Episode 934 · Thursday, 1 June 2017

Weaponized Tech

Hillary Clinton targets Cambridge Analytica and Russian information warfare while the Pentagon signals a high-altitude warning to North Korea through successful missile defense testing.

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About this episode

Hillary Clinton introduced the concept of weaponized tech at the Code Conference, alleging that a coordinated effort between 1,000 Russian agents and automated bots influenced the 2016 election. During an interview with Kara Swisher and Walt Mossberg, Clinton defended her private email server and blamed her electoral loss on the reopening of the FBI investigation by James Comey.

The narrative of foreign interference expanded to include teenagers in Macedonia operating fake news sites like the Denver Guardian. Clinton further alleged that Robert Mercer and Cambridge Analytica forced the Trump campaign to hire Steve Bannon and Kellyanne Conway in exchange for psychographic data. Meanwhile, the Pentagon successfully intercepted a mock Intercontinental Ballistic Missile over the Pacific, signaling a deterrent to North Korea. In domestic politics, Roger Stone identified Deputy National Security Advisor Dina Powell as a primary White House leaker, while UK Home Secretary Amber Rudd defended an internal MI5 investigation into the Manchester bombing.

Controversy surrounded Kathy Griffin following a graphic photo shoot, drawing comparisons to the 2001 dismissal of Bill Maher. The viral covfefe tweet from Donald Trump sparked a wave of media hysteria, with MSNBC anchor Katie Tur expressing concern that a presidential typo could trigger nuclear war. The broadcast concludes with a look at the Evergreen State College protests and a George Carlin audio remix.


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CHAPTER 01 / 44 Discussion

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak Open No Agenda 934

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the broadcast from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley. The hosts discuss the confusion of the holiday week following Memorial Day. Curry notes a subconscious error in his opening script regarding the "dorkiest corner" of the internet.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· austin· silicon valley· cluedio

00:00 Woo! Brewskies for everyone. Deconstructing fake beheadings since 2009 and broadcasting live from the darkest corners on the internet here in the capital of the drone star state, In The Cluedio. In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where i am reminded that olives make a healthy snack I'm John C. DuBois Just Be Careful Of The Pit

00:39 I think i said dorkish corner instead of darkest corner. You did! I was gonna actually say that somehow working in but I couldn't, I only had to always... I think it's kind of correct It's factually correct yeah the dorkiest corner The dorkist corner? I'm here in the dorkist corner Yeah you are actually Hey oh my goodness Austin Crazy week though with uh with Monday being a holiday I get confused man what day is it Is it Wednesday? Is it Friday? Is it Sunday? I lose all sense of time doing this show. You do? Yes, I do! You haven't missed the show because you thought it was a Wednesday No But i did not...I hadn't set my alarm for this morning which is there you go Oh that was subconscious beginning at the end ladies and gentlemen yes yeah This how it ends Hey before we get into news or whatever have a little update Do you recall My problem with changing my address

CHAPTER 02 / 44 Discussion

Microservices Architecture Failures and Credit Card Address Verification

A persistent issue with updating a home address on a credit card leads to a broader discussion on the failures of Microservices Architecture (MSA). Verified by Visa and services like Smarty Streets are identified as points of failure that prevent legitimate transactions and service orders for new buildings. The discussion highlights how modern automated databases lack human overrides for non-standardized physical addresses.

microservices· address verification system· visa· smarty streets· united airlines

01:41 on my credit card? Yes, it was a very good story. Well there's a tale to the story it continues so just a quick recap I wanted to change the new address on my...I only have one credit card because you have to have yeah I had that when I was dating what?! Yeah! You can't live without without a smartphone and a credit card if your dating cash yeah okay cash baby sure baby cash well airline tickets gets a little more complicated And be done. Yeah, well okay good I'll need some help here's what happened so i could not change the new address because according to the bank's database of the credit card bank for the credit cards database that that address did not exist so they said you can't do that you're doing it wrong keep trying and as you recall I called them and then they let's stop for a second and re-emphasize

02:37 The one small aspect of this, which is that you're living in a place with a bona fide address. Post office guy comes by and gives you mail but yet the bank looks at his statement and says there's nothing there! Well it gets better Why don't they just take that address that you gave them and put in the database? I'm gonna tell you why...I found out why But not after I ran into another issue So Tina and I were booking some travel, and for a number of reasons United is the one that is going to take us where we need to go. so I'm looking at United... And okay you know actually how will drive to Houston? It'll be cheaper that way long doesn't matter. So I'm checking out and United has the verified by visa upon checkout, and I have a visa card

03:30 And I go in, and I click submit. And the Verified by Visa comes up and it swirls around and says, ah! We cannot verify your house number or apartment number please do it properly So I go through this three to four times. Like okay let's call them up. And I called the credit card they called the verified by visa people And they give me a whole long song and dance, and these is a different division. They have nothing to do with my credit card." And I said look it's not working, and I actually told her this story. I said there's something in your database...and she says no no no, you're over your limit. Okay whatever! Whatever which could have been true by the way but that's not the point. Yeah but still. So then Tina says oh I have a Visa card

04:20 And we try her Visa card. Exactly the same thing, and she's not... I mean this girl she pays off her credit card diligently rule follower She says i'm not on my limit at all exactly the same thing cannot verify and here is what I've uncovered now a little perturbed by it We can't buy these tickets with visa cards and we don't have any I don't know if MasterCard would be any different but here is what going on This is because of the multitude of AVSs. known as address verification systems. One of them, which is used quite a lot is called Smarty Streets. Smarty streets! Alright this is like a column I've been meaning to write on microservices architecture Well it's breaking down bigly right now It breaks down bigly everywhere There are people... I'm having similar problem with this Pop Money guys Do you know that there are people who move to new building

05:19 or newly built home, and they can't get phone service internet service. They can't get anything because the phone companies cable companies you don't exist we in they will not even take orders This is a huge problem and there's, and I researched for probably about an hour-and-a-half last night. There's no central place you can say hey this is a real building it has 38 floors you might want to consider putting it into your database in the meantime all I get is nah you're overdrawing your limit No no no no no I know what's going on here

05:58 This is one of those unintended consequences. Actually, I like what your title better. What would you call the failure of microservices? Is that what you called it? Yes and this is a tip of the iceberg all these companies have been sold a bill of goods on this MSA micro services architecture. And I first ran into this when I was doing it. We got we got the AVS for the MSA So we have this so all everyone is Silicon Valley uses these things because you can put together a huge corporation with all kinds of capabilities It's almost a fractal of the way JavaScript works. Yeah, yeah Interesting analogy no yes and so which makes nothing but sense cuz it's all based on your similar code

06:42 Yeah, that is true. But so you've got all these systems put together and so I have run into this problem at least twice or three times where one of these modules fails but because of the architecture itself There is no real good way with most of these companies because they don't know how to do it, I guess. Or they can't do it—I'm sure somebody does it right—but there should be fail-safe mechanisms in there and there's not and your case is a perfect example! There is no reason that this is happening. And the only reason why, as far as I can tell by their use of address verification system is just for the website input before you task their database, I presume...

07:31 JavaScript is a great example because Javascript, you'll recall... Oh! I'm sure you've seen it. No input your phone number like this no dashes, no plusses, nothing That's a javascript saying uh-uh before we even send this query off You've got to fix with your inputs in your fields that you filled out Right which they could do at their end with some other code Yes But that's just local on the browser. Now we're talking to a database, and God knows which database they use... And the thing is I don't know how many people will call to complain How many people have run into this in my building? I don't know They all have! Just looking around this address verification stuff has a lot of problems for people and I just love Professor Ted because he predicted all this

08:25 Can we theorize that if you had not made the address change or tried to, you'd still be in business? Yeah. Yeah, of course. Why wouldn't it work? It would work yeah I'm pretty sure what so you should have some the mistake is on your new baby I am so no well technically they change it in The credit card database so technically that's their problem now This is one reason among many that I use post office box for all my credit cards. That's really nice aggressive idea Although right go it doesn't make a difference

09:01 Well, post office boxes are established. It's not like they're new. Oh good you should write that column because it's a problem and I think you'll get a lot of people saying hey good one yeah they gonna say good when those are going to come with it that's the kind of downside there you go all right hey good newsletter I liked your predictions about Kathy Griffith Yeah, I might as well outline them. So some people don't get the newsletter or they reject the newsletter they hold their hand up and say get this newsletter out of here! Uh yeah, I will predict that this is a...I don't think she meant it to go this way

CHAPTER 03 / 44 Discussion

Kathy Griffin Career Outlook and Bill Maher Comparison

Predictions regarding Kathy Griffin's career follow her controversial photo shoot involving a severed head likeness of Donald Trump. The trajectory of her public apology and firing from CNN is compared to Bill Maher's 2001 dismissal from ABC after comments regarding the 9/11 terrorists. The analysis suggests a multi-year path to professional rehabilitation through the talk show circuit.

kathy griffin· donald trump· bill maher· cnn· political incorrect

09:40 But it's gonna go this way whether she likes it or not, which is she gets fired from a bunch of gigs She's repentant Since she is a liberal and since everybody hates Donald Trump and they would like to see that severed head in real life They will bring her back to the fold one step at a time baby steps And bring on the talk shows where she'll apologize profusely. And then my thinking was I'll either show up picture of the severed head so we review the the moment and I thought she would try to like bring the severed head on the set. Yes, in a wig box i'm thinking. In a wig box but with a carrying case! And I further said that the producers of such shows will not allow that but what can possibly happen is they had can go on a tour

10:30 Get an agent even and start showing up as a- I hear William Morris is already calling. Yeah, can I represent the head? And then the head will float around museums and exhibitions and gallerias...as The Head And she'll come out fine. She'll get a better job, but it's going to take her a couple years. That was what happened to Bill Maher. I mean Bill Maher is on his show at Network Show and he says Americans are cowards and the terrorists are the heroes. You know you know I remember that very clearly. I was living in New York it was politically incorrect

11:07 I recall the look, I'd have to watch it but i recall it differently. He didn't say Americans are cowards he says you cannot call the terrorists cowards because they were very brave to kill themselves in the airplane that's what he said. I don't recall him saying... No he did say that but then he specifically referred to the cruise missiles as a bunch of as a cowardly act by the Americans ah okay so he is out so they fire him And that was a tsunami of whoa, both from what he said and both for the firing. The whole thing was crazy. Yeah yeah and he was out for awhile in his persona non grata. So Kathy is uh she's been fired from the CNN New Year's Eve gig which is like oh I know but I was disappointed last night in the midst of all this verified by not verified by Visa Turn on pooper!

11:59 I'm sure he'll love Cathy on. No, that was very...I mean what an opportunity! Why wouldn't they put her on? Well i think they're gonna-i think they're working out what to do. A couple of things came out of this one is that Al Franken Oh yes he's moved to the forefront now as a pretty boy in the Democratic Party When I have a clip here I want you play which is woman supporting It's kind of an ask Adam. This is a woman supporting Griffin, I got so many clips have to look now

CHAPTER 04 / 44 Discussion

Al Franken and Public Reaction to Kathy Griffin

Senator Al Franken's association with Kathy Griffin is examined alongside public defenses of her imagery. A clip features a supporter arguing that the First Amendment does not require private entities to amplify speech. Griffin's video apology is reviewed, with the hosts noting her claim of "crossing the line" as a comic while failing to apologize directly to the President.

al franken· kathy griffin· first amendment· apology· dimension b

12:36 Dingbat supporting. That would probably be it. There you go! You say, some say woman some say dingbat tomato-tomato Some say they weren't offended by the image I personally have no problem with this kind of gesture she made i think there's a lot of people that are very hurt by this presidency but i also think if you're a private establishment the first amendment does not require you to amplify someone else's speech So thats their prerogative The first amendment does not require you to amplify. Here's the way to ask Adam Park, it is an easy answer but where she from? This one? Yeah California Austin Texas Oh we're back up for a California now in case you guys run out of dingbats we got them here new problem

13:33 The thing that I'm surprised by, well not really. If you consider that we know the universe is split and we have multiple dimensions there is a severity in this dimension B where apparently Griffin and her photographer...and there's a whole crew! There are a whole bunch of people involved in a photo shoot like this And they all thought it was great. I have her apology, i'll play that...I think she was truly truly taken aback that Dimension B would not support this kind of action. Hey everybody! It's me Kathy Griffin. I sincerely apologize. I'm just now seeing the reaction of these images. I'm a comic. I crossed the line. I moved the line then I cross it and went way too far

14:18 The image is too disturbing. I understand how it offends people, it wasn't funny, I get it...I've made a lot of mistakes in my career and will continue. I ask your forgiveness for taking down the image. Gonna ask the photographer to take down the image and I beg for your forgiveness! I went too far- I made a mistake and was wrong." It would have been nice if she apologized to the president that would have been- That would have made it a little- But you know, You can't DO that in Dimension B because he's not the President there. I guess? That's a good point. And also, if you got the Judge Pirro slam of Kathy Griffin's apology... No I don't have that. I hadn't lost it yet. I wasn't THAT interested! I wasn't either so when I lost it didn't go back to get it. Well its almost like this obsession- are we done with Kathy Griffin? Because I am.

15:08 Unless you have something else to say. I can't think of anything else except that, it's a classic. I think the classic moment was what you said when everybody pushes this together and thinks it's good without thinking twice. This is a work of art we've done here! Where? I'm an artist...I'm a comic It's art, I tell ya Now there's a-this That was-I understand why that had to be at least highlighted although not on CNN The head. Yes, CNN But CNN was really obsessing over the Khafifi tweet We all thought it was a typo There's every indication that it was a typo The president played with it as if it were a typo And then Sean Spicer

CHAPTER 05 / 44 Discussion

Covfefe Tweet and Presidential Typo Theories

The viral "covfefe" tweet from Donald Trump is analyzed as a likely typo for the word "coverage." White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer's suggestion that a small group of people knew exactly what the President meant is dismissed as an unnecessary defense of a simple late-night error. The hosts compare the incident to their own frequent typographical mistakes in show notes.

covfefe· donald trump· sean spicer· twitter· typo

15:56 I guess intimates that it wasn't a typo and we hear you kind of call out in your puzzled well what did you make of that? It was crazy. And I hate to use that word, but it really was. And I'm not going to assume as a reporter what the word was. I was assuming that it meant coverage But if he says there's this small group of people who understood what it was So I'm like... What is it? What is confethi? Of course it was. I'm sorry, but she's the only one that noticed what it was called obviously was coverage. Of course it was coverage and Tina immediately said he meant coverage. He probably fell asleep while he was tweeting it! That's what it looks like because you know the F and V they're pretty... It looks like one of my clip titles. I know another guy now who is older than you are but I know another guy in age range and you know the typing

16:56 Stuff is interesting. Just for instance the first clip in your list today alphabetically is comma-oh-comma Sue's Facebook and loses now. Yeah, you know it's like I figure out what that was but I don't think you're crazy I don't mom I don't because the commas next to the M and on a little title thing I don't even bother to look up And I just type whatever I feel and it sometimes you get comma oh comma I know. But that's what happened, so what? Now...I don't know if you're up for it. I don't know if you're up for it but Hillary Clinton who is still kind of ground zero everything that that has been discussed regarding the political side and kinda on a global stage

CHAPTER 06 / 44 Discussion

Hillary Clinton at Code Con Blames James Comey

Hillary Clinton appeared at the Code Conference for an interview with Kara Swisher and Walt Mossberg. Clinton defended her use of a private email server, claiming she broke no rules and was not careless, contradicting previous statements by FBI Director James Comey. She identified the reopening of the FBI investigation in October as the primary reason for her electoral loss.

hillary clinton· code con· james comey· kara swisher· walt mossberg

17:45 You know, the Russian theories. The conspiracies all of it's definitely she's ground zero and she was at the Code Con Oh yes I'm glad you got this because i didn't get it but I know about and I was just like a head slapper oh well I was disappointed when I saw most of the clips that were taken from this It was completely missed all the groovy stuff now that MSNBC... We won't do that. No, no and we sat through this hour and a half and it actually at a certain point was quite tedious but all the meat and potatoes was in the first 45 minutes however because its Kara Schwisher Malt Wasberg Walt Mossberg Malt Wosberg and Hillary Clinton and an audience The only way we can really do this is we have to travel

18:40 Oh, you think it's that bad? It's that bad. All right I can do it Have you had your tea? Uh my tea is secure Okay here we go Where did this old man get his story going? Stand by everybody You can get a little bit dizzy Just look at the ground and it'll all go away Here he goes! Standby Aw shoot Here it is The Machine Are you ready?! Here we go If you stay forward... ...it's going to be only... Traveling from the straddle to dimension B Sparky came Sparky is always concerned when it happens and

19:33 I need a little more time before we do that. All right, now it's clear that Malt and Kara have spoken with Hillary beforehand this is just completely obvious. It's clear that well Kara is friends with Hillary that didn't she did she do a fundraiser for them? I'm sure they're very tight so... I think you used the right word too. Tight yes thank you joke understood So I have a number of clips. There's one longer one, which is really...I mean it's just mind-blowing but we'll start with Just her basically setting up and you know And so you know nothing that she did is the reason she lost Nothing that her team did was the reason they lost She's a genius! It's only the Russians Well if we're trying to get at what you think you misjudged well

