Chain of Lies

00:00 Today the Senate voted to take away my right of notary in pre-existing conditions. Adam Curry, John C. DeVorak. And it's Thursday January 26th 2017 It's your award winning Gimbo Nation Media Assassination Episode 8 and 9 or 8 This is no agenda Investigating all the worlds of matter or anti-matter and broadcasting live from the darkest corners on the internet here in Austin, Tejas. Cap on the drone star state in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where we only deal in anti-matter I am John C. Dvorak It's crackpot and buzzkill In The Morning! I have to warn you right off the bat John although I am on the mend I am heavily medicated for todays program

00:46 Yeah, I finally had to go to the doctor and as you know. I do not have health insurance No, but you can pay cash and do a deal yeah And I want to tell you about that just briefly so I'm on so Last time we spoke you know I still had the cough from congested The cough was getting really bad keep me awake wasn't as bad as it's you sound now Yeah well the car you didn't hear the coughing because I have a cough That is a cough button But no, he's waking me up five times at night just coughing and then my right eye got infected So I'm like the hunchback of Notre Dame. You know, I'm doing the warm composing pus It wasn't oozing puss but it was getting close to oozing puss And of course that the big problem was the cedar not the mold now it's a cedar And so Tina of course the keeper you're like you are going to the doctor okay?

01:44 I have to tell you because I just went to a walk-in clinic here not far from the crackpot condo. It is so empowering when you walk in and say, now I'm self pay. Oh okay well here's our price list and just fill out these four questions instead of the typical You know, sit down answer the thousands of questions I've already answered. Then they're going to take it from the paper and put it into the computer and I can't find your insurance. Oh well, you know, it's a compact. It was so empowering like I want this. I want to take this as this right off the menu boom

02:20 And nice guy, doctor's like well you know it's not really in the lungs. It's in the back of your throat you know we can do this for the eye and I said I want first-class doc! He says okay we're gonna nuke you all right great You know all these things and then listen to this he said well yeah you can also get eyedrops He says, but honestly they really don't work and you're self-pay. So I would say just get the penicillin like wow! So if it's insurance then he says well... If it's insurance based they'll prescribe it even though he says doesn't really work for what I had. Wow yeah no it doesn't. Yeah anyway that was just a really empowering feeling

03:06 You know, I spend $169.00 on the mend instead of $1500 this month with my $5000 deductible so... Feeling quite ahead of the game at the moment! Yeah you should keep a log But the cough is still here Anyway we're good and uh... And the energy is kind of back but it's still... I'm stil under ropes man Well, as long as you have clips. I got clips! I brought my brain. Thank you for the newsletter we definitely need to talk about the alternate universes

03:44 Okay, I know if we want to start off with that or just ease in oh why not well no no No, did you get us started with something John? Just okay. Well let me know we have it We've had this theory about the CIA Yes The only other guy who's had that theory and he's been promoting in a lot more than the last month And they did a thing on Kennedy And I've been wanting to play a couple of these clips of Glenn Greenwald. You know, I have this clip because when i heard him speak and like oh man yes! Glenn Greenwald don't raff you're on the agency wars now a little add a little addition to this is he has Bell's palsy

04:23 I was gonna say, did he have a stroke or what happened? Because all of the sudden the right side of his face is... Did this just happen? I've never seen that. It just happened like a couple days ago. I tweeted him asking what happened and said it looks like you have Bell's palsy on Kennedy and he confirmed it. I don't think this has been discussed but he confirmed it and said yes And he didn't know how awful he looked until he saw that show. I mean, he even sounds like he's drunk at times because... To me, he sounded normal. He always has this... No, no in the beginning-I don't know if you have the same clip but there was a same length of same pieces as I do But what is Bells Palsy? Does that go away? What happens? What's the deal? Bells palsy is an inflammation on one or both sides usually one side of the face and then there's a specific nerve that gets hit

05:15 And it causes the face to droop. But in his case, it's not drooping, its up! No its not... The upside is the side that works Oh thats normal? Holy crap So the left side is drooping Yes, I feel like yeah the left side is drooping. He has no control over these got no muscle there basically doesn't do anything so you can only Use his right side So he and he ended up and I've seen this I knew a guy had Bell's palsy and I get learned quite a bit about it and uh... so he's got a talk of one side and if it sounds like you slurring is only because of that because i was listening to me is extremely lucid and that's when I realized at bells palsy any didn't have a stroke but always looks like a strong does not know how to do anything either goes away within a couple weeks are usually get therapy for different kinds

06:06 exercises or they there's one that is a big controversy over whether you should electrify the left, the dead side. Oh well I'm all for electrocuting Glenn Greenwald. I mean if that sounds like... Electrifying the left side to get those muscles so they don't atrophy. That's a problem. Well I feel horrible for him. That sucks. All right so shall we listen to him then? Yes, let's listen to him. Yeah, I mean, I think one of the untold stories of the election is that it was really kind

07:03 and these efforts to subvert each candidate and I think even now with Trump in the White House you still see a lot of people in the intelligence community signaling to him that they could harm him if he continues to impede what they think should be the agenda. Yeah, what kind of government is that? That's just weird! And it's truly unacceptable The bastion of political analysis there on Fox News. That's just weird! It's weird

07:46 You know, I caught a hot mic piece on C-SPAN. Yeah! It doesn't happen often with Congressman Adam Schiff who of course he is the ringleader of the Russians hacked the election and after one of these...I don't know exactly after which hearing it was, but you know they're all kind of standing around and they're right near the mic and a former CIA guy walks up to him. Ray McGovern I think I've heard of Ray McGovern. We talk about we have Ray McGovern clips? Oh yeah! Up the butt forever. Now i remember now i remember

08:25 Well, Ray McGovern confronted Congressman Schiff about the Russian hacking and facts or not facts. My name is Ray McGovern. I served in CIA under seven presidents and nine directors so thank you very much You can hear this right? It's...I really worked on the audio. Okay okay I worked on the audio making that We have a little alumni group called Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, and we've been following this issue very closely. One of our members is the former technical director of NSA I'm interested in one week ago when the president said this—I don't want to misquote him—the conclusions of the intelligence community with respect to Russian hacking were not conclusive

09:12 regarding WikiLeaks. In other words, there's a big gap between alleged Russian hacking and WikiLeaks the intelligence community does not know how or if that information to the degree it exists Got to WikiLeaks. Now, you assert as flat fact that Russia did this... Do you know more than Obama? I would never claim to know more than Obama. He's a brilliant man. It is a very serious question. No it is a serious question

09:50 I have every confidence in the intelligence of Russian hacking of both the DNC as well as John Podesta. James Clapper is a convicted pundit? Do you want to hear the answer? Sure, I will. the classified information. I have every confidence that the Russians used WikiLeaks, whether Julian Assange was a knowing participant or as the Russians would describe, useful idiot? That we will hopefully find out but... But i don't have any question in the conclusions of intelligence. You have every confidence but no evidence is that right? No! I can share the evidence with you. Congressman? That's bogus.

10:34 Oh, yeah. No but I have proof! I just can't share it with you and then... It's bogus. Yeah of course it is bogus. Yeah but it's.. And I don't want to get started like this but I have to give a borderline clip of the day. I didn't know this happened oh well thank y'all I will accept that You can start like that Except that it would've been clip of the day if he said Bogative then it would have been awesome A Bogative definitely. Bogative is a clip of the day. Taking over the top What is I heard has been floating around bitching about this Russian? Me Yeah, saying that he says he can't believe that. I wish there was some clips of my you probably end up on democracy now have to keep an eye out yeah But he says he can't believe that the mainstream media is so stupid that they're all in on this He can't believe it really Cyhurst can't believe them and

11:27 Paraphrasing. He's disappointed, let's say. Let's see there was a... Finally the review came back on this issue. Senior law enforcement sources confirmed that Flynn's communications with the Russian government have been examined as part of a broad counterintelligence investigation that began five months ago The Wall Street Journal first reported the investigation which is currently focusing on conversations between Flynn and the Russian ambassador. Now you remember this is Michael Flynn, who was the national security advisor to the president and he had a number of phone calls with Russia And this is where this whole Logan Act thing came from Sergei Kislyak in late December including one conversation on December 29th The same day that President Obama announced sanctions and the expulsion of 35 Russians who the Obama White House said were spies The president's actions were in response to Russian hacking efforts

12:22 the US election. Spicer said he spoke to Flynn last night and there are two phone calls in question, in which he and the ambassador exchanged Christmas greetings, spoke about a peace conference in Syria, and tried to arrange an upcoming post-inauguration call between President Trump and Vladimir Putin. Flynn's contact with the ambassador may have violated The Logan Act which bars U.S citizens from negotiating without authorization with foreign governments that have a dispute with the United States On the other hand, Brett Flynn was the incoming national security advisor and it is his job to discuss national security matters with his foreign counterparts. The review apparently is done although we do not have a written report but according to sources who've reported to multiple outlets they had some apparently recordings of these conversations which makes sense because you know it does involve overseas so they can do that I think legally

13:19 Right. And pretty much what was said, he did talk about a phone call... Well that wasn't negotiating! He didn't negotiate. He could be subject to the Logan Act. He negotiated the meeting. Yeah, he might have negotiated on the time that they had the phone call I mean it could've been anything like that. So do you think we should have it at 3 o'clock or 2 o'clock? Or 1 30? Are you like me John? Oh no! It's violation of the Logan Act. He is negotiating. Are you very tired of watching the news Nah, you know I no. I like watching the news well my everybody out of these yeah My beat has been rough. Oh are you did? You really oh no? No, I'm not gonna throw lay anything down on you now I'm just saying in general it's been rough because it is just non-stop and over and it's the same things

14:09 I didn't get this clip, which irks me. But I'm gonna have to change my clippage routine. Here's how I do it people always wanna know. So I save all the clips on the DVR. I do pull some off the internet but not that many because they need a little more massaging so I pull stuff on the DVR then I transfer it the night before the show to the little recorder so I can move it to the computer And I do that because then when I move it to the computer, then I edit them in the morning. In the morning? In the morning. So what happens is that some clips that I hear earlier in the week that I think have saved you DVRs, I don't know where they're saved and then you get to them.

14:56 I want to make a programming note for our producers. When there's a great clip that you think is really funny, and it's very difficult between the Sunday and Thursday show because here's the situation that happens... You'll say oh! At Adam Curry at The Real Dvorak you gotta look at this clip So we both look at this clip We both know we've seen the clip And then its like well I don't know I'm not going to be able to surprise John with his clip cause he knows it already I would suggest choose one of the two. Don't send everything to both of us, same for email. You don't even do that on email you just send everything in. Yeah and I always answer my email and i'm very responsible so I recommend this if you have a real gem... I gotta tell ya

15:40 Weird things have been happening. Whereas we used to get a lot of grief for being the, uh... What is it? The Trump Protection Podcast I think is what the A-hole's on the... The Trump Protection Podcast! I love that by the way. Yeah, the Trump Protection Podcast Now I'm getting... DPP! ...now I'm getting emails and tweets from people who are pissed that were not protecting Trump It's like, yeah! My favorite And if you ever send me an email that starts off with, I can't believe you didn't dot dot dot You're pissing me off I can't believe. I love that, you know? We talked... I used to like what you had to say! No it was weird it was like um this is regarding Eric Braverman and the George Webb videos which we discussed in some detail a few shows ago and we refer back to it now and you get this, oh I can't believe you haven't done anything about George Webb! I think you're afraid of knock on the door! You know people

16:41 Don't talk to me like that. Rebrief me on George Webb? Oh, this is the guy who was trying to figure out where Eric Braveman, the CEO of The Clinton Foundation went he's married to the guy who was part of KKR doing the weapon sales in Libya No it's really important stuff but it's not like there has been some breakthrough Yeah you liked it He had a very interesting... with the king of Morocco and showing all the connections how it worked You got lost interest okay we didn't lose interest. Um, but this is all of course you know so I guess what I'm saying is we have these alternate universes and I've been working a lot rack in my brain cause there's enough examples. What do we call it? What is it? How do we show it? And I think although I didn't even clip because I'm sure everyone heard Kellyanne Conway talk about alternative facts which was from a PR and uh, a spokeshole perspective stupid thing to say

17:39 I don't think so. You don't think so? No! I think it just gave fuel to the- I mean for, let me take it back For the show, for our show It's fantastic she said it But I don't think she helped the situation that they may or may not feel they're in. Do you disagree? I don't know, I don't think it hurts anything personally. Well... It's almost like a mouse trap. It attracted them and they're just bugs around this one little thing and now you can figure out how to deal with him. Like ants. A little piece of meat on the counter somehow got there from the cutting board and they answered there, and there was a bunch of them.

18:22 Okay, well I certainly have considered that all of this controversy that apparently Trump is fueling continuously about the inauguration about the size of the audience. I've certainly considered he is doing this just to give them the machine some cheese as you would call it and so no one focuses on the other things that he's been doing and has been doing quite a lot of things That's the clip that I lost, which is one of these things was on CNN. Some guy comes on and this guy...that's why I needed this clip if I still may have it on the machine. The guy comes out he says Trump is a xenophobe! This is the worst president ever. He has only been doing stuff for couple days. Worst President Ever and he's lazy.

