Episode 937 · Sunday, 11 June 2017

Stump the Algo

A Senate testimony Rorschach test shatters the collusion narrative while a hung parliament in the UK forces a fragile coalition between Theresa May and the DUP.

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About this episode

Former FBI Director James Comey testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee, admitting that a New York Times report on Trump campaign collusion was largely inaccurate. The hearing served as a political Rorschach test for the media, with Senator Jim Risch highlighting that the President’s expression of hope regarding Michael Flynn did not constitute a legal order. This testimony effectively collapsed the central collusion theory, forcing even MSNBC’s Chris Matthews to acknowledge the shifting narrative.

In the United Kingdom, Prime Minister Theresa May formed a coalition with the Democratic Unionist Party after a snap election resulted in a hung parliament. Jeremy Corbyn and the Momentum organization mobilized a massive youth vote, while London Mayor Sadiq Khan faced backlash for politicizing recent terror attacks. Meanwhile, the United Nations appointed a rapporteur for Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity (SOGI) to push for global LGBTI mandates, facing stiff opposition from the 57-nation Organization of Islamic Cooperation over internet takedown policies.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak deconstruct the "poop map" of San Francisco, where tech giants like Twitter reportedly lobbied against public facilities. The show explores the global sand shortage driving piracy in India and the rise of sophisticated robot calls using artificial office noise to bypass the uncanny valley. Sir Neville James and Sir Rob Miller are knighted during a Father's Day donation segment that tackles the reality of the 16-year war in Afghanistan.


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CHAPTER 01 / 41 Discussion

Podcast Introduction, Algol vs Al Gore

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the broadcast from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley. They introduce the show's themes of battling algorithms and deconstructing news, while joking about the phonetic similarity between the programming language Algol and Al Gore.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· cluedio· drone star state

00:00 Put on your seatbelt, get back here and stay slave. Battling the Algos of Gitmo Nation and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet here in the capital of the drone star state, In the Cluedio. In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where we ask the question is it Algol or Al Gore? I'm John C. DeVore Well the essential question is does make a difference

00:38 El go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el go el Very well, we have a lot of good news or not even good. I mean oh It's just a lot of news. Yeah, that's a lot of news We got the British thing which I have a good I have finally figured out the mechanism Let's start with that let's start with the British thing you want well I've been trying to figure out exactly what it was it happened That you know that they couldn't foresee but then I realized that they could have foreseen it and

CHAPTER 02 / 41 Discussion

British General Election, Theresa May and DUP Coalition

Prime Minister Theresa May's decision to call a snap election resulted in a hung parliament, forcing a coalition with the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) of Northern Ireland. While May sought to consolidate power for Brexit negotiations, the Labour Party under Jeremy Corbyn saw significant gains. The DUP's conservative social stances and pro-Brexit position are identified as key factors in the new governing arrangement.

theresa may· brexit· democratic unionist party· jeremy corbyn· snap election

01:29 And it's all kind of explained, but we're discussing here the British election. The snap election that... I would say, I don't know if you'd call her an idiot but that Theresa May decided to have so she can consolidate her power even though she had the majority and they were running things. But she's gonna...she wanted more. She got greedy. Now they had a very narrow margin win in the last election did they not? You used to have 326 seats No no they had the majority. It was narrow it wasn't like... Well it was narrow but once you get to that certain point 326 yeah You you end up and running that coalition And maybe just just briefly explain a lot of people don't understand the parliamentary system certainly not Americans because it's new we have a two-party system There is no independence or anything else

02:16 So you can have as many parties as you want and very much like the electoral college in the United States, at least a majority that's 326 in order to govern. And if no party has it then you've got to put a coalition together Right, would make your extra. Yeah, it looks like they're gonna get the dupes from Northern Ireland duper Duff I don't know what it is doop that's yeah Democratic Party So democratic Unionist Party which was a bunch of Presbyterians that Seem to be running the place and they

03:01 for Brexit, although this is kind of interesting. There seems to be if you listen enough news reports which I ended up doing there's a bunch of people that say they're against Brexit and then a bunch says they're for brexit i think they are for Brexit by their nature. Aren't they all against gays? They're against gays. Well, they're not against gays per se I think that's what they like to portray it there against gay marriage Okay Which nowadays if you're against game marriage are against gays right and they're very conservative So there I have some great gay stuff coming up later on for you I can imagine. Oh, you'll love it! So let's start with this one British election This is the British election in a nutshell PBS A demonstrator wearing a May mask laid flowers on a mock grave amid rising calls for the Prime Minister to resign

03:49 Labour leader Corbyn led the charge. It was her campaign, it was her decision to call the election, it was her name out there and she was saying she was doing it to bring about strong and stable government well this morning it doesn't look like a strong government, it doesn't look like a stable government, it doesn't look like a government that has any program whatsoever Corbyn's success came in part from cooperating with the grassroots campaign organisation Momentum, which took advice from Bernie Sanders volunteers. Adam Plug is a national organiser. You build up relationships with people on the doorstep you listen to them you communicate your ideas effectively and help train people on persuading people of why Labour's policies made sense

04:31 Yes, take stock! Stock. That by the way a couple things about that clip one over they said they had a mock grave Yeah, and they had somebody dressed up as you know Uncle Sam death is death. Oh, and my grave And then my gray wasn't didn't have Teresa's May name on it. They had brexit okay? Well bring that they didn't want to say anything about that But this is something of a Brexit redo. This isn't done deal. It's just a done deal with the the Dubs the dubs

05:27 Yeah, the dubs. That's a done deal? It'd be interesting! I think it's a done deal because the dupes had come out publicly and said yeah they're all in. Because they actually will have a lot of power because they'll have the final deciding votes and stuff in many cases won't they? Well yeah but I don't think it's gonna...I don't think it's going to be as big a deal as a lot of people like to make it out to be Well, hello. We're not in M5M media You gotta make it a big deal if you do in that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah, but Theresa May campaign takedown This was a good little clip All righty.

CHAPTER 03 / 41 Discussion

Sadiq Khan, London Terrorism Political Criticism

London Mayor Sadiq Khan faced criticism for using recent terrorist attacks to make political points against the Conservative government. Critics argue that Khan's focus on police funding cuts during a time of national tragedy was a calculated move to bolster his standing within the Labour Party.

sadiq khan· london mayor· terrorism· police funding· political opportunism

06:24 And that way so they're gonna blame the terrorism on her now because she cut the funding to the London police This is the clip that we had the last show that I was befuddled by where he were they mayor of London who? Is now slated to become the next head of the Labour Party, huh? The Mayor of London us kept harping on this Sadiq and I said why does it why doesn't he blame the Home Secretary for Why, why may-may-may in this Georgia? Oh yes of course. It was a political point. Yes! So that... Wait a minute so you're telling me that Sadiq Khan the mayor of London used the death of people and the maiming of up to what 50 60 people for political reasons gee hold on let me just give him a little present. There ya go douche knuckle yeah that's despicable

CHAPTER 04 / 41 Discussion

UK Youth Vote, Jeremy Corbyn and Momentum

Jeremy Corbyn's electoral success is attributed to the grassroots organization Momentum, which utilized strategies from Bernie Sanders' volunteers to mobilize young voters. High student turnout, driven by regret over the Brexit referendum results, led to the defeat of established politicians like Nick Clegg. The presence of eccentric characters in the background of political victory speeches is noted as a sign of shifting UK political culture.

jeremy corbyn· momentum· bernie sanders· youth turnout· nick clegg

07:14 Definitely. Now, let's play this there is another one that is kind of interesting I got one more clip after this and then by conclusion you will see oh yeah obviously it's too obvious Theresa May the coalition in borrowed time For now May needs a coalition partner to form a governing majority in parliament most likely Northern Ireland Democratic Unionist Party The group is pro-Brexit but well to the right on social issues There's broad agreement across the political spectrum that Theresa May is living on borrowed time. Yeah, well she's gonna be ousted. Everyone thinks but again you have your Jeremy Corbyn who was supposed to be ousted from labor and he stuck around so here's the last clip now this clip was on RT this is Nick Clegg Nick Clegg the very famous British politician and in fact Angus Robertson the guy who is running the Scottish Nationalist Party this

08:09 They got voted out, both of them. So we won't get to see Angus anymore coming in and he was very talented in the parliament but... In this particular, and I started noticing this more, in this particular clip The liberal Democrat slash labor representative news guy, they're in a little panel here on RT. You don't see it too often that I think is from RT's London offices. The guy is...this is a journalist he's like your age. Oh he's very young and dapper! Maybe well he's young and probably younger than you but he's got a mohawk

08:49 Shaved-haired mohawk mm-hmm a kind of a guy from Yahoo that that that googly. What was his name? Yeagley squeakily I don't know remember that guy the crazy guy no Their marketing guy Oh, that no. No this guy's worse There's no comparison The marketing guy was just kind of a kind of an eccentric Nick Clegg speaks fluent Dutch Did you know that I think we may have discussed it before fluently? Fluent Dutch is very freaky to hear him suddenly switch to dutch I'm sorry I'm still wrapping this little description here. He's got a mohawk, he's wearing kind of a waistcoat or tails, a flowery shirt with black bow tie and white tights.

09:42 I read it now. And he's extremely, is very well spoken and he doesn't have any F like they say if you don't hear him but you wouldn't spot him looking like this in a million years. You'd have to see it. And then I noticed when Jeremy Corbin was up there giving his victory speech even though he didn't really win, he had a guy behind him that and I think this has going on in England and somebody from one of our we have a lot of English producers and they can clue me into what this is all about The guy behind him, he's wearing a velvet suit of some sort and with long tails again. A big yellow shirt, a yellow cummerbund and a giant top hat of the style you would see on Alice in Wonderland that was kind of flares out and is furry

10:35 With a yellow band around it and he's standing right behind I need to picture. I know I need to see this stuff now You'll find the pictures of this guy. He sees like one of Corbin's guys And so I'm thinking this place has gone crazy, so let's play this clip then I'll explain what I think happened here okay And of course, not immediately relevant but of course Nick Clegg lost his seat as well. Yeah and I think that was just going back to what Steve was saying earlier on that's directly down to the student vote there is this there was a massive campaign to get students to register to vote a massive drive hundreds or thousands of new registers from under 30 over the last sort of month or so and that's not only affected Sheffield Hallam with Nick

11:20 Nick Clegg, it's also taken out Greg Mulholland in Leeds North West. Again a direct result of students registering and getting out to vote and it's because Jeremy Corbyn has mobilised and motivated young voters So here's what we saw. Corbyn, who also picked it has this momentum group that works with Bernie Sanders theories to get the young vote out during the Brexit vote the one common element and theme that we continually heard from people bitching and moaning about the vote going Brexit instead of Lee or stay were students all these students there was hundreds of them but everyone would do say the same thing they'd say

12:02 Oh, this is terrible. I'm not going to get my job in Europe... I have no freedom of movement! I got no freedom of movement and it's gonna be stuck here in this hellhole And then the question would be asked, did you vote? No. Why bother? None of them voted but this time they did and the Tories should have saw this coming because what they did was they got all these pissed off kids who are irked about the fact that their Brexit vote went through and they all feel guilty about not voting all came out to vote! Yeah how dumb...how dumb

12:42 Well, she made it through. So that's okay but still risky. She's done she's through she's ruined her career this was a stupid decision and it could have been foreseen yeah but nobody foresaw it was the students came out to vote they still couldn't swing it fully to labor but it was a possibility pretty damn close I say So anyway, that's the kind of summary and that's what going on in the UK. And I think it's not gonna stop. I think these kids are gonna see that they got a little power, they got rid of Nick and some of these other guys. I don't know why didn't like them but they didn't. Now this could become a huge difference maker and is gonna change... The policies but is also bring more of this crackpot looking characters like the guy in yellow and the guy with the bowler hat. Alright, the guy I was talking about was Shingy

CHAPTER 05 / 41 Discussion

Shingy and AOL Digital Prophet Comparison

A brief comparison is made between the eccentric dressers seen in British politics and David Shing, known as "Shingy," the former digital prophet for AOL. The discussion highlights the trend of over-the-top fashion in corporate and political branding.

shingy· david shing· aol· digital prophet· eccentric fashion

13:32 Oh yeah, that guy. It wasn't Yahoo I'm sorry it was AOL's digital profit Yeah So he looks like Shingy a bit is that the deal? No he's way over the top compared to Shingy Oh okay well good There's your update Thank you Hello Gitmo Nation GMT Actually did I not have something on them just while we're on the topic for a moment I had uh no no i just said i have a couple of A couple of articles for people to read in the show notes. We don't talk about the show notes that much anymore, but if you go to archive dot noagendanotes dot com and you can find an entire collection of all our clips Everything is in structured data You can also go to search dot any show notes dot com That's that thing has kicked ass ever since one of our producers picked up the project from github

CHAPTER 06 / 41 Discussion

No Agenda Show Notes, Search Tools and Producers

The hosts highlight the technical infrastructure of the No Agenda show, specifically the searchable show notes and structured data archives. They credit the audience "producers" for maintaining the GitHub project and server hosting that powers the show's research tools.

show notes· github· structured data· podcasting· producers

14:25 and rebooted it, and started up on a different server. It's really good! And it integrates beautifully now with the No Agenda player. Man we got some... They should have podcast awards for best audience. Best because you know we call them producers but they're producing them they're doing more work than we are. X-nay on the Erkle way. So let's move to Comey this happened during the show most interesting things do happen Show days so right after the show, but I went straight to the couch and I watched it was about what two and a half hours. I think the full testimony The full hearing of Comey. Oh, yeah. Did you watch at all? No, no I watch pieces of it I did get a lot of clips But I didn't watch it all from beginning to end they couldn't do it Well, so I see that you have a couple here I also have some media clips how the media obviously responded to which was quite funny I do ever I pulled a couple of clips from these

CHAPTER 07 / 41 Discussion

James Comey Senate Testimony, Media Rorschach Test

Former FBI Director James Comey's testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee is described as a Rorschach test where viewers saw what they wanted to see. While some viewed it as evidence of obstruction of justice by Donald Trump, others saw it as total vindication for the President. The reporting by RT and mainstream outlets is contrasted to show the divergence in narrative.

james comey· senate intelligence committee· donald trump· rt· media bias

15:25 From the hearing itself because there were some really revealing things that you will not hear discussed on the m5m anywhere in fact they're even Manipulating things that that come well. Okay, I got it. I got a pre clip then we can do oh I think goes right into what you're gonna is that like precancer? It's like it's a little bit like pre-cancer. This is the this was from RT and they picked up on the The two world that the two dimensions Oh, okay nice And the girl comes into her as the clip everyone hears what they want to hear is what she concludes and I think this Is a good free clip because it really does

16:11 symbolize what happened after the Comey hearings. I think she could have been a little stronger with her report, but she did, I think, a good job of now analyzing the two dimensions. One of the most watched Senate hearings in American history has come and gone and the testimony of SAC FBI Chief James Comey was everything everyone expected for those who thought it would spell the end of Donald Trump It did! For those who thought that US President would come out unscathed He had has. How is that possible? Liberals say the stakes have been raised in Team Trump's Russian scandal, while conservatives are calling this sweet vindication and the media takes its own interpretation." The president's rebuttal a combative statement from his private Manhattan lawyer Mark Kazowitz.

