Episode 857 · Sunday, 4 September 2016

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Federal investigators release redacted notes on the Clinton email server while diplomatic friction in Hangzhou overshadows the formal ratification of the Paris climate agreement.

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About this episode

The FBI released a 47-page redacted report on Friday afternoon detailing the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server, revealing that staff members occasionally destroyed mobile devices with hammers. FBI Director James Comey previously described the handling of these secrets as extremely careless, yet the report indicates Clinton claimed she did not recall specific security briefings regarding the drone program or classification markings. These findings surfaced as the State Department struggled to provide specific dates for Clinton’s briefings, including the day she received news of Muammar Gaddafi’s death via a Blackberry message.

Diplomatic tensions flared at the G20 summit in Hangzhou after Chinese officials refused to provide a rolling staircase for Air Force One, forcing President Obama to exit from the rear of the aircraft. National Security Advisor Susan Rice engaged in a verbal altercation with Chinese security on the tarmac while Obama and Xi Jinping formally ratified the Paris climate agreement. Meanwhile, the Irish government appealed an EU ruling ordering Apple to pay 13 billion euros in back taxes, and Samsung issued a global recall for the Galaxy Note 7 due to exploding batteries. In the United States, President Obama signed an executive order extending the national emergency declared on September 14, 2001, for another year.

Adam Curry celebrates his 52nd birthday with a global donor roll call and a coded message from Tina Snyder referencing Thor and Tiger Beat. John C. Dvorak reminisces about Silicon Spin with guest Max Keiser while the duo analyzes a viral video of a Lyft passenger berating a driver over a Hawaiian bobblehead. The segment concludes with a look at the historical necessity of the guillotine as an automation tool for mass executions during the French Revolution.


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CHAPTER 01 / 51 Discussion

Adam Curry 52nd Birthday Celebration and Brazil Interview

Adam Curry celebrates his 52nd birthday and the beginning of his 53rd orbit while broadcasting from Austin, Texas. John C. Dvorak joins from Northern Silicon Valley to discuss show logistics and a recent interview featuring Glenn Greenwald. The hosts highlight Greenwald's insights on Brazil and multinational corporations' lack of national allegiance.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· austin· silicon valley· glenn greenwald· brazil· birthday

00:00 I can't do this anymore. I've already cut off 20 heads, it's hurting my arm! Adam Curry John C Devorah Sunday September 4th 2016 This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 857 This is no agenda Kicking off day one Day one of my 53rd orbit and broadcasting live from the capital, The Drone Star State here in Austin, Tejas. We're in FEMA Region 6 In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where I'll be the first to wish you a happy birthday. I'm John C. DeVore. You're getting there. Yeah, you see the newsletter? You see that great picture of the cake? Yes and in fact I think you tweeted that too! I loved it! That's nice yeah my...I'm on fire!! The joke of it is, the irony, the humor..yeah that cake only has 52 candles Well what's the joke of it? I'm 52

01:01 Are you 53 now? I'm 52. I said you're beginning your 50 my 53rd orbit yes, okay Well then there's no joke it's not that funny makes it even more ironic oh Yeah, yeah well tonight is my real celebration what are you gonna do? Oh? No Tina has a whole thing planned for me up at she does Yes sir II Is he gonna entail of bow Candles, I'm sure. Candles yes! Around the bathtub. This is going to be a celebration she's going to do for her. Hey hey don't knock it man. Man...don't knock it

01:44 All right, well there's plenty of stuff to talk about. There is a lot of good stuff! Yeah I was quite surprised actually when i really got into it last night... I will say that just as kind of an entremont we haven't even started the show yet Well we kind of have but yeah I found the, one of our producers also does a podcast and he had a podcast with Glenn. He went to- Oh yeah! I saw this. Now this is Tilo. He's the German cat. He's a German guy? Yeah, he always has fun interviews with... goes all over the world to interview people for his show. It was good. Yes it was video podcast. So he's on YouTube. I tweeted it and we should probably put that linked in the show notes because you want them visit Glenn Greenwald

CHAPTER 02 / 51 Discussion

Glenn Greenwald, Multinational Corporations, and Rio Monkey Incident

Glenn Greenwald discusses the shift from American-centric manufacturing to multinational corporations that prioritize low-cost labor in China and Mexico over domestic job creation. The segment includes a humorous anecdote from Greenwald's life in Rio de Janeiro involving a monkey and his sanctuary of dogs. The hosts critique the interview's tone regarding Donald Trump.

glenn greenwald· multinational corporations· brazil· rio de janeiro· ford· steel manufacturers

02:31 And Greenwald had, for one thing he talked to me really had a great background on Brazil. I think people should watch that he has a little here's a short little clip of him just wrapping up the way things are. Hold on a second let me just get all your things set up here okay yes here we go Here we go. Greenwald? Whereas, you know 50 years ago you had things called American corporations that did manufacturing in the US and created jobs in the U.S., and were identifiable as American now you have what are called multinational corporations with very little allegiance to any specific country so if an American company so-called like Ford or steel manufacturers that have provided the backbone of the America middle class forever

03:31 can move to Korea or China or Mexico and create factories there at a much lower cost in terms of living. Before you move on, the one thing I noticed about this interview was I agreed with pretty much everything you said, except when it came to Trump man. He just would not get off the he's insane, he's mentally ill... And dangerous! He kind of seems to be beside himself because he hates Hillary too. What are you gonna do? But i think that thing that made this interview worthwhile is this clip which

04:09 I think kind of the theme of the whole interview and it kind of summarized life in Rio. This is the clip, Greenwald versus The Monkey. Because the founders of the country were largely rich white male property owners not largely, exclusively rich white male property owners. Hold on one second. All of a sudden i have flashbacks with the boys at Brazil. Rosebud! Rosebud. Yeah. He's been gloriously quiet, so... We're in our first outbreak. It's fine. Weren't they nice to you when you came in? Were they nice to you earlier? Hold on one second. But he has about 30 dogs doesn't he? Some kind of sanctuary? Six. Oh the monkey is here. Monkey.

05:16 I guess there are certain ways... There are certain ways how to get rid of the monkey, I guess. Well you feed the monkey and then you spray the dogs with water Yeah, I made that an ISO for you for the end of the show. Well see the ISO is good! I don't know if that was a great clip though... No-okay well In fact hold on! I think have a special award for ya That Clip Sucked

05:56 Thank you. Well, you feed the monkey and then you spray the dogs with water That's our words get that by the way what he's talking about what you mean if why should we why would you feed them? Monkey yeah I don't know maybe it's code John maybe we don't know maybe it's code for something or misunderstanding Feed the monkeys and spray the dogs with water is beautiful oh My my my my Yeah, I like the clip suck thing that's good. It's good isn't it yeah? That show best. I think that's someone says Moses Hall He's done a lot of clips for us these he's a clean my style like about Moses this stuff is its quick Yeah, yeah, and it's boom-boom-boom in an hour. Yeah Yeah very nice Hey hey, I was right about something for once

CHAPTER 03 / 51 Discussion

Naked Donald Trump Statue Auction Estimates

A life-size statue of a naked Donald Trump is scheduled for auction in Los Angeles with an estimated value between $10,000 and $20,000. Proceeds from the sale are designated for an immigration advocacy organization. The hosts revisit a previous debate regarding the production cost versus the actual market value of these fiberglass figures.

donald trump· los angeles· auction· immigration advocacy· statues· market value

06:49 You write about it a lot. Don't say stuff like that! I was right about something that I argued with you, that's why I'm gonna say it. Ohhhh...you're just gonna gloat? Yeah. You recall we had conversation about the value of those Trump dolls and statues that were placed everywhere? Yes, right! Do you remember what I said it was worth and what YOU said it was worth?! I, your number was bigger than mine. Yeah. I'd said 20 grand and you said couple thousand? Yeah if i figure about two to five maybe now that may have been production cost but say no there's no way those are fiberglass those things probably cost about less than 500 bucks at the most right so we were talking about actual market value

07:37 Yes. If you want one of those life-size statues of naked Donald Trump, and who doesn't? Good news! And who doesn't? Auctioned off in Los Angeles in October it's estimated to fetch between $10,000 and $20,000. A portion of that money will go towards an immigration advocacy organization the statue is propped up in LA Seattle San Francisco Cleveland and New York Sure it will See these are the people that took my advice and stole things off the street Yeah, and I know because we talked about Antique Roadshow. And I think I nailed the value. I think that was spot-on Well it depends it has its up for auction and that's the estimated value many times They don't go for that or sometimes they go for a lot more. Oh yeah We'll see so you never know as true. I think is still up for grabs The answer to the question on this podcast we love to do media deconstruction But also sometimes we just like to go straight to the source so you can hear it

CHAPTER 04 / 51 Discussion

John Kerry Suggests Limited Media Coverage of Terrorism

Secretary of State John Kerry suggests that the media could perform a public service by reducing the volume of coverage dedicated to terrorist acts. Kerry argues that if the media covered these events less, the public would be less aware of the "noise" created by terrorists. The hosts interpret this as a desire to minimize distractions from the administration's main agenda.

john kerry· terrorism· media coverage· state department· propaganda· news cycle

08:36 John Kerry, I know you don't have to get all mad that i'm playing a John Kerry clip but it's only 16 seconds. No? That is not possible! Yeah and he had a suggestion for the media as it pertains to terrorism because you know terrorism is a thorn in the eye of this administration. I don't know if they're really worried about or care that people are getting killed but certainly distracts from their main agenda It was very annoying so Kerry had some choice words to say If you decide one day that you're going to be a terrorist and you're willing to kill yourself, go out and kill some people. You can make some noise Perhaps the media would do us all a service if they didn't cover it quite as much People wouldn't know what's going on Yeah exactly

09:23 Perhaps the media shouldn't cover it so much people wouldn't know what's going on that way. Yeah, I think that's exactly the way it should be in Mr.. Kerry He said people What was the thing? It was the kicker at the end he says The media should all play to get the media shouldn't cover it so much that way people wouldn't know what's going on If you saw it one day, you're gonna be a terrorist and if you're willing to kill yourself You can go out and kill some people. You can make some noise Perhaps the media would do us all a service if they didn't cover it quite as much People wouldn't know what's going on Okay, you're getting there it's all that was a borderline clip of the day I Understand you don't want to give out a full-on clip for the day right off the bat But I'm not going to I thought that was really good. That was a good one Yes made me laugh too bad the quality with some crappy yeah and that I can't help oh

10:24 Oh, so there was a... I think you might have even put it in the newsletter. Or did you email it to? I don't remember where I first heard about it but there was a... we have the G20 in Hangzhou. Hangzhou is it hangzhou? Hangzhou! Boy, there was some trouble upon arrival. And this has really been very little about this G20 summit on...it's certainly in Gitmo nation proper here in the US and just haven't seen a lot of just not a lot of news reports. There's been newspaper coverage and that's when I wrote about the...they apparently when they rolled a big 747 and the Chinese weren't gonna roll up a big ladder for the president

CHAPTER 05 / 51 Discussion

G20 Summit Altercations and Paris Climate Agreement Ratification

Diplomatic tensions surfaced at the G20 summit in Hangzhou, China, when Chinese officials refused to provide a rolling staircase for Air Force One, forcing President Obama to exit from the rear of the aircraft. National Security Advisor Susan Rice was involved in a verbal altercation with Chinese security on the tarmac. Despite the friction, Obama and Xi Jinping formally ratified the Paris climate agreement.

g20 summit· hangzhou· barack obama· susan rice· xi jinping· paris climate agreement

09:23 Perhaps the media shouldn't cover it so much people wouldn't know what's going on that way. Yeah, I think that's exactly the way it should be in Mr.. Kerry He said people What was the thing? It was the kicker at the end he says The media should all play to get the media shouldn't cover it so much that way people wouldn't know what's going on If you saw it one day, you're gonna be a terrorist and if you're willing to kill yourself You can go out and kill some people. You can make some noise Perhaps the media would do us all a service if they didn't cover it quite as much People wouldn't know what's going on Okay, you're getting there it's all that was a borderline clip of the day I Understand you don't want to give out a full-on clip for the day right off the bat But I'm not going to I thought that was really good. That was a good one Yes made me laugh too bad the quality with some crappy yeah and that I can't help oh

10:24 Oh, so there was a... I think you might have even put it in the newsletter. Or did you email it to? I don't remember where I first heard about it but there was a... we have the G20 in Hangzhou. Hangzhou is it hangzhou? Hangzhou! Boy, there was some trouble upon arrival. And this has really been very little about this G20 summit on...it's certainly in Gitmo nation proper here in the US and just haven't seen a lot of just not a lot of news reports. There's been newspaper coverage and that's when I wrote about the...they apparently when they rolled a big 747 and the Chinese weren't gonna roll up a big ladder for the president

11:06 So, they made him get out the back with the hired help. I think it...the situation was a little different is it was where Air Force One was going to be positioned and the Chinese said no-no you can't park here you have to move and I guess eventually we said uh no we're not gonna move when they said okay then you're not getting stairs Because they had, of course the way we do it is we roll it right up with the front door of Air Force One ready to accept the stairs and then you will roll down into the acceptance crowd and the red carpet. And this clip you can't really hear very well but in the beginning you hear this Chinese official

11:45 yelling at a White House woman who was, and she's we're standing under the wing of a United States aircraft. And he says yeah that's fine but you're now at airport our airport in our country China You do what I tell you to do and apparently Susan Susan Rice was brought to tears although it's not exactly reported here but they got ahold of her too the twerp Here we go nothing like a brush up at the airport to welcome a foreign delegation A Chinese official scolding a White House aide Saturday as President Obama and the press corps arrive for the G20 Summit of World Leaders in China. The disagreement over where the press should stand, not the only altercation during President Obama's arrival. Minutes before out of view of cameras, this same Chinese official tried to block National Security Advisor Susan Rice from walking from plane to motorcade.

12:38 Possibly mistaking her for a reporter, forcing the US Secret Service to step in. I can just see it! Don't you know who i am? I'm Susan Rice, as she looks up. There is a picture in the Reuters report of her being consoled by Carrie. She's like a midget compared to him. Oh yeah? She looks like she's crying like a baby. I also noticed that Carrie is the only guy wearing a blue suit at these events have you noticed that? No I have not noticed that. Yeah it must be some kind of power move or something I'm going to wear a blue suit. Everyone's in charcoal gray or black, you know, distinguished." This report did continue a bit about what was accomplished at the G20. The unusual altercations at the airport setting up for an awkward start to what is likely the last official meeting between Obama and his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping. The two taking up some thorny issues no doubt freedom of the press a last minute addition to the list

13:40 I know that we will have, once again, candid conversations about some of those differences. around issues like human rights or cyber or maritime. Tensions have often been high between the two sides over hacking incidents and China's land grab in the South China Sea, but it was all smiles for the cameras Saturday with at least one thing they both could agree on cutting greenhouse gases earlier. Both leaders formally ratified the Paris climate agreement to curb carbon emissions with the UN's Ban Ki-moon looking on so did we I don't

CHAPTER 06 / 51 Discussion

National Emergency Extension and Executive Order Continuity

President Obama signed an executive order on August 30, 2016, extending the national emergency declared on September 14, 2001, for another year. The proclamation maintains legal authorities adopted to address terrorist threats following the 9/11 attacks. The hosts discuss the permanence of such "temporary" measures and the political difficulty of ever allowing them to expire.

barack obama· national emergency· september 11· executive order· terrorism· legislation

14:17 I thought that the climate change agreement had to be ratified in Congress and the Senate, or the Senate at least. Has that been done? I don't think so. Because the president's sitting there with a signature book and everything like yeah signed it ratified! I don't think he can do that. I don't know...I don't know It's bullcrap anyway no one is going to pay any attention to this What the President has done for us He has signed an executive order. We haven't talked about him in a while This is what you know one of my favorites that comes around every single year he signed this on August 30th and it is of course the continuation of the national emergency with respect to certain terrorist attacks in the United States of Gitmo Nation

14:57 And this is what I love so much about how law works in the United States. You mean those attacks in 2011? 2001, actually. I'm sorry, what am I thinking? Yeah it was that long ago, sorry! Yes consistent with section 202D of the National Emergencies Act 50 USC 1622 Delta, I'm continuing for one year the national emergency previously declared on September 14th 2001 in Proclamation 7463 with respect to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 and the continuing and immediate threat of further attacks to the United States. So 15 years have gone by, nothing's happened. Because the terrorist threat continues the national emergency declared on September 14th 2001 and the powers and authorities adopted to deal with that emergency must continue in effect beyond September 14 2016 therefore I am continuing in effect for an additional year The national emergency that was declared on September 14 2001 with respect to the terrorist threats

15:50 This means for the next... I want to predict, for the next 20 years that they're going to keep signing this because now it's gone on so long that whoever doesn't sign it an extension is gonna be called out like a dude. Oh what are you guys? You're risking American lives! Exactly So now we're stuck with this thing forever Yeah and really it doesn't apply anymore But you know, it only pertained really towards the terrorists of September 11th 2001 and those attacks. They seem to be dead most of them? No! Most of them are alive that's the funny thing. Well yes... If you go by their names and identities that's true but- Well please remember we found the passport of Muhammad Atta amidst the rubble so we know he is dead Yeah That was a magical passport

CHAPTER 07 / 51 Discussion

Hangzhou G20 Makeover and Labor Day Origins

China implemented a multi-billion dollar makeover for Hangzhou ahead of the G20 summit, which included shutting down factories to clear pollution and providing holiday vouchers to residents to ease congestion. The hosts transition to discussing the origins of Labor Day in the United States, characterizing it as a holiday rooted in socialist union history.

hangzhou· china· g20· labor day· unions· pollution control· rt

16:44 It's the one thing that came out of it. Very, very nice that passport. I do have a G20 report that came in from RT just kind of ridiculing the Chinese for you know they put on a huge show there's like a bunch of commercials that were done by the Chinese and and very professionally done And they had some overhead shots of Hangzhou With all the lights buildings to get two multicolored license beautiful yeah, and I have a clip Meanwhile, Russia's president is now heading to China where the 11th G20 summit does get underway on Saturday. The first to be held in the country and China has done everything possible to make sure that the eastern city of Hangzhou sparkles for the arrival of world leaders ahead of the event. The city has been given a multi-billion dollar makeover

17:31 people in run down areas too were urged to wipe out cockroaches, mosquitoes and rodents from the streets we understand. And while all the city's factories have been shut down too to stop pollution and keep the sky clear local schools have also been given extended holidays and families have received holiday vouchers to help ease congestion." Nice! Now I want to mention that RT pronounces it and i think wrongly because the Chinese, I get it from the Chinese stations Hangzhou they pronounce it hang-jew. Wait let me hear that one again hold on. Meanwhile Russia's president is now heading to China where the 11th G20 summit does get underway on Saturday the first be held in the country and China has done everything possible to make sure the eastern city of Hangzhou

18:22 Maybe hang Jews. I don't know man, that's... Hang Jew! That's a good catch Hang you. Yeah, that must... That's a subtext in the news and today show no kidding no kidding well something kind of disturbing happened on Friday we in America We have the long holiday weekend is it Labor Day weekend? Is that what this is? Labor day weekend! You can start wearing white again No stop wearing why you can't wear white after labor day What what is what is the significance of Labor Day? Is this our own May 1st version? It's a mayday thing. Yeah, it's like a socialist thing yeah, kind of hmm It was when the power of the unions was high they put this thing together I should look it up and get their actual explanation But it's it's so it is what it is we Labor Day So there were the FBI released

CHAPTER 08 / 51 Discussion

FBI Release of Hillary Clinton Email Investigation Notes

The FBI released a 47-page redacted report on a Friday afternoon detailing its investigation into Hillary Clinton's private email server. The documents reveal that Clinton's staff occasionally destroyed mobile devices with hammers. Media outlets, including CNN and RT, provided varying interpretations of Clinton's inability to recall specific security briefings or the meaning of classification markings.

hillary clinton· fbi· email server· classified information· blackberries· hammers

19:22 a memo, which is you definitely want to do this on a Friday afternoon for long holiday weekend to ensure that they will really not get the scum. Very similar to the 28 pages from the 9-11 convention report which were also released on a weekend That was the weekend that the terrorist attack took place in Nice, so it just doesn't get discussed. It's perfect timing! But of course I read the report for you and there are a few things we can talk about if if you're interested in what's what's in the report But I have a couple of clips and I do have the ABC report where they twisted it in such a way that I can deconstruct it and show how you can untwist it. Now, I believe what you're now going to play is part of the Liener Report? Is it not? It might well...it's kind of yeah. You talk about ABC twisting this story. The reason I say this is because I have a gift for you!

