Dvorak Wears Prada

00:01 Okay, we're good to go. I have not written an intro which is probably best. Adam Curry John C Dvorak Somehow that didn't sound right did it sound weird to you? Nope It sounded like hold on something's wrong. Hold on Quit that it was so good No, it didn't well for me it did yeah Well, it was subtle but I could hear it was a digital it was like down sampled Oh, okay. Let's try that again... Adam Curry! John C. Dvorak! Aw man I can't- Fuck. That's still not right hold on oh i know what it is there we go that's what was missing now it should work

01:02 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's raining in San Francisco better known as Gitmo Nation Northwest it is Sunday time for another show This is no agenda Coming to you from my undisclosed secret location In Gitmo Nation Northwest the backup crackpot command center I'm Adam Curry And from the same rainy, gloomy somewhat depressing gray Northern California I'm John C. Dvorak. Hey John, it's good to have you back in my time zone my friend. Yeah well I had a long trip we went to...I'm going put a restaurant review thing and we went to probably half the country and went through all these lunch and dinner at most of the high-end restaurants in Holland Oh geez man excellent

02:09 And, I discovered that there's obviously one or two consultants that are dominating the scene because you go to 1-2-3-4-5 places and you run into the same kind of formula from place after...I mean we're talking about good places. The food is good but the formula gets really depressing. It's all black and white is basically what it is. The theme, the white tablecloths with white platters and white dishes everything is white. If you flip them over, they're all villary and bosh. That's the same people who make the toilets! One place did have wedgewood but it was still white. And then they have the same routine of this and that, and I'm going to write it up actually as a review of all these restaurants because I found it distressing. They're expensive! There's a bunch of Bentleys parked out in front, Ferraris, these kinds of things at all these places...and you go there and it's just like gee, this is like a cookie cutter

03:07 and i mean in the fact that to the point where we're talking about like fourteen places of this caliber and they all use the exact same sweeper for sweeping the uh... grounds at the top tablecloth yeah exactly the same brand and in everybody had the same one it was a little thing is swept in and you held it up vertically and then tapped if you don't see me ashes went into the handle on over this but this is a very dutch thing um... the used to be fresh trees And it was kind of like an ashtray with a lid on the handle. Is that what you're talking about? No, no this is just one of those little scrapers... crumb scrapers only it's got a hollow handle and there were two sizes By the time we go to restaurant 14 or 15 we were taking bets on what size they are going to bring out So wait a minute You weren't even there for I mean you didn't have dinner at all these places you weren't there for fourteen dinners

04:06 No, I'm talking about dinner and lunch. So we hit him for lunch and then dinner so i was there for like 14 meals. You got the names? Can you just give me a couple of names just so they know what you're going to review? They're not on this machine... Do you remember any of them? One name. The names are all so Dutch, I can't remember any of them! I have to look at the name... There wasn't one name like the Chateau No it's not a very Dutch word It's like these dutch names and you look at him now in fact i'm gonna have to get back because the guy I went with he put up a google map showing where this place is already didn't realize how far flung they were Oh excellent

04:43 But I looked at all of them today and now i'm gonna have to find out what the order was because I can remember the restaurants by the order, but I can't remember uh The names when I look at these names. It's like oh god And well here's another thing they all did every one of them is a member of some club And these restaurant gourmet clubs and it's like the Young Chefs of Holland is one of the clubs, only it's in Dutch of course. These different restaurants are in two or three of these different clubs and actually one of the places that I went to when I opened up the book that was when I first saw the formula for black-and-white and because all the restaurants, they had pictures of all the interiors. I'm getting this looks like the same place! But anyway, the thing is that the classic is you go into a restaurant and then they laid out the table and there's The Book on the table. And it's their club. So you look through and see all these other restaurants are all like-minded. Just just like just just like the one you're in? Yeah, and its... You know, I found it distressing because I mean the lack of variety

05:47 And even the food was served the same kind of, it's very I hate to tell it would be too critical but this is very much like dead Nouvelle cuisine style. The food pushed up vertically so it's high which is come on that went out 10 years ago and you know... That still considered chic in Holland? Yeah, and then dots of crap all over the place Did someone have a bloody nose over my plate or is that And then a couple of lines of stuff squirrely squirrely lines

06:24 Yeah, just give me a sauce dish dude. That'll make me feel much better And then when you get to the cheese course then none of these guys really wanted to specialize in good Dutch cheeses and I know there's better cheese than the one or two they had There was all French and I'm thinking I've come into Holland and you're getting French cheese Of course not You know, I still feel bad that it all messed up and that I was out here and you're out there but I think you probably got...you saw much more of the country than you ever would have seen with me to start with. Yeah, well I was being hosted so i got to see a lot and um and I went all over when you see the map you go guys it's like you were just on the road all this because Holland is not very big I think you can go corner-to-corner in like an hour and something no two hours okay So one of the things they did see though that I was kind of impressed with since I went out to the windmill farms

07:12 and where they have the power. I actually went to the old-fashioned windmill. Do you remember which? Because there are a couple of windmill farms, do you remember which one? The one that's pretty north to the west. Lelystad perhaps? Maybe could be it's on the map There is a lot of them! I'll send you copy of the map so you can figure out where it went an tell me What's what? So yeah, there are a lot of these windmill things. You can see them when you're flying over and actually I got some pictures from the hotel room of Amsterdam shooting out over the water and then you can see in the background a slew of these things And these are all third generation fourth generation windmills and they're fantastic Yeah but in general I find these farms to be pretty ugly It's not an attractive area where this things are located anyway it's windblown The thing is apparently that bird lovers

08:00 You know, we went and looked at a couple of the big ones. And the bird lovers are moaning about killing all these birds... Yeah they hate them. ...and somebody points out that cats in Holland kill three times as many birds as the windmill so we should ban cats! Each of these windmills actually started as a big scam and I'm not against the idea of wind power. I just don't think that it delivers enough actual energy for us to make sense These windmills are pretty expensive. You know, some of them... A million dollars! Yeah exactly some of these really big ones and every single one of them is its own financial entity

08:39 It's apparently a farmer who has the land to put a windmill, but if he can afford to put the million for a windmill, he is retired. Yeah and but there is also it's an investment vehicle because you get all these tax breaks and they were ministers of parliament who are in all these companies basically each windmills its own corporation yeah and was that big scandal big scam it's really not that hard understand what she see what's going on I don't know if they deliver the energy or no I had the father of modern wind power on my show years ago when i did real computing and public radio. And he convinced me that we are doing just not only a good idea, especially the new third generation windmills which we don't have any other in United States except you know one maybe one or two He said that uh... The state of North Dakota could power the entire US grid by itself with wind

09:33 That's kind of what Slim... is that his name? Boone, Slim Pickens. Boone Pickens. Boone Pickens, Slim Pickens. Slim Pickens. Yeehaw! Wind power everybody! Well actually it was kind of the same guy. No that's what he saying. He saying the exact same thing, that could power and you know did you read we discovered this huge massive natural gas field in United States? This was in a news like couple days ago Where Let me look it up. It was enough to give us energy through 2050 or something like that. There's also a huge oil field under North Dakota where the wind is apparently the size of the Saudi Arabia oil fields. That's unbelievable and, and of course this wasn't actual news that got really got reported let me see... No nobody wants to talk about oil

