Episode 842 · Thursday, 14 July 2016

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Federal investigations collide with judicial ethics as the FBI closes the Clinton email case and a Supreme Court Justice enters the political fray.

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Attorney General Loretta Lynch testified before the House Judiciary Committee this week, repeatedly deferring to FBI Director James Comey regarding the decision not to prosecute Hillary Clinton. While Lynch emphasized a unanimous recommendation from a team of career prosecutors, Chairman Bob Goodlatte and committee members criticized her refusal to address specific statutes like 18 U.S.C. section 793F. The proceedings highlight a growing rift between public statements on classified material and the legal definitions of intent used by the Department of Justice.

In the United Kingdom, Theresa May assumed the role of Prime Minister following the resignation of David Cameron, who noted the Conservative Party’s record of female leadership. Across the Atlantic, Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg drew fire from Donald Trump after calling him a faker, leading to calls for her resignation over judicial ethics. Domestically, Florida Congresswoman Corrine Brown faces a multi-count fraud indictment involving the One Door for Education charity, while the murder of DNC staffer Seth Rich in Washington, D.C. fuels speculation regarding data analysis and election integrity. Meanwhile, a Harvard University study by Roland Fryer found no evidence of racial bias in police-involved shootings, contradicting prevailing media narratives.

Raphael Meshulam, the chemist who first isolated THC, headlined the CannMed conference at Harvard Medical School to discuss the endocannabinoid system and CBD benefits for epilepsy. The program also features a de-douching ceremony for donor Andy and a critique of George W. Bush’s behavior at a recent memorial service. Listeners are encouraged to meet at the Encore Lobby Bar in Las Vegas for the annual No Agenda meetup during the Defcon convention.


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CHAPTER 01 / 36 Discussion

Las Vegas Trip, Boxcar Evolution and Container Shipping

The hosts open the program discussing a recent trip to Las Vegas and the hospitality provided by Dame Angela. Observations are made regarding the disappearance of traditional railroad boxcars in favor of modern shipping containers. The conversation touches on the changing landscape of American freight transportation and the prevalence of various container sizes on modern trains.

las vegas· boxcars· shipping containers· freight trains· dame angela

00:00 Talk about overkill. all that ails society with our digital town hall and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in FEMA region 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where boxcar after boxcar goes flying by i am John C. Dvorak. It's crackpot and buzzkill! Bam! That's what I call an opener there are no box cars though these are these container things

00:39 Now they got the little bitty one. They got the big one and sometimes some trains would have two big ones, but now they get these little half-ones. Good old boxcar you could get into and travel around the country doesn't exist anymore? No it's just these containers I don't think i've seen a boxcar for couple years Just a few maybe The craps table! Hey hey yes oh that's right I was in Vegas Yes, indeed. What a segue! Well you said the craps tables that you started as well... Yeah that's what I said and did it for And I have to announce... Yeah we're not announcing anything unfortunately That's right We did not get married Had a good time though and I really want to thank Dame Angela in Vegas for hooking us up You know when you have someone who works in Vegas and has lived there almost all their life? They got connections

CHAPTER 02 / 36 Discussion

Pokemon Go Global Launch, Addiction and Mental Health Claims

Pokemon Go has officially launched in Germany, marking its first expansion into Europe following viral success in the United States, Australia, and New Zealand. While some reports claim the game offers mental health benefits by encouraging exercise and social interaction, critics highlight safety risks such as players stopping cars on freeways. The Auschwitz Museum and other historical sites have requested that the game be blocked on their premises to maintain decorum.

pokemon go· nintendo· niantic· augmented reality· mental health

01:31 I'm sure that we've got a few people that have connections. Yeah, you get like hooks to hook up with hotel rooms and comps and all kinds of fantastic stuff. Comps! That was really good. Had a good time 48 hours back in the saddle just in time for many town halls it seems like whenever we have a problem in America we need a town hall Town Hall will solve it all yeah Town Halls solved nothing You want to start with that or do you want to start with my favorite topic of the day would be Pokemon Go? Well, let's get Pokemon go out of the way. Yeah I think we should I have the as I call it the pokey psyops. I have the clip from Germany because it's just been released there And they're all excited I can imagine they are You Pokemon go game hella debt Have you gotten addicted to it yet?

02:28 I haven't downloaded it yet, but I might do of course only in the name of market research. Of course very good answer only Scientifically but social media here in Germany what to what news outfit is this where we have to let you Bella Oh So she had to disclaim that only for scientific purposes and not crazy like the rest of us as the country became the first in Europe on Wednesday where fans could download, finally, Pokemon Go. Well of course the game's quickly become one of the most viral mobile apps of all time topping the charts in the US now until now the game was only available in the U.S., Australia and New Zealand making today's German launch highly anticipated but not everyone in Europe was celebrating the arrival of the virtual reality creatures take a watch

03:17 Pokemon Go is blurring the line between the virtual world of gaming and the real-life world of public space. The augmented reality scavenger hunt is bringing people together in the most unusual places, all on an unlikely quest. It's probably as close to catching a pokemon in real life it actually gives you that experience we walked from Barkley Center to Brooklyn Bridge on Saturday just to catch pokemon Players download the app for free and can buy special features through the app to enhance their performance. GPS chips are used to map a player's real-life movements onto the game world, and the Pokémon characters appear through the phone's camera

03:59 But while Pokemon fever spreads around the world, people are finding out there may be some places where searching for Pokemons are inappropriate. How much longer is this? Let it go! The Auschwitz Museum in Poland has asked the company to block players while they visit the former Nazi death camp The former Nazi German death camp Auschwitz-Birkenau is not only just a museum today, it is above all a place of remembrance. A place where people come not only to find out history but they come for moments of meditation reflection often for prayer. It's inconceivable that we should treat this place as a place for games or to have fun

04:40 Okay, I was also right a band from Arlington National Cemetery and the Holocaust Museum in New York Well let's just talk about this for a moment before you have more clips because I don't have any clips That's all I got. I thought the Holocaust Museum was choice now Just give the background er that there's been you know circling around of course The big conspiracy is that Niantic Corp, which is a fully owned subsidiary of Alphabet I guess. And the guy who founded that company and thus made the game for Nintendo, he had previously created Keyhole which of course was funded by In-Q-Tell which is CIA venture capital arm. Then so of course this is all a psyops to get everyone's information which is what all apps are these days to get everybody's information. Like they need more information! Yeah I mean then and of course they made a mistake

05:42 And if you logged, because their servers were overloaded and if you logged in through your Gmail account it had access to everything. Does anyone have any illusion that there's...that the alphabet companies don't share information amongst each other? And that's why certain warnings about what permissions you were giving away didn't pop up. That's all we know this is Google. This is what Google does. Then it's a tremendous opportunity for Nintendo I think it's great and I think the end is definitely near As you said, people were congregating in places and just... it's zombies. It's complete zombification! And everybody was ready for it! The kids were ready for- not just kids! They're ready for it. They wanted this. And it makes me very happy because I think we immediately show that virtual reality is NOT going to take off the augmented reality of the games are gonna really engage people and turn them into zombies

06:41 Well, this game definitely did the job. It's engaged everybody. Everybody who gets into it is all... In fact the guy in Deutsche Welle used the word addicted. My kids who one of them you know 30 year olds well Jays 22 but Jaycees 30 They're all into this game to such an extreme where we had dinner. That's all they talk about yeah Chris What about that? How can you upgrade this I kind of make it do that how can I do this? How can I do that because there's a lot of apparently little buy stuff right you can buy stuff in the game well You gonna, but they avoid that conserve a Dvorak's hmm But well their half Dvorak's clearly because it's the fact that playing at it all is troublesome oh

07:21 Yeah, that's a problem. But there is apparently lot of idiosyncratic things you can do if you know how to this. If you turn left and twist the thing and flip it. There are all these things you can do to get more points or the rest of it. Or turn into something else which allows you to do something more interesting I don't have a clue. This is why I'm overhearing this discussion as though its important. I think it's socially interesting I'm really trying to figure out what is going on with the... First of all, Pokemon by itself has been bubbling under in culture for so long. My daughter who's gonna be 26 she of course played Pokemon when she was in grade school maybe even kindergarten

08:11 So I understand why this is all of a sudden, boop! It's like binary. You know you get them ready in the beginning and then couple years later, phewf...you launch this? I agree and I think that because Jay my daughter was a big Pokemon player when she was kid. I don't remember JC and I'm absolutely sure Eric Never played Pokemon as it was too much of a kids game when it came up, but but this isn't did This is transcended to pokemon to higher age groups that never played the game I love only half an agreement with that thesis. I love the The slew of articles coming out about how Pokemon Go is... has mental health benefits. Yeah! I know, well the reason why it has or why it's claimed to have mental health benefits is because walking around exercise by itself is good against depression just getting out and being amongst people that said thats reasonably provable

09:15 But when you see people saying, oh I have borderline disorder depression anxiety this really helped me get out of the house. As someone with anxiety and depression the fact that i've spent most of this weekend outside with friends is unreal hashtag Pokemon Go! Wooo! It's a very sad statement where we're at right now. Well yes it is but Even so I mean there's other way. I don't know where this is going to lead I think I already know it's led to people getting killed on the road People stop their car in the freeway because there's a Pokemon and standing there in the highway for some stupid reason why they're looking at Their phone while their drivings another thing till legal

CHAPTER 04 / 36 Discussion

Bill Maher and Chris Matthews, Hillary Clinton Email Defense

Comedian Bill Maher appeared on MSNBC with Chris Matthews to defend Hillary Clinton regarding her private email server usage. Maher characterized the controversy as a misunderstanding of technology by an elderly person rather than a nefarious act. Matthews argued that Clinton used a private server because government systems were inefficient for a "wonk" trying to perform government work.

bill maher· chris matthews· hillary clinton· msnbc· email controversy

14:26 Into old fogies and technology Bill Maher was on Larry O'Donnell show Lawrence O'Donnell Lawrence is it not Larry? It's Lawrence. Yeah, it's Lawrence Lawrence law readjustment my care Lawrence O'Donnell and he was taught if you had a lot to say Most of it incredibly bullcrap And of course he being a good Obot he needs to really explain to the people on MSNBC that Hillary meant no harm with her emails But in the way, he explained it was rather rather interesting Look. It's a hard thing for her I think especially anybody can explain the fact of why you're not credible with people when you're running for president but it also is true that she has been demonized more than anybody else for the last entire quarter century

15:17 Really more than anyone else. Yeah, I guess as far as the emails go I think mostly what that is is an elderly person and again We're not bashing the elderly here right to run for president Bernie for reelection, you're so... But as far as technology goes they're not great at it. I'm not great at it So I think she probably just didn't understand that much what she was doing You think thats the reason? She has a low number there? I think the important thing is what was the... That's not Lawrence O'Donnell That's your buddy Chris Oh, Chris Matthews. I'm sorry yeah Chris Matthews Lawrence O'Donnell yes my buddy thanks but she was the important thing is what was the intent with the email which was the intent something nefarious of course it was in fact

16:02 Most of the people in the State Department used a private server because the government server... You gotta listen to what he's saying before you jump all over him. Just listen to what he is saying, 15 seconds. ...in the state department used a private server because the government server wasn't efficient She needed a private server to get her work done Because Democrats do work Government work They don't hate the government they actually want to get it done What? She is a wonk who needed something that worked Wonk?! That was pretty good a

16:48 And I sat there, Tina and I were watching this. He was on for the whole show and our mouths would just open with the bull crap he was spewing. If you look at all the issues that animate the right wing emails Benghazi voter fraud Planned Parenthood building a wall who can go to the bathroom where. What do they all have in common? They're imaginary, they're not real, they don't affect anybody's lives, they are not actual issues. Tell that to Ted Stevens! I was thinking Benghazi wasn't real... No it didn't happen at all. It was imaginary But this really is because you know nobody heard Comey I guess at Salt Bay, no indictment move on there was nothing wrong

CHAPTER 05 / 36 Discussion

The View Panel, FBI Director James Comey and Intent

The panel on The View discussed the FBI's decision not to recommend charges against Hillary Clinton. Whoopi Goldberg questioned where the specific lies occurred, while other panelists debated the legal requirement of "intent" under Title 18. The discussion highlights the public confusion regarding FBI Director James Comey's findings versus Clinton's public statements about classified material.

the view· whoopi goldberg· james comey· fbi· hillary clinton

17:28 Um, it's a little too early for me to throw the view at you. I think that might hurt a little too much. Well... I could use it! I could use it but I need to slap in the face. Okay slapping the face coming stand by The problem is though that she lied so whether or not she got indicted from- I think this is the Republican girl on The View isn't there always one Republican girl? Yeah there's always one Republican girl This is her She said I did not send or receive any classified material and that she knew Do you hear whoopie in the back that she knew that she knew no, that's not what she said That's what she says now and now yeah But there was a number of at least three or four items that actually had none. We'll get to that I did not send or receive any classified material Actually intent is not written into title 18 intent is written into title 18 now

18:23 because it's Hillary Clinton. It doesn't have to be written in a digital law school. She provided all of her work-related emails but the FBI discovered several thousand work related emails that were not provided. No, not several thousand she didn't provide them because like other email users she deleted them so they found stuff that she had already deleted like a year before and that's what their time...that's what makes this so crazy that

19:09 Hillary Clinton, she's a smart woman. I think she is capable should have known that by content that stuff should not have been transmitted over a private server that had very limited security. What if she felt it wasn't classified? This is the problem. She should've known. But even if she says listen to me this isn't classified because of ABC. That's...I mean you're the Secretary of State but here's the problem They've classified so many things. All of it is vague, they say well she might have gotten some and she might have censored... Well which isn't? What did she get? You know what's shocking to me is that this FBI director is a Republican he was appointed by President Bush W. Bush He was confirmed at 93-1 I mean this is the guy that Republicans should trust

20:04 What? He was put in by Obama. Hold on... This is a guy that Republicans should trust and he said there is no issue here I actually don't think this- There's no case here! So first of all, Whoopi was in there saying but where did she lie baby? Where did she lie baby? I mean none of these people apparently really looked at anything No, they're just getting it from whatever the knee-jerk press is telling them. Or I don't even know if they read that! They get it...I have no idea. I think they just talk amongst themselves. It's beyond me. So Loretta Lynch was questioned on The Hill

CHAPTER 06 / 36 Discussion

Loretta Lynch Testimony, House Judiciary Committee and Team Recommendation

Attorney General Loretta Lynch testified before the House Judiciary Committee, repeatedly deferring to FBI Director James Comey's statements. Lynch emphasized that the decision not to prosecute Hillary Clinton was a unanimous recommendation from a "team" of career prosecutors and agents. Chairman Bob Goodlatte and other committee members criticized her refusal to provide factual answers regarding the statutes involved, specifically 18 U.S.C. section 793F.