20:20 Oh, yes. Are you ready to receive your gift? I am all whatever yeah ears leaner report calm baby No, you got it Yeah Go take a look you did go straight to your PDF no dynamite Yeah So all you have to do is update the PDF and everything will be great just leave it at the same place Yeah, I'll update it once a month okay so let's You seems like you have some packaged material here I do a little bit. Let's play this, this is the... Now what we're talking about is you were...I'm assuming we're talking about Hillary's... About her interview with the FBI? Her interview with the FBI and... A couple of things up front so that it's just meeting notes which are heavily redacted but there's no...

21:08 Apparently, there's no recording which I don't believe. I don't believe that sounds like a lie to me But then you know that there were some interesting bits in there and I have some well guys some clips have some thoughts but let's say get into it with you Well, let's start I got it because I got four of our two three versions I get the RT Which is the most dramatic version because they cam it up to make Hillary look like an idiot Okay This is RT on the Clinton FBI report Hello, welcome to Coming To You Live from Moscow. You're watching RT International Now we'll start in America because the FBI has released the finding of its investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a personal email server which she used to send classified information while Secretary Of State However, Clinton couldn't give answers to a number of key questions during the investigation

21:58 Clinton could not recall when she first received her security clearance. Clinton could not recall how often she used this classification authority. Clinton could not give an example of how classification of a document was determined. Clinton could not recall a specific process for nominating a target for drone strike. With more now on the FBI report, here's Caleb Moppet. It's 47 pages long and it shows the investigation that the FBI did of Hillary Clinton's use of her personal emails for private servers, specifically using personal emails for classified government information. As you look through the documents one of the interesting things that comes out is that 13 different devices were used by Clinton and when she finished with one device her staffers admitted to breaking them in half and breaking them and smashing them with hammers

22:54 after she was finished using them. Okay, let me play a quick report that flows right out of this as this news came out Friday afternoon CNN's Brooke Baldwin who... Your favorite? Yeah one of my favorites yeah except again the makeup is all wrong there at CNN My God stop spraying these people like they're bugs spray makeup is horrible. So she has one guy, Evan Perez who's in one of the CNN correspondents on the White House lawn in front of the White House and some guy who was obviously a Trump supporter is saying oh well listen to what they did and just it's too bad we don't have video in this one case because the expression on Brooks face is priceless

23:40 when she jumps in and tries to fact check on the fly. 17,500 emails that she lied about turning over. The server wiped within weeks of there being a report that she had a private server it was wiped She thought that C which stands for classified stood for cookie or something which stands for classified. She thought that drone strikes are not classified. She said that the reason she used this private servers is for convenience and then she only had one device 15 blackberries, let me finish and 5 iPads. This is somebody who's absolutely disqualified from becoming president they destroyed blackberries with hammers in the State Department that's not what we want in a presidency.

24:26 on the fly. Yes they did, Brooke. As you mentioned there were 13 mobile devices and 5 iPads that the FBI said in some way were used with her private email server and they did in some cases just destroy them with hammers when they were done using them I love this. Better call Saul." She didn't at least read this thing? It's not that big of a paper. No, it was coming out as she was on the air now to be fair in the actual report itself they do make mention of the 13 devices and i know exactly how this goes...I can tell you exactly because I know the type of person Hillary Clinton is

CHAPTER 09 / 51 Discussion

Hillary Clinton's Use of Mobile Devices and Drone Program Emails

FBI investigation notes indicate Hillary Clinton used 13 mobile devices and five iPads to access her private email server, with several devices' locations remaining unknown. The report highlights Clinton's claims that she did not recall specific training regarding the handling of classified information, including discussions about the drone program. FBI Director James Comey previously described the handling of these secrets as "extremely careless."

hillary clinton· fbi· drone strikes· blackberries· classified data· james comey

25:11 She's been a celebrity, she has had power and influence and certainly money for a long time. And she acts like most A-holes who have that. If the BlackBerry doesn't work this is what we've deconstructed throughout several months when there was a power outage and then you know she couldn't reach the server because it was in their house in Chappaqua. Yeah, Chappaqua. She just said, oh! The Blackberry does not work! And that's it. I can see that, okay? Here's the new one and then no but i've read all the different reports and then well this is...I don't understand! It's a new operating system for Blackberry you know they got her a new one. Hey I want to know give me the older version boom gotta get an older version and only on one case do they say that there was recollection of it being destroyed with in hammer not all of them necessarily and the iPads they could find only three of the five had no evidence that she had had her personal email on

26:08 So I'm just too difficult to figure out. Well, I thought... Possibly. I think you're onto something which makes me want to follow up with this clip and I'll tell you why. Play this is Hillary and the new Doc's PBS. This is a PBS thing. Okay here we go. So what's new about the documents that were released today? There are several new details including real Really, since what Hillary Clinton told FBI investigators in that three-and-a-half hour interview at FBI headquarters on July 2nd. Hari she said she used this personal server as a matter of convenience She never had a concern that she or anybody close to her was mishandling classified information and that she actually doesn't recall attending a security briefing Or any kind of training about open records lawsuits

26:56 records laws, which is interesting because these materials only came out after a host of FOIA requests from news organizations and calls from Republicans in Congress. And there was one of the emails or at least one of the quotes that we have here is about a drone program I think we can put that up it says Clinton stated this is the FBI saying Clinton stated deliberation over a future drone strike did not give her cause for concern regarding classification I mean, is this willful oversight? Ignorance? Was she too busy? What were the reasons that they gave? Recall Hari that the FBI director James Comey has said that Hillary Clinton and her closest aides were extremely careless with government secrets but he didn't find enough evidence to prosecute anyone for wrongdoing. That said

27:44 These new documents today include more information about what was going through her email server. A lot of documents, a lot of emails about the drone program one of the government's most secret tools in the national security space." Again Mike... I have another clip that fits right in with this if you want. Oh because I do have some comments about this but if you have another clip to back it up I'll... Yeah before she said at beginning of the clip about she was not able to recall her briefings on how to identify and handle classified information. The same Evan guy who burst Brooks' bubble there saying, well yeah actually they did destroy stuff with a hammer he had this little ditty for her. Let me actually just bring you back because you said 39 times she said I could not recall in what context

28:32 Was that with regard to all kinds of different questions on drones and classification levels or what? They had mostly to do, Brooke, with whether or not she was aware of the propriety of using her unclassified system to discuss some of these different issues. Whether or not she ever got a security training briefing to tell her how to use her unclassified system to talk about sensitive programs and here's the most interesting one. There was a discussion back in 2011 around Christmas time, there is a CIA planning to do a drone strike, there is some discussion among some...

29:11 department officials and what's remarkable is the Secretary of State says that she wasn't aware of what the rules are for handling this type of stuff over Christmas holidays because as you know, over the holidays people are traveling they don't have access to their classified skiffs there they're secure systems throughout to communicate and she said she didn't really know. There was no You know, protocols for dealing with that. That's kind of shocking frankly that you don't know that you can't talk about something so sensitive as a drone program. Hey but I want everyone to know that I am broadcasting from my classified skiff now couple things i've noticed in this one is this training thing? You have to know that an

29:56 And I'm guessing, could be wrong. I don't think these are personal training. I think there's like a video series you watch. Yeah like when you go to a gun range they show you how to be safe and you have to watch that for 15 minutes Or when your company work at a company as a higher executive...I'm not pointing the finger at anybody but you work at a company that hire executive not playing the finger to anybody and you fail to take the training on how to hire in far you do you feel they take this sexism training that is uh... did that you have to take a course I did. I took the course on how to avoid sexism in the workplace, and I know somebody who didn't not to point a finger. No no i just would...I got very bored with having to wait two minutes to pretend that read every page before I moved on you and Hillary now yeah but I'm a podcaster small difference sure well that's you yeah you have the edge on her so um now

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Corporate Training Asides and Elite Disconnect

A host shares an anecdote about mandatory corporate training videos, specifically regarding sexism in the workplace, comparing the experience to Hillary Clinton's claimed lack of memory regarding security briefings. The discussion shifts to the normalization of drone warfare in public discourse and how elite figures may view classified subjects as common knowledge.

corporate training· sexism training· podcasters· elite culture· drones· classification

29:11 department officials and what's remarkable is the Secretary of State says that she wasn't aware of what the rules are for handling this type of stuff over Christmas holidays because as you know, over the holidays people are traveling they don't have access to their classified skiffs there they're secure systems throughout to communicate and she said she didn't really know. There was no You know, protocols for dealing with that. That's kind of shocking frankly that you don't know that you can't talk about something so sensitive as a drone program. Hey but I want everyone to know that I am broadcasting from my classified skiff now couple things i've noticed in this one is this training thing? You have to know that an

29:56 And I'm guessing, could be wrong. I don't think these are personal training. I think there's like a video series you watch. Yeah like when you go to a gun range they show you how to be safe and you have to watch that for 15 minutes Or when your company work at a company as a higher executive...I'm not pointing the finger at anybody but you work at a company that hire executive not playing the finger to anybody and you fail to take the training on how to hire in far you do you feel they take this sexism training that is uh... did that you have to take a course I did. I took the course on how to avoid sexism in the workplace, and I know somebody who didn't not to point a finger. No no i just would...I got very bored with having to wait two minutes to pretend that read every page before I moved on you and Hillary now yeah but I'm a podcaster small difference sure well that's you yeah you have the edge on her so um now

30:52 The other thing that's kind of interesting is I think that people are kind of missing the point. about the drone stuff. Hillary happened to be just, like you said with the Blackberry thing she's out of touch with reality as far as she knows The drone thing is a common thing everybody knows about it It's generally accepted principles it's all good! It's not a secret so how was this classified? It's not an issue Yeah we're just bombing people with drones... This is not a secret I don't get it This is not a problem We know all about this And so I think that and take all these clips kind of prove that she's she's kind of an heiress aristocrat well This question came yet. It's kind of

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State Department Briefings and the Death of Muammar Gaddafi

State Department spokesperson John Kirby struggled to provide specific dates for when Hillary Clinton received security briefings. The hosts reference a famous video of Clinton receiving news of Muammar Gaddafi's death via a Blackberry message, noting the absence of this specific communication in public WikiLeaks archives despite its apparent use of her private server.

john kirby· state department· muammar gaddafi· hillary clinton· blackberry· wikileaks

31:35 This question came up in the State Department briefing with our buddy Kirby, who is still a moron. And well he had trouble coming up with an answer himself. Who are the people who actually would brief someone like Secretary Clinton when one of those in-person briefings happened? Do you have any dates on when those briefing's happened? I don't know... They never happened! dates on when those briefings might have happened or if they happened. That is not an uncommon practice, particularly for somebody at that level and it's usually people that work inside the administrative bureau here at the State Department. So there are State Department employees

32:26 Do you have any more specifics, I guess? I don't. Oh sorry don't have it You know what I find odd We have this video which of course we've played this many times where she is being interviewed and she receives information that Gaddafi has just been killed In fact i'll play that so everyone remembers what her response was So that's the land of unconfirmed videos Yes! We came...we saw... he died We killed him! We killed him, we killed him. Now she finds out if you watch that video by Uma handing her a blackberry Why have I not found this email anywhere in the wiki leaks?

33:11 Because that is clearly on her BlackBerry. We know her Blackberry was configured either for her Clinton email, but if it was their state email which I doubt then we should have that she received a message that said We got him we killed him or something. I have not been able to find this I'll give you 10 points for that. I'd like to find it, maybe i'm not looking right? Maybe its code...I have no idea but if it was classified gee then I guess that classified email was on her server but never made into the public domain. Good point. Yeah, so he died and she was thrilled, thrilled to have murdered the guy. So happy! I killed a guy. Wooo! Big smile on her face too.

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Media Deconstruction of ABC News Reporting Bias

The hosts deconstruct ABC News' coverage of the Clinton FBI report, demonstrating how subtle word choices by reporters can editorialize a story. They compare news reporting to stock market analysis, where the same data point can be used to explain both positive and negative outcomes depending on the reporter's conclusion.

abc news· media bias· market indicators· hillary clinton· propaganda· journalism

34:01 Well ABC did a thing and I just want to show you how easy it is And how easy it would be to change the structure of a story just by changing one word Really? Uh, and this isn't no. This is the because ABC in this particular piece and then if I think there's a follow-up Is again, this is showing the leaner report to be ABC leaning toward Trump because this is a very, both these pieces I'm going to play are very pro-Trump and anti Hillary in a way that you can see how easy it would be to just twist it a little bit. To make go the other way especially the first piece second piece you can't do that cause its just ridiculous but the first piece and I'll explain how easy it is." Really don't understand how she was able to get away from prosecution

34:51 Okay. It's funny. These documents are not going to help on that front. Let me hear it again, let me just hear the last bit here. More unpopular than ever and these documents are not going to help on that front Tom. Okay alright

35:30 Now, if she had said these documents are not going to make any difference on that front. Play the piece again and just imagine because you could actually make the point one of the things I've been noticing is because I used to write for...I still do a thing with Horowitz obviously, the financial stuff and one of the things in the financial world has always fascinated me is the market goes up and they blame it on A. Now, there were some incidents. You know the job numbers came out today at 150 and the market went up the job numbers that you know it's because of the job numbers or the market went down today because of A

36:10 The market went down today because of the job numbers. They're 150, the exact same information is interpreted to make for the market going up or the market going down I've always been fascinated by people taking the exact same piece of information and making it responsible aren't those what are known as market indicators? It's not, no. Yeah you can call it a market indicator but if you have a value of X and then you claim that X the value is the reason the market went up that's one thing right if you claim x is the reason the market went down if the market happened to have gone down that's another thing but X is the same

36:51 Oh, okay. I see what you're saying the same number of X's... So you have the same information and then you blame them- You take that information and you blame it for going up or you blame it for going down? And people go oh yeah! That's it?! Well I guess that would also depend on- It's also like Janet Yellen, The Market Goes Up Or Down. I listen to Janet Yellen like she didn't say anything. Market goes up She didn't say anything market goes down If you listen to this carefully, you can see how easy it would be. To say yes or no that you get the exact same piece of information and then you the reporter at the end make a conclusion if you listened to this and again why is the reporter making any sort of conclusion at all? Let's listen to the report again it's only 20 seconds really don't understand how she was able to get away from prosecution

37:38 And Cecilia joins us now. Cecilia, we just heard from Donald Trump right there He and the Republicans are not going to let up on this Is their campaign responding? Well Tom her campaign says these documents make the case for why she was not charged But look new polls show that Hillary Clinton is more unpopular than ever and these documents are not going to help on that front Tom Gotcha Will they help or not? She could just as easily say, these documents won't make any difference. These documents will help because she could have said that. Yeah so this was an editorialized tag on the report which was disparaging

38:17 Yeah, yeah. Well good work ABC! And you see this constantly on all the networks and they do this and it's just to me again it's like these stock market analysis reports at the end of the day which is literally at the end of the day the market closes The market goes up, they blame it on X. The market goes down they blame it on X the same thing! It makes no sense and that's exactly what the news media has been doing with Trump and Hillary but if you but of course ABC goes further than that when they play part two which I think is even more twisted because what they're doing now is this is very subtle propaganda and I really enjoyed this

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Juxtaposition of Trump and Clinton Intelligence Briefings

ABC News reporting is criticized for its juxtaposition of House Speaker Paul Ryan calling for Hillary Clinton to lose access to classified information while showing footage of Donald Trump arriving for his second intelligence briefing. The hosts analyze this as a form of subtle propaganda that highlights the contrast between the two candidates' current standing with federal agencies.

donald trump· hillary clinton· fbi· intelligence briefing· paul ryan· media strategy

38:58 You ready? Yeah. Documents are not going to help on that front, Tom. Cecilia thank you and these new documents prompted House Speaker Paul Ryan to renew his call for Hillary Clinton to be denied access to classified information Donald Trump stopped by FBI's New York field office today for his second intelligence briefing Trump is now stepping up his outreach to African-Americans meeting with community leaders in Philadelphia and tomorrow visiting a Detroit church His first appearance before mostly minority community Now, what we have here is just a quick bite on Hillary. You know she shouldn't be given classified material and then they cut to a video of a bunch of these SUVs going by because it's

39:40 saying that Trump is getting the briefing as they're bitching about Hillary shouldn't get the briefing even though she gets it. And it was just like, the juxtaposition was like Hillary shouldn't get their briefing meanwhile old Donald's here getting the briefing and I just thought it was outrageous reporting. But I've seen most news networks do this being reverse you know Trump's an idiot but Hillary's handling it right so Yeah, in a way it's refreshing to hear this from mainstream outlet to at least switch it up a little bit. Deconstruct the other way yes Well I'm also you know...I'm really thinking now that the press is well there's a sales call going on let's put it that way

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Hillary Clinton's Press Conference Absence and Tim Kaine Interview

Vice Presidential nominee Tim Kaine defended Hillary Clinton's 272-day absence from formal news conferences during an interview on CBS This Morning. The press corps has expressed increasing frustration over being excluded from the candidate's plane, a departure from historical campaign norms. Kaine suggested these arrangements would change as the campaign enters its final phase after Labor Day.

hillary clinton· tim kaine· press conference· cbs this morning· transparency· campaign plane

40:22 The press is angry that Hillary has not done a press conference. Yeah, again, Eric... and I was thinking about this and somebody pointed out wisely on one of the less-reported networks works from the middle of nowhere. They said, why is she giving one? They're useless! They don't prove anything they don't do you know they don't give us any greater understanding of the candidate it's pointless I think that's probably true and that's not what I think that's a reason she's not doing it but it is kind of pointless but on the other hand your got this beat with Hillary you need material you have to write something up every day

40:59 Because you're just with her and you got to come up with something. At a press conference, at least you can ask a question that looks like you're doing something! It's bad for the press!" I have two clips here. CBS this morning is mad, perturbed... And they had Kane on there. Poor Kane. Poor Tim Kane. Yeah, Cain is not. And he was obviously brought in to run interference and he's just swimming but you know He's kind of treading water really is what he's doing So CBS this morning had the vice presidential nominee for the Democrats on and they started badgering him about The lack of press conferences and he came back with some

41:39 unsatisfactory answers as you can imagine. Senator, this was Donald Trump's first meeting with the head of state as the nominee and he immediately opened up the floor to reporters for questions when will we see Hillary open up the floor and take questions from reporters at any event? Well you see questions from reporters every day. She does, she talks to the press everywhere she goes. She did a press conference when she was at the recent meeting of African American and Hispanic newspaper publishers. That was her first time in a long time. She doesn't do it that often?