10:25 Well no, this was natural gas here. I mean you don't want to talk about anything that burns because of the CO2 carbon footprint Here check it out This is from Wall Street Journal a massive natural gas discovery in northern Louisiana heralds A big shift in the nation's energy landscape after an era of decline What's an era? How long as an era? a period time Well, good reporting Wall Street Journal. Too lazy to fucking look it up? After a period of time of declining production the US is now swimming... swimming says the Wall Street Journal in natural gas. Swimming 200 trillion cubic feet of natural gas equivalent of 33 billion barrels of oil or 18 years worth of current U.S. oil production and

11:16 I think we should use some of that. Don't we want to reduce our dependence upon foreign energy? Isn't this a perfect way to do it?" No, we don't wanna do that! We wanna just stop all energy use and use hamsters and generators... ...and live in a cave." We're getting there! Live in a cave... Oy vey... So you're in a better mood than you were last time? Well, I've done some soul searching. You were depressed on Thursday Yeah but i've done some soul searching John Oh no! Oh brother There's nothing like being in rainy San Francisco to tug at the heart strings and being in your hotel room

12:03 You know, you can't turn on the television because it's... Oh by the way I figured it out. It was so freaking obvious! I can't believe we overlooked this Do you know what last week was in the world of television? No, what? Sweeps! Oh a sweeps week yeah So no wonder swine flu hit the top of the charts Of course Sweep, sweep swine flu. My wife pointed out the fact that you know if this is like a dry run to see how the public is going to react to a genuine pandemic as opposed to this bull she says it may be creating a crying wolf situation so when people actually really do have to be careful... Exactly they won't be like ahh nothing's gonna happen. Last time was bull!

12:48 In Hong Kong I saw that they quarantined hotel guests for a week. I'm like, can you imagine that? I'd be stuck in this shithole for a week! You know what the swine flu would kill people certainly one namely me two to the head I'd hang myself Quarantine Yeah. So I was at the airport, I left Amsterdam yesterday and flew through Munich and going through passport control there's a whole bunch of Japanese they're wearing masks in Holland like you know it is hot better swine flu It's all over the... anyway I flew to New York earlier this week and it was the same thing There were plenty people at the airport wearing surgical masks

13:38 Well, you know. Maybe they're surgeons? So a couple of things we want to straighten up from last week one is that we now everybody wrote us about there's two 747 Air Force Ones only one designated as such obviously when the president is on board I didn't know this I didn't know they built a duplicate and then apparently there's two reasons for the duplicate. One, half the people say well it's a decoy like what difference does it make? And the other people say well its a backup in case one craps out and has to land and Obama can get right into the next one. That makes sense that makes sense Well you know Bill Gates has 2 limos when he goes around He also has 2 windows machines im told incase 1 craps out

14:20 So, anyway so that makes a little sense. But flying those two monsters and they stock them both up to the max and fly them all over the place. It's got to be expensive, he should stay home. But when we really think about it at the end of the day this whole affair of the photo op over New York it just smells like shit I gave some thought now I got a letter from somebody that told me one of our producers sent a letter saying that his pal, who was in the building that was evacuated when things started flying over lived next door to some other rooftop and he says the military was set up there with military photographers with these huge cameras and these monster lenses

15:08 Gray lenses that you get on a sports field. Sports lenses and they were shooting like crazy so I believe it may have been a photo shoot now, so i gave some thought assuming that was the case and im thinking two things one what was the point of telling New York Police Department not to say anything to public at all? Yeah, what is the thinking behind that? Here's what I'm thinking. One thing by the way, and this is bad but I think the only possible reason was because of... Because their thing was going to be so low flying close to the Statue of Liberty that a buncha gun-happy crackpots would just take pot shots at it if they knew it was there which is a possibility you know, can drive back or fly back home and there are a bunch bullet holes in the thing You know, that'd kind of annoying

15:54 And also if it got brought down, let's say by something or other. It would be very embarrassing for the country so you don't want to alert anyone On the other hand that is probably not going to happen because people have some respect I mean the public's not completely a bunch of maniacs. Oh, and it's not like you couldn't shoot that thing out of the sky any time you wanted with a... But if you knew where it was? Yeah! The point is that they should have told the public for no other reason to give the public the opportunity for the photo op. To take some pictures thank you very much and can I just say there is one third option they could have taken It's called Photoshop, people. I mean get a freaking clue! I wrote that down too. Why don't you just photoshop? It costs like $350,000 for this joyride that could have been photoshopped for 50 bucks You know... I'm sorry John would you mind turning your speakers down just a little bit Have a drink everybody Alright Um..you're on to something very important there because if

16:55 If this truly was a fly-by photo op, which by the way typically happens at air shows because that's really the place you want to do that and that's where the military always shows its shit and the airlines or manufacturers. I mean that's the place to do it but okay forget about just giving an opportunity to the American public to take pictures, you really... I mean think about tapping into something there. If it was really true and if i were pushing the buttons and indeed there was some, oh Air Force One needs some new headshots right in the middle of all the other shit we got going on okay! I would say why don't we make this a big deal and show our pride?

17:35 that is a beautiful airplane and nothing symbolizes something much more than just you know abowing it is it is uh... in a symbol of the leader of the free world of incident it's a beautiful neutral blue blue white color scheme we've got our lovely aircraft flying around it i mean we could have made that into a big you know twenty one gun salute event it would have been fantastic So I know, they just blew it. I think they completely blew it and then this thing about Obama getting all bent out of shape...I doubt that Well this seems to be kind of Obama's MO and this is something that I'm noticing as a trend And the way it works his minions and that would be everything from let's just say all the way up to the vice president

18:23 They come out and say something completely outrageous or they kind of set him up so he can then come in and say, oh well you know... Or in the case of Air Force One he can be really pissed off. So you got Joe Biden comes out and says, well I would tell my family's staying in door. We've already got the nuclear shelter all on standby for the swine flu. And then it's like oh well of course Joe means well but it seems to be a constant thing he gets this set up, the press comes out and runs with the ball and then he comes in and says either dims it down or hypes it up depending what is necessary

19:07 Yeah, I agree with that. This is definitely going on so we went to other topics So I went to Queens day We did know that yeah you have more than I mentioned. I saw the boat sink. Yeah Okay Since I did the show on Thursday after Queens, okay. So the boat sink After before I did the show let me let me try a topic for you since you're struggling no i'm not struggling And I've got my list here yeah but your list is from last show We already know this I looked at the date of the last show I said wait a minute Did I do that show before or after Queen's Day by the way? Got a huge blister from that damned event on your what in the bottom of my foot from walking

19:53 Yeah, walking too much I guess. You don't have good shoes? I had good shoes! I have walking shoes but it must've been some irritation Maybe it was the high heels you were wearing at the party Oh no maybe The pumps... your pumps dear Your Pradas So I have on this list- I'm sorry I just got a visual of you in Pradas okay I don't even know what Pradas are so if the visual doesn't work for me Half the audience is on the floor trust me Half the audience doesn't know what Prada's is either. They have some sort of an expensive shoe Well, I think they have more than one style. No the devil wears them baby Okay, go ahead okay you'll recall when we were in the first round of Certification is not the word affirmation of You know cabinet members it what do you call that?