loretta lynch· bob goodlatte· house judiciary committee· fbi· department of justice

20:42 Actually, I may play that later. It's all boring. That was just a little interesting it was just to throw away well I think there was just we have to do this actually Well actually this is a little different This was Good Latte? Is that how you pronounce his name from Virginia Don't know good late. Good good lat I think good latte is the way I read it sectors like stated that she never says the Judiciary Committee percent or received information marked as classified on her server Director Comey stated that was not true Do you agree with director comey? You know, Director Comey has chosen to provide great detail into the basis of his recommendations that were ultimately provided to me. He's chosen to provide detailed statements and I would refer you to those statements. I as Attorney General am not able to provide any further comment on the facts or substance of the investigation." That's really odd! That was great but for her to say that she cannot provide any further information to

21:43 Judiciary committees, that seems odd to me. Isn't she exactly the one who could provide more information? I have no idea what the mechanism is. Let's try it again. Well General Lynch, I think you would agree that the ultimate responsibility for a prosecutorial decision does not rest with the Federal Bureau of Investigation but with the Department of Justice which you head Have you not taken a close look at the work done by Director Comey, especially given the extreme national interest in this issue to make a determination yourself whether you and those working for you agree or disagree with Director Comey? As I've indicated. I received the recommendation of the team and that team was composed of prosecutors and- This whole team thing

22:28 It's the team. It was a team decision, the teams stood behind it. I would say you were used to experienced prosecutors or some of these... Career. Career. And that team was composed of prosecutors and agents with an unanimous recommendation as how to resolve the investigation and what do the information they had received concluded? Do you agree with the conclusion? and I accepted that recommendation. Beautiful obfuscation, bureaucratic answers. This is a top drawer. She obviously has been well-trained. This is...no what this is the most transparent administration in history that's what this is right here. ...and stated that she did not email any classified material and Director Comey stated there was classified material emailed

23:31 Do you agree with Director Comey's conclusion about that? Again, I would have to refer you to Director Comey statements for the basis of his recommendation. Director Comey stated that there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information. Do you agree with director Comey statement Again, I would refer you to Director Comey for any further explanation as to the basis for his recommendations. The recommendation that I received from the team including Director Comey was that the investigation be resolved without charges. General Lynch, Director Comey made a recommendation but he made a recommendation to the Department of Justice which you had

24:10 And you would have to come to the final conclusion on whether or not to act. I would presume that before you acted, you would look at his conclusions and determine whether you agreed with them or not." The question he should have asked is did YOU make the decision... ...to NOT indict? She's really making it sound like it was all Comey-Comey-Comey! As I've indicated, I received a briefing from the team which included not just the prosecutors but the agents and Director Comey. Their unanimous recommendation was that the matter be resolved in the way in which we have announced and I accepted their recommendation. Let me ask you one final question that does not regard the specific facts with regards to Secretary Clinton. But Director Comey said there was not clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information

25:02 My question for you is, is intent to violate the law a requirement under 18 U.S.C., section 793F?" Now this is a question she as attorney general should just answer factually and just say here's what the law states and here's what...if someone that if the case adheres to all these points then yes but no Well, Congressman I think the statutes that were considered here speak for themselves. To answer further would require a discussion of the facts and the analysis of this matter... Oh let's not have that! Which as i've indicated i'm not in position to provide at this time again i refer you to Director Comey's discussion for that As i've indicated the team reviewed this matter and it was a unanimous team decision What is this team bullshit all of a sudden? I mean- Wondering about that myself And she keeps saying by the way

25:54 The team has all had to sign non-disclosure documents. I think there were other non FBI people that may not have been under the already existing oath of their function So when you say team, she said yeah career politicians and just team. The whole team thing is irksome. And you made a decision following their recommendation to you that you were not going to prosecute and the matter was closed? Is that correct? I made the decision some time ago that i would accept the recommendation of that team and was awaiting that recommendation. When I received it, there was no basis not to accept it and again reiterate my pride and faith in them. Pride and faith in them? Just pride... And faith!

26:39 Pride in that. Again, I reiterate... Pride and faith. What would the pride have to do with it? The team is probably gay guys and pastors. I don't know. Pride and faith who knows? Well thank you! I appreciate your faith in them. The concern here is regard to your sworn oath to uphold the United States Constitution and the laws there under including 18 U.S.C. section 793 F and 18 USC section 1924 And to conclude that no prosecution would take place without examining and drawing conclusions regarding the questions that I've just asked does not seem to be a responsible way to uphold your constitutionally sworn oath. I like that! Okay, gave her-gave her little lecture! Put her on notice, I'd say hey! She'll be audited next week You took the oath you know?

CHAPTER 07 / 36 Discussion

Corrine Brown Indictment, Fraud Charges and Orlando Shooting Defense

Florida Congresswoman Corrine Brown has been indicted on multiple counts of fraud related to the alleged use of a "bogus charity," One Door for Education, as a personal slush fund. Upon emerging from court, Brown suggested that if federal agents had not been busy investigating her, they might have prevented the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando. The indictment alleges hundreds of thousands of dollars were diverted for personal use over 15 years.

corrine brown· florida· fraud· one door for education· pulse nightclub

27:30 There was an indictment, which is severely underreported of one of the super delegates for the Democrats. Florida Democrat Congresswoman Corrine Brown who was indicted I think on 24 or 26 counts of fraud basically using a slush fund for her own personal benefit And of course, she's a superdelegate so we're not going to talk about that too much. But the report something very interesting. The work I've done speak for me. The normally outspoken Congresswoman Brown had little to say as she emerged from court today My heart is just really heavy this has been a very difficult time for me

28:11 Brown and her chief of staff are accused of using a bogus charity as a political slush fund. Earlier this year, Nine Investigates raised questions about Brown's charity One Door for Education The feds in the indictment say One Door served as a revolving door cash donations the quarters of a million dollars over 15 years. Today, Brown said if the Department of Justice had spent more time investigating terrorism instead of her, the victims of the Pulse nightclub shooting would still be alive. These are the same agents that was not able to do a thorough investigation of the agent and we ended up with 50 people dead!

29:14 Because the agents were too busy investigating her, they couldn't investigate the agent in Orlando and 50 people wound up died. Whoa! Wow that's a defense Also what agent was... is she saying the shooter in Orlando was an agent or what exactly is she saying? I don't know play that clip again that last part Hold on a second What you bitching about? Ehh just dumped it sorry hold on Where was it now? Here we go. Let me see if I can fast forward. I gotta fast forward to the end, and its not working. Forget it yeah but no what she said is very clear It was the same agents who were investigating her wasting their time apparently

CHAPTER 08 / 36 Discussion

Seth Rich Murder, DNC Data Analysis and Election Rigging

DNC staffer Seth Rich was murdered in Washington, D.C., in what police described as a robbery gone wrong, though his possessions were not taken. The timing and nature of the shooting have led to speculation regarding his role in data analysis and potential knowledge of election rigging. The discussion references historical instances of alleged vote tampering, including the 1960 election of John F. Kennedy in Illinois.

seth rich· dnc· washington dc· voter fraud· john f kennedy

30:09 If they had been spending their time investigating the agent in Orlando, then 50 people wouldn't be dead. I'm not quite sure what she means but I'd love to know more. They should play this story up more. This is ridiculous. I would love to hear more about that for sure Well it's like the other one that just suppressed stories The guy they gunned down on the streets outside of you know this DNC computer guy Yeah Those guys name was Seth Conrad Rich I have a report Oh good, play that then. It was about 419 in the morning Seth Rich was on his way home He was talking to his girlfriend on a cell phone In fact she said she heard some noise in the background She asked if he was alright He said don't worry I'll be home soon You see only lives about a block and half away But Seth Rich never made it home He jumped pushed to the ground And shot twice...in the back

31:00 Today, I talked to his mom by phone. So, what is being said here is because his knees were scraped and his hands were scraped that he was not robbed of his possessions. That it was a robbery gone wrong and they shot him in the back or the head What I read is...that's execution style. There wasn't a robbery gone bad? You're on your knees and boom-boom two to the head right in the back of the head

31:46 In DC, where you know... You can't just go walking around with guns or buy guns that easily. Or have them carry them. No they got some of the strictest gun laws in DC and course there ya have it. But he was in charge of um Data analysis, I think for the DNC. Data analysis and voter... He also has something to do with increasing the voter turnout or something there's some voter angle and people thinking maybe he stumbled onto some vote rigging system or he is part of a vote rigging system. He wouldn't play the game, he wouldn't play ball And they killed him! That's actually what i think. Yeah, I think you're right it seems very obvious Then..and I only say that because there was number reports out about exit polls versus reality

32:33 there were a number of anomalous states. We have to look into this again because it's gonna happen with Hillary, she's got a bunch of states rigged and the Democrats are known for this that's how Kennedy got into office in Illinois would be one in Illinois cuz the votes were rigged by the mob. And give us the back story on that? Well Kennedy was not going to beat Nixon in that 1960 election and he There was a deal that was done with the Daily Guys, and there was just... Illinois was thrown for Kennedy just enough to get him over the top so he could win the election. And it's a well-known thing that hooked up Kennedy. I mean, Kennedy had some obligation to the mob that had fixed Illinois votes for him. Well then how come Trump can't do the same? He's got the same mob guys behind him!

33:23 Don't know that Trump can't do the same okay? We don't have a clue whether Trump could do the same or not from my bill He might be better at it than Hillary But we know Hillary's been doing it in certain states and she shouldn't have won and or state like New York where there's a whole bunch of votes that disappeared Or stay like California where Bernie should have won, and didn't hmm. This is this whole thing is out of control Yeah Yes And we don't know where Trump is on this. We don't know if he even knows about it or I mean, he seems isolated in some ways but then again if he's mobbed up which is suspected yeah then he and which makes nothing but sense to anyone who has a logical thought Anyone who knows real estate? In New York City Manhattan Hello! You

34:11 You might suspect that he does have some mechanisms that could counter the Hillary mechanisms, which I think are in existence. And then we got this dead guy. So with this dead guy it could also mean they don't have their guy who pulls the levers anymore? I don't think he was the guy. You think he was the guy? This has been going on for years, this has got to be somebody else. See i think he may either stumble onto something and play ball or that he was brought in due to a job he wouldn't do it. I have no idea who's gonna blow the whistle we don't know! He's dead

CHAPTER 09 / 36 Discussion

Ruth Bader Ginsburg vs Donald Trump, Judicial Ethics and Resignation

Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg faced criticism for calling Donald Trump a "faker" and expressing concern over a potential Trump presidency. Trump responded by calling for her resignation, stating her "mind is shot." Legal analysts, including Jeffrey Toobin, noted that such political comments are unprecedented for a sitting justice and could lead to recusal issues in future election-related cases.

ruth bader ginsburg· donald trump· supreme court· jeffrey toobin· judicial ethics

34:49 Then, of course something fantastic happened which as far as I know hasn't really happened this way when Supreme Court Justice Ruth Ginsburg came out and talked about Donald Trump being fake. And he doesn't... Yeah, I did a CBS report on it. Oh that's what…I was hoping you had a background or which one is that? Well let's see…I think there's…I think I got two. Okay, yeah ABC report I've seen ABC report. Yeah play that one Now the Donald Trump tonight demanding an apology this evening from Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg After what she said about him ABC's Tom Yamas on the Trump campaign

35:29 Tonight Donald Trump in a supreme fight with Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg after she told the New York Times quote I can't imagine what this place would be. I can't imagine what the country would be with Donald Trump as our president She didn't stop there telling CNN he is a faker He has no consistency about him, he says whatever comes into his head at the moment He really has an ego. How has he gotten away with not turning over his tax returns? But what is she talking about, it's not a requirement. Very odd Her comments are an unprecedented attack by a Supreme Court justice in the modern era on a presidential candidate Trump calling it a disgrace and highly inappropriate Adding I would hope she would get off the court as soon as possible The grapple with Ginsburg comes as Trump prepares to announce his running mate

36:20 Tonight he's in Indiana with the state's governor Mike Pence who is on the shortlist. They've disagreed in the past but when I asked Pence about it, he insisted that he could still serve Trump. The tweet that Trump sent out that I liked most was not in that report. I could have read it myself but I think its funnier when someone on the network disagrees. That, what you're talking about is she's lost her mind. No no no! And Trump getting even more critical this morning sending out this tweet here it is he writes Justice Ginsburg of the US Supreme Court has embarrassed all by making very dumb political statements about me Her mind is shot Resign! His mind is shot that's it

36:58 Her mind is shot. I love that! That is one... The only, well I didn't know that the Yamas did that but I know Amy Goodman played that one and then Amy Goodman took it found another one like I didn't clip because the clip was ruined by over modulation to be technical she said in other words she's and this she says Ginsburg also made this comment which none of the news networks play which is all I knows at the next president She will do blah, blah, blah indicating that Hillary's gonna win. I saw this morning a news blurb came in that she apparently regrets what she said... I think her mind is shot! I agree! She's so old on there and you're not even hurting her image.

37:48 First of all, 83 isn't so old. I disagree. No, there's...I've seen Laird the old guy who did The Archie Bunker Show or whatever it was called, All in the Family He was on the other night and won the top prize. She's 92! Very erudite. He's 92 fine She is like the deer in a headlight. She's very frail I just think and I never thought she was that bright to begin with and and I will point out She's had a lot of work done on her face no yes Yeah, y'all had a long conversation The other night about this oh yeah, it should know Botox in the forehead But oh yeah definitely has had worked on her name was Kiki Oh really? Yeah, she's actually kiki kiki yeah hmm

38:35 I know that from one of her good friends. Well, do we play the second half of your report here? The second half is mostly about Pence and Trump's VP pick you might as well play it. Really? Go ahead, don't have to play it, its an optional. Well, you sounded like you weren't for it. I wanted to go into some other responses. Oh yeah, no stick with this And I think that quite fairly, even the Clinton News Network with our friend Toobin who is usually a douche knuckle. He was on the money Is there any chance she would resign?

