Meme Fumes

00:00 Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Sunday, May 7th, 2017. This is your award-winning Gimbal Nation Media Assassination Episode 927. This is no agenda. Reading the American Health Care Act so you don't have to and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet here in the capital of the drone star state in the Cluedio of the common law condo. Good morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where I suspect there's a scam afoot. I'm John C. DuBois. Uh oh. A scam is afoot.

00:38 Yes, what's up? What's up with your scam? Wait? No no no no no stop stop stop stop. I didn't say anything I don't know I'm making sure you don't say anything at all okay. Congratulations Thank you. Yes, I didn't do any work, but I know of course you didn't of course you did now I know he's new but does your brand-new grandson have a name yet? No, he doesn't Something about these millennials, they like to put off naming a kid. In fact, I was having a meal with some friends and one of them said they know a millennial friend of theirs who hasn't named the kid for, it's been a month, over a month. Really?

01:18 What is wrong with these children? I think they want the kids to name themselves Yeah, well and then choose their gender exactly is it name or gender first? That's the question now. Don't they know as far as I'm sure as long as they don't name the kid Cody Are and now have they just lost our Cody listener? Oh our Cody listener? What do you mean? We have a we have Cody's out there listen to the show well, so here's the question are they And now have they confirmed the gender yet? I mean do they agree it's a boy being Millennials. They seem to yes, it is a boy Now they didn't know that that what they were having if I recall correctly for some unknown reason. This is right Wow and are they happy with their surprise? It's a good-looking kid. Yeah, okay good look at 9.9 pounds though. Holy crap. Yeah poor Jesse

02:13 Yeah, and you saw how big she was I need some questions questions answered did she I know that she and buzzkill jr. A little crunchy granola kind of a little bit Did does she go for the epidural? I don't know what what? I don't pry into what they did. This is very important. These are things we all need to know. Why? Are you worried about getting one? No. I just, I love it when women go in, I'm not going to take any drugs, it's going to be natural. And then at a certain point it's like, give me, wait, no. At a certain point, it's like, give me the epitaph, I want drugs! And at that point it's too late, they can't have it. And I find that always humorous.

02:57 Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. It's sick. All right. Well, happy grandson. Congratulations on Sanco de Mayo, no less. Yes, it's a Sanco de Mayo baby. Isn't that fantastic? So they'll always be dancing in the streets on his birthday. Oh, man. That's right. Well, very nice. Very nice. Very happy for you. And for them, of course. I know you're really thrilled. Yeah. I can tell. I know. But 9.9, I remember I was 9 pounds, I think 7 ounces or something. My mom hated me for a while. And I came out with a completely, you know, like squished face. Yeah, yeah, that can happen. Still that way kind of, I guess.

03:46 Okay, so it is a show day, which means something big is happening and we have the election à la France taking place in the Euroland. Yeah, they decided to have it on our show day. I think that was weird. Well, it's kind of them, you know. I think the first results will come in, you know, in the last hour of the show. So we will be able to, uh... Now there's a lot going on of course right in this, in these last few moments. Let me give you a little background to hear on the election. It is unusual for a former president or a current president to weigh in on a foreign election, particularly a European election, but President Obama has done that, endorsing one of the candidates. It's a sign of just how much is at stake. Isn't that called meddling in someone else's election when you do that? Yep.

04:35 This is a campaign marked by candidates who are polar opposite. Actually, I'm going to switch to a different background. I always have her barking. I'm going to switch to a different background. This one's a little better. France is choosing who will be its next president. The two candidates, centrist Emmanuel Macron and the far-right Marine Le Pen, have proposed very different visions leading up to the final second round runoff. He's not a centrist, he's a European, what do you call him? A pro-Europe? A technocrat. And he's definitely a technocrat. Yeah, he's a globalist. Just call it what it is. Despite the inclement weather across much of the country on Sunday, turnout in French presidential elections is traditionally high, with more than 40 million people expected to vote.

05:22 This woman said I'm worried for my grandchildren, I'm worried for the world, I'm worried for the future. I'm actually very worried, I must say. Security surrounding the vote remains a major concern following the terror attacks in Paris and Nice. More than 50,000 police and army officers are on duty. Early estimates of the results are expected at 8pm. 8 p.m. local time. And so that would be around 1 p.m. here, so we'll get some of those results. It brings up a phrase I want to mention for the word collections. Worrywart. Worrywart, yes, very good one. I actually had a phrase from the Shays, which I'm saving for later in the show. Let's play the jingle.

06:00 That's why, yeah. So a lot of interesting things happening at the very last minute. Some documents were leaked out. It's a complete fractal of WikiLeaks in the last... I'm sorry, I should say Russian WikiLeaks. Yes, Russian WikiLeaks. In the last hours, we have suggested tax evasion documents, a lot more insinuations that he's gay, he's on a gay mailing list. Woo! And an aide of his buys hard drugs with Bitcoin and it doesn't get much better than that. Yes, it actually does. You get President Obama. I'm not planning to get involved in many elections now that I don't have to run for office again. Only the ones that pay me handsomely for doing so. But the French election is very important to the future of France and the values that we care so much about. Oh, it's important to the values because we can't have the Nazi person winning.

06:53 Because the success of France matters to the entire world. Oh really? Does it really matter to the entire world? I'm asking you, Jim. Do you think it really matters? I'm trying to answer. I don't think so. I mean, we like our champagne. I think it matters to Europe. I think it matters to maybe preventing World War III, which is whatever happens is going to happen. We like our champagne, our cognac, we like our brie, we like our fromage. I don't know if that's that important. I have admired the campaign that Emmanuel Macron has run. He has stood up for liberal values. He put forward a vision for the important role that France plays in Europe and around the world. And he is committed to a better future for the French people. He appeals to people's hopes, and not their fears. Because of how important this election is, I also want you to know that I am supporting Emmanuel Macron to lead you forward.

07:53 En Marche. What a patronizing, arrogant, smug bastard. Well you're stepping on the best part because he says that and he follows it up with... ...reporting Emmanuel Macron to lead you forward. En Marche. Vive la France. En Marche. Hurry up French slaves. Vive la France. En Marche. Papa a fait une pipe. Maman, pipapa. En Marche. Really? Viva la France. Viva la France. Viva la Freedom Fries. It's like Putin coming on our TV and making a big announcement. Well, he's getting blamed for that stuff. Putin's getting blamed for this email hacking. Well, this thing by the way, yeah, I know, of course he is. Of course. But this thing going on with Obama. Putin! I don't see how that's any different than, you know, if Putin did anything, which I don't think he did, but

08:43 I don't think he did the email thing with France either. Why bother? It is the exact definition of meddling in affairs. Here's to me the summary clip of what is wrong with the thinking and it's going to bring down the... I mean, the EU makes no sense to me when you listen to this clip. This is the clip that says Le Pen's. This is an update. Last update. This was on PBS NewsHour. Very well. But nationally, it's not looking good for her at all. All the opinion polls suggest that Emmanuel Macron is going to win by a majority of 60 percent to 40 percent.

09:18 The Yonde Valley is one of the poorest districts of rural France. The lack of job prospects has forced many residents to move away. Le Pen's Frexit plans worry marketing executive David De Silva, and so he'll vote for the pro-European candidate Emmanuel Macron. We have access to everything, a great marketplace, and it would be a shame to lose that. Today, we obviously can't live without Europe. One of the most important factors in this election is the large number of undecided voters if millions abstain it could benefit Marine Le Pen Restaurant workers Joanna Touloir voted for left-winger Jean-Luc Melenchon in the first round and now faces a major delay. Isn't he one of our barons Melenchon? Oh, I'm sorry. Hey, wait a minute. I know that guy

10:12 If the Republicans abstain, it could benefit Marine Le Pen. He's a duke. He's a grand duke. Yeah, exactly. Restaurant worker Joana Touloir voted for left-winger Jean-Luc Mélenchon in the first round and now faces a major dilemma. How come Macron didn't get a Nobel Peace Prize before this election? Isn't that kind of the fractal? No, he didn't get it right after the election. Oh, right after the election. I don't feel understood by either side, because with Emmanuel Macron, it's all about capitalism and speculation. And Marine Le Pen, it's her family history of being on the extreme right. We've already been through this.

10:53 There's an undertone of defiance and maybe even desperation amongst the front supporters, as they chant, we will win. In order for Le Pen to enter the presidential palace, there'll have to be a political surprise of Brexit or Donald Trump proportions. And that's the mantra to which parliamentary candidate Julia O'Doul is clinging. Because she's the only one who speaks to the French, the only one who speaks to the forgotten ones, all those French who've been abandoned for decades. France's national anthem, written in the 18th century, is all about conflict. If Marine Le Pen upsets the odds and wins on Sunday, France and the European Union will face a major upheaval.

11:35 But the pollsters believe French voters want stability and will follow the Dutch in rejecting right-wing nationalism. For the PBS NewsHour, I'm Malcolm Brabant in the Yon Valley. Now this guy listed a couple of things here. First of all, this guy is a very slanted reporter. Yeah, this guy. Why? Is he Chinese? What are you saying here? Adam at curry.com. I couldn't resist. He says he had this report, just a piece of a longer report. And he says, notice that there's no multicultural people here. And he was out in the middle of nowhere in some countryside and there was no anybody but a bunch of white folks. And that was kind of just a cheap shot. But at the very beginning of the report, it was the giveaway that just, I just shook my head and saying, what kind of thinking is this?

12:35 We're in the Yon Valley, which is one of the poorest areas of France. And then he, he, and it's just a little village. It's a very small commune somewhere in France that they're at. And he says, no one can get jobs here. No one can get work. And everyone's leaving the area. And so, you know, he's going on and on moaning and groaning. And this guy, and he says, and then so-and-so who apparently lives there, some guy comes on the interview him at the very beginning. You heard it. The guy says, oh, we got to stay in the EU, otherwise we're screwed because they give us all these open markets, all these opportunities we get made by being in the EU. And I think, wait a minute, what doesn't make sense here? You're in some dying area because of the EU. I mean, you're in a dying area. What has the EU done for you? It's not as though the EU just showed up yesterday. There's been years and years of obviously neglect.

13:30 And he puts it together—this guy, Brabant or whatever his name is—he puts this piece together with this obvious discrepancy right at the beginning that just stands out, at least to me, like a sore thumb. Let's listen to it again. Now I want to hear this one more time. Very well. But nationally, it's not looking good for her at all. All the opinion polls suggest that Emmanuel Macron is going to win by a majority of 60 percent to 40 percent. The Yon Valley is one of the poorest districts of rural France. The lack of job prospects has forced many residents to move away. Le Pen's Frexit plans worry marketing executive David De Silva. Yeah, here's all these poor people over here, but let's talk to the rich marketing executive.

14:11 He'll know what's going on with the poor people. He must be in touch with them. And so he'll vote for the pro-European candidate Emmanuel Macron. We have access to everything, a great marketplace. No, and it would be a shame to lose that today. We obviously can't look well that guy has access to a great marketplace He's advertising marketing move there. I mean he should be living in Paris Yeah, he's roaming around the Yon Valley, and it's just like I just thought that cuz it's cheap I bet it is cheap And it's very quaint. What do you think all the Brits all live there?

14:49 Well, a lot of Brits do. Yeah. I hear you. I hear you're a bunch of douchebags. But I really... It's just a douchey report. It's the typical kind of crap that you get. In fact, I think today, if I have a theme for today's show, it's going to be lack of objective reporting. Well, I think there's a more overarching meme. And I know you relied on me because it's my beat to look into the American Health Care Act. Yes, actually. Yeah. Figured you would yeah, I actually have quite a quite a bit of analysis. No. Yeah, if you're I Want to warn you that I I have a hunch because of the nature of the of this document and the size of it Yeah, that I might say getting bored you might but I'm not going to go through the document itself. I

15:44 Oh, okay. How about that? It's, it's, well first of all the reason why I bring it up now. You need to do a markup though. Just do a markup. No, no, no, no, no. I did this, this is, we have to do this differently because I, I didn't want to bore you. Well thank you. I appreciate that. You're welcome. I figured if I'm boring you. Makes me bored at night. Yeah, if I'm boring you, I'm boring at least 1% of the audience. Maybe 2. Yeah, who knows? So the problem of course is that it's not just the media. We have a rash of people in the world and certainly in the United States of Gitmo Nation who just want to be YouTube stars. You know, a public that's running on meme fumes. It's true. There's no education. No one is doing anything to educate themselves. It's just meme fumes. That's what it is in both dimensions.

16:31 Yes, this is true. And so a couple of very interesting and my goodness, laudy laudy, very coincidental happenstances in the past few days leading up to this vote. And for people... I think it's the first time you've ever used that word. Laudy? No, happenstance. Well, thank you. I'm trying to expand my vocabulary instead of using of course all the time. You've done it by a word at a time. One word at a time. And I believe that this analysis and deconstruction will be interesting for people who are not dealing with this problem directly, because this is a US problem. And it is a very big problem, seeing as I had to opt out of health care coverage due to the cost. Just way too high. I moved in with Tina the Keeper, and in six months, then I can participate in her plan. The difference of $1,000 a month.

17:19 So this, yeah, it concerns a lot of people. The people like myself who are, I'm not poor by any means, but you know, middle class, you know, these are the ones hit the hardest with this stuff. And that's not being reported on, no one gives a crap about them in the media. It's not being gunned down, it's not emphasized, but I think it's some reportage. Let me remind you that Hillary Clinton, as she's on her Hit List tour, all she can think about, all she can talk about is how Comey just days before this, the week before the election, 11 days, whatever, blew all of her chances. But what is not discussed is that just days before that, the news broke of Obamacare insurance premiums going up 20%, people crying. Again, by the way.

18:15 You know, and she had no answer for that. And Trump, true or not, said, yeah, we're going to fix this. And she had no answer, none. And I think that's a big part of why she lost. But that's so...this is important. And everybody has some form of healthcare in their own country and you'll probably recognize some of the issues. So... How about this for an idea? What? The Comey thing was done as this...didn't hurt her chances at all. It was a smoke screen to keep people from recognizing the fact she wasn't going to do crap about the healthcare. That's why I bring it up. It's very possible. And she just didn't think it would be all that bad or I don't know. I don't know. I don't think it was that bad. I don't believe the bullcrap story that she's been saying over and over and over again that she would have won the election if it was on October 28th. No, of course not. Anyway, so this thing passed the House of Representatives in the US Congress.

19:11 still has to go to the Senate. This was seen as a big victory and the people on the face bag, fueled of course by what's happening on cable news, predominantly lost their crap entirely. I mean, we already heard the setup when I played Cory Booker, saying, oh, we're going to have people dying. It's going to be horrible. A quick montage as a backgrounder here. This is after, as it was passing, you know, kind of these hours leading up to it. little three by three of all the networks and how they were reporting on this. The House passing their version of a health care overhaul by a slim margin. The opposition from Democrats fierce, an angry backlash audible on the floor. Democrats singing and waving goodbye to Republicans. Respect to transactions related to North Korea and for other purposes. The taunt suggesting the bill will cost Republican seats in the 2018 midterm elections and outside. Shame on you!

20:05 Vice President Biden flashing out. This is still the Game of Thrones influence, you know? Game of Thrones. I think the funny thing was that they cut to the shame on you. It's not like they cut shame on you, shame on you, shame on you. No, there's one cadence. There's a one hit. Yeah, of course. This is well done, man. These guys are pros. Suggesting the bill will cost Republican seats in the 2018 midterm elections and outside. Shame on you! Vice President Biden lashing out on Twitter, calling it a day of shame in Congress, adding millions of Americans will lose coverage. Shame on you!