16:58 Has Trump obstructed justice by hoping Comey would let go of the Michael Flynn case? I took it as this is what he wants me to do. Now, I didn't obey that but that's the way i took it You may have taken in his direction but that's not what he said Correct He said- he said I hope Those are exact words correct you don't know if anyone has ever been charged for hoping something Is that a fair statement? I don't as I sit here Like everything political opinion is about

18:04 new heights and in some cases the facts have been completely turned upside down. The specific ask was that you would tell the American people what you had already told him, what he had already told the leaders of Congress both Democrats and Republicans that he was not personally under investigation? Yes sir. Somehow CNN seemed to take that to mean that Trump WAS under investigation Well here we know in June Donald Trump is under criminal investigation and that's a big deal We also saw Comey reveal he passed information to the press. My judgment was I needed to get that out into the public square and so i asked a friend of mine to share the content of the memo with a reporter didn't do it myself for variety reasons but asked him too because I thought that might prompt the appointment of a special counsel And yet somehow not everyone understands that as information was leaked He quote leaked, he made that memo

19:00 available after he was no longer a an employee of the federal government. He did that as a private citizen." So it feels like Comey's testimony hasn't changed much everyone sticks to their guns and here is exactly what they wanted to hear Jacqueline Vuga RT Washington DC Wow another nice effect they got going on there Is it this? I swear to God that was in there. No, you didn't produce that? I did not produce- You're no...no no That's your thing! That's your- No! I know it sounds just like my cowbell but i'm telling ya It was on RT Hey everybody its RT! Woah here we go! Ah those Russians man loved that

19:53 I should have clipped it now in hindsight because i heard Don Lemon, Anderson Pooper and who's the guy over at Fox? Shep Smith. It may be a sexual orientation thing. Sounds like a gay cabal! They kept talking about this being a Rorschach test Which is the famous ink blot. Look at the ink stain, what do you think it is? Ooh I see a butterfly! And I think Don Lemon called a warshack test so now I have to go back and find that because that would be funny But thats their version of this as two universes and boy was very true the analysis of it but I took the time, I watched it so you don't have too not you John but everybody else

CHAPTER 08 / 41 Discussion

James Comey, New York Times Reporting Inaccuracies

James Comey admitted during his testimony that a February 14th New York Times article regarding Trump campaign collusion with Russia was "in the main" not true. The testimony confirmed that at the time of his firing, Donald Trump was not personally under investigation, contradicting months of media speculation regarding active measures and wiretapping.

james comey· new york times· russian collusion· wiretapping· classified information

20:36 From I would say within 15 minutes all questions had been answered and all the answers we needed were given But that doesn't mean that it wasn't some really interesting little nuggets We picked up, and it was Jim Rich the senator from Idaho Republican who He seemed to be the only honest guy on there he had a lot of good questions but what I like so much and There's obvious reasons. The m5 men will not talk about this Comey pretty much said, you know mainstream media is full of shit. I remember You talked with us shortly after February 14th when the New York Times wrote an article that suggested That the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians. Do you remember reading that article when it first came out? I do it was about

21:25 allegedly extensive electronic surveillance to hide communications. And that upset you to the point where you actually went out and surveyed the intelligence community, see whether whether you were missing something in that is that correct? That's correct. I want to be careful in open setting, but... I'm not going to go any further than that so thank you In addition of that after that you sought out both Republican and Democrat senators To tell them that hey, I don't know where this is coming from But this is not the case. This is not factual Do you recall that? Yes Okay So, so again so the American people can understand this that report by The New York Times was not true. Is that a fair statement? Yeah in the main it was not true

22:09 New York Times is wrong have they have they read issued a retraction if I missed it somehow They said we were wrong. We were wrong No, no the old great lady Yeah The paper of record and again all of you know this American people don't what do the tell us? We're also stupid The challenge that I'm not picking on reporters writing stories about classified information is to get people talking about it Often don't really know what's going on, and those of us who actually know what's going on are not talking about it. No we just leak And we don't call the press to say hey you got that thing wrong about this sensitive topic. Nahh we have our friends send it to them We just have to leave it there I mentioned the chairman the nonsense around What influenced me to make the July 5th statement Nonsense but I can't go explaining how its nonsense Thank You

22:55 Alright, so those three things we now know regarding the active measures with the President's under investigation and the collusion between the Russian Trump campaign and Russians. Okay, what he just said is to summarize the collusion, wiretapping... And what was the third one? Russian something. I gotta listen too. Some other Russian thing. Plaining how it's nonsense! Thank you Alright, so those three things we now know regarding the active measures with the president under investigation and the collusion between the Russian Trump campaign. So there was no active measures i.e wiretapping The President is not under investigation There was no Russian collusion And this was in the first 10 minutes I'm like oh shit We're kinda done 28 words that matter

CHAPTER 09 / 41 Discussion

Senator Jim Risch, The Definition of Hope

Senator Jim Risch of Idaho questioned James Comey on the specific phrasing used by President Trump regarding Michael Flynn. Risch argued that expressing "hope" that an investigation would be dropped does not constitute a legal order or obstruction of justice, noting that people are rarely charged for their hopes or thoughts.

jim risch· obstruction of justice· michael flynn· criminal intent· legal definitions

23:45 is how Senator Rich positioned the quote that Comey wrote down from the president. I want to drill right down as my time is limited, to the most recent dust up regarding allegations that the President of United States obstructed justice. And boy, you nailed this down on page 5 paragraph 3 You put this in quotes Words matter You wrote down the words so we can all have the words in front of us now There's 28 words there that are in quotes and it says quote I hope This is the president speaking I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go To letting Flynn go He is a good guy I hope you can let this go

24:31 Now those are his exact words, is that correct? Correct. And you wrote them here and put them in quotes? Correct. Okay. Thank you for that He did not direct you to let it go Not in His words no He did not order you to let it go Again those words are not an order No He said I hope Now, like me you probably did hundreds of cases maybe thousands of cases charging people with criminal offenses. And of course you have knowledge of the thousands of cases out there that where people have been charged Do you know any case where a person has been charged for obstruction of justice or for that matter any other criminal offense? Where this they said or thought they hoped for an outcome

25:21 I don't know well enough to answer and the reason i keep saying his words is I took it as a direction. Right, but- As the President of the United States with me alone saying I hope this...I took it as this is what he wants me to do now and I didn't obey that but that's where I took it You may have taken in his adrection but that's not what he said Correct He said, he said I hope Those are exact words correct you don't know anyone who has ever been charged for hoping something Is that a fair statement? I don't as I sit here Thank you Mr Chairman This whole hope thing yeah You have to play this And there's three versions of this. I just want to play, you played the clip that would follow what I'm going to want you to play which is...you have to be careful if you don't play the wrong one here. Classic Peli Comey. This is Peli on CBS Evening News. What we just heard was at the hearings

CHAPTER 10 / 41 Discussion

Scott Pelley, CBS News Deceptive Reporting

CBS Evening News anchor Scott Pelley is accused of lying by claiming James Comey testified that the President "directed" him to drop the Flynn investigation. The actual testimony showed Trump used the word "hope," which critics argue is a significant distinction that Pelley and other journalists intentionally ignored.

scott pelley· cbs news· media manipulation· michael flynn· journalistic ethics

26:14 Here's the way Pelley, and this is the Comey misleading audience. This is what Pelley says. President volunteered to testify to the special counsel investigating Russia's tampering with the US election in a Rose Garden news conference president Trump denied yesterday's testimony by James Comey the FBI director that he fired last month Comey told the Senate Intelligence Committee that the president directed him to drop the FBI's investigation of former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn. Wait, wait! Hold on! Let's listen to what he actually said Are you confident that no votes cast in the 2016 presidential election were altered? I'm confident but Tom when i left as director I'd seen no indication of that whatsoever Director Comey did the president at any time

27:07 No. No, that doesn't really mesh very well with Mr. Pelly's words does it? What did Pelly- Pelly- Pelly Kelly's the liar. Let's hear him again. That is a terrible report for him to put on CBS And you know I heard Rachel Maddow do the same thing. By James Comey, the FBI director that he fired last month. Comey told the Senate Intelligence Committee that the president directed him to drop the FBI's investigation of former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn

27:52 You lie! Telly. That's direct contradiction to what happened. That is an actual lie, a lie And that's an actual lie Now- That was an actual lie on CBS and I have to just say who's responsible for this? Who wrote that line? The CIA? Why are you required to say it? CIA Everyone was saying this It would...I mean we have...I'm sure you have clips We do tons of clip about how crazy the analysis was Umm..the word hope though has been bandied about like oh I mean, you know it's like he's like the mafia. You know? He's sitting there like, I hope you understand and I hope ya-ya drop this thing And then Kamala Harris came in When a robber held a gun to somebody's head and said I hope you will give me your wallet The word hope was not the most operative word at that moment Oh yes! That makes so much sense Um...uh Director Comey Was the president holding a gun to your head when he asked if you hoped you dropped this Flynn thing No

CHAPTER 11 / 41 Discussion

James Comey, Salacious Dossier and Truth Claims

A confusing segment of James Comey's testimony is analyzed where he discusses briefing the President on "salacious and unverified" material. The hosts debate whether Comey was suggesting the underlying reports were true or if he was simply stating it was true that he had the conversation to avoid a "J. Edgar Hoover" type of blackmail situation.

james comey· mi6· steel dossier· j. edgar hoover· counterintelligence

28:49 Oh man, outrageous. That is outrageous Here's something that I think everybody missed I don't, I'm flabbergasted. This would be perfect for the cable news outlets certainly for CNN MSNBC listen carefully did you limit that statement to counterintelligence investigations or were you talking about any kind of FBI investigation now this is regarding the first meeting the director had with President-elect where he told him about the MI5 intelligence memo, about the hookers peeing on the bed where Michelle and President Obama slept. That was MI6 by the way. Of course it was MI6 not MI5 This is what this is about listen very carefully I didn't use the term counterintelligence I was speaking to him and briefing him about some salacious and unverified material It was in the context of that

29:51 that he had a strong and defensive reaction about that not being true. And my reading of it was, it was important for me to assure him we were not personally investigating him And so the context then was actually narrower, focused on what I just talked to him about. That it was very important because it was first true and second... ...I was worried very much about being in kind of a J Edgar Hoover type situation. I didn't want him thinking that I was briefing him on this to sort of hang it over him in some way I was briefing him on it because we had been told by the media it was about to launch. We don't want to be keeping that from him and if there was some... he needed to know this is being said, but I was very keen not leave him with an impression that the Bureau's trying to do something to him And so that's a context in which I said Sir were not personally investigating you Unless I misunderstood what Comey just said He said the report was true! He said it was true

30:48 First of all, he threw J. Edgar Hoover under the bus. No no that's next we're gonna get to that next. He just did it! Hold on hold on to it I have another clip for that hold on let's just talk about this report listen again. Then was actually narrower focused on what I just talked to him about but was very important because it was first true It was true? He says the report was true! OK. Why is no one talking about this? Because I think you're taking it out of context, you have to be because I don't... I watched the whole thing! Are you kidding me?! They would be all over this if you were...I think let's can you start the clip over? Yes yes Did you limit that statement to counterintelligence investigations or were you talking about any kind of FBI investigation

31:37 In fact, John I left a little bit of the her question on there so that you could hear the context he answers completely about any kind to vet the investigation. I didn't use the term counterintelligence. I was speaking to him and briefing him about some salacious and unverified material it was in the context of that that he had a strong and defensive reaction about that not being true. And my reading of it was, it was important for me to assure him we were not personally investigating him and so the context then was actually narrower focused on what I just talked to him about but it's very important because it was first true... The context of what he was talking to him about?

32:24 Here's what... no, I think you're taking this... Okay. I could be wrong. I could be wrong. Because he prefaces it with unverified — that means it can't necessarily true — unverified and salacious. Yes? He uses the word true about some other aspect of what he is trying to describe. What I heard is that he said he narrowed the conversation I'm just listening again. Look, I could be wrong but he's a lawyer so it was kind of hard to figure it out. Personally investigating him and so the context then was actually narrower focused on what I just talked about What did you talk about? The salacious report or am I mistaken? The unverified salacious report. But I think he is not talking about the report when he says true He says that it was true that he had the conversation

33:16 Let's listen again. ...getting him, and so the context then was actually narrower focused on what I just talked to him about that was very important because it was first true... Okay maybe it was just true that that report was coming out? That's possible okay uh to me the call line- Now you're hearing what you want to hear! Totally totally all right J Edgar Hoover mentioned in this clip. Wait, wait for this one! Okay I'm not gonna say a thing just play When i was appointed FBI director in 2013 I understood that I served at the pleasure of the president

CHAPTER 12 / 41 Discussion

FBI Director Term Limits, J. Edgar Hoover Legacy

The 10-year term limit for FBI directors was established in 1976 as a response to J. Edgar Hoover's 48-year tenure. Contrary to modern claims that the limit ensures independence from the President, the historical intent was to prevent a single individual from amassing too much power and using the bureau for blackmail.

fbi· j. edgar hoover· term limits· watergate· robert mueller

33:53 Even though I was appointed to a 10-year term, which Congress created in order to underscore the importance of the FBI being outside of politics and independent. I understood that I could be fired by a president for any reason or for no reason at all... Director Comey! And this is repeated everywhere That is not why the term limit was imposed. Let me read to you, The FBI Director is appointed by the President since 1972 also confirmed by Senate J Edgar Hoover appointed by President Calvin Coolidge to the predecessor office director of Bureau investigations in 1924

34:31 was by far the longest serving director holding the position from its establishment under the current title of 1935 until his death in 1972. In 76, in response to Hoover's lengthy tenure and during the Watergate era Congress imposed a term limit of 10 years for future directors which was waived by the Senate for Robert Mueller July 27th 2011 This was not to ensure the independence it was to ensure we didn't have another J Edgar Hoover who is spying on everybody and blackmailing them And everyone is wrong about this. We're not, we bring this up all the time! This isn't the first time that we've said this But the director of FBI to say this and everyone's like oh yeah it's in Whedon and Wikipedia Snopes where's Snopes? Get Snopes on the case I thought that was flabbergasting

CHAPTER 13 / 41 Discussion

Loretta Lynch, Tarmac Meeting and Matter vs Investigation

James Comey testified that former Attorney General Loretta Lynch directed him to refer to the Hillary Clinton email investigation as a "matter" rather than an "investigation." This directive, combined with her tarmac meeting with Bill Clinton, led Comey to believe the Department of Justice's credibility was compromised, necessitating his public statement in July 2016.

loretta lynch· bill clinton· tarmac meeting· hillary clinton· email investigation

35:22 Yes, I think he said this before too. Oh yeah This is just put plays into the hands of they once I had to mention be and there goes you Okay, so now guys now we have a couple of interesting little things here And what I'm going to do is, I'm going to play this. It's actually two clips and then i'm going to play ABCs version of it which is so much better than what he said This is regarding Attorney General Loretta Lynch The decision to publicly go out with your results on the email

36:01 Was your decision influenced by the Attorney General's tarmac meeting with the former President Bill Clinton? Yes, in an ultimately conclusive way. That was the thing that kept him away He just said he was influenced by the attorney general! Influenced! This is actual obstruction of justice! That's what I was thinking. The Attorney General's tarmac meeting with the former president Bill Clinton... Ultimately, the conclusive way that was the thing that kept it for me that I had to do something separately. To protect the credibility of the investigation which meant both the FBI and Justice Department. Were there other things contributed to that you can describe in an open session? There were other things they contributed to that

36:48 One significant item I can't, I know the committee's been briefed on. There has been some public accounts of it which are nonsense but I understand that committee has been briefed on the classified facts. Again great work news media Probably the only other consideration I guess i can talk about an open setting is that at one point the attorney general had directed me not to call it an investigation. Directed me? This isn't... so there's someone who actually directed someone to do something regarding an investigation meddling in the investigation but instead to call it a matter which confused me and concerned me, but that was one of the bricks in the load that led to conclude I have to step away from the department if we're to close this case credibly. Here's a little follow-up he explains exactly what happened and why it really bothered him Probably the only other consideration... But i guess i can talk about open setting is at one point the attorney general had directed me not to call it an investigation but instead to call it a matter