20:25 If you went all the way back, doing something that others had done before was no longer acceptable in the new environment in which we found ourselves. Is she referring to her being the originator of the phony baloney story or possibly true story about Barack Obama not being an American? Neither Neither. Against it there was no rule, nothing of that sort so I didn't break any rule nobody said don't do this and i was very responsible and not at all careless So she's talking about her email server And I'd like to just replay that because you stopped in the middle of a moment here

21:05 Here we go. Nothing of that sort, so I didn't break any rule nobody... Let's go back a little more here we go. We know what she's talking about you don't have to do it again. Go back. Oh nothing of that sort, so i didn't break any rule nobody said don't do this and I was very responsible and not at all careless okay So I just want to Reach back to Comey's testimony certainly she should have known not to send classified information I think as I said, that's the definition of negligent. I think she was extremely careless. So then she was negligent Comey said she was extremely careless and here She is saying I was not careless this already was mind-boggling that you would sit there and say that and You know you can't sit yeah, I'm guessing

21:52 I know what you're going to get. That she's deluded, yes. And don't do this and I was very responsible and not at all careless so you end up with a situation that is then exploited and very effectively for adverse political reasons And it was maddening because in the middle of a hard-fought campaign, it's hard to stop and say wait a minute what you think you know about this is not accurate let me tell you. You can still judge me. You can still hold me accountable that's fair game but there was so much else going on at that time and the investigation that they conducted ended in July It was over and I have my

22:36 I have my complaints about former director Comey, but it was done. And then it was reignited and it became the major reason toward the end based on the best analysis that I can find that I lost ground and ended up losing so obviously turn the clock back. Okay? So it sounds like she wants to blame Comey but she will blame something completely different But she got off to a rocky start as she made What is hard for people to really accept, although now after the election there's greater understanding. Is that there are forces in our country put the Russians to one side who have been fighting rearguard actions for as long as I've been alive because my life coincided with the civil rights movement with the women's rights movement with anti-war protesting with the impeachment or

23:44 You know, the driving out of office because he was about to be impeached president. Let's be specific Yeah let's be very specific as if people didn't understand what I was saying yeah Because your husband actually was impeached So she tries to turn back As we know that she makes this mistake continuously Saying that Nixon was impeached And now it's like, oh yeah the impeachment and I think you could read that as Bill Clinton's impeachment. And Kara Swisher jumps in to save her! Jumps in to save her! Oh nice work Kara! Now all we're missing here is that old clip when she goes on and on about the vast right wing conspiracy. I don't think I have that anymore...I don't think we have it

CHAPTER 07 / 44 Discussion

Weaponized Tech and Russian Bot Allegations

Hillary Clinton introduced the term "weaponized tech" to describe the 2016 election environment, alleging that the opposition used content farms and fake news. Clinton claimed that 1,000 Russian agents coordinated with bots to influence Facebook users. The hosts criticize the lack of specific examples provided during the interview and the lack of pushback from the moderators.

weaponized tech· facebook· russian agents· bots· content farms

24:32 No, I don't. But we remember it was... what was it? Oh just that's what it was vast right-wing conspiracy so it's still a vast conspiracy not you know the driving out of office because he was about to be impeached president let's be specific yeah let's be very specific as if people didn't understand what I was saying as if people who'd understand what I was saying Wow microaggression and let's talk about You know, Watergate and all the stuff that we lived through. Yeah like you got fired from the law firm of...you were taken off the committee to Impeach Nixon. All things Swisher or Malt could have brought up, but no and I apologize to some crackling in some of these clips That's the original audio now a new term Now we're gonna get into the meat and potatoes of it all why? Why why why what went wrong ready for the term What we saw was in this election particularly And I appreciate what Walt said

25:34 The first time that you had the tech revolution really weaponized... Oh yeah, this is a big one John. This is the new talking point. Weaponizing Tech. Weaponizing. They like to use the word weaponize. I think it was kind of heard them beating around the bush about this? Yeah but did say they don't come back several times here. Politically before it was a way to reach voters You know, collect fundraising. Do things that would help the candidate who was behind the messaging That changed this time and it changed for a number of reasons we should talk about So talk about the weaponizing of it because one of the things thats interesting now you've recently and we talked about The uses of Facebook How do you look at Hold on second

26:26 How do you see how it was weaponized? And let me, it begs the question why weren't you weaponizing it like why is that... Hey hey! Why weren't you weaponizing your tech lady?! Right being so good at it. Not just you but and not just saying we Democrats yeah well Look, here's how I see it. And you know, I hope others will jump into this debate in the months ahead because there is a lot that we have to understand if we're going to avoid this continuing assault on our sources of information. I thought that was a little interesting tidbit, the sources of information. Weaponizing tech on the sources of information which... No what she is talking about is continuing assault. Oh assault? I guess using by the way weaponized tech

27:08 Yeah, yeah use weaponized tech to assault the source of information. Okay now we get into what weaponizing means you know I was very proud of my Data and analytics team they and this was surprising when this started I was like whoa To her oh just a spoiler This is all about the weaponized tech. It's all about the data and she got screwed. We're largely veterans of the Obama campaigns, 08-12 and then we brought in new people and brought in a lot of you know new expertise to build uh the sort of next generation and we had a lot of help from some people

27:49 Silicon Valley as well. And what we thought we were doing, here's the arena we were playing in was going to like Obama 3.0 you know better targeting better messaging and the ability that both turn out our voters as we identified them and to communicate more broadly with voters here's what the other side was doing and they were in a different arena through content farms through an enormous investment in falsehoods, fake news call it what you will about lies. Lies! The other side was using content

28:36 I want to mention that apparently just until this election, lies were never used in campaign. Never happened! Never happens no if this is a new breakthrough it's un-American yeah i like Obama 3.0 though that's kind of cool what you're going to do blackface? Lies are really...that's a good word too um the uh the other side was using content that was just flat out false and delivering it in a very personalized way. See, these guys were so good John that they are able to do what Amazon and Google cannot...Amazon in particular cannot do They were going to target and give me the right message at the right time which it arrived and always said chip-in

29:29 I didn't see any, any massive smarts. And apparently help from Silicon Valley the same people who bring you the ads of the product you just bought! Please you know both sort of above the radar screen and below. I'm not a text expert by any stretch of the imagination that really influenced the information that people were relying on. And there have been some studies done since the election

30:12 that if you look, let's pick Facebook. If you look at Facebook the vast majority of the news items posted were fake they were connected to as we now know the 1,000 Russian agents who... Whoa whoa whoa what 1000 Russian agents? Where did this come from I don't know! We now know there was 1000 Russian agents I can just see all these guys in black suits, black ties. Boris have you put the targeted message out yet? Yes i'm very good Yuri, I am doing it. Whose news items posted were fake they were connected to... Hold on does she show one example? No

30:58 This news, fake news all over the place and somehow it cost her the election. No but it was all linked to fake news as we now know the 1 000 Russian agents who were involved in delivering those messages yes you know Yes that's some NLP for you right there yeah so she does stuff like that so matter-of-factly And these two bozos are sitting there with, neither one of them had the balls to say what 1,000 Russian agents? What are you talking about? I should have clipped it but later in the interview Mossberg who is retiring is actually shilling for a job with her.

31:40 It was pretty lame. But yeah, exactly no examples. Connected to as we now know the 1000 Russian agents who were involved in delivering those messages. Oh stop! We're never going to get through the next clip. Sorry I can't get past this. No it's a dimension thing i get it She uses...this is a propagandistic technique as we now know. Yes, as we now know yes We don't know this but by saying it, by saying as we now know it makes it sound as if a process had occurred Well its better than that Why would any journalist question it? Because if you say as we now know well hold on I dont'know well your poorly informed You can win with that statement or journalists cannot win

32:30 As we now know, if you well I don't know that on stage mind you in the red chairs. No she's not going to do that The 1000 Russian agents who were involved in delivering those messages they were connected to the bots and that are just out of control We see now this new information about Trumps Twitter account being populated by millions of bots I miss this story too! This story did appear Tell me the story The story is that Twitter's filled with phony accounts. They're not necessarily bots. No, no she says a million bots populated Trump's Twitter what the fuck does that mean? Yeah yeah sketchy It was it was such a new experience I understand why people on their Facebook pages would think

33:21 Hillary Clinton did that. I did not know that." Well, that's going to affect my opinion about her and we were...we did not engage in false content. We may have tried to put every piece of information in the best possible light and explanations but we weren't in uh..the same category as the other side. Okay, you weren't in the same category? Now, what you're about to hear the story within the story within her explanation of how weaponized tech beat her at the polls which is what she's going to say. It is such a tremendously large story in my mind I mean I haven't monitored everything but I can't believe that this is not headline news everywhere if Hillary Clinton...I'll just give you a little tip just a tip If Hillary Clinton said publicly

CHAPTER 08 / 44 Discussion

DNC Insolvency and RNC Data Foundation

Hillary Clinton claimed she inherited a bankrupt and insolvent Democratic National Committee (DNC) with mediocre data. She contrasted this with the Republican National Committee (RNC), which she claimed benefited from a $100 million investment in data infrastructure following the 2012 election. The hosts discuss the "Orca" system used by the Mitt Romney campaign as a precursor to these tools.

dnc· rnc· orca· mitt romney· data operation

34:14 It's mainly because of the Democratic Party, the DNC that I lost. Wouldn't that be a story? It did show up and how did it show up? It showed up in right-wing media. I'm talking about... Okay i'll just play it and again this has some cracklies in the beginning I can't help that but I think it will blow your mind There is way to weaponize tech that doesn't involve lying or having Russians help you It is a political weapon. It's a fact of life How do you do that? Do you do it how do we do it let me let me just do a comparison for you so You know I set up my campaign and We have our own Data operation, I get the nomination So I'm now the nominee of the Democratic Party I inherit nothing from the Democratic Party

35:11 What do you mean nothing? I mean it was bankrupt. It was on the verge of insolvency its data was mediocre to poor, non-existent wrong Let's just stop there did you know the DNC was bankrupt and insolvent when she was nominated I have to admit, I don't. Of course not! I didn't know this... This-I think this is big news. Well there was Donna Brazil and everyone like everything's good we're all great here. There was Debbie Washman Schultz. Everyone everything's good it was all great here. What what? They were bankrupt?! They were almost insolvent their data wasn't tatters

35:56 Did you see the setup that they had at the big, uh... The name of that big hall in New York City where they're gonna have the fireworks display inside? Yes. Yeah yeah and then the glass ceiling. Someone had money but hey let's continue because this is all about the data This is good You're doing good here Mediocre to poor Non-existent Wrong I had to inject money into it? This is the DNC. The DNC, to keep it going. Okay. Donald Trump who did nothing about really setting up any kind of data operation inherits an RNC data foundation that after the Republicans lost in 2012

36:42 And they thought they had a very good operation with the setup that Romney did, called Orca. They thought that was really state of the art." Now this is interesting because now she's getting into platforms and systems and I did... Do you know about the Orca system? The Orca computer system? No but i could imagine that Romney coming right from a tech kind of private equity operation that is involved in this sort of thing would put together something that would be dynamite. Well, ORCA was a mobile optimized web app that was used as a component of get out the vote it was intended to enable volunteers and polling stations around the country to report which voters had turned out so that quote missing Republican voters an underperforming precincts could be targeted for last-minute efforts to get voters to the polls

37:31 So that was really an operational tool on the day of. It had nothing to do with the data about the constituents or the base, you know registered Republicans. So Hillary is not factually correct on this one but we get into an interesting topic here So they raised, best estimates are close to $100 million. They brought in their main vendors. They basically said we will never be behind the Democrats again and they invested between 2012 and 2016 this hundred million dollars to build this data foundation. They beta tested it

38:10 They ran it. Somebody was able to determine about 227,000 surveys to double check triple check quadruple check the information So Trump becomes the nominee and he is basically handed this tried-and-true effective foundation now so she is now You see where she's going like but there are culprits behind this data foundation This is where it gets really juicy And there's a couple of little side things that are kind of, I'm just going to throw them in so people don't truly overlook them. One is that part of this Russian thing is that besides hacking the DNC uh...to expose the email they also supposedly hacked all the state databases to try and look at who was there if this stuff was all useless crap what difference does it make what the Russians did? No she's saying

CHAPTER 09 / 44 Discussion

Cambridge Analytica and the Mercer Family Theory

A theory presented by Hillary Clinton suggests that Robert Mercer and Cambridge Analytica forced the Trump campaign to hire Steve Bannon and Kellyanne Conway in exchange for data services. Clinton alleged a marriage between psychographic data and Russian information warfare. The hosts characterize these claims as an elaborate conspiracy theory involving machine learning and paid advertising.

cambridge analytica· robert mercer· steve bannon· kellyanne conway· jared kushner

39:05 that the DNC data was crap, but the Republicans had weaponized with a hundred million dollars. Yeah no I know what you're saying i'm just going back to the... But she has a different take on the Russians involvement this is why it's important we go through the whole thing. Infective foundation then you've got Cambridge Analytica and- This is where I went whoa! What did you just say? Cambridge Analyitca Yeah, we've talked about them before. Yes this is a group that started in the UK and I believe that their database yeah in fact I know that their database was used for the Brexit vote but she brings this up and I'm like whoa! And she has a theory behind this that is just too precious to believe Foundation then you've got Cambridge Analytica and you know you can believe

40:00 the hype on how great they were or the hype on how they weren't, but the fact is they added something. Ooh! They added something. Ooh... They added something. What did they add? Well wait until you hear it! Something and I think again we better understand that The Mercer's did not invest all that money just for their own amusement So now she's talking about The Mercer's That would be the investment that Robert Mercer, who is a billionaire Donald Trump supporter. He bought a piece of Cambridge Analytica now he bought that in 2014

40:37 So I guess they were thinking way ahead of the game, Hillary. Yeah, saw Trump coming somehow. We know they played in Brexit and we know... Oh! A little implication they played in Brexit. And we know how that turned out so you know... Invest all that money just for their own amusement? No no for their own amusement How about because it's a good company and its gonna make money and now it was to influence elections. I understand thank you Hillary. We know they played in Brexit They came to Jared Kushner and basically— You've got to listen to this. I mean, just listen to this theory

41:14 Jared Kushner and basically said we will marry our operation which was more as it's been described psychographic sentiment a lot of you know, a lot of harvesting of Facebook information. We will marry that with the RNC on two conditions You pick Steve Bannon and you pick Kellyanne Conway I fell off the couch. Is she just making this stuff up? She is insane! The deal was, we're gonna hook you up but in exchange for us hooking you up You have to take Bannon and Kellyanne Conway because they need a job. What else?! Oh my god... We will marry that with

42:06 The the RNC on two conditions you pick Steve Bannon and you pick Kellyanne Conway And then we're in Trump says fine who cares right yeah, right? I mean give us a crab your banning banyan Kellyanne Conway money shot who gives a crap. Okay sounds good to me Give me the data Oh Bannon who'd been running the Breitbart operation supplying a lot of the uh, the untrue false stories. That's our sand lies. Yeah. Uh, we know, uh, so we know there it is again. We know if lies, we know as we know it is now known. We know the untrue false story. That's our sand lines. Yeah. Um, we, we know they married content with

42:53 I don't think that's legal in all 50 states. You can't have same-date marriages, and that's not possible. All in agreement, which I know from my experience as a senator and secretary of state is hard to get. They concluded with high confidence that the Russians ran an extensive information war campaign against my

43:29 campaign to influence voters in the election. Now, okay, hold on a second wait she jumped to the Russians out of this out of the blue she's gonna pull it together right now while you're ready remember that so remember that they added something little throwaway comment? They did it through paid advertising we think they did it oh the Russians did it through paid advertising I think AdWords I think that Adwords they bought AdWords Hello, hello Google's hellos vlogging Vladimir Yes, I want to buy some keywords. I was thinking Hillary Clinton and I was also thinking a locker up can we get these maybe can we get these from you thank You Google's in the election they did it through paid advertising. We think they did it through False news sites, they did it to these thousand agents They did it through machine learning which you know machine learning of my god machine learning Let me learn something about you what product Did you just buy?

44:30 Let me give you some ads for that product. Yeah, there's your machine learning. They did it through these thousand agents they did it through machine learning which kept spewing out this stuff over and over again the algorithms they developed now so that was the conclusion and I think its fair to ask how did that actually influence the campaign? And how do they know what messages to deliver Now we get down to the meat who told them yeah, who were they coordinating with or colluding with? Because the Russians historically in the last What she's saying and she clarifies a little bit is that Bannon Kellyanne Conway Cambridge Analytics Trump Mercer cabal

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Russian Collusion and Macedonian Fake News Sites

The narrative of Russian collusion is expanded to include teenagers in Macedonia running fake news sites like the "Denver Guardian." Hillary Clinton argued that foreign entities could not have targeted American voters effectively without guidance from Americans with polling data. The hosts discuss the shift in political culture where conspiracy theories have become mainstream in liberal discourse.

macedonia· fake news· collusion· conspiracy· propaganda

45:21 that they signaled the Russians when... That's right wing conspiracy with the Russians. Yes, when to send the messages who to send them too and where to send them because as we know They have complete control over Facebook They control all the algorithms of Facebook And so that yes This is a I've been noticing this trend in some sides of the media Where they are noticing that the left-wingers in general, on the political spectrum are getting more and more and more into weird conspiracy stuff. Completely! It's all of this whole Russian thing is the definition of a conspiracy they conspired together they breathe together that is the definition of conspiracy And it's gone too... I'll just reflect on this for a second because I've noticed over the years been around for awhile that when I was a kid

46:17 The bumper stickers that were plastered all over cars were right-wing bumper stickers. Goldwater, get the US out of the UN, love it or leave it... All these right wing stickers and there would be left wingers who have one sticker if any stickers I would be like just Kennedy is playing Kennedy and that was all it was Over time the right-wingers have pretty much stopped putting bumper stickers on their cars and the left wingers now are loading up Their cars. Yeah with the whole back of a Subaru will be covered I'm sorry you mean a Prius you mean?

