Episode 803 · Sunday, 28 February 2016

Joe Hitler

A campaign stop in Fayetteville reveals the high-stakes production of the Trump machine while European referendums and digital privacy battles signal a global shift in sovereignty.

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About this episode

Donald Trump arrived at a Tyson Foods hangar in Bentonville, Arkansas, via a low-altitude Boeing 757 flyby to the soundtrack of Air Force One, signaling a high-production shift in the GOP primary. Former Mexican President Vicente Fox sparked international headlines by using profanity to reject Trump’s border wall funding demands during a Univision interview with Jorge Ramos. The campaign stop in Fayetteville also featured Chris Christie and a critique of TSA security measures implemented at private political events.

Secondary developments include Ben Carson claiming the IRS targeted him for an audit following his National Prayer Breakfast speech, a sentiment echoed by Trump regarding his own unreleased tax returns. In the United Kingdom, Nigel Farage and George Galloway formed an unlikely alliance to advocate for Brexit, while the National Crime Agency released a report on the Rotherham child exploitation scandal. Representative Ted Lieu introduced the ENCRYPT Act of 2016 to prevent government backdoors in consumer devices, framing digital privacy as a Fourth Amendment right. Meanwhile, MSNBC host Melissa Harris-Perry departed the network after penning a public letter accusing leadership of silencing her voice during election cycles.

Distinctive moments include a listener meetup in Fayetteville where retired submariners traded stories about life on Trident boats and the cultural history of circumcision. The hosts sampled veteran-owned Lead Slinger’s Bourbon while analyzing the bizarre production failures of the Libertarian Party’s online debate. Sir Guy Boise was elevated to the rank of Black Baron during the global donor roll call.


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CHAPTER 01 / 44 Discussion

Fayetteville Arkansas Airstream Broadcast and Travel Logistics

The broadcast originates from an Airstream trailer in Fayetteville, Arkansas, near the University of Arkansas. A detailed account of the drive from Austin, Texas, describes significant construction delays on I-35 near Waco and Denton. The use of the Waze app is noted for its social networking features during traffic jams.

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00:00 I have a little thing, little package. Adam Curry John C Devorah It's Sunday February 28th 2016 time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 803 This is no agenda Boots on the ground meet subs in the water in Arkansas and broadcasting live from the air stream of consciousness in windy Fayetteville In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I am waiting for the Zephyr, I'm John C. Dvorak. You should have seen me. I was like a Nixon secretary there for a minute. What were you doing? My arms crossed, they got my left toe trying to hit the jingle. Oh that's right your short gear you've made a mistake made an error in judging... I made the number one Boy Scout mistake Yeah he did yeah i was not prepared but I have two of these little Korg nano controllers uh in case one goes bad which you never think it never in a million years would go bad but I have one just in case

01:03 And as I was leaving the house on Thursday, I thought you know this thing never breaks. It's just extra weight and I won't take it Yeah...I don't need to take this extra weight in my luggage because its such a pain in the ass to get into an airplane with all of its extra gear Airplane? Oh that right! You were driving a trailer. You could have thrown in all kinds of stuff I could have taken my whole apartment IN THE TRAILER yeah there we go so I am right now in the middle of a desolate Kind of grass patch. Sounds good! Yeah, it's very windy today. Unbelievably windy the air stream is a-rockin' today

01:43 Don't come a-knockin'. Yeah, we're in Fayetteville Arkansas. Our Kansas? Yeah I've never been there how is it? It is beautiful here! Arkansas... People don't realize what a beautiful state Arkansas is from tip to up to the Ozarks all the way through up to Missouri and left and right its unbelievable. Its stunning really And of course it's not as green as it could well In fact were having better weather here than normal for this time year But I bet when it's green, it is really beautiful. And so we're about five minutes from the University of Arkansas. Tina and The Keeper and I right after the show Thursday had a horrible drive! It was the worst. Why? Well this was about eight hours from Austin to Fayetteville. Since I'd done the show... you know the whole marathon bit of kind of Wednesday night until 130 in the morning get up at 7 you continue do the show were done around 3 30

02:43 And I had to hurry up, get everything ready. Jump in the car and drive down to Buda to pick up the Airstream before they closed So we're finally on the road around 6pm and we decided that we'd stay overnight in the Sanger Denton KOA which is the campground of America? Sanger Denton Ah yes Sanger Denton sanger, so I think it's sanger sanger didn't well somewhere near Denton. Yeah So we're just i-35 all the way up to the west of Dallas and about 10 miles south of Waco

03:23 Which is really only an hour outside of Austin. I-35 comes to a grinding halt for two and half hours, we are barely moving can't get off there's no side roads there's nothing. What is this reason for this stoppage? Well of course I hopped on the ham radio thinking that would get all kinds information You got nothing yeah, no absolutely not Tina had more luck on ways and she's on Waze involved such again all these private messages. Hey baby Hey where how many cars are you behind me? Where are you? You know this way is product that said Google Way I didn't realize it's turning into like a bunch of It's a tinder app for people on the road

04:06 I guess she connected it with a Google profile. I don't know exactly how she logged in, but says hey i'm getting all these private messages uh-huh No one knew what it was. It wasn't an accident by the time we were moving We saw that it was construction they just shut down I-35 but you know What was at that point? Just a little road work 730 in the evening, but anything warned me and you know I could have taken different right no there was no announcement new of no one knew about it It was very annoying so by the time we're in bed. It's 3 a.m.. And we're only halfway But it's okay. It was just that's what it is and then we finished the drive for Friday up here And it's been fantastic meetup Friday night at Falling Horns We have us we have some Fantastic people producing this show John let me just turn the heater off for a second to make a lot of noise entertain everybody

CHAPTER 02 / 44 Discussion

Submariner Meetup and Circumcision Cultural Differences

A listener meetup in Fayetteville featured two retired submariners who served on the same Trident boat. The conversation shifts to life aboard submarines and transitions into a discussion about the cultural history of circumcision in the United States versus the Netherlands. Personal anecdotes regarding gym class experiences and nicknames are shared.

submariners· trident submarine· arkansas· circumcision· netherlands· brian brushwood

05:06 I can't hear the heater. I don't know quite what you're talking about, but okay while you're doing that i'm going to read from this card which has still been laying around here as one sent in by Amanda when she sent us a contribution for one of the recent shows Okay now you can't hear it but I can yeah people listen to this show with ear buds Why? Oh I guess with earbuds you might be able to What? So we had about 20 people at the meetup, which was fantastic. Sounds good! A diverse group once again and not one but two subs in the water guys. Two? Two submariners and I checked... What are submariners doing in Arkansas? Well retired

05:54 Oh retired submariners. We had Jim we had Ben and It gets even crazier They'd both at one point served on the same boat within like a week of each other on the trident They know that and at the time yeah, not at the time But they knew it at the meetup, and I think Jim knows atomic rod-atoms. It's a small but very very loyal group These submariners. Mariners, I'm sorry, submariners not submariners. Submariners and they have boats not ships but I've learned so much Yeah they're not ships They are boats, they're boats That's a huge... And tell the Navy man that ships a boat or boats a ship and he'll deck ya Well, I learned a lot about the submarines Let me see

06:44 If you're underway, it's not gay. That was the first thing I learned These are the guys from the Trident so they're underwater for you know two months at a time or something yeah How do you can do that? I think it takes her you I hope did they do psychological analysis of these people because that is not trivial. Working on one of those boats, I mean... Oh no kidding? It's cramped and you're if you have even it-I'm not claustrophobic but i can see where get under your get on your nerves You get to know everybody very very well Very well then the second thing I was told is because they sometimes there's a I guess British or Dutch sailors on the boat and they speak of the dutch tips Not everyone will. What's a dutch tip? It's a circumcision joke

07:37 Maybe people don't know this, but I think pretty much all Americans maybe not anymore are circumcised. All American men? That's that's not true a lot that's not true Yeah well yeah if you're living in the 40s Well nowadays now there's a big movement that started in I don't know 10 15 20 years to milk more than 20 years ago is To end the practice I remember moving to the Netherlands in 72 and everyone was looking at me really... Holland was very, very liberal. You know it's in sport clubs men and women showering together none of that is there anymore of course the puritanical US media has made us all crazy about that but I remember as a kid in school you know gym class or whatever people like what's wrong with you? What?

08:33 Because the whole show about it when I was a kid you use gym classes everyone walking around naked to yeah Yeah, no what they do anymore. They don't even have Jim so Who cares if your sir? I have an idea of a solution Just stop Jim What's your solution stop Jim and you know to worry about there is about the showers man oh I used to bowl with this guy. Actually, I don't know if I should use his name. The likelihood of him hearing the show... But he used to...I wasn't in his classes but it's just a thing that happens with kids. He was also two years older than me but

09:17 He used to be, everybody just remembered him as No-Show Gilbert. That's his name. No Show Gilbert? No Show Gilbert would take a shower with his jockey shorts on. Oh gosh! That's sad... that's sad Kids can be so traumatized by the smallest things. Because they got a nickname for him Yeah they called me Turtleneck Curry I died it was horrible They called you Turtleneck Curry Why is this? You had a long neck Remember we're talking about circumcision Oh, I get it. Wow! Anyway onward to a different way so let's get back to Fayetteville because this is one of our reports from boots on the ground and it can do you so well. Yes. So um... It could not be any more coincidental or maybe its just the universe coming together for us that Donald Trump decided to uh..do a stop in Fayetteville actually Bentonville. Benton? Bentonville? The airport

CHAPTER 03 / 44 Discussion

Donald Trump Fayetteville Rally Production and TSA Security

A first-hand account of a Donald Trump campaign rally at a Tyson Foods hangar in Bentonville, Arkansas, details the logistical setup. Observations include the presence of TSA checkpoints at the private event and the diverse demographic of the attendees. The rally production is critiqued for its "safe space" protest zones and strict security measures.

donald trump· fayetteville· bentonville· tyson foods· walmart· tsa· airport security

10:20 Right to near Fayetteville on Saturday. Could it get any better than that for the show? No, it looks like you're a groupie Yeah in fact I did get some hate on Facebook for this we're saying hey, but I'm here at the Trump rally If people like oh so disappointing So disappointing be the joke. I am going to see Hillary Now, of course I'm not there to listen to Donald Trump say the same thing because that's pretty much what they are. It was like whatever and by the way I want thank our dude named Ben here one of the subs in the water who took me picked me up at the Airstream took me over there we had everything arranged this was my focus of course was on who is their what were they like

11:13 And what was the production? The production was really of importance to me. Just how does this Trump machine work So they had hired actually so here in In Fayetteville two large, it was a couple large companies but the famous ones are Walmart Which pretty much everyone has heard of and also Tyson Foods Yeah, yeah, they own the state. Yeah, and then are they mainly poultry or their chicken or there lots of Isn't Tyson the one that started off as a chicken plucker? Yeah, well so they have Tyson Aviation. I presume they fly their own food around and it seems like in that scale is probably cost-effective So they offered one of their hangars and this is a hanger where I think when it was full probably about 5 000 people

12:02 the big hangar. And it's, you know we've seen this with Trump before you have the open...the hangar is open and your looking out kind of runway 33 I think was a little bit to the left so you could see planes coming in head on as they're kinda landing on that runway there's a podium halfway back there's the press and media area which is all gated off with risers where their cameras up there So, coming up to the airport there was already quite a line and we were an hour-and-a-half early for this noon appearance. There were cops everywhere helping everybody park it was really really orderly there were a few protesters who had signs who were put into a

12:52 Safe space. I think someone actually called it the safe space at the inside because it was a private event They you know they were making announcements like if you want to protest Please do that outside being your in the safe space or the free speech zone, but he didn't say free speed I think was like a safe space It was it wasn't like them to change of the free speech zone is offensive and private space. What they're doing is, remember that protest that took place at the college? Bring some muscle! Yeah yeah yeah That was we have our safe space. So... They co-opted it Yes the safespace I like to see co-opting It was very good

13:32 And then they were making announcements from time to time, you know. So this is not a public place so you don't have necessarily... We have the right to ask you to leave if you're being disruptive and the way we do that is... It's not on a public street or anything? No it was private. It was all private And so the, I should have recorded it. It was hard to record stuff. It was, I did but it didn't work out so well and as an announcement was you know if If you do feel like he need to protest then we will circle you and go Trump Trump Trump Trump and slowly move your outside So it was very clear this was not going to be There's not going to be any pushback from anybody inside the event The people there tons of families lots of kids

14:15 Lots of brown Americans and white Americans. I would say probably 40, almost half were brown which you know kind of goes against some conventional thinking i believe that it's just a bunch of A-hole white racist supremacist dickheads. So coming into the hangar there because it's an airport facility they had TSA and they had metal detectors Strangely enough, the TSA was still asking us not to bring any liquids into the event. What? Yeah that was very bizarre. These drones are just because they've been programmed! But they were really kind... It wasn't like the typical TSA experience except for that one point You know this reminds me I did just a take it little diversion so i'm sitting in an airplane

15:16 on the ground, this is in Brazil and this in Fort Delays or someplace. And I'm sitting there with a little puddle jumper well not a puddle jumper it was like a small plane though. I'm sitting in the airplane to Stewart and I open my laptop start doing some computing the stewardess comes over and tells me close the laptop. I said why you're on the ground? She says no you can only use it above 10 thousand feet But I'm on the ground, the plane's not even moving. We're just sitting here." No and the rule is you cannot use a laptop under 10,000 feet. You have to be at 10,000 feet. This is unbelievable! There's no logic it's just stupid. So the TSA they were asking... Although they may don't want you throwing in the water bottles at Donald. No, no it wasn't that all. They were all actually everyone was really cool. The sheriff, two state troopers everybody was there.

16:12 in camo with little looking glasses, making sure no one was going to do anything bad. This of course had a downside because when you have a lot of families with kids by the time Trump was there and halfway through his speech kids came they want to pee they're thirsty they've eaten all the goldfish in their bag so people did start to leave I think we got in it's about two and half three thousand people It filled up to five maybe six slowed away halfway through, which you'd never see on television. I don't think Trump cares because he understands this is really a television event and let me tell you about the production of this because there's some things very very wrong with what he's doing There are some things that are fantastic... This will be interesting First before Trump arrives and we're kind of all waiting for it It's like Marcus Garvey coming in from Africa to land in Jamaica The God will come in

CHAPTER 04 / 44 Discussion

Patriotic Rituals and Media Disrespect at Political Rallies

The pre-rally program included prayers, the Star Spangled Banner, and the Pledge of Allegiance, reflecting the local culture of Arkansas. Disrespect is noted among the press corps, who remained on their phones or laptops during these patriotic rituals. The history and appropriateness of the national anthem at sporting events are briefly debated.

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17:09 They had people speaking, there were some local politicians and then it was quite kind of dare I say moving in a way where in succession the some pastor local pastor said a prayer which was mainly you know Lord please protect Donald Trump and his family so that he can help us. I'm not a super religious guy as we all know, but it was nice to see everyone kind of thinking and positive thoughts Then a local singer. I wish I had the name She did this star spangled banner And she hit the high note was very good and then a couple of veterans came up and did the pledge hold on a second yet? To stop so you're telling me that before Trump lands his airplane comes in there's what why yep What is the point of singing the Star Spangled Banner America?

18:01 Yeah, well it was first the prayer then the Star Spangled Banner then the Pledge of Allegiance. What? Okay yeah I want to say something i'm not against any of these things... So I mean, and I have nothing against the Pledge of Allegiance at the daily school. You get up and you start your school day with something—at least it's a ritual, it's a good thing—but to add it to every single...I'm going to the dry cleaners honey! Okay let's uh hold on a second, oh say can you...it just makes no sense to me."

18:39 Well, the way it's positioned. This is a patriotic Saturday afternoon We're here with our families we're thinking about this great country you have to also Understand the people who live in Arkansas they may not be the same as Silicon Valley They might not be the same exactly thinking the way they do about the East Coast So it was more like an event You know It was a family event and America What was disturbing to me personally is that during both the Star Spangled Banner and the National Anthem, the prostitutes in the press box were not... no one was paying attention. Not standing there on their phone, they're doing their laptops, they're doing stand-ups really disrespectful I don't know, I feel that's one of the few

19:29 patriotic things I still like to do is if there's a... If they're singing or it was the... The Pledge of Allegiance, then I'll stop for a second. Is that odd? Is it odd that I think they should do that. It just seems so jaded about everything, you know what i mean? So jaded! I don't think its odd that you think that way and I agree And I think you hit the nail on the head with the word jaded which is kind of like my complaining but Im not so bad that I wouldn't stand at attention during the singing of the national anthem in a football game of where I believe is, you know... And football games makes a little sense. You have them once a week and it's kind of a militaristic game. A baseball? I'm not so sure. Let me see. Oh, about the people? I mean… And by the way this national anthem for these games really only began in the 50s, I believe. They never do this in the 1930s.

CHAPTER 05 / 44 Discussion

Trump Plane Flyby and Campaign Soundtrack Errors

Donald Trump's arrival featured a low-altitude flyby in his Boeing 757, set to the "Air Force One" movie soundtrack. The production is criticized for poor timing and a repetitive three-song playlist that included Elton John's "Tiny Dancer" and The Rolling Stones' "You Can't Always Get What You Want." Legal requirements for performance fees through ASCAP and BMI are discussed.