19:09 And I just, lazy? Where did you get this idea from? Lazy if anything he's like a workaholic or some sort of an obsessed nutcase. But lazy? I don't see that. Let's stick with alternate universes and i've chosen alternate universes. Well don't you think that's what is going to be the example? Yeah of course it is! Of course it is! I'm not veering from the topic. Okay so just briefly on this crowd side because I looked into that Now let me look into the... which believe me is annoying. And what I found was, well actually here's what i was expecting to see. I was expecting to see two photos and two sets of EXIF data that's what I was expecting to see. Okay. I think EXIF data can be manipulated? I'm pretty sure

19:58 That you know anything is possible, but oh yeah sure you can But someone who's in forensics could probably at least say well this may be a copy and for those You don't know modern cameras and certainly back in 2008 when Obama was inaugurated Modern cameras when you take a picture And then you can configure that but press Photographers and photographers who are professional will pretty much always have the exif data intact It'll show you the type of camera, the shutter speed. You know all of these...all the different technical aspects if it has GPS enabled it will give you a location and of course will give you time

20:37 What I found was no example that any of the mainstream media had put out there included this data. In fact, quite a bit worse you just have to take Washington Post's word for it they are the ones that started this...that published it first and they actually have the gall to say well the Obama photo was taken on January 20th 2009 somewhere between 1208 and 1237 So, okay. That by itself kind of disqualifies as a 100% fact because you can't prove when the photo was taken and that obviously is what matters if in this big conversation but ultimately it's one phone call... One phone call to the reconnaissance office and say hey uh what did you guys pick up on Gorgon Stair there? Because they can look down at 10 centimeters accurate! And the satellites are there all the time

21:33 This could be solved very quickly, but it's not going to be. Obviously. Well I'll take a third position on this we have the two alternative universes and we know what they're quibbling over. Uh...I would look at it from a different perspective first of all where are the examples from previous inaugurations? Well how you know interesting say that how about 2012 I wouldn't mind see the second time Obama got inaugurated. 2012 wasn't an inauguration Is it real? No, it's not an inauguration. There is an inauguration. They have to be elected and also here's another factor

22:11 2008, this was the first black president in history. It was a historic event. There's nothing historic about a Republican getting elected. No I totally agree with that! Totally but... And the other thing is how about let's see what the Bush inauguration looked like? Let's see what the Reagan inauguration looked like? Have some other examples besides besides the most historic event right in modern history which is electing a black president which is bound to pack them in You can't compare, you think Hillary was going to pack him in like well maybe because Hillary would be the first woman so that could pack them into. So this is all bullcrap from the get go. But here's a train of thought I had let's presume that this is all well we don't have to presume we are all in the middle of psychological warfare fact it's happening every single day

23:04 Is it possible that if you take the blue dress, silver dress black dress gold dress whatever the hell that was. That was almost a test Hey look we can certainly manipulate people they'll see one of two things you tell them what to see they'll see that It's pretty much if someone says that's gold and white...that's what your gonna see Do you think it's possible this was also maybe a shot across the bow saying, just so you know we control the zombies. Watch what we do! Oh look what we did... We had them all up and marching the day after your inauguration. WE CONTROL THEM. Thoughts? Uh yeah let's play this clip then

23:46 This is Michael Moore. I did fix it a little bit so it's not the real clip but its kind of the clip. This is Michael Moore when he was at the Women's March. Okay, I don't want to give the standard demonstration speech you got a lot of great speakers here today oh my god oh my god oh my god I got to listen to Gloria Steinem how cool was that? Okay, so this guy's up there and he says oh my god. Yeah I got to listen to Gloria Steinem How cool is that? Are you kidding me? He must have very little going on in his life Let me say this again exactly what he said although I read a little bit Oh My God, I got to listen to Gloria Steinem how cool is that

24:39 Really? No. Because I guess he's never heard her before or seen her! I think...I just found that to be distressing. I'm telling you, maybe you didn't find it that way. No. I mean look at Michael Moore and... It was extremely distressing that someone would some male would say that I don't care if he's a feminist male or not. Yeah, yeah, I get your point. Gloria Steinem is not so embedded in my history as it is yours just due to years on earth and years on American soil so that didn't hit me the same but what is happening

25:23 is memes are being launched at an incredible rate and they are catching fire. And this is one that just completely mind-boggling to me as if we restarted the show at the end of 2007. A terrifying future world where society's controlled by a totalitarian government, where facts are censored and truth is rewritten. A story where two plus two equals five The standard of living has risen by no less than 20 percent over the last year. This is one of the movies based on the book 1984, written 68 years ago by George Orwell a book that tonight is enormously popular again number one on Amazon's bestseller list in such demand that the publisher Penguin is furiously printing more copies of the book

26:10 I think people are buying it as a warning, as a sense of trying to understand what happens when the government is actually blatantly dissimulating facts and asking people to believe them as truth and not backing down when there's evidence to the contrary. Tonight, some analysts suggest the increase in 1984 book sales could be a response to the new White House. The Trump administration has been targeted by fact-checkers for alleging massive voter fraud but offering no proof and battling with the press over the exaggerated claims from the White House about inaugural crowd size. So hearing this report which... By the way dissimulation is a word turns out something only politicians can do

26:49 I was like, wow. Okay we can almost predict everything they're going to say and do now because it's just going to be exactly the same as everyone was saying when there was a... certainly when Obama was in the White House 1984 Ayn Rand you know all this stuff came out and so now they're claiming after a few days in office that 1984 is then is the fastest-selling book on Amazon mmm I think I gotta call bullcrap on that But when you put that into people's heads, of course you can see everything that way. Psychological warfare. Psychological warfare. Diverge 1984 tops Amazon's charts as Trump continues to lie...continues to lie! Yeah this is another so the alternate facts gave license for people to say he was a liar. They were saying this during the campaign it wasn't because of her.

27:46 Online sales of Orwell's 1984 have soared in recent days. I'm just going to stop you for a second, I've been checking the three major cable news outlets and the increase in saying he is a liar is remarkable not just they've been saying it to the campaign there has an increase. It's my beat! Online sales of George Orwell novel have soared in recent days as President Donald Trump continues to spread lies and misinformation The dystopian book first published in 1949 is now the best-selling book on Amazon. As of Wednesday morning, they have a link here I think which links to probably their account so they make five cents on a book.

28:27 That's kind of it. Not much to add to the article. Let's listen to an example here, of the parallel universes I love it when people actually recognize and say it themselves Mr Secretary throughout your splendid career And it has been a splendid career You've always been measured in the way you frame things publicly for the media When you hear Donald Trump, President Trump say keep the oil and passing reference of the in Langley on Saturday And linking keeping the oil to perhaps this would have prevented the creation of ISIS What would you advise? The president of the United States or would you advise the president United States that words matter when they come from a president well I think I think that there's sort of

29:14 parallel universes here. There is, for the administration there is the sort of public piece that includes the tweets and things said to the press and so on and so forth and that sometimes can be pretty jarring. And then there is the serious policymaking side, and the Donald Trump that people see in private meetings who's thoughtful and considered and takes things and listens to people." Now what's interesting about this is he says there are parallel universes within the Trump administration. Having done some research

29:55 Actually, people prefer to use the term... scientists prefer to use the term multiverse or multiple worlds. And I like these...I've got two clips from NPR Terry Gross with...hey it's Terry Gross fresh air! With physicist Brian Green and And they talk, this is from last year. They talk specifically about the multiverse parallel universes etc and what I like so much about this theory is that it is mathematically provable that this exists of course we can't really show to anybody right other than the examples we have

30:37 So just a little background on parallel universes or the multiverse. The reason why we have introduced a new term called the multiverse, which basically means multiple universes is because as we have studied physics ever more deeply We have found that what we have long thought to be everything is only a small part of a grander whole only one piece of a much wider cosmos and two really kind of communicate that idea we've introduced this new terminology that our universe is just one of many universes populating possibly a grander multiverse. And when you talk about many universes there's lots of different theories about what those universes might look like, right?

31:21 Yes, the wonderful thing about the subject is that there's not one monolithic notion of what a multiverse would be as we have studied a whole variety of different areas of physics from relativity quantum mechanics cosmology unified physics It seems to be the case that whenever we follow the mathematics of these deep theories sufficiently far, we bump into one or another variety of parallel universe idea. And to me what makes it so compelling is it's not that we physicists are sitting at our desks saying what kind of crazy idea can we introduce into science now? It's not like that at all! What we're doing is sitting at our desk trying to do what we always do which is trying to understand the universe come up with theories that can describe

32:07 observations, our data. And when we follow those theories far enough we come across some version that our universe is one of many." Okay so it does exist the way I see this Of course the universe only exists in your head. What you see is your reality and your truth, and I think it all comes down to frequencies You know what people say hey? I'm on the same wavelength as you yeah We're vibing you got a great vibe vibrations all this stuff is that people say that for a reason So if I see the dress is black and white or gold and white whatever It was and you see it That way then you know we are in these same universe because were on the same wavelength.

32:51 That's how it would work. It's not like something you can step into another one, it happens in your head and that of course is influenced by programming I think a little differently Okay Uh...I think what you say is absolutely true But what I'm seeing here, especially now. I'm glad you brought the multiverse clip in because it reminded me of an old theme of the show that we've kind of overlooked over the past few years and that's my fault because it was my theme and one of the things I should talk about more often and that the multiverse is the meta What we're dealing with in real life, with these two different universes that are... and then dropping it down one more layer to Trump having two sides of Trump is a fractal. Ah! Yes! Oh man don't we have a jingle for that? Some yes! Fractals. Which is also mathematically provable and you know fractal's aren't math

33:48 Mandelbrot. So we're dealing with a fractal of the multiverse or whatever metaverse, which is I guess what I would call it Well the metaverse is in real time and here's an example. Here's the example, now I have my left-wing buddies, the journalists. Yeah oh yeah, former New York Times guys and stuff like that. And a Wall Street Journal and also professor at ASU. So he calls me to talk about something and he is so into it, he's so much on the other side of the universe, the other universe, he's with on the other one that all his information is different than mine

34:25 Which is what makes it even more interesting. But they have been failing, this other universe, these group of hillbots we'll call them just to make it easy... They've been failing. They lost this election and they don't come to grips with their own... They don't know why they lost the election and they're still hounding on a popular vote thing I got couple clips about that And so he's gotten it in his head. This is like, you gotta remember these are the two guys that sat down at dinner with me and claimed that Trump was going to quit the campaign... Yes! To start his own media empire. ...and they were convinced of this and they bet money on it. Yeah not a lot but they bet money They wouldn't go all out I could have got more out them but I'm gentle Okay Now the latest thing is Is that there's money to made on this

35:17 that Trump's approval rating, according to these guys is dropping like a rock and it's going to hit 20% the lowest and they're gonna have to get rid of him. Oh because that's impeachable offense if you're... I guess something has to give That's great! I like that! You should bet money Now, the problem I've been having on Twitter is that every once in a while that universe... And I don't like to use Twitter as a place where I just bitch and argue with people on the other side of this. Although I see you do it reasonably frequently. I step there and then I pull back and then I block them! My method is- That's a joke! Come here, come here, come here! Block! Then I'll block him.