20:56 Congress has to approve them? Yeah. What is that, is it affirmation no I don't know go ahead with the story though okay we don't need the term okay so by the way the um... now really spacing our brand new uh... well you like the way you jumped in yeah sorry about that well let me back up So we were trying to get that guy into be a Jesus John I'm completely spacing This was about the... Help me along here. Do you remember the consensus that the consensus which is going to be held in I guess 2010 or starting now, that was moved into The White House and that's the reason why they couldn't confirm the confirmation? That's a confirmation here. And then we didn't just... It's funny how you get hung up on something like terminology and then it just takes you off track. Yeah no it blows everything. I wonder how that works with you. Lack of brain cells

21:52 So who was the guy that we tried to get in as it was a Republican? Remember? Yeah, I can't remember who it was but yeah he didn't he couldn't do it because he didn't like the model. He didn't like the model of the census so what the census is extremely important and even in the Constitution I believe that says a census will be taken but its not supposed to be supervised by the White House you know I presume thats supposed to be something Congress sets up and thats all on the up-and-up when you take the census which is essentially finding out who lives in the United States of America and what are the questions John? Age, religion race creed I mean whatever the basis. Yeah how many people live in a house and stuff like that yeah somebody come by the house the other day told you this well interesting

22:47 that's a door yeah some little woman she says uh... just single-family dwelling because big house as it yet okay and left now did she have a box in her hand you should report because apparently acorn are good old friends from acorn have been conducting parts of the census and they're doing it with handheld gps devices so they're actually marking every dwelling with GPS coordinates and of course, is there also political data they take? Do they say are you Republican or Democrat. No I've never heard that. But i find that interesting so they're kind of doing their own like Google Maps thing except they're literally mapping out down to the... They don't really have to do that because they can get from the registration data which is public. Then why are they doing it

23:40 I don't know anyone's ever asked Republican or Democrat. No, no i'm sorry why are they going around with handheld GPS devices? Probably to mark your place in case the black helicopters have to take your place out Hey John if you're gonna start stealing my lines then we might as well just stop right now You gotta be faster than this But I find that somewhat disconcerting I doesn't you know this take it do that. We mean, it's just if this the new way It's just a way is gonna be yeah Well, what's the combination with acorn that irks me? I guess cuz you know III haven't heard much good about those guys Well, I don't know him by me actually I mean yeah, I haven't either they seem kind of there some corrupt aspect to it So we got a letter You're done on that subject

24:30 I'm sorry it doesn't interest you. It's really not, because they can do this anyway. I don't see somebody coming to the house and clicking a button. They could just drive by and do it. Click click click is close enough. The damn GPS thing is only good 10 feet away. Okay. It's not one that does the millimeter stuff. Okay. You've convinced me. This from John Henry. On Thursday's No Agenda, you told how Marcos was told that Tamiflu prescriptions need to be approved by the CDC. You asked anyone with knowledge to write and by the way nobody wrote Well, I guess nobody from the CDC listens to us. Not yet! I don't have any knowledge but do you have an anecdote? In 2004 or 2005, I spoke at a pharmaceutical conference one of the other speakers was the regional director for Food and Drug Administration. And I sat in on his presentation one of things he spoke about briefly was a new program to monitor sales of certain medications in drug stores The one that specifically remember was Imodium which is over-the counter anti diarrhoea drug

25:32 Diarrheal. Ammodium AD, anti-diarrheal. The way it works is that the pharmacy's point of sale system routinely collects information on every product sold they do this for inventory or whatever For certain drugs such as Imodium, the information is also sent to the CDC. The CDC automatically monitors the information and knows that in Port Angeles for example 100 bottles a week are normally sold as long it's around the baseline nothing happens but then all of sudden there is spike in Imodium sales It will kick out an alarm which could be indicator food poisoning or some other problem. The CDC then contacts hospitals and medical providers investigate further

26:09 I thought that was, you know interesting. That's not bad well it's kind of an indicator yeah sounds right i'm not against that as long as they're not connecting it to me who is taking a shit he says there's no connection to the individual okay good hey cut off Curry's toilet paper we'll smoke him out He's quite... you okay? You gonna make it through the night? Geez. I actually, um, wanted to ask you something on a quite serious note and I decided to ask it in this program Sure Because in a way its an admission and some rescinding somewhat Could you hook me up with some Tamiflu

26:50 Hi my doctor is uh, no I can't because my doctors not whose next door is in Florida someplace And I don't have his other number. Well, you know You should be able to get it from well No, you have a like you got a stash Don't you hook me up with a couple pills? Come on man come on. You can't do that You have to have a full prescription or doesn't do anything brother. I need some I need some time the flu ma'am There's a doctor in the audience that lives around San Francisco Bay Area then all of you Tamiflu will send email to adam at media dot com you can walk into his office and get your prescription good it's not it's not really for me but I'm a I am well you know my you know my my take on everything but I'm I'm really worried about my girls

27:34 So the thing, the interesting thing is you should be able to get it in England. By the way, Roland's is also... But its not that simple because there are.. You can't get it and the way the national health system If you have a good doctor A private one They should be able to get your prescription We have socialized medicine You know, come on. There's a way around everything. Yeah! My way around everything is to ask my friend John that's exactly what I was doing. If could...I would. I mean just do it tomorrow and get your prescription for two rounds Now, the thing is that although now it's kind of scarce because everybody's freaked out over swine flu. So now is not the time. It seems like bad timing but nothing's going to happen anyway... I know but even as the placebo effect because you know I talked with my daughter and my wife's in Holland she's doing her show at home and said daddy I have a sore throat

28:29 Yeah, well flu doesn't cause a sore throat usually. But if you read the news reports it's like sore throat fever vomiting! If I start vomiting will have swine flu? You know the kids fucking freaked out man about the way they've... I know they've scared the public to death and then not only that but there is like They evacuated her school! My kid's school, it's fucking ridiculous. She's on a five-day bank holiday now because well you know there might be swine flu in Guilford yeah likelihood zero so the around here all the Asians

29:04 are freaked out and they've all got swine flu because they woke up with, you know like the thermostat's up too hot in a house next thing you know you think you've got swine flu. Yeah, you're just sweating like a pig It's pathetic I mean anyone who has ever had the flu which is most people You know what the symptoms are? You can wait until actually have a confirmation symptom. You don't want to start wasting this stuff at $100 a pop And you wait for the point where you show some real flu symptoms, which usually is a pretty bad fever. Then you take it and jeez! Anyway... So anyway I got a bunch of flack on Twitter and elsewhere that people like Dvorak are part of the problem because we need this swine flu. Agreed! I don't know what it's about but yeah

