Episode 96 · Sunday, 10 May 2009

Water Weed And Weasels

A massive parliamentary scandal rocks Westminster while the global pharmaceutical industry prepares for a mandatory double-dose vaccination campaign against the newly rebranded Mexican flu.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 96

About this episode

Prime Minister Gordon Brown and Home Secretary Jackie Smith face intense scrutiny as the UK parliamentary expense scandal deepens over the misuse of taxpayer funds for maid services and adult films. Meanwhile, actress Joanna Lumley has successfully forced a shift in British immigration policy after a public confrontation with the government regarding residency rights for Gurkha veterans. These political tremors coincide with the resignation of White House military director Louis Caldera following the controversial Air Force One photo op flyover in New York City.

The global health landscape shifts as the H1N1 virus is rebranded as the Mexican flu across Europe, with the Dutch government ordering 34 million vaccine doses from manufacturers like Baxter International. In the United States, the CDC tracks the strain's origins to California while schools in Illinois face criticism for using Gardasil commercials in biology curricula. Legal tensions rise in Madison, Wisconsin, where a court ruling now allows police to install magnetic GPS tracking bugs on private vehicles without a warrant. Financial transparency remains a focal point as Congressman Alan Grayson grills Federal Reserve Inspector General Elizabeth Coleman over $9 trillion in unaccounted off-balance sheet obligations.

Adam Curry details the logistical hurdles of international travel and the transition to flatbed seating on Virgin Atlantic and Lufthansa. The program also explores the intersection of neurological health and performance, featuring a personal look at managing Tourette’s Syndrome and OCD. From the secretive Bilderberg Group meeting in Greece to the success of the Apple App Store under Eddy Cue, the landscape of global power and technology is laid bare.


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CHAPTER 01 / 29 Discussion

Transatlantic Travel, Airline Cabin Configurations

Adam Curry returns to London from the United States, reporting a fast flight but a lumpy bed in Virgin Atlantic's upper class. The discussion compares business class seating across British Airways, United, and Lufthansa, noting the transition to fully flat beds. Observations include the unusual design of rear-facing seats on certain United flights and the lack of flatbeds on Lufthansa's older reclining configurations.

london· silicon valley· virgin atlantic· lufthansa· british airways· business class

00:01 Adam Curry, John C. Devorah. I am so frickin' tired. Everybody, we're back at home bases, respectively. It's time once again... This is no agenda. Coming to you from the Crackpot Command Center located in the southwest quadrant of Gitmo Nation East, known as London. Hey, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from parts unknown in Northern Silicon Valley, the place that doesn't exist so the unknown part is key. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. Damn, that was tight. That was good. Will the judges please hold up their votes? 8.7. 8.7, yes. We got ripped off. Hey, buddy. How you doing, John?

00:53 Okay, so you're back in London finally yeah, it's weird because I somehow I'm good I know I I guess I had told you oh, it'll be a bit later or whatever But I got in early. I was home at like one o'clock. It was unbelievable went so fast Hmm your connection sucks my connection. I hear you fine. You can't hear me. That's the good part. That's the good news. Oh Okay, my back is killing me Oh, why? What kind of plane would you fly back on? It was the 747. It was the Virgin, the upper class with the bed and everything. But it was lumpy. The bed was lumpy. The bed was lumpy? Yeah. I don't know. It messed up my back, that's for sure. But it's unbelievable. I'm sorry. No, go ahead.

01:43 I've noticed a couple of flights since I just flew, you know I flew back and forth a couple times this year, that they've changed the, you know, about, I think about two or three years ago, British Airlines put in, in business class, complete flat seats. Flat, in other words, it was a bed that was literally flat. There was a lot of room and it was very comfortable. So it looks as though United, on the flight over, had completely flat beds too and it was like a little alcoves. This is in business, not first class. Right. And it was completely flat except for the fact that they designed the thing with seats that face forward and half the seats face backwards. And that's not a good thing? Well, I mean who wants to be flying around backwards?

02:35 So anyway, you can't complain man if you fly if you got a flatbed and it's for free you can't complain Did you fly backwards in on the I you know, I flew backwards. Okay, although I slept there was a brought back down then coming back on Lufthansa You'd think of all the carriers that would have the flatbed you'd move tends to be one of but no they have the same old reclining seat that kind of keeps you at like just about a 10 or 15 degree angle just doesn't quite do it No, you can't flip around and you know lay on your stomach anything or anything like that So anyway one of these days I'll have it figured out. It's it's a long-ass trip weather is beautiful though It's really just phenomenal. It's like San Francisco weather actually yeah, we have this week. We've got 80s Okay, it's not quite like San Francisco weather, but at least there's Sun blue skies nice and warm everyone's out and despite the fact that

CHAPTER 02 / 29 Discussion

United Kingdom Parliamentary Expense Scandal, Gordon Brown

A massive expense scandal involving British Ministers of Parliament leads to calls for a Scotland Yard investigation into data leaks. Prime Minister Gordon Brown is accused of expensing £6,000 for shared maid services, while Home Secretary Jackie Smith faces criticism for expensing X-rated movies rented by her husband. The controversy centers on the misuse of taxpayer funds for personal household and entertainment costs.

gordon brown· scotland yard· parliament· expense scandal· jackie smith

03:32 You know, no one has a job. They've got no place to live and the government is ripping everybody off for their own personal gain This huge scandal John we missed some massive Expense scandals in the United Kingdom. Well, of course we did because who's gonna cover that over here. We got too many stories Yeah, we do and now the the ministers of Parliament have actually called in the police and The Scotland Yard have to come in and find out who has leaked all of this confidential data. Which of course is a good thing because now we find out that Gordon Brown, he expensed £6,000 for maid services that he shared with his brother for his house. And of course we still have Wacky Jackie's husband who rented not one but two X-rated movies and she expensed that.

04:23 Wow nasty nasty nasty kicked out on her ass. She should put out for her husband. That's what that's what this story tells me It's how embarrassing is that though you actually have to You have to account and well, it was my husband. I would have said perhaps like, well, the both of us watched it or something, you know, it's like a little sexy night and we apologize. I kind of slipped to the crack. No, my husband watched it. Well, yeah, just looking at her. No kidding. That's embarrassing. What an idiot she is. But the headline, the big headline, Joanna Lumley, better known as Patsy from Absolutely Fabulous.

CHAPTER 03 / 29 Discussion

Joanna Lumley, Gurkha Justice Campaign, UK Immigration Policy

Actress Joanna Lumley, known for her role in Absolutely Fabulous, confronts Prime Minister Gordon Brown and the Minister of Immigration regarding the rights of Gurkha veterans. Lumley advocates for Gurkhas who fought for the British in the Falklands War but are being denied entry into the United Kingdom. Her public campaign and direct confrontation with officials are credited with forcing a shift in national immigration policy.

joanna lumley· gurkhas· falklands war· gordon brown· immigration reform

05:09 Or, um... Is that the blonde? Yes, the blonde. Of course, Joanna Lumley, fantastic actress, or I should just say actor. She also was in... wasn't she in the Avengers after... Doesn't this call for a real news hit? Uh, yeah, well we... Sorry. That's okay, we need more of those. Well, it's very interesting what she's done because it's not just like a showbiz story. But the, um... Are you familiar with the Gurkhas? The Gurkhas? Yeah, and I'm... Is that either a small pickle or someone in India? That's a Gurkha, no, I think it's...

05:51 Well, this has to do with the Gurkhas who fought in the Falklands War on the British side. Yeah, these are Indian fighters, aren't they? Yes, correct. I think it's correct. And so you have these Gurkhas who fought on behalf of the British, many of them in the Falklands War. I'm really paraphrasing here because the story gets even weirder. I think Joanna Lumley's dad was either a part of, either he worked with the Gurkhas or he was saved by the Gurkhas. There's something going on and so she is basically speaking up for the Gurkhas who now are being refused entry into the United Kingdom.

06:38 And she went to Parliament the other day and she tapped... She went right up to Gordon Brown and said, I gotta talk to you. And she threw this, I haven't seen the video yet, but this big scene and then she grabbed the Minister of Immigration and said, you are changing this policy. And you can see these pictures of the guy like completely, he's terrified of her. And she's all over the papers and she apparently is changing the immigration laws just by standing up and saying, hey, screw you guys. These guys fought for us. They have every right to enter the United Kingdom.

07:14 and it's like the top of the real news here. Well I would think, I mean the fact that they let in radical Muslim Islamists from Pakistan which are inhabiting all over that part of London and they won't let these guys in who actually fought for them, it doesn't make any sense. No of course, well they're clamping down, you know, the island is shutting down, no one's allowed in. I got in just under the wire Yeah, now you won't be able to get out. I did have a moment when I was entering immigration thinking of the Michael Savage story, thinking, you know, we know there are like six more names on the list. You don't really think that. And you're one of them. Who knows? Well, I mean, it's not any nuttier than Michael Savage being on the list. Well, true. It's actually not really, except for the fact that our audience is one one hundredth of his. Yeah. But anyway.

CHAPTER 04 / 29 Discussion

Michael Savage, Rockstar Energy Drink, Pacquiao vs Hatton Fight

Radio host Michael Savage is identified as the financial backing behind Rockstar Energy Drink, which is managed by his son. The brand received significant exposure during the Manny Pacquiao versus Ricky Hatton boxing match in Las Vegas. During the fight, Hatton was knocked out and landed directly on the Rockstar logo on the canvas, providing an unintentional but high-profile marketing moment for the beverage company.

michael savage· rockstar energy· manny pacquiao· ricky hatton· las vegas

08:17 So Michael Savage's kid, I can't remember his name, but anyway he's the one who's the CEO of this, of the Red Bull clone Rockstar. Oh, I didn't know that. And I think actually Michael Savage is the money behind rockstar. I think it's a pretty successful brand. I see it all over. It's hugely successful. It's amazing. It just came out of the blue. And of course it makes sense because Michael Savage before he became a talk show guy was an herbologist. And he's got a bunch of books on it. I'm an herbologist. What's the big deal? I'm an expert herbologist.

