Episode 923 · Sunday, 23 April 2017

Terror Put

Market manipulation meets domestic terror in Germany while Silicon Valley billionaires fund a coordinated campaign to purge conservative voices from the American cable news landscape.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 923

About this episode

A suspect in the Borussia Dortmund team bus bombing attempted to profit from the attack by placing put options on the team’s stock, a maneuver dubbed the Terror Put. This incident highlights a disturbing intersection of market manipulation and violence, drawing comparisons to suspicious trading activity observed prior to the September 11 attacks. The suspect allegedly sought to net $1 million from the resulting price drop but was caught after purchasing a massive volume of options on the day of the explosion.

In the United States, the media landscape shifts as Bill O’Reilly exits Fox News while organizations like Color of Change and Media Matters target Sean Hannity for a similar advertiser boycott. Facebook co-founder Dustin Moskovitz and his company Asana reportedly provided $1.5 million to fuel these activist campaigns. Meanwhile, Bill Nye faces criticism for his interpretation of Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution during the March for Science, where he claimed the government is mandated to fund specific scientific agendas. In San Francisco, a localized power outage exposed the vulnerabilities of the Internet of Things as electronic door locks failed, leaving residents and dog walkers stranded.

Becky Beaver and other activists joined the March for Science in Austin, where children were filmed reacting to Bill Nye in what appeared to be a cult-like display. Todd Brink achieved knighthood as Sir Macaroni au Fromage following a significant contribution to the show’s value-for-value model. The episode concludes with a look at the reproducibility crisis in science, noting that Bayer Healthcare could only replicate 25% of major drug discovery studies.


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CHAPTER 01 / 41 Discussion

Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 923 Introduction

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 923 of the No Agenda show from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley. Curry describes listening to KAZI 88.7, a non-profit urban radio station in East Austin, during his drive on Earth Day. The hosts set the stage for a discussion on social justice and media deconstruction.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· austin· silicon valley· kazi 88.7· earth day

00:00 Hey, you know what happened to me? Adam Curry. John C. DeVorah. And Sunday April 23rd 2017 this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 9 or 2 3 This is no agenda Saving the Earth one social justice warrior at a time and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet here in the capital of the drone star state downtown Austin Tejasi In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley I'm John C. DeVore, I...

00:49 Well, good morning to you John. And a morning to you Mr Adam Curran and all the ships at sea. Oh I'm sorry. It's a little bit early. Later later. Well we saved the earth once again. Oh brother he ruined the news cycle! It was really interesting and i'm pissed...I was driving around yesterday and there's this station-and I tried to record it just sounded like crap-the station in Austin 88.7 KAZI which is..i think it functions under a bill like an NPR type license? It's nonprofit And it started in 1986. Oh no, I looked it up they got a kilowatt FM, Kilowatt FM So they blanket you know most of the neighborhood well It's there in East Austin because it's a complete urban station so all black and if that was funny yesterday with Earth Day

CHAPTER 02 / 41 Discussion

Becky Beaver, Austin March for Science and New York Times Reporting

Austin divorce lawyer Becky Beaver posted on social media about joining the March for Science, which the hosts characterize as a social mixer. Beaver shared a New York Times article suggesting James Comey's actions influenced Hillary Clinton's election loss. The hosts also critique the New York Times website's visual design, specifically an animated GIF of the Uber CEO.

becky beaver· march for science· new york times· james comey· hillary clinton· uber ceo

01:39 Why? Oh, just language. You know it's just like yeah that's right that's how we roll with the mo earth you know just whoa I tried to...I was holding my phone up in the car to the speaker trying to record it and it would sound like crap It was fantastic! I got off the face bag I gotta read this one too This is great So there's a very famous divorce lawyer in Austin who I happen to know not because she represented anybody at any party anything that I was partying to but You dated her? No, no. I actually met her at a party and she introduced herself Her name is Becky Beaver. I'm like wow have you ever considered radio that's a great DJ name Hey everybody! Becky Beaver with ya here till 12 o'clock

02:20 She's a famous divorce. You got all kinds of jokes you can do it with the Becky Bieber, you know log rolling Yeah taking a bite out of the hits So what was interesting is we had Earth Day and then kind of combined this weekend with the March for science So, so this is...so here's Becky's post. As I head to the streets yet again to join others in supporting science and wondering- Wait wait how many times does she go into the streets to support science? How often does this happen in Austin? She should have put a comma there I think because you went to the street of course for the million women thing Yeah The Women March And I'm sure she's...in Austin

03:03 There's a lot of women who come out for these marches. Sure, okay so as I get for dates is there these are mixers it's your style of mixer in Austin? It's a mixer! It's kind of that way... As they head to the streets yet again and um you know but yet again to join others in supporting science. Yeah like that hat you've got where'd you get that one mine's pink where did you get them what did you get that where'd you get the blue one made it myself As I head to the streets yet again to join others in supporting science and wondering how my teachers in Anson High School could have ever anticipated that five decades later we live in a country where we actually have to march to defend science...

03:45 It seemed important to share yet another excellent piece of reporting from the New York Times. We will never know how things might have developed differently had James Comey not taken his egomaniacal venture into election politics." So she goes straight from science into this article by The Times that, you know, Comey basically helped Hillary lose yeah, lose it go right now right now and anyone else is listening in life Go to the New York Times website NYT comm or new york or new york times calm and check it down what you see I'm rolling up To it right now by have the 20 people Trump turns to outside. The White House uber CEO plays with fire

04:29 Behind the scenes how Comey helped shake it. You got that animated gif on the screen of the the CEO, the uber CEO? Yeah Is that who is is looks like a 12 year old to me you know what It looks like it looks like the aha video take on me. Take on me But at this point in that drawing its piece of crap drawing to begin with. You know what its a Tourette's drawing Its microaggression against people with Tourette's Its so horrible looking and half the page yeah well they want it they hate this guy Yes, yeah. He's easy to hate it was that's not a Wow doesn't even look at the what you know it doesn't even look like the guy It just looks like some random drawing done by high school kid do you have anything on the science March?

CHAPTER 03 / 41 Discussion

Bill Nye, Giddy Children at the Science March

The hosts discuss media coverage of the Science March, focusing on footage of young girls reacting enthusiastically to Bill Nye. They describe the children's behavior as giddy and cult-like. Bill Nye is identified as a central figure for millennials and the "leader of the stupid" regarding scientific literacy.

bill nye· science march· cbs news· children· bow tie

05:14 Well, I have a bunch of stuff from CBS. There was one clip I had from the Science March that couldn't quite use it. It was emphasizing Bill Nye and the only thing that was really good about the clip besides they only took Bill Nye's one-liners was a group of little giggling girls four or five of them and they're all like 11 and 12 and they all had this weird looking unicorn thing on their head It's like a little, it's like a hat only it's a horn. Oh yeah and this is I told you this is coming watch watch And they were all jumping up and down giddy uh you know both hands are in fists you know slamming each other just slamming together real close to their body and jumping up and down and screaming over Bill Nye Uh let me tell you overheard in the workplace of someone I know very well

06:08 The following sentence, I'm so excited Bill Nye's show is starting again tonight. Yeah yeah it's like that Well i have a little bill nye thing later on but... Bill Nye has got the bow tie think he's a sweetie He must be the God's gift to... No, no. It is far worse I will show this to you after you play Do you have these giddy children? I want to hear the giddy children! No it was only a visual You could not really get it I saw and watched and tried to clip it And then I said there is nothing that can go with it But I do have a couple of clips if you need clips About Bill Nye The science march Whatever

CHAPTER 04 / 41 Discussion

CBS News, Climate Realist Joe Bast and the Heartland Institute

CBS News featured Joe Bast of the Heartland Institute as a "climate realist" in a segment the hosts claim was edited to make him look physically unappealing. Bast argues that the risks of man-made greenhouse gases are exaggerated and that warmer climates could benefit humanity. The hosts deconstruct the news segment's use of ominous B-roll footage of storms and rising tides to counter Bast's arguments.

cbs news· joe bast· heartland institute· climate change· global warming· donald trump

06:53 Alright, you wanna play yours or do you want me to play mine? I'll do mine. No no, do yours please! Do me. Okay, I got a couple of them First of all CBS wasted the whole day on climate change news showing... Did they go live?! No, they didn't go live but they just showed every... and they kept talking about all the rising tides. Every time they do that I just look out my window and I go... And all those mudflats now. So they're going on about the rising tides and showing houses that somehow collapse into the ocean and they show boats overturned and then every other shot as their talking... Fish in Miami? On the street fish? No, they didn't show the fish in Miami. I'm sorry they didn't do that but they had huge waves pounding the shore

07:36 And so they, so I figure they did this. They have somebody must've been in One of the executives or some of the editors said, somebody said we got to have at least one kind of one counter thing. Something is there anything we can do? Because this is ridiculous. The whole show is just gloom and doom climate change is going to kill us right so they had a they did this thing with a guy called. We need some happy moments bring on Bill Nye. No no I'm talking about a guy who's gonna be a climate denier. So they brought a climate denier on, who calls himself a climate realist. And he actually makes some good points but the problem is he comes from some creationists group in the Pacific Northwest and they're very good at dissecting him if you ever do news deconstruction they're doing it well here first thing make sure that you know that he doesn't know shit about science he's not a scientist

08:36 And then they blast him in all kinds of very subtle ways. It's a very negative piece with this guy trying to explain things in a fairly logical way, I don't think he is wrong but let's play the climate realist on CBS They call themselves Climate Realists They reject the idea that man-made greenhouse gas emissions threatens the climate and they think that the US should stop spending tax dollars on climate change programs Here's Dean Reynolds Scientists may worry about melting polar ice, rising seas or strengthening storms but to Joe Bast all of what others call warning signs of climate change are just the natural order things. Is it fair to call you climate change deniers? We are

09:23 climate realists. The efforts to stop global warming or slow it down are way disproportional to what the science suggests would be necessary." From this office park near Chicago, Bast runs the Heartland Institute a conservative think tank waging what he insists is a nonpartisan information war. So this guy, the guy that's in Chicago. Now you have to as they're talking to this guy for one thing they get a close up on him and I don't know what they've done to the camera but they've tweaked it so his... You can get that super high contrast he looks or every little pore is like double the size. And particularly in 4K or Ultra HD you look like your dead! This guy looks terrible so they've done that to him

10:14 And then constantly every time this guy says that the interviewer says anything they're showing oceans bashing the shores and ships overturning and huge storms and lightning bolts. Oh man, do we have any storm effects or something? No, believe me there are enough in here it's already annoying. Okay go back. He insists is a nonpartisan information war but if you look at the opinion polls I think the American public are on our side they say okay maybe climate is changing maybe there's human impact we probably can't do anything about it It's really expensive We think we've wasted too much money on this already

10:51 Besides, he says climate change isn't necessarily a bad thing. Cold weather kills more people than warm weather does so on net more people would benefit in warmer climates Most climate scientists the United Nations as well as NASA dismiss these arguments as propaganda for fossil fuels but Bast who is not a scientist can count on a very powerful ally now So Obama's talking about all of this with the global warming and a lot of it is a hoax. It's a hoax. Bass looks with approval on Mr Trumps decision to roll back regulations limiting greenhouse gases, and to his appointments of fellow skeptics in the administration

11:32 Climate change, he says is a naturally occurring cyclical phenomenon caused mostly by the Sun not an approaching disaster accelerated by carbon dioxide emissions caused by humans. There is still much to learn about... The Institute is now sending that message in books and videos to 300,000 public school teachers and college professors. And despite a tepid reaction to the mailings bad believes the tide has turned. Are you winning? We're winning big time ten years from now nobody's going to be talking about global warming it's going to be a bad memory and not a nightmare Dean Reynolds CBS CBS News Arlington Heights Illinois they need they needed to top it off with one of these

12:18 You know, so he says it's gonna be a bad marriage and not a nightmare. So big wave washing some little boat over oh my goodness Yeah CBS has been doing all their stories always got to slip in some negative thing about Trump Oh of course There's no reason for that Trump thing in there But okay will throw everything is tied into that these days everything there's a real this something real going on Which we'll get you later but I do have any more Yeah, I do have one. The one the one I thought was the most ominous and threatening and creepy there was again CBS and this is a I think this would you have to listen to this carefully because it's a really disgusting story it's again a climate thing This was the let me see if I can find it kids versus the government

CHAPTER 05 / 41 Discussion

Youth Climate Lawsuit, Avery McCray and Kelsey Juliana vs. US Government

A group of 21 students, including 11-year-old Avery McCray and lead plaintiff Kelsey Juliana, are suing the U.S. federal government over climate change. The lawsuit claims the government is violating their constitutional right to a healthy planet by supporting fossil fuels. The hosts interpret the media coverage of these children as a message that institutional powers "own the future" and the minds of the youth.

avery mccray· kelsey juliana· cbs news· climate change· lawsuit· fossil fuels

13:12 Oh boy. Kids, yeah listen to this... A group of students has been fighting this battle for nearly two years they're suing the federal government demanding it do more to fight climate change John Blackstone has their story Avery McCray has been passionate about the environment for half a lifetime. You've been worried about climate change? Since kindergarten Now at 11 she is really getting serious you signed on to sue the president yeah to sue the government of the United States yeah Trump is not doing anything to help stop climate change how old this kid eleven we're doomed

13:55 This meant the messaging in here, besides a little slam at Trump to have to put in every single story. Please! The messaging here I think is ominous and what it did to me was really saying is okay you guys can do whatever you want we own the children. We own the children. Think of the children! Oh yeah, you're right. We own the future is what that's saying John. Yeah we own the future, we own the children and their minds Do what you like Listen to them, we control them Ha ha children It's exactly what this subtext is He will do as we say

14:37 The whole story is just kids talking about how bad the government is and how, you know we need to fix climate change. None of them have even been out of school they've never had a job they've never done anything they're 11 12 13. The message is clear it's fantastic I can't... These guys are good! They're good. Trump is not doing anything to help stop climate change he's a climate change denier and we're gonna prove that to look to the world McCray is one of 21 students suing the government, claiming it is violating their constitutional right to a healthy planet by not doing enough to limit the use of fossil fuels. The case originally filed in Oregon in 2015 bears the name of lead plaintiff Kelsey Juliana.

15:25 The government has put its citizens and its younger generations into a position where we have to go to our court. The Justice Department tried to get it thrown out, but instead in November U.S District Court Judge Anne Aiken agreed to hear it My mom's like your case won and you're gonna move forward And I screamed so loud and I was getting ready to cry because no no I have to go back to class The trial could start later this year. 16-year old Ajay Piper says bring it on! You're taking on not just the federal government, you're taking on big oil companies, lobbyists... It's not actually that intimidating. You have the biggest oil and gas companies against you. It's like good let them be defeated in court. Although their lawsuit may seem like a long shot who better to fight for the future than

16:13 and those who will be here to see it. John Lecton, CBS News, Eugene Morgan. All your children belong to us. That's unbelievable well... I mean amidst all of this You would think that some of these people in dimension A would have read The Economist. It seems to be something... You mean Dimension B? B, I'm sorry. I'm straddling and get confused if you face to the north it's a if he faced the south is b you know it's confusing The Economist we know The Economist of course is completely anti-Trump hates everything about the Republicans with the new editor correct the new editor? Yep! New Editor so they had just a Trump hater

CHAPTER 06 / 41 Discussion

Reproducibility Crisis, The Economist and Scientific Study Failures

The Economist reports on the "reproducibility crisis" in modern science, noting that many seminal studies cannot be replicated. Researchers at Bayer Healthcare successfully reproduced only 25% of 67 major studies in drug discovery. The hosts argue that the lack of motivation for reproducible studies undermines the credibility of the scientific community.

the economist· plos one· bayer healthcare· reproducibility crisis· scientific journals

16:57 I just want to bring up this article, Trouble at the Lab. Do you know that these kids are going to prove it? I'd like to see it! The problem in science today is that there's no money and motivation to actually do real reproducible studies... ...to reproduce papers and experiments that are out there. And PLoS One which sounds like a rapper but its It's a journal. PLOS One, nine separate experiments had not managed to reproduce the results of a famous study from 1998 purporting to show that thinking about a professor before taking an intelligence test leads to a higher score which I remember that news story but the fundamental...I think there's uh there's a number of fundamental tests for cancer that are seen as kind of the seminal studies

17:56 Let's see. Florian Prince and his colleagues at Bayer Healthcare, German pharmaceutical reported in Nature Reviews Drug Discovery they had successfully reproduced the published results in only 25% of the 67 seminal studies you know and as you read the article it's all about the p-values and, you know setting up. And this is going on everywhere in science everywhere! Yeah we've brought this up before in the show yeah well I have to keep saying it and keep posting these articles This isn't...this is something you can send to your dimension A friend say hey look at god okay um a is for Adam I can remember now

CHAPTER 07 / 41 Discussion

Bill Nye's Constitution Interpretation, Article 1 Section 8 Analysis

Bill Nye delivered a speech in the rain at the Science March, citing Article 1, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution. The hosts accuse Nye of twisting the "Progress of Science and useful Arts" clause, which actually pertains to patent and copyright protections for inventors and authors. They argue Nye is using the Constitution to falsely suggest the government is mandated to fund his specific version of science.

bill nye· us constitution· article 1 section 8· patents· engineering

18:41 BOTS. There you go, A$RF and BS4Bots. I got a little way to remember it now. Great thank you yeah well if yeah i think you're absolutely right that we own the children hell yeah that was the message that's a good message well he does they do own the children and their leader as you but i'm not so sure about uh the 11 year olds but certainly i'll just group them into millennials bill nye is their leader he is der leader We need to listen to a little bit of his speech, which he did in the pouring rain. Always fun when they have like a global warming thing and it's raining and miserable. The event they had in Copenhagen where snowed in... We definitely need to listen this because he is a liar man then he is really twisting the constitution I think there are lot of things that are egregious

