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00:00 If I was, man. I'd be a lot different on this show! Adam Curry John C Devorah It's Thursday March 24th 2016 and time once again for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 810 This is no agenda Burring through the Belgian rabbit holes because I speak the language and broadcasting live from the capital of drone star state here in FEMA region 6 in The morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where it's gonna be a scorcher Show should be too. I'm John C Dvorak Somehow you just can't pull it off, you know when you try to do the yelling announcer voice It just doesn't work with you

00:39 Not a yelling announcer. Yeah, no I am that's yes you are you are a yelling announcer That is true yeah And I do that because I figure if people are gonna listen to this show like oh I feel comfortable It's someone yelling at me just like news television. Oh my god the news guys now. I should lose all the top Broadcast and network has all yelled. I should listen What a week what a week I spent most of my time logged into VPNs watching Belgian news, Dutch news. A lot of RTL much better than our counterparts here in the United States. When did this happen? Monday Tuesday Tuesday Tuesday This Brussels thing? Yeah and what happened there...

01:33 Was watching MSNBC and everyone's you know they're just replaying this these street scenes on loops And it says live that it says live is crazy, and it says live live live But yeah you switch over to the Belgian TV. They're all do what they're already doing analysis as dark Let's make something clear here when it's like 3 in the afternoon here and they're showing a live feed and it's daylight. It's crazy, somethings up! Yeah... Well I'm sad that we predicted all this Yeah, there's been discrepancies about the predictions and I'll credit you with the prediction. But you said it that you predicted this was going to happen in Holland... Well there are a couple of things. You've been saying for years what about the unprotected area of airline airports? That being you many... And we should have... And this happened! Do you recall it happened? Was it a German airport?

02:36 Or maybe it was a Scandinavian airport with some guys. No, I don't think anyone's really hurt but they blew up some stuff inside the passenger terminal? Yeah A couple years ago But i have had a bad feeling about Brussels for years and I think we've talked about it for years on this show Yes we have talked about it because it is a wide open possibility And I lived in Belgium So I have little bit of standing But I picked up this In re-listening To 808, 809. I picked up this little clip which this is really what i think Is important of what's going on here? This is just before and don't respond to me John because I'm not really talking to you This is just before that the so-called deal was struck Erdogan kicking it up in Turkey as turkey's prime minister meets EU leaders in brussels there is fighting talk from the country's president fighting talk

03:26 Fighting talk. Recep Tayyip Erdogan has warned EU leaders to consider their own record on migrants before trying to tell Ankara what to do His country will only listen to external criticism on its rights record when the comments are justified, he says The bombs we've had in Ankara could easily go off in Brussels Supporters of the PKK are allowed to demonstrate And that bell ringing was from the last show not just now And that's exactly what happened a day later, or two days later. Hmm... Yeah there was a couple of things that I caught that were kind of interesting

04:07 One of them I wanted to put off a little bit because apparently Erdogan had, or the Turks. I'm not sure who amongst them had warned the Belgians about this one guy. Well okay then let me give you the background because i've been deep inside of this Here we go. That's the Dutch connection, which is even more interesting." The man wearing the hat on the CCTV image is still being sought while Ibrahim El-Bakrawi seen in the middle has been named as the first airport suicide bomber Turkey claims its authorities deported him in 2015 We informed the Belgian embassy about the deportation on July 14th 2015 said the Turkish president

04:53 The Belgian authorities released him. Despite our warnings that this person is a foreign fighter, Belgium could not establish any links with terrorism." The Belgian justice minister has denied the claim. He says the suspect was known as a criminal but not for terrorist acts Adding that he was sent to the Netherlands not Belgium This is what I've come to know since the announcement. It definitely wasn't an extradition He said this was something else entirely as a case of someone being sent back from the Syrian border Someone who wasn't known to us at the time for terrorism So this, of course is the big converse? I went to sleep last night listening to Dutch news talk radio has been so fascinating to get some actual information

05:36 Thank God I speak the language. Can you imagine how much we're missing from these world events, John? It's unbelievable. So poor journalism here! Yeah well it'd be nice to speak Turkey. Well so let me just explain briefly what happened here... Can I add a little clip to that clip? Yeah sure. Play this clip because this is who i was listening to this discussion too and then this clip showed up out of the blue And I think it was on, uh... not sure where. And i think it was on Deutsche Welle This is the odd clip Turkey and Holland in Belgium play that clip Okay yeah, I got some background on this The second is Ibrahim El-Bakrawy

06:12 He was reportedly arrested in Turkey last June. A month later, he was deported according to the Turkish president. Even Holland is involved in this issue on the attacker's request we reported him to Holland and we informed them with a diplomatic note too. On the attacker's request? Yeah so the attacker There's a couple of things we need to talk about this. But first, what happened? This was a guy who was living in the Netherlands and I believe he is originally from Moroccan descent not sure yet because all these guys are now being... In Holland at least in the local press are being called out they say they were part of the Moroccan Mafia which is a well-known entity in the Benelux in general but probably in all of Western Europe

07:02 And they're, you know... it's a mafia. Corruption, crime, grand theft etc and these guys had been apprehended by the Belgian authorities in the past but this guy was Dutch had left to go to Syria through Turkey got stopped at the border and sent back and the Dutch went oh hey thanks! Hi! Hey! You gotta bike while you're at it? And they let him go. Now, the thing you need to know about the Dutch and Turkey—and this is ongoing for years... This is part of what I lost my job over — it is extremely possible and strongly alleged that because of this

07:47 the pedo bear guy who was the highest in Dutch, uh, just in the Dutch justice system. He was the top dog kind of like the attorney general and he is now... He's retired long since retired but you know there was all this stuff an ongoing court case about him abusing Turkish children and that there's a couple people in jail in The Netherlands who've been sent there by Turkey for everything we can see, are political prisoners. So the assumption is because of this child abuse stuff which has been... and if you look at all the... Joris Demink is what you need to look up and you'll find enough information about it The thinking here is that the Dutch justice system has been completely corrupted co-opted as being blackmailed by the Turkish government And this is about Baybizan is the guy's name who was in jail

08:42 So you can't trust the Dutch justice system and the Turks in this case. And the population of The Netherlands is beside themselves, how could you let this guy go? You let him go! He came back he was a known fighter or trying to get training trying to get into Syria through Turkey and they sent him back like okay whatever now now... This is big political issues are cropping up now with And of course, the mafia thing is interesting because or whatever that mafia is called. The Morock Mafia they call it.

09:25 There was a couple of guys, some of the best analysis was on Democracy Now. I don't have a lot of clips. They have one because it's better to summarize. They had this number of people that claim that these...this particular group of people were criminals. They never called out the Moroccan mafia about it but they said there were criminals and they got radicalized in prison which is where most of these guys get radicalized. And it's not like the normal route to radicalization, but there was this one guy who came on... Let's see. This is a clip I just thought this was an interesting clip because it was so off the wall and has to do with these uh.. The way that these cells are organized and the kind of people that are behind them. Let's see what we got here. Belgians late for the party back in... Look for something that says DN on it

10:21 Oh, I got it. The odd man out theory? Yeah the odd man out theory this guy wrote a book and he's been following this by going back and re-examining the investigations that were done by the Europeans And this little ditty may play into your thing somehow At the time he was Buzzfeed News Michael Hastings fellow Well, what did they miss? the description of it, the reporting on it, the way that the prosecutor talked about it fit with a pattern we tend to hear about these raids. Somebody who's a psychopath of some sort who goes to Syria and returns back to Brussels he is very Islamist radical and wants to blow himself up and kill everyone And that made some sense but there was a third guy in that house

11:21 And they grouped him together in that category, but he didn't really fit there. He seemed to be someone who—he had never gone to Syria. Everyone I met said he wasn't radicalized at all. Some people said he may have had no idea what he was doing there. But I think more likely— And this was which raid? This was a raid in a town called Verviers where they killed everyone except him and this guy jumped out the window, and the prosecutor conceded that he didn't seem prepared to die like the other two. And they killed everyone in a fierce firefight? Really—I mean, you may have heard about the firefight in Saint-Denis after the attacks in Paris. It was exactly the same thing. I mean it was many minutes long battle. But this is after Charlie Hebdo. This is after Charlie Hebdo so much earlier. What I realize is that people like this guy seem to exist—they come up all of time on these attacks. They're people who

12:07 play kind of smaller support roles, who have connections to the people who we think of as the terrorists through childhood, through growing up in the neighborhoods together, through petty criminality. But they aren't terrorists in a way that we think of it and if we realize that actually those are the people we need to focus on helps us understand that the foundation for terrorism structure that exists in cities like Brussels and Paris of people going abroad coming back maybe much more mundane than the sort of high rhetoric we hear about people trying to defeat democracy and they hate our freedoms and things like that. It's actually people who exist within a sort of lower spectrum of local grievances, and criminality, and things that actually are maybe easier to deal with but also more complicated to try to understand. Yeah I'll agree with some of what he is saying in this goes to what

12:57 I've been saying since the beginning of the show, because I grew up in the Netherlands. I lived there and went back in 2000 and we saw what was happening and we were told this was not going to end well primarily by Pim Fortuyn and Theo van Gogh both assassinated. And Pim Fortuyen about to win the Dutch elections a week before... He won them posthumously a week before he was assassinated Americans have a unique perspective on this. Although, when I look at the face bags, I'm sad because I think a lot of that perspective has been lost but... What you see is nothing but sadness and this no one's allowed to be angry No, one's you know the the big symbol now I guess is that the two cartoon characters with the French? Cartoon character or the Belgian cartoon character with the flags draped over their shoulders and they're crying together This is very much the mentality in Europe. And if this ghettoization has been going on for almost two decades

13:59 and you can't say anything about it because then you're a racist. And here we are, and still! It's like well... Actually I cut this just before we started the show Let me see if i can find the crazy... This was from one year ago One year ago today we played this on the show Marie Harf then spoke whole for the State Department went on the Think MSNBC and here's what she said about the problem with these jihadists. Well I think there are a few stages here, right now what we're doing is trying to take their leaders and fighters off the battlefield in Iraq and Syria that really where they flourish Are we killing enough of them? We're killing alot of them!

14:46 more of them. So are the Egyptians, so are the Jordanians... That by the way is American spirit! They're in this fight with us but we cannot win this war by killing them We cannot kill our way out of this war. We need in the longer term medium and longer term to go after the root causes that leads people to join these groups whether it's lack of opportunity for jobs or whether... We'r not going be able to stop that in our lifetime Remember that? Jobs they have no jobs yeah the old jobs cleaning up rubble at jobs now MSNBC had a new dude on And this was an interesting guy, his name... maybe they mentioned it in the clip. This guy total spook I've never seen him before i don't know if he's a regular on MSNBC but he's a spook and he comes kind of close to I think nailing it and quick clip here Oh we want to bring in our terrorism analyst Evan Coleman Evan is Evan Coleman Georgetown University FBI you know this is one of those guys checklist checklist spook ambassador it was like we got anyone left

15:40 Someone left, let me look at the list. Oh yeah this guy will do it. He said he feels this is the end point of a very difficult road Would you agree with that? We were talking earlier and you had a little bit of different take Yeah I disagree for two reasons Number one we don't know if this is the end to this network We don't even know for sure that this is the same network as was involved in France And I think- Is she talking about MSNBC Exactly. This horrible terrorist network MSNBC and even if this is the same network and even if all the members are now hold on I thought it was on CNN dead or arrested or under scrutiny? This is just the beginning because we have to get to the root causes of why this happened And those causes have not been dealt with there are international causes, and there are local causes of course international cause There has been a war going on in Syria Iraq now for

14:46 more of them. So are the Egyptians, so are the Jordanians... That by the way is American spirit! They're in this fight with us but we cannot win this war by killing them We cannot kill our way out of this war. We need in the longer term medium and longer term to go after the root causes that leads people to join these groups whether it's lack of opportunity for jobs or whether... We'r not going be able to stop that in our lifetime Remember that? Jobs they have no jobs yeah the old jobs cleaning up rubble at jobs now MSNBC had a new dude on And this was an interesting guy, his name... maybe they mentioned it in the clip. This guy total spook I've never seen him before i don't know if he's a regular on MSNBC but he's a spook and he comes kind of close to I think nailing it and quick clip here Oh we want to bring in our terrorism analyst Evan Coleman Evan is Evan Coleman Georgetown University FBI you know this is one of those guys checklist checklist spook ambassador it was like we got anyone left

15:40 Someone left, let me look at the list. Oh yeah this guy will do it. He said he feels this is the end point of a very difficult road Would you agree with that? We were talking earlier and you had a little bit of different take Yeah I disagree for two reasons Number one we don't know if this is the end to this network We don't even know for sure that this is the same network as was involved in France And I think- Is she talking about MSNBC Exactly. This horrible terrorist network MSNBC and even if this is the same network and even if all the members are now hold on I thought it was on CNN dead or arrested or under scrutiny? This is just the beginning because we have to get to the root causes of why this happened And those causes have not been dealt with there are international causes, and there are local causes of course international cause There has been a war going on in Syria Iraq now for

16:28 going on five years and that war in addition to killing hundreds of thousands of Syrians is now coming in the form of blowback to us here in the West. The second issue is more local concerns right? Why is it that Muslims and other immigrants in Belgium have such a problem integrating with local society yeah why is it they do not feel like they are Belgian, why is it that they are ghettoized It's called the multicultural society. It was the big drive

17:13 starting around 95, and these are not immigration countries. That's why it doesn't work! The people don't know how to do this. The populations of Western Europe don't really understand that this wave of immigrants does not want to change. So its a systemic problem. Well one analyst that was on the Democracy Now show which they went over this He says and I think this is reiterated in one of the clips. I'll play later

17:50 It's like our country, we're kind of bent over backwards to get people to integrate. We're an immigration country. We started on immigration. Yes, so we kinda understand this. Yeah. And so okay whatever go ahead and do your own thing but then since they are in this culture... But there is an important difference John when you come to America as a immigrant you better find something to do pretty quick You're gonna be hungry. In Europe, in the Netherlands is what I know they come in oh here's my friend my buddy over here okay tell me what to do? I go over this window okay and then what I get 600 euros okay I got six kids okay I get 200 per kid per month you know when there's free money then there's no incentive! And that's changing sadly dramatically in our country but okay