08:56 Yeah, uh-huh. So anyway, Savage would have been the guy that probably blended this thing. But it was so funny because I was watching, they had this huge fight that was obviously big in the UK. It was Ricky Hatton versus Manny Pacquiao, which is brought into Las Vegas, the half of England. I think he's from, where is he from in England? He's either from, he's not Welsh, I don't think. I can't remember. Anyway, you'll have to look it up. He's got, he's from Manchester, so I think. So he's got this huge contingent, they follow him all over the world, you know, and they pound drums, it's really quite a scene. And Manny Pacquiao's got this Filipino contingent, and he's actually one of the greatest fighters I've ever seen. So he beats the crap out of Hatton. And Hatton gets nailed with a left hook and falls, looks like, in fact, a friend of mine was twittering the fight when it happened, he says, oh my god, I think he's dead.

09:52 So we call that a knockout punch. Anyway, he went flat against the canvas which was sponsored by Rockstar. That's why it's there. And he actually was laid out in parallel right on top of the Rockstar logo as though the whole thing was like... You couldn't have asked for anything. You can't get a better setup. Mean it wasn't like he was across it or part. It was just right in the middle So damn this thing I've ever seen nobody mentioned that of course awesome awesome anyway, so looking at the news over here and You know, of course Patricia came back from, she came back yesterday from Holland, her live shows, and she brought back some Dutch newspapers, and I've just been kind of scanning all the headlines. A couple of things that are notable... How's things going with Wendy, by the way? I'm waiting for the shit to hit the fan on our comments. I have no idea how things are going with Wendy. I don't know.

CHAPTER 05 / 29 Discussion

Mexican Flu Rebranding, Dutch Vaccination Strategy

The H1N1 virus, previously known as swine flu, is rebranded as the Mexican flu in the Netherlands, Germany, and France. The Dutch government has ordered 34 million vaccinations for a population of 17 million, suggesting a mandatory double-dose regimen for the upcoming autumn. Questions are raised regarding the efficacy and development timeline of these vaccines, as typical winter flu shots are not finalized until October.

mexican flu· swine flu· netherlands· h1n1· vaccine production

10:51 The swine flu name has changed in the Netherlands and I see it in Germany. I see it in France. It is now officially known as the Mexican flu. It is not the swine flu anymore. But all the headlines in the Netherlands and this is exactly what we predicted, I think one or two shows ago, The Netherlands has now announced, the Dutch government, that there's 17 million people live in the Netherlands. They have on order now 34 million flu vaccinations. So that each member of the Dutch population can receive two flu vaccinations before the big one hits in autumn.

11:39 It's not quite, we're not quite sure if it's mandatory, but seeing as they've got, you know, 34 million, which is exactly double the population, it seems like they will make it mandatory. Giving a new name to two to the head, I think we should maybe call it two to the arm. So I, you know, this being the true testing ground. I think we can see a lot more of this happening and I have a feeling it's going to be mandatory, John. We've got to start looking or find someone or talk to somebody between shows and find out what the deal is with this August flu. The fact of the matter is the flu that shot that they normally put out

12:17 For the winter flu which hip hits the hardest, you know between November and February They can't develop that flu vaccine until late in the game until it exists Yeah, until it exists and then they can kind of figure out what it might become. Then they take four candidates and make a flu vaccine and they can't produce the flu vaccine and get it into the public domain until October. Typically the first or second week of October this thing comes out. And I remember that exact days because a few years ago we actually had a shortage in the US.

12:57 And anyway, they can't, so I don't get what this is. Is this, what, this is just either a hollow shot? I mean it can't have any meaning this the flu shot given for the first week of October It's even funkier because they're saying well, you know so of course we need to have some you know some of the strain or whatever before we can create it and they they're gonna use the new techniques which don't involve the the old-fashioned six-month egg process but even crazier saying so if if the strain is different from the H1N1, they say, oh, well, we can easily morph that into whatever's necessary.

13:35 Well now they do have a new way of, you know, somebody came up this within the last year or two, some, you know, it was a big deal, a big news story that, oh we found a different way of attacking the flu virus through some other mechanism on the little animal itself. And maybe they're talking about that, but it was my understanding that this thing hasn't even gone through human testing yet. Do you think perhaps We're gonna have real-time testing just and this is what we're looking at here is that they're gonna actually experiment on the public wait a minute never mind there's no way they do that. No oh no that wouldn't happen. Well I you know what the more I look at this story it almost it almost feels like

CHAPTER 06 / 29 Discussion

Pharmaceutical Industry Motives, Mexican Flu Origins

Speculation arises regarding the pharmaceutical industry's role in the Mexican flu outbreak, suggesting the scare may be a marketing tactic to drive vaccine sales. Observations about the virus's behavior in Mexico City indicate it became less virulent as it spread, behaving more like a mild seasonal flu. The high initial death toll in Mexico is attributed to potential underlying health factors or the widespread use of antibiotics reducing general population resistance.

pharmaceutical industry· bethesda· mexico city· antibiotics· virus mutation

14:23 There was a payoff was due to the pharmaceutical industry is like okay. Yeah, well we'll we'll conjure up this big scare story and everyone will start freaking out and and then you guys can go ahead and and and you know we already have it all in order where you know now everyone will be prepared to take their shots and Maybe there was, how about this, the pharmaceutical industry created this thing. You know, there was a couple of reports early on when the Mexican flu, swine flu, A H1N1 first appeared that it was, some people said, well, you know, this could have been one of those things developed in Bethesda or at some lab someplace. Cause there was some curiosities about that. Those stories all have been dropped.

15:06 that maybe they got a new marketing trick, which is to create some phony, and the thing that made the flu in Mexico so odd in terms of its perhaps being invented. was that it had no history. It had no history but where it formed outside of a pig farm somewhere in the middle of Mexico, as it gravitated, as it reproduced and moved further away from the source, it became almost nothing. It became like a dud. It became seasonal flu. Yeah, mild seasonal flu. And it's so funny because

15:49 How does it go from 150 dead to nothing? What I understand and what I've deduced, in Mexico they hand out antibiotics very easily. It's not like in the States or in many countries where you go through doctor prescriptions. I think it's very, very easy to get antibiotics. And my feeling is that the general resistance of the population of Mexico City probably was reduced. Does that make any sense? Yeah, but antibiotics really has nothing to do with a virus. I mean it shouldn't have made any difference. Although it turns out that a lot of these people who died, they died of pneumonia or something. This whole story is fishy. That's all I want to say. Well, not nearly as fishy as the...

CHAPTER 07 / 29 Discussion

Air Force One New York Flyover, Louis Caldera Resignation

The White House military director, Louis Caldera, resigned following the controversial Air Force One photo op flyover in New York City. Critics note the lack of a formal apology in his resignation letter and suggest he was following orders from higher administration officials. Additionally, the official photo released by the government is scrutinized for appearing digitally altered or poorly composed against the New Jersey backdrop.

air force one· flyover· new york city· louis caldera· white house

16:38 Of course this happened right after we did our last show. The big Mia Culpa letter came out for the Air Force One flyby. And who's the White House military director? He took the hit and he resigned over this? Yeah, yeah, he quit. You know what was kind of disturbing? Did you read his resignation letter, which was sent to the president, by the way? Did you read it? Did you have a chance to look at any of that? No, I didn't. I didn't think it was worth... I'm now understanding that it was probably something I should have read. Only for one reason and one reason only, not anywhere was there a word that said, hey, I'm sorry.

17:19 He didn't, there was no apology which is like you know here's what happened. Yes, because he was told to do this by the president's office. Yeah, but it's just oh it's so frustrating these people. You're gonna have to quit but I was told to do this. Yeah. No sorry. Just following orders. Just following orders. Don't worry about it we'll give you a pension. Just following orders. We didn't know. That is just and did you see the picture? Did you see the picture that they've released? Yeah. I mean, I'm telling you, that thing is photoshopped! That's the worst picture in the world. So it's flying above the Statue of Liberty, but the background, it's completely not the right New York background. It's got like New Jersey in the background. I don't know what the deal is. Then there's another fishy story. Yeah, duh.

CHAPTER 08 / 29 Discussion

CDC Swine Flu Tracking, Personal Illness Anecdote

The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) reports that the H1N1 strain may have originated in California as early as March before spreading to Mexico. Global case counts are tracked across Canada, Spain, Britain, and Israel, while symptoms are described as high fever and body aches. One of the hosts recounts a week-long illness with similar symptoms, though it was not officially diagnosed as the Mexican flu.

cdc· h1n1· california· ireland· canada

18:12 Somebody just sent me an interesting little note here on the swine flu. Now this is a good one. Now the US, this is a, this came in some weird source, but it says, US Disease Prevention Center, I don't even know what that is, claims the newly spread potentially fatal strain of swine flu virus may have originated from California. Oh, of course. The Centers for Disease Control and Protection said on Saturday that the state preceded Mexico, the alleged source of the virus. This is now the story is even weirder. As we investigated, blah, blah, blah, as early as March, patients were diagnosed in California with a new type of viral infection. The new strain is Hawaiian flu virus H1N1, blah, blah, blah. So, okay, so it started in California, goes to Mexico, kills 150 people, comes back to California and does nothing.

18:59 And meanwhile they make such a big deal about the here to list here Ireland's the latest to report a case It says here's how many has been confirmed 51 in Canada 15 in Spain 13 in Britain 6 in Germany 4 in New Zealand 3 in Israel 1 in Switzerland This is doing do we know actually know what the symptoms are of this thing? Well the symptoms have been listed was just a high fever and achy back. Yeah, but not necessarily vomiting. I don't think that's a necessity in this one. No, maybe diarrhea. Gee, big difference. Because I was talking to the girls, and Dexter's here as well, because I was pretty sick for a good week and a half. I was definitely on the ropes.