39:13 No, I don't think there's any chance she will resign but i think it's appropriate to criticize her about this. This is not how Supreme Court justices have talked traditionally they do not get involved in day-to-day political controversies they do not endorse or unendorse candidates and I think there are lots of good reasons for that not least of which Something involving the election may come before the Supreme Court in a Bush v. Gore type case and I think she'd have to recuse herself at this point, I just think as someone who is a great admirer of Justice Ginsburg she is completely wrong in this situation and she should not be making these sorts of political statements. But there's no official code of conduct? No

39:56 There you go. I agree with this, there's no official code of conduct. I think these guys should say whatever they feel like saying I'm completely on the other side. I haven't made this decision lightly, i think she could say whatever she wants and if she wants to show herself as some sort of a bigot, a pro-Hillary supporter... She has every right to do that! And so are all the other justices. Yeah they're talking about making that... Of course that would never pass muster certainly over the Supreme Court you know stifling them of free speech. Right yeah was it Who was the guy who was mouthing off at the President, to President Obama during one of his State of the Union speeches? Oh you're talking about the Congressman that yelled liar? No no. One of the Supreme Court Justices was like mouthing something like douchebag or something

40:46 Oh, it was I think it was Kennedy. It was...I don't remember which one but there were somebody that were down in front and he was criticizing the Supreme Court so one of them turned over to talk to the other ones this guy's full of shit. That was even showed up at the next event So okay you think they all should come out and say something but No if they don't want too then we have to Is not some kind of is there no code for judges? No and you can fire him No, I know you can't recall him. You can just can't even impeach your Supreme Court justice? No not that I know of! I don't think there's any mechanism. Hmm huh...I think the other court members can censure the bad actor but i don't but that would just be internal. I don't think there's anybody who could do anything. I think they're stuck in their and if they want to mouth off and say I think Hillary is great because she's a woman which is pretty much what this Ginsburg person thinks

41:41 I think she has every right in the world to call out Trump as a douchebag. I believe that she really helped Trump with this. Yeah, I think so too! She really helped him because most even you know Obots here on CNN are saying well she shouldn't have done that there's no good... I'm actually stunned even Harry Reid came out and said I'm not gonna comment on this he no one will defend her I'm defending her and I don't like her I'll defend her. I think she can say whatever she wants what difference does it make and why is everybody all worked up about it? Because it's good for Trump that's probably that's why they're all worked up about it It's good for Trump come on he had the line of the week Her mind is shot this shot dynamite That's really smart. I really enjoyed that anyway, so we had just tons and tons of town halls

CHAPTER 10 / 36 Discussion

MTV BET Town Hall, White Privilege and Historical Figures

Attorney General Loretta Lynch participated in a joint MTV and BET town hall focused on race and policing. The event featured discussions on "white privilege" and systemic bias, with some participants calling for the demilitarization of police. The hosts contest the narrative that the U.S. was built solely for "straight white Christian men," citing historical figures like President James Buchanan, who is described as the first gay president.

loretta lynch· mtv· bet· white privilege· james buchanan

42:36 to have a conversation, to solve everything in the world. Solve all of our problems and I watched two of them very painful. Actually i'll start with the MTV BET town hall which I found to be much better than any others but the language was very frank And it was also endorsed by the administration. So they did a combo deal, MTV and Black Entertainment Television owned by MTV Networks so it's all the same company live show They had pretty good mix of Millennials there and Of course our Attorney General called in to the show To make sure that everyone knows It is an official town hall Joining us right now by phone Is Attorney General Loretta Lynch Who has a message for everybody watching

43:31 Well, thank you so much. Thank you so much crew it is such a pleasure and honor to join you Let me thank MTV let me thank BET for hosting this forum But but most importantly let me thank everyone who is tuning in This is the conversation that we have to have and you are the group That we have to have this conversation with because you are the ones who're going to carry this torch Okay, so an endorsement there from the Attorney General and a number of interviews I pulled out a couple short quotes little clips This is push a tea push a team who doesn't know him rap star extraordinaire Not seeming to stop and I don't think it's gonna stop until we find someone to actually police the police. Hmm black panther style basically

44:16 I mean, I'm not even saying that. Whatever style... It's a free-for-all and obviously just doing whatever they like That blue wall of silence we gotta take that blue wall of silence down Absolutely Like that alone makes the police It makes them untrustworthy. It makes the police a gang." So this conversation that everyone was having was no more than this for hours and hours, angry people, angry people. Let's hug and we need to start the conversation it was really... And not a single time was I able to count anyone saying my country our country. I think we would do very well if we all started by

45:02 Stop calling it this country. I know but I'm just, I know that it's weird that I'm stumbling over this But I think really It really would be a good start if we all took ownership of our country and said there's like some inanimate object over there It's uh... This country! This country! This country! It really irks me as you can tell yeah Okay so here's Another african-american millennial is going on in our community and our society, and you see people getting so riled up about the loss of lives of dogs and gorillas And then they hunt us down like dogs and gorillas and nobody wants to say anything Nobody puts down gorillas. Well I understand what he's saying that the outrage

45:47 over a gorilla being shot to death is so much larger, according to this particular millennial than black youths being shot by the police. Or if someone's dog gets killed because the cops are issuing a search warrant... Cops kill too many dogs that's a real problem. Yeah sure of course they had some white kids in there here we go help us understand what white privilege is because a whole bunch of white folks say I ain't got no privilege I'm poor from the south You know, I'm struggling. I ain't got no privilege." What do you say to those people? Well, I think that...I understand where they're coming from. I think the term white privilege has kind of been twisted in all sorts of ways and I get that but at the end of the day there are so many ways in which this country was founded to benefit a very specific group of people

46:31 White people? White people. And men too! Well, white straight Christian men right and if I can't be honest about the fact that i've fallen to many of those categories that doesn't make me a bad person I was not responsible for them but I have to realize the way in which this system is going to treat me very differently. I was gonna say how does anyone here know that it was only for white straight Christians Christian men. I'm pretty sure that Ben Franklin swung back and forth between teams. But who knows? We know for a fact that Buchanan, the president, the one who preceded Lincoln was gay and lived with a guy in the White House. Oh i didn't know that! First gay president nobody talks about. Who was it? You got to elect a gay president you had one! Wait...who was that? Buchanon? Yeah.

47:22 Yeah, totally gay. Oh! And known by everybody as being gay or you know they never talked about that much the way they... I mean Cassius Clay the guy always talk about has a cannon in his front yard His daughter was his daughter's sister and I think oh now to stop and look it up but it was his sister or his daughter, was incredibly a major league lesbian. Huge lesbian. If you saw her she's a little petite woman she's about four and nine everyone was short back then they didn't need enough vitamin B but they uh... She was a lesbian big time and she was a women's rights person in the whole thing it was just there's a bunch of that going on so what? Nobody gave as much crap about it as they do today But yes Buchanan gay Right but to say that this country was built

48:08 Only to serve the white straight Christian men is just it's bullshit bigotry. It's a bigotry They hate Whitey well, this is white hate here's a white girl Yeah absolutely I mean I think it's really terrifying to look at what's happening right now and think you know maybe I have some part in This not as an individual of course but as a system of being there that has conferred privileges To me and my family for generations To sort of look at that, to look at what's happening and think you know what am I supposed to do? That's terrifying. But it's great that there is a lot of resources for young white people who are trying to figure out what to do. Yeah these resources... Yeah resource for white self-loathing white to carry over from the liberal self-loathing Jew well is not an outrageous phenomenon this just annoying as hell There is

CHAPTER 11 / 36 Discussion

White Boy Privilege, Slam Poetry and School Curriculum

A 14-year-old student from a private school in Atlanta gained national media attention for a slam poetry piece titled "White Boy Privilege." During a CNN interview, the student credited a school course called "Race, Class, and Gender" for his awareness of social hierarchies. The hosts analyze the clip as an example of modern educational trends focusing on self-loathing and systemic guilt.

white boy privilege· atlanta· slam poetry· race class and gender· education

48:57 I don't know if you saw the white boy privilege slam poetry piece which is just about everywhere. It was just some kid, and then I looked at the kid and said is this kid actually white? He looked like a Latino. I think he's Italian or Jewish. That's one other thing... Well, no. When I get to Don Lemon's thing, we'll talk about it but we could just for a second go off for one second here and... Oh wait you're gonna talk about how Latinos are white in one situation and then they're not in another situation when we need to use the racist label? Yeah, we'll do that in a moment Okay That would have been bothering me too That's a big one yeah. I want to start first with this

49:37 With this white boy. Let me see I have a couple of clips because it was everywhere It really kind of exploded and had some PR behind it. I'm not sure Oh, that definitely had some PR behind it let me see the first clip. I have okay This is CBS here we go white boy privilege was an entry in a school poetry contest I'm scared of what it would be like if i wasn't on the top rung, if the tables were turned and I didn't have my white boy privilege safety blankie to protect me. Royceman's message was a plea from a 14-year old white male going to a private school in Atlanta let everyone share his privileges

50:18 I'm just trying to be truthful and about like how I wouldn't trade places with somebody and that. I think a lot of people Sometimes aren't so truthful about that now, but I have the full Poetry slam this kid did which is interesting to listen to its entirety We could listen to it later if you want, but he was interviewed on CNN and this kind of revealed Where all of this is coming from when did the idea come that you're gonna tackle? That terminology white boy privilege. How long has this message been stirring I knew about white privilege a male privilege for most of my life But I never realized

50:58 prevalent it was in our society until this year when I went to a new school called the Pieda School and we take class called race, class and gender. This i think is where we need to go looking but there you go race class and gender this is being taught in school being taught that white privilege is real and we have to continuously do something about that. I think it's one thing to say racism is real, and we need to do something about it but to turn that around and say white privilege is real... It's disturbing to me And that really made me a lot more aware of the privileges that I have That other people don't often have Many other people don't have

51:38 There are definitely some people who do deny that white privilege and male privilege exist. And I think that's because they choose to not see it in our world, they choose to see the progress we have made and a lot of kids learn these days when they're learning about the civil rights movement for example is sort of put into their heads now were all equal there was so much progress has been made but So who's your audience? This kid is clearly a robot. It's great! They really nailed him, they found the right kid brainwashed him he's got this spiel... He's dynamite. He's an eighth grader, he speaks very astutely for an eighth grader but this race class and gender I'd really like to know more about what is being taught

CHAPTER 12 / 36 Discussion

Police Demilitarization, Pulse Nightclub Shooting and Local Law Enforcement

A Black Lives Matter activist at a town hall argued that police killed many victims at the Pulse nightclub during the crossfire and called for the disarming and demilitarization of law enforcement. The hosts discuss the proliferation of military-grade equipment in small-town police departments, citing a recent manhunt in Calistoga as an example of excessive force and "overkill" in local policing.

black lives matter· police demilitarization· pulse nightclub· calistoga· military gear

52:28 Racism, sure. All kinds of racism with all kinds of problems but we're teaching our kids that it's their fault because of their privilege? I do take issue with that Back to the MTV BET Town Hall. This is the best, I really love this clip for a number of reasons So we've had the... We've had a number of black kids, we've had the white boy and the white girl And now you have black transgendered. We are at war with the police but it's not a war that were gonna win with guns or violence It's a war that we have to fight with love The reality is that

53:23 The police killed the majority of the people at Pulse that night while trying to enter into the club. And it's the same thing we were fighting against in 1969, a stone wall so Black Lives Matter has three points We need to defund demilitarize and disarm the police All right I love the- He brought the thing in that we brought up on our show nobody else is discussed which is the cops killed everybody Which is the only thing that makes logical sense if you follow the timeline and listen to the barrage of bullets that they fired. Which we had on the show, and then he talks about demilitarizing the police which is a huge problem so we had an incident local

54:04 I think it was in Calistoga or something. It was some small podunk town somewhere on the west coast and there was some manhunt for some guy who robbed a bank or something, and they brought out all this army gear just short of a tank but they had this big...I don't even know what the hell it was like four years just a big metal looking thing with a dish on the top of it and a bunch of guys hanging off. It was in camouflage, and this is some little town just trying to track some minor criminal

54:43 Down and watch this a news like holy crap what to talk about overkill yeah And that's I think he's dead on about demilitarizing the police these guys the US government Thanks to Obama and Bush to a lesser extent have given all this gear to these local police departments, and you can't say it enough Does they've gotta be just gotta be taken away from them demilitarized? I completely know. I don't think disarming is a good idea but D Miller no disarmies No good although the police were never I would be remiss in this segment if we didn't play a bit about the Harvard study. The Harvard study that flies in the face of all these so-called facts that have been propagated on

CHAPTER 13 / 36 Discussion

Harvard Study on Police Shootings, Media Perception vs Reality

A Harvard University study conducted by economist Roland Fryer found no evidence of racial bias in police-involved shootings, though it did find bias in lower-level uses of force. MSNBC commentators expressed difficulty accepting the findings, stating they did not "comport with the reality" seen on television. The hosts highlight this as a disconnect between data-driven facts and media-driven narratives.

harvard university· roland fryer· msnbc· police shootings· racial bias

55:29 just in general, in the media in general cops kill black people. Cops kill black people. Cops kill black people Here's MSNBC this is the British reporter who I think she does stuff in the morning The study focused on more than 1300 shootings fatal and non-fatal in 10 police departments in Texas Florida and California The New York Times reports quote In shootings in these ten cities involving officers Okay, so that's a Harvard study.

56:13 And we heard exactly what's in it, and here's how the panel on MSNBC responded to this. These numbers surprised me. It's a study that I'd love to see replicated. This is Eugene from Washington Post. I'd love to see replicated. I'd love to see some, you know, some backup because frankly a lot of people will find it hard to believe and i find it hard to comport with the reality that we see... That we see on television not necessarily reality is the reality you see on television? If you look qualitatively at these incidents that we have seen over the last few years. What does that mean if you look at it qualitatively?