20:40 Shame on you! Democrats are also taunting Republicans, predicting the bill will cost them in the midterm elections. Democrats argued Republicans would be punished at the ballot box. But you have every provision of this bill tattooed on your forehead. You will glow in the dark on this one. And when the bill passed, they sang this on the floor. Alright, so it's all kind of the same idea. The Democrats were saying, oh you guys are so stupid, this passed, you're never gonna get re-elected. Nah nah nah nah, they're singing this song in Congress. That was on remote control, an MTV game show where they used that. What has happened to our government?

21:35 I highlight here a little snippet from CBS where you can actually hear the dichotomy in their reporting. Where you'll hear these smug Democrats singing na na na, hey hey, say goodbye and then the reporter will actually blame the Republicans for not being modest. It's crazy to hear this stuff. You might be able to hear in the background some chanting na na na na, hey hey, goodbye That's Democrats chanting on the House floor because they believe that House Republicans should have given the to the artists the label The album that was from I mean not just the lyrics we could've done better than that Democrats chanting on the House floor because they believe that House Republicans will come to rude the day that they

22:23 cast this vote, rolling back major pieces of Obamacare, replacing others. Republicans are not being modest in their victory. They already have cases of beer standing by here at the Capitol, Scott, to celebrate. Then they're going to be boarding buses and heading to the White House, where the president is waiting to celebrate with them in the Rose Garden. A very unusual move, given the fact that, as you point out, This is only the first step in this bill's legislative journey. It now goes to the Senate where it will almost certainly undergo major changes. Then it has to come back here to the House and there are many steps along that journey where it could get derailed.

23:03 Okay, now here's NBC a little shorter. It's clear that they're counting on President Trump to make the case of the American people over the objections of the AARP, over the objections of the American Medical Association, over the objections of the American Nurses Association, that what they did was the right thing. thing to do. That's a big risk to take when you're talking about the most unpopular president in American history at this stage of his presidency. And Nicole, it's a big risk for some of those members of the House who are going to face very difficult re-election battles in swing districts coming up in a year and a half or so. You heard Nancy Pelosi say they're going to end up walking the plank on this.

23:39 And those ads that the Democratic Party is already starting to put together is going to make them glow in the dark. The Senate will probably look at some fixes, some efficiencies, but I don't think the Senate will produce a bill that's as extreme as what came out of the House. But members of Congress are saying, we can go back to our district and say, we did vote to repeal and replace. For them, that might be the whole ballgame. And that's popular among a sliver of movement conservatives, but this is about people's families, people's lives. All right. So this is kind of where the news media was going. It was boring. You know it's like this is not a real story people don't want to really hear this so we had to kind of slowly get something going we could get some real outrage and It was Krauthammer actually because I'd heard about this. I'm like I Hadn't looked at it. I didn't give a crap so I wasn't thinking like a no agenda producer And it was Krauthammer who I like a lot on Fox who said a couple of things he's talking about

24:31 a single payer at the end and we'll get to that later but he said some other important things here. The debate in the last couple of days has been over the pre-existing conditions clause in Obamacare reviled by libertarians but popular with a lot of the public. That's sacrosanct at this point? Can't go anywhere do you think? Absolutely sacrosanct. I think what conservatives and Republicans are beginning to understand is how the fundamental view of health care among the American people has changed. Obamacare is a disaster on the ground. What it's done to our system, what it's done economically, it's in a death spiral, and politically it ruined the Democrats. However, there's an irony and a hidden victory here. Over these last seven years, people's expectations have changed.

23:39 And those ads that the Democratic Party is already starting to put together is going to make them glow in the dark. The Senate will probably look at some fixes, some efficiencies, but I don't think the Senate will produce a bill that's as extreme as what came out of the House. But members of Congress are saying, we can go back to our district and say, we did vote to repeal and replace. For them, that might be the whole ballgame. And that's popular among a sliver of movement conservatives, but this is about people's families, people's lives. All right. So this is kind of where the news media was going. It was boring. You know it's like this is not a real story people don't want to really hear this so we had to kind of slowly get something going we could get some real outrage and It was Krauthammer actually because I'd heard about this. I'm like I Hadn't looked at it. I didn't give a crap so I wasn't thinking like a no agenda producer And it was Krauthammer who I like a lot on Fox who said a couple of things he's talking about

24:31 a single payer at the end and we'll get to that later but he said some other important things here. The debate in the last couple of days has been over the pre-existing conditions clause in Obamacare reviled by libertarians but popular with a lot of the public. That's sacrosanct at this point? Can't go anywhere do you think? Absolutely sacrosanct. I think what conservatives and Republicans are beginning to understand is how the fundamental view of health care among the American people has changed. Obamacare is a disaster on the ground. What it's done to our system, what it's done economically, it's in a death spiral, and politically it ruined the Democrats. However, there's an irony and a hidden victory here. Over these last seven years, people's expectations have changed.

25:17 You watched the debate over the last three months, Dick Tucker. What are the grounds? The grounds are all liberal grounds. How many people are going to lose their coverage? How can you leave people out in the cold? The Jimmy Kimmel thing. It's showing that the country is at a point where I think it believes in universal coverage. And once you are there, the ground is shifted and Republicans and conservatives are going to have a hard time arguing for a consumer-based, market-oriented health care system. We're in a different world. Where health savings accounts may not be popular to the majority. I saw a piece this week entitled, The Conservative Case for Single Payer. I'm not sure most conservatives are quite there yet, but you think that's where it's going? I think that's where we're going. Whether it'll end up single payer.

26:05 You know, like on the Canadian system or not, I'm not sure, but I will guarantee you this. Within a few years, there won't even be an argument about whether or not government has an obligation to ensure that everybody gets health coverage. That's what the Democrats wanted all along. They weren't quite ready to pull the trigger in 2010. So they ended up with this hybrid system, this rickety system, which is not self-sustaining. But the idea, I think, has now sunk in. Okay, so a couple things here that Krauthammer reminded me of. One was that I needed to look at this Jimmy Kimmel thing. The other is, I think, which is, he's absolutely spot on, this, the machine has already programmed everybody to believe that everyone, it's a human right to have health care. We deserve it. The government, the magical government should be paying for it, however that magic happens.

26:56 And I think he's completely right. Completely right. Well, this is what I've been saying all along. Yes. And we're going to get to that because that flows seamlessly into single payer. And I know that you agree with that and I've gone on board too. Lots of people I know are like... And by the way, you've gone on board with it, which is a sign that Krauthammer's right. Horowitz has gone on board with it. Yeah. And Horowitz is the most Republican guy I know. It's most Republican guy I know, yes. Now, before we get to that, in this is a little bit of the ground zero of what happened leading up to, and this was a, the coincidence was fucking, excuse me, was really mind-blowing.

27:40 You'd say it almost can't be coincidence, but of course it is. And this is Jimmy Kimmel's kid. And I'm just going to play a little bit of the beginning of his monologue in case you missed it. I do have the full 13 minutes in the show notes at 927.noagendanotes.com. Just so you can, it was very emotional, it was really heartfelt, it was really good. Any parent understands how he felt, particularly going out and doing his job, trying to do his job. I have a story to tell about something that happened to our family last week. I'm sorry, you know, I try not to get emotional, but it was a scary story. And before I go into it, I want you to know it has a happy ending. Okay? So when I'm telling this, don't get too upset, leave that to me. But a little over a week. That's a trigger warning if I ever heard one. It could go on Friday, April 21st.

28:25 My wife Molly gave birth to a boy, a baby boy. His name is William John Schimmel. Woo! Alright, so I don't have to play the whole thing. You hear the emotion in his voice and it gets word, it goes up and down, he cracks jokes. Very professional. What a talent. You've seen it, I'm sure. Yeah. Okay. The end though was the perfect storm, ground zero, and abused as such. And I found to a degree a gratuitous slam at the president.

29:02 But it's how he felt or what someone had said he might want to, someone suggested it, I don't know, but it came down to the pre-existing condition part that is now being not just debated, people are going insane over this, particularly on the face bags. It's been very interesting 48 hours for me. So I'm going to play the ending as he kind of, the end of his monologue as he pitches this issue of pre-existing conditions. I couldn't ask for a better partner. I'm so happy we had this baby together. I'm definitely getting a vasectomy after this. By the way, you may want to call him about that, John. You know, you're friendly. You don't want to look like a lesbian. It doesn't help. Apparently, I gave up on my commentary. I think you should stay in there, man. Don't give in to the war on men. You know, you got to help all men.

29:56 I don't have his number. And I want to say one other thing. President Trump last month proposed a $6 billion cut in funding to the National Institute of Health. And thank God our congressman made a deal last night to not go along with that. They actually increased funding by $2 billion. And I applaud them for doing that. More than 40% of the people who have been affected by those cuts to the National Institute of Health are children and it would have a major impact on a lot of great places including Children's Hospital in Los Angeles, which is so unbelievably sad to me. We were brought up to believe that we live in the greatest country in the world but until a few years ago millions and millions of us

30:43 had no access to health insurance at all. You know, before 2014, if you were born with congenital heart disease like my son was, there was a good chance you'd never be able to get health insurance because you had a pre-existing condition. You were born with a pre-existing condition. If your parents didn't have medical insurance, you might not live long enough to even get denied because of a pre-existing condition. If your baby is going to die, and it doesn't have to, it shouldn't matter how much money you make. I think that's something that whether you're a Republican or a Democrat or something else, we all agree on that, right? I mean, we do. This was so masterful. This is why it was the coin, how the universe sometimes works baffles me. That this happened and this came right before the vote and it was just, just too delicious to believe, my pretty. Whatever your party, whatever your belief, whatever your support,

31:43 We need to make sure that the people who are supposed to represent us, the people who are meeting about this right now in Washington, understand that very clearly. Let's stop with the nonsense. This isn't football. There are no teams. We are the team. It's the United States. Don't let their partisan squabbles divide us on something every decent person wants. We need to take care of each other. I saw a lot of families there and No parent should ever have to decide if they can afford to save their child's life. It just shouldn't happen. Not here. So, anyway, thank you for listening. I promise I'm not gonna cry for the rest of the show.

32:31 Please say a prayer, El. It was very heartfelt, but the timing and I'm sure a lot of people think I'm a gigantic nutsack for what the things I'm about to say. I'm just saying that there are possibilities. What happened later on Chris Hayes' show, this really ramped stuff up and it affected me personally because I know the person in question. You know her as well, Jenny Jardin. who she's interviewed me, you know, she is odd. You know, I've always thought, well, she's odd. Where does she come from? What is her deal? Never really cared much to figure it out. But now whether this was written and acted, which I'm just saying it because holy crap, it was good.

33:16 But knowing Jenny a little bit, I doubt it. She had cancer. She has cancer. I thought she was in remission. I think it's an ongoing process with her. It's definitely very tough for her. She writes about it, and so I follow it. Yeah, she does write about it, so you can follow what she says. And she appears on Chris Hayes, and this happens. Jenny, that gets to the sort of question of where you think of yourself and other folks like you for whom this is life and death and millions of others who have family members for whom this is life and death like... And I want you to know that she starts out with her glasses on and after the first sentence she takes off her glasses and tears just start flowing freely down her face. The energy of investing yourself in fighting for the political outcome you want to see happen.

34:01 It's not a political outcome, it's a human outcome. Glass has come off. This isn't the America that I love. The America that I love cares about my right to life, even though I'm 46 years past being a fetus. The America that I love loves diversity. It knows that Children you know like Jimmy Kimmel's kid God bless him for saying what he did the other night Knows that those babies weren't born into the world with some kind of original sin That makes some of them worthy of death and the others worthy of life. This isn't robbing Peter to pay Paul This is killing Peter to pay Paul This is an America. Well this that was boo

34:54 Interesting things in that and one was her two religious references and then both a negative. Yep One was it wasn't born with original sin. Yeah, I know and the other one was the Peter and Paul reference Yeah with a with a twist with the twist. Yeah Okay, go on well so this I thought to myself okay now I'm just going to say I believe that in my heart. This is Jenny is truthful and I'm open to other interpretation, obviously. And so, but well, this has gone far enough. We're making each other sick. What the hell are they talking about? Is this true? This was a promise. I recall very clearly the president saying pre-existing conditions. I want to keep that in. It's going to cost us, but I want to keep that in. Yes, he's been around the stump saying that.

35:46 And also everyone will get coverage. So I go and of course I'm reading the entire bill, including the most important amendment which is the one that's being discussed. Section 137, Constructions, this is the only part I'm going to read of this bill. A, no gender rating. Nothing in this act shall be construed as permitting health insurance issuers to discriminate in rates for health insurance coverage by gender. And B, no limiting... One of the ironies I think of this moment... Sorry, didn't mean to do that. And... B, no limiting access to coverage for individuals with pre-existing conditions. Nothing in this Act shall be construed as permitting health insurance issuers to limit access to health coverage for individuals with pre-existing conditions. That's pretty damn clear to me. And then the rest of this amendment goes into

36:40 different levels of protection because of the, and we're not going to discuss all this about the waivers and how states can get federal money to pay for premiums for people in high risk pools. We will talk about that for a second. So what I realize is that, backing up. So I went all over the place trying to figure out what the hell is going on. Why are people seeing this? when I'm reading something different. So I actually post that on the face bag, that actual passage and say, you know, hey, I'm probably dumb. I'm just blonde and a VJ, but I'm reading here pre-existing conditions is expressly forbidden. So how does that work? So I post that to the face bag and the professor chimes in. What does the professor say?

37:30 Well, the professor... I got two links out of this. This is what was great. I got two links, one from dimension A and one from dimension B. Ah, now we're getting somewhere. And this was very interesting. And as the discussion kind of went through it, but let me just give you an example of the pushback. Let's stop for a second, because this could be confusing. It's clear that you've discovered by reading the bill that it's clear that pre-existing conditions are covered by the bill. Yes. And it's obvious, it's written out as such. Not even with legalese. I mean this is English. In plain English. Now at the same time we have Kimmel

38:15 lecturing the public and by the way I thought it was very heartfelt but not if he's lecturing the public with misinformation that's very disturbing to me. And then to follow it up with Chris Hayes having Jeannie on and she is going nuts over something that doesn't exist. She's doing the same thing. She's lecturing the public with misinformation. And now I immediately say to myself, why? What happened? Why are they lying to us like this? And now you're going to tell us. Well, yeah, we have to go through a couple of things.

38:57 So the pushback, and it was very interesting again to me that the first two comments were from people I respect highly. They're dudes named Ben, and they used to work at my company when it was, we had the public company. And so Bill Elberg chimes in, issue is in denial of coverage of individuals with pre-existing conditions. It's cranking the rates to the point where insurance is unaffordable for them. The high-risk pools are nowhere near the dollars of what the Obamacare was providing. Also, if you remove the individual mandate, that takes a lot of people out of the system and dollars the insurance company have to make up. How? By cranking rates in general and providing less coverage.

39:38 And then Christian Fleming comes in, yeah Bill is right and the way this is presented is sleight of hand. So now I know there's programming going on, mind control. And here's what I ask a simple question. Can anybody please post for me an opinion, because all I'm seeing is opinion, that relates directly to the text of the law? Is that too much to ask for? I think it's a very, I mean, that would be something very typical. And then the professor jumps in. Yes, it's surprising that no one has generated an annotated version of the bill. That would be super useful given how cryptic its language is. I say, cryptic? Did you read this?

