Episode 928 · Thursday, 11 May 2017

Watergate II

The dismissal of James Comey triggers a media spectacle as global tensions rise from the poppy fields of Afghanistan to the barracks of the German military.

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About this episode

President Donald Trump fired FBI Director James Comey, sparking a media firestorm and conflicting reactions from political commentators. While CNN analyst Jeffrey Toobin characterized the Rod Rosenstein memo as a pretext to stall the Russia investigation, former Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli argued the FBI operates on autopilot regardless of its leadership. The dismissal triggered live coverage of Comey’s private jet by Rachel Maddow and intense questioning of Democratic consistency by figures like Maxine Waters.

Secondary developments include the return of Afghan warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar to Kabul, which prompted a look into the historical ties between intelligence agencies and the global opium trade. In South Korea, the election of Moon Jae-in signaled a shift toward a less confrontational approach with Pyongyang. Meanwhile, German authorities arrested a military lieutenant for allegedly impersonating a refugee to frame immigrants for a planned terror attack. Domestic issues also surfaced as FCC Chairman Ajit Pai proposed rolling back Title II net neutrality regulations, leading to a flood of automated comments and a debate over the efficiency of current network engineering models.

Distinctive moments include a technical crisis where the show’s primary domain expired during the live recording due to a declined credit card, forcing Adam Curry into a frantic PayPal renewal. The hosts also analyze the hypnotic structure of John Oliver’s comedy and conduct a formal knighting ceremony for Sir Kevin of Derbyshire and Sir Peter Boekelman.


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CHAPTER 01 / 37 Discussion

Windows 10 Creators Update, Privacy Settings and Advertising

Microsoft released the Windows 10 Creators Update, prompting users to review new privacy defaults. Analysis of the update reveals that location services and advertising IDs are toggled on by default, while diagnostic data sharing cannot be fully disabled. The system uses an advertising ID to track app usage for "relevant ads," a feature that remains active even if users opt out of personalization.

windows 10· microsoft· privacy settings· creators update· advertising id· diagnostics

00:00 When there's blood on the moon, death lurks in the shadows. It was a western. Adam Curry John C. Dvorak It's Thursday May 11th 2017 and this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 9028 This is no agenda reading through pink slips so you don't have to and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet here in the capital grown star state in the clu-clu-dio of the common law condo. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry! And from northern Silicon Valley where there's no time like the present...I'm John C. Dvorak. So I turned on the machine. Which machine? Oh, your podcast machine? The podcasting machine yeah. Windows 10! A big sign comes up...Windows 10! Oh Windows 10! New windows features are almost here oh they're almost here what does that mean are they on they be shipping them i don't know it just says they're almost here we're preparing a new update for your machine they just updated it today great new features are coming with this updates such as paint 3d

01:07 Waiting for that mmm more inking capabilities and 4k gaming For K gaming, and then says we've heard your feedback. I haven't written them with Windows 10 creators update We have more control over your privacy sentiment says let's get started by reviewing your privacy settings And this is a button says review settings. I'm gonna push it boom oh No, no you might not want to do this on the show this it could be dangerous You're worried sick So these I would, I wanted to push because i want to see what the defaults were because they have them all laid out here and here's what the defaults are. Okay. Mmkay? One two three four five of them. Now first of all... These are default for what for Windows 10 Yeah now is this going to be helpful for anyone else in the world yeah okay cuz I'm gonna tell you what to do ah here we go number one location turn to on it's on oh that's a default

02:04 Yeah, it's defaulted to on so they're just spying on you whatever that no. That's to improve your experience yeah It says it helps to improve location services So you go to it and you go off oh now? It's off okay Beach recognition is off yeah because otherwise your microphone is on the whole time Yeah, it's okay. So that's good. That's a good thing Diagnostics help us find and improve Windows services and products send diagnostic data including browser Browser history and and all dick pics Okay It says full click

02:43 Basic. It won't even turn it off! Basic? Yeah, now it's from basic to full. In other words they're stealing certain data. Oh so you can't even turn it all the way off you can only send a basic or the dick pics one of the two uh number four tailored experiences with diagnostics data again tailored experience and more relevant tips and recommendations to tailor microsoft products and services to your needs and can you turn that off use your data to make this work It's that defaulted to on, you click off. Okay good off. Good man, good man. Last relevant ads Oh yes of course I want relevant ads! I like shopping can this be a part of my experience? Ads advertising ID to make ads more interesting to you based on your app usage That's not the same as more relevant

03:37 No, it's not the same at all and is so defaulted to- But wait a- whoa whoa whoa! Is this only for your browsing or does Microsoft just have ads pop up in their system? Here let me set my screensaver. And you get an ad System wide Relevant ads turn it off Now it says, the number of ads you see won't change but in other words your an idiot. The number of ads won't change... But does it say where these ads will... But they may be less relevant to YOU!

04:14 I don't know where these go. I'm just gonna hit accept and kill all that stuff, boom." Less relevant to you... If i have to reboot? No. Oh it says thank you we'll handle the update from here! Don't worry about it we got you covered browser. Okay John great that was a great lesson in why I have a Mac. This is why I have a mac Yeah, I have it all on permanent. They got all that crap in there of course they do but not the advertising stuff They tried that they failed they tried that in iOS They tried to sell what remember that Apple ads or whatever yeah? We have the inventory no you don't Anyway well this looks like some news this week. Yeah was kind of guy was kind of fun really This is a

CHAPTER 02 / 37 Discussion

James Comey Firing, Media Reaction and Late Night Comedy

President Donald Trump fired FBI Director James Comey, triggering a massive media cycle and conflicting reactions from political commentators. Late-night hosts like Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart addressed the audience's confusion regarding whether to celebrate or mourn the dismissal of a director previously criticized by Democrats. The event highlighted the role of comedians in shaping political messaging for specific audience demographics.

james comey· fbi· donald trump· stephen colbert· jon stewart· jimmy kimmel

05:05 I didn't expect this one. I liked it. We're talking about comedy. I was very disappointed by the fact that it so overtook the news cycle that you had to really go overseas to get anything other than just, don't be coming, call me, call me... No kidding! And then it was and it was really, to me It was just fun to watch them the meltdowns of people freaking out. I mean CNN was, it was, I mean, it was just pure entertainment to watch Really beautiful I'm sure you didn't watch any of it. I watched quite a bit of it Oh, you watched CNN? Because I couldn't get around and I had a lot of the stuff set to pre-record Ah okay So ended up with a bunch of stuff that I didn't want Well can I give you just a couple things here because what happened here now we're talking about FBI Director Comey being fired What was so fabulous to watch is the Dimension A people really hated Comey for making Hillary lose And then when he got fired

06:06 Everyone went, you... yay! What? Yeah. You got your dimensions mixed up again. B I mean b yes be B for bot A for Adam. I remember now so B everyone would yeah he's fine well wait good no Wait could someone please tell us tell us what to do and how to feel that's really what happened people were had To be told how to feel about this And this was witnessed nowhere better really than Stephen Colbert. I'm not going to play the clip that has been out there just on and on and people, oh look! That's where Stephen Colbert said FBI director got fired. The whole audience goes yay!! And then he's like wait don't you hate him? Don't you understand why he's not... Come on would you know?! He's investigating Trump or Putin! Then everyone goes Oh yeah that's right boo!!!

06:59 But it really took the oracle had to come in. That's right, Jon Stewart had to come in to tell everybody how stupid they really are. Do you know that James Comey was fired by Trump? Right? I got a question for the audience when I said that Comey been fired by Trump y'all cheered why is because what he did to Hillary He's investigating Trumps campaigns ties to Russia. Well now will evaporate like cotton candy in the ocean. You know what you got? That was like a beginner surfers class when they were like I'm standing up no wait

07:44 Because it was. I hate that guy, but Trump did it and they didn't know how to feel and it was interesting to watch. Well listen you live on a farm now okay? So there is is! It's interesting to see people do everything wrong this isn't how it works! And its just great to see late night comedians are controlling the messaging for Dimension B. It is! Jimmy Kimmel with the American Health Care Act, he's controlling the messaging and referenced as such? Yeah I mean it's just beautiful but anyway so this news came through and Jeffrey Toobin on CNN who is a constitutional lawyer I think

CHAPTER 03 / 37 Discussion

Rod Rosenstein Memo, FBI Independence and Jeffrey Toobin

CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin criticized the Rod Rosenstein memo, arguing that the stated reasons for James Comey's firing were a pretext to stall the Russia investigation. Former Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli countered that the FBI operates on "automatic pilot" through career professionals regardless of the director's status. The debate centered on whether a new director would act as a political stooge for the White House.

rod rosenstein· jeffrey toobin· fbi· ken cuccinelli· department of justice

08:25 We've discussed this in the past. I think he is a... well, every lawyer should be constitutional lawyer but he just lost his mind! Can we point out that the Emperor is not wearing any clothes? Wow how many times have you heard that in the past two years?! Do kids even read The Emperor Has No Clothes Anymore? Just the reference is lost. I was curious about that, this reference... Like the Midas references are lost too Of the Midas touch? Yeah Well that was lost even in my youth but this Emperor has no clothes. Yeah, I don't think kids know what this means anymore And I don't think the books well we should check that this memo from Rod Rosenstein is it says that? James Comey was fired for being too mean to Hillary Clinton does anyone believe that oh

09:14 Could anyone believe that? I mean, it's just absurd. Suddenly here it is in May of 2017... Factually thats not what the Rosenstein memo says It doesn't say he works for me No it doesn't say that at all What's he talking about That his interpretation He's a lawyer You can question the constitution In May of 2017, that he's being fired for a press conference that he held in July 2016? No. I mean, this is just the most preposterous pretext. This is an investigator who is investigating the White House and he was just fired by the White House. This doesn't happen in the United States except on October 20th 1973 when Richard Nixon filed Archibald Cox

10:07 And if anyone thinks that a new FBI director is going to come in and the agency will just take over and continue their investigation as if this had never happened, that's not how it works. They will put in a stooge who will shut down this investigation. This is my favorite part! So already he has made up his mind that it was because Comey was mean to Clinton whereas The letter very specifically states that he did things that are expressly forbidden by the FBI protocol. And there's something hidden in there which is not discussed, which we'll get to in a moment. They are in charge! The poli- And now it's like oh well of course he'll put a stooge in! He will put a stooge in! A STOOGE! Political people are in charge of the FBI Not the street agents The street agents do what they're told and now Donald Trump will put in maybe Chris Christie Someone who will do his bidding

11:04 That's the part I love. That would be great, but by the way he does know of course that the investigation of the Russian connection is being handled by Comey as a second guy to deputy. Yeah, the second in command who was... He's the guy doing it and so he's not Comey. Comey is a bureaucrat, he's a technocrat, he's a manager, he doesn't do investigations, he's not an FBI agent No, that's okay. Well I'm gonna top that. I have a follow-up then you can top me You know how I love being bottomed listen to bin now in the same conversation With a Trump stooge I think former Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli who have never seen before on CNN Do you know this guy?

11:53 No. I've heard of him actually. Well he seems like a Trump operative and he argues exactly that about the FBI It just shows that he knows he's under investigation yet he is firing this guy anyway it's not normal and its not American Yeah, I disagree. I'm completely on the other side of the coin here we have an investigation that is proceeding everything that happens in this investigation tomorrow is going to be the same in spite of the removal of the director of the FBI because the professionals who handle this day-to-day are going to keep handling it day today they're not gonna all go into their office and start sucking their thumb oh come on it's ridiculous yeah this doesn't stop anything all the

12:38 All the grand jury subpoenas go out. The work and pursuit of those will continue just as it has before So why is there a head of the FBI if that guy doesn't matter at all? They just sort operate on automatic pilot? The whole agency operates day to day a whole set of career professionals who carry these investigations and are responsible for them day to day. Who tells them what to investigate? You know, once in awhile one of them die. And they replace it- How does that guy ever work at the company in his life?! Wait did you hear that last bit? That's funny because Tubin's face was fantastic. Investigations and are responsible for them day to day. Who tells him what to investigate? Once in awhile one of them die...and they replace them! And low and behold the investigation goes on.

13:21 Someone dies it was beautiful to watch just heads exploding. Yes Let's go let's give me the Maxine waters jingle Oh my good well, you're gonna You know usurp them I have the jingle I have the same clip obviously and now you're gonna think that by slipping it in now You're gonna top me whereas I have the exact same clip That's first come first serve bull crap Maxine Waters, keep on trolling California shills won't you keep on whining with me?

CHAPTER 04 / 37 Discussion

Maxine Waters, MSNBC Interview and Comey Credibility

Congresswoman Maxine Waters faced a challenging interview on MSNBC regarding her past criticisms of James Comey. Despite previously stating Comey had no credibility, Waters argued against his firing by President Trump, citing the ongoing investigation into Russian election interference. The exchange highlighted logical inconsistencies in the Democratic platform regarding the FBI leadership transition.

maxine waters· msnbc· james comey· fbi· russia investigation

14:14 No, it's classified and we can't tell you anything. All I can tell you is the FBI director has no credibility That was Congresswoman Maxine Waters criticizing now former FBI Director James Comey after a closed briefing on Russia's interference in the US election. It took place just one week before the president took office here at the White House for more I want to bring in the congresswoman herself Maxine Waters who is joining me now Congresswoman we appreciate your time you obviously have been very critical of James Comey in the past, you said that he had no credibility I assume that you support the president's decision then to fire his FBI director. And you might want to mention this was on MSNBC, I was totally stunned by it but the guy was relentless at ridiculing her. I loved it! No, I do not necessarily support the President's decision if the President had not gone all

15:08 over the country praising him about the way he handled Hillary and the emails. If the president said, you had confidence in him if the president had not said it was a part of his team but Congresswoman I understand that in the past he was praising him but if you say that FBI director James Comey has no credibility wouldn't you support the fact to the President then then can Trump make decisions to get rid of them? No! Not necessarily and let me tell you why You have an investigation going on where the president is implicated. And this is a serious investigation I've been trying to get people to focus on this connection with the Kremlin and with Putin, I have a resolution that I introduced in February

15:53 I think there's enough there that we know about the Kremlin and about Putin to be concerned about whether or not there was collusion. So, to be clear you think... And I believe that they should have to connect the dots and get the facts because I think it will lead to the impeachment of this president. So Congresswoman respecting that, to be clear you believe it would have been better to keep in place an FBI director who you said had no credibility to oversee this investigation than define someone who you think would be a better choice? No but I believe the President thought that don't forget! You're talking about what some Democrats said when I said but

16:30 Don't forget, he was the president. The president supported him. He had confidence in him within his power. You said you had no credibility so it would seem to make sense that he should get reelected? No! Under investigation this president basically has interfered with an investigation where he may be implicated. That's outrageous and that's why we're having so much of a conversation about it today everybody is talking about it because this is highly unusual the bottom line is that you think an FBI director without credibility would have been best served in this position to try to pursue this investigation? I think if the president had fired him when he first came

17:14 He would not have to be in a position now where he's trying to make up a story about why. It does not meet the smell test. The smell test! Wait, watch out her head is exploding! My millennials stay woke! That's pieces of her head I think that she...I don't think she even knows that she is being ridiculed. I think it's racist. I think MSNBC is racist Well, yeah that's possible. Hey! You're black and you must be stupid

17:53 Yeah, that's kind of what I'm saying. She is a sucker to come out camera time she's a camera. She's a media whore she'll come on and at the drop of a hat doesn't get invited on enough as far as she's concerned and then say whatever she's gonna say in this it's all convoluted she's never been you know that The brightest bulb it in the Congress And her head is gone yeah, but she thinks that she's gonna be good You know president or has a shot at it? Oh yeah, of course See, I'm going to give us a shared clip of the day for that because we both know... Come on. We can do it. It was too beautiful! Too beautiful. He's very funny. What is your bonus? The bonuses are they goes on a little bit longer but there is another he does it again and he pulls this quick one and together show that her logic isn't she has no logic Understood so if Hillary Clinton had won the White House would you have recommended that she fire FBI Director James Comey

18:51 Well, let me tell you something. If she had won the White House I believe that given what he did to her and what he tried to do she should have fired him yes So she should have fired him but he shouldn't have fired him this is why i'm confused No it's no... You're not confused! No you're not confused! Uh yeah we are kind of yeah Just a little bit We're not racist Well, we're ready for her presidency that's right by the way there is two firings who've been fired twice on yes I know it's good. No III do have one little clip that I think is kind of meaningful as backgrounder besides the backgrounders themselves

CHAPTER 05 / 37 Discussion

PBS NewsHour, White House Defense and Congressional Reaction

PBS NewsHour reported on the White House's official justification for firing James Comey, featuring statements from Vice President Mike Pence and Sarah Huckabee Sanders. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell dismissed calls for a special counsel as counterproductive, while Minority Leader Chuck Schumer questioned the timing of the dismissal. The report emphasized the breakdown of public trust in the FBI following the 2016 election.

pbs newshour· mike pence· mitch mcconnell· chuck schumer· sarah huckabee sanders

19:49 And this is the one from PBS. This is, uh... Tim Cain's also pretty funny I don't- hopefully The problem is there are too many clips about Comey and it's Yeah but there's- I have some- I got some new shit that has come to light bro Yeah I know I expect you to do something like that Overview rundown Comey PBS? Is that the one your looking for? This is the ru- well actually we might as well play That's the Rundown and then I can find the rest of it Since this is only that was by the way that Judy Smackin or licking nice edit. I like it It's a Tourette's thing Let me see if I can make it work

20:32 Since this is only the second time a US president has fired the head of the FBI, The initial shockwaves from Mr. Trump's stunning move left awake questions and condemnations from across the political spectrum William Brangham begins with where we are now and how we got here He wasn't doing a good job, very simply. He was not doing a good job." That was it—President Trump's verdict this morning over his firing of FBI Director James Comey. The president's termination letter to Comey yesterday said the move was necessary to restore public trust in the agency. An attachment from Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein faulted Comey's handling of the Hillary Clinton email investigation.

21:17 White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders gave more detail today. Frankly, he'd been considering letting Director Comey go since the day he was elected I think that Director Comey has shown over the last several months and frankly the last year a lot of missteps and mistakes In a tweet this morning The President said Comey lost the confidence of almost everyone in Washington Republican and Democrat alike When things calm down they will be thanking me But little was calm on the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue today. Vice President Mike Pence was on Capitol Hill and offered a longer defense of the president's decision.