56:58 John well it means the cool the level of Quality is what it refers to so I think the Harvard Harvard study by a black grad student Is shit that would actually be a highly qualitative study because this is a quality study We think although he's questioning it or something. I don't know why using that word believe at these incidents That we have seen over the last few years It's difficult to find Parallel situations in which white suspects have been killed. One of the issues about that study, first of all I got a headache. It's giving them headaches John! They cannot... when facts are presented

57:39 Fact. They get a headache from it, I can't handle it this can't be true. Which white suspects have been killed? One of the issues about that study first of all I got a headache reading that I had trouble following it actually one of the problems with studies like that is it takes our eye off the ball yeah and we refer to studies instead of the reality so reality in this case oh that's great do what do I get anything for that Wait, hold on a second. I know you were setting it up No no no and i wasn't! I just realized how good that clip really was That clip is good give yourself a Clip of the Day Oh thank you When we look at the he so he uses reality as television Yes this is now and this is the point that We need to make The Democratic Party

CHAPTER 14 / 36 Discussion

Republican Party Racism Narrative, Bill Maher and Obama Family

Bill Maher and Chris Matthews discussed the Republican Party's opposition to President Barack Obama, with Maher suggesting the party is the "obvious choice" for racists. Matthews claimed that Republicans are bothered by the image of a Black family in the White House. The hosts argue that the Democratic Party has pivoted to using race as a primary tool to dismantle the GOP during the 2016 election cycle.

bill maher· barack obama· republican party· racism· chris matthews

58:34 And we were thinking it was going to be women. That's how they were going to destroy the Republican Party, but they did something much better and turned it into race and we've seen this entire election cycle. We've seen Republicans are racist Donald Trump is racist Republicans are racists Republicans are races and that is exactly why these reality for people Is that more black people are killed hunted down for sport by the police? That is exactly what has happened. I love that one, by the way Yeah But that is exact make that a funny dub ice or as sports of a play it later I think this is a blunder if you are If you're saying what I think your hold on one sec hold on one sec so let's listen to let's just go back briefly to Bill Maher and

59:26 And again, I'm quite convinced that the Democrats wanted to destroy the Republican Party. They figured out race was the way to go and just listen to Bill Maher. I know they hate to hear it That's the one thing who by the way gave a million dollars for Obama's re-election. I would never say that all Republicans are racist But if you are a racist and you're looking for a political party, this is the obvious choice. At least it's the mousetrap at least! Right. Here eat this cheese! And it but it's not just Trump I mean if you watch the Republican debates they all follow this script of restore America...I want my country back It's subtle but it's not even that subtle They talk about Obama and his presidency as if it just never even existed

1:00:10 there's something racist there. They say things like, we got to put America back to work yeah did that that actually happened? We put America back...we've got a rebuild our depleted military What planet is he on? This is number one so he clearly believes the unemployment numbers are true and everyone's back at work and there should be no problem thanks Obama Yeah, that actually happened. We put America back we got to rebuild our depleted military We didn't deplete the military it went up under Obama like it went up under every president You know my explanation for birtherism if there is one Is that he's playing the people who want to believe then somehow you can put an asterisk next to a bug exactly and notice that Matthews here pivots from Meyer talking about the Republican Party And then he pivots into he

1:01:02 Pivoted right into Trump this next to a bug exactly he wasn't really when you show that little book of color pictures of presidents the kids Yeah, first learning about civics and you go through all the pictures from John Adams all the way through and William Henry Harrison And they all like white and then I get to this guy They want to be able say like you know Like now. They just don't like the idea of a black family eating off the White House You just talked over the punchline They just don't like the idea of a black family eating off the White House china. They can couch it any way they want, but it just did not go down well with them. That's pretty outrageous

1:01:40 That's the most offensive thing he could have possibly said. Does he actually believe that? I think he does. People are sitting around stewing in their own juices, they voted for the guy! It was the white public that voted Obama in and a lot of Republicans included but But according to him, no that's not true. Everyone is sitting around grinding their teeth because of the... and they don't oh my god there's a picture of him now that's going to be in the in that hallway with all the presidents and there's gonna be a big picture this black guy and that's gonna really bug them! And you know what? This is also I think somewhat it's a little transference involved here It's like if you think that's gonna bug me then well a woman becoming president yeah To bring that up I do have something talk about Cameron later but

CHAPTER 15 / 36 Discussion

Theresa May Appointment, David Cameron and Global Foundations

Theresa May has been appointed as the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom following David Cameron's resignation. The hosts note Cameron's "2-0" comment regarding female Prime Ministers from the Conservative Party. Additionally, the discussion touches on the funding of social movements by large organizations like the Rockefeller and Ford Foundations, which the hosts claim have been co-opted by left-wing interests.

theresa may· david cameron· united kingdom· rockefeller foundation· ford foundation

1:02:25 Cameron, when he gave his last little spiel and the ministers made it. I'd like to point out that we correctly predicted Theresa May would be the next prime minister Yeah well it was obvious So he says that...and we did correctly predict He just says or Cameron says Well now we're happy to have Theresa May our second Prime Minister That makes us 2-0! Two nil? Yeah. Oh, because the other party has none? No... Well that could be but I took it because i kept hearing these slights against the United States. Maybe it was me!

1:03:14 That's our special relationship. I heard other stuff that he kept saying, kept these little slights and that was one of now we're too nil maybe it was over labor because labor has never produced a female prime minister that's true you may be right but i could see it either way depending on the context yeah now you remember DeRay McKinnon who is one of the co-founders of Black Lives Matter and um maybe we'll do it on Sunday but I have a complete rundown of all the funding into the separate Black Lives Matter groups that are... And it's not just Soros. It truly also is Rockefeller Foundation, if you can believe the craziness of that! I mean, that something- That doesn't surprise me Most of these big foundations like Rockefeller Ford Foundation for sure have all been coopted by extreme left wingers They've all been coopted The way it works Who else would take these jobs? Yeah So Deray McKinnon

CHAPTER 16 / 36 Discussion

DeRay Mckesson Arrest, Baton Rouge Protests and Summer of Chaos

Black Lives Matter activist DeRay Mckesson was arrested in Baton Rouge for blocking a highway during protests. The hosts discuss leaked text messages mentioning a "summer of chaos" and planned disruptions at the Republican National Convention. Mckesson appeared on MSNBC to argue that police provoke protesters to create a climate of fear, while the hosts question the coordination behind nationwide protest movements.

deray mckesson· baton rouge· black lives matter· summer of chaos· dallas shooting

1:04:10 He was recently arrested in Baton Rouge. And you recall, this is the guy whose account was hacked into and I'm...I was kicking myself because we were reading some of these text messages and some of the email messages talking about the summer of chaos and how thousands of people will be bused into the Republican convention to create chaos among those text messages was also July 9th and 10th Baton Rouge. Something big's gonna go down And I didn't mention it and i'm kind of kicking myself because we saw a lot go down in Baton Rouge including McKinnon who was arrested. And he shows up on two shows, and just to give you an idea of the thinking um of one of the co-founders and how he speaks

1:04:55 Here's the first one with Ashley Banfield, I think. And she brings up a number of his tweets and asks him if this is okay what he's saying. Okay so I respect that opinion and when you say that Mayor Giuliani's speech is disgraceful Some say that about your past rhetoric as well. And I just want to read a couple of your past tweets from April 3rd of last year, this quote feared for my life language is perhaps the new execution motto of America's largest gang the police and then in April Also of last year, the police are killing people. Officer friendly is akin to the myth of the American dream. Seductive but a deadly illusion nonetheless and then May 23rd of last year The police are engaged in ethnic cleansing America That's pretty strong rhetoric coming from you as well Do you think it's helpful or do you regret any of those words?

1:05:53 Yeah, so you know you think about Officer Friendly I remember being a kid growing up and learning about Officer Friendly as somebody who was always there to protect me. And as an adult what i've seen is Officer Friendly was not there to protect Tamir, was not there to protect Mike Brown Alton Sterling or so many other people, Rekia Boyd. So that is a myth and we want to live in the world where that doesn't have to be mythical but the world we live in right now, uh, that's just not true and the other statements I made when we think about the one about a gang or fear for your life it is clear to me that officers did not fear for their life when Tamir was killed It is clear to me that Freddie Gray should be alive Officers did not fear for their life when he left their custody and died

1:06:37 The things he's saying are pretty inflammatory and I have to correct myself. The video or the sound, the clip I played on the last show from Louisiana where it was you know kill pig killed oink oink kill fry fried bacon kill the pigs that was actually from a year ago that wasn't from right after Dallas so i made a mistake there But listen to the next bit from this co-founder of Black Lives Matter on MSNBC. Duray, let's talk about the specific details of the arrest you say it was unlawful police there are saying... Right so he was arrested because they blocked the highway when walking down the highway and stopping traffic and after they were warned they were arrested. It was unlawful police there are saying that

1:07:26 urged you not to go on to a very busy thoroughfare. You did anyway, and that's why you got arrested. What was your vantage point? The police officers were provoking protesters the entire time and I was just one of the many people they were provoking in order to create a climate of fear and chaos that they could exploit. Notice the chaos word notice the chaos will remember summer of chaos ...provoking in order to create a climate of fear and chaos that they could exploit. And again, we were all in there because... This is crazy! He's- this is very good. He's throwing his baggage onto the cops he's saying they want to create an atmosphere of chaos and fear that they can exploit

1:08:05 Hmm and we were all in there because the police were just flexing their power And that's why people are in the streets in the first place because of police are abusing their power across the country So about the Dallas situation I have far more questions than I have answers at this point, and I think that is the same of all of us The second part is remember that we should not have to protest We should not be in the streets In the movement didn't cause anything. The police killing people as what caused all of this That the movement has been a response to the violence and communities, and that people have been organizing for the past two years specifically before a long time because we know our communities can be safer than they are. And the safety of our community is not predicated on the presence of police but with Dallas specifically again there more questions right now than their answers I want to be very clear about what you just said you just said that the police

1:08:50 Ultimately, you think are at the root of this and the tensions that are being caused by police? Again when we think about Dallas there's so many questions that we have about the shooter himself. About his motivations and we don't have enough answers I don't know what else to say besides that but i do know that we shouldn't have to protest it We're only in the streets because Alton and Philando and Rekia and Tamir are dead And if they weren't dead we would not have to be in the streets like this These things are, these events they're very well coordinated. They're everywhere in the all over the country. Yes and they are coordinated. And this guy's good yeah but I hear here... By the way she asked him a question he answered some other questions it was very strange to me. But he's also saying I don't know who was there? I think the Dallas shooting was clearly not a Black Lives Matter coordinated effort and they're confused about it too that's what I hear

CHAPTER 17 / 36 Discussion

Don Lemon Town Hall, Police Fatality Statistics and Race Relations

CNN's Don Lemon hosted a town hall addressing the deaths of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile. Lemon cited statistics showing 518 people were shot by police in the first half of the year, while also noting a 56% increase in police officers killed in firearm-related incidents. A New York Times poll discussed during the event indicates that 69% of Americans believe race relations are at their worst since the 1992 Rodney King riots.

don lemon· cnn· police fatalities· race relations· rodney king

1:09:45 So now just to take it into some... Yeah, I hear the same thing. Into some real uh...I thought there was some good things were said in this Don Lemon town hall although just listening to the opener i already had a problem like oh god I want to sit through two hours of this? Baton Rouge! A routine police call and Alton Sterling is dead St. Paul a routine traffic stop and Philando Castile is dead now routine When cops are called in for a man with gun, it's not routine When police are pulling someone over because they may be armed robbery suspects. It's not routine

1:10:31 That was disgusting! You can say that it was senseless use, you can say whatever you want but you can't say these were routine calls and they wound up dead. And then we have Lemon... Let's see where is Lemon? His opener was... I have too many clips. I can't find everything. Here it is. Nope. Darnit Yes here we go This is Lemon's opening Good evening everyone. I am so glad that we are doing this this evening, and I'm so thankful that all of you can join us here We have a problem in this country Americans are dying on the hands of our police 518 shot and killed in the first six months of this year on par with last year and police

1:11:20 Well, police are dying to 28 of them in firearm related incidents a 56% increase over last year and it is only July Meanwhile a brand-new New York Times poll finds that 69 percent of Americans say that race relations are bad The highest level that since the Rodney King riots back in 1992 now. Did you hear what I heard? I heard that killing of cops has doubled by killing of black civilians is the same. Yet, we have a problem in this country with the cops killing black people or killing people I don't understand how that statistic you know is not mentioned more often The whole...this whole thing is besides being tedious at this point these meetings it's just the...it's..I think you hit the nail long ago and you've kind of gone off the point which is this is an attempt

CHAPTER 18 / 36 Discussion

Ferguson Poverty, HUD Programs and Racial Narratives

The former Ferguson Police Chief identified concentrated poverty and unregulated HUD programs as the root causes of crime and social unrest, rather than ingrained police racism. The hosts criticize the media for shifting racial labels to fit specific narratives, noting how Hispanic families are sometimes categorized as white when it serves a particular political argument regarding police victims.

ferguson· poverty· hud· don lemon· alton sterling

1:12:20 to defeat Donald Trump. Yes, but I haven't gotten off the point with these last two clips and then i'm done because we do have problems in our country...in my country that i'm still very proud of and the former Ferguson Police Department chef chief chef this is someone yay I think he nailed it. He really and there was no follow-up, no other conversation about it but he nailed it particularly as Ferguson is an outstanding example of the real problem in my country But is this something that's ingrained? And then I don't think people consciously...I think people you know agree with you consciously that police officers are doing this but is this something

1:13:03 ingrained in society is it ingrained in the training is that there are you do you know those perceptions of his don lemon actually saying is racism ingrained in the training at the police department on one of those perceptions they come from the police academy or just being in on the force i'd idon't i don't think it's ingrained at all uh... what i think we have a zip isn't it was brought to the fore a little while ago and it's what Chief Brown from Dallas said is that too much is being put on police officers, too much of society's ales. One of the big problems we have in Ferguson is concentrated poverty which I think is at the root of the problem. We're taking poor people and concentrating them in small areas

1:13:45 with HUD programs that are well-intentioned and well meaning but are unregulated. So we have the responsibility goes to the police so we have elevated crime, broken down families lack of education, lack a jobs, lack of hope There you go I think there you go You nailed it And when this happens in Latino communities Then Latinos get shot. And this whole thing started off with the woman of Alton Brown, Alton... I don't know The guy who was shot while he was selling CDs on the Man With Weapons call and then the family including brother stepmom father and uncle one of the Dallas police officers who was killed not fallen or fell can't get up no is killed murdered um and they were Hispanic

1:14:45 And the whole thing was white people, white cops. Black people... Don Lemon was looking at a Hispanic family who were clearly brown but they were white for him Yes, it's convenient. You're white if you're Latino or you could be white if it is convenient to the argument...to the narrative. Or you are either Latino and if its convenient to the narrative your White if it contributes to the narrative. It's bull crap! And this is all Well, I admire this what you put together here and I think the poverty thing. If these guys would spend their time focusing on poverty... Yes! And tell me about the HUD program when you said there's no oversight or no regulation? No this is for the part- This is a huge- This is the shadow government that runs everything. The HUD program of course has no oversight. The government has no oversight There was a great and people should go dig this up. That's in the show notes already

CHAPTER 19 / 36 Discussion

Michael Glennon, Double Government and the Efficient State

Professor Michael Glennon's theory of "double government" is explored, distinguishing between the "legacy government" (elected officials) and the "efficient government" (national security and administrative agencies). The discussion highlights how agencies like the CIA, FBI, and EPA operate with little oversight, citing James Clapper's testimony as an example. The hosts link this bureaucratic structure to the UK's decision to leave the European Union.

michael glennon· shadow government· national security· james clapper· european union

1:15:42 What? The Glennon stuff? Yes, of course I put that in the show notes. Are you kidding me?! People should go listen to this guy then and you should also get this guy's book because Michael Glennon and it's on Amazon it's not cheap It's 118 pages and 29 bucks but I got it! It's national security and double government And it happens to be, and Glennon gives a speech about it on YouTube that is pretty much the book as far as I can tell. Yeah, it is. He discusses the real problem in the world which is there's legitimate government and then there's an efficient government.