18:48 That is why. Why would I change? I go in there, get money free money, hang out drink tea do whatever I want. Yeah that's a huge difference and...I love these events but you always have to be clipping stuff right at the beginning because all kinds of little bits of information you pick up everywhere By a strange coincidence the current TSA chief Admiral Peter Neffinger was in Brussels today meeting with his European counterparts when the attacks happened Homeland security today is once again reminding everyone at the airport who works here or travels through an airport, if you see something that's out of the ordinary say something. Nice coincidence just coincidence he was in Brussels now what I would bothered me early on watching this and we all awoke to it is the almost like CSI Miami but just CSI in general

19:44 Well, it looks like his DNA connects to the Paris attacks. This is the guy they arrested Abul Saad Addisblan Addislan Baba Baba Baba listen on that guy I know what you're gonna say and I feel exactly the same way And but I think they made true false indifferent rumor however However news organizations were able to report these unknown sources Judge Napolitano nailed it. I think it's a catastrophic mistake now of course we have the benefit of hindsight but but think about this he is being interrogated by Brussels investigators, Brussels magistrates sort of across between the prosecutor and a judge

20:27 French interrogators and French magistrates, and they are revealing to the press what he's telling them as he is telling it to them in real time. What is this? It's a dog whistle! It's a sub-Rosa signal to his confederates in Brussels it's time for you to get out created diversion so that you can get out now if the fbi began to reveal intelligence as it was getting in during an interrogation the agents would be fired and might even be prosecuted for obstructing justice this was a catastrophic mistake

21:07 he used them to send these signals out there. Why? They even revealed that he told them, he wants to sue whoever's leaking about his interrogation He doesn't want to sue that person by the way such a lawsuit I'm sorry to tell you would be proper in the European Union. He doesn't want to sue them for this! He is using them to get this information out there There are lot of other issues about the weakness of Belgian police and intelligence services not even knowing what's going on under their noses. But this behavior, quite frankly is unprecedented Stuart I can't think of an example in which interrogators are revealing in real time what the person they're interrogating is telling them to an international press corps." And just before I started the show there was news that uh... The guy now has no long he's refusing to speak

21:58 He doesn't want nothing left to say. The job's done! Who is running this show? I think Napolitano nails it on that. Of course, it's so stupid! Why don't you know if its true or not? Well the other thing is you don't know what's true because this idea that they got DNA results from an ex...guy has been blowed up and then they're finding DNA all over the apartment It takes longer than...what kind of a lab do they have that can get instant DNA results This again, this is CIS bull crap I mean, I like to contrast this with something like 10 or 20 or more thousand rape kits in the United States that haven't been processed. To the point where they're now throwing them away because of DNA slowdown? Yeah, because there's no way they can... It takes a while do these tests and then aren't even bothering with the rape kits anymore. There was a huge scandal going on about that. Of course you never want to let a good crisis go to waste

23:02 Because everyone's crazy upside down and all emotional. Let's slip in something to scare people I wonder who is behind this ditty? Security has been stepped up at nuclear plants around Belgium amid fears they could be the next target after the Brussels bombings The alert follows the discovery of secret footage of a senior Belgian official who works at one of the plants in the Belgium flat, and one of the suspects linked to last year's Paris terror attacks. Non-essential staff at the Dole and Thiernes plants have been sent home although key staff will remain in order to ensure that the plants continue to operate There are also concerns that vetting procedures for staff may not be sufficiently rigorous

23:43 It's understood that one of the accused in the Sharia for Belgium trial in Antwerp, who is currently fighting in Syria had been a technician at the Dole plant for three years. There you go! We should shut down nuclear power plants Better better be safe than sorry. Better safe than sorry Yeah, I'd better be safe than sorry of course over at Starfleet command they also are taking advantage of the crisis to integrate Europe even more French Prime Minister Manuel Valls joins his Belgian counterpart Charles Michel and the president of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker as they pause to pay respects that the Malbec metro station in Brussels

24:23 Shortly afterwards, both spoke up about the need to work together for the security of Europe. Valls renewed France's calls for a passenger name record system to be set-up for European air travel. I reiterated the urgent need to better fight arms trafficking, the need to adopt a European PNR system to enable the tracking of terrorists' movements." Younger to called for Europe wide cooperation We also think we need to work together towards unified security The Commission has proposed all the constituent elements for such a union of security Let me see, we have the banking Union Uh-huh. We have let's see now. We've got the Security Union everything is in place to get that one European you what does that like an army?

25:18 Army would be a good idea. I thought they promised there would never be a European Union army No, no your play this clip Belgians late to the party PBS lead-in Well, yeah. I think the Belgians in particular have a problem and they're very aware of it and we're often saying these days that you are only as strong as your weakest link In the case of Belgium, it's got a fairly small police force If they have 100, by conservative estimates about 100 ISIS veterans have returned to that country alone, just so the manpower involved in conducting surveillance and watching all these people, watching their phone calls and conversations—it sort of taxes their police forces beyond the capability, let alone the problem of dealing with counter-riotalization. And just all the tracking and surveillance they need to be doing. So yeah, they have a problem there. They have a problem with coordinating with other agencies and other governments. And so yeah, that's a huge problem for them.

26:14 And they think they really are aware of this now, but it's kind of late to the party. Yeah because Europeans will not... They'll just shut up and be like oh just be quiet don't say anything. Late to the party? The public doesn't help! The public does not help law enforcement. It's just a culture Richard Engel. I love it when that guy shows up. Oh, Richard Engel! The other guy in this spectrum... you've got the Richard Engle clip and I've got the Brian Ross clip. Oh beautiful. All right. Richard Engel of course a liar we saw him in Russia pretending to be hacked. He was almost kidnapped. Oh he was almost kidnapped? This guy has Peabody awards, he's got all kinds of journalistic awards but he's a liar

27:05 And he's a spook. Well, okay well that what spooks do and his report was genius for so many reasons So far there has been one claim of responsibility from ISIS we have not verified it yet but what we have seen is many ISIS supporters online on Facebook on different social media platforms celebrating this attack cheering this attack So now this immediately was like, oh wow. The craziness doing that proof and you know it sounds like Trump with his Muslims cheering on the roof. The local story from Breda which is just about I don't know 25 minutes north of the Belgian border a teacher tweeted he said how can I still teach? A class when all the kids in the class are applauding the attack in Brussels

28:01 Because Breda has a very big Muslim population. So that was his tweet then later he tweets I tweeted this something about my classroom this morning and The next day there were three police officers at my doorstep saying yeah You have to delete that and you cannot talk about that on social media Where'd you get that one? It's Dutch local paper, the Dutch papers. That would be clip of the day! Dutch papers yeah. Fortunately nobody covers it. Now Engel... So what are you gonna do? You can't make a clip if there is no clip. Now Engel goes on ISIS had been actually weakened just as of yesterday or few days ago their number of tweets was at an all-time low Oh No!!!

28:52 Oh no, ISIS is weakened because their tweets are at an all-time low. Well that's a definite indication of weakness. It says some more like this... Hello? Muhammad! Muhammad! Muhammad! Hello? Hello? Muhammad?! Yo We don't have enough tweets What are you doing with your tweets? Oh hey crank up the tweet you idiot! We look down we look like we're down we look weak we look weak we have no tweets Is that now how we, is that how the US government is evaluating the strength of ISIS? Is by the volume of tweets? Especially how can you make that claim when you have just had a sweep.

29:33 on twitter of anyone who says anything, they delete their account. Just as of yesterday or a few days ago their number of tweets was at an all time low That's some Peabody journalism right there everybody Some might interpret this is way for ISIS to show that it is back back. It is strong, it has recovered. Tweets down light up the train station from territorial losses and personnel losses that the group has been suffering in Iraq and Syria This was an interest down light blow up a thing because what are we gonna? Do we're losing our tweet or tweet? Our tweet volume by tweet volume. We haven't we don't have good engagement tweet No, John just we have our engagement is down I

30:23 That's the truth, engagement is down. Now this meme of well you know they're really actually quite weak this is just you know the last dead cat bounce or whatever you want to call it the last jerk motions from ISIS because they're really almost gone according to the US government They have threatened Western targets now for... This of course is Kirby who went on live with MSNBC. Of course, MSNBC is worth watching now that Brian Williams is back on during breaking news. They have threatened Western targets now for a long long time and it's a threat that we are all too familiar with sadly and trying to better prepare ourselves for I will tell you though that one thing I think is important remember this group Dash again

31:08 not saying that they are responsible for this, but they are under increasing pressure in Iraq and Syria. And we are seeing them resort to more traditional terrorist tactics like suicide bombings and car bombs car bombs and those kinds of things because they aren't able to hold and grab the territory they once were. Because they are suffering a lot of hits to their resources, they're having trouble recruiting, they're losing lots of defectors now in ways that weren't before. They're even hiring now child soldiers to go into the field with their adult male fighters so this is a group that is not operating at all the way-

31:45 He says hiring and they're hiring them the adult male traders. So he said a trader's I think trade child You know adult male fighters so this is a group that is not operating at all the way it used to and we think that one of the reasons why but he did say hiring didn't he yeah, you're starting to see more of these kinds of attacks even in Baghdad because this group is under some pressure Yes, but it's terrorism. We have NYPD with automatic weapons outside this building in New York City and outside subway stations and train stations and airports and city upon city across the country because it is terrorism so they may be on the run. They maybe hiring... He's doing right thing what are you talking about? It's less!

32:34 Anti-terrorism troops in New York City. How can you say this is less? How can you say we're winning child warriors, but it is a gruesomely effective line of work Oh and there's no argument with that Brian And we would not were not dismissing at all the violence that these people are capable of or the danger that they represent Not just in the region But to our allies and partners in Europe and frankly even here at home yeah okay Thank You I have a quick question just kind of a little bit off mm-hmm when that guy one of the group before there supposedly did this damage and Belt Brussels one of them blew up by train at the metro station Why didn't it we it's almost like right across the street from the headquarters? It's right around the corner. Yeah, you're right on the car What is just wander over there and walk into the lobby yeah, and blow it up Good question

33:30 I have no idea. It would have more impact on the EU, that's what... Well no John, let's step back for one second and let's see what is really happening here. Now i have been able to view the Turkey-EU deal so the turkey-eu deal is key in this I believe this is just at just the beginning The 3 billion euros that is going to be sent to Turkey is an annual fee, it turns out. So every year you send three billion euros to Turkey to Erdogan and say hey keep those guys in there yeah? And of course use this money to feed them but I think 10% is okay the lop off the top quite honestly don't you think? You get three billion? Well if you're Erdogan you probably want 20. Well yeah take three to six hundred million

34:19 Euros, and then it's already started. Greece can start sending people back but here is what interesting... Then Turkey will send back Syrians to be assimilated into Europe Now we know that there are at least three passport printing presses from Syria with blank passports in Turkey So they can pretty much vet whoever they want send them over. Yeah, and you know it's almost like hey that guy over there send him back He said dud I got a new guy here take this guy he's better. He's much better does no one see this

34:56 Does no one see that this is... and oh, and then once everything starts blowing up we'll have visa-free travel into the EU so we can all just go in. The idea of the Ottoman Empire is not dead and anyone who thinks Erdogan is not thinking that way is fooling themselves but it's so... It's an arachnid... uh what's the word? I don't know An arach... an arachni... What? Arachnonism Anachronism. Thank you. You're talking about spiders? Their thinking is an anachronism, they don't think in kind of old terms of what has been going on for centuries over a thousand years and just listen to the guy! Listen to him he's standing up there yelling like crazy but no... He's yelling like a madman yeah now at the State Department of course this is the

35:47 the odd part of what's happening is we have a version of this European niceness over us that...we don't want to offend anybody. This is what we've been talking about for years on our show, but well, don't offend anybody everybody wins just be nice! Don't be like that! Yeah share a secret please yeah let's all just share a secret but whatever you do don't say it's about religion Now on one hand I hear even the president saying they hijacked a religion, this is you know all these so but you still can't say radical Islamic.

34:56 Does no one see that this is... and oh, and then once everything starts blowing up we'll have visa-free travel into the EU so we can all just go in. The idea of the Ottoman Empire is not dead and anyone who thinks Erdogan is not thinking that way is fooling themselves but it's so... It's an arachnid... uh what's the word? I don't know An arach... an arachni... What? Arachnonism Anachronism. Thank you. You're talking about spiders? Their thinking is an anachronism, they don't think in kind of old terms of what has been going on for centuries over a thousand years and just listen to the guy! Listen to him he's standing up there yelling like crazy but no... He's yelling like a madman yeah now at the State Department of course this is the

35:47 the odd part of what's happening is we have a version of this European niceness over us that...we don't want to offend anybody. This is what we've been talking about for years on our show, but well, don't offend anybody everybody wins just be nice! Don't be like that! Yeah share a secret please yeah let's all just share a secret but whatever you do don't say it's about religion Now on one hand I hear even the president saying they hijacked a religion, this is you know all these so but you still can't say radical Islamic.