46:54 I mean a Subaru, that's got more room. The Prius doesn't have as much acreage for bumper stickers because there is the little glass clear thing but one of those station wagon Subarus are the ones in green they're always green colored and driven by lesbians That car is covered with these bumpers Yes, Priuses do have a lot But it just everything is swapped! Yes! Thank you Exactly Everything is swapped, only there's a lot more leniency for this dimension. For what they do and what is accepted up to the point of Kathy Griffin that is where the line is you can't cut off the president said there's a lot of acreage as you say

47:39 Up to that point. In the last couple of decades and then increasingly, you know are launching cyber attacks and they are stealing vast amounts of information and a lot of the information they've stolen They've used for internal purposes To affect markets...to affect... They affect markets? That's a pretty severe accusation We're gonna have to go to the plunge protection team clips later in the show Ah! The presidential plunge protection team Yes, yeah. The only country I know of that manipulates markets is China and they have rooms just like ClickFarms they have rooms full of people who act as a manual algorithm

48:25 for these Chinese stocks that you can trade on the OTC. And we don't do that, of course never there's no chance that we do anything similar to that No not unless you read Yahoo message boards They've stolen they've used for internal purposes to affect markets the intelligence services, etc. So this was different because they went public and they were conveying this weaponized information and the content of it and they were running you know there's all these stories about guys over in Macedonia who are running these fake news sites. Did we see one guy in Macedonia? No! There was a bunch of them when we discussed on this show we had clips yeah but

49:09 I mean, so now she lost because of Macedonia? We had clips and it was revealed that a bunch of young guys. Yeah yeah i remember they were drinking because they had all this money... You're right! They were making a lot of money running a bunch of phony sites and they hated Clinton So here's how it works Ben and Kellyanne Conway, Mercer Cambridge Analytics Trump team said okay you need to they told the Russians you need to send this message now to this group of people at this time and they then called Macedonia and said hey Macedonia. And then they made the Macedonian's do it. Brewskis for everyone!

49:51 And I've seen them now, and you sit there and it looks like a sort of low-level CNN operation. Or fake newspaper like the Denver Guardian. Like a fake newspaper. And the Russians in my opinion – based on the intel and counterintel people that I've talked to could not have known how best to weaponize that information unless they had been guided. And here's a... Guided by Americans. Guided by Americans and guided by people who add, you know polling and data information. Who is that? Now let me just finish. And Kara Swisher says well who is that she just told you moron! Who is the? That's, Kara Swisher is looking at Hillary's crotch. I don't know she is not listening unless they had been guided and here's a here's one by Americans guided by Americans and guided by people who add you know polling and data information now let me just finish because this is the second and third step oh here comes to kicker so within one hour

CHAPTER 11 / 44 Discussion

WikiLeaks and the Access Hollywood Tape Timing

Hillary Clinton alleged that WikiLeaks acted as an arm of Russian intelligence by dumping John Podesta's emails within one hour of the Access Hollywood tape leak. She described the emails as "anodyne" and claimed they were weaponized by allies in the "internet world," specifically mentioning Alex Jones and InfoWars. The hosts debate the definition of "anodyne" in the context of political scandals.

wikileaks· john podesta· access hollywood· vladimir putin· info wars

50:48 the excess Hollywood tapes being leaked. You've heard this meme? Within one hour, the Russians say WikiLeaks same thing dumped the... Look at that! Wikileaks Russia same thing so wait a minute So it was the data analytics that the Russians then told the Macedonians to make the fake news and then, the Russians hacked into... because of course, the best way to get at Hillary is to hack into John Podesta's emails with a DNC. The guy who uses the word password for a password? Yeah that guy! Please ignore the phishing email we've seen Ignore all that. Ignore the emails that said you got compromised. They hacked in and

51:37 They gave that to WikiLeaks, which is the same as Russia. And WikiLeaks published... Yeah that's Russia. Or the Russians say WikiLeaks same thing dumped the John F. Kennedy... Hey Mossberg! Same thing. Dumped the John Podesta emails Now, if you've ever read the John Podesta emails they are anodyne to boredom Oh yeah! Especially the one about Donna Brazile That was anodyne Is that another word for boring? No. What is anodyne? Anodyne, the boredom... I mean it's like a no that she's using she's using a construction to emphasize the boring part but anodyne doesn't mean boring what does it mean? I don't know let's look at the book of knowledge It's like a lightning rod kind of definition The book of knowledge doesn't work here in this dimension Oh no! The Book of Un-Knowledge is what comes up on my screen

52:39 Anodyne. The book of ludicrous ideas! Here we go, anodyne not likely to provoke dissent or offense inoffensive often deliberately so okay so that's anodyne okay that's a big so it's inoffensive and boring combined yes Except it was offensive because, you know they were screwing Bernie. It was very offensive. No that was the DNC email she's talking about the Podesta email specifically Oh well that's where we got the Donna Brazile email from Yeah I think so So that wasn't...you know That was not unlikely to provoke dissent or offense it was very offensive She says this because she doesn't want people going back and digging around some more

53:24 let's say WikiLeaks, same thing. Dumped the John Podesta emails now if you've ever read the John Podesta emails they are anodyne to boredom but so they were run-of-the-mill emails especially run of the mill for a campaign should we do this what should she say I don't know you know hey do we have questions did it give them two people are you cheating? The stuff that is so Common, basic. Within one hour... For your world maybe? Your universe it may be basic and common to get questions passed on? The stuff that is so common, basic within one hour they dumped them and then they began to weaponize them And they began to have some of their allies within the internet world Ooh! Allies within the internet world Who would that be? Guccifer maybe? Is that who she's referring too? Probably

54:21 Yeah, exactly. Internet world like InfoWars take out pieces and... Oh InfoWars! They're friends at InfoWars oh I'm sorry. It gets more free publicity. I know when we get... Again just say the most outrageous outlandish absurd lies you can imagine and so they had to be ready for that and they had to have a plan for that and they had to be given the go-ahead okay this could be the end of the Trump campaign dump it now And then let's do everything we can to weaponize it and we know it hurt us. Okay, I said a little out of order So they already had the emails Access Hollywood tape comes out very damaging Dump! Dump! Dump! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hello? Julian? Julian? Where is Julian? This is Vladimir. Dump it! Dump it now man! I got to dump it! So he dumps it and then that information is weaponized by the Russians

CHAPTER 12 / 44 Discussion

Onward Together and the Lizard Person Question

Hillary Clinton's new political initiative and her fundraising through ActBlue are discussed. During the Code Con interview, Kara Swisher jokingly defended Clinton against internet rumors claiming she is a "lizard person." The hosts note the irony of the moderator having to clarify that the former Secretary of State is human.

onward together· actblue· lizard people· kara swisher· netflix

55:18 given to the Macedonians and others, friends on the internet Alex Jones. And they targeted... Alex Jones has a very sophisticated targeting system it works like this I think he basically targets every... oh man that even hurt my voice you have to be careful And then that is how she lost. Thank you Cambridge Analytics and Bannon and Kellyanne Conway for being chips in the exchange, very very good! Now two quickies to end this up... Hillary didn't come- Hey did I? But by the way earlier I don't remember if i said this did I use the word deluded yes you did yeah okay i just want to make sure that everyone knew that i used the word deluded i don't think that word has any meaning in this universe in this dimension

56:13 Probably doesn't but I think people are still hearing us in the other dimensions. We can go we I can get you still say Okay, go on so Hillary has a pitch She's not coming there just to speak to Kara she's got a pitch she's got a pitch if the Republicans continue to make progress as they are and going into the next generation of personalization, message delivery, phone. Again, we're all screwed! The algos man their algos are beating our algos. These stories go to Netflix and say you want to see a political documentary eight of the top ten last time I checked few weeks ago were screeds against President Obama or me or both of us now i love netflix

56:58 We're not making the documentaries that we're going to get onto Netflix. Is this because Hollywood isn't liberal enough? No, it's because Democrats are not putting their money... Yeah that was the only good line but the answer is where she's at It was more a setup. ...documentaries that were gonna get on to Netflix This is because Hollywood isn't liberal enough? No! It's because Democrats are not putting their money there you know There's a classic line. Democrats give money to candidates, they want a personal connection. So the classic line is Democrats like to fall in love, Republicans just fall in line. Republicans build institutions, Republicans invest in those institutions, Republicans are much more willing to push and cross the line and Democrats... I've talked to dozens of donors since my election experience and I said look

57:54 I'm all for you trying to figure out who you're going to support in 2020, but what about 2017 and what about 2018? And what about helping the DNC try to leapfrog over its horrible data deficit. How about supporting some of these new groups and see what they can do to generate some activity?" We are not good historically at building institutions, we've got to get better – that includes content. So, she's pitching for money and she's pitching from... I'm not going to play any more clips about the pitch but she is pitching for all these different little campaigns. And I went and looked at every single one of them and all of them are a part of ActBlue. They have the same kind of website. Are you competing with that Operations For America or whatever it is? The Obama thing?

58:45 I'm not sure. ActBlue, we've seen ActBlue before they are the ones doing all the work They're the ones that do the chip in emails Those horrible emails are all the same Yes but they are not just a facility They are a political action committee So Clinton talks about all these different Oh this woman she has this you know She doesn't really say foundation because none of them are non-profits They're all money raising for ActBlue which is her ActBlue is her. Yeah, and if you look at I think OpenSecrets they have received if you look at how much money 284 million dollars How much money does this woman need to get a hairdo every once in awhile? And what they do is they give this money To candidates who were running and so she is in charge of this operation She is in charge of it

59:42 There was one little funny bit, which and only in this dimension B will you... can we as dimension well straddlers but I would say we're more in a healthier dimension. Can we see the irony of this question, answer and follow up? Do you blame... And I'm going to just use Facebook because that's where a lot of this was done. Especially around the fake news which was either the Pope was voting for Trump or there was one particular when I got in an argument with Facebook people about you being a lizard that was going around. They kept arguing about the gray area in this and that and I remember being on call saying she is not a lizard! Thank You Cara thank you

1:00:23 That's actually a kind thing from Karen. I'm very touched! But do you blame... Can i have that on film? I'll be honest, I don't know if you're a lizard or not but the fact of the matter is I guess you are not a lizard She's a lizard she just said it and I actually don't really know if you're a lizard or not That was a faux pas You should be dead You talked- you said the L word Well, in counter to all this since we're still in this dimension. I do want to play a little update of the whole scene because these things are cropping up left and right and you got the Hillary think blue or whatever the hell it is. And you've got Obama OFA or AFO or whatever. Here's a new one! This is the woohoo clip

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Joe Biden Launches American Possibilities PAC

Former Vice President Joe Biden has launched a new Political Action Committee called American Possibilities. While Biden has not officially declared a 2020 presidential run, the PAC is viewed as a vehicle for maintaining political influence and supporting candidates who "dream big."

joe biden· american possibilities· pac· 2020 election

1:01:17 Woohoo! Joe Biden has said he does not plan to run for president, but there are indications he may be rethinking that. The former vice president is starting a political action committee called American Possibilities. The PAC says it's dedicated to electing people who believe the country is about dreaming big There we go. Just keep the old boat going. Yeah, absolutely just keep it you know we should start one of those I was gonna beat me to it yeah they were crazy not too just a matter of the management part uh I was thinking maybe there's one other thing I could fit in here while we're filing paperwork while we're still in this dimension oh yes

CHAPTER 14 / 44 Discussion

Seth Rich Murder and Primary Polling Place Theory

A theory from the "Still" podcast involving a letter from a woman named Claudia Cash suggests Seth Rich was murdered because he discovered a DNC scam involving duplicate polling places. The theory alleges that Hillary Clinton supporters were directed to separate locations to facilitate the swapping of Bernie Sanders ballots. The hosts find the explanation of voter turnout anomalies plausible but unverified.

seth rich· claudia cash· bernie sanders· dnc· primary election

1:02:07 All of this, now remember... Hillary's all about the data. The DNC data was shit Trump and Pepe the Frog, the alt-right, the Mercers everybody was colluding in a grand vast right wing conspiracy getting it already with the Russians and Macedonia And WikiLeaks which is Russia all of this stuff and this ties in very naturally to the Seth Rich murder And, lo and behold by coincidence I pick up the Still podcast. The one that you...the very one that you got the hospital letter from." Right. "...and we verified that. We verified certainly that the language that was used in this memo about what happened to Seth Rich in the hospital was correct according to a 23-year veteran? One of our producers not veteran services but 22..." In business. He's in the business he's in the business

1:03:06 So this dude from the still podcast and I could have read it myself But I think the way he reads it is just a little bit better, and it's also his story. He has a posting memo note from Not the girlfriend that we all think is Seth Riches girlfriend but the other girlfriend And her name is I think it's Claudia, Claudia Cash. Cash with a K which is already sounds sketchy but listen to the theory that is laid out in this. So let's see what Claudia Cash had to say

1:03:42 This letter is dated July 21st, about two weeks after his death at 4 or 3 p.m.. I know why Seth Rich had to die there were two sets of polling places this primary season now just so you understand because it took me listening to this twice...this is about the primary the primary election and screwing Bernie out of ever having a chance to become the candidate. Yeah, this is great clip and by the way I think you like playing this guy's reading same reason I do he sounds like one of those numbers stations He sounds exactly like one...I have to say the... I can't help it but i take out a lot of the pauses in these clips

1:04:34 Yeah, I tend to do that. Yeah but a lot and... Okay let it rip while I go answer the phone. There were two sets of polling places this primary season one set for most of the voters who went on state websites to find their polling locations A second set for Hillary Clinton supporters who looked on Hillary Clinton's website to find their polling location The Secretary of State for each state had one set of locations on the record and the other set of locations, the ones listed on Hillary's website were not on the state record. I know this because i looked on her website to find where a French should vote then double-checked the state website which shows a different address. I thought there must be a mistake

1:05:23 I kept checking right up to election day. But until they killed Seth Rich, I couldn't figure out why there were two different polling places This is how i think the scam worked While most voters looked up their location on their state website Voters who were signed-up as Hillary Clinton supporters would be directed to her site To find their polling place It was set up the same way any other DNC polling place with DNC volunteers, regular voting machines etc. and a duplicate voter roster at the other polling place voters would be checked off on the roster same as at the other polling place period

1:06:05 and after the polls close, the DNC supervisor would pick up the roster and ballots. The supervisor would then pick up the roster at the legitimate polling place and the ballots there he or she would then replace a number of Bernie Sanders' ballots with equal numbers from the Hillary Clinton voting location. Then the duplicate roster from HRC location would be shredded and thrown away along with all the Bernie Sanders ballots that had been replaced. That way, the number of people who voted on the remaining roster still matches the number of ballots."

1:06:44 This is why so many states reported a lower than expected voter turnout. Seth Rich, who was responsible for the app that helped voters find their polling places did not realize that there were two sets of polling places until he himself went to vote He lived in Washington, D.C., which voted at the end of the primary season a week after Clinton had already been declared the winner I believe he discovered it then and had started asking questions about why the polling places on Hillary's website didn't match the ones in the DC website Even if you didn't say a word to anybody It would have been dangerous to let him live

1:07:25 he would have figured it out sooner or later and he would have reported it when he did. India, Tango, Mike... Standby 33-33-33 There you go I think that's very plausible! I don't know if this is really from his ex girlfriend or any of that but I think it's very plausible that's what went down It's a good one. And it does explain a couple of the very weird anomalies, especially in New York where there was low turnout and some places that didn't turn out well because they couldn't pull the stunt off so they got no votes. It was a mess!