19:32 But when you twist the Constitution in front of your fan base, which is just hootin' it. They love the guy! I know why because they think he's cute and funny. They don't actually give a crap, I'm sure. He's a personality. Yeah well that's what we love in America but he is now in charge of the stupid and when When you lie to people and say this is what the Constitution says, to a bunch of people you know fully well know that will have in no way shape or form ever go to look up what you just said. It's egregious. We are marching today to remind people everywhere, our lawmakers especially of the significance of science for our health and prosperity The process of science has enabled humankind to discover the laws of nature This understanding has in turn enabled us to feed and care for the world's billions build great cities establish effective governments create global transportation systems explore outer space

20:32 And know the cosmos. Know the cosmos, woo! For some reason that gets a big cheer I'm not quite sure why Yeah why does that get a big cheer? Probably because a lot of these kids think that it's Earth you know we can't save the earth We'll all be living on Mars soon so who knows what these kids think The framers of the Constitution of the United States, which has become a model for constitutional governments everywhere included Article 1 Section 8. Which refers to promoting the progress of science and useful arts. Hold on Bill Nye! I love how he only gave us half of that sentence Yes, to promote the progress of science and useful art but that's not

21:35 All that it says. ...of science and useful arts... See, he just stops there I'll read it to you Yes, read please To promote the progress of science and useful arts by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries So in order to promote progress of science and useful arts they put in a clause that allowed you to own your invention for a... It's the patent clause. Yeah, but no Bill Nye is saying according if you don't do this if you don't promote progress of science and useful arts then you are violating the Constitution it's very interesting because he he's not misquoting it but he's twisting in a very

22:30 I think it's a very slick way. It was, it's very slick Well I caught immediately Let's listen to his whole bit here and then I just had to... The institution is not about promoting things According to Bill Nye it is Which refers to promoting the progress of science and useful arts It does refer correct Yay! Its intent is to motivate innovators and drive the economy. That, I think that's true...that- that is true but he's framing it differently By means of just laws Uh huh They knew that without the progress of science and useful arts of engineering

23:14 He has to slip in engineering. Hey, I'm an engineer so better put some engineering in there because they only said useful arts and science They knew that without the progress of science and useful arts of engineering he's a useful Arts of Engineering if that's not in the Constitution Bill Nye Like with the useful arts of podcasting. I mean you can do anything You want in that case? Do without the progress of science and useful arts of engineering our economy would falter Without scientifically literate citizens, the United States—any country in fact—cannot compete on the world stage. Yet today we have a great many lawmakers not just here

23:54 but around the world deliberately ignoring and actively suppressing science. Some may consider science the purview of a special or separate type of citizen, one who pursues natural facts and generates numerical models for their own sakes." Did you hear? He's got them captivated John they're like oh Bill yes we We shall follow you. Oh, he's getting excited now. He's getting excited John. He's like I got him! I got these kids show the world! Show the world! Show the world! That science is for all Science must shape policy Science is universal Science brings out the best in us With an informed optimistic view of the future We can dare I say it Save The World! And you will all enter to them

25:17 There he is Bill Nye the Führer. Not bad. You slow him down, he does have a devilish voice Yeah but I love the ISO Save The World! Yeah that's good That was kind of freaky Freaky man Freaky man I don't know what to do with that guy now He's freaking me out Bill Nye. Anyway, I found the whole thing to be... It screwed up the news site because the action is in France right now today as we speak. Yeah, yeah! We're gonna get results today, I believe. We're supposed to get results today? What time is it? It's 8 hours ahead so... It's about 6 o'clock or quarter to six

CHAPTER 08 / 41 Discussion

San Francisco Power Outage, Internet of Things and Electronic Locks

A localized power outage in San Francisco's financial district caused issues for residents using "Internet of Things" technology. Dog walkers were unable to enter homes because electronic door codes failed during the blackout. The hosts discuss the dangers of over-reliance on cloud-based services like Slack and Amazon S3 for basic communication and security.

san francisco· power outage· internet of things· electronic doors· slack· amazon s3

26:08 Our time and or their time so they should be getting us some simple results or something. We're hearing nothing I think that's quarter to seven Thank You what could be no, I don't know hey did you have any? Was there any effect of the power outages in LA San Francisco New York? that on Friday? No, nothing. In fact kids were over there and JC works at a software company and he was in the south of market nothing there Jay was running the dog walking company

26:46 And there was more training. Which means she was walking dogs? No, she's actually a manager now so she only walks dogs when somebody doesn't show up. Oh okay! Okay. Which is great because now she says she gets to meet more dogs it's like this... If you're dog walker you have to like dogs So uh.. She has all these opinions about the various dogs and their owners So, here's the funny thing. Now this outage really took out the financial district and the rich part of San Francisco. The other part of San Francisco which is below market and just where all up-and-coming startups are, that was unaffected. In fact I had gone to the city

27:27 And went in to pick up some wine I had waiting for me at the K&L wine shop. And I went right during the blackout, I went in and I took the normal route and traffic signals were working. I went and grabbed a wine came back home. I didn't even know anything was going on. They must have localized this EMP really good now? Yeah, whatever it was you look at the news reporting though. They had these big blotches of red You know like a circle which yes, I went from San Francisco to Bakersfield She's like yo this is where it happened So the funny story from J. Is that and the irony of the internet of crap? shite is that The dog walkers

28:13 A lot of them, especially in Pacific Heights and the ritzy areas of town that were all shut off. They all have electronic doors for the dog walkers. And they wouldn't open it, of course. Yeah. Let's you know code the door opens to get the dog and off they go well guess what happens when the Internet of crap goes down? Goodbye so the dogs are stuck in their house So we all expected that, but they end up crapping in the house. You can't get them out of there because the dog walkers never given keys are just given these codes so that was amusing you know none of this will end well of course I'm citing Professor Ted but I think more and more it's like if companies like

28:55 Slightly people use slack within their organization, and then I think Facebook is coming out with with some competing products Do we talk about slack in the organization before on the show? I don't even talked about the dinner table What I was going to say is how if something goes down And it could be anything. It could be probably Amazon I'm sure they use s3 or EC does some version that you use that the internet what you can't even communicate within your own company where the person next door and the office next door Who thinks this is a good idea? Especially if the Internet of Things has locked the doors. Yeah, well you can't even go talk to the person! You're locked in now none of this is gonna end well... None of this I asked the question for years and I agree 100% who thinks this is a good idea it's crazy crazy but we got into discussion about slack and some these other messaging systems and how they're bad ideas

CHAPTER 09 / 41 Discussion

Paris Police Shooting, Media Coverage and Donald Trump's Reaction

The hosts critique the media's reaction to a shooting in Paris, noting that news outlets focused heavily on Donald Trump's early characterization of the event as a terrorist attack. They argue that the media prioritizes finding ways to prove Trump wrong over reporting the facts of the incident. The segment highlights the repetitive nature of cable news panels.

paris· terrorist attack· donald trump· fox news· rachel maddow· media bias

29:56 Because you know, you don't have any record of anybody telling you to do something. I mean it's just like the old... It's like the bad movie premise where the guy has to go on deep underground and only the boss of the organization knows he is doing it And then all hell breaks loose and that guy gets caught for something and then the boss gets killed and nobody else knows Yeah what movie is this? Is this a Woody Allen movie? Every other crappy movie I've seen! I don't watch those It's bad, it's bad. So of course it was a show day Thursday and that's when the Paris shooting took place Now this has been deep- That was a lame shooting! That's another thing that chewed up the news cycle That shooting I've never seen so much coverage Well it was the way they covered it And I know why Because everything is hate Trump Everything is hate Trump Everything This is now categorized as a terrorist attack

30:56 Yes, because they found supposedly a note on the guy. President Trump said right off the bat to a question looks like another terrorist attack in France we have not been comfortable to call it that or report that but yeah I mean he's the president and wouldn't have any information you know just sure he saw it on the shows right? More reporting upcoming... I'm with you look only thing is what's going on in Paris always a dangerous time to be you know the coverage is getting ahead of the facts and I think You know, the president was referring to. I think what he said was watching on television And you do wonder, are people going to take what he said as some idea that it's...that he knows something more than what anybody else does. But if you recall even in his answer, oh I just saw that as I was walking out type of things. Jeremy, no type of thing. Knowing what we know about Paris witnessing what we just witnessed in the East Room your thoughts?

31:53 Well, the president was very quick to declare it probably a terrorist attack. I think it's too soon to know whether indeed that is the case if it turns out it was not terrorism. I think the White House is going to have some explaining to do about why they characterize something terrorism when it wasn't. Yeah like okay can wait for that but let's wait for the facts to come in to determine whether or not the president's assessment was correct Oddly, neither leader included it in their opening remarks or statements. It was the result of a question from John Roberts of Fox News nor can we match the president's characterization that it looks like terrorism We just don't know enough yet How long are they gonna talk? Hold on a second Do they just linger on this topic? It's dumb For hours for hours So what that he said that Well but he has to be wrong

32:45 We like him to be wrong, then we have another thing to talk about. You have another half hour to go. We can get a panel together! We can get a panel. The guy doing the stretching that stretch movement you do on the floor manager does? You know and this stretch stretch stretch what it looks like or what do you think I think is just I think what you think oh i think what you think that I think you know I mean just unbelievable exactly It's exactly it. It's not... Rachel Maddow, you might have seen this clip. Another thing that is not really... I might- hold on a second! That's a microaggression and an insult! It was actually setting you up to like just pretend you hadn't heard it and be really amused by it to get me borderline Clip of the Day

CHAPTER 10 / 41 Discussion

Venezuela Unrest, Gun Control and Rachel Maddow's Analysis

Venezuela is experiencing violent anti-government protests against the Maduro regime. The hosts discuss how the government's prior gun control measures have left the opposition unarmed and unable to effectively resist. They mock Rachel Maddow for suggesting that Venezuelan protesters are enraged by a White House FEC filing involving Steve Bannon rather than domestic economic collapse.

venezuela· nicolas maduro· gun control· rachel maddow· fec filing· steve bannon

33:35 That was a total microaggression. You're right, I apologize. I didn't mean to invade your space. Yes Your apologies accepted No that's not how it works then you gotta come around and you gotta say something again Just realize you have privileges an old white man you do something like that otherwise you're not I'm not as good as I should be I live in the Berkeley area for God's sake It's a dimension B Yeah, Berkeley. Yeah B for Berkeley there you go so Venezuela is a mess right now it's a mess I have a clip he has a clip

34:14 Venezuela and gun control? Yeah, because that's just a piece of the story. But it says to me that because you know as soon as people say this these right-wingers are always saying this and I'm thinking yeah you know it's a little extreme but I think they're right! The first thing a left wing government does is they take your guns away and then you can't...you can't..your fucked You can't get out of the situation that they put you in later when you need to overturn the government which is the case of Maduro Do you think we're turning into a 100% hate show? Yes, somebody put that in the war room. This is a 100% hate... The Hate Show starring John and Adam. And now it's time for The Hate Show! Firmly planted in Dimension B is John C. Dvorak In Dimension A its Adam Curry And now let's enjoy the HATE SHOW

35:09 It's an unrest, violence deaths. Is Venezuela edging towards civil war here? Well, for a civil war to break out both the government and the opposition have to be armed. And Venezuela's opposition is unarmed. The violence that breaks out is more often than not dispersed or controlled by the government's armed forces and protesters usually fight back by throwing rocks or Molotov cocktail bombs. That's why back in 2014—and what we're seeing again this year—protesters build barricades to prevent armed forces from accessing communities. OK.

35:47 Now, there's something that brings something to mind which is the United States for historically especially the meddlers in the CIA and other agencies used to overturn South American governments constantly. They would go in there and they would flip a government and put it- That's what we did! Yes, but this is interesting. The part that's interesting is that Is it possible That we made the generalization because we could also get away with in some other parts of the world But we made to generate a generalization somewhere in our deep psyche of the intelligence community In particular that It would be the same thing in the Middle East when in fact the middle Easterners are armed to the teeth Yeah! but the South Americans no

36:36 No, no. They're not armed to the teeth and you end up with situations like this where you get this Maduro character who can't get him out of office but did we get used to the fact that we could just waltz in and change a government when we tried to do it in Iraq? Oh they're gonna throw roses at us! No they threw their guns at us It was just like...it's not going to happen Well, Rachel Maddow knows who's responsible for the unrest. Everybody knows it's obvious another three people got killed in anti-government protests just yesterday there have been weeks and weeks and weeks of rioting and violent protests And now today Venezuelans are enraged anew by this brand new FEC filing from the White House which shows that interesting thing about the guy who got the meeting with the NSC officials and with Steve Bannon

37:26 Yeah, that's why they're protesting. What? Is she nuts?! Uh... let me think. Yes...? Yeah. Explain to me what we just heard! Okay, so a video of rioting... By the way it's not I would almost whether you said anything or not it's not quite borderline clip-of-the-day because is it just lacks a certain something sorry. I agree now that's okay I agree that's why I was trying to set up because I was trying to pull it up yeah you never did that does not work for either one of us I've tried with you and you've tried with me No you can set it up but it only makes it worse I agree it only makes it worse

38:03 So there was some FEC filing that showed that somewhere through Banyan, somebody had gotten some payoff in Venezuela. Wow! I'm stunned! Yeah really? There's payoffs going on there?! No! Shocked shocked shocked I tell you yeah so she said oh this is why they're rioting and she got excoriated for that that was pretty funny Did she? Oh yeah, oh yeah. By dimension A and B. Oh yeah totally And rightly so! It's crazy That is dumb

CHAPTER 11 / 41 Discussion

Bill O'Reilly's Departure, Chinese Zodiac and Generational Generalizations

Following his exit from Fox News, Bill O'Reilly is reportedly transitioning to podcasting. The hosts discuss feedback from a female producer on No Agenda Social who was offended by a previous segment regarding the Chinese Zodiac. This leads to a broader generalization about women born between 1966 and 1970, citing Sarah Silverman as an example of the demographic's traits.

bill o'reilly· podcasting· chinese zodiac· sarah silverman· no agenda social

38:43 We were, um... I think everybody's freaked out. I think a lot of it has to do with the O'Reilly situation and the fact that this situation is continuing By the way, O'Reilly? You know what he's doing next? Yeah! It's horrible. I hate to hear it He's gone from top to bottom ladies and gentlemen Do you have a clip? No, I don't yet. It just showed up in my news feed this morning He's gonna become a podcaster Now the funny thing is he's always been a podcaster I laughed. By the way, I sense that he knew about this long ago because he always had at the end of his show and go to Bill O'Reilly dot com not associated with Fox News Bill O'Reilly you'd always have a separate yes separate that's right and he made a point out of it yeah and i did a lot of research actually on

39:34 I kind of fell into it, this whole Bill O'Reilly thing. There's a lot of interesting actors in here that I had not expected to bump into But I think maybe we need to start with some feedback I received from... This was actually on noagendasocial.com From one of our producers who is- who was very angry at you Even threw F words at you That how dare YOU psychoanalyze HER Based on the Chinese Zodiac Yes, you sent me this this thread which apparently you can really pluck Yeah nicely I saw that even Twitter doesn't have threads that nicely. This is a nice threading system I like it look at you It's a separate static web page

40:25 You just throw it anywhere you want. No, that's great I like that It's permanent record too Yes this woman was bent out of shape By the way i've expanded my thesis Which we may or may not talk about in this show Yeah yeah I think we will I've expanded my thesis about these women and i now extend it to a group of women from born from 66 where the leaders were emerged. And then in 67, 68 and 69 and 70 where it ends...I think it ends with seven in 1970 with Sarah Silverman. Oh yes! Wow that's harsh

41:04 Now you're generalizing obviously, because of course not all women from these age ranges. No no there's plenty of women that aren't but I doubt that there is a woman within that group who does not have at least one minor characteristic of the generalization. A friend of mine for example was moaning about being 50 and she's going to get married to someone if she listens to this show then she'll know what i'm talking about And she was adamant about not changing her last name. She's 50, like okay fine. I will say it's a hassle. Changing your name is a hassle. Everything is a hassle. It's only a tradition that you do it A lot of people just do the hyphenated thing and there wasn't much to make. She did have a good point though she said that guy should change his name to her name and her names actually a better name so maybe she's right Yeah well theres points there

CHAPTER 12 / 41 Discussion

Wendy Walsh Allegations, Lisa Bloom and Fox News Workplace Culture

Radio personality Wendy Walsh detailed an encounter with Bill O'Reilly where he allegedly rescinded a job offer after she declined an invitation to his hotel suite. Attorney Lisa Bloom, daughter of Gloria Allred, is representing Walsh and other accusers. The hosts analyze Walsh's interview on E! News, questioning the timing of the allegations and the professional fallout that occurred years prior.

wendy walsh· bill o'reilly· lisa bloom· fox news· sexual harassment· e! news

42:04 Very common in France, by the way. Very common in France. If you marry a rich aristocrat you change your name to their name? Yeah well if the rich aristocrat wants to marry me I'll change my name. Okay that's not gonna happen You may continue Yes so there was a lot of play of the black woman who was on The View and I'm not going to play any of her clips But you know this is the one who said he was a He would clear his throat and then he at one point said looking good today hot chocolate, okay? so You know it Okay, is it bad yeah? Yeah douchebag. Okay got it right but

42:55 So this goes very deep. I'm watching the view... It's like the guys who sneeze and say bullshit when they're sneezing, you know? You talk and you go, ah! That's bullshit!" Alright well wait for it, wait for it. Um so I'm watching The View and the story with this woman is that she did not get any payoff she did not Sue, she's not looking to sue. The statute of limitations have passed but she has a lawyer who refers to her as her client and how wonderful it is that they have this record of her tweets from 2010 where she was saying Bill O'Reilly you know, trust me Bill O'Reilly is a piece of crap and he loves black women enough said stuff like that. Who is this Lisa Bloom? Why is she representing someone who's not going to take any action

