Episode 775 · Thursday, 19 November 2015

Fear is the Product

Intelligence agencies and media outlets manufacture a product of fear as Russia bypasses NATO to coordinate with France and the EU faces a migrant-driven identity crisis.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 775

About this episode

Rita Katz and the Site Intelligence Group are marketing fear through the discovery of a 19-second ISIS video targeting New York City. While former CBS reporter and current NYPD official John Miller claims the group's Dabiq magazine features complex bomb diagrams, the publication actually displays a simple Schweppes soda can with a detonator. This discrepancy highlights a broader trend of intelligence agencies and media outlets like ABC News using dramatic B-roll and unverified claims to drive national security narratives.

Vladimir Putin has ordered the Russian Navy to coordinate directly with the French naval battle group in Syria, effectively bypassing NATO structures. This shift occurs as the Russian Air Force deploys Tu-160 White Swan supersonic bombers and targets ISIS oil tanker convoys that the US-led coalition previously ignored. Meanwhile, State Department official Victoria Nuland is linked to regional strife in Montenegro, and CIA Director John Brennan faces scrutiny for a Freudian slip referring to the United States as a melting plot during a global security forum.

Christiane Amanpour continues her advocacy for military intervention while TSA officers appear on no-fly lists and Whoopi Goldberg makes historically inaccurate claims about Adolf Hitler on The View. The program features a satirical ISIS theme song and a deep dive into the Marfa Lights of Texas, concluding with the Gitmo Nation national anthem.


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CHAPTER 01 / 46 Discussion

Sauerkraut Season and Polish Delis in San Francisco

The hosts open the program discussing the seasonal nature of cabbage and sauerkraut. They highlight a specific Polish deli in San Francisco called Seykor that produces its own sauerkraut on-site.

sauerkraut· san francisco· polish deli· cabbage· seykor deli

00:00 Oh yeah! Documenting the piecemeal world war across all Gitmo nation and broadcasting live from the capital the drone star state here in FEMA region 6 Austin, Texas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where it's sauerkraut time. I'm John C. DeVore What what what sauerkraut time yes sauerkraut time

00:36 Is that because of, no, Oktoberfest has come and gone? Why is it some form of cabbage grows in this time? Well cabbage is a winter fruit as we all know. Is it a fruit? No, it's not. I just said that to be funny. Oh, well, you know, I don't know. Sometimes cabbage is a is made used to make sauerkraut. And there's a great deli in San Francisco called Seykore, I think is spelled S-E-K-O-R-E. It's a Polish deli and they make their own sauerkraut on the premises, much like if you were in any parts of anywhere. But sauerkraut, isn't it something year round? I didn't know there was a season for sauerkraut. No, there's not.

CHAPTER 02 / 46 Discussion

Slave Speak, Content Trigger Warnings, and Language Evolution

A discussion regarding "slave speak" and verbal fillers like "it is what it is" and "at the end of the day" leads to an analysis of language evolution. The conversation explores how modern communication through emojis and tablets may be reducing technical savvy in children.

slave speak· content trigger warnings· orwellian speak· b-formatives· emojis

01:16 but there's a season for me getting it. Ah, okay. And um... Stop! Before we go any further we have to play our obligatory content trigger warnings for the best podcast in the universe. The 4AM Podcast segment by John C. Dvorak, where C stands for content trigger warnings, contains slave speak. And oh wow, um, right, okay, so You know, guess what? At the end of the day, the fact of the matter is basically it's funny when all is said and done. Essentially I'm telling you, by the way, be that as it may, the thing is now that you mention it, as I was saying, in other words, no matter what, but really look, seriously, my point is literally listen, the truth of the matter is, you know what? I'm just saying this is all the verbal equivalent of anal leakage.

02:00 Listen discretion is advised fuck it. I you know amen this month Now I'm getting better every day. I had a call with somebody yesterday who twice said On the list yet. Oh new one new one new one. Yeah, but you you said you hear you say you should have been on the list It is what it is. Oh excellent Excellent. We're getting some suggestions. You were going to send me the list so I could put up the website. I left it in the kitchen. I brought it down for dinner. I brought it down for dinner with that bunch of people over. So you were going to read it at the dinner table? Yeah, I did. And they added a few extras and it's still down there. Okay. I've got to go get it. Yeah. Now, I've received a lot of new people. People are really, they like this.

02:47 Although I've heard it should now I got a note from our mutual Podcaster Jen brainy ah Jen yes, she'd sent she listened to she's working on something that she answered She doesn't need our help. She just needs our we're kind of collaborating with her and She said we're that there's another one. We should put on there. I guess we're saying it. I don't remember I don't notice it. We're gonna have to start painting now and Mmm, that's that falls in the so category. I think now I do do we do that is we're gonna come out no I don't think so. No, I don't think so. I don't think we do that But annoyed her enough that she mentioned it in the last note hmm. Maybe we do I know we'll have to be careful

03:34 We're not gonna be able to The dinner was this guy you can't say anything no soon. We'll just be talking in emojis Yes, smiley face Water droplets eggplant mmm cherries talking in that code that none of our producers keep sending in Yeah, red dot blue dot fire hydrant exactly exactly oh man. Oh, man. Oh Man, oh man, that's one. Man, oh man? Yeah, but that's not a... That's old, so that doesn't count. I also got some suggestions. Instead of calling it slave speak, we could call it B-formatives, as in before you say something, a B-formative. A lot of these that we have on the list are not B-formatives. Like amazing, for example, is not necessarily the beginning of a sentence. Correct. There also knows... Right. Right? But you have to say it in a question. Right?

04:29 That's more like Silicon Valley douchebag VC pitch speak. That's at the end of a sentence, an okay, which is also the same thing. Right? This, I was reading, someone sent me an article about Orwellian speak and that what we call the slave speak, the B formatives is a part of that. We're really, you know, what's happening with language and yeah, language, I would say. You know, we've laughed about it for decades, but, oh, we're just dumbing everybody down. But if you put the emojis and how that's how we are being forced to communicate, we're being trained to communicate. If you put, if you take that and what was reading? It turns out that the more children are introduced at an early age to smartphones and iPads and tablets, the less tech savvy they actually are. And that doesn't surprise me.

CHAPTER 03 / 46 Discussion

Dabiq Magazine, John Miller, and Intelligence Agency Shilling

The hosts examine the 12th issue of Dabiq magazine and the career of John Miller, a former CBS News reporter and NSA official. They criticize Miller's transition between journalism and intelligence roles, labeling his reporting as shilling for the state.

dabiq magazine· john miller· cbs news· nsa· site intelligence group

05:32 These kids don't know what a driver is. Driver. Is that the guy that works for Uber? You know, a driver mismatch. These kids don't know about that. When we were growing up, John, it was all about the drivers. Actually, yeah. It was all about the drivers. In fact, there was a a moment in the early days where you had to write your own printer drivers to get the printer to work. That's right. You had to write your own drivers. Excellent. You did. Excellent. Excellent. Or you traded them. A lot of people traded them. You went, so you write a driver for me to do this. Right. Okay. And it had to be in machine code. So I got a copy of the latest Da Beak magazine.

06:22 This is number 12. Is that the one with the can bomb in it? It is. And by the way... You can't say that, man. I'm saying what I want to. But I did that too. I can't win. Let me just say this about that. Go for it. Now they're gonna be I don't know what is the never mind. Well indeed never mind Let me just play something and then we'll understand a little bit more about Dubbeak magazine which is distributed very much like Was it other phony boney thing? Oh, I forgot vision. No no sweat No, what was it called it was well, I have it here. I'm there. I have it here somewhere anyway, so John Miller

07:08 Who used to be with inspire inspire? Thank you, which is apparently out of circulation I guess they couldn't get enough ads or something well I think the writers quit and went over to the big leak or whatever this thing does peak D a biq but John Miller used to work for wasn't he 60 minutes CBS 60 minutes I think he was no it wasn't 60 I don't think he ever was on the 60 minutes team, but I think he was I think he was CBS and he's like a now now he's back with he's the assistant spy. Well, of course, he's a spy. Remember he did the he used to be NSA. That's what it was. And then he did he did he did a couple pieces for he did the big 60 minutes NSA piece. That's what it was. And it was a complete shilling.

CHAPTER 04 / 46 Discussion

Site Intelligence Group, Rita Katz, and ISIS Fear Marketing

Analysis of a 19-second ISIS video threatening New York City reveals it was discovered by Rita Katz and the Site Intelligence Group. The hosts argue that these videos are professionally produced marketing tools designed to sell fear, often using repurposed footage.

rita katz· site intelligence group· isis· fear marketing· reuters

07:49 And now he's standing next to Mayor de Blasio of New York talking about how we don't have to be worried about this 19 second video, which we'll get to in a second. But what he was saying, I'm catching him in very obvious lies that are easily verifiable. In some sense the footage isn't new, the sentiment... We all know what this is about, right? Right? Oh no, you better write. Right? There was a video that was released that was threatening, about 19 seconds, that was threatening New York City. after threatening Washington and so... It's a shake. It was the equivalent of a fist shake. Here we go. In some sense the footage isn't new, the sentiment is certainly not new and I assume that the NYPD just is constantly presuming a threat like this exists. Is the danger of this video that's out just recently that it might be that nudge for anybody like you who sees it?

08:49 Well, ISIS has had a two-fold approach. One is these organized external plots and we've only seen that recently with the plane down, the Beirut attack, and now the Paris thing. Great how it's all just now a given fact, right? I am Mr. Roboto. Isn't it great that it's a fact now that the plane and Beirut and Paris all guaranteed ISIS. We know for sure. But their main bread and butter has been recruiting people online. That's not bread and butter. Did they bring money these people when they recruit them online butter? Do these are these people rich or something? Hey bring me some bread and butter, but their main bread and butter has been recruiting people online butter the video I know But it refers to a financing and that sort of thing it doesn't refer to recruits Oh, maybe their main source of recruits. Yeah, it's from their online system. He say that system

09:44 platform system let's call it a platform platform exactly we are main bread and butter has been recruiting people online the videos are part of the cheerleading section of that that's for one audience the flip side of that audience is fear is the grist of the tariff mill and the videos are meant to inspire film. So one part is for potential recruits. The other part is for... What? Yeah? Did he say beer is the grist? No. Fear. What did he say? Fear is the grist of the terrorist mill. It's too long for a show title, but it's a good one. Of the terrorist mill. I'll play it for you again so you can hear what he said. I don't see any sexy cheerleaders.

10:41 And so you got the police commissioner and the mayor going to Times Square last night standing out in the open saying we will not be intimidated, do not change your lives. But it's the timing, John, of this video more than the content of the video. In the wake of the Paris attacks, in the wake of the raids in Paris yesterday that proved there were more terrorists perhaps waiting to carry out attacks, it doesn't seem far-fetched. I think one thing that ISIS understands almost better than terrorism is marketing. Yeah, this is why they can't figure out their name is because they're so great at marketing. No, I'm not so sure They're great at marketing mr.. What you saw last night was a commercial It's meant to sell a product the product is fear and the question is who produced a product is fear. Yeah There's a title write it down

11:29 Yeah, so this is a commercial right it's I guess in sort of form of a native advertiser But it's a commercial and the product is fear the question is who made the commercial. That's what I'm a very once again They made it yeah the site intelligence group who does who discovered it once again Rita Katz oh I found a 19-second video. As soon as I saw that thing, I said, I'm not even going to bother. But I'll bet you Adam finds out it was made by the site intelligence group, because that's every one of these, everything that we've seen over time has been from this exact same group. It's not coming from here and there. Even when Al-Qaeda with the tapes from bin Laden, they were coming in from every which way.

12:10 Yep, this is all from one single source and not one media outlet has ever discussed it as such. This is from Reuters, the Islamic State video which runs for nearly six minutes includes a scene that appears to show a suicide bomber making preparations and zipping up a jacket according to a description provided by Site Intelligence Group, a Bethesda, Maryland organization that tracks militant groups and discovered the video. Oh yeah! Oh, stop. Was the question asked by these fine reporters, where did they discover the video? No, let me see. No, it doesn't say that. But you know it's on a jihadist website. How was it discovered? Dark web, dark web, dark web. Oh, dark web. Rita Katz. Oh, the dark web, man. Site director Rita Katz said in an email to Reuters, quote, footage of New York shown in the ISIS video was taken from a video released by the group in April of this year. It's a repurpose.

CHAPTER 05 / 46 Discussion

John Miller Claims Regarding ISIS Bomb Diagrams

John Miller is accused of lying about the contents of Dabiq magazine during a media appearance. While Miller claimed to see a bomb diagram, the hosts note the magazine only featured a photo of a Schweppes gold pineapple soda can with a detonator.

john miller· dabiq magazine· isis bomb· schweppes· fbi

13:05 So while New York City is and has been a target for ISIS, today's video does not warrant any kind of panic. Oh, okay. You could have fooled me. I have a big stink about this panic thing. Now let's continue with John Miller with his big lies. Could it happen here? Of course it could, but that's because it could happen anywhere. Are we better prepared here than most if not all other places? The answer to that is yes. One of the unfortunate parts of your job is you're a consumer of a lot of this ISIS media including that online magazine Dabiq which now features an image that ISIS purports to say is a bomb that brought down a Russian jetliner. In your view, is that credible? And secondly, why would they give that away? What's the thought?

13:45 there. I mean obviously Trump can't do this. Now listen carefully John. She sounds like a dead cat. That's Savannah isn't it? I think it's Savannah. It could be. Listen carefully to what he says and I'm looking at Da Beak number 12 as we speak. Well it raises the question can you accept their claim of responsibility? Let's say for the purposes of this discussion they are. Savannah, what you mentioned is their Dabiq magazine which came out yesterday. I am a regular consumer of Dabiq magazine. This was a... Now notice that she said earlier, this is how pre-interview works, she said just before that in her question, she said, one of the unfortunate things about your job is you're a consumer of ISIS propaganda.

14:28 And now he's saying, yeah, I'm a consumer. This is all orchestrated. This whole interview was already set up. And I'm comparing it actually to Inspire. This is a professionally produced piece of work. And just like I always feel that I can tell if a video production was a US entertainment product, I'm pretty sure this is also a US entertainment product. And the layout, the photos have got these... The types of cuts.

15:13 Yeah, the types of cuts, but this... I think the types of cuts is almost like a fingerprint and it tends to be much different in the United States. We're the ones that are setting the pace, the stage for the future of the way people are going to cut things. And this is not cut like anything you'd see naturally done. In in the Middle East it's just it's not the way they do things now This is John Miller who is claiming to be an unfortunate consumer of this I submit to you He has not actually seen the the beak magazine This is by no means quickly thrown together all the the foot photography is great layout is great if John if I and you'll get this after the show

15:56 You would be proud if this was your no agenda newsletter. You would be very proud at the let not Are you what are you saying? No, it's good using in design for this thing probably this was getting that certain looks good and Yeah, and this guy did not let me ask you an interesting. There's a kicker to this, but yeah, I Is it possible that he's not actually allowed to look at it? Remember how the CIA and the NSA have all these rules? Oh no, you can't go to WikiLeaks. You just can't. It's against the rules. I think he's not allowed to do that on government.

16:32 The computing devices. No, the way I know. Okay. That was the if you can't you can't find some sneaky way to go look at I mean people do it you know they have somebody else booted up and then they fall on the trip over a cord and then they look up and there it is but except for something like that no. So in looking through this entire magazine 66 pages PDF let me just see what the if there's a release date on this hold on. I'm just looking in the info 18th 18th no okay, so there is indeed a photo which you've which has now been republished broadly of the Schweppes gold pineapple can with a little with a detonator and then some kind of device that can I can't get so beat up and it's like rusty on the bottom these are aluminum cans Well, yes what it doesn't end up by a new and why was it Schweppes?

17:30 Is this a promotion? Are they getting a little finders fee of some sort to promote Schweppes? I think that's kind of ridiculous. I think they could have at least put some tape around it or something. The thing is that John Miller is claiming he has read this magazine, says it's thrown together, hastily thrown together, it's not. And then he comes and at the end he says something which proves he has not even seen this issue. This was a quickly put together issue. It is clear that when they had the attacks on Friday, they cobbled together an issue and they wanted to take credit for it as much as possible.

18:10 Our bomb squad, as well as the FBI's bomb techs, are looking at that diagram saying, what they have here, could it have done what they said? I'm sorry, there's no diagram. There's no diagram. There's no diagram! There's no instructions, there's no diagram, just the photo. Lie. He's a liar. Lie. Now, people, for some reason, the media is so afraid to show this video, which as we now know, was just a subset of images taken from the Site Intelligence Group, who found it on the dark web from back in April. And, you know, where we're happy to show dead Palestinian children, anything, you know, we show lots of stuff, but we can't show this video. Well, before you go to the video, can I stop you for a second? Because as you're on the process of the bomb, I had to get my clip list. Okay. ABC...