36:06 and then I don't have to deal with them anymore. But, I try not to get way over there and you can see where that can happen because there's some people arguing about something and you're oops! I've stumbled into it and then you wanna kinda back... You wanna walk away from it back stepping back, back, back But you're gonna end up with these people have got this screwiest concepts of the way things ought to be. And they're very confused right now, I want you to play this clip. I definitely wanna hear the clip, I just wanna play two more and then I have a longer one. I wanted follow-up from this Brian Green about... The physicist? The physicist yes and personally

36:44 I'm searching for a word. I don't like multiverse as a word, I don't like it that much... I think alternate instead of alternative, I think alternate universes explains it the best but let's just listen to his- For us at the metaphractal level it explains it well Yes Here just a follow up on uh and he said a lot more but this is another minute Okay so in one model of parallel universes of a multiverse and one model..I am interviewing you right now in another universe Absolutely. What's that model? And how is our interview going there? Well, I hope it's going well! But there are a couple of variations on the multiverse theme which would be compatible with that idea The simplest is basically the idea you began with That our universe may be infinitely big That space may go on forever and if that's the case It turns out that you can establish using pretty basic mathematics

37:40 that there's only a finite number of different ways that matter can arrange itself. So if you have an infinite expanse with only a finite number of different possibilities, the possibilities have to repeat I mean if you think about having a deck of cards when you shuffle that deck There are just so many different orderings that can happen, so if you shuffle that deck enough times the orders will have to repeat Similarly with an infinite universe and only a finite number of different complexions of matter The way in which matter arranges itself has to repeat So our collection of matter right now with you interviewing me That is repeating itself out there in the cosmos now I like this repeating thing because I caught him but this is

38:22 Ashley Judd did a repeat, you know she's repeating. She's repeating these things... Just as an interruption? There was a TV show exactly about this! What was it called? It was a sitcom or light drama I'm not sure. Sliders Oh yeah i remember them they didn't do too well Sly well, I think Scott got back to us. Got back you like it was a I guess yeah It was it didn't it? It was a unique idea it was highly entertaining for the first two or three episodes But it was so I think personally I Think it was so difficult

39:00 to make this, to dream these alternate universes up that it became bad. It just was like you couldn't sustain it was just one of these good ideas would have been a better movie. What I like so much about this theory for us is that I'm already seeing in the chat room people saying oh! That's bullcrap, this is bullcrap... You cannot particularly Hillbots, you can say- In another universe that guy would not be talking This is true But you can't say the science is wrong. You can't, there's more science to this than there is to man-made global warming There's not a consensus it's mathematical I love math! It's just a computer model No well yes that is but this is not a computer model This is mathematical Of course not though this has done the calculation The sad thing is that people who fall into these repeated alternative universes are people I respect

39:57 Alright, uh, E Street Band is glad to be here in Western Australia. Yes yes! But we're a long way from home and our hearts and spirits are with the hundreds of thousands of women and men that marched yesterday in every city in America and in Melbourne who rallied against hate and division, and in support of tolerance inclusion reproductive rights civil rights racial justice LGBTQ rights the environment wage equality gender equality health care and immigrant rights. Oh Bruce! That's sad

40:47 Bruce is in the wrong universe man. It's probably a universe you have to be in to beat Bruce. Yeah, it saddened me. Bruce, man, Bruce! Oh not bruise. All right You had some examples here's some some craziness that we're starting to see first of all of course there was the Ohio woman And I cut this back as much as i could but this is a woman uh trying to become the head of the DNC there's a big couple meetings most organized yes we everybody loves this clip yeah and this is a uh this was organized or she had some somehow joy reed had something to do with it and she was up there on the stage clapping madly as this crazy woman went on just set the stage little people are auditioning to be the chair of

41:38 the Democratic National, the national party. These are kind of auditions- And I think that's the direction it's going is what this woman is, I believe expressing to Democrat parties beside itself and they don't know what to do even though they really can win anything they want if they played their cards right but they can't do it but let's listen to this shut up Whitey clip. It makes me sad that we're even having that conversation and that tells me that white leaders in our party have failed We have to accept that there is prejudice that exists within our own party. And we have to be able to have it. We cannot sweep that under the rug, we cannot continue to hide it, we cannot smash voices down when they are trying to scream listen to me you don't get it! I'm a white woman, I don't get it

42:32 I am pleased and honored to be here today to have the conversation. I'm so excited that we're here, and I am listening because that's my job. My job is to listen to the issues. My job is to listen and be a voice, and my job is to shut other white people down when they want to interrupt. Yeah, you know I knew you were gonna have this clip so I I have to top ya sorry Been done. Yeah here it comes now. I had to watch this three times at first I thought oh

43:21 This is a joke. And then I thought, wow if this is written it's well done because it ends with With a kicker its hilarious It could have been an SNL skit and the third time I watched it I was pretty convinced this is real This is in a coffee shop You know, it's not a Starbucks but you know a coffee place And there's maybe five or six patrons are waiting line. There's one young lady she's standing there, and she'd ordered a latte or something and She just starts going off about how horrible Life is for black Americans and the barista is black also. Oh Okay, well before you play it all right I saw this I had the opportunity to do this clip in

44:11 I don't know if i should tell you my feelings. No, no, but I want you to tell them afterwards. Okay go! Everyone can judge for themselves...I still have a feeling it could have been staged but it was very well done if it was. It's such an incredible thing that you want right now like I want it! Don't you? To save affordable health care?! That's what I want for our and you don't have to because that's your choice. And Secretary Clinton believes that is everybody's choice, it was a choice so you didn't have to but if you did I'd water even if they grew up in Flint Michigan okay? Like I wish I could go there and clean all the water like sometimes I look at your coffee which is so delicious

45:09 These babies in Flint are drinking, it's like the coffee! Do you think that when you drink it? I know what you think that when you drink it. And like, I just want whatever we want for you and you are so much more than this job. Be a ballet dancer or truck driver or be the CEO of a fortune... I want to compete in! I wanna compete right now! You could be the next Sheryl Sandberg! Oh my god! You didn't leave a $20 tip, did you? No but you know what she's got dreams. She has so many dreams like I can see them in her eyes! I can see your dreams and i want them all to come true. As a Clinton supporter that is all I care about are people's dreams and women and the babies oh my god I care about the children of America so much

46:07 Oh my god, you know every time I take a sip of my coffee, like I would like take a sip for Standing Rock because I voted for Clinton and she wouldn't eventually care about that. I know she would have! And like...I'd take a sip for everyone who's been a victim of any violence of any kind. It'll be okay to take a sip for every Muslim woman after raising tangerine over the country He's just putting someone in front of the EPA who doesn't even like lattes. Like he- Was it a vanilla or charcoal? So, okay. I don't see how in a million years you can think that was real. Well obviously didn't take a million years for me to think that- Let me answer your question! I didn't have a question. Okay let me counter your statement then it had to be this woman acting alone without anyone else being in there

47:18 But, even if it's completely fake the fact that it could have been real is enough. Is this proven fake? I'm get, not yet. She's gonna have to come out eventually because she wants to be an actress. She's obviously a local improv person and she's been working on this bit for awhile. She got the crazy tangerine comic which- I like that! I like the crazy tangerine. That was written, that was done on purpose but there is nothing to do with it. Nobody would do this. But you had to have the... are you? Excuse me?!

47:55 Get on Facebag for a second. See what people do." Ha ha! Noah John. It's very sustained and Facebag people, yes but again I don't see people doing stuff in real life in public that they do on Facebook Half of those people wouldn't say in public half the crap they write up on Facebook Look it's okay we don't know if its fake but I'm not 100% convinced. I've seen this type of behavior And that means that they had, you know... They also had to have the barista in on it. It doesn't matter! We don't need to discuss whether it was fake or not I think it is a good example of what is going on Well, it's like the guy in the car we didn't play THAT clip Yeah but that was little more obvious and we did play the first bit of it

48:42 Did you see Big Joe? Well the guy who went over the top. I believe that right now we're looking at because of similar events that did take place, shorter bits than this one... This is what got me. This was so long. Shorter bits where you have Black girl who wants her safe space and they try to keep them the keeping you know there's a lot of year ago There was a bunch of this that went on mm-hmm, and then we had a bunch of people They're gonna kill themselves cuz Trump got elected And I got you know the girl with the gun do or head right? And all those things. I think that those things were half sincere half fake

49:20 But this was so long and so rehearsed and so slick with these lines like the tangerine, what is it? Crazy Tangerine. Yeah, I wrote it down. Now let me ask you this did you see the video of Big Joe Probably didn't. Big Joe in Los Angeles, so this is during the March, the Pussyhat March and there's some guy doing video on the street and he stops this black guy big black guys got to be six feet. He probably pushing 280 pounds huge guy really sweet face you know for a second you could look at him think maybe it was on his bicycle

50:02 You know, like is this guy retarded? Sorry for using the r-word people. But that's exactly what you're going to be like who is it and then when he starts to speak like holy moly and he shouts see what's happening today you and I especially as white old cisgendered straight guys we can't say anything about nothing But, if you're gay you can certainly say something about gay people and you can shout down people who are saying things that may be untrue. If you're black you could say things about black people. You see this? You can't say that if your not a member of the group who is being suppressed

50:42 So Big Joe, now it's a long clip so that's you know I'm now worried that you don't want to hear it but people have been just...I mean this thing is viral. People are just loving this guy! Why not play and when you've had enough we'll stop? How does that sound? Hit It! Big Joe what are you doing here today? I am nothing to do with this I don't even understand why they're having this. They had an inauguration yesterday, and now we have all this? What did Trump do for all of this to happen? He just got—came into office! What is this?! I see signs of unity and love and peace, and yet at his inauguration they were burning a McDonald's above us, limousines, and anarchy in the streets.

51:26 And what is this? When he was elected rightfully, I mean by the majority of the country that—you know. So even though there are half the country like this that disapprove, what about the other half that do like him? What about them? What about their feelings when Obama was president and he pushed his political agenda politically correctness and he's um, he pushed all his agendas. Did you see people doing all this? No because we united behind our American president and we just-we stuck it out." So now the crowd is gathering around him now white girls are starting to yell at him.

52:07 No, Trump was not. What made him not? When was he not elected? You're on a bicycle and you're oblivious. You're on a bicycle and you're oblivious now that's there you go that's the kind of people... There is little kind of bigoted thing to say That's the people who are out there marching you're on a bicycle. You're on a bicycle and your oblivious. You're on a bicycle and you're oblivious. What are you talking about? Are you kidding me? Wait a minute! There's lessons to be learned by the way from this guy how he approaches this kind of type of pushback again You know I have the wrong skin color to do it. The way, but it's good Change we're gonna change this guy is smart No people like you

53:00 You know why Trump couldn't get anyone to his inauguration? Because of the... Well now Now, let's...here are my thoughts on this guy already. This guy is an actor set up. This is one of those two black women that kept floating around and they were all trumpets and they did skits about... Yeah I know! That's right yeah I remember sure the sisters yes man this is one of those guys and he's but I don't think he's insincere

53:55 At all. No, he actually goes on to make a lot of very good points which you don't want to hear but I'll just tell you what He says yeah be easier. I mean because it's at some point. I mean this guy yes He makes good points all his points are good. I'm not gonna ease that but I think he's sincere I think he's But he's he's this is staged again This is done on purpose now I decided on purpose so this guy can do this little no thing and then he got this nice added bonus Of these women coming in it's not staged This was not staged You know, you have to see it. This was not staged and now he brings in Planned Parenthood Margaret Sanger against sterilization of black people but the thing that is most important that he says is because you are so rabid with your political correctness your friends were afraid to say anything because they would be shouted down as racist and what they did is they went into the voting booth and that's where they made their opinions clear

54:49 But this was not staged. You really need to see it." Okay, well check it out I mean all his points are well taken and I think he but these points are a little too refined for some guy on a bicycle floating around just happened to be caught by camera It's too refined to the argument that you your friends went into the voting booth and they vote their voted their heart and they vote in their hearts said Trump is a refined argument. Is not something that some people on some guy on this street just peddling around would have it as just at the top of his head to be able to blow this off like that was fantastic. I'm not buying it." You think that there's no one who can speak like that? Exactly, yes exactly! You think if you or i were in that situation we would have been able to speak like them? Not with those arguments all lined up one after the other...I've heard stuff from you on the show and you weren't ranting in a kind of deliberate manner

55:49 No, I was also wasn't on the streets surrounded by hundreds of people yelling at me. That's what that's this You don't have you haven't seen what this looks like well That would make it even more look even more staged to me because now the guy's got his audience And he can do his thing and is being filmed. I'm sorry no its okay. It's fine I just disagree The other one if the barista I set it up that way This one I think is real It doesn't matter. I'm of the opinion that... You should take a look at it and then, uh.. I'll look at it and probably feel the same right way Maybe Now here's the thing that I wanted to play which is part of the other side of the argument And I found this to be extremely offensive This is Jackie Speier A California Congresswoman

56:35 who, a Democrat. Who was at some little... What do you call it? Town hall that she set up someplace nearby and this is what she's saying. If we really drill down on the electoral college why should votes in Wyoming have three times the value as votes in California Something is fundamentally wrong if the popular vote does not necessarily reflect who becomes president of the United States. Didn't she? Wait, wait, wait, wait, she says something is wrong when the popular vote doesn't determine who's the president. Is that what she said? Yeah. What an idiot! Besides being an idiot which I totally agree with isn't doesn't she take an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution

57:30 The point you're always making? Of course. Well, the Constitution is where the Electoral College exists! I understand but this isn't upholding the Constitution This is the psychological warfare that's taking place by saying this over and over again And by the way Trump pissed me off Everyone tweeted the link. He said my primary... It's about time, you Trump lackey! My primary job is to protect the American people. Uh let me think Trump uh no You must protect and uphold the Constitution. As a part of that, you protect the American people." Pisses me off! Yeah I know thats why i found this to be a great clip for me Well lets talk about these illegal votes then for a moment which I think you and I both agree absolutely there's all kinds of people voting who shouldn't be voting Absolutely

58:28 Well, I'm going to stop you because the Washington Post in 2014 wrote an article saying that there was a bunch of illegal voting. They had to put a disclaimer in front of it because apparently people are now all going and referring to it. And that's become a huge controversy. They're really good at putting little updates on the top of their stories when it turns out to be full of crap or something they don't like about what they wrote. Yeah, this is Congressman Steve King. Who was at this question is put to him and here he goes. Two sources are telling NBC News that at a reception at the White House last night with President Trump and members of both parties in Congress In the first 10 minutes or so He brought up on this idea that as he says three to five million illegals people who were not legally voting Is what prevented him from winning the popular vote? When you hear that What goes through your mind? That's not true