36:25 terrorist or Islamist terror. You can't say that and the State Department this came up in Kirby Donald Trump was very quick to tweet about how this shows there's a problem with the Muslims as he puts it I mean when he does that is the sort of front-runner for our major party, does it undermine the diplomatic work you're trying to do? This isn't about...this isn't about a religion This is about a warped and brutal, depraved ideology. What's the difference? Ideology versus religion? Is that a huge difference? Well technically I think you can make the case that there is... Okay But not when it's wrapped up in religious interpretation

37:13 Before having a real problem just saying what it is and I'll go with the they hijack the religion. I'll go with that But it's just we have to What your bitch about not gonna happen why no this is going to continue until the Europeans all become Muslim That's what it seems like yeah, and that's what gets worried did this was by the way? I had a Just before 9-11. I put up a site called Jihad or something and it was a, they had all kinds of cool links. This was in 2002 And a couple of things, one of the things I really...which again is one of those situations where you see something online and you don't save it immediately. There was a website that showed the progression of how the different countries in the world were all going to become Muslims for one grand ummah. They had France going first and then England was gonna be next and they had all these different countries becoming Muslim

38:13 And it was called the United Muslim World, Muslim something. And they had the United States where we're on the list too but were way back on that word you know Europe was completely taken over before that happened and I just said that was really interesting and i would have been a funny map to still have I sure did somebody's got an archive of it somewhere but okay well We have to admit this is there is a religious element of this? Yeah Yeah, and when you have the kids cheering in the classroom... And then the cops coming over to tell ya to knock it off by mentioning it. This is a problem! You can just see this, y'know? It's gonna continue to be a problem until they put the kibosh on it. Well Hillary Clinton had a long meeting

39:02 Because on Tuesday morning everyone called Trump right away, and we'll get into that well before we go over there Let's get a couple of these other clips out of the way since you play. You got to play I just like it to play Brian Ross. Just want to wrap up what I was saying about The nomenclature with a quick Clinton clip. We need a commander-in-chief that defends America and defending America means defeating radical Islamic terrorism and defeating ISIS what is... That's obviously not her but it's coming. Is Barack Obama Hillary Clinton? Yeah, it's coming as a setup for the clip of refusing even to say the words radical Islamic terrorism. There you go, all right go ahead and respond to the senator well that's a long debate that people like him try to stir up uh...you know I call it radical jihadist terrorism because how long was the meeting? we've gotta say something! How about radical jihadist terrorism yeah that'll do it that will fool them

39:57 How dumb do they think everyone is? Very dumb. Radical Jihad. She was at Stanford, and I got a couple of clips from her before I go on my Brian Ross thing you've made me distracted now. Sorry! She is at Stanford...I have two clips one of them is Here's this is Clinton at Stanford. I does it's a short clip and I want to comment on it But listen, here's what? I want you to listen for she this is Hillary on a prompter Uh-huh She's not a good prompter reader. She's very unnatural You just played was her talking about the top off the cuff That's the way she sounds when she talks right when she talks from a prompter she talks in

40:37 She reads, but he has emotionless reading from... and she reads like word at a time. And this is where I get a lot of her word at times It's the worst part, and here's what the worst part is Unfortunately we don't have video for this but she looks..she tries to do what Obama has given up on Now, good prompter readers and I've read from prompters on... My career was based on being able to float in and out of the prompter copy. Yeah but yeah and i'm talking about the live prompter reading front of an audience? Yeah! I've done that Okay well so you have two prompters usually Yes, 2 glass slabs And then a real good setup You got 2 glass prompters one on left and one back in middle And 1 in the back in the middle and you can always go to that

41:27 Obama does this and I think most good prompter readers do it. You give up on going off-prompter, you just get good at reading prompter copy so you sound natural and you never remove yourself from the prompter. Right well that depends but okay yeah no i'm just saying this is what obama does And this is what a lot of people do because if you don't do that And you do what Hillary tries to do. You'll get messed up and then the prompter operators know where you're at, and they roll up, roll down... She's looking over here and then she can see her tag go to the prompter and she tags the prompter. Anyone who gets a few minutes...

42:08 She goes and looks right at it, and then starts reading. And then she tries to move around to be more natural... Oh! And she almost like turns her head violently and tags the prompter. And she's looking at it again. It's terrible. She stinks. This is what she sounds like. They are fighting against radical jihadism We have to do what actually works. One thing we know that does not work is offensive, inflammatory rhetoric that demonizes all Muslims. There are millions of peace-loving Muslims living, working, raising families and paying taxes in this country

42:49 These Americans are a crucial line of defense against terrorism. They are the most likely to recognize the warning signs of radicalization before it's too late and the best positioned to block it, so when Republican candidates like Ted Cruz call for treating American Muslims like criminals and for racially profiling predominantly Muslim neighborhoods, It's counterproductive. It's dangerous She has like no emotion No life to the reed she was trying to do something with that I believe that she was trying To be statesman like that was my take on it when I saw it My take on it was this is the best she can do Yeah, in fact they had her on the local news there's another clip but before you go So what I'm missing from that? That would be great in Europe Europe loves that kind of speech

43:48 America just wants to hear, hey I'm going to take care of this crap. Be right back! That's what we like here. Essentially with our local station had that speech and they let her talk for a couple words and then the guy, the local news guy had to summarize what she said because it was so dull. Clinton droning Our enemies are constantly adapting so we have to do the same for example Brussels demonstrated clearly we need to take

44:26 Obama was better than this. When Obama, here's Obama when he is going after someone who is hurting people in the world. There isn't need for a rescue mission when the world is threatened and the world needs help it calls on America. And that's the story See? That's what Merica wants! We can even make Obama sound good. She has a horrible... But did you know I noticed something very specific that happened immediately

45:22 All the Muslim hate and the horrible, ah, the Muslim hate all went to Ted Cruz! All of a sudden he's Mr. Anti-Muslim instead of Trump! I saw this, here is the view. Here is how Ted Cruz who was a candidate for the presidency says that this is how he wants to handle the terror threat He wants police in his country to patrol Muslim neighborhoods Come on right but this isn't an example of anti-muslim is not helping the situation We need to take a long view of terrorism These people...I don't even know why they're know why they want to kill us anymore. They just want to kill people and the main thing you have to stop doing is recruiting new people otherwise there is no end to this and all of this hate speech against Muslim helps to recruit people but that's the bottom line Ted Cruz is now getting the rap

46:10 instead of Donald Trump, for being the guy who's inciting all of this Muslim hatred. Gayle King CBS with Charlie Rose How about this point of view? There are so many people that say that your comments are decidedly anti-Muslim and that you're playing right into the hands of ISIS That they're giving them ammunition to come after us To really take action against us Then you're just teeing it up for people to come after us Gayle with all respect People are fed up with the political correctness of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Yeah, and then we have Anderson Cooper who even turns internment camps over to Ted Cruz's turf? So the question though is what do you mean by empowering law enforcement to patrol insecure Muslim neighborhoods before they become radicalized as you probably know The Anti-Defamation League has put out a statement saying demonizing all Muslims is a misguided counterproductive response to terrorist threat

47:07 posed by those motivated by a radical interpretation of Islam. It's an irrational approach, harkens back to the fear and bigotry that led to the dark and tragic chapter in American history, the relocation more than 100,000 Japanese to internment camps." That does not mean targeting Muslims, it means targeting radical Islamic terrorism. And I'm not disagreeing with what he's saying but he is getting nailed for it now! You ask me what that means? Mayor Bloomberg in New York had a very successful program to engage with the Muslim community and to prevent radicalization, and to identify radical Islamic terrorists before they carry out acts of terrorism. Mayor de Blasio came in and ended that program said we're no longer going to do so That was foolishness! That was political correctness run amok!

47:59 Got it. No do you have the Bratton clip no I wish I had gotten it I forgot I do have a missed I have two longer clips well Bratton comes out he's the police chief in New York Right, he's the one who and he does exactly like these other guys only he taught. He died damn it pisses me off I didn't get the clip he tops it by saying By naming Cruz is the guy who was inciting this? He's saying this type of policing didn't work here And it won't work anywhere and he says and then he says and besides Ted Cruz is not going to be president Really

48:38 So Cruz is getting the rap now, but I'll the question is how did this happen? Well, I need well. I need to yes Okay by needed hell froze over John that I woke up and hell had frozen over I could not believe what I was seeing my mouth fell open it was a 15 minute piece I chopped it down before its long But I think you will enjoy the view the morning that this became known. Are you sitting down? Because you will need to sit down I'm sitting down here. I have to tell you, I woke up this morning and saw the news and got sick to my stomach And a reminder that this is the program that I believe A lot of American women watch To understand what's happening in their world It is very popular program

49:27 Then there's a broad scala on women there. We have little Raven-Symoné from the Cosby kids, we've got... There is a very broad scala of women. Also that this is continuing to go on and play us... Hold on a second! A broad what? Scala Scala? Yes. When have you ever used that word in your life? Uh, it's a... I think it's Dutch. The Dutch use it a lot instead of saying spectrum they say scala Oh okay It's a- I never heard it before I think it's the proper use of the word Well might be, I don't know, I never heard the word Well then stop the show Stop the show Alright everybody let's uh we're gonna take five We'll just stop and talk for a minute to check on some words Okay

50:12 And the word... The word is Scala. Let us look up Scala! Okay, Scala we have A machine formerly employed for reducing dislocation of the numerous or a term applied to any one of three canals of the cochlea Well I guess uh..I have no idea what i'm talking about The word Scala is wrong Alright everybody we've cleared that out and ready to go That this is continuing to go on and plague us. There's no end in sight what's going on in this world Did you have a similar reaction? I've been saying this for awhile It's not official obviously for the government to say but we're kind of a World War situation Yeah, it's everywhere and we need to definitely see what's going on and what's coming out our mouths To fuel the fire And people have been saying that You hear that? What's coming out of our mouths So now- This is very important This is being said over and over again

51:13 It's what is coming out of our mouths that is making them do that. We, the people who say anything negative about Islam or Muslims... We the people are at fault. This is the continuing, we're just whipping ourselves like oh it's our fault It's our fault What's coming out of our mouths to fuel the fire and people have been saying that for a long time that we are At war with With what? I don't want to say at war with The Islamic faith but we certainly are in a war with terror This is what the frontrunner of the Republican Party had to say Donald Trump watch

51:48 Well, I'd be hitting ISIS so hard and I was not in favor of Iraq And I was not in favor of a lot of things but with Isis With the chopping off of the heads and this is Isis related as of course You've got to hit Isis so hard and you've got to take them out and Not play tiddlywinks like we're playing right now. I would use maximum maximum interrogation technique I would use waterboarding and I would try and expand the laws So we can go beyond what a boarding now that's pretty much Trump That's what he says all the time. It's what he has been saying continuously Now for the response from the ladies of The View Mr Waterboard people which a lot of people including you know terrorism experts say does not work

52:30 He wants to close the borders. He doesn't want any refugees coming in, just in case there are a couple of terrorists mixed in there. He wants to get tough on ISIS. He doesn't say how exactly as if other things have not been tried. What do you think about these comments? I'll be honest and I spent my-I went to law school because I want justice in our world and peace in our world It's sort of my moral compass is always on the side of justice. And I am so- I'm a lawyer, so my moral compass is kind of on the side of justice? Not all the time, just a little bit on that side. You know, I try to screw everybody but I'm a lawyer you know, don't hold it against me. The side of justice and I am so tired of seeing this senseless death. I thought Donald Trump sounded really reasonable today. My law enforcement background changed!

53:22 What? Stop the presses. But it didn't stop there, Jean-Claude. Isn't that crazy? Because we need to be forceful. We can't have these muted responses to terror. What's an example of a muted expression or response? I think that- Would it be what Hillary said? I think Hillary Clinton came out with what seemed to be a very muted response and let me also say this about Donald Trump. You know, we trash him often here. Bottom line is in January... My jaw is on the floor at this point.

53:58 Now they're apologizing for trashing Donald Trump incessantly. But then they come out with the video that went very viral, and if you want we can play the whole thing later. And this is a summary of the video from Lou Dobbs which aired I think over the weekend. You've been saying that, Raven? In January of this year he said Brussels was a hellhole and this is an interview with Maria Barrett to Romo. Try Barter-Romo on I believe CNBC. I believe CNBC.

54:54 It's like living in a hell hole. He said that in January, so he also was right about the fact that we're moving to Iraq which was a huge mistake. It looks like the guy is doing a podcast! He called it in January ma'am, the guys from The Future Up. Part of the problem and he was right on a couple things policy But I mean, yesterday he came out with NATO and said let's not be an interventionalist country. Let's not go where we can't fight these battles. Let's actually fix the problems here at home today. He says this We don't need to send troops over there.

55:41 Reasonable today. Let me tell you cuz it, you know he's always at the same thing but today He sounds reasonable yes I'll agree with that if he hasn't changed his spiel an iota and iota effected that 1988 clip that we played last show yeah Same thing But not so much about terrorism. So now we've decided Trump is good, Cruz is the a-hole. It's beautiful! This is fantastic! Unbelievable in one day! at it and I go, you know what? He didn't understand the-the...I'm gonna use the word verbiage. I don't know if it's a real verbiage. Verbiage! Verbiage! This is Raven Simone and I like what she's saying. She's such a fun girl. Use the word verbiage. I don't know if that's a real verbiage. Verbiage! VERBIAGE! He uses the verbiage that you use when you close the door to your house and say it with your family. You don't say those things outside of the door and that's what got everybody in an uproar. Whoa nice analysis little Raven Simone. He always had his points that people

56:47 the millions of people that are voting for him right now or wanting him to be the forerunner, you know what I mean? You know what I'm trying to say. Front runner. He's a front runner. They understood that they weeded through the problems we were having with him which was the crassness because we're not used to that as a politician and seeing our presidents talk about it like this. So which candidate makes you feel more secure Hillary or Trump? Do you understand why i watch The View now John don't you understand that this is top Top quality crap. It's fabulous I think a lot of people are waking up today and they're saying you know what Trump is saying kind of resonates with me He tweeted he said do you remember how beautiful and safe a place Brussels was not anymore? it is from a different world the US must be vigilant and smart

57:33 He's in the middle of a crisis. the fact of border security and that's what he has preached is not necessarily just building that wall but border security and securing the borders. He didn't know how to say it to make everybody right. He did know how to say it because he said it in just the most bigoted way he could possibly say it, and that's the problem I've always had. It's sort of the bigotry and misogyny but somehow this morning, and I'm terrified that I feel this way...

58:12 Sounded reasonable to me his message resonated. Okay, let me ask you something You wake up in November to President Trump How do you feel? Her head blew up after that Come on come on Well, that was interesting. You're not gonna give it to me? I know what you're angling for... You're not going to give it to me?! Well let me tell you- want me explain why Why are you not giving the clip of the day And I'm not giving your borderline either Because its neither- It's really a clip of the day There is some missing element The element of- I know what your saying! Stop! Your right This is what a clip of the day sounds like Something the Cuban government believes it must now do

59:09 Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post, Pulitzer Prize winning communist. Wow! Thanks Brian I think i have that on the mind you are not in fact a communist You are a friend of our- Come on come on Idiot Come on I'll give you borderline but it's not gonna be demand Borderline And that's kind of... Anyway, that does exemplify more of the type that gets recognized as clip-in-the-day. And I don't normally whine about not getting clip in the day but I find it needs you. I wasn't whining!