42:16 Well, look I don't see what the massive difference is between a press conference and talking to the press everywhere you go. She talks to the press alot and i've been with her when she's talked to the press But just to set the record straight it has been 272 days since she has had a formal news conference. I want also ask you Senator if its been the case... Again, I think she did a news conference with the publishers of The Nation African American & Hispanic News papers within the last month and that counts. She took I think six questions during that huge press conference, and one of the answers included my brain...I might have short-circuited it but the other answer was some of my best friends are African American. They're a legitimate group and a press conference with them counts

43:02 The New York Times recently reported, and this is true and I've covered that unlike any other presidential nominee in history she is not allowing journalists to accompany her on the plane. The campaign plane This has been something that's been standard since I've covered presidential campaigns Why is that the case? Do you believe in transparency? Do you think this will change Well, I mean just...I'm going to use my own example. Um..I am traveling too and i travel in a small plane and the press travels on a plane with me we're not on the plane together but that's gonna change about a week and I think that's fairly common. I guess the bigger planes coming in you can't wait these small planes how annoying

43:40 Give me a G5. During campaigns that you often fly in small planes and then you get into the end, you start flying in larger planes If you get the larger plane then you know your good to stay if you stay in the smaller plane Mr. Kane You may want to reconsider your nomination So, I think that is something that yeah as we get into the thick of the campaign and Labor Day. That is going to change. And I don't even think Donald Trump allowed the press, the American press to go with him yesterday when he went to Mexico which was highly unusual." Unusual? Yeah if you're the president it may be unusual. Ah man his head's in the wrong place and there's this video floating around because the press...I have a couple of articles here

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Media Frustration and the Clinton Campaign Rope Line

Journalists expressed outrage over the use of a physical rope by Clinton campaign staffers to corral reporters during a parade. CBS News compared the accessibility of Donald Trump, who has held 14 news conferences in 2016, to Clinton's "aversion" to the format. The report also noted Trump's own recent shift toward Fox News-exclusive interviews and his refusal to release tax returns.

hillary clinton· press corps· rope line· cbs news· donald trump· transparency

44:19 they are really quite mad about this. They're, you know, it's really getting on their nerves and I think it may be a sales call at the same time saying, Hey, you know what? The polls are tightening up there. The bands are narrowing. You know, you're not doing press conferences. These phony baloney polls tightening up is bull crap. Maybe maybe maybe you should spend some more money on ads or something like that. I don't know. It was getting to getting a little problematic so there's this video of when she's walking in some kind of parade. And this is, there's no audio to it that's useful for a clip but you have to see it so her staffers have this rope all right? There's one two four people are holding a rope and it creates kind of like a U-shape around...in front

45:08 Hillary Clinton and her little entourage as they're walking in the parade. And the journalists are on the other side of this rope, and so these staffers are just walking slowly setting the pace of how fast the secretary will walk but this rope is like shooing the reporters you know they're not allowed to... The rope is against you have to move forward now don't cross the rope it's like herding cats With a rope, you have to see it's really I mean this may be something common. I've never seen it before. I've never heard of such a thing So instead of like a wall of guys security or something that was a rope A little rope Yeah like a jump rope It's very very thick anchor boat rope or anything No it is a maritime rope You know it's like a sailing rope one of those smooth and yeah but they use that just to corral everybody move along people move along slaves

46:04 CBS again now comparing Trump to Clinton and how they deal with the press. But they also fueled a new Trump talking point. She doesn't do rallies of any consequence No press conference in what, 255 days? He's attacked the judge Clinton did phone into two cable news shows last week promising as she has for months that she will do a news conference at some point Stay tuned there'll be a lot of different opportunities for me to talk to the press The press should be ashamed of themselves

46:48 Trump has held at least 14 news conferences this year. This sleazy guy right over here from... His combative approach is a far cry from Clinton's. Secretary Clinton on foreign policy? She's generally too busy ignoring reporters to insult them. Any comment on your husband leaving the secretary general of immigration? Clinton did take eight questions at a journalism forum earlier this month I may have short-circuited and put Two of them were on my least favorite subject, which could help explain her aversion to the format. I have acknowledged repeatedly that using two email accounts was a mistake. Mexico will be paying for the wall. As the election nears Trump

47:29 has grown less accessible too. Nearly all of his recent TV interviews have been with Fox News and Democrats note he still has not released his tax returns or explained discrepancies in the glowing letter released by his doctor. Yeah so they add a little uh, a little balance at the end there but for CBS you know Yeah, CBS is definitely... Well when Nora was grilling Kane there I thought it was interesting that she was kind of snotty with him. Kinda? Oh yeah! She is like just a Hillary booster but I don't know what's going on. Well another Hillary booster was daughter of the elite Mika Brzezinski

CHAPTER 16 / 51 Discussion

Mika Brzezinski Reacts to New Benghazi Emails

MSNBC host Mika Brzezinski reacted strongly to news of 30 additional Benghazi-related emails discovered on Hillary Clinton's server, contradicting previous claims that all work-related emails had been turned over. Brzezinski argued that the public is not "dumb" and that the ongoing email saga adds to the "baggage" the Clintons have carried for decades.

mika brzezinski· morning joe· benghazi· hillary clinton· emails· msnbc

48:11 on the Morning Joes on MSNBC, which is a very pro-Hillary network. I won't say that's the most pro Hillary show but she has certainly been very pro Hillary this news broke of course during her show about there being an additional 30 Benghazi emails which showed up which previously were you know they had everything! I have nothing left in my possession and part of these New emails that appear 30 of them deal directly with Benghazi so that would be incorrect based upon previous statements Mika, oh man Mika did not take kindly to this I think it doesn't make a difference But I think the email the home server the foundation. I think it's all part

48:54 of the bag is that the Clintons have lugged across the landscape of this country for 30 years. I don't think it's one specific thing, it's just an additional fact. But you know what people when they get out there in the ether and todays headline its thirty emails Benghazi hidden That doesn't help. Sorry, 30 missing emails about Benghazi? That just doesn't help! It's still mushier and gushier... No it's not mushy! Oh my god! People are not that dumb! Not a matter of dumb. What's baked into Trump is he's dangerous and unstable.

49:31 untrustful. She's not changing on trust I'm just saying what we've been saying over a year even further is that the email thing is big it needs to be answered to, it needs to be completely transparent from the get-go. I guess she couldn't push the State Department to move along and get those emails out? I mean... I see where you have a little comic relief coming up though yeah we do this is a woman scorned yes oh hell yeah And what's happened, I think a lot... This I think happened when Hillary ran against Obama. I think besides her being kind of like aloof and standoffish and then kind of you know turns the charm on-and-off at will and coldly and she can't sweat uh i think that people that she surrounds herself with are probably snoots

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Female Power Dynamics and Executive Office Culture

A host recounts an anecdote from their time as a New York executive regarding a female colleague's elaborate lunch rituals, involving booked conference rooms and fine china. The story is used to illustrate the "suck-up" culture and specific power processes that often surround high-ranking female leaders, drawing a parallel to Hillary Clinton's inner circle.

executive culture· power dynamics· office etiquette· new york· anna wintour· gender

50:22 I think gets on people's nerves after a while. Okay, how much you support her if you're constantly trying to cover her and you keep running into these roadblocks and this other nonsense? And then lies here something yeah here something I've got it gets it gets to eventually I've identified something with powerful women And this goes back to my company which had New York and we eventually took public on NASDAQ. And one of the top executives, so we acquired a lot of companies and your company gets bought hey you're now VP! It's a great way to do business And this woman, Susan was...she's about in her mid-40s and she had a consulting company and she had a couple of clients. So she was acquired with their consulting company basically her understaffed. The way her staff was trained to treat her was I think probably something that do New York a little bit too it was just like she was Anna Wintour you know like she was the editor of Vogue magazine

51:21 Because, you know time for Susan's lunch. Oh well, yeah it we're in New York Most people go out you go to the deli and maybe you go to a restaurant if you got some clients or you bring something back in the office she eat at there whatever It is no The conference room would be booked and they would set up her her lunch in the conference room with China And and silverware that proper still nope No plastic knives of Forks cloth napkins And she would just be in there, you know. She'd have her lunch and her little minions would take care of her...and that is part of the female power process which is undeniable but just as creepy as men have these issues. Yeah well I think this goes on with Hillary Yes! So when you're talking about who's around her yeah it's a bunch of suck up and yes man, yes women Meanwhile Judicial Watch won a lawsuit

CHAPTER 18 / 51 Discussion

Judicial Watch Lawsuit and Clinton's Written Testimony

A federal judge ruled that Hillary Clinton must provide written answers under oath to 25 questions submitted by Judicial Watch. The questions focus on her decision to use a private server, her knowledge of FOIA requirements, and her 2011 memo advising State Department staff to avoid using personal email for official business.

judicial watch· hillary clinton· lawsuit· foia· colin powell· state department

52:18 And the lawsuit was that they wanted to have Hillary Clinton testify under oath. The judge said, well what we're going to do is we won't bring her in you can't do it in person but you can write down 25 questions and she will have to answer those questions under oath but it can be written And I don't think this is discussed very much. This will definitely... No, I think I've only seen…I've never seen a mention of it actually. It's zero hedge. Yeah, yeah, zero hedge. Yeah exactly. They're the ones who keep bringing stuff like this into the public domain but nobody pays attention. So there's a couple of questions…I have the list of 25 questions if you want me to highlight a few? Yeah if you go on and look over the list, I didn't bother to find anything that…I thought they were all pertinent good question but I never thought that

53:02 Pick out the top five. In a 60 Minutes interview aired on July 24, 2016 you stated that it was recommended you use a personal email account to conduct official State Department business? What recommendations were you given about using or not using your personal email account to conduct official State Department business who made such recommendations and when were any such recommendations made?" So that is trying to bring Colin Powell into the fight again As she's very clear that Colin Powell pulled her aside and said... It was his idea. Yeah, yeah he did it. Even though Colin Powell wasn't even in the office when she got there was Condoleezza Rice. Yeah and also it's a little different from having an AOL account versus your own email server. After President Obama nominated you to be Secretary of State and during your tenure as secretary did you expect the state department to receive FOIA requests for or concerning your email? So really pounding on that.

53:53 This was interesting. On June 28, 2011 you sent a message to all State Department personnel about securing personal email accounts in the message you noted quote recent targeting of personal email accounts by online adversaries and directed all personnel to avoid conducting official department business from your personal email accounts Why did you continue using your ClintonEmail.com email account to conduct official State Department business after June 28, 2011 when you were actually advising all State Department personnel to avoid doing so? Uh-oh! By the way, I saw that one. My thoughts on that is although she won't admit it, I believe that she didn't even write that memo. This is of course he did know Of course you didn't but what is cool? Is there's an email address and not to find it here which apparently is an email blast address And you can send by sending email to that. I don't if it still works It'll send email to the entire State Department. I thought that would be fun too

54:51 Oh, there was a blast address on there? Yeah. We should tell them to listen to The No Agenda Show with a quick email! Let me see if I can find it here... Actually maybe let me take a look at the... Everybody's got blast addresses. I wish people would send them to us so we could solicit more listeners. I think i have it here hold on. I have that I have the blast address in the actual FBI document and let's see..I think actually highlighted that because I thought it was very funny Hold on is it here? Well, let me just read we'll hit it. Let's go on We'll do later there's a couple of things I highlighted the first thing and my thought was And the report actually kind of discredits in a way What the Republicans have been after with this you know with this email thing particularly as it pertains to what

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FBI Findings on Email Deletion and Mac Mini Server

The FBI report concludes that Hillary Clinton did not personally delete emails to avoid FOIA requests, instead trusting her legal team to handle the process. Technical details reveal that her first private server, installed in 2007, was an Apple Mac Mini running OS X Server. The report also notes the use of BleachBit to wipe archives and the physical disposal of old server hardware.

fbi· hillary clinton· mac mini· apple os x· email archive· bleachbit

55:48 the FBI director said, that there really was no malicious intent. So if you really... and these are almost footnotes in this document which is redacted in some weird places I want to talk about as well but here are conclusions in the document it says Clinton Never deleted nor did she instruct anyone to delete her email to avoid complying with Federal Records Act FOIA or State or FBI request for information. Concerning the Congressional Preservation Request on March 3rd, 2015 for email and other records Clinton trusted her legal team would comply with the request Clinton had no knowledge regarding the following topics, the creation storage transfer or access to an archive of her email created by Monica Hanley in the spring of 2013. She had no knowledge of the specific processes and procedures used by Clinton's legal team and PRN to separate her work on personal email. And she had no knowledge of discussions of federal records related to Apple Pagliano or PRN servers

56:46 which means she really, according to the FBI conclusions did not delete her emails herself and had no knowledge of it. Now if something comes out later on that can prove that she was aware of it then she's going to jail because she lied to the FBI but to be honest this report really states something that was you know that the FBI director had already said and its...if you highlight that only the report isn't actually all that bad However, the agencies determined that 68 of the email chains were indeed classified. In addition the classification determination process administered by the US Department of State in connection with the Freedom of Information Act identified approximately 2,000 additional emails that are classified as confidential

57:39 The first server that was installed in 2017 by Justin Cooper, at the time an aide to former President William Jefferson. It wouldn't be 2017? 2007 I'm sorry. The first server was...I thought this was fun no one's mentioned it. It wasn't Apple OS X Server on a Mac Mini. On a Mac Mini?! Yeah! That's great! I ran one of those if you get the Mac mini I don't know if they still make that. I think they make the OS X server edition anymore, but yeah you could run your email on that is pretty decent. That was no one's mentioned this hail Apple. This is good news. Yeah, you'd think the apple people would now her Blackberry addresses were very disturbing.

58:23 Prior to January 1st, 2009 when she was sworn in as Secretary of State. She'd been using her email address hr15 at mysingular dot blackberry dot net which is pretty much just an AT&T email account on AT&T servers which later changed HR 15 att dot BlackBerry dotnet but then when she started in her using her new private domain uh...to host e-mail service on the Apple server that's when they connected it up to the Apple server um There we go. Oh yeah, this Apple server was later in 2014 turned into a just a regular old

59:05 workstation at the house and they, the data on the server was transferred to an Apple iMac computer. And the hard drive of the old Apple computer which previously served as the Apple server was discarded." I don't know just thrown out in the trash? There's no... Wow! I mean that you do not..I mean that's bad. If that's true, that is bad. Yeah they just transferred it... Those guys over there you know this you can get a guy to come over with a big giant truck and he's got this machine I've seen these things and actually got the toss of disc into one right I'm pretty sure... It's a grinder! And then throw in there BOOM! The thing is shredded to a million little bitty pieces. That works kind of sad

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Redacted Staffers and Potential Server Security Compromises

The FBI report details several instances of potential hacking attempts on the Clinton server, including one successful compromise of a staffer's account via Tor exit nodes. The hosts attempt to identify a heavily redacted female staffer mentioned in the documents, cross-referencing names like Huma Abedin, Cheryl Mills, and Monica Hanley to find the missing link in the server's chain of custody.

huma abedin· bryan pagliano· tor· hacking· fbi report· redactions

59:49 Let's see down here. Oh, yes! So there is consistently one person... One person's name who was redacted out when it comes to her AIDS which I keep seeing in this. Here is the first Abidin Redacted and Hanley also assisted Clinton with setting up any new devices This is what I was talking about earlier According to Abidin It was not uncommon for Clinton to use a new BlackBerry for a few days then immediately switch it out for an older version with which she was more familiar Clinton stated that when her BlackBerry device malfunctioned, her aides would assist her in obtaining new BlackBerries. It's exactly what I said! This one is no good it's not working! Get me another one! Yeah it's the internet baby After moving to a new device for old SIM cards were disposed of by her aids Cooper advised these sometimes assisted users including Clinton when they obtained a new mobile device By helping them back up the data from the old device before transferring it To a new device and syncing the new device with Clinton server A lot of data floating around we're doing this stuff

1:00:48 Abedin and Hanley indicated the whereabouts of Clinton's devices would frequently become unknown once she transitioned to a new device. Cooper did recall two instances where he destroyed Clinton's old mobile devices by breaking them half or hitting them with a hammer." Yes, yeah that'll do it! Yeah that's again...again it's the optics You broke the screen! Let's see oh yes and then we talk about how The guy was asked to... he'd actually forgotten to delete this email archive which Hanley had put together, and he did that with something called Bleach Pit. Which will definitely remove most traces of anything you can find. And let's go down here I think it had one those redacted things It was a little more boring

1:01:36 than the media made it out to be, personally. I was like, this is okay... Yeah it's boring but the media can't do what you just did because they know nobody would be watching anymore! Who cares? So at one point they did have email chains going around amongst themselves in 2011 January 9th Cooper sent Abedin an email stating someone was attempting to hack the server prompting him to shut it down And if you read a little Mac and the hack the Mac yeah, hack the hack the Mac Which later on? You know is him just seeing you know a login attempts. You know typical Chinese stuff any email server has this all day long Yeah All day all night He just saw it once that makes zero sense Cooper sent Aberdeen another email later the same day stating he had to reboot the server again oh

1:02:28 What's a Mac? Yeah, you just turn it on. Exactly! Just unplug it wait three seconds and plug it back in again The FBI's review of available Internet information services weblog showed scanning attempts from external IP addresses Okay the only one appears to have resulted in a successful compromise of an email account on the server So they did get into an email account, which means they somehow got someone's password I think. You know it was just spear phishing whatever How are you... Well, that you can do it that way or you could just do with a hard calculation. You just keep drawing different passwords for us? Yeah brute force. Now forensic analysis noted that on January 5th 2013 three IP addresses matching known Tor exit nodes were observed accessing a user email account on the Pagliano server believed to belong to President Clinton staffer Redacted.

1:03:26 FBI investigation indicated the Tor user logged into Redacted email account and browsed email folders and attachments. When asked during her interview, Redacted stated to the FBI she is not familiar with nor has she ever used Tor software. FBI investigation today was unable to identify the actors responsible for this login or how redacted login credentials were compromised." So this is the person that is, I think continuously redacted throughout this document. And I don't know who are we missing? We have Mills she's in there, this Cooper person is in there, Abedin is in there... um we've got Hanley in there and we know it's a woman! Yeah I'm pretty sure that yeah that's- we don't know for sure because it said she answered or something like that so yes yeah yeah I think you're right I think you're right

1:04:14 So, we have to figure out the one missing woman in Clinton's staff and we'll figure out who it was that got hacked. And you know so...and then there is this addendum which talks about- Maybe under investigation or something that's where they had their- That could be Or someone has immunity? That's also possible. It's possible yeah I mean the FBI has done some deals in this regard here it is. Clinton's immediate staff to include Mills Sullivan Abedin Blank and Hanley Told the FBI interviews they had predominantly used their state-provided open net email accounts, blah blah blah. So it's Mills... It shouldn't be too difficult to figure out who this is. Right so Mills Sullivan Abedin the redacted person and Hanlon Who could it be? Well I think if we did a Google search Putting those names in I'll bet you that other person would crop up Alright let's try this out Let's do something real time Mills well lets try this Yeah Mills

1:05:11 Sullivan man, Abedin Abedin and what's the last one? And Hanley okay hold on Sullivan and Handley yeah so Mills ABA D. I n or e n a B E d i n a b e di in okay Mills ambition handling hey what am I missing here Mill Sullivan Ab- Mill Sullivan Abedin Hanley Mills I'm missing Sullivan hold on. Sullivan, okay what are we coming up with? Hey chat room where are you guys? Yeah you guys should be doing this with us Let me see oh the servants behind Hillary's server meet the staffers maybe it's in here I should have I could have yeah Salon doesn't like my ad blocker Okay let me see yes they do not like my ad blocker

1:06:11 So, Cooper Pagliano? I don't... hmm. Pagliano or...? He's- Pagliano is mentioned. Hmm. So we're missing maybe this is a ghost! Patrick Kennedy! Ah no, Patrick Kennedy! Yeah but they made it look like a woman Could be so yeah Maybe he's a woman Remember when were talking about someone getting thrown under the bus and it was either gonna be Mills Sullivan But I think Kennedy may get it. He's a dude, he's a dude! Get rid of the dude! Oh right that would make nothing but sense to get rid of the dude. Get rid of the dude! You're toast man! Exactly...get rid of the dude! Huh? Could be. Unless somebody can come up with another name we're gonna stick with this guy Alright well so we'll stick with him Final clip before you take a little break here This is uh why is this clip not loading Hold on a second what's going on Clip

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Anthony Weiner Sexting Scandal and Political Distraction Theories

The hosts discuss the timing of the latest Anthony Weiner sexting scandal, noting that the incriminating photos had been held for over a year before being released. They theorize that the scandal was deployed as a strategic distraction to soften the impact of the FBI's Clinton email report and to generate sympathy for Huma Abedin.

anthony weiner· huma abedin· sexting· political distraction· fbi report· clinton foundation

1:07:19 Here we go. I had RT's take on the... Hey, what's going on? RT? That's weird. Huh. Let me play it from the... Wow! Oh could not be opened. Okay well i guess i don't have but i guess that got corrupted somehow. But what was it? It was RT's take on the 58 page. It was funny one of those you know the way they edit stuff you know how they do that all right sorry that's a corrupted clip i did get my millennial clip redone though so we can do that later for sure Oh, oh. Yeah the classic. Let me see I have a couple other things i need to talk to you about...oh yes here's the one last thing I wanted to say before we take our break Anthony Weiner so all of a sudden

1:08:03 He's out, you know he screwed because he's been sexting again. But hold on a cotton-pickin' minute! A cotton pickin'? Cotton pickin' minute This video... this picture he sent was sent in January no June of 2015 They were holding onto this in case they needed a distraction John They've had this for a year. This is, this photo has been in someone's possession of him holding the camera with his stupid look on his face with no way it was hard on and the kid on the bed. The most recent one that when I haven't seen that one, well, that's, that's the one, that's the big one. That was the problem. That was the problem. And that was from January June, June 20, so it was over a year. Yeah. Wow. It was actually Tina who said, hold on a second

