Episode 816 · Thursday, 14 April 2016

Dehydrated in China

A strategic data leak targets Swiss secrecy while Russian jets shadow American warships and British politicians trade insults over the looming Brexit referendum.

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About this episode

The Panama Papers leak has emerged as a strategic weapon in a financial war between the United States and European banking institutions. Former HSBC board member James Comey and whistleblower Edward Snowden are linked to a broader intelligence effort to dismantle Swiss bank secrecy, while IMF head Christine Lagarde proposes a global tax system to replace failing carbon initiatives. Russian President Vladimir Putin has dismissed the data breach as a U.S.-led plot, defending associate Sergei Roldugin’s $2 billion offshore accounts as a fund for rare Stradivarius violins.

Geopolitical tensions escalate as Russian fighter jets perform simulated attacks on the USS Donald Cook in the Baltic Sea, following NATO military maneuvers in Latvia. In Ukraine, Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk resigned amid a $1 billion U.S. loan guarantee, signaling a leadership reshuffle favored by the State Department. Meanwhile, the UK faces a domestic crisis over a £9 million pro-EU pamphlet campaign, with Dr. Liam Fox labeling the government's Brexit messaging a dodgy dossier. Nigel Farage warned the European Parliament that open borders have allowed 5,000 ISIS operatives into the continent, while bookmakers currently favor the Remain campaign despite the expulsion of MP Dennis Skinner for calling David Cameron Dodgy Dave.

U2 frontman Bono appeared before a Senate subcommittee to suggest deploying comedians like Amy Schumer to mock ISIS, a strategy he claims mirrors how Dadaists once threatened the Nazis. On the campaign trail, Donald Trump utilized a CNN town hall to showcase his family dynamics, while Ivanka Trump emerged as a dominant voice over Melania. The program also examines the rise of kidney stones among millennials due to kale consumption and the final sign-off of Al Jazeera America.


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CHAPTER 01 / 38 Discussion

Panama Papers, Banking War, European Bank Conflict

The Panama Papers leak is framed as an escalation in an ongoing financial conflict between United States banks and European institutions. A former New York banker suggests the disclosure serves as a strategic move against Swiss bank secrecy. The discussion highlights how these leaks target specific offshore structures while potentially benefiting American financial interests.

panama papers· hsbc· switzerland· banking war· european banks

00:00 They have plenty of stuff. They stole it from us. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Thursday, April 14, 2016 and time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 816. This is no agenda. Ultimately defeating elitist rhetoric and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in Austin, Tejas, FEMA Region 6. In the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where I'm asking the question, why am I shouting? I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Quack Pot and Buzzkill! In the morning! Okay, you always want to know why you're shouting. I'd like to know. Yeah. So, about an hour ago, I popped out to get some coffee and a pumpkin loaf, which I like to have on show days, I'll admit. Pumpkin loaf? Pumpkin loaf. You eat a whole loaf of bread? A whole loaf. It's a slice of a loaf.

00:58 You have a pumpkin loaf slice. Yes, but they they they butter on it. No, I warm it up But I don't put butter on it and sitting there having a meeting in the coffee Establishment is the former New York banker your buddy friend of the show. Yeah, and he says hello. Mr. Curry Hey, how you doing? What time in the morning is this? This is a little before that's right. You're I'm sorry you two hours Yeah a little before nine And he says, you know, so I was driving to Houston yesterday and NPR was doing a fund drive, which is great for us, by the way. When NPR is doing their fundraising, it's like, it's unlistenable. So I said, no, I listened to the show. He says, you roasted every single one of the guests of my party. No, you didn't. You roasted them all.

01:53 I said I thought it was quite complimentary actually. He says yeah, but everyone got raked over the culture well would Do they listen did they listen no only he did only he did now of course it of course it But he said yeah, I think you guys are right about what about the we had a quick conversation about the Panama Papers But the banking war oh yeah the banking. It's all for our banks. Yeah And... Good, I'm glad we got verification on that. That's nice. Well, the verification is that it is... Of course, it's still the US banks against the European banks, but also against Switzerland. What's going on there? Well, do you want to get into this now or do you want to save it for... No, you're on it. Let's go. Okay. Okay. So this goes back to HSBC.

CHAPTER 02 / 38 Discussion

HSBC Data Leaks, Edward Snowden, Swiss Bank Secrecy

Connections are drawn between the 2008 HSBC whistleblower leak and the current Mossack Fonseca data breach. Evidence suggests that Edward Snowden was working in Switzerland during the period when major banking data was being compromised. The involvement of figures like James Comey, a former HSBC board member, points toward a coordinated effort by U.S. intelligence to dismantle Swiss banking privacy.

hsbc· mossack fonseca· edward snowden· james comey· ubs

02:44 and the original HSBC data leak, which was leaked by a whistleblower, by a French whistleblower, about all the secret bank accounts in Switzerland. You remember this? This is... how long ago was this? Oh, let me see. A while back. Yeah, I wrote it... I think this was before the drug laundering money fine, right? It's a separate case. It's a separate case. Yeah, I know, but I think it was before in timeline. Could be. No, it's actually, it's very close because this was 2008 when this first leak came out. Well, it makes sense that they do that for the leak would happen and then they get fined because someone was irked. Right. Which they did. At the time it was $1.9 billion that HSBC had to pay for

03:32 Nasty, nasty business shenanigans. Exactly. Exactly. Now HSBC was using Mossack Fonseca as their registering agent for all of their, all of their money laundering and tax and or tax avoidance schemes. Right. So, so that's how this is. These two are connected. And by the way, Dame Angela in Nevada did a lot of research and I'm really, I really appreciate it. Okay, so we have Mossack Fonseca group who did all the shell companies, a lot of the shell companies for HSBC for their shenanigans. Then it was investigators from the USA, from the states that got HSBC's internal documents. And it's the same, many of the same mainstream news outlets that reported on the HSBC data leak

04:32 are now on this Mossack Fonseca data leak. So it's kind of like all and they also spent a year, there was 130 journalists. It's crazy when you read this, the similarities between what was reported six or seven years ago about HSBC and what we're seeing now with the Panama Papers. But here is The kicker for me, this leak of HSBC was done by a French IT guy, dude named Ben, or dude named Benjamin. Benjamin en français. And he wrote a biography recently. And this is what I liked in his foreword. The presence of several intelligence services suggested an undeclared war in the background, a war between the United States and Switzerland to abolish bank secrecy.

05:24 It is possible, therefore, that the HSBC files were an instrument of clandestine negotiation on behalf of the United States. And get this for an extra super kicker, this guy, again, he was an IT guy who saw all the shenanigans going on at HSBC, he leaked the documents to the authorities. He said in Switzerland while he was there as a part of the HSBC intranet or some other service that was going on, he says, You'll never guess who was hanging out working in Switzerland at the time. I'm gonna give you one. Mueller. Close. It's better than that. Okay. Snowden. Oh really? Yeah. So when you put together James Comey, board member of HSBC around this time,

06:15 and now director of FBI for 10 years, and that's a pretty solid position. You take this connection, this deeply rooted connection between HSBC, and we're going to throw USB in there and a couple others. UBS, I'm sorry. But it clearly seems to be US banks with help from an intelligence agency screwing over whatever remains of these crappy little banks that we have won over, if you remember the words of the former New York banker. We beat them and I think they're just going to put a jackboot to their head or something, just stomp the European banks down a little bit further. And Switzerland.

07:00 This, uh, the idea that Switzerland is the go-to place, as I think you pointed out on a previous deconstruction, that we don't like that. We're the guys. Bring your money here. We know how to do it for you. Well, that's interesting. So I like the Snowden and... I love the Snowden thing. The whole thing is just, from the get-go, this thing stinks. I mean, you kind of spotted that it stunk. I just spotted it was stinking from a different way. But it just stinks. I mean, the whole thing is there's documents out there and I'm sure there's some good stuff in there that's going to be revealed as needed. Of course, this does look a little bit like a blackmail thing. Well, what's nice about this...

CHAPTER 03 / 38 Discussion

Christine Lagarde, Global Tax Proposal, IMF Strategy

International Monetary Fund head Christine Lagarde has suggested implementing a global tax system to address international financial crises. This proposal is viewed as an attempt to squeeze more revenue from the public following the failure of carbon tax initiatives. Switzerland remains a primary obstacle to these centralized global financial regulations.

christine lagarde· imf· global tax· switzerland· carbon tax

07:43 is there are so many different people and institutions and agencies who are in the know. They see this crisis and of course we know we never let a good crisis go to waste. I tried for days to get an audio or video clip of this, it appears you know it's not available. But, you'll like this, International Monetary Fund head honcho, Christine Fifi-Lagarde, said in an answer to a journalist's question, I wish I could find the actual audio or video, I'm still looking for it. She thinks it's time to, quote, think outside the box on a global tax. This is what they've been wanting for all this time.

08:32 Well, we can't quite get the carbon tax thing. So I know let's just tax everybody globally, you know, because you're moving your money around. Yeah, get some money out of it. Squeeze some more money out of the public. It's fantastic. And let's do it worldwide. I got it. Hey, this will take a little. I got a great idea. This take a little guts, but we're going to do it. And of course, and a roadblock to this has always been Switzerland. Yes. And we're taking them bitches down, Swiss cheese mofos! We're taking you down! Well I'm surprised that the Swiss ended up calling for this because they were...

09:10 When I was in Switzerland once, I got nothing but lectures about how they were so protective of their customers and they don't see any reason. If somebody's not doing anything illegal, there's no reason that they shouldn't be banking with the Swiss. Hey, and wasn't it, didn't we also have a CD like full of names of Greeks who had shuffled money over to Switzerland? Didn't Fifi have a CD-ROM of that? And she was Touting that and when we just were looking at the bailouts the first day of that, but I it wouldn't surprise me Yeah, they did everyone so all these politicians had cheated and and taken the EU money saying their EU money put in Well, I mean the Switzerland was also the banker for the Nazis and they remain neutral I mean they're troublemakers in a very in a very neutral way and their cheese is a jip because it's holds it is not not a full product. It's a jip yeah

CHAPTER 04 / 38 Discussion

Vladimir Putin, Sergei Roldugin, Russian Instrument Funding

Russian President Vladimir Putin defended his associate, cellist Sergei Roldugin, after Roldugin was linked to $2 billion in offshore transactions in the Panama Papers. Roldugin claims the funds were used to purchase rare musical instruments, including Stradivarius violins, to support Russian classical arts. Putin characterizes the leak as a U.S.-led plot intended to destabilize the Russian government.

vladimir putin· sergei roldugin· panama papers· stradivarius· russia

09:58 Jesus, we're sold by the pound, so it's not really... So you won't hear this next clip, I'm thinking you won't hear this news item in the United States or in the United States of Gitmo Nation Europe, Euro lands. Putin has been implicated in the Panama Papers by the media, not by the papers themselves. Most Most poignant is these a couple million dollars his friend the cellist received chalice is the best chalice well the cellist responded and Quite honestly, I think it's so good that you won't hear this response anywhere in our media because oops It's time the paper showed that Putin's associates use offshore accounts to conceal funds Chalice so they rolled Dougan's name appeared on the list of leaked documents last week linked to

10:49 to two billion dollars in offshore transactions. I was going around begging everyone for money, he says, because everything is so expensive. Musical instruments are expensive. The best teachers are expensive. I only want... So this guy is also a professor of music. And as you hear, he's saying, you know, I'm trying to keep the classical Russian performing arts alive. And I need instruments and I need money to teach the kids and You know, a Stradivarius can cost you a million bucks right there if that's what he's talking about. I think they're more than that now. Yeah, it could be. To get the best, the best instruments, the best professors, the best concert venues, nothing but the best for Russians, for our musicians. Vladimir Putin's name does not appear in the Panama Papers. He says the scandal is part of a US-led plot to weaken Russia. Putin also defended Volodymyr Dugin, saying his lifelong friend has done

11:46 I'm going to say it's plausible. I mean, maybe the way he went about it was odd, but it's plausible. A couple million for some instruments and teaching materials, etc. I can see that. Like I said, when this thing first cropped up, this is going to keep us busy for six months. Well, what I'm hoping for is the second wave, as you've kind of semi-predicted. Another one of these guys has got to go down. Yeah, actually they have to do two. There's no way you can do one and it was well, you got lucky. I mean, it's not this is like the reason we dropped two a bombs on on the Japanese. You can't do one because it looks like well, I've never heard this. I like it. It sounds very callous. Yeah, but you can't do one because it's like, well, maybe that's it. They got there. They shot their wad.

CHAPTER 05 / 38 Discussion

Democracy Now Production Quality, Amy Goodman Road Trip

The independent news program Democracy Now is criticized for poor technical production during its current 100-day road tour. Observations regarding flat lighting and poor audio quality in San Francisco segments are compared to low-budget "Russian TV" aesthetics. The lack of depth in the visual framing and audio delays are noted as significant distractions for viewers.

democracy now· amy goodness· tech tv· production quality· san francisco

12:46 I mean, that's what you hope. If you're an optimist, that's what you'd think. And so you have to do too. So they're going to have to bring down some other big organizations. So this is why we also double tap people with drone strikes? Because you just can't do one? Can't take a chance. Can't take a chance. We did a triple the other day. We're getting there. The triple. You know, I think the reporting on the triple may be bogus, but... I don't know. The United States admitted to two, but they said, we don't do three. It's just a waste of money. But it sounds good in a Democracy Now report. Democracy Now, of course, will just take these reports if somebody gives it to them. We'll just go along with that, whatever they said. I tried watching last night. What are they doing? Oh, okay, I better explain. Did you hear the quality of the sound? The whole show was shit. Everything was wrong about it. What's going on there? Because they're on the road. Oh, and they had

13:44 big gaps, you know, like waiting on the road. I think they're doing the production from the full on production back at the studio. So they have delays or something. It was very uncomfortable. That could well be, but they're on the road. So their background, they had one background the other day that was like a photograph. in a frame that was supposed to maybe look like a window, I'm not absolutely sure. But it was against the blue wall. And when I was working with these guys at Tech TV, we had a lot of pros there. And there used to be a common thing they would always say about some productions called Russia. It's just called Russian TV. Where you're being shot in a studio,

14:29 situation where you're behind the mic as a talking head and your background is a wall about one foot behind your head. So there's no depth at all. This is Amy Goodman in San Francisco, whatever she's, I don't even know where she is. It's not KQE. It's no studio I've ever seen. It's a crappy place and she's like, right behind her is this picture and it doesn't even cover the whole frame behind her. It's just a small picture of the pyramid, the Transamerica pyramid. And it's like, and it's a crappy, looks like a lousy photo. And she's standing in front, and then she sounds like she's in an, in an, she sounds like she's in a bucket. Cause the sound, whoever did the sound stinks too. It's just a mess. Yeah. They should stop now, get off the road. She says she's going to be a hundred days on the road going from city to city. Oh, please. Fine. Good. Good, good, good. So that's what it looks so, it looks so crappy. Let's see. Um,

CHAPTER 06 / 38 Discussion

Brexit Debate, LBC Radio, Nick Ferrari Commentary

British talk radio host Nick Ferrari provides a critique of the class-based rhetoric surrounding the Brexit debate. The discussion covers how Labour leaders like Jeremy Corbyn and Dennis Skinner have used the Panama Papers to attack Prime Minister David Cameron's personal finances. Ferrari utilizes colorful language, such as "bilious," to describe the toxic nature of the current political discourse in the UK.

brexit· lbc· nick ferrari· jeremy corbyn· david cameron

15:33 Bank of America, I think is the first to step outside the lines and warning Europe looks frightening But now now we get the information. Oh, it's a report. They just came out with yeah, this is the Let me see yeah, I think they're right. Yeah, it looks horrible of course it does of course it does it's Not good. Well. I picked up a couple of things mm-hmm. I've got I

16:10 Pointed my output of my private birth virtual private network to London so I'm can get a lot of stuff from the UK directly that Ship over here. Yeah, cuz you know you can't just connect directly you have to yeah Which is bullcrap as far as it was just a violet you the internet shouldn't be like that no the BBC's got a feed that I want to see and from some of their more obscure little outlets. Yeah, and you have to be a UK IP address. Yeah. Yeah. That's the main use of VPNs. Isn't that the thing that... It's a bit... ...it was tried in the early days of the... Oh, you can't do... The internet is great because it does all this stuff and you can't block it. Meanwhile, I can't get these fees, but I got... Well, do you pay the license fee, young man? No. You have no right to it.

17:05 So I was listening to this guy, this talk show guy, and talk London or whatever it's called. Yeah, LBC? Yeah, LBC. And this is the guy, Ferrari, he's a big, big shot. He's one of the best guys. I want to play this little clip because there's a couple of things going on regarding the Brexit that I think we should get into since it's a little bit about, since we're talking about Europe. The Brexit is not going to pass under any circumstances, not even close. And now the British, the big scandal... How can you be so sure? How can you be so sure? These clips will make my point for me. For one thing, the British government just sent out a pamphlet.

17:48 costing like 10 million pounds or something and is telling people why they should vote against it. And everyone's up in arms about this. But let's listen to Ferrari, the British talker, kind of set up a couple of the clips. He's actually going to set up my clips. And he's, unfortunately, he's, and this has been going on for decades. The British are getting so British that they're very hard to understand. So are the Americans. Let me ask you a question. That's probably true. We're separating, finally making the schism make it, we're just getting deeper. But let's see if we can understand this guy and listen to what British talk show guy, this might be like a Rush Limbaugh, in other words, he got talks and talks and talks and never takes

18:32 calls All the rich have some explaining to do and they don't care about the poor. That kind of political sophistry should just be a bit hilarious, but it isn't. It's toxic. It's nasty. It is full of bilious intent and it all works rather... Did he say bilious? Yeah. If you listen to his language, it's nothing we would ever... bilious. His wordage is outrageously bilious. What is bilious? I've never heard of this word.