40:21 And then there's opinion pieces, one that he posted, one that Bill posted, or Chris Marriott, yet another person, but he's a Republican who used to work for my company. And in Dimension B we have a piece from, here we go, from this, what is it, the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities that literally mirrors the Dimension A document from Congressman Hal Rogers who explains exactly how there are four tiers of protecting pre-existing conditions from having rates rise. But

41:01 What Dimension B thinks is that it's right in the language, I'm going to read it to you again. Nothing in this act shall be construed as permitting health insurance issuers to limit access to health coverage for individuals with pre-existing conditions. Access. So they're saying, well, access doesn't mean a guaranteed price. Now if you go to Merriam-Webster and you look at the exact definitions, you could read it either way. Because access is also defined in the first definition as ability to be able to do something, but you could also see it as an entryway. So now we're down to this minutiae. So what is the intent of this damn thing? And this goes back and forth, and it's very obvious to me, no one understands how the insurance industry works and what we're dealing with.

41:49 And if I were the architect of this plan, and this is kind of the conclusion up front, this is the only way that this could be going on, you need to regulate the insurance companies because they are the bad actors and we're going to find out why. There are really shits in this whole process. And who do you think wrote this bill? We know who's trying to get away with stuff. It's the bankers, that's insurance companies. There's no guys in lab coats at the insurance company. They're bankers, three-piece suits, Wall Street. Let's understand how the system works right now. And by the way, it's just a continuation of their bad acting during the ObamaCare fiasco. And the reason why... With all the hoops you gotta jump through to get a bottle of pills. And the reason they jumped out is because Obamacare was incomplete for them without the risk corridor provision, which said, hey, if you guys don't make the profit you think you were gonna make, you projected, then we'll make it up, the American taxpayer.

42:48 If they had billions set aside, just give it to them. Hey, thanks for participating. Thanks for making profit. You didn't make enough profit, so here's some more. It was never defined as if we lose money. It was just defined as if we don't hit our targets. So I spent a lot of time talking to producers over the weekend who we have working in the medical field. I really think it's good for us to understand how we got to this point and what may or may not be able to be done because you can't regulate the insurance companies. The only thing you can do is say, hey, here's the boundaries. If you step over that, We're going to, I guess, shame you publicly. It's very clear this language. And all the rest is just mind control based upon the Jimmy Kimmel, Jeanne Jardin, et cetera. And just as Krauthammer said, people are thinking this now in their minds. So currently, we've talked about this before, insurance companies reimburse practitioners for a max of 28 cents on the dollar. And you can try this yourself, go in and say, hey, I want to pay cash. I'll pay 30 cents on the dollar. They'll take it because they don't have to fill out the paperwork.

43:51 And the paperwork is according to the insurance company's protocol. This is all that coding for all these different afflictions. Everything has a code and it's like skip logic in their system. Like, well, if you have this code, then this treatment has to be given, this treatment has to be given, this referral has to be given. And if you don't do everything exactly right, which is very difficult to do, then they don't reimburse you at all. What? You've been arguing with them for 180 days? It's expired. Sorry. This is no longer collectible. So, this is a big hassle for doctors. You've heard the same thing from many, from doctors who you know, John. Oh yeah. They hate it. It's crazy. And they look... More than half of their time is spent on this. And they look like dicks for the amount of money that's going back and forth. But they have to have these rates because the insurance company will only pay out 28% so they can make any money at all. And now you see that people even stiff them on co-pays.

44:44 The doctors, like, ah, screw these guys. The doctor, for whatever reason I didn't get to the bottom of, if it's legal or ethical or whatever it is, they don't just fire you as a patient. One of the practitioners I spoke to does about a million, million and a half a year in revenue, has $110,000 of outstanding co-pays. Let that sink in. People just stiffing the doctors. So a lot of this stems from the EMRs. This was all solidified in Obamacare, the electronic medical record.

45:19 It was mandated. You have to have it. Two ways to install it. You can do it yourself. Costs about a hundred grand. You know, could be 70 really for the system, but you got to get people in. So I'm just saying easy round number, a hundred grand is what I've heard. However, you could have this subsidized by the government under the provision that 33% of your patients you'd have to take from Medicare. Another problem, and I'll tell you why. Currently under Medicare, and I believe this number to be true because I had it confirmed twice, do you know what the reimbursement is from Medicare to a doctor for an office visit, just an office visit, a checkup? I have no idea. What do you think it should cost?

46:01 I think they should reimburse it 100%. But how much money? Just in dollar value? For a doctor's visit, I think it's going to run around $100. Yeah. Medicare reimburses an office visit for $7. $7. So you see the problem. So you have to get this thing, then all of a sudden you have all this hassle with patients that a lot of doctors just don't want to take for this very reason. Now here's where the scam really comes into play. Because you have these codes, you've got the electronic medical record, which is run by the insurance companies. They have something called quality measurements. And this is done through the same protocol and coding system. Doctors are ranked in tiers.

46:44 So tier one, you know, you're the doctor's doing everything by the book. Hey, let me check your toenail. Oh, gotta refer you to somebody else. In fact, the doctors are incentivized for doing this low level kind of keep people healthy pipeline just with everything they can put in there. so that those people can be pooled into a lower premium group and the unhealthy people immediately go into the high-risk pool with high premiums. So we're actually incentivizing the system to jack up premiums on unhealthy people. And you've got people saying, oh doctor please, please, please, and this is under Obamacare right now today. Doctor, please don't write down that I'm 10 pounds overweight. You know, I don't want to get into obesity problems and go into a, have it affect my premium. This is happening today.

47:32 Along with this comes the patient portals. This is just mind-numbing for doctors. Because all your lab results, everything around... I don't have one because I don't have a doctor. I'm like, I don't have anything. But I've seen like Tina has a patient portal and she's like, oh here's my levels and here's what's going on. And people are going to WebMD and they're saying, hey, hey, hey doc, I got to talk to you. I'm dying, I got cancer. You know, I don't know. You can just imagine what people are doing. So this is being solved in a number of ways. The main one is the hospitals. There's only, I think, two big corporations that own all the hospitals. They're now going and they're buying up all these practices. They want to own the whole thing. And they probably hope to stiff the insurance companies

48:20 by having it all under their roof, they'll have total control. So there's an actual war going on there. So they want to get everybody in and they're talking to a lot of doctors who are set to retire anyway. The current offering is about 1.5 times valuation. So if you're doing a million dollars, they'll give you a million five, but you get to move into the hospital, your staff is assimilated, and then when the doctor's ready to retire, they have everybody and everything's good to go. So if the only thing Besides going to single payer, the only thing that could be going on is we have to somehow by also opening up interstate competition between the insurance companies, which I think of course will make car insurance, when it happened, car insurance got a lot more affordable.

49:05 So, you know, that's just a protected racket that has to end. And maybe Trump is just saying, well, you know, this is the only way I can do it is get this passed. And if these guys start jacking up rates on pre-existing conditions, we're going to, you know, I'm going to raise public problems about it. Medical field, meanwhile, has done something very interesting. And this is something that the No Agenda producers need to keep their eye on. The concept of concierge medicine. Have you heard of this? I've heard of it, I'm not sure what it means. I think it's been covered in some of the local news stories. And it's happening everywhere, mainly in middle class and upper class neighborhoods in areas, districts, where you pay a set amount of money directly to your doctor, to your GP per month. And it ranges from $100 to about $400. And you can get unlimited visits, house calls, they'll talk to you on the phone. You circumvent everything and everybody.

50:00 And this is really catching fire. People are really digging this idea. I like the idea, too. I didn't even know it existed until I started. Well, this is more...I had this pharmacist in Albany who died a few years back, but he was very famous. He was a notorious John Birch Society guy. I remember him when I was in college. And I ended up doing business with him as my pharmacy. And he was a great guy to talk to, and he would always bring up the fact, he says, you know, none of this happened before the insurance companies came in the picture. The drugs were cheaper, the doctors you just pay out of pocket. You always paid out of pocket for the doctor. You didn't pay an insurance company to pay them. That's all new. And this whole thing ramped, and it ramped quickly.

50:49 He's always seen it as a massive scam. Sure, it is. It's a racket that's being protected and the public doesn't understand how it really works. And so all this outrage is completely misplaced. You're angry at the wrong people. This may not be the way to go. This may not be the way to fix it. Of course, if you want to go to single payer, you've often used the existing programs as As what it is, we have single-payer systems. In this case, the worst example of single-payer is the VA, the Veterans Administration. Now, this is apparently going to be fixed, but people are dying. They're committing suicide just waiting for treatment. So, you know, single-payer in America, sadly, it could be, the slogan could be, VA for everyone! You know, something like that.

51:48 Well, the difference between that single payer and Medicare, of course, is that with Medicare, you could go through. It's not you don't have to go to the VA hospital or the Medicare hospital. But you may have to go to a designated hospital or practitioner. Definitely. That's not, I don't think that's necessarily the case. It's not as designated as it is with the system as it now exists under Obamacare where you have these little groupings. Like my daughter, for example, she has to go to this group of doctors, which is all designated. It's more designated than Medicare for sure. Well, having lived under a single payer system, and I was reminded of this last night, I was telling Tina about it. It really presents a visible class

52:34 structure within society. And the example I have is when I was seven or eight going to, then I'd be more on nine or 10 going to Dutch school because I dropped in like fifth grade and didn't speak a word of Dutch, whole trauma there. The way it worked was, and it was, you know, it was built into your taxes. You never paid anything for a doctor. The doctor would do a lot of house visits, all kinds of stuff. Dental care was a truck that rolled up at school twice a year. And then, you know, like a facilities truck, kind of like a TV camera truck with the directors inside, with little steps leading up to it. And everyone could hear kids screaming and howling in pain. I think that's a good idea. For the three days that it was there. The screaming. It was just, it was, it was, kids were throwing up out of fear. It was really horrible.

53:20 But also, yeah, if you needed a prescription for your eyes and you're poor, then you would get glasses and they're known as the Sikafonsbrille. The Dutch system is called the Sikafons, the Sik Fund, which is, I love the Dutch, they're so... they're so negative. The Sick Fund, not the Healthy Fund, no, no, the Sick Fund and Brilje is a, you know, as a small glasses and they were pretty much like the wire frame glasses that Dustin Hoffman wore in Papillon, you know, and so you would point the kid out. Stylish at the moment. Yeah, you would point out the kid and go, ah, you've got a Sick Fund glasses, ah, you're under welfare, you can't afford any better ones. It's really horrible.

54:03 Yeah, well, anyway. So that doesn't exist in the world of kids. So when you understand the background, now you can see that people are just talking completely out of their buttholes. No one can relate any of this opinion directly to the legislation because it is clear there cannot be a rise in premiums for pre-existing conditions. If it happens, the insurance companies, they can forget a lot of bailouts that they look forward to in the future. Two more things about this. Planned Parenthood. Nowhere in the bill does it say, we're taking money away from Planned Parenthood. There's no defunding of Planned Parenthood.

54:43 And I'm going to play something here, and it really struck me about Planned Parenthood being, oh, pre-existing condition, we go, we're going to—no, that's not what this is about. The only thing—well, there's two things. One is federal money cannot be used for abortions, and it's very specified, specified in this act, except if it's incest, risk to the life of the mother. So these things are already in there, the exact Roe v. Wade copy, pretty much, of what is permissible. So, what is the money that's going to Planned Parenthood being used for? We listened to Planned Parenthood CEO Cecile Richards with Andrea Mitchell. The winds are not blowing well for Planned Parenthood. This vote is likely to pass the House and it does defund Planned Parenthood, which means all of your clinics around the country for women's health. It's a devastating day for women on Capitol Hill right now. Not just the millions of women who count on Planned Parenthood for cancer screenings and birth control.

55:39 which is what they're trying to deny access to. But obviously 24 million people are going to lose access to health insurance coverage and a whole lot of other benefits that women have gotten over the last eight years. We're desperately concerned about what's going to happen. It'll create chaos for women in America who depend on us for affordable health care. And we will fight to make sure that this bill never passes the United States Senate. What weapons do you have though? It's a Republican Senate, it's a Republican House. Women are speaking out in record numbers. Republican women, Democratic women. They're going to town hall meetings, they are calling, record numbers of women calling their members of Congress saying they will not go back to a time when they couldn't have access to reproductive health care in America.

56:22 Now, Cecile Richards is disingenuous in this. She really is. And I was looking at the 990 trying to understand because I said, hold on a second. They're called Planned Parenthood. And Planned Parenthood, they say that they deal with reproductive rights, reproductive stuff. In fact, let me, well, I'll give them reproductive rights, but that's only 5% of their business and that's not subsidized. Even though money is fungible and a dollar can be over here and then it's over there, all of a sudden it's all done in the accounting. But I know for sure that an abortion at Planned Parenthood that is not risk to the mother or any of that, that costs $600, they really get Medicare funding.

57:02 That's really how they make their money and so they're being cut off from that. Now let's listen to their mission statement because I want to understand why are they doing cancer screenings? Why do I see on their website they have body issues, they have sexuality issues? I mean this is not really related to Planned Parenthood anymore?" And Tina said, you know, they at least should rebrand and explain what they're doing because they even have jock itch services. How does money earmarked for Planned Parenthood, how does that jive with jock itch? I don't know. So she said, what's the mission? Here's the mission statement. I thought it to be very interesting. The mission of Planned Parenthood is to provide comprehensive reproductive and complementary health care services

57:49 jock itch in settings which preserve and protect the essential privacy and rights of each individual. That of course relates to Roe v. Wade so they can do abortions. To advocate public policies which guarantee these rights and ensure access to such services and to provide educational programs which enhance understanding of individual and societal implications of human sexuality. So what is this? Is it a think tank or what are they doing? They also promote research in the advancement of technology in reproductive health care. This is a great sentence. Reproductive health care, in their mind, is abortion. That's what it means. It means stopping birth. So they want to promote research and advancement of technology in stopping birth. Interesting.

58:35 also encourage understanding of their inherent bioethical, behavioral, and societal implications. I'm going back to saying this is still a eugenics outfit. I don't like that language at all. They need to... if they say only 5% of the work we do is abortions, the what is it? Cancer screenings. It's understandable. Yeah, okay. You know, you need to check for HPV, but it's not necessarily family planning. So they need to clean up their image if they want to. And what are they trying to do? Is it only for women? Is it discriminatory against men? Are they trying to be your general practitioner and just get all the Medicare money? I don't understand what they're doing. And that is another one of these... You can't just say, actually, oh, women's access to health care is being shut off. These are memes. This is your meme fumes. It has to stop. It's making people sick. Jenny Jardin is getting very sick from this shit, if she was genuine.

59:30 I don't know. She was definitely genuine. I thought so too. She doesn't have a phony bone in her body as far as I can tell. I agree. I have one clip to wrap it up from Bill Maher's show from the other night. It's about this, but also this woman who is speaking is Maya Wiley and she's from the New School. You know what the New School is? We've actually discussed the new school in great detail. Good. Refresh my memory, please. I can't remember. But I do. I know we discussed it. It's a... Yeah, I'll read it to you. The new school is in New York City. It's the only comprehensive university where a world-renowned design school, Parsons, joins a liberal arts college, a performing arts college, and graduate programs in schools, including the new school for social research.