59:19 That's not true. There is no evidence that exists, so why would the president be talking about this? Does it bug you?" I hadn't heard the 3 to 5, but I heard the three million. But there is data out there that is a sample data from certain counties two counties in Virginia for example and other counties scattered around the country and I took that article just when I first saw come out a couple of months ago and did an extrapolation calculation on how many illegals could have or be voting in the United States. The number I came up with off of that extrapolation was 2.4 million, so it's plausible a number of 3 million sounds like it's a plausible number to me and... You're not disputing..I guess I'm intrigued by this congressman because

59:59 The question that I have been directing was more of the fact that he's bringing up this false claim But you believe it's actually true. You think there is a possibility of it? I don't know what data He's looking at, and I can only express the data that I've looked at and look into it further Fact checkers have knocked that down Well sometimes fact-checkers have a political agenda And I don't want to have...I don't want to have a whole term about alternative facts but I can say I read those facts from those sample counties that could mean for America, got out my calculator ran the numbers I came to 2.4 here's what we know. Do you believe two point four million people voted illegally in this election? I just believe that two point four million is a simple number based off of an extrapolation but what i do know is there are many people who will go into motor voter giving license drivers licenses to illegals they ask them if they want to sign up and under motor voter register to vote maybe they don't understand the language maybe they understand they can be signed up anyway but some of them going and vote

1:00:54 I am completely convinced of that. I don't know the number, we need to clean it up and motor voter is a gateway to illegal voting." There's a little note of irony in this which is that he did this calculation... He did an extrapolation. Yeah, yeah that's the bad part Well the extrapolations what global warming is based on Yep And this, I guarantee this reporter was all in on global warming. No problem there! Oh yeah But this extrapolation's crazy! It's fun when you can do that with science Yeah and right with science it's even worse I mean his extrapolation probably makes more sense because it is a straight up extrapolation Well he actually has numbers from the counties

1:01:45 I found that makes you want to play my global warming clip, but i'll save it. No if you do it then I have to play one too. No no let's finish the voter fraud of a voter fraud clip okay set up No, set up an investigation after investigation In a variety of sectors that all conclude the same thing voter fraud may be very very isolated But at the end of the day it is nearly non-existent Rick question for you Sean Spicer today tried to seemingly dial down The accusations that Donald Trump had made and he said that the investigation if it goes forward will look at things like dead people on the voter roll

1:02:24 or people being registered in two different states. Interestingly today, it turned out that the president's daughter his Commerce Secretary pick and his counselor Steve Bannon were themselves all registered to vote in two different states Those things happening dead people on voter rolls are registered into States is that evidence of fraud? Well, there is occasional fraud. But almost all of these accusations of dead people voting turn out to be either bureaucratic incompetence or voter error. So a few years ago there was sensationalized statement in North Carolina that there were tons of dead people voting and when they actually investigated they found that not one of those involved voter fraud mostly what they involved was either mistake where say

1:03:10 a senior was confused for a junior or voter signed on the wrong line in the poll book. You know what I don't understand is why is everyone protesting the idea of just making sure that it's not happening? Well, On the same, I'm in the same wavelength. Hey man we're in the same universe baby! I am kind of baffled by this myself and people that are claiming there's maybe voter fraud base a lot on an interview that some Hispanic did with Trump which I don't have the clip of, but it's all over the place where she saying well you know what about somebody who is illegal and she wants to...she or he wants to vote. No that was Obama! That was Obama saying you can vote. Did they say Obama? Yeah no you said hold on i have that clip go ahead explain it and ill find it. She shows she's talking to Obama and Obama says oh they dont have to worry about it because her concern was if you go vote illegally then your gonna get caught and deported and Obama assured her that wont happen

1:04:08 Well, this is like encouraging illegal voting it seems to me. That's what everybody thinks that's what I kind of think yes and i think in California where the turn where Hillary got 4.2 million votes more than Obama even though she there was no reason not to expect that because California just votes all Democrats. I think there was a lot of illegal voting in California just makes sense because the numbers are so skewed The clip was actually part of a longer clip, so I'm not going to play it. But we have him actually saying that thing well he didn't really disclaim it properly but it was obvious that he didn't say oh don't vote if you're not allowed to. It's encouraging the way I saw it and let's go back and take your point why wouldn't anyone want to just check it out? And here is the other thing about that gets me

1:05:00 Why, which is to reiterate what you just said. Why don't they want to check? Why wouldn't they want to have it checked out so they can throw it in Trump's face because real proof I the only thing I can extrapolate or conclude is that they know has happened Why would you protest it otherwise just makes no sense? Why would you make such a fuss always a liar is again You've got no proof yet. No proof well why don't you guys that are saying that on the other side of the fence on that on The globalists by the way I've divided the nude group yes, sir no no borders no nations no borders no nations people mm-hmm uh why don't you

1:05:42 Let him sink himself, let him put his foot in his mouth. Why aren't you encouraging that rather than bitching and moaning about him being a liar? You should say yeah let's do this check, let's do an investigation, let's see what happens! And then when the investigation fails... We can laugh at them. ...let's see if Trump would say he was wrong. That would seem the logical thing I'd want to do. If you look at whats happened just since the beginning of the year Even Fox is all in on on, you know the Trump is lying. I mean not the Hannity's they still got their guys there but look- Oh no Hannity never! But we have Megyn Kelly she has gone to NBC, we have Greta Van Zusteren she is now at MSNBC You know there are all these transfers you know we always knew Fox was running and hey Fox the guy who was running it got kicked out The Democrats are in charge They're running it Like we always said and now its very very apparent

1:15:41 Shut up, slave! Shut up, slave! Shut up, slave! Alrighty then. Let's do some global warming Why don't I open the gate? What do you feel about that? Yay! To the gate to the gate to the climate gates! Okay Yeah, the table is yours. Oh Thank you mm-hmm well Let's go with the crazy story that's been floating this has been going on for a week But every day keep playing the story over and over on PBS and others news outlets And this clip would be warmest

1:16:20 scrambling to backup files. The Trump administration is also temporarily silencing the Environmental Protection Agency to align the EPA's public statements with the president's here's Jim Axelrod At President Trump's alma mater, the University of Pennsylvania, environmental professors like Bethany Wiggin listened carefully to candidate Trump talk about climate change. So Obama is talking about all of this with global warming and that... A lot of it is a hoax! Which is why she her colleagues and students are now racing back up on other servers information available on government websites

1:16:57 temporary restrictions announced today that EPA employees can no longer post or blog from government accounts stoked their fears the administration will limit access to data as it rolls back environmental protections. I'm really worried that the facts may become more difficult to access so there's a kind of kind of a vulnerability of internet materials already. They become more vulnerable still when controlled by an administration who finds them inconvenient Oh, oh nice use the word inconvenient. I think I have a CBS version of the same report possibly with this yes Oh that was let me say president Trump's alma mater. Yeah, that was the same clip okay? Same clip yeah, I thought it was NBC for second well what is happening is The media is doing such in the the corporate media as doing such a disservice to

1:17:52 to its product, because that's where you are when you watch it. But they're doing such a disservice that the fear is unbelievable and I need to talk about some gay fear in a moment after we get...after we close The Climate Gate but- Yeah yeah another climate clip too. Sure but the fear that's being instilled in people about this It's insane. What fear are we talking about? People don't back up their data or they don't have thumb drives and put their work on it? Here is how people are perceiving this on the face bag, oh my god he is shutting it all down! He is gagging them, he is locking it down, he is destroying data that will have no historical record

1:18:38 None of this is true, at least there's no evidence it's true. And quite honestly I would agree that you can't... everyone tweeting out all the time but that should be reigned in for sure! It should be reigned in. Obama reigned in everything he threw more whistleblowers in jail than anybody ever. But that was okay. Well, that's the argument that doesn't work and is I don't...I just don't do that. What's your other clip? You can go on to face bag and say when Obama did it! It's like you remember the hallowed hall, the hallowed ground, a hallowed ground that Trump stood in front of the hallowed ground of the CIA

1:19:21 Where was Obama's first speech at the CIA? The exact same spot. Exact same spot, the exact same hallowed ground spot. Yeah I know there was a couple of clips of that and it's by the way his message was really lame compared to...I thought Trump did a good job there yeah you got Jerry Brown as your follow up. Yes Jerry Brown so just want to hear what we deal with in California environmentalists who plan to stand up for climate change and advocate for environmental policy. Governor Brown says California is ready to lead that fight. Whatever they do in Washington, they can't change the facts and these are the facts. The climate is changing, the temperatures are rising and so are the oceans.

1:20:07 Now what oceans I saw what oceans. I live on an ocean where's the where is the rising? I don't see it. I'm seeing ever seen it John I'm saying got a map from 1890 that shows exactly the same same shoreline, um Well, that's an outdated map. I have a map. I have a map from yesterday I get to I got both the guy sent me a new one and all one same thing I don't understand why you're arguing with me. I'm on your side. I mean your universe but What I saw Joe Rogan It was a tweet or an Instagram and he said, look at this is California. And it's green! It's complete... everything is green!! It's beautiful like I've never seen California before

1:20:49 Why are you laughing? How soon you forget. Yeah, ten years it looks like this and And this and what you guys had I think he mentioned this last year You guys had a super drought and it was never gonna end or whatever and now what I never said wasn't gonna end But they all that's all the warm is no we're never gonna It's ever going to be war there's gonna be no more water hmm So despite this And speaking of Joe Rogan, who I like. Big crossover between our shows very disappointed in his interview with Shane Smith Who is the co-founder of Vice Yeah

1:21:27 Actually for both of them like wow this is really where you guys are at that's within five minutes of the interview And I think Shane has a couple of f-bombs in here. Just warning you it turns to Global warming and climate change, you know when you talk about the environment when you talk to the scientists They're all like well Of course it's a global scientific consensus of course It is And then I did this piece this year on it and see of course it is you know, of course It isn't five. It's gonna be the first piece and i'm like, I literally don't understand what the fuck is happening here Because if you talk to every scientist now They're terrible

1:22:05 Getting information at scientists, but they're like well. That's not my fucking job my job is to do science I don't fuck you know right so really no there's this really really Scientists the whole point is publishing But okay global scientific consensus of you know go boring 97% which never happens in any science right ever No because it's bullshit, but there's all this I love the irony of saying this never happens, but it happened If it never happens it never happened in the fantastic And he's the guy that just used literally in a literal sense of you know global warming 97% which Never happens at any science right ever, but there's all this Doubt not all over the world But a lot in America still so we looked at it. We said why then what fuck is happening here and I?

1:22:51 But there's now three AGs, three attorneys in general with 20 other in support who have come out for this lawsuit against Exxon. The CEO of Exxon is now our Secretary of State." Wait for it John! You're going to be astounded by these facts! Rex Tillerson... And so what happened was they knew in the 70s and 80s that fossil fuel You know, burning fossil fuels. Carbon in the air? No not carbon! It's not carbon it's not carbon its carbon dioxide. Air. Carbon emissions caused global warming... No NO NO NO In the 70s they were saying was calling global cooling if you recall Not global warming did they know that something was going on yeah and they predicted the ice age so sorry That fossil fuel

1:23:44 You know burning fossil fuels carbon in the air carbon emissions. I hate it when people do that It's not carbons global warming and was a factor for global warming And then they realize this is gonna be bad for business so in the 80s and 90s, and now they spend billions of dollars on You know discrediting the science. That's the whole thing well, there's no consensus. There's no consensus where's my check? That's that's the thing and they spend billions of dollars to do it There is a consensus does it merchants of doubt I did amazing amazing yeah And so highlights that exactly in a lot of people It's the same people what that highlights is it's the exact same scientists and the exact same people and groups

1:24:24 And more like smoking. It's the same science as John is to say the exact same people who said smoking won't kill you. I mean, this guy took the oldest meme in The Global Warmest book and stepped it up by saying it's the same scientists, the same like so that climate scientists are the ones who stopped a smoking thing? That's what he said. What he means is the climate scientists are the same guys who taught, and the clip finishes in 30 seconds which would be John P Holdren by the way, President Obama's science guru they're the same people

1:25:02 Apparently, who said no smoking will kill you and More like this did smoke. Oh yeah, that went after cigarettes. They did cigarettes it well in some cases the same scientist Yeah, they said oh wow it's exact same thing its question the science yes You know well that's crazy stop stop stop Don't question science! Hiller-Don't question the science. Well, we can't really figure out smoking lung cancer could be anything... Klineman- And do it loudly and concisely with quick sentences where they're very well prepared. Hiller-Exactly. They did the exact same thing with global warming and that's why when you come here and talk to people

1:25:41 You know, look we have to do this. We have to they just like no science isn't settled Fuck you And you're like it's like back in the day when your mouth would open and a cigarette would come out and say Smoking is good for you It's like an oil can comes out. You're like now the science isn't settled yet there you go Sounds right? Sounds about yeah spot-on I'd say very disappointing And if Joe wants a little background in 97% we have show notes, but I'm happy to do it in person for him. Shane Smith can go pound sand Yeah the 97 percent thing is just the most annoying of all the memes and We've discussed on this show million times where it comes from mm-hmm and how its bogus bogative incredibly incredibly bogative So while were on this fear stuff