19:14 word. Oh, bilious, that's a funny word. Like a full of bile? Yeah, exactly. In fact, I think that's the root. Okay, hold on. Bilious. Yeah, it means you're all worked up. Yeah, let me just see. Bilious. I had eaten something that didn't agree with me. I was a little bilious. Oh, I'm going to use this. You should. You would be perfect. You'd be the perfect guy to use the word bilious. Oh, I'm so bilious right now. Simply, you employ some fake anger, you caricature your opponent a bit like the old 1970s racists used to do. They're taking your job. And then you give them both barrels, essentially telling them that you are a morally better person than them.

19:52 because they're posh and you're not. And then today, as if you hadn't heard it all, the head honcho of all things socialist and suspicious, Dennis Skinner, stands up. A man more left than an Albanian keep left sign and he plays an utter a differences in political opinion. This is about fighting a class war and it's as dishonest as it is grim. Over the last few days I can't be the only one. I don't think I've seen so many conflated narratives, half-cocked accusation and weird inaccuracies, not to mention stuff that has been blatantly made up. But it doesn't matter to the classists. Note the debate today. Corbyn even managed to link food banks

20:54 with the PM earning a few quid from shares. Six years ago Skinner accused him of dividing the country just because he went to Eton and speaks nicely. Then you've got McDonnell, Mann and Watson all wheeled out like Don Corleone's henchmen to stir it up a little bit more. and then every left-wing weirdo on social media making it up and then sharing it, any old statement they like, and wheeling it out into that well-used echo chamber of modern indignation, the Twitter. They're out of touch. They don't care about the poor people. They're just lying in their pockets, all because a decade ago, Cameron invested 12 grand in the equivalent of an ISA. But it's all you need. Join up the wonky dots, look a bit angry, sprinkle in some hyperbole, and

21:37 Bob's your uncle. In the real world, that kind of argument would be about as effective as a mudflap on a tortoise. He tires me a little bit. Yeah, well he never ends. He goes on and on and on. Some of his metaphors are just crap. I mean the left turn sign is... What does that even mean? Well, more lefter than a left-hand turn sign in, what did he say? Albania? Albania? Yeah, whatever. Fine. But this guy, his vocabulary is nice. So there's a couple of things I just want to jump in for a moment just tying into this. You recall Nigel Farage was in the Netherlands just before the big referendum.

CHAPTER 07 / 38 Discussion

Dutch Referendum, Ukraine Association Agreement, Political Delay

The Dutch government has decided to delay its official response to the Ukraine Association Agreement referendum until after the UK's Brexit vote on June 23. Despite a clear "no" vote from the public, the advisory nature of the referendum allows the parliament to stall. Critics argue this is a tactical move to avoid political fallout while ignoring the will of the voters.

netherlands· ukraine· referendum· mark rutte· mh17

22:24 on the Ukraine Association Agreement between the EU and the Netherlands is the last holdout, they haven't ratified. And the referendum said no, and it's only an advisory referendum. And the Dutch, not last night, the night before last night, they had their big meeting in the parliament. What are we going to do? Of course, the few parties who were all four blowing up the agreement. They said, well, you can't ratify now that people have spoken. Again, it's that legally they can do whatever they want. So they came out with a chicken shit move. Yeah, we're going to announce what we'll do about the results of the referendum after the Brexit referendum in the UK on the 23rd of June.

23:14 What? Yeah, exactly. Well, you're right about the... You nailed it with the word chicken shit. Yeah, yeah. And the Dutch are like, oh, okay, well... All righty then. Sounds fair, sounds fair. What they should say is, we will tell you what we're going to do with the results of the referendum right after we view the radar images from the US about MH17. Oh wait, we're not going to look at those either. The poor Dutch, man. Well, happens. It's not gonna get any better. But the fact that it's... Anyway, okay, so it's chicken shit move. I have a Farage clip whenever you're ready for it. Okay, well, I had a Farage clip that was on one of these talk shows and it was boring. Farage, for one thing, didn't say anything about the... He said that the pamphlet was not gonna make a difference. I think it will. Have you seen said pamphlet? Have you taken a look at it?

CHAPTER 08 / 38 Discussion

UK Government Pro-EU Pamphlet, David Lidington, Liam Fox

The British government faced backlash for spending £9 million on a pro-EU pamphlet sent to every household in the UK. Europe Minister David Lidington defended the mailing as a response to public demand for facts, while Dr. Liam Fox labeled it a "dodgy dossier" of assertions. Conservative backbenchers criticized the move as an unfair use of taxpayer funds to bolster the "Remain" campaign.

david lidington· liam fox· remain campaign· tory party· brexit

24:09 I have been trying to... No, I didn't get a look at it, but I got a look at a rundown that had every point in the... It was like the pamphlet and analyzed. And the pamphlet analyzed is just a pamphlet full of crap. But you play the clip UK pamphlet to get a little idea of about it, about why some people are irked about it. UK pamphlet? It should be something like... It didn't say UK pamphlet. British pamphlet. I was looking at the wrong end of the list. Here's the problem you're gonna have today with me. I know, I know. Take your B12. No. The problem you're gonna have with me is that I, the printer is down. Oh no. I had to write the name of the clips and I, in some situations like British pamphlet, I stupidly put UK just so I didn't have to write so much. Right. However, the clip isn't titled British.

25:06 Yes, it is. 34 pence each of glossy pro-European pamphlets setting out why we should remain in the European Union according to Her Majesty's government. The man with that task, Europe Minister David Lidington. After last week, David Cameron was going to face his own MPs, so he sent out Mr Lidington. And you can hear the jeers in the background. Those aren't Labour jeers. Those are the distinctive jeers of Tory backbench MPs. It was this government which made the commitment to hold a referendum and which delivered that commitment through the EU Referendum Act. And the government has made a clear recommendation to the British people that we judge it in our national interest that the United Kingdom should remain a member of the European Union. But it is also important that this key decision by the British people

26:02 should be made on the basis of the facts. And independent polling carried out on behalf of the Cabinet Office has suggested that 85% of voters wanted more information and in particular wanted the government itself to set out more information on the basis of which electors could take an informed decision. It was like being on safari. Mr Lidington hopped from foot to foot like a vulnerable impala as the hyenas circled behind him waiting to pounce and we didn't have to wait that long before Dr Liam Fox unleashed

26:42 Dr Liam Fox. But the weakness in my right honourable friend's case is that this dodgy dossier, the sequel, doesn't actually contain facts but contains opinions, assertions and suppositions. Not only is it a waste of public money but in effectively doubling the Remain campaign's budget the government has betrayed any sense of fairness in the process of the referendum and has, with the content of this leaflet, abdicated its responsibility to tell the truth. I'm trying to understand something, John. You're saying the Brexit is not going to happen and you're attributing this to the pamphlet? No.

CHAPTER 09 / 38 Discussion

Brexit Betting Odds, Bookmaker Predictions, Market Sentiment

Bookmakers report that betting odds heavily favor the UK remaining in the European Union, despite the political scandals surrounding David Cameron. Current odds sit at 2-to-5 for "Remain" and 15-to-8 for "Leave." Analysts suggest that bookmaker odds are often more predictive than polls because they reflect financial risk rather than emotional sentiment.

brexit· betting odds· bookmakers· david cameron· market sentiment

27:20 I think there's a, this is just, a pamphlet is just one element of all the things that are going on. Yeah, but they did the same in the Netherlands with the Ascension Agreement and everyone was pouring money in. Well, I equate it more with what happened in Scotland. There's no reason in the world the Scots didn't want to split off, but they scared them to death. Yeah, okay. I'm, I'm, I'm just, you know, you'll see, it's, I'm, in fact, right here on this show I'm going to guarantee it's going to, it's not going to happen. Put it in the book, my friend. Here's the clincher for me is the clip. This is again on these British talk shows. This is a bookmaker. Oh well, if it's the bookies. Well we know that there's been a couple of studies that show that these bookies when it comes to these sorts of bets, they seem to have the pulse

28:12 of what's going to happen is predictive and these guys have got it nailed and listen to these odds on the Brexit. What's happening with the betting on a Brexit over this last week or so David? Absolutely nothing. In fairness to Mr Farage he was spot on. This discussion about Mr Cameron and his tax returns has had the square root of zero impact on the odds. So let's just establish what the odds are. Two to five to remain. It is odds on, quite significantly odds on that we will vote to remain at two to five and for us to vote to leave that is 15 to eight. So near as damn it, two to one. So look, the bookmakers, the one thing I would always say is we do not have emotions.

28:54 Right, but the bookmakers can change their odds as they go along, right? They can change... Well, they change them, but they don't... it's not like they're just ad-libbing the changes. Right. Well, no, that's a business. The concept of a bookmaker is to set the odds in such a way that they somehow win. It's the magical somehow they win bit. Well, you're taking bets from both sides. And if everyone's voting, yeah, we're all going to leave. Yeah, exactly. It changes the odds and you have to adjust. The odds are their balance sheet, basically. And the odds show clearly by a huge margin that they're staying in the EU.

CHAPTER 10 / 38 Discussion

Nigel Farage, European Parliament Speech, Turkish Accession

Nigel Farage addressed the European Parliament, celebrating the Dutch referendum results as a victory for direct democracy. He criticized EU leaders for "bowing and scraping" to Turkish President Erdogan and warned that open borders have allowed 5,000 ISIS operatives into Europe. Farage predicts that the British people will prioritize safety and vote for Brexit.

nigel farage· jean-claude juncker· recep tayyip erdogan· isis· eu

29:34 Here is Nigel Farage at the European Union Starfleet Command. Now on behalf of the EFDD group, Mr. Farage. Very surprised. We're here in what I've been told repeatedly is the home of European democracy and so surely we could have taken the opportunity this morning to celebrate the Dutch referendum last week. in which the people said no to EU enlargement, no to the deal with the Ukraine and no doubt had it been Turkey an even bigger number of people would have said no to Turkish accession. So it was a victory for democracy but in particular it was a victory for a little organisation called Gienpile

30:13 a group of young bloggers who managed to get together 427,000 signatures. He is mischaracterizing that group a little bit, but the 470,000 signatures is correct. So it was a victory as well for direct democracy. And this in the week when we remember. And that Gianroberto Casaleggio, the genius behind the Five Star Movement in Italy, has died. This, ladies and gentlemen, is the new politics. Did he, uh, what did he die of, that guy? I didn't even know he died. I didn't know he died until you just played that clip, so I have no idea. Let's see. No, I don't know how to figure it out. And yet, we were told by Mr. Juncker

30:59 that if the Dutch voted no, it would be a disaster. But he hasn't mentioned it today at all. And indeed your predecessor, Mr Van Rompuy, my old mate, says we should just ignore the Dutch and carry on politely. So what we're seeing is the big battalions of vested self-interest doing their best to completely ignore... Now that... Producer Paul caught this for me. That's one of those coded bits he likes to put into his speeches. Did you hear what he said? Let's hear it again. What we're seeing is the big battalions of vested self-interest doing their best to completely ignore the will of the Dutch people. This is from Voltaire. God is not for the big battalions, but for those who would do their best.

31:48 This is from his notebooks and the translations. God is not with the big battalions, but with those who shoot the best. That farage is deep sometimes. I wonder who else picks that up. Do the people there in the Starfleet command understand this? Do they get these little jabs or not? Well, probably, I don't know, but they use words like bilious and weenius. Well, excuse me, I'm using that from now on. ...doing their best to completely ignore the will of the Dutch people. Well, I think things are changing. I don't believe these institutions can survive 21st century technology. I think the will of the people is changing politics in a way

32:28 that makes all of you in this room deeply fearful and so you should be. And as we in the United Kingdom enter the final countdown of our referendum, all eyes are on this Turkish deal. And I think what we see is we see the bosses of the EU bowing and scraping before Mr. Erdogan, who gleefully walks all over you, tramples over human rights at every level. And for Mr. Juncker to tell us this morning that we're making progress, let's just examine that. 1.8 million people have come to the EU in the last 18 months and we've sent back 300. Doesn't sound, sir, like it's going very well to me.

33:16 The one group that will be pleased though are ISIS. They have now managed to put 5,000 of their operatives into the European continent according to the boss of Europol. Something that should send a shiver down our collective spines. I have to say that in the end I think is what the British referendum will turn on. I think we will vote for Brexit and the reason is we'll vote to put our own safety first. It is going to be, as it was in the Netherlands last week, a battle of people versus the politicians. You may have the big money and the big businesses and Goldman Sachs, but we've got our armies of bloggers. And in the end, the people's will is going to prevail. This place won't survive.

CHAPTER 11 / 38 Discussion

Red Card Questions, Vladimir Putin, Ukraine Conflict

During a session in the European Parliament, a German member challenged Nigel Farage, suggesting his support for the Dutch referendum only benefits Vladimir Putin. Farage responded by blaming the West for "poking the Russian bear" by encouraging the overthrow of Ukraine's elected leader. He advocated for a Europe based on trade and friendship rather than a political union with a single flag and anthem.

nigel farage· vladimir putin· ukraine· european parliament· nato

34:03 And we'll talk about this later on. I have some things I want to discuss about, you know, the internet and how it's changed, you know, media in particular. And it's unavoidable that this changes politics. Absolutely. But I think Mr. Farage is wrong. We're not quite there yet where the internet provides, and of course it's a race to shut down the functioning internet before, you know, we really figure out how to govern or influence governance. How to deal with this mess. Or how to deal with it. That's another. He actually got a question. He got a Red Guard question. I mean it's kicked out of the soccer game. I don't get that well That's what I always thought but no apparently a red card question is like you have it I think you have a number like you can ask three shitty answer it maybe you can ask three yellow questions I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I have no idea. I'm just kidding I don't know I wish I wish well look it up. Maybe it is like that. I don't know I think this is one of the German

35:03 members of Parliament. I have a question to Mr. Farage who is sitting behind the British flag now. Don't you think that Quite embarrassing for many Brits that a speaker who's speaking behind the British flag is celebrating a referendum which the only winner is Mr. Putin, who now is celebrating that Europe is not united behind the cooperation with Ukraine. So that's the real thinking, John. They really, really believe this.

35:42 Wow, we did a great job of propagandizing them. Oh my goodness. And remember it started with the gays, it started with the shitty bathrooms he was building in Sochi, and he hated the dogs, and he eats babies for lunch. And the accommodations were no good. The toilets not working. There's going to be terrorism. Don't go. Yeah, a little more. Yeah, the Sochi thing was outrageous. You want to hear his answer here? Yeah, obviously. Yeah, Farage. Go ahead, Mr. Farage. But I'm equally not very keen on going to war with Mr. Putin. Strikes me as being a very silly idea. What did we do? We encouraged the overthrow of a corrupt

36:25 but democratically elected leader in the Ukraine and we in effect have poked the Russian bear with a stick and we're surprised when he reacts. We shouldn't be. I think we should all have our own individual nation-state democracies and I want a Europe, Mr Ericsson, where we trade together, cooperate together, work together, are friends and good neighbours with each other. What I don't want is that flag, an anthem and all these presidents. I don't want political union, I want genuine European friendship. Yes. Bingo. Boom. Shakalaka. Well, he's the idealist amongst a bunch of dummies. I think he's just, he's 10 years too early or maybe five. Well, before we can... I think he's too late. This should have been an issue. It should have been made an issue early on in this scheme. Oh, I'm sorry. I mean it differently. I think the Brexit

37:21 Or, you know, the idea that politics are changing because of the way the citizenry can communicate now directly and also amongst themselves. That will change politics. And it has changed politics. But what he's, you know, just because the Netherlands squeaked by on, you know, 32 percent which is a very wired country, it doesn't necessarily mean it's all happening now. I think he's just a little... he's a little hopeful. It's not happening ever. I don't think it's ever going to happen. I think it's going to be a civil war that makes it happen. Well, interesting you say that. Very respected newspaper in the Netherlands, the NRC, said we expect the revolution to start here in May.

CHAPTER 12 / 38 Discussion

IMF Wealth Tax Proposal, Cyprus Banking, Historical Tolls

The IMF has floated a proposal for a one-time 10% levy on all private savings accounts to resolve the Eurozone debt crisis. This is compared to historical "temporary" taxes and tolls, such as the Golden Gate Bridge fees and the Dutch gasoline tax, which were never removed. The proposal is viewed as a form of legalized theft targeting the middle class and wealthy savers.

christine lagarde· imf· wealth tax· cyprus· golden gate bridge

38:05 And then Fifi comes out, check this out, gets better. Mayday. Is this a communist operation? Probably, probably. Christine Fifi Lagarde has an idea for the euro crisis. And it's the perfect timing now. It's almost set up for this with all of our cashless societies. Where does your money live? Your money lives in cyberspace, protected by your bank. We really don't have cash anymore. So Fifi says, well, the IMF is going to recommend in order because the way we could solve the Euro crisis. And when I say Euro crisis, that's the financial part of the Euro crisis is by charging a one time 10% fee on everybody's savings. Holy crap. How come this isn't leading the network news? Because they're trying to avoid that revolt they're talking about. Isn't that crazy? Yeah.

39:08 It's that's more than a bail you have a for every thousand dollars you have in the bank and your savings account which we've been encouraged especially in the United States to say been encouraged to maintain even though it pays zero interest in today's world maybe such as you know at the end of the year you get a little thing get interest point oh two cents. for this, you know, whatever your account is. And so you've been encouraged this all your life and now with every thousand dollars they're going to take a hundred bucks and steal it from you. So Fifi wrote this. That's just theft. Okay. Well, Fifi wrote this in the IMF fiscal monitor. That's the new, you know, that's her big annual report. And she said, you know, this would really stop the crisis

39:53 And of course, it really only hurts the rich people. You understand this? Oh yeah. Because they're the ones that stand to lose the most. Yeah, they'll lose the most. And some poor schlub who's only got $1,200 in his bank account is out $120 for nothing. Thank you for making me save my money instead of putting it in a mattress. It's a one-time deal, though. It's only a one-time deal. Of course it's a one-time deal. This one time until they want to do it again. You've got to see this. Who's ever bought the one-time deal? Let me stop you here for a second. I just want to have a pep talk. Oh, I can tell you even better. The one-time deal. Here's my favorite one-time deal and then you go into the one-time deal. Wim Kock, who was prime minister of the Netherlands in the 80s, I think. He said, people, we've got a problem with the economy. We're going to put in a one-time and it's only temporary.