29:49 We need the Tamiflu for emergencies. We don't need it for just people having it just in case, which is bull! In fact one pharmacist twittered me that it was like you know probably not a bad idea if you're traveling a lot to have one round of dosage on your suitcase just in case because I'm in Holland and I'm supposed to get a doctor to give me a prescription? You can't even get antibiotics easily in Holland You can't. I mean, you have to get a referral notice. Oh and you're absolutely right! Yeah, I think you're right to travel with some kind of...I used to have Tamiflu because it was given to me once when i had severe

30:27 I think i had a urinary tract infection or something. Is it used for that? No, It's only used for the flu! That's why it's called Tamiflu Well then why did the doctor give it to me? They probably just...to rack up the bill. I don't know what...it doesn't sound right Yeah you're probably right Just to rack up the bill Not specifically an antiviral for influenza Maybe they do something else Well I had it and maybe because he thought I had the flu but I had Tamiflu it and I used you know one of the doses whatever and then it basically expired night tossed them out because it was years ago. But yeah, you should have something like that around. You have to use the whole thing. I mean, I've explained before how this stuff works and not going to explain again are you familiar with the Tavis Smiley show? Well, I can't stand watching him

31:23 I've never seen this before. It's on PBS, I believe right? Yes yes. Who is Tyler Smiley? He has that style of old-fashioned broadcaster style and he has got this kind of self... it's a weird affectation style of speaking that just bugs me So you can imagine and this is a... By the way, I heard him give public speech once. He was quite good but I hate his show Well well you can imagine when he had Prince on his show That was just of course one big super love fest. I think they're actually privately that seems like they're like they're good friends So I was amazed because first of all, um, I am If i'm a fan of any artist it's prince for a number of reasons But of course it starts with the music. I actually schlep around throughout my entire life uh, My at my vinyl collection consists of like eight prints records

32:14 So I was like wow, Prince is doing an interview and he was really calm and cool and collected. He wasn't speaking in his artist voice. He was dressed and talking like a businessman. And I'm watching the show and he said some very interesting things about the record industry, you know that's why he has been so pissed off. He is like I still don't know how many copies Purple Rain sold. Like we got so fucked, I got so screwed by the mainstream music industry which of course was why he stepped out but then he said... ...He went on about chemtrails

33:00 No! And it blew me away, John. Actually I think I have a piece of audio... Let me just see if it might be a little bit further on Can you hear that? Yeah That's digging here smiley mumble mouth style It's a poor recording let me see if I can get this chemtrail bit Oh my god. feed the direct feed from the United Nations you'd hear them talk a lot about religion. You would hear the Bible mentioned constantly. This is not what we're used to. Good and it's just, it's the same thing. Let me I got good news and bad news. The bad news first. Okay well fuck it let me just tell you this is second week in a row you've had bad clips yeah and this is why I can't wait until I'm back at home base because this pisses me off so anyway

34:02 He's yeah, he's he suddenly launched into chemtrails said you know when I was a kid. I used to look up at the sky And I'd see the airplanes go by and I'd see those trails and be like wow that's beautiful man That's an airplane He said and then I would see more and more of these trails and then all sudden I'd see people in my neighborhood just start fighting with each other for no reason They're just getting all pissed off and angry and said is it? I encourage everybody everybody who's watching this You've got to go find out about chemtrails because yeah man and i was like one this is what it's with people like him and you'd for that matter well he has been admitted that the government has has been uh... saturating the air through chemtrails means not like that's a secret is admitted as well we got a little bit of documents are getting the documents it's completely admitted yes sir yes but i think they put in the show notes i will so um... by the way i had to carry you know we have a paper trail of our jet coming over from munich

34:57 that because of the position of the sun, you could see it on the earth as a straight line. I have a album, I'll post it. I took a photo out the window On the next show we do which will be Thursday you're gonna eat crow my friend because I'm going to show you the documents Crow's actually not bad if it is cooked in like slow cook You are such a dick But I am not probably going to eat crow because shooting crows around here is too much work So I went to a Dutch grocery store

35:38 I'm going back to real news. You don't have any sound effects? Yeah, yeah, hold on... And now back to REAL NEWS! Turn that up. I don't think a lot of people realize that the Dutch buy these chocolate little pieces like chocolate just it's like these little pieces little bits of chocolate and they dump it on bread and eat it. Sprinkles. It's called hagelslag Yeah. Which is Dutch for hail and it's chocolate hail And there are a ton of different ones, I mean you can go to the supermarkets they have a whole section dedicated to this stuff There is milk chocolate, dark chocolate and they don't just put it on bread first they put butter on the bread so that the sprinkles stick to the bread That's a main breakfast food of champions I wonder if any other country does that because the dutch guy was with said no It says Dutch They also

36:37 uh... you from the with newtella yeah but the new teller we have that at that to me via office do people spread on bread yet well i mean some people do and then there's also so you also have the uh... the colored house law which is a solar but then you also have matches which are small round balls and they're either pink or white or blue and he's supposed to eat those honor russk which is also very dutch by the way rusks and what is it arrest is like a around Um... He said toast, isn't it? Yeah. It's like exactly. It's like round toast. Exactly. It's like Melba Toast. No! It's thicker. It's not like Melba. Melba would be more compact

37:20 And in fact, tradition in Holland if there's a new baby in the family then you go over to... they're really big on birthdays. Birthdays are huge in Holland. Oh yeah this guy was complaining bitterly about the birthdays Yeah we can get into that but if there is a new baby then you go over and have gestomte muisjes which means these little mouse kind of hail things which have been put onto these rusks and it's a boy you have blue ones and if its girl you have pink ones So, yeah I guess these traditions are interesting but the EU is going to try and destroy them all. Oh yes there will be no more Rusks. Because they're not standardized enough? Well we're gonna celebrate barcode day! I like the idea of barcode day When did you get your barcode? September 3rd 1964

38:13 John, your barcode is so old it's done in twigs. There you go! So I bought some of this real... they have this marshmallow candy that's like a twirly thing and it has colors. It's very pretty. Oh, specky? Yeah. Yeah he says! It's a... you eat it, right? It's a... It's a marshmallow. Well it's not really a marshmallow-it's kind of like a marshmallow but maybe it's triangle shape No these are long sticks that is twirly. It's so funny to hear you discover those little cultural things

38:52 There's nothing much else to do as far as I'm concerned with travel except, you're going live? No. Travel except... I need my Tamiflu. Catch some of these cultural things that are going on so he can see, it was just fascinating to me the way people do things is there was something I saw in fact they saw oh yeah this one is a good one but I don't know the name of him and you'll probably catch him and I took a photo and I'll probably post So we're driving along and the guy says, see that thing? I forgot what it's called but it looks like a huge basketball hoop only its set vertically or horizontally up straight at you. And its got a big bag like a big net on the back of it and you can drive by in your car and throw cans and bottles into as your moving.