1:26:36 I got a message. We have a little fear side light yeah, let's do some give me some this is a fear of mumps But I just the mumps clip but I'm just gonna be partially and ask Adam Okay And I'm not gonna I'm gonna ask you after the club mom's outbreak in Spokane Washington tonight hundreds of students in 21 schools now in that county forced to stay home Health officials say there are at least 80 confirmed cases, many involving people who were vaccinated. More than 300 students without up-to-date vaccinations are not allowed in school now warning students they have to get that vaccine. Okay, I have to listen to it again because I was so yeah. Yeah well they'll give everyone an opportunity They'll give everyone an opportunity To listen for the anomaly months outbreak in Spokane Washington tonight hundreds of students in 21 schools now in that county forced stay home Health officials say there are at least 80 confirmed cases many involving people who were vaccinated More than 300 students without up-to-date vaccinations are not allowed in school now warning students they have to get that vaccine

1:27:40 Oh, you mean people who got the vaccine got the mumps? 80 of them. Yeah! That's not an anomaly that happens all the time. Well I mean the way this story is presented it's kind of a side light. It says oh 80 people who get the mumps many have been vaccinated but you've gotta get vaccinated why?! That sounds like it doesn't work. There is some question you can put to it. People who get polio shot don't necessarily get polio do they? No rarely. Okay, so it sounds like the mumps vaccine is no good Actually before I do that. I wanted this was a interesting article which I think comes into our journalist licensing there's a lot of outrage over a number of journalists who were kettled during the Protests and are now facing ten years in prison $25,000 fine etc for what for rioting or for being a part of the writing

1:28:45 In fact, Guardian says a documentary producer, a photojournalist, a live streamer and free... What is a live streamer? Somebody goes around livestreaming. I want that on my business card Adam Curry livestreamer. Livestreamer! Let me write that down. It sounds like you're peeing in your pants all the time. I'm a livestreamer as well as a freelance reporter were each charged because they were caught up in the riots and they were kettled And there's a lot of outrage over this. And I think that where this is going to lead is licensing and, you know...if you're out there like in a war zone, you're gonna have to wear a flak jacket that says press on the back and helmet, goofy helmet? I believe as for the licensing because I think about this every so often personally but it's against the Constitution

1:29:39 I believe that to get the licensing done properly, get people on board with it is you're gonna have to bring up more and more and more of these incidents where it's gonna have to be for the public good. You're gonna have to then you can get the licensing so we know because there's going to expect a lot... It's all gonna be subtle propaganda about blogs and tweets and who's a journalist or who's not a journalist for the public good It'll be like oil... There's no such thing in the Constitution that says you have to... It's for your protection, you mean. Yeah there is nothing in the Constitution that says due practice law that you have to be a member of The Bar Association Of Kentucky? Not in there! No it's not. And it seems like freedom of speech to me. Seems like a First Amendment right to be a lawyer in court

1:30:31 Yeah, but no. Same for the press thing of people. Interesting. Although in the press...the problem with the press is it's specifically mentioned Right Well we can't stand for that happening and but maybe this is something you know this president is pretty down on the media so I don't know what his plan is But I'm sure he'll try a lot of things to screw with him, but they better not be hurting us Now, I mean yeah. Hello? We have the podcast license! This is fact thank God. The fears that are being... actually i have a list of my list so here all the crises Obamacare repeal which I've seen

1:31:18 You know, as today the Senate voted to take away my right of notary public loan signing agent in pre-existing conditions and I'm on my way for doctorate rise and I have my access. Nothing has been voted. Make a time note on that one. Yeah, nothing has been... I can't remember, 131. Nothing has been voted on is also it's not all executive orders as executive order and the presidential memoranda which is different they have hold the same power but the Executive Order can only be overridden by another executive order and presidential memorandum functions differently

1:31:57 So people are being, I mean completely terrorized and we'll round back into that in a second as it comes to abortion. That's all this is about just about abortion we'll get to that stealing oil from countries we occupy which you know another thing Trump said like yeah well we should have taken the oil maybe we'll get another chance sounded pretty warmongersh to me You know, the claiming the votes were illegal. Of course now we have even Paul Krugman saying in his New York Times op-ed that Trump is obviously mentally ill. Sanctuary cities which it turns out Austin is going to be ground zero of the sanctuary cities fracas

1:32:47 Well, you might as well play my sanctuary cities clip while you're on this roll. OK, hold on... Sanctuary cities? Another executive order signed today cracks down on so-called sanctuary cities There are hundreds of them that use local ordinances and policies to shelter illegal immigrants from federal law enforcement Carter Evans is in Los Angeles El pueblo unido jamás será vencido When it comes to taking on President Trump's immigration policy, California has drawn a line in the sand. In California immigrants are an integral part of who we are and what we've become Governor Jerry Browns message this week was blunt Let me be clear We will defend everybody Every man woman and child who has come here for better life And is contributing to the well-being of our state

1:33:41 California has 18 sanctuary cities. Brian Abarca was born in Mexico and brought to the US at age 3 Are you worried that you might get pulled over for speeding one day though? end up getting detained. Yes, that's everyday life He lives in Los Angeles where Mayor Eric Garcetti has instructed police not to enforce immigration laws Even if it threatens federal funding in Los Angeles you stand to get up to 500 million dollars this year These are dollars that protect our port our airport keep homeless veterans off the streets You're saying pulling funding from LA could actually hurt the rest of the country No question

1:34:20 There's anxiety going around. There is a lot of worry. Pedro Trujillo's parents, both undocumented immigrants brought him to the US when he was 7 Are there gonna be raids coming our way in the coming months? We don't know that yet Deportation force! Deportation Delta Force on its way Well, so here's what a sanctuary city is. Not everybody knows exactly what that is but Austin is now a great example and I think we're going to be ground zero of this debate seeing as Texas the governor of Texas has said very clearly no you can't bring in refugees and we really need to work on...Texas had huge problem with illegal immigration

1:35:03 Last week, our new sheriff of Travis County which is where I am in Austin Sally Hernandez said she would limit cooperation with the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials as ICE saying that she would only honor immigration holds for suspects booked into the Travis County Jail on charges of capital murder aggravated sexual assault and continuous smuggling of persons not if they're just here illegally. So and of course... But what if there were robbers? Um, capital murder aggravated sexual assault and continuous smuggling of persons. She did not say that said those were the only things that they would be contacting ICE about. No? Well... beatings! She may but that's not what she said drugs yeah well you would hope so um

1:35:50 And normally this comes from the mayor, although I know our new mayor is also all in on it. But here's the sheriff herself making this decision and so of course what the federal government will say as well then you're not going to get a lot of resources if you don't play ball. Um...I think- I think states have their own right to do what they want Yes, they do. But the way it's been set up and this is a long-term thing to get the central government which I'm going to call the Central Government take control of everything is by using these little having these you know take a bunch of tax money and put in a pot and give it back to the states if they play ball right? Which is how Common Core got done

1:36:35 So I'll have my eye on what's happening here. So that sanctuary cities, torture of course you know President Trump said torture works the wall obviously which everyone is freaking out about Then we have the lies, the lies like... You're freaking out about the wall? I don't know Yeah There's a meme going around when just bring into this conversation Mm-hmm I don't if you've noticed it The meme is that Obama, when he first got in office signed a executive order to close Gitmo. This has been played on so many outlets for some reason but the Congress... You can take that to the bank!

1:37:17 Congress wouldn't fund it and it needed congressional funding, so they just held back the money. And that's the reason that Gitmo after eight years was never shut down even though he guaranteed it would be. Now the funny thing about this meme is that when Obama who said this want to be one of his... He had two first orders of business. One was pull out of Iraq- Yeah and close Gitmo? ...and close Gitmo. That was it. How did that work? First in office, he had 60 votes in the Senate. He had the entire House of Representatives. He had anything he wanted so this nonsense that Congress wouldn't fund it seems a bit phony to me. It's brought up from time-to-time but people move the conversation on very quickly whenever someone brings that up That he had full control over... you could have put him single payer health care Yeah

1:38:16 We'll get to that in a moment. Let's first start with the Trump administration hates gays meme, this is close to my heart because of my daughter and other people in my environment and I really despise when people terrorize people So, this is the latest one that's going around. You can expect this to be full court, full blown everywhere in the media over the next few days. First Amendment Defense Act would be devastating for LGBTQ Americans touts NBC News Earlier this month Senator Ted Cruz and Senator Mike Lee of Utah through a spokesperson

1:38:54 told BuzzFeed, which of course now NBC News quoting BuzzFeed is great. They plan to reintroduce an embattled bill that barely gained a House hearing in 2015 but this time around they said the First Amendment Defense Act was likely to succeed due to Republican controlled house and the backing of President-elect Donald Trump And what they are...what is being said is and you know this is about religion obviously Um, is that this is going to be devastating. That gays and lesbians and transgendered and queer and intersexual and the light or whatever everyone's gonna be can legally be discriminated against. So along the vein of you know, you can't dispute this if you're a black guy, you can't dispute this if you're not a gay guy. I went to our resident Brian The Gay Crusader who was in Chicago

1:39:51 And I would like to share his response to this fear-mongering from him, from a leader. He is actually a leader in the LGBT community in corporate organizations and fights for LGBT rights! Which are human rights. Ready? Yeah When it comes to Mike Pence people... Of course this is more about Pence than anything And that's a little bit of reiteration, but we need to hear it. People only tell half the story Yes Governor Mike Pence did sign the Religious Freedom Restoration Act which potentially allowed for discrimination against LGBT individuals in Indiana however Completely ignored is the fact that after the bill became law and concerns were voiced about the Religious Freedom Restoration Act enabling discrimination against gays, it was the same governor Mike Pence who called on lawmakers to pass legislation clarifying that does not allow business owners to discriminate in providing services.

1:40:43 After demanding that the Indiana legislator change the law and they complied with his demands, it was Mike Pence who signed that revised legislation which prohibited LGBT discrimination into law. And here is specifically in Indiana the law prohibits discrimination in state employment based on sexual orientation and identity. In Indiana, by law you cannot be fired for being LGBT which is what everybody wants. And I want it too because believe me if i have to get a real job...I'm T! And you can't fire me cause' I'm a T. Secondarily, If you work for the US Federal Government You CAN be fired simply for being LGBT as there's no law that provides the same protections as Indiana

1:41:29 So it is more logical that he will install something like this because this Religious Freedom Act, really all...it's only two stipulations. I'm going off his email here for a second It really says that no government No federal government institution may discriminate Okay, so it's specific. I know it slipped out. I tried to keep it quiet but it came through my lips anyway It is this specifically That you can't target people with like IRS audits or any of that so all of that stuff Is what you want

1:42:09 But the fear is being put in everybody with this complete, and it is just factually incorrect. It's a lie! How come it's not called what it is? I'll tell you why I don't think it's a lie...I think to tell a lie you have to believe that you're telling something that's not the truth. Well then Trump's off the hook! Yeah probably There's a little bit more, actually he has a little background about himself and how Clinton was actually horrible for gays in the 90s and he worked for the Democrats. I'm going to skip all that While Trump's words may be murky about LGBT rights, the man host... and remember this is Brian The Gay Crusader. The man hosted Elton John's wedding long before same-sex marriage was cool he rolled out the red carpet at Trump Tower for Caitlyn Jenner to use the women's bathroom with those two actions President Trump has done far more for LGBT people than Hillary Clinton has ever done

1:43:03 And President Trump's pollster, Tony Fabrizio is the fattest gay man I know. He's also one of the nicest people on the planet but I highly doubt that President Trump will take action which would hurt LGBT Americans For the record, when Donald Trump mentioned LGBTQ Americans in his speech at the Republican convention he did so with more passion and sincerity than I have ever seen from Clinton or Obama when discussing the same topic. I didn't vote for Trump but my words are true! I would be remiss if i failed to mention the shocking number of gays I know here in Chicago's gayborhood who DID vote for Trump!" Thank you very much Brian The Gay Crusader So when this hits because it's going to hit if it's not already happening now

1:43:41 These are the facts that you can take with you if your questioned about it and I'd like to distill some of this fear that is being propagated on our children here by Sodom. Yeah. A lot of it being done by the teachers in the schools, you got lots of letters from people that talk about this. That actually was something that big Mike said or Big Joe whatever he said if this is what your learning in school we gotta change education well yeah there's that and it seems were going to with Betsy DeVos

1:44:22 She can only be intended to be in there to blow it up. I mean, she can't be there to run it. Yeah well that's the idea. That's what... She's married too! She's married to somebody that's... You gotta look up her husband It's just really what oh really? Yes, it's a what well I mean they're Aren't they from Dutch descent no. It says Eric Prince is her Yeah, Eric princes yeah from his the husband No, no no no no no so it's like son or nephew yes Yes Oh, no, this brother hurt Thank You Eric Prince I love it when you do that because you're so fucking certain that your right I know but I have to be with you

1:45:03 And I back off very fast. Good idea! So also now of course is, and I have a very particular...I've got nothing about women in my life so i have a lot of talks about this and this of course is my reproductive rights let's stop with this language My reproductive rights you have the right to reproduce that's bullcrap The problem and at least then go back Abortion is legal in the United States of America. The Supreme Court ruled that that is a woman's privacy, so you can't tell anyone what... You don't have to tell anybody what you're doing with your body, so you can do that. States have a lot of control over what happens in their state because it's an... The next phrase you hear is I don't have access to women's health care!