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Fake News Remix and No Agenda Stream

The hosts play a "Fake News" audio montage and clarify the difference between the live No Agenda Stream and the official archive site. They mention other programs on the stream, including "Nick the Rat" and "Dvorak Horowitz Unplugged."

fake news· no agenda stream· nick the rat· dvorak horowitz unplugged

1:08:09 Yeah, the whole thing was designed to rig it. I mean they couldn't rig the national presidential election No that's a lot harder because that's not gonna happen but they could do these little sure primaries no not hard Can we should we get out of here? Because it's very tiring Well, I do have one short clip that I want you to consider as an evergreen which is fits into this side And I think it'll play on both sides of this okay of the thing I want to make sure plays on this side all right fake news Okay, so let's see if it goes fake news John you've done some production work. Yeah, I love it fake news Fake news

1:09:09 Fake news. We choose not you! Fake news. Wooo! Oh man, what a trip That was a good series of clips Thank you Highly entertaining She is completely off the rails But I really love... This is the theorem that has to be proven And that's... good luck with that. Yeah, good luck! It's a conspiracy theory it's a classic you can never get anywhere close to proving it No In fact they're even going after it seriously as ludicrous but okay But then the thing they got me in that was the Bannon and uh... And Kellyanne Conway And Kellyanne Conway Really? Isn't that fantastic? Geez Nah I thought that was one of the better ones That's a Shona money shot

1:10:07 Oh Jesus! Wooo Lord, look at that. That's a money shot! Kenan Conway in the money shot! And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John Sui And the word is C stands for Conway Money Shot! Dvorak. In the morning to you, Mr Adam Curry in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feeding the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning everybody in The War Room noagendastream.com for the newcomers this is not where you pick up the most recent show it's where you can listen live and we have other programs on the stream Wednesday nights we have Nick The Rat that was worth checking into with a sewer chat We have Dvorak Horowitz Unplugged...we got all kinds of great shows

1:10:47 So, you know when you tweet me and say hey I'm at noagendastream.com I'm hearing a repeat okay You need to go to No agendashow.com that would be an appropriate place to start And I also want to say in the morning to comic strip blogger he brought us the artwork for episode 9 or 3-3 it was titled learn Russian and Because in that show we talked about Android Phones being very insecure and listening in and you can't have that hanging around the Oval Office He did a nice nice piece simple, but very and that usually works of the Android little Android Mascot with really big ears. Yeah That's the kind of good art yeah You know he calls that stuff it seems to me. He doesn't like

CHAPTER 16 / 44 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations and Sir Patrick of the Pug

Sir Patrick of the Pug is recognized for an $800 donation. His note includes 1950s-era slang and the definition of "Potomac Fever," describing the obsession with status in Washington D.C. The hosts discuss the "cow peeing on a flat rock" idiom for heavy rain.

executive producer· sir patrick· potomac fever· donations

1:11:43 He wins his weekly competition or twice a week competition, a lot because of what he calls artsy-fartsy art. I don't think he likes doing this. He's good, outstanding at it but i think he just prefers little cartoons Well he is comic strip blogger yeah. Whatever he's doing now just keep going We like it. Thank you very much conceptual is the kind of stuff that you know these good pieces have a little concept going on yeah, all right So we do have a few people to thank and just make sure that where we're doing this correctly with the top guy again This I do have an old note from that's old But this is he doesn't ever want to be referred to anything other than sir Patrick of the pug in their order

1:12:30 Oh? We only have three executive producers, two executive producers and one associate today so I can ramble a little bit. So he didn't have uh... He didn't send a note in. So this is the third week in a row now I got the previous notes from the other two guys Yeah So I'm going to read those at this segment so we can get them out of the way. These are the top, the guys at the top of the list and Sir Patrick came in with $800 but he did send a note on March 21st is the last note i have from him And he says, and I'll just read it because it's kind of interesting. It's a words thing. He says here is a funny phrase used to describe a sudden rush of water like a busted pipe or the surge of melted ice caps. It's quote like a cow peeing on flat rock. You ever heard that? Yes, I have. Ron Bloom used to say that!

1:13:21 Here's a phrase to describe flatulence that was popular in the 1950s, jet propelled. Funny! I like it. When somebody brags about something you say do you want a small parade? As far as they know these are 50-era expressions. The last one Potomac fever. I don't remember that one, but I don't know what it's about. He says people in the DC and once you got into DC, I guess he started doing name dropping sexually fever. Yeah. It was like Hollywood fever then? Yeah, I guess anyway, but that's all they've got here from Patrick. Uh, and now let's get to the other ones we had Charles couch came in as the lead donor $525 25 cents for his 31st birthday last show, I think or so nine 23 yeah, that was a last show 33

CHAPTER 17 / 44 Discussion

The Vinegar Book and Blockchain Technology

In response to a $525.25 donation from Charles Couch, John Dvorak provides an update on "The Vinegar Book," focusing on avoiding toxic cellulose-producing bacteria. Adam Curry shares his skepticism regarding cyber-currencies as actual money. Technical details regarding Curry's voice-changing equipment, including the Eventide Harmonizer and a Toysmith megaphone, are disclosed.

vinegar book· ethereum· blockchain· universal audio· toysmith

1:14:15 933? This show is 934. Okay, well he meant 930s yeah he says I'm donating 525 25 for my 31st birthday I've been listening since episode 896 and i really love the media breakdown of two gathering information across nearly all news platforms and then broken down to find out motives behind a mind-rotting television I wish I found your podcast sooner To all the douchebags listening who don't donate, get off your ass and get on PayPal. It takes less than 60 seconds! As I'm an entirely new listener, I hear a lot of topics mentioned but don't know the whole story here's some quick questions for the two of you. Oh good good this is needed yeah... I've heard you mention vinegar in The Vinegar Book Yeah what is the story behind The Vinegar Book John?

1:15:07 I got it wrong. Okay, he says my uncle drinks it twice a day and has been skeptical of any health benefits in it blah blah blah. The vinegar book here's the vinegar book which is almost done! It just needs to be pieced together um...it's about how to make homemade vinegar without making xylenium that's a certain kind of rubber It won't kill you, but it gives you stomach issues and is not really meant to make vinegar. You want wine vinegar bacteria. You don't want cellulose producing bacteria making vinegar and I wanna discuss this in some detail so people... Because they're all using this horrible crap! Okay that's the Vinegar Book coming. What are your thoughts on Ethereum and blockchain technology? FAD or the future? Adam

1:16:00 Where'd you go? You weren't supposed to stop talking. I had to grab something, and I turned on the speakers and couldn't get back in time. Sorry. No it's okay! What are your thoughts on Ethereum and blockchain technology? What are my thoughts? Yeah! Because I have no thoughts on the matter... I think that for settlement purposes blockchain technology is very useful But anyone who tells me that a cyber currency is actual money, is incorrect. At the time... at the current time That's just rude man! You asked me and I give you the answer! Well I know! And I gave you a succinct- I'm sorry, I'm sorry, really, I'm seriously sorry. I'm sorry I didn't know that this- Go stand over there with Kathy Griffin! I don't know if the chopped off head was that offensive and poor little kid Adam what is the name of your voice changing device? Where can I buy one?

1:16:55 The voice changing devices that's a very expensive box. That's a universal audio, and it's the eventide harmonizer But you're talking like a thousand bucks Yes, don't don't you don't want that? You don't want that you want his other Voice-changing device which is cheaper oh you mean the podcaster pro no then what is he talking to all this one I Yeah, that one. This is a $3.95 purple Toysmith megaphone There you go something everyone can afford yes John have you read the afternoon of March 30th? It was written in the 80s about the Reagan assassination attempt covers topics You spoke about the CIA blah blah blah I kind of send my copy out. I have not read it you can send me the copy Thank you And he does want and the social end-of-show song

CHAPTER 18 / 44 Discussion

Sir Jacob and the Unaltered Augsburg Confession

Sir Jacob of the Unaltered Augsburg Confession is knighted following a $1,000 donation. A humorous exchange follows regarding a missing PayPal note that nearly ruined his birthday celebration.

sir jacob· paypal· knighthood· birthday

1:17:49 The George Carlin remix song. Don't know what it is. Oh, oh yeah that's good it's nice not even that long good I'm happy to put that in you got it okay two shows ago we also didn't get a letter and this is a shorter note this is from Jacob Tumal who came in with the highest donation was $1,000 if I'm not mistaken thank you for your amazing show the knighthood is an honor of my birthday on May 27th I would like to be known as Sir Jacob of the unaltered Augsburg Confession. I think he's on a list there, I hope." No! Oh well... It was funny you put the note in there but you didn't put it on the list okay. For jingles he would request that just send your cash, the money shot and a control room choice. Thanks for all the hard work you do. He sent a funny follow-up actually which you didn't read

1:18:43 John and Adam, I'm disappointed my note from PayPal was not transmitted to the spreadsheet. PayPal should expect a call from my lawyers for ruining my birthday. Below is the night... Go for it! Okay, where's he? Here we go We just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water Just send your cash That's a show-off money shot Jesus, look at that. That's a money shot. Kenny Conway is a money shot! We continue with Sir Christopher Dolan, $333.30 in Brookline Massachusetts. He sends his check-in through payelectronic.com and there's no note and nothing in the email so I'm assuming he just...

CHAPTER 19 / 44 Discussion

Baron of Bali and the Monsanto Rebranding Rumor

Sir Largeman is elevated to the Baron of Bali and Indonesia. He requests the "Monsanto" jingle, leading to a discussion about Bayer potentially dropping the Monsanto name after their acquisition. Adam Curry jokes about having Tourette's syndrome in response to the donor's critique of his verbal tics.

baron of bali· monsanto· bayer· tourette's· value for value

1:19:38 Helping us out without having to brag about it. Without asking for anything, yeah. Yeah, Sir Largaman in Taipei City Taiwan 28378 and he writes this $283.78 donation makes me a baron! Yep I'd like to be the Baron of the Ball... Oh, Baron of Bali Indonesia please since it's my favorite holiday destination By the way, Adam rather than being fixated on of course and freaking everyone out with your shrieks every time you catch yourself saying it. I haven't heard it today. Yeah, I said-I said it once... I'm just going easy on myself

1:20:22 Yeah, good. Perhaps you should focus on limiting the use of interesting both you and John say this is interesting. You know perhaps you should blow me there's a thought excessively on every show about anything and everything it's much more irksome and meaningless than of course in my view I love you guys anyway please play them on Santo jingle three times since i read the bear may drop the Monsanto name Oh, that I didn't hear that's an old story and it was interesting at the time. It was interesting yeah i thought was interesting if anything is interesting its mostly this this pretty interesting once the acquisition goes through we may never hear this beautiful jingle again can I give you everyone just a tip little tip because this very rude what your doing here not you our donor when someone has a disability

1:21:21 Yeah? I have Tourette's. Oh, you do! He has Tourette's And then the last thing you want to say is oh don't twitch, oh don't say this, don't say that It makes you want to do it it's the worst thing to do and its very rude yeah Social Justice Warriors Unite Right on man right on You're disrespecting my disability Its a microaggression I agree Bigly Terrible, terrible But its interesting you would say that It is very interesting You've got karma Really doubt they're gonna kill the name Monsanto. I have heard it. I have heard this It was a while spin around floating around in the rumor mill, but why would you do that? Oh

1:22:15 So let's have this unbelievable, I mean we may demean it and point these things out but there are a lot of people in the farming community that love Monsanto. It really kept a lot of people in business. Yeah especially in Africa! They kill themselves they love it so much. Especially India I think they're killing themselves. All right, well anyway that's our three well-wishers to executive and associate executive producers for show through 900 something high. 9 4 3...934 sorry. 934. Yeah we say we make it an even thousand you go off do your vinegar book I start day trading yeah yeah we could do that day trading there you go that would be great especially when the economy collapses. That's where you can make some money! Yeah if you can short day trade

1:23:08 I don't like shorting. That's negative. It's a negative man. Bad vibes, bro! I'm sincere about that. Yeah, I know you are. That's the joke of it. 943 so 69... 66 left? 66? Yeah. 7000 more. No yeah we can get there well thank you very much to our small group We had three. Yeah, three we had two execs one associate executive producer it is very much appreciated this is a value for value system the only way we stay on the air when you support us and some people support us with production work of all kinds which is extremely important

1:23:52 information and obviously we also need financial resources, and that's why you get your credits up front real credits. Remember our next show coming up on Sunday? Job! Oops, not that one Our next one... Dvorak dot org slash N A Now before you go out look for a job Go out and I don't know propagate the pork?! Our formula is this We go out We hit people in the mouth. Dembrados Shut ups! Shut ups

CHAPTER 20 / 44 Discussion

US Missile Defense Test and North Korea Warning

The Pentagon successfully conducted the first-ever intercept of a mock Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) over the Pacific. The interceptor was launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base and hit a target launched from the Marshall Islands. The test is interpreted as a deterrent signal to North Korea following their recent missile tests.

icbm· vandenberg air force base· pentagon· north korea· marshall islands

1:24:31 There we go. A little variation on everything. Okay, let's see what we have going on. Well a couple of things I can... We can dig in a little intermediate here is the lone IBM missile launch story everyone said lone ICBM missile launch story. Yes! First for US defense the Pentagon says it fired a missile that shot down a mock warhead over the Pacific It was fired from an underground silo at Vandenberg Air Force Base 60 miles northwest of Santa Barbara. It intercepted an intercontinental ballistic missile target launched from the Marshall Islands. The military says it was a direct hit

1:25:11 hit. It was the first ever missile defense test involving a simulated attack by an ICBM and is being seen as a warning shot to North Korea, which has tested short range ballistic missiles recently." I had a report on this as well which i'd like to play... It took down a flying saucer! That was your punchline? I'm sorry I have a report that it's basically the same but maybe a few subtle differences. On display for all to see, the complex technology behind America's ground-based interceptor designed to halt a long range missile in its tracks The interceptor was launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base on California central coast

1:25:51 It's target a mock-up of an intercontinental ballistic missile was fired from an island in the Pacific Well, that's a little different They went to hit a mock up of yeah Did even have like a North Korean star on it or something just to make it look more groovy 4,000 miles away The operation, likened by the Pentagon to a bullet hitting another bullet though at far higher speeds was successful. According to the director of the US Missile Defense Agency it was an incredible accomplishment and critical milestone. It demonstrated that America had a capable credible deterrent against a very real threat

1:26:29 Earlier this week, North Korea carried out its ninth ballistic missile test. Officials say the interceptor test was not timed as a specific response to the increased tensions although Pyongyang is facing growing isolation from the international community." So pretty much... Yeah Pretty much everyone has the same report This was just coincidence that we were shown this right now and I don't understand But I thought we had FAD! I thought we had Iron Dome And now we, what is the... I thought we had all this stuff. I thought we had the anti-ballistic missile system on all those ships! In Poland? I thought it was already in place?!

1:27:09 Yeah, I felt the same way. What are they launching something? That's why I think it was a flying saucer. What are they launching some screwy missile from an underground silo? By the way, no Vandenbergh...I didn't know they had underground silos that could launch from. Well, I guess they test Minutemen or something from there, I guess. I don't know what the deal is but there's a missile shooting out of the ground and then off it goes and it takes out something that left some other nobody took a movie of apparently, Marshall Islands I'm sure is. And it goes off and then the two of them crash like a bullet hitting the bullet and I was thinking the same thing. I thought we had a tonne of these systems that Navy has something that forgot what its called but its out in ocean there's 2 ships that deploy at yeah yeah I was very baffled by this story nobody no explanation no experts nobody comes on nobody says anything. Hey can I just something before I forget because you know were out of the way as something that came up in dimension B? Yeah

CHAPTER 21 / 44 Discussion

White House Leaks and Traitor Allegations

The issue of persistent leaks from the Trump White House is addressed, with Judge Jeanine Pirro calling the leakers "traitors." The hosts note that the leaking of Manchester bombing investigation details to the New York Times significantly angered British intelligence (MI6). Bob Woodward is cited as stating the current situation is not yet comparable to Watergate.

leaks· bob woodward· judge jeanine· manchester bombing· mi6

1:28:10 If everyone says the Trump White House is completely in disarray, it's messed up. The campaign was horrific everything's completely unorganized, disorganized people are all over the place What was it or who was it that was able to make them so good at colluding with the Russians and not mess it up? Well you're asking yeah if these guys were so... this reminds me of the George Bush conundrum You've got two sides of a story. George W Bush was either an evil genius or the dumbest guy ever, which was it? Now we have a situation where you're describing is oh these guys are so organized they could wipe out anybody they could collude in the background and get these analytic people in there who's all well coordinated well structured and now they're a bunch of boneheads that can't even tie their own shoes. Which is it? That would be...that's my question Yeah Well I'm wondering myself

1:29:09 Because they really, I mean it must have been Banyan. To be honest about it... It probably was! ...I think they're in some disarray? I think they were always in disarray and Hillary just lost to an inferior candidate because she ran a crap campaign and refuses to admit it. There is... As comedians like to say hey you couldn't beat Donald Trump?! What is wrong with you? I've got information, man. New shit has come to light! Oh yeah! Oh yeah! But I want to get this out now because it's a show day Now i've heard from my sources that arrests are pending of the leakers And if you watch even CNN If you watch now Everyone saying well...if there is something to this Russia thing The cover up is really off they shouldn't have covered it up So ther-there's a cover for sure but we're not sure what exactly was going on BUT

1:30:02 So this leaking, this is now being deemed well you know if someone leaked that information about the phone calls or anything or unmasking well yeah you can go to jail for that. And everyone's saying this now, well you can go to jail for that and uh here's Judge Jeanine... But the president coming home still has one huge problem And it's not Russia, it's not the Democrats. It is not any of his haters and if he doesn't fix this problem we are in big trouble What is it? The leaks Yes leaks There is a leaker in the White House there is a traitor inside the people's house A traitor who must be taken out

1:30:50 That person is an enemy of the United States. That person doing enormous damage, not just to the president who was certainly capable of taking care of himself but instead to our nation And the media, instead of focusing on children massacred from Manchester to Egypt are in a breathless frenzy awaiting another late day leak. Going from innuendo and non-stories and even publishing classified information Some actually saying where there's smoke there must be fire isn't there?