40:47 Tax on gasoline, 25 cent additional tax. It's known as the Quartier Francois, the Cox quarter. That's a show title, by the way, Cox quarter. Yeah. And so that was 30 years ago and people are still waiting for it to be removed. All right, well, I got one goes 80 years. Golden Gate Bridge was built with it was gonna have one time fee for about a month across the bridge. Oh really? Then it's gonna be free San Francisco Bay Bridge. What does it cost now? Eight bucks? What does it cost? I think it's something like eight bucks. It's really high. Anyway, the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge, same thing. It was going to be, oh, this is a great bridge, and you're going to get all the taxpayers pay for it, and then there's going to be a one-time fee, a bridge toll, and then it's going to be free forever. No, no. I've got clips from the old newspapers.

41:49 framed that show this. Well what's worse is not only do you still have the fee but you have potholes. Potholes on top of it. And then a scam bridge they built that cost too much. But going across the Golden Gate Bridge is not only expensive by over six dollars, maybe it is eight, but they took the toll takers out. So you have to like have a poll tag or some way to get across this bridge or otherwise you get a $200 fine. $150 to $200 fine. Yeah, if you just ride through, sure. It's a joke. This is a one-time fee, so she's full of crap. That one-time fee is, well, they didn't object to us taking $150 out of their $1,500 savings account. Let's do it again! Now, of course, this is just Fifi. It's just Fifi saying what she says. No, but she's reflective. Fifi's not an independent, you know, loudmouth. She is reflecting thought that is being discussed in media. Amongst the elites, yes.

42:46 Reflective is the word. And they've already talked about this and they're taking their money out of Cyprus. We know that there's certain Cyprus banks stealing money from them and they're gonna steal money from the Greeks. They want to steal your money. That simple. Yes. Well, they don't want to steal it. They just want to use it. They can't get enough taxes from the public at large throughout the world that they just want to steal money now. Yeah. That's fantastic. But I think we should just, if I can just smidge over a little bit into Ukraine, you'll recall that all of our operators were telling all of our intelligence network assets throughout the world, were telling us that look for Ukraine to completely

CHAPTER 13 / 38 Discussion

Ukraine Government Reshuffle, Arseniy Yatsenyuk Resignation, US Loans

Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk has resigned, a move linked to a $1 billion U.S. loan guarantee. State Department spokesperson Mark Toner avoided confirming if the loan was contingent on the formation of a new government. Yatsenyuk, previously identified by Victoria Nuland as the preferred U.S. candidate, is expected to be replaced by a more compliant administration.

arseniy yatsenyuk· victoria nuland· petro poroshenko· ukraine· us state department

43:28 revamp the entire government, fire everybody, start over, something's gonna happen. And that something is starting to happen. As Yats, now Yats, Yatsynuk, Yats, the prime minister, he's resigned. Now Yats, as we know, is Victoria Newland's guy. Yeah. He is the guy. Somewhere, we probably have the clip where she says Yats is the guy, where they're setting up the whole... It's Victoria Newland and then the other guy, another State Department guy, and they're talking about, oh, we get this guy in, that guy... Keep the boxer out, we don't want him. Yats is the guy, he's our go-to guy. So Yats is now out all of a sudden. And well, hold on, I have a clip.

44:14 Hit it. This is State Department Mark Toner man. I never thought I would wish for Kirby Come back, Toner's just not fun. But there's some Asian girl who's new, new to the mix, and I don't know what organization she reports for, but she came up with something very interesting. Said, hey, you know, this, we have a loan, a billion dollar loan guarantee that we're about to give to Ukraine. Could this have anything to do with it? Prime Minister of Ukraine has any implication to the status of a US loan guarantee to Ukraine. If the United States give Ukraine any assurance of giving a loan guarantee? You can hear Toner briskly flipping through his binder to get to the tab. If there is a new government formed. Tab, this tab. Hold on. We'll continue to work with the government of Ukraine to finalize our loan guarantee agreement.

45:10 And that will, which will specify the conditions for the loan guarantee. Mark, the reason I ask is because yesterday the president of Ukraine said on TV, said that while he was in Washington during the nuclear security summit, he got a word from the White House saying that Ukraine will receive a $1 billion loan guarantee if the new government is formed. Could you verify? I so no, that's okay. It's a legitimate question. I just don't I'm not privy to whatever conversation he may or may not have had with the president on this. I again, though, that all I'm saying is that exactly.

45:57 What I'm Portia and go present Portia may have been intimating which is that you know what we need to see now are that they continue to deliver on and meet The reforms they need to meet in order for that long guarantee to continue, but the United States give you quite any assurance that again I just don't have I don't know read on them what conversations they may or may not have had I just don't Not saying yes or no. So this is an extraction the way I see it. Get him out quick. Get him out quick. Biats is our guy, get him out. Prediction he'll be back in the new government once this one has to come down, something's going to happen. And we already have, you know, we already know how to install people there overnight. Like the finance minister, American, who became a Ukrainian overnight.

46:45 So keep your eye on the government in Ukraine. Something's going down. And I don't know where the hell... This all sounds like, this almost is like a Back to the Economic Hitman playbook. Yeah. Who says they ever changed the book? Yes, they didn't. Well, I mean, they came out with volume two. Oh man. Yeah. This is laughable. Yeah. Yeah. I have a related clip about that. No, I do have a I'll talk about this talk about this at any time But you know the Russians are irked about all this of course and they're buzzing our ships that are floating around the ball and pretty close to 30 feet Yeah, supposedly nice. Let's listen to a cup I have two clips of this one on ABC which I just cut short because it stinks though the one on and I also cut up the CBS version but

CHAPTER 14 / 38 Discussion

Russian Jets Buzzing USS Donald Cook, Baltic Sea Tension

Russian fighter jets performed low-altitude passes, coming within 30 feet of the USS Donald Cook in the Baltic Sea. The Pentagon described the maneuvers as "simulated attacks" and a provocative pattern of behavior. The incident follows increased NATO military maneuvers in Latvia and the deployment of U.S. tanks to the Baltic states.

uss donald cook· baltic sea· russian air force· pentagon· nato

47:47 CBS at least had a little background. ABC hadn't... If I listen to the ABC clip, which is the one where I spell buzzing correctly. Good evening and it's great to have you with us here on a Wednesday night and we begin here with that close call. Russian fighter jets barreling past a US Navy ship in international waters just 30 feet away. The images just coming in tonight shot from the deck of that ship. U.S. authorities say those Russian jets there simulating an attack. And to give you an idea tonight of just how close they came, look at this. One of those Russian fighter jets hovering over the U.S. destroyer. I had to stop it there. Is it vertical takeoff and landing? Is this an Osprey that they're flying? It's just hovering. I just spotted that. Ever heard of like a photo stops motion, you moron?

48:35 It's hovering. Look, it's hovering. It's new Russian technology. It's hovering. I'm going to give you borderline for that. I mean, this is a newsreader just reading from the prompter and who wrote that copy should be fired immediately. Look at it hovering. I'm gonna say that all the time now to my friends who were flying. Hey, I saw you hovering the other day Picture and you were hovering is great how that works? All right this year we go to CBS. They have the same report They talk about the jets zoom zoom zoom they have the same B roll that everyone uses to

49:16 But they at least gave a little background as to why this might be happening. Ignoring attempts to contact them. This is the latest in a series of incidents over the past two years in which Russian aircraft have challenged NATO ships and planes. And the Obama administration is planning to lodge a diplomatic protest. White House spokesman Josh Earnest. We have seen a pattern on the part of the Russians in undertaking these kinds of actions that they at least I think intend to be provocative. The US will file its protest but Russia will have made its point. It resents American forces operating close to Russian territory and intends to push back.

49:54 Scott? David Martin at the Pentagon. David, thank you. Well, those Russian fighters may have come out of the blue, but the tension has been rising for years along the old borders of the Soviet Union. In 2014, Russia took Crimea from their Ukraine, which the US supports. Then the US hit Russia's weak economy with economic sanctions, and the Obama administration moved tanks into the Baltic states near today's incident. In Syria, Russia bombed rebels that the U.S. supports and recently the U.S. staged military maneuvers in Latvia. Oh man, I'd like to stop this bullcrap. Who is tormenting who? Yeah, of course we'd like to stop it. That's why we got to get some president. So sick of this. So sick of this. Well, I have a couple of, I think kind of fun little military, just a little bit, a little package of ditties here in regard to ISIS, ISIL, IS, Daesh.

CHAPTER 15 / 38 Discussion

Barack Obama, Fox News Interview, Terrorism Strategy

President Obama appeared on Fox News to discuss his administration's counter-terrorism efforts, claiming he has taken more terrorists "off the field" than any predecessor. He emphasized a message of national resilience, urging Americans to continue attending public events like baseball games despite threats. Critics noted his use of the word "diffident" to describe public perception of his leadership style.

barack obama· fox news· terrorism· isis· drones

50:52 Okay, okay, I said it okay. No, okay, okay, right, okay, go ahead President Obama did a pre-announced interview on Fox News and he said he was doing this because he wanted to make sure he reaches all of America because apparently Whenever he speaks on CNN or CNBC we or MSNBC we don't watch I guess and or half of the country doesn't watch. And here's what the president had to say about terrorism and terrorists in general. Big words, big words. And some people wonder, they think the concern is, do you worry about terrorism and feel the threat of terrorism the way they do? I would say this.

51:35 There isn't a president... He would say this? He would, but that's a performative. He would say this? Well, why about saying something instead of telling us what you would say? Because it's a performative and it's not... it's a lie. There isn't a president... Let's say anything. Who's taken more... Let me hear that, let me say this again. I did kind of like that bit. Say this. There isn't a president who's taken more terrorists off the field than me. I like this. That's probably true in terms of those drone strikes. He's probably got a couple terrorists. Well, there probably has never been a president who has killed as many civilians as him. Oh yeah, that's true too, but he won't mention that. No reason to brag. Be humble, Barack. More terrorists off the field than me.

52:29 Over the last seven and a half years. I'm the guy who calls the family or meets with them or tells them it was a video that caused it all or hugs them or tries to comfort a mom or a dad or a husband or a kid by telling them did he say he's comforting it moms moms and dads and kids no he said emom You and your Obama Muslim thing man a mom or you're right a mom Shut up man, we're never gonna get through this clip now. Or tries to comfort a mom or a dad or a husband or a kid. Come here, a mom. After a terrorist attack. So let's be very clear about how much I prioritize this. This is my number one job. No, that's not your number one job. We know what your number one job is. No, no, your number one job is to protect and uphold the constitution.

53:28 As a constitutional lawyer, you should know that! Let's be very clear about how much I prioritize this. This is my number one job. And we have been doing it effectively. So why do people sometimes think you're diffident? Well, I think part of it is... Ooh! Ooh! Another nice word. Diffident. Diffident. Diffident. Book of Knowledge. Definition of diffinant. Diffident. No, no, stop, stop. What did I say it wrong? It's diffident? Yes, diffident. With a D. We'll try it again. Hold on. A book of knowledge? Define diffident. I like the second definition.

54:18 Lacking self-confidence. So why do you say that lacking such self-confidence, Mr. President? Sometimes think you're diffident. Well, I think part of it is that in the wake of terrorist attacks, it has been my view consistently that the job of the terrorists in their minds is to induce panic, induce fear, get societies to change who they are. And what I've tried to communicate is you can't change us. You can kill some of us, but we will hunt you down and we will get you. We're gonna smoke you out. Isn't that what he's saying? We're gonna smoke you out, mofo. You can kill some... I don't like a president saying that. It doesn't sound good to me. No, I just don't... How about you, John? You can kill some of us, but you can't kill us all. I don't know. That doesn't bother me so much. I don't care.

55:13 You can kill some of us, but we will hunt you down and we will get you. And in the meantime, just as we did in Boston after the marathon bombing, we're going to go to a ballgame and do all the other things that make our life worthwhile. And you have nothing to offer. That's the message of resilience, that we don't panic, that we don't fear. We will hunt you down and we will get you. Yeah, okay, well there's fighting words there from the president. Hunt you down, we'll get you. Now, maybe I missed it? Maybe, I don't know how this happened, but we got news about the war on the caliphate, about ISIL, ISIS, Daesh, Khorasan group, name it. What is our strategy for defeating them, John? What is the strategy? We've heard it a million times.

CHAPTER 16 / 38 Discussion

Pentagon ISIS Campaign, Phase One Completion, Military Strategy

The Pentagon announced the completion of "Phase One" in the military campaign against ISIS, which focused on degrading the group's conventional military capabilities. The campaign is now entering "Phase Two," aimed at dismantling the organization's infrastructure. Officials claim ISIS can no longer move freely in large convoys as they did during the fall of Mosul.

pentagon· isis· mosul· iraq· syria

56:10 smoke them out, kill them, hang them. It's the double D's man. It's the double D's. It's the double D's. Degrade and ultimately destroy. Oh, it's degrade and destroy. Yeah. Operations against... I'm sorry, this is the Pentagon spokeshole who's over there in the sand. Operations against ISIL began on 8 August in 2014. In the 20 months since then, We have achieved much. A year and a half ago we saw images of ISIL convoys moving freely into Mosul and throughout Iraq. Those days are gone. Our enemy has been weakened and we are now working to fracture him. Phase one was to degrade the enemy. We focused on stopping ISIL from advancing and degrading their military capabilities, both in Iraq and in Syria.

56:58 This was an effort to eliminate ISIL's ability to operate really as a conventional force. Phase one of the military campaign is complete. What? Phase one's complete? Come on, everybody! ISIS! Woo! We're degrading them, baby! Woo! How come that's not the top of the news? What? Are you... Phase one! Phase one! Phase one! We have gotten them! It should have been the top of the news instead of the Russians skimming past the destroyer out in the middle of nowhere. Mission accomplished! Well... Mission accomplished! Part one of the mission. Well, but still, if I were the president... No, what if you're the editor of CBS?

57:47 I'm not running this story very very little risk of that ever happening But if you know if the mission is degrade and defeat Isis ISIL dash is and you get this clip from C-SPAN onion from C-SPAN Really some C-SPAN. You know how the guys are sitting there in the tent, and he does the Good catch. I'd give you a doubt Yeah, I'll give you a borderline clip of the day, because that's such a... because... Hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on. Don't step on my borderline. Yes? Did you play it? I just did. Oh. Yeah. I guess I stepped on it. You did. Uh... Because I never heard this. No, of course not. I think this guy's off script. No, he's... no, when you see him, he is literally reading from the script. He holds the papers up too high and they show up in the bottom of the screen.

58:40 No, he's reading it. Somebody screwed up on the promotion then. Well, let's hear the last 15 seconds here. ...to operate... Let me see, just go back to the we got him thing. Hold on. Here we go. ...was to degrade the enemy. We focused on stopping ISIL from advancing and degrading their military capabilities, both in Iraq and in Syria. This was an effort to eliminate ISIL's ability to operate as a conventional force. Phase one of the military campaign is complete and we are now in phase two. Yeah Which is to dismantle this enemy? Well, that was not what we were told that we were told destroyed but he's saying dismantle So wait for dismantle isn't the grade and dismantle kind of the same thing. No. No, I looked this up degrade This really if you look at the definite well, hold on a second book of knowledge definition of degrade

59:40 Degrade has a few uses as a verb. One, reduce the level of land as by erosion. Two, reduce in worth or character, usually verbally. Three, lower the grade of something, reduce its worth. Yeah, so that's, it's really is not, it's just a, like a scrape really, the way I hear the definition. Well, it says reduce amount of land. I think that's interesting. And I like the, you know, by talking smack about them. That's also degrading. Throw in shade. Yeah, that's what that's what the book of knowledge told us. Yeah. Yeah now that Simultaneously while this great stuff is going down. We have a hearing on the hill in the Senate

CHAPTER 17 / 38 Discussion

Bono Senate Testimony, Comedy as Counter-Terrorism, Dadaism

U2 frontman Bono testified before a Senate subcommittee, suggesting that the U.S. should deploy comedians like Amy Schumer and Chris Rock to combat ISIS. He argued that mocking the "vanity" of extremist groups is more effective than violence, citing how the Nazis feared Dadaists and Surrealists. The testimony included a philosophical discussion on how materialism influences "machismo" in young men.

bono· u2· us senate· amy schumer· sacha baron cohen

1:00:22 about what are we going to do with violent extremism? Violent extremism. What are we going to do about it? Well, the first thing we need to do is we need to get some celebrities up here on the hill. Did you hear about who was visiting and talking to the Senate committee? I'm about to hear. Bono. Bono? Bono, of course, the man who understands terrorism so well. Violent extremism. And I don't know if Bono was High? I think Bono's getting a little long in the tooth. Yeah, I think he is. And people, a lot of people got turned off by him, by the tax avoidance. I'll be very careful. I do understand the difference people. You know, they do the Dutch Irish reach around, jerk you off, rusty trombone thing. So that's how they hide. You know, U2 has three buildings on the Kaisersgracht in Amsterdam, just for their royalty handling, because there's no taxes.

1:01:21 Anyway, so he is of course the guy to bring before the Senate so they can all cream their little jammies over Bono being there. And he had a very unique view on what we can do about ISIS, ISIL. So he's coming to the Senate and he's going to speak before the Senate as a consultant? As a witness. I think they're considered witnesses. Well, is he talking in front of a committee or before the Senate? In front of a committee. In front of a committee. Yes, the violent extremism. What committee was it you know the details? I have it somewhere. It's the Committee on Violent Extremism. Oh. Which is probably a subcommittee of the Homeland Security. All right, go. And it makes sense. You have Bono there. I mean, couldn't... I mean, that's the first guy I'd think of.

1:02:06 Well, I'm torn because I really, really don't like Bono. And I've met him, but I've had words with him. Then he doesn't like me. You've had words with Bono? Oh yeah. Yes, we've had words. He walked off an interview once with me. What did you say to him? I said, so why are you starting off your set with a cover song? Because I'd seen the set list. And he walked out. What? He said, screw you. And he walked out. There's got to be more to it than that. No, no. Was he on edge? No, Edge was not in the shot. You were supposed to be nice and not ask an actual question. Yeah. You can, it's on you. It's a good question. If you go to the guy, why are you starting off your set with a cover song? And then it's a question you can answer. And then Edge, I think here, ask me, ask me, Hey, Bono, Dvorak, why are you starting off your, your set with a cover song? Well, I think we can do a better job than the original.