CHAPTER 06 / 46 Discussion

Brian Ross, ABC News, and Soda Can Bomb Tests

ABC News correspondent Brian Ross reports on the plausibility of a soda can IED bringing down a Russian jet. The segment criticizes the use of dramatic B-roll showing a large aircraft explosion that may not accurately reflect the power of the device shown by ISIS.

brian ross· abc news· ied· soda can bomb· explosives

19:09 You've got to play this clip on the bomb. This is ABC News on the soda can bomb. Just incredible images tonight. In the meantime, we turn now to the other developing headline this evening. ISIS releasing this image in the pages of a propaganda magazine. A soda can and wires, what they call an IED, an improvised explosive device. ISIS claims smuggled onto that Russian passenger jet. Is that what ISIS calls it? Wow, these guys are good at coming up with terminology, huh? What an acronym. IED, never heard of it. The plane breaking up in air, killing all 224 on board. ABC's chief investigative correspondent, Brian Ross, on whether a bomb in a soda can is plausible and their new claim. Brian Ross. Yeah, that guy's a tool. The components are simple, costing no more than $50. A soda can packed with explosives and a few wires. But bomb experts say it could produce a blast much more powerful than the one in this government test.

20:05 ISIS today proudly displayed what it says is the bomb that brought down the Russian jet. A swift gold... What? Stop for a second. You can just back it up a little bit. They said the bomb in this test, they show a B-roll of it appears to be like a, I guess a... Wait a minute, it looks like you're out in the desert in New Mexico. Yeah, it's a mothballed, it's like a mothballed 767. Oh, okay. Yeah, so it's sitting there and they put and they blow the thing in half It was just a huge explosion blows the thing to smithereens and was that old jet Did you see them put the can in first? No, they didn't do anything. This day. He was just referring to apparently some experiments And so he says it would be worse than this. Oh, this was like this blue

20:54 I'm not an explosives expert, so I don't know if a soda can like... C4 probably. I don't know. Well, it's not C4. They're saying it's the TAPT. I don't know either. Could produce a blast much more powerful than the one in this government test. ISIS today proudly displayed what it says is the bomb that brought down the Russian jet. A Schweppes gold pineapple drink can stuffed with explosives would be ignited by this small detonator with a blasting cap stuck into the can. wired to this, the switch, with a timer likely hidden behind the black tape. Close the switch and arm the timer to start its countdown.

21:38 And boom the plane I could have sworn that was an alarm clock it did not look like a bomb blew up 22 minutes after takeoff Yeah, timer now here now. This is the difference between a pro like Brian Ross mm-hmm putting a package together with this dramatic explosion and then this Switch in the timer and this guy this stooge from the CIA is Who, uh, what's his name? That other guy. What's his name? Uh, Brendan? No, no, the guy who just talked to you. Oh, he was NSA. John Miller was NSA. John Miller. I mean, the difference between Brian Ross and John Miller is like night and day. Miller's there talking like a robot. He's not even interested. Get rid of him! And he's lying. And he's lying. He's not even doing a good job. Would you like to hear the video? Yes, I would. Actually, I have not heard the whole thing.

CHAPTER 07 / 46 Discussion

ISIS Propaganda Songs and TSA No-Fly List Irony

The hosts play a satirical take on an ISIS theme song and discuss reports that 75 TSA officers were found to be on a no-fly list. This is framed against the backdrop of the Metrojet flight bombing over the Sinai Peninsula.

isis song· sharia law· tsa· no-fly list· metrojet

22:31 Oh, well, I only have the relevant part from it. I don't care. Well, you know, they're catchy, these guys. So now we have the ISIS song in French. Maybe that was around, but I hadn't heard it yet. You know, the ISIS theme song. Did Rita work out of Hollywood? No. I thought we looked her up or something. I don't know if she specifically worked in Hollywood, but we know what she's about. Tell me these guys are genius, these ISIS guys. Come on, it's one of our guys. You westerners will crap your pants. Listen to the lyrics. Under my sharia law, we're going to blow up Paris, France. Too early? I don't think so. Under my sharia law, there's only one thing that we want.

23:33 to rape a load of Swedish blonde-haired whores under my sharia law. Woo! Carry on! Very funny. You do what? You know the problem when you do these bits where you try to set me up? Yeah, you're interjecting the whole time. Because, yes, this is the flaw, but it's a flaw in your presentation that urges me to interject. Oh, it's my fault. I'm sorry. Well, in terms of me wrecking the bit... It wasn't me wrecking the bit. Me wrecking the bit is my fault. But why do I wreck the bit? You don't lead me into the bit properly. When you sound really excited about playing a clip, I have to back off. It's alright, it's alright. It sounds legit, that's for sure. It doesn't sound legit! It sounds legit!

24:32 You've been hanging out with Rita? This is the bomb ISIS claims they used to bring down the Russian passenger plane over the Sinai Peninsula. The picture posted in an ISIS propaganda magazine shows what appears to be explosive material concealed in a soda can, along with wires and a detonator with an on and off switch. CNN cannot independently verify the authenticity of the photo. The article says ISIS, quote, discovered a way to compromise the security at the Sharm el-Sheikh International Airport. That doesn't sound too hard, particularly here in the United States, now that we know that 75 TSA officers are actually on a no-fly list.

25:12 Isn't that great? Where Metrojet departed and a quote bomb was smuggled onto the airplane. The news comes one day after Russia's president Vladimir Putin said nearly two pounds of explosive material blew the passenger plane out of the sky. Now, let me see if you're going to make fun of the way she says bomba bomba, you might as well take this and play this ISO early before I actually play the real clip. Oh, we're on the ISO tip. OK. Don't say so long-range bombers. I know you're putting it at the front. Okay. Got a long-range bombers Bombers hey man, but you making fun of French bombers bombers a long-range bombers, so let me see there's a to me of course

CHAPTER 08 / 46 Discussion

Christiane Amanpour, CNN, and the Military Solution Debate

Christiane Amanpour is criticized for her reporting on the refugee crisis and her advocacy for a military solution to ISIS. The discussion contrasts the Obama administration's stance that there is no military solution with the views of CNN's military analysts.

christiane amanpour· cnn· isis· military solution· josh earnest

25:59 I've learned throughout the years of doing this show that the distraction is trying to prove who did this, find out where they were staying. Was it false flag, crisis actors? No, I don't do any of that. It's unimportant at this point. What is important is what is happening and what is being done. And so I just spent, I spent I mean a lot of time just scouring through all, particularly CNN. They brought in everybody on this one, John. Just everybody. And Christiana Anampur, who returned to CNN, and I think we've discussed this before, you know, I think she sold out.

26:42 She's sold out. She'll do whatever is necessary, whatever her handlers tell her to say is what she comes up with. And sometimes she gets a little feisty when she's trying to communicate their message to the masses. And I have a couple of examples here. I like to hear that. Did you notice, by the way, and I say it again, that The, uh, all the news anchors, any of them given a chance all went to Paris immediately. Not only that, but everybody is trying to one up the other guys with their pronunciation of French things. So it becomes funny when you hear, I might have it somewhere. I'm thinking it was Jake Tapper's like the gendarmerie, the gendarmerie, the gendarmes, the gendarmes.

27:30 They're all, everybody, like it was, oh crap, don't send me to Paris, I don't want to go. It's so dangerous, they all shot to Paris. Every anchor, every news anchor, everyone but Amy Goodman. It's a bonanza, I tell you. Went to Paris. Wait, what? A bomb in Paris? Party! Call Pierre, I'm ready for my hairdo. Incredible. Here's Christiane Anandpour working on behalf of The EU. This is also has very ugly political ramifications. The whole refugee crisis now trying to link these attacks to at least one who posed as a refugee who came in. This is literally stoking the fires of the far right, anti-immigrant, anti-immigration, xenophobic parties here.

28:23 in Sweden, in Germany, across Europe right now. And there are elections in France and in other parts of Europe in the not too distant future. Uh-huh. That's right. And they're all... they're racist, they're xenophobes, they're horrible people, but it looks like the population is kind of on board with what they're saying. Like Marine Le Pen. who of course is now KKK I think. This is just nuts. Here's Anampour. So many ways of describing her, it's hilarious. Here is Anampour and she started to open up kind of and it triggered me to find some other clips as there is a clear rift between the White House, President Obama's administration, their strategy

29:10 and others. Let's just call them others because I don't want to say it's necessarily military, but it's others and I think I can show who the others are and what the problem is, but we've already dissected that the Obama administration really was caught off guard. They have no idea what's going on. They have no idea what to do. Look, they're making some progress some places, but then like a sort of pop-up mall sort of situation is popping up elsewhere. Yes, there have been some excesses successes because of the pop-up malls. I think she said Maybe she said mauls? She's talking about whack-a-mole. Oh, okay. I thought mauls. I'm like, yeah, mauls work. Ah, metastasize! There it is. We always love it when she says that. That's about the cancer that ISIS is. And...

30:09 Of course the question is, well if you can do it now, why didn't you do it earlier before this metastasized into this vile army? Great word. Great word! Now here's the real serious thing. Josh Earnest said there is no military solution to this. True, in the long term it has to be a political economic, cultural solution to this issue and a de-radicalization and destroying the ideology. However, most military analysts who I speak to, including former NATO officials, including CNN analysts, military analysts say... Yeah, that's CIA, CNN military analysts. Right now there needs to be a military solution. You have to eradicate ISIS. And that's not going to happen with some nice de-radicalization

CHAPTER 09 / 46 Discussion

Victoria Nuland, Robert Kagan, and State Department Strife

The hosts track the movements of State Department official Victoria Nuland, noting a correlation between her visits and regional strife, specifically in Montenegro. They discuss her marriage to Robert Kagan and their ties to the Project for the New American Century (PNAC).

victoria nuland· robert kagan· state department· montenegro· pnac

30:55 Okay, so this triggered a thought, sorry for starting off with okay, but this triggered a thought and I went back to see the president's speech from Ankara where he was hanging out for the G20 and he was asked a question about his strategy. And for a while now we're pretty sure that the State Department and probably Victoria Nuland specifically is leading some form of team I'm not sure who does the operational part for her, but she's leading some form of team wherever she goes. That would be that little operation, that small intelligence agency that the State Department runs. And I think they may be using CIA to do operational stuff, possibly. Possibly. Well, we don't know.

31:52 That's the most secretive of the agency, so you don't know what they're up to. We don't. Hold on a second. We don't know, but of course we always do ask the question. Victoria Kagan Noodleman. Yeah. Wherever she goes, strife breaks out and we just saw that she visited Montenegro as a part of her Balkan tour. Earlier this year by the way, and I said that It's so funny because and that's that's not oh my god. You're incurable I mean I watched the Montenegro thing yeah, and I just cracked up because we had just done the thing with Noodleman, and we just say I'm gonna be Maybe Adam maybe Adam won't see this. I'm not gonna gloat

32:39 I'm not gonna gloat, but all you have to do is follow her now she of course is married to Robert Kagan one of the ultimate neocons with Bill Kristol and Who else was in that? Wasn't Brennan in that group? Wolfowitz, all these guys that are warmongers. The Project for New American Century They're the ones that before 9-11 wrote in their PNAC document. You know what we really need is a new Pearl Harbor, you know Maybe if someone flew some planes into some buildings, things would change. Um, these are, I do not believe, friends of the Obama administration. I don't think they ever have been. He may have talked a little bit of a big game about them briefly, but we don't see much. We don't see- I think they're independent. What's interesting to me is that they're independent actors in some funny play that they're in, and somehow Kerry has gotten into the State Department to help them. Well, Kerry is dumb, and Kerry is a yali. So he's just taking orders, and he's very good at it.

CHAPTER 10 / 46 Discussion

President Obama's Ankara Speech and Think Tank Wars

President Obama's speech at the G20 summit in Ankara is analyzed as evidence of an internal "think tank war." The hosts interpret Obama's comments about "advisors" as a jab at neocon influences within the State Department and military-industrial complex.

barack obama· ankara· g20· joint chiefs of staff· john kerry

33:38 He'll do, he won't, he'll go with sleep for out weeks just to follow out whatever, whoever is giving the orders, which probably he's dumb enough that he's radicalized in his own way. You can radicalize people. That's clear. You can make Kerry do dumb things, but also he really thrives when he thinks that he's saving the world or whatever. And you know, I can speak French. So the president, so the president, and there were a lot of slip ups, there's lots of truth ones to come out, a lot of things that I caught and I'll have a couple other coming up. Is this the president in the Philippines? No, this is the president in Ankara. Okay. And I think it's entirely appropriate in a democracy to have a serious debate about these issues. Folks want to pop off and have opinions about

34:24 What they think we don't off. We don't say that's a porn term. He says pot. It's a derogatory term. It's a porn term. Pop shot. Now, pop off means to eat. Well, there's that. But I don't think that's what he's referring to. He's referring to people who are the people who should shut up. Because all they're doing is popping off and expressing opinions that are unwanted. He's mad. And let me add to John Kerry's skull and bones, which is the Bush-Yale club. Right. Little weenie boys all peeing on each other. I don't know what they do. It's crazy. Crazy. You hear a lot of that. Crazy. It's disgusting what they do. But President Obama don't do anything, which is probably what happened. President Obama knows that these guys have power. They have power through the State Department. They have power in the military industrial complex. And here's where he gives it away. And I think it's entirely appropriate in a democracy to have a serious debate about these issues.

35:27 Folks want to pop off and have opinions about what they think they would do, present a specific plan. If they think that somehow their advisors are better than the chairman of my Joint Chiefs of Staff and the folks who are actually on the ground, I want to meet them. He's talking about their advisors. This is a think tank war. It's a think tank war. When he's saying advisors, you know, to the untrained ear it sounds like he's saying, ah, the Republicans suck. But to the trained no agenda ear, he's talking about, he's angry that there are other strategies in play from other advisors, which I can only see as the Kagan noodle-mans. And the folks who are actually on the ground, I want to meet them and we can have that debate. But what I'm not interested in doing is posing

36:25 or pursuing some notion of American leadership or America winning or whatever other slogans they come up with. He clearly needs some marketing help. America winning? Is Charlie Sheen advising him? I don't understand. That has no relationship to what is actually going to work to protect the American people and to protect people in the region who are getting killed and to protect our allies and people like France. There you go. So it's the other advisors. There is a real advisor war going on, think tank wars. Now as kind of predicted, this would be, we talked about it on Sunday, we're just waiting for this to turn into an article five of NATO. France has made an interesting

CHAPTER 11 / 46 Discussion

Russia and France Coordinate Military Operations in Syria

Vladimir Putin orders the Russian Navy to treat the French naval battle group as allies in Syria. This coordination marks a significant shift in the conflict, as discussed during a Global Security Forum hosted by the CSIS featuring John Brennan and Henry Kissinger.

vladimir putin· syria· french navy· john brennan· csis

37:24 move. Yes, I have the best, I think the best rundown of it. Oh, this is about the EU article 42.7? Yeah. Okay, what you got? Well, I got a bunch of things because this to me was what interested me the most over the last couple of days. I agree. And just as if anybody doesn't know what happened, the Russians have actually eschewed NATO well this after Thursday show you and I just talking briefly doing the post-production and and we Something we probably should have discussed on the show, but it didn't come up. I said well What is Putin strategy gonna be what's he going to do and right? And I think I came out with a good one we felt that he had been cornered and and and and

38:07 Flummoxed he couldn't stand up and say I know because anything he was he was put in a corner and the first thing he did is he says you know what it was I you're right it was Isis who brought down that jet it was Isis so he just You know, he still irks the Egyptians because they claim there's no proof. Well, but this is about Putin's. And what did he put out? A $50 million bounty or something on the head of anyone? Yeah, I don't know about the bounty, but the longest, I've got a bunch of reports that discuss this, but let's talk about this. Let's run this one that's a little bit on the long side, but it's interesting. This because it's a gloating report from RT.

38:49 And I think they do the best job of telling what happened. This is the clip called The Real. Is that a show, The Real? Yeah. We have reports. Vladimir Putin has vowed to find and to punish the terrorists, the Islamic State militants that were behind the bombing of that Russian passenger jet in Egypt. Hours after he made that promise, the Russian Air Force has revealed a dramatic escalation of its air operations in Syria, in scope, in size and even in cooperation.