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20:27 I'll repeat, I love our national anthem. It reflects so well who we are with the rockets red glare and the bombs bursting in air. We have the only national anthem that includes war. Boom! Now, here is that they really mess things up going on. The ground production then whoever's in charge of the Trump ground team it's really pretty good but you are really missing out on a few things and here's what I saw in the production so they have well first of all I was trying to track Trump's plane and it turns out he has

21:05 Received one of those I guess somehow the FAA is allowing certain aircraft and no longer be trackable through some of the regular Aviation apps and websites we can track. Oh, track their status yeah Then his registration is November 7 5-7 alpha Foxtrot Then I finally was able to track it through an FAA website access that i have because im a pilot. So, I could kind of see him coming in from Oklahoma and he was 10 minutes late so I could see that he was ten minutes late Now we're all on this hangar there's the big opening you can see the sky And then finally there comes Trump's plane is on its way in He circles around John he did a 400 foot flyby into 757

21:51 That was the baddest ass thing I've ever seen. Because 757 at 400-500 feet, it's nose is up! It's like... It's almost like the Concorde plowing through the air just you know literally plowing through the air slow slow speed very impressive very impressive and in that point when he's doing that this is the music that's playing the whole time so oh my god look here he comes and there's a flyby This is the soundtrack to Air Force One, the movie with the Harrison Ford. And this is what they're playing! Now... here's the problem

22:30 He was 10 minutes late and they started the track on time, but it just played and played. And we're all like oh here it comes! I'm like no that's Continental because I had the apps. No thats not him thats Continental Airlines. And then music continues to play and everyone is like whaaaaat? So there was no coordination thats not good Somehow they didn't have the coordination of...I thought they had contact with the aircraft but something wasn't happening now But what was worse They only had three songs on the tape that they played for about 15 minutes, including this bombastic piece. And they repeated this one twice because they finally got it right when he was arriving... But there were two other songs. Rolling Stones' You Can't Always Get What You Want

23:17 And then for some reason, which we heard three times including when he was rolling up because he does the fly-by. He lands comes by... ...He passes by the hangar then turns around to have the left side with it with a door near the stairs and this is his arrival which should have been there should've been this it should have been this music like but it was this See if you can hear That is really hard to hear this again here now, let's try this one. This may be better for you to hear a lot This is what's playing while he's arriving Elton John's tiny dancer well his plane It was a gigantic cock up He said all the BAM bombastic music and then he's in three times we already heard this song

24:23 The gayest possible shit song ever And he does he's not aware of it because by the time these doors open knees down It's over, but they've already played it twice and we're all looking each other like a couple of producers were there What's the messaging here tiny dancer? Elton John would be horrified So they have no take. By the way, those public playing of these songs has to be... They have to get approval for that you can't I'm sure neither one of those songs were written or this were signed off. You know that's not entirely true

25:00 That is not entirely true. You have to pay ASCAP BMI using it in a venue, I don't know if you can be forbidden by law or by statutory... Ah! You're right but still have to sign off from ASCAP there's gotta be some money exchanged here Oh no, you have to pay the fee for it No doubt about it and I think It gets a little fuzzy If you use it during promotional activity because then there's a sink fee if its an ad or something Its complicated Musicians like to complain about it. I didn't give him permission, but you really don't need permission You just need to pay the performance fee But regardless tiny dancer are you kidding me? That was that was really bad Someone says though that's almost like a dirty trick. I considered it I considered it, but I could say I was standing right I went over and look John I'm looking at these guys and seeing does the guy have con he didn't have contact with the aircraft I saw that

26:00 Then it's like that's all they had. They had this three songs, the big Air Force One thing they had you can't always get what you want which is also... What? No! That's not a message where you can't always get what you want well thanks I guess i'll go home then Really? Where's the big savior? The Big Savior so there are some real production problems on the ground although for television of course it does not matter It really doesn't matter. It looked fantastic. I take their little bite and that's it, they're done? Yeah i think it looked probably really good. Well I think a report on television which you just gave us but without the television part... A report on television would be valuable and a critique but we don't hear any of that He went on for quite awhile which is where he lost the audience in the venue which didn't make that much difference for the media. First of all when you have

CHAPTER 06 / 44 Discussion

Chris Christie Appearance and Fayetteville Venue Quality

Chris Christie joined Donald Trump on stage in Fayetteville, where Trump addressed the ongoing Trump University lawsuit. The local entertainment scene in Fayetteville is praised, specifically the Walmart Amphitheater, for providing high-quality production and reasonably priced tickets compared to major metropolitan areas.

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26:57 If you saw the television, I'm just looking at this from production. Seriously... The plane rolls up they push the steps up and then there's an announcement, Oh please welcome Governor of New Jersey Chris Christie! So Christie and Trump both walk down and that was boo. The aircraft as a backdrop has really big positive and really big negative The positive is when on television it had a very interesting, because it's black on the top and has stripes in the middle and then white on the bottom. It has a very interesting kind of sheen and hue in the background which I don't know if its intentional but looked pretty cool because you have Trump standing there just to see the bottom of the aircraft but if you pull this shot out

27:43 Any aircraft, black is a hard color. It looks grubby on his plane honestly Especially after you've flown You fly you land the black color just it looks kind of trashy. It's a minor point I know it's a minor point but yeah, it's a minor point Then he, you know, he did it very typical. He went into some great detail about the lawsuit of Trump University which he felt was necessary I presume for the television cameras because that's when people got, you know, people started to kind of leave trickle away slowly. Oh yeah they're not interested now and I talked a couple folks there was one guy with a body had that six kids and his wife was originally from Australia

28:29 And they said, no you got a beautiful... You were just in the audience with everybody else and you were being gregarious. Gregarious? Yeah What does that mean? That means that you will chat with the strangers standing next to you Oh yeah of course! I say hey you've got a beautiful family so thank you very much and then it's so fun you take your kids this event Yeah, I might as well be brainwashing him instead of this crap. Is that what he said? Yes, and I'd rather be brainwashing him than the crap that we're being brainwashed with Yeah, yeah. That was... But a lot of young, a lot of college kids were there you know not your- You know it I'd say most these people if you met them on the street you wouldn't go like you know scanners going, AHHHHH REPUBLICAN! There's no way to see that. There are no skinheads or no gangs everyone was really polite and courteous It was it was a family outing it was very very surprising what it was

29:31 Yeah, and it was just... I think it was just nice. The funny thing that I've always kind of found amusing about areas like this part of Arkansas where you can go see Trump—I mean, I'm not going to be able to see Trump if he comes around here. It would be impossible or any place else in the big city. You don't get to see this stuff. And another example is say a major rock band comes through If I want to go see them, they'll be playing at the ballpark or something. This is a waste of my time! But if you're in Fayetteville and the band happens to be going through, they'll play it at a reasonably sized venue? They play at Amp which is... that's the Walmart amphitheater. Beautiful 10 thousand seaters. And then tickets will be reasonably priced

30:14 And you can get a good seat and it's high quality production because there is the group doing it. It's very interesting experience if you're living in Fayetteville compared to living in Berkeley, and people are different. Nice! Of course you always have the You know, you see them kind of like the snowbirds but they're here in Arkansas. I'm just saying like they're near 80 and they've retired... They look like they are kind of happy about life but then they have all the glittery American flag hats and stuff and the glittery jackets and it's cute! Yeah well there is a question of taste No taste for sure

CHAPTER 07 / 44 Discussion

Donald Trump Speech Patterns and Tax Audit Defense

An analysis of Donald Trump's linguistic style highlights his use of simple, one-to-two syllable words as an effective sales tactic. Trump's defense regarding his unreleased tax returns is examined, specifically his claim that ongoing IRS audits prevent their release. Comparisons are made to Mitt Romney's 2012 tax return controversy.

donald trump· mitt romney· irs· tax returns· linguistics· nlp

31:05 But the rest, John it was just family. It was once... Trump was doing a television event this is not for the people there because he does not play the crowd very well at the event except for the people right in front which isn't what matters so that part of his doing. Right and he has that stacked but I did become extremely obsessed with one thing about Trump His speech patterns I've really started to focus on this. Someone sent me a reasonably good deconstruction, it's a YouTube video which makes no sense playing because a lot of it is what's on the screen but when you listen to Trump he speaks in pretty much single and two syllable words all the time The three syllable words are

31:52 big ones like tremendous, the words he really wants to get out there. But sometimes if it's a four-syllable word he'll use a two syllable word if you can and the more I think about this... You and I both know have certainly been around or met incredibly wealthy successful people in business recollection they all do have some kind of very basic form of communication almost like farmers you know but like we you know I'm not explaining it very well no keep trying but even they don't use

32:38 Certainly if they're in a, you know, they have retail or restaurants or very successful things that deal with people not necessarily with banking and computers. They speak very very simply and that's part of the sales tactic which I think Trump does very well And uh...and i was even talking with Tina about it She said did you think he is doing that on purpose? No but I don't think so! This is exactly why he speaks this how we speaks and this has worked very well for him I have two examples, just to get this started and move away from the event. Let's just listen... This is a... I call it simple speak talking about being audited. I think this was from the debate which I didn't see but had an interesting experience we listened to it while we were in the car

33:25 It was kind of fun to listen and not actually see. That would be different. It was very different, there was at some well it the way it came across to me is whenever Rubio or Cruz was attacking Trump he just overrode it and was just talking so loud you really didn't hear the attack which was I don't know how that came across on television you wouldn't even really understand what he was talking about or what were what the attack was about just that there was all kinds of you know piling on had made it very inaudible So here he is with simple speak. But maybe this is, I think this is from the debate yesterday the last Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney called on you to release your back tax returns and said it and I'm quoting him now there's good reason to believe there was a bombshell in them. Romney said either you're not as wealthy as you say you are, said maybe you haven't paid the kind of taxes we would expect you to pay or you haven't been giving money to veterans or disabled people

34:21 any of those accusations that he has leveled true. Now listen to the single and double syllables and the lack of three syllables, I mean how he punches the important words? This is a very interesting speech pattern. First of all let me just explain...I was the first one to file a financial disclosure form almost 100 pages you don't learn anything about somebody's wealth with a tax return this was an interesting point You earn anything by anybody's wealth from a simple tax return which is true I think you can know what taxes someone paid, but you don't really know about wealth.

35:09 45-day extensions which I would have been entitled to. So as far as that's concerned, I filed it and that's where you find out what kind of a company You don't learn anything from the tax return And he goes back and keeps referring back He'll go back to something he said two seconds ago and repeat it then something that is relevant to him It's very intricate in its simplicity I think I will say this Mitt Romney looked like a fool when he delayed and delayed and delayed, and Harry Reid baited him so beautifully. And Mitt Romney didn't file his return until September 21st of 2012 about a month-and-a-half before the election." He clearly knew this was all coming. He was very prepared for this. Still very simple terms very simple explanations I think anyone can kind of get what he's saying without having to be dragged down into understand Federal Election Commission filings

36:02 than tax returns. And it cost him big league as far as my return I want to file it. Big League! Except for many years, I've been audited every year 12 years or something like that every year they audit me audit me audit me this is fantastic Audit Me Audit Me Audit Me you say something three times people remember nobody gets ordered I have friends that are very wealthy people they never get audited I get ordered every year I will absolutely give my return, but i'm being audited now for two or three years So I can't do it until the audit is finished obviously and I think people would understand that And end it with that. I think people would understand that clearly This is I just I think this isn't his natural state. I don't think he's doing nlp on purpose I don't think he's speech patterns. This is him and as a gift of gabba sales guy It's a gift. It is a gift. That's why you can go up

CHAPTER 08 / 44 Discussion

Ben Carson IRS Targeting Claims and Religious Bias

Ben Carson claimed he was targeted for an IRS audit immediately following his speech at the National Prayer Breakfast. Donald Trump echoed these sentiments, suggesting that his own audits might be motivated by a bias against strong Christians. The discussion explores the potential use of the IRS as a political tool against religious groups.

ben carson· irs· national prayer breakfast· religious freedom· donald trump

36:57 Fly there and do a two-hour speech or you know sometimes our not generally to but over an hour Much of it repetitious, but he'd do it to our speech no notes Just off the top of his head And they'll be different enough that you want to go listen to him and what was interesting in this particular piece Was the IRS? Now, he knows that eventually he's going to be asked to do this and he is being audited. And then he brought something up that Ben Carson then hooked into. We have a system of taxation in this country that is horribly wrong. You know I never had an audit

37:35 until I spoke at the national prayer breakfast. And then all of a sudden they came in, they said we just want to look at your real estate dealings and then they didn't find anything so they said let's look at the whole year and they didn't find anything so they said lets look at next year and the next year and they didnt find anything and they won't find anything because i'm a very honest person But the fact of the matter is, the IRS is not honest and we need to get rid religious groups who had nonprofits and they, you know... And this is pretty much proven although we lost all the emails and God knows what happened. It's a mess! The IRS was I think clearly being used

38:29 as a tool, right after the debate Trump sat down with one of those kind of before he goes into the spin room with the Cuomo kid from CNN and now Trump really spun it out beautifully. They came at you tonight about something that's in the news right now that really is at your control which is the tax returns Mitt Romney during the debate was bringing it up again You could show them in a second if you want to Why is Trump delaying? What do you say? Let me explain about Mitt guy who was a horrible candidate. He lost the race that should have been won and it should have been won easily, and I don't know what happened he like disappeared the last two months but when Mitt gave his tax returns just so you understand it was about six months from now in 2012 It was exactly September 21st And thats when he gave his tax return We're in a different world Listen to this stuff we're in a different world This guy is very good So you know Mitt is just trying to remain relevant

39:23 Nobody's talking to him much anymore. He got some publicity today, but the one problem I have is that I'm always audited by the IRS which i think is very unfair? I don't know maybe because of religion maybe because of something else maybe because I'm doing this although this is just recently Well, maybe because of the fact that I'm a strong Christian and I feel strongly about it. And maybe there's a bias. You think we need to get audited for being a strong Christian? Well you see what happened. You have many religious groups that are complaining about that they've been complaining about it for a long time So who is the ones who aren't audited? That seems like an easy answer for ya No, no I can't do that We have to put together in a very unified way

39:59 They all relate to each other. I don't know if you saw the picture where i have almost a thousand pages. The ones from previous relate to the ones later and it doesn't make sense. So he brings in the religious IRS? Yeah, I thought that was weak! It's a setup. It's what he does, but he was ready for this and I wouldn't put it past him that he called Mitt Romney and said hey they're gonna ask my tax returns why don't you ask now then i can do this whole IRS audit thing and delay it for awhile I don't think that happened, but I agree with you. I think it could happen something like that. Their businessmen at a high... That entire stratosphere of high-level business guys that are worth billions in many cases but at least 100 or 200 million they all hang out together

CHAPTER 09 / 44 Discussion

Media Libel Laws and Trump Campaign Rhetoric

Donald Trump's proposal to "open up" federal libel laws to make it easier to sue news organizations is critiqued. The current legal standards for libel and the difference between "slanted" reporting and actionable defamation are explained. Observations are also made regarding the fashion and behavior of television production crews at campaign events.

donald trump· libel laws· first amendment· mainstream media· journalism

40:53 I know it sounds like bullcrap, but they do. They do? Because they don't trust anybody else and so there's a... It's like a club! Yeah. Like a wealth club and they call each other, talk to each other more than you or me. Exactly. I apologize that was one clip I did record from his Arkansas speech Which I found to be entertaining because we have talked about this type of law in the past on the show. They never want to do anything good, i'm not just talking them, im talking about the other ones too The media...the most dishonest human beings on earth, im telling you

41:30 At this point I'm looking at the press guys and oh may, i point out there are some hot chicks walking around in press these days who are pre-production who are in production they're carrying you know sticks which is television jargon for tripod. They're carrying sticks and then stopwatches and then they're wearing... it was mind boggling..they're wearing high heels They're you know, they're this show business high heels. They'll work in their way They're working their way into the getting on camera and then they have to climb up onto The the riser and it's no graded steps and everything like women what are you doing that short skirts on with? It was just like wow Wow, wow, wow, whoa, whoa, yeah. All right here we go So when I look at the press that then they're like whatever there some of them laughing each other stuff

42:26 And we're gonna, by the way while I'm on that subject. I am going to do everything I can if I win. They write false stories they write nasty false stories and they know their faults. I've had some written more than I've ever seen before in the last period of a few months. They write false stories you can't really sue because the libel laws are essentially non existent within open up the libel laws true so when they ride falsely We can sue the media and we can get this story corrected and get damages Right? Believe me. It's so important and you know what it'll be amazing how honest they become right now They can say anything they want to say Someday in the not too distant future if I win, they're not gonna get away with this stuff that they get away with And I think we all feel don't we feel that way? Beautiful Don't we very dishonest people don't we all feel that way? I think we feel don't we all feel that way is playing on well We do the same thing on this show

43:25 We play on the kind of public acceptance of the media as being douchebags. Yeah, in general. And they are? And they are! I mean we've worked in it and you know a lot of these guys are douchebags How about the libel laws comment though what is what do you feel about that? That's bullshit. Libel laws have already got these guys on the run I mean They're already too liberalist In the olden days in the 20s and 30s You could really go after people It's not that way anymore It's just not...and then end up Guys who run the newspapers and media generally speaking Are kind of wimpy

44:01 the owners and they don't want, they won't let you know. They're very, oh, don't do that! Don't do this! I mean they're very afraid and so this is nonsense i don't know what would he...I think he's just playing ignorance, the ignorance card because that's not nuts. Yeah possible yeah they can report what they do as they go out and there's no libel involved in these stories. I watched it. Exciting no proof We, citing no proof. Citing no proof? We deconstruct these stories constantly and the amount of libel... And I was even wrong about deciding no proof when I said the guy was a liar for saying uh quoting him from his Twitter feed because i had seen one tweet and apparently it was another one that he did say those things so I apologize to that reporter if he ever cares but the uh If you analyze these pieces yes they chop them up

44:51 little bit and then but generally speaking they're pretty good the new TV news is not bad it gives you a picture it's slanted yeah slanted is not liable nope if a guy says ten things and you find one of them, and you think it's kind of abhorrent that he said this one thing. And you pound on the one thing ignoring the other nine now that's not liable. That's slanted! That's different Well, so Trump is just full of crap on this. Yeah full of crap I have the feeling just having been around a lot of Millennials here because it's its milf weekend here at the school. I'm sorry mothers weekend This wall-to-wall Mills man and I'm in a trailer

CHAPTER 10 / 44 Discussion

Bernie Sanders Outreach and Killer Mike Phone Banking

Rapper Killer Mike is featured in a clip manning phone banks for Bernie Sanders, pitching a $15 minimum wage and healthcare reform to voters. The discussion touches on the "Astroturf" campaigns used by the Hillary Clinton team to discredit Sanders' economic policies. The overlap between Sanders and Trump supporters among millennials is noted.

bernie sanders· killer mike· hillary clinton· minimum wage· millennials

45:36 Hey, hey want to see my trailer guy from this perspective and out there in the south that's high living High on the hog we say I am the hog because it's an airstream baby You know we were getting gas at where we were probably in Oklahoma and you know And I'm again pumping gas and Tina's in the car if this lady pulls up with the pump next to me and she says I look at her and i'm thinking someone maybe she recognized me or something. I love your trailer can't look inside The trailer tour, I like what do you say? Well yes no It's kind of locked up right come on be crazy with some people in my trailer that was odd People see oh it's that's cool. Can I look in it no no? strange Anyway, so I'm around a lot of them now Millennials

46:35 I have a feeling that a lot of them are looking at Trump. Bernie has now been slandered by the Hillary team, they've been sending out all these astro- I'd explain to some of these kids here what Astroturf is They say well you know look at this article it says you know Bernie's numbers don't add up so and we really need to vote for Hillary because Bernie's numbers don't add up and actually i got a cool clip here from Killer Mike can you name one song by killer mike? I've listened to Killer Mike, I admire him. I listened to his entire interview on the Tavis Smiley Show and really like the guy. And then the answer your question is no? No i can't either but there was a little piece and he was manning one of the phone banks for Bernie

47:22 And I'm pretty sure that this is how lots of these phone calls go, but this is Killer Mike himself manning the phone bank. Uh...I think you'll be able to understand what he's saying eventually get someone on the phone and he's pitching him on voting for Bernie Sanders instead of for Hillary. Hey! I've gotten a lot of call so let me tell ya, the phone banks are working. Let's call, call, call. My name is Michael Render. You'll just let her know Killer Mike called and I'd like you to consider voting for him, Ms. Edith. All right we got one strong for Bernie baby! Yes ma'am he is a Democrat and what I like about him over Hillary Clinton Ms. Edith is that he has economic policy that's beneficial for black boys and black men especially it will bring minimum wage up to $15 dollars for black women with working families so help to bring some of these boys home from jail

48:10 I'm not sure if you could hear that well enough, but he's his pitch is He's gonna raise the he's gonna raise the minimum wage to $15 and he's offering free school and health care That's yeah. That's Good pitch. He's offering free school and health care, do people know how government works? The president can't offer this! No he can't. So I think it actually hurts and now we have this movement that is telling the kids you know Bernie it's impossible you can't do any of this doesn't add up That's a meme It's a good one Oh yeah And a lot of these kids are now saying well but why don't just do Donald Trump then

49:09 Well, since the arguments for both candidates have even though they're at the other end of the political spectrum. The political spectrum is a circle and it wraps around and so as you go further out you start coming around on the other side. And those two are... A lot of people put them side by side there's a lot of similarities because they're both out there wrapping around the other side. Yeah! Oh yeah but I see- That's why Trump always accused being a Democrat And that actually I think helps him when people say that. I think so too, a lot of the slams so far have been...I think the last debate which i have some clips from but instead I took the presentation done by ABC and broke it up into three pieces because it was outstanding! Good good, I have a few clips myself which I pulled because... But before we do any of

CHAPTER 11 / 44 Discussion

Libertarian Debate Production Failure and Technical Issues

The Libertarian Party's online debate is ridiculed for its extremely poor production quality, featuring distorted audio and a single, static webcam shot from the back of the hall. The lack of professional lighting and camera work is described as "pathetic" and "sad," failing to provide any clear view of the candidates.

libertarian party· debate· streaming· webcam· second amendment

50:02 Since you were taught you were at an actual event witnessing it and you know how there would production was going in all the rest of Trump is doing I have to at least take a little side trip here and talk about the libertarian debate Yes, because I did not see. I didn't have cable. It was lucky enough people gave me sling boxes and stuff to watch I completely missed the libertarian debate it looked like they were streaming online only that I can tell shit There were 50 people on stage who look like There was a bunch of people on stage and let me describe it. First of all, here let me play the little sound clip. The sound was horrid and play the Libertarian Debate sound clip here as much you can take of it. This is what we were hearing. Hold on a second I don't see that. I see... Sound Clip?