1:03:06 You didn't do the accent. I couldn't get to it. Tried. Here it is, Rotterdam 1987 backstage. I'll put it in the show notes. Then, uh, and Edge is there and then Bono just looks at me and just walks out and Edge goes, oh I don't know, I think he was pissed off about something you said. He was offended. Yeah, anyway. Okay. Uh, so let's hit- How could he be offended by that? Cause he's a dick! Okay, he's a dick. Okay, we got- I'm sorry, I'm- Yeah, repeat after me. Bono's a dick. Can I add something to that which is a little bizarre just to be coming from from observing this culture and how elusive

1:03:47 maleness is. We forget how elusive maleness is in a world where materialism decides your machismo. If you've no access to... Why are you saying what the whole time? Why are you saying what? What is he saying? Materialism defines your machismo and he's stoned. That was the first thing I said. Is he high? Well, wait for it. Actually, I'm not against what he's saying here. He's saying when you have no stuff, which is why Americans are the dormant. The guys who struck the towers on 9-11, a lot of them had stuff. No, they had no stuff. They were sand bunnies.

1:04:26 No, no, no. They had plenty of stuff. But anyway, go on. Machismo. If you've no access... Yeah, please don't interrupt. Otherwise you won't get the full effect. ...is in a world where materialism decides your machismo. If you've no access to material things, you exaggerate your maleness. I think we have to think about young men and think about that. And it's funny, you're going to... What is he saying? Should we send, um, stuff over to them? Should we send stuff to ISIS? So they have plenty of stuff. They stole it from us. And it's funny, you're going to... Don't laugh. But I think comedy should be deployed. Because if you look at National Socialism and Daesh and ISIL, this is the same thing. We've seen this before. We've seen this before. They're very vain. They've got all the signs up there. Really, it's show business.

1:05:29 And the first people that Adolf Hitler threw out of Germany were the Dadaists and the Surrealists. It's like you speak violence, you speak their language, but you laugh at them when they're goose-stepping down the street and it takes away their power. So, I'm suggesting that the Senate send in Amy Schumer and Chris Rock and Sacha Baron Cohen. Thank you. All right. Clip of the day. Clip of the day. Too outrageous. You know what? I've long advocated sending Amy Schumer over to Rock. I think it's a good idea. I'm all for it.

1:06:18 Chris Rock Chris Rock for a rock and send Kevin Hart while you're at it and Adam Carolla There's a whole bunch of people we could send hilarious and Tim Ferriss can teach him how to make money send him over there, you know I Got that joke. Thank you Well with that I'd like to can I thank you or you want to say something I Well, there's a funny one aspect to that which I've always wondered about myself. Is that I think if you, the idea of making fun, the political correctness thing has made it so you can't do what he advocated. What he just did, yeah. Well he's Irish so you get to do shit. And, cause I've always thought that if you actually made just outrageous fun of the dummies who blow themselves up, you know the kids, you know somewhere in Wisconsin and he says I'm gonna go to Syria and become a suicide bomber, I mean that

CHAPTER 18 / 38 Discussion

Value for Value Model, Advertising Skepticism, Independent Media

The program reaffirms its commitment to the "value for value" funding model, rejecting traditional advertising to maintain editorial independence. An anecdote about a canceled Geraldo Rivera news project illustrates how advertisers can kill investigative reporting. The hosts argue that direct listener support is the only way to ensure honest deconstruction of media narratives.

value for value· advertising· geraldo rivera· independent media· podcasting

1:07:23 Should be ridiculed as that means you're really stupid right but political correctness has made it So you can't do that you might hurt the suicide bombers feelings I know I know I know Yeah, well, thank you for your curve. Well. I have to do the whole thank you for your courage and other people But I have to say thank you for your courage in in the morning to you John see where the C stands for Chateau Brion de Vorac. Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Curry, also in the morning, all the boots on the ground, feets in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. And in the morning to everybody in the chatroom, noagendastream.com, everyone helping out nicely today. Thank you, playing nice, no spam bots, good to see you. And thank you to Nick the Rat, one of our talented artists who brought us the artwork for episode 815, titled, that was Political Perp Walk.

1:08:18 And we used his art of Uncle Sam saying, use our tax havens, which was appropriate for that. Yeah, for that. There was a little debate over the art on that one. There was. And it's hard because we get so many submissions and so much is so good. Well, in that case, there was like three that were good. Yeah. NoahGenera-ArtGenerator.com is where you can find all the submissions where you can submit yourself. And as always, we really appreciate the work that all of our artists do. Whatever happened to Martin JJ was our question. I think I don't know yeah that we were wondering about that Maybe man overboard could be man overboard. I think Martin's still in the chat room though. Oh Okay

1:09:02 This program is based on our value for value model. We don't take advertising. There's no way we could be saying the things we'd be saying right now. I was talking to a journalist the other day who worked with Geraldo Rivera on they were going to do a new, like a 2020 type news show if anyone remembers that. Yeah, we don't have enough of those. Well, this is this is about seven or eight years ago. And she was talking to me, you know, how they had everything set up, they were good, they spent two million dollars on the studio, get everything going. And then when they started to do some, as she said, quote unquote, real reporting, then the advertisers pulled out and the show got canceled overnight. Overnight! Overnight! Yeah, of course! So to preempt that and to be completely free men of will and speech and thought,

CHAPTER 19 / 38 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, Kale and Kidney Stones, Australian Geography

During the donor thank-you segment, a producer shares a report from a urologist claiming that the "superfood" kale is contributing to a rise in kidney stones among millennials. This leads to a personal anecdote about a painful kidney stone experience in China. The segment also includes a guide to the correct pronunciation of Australian cities like Melbourne and Cairns.

kale· kidney stones· australia· melbourne· brisbane

1:09:48 We only survive thanks to the support of the program and its producers who are the people who listen. You do that with art, you do it with ideas, with combinations, with jingles, and with finances. We could not be more appreciative. And we'd like to thank the bigger donors as executive producers and associate executive producers at the beginning of each show. Here we go. Yes, and we want to start with Sir Snorkel. in Mango Hill, Australia, $3.59.97 with a long note of after falling way behind on the show over the last six months but still keeping my $5 a month subscription running I've recently started some regular long-distance driving and this show is the only thing that has been keeping me both awake

1:10:27 and sane on my regular late night shuffle back and forth. Nice. Which is really what the show, the target audience is really people who drive around a lot or exercise a lot. In radio we used to call that drive time. Drive time. And that's where all the money is made. Three hour drive time show. That's where all the money is made. And that's what most people have these days. Unfortunately, yes. I mean, I look out there at the... A combo. An hour and a half in, an hour and a half out, easily. In a lot of cases, at least an hour both ways. One way or the other. Recently I've been enjoying... he says, as always, the show's been outstanding and I've had to do a top-up donation. Recently I've been enjoying the... I don't know what I said. Recently I've been enjoying... I see what it is. Recently I've been enjoying the scam that is kale as the first salvo and hitting people in the mouth to great success.

1:11:18 I have a friend who is a recovery nurse who unknowingly propagated the formula at her work where a urologist she works with added this little jam comment. All the millennials who insist on guzzling kale are keeping me in business. Apparently kale is super food, is well known in urology circles to cause kidney stones. Holy crap! This is amazing! They're Tina's daughters in Arkansas. And there's kids who have kidney stones. Kids with kidney stones. It's the kale! I had a kidney stone. Oh man, that's horrible. It's horrible. It was like when I was about 60 is how long it took to get one. And I know what it was. It was from being dehydrated while in China. Because I came... It was right after... Of all the cool things you could have said, that really topped it. In fact, I'm writing it down. Dehydrated in China.

1:12:17 And the kidney stone, it was interesting because it did pass. It took about four hours. Oh, were you sick as a dog? Well, I luckily for some reason, I woke up at three in the morning with this stabbing pain in my kidney. Yeah. And it was like... Were you in a bathtub with ice and was there writing on the mirror with lipstick? There was writing, you don't have a kidney. You got 10 minutes to live. So I I recognized it as a kidney stone for some reason, I'm not sure how, and I could almost feel it, although it was psychological, I could feel it moving. But it was about four hours of pain and then it went away for good. And I guess I passed the stone, which is the way you want to do it as opposed to having to have an operation. I had an employee once. It was a dehydration thing, which is how you get these things. I had an employee once in New York and he passed out in a pile of his own puke while this thing was, you know, it was horrible.

1:13:10 I can see that. I can see where you'd... It wasn't a pleasant experience, let's put it that way. No, no. And if kale... If kale is causing it... Because if you have a kidney stone and you're less than 50 or 60 years old... You've got to lay off the kale is what you've got to do. You've got to lay off something. There's something wrong with your diet. Seriously. Thanks again for you, I mean I figure you drink enough wine, I think maybe it's because I wasn't drinking enough wine as usual, because in China you drink a lot of tea. Thanks again for you and Adam and all the hard work you put in, hopefully the donation will put some value back into your pockets for the value you bring me. Could I please ask for Dr. Kiki, it was worth it and a large heaping of general karma for everything. It can do some help.

1:13:53 right now, work, family and love life as my world is about to be tipped upside down completely. We won't ask why. And then he has some, at the end, just no reason. Well, I like this. I think we should do this. I'm just going to quiz you. These are the four, these are four Australian place names. And with the pronunciation, I will give you my pronunciation and here you go. So Melbourne, Which he says we should pronounce Mel-Bun. Mel-Bun. Brisbane. I did it last show we had a Mel-Bun guy. He says you got this one right last week, I'll give you that. Brisbane.

1:14:34 Well, Brisbane is the way you're supposed to pronounce that. Yeah, Geelong. We have a little town, I should mention this, we have a little town here in California which I can see from here called Brisbane and Brisbane is where the airport is. I know and we also have Houston Street in New York. I mean, yeah. And there's Houston Street in New York and yes. Okay, Geelong. I don't remember ever seeing this word which is pronounced Geelong. Geelong, yes. Cairns. He says it's pronounced cans. Cans, yeah. And Queensland. Queensland! It was worth it. I don't fun-blend this. You've got karma. Alrighty. Onward. Alright. Oh, you're cut. Get back to the mic, boy. You're cutting out. I'm sorry. I'm just mumbling to myself. Uh, Circaitown in Milton, New Jersey.

1:15:36 He'll be the second executive producer for show A16. This was probably be my last executive producer donation in a while as I am in the process of starting my own business. As such, I felt it necessary to complete my progress toward becoming a baronet while I could still afford to do so. The show continues to be my twice weekly dose of much needed sanity and I have a feeling this might be your best year ever. I think it is so far. Could you please provide some love, light, and karma for all the producers out there currently taking their dose of anti-slave medication from the guardians of reality?

1:16:14 Also, could you play that I'll be watching you GB lead leadership mashup again at the end of the show I find it incredibly entertaining and to serve it as a reminder as to what makes this the one and only best podcast in the universe I incredibly talented and creative producers who support this show in whatever way they can that I think he's talking about the one that PewDiePie made for us I think maybe I'll play that again. It's a lot of people like that and I even shortened it up a bit, but it was real It's really good. It's a thank you for your courage your k-town Baroness and he goes Woohoo, karma for ya! You've got karma. With love and light. Love and light. Eric Olson in Water Valley, Mississippi. M-I-S-S-I-S-S-I-P-P-I $250. He'll be Associate Executive Producer for Show 816. Since John called me sir a few shows ago when I donated for his birthday and mine, I figured I'd better finish off my knighthood. Put him, I don't notice that he's on the list. Let me see. Put him on the list. It's, who do we, this is from Eric. Eric Olson. Eric Olson, his son.

CHAPTER 20 / 38 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Job Karma, Peerage Updates

New knights and baronets are inducted into the No Agenda peerage following significant financial contributions. Listeners request "job karma" for those facing economic downturns, particularly in the Canadian oil sector. The segment concludes with a donation from Amsterdam and a discussion of the city's "I Amsterdam" branding.

knighthood· peerage· karma· amsterdam· irs

1:15:36 He'll be the second executive producer for show A16. This was probably be my last executive producer donation in a while as I am in the process of starting my own business. As such, I felt it necessary to complete my progress toward becoming a baronet while I could still afford to do so. The show continues to be my twice weekly dose of much needed sanity and I have a feeling this might be your best year ever. I think it is so far. Could you please provide some love, light, and karma for all the producers out there currently taking their dose of anti-slave medication from the guardians of reality?

1:16:14 Also, could you play that I'll be watching you GB lead leadership mashup again at the end of the show I find it incredibly entertaining and to serve it as a reminder as to what makes this the one and only best podcast in the universe I incredibly talented and creative producers who support this show in whatever way they can that I think he's talking about the one that PewDiePie made for us I think maybe I'll play that again. It's a lot of people like that and I even shortened it up a bit, but it was real It's really good. It's a thank you for your courage your k-town Baroness and he goes Woohoo, karma for ya! You've got karma. With love and light. Love and light. Eric Olson in Water Valley, Mississippi. M-I-S-S-I-S-S-I-P-P-I $250. He'll be Associate Executive Producer for Show 816. Since John called me sir a few shows ago when I donated for his birthday and mine, I figured I'd better finish off my knighthood. Put him, I don't notice that he's on the list. Let me see. Put him on the list. It's, who do we, this is from Eric. Eric Olson. Eric Olson, his son.

1:17:20 Uh, no he's not. His son is... what's his son's name? Where's he one that's got to do with his son? He says it was happy birthday to my son. Oh, Liam Olsen. You got that on the list? No. Liam Olsen who turns six on Friday. That means tomorrow. Yes. So is he on the list? Put him on the list. He is now. Yep. Uh, anyway, so they figured out he'd finish off his knighthood as his first executive producer level donation. All the ones who wish a happy birthday to his son. Okay. Barislav Marinov. Yeah, yeah. Sir. To you. 234 56 in Trabuco, Canon, California. Please send some job karma. I'm still waiting on the written job offer. I was promised so long ago. Please keep up the good work. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Karma.

1:18:12 Uh, finally, last, no, now we got more. Brian Mancuso in Terryville, Connecticut 23456. Beresloff was also 23456, so we got two of those. This donation is way overdue for that, I'd like to apologize. That said, I can be knighted now. So Sir Don Crap can stop lording his status over me. You can bump rings. I know yeah, I know I had a vision. I'd hands-forth like to be known as sir shyster the destroyer of codes You got it now I believe that the destroyer of cones is someone who drives along on the road and they see those cars I've done that but you hit it so they could fly you don't want to run over him no that they get under your carriage and they make a mess yeah

1:19:04 But you bump them and then they go flying. It's hilarious. Yes, hilarious. Anyway, he also says bring back the hookers and blow. Oh, wait, when did they leave? Yeah, I didn't see that they left. I don't see any loss of hookers and blow around here. Onward Anonymous. Did you give him his? Yeah. Anonymous 2222. And then he says one simple note, taxation is theft. Fuck the IRS. That's what he said. I'm going to give him some... I didn't say it. Call it tax karma for him. You've got karma. Yeah. Jonathan Rowley in Edmonton, Alberta, 222.22. Another one. In the morning, John and Adam, can I get a hey citizen jobs, jobs karma for everyone affected by the downturn? Yeah, we can do that.

1:19:50 Here we go. Hey, citizens. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. And finally on the list is I Amsterdam and 200 bucks from Amsterdam, Netherlands. Can I keep it up? He says hugs or she hugs. I Amsterdam. What is this? Well, that's the that's the big logo that they put in Amsterdam. And that's the city logo. Now it's I Amsterdam with a heart. So where's the heart go? Well if you just search it for it on the web the heart I think goes Right where the a is for the eye Could be I don't know what happened between I and Amsterdam if you just say I amsterdam and you look at images You'll see it immediately. I'm gonna do it now. I'm doing it now. What is this? Okay, it's I heart am in different light color sterdam in black

CHAPTER 21 / 38 Discussion

Amsterdam Houseboat Trip, Paris Anniversary, Travel Planning

A host describes plans for an upcoming trip to Europe, including staying on a houseboat in Amsterdam during the King's Day celebrations. The itinerary includes a visit to Paris for a wedding anniversary, prompting a discussion of high-end French restaurant recommendations. The trip will result in a special produced episode to cover the hosts' absence.

amsterdam· kings day· paris· airbnb· travel

1:20:48 I heard they had a meeting. Boy, they had a meeting. He's in that meeting and had a meeting him up. So check this out. So Tina and I are going to Europe for two weeks. The big deal because she doesn't get a lot of time off at her job. So we're going to Amsterdam and as it turns out, we leave I think on the 25th. So we arrive on the 26th. Okay, paparazzi take note. That is the the evening of Kings Day, which is on the 27th. Oh, Kings Day. Which is, of course, the Kings Day is the new Queens Day. That's a great celebration. She's going to love that. Yes. Now here's the interesting thing. I thought it was kind of busy. You know, I was looking for Airbnbs and I'm like, oh, it's busy. I'm not getting anything good. And I wound up, and I booked this before I knew about Kings Day, we're going to stay in a houseboat on the canal.

1:21:47 Holy crap, which should be insane during Kings day. Yeah, that would be the best because all the boats would be going right by you Yeah, yeah, and I'm gonna do paparazzi take note John what are you talking about? Are we gonna make money on this deal or what? Don't give it away to the competition I'm gonna take pictures you send in and run away. I've tried to make money off of this and I've never been able to do it. You're not doing it right. I've never been contacted by these jokers. I have photos. You have tons of photos. I have revealing photos that people, they would love to see there in Holland. Now, then after the show after that, which will be I think on the 31st, then on May 1st. Does the houseboat have internet? Yes, it does.