39:36 It makes, turns it into a game. It's fun for the whole family I mean i thought this was genius because you know people throw crap out the window all of time You drive along and see one of these things and take your beer can that you got rolling around in your car And just chuck it into this thing while you're moving Here's some curry clan culture for you. It came from my grandfather when we used to go on road trips and of course back when I was a boy, you went in the car on a road trip and drove for eight hours to get somewhere for Easter weekend or whatever to see family. And in the car we were only allowed to eat apples. Of course it was like a bummer right? You know like I don't want just apples in the car but there was a catch

40:19 Because if we only ate apples, then we were allowed to throw as many apple cores at any stop sign. Which was kind of fun. Did that have to do with the... you mean you could throw it at the stop sign? Yeah! So we're allowed to eat apples but because of that whenever we stopped a stop sign we are allowed to throw all our cores at the stopsign It was funny. Yeah, it was kind of cute. The stop sign! Yeah it's like hey man there is a stop sign I got... give me another apple I want to eat another apple because I wanna throw at the stop sign and smart you know my parents were psychologists what can I tell ya

40:57 So let's see what else we got on the list here. Well just staying with the Netherlands for a moment of course I know you find it to be an interesting place It's very interesting place, it has always been the gateway to Europe and its always been a great place to beta test anything for Europe in fact when I was just starting out in the early 80s on television with music I interviewed every single mega star and the less mega stars in the music business from around the world because they all would come through Holland first. They would even come to Holland before they went to the UK which of course geographically is closer than to the States, then Holland so it's perfect! They try everything out there every single thing and you know as you know that this is

41:48 the netherlands is a lockdown enslaved state and it's complete police state uh... so that they have to try everything out there first so I know you brought back a newspaper, I've seen a couple other newspapers but this guy who killed five people by driving through the crowd through the barricade and then eventually crashed into a monument now it has been confirmed this was an attempt on the Queen's life which by the way pretty poor attempt if you're trying to kill the queen who is on a double-decker bus and your doing it with a Suzuki Swift. That's...I'm going tell you whose gonna win that match right now

42:25 But this is now confirmed as an attempt on her life. Well the guy's dead, how can it be confirmed? And why is the guy dead you know? It's like two to the head... Well, it was hit the thing. Yeah actually the accident didn't look good It didn't you know he first He had to get that there was a there's offense around that monument That he had to hit first which is slow him down after hitting all those people no What slowed them down? Was the people that's what all the dents in the car were you did you hit a person man You're gonna mess up your car too And this is horrific, horrific pictures of a... There's one shot that every newspaper had and the guy is literally under the wheels. It just so horrible but what has really taken place it has broken a major cultural barrier in the country and I just had to stop for a moment talk about that because this is the first thing my wife said, its' the first thing everyone says they've... This meme has been launched

43:25 that these days are over is basically what it is you know the days of the queen in the flags and the kids singing songs and we were all safe and were protected as a beautiful world blame me over it is exactly but he's being blamed on this guy now just like we have to do we have to contain take more than a hundred milliliters of liquid on the plane because some guys supposedly we're gonna go blow up some planes which turned out to be not true not convictable This guy's gonna be blamed where you're absolutely right It's the EU and let's not overlook the fact that the Queen of the Netherlands is one of the richest women in the world Owns, The majority of Shell and there's a lot of shit going on right now in the world of energy And then she has enemies and I'm sure you know that there's crap going on. And this was a message this was A real message and they turned that around and they've turned it into

44:20 Okay, now we're no longer safe. In fact I would say from a mass psychology point of view this was a form of 9-11 for the Netherlands to usher in more protectionisms you know more police less fun Well they already have the less fun going on. I got a good shot at it over shut down coffee shop with the you know for sale signs pretty good. No that's sad I got a lot of good photos, let me see on the two cameras i probably shot 600 pictures on the Olympus 510 and probably shot another 250 pictures on the pocket camera Wow do you publish these or just

45:16 Yeah, I mean if you like I put some of the best ones up and then I you know And the rest of them might know someone might turn into art. I mean, I just do different things with him I have more good pictures than I Know what to do with that's the problem your friend of mine Whenever he does trips around the world from time to time and he has a theme and he takes pictures And then he self publishes a book after the fact which I find it be so lovely, and he sends it to people as Christmas gifts No that's nice. Yeah He writes a little you know little travel dialogue, and any select some pictures It's just when he has a map on the inside cover. It's really it's quite a bit quite nice yeah something I should do if I had more time in the day

45:54 Oh, by the way what's the deal with they got this cheese in Holland that got cumin in it? Oh, uh, co-comanicus. Yeah yeah I like that cheese actually It is good you know what I was thinking when I had it I was like this shredded would be great on a taco Hmm interesting Well, they don't sell it shredded typically. Typically they sell it in thin slices It's pre-sliced Yeah no I... right or a block yeah But that was what I thought of first thing was like shredded would be interesting on a taco I'm gonna try that That's a good idea Patricia makes tacos from time to time Oh and then use that cheese? That'd be really dynamic She doesn't like that cheese even though its a very Dutch type of thing she is major cheese head but not the... And you say cumin funny because they call it komijnikas

46:42 which if you listen carefully is Ayatollah Khomeini. Oh, cute! And the other thing is just a last note until I start going through my photos and then I'll see oh there's that... There are a lot of guys over there with your haircut Yeah it's back in style. I've waited long enough and my shoulder pads are coming back too yeah I think so So I thought you should know Well yeah thanks You know not like I'm a trendsetter or anything So, well you know if they're giving a stop the clock is right twice a year twice a day. Dr Ron Paul Congressman Ron Paul's Audit the Fed House resolution now has 120 co-sponsors Wow yeah we're getting closer how many do you need to have before it's like a lock in?

47:32 The majority. What's the majority? I don't know what number it is, you need to... How many in the house? Let's Google it, I don't know what it actually is, I can come up with a number. I think its 300 and something or 400 and something. So that's close then! Damn. I think we need... let see House of Representatives, I have to google stuff now because Because you don't know no because of the that thing with Air Force one. I got so much email Yeah, we did you know? I got it too and and people get angry Guys know anything and honestly You know just my logical fixed at 435 Sorry for 35 is a number 435 so you need 200 and something

48:22 But wouldn't that be awesome? Because you know, and I've been kind of reading along the Campaign for Liberty is where you can read all about this campaignforliberty.com. You need 218. Right. And it's... No, you know what this could pass they still won't audit it so forget it! Well my friend is being jaded. How can you say that? I mean like just said it True, I mean. I know you wasted a half-a-carbon footprint on saying it but if it passes It will happen! It will happen Then they'll get bad numbers This reminds me of the old...I used to be involved in these lawsuits between AMD and Intel And there's a process that Intel used to use which is just yeah You can see this happening all over the place as a model. It's a fractal

49:16 And, you know, you'd go... First, you have a big fight over something. In this case it would be this law about whether we can... Got it! Whether we can even do this? Is it legally...? You know, because maybe it's an unconstitutional law. So they fight-fight-fight and so that goes on for a year. Then they decide yeah no, you have to do the audit So then, and in the case of Intel, you have to turn over the diagram. So Intel turns over the diagrams like two years later or their plans... After they fight that four more times? After fighting, fighting, fighting and then it takes another year before AMD or whoever depends on who's being sued finds out that these are not the right ones

49:58 And then they go back and say, oh it was a mistake. We had to fire the guy who sent those and then they go through another battle and it just never ends and nobody ever accomplishes what they're looking for. It's a disturbing trend that I only discovered when I started reading documents of the Lisbon Treaty which is the EU constitution disguised On the plane back, there's some channel that is being shown in the EU constantly talking about the big elections coming up in June and how important... And then they have all these men on the street with a microphone. Oh I'm so happy to be voting for the first time! In Europe it's one Europe aren't we great? Aren't we cool?!