19:49 And I said, you know, I definitely whatever, you know, if we call it Mexican flu, swine flu, I had it. I mean, there was no other flu going around that anyone talked about. So I had it. Oh, no, that's impossible because you weren't throwing up. You weren't violently ill. I said, I was ill. It's just, you know. Well, you had something. But the thing that's weird about what you had was you come into the office in San Francisco, which is normally a cesspool of disease. Yes, it is. And you didn't get pass it on to anybody. Well, I didn't kiss anyone this time around. I'm just saying. From the world of the pharmaceutical industry and from another one of our younger listeners to NOAAgenda.

CHAPTER 09 / 29 Discussion

Gardasil Marketing in Schools, Mitchell's Email

A 15-year-old student from New Trier High School in Winnetka, Illinois, reports that a biology teacher assigned homework using the Gardasil commercial website. The student expresses concern that the curriculum promotes the HPV vaccine without discussing health risks or government subsidies. The school is noted for its prominent alumni, including Rahm Emanuel and Donald Rumsfeld.

gardasil· hpv vaccine· winnetka· rahm emanuel· donald rumsfeld

20:33 I'm gonna read this email because it's disturbing. Hey Crackpot and Buzzkill, after listening to NOAA Agenda 95 in which the 16 year old from Gitmo Nation West wrote in, I thought you might want to hear what's being taught to the children in the Midwest of Gitmo Nation East. I'm a 15 year old freshman at the same high school that two of your favorite guys, Rahm Emanuel and Donald Rumsfeld, graduated from. Wow, that's interesting. I didn't know they went to the same school. I didn't either. My biology teacher... that must be like... what's in DC? What's where all those kids go to? My cousins all went to it. Wesley, maybe? I don't know. My biology teacher recently gave us a homework assignment to learn about HPV.

21:17 And what website did she tell us to go to? Why, www.gardasil.com of course. Where better to learn about a virus than the website of the sole provider of a vaccination for it? There's even a nice video on the homepage featuring some girls approximately the age of those in my class. While the assignment had questions about how Gardasil works and why it's important, there was not a single question on the possible health risks. I wasn't expecting my biology teacher to ask questions about how drugs are subsidized by the government, but I still find it difficult to believe that my teacher was not paid off. I love you, man. I have attempted to convert some additional NOAA gender producers, however bringing anything up that could possibly be viewed as anti-government results in the large majority of my peers thinking I am a complete moron. So I have rested my case. Your show is the only time I ever hear about most of the stories you talk about, so please give up the great work from Mitchell.

22:11 I did excellent excellent a young freedom fighter a freedom ranger Amongst us up-and-coming lovely freedom ranger. We gotta use that one you like that one. Yeah, so Yeah, well, that's just kind of what the It just kind of pisses me off. This is going on in schools. Our kids are not safe. I The name of the school, actually we're talking about one, is in Winnetka, Illinois called New Trier. Oh, is that where Emanuel and... I guess. And Rumsfeld. Sounds like a propaganda center. And I keep reading that Tamiflu is no longer effective against the Mexican flu, which of course is Rumsfeld's company.

CHAPTER 10 / 29 Discussion

Tamiflu Efficacy, Relenza Inhalation Treatment

Reports suggest Tamiflu may no longer be effective against the Mexican flu, leading to a discussion of Relenza as an alternative powder-based inhalation treatment. Relenza is noted for its unique delivery system involving blister packs and a vortex device. The discussion also highlights Baxter International, a Chicago-based company contracted for vaccine production, and its proximity to political figures in the Obama administration.

tamiflu· relenza· donald rumsfeld· baxter international· chicago

22:57 I haven't heard that from anywhere. I've been reading, I'll put the links in the show notes. Yeah, no, there's some kind of like semi-official looking reports about this that it doesn't work anymore. And of course... For you people out there who listen to the show, Relenza. Switch to Relenza. Relenza is a little harder to use because you have to inhale it. It's a powder. Oh. And so like you get these blister packs and this crazy device that you suck on. And, um, do you have this? I've had it. I don't have any with me now. Oh, okay. Cause I carry around Tamiflu, but I, you know, I would just, I mean, I, I found it to be kind of interesting anyway. So you, you push this little thing and it pops the blister pack and then you inhale as hard, really hard, real hard, you know, to get this powder kind of in this, in the vortex and it goes into your lungs directly.

23:49 And it actually has a nice flavor, believe it or not. And I suppose you could probably put this in the stir packs, of powdered milk. It's actually kind of tasty. So you could also drop it in your tea. Uh oh, I never hear you cough, John. Maybe it's time to... So Baxter International, who of course is one of the companies that is contracted by the government to come up with the vaccination, they're a Chicago-based company. I didn't realize that. A lot of interesting Chicago companies cropping up doing weird stuff. Of course, that would come right back to the

24:32 Chicago mob that has now infiltrated the administration and the White House. Yeah, pretty much. This guy's got it covered. So I'm looking at the school. uh... the website there's a list of new tryer high school on it is from northern part of chicago just north of the city itself which is which is the ritzy part of the ms were you know did jesse jackson got a mansion all these people live in this northern area and some of the people who graduated miss school include and margaret adam baldwin ralph bellamy uh... the bellamy brothers earned charlton heston rock hudson while virginia madsen penny lobe millford or he will brian

CHAPTER 12 / 29 Discussion

Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, Objectivism Philosophy

A host discusses reading Ayn Rand's 1,070-page novel Atlas Shrugged, focusing on its critique of government overreach. The conversation touches on Rand's philosophy of Objectivism and her other famous work, The Fountainhead, which was adapted into a 1940s film starring Gary Cooper. While the storytelling is praised for its drama, the underlying philosophy is described as polarizing and occasionally unpleasant.

ayn rand· atlas shrugged· the fountainhead· objectivism· gary cooper

27:51 Whatever. Hey, we get to have our couple of our listeners now that are correcting us in real time Which I think is great and apologies for the last show. We just couldn't get the stream working at the same time You know, I am I'm reading a book that was Recommended to me by one of our listeners and it's a bitch of a book. It's like how many pages this thing? It's like 1070 pages of small print so very challenging for me and But it's been around for 50 years and I'm about a quarter of the way through it. Can I guess the name of the book? Yes, please do. The London Phone Book. No. No? It was written in the 40s, very famous author. She's written another famous book which I also haven't read. Honestly, I'm such a culture... You're not going to say And Rand, I hope. That's exactly what I'm going to say.

28:47 Atlas Shrugged. Ugh, please. Have you read this? I've read her stuff, sure. Have you read it? And the Fountainhead is the book you want to read. That's actually quite entertaining. Well yeah, so that's... I understand that they're ready to make the movie about the Fountainheads, but... The Fountainhead was made into a movie in the 40s starring Gary Cooper. Oh, then it's a remake. There you go. The original is probably better. But Atlas Shrugged is really interesting. Why are you going, oh brother? She is a, she is a essentially a cult figure. Yeah. And the people who follow her are all kind of wacky. It's a thing called objectivism. And what's your point? Yeah, I know it makes sense with you doing this of course.

29:26 She's a, this philosophy she developed called objectivism is rather, it's kind of soulless and it's not particularly pleasant ideals that are in it. I'm not a big fan. Well, so I guess I haven't gotten to the idealistic part, but what is kind of cool is just the description of how evil government really is. At least that's the way I'm reading it. You need to read this book, huh, to get that? Yeah, you know what I'm saying. It's fascinating though. It's a page turner once you kind of get into it. Yeah, no, I actually sat down and read Fountainhead in one sitting. It's just phenomenal. And by the way, anyone out there who knows that book knows what that means. Don't say it. Don't say anything. Because that's the next one on my list. No, but I thought it was a great... This is a book that I would never pick up to read. I'd look at this thing and go, uh-uh, no, no time for that.

30:26 This is like, this is bigger than my bar of gold. I have a book around here I should recommend. And when I finish it, so by the next show I'll do a review. But it's, I think, so you would not recommend having read it a long long time ago? In its original, apparently in its original first run edition. No, I mean if people have never read Anne Rand, I mean she's a very entertaining writer and she's got a, she creates a sense of drama. The storytelling is fairly decent. It's just that the underlying, you know, philosophies, you know, get on your nerves after a while. I actually had a roommate in college who was Anne Rand nut. And I found the guy to be, you know, he kept, I think most of his time was spent looking in the mirror and grooming his eyebrows, literally.

CHAPTER 13 / 29 Discussion

Celebrity Gossip, Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie

A brief discussion on celebrity culture centers on rumors regarding the potential split of Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie. The hosts reflect on Pitt's acting career and Jolie's public persona, noting the intensity of media coverage in American tabloids like the National Enquirer. The segment concludes with a critique of Pitt's film The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.

brad pitt· angelina jolie· national enquirer· people magazine· celebrity news

31:18 And I think that's pretty much, to me, that's an and-rand. Of course, you know, you might do the same, but... I don't see you doing that, actually. I'll let you know. I'll let you know how it turns out. Yeah, you'll be kind of a nutty guy. You'll be a fanatic for a short time. So, uh, anything else? I think that's it for this week's news. No! No, man, don't forget I'm out here. I don't have any stories There's tons of that's right. There's nothing you can know about and it's the craziest thing so I always pick up the National Enquirer and People magazine and us magazine and and Teen Vogue for Christine and I bring that home and and and so I'm walking around pushes hey, hey, and I said what?

32:01 It's the funniest thing and you know how long we've been married 22 years and how long have I been a crackpot? You know at least two years, maybe three years, and she says is this true is this true I say what that Brad and Angelina are gonna split up like What why would I know that Because you were in the States and everybody knows what's going on here. More importantly, why would I care? Brad and Angelina. I'm surprised they stay together as long as they have. She's smoking, man, but she's gotta be kinda wacky.