39:26 Yeah, you know, without even seeing it, I know which video this is. Everybody had the same B-roll of the supersonic jet. Is that what was playing? That supersonic bomber. Yeah, the bomber. Everybody had the same video. It's like a press release went out and said, hey, Look at we're putting a roll. This is pretty exciting was it that that and they're dropping the bomb that bomber by the way is gorgeous And is that the su-35 no I didn't know 35. I think this is a fighter, but they're also yeah the fighter They're also coming out with the su-35 which competes with the f-35 they were showing some pretty impressive hardware that bomber And then they had that crazy, but like I think I know it was a bear bomber What would that with the propellers that go in opposite directions, and it drops just tons of bombs? and

40:09 But, you know, I still think Trump is right. Let the Russians blow their wad on it. Yeah, they seem to have the right hardware for sure. Yeah, that bomber's got to see what that bomber is. Well, I have my military commercials coming up, so let's continue with that. Vladimir Putin has revealed that a French naval battle group led by an aircraft carrier is coming to Syria's coast. It will be stationed next to a Russian naval battle group already there. And Vladimir Putin ordered officers abroad those ships to welcome the French as allies. We also know that the Russian president and French leader have talked on the phone about

40:54 coordinating their respective air operations over Syria. The Russian Air Force has also increased its air strikes. We know that they have ordered 25 strategic bombers to join air strikes against the Islamic State. They're also talking about increasing the tempo of Russian air strikes in Syria. We know those strategic bombers are flying out of southern Russia into Syria carrying out air strikes there. In parallel with the Russian jets already stationed there at Khmeimim airbase. Is this guy on a jet? The sweetening of this package is outrageous. Perhaps we'll see more aircraft brought into Syria stationed there. I spent six weeks at the airbase. There's plenty of room, though it's really very busy. Alternatively, we might see the Syrian government ask to provide another airbase for Russian jets.

41:50 The importance of cooperation between Russia and the US in the fight against ISIS was stressed during the Global Security Forum 2015 hosted by the CSIS in Washington. Among the speakers were Director of the Central Intelligence Agency John Brennan and former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger. While Washington and Moscow have significant policy differences on how best to bring the bloodshed in Syria to a close, I have had several conversations with one of my Russian counterparts over the past several weeks about ways to strengthen U.S.-Russian counterterrorism cooperation, specifically on the ISIL threat.

42:28 I think Putin was so smart. You know what, I'm just going to make my own little group here and if you don't want to join then look, the French are all in. And the French get to park that big carry, that thing's huge by the way. But with the French, for them to- Right at the port there in Syria, we can't do that. But the fact that the French are going, okay, shows that they're not our ally. They're not our ally. They're not our oldest ally. No, no. If you look at it strictly from the optics of it, no. I have a little commercial with the data about Russia's forces that are coming down. What Russia's done is pledged to ramp up anti-terror attacks since the plane crash in Egypt.

CHAPTER 12 / 46 Discussion

Russian Strategic Bombers and the White Swan Jet

The Russian Air Force deploys the Tu-160 strategic bomber, known as the "White Swan," for strikes in Syria. The hosts discuss the technical capabilities of this supersonic aircraft and its role in Russia's nuclear triad.

tu-160· white swan· supersonic bomber· su-35· russian air force

41:50 The importance of cooperation between Russia and the US in the fight against ISIS was stressed during the Global Security Forum 2015 hosted by the CSIS in Washington. Among the speakers were Director of the Central Intelligence Agency John Brennan and former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger. While Washington and Moscow have significant policy differences on how best to bring the bloodshed in Syria to a close, I have had several conversations with one of my Russian counterparts over the past several weeks about ways to strengthen U.S.-Russian counterterrorism cooperation, specifically on the ISIL threat.

42:28 I think Putin was so smart. You know what, I'm just going to make my own little group here and if you don't want to join then look, the French are all in. And the French get to park that big carry, that thing's huge by the way. But with the French, for them to- Right at the port there in Syria, we can't do that. But the fact that the French are going, okay, shows that they're not our ally. They're not our ally. They're not our oldest ally. No, no. If you look at it strictly from the optics of it, no. I have a little commercial with the data about Russia's forces that are coming down. What Russia's done is pledged to ramp up anti-terror attacks since the plane crash in Egypt.

43:13 was confirmed to have been caught by a terrorist bomb. Let's have a look at what Russia has already done. It carried out 127 sorties yesterday alone with 206 targets hit. By comparison, on Tuesday the US-led coalition performed 20 missions with 14 targets hit. That racks up as 4,100 strikes in 48 days by Moscow, as you can see many times more than the US and France combined. And it's set to intensify as well further with some real heavy duty hardware. There's the commercial. It's all listed out yesterday, yeah? Yeah. It's not just about quantity. In this conflict, this is the first time Russia has used strategic bombers, including the 2160, aka the White Swan.

43:58 I love that, the white swan. Back it up, I want to write that one down. Look it up. The white swan. Yeah, that's the beautiful one. The one they haven't, I know they haven't brought out, I think it's called the J-20, which is the stealth bomber, which is also cool looking, but I don't think they want to sell that one, so they're not showing it off. You know, the Russians are selling a whole boatload of the SU-35s to China. Whenever there's war like this, or we can say it's war, it's great for sales. First time Russia has used strategic bombers, including the 2160, aka the White Swan. The 2160, aka the White Swan, bringing you death.

44:36 world's largest military fighter and the largest supersonic aircraft. It's a key part of Russia's nuclear triad, though it is not using its nuclear potential in this battle. Another advantage of strategic bombers is its range. It flies straight from a base in the North Caucasus to carry out attacks on terror positions in the provinces of Raqqa, Idlib and Aleppo. And interestingly, These supersonic bomber jets have done something that we appear to have been incapable of for obvious reasons. With oil revenue reckoned to provide the militants with more than a million dollars a day, Russian bombers have targeted tankers and refinery facilities controlled by the extremists in Syria. This after the US-led coalition stepped up its bombing of ISIL's main oil

CHAPTER 13 / 46 Discussion

US and Russia Target ISIS Oil Tanker Convoys

Following a G20 presentation by Russia showing massive oil tanker convoys, the US begins bombing ISIS-controlled fuel trucks. The hosts question why the US-led coalition waited so long to target the group's primary revenue source.

isis oil· g20· oil tankers· syria· financial times

45:21 producing region. You can see hundreds of fuel tankers in columns. Russian military spokesman Andrey Katapolov told a briefing at the Defense Ministry. In recent days, the Air Force has destroyed 500 vehicles. This has significantly hampered the militants' ability to export fuel and hid their profits from oil smuggling. I would say Europe, be on the lookout for your petrol prices to rise. That's your oil. Now that you're buying here is the I have a better report that kind of tops that which is I've got it right finally figure out how to pronounce her name. Oh, Holly Golana? Guy-Ann Chichikin. Or you can call her Cha-Cha as far as I'm concerned. Who is this? That's the Russian reporter that's always at the State Department. Oh, the hot one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the hot one. And it's Guy-Ann Chichikin. Guy-Ann Chichikin. I'll never forget that name. She did a thing. What happened was

46:19 No, the festival party I a girl or no, I have too many clips. No, not you don't yeah Tell me looking to find this or bomb threats anonymous reported been and Judy bombing bomb But the clip is bombing oil trucks. Here's what here's the way she reports this one of these incidents Apparently there's a big meeting of the g20. Mm-hmm. Apparently. Yeah, apparently. Yeah, I followed it They and the Russians I guess to embarrass us and said look I Here's what we gotta do, we gotta stop the financing, we gotta stop their money flow. And then they put up a slide that had showed this caravan of 100 trucks. These trucks are just going crazy, they're just driving all the time and nobody's doing anything about it. Ah, but wait for it, did you know that the State Department

47:12 It was the White House announced that they had warned the drivers of the oil trucks that they were going to be bombed Yes, this was I'm not I've never seen this confirmed anywhere. This is all the right-wing talk show hosts bitching about this Oh really? Okay, they're saying oh and before they bomb them. They drop a leaflet saying we're gonna bomb them Yes, but here's the way she reported it because the day after this was presented at the g20 we bombed them and Excellent. The G20 summit, the Russian president showed world leaders aerial images of what he said was a convoy of ISIL trucks full of oil and petroleum products stretching dozens of kilometers. On the same day, U.S. officials told the New York Times that for the first time, the U.S. attacked hundreds of trucks that ISIL had been using to smuggle the crude oil it produces in Syria. This could be the same trucks. We don't know.

48:05 But U.S. officials told the New York Times that they've hit them for the first time. I went to the State Department to ask this. Why for the first time? Why hasn't the U.S. hit them before? Again, that's an operational detail that I would just refer you to the... Is that Kirby? No, it's a worse douchebag than Kirby. I know that douchebag. Department of Defense. Aside from hitting the trucks, which you cannot confirm, what has the U.S. done to date to curb ISIL financing funding? Well, again, it's a particular line of effort for the anti-ISIL coalition is how to cut off financing for ISIL. One of those is

48:45 Again, going after their infrastructure and we have been hitting. I don't have numbers of airstrikes and statistics in front of me to give you that. Has the US sanctioned any banks, any Iraqi banks suspected of carrying out transactions for ISIL? Any Iraqi banks? Iraqi banks. Any banks? Or any banks. I'd have to look into that. I don't know the answer. So I received no answer to the question why the US began to bomb ISIL's oil trucks only now. What stopped the US from doing that before? ISIL has been engaged in this illegal oil trade for a while now. Hey man, do not mess with the product. Last month, the Financial Times looked into ISIL's oil trade and wrote this.

49:25 The importance of ISIL oil to those living in rebel-held areas of Syria is one reason why the US-led coalition has been reluctant to target the group's trade routes. The coalition says it is wary of alienating local populations by bombing fuel now critical for their daily lives. Now, how does that tie into Article 42.7?

CHAPTER 14 / 46 Discussion

EU Article 42.7 and Dianne Feinstein on ISIS Expansion

France invokes Article 42.7 of the EU treaty for mutual defense, a move that bypasses NATO. Senator Dianne Feinstein expresses concern over ISIS's expansion and their use of sophisticated communication apps to coordinate operations.

article 42.7· european union· dianne feinstein· nato· isis apps

50:14 Well, that one doesn't, obviously. None of it does, except that Olan, before he teamed up with the Russians, called on Article 42.7. I do have one clip. Wait, hold on. He did two things. First, he invoked something in the French Constitution Which allows him to extend a state of emergency past 12 days. Right. And that was seen and if you, of course I'd... I'm not good at parsing French. If you look at the translations, it's kind of a murky thing. It's kind of like a poison pill, you know, just kind of hidden away there and stuck in there. Well, you know, but we ever need to then and he gets all kinds of extra powers and I don't see the French protesting that of course. So the United States wouldn't protest it either. I'm just as stupid as every other slave.

51:07 Let me see, the article invoking Article 42.7, a never used clause of the EU treaty triggers mutual defense among the 28 member states. The Netherlands is looking for the bullet as we speak. Paris admitted it was struggling to cope with its foreign military commitments while beefing up security and so they asked the rest of Europe to come to its assistance. And this Article 42.7 stipulates, quote, If a member state is the victim of armed aggression on its territory, the other member states shall have towards it an obligation of aid and assistance by all the means in their power in accordance with Article 51 of the United Nations Charter. And so this flows in a tricky legal way, it flows down to Article 5, which is attack against one is an attack against all. And I believe this is going to happen.

51:56 And you can make that up from Dianne Feinstein, a fine Democrat, who is pushing a little bit against the president. I've never been more concerned. I read the intelligence faithfully. ISIL is not contained. ISIL is expanding. They've just put out a video saying it is their intent to attack this country and I think we have to be prepared. I think hopefully France will go for a chapter 5 which will bring NATO into it. Hopefully we will work with our allies to put together the kind of coalition

52:35 coalitions and attack plans in more than one place at a given time. There's only one way we're going to diminish them, and that is by taking them out. Take them out! Because they are growing. They are in more than a dozen countries now. They are sophisticated. They have apps to communicate on. Apps! Oh my God, John, they have apps! the operations and operational planning. So we should take this very, very seriously. And her head is gone. Bomb them, bomb them, and bomb them again. This is what didn't happen. In fact, I'm going to play something from Monday when they had on the news hour. Do you mind if I insert 33 seconds of flub?

CHAPTER 15 / 46 Discussion

Putin's Strategy to Divide NATO and European Allies

A military analyst on PBS discusses Vladimir Putin's efforts to drive a wedge between the US and its European allies. The strategy involves breaking the Western alliance's focus on removing Bashar al-Assad from power in Syria.

vladimir putin· nato· turkey· saudi arabia· ukraine

53:34 The Feinstein Flub? Yeah, Feinstein Flub. Oh yeah, please. They are on a march and it's important to recognize this and prepare to deal with it with action. And candidly, I don't think bombing runs alone, we've done about 8,000 now, can really make a difference. So we're going to have to look at some new teams, new themes. Ooh, did she say teams instead of themes? Ooh, We're going to have to look at some new teams new themes they got teams ready John something's going down and she knows she's right She knows she knows so early, but they're they're getting screwed by I think Putin's still out playing them And let's play what we heard on the news our PBS. This is the clip called Defense Department DIA This is a supposed retired DIA woman. I don't have her name right now, but she's a she has the she looks like one of those you know women female

54:29 Spy type she's probably in the di oh, so she's hot she hot she's got that weird hot spy look spooky look But it's not she I don't know how hot you see oh you're too distracted by her five-foot alien eyeballs You're huge. Oh, we need to find out who this is bigger than anybody's eyeballs I've ever seen she is she tall is she blonde is she a tall blonde do you think she's a redhead? Oh, so no soul. She's a gray. Oh So let's listen to what she says and this was on I believe on Monday on the news are before all this Russia stuff really came down and Government to create a united front to find to fight Isis there might be movement there I think what Russia would like is to move the US and European positions closer to themselves and and break them off from

55:19 Turkey and Saudi Arabia, which are still, if you want to call it, are holding to the line that, you know, this is about Assad. Assad must go before we do anything else. But at what price? This is not the only disagreement that the U.S. and Russia have. Well, that's what I was going to say. I think he's also trying to very cleverly create a divide between us and our European allies. And that gets to the whole context that's not even being addressed here, which is what's happening in Europe and Ukraine, Russia relations, et cetera. So I think that he's very cleverly, you know, he used the word, treat them as allies to his military folks when he was instructing them about engaging with the French Navy. Treat them as allies. Well, the French actually have allies. They have, they're part of a 28-member alliance called NATO. They're part of the EU. Russia's not their ally. I think that's a little bit of an exuberant sort of exaggeration to call the French the Russian allies.

CHAPTER 16 / 46 Discussion

France Bypasses NATO for Russian Alliance

Deutsche Welle reports on France's decision to coordinate directly with Russia rather than through NATO. This "clever move" allows France to maintain military cooperation without endangering multilateral peace talks in Vienna.

nato· france· russia· vienna talks· moskva cruiser

56:10 So, here we have...this is what we're thinking in Washington. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I think Putin's out playing him. Now, I want to play two clips from the Deutsche Welle show. One is the report about...the intro to France and Russia Join Forces, a short clip. And then, as it goes on and on and on, then I want to follow that up with... Deutsche Welle asks, why not NATO? Okay. Well, France is continuing to move swiftly against IS, both at home and abroad. President Francois Hollande held talks on joint military cooperation with Russia in Syria. And Russian President Vladimir Putin has confirmed that the missile cruiser Moskva will start joint operations with the French carrier task force, quote, as allies.

56:59 France will also be getting military backing from its EU allies. We'll have more live from Brussels after this report. Okay. All right, then they had a report on some, you know, chasing these guys around. And so then they came up, the direct question was asked to one of their correspondents or one of those knowledge-based guys, consultant, I'm not sure, but he or he is talking about why not NATO? Because that woman was talking about NATO, we were expecting NATO. I think the French saw this coming and they said, wait, these NATO guys have screwed up everything. They've screwed up Libya. It's the NATO guys who did the attack in Paris. Yeah, NATO guys, we don't want them. No, they suck. Why isn't France turning to NATO on this? I think that is quite a clever move on the French part. They already know that when it comes to the US, the US is already a very close ally, so they don't need NATO for that.

57:50 And leaving NATO out of the equation has two advantages. They can avoid to potentially endanger multilateral peace talks, which are currently ongoing, to find a political solution to the Syrian conflict in Vienna with countries such as Iran and Russia on the negotiating table. And, of course, if we now look at the close military cooperation with Russia, NATO, involving NATO, could also create a problem and could potentially endanger that new French-Russian alliance. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Just that simple. The French, man, they're turning on us. They're turncoats. NATO, you're out. No, they're turning on NATO. I say we're back to freedom fries.