43:45 Well, Lisa Bloom of course is Gloria Allred's only daughter. Yes! I didn't even realize this so and yeah so she is part of that system and there's another woman who...and Lisa Bloom you know she's a lawyer and she has her own practice the Bloom Company or whatever but she I think she makes most of her money from appearing on TV shows and being a, what do you call it? A contributor. A contributing person which she did for many years on the Bill O'Reilly show is Martha Walsh... Wendy Walsh I'm sorry. Wendy Walsh So Wendy Walsh is yeah she's a radio personality and she goes on television and she is also one of these women who was speaking out speaking out right now but whatever you think she's not suing this is just about doing what's right

44:39 Let's hear about her offense because when you read certainly Lisa Bloom's Twitter feed, how brave this Wendy Walsh is a brave woman. The abuse she had to stand up to You know, she is a guiding light for all women. vindictive against Mr. O'Reilly or Fox News, it's just telling a simple truth—a simple authentic story of something that happened to me so that we as a nation can start to have some discourse about how to make workplaces safer for our daughters, so that we can teach young women and young men how to report sexual harassment, to not be afraid to go to human resources, to have these things be taken seriously because I didn't even know that i could report as a job applicant

45:40 Okay, this is very interesting. So she didn't know that she could report as a job applicant so I- Report what? Well i started... What happened to her the huge horrible abuse that happened to her that took place and I looked everywhere for the story said well what happened to her? I had to go to E! News to get the story. E! News of all places. The dinner was set up by his executive assistant. Oops okay so what had this happened In I believe New York in a hotel Where they had dinner O'Reilly and Walsh, and she had contributed sporadically to his program of the factor on no spin zone on the Fox No spit zone

46:26 And she thought, okay this is great because he was his assistant called up and said hey I want to meet him. Oh maybe we can get offered a job so here she is on E! News telling us what happened The dinner was set up by his executive assistant which tells me when you get an email from Fox News that it's a business dinner then I assumed it was. I've been used on the show a few times and they created a segment around me So I thought this is a great opportunity for me to bring up becoming a paid contributor I didn't have to because within five minutes of the dinner he told me that Roger Ailes is his best friend. Roger Ailes at the time was chairman of The Network and that they'd like to offer me a contributor position When we left the restaurant, he simply said let's get out of here And I assumed he meant the bar so as we left the restaurant I turned left towards the bar He turned right towards the bedrooms and I said uh...I think the bars this way? And he said no come back to my suite I said i'm sorry Bill I can't do that

47:21 His response was, what? You think I'm gonna attack you or something and you know, you want to be cordial. This is the big boss here! I am a potential employee applying for job so i just said no we're both raising teenage girls maybe we should try to model good choices for our kids which is very appropriate response once we got to the bar that's a good response very appropriate response yeah We should try to model good choices for our kids Once we got to the bar Stopping So After she said that he punched her out. Oh, have you already heard the clip? Maybe I should try to model good choices for our kids once we got to the bar his demeanor changed entirely He went from charming to hostile We got to the bar I knew what was happening So I just ordered a soda water and he said how much is our water gonna cost me And I said oh, I'll be happy to pay for this round when I pulled out my bag

48:11 He said, oh that's the ugliest bag I've ever seen. He was just in a grumpy, grumpy mood So I pretty much left 15 minutes later got in an uber and I was gone But he did say the words you can forget all the career advice I gave you You're on your own Why do you think he's chosen the behaviors? He's chosen I have never Psychologically examined mr.. O'Reilly whoa Nice way to get out of the Goldwater rule Very nice. I have never psychologically examined Mr.. O'Reilly within our entertainment industry Narcissism is not only accepted it's often a requirement It only happens with men though apparently and we must remember women never had ever had that their underbelly of narcissistic personality disorder is a deep self-loathing, okay?

48:58 So what happened? Stop stop. It stopped it the clip is over its stuff No, I've got to stop you for saying anything because you've gotta give me some with some some time Some some time context in other words when did this happen on all I surrender the floor to The remainder of my time to the gentleman from Berkeley when did this happened this happened about Four or five years ago. I think and she took an uber in New York sure four or five years ago Oh, you're right. So it can't be that long... Well okay the reason why I said four or five years ago was honestly a guess on my part because she so let me just review okay? Review had dinner he said oh look great you're gonna be a contributor congratulations He makes a pass She rejects totally in a very nice way and then he's grumpy and he says his hand her handbag is ugly And he's just grumpy Yeah sure

50:00 You know these things do and by the way, and then she continued to work for O'Reilly for three years after that. She was in Los Angeles yes Continue to wait a minute is not the way this story sounds to me that well That's exactly what happened she didn't the deal went through she got her gig She contributed so what she bitching about? Well, he made it sound as though down I'm not gonna give you any more advice Don't count on any good and then he gets hired there, so what's missing from this picture Yeah, anything that really... No logic here. It's just an old douchebag who made a pass got rejected became grumpy and now I think the narcissism what you say is what you are the narcissism is on her part she wants to be out there again I'll by defend the harassment that women are subjected to

50:47 from their perspective because it happens all the time. It's life, you know? And then it's not great and a lot of it is way out of proportion. Also I think some women would miss flirting in the workplace but okay. Which reminds me of that Deborah woman who went after me for generalizing about the 50 year old woman of a certain ilk. She actually in her thread there, I just sort of like a sore thumb, I don't even know why she put it in there but she says, I kind of miss flirting in the workplace. I know! It's like that was really odd. But I have a theory about this. I'm all ears on your theory. You got to bookmark that for a moment because I'm going to come into that theory because these women and I don't want...that sounds nasty but These women

CHAPTER 13 / 41 Discussion

Media Strategy, Color of Change and the O'Reilly Ouster

Lisa Bloom describes a "flawless" 18-day media and legal strategy designed to keep the O'Reilly allegations in the news and pressure advertisers. Organizations like Color of Change and Media Matters are taking credit for the advertising boycott that led to O'Reilly's firing. Protesters at News Corp headquarters used "hot chocolate" packets to mock O'Reilly's alleged comments toward black female employees.

lisa bloom· msnbc· color of change· media matters· advertising boycott· bill o'reilly

51:37 And man, because... Nothing can change the show from The Hate Show to The Hate Women Show. Typically you know if they're lucky millennial girls have a mom and dad but they certainly have passed on a lot of these thinking that particular phrase like I miss flirting in the workplace i think it's something else I think what is missed his controversy in the workplace and we'll get to that Just stepping back for a second, Lisa Bloom is being heralded as the woman who brought the women to bring down O'Reilly. Here's Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC. Wendy Walsh was guided in telling her story first to The New York Times and then on this program... Oh, she said it's a guider for that story? Boy! That's a bar story. Hey you know what happened to me?!

52:34 This is like, oh you have to guide me to tell this story. I'm sorry i mean i'm just not buying this. And others by Lisa Bloom. Lisa Bloom was the last lawyer standing against Bill O'Reilly when he got kicked out the door at Fox News today that boot kicking Bill O'Reilly out the door was on Lisa- Get a time code What? Get a timecode. For what? I'll tell you later, just get it. Okay got it. At Fox News today that boot kicking Bill O'Reilly out the door was on Lisa Bloom's foot. When the New York Times story broke, advertisers started leaving O'Reilly show. Protesters then instantly activated on social media and elsewhere and convinced dozens and dozens more advertisers to leave Bill O'Reilly show and advertisers left every day. The voices of those protesters were heard by the advertisers

53:34 Advertisers. That voice of protest won! They rose up against Bill O'Reilly and they won. They won! They beat him down I like all the different people that want to take credit for this downing, the downing of Bill O'Reilly Oh it gets so much better Like Media Matters takes credit for it now This Woman takes credit for it and then you know MSNBC will be taking credit for it Ah but... This guy was a real, real love Wait until you find out who's really responsible Wait, okay. So then I go looking for Lisa Bloom what is up with this with this lawyer? Who is you know she's a narcissist she's on television people on television are narcissists. I'm a narcissist I readily admit that not a problem. This how it works

54:21 And she goes on Democracy Now! and the things that were coming out of her mouth, like, whoa I gotta see what's going on here. Who is behind this? Wendy Walsh came to me several months ago and told me that The New York Times wanted to publish her story and all of her friends were saying to her don't do it it. Three weeks ago, the story broke with Wendy. We had a media and legal strategy in place. We executed it for the last 18 days and yesterday he announced or that company announced that he had been fired I think the plan went flawlessly What was the plan? The plan went flawless... She's talking like there was some strategic thing So i'm confused now is she representing these women as lawyers she refers to them as her client but she's not suing there's no suit being brought

55:22 Yes, she had a plan and I presume that she needs to be paid. Maybe it's all coming in maybe she gets paid for these appearances doubtful Maybe maybe she's writing a book but there's a plan there's a plan and of course we've got What's her face from Democracy Now? Whoa, tell us about the plan. We executed it for the last 18 days and yesterday he announced or the company announced that he had been fired I think the plan went flawlessly what was the plan The plan was first of all we have to keep this story in the news we can't just let it be a one-day story and that's what it would have been so Wendy and I did a press conference again she was very scared we shored her up

55:59 She was scared of telling that story. Are you kidding me? We had to do a press conference and make the story be big so that other accusers would call me as an attorney I can't call them, and I didn't know who they were anyway right but we had to keep this story going So we released bits of it day by day giving the story legs As we say in journalism A second accuser did call me Is that how you say in journalism giving the story legs is that just checking because she's now journalist I don't know if she's a lawyer or...as we say in journalism Is she a journalist Not that I know of. Is that what you say in journalism? You can say a story has legs, but you don't...I've never heard anyone say they want to give legs to a story. So this is a term. ...accusers would call me as an attorney i can't call them and i didn't know who they were anyway right but we had to keep the story going so we released bits of it day

56:49 by day, giving the story legs, as we say in journalism. A second accuser did call me— Please sit down. —but I needed time to vet her story. I needed to talk to her witnesses. I needed to look at her evidence. I needed to shore her up emotionally. All of these women are very scared. We got her sister in place. We got her three witnesses interviewed and I was ready to come forward with her. She got scared. I went to North Carolina. I met with her. We shored her up and came out with her story a couple days ago. A third accuser—a fourth accuser came out I tweeted and said on many shows that the Murdochs had only one choice, and that was to fire Bill O'Reilly. And if they didn't we would continue relentlessly day after day having more and more accusers come out publicly We were not going to let this go. We were going to persist. Well, Fox News Okay So how did they put this together? Part of the plan was to get it in the news keep in the news This is a marketing strategy It's a very classic one

57:43 And then as a part of that, they had the social media just lit up all of a sudden magically. Bah! Social media lit up and people just went to the streets. They went to Trump Tower just because scrub this is an outrage. An outrage he got denied and he was grumpy it's an outrage I tell you. She alleges O'Reilly would make grunting noises like an animal. This is the other one obviously wait listen to this...and call her hot chocolate Outside of News Corp's New York headquarters Wednesday, protesters handed out flyers reading, "'Dangerous sexual predator works here in packets of hot chocolate.'" Color Of Change senior campaign manager Anika Kalyanavaroli responded to the news of O'Reilly's ouster.

58:26 At this point, we are so happy that he is gone and he's no longer going to be able to spit all of his vile comments and everything that comes out of his mouth. It's disparaging not only to women but specifically to black women into black folks all over the world So we're very happy to say that he'll be off the air But we're not done We're gonna keep applying pressure And making sure That what's coming out of these airways and then what's happening in these hallways Is respectful and making sure that women everywhere Are given dignity Everywhere, everywhere. Okay so that is Anika Collier Navarroli the senior campaign manager media and economic justice of Color Of Change a 501c4 company non-profit which means they lobby oh god I hate to say it who's funding him

CHAPTER 14 / 41 Discussion

Dustin Moskovitz, Asana and Funding for Political Activism

Facebook co-founder Dustin Moskovitz and his company Asana are identified as major funders of Color of Change, donating $1.5 million. Moskovitz committed $20 million to Democratic causes in 2016 to defeat Donald Trump. The hosts link this Silicon Valley funding to the coordinated effort to remove conservative voices from cable news.

dustin moskovitz· asana· facebook· george soros· color of change· hillary clinton

59:16 No. Yes, big time a million bucks George Soros but not the biggest funder Not the biggest no the biggest is a company called Asana So I had to drill down because they have no we talked about them before III couldn't recall it okay well go on I Remembered the name okay So I couldn't get this from GuideStar because they haven't filed it. They've only been around for a year, but I could find it through the OpenSecrets.org website and there you see the Soros Foundation the Soros Fund Management LLC with four hundred thousand there couple hundred thousand there totaling up to a million through There's another organization like Save Our Souls or something

1:00:07 Us for Change, also a complete 100% Soros organization. But Asana is at the top so who the heck is Asana? I drilled down... Asana are two former Facebag founders. Dustin Moskowitz Co-founded Facebook with Zuckerberg and along with him he has a partner now, and they formed Asana. And Asana is... I think it's just some kind of group wear or something could be so he gave 1.5 million dollars to this color change outfit

1:00:48 So I'm like, well then I gotta go look at this guy. This guy in 2016 gave $20 million to the Democrats to defeat Donald Trump because this could not happen he was you know a lot of the Hillary things and the private... He is a Hillary Guy all the way quick little clip from CNBC. I have a whole Medium post that really explains our full thinking but um yeah i think it's apparent to every American that uh this is very special election stakes are extremely high And, you know as we were watching sort of things play out the Republican Party chose their nominee on a type of rhetoric they're using particularly at the RNC. We just felt really compelled to sort of get off the sidelines and help ensure that, you know, if the Democrats were able to win election Yeah so that didn't happen That's him? That's him Wow he sounds like that kid the 16 year old that's suing the government is part of the anti-climate change group

1:01:44 So I looked at his Medium post from September 8th, 2016 titled Compelled to Act. We're committing $20 million dollars to help Democrats in the 2016 election. Carrie and I have dedicated our lives to figuring out how to do the most good we can with the resources we've been given." Now this is a typical Silicon Valley dick! This cycle is different. The polarization in America today has yielded a race that is about much more than policies and ideas, it has become a referendum on who we want to be as individuals as a nation and society Will we be driven by fear towards tribalism emphasizing the things that divide us? Will we focus on how to advantage those most similar while building barriers to separate us from the rest of the world

1:02:23 Or alternatively, will we continue in the direction of increased tolerance diversity and interdependence in the name of mutual prosperity? What's this guys name again? Moskovitz. Dustin Moskovitz. On the other hand a huge part of Donald Trump popularity is that he serves as voice... His proposals are so implausible that the nation is forced to worry about his interest in the presidency might not even extend beyond winning contest promoting his personal brand So specifically, oh here it is. Specifically we're committing $20 million to a number of organizations they include the Hillary Victory Fund The League of Conservative Voters For Our Future PAC and if you are for our future pack turned around and gave that money right to Color Of Change who are also on the list color of change pack as I said And moveon.org so it is my belief that

1:03:16 this group of people, certainly in Silicon Valley who by the way excoriate Peter Thiel for meddling in affairs with his money. Yeah this guy's by the way is worth 10 billion. He even says I'm sorry that we were using money to influence the election but it's just necessary so he was actually admitting that his moneys there to try and influence the election which is what it is They're so mad, I think that personally Hillary's behind it all. Everybody who fucked her over- timecode sorry is... It's your turn now. Comey is getting it right now today in the New York Times that he made her lose Bill O'Reilly is getting it you know who's gonna get it next?