1:08:53 What is that they had this? This guy texted me this over a year ago, so Tina didn't say that No but think about it It was getting really hot and heavy. We had to have this, we had to have the news get... I mean it's so well timed with these Clintons! We need to get this FBI report out. This needs to go out Labor Day weekend. We need a big- Labor day weekend when no one sees it? We need big noise Only two assholes work on that Sunday And who gives a shit its a podcast Who cares what they have to say Yeah So im thinking You know what

1:09:36 Screw it, let's just throw him under the bus. Look at the headlines. There was nothing else, there was no talk about anything else except him and of course it softens that gives a little sympathy for Uma who is I think a marked woman. I think she's in trouble with a lot of what you know how about just her three jobs at the same time? I'd love to work for the government and for The Clinton Foundation and for the commercial organization Teneo which was set up by The Clinton Foundation co-founder. Triple dippin'. Yeah iI'd love that Absolutely. I would too, there's a lot of money coming in that's you know that's fabulous really well That is the find of the day i give another 10 points! I'll take that ten points but what's sad is they've now used up a distraction right? They used them so what's gonna happen next down one they're down one distraction What now?! Well they have set themselves up for the big distraction

1:10:33 Come on, we talked about it. What? He's gonna kill himself! Two to the head! Gun in his left hand! Or something... Yeah that's probably- We talked about him killing himself a long time ago Well now that I know they actually set him up and just completely abused the poor guy I mean the guy is a schmuck but come on They really just- You know what screw that guy Screw him And then this setup is perfect Ah he's so depressed It's such a problem Boom. So this could happen just at the end of September, as you know whatever Julian Assange says he's gonna he's going to... Yeah when Assange breaks out some new material then boom this guy is better if I was him

1:11:19 Boom, I'd be moving to Idaho and looking for a cabin. Yeah and the thing is it's not even going to help him to avoid small aviation aircraft canoes and hot tubs It's going to be with a gun he's going to shoot himself. I feel really bad saying it but this is... You should feel bad but you know its a fact Its historical analysis of these people If they sat on this information for over a year just for timing purposes, this guy's toast. Yeah. Because you're right it's the last because they used up... They could have sat on it longer and then brought out whenever they felt like but no they had to do it now so now we have to wait This is terrible! This is worse than House of Cards. Poor guy well yeah that poor guy sometimes reality is so much funnier

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No Agenda Art and Executive Producer Credits

The hosts thank Jay Moon for the episode 856 artwork and encourage listeners to submit non-gruesome, high-quality art to the No Agenda Art Generator. They begin the donor thank-you segment, acknowledging high-tier contributors who support the show's value-for-value model.

no agenda art· jay moon· executive producers· donations· podcasting· artwork

1:12:09 Well, I don't know how fun- it's actually not funny. At least in the way i see it but... It's amusing. I agree Okay And with that! I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C stands for Clinton Apple Server Dvorak Well in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry, also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feeding the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning everybody out there in chat room knowagenostream.com good numbers today record numbers could everyone in I also want to thank Jay I'm sorry There's nothing to do other than listen to our show on Sunday, a holiday weekend. You're right! I want to thank Jay Moon who brought us the artwork for episode 856 that was the EU Gougers episode and this was nice about his art but there weren't a lot of submissions but at the very end we were looking at some Google suggestions and one of them was Clinton is toast and he had the toast up in like 10 minutes later it was Clinton on a toast yeah and it fit it was nice I liked it really worked well

1:13:09 That felt good. Yeah, and considering nobody else sent anything in it was easy to pick up NoahGeneralArtGenerator.com please check it out check out what our great artists do and if you feel like submitting go ahead do it now you never know If it's not used for the show album on. To be used in the future, make sure not to put a show number on it because then it can't be used in the future you're taking one shot and that's it, that's no good and make sure that typeface is big enough so its kind of readable cause if does get shrunk a little bit yeah And keep our pictures off of the art we banned ourselves from the art probably five years ago

1:13:54 And some, every once in a while somebody goes back and I think they look at the old stuff and say hey I have an idea. Look it they're using their own. How come nobody's doing that anymore? Then they send a picture with us or one of us so that gets immediately rejected. Also don't make it so gruesome like reject anything remotely gruesome or just unattractive. Yeah! It's just...I don't want to cringe when I see the art. Some tips for the artist. Nice We have a few people to thank, executive associate and executive producers for show 857 I believe. Yeah 8-5 or 7. Starting with Dame Pamela in Allegheny New York came with $520 which is 10x the birthday donation

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Dame Pamela and Darcy Romero Donation Stories

Dame Pamela and Darcy Romero provide significant donations, with Romero sharing a personal story about her "enlightenment" through the show and her frustrations with "brainwashed" colleagues in the education system. The hosts perform a "de-douching" ceremony and discuss the social consequences of being a cynical media consumer.

donations· chemtrails· enlightenment· teachers· truther· de-douching

1:14:45 Oh wow, how nice. Yeah she gave you 10 kisses. I would like to wish Adam a happy birthday. 10x. Can i get and she just that's it? She says can I get some sucking in soot chemtrails and the little girl don't eat me Hillary Hoping for many more happy and healthy years to come Adam. Okay? What she wants sucking in suit Kim Tim trails little girl don't eat me Yeah, I think we can do this suck it in soot Maybe she wanted the song She want the song or just the sucking and soot? I think she just wants sucking and soot but you can put the song at the end of the show. Yeah, we'll do that okay. Let's see... where are we uh don't eat me that's all oh chemtrails is what she wants okay here we go. Please don't eat every cleanser! That's a different one. That's the alternative. Where's the original girl

1:15:44 Yeah, yes it's the please and it's this one. Don't eat me Hillary Clinton! That one is still the best I think It is much better Thank you Dame Pamela highly appreciated thank you Onward to Darcy Romero $333.33 out of Burbank California I got an email from her I do too Oh okay go ahead That's interesting because she must have sent it separate so these might be different emails. Because mine was sent to the NOAAgenda at devoreit.org which doesn't show a CCDU but here we go I was hit in the mouth one year ago by my husband. In that year, since that year haven't missed an episode of her numerous people write into thank you for saving them in various terms. This is bullshit! You guys have ruined me by opening my eyes to how much of a slave I am and everyone else truly is it's too late to go back though enlightenment has already hit me so with that I must say thank you

1:16:44 I have an Obama-bought teacher friend who is all in for killery. One night out in the brewyard, we got into a political discussion and I know... Uh oh! What do we tell you? I brought up the summer deaths of the DNC staffers, of the staffer actually that one guy. But before i could get into all of it she covered her ears with her hands and said, I don't want to hear it! Wow That's good. Damn And she would have an Obama...she's a teacher. Oh fantastic another teacher

1:17:22 It's been about a month since that encounter and I'm still flabbergasted how someone can refuse more information that can lead to knowledge about a situation, especially someone who is educating youths of America. It depresses me greatly! I have so many friends who are smart well-educated and living Obama's American dream of just getting by thanks Obama or so brainwashed that they refused to think for themselves it is disheartening I can only be thankful that when i first overheard future sir scampers listening to your show, against her husband. I was able to keep an open mind even after immediately accusing him of being a truther! Turns out being a cynic isn't so bad. I would like a de-douching for this is my first donation after year anniversary of listening your show can I get a noodle boy and an Edward Scissors hand

1:18:18 What was scissorhands? Well, you know to say that he couldn't harm somebody uh You know with oh yeah. That's the guy who was talking about instead of ed snowden He was saying ed scissorhands the whole time in the interview Oh god Yeah, we'll play that at the end it's about it It's okay both those will be there give her some karma and then noodle boy as well a noodle boy as well Those long clips are the end There yeah, that's good. Good stuff Noodle noodle boy noodles kid All right, well got that. So she needs a de-douching and the karma obviously that's always good. You've been de-douched! Thank you very much for your very generous donation highly appreciated. You've got karma. There you go and welcome onward to George Oberhofer in Jackson New Jersey $300 he sent a check in the Senate longhand note

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Smith-Mundt Act Repeal and Hollywood Propaganda

In response to a donor request, the hosts explain the significance of the Smith-Mundt Act and its 2013 repeal via the NDAA, which legalized the use of government propaganda on American citizens. They play a clip from Martin Kaplan of the Lear Center detailing how hundreds of storylines in popular television are used to disseminate specific social and political messages.

smith-mundt act· ndaa· propaganda· cia· hollywood· martin kaplan

1:19:19 It's funny. Thank you for your courage, this is I have to it's gonna be slow here so going thank you for your courage in this difficult time we're having a balanced common sense having of a balanced common sense no agenda show makes you a Trump loving Republican. Yeah! I have three small requests two which are clips okay please recount recount the meaning and significance of the Smith-Munt Act. You can do that? Please play the clips where The Stooges explain how many Hollywood scripts they have... This is a good one, there's another one we haven't played for awhile How many Hollywood scripts they have been involved with And then please give everyone at Jobs Karma so they can donate Respectfully George Oberhofer

1:20:09 Okay. Quickie on the Smith-Mundt, that's you? Yeah. The Smith-Mundt Act was originally I think brought into law in the early 70s and this was after the Church Commission where we found out that the CIA had all kinds of agents and contacts with high level reporters and people in the news business...newspapers and television. They were working for the CIA. They also had CIA agents sometimes working in those positions And Mr. Smith and Mr. Munn said, okay here's new rules you may not create any propaganda against the American citizens and in the 2013 military or is it the

1:20:58 What is it called? The NDAA thing. Yeah, yeah the National Defense Authorization Act thank you in that as a subclause because of course today's media is internet there's no way we could comply with not propagandizing at least some American citizens they're on the Internet for gosh sakes So that was repealed. It was repealed in its entirety under the cover of night, buried away in one little section of this huge document which is really more about $600 billion dollars and therefore it's now no longer illegal to create propaganda against the American citizens and I believe it pretty much happening

1:21:35 Well, I think it was happening before then. Yeah but now at least it's legal so its just been nuts! What were the other things she wanted? Play the clips where the Stooges explain how many Hollywood scripts... those script fixers that you had. This is from The Lear Foundation. Martin Kaplan explains how the numbers work in Hollywood So, in the course of our work this is a two years 11 to 13 335 storylines that we worked on have been aired. We've worked with 35 networks in the past four years 91 different television shows

1:22:19 And that is for global warming, all kinds of other things they put in the scripts. All the propaganda gets in there. Yeah and then everyone's jobs karma so they can donate Jobs! Jobs! Jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! Nice thank you Merci George yeah it was good to bring that one back I forgot about it A lot of stuff. We bring stuff back! Meanwhile, dropping down to associate executive producers Dame Astrid our buddy. She's the Baroness of Tokyo. Duchess I think. Oh could be duchess you're right. Yeah duchess 250-252? 250-252 that's 252 your age 52 your age huh? Hey nice thank you Dame Astrid

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Birthday Donations and Drip Cold Brew Coffee

A series of birthday donations for Adam Curry includes a plug for "Drippo," a new cold-brew coffee maker. A listener notes that his girlfriend shares a birthday with Curry and Charlie Sheen, leading to a discussion about Curry's MTV legacy and his "birthday twin" listeners.

birthday· cold brew· drippo· mtv· charlie sheen· drones

1:23:14 Happy birthday, Adam. And stop fretting about the hair! You will always be beautiful with or without your hair. Oh thank you... So you can shave your head I think that's what you should do. Okay, I'm on it. Game Astronauts Sir Mark Dutcheson and Duke of Japan are all the disputed islands in Japan so... Thank you, I'm gonna give you guys a Karma because you always are there for us. You've got Karma You need to go visit them. Adam Anderson in Anaheim, California 252. Oh also nice thank you! Doom doom doom doom sending you 252 to say happy birthday to Adam and get a shameless plug for my new product Drip

1:23:53 Drip Oh drip. Oh, I thought it was gonna be something else like had the allergies brought you down in Austin Texas new drippos stops the drip coming out of your schnoz No, it's cold brew coffee maker found get drippo GTD rip o.com Slow cold brewed coffee that's got to be good stuff Thanks Adam. Here's some coupon codes and he gave you a coupon code for your birthday as a gift You get a cold brew coffee maker This is nice this drip Oh two-in-one travel ice drip coffee maker and tumbler Give a good luck with that looks nice, man. You've got karma Thank you

1:24:39 uh... onward to surge in scotts black night of the no agenda show roundtable and baron of dudes name ben and henry cove virginia two hundred okay i can crack pot and tubs assertions kate's or crockett and jobs sorry you know that is that's a that said it's a reference to an old show my me but it's not nice Sir James Cates, Black Knight of the No Agenda Show Roundtable and Baron of Dudes named Ben here. Been a boner for awhile time to address my lameness Dr Drew diagnosed me as a boner please give me a shout out to my new fiancee Robin and please play me at too good to be true two to the head and take that to the bank. And a karma?

1:25:29 Uh, might as well. It's almost too delicious to believe my friend. You can take that to the bank! You've got karma. Yay, yay! Thank you! Nailed it. Black Knight? Thank you sir. Nathaniel Mosman, a Moseman in Peach Tree Corners which is everywhere in Georgia 200 I've been a Noah Jenna... Is there a birthday coming up? I got an old Jenna listener since I don't know when I introduced my girlfriend to you around a year ago now she's a regular listener and often refers to it as the Adam Curry show Uh-huh Sorry Dvorak

1:26:07 She likes to be here. She often predicts what Adam's opinion of the news, she is in love with Adam. Yeah! She often predicts what Adams' opinion of a new story is going to be before it airs. Since she remembers Adam from MTV as a child and seems to always agree with him, she might have a mild obsession. She decided to Wiki-him and to her surprise they share a birthday. Oh! That's her me and Charlie Sheen to celebrate and donate to the best podcast in the universe. Adam and Dawn's, that's their name, birthday are gifting $200 and sending up a regular PayPal donation too! Thank you! Happy Birthday Adam and John your awesome too PS she loves it when John talks about trash day and trains

1:26:56 I'm sure she does. Keep up the good work, please play the drone song her favorite and the karma Nate and Dawn Adams birthday twin. Oh, thank you. I'll play the short version for ya You've got karma That concludes our executive producers and associate executive producers for show 857. And we'll be back later with the people who also helped produce this show, and also donated a nice $52 for Adam for his birthday which is yesterday. Yes thank you all! A couple of PR mentions...

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Killing Ed Documentary and CAIR Presence at Screenings

Director Mark Hall's documentary "Killing Ed," which investigates the Gulen charter school movement, faced scrutiny from representatives of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) during screenings. The hosts describe incidents of private security monitoring suspicious individuals at the theater who were believed to be recording the Q&A sessions.

killing ed· mark hall· gulen movement· cair· fethullah gulen· recep tayyip erdogan

1:27:39 As I said, leanerreport.com is now in effect Also i want to mention there's still some tickets left and Tina went to see the screening last week of Mark Halls film Killing Ed which you know this is a more final version I'd seen the version several months ago Very very good he's real this thing is tight And it's going to be what is the theater in Dallas? We'll go to killingit.com and when we were there... It was interesting. It was at the Alamo Draft House, which is a cool theater because you can drink and order food right there while watching the movie. It's low-key it's nice and when we parked next to this car which was filled with bumper stickers kind of like I got old Chevy Caprice or something... I love those cars! But the bumper sticker said Jesus Was Not A Prophet

1:28:38 The real God is a prophet. It was, you know, some bumper stickers like this and I'm like what the hell is that? And it was, you know, Islam rules...bumpers! Wow Yeah, it was too dark and we'd be on...and it was odd because he was right in front of the theater didn't want to be taking pictures cuz what I would have to use the flash but in there were representatives from CARE Yes, the Council on American Islamic Relations. And this was an anti-Muslim movie? Yeah well it's anti-Gulen. It's a Gulenist movie! Yes it's an anti-Gulenist movie and Care is now saying oh well looks like you know you're being paid by Erdogan saying this to Mark and we're gonna audit this film I wasn't there was one woman who had

1:29:24 a niqab on and two other dudes, and I really wanted to talk to them because that's like what do you think of the movie? I couldn't wait. But they split like 10 minutes before the end they left weak but he says at the Houston screening a Turkish looking guy came in as he was doing it I guess it was either a Turkish guy or Leo He was doing the Q&A I don't think he had a ticket he kept moving row by row down to the front The private security guy with me The private security guy with me freaked. I asked the Turkish-looking guy if we could sit down, security sat down next to him... It was a Ghulen dude and he was possibly recording what i was saying He thought it was all very weird so uh We need a little bit of karma for our buddy Mike Yeah this is.. And no one wants to really show this movie because yeah it's easier not too

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Jason Bourne Movie and Anti-CIA Themes

The hosts review the latest Jason Bourne film, noting its overtly anti-CIA stance. They contrast this with Ben Affleck's film "Argo," which received support from the State Department and credited Huma Abedin. The discussion explores the possibility of different Hollywood factions working for or against various government agencies.

jason bourne· ben affleck· matt damon· cia· argo· state department

1:30:18 Yes, you're not I instead went to the extreme opposite of that and saw the Jason Bourne movie. How was it? I actually liked it because I mean I but I Followed all those movies so I kind of know what the story is Because if you don't haven't seen their early movies You might not get get this way not at all but is so it was interesting to me Was I have not seen a movie and the other movies were pretty bad in this regard, but this movie was so anti-cia No, huh that it was outrageous. I mean it was like holy crap What is the point of this movie? And It was like did you stay for the credits Did you see if there are any credits for a competing agency that were in the credits? I didn't see anything

1:31:04 In the credits that were that caught my attention But it was and I'm thinking because you know his buddy is long-term buddy and writing partner Ben Affleck. Yeah Seems to work for the CIA I mean he did that movie, whatever that movie was, Argo or Bargain or whatever. That was actually the State Department funded. Remember Uma Abedin was credited at the end of the movie? Thank you Uma for all the work you did for us on this movie and then when he won everyone hated him so they didn't even nominate him for Best Director but he was able to get it. No they gave the movie a bunch of awards but they wouldn't even nominate him for Best Director!

1:31:43 And so I thought this was kind of a counter to that. So these two guys are working two sides of the fence, it's very interesting to me but this movie...I'm looking at wow! This is like really bad. Alright, I gotta go see that now Yeah you definitely have to see it for that purpose A couple more PR mentions Tuesday September 13th I will be live on The Night Attack show Oh, you're going to go do the dirty deed. Do the dirty deed and I guess Justin... what's his name? Justin Brian Robert something. Yeah he is flying in so we are all gonna be in Austin studios. People are excited people are pumped. Pumped! I guess this Justin guy is a big fan of yours and wants to meet ya.

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Max Keiser and Silicon Spin Nostalgia

Financial commentator Max Keiser reached out to the hosts to express his fandom and interest in being "de-douched." John C. Dvorak reminisces about Keiser's appearance on his show "Silicon Spin" in 1999. The hosts discuss Keiser's current work in London and his large social media following.

max keiser· silicon spin· john c. dvorak· stacy herbert· twitter· de-douching

1:32:29 Noagendatorance.com is working, so we previously were using some other infrastructure and now it'll be always featured on the homepage of the show notes noagendatorance.com if you want to receive our shows via Torrents... NoagendaTorrents.com yeah it has an RSS feed which was really nice And then I wanted to say in the morning to Max Kaiser did you see did I do get my email about him? No Oh he sent me a direct message on the tweeters Okay And he says, hey I've been listening to the shows. I really like them Of course i was on Silicon Spin with Dvorak back in the day and one day I hope to get dedouched! How about that?

1:33:12 And I checked it's really once he gives it, once we get the donation in with his name on it. He's going to get his de-douching of course, of course. He's living in London living a high life well, he should tweet our show sometimes you know how if he's listening enough to hear that? We do pull some stuff from his show. No, no, I told him that I had back and forth this way man sure no problem and now there's something someone is going on with his interesting that he sent me another direct message this morning let me read it back and forth here about maybe as a fan of yours Well, let me I'll tell you exactly what he said. Hold on a second Hi Adam just started listening to recent no agenda great stuff We'll start to listen more may need to get deduced at some point smiley face Max both John and I are fans of your show and have played clips from it many times beers I mean next time here in Austin I wouldn't go straight for the hey man Why don't you tweet us once in awhile with your hundred and fifty thousand followers?