1:22:32 Yes, it has internet. Yeah. And there's a... and the deck, it's a long, pretty long ship. The deck, one half is open so you can sit on the deck and the other half contains the kitchen and the dining room and it's on top with glass all around so I can see all around. Can you cast off and go into that celebration? I don't know if... well, there's some thinking. I don't know if it has an engine in it. I don't know. Not often. They don't always have engines anymore. It's taken out. So that's gonna be fun. And then we're gonna go to Paris. Now here's the thing though, I just didn't want to throw it out. Thursday the 5th, you and I discussed this but we need to bring it up now. I'd like to take that day off. It is our one year anniversary. And we're gonna be in Paris. May? Of May, yes. May 5th? Yes.

1:23:28 Kind of late to the game making this no we talked about it. Yeah, but I didn't pay any attention Yeah, that would be correct guy who did that great show he says a second shows a second one I have to look at it. We need something for sure yeah at this point We could also just do a two hours of songs that might be fun to one of these days I don't think we got to our oh we have two hours easily easily easily so Easily. Yeah, we can put together two hours, but I'd rather I like to produce a couple. Yeah, well, we like your interview shows. People really like that. Yeah, well, I didn't. I don't have anybody like maybe you get a couple interviews and maybe we can do a combination. I don't know. We'll have something that's more than a little entertaining. Yeah, for sure. So it shows that we do when we have to take a day off or outstanding products. They always are because we don't have to do anything. People make them for us as great.

1:24:29 Well, that's good too. That's a plus. Well, we'll definitely look at, we'll have a listen to that other comedy show, but I know it wasn't as long. But yeah, we will entertain for sure. And I appreciate it. I mean, it's just nice. You know, you said, hey, first anniversary, you said this to me privately, you should get her some flowers. Second anniversary, don't get her anything. She'll think you're a pussy. I think that's what you said. I think this is what I said. So instead of flowers, a nice dinner in Paris. I mean, does it get any better than that? You got my note. I did. Thank you so much. And I, so John loves to do this. If you say, hey, a lot of listeners ask me for this kind of information and I'm sure you give it to them.

1:25:19 I always do. I always send them, they would go here. Yeah. So I said, John, I'm going to be in Paris with the woman I love. You know, this is great. I'm going to be the first time ever. And he sends me this, I mean, it must be 10,000 words. Just all the restaurants where to go to, who to ask for, what to do, book this one now. I mean, great. Love it. Love it. Thank you. Well, it also keeps me a, Keeps me up to date on what's happening in this modern French thing that's going on in Paris right? Yes. Yes, we're going to be your your guinea pigs your canaries in the coal mine Yes, you will go and hopefully at least go to a couple of the places. I highly recommend it Yeah, and tell me we're gonna have a full report of course of course of course

CHAPTER 22 / 38 Discussion

Trump Family CNN Town Hall, Ted Cruz Family, Election Strategy

CNN hosted back-to-back town halls featuring the families of Republican candidates Donald Trump and Ted Cruz. The Trump family appearance is compared to the "Von Trapp" family, with Ivanka Trump emerging as a polished and dominant figure. Trump used the platform to reiterate his "self-funder" status and criticize the "stacked" delegate system in Colorado.

donald trump· melania trump· ivanka trump· ted cruz· cnn

1:26:03 So thank you everybody, thanks to our executive and associate executive producers. Nice list today, really appreciate it, it's what keeps the show going. And which is why we're always here. Always trying to bring you the deconstruction that we know how to do best and we will have another show coming up on this Sunday. Devorak.org slash N-A. And wherever you are, Amsterdam, Paris, doesn't matter, be out there, formula! Our formula is this, we go out, we hit people in the mouth. Hey, citizens. Shut up, slave! Shut up, slave! Let's see. I, um... There were two CNN events in the past couple of days which were interesting as they were sit-downs with Republican presidential candidates and their families.

1:27:11 Last night was Ted Cruz with wife Heidi and her two kids. Did you catch any of this? by No, I mean I watched a little bit of it and I figured this is not something I want it was well I believe there was a Warriors game where they set the all-time record for most wins And yeah, I decided to watch that although I think it would I think I think it was a it was very interesting that CNN did this It was it was a good setting Pooper did both interviews. Now, I didn't get any clips from last night. It was so creepy. Both the girls, the cruise girls, were dressed in identical yellow dresses. Did you ever see that clip? It's just a visual. Yeah, where the kid looks like she wants to puke because he's trying to kiss her.

1:28:01 Yeah, yeah, and the kids go away. Yeah, and she's she wouldn't even didn't want to be touched by him No, no, and then and that was a very disturbing clip And if you see it now the response from the mainstream media is oh, they were so adorable. They stole the show No, they were freaking creepy one wouldn't say anything and the other one said don't embarrass us by not saying anything I mean it was creepy. Oh Oh, I missed that. I'm sorry. I didn't have time for clips because I pulled apart the Trump family and it struck me. When you look at them on stage, handsome family, when you look at them on stage, it's like the Von Trapps. It's like the sound of music. It is the Von Trumps. You got the captain, you've got Maria, Melania, you got the kids, Heinz and Heinrich and Dieter and whatever.

1:28:56 Completely like the Von Trumps. The Von Traps, sorry. But Trump, he played this extremely well. I'm sure it had no ratings, but he played it extremely well. And since probably you didn't see it, and most other people didn't see it, I'm gonna play a few clips, because there is some substance here and it's nice to hear that once in a while. And he started off and he'll finish up this way as well. This is again his message and he knows how to pump it now about money in politics. There were some people that were fantastic. A lot of time, he had a lot of organization going out, reaching out to people who wanted to be delegates to run in the process. I mean, it was a whole electoral process to get delegates. But Anderson, we had delegates there. We had a lot of delegates and they were not heard.

1:29:37 because the Republican Party out there was 100% probably controlled by the RNC, which maybe doesn't like this happening because I'm a self-funder, I'm putting up my own money. They don't like when I put up my own money because it means they don't have any control of me because I'm working for the people. I'm doing for the people. And you know, when you talk about winning, I've won most of it. There you go. So his spending his own money. Now he's even kind to Bernie Sanders, again drawing a line between the outliers and the establishment. I just want to read you what Cory Gardner, who's a Republican senator from Colorado, said because he's really annoyed at what you've been saying. He said that essentially you're a member of the establishment.

1:30:17 And then you're insulting these delegates who ran, who are just regular people. I'm insulting the system. The system is not a good system. He says, how on earth are you going to defeat ISIS if you can't figure out the Colorado GOP convention? Oh, we can figure it out, but it's stacked against us. I mean, you can have people that are totally against you. How come my people went there, delegates, great delegates, they're all over the internet now burning up their Republican card. How come my people went there and they wouldn't put them against you? Republican Party in Colorado wanted Cruz or maybe they wanted somebody other than Trump. I don't think anybody really wants Cruz. Why would they want him? There's no reason to want him. But the Republican Party wanted somebody other than Trump.

1:30:54 And you know the funny thing, I am the only one that's gonna beat Hillary Clinton, assuming she runs, assuming she gets out of her problem, which she probably will because that's a system that's bad too. I'll give you another example though, I'm no fan of Bernie Sanders, okay? I'm no fan at all, to me he's, forget it. But every time I turn on, he's winning, he's winning. Every week after week, he wins, he wins, he wins, he wins. And then I watch you and I watch all of the pundits, they say, but he can't win. You know why? It's stacked against him. It really is. It's stacked against him. In his case, it's superdelegates. In my case, it's the obvious. There you go. Yeah, got a little night got a little ISO from that. He wins. He wins. He wins. He wins. I like that. Nice. Yeah. That's one that could be turned into a lot of songs. So of course, now we need to talk to the family about husband, daddy, etc, etc. I noticed one thing then, which if anyone has, you know, a hunkering to go watch this, I see bad vibes between Melania and Ivanka.

CHAPTER 23 / 38 Discussion

Ivanka Trump vs Melania, Family Dynamics, Campaign Image

Observers note a perceived tension between Melania Trump and Ivanka Trump during their televised appearance, suggesting a rivalry for the "Queen Bee" role. The discussion touches on Melania's Slovenian background and Ivanka's conversion to Judaism. Ivanka is characterized as a "slow talker" who dominates the family's speaking time, while Melania encourages Donald to use "better language."

ivanka trump· melania trump· tiffany trump· slovenia· conversion

1:31:57 And the way the chairs were positioned, so Trump was closest to Pooper on the right, kind of a semi-circle, and then next to him, but not really next to him was Melania, then twice that really not next to him space was the kids. I think there's a couple of dynamics here. I think that's one of them, but I also think the other sister, what's her name, Kim? Yeah, the Tiffany. Tiffany, who's I think the daughter of Marla Maples. She is like the odd man out in most of this. Yes, and she appears to be the odd man. She's very pleasant She tries to be pleasant. She's not as good-looking Ivanka is the beauty. Oh my god. That woman is it's like a freak of nature She's a freak of nature beauty and of course her mom was gorgeous, too And she I think she has like the really you know the big kind of

1:32:52 Her teeth are clearly beautifully done, but they're a little bit thicker than her mouth would allow for, and therefore she has this incredibly sexy way her mouth opens and shuts when she's talking. Yeah, probably all veneers. Yeah, veneers. But whatever the case, and I said that purposefully... She stands out as the queen bee of the kids. And I think that's what rankles the wife. I think that part of that is language barrier related. She's frustrated that she can't speak as eloquently as Ivanka. Ivanka also talks a little too long each time, but she has the talking stick. She's like, okay, shut up, we get it.

1:33:35 But at one point Ivanka was talking and I saw Melania looking in another direction. Like looking straight ahead. Yeah, very, very, very poor form. Then just, I don't know, I just, I got a bad vibe between those two. It makes sense. It does. But here we go. So here's Ivanka talking about daddy. We are back with Donald Trump and joining us is his wife Melania, son's Donald Jr. His daughter Kai has just jumped on the stage as well. She's eight years old. Eric is with us, daughter Tiffany and Ivanka. Welcome. It's great to have the whole family together like this. Thanks so much. Ivanka, I gotta start off with you. Congratulations on your baby. How's everything going? Thank you. Everything's going incredibly well. So Theodore is two weeks old as of- I saw this woman. She had a baby two weeks ago?

1:34:27 hit me over the head with a frying pan. Man, where did it go? It's just amazing. Are you sleeping through the night? Is he? No, not even close. Not even close. But it's a blessing. So we're very happy. Congratulations. That's the most important thing. I'm curious when your dad, your husband, I mean, how did the conversation come up? Did he, was there a family meeting like on the Brady Bunch or, I mean, how did, did he call each of you individually and say, you know, I'm gonna do this this time? And what did you think? Well, I think it's such a personal decision that ultimately it was one he had to arrive to on his own. And obviously as we've all seen over the last several months, it's a vicious industry politics, much more so than real estate or anything we've ever experienced. But we were just incredibly excited for him.

1:35:20 We know what he's capable of. We've stood by his side for the last decade in my case, a little bit longer in Don's case, and watched him do these deals at the Trump Organization. And we know what he could bring to the country. So we're just happy to support him. Yeah, very nice. Couldn't be better rehearsed. Oh, it's beautiful. It's just this was fantastic. You know, rehearsed, not as rehearsed as the cruises. I'll tell you that. Not as rehearsed as the cruises. Well, the cruises probably need it more. Now, here was a planted question, which was a genius question and the perfect one for this setting. Good evening, Mr. Trump. I was wondering, do you talk to your wife and children the same way that you speak at the GOP debates?

1:36:01 I think I'm much nicer to them. I will say, you know, you talk about the debates. I never knew about debating. My whole life has been sort of a debate, but the politicians, they debate every night and I didn't know how that was going to really, really going to work out. And the debates, I've loved the debates. I've really had fun with them. I think I've done well with them. I guess I wouldn't be. I've been at the center stage every single debate and I've really enjoyed it. But I will tell you, I speak to my wife and children much, much differently. But it has been an interesting process. They're always saying, be nicer on the debates. I said, wait a minute, they're coming at me from all these different angles. How can I be nice? But Melania in particular would say, be nicer.

1:36:45 Be nicer in the debates. I said I can't do that. I have to win first, but we'll be nice. But we've had a lot of fun. What do you say to him? Because I think I saw Mr. Trump, you saying on the campaign trail that both Melania and also Ivanka were telling you to be more presidential. What would you like him, how would you like him to be different? to use nice language. Better language? Better language. Not all the time. You were upset when... Sometimes I agree with it. Somebody yelled out something at one of his rallies. Correct, and she repeated. You were upset with that. Yes, and I was thinking just don't repeat it because next day the press or what they will talk it's about the word, an appropriate word, and that was correct. I really believe she is a really, really nice gal, this Melania.

1:37:31 I think she's probably really a good woman, don't you? Yeah, I have never thought anything other. Where's she from again? Czechoslovakia or Poland or you she's somewhere in the in the eastern bloc, but maybe she Let's look it up. That's the Book of Knowledge Wikipedia Melania Trump Melania Trump is a Slovene American Jewelry Slovenia Slovenia, okay, hey, but we're not like stop. Okay a lot of pretty women there Yes, yes, maybe are they Catholic in Slovenia? I think they're Orthodox Orthodox Maybe maybe this is her problem with with Ivanka became Jewish Ivanka became Jewish. Yeah, she converted to Judaism to marry her Goldman Sachs banker friend boy and

1:38:26 Okay, onward. Ivanka, what have you said to him about being presidential? I think one of the interesting things about this process is it's very easy to have an opinion on things, but when you're not in the arena, it's a different ballgame. So I've definitely said things of that kind to him, but I also then watch these debates and it's a hard thing to observe because I see them, it's like a cage match. They're jumping on him and they're hitting him from the left, hitting him from the right. Everyone's attacking him because he's been the front runner for so long. It's, uh, it's, it's, he's the man to take down. So while I, uh, I do sometimes tell him to, to withhold some of that sort of fire. I see how she's talking too much. This is where Melania starts looking away. Uh, not yet. She's all, but Ivanka, she might be the family bore. Bore? Bore. You know, this is someone who just yaks all the time.

1:39:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's when you know the eye roller type. Yeah. Yeah, it's fine you see her because she's so gorgeous and you see her yacking away here. But if can you imagine if this is the way she is all the time? She's just yacky, yacky, yacky. You know that there's a lot of girls and a lot of people have families with the one girl who just talks all the time. This is the one. She's so but she's so pretty I can just keep looking at her We're gonna keep talking we'll just let her drone over us go again go ahead what were you saying? John was what I was saying. Yeah, yeah, this process I don't think you can be particularly I can't even listen to her anymore. It's done. She's too much and it's a nice voice to it's not like she's beautiful screechy voice beautifully. She looks pretty does drone. It's a lot Just and too long too long. Oh Tucker. She's the film girl of the Trumps. That's talking too long to too long. Oh talker. No Okay

1:40:22 Which is a different type of yak. Most of them are fast talkers. She's not a fast talker, she's a slow talker. Which must really get on your nerves after a while and that's what's going on. Couple more quickies here. Of course, a question came up about Mr. Trump's attitude towards women. Because as you know he's horrible towards women says horrible things hates women. Let's listen to Melania's take I just truly feel that my father is the best father the best. I'm sorry That's a I guess tail end of Ivanka husband that he could be truly He treats everyone equally so if you're a woman and he attacks they attack him he will attack back no matter who you are we all human and he treats them

CHAPTER 24 / 38 Discussion

Trump Social Media Strategy, Twitter Influence, Media Breaking News

Donald Trump explains how his massive social media following on Twitter and Facebook allows him to bypass traditional media and solve PR crises instantly. He recounts an instance where a single tweet "broke into" a CNN broadcast, effectively neutralizing a negative narrative. Trump views social media as a modern asset that provides him with direct access to millions of voters.

donald trump· twitter· facebook· cnn· social media

1:41:06 uh... equal as man so i think that's very important he doesn't make a difference and he encouraged everybody be a man or a woman i believe that to be true i believe that to be true too i also think it probably applies to uh... his racism or non-existent racism of course it's just one of these guys i know this type of guy and he just assumed punch out a woman too by the way sure if she deserved it But she didn't clean the kitchen right and punch her in the face. Where's my dinner? Now here's Trump talking about the change in the political process and of course he is the one who has most effectively made use of social media by really using it the way people who are not in politics use it by just you know being

1:42:01 You know, very honest. Running too much and constantly commenting. Yeah, there you go. You know, it's interesting. I started off a number of years ago and I now see that over the weekend I picked up like almost 100,000 people and I have 7.5, 7.6 million people there. I have almost 7.5 million people on Facebook. I have a million and a half on Instagram. You know, I have millions millions and it's really an asset. I really enjoy doing it but it's really an asset. You see what's going on and there is some genius there. I mean you will get, you will read some of the stuff, there is genius there. You have to find the right genius. But it is a powerful thing.

1:42:40 As president though, no I wouldn't be doing it. Or I would do it very little. It's different. But right now if I'm fighting one of my opponents I can tweet out things and I can put my feelings and I had it in CNN. I mean it was one instance where I was at a town hall and somebody got up and a pretty negative statement about the president. You probably remember very negative that that was, uh, was the guy said the president's a Muslim, I think that was the, but we forgot, I'd forgotten about that scandal. It was very early on. I found out who this guy was. I don't know. Was he a setup or what? I think you know what I'm talking about. And he made a pretty negative statement about the president and they said I didn't defend him and it was a big deal. It was going on. And I remember I tweeted

1:43:19 One line and then another line and I put it out and it broke into CNN. They broke into this major broadcast. Donald Trump breaking news was like, I'm sitting there. I just did this and it totally solved the problem and it was good. So it doesn't all work badly, but it is a modern method of communication. I can just imagine that. Brother, everyone's yelling about you on CNN and then you tweet something and then three seconds later it's like, hey, breaking news. You're sitting there in your underwear, scratching your nuts. I can imagine that's pretty cool. Thanks for the image. Sorry. I'm almost done. I hope you don't mind. It was nice to hear some actual words. AdamMcCurry.com for those Trump haters out there. Exactly. Adam as a stooge. Spot the stooge. One of the big things about the Trump, the Von Trumps, I think we should just call them that, the Von Trumps. Hi man.