22:03 move Director Comey. That's why this was the right decision at the right time." Meanwhile, Senators face non-stop questions about what Comey's firing means for the ongoing probes into Russia's meddling in the election and whether the Trump campaign colluded in that meddling Democrats said the firing would lead Americans to suspect a cover up and they repeated calls for a special counsel but Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said that would be counterproductive Today will no doubt hear calls for a new investigation which could only serve to impede the current work being done to not only discover

22:41 what the Russians may have done. Also to let this body in the national security community develop countermeasures. Minority leader Chuck Schumer questioned the president's timing Why did it happen last night? We know Director Comey was leading an investigation and whether the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians a serious offense Oh, so very serious Did you find... I do want to mention one thing which is that This is payback for the Clinton special prosecutor, Kevin Starr. I'm glad you brought that up it's a little bit out of sequence

CHAPTER 06 / 37 Discussion

Special Prosecutors, J. Edgar Hoover and FBI Term Limits

The historical context of the 10-year FBI director term limit is examined, refuting the claim that it was designed for "integrity." Instead, the limit was established to prevent a repeat of J. Edgar Hoover's era of political blackmail. Comparisons are drawn between current events and the Watergate era, while noting that former Director Robert Mueller's term was uniquely extended by the Obama administration.

j. edgar hoover· robert mueller· aspen institute· special prosecutor· watergate

23:18 But it's just payback because, which led to a witch hunt. Which led to the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Which lead to the impeachment and had nothing to do with what they were looking at which was whitewater I believe and some other crazy stuff. And cattle futures. And you know that these things The guy's got the job as special prosecutor and he just wants to build up his budget and keep his job so that it becomes a witch hunt. And that's what they're trying to do here, which is nonsense- It's not like we haven't been predicting this for a couple months. Right? No, it's not like... Which is exactly what we've been predicting. Now the clip I wanted to get in here before we went any further is this particular clip because it does bring out an issue that I think is floating around

24:06 kind of as a subtext. This is the DW's subtake on Comey Aspen guy. Explain a decision that had to call the Demoff guard, but we have to remind people it is within the president's authority to fire the FBI director isn't it? According to law that is the case but the norms have been set over frankly over a century now and the first director of the FBI J. Edgar Hoover, who was there for a long time, notoriously had a very difficult relationship with several presidents. That's right. The director position is a 10-year term position and the reason it's established that way is to maintain the integrity and independence of the FBI as a law enforcement agency. And... Okay? No no that's bullcrap!

24:51 The 10 years was not to maintain any sort of integrity. The 10 years was to limit the term. Exactly, and... They extended Mueller for an extra year and a half. And he mentions the firing is legal because it is, so okay there's no illegal activity here. And then he mentions J Edgar Hoover as an example of presidents who didn't like him. He was blackmailing everybody! Yes he was. J Edgar Hoover was a blackmailer The FBI does not have a very clean record And so the 10-year thing was put in place to prevent another blackmailer from coming in and staying too long. What's scary about Mueller is he was the guy that came in just a few months before 9 11, obviously knew something and therefore was extended through Obama if I'm not mistaken

25:43 Yeah, he got extended and so that's so the idea of the ten years for some consist That's bullcrap. That is total bull crap and this guy's the eight this guy This isn't Deutsche Welle. This is in Berlin this guy apparently it's out of the Aspen Institute offices in Berlin yeah There you go the Aspen Institute which is a spooky operation out of at Aspen Colorado run by the guy who wrote the Steve Jobs book Isaacson Oh, really? And the whole thing is fishy. And why this guy's like now all of a sudden an expert and then defending the FBI J Edgar Hoover that this is kind of bullshit thing that people need to be reminded of. The 10 years was not to maintain anything it was to prevent something from happening again

CHAPTER 07 / 37 Discussion

Rachel Maddow, Live Coverage of Comey's Plane

MSNBC host Rachel Maddow provided live narration of James Comey's private Gulfstream jet taxiing at a Los Angeles airport following his dismissal. The coverage compared the visual spectacle to the O.J. Simpson chase, emphasizing the "unscripted" nature of the event. Maddow also discussed the historical precedent of Bill Clinton firing William Sessions in 1993.

rachel maddow· msnbc· james comey· los angeles· gulfstream

26:28 And this has sparked a whole bunch of reaction, a lot of comparisons to Watergate. You know just pulling in everything possible Bernstein of Woodward and Bernstein as we know he is He's now making money through CNN and apparently some agency. Let's get to basics, and that is that this is a terribly dangerous moment in American history The President of the United States has repeatedly made clear he does not want a legitimate investigation into the possible collusion of his aides and campaign with a hostile power. This is unprecedented in our history, A president who himself has attempted to impede the legitimate investigation of essentially looking into whether or not people around him and perhaps himself have colluded in some way with the enemy

27:25 With the enemy. I heard a lot on MSNBC, you know... We were attacked by Russia! They struck us! We were attacked! Attacked! And Rachel Maddow could not find any... Well Pelosi said that it was an act of war. She tried to say is this an act of war? Yes! Rachel Maddow was so beside herself with glee She said it was unprecedented and then of course she had a whole bunch of examples of precedents which was funny. We've been seeing live images of a plane sitting on a tarmac This was great, this is like OJ almost So they have a helicopter shot Of Comey's Gulfstream Agency Gulfstream whoever it is

28:06 Taxiing down the taxiway to line up and to take off. And Rachel Maddow was narrating it! Now moving down a taxi way in Los Angeles, this is a private plane of some kind It's not unusual for federal agencies especially big ones like the Department of Justice or the FBI To have private planes at their disposal Director Comey was in Los Angeles for I think what was supposed to be recruiting event to

28:49 effective immediately so right now he is no longer the director of the FBI. But he's still in that private plane! We believe that Director Comey is on that plane which is now taxiing down the runway, um, in Los Angeles presumably they'll be flying back to the East Coast. Presumably FBI headquarters are in Washington and will be heading back to Washington Oh man she's doing a whole travel itinerary this is riveting but all of this is unscripted at this point. It's unscripted! It's unscripted, John? Oh it's crazy because everything should be scripted in government. Heading back to Washington but all of this is unscripted at this point all of this is unprecedented there are historical parallels to what happened today but there has never been anything like this before There was one instance previously in US history which an FBI director has been fired by a U.S president

29:41 That was a very different circumstance. It was President Bill Clinton at the time, the FBI director who was fired. Did she even circumvent the whole Nixon thing? It's very interesting! in effect, abuse of office concerns that had been documented against him by the Department of Justice. Things like using a Department of Justice aircraft to fly to see his family." Now you see this is just confusing so many things completely unhinged I think is the term we'd like to use. Unhinged! Unhinged now here is something really nice that I picked up let me see if I have this here

CHAPTER 08 / 37 Discussion

Kellyanne Conway, Chris Cuomo and Huma Abedin Emails

Kellyanne Conway appeared on CNN with Chris Cuomo, suggesting that James Comey was fired partly because he forced the FBI to correct sworn testimony regarding Huma Abedin's emails. Conway claimed Comey had inaccurately stated that Abedin forwarded "hundreds of thousands" of emails to Anthony Weiner. The discussion touched on internal FBI friction in the New York field office and Comey's past ties to HSBC.

kellyanne conway· chris cuomo· huma abedin· fbi· cnn

30:22 Kellyanne Conway came on with the Cuomo kid on CNN and Cuomo, you know it's just raking her over the coals. Of course fun to do I thought she was persona non grata Oh But now if we get to pull her apart as fun but what happened because I decided I want cuz she started say something about About how the news business worked and having videos go viral so like oh I got a listening She often lets things slip That I think she doesn't mean to and there was one small news story that came out Just before the firing after the last show in between the last show and the firing There was this little little new story that Comey had directed the FBI to go back and change The record of his statement To Senate or Congress

31:13 I don't remember who he was talking to, where he said, oh no you know Huma Abedin. No poor intent there too uh... You know the hundreds of thousands of emails or thousands i think is what he said emails that were sent to Anthony Weiner. Uh..you know that was just a mistake and apparently that information was factually incorrect And this is what no one is talking about, but Kellyanne lets a slip in this interview. Look what I want is the truth that's all we should all want here and the idea that you should know the fruit of the investigation these many months in is naive and deceptive people who have been around these investigations will take you tell you they take time those who are doing it on the Senate and House side say they take time You've been misrepresenting The White House What James Clapper

32:00 You see she's talking about, and I couldn't figure out what she was saying. So this is why i started to listen to her. You've been misrepresenting the White House with what James Clapper said when he had seen no collusion of proof? Can you stop for a second? Yeah of course Does she get a word in ever or is just going to put somebody on the screen and start yelling at him a of

32:49 for this to be a hoax. I get it and that's why Comey being ousted just when that is heating up, not back when he started his tenure he didn't need anybody to tell him that Comey had been divisive within the agency He knew all that. You want me to ask the questions? Because you're giving all the answers. Kellyanne, I've got to check what you're saying. I gotta check what you're saying! Fact-check false! All the answers... Kellyanne, I've gotta check what you're saying. No, you're using words... I've gotta provide context for it because you are creating an image that doesn't reveal itself in fact Let me know when I can answer Knock yourself out Oh, what a dick! Knock yourself out She had an interesting comeback there Creating an image that doesn't reveal itself in fact

33:33 Let me know when I can answer. Knock yourself out! Ugh... Well, i'm gonna knock this out of the park by- I'm knocking out of the park on your ass Cuomo Alright now listen carefully Knock yourself out Well, I'm going to knock this out of the park By telling you That I'm sure it'll go viral now that she used the words naive and deceptive People think he used those words about me Although you were talking about his state of mind I'm talking about- This is interesting to me That she accuses him The whole conversation She doesn't care She accuses him of using the words naive and deceptive, and she claims that this is the new thing in the news business. Is to cut up the video so it sounds like- So that viral headline would be

34:17 Cuomo calls Kellyanne naive and deceptive, and that would go viral. And she's claiming this is the new way that news works That was interesting to me And then of course then I heard more. Use those words about me although you were talking about a state of mind I'm sure. I'm talking about this narrative coming out of the White House. That's the new thing to try to go viral But here are those of us who do want the truth Okay The idea that you think that this was about Russia and not about an FBI director who just yesterday forced his bureau to correct sworn testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee where he said Huma Abedin had this practice. She had forwarded, quote, hundreds of thousands of emails and they quote many of them- So President Trump was so upset that James Comey was unfair to Huma Abedin that he fired him? No, President Trump is...President Trump wants a FBI director who is impartial, who's not politicized

35:10 and who has the confidence and the trust of people in the Bureau, of Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill, of the Attorney General, of the Deputy Attorney General who oversees the FBI Director, and of the President of United States. And he announced that! So what I'm seeing—I think there's an internal issue. Remember it is the FBI in New York City who have the emails. It all came down with those guys, and I think Giuliani is involved in all of that And I think what happened is Comey tried to dust that away. He got called on it because he said something wrong, which he probably didn't even intend to do. But there's something about the Huma Abedin emails... Yeah, I agree with this. ...which is really not kosher and Kellyanne let that slip. There's another little tidbit you missed here. Oh, what did I miss? The guy makes—and this is part of the narrative—well, in fact Maxine Waters uses it.

36:08 If nothing's changed, why didn't he fire him when he got in office? Because he didn't have the deputy confirmed yet. Exactly because she says or he says that... Well no she says in this case that the Deputy Attorney General is the one who oversees the director of the FBI. The guy has only been an office for two weeks! Yeah but they had to wait for him to get confirmed. He was getting his feet wet and gets into office 2 weeks later and says this guy has gotta go and fires him. So why is, what is so does anybody take a look at that and say well maybe that's the reason he wasn't fired right away? No. And there's a lot of hush-hush about Uma's emails no one is talking about that but there's something big going on with those emails and it goes beyond just this stuff going on for sure I mean she lets this slip and no one else is talking about it and even Cuomo doesn't dive into it

37:03 No, he doesn't care. Now Comey I just want to reiterate that we've always been thinking what is up with this Comey guy? If we're just going to talk circumstantial evidence as everyone does please remember he was on the board of HSBC the notorious money laundering bank He was on the board to help fix...He's a fixer...to help fix this issue with HSBC And they also do all the Clinton Foundation money. Yeah, these guys are not kosher so I always thought Comey kind of knew what was going on there and he's like oh keep an eye out and I thought maybe he was on Trump side but it's possible that he was really there covering for Hillary all along

CHAPTER 09 / 37 Discussion

Afghan Warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, CIA and Opium Trade

Afghan warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar returned to Kabul and demanded the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan. This development prompted a discussion on the historical link between intelligence agencies and the drug trade, referencing the movie "American Gangster" and the Iran-Contra scandal. Speculation suggests the current U.S. opium epidemic may be tied to "black money" operations involving Afghan poppy fields.

gulbuddin hekmatyar· afghanistan· cia· opium· heroin epidemic

37:48 It's impossible to figure this out, it's a mess. Yeah it's a mess for sure but now that you but the one thing that I keep seeing over and over which is very disconcerting as especially by now is the CIA front people yeah the spokesholes mostly in the media that are somehow not necessarily working for them on on the payroll basis many maybe maybe its consultants or there are some how they're connected and they're all in a row saying the same thing, which leads me to believe there's something really wrong at the CIA because they're trying to keep... Because what they don't want is Trump put a new person in there. But there must be something big going on there that they try and get stopped cover up or something it may have to do with an un I don't know if you can find this story but look and see if you can find search for the word warlord It was a clip that we didn't play which I had

38:42 never got around to it, but then one of the major warlords in Afghanistan came out of the woodwork and is now demanding that the United States leave the country. Thousands of Afghans turned out today to hail the return a former warlord to Kabul. Gulbuddin Hekmatyar responded with a demand that US and other outside forces leave Afghanistan, he rallied the crowd with a call for peace with the Taliban and criticized the Afghan government for its cooperation with the U.S.. Let's all end this war together in our country first and tell the foreign forces that Afghans are able to sort out their issues themselves, and that we want them to leave Afghanistan. No one has any justification for the presence of foreign troops." The U.S now has about 8000 troops in Afghanistan next week. The Pentagon is widely expected to recommend sending more troops now

39:43 I think at this point, there's been a movie about this. About the Vietnam War and the movement of heroin into this country. Coordinated by one of the intelligence agencies that starts with a C. And then we had Iran-Contra? We had Iran-Contra, which was minor compared to what's going on now. And then we have this opium epidemic in this country? If it ever got out with some proof instead of two guys speculating based on you know well... American Gangster that was the... American Gangsters is an excellent true movie And if it got out with the epidemic that we have and all the deaths that we've been having with overdoses in this country, that the CIA was responsible for in any way shape or form because they're using it as a theoretically is their way of getting a lot of black money that they can spend on other things including controlling the media. It would be a disaster!

40:37 You're absolutely right and it is so analogous to Iran-Contra on a different scale, I agree. The CIA was selling drugs the way they did it is they created crack cocaine sold mainly to poor neighborhoods Gary Webb got killed over this you know that was 35 40 years ago It'll take 35 or 40 years and then we'll learn hey remember the big heroin epidemic when kids were dropping dead? Yeah! It's the CIA bringing that shit in So they could get their funding for whatever other things they were up too Yes, ding. There was a very beautiful... and by the way I'd like to just point out that how slick we were just there a minute ago. Oh yeah no you do this too often! Never mind it's okay i take it back Condoleezza Rice was on The View

CHAPTER 10 / 37 Discussion

Condoleezza Rice, The View and Russia Hacking Claims

Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice appeared on "The View" to discuss the Trump administration's national security team. Rice defended Rex Tillerson's past business dealings in Russia as standard for an oil executive and argued against questioning the legitimacy of the 2016 election. She characterized Vladimir Putin's hacking efforts as an "eye for an eye" response to Hillary Clinton's 2012 comments on Russian elections.

condoleezza rice· the view· rex tillerson· vladimir putin· michael flynn

41:35 And you don't have to groan because it was really interesting in that she did not, and she's promoting a book. Then maybe she's promoting herself I get the goes hand-in-hand and of course this is right after Comey got fired and she's asked a series of questions and none of the answers are what The View wants to hear so they just keep asking questions and no one's like oh really? What yeah no none of that! So it kind of starts with Flynn you know, how could they have not known? We saw Polly Yates say that she told everybody don't hire this guy get rid of him he's horrible. How do you make somebody heed a warning that they may not want to hear well let me just say I've been in Washington and a lot of times... And you haven't! Oh I told them this I told them that I don't know what those conversations were really like so I'm not gonna go there right I'm just gonna tell you this

42:29 Michael Flynn is gone. Yes, and HR McMaster is as good as you can do for national security advisor And so Americans ought to be comforted wait a minute by the character of the person who's there This is one of the most decorated and best generals of his generation isn't he having trouble with Trump though right now? I'm not that I can see They may say something right. I think this is a really good national security team, look it's we have a different kind of president all right let's he's different. He never been in government before and when you haven't been in government before sometimes that looks kind of easy in there until you get in there yeah and when he said you know this job was a lot harder than I thought oh yes this is where we get a punchline

43:15 No, what an idiot. He didn't know it was going to be much harder. Ha ha ha! Nope. When he said this job's a lot harder than I thought...I actually kind of felt bad for him because it is a really hard job and- What were you feeling? She felt bad for him? We got problems here with this guest. Get rid of her! No, no we just keep asking until we can get a punchline. Felt bad for him because it is a really hard job and it's a lonely job and you want people around who you trust so they've done well Rex Tillerson is a really good Secretary of State and Jim Mattis is a great Secretary of Defense What?! And they've got some really tough problems as she was saying at the beginning when your dealing with

43:55 a North Korean leader who is, let's just say reckless. He might even be unhinged." Oh yes! Unhinged!! We gotta do that more in unison. Hold on... we got to get better at that because this word is not going away. "...is lets just say reckless he might even be unhinged..." UNHINGED!!! Come on you were late come on lets try it again. You know hold You have to, what are we going to do? A two beat. What are you gonna do just as soon as they say unhinged you're saying on top of them? One beat and I'll do two and will sync up Okay well try it. And a leader who is let's just say reckless he might even be unhinged Unhinged! Close enough

44:40 And he is getting better with nuclear weapons, he's getting longer in his ranges to perhaps one day reach the United States. I don't care who you are as president that's a scary proposition. You take it seriously? Yeah okay so oh this guest is starting to suck okay let's talk about Flynn then because we all know he's in the pocket of the Russians! Madam Secretary um... It's been alleged that weeks before For President Trump's inauguration, Flynn discussed American sanctions against Russia as well as other areas of perhaps a possible cooperation with the Russian ambassador. As someone- This by the way is not proven this is all just assertions you know that but this is not a fact by any means. Release the transcript so we can get it over with why would they do that? Because its not in there I presume. Cooperation with the Russian ambassador