CHAPTER 15 / 41 Discussion

Sean Hannity as the Next Target, Media Matters Strategy

The hosts predict that Sean Hannity will be the next target of coordinated advertiser boycotts led by Media Matters. They discuss the "workaholic" nature of Hannity's schedule compared to O'Reilly. The segment transitions into a discussion on the psychology of social justice warriors and the role of Patreon in funding online activism.

sean hannity· media matters· bill o'reilly· tucker carlson· social justice warriors

1:04:01 Let's go to the morning Joe's so do they remake over? The entire network is anybody else and the the family's crosshairs right now I think you have to look at somebody like Sean Hannity and Question whether or not his Almost propaganda-like Yeah. Attitude and programming every night is going to be acceptable in the minds of the family. Yeah, he didn't harass anyone sexually that we know of there's no accusation I don't think he's a type

1:04:39 I think he hasn't got time. If you look at his schedule, this guy's a workaholic! He's got three...I've said this before, not a big fan of Sean Hannity so far as he's a tub-thumper to an extreme and I don't care for that much but he works three hours a day on our radio show which is one the top five talk radio shows which makes him millions. Three hours a day then he does an hour TV a day which is very fatiguing This guy, I don't know how he does it. Well he's certainly not being accused of any wrongdoing within his organization but that doesn't matter Now we're just saying who are going to go after next? No Hannity is a target and what's very interesting is that Media Matters, a Clinton funded outfit

1:05:25 Admit it, it's not a big secret. It's not like some conspiracy theory. It is an actual conspiracy They're out there taking credit now for bringing down Bill O'Reilly and that's getting them Now there's infighting because now the color of change people are like hey wait a minute Yeah, this guy you're pushing down the black man who did all the work we stood out there You didn't do anything And they're all drinking from the same money tap so it was very interesting to see how how that will develop Now I want to take this into millennial social justice warriors because clearly these women are being abused to bring these, you know... The Wendy Walsh thing. I just can't resolve a sexual harassment. It's not a nice situation that happens all the time. No, it makes her pass at someone so you can't even make a pass at a woman today under any circumstances now she prefaced the thing going back to that

1:06:23 the original clip you played, she prefaces by saying well because his assistant made the call I knew it was had to be a business meeting. And so that's what the whole thing is based on at a business meeting which in California this is true At a business meeting, you can't make him. You can't make it past it so I don't know how you're going to do it under any of the circumstances but yeah but you can't...I think that's the premise for the whole thing It was a business meeting that he did this So he was at.. He was essentially at work Right And then That's why she said she didn't know that she could file as a job applicant Yes Exactly Yeah So maybe what her point is

1:07:08 Although she said, right there she said hey I wasn't gonna do anything. I wanted the job but you know i'm gonna go easy it's the big boss so would she have filed as an applicant instead of taking the three-year gig? Doesn't sound like it but it's okay look...I can't..i'm not in her shoes. I can't feel what she feels. I don't have her upbringing. I don't know what kind of triggering mechanism she has inside of her It's all totally possible. How much did the other Bloom woman that kept haranguing her Sound like she was bullied into doing this Uh maybe Look, this is the way Bloom tells the story. Yeah! So I've been doing a lot of work and thinking and research on... And I think this may turn out to be bigger than pipelines quite honestly

1:07:52 on this butt hurtness, the social justice warrior and the lying to just the lying. And people were sending me books like all millennials lie I mean just amazing. We got into lots of discussion about that we can talk about it but continue please well do you want to take a break and come back to it because this will take us another 15 minutes? Well yeah I can deal with that Let's use something, well I got one clip we can play just to give us something to think about and I think it takes us right into the break. This is a clip about Fox lawsuits this includes the discussion of Tanterra who was one of people that is responsible for the ouster of O'Reilly and Tanterra who was on his show all the time, I remember her and we've discussed her on this show. I never liked her! I always thought she was unbelievably

CHAPTER 17 / 41 Discussion

No Agenda Donation Segment, Sir Macaroni au Fromage Knighting

The hosts transition to the Value-for-Value segment, thanking producers for their financial support. Todd Brink is knighted as "Sir Macaroni au Fromage" after a $913 donation. The hosts discuss "Jobs Karma" and the community's role in supporting the show's independent production model.

donation· knighting· sir macaroni au fromage· jobs karma· no agenda stream

1:11:54 So they could have kept O'Reilly because O'Reilly has weathered these things before, but at this point with the two kids coming on board who are Democrats... Fox is done. I mean they were looking ready to get rid of him and I do have a couple anecdotes that I heard Glenn Beck discuss which is funny. Let's let's do that after we take a little break Okay, and with that I would like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C Whoever c stands for Caucasian homo sapien of above average age Dvorak? I'd rather say in the morning to you Adam Curry also in the morning Simpson Seedwoods on the ground feeding the air subs in the water all the names And it's out there. Yes in the morning to everybody in the war room no agenda stream calm good to have you all there Thank you very much

1:12:36 And I also need to say in the morning, to our artist for episode 9 or 2-2 Gut Punch. That was brought us by Mark G. Nice piece! The warning free speech zone which we noticed that he even had a little grungy kind of dirt on the image as if it was actually a sign somewhere. Yeah, yeah it's fantastic. Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can find all of the artwork that's uploaded where you can also upload And that is as always highly appreciated, as are all the end of show mixes UK PMX Oh my Bosch Danny loose Stepford Wives Dave Carbonu Abel Kirby Jungle Jones Chris Wilson Tom Stark weather. Thank you all so much for what you do Charlie Tango Foxtrot We want to thank Todd Brink

1:13:26 Sir Macaroni au fromage in New Berlin, Wisconsin for $913 donation. He says I became a nice and upgrade now I became a knight in 2013, sorry became a douche. But I quit my job and started my own business in 2014 to be with my family but Adam and John you have been there for me including my brother's cancer scare which after the canceled cancer jingles the cancer miraculously disappeared." No! That is what it says yeah we don't take credit for this. It's karma its karma works with only works with the whole group it's not something that we do

1:14:07 The donation, it is a group thing. This donation should take me to Barron and now I'm donating $50 a month by check so be a douchey no more my business is leanculturegroup.com. I do business and innovation coaching Noah Jenna Nation, let me know if I can help you. So anyone needs coaching? Thank you at culturegroup.com Can I get a Jobs Karma and John's Mac & Cheese? Yes! I was knighted Sir Macaroni Au Fromage. And he will be baronet or baron? Well I guess it would be Baronette if he's upgraded one. Perfect

1:14:49 You slaves can get used to mac and cheese. Macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese Jobs! Jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma From Groningen, Netherlands. He has a funny note. Comment? Keep up the good great work! There's no other comments no need to look for an email. Thanks save work I thought that was good people there take it take a tip from Sir Lenart there yeah knows what he's doing Yeah guys is on point

CHAPTER 19 / 41 Discussion

International Producers, Ethiopia Mission and Universal Life Church

Producers from Sweden and Australia send donations, with one teacher planning a 12-month vocational mission to Ethiopia. The hosts discuss their credentials as ministers of the Universal Life Church and Doctors of Divinity. They encourage listeners to use their "Executive Producer" titles on LinkedIn to assist with career advancement.

stockholm· ethiopia· universal life church· doctor of divinity· no agenda social

1:17:20 So they give you unlimited vacations but they're not paid and they don't accrue. And if you take them, you're dead in the water? Yeah. We know how that works. Oh yeah. Jor is a j-o-a-r edinfelt in Stockholm Sweden $250 in the morning. Long time listener, first-time donor so please de-douche me. You got it? You've been de-douched First a shout out to Atomic Rod and his atomic insights for turning me on to the show. Ah nice! Kudos to him That's Sir Atomic Rod to you Yes, I was hoping to attend the meeting at The Big Apple steal a hug from Dame Tanya and pet Nick the rat but unfortunately I can't Oh like the meetup? Yeah it was the meet up

1:18:17 But unfortunately I can't afford to hop across the pond right now with a strong dollar, weak Swedish krona. But hopefully i'll be able to make it next time! Keep up the good work and please play the following clips Kim Jong-Yam Jam Jam MILF OMG Amazing And some dating karma Peace out! And hail apple! You've got karma. Uh, Struce. I just realized that three years since my last donation when I reported on my reflections of my trip to the US to see Black Sabbath at the Hollywood Bowl in 2014 and to attend my daughter's wedding at The Elvis Chapel in Lost Wages... Now if there was ever a trip that says America? That's it right there baby! Yeah! That's it right there. Totally We also appropriated Black Sabbath as ours. Screw you Britain

1:19:41 He's got Black Sabbath at the Hollywood Bowl, which is a dynamite venue and then he goes to Los Angeles to Elvis Chapel. Which there are many! Yes So it's past time for me to dig in and give something to the cause. But I will be asking for something back, I work as a teacher for TAFE New South Wales, a state-run vocational education provider like all government operations here TAFE is being turned into a for profit business rather than a proud educational establishment we once were The word education is now a no-no. It's all about skills and training and course completions at any cost. At TAF, fail is no longer a valid educational outcome regardless of how dumb the student is."

1:20:28 So it's cut, cut, cut with me and a number of my colleagues to get the education...to get the Eddard Stark treatment i.e., The Chopping Block That must be a cultural historical reference Yes, something has to do with that I'll look it up Yeah, look it up In June so I've put in for a 12 month gig in Ethiopia Nice Which comes off will be a fantastic Oh Edward! It's this Game Of Thrones reference Blow me Well, Black Sabbath Game of Thrones I can see it. He needs a job because karma is the point. I've been eyeing off or eyeing off this interesting little phrase... I've been eying off knighthood far too long and this donation brings me pretty close if Ethiopia comes off i'll be lining up to have the sword come down on me to be Sir Robb of The Great Southern Land most worthwhile title dad to my

1:21:26 esteemed doctorate of religious something or other from the universe. Hey, I'm one of them! It's a Doctor of Divinity." Okay? Yes... From the Universal Life Church is that the idea? Yes, I have put it there. I am a doctor of divinity. And I'm a minister from the Universal Life Church. I've also a minister. In fact, I talked to Kirby Hensley personally. You are also a man of-a brother of The Cloth, I see I'm not a douchebag so no de-douching for me, but I like a clippity-clop don't eat me Hillary and two to the head hopefully to finish... finish her off. Okay Cheers Rob Wales Clippity-clop Don't Eat Me And what was the last oops? Two To The Head And Two To The Head hold on a second where is uh

1:22:13 Yes, okay got it You've got karma That concludes our list of well-wishers executive producers and associate executive producers for show 923 yes. Thank you all very much for your support expected to be Problematic today, and I'm glad people stepped up. This is very helpful Yes Not a lot from America know a lot of foreigners like that. I like that well I think it's because we turn into a hate show All right everybody these are real credits the executive producer title and associate executive producer title can be used anywhere

1:23:04 LinkedIn apparently seems to help people get interested in hiring you. So you can put it there in your CV or any kind of resume and we thank all our execs and associate executive producers, We'll be thanking everyone who came in at $50 or above later on the program And remember another show coming up on Thursday! We do need all the support you can muster for us! Devorac.org slash N-A And of course always be on the lookout for ways and reasons to propagate The Formula Our formula is this We hit people in the mouth. Shut up, snake! Hey citizen... Shut up, snake! Yay! Alright I've been working on the Petri dish known as noagendasocial.com which is just phenomenally interesting to me

CHAPTER 20 / 41 Discussion

Mastodon Controversy, Venus Rosalima and Adult Content

The hosts address a controversy on the Mastodon social network involving a user known for "Nazi scalping" rhetoric. It was discovered that the individual had performed in adult videos under the name Venus Rosalima. The hosts clarify that the footage sent to them was not a Photoshop but a genuine solo performance.

mastodon· no agenda social· venus rosalima· adult video· fediverse

1:24:01 From a historical perspective and from what's going on right now in our world today, and it's a little frightening really what I'm coming up against First I'd like to point out that you remember the the hundred scalp Nazi girl Oh yes, then hunter scalp Nelson. He's gonna go get 100 Nazi scalps yeah So people had sent me images on Mastodon, by noagendasocial.com which were nicely hidden by the little not safe for work thing and it was like I thought it was a photoshop of her head like on a porn picture and don't send me that douchebag! I'm not interested in your jokes

1:24:40 Okay, I apologize. Turns out she has done porn under the name Venus Rosalima. I saw that picture you're talking about and couldn't see any evidence of Photoshop on it Right Well, I just didn't believe it but then I was sent a video And have you seen the video? You probably haven't No, I didn't see the video and from the looks at this still shot...I'm not gonna watch It was pretty much like a Girls Gone Wild X-rated version You know, hey baby why don't you take off your pants? You know hey. The guy off camera...you know one of those So that really confuses me about her so I just wanted to plant that out there and say that is true she's and I Don't want to say it's porn necessarily Yeah, but it's a solo performance if you catch my drift

1:25:26 Well, she's just doing your thing in front of a camera. Yeah with the huge vibrator by the way big blue thing That thing was frightened that scared me nothing felt kind of did it do it Did he have one of those did you have a rope on it? You had to start it by pulling it real hard Actually she couldn't get at working in the beginning didn't work I can get it to work okay so that's just an aside Now, so we have this issue in the Fediverse John. The Fediverse! This is the universe of federated servers between GNU Social, Mastodon and anything else that uses O- what is it? Ostatus? Yeah, Ostatus

CHAPTER 21 / 41 Discussion

The Fediverse, Admin Control and Morbid Gain Psychology

The hosts discuss the technical and social structure of the "Fediverse," noting that Mastodon administrators have significant control over blocking other servers. They introduce the psychological concepts of primary, secondary, and tertiary "morbid gain" to explain why some individuals seek out victimhood status for social or financial benefit.

fediverse· mastodon· ostatus· social justice warriors· primary morbid gain· psychology

1:26:17 Which has been going on for 10 years. And I think we talked about, on a previous show when this was just maybe two episodes ago is how long have been talking about it? That this was started originally by people who felt that they were not protected on Twitter and they wanted to be safe from Nazis and white nationalists. Well my understanding is that the original, this code base and the guy who did it who my son JC apparently works a block away from or somebody runs into. You mean the Mastodon Code? Or the new social... Yeah, the Mastodon Code. That's UGEN or whatever. It was originally as a Facebook distributed version of Facebook. Okay you know all that. Oh yeah! It's been around for a long time. But the point is they didn't feel safe they wanted to build their own little walled garden

1:27:10 Yeah, and so they and so you know they created this the social network which now has a very much more familiar interface But the underpinnings are pretty much the same And the problem is everyone wants to be able to connect to everybody else, but when you connect a server with hashtag dude bros. That's what Noah Jenner Social is now seen as though there's dude bros over here. Oh we're a dude bro network? Well were Nazis, we're alt-right, we're white nationalists and we're dude bros. They have to have ways to lock that out

1:27:49 And so what was decided instead of which would be appropriate, I believe to enable you as a user to say You know what everything coming from that particular server just I don't want to see it. It's just and I'm not interested I may want to follow a few people So make sure that I can still follow them but I've not interested in seeing that in my Federated timeline because oh I might get triggered So instead of doing that, where you have that control which would be appropriate for the platform. They gave it to the administrator so the administrator by himself can say ha! And the guy Yujin who we were talking about he is right in the center of the social justice warrior movement and so he's making these decisions and because its open source

1:28:39 You can fork the project and go make it different if you want to. Sure, and It's not happening. This was proposed in January, it's just not... you know it's not this- What's not happening? What is not happening is the individual blocking capability versus the admin and I'm pretty sure that most of the administrators love that control. I personally hate it. Sure they do! Yeah they love it so if their going from a place that was controlled and now they want someone else to keep them safe and they badger and they pester the admins in order to keep themselves safe But why, why hasn't this...why haven't they shut it off all together? And I've really...I'm gonna get into some definitions. What do you mean? Why haven't they not made it so that you can just shut everything off? Why isn't even a federated network? Why is it just closed-off? Just done, closed-off. Well, what you said so far

1:29:38 It seems logical to me that why is it not closed off because the other federated snowflake networks want to talk to each other. No, no! That would be my guess? They want to be harassed they need it but they wanted us the snowflakes they want to be able to point and shriek then they can't live without it Otherwise this would have closed off 10 years ago. They actually love it, it feeds their soul It feeds them... no John! It feeds them There is a term for this I'm gonna get here the term is primary well its primary secondary and tertiary gain

1:30:25 Primary morbid gain or secondary morbid gains used in medicine to describe the significant subconscious psychological motivators patients may have when presenting with symptoms. It is important to note that if these motivators are recognized by the patient, especially if symptoms are fabricated or exaggerated for personal gain this is instead considered malingering so they don't really know they're doing it Primary morbid gain produces positive internal motivations. For example, a patient might feel guilty about being unable to perform a task. If the medical condition justifying an ability is present it may lead to decreased psychological stress. Secondary morbid gain can also be a component of any disease but it's an external motivator. The patients' disease allows him or her to miss work avoid military duty obtain financial compensation obtain drugs or avoid a jail sentence these would be examples of secondary gain

1:31:14 The tertiary morbid gain, I'm sorry an example would be individual having stomach cramps when household chores are completed by a family in the context of a person with a significant mental or psychiatric disability. This effect is sometimes called secondary handicap then tertiary morbid gain is when a third party such as a relative or friend is motivated to gain sympathy or benefits from the illness of the victim so all of this is about gaining benefits from being a victim. And one of the main ways, I'm not going to call them snowflakes...the social justice warriors... Yeah by the way, I don't like the word snowflake either but it was appropriate at that time to get the conversation. But I don't like social justice warriors either! Well they call themselves that so let them be. Let them be

CHAPTER 22 / 41 Discussion

Patreon Funding, Emotional Distress Lawsuits and Workplace Flirting

The hosts argue that social justice activism has become a business model funded by platforms like Patreon. They trace the rise of "butt-hurtness" to legal changes that allowed for monetary damages based on emotional distress. A discussion ensues about the disappearance of workplace flirting and the increasing litigiousness of professional environments.

patreon· emotional distress· lawsuits· workplace flirting· social justice warriors

1:32:01 That's, you know... they call themselves SJWs. Whatever you want to call yourself doesn't matter. Douchebags! Now what was my point? You just got me off of I was uh.... No let's back up. You were going through the morbidity desire. Ah yeah, I got it. Okay so he and I witnessed this myself and this Yujen character is a part of it The whole life of these people is to point and shriek, to bring people down through law. Getting law on books. Bringing people down for triggering being rude just anything you don't like and the way you fund this lifestyle of yours unbelievably is through Patreon

1:32:46 So, I'm not kidding. And right now there's a fight going on and yes because Yu Jin who is the man in charge...I'm sorry didn't mean to assume his gender but he's the man in charge He has a Patreon and he's making about, I don't know $3500 a month. And now everyone is getting pissed off at him! Well how come we're contributing to the code? How come we shouldn't be? We should get some of that Patreon money! So now there is a war between Patreon money and LibrePay and all these other... You know this is the gig The gig is do some social justice warrior stuff Have people send you a dollar a month

1:33:29 To let you know, you're doing a great job. Well that's the same with the girl...the porn star or star. Exactly! The porn girl who got punched out and she put up a Patreon or GoFundMe thing immediately Yes yes yes now one of our producers sent a note after the previous show and said I don't know if you read the note He or she forget who it was believes that all of this started when the court system made it possible for monetary damages of emotional distress and That was a long time ago Sure, but yes. It was probably 30 years ago I don't know maybe longer hmm probably not too much longer but

1:34:16 But let's look at some of the definition. I think it was in the 60s, maybe 70s? Maybe one of our lawyers can chime in. I think it was early 80s if I recall... I don't know okay anyway beside the point Well when you bring money into it all of a sudden your pain becomes real So, you know you can sue for emotional distress if you witness the death or injury of a family member. If your bystander to an event that causes fear of death and injury and your actually in the zone of danger...if the deceased body of a family member is mishandled I mean you can pretty much sue for emotional distress over anything