1:45:57 Yes, you do. The problem is who pays for it? That is the only thing that is really on the table It is turned into well here's Andrea Mitchell just to give you an idea of what this is being turned into the latest executive order on Mexico City gag order basically it doesn't seem with Mexico City it is on abortion or counseling contraceptive counseling through international organizations our best understanding of it is that he has expanded this beyond what George W. Bush and previous Republican administrations have done And to basically say that these international agencies cannot use their own funding for such work. 21 million women get unsafe abortions, the WHO says, the World Health Organization. 13% of maternal deaths, the WHO says comes from unsafe abortions by putting this global gag rule back into effect we are sending many women around the world to an early death. Oh yeah! Okay now that's not fear-mongering is it?

1:47:00 Because, because and let me...and it's called the Mexican rule. And it's not a gag order. It was very simple as part of the ruling by the Supreme Court, the agreements were made that said the federal government may not fund abortions. That is that simple! So this rule which by the way President Obama took out a couple months ago, very quietly didn't even know about it means that money that's sent to Mexico Bolivia and million other places may not be used for abortions.

1:47:38 So it's federal money, grants and stuff. USAID stuff things that we send to other countries and second I think there is new language they've added in which is you can also not support or promote it. That is definitely now of course those people are not in America so freedom of speech is different but still doesn't mean that we have to give money to them for something that is by law not legal here second clip because we're crazy to be thinking this. Dear Catholic constituents who may be relieved to no longer know that their tax dollars will go to fund abortions, let me just say this I'm a Catholic and have five children in six years anybody anybody have standing on the issue? Found that to be quite odd talking about abortion so that i have five children I have standing

1:48:27 Did you have an abortion? I just thought that was kind of odd. Let me just say this, i'm a catholic and have five children in six years anybody Anybody have standing on the issue? And I think that what the, there has not been taxpayer dollars spent on abortions. You know that so this is fraudulent it's fraudulent and what they're doing is making it more dangerous so that people can't spend their own dollars in the exchanges to have access to reproductive rights So we will fight that and my constituents

1:49:04 support that. I don't believe this to be true what she says because she's somehow if you spend your own dollars you can do whatever you want to do the exchanges, uh...I don't understand why unless there are subsidies which they probably are but certainly for the twenty or thirty or a hundred million Americans and number changes every week who were getting free health care through Obamacare yeah that cannot be used for abortions But here is a simple fact. In Texas specifically, the state is doing what they can do. The state says we don't like it they got all kinds of religious reasons I don't agree with them I think there are A-holes for that and they say well we're gonna try and restrict this and they say well here's all these rules that you need to have for a clinic

1:49:51 It's their right to do it. If you don't like it, then vote these a-holes out and get somebody else in but that's the way it is they're not saying you can't have it and people are running around saying the government won't let me do this as my...it's not true! You just don't want to pay for it That's all The millionaires and billionaires in Austin Texas could have put 50 clinics all across Texas for less money and less effort than all the bitching and moaning they've been doing. It just has to adhere to certain medical standards, you know like the law can work on changing that but at the same time give up I'll pitch in my money Let there be places for women to do this if they can't afford it. But it's only about who can pay for or who is going to pay for that's what the whole conversation about at the same time we get stuff like this Madam Speaker, as the House begins consideration of H.R 7 This is Frederica Wilson Democrat from Florida I rise in solidarity with the women on the world

1:50:50 I rise in outrage as yet another attempt to control our bodies and our access to quality care. Madam Speaker, it's my body! It doesn't belong to this house. I alone bear the burden pain and joy that it brings please stop trying to regulate my reproductive organs they belong to me Have you ever had a menstrual period? Have you ever felt the unbearable pain in every bone of your body during childbirth? Madam Speaker, there are millions of mothers living in inadequate public housing and trailer parks raising their children alone. And we're here to consider anti-choice bills that restrict access to women's care

1:51:39 house passes H.R 7? Will it support universal pre-care and Head Start? Will this house reform foster care and stop greasing the prison pipeline with unwanted children?" It seems to me that this Republican House cares about babies right up until the minute they're born into the world, then they disappear and desert their children forever! to stop the cradle-to-grave neglect. How many more anti choice bills we need to put on the floor before we do what's important to build a society? Madam Speaker, we need to give women and their families and their doctors the ability to make decisions for their lives. The gentlelady time has expired. Leave my body alone! Get out of my vagina! Again

1:52:29 talking about restricting, you know not allowed to do with your body. None of this is true! It's just not true and it's really starting to piss me off And apparently, and well you know why? It's because you and I Mr. Dvorak we get blamed! You and I get blamed for this crap because were men and worse were white men. And we're trying to cause we represent the a-holes here President Obama with a YouTuber very valid question Why is there luxury tax on tampons Good question, but here's the president answer. I don't know anyone who has a period that think it's a luxury Because I think that's fair to say Michelle would agree with you on yes because if something that's part of our everyday lives and is really crucial to our health as women and so I want to know Why do these items continue to be taxed? I have to tell you. I have no idea why states are

1:53:37 would tax these as luxury items. I suspect it's because men were making the laws when those taxes were passed and i think is pretty sensible for... Right, okay so you understand we are the enemy in this and I'm going to push back against this Thanks Obama! That's exactly right. Thanks Obama! Because People are lying. These are real lies and I'm pretty sure that the congresswoman from Florida knows that this is not restricting you from, you can do whatever you want You just don't want to pay for it And when you have something that is paid for and you don't have to think about consequences things get easier! I know I'm trivializing what abortion is like because its not a fun- It's fucked up

1:54:31 But I'm really tired of terrorizing people and calling white men assholes. That is not what's going on, you just have to find a way for it to be paid for the easiest way is to try and not get pregnant. Shit happens all the time but then there are communities, churches... There are million ways to do that! You can save your own money but this is the law That law, I do not believe is going to change. Trump himself has said it's law and he's not gonna do anything about it. That fight may continue but let's at least have some truth on the table It is legal to have abortion in the United States of America How you do it and where you do it and who pays for that is what's on the table. I'm kind of done with it now Jeez... okay

1:55:24 Nobody's gonna disagree with you. All right, well yes as you brought up the entire Congress and every crazy bot out there The bots so I was listening to I've actually was recording these but I couldn't take it So I said this stop record. I kept a couple Chris Hedges has a show on RT Chris hedges is a socialist writer Pulitzer Prize winner dour complainer And he brings on all these kind of socialist characters. He's brought on a black talk show guy from some radio show, and I wish I had written it down...I did write it down but this is an older clip. But the guy was very interesting and he's a socialist and he thinks Obama's just like a stooge of the New World Order. Now are we gonna use New World Order or new liberal order? No, no, I'm not going with liberal. Okay well that's... I mean you know New World Order or globalists

1:56:24 And I prefer globalist. Hey, I can say new globalist order question New World Order did that come from a book? I think it was in a book but it was George HW Bush who popularized it which makes sense So this black guy comes up on Chris Hedges, he makes two interesting I got two interesting clips. The second was more interesting than the first because it brings in a very interesting point that and i've never heard before or since but let's play the weird clip about Obama okay I had three clips ready that's not the one I had. He came in uh in fact two weeks before he took the oath of office

1:57:12 told the New York Times and The Washington Post's editorial board that entitlements, meaning Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid and all of those programs that progressives hold dear—that those programs would be on the chopping block in his administration. So this was his grand plan first to secure the drug industry and of course the insurance industry, and their position in the money stream by passing his Obamacare bill that is to eliminate the threat of single payer. And then move on directly to an austerity domestic policy while at the same time opening up new fronts

1:58:05 in the international imperial war sphere and introducing the Obama doctrine of humanitarian military intervention. So he had a grand scheme, partially... What was it? He said International something War It was really good Was that international what? We have to back it up and play again That was damn good I like this guy we got to find out who he is Yeah he's good Hold on let me listen up ...policy while at the same time opening up new fronts in the International Imperial War. Ooh, International Imperial War! I like that. Yeah

1:58:44 Yeah, this guy's hardcore. But the clip that the next clip is the one that's very interesting because he brings up a unique point I've never heard and now probably never hear again but at neither anyone else has had listeners to The Noah Jenner Show This is the black radio guy takedown of Obama policy and that is that our history conditioned us to look with skepticism At power do not trust whatever power said to not believe what people in power said, because people in power have always lied about us. And we knew that they would lie about other people—especially people of color. And we knew that people in power in the United States were up to no good with their military and their security forces because of the way they treated us. So we were skeptical about U.S. military adventures abroad

1:59:36 And all of the polls, since they've been tracking black folks as a group have shown that black America is the most opposed to U.S. military adventures abroad and the most left-leaning in terms of domestic bread and butter issues. That's a product of our history. But with the ascension of Barack Obama Obama, the first black president—that historical skepticism among black folks. Skepticism about power and the uses of power and the intentions and motives of people in power was weakened. And so we saw in 2013 when President Obama was threatening to do a—an air strike against Syria.

2:00:25 A poll taken about two days before he called off that airstrike showed for the first time in history, that more black folks. That is a greater proportion of black folks were in favor of an air strike against Syria than white people. Wow! He attributed to the whole thing to Obama weakening the resolve of the black people Their traditional resolve, their traditional reluctance to go along with the program. Their traditional hatred of war that traditional this and that weakened by Obama. Huh? That didn't do anybody any favors. That's a take I hadn't never thought of not being black. That was very interesting. Very good. Yeah.

2:01:18 Okay. They brought up Syria there, a quick detour. Tulsi Gabbard went to Syria much to the shock of Jake Tapper! So you were in Syria for four days? Did you meet- Tulsi Gabbard I should probably say for those who don't know she's a Democratic representative from Hawaii. Hawa'i which she pronounces as such. And when Trump was elected, she went straight to Trump Tower and talked to him about Syria and she's very serious. She's a veteran and I like her. So you were in Syria for four days? You have a crush on her? This is the kind of woman I'd like to see president, to be honest

2:02:02 She seems, that's what it is. She seems very honest forthright and she means what she said but she also can kick your ass So you were in Syria for four days did you meet with President Bashar al-Assad? I did You know my reason for going to visit Syria was really because of the suffering of the Syrian people that has been weighing heavily on my heart I wanted to see if there was in some small way a way that I could express the love and the aloha and the care that the American people have. I didn't know that Aloha was a noun as well as a verb it's everything, the Aloha. It means hello it means goodbye... Well she says is the love and the Aloha hey baby I'm not Aloha you all night long A way that I could express the love in the Aloha and they care that the American people have for the people of Syria and to see firsthand what was happening there to see that situation there

2:02:56 Initially, I hadn't planned on meeting him. When the opportunity arose to meet with him, I did so because I felt it's important that if we profess to truly care about the Syrian people, about their suffering, then we've got to be able to meet with anyone that we need to if there is a possibility that we could achieve peace and that's exactly what we talked about. I know the maxim that people say in the military, you don't make peace with your friends you make peace with your enemies but obviously Bashar al-Assad is responsible for thousands of deaths and millions of people being displaced during this five year long civil war did you have any compunctions about meeting with somebody like that giving him

2:03:42 any sort of enhanced credibility because a member of the United States Congress would meet with someone like him. You know, if Jake Tapper was offered an interview with Assad he'd be on the next plane out How can you even think of doing that? He's a killer. You'd think, yeah. He is crazy madman! Whatever you think about President Assad the fact is that he is the president of Syria in order for any peace agreement in order for any possibility of a viable peace agreement to occur There has to be a conversation with him. The Syrian people will determine his outcome and what happens with their government and their future, but our focus—my focus, my commitment is on ending this war that has caused so much suffering to these Syrians' people, to these children, to these families, many of whom I met on this trip

2:04:35 I'll tell you what i heard from the Syrian people. This is good, so this is finally someone goes and talks to people and gets this. That I met with Jake walking down the streets in Aleppo in Damascus hearing from them they expressed happiness and joy at seeing an American walking through their streets. But they expressed a question, they said why is it that the United States its allies in other countries are providing support are providing arms to terrorist groups like al-Nusra, Al Qaeda, Arar al-Sham ISIS who are on the ground there raping kidnapping torturing and killing the Syrian people children men women people of all ages they asked me why is the United States and its allies supporting these terrorist groups who are destroying Syria when it was Al Qaeda who attacked the United States on 9 11 not Syria

2:05:31 I didn't have an answer for them. Obviously the United States government denies providing any sort of help to the terrorist groups that you're talking about, they say they provide help for the rebel groups. Tell us more about... The reality is Jake, and i'm glad you brought up that point because this isn't often talked about thing by people like Adam Kinzinger and others saying we've got to support the moderate rebels every place that I went every person that I spoke too I asked this question to them And without hesitation, they said there are no moderate rebels. She needs an education in pipelines but otherwise she's on the good track as far as I'm concerned and it's interesting how... I'm surprised that Tapper just didn't call the Russians out It's interesting Assad of course is President Assad Trump is not president trump he's illegitimate