45:30 As someone who has had that position as national security advisor Would you have felt comfortable at that time before the inauguration having those conversations or or is that inappropriate? Oh goody now we're gonna get him Let me make a distinction here because when you are the National Security Advisor elect in other words You're your guys been elected, but you've not yet been inaugurated. You will have conversations with foreign supporters what They want to meet you, they want to establish a relationship. The thing you shouldn't do is talk about policy and suggest that you might be changing the policy of the administration because there's only one president at a time until your president, until the new president is sworn in

46:15 The president who is there gets to make policy. So I don't know what Michael Flynn did or did not say, nor does anyone there on The View... I'll just say that as a matter of principle you can talk to anybody in that period but you should never suggest that you might be making changes in policy and maybe they should just wait until there's a change in administration. I don't know whether he did or did not but the principle issue wouldn't do that. Hey team this is clearly a dead Try Tillerson. Try the oil guy, maybe he'll have something to say about the oil. Exxon, Tillerson, Tillerson So you mentioned Rex Tillerson and you're a big fan of his I hear you now when i've read that And uh... He has the same job you had That's right Right But the difference between him and you is You're not a woman? He's your woman? That he has deep ties business ties to Russia Oh! It seems as though we were talking this morning about all these people who are attached to Russia Ohhh! What do make up all that attachment to Russia

47:14 Well, if you're an oil man... The Russians have what people call good geology. They've got a lot of oil and if you are an oil CEO, of course you're going to try to negotiate with Vladimir Putin to get rights to drill for that oil That's what you gonna do I think what you've seen though is that whatever Rex Tillerson's relationships may have been in Russia, he is acting on the basis of what the Russians are doing. He did something I'm not sure would have had the nerve to do. He went to Moscow just before he was going to meet with Putin and- Wait a minute but now she thinks she's a hero? This is crazy! It's like I wouldn't have had the nerve to do it. He went to Moscow just before he was going to meet with Putin and says well the Russian were either incompetent or they were lying

47:56 about the Syrian chemical weapons. I thought, wow that's rough! So he is acting on our behalf Oh, oh. But isn't he acting on behalf of Exxon? That can't be! This makes no sense! And now Condoleezza Rice sticks the knife in The View and they can't even say anything I get that about him but what about the rest of them? They didn't work for Exxon Just look at where relations are with Russians Again, we ought to be looking into what ties were there...that makes perfectly good sense

48:31 But I also want to say something about Vladimir Putin and interfering in our elections. He has been trying to interfere in our elections and everybody else's for a very long time. What cyber allows... I love the girls in the background, yeah that's right, that's right, yes true fact, yeah that's right. Listen to them they're there in the back, mm-hmm oh yeah. Interfere in our elections than everybody elses for a very long time What cyber allows him to do is it to do it more efficiently and more quickly. But let's not deceive ourselves that the Russians haven't tried these tricks before, they have. Now I would have said when we...I would've said to the Russians We know you did it at a time of our choosing we will find a way to punish that behavior

49:16 But Vladimir Putin is an eye for an eye kind of person. And we questioned, or Secretary Clinton questioned the legitimacy of his election in 2012 now he's saying now I'm going to question the legitimacy of your election by hacking into it and so forth So don't let him get the satisfaction of thinking that we don't believe our own elections to be legitimate. So do you think that was a personal eye for an eye against Hillary Clinton? I don't know what she said but whoo! Yes, yes. He likes to intimidate Madam Secretary if he indeed did engage in these types of tactics in our election then the very legitimacy of our election is at issue isn't it? No no and that's where

50:04 No, this sucks. on the basis of who they thought was best going to represent their interest. And so I'm not going to question the legitimacy of their vote because Vladimir Putin tried to interfere in the elections, that's just a step that i don't think we should take let's trust our fellow citizens have been smart enough to vote for the people that they thought they oughta be voting for. In the back you go yeah, yeah... Oh this is just moment of freshness and clarity on The View oh my goodness! It'll be last you'll ever see ever

CHAPTER 11 / 37 Discussion

South Korea Election, President Moon Jae-in and North Korea

South Korea elected Moon Jae-in, a liberal leader advocating for a less confrontational approach toward North Korea. President Moon expressed a willingness to visit Pyongyang to improve relations and solve the security crisis. Condoleezza Rice commented on the potential instability of a regime collapse in the North and the concerns China holds regarding refugees.

moon jae-in· south korea· north korea· pyongyang· condoleezza rice

50:53 Well, interestingly now she's on a tour. She's going to many different outlets and this was on Let me see I don't know where she was on but she slipped As good as she was on the view, she slipped. Listen for this slip in this short clip about North Korea and South Korea The situation is going to be complicated further by what happened in South Korea in the elections because by all reports this is going to be a South Korean government that has more favorable disposition toward the North Koreans perhaps wants negotiations

51:29 But we're gonna have to say to that North Korean government. Do you understand that with missile defenses and the like? We would like to try to protect you but don't even think about trying to In the isolation of the North Koreans because the American president will not tolerate the situation as it is Yeah, she says she blotched two or three things in there yeah, but she says we're gonna tell the North Koreans something then do as though they've been met South Korea's and then she's I don't know what the hell she was trying to do. No, no, no! What she's saying is... She was scrambled. Yes, that possible new leadership of South Korea will want to reunify and she's saying we can't have that? I mean arms sales crazy?! Exactly well here it is this clip is New Moon it says Moom The guy's name is Moon he's you know there are only four names in Korea Park Moon Kim Yum-yum

52:25 And so, and the first name is the last name. So it's that there's you just keep Park Sun and Moon anyway. So this guy is probably related to the moon guy but listen to this report on him from Deutsche Welle. All right now to South Korea where the new president says he is willing to visit North Korea to improve relations between the two countries The son of refugees who fled the north The new leader advocates a less confrontational approach towards Pyongyang That's one of several challenges facing him already on his first day in office. This is South Korea's new president, Moon Jae-in former human rights lawyer and a liberal taking over after decades of conservative rule His inbox is full and given recent high tensions with North Korea perhaps the most urgent task is to set a new tone with Pyongyang He says he's ready to go wherever necessary

53:25 I will urgently try to solve the security crisis. I'll be always on the move for peace in the Korean peninsula if necessary, I will fly straight to Washington I will go to Beijing and Tokyo and if the conditions allow to Pyongyang as well Exactly yeah Oh we can't have any of this No we can't I just got a clip in it would be kind of dangerous just to play it, but we could Apparently Condoleezza's take on killing Kim Jong-un Should we give it a shot?

54:03 Go one. You make a really good point about what China may or may not want I mean if we were to see the regime you know go away or die, what does that mean for refugees? Are they all going to flood into China? In fact they don't want that They don't want that and that long border that they share would be they believe unstable but the alternative at this point is a North Korean regime that keeps going on the path that it's on and that ultimately confronts an American president, I don't know if it's a year from now three years from now five years from now with having to use military force uh...to deal with that uh...with the capabilities in North Korea so i would say the Chinese nobody wants to take advantage of what might happen in North Korea most especially United States but you've got to get tougher with that regime

54:51 I guess it was about the killing of him. I don't know. It was nothing yeah, i'm sorry we tried you know But it is very interesting to see south and north Korea wanting to reunify And these are families that were split apart I mean this is you know well that and the new guy moon Is a from a North Korean family? Yeah We can have this because then what its more about China than about arms sales but China's also bought arm sales We can't have this happening So how are we gonna do that? How-how, we probably have to kill the new North Korean. The South Korean guy That's the only solution Because we need the evil kid Yeah, the evil kids good The evil kid is awesome I got an ask Adam It was still based on the Comey stuff Okay

CHAPTER 12 / 37 Discussion

John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Special Committees

Senator John McCain broke with many in the Republican party by expressing disappointment in the firing of James Comey and calling for a special congressional committee. While Democrats like Eric Swalwell and Pat Leahy labeled the move "Nixonian," McCain's stance provided a notable GOP exception. The segment notes the political dynamic between McCain and Senator Lindsey Graham.

john mccain· lindsey graham· eric swalwell· pat leahy· fbi

55:39 So I got to, this chatterbox was on Charlie Rose. Some journalist and she said that they couldn't talk and she was stammering and everything. She's bitchin' and moaning about the firing of Comey And at some point she mentioned something and I said no-no-no! I stopped it because this is a perfect Ask Adam. You know, forcing out of our talks. During Watergate? That's right the Watergate comparisons abound renewed calls for a special prosecutor with representative Eric Swalwell of California Democrat is on the House Intelligence Committee saying this is not what an innocent person would do This is an abuse of power shows a consciousness of guilt Pat Leahy The senator from Vermont says it's nothing less than Nixonian so on and so forth And while most Republicans that we've heard from So far in these early you know hour

56:26 two since this has begun unfolding, have stood by the decision for Comey to go saying he had been a lightning rod and contentious figure. But one notable exception so far on the Republican side- Ask Adam, ask Adam. All right let's see what one notable exception on the Republican side would take the side of the Democrats in attacking Trump? You got five seconds. Lindsey Graham and or John McCain Pick one. Lindsey Graham. Wrong! No, damn it! Damn it! Do I get a booby prize? You gotta remember this one little precept... Lindsey Graham does what John McCain tells him to. Oh okay. Well yeah, I think the reason why is because I remember seeing a Lindsey Graham clip somewhere and just thought maybe he was the one song. Yeah there was a few. Dammit so it was McCain

57:21 Yeah, play the answer. But one notable exception so far on the Republican side Senator John McCain saying that while Trump has the power to do this he's disappointed in President Trump and that this just underscores the need for a special congressional committee So while this certainly affects internally how the administration moves forward It is like throwing gas on the fire in terms of the congressional reaction. One point, which you just referred to the president does have the authority to fire the FBI director for any reason backfire. That's right. I left that little bit. He did this is not being emphasized very often on normal news shows and oh no it doesn't fit in with the narrative he got fired

CHAPTER 13 / 37 Discussion

Vladimir Putin, Sergei Lavrov and Rinkside Interview

CBS News correspondent Elizabeth Palmer interviewed Vladimir Putin at a hockey rink in Sochi regarding the dismissal of James Comey. Putin dismissed the event as a domestic U.S. matter that does not affect Russian relations. Meanwhile, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov met with President Trump in the Oval Office, a meeting documented by Russian state media after American reporters were excluded.

vladimir putin· sergei lavrov· elizabeth palmer· sochi· rex tillerson

58:13 Did you see Lavrov? Lavrov was with Rex Tillerson at the State Department. It's just gloating, it seems to me. Oh this is beautiful so they come in just to say hi and you know the old clippity-clop place there the doors open they walk in and hey everybody! And then a reporter shouts yo what do think about Comey getting fired?! And Lavrov does, Voddy got fired!! And then the CNN response is beautiful after that. To me, he looked really surprised.

59:12 I'm sure he was. What does he do? That's all he's got to do is follow the machinations of who gets fired and who doesn't? I mean, I think this is blown out of proportions. This is a domestic thing to begin with. It has nothing to do with international policy necessarily. Well here's the one... CBS was all over this of course with the company thesis and how it should go down. And they sent Elizabeth Palmer to Sochi to talk with Putin because he was, they could catch him in between matches. He's playing hockey for ice hockey. And so this is a... Wait wait wait hold on I didn't see this. Is he wearing like the big shoulder pads during the interview?

1:00:05 He's coming off the ice with the big shoulder pads on. And she is standing there in this kind of tunnel where the players are coming through as a game is over. Is she wearing a parka? Yes, she's wearing a furry hood. So he's skating off the ice and what's missing is that he doesn't skate up to her at high speeds and then stop and kick ice at her He doesn't do that, but he skates off and he comes up doing she starts asking him questions. He wants to just almost instantly answers the question because he understands English very well But but the translator stops him and makes them slow down so he could ask The question in Russian you through the translator And it goes but you can barely hear what he has to say, but most of it is We I don't who cares was got nothing to do with me

1:00:56 which is what Putin keeps saying. And then, as the report continues they go off and they give a kind of weird kind of nasty little needle to Putin in the end of the report when Scott Pelly comes back on it's very interesting free trip for Elizabeth to Sochi which is a resort area where she can do some skiing and so she goes there this is that this is it What happened yesterday It was truly shocking. Senate Democrats accused the president today of courting a constitutional crisis He feels the dragnet tightening on the Russia investigation I believe that's why he let Comey go They argue there is now just one solution What clip is this? It's uh, well maybe... Maybe I got the wrong one Should be Elizabeth Palmer in Sochi

1:01:51 I see the problem. Okay, it was my problem alphabet alphabetization issue Russian officials have been keeping an eye on all of this including Vladimir Putin well today our Elizabeth Palmer went one-on-one with Putin rinkside in Sochi Russia All suited up for an amateur hockey match, President Vladimir Putin took the time to weigh in on Washington's latest scandal. How will the firing of James Comey affect US-Russia relations? It looks very funny for me. Don't be angry with me We have nothing to do with it I could only hear we had nothing to do with it, was hard to care So the kicker is then, it's a Liz kicker You see? I'm going to play hockey with the hockey players Officially Putin denies Russia even has an opinion

1:03:03 But he's as skilled a player on the world stage as he is on the ice. As the president scored in Sochi, his foreign minister Sergei Lavrov was chalking up a win in Washington meeting President Trump in the Oval Office American reporters were shot out so it was up to the Russians to tweet this picture And this one with Russia's controversial ambassador, Sergey Kiselyak who remains at the heart of the alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia's meddling in the last election. The pictures would have pleased Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, who in a quiet backroom at the hockey arena explained his concern that any mention of Russia is now so toxic in Washington that real improvement in relations is a long way off. It's quite difficult for Mr Trump to speak about willingness to cooperate with Russia even if it is in the interest of United States what is ridiculous part of this story

1:04:04 So you're afraid he's now hemmed in? Well, he is definitely under a huge pressure by those who still argue his presidency. By those who still cannot accept that he is head of state in the United States. the fact that they have lost to Mr. Trump." Scott, the Russians had high hopes they would get along well with a Trump administration but it's all gone terribly wrong and relations haven't been this bad since the end of the Cold War so they're looking for any opportunity to build on at the moment however all that didn't put mr. Putin off his game today he went on to score

1:04:50 seven goals. Not even Vladimir Putin checks Elizabeth Palmer, Liz thanks very much. Okay so we have two jokes at the end one nobody scores seven goals in hockey unless it's rigged you know yeah well hello oh my god I missed it and can't stop it from going in or kicking it in and then the Chex joke which is... Yeah yeah yeah very funny yeah well you know It's not like Obama with the mom jeans throwing out the first pitch. Remember the lob? That was great, and Bush wasn't much better. Anyway we definitely have to talk about Putin but before that I would like to personally thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C whether he stands for CIA is covering up the poppies Dvorak

CHAPTER 14 / 37 Discussion

No Agenda Producer Credits, Donations and Hypernormalization

The hosts acknowledge high-tier donors including Sir Onimus, who contributed the value of one ounce of gold, and Jordan Goodfellow. A discussion of the Adam Curtis documentary "Hypernormalization" highlights its exploration of Libya, Syria, and the influence of Henry Kissinger. The segment includes "de-douching" rituals for listeners who have received value from the show without contributing.

sironymous· jordan goodfellow· adam curtis· hypernormalization· value for value

1:05:42 Well in the morning you Mr. Adam Curry also in the morning all ships at sea feet on the ground subs in the air Feet in the air and subs of the water and all the air and then they ran this thought it subs in the water out there dames and knights yes indeed and in the morning to everyone there in the In the war room no agenda stream calm good to see everybody there Trying to help out some of you at least remember This is a job that you have as a producer, and we also want to thank comics for blogger Forbeing, an awesome art producer. Great piece for episode 9 or 2-7, Meme Fumes And it was the medical staff with the two snakes climbing up The DNA symbol and one snake was red One was blue One had a donkey head One had an elephant head And dollars in the wings It was beautiful! It said a lot With a microphone no less Snuck in there It was a good piece Damn good piece

1:06:38 Who knew? You know, I remember when he first started and we didn't pick some of his stuff. And then he got irked and left and they came in went and came in went but like everybody else who got really good uh... My original example is always Martin JJ who when I looked back on it had been doing pieces for years without getting picked and then all the sudden got a clue or something happened something changed ding! And they was hitting him one after the other to the point where he had to go into semi-retirement Wow. Remember that? He said, I can't keep winning every week. You've got six or seven in a row. Yeah oh well it happens

1:07:17 Well, we do have a few people to thank. A lot of them actually for show... Nine or two eight? Nine or two eight and we start off with our big donation from Sir Onimus $971.93 he sent a note in every time he contributes I don't know why hasn't claimed his barony yet or anything but he sent a note in and he His notes are always critical. I get a kick out of it And will he also explain the donation amount? Well, here he goes. No... maybe I don't know let's see yeah there it is i got it yeah he does explain for producer credit please use my title sironymous of dog patch not sir o-nonimous or anonymous as you have in the past! Oh noes. O-nonymous is the opposite of anonymous

1:08:11 Query, are the two dimensions a demonstration of Einstein's special relativity theory? Special relativity incorporates time dilation and length contraction. Simply any stationary clock is observed to move more slowly than a moving clock and objects are measured to be shorter in the direction they are moving perhaps the groups have faster clocks in shorter parts as they look at each other but seem normal to themselves Personally, I strive for that safe place in dimension C somewhere near area 51. As Google Facebook and Amazon and other social media track us for profit by the way this is the guy, Ononymous who did the letters come in with no return address and there's no stamp or anything that would indicate where what state it even came from. The checks are just blank checks

1:09:05 with no name and address or nothing. And his signature is illegible! Yeah, so he's very much into anonymity or ownonimity I'll get criticized for saying that. As Google, Facebook Amazon and other social media track us for profit and for profit they stifle free speech supporting forums with free speech is important this means us yes you continue to be gold even when i disagree you offer uncensored perspectives 971.93 equals one ounce of gold as measured in sterling, which is now only half a Bitcoin. Yes. Talked about that on the DHM plug show. I sent in the value in dollars you lose on the conversion just like I did with Brexit

1:09:57 Take that, bitches. And that was that. So I'm going to give him a karma even though he didn't ask for it. I'm sure its wrong but... You've got karma. Want to make sure we do this just for myself because its highly appreciated your ounce of gold once again. Yeah an ounce of gold in sterling and sterling can reconvert into dollars which means you get gypped. Jordan Goodfellow in Arvada Colorado $333.33 We have three of those We have three times 333.33 John and Adam it's been too long since my last donation and the poor showing on Thursday was as much needed wake-up call I need a de-douching You've been de-douched! I was in South Korea last week, from where we've been hearing from the MSM it seems as though we were on the brink of another war based on what I saw he could not be further from the truth

1:10:52 Everyone's going about their Westernized day as if nothing is going on. Thank you for keeping us sane and helping us realize that we don't need to worry nearly as much as we are told to worry! We need to call out all the freeloaders that don't donate and remind you that anytime they have used the information from this show to their advantage, they have received value. And yet they haven't returned a likewise contribution. Value for value! Donate today and don't be a douchebag!" I would like a Reverend Manning Obama calls... Reverend Manning? Any Reverend Manning, I guess. Obama calls on America John slash business karma as i'm working to grow my

1:11:31 business before the economy ends up in the toilet again. Thank you for all the work that you put in every week, the shows are just getting better and better." Oh thank you very much sir! Thank you and I love it when we get these notes people say how do you pitch this value for value thing? Well the people who are donating to it actually yeah gotta love that. That's a show no money shot oh Jesus look at that that's some money shot and Conway in a money shot. There's indeed for rescue mission when the world is threatened, the world needs help it calls on America. And that's the story jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs

1:12:19 karma Jordan Goodfellow in Arvada, Colorado. Thank you sir Warren Carroll a parts unknown according to this 333 33 number 203 I have been I've been listening since around episode 200, and while I'm a knight, I have let you down over these many past years. In the years that I have not donated, I spent many thousands of dollars on alcohol, weed and hallucinogens so it is high time—no pun intended—that I make a donation to the best podcast in the universe." I'm a little conflicted here! Keep up the great work and thank you both for your dedication and hard work. Maybe you should just send me the weed directly!