1:31:27 to the point where even Watergate reporter Bob Woodward is telling them to chill the hell out. Quote, we aren't even close to Watergate this leaker needs to be found immediately no holes barred now I have my own ideas who that person is but I'm not ready to share them yet Oh, yes. Right now tonight spare no resources spare no one find that person or persons the traitors the leakers The ones who are destroying our nation That leakers the mole the whole You you may be onto something because I don't think anything was going to be done about any of this Because it was all just anti-trump leaking, you know stemming from cia hatred but it's when they

CHAPTER 22 / 44 Discussion

Roger Stone Identifies Dina Powell as Leaker

Roger Stone has publicly accused Deputy National Security Advisor Dina Powell of being the primary White House leaker. The hosts examine Powell's background, including her ties to Huma Abedin and her previous tenure at Goldman Sachs. While Stone is confident, the hosts question if her profile fits the specific leaks regarding the Manchester attack.

roger stone· dina powell· huma abedin· goldman sachs· national security council

1:32:16 Leaked that stuff about the Manchester bombing to The New York Times. Yeah, Trump's yeah, right do it. That's right? That's right But it irked mi6 guys. Yeah, or am I think about it? Yep and the next thing you know now we're getting say okay This is no We've got what there was no reason for the New York Times to run any of that except from scoop mania Would you like to know who the leaker is you know who it is well? I don't but Get me Roger Stone! Here he is. Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. White House aide Dina Habib Powell? Best friends with Huma Abedin and Webb Hubble's daughter Chelsea Clinton? You're the leaker So he says... Dina- Oh hold on a second What's her name? I have it written down here

1:33:16 There it is. Her name is Dina Powell, her full name is Dina Habib Powell. Dina Habib? Dina Habib Powell and she's being accused of the leaker she is Arabic Egypt American She is a non-profit executive philanthropist, US policymaker and current US deputy national security advisor for strategy to President Donald Trump. She's also assistant to the president and senior counsel for economic initiatives. And she has no, almost no wiki. Let's see early life education. She was born in Egypt. What? She obviously has a security clearance but she is spooked

1:33:56 Let's take a look at her education. And by the way, from her perspective I don't see her being the leaker about that Manchester thing. Probably not. She attended University of Texas... Oh boy! Liberal Arts Delta Delta Delta sorority. Oh Tri-Delts? I have no idea is that good or bad? The Tri-Delts what are they? Is it a cult? It's a major major major sorority yeah She was interned. One of the dominant sororities. Let's see, intern to Kay Bailey Hutchinson. She moved to D.C., studied law took a job with Dick Armey. Yeah she is she's a long term Republican and she's married to Richard C Powell he works in public relations at Quinn Gillespie & Associates. And she seems like just kind of a middle mid-level type person who thinks... She doesn't have the right earmarks for my taste

1:34:58 Well, in March 2005 she received a new assignment including becoming an ambassador of sorts to the Arabic-speaking world. And this was through the Department of State and this is where she became friends with Uma Abedin. Hello! Then she joined Goldman Sachs... Yeah, I see that she does not have a spook background at all But the connection to Abedin is kind of telling right there. So it could be... Yeah, because that's a connection to the Muslim Brotherhood and a connection to Hillary Right and Hillary so she may be a hillbot Could be but anyway Roger Stone usually stakes his reputation on whatever he says I'm good with it

CHAPTER 23 / 44 Discussion

MI5 Investigates Itself Over Manchester Attack

UK Home Secretary Amber Rudd defended the decision for MI5 to conduct an internal investigation into how the Manchester bomber was missed by security services. Critics question the validity of an agency investigating its own potential failures, but Rudd maintains it is the necessary first step in a live operation.

mi5· amber rudd· manchester· intelligence failure· internal investigation

1:35:46 I'll keep it that way. But since you were talking about Manchester, there is some trouble surrounding the investigation there. Are you happy that MI5 should be investigating themselves? This is Home Secretary Amber Rudd. The MI5 says oh we messed up! We're going to investigate ourselves. I think it's the right first step There's a lot of information coming out at the moment about what happened, how this occurred and what people might or might not have known. And I think it is right that MI5 takes a look to find out what the facts are I think we shouldn't rush to make any conclusions at this stage. The important thing at this moment, I believe is that we allow the operation to continue and conclude as you said earlier arrests are still being made it's a live operation. The emphasis must be on making sure police and intelligence services

1:36:36 put their resources and effort into closing down this operation. Indeed, but why do you really think it's right that they should be the ones to investigate what went wrong here? Shut up slave! I think it is right that they do this... I think in the future we can look at anything else that might need to be done as a first step is absolutely right yes Yes very good very good Oh man just got a great news article in oh man The, uh... Ben Jacobs the guy- Oh my god. Hold on I have a clip for this and then i'll follow up with this new report This is funny Chef Smith was talking to the Fox News crew that apparently was there when the Republican candidate for representative from Montana What's his name? GM Forte? Yeah So he said there was a Fox News crew

CHAPTER 24 / 44 Discussion

Greg Gianforte Body Slam and Broken Glasses

The physical altercation between Montana congressional candidate Greg Gianforte and Guardian reporter Ben Jacobs is detailed by Fox News witnesses. The hosts discuss the "body slam" incident and the subsequent donation of Jacobs' broken glasses to the Newseum. A study from Business Insider is cited, claiming journalists operate at a lower cognitive level and consume more alcohol than average.

greg gianforte· ben jacobs· montana· fox news· newseum

1:37:32 there who could corroborate what happened. Now, you've all heard the tape... Yeah it's just a guy screaming at him So here's Shep with Alicia Akuna who was with-who was there at the time A statement from Gianforte's campaign reads in part After asking Jacobs to lower the recorder Jacobs declined Greg then attempted to grab the phone that was pushed in his face Jacobs grabbed Greg's wrist and spun away from Greg, pushing them both to the ground. Is that what you saw? What did you see? You were right there." That sounds plausible I'll say. Yeah he could stumble around in an office and that could happen Well when reporters shove microphones in your face it's a very offensive act. And if... yeah If you've had it happen just like oh man just hold on second let's back off a little bit with that thing

1:38:25 It's a sexual aggression. It's sexual microaggression totally of the gay variety Yeah, I was two feet maybe three feet from the two men when this started ship and that is not what I saw We were talking to Jim Forte right before interview our photographer Keith Raley our field producer Faith Mangan we were all together in this relatively small room setting up for an interview that we had planned. He came in, Jim Forte and we started talking about restaurants and things in Bozeman specifically and then about two minutes later Jacob came- That's what you're talking about! What's that? Yeah, they're talking about when we can go eat. This place is boring." Yes! Hey man how long are you here? What motel are you at? Yeah how was it yeah sucks balls yeah I know ah hate this You know there was a report i don't have it anymore that says that journalists are uh grouchy and unhappier than most people. Let me see no wait what exactly... Here oh no it's better than that Journalists brains function at a lower level than average

1:39:24 and this is a study. And we've chosen voluntarily to do this kind of thing. This is from Business Insider, journalists drink too much are bad at managing emotions and operate at a lower level than average according to a new study the study led by Tara Swart A neuroscientist and leadership coach analyzed 40 journalists from newspapers, magazines broadcasts and online platforms over seven months. The participants took part in tests related to their lifestyle health and behavior It was launched in association with the London Press Club Is that a... That's legit Legit outfit? And the objective was to determine how journalists can thrive under stress it is not yet peer-reviewed Not that it matters

1:40:09 And the sample size is small so the results should not necessarily be taken as fact. Okay? They probably just did Washington Post reporters. Well, each subject completed a blood test wore heart rate monitor for three days kept of food and drink diary for week and completed brain profile questionnaire How about that 41% of the unit said they drank 18 or more... of subjects said they drank 18 or more units of alcohol a week What's a unit Which is four units above the recommended weekly allowance. A glass of wine, a glass of beer is a unit. A shot of tequila is a unit. Less than 5% drank the recommended amount of water

1:40:51 However, an interview is conducted in conjunction with the brain profile results. The participants indicated they felt their jobs had a lot of meaning and purpose And they showed high mental resilience Swartz suggested that gave them advantage over people in other professions and dealing with the work pressure Etc so that goes on it's in the show notes you can take a look at okay? Well, we'll continue specifically and then about two minutes in Ben Jacobs came in said he was with The Guardian put his recorder up about Right here, standard location from what I've seen and started- Yeah. Standard offensive sexual microaggression location. ...asking about the CBO score or the Congressional Budget Office score and his reaction that's when Gianforte said that he didn't you know get to him later Jacobs persisted And then... In other words He was in a hole this is like I'm just playing devil's advocate because of course Shit there it is It's not okay to physical violence is never okay in any manner but

1:41:41 But I do understand you come in, the guy looks like a douche. Like, hey where's the CBOIB? Yeah i'm not interested to ask Seth about that. Get off! Get out of here! That's when Jim Forte said he would get to him later. Jacobs persisted and then Jim Forte talked to Shane who was his press guy And at that point, and I was looking right at the two men. At that point, that's when Gianforte put both hands on either side of his neck grabbed him, grabbed Jacob threw him to the ground against this wall on the ground got on top of him not really straddling but just kind of over him punched in about 2 or 3 times and was saying um... i'm really sick and tired of this something to that effect uh... then we saw Jacobs, I saw him he scrambled away is on his knees

1:42:31 sat and his glasses were broken. He said, you broke my glasses you just body slammed me and there was I was in shock And so we're Keith and Faith that we were just really could not believe this just happened because it went from a very calm big cordial discussion to just this craziness So first he body slammed him then they put out a statement today and in the statement he lied about it The statement does not reflect anything that I remember. It's not what Keith and Faith remember either, so no it's not...it's not what happened. It is simply not what happened. The timing is... This reporter was doing his job and yeah. Yeah. Can I throw something in here? Yep! Bipolar the guy said bipolar psycho Well big big article in the Guardian

1:43:17 Here's Ben Jacobs, and it is a multi-picture pictorial of him at the optician. And he is wearing his sling because of course he is hurt... ...and Jacobs is being fitted for new pair of glasses by Optician Russell Byron settling on a pair black frame from Banana Republic The glasses will be ready for pick up next week and the cost will covered by The Guardian and its company Health Insurance And this, at the request of the Washington DC Media Museum, The Newseum, Jacobs has agreed to donate his broken glasses to the museum for display in their collection. Hey! The head is next! Exactly! The head is on its way... This is insanity. That's totally crazy. It's so fantastic.

CHAPTER 25 / 44 Discussion

Orlando Pulse Nightclub Shooting Police Video

New police body camera footage from the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando has been released. The hosts revisit their theory that many casualties may have resulted from police crossfire during the confrontation with Omar Mateen. An audio glitch in the news clip featuring a "gong" sound is noted.

orlando· pulse nightclub· omar mateen· body cam· police bullets

1:44:09 Man, oh man. Oh man! And we just plug away. You know there was a new story about they're trying I don't know why they're revisiting it but they were revisiting the Atlantic the Orlando shooting Yeah, I caught a story. What's going on? Well they're just showing that they got thousands of hours of police tape and they wanted to show what really...they did trying to reconstruct it just to give us some vapid entertainment but and i have the clip of the whole thing but you know Why bother with that? Because we know this thing has been phonied up in some way or other because the cops came in and shot. They do, I have to play this too. Okay we have to play it. I got two clips. We had to play this because there was a piece of information here is bogus.

1:44:55 Orlando shooter Old Stuff Redo, CBS. The police body cam video shows officers racing to the scene of the nightclub shooting. They show what it was like from the officer's point of view as they helped those shot inside the club. Then in the next clip sounds of a confrontation with gunman Omar Mateen who was holding hostages Mateen killed 49 people and injured 53 when he arrived at the Pulse nightclub on that Sunday, June 12th. Yeah and our assertion is most people died at the hands of police bullets. Yeah which I think is still valid but what I clipped out of that was uh... the medley of these cops screaming is kind of interesting

1:45:54 Yeah, I wasn't expecting that. Here we go. Come to me! Hands up! I can't really... Supposedly, let me see your hands. Hands up in the air. Yeah I heard that and then let me see him now? Is tha- are we screaming? Yeah lemme see him now And then i heard a gong but that might have been you No! Well I don't know how the gong got there You did that NO! No I didn't put a gong in listen I played this side note I did not put a gong in Listen Come to me come to me come to me hands up hands up That's not me Thats in your clip

1:46:46 Oh, well that's a flaw. I wanted to start putting out giant ISO medley of cops screaming. I think it'd be very entertaining once it gets to about 10 or 15 minutes long. Yeah we could do that! We put that cop screaming goats when you goats screaming when you Yoko scream we just have a whole scream fest yeah with all them kind of overlaid in a very melodic way yeah mmm yummy Well so apparently this new head of South Korea is like just a stooge. Very big problem, not a buyer John the head is not a buyer of our stuff well he's gonna be uh he apparently you should throw more thads that he doesn't want or nobody wants but they're going in there anyway. Now South Korea's president is calling for an investigation after his defense ministry brought in four more launchers for the American Thad anti-... The science is in! ...the government

CHAPTER 26 / 44 Discussion

South Korea THAAD Deployment Controversy

South Korean President Moon Jae-in ordered an investigation after four additional THAAD missile defense launchers were brought into the country without being reported to his new administration. The deployment has caused diplomatic tension with China, which fears the system's radar will be used for regional spying.

thaad· south korea· president moon· china· missile defense

1:47:41 President Moon said he was shocked to learn from his national security chief that four additional THAAD launchers were brought in without being reported to the new administration or to the public. He ordered a thorough investigation." However, The Pentagon says it was done in coordination with Seoul. We continue to work very closely with the Republic of Korea government and we have been very transparent in all our actions throughout this process FAD or Terminal High Altitude Area Defence is a US system with the capability of intercepting missiles at a range of something like 200 kilometres. Well Washington and Seoul agreed on its installation in 2016, we can have a quick look at it here too

1:48:24 FAD is usually composed of a radar, command and control centre and then also missile launcher. Its powerful radar has the detection range something like over 2000km. Something though that is now naturally raising concerns among other countries in the region As you can see from this map too three more countries fall under its radius of operation China Fears that the radar system could actually be used to spy on them The tensions on the Korean Peninsula have even found a place in pop music All right, then they did some song. That was a little just as classic thousand kilometers a yeah That's pretty what do you need that much range if you could just kind of monitor North Korea? Which is a watch the Chinas and watch the then yeah the Japanese Yeah, or that's what that's what you do

CHAPTER 27 / 44 Discussion

Judy Woodruff Breathing and Scott Pelley Firing

The hosts critique the heavy breathing and audio compression used in Judy Woodruff's PBS broadcasts. They also report on the firing of Scott Pelley from the CBS Evening News, noting he will remain at 60 Minutes but was reportedly removed from the anchor chair due to ratings or internal friction.

judy woodruff· pbs· scott pelley· cbs· ivanka trump

1:49:19 I had to bring four more of these things in there. It's just this is a scam we can see it coming down Broadway Yeah, yeah, yeah Let me see we've got here I do have...as an aside, I noticed that Judy Woodruff in particular on PBS really breathes hard when she opens her stories. And then she goes and she starts to talk. Yes, yes, yeah. She has big breaths. Big breaths? She probably doesn't breathe while she's speaking. I know how this works as I have to do that during the... She catches a breath. You can hear catch of breath but shorties as she goes. President Trump today...

1:50:00 Yeah, you're right. Let me hear it again That's the example that's President Trump but here's the if you want to hear it over and over and over again this is another clip which I decided just to play the breathing part three times It's Trump shoes about the shoe story Uh...I don't know the shoe story Ivanka Trump's fashion line is facing calls to cut ties with a shoe supplier in China. That's after the arrests of three activists who had investigated labor abuses, the Democratic National Committee and Amnesty International both called today for the Trump brand to respond. The company declined comments. There is something else I'm hearing. I'm hearing a little overactive compressor

1:50:47 And that will do it every single time. That could be going on because she is extremely loud with the in-breath and It's very noticeable I've been picking up on other guys too, I mean this the new CBS guys by the way Scott Pelley is fired He's done Oh really? I didn't know this oh yes This big news happened yesterday Scott Pelley has been yeah... I was looking at the head Yeah, he's got a pellies out. He's still in 60 minutes but he is now going to do what did you do? Why'd he get fired? What house and they start calling him poison Pelly whoa I'm gonna nickname like that. You're done yeah Poison petal what did he do it?