1:34:04 He says, no yeah will do. I was on John's show Silicon Spin back in 2000 hashtag factoid Oops! I meant 1999 and he has a link to it. I put that in the show notes It says yes those are blonde streaks in my hair fellow hair guy Yeah, that's the connection And he says oh my show today interesting interview with Kim Doc Tom and his lawyer eyes promoting a show good good You know go everyone go watch Max's show today I enjoy his show. Yeah, I like watching Stacey he's kind of...I like her she's hilarious and now are they romantically involved those two? I don't really think so hmm I always had that idea He's got this other guy who comes on all the time was really is he romantically involved with him maybe i don't think so but i don't think so i don't think i don't know it's a good question you care when i'm not like you

1:35:04 I just listen for the facts, get the clip. Get to work. That's my way of doing it. Alright well we all know what i'm like then fine Thank you, executive producers and associate executive producers for a fabulous start to our show here. These are actual credits you can use anywhere credits are used an we'll be thanking more people It seems like we have some people also wishing me happy birthday We'll do that later on in our second segment And remember another show coming up on Thursday Devorak dot org slash N A M And maybe if your Max Keiser could go out there and I don't know propagate the formula perhaps Our formula is this...we go out We hit people in the mouth.

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NASCAR Sponsorship and Professionalism in Youth Sports

The hosts play a clip of a highly professional NASCAR driver flawlessly reciting his sponsors, including NAPA Auto Parts and Toyota. They express shock upon discovering the driver is only in the 11th grade, noting how early the "patter" of professional sponsorship is instilled in young athletes.

nascar· sponsorship· bill mcanally racing· napa auto parts· toyota· 11th grade

1:35:55 Shut up, slave. You know the future of advertising may be leon doing NASCAR does things especially in sports Yeah They get these patches all over you and everything like that Uh-huh And then you when you talk to any time we do an interview say I have to thank Ford other than my yeah Valvoline and by the way The valvoline car was working great today along with this such inside they always do this and I ran into This in the short doesn't they have a bunch of different other than the big stock car races? They have these short track race They have all these different Yeah, those little cars that flip over all the time. I like watching those. They have also stock cars in short track.

1:36:30 short track stock cars and I ran into this interesting driver who plays the role very well. He's apparently the leader in one of these leagues, and he's the leader they're trying to get him in there they have this interview with him And it was kind of surprising to me one aspect of it. He's very professional. He knows how to name the sponsors Well let me show you what I'm talking about by playing clip 1 here Is leading into these five remaining races? Oh, man. We just got to be smooth like we have been the whole season really and no take the wins when we can and and just take the best finish possible when we can't get the win. I definitely can thank everyone at Bill McAnely Racing, NAPA Auto Parts, Frontline Enterprises, Toyota TRD, everyone that really gets us to the racetrack to even be talking about what to do about these last five final races. It's cool being in points lead and...

1:37:23 Okay, that was slick. I like how he did that very slick slick The kind of the kicker though is in the second part of this clip listen carefully And then I want to just say and all the losers out there who are spending their weekends Just pretty much not doing much except. I haven't been able to clean my office and I have to do that. So, I'll put myself in that same camp as you listen to part two. Yeah, yeah. You heard right! He's in the 11th grade Oh my goodness! This guy sounded like he was in his 26-27 Yeah, he already got the patter down Wow He is a future star obviously Superstar Nice Perfect, perfect Hey there was... Points leader too by the way So yesterday I started getting these tweets like oh get your producer bit ready Get your producer... what are you talking about? And then of course it's like

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Donald Trump's Visit to a Detroit Black Church

Donald Trump visited a Black church in Detroit, an event marked by a controversial Reuters video feed where voices can be heard calling for a "blackout" or to "cut it" during a ceremony where Trump was being anointed. The hosts discuss the optics of the visit and the media's reaction to Trump engaging with minority communities.

donald trump· detroit· black church· bishop· reuters· media blackout

1:38:44 Cut it, cut it, go to black. Go to blackout! Go to- cut it, cut it, cut it!" Trump visited a church, a Black Church which has been this thing that all the talking heads have been calling for particularly our Black talking heads in America Well, if Trump instead of talking to a white audience maybe should go down and talk to people in the black church. So he goes through a black church! And first off very uncomfortable to watch him white man swaying along to the rhythm that's rather disappointing He is just as black when it comes to rhythm as Obama I'm telling you no rhythm No, that was bad optics

1:39:24 But then he was, you know the... there's this whole ceremony. They're putting the special cloth on him The bishop was gonna get it I think it was a bishop wasn't it? Anointed Yeah and then the video You can't use it on the show because if you really- I tried to ISO at left channel but you can't do that But you hear people saying okay we got to cut this No no no! I'm going to keep this on No no It's time to go And literally you hear blackout Blackout Cut it now Now, I'm not sure... it was a Reuters feed which everybody used. So that went out all- every channel had that and you could hear it kind of happen. Did people try to kill the bit? Yeah! Kill the bit we can't have him looking all anointed and shit That's no good We can't have THAT NO STOP CUT BLACK OUT BLACK OUT Sadly he couldn't here but I wanted to mention it And as a lead into the following two clips Two religious men One pastor

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Southern Strategy and Pastoral Perspectives on Trump

Two pastors offer opposing views on Donald Trump's outreach to Black voters. One reverend on MSNBC compares Trump's tactics to the "Southern Strategy" developed by Lee Atwater for Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. John C. Dvorak provides historical context on how the Republican Party successfully flipped the South by appealing to voters dissatisfied with the "New Left."

southern strategy· lee atwater· richard nixon· pastor mark burns· detroit· civil rights

1:40:20 Pastor Mark Burns, who is a Trump supporter. And then we have Reverend... I don't have his name right here and he is against Trump and they both had different takes as you can imagine They both had very different takes on what Trump was doing at the black church. So first let's play Pastor Mark Burns, who said something that I agree with and i've been saying for a long time it doesn't just go for him but also for other groups. more

1:41:14 all are the same everywhere. Well, that's not the case! We bleed red like everybody else." This is what I've been saying for a long time when you even say the African-American community... You're really being racist or bigoted at least. Yeah it's totally racist so the same thing you pointed out with gays. LGBT yeah it's the LGBT community. The gay community. Yeah no it's not all the same and all think the same far from it actually as we know. Far from it. There's no white community

1:41:56 You could the white community a bunch of racist a-holes you I guess that's it. Yeah, put white and community together No, no, no racist a-holes. You cannot do this at all at all at all Okay, so then we have this reverend on MSNBC and I just love the way this guy talked it was it was just fantastic The Bible says since he was in church by their fruits you shall know them. You cannot Determine the nature of a tree By the bark that it wears but by the fruit that it bears Donald Trump has borne bad fruit. He's born negative fruit, there are worms in it and when you eat it you get sick and when you go to the hospital he doesn't even want you to have Obamacare." I saw that like wow yeah smacking some rhyme like that! You can't judge the tree by its bark or by the fruit that it bears The bad apple Donald Trumps apples got worms in them And when you gonna eat that and you get sick you can't even get no Obama care

1:42:56 This is no more than an old southern strategy wrapped up in a new suit in 2016 pay attention John cuz I want to ask you about this new strategy It's the same strategy that Lee Atwater and those cats used for Richard Nixon For Ronald Reagan at the George Bush now. Do you read what is it? What does he referring to are you? Wait, hold on. Hold on one little bit. That strategy was devised back in the 70s and 80s and 60s to talk about let's use the Southern Dixiecrats—let's use the Southern Democrats who right now are voting Democrat—and divide them away from the Democratic Party. And let's use law-and-order states' rights. Let's use the language but not really go there directly. But we can divide them and get their vote by using black people

1:43:46 Okay, so what is this Lee Atwater strategy? Yeah. This was a so-called Southern Strategy. I believe it was developed during the Nixon administration as a way to kind of... It was questionable thing to do because what they had done is they and I think it worked. The South had been a strong Democratic party It was the stronghold of the Democratic Party and they had gotten to the point where they were winning everything because they were keeping blacks from voting for all practical purposes. And in fact, many of the states down there are predominantly black

1:44:24 And if they've all voted, they would have more black congressmen and the rest. They do have a lot of them now. So the idea was to get these Democrats who were not necessarily Dixiecrats as he says. They were not necessarily all in with the Democrats in so far the socialist ideas of the left that the Democratic Party had been pretty much taken over by. And so they figured they could by using code words about the state's rights, like he said. He is right about everything he says and all the rest of it... ...He could get them to switch parties and turn the South into a Republican stronghold And whatever the blacks did they did It was irrelevant The Republicans have been accused for being racist for doing this

1:45:14 But in fact, the strategy was just to turn these guys who didn't like the policies of the new left and the new Democrat Party which had been moving forward since anti-Vietnam. era. And that's what the Southern strategy was, and it worked! And that got Nixon in, it got Reagan in...he got in using the same thing, Ben Bush to some extent. So do you think they are using this exact same strategy? Is that how you read this? I don't see that now. In fact when you look at what is going on down there, Democrats have pretty much dominated

1:45:52 the black vote and most of the blacks do vote. And so you had problems with like Bernie Sanders winning a Democratic primary in the South, and it's... I don't think the strategy is in play like he seems to think it's an old concept that has kind of drifted. I think he's just old-fashioned. Okay Well, he is old-fashioned because he did a callback to his song from the 60s. As the target to demonstrate as to why they are suffering economically and they use that target Donald Trump has learned this is no more than a page out of that playbook Lee Atwater would be proud He would be pleased Because the same message that he gave back then to elect Nixon to elect Biden

1:46:37 Bush to elect Reagan is what Donald Trump is using in 2016 In the city of Detroit and around the country so if we don't know him by now Then we will never ever never know him. Don't you do no you I? Love that, I'm sure someone recalls it like yeah Although he was a little fast on the tempo I like that. I like that guy. Surprised he didn't refer to Chick Webb. See, I don't even know who Chick Webb is. Anyway yeah it's a... no it's not a contemporary analysis at all okay and so the other guys have got more going on than the other pastor. I've heard him before he was really erudite oh yeah

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Colin Kaepernick, National Anthem, and Francis Scott Key

The hosts analyze the media's shift from discussing Colin Kaepernick's protest against the flag to an agenda focused on abolishing the national anthem. They critique PBS and Democracy Now! for pivoting the conversation toward the slave-owning history of Francis Scott Key and the controversial third stanza of "The Star-Spangled Banner."

colin kaepernick· national anthem· francis scott key· flag protest· pbs· democracy now

1:47:28 Well, I've got something interesting. Because I made this prediction about the national anthem and... Uh-oh! Your prediction was it's toast? It's toast. And now uh... The reason I make the prediction is people say well how do you make a prediction like this? Well one of the things you do is look for anomalies. Things that the media is... In the media, the media is behind it And so they're gonna, once you see the media behind something and then you start to say okay well this is trending. I mean it could be stopped but i just don't think it will be and a good example of that is what's going on in the country right now we have Colin Kaepernick

1:48:07 And Colin Kaepernick is a football player who's not standing up because he thinks the country is unjust. There's no reason to stand up for the flag in the national anthem. Specifically, he says it's unjust where white police officers are killing African-Americans Right. So let's play a few of these clips, starting with... Do we have Kaepernick 4 on here? I see four, yeah. Four PBS, yeah. Yeah okay well let's start with the beginning this is the first report of Kaepernick and the Democracy Now! And more NFL players are joining 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick in refusing to stand for the national anthem.

1:48:52 began the protest last week, saying, quote, "'I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people and people of color,' unquote." Well on Thursday night 49er safety Eric Reid joined Kaepernick who kneeled during the anthem ahead of a preseason game against the San Diego Chargers. Neil now she says anthem twice Mm-hmm Kaepernick says flag flag. Let's play the ISO here, okay? She quotes him all right I am NOT going to stand up to show pride in a flag for country that oppresses black people and people of color unquote Okay, okay now let's listen to Kaepernick himself this is camera clip 3 Okay, here we go oops

1:49:38 Yeah, Kaepernick doesn't want to show up. Here we go I'll continue to sit i'm going to continue to stand with the people that are being oppressed To me this is something that has to change and when there's significant change and I feel like that flag Represents what it's supposed to represent in this country is representing people the way they're supposed to I'll stand Now what did he emphasize there? The flag. Yes, he emphasizes the flag talking about the flag this Kaepernick thing is about him not standing when the flag goes by during the anthem but no that's not what the agenda is. The agenda is...is the anthem even though Kaepernick doesn't seem to know it they're just playing along so let's play PBS and their interpretation of the whole thing where they don't even bother

1:50:26 really paying much attention to what Kaepernick's actually saying. the controversy, but in a way I think we should probably thank Kaepernick because he's really gotten this into a deeper history of the anthem of the author of the anthem of the background of the author of the anthem you know Fred Scott Key owned slaves and there was this very controversial third

1:51:08 you know, third stanza of the national anthem which maybe talks about being very kind of unsympathetic. Yeah, you're right! You are absolutely right. Let's take this guy's protest and turn it into our agenda... Which is get rid of the slave song. Yeah I was... You nailed it! Hold on hold on point point for you thanks 20 to 1 It disgusts me, to be honest about it. How they will take somebody who's got some sincerities doing one thing and then they'll twist it to make it about something they want to do! And I would say...I would even blame Amy on this because she kept saying anthem-anthem-anthem even though he keeps saying flag-flag-flag. Right right right. So these guys don't even talk about the flag on PBS They go right into all of this. It's Kaepernick protesting Francis Scott Key

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Potential Replacements for the National Anthem

Following the prediction that the current national anthem is "toast," the hosts evaluate potential replacements. They discuss the merits and drawbacks of "America the Beautiful," "God Bless America," and "My Country, 'Tis of Thee," noting that the latter uses the same melody as the British national anthem.

america the beautiful· god bless america· my country tis of thee· national anthem· british anthem

1:52:07 Holy mackerel. Anyway, I think you're absolutely right John How how would this you need to get this to a next level so that now first of all we have laws on the books Which again? I've listened very closely Oh man particularly serious 127 the progressive channel oh my goodness another bunch of white gay guys talking about how great it is Grease guy's great there was sugar and they don't know nothing about yes The slave song the national anthem gotta get rid of it Yeah, you nailed it. Well we should start rehearsing the new one which is America The Beautiful. It's either going to be America The Beautiful or God Bless America that's the second one and the third one is America the song that goes my country tis of thee which has actually been modeled after the British national anthem

1:52:57 It's not a drinking song at least, but it is the tune is still stolen So it's got to be one of those three songs and I don't think it'll be god bless America because there's a little too much God right the second one which is America the beautiful is a little less God And my country, Tis of Thee or the song America is got almost zero God but it's stolen from the British national anthem. It looked like a bunch of copycats and makes us look like idiots. Right? And I don't know what they're going to do and I know they're not going to write a new song. So it's gotta be one of those three songs unless somebody can dig up some old olds Confederate, not confederate, but slave owner song or something that slave wrote in 18th century. Yeah, that's the ticket

1:53:44 Mean it's they maybe there's something in the waiting in the wings where they're gonna bring some all this is a overlooked song that was written by you know, Bo Bessie You know back in 1840. Who knows? I like over the case It's gonna be something like that Do you remember do you remember well we'll keep it in the book because yeah We've made your case if you have updates along the way and we find something that said we'd love to hear more Do you remember The whole concept of reverse speech where people say things but then in a, in an alternative dimension at the same time the reverse of what they're saying is contained speech as well or some would say hidden messages. Yeah and of course it's old play the record backwards right you can't do with the CD

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Reverse Speech Analysis of Clinton and Trump

The hosts explore the theory of "reverse speech," which posits that the unconscious mind speaks backwards simultaneously with forward speech. They play several examples from the 2016 conventions, including clips where Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders supposedly reference "Satan" when their speeches are played in reverse. The hosts ultimately remain skeptical of the findings.

reverse speech· john oats· hillary clinton· donald trump· bernie sanders· satan

1:54:32 Well, our favorite example of course was President Obama. This is from 2008 when you know with the crowd yes we can yes we can and when you play Yes We Can backwards you get Thank You Satan. And that's very clear it's clear you can hear it. Thank You Satan. So there was a professor who specializes in this about reverse speech He has an entire website about this his name is John oats. He's from Australian Australia Australia. And let me just tell you the theory of reverse speech because I have a couple of examples that he has made and I think they're interesting to listen to. Human speech has two distinctive yet complementary functions and modes The overt mode is spoken forwards, and it's primarily under conscious control The covert mode is spoken backward and is not under conscious control The backward mode of speech occurs simultaneously with the forward mode as a reversal of the forwards speech sounds

1:55:34 These two modes of speech, forward and backward are dependent upon each other and form an integral part of human communication. One mode cannot be fully understood without the other mode In the dynamics of interpersonal communication both modes of speech combined communicate the total psyche of the person conscious as well as unconscious Covert, the final point. Covert speech develops before overt speech Children speak backwards before they do forwards Then as forward speech commences the two modes of speech gradually combine into one forming an overall bi-level communications process You're not buying it I don't think

1:56:15 Well, I would go along with it until they got to the part where the kids speak backwards before they speak forwards. That was a stretch. Okay. Well so he... Babbling bad. He has done an analysis of several ... well, the one I liked the most is The Democratic National Convention with Hillary Clinton and The Republican National Convention with Trump. And there's a couple other in there if you're interested So, what he's done is I have this audio file. Of course I'm interested! I thought you would be... I have these audio files and what you'll hear is the sentence usually short sentence and then the last words

1:56:52 There'll be a little pause, then the last words will reverse and they'll spin it down in three different sections so you can hear what the word is. I'm not going to say what the reverse speech is...I'd like for you to be able to hear it otherwise I think it's complete confirmation bias obviously like that trick you played on me! Okay let's start with Hillary and you tell me if you can understand the reverse speech? What happened in this city 240 years ago still has something to teach us today. Now we're going to reverse it. Eat a sin. Eat a sin. Eat a sin. Now were you able to hear that? Were you able to eat a sin? Hear this sin, hear this sin Okay well I didn't hear that as I heard eat a sin okay here we go let's try this one

1:57:48 That kept me working as hard as I could in the sun. Not that one this one. Here we go this one I'm happy for boys and men because when any barrier falls in America it clears the way for everyone. To reverse it? Men is law free! What'd you hear That's long and furry. Then it's all free is what you're supposed to hear Oh, then it's all free Yes So I'm happy for boys and men because when any barrier falls in America clears the way for everyone And her reverse speech is then it's all free Let's try this one You have...I'm not liking this cause your not getting anyone really right Lets try this one We are going to make sure that economy works for everyone Not just those at the top

1:58:45 Girl screw him in office. Could you hear it? Girl screws him in office. It's I'll screw in an office I'll screw in an office. Yeah, at the top so it's kind of like a microaggression against Bill is the conclusion of that. Oh okay Let's try one more Here we go You have to keep working to make things better even when the odds are long and the opposition is fierce Okay reverse Great Satan Great Satan Great Satan

1:59:26 Yeah, I got that. I thought great Satan worked! All right let's go to Donald Trump now the Republican National Convention and here we go this is a good one i like this The Democrats on the other hand received 20% fewer votes than they got four years ago not so good not so good okay reversing Dude was stunned. Did you hear it? Something was stunned. Yeah, dude. Dude was stunned. Oh dude was stunned. Which kind of makes sense! The Democrats received 20% fewer votes they got four years ago. Dude was stunned so he's kind of speaking the truth let's try this one out here

2:00:14 our trade deficit in goods reached nearly, think of this. Think of this! Our trade deficit is 800 billion dollars yet...think of that! Okay reversing. What did you hear? They lynch you. Yeah, you got it they'll lynch you exactly they'll lynch you here's another one illegally stores her emails on a private server deletes 33 000 of them at reverse steal it what'd you hear spielman steal it steal it oh yeah all right last one then it is time to show

2:01:06 the whole world that America is back. All right, reverse? I will hunt bullshit. Our war hard oh shit. Yeah, yeah, I wish you could. I guess it's not all that great. I thought it would be better stretch to say the least hmm well then Bernie Sanders maybe maybe there's something good there Hillary Clinton is far and away the best candidate to do that. Alright. Fsleet nil here.