1:13:05 I'm gonna give him some karma. Thank you, sir for this appreciate it. You've got Sir Warren Carroll Very nice Sir American carnage comes in next the third 333 33 and it's a note is the donation from Sir American Carnage stay woke no note My millennials Stay woke! We will Sir John of Shingle House, $300. This is Sir John of Shingle House calling out my longtime friend Wayne and Laura, that's two of them, douchebags!

1:13:45 He heard my nighting streamed live, wrote me on the facebag to congratulate me and now I know he's a boner not a donor. Oh noes! I have become executive producer of this episode to make the most impact on this horrific finding No karma for you Wayne Back in da line Excellent thankyou Thankyou I'm gonna give Sir John some karma You've got karma. And my son who thanks to the favorite word. Yeah, of course One year old and my son who thanks to the show is no doubt The most informed and politically savvy eighth grader in the world Yes My son requests a Hillary we've come We saw he died and we'd all like some karma to help us deal with the crazy family members Who hates us for not being Hilary bots?

1:14:56 It was very... did you read her whole note? The part that she didn't want us to read on the show. Yeah, yeah About her family? Yeah That's pretty fun isn't it? Yeah Sorry we can't tell ya So I mean that is the land of unconfirmed videos We came! We saw! He died! You've got karma That's right! I had been looking for it for a long time and finally found it on YouTube, the full 2 hour 15 minute Adam Curtis documentary. Hypernormalization

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Knighting Ceremonies, Travel Karma and Climate Haikus

Several listeners are recognized for their contributions, including Sir Ladyfingers and Jim Burlingame. The segment features a discussion on Michael Crichton's book "State of Fear" and the historical impact of the DDT ban on malaria rates. Various audio jingles are played, including a "Climate Haiku" and a "Mac and Cheese" song requested by producers.

neil degrasse tyson· kiki· michael crichton· ddt· mac and cheese

1:15:33 What's the name of it? Hypernormalization. Oh, okay! Fantastic! Now his stuff is outrageous and it's BBC so you got to always keep that in the back of your mind but when he kind of left to his own devices... He explained a lot about Libya and Syria and really how it all fit together with Kissinger and there was a lot of filled in a lot of holes for me particularly it's really interesting how Syria Assad's dad who is accused of being a horrible, evil dictator. Yeah he killed a lot of people but he did that after he got screwed! He was really trying to make the Arab world unified at least according to the documentary

1:16:11 And that's why he got all bitter and said screw him to kill everybody kind of that idea and then how Gaddafi was just marginalized and completely, you know It just it's a well worth watching. I'll put a link in the show Well all he does is he spends all his time in the archives the film archives at the BBC which go way back mm-hmm filming audio and he just Develops a thesis based on watching stuff and he's really good I'm gonna watch it again. Now, we got through half of it and I want to watch again tonight with Tina She's gotta see this is really good onward sir ladyfingers in Dayton Ohio

1:16:52 $253.89, $253.89 says Thomas Butterick he calls himself which is his name because himself Sir Lady Fingers Howdy John and Adam I am currently listening to episode 926 and i'm appalled by the poor showing of support and I've attached a check for 33% percent of recent merit bonus from work post-slave tax extraction As I am a couple of donations away from Baron, I'm curious what duties are expected of this esteemed title. May I request the following jingles? I'm Neil deGrasse Tyson... I'm Neil DeGrasse Tyson bitch! You have that one somewhere?" Maybe yeah i do actually yes okay Kiki shut up already it's science I have-I have a new kiki which I'm gonna use

1:17:43 Okay, and then you want some travel karma. I'll be in Israel with my smoking hot girlfriend. So he wants a MILF, I'm sure? So successfully hitting the mouth... Well she's not a MILF! Oh sorry She's not a mother she's a girlfriend We look forward to catching up on the show when we return Thank you for- You know you can listen to this show on the road On the plane. Plane's a great time to listen to this show. Yeah Sir Ladyfingers Thomas Butterick I'm Neil deGrasse Tyson, bitch! What has science done for you lately? You've got karma. I'm really liking that new one. I like it. Kiki. I'd like to hear that again. What has science done for you lately? Girl is insane. It's show business

1:18:36 Jim Burlingame in Bergen, New York. $250. My donation is an honor of two occasions one my firstborn male human resources 17 today I don't know if he's in the birthday? Yeah I believe so yes I'll check keep reading What do you get the teenager that wants a car for his birthday no agenda producer credit of course This will drive you very far in life, son. I have predominantly been exposed to the left-right brainwashing paradigm in the mainstream media learning how to simultaneously remove the conditioning, uh, the conditioned emotional response through the news while applying some critical thinking skills is truly life changing and has turned out to be one of the most valuable lessons I've been able to share with my children! You're welcome

1:19:27 Sunday is also Mother's Day, so my wife Amy hated your show when I first discovered it several years ago. To be fair she is a music listener so she hates all the podcasts that I listen to! So I set out on a mission to hit her in the mouth every evening while she was lying in bed and would take my shower with your show playing in the adjoining bathroom She was forced to listen just a bit at a time After several weeks I started hearing comments when I turned off the show like hey hey I was listening to that Now she listens to every show and was one that suggested this donation. Listening to and discussing No Agenda has helped our marriage, and given me yet another reason to be grateful for your show." So happy birthday to my son! Happy Mother's Day to my wife! Here is 200 bucks toward a knighthood and $50 dollars to start my wife on her way to becoming a dame. My 17th birthday should be weighted more than an annual Mother's Day right?

1:20:19 Right? I'd love to hear the following jingles. Don't eat me Hillary, tooter they had Trump as president and little girl yeah thanks Obama. Don't eat me Hillary Clinton! He's Trump he's Trump the President! Yeah! Thanks Obama there you go uh-huh it should be something of a botch Mark Beacham in Nairobi, Kenya. $250. Hope my contribution finds you both well and is the first of many! And if I can contribute to this show in any way please let me know. He's in Kenya we can get anything you got. I'm sure it's always gonna be highly interesting. Keep an eye on The Chinese for us. Yes Craig Harmser, CAH $246.80 Can I get a milf for my hot fiancee enjoying some

1:21:17 Glynn live at 18 the product getting ready to get hitched tomorrow Friday to my wonderful Fiance no karma, but I would like to get an Obama you might die It would be much appreciated. Also. I Snuck mine Noah gender ring into our engagement pictures He keeps pointing like a and then that's his engagement ring the the Noah Jenna night ring yeah Oh, that's funny. We got a lot of funny guys! That is very funny... Okay so what do you need here? He needs uh... Obama might die. Milf, Obama you might die okay but no karma correct yes all right milf that's one mother I'd like to have. You might die. There ya go cute Douglas Garcia and Dunbarton New Hampshire $234.56 keep up the great show i don't know why so many listening

1:22:19 But so many people out there listening are being douchebags. Please send me some moving karma You've got karma Here we go, here's Baron otaku baron of the Northeast Texas in the Red River Valley Right there by you. Thanks to the book recommendations, I love Michael Crichton's state of fear actually checked a couple of the statements that were made in the book and in fact according to WHO malaria really did kill more people than Hitler In fact they think it has killed more people that Hitler and Stalin combined since the DDT ban 40 years ago

1:23:02 That's yeah, that's in the book John we finally got a call at barbecue cook-off and got paid for the second place ribbon So I'm donating to spread around some of the love if it wasn't for this show. I'd be bored as hell during these long nights at competitions Listen to every professional barbecuer can I get? JCD mac and cheese logo or Gurley a and some karma Mac and Cheese and little girl yay, and some karma. You slaves can get used to mac n cheese Mac n cheese! Mac n cheese! Macaroni and chee- Cheddar melted together Mac N Cheese Mac N Cheese Mac N Cheese YAYYYY! You've got Karma. Uhhhhhh... Duh... Dewey Daily $222.22 It's a good showing today by the way

1:23:59 Gentlemen, your podcast helps us all laugh at the craziness of the left and feel better about the current condition. We should be laughing at the right too by the way. Yeah we do! Lindsey Graham better about the current conditions of our country. I do, however believe that this is the beginning of the second civil war as a country The last time we were separated and hateful of each other was the first civil war may have been maybe worse now Unfortunately for the list not really you study it. Nah, not even close unfortunately because it was different Unfortunately for the left We have all the guns

1:24:38 Yes, I think that's an observation many people have made. Got to love it! Rest assured, rest assured, I will defend Southern Central Pennsylvania for us. Ha ha ha he says. Also, I'd rather hear Adam say of course 100 more times than hear old Johnny Boy say stop stop stop once more. Yours truly...I had to get him to stop. Yours truly Millennial Dewey Daly. Beautiful. Okay, of course. Of course! Sean Fincham, Parts Unknown $202.02 I have no note from him let us take a quick search of the email database fincham F-I-C-H okay just try finch should do it F-I-N-CH hmm okay maybe maybe maybe Sean Fincham

1:25:42 Actually, on July 16th he sent something in. Oh wait here it is May 10th. AITM Jens Adams HCA analysis on the last show was spot-on and outstanding I agree with that. Thank you. Humbly requesting the following jingles. Here we go these are some gems this you'll never get these climate haiku Then two to the head, followed by some student loan debt jobs karma. Oh well that's not that hard. My smoking hot wife is graduating from USC with a degree in pharmacy at Farm D. This is Sir Finch nasty night of The Bachelor Butte Let me see if this is the right one. Haiku for slaves Too delicious to believe Can you see that juice? I think that's what he wanted Yeah that may have been it Okay well there it is

CHAPTER 16 / 37 Discussion

Mother's Day Donations, Ronald Conan-bear and Show Logistics

The hosts read notes from donors contributing in honor of Mother's Day and James Comey. Ronald Noren calls out his co-workers as "douchebags" for listening without donating. The segment includes various "money shot" jingles and a discussion of the upcoming Mother's Day show schedule.

mothers day· ronald noren· tim koster· xavier hacking· whoopie goldberg

1:26:42 You've got karma. Very well done and it's a nasty night at the Bachelor of Butte William M Rank $200 we get to the end here finally this donation is made in honor of Jim Comey agree with Trumps decision or not it's clear to me that comey did what he thought was the right thing to do given these circumstances and I hope our country gets more out of his leadership at some point Your show is more important than ever with all the insane speculative narratives flying around as fact. Particularly, the firing Comey is clear evidence of a cover-up narrative

1:27:26 John, you're a level-headed witty insightful grump. Adam you're a gentleman and a scholar who knows how to run a podcast damn well side note let the grump do what he does best and stop yelling at him love you both could you play me any pro Comey clip you have? Pro comey I have one short one...I don't want a door i don't want a window i don't want a sliding glass door i would like people to comply with court orders and that's the conversation we're trying to have I don't know that's as pro as i can make it. I don't know what yeah, there's probably other ones maybe Maxine waters that was approach plummy clummy clip of chloe me clip all right ron noren He sent a note in an email which is just dug up probably missed the deadline for sunday show well no

1:28:19 Yeah, yeah you did. You missed the Sunday for yes right? Can you push me to Thursdays or Yes that's what happened. You got pushed and here right I remember this note coming in by the way late it came in at 3 in the morning of the next day The show has done more than an excellent job lately having me laugh out loud regularly I was surprised to see donations at such poor levels last Thursday time to step up and support the best podcasting the multiverse Why because because like Adam puts it I pay for my entertainment. You get a lot of mileage out of that And to trigger three of my co-workers who listen all the time but somehow never hear their names in the donation segment, let's call them out as douchebags. Ready? Oh I'm sorry yes. Ronald...

1:29:00 Conan-gin, Conan-ginberg I think. Conan-bear! DOOSHBAG! Tim Koster? Tim Koster! DOOSHBAG! Xavier Hacking? DOOSHBAG! 2nd of May my third human resource Charlotte was born and she is having some startup issues can you please send some much needed no agenda boost karma thank you finally for my jingle request can i have a manning money shot whoopie get out of my yeah and what be classified Okay, so hot cheese. I'm doing a million things here at the same time will be money shot no Manning what money shot? Yeah, can't type even my guy got a small thing going on here Why the hell kind of okay? I'm sorry money shots whoopie get out of my and then we'll be classified which I don't know what that is yeah, I do yeah geez

1:30:00 Can you play the slide whistle or something? Oh, I can play- no. I know what you want to hear You wanna hear me tuning up my recorder Oh no nevermind i just got it off That's a Shona money shot! Oh Jesus! Woooah look at that! That's a money shot! Conway in the money shot Get out of my vagina! Classic! You've got karma What was that What was the classified one? Oh, that was it. It was whoopee a while ago I don't remember that at all yeah anyway she was going its classified its classified oh Well, that's right runs in New Netherlands is forgot about that dimension that Herbert harms 200 bucks would be our last donor and he let me just say there we go again Let's see if you sent us a notice sure he did everyone else has

1:30:59 Harms, harms. I don't want to get in harm's way And yes we got something maybe Craig Herbert Harms no all the last note came in from him on October 19th It was just a donation note so will us if you have something to tell us that will run it later Thanks Herbert and give him some random karma You've got karma That's our executive producers and associate executive producers for the show And this will be a lot of them and we want to thank them all for helping us carry the show on to Mother's Day Which would be our next show. Yes, and do we have special donation amounts coming for that? Yeah 51 there's a couple of them it

1:31:46 It's 5 the date, which is something like the 18th. Nobody actually cares. Mom's getting a raw deal this year! 5140 appears to be it and there are very few people... I'm glad for all the donations but their Mothers Day... No no, I blame this on Comey you have to understand that news media always has their Mothers' day Package is good to go, but they're just running out of time. They don't have the time for the human interest It's all got to be call me call me call me Trump call me call me jump jump jump jump call me come come jump You know I'm saying mark the time okay? I shall mark the time when I say remember us for our next program Thank you very much executive and associate executive producers This is highly appreciated we will be on the air again on Sunday We need you to support us at Dvorak org slash and a while you here call me charm call me charm calm drum calm drum

CHAPTER 17 / 37 Discussion

Domain Name Expiry, Technical Difficulties and PayPal

During the live recording, the hosts discover that a primary show domain expired due to a declined credit card following a change of address. Adam Curry describes the frantic process of attempting to renew the domain via PayPal while simultaneously managing the podcast's audio elements. The issue was eventually resolved with assistance from the show's technical back-channel.

dns· domain renewal· paypal· void zero· technical support

1:32:39 Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, slave! Okay let me tell you what's going on- Let me just say what's going on. I don't care what's goin' on. Okay So at the beginning of the donation segment even before that I go to... uh The archive to see what art was used because they always write that down and what the title of the episode was

1:33:20 And as the page loads, I see that the player is failing to load the mp3 file. Just notice that So we're now in the donation segment with jingles to search for It turns out one of our very important domains has expired two days ago and the reason why...I didn't know about it well a whole bunch of reasons but i didn't get a notification not one I saw so im like okay now have to figure out where- I gotta renew this because we have to upload this show an everything should be working So I'm with void zero and sir Ben Rose there in the back channel like it's like look just renew it well Yeah, but see it's your information and of course. I've changed my credit card address so was he got a decline failed whatever so Okay here you're telling me hold on You're doing this while I'm throwing random requests for jingles that yes Yes Wow yeah

1:34:13 And but it gets worse. I am impressed! It gets worse, it keeps getting failed...it doesn't say declined says failed so then I like Okay, I log in and pay with PayPal good. I use the no agenda PayPal fail. I use my personal PayPal fail I'm going through this while you're throwing out you'll never get these clips. Oh thanks Anyway, I think we I think we've sorted it out. But it was right. I'm sweating That's great not really people have no idea how good you are or I didn't yes fact Honest a little bit of

CHAPTER 18 / 37 Discussion

Tim Kaine, Sally Yates and Executive Authority

Senator Tim Kaine criticized the firing of James Comey as part of a pattern of "extraordinary personnel actions," including the dismissal of Sally Yates. A clip from a Senate hearing features Ted Cruz questioning Yates on the statutory authorization for the travel ban. The hosts analyze the legal distinction between State Department regulations and executive authority.

tim kaine· sally yates· ted cruz· muslim ban· immigration law

1:34:53 A bit of more, this Russia thing. Just a few things... I have one more Comey clip. Oh okay we'll do one more Comey clip This was just a clip of the mania that Really hate the Trump hatred thing going on to an extreme. This was Tim Kaine it was brought in PBS I mean, I guess is the former vice presidential candidate along with Hillary obviously hates Trump Yeah And he comes on which is just nonsense and I found it I mean Judy tried this you know point out that it was bullcrap what he was saying but did most egregious ones where I cut it off and then we'll make a comment and then we're gone on