CHAPTER 25 / 38 Discussion

Trump Family Sobriety, Fred Trump, Addiction History

Donald Trump discusses his lifelong abstinence from alcohol, cigarettes, and drugs, citing the tragic death of his older brother Fred due to alcoholism. He explains that he instilled these strict rules in his children from a young age. The segment also touches on the psychological profile of high-powered executives and the role of therapy in Trump's self-awareness.

donald trump· fred trump· alcoholism· addiction· sobriety

1:44:15 that none of them drink or smoke or have ever done drugs. Or at least that's what they say. I wonder about Tiffany not doing drugs, but okay. And I don't really have many clips of Tiffany, but she's very loved in the family, very accepted, very inclusionary. Apparently Melania has had several lunches or dinners with her boyfriend, who she's going to get married to. So there's some tightness there. It seems like that's pretty good. But here, there's a little kicker at the end of this. about alcohol and drugs and smoking in the Trump family. in your life. Another great set up question by the way. Fantastic. The question is how did you, you know we've seen so many, you know the children of so many wealthy people who have you know they've ended up being a mess.

1:45:13 How did you instill with your kids, how did you protect them, how did you instill a sense of personal responsibility with them and what advice would you give for parents whose children may be struggling with addiction? Well it's such an important question and a great question. I had a brother who was a fantastic guy, I talked about this to Anderson once. because you had some difficulty. See how beautiful this is? Like you bring in pooper. Yeah, like everybody has someone who died. It's just well structured. It's good. It's well done. Very similar nature. And my brother was this phenomenally handsome guy. Great guy. Just great in every way. The best personality. Everything. But he started drinking and it became a real

1:45:53 problem for him and he used to tell me, he was quite a bit older, he used to tell me don't ever drink and it's a don't smoke and in those days it wasn't the drug thing it was really the alcohol thing much more so today you have to add the word drug and he would really you know he knew he had a problem and he was one of my truly great teachers my father and my brother I say that all the time my brother because of this and other things but he said don't ever drink don't ever drink and I've never had a drink I mean I've never had a glass of alcohol And yet I own the largest winery in the East Coast. It's a crazy thing, but that's okay. But my brother is just was so- I think, you know why he doesn't drink? I know why he doesn't drink. Okay. He's a Muslim. So instrumental in probably shaping my life because I just don't know what the outcome would have been. And when my children were growing up, even when they didn't even know what drinking was, I'd say no alcohol, no cigarettes, and no drugs. And I'd always say it. I used to add cigarettes because you know, I have friends that just can't kick it.

1:46:52 But I'd say no alcohol, no drugs, no cigarettes. And you know, I think it had an impact. And there are so many times where their children have this problem. And it's a tough world out there. It starts to start off. But when you have that as an additional problem, the drugs or the alcohol, it's awfully tough to. really do it. So I just tell the parents if you can keep your children away from the drugs and the alcohol and it's gonna make their life so much easier and you know you don't have that longing. I don't have any longing because I never drank so I don't have a longing for drinking or for drugs or any of that stuff. And I have other problems and we won't talk about them okay but the drugs and the alcohol so important that your children just stay away from.

1:47:32 What other problems could he have that he doesn't want to talk about? That's interesting. Yeah, and of course Anderson immediately said, what other problems are we not going to talk about? Well, no, he didn't actually say that, but he didn't say anything. No, of course not. But I'm like, well, what could that be? It must be said. Talk about opening a huge doorway and then you see this typical modern journalist. You just drop it because he says he wasn't going to talk about it anyway. So you could bring it up. Here's the deal. You have to at least bring it up. So you should as a journalist, as a guy doing interviews, you

1:48:08 You have to be aware of what somebody's saying. Very, I mean, that's why Larry King was always so good. Yeah, because he would listen. He would listen. So you listen, you hear the opportunity. You have to once in a while, this is like, like the stories I tell about using certain words just to indicate you're aware of something. You have to at least ask the question and then drop it to show that you're listening. Yeah. Well, don't drop it in advance knowing he's not going to answer. He's not going to answer. Keep him on his toes. Exactly. But what Trump did here, what I hear, is a guy who has been or is in therapy and is understanding of his issues. You don't say that stuff unless you've done some work, my feeling. I agree 100% and here's one of the things I think happened here.

1:48:57 as well he was extolling the virtues of nonce drinking non-smoking and non-drug use. He was screwing up. And by the way if the kids are all that way I don't know how he managed to do it in his situation because he's a busy guy he doesn't get there he does not have family he's not spending all his time with the family that I know of he's floating around in his jet so I mean that was astonishing that the kids are I think that Ivanka's got something to do with it too she looks like a Oh, maybe he's into domination, being dominated, which is not an issue as far as I'm concerned, but it's a problem as he categorized it. Maybe. Well, it's not an unusual thing for high-powered executives to be. In fact, there's a huge scandal going on now that I'm running through London. When I go to Twitter and I hit the, you know, they show me all the front pages of all these newspapers. There's a huge dominatrix scandal going on in London right now.

1:49:53 with one of the MPs. Oh, anybody I know? No, it's just one of the lesser guys. But it's like, every front page of all the screwball newspapers, and there's lots of them in England, has this picture of the dominatrix. That's like billions? Have you watched that show yet, Billions? I've already mentioned that I tried watching the show. I thought the gratuitous thing at the beginning was lame. Yeah, it's important later on though. Well, it might be, but I thought it was lame and if it's later on and it's a little for... it's a lame and... if it's lame and foreboding, it's just offensive. I found it to be

1:50:34 Unnecessary. I like it when you're offended by this stuff. That's my favorite. I'm offended. I'm trying to watch a good plot and I'm watching... Well, the point was, so in Billions, the attorney general for the Southern District of New York or whatever, he's a very powerful guy, but then his wife dominates him and does crazy, crazy stuff to him. Because he needs that I guess to balance out. Who's the guy the... Oh yeah, the... with an S. Yeah, that guy. He got caught with the hookers. Hookers and who knows. But there's a... this is... I mean, Ivanka has this air about her that's of a kind of a dominating... Ivanka or Melania? Melania. Melania. Melania. Melania. Melania. Melania and Ivanka both.

1:51:27 They could be the competing dominatrixes. Eliot Spitzer. Yeah, Eliot. Thank you, chatroom. Good catch. No, I said chatroom. Chatroom, chatroom, chatroom. There could be some sexual perversion going on here. I think that's it. I think that's it. But I don't see why it's a problem. It being a problem is kind of odd. Well, it's a problem if he thinks it's a problem. Yeah, that's true. If he doesn't like it or he likes it much. But I like the fact that it sounds like the guy's done therapy. This is good. Okay, I'm just going to wrap this up. The last one in this. And by the way, just what we just talked about, I want to remind listeners and producers that we, you can't, no one will talk about this stuff ever because they have advertisers. Yeah. It does not work that way. Do not like the idea of going a little bit that way. Well, just, yeah. Well, not even just a little bit, just talking. Any kind of discussion of anything. Just talking, like people talk about stuff, please.

CHAPTER 26 / 38 Discussion

Gloria Vanderbilt, Anderson Cooper, Trump Economic Warning

Anderson Cooper's recent interview with his mother, Gloria Vanderbilt, is contrasted with his town hall hosting duties. In his closing remarks, Donald Trump warns that the United States is currently "sitting in a bubble" and facing tremendous economic trouble. He pledges to save Social Security and Medicare, positioning himself as the only candidate not beholden to special interests.

gloria vanderbilt· anderson cooper· social security· medicare· economic bubble

1:52:22 Okay, then, you know, just to prove that this whole thing was a beautiful, agreed-to, scripted event, but perfectly executed and well done, Anderson Cooper, who I think would be a Trump supporter. You know, they traveled, these are the same circles. Yeah, you know... Within a couple of days of this, there was another event where Anderson was with his mom. Yeah, Gloria Vanderbilt. Yeah, Vanderbilt, who's a very interesting woman. and very reticent to talk about anything. And he was like a little, he looked like a little kid. His mom was there.

1:53:02 It's very interesting. Oh, he's a mama's boy mama's boy totally anyways So Trump gets to do his whole pitch at the end just to hear it one more time This has been an amazing process and you know again I said at the beginning, but I'll say it again I'm spending my own money and I understand politicians I understand what motivates them the thing that motivates them a special interest and their lobbyists and they won't do the right thing they the people that are really getting them, or the people that give them money, and by my not taking money from all of these special interests, I'm going to be able to do the right thing for the people. They do so many bad deals and people think, oh, why are they so stupid? They're not stupid. They're doing it because they're told to do it by the people that give them money. That's why, whether it's Ted Cruz or others, I mean, I will tell you, they're not going to do the right thing for the country.

1:53:46 And it just is the way politics works and nobody knows the system better than I do. And you know though how politics works at the convention if you don't make it in the first round of voting a lot of those delegates who have to vote for you in the first round they're free to go elsewhere. Well I'm not an established... Are you ready for that? Sure, I'm ready for it. Look, my life would be a lot easier. I have some wonderful things and my life would be a lot easier. I just want to do something The country, as my children have said, the country has been great to me and I want to give back. And you know, if people want me to do that, I think I'll do a fantastic job for them and we'll bring the country back and we'll save Social Security and we'll save Medicare. All this, I mean, our country is in such trouble. People don't realize what a trouble. We're sitting in a bubble. Our country is in tremendous trouble. So I think I'd do a really good job. There he is with his bubble again. He's very aware of the bubble.

1:54:37 Yeah, very good. Well the bubbles the bubble is it is what it is. Yeah, well, it's being denied There's bubble denialism going on not in this house The house that no agenda built I know only two more political clips if you're interested there come I have a counter clip to what you just went through there, okay? This is the hit piece. It's a damn good one. Oh boy, love it. I mean this is a damn good one. There's assertions that are unproven. There are conclusions that are just bullcrap. This is a piece of

CHAPTER 27 / 38 Discussion

ABC News Hit Piece, Trump Death Threats, Mark Zuckerberg

ABC News is criticized for a "media assassination" segment that accused Trump supporters of sending death threats to Republican delegates. The report featured Colorado GOP officials and linked the threats to rhetoric from Trump ally Roger Stone. Additionally, the Trump campaign responded to Mark Zuckerberg's criticisms by suggesting the Facebook founder live in a border town without private security.

abc news· tom yamas· reince priebus· mark zuckerberg· roger stone

1:55:14 This is a really... somebody's not used to seeing how this is structured. There are people that are no agenda listeners. You could easily be taken in by this. But this is the hit piece that CBS produced. It says ABC. Oh, this is the ABC hit piece, right. This is the hit piece that ABC produced. ABC of course was the big Bush supporter. They wanted Jeb. And now we don't know who they want. Unlike CBS, we know it's all in for Hillary. I've been trying to figure out what these networks are representing. This is a hit piece, it's almost as though Jeb and the Bush people who have been trying to screw over Trump. You mentioned in the last show because Barbara's mad that her boy was insulted. Yeah, yeah. I think this hit piece on ABC is a good example of how you can do it if you want to do it. Playing a huge role in the race for the White House and tonight a major new development there. Donald Trump taking on the Republican Party. Oh wait, I saw this.

1:56:15 And in the background, the background title card is Trump at War, I think. Was it something like that? It was like trumpet wars. Like they load up. It's a doozy. It's a doozy. Yes. Republican party saying the process is a scam. His family right there with him during the latest town hall, even though two of his children didn't register for the New York primary in time. And tonight new allegations that they addressed that in the, in that, uh, Von Trump sit down. I saw that very lame. Yeah. Well, to be fair, Ivanka. Oh, you know, it's so hard. No, Ivanka is a she's an independent and she said, I'm independent. I'm not going to not going to register for the Republican Party. Trump later said, you know, hopefully we'll make the party better so that Ivanka will join it. But a nice and good opening to the hit piece.

1:57:05 for the New York primary in time. And tonight, new allegations that delegates for the convention are now getting death threats from Trump supporters. Those delegates, of course, could make or break Trump in the end. ABC's Tom Yamas is in Pittsburgh. Thugs. Tonight, the race for the Republican nomination taking a dark turn. Allegations of death threats against delegates and their families by Trump supporters. This is a crooked system. These are dirty tricksters. Oh, it's rigged! Trump now insisting the Republican National Committee wants him to lose. You're saying that you don't think the RNC wants you to get the nomination? No, I don't think so. I really don't. He points to Colorado, out-organized by Senator Ted Cruz. Trump failed to win any delegates there. Nice, out-organized. Nice. Good verbiage.

1:57:52 The chairman of the Colorado Republican Party tells ABC News he's been flooded with 3,000 angry phone calls, including, he says, death threats. And he said, I need you to do me a favor. Get your gun, put it in your mouth, pull the trigger, I'll call you back in two minutes. If you can't do that, I'm going to send somebody over to the house and help you. Wow. Now, I want to hear that lead in again. Because the way it was cut, you almost think that it was Trump himself who called. Well, I never got that impression. The first thing I heard was there was no evidence that this is not it. There was the word dirty trick was used in there, which I think should have keyed the possibility that these so-called death threats, if there were any, weren't necessarily from Trump's group. Cruz would be the guy who was still in the game. They're the guys who are using the dirty tricks. Right. But you'd have somebody, you know, you'd know how to do this. The dirty tricks are guys in politics who know how to do this. You're not going to get caught.

1:58:48 So you can go someplace, some phone booth or somewhere, burner phone, who knows. And you make these phone calls on behalf of Trump, even though you're- Yeah, you're not. Yeah. And then you tip off the news people that this is going on, or you have somebody call them. I mean, the whole thing is a little too packaged for my taste, and it makes no sense. Right, but Trump gets the disadvantage here of the New York Vibe, baby. These are like mobster tactics. That's you know it feels like they're mob mobsters kind of yeah It's a beautiful piece. It's very good. You don't mind if I just stop it from time to time is no It's a little long. He's been flooded with 3,000 angry phone calls including he says death threats, and he said I need you to do me a favor

1:59:35 Get your gun, put it in your mouth, pull the trigger, I'll call you back in two minutes. If you can't do that, I'm going to send somebody over to the house and help you. It's not just Colorado. A number of Indiana delegates tell us they too are getting threats from Trump supporters. Very spooky, very personal, referencing things about my family. One email saying, quote, think before you take a step down the wrong path. Warning of, quote, a future in hiding. Trump's longtime ally and confidant strategist Roger Stone has urged supporters to vent their anger at the Republican convention in Cleveland. We will disclose the hotels and the room numbers of those delegates who are directly involved in the steal. We urge you to visit their hotel and find them. But behind Trump's anger, the

2:00:20 truth that he could get more votes and still lose the nomination at a contested convention. Hi South Carolina, I'm Ivanka Trump. Hi Nevada, I'm Ivanka Trump. Aloha Hawaii, I'm Ivanka Trump. His own daughter Ivanka in these videos reminding voters to register. You need to actually be registered as a Republican and that's it. Very exciting. Now admitting she herself isn't registered to vote in the New York primary. Her brother Eric is Same thing. We're not a family of politicians. We haven't been in politics very long. New York has one of the most onerous rules in terms of registration. It was our first kind of foray into politics. We didn't realize how the whole system worked. And tonight, as the Trump tirade continues from the RNC...

2:01:02 exasperation chairman reince priebus tweeting quote no you know just hearing that i think you're i think they're lying about that i agree about the registering i like this the use of the word as the trump tirade continues now yeah that like you just played a whole bunch of stuff there's no tirade involved there and that would have been part of the so-called tirade continuing. So you make it sound as though you have a madman shaking his fist and he's doing it continuously. He hasn't stopped. Pitching and moaning. And I don't remember him ever using the word scam, which is the way the piece was set up, I might add, by David Muir. So this is like a wonderful example of a media assassination. Media assassination. And tonight, as the Trump tirade continues from the RNC,

2:01:52 Exasperation. Chairman Reince Priebus tweeting quote, nomination process known for a year plus beyond. Complaints now give us all a break. And now a Trump spokesman firing back at Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg after he criticized the billionaire. I hear fearful voices calling for building walls walls and distancing people they label as others. And that Trump spokesperson saying this about Mark Zuckerberg, I think I'll take Mark Zuckerberg seriously when he gives up all of his private security, moves out of his posh neighborhood and comes live in a modest neighborhood near a border town. David? That was the response to Zuckerberg, Tom. Meanwhile, any response from the Trump campaign tonight on those allegations of death threats against delegates?

2:02:36 David, we don't know if the Trump campaign condones this. We don't know if the Trump campaign condemns this because tonight they are not commenting. David. Tom Yamas with us tonight from Pittsburgh. Tom, thank you. Tom Yamas, yes. We don't know if they condone it. They don't condone it. There's no way they condone it, but we don't know. That little bomb in there to me was like the cherry on top of this baby. That's really horrible. It was, oh, we don't know if they condone it. We don't know. Maybe they can, which assumes maybe they condone it. Because you asked that question. It is unbelievable. APC is unbelievable. I caught two memes in this. One is dark. We started off, you know, things turn dark and the wrong path. And I caught Charlie Rose on CBS in the morning show

CHAPTER 28 / 38 Discussion

John Kasich, Path of Darkness, Political Gaffes

John Kasich and Charlie Rose are criticized for using the "path of darkness" meme to describe the campaigns of Trump and Cruz. Meanwhile, Clinton surrogate Joel Benenson made a significant gaffe on air, accidentally suggesting that Obama consulted Hillary Clinton on whether to "go after Barack Obama." The lack of media correction for this slip-up is highlighted as a sign of journalistic bias.

john kasich· charlie rose· barack obama· joel benenson· hillary clinton

2:03:26 Combining those. I want to get to this. You were saying in a speech today that- I'm sorry, he's talking to John Kasich. There are two paths. Right. One is a path of darkness. Correct. Who is articulating the path of darkness? Trump and Cruz. The path of darkness, John. Trump is. Yeah, and Cruz. And Cruz. And Cruz. Of course, the path... So this started with the Kasich campaign. This wrong path, path of darkness. Kasich would be the guy who could pull off these dirty tricks because he's one of those types of politicians, old school. Exactly. Maybe more so than Cruz. And Charlie Rose is also old school. Charlie Rose is all in on anybody but Trump.