1:00:21 To seek out new ways to create a more... It's a modern version of a liberal arts college. Yes. With a very politically leaning left. Yeah. To seek out new ways and new civilizations. To create a more just, more beautiful, and better designed world. Oh, we need these people in our future. And this is... They're gonna tell you what to do. Yeah. Maya Wiley, who is the senior VP of social justice at the New School. I've decided I want to change my title from podcaster to VP of Social Justice. That's a business card.

1:01:00 You should put it on a business card and see what happens. Here she is. Here's the thing. Jimmy said if your baby... Jimmy again. I should have reminded you that this is with the ground zero was Jimmy. Here's the thing. Jimmy said if your baby's going to die and it doesn't have to, it shouldn't matter how much money you make. I think that's something whether you're a Republican or a Democrat, we all agree on. And unfortunately, that's not true. And that needs to be said. That's not true. One side wants to tax rich people so babies don't have to die and one side is mostly against that. And this lets Republicans off the hook. Let's not fuck around with this. We are not on the same page with this. This is not a squabble.

1:01:50 where it's about just two sides being... It really is about values. I mean what we've seen, this is a clarifying week because what this vote showed was a kind of willingness to embrace naked cruelty. People will die. People will die and they know it and it's a price they're willing to pay. We are not all on the same page. We don't all agree. We are not not frankly, to get the Freedom Caucus, once again, thanks to gerrymandering. They have undue influence in Congress outside of the percentage of popular vote in the states they're representing. So they're not actually reflecting a lot of their constituents. And that's what we have to remember, particularly as we're thinking about how we go into the 2018 election. And let me give you Joe Walsh, as he's an ex-Congressman, a Republican, who— I thought it was an eagle. —answered Jimmy. He said— Hold on a second.

1:02:53 So, what she said was that the gerrymandering which has created all these House of Representatives Republicans don't represent the public. But nobody, I would assume somebody would say this, but apparently nobody was going to say it. How does that explain the state by state differentiation as resulted in very few Democratic governors and very few Democratic-run legislatures within the states where it's very hard to make that same gerrymandering argument. Except for states like California and some of the big states back east, that is true throughout the country. So that's bullcrap, what she said. How dare you question the senior VP of Social Justice?

1:03:37 This will not stand. A lot of their constituents and that's what we have to remember particularly as we're thinking about how we go into the 2018. And let me give you Joe Walsh as he's an ex-congressman, a Republican, who answered Jimmy. He said, sorry Jimmy, your sad story doesn't obligate me or anybody else to pay for somebody else's health care. And that is their view. That it is a product, not a right, and in fact health care is a stick. to stimulate you to do better so you can buy your own health care. This is the same thing with Donald Trump about why couldn't we have solved the Civil War? Because one side thought that black people were farm equipment that could sing. Yeah, that was the Democrats I might point out. Yeah, you kind of missed that point of it, didn't you? Yeah, he just keeps on saying it. It's like they don't even know that that was Democrats, what today we know as Democrats,

1:04:30 who thought that. when When you look at what happened in the election, he really won this election by 80,000 votes. You know, this notion that there was, first of all, almost 3 million popular votes to Hillary Clinton. But secondly, it really came down to three states, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. The grand total was about 80,000 that delivered the unfortunate electoral college.

1:05:21 to him. So that is not quite the landslide that it was reported. Okay, thank you very much. Who reported it as a landslide? No, that he himself, the president himself. That's what she said. That's the way she put it. I know, I know, I know. By the way, this by the way what she just did. And I have some clips later. The show's almost over. I hope it didn't bore you. If I was bored, I'd let you know. Now the thing is, I do have, I didn't get both sides of this necessarily, but Tucker Carlson had a guy on and there seems to be a new meme coming up, which is the news media, and she kind of indicated that when she used the word reported,

1:06:02 Yeah, that it was a landslide. Yeah, there's a new meme I and it's like really a baffler that the news media was all in for Trump. Mm-hmm. That's what they Wait a minute, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Then the meme is that Hillary lost because the media was all for Trump against her Yeah, they were against her against her or for Trump. That's it. There's a difference both. I Wow. They were against her and for Trump. And people are buying into this? Yes. Tucker Carlson had a guy on, of all people of course, a guy on to discuss this and he had all this information from the Shorenstein Foundation, all these different people, indicating that the news media was

1:06:49 Really against Hillary because of the emails and they were pounding and hounding her and they delivered Trump as the president. The news media. The mainstream media. As a straddler I can see how they come up with that interpretation. But it's a stretch. Oh, they're dead serious too. Is this the press Hillary Tucker clip? This is just, this is, yeah, the problem with this clip is, because I didn't know this show was going to go in this direction. I have no, none of these clips. I'm almost done with this topic. We can take a break and come back if you want. Just as a side, yeah, after you're done, we can play that clip and then we can maybe talk about this phenomenon. All right. So the last thing I'll, okay, to summarize,

1:07:30 It may be a very valiant effort on behalf of the Republican Party and the president to try and get the insurance companies under control because you just can't. No, you'll never pass a bill that says, hey, insurance companies, this is what you can't do any longer because then all the money dries up. It's all banking money. I want to go back to that last clip that you had with that woman saying was that the same states that supported slavery were the ones that were against Obamacare. I want to mention something that is always overlooked. and it harkens back to my discussion about my old pharmacist, the right winger. There was, I believe there was some thinking, it's a little old fashioned, I don't think it's ever gonna work anymore, which is why I'm in for single payer, because you're past the point of no return. Hey, look, I'm all with it. I'm just saying I'm gonna call it. Let me get my point out, which is those states

1:08:27 could very well be thinking what's wrong with the old system without insurance whatsoever, the old country doctor. I mean maybe there was a hearkening, they really were sincerely against Obamacare because they saw the system as being a piece of crap that it became. She makes it sound like you're just a bunch of racists. No, and in fact that hearkens back to the concierge medicine. That's exactly what it is. It is. It is. It's the country doctor. It's going back to that. And a lot of practitioners are doing this. This is a big deal. A very big deal. You know, the funny thing is... And you know what they also do in Florida? They all have big signs in their office, the ones who are doing this, saying, okay, concierge medicine, but we carry no malpractice insurance. You want to go and sue us for malpractice? Go ahead. You're going to ruin me. That's a great idea. And they put all the assets in their wives' names. So go ahead, sue me.

1:09:24 But I'm telling you right here, I have no insurance for it, so no one's going to take your case because you just can't settle for the insurance company. You'll be dealing with me, you're going to bankrupt me, you'll have no service, and no service for you! Interesting. All right, go on, finish. So the only thing I wanted to finish with was something I learned which also blew my mind, and this relates to Big Pharma, because how does Big Pharma fit into this? I did not know that every single pharmaceutical manufacturer, every single one, I've checked just the ones off the top of my head, you know, Merck, Pfizer, they all have a program that they don't advertise but it's all on their website where you can get their medic... you cannot die due to not being able to afford their product. They will give it to you. I'm going to just give you an example.

1:10:17 of Pfizer's RX Pathways. It's on their website. Patient and prescription assistant programs. Pfizer invests heavily in research and development to discover new treatments that will alleviate suffering and give hope to patients around the world. But inventing medicines isn't enough if the people who need them can't get them. Pfizer believes that having a limited income should not limit access to medicine, so Pfizer is taking steps to improve access to prescription drugs. Key points. Pfizer, along with the other drug companies, supports the broadest accessible access to medicine and Pfizer has established its own programs to help patients who need but cannot afford their own drugs. Pfizer and other pharmaceutical companies have established special programs to help ensure that patients on limited incomes and those without insurance can obtain needed drugs. Pfizer Rx Pathways helps eligible patients get access to their Pfizer medicines by offering a range of support services including insurance counseling, co-pay help, and providing Pfizer medication for free or at a savings and more. They all do this. All of it. Do you have a $100,000 pill? You can get it for free if you can show that you can afford it.

1:11:22 And I guess that's, to me, I hope it's because these organizations, somewhere there's a soul who says, gee, you know, we can't be the assholes, let people die because the other stuff is all messed up. But people don't know this. Well, one of the pharmacy, pharmaceutical companies, AstroZeneca, they advertise it on their commercials. Oh, really? Well, good. They're the only ones that do that, as far as I know. Although I just skip these commercials nowadays mostly. So bottom line, this is dimensionality, split universe, people freaking out. I mean, what do they call this thing? Death, destruction, babies will die. I mean, are we insane? Well, just listening to your report, which was very thorough, much more so than anyone else's done,

1:12:15 anywhere in the media. Thank you. Because apparently he got into it. Yeah. The one thing, I don't know if you noticed it, I did, but on the clips and on the... bitching and moaning and all the rest of it. There was one overriding theme. Trump. It was, no, it was 2018. And the year was brought up over and over and over again. 2018, 2018. We'll lie to the public. We don't care. We got these memes. We'll throw those out. Whatever we have to do to get some more Democrats in the Congress. And this to me is just a, this is a scheme to elect Democrats and that's all it is. They don't give a crap. The Democrats and the limousine Democrats.

1:12:58 They don't give a crap about the public. They talk a big game. And you got Bill Maher, you know, who's a millionaire, a multi-millionaire that can give a million dollars to a candidate. That's how much money he's got. These elites, these Hollywood elites, these people don't care about anybody. Well, even in my own circles, it is notable that everyone who is bitching the loudest about this has health care through their company that is doing just fine, thank you very much. None of them are dealing with the stuff that I deal with as an independent, you know, podcaster. My God, I'm being discriminated against. You sunk. I'm being sunk. I'm so low. But it's people who have health care who are yelling about it. And what they yell is, you don't care. You don't believe in this. You don't care about other people. You're horrible. You want other people to die. Yeah, die.

1:13:55 And it's sick, man. It's sick. And you're right. And it's being fueled by these people who are all about the elections. And the media is completely complicit about the 2018. They're the ones saying it. So you got to stop. They're not going to stop. Are you kidding? This is a machine. All you did was show that this is bull crap. Let's summarize your report. What's going on is bullcrap. Yes. What's the point of it? To elect Democrats. Yes. That's it. That's it. That's it. In a nutshell. That's right. But it's affecting people who I know. You know, Jenny, I mean, that, this, I firmly believe that one of the many ways you can get cancer is by harboring negative thinking and hate and, you know, fear, all these things. I think that's very bad. Well, I think if you're, it's a known fact that it's not good

1:14:50 Anxiety is what we're talking about more than anything. Anxiety is not a healthy condition. And if anything, we should be getting Medicaid, Benjamins, for the service we provide. You know what I'm saying? No, that's not happening. Well, how about I say in the morning, and thank you very much, I'm all confused. In the morning is what you say. How about I say I want to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John say where the C stands for Care should be singular Dvorak. Well in the morning to you in the morning. Y'all sorry about ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air. Yes, I was in the water.

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1:26:44 Yeah, shut up. So I want to get I want to get these Tucker Carlson things out of the way. Because I have you know, I've been following his show as if it's not going to make it. It's gonna fade because of this. Hold on. We have a if you're gonna do this, this is now your beat. You have a jingle. Tucker Carlson. There you go. Jingle. So this is, I've got two clips. One is the Tucker, one of them relates to this meme that the Democrats lost because of mainstream media, which is, I mean, it just makes you smile when you think about it. But this is the one, this clip here, which is the Tucker Carlson opening amateur clip, is to me a,

1:27:36 indication that he's already having difficulties with his booking of guests. Good evening and welcome to Tucker Carlson tonight. She is back. Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute. I think I have three Tucker clips. Oh, this is another problem. I want you. This is a short, short clip that has a little anomaly in it. I want you to listen to the clip. It's kind of right at the beginning. This is going on on every show. And this is what I just played just now. Yeah. OK, let me listen carefully. Good evening and welcome to Tucker Carlson tonight. She is back. Hold on, I wanna hear, what are you hearing? Good evening and welcome to Tucker- Like a lip smack?

1:28:18 Yeah, big time. You're right. I've been noticing as well. And we have done, we've been pretty successful with removing our lip smacks. I still do it. We had one of our producers wrote a note in, adamant note about us doing lip smacks. And ever since then, it has the same effect that we have when we do certain things that people listen to other people's shows and they say, ah, they're saying at the end of the day. No, no, no. What happens is you hear someone lip smack, you immediately think time to donate to the No Agenda show. Well, I'm hoping that happens. But Dr. Carlson is a terrible lip smacker. Yeah, you're right. I totally agree. We have to warn people again. Yes, and we've, I think, eliminated completely.

1:29:04 We could go back to it if we wanted. Okay, so what are we playing now? Okay, now we're playing the clip, Liberals Are Cowards. Judging by his reaction to an interview we did on Wednesday night, Ben Smith, the editor of BuzzFeed came on, you might remember, and we had a vigorous discussion about liberal groupthink in the press. We disagreed with each other, but I wasn't hostile. I enjoyed it actually, and I think Smith enjoyed it too. Weigel definitely did not enjoy it. Too many different opinions on display, including some he doesn't agree with, and that shouldn't be allowed. So like the DC journalist he is, Weigel immediately started whining about it on Twitter. Why does Ben Smith keep diving into this endless pool of bad faith, he tweeted.

1:29:47 Keeping Smith in mind that Smith has been on this show exactly two times and both times we asked him pretty straightforward questions and gave him time to answer those questions. That's called legitimate debate. But to a Washington Post reporter, someone who lives in a world where every single person has identical views of everything, all of them fashionable, all of them unquestioned, that looks like bad faith to him. So naturally we invited Weigel on to come on tonight and explain himself. I emailed him this morning. He wrote back to say he couldn't do it. He was planning to watch a movie. That's how it starts. Now two obvious points here. First, diversity means difference. Guys like Weigel love diversity when it means people who look different.

1:30:24 But a diversity of views? That is terrifying to them. It's a threat to the moral monopoly they believe they hold in American life. It suggests that people who aren't evil or stupid might have come to different conclusions from the ones they came to and may even have a valid point. That possibility is unacceptable to them. It shakes their faith in their own virtue. And so they bat it away with name-calling. They always do. Bad faith, fascism, basket of deplorables, whatever. You've heard it all before. They're going to keep saying it until you shut up. Because, of course, that's the point of saying it in the first place. And the second point here, it takes a lot for liberals to come on this show. Thanks to people like Weigel, there's a lot of peer pressure not to come on. And they know that when they do come on, it won't be fluffy. They're going to have to answer the question. But night after night, some of them come anyway, and we are grateful for that. They may be wrong or misguided, but at least they're not cowards.

1:31:15 Yeah, no one wants to be on a show anymore. That's the problem with this format. Bitches and moans about name calling and then you call some cowards. There's some little irony in that. Yeah, no kidding. I thought it was very funny. Yeah, no, you nailed it. You nailed it. You nailed it. Now he has, this next clip is Press Hillary Tucker. Press Hillary Tucker. Hillary Tucker. Now this is the part of the clip where he goes on about the media. Here's what bothers me about this little segment. He posits, and I don't use that word often, but he posits this thesis that I talked about, which is that the liberal meme creators are trying to turn this Hillary thing around.

1:32:00 So it's never been Hillary's fault, it's now the media's fault. Of course. And this to me is an example of him actually falling prey to the... Just ignoring that idea or laughing it off seems to be the proper way to deal with that concept. There's a few nut balls out there and he brings one of them on which I do not have the clip of but he comes on and he defends this thesis that the media caused Hillary the election because they were against her and they were promoting Trump. Tucker brings out his rationale how this is bogus to preface the guest. And I thought by doing that itself was kind of lending credence to the idea and I thought it was bad form, but here it is.