1:35:33 there. On Capitol Hill we have heard serious concerns raised by some Republicans and calls from Democrats for a special counsel to investigate the Russia story, we get reaction out of Mr Trump's firing of James Comey from Hillary Clinton's vice presidential nominee he is the Democratic senator from the state of Virginia Tim Kaine Senator Kane thank you very much for joining us. Glad to Judy the firing of Director Comey outrageous. Why? I think this is a clear attempt by President Trump to thwart and block and undermine the investigation into collusion and ties between Russia, and the Trump campaign transition administration And there is now a pattern of very extraordinary personnel actions The firing of Sally Yates The firing of General Flynn

1:36:24 Attorney General Sessions having to recuse himself from the Russia investigation and now the firing of Jim Comey. And the thing, the thread that connects all these highly unusual actions is the investigation into Russia President Trump is afraid of this he's trying to undermine it And that should make us all redouble our efforts to both on the criminal side have a special prosecutor to get to the bottom of it and in Congress, the Senate Intel Committee needs to accelerate the pace and get the answers we need. Well Senator I'm sure you know the White House is saying that's just not the case they are saying they had a specific set of reasons for firing Director Comey it had to do with

1:37:03 he handled Secretary Clinton's email controversy. They had a different set of reasons for asking the National Security Advisor, General Flynn to leave and so on and so on. So why are you so convinced that the Russia investigation is at the core of all this? Judy again let's dig into the pattern Sally Yates is the deputy AG, a career prosecutor. She goes to the White House and she says we are worried that your sitting national security advisor is compromised by ties to Russia and President Trump immediately fires not General Flynn he fired Sally Yates

1:37:42 He doesn't just instantly fire Sally Yates. No, she refused to participate in the Muslim...to uphold the Muslim ban. And that was big news and the same guys like him oh she was just trying you know she was doing her moral best by not going along with this Muslim ban and he went on about it now all of a sudden its because of this and besides that when she first reported it Flynn was fired within two weeks Well hold on a second. He took up dates Hold one second I have only one Yates clip and i thought it was actually quite good. Um, when Senator Cruz reads her the law saying hey! The president's allowed to do this because he was hammering down on why she actually was fired because she didn't uphold the executive order. You mind if I just play this quick? Yes! Texas Republican senator Ted Cruz asked Yates to explain why she thought it was okay to defy the President He quoted the statute that gives the President authority over immigration

1:38:44 Whenever the president finds that the entry of any alien or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation and for such period as he shall deem necessary suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or non-immigrants. Or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem appropriate Would you agree that is broad statutory authorization? I would and i am familiar with that. And also familiar with an additional provision of the INA, which says no person shall receive preference or be discriminated against in issuance of a visa because of race nationality or place of birth That I believe was promulgated after the statute that you just quoted. Well...and I really love this because The two things are completely separate

CHAPTER 19 / 37 Discussion

Jerry Nadler, Collusion Claims and Fantasy Narratives

Representative Jerry Nadler asserted that the firing of James Comey is definitive proof of a cover-up and collusion with Russia, despite admitting a lack of direct evidence. The hosts criticize this logic as a "fantasy world" narrative. They call for the release of transcripts related to Michael Flynn to provide factual clarity.

jerry nadler· nancy drew· russia collusion· fbi· transcripts

1:39:34 There's a difference between State Department rules and regulations, and an executive authority. And people were like, oh she just butt-slammed Ted Cruz! Butt slam!! I'm no lawyer but to me that seemed pretty flimsy Yeah, I agree. So I have a couple of clips here about the collusion and just a lot of hate Russia, Russia Trump, Russia Trump, Trump, Trump, Russia. This is Representative Jerry Nadler It is clear that this was fired That the firing was because the president didn't like the investigation or perhaps he's afraid where it was going And until today I would've said that I had suspicions about the president campaign's collusion with the Russians

1:40:23 This firing leads me to conclude that there was collusion, that the president was involved in it because otherwise there is no reason the president would undertake this cover-up. And this is clearly part of a cover up." It's just unbelievable! They're just making it up! I mean... listen Look, hear me now believe me later. It would be great for our show if there was this elaborate cover-up This would be fantastic But excuse me Nancy Drew it's I mean the the reason is very expressly stated you may not like it You may not believe it but you're just in a fantasy world If there are any facts this show certainly be the first to go Oh gotcha

1:41:04 Where's the transcripts of Flynn? Where is any of this stuff. None of it exists. Alright, Congressman Nadler for the record there you are saying that you believe because of this the president himself colluded with Russians ahead of the election. No proof at this point unless there is something you have to show that. This is just your assumption based on this firing. My assumption based on the firing is that there's no reason why he would do that if he didn't, if you weren't concerned that the investigation was going to show things that he didn't want shown. And either means that he was or people close to him were colluding with the Russians." Now please! He's even saying, No-no-no There's no evidence but it obviously means that there's evidence

CHAPTER 20 / 37 Discussion

Watergate Comparisons, Cokie Roberts and "Dick" Movie

Cokie Roberts of ABC News compared the current political climate to Watergate, suggesting the press is the only remaining check on presidential power. The hosts argue the comparison is false and recommend the comedy film "Dick" for its satirical take on the era. They discuss the historical role of "Deep Throat" and the technical aspects of the Nixon tapes.

watergate· cokie roberts· richard nixon· kirsten dunst· deep throat

1:41:47 Or that it happened. Maybe they have the movie, The Peeing on the Bed? Oh! Another one I'd love to see! Oh my goodness... Now ABC Nightline Had Koki Roberts on and they just took this all the way to be just throwing in the kitchen sink Every meme every and I shortened this up significantly less than a minute half Just saying you know from Watergate to be a cover. It's everything do you think the water gate comparison is a fair one? Yes, what we see in both situations Is how can how can it be Watergate was ill John?

1:42:23 And refresh our memory on Watergate for a moment. What happened exactly? Because no one is...they were just throwing out Watergate and half the people who are saying it weren't even alive when Watergate happened. Watergate was during the second Nixon administration where there's some fears that the Democrats were planning some sort of something, and they...Nixon's people put together a burglar team of ex-CIA guys, and if you read Family of Secrets book. It's implied that these guys botched it on purpose because the CIA was out to get Nixon, but you have to read that book is very interesting theory and changes your view on Nixon anyway so Nixon put together a bunch of burglars and they burglarized the place illegally And I don't know if they remember what they stole documents or but they were caught

1:43:13 And then the whole thing turned into a, because of the attempted cover-up and then the discovery of tapes. This is where it gets interesting and I want you to just delve into a little bit... The tapes specifically, the Watergate tapes this was involved in recording conversations wiretapping or not this is somehow how its being compared to each other Yeah, and there's no comparison. It is a very false comparison on pretty much every level I mean, I think you can compare it to a lot of other things. I think Iran-Contra would be closer but except for the lack of the CIA although they may be involved in this, we don't know But...no, they just like throwing it out because its got an evil term nobody remembers what Watergate was about or who was involved with it And what was

1:44:06 So my grandmother at the time, we were living in the Netherlands so this was 72-73 I think Watergate? Around that time. And my grandmother would record on our little... Remember those portable cassette tape players where you had like... A Niagara! Nooo! My grandma did not have a Niagara! A Nagara! No, it was a Sony or something. And you slip the- is it top loader? Slip the cassette and people don't know this! Top loader, slip the cassette and pffft You close- you close the door. Hmm? A Philips Norelco. Norelco Yes With that shitty microphone with the switch on the side

1:44:46 With the switch, it would always make so much noise when you turn it on and go... It would sound like this. Okay I'm talking now? I'm going to turn it off! And then you had to press the red button record or as the Dutch would say record and play at the same time that would then start the tape mechanism and would say let's record later of course we use those for our VIC-20 in Commodore 64s different story Wasn't there some erase, the secretary had gotten herself all... somehow she had her left foot on the pedal and a right foot in her ear. Her left hand could somehow accidentally erase? There was some, there was a few minutes erased this was explained in a movie Oh gosh that's our American history for you The movie was a comedy called I think it's called Dick

1:45:33 And I'll get the name of the movie. It's a must, unfortunately it's such a reference movie so if you weren't around during this era you would not have... have a clue what the jokes were, which is the problem with this movie. But it had this...the moment where this happened in the movie was somebody was having sex on the desk or something and they bumped a thing. I never heard that part of the story! That's even better. No no, this is bullcrap. It's a comedy. It's a comedy movie and it explains-it actually explains the entire Watergate phenomenon in some way that makes sense because of these two cheerleaders that showed up at the White House. And it's one of the most interesting, well-constructed films ever made. Oh another tip! Yeah let me get what you're talking about I'll get to name this movie. It is called Dick though. Okay...I will...that sounds familiar. Anyways so Koki Roberts who is from that era and I forgot to finish a story my grandmother would send these tapes all the congressional hearings which are on TV and radio all day long

1:46:37 And of course she'd send them as, hey here's the Watergate tapes. Anyway... Here is Cokie Roberts ABC Nightline. The Watergate comparison is a fair one? Yes What we see in both situations Is a president feeling that an investigation was getting too close for comfort and trying to shut it down One key difference between now and then there was a select committee on Watergate by The difference now is that the only one of those checks that is there, it's the press. And the president has spent a great deal of his presidency undermining the press. You need Woodward and Bernstein? Right! But would investigative reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein have had this same impact in the era of Twitter and so-called fake news? We know there's no such thing as fake news. We live at a time when people don't believe facts

1:47:45 And if we can't convince people that facts are facts, that's a very difficult situation. Tonight the Senate Intel Committee issued a subpoena for documents from General Mike Flynn, a sign their investigation of him is pressing on. Senators are also asking questions about Trump's business dealings. During your investigation of all things Russia did you ever find a situation where Trump business interests in Russia gave you concern. Senator Graham, I can't comment on that because that impacts Investigations officials tell ABC News that the FBI is increasingly focused on several Trump associates including Carter page now there's something missing for yeah We'll get to him There's something missing in the comparison because Worden and Bernstein didn't they have deep throat? Oh

1:48:37 Yes, and in the movie which is called Dick by the way. The deep throat is accounted for by the two cheerleaders And by the way to cheerleaders are done Kirsten Dunst and Michelle Williams playing 15 year olds Yes, Deep Throat was the guy who finally revealed himself a few I think like five years ago if you're not mistaken. Mm-hmm as some CIA guy Retired now all right so we're missing a deep throat We don't have a deep throat in this but we do have the wire tapping and well we do have Lindsey Graham in a matter of speaking Yay Nobody wants Lindsey Graham on their dodgeball team okay? It's just not happening Senator Rand Paul.

CHAPTER 21 / 37 Discussion

Rand Paul, Surveillance and Intelligence Community Power

Senator Rand Paul criticized Democratic hypocrisy regarding James Comey and raised concerns about the surveillance of political candidates. Paul referenced Chuck Schumer's warning that the intelligence community has "six ways from Sunday" to get back at opponents. The discussion focuses on the potential for domestic intelligence agencies to sway elections through "unmasking" and data collection.

rand paul· chuck schumer· surveillance· unmasking· intelligence community

1:49:37 There's a lot of hypocrisy going on. Many of these Democrats, including Chuck Schumer said they lost confidence in Comey a long time ago Hillary Clinton has been blaming Comey They should be thanking President Trump for getting rid of Comey because he politicized something that may well have had something to do with Hillary Clinton's loss So I think it is a lot of crocodile tears and people saying They were forgetting where to come me too, but now they're gonna say it's all about this Russia investigation Which hasn't produced one iota of evidence that anybody did anything wrong or broke the law? No. Thank you finally someone speaking some truth and then he elaborates on the wiretapping, which we've explained but it's just nice to hear

1:50:33 by using some sort of modern technology that really is not literally a wiretap anymore. But they did listen to Flynn's phone call and this is an amazing invasion of privacy, and realize what kind of world we're going to live in, and realize the statement that Chuck Schumer said just a week or two ago. He said don't mess with our intelligence community because they'll get you six ways to Sunday if you do and that Trump's making a big mistake here, but he was coming from one of the people Schumer is one of the eight people in Congress that know everything about intelligence when he says that the president should be afraid of the intelligence community That shouldn't make us all wake up Because what about the lesser mortals in this country? They decide they don't like us

1:51:14 What do you think could happen to us if they had that much power? And when you say, You think you were surveilled. Do you get a lead on that or is that a gut feeling Or are you just wonder We've had two reporters call us who say they have sources I have not seen the sources so i can't say one way or another But when I have 2 different reporter calling me saying They have multiple sources Saying that The Obama administration was either unmasking presidential candidates, my ears do perk up. Not really for my sake because I know i haven't done anything wrong but really for the American public's sake that if they're doing this to presidential candidates they could sway presidential elections? See we're worried about the Russians swaying an election what about our own intelligence community being used by the previous administration to sway elections that is a bombshell! Yeah well remember the Kucinich clip that we had yeah

1:52:05 He was also pissed about it. Actually, pissed? Yeah. Pissed! And of course they finally railroaded him out of office. Well yeah... Through gerrymandering We can't have that Okay, what else we got? Anything- Well I have a quickie. If you don't mind just real quick. Phrase from the Shays... Phrase from the Shays which was my phrase which was found someone figured out where the term blood on the moon comes from Which is something my mom would say Adam Clark Curry if you do that there'll be blood on the moon

CHAPTER 22 / 37 Discussion

German Nazi Plot, Refugee Impersonation and Military Arrests

German authorities arrested a third suspect in a suspected far-right terror cell within the military. The plot allegedly involved a lieutenant impersonating a refugee to carry out assassinations of top politicians, including former President Joachim Gauck, to frame immigrants. Investigators are searching barracks across Germany for Nazi memorabilia and evidence of right-wing extremism.

germany· nazi plot· joachim gauck· heiko maas· franco a

1:52:50 I've heard it used, but don't know what it means. I think once did? Well you...but I have the etymology of where it comes from That's what we're waiting for It comes from the movie Blood on the Moon with Robert Mitchum Barbara Bel Geddes known from Dallas I think When there is blood on the moon death lurks in the shadows It was a western So my mom was pretty much saying if you do that I'm gonna end you Happy Mother's Day. Okay, nice

1:53:32 All right, we're going to do some international stuff. Yes I was just about to ask and i'm so tired of... A lot of stuff is being overlooked in fact Deutsche Welle has been running this story for over a week and now it keeps getting updated uh..I was gonna start with the clip about the second guy being arrested as a Nazi plot to set up the immigrants as murderers Now, now they're... I had to throw that clip away. Because now there's a third guy! So this is the German Nazi plot update. Oh, update? Oh, German Nazi plot...

1:54:10 Oh, yeah. I'm Brent Goff. It's good to have you with us. He was responsible for the hit list of people to be murdered. That is what police in Germany are claiming tonight following the latest arrest in the case of a suspected far right terror cell inside the German army. Authorities suspect the lieutenant helped another officer in a plot to assassinate top politicians and then blame refugees This is the third arrest in the investigation so far. Prosecutors say the names on that hit list included Germany's president." Their sights were set on former German President Joachim Gauck, as well as on Justice Minister Heiko Maas. Investigators found their names and a list of potential targets.

1:54:59 According to what we've discovered so far, the three suspects were planning an attack on the life of senior politicians and public figures committed to what the suspects considered to be misguided refugee and immigration policies. Police officers arrested a 27-year old lieutenant here in Kale on the border with France The arrest has raised concerns of a right-wing terror cell within the German armed forces. Investigators are searching barracks across the country for evidence pointing to right wing extremism or anything glorifying Germany's Nazi past. Investigators believe the suspects had cooked up a sophisticated plan to deflect attention. The evidence we've uncovered so far suggests Franco A was to execute the attack himself

1:55:47 It goes on, they go and show a lot of... What is this about? I mean why what do we know really. What we know is that this all stems from that, I don't know, maybe two weeks ago the guy was arrested for posing as a refugee and getting into the refugee system. Right yeah I know it happened but why? And apparently, I don't know, this could all be ginned up for all I know. Could be false flag boy! Well, if it didn't work. But the idea was to kill some of these pro-immigration guys which makes again if you think about this doesn't really make any sense let's kill pro immigration guys and then blame it on immigrants? That'd be kind of cool It's like what?