2:04:07 And I think that's been, I think we've pointed that out on a couple of occasions. Now, I also like the word, they use the word since it was used by the Brits so much in this recent class war thing that's trying to do with... Billions? Posh. Oh, posh. Posh, yes. Posh. Posh spice. That's not a word anyone uses. Who uses posh? Posh spice. Well, yeah, and she's British, right? Yeah. Posh. Posh. Posh. Yeah, posh. Okay, let's go. I want to get to this. It's only 20 seconds. You were saying in a speech today that there are two paths. Right. One is a path of darkness. Correct. Who is articulating the path of darkness? Trump and Cruz. Both of them? Oh, I think so. I mean, look, you're on the one hand, you're targeting Muslim neighborhoods or secondly, you're deporting. You're targeting Muslim neighborhoods?

2:05:03 The word targeting is pretty good too. How is he targeting Muslim neighborhoods? Amazon targets Muslim neighborhoods. I mean, you know, hey, you might be interested in this carpet after you just bought one. Let me ask you a question because I haven't heard this clip. Right after he says they're targeting Muslim neighborhoods, Charlie says, how are they doing that? Explain. Right? Let me think. both of them.

2:05:51 Wait, you- you stepped- Did you hear his voice? You stepped on it. You stepped on the last bit. Okay, well you can back it up, but- but Rose was, oh, that's horrible! Why are so many Republicans voting for them? Walking down the path of darkness. The- you're going down the left-hand path, my friend. A million people, or you're making crazy promises that are not gonna be fulfilled. Then why are so many Republican voters voting for them? Well, I think first of all, Charlie- Covering a path of darkness. Walking the path of darkness. Oh my god. Oh, okay. And so then I have a funny. This is, uh, who is this guy? One of the Clinton surrogates, Joel Benenson. And talking about reporters not listening and not saying anything. I mean, after the gaffe, I shut it off.

2:06:40 But believe me, the reporter never said, oh, by the way, you said that incorrectly. You know, when it comes to the question of judgment, let's be clear. Hillary Clinton ran a spirited campaign against then Senator Obama. And at the end of that campaign, he made a decision about her judgment and trusted her to put her in as secretary of state overseeing American diplomacy relations around the world. He listened to her in the Situation Room time after time, including around decisions about whether or not to go after Barack Obama. I think it's unfortunate. It was a quid pro quo. We knew that. It was just a deal that you get out of the race and I'll give you a secretary or I'll get out of the race. You missed it. He was actually the smart politician. You missed it.

2:07:28 You missed the gaffe. What was the gaffe? It's at the end. Play it again, play it again. I wasn't listening for a gaffe carefully. I was looking at my clips list, sorry. So you're commenting on something that you didn't even hear it. Okay. Take your B12. He listened to her in the situation room time after time including around decisions about whether or not to go after Barack Obama. I mean we've heard people make that was a huge one that was a was a that was I'll give you I'll give you I Deserved all the criticism that you have it's so obvious Yeah, because you actually prove the point that way you're not listening. You don't hear this shit exactly

CHAPTER 29 / 38 Discussion

Al Jazeera America Closure, Final Broadcast, Media Landscape

Al Jazeera America aired its final broadcast, marking the end of the Qatar-funded network's attempt to enter the U.S. market. The sign-off featured anchors thanking viewers for supporting "the voice of the voiceless." The network's closure is seen as a predictable failure of a massive, top-down media organization that failed to find a significant audience.

al jazeera america· qatar· cable news· final broadcast· media

2:08:11 So what were you going to give me? I have, I'm giving you a point. That's a ding on the bell. That's not a point. It's a point. Okay. Well everyone plus one Adam plus one plus one Adam going after Barack Obama. Very good. Well, I want us as we're going to bashing Hillary a little bit. Yes. Is they, and again I will mention I've tried to find out who's for whom and what you know so we can you can use it to they never tell you but you can figure it out. What do you mean who's for whom? Like why is ABC who they are. Oh which network is for okay yeah well it changes. Whose network's for what and who's what. Oh by the way before you play that you might as well play this which is the AJ the Al Jazeera

2:09:02 Oh yeah, the closing death. It says goodbye forever. Yes, the closing death. But we'll never know who they're for. From our first moments on the air when Rochelle and I welcomed you on August 20th of 2013, we've tried to bring you the stories that other news organizations don't. And we hope we have lived up to our promise to be the voice of the voiceless and to speak truth to power. To those of you who have supported us on air and online, we thank you for allowing us to tell your stories. Good night and goodbye. A sad day for democracy. Play your sound effect. Where's your sound effect? I would have bet money that... Good point. Oops. That's the drain sound. Let's see. No, that's not it. Never mind.

CHAPTER 30 / 38 Discussion

Hillary Clinton Gun Control Claims, Vermont Statistics, Bernie Sanders

Hillary Clinton attacked Bernie Sanders by claiming that Vermont is the primary source of out-of-state guns used in New York crimes. Fact-checkers noted that while Vermont may have a high "per capita" rate due to its small population, only 55 guns out of 4,600 came from the state. The attack is viewed as a desperate attempt to find a wedge issue against Sanders' campaign.

hillary clinton· bernie sanders· gun control· vermont· new york

2:09:52 This is why I do the sound effects. Alright, so the democracy now is so in on Bernie. Yeah. Oh yeah. They're the only ones doing any critical analysis of Hillary. And this is one of a couple. The other one I had to produce a little bit, so I'll probably run it on Sunday, where they go after her. They bring a professor in and go after her on her Secretary of State moments. This is a clip from one of her little town halls where she's, I don't know what drug she's on this time. Oh boy. But she's talking like this. And this is Clinton on guns from Vermont. Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton attacked Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders on the issue of gun control. Most of the guns that are used in crime. Wow, her voice got really high, John.

2:10:50 That has if anyone of any of our listeners know what drugs will do that It sounds like her vocal cords are even affected in the up instead of down something is wrong with her the guns That are used in crimes and violence and killings in New York Come from out of state And the state that has the highest per capita number of those guns that end up committing crimes in New York come from Vermont. Federal data shows of the nearly 4,600 out-of-state guns recovered in New York in 2014, just 55 came from Vermont. Oh, that's great. Yeah. Hey, Uma, Hillary needs a bump.

2:11:41 55 out of what huge number comes from Vermont, but Hillary makes this claim. And if you deconc... if you parse it, she learns from her husband. If you carefully parse what she said, you have to play it again, if you can just play her it'd be great. She's right. Hold on, that was around the middle I think, yeah. And the state that has the highest per capita number of those guns that end up committing crimes in New York is Vermont. Come from Vermont. Federal data. No one lives there. No one lives there. That's why it's the highest per capita. No one lives there, it's per capita. Oh my goodness. Which is a stupid statistic. The fact that she would say this without somebody condemning her on the spot

2:12:28 It's, okay, there's only 55 guns out of over a thousand, which is a spit in the bucket, but there's not that many people in Vermont, thus the 55 is the most. Yeah, but this is, you're right, but they're building up this defense because I saw someone else going around saying that Bernie Sanders is a living, walking advertisement for the NRA. That he's all in with it. This is the only weak spot that they can find with him. Yeah, yeah. Guns. She's totally disgusting and the other stuff that's coming out about she lies. She's a horrible person. Yeah, she does lie quite a bit. I agree there's something wrong with her the way she speaks in this situation. Something's wrong. I have another clip where she's constantly clearing her throat like she's gonna choke to death. Yeah, which one is that?

CHAPTER 31 / 38 Discussion

Wolf Blitzer, Gestapo Tactics Controversy, Media Hypocrisy

CNN's Wolf Blitzer confronted Trump spokesperson Katrina Pearson over the campaign's use of the term "Gestapo tactics" to describe Ted Cruz's delegate strategy. Pearson pointed out the hypocrisy of the media's outrage, noting that Blitzer never objected when Trump was repeatedly compared to Hitler. Blitzer invoked the Holocaust to argue the term was inappropriate for a domestic political campaign.

wolf blitzer· katrina pearson· gestapo· holocaust· cnn

2:13:25 I don't have it produced yet. Oh, okay. Oh, Sunday, Sunday. Now when, when the Trump is Hitler meme was going around, but it was pretty strong. I mean, we were probably the only people that were saying, first of all, it just doesn't hold up because it's just, there's too many differences between the two. But we also, I think kind of flabbergasted that the American media would be so callous with this comparison about anybody. And yeah, we have laws for this people. You know, God wins law. We have laws. When you pull the Hitler card, then it's over. Discussion over. We figured this out a long time ago. Did we ever hear Wolf Blitzer? I think Wolf Blitzer, he never defended anyone using that, did he? He never said, hey, cut that out. No. Because I'm a Jew and Hitler did horrible things to Jews and Trump's no comparison.

2:14:23 I'm that I know of I didn't have anybody did in the media I wonder do we have a clip where maybe he talks about it. Let me see what is it? I notice we're not getting a lot of blitzer clips. Well. I have one for today good I'm just looking to see if I had a blitzer Well, I don't think anyone except us said that's kind of out of order But something happened A day or two ago, where the Trump campaign, it's so silly, but the Trump campaign or someone from the Trump campaign said Ted Cruz is using Gestapo tactics.

2:15:06 Okay, okay. Yes, okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Here's Wolf Blitzer talking to I like this girl, Katrina Pearson. She's the kind of multiculti Asian girl with the with the silly bangs and the long, really dark sleek hair. What's your name again? Her name is Katrina Pearson. Papa echo. Yeah, take a look. So here's the hypocrite blitzer. What? Well, you know, it's not just our convention manager. I mean, even K6 people were talking about some of the tactics that were being used in Michigan. For example, they used the word strong arm, which essentially is the same thing. There are a lot of delegates that are receiving, let's just say interesting phone calls from people that might sound intimidating. So we're going to find out, aren't we? Is it appropriate to use the word Gestapo? Because I assume you know what the Gestapo did. Oh, this is the- It is a word to- What?

2:16:12 This is the Trump spokeswoman. Yeah, the Trump spokeswoman. Oh yeah, no, she's dynamite. Yeah. So Blitzer, the man who never said anything about calling Trump Hitler, he's not going to stop. He's not going to stop about this. He should call him out right there. I'm sorry? I think she made a mistake if she doesn't call him out. She does actually, she calls him out. Well, it is a word to define exactly the type of malice that is involved. And by the way, her excuse is bullshit. It's just as stupid to say this, but it's about the hypocrisy. With going after some of these delegates in a very hostile and intimidating way. But Katrina, you know what the Gestapo did during World War II. That word should not be used to talk about the tactics that the Cruz campaign engaged. That was inappropriate, right?

2:17:01 Well, again, you're talking about a campaign that doesn't really care much for political correctness. And if it's a term that just simply describes how malicious this activity has been... But it's inappropriate. You don't use the word Gestapo to talk about a political campaign... Because the word Hitler is so much better to use during a political campaign. ...a political campaign in the United States. That gives the Gestapo too much credit, right? Don't you wish you could have taken that back? But where was all this hostility and concern when Mr. Trump was being called Hitler? So no, I think this is just another situation where it is a word to determine just how hostile that this has gone on in these states for these delegates. And I think it was a word that just lets everyone know exactly what he was talking about. So you don't want to back away from the word, you don't want to back away from that word, Gustavo?

2:17:46 No, and the Kasich campaign also talked about the strong arm tactics that the Cruz campaign is using. Strong arm tactics is one thing, but the Gestapo, you know what they did during World War II. You know the millions of people, especially Jews, who were murdered. Yes, he was talking about exactly the same thing, the strong arm tactics that the Cruz campaign has been using, the intimidation, and a lot of people feel a little hurt by that. So, brolf. What is he trying to do? Is he single-handedly trying to protect the Jews? I don't know what he's trying to do if he didn't do the same thing whenever when they used to... No, never. No, never. Of course not. I don't think we have any record of that. No, zero record. No, this is the same thing. CNN is all in for Hillary. I know, I know, I know, I know. Hey, this is something I'm working on.

CHAPTER 33 / 38 Discussion

NPR Future, Podcast Revolution, Syracuse University Debate

A Slate article titled "The Fight for the Future of NPR" examines the struggle of public radio to adapt to the podcasting era. A host announces an upcoming debate at Syracuse University with radio executive Lee Masters regarding the survival of traditional broadcasting. The discussion highlights the exodus of top NPR talent to independent podcast networks.

npr· podcasting· lee masters· syracuse university· radio

2:20:12 So there was another one of these articles that came out about... there's about NPR and podcasting. Did you read that article? No. Oh, huge... I might have, but right now I'm in denial. Yeah, then it was... I think it was Slate. You know, huge article about NPR and their problem with podcasts and they don't have... you know, the business model is taking over, they're antiquated, they're an Iraq... an Iraq... An arachnid. No, the old-fashioned thing, the word I can never remember. Anachronism. Yeah, I know what the word is. Anachronism. Anachronism would be a good one, yeah. So the title of the article is The Fight for the Future of NPR! Can Public Radio Survive the Podcast Revolution? And

2:21:03 I guess you got your boy in there at the NPR, one of your old pals. Yeah, Lee Masters. He's obviously all shook up. And we're rescheduled for our debate at Syracuse University for, I think, November. The debate was supposed to happen in January. Can you do this for us again, please? I'm sorry? Can you reiterate? Oh, yeah, there's the it's the Syracuse University. What is it the something school of broadcasting famous school of broadcasting up there? Okay, I don't know anything about a school of broadcasting or communications or something probably the communications department so there's going to be a forum and and a debate and It'll be radio. It's focused on radio and

2:21:50 Yeah. And Lee Masters will be there and I will be there. And I think someone else... And you'll be... I will be... ...your buddy. Yes, and I will be... I'm gonna take him down. Gonna take him down? I gotta take him down. Okay, what are you gonna... how are you gonna manage this? Well, see, the thing... here's the problem with all of this thinking. Everyone's looking at CPMs. You even tweeted a couple things about the CPMs and... you know, how people are trying to figure out how to, you know, compare podcasts to radio. And then this article pontificates about how, you know, all these great NPR hosts and producers have left and they formed their own networks and now they're going to be the new NPR. There's some huge networks out there. They're just, I see these networks. The one thing about that Al Jazeera clip,

2:22:37 where they said goodbye. Yeah. I was gonna say that I don't think 95% of our listeners and producers ever watched one episode of this thing over the two and a half years. No, no, no. They heard a couple clips on our show. They had it. I've used a couple clips, but that's very minor. And there was these two guys standing up, they're saying goodbye, and there was behind them, the staffing. It had to be 200 people. 200? It was a huge organization. Right. Okay, so we're going to talk about exactly why NPR and radio in general is, you know, you're seeing it now, it could take another 10, 20 years before it's really completely dead. Maybe there's some alternative use found for the transmitters that'll be hanging around. The transmitters are, yeah, and they're costly. But here's the thing.

CHAPTER 34 / 38 Discussion

Podcast Monetization Models, Network Control, Apple Ecosystem

The evolution of podcasting is analyzed, focusing on the failure of the "classic network" model to monetize the internet effectively. The hosts argue that successful podcasts build communities that support them directly, rather than relying on centralized advertising sales. There is a call for Apple to revolutionize the industry by facilitating direct listener support through the iOS ecosystem.

podcasting· monetization· apple· advertising· earwolf

2:23:32 See, everyone is still thinking... It's taken me 10 years before I kind of got... I'm able to almost verbalize it. Because I raised a lot of money and built a company to do exactly the dumb shit these people are doing 10 years later. I mean, it's dumb. Pod show. Pod show, yes. Pod show, Mevio, whatever you want to call it. It definitely was about advertising, which really was never... You know, I thought advertising would change. I was wrong about that. But the actual people in the industry don't understand that when you talk about a network, the CBS network or the CNN news network or whatever kind of, but I like the idea of network like CBS and ABC and NBC.

2:24:16 But even BBC is a network. Yeah, but the networks and they buy shows and programming. Classic network. Classic network. And the reason why they were able to make money so fabulously for such a long time is because they controlled the network. Now, once you put that onto the actual network, which is the internet, you cannot monetize that network. You have no standing, you have no rights unless somehow you can do it with I think that's what obviously part of the net neutrality bullcrap was about. But you cannot monetize the network. So the old system was you have the network and people really can only get programming through you. So they're forced into your network. That's your, you know, your network is really your listeners or your viewers at that point.

2:25:10 And then you control everything, so you can control advertising and how it's measured. No, that's bullcrap too, by the way. It's not that television measurement is any better than podcast measurement. We still don't know if you're actually sitting there with your eyes on the screen. In the new world, again, 10 years before I figured this out, in the new world, The network, you're not going to make money off the network. No. What happens is the network builds itself around you. And then it supports you in whatever way is appropriate for the community, the network you have built. So for us, that's donations, but it's a lot more. I mean, the 200 people that you were talking about on the stupid show?

2:25:51 all these people who are behind it and working on it. That's our network. We get songs, jingles, ideas, inside information, artwork, you name it. That's the new model. And the old inside out, it's completely inside out and you have to take advantage of the technology. So if you're doing a podcast and you can't edit, boy, you know, or someone on your direct team can't edit or can't do, I mean, you can't outsource that. So making money in a network is over any of these like this American life or, you know, although I think that still they're a little too,

2:26:33 I think those are exceptions. A lot of NPR programming is just not interesting enough because they're not honest. They can't be honest because of their sponsors, underwriters, advertisers call you what they want. And now they're even trying to talk more hip in NPR programming. It was in this article. Like we're trying to say things like, like. I mean, they're insane. They're crashing and burning. Whereas every single individual... In slow motion. It's very, very slow motion. Yes, very, very slow motion. Which makes it more fun to watch. It's totally fun to watch. You don't have to stop the action, you get to watch it in real time slow motion. It's fantastic. So, the problem with the thinking, to wrap it up,

2:27:13 is that the, the, not, it's not the business model. It is the actual concept of what broadcasting and a network is. That's what people aren't seeing right. And it's the same with the newspapers. News, news is worthless. Squirreless. You're in the news business? Get out. Get out. But your networks will support you. Maybe you just want to sell clothes hangers because that's what your deal is. Your network will support you one way or the other. There you go. Well, these networks are... I'm looking at them and every once in a while I run into one. Yeah, I sent you the one, I forget the name of it. Yeah, that was the one with Chip Gregory. Chip Gregory is now working for him. Did you hear that thing? It's still episode zero. Like he's doing a... you know, this is how anachronistic he is. This is what he's gonna do. No, that's old school thinking. Oh, this is a pilot. Yeah, it's a teaser. No, it was lame and you're reading... Very old school. You're reading...