1:32:44 despite being rejected by the American electorate in two separate presidential contests, Hillary Clinton is looking to reestablish herself in politics. First off, she publicly blamed James Comey and the media for her defeat, thereby sending the message to loyalists that she didn't really lose at all. I was on the way to winning until a combination of Jim Comey's letter on October 28th and Russian WikiLeaks raised doubts in the minds of people who were inclined to vote for me but got scared off. Well her countless fans in the media including the one you saw interviewing her in that last clip lapped this up and cheered on her return to the scene. I found this to be perhaps the most astonishing Hillary Clinton appearance I've ever seen. It was

1:33:32 It was perhaps her at her most authentic. I think what Jim Comey did was to throw overboard Justice Department procedures because of political reasons his own internal politics because of the hatred for Hillary Clinton within the FBI 20% of people voted because of racism and I think after a black president there was no way that this woman was going to win They live in an irony free world all that gushing, but it's not surprising if you've been following following it. Remember any of these New York Times headlines from the days right before the election? On the Hillary side, here's one. Hillary Clinton sees ugliness and joy in races closing days. And this. Big names campaigning for Hillary Clinton underscore Donald Trump's isolation. Yeah, he could never win. For Trump, how about this one? Donald Trump's moments and missteps, a look back. What is going on? This is not his regular format for some. This doesn't feel right to me.

1:34:32 I think what's going on and I think with the previous clip where he called the liberals cowards. This is, they have taken a look at O'Reilly's formula, because I think the writing's on the wall. They know that Tucker can't carry the show the way he was doing. So what you're looking at in this bit and in the bit, mostly in the bit before, is a little lecture at the beginning in much the same way as O'Reilly's letter. Right, okay, well it's not working at all. Well, O'Reilly's letter was extremely staged. It had a little note on the side. Yeah, the memo or whatever he called it. The Talking Boys memo.

1:35:12 Talking points about when he had a little thing on the side and what as he spoke the words were also on the screen. Yeah Alongside and it was it was clearly an editorial and and a little extra thing about that the words on the screen were never Exactly what he was saying and I felt that was intentional and I always like yes, I always like absolutely I agree with you 100% it was it was enough of a difference that you You had to pay extra attention because you'd be reading the word on the screen and then all of a sudden O'Reilly would say something slightly different. Very effective technique. I thought so because it would scramble your brain just a little bit. Yeah, Tourette's. It's like, wait, wait, wait, and then you'd notice it and as you notice it you'd pay more careful attention. Yeah, to what was being said. It's a great technique. We should have subtitles to this show.

1:36:01 So, I think that Tucker's producers aren't the same people, but they see it differently. At the beginning, he's got a little opinion thing at the beginning. Let's have Tucker do some opinionizing at the beginning and then he can roll into his Q&As or his interviews. I think you're right. When you watch it, he's got a lot of visuals flying back and forth. None of this misspeaking that O'Reilly did, you know, just different words. I want to listen to the rest of the clip. Let's just play it out. Underscore Donald Trump's isolation. Yeah, he could never win.

1:36:38 For Trump, how about this one? Donald Trump's moments and missteps, a look back, or black voters aghast at Trump find a place of food and comfort. But wait, didn't Trump get a higher percentage of the African American vote than Mitt Romney did? So maybe the press didn't actually know what they were talking about. Maybe they still don't. Either way, it's hard to argue they were rooting for Donald Trump to become president, and yet many Hillary fans Republicans disagree with that. Peter Dow, for example, was an advisor to Hillary's 2008 presidential campaign, and he joins us tonight. Peter, thanks a lot for coming on. Pleasure to be here. Thank you. I don't doubt that the Comey announcement had an effect on the election. I thought that at the time. But the press was foursquare for Hillary Clinton from the moment Donald Trump got the nomination. They didn't hide it at all. Yeah. Yeah. This format is not working. I agree with you.

1:37:29 It's boring. He was actually bored me a little bit there. I'm like, well, hold on. I'm getting bored by Tucker. Huh? No, I think what's going to happen is there, you know, what's I, you know, what's going to happen. I know what's going to happen to suits. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. We got to tinker with it. Yeah. They're going to start tinkering with it. So they're going to have meetings and then Tucker, can you do this? Tucker, can you do that? You know, what we're seeing here is they're not getting it right. We had the focus groups aren't showing, you know, this is going to be a, he's going to, Either quit... You know the minute you're at a broadcast outfit and you see the following guy... He always has kind of a bad suit on and he has a big... Brooks Brothers usually. Yeah, Brooks Brothers suit and he has a roller bag, a big, you know, like a... not a bag for clothes, but like for paperwork and stuff. Yeah, paperwork. And that's the consultant. The kind that wants... that the stewardess is rolling. Yes, yes, that's the consultant. More like the pilots, the pilots, that kind of case.

1:38:25 I think I swear. Yes, it's basically a flight case filled with things that say you're fired. That's what it says. That's the consultant and they come in and if you want to like in radio, if you want to keep working, you blow the consultant. You'll work anywhere. Yeah, I got a great guy. He's got, you know, you'd be great for your morning show. So Tucker's got the suit, the suits with the suitcases. It's coming. Yeah, it's happening. It's happening for sure. And it's not going to be pretty and I think it's going to. And you know, the Murdoch kids are screwing. They got their own shit. You can see, you can see the difference if you start watching Fox again. The different anchors, there's this really attractive black woman who's very well spoken. Diversity, diversity. That's the diversity.

1:39:13 Shepard's seems to have been off for I don't know how long and they got some new guys. They're trying new people, a little more mature looking. A little less gay maybe. A little less gay. It's going to be a funny thing to watch. I don't see that their politics are changing that much. I'm sure they're gonna go a little more middle of the road. Yeah, they have to. And kind of drop down to the CNN. They won't get as bad as CNN. They'll get pretty bad. They'll get bad. It's gonna hurt their ratings. Sorry, they're not gonna get better. Let's put it that way I'm tying to this just a quick 25 second clip from Charlie Rose show a little update on what Hillary's up to But this is the hills Amy Parnes and it's You know he's interviewing more and more journalists

1:40:00 And, you know, the Hill, I don't know, that's really a journalist interviewing journalists. Yeah, that's how bad it's gotten. I think it's partly responsible for a slowdown in donations, because I think there's I think a lot of the new people watching this is not the right. Why should I listen to agenda? What are they going to deconstruct? She says that. The question I really asked was... Hold on, let me just play this for you. The question I want to ask you as a journalist. The question I really asked was what's happening to her now? What's her future? She, from what I understand, is not going to be a part of... Yeah, lip smack. Ben, and why is this the Hill person such an expert on Hillary? Oh, Hill, Hillary, got it. Hill, Hill, Hillary.

1:40:41 She from what I understand is not going to be a part of her foundation her family's foundation. No, she's like bill This is your shit you deal with it. I'm not covering for you anymore And by the way, he had the money's dried up broseph. You don't know how to run it anymore I gotta start my own foundation. He's stepping away from it. I And she wants to do something different and she is still trying to figure that out from what I'm hearing. Could she become the university president or something like that? She could do anything. She's one of the smartest people. She will always be the smartest woman in the room, I think. I knew that would get you. Oh, I have to play this for you.

1:41:25 Okay, oh, so man something this the content of the clip is unimportant, but for the first time they put they Sweaty Sean Spicer got a little a little break. I knew it was gonna happen this woman. Yes, Sarah Huckabee It's Huckabee's kid now. We've played clips of her before how she how she yeah But I never saw her before I didn't know that she was Larger you know she's a plus-sized woman that wears pink six size 16 if she's an ounce oh Well, I would go more to 18 to be honest. But it's not about that. It's her cadence and her diction that gets me. She's terrible. The president said that it's quote, not good. Again, it's not about the question or the answer. Just listen to her. Susan Rice has declined an invitation to testify. Yeah, it's about Susan Rice refusing to testify should she be subpoenaed. Unmasking of US citizens. Does the president think that Congress should subpoena her?

1:42:20 That's a question for Congress, but I do think that it's sad that she has chosen not to be transparent in this process and frankly not to cooperate in this process. We feel very confident that as all of this plays out, it will land on the right side of where we are, but I think it's unfortunate for her and has really no bearing for us. You know who she sounds like? I know who she sounds like that you don't know who she sounds like. I think she sounds like Janet Napolitano. A little bit, but I think she sounds almost exactly the same as Danica Patrick. Oh, I don't have a clip from Danica. Well, what you brought up, did you have a clip from her? Well, I have a clip about her and that's what I think is... Okay, hold on. Let's see. Let's mix these together. Let's see how this works. I got to move that one forward. Here we go. To cooperate in this process of significant intellectual... This plays out.

1:43:20 It will land on the right side of the car, but I think it's unfortunate for her and has really no bearing on that. Huckabee's got more vocal fry. Yeah, but it's still kind of a manly sound they both have. Yeah, it's not similar. It could be boyfriend-girlfriend. Oh yes, if we're lucky. Nepalitano's got her tit in a ringer. Whoa! There's another phrase from the Shays if I ever heard one. It is. That's almost... okay, yeah, yeah. Phrase from the Shays. Tit in a ringer. I don't like the word. Could you just from now on say boob or breast in the ringer? I know you don't like the word tit, but the phrase is tit in a ringer. Yeah, in a ringer. What is a ringer? Like a nipple ring? Or what is a ringer? What? Well, but you tit in a ringer. How did... what is that... where is that from? Wow!

1:44:07 I really don't know. I know you don't. That's why I'm stunned. But I can, I don't know, is it just cut off between our age difference? I guess. I mean, I guess it refers to a washing machine that had the hand wringer at the top. Oh no. That you would stick clothes into. Instead of the dry cycle, you know, then today's modern washing machine, it has a dry cycle. It spins around at high speeds at the end of the washing cycle and blows the water out using centrifugal force and a lot of energy. Before that was invented, probably by Maytag,

1:44:43 They had a ringer at the top of the washing machine and you would stick clothes into the ringer and it was squeezed the water out of the thing it's ever happened someone's got their tit in the ringer That's what it refers to. Oh my goodness again putting this oh my tits in the ringer. That's almost as bad as You know, as a breast screening, mammograms are the worst. I don't even want to think about it. But that's what the phrase means. All right, there we go. All right, so Napolitano apparently is in a heap of trouble. She this is by the way clip is troubling you see audit And there's a woman came on one of the local TV shows and discussed this she put a hundred almost 180 million dollars aside and didn't report it University of California yeah, and it's like you know another reason that you know alumni are gonna donate because what's this money for I think it was for political purposes so she could slip it to Democrats, but

1:45:43 Nobody knows, but here's a little report on it, how much in trouble she might be and she might get fired. Very troubling was the tampering that appears to have happened between the office of the president and the communications that were supposed to go to the auditor. confidentially to give us unfiltered, unadulterated information. They interfered with the investigation that the auditor had and that to me is troubling and the response that the president had. I don't believe she was fully forthright. I know she wasn't in the hearing and that has gravely concerned me. You and some of your Republican colleagues are asking to subpoena some records, budget records, invoices, those kinds of things. What are you looking for? Do you feel like there may have been some

1:46:25 Some law broken perhaps or what? Really for me. I want to get to the facts. That's the first part The office has had a problem with candor both in terms of the financial documents There's still a lot of unanswered questions that that the auditor was unable to get information about we need to get that out there But secondly, is this issue of how the university office of the president interfered with the communications. They actually took some of the input that was supposed to go to the auditor, crossed it out and edited it to make it sound better, and then gave it forward. And that was directed at the highest level from President Napolitano, something that She did not agree with at the hearing and that to me is troubling. I do believe the best way to deal with it is fact-finding subpoenas. Get the full information in a disciplined way so we have the facts. Could you see this leading to her resignation?

1:47:11 leave that up to the regents and the president. But I tell you, this is the most troubling audit I've seen. The auditor said in her testimony on Wednesday, in her 17 years, she has never seen that type of interference in this type of audit report. And that should cause everyone to take a look and see what's the appropriate action. Corruption never dies. Yes, yes. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. And this is, of course, what was mentioned in your clip, which is, will Hillary become a university president? Oh, excellente. Well, that makes nothing but sense. Here's a story. Where was this story from? It may have been Texas. I'm not sure. There's a lot of interesting news about Texas going on, but this is another bad... I consider this bad reporting because I'm going to ask you as if you were the reporter after you play this. This is the rapist freed.

1:48:07 A clip. it's done if it's not done legally. His remarks drew national attention to the case and contributed to a firestorm of anti-immigrant criticism. But the teenagers lawyers said the sex was consensual and was even planned in advance with the young girl. Today state's attorney John McCarthy announced the charges were being dropped. We have concluded that the facts in this case do not

1:48:54 support the original charges filed in this matter. Maria Mena is the lawyer for the 17 year old. This case blew up because they immediately assumed they were immigrants and as a result they immediately assumed they were red Deputy Press Secretary Sarah Sanders filling in today for Spicer was asked if White House rhetoric about immigration is encouraging people to jump to conclusions against immigrants. Not at all. The president has been incredibly outspoken against crime in any form, fashion.

1:49:30 Both teams are still in custody, Scott, and they could be facing lengthy deportation proceedings. Chip Reid for us tonight. Chip, thank you. If you got a racist issue, don't bring someone with a southern accent in as your spokeshole for the White House. I'm sorry. Let's show business, people. Get it together. Well, I agree with that, but the question on my mind is the girl was 14, one of the guys was 18. Isn't that statutory rape? Of course it is. Statutory rape. Wasn't that brought up in the report at all? Okay, now you're asking me something. You're just asking the road you know already. You're asking directions to the house you have been to many times. Well, just doing it. It seems like it's overlooked fact.

1:50:17 And by the way, you also want to ask the question, what 14 year old girl plans on having a couple of guys screw her in the bathroom? Well, I'll tell you, there's a lot of crazy crap going on with sexuality with today's kids, John. The whole idea of pansexuality, open relationships, cuckolding, it's pretty nutty. I gotta tell you. Yeah, tell me what. No, I was just doing it the way you did it. You're doing it like a comedian's kind of thing. I gotta tell ya. It's true though. This is what's happening. Well here's another scandal involving children. Oh thank goodness. Yeah, one more please. I need more.

1:50:55 This is Cars for Kids. Oh no, oh. 1-800-and-the-Kars-for-Kids. K-A-R-S-Kars-for-Kids. The Attorney General of Minnesota is asking questions about Cars for Kids, one of the largest vehicle donation charities in the country. Here's Tony DeCoppo. The car seat didn't even work because I'd had 1-800 and it was 1-877 so something is flawed with their jingle. For kids, Jingle is one of America's best known. And a frequent target for confused late night comics.

1:51:35 But there are new questions about exactly who donors money helps. Minnesota Attorney General Lori Swanson alleges in a new report that between 2012 and 2014, Cars for Kids raised 87 million from donated vehicles. But just 44% of that money went toward charitable programs. And more than 90% of what did go to charity went to one in particular. URA is an orthodox Jewish organization that's not mentioned in the jingle. Its goal is to give Jewish children and their families opportunities to connect with their rich heritage.