32:39 Kind of I don't know. I mean she's got to be a handful any guy I gotta give Brad Pitt a lot of credit cuz he's a very faint You know he's a good actor. I like really like his movies, and I like what he selects to do although I couldn't watch you know after reading Did you see that? No, I haven't seen that. But I couldn't watch that other movie where he's an old man as a baby. Oh, the Curious Case of Benjamin Button? I couldn't watch it. I couldn't stand... I was on the airplane. There were three movies I watched. When I travel across the ocean, I watch probably three or four movies depending on which direction I'm going.

CHAPTER 14 / 29 Discussion

Film Reviews, Frost/Nixon, The Reader, Seven Pounds

The hosts review several recent films, highly praising Frost/Nixon for its portrayal of David Frost's financial risks and the historical interview with Richard Nixon. Other discussed titles include The Reader, which is described as emotionally moving, and Will Smith's performance in Seven Pounds. Conversely, the James Bond film Quantum of Solace is criticized for its lack of story and excessive Jackie Chan-style action sequences.

frost/nixon· the reader· seven pounds· james bond· will smith

33:15 And so I watched the new James Bond movie. I was thinking about this last night. I said, well, I can talk about movies I saw recently. I saw that and I couldn't, to this, and I started thinking about it, I said, for one thing, I almost turned it off three times in the middle because it was more like a Jackie Chan movie. There was no story and there was like the kind of action that was like why is this guy having to do is is when did James Bond become this world-class karate champion you know with did with all these crazy moves and calling up buildings and doing Jackie Chan stuff so I thought it was and and the movie started with about two or three these scenes I said this is ball I'm turning it off and I've been there watching it but thinking back and I can't remember what it was about and it was so shallow oh how I long for the days of Roger Moore and even Sean Connery when you think of it

34:02 So then, I tried to watch the Benjamin Button movie, I couldn't take it. It was just annoying, it was so annoying I had to turn it off. The movie I did like, and everyone out there should definitely rent or look at it or get a copy, because it was riveting and you wouldn't know why unless you saw the movie, Frost and Nixon. Oh, I saw that, I saw that on the way over. Fantastic movie. I had no idea that Frost financed all that stuff himself, that he took this huge risk and almost blew it. Yeah, it almost went bankrupt. It's a fantastic story. Mostly about the back story, not so much about the debate. And it was, I think it's one of the finest films I've seen for years. There is one other one I'd like to mention, since I also like to watch movies from time to time when I'm traveling across the ocean.

34:54 The Reader with Kate Winslet. Yeah, I didn't get to... I was thinking about that. I cried. I could not stop crying. I had actual tears. I'm like, I'm so happy. I'm so happy on my flatbed because I don't want anyone to see that I'm sitting here like a baby just crying. I'm such a pussy. And it's a long movie too. It's like two and a half hours. But beautiful I watched beautiful movie. I watched Jim Carrey's yes, man And I think that was actually even though it's it's ridiculous formula movie Which is right out of the textbook how to you know piece one of these formula flicks together You know boy meets girl boy loses girl boy means yeah But I thought it was highly entertaining because there's a there's a bunch of scenes that are quite funny and Jim Carrey's quite good Did you see seven pounds Will Smith?

35:42 No, seven. I don't even never even heard of that one. Yeah, it's a good movie man It's one of those that kind of unravels and it all comes together at the end and just a it's a fabulous story I don't see I can't really tell the story because it would spoil it but Will Smith I think his performance in that is It's Oscar stuff really really is another movie where I cried I Yeah, well the Oscar movies are the ones that come out near the end of the year. They've got this thing set up now where... No, wait, it's all gonna be Indian movies again. Yeah, probably. I found, you know, the movie industry is in such dire straits.

CHAPTER 15 / 29 Discussion

Hollywood Film Financing, Debt Crisis

The Hollywood film industry faces a severe crisis as traditional debt financing from banks and hedge funds disappears. This lack of upfront capital has stalled production for many projects, leading to widespread concern among industry moguls. The hosts joke about providing their own financing or seeking bit parts in future films to help the industry.

hollywood· film financing· debt financing· hedge funds· movie industry

36:26 And you know how movies are finances basically two types of financing. There's the Well, there's two parts to the financing you have the you know The money that just flows in from idiots who want to think they're gonna get laid, you know by the actresses and they can be on the red carpet But the real the real financing is the debt financing of these movies that is all done up front That's always the first money out and that's the real that's what you know real head hedge funds are in that and And banks, you know, it's pure debt financing. There is no debt financing anymore There are meetings going on all over Hollywood people are freaking out because there is no money to make movies right now There's just no money. Well, that's what I'm saying perfect opportunity for what for some debt financing I'd love to debt finance a couple movies. Are you kidding me? I

37:21 Well, what's your email? The Hollywood moguls that listen to the show can send you a note and you can be given organizing this. Yes, I could. I wonder if we had any Hollywood people that listen to the show because I've been trying to get a bit part. As what? Just some guy, you know, a guy behind the counter. I don't care. That is 7-Eleven. Hey, you kids, get away from that Pac-Man. Would you like fries with that? Get out of my sight, you kids. Don't you know how to flip a burger? May 14th, the annual Bilderberg conference is scheduled to be held in Greece this year.

CHAPTER 16 / 29 Discussion

Bilderberg Group Conference, Greece 2009

The 2009 Bilderberg Group conference is scheduled for May 14th at the Astir Palace Hotel in Greece. The secretive meeting involves world leaders, royalty, and top media editors who are prohibited from reporting on the proceedings. The discussion criticizes the use of non-disclosure agreements in journalism, comparing the event's secrecy to Bill Gates' private tech retreats at Hood Canal.

bilderberg group· greece· prince bernard· journalism ethics· non-disclosure agreements

38:10 Oh, in Greece. Oh, yes. In Athens or one of the islands? It's at the five star Naftsika Ashtir Palace Hotel in Vouliazio Menemini. Which sounds like an island to me. It sounds like one, yeah. You don't want them with the regular public. You have to put them out on an island somewhere. And this is just the crazy... For people who don't know what the Bilderberg Group is, started by Prince Bernard of the Netherlands in the Bilderberg Hotel. It's essentially world leaders, royalty, the movers and shakers all come together. But the crazy thing is it also includes editors of the top publications of newspapers, magazines

38:56 but it's kind of like a fight club thing where... How come we've never been invited? Let me think. I have interviewed someone who went there, the Dutch Secretary of Economic Affairs and I asked him point-blank. I said, so what'd you guys discuss? So what'd you chat about there at the Bilderberg? I'm sorry I can't talk about that. It's the first rule of Bilderberg is we don't talk about Bilderberg. But it's... That's because they don't talk about anything. It's a drinking club. Well then why... the press that is invited, why doesn't the press just say that then? Oh you know we just hung out and drank. I mean that's okay. I'd accept that. But the fact that the press is invited, world press, top editors and owners of publications, but the editors and nothing is allowed to be published. It's irksome.

39:53 And doesn't that hurt their credibility? Bill Gates used to have a thing down the Hood Canal. He's got some sort of a lodge there. And he every year would invite, you know, Walt Mossberg and John Markoff and all these hot shots and all these big papers that covered technology down to this brainwashing session that they had at the Hood Canal. And they would, one of the rules was the same rule. You can't... What? You've told us this story before. Well, you wanted to do your... I did? Yeah! That you were no longer invited. No, no, I was never invited. Okay, well I take it back. Continue.

40:38 No, I was never invited but I found out about it and the only reason I found out about it was a fluke because they had the same rule. No, you can't talk about it but we have a bunch of newspaper guys. This is the problem with tech reporting by the way. It's not just tech reporting, but yes. No, I'm just saying with tech reporting they make people sign, and I have to say they did this with tech reporting before they did with the general media, which is make people sign non-disclosures. So you sign a non-disclosure agreement, which is a legal document that says you can't talk about this or that and sometimes there's a date attached where you can start talking about it or not. I mean this is all done for the marketing department so they can carefully orchestrate how they're gonna roll a product out and how they're gonna keep the buzz alive and do all the rest of it. So there's no real reporting going on because you're signed off on all this stuff. By the way, I refuse to sign these things.

CHAPTER 17 / 29 Discussion

Apple Cupertino Meeting, Eddy Cue, iTunes Strategy

A host recounts a meeting in Cupertino with Apple executive Eddy Cue to discuss the integration of podcasting into iTunes. Cue, who manages the iTunes and iPhone divisions, is described as operating like a record industry mogul with an office filled with autographed celebrity photos. The discussion highlights Apple's strategy for in-app purchases and the success of the App Store platform.

apple· eddy cue· cupertino· itunes· iphone apps

41:25 And I think it's abhorrent that anybody does sign them. And they sign them at the New York Times, they sign them at the Washington Post, they sign them every place else. No, what I did was I had found out about this, the Hood Canal thing, and then I got a hold of a couple of friends of mine that went there and I just had them tell me about it and I just reported on it. And of course then they cancelled it and they never had it since, that I know of. So I was not under non-disclosure just before I left. We went down to Cupertino and met with my old friend Eddie Q. You know Eddie? Fast Eddie Q? Yeah, it's Fast Eddie Q everybody! How you doing? Eddie Q down here in Cupertino. Eddie Q runs the entire iTunes, iPhone, iPod Touch division. He's your buddy? Yeah. Well, it was just before the D conference when he called me up and said, yeah, Steve and I would like to meet with you about podcasting and iTunes.