50:41 In the Lisbon Treaty it clearly states that the European Central Bank and all of its employees are not only indemnified from any prosecution, from any court anywhere in the known universe but all of the buildings archives and anything contained within these buildings are sovereign Sovereign, John cannot be invaded audited visited any form whatsoever And that's exactly what the Federal Reserve of course got in 1932 I don't know if it was in the original act But you know there's gold trading going on between the Federal Reserve and other central banks That is unaudited that we don't know about hey man. That's our gold. I'd like to remind you It's our gold our gold

51:33 they're trading it and we'd have no idea to know how much or for what price or who they're trading at well, We kind of know it's in China. The China is buying everything up But that would be such a good start I'm really at the end of the day if you can stop these cracks from screwing with our money then wow! A lot would change You follow the money They don't say it for nothing Well, I am glad your optimistic Well, I have to be optimistic and this is the soul searching that i've been doing John. I've been thinking obviously my tact my approach is not working We have a great show we talk about all the things that piss me off and of course nothing happens if we just do another show The next time what do you expect to happen? Well a good friend of mine said to me

52:25 just the other day said you know, you get too angry and people don't hear you through the anger so they're not here. So I'm trying to Jack Nicholson-ize myself. I gotta do something. I've got a change and I've gotta pursue certain things and i like this audit of Fed that's something I can really stand behind as a legal process Are you gonna get depressed when it never actually gets audited? No! Of course not because that's not the stance I take It will get audited if we can get this thing to pass and I encourage you to call your congressman or woman, your representative in Washington. It should be fairly easy to find out who that is and call them don't email them call them and say hey would you please support Ron Paul's bill to audit the Fed at least let's get it passed then we'll take a next step

53:12 Right? Yeah, no I think it's a good idea. Will you march with me? Why not what difference does this make to anybody whether its audited and why would the Fed not want it to be audit so they can get... Because they're secretive and they're stealing our shit that's right! Well thats what YOU think Oh right, You don't! I think... Please I don't. We literally borrow our own money back from those guys and what the hell is that all about? Well... I heard that, who took over from Kennedy was it Johnson when he was assassinated so what i understand is that kennedy had signed a bill in essence was going to rescind the federal reserve act

53:57 and that he was assassinated, and on the day that he was assassinated Johnson of course assumed the presidency. And he struck that bill He got rid of it. Yeah, yeah I know this story's been going around Is that not true? Have you ever looked into it? No you know...I saw a couple documentations some documents and indicated might you know that did he was somebody you know coincidence or I don't know I mean its possible wasn't it Lincoln who started with the greenbacks which of course was another way of removing the banks from the process I don't think Lincoln really was that... There's a beautiful statue of Abraham Lincoln. It's like, you know everybody wants to assume these guys were... Lincoln was shot by Nutcase and Kennedy was too. Sure. Oh, Nutcase! Right. I was walking through San Francisco the other day and i don't remember where it was but there is a beautiful statue of Abraham Lincoln and its kind of life-size so it's not huge

54:58 you know, a huge thing that towers over you and can kind of stand right by it. I don't know that there's a statue of Lincoln in San Francisco...that's interesting Yeah what's the square? It says...okay this is when i walked up to Circuit City You sure this wasn't some random hippie they made a statue out of? They bronzed some hippie with a hat No, it was given to the city of San Francisco by whatever association. The Freemasons probably I don't know but he's sitting there in his chair and it is very detailed are you googling this to see if you can find out where it is? Yeah, I'm looking at a statue of San Francisco by City Hall Yes, by City Hall exactly Do you have picture of it

55:40 I'm getting there. Flickr, yeah somebody on flicker if you go to flicker dot com and type in Lincoln statue San Francisco City Yeah it's a picture of him sitting in his chair is that the one you're talking about? Exactly And you can stand right in front of him and you know what I really felt some kind of thing It was like wow man dude this was a dude back in the day Probably contact high from nearby dope smoker I get no respect from you John I'm telling ya they smoke dope in the city You think So, we do have to mention a few people this week. Oh good! I always like this part of the show. Turn down your speakers.

56:26 So a couple people gave us... That's the first. We have a bunch of weird numbers, let's go through some of the weird numbers and see if you can identify any of them These are donations to No Agenda Armory by the way and I promise that once we're back in our respective hideout locations that were actually gonna get some of this shit together because we owe some people from flatware, we owe some people some certificates and we have a lot of ideas, and I'd really like to start executing on them. Yeah we need more people supporting us. And we need to execute on some other things that were talking about. We talked big game but haven't even put up a website yet. Exactly! We suck! But we do have a website that we're working through squarespace dot com. You go to Squarespace dot com type in tech for your discount. Anyway...

57:10 You're just slipping a commercial. Did you just, did you just slip it? I mean, why may might as well. Oh my God! Here we go. 717 $7 and 17 cents. What do you think seven 17 means? Seven 17 And it wasn't a commercial was a plug little different. Okay this guy's that who did the seven 77 dollars and 17 cents. Mm hmm. that he's either a PayPal customer or something because when you donate $7.17, the amount of money PayPal takes out results in a net donation of 666. Oh no! You're kidding me? That is beautiful! PayPal takes that much money?! Yeah they take tons of it. People should not get... They said the two dollars a month they should do the twenty four dollars a year. Another thing we've got to change on this site John

58:05 Wow, that's great. $717 you get $666 fantastic. That is a good one. Who gave that? I don't have his name because the only names I wrote down are guys who give $50 or more sorry uh... we had a nineteen eighty four nineteen seventy six was nineteen seventy six and nineteen seventy-six was the bicentennial of the united states of course founded in seventeen seven out there could be eighteen fifty nine fifteen fifty less than any other civil war largely started not to get i was gonna say is that uh... ages before the civil war should have been a crash on the way to fifteen oh maybe it's a bit there were some something that happens some american historical event took place