37:44 which confused me and concerned me, but that was one of the bricks in the load that led to conclude... I guess I pulled a wrong clip. Now what he said, damn it maybe its another clip, he said oh wait here is this. The Attorney General previous Attorney General asking you about the investigation on the Clinton emails saying that you've been asked not to call an investigation anymore but call it a matter And you had said that confused you can give us additional details on that? Well, it concerned me because we were at the point where we had refused to confirm the existence as we typically do of an investigation for months and it was getting to a place where that looks silly because the campaigns were talking about interacting with the FBI in the course of our work. The Clinton campaign at the time was using all kinds of euphemisms

38:34 security review matters, things like that for what was going on. We were getting to a place where the attorney general and I were both gonna have to testify and talk publicly about it And I want to know was she gonna authorize us to confirm we had an investigation? And she said yes but don't call it that call it a matter and I said why would I do that? And she said just call it a matter And again, you look back in hindsight and think should I have resisted harder? This isn't a hill worth dying on. So I just said okay the press is going to completely ignore it and that's what happened when i said we have opened the matter they all reported the FBI has investigation open so that concerned me because that language tracked the way campaign was talking about the FBI work and thats concerning. So we not only

39:25 interference with an investigation. We have evidence of collusion between the Attorney General and the Clinton campaign." Yeah, Bill Clinton on the tarmac! But they were talking about it- yeah, talking about specifically like a matter I was talking about a matter now listen to what's guy King from not Larry King the other gang the guy gray haired guy from CNN just listen Director did the special counsels office review end or edit your written testimony? No. Was General Flynn at that time... Oh, sorry this is the one I meant He was asked specifically about his statements to the FBI Do you have any reason to believe he gave false statements to the FBI and said that's one of the reasons he was under criminal investigation a number of significant things One this won't get much attention because it's in the rearview mirror but a pretty damning account from Jim Comey there about Loretta Lynch The former Attorney General in Obama administration and her handling of the Clinton email investigation It wont get much attention but that was pretty damming

CHAPTER 14 / 41 Discussion

ABC News Editing, Media Narrative Construction

ABC News is criticized for deceptive editing that spliced Comey's comments about Loretta Lynch's interference into a segment about Michael Flynn. This montage effectively redirected the focus of government meddling away from the Clinton campaign and toward the Trump administration's actions.

abc news· deceptive editing· michael flynn· hillary clinton· media bias

40:20 Yes, that's John King knows very well how it works. Oh this won't get much attention this is what was going on with the Attorney General Yeah too late now Now listen carefully how ABC I just pulled a little piece they had a whole montage of the testimony and listen to how they take What Comey said about Loretta Lynch uh, interfering and telling him what to say. And pressuring him and how they edited that right into Mike Flynn's name. Director did the special counsels office review and or edit your written testimony? No Was General Flynn at that time in serious legal jeopardy? And in addition to that do you sense that the president was trying to obstruct justice or just seek

41:07 for a way for Mike Flynn to save face, given he had already been fired. General Flynn at that point in time was in legal jeopardy there was an open FBI criminal investigation of his statements and connection with the Russian contacts and the contacts themselves so that's my assessment at the time I don't think it is for me to say whether the conversation I had with the president was an effort to obstruct I took it as a very disturbing thing, very concerning. But that's the conclusion I'm sure the special counsel will work towards to try and understand what the intention was there and whether that's an offense. I had to do something separately to protect the credibility of the investigation which meant both the FBI and the Justice Department. Were there other things that contributed to that you can describe in an open session? There were other things that contributed to that

41:56 One significant item I can't, I know the committee's been briefed on. There have been some public accounts of it which are nonsense but I understand that committee has been briefed on the classified facts Probably the only other consideration I guess what I can talk about in an open setting is that at one point the Attorney General had directed me not to call it an investigation, but instead to call it a matter which confused and concerned me. But that was one of the bricks in the load that led me to conclude I have to step away from the department if we're to close this case credibly." I think that's the most deceptive editing job I've ever heard. Wow! It made it sound like it was all about Flynn because it was about Hillary's emails? Exactly!

42:35 Exactly is really bad. Yeah, it's you know it's not as blatant as my peli clip No But it's it's it's were at least It's worse yeah, it's worse just just for just to refresh our memory thing is easy the guys Just lies on camera this This was a, it was an edit hit job. That's unbelievable! And they put that little... I should start listening to some other networks. I gotta get off CBS. And they put that freaky music under it just to mind control you. Yeah, the freaky music. Little flashback to Loretta Lynch at the Aspen conference What on earth? What were you thinking? What happened?" Well, I think that's the question of the day isn't it. People have also wondered and raised questions about my role in the ultimate resolution of matters involving investigation into State Department emails as i've always indicated the matters being handled by career agents and investigators with department justice they've had since the beginning

43:31 They are independent. Which predates your tenure as Attorney General? It predates my tenure as attorney general, it is the same team and they are acting independently they follow the law, they follow facts that team will make findings that is to say they will come up with a chronology of what happened The factual scenario They will make recommendations on how to resolve what those facts lead to. Those though, the recommendations will be reviewed by career supervisors in the Department of Justice and in the FBI and by the FBI director. And then as is the common process they presented it to me and I fully expect to accept their recommendations." And we now know how that really went she pressured Comey and you know oh it's just career people have nothing to do with it well she obviously did

44:16 I have two more clips from this hearing and then we can go off to some media stuff about it. Everybody is laughing about John McCain, how he was...was he drunk? What's going on you know but he was incoherent all true. He said oh I was watching baseball late at night but I listened to this clip a couple times of cut it down somewhat And although incoherent and nuts, I think he's making a valid point that no one really understood. Tell me the difference between your conclusion as far as former Secretary Clinton is concerned and Mr Trump? That investigation was going on this investigation is going on you reach separate conclusions No that one was done only had investigation of any involvement

CHAPTER 15 / 41 Discussion

John McCain, Russian Meddling and Double Standards

Senator John McCain's incoherent questioning during the Comey hearing is analyzed for its underlying point regarding a double standard. McCain attempted to ask why the investigation into Russian meddling was closed for Hillary Clinton but remained open for Donald Trump, despite the FBI never gaining physical access to the DNC servers.

john mccain· russian hacking· dnc servers· hillary clinton· double standard

43:31 They are independent. Which predates your tenure as Attorney General? It predates my tenure as attorney general, it is the same team and they are acting independently they follow the law, they follow facts that team will make findings that is to say they will come up with a chronology of what happened The factual scenario They will make recommendations on how to resolve what those facts lead to. Those though, the recommendations will be reviewed by career supervisors in the Department of Justice and in the FBI and by the FBI director. And then as is the common process they presented it to me and I fully expect to accept their recommendations." And we now know how that really went she pressured Comey and you know oh it's just career people have nothing to do with it well she obviously did

44:16 I have two more clips from this hearing and then we can go off to some media stuff about it. Everybody is laughing about John McCain, how he was...was he drunk? What's going on you know but he was incoherent all true. He said oh I was watching baseball late at night but I listened to this clip a couple times of cut it down somewhat And although incoherent and nuts, I think he's making a valid point that no one really understood. Tell me the difference between your conclusion as far as former Secretary Clinton is concerned and Mr Trump? That investigation was going on this investigation is going on you reach separate conclusions No that one was done only had investigation of any involvement

45:07 Secretary Clinton or any of her associates is completed. Yes, as of July the 5th The FBI completed its investigative work and that's what I was announcing what we had done and what we had found I think that the American people have a whole lot of questions out there particularly since you just emphasized The role that Russia played And obviously she was a candidate for president at the time So she was clearly involved in this whole situation where Fake news, as you just described it. Big deal took place." Now what's going on here is McCain is trying to communicate something which is not uninteresting He's doing a very bad job and he gets at a certain point he doesn't even know if Comey's the president or who the president is

45:58 But Comey is only thinking about the Clinton email investigation which was closed in July of 2016. McCain is saying something different. You're going to have to help me out here With respect to secretary, I'm not-I'm a little confused Senator. With respect to Secretary Clinton Yeah We investigated criminal investigation in connection with her use of a personal email server I understand And that's the investigation I announced inclusion on July 5th So but at the same time you made the announcement there would be no charges brought against then Secretary Clinton for any activities involved

46:35 in the Russia involvement and our engagement in our election. I don't quite understand how you could be done with that, but not completely done with the whole investigation of their attempt to affect the outcome of our election." No, I'm sorry. We're not... At least when i left When I was fired on May the 9th there was still an open active investigation to understand the Russian efforts and whether any Americans work with them But you reached the conclusion that there is no reason to bring charges against Secretary Clinton So you reached a conclusion in case of Mr. Comey

47:13 You, the president. Say what? Call me. No sir. In case of President Trump. Have an ongoing investigation. What is he saying and I understand what he's saying why don't you explain it to us because this guy has lost it. What he's trying to communicate is the Russians meddled in our elections people use the word hacked all kinds of different things He's saying if If they meddled in the entire elections, why are you not at all looking at the Clinton camp? We know that they haven't. I found out although I didn't clip it, FBI did not have access to the DNCC or the DNC servers neither one were handed over to the FBI thought at least one of them was handed over but no neither one none but there's a trusted third party so of course we're on the crowd fire or an obra

48:13 McCain is saying, why aren't you? Why did you why aren't you talking to them? Why is there no communication with that side she was in the election. How could how can all of that be shut? You didn't even investigate them. That's I think what he's trying to say. What has been brought out in this hearing is more and more emphasis on the Russian engagement and involvement in this campaign. How serious do you think this was very serious but I want to say something be clear. It was we have not announced and there was no predication to announce an investigation of whether the Russians may have coordinated with Secretary Clinton's campaign, Secretary Clinton's campaign- No but they may not have been involved with their campaign They were involved with the entire presidential campaign obviously Of course yes sir And that is an investigation that began last summer and so far as i'm aware continues So both President Trump

49:11 former candidate Clinton are both involved in the investigation, yet one of them you said there's going to be no charges and the other one that the investigation continues. Well I think there is a double standard there to tell you the truth. McCain knows something He's confused and he's nuts, but he knows something that he is trying to allude to about the Russians and the Clintons. That's what he is trying to say." I think you're right. But he's doing such a piss poor job on that. Yeah, he really messed it up. Why even bother listening to him? It's like... I think you are right. There are lot of these guys always… You can tell by the way they ask these questions that they're trying to get the guy to say something that they know but they know they can't say themselves. Exactly!

49:57 I don't know what it is. You know, remember that the Russians might have all of her emails? There's all kinds of stuff going on! If there was an inkling or a thought that the Russians had access to her emails which pretty much all the intelligence world had access to her e-mails from her private server... That would mean everyone has it Then you need to see that thing You know, you need to see everything. You can't stop investigating! Anyway... I'm going to play one last short clip from Comey then give you a conclusion before we go over to some media analysis on how they reported on this.

CHAPTER 16 / 41 Discussion

James Comey, Lordy and The Fixer Persona

James Comey's use of the word "Lordy" and his admission of feeling intimidated by the President are mocked. The hosts characterize Comey as a "fixer" for the elite, citing his past roles on the HSBC board during money laundering scandals and his prosecution of Martha Stewart while ignoring major banking crimes.

james comey· lordy· hsbc· clinton foundation· martha stewart

50:39 What happens to people when they walk in there is a certain amount of intimidation, but why didn't you stop and say mr. President this is wrong I cannot discuss this with you it's a great question maybe if I were stronger Is that a great question? Amount of intimidation But why didn't you stop and say Mr.. President this is wrong. I cannot discuss this with you It's a great question Maybe if I were stronger I would have I was so stunned by the conversation that i just took it in and the only thing i could think to say because i was playing my mind, cause remember every word he said. Was playing on my mind what should my response be? And that's why very carefully chose the words and look at... I've seen a tweet about tapes Lordy! I hope they're tapes LORDY!!! I remember saying I agree he is good guy as way of saying I'm not agreeing with what you just asked me to do

51:40 Again, maybe other people would be stronger in that circumstance. But that was how I conducted myself I hope i'll never have another opportunity. Maybe if I did it again, I would do it better All right So as an american citizen, i'm very happy This man is no longer a director of fbi because he's a whiny little bitch And now let me tell you what? I think about comey who was director of hsbc on the board of directors when they were going through the whole mexican drug money laundering He's a fixer. He helps people he was uh intimately involved with the Clinton Foundation. Then he's in New York, does he send bankers to jail? No! He sends Martha Stewart to jail. He prosecutes Dominique Strauss-Kahn to get Fifi Lagarde into the IMF This guy... here is what happened. He got burned on... because he was told by Lynch listen stop this look no more Clinton investigation close it down

52:40 So he says, okay it's all done we're closed down. But then he really got burned because they had to reopen the investigation and then he's like oh crap what am I gonna do now with this Trump thing? He's a pussy! He's weak! No backbone no spine and... And then he goes in he... I have to get the word out into public square! I have to let everybody know what's going on! He's covering his own ass and WHAT MAN SAYS LORDY?! Lordy lordy!! It's cultural appropriation, if anything. This guy... I'm glad he's gone. What a douchebag! Douche-bag. You may now play the pet peeve jingle. Okay.

CHAPTER 18 / 41 Discussion

Chris Matthews, Collapse of the Collusion Theory

MSNBC's Chris Matthews admitted that the central theory of the Russia investigation appeared to fall apart following Comey's testimony. The realization that Michael Flynn was not central to the collusion narrative and that Trump encouraged the FBI to find anyone in his orbit who did wrong shifted the media's perspective.

chris matthews· msnbc· paul manafort· carter page· russian collusion

57:26 The world is upside down. they played some conversation he had with Michael Flynn or Paul Manafort or somewhere. And yet what came apart this morning was that theory because in two regards, the president said according to the written testimony of Mr Comey go ahead and get many bodies satellite to my operation and nail them on with you on that so that would mean a man afford Carter paid someone else like that. And then he also came across David was fast and come he said

58:12 Basically, Flynn wasn't central to the rushed investigation. That he was touching on it! Yeah... Gee! Oh you mean that all these like how many months now? Just half a year or year how long we've been talking about this yeah exactly it all fell apart noooow we've got some interesting information coming to us from CIA And we're pretty convinced that FBI and CIA are at war internally, and I'm...I'm pretty convinced that the struggle continues very wildly at the moment. I would think. Catherine Herridge, the pixie girl from Fox—we know she's a intelligent asset

CHAPTER 19 / 41 Discussion

Catherine Herridge, Unmasking and Intelligence Community War

Fox News reporter Catherine Herridge reported on allegations that James Comey "slow-walked" records regarding the unmasking of American citizens in intelligence reports. The discussion suggests an internal war between the CIA and FBI, with Senator Chuck Grassley's specific questions about leaking indicating he already had evidence of Comey's activities.

catherine herridge· fox news· unmasking· chuck grassley· cia vs fbi

58:55 And she has a pretty cool accusation. Everything that has been indicated to me is that the investigation will continue and it may wrap up at some point soon this year, but the accusation against the former FBI director—and this comes mostly from Republicans—is that he has been sort of slow walking records about the Americans who were identified or unmasked in these intelligence reports and providing them to Congress. And the reason that's a big deal is that everyone in the IC, in the intelligence community knows there is no bigger deeper wider more extensive paper trail than there is when you unmask or identify an American citizen. It should not take months it

59:39 It should take weeks, if not the course of several days to know who was unmasked and who made those requests. And that has not been provided to Congress based on our reporting." And it's obvious it was Comey! He is the one that unmasked! Then they take this stupid girl throw her under the proverbial bus get rid of her. He's the one that unmasked and he's a leaker! I can't remember a time ever where a former FBI director has deliberately leaked the contents of a government document so it would get to a reporter in the hopes that it would prompt a special counsel investigation. And one of the problems, I'll say for James Comey right now is that in his last public testimony here on Capitol Hill before the Senate Judiciary Committee

1:00:28 Right out of the gate in that hearing, he took a series of questions from the Republican chairman Chuck Grassley. And Chuck Grassley asked him whether he had ever been an anonymous source for reporters about the Hillary Clinton email investigation or the Russia case and James Comey testified no then He asked him whether he had ever authorized someone else to be an anonymous source on his staff on the Clinton email case and the Russia case and James Comey said no. So at the very least, what you can draw here from that testimony is that once he left the office of FBI director He was not necessarily a person of principle

1:01:09 He made a decision to leak information on an anonymous basis in the hope of really changing the entire focus of the Russia investigation going forward. So that, based on my reporting here over the last couple months specifically on that issue—this sets up at the very least a conflict or the need for further explanation how he sort of squared these elements here, Bill? And the reason is he's covering his own ass. He's a pussy boy. There's an element here that I think you don't want to overlook. Grassley...