42:20 And this is before they you know before they integrated it and announced it and launched it and so we went down for the meeting and These guys are on fire down there, dude. They're so on fire And now the fire not not unlike actual fire, but no okay, but that oh man It's just amazing this platform that they have and now in the the new iPhone apps I believe that the functionality you'll be able to to create an iPhone app where you can then sell stuff within the iPhone app and So you can sell your iPhone app and then you could potentially sell well obviously anything in the iTunes store But also other iPhone apps so you can put your own like affiliate program into the iPhone app and it's just there's they're so smart They're so on to that. They know exactly what to do. These guys are damn. All right. All right, I curse more I curse you giving them a blowjob on the air. Yeah. Well, that's it. That's all I wanted to do Hold on was it? No, it's good. Well, we're gonna do some stuff with them. We got some ideas. I

43:23 Okay, well that's a good thing. Yeah, yeah. But I was just amazed at Eddie's office. Dude, he's got like every massive celebrity. It's like, Eddie, I love you. It's almost like he's a record boss. Well, of course he is really. But, you know, from actors to sports figures, he's got... But he has a bunch of signed autographed pictures all over the office? A bunch? That is the office. I mean, there's not a wall space left. Because this thing is just so massive for people. I think I'm actually have to go get one now go get one what an iPhone I gotta get an iPhone again, would you want just get the I was What iPod touch well I have I have the old iPod touch I could get a new iPod touch don't get an iPhone cuz you're gonna all you're gonna Do is complain about I was thinking of taking my g-phone in and just laying it on the table Hey everybody how you doing? Here's my he's my g-phone

CHAPTER 18 / 29 Discussion

Android G-Phone, Firmware 1.5 Update, Netbooks

The T-Mobile G-Phone is praised for its functionality, though concerns are raised regarding battery life issues following the 1.5 firmware update. One host checks their device to find it is still running version 1.1. The conversation also touches on the potential for Android-based netbooks and a minor mystery regarding a sudden increase in Twitter followers.

android· g-phone· t-mobile· firmware· netbooks

44:22 Which I am loving more and more by the way. I love the G-phone because I have the US, the Mevo offices gave me this one and so we have the T-Mobile I guess on it. So when I'm in the States I want to use that because it's obviously cheaper to call around. So I wound up kind of using it as my primary device and it just really does rock. I can't help but say it. What operating system you have on it? Because if you have my son who has a developers model Upgraded to 1.5 and he says the battery life. It just goes right it becomes usable Really? Yeah, well I have the most recent version. I mean it's all updated Yeah, I think of as a T-Mobile phone is probably not 1.5 Well can I see that in the won't tell me in the settings if I look at it what? It's about phone. Hold on yes about phone

45:15 I have firmware version 1.1. Oh, I know they got a lot of tweets saying I won't let us upgrade to 1.5 So so I go to my Twitter account to now and set there what you're looking for this. I'm gonna tell you it's 1.1 It's 1.1. So it's not 1.5. Okay, so I'm looking at the Twitter account to tell people we're streaming this and my my following goes from the 666 which I had on there as a kind of a gag to 667. I didn't follow anybody new. You must have done something somewhere. Adam can upgrade the old iTouch to the new firmware for $10. So, um...

46:04 I don't know. I didn't. I'm telling you. I don't just follow anybody. I don't remember. I know I didn't. I guarantee you. Yesterday it was 666 and now it's 667. So there's some hack going on that got me up one number. So I'm just waiting for... I'm so tired I can't remember what I was going to say. I lost it mid-sentence. Can you believe that? Yeah, that was bad. Yeah. I can hardly wait for... I know what it is. I remembered. For Android on a netbook. I'm holding out. The first netbook that really has Android rocking, I'm buying it. I think these guys are onto something.

CHAPTER 19 / 29 Discussion

Mobile App Stores, No Agenda BlackBerry App

The proliferation of mobile marketplaces, such as Nokia's Ovi store, is discussed as an attempt to replicate Apple's App Store success. Listeners have requested a dedicated No Agenda app for BlackBerry, while existing iPhone apps are limited by Apple's streaming bit-rate restrictions. The Streamfurious app is recommended for Android users to access the show's live stream.

app store· nokia ovi· blackberry· streamfurious· iphone

46:43 It'll never be the platform success, or let's not say never, but I don't think it'll be the platform success that iTunes is. And everyone's trying to do this now. Nokia is relaunching the Ovi store, which keeps reminding me of ovaries for some reason. But they're relaunching the Ovi store. And everyone's trying to recreate this model of a marketplace, an app store, essentially the Apple App Store. But it's not working for, or at least doesn't appear to be as successful as what Apple is doing. But it's kind of like the new black, you know, everybody has to have a store, an app store.

47:24 Yeah, I know. Everyone has to have an app store and it always has to be called an app store. And we totally need a no agenda app for the BlackBerry. Lots of people requesting that and I have no idea if it's hard to do or... Somebody out there, probably one of our listeners can just probably knock it off in a weekend. Well, we'll promote it. So we'll promote it. So what's the... now we have two apps for the iPhone. Yes, we do. I've not tried either one. Jersey Joe at the office he he's using the one that the original one, but yeah I don't know if they're the same if they're the same functionality But people do seem to like it because it does the it'll it'll download the podcast, but also Play the stream that is only if we keep the stream at 64 kilobits or lower because Apple Apple won't allow a higher quality stream and

48:23 I guess for the cost of bandwidth or something of the like. Well, can't you get the stream in some other fashion? Do you have to go through the Apple everything to do everything? Does everything have to go through Apple? Does all roads lead to Apple? Does everything have to come out of Apple? It doesn't make any sense. Probably. Well, we need an Android phone app then. Well, Streamfurious does it very well. Streamfurious, we're baked in. We're in the listing. And they actually they they asked me for some sound sort of sound clips and so I guess they want they want to do like a soundboard along with no agenda. I mean, I don't care. I'm just happy. Streamfurious is a great app. I use it on the you should you should load it on the on your G phone. It's a great streaming streaming radio app. So I've been saving this one and now what are we 45 minutes into the show? Yeah, perfect. Here we go. John, the Clean Water Restoration Act

CHAPTER 20 / 29 Discussion

Clean Water Restoration Act, Federal Water Control

The Clean Water Restoration Act amends federal law by removing the term "navigable" and granting the U.S. government control over all "waters of the United States." This includes interstate waters, tributaries, wetlands, and potentially private wells. The move mirrors discussions at the World Water Forum in Turkey, where water was stripped of its status as a human right, leading to fears of total government control over water resources.

clean water restoration act· congress· water rights· world water forum· turkey

49:26 which amends the Federal Water Pollution Control Act now passed. Do you know what this does? Probably something bad. Yeah, well it's right along what we were talking about earlier or a couple weeks back with the United Nations wanting to control the waters, the oceans, the seas, etc. So there were some changes in this amendment to the act And they've taken out the language navigable waters of the United States and changed it to waters of the United States, which is a huge difference because in one case it's I guess water where you can use as transportation and now it's all water of the United States. Including the water in my well? Yes, all water.

50:18 So here it is, Waters of the United States. The term Waters of the United States means all waters subject to the ebb and flow of tide, the territorial seas, and all interstate and intrastate waters and their tributaries, including lakes, rivers, streams, including intermittent streams, mudflats, sandflats, wetlands, sloughs, prairie, potholes, wet meadows, Playa lakes, natural ponds and all impoundments of the foregoing to the fullest extent of these waters or activities affecting these waters are subject to the legislative power of Congress under the Constitution. Water is now owned by the government. It is no longer a right. You have no right to water. The government controls water.

51:04 And there's a huge, I mean there's people freaking out over this. There are, and this was announced at the World Water Forum in March in Turkey, where language actually from their, what do you call it, their doctrine, declaring water as a human right was removed. So, in the United States, the way I read this, and the way others read it as well, all water, and that was quite a list there, including your well water, John, is owned by the government and I guess can be done with as they please whenever they want to. Does that include recycled pee? Why are you like this? This is so unnecessary. This is a huge deal.

52:04 This is, this is, let me ask you this, would you consider water a human right? Well I don't consider it a right, I consider it a thing, an item, a reality, something that exists. I don't, I mean, I don't see how... Well let's say access to water, or can someone say, no you can't have that water? Well, if they put a fence around the reservoir, I don't think I have the right to go through the fence. Right, but who's putting the fence around the reservoir? The government can now do that. I have mixed feelings about this, let's put it that way. I don't know what this means. I mean, I don't know why they're doing this. There's something fishy about it, which is today's theme, by the way. Fishy stories.

CHAPTER 21 / 29 Discussion

Climate Change Skepticism, Joy Behar vs Rush Limbaugh

A debate over climate change is sparked by a clip of Joy Behar criticizing Rush Limbaugh's skepticism on Larry King Live. The hosts argue that the claim of "every scientist" agreeing on global warming is a red flag, as science is inherently debatable. They suggest that natural events like volcanic eruptions have a far greater impact on the atmosphere than human activity, characterizing the "save the earth" movement as arrogant.

climate change· al gore· joy behar· rush limbaugh· meteorology

52:45 So if I look at the grand overview of everything that's going on and all the horseshit that we're following when it comes to climate change, here's kind of what I'm thinking. Here's the theory that I'm working on. Call it a conspiracy theory if you must. So clearly, clearly there is knowledge that in the next few years, and probably it'll coincide with 2012, go ahead say it, oh brother, Oh brother! Clearly there is knowledge that there are big changes afoot and it makes sense. There are changes. The magnetic poles are reversing. We've got all kinds of massive magnetic and solar activity. You know, the earth is changing. The earth changes all the time. It's evolved throughout its history. Only 6,000 years as you know.

53:37 I believe that there is actual knowledge that lots of crap is going to happen and that there will be weird... I'm not calling for destruction and devastation, we're all gonna die, but yeah, we could see flooding in weird places, we could totally see shit coming down, and I think that that's why all these stories are being launched, and that's why Al Gore can say with such certainty that the science is clear, and uh... well while you're at it play the clip i gave you now okay almost second this is a one-sided a hard on larry king she's is she from the from the view joy they chose the comedian she's a comedian that that is one of the women on the view okay well here we go she's on larry king and joy she's going to be pitching about outside go ahead she can be pitching about rush limbaugh

54:29 And this pertains to 2012 somehow? Just play it. Hey, hey, get off my lawn you kids! Shut up! There you go. There's no problem. I mean this guy, Rush Limbaugh, I used to work with him years ago and I sort of am friendly with him in a certain weird kind of way. They did pills together. And he constantly is talking about how there is no global warming. Every climatologist in the world... says there's global warming. Every scientist has said there is a problem. We're all on this earth together and this guy goes out and says that there's no global warming. Who is he? What is he talking about and who are these ditto heads that agree with him I'd like to know. Aren't they breathing the same air that we are? I don't think he has a degree in meteorology. What a bonehead! Meteorology. That has nothing to do with climate.