1:34:57 and several ways in which emotional distress may be brought up in the court of law. Intentional infliction of emotional distress, negligent infliction of emotional distress, parasitic emotional distress using emotional distress to get damages for pain and suffering or using emotional distress to recover damages for loss of consortium And I think this is one of the only countries in the world where we have this so ingrained in our legal system. In fact, when growing up in Europe people would always laugh about America as Americans are always suing everybody and they would all...and there's a phrase let's not get American situation here we don't want an American like situation! Always referring to people suing people over apparently frivolous stuff So this has become an actual business

1:35:48 business and these people are perfect for it because when you start to codify hate speech, and when you start to create laws that disallow people from speaking certain things. You know then is just people be lying in wait It's worse than the lawyers used to be. This is how it kind of all comes together, you know? When I took my company public in 96', I remember there were lawyers downstairs waiting to ask women did anyone say anything to you? Did they comment on your hair or your dress? Did anyone...did you feel uncomfortable and we got sued not for me nothing i did but we got sued and of course it was for exactly the amount that our directors and officers insurance would cover which it's a scam

1:36:33 It's a total scam. And this has become a lifestyle, John! It's become a lifestyle they thrive on it and they love it and when lying only gets them what they want... They don't even know their lying. They don't even realize it You can see, what I love about the social network is you can see all of these agendas and all these things playing out right now in real time. You can see how cr- I mean seriously insane behavior about the smallest things that example of our producer who yelled at you and this is why I wanted to come back to it

1:37:18 You know, Bob, how dare you and women? Bobby insulting. But I really miss flirting in the workplace. You know why because you want to call someone out on it. I guarantee you this is an illness of epic proportion and we are right as rife. This this is going to end very badly well at answer when the depression ends. I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure because all they'll do is get more Patreon money with a depression ends which will be 2020 Things change. Yeah, you're right at this moment in time 2017 you're right at it. I have the absolute bottom for ya! I got the absolute bottom of the pit and we've called this The War on Men is what we call it traditionally

CHAPTER 23 / 41 Discussion

Supreme Court Interruptions, NPR Study and Gender Bias

NPR reports on a Northwestern University study claiming male Supreme Court justices interrupt female justices three times more often than their male colleagues. The study highlights Justice Sonia Sotomayor being interrupted during an affirmative action case. The hosts argue that interruptions are a matter of power dynamics and conversational style rather than purely gender-based bias.

supreme court· npr· northwestern university· sonia sotomayor· gender bias· interruptions

1:38:15 It really, this really came to the foreground about four you know Gamergate which we didn't understand because people were trying to explain to us all these characters and who was lying and who was a bitch. And what I didn't understand... So we just pulled away from it? We had nothing to do with it? No because it's like what are you trying to tell me?! But people are trying to point out to us that there's this incredible movement of young people who are this way, who are this crazy and who believe that they can go and get scalps. And then oh I got punched all my victim pay me send me money it's a whole ecosystem and it's all about

1:38:55 White men are just, they need to die. They need to die, die, die! You are the problem especially if you're straight but if your gay fuck it your the problem too and now we have NPR with this report this to me is the bottom of the barrel A new study sheds light on how women are treated at one very high profile workplace The Supreme Court Researchers at Northwestern University found that male Supreme Court justices interrupt female justices three times as often as they interrupt each other. The study authors have written about their research in Harvard Business Review, and the review's senior editor Kurt Nickish joins us now. Hi, Kurt! Hey Jeremy And first we have an example of what this study is talking about This is from a very high profile affirmative action case In 2015 where the plaintiff's attorney Bert Rine was facing questions from Justice Sotomayor

1:39:48 Have we heard this clip before? Yep. I had this clip, I'm sorry. I couldn't remember it Well, I think you can continue to play it because my thesis after the whole thing was said and done. I think your thesis is better but my thesis was Sotomayor is so damn boring that they have to interrupt her. Oh right yeah you're right but I guess maybe... You had this clip from NPR too? This actual clip? Yeah no that's the actual clip yeah. Crap! I'm sorry well I'll finish it because it's a good reminder If you don't consider race The holistic percentage, whatever it is... ...is gonna be virtually all white. And that is incorrect and that's an assumption that has no basis in the law. I feel that's a very valid point to jump in! That's fucking racism right there! I don't care what- who she is? That was racist! It'll be virtually all- If you remember the other clip which also had Scalia interrupting her

1:40:47 It's not considered appropriate to do what he did, period. Under any circumstances at the Supreme Court level I didn't realize that then and the fact that she didn't call him out on it and then condemn him which is what my response was She should...she's the one who should have taken some initiative here she didn't she put up with it She should have set up a Patreon page right away Well, she's not in the right age Virtually all white And that has been correct And that is an assumption basis in this record. It's a stereotypical racist assumption, that is what it is. He's probably sick and tired of this bull crap. Justice Durant wants to rely on let me finish my point Let me finish my point we heard Chief Justice Roberts step in there Kurt

1:41:33 How much more are female justices interrupted than male justices? Yeah, besides going back and looking at all those transcripts the researchers looked carefully at three years. So back in 1990 when there was just one woman justice Sandra Day O'Connor she was interrupted or of all the times anybody was interrupted 35.7% percent of the time it was directed at her in 2002 when there were two justices nearly half the interruptions were directed at those two women justices. And in 2015, when there were three women justices—so one-third of the court—two thirds of the interruptions were directed to them. How does this translate into other professions? People who don't find themselves on the Supreme Court…do women get interrupted more than men? There are women across the country listening right now nodding their heads. They know this instinctually but the research bears this out. Women get talked over much more than men in all sorts of settings

1:42:30 So that's partly due to unconscious bias cultural reasons and Research also shows that a lot of this has to do with just the sense of control so if you feel like you're in power Then you kind of dominate the conversation or you feel empowered to interrupt other people What's troubling here is that these are very powerful women? They're on the highest court in the land, and they're still getting stepped on yeah. I'm sorry I can't recall that clip at all but then that's that can happen oh So yeah, the white man is... The white man. It's the white man. The white man is horrible but- But the white man typically doesn't cut your clitoris Just keep that in mind

CHAPTER 24 / 41 Discussion

Jordan Peterson, Gender Pronouns and University of Toronto Debate

Professor Jordan Peterson appeared on CBC to discuss his opposition to legislation mandating the use of alternative gender pronouns. Peterson argues that the government should not have the right to compel specific speech. A transgender professor counters that Peterson's stance causes "real harm" to non-binary individuals on campus.

jordan peterson· university of toronto· cbc· gender pronouns· bill c-16· free speech

1:43:06 But it's spreading, John. It is spreading and it is very bad and not just America I'm not sure about the laws in Candanavia for suing for distress or damages My guess is that its probably ensconced or shrined somewhere We have a big brouhaha at the university up there in Candanavia where the president of the university is saying Im not going to use your stupid ass pronouns For a minute I thought you had become provost or something And so on this show, this is CBC. They have the president of the university and a transgendered non-binary professor from the same university I pulled a little snippet because it's just interesting Professor Peterson let's begin with you Why are you against the use of alternate pronouns?

1:43:56 I'm against the use of legislation to determine what words that myself and other people are required to utter. But would you use alternate pronouns if a student asked you too? I think i've made my position on that clear already Well, perhaps not your audience at home who are just being introduced to this Would you use alternate pronouns? And why not? Because I don't believe that other people have the right to determine what language I used especially when it's backed by punitive legislation And when the words that are being required are the constructions, they're artificial constructions of people I regard as radical ideologues whose viewpoint I do not share.

1:44:35 Well, we have a graphic to show our audience at home. Just some of the pronouns... Bring up the graphic! ...being used or asked to be used as alternates among them you see here Z or zim, Z or hear, Z or zeer also hey. Zeer? Who can keep up with this?! I like hey. Hey! But i think he misread it but listen... Hear, Z or zeer also hay or a rather oh hey i thought hey I like that. Hey, hey, hey, per so just some of the alternate pronouns there uh professor Pete when you're here notice notice alternate pronouns it's already bizarre Z or zeer also hay

1:45:19 or a rather and per so just some of the alternate pronouns there. Professor Pete, when you hear professor Peterson saying that this is oppressive how do you respond to that? Well the Peterson drama has done real harm to real people on campus he's made it harder to be transgender or non-binary I know this from personal experience i'm non binary and transgender and I know how its felt to be on the UofT campus for the last month and also know from... How does it make it harder Oh, because apparently it's quite a burden. Hold on a second! That one guy won't say G or Z or A or whatever these other words are? Yes And so now it makes it more difficult for that person to become what he or she is Support my Patreon

1:46:05 Yes. How? How does it make it more difficult for them because it's triggering, it is emotional distress... I don't want to hear an answer From personal experience and non-binary and transgender And I know how its felt to be on the U of T campus for the last month And also know from private communications with other affected people You know in New Zealand where I grew up academics have a statutory role enshrined in the Education Act to be a critic and conscience of society. So I think that's an idea worth exporting to Canada, so I'd like to give Peterson about a B plus for his critic role recently and F for the conscience part A student once said to me when I finally obtained tenure Now professor that now you have obtained superpowers You must agree to use them for good

1:46:55 for peace and justice. So I invite Peterson to start doing more of that." Well, Professor Peterson those... Superpowers? This is Guy High?! You only get superpowers if you have Tourette's my friend not if you're transgendered non-binary. "...obtain super powers you must agree to use them for good for peace and justice. So I invite Peterson to start doing more of that. Well, Professor Peterson those who are asking for this alternate use of pronouns they are saying it boils down to respecting their human rights how do you respond to that? I don't think it boils down to respecting your human rights

1:47:33 I think that it's an imposition on freedom of speech that is being implemented at a legislative level. I also think if there was naturally evolving solution to the linguistic problem, that is being posed by small fraction of transgender community people would have already adopted it We never had situation in usage of English before required legislation to produce transformation manner which people spoke has a very dangerous precedent. So it's one thing to tell people what they can't say, so for example we have legislation making it illegal to do such things as deny the Holocaust It is completely different things to demand that people use certain words when they are formulating their own ideas

1:48:18 This is... Wait, are you telling me Canada's gonna put some legislation through that requires you to say G or you have to ask somebody what their pronoun is by law? That is the idea. So you say the right pronoun instead of making a mistake seeing some guy with long beard and hair and calling him a he when it should be called something else Is that what your saying to me? That is the idea yes Great Yeah thats the idea And observation The social justice warrior only comes in female form. Then yes, I'm assuming a lot of stuff you...I have yet to see a transgendered woman from female to male who is a social justice warrior the other way around it's everybody is feminine who was a social justice warrior and this is so now we're down to a war on men

CHAPTER 25 / 41 Discussion

Suffragette Movement History, Land Ownership and Safe Spaces

The hosts discuss the history of the suffragette movement, noting that early voting rights were often tied to land ownership for both men and women. They contrast historical activism with modern "safe spaces." They emphasize that the No Agenda show is a safe space for the hosts only because it is directly supported by the audience.

suffragettes· land ownership· voting rights· safe spaces· value for value

1:49:11 If you're not sensitive, if... A feminization of the Western male. Yes yes yes and well that's that makes it easier for the yeah And then I understand. For the takeover? Yes! I understand that women have feel they've gotten a raw deal. I would like to point out though that if you say this started maybe with the suffragette movement in America. I only learned recently that the suffragette movement worked this way The only people who could vote at the time were landowners. So there were a lot of men who could not vote either at the time, that's not the way this story is told anymore and the suffragettes came in and they said we don't care if we own land or not women should be allowed to vote And they got their wish but it was not because women weren't allowed It was people had no landownership were allowed to vote Did you know that part of the story?

1:50:03 You know, if I did, I forgot it. And have to go back and revisit." So those are the original social justice warriors and it's a very powerful movement women hold power in general women I think hold power power but it will continue until...I think we're all gonna wake up one day and I hope you get your wish because you're going see its not going turn out exactly the way you thought No flirting in the workplace! We'll have no flirting in the workplace But it has come to the point where, not on this program but in real life I feel caged.

1:50:47 Yeah, I don't feel caged here. This is a safe space because the only reason it's a safe space and you don't feel cage There's only one reason and one reason only is because our support is direct Yes Support our page we were if we were working for a bigger organization I said this before I say too often I probably beat it up beating into death yeah Which is that? We had been we had been fired over no but probably from this show today at least twice yep and especially becoming a hate show. We lost all our advertisers, they'd be gone and they would be forced out you know so there's couple of things about just drifting back this is kind of broad sweeping topic. It's all connected though, it's all connected I agree. And I think O'Reilly ousters part of it in him becoming podcasters grip. It shows us the way to the future doesn't it? Yeah

CHAPTER 26 / 41 Discussion

Roger Ailes, Glenn Beck and New Allegations Against Sean Hannity

Glenn Beck shared anecdotes about Roger Ailes attempting to pit Fox News hosts against one another. Meanwhile, new allegations have surfaced from Debbie Schlissel, who accuses Sean Hannity of inappropriate behavior similar to the claims against Bill O'Reilly. The hosts suggest this is part of a broader "hit list" targeting Fox News personalities.

roger ailes· glenn beck· sean hannity· debbie schlissel· fox news· sexual harassment

1:51:40 I think he's gonna do his first podcast. He's been doing podcasts on his website all along, but he hasn't done anything about this being ousted This will be done. I think on Wednesday. I think it's gonna get a huge everyone's gonna listen Yeah, of course Glenn Beck was on some it was either It'll be some minor thing and he, and all the right-wingers have different guys from Dallas Jones who never liked O'Reilly to Limbaugh who blames the whole thing on media matters and bots. But Beck had an interesting comment to say in this kind of play that was some other stuff that you start to hear is that Ailes was really the problem here all along. Right? He was the problem guy

1:52:24 He became a monster as just an old petarastic. Yeah, icky A-hole Well, he's just a kind of a douchebag guy. And I do want to say again and we do this very certainly we do this program with this mindset We've been in entertainment most of our lives So when you hear Roger Ailes He said hey spin around let me take a look at let me see okay yeah great all these women all of them who have all brought forth these horrible pressures and

1:53:00 the weight of this horrible harassment. I would like to point out they all wear slut clothes under glass tables on Fox News, you know? You gotta take some responsibility sometime somewhere. Hey that's why I think-I give credit to Paula Zahn! Paula Zahn was brought onto Fox and she was-and the first thing they said is show more legs? She just quit! Screw you, I'm not gonna take this and she left She had great legs, but she left. She wasn't going to put up with it and that's what you do? You don't like it get out! Why didn't you quit right away?! What is this other woman oh they did this and then I worked there three years yeah I mean almost every one of the stories is the same Oh the guy made a pass at me and then I worked there three years why didn't you quit if it was so offensive or become a podcaster Yeah there you go big money now So Beck said when he first went to Fox

1:53:56 When Beck first went to Fox, he noticed that people were squabbling a lot and somehow he sidled up to O'Reilly and they kind of began to know each other. And then says a week later Roger Ailes got him in his office and said you gotta be careful with that O'Reilly's bad guy is gonna stab me in the back. That what Ailes would tell Beck And then Beck and O'Reilly started to discuss this stuff that goes on behind the scenes. And they made it a gentleman's agreement, which I think is why they went on the road as kind of a comedy act after that that if they ever hear anything about, that the other guy supposedly said about them he would they would confront each other to straighten it out. And I think that helped because apparently Ailes was doing this all the time and if you remember the clip I had from Kirsten Powers going on about some minor thing is that she was upset by being called a blondie she goes into Aile's and Ailes says oh he's a jackass you can't trust him She said he's got a bunch of dirty pictures and he keeps all this

1:54:57 All her recollections of O'Reilly having dirty photos, being a lech, being a creep came from aisles telling her that. Oh she hadn't even seen it herself! Right? Wait wait wait John I've got information man new shit has come to light Uh oh here's starting and yet again we have another media maven columnist attorney and former Fox News contributor Debbie Schlissel Now she's a right-wing radio talk show host, appeared on today's Pat Campbell Show and accused Fox News primetime host Sean Hannity of the same type of behavior that led to Bill O'Reilly leaving the beleaguered network earlier this week. Among the allegations Schlissel claims that while at an appearance in Detroit which they both attended Hannity invited her... Oh it's the same script! Invited her back to his hotel room. Schlissel says that after she turned down advances she was not invited back on his program

1:55:53 Quote, this kind of stuff is all over the place at Fox News and anything that has to do with Sean Hannity. Oh boy. Wow! That's a great one That'd make clip of the day. Well, there's a, just as you said earlier in the program, he's the next target and they will get him. The only guys that they can't get well besides Dave Letterman who retired, they can't get limbo because they've already tried and they're not going to try again. There's no point it just marginalize them by not talking about him. Michael Savage apparently is pretty hard to get because he's, you know, he's just, he'll go after you at some way

CHAPTER 27 / 41 Discussion

Tucker Carlson's Formula, Tammy Bruce and UC Davis Flag Controversy

Tucker Carlson interviewed Tammy Bruce regarding a controversy at UC Davis where the student body voted to remove the American flag from their meeting room. The hosts critique Carlson's interview style, which they describe as a "one-trick pony" formula involving a specific facial expression and repetitive questioning. They argue he lacks the depth and versatility of Bill O'Reilly.

tucker carlson· tammy bruce· uc davis· american flag· fox news· student loans

1:56:30 And he's also going to retire any and remember you can stay up-to-date on everything that's going on with this at Sean Hannity calm yes, absolutely and Give it a so yeah. Yeah, this is good Meanwhile I do have my little tuckle Tucker Carlson thing so Chuck who? I always suspected as part of the part of the problem who got these guys out. I mean, there's no coincidence that he comes in and gets a show next thing you know, but Megan quits and then who has been manipulated she quits and then Carlson moves up and then next thing you know, he moves up again. He is now in the prime time spot Now I have two three actually three short clips from one of his shows this is

1:57:13 This is him with Tammy Bruce. Tammy Bruce is a lesbian right-wing talk show host on the radio in Southern California She's very outspoken and she's very erudite What does her pronoun? I think she's a she but let's listen to this and this was about, it all came about because apparently at UC Davis The student body decided they didn't want to have the American flag hanging in the little hall where they have their meetings.