1:52:15 And it primarily operates in New York and New Jersey. Attorney General Swanson says the mission of Cars for Kids isn't clear. I think it's important when people donate to a charity that they have information in terms of where their money is going. Minnesota joins other states including Pennsylvania and Oregon pushing for more transparency in how Cars for Kids spends money. Daniel Borikov is president of Charity Watch, which gives Cars for Kids a D rating. My main concern about Cars for Kids is that people don't know what's really happening with this charity. That's fine if people want to raise money for Orthodox Jews, but They need to be clear and state that's what the purpose, that's what the point is. Cars for Kids issued a statement. Since we are headquartered in the Northeast, many of our programs and recipients naturally come from this area. There has never been any question of diversion of funds. In 2015, Cars for Kids told Tablet Magazine that it does not mention OORAH in the ads because there isn't time.

1:53:14 And Minnesota's Attorney General says she has turned her findings over to the IRS, which has the power to revoke Cars for Kids' charitable status. In 2015, Cars for Kids spent $17 million on those ads, according to Charity Watch. And Scott, that's more than it gave to its primary charitable partner. OK, I'm going to give you a clip of the day. I'm going to give you a clip of the day. You deserve this. Got me with that one. Holy moly. URAH.org. URAH.org. Let's see what they have. They've got the... Stars for Jews, it should have been. I like my jingle. The first of all, let's get to this. These guys. Oy. Year-round programs. Yeah, okay. John at Dvorak.org. Okay. They had oy. Summer camps for boys and girls, after-school programs and youth groups, then Torah study and mentor partnerships, mentor and relationship advice for singles,

1:54:03 As j-date probably education assistance and guidance Community programs and events at Torah spot a Torah spot. Wow, that's pretty good I like that. I'm gonna have to look them up the aura. I like it Yeah, it's like they never say what is if cars for kids it is cars for kicking you know I don't know how they dreamed up this idea. They obviously hired a top jingle writer No, I think they blew it because I didn't get the number right I was one eight I knew that the cadence was off, but it's one eight seven seven seven. I know I they didn't did you just miss you miss

1:54:39 I mean, I think one of the things they have to get through in the jingle is the 877, because you would dial 1-800-CARS-4-KIDS and you'd probably get some message. You should do it right now. But everybody's always thought that this was one of the great jingles ever. Yes, and we subscribe to this theory wholeheartedly. Jingles is the way to go. 1-877-K-A-R-S-E. RS let's see what happens when I call that number. Let's see your call cannot be completed. Well there you go Bogus must have done cars for kids. Yes cars for kids a bigger number than K a r s for for K ID yes, I thank you K ID you sure not a Z just to mess with me Okay, let's see what they do

1:55:33 Nothing. Oh, you're welcome. Okay. Okay. They should have reinforced with a jingle here. They should have reinforced. Okay. They mentioned the mentoring. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you should let that go. Oh, please because it's obvious if you dial cars for kids and then they tell you about you make a good point there. Why did I even why did I even stop that? That was a good you made a great point. I'm sorry. Let's listen to it again. That was pretty good. Let's let's select a mentoring option. Shall we?

1:56:09 Yeah. This is crazy. I do. Uh-huh. Alright. Alright. I'm gonna press five. Oh. That's bogus! Yeah, there's no real good information in there. You have to go through a rigamarole. It's racist. It's racist and that's their protection. That's their protection. Separate. Just go to the website. That's where all the information is. I'm sure that has some FTC circumvention built into it. Anyway, good clip. Thank you for bringing that up. I'm going to look into that. And it reinforces... The only reason people have cars that are junk... Yeah, I've done this. I've used them.

1:57:10 You use cars for kids? Yes! Well... Do you remember the Range Rover, the right-hand door wouldn't open anymore? Yeah, the old clunker. Yeah, I just let it die and pick it up. The process was great. I'll bet it is. And I'm now an honorary Jew. Apparently. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Oh, No Agenda! That's how we do it. Jingles work. Fact. We do have a few people to thank since you played the jingle. I did.

1:57:50 Starting with Samuel Lichtenstein in New York City 18655 And he's gonna become a knight today. Oh very nice. And he wants an L sharp. We'll put these at the end. It's not the segment for jingles But he wants a sharpton and a follow by don't eat me Hillary And he's gonna be a knight so I think we can do that Okay, so then what I do all right sharpton with what? Don't eat me Hillary. Don't eat me Hillary. Okay. I wasn't prepared for that. I'm sorry. It's fine. Well. No I like being a little snappier. That's what I mean That's the wrong one everyone says Not the right one it just keep going I'll figure it out. Where's that one? I don't know I okay koshick just put it in yeah at the end chat. What is this?

1:58:45 Chakra borti, Chakra borti in Bangalore, India. Wow! That's one for... That's the first one I think. No, no, we had one other one from India. Okay. And it was about two years ago. Right. And we, after, and that's after we went on a rigmarole rant about India's being ungenerous. Yes. Ungenerous, damn it. It says around here in India it'd be 4.49 kilograms. Hence the increased donation amount 99 plus 44 equals to blah blah blah 143 a proud father of a 10 month old girl pass on my congratulations to Junior and Jesse ah this was a donation in based. Well. You should give your share to the kid yeah screw it I'll give my share to the kid too

1:59:37 You can't get plenty of money. I know. Sir Dirtbag Dave from Concord, California came in 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Hey, thanks Dirtbag Dave. Dirtbag Dave. Good old Dirtbag Dave. He comes in every once in a while. Yeah, he's good old Dirtbag Dave. And he's a dirtbag. What a great nickname. It'd be funny if that was his nickname. Sir Paul Schneider in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. 1-2-3-4-5. Also Sir Steve Taft, in some parts unknown, he's K-A-1-W-X. Yes, he's going to be a baron today and he wants to claim the Gold Branch Trail, a part of the Chattahoochee River National Recreation Area, as his protectorate.

2:00:21 I mean, put a sign on there. Well, yes, and you need to put a sign there and take a picture and claim it. You'll find me there most every Sunday morning enjoying a five mile hike along the river like your podcast. This two hour journey really provides an escape from the crazies of today's world. Please keep up the good fight and I'll do my best to propagate the formula. Perhaps a two doodle ahead along with Hillary's week came. He saw he died and so karma would do it. Definitely give you some karma all that stuff coming up later of course and you're in the ceremony for you to become baron congratulations and he came in One two three two one yes, and 73 is from kilo five alpha Charlie Charlie ditto Sir Baker of $100 parts unknown Robert Evans in San Jose, California 100 Jan Margules in Flagstaff, Arizona 100

2:01:13 Sir Selvarine Knight in exile from California 100, Gerald Parker in Durham, North Carolina 100, and Caleb Holmstrom in Alaska, Wisconsin. Love you guys, he says. Greg Dial, 9999.9999999. Travis Benelli, 9999. And Sir Arthur Gobitz, Gobitz in Zandam, 9900. N.A. Anonymous in Redmond, Washington, 9260. John Clegg in Sunset Beach, North Carolina, 8888. We have a number of people picked up on the boobs. Jay Helset.

2:02:11 Helsal, somewhere. Every show is good for at least one boob, he says. Larry Hay in Mooresville, North Carolina. These are another boob. These are boob donations, all of them. David C. Pugh in Massillon, Ohio. Von Glitchka. Appreciate you and boobs, he says. Peter Strokes, Strokes, Strokes, Strokes in Maastricht. Maastricht. Maastricht. Christopher Utley, also boobs donation. A lot of boobs today. Kevin Thomas boobs from parts unknown. Oh, you missed a dude named Muhammad Ali. Oh, I'm sorry, dude named Muhammad Ali.

2:02:55 Doonay Muhammad Ali, tell Adam to read my email on China-Pakistan Economic Corridor and the de-douche-mate. I did. I did. I read that. I'm going to de-douche it. It was a very good piece. You've been de-douched. Got my eye on it. As you know, I brought it up on the show. So thank you very much for that. Appreciate it. Yes. China's are up to no good. Kevin Thomas, 8008, which is boobs, and Melkor Vonderdecken. in Czechoslovakia. Oh, you know he's in Switzerland, right? No, no, no, that's uh, I think it's Czechoslovakia. It's Melchior. Melchior. Melchior. Vonderdecken. Okay, he could be, he could be a Czechoslovakia, uh, Czech Republic? Yeah, Czech Republic. It says it right there in his note. It does? Yeah. Ah, there it is. Yes, at the top. Yes. Per Ingvar Son.

2:03:47 Per Ingvarsson in Sweden. And he has one note, stay woke! And anyone who saw the newsletter will get the joke. What was it? Just tell us the joke. I photoshopped up a poster for Waters 2020. Ah good. My millennials, stay woke! Excellent. And I put stay woke on it. She's gonna win. Mike Patrel. She's a shoe-in, a shoe-in I tell ya. She is a shoe-in. 6933 Kamloops, British Columbia. Erin

2:04:25 Ahmold in Gatesville, Texas, 6666. Jason Aubrey, Foreman, Arkansas, 6251. Victor Knight of Alabama, Alabama, Alabama, in Decatur, Georgia. This is a donation from Victor Knight of Alabama as a Mother's Day present from my mother, Joanne Eugenia Smith-Greg. She was born on June 8. Relation, perhaps? Could be. Double G as well. She was born on June 1st, 1944 and thus my donation. Very nice. Thank you very much. I'll check with the family, see if we're related. You want to put her on the happy birthday list? Well, it's for Mother's Day. It's for Mother's Day. Oh, Mother's Day. Oh, it's Mother's Day. Right, right, right.

2:05:09 We didn't get that many Mother's Day donations. No, mom. Nelson Seilhan, 60 bucks. Oh, please de-douche me and call out my friend. Hold on, de-douching? You've been de-douched. And call out my friend Kaya as a douchebag. Douchebag. Done. Megan Kendall, 58.85. Kevin Ostrowski in Clinton Township, Michigan. 5733. Now we do have some... Is that Kevin who used to work at Mevio? Ostrowski? Wasn't that his name? He was the... Kevin? Yeah, he was at the... or in his pod show still. I don't know. I don't think so. Okay, I just thought so. He's a birthday boy. Craig Fryczek in Loveland, Colorado. 5617.

2:06:05 Catherine Premo 5617. Now these are Mother's Day donations. Now is there a name associated here? I'm not seeing any. We do have this our wedding day donation from Catherine. Now as we do the 5617s, which there's only two of, I believe it's Mother's Day. Yeah. No, 5617. No, that's the sixth. I don't know what that is. What the hell are you doing, man? I don't know what the answer is. I'm confused. Yeah, you're unhinged. I'm unhinged. Brian Watson, Sugar Grove, Illinois, 5562, for his wife, Sandy Lopez. Happy San Guto Mayo. Christopher Tropp in Sturgis, Michigan, 5562. He's almost a knight. Almost a knight.

2:06:56 Brandon Turner Velez 5555. He has a call back call out for Kyle long He says he won't even buy his girlfriend to watch that actually tells time then I find out he hasn't donated to no agenda Unacceptable glad you're keeping tabs on him KI7HDT, 73s. Yeah, 7 3s. Kilo 5 Alpha, Charlie. Charlie. Benjamin Garcia, 55, 55. Now what happens with him? Is he going to be a knight? What do we... Looks like it. Yes! He's crossed the threshold. He's going to be knight as a dude named Ben Knight of the Health Destiny. Listen to this. He's been donating $15 monthly for two and a half years. Holy crap, man. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you for that. Yeah, no kidding. This is...

2:07:47 Sam Leong in Toronto, 5555. Anonymous, 5517. John Cruz in East Wachahatchee, Wenatchee, Washington, 5517. I'm some about the rain stick. Sir Brian Knight of Northern Connecticut 55 double nickels on the dime. John Shriver double nickels on the dime. He's got a douchebag call out. Believe it's from no, it's just Sir Brian. Sir Brian's got a douchebag call out. My co-worker Simon who claims he'll be donating soon but hasn't yet. Yeah, giving it to him.

2:08:27 Jason Petri, Petrie, sorry, Jason Petrie, 55.10. Kevin Wood in Manchester, New Hampshire, 55.10. Taylor Kuzela in Alpharetta, Georgia, 55.10. Aaron Anderson, 55.05. Says, I'm tired of the news, but I love the show. Tarbin Peterson in Sarpsborg, Norway, 55, nice. Anders Edgvist, 55. In Sweden, 55. What's the 55 in the Nordics? I don't know. Nicholas Cole, San Jose, 53.05. Michael Gates, 52.80. By the way, Nicholas Cole says bozos, one dollar for each hour solid in real golden bozos plus a Cinco de Mayo, 55. Let's get some formula. Hey, I don't argue with math, man. If you add golden bozos to a Cinco de Mayo and you come up with the 53.05, I'm down with it.

2:09:29 Eric Wessel is your, yeah, you're unhinged. Eric Wesseldyke, Portage or Portage, Michigan, 5221. Darren Jones in Cantertown, Missouri, 5150. Now these following ones are Keith Gibson, 5140, Happy Mother's Day, no mother's name is in the note. Laura Williams, same thing, 5140. And Michael Dukak, 5140. Sir Donald Winkler in Berlin, Deutschland got through for his beloved mother Marietta Winkler. Now why are we doing this this week when Mother's Day is next Sunday? Yeah, I wanted to give a build-up. Oh, oh very smart. Yeah, we didn't get that many. One, two, three, four, five, six. In some countries, you know, it's on a different day like Belgium. No, no, the U.S. is only here. Yeah, because we rock.

2:10:28 Yeah, our way is the best. Yeah, don't argue. Michael Chow, 5140. Sir Arthur Gobitz. Gobitz and Zandam. It was Richard Chow. He wants me to say... Oh, man, you nailed it. Seems unlikely. Let me just... Fijne Moedersdag voor Margriet, moeder van Baron de Katjesknuffelaar. There you go. That's what I meant to say. Yeah, and it was Richard Chow, not Michael Chow before that. It's all right.

2:11:04 Oh, it's correct. Kevin Kelly, just to correct me. Kevin Kelly in Portland, Oregon, $51. John Fitzpatrick, 5005 in Herber Springs, Arkansas or Heber Springs. And then Ed Farrell in 5101, parts unknown. Now the rest of the people are $50 donors. I want to thank each and every one of them by name and location. starting with Max Turnquist in Somerville, Massachusetts, Gerald Cummins, parts unknown, Chris Bennett in Victoria, BC, lots of people up there, we have to do a meetup, John Catalano in House Springs, Missouri, Jared Thorpe in Barrie, South Australia, Brian Lesniewski in New York,

2:11:51 somewhere. Stephen Powers, Stephan or Stephen Powers, 50. Justin Armstrong in Silver Springs, Maryland. Peter Benardal in Sweden. And PayPal mangled your town. Why do we have, all of a sudden we have a lot of support out of the Nordic countries? Brian Matthews in Belbrigan. Maybe Red Ice Radio talked about us. Maybe. Guido Dyke, wait a second. It would be Guido, Guido. Guido. Guido. I got the Dykehausen right. Yeah, you did. Dykehausen, pretty good. From Rennen. Rennen, yeah. Rennen. Rennen. Is that enough rolling for you? Yeah, I got it. I wrote down the time. Edward, Missouri. In Memphis, Tennessee, 50. Jonathan Meyers, Zinnia, Ohio. Bermont,

2:12:51 Oh yeah, Beaumont, Proudfoot. And Halliday's Point in Australia. David Schlesinger in Rosemont, Illinois. Tim Ebel in Burgfield, Berkshire, UK. Gene Ablin in Sonora, California. Fabrice Chumie somewhere. Patrick Gossick in Buckeye, Arizona. Stephen Chipman, one of the two, in San Rafael. Richard Adams, parts unknown. Gary Wiley, parts unknown. Jason Deluzio, our regular from Chatsford, Pennsylvania. Sir Brett Farrell in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Sir Brian Watson in Raleigh, North Carolina. And last but not least, Sir Paul from Horseheads, who is now gonna be upgraded to Baronet.