59:56 There's more, but I recommend we just break for a moment so that I can thank you for your courage and passion. And say in the morning to you John C. Dvorak where the C stands for Clip Blocker! And in the morning to you Mr Adam Curry also in the morning all ships with sea boots on the ground feet in Subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning to our artistes, our previous artists brought to us by Melvin Gipstein I guess it's Gibson, Gib Stein, Gibson He did the artwork for episode 809 er of course that was the velocity of money episode And the art work was

1:00:34 Oh yeah, it was the dollar bill with an angry bird at the top of the Illuminati pyramid. Yeah that was actually quite good. It's a very nice piece. That little bird up there on the top. We appreciate everything that is always submitted. Again another example of art that isn't really too complicated...it's just an idea executed well. Yes Noah Jenda, ArtGenerator.com you can see all the ideas and how they've been executed and also in the morning to the chat room make sure that I thank them for showing up today no agenda stream calm let's thank some people our executive producers and associate executive producers this works very much like Hollywood we have a program you're watching a movie there's not necessarily an ad in the movie but there's the people who helped produce the movie and we'd like to thank them with the credits upfront

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1:02:17 333 33 currently we're working at Facebook as a contractor and yes, they listen here. Oh Got a couple of he wears he walks around with his badge And he's using one of the no agenda lanyards ah is with this with this face bag if it's face bag badge yeah So you got a couple in the mornings that a bunch of silence when I said when he mentioned He was oh so there are a face listeners at the bag nice Yeah. Very good. Christine Zachman, we just gave him some karma for working at Facebag. He needs it! Face bag karma! You've got karma. Bagger Karma. Christine Zachman in Lost Wages Nevada $250 she becomes an associate executive producer for show 810 which also commemorates the 810 split for all you boulders out there Oh I'd forgotten about the 810 split yes. Oh the 810 split very nice. It's annoying

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1:04:03 Still on course for my next title. Keep up the excellent work! I think we can throw a Karma his way. I think that's very good idea. Can we throw one Christine's way? This is for you too, Christine. Oh, you know what screw it We'll just give her another Karma. But i'm feeling karmonious. You feel karmonious. I'm karmonious today Give all the karma away that people need That's it And that-that's it That's all we got today Well before we move on do have a little PR mention It was, I think it was a week ago or week and a half ago. And I believe it eventually wound up on the No Agenda Face Bag group but at first was sent to the no agenda list serve this pilot who drew a picture of an airplane. I think he also did some dick pics on GPS. Did you see that? I didn't see the dick pics but I saw the proposed NO AGENDA

1:05:03 Well, you're ruining my surprise. Okay? So there was a guy who filed the flight plan did all the because if you want to show up on websites like Flightaware.com etc You have to have ADS-B which is a certain type of transponder that also broadcasts a signal that can and there's a lot of these people with these open source USB sticks and they, you know which are meant for receiving digital television signals and they reprogram them just to access a lower region of the band. It's basically... software-defined radio. And so they can listen to these signals being sent by aircraft and say of apps, you can just type in the tail number of the aircraft and it'll show you its path that's tracking all the telemetry of how fast it's going altitude etc., and then it draws a track that you can follow how the aircraft flew. So producer Charlie here in Austin actually he's just outside of Austin

1:06:04 I contacted him, and said hey Charlie. I got an idea! And sent him the article, he sent me back about an hour later a complete pre-programmed GPS coordinates all the beacons everything completely perfect to draw a huge ITM between Austin & Houston which we're going to do tomorrow in the sky. I thought it was an NA? Tina clearly told me that i was dumb Are you nuts? You're gonna do NA which no one will understand. How about ITM I think yeah Okay, well him is better my team is much better it's our that's our thing ITM is our symbol It's our logo listen to the women in our life why we listen listen anybody but ourselves So Charlie and try love Charlie man he so the it's actually much so you let me get this straight So tell you how it works

1:07:01 You're going to paint in the sky over the United States. Yes, over Texas a giant ITM in the sky But it's only viewable through all this rigmarole that maybe only ten people can see but it's going to be there and It'll be there for all eternity it will be thousands and thousands And maybe hundreds of thousands of people who will be able to see this if you go to floor here you do you? You can watch it live you can watch us do it live on flightaware.com. Oh, yes! So tomorrow before we take off because I'm not...I don't have a death wish Tomorrow before we take off i will tweet out the tail number of the aircraft

1:07:43 So everyone can type that into flightaware.com and then you... They tell you they can't plant a bomb on them? Yeah, exactly! That's what you're saying to the audience. That's what I'm saying yeah hell yeah. They could still shoot you down but they won't because that's not... Well at least they'll know where i am so it's about... They know where you are now It's about 127 mile wide ITM in the sky Okay Which of course you know I'll also bring the chemtrail machine with me So temporarily you'll be able to see it. I think it's a cool promotion You don't sound so happy as a fantastic promotion are you kidding me because I think that will go that could go viral No, why not? Just this podcast is so cool its listeners draw their initials in the sky come on okay

1:08:35 Well, I think we're getting a lot of potential for viral activity. I don't see this being what? I think this is just kind of cool Nah well i think it's more than kinda cool yeah well you like Yeah You do course anyway the technology behind It Is interesting because charlie pretty much Just did all the gps coordinates and then tomorrow when We take off We feed all that Into The autopilot We go up and then we don't know if we'll be Depending on the weather will be above the clouds or below the clouds, and then you you pretty much flip on the Autopilot and it draws it draws it in this guy okay? I think I should step back for your enthusiasm. Is this take hit me in the face Does this take an hour and 12 minutes that's not 227 mile wide Initials okay, and what are you doing to promote the show oh

1:09:33 I am doing something to promote the show. Dvorak dot org slash N A Really? Yeah, it's a secret. Okay! Thank you...a lot of thanks to our executive producers and our associate executive producers. I hope you enjoy all the promotions we're doing for them And remember even if your in the sky please forget the formula Our formula is this We go out, we hit people in the mouth Alrighty then. I did have one or two, no one i think... One clip left over the president's response and uh..I'm sure you followed the outrage! Just outrage! So outraged the President was in Cuba watching a baseball game and the optics of this were not good I would say

1:10:44 What was your feeling on that? Optics. I watched the game You were interested in the game, you didn't care I thought the game was... It was kind of, I don't know how the Cuban team didn't do better but it gets the raise. But okay. So the president got a lot of flack. In optics I agree with you and then he's being interviewed by a bunch of ESPN guys and he's hanging out with Jeter and giving him high fives and all this stuff. Derek Jeter probably would rarely get to see the President if ever but there is like hanging out with him was probably pretty good idea I don't know. I just thought it was a publicity stunt that didn't go anywhere one way or the other against baseball fans The game sucked, I could only watch parts of it. I can't believe you watched that game Why would you even do that? I wanted to see how the Cuban team looked! The Cuban team... this is the beginning of a big... Do they have cute uniforms? ...I like to imagine This Cuban team is going to be part of a minor league system That United States uses for farm-like a triple A team

1:11:47 Well, more importantly Google is going to be providing wireless internet to the entire nation of Cuba. They're in. I gotta get over there before their regular airline service starts that's gonna wreck it. It's gonna wreck the place So the president did give a little speech nine minutes cut down to one and a half That's not hard you just take out all the pauses. My god this is... Going back to teleprompter So he had no teleprompter and he sucked. I mean it was... this impromptu response by the president, which they got caught off guard. I think they were probably all partying everyone's dead is the party plane we're going to Cuba and watch a ball game. We're gonna drink when have fun. We live it up. It's gonna be fabulous and then oh crap what do we do? What are we doing now well President Do this maybe he just said screw it. I can do this watch me address this issue a little bit at the baseball game when I was interviewed by ESPN but let me reiterate

1:12:48 Groups like ISIL can't destroy us. They can defeat us they don't produce anything they're not an exos existential threat to us and Existential what is it existed like they would get rid we would be extinct is that what existential means no, I know We should look it up and discuss it because the word is being used a lot. Okay, so let's get it right. All right. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Existential... here we go. Having existence of or pertaining to or having the character of existentialism or specifying actual existence rather than only possibly. So it is about the existence

1:13:37 I want to get the thing. Yeah, that's what existentialism refers to. I'm just reading the definition. That's the definition you read which is what it is but... But the existential threat is something else and here's the jargon database dot com definition. Okay this is interesting Surprisingly, not something one finds covered in a college philosophy textbook which is where existential comes from. This is regarded as a military or terrorist threat to the existence of something usually the United States and involves nuclear chemical or biological weapons. So he's saying it's not an actual threat? Right! Huh...

1:14:23 So not a threat, they're not a threat there. It's not that they're non-threatening to our existence the threat itself is nonexistent that's what he's saying Pretty much. But they use that because they can't say that these guys, I mean the president can't say what we can say on this show which is this is nonsense these guy are just jokers and it's all theater and everything were seen from FBI and everything else in see something say something and all rest of it lines security lines and all rest of it its bull crap The number of people that are going to get killed by any terrorist nut job, but they might be floating around Phoenix is like...is beyond getting hit by a bolt of lightning. Percentage-wise sure

1:15:08 And so it's bullcrap, but they can't quite say that because then everyone goes oh! Oh! Oh! and you can't sell stuff. You can't sell scammers and all this stuff So you dream up this term from the military is where it came from according to these guys It says its not an existential threat Everyone goes okay I guess thats...I don't know..I dont even know what that means And that's so it's a scam. It's a scam phrase okay nailed it. It's a scam its bogatyr Its bogey, but let me reiterate it groups like ISIL can't destroy us they can defeat us They don't produce anything they're not An exos existential threat to an egg That was the only word he had to remember He blew it that's why They are vicious killers

1:16:00 and murderers who perverted one of the world's great religions, and... Oh okay he is saying it too. They've perverted so it does have to do with religion yeah? He just admitting it Their primary power in addition to killing innocent lives is to strike fear in our societies To disrupt our societies So that the effect cascades from an explosion or an attack by a semi-automatic rifle. An attack by a semi-automatic rifle. Just semi... an attack with a semi automatic rifle instead of I don't know what? What? An attack by a... An attack by a semi automatic rifle Even as we are systematic and ruthless, and focused in going after them Disrupting their networks Getting the leaders Rolling up Their operations

1:17:07 It is very important for us to not respond with fear. As I said, that's hard to do because we see the impact in such an intimate way of the attacks that they make We defeat them in part by saying you are not strong You are weak We send a message to those who might be inspired by them To say you're not going to change our values liberty and openness and the respect of all people. One of my proudest moments as president was watching Boston respond after the Boston Marathon attack

1:17:47 Okay, the president says one of his proudest moments. I was at a proud moment They're telling people to stay at home there is a military state People were told to cower in the corner to shelter in place Stay indoors for how long was it John four days? No that was two days Maybe it was longer. I could be wrong so he is so He's proud So proud that everybody said you know what we're gonna shelter-in-place and cower in the cornea and be whoo I was so proud the slaves listened to what i told them to do and then we had our military. I'm sorry police but they look like military brought around and bust into people's homes, so proud! So American! So Proud! One of my proudest moments as president was watching Boston respond after the boston marathon attack because they taught America a lesson

1:18:41 They grieved. We apprehended those who had carried this out, but a few days later folks were out shopping. Oh! That's... Thank you George W Bush. They're allowed out of their house they were starving to death. Sure thank you George W Bush. Remember after 9-11 Bush said go shopping? Go shopping here's bid that apparently that's what we need to do Boston Strong But a few days later folks were up shopping. Boston strong And I'm not making light of what happens, but screw that noise. Boston strong and that is how we are going to defeat these terrorist groups by shopping! We have to shop John as long as we're shopping we're gonna defeat these terrorist groups no existential threat part because we're going after them and we are strong our values are right you offer nothing except death and so it's important

1:19:39 What about those 72 virgins? For the US president and the U.S government to be able to work with people who are building, and who are creating things, and creating jobs, trying to solve major problems like climate change. Oh brother how does he get that in? That's the real problem we have to solve is climate change. It's not ISIS, it's climate change because that's... Here's the latest thing about climate change where the reason the tides aren't rising they're actually going down is because the ground is rising You know what? I didn't want to go there right now, but i will take this detour with you. No! I don't want to take the detour yet It's very important... Okay. I want at least my two clips out of the way Alright then let me finish. I'm gonna hit you with some more Well what is our strategy on ISIS? What is our plan

1:20:33 Since the president just said, you know we're gonna go kick their ass. And tell us? And were going to shop. But he can't tell us because the plan was due by February 15th and this has not been delivered by the Secretary of Defense to Congress It's a law and they are late and they don't give a shit Mr. Secretary obviously were here in day of tragedy Tragedy for the Belgians Tragedy for world ISIS is now taking responsibility For the murders this morning who had a Marine that was killed last weekend in Iraq. I know you feel that personally We have a law that we passed called the National Defense Authorization Act It required you to submit to Congress by February 15th, a plan for defeating these people. I know you told the Chairman it was imminent By February 15th You are in violation of the law When an average American is in violation there are consequences

1:21:30 Would you care to explain to the committee why there shouldn't be consequences for your failure to follow a law that was signed by your president? We'll be in front of you imminently. Mr Secretary, that's not my question! The statute says you shall do it by February 15th Do you not agree that you are in violation of that law? prepare we are Gonna submit that report. It's taken some time I'm going to ask you again, but do you not agree that you're in violation of the law? We will have that report to you shortly. I don't think that's a satisfactory response When we pass a law around here it means something hell Yeah now people's lives are at stake You know that better than any of the rest of us. I don't think it's not too much to ask

1:22:16 that you comply with the laws that we pass and the president signs. So it's not sufficient for you to say its imminent, You need to give us a plan now." We don't even have a plan! I was not aware of this. And I don't know how he caught that. That would be closer to clip of the day In fact, Dominic gave me a clip of the day for that. He could be held in contempt couldn't he? They could do all kinds of stuff. Unbelievable. Here's the problem, to be held in contempt and enforce it with some sort of imprisonment... Waterboarding! We should waterboard the guy to get the plan out of him. It has to be put through by- this was explained on a clip we played a couple years ago- it has to be put through

1:23:07 DC district attorney or something and they're all in the pockets of the Obama administration, not doing nothing. So this is just wheelspinning. And the guy should have said yeah I'm in violation of the law so what? Well that's pretty much what he said But no he didn't say that He was a wimp, could've gone further Talking about what's the solution to all this...I'm watching Judy Woodruff They finally, the PBS News Hour finally had Bernie on. Oh there must have been a... And they had him on that for nine minutes I think it was six and seven Was he in the studio or was he on remote? No he was in another studio but he was at least being interviewed one-on-one Right mono a mono

1:23:51 Woodruff got into a brain freeze or something. She kept asking him the same question in the same kind of freaky way, she was very bad at this and Bernie finally blew up at the end but he it was during all this discussion of Brussels and all the rest and ISIS so what I've done is only clipped...this is the Woodruff Woodruff clip, but that what I'm good you're gonna hear is woodruff asking these stupid questions And then I just put a little bit of Bernie in there because Bernie went on and on trying to explain to her and then after he finished she asked the same question Then he went on and on and on trying to explain to her. Well is this production? You've done pre-production. I did some work on nice it's all you get his woodruff a snippet of Bernie Woodruff a snippet of Bernie Woodruff and then would Bernie going off on her than I cut it