1:51:29 I don't know what he did, but they've kicked him off the CBS and evening news. Either the ratings weren't going well or is too grouchy looking or I dunno. I can't find out, but they're gonna replace him with a guy who's one of the guys that is one of his substitute guys and he's pretty decent. He's good. That is delivery. But I've been noticing these guys now, and listening for all of them who do the deep breathing and the compressor does have something to do with it obviously. Hey um... Do you guys on Dvorak Horowitz Unplugged thank you for telling me i was asleep in the last show? I woke up from it thanks! What was the idea? Have you picked up on these post hypnotic suggestions that we've been slipping in there? Yes I have possibly

CHAPTER 28 / 44 Discussion

Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz and Economic Anxiety

Leaked audio of Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz suggests he is blaming "episodic chaos" from the Trump presidency for a decline in consumer sentiment. The hosts interpret this as a defensive move ahead of a potentially poor quarterly earnings report and suggest shorting the stock.

starbucks· howard schultz· consumer behavior· shorting· quarterly earnings

1:52:21 Do you guys follow Starbucks? Because you do stock picking and stuff. I don't follow Starbucks personally, I don't know that Horowitz does he's got his favorites that he follows very well So i think i would call... You like shorting! I'm gonna call a short here. I'm gonna call it short then you guys can play. Starbucks is a short all right and here's why this is leaked audio and video of Howard Schultz the CEO And what he says here, in my mind is a setup to defend the bad quarter. The world is screwed up people are unsettled there's tremendous amount of pressure and anxiety in America we have a president that is creating an episodic chaos every single day it has no doubt affecting consumer behavior and consumer sentiment Oops

1:53:17 Oh, you might be. I think that's a good observation. You're probably right he's probably going to roll out something that's bad news sounds like it sounds like a bad quarter to me yeah yeah this is a good analysis i would say Yeah will you tell Horowitz and put everything on red? Wait different game we got to talk about this the obsession about the president's tweeting It has now gotten to a part where Katie Turr And you know, I want to like Katie Turr. She has a sympathetic face. Yeah she's very sympathetic looking and seems like a kind person. Yeah she does and you know she is MSNBC which is her problem

CHAPTER 29 / 44 Discussion

Katie Tur Hysteria Over Presidential Tweets

MSNBC anchor Katie Tur expressed extreme anxiety over Donald Trump's unmonitored Twitter account, fearing a hack could lead to accidental nuclear war with North Korea. The hosts mock the hysteria, noting that while tweets can affect stock prices, they are unlikely to trigger an immediate military launch without chain-of-command verification.

katie tur· msnbc· twitter· nuclear war· hacking

1:54:00 Well, no she's really NBC. Oh true but this is a clip from MSNBC. They're making a lot of the NBC heavyweights people that are big time network robots. Yeah they gotta show up yeah they got to show up. You can't go over there at MSNBC and humiliate themselves! You can just imagine it's like where you going oh wait you're going over to...to The Annex? Yeah, damn it. The annex the Joy-Reid network? Damn it yeah the brass told me I gotta go and help him out Shit hate this like I got a birthday. I got a thing to do yeah, can you know and then can just imagine going You've got to go over there what'd you do would you do you got to go over to the annex huh? To the kids table...the farm team..The Mickey Mouse outfit

1:54:42 She's losing sleep over the president's tweets and this has to do with North Korea as well. If something like that can stay on Twitter for six hours, what does that say about who controls the information coming out of the White House? And what if somebody hacked into Twitter and posted a message that could have global implications saying something like Donald Trump is or I'm gonna launch nuclear weapons isn't really concerning about the chain of events that could set off. Yes this is precisely the thing that keeps me up at night literally since Trump was inaugurated, I am afraid that Donald Trump will tweet something that will launch us into a war

1:55:28 a potential conflict that we won't be able to get out of. Talk to me about the security concerns, the implications of what it means that Donald Trump has a way to communicate with America and the world that is not monitored, that is not checked? What if his account gets hacked? Just say what if his account gets hacked! And somebody posted a message saying you know, we are aiming nukes at North Korea Is there anybody that can go in there and say, oh my God no take it down. Is anybody monitoring this account after hours in the middle of the night? How does something like this stay up? I think she's really hysterical now she means it No, she doesn't mean it She wouldn't be insincere

1:56:10 Yeah, that's what so sad. She is hysterical now she does make a point for when the president tweet something certainly about a company it stock and usually usually goes down and then ends higher than where it started for some reason no thats a lot of positive ways to making money Made an interesting comment, I thought when she said that tweet can be up for six hours. The tweet is up! Well you can delete it is what she means You can delete it five minutes later Yeah But nobody's deleting after six hours It just goes into the ether and still there And if you had a account that only followed Donald Trump Yeah but you could do it would just be there forever Yeah well we're all gonna die

CHAPTER 30 / 44 Discussion

Trump Private Cell Phone Number Scandal

The Associated Press reported that President Trump has given his private cell phone number to world leaders in Canada, France, and Mexico, bypassing secure lines. Adam Curry claims the number is well-known to New York journalists and suggests Trump may find his personal device more secure from internal White House leaks than official lines.

cell phone· donald trump· security· associated press· encryption

1:56:57 And part of that is the media's historical place in the chain of command to communicate to the folks. They go get the statement, or they go to the press conference and they determine what the message is. This this is a continuing problem We, who is supposed to...we do that. We communicate that. We. Yeah well that brings up another story which I thought was the most interesting- Oh there it is! You said interesting this better be really interesting It's very...hold on a second we're stopping the show. Stopping the show. Okay hold on a second. We're gonna go to the book of knowledge Hold on a second stop the show everybody. Stop the show and we'll be right back.

1:57:47 Okay, let's get a synonym printout Synonyms intriguing fascinating nibs ponderous Ponders I like ponder. I understand not Ponders does not mean interesting hmm in I like fascinating or like intriguing and That's fascinating. Fascinating I tell you this is fascinating yeah, fascinated luring I Say I say amusing I say amusing unusual note Amusing amusing I say odd using attention grabbing impressive intriguing lovely pleasing provocative sexy how about sexy

1:58:34 Sexy. That's sexy. I don't see that as sexy, I think it does kind of remarkable. These are all good words war room. Good words is remarkable. Amazing. We should go back to using amazing. Yeah, amazing. I think you know a lot. It's amazing. John is just so amazing. I tell you it's just fabulous and you know how that works Riveting. I'm gonna print this out, put it up and then for the next show, not this show but the next one, I'll be referring to it when I need an adjective. Alright so I thought the most gripping... The most gripping story of the week was about the phone

1:59:25 The phone? Donald Trump gave his... This is a big scandal on all these networks. Here's the clip, cell phone number given out by Trump. There's word that President Trump has invited other countries' leaders to call him on his private cell phone. The Associated Press and others report that this is raising concerns about holding sensitive conversations on unsecured lines the reports say that Mr Trump has given his cell number to the leaders of Mexico, Canada and France. Every news network played this up

2:00:02 How could he do this? This guy's totally irresponsible to be giving out his cell phone number. John, I have his number! That's right you do. And i have is personal secretary's cell phone number. Every journalist who has ever been in New York has this number and it's a great number and just to prove to you that ends with 8000. It's a great number As I hear these stories being rolled out, and it...I'm hearing it as a solidly bounded in dimension. And sitting here just you know right there. I hear the following Donald Trump is giving out his cell phone numbers and everybody's irked about it because now the CIA the NSA and they everybody can't listen in on his calls and then leak them to someone That's what I hear hmm cuz how did they get all that information about his phone call with the guy in Australia? How'd that get leaked

2:01:07 Well, that was just something they wrote up a transcript. He didn't call on the cell phone I don't think anything he called no and that's what i'm saying he wasn't on the cell phone I think he's gonna he's giving out his cellphone number he figures it's more secure It probably is got every Tom Dick and Harry listening in on his other phone well you know all of it Is captured so unless they use some form of encryption all of this is captured They just need to find it should be yeah They just need to look for the starts with 917 ends with 8000 number And you're good to go it's not that hard Well, he may have another line. And you know what I do with that number right? Use it to pick up babes at the local Starbucks. Yeah! I call him all the time and go Donald this is Vladimir here hello. And then he goes nahhh you got me again Curry. Okay maybe not. Little Maxine Waters

CHAPTER 31 / 44 Discussion

Maxine Waters Confronted by Trump Supporter

Representative Maxine Waters was filmed in a heated exchange with a Trump supporter in California. Waters reiterated her commitment to impeaching the President, citing his comments about women and alleged ties to Putin. The hosts discuss the difference between impeachment and the expulsion process for members of Congress.

maxine waters· impeachment· putin· russian oil· expulsion

2:02:02 Of course, always. Do we have the jingle first? We can do the jingle first! Which of the Maxine Waters' Jingles is your favorite? I don't really have a favorite. Like that waiter...we went to a restaurant the other day and you know because i'm snide about it You go in he say what is this a really good veal piccata and the guy goes yes good What do you think's the best thing on this menu and the guy says Oh, everything is great. Everything is great yeah I don't like that and my comment is always the same That's useful thank you Thank you for your cooperation Maxine is at an event in California she's hijacked by a media assault attack I guess we would say these days from clearly a Trump supporter who has her iPhone at a very interesting angle oh! I should have said sexy angle

2:02:59 Um, from- and shooting from down below so it's clandestine filming but you kind of look up Maxime's nostrils which just makes the whole effect that much nicer. Two car garage! So I wanted to give that to ya And also her lashes Her lashes are an inch long An inch! The fake... ...and then her nails You know, I don't understand women who have nails When you can't function with your hands? I mean, you cannot use a keyboard properly Have you ever seen this Oh yeah. It's like a checkout line, you'll see it and they're using pencils... I like the way they have the natural nails that are all curling in so that everybody... Yeah and they have to use a pencil in order to hit keys on the register. Yeah. I don't know if they think that sexy? It's creepy! It's what I imagine a corpse's fingernails look like since they continue to grow for decades.

2:03:52 There you go. I'm watching a corpse at the check out. Alright, so there was a corpse doing an event and this woman walks up and films it. Hi! How are you? I've been fine. I've been calling your office and reading emails... And maybe if you could give me five minutes of your time. You wouldn't have 700 thousand?! Yes yes yes! I wonder why she says that you can have seven hundred thousand minutes of my time. Wonder what was on her mind. This is Cole. You're watching Two Spies I understand that. Yes, yes! And so when...I'm in Washington most of the time you know that? I fly in on Monday and I fly back on Thursday or Friday

2:04:29 But that's every week, so I have one day sometimes. And we try to figure out how to see everybody—that we can't. So tell me what you want talk about? Well, I just wanted to talk about your representation in Washington regarding our president as well. Yes. I can't stand him! He is the most horrible man I've ever seen in my life. I love my president very much and respect your position and my position as well. I'm glad you do. But I also want to know why you weren't representing me in Washington by opposing the president. Your president is a dishonorable lying man. He mocked a journalist? I've never seen a grown man do that! I love this part, he mocked the journalist?! I've never seen a grown man do that...

2:05:06 What she meant to say was he mocked a disabled journalist, but it just comes out this way with Maxine. I'm glad you do! Your position is my position as well? But I also want to know why you weren't representing me in Washington by opposing the president. The President is a dishonorable lying man. He mocked a journalist. Yes. I've never seen a grown man do that. He talked about grabbing women by the private parts. He lies every day. He's in bed with Putin and the Russians about oil. Everybody around him are allies with the Kremlin and with the oligarchs of Russia. They're going to take us down! You mentioned comments about him being a liar, and grabbing women's pussy— He is a liar. That's right. —which I don't think he ever did. He said it. What grown man talks like that?

2:05:55 I don't care about Clinton. Well, of course you do. Listen, I'm going to work every day until I get him impeached! I am going to work every day to make sure that he isn't and that's your impeachment. But that's okay. Thank you so much, Chief Waterston. You can't impeach a member of Congress for not representing me in office. Thank you so much. Thank you! He says, you can't impeach a woman of the House or the Congress. You can't impeach a woman of the Congress It is true that the impeachment process is not applied to all members of Congress, whether they're men or women. But you most definitely can get kicked out of Congress and that's happened more than you'd know really. I got a kicker out it's too much fun

2:06:41 Well, it's called expulsion. You can be expelled from the United States Congress. Yeah and then you have to commit high crimes not just be a loud mouth No that is only for impeachment of the president or vice-president That is high crime misdemeanor It can be for very different things for expulsion of congress My millennials stay woke!

CHAPTER 32 / 44 Discussion

UC Berkeley Chancellor Gym Membership Scandal

An investigation into UC Berkeley Chancellor Nicholas Dirks revealed he misused nearly $5,000 in university funds for a personal trainer and gym membership. The audit itself cost the university over $57,000, including expensive travel for investigators. The hosts criticize the administrative bloat and lack of financial oversight in the UC system under Janet Napolitano.

uc berkeley· nicholas dirks· janet napolitano· embezzlement· audit

2:07:30 A new Cal scandal right out of the president's office, which is what Janet Napolitano did. Tonight a new money mess at UC Berkeley now the Chancellor's gym membership is under scrutiny and as Emily Turner reports the cost of the investigation is really adding up For a world-renowned university system, the math doesn't add up. UC Berkeley Chancellor Nicholas Dirks misused $4,990 of university funds but the investigation to discover the sum cost 10 times that for grand total of 57 thousand six hundred and seventy one dollars according to The Daily Californian we wanted to talk to someone from the UC office in the president so this morning we called and we emailed

2:08:16 for an interview. We have not gotten a response." The investigation revealed Dirks used the money for a personal trainer and campus gym membership over two years he also had a campus Precourt fitness machine in his home The Office of the President racked up the hefty tab figuring it out after Dirks resigned in April of last year. Here's where that $57K went... According to The Daily Californian, the Office of the President paid the LA firm Public Interest Investigations Incorporated to look into the matter at a rate of $200 an hour for 279 billable hours

2:08:55 It also paid for the firm's president to fly from LA to Oakland three times. And while it was always on Southwest, each ticket never cost less than $400. That's where I cut it off because he continued how do you fly from Oakland to LA and spend four hundred dollars each time? You fly a sixty nine dollar flight No, if you need to... I think with Southwest if you get the- No they do have a higher- It's significantly higher. The business anytime, you can change it whenever you want. It could easily be up to three four hundred dollar range. It could be. Yeah no it could be but why would you get those tickets when there is always cheaper tickets available? Very obvious because she needs to be very flexible You know she can't get anywhere on time cause' she's Janet

2:09:45 Well, no it wasn't her. It was the president of the investigation company that kept doing it. Oh well then he's just... Janet of course flies private jet. The investigator was padding the bill then? Yeah you think? Obvious! But anyway the whole thing seems very skammish but let's well I would go to Southwest and look up these prices but I'm not gonna do it for you. We're running a tad bit behind. to move into our thank you segment, which will be short sadly. Before we do that one of our producers tried what we always ask is get on some of these shows there's so many open holes! You can call C-SPAN...you can do all kinds of things and this was a very valiant effort I think this is uh damn it I forgot who did this he called in during Lionel's

CHAPTER 33 / 44 Discussion

Lionel of RT and No Agenda Shout-outs

A listener attempted to get a "No Agenda" shout-out on Lionel's Periscope stream. The hosts discuss the practice of "log rolling" and mutual promotion between alternative media personalities.

lionel· rt· periscope· log rolling· shout-out

2:10:44 Periscope. Lionel from RT Yeah, that guy And got really close! Uh... and it goes on and on Lionel is Putin in disguise Love you Lionel thank you Thanks Lionel James Fine Lionel is best Lionel is the man The Goose Man A lot of hearts Thank you so much for that Uhh Noah Jendish I like when people say Check out other shows Damnit So close Noah Jen- shi-shi-shi Close Why could he say no agenda show? Well, he's not gonna talk about other shows. He ain't listening to what he says. We talk about other shows like we're talking about his show right now! Yeah, you can talk about other shows but he said something about it. I like when people say check out other shows well that's terrific Lionel is Alex Jones That's terrific Wow

2:11:36 It was a good try though. A douchebag! Yeah, a douchebag. Get on your emails and give Lionel crap for that. Yeah. Who were big fans of him. Yeah, he would be you know do a little log rolling here That's what you're supposed to doing in a little log rolling yeah You know log rolling now I don't really know how you scratch my back. I scratch yours It's the way it goes you give somebody a plug they give you a play really really Lionel yeah

CHAPTER 34 / 44 Discussion

Associate Executive Producers and Jobs Karma

A list of donors contributing between $50 and $100 is read, including several "6117" summer promotion participants. The hosts grant "Jobs Karma" to listeners seeking employment and acknowledge the "Value for Value" model that sustains the show during the summer months.

donations· jobs karma· ham radio· 6117· value for value

2:12:22 Yeah, log rolling. Thanks man. Another one of the words we got this thing's building up it's building up to a crescendo yeah We'll never do anything with it but yes, we will we will we will sir dirtbag Dave is here Concrete California 1 2 3 4 5 thanks for all the hard work he says Christina Panin Rambleton, Virginia at $100. Ernest Weeks, a hundred dollars from parts on New Lawn Baker... Wait, new listeners? Let's de-douche the new listeners. You've been de-douched! Since Ernest may not know about the dedouching process... Well it's possible, it's possible but he says I'm a new listener and like your perspective an insightful thank you. Thank you. Lawn Baker 100 bucks Joel Filiole I guess what do you think? Filiole in Glasgow

2:13:11 Niner, niner, niner, niner. One of the last of the nine or niners. William Smuck 7575 in San Diego California Chris Bedgio 7373 K9 CAB 7 3's Q to 5 alpha Charlie Charlie I fired it up. Yes, I fired up the ham radio yesterday for you forgotten 869 69 Sebastopol over here Caleb and Kniffin and these are all 61 17s These are the celebratory of coming of summers headed our way June 1st night 2017 ah so at 6117 that was the game a good gimmick

2:13:50 It worked, it got a few people. And now I'm gonna name them. Caleb Kniffin, Robert Verderber in Palmetto Florida. David Hawes in Egem, Surrey. You did. Robert Newby, 6117 and I like the name. I wonder if he's a newbie? Dwight Schick in Burlington. And he has never heard that before! No of course not! No one has ever used that line. I wonder if he is a newbie... His name is Newby it was funny.