1:01:44 I remember these questions. They seemed a little weird to me." He asked the question as though he already knew the answer and he knew... And that's, have you ever leaked? No! Have you ever given your stuff to someone else to leak was not a question that you're gonna normally ask because it's not something you'd normally think of would you did guy leaked or didn't but no no he knew something and this again brings us back to the CIA FBI battle When you're dealing with the news media which is infiltrated by CIA, he obviously gave it to a CIA guy who told Grassley about it because he knew what was going to happen. Yes yes

CHAPTER 20 / 41 Discussion

Judge Jeanine Pirro, James Comey as a Predator

Judge Jeanine Pirro characterized James Comey as a "wily predator" who calculated his interactions with the President to facilitate future leaks. The involvement of Columbia Professor Daniel Richman as the intermediary for the leaks is highlighted as evidence of Comey's deep ties to the Washington elite.

jeanine pirro· fox news· daniel richman· leaking· washington elite

1:02:27 Judge Jeanine had her own take on this. Jim Comey comes across as someone who is so wily and so calculating, he's a predator! He makes the decision that the president is going to lie to him before even has his first meeting and so he decides that he's gonna start recording or memorizing what was said in their conversations And then it gets to the point where he says you know I'm gonna leak this stuff now Why is he so comfortable leaking? What is it about his history, his background as a prosecutor? And what I would want to know is has he the leaker. Is he the guy who was so comfortable and the answer why he didn't leak in himself about the seagulls on the beach and my wife was hogwashed It was a distraction! You know what he did this same thing just now with the senator What he said basically was Lordy I hope there are tapes Well that doesn't answer the question

1:03:22 someone else was asked. Does it matter who he leaked it to? Because Daniel Richman isn't just a buddy, I've been talking about this on the radio. Oh yeah no this guy is a liberal guy look he worked for them in the United States He worked with them at the US Attorney's office, he was the appellate attorney there you develop a very close relationship from being DA with my appellate people okay You talk to them about serious issues but the fact that he was so comfortable that he did this professor. And it's leaked to the... It tells me that he spent, this isn't the first time that the guy is leaked. He tells me he was a predator. He was looking to take Donald down or the president down excuse me and what he wanted to do was preserve himself. He is an operator. He is part of the Washington elite." That's right! And he's a pussy.

CHAPTER 21 / 41 Discussion

Nancy Pelosi, Morning Joe and Mental Hygiene

Nancy Pelosi appeared on Morning Joe to question President Trump's mental health and sleep habits, suggesting his "synapses aren't working." However, Pelosi suffered her own "senior moment" during the interview, confusing Trump with George W. Bush and struggling to pronounce "irreparable," leading to questions about her own mental hygiene.

nancy pelosi· morning joe· mika brzezinski· joe scarborough· mental health

1:04:09 But I think that this went so poorly for the Democrats, it's not unsurprising that Nancy Pelosi showed up on the Morning Joes for half an hour. Half an hour! This woman is on Morning Joe. Yeah, the speaker of the House...not the speaker but the second in line of the House of Representatives runs it. She's a minority leader. minority leader. She hasn't got time to waste doing this, why don't you go do her job? A very interesting little exchange between the panel on the morning joes and Ms Pelosi Besides telling the president not to tweet if he came to you and said I've got this problem with Russia all these investigations i really do want to get back to people's business what could he do what would advise him to do What would I have advised him to do

1:04:58 Go to sleep. Yeah, get some sleep Yes bring yourself to a place where their synapses are working I agree with you completely You said that to him? Well when he called me the night of the Syria invasion not to go into the conversation was late at night like it meant well after it was all finished He was going on and on and I said what it was like midnight. Why don't you go to sleep? I think that um...I think there's something not More sleep might be a solution for him. But the thing is... His people, just to expand on that his own people say he doesn't sleep He wanders around the White House His family's not there right now He bangs around there with like Steve Bannon He's obsessed with the news He sits and watches TV six hours a day Joe really knows a lot about what The President is doing at The White House Doesn't he? I can- he just painted this picture of Trump going

1:05:52 I'm just saying, he's not in a good place. Well we're not in disagreement on that but what I would say is this is really important and I say to my members if you want to talk about Now, mind you she just said the president he doesn't sleep his synapses aren't firing. You know is probably mentally challenged He might have syphilis didn't say that but I'm just painting the picture for you making a judgment about his presidency You have to have the facts So let's have an independent outside Commission To have the facts about what the Russians try to do to our election to make sure it doesn't happen again Why didn't he ask any questions about that?

1:06:35 Amazing. He wasn't even curious about it. Amazing! It's easy, they're running interference. Oh well no question about that I didn't did it wrong. Not even curious about it what is why is he beholding to Putin that he would put him on a pedestal and question article 5 which is practically an article of faith? She didn't question Article five did we miss something He didn't question Article 5. In terms of our mutual security arrangements, why would he question whether we would do sanctions on Russia? What is it the Russians have on him politically, personally and financially? Given the fact

1:07:14 that very few people other than you, especially you are more familiar with the stress of the job at the presidency. Given your remarks a few moments ago Are you concerned about the president's health? Okay now Nancy Pelosi we know all think he is nuts concerned about his health, his mental hygiene perhaps. But wait what happens to her? I think it's family should be concerned about is health but the fact is that this is hopefully not repairable he has the president of the United States you mean you hope it is repairable yeah

1:07:53 Irreparable. Maybe you should have a check up, Miss Pelosi. You have the clip? I didn't get the clip but i should've gotten this clip did you get the clip of her recess? Yes! Okay, good. You played it. Well maybe I was right! She just had a senior moment right there after she accused the president of being confused and mentally challenged and all kind not having enough sleep. Needing sleep. She's sitting there and she's going yeah this is you think we can't read this is you can't repair this. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Irreparable. Irreparable yes exactly. Well maybe I was right! Maybe I was right! And then maybe I was right!

CHAPTER 22 / 41 Discussion

Democratic Strategy, 2018 Midterm Elections

The hosts argue that the Democratic Party is attempting to sustain the Russia narrative until the 2018 midterm elections to influence the court of public opinion. Nancy Pelosi's comments regarding "abuse of power" and "impeachment" are seen as part of a long-term strategy to regain the House of representatives.

nancy pelosi· 2018 midterms· impeachment· public opinion· political strategy

1:08:34 Maybe I jump on it. I'll jump Mika. It's not repairable and perhaps there is an impeachment. Very good bunch of douches. Now, now she, she then you stop for just a second. Sure. I do not see how this can continue, because this is what the idea is. This my theory and maybe you don't agree or you do they have to keep this up until the elections of 2018 I... They're shooting their wad! Not only that but they were so proud of Hillary Clinton never sleeping Oh she doesn't need any sleep She's a superhero she doesn't sweat She's a superhero she's fabulous You know everything like that But not Trump No the Trump man cant' do it no he cant' do it

1:09:26 So she does a... I forgot about that. You're right, Dave. We were all happy about how Hillary doesn't need any sleep She's a superstar Yeah, superstar! So Nancy has her daily speech She does one just like the State Department and the White House she does them herself And uh..and she is so proud of herself Do you see it as something criminal? No wait that's not the one hold on This one, here we go. What I did say this morning in case you missed me on TV is follow this. You hear what she says? In case you didn't see me on TV yesterday... Did you see me on TV?! What I did say this morning in case you missed me... In case you missed me! Did everyone miss me!? Did you see me!? You missed it?? I was really good!! On TV is follow this Now, this was early this morning and then light of events that have come forth since I said to him that New Yorkers have said to me

1:10:21 Those who've had business dealings with him, he operates this way. First he tries to charm you President Bush tries to charm you If that doesn't work, he tries to bully you if that doesn't work, he walks away from the deal and if that doesn't work, he sues you So, charm, bully, abandon Sue. And then an aide walks up to the lectern hands her a piece of paper. To where that is so I would hope that we could work in bipartisan right now again indicative of what's going on in the administration you have this Secretary of Treasury saying they want clean debt ceiling. I said President Bush? I'm sorry I meant to say it's hard for me to say it

1:11:05 So she said, she inadvertently said President Bush. Again you got to be concerned for her mental hygiene She said Bush instead of president Trump And then she says I can't even say it! I can't even say President Trump which she doesn't say I said President Bush...I'm sorry I meant to say It's hard for me to say it You know? Yeah so hard Poor President Bush I apologize A final short clip of her spinning the obstruction of justice. Do you see it as something criminal or is it just inappropriate? Well, it certainly is inappropriate and let me just get back to your question Mika yes I do think it is abuse of power but in terms of obstruction of justice I think there's reason to believe and that Mueller should look into this

1:11:57 Because you don't say, as they said—well, nobody ever was prosecuted because they said what they hoped. Yeah, but if you're the president of United States in The Oval with this pattern of behavior that we have seen while the Justice Department Their tradition is not to indict the President of the United States. It's certainly in a court of public opinion very incriminating." Which is exactly what this is about! Is about the court of public opinion, it's about the elections...the 2018 elections and even she says well you know probably should be looked into this obstruction of justice but it's about the court of public opinion oh thank you very much

1:12:39 Well, this is...they can't make us drag on this long. I don't- We're just a few months into the whole thing and they want to carry us for over a year? Didn't they do the same thing with the elections? They also started way too early with shooting their water stuff. They start too early and then they run out of steam at the end. This is a real problem that Democrats have. They're going to have to correct this. I shot my wad so you can let's wrap this up with your clips and then we can head off into the sunset. Well, I don't really have anything on top of that. I do have... Let's see. You've a leaker? I see PBS leaker Yeah, this is just this is the different leaker

CHAPTER 23 / 41 Discussion

Chelsea Manning, ABC News Interview and Transition

Chelsea Manning, formerly Bradley Manning, gave an interview to ABC News discussing the motivation for leaking classified documents regarding civilian casualties in Iraq. The hosts comment on Manning's physical transition and voice, comparing her to other public transgender figures like Caitlyn Jenner.

chelsea manning· bradley manning· abc news· whistleblowing· transgender

1:13:18 And well maybe we can play this, it's got really nothing to do with Pelosi or all this other crap going on. But this is kind of an ask Adam. Alright It says ask Adam and I want you identify the leaker She told ABC News that she felt obligated to expose civilian casualties while serving as intelligence analyst in Iraq We're getting all this information and it's just death, destruction mayhem. And eventually you just stop... I stopped seeing just statistics and information and i started seeing people. I've accepted responsibility no one told me to do this nobody directed me to do this This is me It's on me Wait a minute who was this? Oh you missed it yeah that's what I thought Play PBS Leaker 2 and you'll know who this was

1:14:03 The transgender soldier formerly known as Bradley Manning is now appealing her conviction. Wow, let me listen to the clip again She told ABC News that she felt obligated to expose civilian casualties while serving as an intelligence analyst in Iraq We're getting all this information and it's just death, destruction mayhem. And eventually you just stop I stopped seeing just statistics and information and i started seeing people. I've accepted responsibility no one told me to do this nobody directed me to do this This is me It's on me Huh! So unlike Bruce Jenner Yeah Chelsea has got the voice down

1:14:46 Yeah, she's gotten the right hormones and she sounds... if you look at her and you'd like to consider that she's cute. Can she pass? Yes! She can pass and now you have to wonder if she might've been a chimera or something. She looks like she should've been all along like she claimed a woman Yes, he carries herself like one. She sounds like once she looks everyone okay done. She may be she maybe intersex Yeah, it could be or something whatever the case when you want see her There's not it's not like some guy You know with a beard you know right talking like this wearing a dress I mean It's just it's not that well with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John soon

CHAPTER 24 / 41 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Knighting Ceremony

The hosts conduct a lengthy donation segment, thanking executive producers for their financial support. Notable donors include Neville Barham from Australia, who is knighted as Sir Neville James, and Sir Onymous of Dogpatch. The segment includes listener notes on Islamic councils in Australia and various jingle requests.

neville barham· sir onymous· sir penonymous· knighthood· donations

1:15:35 Where the C stands for Comey is a Pussy, Dvorak! And in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry also... In the morning do all the ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. And in the morning too Uncle Cave Bear who was the artist for the artwork on episode 9 or 3-6 titled that episode The Paris Pullout This was a nice piece it was Al Gore with a machete, kind of like Freddie from Friday the 13th with blood everywhere. Very good! Very nice piece and we highly appreciate that NoahJenderArtGenerator.com is where you can upload during the show even if you're late We use art for all kinds of stuff for our Bat-Signal for the newsletters It's highly appreciated so thank you very much And we'd like to thank a few of our executive producers and associate executive producers for episode 9 or 3 7

1:16:27 Yes, beginning with Neville Barham. I'm thinking that sounds pronounced in New South Wales, he's in North Lambton who came in with a congesting myself here $1200 so which puts him all kinds of categories. Wow my name is Neville from Newcastle the north new south wales 100 miles south of Sydney on the coastline listening for awhile I've not donated until now but hope this will reduce my guilt a little I enjoy the show and like the humor, moods information and analysis that you guys provide. You and Adam must spend a lot of time preparing which is much appreciated. We have a lot of political and cultural issues troubling Australia many of which are the same or copied from the U.S.. Islamic terror is a problem though not as bad as other countries like you guys. Many of our problems concern young Muslims from refugee parents who get radicalized

1:17:22 in Islamic mosques and other places learning as well as internet, learning as well on the Internet. Recently in Victoria the Islamic Council wanted its young men women not counted as equal people to have a safe place where they can discuss issues invent with no scrutiny by the police and where there's no repercussions for what might be discussed might be discussed or said. Not only that, they want the government to pay for it with public money! In no agenda you often discuss issues relevant to Australia would like to be knighted Sir Neville James O'Bray Park Hill Oh Sir James of Bray Park Hill and all surrounds please play three jingles at you and Adam enjoy I like most of them

1:18:11 Thanks again to you and Adam for not only all your serious work, but also for the laughter education and entertainment you provide. Don't worry be happy fake news You've got karma Sir Animas by the way this is sir on emus is like one of our great patrons now it comes with ten It's outrageous 1080, yes. What does the 1080 signify? It's in his note which I have right here. This is Sir O'Nonymous of Dogpatch. Yes, Sir O'Nonymous of Dogpatch So i'm thinking you know his name which I first thought was Sir O'nonymous but it was Onimous so onimous and he put together Sironomous. I think sirenonmous means something

1:19:08 It's like a Greek philosopher. Oh, another note from Seronimus! So I'm thinking 1080p maybe? For HD? No... Here it goes. It is exhausting to listen to opinions from uninformed uninquisitive yellow journalists on the networks. Well that's what we do our best at. Sorry if you think that about us. Just kidding! We're on the network should be making a lot more money. I'd be fired no, it would not be fired I've done sir while we would be fired We'd be fired in a week there spins around on its own your hard work show slows the spin and helps me comprehend actual news

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1:25:00 I have a long lecture to give about some of these check. Yeah, we'll do that in the second Don't it's very interesting and anyway did but the credit union seem to have their act together The nation represents two quantity of six over 14 flag day as well as mine and Trumps birthday Birthday shout out for the both of us Oh Well this okay you gotta get your pencil number 2 at the ready John Hogarty birthday on 614 and Donald Trump He wants us to, okay we can do it. Hold on so Donald Fogerty on what day? No it says John Fogerty with Donald Trump I'm confused but you made a Donald Fogerty and just skip it. I'll just Donald Fogerty you got it. Donald Fogerty one day

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1:27:34 No, it was a week ago or so. About a strip club? I prefer to be recognized- I want to talk about the poop map too while we record this show story Well this flows into it Yeah, I think so! I would prefer to be recognized as Ho Ji Hung My Chinese name Not sure if I qualify for a Chinese name Ho Ji Hung?! Really? Okay... Wait a minute Is he on- Maybe Ho Gi Hung Wait a minute He's not on the Why would he be on any list It's a letter that came in to me, an email. Not sure if I qualify for a jingle? Yes you do! But wait is he now a knight or not what are we doing? He says he's... well did he call himself a knight?! Well just read what he said again because maybe i misunderstood. No he just wants to be called Ho Ji Hung Oh I thought it wanted to be called the Knight and that was a knight name I'm sorry.