1:24:44 But to play devil's advocate just one more question here Senator the approach you describe is one that is going to take many months Maybe even many years does the well, you know Judy. I don't know Let me tell you this also do hold on a second Is this the right clip John cuz it's almost over? That can be right It isn't right good. I must have I must have left it on the cutting room floor We produce that happen I only have nine seconds or 20 seconds of this clip Oh no! All that work. Okay, next show... Sunday show I'll have to go for it. And even did like a whole lead into it and everything. Aw man. I still looked at the number myself 370k It should be more like 2m Let me see if I can- It's a glitch don't worry about it let me see if I can save the segment with

1:25:39 With the Constitution... President Obama was a constitutional professor, correct? Constitutional lawyer. He's a constitutional lawyer! But he also taught constitutional law, correct? I think he was a lecturer. He wasn't a professor. Okay if you're a lecturer do you think you should be able to explain...? Yes, you should know something. Can you explain the... In America we have a system where the powers are separated what do we call that Separation of powers. Okay, and it's the legislative which is Congress It's the judicial Which is the Supreme Court And its' the executive branch Do I still have it right? Yeah you're going for it Well the president didn't have his prompter I also think that one of the great advantages Of the United States system even though it's very frustrating sometimes for The President

1:26:38 is that power is distributed across a lot of different institutions. Power is distributed across a lot of institutions. Okay, there's three! It's three. If you're talking about federal power, it's three. If you're talking about states power is different but that's we'll go back to Constitution but he's a constitutional lecturer. Well here's what happened and do you want to hear the rest of him? Do you want to hear the rest of him? Oh he still talking oh please! You interrupted him you should have let it go out I just don't know just I will now It's what we call separation of powers and decentralization. So it's not just that the president and Congress are separate centers of power. Dictators? It's also true that you have state governments that are powerful, The private sector is powerful... What?! This makes it hard sometimes

1:27:38 So the president is explaining the separation of powers by bringing in the states and big business. And he forgets the Supreme Court. Centers of power, it's also true that you have state governments that are powerful The private sector is powerful and this makes it hard sometimes for America to change as rapidly as we need to respond to changed circumstances or problems Because it's like it's sort of like herding cats. You know you have to hurting cat and notice the audience is dead so he's waiting for the for the guffaws in the last because their audiences wondering what the hell's he Like herding cats, you know you have to drop your constantly trying to get everybody to share Where's my laughter but it says right there in the print? Oh I don't have a prompter oh man circumstances or problems

1:28:33 Because it's like, uh... It's sort of like herding cats. You know? You have to- you're constantly trying to get everybody to work together and move in the same direction at the same time and that's difficult The advantage is that even if we end up with somebody who I might not consider a great president Donald Trump There is a limit to some of the damage they can do Do do because and I'm sure Republicans feel that about me. They're glad that there's distribution of power distribution Because they imagine that I would have turned the United States into Cuba, I suppose yeah No laughs again know they tend to exaggerate a little bit my no laughs fail how I see the world epic fail but

1:29:18 But that's why they fail to see the world the way I see the world. That's nice guys going off the rails here, and you're right it's He's he's now I think we can apply something we've learned today instead of constitutional lawyer I think we can call him an existential lawyer well Let's play something that I've kept kind of been saving What's happened to the government? The United States in particular is then I think Obama exhibited Well, the inability to explain that we've become a regulatory system... Right. ...which is why he's talking about distribution and the regulatory system is where you have it and I worked for one of these. Funny how he was able to do that without mentioning the court at all in those two minutes. He doesn't need too because after I listened to this long interview with John Yu who was

1:30:14 Who was he again? Was he an attorney general? John Hughes, the guy who wrote the thesis that torture was okay for the Bush administration. Oh! That's right and they had... He is a professor over here at Berkeley And they had the guys sign it on his deathbed? I don't know. Yes, they did yeah But Hugh is a very controversial figure but he's very smart and he has discussing one of his newest books which is a compilation of essays that other people have written. But he discusses how we've changed from this separation of powers operation run by Congress, who makes the laws to this regulatory-driven system where you have agencies writing laws... Rules! Yeah they're not writing just rules they're writing laws

1:31:06 And they write these laws and there's a blanket approval process that Congress gave them or something somewhere along the line. So these agencies are just writing laws left and right, and they create their own... It's like the Clean Air Act gave the EPA, all that license that they have been using. It's acts of Congress that give them the license. That's the way I see it. Well there is that element but the problem is they're writing laws and technically the way this system has done...all law should be written by Congress not some bonehead in a special district. McCarthy works for one of these operations Yeah. Enforcing the law and then watching the guys who disobeyed these rules and regulations and laws, got to see them go to essentially a kangaroo court.

1:31:59 where everybody stands when these phonies come in and they... the whole thing is outrageous. Now, the history of this is elucidated here on The C-SPAN Show Book TV by John Yoo and it's kind of interesting along we don't have all these agencies when did it start and how did it start? It's really interesting so as we talked about crisis in command executive power really expands during two periods of crisis hence the name of the book wars, emergencies but when those crises would pass the executive branch was shrink and the government which shrink. Woodrow Wilson I think is really intellectual father figure of that kind of administrative state we have today he saw

1:32:42 the expansion of agencies and government power during wartime, and he wanted to make it permanent. He wanted to make it last beyond wars. He thought that was efficient government. And he got those ideas actually from Germany where I think came to admire the Prussian system of government administration. That's a whole book you have to do with that. Before we started calling... Some of his beliefs. Yeah exactly there wasn't a lot of books. But really very influential political scientist before he was president and this is his view. And then expanded by? Then FDR, FDR though was the one who made it permanent in the crisis of the Great Depression He took Wilson's ideas and Wilson's model and made it permanent and that those are the agencies we're still living with then got kind of supercharged by LBJ in the great society programs and I would say President Obama is sort of a last version of the great expansion that were living through right now

1:33:38 that builds on FDR and LBJ but then even farther. It's like now we're on Great Society on Steroids." Yeah, he's partially responsible for the TSA through his work on the Patriot Act I'm reading here And so what you end up with, yes. He's actually used part of the problem. Yeah! But what you see in that clip that you played is Obama in this administrative era... Yes! So confused by it himself. Oh my goodness! He doesn't realize that this was at one time a constitutional republic It's an existential Republic

1:34:19 It's unbelievable. That's good one I give you clip of the day if it was a clip yeah, I know it wasn't clip and no Do you remember partial clip of the day? Okay alright do you remember what? Do you remember what I overheard well actually was told to me directly at that birthday dinner where I said next to that I sat Next to the famous baseball player Do you remember that though? The day was an OBOD dinner. It was the kind of, kind of an OBOD dinner with the former New York banker and his wife. And then the famous baseball guy whose name I forgot already that I sat next to him. And I said how's it what's it like coaching little league? He said yeah, fine but he was actually like with the Yankees wasn't with the Yankees or the Mets. I don't remember any of this. We both need a B12

1:35:07 Desperately. We should take a B12 break Anyway, it was at that dinner that they told me there were rumors about Ted Cruz having an affair You don't remember that either? Okay, here's what you're leading into is there we should at least discuss the lead-in to this. The leading is the only thing that's interesting I guess... No not your lead in, I'm talking about the lead into analyzing what's going on between Trump and Cruz and their wives Do I have a clip? I have a clip. This is uh, a small clip from Anonymous! Mr Cruz has been hiding behind some very dirty secrets that lie beneath the surface. Secrets that you believed would never haunt you but as you should know by now, Mr Cruz we are anonymous We expose the fraud that seeks to have power over our great country It's time that America knows your deep and dirty secrets

1:36:08 We have done our homework, Mr. Cruz and since you can't stop your disgraceful and ridiculous political manipulation it's time that we tell America what is hiding behind the curtain Have you heard the expression candy wrappers? Do you recall visiting prostitutes? Mr. Cruz... Do you know the phrase candy wrappers Here we go play Tom Yama shouting about Trump's naked wife Okay And tonight, Trump and Cruz locked in a nuclear war of words over their wives. It started with this anti-Trump super PAC ad we had to blur. Trump lashing out on Twitter posting, lying Ted Cruz just used a picture of Melania from a GQ shoot in his ad be careful lying Ted or I will spill the beans on your wife when you read that

1:36:59 What did you think? I will say even for Donald though he reached a new low. It's one thing to try to attack another candidate, it's another thing to come after my wife. And in a rare move, Heidi Cruz also firing back against Trump You probably know by now that most of the things Donald Trump says have no basis in reality David today Senator Ted Cruz received the endorsement of Jeb Bush and Donald Trump reacted on Twitter saying honestly I can't blame Jeb in that I drove him into oblivion David? Tom Yamas on the campaign trail again tonight As a follow-on to that, but I have in the rundown here in the B block we have another production element

1:37:39 This is what Ted Cruz said. And if Donald wants to get in a character fight, he's better off sticking with me because Heidi is way out of his league. And this was plagiarized by LyonTed from An American President with Michael Douglas Again, Ted Cruz... If Donald wants to get into the character fight He'd better off sticking with me because Heidi is way out of his league You want a character debate Bob? You better stick with me, because Sidney Ellen Wade is way out of your league. Work for word! Work for word! Wow... Where's that- where was that floating around? One of our producers sent that to me. Nice nice job He said this is exactly what he's doing it's verbatim It's right from the movie Let's do one more time And if Donald wants to get in a character fight He's better off sticking with me cause Heidi is way out of his league If you want a character debate Bob

1:38:32 You better stick with me, cause Sidney Ellen Wade is way out of your league. Even the character debate! Well I think there's been other examples of Cruz lifting things Oh he's talking about a wall now Yes, he is. He's talking about a wall and I think this thing that got him into trouble the Muslim commentary was him thinking that the way he presents stuff he can get away with what Trump did. Sure sure but Trump did another thing John of all the things he's done this is the first time he actually endeared me...me! Of all people

1:39:11 You talked earlier about the notion that we're losing to ISIL, that they're making us look foolish and soft. ISIS! ISIS-ISIL? It's one thing with the president he always says ISIL whatever... ISIL ISIL ISIL everyone else says ISIS and it's almost like he does it to bother people okay you understand. Well I'm not doing this to bother you. No I know but you know what but the President of the United States always says ISIL but then everyone else is ISIS and I actually think he doesn't to bother people Finally someone picks up on it It has to be Trump. I never thought of the theory that he does it to bother people! Yeah, i'm all in now like okay that makes sense. I'm sure you heard uh when trump was asked a question about Elizabeth Warren? No I did not. Warren today on social media went after you calling you a loser where are you going- The Indian? You mean the indian? Are you prepared to deal with that kind of sustainability? The Indian?!

1:40:06 The Indian. We need to teach him Pocahontas! Wouldn't it be awesome if he started calling Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas? Yeah, he's gotta start calling her Pocahontas That's much funnier But I like that. Oh you mean the Indian he didn't say Native American He just went straight to India should tweak to the real Trump whatever he calls himself on Twitter Yeah, did start using Pocahontas? I think we could have enough in I think we do I think we do which oh my mouth my face is hurt better now as a final one This was another beautiful television moment. What a great time to be alive and doing this podcast, I'm proud to be a podcaster! No one else can do this stuff. So Larry Wilmore who has that fake talk show on Comedy Central... Wilmore took over the old Stephen Colbert show Yes he did And his-I have to say his show is full on Obama bot but it's okay sometimes it's funny

1:41:07 And he brought in a panel of black voters who are going to vote for Donald Trump. This is interesting because this was done, I don't know what the date of that show was but this was not done in that manner but it was done by Samantha Bee on her show and Showtime another spin off of John Stewart Yeah you know the way thats edited its just edited to make you laugh about stupid people Well, she did it. It was actually the way that she handled it was a lot different than what you think. She brought in a bunch of Trump bots including a black guy who's like... Let's call them trumpeters

1:41:48 Trumpeters. I like that, so she brought in a bunch of trumpeters and she let them actually win the debates Were they were they mixed group or were they? Yes there was a Chinese guy There was a black guy it wasn't white but it was a whole mixed group and they were... She made it clear that they had beaten her down And the black guy was the best She says, how can you believe they saw it? It's just the way he talks. That doesn't mean that it was all their interpretation of everything Trump said which I think is an accurate is he's not really

1:42:26 Yes, saying these things yes sounds like yeah. Well listen to this group of American voters who? See through all the bullshit and I think really surprised Larry Wilmore now He still makes it funny because he's a comedian But I know that well I think it evens at the end of the clip where he's flummoxed. I think is the right word In the Trump campaign and I'm not talking about the Trump campaign It's about some of its followers. You have a lot of black people supporting Trump Black people supporting Trump? I, I, I... You see the set up and the audience is all in! So where are these black people? Well, I had some of them in my studio the other day Where I asked them simple question

1:43:18 What the f*** are you thinking? I just want to ask a very straight question from the beginning. Why do you support Donald Trump? I'm a registered Democrat, let me start first and... ...I lost faith and belief in the current state of our party right now with our two candidates. I am open to Donald Trump because I feel like he's a gangster He is a gangster Is he a gangsta or a gangster? This is a middle-aged woman A nice woman, looks like she's kind of milfy mom type. He's like a gangster that why I like him He's a gangster. He's a gangsta? Is he a gangster or a gangstuh? He's going out here and he's kind of gangster in the whole situation, like if you come up to my mic I'm taking you out Coming from the hip-hop community I understand his language Right because he is kinda like a rapper, I mean... ...he's into gold That's what i'm saying! Right? He has his own vodka Absolutely Uh.. he got a private jet That's right And really likes white women

1:44:21 And his wife is a model. Correct, would that sway anybody else? Those qualities... And his wife is a model. Without a beat she said uh-huh that's right he likes white women uh huh yeah and his wife is a model that's right I'm from the hip hop community Hip Hop for The Trumps! ...those qualities.. The way you expressed it I never thought of it that way but you know he's pretty cool Have you told other black people that you're voting for Donald Trump? Be honest. Absolutely! Kevin, be honest. Have you told family members? I've told family members... You told your mama that you're voting? I told my wife that we fight every morning about it. Kind of a racist thing to say. it. I stand on my own too Donald Trump is the president who can get black people those low-paying jobs again no we don't want the low paying job lower paying jobs are the first rung on the ladder so you can't climb up a ladder until you start someplace Donald Trump will get black people back on that first run of the ladder if you're on the ladder here, you're gonna climb up more should the Mexicans be allowed to use that ladder to climb the wall