55:23 So, of course, that implies that either Al Gore has a degree in meteorology or that Joy has a degree in meteorology. But this is the thing that gets me about this stuff, which is every, the word, use every, not some, but most, majority. Every single one. This is what the problem is with this argument and why it sets off a bunch of alarms and red flags with me. When you start saying, because this is like going to Israel and getting an agreement, you know, with anybody, they're just going to be debating forever. And then the scientists don't all agree on anything. Is that the definition of science?

56:04 Sorry? Isn't that almost a definition of science, that it's not truth? It's debatable. Yeah. So how does every, with no exception, every climatologist and every scientist This is bull. I mean, when you start hearing that, you know something's wrong. When will we just come to terms with the fact that the arrogance, the pure arrogance of thinking that we are going to hurt Mother Earth is ludicrous? We might kill ourselves, sure. I mean, that's highly likely. In fact, it's probably necessary that a whole bunch of us die pretty soon because we're growing at exponential rate.

56:40 And so maybe that's why things like Mexican flu were introduced to kind of help that along. But the arrogance of thinking that we're going to ruin the earth just slays me time and time again when I hear that. Yeah, I know one day, you know, Krakatoa goes off and it throws up so much crap into the atmosphere that we could never duplicate, you know, a super volcano blowing and they happen all the time. So anyway, I just found that clip to be annoying. You know, here's a comedian that is just full of herself. And it's just I found the thing to be... And by the way, I have a clip. I can put it up. I'll send you a link to one of the more famous meteorologists who's a TV guy now, going on and on about what a bunch of... that this is all untrue. What, you mean the guy who started the Weather Channel?

CHAPTER 22 / 29 Discussion

Audit the Fed Bill, Alan Grayson, Inspector General

Ron Paul's "Audit the Fed" bill (HR 1207) has gained 148 co-sponsors, moving closer to the 218 required for a vote. A viral clip features Congressman Alan Grayson questioning Federal Reserve Inspector General Elizabeth Coleman about $9 trillion in off-balance sheet obligations. Coleman's inability to explain where the money went or who received it highlights a lack of transparency within the central bank.

ron paul· audit the fed· alan grayson· federal reserve· elizabeth coleman

57:36 Yeah, that guy. John, do I have to go and pull the show where I played that? Don't you remember we played the whole interview where he's like, this is such a horseshit. You couldn't have played the whole thing, it's about 20 minutes. True, I played the relevant bits. Or maybe I played on Daily Source Code, I can't remember. I don't think you played on our show. Yeah, you're right. So you're the one that should have the horn honked. Where is it in a world? Oh, no, that's not it. That's all right. Missed it. Yeah, maybe this one. No, not that one No, no, sorry. I can't help you that saved by the bill I got a hookup out sound effect machine to this thing on my side. This is ridiculous Ron Paul's Audit the Fed bill HR 1207 now has 148 co-sponsors we're getting closer

58:23 Yeah, getting close. Now what was my prediction on this? It's not gonna happen. Yeah, you said it, but we need 218 to have to have it pass. So the Senate has to deal with it. Well, yeah, but I mean step by step baby steps baby steps and there was a just a beautiful and this is in the show notes. You have to listen to this. I'd love to play a couple of clips from this John. This is let me where the hell is it yeah it's the clip is called who is minding the store at the Fed and this is let me just open it up this is from from Congress this is Alan Grayson

59:05 asking the Federal Reserve Inspector General about the trillions of dollars lent or spent by the Federal Reserve, where it went, and the trillions of off-balance sheet obligations. Now, the whole thing is about five and a half minutes, but just to hear... I just got to play a little bit of it so you can hear what is... how crazy... obviously, they're not answering anything. Inspector Coleman, Chief of the Inspector General for the Federal Reserve, right? It's what we call dead air. You can't hear this? No. You're not hearing anything? No, I'm not hearing anything. How is that possible? I hear it. Well, I'm just telling you. I heard all the... Hold on a second. All the other sound effects you did fine, but this is like you're putting this through some other system. No, it's going through exactly the same system. Let me see if I... I don't hear a thing. Yeah, well hold... Well, it's not playing right now. Hold on. Oh shit, you're right. Aw crap. Well, it's no fun then if you can't hear it.

1:00:08 I heard the Joyce Bayhard thing. Yeah, the Joy Bay. Let me just see. Why is this happening to me? Hold on. Is it even going through the... Is it being recorded? Let me see. Oh, I can't believe you're not hearing that. I'm hearing nothing. Alright, we'll put it up for next week. Yeah, I'm sorry. I don't know what's wrong here. But he literally says, okay, so there's $9 trillion of off-balance sheet obligations. Can you please tell us where that money went? And she just won't answer the question. She's like, well, you know, it's a part of our review. A review of ten trillion dollars? A review? No, we're not, it's not an investigation. It's a process we call a review. And so where did that money go? Well, as part of our review, it's just, you have to watch this clip. It will freak you out. Okay, we'll make a link to it and we'll talk about it next show. Yeah, I'm sorry. Meanwhile, something we were supposed to talk about this show, which I wanted to talk about last time,

CHAPTER 23 / 29 Discussion

Marijuana Legalization, California Budget Deficit

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has signaled an openness to discussing the legalization and taxation of marijuana to address California's $42 billion budget deficit. Proponents argue that legalization could generate $1 billion in tax revenue and save billions more by reducing the prison population. However, skeptics believe the "military-industrial-prison complex" will block reform because private prisons profit from high incarceration rates.

marijuana legalization· arnold schwarzenegger· california· tax revenue· prison system

1:01:13 Okay. Apparently Arnold Schwarzenegger opened the door to legalizing marijuana in the state of California by saying it should be discussed. Well you said that last show. Yeah, I said last show that we're going to talk about it on this show. So what's there to talk about? What's there to talk about is some numbers if you start looking at them because people have this interesting argument like well, you know, it's not going to really do the state much good because you're going to tax marijuana because the idea is to tax it, right? It's the tax marijuana, it's not gonna really do that much because people are just gonna grow it themselves. And I'm thinking, well, how many people grow their own tomatoes? In fact, how many people grow their own food? They don't do that. I mean, some people aren't interested. And how many people, in the olden days of the pot smoking in California, and by the way, we have a good piece of artwork for this topic. Yeah, we do. The pot smoking, most people buy their pot, they don't grow it.

1:02:12 I don't know. You're reliably informed on this, huh? Seems to me. So anyway, I was looking at the numbers. So I'm looking at the numbers and in fact, you know, the most they could expect to get, even though it's nothing to sneeze at, which is about the amount of tax they get from tobacco in California, which is a billion dollars. But the fact of the matter is we still have something like We have something like 45,000 people in jail for drug-related offenses, which costs taxpayers between $35,000 and $70,000 a year. Right, and we're talking about at least $2 billion, and this is from 1999 figures by the way, in savings, plus the billion in taxation brings it to $3 billion. And then if you start to look at the ancillary stuff, which in other words, what is law enforcement, what is the price of law enforcement over this stuff? We're talking about another couple billion.

1:03:06 and you end up with something like six billion. Well, but don't you see John, that's exactly why it's taking place. That's exactly why it's never going to go away because all of these, all of these prisons, marijuana and decriminalized drug uses, which is different than legalizing by the way, we in the year 2000 California wouldn't have this huge deficit. Something I think is 60, 40 to 42 billion in the hole right now. Uh, we would be up About 20 billion dollars and we can fix these potholes on the San Francisco Golden Gate Bridge. Yeah, but it's part of the military-industrial complex. This is exactly why it's still taking place because these are commercial prisons. They get money per head, per person that they have incarcerated. It's exactly that reason why it will never be legalized because it's way too big in the scheme of the evil Uberlords who control us with their military police state. They can control us all we want but we're 42

1:04:05 billion dollars in the hole in the state of california with a ten percent personal income tax the public can't put up with this crap any longer even though there's some uberlords or whatever they are doing the prison system we don't need all these drug users in jail at forty to seventy thousand dollars a person that we're paying for. We need all these drug users working for the government that's a much better plan Well, I'd rather have them working for the government for $40,000 a year than paying $40,000 just to feed them. It's ridiculous. Did you see the unemployment numbers that came out? $600,000. It seems like every month it's $500,000 to $700,000 more new unemployed. What happened to the save or create bit?

CHAPTER 24 / 29 Discussion

Obama Administration Policies, Enhanced Interrogation Techniques

The Obama administration faces criticism for failing to close Guantanamo Bay and continuing Bush-era wiretapping policies. Attorney General Eric Holder's hearings regarding "enhanced interrogation techniques" (EITs) like waterboarding have implicated Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who claims she was misled about the legality of the practices. The hosts point out the irony of debating interrogation methods while the military continues lethal combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

barack obama· guantanamo bay· nancy pelosi· waterboarding· eric holder

1:04:47 They've saved it would have been a million. All right. Okay. I'm sorry. I should have known they've saved 500,000 jobs there was a sector that grew by 150,000 jobs Government yes exactly Yeah, exactly Anyway, so Schwarzenegger at least has let the door open. There's a big movement in California to do this by the way. It's not gonna happen. Just as you are so sure about HR 1207, this will never, it'll never be legalized. It'll never be decriminalized. It's just not gonna happen. And what ever happened to Obama's promise that they were going to stop harassing these people that have the legal marijuana joints, you know, for medical purposes? Well there's a lot of promises man. I mean this whole, it's kind of slipping under the radar but, you know, Guantanamo Bay is not closed. Okay, we know that on day two there was the big, there was the big, whoo, this is the first thing I'm going to do, I'm going to close Gitmo baby!