CHAPTER 17 / 46 Discussion

EU Firearm Ban Proposal and the F-35 Turkey

The EU proposes a new firearm ban targeting Kalashnikov-style rifles following the Paris attacks. The hosts contrast the successful deployment of Russian hardware with the perceived failure of the American F-35 fighter jet.

firearm ban· kalashnikov· f-35· white swan· european union

58:33 Well, I don't think no, I don't think we can play it that way. No, we can but we should. I think it's too late because we've already gotten, they've gotten the sympathy vote from the bombing and none of the people, the public at large, and I don't think the newscasters realize what a fine play this was in the first place. They're probably, and you know, and I think after all these years of conflict in Syria that have gotten nowhere and then the formation of this, these band of idiots by us possibly and with lots of evidence to support that, has been uh... is sick in the public and i don't care and other and trump going out there and yelling about the russian should take over this fight anyway we don't need to be in charge of everything there's something else interesting the e u uh... uh... has

59:16 gone full force and published a firearm ban proposal. Remember, we have the Russians now showing their hot new, what was it called? The White Cloud? The White... The White Swan. The White Swan. Here's the cutie. By the way, I got his picture. It is. The White Swan. And then they're trying to put legislation into effect that would outright ban the sale of Kalashnikovs. So there's some F-Russia in this as well. And that's why they keep saying Kalashnikov, Kalashnikov, Kalashnikov. And most Kalashnikovs built or that are flown around are 74s, they're not 47s. I thought it was an arcane gun. But it... I have a musket. That's my point though. It's a great opportunity to discredit other people's weaponry and a great opportunity to tout new weaponry, which we have not done. We don't have anything.

1:00:15 No, because we got stuck in that stupid F-35. That thing's a piece of crap and everybody knows it. Flying turkey. Flying turkey. Not the flying swan. White swan. The white swan versus the turkey. You can just see the cartoon white swan to the rescue Like Chitty Chitty Bang Bang are 35 is Hobbling through the air I do want to follow up with why maybe just a few Quick quickies before we thank people some press responses and stuff and some interesting little things that popped out

CHAPTER 18 / 46 Discussion

Chris Christie and 2009 Homeland Attack Predictions

Governor Chris Christie criticizes President Obama for reducing NSA and CIA capabilities. The hosts revisit a 2009 clip where intelligence officials predicted a high likelihood of a domestic attack within six months that never materialized.

chris christie· nsa· cia· janet napolitano· leon panetta

1:00:57 You may... I... Yes. Well, you can say no if you want to do it after, but... Well, I don't care actually. Okay. Then let us start first... Well, of course, the president is under attack. Chris Christie. His strategy seems to be to piss all over the president. That guy... Chris Christie. Man, that guy's a warmonger. Oh, he's second only to Carly. Yeah. And Carly is outrageous. He's printing up yellow stars. They want to get us all killed, these people. He's printing up yellow stars in his basement as we speak. This guy is not okay. He lives in a fantasy world, Martha. He sees the world as he wishes it were, rather than the way it is. This is the same guy who Thursday said, you know, that ISIS was contained. And then Friday we had the attacks in Paris. We've also had attacks in Lebanon.

1:01:50 ISIS is not contained. ISIS is not a regional threat. ISIS is now a global threat. And we need to do things like not do what the president did in members of Congress to take away intelligence capability. Part of what happened in Paris is an intelligence failure that these folks were plotting and planning obviously for some time in a very intricate plan and we didn't pick it up. No one picked it up. And this is the president who took tools away from the NSA. Tools. Has taken tools away from the CIA. Bring him back! The CIA director said yesterday that that ISIS has grown exponentially since Barack Obama's been president. Alright, so he... I'm not a mathematician. Let's go listen to John Brennan, director of CIA. Should we regard this type of attack as a one-off event or do we have to contemplate the terrible possibility that this could indeed be a new normal?

1:02:39 I certainly would not consider it a one-off event. But I do think it's inevitable that ISIL and other terrorist groups are going to continue to try and to attempt to carry out these attacks. That is an inevitability for at least as long as far as the eye can see. But to me, it's not inevitable that they're going to succeed. That is inevitable as far as the eye can see? I like those mixed metaphors. It's confusing and I think purposely so. On Fox, By the way, after you were playing that clip, although we don't have it handy, I'm going to dig this clip up, which is the one where when Feinstein was the head of the spy committee in the Senate and she asked all these top shots, this was like what, five years ago, six years ago, will there be an attack on the homeland within the next six months?

1:03:27 And every single one of the experts, Joint Chiefs of Staff, the head of the CIA, everybody. Yeah, oh yeah, sure, there will be. Yes, absolutely, absolutely. Now we've played this clip several times and I think it's because of the naming of it that we have problems finding it again. Hmm it should be named Feinstein something if it probably misspelled Feinstein Right give me one of those spell things that help you know cuz I just so maybe I just do fine Let me see if I do fine. I'm looking would it be in How far back five years you say?

1:04:07 It's getting pretty old. I'm guessing five years. It's one of our oldest clips. Maybe it's this, let me see. What is the likelihood of another terrorist attempted attack? And this is from, I'll tell you, it's from 2009. Okay, so it's five years. Yeah on the US homeland in the next three to six months high or low Director Blair an attempted attack. The priority is certain I would say mr. Panetta. I would agree with that. Mr. Muller agree general Burgess. Yes, ma'am. I agree. Mr. Dinger And oh no didn't happen six years later. We're still waiting. We're still waiting for the three months Elizabeth Hassel

CHAPTER 19 / 46 Discussion

Josh Earnest and Elizabeth Hasselbeck on National Security

White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest has a tense exchange with Elizabeth Hasselbeck regarding the administration's use of the word "setback" to describe ISIS activities. The hosts critique Earnest's demeanor and the president's reference to the Boston Marathon bombing.

josh earnest· elizabeth hasselbeck· fox news· charlie hebdo· barack obama

1:04:54 Beck hustleback hasselback from Fox. She's a football wife. Yeah I liked what she did and she got Jay Carney and not Jay Carney of the other douche Josh earnest Who was looking ragged five o'clock shadow droopy eyes like the guy hadn't seen his bed in 36 hours And he's right cuz he hasn't and he pretty much lost it. He just lost it which shows you how clueless the administration is Following this initial attack in Paris where 129 people

1:05:30 were brutally killed. The President of the United States referred to this as something that was a, quote, setback. Secretary John Kerry then, in trying to draw a line of comparison between the Charlie Hebdo attacks and these recent Paris attacks, said that those attacks at Charlie Hebdo were, quote, understandable. Do you understand at this point how the, how the verbiage needs to change a bit because you know what she's talking about here? I was all over the news. I'm sure you saw it. Yes. There's a played carry the day before the attacks. And then the day after the tax, they say, well, you know, Charlie Hebdo, you know, was it was, they had a

1:06:07 It was okay for that. It was a good reason for Charlie Hebdo to attack. Good reason, good reason. It was cartoons, a good reason. Makes sense, that attack makes sense. I'm calling John Kerry out on being responsible for that one now because he's all in. What a horrible man. Everyone in this world right now sees them as aloof, apathetic, and quite cavalier about these lives being lost at the hand of ISIS. Would you go back and ask for that language to be changed at this point, to reflect some sort of solidarity and intentional aggression. Now this of course is completely unnecessary, but I like that she's poking him with this. Against ISIS? I mean to call this... She's gonna be banned. Oh, whoa, wait for it. ...understandable as it relates to Charlie Hebdo. To call this just a setback seems awful, at least to the American people.

1:06:53 Well, Elizabeth, I think what I'd ask the American people to do is to go look at the transcript of the president's remarks where he described the situation as saying... And I think he's on coke. Hold on, let's roll that back. Holy crap. He hasn't slept and he's on coke. He hasn't slept, that would be... or probably Adderall. I think you're right. I think it's an Adderall rage.

1:07:38 I would love for you to answer it, but I... I will answer the question by telling you that you should consider... Go ahead. Elizabeth, if you want to have me on the show to talk about something serious as our national security, you can ask me a question and I will answer it. I will answer it. Now stop doing that! It's not fair! It's my turn to talk. Don't hurt my feelings. Josh, we've played fair before. When the president is in court... I'm letting you know that our president's words matter not just to me, not just to the American people, but to those around the globe. Stop. Yeah. This wasn't a white... Whoa. Hello, yeah, I lost for a second. This wasn't what this wasn't a White House press briefing. This was a TV show Yeah, this is a TV show and he was on the White House lawn Okay, so they just brought him and he thought it was gonna be a no-brainer I don't know if he thought that but he does not was this that she's on I don't know Fox right it's the where she yeah, she sits in the middle with her legs show I thought that was somebody else, but okay, Elizabeth. He says Elizabeth. Okay. Yeah, you're right

1:08:37 No, I was out of context. He only does this when something is bad because he likes his his His podium, you know, that's where his power is He has no power and he looked like crap to me not just to the American people But to those around the globe who are very concerned right now our president's words matter. He called this a setback Meanwhile the president And I'm sure this wasn't a flub and an accident. He didn't mean to say this, but it makes him look so dumb possibility of terrorist attacks on our soil there was the Boston Marathon bombers obviously it did not result in the scale of death that we saw in Paris, but That was a serious attempt

CHAPTER 20 / 46 Discussion

TATP Explosives and the Cry Bully Meme

The hosts discuss TATP, an explosive nicknamed "Mother of Satan," used in suicide vests. They also investigate reports that Facebook is deleting posts containing the term "cry bully," a word used to describe people who use victimhood to bully others.

tatp· mother of satan· cry bully· facebook· censorship

1:09:33 At killing a lot of people by two brothers and a crockpot Good one Where'd you get that from the 80 meter band? What it is that is dumb from a crockpot. It's very funny from a crockpot, okay, okay? I think that's enough. I know we have one one last meme we have I keep forgetting it the white widow the white Angel? The White Swan. The White Swan. Yes, the White Swan and... Suicide vests were loaded with triacetone triperoxide or TATP. It's a homemade explosive with a sinister nickname. Mother of Satan. Done! Who came up with that?

1:10:26 The mother of Satan, mother of Satan in the white swan. A name coined by terrorists because it's sensitive to heat, volatile, and can potentially cause extreme damage. Experts say it's also cheap with ingredients that are easy to combine. Oh man, we're back to the acetone. Here we go again. Yeah, yeah, it's just nuts. Well, I think with that for the time being I can thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C with a C stands for content trigger warnings Dvorak and in the morning to you Adam curry in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground subs in the water and all the dames and Knights out there in the morning everybody in the chat room no agenda stream calm in the morning to Nick the rat Thank you Nick for giving us the artwork for episode 774 morally deformed and

1:11:13 This was nice. This was the the cry bullies with a little playpen with a safe space and And I heard that Facebook has been deleting people's Posts or imagery that includes the word cry bully what yeah, I can't prove it I'm just this is what I've seen on the no agenda group on there on Facebook the cry bully is being deleted and Didn't we just or somebody in the producer us or somebody just make that up like a week ago? Yeah, I've been going around I I don't know it must have been going around well. Let's take a look. Let's do a little search Cry bully maybe but why would it how's that offensive in any way? Well you're hurting their feelings and hurt their feelings. That's not good. No. I mean cry bully Well, why don't we?

1:12:09 Why don't we thank some people? Videos of cry bully. Are we too quick? Oh, no, here's why. It refers to calling someone a bully. Oh, so that's, yeah, that's against the... You're not a cry bully in the sense that you're... Oh, you're crying because you're bullied? You're crying, it's like... Here's one of the titles from CNN.com, are we too quick to Cry bully oh So it's automatic parsing probably yes Okay, that would make sense got it so I can see him pulling it. Yeah, okay. We do have some people to thank for show seven seven five Starting with sir Shannon G. Yario Jari, oh yario and Perth who came in with $1,000 and nine cents Hello, I say

CHAPTER 21 / 46 Discussion

No Agenda Producer Donations and Peerage Upgrades

The hosts acknowledge high-value donations from producers, including a $1,000 contribution from Sir Shannon G. Yario. They discuss the peerage system, upcoming show 777, and briefly mention new Hillary Clinton emails suggesting she is "often confused."

peerage· knighthood· donations· value for value· hillary clinton emails

1:13:06 He says sir Shannon yario chiming in with my yearly anti boner donation excellent Please keep up the amazing work you do until they outlaw you guys And I, which could happen. And also I humbly request a Gitmo Nation National Anthem. You can put, we'll put that at the end. Yeah, sure. With some general good luck, karma for all of us. Thank, love you guys. Sir Shannon Yarrow, Anthem Loving Knight from the Perth, Western Australia region. P.S. The nine pennies are so you don't have to use your own. Okay, it's like give a penny, take a penny. Yeah, he's giving nine, so we got nine, uh, nine, seventy pennies.

1:13:43 You've got karma outstanding sir Shannon Jarreau. Thank you. Thank you very much. It was a great donation Next is with no note, and I asked him for a note. He's in Wurzburg Deutschland And this is sir Adam the Baron of Poland ah also Adam color called Kala Lusky yeah, and I believe he's got Let me make sure. Is there a note on here on this spreadsheet? Doesn't come up on mine. What are you looking for? His note. I don't see a note. Right. I sent him a note to email asking if he wants to say anything. Last time he didn't really want to say anything either.

1:14:24 He's probably just happy with the reporting that we're doing on the migrant crisis in Europe. Yeah. Yeah. And I have a clip coming up about Poland and the migrants. Anyway, he's in with 777. He'll be a double producer. He'll also be a producer on Show 777. And why don't we give him a karma? Because with that kind of donation, you deserve it. You've got karma. Thank you. Danke, danke, danke. Sir Donald de Grazia. Danke, danke, danke. Sir Donald DeGrazia in Bloomfield, Michigan, 777. We got a second one. That's good. He says, let me click on this, 777 will only come once. You can't miss it. 777 is a mole of karma or a mall of karma. Dvorak should get that. I think he means mole chemical, mole. It's a measurement.

1:15:15 Side note, sounds like Dvorak is liking Trump more than Adam lately. I'm liking his quotes. Yeah. Oh, this is, I think this is our doctor. Yeah, isn't this our doctor? I don't know if he's our doctor. He's our surgeon. No, he's a... I think, isn't he our brain scientist? He's the knight of darkness in Detroit. Oh, okay. Gotcha. I mean, he's not black. He says smiley face means you could be and I think we called him out as black Oh Mo. Hey, man, you're black. What are you doing donating? mohos and Maryland MD 2020

1:15:53 Oh, oh, oh. I don't know. Hello for drinking references. So much for your ghetto speak, John. Hose of MD 2020. I'm not trying to. It's been on our night list. Trying to be something I'm not at. It's been on our night list for years up there with crickets and cream. Sir David Julian in Morgan Hill, California. Five hundred dollars, which is a good amount. If you thought to yourself, wow, they nailed it with that analysis, which was our last show. You owe it to this show to continue to keep it alive. Please donate to the No Agenda Show. Nobody wants to hear Adams resorting to eating ramen and Elpo in the streamline of consciousness. And if they're off base, send in 50 bucks with a comment, set them on the right path. Now, this is a producer understands. Kisses Sir Julian. Thank you. Kisses back Sir Julian. Thank you. Yes, he... let me grab these notes. Sir Julian gets it.

1:16:50 He does. You should all pay attention to what he has to say. Christopher Dolan in Brookline, Massachusetts comes in with 330 and if my cursor would show up I could scroll over to what I'm looking for. Where are you cursor? You hit the control key, it's supposed to show up in the... well that's funny, it doesn't. Well, you know it is last show's coverage on the Paris attacks and Democrat debates was outstanding. Thank you. Yes Keep up. Yes Keep up the good work and thank you for the best podcast in the universe and that it was worth three hundred thirty three dollars And we appreciate that Amanda Rossett in Rockville Connecticut two hundred one dollars and one cent and she sent in a card with a check and the card is

1:17:42 Got a bunch of crazy... The card thing is Ativan, Turkey, Vicodin, Gravy, Valium, Mashed Potatoes, Oxycodone, Corn, Wellbutrin, Well Rolls, Paxil, Stuffed, Vodka, Cram, anyway it's just some drug references and alcohol references all over the front and turkey references. Can you believe this freaking card she writes? If the current trend in holiday cards isn't a sign of our need to support the best podcast in the universe, I don't know what is. That's funny. I would love to hear the 3x3 jingle before I receive my helping of karma. And she draws a heart and says Amanda. Thanksgiving is all about survival. That was the punchline. And we'll give her a karma as well? The 3x3 jingle? Yeah, she wants that good karma.