1:45:18 Do you have a message for other black people out there telling them why they might want to vote for Donald Trump? I would say just know that Donald Trump is not going to make you a slave. He's not gonna make me a slave, and your sure about that. I'm pretty sure about that. Okay. Donald Trump says he has a great relationship with the blacks Okay, as one of the blacks how would you describe that relationship? The fact that he says the blacks means that his relationship is a little skewed because he wouldn't call us the blacks if he really understood where we were coming from. Does it feel like he's in an abusive relationship with the blacks

1:45:57 Are you guys secretly trying to get out of this relationship? Not at all. Okay, so how did you guys feel when Trump said he wants to ban Muslims from coming into the country? We don't have any Muslims here. I'm Muslim. You're kidding me. No, I'm not kidding you. And you're gonna vote for Trump? Most certainly Really? Yes Would you be opposed uh...to having Trump waterboard you just to get more information about Islam? Um If Trump came in here and he had to pick one person to water board who do you think he would pick Rhymes with shmuzzlem. I thought that was a great tease! I liked that Yeah, it shows the bigotry of these comics Of him! Yeah of course, of that whole channel Yeah that channel's very bigoted Viacom just say it Well Viacom is Viacom Somebody was complaining about them calling out CBS They're basically in the same bed even though Viacom and CBS broke up they're still in a relationship

1:46:56 Okay, well I've got a couple things that are off the wall. Although we're never going to get through my Brian Ross clip here. Yeah let's do Brian Ross! He's queued up and good to go. Set him up. Alright hit Brian Ross. Let's get back to this and get this out of the way. It is increasingly clear tonight to US authorities that the deadly terror attack this week in Brussels And last November in Paris, where the work of one interconnected ISIS cell based in Belgium made up of at least 16 terror recruits mostly European. 13 of them now dead and 1 under arrest and 2 still being sought. It's got more moving parts it's got people attacking in different ways

1:47:37 It's a more resilient kind of terror cell, I think. The culmination of more than a year of careful planning by ISIS central command in Syria that allowed the cell to avoid detection for so long They do train their people in the fundamentals of being a spy, of being a terrorist. Richard Clark Sorry? That's Richard Clark. People in the fundamentals of being a spy, of being a terrorist cell, fundamentals of secure communication... Among those who have documented ties to both Paris and Brussels is that suspected bomb maker 24 year old Najim Lestrawi whose remains were discovered today in the rubble of the Brussels airport

1:48:18 Authorities say they have found his DNA and fingerprints at bomb factories that produced explosives for both Paris and Brussels. And David, officials tell us that even with those two men on the loose they believe the Brussels terror cell has already carried out its mission now out of people and out of bombs The concern now is there are other terror cells across Europe still covert and still actively plotting, David Well if they're out of people and bombs then she's upped the tweet quotient As a follow-up, play this clip which is the AP400 and I think this is kind of an interesting clip based on what Obama had said earlier. The Associated Press among others have been reporting today that there were as many as 400 people being trained by ISIS to carry out these attacks in Europe so did they not leave any footprints?

1:49:11 prints or any signs? Well, the number is a little bit soft I think but it's not unrealistic to think that if you have 5,000 Europeans that went to Iraq and Syria to fight. If only 10% of them came back home, that sets pretty good base for future attacks. You know Abu, the guy who carried out the November attacks in Paris claimed there were 90 people he knew involved themselves getting ready to carry out attacks so its no something easily dismissed From what you know about from writing your book on ISIS. Is this the sort of thing that the United States should be wary of? Are there footprints, as well, leading here?

1:49:47 Well, it's a different situation for us. Fortunately we don't have the kind of radical communities that you see in Europe. We have radicalized individuals but not so much a community problem and we also have fortunately oceans separating us from some of these jihadists. The Europeans have a much more acute problem they're really waking up to it now It's almost too late for some of the actions they are taking because the threat is really at hand So, Daniel Benjamin you agree that this idea of alienation makes it different with the Muslim communities or the radical Muslim communities in Europe and here? There's no question that there is a higher level of alienation and radicalization. European Muslims are several times more likely to go to fight in Iraq, in Syria perhaps as much as 10 times as much and if you look at the casualties we've seen since 9-11, there has been vastly more violence in Europe ten times as much compared to the United States

1:50:47 So I thought that was interesting because he brought up the radicalized communities. Yep, which of course you've been talking about for years? For years! I see in my notes here that even Piers Morgan wrote an article in the Daily Mail saying we should listen to Donald Trump. Has the world gone crazy?! Well, just in the last couple of weeks apparently yes. And this is not going to be... I think there's gonna be a bunch of these attacks in short period of time. Oh, I agree and I'm very worried about Holland you know it is now they have the presidency of the EU so they got a lot of meetings going on that.. You know that I was explaining to a couple people here said my daughter only lives 75 miles from where this took place

1:51:35 You know, I think all of Europe is within 75. It's like from here to Waco. I mean this is not like the huge distance now and they make more of it as a distance. It's very interesting. I mean the psychology of distances they do amongst the Europeans for example When we went to took a trip to visit some friends in Cornwall, we were took it. We had an apartment in London We drove all the way to Cornwall which is West is at West Cornwall Yeah, Cornwell's this where the pirates are yeah Do west that's what you told the kids shut up? It's like consider the place where they like to retire the Brits like to go there or the south of France Which seems like a more logical place but

1:52:16 But it's like so it's divorced from the rest of England even though. It's not really and when we're when we're Okay, we're gonna leave were going back to London Oh how long you gonna take a couple days? You have to stop along the way I mean they would they were thinking this was like some horrible trip And it's like a four-hour drive I know well That that's just what you used to The human being can handle a lot more than we give ourselves credit for but here's what Christina says said daddy The people here are so angry. They're all on edge, they're all angry and it's even worse you know she works in the organic grocery store right now because they come in and... Now Christina has her hair dyed very black right now and she had her mom is of Greek descent So she has kind of an olive complexion And I see a lot of people think that I'm Muslim and then they treat me like shit

1:53:12 The racism is crazy. When her friend Juan was over there, Juan the Mexican ex-boyfriend... They didn't get served in a restaurant! In Holland!! Because they were Muslims. They look like Muslims! Correctness, they should go out of their way to serve them faster but this is all bullcrap and what's happening is the anger is brewing underneath and it's going to explode and certainly well if we see something happen in Holland everyone's gonna like screw it here's my bike I'm going back inside hey we know they won't they'll capitulate that's what they always do Sweden this was a great little bit from 60 Minutes, the Australian version of 60 Minutes. They went to Sweden they wanted to film in one of these no-go zones that we talked about on the last show. There are now 55 declared No Go Zones in Sweden where police have to escort ambulances to ensure their safety

1:54:06 And as we found out, the temperature is similar in the suburb of Rinkabee home to mostly Somali migrants. Within minutes of us arriving a group of young men make it clear We're not haunted and deliberately run down our cameraman. Whoops! Hey hey hey We call the police. To be honest we hadn't anticipated such intense aggression our cameraman was... And even they fear their presence will be provocative. I think it's better if you go in without us because i think it would be a very

1:54:52 Yeah, we would stay here and you watch us. Okay so the cops say well we're not gonna go in there We'll just stand here You guys go in and keep an eye on us if you have any problems just wave at us Sweden from the land of Abba and IKEA. Hello? Hello That's a great clip it shows you the problem that is like this is the political correctness thing run amok. But the cops are saying now we should probably do it, we don't want to get them all angry so we'll just stay here you guys go in and don't worry about it Yeah. And we were told, by the way... I think during the initialization of Trump's campaign where he mentioned something about these no-go zones and other people have talked about him being in... That's crazy! It's not true! Crazy! They've they yeah in fact they see there are some in England and again the Brits because they all hated Trump this is the point this is at the point where they were trying to pass a law to ban him from going to the UK that's right which had a bunch of clips up Yes we did

1:55:53 Because of him saying stuff like this. He's saying there are no go zones in London where nobody goes, you can't get in there because you'll just get beat up or whatever and then nobody does anything about it In Ireland a man tweeted he said I'l read this A man whose Twitter message was confronting a Muslim woman about the Brussels terror attacks and got a mealy mouth reply spawned scores of parodies online so He said, I asked this woman who... here it is. Here's his tweet. I confronted a Muslim woman yesterday in Croydon and asked her to explain Brussels She said nothing to do with me A mealy mouth reply And apparently this is very funny In Britain, I had to look it up So mealy mouth means you don't want to talk You don't want to say anything You have meal in your mouth, I guess I'm not going to say anything This got parodied and then this guy got arrested

1:56:51 on suspicion of inciting racial hatred on social media. What? Yes, in Ireland. So the guy says on Twitter or Facebook what was it? Tweeter I quote, I confronted a Muslim woman yesterday in Croydon and asked her to explain Brussels she said nothing to do with me a mealy mouthed reply and of course they went viral with the Mealy Mouth so people had all kinds of funny memes funny versions of it And then I guess that's because that went viral. They traced it back, so for instance someone said, now I confronted a five my five year old son yesterday. I asked him to explain the mortgage rates he said. I don't know. I like Batman. A mealy mouth reply. So its British humor kind of yes is funny yeah and there's a whole bunch of them they came back and saying you were arresting you because you were inciting hatred racial hatred on social media. Yeah this week can we document this as fact?

1:57:51 Well, I can only go by the news report. It's from... let me see where this comes from and of course in our system these days or for the past five years everything we link to is saved offline This is from independent.ie? That's credible! I would think so Huh Yeah Well, that's not a good thing. Can't say anything! I didn't find that racially inciting anything. Just a mealy-mouthed reply is just the fact... But you said, I didn't get an answer and then the same joke floated around with that be, You can't say I didn't get an answer? Is that like something you're gonna be arrested for? I don't know John. I don't know what you're asking unfortunately the wrong guy And what's wrong with these Irish cops

1:58:44 It's the political correctness and people are now starting to wake up to this, and saying hmmm maybe there is something to that. I mean we are being accused...I hear every news model spokeshole is all saying the reason they're pissed off is because of what we say about them meaning Donald Trump or Ted Cruz or anybody That's what..we are being blamed well it was because the rhetoric we are using makes them mad and makes us want to kill people So, it's like shut up. Yeah you have to shut up otherwise is only gonna get worse that's the thinking that is the instruction and go shopping but otherwise that's the instruction. This is a common thread of The No Agenda Show for the last five or six years It's all a subtle attack on free speech Yes

1:59:38 But if you look at how we're educating kids, it's no... We got a lot of millennial feedback. In fact we get a lot of that in general people saying it's kind of divided like you don't know anything about millennials. I'm a millennial and you don't know anything about millennials! We got a millennial note Yeah, that's a good note. It was worth reading because I told him that there are couple of issues in that note and he didn't disagree He thinks we actually know what we're talking about about millennials because were surrounded by them and asked them questions From producer Zach Great work as always want to offer email about your more recent show To say I believe your analysis of Millennials is spot on And this is coming from one While I'm considered to be a millennial I am known as the older one

2:00:21 I have observed everything you're saying from my friends and co-workers who fall into this category, and want to tell you about my observations and rationale for what led to this. This is the email you're talking about correct? Yep When discussing Millennials you often get a lot of pushback from them And that is because we can't take criticism! I struggle with this myself and this is something I recognize I've recognized as a while, as a problem if i wanted to grow and become better at specific talents or practices. I think the biggest thing that contributes to this is our education. I've noticed most people are taught that they have the most up-to-date form of education and often in schools we see examples of things that were once acceptable a certain way until for example the planet Pluto was no longer a planet! This constant updated change gives the false notion that anything taught before is out of date and easily dismissed

2:01:10 Furthermore, when challenged to defend a position most people don't even know how to do something like that and just dismiss you as crazy or just someone who is behind the times. What millennials lack is wisdom but wisdom is something our society dismisses as important if knowledge is power then wisdom is the control to be able to direct that power as needed like a pitcher in baseball all the power in the world doesn't mean much of anything unless you have the control to wield it In this case to be able to have a rational discussion The other things I've noticed is how unintelligent most millennials sound when they open their mouths and have a discussion. This stems from several issues, the first and most obvious one is how most Millennials are embedded into their phones and use this as a primary form of communication It's one thing to write out sentences thoughts and opinions in text And another to do it audibly where there is no ability to proofread and proofread again

2:02:01 The second reason for this is a combination of the lack of talented role models most kids or teenagers, young adults look up to which constantly display a lack of intelligence in communication. People now are more concerned with making sure their perception of them is trendy or glamorous than intelligent This is due to a combination of stars being made overnight that in reality haven't worked even accomplish anything which sends the message you can be rich famous and influential without needing to actually work on becoming that And I think that read the crux of it at this point. Now, okay a couple things i wanted to say one is that I think he's wrong in a lot of these points and this was all triggered by those two clips three clips that we had on the last show yes but then dumb guy go ahead and then velocity of money just throwing words blockchain blockchain I just do that all time hey baby would you like a drink and some blockchain

2:02:57 Blockchain. Blockchain. A couple of things, one he talks about the changing of what is true and what's not true mentioning Pluto as an example that is a universal thing that has happened even when I was a kid there was a moment... I was alive when Pluto became a planet Well, the other thing was there's even more egregious issues it seems to me and this was within recent memory they came out with something that if you use a iron pots and pans you're going to die. Remember that? No! Yeah, there was a big deal about it. Like cast iron? Cast iron is going to kill you and then they all pulled back on that because it was such bogus. I don't even know why this public relations company was behind it but in 1957 there was an event called the International Geophysics Year and that's the year when they discovered plate tectonics. That was before that anyone in their 30s... Sorry? Donald Fagan

2:03:58 Anybody in the 30s, 40s or 50s when you looked at a globe or world map and saw Africa and South America it looks like one fits into the other. The word was no, that's just a coincidence. I remember that. And it wasn't until they... and if you ever thought that you were wrong wrong wrong! Then the geophysics year determined they were hooked together at one time That was how plate tectonics worked there was all one big gob of earth So poor people yelling science science science? Probably, they always do. And then we're talking about these vapid celebrities that are just coming in out of the blue This is not new either if anybody remembers Ava and Zsa Zsa Gabor Especially Zsa Zsa or even Marilyn Monroe if you want Well Marilyn Monroe at least did some work But Zsa Zsa Gabor didn't do anything really she was more of a Paris Hilton She didn't do any more work than Paris Hilton does So these elements are always in play There's something else

2:05:01 that is going on with millennials. So in other words, our deconstruction done by the millennial is inaccurate in so far as why I think what he missed completely was the self-esteem movement. I agree. Which falls right into place and it's the real problem here and that's why you can't take criticism if you've got so much self esteem that you can't possibly be wrong about anything. Because all you get are likes! and all you get is likes. And that's all part of the self-esteem, self-esteem... The self-esteem movement which you can research and read about online just look it up on Google You can rea.. It's horrible! Yeah. It was a horror as the old Oh Johnny oh you can't catch the ball you should still be on the baseball team. Well we are in the very very beginning of an evolution

2:05:48 and we are not intellectually or in some ways even physically prepared for the internet. We're not ready for it, and if its coming we'll figure out right down to the smartphones were changing our posture holding these things There's a lot of things that are going to change. What also changes is, I will agree with him there the education system is pretty poor if you listen to this. A new study shows only one third of kids here in King County can tell time on an analog clock blame it on the digital age The survey asked 100 kids between 6 and 16 years old to figure out the time On a clock with hands And only 1 in 7 of them scored full marks It's no wonder Only 1 in 10 even owned a watch How about that?