50:48 It just says libertarian something. Oh, it says lobertarians okay got it. Oh lobertarians play the Lobertarians clip Wait this was the streaming audio? Yes! Ah jeez How long did that go on The whole thing You're kidding me Nah wait, this gets worse you think thats bad Can I play more of this You can play as much as you want. Play it! See if you can make anything out of it. Not a single word, that's horrible. So here now the camera was shooting I believe a wide-angle lens from probably the back of the hall

51:39 to the front one camera like a logitech webcam yes a lot of people describe it as such i nailed this there's a webcam Looking thing from the back of the room and you can see this you can see half the audience and the stage in the stage We're probably comprised about maybe 5% of the video feed And it was a cross-stage there were these figures behind podiums, and they were so over lit that all it appeared was like white Splotches who is doing the production who was doing the production of this thing nobody apparently? Who's somebody responsibility

52:18 Well, they had the one camera and it was there was never a shot of anybody. It was just this room shot That's all it was a vague John get your tube you can do that You can do that so that's hold on put yourself I'm gonna put the back right across the thing and then they were sounding like their time Nailed it. So you didn't know who anybody was and when they announced their name, what do you think mister? You couldn't hear the moderator's voice because... And this went on for like an hour or two, and so my daughter's over doing some work here. Are you making her clean the house again? I said hey you gotta see this! Her reaction was completely unexpected by me but when she gave the reaction i said oh that that's the real reaction...I should be thinking in these terms. I say look at this and she says what is it?

53:14 I said, this is the libertarian debate and she's watching it. And it was just this little screen with those people you can't see and there are no camera movies. She says, did you ever shoot anybody? I said, No! There was never a shot of anyone. And then she goes... Like it was sad?! That was like really saaad. Ohhhh!! She felt bad for them! She fell bad and when she gave that reaction I said oh my god that IS the reaction Of the millennials Yes, it's pathetic. Oh that so sad did you punish her on the spot? Boy my dad was like but it was that way and that's it I mean what can you do nothing oh How sad they got my first Sony on stage

54:02 Mr. Microphone? Excellent. Exactly! It was like they were using cheap mics, a webcam... Fabulous. Hello 1992 calling we want our M-Bone back. Do you have anything else from the Liberty? I guess you didn't have anything because you couldn't know what could I get You had a soundtrack there. That's the best I can do I Am I don't even know who the candidates are you they never had a camera on anybody it was from back in the room crazy Didn't see anybody's face well shame on every single one of those candidates because if you're involved in this that's what your team or you should Be looking at more. Oh, they don't care no all they did is fish and moan about the Second Amendment

CHAPTER 12 / 44 Discussion

John Kasich on Religious Liberty and Commerce

John Kasich expressed a moderate view on religious liberty during a GOP debate, arguing that businesses should serve all customers regardless of sexual orientation. He suggested that while religious institutions should be protected, commercial entities should focus on commerce and pray for those with whom they disagree rather than denying service.

john kasich· religious liberty· same-sex marriage· commerce· gop debate

54:52 From the from the GOP debate, I picked one clip from Kasich who said something... He's a very modern. He's a progressive Republican as this is my new term he's a progressive Republican It's not it's not a new term. It's not a new term? Well that term has been around Teddy Roosevelt. Ah well I liked what he said about the religion and gays, and not want to serve pizzas and cater the cupcakes. And I thought it's worth playing again because this is the first time i've heard someone in the Republican Party on a stage just say something like, oh that's logical and it fits and works for everybody. Back to religious liberty you've been a little bit less emphatic you said same-sex couple approaches a cupcake maker sell them a cupcake! Can we trust as much on religious liberty as the rest of these people? Well you know of course... Look I was involved with just being a pioneer in a new church

55:54 Religious institutions should be able to practice the religion that they believe in. No question and no doubt about it Now, in regard to same-sex marriage I don't favor it. I've always favored traditional marriage But look! The court has ruled and I've moved on And what I said you is that... Look Where does it end? If you're if you are in the business of selling things If you're not going to sell to somebody you don't agree with, today I'm not gonna sell it somebody who's gay and tomorrow maybe i won't sell this somebody who is divorced. I mean if your in the business of commerce conduct commerce that my view and if you don't agree with their lifestyle say a prayer for them when they leave and hope they change their behavior. I love that! That is the true answer

56:42 For people who are you know that then even for the crazy group who are always out there with signs and just you know Just to have signs, but yeah were those guys. Yeah, they're that Baptist Church is a baptist So if you are truly a believer Then what your mission is for people who you believe our sinners is to pray for them Make so much sense Thank you, John Kasich. Thank you. You don't boycott him. You don't yell at him I pray for you Adam yeah, I pray for you That's good. I like that finally a guy no that was a good answer To do John case and you got it like stick your both your lips out as far as you possibly can and then try to talk like the I think that

CHAPTER 13 / 44 Discussion

Marco Rubio Audience Plants and Professional Screamers

High-pitched screaming in the audience during Marco Rubio's debate performance is identified as a potential "shill" or plant. An anecdote about a 1968 Led Zeppelin concert illustrates how professional screamers have historically been used to manipulate audience energy. The strategic placement of supporters near microphones is discussed as a campaign tactic.

marco rubio· donald trump· led zeppelin· shills· audience manipulation

57:34 I think Donald Trump might be looking at him as a VP candidate. I do, I do! Kiss from across the room? I know it could be but okay so where were you before i rudely interrupt you with my libertarian... Well you had nothing left in liberty. I also had to run down we should maybe do the rundown of the debate since you can't believe me Can I just play my two clips from the debate Yeah, plan. Did I have one more? That was one my second one was listening in the automobile it was we our heads whipped around and looked at each other when we heard what I dubbed the Rubio screamer What the heck was this thing in the audience if he builds a wall that way he built Trump Towers He'll be using illegal immigrant labor to do it What is that

58:34 What is that? Wait for the second one. And the third time! What is that?! Who can even make that noise? That's someone who has a kid scream. Stacked! That's interesting, you have to assume that brings me back to my old Led Zeppelin story which I'm... Yes yes i love the led zep story yes where you had a shill but hold on now it seems to be... John John John John John John hold on one second You have to set it back for a second what year what year are we going to?

59:18 I'm not going to do the Led Zeppelin story. Why not? Or should i... you want me to do it? Yeah, hold on! We're going back to 19... To 1972. 1960... 1968. 1968 we were in 19... That's something like that. It was a long time ago. Led Zeppelin made their first appearance in the United States Yes Their first appearance?! Yes Dang nation cool! I went to the first appearance of a lot of these guys Dynamite That's the way it is back then. So I'm at the Led Zeppelin concert and there was a moment where they're singing one of those songs, they have a lot of pauses in their songs and they jump right into something. I forgot what song it was, I'd have to listen all those songs to figure it out but... Right? At some moment when they're just about to cut loose or just do-do-doo and they're just about to cut loose and somebody in the back

1:00:13 far left, I know you could tell where there was a small house it wasn't the Fillmore or anything. Sled out a blood-curdling scream And then the lead zeppelin cut right into whatever they were, that full volume with all these amps and boom-boom-boom. And it just seems at the time I kept them out of my brain so next day was during summer or something I was working at Kaiser Aluminum Can plant with a bunch other guys and we'd have lunch break in the lunch room and I talked to this guy he said oh yeah I just went to see him yesterday I saw maybe the week before And they came right to me and said, you know when they played this certain song? And then there's this pause. Somebody in the back screamed at the top of their lungs and he says to me yeah! And I said that was it. Suzie said that. Yeah, they did the same thing as my performance. And I said oh, it was a plant. It was part of the act

1:01:15 Man, just assume those brits those shitty Brits Come up with all these ideas. It's called a shill in the audience it's not really a new idea and we're back like having me it's like having the applauders you know yeah well this was And that only woman only did that during Rubio even Trump got some applause But there was no one screaming like not for not for Cruz now nothing It was very... No, she was planted probably by one of the mic-the rooms. And if you could put yourself near one of those mics if you know where they are You can have an impact. If you can scream at the top your lungs and that's what she was a professional screamer Excellent I have a couple clips that are not

CHAPTER 14 / 44 Discussion

Marco Rubio Comedic Shift and Makeup Allegations

Marco Rubio's aggressive and humorous shift in debate tactics is analyzed, with suggestions that he hired professional comedy writers. Donald Trump's retaliatory claims that Rubio applied makeup with a "trowel" backstage to hide sweat are reviewed. The media's reaction to this "new" Rubio is highlighted through ABC News coverage.

marco rubio· donald trump· chris christie· comedy writers· abc news

1:02:00 Do not revolve around the debate. So I think you should go into your uh, into your rundown All right Well let's listen to this is abc who we know are beside themselves? I think they're right now doing a fairly objective job Even though there's a couple non-secretaries in here that are kind of rich Yeah But they're doing a fairly objective job Of reporting on the campaigns because they've lost their man jeb bush yeah jim jibby done jib jibs done and so They handle it pretty well and they don't have... You know, I was watching the NBC report. I just thought...I'm sorry to interrupt but I saw something. Jeb suspended his campaign do you think that he still keeps the option open to come back? To come in at the convention. Yeah yeah i think there's a possibility I agree. Of course she does. I will compare this...I didn't but I don't have the clip of it but compared the Katie Turr

1:02:53 on NBC who has this feud with Trump. She was beside herself with broad smiles because she saw the debate and she saw that Trump got pounded by a two minute, it's like a tag team between Trump and Rubio. They're just piling on and she was just she couldn't with... She normally fairly serious looking but she couldn't get rid of this huge shit-eating grin. Big grin! So here is my play for you. Oops sorry sorry sorry Okay let's play this is ABC and I'm okay we've already gotten into it. It went on for five minutes so I cut it down to three clips.

1:03:34 Oops, sorry. mocking him for repeating simple talking points on health care. We should have gotten rid of the lines, we should have gotten rid of the lines around the states...we have to get rid of the lines around the state! But now he's repeating himself. No I'm not repeating myself no no no! I watched him repeat himself five times four weeks ago and i want to tell you it was a meltdown! Today Rubio sounded like an entirely new candidate

1:04:17 Ha. Alright, so Rubio and he's doing... in one of his presentations outside of the DeBase and they have some clips from it coming up I'm watching this too and the same way this guy did say what is going on with Rubio? He's standing there, he's throwing out one-liners Well we all know what happened You saw the video Of him popping a pill Yeah, no that's what happened obviously. I don't even know if it is popping a pill. Comedians... A lot of comedians will get this way but they have to have about five or six lines of coke Now the guy is from Florida so let's add two and two here He needs five lines of coke and some Adderall he's from Florida Well whatever.. And Adderall makes you sweat by the way So yeah he has gone from this kind of reticent guy who was being pushed around bullied

1:05:11 to this fantastic stand-up comic with timing. I mean, I was listening to his material and he says you know, you've been repeating yourself five times a week...a month ago He said well I heard you repeat yourself five times five seconds ago You know back and forth And all this material is on the money It was reading the lines though it was reading in the one liners if i saw that it was good I'm in agreement Well, he wasn't reading what he did when it went out and talked although. He did the same I heard this same bit that he does this bit About Trump in the dressing room and I'll jump had to come up with a comeback with a trowel Yeah With the trial thing here's the whole things it kind of laid out ABC did very really good job of pulling this out Launching Trump like attacks against Trump last night in the debate during one of the breaks two of the brakes He went backstage. It was having a meltdown

1:06:07 First he had this little makeup thing, applying like makeup around his mustache because he had one of those sweat mustaches. Then... then he asked for a full-length mirror I don't know why because the podium goes up to here but he wanted a full length mirror Maybe to make sure his pants weren't wet. I don't know! We asked Trump about that, he actually suggested that you were sweating backstage? That you seemed ragged? Well i'll tell you about backstage if you'd like...I walked back there and he's with a pile of makeup putting it on his face they said Marco easy with the makeup you don't need that much but no I heard he had some very nasty personal comments But I saw him backstage and he was putting it on with a trowel. Later, Trump performed an odd impression of that infamous moment when Rubio reached for his water bottle on national television. It's Rubio! Rubio clearly incurred the wrath of Trump. I love that bit that Trump did with the water. That was very funny but Rubio again when he is giving this little talk in front of his supporters and says

1:07:10 He maybe is looking to see if his pants were wet great line. There's written for him by the way Yeah, he has a found a comedy writers no doubt about it and then but his timing is natural He says it may be Spencer what I don't know and the way he does the slips into the I don't know It was just it was perfect. It was a perfect time gag It's very... That's a good analysis from a comedic standpoint. I agree, you're right! He was nailing his lines, his timing was good so he looks like a comic. He was doing comedic material that was absolutely sure it was written for him which is not an unusual thing. No, no it was fine. You can get writers, comic writers which are available especially in certain areas like San Francisco there's dozens of them and typically where-I've worked with them. I've worked with comedy writers

CHAPTER 15 / 44 Discussion

Economics of Comedy Writing and Joke Purchasing

A deep dive into the business of comedy writing reveals that jokes are often purchased for as little as $10 to $20 each. The process involves working with multiple writers to develop material and select punchlines that fit a performer's specific timing and style. Late-night hosts like Jimmy Fallon are cited as examples of this collaborative process.

comedy writing· phyllis diller· jimmy fallon· stand-up comedy· punchlines

1:08:00 for material, because I did a stand-up thing once for a presentation and I just have somebody write it for me. But the way you do it is you sit down or you get on the phone, sit down to pens and you work with usually about four or five guys if you want to develop say a half an hour of material. And these guys are unbelievable they just rattle. You'd say what do you wanna talk about? I wanna talk about ABC. Oh my ABC's like da-da-da! And they start throwing jokes out about ABC. Yeah, they're good. If anyone wants to do this you'll learn how you do it You buy the jokes on the fly as the guy's going and I like that one. I like that when you write down just kind of, you write the punchlines down it is going on and on and so what else? Anybody talking about cars? The last time i drove a car was blah blah blah yeah oh yep that way I can use that. I can use that no no nope nope nope I used that What does he...what does it..what do you think the typical cost if you pay per joke 10 bucks a joke That's it?!

1:09:00 Yeah, pretty much. The price is... I don't know that the price has ever gone up. Hot guys maybe gonna charge more. 10 bucks a joke? Yeah, it might go as high as 20 with a superstar but these guys are 10 bucks a joke. All they have is jokes! They have millions of them and dream them up on the fly. They make a couple hundred bucks in an hour... Now it's ten bucks a joke and when I was at Foothill College when I first knew about this-I went to Foothill College where I took broadcasting and some other important courses into my life then went back to Berkeley I was with one of the guys in the broadcasting course, we had all these guys who were like semi-pros already. And this guy explained it to me he used to write jokes for Phyllis Diller This kid in college and the price then was 10 bucks a joke! Wow

1:09:50 And I'm thinking, does the price of these jokes ever go up? Apparently not. But anyway so you sit down and you write the jokes down and buy maybe 50 10 bucks joke. You buy maybe 20 jokes but then you give them a check for couple hundred bucks. Then you go to the next guy and he'll give you different... His jokes will be little different because every joke writer has got kind of twisted way looking at same thing. So if you take three joke writers and then vary their material sometimes you'll A joke that supersedes a joke you already paid 10 bucks for, which is... You know, ah shit I lost 10 bucks on that deal. And it mixed the gags together and if you have any sort of timing where you can actually tell a joke or one-liner and these guys they tend to know you well enough after they write for you for awhile they know that you can't deliver certain jokes There's a lot of jokes. I'm not a professional comic so i cant deliver a lot of material If this were a clip you'd get Clip Of The Day

1:10:47 Good. No one knows that I never heard of this is the price Oh, yeah This is fantastic Of course do we know about writers and joke rise but didn't know if there's just a pool of guys and I'll take that one Here's ten bucks. That's Man, so and you get it takes you a few years You work with the guy for about an hour and a half And you buy a bunch of jokes? And then you work with the next guy and then the next guy if you depends on how many guys you want to work With I mean this is the way it works in there in the room. It's up to you They don't pay ten bucks they pay a lot of money to the guys that are writers for like Jimmy Fallon They got like 10 guys in the room. They're all throwing jokes out Fallon is doing the exact same thing he's not buying but he's taking picking this one. I'll take everyone just

1:11:24 And they can write, and he's like they know his style so they can write to his style which makes a big difference because writing in general is just one-liners. Anyone could do one-liners. Well thinking logically if someone was listening to this podcast and they laugh that's a $10 laugh! Yeah it's 10 bucks yeah yeah Just saying well that means they should donate. Yes! This is my podcast. Ten bucks for every laugh To be funny wait wait until we get to the donation segment because this thing works Ding all right go let's go on in the final clip and now that we know that Rubio at least from my perspective is buying material and Delivering it well delivering on the goods. Yes number three school

CHAPTER 16 / 44 Discussion

GOP Debate Clashes and Ben Carson's Request

Ted Cruz and Donald Trump clashed over Trump's past involvement with "Celebrity Apprentice" and the firing of Dennis Rodman. Marco Rubio labeled Trump a "con artist," while Ben Carson humorously requested that someone attack him so he could get speaking time. Analysts question if these attacks came too late to stop Trump's momentum before Super Tuesday.