1:56:32 So the immigrants killed the people who want them in. Right, if it was... In fact the impact would be you kill people that were against immigration and then say oh look at these people against immigration are gonna get killed by these maniacs So, the whole... this story is not very uh... It holds no water. There's no there there! Well, it was something because they arrested three guys so far and now they're looking into getting rid of a bunch of senior officers and what they show in their videos is visiting a bunch of barracks and then latest is that some Soldier for example, my collectives are one of those old Nazi helmets. It's got that funny looking shield in the back You know they have the skirt it's kind like a skirt Yeah, yeah dog now if you got one of those and your obviously a plotter right-wing plotter Did you see that video? I think I sent you the link

CHAPTER 23 / 37 Discussion

Portland Grocery Store Confrontation, Confederate Rug

A viral video from Portland depicts a woman confronting grocery store employees over a Confederate flag rug being sold on the premises. The woman filmed herself accusing staff and shoppers of racism, leading to a heated exchange. The hosts compare the incident to a scripted episode of "Portlandia," noting the extreme emotional reaction of the shopper.

portland· confederate flag· social justice· viral video· portlandia

1:57:25 But that woman with two children who goes into a shopping mart and then sees... It's very good. You got to put it in the show notes, people need to watch this video. Yeah it doesn't work without the video but you have to see this. There are couple of clips there that could kind of work. The whole idea what really happened is you have to see the proximity of her to these guys and just I tried it believe me, I tried it didn't work for me. We have strict rules here on The No Agenda Show Well, so this woman goes into a grocery store that she shops at in Portland. It's Portland. It's the Portlandia store. It's almost like a scripted story She goes in there and she says oh my god There's a Confederate flag rug hanging on the wall that they were selling it. She never shows it in her clip

1:58:11 And so she starts making a big fuss about it. But she's doing this while filming, filming everyone in the store saying don't you think that's racist? That's racist and just goes on and on and then these guys are like hey why don't you f off Yeah, get out of here. Get out of here! So she leaves and yeah go ahead And so they call her a bitch and she bitches about that for incessantly and then she gets back to her car saying I'm never shopping here again nobody else should either and then as she puts her kids in the cars you got two kids with just me rolling their eyes at crazy mom and then this guy walks out of the store gets to pick up some

1:58:48 Some carts or something and she starts yelling at him. Don't come close Yeah, she's a my the guy is a mile away And so some woman comes in helps her and then she's just completely beside herself She's they attack me they attacked me a nervous breakdown it is a very Portland thing oh Okay, I didn't understand definitely well support let me this I thought it was episode of Portlandia I mean that's how bad it wasn't now I understand your comment because I have never seen portlandia So that's why I didn't understand what you were saying Oh yeah, no. Portlandia is about the insanity of the area and... You should definitely watch a couple episodes I have an update The domain has been now active in our DNS again I need to talk about this for second because this is the adverse and unintended consequences of the great technological society we live in Can you explain what happened? And I have huge gripe Okay go

CHAPTER 24 / 37 Discussion

Credit Card Declines, USPS Address Changes and Spam

The difficulties of updating personal information after moving are discussed, specifically regarding credit card declines for automated services. The U.S. Postal Service's "moveme.gov" system is criticized for being integrated with corporate advertisers like Lowe's and Bed Bath & Beyond. The hosts describe the process as a "seamless scam" that opts residents into receiving physical junk mail.

usps· credit card· address change· moveme.gov· junk mail

1:59:43 So there are two domains that we have hosted with one certain provider because they provide DNS Secure. And my personal credit card is on file and they tried to bill on May 9th, and it got declined. Why you ask? Well, that's because of course I moved and changed my address. And now I need to go think about every single place my card is used and have to change my address because it will now be declined Here are a couple gripes I have about that This building is a new development We were lucky to get in as if... No one has lived in this particular apartment previously That's always nice So I tried to chase... Actually went through this whole thing changing my address at the bank

2:00:30 And I couldn't change it. It kept saying that this address is wrong, and had to call them... Oh! It's usually one of the databases Yeah it's not in the database Right so therefore the web system said that's not possible you can't live there Okay so finally got that updated only on half of the stuff But here's what really irks me When you move in the United States, you can go to the US Postal Service which is a constitutionally installed agency and I think it's very good. And you can change say...I want my mail forwarded all my mail and if you have multiple last names you have to fill out more things and it's a scam of epic proportions that I do not understand why this is allowed and why no one ever says anything about it

2:01:20 Because you're on the U.S. Postal Service, say oh click here movemewhatever dot gov and then move me dot gov and then you fill out your information And it never at any point does it say hey great we gotcha confirmed you're good to go No! You get coupons Oh here select what you don't want Best Buy Bed Bath & Beyond Home Depot And you can get out of the loop you have to go through and yet define way down at the bottom no thanks How can the Postal Government Service be in cahoots with these a-holes? I'm trying to get away from postal spam. They're encouraging it! And you, and it's so seamless you don't even know what's happening before you know it You get coupons! Are you sure this was a dot gov? Yeah yeah oh yeah Lowe's all of this stuff 15% off coupon at Bed Bath & Beyond now I did opt in for that one but that's not the point

2:02:18 It's a seamless scam. They slip you right into it, and I don't know who approves this or how do we get on the list? You know what would you like a subscription to the no agenda show why not yeah that's a good point there's somebody doing the clearing for that stuff Yeah anyway so we're all we're good to go thank you void zero For rocking it they're helping me out staying in technology for a moment We're back. We've debunked it all. Can you imagine if there were a government agency and you had enough power that you could just kill somebody's DNS? That number is no longer valid ever, ever. They can totally have that kind of power. Yeah. It would happen. Remember with the Silk Road? Yeah. They were shutting off people's DNS left and right and you got a big FBI sign or DHS I think maybe. No, I think it was FBI.

CHAPTER 25 / 37 Discussion

Net Neutrality, John Oliver and FCC Title II

The debate over net neutrality returns as FCC Chairman Ajit Pai proposes rolling back Title II regulations. Comedian John Oliver's advocacy is criticized as a misunderstanding of network engineering, with the hosts arguing that "all bits are equal" is an inefficient model for services like telemedicine. The conflict is framed as a battle between ISPs and content giants like Netflix over peering costs.

net neutrality· john oliver· fcc· ajit pai· title ii· netflix

2:03:22 Alright, Democracy Now. Democracy Now had a little bit on the sanctimoniously smug John Oliver who is back again with his complete misunderstanding of net neutrality and its implications because of course we only expect the evil government to censor us, censor the internet which I think really they mean We don't want Netflix buffering. I think that's what people are really worried about and John Oliver did this whole thing if you recall a couple years ago about net neutrality completely off base, completely wrong yet heralded by everyone in the scientific community in Silicon Valley And certainly in government as the best explanation ever of net neutrality And it's bullcrap! It's total horse shite what he is saying Total

2:04:14 And I don't know if we need to go into it at all really, but we can highlight some of the things as we go through. Democracy Now's take on John Oliver doing net neutrality point version two and of course Judy thinks it's all very... not Judy what's her name? Amy. Amy thinks it's all very funny. Net neutrality is just a way of saying no discrimination, net neutrality is what... I'm sorry this is... That's not true No of course not! This guy is um..I'm sorry I should have mentioned who he is He's the CEO of....hmmm What is the name of this outfit? The Free Press! We've looked at them before

2:04:57 They're a lobbyist group. You can hire them as lobbyists, you hire this group and you can only imagine who's hired him for this that would be Silicon Valley. Net neutrality is just a way of saying no discrimination net neutrality is what ensures that when you go online you can go wherever you want do whatever you want Download whatever you want and it's not up to your cable company or the phone company to decide which websites and services are going to work, and which won't. Is that net neutrality John? Is that what is is? God I hope not! What is net neutrality then because this guy just spouted off some bull Well net neutrality... The idea of net neutrality is that all bits are equal

2:05:44 That's in a nutshell, all bits are equal. So whatever you ask for from your browser... Whatever it is you're gonna get with the same... What would you call it? The same priority. The same priority that's it! And is this efficient use of any network in the world ever? No no nobody... It's stupid. And why?! Why is it stupid famous example of priority my favorite examples the following which is that I'm doing remote medicine mm-hmm and I'm doing an operation a very delicate operation remotely yes, and I have

2:06:24 I have to have a little more priority than somebody watching a YouTube clip because the life and death situation is at hand, and I want my...I want priority for my bits. To do this operation over the YouTube bits! Yeah, what's wrong with that? No. You can't have that. But that's not net neutrality you can't do that! Because that stifling the free and open internet... What this is about and you'll hear it in this clip I think you're always right about this being about Netflix It's all about Netflix and Facebag We fought a fight—I've talked about it many times on this show, over 10 years—to push the FCC to pass strong net neutrality rules and have clear legal authority to enforce them. And the Trump FCC has really declared war on those rules. War! The chairman has said he wants to take a weed- I haven't declared war. There's no war here? These analogies have to stop.

2:07:20 Declared war. Yes, we're going to war! No he didn't the FCC just said we're getting rid of that I don't think there was war? The chairman has said he wants to take a weed whacker to them He's trying to undo the rules... He did?! He said that!? Yeah. Ajit- whatever his name is. He said he wants to take a weed whacker A weed whacker to the rules yes It's good though. I don't know if he actually said that, that is a good question. That is what everyone is claiming. He might have. A weed whacker to them and he is trying undo the rules passed at the end of Obama administration. Those rules were never put in place! Say again? Those rules passed at the end of the Obama administration were never put in place. No they were passed but never implemented.

2:08:01 Situation normals. Everything is the way it always has been and it never changed to them, It never changed with those Obama rules And what happened to the big browser history campaign? That faded away really quick Another rule that was put in place but that was signed but never implemented and everyone's just forgotten about that Now, where's the browser? I don't know. Because it's the meme fumes that all people... Oh! Trump trying to kill the internet. At the end of Obama admin- The Obama administration under the rules supported by millions and millions of Americans just to give Comcast Verizon and AT&T more ability to create special fast lanes for their own content To favor the content sites and services that they own or who they're in business with And cut off

2:08:50 competitors undermine the competition, make it harder for independent voices to be heard. Really damage... You know stop that thing for a second you know the funny thing about this is yes in theory whatever he says is true but there's no evidence of it! No There's little evidence of it I would say there's none let's put this way There is a complaint that floats around that Comcast refuses to play ball. I don't know if this is still true, this was from like a couple years ago. Com, which is during the battle that's really going on... Hold on one second! Just the genesis of it is very important The genesis of this problem was Reed Hastings whatever his name is from Netflix and he said

2:09:34 Ho, hold on a second. This is bullcrap why should I because it's all about peering and i don't think we have enough show to get into that but this is how the internet was born he said why should i have to pay extra to get onto Comcast network because they were saying you need to pay us extra for all that crap you're using on our network That's the genesis of it Yes, there's that element. And it is partly the Genesis because they're the ones who made the biggest fuss and everybody...it caught hold with the tech writers and so everybody got all worked out been out of shape because what was happening which was never discussed was that Comcast refused to use the appliances that were provided by Netflix.

2:10:15 Because Comcast had their own movie distribution system and they were using, they didn't want these Netflix appliances. And they were actually being more net neutral because the way they saw it was that in fact I think the biggest and I think I'm reminded of some of this stuff I've written, operations like Voodoo and some of these other movie operations, they don't have these appliances there's no net neutrality it seems to me when Netflix takes a box I don't know, petabyte in it or whatever all their most popular material and movies. And they drop it on at an ISP because Sonic.net has one of these and you drop it there and plug it in and the ISP has to pay a little bit for

2:11:01 the power that it takes to power the thing. It's not a small box, but it gets to serve movies direct Netflix movies directly from the ISPs home with their home base and what was happening here? And this was I think besides your telemedicine example you don't want any government regulating starting getting into regulation of it just know because before you know it and you remember that we looked at these rules and was terms like Illegal network traffic would not be allowed. There's all these little provisions which meant bit torrent, you can write that off... A whole bunch of things you really don't want but people are short-sighted and moronic! Cut off competitors undermine the competition make it harder for independent voices to be heard

2:11:50 Uh, really... And this! Oh, make it harder for independent voices to be heard. What? On Facebag?! Are you kidding me?? Yeah, uh damage the amazing tools that so many political organizers have used- Facebag!! To build social movements using the free and open internet No! Facebag!!! All of this is at risk if we lose net neutrality. Noooo, it's a risk John! The rea- We can't resist We can't resist if we don't have net neutrality. Here's what I want you to do while I play this second clip, because you hear a bit of Oliver's thing—I want you go look at my tweet from this morning. There are only two, I think, announcing the show and then one before that. Greg, I want to turn to FCC Chair Ajit Pai speaking at The Newseum last month during his speech on the future of internet regulation. He attacked your group Free Press.

2:12:34 Consider, for example the leading special interest in favor of Title II. A spectacularly misnamed beltway special interest called Free Press Its co-founder and current board member makes no effort to hide the group's true agenda While he says that we're not at the point yet where we can completely eliminate the telephone and cable companies, he admits that—and I quote—the ultimate goal is to get rid of the media capitalists in the phone and cable companies and to divest them from control. Craig Aaron, defend yourself Well, I appreciate being called the leading group. Besides that, you know, obviously this is the kind of sort of neo-McCarthyism and redbaiting that we thought we left in the past. The reality is that Free Press for 10 years has fought for the free and open internet, advocated for net neutrality. And there are thousands and thousands and thousands of pages filed at the FCC, op-eds published, emails sent

2:13:31 Our website is filled with content saying exactly why we stand where we do and exactly what we want, which is actually just the free and open internet. So if they want to go dig around the internet to find out-of-context quotes from one of my board members—I guess that says a lot about the chairman and his priorities—we're happy to have this fight and win on the facts." And you see the fight —and this is why I brought up The Adam Curtis Documentary Because it really focuses a lot around this that we are just pieces of cogs in the machine and this case It's it's all connected at Silicon Valley, but it's you know. It's Facebook its Google Its Twitter is read it But it's also the banks everything is connected

2:14:17 You know, right down to TRW who does your credit report. All these things are connected and they have total control over us and we're morons. Okay well just roll on the hamster wheel keep going! These all want to protect their turf, their entertainment based turf is what they want Now I thought i had left a piece of John Oliver in there but I guess it took it out because it was so boring But he did this bit and he says, look at these asshole ISPs who want to control everything. Then if you look at the graphic which popped up three times during the 10 minute piece missing from that picture is Spectrum slash Time Warner who owns HBO John Oliver's own damn station. Yeah what a dick? Yeah well I would agree with you yeah then yeah so everyone's evil except spectrum

CHAPTER 26 / 37 Discussion

Hypnotic Structure of John Oliver's Comedy

A psychological analysis of John Oliver's "Last Week Tonight" suggests the show uses a repetitive, hypnotic structure to influence viewers. By alternating 10 seconds of facts with snarky non-sequiturs and cued audience laughter, the show allegedly conditions the audience to associate derision with opposing viewpoints. This 20-second cycle is described as preventing rational processing of arguments.

john oliver· hypnosis· psychology· daily show· hbo

2:15:09 I have this, for people who watch John Oliver and like it. This is kind of an interesting little post that I picked up some time back and I don't even know where it came from but it was one of these from a chat forum I ended up pulling up an epi- this guy's going on back and forth. A subject of John Oliver came up with a colleague, a fellow psychologist as a couple professionals were discussing politics in a few months ago though we're both in agreement regarding the general shit lib insanity or inanity of the HBO show my friend was surprised when I explained that the real insidiousness of it is unmistakably hypnotic structure and pacing I ended up pulling up an episode or two of the YouTube. Oh, this is old analysis Yeah yeah We never read it on the show all of the segments i've ever seen from this show follow the same repetitive format

2:15:56 present some argumentation and facts for about 10 seconds, then quickly follow these up with a snarky quip which themselves are overwhelming take the form of complete non sequiturs or otherwise absurd metaphors. Before any rational processing of the preceding argument can take place in the mind of the viewer further telling is that the only beats or mental pauses in the show's pacing exist solely to highlight the approving laughter or applause of the studio audience. Repeat this basic formula without variation 20 to 40 times in a row and you have one of the 12-20 minute segments that form the backbone of the show. The end effect is obviously not to deliver information but rather, to literally teach the viewers on a subconscious level to mentally associate derisive laughter

2:16:41 with any person or opinion that is at odds with the narrative's take on the chosen issue. And it has accomplished this by maintaining a strict adherence to roughly 20-second cycle, in which stimulus is presented and response is cued." It's like doing a line of coke every 20 seconds! This is the sense in which this show is fundamentally hypnotic, even more so than its precursors in the genre. Daily Show, Colbert etc., and that's what he does. He prints something up then he has some crazy metaphor and everyone laughs because you know... And then it goes back and forth and back and forth. Putin's cock holster idea

CHAPTER 27 / 37 Discussion

FCC Comment Flooding, VPNs and Billboard Charts

The FCC's public comment system was flooded with automated messages following John Oliver's call to action, with some groups using VPNs to mimic individual users. Similar tactics are reported in the music industry, where fans of Harry Styles use VPNs to manipulate streaming numbers and Billboard chart positions. The hosts express skepticism regarding the "connected economy" and the ability to verify digital engagement.

fcc· vpn· billboard· harry styles· one direction· botting

2:17:24 Yeah, but that's not as structured. Goldberg stuff is not structured like this. These bits when you look at any one of them that Oliver does they're extremely structured. There are two stories about the...one about this and another one both about the people have no idea what's happening in the world around them when it comes to technology So, Oliver said hey everybody go flood the FCC's website and tell them that you want net neutrality. So he has a call to action some other group which I'm going to think is maybe not individuals who knows decided they were going to use they're going to inundate with basically kind of a denial-of-service attack almost

2:18:14 They're flooding the FCC websites with get rid of your dumb regulations. They're using VPNs, you know and so now it's like wow wait a minute this is not fair! It was like come on this is like the podcast awards all over again are you kidding me? You don't know how this works?! It turns out no because the same thing is happening with Billboard music chart Now billboard what's left of it They calculate their chart, their Hot 100 to a large extent based on money transactions which is streams played. So the diehard Harry Styles music fans... Harry Styles I think was from some boy band forget the name. Yeah, can't think of that name. Boy band. He was on one of the shows the other night and so now they're using VPN's- It's because he ran off with a blogger! And now they're using VPN everywhere

2:19:07 to stream his song thousands of hours to get it up the charts. One Direction, that was the name of it. And one direction. So you know and of course Billboard's like oh yes we have technology to combat tha- No! You don't! Ya don't...you have no technology to combat that ya know? It's my favorite GREP. Every VPN that uh..that you know just a whole bunch of grep pipes all one after another and out pops the list of truth. But you know, people have no idea what is going to happen to them! I'm very very bearish on the whole connected economy thing. Yeah? Well i'm not gonna take the other side... No, I wouldn't if I were you because there's plenty of evidence this won't end well

CHAPTER 28 / 37 Discussion

Television Industry Decline, Ad Prices and iHeartRadio

TV ratings have reportedly dropped 33% in the last four years, yet advertising prices have risen by 20%, creating a "bad deal" for corporations. Major radio groups like iHeartRadio and Emmis are facing massive debt and selling off stations as the market shifts toward digital content. The hosts discuss the "value for value" model as a sustainable alternative to the failing traditional ad-supported media.

television ratings· advertising· iheartradio· mitt romney· podcasting

2:19:54 Well, that's coming sooner than later when the bond collapse happens. I did have this little tidbit I picked up from RT. Humanity birthed the internet only a few decades ago and we still have yet to understand what we just did Just like when we flipped on the lights for the first time We had no idea what we just brought What we do know so far about the Internet though is that it's changing everything And according to Magna an ad buying agency owned by The Inner Public Group The Internet is wreaking havoc on the television industry They assert that TV ratings have dropped a whopping 33% in the last four years, which is nuts. And in the current TV season our big networks have lost 8 percent of their audience so fewer viewers than ever are tuning into The Idiot Box instead choosing to tune into the internet whatever kind of idiot box that'll turn out to be

2:20:45 And not only are people tuning out in droves, but also according to Magna ad prices have risen about 20% during that same period. So the TV industry is demanding more money from advertisers while offering fewer eyeballs to see their ads which is a bad deal for advertisers obviously so now they're starting to buy fewer ads and as a result ad sales in the US TV market are now beginning to slump And that's a big deal because advertisers keep the idiot box alive. That's who pays for all the shows, corporations who make ads to brainwash people into buying the crap during commercials and now they're starting not want to pay for those ads which means that TV industry looks like it's going to be next victim of the internet. It has been in very slow motion collapse and as predicted even though iHeart is...iHeart Radio was formerly

2:21:39 Clear channel. Right, thank you. Bought out by Mitt Romney's company, Bain Capital. Saddled with $24 billion in debt and we don't know how they're going to do but Emmes who also own a lot of radio stations they were selling off radio stations this week one after another just boom stock was going crazy it's probably not a bad time to dump them because the price of radio stations has not completely collapsed right But it but they're getting out where they can, but I've been doing a lot of interviews on podcasts in the past week or two because you were launching Yeah, launch my podcast Pro box. So what podcasts have you been on? I've been some Dutch podcasts. I've been on Todd Cochran from blueberry Been on The Podcast Pickle guy Gary the podcast pickle. Yeah podcast pickle guy he does the podcast movement and

2:22:33 Okay, yeah and so you know and every single one of them all talk about wanted how do you know there's no agenda? There's value for value. This is really incredible in there everyone starting to see the light especially now You know with the youtubers not getting any more money because hey it was only a matter of time before the advertisers woke up And went hey we live in a new world you can't put that next to anything edgy Yeah, they finally got their clue about brands and safe. Yeah brand safe content. Yeah, you can't do that It's you know this Or you say something funky and then people go after your advertisers. It's not the way to do it anymore, you can't monetize the open network. It just doesn't work as my mantra and people are seeing that look at it...it's failing! Now I'm not against advertising, advertising works in many different scenarios And I enjoy it often but don't tell me like you've got some secret great formulas working out well But living on it? No

CHAPTER 29 / 37 Discussion

Eurovision 2017 Predictions, LGBTQ Pride and Gay Bars

A listener asks for a "No Agenda" prediction for the Eurovision 2017 finals, with the hosts suggesting France as a likely geopolitical winner. The segment also covers a list of "rules" for straight allies attending Pride parades, which includes warnings against taking photos and using gay bars for "girls' nights." The hosts debate the concept of "appropriating gay culture."

eurovision· ukraine· france· lgbtq· pride parade· stonewall

2:23:32 You're always somebody's bitch. And if I want to be anyone's bitch, it's our producers. Well in fact we do have a few people to thank for episode nine... what is it? Two eights! Nine or two eights. Nine or two eight and we will begin with uh let's see what we got here We got whoop Bob, Sir Kevin Dills the Baron of Mecklenburg County is our high donor with...he says he's an ITM from Euroland. So he's not in Mecklenburg County Charlotte North Carolina, he's in Euroland. He wants some travel karma. He's a knight where we...he's established knight and so we'll give him that.