1:18:32 Experiment by JCD. Comparing stories from ABC, CBS and NBC. The never-ending three by three. You've got karma. Outstanding. And then last on the list, last but not least is CFR 50 Appendix B. Yeah, we know where that is that's a quality assurance criteria for nuclear power plants and fuel reprocessing plants Yeah, Stu is his name? Itm gents I figured this would be a good time to take another step towards the seat at the roundtable that is a little closer to the fire In other words he wants to upgrade okay, but in me what title is next in line after night. That's baronet to Baronet Yeah, you can go to the work org slash peerage yes

1:19:24 The short sale house buying karma I requested in my last donation letter had an unexpected impact. Uh oh. Instead of the bank finally coming to a decision about my offer, I got the fed up and started looking for a different property. I am now expecting to close escrow on a nice house with 16 acres west of Salem, Oregon before Christmas. Looks like I will need to add hay farmer to my LinkedIn profile. How about RV park? Yes, put a few pads up you guys made some pads. You know a blinking light. Yeah About the burnout a red red The old neon get it from another park

1:20:14 Also, the no agenda map will need to be updated for 2016. I've been wondering about the poll results being reported about the Donald and others for that matter. Why don't the poll results include independents as well? I suspect the pool of voters registered as independents is of similar size as the Democrats or Republicans. I suspect it's due to the fact that many primaries only allow for those registered. That's not necessarily true. When you go to the poll, if you're registered or independent, sometimes you can vote in Democrat or Republican primaries. California allows you to vote in the Democrat primary but not the Republican. How about the following jingles? Hillary Cackle, what difference does it make?

1:20:56 to the head and then maybe reopen the Vince Foster investigation karma what is it what is it what a Cackle what difference does it make? To the head to the head and then what was the last one and well the last one refers to type of karma Which was reopened the best? Oh, okay? Oh? Yeah, I really really dislike that bitch oops hurtful speech my bad by the way my badge should be on this list yes, it's What difference at this point does it make? You've got karma. Before you move on, this just came in this morning. There are 35 new pages of emails, which I love that mixing of metaphors there as well. Pages of emails from Hillary Clinton. And there's an exchange between Monica Harley and Uma Abedin. Uma. We all know the Uma.

1:21:55 And here it is. Huma, this is Hillary's lover as far as we know. Huma says, have you been going over calls with her for tomorrow? She knows Singh is at 8, Singh, S-I-N-G-H. And then Monica Harley says, she was in bed for a nap by the time I heard that she had an 8 a.m. call. We'll go over with her. And then Huma replies, very important to do that. She's often confused. That is not good you expect Did you hear about the... Well, before we go that far, let me just remind people that we do have another show coming up on Sunday. We're going to go to Dvorak.org and help us out to continue our kind of finish off the year with some nice donations from some fantastic people. Yes. And I also have a PR mention, brand new, the No Agenda jingle app just been released on the

1:22:57 iOS app store only link in the show notes under PR and Portion of the proceeds will go to support the best podcasting universe. It's pretty good That's the one that had jingles on it. I hadn't even heard before so I don't know how they do that, but Magic it's pretty good So these credits of course are our executive producers and our associate executive producers just like in Hollywood we credit them up front as soon as possible in the program because they really do make it happen and we'll be thanking our donors $50 and over in the thank you segment but I do want to say please please please Respect these people for what they're doing. It's great. They really are helping the show. Dvorak.org slash N-A. Of course, you can always help out the show yourself by going out there and propagating the formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Hey, citizen. Yeah! Amen. Fist bump.

CHAPTER 22 / 46 Discussion

Hillary Clinton Campaign and the Laugh Factory Video

The Hillary Clinton campaign reportedly pressured the Laugh Factory to remove a video featuring comedians making jokes about her. The hosts discuss the lack of media coverage regarding the specific content of the jokes, which touched on Clinton's sexuality.

hillary clinton· laugh factory· censorship· caitlyn jenner· bill clinton

1:23:59 The the laugh factory in That Los Angeles Hollywood the last factory yeah, so the laugh factory had a put out a video with a number of bits Oh, right. This is great. From comedians. Yeah, and it's about a, what is it, three or four minutes? It took 45 seconds, just so you can hear. And the Hillary campaign has been threatening the owner of the Laugh Factory and saying, who are the comedians? We want their phone numbers. You got to take that out. You can't show that. And what is the gross offense? Well, it's primarily about Hillary's sexuality. That woman should be president of the United States. Because she knows what it's like to like men and love women. You know what I would love, Hillary? I was thinking about it, and I would love if you become president, then you divorce Bill, and then you marry a bitch. All of a sudden, that would fuck the world up. And they'd be like, is this what happened?

1:24:56 Hello Hillary. You look great. There's nothing like a skirt suit with shoulder pads to say I'm all woman. It's the kind of outfit that you see, who wore it better? Caitlyn Jenner or Hillary Clinton? They're all upset about it. Yes, I heard this. So, hilarious obviously, hilarious. You know, here's an interesting point. The right wing talk show guys, and I do listen, I went to an event in Santa Clara, a trade show yesterday.

1:25:42 What kind of trade show? It was, it's IDK, it's something that, it involves flexible circuitry. It's a real, it's a real, what I call a real trade show where it's just people in the industry, there's very few press, and they serve food to the whole, anyone who shows up, the whole place. So everyone gets lunch. Okay, so gum was there? No. Just kidding. So, um, you're terrible. I tried. And, uh... But it was a it was a they had some cool stuff there. They had like this these These little things it's like a just a folding Oh, they had a phone that went wrapped up itself and that wrapped around your wrist. It was also like a body thing nice The whole you mean the stuff the stuff we thought Apple would come out with as the watch yeah something like that really cool. Yeah, but come on now this was all here and

1:26:42 So, on the way down, I listened to right-wing talk shows and sports talk sometimes, but mostly right-wing talk shows because they were transitioning from one guy to another. And everyone was moaning about this event that you just discussed, but never mentioned the content. In other words, it's all Hillary's out to get comedians are making fun of her and they're trying to shut her down. They shut down the comedians. Quite the opposite. They're trying to pull her out. Shutting her down. And if you're not trying to shut down Hillary, trying to shut down the comics. Oh, I know. But I'm just saying that the comics are trying to get Hillary out. Yeah, they're all for it. But just announce it.

1:27:27 But, but, I'm just, what I'm saying is that they discussed the... Without playing the video. ...the superficial elements, but never mentioned the lesbian thing. No, of course not. No, because they haven't... Right, waiters are like... You know why? No, they haven't even seen it, John. No one does the work anymore. They just look at headlines, they look at BuzzFeed, and they start the show and have people call in. There's no work going into it. There's no sitting in front of the television for hours watching C-SPAN. There's no three by three. That is the Occam's razor explanation. You're right. They weren't suppressing anything. And I was thinking about this this morning. I was tired, a little bit of headache. Nothing bad.

1:28:03 I think about all the guys I know who are in radio who went from being DJs doing everything yourself. Now they have two producers and you know they walk in their headphones are all polished and warmed up pre-warmed. Pre-warmed with some guys mics. The mixer is all set up and so they're not These people are no longer too rich. Also, it's just way too much money. Rushing in Bob, way too much money. These guys got too much money. They just, you know, so they read the headlines that producer gives them. It's all it's a great web and they know what to say. She has a staff. Yeah, of course they do. With an editor-in-chief. Did you hear anyone play any of Nigel Farage's comments on Paris? I'm going to make this clear. You don't have to ask that question anymore. I know you ask these rhetorical questions for impact. I would never do anything like that. But if you don't get that joke, you don't get anything. Yeah, I do. I've never heard anybody anywhere ever

CHAPTER 23 / 46 Discussion

Nigel Farage on Saudi Funding of Extreme Ideology

Nigel Farage delivers a speech criticizing the "neocon approach" to bombing and highlights the role of Saudi Arabian funding in spreading extreme ideology through European mosques and universities.

nigel farage· saudi arabia· wahhabism· mosques· ukip

1:29:01 Play either Nigel Farage or the Pastor Manning. Ever. Anyone. We're the only people that do that. It's baffling. Farage is fantastic. Farage is sometimes on with Chris Cavuto, I think, or something like that. I've seen him there. But he did a 45 minute speech. Not Chris, it's Neil. Yeah. Yeah. Chris. He's now Chris. Sorry. Sorry, Neil. You're now Chris Cavuto. He did a 45 minute speech in front of his party and I just pulled out a small clip which shows that this is one of the evil

1:29:42 horrible, xenophobic, asshole right-wingers in Europe according to Christiane Annenpoel, the sold-out reporter. There is a tremendous conflict. There is a split of loyalties. But on the one hand, you know, people want to get on and want to be happy and want to get on with their neighbours and want their kids to play with each other. But on the other, they're being told things. They're being told things via the internet. But they're being told things in some of our mosques that directly conflict with the way that most normal people would want to live. And I have to say that in many ways our perpetual neo-con approach

1:30:25 where we go on trying to get rid of leaders of Arab and North African countries and think bombing is the answer to everything. In many ways we've made it easy for some of these people. But we have to attempt to stop this constant dripping of poison in the ears of young British Muslims. And we have every reason to believe that the main source of this problem is coming from money. Money that is pouring into our universities, money that is pouring into our mosques, and it's coming from Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is funding this extreme ideology. Well, you don't hear anyone play that, do you?

1:31:14 No, I'd said that's right on the money and it is right on the money with most of the mosque that are being built today are being funded by the Saudis with their wahhabist I mean Approach I made a terrible you have to mosque in the United States are built by the Saudis. I made a terrible mistake Oh So I just said I had a headache and during the Nigel clip I ran quick to the kitchen to grab some aspirin Yeah, actually some Advil Here's my mistake. I just took two Tylenol PMs or Advil PMs. Oh, you're gonna be knocked out in about an hour. I'm gonna fall over. Go get some coffee. This is gonna be a great show ending, ladies and gentlemen. Let's see what happens. Oops.

CHAPTER 24 / 46 Discussion

Ben Rhodes and Loretta Lynch on Refugee Vetting

Deputy National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes claims there is a robust vetting process for Syrian refugees, but Attorney General Loretta Lynch and FBI Director James Comey admit to significant data challenges in screening individuals from Syria.

ben rhodes· loretta lynch· syrian refugees· vetting· james comey

1:32:02 Sorry about that. I'm not gonna purge them. Yeah No, I'm not gonna do that. I'll just have It's gonna take an early afternoon nap You know the stuff in these drug in these can I have over the counter is you can fight it I'm gonna have to I'm on a mission. A lot of people losing their crap over what Ben Rhodes said of the, he's the deputy national security advisor for the Obama administration. And Ben Rhodes, he's a writer, he's been around, he's a douche, typical. And this is,

1:32:44 It's very interesting how we have the migrant issue in the EU, and of course we've had all these planted evidence of passports, and it's the migrants coming, people using the crisis to hopefully solve some kind of problem. And we will need to discuss what's happening because Europe is closing its borders. Europe is falling apart, and borders is a very important thing when it comes to a unification. But this is what Ben Rhodes said regarding Syrian immigrants coming into the United States. You heard a lot about this, you know, governors, 33 governors, I mean, could it be any crazier with the magic number, saying they don't want them in their states. But it was all based really on this quick statement from Ben Rhodes. Does the president now have any pause about bringing Syrian refugees into the United States? No, Chuck, we have very extensive screening procedures for all Syrians.

1:33:37 all Syrian refugees who would come to the United States. There's a very careful vetting process that includes our intelligence community, our National Counterterrorism Center, the Department of Homeland Security, so we can make sure that we're carefully screening anybody who comes to the United States. Let's remember though, Chuck, we're also dealing with people who've suffered the horrors of war, women and children, orphans. We can't just shut our doors to those people. We need to sort out how to focus on the terrorists that we need to keep out of the country, but I think we do need to do our part. to take those refugees who are in need. And here's another piece. Does the president now have any pause about... I'm sorry, that's the same one. Then we have... we had a hearing... Women or widows... women or widows and childrens and orphans. Orphans, three-year-old orphans. That seems to be the big thing going on. It is disgusting politicization of... When in fact it's mostly guys, I mean... Young guys, yeah. Yeah, young men. So what do we... I understand the idea of the meme to get sympathy but

1:34:35 If anyone thinks about it deeply, you bring in women and children and orphans, all you're doing...none of them are ever gonna work for 20 years. It's just gonna be a burden on the welfare state. You want men, so there's somebody...you want families. That's what you wanna bring. Yeah, but that, of course, is not what's being said. It's, you know, we're gonna bring terrorists and they're gonna blow us up. Well, no, there's that. So Ben Rhodes says, no problem, we have perfect vetting, we know how to do this. And then Attorney General Loretta Lynn... Lynch, but I like Lynn better She sang she sang this little ditty certainly This is up on the hill there where she was being questioned about this very topic

1:35:16 Certainly, with respect to the information coming into our databases from Syria, as the Director has noted, it does present challenges to law enforcement. However, that does not mean we will stop trying to obtain data and utilize that screening system. And I certainly want to convey our commitment to doing that. But certainly, as the Director has indicated, there are challenges to a system based upon the amount and type of data that one can obtain. In other words, Ben Rhodes is full of crap. I'm not sure why they're not synchronized. I'm sure Lynch... It was worse if you had the Comey clip. I didn't find them. Did you have it? I didn't find it. No, I did. I heard on the radio. But Comey, I heard it. Comey said they apparently was grilled about this in some other venue. And he said, oh, there's no way. I mean, they don't have there's no data. We can only look into what their data is available. It is not that we got nothing on any of these people. These are all people had nameless faceless. There's no we'll never know. Can they be? No, they can't be vetted. I'm pretty sure that

CHAPTER 25 / 46 Discussion

Peter King and John Brennan's Melting Plot Slip

Congressman Peter King calls for a suspension of the refugee program until 100% vetting can be guaranteed. Meanwhile, CIA Director John Brennan makes a notable Freudian slip, twice referring to the US as a "melting plot" instead of a "melting pot."

peter king· john brennan· melting pot· freudian slip· isis

1:36:19 Lynch was following up on what Comey said. She even said the director. So then we have our favorite, Congressman Peter King. And he doesn't agree that it's all cool to bring them in. Are you saying the president should suspend the idea of bringing in 10,000 refugees from Syria? He should absolutely suspend it unless they can show 100% that a person is not involved with ISIS. Because right now there is no responsible way to do the vetting and that's the reality. And why people like Ben Rhodes continue to say this is beyond me. To me it's as misguided as the president saying that he's contained ISIS. This is a failure of leadership and until we get leadership

1:37:00 We're not going to get Arab states standing behind us, and we're not going to have confidence from other allies around the world. And the president, from the day he started his war against ISIS 14, 15 months ago, it's been apologetic. He keeps telling us what he's not going to do. We should never tell ISIS what we're not going to do. And then Brennan. with a flub, another flub. I think this came out, this happened and everyone got caught off guard or some people got caught off guard and the speeches weren't written and people are just, I think they're a little on edge and even Brennan, who's a pretty cool character when it comes to, you know,

1:37:41 propagating his formula, he flubbed on this and I think it's a very significant one. We are a country, certainly I believe we are a country, that prides itself on its tradition of welcoming people from around the globe. There is no other country on the face of the earth that is more of a melting pot than the United States. A melting plot? Do you think he has played again? Yeah, he's he has plot on the brain with a country on the face of the earth That is more of a melting pot pot than the United States So he flubs twice. Is there something almost listen to it welcoming people from around the globe? He said something else. Flub twice. It's tradition of welcoming people from around the globe. There is no other country on the world. There's no other country on the world. I know that was maybe just the and I think that's what messed him up in the word plot came out. Why would he? Why is that's a Freudian slip of epic proportions. Certainly, I believe we are a country that prides itself

CHAPTER 26 / 46 Discussion

Whoopi Goldberg and the Hitler Christian Claim

During a segment on The View, Whoopi Goldberg claims that Adolf Hitler was a Christian. The hosts debunk this statement, noting Hitler's documented disdain for traditional Christianity and the Catholic Church.

whoopi goldberg· the view· hitler· christianity· religion

1:38:35 on its tradition of welcoming people from around the globe. There is no other country on the face of the earth that is more of a melting pot than the United States. And so what we want... I think he's right. We are a melting pot. One big plot. But the top... Wow. The View, my favorite show. Women around the world watch it. There's a question in here that I need to ask you. It's your beat. The View is my beat. And it's Whoopi, of course. Whoopi and Joy and all the gals talking about the meme that we should confirm that immigrants are Christians. If they're Muslims, they can't come in.