1:05:43 And it's not closed and in fact the debate is now once again raging because, well you know, where are we going to send these people? We have nowhere to send them. It's like a hundred guys, you know. A hundred. A hundred guys. What is the big deal? You can incarcerate 45,000 people who are using, who use drugs. But so, and it looks like It looks like this is just me a throwback to the Bush administration. It's starting to look more like Bush 2. It sure is. Bush 3 you mean. It sure does. Yeah, I guess it is Bush 3. In so many things. You know the same for the wiretapping. You know. Have you seen any of these Eric Holder hearings with the Attorney General essentially about prosecuting

1:06:37 the Bush administration officials for sanctioning waterboarding and other EITs, enhanced interrogation techniques. I like the way they're sneaking that one in. Oh man. I think they should. Well of course they should. But what gets me, and this hit me on the plane, is like, just before I left I was watching this and then of course the question is did Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House, did she know that these enhanced interrogation techniques at waterboarding were being used and she said oh no i was only told that uh... there was a legal opinion of course thank you lawyers of the world there was a legal opinion that uh... it was not actually torture and that's what she was briefed on but everyone knows that of course of course she knew was going on but what kills me is

1:07:25 that we have these huge discussions about simulating drowning on someone. Not a nice practice, throwing caterpillars into confined spaces with people who freak out over it. Not a nice practice. But at the same time, you do realize that we are killing each other. There are people shooting bullets at each other. And tanks and blowing up people from helicopters. That is not a discussion. Oh, that's all fair. No, that's okay. The irony of it just goes beyond me. I was talking to the guy who made my omelet the last day I left at the hotel. Frank. Frank. And he says, man,

CHAPTER 25 / 29 Discussion

Personal Health Goals, Quitting Tobacco

A host announces a commitment to quitting tobacco and starting a gym routine following a recent bout of illness. The discussion clarifies that their support for marijuana legalization is based on fiscal practicality rather than personal advocacy for drug use. Plans are made for a month-long stay in San Francisco in June, requiring a more permanent hardware setup for future broadcasts.

health· tobacco· marijuana· gym· san francisco

1:08:07 Frank making my omelet. I don't know how he got into it, but he said man, you know this we got these guys over there and in Iraq and Afghanistan and just blow 30 people up. We can't win a war like that. That's not fair. They're not playing fair. It's just like sounds like the flip the omelet Frank. Just flip it for me. We baby. It's not fair. So back to the marijuana topic just for a second. My son asked me says so why you do what is this legalized marijuana thing? You got it. Is that because of Adam? And I want to make it clear that it's not. It's because of the taxes and the stupidity. I do not advocate anybody using drugs and I in fact excoriate you constantly for smoking tobacco. I'll have you know I have not smoked marijuana for the past five days. And if anybody out there would notice, it doesn't seem to make any difference with you. Exactly.

1:09:05 So, but you're still smoking tobacco. Very little actually. Anyway, the point is that no, this is just a practical matter. I'm sick and tired of it. I'm sick and tired of myself. I'm sick and tired of being unhealthy. I'm going to the gym starting Tuesday. My daughter is committed to drag me in two times a week. Hey, hey baby, getting my guns. Oh yeah, baby, look out. No, I'm tired of it, John. After that bout with swine flu, I'm like, I gotta stop this shit. I gotta stop smoking. I just gotta stop everything. It's just I become so unpleasant. Well, there goes your office meetings. Yeah, in the staircase. So, well, good luck with that. Well, thank you. Thank you for being so supportive. Well, I think you, you know, you've tried it before. I hope you can do it this time.

1:09:59 I can. But you know going to the gym probably does help everyone so everyone should do that. Two times a week to start off with I'm going. Then your knees give out. I'm gonna come back to San Francisco in June. I'm gonna be so pumped up baby. And I gotta get a, I'm gonna be out there for a long time. I'm gonna be out for like a month. Oh no. Uh huh. So I gotta get the setup, I gotta get a hardware setup so we don't dick around with all that stuff every single time so it just works. So you're gonna be able to stream, you think? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I gotta make sure that that's all set up. While we're at it, John, why don't we talk about... Well, let's go to... Yes. I'm sorry. No, exactly. You're right. We are the Knights of the Noah-tinda. Knights of the Noah-tinda. Knights of the Noah-tinda. And we suck. Let's talk about donations. Hi, Adam and John. I'm the one who donated $48.71.

CHAPTER 26 / 29 Discussion

Virginia Healthcare Data Theft, Insurance Coding

A hacker stole over 10 million health records from the Virginia healthcare system, demanding a $10 million ransom to prevent their release. The discussion notes that most digitized medical history consists of ICD-9 insurance codes rather than detailed doctor notes. A listener's donation of $48.71 is revealed to be a reference to the specific ICD-9 code for swine flu (487.1).

virginia· data breach· healthcare records· icd-9 codes· fbi

1:11:02 Which is the one, he doesn't want his name mentioned I don't believe. Okay. Oh, I remember this one. This was a wacky code we never ever would have gotten. Yeah. I'm a registered health information technician through the American Health Information Management Association responsible for data integrity blah blah blah. Which is kind of interesting because one of the big stories this week is somebody stole all the data from the Virginia healthcare system. Oh really? I didn't know that. Yes, some hacker, in fact I haven't seen the follow-up on this story. Maybe somebody can send me a tweet or something if there's anything new. But some guy stole 10 million records, or more than that, the states, apparently most of Virginia's health care information, and then deleted the files on the servers, and then found the backups and deleted them, and said give me $10 million or I'm putting these records into the public domain.

1:11:58 given to the highest bidder. And what exactly are these, what do these records consist of? It's like all the health care information, you know, the guy's, you know, the person's name, their health record, everything, every visit to every doctor, social security number. But it's really not going to be that exciting because as we've determined, all of this information is essentially insurance codes. Some of it. I don't know besides well. Yeah, but this is what we learned besides the demographic data Or you know about the patient. There's not actually it's not like there's hand entries by you know Dr. Spock saying well I saw this patient and this is where symptoms and this is what I prescribe know what to what do you? Yes, we do we do know this what they what's in there is one of 20,000 insurance codes and that is your medical history and

1:12:44 It's not like your GP has entered all of this data meticulously the way he would in his own notes. Which is the danger of this type of digitized healthcare being implemented by IT specialists. Well anyway, the point is he's got this stuff and he wants 10 million dollars. So... That's cool. So they're spending, so the FBI and everybody's spending all their time, wheel spinning, trying to track this guy, you know, through IP addresses, MAC addresses and whatever they can do. Good luck. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Good luck. If the guy is so bold to come out with this, you can be sure that he's either mobbed up, Russian mob or something, probably out of Bulgaria or someplace.

1:13:25 And it's got so many covers, you know, in terms of IP spoofing that they're never going to figure out who it is. So 4871. All right, here we go. You actually discussed the meaning of the number, but the next topic is just no agenda 95 blah, blah, blah. Code the code 4871 is actually 48.48. 487.1 is the ICD dash nine international classifications diseases for swine flu. Technically there are three to choose from 4870 or which is 487.0 influenza with pneumonia, 487.1 influenza with other respiratory i.e. cough or 487.8 which is influenza with other manifestations. I don't really see the difference there with the last two but anyway says every October new and modified codes are added to the code book

1:14:21 They may add a specific swine flu code by next fall. They did add code 48, this is by the way boring but I'm going to read it anyway. They did add code 488, so anyone who wants to give us 488 bucks would be good. Influenza due to the avian influenza virus after all the bird flu hysteria. Anyway. There's other ones Jerry mentions by the way like codes like 305.00 which is alcohol intoxication slash abuse. Do we have... I didn't know about this international classification. No, it's a standard. This is probably the stuff that was stolen by this guy in Virginia. Yeah, so what's it the same thing? Yes, insurance codes. 635.9 could reveal an elective abortion. 295.90 could reveal schizophrenia. Oh, before I want to... Do we have any donations or we just move on? Is there anything worth mentioning or people not giving us any money anymore? Is it all over? It's just done. Are we toast?

CHAPTER 27 / 29 Discussion

Tourette's Syndrome, Seth MacFarlane, Personal Experience

A host discusses living with a mild form of Tourette's Syndrome and how marijuana helps manage the associated tics and OCD symptoms. The segment references Family Guy creator Seth MacFarlane's appearance on Bill Maher's show, where his own Tourette's tics were visible. The conversation explores the nature of the syndrome, including the rare "coprolalia" (involuntary swearing) and the ability to suppress tics while performing on camera.

tourette's syndrome· seth macfarlane· ocd· marijuana· bill maher

1:15:22 We'll go through the specific people next Thursday, but I would advise people to please donate. Please donate. What I saw Thursday night relates, or Friday night I guess, relates to this because one of the main reasons I like marijuana is because it appears to help against my mild form of Tourette's syndrome, interestingly enough. Yes, and by the way, I think that Tourette's Syndrome that you have is responsible for your occasional outbursts. Oh, you know what? If you do an MRI of my brain, the...

1:16:02 The tics and twitches are related to firing of synapses in the brain. It's coordinated, it's all built in. It could totally have something to do with that. I don't know, it's a weird disease and no one can do anything about it. At least I'm not... Well, in fact, I am saying a lot of nasty swear words as well, but I don't do it in the supermarket, typically. Now, one of the things that I saw, there was a really good Tourette's special on PBS some years ago that I watched. And it was interesting because the number of people who just sit around cussing all the time with Tourette's is very low. It's very few. Very low, yeah. One in a couple hundred. But they are the funniest. They're the most fun to hang out with. I was actually on an airplane with one of them who came on. I love this dude. Hey, cocksucker! Yeah.