2:06:24 It's just these little things, these little bothersome things that crop up from time to time. You know? Little...little things. Here I have an ISO play it Hillary Uh-oh! What she still alive?! Holy crap what's going on? Michelle! Hillary! Hillary! Hillary! Hillary! Hillary! H-H-Hillary Who is that? That's not her No, that was your buddy Ashley or Judd. Oh yeah, Audrey. Audrey Judd! From now on her name is Audrey. Audrey Judd exactly. Okey doke I've been... let's see what else we have? Been following the executive orders nothing really new there a lot of just setting stuff up oh well now we have to play this hold on

2:07:24 We have to play it, although it went pretty viral as the Dutch welcomed President Trump and introduced their country to him. It's worth a play. It's pretty long isn't it? Yeah, about three minutes is too long? No three minutes is a long time I think it's pretty funny. It is very funny but also better with the visuals. You can play some of it but second half that's funny This is a very funny bit. I have to say, you know, I thought it was a great way to insult Trump if you're going to insult Trump at least actually be funny don't just

2:08:05 You know, call them a tangerine or a Cheeto head or whatever they're doing. That's not funny! And imagine you have to go all the way to The Netherlands to get humor? This is what's puzzling... Dear Mr President, welcome to this introduction video about The Netherlands It's gonna be a great video it's going to be absolutely fantastic Our founding father was William of Orange. I think they missed the real opportunity in this bit here, you know The Dutch royal family is of orange. I mean what an opportunity to write a joke I thought that was I thought that gag was there when he said William of Orange at that? That was the reference

2:08:45 That's okay, but they could have done more with it. Oh yeah, I bet that but that's their actual name of orange gonna be That was the reference that was a call back. I didn't think that Our founding father was William of Orange who fought against the Spanish the Spanish total scumbags They fought against us for 80 years But they couldn't beat us couldn't do it total That's the best lie the 80 year war We speak Dutch it's the best language in Europe we've got all the best words all the other languages failed Danish total disaster Is not even a real language. It's fake. It's a fake language

2:09:31 We've got Pony Park Slaghouden. These are things you'd have to see the visuals, but I'm surprised you didn't get the originals that didn't have the laugh track Oh no this is... No! I like the laugh track actually Anyway- I hate laugh tracks in general It's in the show notes Everyone should definitely watch it Yeah And our show notes are virus free Most of the time there's maybe a virus of the mind hiding in there. The show notes are... That's always, that's this whole show? Yeah you can get to the show notes from noagendashow.com just look for the link says full on show notes 898 dot no agendanotes dot com I have another ISO Really Wow! The end-of-show mix is gonna be great today WOW!

2:10:25 Thank you, John. These ISOs are of just they're just invaluable we have no idea how great they are all right Let's go to Germany for a moment Just got to get out of the United States of Gitmo nation The German government and the Federal Criminal Police Office have issued a warning that terrorists could carry out a chemical weapons attack. The warning divided into several worrying scenarios, the report describes what terrorists might use to carry out chemical attacks including poisoning drinking water and food supplies Possible attacks on chemical plants and chemical transit facilities are also considered high risk. The report presents detailed descriptions of the threats and the extent to which security authorities, hospitals and rescue services are prepared. As unlikely as these scenarios may seem some recent revelations about security in Europe are causing concern

2:11:16 Last year in Brussels, police found a bomb-making factory full of chemicals during raids in the wake of major terror attacks. What's more, a few days later it turned out two nuclear power plant workers left the country and fled to Syria to join ISIL. And in Germany alarm bells rang when military equipment was stolen from an armory on US military base in Stuttgart. Only recently German authorities lost track of three Islamists that had been deemed a threat. I don't remember any reporting of any of those facts about chemical weapons that were found, did you remember that? Oh yeah! I remember the...I remember that specifically and also remember about this armory, American Armory that was ripped off, it was about a year and half ago. Yeah, I do remember that. These are all old reports. Well but they're now using it to terrorize people maybe rightly so. The Spiegel headline Donald Trump in the New World Order since we were talking

2:12:14 And here's what they claim. The inauguration of Donald Trump heralds the arrival of a new world order! The West is weaker than ever, and rising American nationalism poses a threat both to Germany's economy and the European Union. Everything is about the European Union. Yeah, well if you jump to jump the little water thing there and play a little bit of Parliament Which I as you know? I'm now monitoring mm-hmm at least question time with the Prime Minister. Here is Angus Robertson they've just hit up Scotland King of Scotland and he is slamming butt slam oh no

2:13:00 The United States. The European Union, which we're still part of has amongst the highest food safety standards anywhere in the world and we are proud on our continent to have public national health systems. The United States on the other hand is keen to have health systems which are fully open to private competition they want to export genetically modified organisms beef raised with growth hormones and chicken meat washed with chlorinated water Will the Prime Minister tell President Trump that she is not prepared to lower our food and safety standards or to open health systems for privatisation? Or does she believe that this is a price worth paying for a UK-US trade deal

2:13:44 We will be looking for a UK-US trade deal that improves trade between our two countries, that will bring prosperity and growth to this country. That will ensure we can bring jobs to this country as well and I can assure the right honourable gentleman in doing that we'll put UK interests and values first Wait a minute, UK first? Is that what she's saying? Yes. That's not- How come when Trump says America first everyone gets bent out of shape? Sieg Heil! Tries am Nee! Well she'd be great, she can beat Trump's Goebbels Could be. Yeah, well I was listening to one...I think it was Democracy Now! or one of these panels but there was our friend Naomi Klein Oh yes The never-ending socialist. I didn't realize how much of a globalist she is She's also part of the New World Order globalists She wants to...she has no borders, no nations No borders, no nations And i just extracted that from this particular little spiel she does here where she laments the fact

2:14:43 And I think rightly so, nobody else wants to even discuss it. That Trump got elected by appealing to the worker. The American worker has been discarded by the Democrat party And he used a lot of the phraseology and rhetoric, use that word. Rhetoric of the worker, you know, American worker. He used union rhetoric to get these people to come on board. Union rhetoric? Yes, just union rhetoric. We need more jobs, we need America...we should be building more factories in United States and all this stuff you don't get here.

2:15:21 And so this is all union stuff. So she is trying to rationalize why this is bad, and so she comes at the conclusion...and this is very interesting to listen to. She comes with a conclusion that the workers themselves never took their proper tact. They were always ultra-nationalists as she likes to call it, ultra-nationalist means you're They were always alternate, and they should have been more international in their arguments for freeing the workers. In other words, they should have been... The workers who had been screwed by globalism, they've been screwed by it- Is she a member of the World Workers Party? Is that what she's a member of now? No, you'd think so. You would think so but no. But she knows they've been screwed but she wants them to adopt their methodologies promoting workers rights in China. I mean this is crazy!

2:16:13 Ready? Yeah. Okay And I think until there is a very clear alternative that will continue to resonate despite all of the obvious hypocrisies that we've been delineating all day It does make me think about something else though, you know, I have been involved in the free trade battle battles, you know for a couple of decades now. You know taking on everything going back to the original free trade agreement with Canada and then NAFTA and the creation of the WTO and all that but I was never comfortable with the way in which particularly the US labor movement used America first ism right? And did not use... Hold on! America first ism?! Now we've made that an ism!? Well she has!

2:17:03 used America first ism right and did not use the language of internationalism including employing easy xenophobic language about the Chinese and opposing these deals on the basis of this easy nationalism. And unfortunately that I think moral moral failure, that moral failure to stand up for principles of international workers' rights, international environmental standards instead of just this easy hyper-nationalism is now something that Trump can and is picking up. We're seeing it right now. Some of these messages aren't that different than the message we heard from unions. I know I'm not going to make some people happy saying that but... It's too familiar! You know, the more I think about this

2:17:55 The more I realize how I really didn't see how far reaching this no nations, no borders has gotten into the Into the minds of people. I think all the face baggers if you could boil them down in a pot Mm-hmm The residue that grew at the bottom would be no nations, No borders Yeah part of that is that you know peace love unicorns rainbows? I understand all that but did I think people well your eye comes back to education and Most of the young people now, they're not taught civics. They don't know how the Constitution works. They don't know how the government works. They don't know how their local government works. They don't know anything. They just know what memes are being pushed around by people that do know these things and they're trying...and they're being manipulated. The problem with it with the other side of the equation here—and we're gonna put ourselves on the nationalist side as opposed to the globalist side—we don't want

2:18:51 I'm saying, you could say whatever you want. But i'm saying that I don't want no borders and no nations! It doesn't work! No it has never worked and its not going to work in our at least during this era or the next one. Well now that the Schengen agreement has been suspended for another six months...in EU they have borders again That was the whole idea. The European Union project is a great example of no nations, no borders... How is it working out? Not so well! The Brits are out they want to get out okay Parliament will have to decide I think Parliament will say yes by the way I don't think this is do-over that we've been looking for Well I'm not taking your side on that yet It's an opportunity for a do over but I'm not sure that's gonna happen Well We'll see But this also the main gripe everyone has

2:19:44 Yeah, certainly in the UK. What was it? Oh well we didn't need freedom of movement. You can move you just have to show your paper to show who... Yeah, you gotta get some paper. ...you can move the same with oh what a... I should mention that if you look on a graph of world trade, you will see there was a big spike after 1900. I think it may be peaked around 1910 or so where there were no passports in that era Around the turn of that century which is like the turn of this century. It's funny every hundred years we see this But during that era there was no passports there was open borders it was just pretty much There were nations, but there wasn't it was like the Schengen thing right and That's how World War one got started because now there were no borders yeah, there's no borders

2:20:33 Is that so you end up with the world war one and that's what's gonna happen again? And then what is the first thing they did in Paris 19 was it 1912 Well, the war wasn't ended around 1918. I mean now we know What was the pair of them when the big Paris agreements when they redrew all the borders? Yeah, there's a great documentary that we've talked about yeah. I know we watched it a number of times to try to get it straight And we still don't really know but it was called Paris 19 something 1919 or 1918 something like that I'd have to look it up. Yeah, come health guard now when I will find out because that they really explained it well

2:21:09 But so we have the same situation, duplicate situation and it just doesn't work. And yeah but the kids are dumb they don't have any sense of history they didn't know... They don't even know when World War II... You ask a guy in the street when was World War Two? And they haven't got a clue who won! They don't know. So here's some feedback I just received from an a-hole in the chatroom. Notice that neither Adam nor John offer any justification for the nation state system." I think we do provide a justification because the borderless system doesn't work! You have a class of cultures, but you had a development of very distinct cultures

2:21:49 after hundreds of years, this is the problem. I mean this is what they wanna do, they wanna eliminate war and I don't blame them but these distinct cultures had cropped up in these countries that became national country like Ireland, Scotland, England and they developed a kind of hatred for their neighbors over the years from border disputes and other reasons trade and other things and just certain you know there are certain cultures that do not like other cultures. They just don't like them, they don't like the way they look, they don't like their Slovenian-ness, there may be slobs, there maybe a million things you don't like about but you don't like them or like the Russians are hated by a lot of specific countries. And another example which you've brought up many times watch a bunch of Chinese in America

2:22:39 And watch them eat. You want to throw up when you see how they eat? It's just their culture, their like... Yeah, they eat with their mouth open. You know it's disgusting for us but this culture yeah it's a cultural difference And so these states emerged and they developed, and they became kind of inbred culturally with themselves. The French being a perfect example. And to just say that well we don't need these borders, we don't need this, the borders were there for protecting the culture from other cultures coming in. And when you have Muslims who for example believe that their religion and government is part of the same thing

2:23:20 It's a kind of thinking that doesn't really work in many Western cultures. It works fine when you have a Muslim minority and some place like California, got a couple of the Shabab places that you can go to is run by some Muslims but it's not a big deal. But after 16-17 years in the Netherlands you see that the cultural... well of course the multicultural society which failed by admission of the people who put it in place, the European leaders It's a disaster. It's a disaster and how sad would it be if we really had one big world, okay? We're all brown and everything is kind of the same. Well who needs to go on vacation? I think that's enough. There is no plan. You have no fun. I think that's a different argument The thing to look at in terms of this is looking at the white relations with the blacks in the United States has never been fully resolved And there just...we've been living together

2:24:15 for hundreds of years, over a hundred years out of slavery, three or four generations. And it's still have these people moaning and groaning about one thing or another, we're griping in this racism. Not what there used to be in the 30s obviously but its there and how do you expect? I mean that's with people who have been together for a long time as pals and fought wars together help each other in many situations pray together love together lots of stuff Yeah, well how are they supposed to open the borders in Europe for God's sake where you have extreme differences? I mean there is between the German and the French culture is outrageous. Well all of it all this It's all and the Brits and that's different from everybody yeah The Netherlands no You know somewhere There's a genesis to this

2:25:15 And I'm talking about the United States. In Europe, I think I understand you know you get a couple of wars like well let's try something else although they've been trying to say worse things. Yeah people stealing rich guys stuff. I've said it that's the only reason the elites got sick of it but somehow and I'm gonna have to say the internet accelerated this idea of everything is fair or the world is beautiful life is fantastic that's being taught somehow And, you know... I'm complicit. You're complicit with our kids and my kid's 26 she still needs help from time to time. When i was 26? Uh-uh! No nothing. I'm sure you didn't get anything from your parents either did you?" Well I did get some of the school system. I did learn how the systems work

2:26:05 And I'm not oblivious...and I've never been oblivious to the idea of one world government or what, because they came out of Berkeley. University of California and so they kind of were pushing that kind of agenda but you get a clue after awhile and he said wait a minute especially if you travel traveling really helps a lot most of these people have never been anywhere where they go on tour let's say. Yeah, to resort in Mexico Yeah, classic. Mexico's great! I've been to a resort. Yeah, I went to Cabo. Fantastic. We're gonna take a break and want to introduce one more new meme that is important about lying which has been part of the theme of this show and this is now being reported by Bloomberg and the question is why Trump staff is lying?