1:16:20 Did he say official? No, it was something else. Legacy government and then the efficient government go ahead And the efficient government is what does all... today the efficient governments taking over everything and the worst part about it is national security also comes out of the efficient government and it can do whatever it wants in this pretty much run roughshod over our rights But this guy discusses this and so you end up with situations like the HUD programs, which there's no oversight. And he himself says here is the biggest scandal in the last couple of years and I agree with him is when James Clapper went before Congress and under oath lied

1:17:01 And nobody said anything or did anything because you're dealing with the shadow government, or the efficient government versus the legacy government. The legacy government is losing more and more power. If you look at how the EU is structured it's structured in favor of an efficiency government. So the concept here was based on Begit I think who came up with this theory that the efficient government is underneath the radar uh... right and making all the laws when other legislatures was to make a loss these governments and but i want to say that i work for one of these operations let me just let us know this is not only is finished the thought he's we have this official government

1:17:43 And their job is to give you the illusion that something's being done and you vote and all that. But meanwhile, the efficient government which is CIA FBI, it was all of these agents EPA, EPA CDC, it's everybody, It's all of them they are the if...and they just make stuff happen and just run the world. They make laws! Yes Go ahead. They're given the permission to make laws and they make lots of them, we talk about all over regulation in this country where does all that come from? It comes from the efficient government cranking out laws what happened in the EU that got Great Britain finally get a nerve did quit because they already had a problem with an efficient government within their ranks, because the legacy government was actually the Queen and the House of Lords which has been taken over by the Prime Minister in the House of Commons.

1:18:32 And they set up all these agencies to do this efficient government routine. And then they were meta oversight by the EU, which they were using their efficient government, which all of these guys making rules and regulations about how many fish you can catch and how big a pillow should be and what a button should look like and how many holes it should have and all this sort of thing that was too much for the Brits or the first ones to bail out because they couldn't take it anymore. They had enough problems But we are completely oblivious to this. This guy has nailed it. Yes, and Lenin character has nailed it. Yes. And then going back to this town hall when the Fergus, the former police chief says, you know, hey, this is a concentration of poverty and believe me when you get that and you ask the police to be whatever happened to the show cops? Whatever happened to that show? That was bad boys that really showed what was going on

CHAPTER 20 / 36 Discussion

Minority Poverty, Media Influence and Political Strategy

The hosts discuss how the media and political elites perpetuate narratives that keep minority groups in poverty while blaming the Republican Party for systemic issues. They argue that the "war on women" narrative has been exhausted, leading to a renewed focus on racism as a political tool for the 2016 election. The segment emphasizes the role of television in shaping a perceived reality that differs from the lived experience of many Americans.

poverty· media narrative· republican party· hillary clinton· racism

1:19:30 Well, it ran its course is what happened to it. It couldn't go forever. Okay so you know the HUD program the housing urban development program yeah and these I have to say are a lot of Democratic Party...yeah in fact Ferguson run by Democrat. You know it's very very very bad policy and we're lying! And I don't see why any minority group poverty minority group, let's just say that because it is easier. It is not about colors you are impoverished and they have no faith in the government when you hear on television the reality the whole day of only four and a half percent unemployment there are plenty of jobs everything great everything groovy stock market is up they know what's going on its not true

1:20:21 One other point that came up. This is my last one from this not true It's not true, but reality you hear it the elites what's on television? What's our news what's in The New York Times That's their reality even though it's a subsection of what's going on and here's the another former police chief I forget Neil his name get where he's from black man This is something that's never been resolved or its been perpetuated since slavery And we have to deal with that. Yes, we have to go back and talk about that. So since slavery until now there's always been a tool, there's always been a method, there's always been a policy to vilify the black man. And it's manifesting itself now in what we see every day in policing because it's right in front of you- So then what's the solution? Wait a minute! This is a societal problem how we view the black man and I'm going tell you something right

1:21:18 Most of black people also fear the young black man because subconsciously this is what has been fed to us over the years. Now you want to sit there and acknowledge that you don't have some sort of fear before you catch yourself Before you catch yourself and realize that, whoa wait a minute I shouldn't be thinking this way when you see a group of our young black men standing on the corner sagging and doing what they do. But the key is to understand and recognize that we all have our individual bias And to recognize it and then control it and not act upon in negative ways.

1:22:00 The black man. Black people are afraid of the black man. Well this has been brought up every time somebody brings this up they get excoriated. Nah he wasn't excori- You can think that way, you can think that way! He wasn't excoriated but he was certainly- This is all the media makes us think that way. Sorry And just to go back to the Democrats wanting to annihilate the Republican Party I put a lot of blame on the governor of Minnesota Oh, definitely. Yeah and so you know he has a whole thing, a whole pro-Hillary organization He's always flying out to where she is And we heard the clip he came out and said oh well this was clearly if they'd been white then Castile would never have been shot if he was white for the governor to say that You know, they're bitching about what the Supreme Court Ginsburg said

1:22:55 They're moaning and groaning, making a big story out of that. They didn't make anything out of this. It's like yes! Yeah you're right he would if he was white. Everyone accepted it as gospel especially the media that yeah he wouldn't have been shot this was the gospel if he was white vote for Hillary That's pretty much what it should have been Exactly Exactly So...it's very very sickening to think that what is happening with policing and poverty because that's how I view it And if you're a police officer, you got a whole bunch of... You know? You got an crazy Asian community of impoverished people. It's yeah it's us against them! Yeah that's going to happen I don't necessarily know if that is all based on hating black people but this election cycle has brought out just this horrible horrible way of operating in the political arena by blaming racism on Republicans

1:23:57 And that is truly disgusting. Well, it's a technique I mean the women think they already spent their capital on the women. They were already, you know Republicans are gun nuts again they're gonna kill your children your children are all going to die because of your Republicans so they already spent all the money on that political capitals done there's none left so they gotta make it their push the racism thing now I think the greatest synopsis is a whole thing in a funny way If you can understand a word of it, is Jesse Jackson came on one of the shows I think was Democracy Now. I don't know why they bring him on anything You can understand a word he says but if you can that actually makes a little sense maybe

CHAPTER 21 / 36 Discussion

Jesse Jackson, AK-47 Claims and Military Weapons

Reverend Jesse Jackson appeared on Democracy Now to discuss the need for reconciliation and stricter gun control. Jackson made a controversial claim that AK-47s can "bring down airplanes," which was corrected by a reporter. The hosts mock the statement while discussing the distinction between illegal automatic weapons and the semi-automatic rifles commonly found on American streets.

jesse jackson· ak-47· gun control· democracy now· law and order

1:24:43 I'm looking, I'm looking. Jackson? Jesse Jackson-Jackson maybe? Oh yes! I got it. Sorry. Jesse Jackson mumbling very good. First of all the killer did not come out of the civil rights movement that was a strategy alien to the way you function but secondly we need some real renewed there's a date November 8th And Trump has thrown down his gauntlet today, saying law and order trying to imitate Nixon. We must choose reconciliation or retaliation and revenge. I hope President Obama will address underlying the police issue is the issue of jobs training and economic reconstruction and race disparity. Race disparity is real it is real and its growing

1:25:29 I understood what he said, but i have a better Jesse Jackson clip. He was all over the place. The Reverend listen to this. I think all of us can do more and at this stage must do more because with these military style weapons on the streets uh this thing could get much uglier There is fear. Police are in fear, the people are in fear, children are in fear but fear and hate must not drive our agenda love and hope and healing must drive the agenda I agree with you on that point, but it's important to note as well that military-style weapons if you're talking about machine guns are illegal for the most part and i think is a distinction we need to make when we talk about that. Yeah but in Texas these AK47s not only can they shoot up theaters and churches they can bring down airplanes! It is irrational! Did you hear what he said? That an AK 47 can bring down airplanes? Can bring down airplanes!

1:26:27 We gotta stop with these AK-47s bringing down airplanes. I thought mine was a better mumble. That was a better mumble, but I thought the AK bringing down an airplane is... Okay yeah that's what those yeah those AKs man i'll tell you With that woman stopping him when he's saying military we're not talking about just guns were talking about these tanks these armored vehicles these sound ray machines and all the rest of it To be fair to the reporter, she followed up and said excuse me with all due respect Reverend but an AK-47 can't bring down an airplane. Oh man... What if he got lucky? I don't think so And with that i'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C where the c stands for Caucasian straight old white male Dvorak

CHAPTER 22 / 36 Discussion

Philando Castile Radio Tapes, Media Laziness and De-douching

A donor named Andy provides perspective on the Philando Castile shooting, questioning why mainstream media outlets have not played the full police radio tapes. The hosts discuss the "conspiracy of laziness" in journalism and the lack of evidence regarding Castile's concealed carry permit. The segment concludes with a "de-douching" ceremony for the donor and a comedic audio clip involving James Comey and Hillary Clinton.

philando castile· police radio· media bias· hillary clinton· james comey

1:32:05 Okay, that would be it. Dvorak dot org slash NA we have- Wait! I have another one and $200 from dude named Andy who is from Minnesota Nuts Big note. Oh okay well then i'm confused Yeah Don is another note Okay well now I must've mixed...I think dude named Andy's the guy was a student loan debtor No? This uh..i don't know Okay, no I see this okay. This is my spreadsheet because if I scroll down it just jumps right to Jason from Canada So I'm I'm missing the dude named Andy okay Thank you for your excellent work that you do on the show been a regular listener since about show 700 I have no doubt that the karma and brain cleansing I've received from listening to the show led me to get the kick-ass job at land when starting listening To the show we love hearing that

1:32:57 I've decided that i've been a douchebag long enough even though just today, I hit my longtime friend Dan in the mouth. I'm still climbing out- here he is! I'm still climbing out of student loan debt but it's time I carved out a $200 donation for you even though I'm sure that I still owe you more under the value for value model Seems that I am need of a de-douching Can I get a clip of Comey not recommending prosecution followed by Hillary? It's almost too good to believe my friends That would be dynamite. Also a round of jobs, karma for everyone I'd like to add some perspective about the shooting of Philando Castile in Minnesota and he has quite a long note but he does say that he feels our analysis of the officer involved death of Philando Castile is spot on The officers had valid reason for pulling over the vehicle even if that was not the case The sequence of events led me only to the same conclusion as yours My question is why are we the only ones who played the officer...the radio tape?

1:33:49 I don't know. We've done this before, we've done it with the shoot of so-called you know forced landing yeah with Snowden and we've done this a number of times we've done it with them with the 911 tapes that were bullcrap from Sandy Hook Yeah why doesn't anybody but us play these tapes? It's... then you could only think that maybe there is some big conspiracy I don't know No conspiracy its laziness Laziness. No, I think that it didn't fit the... The conspiracy of laziness doesn't fit the narrative And when you look at photos as Castile's car was still there and when it started to get dark both taillights are working so but I don't know where that came from other than from our lavish diamond... The girl doing streaming Auditioner Doing her audition Yeah

1:34:48 But, you know we have the...and also there's still no conclusive evidence that Castile had a concealed permit license. But it doesn't matter because we know what reality is. We heard it from the professionals from The Washington Post and MSNBC. Reality is what you see on television everything else is just not real." What did he want here? I don't have the...I can do the Hillary thing, but uh... Yeah well he wants to see things because it would be funny to have Comey saying we don't recommend prosecution then have Hillary say it's almost too delicious to believe my friend. Right! But I'd have to go in and edit that. Yeah we can't do that with-that's not a clip you if you're gonna request clips they have to be clips yeah not something that we played on this show that happens to be have something within it

1:35:40 Because we can't do that on the fly. It's just not possible. That would take a little bit too much so I can give him the Hillary... it's almost too delicious to believe my friend You've been de-douche'd Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. There we go! And that concludes our little group of well-wishers, very little today... Well but thank you, thank you very much. Thank you a lot and sorry about the 714 not working out with anybody. We must have lost all their... Absolutely zero on that huh? Yeah it didn't work at all I didn't get one person to say well I can do that

CHAPTER 23 / 36 Discussion

Las Vegas Meetup, No Agenda CD and Defcon

Ramsey Cain is organizing the annual No Agenda Las Vegas meetup on August 6th at the Encore Lobby Bar, coinciding with the Defcon hacker convention. Listeners are encouraged to visit noagendacd.com for details on the event and to participate in distributing CDs to convention attendees. The hosts highlight the presence of cybersecurity experts and federal agents at the event.

las vegas· defcon· no agenda cd· ramsey cain· meetup

1:36:24 Take a double executive producer thing. Dvorak.org slash A, we have another show coming up on Sunday no more... We don't have Bastille Day as a gimmick and we'll see Well how about just screw gimmicks? I don't need a damn gimmick. Look at the work we're putting in! Yeah you do apparently, if you don't have a gimmick nobody seems to care. PR mention here from Ramsey Cain of course the brain behind noagendacd.com and he's doing his annual Las Vegas meetup Which I believe falls at the same time as Defcon or... Yeah. The meetups in Las Vegas are the Encore Lobby Bar on Saturday, August 6th 7pm At some point someone should be going down to the strip to hand out CDs once again All of the details are both at noagendacd.com and noagendaSaturday26.com

1:37:16 Interesting. Last year's attendees included Dame Angela, CitizenX and a number of other NA luminaries that I know don't want to be mentioned. We had a blast last year and expect no less this year! Any questions can be directed to NoAgendaCD at gmail dot com or just go get all the information at NoAgendaCD dot com. Great for- And by the way those events are great. DefCon is terrific event And as the FBI spooks are there and CIA guys and all kinds of crazy hackers. And our guy's that's fantastic. And our guy's floating around giving out CDs We appreciate that we appreciate all of our one executive producer, our associate executive producers today thank you so much You do make it possible for us to do a lot of this work and its highly appreciated Please remember we have another show coming up on Sunday Devorak dot org slash N A

CHAPTER 24 / 36 Discussion

Obot Dinner Feedback, Sports Podcast and Media Milieu

The hosts discuss the fallout from a dinner with high-profile journalists John Markoff and Greg Zachary. After being labeled "Obots" on a previous show, the journalists sent real-time feedback and "nasty notes" to the hosts. The segment explores the "isolated liberal progressive milieu" of mainstream media figures and mentions a potential future sports podcast focused on the NBA.