2:14:27 Dwight Schick in Burlington, Ontario. Birthday shout out we got listed 6117 Scott Napier and Hagerstown Miss Maryland Sam Godwin 6117 Caleb Hilley 6117 Chuck Walters Ron Jordan West Dundee Illinois David Arlanis I think Clark Pruden, Kevin McClain Austin Wilson in Sammamish Washington. Very one of the famous towns in Washington. Bill and Guy Boazzi Here's a name we haven't seen you know in awhile. Guy Boazzi Yeah he's uh I believe he was... He knows this he says yeah Rehovot

2:15:18 He's the last on the list, so I'll read this. He said, I have not fallen off the cliff but my eco situation in the past month was in the red. So I could not afford a donation listening to the show continuously. I felt like a real douchebag. Yes! In the past I've contributed, but now i don't. The show is important to you please find a way to contribute." I did! Oh thank you so much and yeah he's a baron yeah sure it's a baron Thank you very much i'm going to give him some jobs karma Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs Karma Mark from Chapel Hill, North Carolina 5746. Mark, uh, Mark... Ralph Massaro at Double Nickels on the Dime Dame Amanda Rosett she's been a she's one of our big supporters and she wants some out-of-the blue jobs karma. Jobs! Jobs! Jobs and jobs let's vote for job

2:16:15 We break for games of knights. Yes, games and knights always get preferential treatment. Yes, Vernon Rockville Connecticut Sonia Seeker in Owensville Missouri oh I want to say Maryland dude named Mohammed's back with 5150 and the following people are $50 donors name and location Shane Rezios Sir Shane in Saskatoon Sir Corwin Underwood in Hamilton, Ohio. John Simmons in Corona California Dean Kostenko in Jacksonville Arkansas Dennis Brown and Rhinelander Wisconsin Tyler Schmidt in Bothell Washington And last but not least a short list Jared Seuss In Chicago Illinois I wonder if he's related to The Good Doctor

2:17:12 Yeah, well he wasn't I was I'm a G. You know you don't know anyway when I thank these folks for helping us out on show nine something nice 934 934 60 66 left to go and we have another show coming up And we'll continue the 61 17 promotion for the next show and then that will be the end of it okay fantastic Thank you everybody. The list is short, but we know the summer months are here and so that's kind of typical But we can certainly use all the help that we can get and this is appreciated also people who came in under $50 a lot of You on these subscriptions John could just go through the Dvorak org slash na page

CHAPTER 36 / 44 Discussion

Plunge Protection Team and Market Manipulation

Investor Asher Edelman explains the "Plunge Protection Team," a group created under the Reagan administration to stabilize markets during crashes. Edelman suggests the team intervened the night of Trump's election to reverse a 600-point futures drop. The hosts discuss how this group, which includes the Fed and Treasury, operates without public records or audits.

plunge protection team· asher edelman· stock market· vix· volatility

2:20:41 And thank you for your never-ending support, it seems. We really like that. Okay... Extra long make good knighting... Well, wait is he not a black knight if we forgot to knight him? Did we forget to knight him? Well did we knight him or not? Now I'm confused. We DID knight him! We can black knight him if you want. I mean, I think the peerage committee could make a snap decision. Well give me some metal man Alright, yeah. Okay here comes nice We'll give it to you one more time just in case we will make you a black knight Thank you very much for your support of the best podcasting university amount of $1,000 or more and hereby I'm very proud to pronounce Katie Black Knight

2:21:28 Sir Jacob at the unaltered Augustsburg Confession. For you, my friend we have Hookers and Blow Red Boys and Chardonnay We got Lead Slinger's Whiskey & Gunpowder Labia and Lasagna Sappho and Spice Harf Eggs with Lee Sauce Kiltz and Kilt Lifter Ale Meth Slots and Moonshine Crickets and Cream DMT and Astral Travel Malted Barley and Hops Breast Milk and Pavlum Ginger ale and Gerbils Sparkling Cider Escorts Bong Hits and Bourbon Vodka Vanilla Geishas and Sake Rubinette's Women and Rose Wenches and Beer And always Mutton and Me I'm gonna do a Judy here. Go to NoahGeneration.com slash rings and Eric will be happy to sort it all out for you, thank you very much! Um...I would like to do something serious and then something stupid so i am very interested since we have it on the list and I'd like to cross things off the list in The Plunge Protection Team. Oh yes, I'm very preoccupied with this for some reason

2:22:27 And nobody else seems to care. I play these clips, so this is a guy Edelman character This is the guy who was the model for Gordon Gekko Ah in Wall Street? Yeah. Greed is good! This is Gordon Gekko, now he's not even a trader anymore he's a famous ex-trader and he has gone into the art scam... I'm sorry what did I say? Art market. Isn't that just money laundering?! I don't know what it is. All i know, is that the art market is lucrative so let's play about plunge protection so people know what it is this is a group of people that were put together supposedly in 1987 by Reagan after the flash crash it took place in 87 and was October 87 wasn't not it was a black man with some beauty It was everybody thought we're all gonna die

2:23:24 It's a short-term phenomenon happens every 80 years and 80 years from 1987 it'll happen again. Yes the cycles book This is a big cycle or this is a massive eighty year one And they happened in 1907 having an 87 will happen, and you can do the math 17 now it will do a It was a problem, and they did and it was bull crap because it was just a crash that that returned back to normal. Nothing really changed afterwards and so they feel that a team was needed to prevent this sort of thing from happening because it really freaked people out So the plunge protection team was created by Reagan and apparently has been used a lot Let's hear about it from this guy. The Fed is not excited about dysfunction

2:24:08 So you said, and we've all heard of this. I'm not sure! You know this is my observation. None of us are discounting anything that's being said but i'll ask you this question where these positions held and have they ever been audited? And if not is there a agency or independent group out there that should audit it? That of course what I preach It is very specific in the Reagan order that no minutes be kept and no records of transactions be made public plug, plug. So, they're somewhere only known to the folks within the group. To the firms? Exactly And a couple of banks, yeah One wonders also what influence this has on bank trading because it's certainly something to know that other people don't know All right Asher, it's always good to hear from you Thank You! Asher Edelman The founder of Edelman Arts and legendary investor I thought you played Clip 2 before you played Clip 1 Shit...I'm so sorry

2:25:08 Did I really? Oh shit. We just play clip one. ...like we had in 1987 and it's called the Plunge Protection Group, and the plunge protection group was put in place to stabilize and keep markets normalized uh...and has been used many times along the way including 2008-2009 when we had these drastic downturns in the market The Plunge Protection Plan is run by It reports only to the president, these people. It's run by the head of the SEC, the head of the commodities trading group, the secretary of the treasury and the head of the Fed

2:25:50 And they have an unlimited, and they work with banks. Typically it has been in the past JP Morgan, Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs... ...and they execute orders on all exchanges when they feel that market is not behaving as it might. Wait a minute! I want to understand what that means? Are they market makers or does he mean that just trading when it says execute? Does he mean the clearing, or what exactly means you're buying stock. Okay. They would like it to behave and in the past It really has been an insulator against major downturns taking more of an effect than might be helpful both politically and economically

2:26:33 We have seen the most extraordinary. I'm sorry you don't have a chart, I should've sent you one The most extraordinary lack of volatility in the VIX since Trump has been in office And it's interesting because the night he was elected You may recall that the futures came down about four or six hundred points. You may recall by the next morning they were even again and that To me, watching this plunge protection plan for the last 10 years in effect would... I was pretty certain that that's what happened. Whoa!

2:27:13 Yeah, it does explain it. I mean we watched this Trump get elected and they were talking about it and we had clips constantly saying oh the market's crashing this is what you did! They were all doomed because you elected Trump! The markets crashing... Hold on hold on Does this logically mean that the stock market success cannot be attributed to President Trump, but to the plunge protection team? Well that's a big question. I would say maybe possibly but... But the plunge protection teams only supposed to go into play like during that was what it would have been a crash after the Trump election was brought back to normal and once there is as established i think what the investors did where they said

2:28:00 Good because this crash well This is a great club to be in you buy on the dip and then the whole the whole what? That's actually what they talk about. They say, why don't we just buy on the dips if this is going on? Yeah and then I'm gonna ask my buddy Jack Ponte he'll know all...I'll have more on this because he's a trader He'll tell me what's going on but so you buy on the dip and then uh They certainly will do some you know bull sweepers or something to get it up a little bit And then when sentiment takes over and i'm sure the You know government spokesholes whoever else anyone who's involved in this

2:28:38 in this scheme, they'll start hyping and everyone's great. And then they roll it up and then oh wow look at this boom sell perfect or just drip drip sell another which was in the second clip which you played first was mentioned which concerns me more than anything else is that the banks being in on yes yeah are given protection well let's allow us now which allows them to be lax in their operations. We just went to the bank yesterday, to get a check endorsed an insurance check for some damage from this is still this is still from your roof?

CHAPTER 37 / 44 Discussion

Banking Inefficiency and Automatic Check Processing

A personal anecdote about the difficulty of getting an insurance check endorsed at Wells Fargo leads to a critique of modern banking. The hosts compare the wasteful mailing practices of large banks like Chase to the efficient consolidated check packets sent by smaller credit unions.

wells fargo· chase manhattan· banking· checks· postal service

2:29:14 Well the second check was just sent and it was we had to go, it was an hour To get Wells Fargo to stamp their little stamp on there and sign it. The documents had to be signed for this check We either hold them You have to indemnify the bank in case we sued him because of checking guy Just a million things and this guy was on the phone talking to this group and then that group. This is to endorse a check, this happens every day! Every check that's ever sent out from State Farm has got the bank's name on it and you have to go to the bank and have this endorsed. It shouldn't take an hour of some banker's time and everybody else's time to do this. These banks are just sloppy as Wells Fargo by the way they stink they're very inefficient I could tell you another story

2:30:03 which I will apparently, we get a lot of checks. We encourage people to send checks to KnowAgenda. Yeah it has no cost to it. Right so you can go your bank or you can go to your online banking or you can payelectronic.com and do a lot of different things. You can go to your credit union there's a lot of ways the bank sends us automatic checks so we get a pile of checks automatically every month And they come in about four forms. There's the loan check in a little crazy thing you got to tear apart very carefully and there is a check inside, then those are one at a time that cost you X amount of money just to mail then there's the one check in an envelope from Chase Manhattan as the worst offender One check in an envelope

2:30:49 And then another one check in an envelope, then another one check in an envelope. Not like 10 checks in an envelop to the same address but 1-1-1-1 each costing 50 cents or 45 cents whatever it is that they pay and then you have these credit unions very small banks little institutions and all a bunch of them that go through some service in North Carolina where you get a packet of checks. Which makes sense. From all these different banks, yeah in one envelope paying one fee to the post office. Of course that would never arrive at my house since they don't have my address. I do not exist! But it goes to the post office box. Box 339 El Cerrito California 94530 for anybody who wants to mail checks

2:31:32 I look at these banks, they're all small little banks and credit unions and people that have some sense. Then i look at the one check in the envelope from Chase who's part of this system... They don't care! They're just throwing money away These banks are really screwed up Back to the clip. Hello? Does it end right there? No, I stopped it because you were going to explain that little bit. No no you didn't play the... Oh sorry. ...volatility in this market but there's amazing volatility in the political and potentially economic cycle and if your... Yeah so he says a note there's a lot of volatility but the markets going up

CHAPTER 38 / 44 Discussion

Dark Pools and High-Frequency Trading

The discussion on market manipulation continues with an explanation of "Dark Pools." These private exchanges allow large institutional trades to occur away from public view, affecting stock prices without immediate transparency. The hosts argue that these systems, combined with the Plunge Protection Team, create an uneven playing field for average investors.

dark pools· computer trading· liquidity· market manipulation· asher edelman

2:32:41 Ordinarily saying it's not a lot of volatility because the VIX is really low and the market is pretty stable. It's not like flatting around. So if the VIX, so the VIX is an average and they're looking at an average of volatility? Well, the VIX actually has a sentiment marker about this. About volatility And its way low I mean If anybody wants to go long on the VIX there's a mechanism to do so and there are few. Its like just sit and duck to make money seems to me. I could be wrong and I'm not giving anyone advice now What he said right there was what he said about the volatility, potential volatility of the economics and cycle and what's going on. He's talking about the bond crash.

2:33:22 We're seeing there's a potential mess going on and nobody seems to be caring about, at least looking at the markets. We see the potential out there that half of the country is cities in particular are broke bankrupt and they have unfunded liabilities which now have to be reported starting this month and you got one year to catch up. That is a huge problem that should be shaking things up. It's not doing anything, that's his point. Watcher you'll see every time the market declines 100 200 points sort of by the end of the day there are certain Dow stocks or S&P stocks that are less liquid ones that kind of get some backing and By the end of the day maybe it's down 20 bucks or its up $3 and its very odd

2:34:07 kind of action and I think you see it almost every day in the market. And I wonder if this market is being manipulated by the Plunge Protection Group. What? I'm shocked! I think we all have so many questions here, I don't even know where to begin. Okay so is- You always know where to begin. Is the plunge- They're shocked... The Plunge Protection Team which I initially heard as the Presidential Plunge Protection Team, I heard about this during W Bush era and these people are like oh I've got so many questions I've never heard of this. I can't believe that. Well what they're, I think it's happening it that its always been around

2:34:46 Yeah, but it's being used more as a manipulation tool. Okay so is the plunge protection team politically motivated and if so what was the purpose of the plunge protection team going in at the night that Trump was elected because he wasn't sworn into office yet? Well I mean you certainly if you have a market down four to six hundred points and people wake up to it You certainly can have somewhat of a catastrophe after that. So the purpose, whether it was an Obama or any other decent government in power was to make sure you didn't destroy the United States marketplace just because Trump was elected

2:35:27 Do you think this team is putting a floor in the markets? I mean, do you think that they're active on a fairly regular basis or is it just steep drawdowns in which they will step in. You know, I'm not a trader anymore but I watched the market for maybe 40 years pretty carefully and uh... I would say that tape reflects an urge to keep things cool and looking good And I don't think that comes from nowhere. You can't hire Goldman Sachs to do that, you need taxpayer money. So I'm curious... The Trench Protection Team president's working group has been used to stabilize the market it sounds to me like That was the purpose right? But it sounds to me you're saying there is a marked change here and are we looking at something where they are more aggressively buying the market to Donald Trump himself has said he uses the stock market as his scorecard so if its going

2:36:16 up is it more aggressive now pushing it higher as kind of a feedback loop for him? I would say that it acts more as an insulator when it tends to go down. It's the perfect storm, its perfect for these guys because you can this is oh my god you can put money on this this is so good! Now we could make a fund that follows the principles of the plunge protection plan which Whenever the president does anything, you just get ready. You help short and everyone's worried so shorters will be... It's beautiful! It's just beautiful then when you get towards the bottom then you just reverse it. Just flip it all and then you make a ton of money

2:37:04 And no wonder this is what a great racket. I think so. So it's a small percentage move that even prompts the team to go in? Well, it's not such a small percentage move and if you let it happen until the next day... So are you buyer of the market on every dip? If that is the case all your money should be right now in the stock market on every dip? No, no. And is it something that will run its course or does this last the whole four years? I don't know... Will Trump last the whole four years is the first question. Bah! But I don't really have a clue and I don't want to be in the market because I don't know when the plug gets pulled. Right. Uh, I like my art markets better. Well how can they only report to the president though who's gonna pull the plug? Who knows? I mean who knows who rebels in this group certainly the Fed is not excited about dysfunction

2:38:07 No, you do not want to put... You want to get in there on the stuff that the Plunge Protection Team is gonna prop up. I'm gonna... Let's revisit this John. I like this a lot Yeah well there ya have it Should we play that second clip now just so we have in context? Yeah might as well because then you'll round it out a little better. The Fed is not excited about dysfunction So you said, and we've all heard of this. I'm not sure! You know this is my observation. None of us are discounting anything that's been said but i'll ask you this question where these positions held and have they ever been audited? And if not is there a agency or independent group out there that should audit it? That of course what I preach It is very specific in the Reagan order that no minutes be kept and no records of transactions made public

2:39:04 I'll introduce a new term. It's called the dark pool You've heard of these. Yeah, we actually talked about one of them that was set up some time ago that people think has got loads of money and didn't... And this is computer trading and so you get a bunch of guys they put up their own little mini exchange and the trades they do

2:39:54 I'm going to say, I may not have this exactly right. But the trades they do do not necessarily show up as individual trades etc., they may not even clear at the same time but effectively what happens is people want to buy or sell stocks and they can't because those buys and sells are being taken away into this dark pool, into another exchange and the price will just change and you can't see why. And this happens every single day across the board on all stocks anything that's traded really is it happens in dark pools and I think that's where this would be taking place and that's the club we want to get invited too obviously

CHAPTER 39 / 44 Discussion

Kabul Truck Bombing and Afghanistan Deterioration

A massive truck bomb hidden in a septic tank cleaner detonated in the diplomatic quarter of Kabul, killing at least 90 people. The blast caused significant damage to the German embassy and injured several American contractors. The hosts discuss the deteriorating security situation and the high monthly cost of the ongoing U.S. military presence in the region.

kabul· afghanistan· taliban· isis· suicide bomb

2:40:36 And guess what? We're not getting invited. The president's gonna go on TV in about four minutes, thank you War Room for informing me of that and I want to just do another piece of information which came in about 30 minutes ago You know we had this huge attack in Baghdad And I have the background around it. Yeah, I just want to get this out before the president speaks because what I hear now from our military sources... This Friday the whole 82nd Airborne Division is going to be doing live fire exercises The 25th Infantry Division in Alaska is going to be doing that at the end of this month

2:41:19 our military intel sources saying something is about to go down. We already know we have huge troop buildups in Kuwait, Kuwait City I'm thinking maybe the president goes on TV and says hey ISIS i'm gonna go kick your ass Maybe. Or just something with the Afghan thing, which is just a nightmare system costing us $3 billion dollars a month to do this exercise of futility. But the focus... I mean there were... you know, I think U.S. civilians were hurt in this and it's really not been a big topic on TV what do you have? Are you kidding?! Every television network played this big front end story. Yeah but for like 10 minutes! Lots of... This was played huge by all the networks For ten minutes And then it went right back to the head