2:26:55 So this of course references Sean Spicer and the inauguration crowd, but it'll be used over and over again. Do you know why? What this meme is...and I just saw on the face bag, I saw the artist here also propagate this. No, I don't. You're probably ahead of me on that one because you're on the face bags It is a loyalty test According to Bloomberg, by requiring... Listen to this. By requiring subordinates to speak untruths a leader can undercut their independent standing including their standing with the public with the media and with other members of the administration that makes those individuals grow more dependent on the leader and less likely to mount independent rebellions against the structure of command

2:27:39 Promoting such chains of lies, chains of lies... damn it's just filled with nudity. That is a good one! Today is the day for titles! Chains of Lies! Oh my goodness! Promoting such chains of lies as a classic tactic when a leader distrust his subordinates and expects to continue to distrust them in the future So it's a loyalty test, especially frequent for new hires at the beginning of new regimes when the least is known about the propensity of subordinates. You don't have to view President Trump as necessarily making a lot of complicated calculations rather he may be simply replicating tactics found useful in his earlier business and media careers and this is now being propagated It is a loyalty test

2:28:27 Do you remember, there was something I was thinking about during this little tirade. That's-I don't think that catching on by the way. There is something about it and then I'll come up with it later. Passing thought. Will you take from me that I'm seeing it on the face bag? And therefore make catch on? Yeah absolutely! Okay. I just said but just saying I can see it catching on in general public that means haven't seen it drift over to Twitter Oh its all over the Twitters. I haven't seen any of this. That's dumb Well, Bloomberg is dumb. They reported- Bloomberg's a Trump hater from the get go if you remember. This is not Bloomberg the man this is Bloomberg the... No but it's a reflection of everything. You know there's a reflection that goes up and down and up and down that I had a thing I was going to do probably on the next newsletter There's this woman who's a PR woman for The Financial Times

2:29:20 and she also organizes events for the Financial Times. And her Twitter feed is wall-to-wall Trump hate, and when I see that this is reflective of an organization. The secretary you run into at the bottom of an organization... That's true. Is your boss in a funny form. She'll take on the style of management, the attitude everything if she's friendly very helpful great person you can be sure that the boss is probably a pretty good guy too, or a pretty good girl. And the point is that when I see this as saying oh well I haven't put this on the linear report because I'm gonna redo that in the form of globalists versus nationalists and The Financial Times always obviously on that side of the equation Trump's the enemy. Yeah yeah

2:30:16 In conclusion, the overall picture is this. The Trump administration trusts neither its own appointees nor its own supporters and it's creating... This is crazy! And it's creating a situation where that lack of trust is reciprocal. That is of all things a strategy for getting things done and these first 100 days are going to be a doozy." That's a financial term by the way, doozy D-O-O-Z-Y? Yeah, D-O-O... Or as...? No with a Z. D-O-O-Z-Y It's gonna be a doozy Well there you go! Lies is a loyalty test I'm gonna show my support by donating to KnowAgenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah that'd be fab Let's start with Chris Waaahhh... Wapcaplets

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2:40:52 Really? Thanks Obama. Holy crap, you're kidding me that I didn't hear about this Yeah it just came out this morning I got a kick out of it. Damn So maybe he was involved in the hit Yes he was definitely involved in the hit No but I mean maybe Obama's like hey well Hey Barry, hey Barry You gotta eat I've got one...I've got a clip here I want to play and uh It won't be obvious what I'm bitching about until The clips over its only a piece of a clip But this is PBS defers to WAPO Okay, WAPO. I'm hearing this constantly. I'm sorry? WAPO Washington Post. Yeah, Washington WAPO. A spokesman for the Trump transition team at the EPA did say agency scientists will likely have their research reviewed on a case-by-case basis before being released publicly

2:41:43 Juliet Alperin has been looking into these developments for the Washington Post. She joins us now, so Juliet a certain amount of confusion at this point how much do we know about whether the administration is attempting to silence these agencies? Silence the agencies! Now here's what I'm starting to notice especially with PBS now you see it with the networks a little bit but generally speaking most in the networks and PBS used to be this way have their own reporters doing their own reporting They're not, the Washington Post is like in the building at PBS. It's like why do they call it Washington Post? Oh really I didn't realize that. They're constantly in there or as the Washington Post reporter they have New York Times reporters and Washington Post reporters almost exclusively all the time on PBS instead of doing their own reporting. I don't think it's a news organization anymore

2:42:36 I don't think they're doing any more than, you know in terms of original work. Original reporting...I think we probably do more." Well but here's the crazy thing! They're reporting on WAPO and WAPO is reporting on BuzzFeed there's your chain of lies! It's unbelievable. Call back. Where is their pride? Yeah they don't have the budget to get all this money they get from all these giant organizations and Burlington Northern and Buffett and everybody else but what are they doing with this money I don't see them hiring original work. They do a couple of special things once in awhile where guy goes out and visits the school, and they talk and talk and talk but just this is not the same way they... Why is The Wapo? The Wapo! We'll just call it The Wapo Yeah, The Wapo Well, I think there's a couple of things. Umm..The Wapo has a name. The Wapo is not the New York Times which means there's less elitism

2:43:31 Which, you know... You can talk to a WAPO journalist kind of on the same level but in New York Times journalists they have that air. You know your buddies! You can't just talk to a New York Times journalist. They bring him on, they bring David Sanger on a lot and other people... Yeah but they can do more with the Wapos And of course I think you know they're all looking for tickets to La-La Land or whatever you know whatever Bezos is in charge of So i'm having trouble watching La-La Land? I have not uh what you mean the movie yeah did you go to the theater theater I have a screener oh okay

2:44:13 And I haven't seen it, so. Well why don't you get a screener? You used to get screeners do you still get them? No no good screening now I'm getting nothing but usually you don't like it you think it's good? I don't like it hmm maybe gets better I don't know I couldn't really if it doesn't mean I don't know why is the greatest thing and says sliced bread the way they're having an ad only even like any of the awards nominations or anything for all these movies they seem dull yeah this seems like a really bad year for the Oscars There's no successful movies, they're all little dipshit movies about somebody and they're all sad. Sad! The white man is beating up someone and they should know a lot of that kind of thing. And then La la Land just is kinda like a corn bowl musical that doesn't make any sense on the big screen. Well you know I do like musicals so... Yeah I do too if you go to Broadway play and get to listen to music, get to watch it, feel it but this

2:45:06 There's something stilted about musicals on the film. It just seems unnatural I was looking for that clip of me on MSNBC when they called me when Michael Jackson died where i said, you know why doesn't anyone consider he was murdered and they hung up on me Yeah, I can't find that clip anymore. Of course not the CIA took it but Michael Jackson's daughter Paris Jackson Said the same thing in Rolling Stone magazine yeah says hey and the family knows it the fans everybody knows my dad was killed Yeah, yeah sure they do. Yeah and I was hung up on yeah, man that thing you were hung up on what network is that again? MSNBC oh yeah of course it's like okay and then the producer didn't even come on just slammed the phone down. I also learned something else they just hung up but I mean they literally disconnected. Oh yeah they disconnected hated me

2:46:00 I learned what EMILY's List stands for. I didn't know this, I've been looking at all these organizations. Well EMILY's list is such a bunch of stooges from the Democratic Party. Emily is an acronym. I thought it was a person? It's an acronym! I thought it was too! Yep! Okay ready for some learning? I got my pen. Early money is like yeast...I'm not kidding Let me see what that, I'll explain what that means. Early money is like yeast? It stinks?! Canadians always like to bitch about our money stinking! It makes it grow. Yeast makes things grow and i guess there's some yeast because... Not if its just yeast

2:46:49 I didn't make up the name. I just thought it was interesting if you'd like to discuss it with them, I can put you in touch. Why does it have to be early money? Don't you think money coming later would also be like East? No! That would be like... Just money? ...just crust. Yeah. Then there should be the Milly list then. Telling ya that's what it stands for. I didn't know that as I learned this. And I think everyone has now been we always have to have one thing on this show although he had one earlier about That gets people, goes ah it was worth listening. Oh well that will be this clip then. Kellyanne Conway doing stand up. Oh yeah. You saw it? No I'm not going to play that. I would say this- I hate this by the way! Some of you used to just shut up and not say I've seen it now every clip I have is I've seen it or you haven't Yeah well let me because I want to do a preface to it from perspective her first joke was the best she went downhill she's reading all these jokes

2:47:46 And she was at some charity event. She wasn't like doing open mic or anything. That's alright, I won't play it. It's okay fine. Fine move on what do you got? Let's just play something else No no play play. I'm not going to! It's not worth it. I'm a big fan of hers. You know... It's not funny now. Thank you for telling the jokes telling what the who needs the clip?! Who needs the clip!? Okay, are you gonna be like that yeah well the show is almost over so it's fine Pipeline and Trump Pipeline and Trump. Here we go in an expedited manner either pipelines approval could still take months or years The Standing Rock Sioux tribe has fought the pipeline construction saying it crosses what they call traditional tribal land

2:48:34 The whole world's watching you! ...might lead to a catastrophic leak in the Missouri River. We have to start building awareness... Chairman Dave Archambault II says his efforts to reach out to the new administration were ignored. Were you surprised at this move? I wasn't surprised. I figured that he was gonna try to do something because I know what drives this man It's a it's all about money These activists vowed us stay here and block the pipeline mr Trump owned up to $50,000 of stock in the company building the pipeline A spokesman said he sold it last year But Scott we won't know that for sure until he files financial disclosure statements in May of 2018

2:49:18 Who cares? It's $50,000 with a stock that he may or may not have owned of the company. I wish they would spend as much time on Warren Buffett and the loss he will take when he is not shipping oil on his trains. That's a story! Yeah it's a story... Well you can't do that because all these places are sponsored by The Railroad Company Oh that's right! So I guess we can't report on them. Nooo! Oh, that's horrible. Advertising skews coverage I know people don't want to believe it but it's a fact yeah anyway this guy goes on he says I reached out and they wouldn't return my calls nobody knows who this guy is so then I know why he's doing this because he loves money you know he doesn't know the guy this nonsense these reports are stupid all right why'd you take us out with China cuz I want to hear those clips that you have on Trump okay well this is RT unless you wanna do something else yeah Kellyanne Conway I wanna hear her stand up

2:50:17 The China stuff can wait. Alright, Kelly, it's not that good and you already said it. No I... It was true You just ruined my setup! Hi everybody hey thanks so much for having me here tonight before I get started want to tell you the funniest thing happened to me is when you have one of those days where not one but two things that never ever happens happens to you I'm walking down the street I look up and I see Haley's comments I get back to the office and I'm accurately quoted in a Ralph Hale article I mean you thought that was their best joke the first yeah, that was your best joke oh man. I have one more But everybody's wondering about my leg first thing yes, tell me what happened to your leg? I'm like well everybody heard us doing this comedy show and they like break a leg so we did

2:51:07 And what's sad is then she flubs the and they think blondes are dumb, and they can Yeah, she that joke obviously this is written for her by somebody I don't think she did any of these jokes. She might have done one or two. She has no delivery man This is horrible well. No. She's not funny in that regard She's funny in the way that she's trying to be funny. I think that was kind of amusing yeah, and That broken leg joke Don't know maybe the sum she drew that is so bad that somebody should be ashamed of themselves for writing it. It's pretty bad It really is Okay, all right I think we should do I got her We gotta do some quick Yeah, we guys put a turnaround you go to the airport British Airways decides to be an hour early well You know what? I say That's right

2:52:05 Okay, everybody so we have a few days until our next program that will be episode eight niner Niner yeah, holy night or niners. It's good time to donate yes Donate to no agenda We have a lot of end-of-show clips and pleased to say some really good stuff And I've started putting credits for those creating them in the show notes well does it tastic? Yeah, we need to start doing well deserve well deserved All right, everybody. Thank you very much. Remember for the show on Sunday we do need your support advertising colludes corrupts We don't have it we have you our producers remember us at Dvorak org slash na until then coming to you from the crackpot condo here and The skyscraper in downtown Austin Tejas FEMA region 6 on the map in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley way of very little left to say him John C DeVore Act will be back on Sunday right here on no agenda

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