1:39:13 And I don't really know if anyone said that specifically that way. Not that way, but Ted Cruz kind of... Or no, it was the other guy. Rand Paul? No, no, the guy's not running for president. That was the vice presidential candidate last time it took over the speakership of the House. Ryan. Paul Ryan. Yeah. Okay. But the view took this to heart if they had their own their own take on boy on religion I mean Christian Timothy McVeigh was a Christian just saying he was a lot of monster Christians. Yeah, Hitler was a Christian He was not a Christian he hated

1:39:59 hated Christianity. That's why I'll play though it's another 17 seconds. This woman is retarded. They're monster Christians. Hitler was a Christian. Now you have the religious girl, the cute little conservative chick, and she's going to say, oh, because she's freaking out now because the whoopie just said the evil Hitler was a Christian and she's hitting her right in the forehead. Well, he didn't like the Catholics. Remember? There are people in all groups that don't represent that group. There's a whole bunch of bald heads on both sides.

1:40:38 Yeah, the big bonehead is sitting there in the chair would be Goldberg. What an idiot. Hitler was a Christian. I mean, Wikipedia, you can even see that that's not true. So now we have the problem in Europe with this, with the European migration and, um, There is a significant resistance to the, I think it was decided last Sunday or very early this week, about the quotas. We have a new boss coming in, the new Prime Minister of Poland. He's not having any of it and there are others. Poland's incoming Minister for European Affairs says he doesn't agree with... I'm sorry, Minister for European Affairs.

CHAPTER 27 / 46 Discussion

Poland Rejects EU Quotas and the Mini-Schengen Proposal

Poland's incoming European Affairs Minister Konrad Szymanski rejects EU refugee quotas following the Paris attacks. This coincides with discussions of a "mini-Schengen" zone that would exclude several Eastern and Southern European nations.

poland· schengen agreement· eu quotas· konrad szymanski· refugees

1:39:59 hated Christianity. That's why I'll play though it's another 17 seconds. This woman is retarded. They're monster Christians. Hitler was a Christian. Now you have the religious girl, the cute little conservative chick, and she's going to say, oh, because she's freaking out now because the whoopie just said the evil Hitler was a Christian and she's hitting her right in the forehead. Well, he didn't like the Catholics. Remember? There are people in all groups that don't represent that group. There's a whole bunch of bald heads on both sides.

1:40:38 Yeah, the big bonehead is sitting there in the chair would be Goldberg. What an idiot. Hitler was a Christian. I mean, Wikipedia, you can even see that that's not true. So now we have the problem in Europe with this, with the European migration and, um, There is a significant resistance to the, I think it was decided last Sunday or very early this week, about the quotas. We have a new boss coming in, the new Prime Minister of Poland. He's not having any of it and there are others. Poland's incoming Minister for European Affairs says he doesn't agree with... I'm sorry, Minister for European Affairs.

1:41:19 Poland's incoming minister for European Affairs says he doesn't agree with the EU quotas for refugees after the Paris attacks. We'll accept refugees only if we have security guarantees. This is a key condition and today a question mark has been put next to it all around Europe. Konrad Szymanski didn't explain what he meant by security guarantees. He only said that implementing the quotas is no longer politically viable. Zhamansk is set to take the helm of Poland's policy on European affairs on Monday. In September, Poland finally approved the EU plan for the relocation of 120,000 refugees across the bloc. The quotas have also so far been rejected by Hungary, Romania, the Czech Republic and Slovakia amid mounting criticism of how they treat the refugee populations.

1:42:05 So what is happening from what I can garner is we are now looking at a mini Schengen, is what they're calling it. So the Schengen Agreement is the open border policy of the European Union, of the nation states, where you can cross borders without being stopped and without any form of identification or passport being asked when you enter or leave, except for the United Kingdom, who are famously not part of the Schengen Agreement. And now it looks like Eastern European countries are going to be excluded from the Schengen zone, along with Greece, Spain and Italy. And Belgium, France, Germany, Luxembourg and the Netherlands are going to redraw the boundaries and create what they're calling now the mini-Schengen. So when you do this, this is how, this is the breakup of the European Union. This is the breakup. It's over. If this really happens.

CHAPTER 28 / 46 Discussion

The Breakup of the European Union and Brexit

The hosts discuss the potential collapse of the European Union as nations reinstate border controls. They look ahead to the 2016 Brexit vote and the impact of the migrant crisis on European unification.

european union· brexit· schengen· border patrol· california

1:43:01 And then it's just... Oh, it's happening. Yeah. Well, I'm not sure how... I've been watching most of the European news sources and everyone is just like... They won't admit to the breakup of the EU as a whole, but they all agree that the Schengen is over. And I think the Schengen and the euro, these are the two things that make up a United States of Europe. You imagine if we all we had border We have border patrol in Texas, but that's different. That's illegal search But if we had borders between states and you couldn't cross the California, I'm sorry We in California we do you have what you get stopped when you're driving down in the highway 5 Yeah, we have it here in Texas too. If you're within a hundred miles of the border then no No, stop it. Stop going from Washington to Calif to California Really?

1:43:55 Yeah. Is it border? Yeah. No. Yes. They stop you at the border between Washington state and California. I'm sorry, Oregon and California. There's no border between Washington, California or Oregon. And do they ask for your Auschwitz? No, they actually carry any fruits and vegetables. And then you say no, or sometimes they say, well, can't look in your trunk, and they don't want to bring in pests. So they stopped, California's got it between Nevada and California. They're using that old ruse, but I think you know it. It's not an old ruse. It's been around since the beginning when some asshole came in with some horrible moths and it wiped out. Yes, and now it's a ruse. It's not a ruse. Please, it's a ruse. It's a ruse. No. Stop with your ruse. But they do stop you, so that's not true. But this is,

1:44:42 Yeah, we're seeing this. Can you sneak in? Yes. Yeah, no, but we're seeing the breakup of the European Union. The EU is completely, completely flummoxed. They don't know what to do. And of course, the whole place is set up not to function. Well, I'm not going to disagree with any of that because I think it's happening, but I've never been a fan of the EU to begin with as anyone, as everyone should probably. And I'm not either. And I lived in the EU. Here's the question I have before I play my Ask Adam clip. Do you think that Brexit's gonna go over or not? And when is it due for a vote? What do you mean, when is it due for a vote? When did they vote on the Brexit? They haven't voted yet. No, I said when. Oh, it's coming soon. I think it's coming pretty soon.

1:45:41 Do I think that they will actually leave? I don't think so. I think it's going to be June 2016. There's so much that could happen between now and then. Well, there's lots of propaganda that's going to crank up. It's going to be fun to watch that. It's going to be great. But now, who else was talking about an exit? There was another exit discussed. Another country. I don't know of any. I'm sure there are. This is being discussed everywhere. People gotta, I mean France should go out immediately. They should. Yeah, this is an expedite to World War III. Yeah.

CHAPTER 29 / 46 Discussion

Air France Bomb Hoaxes and NSA Surveillance Failure

Two Air France flights were diverted due to bomb threats that turned out to be hoaxes. The hosts question why the NSA's massive surveillance apparatus failed to identify the callers and why the aircraft did not use standard emergency transponder squawks.

air france· bomb threat· nsa· ads-b· salt lake city

1:46:24 Okay, I have a question for you since we're talking about the bombings and you just mentioned France, right? It's my key or or as Thom Hartman says France. Have you been listening to his show? I have a clip from him actually he's He's now saying the horrible attacks in France. I should have recorded. He's like the only guy didn't go The terrible attacks in France What's your question Play this clip, Air France bomb threats. Air France, France, Air France bomb threats. Hence 24 hours for passengers flying over the US. A bomb threat called in two Air France passenger jets making emergency landings, one in Salt Lake City, the other forced to land in Halifax. Passengers describing the fear, flight crews in tears as tonight airports from coast to coast scramble to stay one step ahead of any new threat. ABC's David Curley covers aviation.

1:47:17 An emergency landing and evacuation of Air France passengers in two separate cities. Anonymous bomb threats shortly after takeoff for Paris. The phone-in threat said a bomb would go off in 90 minutes. and cleared to land. That flight, landing in Salt Lake City, had left Los Angeles. The other took off about the same time from Washington, landing in Nova Scotia, where passengers were taken off so authorities and canines could screen the jetliner. I would rather come to Halifax for the night than risk my plane exploding over the Atlantic. Both jets and 600 passengers cleared. It was a hoax. And with the busy Thanksgiving travel week ahead, the Secretary of Homeland Security is trying to allay any fears.

1:48:01 I do have a question. I just want to say I'm looking through But my alerts, because whenever an aircraft throws out a 7700 squawk, it shows up on my system. I didn't see either of these Air France flights do that. So I'm going to go back and check that. That's annoying me. That's annoying. It could be. Could be. All right. What's your question? My mind is if you call in an air threat nowadays, why doesn't the NSA pick it up? Because it's not obviously encoded or anything. You are asking a rhetorical question, aren't you?

1:48:49 And why didn't the NSA pick it up and then bust the guys and then make that big news? I don't know what happens. Why doesn't that happen? I'm asking you. You're a big expert. You have stumped the band! No idea. Because it's bogus. I'm telling you, I did not see the ADS-B squawk alert, so I'm... I'm questioning the validity of this at all. If you have a radio problem, you squawk 7600. If you have an emergency, you need to land, you need priority, it's 7700. If you are hijacked, it's 7800. I do not have any record of Air France. Maybe someone in the chatroom can look around for me and see if they can find it.

1:49:33 But I did not I didn't see it, and I check them every morning what came in overnight nothing, okay? Well, that's fine and dandy, but it still doesn't explain why the NSA just doesn't you know? Come knocking on the guy's door five minutes later. It's supposed to be that's what they're doing That's what they're supposed to be doing right you just threw in a right with a question mark I Think that's legit. Yeah, well let's talk about the the technology of what's going on here, okay? And well if you're gonna do that, let's replay a clip okay anonymous I Was gonna end with anonymous, but we can start a whole lot of their operations out there in the open I just want to I just want to

CHAPTER 30 / 46 Discussion

Anonymous Declares Cyber War on ISIS

The hacker collective Anonymous vows to attack ISIS online, leading to the suspension of thousands of Twitter accounts. The hosts argue this is counterproductive as it destroys valuable intelligence channels used by government agencies to track terrorists.

anonymous· isis· twitter· cloudflare· cyber warfare

1:50:17 Set up this clip, even though I don't know exactly what it is, but the cavalier nature of news reporting on Anonymous as if there's some established group that is all good to go Like like and now they're the heroes and it's not just some douchebag script kiddie dickhead with a with a guy Fox mask And I don't know what it is cuz could be CIA. I mean if you know hello They arrested the guy who was the original anonymous, they arrested him. Yeah, and he died in jail, I think they killed him. But the brand remains, and yes, this is very problematic because you're promoting something you know nothing about. It could be CIA, it could be any kind of organization. It could be like Ann Applebaum, what is that guy, IO error? The douche knuckle from Tor, it could be any of these people, any of them.

1:51:06 But, let's just report on them like they're heroes now. They don't take it down, they flag it, like the heroes they are, they flag it for Twitter to then go, oh yes, no, this is inappropriate, they're saying mean things, they're hurting my feelings, we'll take it down. Anonysts, what are they, gamers, gamer gates, social justice warriors? These are not hackers, these are little weenie people.

1:51:56 By the way, I promise to talk about social justice hackers and people always condemn us for Promising one thing and the next show goes by by the time the show's over you never get around to the topic I'm pushing it off and see in the open. This is a list of suspected Twitter accounts operated by Islamic State and look at this been suspended. And in fact, we know that in the past, Anonymous has worked directly with Twitter to try to take some of these things down. Yeah, it's nice to see that account suspended there. You know, government agencies across Europe. I mean, this makes no sense. Why would you suspend the account of someone who you can track and trace and

1:52:48 and use IP addresses and probably, you know, the Tor exit nodes. Why would you not honeypot that? Thanks, Anonymous. Thanks. That's the first thing I thought too. Dumb. Thanks, Anonymous. I mean, I can imagine somebody at wherever NSA or Langley or wherever they are sitting and seeing this and going, holy shit, they took... That is one of our best... One of our best accounts. Our best accounts. We were getting so many leads from that account. Oh these idiots have units of dealing of course with cyber intelligence cyber defense What a social media users think about anonymous getting involved in a domain that's typically a government domain Well this operation is already trending on Twitter with a hashtag up Paris or oh well if it's trending in the operation as a hashtag

1:53:37 ISIS and there's actually quite amount of support for Anonymous online. This is just one Twitter user here and he says, you know, one would think that our government would do something about ISIS, yet a group of hacktivists have done more than our own government. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. I'm getting, I'm getting upset. And it's probably because I watch a lot of tech shows, the tech horny shows. Then I listened to podcasts and I just, you know, see if there's anything new that typically isn't. But Here's what I heard consistently when brought up. Yeah, ISIS is you know, they're attack of the Anonymous is attacking ISIS and taking them down and and he and you Unified the tech horny host like that's so cool. Yeah, these guys are great. That's so cool. You Morons, that's so cool without any thinking about what we just said It's a Twitter account. It could be useful. It could be nothing but this is ridiculous and it's not cool

1:54:37 It's not. They may be interfering if this is actually going on and it's not all the whole thing is just a giant scam or scheme. You may be interfering with an important government operation. I'm not defending some of the stuff that goes on, but in this case, People in the NSA, are you kidding me? Or the CIA? Either one of them, they know what's going on. Half of these accounts are bullcrap. Half of these accounts are from the State Department. Yeah, exactly. It can't be taken that down. The State Department too. Now we have the big revelation, which is another handy use of this crisis, which we do not want to go to waste. It's been teeing up for

CHAPTER 31 / 46 Discussion

Encryption Debate and Site Intelligence Tech Tutorials

FBI Director James Comey and other officials use the Paris attacks to push for backdoors in encrypted apps like Signal and Telegram. The hosts analyze a "tech tutorial" for jihadists discovered by Rita Katz, which ranks the safety of various messaging platforms.

encryption· telegram· signal· rita katz· dark web

1:55:16 years, but really the past few months, particularly Director Comey of FBI has been all over it. And yeah, finally, finally, we can move forward with the encryption issue. Investigators have found evidence that the operatives tied to the Paris attackers Frequently changed cell phones, switched cars, even searched for possible listening devices. And according to counterterrorism and intelligence officials, there's evidence that they used encryption. Maybe they're using encrypted messaging apps. They do a very good job of hiding whatever you're saying from being intercepted by somebody who like a government. Encryption, conversations chopped up into a jumble by mathematical algorithms. Oh, that's a good. The math, it's.

1:55:58 This, what is it, is put into a jumble? You're saying, uh, chopped up. Chopped up into a jumble. Somebody who like a government. Encryption, conversations chopped up into a jumble by mathematical algorithms. I love the keyboard tapping. It's so modern. Code that US officials say is nearly impossible to crack. We don't have the ability to break strong encryption. And so if they move to the mobile messaging app, we're going to lose them. So that's a huge worry. Apps like one called Signal encrypt phone calls. WhatsApp and an app called Telegram encrypt text. Matthew Green, who teaches applied cryptography at Johns Hopkins, showed us another way terrorists can make their texts disappear on the Telegram app. This is fantastic and we need to focus on that. We've talked about Telegram as being inherently insecure in the past. You can program them to self-destruct in a few seconds. I send Green a text to meet me somewhere. He reads it. Then,

1:56:51 Telegram also has an avenue similar to Facebook and Twitter where you can post public messages. An avenue? What the hell is he talking about? I mean a wall, an avenue, a feed, an avenue. ISIS used Telegram to claim responsibility for the Paris attacks and the downing of the Russian passenger plane in Sinai. ISIS analysts say is constantly coaching its operatives on how to use secure communications. In its English language publications, ISIS says, use an Android phone. They're the hardest to crack. What? An Android phone is the hardest to crack? Are these guys steering them in the wrong direction purposefully? It sure sounds like it. I have a bunch of these clips. I didn't keep a lot of them, but I got the, for example, Ed Royce, the head of the house. Bear with me. I'm taking this to a place. Okay. Well, this is going to be adding to it.