2:01:53 Satan milks you. Did you hear it? Satan milks you! Yes, yes, Satan milks you and that was the whole theme of everything Bernie Sanders was saying like the last one Hillary Clinton is listening to the scientists who tell us that if we do not act boldly in the very near future there will be more drought more floods And reversing it near the celsius I'm sure you got that one. Something about Satan, but I didn't think... She's here to sell Satan Oh yeah well that makes nothing but sense to me Hmm I thought it would be better I guess it is bullcrap I guess It IS bullcrap! But its funny Yeah well you didn't get that many right I thought they were a little easier to hear No I think he got one maybe right

2:02:53 Well, I guess i'll give it to myself then. That clip sucked! But wasn't really a clip... It was worse! Those clips- A whole package of suckage sucked! I really tried. You can't all be gems you- Was the second half of show thing that uh..you know? I think where your heart was in the right place so thank you all with Satan All right, well let me see if I can redeem myself. Switch some topics here... Oh! I do have a climate change clip we haven't had a climate change in awhile maybe we should open up the gate for a second.

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Climate Change Linked to the Syrian Civil War

Public media reports suggest a link between a five-year drought in Syria, caused by climate change, and the rise of ISIS. The Department of Defense projects that climate-driven desertification and sea-level rise will lead to increased global migration and political stress, particularly in the European Union.

climate change· syria· isis· drought· department of defense· migration

2:03:41 Yeah, this could actually almost be a two-parter. This is up in your neck of the woods KQED is that not your public television station up there? All right well they had some salient words on Syria and you know how the history of what happened and how that went down. The rise of ISIS has been shown through a couple scientific papers to be fairly closely tied, uh...to a five-year drought that happened in Syria was really linked to climate change. I think you're forgetting the fact that Hillary Clinton was responsible for ISIS according to Donald Trump. There actually is no drought in California according to one these candidates

2:04:21 Right, you know the end while the politicians are talking about this The Department of Defense and their quadrennial defense update looks at all of these issues and projects more problems with migration more political stress like we're seeing in the European Union because of that driven by climate change and driven by desertification drought or Sea level rise. There you go That's what creates the wars is just the climate Yeah Just the climate doing its bearing with anything although on this day in 1913 September 4th, 1913 Texas had 108 degrees Right now we're looking at 87 degrees in downtown. Austin's obviously global cooling now This brought me to an interesting little diddy of Bill Clinton Your start climbing I hope

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Hurricane Hermine and Shifting Climate Models

Meteorologists discuss why the United States went ten years without a major hurricane strike despite climate models predicting increased storm frequency. The narrative has shifted to suggest that while storms may not be more frequent, they will become more intense with stronger winds and heavier rain. The hosts mock the "skill" of short-term climate modeling.

hurricane hermine· climate models· ipcc· global warming· sea level rise· meteorology

2:05:10 I'm on Syria actually. Oh, because i did have a climate... Okay well they kind of went together because you said if you start to open the gate? I know! I'm keeping the gate open bring on your climate So we're watching PBS and there's this guy comes on because there are little hurricanes floating around the coast. Tropical storm. No, they call it category one at least. Hurricane which is meaningless it's not a major one but so they have this new guy on the news hour who he's not going to be there long if he keeps doing stuff like this This is hurricanes, the hurricanes. It doesn't say one but just says hurricanes. With Hermine heading up the east coast of the U.S., we take a closer look at the science and frequency of these hurricanes William Brangham is back with more

2:05:54 Hurricane Hermine is the first major hurricane to hit the United States in 10 years. Sandy, which did tremendous damage in 2012 wasn't a hurricane when it came ashore So why such a long period of time since the last major hurricane? To help answer that I'm joined by Sean Sablett He's a meteorologist with the research group Climate Central so Sean just take on this question not that anyone is really complaining about this But why have we gone ten years since the last major storm hit this US We really have been lucky at this point. Weather patterns change from year to year and the Atlantic Basin has been active over the past decade or so, but the steering winds at any given time have largely directed the major hurricanes away from the continental United States now to remember a major hurricane by definition is a category 3 or greater storm a three four or five and

2:06:47 Ermine was a category one storm and like Sandy, certainly doing a lot of flood damage but did not really attain what we technically define as a major hurricane. One of the things I know is that a lot of the climate models initially had predicted that if, if the temperature globally goes up which it has and oceans have got warmer which they also have then we would see more of these storms in a greater frequency of this storm. So are these models somehow contradicted by this last decade? Not necessarily. I think what most have begun to indicate really, if you go back to the most recent IPCC analysis or the consolidation of the research is that they're not necessarily going to become more frequent but

2:07:31 there is going to be the tendency or at least likelihood that the ones that do form are going to have more intense rain and very likely stronger winds. So, that's the ones that do manage to develop will likely be stronger and in fact sea level has continued to rise as a lot of the polar regions have seen the glacial ice melt that will compound any kind of storm surge flooding that comes from hurricanes In other words, they're changing the story already. Yeah yeah first of all we're gonna have the worst hurricanes ever! We can pull old clips oh there's going to be more of them and they're going to be coming all the time this is going to be routine

2:08:10 Yeah. And they went on and on now we have a clip this part to the guy still kind of hounds his guy little bit because he's saying what these models are not it's not what were told and then it comes up with the cock-and-bull stories so this last 10 years and the model is that you're describing they don't really help us understand what the next ten years could look like for the US Yeah, for the very short term there is not an awful lot of skill with those particular batches of climate models. The shorter term is really kind of that area that most the work needs to be done but we do look for the longer-term trends when we think about climate change. No! So in other words... yeah just to summarize

2:08:52 the short-term models, like predicting what's going to happen tomorrow or the next day. You can't do that but you can predict a hundred years from now. Of course! It's science would you be quiet? So that makes nothing but sense if it says not cognitive dissonance I don't know what is. That's exactly what is. Well The New York Times had a big article yesterday headline, flooding of coast caused by global warming has already begun. And then underneath that scientists warning that the rise of the sea would eventually imperil the United States coastline are no longer theoretical and it goes on to talk about the cost Of course we know that the global warming you have this whole Paris Agreement IPCC is the African nations mainly want money

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Federal Funding for Coastal Flooding Mitigation

States like Florida and Georgia are seeking hundreds of millions of dollars in federal aid to combat coastal flooding attributed to global warming. Proposed projects include raising streets, installing pumps, and elevating sea walls. The hosts discuss the practical realities of living through storms, such as power outages and property damage.

florida· georgia· global warming· federal funding· sea walls· infrastructure

2:09:48 But that's not the only people who want money. Florida wants money, they got a $400 million plan that has to you know includes raising streets installing pumps elevating sea walls and I think everyone gets a wetsuit i'm not sure but you could certainly throw in a couple hundred million for that so the reason why this continues to be big on the agenda in the United States is also because all these states Georgia is now doing as well they want money from the federal government And yeah, there's problems with water. Tina lived in Florida for a long time and so whenever there is a storm or possible hurricane she's always interested watches the story says you know it's really not the storm. The storm is really not the problem. So what isn't that scary? Yeah, you know the winds howling its nasty but

2:10:36 It's the weeks after the storm when power is cut off, your food is rotten in the fridge. You can't get gas. Your house smells like a damp Petri dish and that's the horrible part of these storms. So that's why... Sorry? I think you did a wonderful job with all the descriptions until it got to damp Petri dish Yeah, I don't know why. She could have been a wet dog or she could... I think that was my... Old socks? That was my interpretation. You're right! I don't think she actually said that. She said wet damp something-I can't remember what it is. I think wet... What are you saying socks and shoes? No, wet dog is good. Wet dogs are good?! Wet dogs, that smells nasty yeah, I agree. Yeah. Yeah. Wet dog. Or monkeys now. Yeah

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Bill Clinton, Syrian Refugees, and Detroit Rebuilding

Bill Clinton spoke about the potential for Syrian refugees to help rebuild Detroit, citing the city's 10,000 empty structurally sound houses. The hosts investigate potential connections between the Clinton Foundation, major investors like JP Morgan Chase, and the policy of settling refugees in economically depressed areas to provide cheap labor for construction projects.

bill clinton· detroit· syrian refugees· clinton foundation· jp morgan chase· urban homesteading

2:11:20 Okay, can I get back to bill now? I mean to the yes area. Yeah, well you got a close the climate gate then of course close again everybody Okay I'm always looking to see how the and now of course since I've been following Charles or tell him always looking to see what the Clinton foundations are doing because it's more than one Bill's on stage here at one of the gatherings and he is talking about Syrians. Now we know that Donald Trump has told us many, many times that Hillary Clinton wants to bring in 500% more Syrians it's always Syrians! More Syrian refugees... We don't know anything about them blah blah blah And indeed on the books there is a plan to bring in you know significant amount of Syrian refugees

2:12:16 So Bill's talking, you always got to wonder are there connections? Well I think there is a connection to be made between the Syrian refugees that...and was she responsible for that policy. I guess she was. Her initial policy carries and is continuing it, I presume. Yes, I think so. It's Kagan's policy and she carries it out. So Bill is on stage talking about the Syrians and he has a little factoid in here that I didn't realize. And as I heard this, it was only a minute, but as I heard this thought well it sounds like maybe there was a little deal going on there with some things

2:12:53 Tell me about Detroit. Detroit went into bankruptcy, I know JP Morgan Chase come in and invest and a whole bunch of other big... I don't know any of this that you're saying? We talked about it on the show. I didn't know about JPMorgan coming in. Hmm. People have invested in different kinds of crazy things but it's still vague to me what is going on at Detroit. So Detroit was pretty much rubblized I mean, really in...not without bombs but their houses. Yeah, a new different version of rubble isolation. And it has to be built up again so I would presume that there are commercial companies who were in there and they're gonna- They're starting with the downtown which they are building up and they're moving their way slowly up the streets. So there's money to be had in the rebuilding of Detroit? Right? I would think so.

2:13:43 It would seem like it. If it was a bigger enough project, I don't think there's money to be had if you want to go buy a cheap house. No no no! If your in the construction... economic hitmen in the US how about that? Detroit, whether we were responsible or someone brought it down or whatever happened. Detroit rubbleized going to bring it back up. We bring in our guys who are going to rebuild you'd think maybe there was a connection with the Clintons I may have found one truth is the big loser in this over the long run is gonna be Syria This is an enormous opportunity for Americans Detroit has 10 thousand empty structurally sound houses

2:14:25 And a lot of jobs to be had repairing those houses. But Detroit just came out of bankruptcy and the mayor's trying to do an innovative sort of urban homesteading program there. And I think any of us who've ever had a personal experience with either Syrian Americans or Syrian refugees, think it's pretty good deal. I know what caused all the fear and reluctance. It was Paris because 6,000 people went from Europe I love that Bill has made up a whole country. ISIS land! That's really an A-hole way of saying it, actually. It's kind of weird. Oh yeah totally. Yeah like they went to Isis Land you know Syria Libya whatever the... ISIS land. People went from Europe

2:15:17 to ISIS land. About 1,500 came home if one percent of them was radicalized and sort of sneaked back in with evil intentions that's about how many people it took to kill all those people in Paris so people are thinking like that but the tradition of the Syrians is amazing in America most Syrians live or the largest Syrian settlements are in Cleveland and Dearborn Michigan Is it by any means thinkable that there is a huge community in Dearborn, Michigan? That they are great workers. Anyone who knows the Syrians know they're hard workers and great workers. They're great! They may even be great builders so it's really sad that we can't bring them in I'm thinking there was some you know do you see the connection

2:16:09 Yeah, there's a connection of some sort. Somebody did a deal with someone or I don't know what the connection would be but it's definitely something to miss. I'm a builder and need lots of cheap labor. Hey Bill! Cheap labor? Hey Bill you got anything? You know those Syrians are really good can you get me another gross Assyrian please? I need some masonry work done okay hold on i'll talk to Hill. Hill can you up the immigrants yeah no problem Well, that's funny because there was mentioned specifically in one of the news reports that they want to move these new Syrians that Hillary wants to bring in... ...TO DETROIT. Really? Yeah it was a direct comment! It wasn't like what now you're beating around the bush I didn't know yeah but I had actually heard someone say that they're gonna put these Syrians IN Detroit

2:17:00 So, what you're supposing is already underway. It's already under way so then of course the question is who's building in Detroit? I don't have the answer but I'm going to go look at that now and are there connections maybe donations to The Clinton Foundation it would be a direct correlation to policy! It wouldn't take much just to figure it out but yeah you're definitely right Yeah, that's what they're going to do. A bunch of Syrians I thought when they were gonna do it...I didn't have it from that angle but that's why I didn't make the clip but when I heard this is all they're just trying to load up Michigan so votes Democrat I just thought of it as a political thing. I didn't think of it as more sinister thing. No, you're right! You nailed it. Exactly what's going on. Gonna move a bunch of Syrians in to make sure... Is this guy a carpenter? Can you pound and nail?! No, I'm a doctor. Perfect! Ouch!! No, perfect! Doctors don't go in there. There has got to be a nail pounder or something. Hmm. Used to be an architect. You're in.

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ISIS as a Revolutionary Movement and Africa Expansion

An analyst on RT compares ISIS to historical revolutionary movements like the French and Bolshevik Revolutions, noting their use of terror to preserve their ideology. Despite losing territory in Syria and Iraq, ISIS is reportedly taking root in unstable regions of Africa and Central Asia, following a strategy detailed in their manual, "The Management of Savagery."

isis· french revolution· africa· abu bakr al-baghdadi· jihad· revolutionary movement

2:18:03 Yeah, sounds right. All right. Hey let's go to Detroit will be taken over by Syrians yeah well the food will improve Let's put it that way I want to find out what company is using and buy them like much right also Detroit if you'd go there usually recommend everybody Go there while the Packard plant is still up go their hipsters No reason to go Hipsters and Syrians, right? No reason to go. I'm sorry go on what you're saying and see well We can go a couple of different ways we can go to Euro land Well, I think though let's before we do this as you're bringing this up the Syrian thing Let's I ran into watching little RT And I ran into this guy so if I got his name here somewhere have his name. I'll dig it up he doctors I think is Scott

2:18:52 This attra a trend it's got a trend Anyway, he was on Sophie. I usually don't watch Sophie What's so fair? No, it's so Sophie is this talk show with this woman Sophie and she they're just oh it's our tea Yeah, yeah, son art. Yes, Sophie's yacking away at somebody or this is the first time I've heard anything like this in And I thought about it and said, wait a minute. This guy might be on to something We have to consider this as a possibility we're not considering...I'm not considering you're not considering i don't think the news media is considering but its possible that what this guy says is true I dont know which clip to play sadly Oh! Im sorry I should've taken care of it I'm looking, im looking, im scanning ISIS IS REAL Ah ok yeah couldn't derive that They just didn't want their heads taken off so they ran away

2:19:45 So you had 350 ISIS soldiers drive away 18,000 Iraqis within a matter of a few hours. But you know, you would think that these horrors they would actually repulse people no? but they help them gain supporters I mean for me looking at it i can't even look at it and have to close my eyes how does this work the other way around? I still don't understand Basically what I'm asking is that, is ISIS appealing to sick and disturbed people more than normal people? No it appeals to the people who span the normal distribution. It's like any revolutionary movement that's why even calling terrorism or just extremism is beyond pale from an evolutionary perspective everything new is extreme And its very much like the French revolution or even the Bolshevik revolution or the National Socialist Revolution Look at the French Revolution

2:20:40 They were eating one another, just like Nusra and ISIS and the other groups are eating one another like bloody sharks. And they were invaded by a coalition of the great powers. And yet not only did they survive but they endured. And they introduced the notion of terror itself as an extreme measure, as they called it for the preservation of democracy in every revolution since then, every real revolution has done pretty much the same thing and pretty much successfully. So wait, are you saying that ISIS has a chance to be successful and actually create something viable? Oh, yes. I mean if you look at the speech by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi last year of the Volcanoes of Jihad speech in November—I mean he's developing a global archipelago so that even if ISIS is driven out of Syria and Iraq it's taking root in other places especially in Africa. Their Bible is called the Idarat el Tawahush which means the management of savagery or chaos

2:21:33 And their plan is to go wherever there is instability and chaos in the world to take root. Of course, Africa's an entire continent of chaos much as Central Asia, and that's where they're moving in." Okay now Is the parallel here ISIS head chopping and the French Revolution guillotine? Well that's what I thought about it because this guy mentions that this is no different than the French Revolution Now his mentioning Africa is also kind of interesting because I think that he may be onto something there, these guys can just learn their skills and then go down to Africa and kick some ass. Take over the place because that's all they need to do at some point but i was thinking about the head chopping thing cause everybody freaked out So I was interested in it The French Revolution and its head chopping And by the way this is because

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History of the Guillotine and Mass Executions

The hosts discuss the historical necessity of the guillotine as an automation tool for mass executions during the French Revolution. Between 15,000 and 40,000 people were beheaded, a volume that exceeded the physical capacity of executioners using swords. The segment explores the origins of the phrase "going to hell in a handbasket."

guillotine· french revolution· marie antoinette· aristocrats· automation· execution

2:22:24 of the phenomenal support we get that we can spend our entire day on, you know doing things like this. I mean sometimes we read FBI documents and come up with things no one talks about Sometimes we go off the reservation and i cant wait to hear this So I realized that the French Revolution, based on head chopping they chopped off everybody's head they could. All the aristocrats and i always like to remind people out there who are in the elite category of the elites uh that live down in Woodside or Atherton and places like that you could have your head on a stick overnight if you're not careful

2:23:03 And you get your head on a stick, it has to be chopped off to begin with. The headache is the migraine is crazy So the thing about the French is that they decided to chop off so many heads that they had to invent a device A mass production device called the guillotine To chop their heads off That's what got me thinking It was like why would they invent this guillotine because it was really cool looking when this thing came down Wait! That's the history of it? It was actually automation I'm thinking that because when you look into it, how many people do you think had their head chopped off in France during the revolution? I mean i'm going to think it wasn't as many as we thought it was but now that you mentioned that they needed a device to automate the business of it.

