2:04:39 I won't be silenced, you know the resistance much resist we much everybody Quick update. I got a number really Oh first of all yes, I errantly said BSD is Linux on the last show. I'm sorry, and I actually wrote down correct that because of course what did you say? I said BSD is limited I said oh yeah Of course I was talking about remember you're saying that I did and and I wrote down shit That's wrong. I gotta say because it's not Linux It's a distribution of Unix Apologies the hate can stop now about the charter schools and school vouchers
2:05:18 I was trying to understand why people don't want, why there's such a movement against the vouchers. Right? You brought that up. Yes and then finally understood what is being proposed or what has continuously been proposed is to have vouchers and to include homeschooling. And this is where the pushback comes from. The homeschoolers...and a voucher is another word for money so you know roughly the way it works is here's this federal money, its for schooling Look kid, you don't like the school where you're going to? You can get a voucher. You can go to a private school different school in the neighborhood of charter school whatever and it's still paid for by the government kind of that's very brief explanation homeschoolers
2:06:00 detest this idea, which is being written into law everywhere. And I've learned now that they've been fighting this for years and years and years is every single voucher program comes with the inclusion of homeschooling and the home schoolers say no we don't want that because the minute you have a law that includes us then you can control us so they do not want any involvement from the government and that is the biggest pushback I didn't realize that. I thought it was some... I'm not convinced of this. Ah, I got a lot of emails about it! As a former homeschooler and somewhat involved in that community, I know what the thinking is It's the basic right-wing... Well are you familiar with the HLSDA? No. Okay well then... Familiarize me with it Yes The HLSDA Advocates for Homeschooling Since 1983 The Homeschooling something defense something
2:07:04 And this apparently is an organization that protects this. Urgent action needed, Congress attempting to give federal government money to homeschools and this pertains particularly to HR 610 And that this seems to be their big issue and I got a lot of emails about it. So, this may not be the issue but that's certainly one... Well, I can understand what they're thinking and this stems from the evangelical right-wing Republican notion that once the government gets in your bed with here some money now you gotta do this what we tell you too which is not true They certainly think so. And you not take the money, how about that? I'm not taking this money, I'm gonna do my own thing. The problem is homeschoolers have a bad reputation not because they don't do a great job and most kids for example who win the spelling bee contest are really smart kids in college they're all home-schooled Abraham Lincoln was home school but there's a bunch of irresponsible home schoolers out there that do something called unschooling
2:08:07 Yeah, I don't like that. Unschooling means you don't do jack! You let them run around and if they want to learn how to read they'll learn how to read If they want to learn math, THEY'LL LEARN MATH Kids of course don't want to learn math or speak They don't wanna play a piano They don't wanna learn anything because you have to make em do some of this stuff So the unschoolers have created a bunch of little monsters that are useless They're unsociable...they've got all kinds of issues and social issues, and they're usually kind of dumb. Aren't you kinda getting off the topic of the vouchers now? Well... I'm gonna swing it back. Watch this. Okay And so seeing this mess The government wants to put some standards in place for homeschooling and they can force the issue with the vouchers They think Like in Washington State for example You have to take your home school kid has to take tests In California they don't
2:09:07 And I think the home schoolers believe that the vouchers are going to force all of them, even though they'll stand up for these unschoolers. They think the government's gonna force everybody that follows a kind of standard government rule and then force a curriculum on the homeschoolers. Can i give you one of their points here from HLSDAs page? They say section 3, page three section 104 requires states to make certain assurances in order to receive their portion of federal education dollars. One other requirements is that states quote make it lawful for parents have an eligible child to elect to homeschool their child
2:09:49 While this sounds good, HSLDA has fought successfully for decades to make sure that there is no quote federal right to homeschool because what could be created by a favorable Congress could be regulated by future hostile Congress. It is far better and more far more constitutionally sound for education decisions and home school freedom to be protected at the state level we ask our friends of the federal over to simply leave home schooling families alone So they do not want a federal right to homeschool. Okay, fine! That's the way it is now? Well but this is language that is being proposed continuously. The language has just said so the states are up to the states doesn't the language say... No no this is I just read you the language from the bill. Oh I thought you said you read it off of their website as their policy. It's there if its their issue with the policy okay read it again
2:10:44 Page 3, section 104 of House Resolution 610 requires states to make certain assurances in order to receive their portion of federal education dollars. States is the word? I heard the word states. Yes, a federal education dollars one of the requirements is that state and here's the quote from the bill, make it states make it lawful for parents have an eligible child to elect to homeschool their child And what they say is that this creates a federal right to homeschool. I'm just telling you- How do you get from here to there? I don't see it! Because it's in the federal bill, I'm just... Don't argue with me! I have no standing. I'll put it this way they're full of crap Okay
2:11:27 John at Dvorak dot org. You can send all the email you want to me not send this give me some documentation that says the feds want to actually take over the homeschooling business it just I don't until i see it this that's not it okay do not send it to me please, I got enough already I think these guys don't want to see, and it's just the opposite. These guys are all in on the idea of a big federal government, big federal department of education otherwise why are they fighting this? It makes no sense there is nothing really against them in there and then get some free cash who doesn't need that? They don't want it. The homeschoolers say they don't want it.