58:52 $22.22, 22-22 anything like that? Oh yes I know what that is! That's mafia code for two to the head...I know this one so.. You're serious?! Yeah yeah because someone emailed me this and said I just donated hey let me look it up cuz someone told you about the donation. He gave it away he said you know you're probably gonna be wondering I'll look it up while we're talking and he said it's something like them the mob always shoots people with uh hold on lemme just google it in my gmail 22.22 come on gmail don't let me down oh yes boom ed here it is I got it Ed touring tourigny tourigny I think Adam I sent my $22 and 22 cents in for no agenda under my PayPal name thought I'd let you in on the meaning of it so if John brings it up you know what I mean and he will never guess it

59:44 I've... Gee, i didn't use this information very well did I? A real pro mafia type hitman uses a throwaway gun loaded with 22 caliber ammo in particular 22 shorts. These little bullets don't make much noise at all so the hit man just walks up to you and pop-pop puts two to the head and leaves! So twenty-two twenty-two is 2 to the head Yeah, and the thing is about those 22s. They're just very... they don't make a lot of noise and then if you get it, it penetrates the skull and then bounces around inside the brain and scrambles because it can't get out. You got like freaking scrambled eggs in your noggin So 2036 Oh I should know this one! Why does that... when was that? 2036

1:00:32 1913 we know is the tax act. Yeah, 1913 is the Federal Reserve Act No, 1913's the federal reserve tax act Oh! The Tax Act I'm sorry yes Federal Reserve Act was in 32 1913 the Tax Act...The Federal Tax Act Right 2112 what do you think that is? 2112 Could be a palindrome yeah well it isn't no it IS a palindrome I don't know it is a palindrome. Sorry couldn't maybe that's all the references, I don't know. I don't know 2112 Unless it's something some it's probably a reference to Star Trek or something 2036 is 512 which is the original Mac yeah 1332 which I don't know that one there's some historical

1:01:30 I don't know that one. All right, well look at that one now maybe the guy can clue us in anyway So we got some bad donors that went over 50 bucks you had the tip top website calm 149 40 which has got to be a number that means something too Tip top website first of all 1332, of course is six six six times two. Oh right? We did that one already do that one That's not new and what was that with the 14? What was that? $149 at 40 cents. So it's fourteen nine forty When did oh when did the when in Columbus discover America 1492 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue. Oh man sound this break an average on hold

1:02:18 Yes, right from the weather. Another one, Matthew Tipton Yes. Koff gave us $69.69, which works and Darrell... Gee! What could that- what could the significance of that one be John? Who knows? It's been a while since I've even discussed 69.69 Yeah, 69.69 we encourage more of those donations. Darrell Pitts had 66.66 Good one. That's a good one too, Randall Hayes just said screw all this bull here's 100 bucks. All right! Right on Then we have Lenart Renkema I hope i'm pronouncing that right and he's got another odd one 138 46 138 46? Ah...I don't know what that is man. Well he's gonna have to tell us Somebody by the way gave us five dollars and eleven cents three times in a row bang bang bang What do you think that could be

1:03:20 Have you done the math? Well, it's 1533. I don't know. I don't get it. Let the listeners try to figure that out and then Samathi Hashko gave us $50. So that's our good guys of the week. Yeah, thank you all so very much if you can't donate any money then putting this show on... actually we're trying to keep it under 80 minutes so you can burn it onto a disc or you can just turn someone on to the site which for now of course is noagenda.mevo.com you can just tell someone, link to us all that helps it really does and we appreciate it. Right and if you do want to donate...

1:04:08 what's the name of our group? Dvorak.org I know, I got to dvorak.org slash NA but then there is the noagenda library Yeah but i'm not using that brand anymore because we know it's the armory and well you gotta get a new website then We gotta get A website That would be the start Go to dvorak.org slash na and help us out It won't hurt So John this uh... yeah won't kill ya This coming week Uh... it will be great if we could get one or two dinners in Yeah, I think we can. Definitely too And is Mimi in town? She is now but she has to leave like tomorrow Oh...I want to meet her! Yeah Do you have a picture? She's at Costco right now if you head over here and probably catch her in the produce section Excuse me ma'am To walk up to her excuse me ma'am I need to speak with you for a moment All that hair! Wish my husband had hair like that Send me a picture of her What does she look like? Okay sure I will send you a picture this weekend

1:05:07 Yeah, well this is the weekend. It's Sunday send me a picture now Skype me yeah okay I don't have one on this machine sure I don't mm-hmm so okay what's on our list we anything else you got going? We got another 20 minutes to George 15 minutes as well actually as i said i want to try and get 15 minutes um but as i told you before i am before it started actually i have done absolutely f all in prep i did nothing Good, well then I can bring up this topic. Do you mind if i just go blow my nose for a second? Well no, I think that's fine. You want me to...I'll talk to the listeners while your blowing your nose because apparently have a cold even though you thought you had swine flu and by the way we didn't talk enough about swine flu I think probably bring it back on Thursday after it blows over completely so yeah its gonna blow over

1:06:06 uh... i think it's so we're talking about that which is some reason my wife and i both got on the computer got into a jay you'll pick it isn't new york times article bringing up the fact that he looks like high fructose corn syrup actually isn't good g not something we've discussed on this show before now is it It says obesity and heart disease, so meanwhile Pepsi has come out with this Pepsi throwback which you're gonna have up for three months only. And Mountain Dew's throwback which eliminates the high fructose corn syrup and throws it in regular sucrose. So we were looking at all these different things that turns out here are some numbers that are kind of interesting. For one thing they think that most Americans after 1996

1:06:51 Before 1996, boys would drink 2X more milk than sodas and then the girls 1.5x more. Since 1996, more sodas than milk are being drunk and with the effect it's apparently very damaging to the bones two things one caffeine It has an effect on the calcium and your calcium needs, in your informative years you have to get a good bone structure by the time you're 22. And phosphorus leaches calcium! So not only are you depriving yourself of it going in but its actually taking away whatever's in there? Yeah Jesus Christ

1:07:30 So, uh... So what is Pepsi doing then? What's this special thing they've got going on? Pepsi has a thing called Pepsi Throwback which has regular sugar in it. It's like Mexican Coke You know I've noticed this trend! This is very interesting. I have noticed a huge trend of real sugar sweetened with real sugar Have you noticed this? Yeah and its like a selling point But yeah but it's not bad Real sugar is good isn't it? Well it's better than whatever this chemical is Jeez So okay, and then of course we market this Red Bull crap to our kids which has you know 30% of the drink is caffeine totally depriving them of Incredibly important stuff they need for their growing bodies. Yeah kitchen B. They should be drinking milk so here's the key here's that what does do you think they're yearly gallonage is for soda pop in the United States on a yearly basis Oh God

1:08:25 Now it's impossible to guess. Let me just say we have 300 million people I would say each of those people probably drinks at least one can a day on average so i'm going to say about a trillion? No, a trillion is way too high It's only 13 billion gallons maybe a trillion cans Right there's probably a trillion cans exactly The average is actually three cans daily for a boy Wow And two cans for girls by the way a couple of those side notes I got here Anyway, that's just stay on that to stay on that for one second before you close it out Yeah When I was a kid and I'm now old enough to say that shit when I was a kid We weren't allowed to drink soft drinks. You know it was a treat maybe on Saturday. Okay kids? You know we drank Kool-Aid. You know this is we had lemonade and

1:09:18 Gee, we actually had lemonade stands. We made our own stuff! We made iced tea and went out to the garden and picked some mint and put it into the iced tea. What happened to that? Since 2005 soda pop is the single largest source of calories for an American No wonder were dying I said to a friend the other day look at all this shit they're serving us They just want to kill us And much of this began during the Clinton administration in 1996 when the schools were allowed to do bidding with these big companies like McDonald's and they started taking the milk out and putting soda in.