1:28:27 No, he's just got birthday stuff. Alright alright But he does have enough in- He's a associate executive producer to Zika zika zika Whoopie get out of my vagina and don't eat me Hillary Zika zika zika Whoopy Get out of it And what's the third one? Don't eat me Hillary Okay...and that one I always mess up It's always a little You know why is because I don't put an apostrophe there What?! It's one of those days. Spring is here, the temperature is rising and... That's not the right Zika either! Oh this is great! It's been that kind of a day. Yeah hold on let me see Zika why can't I find the Zika? I can just say it. Zika zika zika No it's not as funny Small heads oh here it is I got it sorry about that we'll fix it

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CHAPTER 25 / 41 Discussion

San Francisco Poop Map, Homelessness and Tech Companies

San Francisco's public hygiene crisis is highlighted through the "poop map," a crowdsourced tool tracking human waste on city streets. The problem is reportedly exacerbated by tech companies like Twitter, which successfully lobbied to remove porta-potties near their offices to prevent the homeless from congregating, inadvertently leading to more waste on the sidewalks.

san francisco· poop map· homelessness· twitter· public hygiene

1:32:14 So the story will flow into your story. The story about the strip joint was something I tweeted, which is quite interesting. It's just a...I'm sure it was bogus but I tweeted it and immediately people were like, that's bullcrap! This is the guy who deconstructs noose? What are you doing?! And they sound exactly like that. You know I'm nailing it Oh, totally. And there was about a strip joint where they had the food that the girls had eaten before showtime and some kind of bug in it and so the story is that they were on the poles. They were on the poles spinning around the pole. Yes yes its very detailed in its description I'm pretty sure it's not true but it was very very funny

1:33:07 And that flows right in, flows literally right into your story. From the newsletter, from the newsletter it was a very interesting... I had no idea and I've lived in San Francisco so I know about the problem but I didn't know about the maps and well please do explain. Yeah in the last newsletter I did a special on human feces based on the fact that the Denver City Council legalized pooping in the street So I had to mention that one up Denver because San Francisco not only the people poop in the street, but there's a poop map which is you can link to on this newsletter and the poop map. It's very brown. It's really horrible. Well if you zoom in on the poop map, you can go street by street and see where all the poop is because who maintains the poop map?

1:33:55 I don't know who maintains it, but is-but i know the public keeps it up to date because Jay has a lot of dogs. It's crowdsourced poop! It's crowdsourced poop locations. It's not crowd source poop It's, uh... She always checks the poop map for her dog walking regimen to see where they go because you know it says poop all over the place. And when it rains you have to assume that the poop is really all over the place because the poop gets wet and splashes everywhere. It's a disgusting situation! The map is bad enough but here's the kicker that I didn't mention in the newsletter. Which was a really shitty newsletter. Yeah, it was crap man.

1:34:38 Apparently, a lot of this stems from the high-tech companies that have bitched and moaned about the homeless. And the word on the street—and I think there was some reporting on this but I don't know if it was detailed—Twitter which is right on Market Street where there's a lot of homeless people had bitched and moaned and groaned about a bunch of porta potties that were all around their offices saying that the porta-potties were the problem. They were causing the homeless to congregate." So they rather, they prefer poop on the street? Apparently! They didn't realize that would be the result but so a lot of the porta-potties used to be in San Francisco were taken away because these tech companies saying it's the blight and is making the homeless gather around here. We don't want even see them And that is exactly what they sound like

1:35:33 Exactly, yes. I've been working in the industry long enough that's one of the few imitations i can do accurately Very good very good So they removed all the porta-potties and now there is a poop problem It has always been a problem but not like it is now The poop problem in San Francisco humans just crapping and this of course we brought up on the show probably more than any other show where we discuss it with the immigrant situation in Europe. Where are they pooping? Exactly, where are they pooping? They gotta be pooping somewhere you've got to poop! Poop has to come. And so San Francisco is poop laden. Taxes and poop its life

1:36:12 San Francisco, I'll say it again. San Francisco is poop laden so good luck when you want to come out here as a tourist. If nothing else get ahold of the newsletter and I've tweeted it too so that makes it very accessible and go to the poop map and then figure out where you want to stay when you're in the city. To the poop map Robin! The crazy thing is that everyone's so careful about their dogs pooping Yes, I mentioned that. Yeah if you're a dog walker you have to pick up the poop and do all these things... I mean why couldn't we have people who pick up dog poop anyway? Just be a mensch! Pick up some human poop. No, no, I'm telling ya it's disgusting and it's not like a small dog poop which has usually some, some, you know, it's usually because they feed dog dried food so the small like rabbit pellets is pretty easy to pick up this wet

1:37:05 human poop all over San Francisco streets. It's gross! Yeah, that's really not okay. See? They're obsessed with poop, John. Yeah they are and they're pooping everywhere so anyway Another reason to subscribe the newsletter isn't a gem every time but this last was yeah without a doubt valuable information Information you can use and it's great for cocktail parties. Yeah, yeah You can you can sound knowledgeable? I'm a poopologist. I tell you I knew all kinds of things about this yes indeed See

CHAPTER 26 / 41 Discussion

Qatar Diplomatic Crisis, Iranian Hacking Theory

The diplomatic rift between Qatar and other Gulf nations was triggered by a news report that Qatar claims was the result of a hack. While the media blames Russia, the hosts suggest Iran is the more likely culprit, as the hack successfully drove a wedge between Arab nations and aligned with Iran's superior DDoS and cyber capabilities.

qatar· saudi arabia· iran· hacking· donald trump

1:37:50 Oh, enough of that. Yes enough of that I wanted to see what was he gonna say? Well i do have a little analysis here that would be interesting because I've been kind of listening to the Qatar thing and oh The Russians hacked the newspaper and I didn't even know the full story But now I have the full story before me And I can tell you I think I know what's really going on here and it is kind of in these clips but Qatar news hack we play that clip Hi, very good morning. Hope your weekend's going good the early part of it My name is Kevin Owen our top story then Donald Trump has weighed in to the diplomatic crisis among the Gulf states now by accusing Qatar of backing terrorists at a quote very high level The nation of Qatar unfortunately Has historically been a funder of terrorism At a very high level The time had come to call on Qatar To end its funding

1:38:51 They have to end that funding. But former US diplomat Jim Jattruss thinks that Trump's focus on Qatar ignores the elephant in the room The accusation that Qatar is funding terrorism, of course they do. They support the terrorists in Syria the same ones the Saudis support and for that matter Turkey That's really not the issue here evidently this is part of the rivalry between Saudi Arabia and Qatar So it's very strange that in the name of fighting terrorism President Trump is coming down so hard on Qatar in supporting Saudi Arabia which by far is the world's biggest funder of terrorism and its top ideological inspirer. Both Saudi Arabia and Qatar deny any involvement in terrorist activities, a number of Arab countries have severed diplomatic ties though with Doha some even closed their borders with Qatar leaving it really isolated now on the Arabian Peninsula as it stands. The crisis was impart

1:39:48 triggered by an article that was published by Qatar's state-run news agency in which the country's emir was quoted as calling for dialogue with Iran and then went on to criticize the US leader. But then, the Emir denied the comments were ever made and insisted the news agency had actually been hacked. Neighbouring Arab nations as well as the United States as we've just seen apparently weren't convinced by that. Ilya Petrenko breaks down than a growing rift right now in the Gulf under formation of new coalitions I love that. It was a hack, man! Okay here's what my- I have a take on this... I think it WAS a hack Now, they like to brag about the Russians again. Russian, Russian, Russian, Russian... If you remember I think it was about a year ago where I discussed-I visited with this company in San Francisco that is an anti hacking group called CloudFlare and CloudFlare's responsible for blocking IPs universally and- Yeah whenever you get a DDoS they always jump in when someone's getting DDOSed

1:40:47 If you're getting big time DDoS. And one of the things, and I discussed this on the show that leading hackers in the biggest DDoSers is not the Russians or the Chinese it's Iran! That was the weird anomaly that I discovered when I was like oh yeah Iran they are number 1 with doing this stuff. Oh well then that makes total sense then. Iran hacked them Exactly. Iran hacked in, and Iran knew a couple of things one first it promoted themselves and then two they slammed Trump knowing he'd go nuts. Whoa you got butt-slammed!

1:41:27 And deeper into the clip, there's this little tidbit which just sounds like Iran was all over this. Take Qatar ties with Iran business was good indeed but the politics definitely not when in winter 2016 the Saudis came down hard on Tehran drawing the line at war Doha clearly took Riyadh side. Qatar has become the latest country to side with Saudi Arabia and its dispute with Iran after protesters attacked the Saudi embassy there Wow Now it's June this year and we hear this from Tehran on its supposed foes. We are ready to export any kind of foodstuffs to Qatar in light of the sanctions imposed by the Persian Gulf countries. Starve you fools! So they're gonna... I mean, this has just got Iran written all over it. There hasn't been one analyst that has even thought about this possibility And we have thought about it clearly and more I've been thinking about it

1:42:23 I think taking the pipelines into account, this is... Well first of all all of this benefits Russia because there's stuff they can do with Syria and you know they want to stop this pipeline from Qatar or Qatar going up to Turkey and getting their gas into Europe. And so in a way it's helping the Russians but also I think driving a wedge between Iran and the Russians. It seems pretty planned Yeah, well it doesn't seem like a Russian hack like they like to the mainstream media is telling us. If there's a hack at all now I guess the litany is that's not a hack day they actually did it they Amir actually said these stupid things and it wasn't a hack you can hack a newspaper yeah

1:43:10 This was a while ago. This is what, a year ago maybe this came out? No no this has been boiling only recently. Because I think that he... Trump just made his speech a couple days ago but.. If i recall correctly they accused hacking because an article showed up about and it was the emir or whoever it is saying oh yeah you know we just give the Clintons a million dollars and everything works out okay. Recall the story? Vaguely. Yeah, that's a different line of... yeah it does again it sounds like it could be an Iranian hack Totally I don't know why they're so good at this and why has been ignored by the mainstream media this fact Because they don't what do actual work? Yes citizen you may return to your harpsichord No they're not gonna do any work I did come across a fabulous article in The Economist surprisingly enough since its been ruined by the new editor

CHAPTER 27 / 41 Discussion

Global Sand Shortage, Piracy and Construction

A global shortage of construction-grade sand has led to the rise of "sand mafias" and piracy in countries like India and Morocco. Because desert sand is too fine for concrete, beaches are being stripped bare to supply massive construction projects in Singapore and Dubai, including the Burj Khalifa.

sand mining· india· morocco· singapore· burj khalifa

1:44:08 Yes. Now we know that the Maldives and all these other countries like, oh global warming is eroding my house is falling into the ocean were being flooded and we deconstructed that as they are selling their sand Then that, and when you take the sand away from any coast it's not like there is just a hole in the ocean. No! It fills up. Where does it fill up? From the land...from your land that you're sitting on And so this article came out, its month old but I only just found it and I want to share little bit of with you

1:44:46 Sand is in high demand. In some parts of the world, people are going to increasingly great lengths to get their hands on the golden grains Yes a sand mafia in India intimidates locals in order to extract and transport the material. In Morocco and the Caribbean thieves are stripping beaches bare even though fully accounting for illegally mined sand is not possible Sand is easily the most mine material in the world And this according to the United Nations environmental program Their sand and gravel account for up to 85% of everything mined globally each year. And there are pirates, John! Pirates of sand. Thieves stealing sand Singapore and Qatar coincidentally are big importers Australian sand was transported to built the Burj Khalifa tower in Dubai

1:45:44 And I'm thinking, this is a good business. Steel and sand? It's one of these things... The sand and gravel business has always been a good business. And I ran into one of these guys who owned a quarry. And quarries are interesting. First you gotta know what to look for. You can't use desert sand. Desert sand is too thin it's no good Well, the sandy gravel is the best sand at least locally. I just thought it meant this not to do with the piracy of sand which is yeah The beach sand is what you want for this stuff You're talking about and you can't just go to the Sahara because it's almost like powder And in fact when you could be if you've ever been in a sandstorm Which I have Yeah It's a it's just it looks like a fog. It's a fog isn't this? It's not like you're getting sand blasted It's just all this powder that goes in there big wall

1:46:35 It can be, yeah. When it comes up...yeah. When I went to Iraq in 2003 we landed in Kuwait City and we had to stay on the plane for about 45 minutes because of a sandstorm. It was pretty interesting being in the plane while that happened Anyway, this is the sand and gravel guys seem to be like these independent guys who just can live wherever they want They spot a spot spot where oh this looks like it I know what this hill looks like It looks like we can exploit it buys. The land makes us and then gravel pit Exploits it for five or six years making makes a few million dollars And then sells it off to a land developer yeah, I always thought that was a fascinating kind of life

CHAPTER 28 / 41 Discussion

United Nations, SOGI and LGBTI Mandate

The United Nations has appointed an independent rapporteur to address violence and discrimination based on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity (SOGI). The new mandate focuses on the acronym LGBTI, notably excluding "Queer" and other letters from the expanded LGBTQ+ acronym, while seeking to decriminalize same-sex relations in 70 countries.

united nations· sogi· lgbti· sexual orientation· gender identity

1:47:18 Once you learn how to do it, you can just do it. It's like podcasting. Yeah! Sand bunnies are podcasters. Two sides of the same coin. Exactly. And there was a very interesting speech at the United Nations about LGBT. And I figure if you're talking about the globalists, the no nations no borders people. The people who are really laying down the land of political correctness how the world has to be what you call things what you do and don't do...I would think that United Nations is where you can get factual information Would you agree?