2:13:42 And does he have a note we need to read? No, he just wanted to let us know he thinks the show is great and he's upgraded to Baronet. Good. Good showing everybody. Thank you. This is what producing is about. Now you're talking. Good. Good. Makes up for... it was a pretty slow month. Thank you. These of course are the people who came in at $50 or above. Usually below it. I'm sorry. Usually below it is for... what are you sorry about? Well, Horseheads wants you to add, if he can, although he's not getting listed on this, but he wants you to put on the chicken spideys, speedies, speedies at the Fest of the Roundtable? I don't even know what this is. Well, I... Never mind. Okay. I think there is one knight that came in under the $50 level. This is John Owen. Did we mention him?

2:14:43 Knight of the Armament? I guess we did, didn't we? Uh... yeah. Okay. Maybe not. Well, hmm, let me see. I've finally gotten off my ass and finished my knighthood after several years of my final knight payment of 150.81. I guess, I don't remember. Then double 33 to finally get a producership. I would like to be knighted Sir... Johnny O. Knight of the Armament? Yeah, no, it's Sir John Owen. We have it as John Owen. John Owen okay, we did that all right, but he won lead slingers whiskey and gunpowder added to yes Yeah, we read that did I yeah? It's up on the I'm unhinged you're unhinged man To 1747 yeah, you're right. I'm unhinged Okay, then I have one other thing. I got a very nice package from nurse Caitlin. Oh, I got my soap from her Yes from the sweet Carolina soap

2:15:33 SweetCarolinaSoap.com, Adam just wanted to share some of my handmade soap with you and John. Trying to do my part to ensure we live in a relatively capitalistic state. Okay, LOL, got it, Nurse Caitlin, thank you. I didn't take the pizza stone out of the box. It's in the car. And I got stopped by the CHP for carrying too heavy a load. No! Don't do that to me, man. You know you can it confuses me. One other thing I need to mention is Dame Angela Castaneda and Tina the Keeper are now working on our Australia tour, the Australia trip. So again, we're looking at the last two weeks of July, last week of July, first two weeks of August. And this is very aggressive. So I don't think we're gonna be able to make this in three weeks, but I'll give you the route

2:16:27 As I propose that in my head, according to geography, not necessarily smartness. But you know, there are direct flights to Perth. And honestly, we've gotten a lot of people from Perth. You can't do it. Can't do what? You can't do what you just, what I think you're going to say you're going to do. Oh, well then tell me what I'm going to do. You're going to go to too many places. Yeah, yeah. But here's what I'd like to do. and then we're gonna have to fix it. Okay, so I'm just putting this out there so everyone can weigh in. And the problem is we do have a lot of people coming in from Perth who said, geez, we'd love to have you guys. So we could fly direct from Texas to Perth, then go to Melbourne, then hop to Auckland, Wellington, and Christchurch in New Zealand. So you're gonna avoid Sydney and the Opera House? Will you let me finish? No. From Melbourne, we go to Auckland, Wellington, and Christchurch. Then we go up to Brisbane,

2:17:29 Down through Gold Coast to Sydney and then from Sydney back to Texas. Not happening. Well, you're gonna get divorced if you try to do this. You can spend all your time on an airplane. I'm not married. Well, she'll get married and then divorce you immediately because of this trip. What do you suggest? What do you recommend? I don't recommend anything. My recommendation, it's gonna be three weeks, so that's an advantage. My recommendation is to go to the northernmost town in Australia and then skirt the coast all the way down to the wine country and hit all the big cities and then go over to New Zealand and then leave. I don't think you can do Perth. Poor Perth. Now you're telling me there's a direct flight from Austin to Perth? Yeah, I believe so.

2:18:25 That's weird. Yeah, well there's also direct flights not from Austin from Houston. There's direct flights from Houston to Is it on Southwest? Just putting it out there we're working on it, but I was thinking regardless this is not cheap this this trip So it's gonna be a money loser. So maybe Maybe I can just sell all my junk Oh, here we go. There's the segue. I held on to it for an hour or so. It was hard. With the Tourettes, it's hard. And I'll tell you what I'm referring to. Before the show started,

2:19:06 We were talking about Adam's junk. And by junk we mean his electronic gear. Which includes some stellar pieces of technology from yesteryear. Huge collectibles that are just, he was just gonna toss. I was gonna tell the Mexicans, hey come here, you gotta take everything. I don't wanna see it. Yeah, next thing you know they have a station up and running. Yes, it sounds just like that. And so we were discussing this and we started talking about how we could sell it and all the rest. He says, oh no, no, save it for the show. I'll have a very slick way of introducing the topic. I forgot all about it until just now. I'm so good. You know, I'm doing all this on the fly too, John.

2:19:53 No. I hope you're impressed. Alright everybody, so we'll update you as that goes along. Thank you very much. And remember, we do have another show coming up on Sunday. We need all the help we can get. Dvorak.org slash N-A. Everybody who needs it. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. It's your birthday, birthday. And John Coke says happy birthday to his wife Sherry. Megan Kendall, happy birthday to her husband John Kendall, celebrates tomorrow. Kevin Ostrowski, 33 today. D Mackie, 29 and wow. On Mayo the 4, happy birthday from John as well as the child, aka baby Dvorak, born on Cinco de Mayo. Happy birthday from all you buddies here at The Best Podcast.

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2:22:50 En Marche! Viva la France. Obama has done it again. Yes, ladies and gentlemen. Viva the Fourth Reich. Viva la France. Thanks, Obama. You know, these guys have tried and tried and tried, and I think this, at least this technique didn't involve bombing anybody. Not this time. And we do have a couple of nights, so let's just grab our swords here for a second so we can do... There's mine. Yeah, let me get mine. Hang on a second. Okay, I got it. Perfect. Alright, John Turek, John Owen, Samuel Lichtenstein and Benjamin Garcia. Gentlemen, step on up to the podium here next to the lectern. It is time for you to take your well-deserved seats at the No Agenda Roundtable where we house our knights and our dames. And I am therefore very proud to pronounce the K.D. as Sir John of Shinglehouse, Sir Johnny O., Knight of the Armament, Sir Sam of Battery Park City and as Sir

2:23:39 a dude named Ben, knight of the help desk for you gentlemen. We have lead slingers, whiskey and gunpowder, brisket and brown ale, malt vinegar and manual transmissions, Nicaraguan cigars, rolled in Panama papers. We got whiskey and bacon. We got sake and sushi. We got gaseous and sake, vodka and vanilla, breast milk and pablum, ginger ale and gerbils, sparkling cider and escorts, and mutton and mead at the end of the list. NoahGeneration.com slash rings. Go ahead and pick up your stuff right there. And, uh, oh, I lip smacked. And we will, uh... You did. Yeah, and please make sure that you, uh, tweet and toot out a picture. iPhone schmiphone! A little bit of tech news I thought might be fun for just a moment. Just a brief little bit of, uh, tech news. Um, is it my perception, or is Richard Stallman everywhere these days?

2:24:35 I haven't even heard of him. I mean recently I know him personally, but it's very I haven't seen this you but you're in a different you're in a different milieu than I am apparently well on the YouTubes and he's doing podcasts and He is he's doing pie and it's very difficult because he either uses free software then that doesn't mean free as in no cost but free as in it You are free to do with it as you like, including changing it. He's using GNU podcasting machines. Yes, he's using GNU video chat, so he won't do Skype with anybody. But he is in the studio and he's doing conferences and he's around. And I just thought this one little statement, which I picked up from the David Pakman show. It's a podcast and also it's a video thing on YouTube.

2:25:24 Because I like, I like Stallman. He's idealistic. You know, we need these kinds of people in our world. We need people like Stallman. By the way, do you have a window open or something? There's a lot of noise coming from your end. No, no. Fan? No, nothing like that? Nothing's changed. Hmm. Just this little bit, because you know, if you don't understand the difference between GNU, GNU Linux, all this stuff, there was just something I picked up here that was, I just like, whoa, I didn't realize this. And it's important because we talk about it all the time. In 1998, The free software movement was hit by a co-optation campaign designed to separate our software from our philosophy of freedom. That campaign goes by the name open source. Now the reason you've heard that term so much is that a lot of companies preferred

2:26:14 to talk about open source and they wanted the media to talk about open source precisely because that didn't rock the boat. It didn't criticize their proprietary software, didn't call it an injustice. So the companies have put their weight behind the use of the superficial term that doesn't raise ethical issues. It's very PR friendly to say something is open source, right? Right. And they've talked about our work in connection with their slogan so much that most people think that's what I stand for. I refuse to go normally to any event that uses the term open source because I don't want to feed that error.

2:26:55 In 1992, the GNU system was almost complete. One component was missing. And then Mr. Torvalds released a program called Linux, which did that job. So Linux filled the last gap in the GNU system. But lots of people got confused and they thought that the whole combination was this one piece Linux. So if people say that they're using Linux, they're actually using GNU with Linux. I don't know what the hell he was really saying, but I like the fact that he's unhinged.

2:27:43 Stallman had wormed his way into creating these light this these canoe licenses are extremely onerous for anyone who actually wants to yeah, yeah you Ownership of it none Well, worse than that, if you hook to a GNU program with this onerous license, the GPL, whatever, General Assembly License 3, whatever the number is, I don't know, I don't care. But I do know this. You hook to this, boom, your software's automatically covered by it and you just gave your software a way to the point. The GPL, yeah, that's correct. The GPL, right.

2:28:20 So you just gave your software away to the public. So a whole business emerged, and I'm surprised he doesn't talk about this since we're on tech news, I can discuss it. That's why I brought it up. You're the guy, you're my go-to guy. So the whole business, a whole business emerged, and I said that when I thought I was going to talk about it, and it did happen, I believe it was in the 90s. A business emerged of companies that could create what's called a shim, And a shim was a code that you could place between GNU Linux, and this was done mostly by legal firms, legal companies had the dream. So you had something that was a, had the GPL that was the zonerous GPL, and you wanted to use that software, but you wanted to add some proprietary software of your own. Right. You couldn't do that under GPL. You couldn't do it. It just was impossible. You might as well just give your software away. You couldn't start a business. It was very,

2:29:19 It was anti-mercantile. It seemed to me to be a bad idea because there's no progress that could be made because somebody along the line might want to make five bucks and you can't do it. So there were these companies that came in. Hold on, that's not true. You're allowed to sell GNU GPL licensed software. It's just you have no protection that means because your software also because it's like it means that if I tell you if I sell you a copy Yes, you can just give a thousand copies away after that's correct. Yes, that's correct. Yeah, that's I'm just saying but you can charge for it. It's just there's the model is not locked in yeah once yeah exactly charge for it one. What's your problem? Haven't you seen installment? Yeah, it looks like a successful guy

2:30:03 Now, so these shims were invented, these little pieces of code that you could stick in between your proprietary software. Howard Baetjer Oh, this I didn't know. So it was like a firewall of code, so it would not contaminate, the GPL code would not contaminate your proprietary code. John Maass Yes. And so it was just bogus code. It was just like something to say, well, I'm here just to be this... Howard Baetjer Like a proxy. John Maass I'm a washer. Howard Baetjer A slowdown in performance is what it sounds like. Somehow along the lines something broke with this this idea. I don't know what they're doing nowadays I suppose I should I know a couple of guys that are lawyers that only deal with this I should get a hold of one of them I'm interested and ask him what the latest is because there's always some scheme to circumvent the GPL Yeah, and I don't think shims work. I think The shim

2:30:56 What is a shim? A shim is like, you got to... Okay, here's an example of a shim. You're at a table, the table's wobbly. One leg is too short. You stick a matchbook underneath the one leg and stabilize it, that's a shim. Now can you... Is a shank a shim? A shank? No, a shank's not a shim. It's a shim that goes into a human person. That's a shank. Yeah, no, it's a wedge. It's a wedge. A shim is a shank. I don't think so. Okay. Alright. So a shim is... A shim is a shim. And it's triangular in shape, or it can be just... it doesn't matter? No, no, it could be like a washer. Oh, a washer is a shim. Well, a washer is really a washer. A shim is something that was not meant to be. Uh-huh. Got it. It's like an ad-libbed washer. Okay, I got it. I'm good.

2:31:47 It's a very common term if you ever worked in a factory. However, I am pleased with the free software. I think it's very important. You use LibreOffice, so can kids in Africa. Everyone can use LibreOffice. This is very good. I also use Audacity. Yeah, exactly. Audacity and Mastodon. Isn't that's another great example. Mastodon, yeah. Another great example. So I have no complaints about free software. No, none. But I think the term is free software should be free. But the term I think it's important, the terminology that's understood. Free software versus open source. Versus GNU. Versus GNU. That's right. A recursive joke it is. Very funny.

2:32:25 Alright, thank you very much. That's it for tech news everybody. Better than you get anywhere else on a Sunday. And the phone should be made out of Bakelite. That's right, no one brings you tech news. We're not like the tech horn. We bring you something that matters, that you care about. I think. How many people really care about any of that? I think some people out there care about it. Anyway, Stallman out on the prowl. Like I said, I didn't have any clue about this. I do have the most recent politically correct term that has cropped up amongst the social justice warriors in the world. It is time for our Latin friends to get in on the action. And the new term is LatinX. LatinX. Has it got a dash? Nope.

2:33:10 It's Latin with a word with an X at the end. Yeah, so instead of Latino, it looks like Latins. Latinx. Latinx. Latinx. Latinx. Latinx, but Latinx. Then this is done to de-genderize the Spanish language. Oh, good luck. Because, well, because why is it just Latina or Latino? And it turns out those damn men, the damn The Latin patriarchy is needs to be brought down and destroyed witness this clip from YouTube 10 annoying things all Latin next do what the heck is Latin X? Okay, so these are two guys are talking and one says what the hell is Latin X? He explains it and then in comes the host hashtag cat to explain it all to us Is that what Latinos were why they got to go and ruin the Spanish language for it so complicated to say whoa

2:34:06 Whoa, whoa, the only thing that's complicated around here is that outfit. This is the catcall and I'm calling this shit out. The catcall is calling this shit out, bruh. Two main reasons why Latinx is used. One, to dismantle the patriarchy. The Spanish language is gendered. Almost all of our words are male or female, like amigas or amigos. But we use the male term as a universal term for everyone. So for example, if there's a room full of three women, we'd say, I'm with mis amigas. But the minute one man enters, it becomes, I'm with mis amigos. The ex in Latinx is an effort of pushing against the masculine term dictating our language. Using terms like policeman or mankind, subconsciously tell women and girls that they are included, limiting the possibilities they create. I don't like the sound of it because the music kills the whole concept of what she's saying. I don't think it comes across well. You gotta watch the video, I guess.

2:34:59 Well, they could do this with French. Well, this is of course the point, is like, really, so many languages have gender built right into it. Now you're really going to the core. The core of everything. These people are unhinged. We may sound unhinged, but they're really unhinged when they're dead. We have to fight this. We can't have the male just dominating in language? No. Oh, jeez. It's horrible. I don't know what to make of that. No, not much. It's the beginning of the end. I have a news story. Let's do this. All right. Because this is another one of those stories that was not carried. I've been listening to the different news channels. Only RT carries this sort of thing. Maybe this is fake news. This is kind of plays in with the Saudis becoming members, one of the core members of the UN group for women. Ah, the UN. Women's Reich.