2:23:47 Okay, I'll go crazy and say 500 but it's got to be much more if it yeah. Okay how many between? 15 and 40 thousand people had their heads chopped off in France Wow and all we ever hear about is Marie Antoinette Yeah well they took her head off too, and they held it up, and you have one yelled yay They went around the place and found every aristocrat they could, I'm sure they mistook a lot of people. I'm sure a lot of them just passed as the bookkeeper and he got his head chopped off! If you think about the guillotine why it exists is because they had to cut off

2:24:24 Tens of thousands of heads and did one guy with a big sword, you know I can't do this anymore. I've already cut off 20 ads It's hurting my arm So they invented the guillotine and they chopped has like there went they were nuts nobody wants to talk about it Well, no it's not. I don't think anyone has taken the time to go look that up! I love you for that man. That's great yeah well why don't we introduce this? Wouldn't it be cool if ISIS started using something similar? The guillotine? Yeah at least people would understand it better. Well maybe they'd understand something... We're not going to get anywhere

2:25:03 Close to what you just heard right now on the network news. Let's put it that way No one's gonna talk about, you know 40 potentially forty thousand which is probably a low number I mean forget even that the fact I didn't know if the guillotine was invented because they had so many heads to chop off That's a learning moment Well why well its only logical? Why else would you invent such a device? Yeah, never never stood still never thought about it Next! Nice. We need a guillotine sound effect, don't I have one? No, I don't. I need one and the guillotine sound effect. Yeah then the head falls into basket which is the origin of going to hell in a hand basket yeah because you're going to hell with your head in a hand basket I think only a few they heads are kept in the back just

2:25:55 Down and rolled around I mean they're whacking heads. I mean, I feel sorry for I mean This is you to a panic population if you were a member of the French aristocracy Yeah, you would not have had to be freaked out yeah, I want being ahead chopping machine You know they just grab ya and your your screwed. You're gonna have your head chopped off There's trouble in in YouTube land People are crying, they're unhappy. There's this crap going on and it kind of flows into what we just said and how we're moving on to the stuff you won't hear on network news And we know this following term very well YouTube which is Google

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YouTube Demonetization and Brand Safety Guidelines

Prominent YouTubers like Philip DeFranco are facing "demonetization" as Google enforces stricter "brand-safe" advertising guidelines. Content featuring strong language or controversial news topics is being flagged as ineligible for ads. The hosts argue this is a form of soft censorship and reinforces the necessity of their own value-for-value donation model.

youtube· demonetization· philip defranco· google· censorship· brand safety

2:26:37 is warning people, and some of them are very prominent YouTubers making actual money with advertising that we're sorry. Yeah this episode you produce this video is not brand friendly or advertiser friendly or advertisers safe and therefore... Brand safe! I think brand safes what we always used And therefore you will not be able to monetize on this video it's been flagged as such And this has created quite a problem. And I just wanted to play it little bit so you can hear it, this is Philip DeFranco he's one of these YouTuber kids who's making a lot of money and several- I think he's doing over hundreds of thousands of dollars. Some of these people make yeah like real money! Yeah, real money and here he is with his most recent one. What's up ya beautiful bastards? Hope you're having a fantastic Wednesday welcome back to the Philip Defranco Show and let's just jump into it. Guys the first thing today is that I don't think that I can call you beautiful bastards anymore because apparently

2:27:34 and several other things I do are not quote, advertiser friendly. I had heard murmurings, I had heard a few YouTubers talking about it but we personally got hit with it yesterday. Yesterday's video and most likely many in the near future will not be monetizable here on YouTube based off of this update It appears it's because I use what they call excessively strong language And they're explaining they're doing it because they're just following terms of service that YouTube reserves The right to turn off monetization if a video doesn't follow our guidelines which would appear is my dirty filthy horrible mouth Does not and the thing is I will say I love YouTube obviously it looks like they're well within their rights to do this It's their damn website. It is also incredibly fucking concerning many times on my show I have talked about things that aren't great just horrible things by taking away monetization, it is a form of censorship

2:28:17 monetize a video where you're saying things that they don't deem okay. That's been described as censorship with a different name because if you do this on the regular and You have no advertising it's not sustainable But like I said YouTube is of course well within their rights here What really bugs me about this is this was either a purposeful move that they did not give creators a heads up on because I've seen a ton of people complaining on it, or they're just asleep at the wheel. It is also a little bit concerning to me because yesterday's video really the only things that were not advertiser friendly Not really much anything I said but the stories I was taught- Hey hold on a second can you stop for a second? Yeah it's almost over but yeah Is this guy...is this two people? No he's doing one of those kind of like- I hate that! Me too. I mean this guy should be demonetized just for that. I like that demonetized

2:29:02 It has demonized in it, demonetize. Sounds like he's two people the way he is cutting it back and forth yeah but I mean he's just cutting pieces out of this. Well its the old...I hate that! It sounds terrible and looks terrible when you see it Yeah it's the ol' Z Frank used to do that He kind of had a vibe with it And this guy's doing it Uh and apparently his working very well I thought it was two guys that sounded identical, which is another complaint. I would have had but okay Let him finish up his video really the only things that were not advertiser friendly really much anything I said But the stories I was talking about made the video of a social justice warrior screaming at her Lyft driver being incredibly rude talk about them all right mainly because of the Lift millennial because she and I read edited that for us. So play that later on Oh finally yeah, but

2:29:48 This is my entire point. We talk about the guillotine, we would be demonetized in a heartbeat for this stuff! In a heartbeat!! And now you've got these big successful people bringing in money, of course inconsequential in the world of Google or Alphabet ultimately. But for these people it's even though they're annoying? Yeah they're making money and now that rug is being yanked from under them and this is only the beginning! This is why we adhere to the only model that works if you want some real information It's the value-for-value model. I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah that'd be fab

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Birthday Donor Roll Call and Global Support

The hosts read an extensive list of donors who contributed $52 in honor of Adam Curry's birthday. Supporters from the US, Canada, Europe, and Australia are acknowledged for their contributions via PayPal and checks. The segment highlights the show's diverse and dedicated international audience.

donations· birthday· global listeners· paypal· ham radio· value-for-value

2:30:31 We do have a few people to thank for contributing to show 857. Starting off with $135.79 from an anonymous dude named Ben from Parts Unknown He sent a check in. And he said, I'm anonymous dude named Ben. Thank you very much. That's unknown Brandon Fenton in Colorado Springs, Colorado $125 it's split donation with the $52 happy birthday Adam and a 7373 73 I got my ham license right kilo echo zero kilo ECA Zulu Oh, I like that kilo echo zero kilo echo Zulu That's a nice call man. I like that. It's a very good one. Well seven threes kilo five alpha Charlie charlie yeah dittos

2:31:18 Michael Shoemaker in Kelseyville, California. One two three four five also it says happy birthday. It says happy birthday. Happy Birthday thank you. What is this? Cisco Sir Cisco said Mr. Cisco $104 and 40 cents from South Ridge Richmond Hill New York Matthew. Oh, that's his he says that's a year of Netflix streaming only I'm glad leaving this to the best podcast in the universe well Thank you Excellent now He wants a deduce You've been D douched good idea cut him out

2:31:54 Matthew Hurtert in Bolzberg, Pennsylvania 104. Mark Hall... Hold on we might as well do it! Hey I'm a douchebag Matthew says. I realize that never gave John anything for his 52nd birthday either so here's 104 for you to split Oh very cute Here is your buddy here in Austin, Mark Hall 104 John Robinet, $100 parts unknown. Two donations from John C. Dvorak 7699 and 7699. How does that help? What is that did you donate? Not that I know of. Interesting well thank you John! You're welcome James T Hawkins in San Marcos California 60. Dirk Besteman in Amsterdam 5555

2:32:50 Baron Sir Andrew Lemanson 5510 double nickels on the dime Olivia Tanguleg. Tangleg? Tangleeg, Tangleeg! Olivia Reno Livy 55... You can just call her Liv I hate the name Liv. I hope not! Sir Kevin Payne, Richmond Virginia 5432. Sir Milkman in Evington of Virginia 5269 James Murray in Huntington Beach California 5264 These are all 52 related so they'll say happy birthday at the end Thank you Happy Birthday, Happy Birthday Cheryl Skari

2:33:26 or scar scare 5252 which is could have been the donation number and yeah it could have been copy I did this what it was sir her blam and sugar hill Georgia 5233 He says happy birthday. Baron FudgeFountain KBTIY K8, kilo eights tango India Yankee now he says Happy Birthday Adam plus half a boob! Now play my jingle He did send the jingle but since we don't have boob donations I think it should play it you know he sent us a new one Yeah, we didn't get any boob donations today. Boobs! Boobs! B-b-bo-bo-bo-boobs! Boobs! Boobs! B-b-b-bo-bo-bo-boobs! Boobs! Boobs! B-b-b-b-bo-bo-bo-boobs! Boobs! Boobs! B-b-b-b-bo-bo-bo-boobs! Boobs! Boobs! B-b-b-b-bo-bo-bo-boobs! Boobs! It's cute I like that one too it was good. Good boobs jingle Now we need some boob donations There wasn't on there it's funny because they had a boob on there I know I saw it I saw it I forgot which one it was

2:34:30 Christopher Tropp in Sturgis, Michigan. Home of the great meetup. Yeah Oh these are all 52. Okay now these are all 52 so I'm gonna read them name and location These are all happy birthday Adam All $52 Wow And there's quite a few of em Feeling the love Let me get ready. Okay, Christopher Tropp in Sturgis, Joseph Castine in McDonough Georgia, Anonymous in London England, Baroness Monica Lansing...Monica! In Drayton Valley Alberta

2:35:07 John Jolly in Yukon, Oklahoma. Really? Sir Kevin McLaughlin parts unknown sir Derby Dyke in Tucson Arizona Clark Pruden in La Jolla California Sir Kevin Lacombe and parts unknown Steven St- Strusinski, Strusinski in North Sydney New South Wales Alejandro Chapa in Houston Texas. Hold on John I think you missed a couple did you do Sir Derby Dyke and Clark Cruden? Yeah Oh, I'm sorry my mistake You were on a roll I thought you missed it I'll shut up. You're gonna be stopped again. I'm sorry! That's like getting out of the motorcycle in Reno that cold winter night Yancey Summer or yeah also in Houston 52

2:35:52 Iancy, that is. Richard Bowersox in Cedar Rapids Iowa. Aaron Huber in Petah Tikva someplace. I don't know where that is but Aaron Huber or Hoober Paul Vittorino and Olof Kansas Sir Chuck Walters in Schaumburg Illinois Mark Pledger or Pleager in Beaver Creek Ohio Radu Pertut Pertuk, Pertuk parts unknown. John Akin in Babson Park Florida Vincent Farrell in Milpitas California that's right down the street from me Joel Renoso in Chippewa Falls Wisconsin Miles Comer in Walnut California

2:36:37 Robert Verderber, Verderber. Verderber! Verderber one of the two in Palmetto Florida named after the bug. Naveed Khan parts unknown Tim Leopard in Marietta Georgia Gregory Surplus and Parkville Maryland Kevin Bowling in Watsonville California Eric Von Martyr in Van Nuys California Kay Callen-Nistore in Northville Michigan Ron Driggs in Salt Lake City Utah We don't get enough donations from there. Jason Verner in Schertz, Texas These are all 52s Fernando de la... De los Reyes, de las Reyes, de las Reyes His son Lucas Yeah same birthday as me nice Another one Sierra he's in Sierra Vista Arizona Melissa Hodges in Oklahoma City

2:37:28 John Knowles in Murfreesboro, Tennessee along with Patrick Coble. He's actually also in the area and Fairview. Scott Rendon $52 parts unknown Steven Johnson Carmel Indiana John Oprah upper in Florida Julian Barlow in Farnworth Great Britain Andy Kluber in Terre Haute Indiana John. This is really quite overwhelming, this is really beautiful. Yeah it was very... they love you Adam. John Groomling in Battlemont Mesa Colorado Wow that's good sounds like a great town Miami Florida is Louis Pastore

2:38:10 or Louis, it could be his middle name is Al. He would be the inventor of the al pastor taco Carl Otto Rosenquist in Sweden Yes Michael Zelina in Lakewood Ohio John Michael has a call out Nathan and call him on as a douchebag please Donate there's a douche bag John Wilson in Mexico New York That's what it says. Jonathan Joby in Vancouver, BC Eric Hoff in Edmonton Alberta Kevin Scott and the Netherlands and Hurtos Gun Guns Bosh there tokens balls And so I said Richard Riley and Loomis California Sam Godwin in San Jose, California Daniel Tomas in Washington DC we don't get enough donations from their

2:39:00 Robert Dreykussen in Oshkosh, Bogosh Wisconsin 52 Christian Segoin in Quebec Canada Duane Fowles in Moses Lake Washington Timothy Pettigrew in La Jasca Pennsylvania David Jeffries in Towanda New York Eric Schmidt in Frankfurt, Deutschland. Tanya Wayman-Wyman, Tanya Wyman, Dame Tanya Wyman in New York City. Jerry Bissell in Bendon, Oregon. Gail Johnson in parts unknown Steve Edwards in Centerville Ohio and finally last but not least Oh Tina Snyder in Austin Texas. The keeper! Awwww. Aww that's sweet What does she say?

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Tina Snyder's Birthday Message and Show Wrap-up

Adam Curry's partner, Tina Snyder, sends a coded birthday message to the show, referencing "Thor" and "Tiger Beat." The hosts conclude the episode by reiterating the value-for-value model and thanking the audience for their overwhelming support. They announce the next broadcast for the following Thursday.

tina snyder· birthday· austin· value-for-value· podcasting· thor

2:39:52 She says, happy birthday to my love. To the man who knows how to empty a box of garbage can... No no read it right! That's not what it says. Read it properly. Oh I'm sorry. To the man who knows how to empty... How to ant... No you're not reading it right. To the man that knows how an empty box meeting changes lives Who knows how to tightly wrap a blanket Who commands and directs all that is Thor. Really? Who knows how to drive a mean fire truck, and who can sign my tiger beat anytime! Okay baby finish the show and let's eat some cake!

2:40:38 That's a lot of coded messages. Thank you, baby! And we finish off with a few $50 donors. Message received... Many of them came in as checks and some came in just normal donations through the PayPal. by these people just continually donating $50. We really appreciate it, Stephen Chipman, Stephan Chipman or Steven Chipman in Santa Rafael, Robert Walls and Pulaski Tennessee Shannon Davis in Las Vegas Nevada Matthew Januszewski in Chicago, Robert Bruckner in Gilbert Arizona and last but not least Jared Soos in Chicago and Sir Brett Farrell our friend in Oklahoma City or thereabouts. Oklahoma that concludes our list of well-wishers especially well wishers birthday donors for shows 857 thanks everyone I'm sorry the chat room is very funny at the moment

2:41:38 Yeah, yeah that my cosplay is Thor. Yeah, that's true and people do feel you should have read that as a drunk donation I might admit Hey, I'm I am humbled thank you all so much it's very kind It's very its really that's yeah. I'm just I almost the loss of words. I have to say oh I really appreciate that. That's very kind of everybody, and of course everyone who helped us including those coming in under $50 usually for reasons of anonymity but also we have subscriptions lots of them would like you to jump into that as well and remember we do have a show coming up again on Thursday this is the value for value model You like what you hear? You give us what you think it's worth It seems to be working out okay for us Again thank you so much Devorac.org slash N-A

2:42:27 It's your birthday, birthday. I'll know that you're there. And we've got Nathaniel Moseman saying happy birthday to his girlfriend Dawn who he celebrates on the same day as I do September 3rd and anonymous dude named Ben celebrates on the 7th we say happy birthday in advance to him and Fernando de las Reas says happy birthday to his son Lucas he turned 11 on my birthday as well September third thank you all from especially me here at The Bed Podcast in the universe Nice. Very nice, well I did some work for y'all! I put together the lift clip Oh yes, I want to hear that Okay so yeah and interesting it's a number...the length is 3333 very good It'd be funnier if it turns out to be the same you also... It's six minutes again how can-how was that possible? No I don't think that would be that funny That was one of my more embarrassing moments

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Viral Lyft Millennial Conflict and Cultural Appropriation

A viral video features a young woman berating her Lyft driver over a Hawaiian bobblehead doll on his dashboard, which she deems "deeply offensive" and an act of cultural appropriation. The hosts analyze the interaction as a symptom of a broader "illness" of entitlement and performative outrage among the younger generation.

lyft· millennial· cultural appropriation· hawaiian bobblehead· gawker· entitlement

2:43:25 Hardly. Setting it up, this is a woman young lady, long lady, millennial who... I need to say that because this all came on the heels of Tina and my experience with this woman who thought it was really crazy about her height difference and her insecurities about which on the no gender Reddit they're like oh there's bullshit that didn't happen you know he's lying what? Okay, so that did happen to me and we went through that story if you want to hear it You can go back an episode and listen to it. I love that right see I don't bother with this sort of the reddit No, I wouldn't read that oh, I know of course I scan all that stuff That's your my beat. It's my beat yeah some often good links would often just like wow okay

2:44:07 Okay, and she of course is always looking for something to be offended by because that's what it seems to be these days. And the guy has a little Hawaiian bobblehead doll with the grass skirt and the ukulele on his dashboard which he put on with super glue...and she is opening this discussion with him saying you know this is horrible for the people of Hawaii, which she calls the continent of Hawaii. The raping and pillaging of Hawaii. And then it just degrades from there until he finally just kicks her out of the car and good for him. continent of Hawaii oh you didn't okay so you won't get rid of the doll then because that was like really cute thing to be fun at Goodwill but it's so obviously like us like a white male you're like the least like I'm not judging you

2:45:00 Perhaps like you might be the person who is least hurt in this situation I'm a passenger in your car like that doll is offensive to me But you don't want to take it down because you were like founded at goodwill and there's Yeah, no I do want you to because it's actually deeply offensive. Now I do want you to take it down You're gonna be on Gawker know on you will be published on Gawker And you'll be like the next internet meme it's gonna be super funny. Yeah I mean like God forbid, anyone take your special Hawaiians all away from you Because it's a thing that actually affects my life and the thing that doesn't affect your life It's actually super rude So which part of it is not?

2:45:53 It's not sad it's important did you say it was pathetic can I have your name, please? That's a disrespectful object that you have in your car and whether you're Asian or not, you should be considerate to the fact that you might have passengers that don't find that thing to be... No I just said like you can set it down for a second. It might not be amusing to all passengers You're going to experience this again by the way And so i hope from this lesson today... No I'm not being rude Oh because I wasn't nice enough to you?

2:46:33 I wasn't nice enough to you for this thing. And as this ends, it ends in the same way that my experience ended where they try to guilt you, guilt you, guilt you and then say oh your deflecting if you say anything else and at the end they wind up calling your names! It's really an odds illness That's fine i've been video recording the entire time I did No you're not You have been actually very rude and extremely entitled Yeah, I'm sorry that you have no consideration for actual Hawaiian people who don't want to be a bobblehead item in your car while you're driving for lifts. You f***ing selfish dumbass idiot!

2:47:15 Yeah, that name calling thing at the end is really strange. It's what do you see with the Hillary? The Hillary Trump thing going on there to call out Trump for the racist comments supposed racist comments where he says that Mexicans are rapists some of them and but then they start calling him a moron, a clown an idiot, a fool. In fact Greenwald did the same thing had these same terms as guys, a clown, a moron, an idiot And then they make these piñatas out of him and pound him with baseball bats. So it's like another 40 seconds, so she keeps this up and he's like no I'm gonna let you out now you really have to get out of my car. You are being rude! You have no connection to this culture. That's a cute little bubble item that you had in your car that you don't know anything about and you're an idiot. Thank you very much for your opinion

2:48:12 You're welcome. Maybe you'll think about it tomorrow when you wake up in the morning. No, we can take me all the way to my house. I don't have to. It's not far and I'm just waiting for things to drop off. Here is a sidewalk. Have a wonderful night. Thank you! Yep. I am so excited. Can i have your name again? Nope. Have a great night. Yes, I can. Can I have your name again? We will all stay here then. Well done. Oh my god, this is my car. Can you please get out of the way? No I won't call the police! Call 911! Okay... I bet her I won't leave your car. I wish she would. Can you please exit from your vehicle? No I can but you can give me your first and last name Here's what i'll do instead Holy s*** The weirdest night of my entire life And he could not get away fast enough so that I couldn't get his license plate number How cute Oh my goodness

2:49:12 We're doomed and people are red clan that you didn't have that experience. You made it up Yeah, its obvious is going on all over the place by this woman yeah And it seems to be looking for something that could be a violation, bringing it up. Then drawing someone into your appropriating culture... You're insensitive you know? You have no right! Throw in there, you know, you're a white man even though the guy was Asian. Uh, you're a white man so none of this bothers you but and that's I didn't get the white man thing but I got a lot of other things and it ends in the name calling. Your dick or whatever

2:49:50 It's an odd thing. And you didn't do anything? Calmly minding your own business... Yeah, no you recall that I was walking behind her and then Tina and I were walking behind her and then all of a sudden she moved right over into our path blocking us! Blocking us! And then we tried to pass her on the left and she moves over to the left. Then she engaged saying, well you know lots of people have insecurities about their height. I don't it's kind of annoying i bump my head a lot and then he just kept on going until she winds up insulting Tina by saying well your pretentious. And I look at her like excuse me? And then you're a dick! Oh man...

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Self-Esteem Movement and Engaging Social Activists

The hosts trace the origins of modern "entitlement" to the self-esteem movement of the late 20th century. They discuss humorous ways to engage with street activists and "grassroots" fundraisers, suggesting that pretending to be deaf or using insulting sign language could be an effective way to bypass their scripted talking points.

self-esteem movement· baby boomers· entitlement· social activists· aclu· sign language

2:50:30 It's the oddest, oddest thing. Yeah it is very odd. But we're on the lookout for more of it. Some of this in the food! Well did this really start with a noodle boy? I mean that was our earliest detection of something going vastly awry with our young people. I don't know when or how it started... Because the real movement really began in the universities. And it was a... and talk about what is it they said white man's your white privilege, yeah but more than that It started with mansplaining and a lot of that misogyny insulting stuff, a lot of insults White privileged What is it when you have I can't think of this word

2:51:19 When you get, you have your social security and you get your money it's called a... It's like... This is an interesting question. How many syllables? Movie, book what is it? It's about five syllables and it means or four about four syllables and it means you get something for nothing. Entitlement? Yes entitlement! Jeez wow okay yeah but that's right this is so they throw entitlement at you while they're the ones that feel entitled to do that exactly So there, of course this is again projecting you take something that's your the one that's entitled and then you throw it at somebody else as a condemnation.