ted cruz· donald trump· marco rubio· ben carson· dennis rodman

1:12:15 Yeah, number three. I've hired, by the way, tens of thousands of people over my job. You've hired nobody. You had nothing but problems with your credit cards etc. Look Ted Cruz chimed in too When i was leading the fight against the Gang of Eight amnesty bill Where was Donald? He was firing Dennis Rodman on Celebrity Apprentice. Prompting Dennis Rodman to tweet, yes Ted Cruz Donald Trump did fire me on celebrity apprentice he's about to fire your blank too! Cruz got under Trump skin. Donald relax. I'm relaxed. You're the basket case

1:13:09 Don't get nervous. My name is- I promise you, Donald, there's nothing about you that makes anyone nervous. But tonight it's clear the race is now a battle between Donald Trump and newly aggressive Marco Rubio It's time to pull his mask off so that people can see what we are dealing with here Hey, I hear that lady in the crowd again. It sounded like that screamer way in the background. It probably was it was just Mike. So people can see what we are dealing with here! What we're dealing with here my friends is a con artist The whiplash today John Carl with us live tonight from Texas and John you heard where we sit at the top here A lot of people asking tonight Where were these attacks months ago? Is the 11th hour right before Super Tuesday too late

1:14:00 That's one of the biggest questions of this entire campaign for months and months Marco Rubio didn't lay a glove on Donald Trump while he built up a titanium strong core of support with Super Tuesday four days away David it may just be too late. All right, John Carl in Fort Worth Texas tonight John Thanks Now the thing that did leave out which you almost hear at the beginning of it is The doctor Ben Carson saying You just hear it. He said, my name is Ben Carson can someone attack me please? Yeah I heard that was funny. That's pretty funny. I have a suggestion because you've got the three pieces of ABC why don't we take a little break and then we'll come back and do a few more things because were...I want to keep the show moving on time kind of thing

CHAPTER 17 / 44 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits and Donor Recognition

The show recognizes high-tier donors including Executive Producer Greg Davis and Associate Executive Producers James C. Reeves, Mark Pledger, and Sir Jojo. Personal notes from donors regarding career changes, birthdays, and "human resources" (new babies) are read. The segment includes the traditional "knighting" and "karma" rituals for the contributors.

greg davis· james c reeves· mark pledger· jojo· donations

1:14:45 And with that I want to thank you very much for your courage and passion, love and light. And say in the morning to you John C! What is this? He stands for comedy for $10! Dvorak! And uh...I wanna thank or just say in the morning to you what am I supposed to be doing? Uh..in the mo- Is it in the morning? Yeah feats in the air In the morning? Mmhmm Say in the morning to boot boots on the ground boots on the no I say okay. I want to say in the morning to you Adam Curry also In the morning and boots on the ground feet in the air subs of water all the dames and knights out there is that much? That's what you're supposed to say, and I'll say one of the chat room No agenda stream calm sib subs in the water yes And in the morning to bohemian groove The artist who supplied us with the artwork for episode 8 0 2 It was a nice piece What was it again? I don't know

1:15:34 Well, the title was Warehouse of Souls and the artwork I'm looking at... Oh it was yes. It was the Obama-Putin handshake. With Putin looking at his right hand because it was a callback to that. Reference, yes! What Boy Scouts do. That was a good one we always thought. Yeah, I liked it because it was so obscure We appreciate the art and also the Adelo insult to injury Obama's flipping him off do with the other hand there you go Nope, no agenda our generator calm is where you can submit the art where anyone can go and look at art These are open source pieces You can use them for fun stuff to promote the show John use them in the newsletter And some of it. You can just look through it and just laugh your ass off someone's just funny

1:16:24 Yeah, funny some is very rude So road all right you have some people to thank for that today's show say 803 mm-hmm We have one executive producer and three associate executive producers starting with Greg Davis. He's right there in Austin, Texas You must know him Have I met Greg? 333 33 I donated today 333 33 after hearing your high-pitched bell and droning voice asking me to donate the no agenda don't hate to know agenda don't In my haze overwhelmed by your powerful messaging I failed to leave a note with my donation Please help me by offering karma for the launch of my book rethink sales management and My sales key would be using the bell and my sales consulting service inspired by no agenda thinking And found at challenge assumptions calm tell my friends in yours sir gene. Thanks for helping her lovely lovely, of course

1:17:22 You've got karma. Oh wow! Whoa, those two hurt my ears going together So I got a another book from hollowbooks.com Yeah, yeah sir Jimmy what did you get? What'd he send you? Sir Jimmy... What'd he send ya? It's uh- you know I don't have it here but its just a classic kind of a book you want for a hollowbook its an unab- y'know its like books no one would ever pull off the shelf One of those Right Some dog Yeah like pfff I dont wanna read that Yeah, so if you're going down a bookshelf and it's got the dust cover on it. You'd see this book and you say... This book doesn't interest me! And you just keep going down. Which unfortunately I'm still gonna send him a box of the Dvorak on OS2 book

1:18:10 I have around some you have a hard cover of that. No, there's not hearties This is soft coverage gonna deal with this is the one it has little the little gold emblem embossed that says instant bestseller No, that's the Dvorak telecommunications. Okay? All right It's a bestseller. What does that even mean? I don't know, it was your book! That's what they put on there. Nice fabric. I just put my picture on the cover and you're like, yeah, I don't want my picture on the cover. No, is this going to sell more books? I do not think so. These guys are bad business. James C Reeves is doing good business. He also in Texas Spring, Texas 23333. He sent a note

1:18:49 I've been listening since episode 520, but this is my first donation besides one my wife made in my name as a birthday present. No Agenda is a top-notch product and truly the best podcast in the universe. My life has changed a lot since I first started listening and No Agenda had provided great company along the way. I'm happily self employed as a private math and SAT ACT prep tutor. I am completely independent and make more than I did as an engineer which is telling something. My daily interactions with high school and college students allow me to see first-hand the ongoing effects of slave training! I will share more in a future note, thank you for your courage. Love & Light JC PS Our second Human Resources due in late April can I get a healthy baby Karma? Of course! Baby Karma! You've got karma

1:19:40 You know a little baby crying we can make that one of our normal things that we can okay. I don't know Yeah, yeah, I think it'd be cool really mark how cool will it be John? It'll be very cool when you see how about this one Mark pledger or plaguer? No, I don't like her. Yeah, no. I don't think we have a baby. That's scream oh That's a good one. You mean which one the the calm down scream though the big one to whopper and Yeah, this one the will help screen. Yeah Like that you've got karma all right That is our new baby new human resource baby karma from now on perfect mark 225 96 and Beaver Creek Ohio dear John and Adam the dreck of studying for several exams over the past couple of weeks has had Me forgetting things I missed a show 800 celebration. I almost forgot that my own birthday was today knows

1:20:39 I asked myself, self what is the best way to forget my own birthday? Or so i'm sorry to celebrate my own birthday and to gain redemption for not having donated in the past few months. By donating my birthdate, which is 22596 and presenting myself my first associate executive producership at That's How. May I get a Fletcher fat bitch? A whoopie get out of my vag, a de-douching and some academic karma Thank you B-P-I-T-U for keeping me informed and sane in college We can do it! Fat Bitch!

1:21:15 Get out of my vagina! You've been de-douche'd. You've got karma That's how we roll And finally sir Jojo in Wooddale, Illinois 200 bucks he says he cut the late note I had to send a second note on because his first Yeah no... And he says good luck and that's all he says they give it you give him some karma for coming in Of course, I also want to know hold on last year in a second You've got karma. It seems the whole thing was sketchy so I sent out a second text note. Yeah, you know just send out text notes yeah Not sure. Oh, I'll have a report shortly I didn't do enough work on the first screw up to okay You have anything to say but now that's all we got anyway for show 803 it's kind of drifting Drifting downward as usual There's nothing to celebrate

CHAPTER 18 / 44 Discussion

No Agenda Meetups and California State Railroad Museum

New rules for promoting listener meetups are established, requiring a minimum of ten confirmed attendees before an event is mentioned on air. Plans are discussed for a future meetup at the California State Railroad Museum in Sacramento, involving a group trip on the California Zephyr train.

meetup.com· san francisco· sacramento· california state railroad museum· california zephyr

1:22:28 Do have two meetups to mention and I'm I gotta start a rule now The so there's a meetup site. It's meetup comm slash no agenda Yeah, it's terrible it may be terrible But it does seem to work so I mean other com slash know agenda but what people are doing is you know they're registering and And you know and the saying okay? I'm organizing a meet up There's one meet-up then you know this whole list oh You have to promote this promote that now about you I'll promote Noah Jenna our comm slash meetup Otherwise, we'll just be getting these requests for meetups and a lot of them won't happen. We have to set some ground rules for that don't you think? Yes obviously I would suggest that once you get 10 people that say they're going to go the meet up we can mention it on the show

1:23:18 But I looked at that list and it's just like two, one. And it's a huge list of all this and there is a meetup every place in the country. Right so you know I can keep saying please promote the meet up in San Francisco! Well no... Somebody said that to me too where is it? What's the deal? Well I don't know. So what is their... You're not promoting this meet-up. I said what meet-up?! I don't know where it is. I don't know what your talking about Important is to promote meetup.com slash no agenda when we get closer to dates, but I'm happy of course you know if you've got 10 people then I'm happy to promote that so now have March 6 Atlanta Meet up March 19th

1:23:57 North Carolina meetup, but really just go to meet up dot-com slash no agenda and self organize Then and take pictures and promote and let me know what's going on. Take pictures of otherwise It just gets kind of tedious you know it's like yeah, you'll meet a meeting now I still am gonna do the train museum meetup And I've decided now that it's going to, the way to do it is we all take the Zephyr. We won't take the Coastals or any of these other trains. Take this effort which I believe stops in Sacramento And so it stops along the way here. I don't know if it stops in Berkeley, but I think it stops at Emeryville and go there and get on the Zephyr and off you go to Sacramento on the Zephyr and then get off and how many people would go? I think 10-20 people. Should I...I want to do that we had no donations at The Meetup that were associate or exec level. We'll of course be discussing that later on but I did receive two bottles of alcohol that I wanted to discuss

CHAPTER 19 / 44 Discussion

NSA Veteran Wine and Charlie Rose Pronunciation

A bottle of Kultura wine from the Meek Family Estate in Yakima Valley was gifted by a retired NSA agent who is a long-time listener. The discussion of "terroir" leads to a clip of Charlie Rose struggling to pronounce the word "terror" while interviewing former NSA director Michael Hayden about his new book.

nsa· yakima valley· kultura wine· charlie rose· michael hayden

1:24:59 Okay, and coincidentally or not one was actually three things. I want to discuss one was from the Subs under the water dude named Ben and one was from the subs on the water dude named Jim So what ben gave me is a bottle of? Kultura are you familiar with this from the night the milk the Meek family estate vineyard Yakima Valley the Yakima yakima yeah Kairos, k-a-i-r-o-s. Apparently this is... A-I-R-O-S But it's Kultura wine, c-u-l-t-u-ra, Kultura wine. Apparently this is really good. C-U-L-T-U-R-A. C-U-L-T-U-R-A what sounds familiar? Apparently its like a hundred bucks a bottle

1:25:53 Well, there's lots of hundred buck a bottle wines but the story behind it is the guy used to be an NSA agent was listening to us from like episode two or three and He retired and he started vineyard. So it's it's kind of from him as well Well that should be cheap for us you get discount we got it for free We liked that the NSA what kind of wine was it was a cabernet I'm looking at the bottle right here Well, that's interesting. Let's see wine this elegant can only be achieved by hand crafting the entire process from vine to barrel to bottle small batch our wines reflect the best of Yakima Valley terror terroir Yeah, terror where world-class growing conditions and our selective approach contribute to the uniqueness of the wines we craft But it doesn't say what it is. It's just a ball of vague wine its red

1:26:49 Does it say red? Well, I can see the bottle. It doesn't have a name does it have a name? Kultura is the name of the wine. The Kultura is the label here and on the front of label 2012 Kyros Kairos Meek Family Estate Vineyard Yakima Valley but doesn't say anything. So Kyros is probably their branded name out there of the blend yeah yeah but there's no mention what the blend consists of? No sir ah fascinating Now, it's funny about that just as an aside since we've got I have this clip. I have no real reason to play it but since you're I love this Terroir which is very difficult the pronounce e r oi are terroir Yeah It means the earth yeah But it's a French term for specific isn't really mean something to the French

1:27:41 It means that this plot has characteristics in and of itself with or without the vines. When vines are planted there, they take on these characteristics and in the bottle of wine you will have this to the point where some people can identify a wine blindly like say oh that's Chateau such-and-such because it always tastes like... Because you could taste the qualities of the earth or the grape? The definition is vague, but that's what you said is part of it. The difficulty, now you'd think that would be difficult to pronounce for Americans but words like terror. Terror. You know like the terrorism and terror and terror and terror? You think he can be able to pronounce that let's listen to Charlie Rose on The Morning Show trying to pronounce this word. He actually has real promising potentials. Yeah! The next president will inherit the challenge of protecting Americans from terror by safeguarding privacy. Terror!

1:28:43 This is good. She writes that tension is on display in the FBI standoff with Apple over the San Bernardino's terrorist Powerful intelligence insider his weighing-in retired general major Michael Hayden says Apple is right in principle But the government has a point Hayden created and oversaw controversial programs designed to keep Americans safe He was director of the National Security Agency and director of the CIA. He is now telling his side of the story in a new book it is called Playing to The Edge American Intelligence In The Age Of Terror. Good morning, so let's look at the FBI story make sure we understand exactly what you think

CHAPTER 20 / 44 Discussion

Veteran-Owned Bourbon and Millennial Marketing Stories

The hosts sample Lead Slinger's Bourbon, a veteran-owned whiskey brand supporting the Second Amendment. This prompts a discussion on millennial marketing trends, where products like chocolate or seasoning must have an elaborate "backstory" or social cause to be successful. A custom tote bag from Mindy's Fabrications is also showcased.

lead slinger's bourbon· second amendment· millennials· marketing· cavender's seasoning

1:29:24 Like tell me about this sexuality. It's in your DNA Wow it's a hard word The guy is working himself to death yeah, he looks like crap He's on the morning show and he's doing all this other stuff. He does three or four five things now Yeah, he's making more money than he's ever made obviously but he's gonna die in the saddle We'll come back to Charlie I just want to finish these two two more bits here from the meetup then from Submariner, or a gym. I got a bottle of Lead Slinger's Bourbon Whiskey. This has a nice story. Veteran owned! Bloodslinger's Whiskey was founded in 2013 by seven combat veterans. When USAF, TACPS, U.S. Army Rangers Green Berets and paratroopers combined their love for America and fine whiskey, Bloodslingers' Whisky was born! Tired of people afraid to support the Second Amendment? The LSW team was focused on bringing a quality bourbon whiskey to freedom-loving likeminded individuals. Stay frosty...and Freedom On!!!

1:30:28 Let me test that's got to be the worst stuff ever it is diamond. Let me test it right now on It's very smooth this actually very nice John really, it's actually good Yeah, I see all those gimmicks and stuff especially these bullcrap stories. It is good Oh, he's a very suspicious eye so we had a dinner the other night and Jesse JC's wife Who now works as a chocolate maker in a chocolate company somewhere in the city. A famous one too, they have... I'm glad that college degree is paying off! Oh yeah So she's at this chocolate place making chocolate and uh Like Lucio Ball Well she actually makes it They actually make it from the raw material This is talking about the front end of the chocolate making where you actually make chocolate from chocolate beans

1:31:18 And so she brings a bar every time we have dinner with different types and she brings this one in. She gives us this cock-and-bull story about it was from an area where they have these endangered thrushes, just long, long story. I happen to know that the millennials For some reason they have been sold a bill of goods or somebody sold the bill of goods, or they actually do respond to this. They will not buy a product unless there's a story associated with it." This is discussed in Ad Age and advertising... Oh sure! Whole Foods is filled with products like this when my grandmother died that's where we get the small batch We found her recipe for lemonade. This is tasty stuff John, this is tasty Well don't- hey hey

1:32:08 Just don't drink any more of it, please. We know you. Alright can I finish? Have Tina drink it, she'll be funny She's not a whiskey girl, she doesn't like whisky that much Oh so she might be a scotch girl No All women like some sort of hard liquor Oh vodka! Shes' a vodka girl Oh, vodka. Oh yeah she's vodka man oh yeah well then tell her you gotta get okay well I got some tips for anyway Then i received Anyway let me finish so she's going on with this story about the chocolate made for this and then money goes there and it's a big just one of these stories that every product has to have this stupid story mm-hmm And JC by the way straightened me out when I went after on this I said This is bullcrap! There's no proof that this story is true! Excuse me at the dinner table

1:32:58 And she's all offended the divorce hold us your reality show man because it's like wow and JC said no, no this way you do he says that doesn't work He says you're not gonna get anywhere at the Millennials just condemning them for these stories. No, he says you just say He says and he's good at this stuff. It's keep it simple and just go so what's that got to do with the chocolate? And that's all you do. Did he say that to his wife? No, he said that to me did to say to her I was going to say because then they know he won't say anything to it just knock him silly and So what's it got to do with the chocolate and that's kind of changed the whole tenor I also received a sampler and then both you and I are to receive a huge bottle of Cavendish all-purpose Greek seasoning

1:33:51 which apparently is a big deal this stuff. A tantalizing taste treat. We used to use Cavendish in the Dvorak houses until we owned the spice shop and then we started getting Greek seasoning from Mountain High or one of these spice blenders in Colorado, which was about a tenth the price and just is pretty much the same product. But yeah, Cavendish is outrageous you can use it on everything. Cavenders seasoning as distinctive in the foods today as it was when... As today? As those prepared for the feast of the ancient Greeks. It's history in a can! Nice. Oh bullcrap

1:34:32 And one of our producers, his partner she... it's called Mindy's Fabrications. F-A-B-R-I hyphen K-A-T-I-O-N-S Then she makes fabric stuff out of fabric and she made for Tina a beautiful tote bag! Very nice! And I brought it home to Tina was like That's beautiful! I'm gonna use that. Very nice, it doesn't have a website but i think facebook page Mindy's Fabrications and we'll thank the producers who donated and they have a couple notes so do that during our full-on segment

CHAPTER 21 / 44 Discussion

Lands' End Gloria Steinem Controversy

Clothing retailer Lands' End faced a backlash and "Facebook flooding" after featuring an interview with feminist icon Gloria Steinem in its catalog. Critics targeted Steinem's pro-choice stance, leading the company to issue an apology. The event is analyzed as a potential publicity stunt or a "hit job" covered primarily by ABC News.

lands' end· gloria steinem· pro-choice· hillary clinton· abc news

1:35:09 I think that's it except for we need everyone to remember that We do have a show coming up on Thursday, and we need all the help. We can get obviously so please remember us at Dvorak org slash And if you're doing a meetup or if you're anywhere near other possible people propagate the formula formula is this we go out? We hit people in them out So on our drive-up Tina's reading me stuff, you know. She's on the iPad and we're chatting about it. She says, oh did you read this thing about Land's End? And...