2:28:15 Yeah, reading a script. Yeah, and he's got a producer. You know, and you know the following without any other knowledge. He's got a producer that's writing stuff for him. He's got an engineer who's working the board while he yaks into the mic. There's probably two other support people. He's probably got a secretary or an administrative assistant. So it's probably a five to six-man operation just to do a podcast on one side. And it is a... It's not going to get any listeners because they're

2:28:51 They don't understand the model of distribution. In other words, you gotta do a lot of this stuff yourself. You can't expect the network. And because he's on that network, which I can't remember the name of, it's called lame duck dot com or something. I don't remember either. Well, it'll show up. They must have 100 shows or they have at least. Yeah. And then you're going to end the top show is going to get all the money and all the advertising. Everyone else is bitching and moaning underneath it. Like, woo-oo-oo-oo-oo. Well, you experienced that at Pod Show. Yeah. The Pod Show model, which is being copied over and over and over again, even despite its... Earwolf, John. Earwolf. Earwolf. The Earwolf Network. Very interesting, the Earwolf. Ear, like you're hearing it. Yes. Wolf, like they've got some wild thing going on. Earwolf. Hey everybody, it's the Podcast Network. I'm Chip Gregory. How you doing?

2:29:46 So you have this group and the podcasts are all the same range of podcasts. I'd have to lift up the, I'd have to open the site and discuss this in a critical manner. But they have all these, you know, political thing, two jokers. It's all doomed. All of the podcast one, it's all doomed. Adam Carolla, you know, he's got a whole network around him. Yeah, but he's breaking it up to go sit in other people's networks. Podcast one. Because they're doing the sales because it's so stupid. No, he had his own network, a whole slew of shows. Same thing, exactly the same as Podshow. A bunch of shows and the only show making money is his show. And so you got all these other guys that want money. I'm telling you, Apple or Google, both these guys, actually Apple, it's really only Apple. You look at podcasts that are consumed on devices, it's iPhones.

2:30:42 There is such a huge gaping business opportunity to facilitate supporting podcasts through your system and maybe not raping everybody for 30% but make it something that's affordable. Just like you revolutionize the music business by burning it to the ground, actually revolutionize something that is already smoldering and needs to catch fire. It's so obvious. Well, no it's not. Took you 10 years. Give me a break. Yeah, well, okay. Thank you. It's obvious. It's obvious to me. You're right. You're right. You're right. No, good point. I will give you a break. In fact, here's your break. I give you your point back. I give you, here's your point.

CHAPTER 35 / 38 Discussion

Final Donor Credits, International Producers, Birthday Shoutouts

The final segment of the show acknowledges producers from around the world, including donors from Barcelona, Sweden, and British Columbia. Specific "boob donations" ($80.08) and "vital" contributions are recognized. The hosts express gratitude for the global network of listeners who keep the program operational through the value-for-value model.

donations· producers· amsterdam· barcelona· sweden

2:31:41 Take your point. Plus one. So what will just be plus one then? We have a few people to thank. Starting with... Okay, I'm gonna have trouble with this. He's in Rotterdam, so he's Dutch and his name is Oystenberge. Oh, let me see. Where are we here? Oh, Oystenberge. Yeah, he supported us the other week too. What was his donation number? 17312. There's a reason for that. Well, I don't remember his name. I would have stopped the show in the same way. Well, yeah, I remember the name. He's donated before. But I don't know what the... Well, thank you, Oystein. Sir Ben Nades in Brooklyn, New York, 16463.

2:32:32 Oh, well he was I guess in New York at the meetup and he left on Tuesday before I left on Tuesday. I stayed there a long time. He was late. He was late. Oh, I suppose you don't have too much for D bag guilt being a member of the 800 club and one of the few black nights. This is a, however I regret not giving you spending money for your birthday celebration. It goes into the bank or you do not take in person donations as Adam does. No, I, we took the things on the envelopes. I got quite a few of them. They were in a couple of shows ago, those things. Okay, anyway, he... I'm so glad you got to do that meetup. Yeah, so is Mimi. Why was she glad? She likes to get out of the house. You guys should get out of the house more. She says, you should do more meetups. Three of us ended up somehow singing Start Me Up on karaoke that night. I feel I best approximated... This was a great event, by the way.

2:33:30 I best approximated Mick Jagger's voice. I think a lot of people made friends at this event, I hope so. Like they did in Detroit, we have a whole bunch of people that are all buddies now. He did Mick Jagger's voice. Well, maybe he should do something for us. He's got Nick Durant's phone number, he goes. Oh, well, that's trouble brewing right there. It was not a good... Yeah, you got Mick Durant. Hey, can I crash? But I gotta listen to me anyway, thank you for thank you for showing up at that event lovely Jared Wolfe in Netherland Texas neither land neither land neither land is it neither land neither land He's gonna be a night one three three four two and he wants to be knighted a sir lone wolf of Vidor, Texas And he's also got a birthday. Do you have him on the list or be knighted? Let me see I think so

2:34:21 Yes, yes, knighting and his birthday. Yes got both of that. My wife allowed me to finish my knighthood as my present. Ah That's nice. Can I get a lone wolf howling? Okay, we're gonna karma at the end here. I'm word Ned jazz karma for everyone at the end. Oh, it's a boob donation What a boob donation? What's a boob donation boob? Oh boob 8008 boom Jeffrey Durrell in New South Wales 808 that's the boob Donation and you can do the boobs which is 800. Oh eight five. It's a big one, but I like it. Oh yeah

2:35:07 Anonymous mom in Lakewood, Colorado, $77. And she is anonymous. Keep my name out of this, she says, but she wants a birthday call out. It's anonymous, okay. Nadia Gruber. Wait, hold on, we have to read this. Hold on to read this. Your dad and I are so proud that we raised a kid that would hit us in the mouth. You're embarrassing wild hair smother. Can you please play Donating is Love? I don't know if I still have that. Well, we do have the one I want you to play at the end of the show if you make a note. Okay. Donate to no agenda. It's a risk podcast in the universe. Donate to no agenda. Yes. I just remember we haven't heard it for a while. Well, we'll have a little uh donate uh, donate to mix off at the end here. Nadia Gruber in San Marcos, California. $60. Take a look at her notes. See if there's anything there. Fabrice Chumie in Anaheim, California. Bless you.

2:36:07 Yes, thank you. 5533. Also a birthday? Birthday? On the 27th? 27th birthday on the 17th. Got it. This is a good one. Ekaterina Atenasova. Wow. Ekaterina Atenasova. Who names their kid, etc.? North North Borough, Massachusetts 55. That's a great vital vital the Torre Rivas in Barcelona Vital de la Torre Rivas Barcelona is the best Barcelona 5432 and McGillicuddy Wow and McGillicuddy in Venetia random numbers John we have three crazy names in a row I

2:36:59 Yeah, we're true. She's also known as Connie Mac. Yeah, I was 51 15 from Phoenicia William Wellborn in Kennesaw, Georgia, 5033, famous Civil War place. And now the rest of these people are $50 donors and I'll read them in order with their location. Alejandro Schappa in Houston, Texas. John Haller in Missoula, Montana. Jason Brockman in Hamilton, Ohio. Michael Viklund in Sweden someplace. 50 Richard Gardner, I think it's Sir Richard in 50 parts unknown Yakub Wojciak who's also I believe a knight now I think so too in North Vancouver British Columbia North Vancouver and Natalie strange in Norwich got a birthday for her Patricia Worthington same name for the issue Worthington in Miami Florida one of our favorites and Brandon Savoie

2:37:57 Parts Unknown and last but not least Sir Mike Westerfield. Also no location there. I want to thank all these folks for helping us out as the people that keep the show going. There's also a lot of people that helped in lesser amounts. I want to thank them too. Yes, and those of course come in with subscriptions. Those are highly appreciated. If you don't have one go to Dvorak.org check that out. And yeah, for reasons of anonymity. Alright, we got we have some title changes. We got some nights and of course we got some birthdays first the the promised Mix-up donation mix-off karma thingy why because donating is Donate to a no agenda. They give us as we get her we donate to a no agenda

CHAPTER 36 / 38 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Peerage Titles, Birthday Celebrations

A formal knighting ceremony is conducted for several high-level donors, including Sir Shyster and Sir War Bacon. New baronets are added to the peerage map, and the hosts discuss the logistics of sending out official No Agenda rings. The segment includes a series of birthday shoutouts for producers and their family members.

knighthood· baronet· peerage· birthday· rings

2:38:49 It's a show that's really unique. Donate to a no agenda. Listen to John and Adam speak. Donate to a no agenda. Science is turning into a clique. Dvorak.org slash NA. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Very nice. Thank you everybody. It's your birthday, birthday! Quite a list today. Jared Wolf turned 32 on the 12th of April. Sir Joho says happy birthday to his hot Afghan wife, turning 33 today, the magic number. Eric Olsen says happy birthday to Liam Olsen, turning 6 tomorrow. Sir AJ Reistat says happy birthday to Katie, who turned 9 on April 2nd, and Nate, who turned 7 today.

2:39:42 Can't get him started early enough, Sir Ray J. The priest, Shoomy the Shoes, celebrates on the 17th of April. Anonymous Mom says happy birthday to her son, he's turning 25. And Natalie Strange says happy birthday to her husband Kevin, 40 years old on May 28th. Happy birthday from all your pals here in the universe! Let's see, we have Sir Kaytown, who becomes a baronet today. Congratulations. And Sir Benitis, also baronet status. That will be updated appropriately in the peerage map. For those of you who don't know, we have our knights and once you get to a baron status, do you get anything with baronet? No. Only with baron, right? I think so. Right. Then you can get a protectorate. And so after the Armageddon and the ham radio guys save us,

2:40:32 There will be a... What did the ham radio guy say? What did the ham radio... He said after the Armageddon, he said. Think you want to hear you want to hear you want to hear that radio guy. Yeah, I know now here We have ham radio guys ham radio is the public service network of last resort When the apocalypse comes we're the guys who are gonna save the world right mm-hmm Don't drop don't drop the soap in front of the hams good guy and And we have, let's see, one, two, three knightings today. So I've got my sword. Where is your sword? Here, sword of knightage. Ah, there we go.

2:41:17 Let me see let's get Brian Mancuso up here Jared Wolfe and Eric Olson gentlemen three lecterns here for you at the podium that you see there We have the table that is round. It's where the Knights and the dames Congregate for our meetings how we will protect all of the protectorates I'm very proud today to pronounce the Kate the Knights of the no agenda roundtable on hereby name you sir Sir Scheister, Destroyer of Cones, Jared Wolf, Sir Long Wolf of Vidor, and Sir War Bacon. Thank you, Eric Olson. For you gentlemen, we have Hookers & Blow, Rent Poison, Chardonnay, Crickets & Cream, Cuban Cigars & Single Malt Scotch, Malted Barley & Hops, Hot Pants & Booze, Vodka & Vanilla, Gerbils & Ginger Ale, and Mutton & Mead. Go to noagendanation.com slash rings. Pick up what you need there.

2:42:05 which is the information so Eric can send you out the ring. And please tweet it, we love retweeting night and dame rings. It's a groovy. All right. Okay. What are we doing on time? We're long baby. We're long already? Yeah, I think I did too much Trump. I'm sorry. Probably my fault. That Trump thing was a little bit long. I enjoyed it though. Okay. Well then that's good. I do have... I have a couple of things I could put off, but I do have, since I talked about the British, Kind of brouhaha. I do have a clip if anyone's interested. It's a little long. Okay, but this is how you get kicked out

CHAPTER 37 / 38 Discussion

Dennis Skinner, Dodgy Dave, UK Parliament Expulsion

Veteran MP Dennis Skinner was expelled from the House of Commons for the day after refusing to withdraw the term "Dodgy Dave" in reference to Prime Minister David Cameron. The Speaker of the House ruled the adjective unparliamentary, leading to a standoff. The incident is used to highlight the restrictive nature of speech within the hallowed halls of British government.

dennis skinner· david cameron· parliament· dodgy dave· free speech

2:42:49 of the House, of Parliament. This is Dennis Skinner, the left guy was more left than a stop sign, or whatever. Yeah, then the left hand sign in... Left hand turn sign, yeah. In Albania. He is in the House, or in Parliament. Oh, this is the Dodgy Dave thing. This day brings up dodgy Dave and the whole thing unfurls and they kick him out. Yeah, this is dodgy Dave of the Dave Cameron, of course, is what he's talking about. Talking about Dave Cameron. I don't know, it's a good way to end the show because it's kind of funny. Okay. It's a little long but it shows how they do this in England. All right, here we go. The Prime Minister recalled that at the time after he became Prime Minister under the coalition,

2:43:42 And at the time when he was dividing the nation between strivers and scroungers, I asked him a very important question about the windfall he received when he wrote off the mortgage of the premises in Notting Hill and I said to him he didn't write off the mortgage of the one the taxpayers were helping to pay for at Oxford. I didn't receive a proper answer then. Maybe dodgy Dave will answer it now. And by the way... Scandalous! And by the way...

2:44:26 Order! Order! Order! I must ask the Honourable Gentleman... Order! I don't require any assistance from some junior minister. It's an absurd proposition. I invite the honourable gentleman to withdraw that adjective that he used a moment ago. He's perfectly capable of asking his question without using that word. It is up to him, but if he doesn't wish to withdraw it, I can't reasonably ask the Prime Minister to answer the question. Do you mind if I just stop for one second? Book of Knowledge. Definition of dodgy.

2:45:07 Dodgy has a couple of uses as an adjective. One, of uncertain outcome, especially fraught with risk. Two, marked by skill and deception. Hmm. I was wondering if it was like, you know, how bloody is bad in the UK? If you say bloody, it's like using an F- an F-bomb? I guess the dodgy as deception is like accusatory and that- that reason this was at least they- Could the sun- could the sun print it? If the sun- or the sun doesn't exist anymore. But everyone says bloody in the newspapers but it's not the same.

2:45:47 I think he knows the word beginning with D and ending in Y that he inappropriately used. What is it, deviant? I know what you think. Very simple. Withdraw. Withdraw. Withdraw. This man has done more to divide this nation than anybody else. He's looked after his own, I still refer to him as Dodgy Dale. Do what you like. Order, order, order. I'm sorry, I must ask the Honourable Gentleman to withdraw the work. Very well.

2:46:41 Under the power given to me by Standing Order Number 43, I order the Honourable Member to withdraw immediately from the House for the remainder of this day's sitting. Off with his head! Very well. Drawing closer here. No reply is required to that question. We will take next Sir Edward Lee. Oh man, those guys have too much fun. That's great! You can hear the thing carefully, you hear all these guys in the background saying all kinds of scurries. Horrible things, yeah, like Dickie Dave.

2:47:34 Horrible, horrible things. Horrible things. That was a fun little bit. I encourage that. That was funny. But how about free speech? You'd think that in the hallowed halls of Parliament you could exercise free speech. You can't say dodgy. Dodgy, dodgy, evasive, shifty, unsound, unstable, unreliable. Yeah, yeah All righty, I buy thank bear much. Thank you very much being here today Thank you book of knowledge you'd like the book of knowledge I'd like that bit Oh people keep asking me how I did the hack to change it. I'm sorry. I'm sworn to secrecy Sorry remember I had that right remember. I was I was talking about this thing I

2:48:26 First I said if this thing had an Apple logo on it people be losing their shit and now people are losing their shit over it because I knew it was a great great piece of a kit Good piece of gear. So somebody told you how to do this this hack. Yeah, but I No No, Amazon does not want people changing that at the moment at least did you get it from Amazon? and on Sunday we'll have Maybe some tech news you never know hey after all I am the pod father Coming to you from downtown Austin Tejas in the skyscraper where I inhabit the crackpot condo FEMA region 6 in the morning everybody my name is Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where we currently at the very end of the show opened up a can of worms I'm John C. Dvorak we'll be back on Sunday right here on NO Agenda adios mofos

CHAPTER 38 / 38 Discussion

Diversity or War, European Future, Show Outro

The episode concludes with a remix of a speech by EU official Frans Timmermans regarding the inevitability of diversity in Europe. The audio montage repeats the phrase "Diversity or War" as a commentary on the current geopolitical direction of the continent. The hosts sign off, directing listeners to the show's website for the next scheduled broadcast.

diversity· europe· destiny· frans timmermans· outro

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2:50:35 Diversity is now in some parts of Europe seen as a threat. Diversity comes with challenges, but diversity is humanity's destiny.

2:51:15 There is not going to be even in the remotest places of this planet a nation that will not Seek diversity in its future. That's where humanity is heading those politicians trying to sell to their electors a society that is exclusively composed of people from one culture are trying to portray a future based on a past that never existed. Therefore, that future will never be. Diversity or war. Diversity or die. Diversity or war. Diversity or war. Diversity or die. Diversity or war. Diversity or die. We'll be diverse.

2:52:22 Like all other parts of the world we are rediverse. The only question is how do we deal with that diversity? Destiny. Destiny. Destiny. My answer to that is by just determining them and not giving up our values to refute and bring us down. War. Diversity. War. Diversity. War. War. Diversity. War. Die. Diversity. Diversity.

2:53:39 If we don't get this right, I truly believe, remain the Europe we've built. Europe will not remain a place of peace and freedom for very long. Europe will be diverse. Destiny. Destiny. Destiny. Destiny. Europe will be diverse. Destiny. Destiny. Destiny. Destiny. Destiny. Europe will be diverse, like all other parts of the world. Destiny. Destiny. Destiny. Destiny. Europe will be diverse.

2:54:34 You might die. We're all gonna die! Nothing could be finer than to be in my vagina in the morning. Adios, mofo. Amen, fist bump. He wins, he wins, he wins, he wins.

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