2:24:29 That's 12864 Charles Bennett from McCulloch, Idaho $101 and one cent Gaskin Garcia in San Ramon Cartago CR. I don't know Costa Rica $101 and he says here's my donation second donation a hundred one dollars after seven months of listening I need urgent deducing my friend Fra-Frabrizio needs to be called a douchebag. Because he still listens and he doesn't donate, thanks for the dose of sanity. I could get a little de-douched there... You've been de-douched! Alright, there you go. Onward with Sir Stuart Morrison in South Yara Australia Melbourne

2:25:17 Yeah, he wants some karma for his final exam to become an orthopedic surgeon in three weeks Yes will give that to you at the end. You gotcha sir Brett Mahoney and North Quincy Massachusetts 100 birthday James James on their list yeah James Blanchard we've got a huge list James Blanchard in Lafayette North Colorado 99 999 Anonymous 8483, you know who you are. Gilles Pavot in Paris France one of our few French listeners actually... Gilles! Not Giles. Gilles. If he's British might be He is in Paris. He says cheers How British does Pavot sound to you? Pavot doesn't sound but Cheers always sounds British to me. Who says cheers? Gilles de la Tourette Sir Peter

2:26:15 Bokelman. Oh, he's a Dutch in Houten. It is the woods What does he say? I was audited by the Dutch IRS and had to surrender my PayPal statements of the past 12 years under threat of flogging By my owners in the capital as I was trying to explain the mothership boarding pass like notice that what is this mothership boarding pass you're trying to claim I cannot help but notice my donations to your subversive enterprise had reached a total of over $2,000. I've been giving 3333 since 2011 I top it off with the boob 8008 and would like to be known as surrendered two slaves Surrendered two slaves To receive just adjust send us your cash jingle well how about that and he's uh?

2:27:09 So he gets a knighting and... He gets a baronet. Yeah, upgraded right away. Wow! That's fantastic. That is a good story. What is this? No agenda thing?! I know people want to send blankets or water Just send your cash. That IS a good story. Hey what is the- Hey tell me about this! What is this murder ship boarding pass you're trying to take off your taxes yes? That's my Dutch IRS accent, so pure impressed sir road wolf of the ton of Wanda uh, oh he came with our

2:27:47 Berkelman came in with a boob and so here's Sir Roadwolf of Tanawanda, boob. 8OOA, Jeffrey Steckroth, boob. I didn't even have a boob thing on this show on this last newsletter. The boob is strong John you don't need- Kevin Thomas Smyrna Georgia, boob Annie Lennon, boob He's she says biggest boobs ever. Nice. That's in Richie, a seven, seven, seven, seven from pine bluff, Arkansas, Kimberly Feliciano, seven, seven, seven, seven sir Brian green of hams is the 7373 and I gave Eric the

2:28:28 The his thing he put has no there's no note ever for Brian Green if Hamas is just this call sign which you should have put in there Oh as we say 73 73 to 5 alpha Charlie Charlie Adrian Drin Drinkin drinkin drinkin isn't drinking. Yeah, drinking she says happy birthday to me is she on a list mmM yep okay Don bean sir beans of the connective Conejos, Serbine of the Conejos. 69-69 very long note which we'll read to ourselves Paul Davies in Brisbane Queensland 66 I'm sorry well i need to read this note okay okay this is from Don Bean, Serbine of the Conejos

2:29:23 Uh, time sensitive. Greetings Abraham and Jedediah! This is my humble request to ask Adam to provide the annual No Agenda prognostication of the upcoming Eurovision 2017 contest finals this Saturday. This gay no agenda night will be joining- My preferred pronoun his thank you very much LGBTQIA community at the precinct downtown LA it's a gay bar To watch the show live stream on a big screen with big sound and big queens and bears I'm sure I must arm myself with no agenda perspective on the final 26 entrants, including the host country Ukraine and their feud with Russia effectively kicking them out of the competition that only DTBPITU can provide. To show a token of my appreciation for Adam's hard work and research, I offer up this contribution... ...of 69.69 because you can never get enough 69s And now, Adam

2:30:18 Regarding episode 9927, your Gucci short wearing rejection from the gay couple in your building. You remember the story John? Where I felt like a woman and the gay guys came... You were womanized! Yeah, it was-I was abused Yeah, you were. I say, let him see you all done up in decent threads hair just right on date night with the smoking Tina the Keeper walking arm and arm. I'm pretty sure you'll both get two thumbs-up and most likely a big smile to boot! Just a thought from The Other Side of the Rainbow. Honorably yours, Friend Of Dorothy. Alrighty...

CHAPTER 30 / 37 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Australia Trip and Ring Sizes

The hosts conduct a formal knighting ceremony for Sir Kevin of Derbyshire and Sir Peter Boekelman. They discuss the logistical challenges of planning a "No Agenda" trip to Australia, noting the high cost of flights. New knights are directed to the No Agenda Nation website to submit their ring sizes to Eric the Shill.

knighting· australia· eric the shill· sir kevin· sir peter

2:31:13 It's a friend of Dorothy. Well, let's give him the insight I have not followed a word of this Of course because they don't care about the Eurovision anything but you do i know You're a closet Eurovision fan So let's get just give us a quickie France Why? France needs it France needs it because we have The new guy in We need some solidification It is always geopolitical It can't be Ukraine Because they won That why it is host country It will not be Russia Because Ukraine kicked them out It's not going to be Britain because screw those. Well, it could be but they never win! They suck so bad that if they had one entrance... France is the one that makes the most sense and North Korea has got an entrant Are they in on the Eurovision? I'm not sure if they participate. But I would say France is my initial

2:32:04 Okay, that's my feeling so I would say France. Yeah alright We'll see Viva la France en Marche! It's on Saturday they say? yeah can't wait fabulous Onward Paul Davies in Brisbane Queensland 6666 David Ritchie 5517 Stephen Sour Steven Smith double nickels on the dime Glenn Spangler 5 4 3 2 Charles Couch in Broomfield, Colorado 5-2-8-0 call my friend Kyle out for being a douchebag. Got it James Frost in Lost Wages Nevada 5151 Kevin Derbyshire and Ajax Ontario California 5150 and he becomes a knight today after let's see he said my first donation was

2:33:00 February 17th, 2010. Right around episode 175! Wow... That's fantastic! It is. What do you call a night from a forgotten 6-plus year layaway plan? I don't know. Fortunate. William Miller. Now, these are Mother's Day donations so if there is a mom mentioned we'll mention her. This is from William Miller 5140 and my mother's day I did it but ah...I just want to take a hint donate mom of donate? Donate! Mom money tight time your hard. Times are hard. He uses the letter R. So they timer hard.

2:33:45 Get your effing Mother's Day. I don't know what he says. Here is your effin' Mother's Day card, wish I could afford to do more." No it's nice you'll appreciate it especially listening to boobs. Boobs yeah. Sir Vasquez in Denver, and it's a Mother's Day greeting from Sir Vasquez. Okay. William Murr in St Charles, Illinois 5140 nobody's mentioned to his mom Wardette Weiler or Willer if... And he's got what does he got here? As a devout dimension beer my mom would be horrified by this show keep up the good work! And happy Mothers' day to Kathy Lee all right Kathy Lee happy Mothers' day

2:34:32 Derek Boggs, Happy Mother's Day to my wife April and mother Barbara. Aaron Lambert in Tumwater Washington to Tana Lambert happy Mother's Day Joshua Dennis in Arrington BC and the BC is up he's at 5130 so he's underneath that's a birthday donation for his lovely wife Sandra This is a birthday, yeah okay. Onward the following people are $50 donors name and location we have very few of the Mother's Day ones I expect there'll be tons on Sunday. Yeah like oh crap hey mom i tried to do i tried to send you a card but you know this show was only on sunday okay all right perfect yep my Michael DiNapoli uh Bill Cameron Charlotte North Carolina Jesse Nolet in Arlington Texas

2:35:27 Basker Dandona in Birmingham, UK. Leon Stefanski in Swatham Norfolk, UK. Two Uks there? Lego Stefan... What is this? Stefanski? Leon Stefanski? Yeah, Leon Stefanski. I said Lego. You did! Richard Gardner. Kurt. parts unknown Josephus von Veldhoven in Eindhoven very good. Thank you Larry May hey, and hey Larry Hey, it's Larry Hey Stop stop for a minute just stop what's going on? Well? What's going on I have to kind of peer over the mic oh

2:36:19 Okay, and the mic is blocked so I'm only look seeing it through one eye well Maybe you shouldn't be laying down on the shades. Maybe you should sit up no Yeah, they'll finish it off Drew Mochak in El Cerrito over here. You should get in on the... We're going to do the train trip thing soon, David. So be on the newsletter. David Peet in Aubrey Texas and Kyle Meyer in Atlanta Georgia is our last guy. Yes okay very good thank you all so much everybody and also people who came in under $50 typically for reasons of anonymity sorry it's a lot of speculation about what's wrong

2:36:59 About what? About why you're having trouble reading some of the spreadsheet today. I always have trouble on the big read, I don't have trouble on the small read It's a big read, it's the big read does it every time Yeah, I get tired Hey but uh...I just wanted to mention quickly since we were planning this Australia trip well beside the fact that you are absolutely right The route I had set out is insane The cost of that is like 10 grand just for coach flights Well, that adds to the insanity. Yeah? Yeah so working on that day man well United States is one of the few countries in the world where you can bounce around It gets out cheap flights You can fly all over the place it really doesn't cost a lot you get to Detroit for very little money for example yeah But also once we had so this is not the same everywhere else We also had a lot of flights and just crazy So we're working on and we were pairing it down for obvious reasons pairing it down just stops my recommendation Little Crazy ah

2:37:56 Anyway, thank you again everybody. It's highly appreciated support us for the Sunday show in which I will be discussing more of the American Health Care Act we got some great feedback from our producers We just don't have time today can already see we're gonna run out and I really want to Take a little time because John you'll enjoy it as well, but supporters for that program on Sunday at the vorac.org slash and Everybody needs some karma certainly those who need four jobs jobs Jobs and jobs let's vote for job You've got karma Well quite the list today. We start off with Adrianne drinking and celebrates today I think Jim Burlingame's happy birthday to his son Jacob celebrated on the 5th of May Kimberly Feliciano Happy Birthday to her husband Tony Crowe Sir Fiber Knight celebrates two day Laura Wilson Happy Birthday to husband Austin celebrating tomorrow

2:38:55 Kevin Dills will be 31 tomorrow. Sir Brett Mahoney, 29 on the 13th. Sir Peter Beugelmann celebrating Joshua Dennis says happy birthday to his lovely wife Sandra on the 13th of May William Miller on the 14th and Paul Davis is happy birthday to his gorgeous wife Melissa celebrating her birthday in may 17 Happy Birthday from everybody here at The Best Podcast In The Universe One breath that's it just one breath come on come on come on come on props I need some props You feel good about it? Hey! That's right, he will become a knight. Uh... but we usually- well I guess they should have done it in different sequence so We do congratulate the future Sir Peter Belkamon with his baronet status on his 3333 layaway plan which means that is time to blade. Yeah close enough. Peter Belkamon and Kevin Derbyshire step on up to the podium gentlemen both of you have

2:39:55 completed your quests. That's right, first stop here is at the no agenda round table of the knights and dames you have both supported the program sufficiently so we thereby proudly pronounce the KD's Sir Kevin of Derbyshire and Sir Peter Boekelman. Gentlemen, for you we got hookers and blows... hookers and blows, rentboys in chardonnay, let's sling as whiskey and gunpowder brisket in brown ale malt vinegar manual transmissions fry bread and fem bots galah did diamond mean crickets and cream DMT and astral travel breast milks and pablum we got ginger ale and durable sparking cider nesquartz bong it's a bourbon vodka vanilla gaches and sake rubin s women rosé and mutton and mead

2:40:34 Head on over to noagenonation.com slash rings and that is where we will find a form for you to fill out with your ring size and get everything off to Eric the Shill. Thank you again everybody, it's really appreciated. Let me breathe. That was good! I have a number of SJW, BLM, LGBTQQIAAP stories we could handle. Well, I have some actual news that I want to get out of the way. Oh damn! Okay you and your news. News... yes me and the news. News that you will not hear in this country at all ever

CHAPTER 31 / 37 Discussion

Jakarta Blasphemy Case, Governor Ahok and Sharia Law

The Christian governor of Jakarta, Basuki Tjahaja Purnama (known as Ahok), was sentenced to two years in prison for blasphemy. The conviction stemmed from a speech where he quoted a verse from the Quran to criticize political opponents who used religion to sway voters. The case is seen as a significant indicator of growing religious intolerance in Indonesia.

jakarta· indonesia· blasphemy· ahok· quran· basuki tjahaja purnama

2:41:13 And this one in particular, the Jakarta blasphemy case is going on. The governor of the Indonesian capital Jakarta has been found guilty of blasphemy by Sukhi Jahiya Purnama who was Christian received a two-year jail term now it's a much harsher punishment than prosecutors had called for The trial was widely seen as a test of religious tolerance in the Muslim majority country Reactions there have been sharply divided Shocked and angry protesters shout for the release of Jakarta's Christian former governor. Basuki Chahaya Purnama, also known as Ahok was convicted of insulting Islam by quoting a verse from the Quran in a critique of a Muslim political opponent His supporters insist that conviction is a miscarriage of justice

2:42:06 We are disappointed. The law is blind, it can no longer tell between right and wrong. Ahok has sacrificed being governor and we accepted that now he's innocent yet accused of blasphemy. We're disappointed in the law in Indonesia Purnama was Jakarta's first non-Muslim governor in half a century. The court sentence is harsher than many expected, sparking concerns about growing religious intolerance in Indonesia. Minorities including Christians have been increasingly targeted

2:42:48 Outside the courtroom, conservative Muslim groups said Purnama should be punished even more harshly for his comments. Two years is very lenient in my opinion for Purnama compared to the pain of Muslims and the sacrifices made by Muslims including the nation that was almost wrecked by the crime of Ahok the Blasphemer Thousands of police officers were deployed to prevent clashes between critics and supporters of Purnama. The former governor says he will appeal the verdict Now, what exactly did he do? Well don't forget it almost brought down the government. The whole country! Great crime... okay I have the verse

2:43:36 Curiously, wait a minute. You're gonna you're gonna repeat the same thing that almost brought down Indonesia on them It's great pain to them way. Wait, are you good? Are you gonna you're going to repeat that here on this show putting our show at risk? I don't think it's going to put the show at much risk. So here is what he did, the guy that is running against him, the guy who ran the place Jakarta and so the guys started throwing the Koran at voters because this place was largely Muslim and they had to obey this one and so he repeated himself criticizing the guy for using it Oh you who have believed, do not take the Jews and Christians. This is 5,5 I'm sorry, 5,52 You guys can look it up as under the Quran Al-Karim Do not take the Jews and Christians as allies They are in fact allies of one another And whoever is an ally to them among you then indeed Is one of them Indeed Allah guides not the wrongdoing people

2:44:42 So what he said was that The guy running it says, hey you're a good Muslim. And he started reading these kinds of things. There's a lot of anti-Christian and anti Jewish stuff in the Quran if anyone wants to read it. No one does. They were using that as leverage to get to win the vote so this guy reads from the Quran which I guess is using against the guy, using the Quran I guess as a weapon was the blasphemy that almost brought down the country. Oh interesting! Huh, no you wouldn't hear that. And this brings me back to that Curtis documentary where he showed that the whole idea of Sharia law and suicide bombing as suicide is expressly forbidden in the Quran That it was Ayatollah Khomeini The supreme leader of Iran who started with this and said hey You know what? It's okay now

CHAPTER 32 / 37 Discussion

Cinco de Mayo, Battle of Puebla and Cultural Appropriation

The historical significance of Cinco de Mayo is explained as the Battle of Puebla, where the Mexican army defeated French forces. The hosts discuss a viral video of a "social justice warrior" harassing a man for wearing a poncho on the holiday. They argue that the holiday has become a target for claims of cultural appropriation despite its role in North American history.

cinco de mayo· battle of puebla· cultural appropriation· social justice· mexico

2:45:38 They and they started by I think they would they took young boys Into Afghanistan to walk across the minefield to blow themselves up so the Iranian army could then run through it Yeah, holy moly cheap yeah But why not use the girls? Why use the boys is nuts well here. Well there's that So anyway, so there's a story that won't be... No. That's really good. It will never show up in American media because well you know it shades some bad life to put the bad light on the Muslims and we're not like that anyway. We made a huge mistake. We are guilty of huge cultural appropriation I feel extremely bad about it You probably feel worse about than I do. We appropriated Mexican culture

2:46:31 by celebrating Cinco de Mayo with money, no less. I mean this is really... What is actually what is Cinco de Mayo? Why did the Mexicans celebrate it? Cinco de Mayo was the Battle of Puebla which was the first time that Mexican army beat back the French Army which was planted in Mexico to take over southern parts of United States if you want to really look at from an old conspiracy The British were going get top half of the United States and the French were getting bottom half of the United States which they used to own and had big pieces of, and that was the idea because it was assumed by the Europeans that the United States would be split in half permanently. And then they could easily be overtaken by the influences of the French and British, and they could also get the gold in California which is what they were after. Oh okay this is good! In other words we as Americans have plenty reason to celebrate Cinco de Mayo whether its a Mexican celebration or not?