2:36:05 Women's rights. I like women's rights. Well, the women's Reich that could be. But this is a Saudi, this is about a Saudi woman that seems like it's a good international story that nobody wants to pay any attention to, especially if you're kissing the butts of the Saudis. But this Saudi woman, part one from RT. The Saudi king has issued a decree which will allow women to get some state services without the need for a male guardian's permission. It's a bid to slightly relax rules for women in the country. Saudi Arabia has been slammed for a poor women's rights record and gender inequality. In a recent case that hit the headlines, a woman seeking to flee to Australia was forced back to the kingdom. All right, so some woman

2:36:52 I don't know, offended her family or something and they were going to kill her. And so she takes off like a rocket and tries to go to Australia. And so let's go to part two and start to hear about it. According to reports, Dina Ali Lasloom was seeking asylum in Australia when she was stopped on a layover in the Philippines on April 10th. Videos posted online show Lasloom at Manila's international airport pleading not to be returned because she feared her family would kill her. In the recordings, Leslum said the Philippine authorities had taken her into custody. They took my passport and locked me for 13 hours just because I'm a Saudi woman. She sounds like the fish girl, doesn't she?

2:37:32 Yeah, it's all changes is fish like me for 13 hours just because I'm a saudi woman With the collaboration of Saudi embassy if my family come they will kill me if I go back to Saudi Arabia I will be dead. Please help me Human Rights Watch says two men identified as Leslum's uncles arrived at the Manila airport tied duct tape around her feet and hands before forcing her onto a flight from Manila to Riyadh on April 11th. According to Reuters, several passengers said they had seen a woman being carried onto the plane screaming. One woman told Reuters, I heard a lady screaming from upstairs then I saw two or three men carrying her. They weren't Filipino, they looked Arab.

2:38:16 The Saudi embassy in Manila issued a statement saying Lasloom's case was a family matter, insisting the woman had returned with her relatives to the homeland. Human Rights Watch says Lasloom's whereabouts are currently unknown. The organization is calling on the Saudi authorities to disclose where and when she was taken. with whom and under what conditions the 24-year-old is being held. In Saudi Arabia, women are legally subject to a male guardian who must approve basic decisions on education, marriage, travel. Saudi women are barred from driving and must obey a strict dress code of loose robes and face coverings in public.

2:38:52 To the shock of many, the repressive treatment hasn't prevented Saudi Arabia's recent appointment to the U.N.'s Women's Rights Commission, a global intergovernmental body exclusively dedicated to the promotion of gender equality and the empowerment of women. I don't understand this. This culture. I think in the West, you know, guys would love to have their women as slaves. I think that deep down there's some DNA thing that, you know, yeah, but whenever we think about them, we don't want them covered up. We want them in bathing suits, you know, hot, carrying AK-47s or AR-15s, you know, gun belts strapped around them, wearing cowboy boots with the bikini.

2:39:38 Why do these guys want them all covered up? You can continue. They got the slave part right, but they messed up all the rest. I don't know. It's just an annoyance that, and if you, this part three, which is the last part of this clip, they talk about as well, they want to, they had to get this woman back because she's going to deliver bad news or she's going to embarrass the kingdom and all the rest. And I've said this before, from my experiences in the Middle East, although I have not been to Saudi Arabia, I'd love to visit mainly just to have the chicken. There's a, there's a chicken, it's a fact.

2:40:15 There's a chicken man. Yeah, of course a chain of chicken rest screw everything else the chicken the chain chicken chain of chicken restaurants Okay, what's the chain of chickens L cuz something or other I have a al-kebab Okay, no, it's not al-kebab, but I'll get I'll put the chicken picture of the chicken restaurant in the next newsletter Yes, I think you should talk about why is it chicken the chicken everybody? We're Saudi haters rave about this chicken. I And I think the recipe is even online. Durka Durka Chicken? No, it's not Durka Durka Chicken. It's got an L or something in it. Los Polos Hermanos? That's in Mexico City, it sounds like. I don't know it. No, this is... Okay, I love it. But I haven't been to Saudi Arabia. I've already had the chicken. But the stories that people who go there a lot, they just shake their heads and say, you know, what are you going to do?

2:41:13 No one ever takes him to task. Nobody cares. It was Breaking Bad, by the way. That was a Breaking Bad reference. I never watched it. I've only watched like three episodes and I did catch one of the great episodes of Breaking Bad where the head is on top of the tortoise. That's one of the first season. That's very good. A very good episode and very funny. Sick sense of humor. And the bell. That's the old man in the wheelchair with the bell. All right. Third clip. All right, let's finish.

2:42:04 are under 30, that they committed what they call a moral crime. Unfortunately, it's not unique. It happened before. But we don't really know the victims' names. That doesn't mean they don't exist. This has happened many times when women wants to flee the country. They don't just track or women or just held women in the country. Even if we try to leave the country, they try to go after us, like what happened to Dean Ali. There is also a similar case that happened to three women who fled Saudi Arabia and stopped in Malaysia, and the Saudi embassy actually

2:42:43 offered financial reward for whoever fined them, because the subject of Saudi women causing the Saudi government international embarrassment. So they want to make sure that these women, when they flee the country, they don't speak about what's going on inside Saudi Arabia. Weird guys, man. What kills me, or what kills her eventually, is what kind of What kind of country is the Philippines that just... what is it? She's got legal paper, she's got a ticket. Yeah. Thanks Philippines. They're getting picked up. Just like rendition. Yeah. Of course we do that so I guess that's... I guess that's what... we're the model for the whole thing. We are. Again, we're the best.

2:43:32 Yeah, we're number one. This was a disturbing report it picked up on RT and it's getting a little credence in circles. The government wants to oblige companies to remove electronic. This is about the UK government, the UK government. Electronic protection from communications like WhatsApp and other internet messaging apps. This is called backdoor access and the concern surrounding it is that it could be exploited by hackers or terrorists. Many viewers will recall that the UK's Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, complained about encryption in the wake of the Westminster terror attack in March. The plan is to force

2:44:25 force internet service providers and phone companies to hand over suspects' communications within one day of the authorities asking for them. Companies will have to be able to provide this for one in every 10,000 customers, which according to estimates equates to around 6,500 Brits at any one time, which is effectively a recipe for real-time mass surveillance. In order to do this, authorities will need the approval from a secretary of state and a special judicial commissioner that would be appointed by the prime minister. So, it would have to be sanctioned by senior government figures, and it would be in secret. And in relation to these leaked specifics, well, we've asked the Home Office, and they've told us that there's nothing new in the consultation, that it merely relates to technical details

2:45:14 of powers that are set out in the Investigatory Powers Act already. The story really is that there is the Parliament in England is trying to make encryption illegal. That's what the report was about. Yeah, I know, but it was just poorly presented. Oh, it's RT. It's fake news. Well, they sometimes they do a good job. We've been trying to do that here for years and it's been unsuccessfully and the real problem is not that they can't or won't do it is that the banks won't allow it. Yeah, yeah, the banks cannot afford to have their data streams floating around wide open. They just can't do it. So if you let them encrypt, you have to let, you know, what if the banks can encrypt and you can encrypt. Yeah, exactly. And we do. We encrypt a lot of stuff. Yeah. At least most people. In fact, well, we're being forced to when we are now forced into encryption.

2:46:14 We have HTTPS everywhere everybody because Google is starting to delist us. If your websites aren't HTTPS then you're less trustworthy. We're getting that little guy on Firefox, the little burglar with a little burglar mask. You know, like stealing stuff out of your computer. Thanks Google. Well that's not Google. But it is Google's initiative. Dooshbags. Want a little update on how we're doing with connecting the Trump administration to Russia? Oh, that's yes. Yes, that story continues unabated. It includes a song. Ah, we got a song now. Yes, this is a Brolf. We all brolf from the CNN's with Dianne Feinstein getting a little update. I know that you and some of your colleagues from the Senate Intelligence Committee drove over to Langley, Virginia yesterday to CIA headquarters and you were briefed. Here's the question. You don't have to provide us with any classified information.

2:47:12 Senator, but do you believe, do you have evidence that there was in fact collusion between Trump associates and Russia during the campaign? Not at this time. Well, that's a pretty precise answer. I know the investigation is continuing. Themes about Russia and what Trump is trying to hide Conway and Spicer say things are nicer than what they're willing to confide Dudes think that this is just fake news I know they're wrong, wait and see They will find it, the Russia connection The Donald, the Putin

2:48:04 There you go, everybody. Where do you get that but on the best podcast in the universe, huh? Who's our Kermit? That's good. That's Walker. Walker Osler, one of our producers, bringing us the Russian connection from Kermit the Frog. He does a good Kermit. He does a very good Kermit. And I like that Diane's like, meh, there's nothing yet. I'm still working it. Yeah. There's gotta be something here. There's gotta be something under here. Well, here's another interesting little clip that could have been connected to my earlier clip about France and the poor Valley of Yon. This German military story asks more.

2:48:44 You get a question comes out of this story and I'm going to ask it of you. Well, the recent case of a racist German soldier allegedly plotting a terror attack while posing as a Syrian refugee has put the spotlights on what is going on inside the German military. Well, now the Bundeswehr investigators say that they have looked into almost 300 soldiers with possible neo-Nazi views. This week, the defense minister, Ursula von der Leyen, criticized her own Bundeswehr for what she called a weak leadership. Here's more. German defense minister Ursula von der Leyen visited the French city of Ilkirch near Strasbourg on Wednesday. The arrested officer Franco A was stationed here, serving as lieutenant in the Franco-German brigade.

2:49:32 He was arrested last week for planning a terrorist attack, posing as a Syrian refugee. Evidence of his far-right views first surfaced in 2014. So, this story, we've actually covered this a couple of times earlier, because it's about a month old. But I had no idea there was a German Franco brigade outside of Strasbourg with a bunch of German soldiers in France already. Yeah, it's starting. Starting? I think there's been going on. I think we've just been behind the...

2:50:08 Behind the curve. I've got no Americans media talks about this, but this the fourth Reich how many how big is the is the brigade? What is the brigade? 144 is that a what's a Look it up. I really love that Book of Knowledge. I really love that accent the reporter had I Yeah, it's a dead German accent is sexy German. Yeah He was arrested last week for planning a terrorist attack posing as a Syrian refugee you will come here I'm going to VIP. Oh, yeah, did you like it? Nice good accent Brigade brigade I didn't look up the brigade

2:50:58 Or let's play this clip. Here's another one. Another one that brings, again, these stories crop up and they, to me, bring up a question I ask immediately and it's not answered. Okay, how about gays on the gays clip gays on Chechnya the leaders of Germany and Russia have held talks in Sochi Angela Merkel and Vladimir Putin agreed that more must be done to end the Syrian conflict where Russia supports the government of Barsha al-assad Johnson Merkel also urged President Putin to ensure the rights of the persecuted gay community in Chechnya Did you know about this? No. The persecuted gay community in Chechnya? Isn't it predominantly Muslim? Isn't it Muslim up there? Yeah, it's mostly Muslim. Are they persecuted Muslim gays? Does it have to do with their religion or just gays that are persecuted? Who's persecuting them? I don't know! No. Okay, we'll look into it. I haven't heard from Brian the Gay Crusader in a while. This is kind of his beat. I think you insulted him. I did not.

2:52:02 How'd that come out? I did not! Did not insult him. Mm-hmm. No. Oh man, you know, I was in the elevator of the new building the other day. And yeah, I've been bringing boxes down. I'm sweaty. I'm just wearing my blue jeans. I'm just sweaty. I look a mess. I look horrible. I'm 52. I look like shit if I don't work on it. And then in the ground floor, two gay guys walk in. And one, I mean, one is like really, he's got the, he's got shorts on, he's got Gucci shoes, a little Gucci bag, you know, he's just, you know, he's got the polo, everything. And I swear to God, he, he looked at me and looked me up and down and then turned his head away. Like I was like not worthy and it really hurt my feelings. Did he turn his head away in such a way that his hair, you know, flew? No, it's the short, short hair. So I felt like a woman for a minute, you know? That's like what women feel like when men do that. It was pretty, it didn't feel good. I admit it.

2:52:53 Brother yeah, I'm just telling you just telling you okay. We should wrap this up. Well. We got it We can't wrap right away because we got I just want to make sure we're caught up. Okay. You are gonna catch us up Okay, let's go with this one. This is the Zika is back. Oh, thank goodness. Spring is here, the temperature is rising and with it the threat of Zika virus spread by mosquitoes. Small heads are coming! There is an outbreak already in Brownsville and McAllen, Texas in the Rio Grande Valley. So far this year, 18 women have been infected with the virus linked to birth defects. Here's Dr. John LePook.

2:53:32 When we first met 23-year-old Rocio Morado of Brownsville, Texas last month, she was 36 weeks pregnant and doctors were seeing problems with her baby on ultrasound. We do see some calcifications in the brain. Morado tested positive for Zika infection. The virus is carried by mosquitoes both in Brownsville and across the border in Mexico, where she visited family early in her pregnancy. I'm kind of sad, but I know everything is going to be okay. This is her baby, Hugo. How are you feeling right now as a new mother? I feel so happy. I'm so in love with him. Did he have a big head? He looked normal to me. Maybe, I don't know. Regular head or small head? What did he have? He had a regular head. So then there's not a problem. Well, yet. Well this report, they're not doing well. You know?

2:54:25 Zika zika zika zika zika. Yeah, we said where's the money? 1.9 billion dollars. Zika zika zika zika zika. Yeah. Where's the money? Small heads are coming. You're gonna do what you want. Small heads are in our future. Thank you for updating us on that. Okay, the last update, rest we can move forward. You know about the assassination attempt? Yes, the kid, Un. Yeah, yum yum. Yeah, Kim Jong Kim. Um, yum yum yum. Yes assassination attempt. Here we go Do you need to set it up or is that it? No, I think that's it North Korea has accused the US and South Korean spy agencies of an unsuccessful assassination attempt on leader Kim Jong on now state TV in North Korea claims that South Korean agents

2:55:12 bribed a North Korean working in Russia in order to carry out this alleged plot. The plan, they say, was to attack Kim during a public event with a biochemical weapon supplied by the CIA. Now, just as North Korea's projection of itself to the world, life under North Korea's dictatorship remains tightly controlled. Hundreds of citizens risk their lives every year just to escape, and many are just children. Well, I didn't let this clip go any further because it became a propaganda clip for North Korea hate. And it was about children suddenly. I don't know how that relates to the assassination attempt, but it was a very...and it wasn't even a smooth transition. Did I not read somewhere that the GCHQ or someone...I have to look that up for Sunday show. I read that there was... Today's Sunday. I mean, the Thursday show. There was something to that.

2:56:06 There's something to this assassination attempt. There was some admission somewhere. It was right before the show. I caught something. Let's find out what it is, because I didn't hear any of this other stuff. Yeah, I'm going to. Yeah, who knows? It is what we do. Yes. It's not like that's a surprise. I do have some funny stuff that I'm going to move to Thursday. Just crazy Trump stuff. Like really unhinged. Oh no. Which was missed. Yeah, it was missed. It was missed this week by everybody. So I got off C-SPAN. I thought it was very funny. So you'll get that. And here, we're gonna be... I'll put the picture of the chicken shop in the newsletter. Yes, please. Yes, I'm very excited about this. Let's see if there's franchising opportunities for Texas. And I think there's a recipe for this chicken online, because I was...

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