1:57:50 It seems like who cares whether they want the flag or not, it's a student body of UC Davis. No offense and but there was a big deal with the right wingers oh my god you know they hate the flag they want to burn in this so they bring Tammy so Tucker brings Tammy Bruce on here's why Tucker is not going to succeed in this time slot he's gonna flame out okay for one thing if you watch his show he has what he does one bit He has a two box set. It's the same format he rolls it over and over again. Yes, so he got the box on the right with the person he is talking to and the box on his left with his face His face has exact same look every time no matter who it is

1:58:33 He's got his mouth really small, a shrunken mouth. Like- like a little anus? Yeah, little butthole mouth with open very slightly open Invitingly open It's a little open and the look is oh my god I can't believe i'm hearing what this person is saying That's the look I'm flabbergasted that is the look on his face permanently yeah right? Right? And then he'll, of course, badgers the person. But the format just to complete that... The format is you get something that somebody said that was outrageous which is maybe a headline it says I want to kill the president and whatever it is

1:59:18 And then he'll start talking, hey first of all nice to have you on. Great thank you for coming on so you wrote this about kill the president and then what was your thinking behind that? Then the next question is always do you really want to kill the president or whatever that one line is which they can never answer because it's always been done as framing of their argument And it's always that little thing and he just keeps asking then after three, four times depending on how funny their answer is. Then they'll say okay well I've had enough thank you didn't answer my question goodbye thanks for coming on He's gonna run out of guests eventually. Well, here is where the secondary problem is besides this look into this very simple formula that runs out of steam with the right wingers like Tammy Bruce unlike O'Reilly The funny thing about O'Reilly was he would not let right wingers because he was a democrat we have to always remember that he's not a conservative or one of these...He's not like Hannity at all

2:00:15 And, according to Beck when he was working with him he says Hannity is also an outrageous perfectionist and a guy who really knows how to make entertaining TV. Him and Ailes were at the same level they were very good in making a show that people start to watch and like. By the way I have no reason to believe he didn't make a pass at Schlesinger. I'm sure he did Who? Beck? Hannity Oh, well maybe. It wouldn't surprise me what are you gonna do? Anyway so but he's not if Hannity and Hannah is a workaholic but O'Reilly is kind of a perfectionist which is why it blows up a lot and he has and but he's good at making shows Tucker Carlson just to just a Kind of a committee like a stand-up comic. He's got one good gag And that's what he does

2:01:04 When O'Reilly had a right winger on like Tammy Bruce and she'd say anything like she says here with Tucker Carlson, let's play clip one and then we'll go from there. Everyone's view of what the United States is different And here I think what the problem is that We've got a dynamic now where you have young people who are going to college Who are effectively not having to pay for it Who view America as an oppressor state. This is a statement that they view obviously America as the problem, they don't want to be associated with it and yet I can guarantee you that these are individuals also who probably have federal loans, federal student loans who are there probably on state grants and perhaps even on alumni grants as well if the nation is so offensive to them which they argue effectively it is then perhaps they shouldn't enjoy federal loans paid for with American tax dollars

2:01:54 Yeah, it's an argument I've heard and it doesn't go away. Okay hold on a second paid for the loans are not paid for by American tax dollars they're loans. Well but of course they'll never be paid off. She also said young people are not having to pay for college And then she says they're all taking out these loans at the tax. This is bullcrap! O'Reilly would not let her get away with saying that in the middle of her saying young people are not having to pay for college, which is bull crap. Bull crap he goes uh-huh. Uh huh yeah exactly He just agrees with the people on the other side of this, whatever. That's because he listens very closely for the things he is looking for. He is not listening to what someone saying. He listens for the little slip up that can get his hook into and that's no really a great interview. With a right winger unlike O'Reilly who was not a right winger

2:02:48 He doesn't even do that. He just lets them say whatever they want to say like the uh-huh, whatever He's not listening for anything because he's letting them go and yak away Let's listen to part two We're looking I think at a group at a generation if you will at this stage now certainly the Millennials That have either not had American history Have had teachers who have indoctrinated them into this dynamic liberal leftist teachers or their individuals who are In this instance, the person at UC Davis Public School is also a naturalized citizen. And so they've come here not to necessarily become part of America but

2:03:24 uh... but to punish it and i think we need where we're in trouble if this is the next generation as it was no doubt in charge of business and uh... and social culture will show our if the people who wind up running your country hate that country that right suicide my question though is why are we surprised if you allow generations of kids to grow up education system that teaches them the country they live in his immoral fatally flawed from the start that's disgusting enough worth defending into the ideals it was founded upon a repulsive like This is what you get, isn't it? Well it is and yet Americans tend to not raise children like that. This is what's fascinating Is that its either a choice of individuals going to public schools where this kind of mob mentality prevails versus private schools And another instance Clemson has paid $38,000 taxpayer dollars for diversity course that explains if you expect people to show up on time Tucker It's racist So that you've got

2:04:21 Now look, I just think that means there's gonna be fewer- Wait a minute. Okay You gotta explain that one to me If you show up on time it's racist? Yes This is uh... No this is interesting because- No no no no Just stop! Just stop! Well that's interesting I didn't even get the part three Boom Well you can get two Now let's go over there what she just said and what he's oh yeah, blah blah. Now this is again the perfect reason that he's not going to cut it on this spot because he lets this stuff just go He's not like O'Reilly was which is...he had a team of people that would check this stuff out and I don't know how much pre-interview they did but it seemed pretty tight to me

CHAPTER 28 / 41 Discussion

Clemson University Diversity Training, Timeliness and Racism Claims

Clemson University reportedly spent $38,000 on a diversity training course for staff that suggested expecting people to be on time could be perceived as racist. The hosts compare this to their experiences with corporate training at MTV and other organizations. They argue that such courses are often "nonsense" designed to incite controversy rather than improve productivity.

clemson university· diversity training· racism· mtv· corporate culture

2:05:09 Okay, Clemson this thing that says that cameras what I got to put your races in the show Oh there if you read it if you roll it back so there's they've got some program at Clemson. No For instance Clemson has paid thirty eight thousand taxpayer dollars for a diversity course that explains that if you expect people to show up on time Tucker It's racist okay? Its mandatory diversity course apparently Well, here's the... Yeah. Well when you say a course at Clemson what comes to mind? A course at Clemson? Yeah and what do you think? You think students going into a classroom? Yeah! That's what you'd think yeah this was one of those S training operations for the staff. Ohhhh! You know they have all these every company work for there always have somebody coming in some expert you know either from spring... Oh let me tell you let me tell you

2:06:05 I had this, i'm sorry im lowering the desk for a moment. Down Periscope at MTV! At MTV they did this The VJ's had to- we have an acting coach to come in and help you with your performance Just imagine Adam Curry and downtown Julie Brown sitting with some loser no name couldn't get a gig actor teaching us how to act as VJ's Yes, corporations do stupid stuff like this. They have a lot of these courses I took...I've taken probably three of them. I took one at the air pollution district and I've taken one someplace else and there's another...I know it may be at InfoWorld or something whatever they're these guys who come in they are very expensive $30,000 in taxpayers money is what she said to do a whole to do the entire university staff so pretty borderline voluntary courses 30 grand is cheap

2:06:56 But what the courses are, they're like the Earhart seminars. It's these trainings where the guys... it's a training course where they train you to think and how to act and it's just- And they would come up with something that's about the timeliness thing being racist. You could- It may be a positive thing there we're doing saying look if there are probably if you working with Africans for example I took a, when I was at the University of California and did one of my anthropology courses. I had to find an African on campus... African or African American? Africans. And it had a Luo guy, I think he's probably famous now by now. Well, he had a brush with greatness so of course he is famous now! He made the comment that in Africa time is in generalities

2:07:43 Oh, it's kind of afternoon. Always no reason you could never make a one o'clock appointment or anything that Westerners do it says in this at least in his tribe It was just you know You'd make an afternoon appointment and it would be like that was a big like a two-hour range And so I can see where this could develop into this concept that is racist to be on time by the virtue of this training. But it's nonsense anyway, because this whole thing is some training for... In fact let's read there's an article on it. Thompson University's new inclusion awareness course suggests its racist but that's a way they lead

2:08:22 He says, state-funded purchase on...and it's on a lot of his online training curriculum. And it's for the people that work at the campus. It's one of those where it says you're clicking too fast. It's impossible. You read that page please slow down. Yes! Click click click click click So this is what she is saying and what he's saying yeah yeah to which O'Reilly would have never done It's just nonsense, it's bull crap. It's just incite, he says oh blah blah blah let's incite everybody and make everyone look like the world is going to hell in a hand basket. One of those phrases we're working on. So lets play the last part of this and be done with that. For diversity course that explains if you expect people to show up on time Tucker its racist so that

2:09:11 it's a remarkable, now look I just think that means there is going to be fewer liberals on television and radio because that is time certain environment. So you've got people who then expect to go get jobs are you gonna hire the person from the university who has not been involved in this nonsense knows how to show up on time or what are these young people gonna do when they show up in a world that actually has expectations of them so they're being abandoned We're losing an entire generation who understands business and economics, which requires love of the country in the future. And we certainly have lost that. And of course this situation here is a very good example of even trying to eliminate the imagery of a nation that is based on an idea, which is why the flag in itself is so important.

2:09:58 Oh man, oh man. So this is to me exhibit A as to why Tucker Carlson cannot cut it at that 8 o'clock. It's just going to fade because of that stupid look on his face in every shot... Now is he in the new time slot? Is this the same show? Yes! As far I know its the same show Why would they change it No, they shouldn't change it at all. He's kicking ass he moved up but the problem is it's gonna wear thin and he doesn't have all the crazy you know O'Reilly had his little speech in the beginning and then he had a bunch of segments It was very well structured You couldn't get really bored with this show because by the time he just about to get bored boom! He's on something else Carlson got through...He's one trick pony I think that ratings are going start to fade and fade and fade They're gonna get rid him too And you know what?

2:10:53 But is he on the target list? No, not no. I don't know he might become will be he will he's because of the way enough people right what he does will put him on the target list yes i concur but what he does is not It's not gonna... it's like the parlor trick of talk shows. Yeah, but you get a clip from it I get a clip from his fun He sees a funny guy to watch when he gets the right guess that he can eviscerate But you know some of them don't play along with the program What's Dennis Miller gonna do? I don't know what Dennis Miller is gonna Do he doesn't sign in on Grada. He won't get on any Fox show now. No, he does a podcast though

2:11:40 Yeah, but his podcast is way ahead of the curve. His podcasts it's only it's not that good No all right we have part three That was part three no no I have a part three that was not part 3 that Was part oh you have part 3 or 3 if you allow generations? Of kids to grow up in an education system that teaches them the country they live in is immoral Oh well You had three clips and I played one two And maybe that was on too No, you played two before. Okay fine this is three You gave me the clip of the day on part two Right but this is part three Yeah you just played it 2 seconds ago That was the end of part two Okay well play it again Well let me play the end of Part Two and you can hear it The End of Part Two is clipped onto the beginning of Part Three

2:12:34 Yes, thank you. This is what you get, isn't it? Well it is and yet Americans tend to not raise children like that. This is what's fascinating Is that its either a choice of individuals going to public schools where this kind of mob mentality prevails versus private schools And in another instance Clemson has paid 38 thousand I don't understand why you had this twice then...I'm sorry just not understanding

2:13:12 You played this clip before. No, you've played the whole thing the series is over Okay I didn't play this, i did not play it that's all on clip 2 Clip 3 is just a repeat It doesn't matter its confusing Doesn't matter okay The point was made Its okay I'm trying to keep you from playing but okay Yeah we're doing it control room douchebag Alright lets go to a positive story That doesn't fit with the hate show CBS, whoever's running it, their stories the way they slant their stories even though this is the 420 day. If you're on 420 there today we did the show in four twenty yeah this is the play they played the story the way they played the pot day

CHAPTER 29 / 41 Discussion

4/20 Marijuana Day, Federal Crackdown Fears and THC Health Studies

On April 20th, CBS News reported on the growing support for marijuana legalization despite threats of a federal crackdown from Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly. A University of Sydney study suggests that THC can stay in fat cells for months and may actually aid in weight loss when combined with exercise. The hosts discuss the "runner's high" and the different effects of Sativa and Indica strains.

4/20· marijuana· john kelly· colorado· thc· university of sydney

2:14:07 Today is 4-20 and for some it's National Marijuana Day. A new CBS News poll shows support for legalizing pot has never been higher, 61%, up five points from just a year ago. 29 states allow medical marijuana while pot is legal for recreational use in eight states plus DC. Barry Peterson reports they may be headed for a clash with the federal government They lit up in DC and San Francisco, rocked in Denver. But at this year's 420 celebrations anxiety is also in the air after statements from the Trump administration Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly recently warned of a possible crackdown and states that have legalized pot its use and possession Is against federal law and until the moment

2:14:59 law is changed by the United States Congress, we in DHS along with the rest of the federal government are sworn to uphold all laws that are on the books. John Hickenlooper is governor of Colorado, the first state where legal recreational marijuana went on sale in 2014 Do you think you or other states will go to court and fight this? Well certainly explore every option communicate and collaborate and not make a snap decision. In Colorado, medical and recreational marijuana are now 1.3 billion dollar industry shutting it down says the governor will drive people to the dangerous black market there's just gonna be a vacuum to fill that's all going to cash in guns drug dealers don't care who they sell it too also concerns that not enough studies have been conducted

2:15:48 Ah, bullcrap! Especially on unborn babies or teenagers whose brains are still developing. And hot shot bonus... Teenagers can't buy it legally. What's that? Teenagers can't buy it legally. You can't go into a pot shop if you're a teenager. Pot's effect, especially on unborn babies or teenagers whose brains are still developing and pot shop owner Sally Vanderveer of Medicine Man worries a crackdown would put thousands in this industry out of work These are good jobs these are full-time jobs? These are full time jobs we uh our average salary is probably about $35 000 dollars a year these are people paying taxes

2:16:27 As you can see, and you will occasionally hear Scott the party is still going on in Denver. Now our poll shows 71% of Americans oppose any federal action and states that have already legalized marijuana That said here in Colorado people in the pop business are hastily drawing up contingency plans just in case. Barry Peterson and we'll be right back okay now Hickenlooper is an anti-pot guy so that was the wrong state to do this story they've done the story before they do these pro pot, their kind of pro pot stories and when I did the one in Washington State

2:17:07 I think it was the Attorney General said, you think the feds are going to come in here? Bring it on. He wanted- Of course of course and which is what you're supposed to say because then they won't. We'll fire at you! Yes so this is gonna come to a head and its gonna happen pretty soon but... What's not being reported when I think this is just a slam at Trump by the way. Oh hello that's what all is and we're The Hate Show With not being reported, Danny the drug dealer... he moved to California. I've told you this. And he says it is like, it's the wild west. He says there are gunfights, there are entire gangs who come in... This is all happening in the woods! This is all up in the woods where they're huge pot farms and they got gangs coming in rousting the crop of poisoning other people's crops. It's the Wild West and everyone's armed and firing

2:18:07 Yeah, that's kind of the drawback. But that was going on before the legalization is just getting worse. Yeah. Well in Washington state... They don't have the same problems. What they've done is they have, they've licensed certain people to grow and it's not that difficult to get a license and then most of the pot farms that grow in Washington state are in giant well-protected greenhouses. And there's a couple of them you can drive by on where I live, you can drive by em. You see what the hell was all that? It's like in a compound. And it's in the open, not in the woods hidden in the woods like they do in California where they could because they were doing for so long and they were growing this stuff secretly and that's where you get the problem these are all right off the highway and there is nothing like that going on up there I know of Report just came out from researchers at University of Sydney found out THC The magic genie I'm reading verbatim gives cannabis its oomph

2:19:11 is quickly transferred from the bloodstream to fat cells where it can chill for months, supposed as you work your way through every season of Game of Thrones. But what turns out THC in your blood substantially rises which helps people with exercise." Oh that's interesting. Study finds that the runners high is a real thing! The key apparently to mixing training and cannabis is to find the right ratio of CBD compound to THC. Somewhere around 5-2 is supposed to be perfect, lowers the stress level so you can focus better on your distance and speed goals. Sativa strains are best for energy shots I agree while indica varieties are motivation killers absolutely true! So if you know how to mix them

2:20:03 And which is what all of this is, this is all GMO work really. You know it's organic but still genetically modifying stuff so it can actually help your physical performance. This would explain why certain athletes are always you know they get drug tests because they use I've always thought, that's an interesting thing you read. I have always thought this was like why would a professional athlete get stoned on any of this stuff because it is going to make him groggy and dumb? And how would it possibly improve their performance but I guess it might! And it gets better science is effectively saying that cannabis can help your weight loss as long as you follow up with exercise and good food choices

2:20:51 This is, that sounds like a gratuitous thing to just drop in at the end. No it's in the middle I skipped over it here's how the THC and your blood substantially rises a bad thing if you're interviewing for a job where drug test requires drugs drug test requires a sample but a good thing if you're trying to lose a few kilos as it means this fat is being used as fuel so you create fat by smoking and check this out oh my god They suggest smoking a joint and then taking a moderate 35-minute session on a stationary bike. Oh! That's exactly what you've been doing. Spin class, no wonder I'm so healthy! Alright that's it. That is your drug tip moment on the No Agenda Show. I'm gonna show my support by donating to NOAGENDA Imagine all the people who could do that... Oh yeah that'd be fab.