1:48:07 No, but go on. I mean of course not! But obviously i'm being somewhat facetious... Okay? The idea is that you know this is the United Nations they're all in on everything and they have uh this is the part of the mechanism they are a big part of the mechanism yes and this is the independent rapporteur which is a job I want Independent rapporteur, which means a guy has to go out and this was for the Human Rights Council. A big human rights meeting The guys that go out and then find out about what's going on with

1:48:51 with gender and sexual orientation and LGBT. And I said, you know what? I'll listen to this guy first he's a good speaker but he's Asian i'm not sure where he is from exactly it was kind of entertaining to listen too But what surprised me is, one the extent of how horrible life is for alternative lifestyles in the world. In general it really made me think wow why are people complaining about America? You have some work to do if you really care about your LGBT brothers and sisters but also the acronym itself now we have tracked this for many years

1:49:36 The acronym clearly, to me is LGBTQQIAAP. That is the most inclusive lesbian gay bisexual bi-curious transgendered queer questioning intersex allied asexual and pansexual I think these that really encompasses everything Wrong! Wrong wrong wrong He's going to introduce us to the correct acronyms And understand that and he has some pronunciation even for us, and he just I thought was entertaining. Um, educational to learn about what's going on before you run it?

1:50:14 And this came from the UN? Yes, the United Nations. The independent rapporteur... So this will be the word of the day! This would be-this would be that definitive statement. Everyone has some form of sexual orientation in short SO and gender identity in short GI. So you gotta write it down John. You got your pencil I better start, you gotta start the clip over because i don't want to miss any of this. Right so remember everybody has some kind of SO yeah i would think so and GI everyone has some form of sexual orientation in short S O and gender identity in short G I The former SO has an external dimension it indicates a person's sexual inclination and feelings towards others

1:51:06 The latter, GI has an internal dimension. It implies how a person self-identifies in regard to his or her own gender which may be different from the gender assigned at birth Even though human rights are inherent to everyone and propel protection for all persons without exception Regrettably, persons with an actual or perceived sexual orientation and or gender identity diverging from a particular social norm are at times targeted for violence and discrimination. Discrimination? And violations are pervasive in numerous settings. Killings, rapes, mutilation torture cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment lashings abductions

1:51:57 arbitrary detention, harassment physical and mental assaults bullying from a young age pressures leading to suicide and discriminatory gestures and measures aggravated by incitement to hatred in regard to SOGI are widespread on several fronts. Alright, so S-O-G-I is really what he's focusing on... This is a guy? This is a guy yeah. Sounds like a woman Yeah well I believe his S O is G A Y Okay, but SOGI that is very important because this is something we need to learn. There's also a pronunciation guide. The international human rights system has been strengthening the promotion and protection of human rights without distinction

1:52:47 The protection of persons on the basis of SOGI or Sogi and the mandate of the independent expert are based on international law. Sogi, John. Sogi is the new one. Sogi. They're like well hold on a second what happened to LGBTQQIAAP? That is gone and it's gonna I think it should piss a lot of people off and I just want to say What he's gonna talk more about she people have already made and paid for their logos. Yes There is a lot of violence against Sogy And I'm not making light of that. Just last week there was a transgender woman in Austin who was raped and beaten with a hammer, you know? Yeah, yeah! Austin! Austin! Austin your liberal capital. That doesn't happen... well it does happen around here too unfortunately Now let's get into the familiar acronym and give it to you straight and we're gonna have to disappoint some people some cues First words are most sensitive under this mandate

1:53:47 The acronym LGBT. Oh yeah, he has a report and a mandate and all... It's a mandate? Yeah oh yeah I got that for you First words are most sensitive under this mandate the acronym LGBT often appears in discussions and is closely linked with this mandate it stands for lesbian gay bisexual and transgender persons The mandate will cover intersex persons, namely I in short where there's a link with SOGI while recognizing that the group has special features not necessarily related to SOGI. So it's LGBTI is the correct acronym according to United Nations mandate if you call yourself queer get out! Get out! Queer is no longer in the book

1:54:39 I find this very insulting. I know people who identify as queer and this is the United Nations. Get their act together! The entry point for the mandate is action against violence and discrimination This is based on existing international law and its interrelationship with SOGI. There is no advocacy from this mandate holder of new rights for particular groups." So he has a mandate, and the mandate which we'll get to in a minute or two has some very specific things that must happen but he's saying look oh this... We're not really making any special rights for any new people anything like that so it's all the same old same old but we got to take some action

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UN Hate Speech Proposals, Islamic Cooperation Opposition

The UN rapporteur's report calls for Internet Service Providers to implement takedown policies for homophobic and transphobic messages. However, the mandate faced significant opposition from the 57-nation Organization of Islamic Cooperation, which refuses to recognize the legitimacy of the LGBTI agenda despite supporting other hate speech restrictions.

hate speech· censorship· organization of islamic cooperation· internet service providers· un mandate

1:55:24 Fifth, also important is the context-specific nature of each country and situation. Let's talk about those countries... It's really bad! It's really really bad what's going on in the world and again when you listen to this just think about all the people complaining about the current administration or just society in general Wow if you really care about LGBTI and SOGI You should be doing some work. Everyone should be doing some work because it's a mess. Various elements interrelate closely with the root causes and the environment behind violence and discrimination I've called them various underpinnings such as A. Decriminalization of consensual same-sex relations

1:56:14 Laws and policies which criminalize consensual same-sex relations are part of the background environment, which leads to violence and discrimination. Some 70 countries criminalized same sex relations... 70? How many countries are there in the world? 170 maybe tops? I can't remember that there is a number it's like 165. Yeah 164 65 so 70 countries criminalize criminalizing We had with criminalized here Until recently. Oh yeah, he mentions this. Which leads to violence and discrimination. Some 70 countries criminalize same-sex relations with particular impact on men who have sex with men. Some 40 countries criminalize same-sex relations between women particularly those who have sex with women. That should be celebrated! There are also challenging implications related with religious laws today. B. Effective anti-discrimination measures

1:57:12 Many countries are still hampered by the lack of or insufficiency of anti-discrimination measures and this is also linked with environment leading to violence and discrimination. This is a longitudinal challenge starting in the home, extending to the educational system, workplace and life beyond The discrimination is also intersectional and aggravating, and aggravated and multiple in its linkage with other issues such as race poverty migration and other vulnerabilities.

1:57:48 C. Legal recognition of gender identity In many countries, transgender persons are not able to have their self-identified gender recognized by the state even with gender reassignment surgery and have to go lifelong abuses and discrimination The fact of non-recognition is interlinked with environment leading to violence and discrimination. This is really bad for my Tourette's because all I can think of now is discrimination, discrimination! D. De-stigmatization linked with de-pathologisation. Depathologisation? This is a big one for me what it what does... What do you think that means? I haven't..I mean I can deconstruct the word and kind

1:58:35 figure out what it means in general but I have no idea what it means in her context or his. Stigma based on SOGI and concomitantly violence and discrimination may arise in a variety of situations including in regard to the medical sector, and this is linked with the issue of pathologization. For example until 1990 even at international level homosexuals were regarded as mentally ill

1:59:12 This exemplified a pathologizing approach looking at LGBTI, regrettably as some form of illness mental order or dysphoria. This approach is now being questioned increasingly." Yeah and I think that the people who really care about LGBTI Sogy issue should really be looking at some other things i think we're doing pretty good here in the states He does, the mandate does have... two more short clips. Does have some ideas as how we're going to change the world. Promotion of education and empathy

1:59:54 Biases and prejudices tend to emerge from a young age, and it is the lack of education or awareness an understanding which may feed the phobias and bigotry which underlie violence and discrimination. This is interlinked with both quality and accessibility of educational spectrum and how to nurture kindness and empathy for SOGI as inherent part of ourselves and others with due respect for sexual and gender identity. So you can just wait for all the educational materials to come out, mandated by the United Nations so that we are all make sure that we're not running afoul of what should be really happening and we do need some conclusions here? In conclusion

2:00:42 I look forward to explore further the various underpinnings already mentioned. I also invite you please to reflect on and respond to the various recommendations in this report which vary from an encouragement to ratify human rights treaties, and apply them well... ...to requests to collect disaggregated data… …to build checks and balances against abusive power… …to work closely with the UN system to promote, protect human rights defenders and to shun violence and discrimination. The preferred path to the future must be that of building bridges premised on prevention of transgressions... Okay. ...remediation for violations... Oh! Remediation of violations? Hmm I'll explain in a minute. ...participation of the concerned groups and protection of human rights for all

2:01:40 resonant with the universal colors of hope and dignity as our shared horizon. Blah blah blah blah blah So, this came down to a vote because this was a mandate and it did not pass because of the 57 strong organization of Islamic cooperation saying they do not recognize his mandate as legitimate Despite him being an external rapporteur. I got his report, which there's no clip of it and he says countries that have... here we go... countries are objections to LGBT agenda important to respond to them in a measured and judicious way bearing in mind the connectivity with international standards consistent

2:02:33 He calls for censorship of dissenting views by Internet service providers through takedown policies for homophobic and transphobic messages, and for hate speech laws, industry codes of conduct, and co-regulation between the government and private sector. I learned a lot from his speech. I found it very informative, and really disappointed that this is what is now being proposed — take down policies... This is all speech! You may not like it! It's all free-speech issues that are... And the irony of course is the same people who want what he proposes

2:03:13 Also, on the other side... Here's what the irony is. The Muslim majority countries voted this down along with some African countries a lot of them partial Muslims because they've done buying into this in a million years it's not gonna happen. No They're the same ones who want these free speech restrictions when it comes to hate speech about them. Yeah, I know so we have a screwball use of Hate speech and I want to mention And I do have a note to read from a reader which kind of touches on some of this is that Katie Hopkins? Oh one of my favorite commentators on LBC I think there's a month ago or so she was fired what oh

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Katie Hopkins, LBC Firing and UK Free Speech

Commentator Katie Hopkins was fired from LBC and placed under police investigation for a tweet following the Manchester bombing. The discussion explores the UK's aggressive prosecution of "hate crimes" on social media while thousands of potential terror threats remain unmonitored, including claims that the Manchester bomber's father was an MI5 asset.

katie hopkins· lbc· hate speech· manchester bombing· mi5

2:03:55 Yeah, you know this. No gone she's done hate speech because of hate speech yeah well her hate speech consisted of a tweet it wasn't even on LBC which is the London Psych name of this radio station in London that has talk shows all day and It wasn't on the station it was that she had tweeted that well We wouldn't have these these terrorist attacks in England if there were no Muslims in the country That is hate speech yes Also known as just speech. Yes, it's actually just speech aka speech I want to read something from one of our producers Duncan all right Adam question why the British are not angry about the terrorist attacks you did a couple days ago Well they seem to be all like oh carry on no we are furious aha

2:04:53 Katie Hopkins has been sacked from LBC and is under police investigation for her angry reaction to the attacks. The police have charged many people for hate crimes on the social media, which has only inflamed the situation. Piers Morgan pointed out about differential treatment of football hooligans and terrorists on the clip you played last Thursday, and the police emphasis on hate crimes whilst 2300 potential terrorists walk freely in the country. Again is only inflaming the situation. The reason that Sadiq Khan loved by Londoners and hated by the rest of the country focused on cost he would at cost of policing I guess

2:05:38 He is a member of the Labor Party and is tipped by the liberal elite to be the new leader in the Labor Party. That's where he got it from when Jeremy Corbyn has been dispatched, one of the attack lines in the election was that during Theresa May's tenure as Home Secretary Interior Manager she kept police members by 20 thousand It's a bit disingenuous as the issue is MI5 obsession with solving every crime by algorithms rather than infiltrating the community with real people. The algo will fix it, don't worry! The algo is all-encompassing. He goes on and on and he does have a couple of little tidbit at the end I'm not gonna read the rest of this...it appears that if the father of the Manchester bomber was an asset for MI5

2:06:20 Which would explain why in your recent security service, FBI I think alerted ours in February no action was taken because presumably they thought he was one of ours. No! Yeah... I thought that was kind of interesting and then the only other interesting thing Was a report that most of the you know, he bitches about 23 thousand people moan about the twenty three thousand all these terrorists 800 I guess it went over there came back and are roaming around? Right Apparently, during the Libyan situation, here it is, sorted by MI5 how the UK government sent the British Libyans to fight Gaddafi.

2:07:04 And then they came back. Yeah, fighters say the government operated an open door policy allowing them to join the rebels as authorities investigate the background of the Manchester bombers because they're from Libya The British government operated in an open-door policy that allowed the Libyan exiles and British Libyan citizens to join in 2011 The 2011 uprising that toppled Muammar Gaddafi even though some had been subject to counterterrorism control orders It goes on There's a mess over there. Wow, I didn't know well you know to be fair we were only playing what we were given uh yeah we do media deconstruction so it's not like i didn't believe that they're pissed off Brits but that's what the news is showing oh I just have a beer! You know ah I didn't even spill my beer

2:07:48 They're like, oh I just wanna have a beer with my friends. Eh who cares? They're not gonna stop us." And I should mention that the two of us are just as susceptible to the brainwashing propaganda if we can't get any other source and I noticed that some of our producer listeners occasionally they drift off and they get suckered or they start thinking well I can do it without this show. I don't need this show to tell me anything. The thing about this show...and I want to emphasize because this has gone on long enough that I've seen its effect Adam and I are both subject to the same hoaxes, internet bullcrap and everything else that goes on. But because we do it...we do a kind of competitive thing with the two of us We can always catch the other guy if he falls trap or if he falls prey to some hoax. It's like a wingman

CHAPTER 31 / 41 Discussion

No Agenda Value Proposition, Reality Check Wingman

The hosts describe their relationship as a "wingman" system that prevents each other from falling for internet hoaxes or propaganda. They argue that by deconstructing news together, they provide a necessary reality check for listeners who might otherwise be pushed into "Dimension B" by mainstream media narratives.

media deconstruction· hoaxes· reality check· dimension b· wingman

2:07:04 And then they came back. Yeah, fighters say the government operated an open door policy allowing them to join the rebels as authorities investigate the background of the Manchester bombers because they're from Libya The British government operated in an open-door policy that allowed the Libyan exiles and British Libyan citizens to join in 2011 The 2011 uprising that toppled Muammar Gaddafi even though some had been subject to counterterrorism control orders It goes on There's a mess over there. Wow, I didn't know well you know to be fair we were only playing what we were given uh yeah we do media deconstruction so it's not like i didn't believe that they're pissed off Brits but that's what the news is showing oh I just have a beer! You know ah I didn't even spill my beer

2:07:48 They're like, oh I just wanna have a beer with my friends. Eh who cares? They're not gonna stop us." And I should mention that the two of us are just as susceptible to the brainwashing propaganda if we can't get any other source and I noticed that some of our producer listeners occasionally they drift off and they get suckered or they start thinking well I can do it without this show. I don't need this show to tell me anything. The thing about this show...and I want to emphasize because this has gone on long enough that I've seen its effect Adam and I are both subject to the same hoaxes, internet bullcrap and everything else that goes on. But because we do it...we do a kind of competitive thing with the two of us We can always catch the other guy if he falls trap or if he falls prey to some hoax. It's like a wingman

2:08:37 We do it all...exactly, exactly. We do it to each other all the time and not that you're noticing on the show all the time but I'd say about three or four times a year one of us will drift off into some bull crap and the other one would say that's bull crap! It's hard to do that by yourself if your buy yourself If you're by yourself, you will get pushed into dimension B and you'll never get back. And when you listen to this show, not only are you not by yourself because you have two of us but the two of us keep a tab on each other so it's actually three people that can maintain kind of a solid view of the universe or reality check just saying. I'd like to say besides just the two of us

2:09:24 we have listeners who send stuff in, producers as we call them. You know mainstream media do they even publish letters to the editor you know like change anything or they just publish them and give us a credit put on our page let him complain over there? Right that's why I read this letter is a good example perfect example perfect example yeah it's true And we appreciate and we really appreciate that. And I would not have gotten the idea that Sadiq Khan would become the next leader of the Labour Party, I mean it's crazy! No no its par for the course man, par for the course. Just because I just kind of bumped into it was on the Google blog