1:16:45 Yeah, I know they took the guy comes I knew something was amiss when he started coming on the plane to begin with because for one thing he had a rolly bag but he had the thing turned around backwards so the wheels were not making contact they were just dragging along. And he was cussing. And so I said, ah, but I already seen the special and he had the twitches. And so he sits down, he was in first class. And he sits down and he starts cussing as people come on the plane because he got on early. So as people go by, he goes, son of a bitch, son of a bitch. I suffer from this, so I know what it is. What's weird about this syndrome is there's, and a lot of people will have like guttural, I've obviously studied this, people make guttural sounds and really weird things, and what it is is you know that you're going to twitch or you know that you're going to make some kind of sound or

1:17:45 And it wells up and you obviously can't stop it, although I have a very uncanny knack of being able to stop it when I'm on camera. I don't know why. Um, but it is certain types of sounds and words. Why this is why cocksucker is, is you'll hear that a lot with Tourette patients. I don't think son of a bitch is one they use a lot. Are you sure you said son of a bitch? No, he may have been cussing some other way. All I know is he was cussing. You know how nice it is to say fuck? You know, it's like, and a cocksucker. Yeah, it could have been that. Whatever the case was, it was, it was, I recognized what it was and I was amused by it because I, because it's amusing. It's just amusing. It's very amusing. But the guy got kicked off the plane. They finally took him off.

1:18:26 So, on Real Time with Bill Maher, one of our favorite writers was on, Seth MacFarlane. And he has Tourette's Syndrome! He has exactly what I have! And it was really fun to watch. Because I can see it, I can see where he's trying to control it, and he's got little... My sisters would call it GIGITS, is what they'd call it. And he's got a little twitch with his head thing going on there. And I noticed it immediately, like, oh man, the guy's got Tourette. And what happens is, when he's into the vibe and he's laughing and was funny and he was on the ball and he was killing, he was really, really good. And then it really starts to happen, because now he's not paying attention to it. It's like, wow. It was good for me as a fellow sufferer. I'm like, there you go. And it's interesting to watch.

CHAPTER 28 / 29 Discussion

OCD Habits, Family History of Tourette's

The discussion on Tourette's continues with a focus on related OCD habits, such as "clean freak" tendencies and repetitive behaviors. A host shares a story from a family reunion involving a young cousin with the syndrome and mentions a family connection to writer Christopher Buckley. They reflect on the professionalism required to maintain a "clear" presence on television despite the underlying neurological condition.

ocd· tourette's· christopher buckley· family reunion· professionalism

1:19:20 It's interesting to watch someone with Tourette. They're not born. Yeah, well, it's kind of interesting. I mean, it's interesting once in a while. I mean, the cussing ones are the more interesting of the group. The clan. I mean, you basically have a couple of minor tics that no one would even notice. But it moves around. It can be in my neck. It can be in my blinking of eyes. It could be in my arm. It's really crazy. It's crazy. But then once you go into a fit of rage for a very short time, which I think is somehow related. Now, um, the one thing that was in this special, which I've always found the most fascinating about the Tourette's sufferers, is that they're all apparently, except, and you kind of deny being this way, clean freaks. No, I'm not a clean freak. I'm not. Well, you, but I don't know that you're not. Because I'd admit it if I was. I'm not. Not necessarily. What are you trying to say? I think you might be a clean freak. Really? You keep your desk rather clean. No, because I never do anything at it.

1:20:25 Well, I can others Maggie keeps it clean Maggie's the one who cleans his shit up. I never to clean anything I wind up making their joint filters out of the papers retired in a very clean freakish way I what? I'll have to think about this. No, I'm not a clean freak. I'm not a clean freak. I'm not. Yeah, I know, but most like clean. Cocksucker, cocksucker, I'm not a clean, clean, clean freak. Anyway, so they had all these Tourette's guys and they would have them. They would they had a lot of elements of OCD. Yes. Although they didn't have OCD. They were just. No, I do have OCD. I totally have OCD. Well, there you have it. Like touching the light. I used to

1:21:06 There are all kinds of little habits, you know, that it's like not stepping. I've never been that severe, like not stepping on the cracks in the pavement, but that's a very, very common form of it. So yeah, I totally have OCD, but that's gotten better. And the whole thing has gotten better mainly because of marijuana. What can I tell you? I love this stuff. It really calms me down. It makes me feel good about myself. But I've come to terms with it. Just talking about it really helps. It was a huge problem when I was a kid. It was like, you know, it was the was it diagnosed properly when you were younger? Well, what do you mean properly?

1:21:47 Well, did someone say this kid's got Tourette's. You're gonna have the time of your life watching him. Yeah. Get him a TV show. This is cool. Yeah, and there's a... well, my dad had it or still has it. And interestingly, my cousin has it, who's just a sweet kid, brilliant kid. And when we had the family reunion, and I didn't know this, my cousin came up to me. So my first cousin, it's her son. Yeah, so he would be my nephew right yeah, so my cousin Lucy comes at Lucy by the way She was the one that was married to Christopher Buckley Christopher Buckley You know she's not whole Washington clan and Christopher Buckley. Yeah, the right lane. She's married to him. She was their divorce now Yeah, you used to hang out with the book. You know I wonder if she's in the book. Oh is it like a biography type thing oh?

1:22:44 Well, it's mostly about his dad and mom, but probably has something there. She might be. I think Connor... I guess Connor's their kid. I think so. That I don't know because... I think so. Well, anyway. So he has... and she came up to me and said, you know, it would be so cool if you could just, you know, chat with him a little bit and let him know that it's okay. Because, you know, it's tough. He's like eight or nine years old. You know, it's weird because you're a freak, essentially. Because you're not normal. I guess. I mean, I don't know that... I mean, if you didn't mention it to me, I probably would have never picked up on it. Really? Yeah. Really.

1:23:27 It's so mild, it's like ridiculously mild. I mean, just like a couple of little twitches that could come from anything. And you know, you're maybe a little OCD but it's not really noticeable. And a lot of people are clean freaks so that doesn't mean much. Well of course the times when we see each other I'm usually baked so that would explain it. Could be that could be it, but it's just to me. It's not real noticeable But I'm not perhaps the most observant person when it comes to these kinds of things where I'm always looking for that guy hmm wonder what syndrome he's got and looks like he's yet a you know CD and he's manic-depressive and he's a bipolar and he's this and he's that you know just doesn't care

1:24:18 Well anyway, that's why it was so interesting when I got tapped to do a TV show when I was 19. I was like, oh my god, this is the last thing I need. Like, I'm gonna be on TV and be like a fucking Twitch bot. And somehow I learned to control it without drugs, by the way. I can do segments and I can do shows and interviews and there's nothing and then the camera goes off and then it's back. Yeah, well that probably triggers something, a performance gene or something gets triggered and shuts all that stuff off. I know that when I go on camera, I could be coughing and wheezing or have a cold and I'm clear as a bell. I never cough or choke up on the camera. And then when it's over, I start coughing again or whatever if I happen to be sick at the time. I don't know, it's just something. It's professionalism my friend, that's what we call that.

CHAPTER 29 / 29 Discussion

Show Outro, Donation Requests, UK Tax Hikes

The show concludes with a request for listener donations via Dvorak.org to support the upcoming website and live stream improvements. Final news items include the deteriorating situation in Pakistan and a new 50% tax rate in the United Kingdom for individuals earning over £150,000. The hosts sign off from their respective locations in London and Silicon Valley.

donations· squarespace· pakistan· gordon brown· tax increase

1:25:03 And I want people to go to Dvorak.org and give us a hand. We'll mention your name this coming Thursday. Please, $50 or $100 would be good. And a $24 subscription would be good. And even $2 a month, we don't care. Yeah, you know, I need medical help. I need medical attention. It's going to cost me an arm and a leg. People always ask what we're going to do with the money. Have we spent a single dime of that money yet? Not that I know of. What do you mean? Hold on, you're the one controlling the purse strings. Are you sure? We actually have a little pot full of money still. We haven't done jack shit with it. We have to do a website. We got a website we're working on. We're doing it in one of these Squarespace ones. Yeah, people will believe that when they see it.

1:25:44 Well, I'm gonna call these guys up this week and say hey, where's our you know? Cuz it's some people developing it for us and see how far along they've gotten okay groovy groovy Devorah org slash na please go there. Yeah, and So I'm back now, so I'll be able to work a little bit on our no agenda stream which I've completely neglected We have the IRC channel which will be implementing hopefully this week which is cool one of our producers set that up and Have a new interlude a new interlude. Oh, yeah, do you have it ready to go can I put it on? Yes, I just I can't my FTP my FTP site seems to have Blocked me for some reason. I don't know why but I'm not to get that fixed also. We got an interesting 500 rupees from someone I want to talk about rupees through PayPal

1:26:34 No, he sent me a 500 rupee bill. Oh, okay cool pranav Parikh He wants me to read his letter in that Indian accent. I do okay cool really an Indian guy asked you to do that Yeah, he says it's hilarious That's cool. I like it. I like it. Yeah, I know if I'm getting I haven't been able to get into that voice much recently I don't know why practice comes and goes it comes and goes practice. Are you on twit today? No, I'm not. I'm getting my sons in town. I were going off to do some stuff. Okay cool Alright, I'm gonna go read my the rest of my Anne Rand novel Don't do that Be happy the children today are reading damn it. No gender library. No gender library exactly alright I was a bit over the map today John, but I'm I'm so jet-lagged

1:27:26 It was a fast show. Yeah, rocking. But we missed a lot of big stuff that's happening in the world. This whole thing in Pakistan is just spinning out of control. Obama, I don't know if you saw him with Karzai of Afghanistan, they were in Turkey. Obama's going to address the Islamic world and he didn't show up at prayer day. There's so many things going on. Well, we'll get back to it not to mention that in the United Kingdom They've figured out how to make up for all the deficit spending they're doing can you guess can you guess? People many people people making over 150,000 pounds will now be taxed at a 50% rate 50 50 percent half your money goes to the government who are watching porn movies with their husbands I feel good. I feel groovy

1:28:24 Yeah, they're using your money to watch porn. Yeah. Coming to you from the Crackpot Command Center located in the southwestern quadrant of Gitmo Nation East, better known as the United Kingdom, my name is Adam Curry. And from the Buzzkill bunker here in northern Silicon Valley where it's beautiful today, I'm John C. Dvorak. We will talk to you again on Thursday, right here, on No Agenda.