2:47:25 They have more reason because they saved our ass we saved her ass well I didn't really save anybody's ass, but they did a good job of winning this one battle the battle Listen if it weren't like that mean you might have armpit hair come on there. You go. It's possible well You sir because you because you know the history would be allowed to wear a colorful poncho on Cinco de Mayo in celebration however if you're just some Crazy white dude roaming around the streets having a good time. You know like we do with St Patrick's Day I'm not Irish but green beer, put green on we drink beer repute green you know this Chicago River It's all cultural appropriation

2:48:07 As witness to social justice warriors attack a young man who's quite calm actually. Who is really like, what is going on here? He's wearing a poncho in Santa Maya celebrating in the streets like everybody else but no! My name is Michael I am not making a racial statement. I'm celebrating a holiday and having fun. I'll say it to the camera everyone Every person every color no matter what they are I'm having fun. I'm celebrating and I'm telling you that this is not the appropriate way to celebrate a holiday You're taking it a step too far, and I think you're making too big of deal out of it so I hope That's how you feel about it because part of that. I hope we can agree to disagree. Why? I'm being peaceful, I'm not offending anybody so whatever. This stuff actually affects people's lives and i don't think you understand this.

2:48:56 perpetuating the stereotype. It's about you as a man, right? A white man who has a privilege in this whole fucking country knowing what is happening in this country right now. I am very aware of what is happening. How is this celebrating? It's single and demile! No! Do you even know what the holiday means? Can you tell me the history behind Sinkhole? That is not celebrating! You get the idea. It's just insane. Is great. Coming up in about a month, five weeks you have the big gay pride- I'm sorry oh wow woo The Pride

CHAPTER 33 / 37 Discussion

Pride Parade Etiquette, Cisgender Allies and Stonewall

A detailed memo for "straight allies" attending Pride events outlines six rules, including not treating the event as a spectacle and avoiding bachelorette parties in gay spaces. The hosts analyze the tension between the LGBTQ community and "cisgender" observers. They question the exclusionary nature of the rules given the public nature of city parades.

pride· stonewall· cisgender· lgbtq· san francisco· bachelorette party

2:49:37 You just said it's called pride. Pride... But you said big gay? I know, I said big gay pride parade is what i wanted to say wrong pride they we have pride coming up in San Francisco There's no gay involved in this anymore? Yeah but it's LGBT BBQ the whole thing so oh but uh the gay community used to be gay yeah the lgb the LGBTQIAP community has a memo Oh! To straight allies that would be us John We're allies of the gays I'm not an enemy. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, I better be an ally! Okay well you better adhere to these six rules... I will follow the rules that went through the letter Dear straight allies please don't come to pride until you've understood these six things Are you ready? Be careful John okay we hold pride each summer to commemorate the Stonewall riots of 1969

2:50:34 The first, well here it is. The first pride was a police riot at the time most states had laws banning LGBT people from assembling in groups despite being illegal the mob opened LGBT bars to profit off the open discrimination of our community. The bars were the only safe space for LGBT people and were frequently raided by police officers looking for bribes and I think blowjobs Tired of harassment and discrimination, the patrons of the Stonewall protested and began a series of actions that turned into several days of riots. At its peak more than 1,000 people took to the streets of Greenwich Village in one of the first organized displays of LGBT protests The most transgender patrons of color at the Stonewall are credited with starting the LGBT civil rights movement

2:51:21 So you'll see sequins, rainbows, parade floats pool parties sponsored by Absolute. But understand that Pride is equal parts a celebration of protests and the community building event it's the one time year we can come together and be surrounded by the family we choose because our bodies in our identities are still policed by the government religious groups even people we love We reserve pride as the opportunity to express ourselves in the way that is most authentic to our community Sometimes that's by drunkenly singing Robin songs at the top of our lungs and sometimes it is by crying during the eulogy for our murdered trans sisters. We are allowed to have multiple feelings simultaneously as we celebrate our wins and mourn our losses as a community." So you remember that! Can I ask you question? Please The San Francisco Pride Parade will take place June 24th through 25th The Stonewall Riots were on June 28

2:52:17 This doesn't sound like much of a match. Maybe it's not a good day, maybe they need to do the weekend. At Queens, the Kings Day is not the king's birthday any day and that's okay I'm okay with that but this is one for you Dvorak The 28th is a Sunday Oh no I'm sorry I'm looking at the wrong month Okay maybe that's the reason Number two! Kinda that time Number 2 A dyke bar during pride is NOT the place to look for your unicorn This apparently is egregious. As a fem- I don't know what they're talking about! As a femme presenting queer woman, i've been hit on by cisgender men and couples in queer settings more times than I can count Some queer women are attracted to men some aren't We go to LGBT spaces to be around other LGBT people and celebrate our identity with people who are like us

2:53:04 Sure, there may be people... Isn't that discriminatory kind of? Well you can join but you can do this. Sure there maybe people who are interested in your advances but there will also be people who will be offended and made to feel unsafe Pride should first and foremost be a safe space for LGBT people Keep this in mind and consider arranging your menage-a-trois with folks who say they're interested online before the events So don't try and go pick up bisexual women for the threesome Do not- I don't think that's gonna happen anyway. I don't think so either, number three... And by the way these threesomes aren't that common but anyway go on and i hear they're overrated Go on Number three do not take pictures or snaps of us without permission

2:53:50 Now this is a tough one. This is why people go. Yeah, you know, I'd say that's right but you're parading down the street and isn't it a parade for taking pictures? You're going to see leather folks drag performers transgender people non-binary people nakedness exhibitionists neck nakedness gender fuckery and some wild outfits we're not here to be a spectacle for you We're here to celebrate with folks who are like us Don't post photos of us on social media as a way to be edgy or to show your superior open-mindedness. And don't make fun of us on the internet, we do not exist for your amusement! Okay... Ready for it? Number four? By the way that last one number three aint gonna happen go on. Well there it is number 4 If you're thought process is quote gays are okay but I dont get the whole trans thing

2:54:47 Don't come to pride That's interesting. Yeah, maybe you want to go learn about it possible now this one I agree with number five so there's gonna be a lot of guys okay? I yeah going just just write down the rules and follow them don't know I'm not writing nothing Pride is not the appropriate venue for your girls night, your bachelorette party or your misogyny. Now I agree with this, I see this. So now I have to assume by that particular edict that a lot of that's going on? Yes, I think this is going on. Lots of straight women have told me they love going to gay bars because they can dance and celebrate without the presence of come-ons from men

2:55:30 I've seen drunken sorority girls climb on stage and attempt to make the show about them. I've seen women get a bit too intoxicated and attempt to make out or grope gay men slurring, you're gay so it doesn't count! That's a good one by the way You're gay so it doesn't count! I have seen equally disgusting actions with gay men and lesbians So let's not pretend Disgusting sorority girls Yes This happens This happens. Anyway, uh six in the final one there you're a guest in our space act accordingly! Uh it's their city property seems to me isn't? It the important takeaway here land the important takeaway here is not that LGBT people hate straight or cis folks yes they do from that list seems like it not even about the presence of straight or cis folks at pride in general they really don't want us there

2:56:23 It's about when straight or cis folks behave in inappropriate and cultural... CIS FOLKS. Cis folk, I'm a cis folk. behave in inappropriate and culturally insensitive ways that threaten or dampen the experiences of LGBT people at events that are made for us in the first place. Straight slash cis folks can go to any party and feel comfortable dancing, holding hands and making out with their significant other or hottie of the night without feeling they could be endangered because of their identity. LGBT people do not always have that luxury if you choose to go to Pride, be a supportive observer and participate in activities but don't try to be the focus of the event Man, there's a lot of... So really the way I read this is there's a huge presumption. There's a...I guess they feel like people are trying to appropriate gay culture. Hello? There you go! I just appropriated gay culture but just by doing that alone right there that it but that gay culture is very important

2:57:25 It, I mean... Apparently it should stay within the gay community. 30 years after two snaps and a Z formation! Come on that has influenced culture to the extreme but we can't do that now because we're appropriating your culture? And who are you to tell me how i celebrate my sexuality maybe I'm one of you and don't want to tell You know there's a whole bunch of things this is fucked It is. And I'm disappointed in this! Burn the list! I'm sure these people don't represent the whole LGBTQQIAAP community or its allies... These are the uptight gays Yeah, it's-it's This is not American what you're doing right here We know how to party with gays we're good at it, we like it It's the one time when cis folks get to be crazy like you I think we're secretly a little envious

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Tennessee Same-Sex Divorce, Husband Rights for Women

A Knox County judge in Tennessee granted a woman the "rights of a husband" in a same-sex divorce and custody battle. The case involved a child conceived through artificial insemination and tested the application of traditional marriage laws to same-sex couples. The hosts discuss the legal and sociological implications of assigning gendered roles in court.

tennessee· supreme court· divorce· custody· artificial insemination

2:58:18 I don't even go to the event. Come on, too much traffic problems you can get over you can't get back forget it Okay well as long the same line the only oh okay have one more Another gay thing another social justice something that affect what social just not something that affects us there was a Supreme Court Tennessee Supreme Court case about saying a same-sex divorce and And so one of the women had gotten artificial insemination and so they came, I'm just paraphrasing. It came down to a custody battle and at a certain point came the equivalency of the husband role because in divorce with custody rights

2:59:15 It's very clear between a man and woman, but not so between two people of the same gender. And now the Knox County judge granted one of the women... ...the rights of a husband! Which means that's a thing that can be given away. You know what I'm saying? This is really weird. I don't know they gotta do something to base it on laws in their area Yeah, but how can you grant a woman the rights of her husband? Well did she want to be the husband? Well she said that she performed as a husband. Okay then so she gets the rights I mean it's what she wanted and that's what...I don't see what the problem is Alright! I just wanna make sure we all know whats happening here It's a little mind meldy Why does it even have to based on that at all? Welp thats another question That's a sociological issue not a legal issue What your just said Okay You're up

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Betsy DeVos, Bethune-Cookman University and Booing

Education Secretary Betsy DeVos was loudly booed during a commencement speech at Bethune-Cookman University, a historically black college in Florida. Students turned their backs as she spoke, following her previous controversial comments regarding "school choice" and the origins of HBCUs. The university president threatened to mail degrees to students if the disruption continued.

betsy devos· bethune-cookman· school choice· florida· graduation

3:00:13 Betsy DeVos. She gives a speech and she gets booed, and then the slave they get then they wait then they do us shut up slave moment everyone shuts up Dr. Jackson Board of Trustees thank you so very very much for this great honor and privilege I am honored to become a Wildcat In Daytona Beach, Florida many graduating students booed or turned their backs on Education Secretary Betsy DeVos as she spoke today at Bethune-Cookman University. In February, DeVos said such historically black schools were pioneers in school choice She later acknowledged they were established because African Americans were banned

3:01:02 from many colleges. At one point the university president warned the crowd that if the booing continued their degrees would be mailed to them it's exciting after that oh boy and this was a black college yeah small black college fabulous way to go way to go everybody we have never been so divided as as a universe well they're doing it on purpose Yes, they are. Damn it I'm not gonna get to my crazy Trump thing again! I have one kind of a crazy clip... All right this will be the last one so make it count This is how long is that? This clips a little long I'll save this for the next show. I got the no-fly zone thing oh I was watching there's a play the VW dividend this is a great way to get around a problem when your stock is collapsing because you're getting these billions of dollars in fines

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Volkswagen Dividend, Dieselgate and Helena Humphrey

Volkswagen announced a significant increase in its dividend despite the ongoing "Dieselgate" scandal and billions in fines. The hosts also comment on Deutsche Welle anchor Helena Humphrey, noting a change in her on-air presentation. They discuss the financial strategy of increasing dividends to stabilize stock prices during corporate crises.

volkswagen· dieselgate· dividend· helena humphrey· deutsche welle

3:01:58 Dieselgate. He said he would ask the board to increase the company's dividend this year from 11 cents to 2 euros per share. That would mean VW pouring out 20% of its profits in the future that could even reach 30%. It's some comfort to Wow, did the stock spike? Did it go crazy on that news well. That's great news It's definitely yeah didn't go down so the reason I was getting having this because I was watching DW and they brought back Helena your buddy Helena Humphrey oh Okay, she said when I get all bent out of shape because we were commenting on her appearance as TV executives Yeah, she's verified on Twitter So she's a big deal

3:02:42 Yeah, well she was following me I noticed so i followed her back. She follows me she follows me So I was watching I was watching your latest stuff and she's got like these shoes you've got a mouth that's very similar to Anne Hathaway big luxurious lips I think it's part of her attraction. And, I noticed that she wasn't standing in the dress anymore She did some standing but was in pants Oh no! No she heard our show and was like...I'm not gonna dress like that anymore I'm wearing pants now Well no, she is still wearing those dresses because But she sitting behind the thing Although I looked at some of her feed on Twitter and she has stood a couple times Is she smacking her lips? No, I don't think so That would be something..No, she doesn't smack her lip

3:03:27 Lot of these if the guy who rules that the anchor on DW really smacks his lips a lot I did you have anything from hell Helen or is uh no? No, I tried to find something but you know she's been very yeah. Oh wow okay. Yeah, I don't have anything That's all right Zen as Helena Helena. That's what I mean Helena Everybody okay, let's see what happens today being show day always something cool or crazy that could go down We appreciate the firing in between shows. That was good that was much easier for us So keep this timing up everybody is good yeah right now. It's a beautiful and I see thanks to we have UK PMX Danny loose Brian longenecker and the classic cast of thousands were the end-of-show jingles

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Show Outro, Cluedio and Comey Remix

The show concludes with a discussion of the new "Cluedio" studio setup in Austin and a final sign-off. An audio montage features various clips from the episode, including James Comey's "Lordy" comment and Hillary Clinton's "request for absolution." The hosts remind listeners to support the show via the value-for-value model.

cluedio· adam curry· john c. dvorak· james comey· hillary clinton

3:04:19 Including a revamped version of the Cluedio. Yay, now you're talking! Alright? Coming to you from the Cluedio here in the Common Law condo in downtown Austin-Tejas, FEMA Region 6 On the map if you're looking for me in a crisis. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where there's gonna be a pleasant day probably too windy...I don't know why i'm giving weather reports all the time but I think people are interested! I'm John C Dvorak that's right with weather and traffic on The 8th We are the best podcast in the universe will be back on Sunday remember us at dvorak dot org slash na until then adios mofos yeah was thinking what I would name it but uh recludio that's what I have now

3:05:15 Oh, I thought you mentioned you didn't have a clue. I got it. There's some jargon... Some sort of hipster jargon for clue. There's a place that's on- There is a studio in the closet It's pretty sizable! That's where i am The new studio is IN the closet I'm getting there, come and come run It's all I need Feels so good If I just say the word How big IS this closet? Just say the word Five feet by- That's great detail Good Great Detail

3:06:30 I also want you to know that I am supporting Emmanuel Macron. These friggin' smug bastards follow stuff on El Grip for real good, El Grip for shit fucks. Smug bastards in detail. For real good, El Grip. Here's all these porno over here but let's talk to the rich marketing executives I'm a bastard, refreshing for Elkhood. And I need my monster for gravy grail. My goodness! Lordy! The machine... I can't remember the words. I can't master it. I think that is the first time you've ever used that word. Good. Refresh my Elkhood machine.

3:07:17 Good. Good. Good. Do you have any regrets or are there anythings you would do differently? Yeah, the honest answer is no. I've asked myself that a million times because Lordy has this been painful

3:08:05 The only thing I regret is it may be answering the phone when they called to recruit me to be FBI director and i was living happily in Connecticut. Hollywood access tape being made public? The Russian theft of John Podesta's emails hit wiki leaks. Request for absolution... A request for absolution... Request for absolution! What did she do?! What did she- what did she DO?! Hollywood access tape what a coincidence What a coincidence Of course, that was no coincidence. What a cool what a coincidence That of course I was no coincidence So, I mean you just can't make this stuff Oh No, so I mean you just can't make this stuff up

3:09:10 So, I mean you just can't make this stuff up. Oh yeah you can. She's very good at making it up. Of course we did! Of course? Of course! Request for absolution. Lordy, lordy, lordy... Lordy that would be really bad! Look this is terrible it makes me mildly nauseous but I sat there that morning and i could not see a door labeled no action here

3:09:52 There's no Anthony Weiner statue, but it is. There's already a statue. Well maybe we need one. Lordy! Lordy! Senator, if I said that I misspoke she forwarded hundreds and thousands of emails some of which contain classified information. Made of stone? Zombie armies?! I love this work. I love this job. You're fired. You know what? You're fired. Lordy that would be really bad. You know what? You're fired. Lordy that would be really bad. You know what? You're fired. Lordy, that would be really bad! You know what? You're fired And so they came in and said we can see thousands of emails from the Clinton email domain including many many many from the Verizon Clinton domain Blackberry domain They said we think we got to get a search warrant to go get these You know what? You're fired Lordy that would be really bad!

3:11:04 You're fired. Lordy, that would be really bad! You know what? You're fired. on the Attorney General, Loretta Lynch who I like very much. Her meeting with President Clinton on that airplane was the cat purr for me. Somehow her emails are being forwarded to Anthony Weiner including classified information. You're fired! Thanks Obama! The best podcast in the universe! Devorak dot org slash N A Adios mofo My millennials stay woke