1:35:56 Gloria Steinem. I said, no no tell me about it so she's reading this story and the story I'm paraphrasing goes kind of as follows Bland's End was a very famous clothing catalog clothing company in the United States that we've been around for 100 years and for long time they had their latest catalog the print catalog then i presume online they had an interview with Gloria Steinem Gloria Steinem, you know she's a feminist but recently of course she was called out because she was a surrogate promoting Hillary. But she said something like ah you want to be where the boys are over at Bernie and she had to apologize for that but when I heard this story I'm like tell me a little bit more about it and what the story goes is that

1:36:44 Their Facebook page was flooded with people very angry about this interview with Gloria Steinem because she's pro-choice and supposedly all of the Land's End customers were flooding the Facebook page because they hate Gloria Steinem and they don't like abortion. Very bad form to do what they did. But first I'll say this is a hit job, but I believe the Facebook flooding with Facebook A hit job and then it came back The only network that paid any attention to this was ABC does ABC like Hillary No, ABC was the Jeb Bush supporter. Exactly! So no one does the story except ABC. This morning popular outer-wearing clothing company lands end at its wits' end The retailer known for glossy catalogs like this one apologizing for what's inside the new spring issue

1:37:38 An interview with feminist, journalist and political activist Gloria Steinem after customers flooded Facebook with outrage over Steinem's pro-abortion rights stand. As we analyze it, it may have been a good publicity stunt for Land's End. Most people did not... Always! Always good for that always always Nobody remembers them I know you have a couple clips that will tie into some of this other stuff So let me just get something that was-I only saw this morning so I think it just came out Finally we have a soundbite Of the former president of Mexico Vincente Fox

CHAPTER 22 / 44 Discussion

Vicente Fox and Donald Trump Border Wall Dispute

Former Mexican President Vicente Fox made headlines for his profane refusal to pay for Donald Trump's proposed border wall during an interview with Univision's Jorge Ramos. Trump responded by demanding an apology, while Fox maintained that Mexico would not fund the construction.

vicente fox· donald trump· mexico· border wall· univision

1:38:24 And this who was he I think it was talking. I have one too is which ones lie? I have pooper, but you're a pooper I have pooper and this this just was released this morning This is Pooper talking about the guy from Univision no This is Pooper talking to the former president of Mexico okay I got the guy from univision talking him so play Pooper Okay So Anderson Pooper for those who haven't followed it the former president of Mexico bond Thursday said Donald Trump fuck him in his wall, which of course is fantastic the minute you get for trump The minute you get a before my world leader talking about you and you're not even really a leader or anything Just the guy running but I think that was a nice gift but Fox took it a lot further in this pooper interview president fox donald trump Is essentially doubling down saying that he'd make me hold on a second stop to exit It probably be better to play them an order then okay?

1:39:19 So let's play my clip. This is the original clip, this is the one with the Univision guy that troublemaker that showed up but keeps showing up at Trump events and got kicked out once so he has a grudge against Trump. And I think we should point out the owner of Univision has donated over $10 million to Hillary's campaign it is kind of odd you have the owner of media You know, how can you be objective if you do that? Well since we yeah well this is there's another clip I have here which indicates it's actually worse than that. Okay Flynn is doing a pretty good job of this kind of sly tricky stuff not dirty tricks just tricks but this is the guy uh this is the character Jorge whatever his name is. Vincente! No the interviewer oh oh Bo yeah Jorge from Univision yes sorry

1:40:10 And so, he comes and he—and here's the clip that started it all. Fox spoke out in an interview with Univision and Fusion host Jorge Ramos about Trump's repeated calls to build a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border which Trump says he would make Mexico pay for. I declare, uh, I'm not going to pay for that f***ing wall! He should pay for it. He's got the money. Are you afraid that he is going to be the next president of United States? What would that mean for Mexico? No, not at all. Democracy cannot take us to crazy people who don't know what is going on in the world today.

1:40:50 Two things, is that Vicente gets as crazy as they come. So I don't know what he's talking about but the main thing was...that got to me was him saying no i am not going to pay for that wall as if he's running the country! I know yeah well it gets... He's a reason out this whole Mexico so corrupt and you probably still is connected enough just be able to say that Well you will love this interview with Pooper because he takes it to an extreme on all all ends of the spectrum. President Fox, Donald Trump is essentially doubling down saying that he'd make Mexico pay for the wall and it's now going to be higher regardless what you or any current or former president of Mexico says What's your response?

CHAPTER 23 / 44 Discussion

Vicente Fox Hitler Comparison and Joe Biden Gaffe

In a follow-up interview with Anderson Cooper, Vicente Fox compared Donald Trump's rhetoric to that of Adolf Hitler. Fox also struggled with the pronunciation of Vice President Joe Biden's name, referring to him as "Joe Beedon." The segment critiques the media's eagerness to amplify the Hitler comparison.

vicente fox· adolf hitler· joe biden· anderson cooper· cnn

1:41:30 Interesting about this clip, the telephone has this bloop that hits every 5 or 10 seconds. That's from telephone exchanges from 1935! What is bloop when you're calling long distance to Mexico? Yeah, I think they're using a telephone exchange from 1935. Yes that's it! Or any current or former president of Mexico says what your response? Well, my response is that he's mistaken. He's taking the wrong route but there are more Mexicans coming back than Mexicans going into United States and it's- How does he know? Is this true? There are more leaving America than going in? There's a lot of numbers that indicate this. Okay we have a negative immigration deficit, cool. Because Mexican economy has been improving and because they see the opportunities here now

1:42:30 When he claims that the Mexican government is behind the flow of undocumented workers coming into this country, he hasn't provided any evidence of that. But he says he believes that and that smart people know that? That is an absolute lie. He doesn't have any proof on that I was the president of Mexico, and we have always been working hard doing our very best to build up opportunities for people We need them here! We don't need them in United States Last night as you know Donald Trump again called for you to apologize for using the F word saying you should be ashamed

1:43:14 Any chance you've decided to accept that request? I will plead to him no apologies. I demand as Joe Biden, Vice President of the United States... Now hold on a second! If you've been- Joe Biden has been around for decades and Vincente Fox doesn't know how to pronounce his name? He says Joe Beedon? Is he reading a script?! I don't think so. He can't say United States either, he says uniteded states But that's okay but he can say Biden Aye aye aye aye! I am Joe Biden come on! Any chance... Good job Bob! I found it odd let me put it that way, odd Apologize for using the F word saying you should be ashamed any chance you've decided to accept uh except that request?

1:44:09 I will beat to him. No apologies, I demand as Joe Biden Vice President of the United States came to Mexico and said it's a shame that we have guys like him speaking the language that he speaks. He has offended Mexico, Mexicans He has offended the Pope, he has offended the Chinese. He has offended everybody. He says he's going to bring back America to what it was? That's crazy! Never before America or United States was so big, so strong, so powerful, so successful as it is today.

1:44:58 of conflict, war and everything. Wait a minute so he says America is doing great but Trump wants to take the country back to the time of conflict and war? Are we not in conflict and war as we speak? And here it comes! Conflict, war...and everything. I mean he remembers me of Hitler. That's the way he started speaking You're really saying he reminds you of Adolf Hitler? I'll tell ya that He reminds me of Hitler because we used to have to see this huge talking that Hitler had at the beginning It's gonna use the executive power

1:45:41 I guess a little unintelligible there, but... So he's pulling the Hitler meme. Pooper was having a wonderful time with this! Of course he loves it! Really? Did you say Hitler? Adolf Hitler. Could you say that again?! Can you say Hitler again? I don't think we got the soundbite Do you mind just saying it one more time? You mean Adolf Hitler? He reminds of you of Adolph Hitler? Adolph Hitler? You mean Adolf- which uh instead of like Peter Hitler? Joe Hitler You mean you don't mean Joe Hitler do you surely you mean Adolf like the horrible guy right? It's not Joe. No, it's a lot of Hitler Now on this tip This is not been publicized but these CSU California State University

CHAPTER 24 / 44 Discussion

Fresno State Student Paper Hitler Imagery

The Fresno State student newspaper, The Collegian, published a front page comparing Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler and his supporters to Nazis. The editorial warned of "lynchings" and the rise of a "Fourth Reich." Simultaneously, the media is criticized for using "guilt by association" regarding David Duke's endorsement of Trump.

fresno state· the collegian· donald trump· adolf hitler· david duke

1:46:31 published in their... Which one? There is no California State University. Okay, hold on. Fresno! Okay You have to do a search for this just to see it. They published their, the Collegian which is a student newspaper... This is two weeks ago. Oh yeah I've seen this! But its really being kept very quiet and Trump... I didn't think so. It was over a week ago when they ran that. I hadn't seen it yet. And he had a blip but I remember seeing it. Did you read it? No. A few quotes from the editor, so the front page of this newspaper says see Kyle and there's a picture of Trump and then the subtext that living Nazi Germany in Trump's America yeah and here it is Don here it is Donald Trump is going to get us all killed Trump's America is the fourth Reich

1:47:30 The hardcore racist and fascist people supporting Trump don't want to kick out Muslims and undocumented Mexicans, they want to murder them. These people that normally keep their backward racism under the rock in which they live are voted to be openly racist Trump gladly brings the racism and xenophobia out of people as any good fascist would. If we let them elect Trump, there will be lynchings! Trump represents the rise of a new Hitler and is capable of the same atrocities It's like were in 1930s on a runaway train barreling toward World War 3 So get off your lazy asses and do something about it you hipsters And then in editorial there also Photoshopped... He said that? Yes

1:48:12 It said get off your lazy asses hipsters. Yeah, this article ends here Get off your lazy asses and do something about it you hipsters The end then have another picture of Trump photoshopped in the White House lawn doing a Nazi salute like Hitler His papers yeah great well I thought there's just the same thing at the same level of discourse on democracy now Let me ask you let me just talk about this for one second Hitlers rise Was that not facilitated by the type of parliamentary system Germany was using at the time? Is it that simple to think that, let's say Donald Trump is this new Hitler and when I don't mean Joe Hitler. Adolf Hitler. The...I don't believe our Republican, our Republic system really allows for him to become that

1:49:08 No, this is true. The way the Reichstag worked and it's a very different system so it's kind of specious. They had a chancellor they have all these other kinds of things they still do they still have a chancellor It's a very specious argument That's just kids but it does it reminds me again here play this obscure piece of information I just wonder whenever Hitler comes up that the answer is ah kids Kids Don't you—you love him, and you can't kill him or whatever the thing goes. Play this David Duke—play the David Duke clip. This is another one. Meanwhile, white nationalist and former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard David Duke is using his radio program to urge listeners to support Donald Trump saying Wednesday, quote, "'Voting against Donald Trump at this point is really treason to your heritage,' end quote."

1:49:58 David Duke went on to encourage listeners to go to Trump's headquarters, to volunteer saying quote, Go in there. You're going to meet people who are going to have the same kind of mindset that you have, Duke said. David Duke, of course also lives here He lives in Austin? I'm not an Austin A Fayetteville? No, doesn't he live outside Fayetteville? I don't know where he lives. I thought he lived in Louisiana Yeah, maybe wrong Yeah, so they brought that up. Well, Trump... Oh my! So David Duke I mean this is like this is a guilt by association They love doing this stuff on democracy now. That's do it. I mean they hate it. They're all stereotypes are bad They have all these liberal concepts and then at the same time they do they pull of the stuff out Constantly as if nobody's noticing And you probably saw the video of Trump staring down the guy in the KKK shirt

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Trump Response to KKK and David Duke Endorsement

Donald Trump faced questioning regarding an endorsement from former KKK leader David Duke. Trump claimed he knew nothing about Duke or the specific white supremacist groups mentioned, stating he would need to research them before issuing a condemnation. The media's focus on this association is analyzed as a coordinated attack.

donald trump· david duke· kkk· anti-defamation league· cnn

1:50:50 I didn't know. Oh no, there was a guy who was standing there with a KKK shirt everyone's yelling at him to get out and then Trump walks around you know he kind of inflates his chest and he goes over and he stares the guy down and he walks back and says Yeah, it's incredible. These days you can't just do what we used to do is kick this guy out. He said a couple of things in one of his speeches where he says I'd like to punch the guy. So all the liberal media gets all bent on him. Oh! He talks about violence! He said he'd punch him! You can't say you're gonna punch someone if you want to punch someone if you say you wanna punch them Here's a somewhat tepid response about... He was cornered by this again and the good response.

1:51:56 I don't know anything about David Duke, okay? I don't know anything about what you're even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists. So...I don't know! Did he endorse me or what's going on because You know i know nothing about David Duke and I know nothing about white supremacists And so- He is saying it twice again those lovely cadences Well your asking me a question that im supposed to be talking about people that I know nothing about But the question from the Anti Defamation League Even if you don't know about their endorsement, there are these groups and individuals endorsing you. Would you just say unequivocally you condemn them and you don't want their support?

1:52:33 Well, I have to look at the group. I mean, I don't know what group you're talking about. You wouldn't want me to condemn a group that I know nothing about! If you would send me a list of the groups and I will do research on them and certainly I would disavow if there was something wrong but you may have groups in there that are totally fine it would be very unfair so give me a list of the groups and i'll let you know okay I'm just talking about David Duke and the Ku Klux Klan here but... Honestly, I don't know David Duke. I don't believe I've ever met him. Pretty sure didn't meet him know anything about him. Fantastic! He didn't disavow anything? What are you saying, he's actually being honest about it. Like Obama when they had that somebody ginned up some phony baloney thinking about some poor woman administrator in the Department of Agriculture or someplace and he fires her based on a Breitbart clip. You're fired what did I do?! There was an interesting question that came up during the White House briefing

CHAPTER 26 / 44 Discussion

White House Press Briefing on Unemployment Numbers

White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest was questioned about Bernie Sanders' claim that the real unemployment rate is closer to 10% due to labor force dropouts. Earnest pivoted the answer to criticize Republicans, despite the critique originating from a Democratic candidate. The exchange is highlighted as an example of political "house of lies."

josh earnest· bernie sanders· unemployment rate· republicans· white house

1:53:30 I don't know who asked the question, but it was you know the spokeshole. What's his face? Josh Earnest The answer was even more surprising because someone was on the wrong script and then it was so apparent that no one, it just goes by like wow! No one's noticing this. Thanks Josh. You mentioned in your slide presentation that unemployment falling below 5% is one of the administration's main economic accomplishments but Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders has made a frequent that the real unemployment rate is above 10% because of labor force dropouts. Does the White House agree with that economic theory, that real unemployment is above or above 10%, and if yes do you bear any responsibility for that state of

1:54:19 of real unemployment and the number of labor force drive-outs. Okay, so if it was hard to hear I'd be saying a frequent talking point of Bernie Sanders in the Bernie Sanders campaign is that the number of 5% unemployment is bogus and because of the participation rate is probably higher around 10%. John you've been talking about this for what five years? Yeah at least five years at least ever since the economy collapsed in 2008 So again the question The Bernie Sanders campaign keeps saying this. They keep saying that this is low participation rate and that's why the number is bogus, it's higher, it's probably double that according to the Bernie Sanders campaign here's the answer. Byron I think the point is simply this we've made a lot of important progress in the last seven years and part of that progress can be measured by the way that the unemployment rate has been cut by more than half from its high around 10% to now below 5%.

1:55:15 That is undeniable progress that some Republicans will continue to deny. Wait a minute, why does he say Republicans? The question was Bernie Sanders camp then he says some Republicans will deny this Undeniable progress that some Republicans will continue to wait for it Does it again what's also true and I think this is the point that Senator Sanders is making Is that We can't let up. We need to continue to be focused on making sure that we're expanding economic opportunity for the middle class and... Hey, so he just turned it around and said I think the point Senator Sanders is making is not that your numbers are full of crap but we really need to keep going! ...that were expanding economic opportunity for the middle class and that were making the kinds of investments they're gonna benefit future generations of American workers And again unfortunately

1:56:05 Well, and so that means... Did you hear? He was about to say it. He caught himself but then he does it anyways As the president has said doing things like raising the minimum wage and investing in early childhood education And offering two years of community college education to students that are willing to work hard for Unfortunately Republicans While some recognize that more work needs to be done, have exactly the wrong prescription. They actually want to go back to the policies that led to the Great Recession in the first place. It's about Bernie Sanders! They just wanna go back to cutting taxes for the wealthy and for wealthy corporations. Doesn't make any sense...

1:56:50 And it certainly is a vision that is not consistent with what President Obama has fought for, for the last seven years. And its not consistent with the kind of vision thats being articulated by Democrats out on the campaign trail. Well done! Well done Ernest! Not only did he say the Republicans are saying this but even said Bernie Sanders has the right idea with his comment. Mind boggling. It's a house of lies. Well, I mean talking about that sort of thing this is was the...I caught this little uh.. I wondered why Democracy Now really annoys me because they keep pulling this crap and it usually it's about climate change but they have brought out a little clip in there about Cruz and how he'd you know those filmographers who did the Planned Parenthood undercover videos? They had

CHAPTER 27 / 44 Discussion

Planned Parenthood Video Indictments and Media Bias

The indictment of undercover videographer David Daleiden in Texas is discussed, with Ted Cruz suggesting he would pardon the activist. Media outlets like "Democracy Now!" are criticized for using biased language such as "anti-choice" and "highly edited" when describing the videos exposing Planned Parenthood's practices.

planned parenthood· david daleiden· ted cruz· megyn kelly· democracy now

1:57:45 grand jury to see, you know if these Planned Parenthood officers were criminals and then they indict these two people. Right Which means that's what the target to begin with because that's the way grand juries work So she decides to discuss this by pulling out a clip from The Kelly Show, Megyn Kelly's The Kelly File about Trump's crews saying he'd defund them Now, I think that the point of this clip is different altogether. And the real reason that she does this clip—I think it will be obvious to you when you hear this clip. Meanwhile Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz has said he would pardon David Daleiden, an anti-choice activist who was indicted by a Texas task force last month on charges stemming from the highly edited videos he shot undercover at Planned Parenthood.