2:52:03 But their entitlement, it seems to come from the way they're raised. The whole generation because they were raised by the largely baby boomers and mostly baby boomers probably a few ex-gens And they are the ones that went through the thickest part of not self improvement but the self actualization crap When you have a good feeling about yourself, you have to be really another word. I'm looking for affirmation No, no, it's when your you don't say anything bad nobody has competition There's no competitions who were just so hold this hold hands and tell us secret Nobody wins nobody loses there's no cut You know you can't compete this sort of thing which is like To foster a competitive atmosphere But we laugh a lot now everyone hugs

2:52:53 It's the self-esteem movement. You're right, that's what it was. I think the self-esteem movement combined with the other stuff has created these monsters. Well maybe we should play the new... And they go into society and they see that the reality is not what they were taught to be or what they were told it was going to be like and it's unfair And so they, because of the self-esteem thing they take... They lash out at it and they lashed out on you cause a little girl didn't know that there were going to be tall people out there. She'd have to walk around them and all the rest of it I don't know but I'm just saying this something... Well let's follow this through So we kind of now what to identify We know the words to identify You know hey whitey although that doesn't even have to be in there But it'll probably always be against a man certainly what we're seeing now

2:53:46 There is, you know the entitlement. You're entitled...what's the other word? Self-esteem. Now how what we need to develop for our producers is how to engage these people to have the maximum fun. See, I'm thinking when i first heard that clip that you're playing that it...I would use your approach with guys in the corner holding the petition. Yes! Would you like to save the children? No, I hate children thank you Yes, stuff like that. I did that with the whales guy so we hear to save the whales i said i hate whales yeah nuke the gay when it cracked up yeah nuke the gay whales oh really well he cracked up you know that's very funny they're all afraid of me now here in Austin because i'm on to them It's the same group it's the you know uh what is it grassroots

2:54:40 Texas Grassroots Foundation. It's just a local foundation and what they do is, they give kids a plastified data sheet to give them an iPad so they can sign people up in the data sheet has all the information that talking points they give him a T-shirt which I put on over their existing T shirt. So slip on a Save the Save the Children T-shirt or it's the ACLU T-shirt and say oh you know ACLU this is what we're doing but But and I say, and I always say do you work for ACLU? Yeah. No, I mean do you get paid by ACLU? Well all the money goes to ACLU. Do are you paid or are you employed by ACLU? Well no we're collecting money and we give it to ACLU. When you work for ACLU directly in that t-shirt that comes in your size I'll talk to you. And they know they do kind of start to cry a little bit

2:55:30 Oh, yeah. I'm such a mean man and meaning mean whitey now what do we do with? I mean, one thing would be to say why just cut straight to the Jason call me a dick right away so he can get over it so I don't have to go waste five minutes of my time but I don't think that's maximum fun no that's not good So i'm not sure what to do but I think you know I was talking throw some hand signs at him as though you cant hear pretend im deaf How about that Hello? Learn, we should all learn how to sign anyway. Everyone should do that it's a good little hobby Did I drop dead? Yeah you did but... Did i drop dead? Yeah got the gist We should all learn how to sign? yeah I think so Sign language is not easy to learn No there are actually two or three different versions of it too So you have to learn the one that would want to learn no it's not easy but it's not hard It's not like really hard because there's like this simplified language just like learning foreign language

2:56:35 And I think people should just know how to do it. In this case, you could just sign at the guy and see what happens. Yeah, no. Here's what we need. We need... I know we have blind listeners. I know we have listeners who are certainly hard of hearing. I'm sure we have signers out there make a little YouTube video of something that is like in sign language which basically is go pound sand or something really rude in sign language. I'm sure. Something rude? Yeah and that would be our little personal joke. That would be very funny just a little bit, just one sentence that's insulting as hell

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Noodle Boy Union and Zika Spraying Consequences

The hosts revisit the "Noodle Boy" clip, a classic example of a young worker demanding a union and worker control at a fast-food restaurant. They transition to news from South Carolina, where mass spraying for the Zika virus reportedly resulted in the accidental death of millions of honeybees.

noodle boy· unions· zika· bees· south carolina· environmental impact

2:57:13 Do you want to play the noodles boy just so we can remember? It doesn't really fit in the end of show sequence. Okay, play it now and then we can do a couple more clips and wrap So this was from... when did we first get this noodle boy thing This is good five six years ago I have uh yeah this is probably a duplicate Yeah I think your right its gotta be maybe four or five years ago There's a guy who got a job at the noodles chain of restaurants which to serve noodles and the early sign of the depression. And he's bitching about his job!

2:57:50 Yeah, and about how unfair the owners are. And that they really need to... Because they make them come in at a certain hour? Yeah they make them start on time it's crazy! They tell him to do things Well like I described earlier there are two fundamental classes that aren't just a plain fact in society You either work for someone else or you work for yourself and most people work for someone else In a way that they aren't free You don't really get to decide your worth For example I work at Noodles a restaurant And basically it's a dictatorship there. We're told exactly what we're going to cook, how we are going to cook it and what time we are going to get there. Basically if they don't like what they're doing they try and tell us what to do but if you don't listen then they get rid of us so we aren't able to actually cooperate in any way that we make decisions together I tried to convince my fellow employees that we should have a union at Noodles So it is a source of power to start with

2:58:43 And then I think in terms of the bigger picture, when you look at revolutions the way that you actually get rid of any sort of dictatorship is by having workers take control of the place where they work. Would your plan...your vision for noodles? Sure. Would it include the owner? What capacity would he be granted here? If the owner wanted to cooperate with us as an equal and provide his skills that he had, we would definitely cooperate with him. We'd have to abdicate his position as being an owner and controller of us And he would have to recognize that...we run this together and basically if he doesn't want to cooperate with us He's against us Yeah the owner could join in if you wants I mean yeah, we could have the owner a part of the company That'll be okay If you know if he wants to like play ball with us

2:59:38 What an idiot. It's one of my favorites, it is a classic that's why we keep playing every so often yeah it is a classic I just wanted to mention I don't have any clips of it but in South Carolina they're spraying for mosquitoes to kill you know to get rid of Zika because oh my god! We're all gonna die from Zika Yeah they killed all the bees Now is this confirmed that all the bees are being killed by this spraying and what kind of morons I thought the bees is one Of the most precious resources we have well. No, I don't know what they're thinking There's somebody just made a mistake now A lot of people are talking about this being some binary thing you know You spray everyone like bugs with the first dose and then all you need to do is roll out the last one and then Everyone's brain explodes That's a good one

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Guccifer 2.0 Sentencing and Putin's Denial

Romanian hacker Guccifer 2.0 was sentenced to 52 months in prison for unauthorized access to protected computers, including the DNC network. Meanwhile, Vladimir Putin told Bloomberg that Russia had no involvement in the hacks, arguing that the content of the leaked emails is more important than the identity of the hackers.

guccifer 2.0· vladimir putin· dnc hack· wikileaks· romania· bloomberg

3:00:27 I got a clip. This is a clip that nobody talks about because we have to stay with the regular narrative that Russia's hacking everything. Of course! And so, but meanwhile Guccifer has been jailed for 52 months or some... Yeah like over four years now this is this guy from Romania he's not from Russia No, and he's just a... And he's the one that claims to have hacked and released the data. He probably did! Why would he claim it? I didn't throw me in jail?! If he didn't because of denying it then maybe not be in jail Makes no sense. So clip

3:01:04 In Virginia, the Romanian hacker known as Guccifer 2.0 has been sentenced to 52 months in prison. In June, Guccifer claimed responsibility for hacking into the DNC's computer network—he is thought to be the source of the 200,000 DNC emails released by WikiLeaks in July. Hold on! What? He was extradited from Romania earlier this spring and has pled guilty to identity theft and unauthorized access— What?! —to a protected computer. Wait a minute. Was this the same woman who kept saying it was the Russians? I don't know that she blamed the Russians so much as the other networks, but everyone blames the Russians and nobody's talking about this guy who says yeah, he did it and they threw him in jail. Yeah, he wasn't denying anything. And you know why would he say it if because it's crazy thrown in jail Putin at an interview with Bloomberg. Yes, I saw that. Yeah.

3:02:00 Okay, a couple of questions were asked. Of course no clips I wish he can speak English you should just do it my god Do it already man you'd be great Russia has no links to the hacking of the Democratic Party servers Putin says I don't know anything about it and on a state level Russia has never done this He said, denying the accusations that Russia had broken into the US Democratic Party servers. Is it really important who broke into the data of Mrs. Clinton's election headquarters? What's important is the content that was presented to society." Wow! Okay... Yeah, I agree. Of course. Sounded pretty partisan there. I thought this was a interesting story because nobody's talking about this, of course but I think this is a significant story

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China and Ukraine Antonov 225 Production Deal

China and Ukraine have signed an agreement to restart production of the Antonov 225, the world's largest cargo aircraft. Analysts suggest the deal is a move by China to acquire Soviet-era aviation technology and establish its own assembly lines for massive transport planes.

antonov 225· china· ukraine· aviation· cargo planes· technology transfer

3:02:49 The Antonov 225. The big-ass plane? The big giant one, yeah. World's biggest plane. Now China is getting its hands on the world's largest plane which was first developed in the Soviet Union in the 1980s Well the original cargo aircraft was made a modern-day Ukraine which has now signed a deal with Beijing to restart it production together The agreement also lets China make its own copies of the mammoth machine Hong Kong based political analyst professor Joseph Cheng says the deal makes Kiev more economically dependent on Beijing Alright. So they're gonna build a plane, you know they've only built one or two of these things Oh it seems like they got 20 of them really? Well they got the smaller one but they don't... The big giant with six engines I think its eight isn't it eight engines No no six and now I did a bunch looking at this old planes there was an eight engine plane that the Russians did build the Tupolev Yeah that's what I'm thinking about World War II is a monster yeah thats what im thinking about They Russia's build big planes but theirs are Ukrainians

3:03:51 And so they build this plane, the Antonov which also goes back in history of building big giant planes. So now the Chinese are doing a deal so they're going to restart the production there was never a production to begin with. They only made one or two and I think 2 maybe sounds like something else is going on. Yeah, they're gonna say they're gonna let them build him in China. The Russians are going to start really rekindle their aviation business and the Chinas are going to build him for I don't think that's it. Oh, I think the Chinese did it and this is Ukrainian by the way not Russian Oh so Chinese are just doing to steal their plans and build their own Exactly yeah gee China copying something hmm Yeah So they're gonna take them Antonov They're gonna put a Nantzanov assembly line in China And they're gonna learn how to build big-ass planes dang so why didn't they learn how to Build Concorde let's bring that thing back again That was fun

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Apple Tax Ruling and Irish Government Appeal

The Irish government has decided to appeal an EU ruling that ordered Apple to pay 13 billion euros in back taxes. Despite the potential windfall, Ireland is siding with Apple to protect its reputation as a low-tax hub for multinational corporations. The hosts note that the tax amount is roughly equivalent to Ireland's entire national medical debt.

apple· ireland· european union· tax ruling· illegal state aid· multinational corporations

3:04:46 That would be better or something, anything different. Okay I just have two quickies to get out of here...two quickie clips and the first one is well as we just you'll hear about this of course we have Apple coming up with a this is not a tech news but kind of Apple coming up this week with that I think the announcement their iPhone 7 maybe oh maybe a new iWatch Apple watch You deconstructed, as I was putting a little package out there that hey maybe Ireland was getting a little tired of not making this much revenue from Apple and they went to the our first girl and said hey you know anti-competition lady could you please get us some money? And then we'll just... so help us collect the tax money.

3:05:33 That was your thesis, I like it a lot. There's a little kicker to that which i didn't get the clip of Okay Which is apparently that amount of money is exactly the same as the Irish medical debt or whatever their budget for You're kidding me No its exactly the same amount apparently Oh my goodness on that shit another point for you I'll just play this here's one either to the official a official word from Dublin the Irish government has decided to appeal against an EU ruling that your 13 billion euros in unpaid taxes from technology giant Apple Dublin is siding with the world's richest company

3:06:15 and rejecting the huge windfall for its treasury because it says it disagrees profoundly with the EU ruling. It fears multinational companies would leave Ireland or not move there if it's forced to change its tax and business model The European Commission has ordered a payment on the basis that Apple's low-tax arrangements in Ireland constituted illegal state aid. Oh, there they are! Oh no we're going to protest this Yeah, I'm still with you. I think that's...that is... So anything that makes sense! Absolutely the right thing to do. And then they're playing the old game. Oh no! Stop! Stop! Stop! I like it so much and then this news from France of course we've always been just amazed at the situation of what do they call that camp? The tent city at Calais on the French side of the Channel

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Calais Jungle Closure and Italian Refugee Housing

French authorities have announced the final closure of the "Jungle" migrant camp in Calais, which houses an estimated 9,000 people. In Italy, public anger has erupted on social media following an earthquake, as citizens compare the temporary tent shelters provided to Italians with the four-star hotel accommodations used to house refugees.

calais· the jungle· france· italy· refugees· earthquake· facebook

3:07:08 Yeah, they have a name for it. Yeah they do I can't remember the name. The jungle! The jungle right well They're gonna clear it up there sick and tired of it. I thought they already did this Oh no every time I turn around they're gonna clear it up now Now they're really gonna clear it up at least again to clear up the tents Listen to this report from Euronews. By persevering and being methodical in the implementation of these measures, we will find an efficient long-term solution for the current crisis faced by the city of Calais. I say it very clearly that all these actions will continue until the final closure

3:08:01 of the camp. I hope it happens as swiftly as possible." This is what awaits migrants hoping to enter the UK, the end of the line tents as far as the eye can see in all directions estimates put the population at up to 9000 even after the southern half of the camp was dismantled earlier this year What will become of its inhabitants is yet to be seen. Nine thousandths a small city! Yeah, but what they're gonna do with the people they don't know. But they're getting rid of the tents. You know, the French are screwed up if they can't deal with this. Uh... yeah?

3:08:39 It's like a nightmare for anyone going in and out of that channel, especially truckers. Well not just that the city of Calais the people in the city... Oh the places are ruined! You know Willow called me from Florence for my birthday and had it nice long chat with her And just as it comes to migrants she told me a story That so she had said on the face bag Couple of like a week ago says I'm off Facebook for awhile. I can't stand it And I know that she, from what she's posted you know she has her thoughts about Trump being a dick etc. So I think maybe there was too much Hillary bashing? I don't know! No what turns out is there was the big earthquake which they felt a little bit of they were far enough away from the epicenter that there wasn't much going on but this was quite a tragedy and

3:09:25 People started to go ape shit on Facebook because we had these thousands of people who were suddenly homeless. The Italian government gave them tents, you know like temporary shelters and people went nuts because they're saying we have migrants living in four star hotels with wifi and flat screens, and they get 35 euros a day. And we have Italian citizens in tents." And Willow was like... It was just out when people were going nuts over it! She did deconstructed for me because when she first heard this meme about living in four-star hotels with wifi, she said here's what's really going on the refugee centers are indeed housed in old

3:10:10 four-star hotels. But you know, it's still bunk beds yeah of course they have Wi-Fi and flat screen TV but the 35 euros a day is actually the budget that each of these hotels has to pay for each individual so every refugee they have they get thirty five euros a day to feed them to clothe them to house them and I think the refugees get two and half euros a day or something out of that money. But still, you know the idea that you have this undercurrent of dissatisfaction, of course and then people take that to extreme... You can never again tell these people what they believe about the refugees in the four-star hotels They'll never change their mind and they just went nuts over it. So there's a bit yeah, the stuff brewing there It's it's a problem Yeah I'd say it's a huge problem Well, I have one last clip Good

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Samsung Note 7 Recall and Native Advertising

Samsung has issued a massive recall for the Galaxy Note 7 following reports of exploding batteries. The hosts deconstruct how ABC News used the story as a "native ad" for the upcoming iPhone release, seamlessly transitioning from Samsung's failure to the high anticipation for Apple's new product.

samsung note 7· recall· apple iphone· native advertising· abc news· lithium batteries

3:11:02 This is a, this is the, you know everybody played this. One of my favorite networks not for their political coverage one way or the other but for their use of native advertising is ABC, smartest in the group they always know how to turn any story into a native ad if they can now everybody was covering the Samsung exploding Note 7 Oh yeah! Is this there new phone? Yeah it just came out just came out couple weeks ago They got screwed Oh, totally. They got screwed by the I'm sure the Chinese battery company. What do you think it was sabotage to go along with the release of the new iPhone? No no there's just that they have such huge volumes that they need these quality control right Chinese occasionally yeah should this fine just ship it By the way saying native advertising I feel is kind of appropriating American Indians I think he should you know you should be sensitive on the culture There's another word to describe it It's called native advertising You should be sensitive to the culture

3:12:00 Well, we should. Now so there's no way that they're getting everyone is doing this story every ball blowing up and they have pictures of the ball exploding in these you know yeah here's ABC by the way you would fit in great with the tech shows. Here's ABC So ABC, this is a Samsung story. ABC decides to turn it into a native ad and just hits it out of the park. Tonight charged smartphones like this one triggering a massive recall Samsung confirming 35 reports of batteries exploding in its Galaxy Note 7 phones unveiled

3:12:38 just last month. The world's biggest smartphone maker now pulling the brand new model from stores in 10 countries, including the US. Ariel Gonzalez posting the remnants of his Note 7 to YouTube he says it caught fire while it was plugged into a Samsung charger no injuries have been reported. Samsung has already shipped two and a half million note sevens customers will be able to swap those for new phones as early as next week But this is a big blow to Samsung, which hoped to narrow its gap with Apple here in the United States with this brand new device. Apple expected to release its brand-new iPhone next week Tom? A lot of people waiting for that all right Rebecca thank you

3:13:22 A lot of people waiting for that. All right, thank you! Do you think it was paid though? Oh absolutely had to be really because at first they took the story yeah I've been watching ABC and studying this if they didn't pay they use it as an example how they could do this because first they do this story about Samson's got nothing to do with Apple And then they bring Apple into it in some sideways, and then they mention when Apple's coming out with the new phone. It's coming up pretty soon! And then they cut it back to the anchor guy and he says oh everybody is waiting for that if it wasn't for everyone waiting for that... Yeah I agree with you. Damn those guys They're good They are good They're really good They really know what their doing

3:14:06 Alright everybody fabulous. Is there is it football? It's college football on now We knowledge footballer started the whole thing started this last says who actually started I saw a part of the game yesterday There was a bunch of games and then we showed that how bad the pack 12 is So what do I watch today anything to watch, I think you have to wait until uh... I think out to wait nothing really important to watch Then I'll just eat cake Yes, yeah that's what I would do. I would just eat cake. I'm gonna be eating cake with candles With candles? Yes. Right now they catch the house on fire Okay i'll try She setting it all up at her place Well... Hopefully she got a fire extinguisher nearby That's what the fire truck is for Yeah Alright everybody

3:14:58 Thank you very much for tuning in. Remember we do have another show coming up on Thursday, remember us at Dvorak dot org slash NA thank you again for all your birthday wishes thanks for your support of the show thank you John and everybody else here in the crackpot condo in the skyscraper in downtown Austin Tejas We're in FEMA region 6 if you're looking for us until Thursday Good morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley I am John C. Dvorak We will return on Thursday right here On NO Agenda Hey, adios mofos! You might die. Suckin' in soot. You might die. Suckin' in soot. Flying over Afghanistan Or maybe it was Pakistan I promised myself to aim myself at every woman child and man That was on my list

3:16:11 I don't care if i missed. I'm remote controlled, I do what I am told by someone at a computer Obama gave me a push more than Bush and I cost millions I was supposed to target terrorists but not so much civilians I don't know what to say whoops some got in my... drone again naturally A drone again, naturally. CLASSIC! Alright doll it's been good to meet you I do want you take it down You fucking selfish dumbass idiot I'm a passenger in your car Yeah...You're welcome It's not sad, its actually super relevant No, on here will be published on Gawker And then the next internement is going to be super funny You're gonna see us at Gawkers

3:17:20 I don't know, but i do want youtube because it's actually deeply offensive on the continent and you'll be like the next internet meme is gonna be super funny. Because fucking selfish dumbass idiots are being rude! And then there will be like the next internet meme that's going to be super funny. Hey man fist bump Adios mofo The best podcast in the universe JustaVorek.org slash N-A