CHAPTER 32 / 41 Discussion

Google Chrome Ad Blocker, Coalition for Better Ads

Google is introducing a native ad filter for the Chrome browser based on standards set by the "Coalition for Better Ads." Critics argue this is a cartel-like move by Google and Facebook to determine which ads are "acceptable," effectively ensuring their own advertising dominance while blocking competitors.

google chrome· ad blocker· coalition for better ads· facebook· digital advertising

2:10:10 They have a new ad blocker for Chrome or what they call I'm sorry filter which is coming out. Have you been reading up on this? Not at all We use chrome A lot of people do most people do well, it's the coalition It's the Coalition for better ads And, and where it is they're coming up with a standard for ad blocking. Uh, that is Google and face bag mainly this is so they get their ads. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, exactly. So they're going to put in some bull crap thing where if you don't want to look at the ads, you can um, you can send money through the website uh, and then still get through

2:11:00 But they are going to determine what a good ad is. So this is very subjective, but personally I don't think ads that tell me that if I take this that I might die or have anal leakage or both... ...is a good ad you know it's not a good ad at all and I would just appreciate if he gave me an ad that I cared about not the thing I just bought which again happens all the time So be on the lookout for the Coalition for Better Ads. I think it's a cartel, it should be illegal honestly. Sounds like it! But it won't be and just you can wait for that to happen. Better ads are in your future thanks to Google and the face bag Here on The No Agenda Show...ads? I don't think so! I'm gonna show my support by donating to NO AGENDA Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah, that'd be fab

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Father's Day Donations, Canadian Exchange Rates

A second donation segment features a Father's Day gift from Candace Harris to her father, Brett Harris, despite her skepticism of the show's "conspiracy" content. The hosts announce they will accept Canadian and Australian dollars at a 1:1 ratio for credits to help international listeners. Several new knights are dubbed, including Sir Rob Miller of Dog Biscuits.

brett harris· candace harris· father's day· de-douching· knighthood

2:11:56 We have a few people to thank and the first one which is at the top of the list here's Candace Harris, she sent a note in I guess we could have bumped her up because i think were going for the rest of the year allow Canadians to donate their native money and will credit them for it. This is a very nice idea... And also Australians! Yes and im glad you're doing that so we're taking a hit Well, we're taking a hit. We're not really taking a hit because they are not going to send us more than anyway it's just that they get more...they are getting more for their money They aren't even getting more for their money 200 bucks to a Canadian is the same as 200 bucks to an American It's 200 bucks! It's not like you are getting paid a fortune But thats my point. My point is were gonna let them be associate for $200 dollars

2:12:54 So, but we're taking the Canadian pesos. Dollar-ets is better I like dollar-ets. Either one, I don't care so let's start with this one which is Candace Harris so will treat this as an associate executive producer and put her on the list for as such I've donated over Canadian 200 which is unfortunately equal to US 150 but when this might still be acceptable to earn my dad Brett Harris a Executive producer credit. Okay, so put to put Brett Harris in there then? Yes. Okay. Associate executive producer would be exact okay on a side note this donation is a Father's Day gift and it's no way I signed him my oh yeah this letter I had to read anyway aside note that is I'm gonna try to do her in the side note side note This donation is a Father's Day gift and in no way is the sign of my support for the show

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Cable Magazine, Diversity and Headscarf Solidarity

Cable Magazine's "Dear White People" cover is criticized as tone-deaf and racist. Additionally, a CNN segment suggesting non-Muslim women wear headscarves in solidarity with Muslims is mocked as extreme virtue signaling, leading to a rare "F-bomb" from John C. Dvorak.

cable magazine· racism· virtue signaling· cnn· headscarf

2:23:24 Do not adjust... that's what it says. Dear white people, do not adjust the colors on your set! Diversity has arrived and multicultural audiences are being served." Very nice. Yeah it's telling us. Yeah you know I don't know if they think that's cool or funny but it's racist. Totally racist. It's just racist to do that. I mean it may be true, I'm fine, I don't care I really don't care, but to do this... Well i just hope they know it's racist. No they don't! They have no- they totally tone deaf and they are tone deaf there you go tone deaf but CNN had a bit on uh well I'll just play this so this is Cuomo and his co-host in the morning um trying to spur on a little bit of

2:24:14 Self moral license, moral self licensing or what is the other one virtue? Virtue signaling signaling yeah virtue signaling since the election the Southern Poverty Law Center has tracked more than 700 hate incidents But Muslim women say a year ago their sense of safety began to change after this picture of San Bernardino killer Tashfeen Malik went public so what they're saying You remember that picture of the two of them The selfie after Malika apparently shot up everybody in the nightclub And no, it was not the wagon. I was just thinking of the picture in the airport where there were two of them. It's a picture of the two in the airport and they were the ones who shot up the government party. The government building with their workmates that shot up their work mates people they worked with. And this woman is claiming that since then discrimination has been off the hook! She can't even pray in public she has to stay home

2:25:12 But CNN has a solution. I'm saying, you know, I met the airport about San Francisco and some guy gets off the elevator in the parking lot and throws down a prayer mat and goes into it. Yeah. That's anything new? You know what I suppose that's kind of interesting guys like that religious kind of something we have to kind of admire right thing. Yeah, I've seen it happen in airplanes Where they were people get into the aisle and throw down their mat and start praying. I haven't seen that oh, yeah Since the election the Southern Poverty Law Center has tracked more than 700 hate incidents But Muslim women say a year ago Their sense of safety began to change after this picture of San Bernardino killer Tashfeen Malik went public

2:25:59 After that, people started to see us differently. Muslim women began taking self-defense classes driven by fear the only places where Abdul Ghani feels free to express that part of Islam is in the privacy of her apartment and her mosque To the incoming Trump administration, this young Muslim woman has this message. When you hold that kind of position and you think it is OK to make these racist Islamophobic sexist statements Really? I can't believe their news organization allows us on the air You know it's really pretty blatant accusations

2:26:42 But again, they have a solution. Make these racist Islamophobic sexist statements there are people unfortunately as crazy as they are who look up to you and they will follow you and They will act out in response to what you're saying It's an interesting story maybe there'll be a movement where people wear the headscarf in solidarity You know even if you're not Muslim Maybe it's the way people shave their heads sometimes in solidarity with somebody who is going through something Maybe you'll see a wave of the opposite I'm gonna do it. I'm all in, and wear a headscarf. You? No! I gotta wear a headscarf because some dumb fuck on TV tells me to There it is ladies and gentlemen note the time John C. Dvorak F-bomb of the day Yeah, I'm gonna try it

2:27:33 Yeah, you'd actually make sure to get a couple pictures I'll put in the newsletter because you would look like a real armor with a head scarf. I think I will look fabulous No doubt about it Let's see, what else do we have happening here? I got a couple of things. Let's get these out of the way then. Okay. Here is the reality winner update let us keep where she is so that we know that. Meanwhile federal contract employee charged with leaking classified information will stay in jail until her trial. Reality winner was denied bond yesterday in Georgia. Prosecutors warned that she might have taken other classified documents.

2:28:15 Not only that not don't they mean they know she or they know she's done that not only that but she um, she Wanted she wrote in her journal that she wanted to blow up the White House which you got from Madonna I should be picking up Madonna. That would do everyone a favor. Mm-hmm Now let's play this. I want to get a kind of catch up with some things Here's the war in Afghanistan update and i have, a question for you hang on don daler This is our western edition three us soldiers were killed today and at least one wounded fighting america's longest war it was apparently an insider attack In eastern afghanistan An afghan army soldier opened fire on the americans before he was killed

CHAPTER 35 / 41 Discussion

Reality Winner, Jail and White House Threats

Federal contractor Reality Winner was denied bond in Georgia after prosecutors revealed she had expressed a desire to "burn the White House down" in her journal. The investigation into her leak of classified NSA documents continues as authorities suspect she may have taken additional sensitive files.

reality winner· leaking· classified documents· georgia· nsa

2:27:33 Yeah, you'd actually make sure to get a couple pictures I'll put in the newsletter because you would look like a real armor with a head scarf. I think I will look fabulous No doubt about it Let's see, what else do we have happening here? I got a couple of things. Let's get these out of the way then. Okay. Here is the reality winner update let us keep where she is so that we know that. Meanwhile federal contract employee charged with leaking classified information will stay in jail until her trial. Reality winner was denied bond yesterday in Georgia. Prosecutors warned that she might have taken other classified documents.

2:28:15 Not only that not don't they mean they know she or they know she's done that not only that but she um, she Wanted she wrote in her journal that she wanted to blow up the White House which you got from Madonna I should be picking up Madonna. That would do everyone a favor. Mm-hmm Now let's play this. I want to get a kind of catch up with some things Here's the war in Afghanistan update and i have, a question for you hang on don daler This is our western edition three us soldiers were killed today and at least one wounded fighting america's longest war it was apparently an insider attack In eastern afghanistan An afghan army soldier opened fire on the americans before he was killed

CHAPTER 36 / 41 Discussion

Afghanistan War, Poppies and Pipeline Protection

The 16-year war in Afghanistan has cost over $800 billion with little perceived accomplishment. The hosts argue the true motivations for the continued presence are the protection of the opium poppy trade, the Unocal pipeline, and the extraction of rare minerals, rather than the stated goals of fighting terrorism.

afghanistan· poppies· unocal pipeline· minerals· defense spending

2:29:00 The US casualties have not been identified. The Taliban is claiming responsibility, releasing this photo of the man they say was the gunman The attack comes as the Trump administration is considering sending more troops to Afghanistan to help in the fight against the Taliban, Al Qaeda ISIS and affiliated terror groups. Since 2001 more than 2200 US troops have died in Afghanistan More than 20 thousand have been wounded The 16-year war has cost American taxpayers more than 800 billion dollars We're number one So the question to you is what have we accomplished? What, 14 years and 800 billion dollars. By the way 800 billion dollars that could have been spent fixing the roads of the United States it's almost a trillion dollars probably a trillion also... You could've cleaned San Francisco streets of all poop! There wouldn't be any poop. What have we accomplished? What is the point of us being there in the first place? Three things

2:30:04 Three things, I can tell you what they are. Well okay but i know what they are too but... ...I'm gonna ask more questions after you tell me the three on your list Number one The poppies Number two The Unical pipeline and number three The minerals The unical pipeline could be there without us being there Well you need- You need pipeline protection You don't, you can do pipeline protection in other ways than having... We do with drones. Wait are you telling me we draw $800 billion to protect this one pipeline? Well hold on a second, hold on. It's a JIP! That's well yeah it's different to say it's a JIP. We know what the toilet seat costs at the Pentagon but that's what it has accomplished and we're number 1

2:30:54 It has accomplished nothing and the poppies are ruining this country. We're getting too much heroin and other drugs in here, it's encouraged with the whole roundabout thing with this fentanyl king and all the rest of this stuff going on is ridiculous we got the country all drugged up. We've lost 2,000 soldiers and 20,000 injured $800 billion that could be better spent And the minerals you mentioned? What are we doing about the minerals? We've been there 14 years and haven't extracted anything! Oh that's lame They've got to stop this stupid war. It's wasting our money! Yeah, but that would ruin our economy because we run on war And screw you and Akel's pipeline It is but if you look at all the bases certainly in Waziristan Down near the Pakistani border where we have the drones thats pipeline protection That's why no one is going to sit there and sit in front of a pipeline No, you have drones Hey hey hey you jihadi towel head

CHAPTER 37 / 41 Discussion

Jim Rogers, Economic Collapse Prediction

Investor Jim Rogers predicts a massive global economic collapse, potentially the worst in his lifetime, driven by unprecedented debt levels in the US and China. While Rogers expects governments and institutions to fail, the hosts compare the current situation to the 1857 depression and suggest the fallout may be less severe than Rogers' dire warnings.

jim rogers· economic crash· debt· federal reserve· 1857 depression

2:31:56 That's what we do. We help extract and we help protect, to extract and protect. It's a jip! It's too much money Unical should be picking up the tab on this thing Well I got a clip here just speaking about our economy maybe the world economy you have predicted that uh... we got a big one coming we gotta yeah whopper now whopper it's a cycle And Jim Rogers concurs with you and he was on, I think it was Business Insider.

2:32:31 And I'd like to share his thinking about what is going to happen in the next year. Well, what's going to happen is this is gonna continue some stocks and America turning into a bubble The bubbles gonna come then it's gonna collapse you should be very worried So when is this going to happen later this year or next later this year or next write it down? And what will trigger it Well, it's interesting because these things always start where we're not looking. In 2007 Iceland went broke And people said, Iceland? Is that a country? They have a market. And then Ireland went broke and then Bear Stearns went broke and then Lehman Brothers went broke. They spiral like that. Always happens where we're not looking. I don't know it could be an American pension plan that goes broken many of them are broke as you know it could be some country were not watching it can be all sorts of things to

2:33:23 to be war, unlikely to be war. But it's going to be something. And how big a crash could we be looking at? It can be the worst in your lifetime! I've had some pretty big ones in my life and that was long. It could be the biggest of my lifetime and I'm older than you know it's gonna be serious stuff. We've had financial problems in America, let's use America. Every four to seven years since the beginning of the republic? Well it has been over eight Is that true every four to seven years since the beginning of the Republic? Well not really we have had long periods where it's not every, what did he say? Four to seven. That's what he said. Every four to seven years since the Republic began. I think there is ups and downs but maybe...I think from my look at the cycles that I think he may be exaggerating a little bit. Okay. Every four or seven years since the beginning of the Republic

2:34:16 Well, it's been over eight since the last one. This is the longest or the second-longest in recorded history so it's coming and then next time It comes you know in 2008 we had a problem because of debt Henry the debt now That debt was nothing compared to what's happening now. In 2008, the Chinese had a lot of money saved for a rainy day. It started raining and they started spending the money. Now even the Chinese have debt and their debt is so much higher than Federal Reserves or Central Bank in America balance sheet is up over five times since 2008 it's gonna be the worst thing you're the worst in my lifetime too Be worried

2:34:58 I am worried. Good, good Can the Fed rescue us? Can anybody rescue us? They will try they will what's going to happen is they're gonna raise interest rates some more then when things started going really bad people are gonna call and say you must save me this Western civilization it's going to collapse and the fed who's made up of bureaucrats and politicians will say we better do something so they will try but it won't work It'll cause some rallies but it won't work this time You're going to see governments fail. You're going to see countries fail this time around. Iceland failed last time, other countries failed. You're gonna see more of that. You're gonna see parties disappear. You're gonna see institutions that have been around for a long time. Lehman Brothers has been around over 150 years gone not even in memory for most people well you're gonna see a lot more of that next time around whether it's museums or hospitals or universities or financial firms

2:35:53 Horowitz just texted me. Rogers has predicted a collapse every year for the past seven years Exactly I've very followed this guy doesn't even live in the United he's lives in Asia and some Singapore Singapore someplace fancy. He's got a fancy fancy thing going on anyway, yes But I think is generally right but a couple of things at least from my perspective studying this and then talking about like you know blah blah blah blah, blah, blah. It's not going to be a pleasant experience but if it's what I think which is that it's a fractal of 1857

2:36:39 economic depression, which by many accounts from that era claimed it was the first true depression in the United States as opposed to these little skirmishes called panics that came and went. Everything's analogous to the 1857 collapse which means printing money and gold infusion into the economy back then It's about one-third as bad in terms of throwing, printing money as it was in 1857 when all this gold was injected into the economy. About $15 trillion worth? So I think it'll be about one third is better. I think it's just going to be like 1937 maybe that era... Oh! I remember well yes A year and half of bad times and that's gonna be it. It's not gonna be as bad as he makes us sound like the whole world coming to an end. This is ridiculous. The idea is donate and donate often