1:58:35 remarks in response to an audience member's question during a special edition of Fox News' The Kelly File Wednesday night. Sorry, I died if there was something. I was supposed to catch I didn't yeah Yeah, you didn't because this is how good this let me listen to it again allow me don't tell okay But obviously tell you that this meme has gotten to the point This is what bothers me about these guys They jump on these memes and they just ride them and write him right into the sunset until it was okay? Yeah, that's right Okay, let me listen again publican presidential candidate Ted Cruz said he would pardon

1:59:11 David DeLayden, an anti-choice activist who was indicted by a Texas task force last month on charges stemming from the highly edited videos he shot undercover at Planned Parenthood. Cruz made the remarks in response to an audience member's question during a special edition of Fox News that Kelly filed Wednesday night. Anti choice? Highly edited Oh yeah highly edited Yeah you're right I interviewed and I did enjoy it And you did You looked at all these old videos They were not highly edited I mean, you know, I spoke to a Planned Parenthood person on the corner the other day. And I recorded it

1:59:48 Oh, good. But I haven't edited yet... There's still more of this by the way. ...but I haven't edited it yet and I learned quite a bit about what they're doing on the streets and who they're really working for because they're not raising money for Planned Parenthood, they're raising money for the lobbying arm of Planned Parenthood." And then I said that, I don't do that. I don't give money to lobbying groups. Anyway, I'll edit it and we'll have it on Thursdays. Make it highly edited. Well highly edited! Yes indeed. Indeed. Anyways, this should show over but this is stuff. How many more of these stupid things we're gonna get? Well what were we talking about? What were talking... We went back to debates though Bernie Sanders Oh I have Al Sharpton you gotta listen to this one If Donald Trump is the nominee I'm open to support anyone while I'm also reserving my ticket to get out here if he wins

CHAPTER 28 / 44 Discussion

Brexit Debate and Unlikely Political Alliances

Nigel Farage and communist politician George Galloway appeared together to advocate for the United Kingdom leaving the European Union. They argued that the "Remain" campaign is funded by big banks like Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan. The discussion also links EU membership to the controversial TTIP trade deal.

nigel farage· george galloway· brexit· goldman sachs· ttip

2:00:44 Only because he probably had me deported anyway So two things one There was the crazy laugh that really got me That's a sharp just write it down another person we have to remind they if it happens We'll have to remind them to go and I don't know who this woman is but It's an ISO yeah, I got I haven't I so for sure Okay now on to something else, please okay. Well let's go on to Euro lands Okay, I'm good. I'm game euro land two interesting things involving Nigel Farage We always love listening to Faraj Faraj speak

2:01:31 The first one now, this is Nigel Farage and George Galloway. There was also a Member of Parliament in the UK he has a show on RT Called Sputnik or something? What is Galloway? Is he a commie? He's a communist what it what is yes, he's a commie that's exactly right Are you being facetious or is he a commie? He's a commie. He's a commie So he has Nigel Farage on and of course what is fascinating to the commie, to Galloway is he's agreeing with the Hitlerjugend Farage. Here they are sitting together and having a conversation about how they agree that the United Kingdom should leave the eurozone and I just picked one clip where it might be interesting to listen to these two completely opposed opposite sides coming together and agreeing on the situation in Europe. I'm with you, but who are we?

2:02:26 Who else is involved and how are they organized? Well, we've got two sides to this. It's basically Goldman Sachs v the rest... No! In some ways it is. That's a good line. So they're talking about who was funding staying in the European Union while these two guys are fighting against that well it's the unholy alliance of big banks multinational businesses and big politics that is on one side of the argument So you've got some BSE they decided to call themselves. They should have thought about that really shouldn't say Britain's stronger in Europe Do you know what this what the joke is here Bob so not be se yeah, so the group is called Britain stronger in Europe Yeah, but yes II ya a bsc Google BSC right now I'll wait The first five pages are all the same be just BSE

2:03:24 Yeah, hang on. I gotta get a window open. I got the spreadsheet open but no window and so i have to open google and there it is Google and then I just type in BSE which I... And what comes up? Bovine encephalitis or something Bombay Stock Exchange at the top. Bovine spongiform encephaly. Yeah that's mad cow disease! They call their organization who wants this keep them in the EU BSE Very funny. You can't even, there's no Google juice for that! No SEO! Morons! They should have thought about that really shouldn't they? So Britain is stronger in Europe. I know absolutely That's led by Lord Rose and they will

2:04:08 used to run Marks and Spencers. Well that went well! Quite, quite! No absolutely it did not! Are we going to do as well as Marks and Spencer? So he's running the official campaign then you've got the Labour Party who are gonna do their own thing they're not gonna join up with the official campaign Alan Johnson will give his own thing on behalf of the Labour Party then of course you've got the SNP here again will do their own thing. So there are three distinct camps who are campaigning for us to stay in but they're being funded by, yeah Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan the very people who I suspect many viewers of this show... Including the Labour campaign? Well that we don't know yet what we do know is that they're going to fund the BSE campaign Labour are relying on trade unions to fund the campaign but i've detected

2:04:57 Particularly with TTIP, this transatlantic deal. The only way we can get out of TTIP is not to be in the European Union! This is a very important point that Galloway makes... If you don't like TTIP? Get out of the European Union! Brilliant! Right and I'm sensing that for the first time in nearly 40 years the trade union movement are beginning to look at this European project in a slightly different light so Labour may struggle for funding but that's that side and yes it's backed as I say by big banks and the big multinationals. And the multinationals love Brussels because they actually get to set the rules themselves. So these guys are agreeing, hell has frozen over! They agree it's interesting to watch this. Farage brought up a very important point in the Starfleet command European Parliament when was his turn to speak

CHAPTER 29 / 44 Discussion

European Referendum Season and Dutch Ukraine Vote

A wave of referendums across Europe, including a Dutch vote on the Ukraine-EU association agreement and a Hungarian vote on migrant quotas, signals growing instability within the EU. Nigel Farage's speech in the European Parliament challenged the legal binding of David Cameron's renegotiated deal, urging a British exit.

netherlands· ukraine· nigel farage· david cameron· european union

2:05:44 And I don't think that there's a referendum coming up in the Netherlands about the Ukraine-EU, NATO association agreement. Either you... somebody said something about it somewhere. And what's interesting about it, is really this kind of group of... there was a blog called Geen Stijl and they were very politically incorrect and been around for long time now decade they somehow spun off into a public broadcaster the way works in the Netherlands still with the public broadcasting system if you have X amount of paying members then you are entitled to x amount of airtime

2:06:23 And they not only achieved that, which is not a lot. It's equivalent to a day a week probably but they also got the required amount of signatures to start a referendum by the constitutional laws of The Netherlands and so now there is a real referendum started by some troublemakers but this is not the only one it's happening everywhere in Europe and it's all about the failure of the European Union project and Farage address this. Well thank you, it's already rather exciting isn't it? It's referendum season and the referendum is coming on... You didn't say this clip but where..is this him with Galloway? No I said in Europe in EU Parliament I said that Starfleet Command EU Parliament okay it's his turn to speak and EU parliament. Thank you it's already rather exciting isn't it? It's referendum season and the referendum is coming on 6th of April in The Netherlands

2:07:14 Where they're going to have a referendum. Yes, that is us over here the Dutch contingent is ready! On the Ukrainian deal and the opinion polls show they are going to reject it and just today Mr Orban has announced there is gonna be a referendum in Hungary where they're gonna have a referendum on whether they should be forced to accept mandatory quotas for migrants after after the grievous errors of the EU's common asylum policy, not to mention Mrs Merkel's pronouncements. And overnight we get a Czech Premier telling us that there is now demand building in the Czech Republic for her to have a referendum on membership. Oh and I nearly forgot! There is going to be a British referendum on June 23rd on whether we remain or leave the European Union

2:08:02 And this follows a 40-hour summit where Mr Cameron, doing his modern day impression of Oliver Twist went up to Mr Tusk and said please sir can I have some more concessions. Well he didn't get very much did he? We're allowed to change ever so slightly migrant benefits for short period time and we're told that in future we won't be committed to ever closer union. On the basis of all that We're going to have a referendum that the Prime Minister says on a deal that is legally binding. And indeed Mr Tusk joined in with this today by saying the British deal was legally binding To top that off, Mr Cameron has told us he will lodge the deal

2:08:48 He will lodge the documents at the United Nations. But frankly, you might as well lodge an old pair of socks because it's completely meaningless! The fact that you've lodged a document there and could use a safety deposit box. Is this deal legally binding Mr Tusk? Well the ECJ themselves said in 2008 that the obligations imposed by an international agreement cannot have the effect of prejudicing the constitutional principles of the EU treaties, which means the ECJ rule in favour of existing treaties until we get a new treaty. But he's talking about the Lisbon Treaty here which was supposed to be...

2:09:33 Constitution of Europe and got voted down by the Netherlands and France, and then they said oh you didn't do it right let's vote again. That's why I want to do a new one. To say there is going to be a new treaty any new treaty would trigger yet more referendums that would not be favoured i think for the big groups in this parliament but of course we have an emergency break that being judged to be a great success But, crucially that happens through secondary legislation that can be voted on by this Parliament. So what happens? We have a referendum we follow Mr Cameron and vote to remain and then we come back to this Parliament Is this parliament going to support British exceptionalism I think we've heard voices today

2:10:20 that make it perfectly clear that will not happen. So the deal Mr Tusk and Mr Cameron if you're listening is not legally binding in any way at all, and I have to say the British public will decide which is our safest option? Is it safe to stay within an organization whose own police boss tells us there are three to five thousand terrorists that have now come into our continent through the migrant crisis or is it safest to take back control of our own borders and our own democracy. After much consideration I have decided to opt to vote for us to leave." Yo, yo! There you go. Kind of explained the situation

CHAPTER 30 / 44 Discussion

Swiss Deportation Referendum and Neutrality

Switzerland held a referendum on a proposal to make it easier to deport non-Swiss citizens convicted of petty crimes. The initiative, backed by the Swiss People's Party, faced criticism for potentially creating a two-tier justice system and damaging relations with the European Union. The unique linguistic and cultural landscape of Switzerland is also noted.

switzerland· swiss people's party· deportation· immigration· neutrality

2:11:06 Well, this is the most interesting thing of our era. Yeah! And the American public isn't quite as aware of it as they should be but this is an outrageous situation and that's developing. You can think about it you have a bunch of independent democracies and they join to do some sort of trade deal then they very slowly through a process of bureaucratization... Like boiling frog theory? Yes running out of Brussels But this has been going on since after the war with the European Atomic Energy Coalition, whatever it was called. And going on right ever since I've just been a... It's slow and it's coordinated by the elites and of course I have my theory as to why that is. Unelected elites, I might point out

2:11:54 Yes, unelected elites who have been trying to get this so we can get a Europe that is under their control and it's peaceful. So they don't have their stuff stolen which seems to happen over and over again in Europe because you can't get them acting. The elite stuff. Yeah, the elite stuff. And so it doesn't work out there's going to be a civil war as a result And I don't even know how this thing, if the Brits voted to get out of the EU that wouldn't trigger it right there. And if they stay in its gonna happen anyway! This is a foregone conclusion these people do not work well together. No historically it's not been a great idea. Well the Swiss who are not even in the EU

2:12:42 They have their own referendum going on. It's the controversial black sheep poster urging Swiss voters to make it easier to deport non-Swiss petty criminals The right wing, Swiss People Party is behind a referendum taking place today Its notoriously difficult to get Swiss citizenship even for third generation immigrants born in Switzerland All foreigners and those who have lived here for over 30 years, foreigners who were born here in the second and third generation they are all foreigners. A quarter of our population is submitted to a supplementary punishment which the rest of the population does not have this is blatant injustice he says. The provisions of the so-called enforcement initiative conflict with EU association agreements on freedom of movement

2:13:28 If accepted, it would create a two-tier justice system. One for the Swiss and one for the so called foreigners many who have lived in Switzerland since birth It would also damage Swiss relations with its most important trading partner the European Union Yes They're taking their typical Switzerland position as usual. Get everybody out, we're neutral! Yeah get out! F off we are neutral I don't want you around here get out of here, get in my vagina Well if you have enough money you can easily become a Swiss citizen yeah I know couple guys who did that and they... As far as i know there's... Isn't it expensive in Switzerland?

2:14:16 I don't think it's any more expensive in Switzerland than it is the rest of the EU. It's a little pricey sometimes, but not really out-of-control prices like Hong Kong for example. So I don't know. Switzerland is clean that much I can tell you and they make decent wine which is kind of a surprise. Nice air! Yeah. And they have three languages, which is kind of contradictory to all our beliefs about having one language for your country? Yeah you need French and Italian and German... Swiss-German I think it's what they call it. It's a Swiss-German. And they make meatball that's pretty decent!

CHAPTER 31 / 44 Discussion

Hillary Clinton Campaign Pundits and Media Conflicts

An investigation by The Intercept revealed that several frequent TV pundits, including Stephanie Cutter and Maria Cardona, have undisclosed financial ties to the Hillary Clinton campaign or pro-Hillary Super PACs. These individuals are often presented as objective analysts on networks like CNN and NBC despite their active consulting roles.

hillary clinton· stephanie cutter· maria cardona· the intercept· cnn

2:15:11 Okay, let me see that's I had something to play this clip. This is they had Tina Fey on This was a Saturday Night Live as a rerun but Tina Fey doing her what's-her-name the Palin Sarah Palin There's a moment in there where they cut to her and she makes this sound This was a repeat. Was it really old one or what? How old it was I maybe wasn't new one. I mean, I can't but I didn't notice I just watched this part and then I turned it off went to bed What is that sound no Maybe she used Rubio shill just using a different way

2:15:53 Yeah, I think that's a keeper. Wait a minute! You know what this needs? Hold on a second... Okay here we go This will be in the end montage for sure even though i'm crippled without my device It's a cult. that kind of Chinese character. He's not Chinese, I don't know what he is a mixed race who writes for the Intercept and he just did this great story about all these shills on TV they're on the Hillary campaign payroll you mentioned earlier about some of the smart stuff Hillary is doing and this is I think one of the smartest things she's done because as they bust her... Who reads The Intercept? And who watches Democracy Now! That you'd get this but this is the clip is corrupt pundits

2:16:51 So, that's Stephanie Cutter. And she is being interviewed on Meet the Press by Chuck Todd. So, Lee Fong, explain what we don't know when we hear her speak and she is introduced? Well, Cutter was—on Meet the Press was introduced as a former Obama campaign official, a Democratic campaign expert. But what was not disclosed was that the firm that she co-founded, Precision Strategies, has been retained for consulting work by the Hillary campaign throughout last year. Including the time that she came on NBC's Meet The Press to discuss the campaign and the state of the race. But this is just one of many examples. For example, we analyzed transcripts for

2:17:37 50 different segments in which CNN had one of their contributors, Maria Cardona come on and discuss and largely praise Hillary Clinton. What wasn't disclosed is that Maria Cardona—her lobbying firm Dewey Square Group has multiple financial ties to the Hillary Clinton campaign. They're retained by both of the big— pro-Hillary super PACs. Maria is a campaign contributor to the Hillary campaign, she's also a super delegate that has pledged her support to the Hillary campaign but in virtually all of these CNN segments Maria has been asked to come on to the air and she's praised the Hillary campaign but she's been presented as an objective pundit who is just there to discuss the state of the race. And who was this woman again John?

2:18:26 Stephanie Cordona and this other cutter woman. This is a, but the article in The Intercept cites a whole slew of these people who are who are being brought on as the talking heads, as objective talking heads when they're all working for Hillary. And this is like... Is this the Booker's problem? How did these people get on in the first place? Who's calling them?" For one thing you just don't show up on these things unless you know where the producers are. No I'm sure no here's how it goes. You get a phone call hey hi hi hoi yeah but i'm here over that hillary campaign we've got someone great dynamical look fantastic she she's really going to be good and take

2:19:02 And the booker goes, good give me the phone number. That's easy I hope it's not that bad Well you have...you place a lot of value on the production quality and booking quality of these stations Well i just hope it's not that bad where somebody calls directly from the Hillary campaign says oh she can be objective They do it from the Pentagon all the time what difference does at this point does it make? At this point Yeah The Pentagon gives them the punsets. This is why I really appreciate people who write us notes and they say, oh i can't listen to mainstream stuff any of it. I have to listen to you guys. Well good! This is one of the reasons why exactly

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Global Donor Roll Call and Birthday Wishes

A comprehensive list of donors from North Carolina, California, Virginia, and international locations like Australia and Canada is read. The segment includes specific "de-douching" requests, birthday shout-outs, and job-seeking "karma" for listeners who have recently been laid off.

north carolina· san diego· australia· canada· donations

2:19:52 I find it very distressing to hear that. And the report, you can read us in The Intercept they're actually doing some pretty good stuff there. I agree with that. Finally! We have a few people to thank for show 803 starting with Eric Braley and Polesboe Washington great little town He wants a, by the way he wants a planes good trains bad thing if you can slip that in at the end it'd be great. Ah okay. Others you don't have to. No I'm happy to do that

2:20:33 Uh, Borislav Marinov. Anyways 1-2-3-4-5 from Eric. Uh, Borislav Marinov 12345 in Trabuco Canyon California? Huh? He's recently laid off so he's gonna need some job karma for you. Jobs karma on there as well yes we'll take care of that David Fox in Wendell North Carolina 12345 and he's the one that has something to do with that meetup We're talking about what does he say? What is he saying Oh the North Carolina meetup. Yeah, I got you. Yeah Kevin Thomas oops one two three four five in Smyrna Georgia and You've got the newsletters says go podcasting Sean Connolly in San Diego California a hundred Nicholas Zabatino in San Diego California also 100 Jay Kumar

2:21:24 He's heading our buddy from Beverly, Massachusetts. Nuts! 100. Then we drop down to Nicholas Samaras in Haymarket Virginia 9876 got a birthday anonymous 8888 and Sultan Washington. Bum bum baroness Monica Monica Lansing in Drayton Valley Alberta Canada $80.30 Sir Kevin McLaughlin, Locust North Carolina. We got a lot of North Carolinians coming in today they should all go to the meetup small state nice. Small batch in a small state. Small batch! Sir Kevin McLaughlin and Locust North Carolina another I just said him William Mitchell in uh... And by the way sir Kevin McLaughlin is 69-69 William Mitchell 66-66 parts unknown Sir Kevin Dills in Charlotte North Carolina

2:22:16 Today's North Carolina Day, ladies and gentlemen. 6432 Oliver Reich in South San Francisco California 60 Code Name Jim Kettering Ohio 5678 James Williams 5550 double nickels on the dime from Phoenix Arizona Josh McDonald parts unknown double nickels on the dime and now the rest of these are $50 donors Aaron Havens in Spring Texas Daniel Torellio in Charleston, South Carolina. He can make the North Carolina meetup. Christopher Quiroga I'm guessing in Porter Texas Tom Weaver and Fowlerville Michigan David Durall in Malta New York these are all 50s Jake Counts in Duluth Georgia

2:23:06 He has a list of crazy requests. He has a couple of... Douchebag call out to my podcasting partner Josh Wiley. You do not get to let your girlfriend donate and get off the hook! We got the birthday call out, I believe. And we'll give a de-douching at the end. Heather Erickson in Austin Texas. These are all 50s. Peter Totes in Parts Unknown. Gerald Annabonay in Union South Carolina. John Gatti in Fredericksburg Virginia Donald Napier in Oviedo Florida, I'm hoping

2:23:55 Bryn Evans in Berwick, Victoria Australia. Shad Rich parts unknown and the Bendigo sir Mark Tanner in Whittier California and finally Stephen McConnell in Cortland, Ohio. Those are all our $50 donors and that concludes our list of well-wishers and donors and helpers and contributors and producers for show 803 couple of donations from the meetup And let me see what do we have I have the first one here from Chris Davidson? Then he is In envelope a nice Walmart corporate offices envelope $100 thank you very much

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Meetup Donations and 2000 Election Collectibles