CHAPTER 30 / 41 Discussion

Popmoney Transfers, Credit Unions and Final Well-Wishers

The hosts discuss "Popmoney," a bank-integrated transfer service used by many credit unions as an alternative to PayPal or wire transfers. They read through a final list of producers who donated amounts under $50, including birthday wishes for listeners. They emphasize the efficiency of Popmoney for audience-supported media.

popmoney· credit unions· paypal· donations· well-wishers

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2:22:48 It's on Federation paper, which means it has to be read because there is a note from the United Federation of Planets. Starfleet Command and exactly why Starfleet Command is trademarked is beyond me. Deercrack Potkill, outstanding shows of late I especially appreciate your joint efforts to clear away the piles of bullshit from both sides of the political universe exposing the bilateral douchebaggery Sir Donald of the Fire Bottles, Baron of Spokane County. A WA-6OMI. 7 3's Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie Actually set up my ham gear yesterday and I did like a couple PSK 31s and then my power supply blew up What? Yeah... I've never seen that happen. I got a huge power supply 35 amp

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2:26:06 Geisler in Watkinsville, Georgia. Anonymous Daniel Laboe in Bath Michigan Jason Daniels in parts unknown and Kirsten, Kirsten Gleb she comes through once a month on pop money Pop money. Like a lot of people come in through pop money and we should revisit that mechanism because credit unions, and a lot of banks use it instead of wire transfers. It's cheaper- Isn't it free? Yeah, it's free! That's a lot cheaper. That's a lot cheaper because the wire transfer is 10 to 20 bucks but at pop money if your bank or all credit unions use it from what I can tell And just this confusion, it's Papa Oscar Papa not Papa Oscar tango

2:26:57 People think it's pot money. Well, it could be pot money but... Send your pop money with pop money! It's like popping the microphone money and it seems to work I was skeptical at first because these companies you know looks like some way of moving money around like PayPal trying to compete with PayPal which is what they look like yeah but I realized that they did these deals with the banks that PayPal could have done Yeah Deals with the banks and credit unions was genius so I think its a viable startup I like it. Anyway, that's our group of well-wishers and producers for show 923. And we thank everybody especially those who came in under $50 as typically for reasons of anonymity but also a lot of people on the subscriptions i know a lot of you came in with

2:27:41 Uh, wouldn't we have a special number John? Yeah. $4 and 22 cents. There you go. And some people came in with that. That's highly appreciated all of it helps this is your pro here's your podcast it's your show You're the producers so you help out many ways and we appreciate what you've done for us once again today and of course will be back Thursday with another program Devorak dot org slash N A For those who need it jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma It's your birthday, birthday. I don't know what you're thinking. Very short list today Daniel Lynn celebrated on the... well he celebrates today happy birthday Daniel Keith Carlisle's happy birthday to Diana Crothers of Tumwater Washington she celebrated on April 17 so that's a belated birthday Happy Birthday from everybody here at The Best Podcast in the Universe!

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Baron of Svalbard, Sir Tom Donjereux and Peerage Updates

Sir Baz Von Batteau is named the Baron of Svalbard after claiming the archipelago for the No Agenda nation. Tom Donjereux is knighted as "Sir Tom Donjereux, Knight of the Men with Hill" for a $1,000 donation. The segment includes a "money shot" jingle featuring a clip of Alex Jones.

svalbard· knighting· peerage· money shot· alex jones

2:28:45 Hey, what? Oh here we go. That's right we got a couple of title changes today on the show Sir Baz Von Batteau becomes Sir Baz Baron of Svalbard and that will of course be updated on the peerage map Todd Brink sir macaroni au fromage will be the baron I think of Wisconsin and Anonymous becomes knights of the wiki congratulations to all of you and of course those reflections should be updated at itm.im slash peerage, that's where we track everything in case of Armageddon then at least will know who is running what portion of the world when it come when we reboot. Yes I do have a note from Baron Von Batteau who did send a thing into the email It was some place last November quietly claimed this fall board archipelago in name of no agenda which is cool

2:29:37 He was in Longyearbyen, someplace I guess in the Scandinavian Nordic area. And he claimed some land for us therefore like to assume this protectorate and so that's why he's this sort of Baron of Svalbard. He says you guys do a great job by really enjoy the show please please please keep your current affairs deconstruction going truly yours is the best podcast in the universe and he wanted a Manning money shot This is what he didn't get credit for in his last show, $333.33. I've actually put him on today's as an executive producer but he wants a month... He does have a request for stuff which we have to do. Okay let's do it! Money shot of 4x Boom Shakalaka if you still have that one Adam? I don't know what he's talking about and any random seed guy clip Karma

2:30:30 Yeah, hold on a second. He sent me that yes now I remember hold on a second. I have it here somewhere Yeah, he has he send it to me so you just kind of threw this at me So now I have to find sorry no. It's okay. It's okay um I know what's in here somewhere under jingles hmm That's odd well. I do have I have I lost the money shot why had no I haven't oh No, I would never lose the money shot Okay, I think I had that what was that? What was after the bingo boom shakalaka

2:31:07 It was the money shot boom shakalaka, and then the seed guy karma. Seed guy karma? Yeah anything from The seed guy oh Okay I got you all right and this will have to do this one then here we go That's a shown up money shot Jesus, look at that. That's a money shot! Kenan Conway in the money shot! Dingo boom boom chackalacka boom boom boom boom I don't like them putting chemicals in the water that turn the friggin frogs gay You've got karma

2:31:49 Oh man, that Manning. He's the money shot! That's the funny part about it he is a money shot. Greetings John Adam unless my crappy accountant sees me I believe my last donation brings me to knighthood please could i be known from this day forward as Sir Tom Dangerou Knight of The Men With Hill in recognition of our local GCHQ NSA listening station John please be careful with the blade that's mine hold on okay here comes That means Mark Hudson, you need to step up here to the podium. You sir are about to become an inductee here at the Knights of the Noah Agenda... At the table of the Noah Agenda knights and dames And of course that is for your contribution in amount of $1,000 or more So therefore I'm very proud to pronounce the K-the Sir Tom Donjereux Knights Of The Men With Hill For you my friend we have the obligatory hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay brisket and brown ale

2:32:42 and of course mutton and mead. And all of that is waiting for you at noagendanation.com slash rings Eric the show will gladly send all of that to you including the ring Just don't just only tweet a picture of the ring, none of all that other stuff. Maybe the mutton and meat if you want to. And thank you! Thank you very very much. Now tonight is the White House Correspondents Dinner The President will not be attending in fact he's doing some counter-programming He'll be doing a big speech in I think Pennsylvania? Right So I will definitely be watching C-SPAN This is gonna be great Well here's the deal so what do you do let's say your at this thing

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White House Correspondents' Dinner, Hasan Minhaj and Donald Trump

Donald Trump will skip the White House Correspondents' Dinner to hold a rally in Pennsylvania. Comedian Hasan Minhaj of The Daily Show is set to perform at the event. The hosts speculate on the difficulty of performing comedy for a media audience when the primary target of the jokes is not in the room.

white house correspondents' dinner· hasan minhaj· donald trump· c-span· daily show

2:31:49 Oh man, that Manning. He's the money shot! That's the funny part about it he is a money shot. Greetings John Adam unless my crappy accountant sees me I believe my last donation brings me to knighthood please could i be known from this day forward as Sir Tom Dangerou Knight of The Men With Hill in recognition of our local GCHQ NSA listening station John please be careful with the blade that's mine hold on okay here comes That means Mark Hudson, you need to step up here to the podium. You sir are about to become an inductee here at the Knights of the Noah Agenda... At the table of the Noah Agenda knights and dames And of course that is for your contribution in amount of $1,000 or more So therefore I'm very proud to pronounce the K-the Sir Tom Donjereux Knights Of The Men With Hill For you my friend we have the obligatory hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay brisket and brown ale

2:32:42 and of course mutton and mead. And all of that is waiting for you at noagendanation.com slash rings Eric the show will gladly send all of that to you including the ring Just don't just only tweet a picture of the ring, none of all that other stuff. Maybe the mutton and meat if you want to. And thank you! Thank you very very much. Now tonight is the White House Correspondents Dinner The President will not be attending in fact he's doing some counter-programming He'll be doing a big speech in I think Pennsylvania? Right So I will definitely be watching C-SPAN This is gonna be great Well here's the deal so what do you do let's say your at this thing

2:33:43 And you're invited to be one of the speakers. Or THE speaker, THE comedian? Well, THE comedian can do whatever... I mean they've done a lot in it- Who is THE comedian this year? I don't know! I don't have a clue. Oh, I'll check it out keep going. But what if you want to, y'know, a correspondent and you go up there and say something and your actually member of the media that gets into the White House to ask questions and without the president being there he starts slamming the guy You're gonna get kicked off the rolls. This is a risky situation for people I mean, what's the comedian going to do? He's got guys not in the audience A comedian likes to address somebody directly if they're gonna insult them usually you don't insult somebody Right right right It works much better I think he's gonna be this huge dud Yeah that's why i want to watch Hassane Minhaj Is going to be the comedian And he is senior correspondent at The Daily Show Let me guess...He's an Arab

2:34:42 Oh no, Indian. Indian-American and Muslim! Oh it's gonna be great that's gonna be great i can't wait Hassan...I think I know who that is at least moderately funny yeah well let's see how he does why don't they just have the daily show guy do it Noah? Yeah I think didn't you already do it one year oh I don't know I don't keep track Hey uh the French election from what I understand yeah how we doing okay as the results are coming in now John um here we're waiting for official results Macron 23.7% Marine Le Pen 21.7 so they both continue So those two will be the ones that go off at it at the end Yeah, but look Macron's gonna win yeah But he's also a complete he at least comes across as a complete outsider

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French Election Results, Emmanuel Macron vs. Marine Le Pen

Early results from the French presidential election show Emmanuel Macron and Marine Le Pen moving to the second round. Macron is positioned as a moderate "On The Move" candidate, while Le Pen represents the far right. The hosts discuss the media's portrayal of the candidates and the influence of youth voters in France.

france· emmanuel macron· marine le pen· election· deutsche welle

2:35:30 Yeah, right. That's a good one. I have boots on the ground report one moment Richard Ewing boots on the ground voting close 15 minutes. Macron set to be into the second round but too close to call for second candidate now i think that this is an older message well let's listen to a report on Macron backgrounder from Deutsche Welle on Macron so people know who we're talking about okay OK, here we go. According to opinion polls the current frontrunner is Emmanuel Macron who abandoned the socialists and set up his own independent party called On The Move to attract those who yearn for a moderate middle ground candidate. The main contestants of this election are either the far right or the far left I think it's not what we want in France We don't want racists

2:36:16 Okay, this will be great. Yeah, sounds like a winning plan. He's a good looking guy and he looks like you know it seems personable people like him and he's not a racist race I mean when you heard that girl come on she's I don't want to racists or communists I mean the gandit harkens back to the little clip we played with 11 year old who is suing the government she got all these preconceived notions about everything including a little Trump hate at it just more you know hey they've taken them do the kids are now under our control

2:37:16 They're gonna think the way we want them to think and then we'll use that for our advantage, uh...to our advantage. And that's what's going on. Yes! We even have the French kids come here for your macaroni au fromage children So that's the guy If you're living in New Jersey there is an exercise underway right now With Department of Homeland Security and this is an FEMA region to response, you know We're cut up into FEMA regions in the United States of Gitmo Nation. I'm here in six New Jersey's in Region 2 This is Gotham Shield 17 GS-17 it is on going as we speak today And then I mentioned these things because so often It happens that some kind of exercise took place and then the real thing takes place the next day right

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Gotham Shield 17, FEMA Nuclear Detonation Exercise

A major emergency response exercise titled "Gotham Shield 17" is taking place in FEMA Region 2, covering New Jersey and New York. The simulation evaluates the response to an improvised nuclear device detonation. The hosts list various code names for related military and government drills, such as "Vital Archer" and "Vibrant Response."

gotham shield 17· fema· nuclear exercise· homeland security· new jersey

2:38:08 The purpose of Gotham Shield 17 is to evaluate the whole community effort to prevent, protect from, respond to and plan initial recovery after the effects of an improvised nuclear device using established exercises to achieve objectives in relevant mission areas and capabilities. Gotham Shield 17 will assess regional and national incident management and incident support capabilities to include pre-and post nuclear device detonation and recovery. Sounds great! Oh brother, it doesn't sound good. So as a part of this we have some cool code names I just...I'll just give those to you. Vital Archer

2:38:51 which is the Department of Defense exercise aligned to counterterrorism response, including weapons of mass destruction outside the continuous contiguous United States. Vibrant Response is the U.S. Northern Commands US North Com field training exercise for chemical biological radiological nuclear high yield explosive consequence management forces. Wow! That's a title. Fuerzas Amigas? It's if something happens in Mexico Prominent Hunt. That's a good one. Domestic Nuclear Detection Office, National Technical Nuclear Forensics Ground Collection Task Force. We pay for all this? Yeah! And Staunch Maple. Hey, Canada. Staunch maple. It's true. I think you guys are staunch maple man. Hey, I watched just a little bit of the overtime with Bill Maher

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Arwa Damon, CNN Journalist Intoxication Lawsuit

CNN journalist Arwa Damon is facing a lawsuit in New York for allegedly biting two EMTs while intoxicated. The plaintiffs claim Damon threatened them by citing her status as a major reporter. The hosts play a clip of Damon on Bill Maher's show discussing the "responsibility" of journalists to fight for humanitarian principles, contrasting it with her alleged behavior.

arwa damon· cnn· lawsuit· intoxication· emts· bill maher

2:39:47 Yeah, he went on a rant. Yeah which was showed up all over the place I thought it was pretty decent yeah, I didn't want to play that rant I wanted to play something from our what Damon just to show you she's a journalist and I will remind you what we know about her after I played this clip from Bill Maher show She's a journalist. I think she would she see and I think she seen in She's always, yes you'll remember her in a moment. She is always overseas now what is the job of a journalist? To report on events So it's not to fight for justice

2:40:27 No, never to fight for justice. You're supposed to be neutral. Are you sure? That's not a journalist that's an advocate! You don't know what you're talking about she is very big cheese there she's huge journalist it's her job... Big Cheese is another one for the list. For the phrase for each day. I'm still loading up on this people subject line is word. How do you combat conflict fatigue and apathy among Americans for humanitarian disasters abroad That's something that we struggle with every single day and I think that is one of our main responsibilities as journalists. We have to keep going out there trying to figure out new and different ways to present a story, we cannot allow a sense of futility to silence us or stop us and frankly for us

2:41:09 Combat fatigue is not a luxury that we have. We cannot stop, we cannot stop fighting for these basic humanitarian principles for children that are dying, for people that are starving because if we stopped fighting for that then what kind of world do we live in? I don't know! I mean i'm so happy you're in the world Awa Oh my god, what would I do without you? Oh yes! I remember you. Now she was on assignment and apparently she hadn't eaten much but she had a few drinks and so she became unruly while she became unruly she allegedly bit two individuals who have filed the lawsuit against her now according to the lawsuit that has been filed in New York State Supreme Court

2:41:47 Damon has a quote, history of becoming intoxicated and abusive. And just to give you more-a better sense of what the plaintiffs are claiming Charles Simons and Tracy Lamar EMTs who were working for private contractor alleged in a suit that they were providing assistance to an intoxicated Damon when she bit and threatened them while saying that she was quote, quote, a major reporter for CNN. Also, the attorney says that she was biting them both pretty furiously. She has good teeth eventually they subdued her Remember that I got even though it's after the fact is a different kind of around you get a clip of the day for That no thank And it was can anybody it was a combination of the two clips and make make your work at work yes Isn't that amazing? Yeah yeah, I love our archive It's gotten pretty good

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North Korea Australia Threat, Jeff Sessions and Hawaii Judge

North Korea has reportedly threatened Australia with a nuclear strike, which the hosts dismiss as unlikely. Meanwhile, Attorney General Jeff Sessions faced criticism for questioning how a "judge sitting on an island in the Pacific" could block the president's travel ban. Hawaii senators accused Sessions of using "dog whistle politics" and racism in his remarks.

north korea· australia· jeff sessions· hawaii· travel ban· brian schatz

2:42:44 I want to remind everybody that the Australia New Zealand tour is on. We have a MagaTour.com, of course we're also going to New Zealand but that's what Dame Angela Castaneda set up M-A-U-G-A Tour dot com, Maga Tour This is where you can sign up Let us know because she's putting it together now the trip is being put together and this morning The keeper said oh man Now look at this North Korea's threatened to hit Australia with a nuclear strike. I said this is exactly the time to go! This is exactly the time to go, we need to get...this is perfect-I want to go to France, I want to go to Paris! We were right there. That already proved that point and it gets to any smart traveler would know. Can I make a prediction? Even though The Red Book is kind of full of predictions

2:43:42 They're not gonna bomb Australia with a nuke. Oh man, you better put that in the Red Book for sure. Yeah! You might be right. And I have a couple of clips left here more than if you actually But we can start with Jeff Sessions as a racist. Hey, we weren't saying that I know he went but this woman okay? Here's the end she says it and I said holy crap She said racists is a CBS reporter, and she's an adult. She's an adult grown-up woman She's an adult grown up woman but when I took then after I'd clipped in I taken the end and I have what I had to

2:44:19 Fiddle with it. I could just barely she did have the tea in there So and but sounds like she said it and Margaret also today The president's attorney general Jeff Sessions raised some eyebrows with what appeared to be criticism of the judicial branch Yes, well the second version of the president's travel ban on six Muslim majority countries is being held up by a federal court judge in Hawaii. And in a radio interview recorded on Tuesday Attorney General Jeff Sessions seemed to raise some questions about the judge and the state of Hawaii I really am amazed that

2:44:57 A judge sitting on an island in the Pacific can issue an order that stops a President of the United States from what appears to be clearly his statutory and constitutional powers. Now, Hawaii's senators who are both Democrats pounced on those remarks in a series of tweets I'll read you some of them pointing out Senator Brian Schatz that Sessions actually voted in the Senate the judge in question here. And the other senator from Hawaii, Maisie Hirono accused Jeff Sessions of what she said was dog whistle politics Scott that's another way of suggesting he's being racist still 50 stars in the flag. Racist but she has the whole demeanor so why not?