obot· john markoff· greg zachary· wall street journal· new york times

1:38:07 Maybe in Vegas, maybe in your town wherever you are propagate our formula. Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth What did you was there any feedback from your Obama bot oh yeah, what happened was they wouldn't of course ever heard the show we were talking about just recap for what happened here you had last week We talked about a bet that was made in Last show I had Greg Zachary professor at ASU journalism and John Markov at the house Zachary bitch that he didn't mention his last name high-end high end

1:38:58 guys in the high-end guys very you know well respected in their field and so I they bet me because we fit into the narrative that we had going which was at the progressive for some unknown reason think that Trump's gonna get kicked out of the out of the Conference yeah, and it did mention and loses. He's not gonna get to nominate I even hear everyone saying We have the 28 votes we need whatever that means We have the 28 votes. So they're very confident because they bought into the narrative, because they're in an isolated liberal progressive milieu that would never listen to this show and they would've never heard what we had them say except for our knight in Accra Ghana who Greg knows as a personal friend in Africa cause he goes there all of time so he says hey you were pretty funny, they talked about you on this show it was pretty funny

1:39:53 And so then, so the two guys listened. Oh no! In real life and then they wrote me a bunch of nasty notes Really? But the funny one was listening to Greg's because Greg you could tell he was listening to this show and I'd get a note from him like every 10 or 15 minutes in real time as he is listening commenting on something in this show as he's listening The show was pretty funny with like 8 messages And it all matched up. Well, can you share some of these? They weren't that interesting as if you were full of crap or I don't have any in front of me Markov though did say... But why were you full of crap? You know the notes are just

1:40:37 It's just like you did. We didn't say that it was just saying there was a denying let me grab a note, you might as well do that now because I think if we have two journalists top of their field for Wall Street Journal New York Times listening to the show and sending you notes in real time as a stream of data only detected that Markov just sent one nasty note but it was both nasty notes hey my old bots don't send me nasty notes yeah they did We read a couple of them. Well, not after the dinner Oh well yeah right you're tracking him all the time I'm only doing this. Yeah stalking him exactly Okay let's start with the first note Uh...I am listening to show 841 right now This is just starting

1:41:23 Simple, he says I'm a narcissist and now we must do the podcast about sports. He wants to do his podcast about sports because he's very good at it. And then there is nothing here just by the way blah blah blah... He just letting me know that he starting to listen okay so my email now has to deal with the guy listening to this show in real time. Yeah! He does have one thats worth reading let me see if i can find out which one Did he any point mention how great this shows sounds or? No, of course not. We can't make these guys. Let me see if I can find the one that I thought was... If there's one worth reading out of class because it says, you're outta class! You're outta class! Yeah, out of class means like nobody ever said it was a... Oh wait he says okay next show- Wait but he thought they were rules that you can't discuss anything on the show? That's bullcrap There's one in here that... He's got one, I've got a bunch to him to go through Give me a break, y'know, I'll take my winnings

1:42:24 Something about how Trump will, what does it say? Honestly I now fear that Trump will beat back attempts to stop his nomination. He won! That's how he is going to beat back attempts. The one he bitches about you. Oh thank goodness yeah read that one. Like i gotta find so many of these oh and there it is now I guess he's I don't know how many minutes he's in. And Adam called us pussies He says, ah he's going to regret it when our NBA show is a success. Oh I'm so worried about someone calling me in name on the internet! I'm gonna cry! Cry! You're a pussy! When was that? It was like when I said they wouldn't make the hundred dollar bet So he doubles down and says we'll do $100 And Markov doesn't say that Markov says that I lied about the whole thing Wait you lied about the whole thing?!

1:43:22 He says, this note is actually worth reading. Okay more about me please. That's all there is about you. I like it. We're gonna go to my safe space because the guy from The Wall Street Journal is going to say something about me on a sports podcast! He says He says, I remember nothing about an OBOT discussion. He is fabricating about me. So he's sending this note to Greg, I think and so i had to send him a lengthy note because what happened was when they were talking about Trump, I said oh! This is like the Adams' OBOT dinners...I'm gonna have to talk about this yeah

1:44:07 Markov said he doesn't remember any of this, of course. He was drunk! You had them drunk too? Yeah we did have a lot of wine. He said what's an obot and before I could answer him Greg jumped in with some other bullshit that took us off the conversation And so he forgot even to ask me about what's an obot and So Greg starts talking about this other stuff and then that's when I said I wish I had a recording I should tape this This is so funny listening to these two guys Markov continues and says, I had to look up Obot. So he looked it up but still didn't know what it meant This is the typical... I don't mean to condemn these guys! I love these two guys! But they are isolated within this milieu They've never even heard this term

1:44:56 And she says, and then he comes back at me with this is a tea party term. You're a stooge for the tea party! He says to me... You should say no I'm actually Black Lives Matter it would be funny Yeah i should put black lives matter at the bottom and that was how it ended and I just tried to explain what had happened why did it and I wasn't you know telling anything that was shouldn't have been known It wasn't like I was talking about their size of their dicks or anything So, um... Well at least not on the show. I actually don't know the answer to that question so it's academic. Anyway so that's how it ended and now they're both mad at me except Greg he says yeah you know I think you should just talk about me more often so oh yeah I respect him for that

1:45:42 And I will say, I would love to hear you on a sports podcast. That'd be great! I would listen to that and as we know, I'm not a sports guy...I would listen to that for sure. Yeah, there's the possibility of doing that but it is going to be...we decided it would be NBA We could just we should talk about this occasion because he's not about it. He's NBA all year round It wouldn't be it wouldn't be us talk show where you talk about soccer and women's tennis I'm only tuning in to hear him talk about me are you kidding me? Soccer that called me a pussy You popped it up earlier were talking about the the efficient government

CHAPTER 25 / 36 Discussion

Cyber Power, Global Warming and Computer Modeling

The "efficient government" is reportedly consolidating power through the cyber realm, with the White House accelerating hiring for cyber experts. The hosts discuss how global warming hysteria is driven by the administrative state through flawed computer modeling. They argue that if modeling were accurate, weather prediction would be far more reliable, and they recommend the original version of "Confessions of an Economic Hitman."

cyber security· white house· global warming· computer modeling· efficient government

1:46:25 And during that speech, and please watch that. It's only an hour it's on a YouTube clip but question comes up which is really good question. And his answer with the question answered so long that could really couldn't condense it down to anything clippable That cyber or let's say yeah the term cyber let's just call it that Is really the frontier now as the front lines of this kind of strife between the official government and the efficient government. And when the Obama administration, there was the question. When the Obama administration came in with oh we're that were the techno guys where the internet generation and we're going to do it all did they try to take a lot of that power back certainly in the cyber realm? And did they fail and uh um the author said unequivocally he said Oh absolutely! It's exactly what happened and makes so much sense in hindsight

1:47:23 when we, I mean there was a lot of convincing talk about how this would be the internet generation. We'd have interaction with our government. There'll be all kinds of stuff." No! Remember that? They redesigned the White House website. It's like It was like a refresh of the website is what they wound up with. But if you see the stories now, Department of Homeland Security is now pushing for more cyber experts in the field same day. The report comes out White House accelerates cyber hiring so they may still be trying to do something, but it explains Well of course we knew cyber would be a bonanza But really you know it is the front line of the efficient government running everything and keeping everybody out He I thought one interesting thing. Is he kind of glossed it over didn't say too much about it Just wanted to mention it

1:48:21 I think he blames the global warming hysteria over efficient government. He did mention that because somebody brought it up, he says the global warming thing comes out of efficient government and what doesn't get discussed because it can't... The efficient government just does what it does is to computer models and the debate that you can have over what... Which model is the right model. Yeah, which model's the right model? And there has been nothing but a never-ending debate and people who know anything about computer modeling know that it's a bogus field of study because it's just too many variables, it's never properly done so the whole globe... That's what a lot of global performance skeptics... Well if computer modeling really was accurate then we would be able to predict the weather!

1:49:04 Right, better than we do. Yeah I mean now it's just patterns you see a few clouds coming in that feels like rain the barometers dropping is gonna rain it's not really much to it right within any airman will tell you want to kind of know what the weather's going to be for net for the next six or twelve hours yeah yeah we could probably do will check on route but that said you can't be predicting this stuff weeks ahead just doesn't work this way. This guy is I'm telling everyone out there who listens to the show, this is probably more seminal than economic hitman which is one of other major you have to read books yeah but not the revamp one not a new and do not get the new one they get the original on the original when they start to back off and it's like stuff taken out we don't know what nobody has ever done

CHAPTER 26 / 36 Discussion

K2 Synthetic Drug Outage, Brooklyn Zombies and Media Phrases

A mass overdose of the synthetic drug K2, also known as "Spice," occurred in a Brooklyn neighborhood, resulting in 33 people being hospitalized. The media's use of the term "synthetic marijuana" is criticized as an attempt to discredit natural cannabis. Additionally, the hosts identify a new media catchphrase used in reference to Hillary Clinton: "never getting beyond her skis."

k2· spice· brooklyn· synthetic marijuana· hillary clinton

1:49:53 word-by-word comparison, but something happened on the remake of the book. So you want to get the original right? What else we got? Well I got a couple things... I'll lead into one for you! I saw you have a clip so i'll lead it in. In Brooklyn one neighborhood 33 people You got a clip, right? Yeah I got the K2 clip. Okay this is great! Yesterday more than 30 people in New York... Oh why didn't you say 33 it's 33?! Everybody said 33 in all their articles but this is the only clip by...I took this clip because it has a lot of sound effects in the background people were yelling and screaming we love that and it's very funny it's a funnier clip This was like

1:50:39 two blocks in Brooklyn, right? Yeah somebody's selling some bad K2. Yesterday more than 30 people in New York suffered bizarre reactions to an illegal synthetic drug which is now available all across the country Michelle Miller reports from New York City It was a bizarre scene. Dozens of people with blank stares, stumbling around the Brooklyn neighborhood yesterday. This is crazy. Brian Arthur live streamed it on Facebook as I'm walking up the block. I see everybody laid out on the floor And everybody's just stumbling all over the place. It looked like a scene out of a zombie movie. Emergency workers sent 33 people to area hospitals saying they appeared to be under the influence of the synthetic drug known as K2 or spice

1:51:27 Designed to mimic marijuana, the man-made drug has far more powerful effects. This man says he's used it before. What K2 does is put you in a world, a delusional world, have your mind spinning, it's mind altering... K2 was made by spraying various legal chemicals onto plants It's then ground up and smoked Users experience confusion, hallucinations rapid heart rate and even seizures. Police say it sold its small neighborhood grocery stores. A CBS undercover producer found it at this Brooklyn corner store last year

1:52:07 All right. $10? $10. K2 usage is growing nationwide, the CDC reports more than 3500 calls of synthetic marijuana use to poison centers over a five-month period last year that's a 229% jump from the year before now I just noticed something finally the quarter dropped this is too discredit marijuana They keep calling it synthetic marijuana. It's not synthetic, okay? I think it's to open the way for legalization of marijuana because a meme that has been floating around is that no one has ever died from an overdose of marijuana and that's been in all reports every time you hear about legalizations well no one has ever died so you have this bad shit K2 although it sounds dynamite I don't know what he says but if you see these people staggering around...I saw the video!

1:53:04 It's like, I think it is just the opposite. The idea is that we can get this horrible product off the streets and regulate marijuana. It could be either way but I'm glad you brought that side up because that could be that but I don't think so And there was meanwhile, and as an aside I want to mention something. The guy says that they're talking about people laying on the street the guy says there's people all over the floor yeah and in one of the shootings at the Baton Rouge when he says the guy was cop jumped him and then he hit the floor we're talking about the ground Yeah well this is a lot of these weird things

1:53:50 I have a new one to look out for. I wrote it down. Alright, well look out for Floor. Floor and then the other one is... She doesn't get out beyond her skis. I've heard this three times, I didn't clip it And its in reference to Hillary She never gets beyond her skis What the hell's that supposed to mean? I'm not sure but... She doesn't go... she doesn't do things she can't do or she stays within the boundaries Let me just see if I can find it. That's a crazy phrase and you remember that? Yeah, I've been hearing it alot! Um... let me see... It's nothing really... I heard Rachel Maddow say it and I heard some

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Medical Marijuana Research, CBD Benefits and Harvard Conference

Harvard Medical School hosted the first annual CanMed conference, featuring Raphael Meshulam, the Israeli chemist who first isolated THC and CBD. The discussion highlights the medical benefits of CBD for ailments like rheumatoid arthritis and epilepsy. The hosts criticize the continued Schedule I classification of marijuana in the U.S., noting that "old ladies" are becoming a powerful political force for legalization.

medical marijuana· cbd· harvard medical school· rafael meshulam· arthritis

1:54:36 Millennial reporter on CNN say it both in reference to no she was an MSNBC So it's probably an MSNBC thing they're talking about. She never goes you'll watch, You'll be hearing this okay? I'm sure I'll hear it if you've heard it yeah Never go let's go back to pop back to the let's go back deposit Yeah, I have a bunch of pod clips this coincided with what was going on It was actually a couple months ago But now being discussed a lot or as we have a big vote coming up There's a pot vote coming up on the West Coast, but the Harvard Medical School had a huge confab, the first one of pot science and pot medical use of pot and all the rest of it. And they brought in that guy from Israel who's apparently been studying it for since the sixties. He seems to be an expert. So when you hear...and he has done a lot of researches is the one who did found the CBD and founded THC. Uh-huh! And he's the one that when Hillary says we need more research

1:55:34 You pointed this guy's been researching his head off, but let's start with pot update. We'll catch up to this. A possible harbinger. I am from the future. Harbinger another word we identified early on a possible harbinger. I can think of no better place to host the first annual CanMed conference than here at Harvard Medical School so welcome The first annual personalized cannabinoid medicine conference at Harvard Medical School in April. An unprecedented meeting of the minds in the world a medical marijuana. For almost 30 years nothing happened and the father of marijuana research was here to receive a lifetime achievement award

1:56:19 Rafael Meshulam is an Israeli chemist who became interested in cannabis when he began his scientific career. I was kind of surprised to find out that the chemistry of cannabis, and important drug in my view was not well known as a matter fact we didn't know at that time I'm speaking of early 60's then active compounds had not been isolated in pure form In 1963, he identified the structure of cannabidiol CBD one of the most medically important compounds found in cannabis. And in 1964, he isolated the active component a marijuana tetrahydrocannabinol THC