CHAPTER 38 / 41 Discussion

Apple Podcast Analytics, Impact on Advertising

Apple is introducing episode-level analytics to its podcast app, allowing creators to see exactly when listeners skip or stop an episode. This shift toward transparent data is expected to disrupt the podcast advertising industry, as many "mainstream" shows have been inflating their listener numbers based on raw download stats.

apple podcasts· analytics· podcast advertising· rss· downloads

2:37:36 Because it's coming. Well usually yes, well yeah absolutely you should donate often Yeah It's gonna be it's gonna be problematic We will you know if usually affects about a third of the public really badly there are the two-thirds? These things the podcasters get by because getting by anyway and I think you know it'll probably cut into our our cash flow, but I think it should be okay. We still have to- I hope so! It'll show us how good our model is well there is a way out potentially um...I got more details on Apple's new podcast app and what it will do

2:38:23 And I'm very pleased. Now, you know... Okay well then I have something to ask you. According to Comic Strip Blogger the new podcast app requires a 3000 by 3000 image Yes we already do that! I've been doing that for six months 3000 by 3000, you just blow up the 512 by 512? That's what I've been doing. Yeah. Just all pixelated it's gotta be a mess! Yeah this was... that decision was made funny enough and when we had the podcasters meeting at Lance Armstrong's house and the Apple guys were there they said well what do y'all think 3,000-3,000 for the artworks? I don't give a crap i'll do whatever to blow it up whatever you guys want to do

2:39:06 That's one of the standards for them for highlighting if you want to be on their homepage. Best to be that size specifically. That's ridiculous! No screen can even maintain an image that size I have no idea why they wanted it But let me tell you what it'd be like about I think 512 is fine. I think it's a good size for an image on the screen What are they going to do? It projected on a billboard Yeah, maybe you need a little more resolution. I gotta tell you man Well we'll talk about my my apple issues in a minute but here's what's going to happen with a new podcast app and you know whether you like it or not Apple does pull the cart

2:39:44 They are the ones that have the easiest subscription method. They have you know it just look sometimes We've looked at our server stats its main the main certainly mobile client is iPhone Yep, so here are the changes that are coming And so and at first I'm not a big fan of this but they're doing something they're doing something legal there They're expanding their namespace which is legal under RSS 2.0 and it's going to include specifications to allow podcasts to define individual seasons, and explain whether a episode is a teaser, full episode or bonus content. These extensions will be read by the podcast app... ...and used present a podcast in a richer way than the current more linear approach

2:40:30 So that way I guess you can, you can say oh here's the season one of Serial. That's what it's made for pretty much and NPR pushed that but here is the thing that i'm very excited about. Also I see premium content also used by... Yeah same idea! Yeah freemium but they are going to open up two podcasters in episode analytics Which means, you know... So all these people are like, oh I got a million listeners! 300 million downloads. Oh we're great advertising our podcast no no here's what's gonna happen it will be using anonymized data from the app to show podcasters how many people are listening where in the app people are stopping or skipping they can do that sure they can

2:41:23 But only for the Apple podcast app. Oh yeah, well that's streaming though it's only streaming No no no no no they can't do that! It's not only... Get off of that I don't know what you're talking about but when you hit play whether its streaming or its downloaded That is registered in the app You will have to go into apple to get these statistics But this is going to become the norm. This is how it works, because you can say alright its just a sample but its probably the biggest sample of any player and advertisers are gonna say show me your apple stats and your all gonna be fucked! You mainstream douchebags cause you've been lying about your numbers?

2:42:06 lying, and it will be very interesting to watch what happens with podcast advertising. I agree with that! It's going to be very interesting and personally i'm very excited because you and I can see exactly what's going on and not have to share it with anybody. We don't yeah we don't tell advertisers hey look we've got millions and millions of listeners. Mm-hmm it's gonna...I guarantee you this is gonna ruin some careers. We'll see mmm I can imagine it being A lot of these advertisers seem to be pretty lax about getting scammed, which is why we promote this model because we're not cheating anybody. No, certainly not!

2:42:51 I don't even know how many people listen. It'll be interesting to find out." Yeah, it's a good number. It's obviously a good number if you reverse engineering... But we don't really know! We just really don't there is no way to accurately or even semi-accurately determine that anyone who tells you they do are liars. Well, you can reverse engineer and get within a hundred and fifty thousand. No I disagree. So within 150,000? I totally disagree you cannot come up with those numbers no Okay well i'll come up with some reverse engineered numbers And then we'll compare it to the real number good i'm ftp-ing the log files to you now no no i go by no no that's not The way i do it I Do it by reverse engineering the donations yes okay i gotcha

2:43:36 Because so many people are gonna donate under whatever circumstances, using old models that are used in direct marketing. You can kind of figure out how many people are listening. Now if you're way off one way or the other it can have some implications but generally speaking I think most of our listeners don't donate. And I by most, I mean most too bad it's anonymized data and we can't just like you know if you're like that. Hey hey its Adam! Hey Bill! Hello. Hi, it's Adam Curry hey how you doing? What? Hey hi it's Adam Curry your guardian of reality hey listen we've noticed that you've been listening to the show for about 10 years and have not donated. You talking about no agenda I got your personal douchebag right here. What?!

CHAPTER 39 / 41 Discussion

Robot Calls, Uncanny Valley and IBM Watson

Telemarketing robot calls are becoming more sophisticated, now using "boiler room" background noise to simulate a real office environment. The discussion touches on the "Uncanny Valley" effect and the difficulty of integrating IBM's Watson AI into practical business applications despite heavy marketing.

robot calls· uncanny valley· ibm watson· sdk· boiler room sound effects

2:44:28 Bastard. Here's what I'm working on, because there were some other things that happened during this Comey fracas We had a couple air strikes against the Syrian government but wasn't reported See we have a repeal of Dodd-Frank which i am reading currently We have... What else do we have? Well there was the explosion at the US embassy in Ukraine also not really discussed Nope So I'm working on some of that for Thursday show well. I got a couple of things I got one that I wanted to finish with but I do want to mention something That's kind of interesting to our listeners, which is I got another robot call. I didn't record it unfortunately It wasn't ready oh geez, but I have to give these guys some credit There was a robot and she sounded just like a person But when you asked her if she's a robot there's a long pause

2:45:19 It's like way too long and then she comes back, and she says some bullcrap about well. We used high technology But I said what that means you are a robot Long pause and she comes back with some other nonsense hey you stumped the algo but The interesting thing, unlike the other previous calls which were kind of creepy because they had that wacky canyon or whatever it is where you try to be like a human in cartoon style and always has something creepy about it. This old version was creepier. Wait wait what are you talking about? It's called crazy. Somebody in the chatroom, it was called Crazy Valley. So it is a term that used to describe people trying to do computer reproduction of humans and then they don't move around right. I'll get you the name next show if somebody doesn't come up with it Anyway Uncanny Valley. Are you reading the chat room? No, just what I said anyway so no I'm not

2:46:21 So here's the deal, it was kind of uncanny valley when I first heard this robot. This time... It was covered up by boiler room sound effects! To make it sound real? As if she was in a boiler room! Nice! I was very impressed by that. Hmm. So instead of just a lone robot talking to me with silence and so every time she went silent, it went dead silent like you know creepy CD super-silence It's just noise. There is a bunch of racket going on, like a bunch of people talking in the background. Well done! Dynamite improvement Have you seen all the Watson commercials? And it's not like we didn't predict this would happen I hate these commercials Oh my god The Talking Box Yeah And I hear... I'm still learning! I read a lot of the IT dude named Ben Dudetts name Bernadette

2:47:18 blogs and so really it's an SDK into Watson. It apparently is really problematic to integrate it into anything, and you know, great marketing is what it is. Oh yeah well IBM has always been pretty good at that. Something you can tell your board... You know we got Watson on the case don't worry. Yeah Watson here man! I need that voice does someone have a computerized Watson voice? I'm sure someone has a version of it oh we need that Yeah, it's probably some guy. Anyway I got one last clip because it was just about something you might know about or... Wait wait wait if that's the last clip let me do a shorty before because your mind isn't that good It just surfaced It's Seth Rich talking to the DNC or the DNCC About ballot integrity Excuse me, Seth Rich with the DNC

CHAPTER 40 / 41 Discussion

Air Traffic Control Privatization, NextGen System

Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao testified regarding a proposal to privatize US air traffic control into a non-profit entity. The hosts argue this is a move to bypass FAA bureaucracy and implement the "NextGen" automated system, which they fear will lead to dangerous over-reliance on algorithms and the eventual removal of human pilots.

elaine chao· faa· air traffic control· privatization· nextgen

2:48:17 I think some of you have spoken about provisional ballots and rejected ballots. We've looked at as an outside practitioner with a vested interest in training our voters, how do we get better access to data that tells us why ballots are rejected? Why ballots are cast as provisional so that we can analyze that and then develop better training guides? No. Their answer... Yeah, good one. Good punchline you could have finished with that. So this is a clip I want you to discuss if you have any knowledge of it or what's going on but listen to this This is about the privatizing air traffic control in the United States Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao has appeared before the US Senate Commerce Committee this week To answer questions about the Trump administration's proposal to privatize air traffic control In the United States President Trump has described the current air traffic control situation

2:49:14 as quote horrible and broken adding that the way to fix it is by transferring some of the responsibilities to a private organization. Joining me now at the latest is Boombus correspondent Manuel Rapalo. Manny let's start with the proposal itself this is the first time we're hearing the US Transportation Secretary outline this plan what did she outline over the details of this? Sure and on Up until now, when we heard that initial announcement by President Trump it was very vague as he tends to be. Calling the system broken and saying that for once the flights are going to be on time, that sort of thing. Thankfully Secretary Chao did speak before the Commerce Committee this week actually giving the details about plan outlining exactly what is is.

2:49:55 And privatization of air traffic control, by the way is not a new concept. This is something that airlines have been prioritizing and pushing for since the 80's and 90's and lawmakers as well have also attempted at making this a possibility but it has never actually been adopted so I'm going to play you a clip from Secretary Chao talking exactly about what the privatization plan is all about This administration has taken a bold step and joined many of our counterparts worldwide by separating air traffic control operations from the safety oversight functions of the FAA. This administration's proposal will create a separate, non-governmental nonprofit cooperative to operate our country's air traffic control system

2:50:45 The new entity would be a fully capitalized, financially self-sustaining entity funded by users of its services. So the reason that we're seeing this sort of momentum behind the privatization idea right now is because existing next generation technologies that pilots and airlines rely on for commercial air travel it already exists just its too slow to catch on It's not being implemented fast enough Bullshit! Alright, I'll give you the answer. Yes, I do know about this and we just didn't get to it because of all the other stuff This is not about the privatization bit that non-profit and you know Partnership they really are not telling us what it is but would be a public private partnership And the reason is The systems in place that the FAA uses which I think are okay

2:51:41 This is just marketing, oh it'll be cheaper you'll be on time. You know all this stuff It is just a ploy because the current FAA administration is not able to implement The next gen system and this I have a huge problem with we've discussed that on the show you can go to search.nashownotes.com or maybe even no agenda player has one of the episodes The next gen is this crazy bureaucratic dude named Ben Dream that we can automate everything. And eventually you won't even need a pilot, you don't need air traffic controllers and planes will be talking to each other it's gonna be a disaster. Look hear me now believe me later when I reboot my router before every show the whole house goes haywire

2:52:32 All the Sonos is disconnected, the Nest turns it up to 75. You have to go back and tell it to go down again This is not- this is not going to end well Uh...this dream of oh you know we don't need these stupid pilots who are half of them are jihadis they're gonna kill us or they're drunk or whatever Good luck with that Next gen is crap in my humble opinion And that's why I asked. Yes, and that's what this is about it's not about how its being financed It's about bringing in the computers Bringing in the algos you know the same ones that show me ads of stuff I just bought You just bought two minutes ago Yeah Oh its still showing me this little magnetic phone mount Thanks Amazon And... Thanks Obama Exactly thanks Obama Alright everybody That is it for our program for today

CHAPTER 41 / 41 Discussion

Show Outro, Climate Change Remix

The hosts sign off with their traditional "Adios, mofos" and play a listener-produced song. The episode concludes with a chaotic audio remix featuring Al Gore and various news clips regarding climate change, droughts, and the industrial revolution.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· climate change· al gore· remix

2:53:31 and we will return on Thursday, obviously. You never know what can happen in the meantime things do seem to happen these days. Something will happen somewhere and your guardians of reality will be right on top of it as usual Please remember to support us at Dvorak.org for that Thursday show And until we meet again I'm coming to you from the common law condo Broadcasting live from The Cluedio in downtown Austin Texas We are FEMA Region 6 on the map if you're looking for it. Until Thursday in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry! And from Northern Silicon Valley where...I forgot the FEMA region but it doesn't make a lot of difference The traffic's still jammed up and there's lotsa potholes. I'm John C. Dvorak. ...and poopin' the streets! Until Thursday everybody and y'know what we say... Adios, mofos!!! Well I want to mention be like a pilgrim on reprieve

2:54:44 I know every meme from the gout of the TV. Whispin' is the name of the D and reality's washed away as much So here is my donation for the sake of kidmonation Cause I want you and the truth will set me on no agenda

2:55:26 Like a knight at the high end of Round Table and more On all agendas Sending hundreds of dollars to people I don't even know For a podcast coming over my phone Yesterday, which... Even that was you know The universes have never been so apparent and separate from me Alright alright let's try this Wat je zegt bij jezelf

2:56:11 Bane's elf magic opened earlier yesterday which even that was, you know the universes have never been so apparent and separate from my mind. Oh! Okay alright let's try this out. This is our future. Bane's elf changes top of the counting hundred because the did what you said yesterday which will be Gertrude Stein. Okay alright let's try this. I need your corpdor to help us fast enough 5 to the town 800. Florida's in drought right now, but we haven't met it enough! We have to be presentable. Parent our future is what you want... Even that? With time changing fast enough So a parent can separate yesterday. We have to decarve. Either one of these is Stone Emergency with another. Poor people are gonna die. Downforce. We've had an elf magic open-open legless grammar. In areas they've never been before

2:57:16 in less than 10 years. We have to decarbonize right now. Wait a minute, wait a minute! Once in a thousand... It's a direct cause and effect relationship with the... Open your downpours You couldn't hear this one coming With COMAlpha magic help People are people of people at a time Someone sent me pretty good articles Yeah I mean this is-this hashtag Even they say it might be .2 degrees over 100 years They've been sewn separate... Okay alright let's try this

2:57:54 He was in a Florida's in drinks. Predicting the future is notoriously difficult. Damn it! Where do we come to? The Vogtland California. Calling me a denier, that is a word... You want answers?! I WANT THE TRUTH!!! You can't handle the truth. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah... Well, we lost a lot of time It has the magnitude of the Industrial Revolution but the speed of the Digital Revolution Every night on the TV news is like a nature hike through The Book Of Revelation Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah... 70% of Florida's in drought right now Zuri just declared

2:58:47 An emergency. Another one of these is climate related. It has the magnitude of the industrial revolution, we lost a lot of time. It has the magnitude of the industrial revolution once in 1000 years down force in less than 10 years in the United States. We have to move faster. It's not just the scientific community, mother nature were still not changing. It has the magnitude of the industrial revolution with the speed of digital revolution

2:59:53 Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Well, we lost a lot of time! Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah The best podcast in the universe! Adios mofo. Dvorak dot org slash N A