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The Terror Put, Dortmund Bus Bombing and Market Manipulation

A suspect in the bombing of the Borussia Dortmund team bus allegedly placed "put calls" on the team's stock, hoping to net $1 million from the resulting price drop. The hosts refer to this as a "terror put," drawing parallels to suspicious market activity observed before the September 11 attacks. The suspect's mistake was buying a large volume of options on the day of the attack.

terror put· dortmund· bombing· put options· stock market· 9/11

2:45:47 Unbelievable. Congratulations to you, John. Congratulations. Thank you for what? You came up with a new category the terror put. The terror put? Yeah the terror put. You asserted both on Dvorak Horowitz unplugged and I brought it up here That it would be nuts for someone to not, not to be in cahoots with North Korea. To put a put call and just explain briefly as like a, it's like shorting of stock only it's much cheaper to do you put in leverage? Yeah. You put in a put call so your exposure maybe I'll just say could be $1,000. You could make 10 but your exposures 1000 the put calls you expect stock to go down well wouldn't you know

2:46:30 The terrorist, who allegedly bombed right near Germany's bus, the Dortmunder team's bus. Had placed a put call which should have netted him a cool million dollars for the teams actual stock price dropping I didn't know they were public team and so he said yeah that was his motivation This is fantastic! I mean, they learned it from 9-11 of course because there were all these put calls on the airlines. Oh tons of put calls on the airlines! Very odd hadn't happened before you know just the day before. Nobody busted... This guy well this character You know why? Because in World Trade 7 is and yeah and all the records were there Yeah now uh this guy his mistake was he did it the day of his bombing oh that's so stupid

2:47:26 And he didn't buy one, he bought a whole bunch out of the blue. Yeah tens and thousands of dollars worth of clothes. He was in the same hotel as the team so... So he was an idiot. But to put yeah, the terror put I'll use that this is good term. Thank you Now let's go, let's try this little clip. Oh by the way Ann Coulter is a new update there's a new update She's actually gonna speak at Berkeley now Today the University of California at Berkeley reversed its decision to cancel a speech by conservative commentator and Coulter because they need the controversy they're going to love it there's gonna be a huge event beautiful over security concerns they're now offering and make update at a more secure venue John Blackstone is following this on the Berkeley campus opposition to Ann Coulter appearance adds to a growing impression

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Ann Coulter Berkeley Speech, Hillary's Hit List and Media Ousters

The University of California, Berkeley reversed its decision to cancel a speech by Ann Coulter, though security concerns remain high. The hosts discuss a "hit list" of individuals they believe are being targeted for removal from public life by Clinton-aligned interests. This list includes Sean Hannity, Trey Gowdy, and Jason Chaffetz.

ann coulter· berkeley· free speech· hillary clinton· trey gowdy· jason chaffetz

2:48:15 that conservative opinions are not welcome at many of the nation's public universities. I was the one who personally invited Ann Coulter. Naweed Tamas is spokesman for the Berkeley College Republicans These students are trying to create a liberal echo chamber on campus where one viewpoint is allowed and any other viewpoint is attacked and harassed Violence erupted on the Berkeley campus in February when outspoken conservative Milo Yiannopoulos was scheduled to appear He was rushed from the building for what campus police said, his own safety Berkeley officials worry the same thing could happen to Ann Coulter. Berkeley Chancellor Nicholas Dirks Our police department has made it clear that they have very specific intelligence regarding threats that could pose a grave danger to the speaker

2:48:57 attendees, and those who may wish to lawfully protest this event. Demonstrations against conservative speakers have turned violent on campuses from NYU to the University of Washington in Seattle where one man was shot in a clash between protesters Berkeley officials blame recent violence there on what they call the black block. Not students, but outsiders who come to campus bent on destruction. Clad in black wearing masks highly organized rather disciplined armed not with firearms but armed with a number of weapons Berkeley, of course has a long history of protest. The free speech movement in the 1960s was born at this campus gate Today Scott, school officials had to answer to conservatives whether the only free speech welcome here is from the left John Blackstone our man on campus John thank you

2:49:51 The free speech movement was not done at that gate. He's talking about Sather Gate, which is right there where leading to most of the buildings are. He's wrong! I understood Coulter was on Tucker Show. This is like five days later at a different venue It is my understanding she's going on the day agreed to at the original venue this gonna be a shitstorm. I think you're gonna kill her Redbook This is one of those things where we're, you know this getting... It's time for someone to die. I think you're right it's in that curve. Or shoot at her at least. At least Your prediction earlier when you brought the Hannity thing up as another target your-I think it might be right this is all part of Hillary's get back and everybody she can Yep And Coulter wrote this in Trump We Trust or some crazy book before the election Well let's make a list then Let's make a list Let's make a quick list The last thing we could do today

2:50:47 Hit list. A hit list, so I'll write it down. Hillary's hit list we'll call it. Hillary's hit list okay? Okay Alright I think Tucker would be on there but low on the list high on the list would be Hannity he'd be number one So we got him yeah They still will go after Limbaugh No I don't think so no I think Limbaugh is impervious He's off the list he's off the list I would keep him off It's not just media people there are other people who need to die Well or get eliminated from their jobs. They don't did well Ronnie didn't die now I died yet, you know what? So they already got Milo they got Alex Jones they got Did they really get Alex Jones? I don't know maybe You know I Jones is an outlier about Gowdy maybe betray Gowdy Oh

2:51:39 Trey Gowdy definitely. Definitely, he's the one who led up to Benghazi investigated He's gotta go. Supposedly there are all these rumors about these two assistants that have disappeared but there is no evidence of it. Gowdy I think is retiring, is he not? Suddenly. Is he? Yeah suddenly they must have something on him or more he knows Maybe Comey of course, he's up the back. Oh Comey's done. Shaffetz Jeff Sessions for sure Shaffetz, Sessions yeah, Sessions... Yeah, Shaffetz has already announced his retirement So he's, they got him. Media people is what I'm thinking of. Well the three obviously but i think that you can't hurt them Ted Nugent, Sarah Palin... No not Ted Nugent is seen as a lunatic yeah and Kid Rock nah lunatic rock guys don't care okay The War Room is not very helpful Assange oh yes Assange Assange and Snowden both so it's something but here okay this is my last one

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Julian Assange Prosecution, Wikileaks and First Amendment Rights

The Justice Department under Jeff Sessions is reportedly considering charges against Julian Assange. Glenn Greenwald argues that prosecuting WikiLeaks for collaborating with sources would set a dangerous precedent for all investigative journalism. The hosts debate whether Assange, an Australian citizen, is protected by the First Amendment or can be considered a traitor to the U.S.

julian assange· wikileaks· jeff sessions· glenn greenwald· first amendment· classified information

2:52:40 And this plays into our licensing. By the way, I'm sending Bill O'Reilly a podcast license. You can't just go on the air without an official podcast license. Podcastlicense.com So the rumor or I don't know if it's a rumor but the word is Sessions is going after Assange, going after Wikileaks We're going to go get him. He's a traitor, we got to get this guy even though he is not American but you've gotta go get this guy." Hold on a second so I'm listening the Michael Savage show the other day just driving around and there are all these different things and he brings up this topic it says Is Assange a hero or a traitor? And I immediately think to myself how can...the guy is not in American How could he possibly be a traitor? A traitor to what

2:53:29 And it's covered by the First Amendment. To justice! He is not covered by the First Amendment, how is he covered by the First Amendment? He's not an American. He's Australian living in Selva in Ecuadorian embassy How can you even arrest him?! No you can't but Gregg Greenwald don't wrath whose palsy has gone So happy for him rather quickly. I'm really happy for him because man that was not that was not a happy look That was not a good looking. I was not yeah, if some people I don't know it's either the person or the treatment I don't know what it was but he got rid of that really fast most people usually have a hangover and they kind of talk funny No, he's completely symmetrical again so

2:54:13 So, yeah. Great! He understands what's going on I think he is right. Glenn if Julian Assange did more than just publish classified information if he aided and abetted sources who stole classified information which apparently the Justice Department wants to charge him with does that change things in your opinion? First of all, it's a huge if. The Obama Justice Department said that they had searched for evidence that indicated he did that and found none. The most important stories in the last few decades have involved the release of huge amounts of classified information going from the Pentagon Papers through the Manning and WikiLeaks documents, through the Snowden reporting, through a lot of reporting that CNN has done this year on the highest levels of classified briefings. And in all those cases you have reporters talking to sources about how the information—the classified information is going to be obtained, how it's gonna be transmitted and how its gonna be leaked. I think we see from this discussion how easy it is especially with a president who has said the US media is the enemy of the people

2:55:10 If you accept this theory that a media outlet can be prosecuted because they collaborate with their sources, how easy that can then spill over into traditional media outlets and to investigative journalism of the type that we recognize as important and noble. And that is done by journalists and sources every single day. And that's the real danger here. Licensing in your future? Yep! Yeah he's absolutely right there. Well no totally right. He's not a real journalist He's not a journalist. He was a traitor." He is the only hero in all of this, I would say. Yes! I would not argue that point. He is an interesting fellow but he definitely put his ass on the line for what he believes in and I have super respect for that. And I'm happy quite honestly we know all this nut job stuff unlike Gale King who's a sneak... sneak

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Gayle King's Obama Vacation, CBS News Ethics and Charlie Rose

Gayle King defended her decision to vacation on a yacht with the Obamas in Tahiti, stating the trip was not political. Reports suggested that CBS colleagues, including Charlie Rose, were concerned about the appearance of a conflict of interest. The hosts compare this to Sean Hannity's relationship with George W. Bush.

gayle king· barack obama· cbs news· charlie rose· tahiti· journalism ethics

2:56:06 What did Gail's Kings do? Well, let's go to Access Hollywood. Gail's Obama vacation under fire! Welcome to Access Hollywood Did Vacationing on a Yacht with the Obamas get Gail King in hot water with her CBS colleagues As a co-anchor of CBS This Morning, Gail covers the White House But did she step over the line given that President Obama is no longer in power? Well Scott Evans spoke to Gail this morning in New York My vacations are not political. And so I went on vacation with a great group of people and to me that's not a political statement Gail shooting down this morning's page six item that claims some serious journalists including her CBS This Morning co-anchor Charlie Rose have taken issue with Gail vacationing on a yacht with the Obamas in Tahiti. And last time I checked he wasn't in the White House anymore so I went on vacations with friends, that's how I see it Enough said! CBS News adds there is no truth to any of it we love Gale King sounds like sour grapes

2:57:09 Sounds like sour grapes. What that we couldn't hang out with the Obamas is our Charlie roses Hey, man I wanted to hang out with the Obama's no, but I don't think Rose ever gets invited to anything No probably not. I mean unless it's a cocktail party or something, but I'm thinking its any thing like that I mean yeah Hannity does Hannity hangs out with George Bush at the ranch We got nobody bitches about that seems like pretty pretty exclusive company Well I have a... Ten minutes has passed if you want to do one last one. Yeah, I was going to do my last one. I have a bunch of stuff left over. Well i have a longer thing but I just wanted- I might as well just play the ISO. Oh. You tell me who they're talking about. It's unhinged! This is not nice. Trump? No listen to who's saying it. It's unhinged! This is not nice

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Episode 923 Outro, End of Show Mixes and Sign-off

The hosts conclude the episode with a series of "End of Show Mixes" featuring listener-submitted music and clips. They provide a final shout-out to the "Drone Star State" and Silicon Valley before signing off. The episode ends with a jingle about Adam Curry's upcoming tour of Australia and New Zealand.

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2:58:04 Is it? It's unhinged. He is not nice! Is that Chris Matthews the second one no, no as to Hannity? Unhinged he is not nice! Hannity and Gingrich. This a good question this is a good one who are they talking about? Unhinged he is not nice! Political figure yes, it's our new show Wow. You can ask more questions, ask more questions. Okay so male or... it's him so it's male. Political figure? He's not nice. Republican or Democrat must be- He is unhinged he's not nice. Neither! Neither?! Bernie Sanders No. He's unhinged and he's not nice. Ah you just have to tell me I don't know Kim Jong Un? Yum yum. Kim Jong Yum Yum? Yeah Hold on that's a combo hold on Oh man okay here we go

2:59:12 There you go beauty beauteous I think we're on to a new show Guess that celebrity five questions Yeah, maybe not. I like it yeah alright everybody We'll be watching C-SPAN so you don't have two that's the good news and of course we Relish your support at Dvorak.org slash na remember that for our next show coming up on Thursday You'll see more about that in the newsletter And some good some good end of show clips here some different stuff Excited about us about sharing that with you Some some ballads even

3:00:04 I want to shout out Go Warriors. Go Warriors, my brother from another mother that's right. Coming at you from downtown Austin Texas we are the capital of the drone star state and the skyscraper crackpotcon there'll be exact FIBA region 6 on all the government maps in the morning everybody i am Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I remain I'm John C Dvorak We will return on Thursday right here On NO Agenda Till then we always say it adios mofos It was an innocuous tweet, I didn't really think much of it at the time. But then a couple of days later I was fired from my job and the reason left me well beyond surprised Someone had taken what I said wrote a ridiculous op-ed and spread it all over the God-even contact list on Hayward Cliffs She messaged to me this is what she said oh there ain't no rest for the traitor Where is the religious police? You gotta head it's

3:01:27 If you got tears to cry, please give me a sympathy No I won't let it loose! I get my bases like Sullivan Trigger and turn my page to ya Not even 15 minutes later I had come across the crowd who was to protest over something someone said The consignation of a man who's too grumpational explaining what it was he really meant Apparently the crowd was mad that he did other winged costumes than mine that offended some I do anything, a lady lunged right at me She summons the muscle and then began to moan There ain't no rest for the trigger Where is the leadest police? You've got to hit it down with some drive-in No matter who's stuck in my news from place to place No there ain't no rest for the trigger Donate to my Patreon

3:02:46 I'm walking on top, front door but from my blurry thorough vision i can see That a man who dropped his keys in like a gymnast on trapeze I've told them in midair and said to you drop We turned around and viewed disgust And im not even a man Im a bi-gendered girl with many tendencies And ok so police now observing 6th and 10th degree on the hangar Reds for the trigger please You got half tears to cry? It says like so

3:03:26 Millenials on Mastodon, the new social network that we're federated and a part of. I like crazy. In order to say I was victimized? They lie! They lie! Her story does not check out at all I mean, outright lie. Contacting admins to block noagendasocial.com these nights and who could? They lie! The admin of No Agenda Social came over and said that he was going to bring everybody over here to harass me... And nothing! It's a complete fabrication, complete and utter lie! It's a lie.

3:04:20 Big, big news. Alex Jones is in the news everywhere! This is all about Trump Man why is this in the news? Dana Warner's following us Hey hey hey hey, I'm not supposed to be here Blame Alex Jones! Big, big news. We're doing this to Jones, Trump Well Jones, I made this up In Central Texas come and sit The other media said I was lying Jones His business is pleasure Keep doin' it

3:05:04 I'm in a man's world, dude. The other media said I want old lives. Why are they doing this to Joe? He just had an accident. Oh, he was killed by a jack-o'-lantern. You know that sex crime movie with the Irish Cuban Christians who got under the covers for it through the media and coming out tonight gonna exist all except without the sleeping children in the Central Texas Command Center. Swiss cheese. Supposedly, I didn't check my suits. The virus has drawn millions of other Dacron ones? He is supposedly adding chemical suits into Florida Macy's. Oh, that doesn't look good since I asked what he is supposedly adding to his buy my suits. A virus has drawn including Swiss cheese. So I learned you got my suits into Florida Macys. Impressed by Holmes' Swiss cheese. How do I travel

3:06:04 I would always buy my suits. Didn't check it myself. To style the Swiss cheese. Yes, sir! In- in Florida Macy's Of the Dacron ones? Yeah, the Dacrons. Style the Swiss cheese. Yes, sir! He supposedly won a place at San Diego. Stop stop! I think that's one block of it or more... I would always buy my suits. For a block of it. Echoing some of Jones' claims. The Swiss cheese says more. I would always buy my suits. For a block of it. As they say so does her visiting mom. Traveling more I would always buy my suit at the Florida Macy's. Always buy my suit at some of Jones' cleans. It's what she said, uh...at the Florida Macys. Fine if you weren't also wearing one. The whole business here because everyone doesn't see it. It's what she says New York Times. Florida girls always buy my suits and check it myself. I didn't check it myself for the last month yet just to travel more. I would always buy my suits at Jones and that's your reason why you should

3:07:05 Kiwis and Aussies have asked Adam to please come visit us here in the Antipodee. So he's agreed to sojourn to the ends of the earth, New Zealand Australia on a trip with no Perth From the top of NT to Tassie below Queensland, South Australia he'll livestream our show And while Sydney and Melbourne still argue who's best The folks who miss out they all live in the West

3:07:59 Now Adam's our mate, and I'm sure there's a reason. Cos on a podcaster's wage you have to travel off-season And the logistics to traverse Australia's wide girth Is probably why he's not visiting Perth Like a life without bacon, or a pub with no beer And all the sad things I could be listing off here. I wrote this jingle for some laughter and mirth And call Adam Douchebag but not Visiting Perth Call Adam Douchebag but not Visiting Perth

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