Donations collected at the Fayetteville meetup included an original, un-voted "butterfly ballot" from the 2000 Palm Beach County election. Other gifts included a 100 trillion dollar bill from Zimbabwe, a Donald Trump Christmas card, and various naval submarine challenge coins and patches.

fayetteville· palm beach county· 2000 election· zimbabwe· donald trump

2:24:35 Then we have Rick Leisure. Leisure, leisure L-E-A-S-U-R-E And Rick has a note, hold on... and he donated $60 thank you very much In the morning Adam & John when I heard you were coming to Fayetteville wanted to have a meetup I was really excited then I realized i've been listening for at least seven years and never donated I've always rationalized that it was okay. I had quote good reasons crushing student loan debt, no job shitty job etc The truth is i've been a boner for too long and I couldn't look you in the eye tonight without donating I know It's a pittance compared to the value you've provided to me for all these years I pledge to make up the balance going forward big thanks To you for coming to the meetup? I hope you enjoy Fayetteville hit me up with any questions You have about the area thank you for your courage love and light rick leisure leisure Thank you very much rick

2:25:26 And then, one of our... this is poorly documented. You guys need to help me with the documentation One of the producers gave me an original copy The official ballot Palm Beach County Florida General Election November 7th 2000 This is the... I guess this is the... The Chad one! Yes, the Chad one. I have it here Unchatted that's free. That's collectible beautiful is I'm very happy with that yeah, that's a very big collectible It's not worth anything now maybe $1 But it's something that museum will love to get 20 or 30 years from now very nice

2:26:05 Then I also received this, like historical stuff. December 2nd 1987 This is the prescription for world peace and prosperity So it's a pamphlet with head and hands around the world joined in international sisterhood and brotherhood we the people With Morse code SOS The messenger...I'm not quite sure what this pamphlet is Does this ring any bells John? What this thing is I want you to read it. Who wrote it? Who published it, who wrote it? It's kind of unclear... In this is letters from the... I don't know what this is man! This is..I gotta look into that. Now then someone and I'm sad that I don't have the name was a red envelope with no agenda on it inside of it was the official Donald Trump Merry Christmas Happy Holidays Merry Christmas card

2:26:59 The one from the campaign or one from his family? This is from the campaign with Make America Great Again on Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays. We are together going to make America great again I love you all Donald J Trump but inside the envelope were the cool things besides and i really need to know who donated this $50 dollars and a crisp 100 trillion dollar bill from the Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe Yeah, I have a couple of those. Now the beautiful thing... And he showed it to me and didn't know that it was in the envelope He apparently went out and made a bunch of these chips That you put on a greeting card When you open them up then the card plays a song or something? Yeah Except- Yes Well yeah, I have a few of those You can program some of them Right This is what happens with this one

2:27:54 You've got karma. Really? That's cool! Yeah, and I don't... Oh wait it won't stop now of course. It'll stop. He has to cover the light or something he usually has a... Yeah some sensor. Photovoltaic thing going on. And I didn't get around to talking to him a little bit more about it but what a great little gadget and he had, I guess he had a bunch of them. And besides that he didn't do anything with the project and I dunno. I dunno. No, Sam sent me a couple. This sound very annoying. Oh, I think maybe was from Guy Nichols Maybe oh man you'll find out yeah i'm sorry So I want to make that I want to make good on those so make sure you Give me a holler and I also have a patch for you John a patch Which is uh? I think it may even be an iron-on banger Washington CSS 17 919 NSSC Naval Submarine Support Center with the trident logo on it

2:28:58 That's cool. Oh nice yeah, that's from Washington State Yeah, I drive past that there was a huge sub The dude named Jim the submariner. I think he was stationed up there for awhile on the trial Okay, then I got to challenge coin. I got the USS Hartford Submarine service pride runs deep very cool Nice for the collection That's it Thank you very much for supporting us. Lower today than normal, but that's what happens We go up and down with the tide as it were And we of course will be doing a program on Thursday and we hope you'll all join us for that. Look karma for the people who need it! You've got karma There we go

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Knighting Ceremony and Title Changes

The show announces the elevation of Sir Guy Boise to the rank of Black Baron. Additional "human resource" announcements include the birth of a new baby for Jared and Kim Hall, along with several listener birthdays.

black baron· guy boise· knighting· human resources· birthdays

2:29:56 It's your birthday, birthday. Oh no, oh no, a champion! Alright today we say... well actually welcome a new baby, new human resource Jared and Kim Hall wrote in so congrats on that let us know what his or her name will be Mark Klager celebrated his birthday on the 25th Jake Counts says happy birthday to his podcasting partner's girlfriend Madison Risco. She turned 18 on February 26th Nicholas Samaras has happy birthday with son Aiden who will be 12 on March 1st and Daniel Torelli Oh Celebrates his birthday in March first as well. Happy birthday Molly buddies here is the best podcaster We have no nightings today, but we do have a title change sir guy Boise But now is a black baron I don't know how he messed it up, but he becomes a black Baron

2:30:45 This is uh, very nice. He sent a note in saying he made this level and then we I guess we lost it in the mail or something. Oh okay well that happens So then they sent it again Now I have two clips that kind of tie together from two different angles which I wanted to do It's kinda tech news but not really Um...I have one tech news piece you wanna start doing a tech news theme? I wasn't quite set up for it, but if well you know what? It'll make sense if I do. I started here then we'll go into that will get into with you So I just have a little thing little little package is that okay can we? Anyone out there can isolate so that little statement You just made to be hilarious a little package. I have a little package okay. Let me see 239. I got it Thanks John

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Cyber Bombs and Second Amendment Encryption Defense

Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter's use of the term "cyber bombs" to describe digital attacks against ISIS is analyzed. This terminology supports a theory that encryption should be classified as "munitions," thereby granting it protection under the Second Amendment as a means for citizens to arm themselves with privacy.

ashton carter· isis· encryption· second amendment· munitions

2:31:40 This was on NPR, Secretary of Defense of the United States of America talking about ISIS and what we're doing. So if I may ask you about that because in the course of your testimony before Congress you did say that US Cyber Command is now launching attacks against ISIS and there would be many people I imagine out there who would say What? We're not doing that already?" I mean, ISIS—there is this dual front. There is the battlefield and the air campaign and the war happening against ISIS in Iraq and Syria and other places, but then there's the online component. Why is a cyber dimension only happening now? Well, other parts of our government take action

2:32:23 in respect of law enforcement and intelligence efforts for people, for example, to plot in the United States. I'm talking about something different." I'm talking about attacking the ability of someone sitting in Raqqa to command and control ISIL forces outside of Raqqa, or to talk to Mosul. Or even to talk to somebody in Paris, or to the United States. So these are strikes that are conducted in the war zone using cyber essentially as a weapon of war just like we drop bombs were dropping cyberbombs.

2:33:00 Cyber bombs, John. Cyber bomb! But this is an important thing he's saying and I would not have brought this topic up today if it weren't for the cyber bomb comment. A couple people sent me a link to a podcast called The Tech Syndicate which it's actually not a bad show It's a bunch of neckbeards you know they got their cool glasses... it's sysadmins doing a podcast but I say neckbeard with love obviously And they were talking about the Apple encryption thing as it relates to the Constitution. Upon hearing Ashton Carter just say that these are, if you will, cyber bombs, it gave me reason to play this short clip. Justice Scalia just died and he was sort of famous for saying that the Constitution occasionally does protect criminals just as it protects ordinary citizens.

2:33:58 And if this goes through, it is a breathtaking expansion of power. I think that historically encryption has been classified as munitions when we're talking about Lotus Notes in that era, encryption was classified as munitions technically still is classified as munitions Intel and Intel subsidiary was fined for giving strong encryption to some foreign country that the US doesn't like which is the first action like that the State Department has taken forever And that was in 2014. And so I guess technically, encryption is still classified as a type of munitions but our founding fathers the founding the fathers of the United States used very strong encryption encryption that there was basically unbreakable in the day for private communication and private correspondents to ensure that and so I think it's not too far off the mark to classify encryption as munition

2:34:53 But I think classifying encryption as munitions also gives you second amendment protections. As a citizen, I have the right to arm myself with encryption." I thought it was an interesting take! I like that theory...I mean when he mentioned this no one's ever pulled the plug on some of this stuff like they do with Intel in 2014 He implies that its never been done before and its not true There was a lot of that kind of activity during the freakish era of the PGP and before they would pull it. The government was all over this, and they also busted Toshiba for something, although it's hardware related we were very strict back in the day

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ENCRYPT Act of 2016 and Digital Privacy

Representative Ted Lieu introduced the ENCRYPT Act of 2016, which seeks to preempt state and federal mandates that would require manufacturers to build "backdoors" into encrypted devices. The bill aims to protect the ability of companies like Apple to sell 100% secure products, framing the issue as a Fourth Amendment protection against search and seizure.

ted lieu· encrypt act· apple· fbi· fourth amendment

2:35:36 But yeah, I like that. I like the idea that it's protected by the Second Amendment That's fantastic thing isn't it? I like that a lot Yeah now there is a bill that was just was introduced last week Which I have a copy of that were light relates to all of this its from Ted Liu you of California And it is called the Ensuring National Constitutional Rights for your Private Telecommunications Act of 2016, better known as... It's always fun to have an acronym. The ENCRYPT Act of 2016 and this has been introduced and its very short

2:36:17 It has a couple of sections, preemption of state data security vulnerability mandates and decryption requirements. And then here it comes in general, a state or political subdivision of the state may not one mandate or request that a manufacturer developer seller provider of covered products or services A a. Design or alter the security functions in its product or service to allow the surveillance of any user of such product or service, b. To allow the physical search for such product by any agency or instrumentality of a state, a political subdivision of a state, or the United States c.) Have the ability to decrypt or otherwise render intelligible information that is encrypted or otherwise rendered unintelligible using its product or service

2:36:59 Prohibit the manufacturer sale or lease offering for sale or lease or provision to the general public of a covered product Or service because such product or service uses encryption or a similar security function This is a it's almost like almost reads like a constitutional amendment Because it is a prohibition on the federal government and the states. I don't know if that could be done this way do not outlaw the creation of the uncrackable device, which is what we've kind of been waiting for in this thing from Apple. This appears to be some kind of pre-marketing at this point and they even talk about just a definition, the covered product or service so...this is the device or service or product which is pretty much everything you have an internet of thing land that may not be forbidden by the government

2:37:50 So these term, these covered products means any computer or hardware computer software electronic device or online service that has traveled in interstate or foreign commerce. Or otherwise affects interstate or foreign commerce and is made available to the general public Online service, the term online service means a service provided over the internet that makes available to users the ability to send and receive communications such as emails text messages photos and audio video communications. And then the ability to share data files etc so it's really a prohibition on the government To allow... The only way I see this is to allow Apple or any manufacturer of device or service to create something that is 100% completely secure and sold as such

2:38:33 And this seems to be what it was all about. That wouldn't surprise me because it's a marketing tool you need to, you can get something we can't be screwed with when it comes to this sort of product cause these are international companies Apple They have to sell to the Greek government and they can't be worried that there's back doors and all kinds of things. You know, they have to be secure because this is just the way it is. Of course! Otherwise they lose their market But for me much more interesting is we never had this kind of power as citizens to keep our papers safe from search-and-seizure Fourth Amendment

2:39:16 But even though we heard our tech guys say, well our founding fathers used for the time unbreakable encryption. But are we allowed to have it? That's the question and can these citizens have it? Yeah you know what I mean sanctioned as such Well, this has been an issue we've talked about on the show before. The government doesn't like the idea because they don't want it...because the FBI in particular they don't really want to do any work I heard of interesting thing is that well let me get my tech stuff up here for a second. So I got my tech news piece, run it. He has his tech news and here we go. From Northern California Facebook asking do you like something or do you love it? Here's David Wright

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Facebook Reactions and Devaluation of Emotion

Facebook's rollout of "Reactions"—including Love, Haha, Wow, Sad, and Angry—is critiqued as a tool for advertisers like Chevy to exploit user sentiment. The hosts argue that these features devalue genuine human emotions by turning them into trackable data points for corporate marketing.

facebook· reactions· chevy· advertising· social media

2:40:10 Facebook has long acknowledged the limitations of like. There are more sentiments that people want to express than just positivity or that they like something so as of today there are more ways We have a tremendous problem take that new Game of Thrones parody currently making rounds The greatest builder is me and I I would build the greatest wall you have ever seen. Winter is Trumping? It was originally produced for the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, well instead of thumbs up you could now give it a love or a wow or ha-ha or even sad or an angry. A feature that advertisers like Chevy are already looking to exploit. Start loving! So far love is the most popular option in general that is what's not to like about that

2:40:58 David Wright, ABC News New York. Do they really think this Chevy really think that oh let's get a lot of these likes and smile the smiley faces and hearts And there someone's gonna buy the car because of that you know this just shows how desperate. They really are Just the desperate what a way to devalue love That's what I don't like about yeah, there's that deep valuing the emotion of love The like was already dodgy now as I loved it sucked

2:41:49 Join us on Facebook and like us. Love us! It's on television they keep saying that. Love us on Facebook, yeah Anyway, that's my technogen kill this segment. Yeah segments killed I'm done and dumb with the techniques we can always me I'll play it out if one Thank you very much rather jobs good tech news for the tech And the phone should be made out of big light We got one last topic tonight yeah want to discuss mm-hmm Academy Awards are tonight yes Yes You mean there? The white awards

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Academy Awards Diversity Controversy and Hollywood Cliques

The "Oscars So White" controversy is debated following a PBS NewsHour segment on the lack of diversity in Hollywood. The hosts argue that the industry operates through informal "cliques" and friendships rather than overt racism, and that the "liberal" decision-makers in Hollywood are the ones being criticized for their own hiring practices.

academy awards· oscars· diversity· hollywood· pbs news hour

2:42:27 You're not gonna be able to watch him. He'll be on the road ah that's not true We are leaving tomorrow Then I have the log well, I hope because I tried the login earlier and it was occupied or whatever But don't try it The log occupies a time in a bathroom know the login login if then the system was logging into toilet yes sure So they're trying to, you know this bull crap thing about the white producers all white actors. I mean there's...I mean best director is going to be won by a Mexican okay? And i said okay. Did you just say- You did not just say okay! I said okay.

2:43:06 But the Mex, you know they've been the best cinematographers is I think he's Mexican to us that somewhat specious for which movie is this guy's this for? The revenants yeah the ritardo DiCaprio's movie retardo exactly Ritardo DiCaprio I've heard that one before, but it's a winner. So they're trying to make hay with this stuff and all I'm hearing...so PBS is they did a segment with three boneheads one of them is a black guy who was professor at UCLA and another one just an analyst in the third person who makes zero sense with anything she says It's just like listen listen I don't know what she's saying. It's like somebody asked the question do you like cheese on your hamburger or not?

2:43:55 And she'll say, it's worse than that. So without answering the question... Citing no proof? Everything she says is a non sequitur so we'll play her lies but this is play these poor guys trying to get make a topic out of this and when you listen to any of the arguments it's like movies are actually small disposable companies. Yeah they're LLCs that never have make a profit And they're put together, not at the spur of the moment but there are a group of people that work together to produce a single product for a...that's sold to a distributor and sold to a production company so they get money. And the whole thing is just...and it's done you don't...I mean except for Star Wars. They tend not be one shots and done by a group of friends

2:44:47 I mean, that's what you see in Hollywood a lot. You see these groups... If you're in one of the groups if you're an ingroup it's a clique like Scorsese for example so he uses the same actors all the time. You get a job! That's how you get into business. You make friends with these guys at parties and say yeah I like you I'm gonna put you on one my movies and then you are in all his movies But let's listen to the way they try to describe it as though it is General Motors or US Steel that need to hire more Hispanics. Oh, I see! I get it. A news site covering the entertainment and media industries and welcome to all three of you. I want to start with you Darnell Hunton help us first briefly define the problem and what do you see at its source?

2:45:33 Well, what we're dealing with is a disconnect between on the one hand the increasing diversity of American society—we're almost 40 percent minority—and on the other hand, the fact that stubbornly the industry just can't seem to make diverse projects. In our study, we find that on every front people of color and women are underrepresented behind the camera and in front of the camera. And yet, we also see from audience consumption patterns that people of color, diverse audiences crave diverse content. So, we have a situation where the people who are running the industry and largely white males aren't in the position to make the types of projects that people want. And that's the fundamental issue is trying to figure out how to bring more people in the room, how to get more voices and perspectives into the process. What bullshit is this?

2:46:18 If Hollywood knows that there's some people want they make it. That's total bullshit So Alex Nogales tell us how it plays out you work sometimes with the experiences of Latinos and others What kind of roles they get or don't get? What kind what they run up against as writers or directors Well, they can't even get in The opportunities are not theirs Darnell just said a problem is that you have 95% whites in leadership positions at all of the studios, the six studios here in town. And you have a majority of them being males. So they rose up into ranks this whole thing called film and they've made their alliances, they've made their friendships, they've made their relationships and so when it's time to call for new product that's who they call in

2:47:15 It's ridiculous to listen to this, because these arguments don't understand the way any of these businesses work. That's not the way it is! In the old studio system that used to exist where everyone had to go through the system I could see this argument working back then but it doesn't work anymore. It's bullcrap now and here and the irony of this is actually presented in the second clip which is the woman who doesn't make any sense You can listen to her entire spiel. She makes no sense, she just throws words out it's like listening to an insane person but But, she makes one point that I thought was funny. Which is that all the people in the business are the Hollywood liberals and they're the ones bitching about this! The Democrats! Well Sharon Wackman is that the industry you see? That you cover every day? Is it about who you know? Is it about overt racism or sexism? Is it all about money what?