2:06:32 I think this is specious personally. I'll tell you why in a moment, go ahead. Why it's not alright? If you never see there's no reason in the world... The clock is an anachronistic idea, the old with the two hands. There's no reason that anyone should have to learn that unless you want to travel in Europe and look up at the town clock which is probably wrong anyway but generally speaking everything is digital now there's no reason I don't blame anyone for not being able it's the same on the long hand. I disagree for 2 reasons 1 learning to tell time visually on a clock is very important for understanding the physical world

2:07:16 And why we have mathematics that were divided into 12 hours, 12 months is a lot of important things there. But maybe more importantly is the ability to do pattern recognition to recognize a pattern and it's, it's a brain exercise that we you and I did all our lives until the last 20 years probably. It's a brain exercise. I still do it. I still like analog clocks. Yeah. And without that constant training...and then I'm not saying it's necessarily a problem with the education But to not be interested in teaching the division of our physical world and the way we interpret that into units of 12, I think is a mistake.

2:08:03 I'm not saying it. I don't think it's any more important than learning how to read a sundial, which also takes a little skill. But will you agree that pattern recognition is important? Yeah but there's pattern recognition! There's so much pattern recognition that... Like what?! Oh he's white! He has privilege! I recognize the pattern!! ...like that. Yeah, I'll leave it at that. I'm gonna show my support by donating to KnowAgenda Imagine all the people who could do that oh yeah that'd be fab Well, we do have a few people to thank. It's starting with Sir William Durkin in Greenville South Carolina 12345

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2:09:41 There's more people, especially early Lexuses. It is ridiculous! Wow You have to have the things reupholstered you have to do all this extra work that I will say it before i'll say it again This 1993 car which is all I can afford Especially with down donation days. This car has never blown out any bulb, the headlamps, the interior lights, the turn signals... all bulbs are the originals which to me really makes you wonder. Do you ever drive it at night? Yeah of course I drive it a night. Just asking

2:10:20 Alright, that's odd. That the ball are though who makes those bulbs well I'd like to find out don't touch too late there incandescent obviously yeah Don't touch it with your fingers that ruins them they heat up a little bit Yeah, but the oil from your fingers can make them die Well that eat that's oh, that's okay Let's stop if you oil from your fingers only really affects those extremely hot quartz Zeon and other bulbs that are like I was always taught never to touch the bulb with my fingers from early on. A little 60 watt bulb? I'm just telling you what I was taught, I could be wrong, I could be wrong if you don't have this story in me. I'm just...I don't understand the logic of a 60 watt bulb You have to use how do you screw it in without your fingers With the glove That's what I was taught! I worked at a... Yeah well you were taught wrong Okay let's say you're incorrect and thats fine

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2:20:24 And that will be reflected at itm.im slash peerage, congratulations! So two things... All right this uh oh wait before we go there I want to get one clip to get out of the way which you'll appreciate it's another spook that is the guy who did that 60 minutes report on the NSA and And now he's working for the police department in New York. He's right back in, what is it? The CBS... What's his name? What's his name? Miller John Miller. Yes. That guy! He did the bogative CBS interview as though he was a CBS reporter when he was really an insider You've got to listen to this because this and of course This isn't taking advantage of every crisis and coming up with this and tell me what you think

2:21:13 How you interpret this, because I have my thoughts on W-I-C-K-R. W-I-C-K-R Well after what happened in Brussels today tonight one of the top counterterrorism officials in the country is calling out a Bay Area tech company Mark Kelly is in our newsroom right now Mark what is this all about? Well Ken it all has to do with an app an app that allows users to send self destructing messages We're looking at what we call going dark. That's NYPD Deputy Commissioner John Miller talking about apps like Wicker and Telegram that he says are getting into the hands of terrorists and allowing them to communicate secretly. We are seeing not just iPhones that can't be cracked, but entire communication systems that are designed to be impenetrable

2:22:02 and we're seeing those become the primary tools of terrorists. San Francisco-based Wicker calls its app a secure communications platform you can send text, video and photos and it's all encrypted another app Telegram is similar security analysts worry apps like these allow ISIS to plan attacks without detection so when you ask a question like How could they miss this? Technology is becoming a big enabler. But Wicker calls that online privacy, a universal human right and one it's willing to defend Earlier this month, Wicker joined other tech companies in this amicus brief defending Apple against its ongoing privacy challenge from the federal government

2:22:43 Miller says he fears terrorists speaking to each other on the dark internet could lead to direct attacks here in the US. We reached out to Wicker for a comment but have not yet heard back. Okay... I smell honey pot! Yeah, i'm looking at this now so they've raised 69 million dollars In a with a series where they had some seed funding with the series B of 30 and two rounds at 39 Which may be a down round. Let me see I happen to know a lot about this shit Let's see who's in it Breyer capital Al Sop Louis partners CME group Dolby family ventures Eileen Burbridge Gilman Louie, I guess that part of the Louis partners the Knight Foundation Juniper Networks Richard A Clark Richard A Clark

2:23:34 Isn't that Dick Clark? Yeah, it's dick Clark. That's dick He got in on the on this just had him on a minute ago Got in on the seed run the series a not to see the series a beza personally yeah Yeah So the X NSA guy do a better job of covering this crap Wow wow hold on I gotta go hit the chime Be careful! Wow how easy was that It didn't take much. It could have been a nice little tagline by saying, oh by the way former NSA deputy... was he a deputy? I think it was something like that. He was one of these hot shots. Yeah is an investor and early investor in the company in series A for this so-called secure platform maybe we should ask him some questions in Congress how come you're investing then at a hole? And they could go both ways

2:24:29 It could be because one of those Breyer, at least one fund in there has got some sort of... I mean obviously they didn't make it too obvious by having that CIA investment group jump in. Oh, they could be and therefore all you know it. They don't have to... You mean In-Q-Tel? I don't see In-Q-Tel in there Yeah but it's also possible that they may... Yeah through someone else Of course In-Q-Tel can go away because they got enough money And say here we're gonna give you some rounds But you have to sign this document Because this is a... This can't be discussed Right That's unbelievable. It even has his initial, Richard A Clark with the E at the end it is the same guy he's an early investor in going dark app this is an outrage! Yeah and I'm sure he called up Miller says hey we got a bunch of money in this little operation can you find some way to promote it? Hey tell me that isn't worth your five dollars a month huh come on that was good yeah jeez

2:25:29 Well, we gotta stay all over this now. We gotta keep it- we got to tweet him! How much did you invest in Wicker? Hey! Are you contributing to the terrorism problem?! Dick!? And by the way... The thing that kind of the giveaway I'm always reminded of like these operations I've planned for myself here for a minute and i'm sorry There's operas that are run by the mafia, for example. White Front used to be a mafia-owned organization and they always like to put in the name somehow in the name what's going on so the cognoscenti this is like code it's like 33 wicker? Wicker like a wick and a candle? A jar of the moth? Honey pot hello? I think I need you do New York Times crossword

2:26:17 So there you go. That's a callback, huh? You like that one? Yeah it's for the Rubicon which is getting harder and harder to get hold of So, this is a quick little clip. Just the thing that came on the news this morning I clipped it to lead into something bigger. The city of Houston is trying to save money by limiting its recycling service so residents who want to recycle glass will now have to drop it off at a recycling center themselves. The city will no longer pick it up. The mayor says that the move will help them close a $160 million budget shortfall Now I believe this could be big mistake after

2:27:00 Wait, play that whole clip again. It's really not that interesting Well it is to me Sorry The city of Houston is trying to save money by limiting its recycling service So residents who want to recycle glass will now have to drop it off at a recycling center themselves The city will no longer pick it up the mayor says that the move will help them close a 160 million dollar budget shortfall Okay What does it mean? So now this is because in California we've had this. You got to get I worked again, I'll go back to my olden days when I worked at the air pollution district. I did a lot of inspections of glass plants

2:27:40 And there used to be bins and bins and bins. It's not as though that glass wasn't being recycled, it was called cull I think they had a name for this stuff but they had just huge containers full of broken glass that they ran through the glass factory a second time and they would do this constantly and that's where most brown glass for example is a result of this mixed glass although they tried to keep us the color separate And then the CalPIRG, this operation, this activist operation came up with the bottle bill where you have to now pay five cents or six cents extra every time you buy a bottle. So for recycling costs even though this was going on

2:28:23 commonly and effortlessly. And then they get to the places like Berkeley, you have to recycle your glass in a special bin and all this other nonsense. It's for no good reason! They've always been doing this but now that this happens? You're telling me that this is a money loser so all of the money we were supposed to be paying for these bottles and then the recycling process is losing money?! So the whole thing as a loser!? This is bullshit!! Moreover, when you learn or what I've learned that recycled glass is going to be a very valuable commodity. So they're making a mistake in Houston and I don't care how you want to cut the budget but glass is the wrong one and I base this on anonymous producer who clued me in and suggested I watch a documentary

2:29:16 Which I did and i'll start by asking you the question what is after air and water What, is the most voluminous and most Traded and most smuggled commodity in the world Well since she's on my vest. I would assume sand absolutely sand it is And this documentary called Sand Wars, which I recommend everybody watch. You can probably get it on the Torrens but I'd recommend you pay the people who did that and get it off Amazon for $299. Sand... we have been dredging the oceans and now we're dredging the rivers for sand

2:29:57 And sand comes from the mountains, you know. Thousands if not hundreds of thousands of years journey to finally get into the ocean and when... Sand is interesting because if you dredge sand out but you don't really control what happens You don't control the ocean and sand that is around the hole that you dredged out just starts to flow in Now, the number one consumer of sand crazily enough because they're in the desert is Dubai. Because you need sand it's how all modern buildings and construction are put together as you know... You can't just change this process overnight of how they use sand to create concrete mainly. So, if you have a lot of sand that's built up out of sand, then you don't want to build a building on top of it. You want to build a building with a lot of sand so that

2:30:47 And there are smugglers, this is an incredible trade of just sand. The sand in the desert is unusable! It's kind of crazy bringing sand to the Arabs in the desert They can't use that sand because it has been blown around so much and doesn't have the structure which is why people are now looking at recycling glass to turn it back into sand which does have pretty much the same structure and can be used for construction But what is interesting Is that all this talk about sea levels rising It's because the sand is making the land masses disappear. The number one place in the world where sand mining is so prevalent that it has affected the country, can you guess which country? I know Florida! The Maldives... The guys who are always fucking complaining yes because they've sold all their sand In this documentary you see the island is just slipping away into the ocean You can't stop it

2:31:46 And so this... By the way, when I said Florida. I know it's not a country some idiot is going to say you think Florida is a country Don't worry about it So this documentary was mind-blowing This rising of the oceans Is because the land masses are slipping away due to the dredging of sand for outrageous amounts of construction Well actually the oceans are lowering and this would explain it too Although it's a minor amount of sand-breaking. Right, right... So watch this documentary! Sand Wars It's really... and all of the sudden you just get it You're like oh my god no wonder And its a disaster In Florida because you did bring up Florida They've had erosion on their beaches for as long I've been going to Florida they call them the groins or the girders Or whatever they call them things in the ocean trying to stop the sand from flowing away

2:32:45 What they're doing is, these communities like in Florida. They go out maybe 15 miles and they dredge up sand 15 miles out and then they spew that back on to recreate the beach but of course it's only going to slip back within a year because it's trying to get back to fill up that hole that was just dredged at 15 miles out And so the beaches disappear and then it's sold to us, as sea level is rising we're all gonna die. We're gonna die but that's because you know we're all gonna die but it's not necessarily because of global warming and I have not heard anyone talk about this problem. And guess what? Nobody ever will! Uh...I don't know. I think recycled glass is going to be a good business

2:33:35 Well, it's always been a very important part of the glass manufacturing business. It's always been a very important part! It's nothing new and my complaint was that now they've kind of institutionalized it so you can get two or five cents or dime for every bottle that they sell at the grocery store and where does that money go? It's just a scam! Yeah I understand that... But that's what I was bitching about. The sand thing is different, that's interesting. Yeah. Sand wars Exactly why you can't use the sand in the deserts that you're talking about which is really very powdery... I will say that there is excitement in a sandstorm yeah I will say that I don't see how it can be used maybe not used in concrete but I don't think it can be used in glass manufacturing That's not the big business It's construction That's the business

2:34:25 And, you know... and they've made all this whole man-made islands and everything in Dubai which are now empty of course. But we're building ourselves out of our land! So the funny thing in Florida is that you got these people that are building all these constructions with the sand it's just taking away their beachfront It's going to go away pretty quickly I'm glad you're panicked about it. I'm not panicked, i think its really interesting Well are you going to have a link in the show notes of whatever this documentary is? Of course! How do you get it? Does it come on YouTube or does it something that you have to download illegally As I said you can get off Amazon for $299 Ok But also put in there the Maldives sand mining problems and You can read all about it The Maldives those guys were always coming They were number one with their hand out Hey we need some money for climate change Yeah why don't you no sell your sand Which is part of your land