1:09:57 And you remember there was also a thing called Channel One, which was... Yeah that was an educational channel in the mid-90's. With advertisements. Set up by what was the guy's name? The guy's name was Whittle That's right Chris Whittle who of course has his satellite academy or whatever I think he went broke Yeah, no the whole project went belly up. I remember they were a client and they didn't pay yeah They can pay in advance anyway The advertiser be candy bars and things like that right? Yeah, it's very bad So I'm floating, by the way if we're leaving Europe and I always forget this. I always take pictures and never post these pictures of the signage that are on tobacco products at the duty-free store in Europe. In Europe when you buy tobacco you have to specifically ask for the kind that doesn't give you cancer because it says right there what do i have here?

1:10:53 Oh this one's actually quite tame because there are different ones. The signage on my tobacco which I have here, which is Old Hoburn is fine British rolling tobacco. Smoking seriously harms you and others around you now that is very mild but here it is on the back smoking may reduce the blood flow and causes impotence and they have a picture of a cigarette that's bent down Yeah, there's that but the main one is smoking tobacco will kill you. Yeah exactly! That's what it says in a huge sign. No even kills you earlier or something like that...or you will die younger and its true of course. There are about five or six of these things they're trying them out I'm not making light on this. My wife points out that this analyst called neural marketing It turns out to the signage

1:11:38 that says this product will kill you actually triggers a response. Makes you want to go and buy it! Yes, it makes you buy more Of course it does It's so idiotic Not a single... Have you ever read anywhere said hey that stuff we put on the packs is really effective? I haven't heard of that survey No in fact they say let's make it bigger Yeah why do think these guys You never hear anyone complaining They're like dude they want us to put like this crap I'm looking at this pack And this is great, I should scan this. So there's like a cigarette and it's halfway smoked and half of it is ash and its kind of lit... ...and it's bent down like a flaccid penis and says smoking rate may reduce the blood flow and cause impotence. The first thing that comes to mind John when I see that is sex!

1:12:26 Yeah, right. I think it's well luckily i don't have that problem yeah that's probably another thing oh that's great doesn't affect me let's smoke some more so wait a minute I've been trapped the whole thing has been fooled all these years you have actually so I gotta ask you this yes I got this got the paper from Amsterdam is called NBNA what's the name of it? The NRC. No, no this is just like AD or something. Oh, Algemeen Dagblad, yeah. Yeah so it's a tabloid it's actually quite good lot of pictures I don't like them because they're copy paste publication pretty much but okay well anyway there's who's this woman Wendy oh geez Wendy van Dyck

1:13:08 I get yeah, one day. Yeah, Dyke the movie Wendy von Dyke or whatever name is she's a TV host Hilton of no please please stop no No She's extremely irritating she up and I repeat myself Yes, no she's not she's it's extremely irritating but not to not none the Paris Hilton way because she's not hot But she's a TV presenter and she started off, she had this show which was kind of cute called Ushi & Fandang. And she would dress up... it was kind of corny because it would work sometimes but there were the same formulas. She dressed as a Japanese journalist

1:13:47 and uh... the transformation was good she looked japanese as you go off i thought i and she couldn't speak in english so she had a translator which is your whole setup and whenever press junkets would come through town he'd have like you george clooney and brad pitt or you know whatever majors hollywood celebrities then they'd you know they did request interview when this is no the number one show or news channel in japan and of course all these super celebrities who do these interviews and they would make it really you know crazy questions. It's like Borat! Yeah but dumb, the Dutch Borat, dumb and then there would be the big reveal and these celebrities were like well yeah you got me but who the fuck are you? It's one thing if its a

1:14:34 uh... action culture action could share exactly you know it's unlike that was like oh yeah that's good that's funny you got me but the so who are you and what did you know haha so never really works to this liberties near the payoff is is never good for the celebrity cuz like mom with the hell is that just promote my damn movie you know anyway so now she hosts x-factor in all this other stuff and she screwing with the uh... with the program director which of course is why everyone in tv land hater because her show should actually be off the air but it's still on despite low ratings cuz she's bone and a guy okay so that's uh... wendy what about her she's all over the paper he probably born in the editor whatever they can say just as well who is this woman i don't know personally i'm sure she's quite sweet for your votes for moment there she was the super darling

1:15:29 because she was married to kind of a rock star dude named Sunder and they had a baby together. And of course it was, you know, big Dutch version of celebrity love affair and then he cheated on some girls after...on his...on Wendy with some girls after some gig. You know just one of those rock and roll type things but it was actually the girls who then had tape recorded him. It was really sucked, every guy was like oh dude! And you know the sex was dumb and useless. The guy did a show, he's got thousands of girls adoring him... One of them says hey come on let me blow ya! You understand how these things go because guys are pretty simple that way and every guy is just thinking oh man you've so got so screwed, so useless

1:16:23 stuff was so for no reason and of course when the immediately said I never want to speak to him again he was that dog i'm talking three four years you know if anyone was a dick it was his name was associated with it yeah just like sander and as a but these things the way the media goes when u when you cast the ball it will come back to you that's how it works so Wendy totally use that too uh... to vilify and to into annihilate this guy now she's getting it back another press is going oh well you think your son was goody two-shoes what do you doing bone in the program director despite the way is how the media works and that is exactly how and why we come up with

1:17:10 And now, back to Real News. Because we just spent 10 minutes talking about it... Yeah but you know what? It's interesting because we're actually not talking about that at all We are talking about the sociology and were using the exemplification in regards to Wendy To better analyze the sociology so that we can understand the world around us In a manner that makes us more effective as human beings I'd call that the perfect end of the show, John. I think so Because you just explained in a nutshell with more eloquence than i could ever produce what we're all about And we're under 80 minutes So people can burn this to a CD which is our goal Ah and it's a good one! It'll help us get to three shows a week sooner if you help us out By the way, I got a lot of email about that too I have not got a single person who said... Maybe these people just don't e-mail

1:18:08 No one has said, oh no no do less shows. I only get to more. I want three or four or five shows a week. Yeah it's unusual but i can see that people who have long commute would love lots of this stuff Coming to you from Gitmo Nation Northwest, not quite in the place called Silicon Alley but of course it doesn't exist. I'm in San Francisco my name's Adam Curry and here from the other side of the great San Francisco Bay in the Gitmo Nation West I am John C. Dvorak we will talk again on Thursday right here on NO Agenda