which will make payments move instantly between bank accounts and that'll happen 24-7 365

2:40:02 Under the new system, customers will be able to transfer money between two separate financial institutions in real time. The new payment platform system acts like a secure network between two separate banks for example National Australia Bank and Commonwealth Bank Mr Lovedie says the new technology will allow messages to be sent in real time which allows funds to be sent instantly So the current system that we're using today is about 50 years old and it was designed around the principle of tape exchanges. And transactions were stored until a certain time, and then physically those transactions moved in a batch to the receiver's bank. We're speeding that process up so its instantaneous settlement. It meets the needs of consumers in today's digital economy." Currently the funds go through a lengthy settlement process overseen by the Reserve Bank.

2:40:55 Transferring money from one financial institution to another can take between two to five days. Associate Professor of Finance Eliza Wu, from the University of Sydney says it's a strategic move from the banks I mislabeled this obviously it's Australia not the UK almost done the last bit is worth listening too There has been decline in use of ATMs to withdraw cash anyway so So it's a small saving in order to win some brownie points back with their financial consumers. The new technology has also raised security concerns, banks are ensuring they're doing extra to protect their customers from fraud while some finance experts are predicting a cashless society by 2020 Professor Wu believes cash will still be in the wallets of some

2:41:50 For the reason that cash is still preferred to be used by certain segments of the population, particularly the older generation. But the use of electronic payment methods those tap and go cards and credit and debit cards that's highly preferred by particularly people in their 30s and 40s and of course the younger people But in the older generations, they would still prefer to use cash for a lot of their transactions. The changes take effect next year So they're really pushing this forward very very very hard Well, I like the idea that the cash is preferred by elders. Elders would include us. Yeah. It's like, well once those guys are gone and we got it made... You know what? I just want to put way in advance and I don't like using this phrase because we kind of banned it from the show but I'm going to do it in advance to the young-gers who buy into this crap. We told you so!

2:42:52 Because it's not, this makes no sense. What happens when the... And everyone's first, how does this work? You got people complaining about the grid going down and oh we're under threat by the Russians and the North Koreans and you're talking about EMPs all the rest of it. The EMP, you're broke! Yeah, you done goodbye same goes for Bitcoin by the way Yes, exactly. Oh I did want to launch just a minor initiative if someone's interested but i've now concluded that the the actual answer for the no agenda show is we should have A derivative of ethereum not for money But to use it for really connecting our entire ecosystem

2:43:39 Because I've been reading up and this is really outrageously cool how you can have even your own DNS running. You can have links, articles, attachments... directory of who's a member of our chain because it's just the blockchain If someone would do that, I think that would be very- Also tie in all of our disparate websites It's and it's something that can't kind of be killed off. So it would be nice You know once it works, it works as long as there's still people so that was just a dream of mine I was moaning and groaning in my sleep Yeah I've heard that about you

2:44:19 All right, well I have one last clip which is just to catch us up on something no one's talking about. Which is they're actually having a trial about Benghazi. They snagged some guy in Libya and put him on an aircraft carrier and dragged him into the United States. All of this seems like very sketchy to me that you can do this but we do it. On the night of September 11th 2012 Islamist militants staged a deadly attack on the US compound in Benghazi, Libya Five years later, the only suspect charged in the attack a 46-year old Libyan is on trial in Washington DC. Here's justice reporter Paula Reed. The wave of assaults lasted through the night by the next morning four Americans were dead Ambassador Christopher Stevens Sean Smith Tyrone Woods and Glenn Doherty

2:45:10 An FBI investigation zeroed in on Ahmed Abu Qatala, the leader of the extremist militia group who carried out the deadly attack. He was captured in Libya three years ago by U.S. Special Forces and whisked aboard a US naval warship where he was questioned by the FBI and US intelligence. Thirteen days after he was apprehended, he arrived in Washington under heavy security Abu Qatala's lawyers have raised objections to the jury hearing what he said during his interrogation. But the judge in the case has ruled that his treatment was humane and he voluntarily waived his right to remain silent

2:45:48 Defense attorney Edward McMahon represented 9-11 co-conspirator Zacharias Moussaoui. He says the first challenge for defense attorneys will be finding jurors with an open mind. You don't have to be empty vessel, to be a juror in a terrorism case you just have to say that I'm willing to be fair and impartial. Prosecutors allege Abu Qatala planned the attack to kill Americans he has entered a plea of not guilty to all charges. For the last Until last week, the jury has been coming here to federal court in Washington where they hear testimony from witnesses including some that were there the night of the attack. The trial is expected to last at least six weeks. Paula Reed reporting." Thank you. I'm glad you brought that. That's interesting and I don't quite understand

2:46:36 Who's the group doing this? Government. Government, oh... That explains it. Okay I'm sure they're doing it with a reason what do they want to achieve? The closure so Hillary can say see I told you didn't mean anything what difference does it make now Oh okay that makes sense End of show clips GX2 Leo LaPuke thank you very much for that and well we'll be back on Thursday Jean Sounds good. Yeah, I'm sure something will be going on oh another Sunday so that's not what happened That'll be a Thursday okay? Oh someone happen today Hey John John John John John John ready ready ready ready yeah, go Astros Astros really yeah man to zero

2:47:32 Okay, good for them. It's a good team the team that will win this whole thing I think is scheduled to be Cleveland coming to you from downtown Austin Texas here in the capital drone star states FEMA region 6 on the government maps in the common law condo In the 5 by 9 Cluedio in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where we have blue angels flying around aimlessly They'll be great. I'm John C Dvorak We'll be back on Thursday right here on no agenda. Adios, mofos! You better hide your stash because there's a war going on He will grab you by the pussy He will grab you by the pussy You start to grab you by the pussy He will grab you by the pussy Talking to you lady Grab you by the pussy Grab you by the pussy

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2:49:28 Okay, I have one more boom to come. Because i'm looking at my list of a boom allocation. Boom! Boom! Boom! What is your boom allotment? Allocation allotment is only from the show in your life. Why? I didn't do any in the last show. I thought it was carried over like minutes on certain phone plans. Like...boom! Okay, I have one more boom to come. BOOM Go. I'll tell you kids, come close to your podcast listening device stick those buds deeper into your ear We'l just do it live! That's cool... We'll just do it live! Squirrel mail nails it All hail to the squirrel mail Well you can burn to death in a gasoline car I'd do it all live! Nobody knows what we're talking about I think we should stop the show

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