2:35:22 Now, hello. Look our beaches are gone! There's rising tides digging themselves into oblivion. Very good yeah that's all I got John what do you got? Okay it was good enough. Yeah i mean i have um...I do have a real newser if you want to real newser Well, let me play something first. I got a Bill Nye if you really want to know... I do want to get us back on track about the- I noticed that Fast Company Magazine said that the food of the future is bugs? No! Yes, some a-hole there is promoting eating bugs and that we've been pushing the starvation you know the Depression style of food. Yes what people eat kale? It's a depression food they eat mac and cheese as the depression food Bugs it's not a depression food whether it's a great idea But here's a new one New way I'm going about this play this one This is the cell

2:36:24 Sell a food date law. Well, there is a push to clear up expiration dates on food labels to save a lot of wasted food. It's all in response to a report presented at Stanford this month that found the U.S. loses $215 billion dollars in food waste every year Assemblyman David Chu believes part of the problem is that there are too many different kinds of food labels like best used by or sell-by. His bill says there should only be two kinds So what they want to do, obviously is to change the day so we're eating rotten food. This is just adding to the buggy... Are they going to label? ...tail heating But John aren't bugs can you keep doing those indefinitely did it need to be dried? Is there dried? Yeah. Is there dried bugs I don't think you can eat or keep a fresh bug indefinitely Well why not? It will attract ants Won't there just be a bug counter like there is for a butcher and there's a fish guy at Whole Foods and then we'll have the the bug guy

2:37:24 I think a bug counter at Whole Foods would do it for me. And he'd have one of those beekeeper outfits on, he be in a cage and he catches them for you live. A little net! How many grasshoppers? Hold on... Ants So i played those clips of Hillary earlier and I've noticed that one thing about her that if you just doesn't really take a lot You can just tweak her voice a little bit and she comes out sounding like a man. Our enemies are constantly adapting, so we have to do the same For example Brussels demonstrated clearly we need to take a harder look at security protocols. Alright borderliner for you, borderline. I used three variables

2:38:20 tempo speed and pitch. And that's what she sounds like as a man. She had a set of balls on her there, man. Good one. Yeah well I could have pumped up the ball. That was very good! I liked that a lot. My face hurts Oh man, too much. Too much! I got one for you. I was actually going to ask you before you do another one on me... Do you have anything to share with us? Two things happened first of all in the Netherlands that i should mention that there will be no talk about the terrorist who was sent to Holland and then to Belgium they'll be we can't have any of that because Johan Cruyff passed away. I don't know Johan Cruyff. You might know him as Cruyff

2:39:11 He was the legendary number 14 soccer player for the Dutch team and for Ajax, of course the Amsterdam team. He passed away very young 69 I think And the whole country is just like they can't I mean this guy is Is the country in a way? For many many years he's like that you know it's him and Pele pretty much if you ask real soccer nuts They'll tell you that Rion Cruyff was one of the greats. But I wasn't like an athlete would pass away at 69 Yeah, cancer Oh but i thought maybe you could share something with us because I think he deserves a lot more and it always happens when You don't want to die when there's a terrorist attack in Belgium but Andy Grove of Intel passed at 79 yeah yeah I thought maybe you would have A little thing too Well as a guy has a couple anecdotes about him He is actually kind of a prick

2:40:04 So let's make sure that it is not mentioned in any of the obituaries. Too soon maybe? I don't know! No, no he would...I mean that's just like Steve Jobs was not a nice person. But Andy had a bunch of characteristics one he was the hardest driving CEO the company has ever seen since or before and he is the one who also started to feud with AMD which should have never happened Why not? There's a long story behind now which I could tell sometime but he did against the wishes of Robert Noyce and he started a feud with AMD. And Jerry Sanders, who ran AMD at the time who used to

2:40:41 host noise in Los Angeles and Hollywood where he were Sanders lived most of the time and They made a gentleman's agreement that AMD would always have access to second sourcing Intel chips And Andy didn't know much on that which caused a feud between the two companies because Andy was just a hard-driving guy The doc the funny stories about Andy was that he had always used a Macintosh That's interesting. Yes, and his nickname at the company was Mr Clean He apparently was a obsessive compulsive clean freak or purell person I don't know about the Purell part but he was apparently kept a very neat and tidy environment And would very not happy with anybody who didn't do the same Did you ever meet him? Yeah, well i met him a number of times I chatted with him a lot Any anecdote

2:41:35 No, all he did was complain. He would complain mostly about AMD It's like oh those bastards you know they should be out of business he would go on and on about it And last time I saw him when he was just getting into the...getting sick he um..I don't think he recognized me or anything it was weird Yeah that's Andy Grove Then I never liked him That should be on his tombstone. I never liked it. Why would he care about that? No, he doesn't care but that's a lie. I appreciate your frankness yeah and of course Rob Ford died the mayor up there and yeah, that was a weird death I thought well he had cancer to everyone has cancer Yeah, just like you've always flown around the pricker Okay

2:42:27 Let's just fall back. Okay, remember the pricker? Yeah yeah well the Americans are starting up again on FX so we'll have more prickers soon. Yeah the russian people out there just go google pricker THE PRICKER! The Pricker. So I have a clip that has got a question for you... But let that be a lesson children hookers and blow is not always good everything in moderation This is the anti-marijuana report. Okay, do you have a question for me or should we play this? It'll be after the clip

2:43:06 A new study by UC Davis finds people who use marijuana regularly ended up with lower pain and less skilled jobs. Researchers say they also face financial difficulties and relationship problems, and those who oppose the legalization of marijuana say this is one reason why it should not be legal. What they're now seeing is what we've been saying for a long time. So it's not surprising." Not surprising! The study followed close to 1,000 participants in New Zealand from birth until age 38 Okay... I feel the question coming What's wrong with this report? Well here is what i heard. I heard if you smoke marijuana

2:43:51 You get less high-paying jobs, you get shitty jobs. Your relationships break apart and I'm thinking wait a minute... ...I'm a twice divorce podcaster! Maybe there's something to this report? Maybe there is something that should pay attention to?! I don't think that's what you meant though. No I'm gonna let you, this is a short clip. So i want you down to listen to the report instead of laughing at it because its so idiotic and some Berkeley woman comes out with some quote, This is why we didn't wanna have it! I thought you were playing it to ask me if i recognized any of these patterns. Well, these patterns are good now! That's... I mean, I'm high right now hold on let's play the clip. A new study by UC Davis finds people who use marijuana regularly ended up with lower pain and less skilled jobs researchers say they also face financial difficulties and relationship problems and those who oppose the legalization of marijuana say this is one reason why it should not be legal

2:44:51 What they're now seeing is what we've been saying for a long time. So it's not surprising. The study followed close to 1,000 participants in New Zealand from birth until age 38. Okay! Alright... Where is this study from? New Zealand No University of California Davis up the road Oh you're right yes that's what they said in the beginning okay So what has this got to do with New Zealand? That's where they tested it, I guess. Are you telling me that somebody gave UC Davis a bunch of money to do... This is one of those paid deals. You pay and you can do this. Anyone can do this by the way. Go to university and give them money to do some work for you. This is not unusual. Yes, pharmaceuticals do it. Everybody does this. Everybody knows this. I could do it now who gave them money to go to New Zealand

2:45:50 as opposed to just coming over here to Berkeley or going down the road to Sacramento. Well, hold on maybe... well I don't know who but i know how the conversation went Hey man! I got a great idea let's go to New Zealand smoke some weed dude That's how it would pitch it but I'm not sure who paid for that This is bullcrap this report you can't check on it because it's in New Zealand This is a nonsense report. This is a scam to keep the public in California where this should be legalized and it's as though, gee, I know so you shouldn't be legalizing everybody smoking it now You know how hard it is to get one of those prescription drug prescription for using marijuana from one of these guys It doesn't take anything everyone I know who likes to smoke pot all the time I tell them get the prescription so in case you get pulled over then your cops decide to do something about it

2:46:48 This is just another one of these moments to try to screw the citizens of California, make it as illegal as they can so they can keep growing at ridiculous prices and have an underground that makes all the money. It should be legalized period I'm done Anyways, a bogus, bogus news story. I hate it! Yeah, I can tell and you're not even a user Not even a user? You're not a user man If i was man...I'd be a lot different on this show You'll be nailing every intro dude No, you're still on that yeah No, I'm not really

2:47:31 All right, well what can we expect? What is happening for the rest of the week. I won't be able to get much news out of Holland it'll be nothing but soccer retrospectives they're just off they're done The Belgians... That's a good one They probably killed him Well, this is what's going to happen if you've seen Bill Clinton recently. Yeah that's the one I'm looking at he's looking worse by the day isn't he? God these last few...I'm gonna put these in a newsletter i got some pictures of him that were isolated it's like holy mackerel wake up have some coffee do something! I think Cruz is gonna be taken out with this uh..i don't know about the hookers that's not what i heard i heard that he was having an affair The National Enquirer front page today

2:48:13 Five prostitutes talk about Ted Cruz. No, yes Yeah, that's got Trump written all over it But we heard about it Months ago months yeah, but has it yeah? But they didn't turn this big they didn't open the valve okay here's the spigot I'll read you the headline. I'm looking at it now cruises five Oh cruise is five secret mistresses and one of them is a hooker No wonder the Mormons liked him and voted him into Utah. Makes sense!

2:49:02 I'm sure this is the reason. Presidential candidate Ted Cruz is trying to survive an explosive dirt file on the finger-wagging conservative senator and the new issue of The National Enquirer on newsstand now reveals how the report... I like the use of the finger wagging as an adjective thing right there, boom! Finger wagging conservative senator Yeah, finger-wagging conservative senator. That's dynamite writing for this sort of writing. Reveals how the reports say the staunch Republican is hiding five different mistresses. Staunch! The Inquirer reports that Cruz's claimed mistresses include a foxy political consultant and high place DC attorney There are also whispers of other intimate late night sessions Ted has had in Washington and even a wild sex worker makes the cut

2:49:53 Wild, wild sex. I love America! I love how we roll this is it's just people always ask why Americans are pretty much happy? This is the reason We're happier than the Danes. They were happy about this stuff man This is great now if you want to mention something because people don't do listeners especially don't have a clue about what we feel about The National Enquirer people always say oh consider the source considered as though that's exactly what we're doing The source of the National Enquirer as a source for this sort of thing pays absolutely top-notch because they pay for these stories. Journalists generally won't do it since it's unethical. It's unethical!

2:50:39 It's fantastic. It's an outstanding product I have to go get my paper copy Most of it is just garbage but when it comes to political stuff like this they nail this so this is happening So, this is the end of the Ted Cruz campaign Yes he's over and this Donald Trump turnaround is interesting I wonder if he can keep it alive He has been very quiet He's just waiting for Cruz to die out We're gonna expose the photos of the woman, the other one. I said in a couple shows ago that and we talked about this maybe a month ago about how the right wing talk show guys are talking about how Fox is going to sell out to Trump Yes And then i've been observing note note...I don't see any evidence of this Right Ah! I have now as of today changed my mind Okay I watched the lineup of the Hannity

2:51:33 and Riley, and the news. Oh is this the thing? They were on stage you mean that thing? No no the network itself Just the network yeah And Hannity who's the real tub thumper for the Republicans they're all in on Trump now all of a sudden to an outrageous degree he had Laura Ingraham on I'm surprised that Trump wasn't there so they could both blow him it was outrageous So Fox, I think is in the bag. I think that what they said is true. Hmm... So this will be interesting to see how this shakes out but I don't know what's gonna- I don't- Well- I think Rance Pribis was on one of these shows and he was being excoriated by one of these guys and uh.. He said da na na na na! You're just imagining this it's not going to happen Well, I'll tell you this if I had my conspiracy hat on But I'd say Trump is working for the Jews The media is doing exactly what he wants them to do And he'll be president

2:52:33 That's just my conspiracy hat yeah, I could see how you could work that up, but again. I'm high So it doesn't really make any doesn't really matter but all right Yeah, all eyes on bill all eyes on Cruz The Hillary Bernie thing continues to heat up with Democrats being very mean to each other now saying horrible things which is fun and Bernie and Sadly you know We'll see more action in Europe. I just don't see how it can not be happening in any of the EU countries or member states. And I think it's not going to be on a six-week cycle? No, oh no! It's gonna be much tighter. The question is will we see something in the United States that's the question. I doubt it.

2:53:30 I think the analysis where we don't have these communities like that, these radicalized communities where there's no go zones. There is not a no-go zone that i've ever known of! After midnight in some parts of New York or Cleveland, I wouldn't go there but it's not like a no-go zone. When is Easter? Easter this coming Sunday... Oh, we're working on Easter and the word is that Easter is the next attack is what I'm getting from Intel sources Well, we're working on Easter. Just the two of us who seem to work on holidays more than any other podcast broadcast whatever you want to call it advertising We work on...we're gonna be working on Easter I hope people support us for doing that That would be highly appreciated but also will be on vigilant watch If we see something You know we'll say something

2:54:24 Easter would be a good time for it. Yeah, nice religious thing so we can say it's not about religion You know it's fun. It's like cognitive dissonance again. It's like it's not about religion why they did My brain is frying Please clap everybody thank you very much for listening to the best podcast in the universe We appreciate your support Not just the financial support but also everything you send to us you're the experts and It's your postmodern entertainment right here. Maybe it's a value to you So remember us for the Sunday show Dvorak dot org slash NA coming to you from the skyscraper here in the crackpot condo in downtown Austin located in FEMA region 6 In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley Where is supposed? I think it's gonna get really hot today Hot, hot, hot, I'm going to see Dvorak We will return on Sunday right here on No Agenda

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2:56:39 I've told you that the civil rights of LGBT Americans is... Hold on a second. Okay, you know what? No no no no no no no no no no no no no no Hey! Listen You're in my house You're not gonna get a good response from me by interrupting like this Dave, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No no no no no. Shame on you! You shouldn't be doing this. You can either stay and be quiet or we'll have to take ya out. Alright, can we have this person removed please? I'm just gonna wait until we get this done. Okay where was i

2:57:38 As a general rule, I am just fine with a few hecklers. But not when i'm up in the house! My attitude is that if you're eating the actual hors d'oeuvres... You know what im saying? I don't want a door, I don't want a window, I dont want a sliding glass door. I would like people to comply with court orders and thats the conversation we are trying to have. Can this bitch run the country?! Hey, come on guys. No no no no no. Our enemies are constantly adapting so we have to do the same for example Brussels demonstrated clearly that we need to take a harder look at security protocols

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