2:48:13 Well, I think it's worse than that because you have a culturally very liberal entertainment industry—famously so—in which people are politically very much to the left. You see that in some of the programming choices and the messages, whether it's Norman Lear for so many years on the television that he wrote and heavily influenced American society in the 70s or whether you see that with Will & Grace or shows like, shows like that, that push the needle forward on social issues all the time. But it is true decision-makers being primarily white and male, with some notable exceptions has been the case. I do think that this is essentially a small community of people who come up together who call on their friends if you were in a studio job and you leave the studio job you become a producer and your buddy then calls you up and asks you for your latest pitches so it has to be a more thoughtful

2:49:12 thoughtful, significant and proactive effort to change that. Yeah this is it's fun to watch this because the whole we need to be equal black lives matter all lives matter white lives matter brown lies man it's coming too ahead and ultimately it's the dollar that matters I mean if anyone has any illusions that any business could do better with diverse content, whatever diversification but they're not because of racism is dumb. Well they're living in a dream world with Hollywood Yeah you know it doesn't matter how you get into Hollywood They are saying well the

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Streaming Services and Original Content Strategy

The original content strategies of Amazon, Netflix, and Hulu are compared, with Amazon Studios described as "naive" for funding sketchy projects to meet diversity quotas. Upcoming shows like Hulu's "11-22-63" and new seasons of "Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt" are mentioned as the industry continues to throw money at building market share.

amazon studios· netflix· hulu· original content· 11-22-63

2:50:04 The up-and-coming minors, they want to watch diverse programming but they... No. Diverse content John. Diverse content. But they pack them in at Star Wars. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Does billions of... Ultron the... One black guy! Avengers Ultron does a billion or two billion dollars in sales that but this is where the what movies are people are going to see yeah I mean it's like give me a break Yeah, and I just thought they run that stuff just to show they did because you could tell the guy on the news hour was struggling Trying to get what is the real complaint here? What's really going on and he can't couldn't get it from any of these people We're going this we're going to see shake out of a lot of things. You know, I've been monitoring what Amazon and Netflix and Hulu

2:50:54 You know, they're all doing this original content and what you're seeing slip into it slowly is diverse content. And I think Amazon is really the... They are falling for this! They are falling for this! Then I think that people who are running the Amazon Studios will say oh yeah we need to have more diverse content of this kind. We need more brown people. The Amazon Studios is definitely the most naive. Yeah And the projects are quite sketchy projects. They have hit a couple of interesting ones, I believe but it's not they're just throwing money away Yeah yeah well this has to be a shakeout anyway this has to be Amazon that is throw it but Netflix is also throwing money away They're not recouping that that money and all those series we just try to build market share and maintain it

2:51:43 And hope you get a hit. Yeah, and if it would work better... That's not throwing money away the way Amazon is doing it? I'm sorry yes you're right because Amazon has a lot of crap product And you know, you see like my favorite show Lilyhammer. You know three seasons I gotta tell ya I was midway in season two and like yeah it's getting kind of boring I don't like it and then it's done and it's over that's how it works there is a white guy and everything just doesn't work go away What are we watching on these things now? What do you mean

2:52:22 What shows? I mean, i will watch the Kimmy Schmidt show. Is that back on? On Amazon and all these other things... Is there a new season of that? It's supposed to be out in a few weeks so I'll probably plow through that. I will watch at least start and see how far I get with 11-2263 which is supposed to be good. And I've not heard about this That's the uh that's the show that Hulu produced because everyone's got to get into the act And so they've done it, supposed to be really outstanding. Very outstanding and everyone likes it I've gotten some emails talking about it. Um...I don't know what else I'm gonna watch? I don't know, I don't see any- I mean I do watch the comics Netflix has comedian specials They have a comic come out and they do an hour they actually do their set live and its much better stuff than you see on HBO

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Rotherham Child Exploitation Scandal and Media Suppression

A massive child sexual exploitation scandal in Rotherham, UK, involving thousands of victims, is highlighted. The National Crime Agency reported that local authorities were in "denial" about the scale of the problem, partly due to fears of being labeled racist because of the perpetrators' Pakistani heritage. The media is accused of using the Jimmy Savile report as a distraction.

rotherham· uk· child exploitation· jimmy savile· ethnicity

2:53:18 That's worth looking at seeing these different comics. I'm not that excited. Yeah, me neither it still watch NCIS Think this is the best structured show and on television so I only have like bummer stuff but clip wise I don't want to end the show with bummer stuff But I will tell you on Thursday there's a pedo-bear stuff happening with the big distraction being the Savile report of 1,000 pages. Meanwhile in Rotherham... Actually I probably should play this because it is a big distraction right now and all the talk in the United Kingdoms of Gitmo Nation East

2:53:55 is predominantly about the Jimmy Savile abuse and the BBC, and it's a thousand page. And that's what the big news is I've received from several of our producers some of them actually kind of rude like well I'm sure you won't cover this you'll only go for blahblahblah It took me four years. That same guy, block him! No I stayed on and said... And i'm asking questions well tell me what is this about? Oh you'll probably just do the Savile stuff anyway and then finally I say don't be such a dick tell me what you're trying to communicate I have no time for playing around at 12 midnight the night before the show give me some information

2:54:35 So, it is important to play at least these two clips short ones just so you get an idea and I'll do more research on people will help me more. So in Rotherham, the UK several years ago, there were a lot of accusations and it turned out that the city council...that they were running a huge prostitution racket with young girls in the town. The cops were in on it! It's insane! And to boot this was a click of...and the term then I'd say this will be the wrong term because they have like... Where is Rotherham? Rotherham in the UK

2:55:15 Yeah. I don't know, i haven't looked it up. Look it up on the map. They have what they call you know Pakistani heritage or something? I'm not familiar with the terms people are going to start helping me but this is Pakistani town but I don't if it's a Pakistani town but the city council there's words for it Pakistani heritage and whatever but that may not be the main idea. But now we know, we've had this report and it turns out it was horrendous! Thousands of girls were trafficked by these assholes and this is the stiff upper lip of The British here's a member of parliament Sarah Champion from Rotherham Here's how she responds to it In America of course would be at we'd have lynchings We get these guys and we're tying them from... you know we're killing him at this point Now heres The Brits deal with it I think that the government absolutely has to stop banning Rotherham

2:56:05 Can you hear this at all or is that too boomy? It's really hard to hear. Ah, screw that I'll play the uh instead of her i'll play... And then and I will mention now Rotherham which is in South Yorkshire. Yes, yeah south yorkshire. Child exploitation. Yeah. The Wikipedia has got a good rundown on it look up Rotherham R-O-T-H-E-R-H-A-M, child sexual or anything and you'll get it. So go to the show notes and watch the video of the MP but here I have the spokeshole for the National Crime Agency unsure exactly what that's equating... Yes? It went from 1997 to 2013.

2:56:41 Then here's the spokeswoman for the National Crime Agency. I was shocked by what I found in Rotherham, in part because the local authority when we inspected it were still in a state of denial really about the size of the problem that they were dealing with and what they had to do to go about taking appropriate action In the inspections view, in my view they continue to let children down. By so doing they let the residents of Rotherham down as well and I feel that in order to get their house in order they need significant help from central government and thats why I've proposed to the Secretary of State that they go into quite significant levels of interventions

2:57:17 I think the issue here is that Rotherham has essentially not faced up to some very difficult truths. Not looking after children effectively, not dealing with an issue of ethnicity in all circumstances to do with the race of people that perhaps perpetrate child sexual exploitation, these are very difficult things to handle I admit that. But nevertheless they need to face up to it and they should be doing a better job My view is overall the council is not open to uncomfortable truths and needs help in order to basically get its house in order and do the residents of Rotherham a better job than is currently happening It's unbelievable

2:57:54 This is so downplayed. But meanwhile, there's like 40 cops are under investigation and everyone is distracted with the Jimmy Savile. Yeah that would keep your attention. Let me give you the background. Early to mid 90s social workers came across example 90s sexual child by 11 years old at mid concern of young people being trafficked through a prostitution ring in Rotherham, a youth project risky business Working with people between the ages of 11 and 25 was set up in 1997 when this all began. In 2002, a chapter of Draft Home Office report Child Sexual Exploitation in Rotherham reported high prevalence of young women being coerced and abused through prostitution." They did bust a couple guys like 10 years later And these guys all I don't want to generalize because I do not know what the ethnic makeup of town is but if you...the names that came up Zafran Ramzan Adil Hussain Mohsin Khan

2:58:50 goes on and on with it with a kind of era Arabic names and Just the whole thing this is gonna. This is gonna be a mess yeah, but it's it's being downplayed quite a bit by By the mainstream media well of course you know they have They have a hand in this because when you look at the whole scope of it But that the member of Parliament when she said this could affect a million no say like a million children across all of the UK. It's too bad you just can't hear it, it's too boomy but everyone needs to go see what this woman is saying This is really insane

CHAPTER 41 / 44 Discussion

European Migrant Crisis and Free Speech Suppression

In the Netherlands, a protester was arrested for wearing a pig-themed hat at an asylum seeker center, deemed "insulting" to migrants. Reports suggest that Facebook and Twitter are policing "hate speech" against refugees at the request of European leaders like Angela Merkel, potentially stripping verified status from journalists who criticize migrant policies.

netherlands· angela merkel· facebook· hate speech· refugees

2:59:31 And then the last thing, just because another thing if you're going into the show notes 803.noagendanotes.com look for under caliphate... Look for the... No actually under shut up slave I'm sorry that's where it is There was a protest at one of these asylum seeker centers in The Netherlands That's what they call them Asylum Seeker Center And the Dutch are there and they're protesting, saying hey we don't want any more of these migrants coming in. Then it's a peaceful protest although you know they're getting riled up The cops come in and there is two people who are wearing like kind of hats, woolly material but these hats have pigs head on top and ears flopping down over your ear

3:00:19 And the cops say to them, these two protesters you have to take the hat off. One lady does and one guy says no why should I take it off? It's insulting to the migrants and you have to take it off. He said no I'm not going to take it off. They arrested him! They arrested him John! Arrested him! You're not following the rules, your're not obeying Zuckerberg has admitted that Facebook will be doing even more to police hate speech against the refugees, particularly in Germany as Angela Merkel requested. They're going to be doing more and there's rumor now... There's rumor that if you, certainly if you're a journalist and you write something negative about the migrant situation in the European Union there is rumor I'm trying to get it confirmed that people are losing their verified status on Twitter and Facebook for saying this.

3:01:13 There's no loss to you. I love it, but i love it and there is another little line here this is interesting because of the most that i'm reading at the page because most of the perpetrators were of Pakistani heritage so this is a Pakistani heritage thing yeah several council staff described themselves as being nervous about identifying the ethnic origin of the perpetrators for fear of being thought racist yep This is a real funny problem if you think about it. And this will be interesting. I have to, now you got me interested in this. This is being, you're right it's suppressed. I never heard of this there was a big wiki page on it. So even though the approach of our producers are somewhat odd, I really appreciate it thank you for bringing us to our attention. This is why we are the best podcast in the universe Yeah most people wouldn't they just shut these people out. Oh yeah get rid of them But they have good material once and awhile Great material and that would be

CHAPTER 42 / 44 Discussion

Kraft Macaroni Recall and Hillary Clinton Indictment Rumors

Kraft recalled 6.5 million boxes of macaroni and cheese due to potential metal contamination. Separately, rumors circulate that FBI Director James Comey may be preparing to indict Hillary Clinton, which could lead to his resignation if the Justice Department blocks the move. Concerns about Bill Clinton's health on the campaign trail are also noted.

kraft· macaroni and cheese· james comey· hillary clinton· bill clinton

3:02:13 Miss if I did not to tell everyone about the big craft macaroni and cheese recall Oh, No bad news. Yeah there they're recalling Where is it here? I think they're recalling five million What do you call it not packages packs of packs? Yeah, it's like powdered cheese This would be bad stuff. I mean this stuff is desiccated Nothing can grow on it well apparently unless they I'm looking for the for the article Apparently there some kind of cancer-causing metal that got into these It's so bad

3:02:57 It is, this is really bad here. I got the story here. Craft recalls... Here we go 242 thousand cases equaling 6.5 million boxes of macaroni and cheese are being pulled off their shelves because they may contain metal contamination And then there's of course which boxes you need to do and let me see if it tells us what that is Hmm they are not telling us what the metal contamination is probably from a grinder But the he... Oh, here it is. Now this is a weird... now this article did something weird because this article then comes in with something saying oh be careful for the red food dyes mmm okay that's not really fair what they did spirit science but the recall apparently real for metal filings nice nice very tasty and I was listening to one of the later in the day

3:04:01 Right-wing talk shows and this guy came on and he says that Comey director FBI Call me of the FBI And just may apply to or you know the guy who got busted for the photo They can bust up his photos archive is being examined. Oh, yeah Yeah, a lot of stuff subtle stuff going does call me is about to indict Hillary That's the word They're gonna put up an indictment and they're going to give it to the Justice Department who will table it. And that will be followed by Comey's resignation. Oh! Because he is planning on this, he's planning on being tabled. He knows its not going to get anywhere. Makes sense It's gonna result in Comey's resignation and a huge scandal

3:04:49 Oh my goodness, and the scandal is going to be what? Over them sitting on the diamond and not doing anything. And Loretta Lynch not doing it...and Obama being somehow connected to this cover up. I don't know! It's just speculation but i thought it was entertaining speculation. I like that very good. Yeah, I think the Democrats are freaked out about Hillary Because, you know she's a powder keg. I mean anything can happen before the election and anybody could get in on the Republicans Well you should go pick up The Truth You know what The Truth is right? Yeah, National Choir Here it is...the headline Bill Clinton Health Crisis On The Campaign Trail They have picture after picture of Bill looking dead

3:05:47 I'm sure they do. Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign is under a new strain as the former first lady sees her husband turning into a liability, shocked political insiders are talking about a different Bill Clinton on the campaign trail this year with cranky Clinton even telling a former Marine to shut up and listen! Sometimes he seems dazed said a veteran journalist following the campaign sometimes he just seems tired and sometimes you get the feeling wants Hillary to lose the nomination of this whole thing would be over That's a reasonable analysis. Yeah, well it's still possible I'm still holding on to sorry but Bill is not gonna make 2017. I think the odds are very high yeah which is going to get her all of the sympathy vote and she'll be fine just oh man this this is gonna be breaking this week so I want to make sure we get on

CHAPTER 43 / 44 Discussion

Melissa Harris-Perry MSNBC Departure and Race Card

MSNBC host Melissa Harris-Perry penned a public letter refusing to host her show after it was preempted for election coverage. She accused the network of silencing her and "tokenizing" her voice, using racially charged language to describe her treatment. The hosts critique her reaction, noting that preemption and cancellation are standard in the television industry.

melissa harris-perry· msnbc· brian williams· race card· television

3:06:46 Melissa Harris Perry, sometimes I play clips of her this annoying woman on MSNBC. Yeah And if i just look we probably have tons of clips of her that we played she's always Black Lives Matter let me see she's smug She's very smug when you seem a list yeah We've had looting at violence but The New York Times showed Malik in a hijab. She's always about equality and she is, she's a professor and but as she wrote an open letter that actually said she had someone publish on Medium an open letter that she sent to her nerd crew which I guess is what he calls the production staff for her show about her disappointment

3:07:41 Then what has happened is, now first of all MSNBC has crap ratings and they're in trouble. And they brought the guy back from the broadcast board of governors who was in charge of propaganda for the United States to the world. They had to leave and come back to save MSNBC. It's now The Place For Politics that's their new slogan. I mean it's all day long! The Liar...what's his name? The Liar Guy Liar guy Cruz no on the the news guy the liar guy Brian Williams, Brian Williams Oh Brian William they did around to Brian Williams Rachel Maddow and they've flown Melissa Paris Harry in To be there but her show has been preempted because of the election coverage

3:08:23 And she's gotten really, really angry and penned the following note which I need to share. Maybe we should say up front that this is television you know? You have a show and it's doing great or whatever you think is doing great but then you get preemptive sometimes! Or maybe it changes...or maybe its not working out It does happen She writes, as you know by now my name appears on the weekend schedule for MSNBC programming from South Carolina this Saturday and Sunday. I appreciate that many of you responded to this development with relief and enthusiasm... To know that you've missed working with me even a fraction of how much have missed working with you all is deeply moving however as of this morning i do not have any intention of hosting this weekend because this is a decision that affects all of you and i wanted to take a moment to explain my reasoning

3:09:10 Some unknown decision-maker presumably Andy lack or Phil Griffin These are the these are the big guys at the network this added by name mentioning them in a note. Oh, yeah That real smart to her staff which she specifically said please publish has added my name to this spreadsheet, but nothing has changed in the posture of the MSNBC leadership team toward me or toward our show. Putting me on air seems to be a decision being made solely to save face because there's a growing chorus of questions from our viewers about my notable absence from MSNBC coverage." Social media has noted the dramatic change in editorial tone and racial composition of MSNBC's on-air coverage. There is the first, she is black because I didn't mention that. In addition Dylan Byers of CNN has made repeated inquiries with MSNBC leadership and with me about the show and what appears to be its cancellation. I have not responded to reporters or social media inquiries however I am not willing to appear on air in order to quell concerns about the disappearance of our show and her voice Here is the reality

3:10:13 Our show was taken, without comment or discussion or notice in the midst of an election season off the air. After four years of building and audience developing a brand to developing trust with our viewers we were effectively and utterly silenced Now MSNBC would like me to appear for four inconsequential hours to read news that they deem relevant without returning to our team any of the editorial control and authority that makes MHP so distinctive And then emphasis on the word stink. And then the kicker The purpose of this decision seems to be provide cover for MSNBC, not to provide voice for the MHP show. I will not be used as a tool for their purposes! I am NOT a token, a mammy or little brown bobblehead! I'm not owned by LAC, Griffin or MSNBC! I love our show! I want it back! I have wept more tears than i can count and find this deeply painful but

3:11:13 I don't want back on the air at any cost. I'm only willing to return when that happens under certain terms." So she played the race card! Unbelievable! Everything she did there was wrong. Yeah, and just to explain... Television? You get fired you get preempted you get moved around no one gives a shit about you No one- The network doesn't- They only care about ratings but You know, when... what was the moron? Sometimes they don't even care about ratings. They might not like you at the moment. That's true! When Ed Schultz got fired he went to RT to the hellhole of cable news. Might as well move to The Yukon Did he say, well clearly they had too many white people on the air This is so wrong this shit has gotta stop

CHAPTER 44 / 44 Discussion

Show Outro and Travel Plans

The program concludes with a summary of the Fayetteville meetup and plans for the eight-hour return drive through the Ozarks. The hosts thank the listeners and producers for their support and announce the next broadcast for the following Thursday.

fayetteville· arkansas· ozarks· airstream· adios mofos

3:12:04 Stop after the Academy Awards at least for a little while You think so now we're in for a long haul on this bullcrap John. I'm sad to say I'm sad to say all right well, that's I think everyone caught up Yeah, I think we're done very good Groovy And you're gonna have a nice drive. You're gonna go through van you're gonna go through Van Buren I guess you're gonna try that um, but we're saying your honor just your near I didn't know it right? I always think Fayetteville South But it's up at the top there you up by the Ozarks yeah Near Missouri you to get back home you almost damn near have to go through Van Buren Yeah, that's the plan

3:12:47 Yeah, that's the plan. You're not gonna go to the wine country though? Uh... we'll see I mean the problem is of course it's eight hours at least drive back. If you don't if it's gonna be too much work Don't do it okay It's beautiful but forget it Van Buren you get it We will be coming back up here because the kids got four more years So I'm sure we'll be here again Okay well then you can go to the winery and look forward to it now I want to thank everyone who was here at The Meetup thanks for being so kind thanks for Good time It was fun. Nice to meet all of you, a very intelligent, fun diverse group and coming to you from the Airstream of Consciousness parked five minutes from the University of Arkansas in Fayetteville In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where i've got universities around me too I'm John C. Dvorak We will be back on Thursday right here on NO Agenda Adios Mofos!

3:13:46 Jobs jobs jobs and jobs. Let's vote for John. You've got karma You don't say like I'm gonna be on I ate it, I ate it, I ate it Screw it and chomped it down at the same point I'm not dumb, howling the meal Pepper on my back Grind black pepper on my back Grind black pepper on my back All aboard trains good, planes bad. It's sausage Sunday when we share sausage just like family. Hey man fist bump.

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