2:42:10 No, the head was very downplayed in the mainstream media. The head was a short hit. This is Afghan rundown, this the PBS version. Okay? The situation is deteriorating day by day those were the words of one of Afghanistan's lawmakers after a huge truck bomb devastated part of Kabul today it killed at least 90 people and wounded 400 more Chief Foreign Affairs Correspondent Margaret Warner has our report A pall of black smoke, sirens wailing chaos in the streets. A gigantic suicide bomb had detonated in the highly secured heart of the Afghan capital. The tremendous force of the blast gouged out a 15-foot crater and blew out windows as far as half a mile away

2:43:04 The explosion took place the minute we sat down. After the explosion, we hurried downstairs and saw all of things damaged. Many buildings were badly destroyed." Special correspondent Jennifer Glass in Kabul who spoke to us via Skype said that the bombing came as a jolt. It's been quiet here in the Afghan capital for the last couple of weeks, almost eerily quiet. The weather has been beautiful people have been going out for picnics but the scale of this attack is really unprecedented and the worst we believe since 2001 and that is such a terrible terrible shock to people

2:43:42 The bomb, hidden in a septic tank cleaning truck rocked the diplomatic quarter at the height of the morning rush hour. Despite its fortified blast wall Germany's embassy suffered extensive damage. The bomb site was also close to the Afghan presidential palace and defense ministry. This embassy is about a mile away, yet 11 American contractors were hurt. Scores of the wounded were rushed to nearby hospitals where some told of surviving the blasts. Everything was destroyed in my location I don't know what happened there were lots of workers a lot of people were martyred all the people who are on the street were killed In Nuremberg German Chancellor Angela Merkel condemned the attack

2:44:27 It goes on. I'm just thinking, the Taliban... it was the Taliban who released the video they filmed it now you know it said that ISIS did this but is the Taliban are they not mainly in Afghanistan? Yeah, they're all in Afghanistan. So the Taliban... There's a thing called the Pakistani Taliban but it's a different group. I'm not sure who did this then and which one it is so we maybe were going to Afghanistan and finishing up there but the optics would say something in Iraq but you know who do you want? You can't do anything in Iraq I don't think No! They can't do anything anywhere We should just get out

CHAPTER 40 / 44 Discussion

Tomahawk Missile Replacement and Seven Days in May

The U.S. Navy has requested $8.5 billion to replace 66 Tomahawk cruise missiles used in recent operations. The hosts suggest the military often fires older missiles nearing their expiration dates to justify new procurement. They also reference the 50th anniversary of the political thriller "Seven Days in May."

tomahawk· navy· pentagon· seven days in may· disarmament

2:45:06 I agree with that, but we're probably going to do something. We need to throw three million...we got potholes everywhere i drive around here but yeah but wouldn't go over this spent 3 billion dollars a month in Afghanistan. I did read and were right about this Uh, the Navy... Remember the Tomahawk missiles? The- how many were they 23 or 26 or...? You don't have 59. 59 I knew I was close Yeah one of them fell over the side it was there's tried to launch 60 The Navy's request of 8.5 billion dollars to cover overseas contingency operations in fiscal 28 2018 will include funding for 66 tactical tomahawk cruise missiles to replace those launched over the last 12 months in two separate deterrence operations

2:45:51 They popped them off, because they had to. Isn't that what- No they were already expiring Yeah they were expiring There's a little rubber stamp on the side with an expiration date And so now we got... yeah Shoot blast before Best killing machine Best if shot off before Best to kill people if shot off before So they're ordering and now they're getting 6 more 66 which is 2 times 33 Exactly Hey fractal time This weekend marks the, what is it now? 50th anniversary... maybe 50th anniversary. The Seven Days in May which was the political thriller motion picture about the military-political cabal's planned takeover of United States government in reaction to the president's negotiation of a disarmament treaty with the Soviet Union just gotta be on the lookout for that stuff you never know yeah fun stuff could happen

CHAPTER 41 / 44 Discussion

Sam Houston Statue and Antifa Counter-Ops

A group claiming to be "Texas Antifa" has called for the removal of a Sam Houston statue in Houston, Texas, citing his ownership of slaves. The hosts theorize that the group might be a "false flag" or counter-intelligence operation designed to make the anti-fascist movement look ridiculous, noting Houston's historical opposition to the Confederacy.

sam houston· antifa· houston· confederacy· george soros

2:46:53 Fun, fun. Social justice warriors out in Texas and this is a... so this is good for a little history lesson as you know we have to take down all kinds of Confederate symbols because they are racist symbols and there will be no celebrating of that even though we did celebrate Memorial Day which was originally a Confederate holiday I wonder what would it be the well no one's talking about that I wonder what would be, what they're going to do about those old...they're all over the South. These Confederate graveyards. Well before we get to that- They are very picturesque by the way if you're a photographer seek out your local confederate graveyard they are very interesting Tell me about Sam Houston

2:47:40 What about Sam Hughes? I don't know that much about him. I'm not from Texas, but he's one of the founders of Texas." It's been a sight to see for nearly a century and for some it's a sight they want to see themselves next to for years to come. keep it up. Yeah, but at least one group Texas Antifa want the Sam Houston statue gone last week the group posted on its facebook page saying Texans agree that disgusting idols of America's dark days of slavery must be removed to bring internal peace to our country. The group also suggested Mayor Sylvester Turner We're back to removal of the statue because of his ethnicity and political affiliation. There's a group that is trying to remove the Sam Houston statue from Herman Park, just wanted to see if you had a response to that? A group is insinuating that you may be in favor of it. It's not even on my agenda I haven't given any thought

2:48:33 He wasn't a hardcore advocate for slavery. Yes, Sam Houston did own slaves but as a senator in the 1800s he repeatedly voted against the spread of slavery to new territories of the United States. He was also ousted as governor of Texas for refusing to align himself with the Confederacy It might alleviate some anger but it'll also create some anger on the opposite side that you're taking down a statue of a man who helped create the state and what it is today. Texas Antifa told us, It wouldn't speak to us about the statue until the rally here on June 10th when we pressed further A representative responded by saying We don't speak with the fascist media Well I'l tell ya this much

2:49:19 You have to go to the Sam Houston wiki page and I think they should take a statue down. Just check out this bow tie. Oh, wait a minute! Should it be taken down because of the bow tie? Yeah anyone who... unless that bowtie he's wearing goes back in fashion. That's a beaut! It's unbelievable. That's like a scarf! And look at his eyes. He's looking all shifty over to the right what a great photo is a great photo that's fabulous You're right take that statue down Well, I don't believe he was he stands for racism from what? This is you know this may be This isn't kind of a counterterrorism methodology those developed in the 50s and 60s where you set up shop

2:50:19 As someone who's like, oh you're not...in fact you're against this whole thing that is going on. But you set up shop as an Antifa operation but your not. You're a bunch of phonies. First you wait and get your check from Soros Well Soros would actually be all for all this stuff. That's what I'm saying! This has to be money from the right, not from the left Oh okay i'm sorry...I'm listening Because it is a counterintuitive co-intelligence operation So you make a fool of yourself that's why they give away to me as the guy saying we don't talk to the fascist media Right! It's the kind of thing that you would use as a fake operation Wait so what your saying is this is bull crap to make Antifa look bad

CHAPTER 42 / 44 Discussion

Evergreen State College Protests and LARPing

The student protests at Evergreen State College are characterized as a "Live Action Role-Playing" (LARPing) exercise that has spiraled out of control. Audio clips feature students shouting at administrators about "whiteness" and demanding reparations for slavery. The hosts argue the administration's refusal to set boundaries has fueled the hysteria.

evergreen state college· larping· reparations· racial tension· whiteness

2:51:00 Exactly. Oh, nailed it! I'm sure...I think you nailed a point. Point? I give you a point Thank you. I needed that point You did especially when you need to prepare yourself for most people have probably seen this but i've watched all eight minutes and I condensed down the two The ones that were most legible. I thought we really need to listen just listen To the language used at Evergreen College This is, I mean so they're speaking to either professors or the president in this. There's no other person and there and there's equal amount of... Yes? I want to mention before you play this clip that everybody in the family —I'm talking about two evergreen grads— Jay and pretty much everybody else believed that this was a giant exercise in LARPing

2:51:50 Wow, thank you. We identified that very early on. Yes we did. Live action role-playing and when you're in your own safe space environment and everyone's playing along I think it just becomes reality the only people who weren't informed that this was a role-playing game were the professors and uh...and the president and even when they're screaming as you'll hear at the beginning of this clip there is a professor standing against the wall And this group around them is saying, and they're yelling that in her face. Yeah. Hey, you might as well say we ho-ho these racist teachers have got to go.

2:52:42 Black power! Black power! Black power! Black Power they're using now, which that would show you a little bit about the thinking here. Black Power, which was that not? And in the way the way this works as a LARPing exercise is if these idiots at their idiot administration at Evergreen actually brought the cops in and clubbed a couple of kids, it would be over instantly. Yeah that would end it! That's right or how about one of the teachers just clocks them? Yeah that wouldn't take much to stop one of these exercises No we've seen this We've seen the guy on the street and he is being stopped by Antifa And he bops one in the face Turns out its a girl But then everyone goes oh man

2:53:31 And it just walks away. We also saw this in the clips that floated around YouTube where a bunch of these idiots come into a library and start making a bunch of rackets, some kid comes and says hey! Hey! It's a library get outta here. Then they all left. Remember that one? Black power! What about our protection right now?! Fuck you and fuck the police! Why is this is the most violent fucking Whiteness is the most violent system. And this, what I've noticed is the it's very consistent the level of the voice, the shrillness of the voice they have already gone past a level of constraint? I know a lot about speaking

2:54:29 And they're at a- it's almost like Flajolet when singing. And that means you are out of control, unlike Flajolet You are out of control when you're like that They really are this is true hysteria Which is cool because its really roleplaying and then and it's really great I love that my mama don't raise no fool I think the, you know It's one thing to say white. We say white ass now, that's right now you're that's racial talk when you say white ass I mean it's just racist You know it's like black as white as saying to the president you shut the F up. Make it seem like you have to simplify for us we're not simpletons

2:55:58 We're adults, right? No. That's yeah, we're adults and now comes the slavery part You're speaking to the ancestors you see this when you speak to them you are speaking to the ancestors Right And so I'm telling you, you're speaking to your ancestors. All right? We've been here before you. We built these cities! You had civilization way before you ever had it coming out your caves. Okay? Alright, so...I just want to repeat in case you didn't hear- WE had civilization before YOU did, before you came out of your caves We built this country.

2:56:50 that my ancestors were slaves and your ancestors were not. Your ancestry came here of free choice, and decided to bring along my people, not of their own freewill, to work and build this country. Okay? And so I'm just letting you know that slavery still has re-permeated today. And that is what we're here about Those repercussions, it doesn't go away. It's not over." That seems to be the central theme is my ancestors were brought here by your ancestors they were slaves they built this country and with she says repercussions I think what she means is that she wants concession. Reparations. Reparation would be the right word thank you reparation She says repercussion but I think she means reparation Well the whole thing is like if this

CHAPTER 43 / 44 Discussion

Chelsea Clinton 2020 and the Cougar Lifestyle

Chelsea Clinton appeared on "The View" to discuss her mother's coping mechanisms following the 2016 election. The hosts mock the idea of a "Clinton and Clinton" 2020 ticket. The segment concludes with a look at a Playboy documentary series featuring the "Cougar lifestyle" and the Mile High Club.

chelsea clinton· the view· playboy· cougar· chardonnay

2:57:48 LARPing exercise by a bunch of idiots and this stupid student administrators have let it got out of control. Yeah, which is purely has then it's just like okay whatever yeah It's like no. No it's not that interesting now all right well Then let's uh let's I just got I guess I'll wrap it up done use for on this Okay one from the from my beat man from the view Can't do a show without the beat. I tried watching that the other day. No, it's very difficult Very difficult Yeah, I can do it without the machine though They had Chelsea Clinton on Chelsea Clinton brand Chelsea they really want her to run they even had bumper stickers for 2020 I'm ready for Chelsea no no Clinton and Clinton

2:58:44 What? Yeah, Clinton and Clinton. So it would be Chelsea and Hillary together. Running for what?! For president of course! Are these people that nuts!? Yep! When your mother didn't win the election you know a lot of people on my team were very upset and devastated I'm really surprised frankly You too Your mother too. I mean, I saw her commencement speech at Wellesley and she's saying you know she hit the bottle. Well that's a little Chardonnay overstatement. Little Chardonnay maybe in a lot of Charlotte thankfully

2:59:22 Yeah, a lot of times I ran this. There are ways to cope you know? I organize closets when I have a bad time or clean the refrigerator. You do that too? So how did you help your mom cope with it after this devastating loss to the country? Well you said you're not interested in running for political office but your political tweets give people hope Is there anything that would change her mind? And now she pushes the bumper sticker towards her I think, as i've said before... You made that up.

3:00:15 Alright, wrap it up for me big boy. We gotta get out of here. Wait, where does this air? Does this air on MSN and CNBC? Well it's gonna air on the Playboy channel but still got the same insulting memes. Cougar lifestyle! Or just add some fun The cougar lifestyle means you date younger guys. All across America, successful single women are embracing the cougar lifestyle. Dating young guys is just kind of about having fun We are out on the prowl to find some nice young meat

3:01:03 Cougar Club follows a group of beautiful women who are powerful, fearless and unapologetically on the prowl for younger men. Cheers to that! We're doing a Mile High Club flight The Mile High Club? The possibilities... they're endless Wow I'm watching that Playboy documentary series There's not much to recognize when you hear this is on the Playboy channel today Poor Hugh That was pretty spectacular in his ideas Oh yeah, Cougar lifestyle is the end result. Good work Hugh! Alright everybody thank you very much Let's meet again on Sunday You never know what could happen I'll certainly be making a few trips in the alternate universe travel machine with my vomit bags because it's tough It's hard to do Just dimensional travel can make you nauseous Yeah we're doing it

CHAPTER 44 / 44 Discussion

No Agenda 934 Outro and George Carlin Remix

The hosts sign off from the "Cluedio" in Austin and Silicon Valley. They remind listeners to visit the website and avoid the compromised sticker link. The episode concludes with a George Carlin audio remix and the signature "Adios, mofos!" catchphrase.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· george carlin· stay woke· adios mofos

3:02:05 Coming to you from the Cluedio here in the Commonwealth Condo, downtown Austin Texas FEMA Region 6 on all the maps if you're looking for it. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where plunge protection is a theme all around. I'm John C. Dvorak We will return on Sunday with another episode of The Best Podcast in the Universe Remember us in the meantime at dvorak.org slash NA Don't click on the no agenda stickers link And as always We'll see you Sunday. And we say adios, mofos! Stay woke my millennials! Somewhere between 97 and 99% of the scientific community... Oh dynamite I mean in the end the other side doesn't have the science Nobody thinks about consequences anymore do they? What is this about

3:03:08 Nobody thinks of consequences anymore, do they? Because if you think about that why did the New York Times run apiece with bloody clothes and dynamite. Imagine you're an informant right working abroad and you know either your information is going to be leaked Or potentially could be leaked. Do you want to sign up for that? You wanna go to that next meeting with... Oh, he's in the recruitment division! Fuck me Nobody thinks of consequences anymore, do they? I mean in the end... The other side doesn't have the science. Somewhere between 97 and 99% of the scientific community recognizes that climate change is real. The whole scientific community recognizes climate change. Oh dynamite! This is at Wellesley College

3:04:11 Is this still all girl school I think men are now they have a couple guys in there as long as they wear the pink hat The male student, I'll call him Joe, corralled with the president of college. And uh...the protesters moved on corralled the president of the college at his office. She did not call the police, someone else called the police. Based on a claim by female student, I'll call her Hannah, they extracted someone from my safety but performed oral sex more than 20 months before.

3:05:12 I'm going to make sure that I was okay. Blackout drunk in her room, this was on this view. A large room on top of a great building. There are millions of pages... That meeting took place at the end of the day and nobody really reads it at all. The inbound testers blocked them, and because the issue of policing is so sensitive at the moment, the police had to run around and find another entrance to building... I wish more peeping mortgages on other pages of information that go through this time, and nobody really reads it at all. Peeping mortgages understood

3:05:55 that morning sensitive at the moment. The police had to run away Tucker said that pages of information go this Congress and all white guys like me so everything that was in the market is the issue. All the press has put before me as you say, you turn the issue policing is so sensitive at the moment. Everything all And like you say, sensitive at the moment. The police had to run around on his stomach, sensitive at the moment To do it, I had to do it and he'd do the best job that Monsanto could.

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3:08:37 Ready to rock

3:09:19 Rough, tough and hard to bluff Hard to bluff You can't dumb me down I got no need for coke and speed Coke and speed You can't shut me up Got no urge to binge and purge Binge and purge You can't dumb me down I interface in my database, My database is in cyberspace. I wear power ties that tell power lies, I take power naps and run victory laps! I read junk mail and eat junk food And buy junk bonds at my trash boards! I'm tireless an' I'm wireless... I'm an alpha male on fuckers! Interactive am hyperactive from time to time I'm radioactive Take it slow, I go with the flow I ride with a tie to get blinded by shit I snooze so I don't lose I keep the pedal to the metal In the rubble around the road I've been pre-washed, precooked, preheated, re-streeproomed, prepackaged, stage freestriped And back to back

3:10:20 I'm hanging in, there ain't no doubt and i'm hanging tough over and out.