1:57:48 He went on and on about encryption and they got these new technologies. And I just listened to thing after thing after thing about encryption, encryption, encryption. In fact, I wrote a column in PC Magazine about this, saying that they're going to lead us to this bull crap encryption thing. But go on play, because I have actually an interesting counter clip when you're done. Secure communications. In its English language publications, ISIS says, use an Android phone. They're the hardest to crack for the intelligence agencies. use particular applications that are anonymized. Use Tor, which is of course the darknet. Oh yeah, great! Use Tor, can't get caught there! But with all its tech savvy, ISIS may have made one significant cyber enemy. Anonymous, now vowing to unleash a wave of cyber attacks on ISIS in retaliation for the Paris massacre. Okay, two things about this. One, the cloud flare is all up in arms.

1:58:42 Saying, hey, stop DDoSing us. Because that, you know, and it's people who use CloudFlare. CloudFlare? Is that it? CloudFlare? Yeah. Who are now DDoSing CloudFlare hosted sites because they're anonymous and they think they're all righteous. What the Wall Street Journal published, which is the source, well I'll tell you first, it's under the radar. Islamic State issues regular tech tutorials. This week in jihad. Regular tech tutorials intended to keep followers' communications out of reach of government surveillance. This guide, circulated in January, ranks the encryption of chat apps. Want to guess who the source is of this image?

1:59:29 That magazine? Yeah, Sight Intelligence Group. It was Rita Kels once again. Oh, Sight Intelligence Group. Fantastic! So here she has, uh, Safest Apps. So they somehow found this document. Oh yeah, it was- Nobody else ever finds anything. It was on the dark web. Oh, they're the experts in the dark web. So here's safest our silent circle and red phone. I think it's the same Outfits OS tell which I've never heard of chat secure and signal a signal I think is secure safe Our telegram is considered safe, which we know is not right. Oh

CHAPTER 32 / 46 Discussion

Gaming Consoles and Secure Terrorist Communication

Reports suggest terrorists may be using gaming consoles like the PlayStation 4 to communicate securely. The hosts note that intelligence assets have historically used in-game environments like EVE Online for similar purposes.

playstation 4· eve online· encryption· benghazi· gaming

2:00:07 Wicker, Threema and SureSpot, never heard of those. Moderately safe is iMessage from Apple. Interesting. FaceTime, Hangouts and Facebook Messenger. Are you, are you kidding me? Facebook Messenger is moderately safe? Yeah, no. Unsafe, Viber, WhatsApp, Line, Tango, WeChat. All of these I think are pretty much, except for the Signal. I can vouch for Signal which used to be Tech Secure. And then of course we got the big news about another form of encryption which Rita Katz forgot to list on her little handy chart here. This news just coming in just moments ago by the way, the French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve says that 115,000 police, gendarmes and soldiers... Gendarme, gendarme, gendarme, make sure you pronounce it right. I think this is Holly Galani. Gendarme.

2:01:03 Says that a hundred fifteen thousand police, gendarme and soldiers are mobilized across France following last week's terrorist attacks and Kaznov also told local media that the interior ministry would also be investing in digital means. We were just talking about that. To combat encryption techniques used by terrorists and John interestingly also there are experts are saying that potentially some of these terrorists might have communicated through gaming consoles. So just so you can hear how clueless these people are. So the report was, which was not an official report from the French as far as I know, from officials, that PlayStation 4 was used to communicate amongst each other. And listen to these boneheads.

2:01:47 Gameboys, yeah, that'll do it. Gameboys, the most secure way to communicate within ISIS. Gameboys. Really. Under the radar, obviously you're not going to text and send emails, but there are other ways to communicate. You know, we talk about encrypted technology. It's not necessarily that these people have programmers lining up these new systems. It's using things like Gameboys or PlayStations or WhatsApp, which can be much harder to surveil than traditional phone lines. He's such a moron. Here's the one point I'll make about that and I'll shut up. When Benghazi was hit in 2012, we found out about it early because Sean Smith, one of the intelligence officers who was killed, was on his PlayStation 4 in InWorld and EVE Online. And there's no doubt that intelligence

2:02:44 official intelligence assets in the United States, I'm talking NSA, CIA, whatever, DIA, they use EVE Online for secure communications. They are in-world, that's how they communicate. So, wherever this report came from, true or not, it only adds fuel to the fire that these were not a bunch of terrorists. Well, they terrorized, so they're terrorists, but I'm thinking that is a big, big clue right there, red flag. Well, on one of the reports that David Muir did on ABC, they had found the guy who had rented the apartment to all of them. And the guy was like, yeah, what am I supposed to do? As a friend asked me, it was an interesting story and kind of in and of itself. I did not have a clip of it for some reason. I thought I did. And my argument is that if these...what do you need any communication for? You have a house, you rented this apartment, you check it for bugs and you sit around and you talk about what you're going to do.

CHAPTER 33 / 46 Discussion

Saint-Denis Raid and English-Speaking Police

Analysis of the police raid in Saint-Denis reveals that a cell phone found in the trash contained an unencrypted text message. The hosts also question why police commands heard during the raid were reportedly shouted in English.

saint-denis· paris raid· bataclan· encryption· swat

2:03:44 I mean, what do you need all this encryption and all this other stuff when you're in the town meeting just before the event? And then I got this little clip, which is David Muir in Paris reveals cell phone message, which was kind of baffling. You can see the signs of impact against the cement wall there behind us. The man who allowed them to stay in that apartment detained during the raid and questioned by investigators saying someone asked me to put people up for three days and I did them a favor. I don't know where they came from, I don't know anything. If I'd known, do you think I would have done it? And tonight, the French prosecutor also revealing more about the cell phones the attackers are believed to have used the night of the attacks. One found in the trash outside the Bataclan theater. On it, a text to a member of the terror cell at 9.40pm saying, we're ready, let's go. Let's roll is what you should have said. Well, where is that, this wasn't encrypted.

2:04:34 And what kind of a vague message is that anyway, that anyone would catch under any circumstances? This is bullcrap. This whole encryption argument is aimed at the U.S. public. It's got nothing to do with this. They had a... Judy Woodruff had a couple people on, and both of them were kind of brought on to scare the public about encryption. And it was curious to watch because it's... The clip was 10 minutes. Unfortunately, I couldn't pull anything out of it. But the conclusion was, that's bull crap. It just like ruined the thing. The script was ruined and Woodruff kept pushing and pushing and they both of them said, no, it's not about encryption. It's got nothing to do with it. And then I got this clip, which I thought was extremely peculiar. Same report by David Muir floating around Paris, living it up tonight. David Muir, play David Muir on your knees, show me your back.

2:05:20 A French prosecutor tonight revealing the SWAT teams were met with reinforced doors to the apartment they were trying to storm here in the Saint Denis neighborhood. The prosecutor saying they were met with a barrage of firepower, gunshots as they tried to get into the apartment. The rapid heavy gunfire could be heard through the streets. Witnesses seen police and terror suspects through their windows, the terrified residents watching it all unfold. On your knees, show me your back. You can hear the police yelling. Why are the police yelling in English?

2:05:58 Because that's a good question. It's a very good question. Most terrorists would show me your back. I didn't turn around say hands up. Don't shoot. Huh? Why was the police yelling in English? Yeah, I can't answer that other than it's a scam. There's a scam involved. How uncanny is it John though that what maybe a week and a half ago? We're talking about the start of World War 3 and then this kicks off. I mean how uncanny is it? Yeah, and I've been looking around. I've been following noodle man. I've been looking at as much as I can and I believe I know which City will be hit next in this campaign of terror you this is where you shine You ready? I'm all ears Oslo

CHAPTER 34 / 46 Discussion

Oslo Terror Prediction and the Eiffel Tower Lighting

A prediction is made that Oslo, Norway, will be the next target for a major terror event. The hosts also discuss the symbolic lighting of the Eiffel Tower and the Empire State Building in the colors of the French flag.

oslo· norway· eiffel tower· white house· empire state building

2:06:53 Oslo, I think is next. Okay, I don't know why you'd think that but okay, and I got a have a rationale for this You're just gonna throw it out there. No, I In looking at a lot of emails I've got from people, received from people about situation in Germany, situation in Austria, situation in Sweden, situation in Norway and Denmark, and the Netherlands of course. The Netherlands is, I mean, they're gonna start freaking out pretty quick. That's gonna happen. Now, you know that Norway's not in the EU, so that takes it out of the EU immediately. I don't think it's EU related. I think it's just terror related. All right? Oslo's a good country. It's a good country to do it. It doesn't matter where you do it, really.

2:07:30 And it will be focused on America and then it'll pop off. You know, they have New York. I'm saying I have a prediction for the Red Book, which is kind of a lame prediction compared to that. But, you know, the French have lit up the Eiffel Tower. I don't know how they did it. Hold on a second. Somehow people think I'm a moron and think that Oslo is a country. If I wasn't clear, I said Oslo's a country. I didn't say that, did I? No. You see, you knew what country was going to. No, you said, you know, When you I listen everything you said and when you said Oslo, I know what you meant Oslo the city in Norway Thank you, so I don't know what they're talking about moms. I just so they know I got my eye on you morons there Yeah, you do there you go again the chat room. Just get your goat. It's like let's see we get it I got a I got a great email. Let me finish my predict sorry your prediction uh

2:08:21 They've somehow, I don't know how, I would like someone to explain to me how the French have lit up the Eiffel Tower with the blue and the white and the red because anyone who's ever seen the Eiffel Tower or been there, the thing is a dingy brown color. It's a very screwy color. It's rusty. No, it's more brown than rusty. It's just this brown. It's painted a brown paint. That's what she says. It's a funny brown color. I don't know how you make the white. That Eiffel Tower be white. I don't know how you can do it It just seemed like be just a bright brown, but somehow they've done it my prediction is they leave it that way forever Possibly because it looks it looks much better It's even more body than I mean the French hated the Eiffel Tower when it was first built Well, I have a question for you. They wanted to tear it down. I have a question for you. Oh

2:09:14 Why is it that in this international days of mourning, and flags are half-mast, and why is it that the Eiffel Tower is lit up, everyone's freaking icon on Twitter and Facebook is all French flag is superimposed? Where was the White House? They all they need to do is turn off a couple of the gay colors and fire it. Oh, that's a great point Why didn't the White House fired? Oh, why didn't the White House do it because they weren't in on the scam? Yeah, huh? Exactly protest not to do it exactly. They did it on the on the Empire State Building. Yep, so very good mm-hmm mm-hmm all right, so you have a Email from

CHAPTER 35 / 46 Discussion

Nationwide Power Grid Drill and Drone Incidents

A producer working for a major electric provider reports on a nationwide drill involving simulated drone attacks on substations. The drill's timing, occurring immediately after the Paris attacks, raises concerns about the potential for a real-world grid event.

power grid· nerc· drone· substation· nationwide drill

2:10:02 Let me see the first I got a bit was a conversation and it went on encrypted. I work for an outage center for a major electric... I'm editorializing because I have to keep him anonymous, obviously. I work for an outage center for a major electric provider in a major metro area. I'm the guy on the front lines and in full control of any outage situations. This is the no agenda producing audience. Yes. Okay? It is. I said okay. That's why no agenda is such a great show people should contribute. And I would love to see

2:10:39 Some of these experts being questioned in news programming. Never happened. No. I'm the guy on the front lines in full control of any outage situations. Today at about 10 a.m. We were told there was a nationwide drill going on all day, and this was yesterday, and are told to report anything that comes across our system as unusual. Then 15 minutes later we are told that a drone had been spotted above one of our substations. But of course it was part of the drill. He says, I find it odd that this type of drill is being run so close after the Paris attacks. I've worked in this industry for 23 years and have never seen a drill like this happen. I question the motive behind this drill as it seems most events happen at the same time as drill. Well, we all know that. He said, I just wanted to send this out to you ahead of the curve so at least I have a timestamp in case something happens to the station or me. Whoa. God. And then he followed up.

2:11:38 Yeah, let's see. I can't mention that. There was a lot of good coverage of still, I don't have any clips, but I can tell you this happened over and over again. Coverage of bringing down the grid during this little discussion, while they were discussing the French, the Paris thing. So he expands now. While we do have simulated NERC, that's North American Electric Reliability Corporation training, once a year that consists of WECC, Western Electricity Coordinating Council, we have never had a simulated drill to my knowledge, 23 years. I was told this was a nationwide event. All of us in the control center were also told in person about the quote drill and not the way the company usually organizes events via email. We were all given instructions that if anything strange and out of the normal happens to notify management via a phone call and not by email. I found this whole protocol rather strange and it is not how we usually handle outages and events.

2:12:33 Outage and events are usually logged and documented to provide any legal recourse. I found this whole drill event rather odd as it was right on the heels of the Paris attack with the recent environment that has been created because of the Paris attacks. My spidey senses are on high alert for an attack here in the US. We know that all drills happen around such events. And he says that what did happen is they did, as part of the drill, the drone crashed into a substation. And it was, the drone was also part of the drill. So I would say we need to be on the lookout for drones flying into substations. That's the drill, so you know that's going to be coming. And we appreciate this producer who finalizes by saying, I stumbled upon your show when a good friend of mine hit me in the mouth. I'd been listening to the seed guy for a couple of years and the more I listened to him, the more I realized he was full of shit. Yeah, he brought up some good points, but he always turned it all around to make it about him.

CHAPTER 36 / 46 Discussion

South Park on Sponsored Content and Geico Ads

The hosts praise a South Park episode that parodies the inability of humans to distinguish between news and sponsored content. The episode itself features a meta-joke where the characters deliver a factual news story that doubles as a Geico advertisement.

south park· sponsored content· geico· pc principal· parody

2:13:26 So needless to say, I'm very happy with the work you do. I find your approach most excellent. I'll be making a donation as I've been a douchebag for the past year or so and I can no longer look at myself in the mirror. Well, we highly appreciate these types of messages. Yes, it's very, very helpful. Fantastic. And as we get ready to thank some people, you probably saw the tweets about the most recent South Park episode. No, ah South Park had a Their episode which aired I guess lens last night. I saw the whole episode then diamond producer even sending me little little clips pre pre-cut clips kid at the school

2:14:11 does the school newspaper and PC bro, who's not the principal, you know, all PC, he has an issue with someone in op-ed in the school paper using the word retarded. And of course, you can't use that word because it hurts somebody's feelings. And then this, the kid who's in charge of the newspaper goes in this whole thing about how he won't have ads and or sponsored content. And as he's going through that, he gets picked up by the evil newspaper corporations We're trying to figure out why he is one of the few who can actually distinguish an ad from from real news content. Here are a few clips. The average human can no longer tell the difference between the news and an ad.

2:14:54 You seem to have some mental ability that allows you to know the difference So they put the kid through a whole bunch of tasks like add add add content news add add add that's called Sponsored content I know the difference between the news and ads you think I'm stupid yeah Stick it up your ass. Sorry, Charlie, but I don't allow ads in my newspaper. We've heard all about that. So we thought you could just do some news stories about car insurance. Just state the facts, because the truth is everyone can save by switching to Geico. Now, the thing I like the most about this is, of course, they got paid for that. Yeah, of course. I hope so. That's the best part.

2:15:34 But I have to say that the guys over at South Park, they're doing important work. Comedy but parody is so incredibly important in times like this and it's nice to see that they're on the same track as No Agenda. It is nice to see. You know, so we're not entirely rare, by the way. Unfortunately, we don't have the the infrastructure to create such a great spoof where you actually make a joke about sponsored content and then get paid for doing a Geico ad. But, you know, those guys are really I'm going to show my school by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fab. No.

CHAPTER 37 / 46 Discussion

Thanksgiving Show Preview and Birthday Shoutouts

The hosts preview the upcoming Thanksgiving special (Show 776.5) and acknowledge more donations from the "No Agenda" community. They conclude the segment with birthday wishes for various producers and their family members.

thanksgiving· donations· knighthood· value for value· birthday

2:16:22 We do have a few people to thank for show 775 and we want to explain that we have show 777 coming up but it's not in two shows because the Thanksgiving show which I'll be editing tonight is show 776.5 because it's not really a show. So the following Sunday, the Sunday after Thanksgiving will be show 777. So you still have enough time to get in for your 777s. And that show, the Thanksgiving show, which you don't have to listen on Thanksgiving itself, but I recommend it because you can play this and the whole family can listen. It's hilarious. It's just funny. It's just funny. It's crazy that we think we're funny ourselves.

2:17:08 But the way it was put together, genius Sir Cybird did that. So that'll be on Thanksgiving Day. Mark Klein, we start off with a one, two, three, four, five donation from Barron, Wisconsin. You might want to make a note of this and give him a, allows me to use the name, Gentleman of Barron. He's a gentleman. Oh, based on my calculation, I am three. He's working on getting his knighthood is what it is. Okay. But he wants to be known as the Barron Or the, what was it again? The Gentleman of Barron, because he's in Barron, B-A-R-R-O-N, Wisconsin. It's cute. Chuck Kendrick in White Rock, British Columbia, 12321. Brandon St. Armand in Woodstock, Ontario, Canada.