1:57:04 I thought that as soon as we know the chemistry and the pharmacology and then the toxicity, if there are any positive effects companies will go in take compounds and go ahead with clinical trials. Which is true for a huge number of drugs. But this is drug like no other It was made illegal one year after the 1936 release of a cinematic diatribe against marijuana called Reefer Madness. Still, a classic by the way you have not seen it yet. You have to see it

1:57:46 It's not so much the substance itself, it's who uses it. The substance was associated with Mexican-American and African American communities If you look at the precepts of reforbadeness its a pretty embarrassing part of our national history Now, I want to mention a couple of things. When Mimi was down we were talking about this. Mimi has rheumatoid arthritis and she doesn't want to take pharmaceuticals for it and she's discovered that CBD is extremely positive for this sort of ailment. It's magical in a lot different ways and there's actually good explanation for why it works so well but at first before you play that one just play

1:58:32 Pot not, just a little clip. Pot not accepted use. In the US marijuana still remains classified as a schedule one controlled substance The same category is heroin cocaine and LSD with tight restrictions for researchers and no accepted use for medical treatment Now this is shameful Hold on hold on! This is absolutely shameful Yeah, this situation continues and I will blame you. I would even blame talk show hosts like Michael Savage who should know better since he's a guy whose specialty was all these herbs and flowers and edible things and drugs in the wild And he's one of these guys who pounds the drum about how bad it is now These here's what the kicker on this thing so Mimi's using the CBD stuff

1:59:22 as much as she can and she gets more energy, her fingers don't ache. She doesn't have all these issues with arthritis. There's no THC in there? She didn't get high off it is just the cannabinoid right yeah that's the kick you're right that CBD and uh She says if you got I'm gonna go when I go up to Washington next time. I'm gonna Go visit a couple of these places because they get all these different things They've got chocolates, and they got all kinds of crazy the edibles yeah a lot of it on me bears She's yes she told about them She says you go into one of these pot places The place is filled filled with old ladies yeah

2:00:01 It's not, she says you don't see a bunch of hippies and potheads in there. You see old ladies with these aches and pains. Old ladies that have arthritis. Old ladies with all kinds of issues that if you think once this gets out when these old ladies... Old ladies are powerful political force they're not going to put up with this much longer if they take this pot away from them This is not gonna happen That's why it never get reversed at any of the states because the old lady will revolt And this is what this is all about, stuff like that and then there's obviously the epileptic situation where kids are damaging themselves. In fact there's a sad story to be told by this one woman who was... she's a doctor herself and this is the clip of pot seizures. Play it so you hear what somebody has to go through because this was kept illegal for no good reason

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Hemp History, Epilepsy Treatment and Pharmaceutical Interference

The history of hemp in America is discussed, including 17th-century laws requiring farmers to grow it and its later suppression by paper and pharmaceutical interests. A case study of a child with epilepsy shows a 40% reduction in seizures using CBD, raising questions about the "shameful" lack of research permitted in the U.S. The hosts argue that the film "Reefer Madness" was a tool used to associate the plant with racial minorities and criminal behavior.

hemp· epilepsy· pharmaceuticals· reefer madness· brain damage

2:00:59 from after that stupid movie. Which was mainly... Seizures, seizures! Yeah which was mainly to discredit well actually it was the crazy Mexicans are smoking it they're all going crazy Well, there's a number of factors. One the Hearst Corporation... Paper. They didn't want pot growing because hemp can be used to make paper and they had some forest they owned or something so that was one way of getting rid of it. There was a little ditty that was shown on the PBS NewsHour says in 1619 the Virginia legislature and there was one back then uh the Virginia legislature said by law all farmers had to grow hemp

2:01:41 or ropes and whatever they used it for. But anyway, play this little thing... This is kind of a pathetic story. These are very common. So perhaps it's no surprise that researchers suspect cannabis can do so many things from fighting cancer to concussions to Crohn's disease But perhaps the most dramatic story of how cannabis might be good medicine is in epilepsy. In the 70s and 80s, Dr. Mashulam published studies that showed CBD can curb seizures. There was no further research until parents of epileptic children who did not respond to conventional pharmaceuticals discovered Dr. Mashulam's work

2:02:21 I do come at this with two hats. Neuroscientist, Catherine Jacobson told her story at the Cannabis Medical Conference at Harvard. Her seven-year old son Ben has epilepsy. Can you smile? Yeah! After discovering Dr. Mashulam's papers she started giving Ben daily doses of CBD and times making the formula in her garage his seizures diminished by 40 percent But it's excruciating to think about what we went through to get here, right? And and what might have happened if he had been able to do this five years ago or six years ago. I know for a fact you would be a different kid today if he hadn't suffered all that brain damage Yeah yeah well the other thing is obvious It's a magical plant! It is a magical plant and that's why it had to be for Bowdoin

2:03:18 Well, it interfered with drug companies. It interfered with paper companies and had all these issues And then it was associated with blacks and Mexicans talking about racism. Yep! And you have the whole thing, it's just like... All these new facts have been revealed over the last 10 or 15 years and its shameful that they still have- No no no there is no good use for it It doesn't work Its bull crap These guys who are stopping research and they still haven't allowed research in United States The woman said herself, we're not going to get it legalized in the United States. In general, we'll get it legalized a world over and then you can deal with it. I mean this is absolutely shameful that these are our leaders that have done this to us. You recall when they just started with the new White House website? And the president was doing live tweets remember that wasn't even with Jack Dorsey I think

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Endocannabinoid System, Federal Petitions and Seed Saving

The biological function of the endocannabinoid system is explained, showing how THC mimics compounds naturally produced by the human brain to regulate neurotransmitters. Despite popular petitions for legalization, President Obama has historically dismissed the issue. The hosts advise listeners to save heirloom seeds to prevent corporate control of the plant by companies like Monsanto as legalization spreads.

endocannabinoid system· barack obama· monsanto· heirloom seeds· marijuana legalization

2:04:14 Maybe. The first president to do a live tweet session and... Well, they also had that sign up and if we get so many signatures you get petitions. Right, right. And the number one two and three petitions were all about legalizing marijuana. And the President laughed it off if you'll recall. Yep yeah yeah he smoked dope! He should be ashamed of himself for a number of reasons but yeah. Now I have one last clip we want to play this is actually explaining the endocannabinol system within the human body and what might

2:04:52 make, why this stuff might actually be beneficial in certain situations. Still Dr. Mashulam pressed on gradually writing the scientific textbook on marijuana but for years he did not fully understand how and why cannabis works in our bodies And then in the early 90s, he had a eureka moment. THC mimics compounds which we make called endogenous cannabinoids which our brain makes, our body makes...THC mimics their effect All this is called an endocannabinoid system and this endocannabinoid system seems to be extremely important Here's how endocannabinoids work in our nervous system

2:05:36 The nerves that form the electrical grid of our body are not continuous strands of fiber. Instead, there are many gaps in the wiring. The nerve ends are called neurons and the gaps synapses. The electrical current is transmitted from neuron to neuron across synapses by chemical messengers called neurotransmitters. The volume and route of these signals determines what we're thinking, what we perceive and what we feel Our body generates cannabinoids to help regulate the flow of these neurotransmitters. Scientists suspect the active ingredient in cannabis, THC can either increase or decrease the flow of the neurotransmitters and this can have all kinds of impacts on our physical state-of-being The endocannabinoid system is involved in essentially all human diseases How?

2:06:33 And there you have it. Good report, John! I like that very good report what was this on? Where would you get all these from? This is on NPR...I'm sorry PBS the News Hour they've been running a marijuana thing every couple days they did this long report i think this is the end of it and uh it was very positive which makes me wonder about the K2 Report being negative for a reason Either to counter these reports or to enhance them. That's why I was interested in the K2 situation with the 33, because 33 is a magic number that shows up so we know something is bogus about this. Well, I'm still very worried that what will wind up happening is... The government will control it you know? So the pharmaceuticals can make lots of money with it. The beauty of course

2:07:17 A plant that is nicknamed weed is you can pretty much grow it everywhere. And I have to say by coincidence the other day, I found about seven seeds in my bag which... You don't get that anymore! No no you do not get seeds. But they sell seeds and buy seeds Yeah but I got them for free was a package deal was fabulous But, you know we're looking at genetically modified wheat all kinds of stuff. So thank goodness if you got seeds hold on to some I mean screw the one acre crisis garden before we really need to have a vault yet heirloom seeds because the minute they start moving in the minute Monsanto owns it then it'll be a very big problem and that can only be... That's the only thing they must be thinking of and in that case- Well I agree with you but I think

2:08:09 I think it's too late. And, I think the thing you said, it's a weed, it grows everywhere and it grows easily and it doesn't take a lot of effort to grow this stuff and people grow it. Now that you have Oregon, Washington, Alaska, I think, and Colorado completely legalizing it and going through the process despite the bull crap stories about oh there's traffic wrecks Oh, people are going to die. A dog ate my pot and he died! The dog died... The cat- the kid ate my chocolate And the kid ate his chocolate and is all stoned We had take him to the hospital All these bullcrap stories that keep coming out It's too late Well, the good news is if this value for value model doesn't work out we can always go back to selling seeds Yeah I'm gonna show myself old by donating to No Agenda Imagine all of the people who could do that Oh yeah, that'd be fab

CHAPTER 30 / 36 Discussion

University Scams, Trump University and State Lotteries

The hosts compare the controversy surrounding Trump University to the broader "scam" of the American higher education system, which they claim forces children into debt slavery. They criticize state lotteries for failing to properly fund education as promised and note that Hillary Clinton criticized Bernie Sanders for suggesting free tuition was practical.

trump university· higher education· student debt· state lotteries· bernie sanders

2:18:19 with the fantastic material. I was just as i was reading that note from Zachary, you know this they've been interviewing some guy about Trump University and how you know there were scamming people and getting them to pay $34 000. I'm thinking all this time spent Trump University. Have you looked at the scam that is university in general where you force children to slavery? We're not gonna talk about that, we're 34 thousand... Bernie was talking about it and when Bernie was talking about it Hillary slammed him for talking about it yeah you can't do it! It's not practical this is the way I was when I was a kid

2:19:03 I mean, you know at some point there's not gonna be anybody left who got free tuition but...I remember it. Yeah And it was doable and worked out fine! I want to thank everybody of course we have another- Oh hold on a second one more thing Then they bring in these lotteries to all these states that are supposed to support the education system, that make billions of dollars. And then that money just... where does that go? This whole- I'm sorry just thank people. You have a kid in college still do you? No she's working for a living. Oh good is she paying you rent

2:19:40 I still give her an allowance. I know, I know...I got the same problem Thank you all very much for supporting us No it's not a problem When donations are low is a problem Yes! Sorry i can't help you with your allowance this week Please remember us for our show on Sunday Dvorak dot org slash N A Jobs Jobs Jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. And we start with our belated birthday Vladimir Landman says happy birthday Sir Bernie Adama July 5 was his birthday Zachary Hanslik celebrating tomorrow Jason from Canada says happy birthday to his husband Emilio turning 32 today Christos Zimonik, Happy Birthday to our man!

2:20:37 I have a couple of clips as we wind it up for today. Kind of under reported, but of course there was so much going on with the Black white and blue Ashton Carter our Secretary of Defense Announced something I'm pleased to report today in that connection that we agreed for the United States to bolster the Iraqi efforts to isolate and pressure Mosul by deploying 560 additional

CHAPTER 31 / 36 Discussion

Mosul Troop Deployment, Mission Creep and State Department Rhetoric

Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter announced the deployment of 560 additional troops to Iraq to assist in the effort to retake Mosul. State Department spokespeople denied that this constitutes "mission creep," arguing that the mission itself has not changed. The hosts mock the linguistic gymnastics used by officials to justify increasing military presence in the region.

mosul· iraq· ashton carter· mission creep· pentagon

2:19:40 I still give her an allowance. I know, I know...I got the same problem Thank you all very much for supporting us No it's not a problem When donations are low is a problem Yes! Sorry i can't help you with your allowance this week Please remember us for our show on Sunday Dvorak dot org slash N A Jobs Jobs Jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. And we start with our belated birthday Vladimir Landman says happy birthday Sir Bernie Adama July 5 was his birthday Zachary Hanslik celebrating tomorrow Jason from Canada says happy birthday to his husband Emilio turning 32 today Christos Zimonik, Happy Birthday to our man!

2:20:37 I have a couple of clips as we wind it up for today. Kind of under reported, but of course there was so much going on with the Black white and blue Ashton Carter our Secretary of Defense Announced something I'm pleased to report today in that connection that we agreed for the United States to bolster the Iraqi efforts to isolate and pressure Mosul by deploying 560 additional

2:21:27 troops in support of the ISF and Especially at the PR West airfield and with these additional force US forces I'm describing today will bring unique capabilities to the campaign And provide critical support to Iraqi forces at a key moment. Yeah, yeah, it's like hey over there Yeah, you put your hold it up like that and pull the trigger here 560 extra ones this of course did raise some questions about In the State Department? Wait a minute. Do we have mission creep?! It was done in full consultation and coordination with the Iraqi government, all of our troops in Iraq are there at the invitation and support of the Iraqi goverment that won't change with this additional deployment What do you say to critics who are saying this is definitely mission creep because

2:22:24 And what kind of role I know you might follow me to the Pentagon with my what kind of all they might play in? The world, right. I'm gonna refer you to the Pentagon but listen it ain't mission creep if the mission ain't changing and the missions not He says it ain't mission creep If the mission ain't change in I'm gonna refer you to the Pentagon But listen it a mission creep at the mission ain't changing What is this one way and also needs these like on the streets it ain't baby date It ain't. Shut up, slave! Well they've sent a bunch of troops to South Sudan. Which clip on South Sudan? CBS? There's two. Yeah one is about the voice.

CHAPTER 32 / 36 Discussion

South Sudan Conflict, US Troop Deployment and Oil Interests

The U.S. has deployed 47 troops to South Sudan to protect the embassy and American citizens following a flare-up in the civil war. The conflict is described as an ethnic and religious struggle, but the hosts argue it is primarily driven by oil interests and the involvement of China. The UN reports that four million people in the region are currently threatened by famine.

south sudan· sudan· famine· oil· ethnic conflict

2:23:15 This is a South Sudanese accent and I recorded it for one reason only. Can i do an African...I've always thought it would be good to do an African accent, not for racist reasons but just because it's a funny accent and south sudan accent play this clip the guys who thought too much so we we we we we got confused people are running that time since it's it seems that saturday till now the bullets on the shooting even at night to receive a gunfire than the bullet sold in the end of the day i'm moving you can read color so we have played he then we need to go back to him trevor noah

2:23:58 He's from South Africa. Yes, but when he does stand-up he does all the voices of Africa. Oh that's great! And he is hilarious because he nails these voices and you... he goes from culture to culture. He can do that voice But anyway, let's play. Here is the clip South Sudan CBS. Thank you in an important developing story 47 American troops have been rushed into South Sudan to protect Americans and the US Embassy It was five years ago that the U.S. brokered a deal that created the world's newest nation splitting it from the rest of Sudan but civil war between rival ethnic groups cleared again this week The UN says more than four

2:24:43 Four million South Sudanese are threatened by famine. Well, they did a wonderful job in South Sudan creating the country and then abandoning it. And this ethnic thing is really Muslims versus Christians from what I can tell you. This is all about oil at the end of all the stories. All the oil that created this state that they have to send the oil up to Sudan to the north for it to be refined and who knows? It could be the Chinese causing crap.

CHAPTER 33 / 36 Discussion

ISIS Digital Caliphate, Middle East Unemployment and Media Slips

Undersecretary of State Richard Stengel testified that the "digital caliphate" is shrinking, leading ISIS to target mentally unstable individuals. During his testimony, Stengel made a Freudian slip, using the word "television" instead of "terrorism," which the hosts interpret as a sign of how officials view media-created reality. A Libyan taxi driver's perspective on the post-Gaddafi era is also shared.

isis· libya· richard stengel· television· middle east

2:25:34 took a ride to Austin from the airport, which actually works pretty well. And the driver was from Libya! and I didn't record it, but you know when the driver's from Libya like oh wow this is great how do you feel now that then we ruined your country. He said he had a very interesting take on it says man things weren't great under Gaddafi and people in Libya need to want it themselves this is never going to be solved it's going to take beyond my lifetime he says the whole problem OPEC divided up all the oil in, you know, the eastern region of the country. So it's Jordan and it's Saudi Arabia. It's all the countries are divided up and so that's the whole business as long as they're holding on to the oil, the country can never recover. Well, that was pretty interesting. He wasn't mad at Hillary either. Huh? He said now we only have ourselves to blame. Hmm. Well good. Yeah. People hating us however Richard Stengel

2:26:37 who is Undersecretary of State Public Affairs, he was on a show that... Someone send me a link to this. I was watching it and he explains why ISIS finds such an audience in Middle Eastern countries And the only thing he forgot to throw in was climate change, but this was an interesting little exchange. I don't think it will come as a surprise to you Congressman or anyone on the committee that in many of these places where they're searching out sympathizers there's high unemployment

2:27:20 There's lack of education. There are governments that don't necessarily value free speech, so there is this market of unhappiness that exists already I think now because the digital caliphate is shrinking they are looking for people who have mental health issues who are psychotic and they're trying to pinpoint those but... Whoa whoa hold on a second That's right, that right there is interesting. He says the digital caliphate is shrinking and so now they are looking for mentally unstable people? Yes! That's exactly what he said

2:28:01 You missed that when you clipped it? No, I heard it but just thats not even the big part. I was just like wow! That's what your going for from... and I didn't think the digital caliphate was waning. I didn't either. that ISIL's ideology even if they became non-violent. There is terrorism that goes by many different flags around the planet, not all... False ones! Not all terrorism... Can you back that up? Back it up, back it up I want to know what was the number? I missed a number. Youth 18 to 24 in the... I need them back here, back, back, back

2:28:54 The burst in Marsteller poll that came out a couple of months ago shows that 80% of the youth 18 to 24 in the Middle East completely reject ISIL's ideology even if they became nonviolent. There is terrorism that goes by many different flags around the planet, not all television, not all terrorism is ISIL based In fact one of things we see... Did you hear him drop the word television? That's the one that I wanted and this fits into the theme of this whole show He and he I live watch the whole thing. He didn't come back to it, but this was a slip of Freudian slip He had television on his mind as the reality what these guys consider to be reality That's how I deconstructed listen again Isis ideology even if they became nonviolent there's terrorism that goes by many different flags around the planet Not all television not all terrorism is is ISIL based in mm-hmm What do you think?

2:29:50 I like it. What was on his mind? He was thinking television... Play it one more time, one third time to see if we can really figure out what he would What's he talking about? Completely reject ISIL ideology even if they became non-violent. There is terrorism that goes by many different flags around the planet, not all television... Not all terrorism is ISIL based in fact Maybe he saying not all terrorism is meant for television Well and the sentence would have gone, not all television is ISIL based And we know for a fact most television is ISIL based

2:30:32 I don't know. That's crazy all television, all television is terrorism based maybe? I don't know there was definitely weird... There's something there maybe one of our producers can come up with a deconstruction we can't. ISIL ideology even if they became nonviolent there's terrorism that goes by many different flags around the planet not all television not all terrorism is is ISIL-based. In fact, one of the things that we've seen with the metastasization of ISIL is that it's become a brand of convenience for people who have grievances that had not anything necessarily to do with ISIL's ideology and

2:31:09 I should have said this in the answer to the first question, one of the other misconceptions is that ISIL's content is all negative and filled with beheadings. We estimate that 80% of their content is positive about the beauties and joys of the caliphate and the duty of every Muslim to go to the caliphate so for many people it's actually a inspirational message So inspirational. Yeah, let's chop off a head yay! Well I only have one clip then if you're gonna wrap yeah, I got one more but well you do yours cuz mine is kind of purportedly funny

CHAPTER 34 / 36 Discussion

Gun Background Checks, Criminal Thoughts and Wall Street Reform

Congressman Crowley suggested that gun background checks should identify individuals with "criminal thoughts," a concept the hosts liken to "pre-crime." Additionally, Congressman Keith Ellison's comments on Wall Street reform are criticized for demonstrating a fundamental misunderstanding of how the stock market and business investment function.

gun control· background checks· keith ellison· wall street· dnc

2:31:53 It's a women industry. Then I will leave you with this, this is your Democratic representative from New York if you live in New York Crowley and of course with Dallas we need to get rid of guns and how are we going to do that through background checks? A background check, which of course background checks are in place. You have federal background checks but what exactly do they test? Well we know that if you have a history of domestic violence or other issues with law enforcement that's a flag

2:32:33 But I was unaware that this is the actual thinking of this congressman, what he really wants the background checks to do. And we've been talking about this have been harbingers of things to come and here it is once this guy gets into some bill writing This is what you'll see The issue of gun violence is not going to go away We know that! We just know it! This could very well be a very hot summer We don't know what ramifications will come to thoughts who have criminal thoughts or records or behavior that would lead law enforcement to deny them access to those weapons. That's what we're looking for, that's what the American people are looking for. Before it's a cram its pre-cram! You have criminal thought son no gun for you. Criminal thoughts? Yes criminal thoughts but I

2:33:45 You gotta think, the guy believes this. That a background check involves probing your mind for criminal thoughts. Yeah hypnotize you to see if you get criminal thought Well now that you got a stupid thing like that I have a different clip. It was stupid it wasn't stupid. It's stupid! Thanks! No now there was a stupid clip The guy was an idiot Yes of course This is another one Ellison, the congressman—the Muslim congressman who's all in for Hillary as part of the DNC's platform committee. And he says this— Now, Politico talks about the language adopted in the platform. They describe it as sharp language on Wall Street reform. What does that mean, Congressmember Ellison? Well, I think that they don't really appreciate the fact

2:34:41 That the role of Wall Street is to take people who have money to invest and put it into businesses that need the investment. That's what they're supposed to do. That's all they're supposed to do, but what they've done is use that intermediary role to reap massive profits for themselves and put the economy at risk. And you know there is this philosophy that any regulation of business is somehow interfering with this sacrosanct market concept and should be discouraged I disagree with that entirely Hmm. He says, and they're showing the trading floor of the New York Stock Exchange I think he actually believes that when you buy stock You actually get some stock? Well when you buy stock that money is going to the company

2:35:28 Oh, really? If you listen to the beginning of what he said. The reason for Wall Street is so you may hear it again was here now Politico talks about the language adopted in the platform they describe it as sharp language on Wall Street reform What does that mean Congressmember Ellison Well I think that they don't really appreciate the fact That the role of wall street Is to take people who have money To invest and put into businesses That need investment That's what they're supposed to do. That's all they're supposed to do, but what they've done is use that intermediary role to reap massive profits for themselves and put the economy at risk." Oh man he's a congressman? Yeah he's Ellison! He's that Muslim guy from

2:36:15 Michigan. Muslimia. That's insane, he just doesn't understand how it works He doesn't have a clue! It's clueless and he's a congressman making laws okay well that's the reason for the efficiency government as you want to... Okay so the clip I have that's the last clip for me is Cameron gave his last Prime Minister questions thing Wednesday night and it was A lot of jokes and so there's, I said somebody mentioned it was like a stand-up routine. And I noticed he has a certain cadence when he answers questions somebody asked him this stern question

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David Cameron Resignation, 10 Downing Street and Boris Johnson

David Cameron delivered his final Prime Minister's Questions, which included jokes about his lack of recognition in the U.S. compared to Michael Bloomberg. The hosts discuss the history of 10 Downing Street, noting its yellow bricks were painted black due to pollution. Boris Johnson's new role as Foreign Minister is highlighted as a significant development in the new Theresa May administration.

david cameron· 10 downing street· boris johnson· theresa may· prime minister

2:36:57 And he always answers, well a good honorable gentleman is right when he says this. But the Labor Party has never done a good job about that and we've done a great job and furthermore you guy wears red socks! Then he gets to laugh at the end it's always it's the same structure yeah but so I said well they're supposed to be funny this whole thing...I found one funny bit I have to say it's kind of amusing And I thought it'd be a way to end the show. This is Cameron and this is his last time we're gonna see him as Prime Minister, and this is his last appearance he got over standing ovation everybody had a great time in and this was the only joke I thought worth clipping. I think were all still a bit shell-shocked but I think the main change that's happened in less than three weeks... No no no, you get the British ambassador there some this guy. I'm sorry which clip is it then? Last of Cameron gag! Okay

2:37:51 One day I'll explain why that's difficult. But okay, I believe the politics is about public service in the national interest and that is what I've always tried to do this session does have some admirers around the world. I remember when I did his job and I met Mayor Bloomberg in New York and we walked down the street and everyone knew Mike Bloomberg and everyone came up and said mayor you're doing a great job no one had a clue who I was until eventually someone said hey Cameron Prime Minister's questions We love your show Okay, that was good. Oh man. We love your show baby! Yeah that's how we are in America Cameron. And I think it was another slight towards it yeah dumb Americans all they can think of is television. That's all they think of. But i saw when they were leaving...I did see a moment that I liked as they were getting into the car then his wife

2:38:45 She had so much empathy for him. She was stroking his back, you know? So this guy hit him hard I think it hit the family hard. It was really deep. I think he probably did! It's really beautiful to see that and you don't see... That was a real tender moment unlike George Bush who clearly has been smoking K2 I know, I'm telling you. George Bush... did you see him swaying during the services with- No, I didn't watch that. He was high! I'm telling you cocaine. Cocaine. The guy was high. It's possible. And I feel bad. I feel bad he just looked like an idiot.

2:39:24 If anybody wants to read the light reading, read the Glennon stuff. But definitely if you want to read something funny on Wikipedia because I decided to look it up as he came out of number 10 Downing that be replaced Number ten downing is got a Wikipedia entry page that is well worth readings place was built in the 1500's and has always been under threat to be destroyed Yeah Because it's a piece-of-crap building It's security nightmare Well they've And that door by the way takes eight people lifted solid steel and The bricks did you see everyone should go read the wiki page on number 10 downing all right the bricks You know there are sides those brick building. It's all painted black and

2:40:07 During one of the reconstruction... Is Cameron going to take those to his new house? Like, the brick house? During one of the reconstruction, where they rebuilt the building. It's 200 room house and meeting rooms. It's 200 rooms And the bricks then they start taking the paint off The bricks were originally yellow Oh! And it turned out that so much pollution for so long from this coal burning the coal burning from all those years turned him black and they decided, oh hell with it. Let's just paint him black because that is what everyone is used to seeing. They never restored him to his original yellow. Very funny stuff. Well be fun to have Boris Johnson now as the foreign minister. Yes that will be fun actually. That would be great. Yeah good times! Fun stuff happening. Okay I've got this far

2:40:57 As far as I can go. Oh yeah, and well we'll have more for you on Sunday Please support us remember us at Dvorak org slash na it is the value for value proposition We do the work you keep us rolling And of course the same goes where everybody who's helping us out including Daniel loose and a UK PMX Who have been providing end-of-show tunes for us pretty regularly? Hey oops sorry about that So that's the last thing i'll do until sunday Coming to you from the crackpot condo in the skyscraper downtown Austin Tejas FEMA region 6 in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley. I am John C Dvorak We'll be back on Sunday right here on no agenda adios mofos

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Show Outro, George W. Bush and Final Credits

The hosts conclude the episode with a critique of George W. Bush's behavior at a recent memorial service. They provide final reminders for the upcoming Sunday show and thank the production team, including Daniel Lous and UK PMX. The program signs off from Austin, Texas, and Silicon Valley, reiterating the value-for-value model.

george w bush· no agenda· austin texas· silicon valley· value for value

2:40:07 During one of the reconstruction... Is Cameron going to take those to his new house? Like, the brick house? During one of the reconstruction, where they rebuilt the building. It's 200 room house and meeting rooms. It's 200 rooms And the bricks then they start taking the paint off The bricks were originally yellow Oh! And it turned out that so much pollution for so long from this coal burning the coal burning from all those years turned him black and they decided, oh hell with it. Let's just paint him black because that is what everyone is used to seeing. They never restored him to his original yellow. Very funny stuff. Well be fun to have Boris Johnson now as the foreign minister. Yes that will be fun actually. That would be great. Yeah good times! Fun stuff happening. Okay I've got this far

2:40:57 As far as I can go. Oh yeah, and well we'll have more for you on Sunday Please support us remember us at Dvorak org slash na it is the value for value proposition We do the work you keep us rolling And of course the same goes where everybody who's helping us out including Daniel loose and a UK PMX Who have been providing end-of-show tunes for us pretty regularly? Hey oops sorry about that So that's the last thing i'll do until sunday Coming to you from the crackpot condo in the skyscraper downtown Austin Tejas FEMA region 6 in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley. I am John C Dvorak We'll be back on Sunday right here on no agenda adios mofos

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2:44:17 Amen. Fist bump. Adios, mofo.