2:17:52 $100. He's got a birthday coming up. Somebody does Paul ball bald of in in Chicago, Illinois 99 99 I wasn't ready for it 999 999. Do you know you know what? He was a Christian. He was a is that a question I have to answer he was a quiet. He was a Christian According to you all about it bald of in came in again and Well now he's at the mark where he's essentially at $200, essentially at $200 and so we should I guess... Put him up in associate territory. Yeah so he needs a de-douching and some karma. Okay. You've been de-douched.

2:18:41 Let's make a note of it. Yeah. Uh, let's see, who is it? Uh, Paul Baldovin. Yeah, I'm making a note of it now. Uh... Note made. So he got his job karma. Dr. Normal in Portland, Oregon, 8086. Colin, now we have a bunch of people that came up with 7770, which is a donation level we thought would be kind of nice and contribute to the 777 celebration coming up shortly. Colin Sloman in London, UK. Daniel Torellio in Charleston, South Carolina. Donald Winkler in Berlin, Deutschland.

2:19:20 Go podcasting! Go podcasting! Oh, I forgot to drop the mic. Yeah, you did. Robert... I don't remember where it is. I got a bunch of sound effects. I thought I put that in the... Try it again. Hold on a second. What? You just want me to say go podgazing? Yeah, I got the bong. Not that kind of bong, this one. Okay. Yell. Go podcasting! It's not quite as dramatic as drama, I guess. That really, really... It was bad. It was bad. That really didn't... Yeah, it didn't happen. I'll try again. I'll try. Okay, here we go. I'll do it properly. Here we go. Yeah. Perfect. Exactly. You should just make that a single clip. That is a single clip. No, you actually yelled it though.

2:20:16 Or is that the whole clip I have the whole clip with you saying gold podcast I do in the clip I do oh, okay. That's what you want Robert Owens in Oak Hill, Virginia, 7770. Chris Malmy in Cherry Valley, Massachusetts. These are all 7770s. Angela Castaneda in Henderson, Nevada. Ah, that's Dame Angela. Is it? Yeah, Dame Angela from... who produced the... Oh, down south, that's right, that's Henderson. Yeah. Yeah, Dame Angela. Yeah, Dame Angela. Sir Matthew Helle. Mathew. Mathew in Gatineau, Quebec. Jason Daniels in Dallas, Texas. And that closes that little segment. That's a lot. But we do have a lot of other ones like 7750 from Sir Herb Lamb in Sugar Hill, Georgia, and Sir Daniel Ehrlich in Bowlesburg, Pennsylvania. 7750, Sir Rick is in from Arlington, Washington at 6933. Kenneth Barnhouse in Dallas, Texas at 6666, along with Sir Inside Jobs Black Knight.

2:21:18 6666 in Seattle, he's in Seattle, Washington. Gina Brown in Providence Village, Texas, 6378. Vladimir Landman in Sioux City, Iowa, 5678. Brian, these are all mile hires. Brian Hopkins in Honolulu, Hawaii, 5510. Dean Roker, 5510. Double Niggles on the Dime, parts unknown. Thomas Dennis in Dewainesville. Duane's Berg, New York, 5510. Then we go to Sir Mike Gates, the night of high places, 5280 Colorado Springs, which is indeed a high place. I guess that's the Mile High Club. Jason Aubrey, I don't know what that other one was. Jason Aubrey in Foreman, Arizona, Arkansas. Foreman, Arkansas, $50. These are all $50 donors to close it out. Deanna Carruthers in Tumwater, Washington, where they used to

2:22:09 be the water used to make Olympia beer. Andrew Haverson in Gravenhurst, Ontario. Michael Gates in Colorado Springs. William Granger, parts unknown. Joel Deruand is in the Ruined Duck, I guess, in Savannah, Georgia. Matthew Mungin in Baltimore, Maryland. Rosalind Furness in Turnbridge Wells, Kent. Redkin Paul or Paul Redkin as it would be because it comes in backwards because he's in China right now in Shanghai Arthur Faust in Julia Julian, North Carolina John Camp and antlers, Oklahoma favorite town name

2:22:46 Amitav Hajra in Daleville, Virginia. Chris Perry in Silver Spring, Maryland. Dame Melody Man in Ringo, Louisiana. And that's the end of our list of people. Very good list. I want to thank everyone. A lot of knights in there, which of course a lot of people are getting to knighthood. I want to thank everybody for helping us out, even the lesser donations. And we do have a show coming up Sunday. We really hope you'll support us. Keep on supporting the best podcast in the universe. And I do have one made good, so I have to read it. It's a letter that came in from Kevin Kelly. He says, I sent a donation. I checked this out, by the way.

2:23:23 Because he's in some crazy town that I would remember. I never said it. I passed it over. I don't know. I sent him a note saying it's rare because you're reading along with me. I sent a donation, 5510 through PayPal, blah, blah, blah. It wasn't credited. Just wanted to be sure I'm sending donations to the right place. Love the show. Look forward to many more during my path to knighthood. Right on. I said right on. You did yeah, you should put that in there isn't that is on the list right right is right on is yes indeed on the list Along with oh wow thank you to everybody for supporting us. We do not have any sponsored content We do it. There's no way we can do it. We wouldn't you know, but doesn't work doesn't work at all We'd be fired We'd have people you have to do is listen to our show two or three times and you realize why we can't do any of that stuff exactly

2:24:11 Also, thanks to everyone who came in under $50 usually for reasons of anonymity, but also a lot of the subscriptions Please everyone go to Dvorak.org slash NA and check out some of the subscriptions in addition to any of your other support that you provide Everything does help so we can continue and Sunday as I said another show Dvorak.org slash NA It's your birthday, birthday. I'm so glad you're here. And Dean Calvin says happy birthday to his son Levi who celebrated on the 15th. Kate Burge is having birthday with her husband Jonathan celebrating today the 19th. Jeff Schwab, Kilo Golf 7, Yankee, India, Kilo.

2:24:53 He'll be celebrating his birthday tomorrow. Happy birthday from KF5SLN and KJ6LNG. And Brandon St. Armand says happy birthday to his asshole brother Stacy St. Armand celebrating on the 22nd. Yes, we say happy birthday to all of you from your friends here at the best podcast in the universe. No nights, no titles. I should mention that it was the brother who called his brother an asshole, not us. Oh, no, no, of course not. Yeah, but I'm just I'm just reading verbatim. I would never call anyone. Also, it's like douchebags. Well, we don't use asshole as much as we use douchebag. But also, we... We never started the douchebag thing either. That was the producers. Uh-oh. Second half of the show where we find out the truth.

CHAPTER 38 / 46 Discussion

The Marfa Lights Phenomenon in Texas

A personal account of visiting the Marfa Lights in Texas describes seeing multicolored spheres of light in the distance. Despite various theories involving car headlights or atmospheric reflections, the phenomenon remains officially unexplained.

marfa lights· texas· unexplained phenomenon· headlights· viewing area

2:25:49 The truth. Whatever. The truth. The truth. We got the truth. So after Sunday, after the show, it was overcast and raining in Marfa, Texas, where the Keeper and I were camped out. You were driving back in the trailer. Well, no, we decided we would, since it's a long drive, six and a half hours, that after the show we would stay one more night and then we'd drive back on Monday. She even took a day off for that. And which is, you know, we're lucky man. Does she sit in the trailer being bounced around? Yes. No, she's cooking. She's baking cakes while I'm driving. Make brownies. Are you kidding me? Okay, go on. No, she's very enjoyable to have in the car. She's a good counterbalance to crackpot. And we had already planned on doing this, but you even sent an email. You need to go look at the Marfa lights.

2:26:46 Yes, I did. The Marfa Lights is an unexplained phenomenon. You can look it up. There's a Wikipedia entry. And I will say this. Yeah, the Wikipedia entry tells you everything. What's interesting to me about it is that it only exists recently. The Wikipedia page? No, no. The Marfa Lights apparently showed up in the 1900s or something. It was never observed before. Yes, that's what you call recently? Yeah, well, I'm an historian. I think it was actually 1890 or something when it's... It was recently. Okay, recent. It wasn't around, they were there, then that all of a sudden it was probably Texas. Well, Texas populated, they would have seen it. So the Marfa Lights, it's about 15 minutes outside of town, which you drive through in three.

2:27:34 And they have a little, a little like viewing area, cement thing, which looks a lot like a gift shop actually. Like what kind of scam is this? But it's not. It was, it was incredibly dark. There's no ambient light. We go out to the, to the viewing area, it's raining. And I looked it up and said, well, the Marfa lights appear 10 to 20 times a year. Cause I really wanted to see, is it impossible to see this on an overcast night? And certainly when it's raining and it said, you know, it shows up in, all different types of weather and different conditions, but not always. So we go out there, but we're walking towards the back of this little viewing area, and there they were.

2:28:14 Probably... I sent you a picture, which is a shitty picture. Yeah, I saw the picture, it was useless. Yeah, it's useless. It's like those postcards that say Hawaii at night, just a black... Well, I think if you look online, you can see other more professional photographs with the MARFA lights. Yeah. And we saw them as clear as day. There were little like spheres kind of in the distance, balls of red, yellow, green and white lights. Oh, I didn't know they were multicolored. Multicolored, yeah. And they were not moving. They were just, you know, some of them pulsed a little bit, but it was just kind of suspended in air and we just stood there until we were bored of it. Okay, Marfa. Marley, do you want to go now? I said, listen. Are you going to watch? I don't know, honey. These things are really something. Yeah, no, no, no. I went, I went, hey, you want to see my trailer? And that was the end of the Marfa Lights.

2:29:11 Now entering second half of show. They are real! But what are they? Is there any speculation? I didn't do much research after I found out. No one knows what they are. People think they might have been headlights or reflections. I don't see any evidence of that. It's unclear. They're very clear to see, but it's unclear what it is. Well, can't somebody like look at the lights and then slowly move toward them until they either disappear or stay and then you grab one? They've done all of this and they cannot find what it is. That's ridiculous. Yes, it's ridiculous. Yet they can predict global climate change. I'm glad you brought that up. As we open up the gates, open up the door to the gate. Oh, I'm very happy about that.

CHAPTER 40 / 46 Discussion

Paris Climate Talks and the $100 Billion Cash Demand

A witness at a congressional hearing explains that the Paris climate negotiations are primarily about transferring $100 billion annually from developed to developing nations. The hosts criticize media figures like Thom Hartmann for their one-sided coverage of the issue.

cop 21· climate finance· reparations· india· thom hartmann

2:33:36 Oh, why not? Why don't you tell us what our theory is on the climate talks and what's really going down? I don't remember. Okay, here's the guy to explain it to you then. The Paris negotiations are not about emissions reductions, they are about cash. The developing world expects developed countries to offer more than $100 billion per year in what is called climate finance. The rationale for the money, the source of the money, and the use of the money are all unclear. Developing nations believe they are owed a quote ecological debt for past developed world emissions and also owed quote reparations for the damage from storms they link to climate change. Now these are plainly non-starters for the United States.

2:34:21 But the developing world is also asking to be reimbursed the cost of mitigation measures they take. India alone says in its INDC it needs 2.5 trillion dollars between now and 2030. But if the INDCs represent business as usual, funding is clearly inappropriate. Yippee! All about the money.

2:35:11 Yes, that should have been on the news somewhere. That could have been. Well, something similar was on the news. And it's one of the most slanted, weird pieces I've ever heard Tom Hartman deliver, although he's really good at it. I'm sorry. Are you referring to... Tom, Tom, I'm sorry. Tom? Here he is on Exxon and here's I'm gonna give you that what would happen here from what I from my perspective I don't know the details because this is not gonna go any question about thumb because I because of course I listened to serious progress And I listened to thumb but Is he making money because every commercial is about the super beats and

2:35:51 You know, the beat, like dried beets or some powdery stuff that Alex Jones probably makes. I think the commercials you're listening to are the network commercials. And he also does gold. How about a guy like Thom Hartmann, who was holier than thou, then is like, oh, Republicans suck, they're crazy, they're... Self-gold. Yeah. And then he goes into, oh, right now I have a financial analyst on the phone, and he's like, well, what about the coming crash? Well, we should all buy gold. Okay. How can he take himself seriously? But he's out there promoting gold for a commercial right after he's finished excoriating everyone who disagrees with him. Which is kind of how crazy Obama bots operate. Yeah, it's sad. Along with Michelangelo Signorelli. This is my next target. This guy's got to go down. You ever heard of this guy? Yeah, I have. I don't think I've ever heard him. He is the most hateful

CHAPTER 41 / 46 Discussion

Exxon Climate Investigation and the Tobacco Analogy

New York State investigates Exxon over claims the company knew about climate change in 1977 but funded denial campaigns. The hosts argue the analogy to the tobacco industry is flawed and designed to extract billions in settlements.

exxon· climate denial· thom hartmann· lobbying· tobacco industry

2:36:47 I mean, most hateful man... Does he beat Ed Schultz in his heyday? Oh, hands down! I don't know if you've heard of Ed Schultz's heyday. Well, in his heyday, I don't know about in his heyday, but then he's a good contender to take over the hate spot. Unbelievable. For a gay white man, he should check his privilege. Yes, he should. So, in 1977, of course, there was the big global cooling going on and everyone was sitting on...and I think it lasted until 79, about 76. And may I say that if anyone says, oh, there was only one article published, search.nashownotes.com, search.nashownotes.com. Now, we probably only have the tip of the iceberg. We have scans of the New York Times, of Newsweek, of Time Magazine, we have...

2:37:32 tons of op-eds, editorials. I hope I'm not blowing your thunder, but back then they also claimed the same thing about global cooling. Yes. And there wasn't one article. It was cover stories. I went through that period. It was like every other thing was about the news, the nightly news. You don't have any of those because you'd have to go to the broadcasting. But I do have in there, I have in the show notes, I have a scan of the New York Times where the Pentagon, based on the reports of global cooling, was saying that this could bring about all kinds of horrible things like terrorism.

2:38:13 I kid you not. Now the, apparently Exxon had been looking into the global climate change, they've been looking at climate change at the time for their own purposes. And they, from what I could tell, they came to no conclusions one way or the other, but they did study it and they continue to apparently study it because they think it would have, it will affect the way they're drilling rights. And, you know, it's harder to drill in the frozen tundra and all the rest. And, but Hartman, or I guess somebody in New York state supposedly, even though this has not really been documented, is thinking of suing Exxon because just like the, we have this false analogy, just like the cigarette companies,

2:38:55 They knew about this in 1977 and they didn't do anything about it. Now, play this clip and then the way I had to cut it off, I felt I just couldn't stand it anymore. It's thong. Yeah. When they brought some woman in, some Australian nutcase came in and she's yakking about stuff and I got sick of her accent. No offense, Australian donors, but this woman, you'll see what I mean. I'm sorry, it's worse than what's-her-name, that woman that used to be the Prime Minister. Anyway, play. For tonight's Green Report, we go to New York State. I'm sorry, the Green Report? Yes, he does these little gimmicks every once in a while. He brings music and a logo. Hey dude, get yourself some producers like we have, man. Man, unbelievable.

2:40:03 Crazy. The investigation is based on the fact that earlier this year it was revealed that Exxon not only knew about climate change as far back as 1977, but they actually researched climate change and the impact of burning fossil fuels extensively for more than a decade. Even so, Exxon spent $30.9 million between 1998 and 2014 to fund think tanks that ran climate denial campaigns. And the fossil fuel industry as a whole spent $141 million in lobbying just right here in the nation's capital. Just like the cigarette companies funded research to prove that nicotine is safe and not addictive, ExxonCee...

2:40:45 You can't make this the way he did this. It's bogus. He says they spent $141 million on lobbying, just like the tobacco industry spent on tricking the public. Or just like the military and cadet school complex does on buying off senators. This analogy is bogus. This guy is... misleading the public on purpose. It really galls me when you hear people going out of their way. I mean, one of the things about our show, we reveal a lot of stuff, but I don't think we try to mislead anybody. Sometimes we're just flat out wrong, but we... It could be wrong. It happens. It could be wrong. It does happen. There's a lot of... We're not scripted. We don't have producers like... We're not trying to mislead you. Oh, you know, and this climate change thing is all

2:41:27 all about misleading but the way he did that just got that's why I got the clip. I agree. I agree. Disgusting. Disgusting. To prove that nicotine is safe and not addictive, Exxon seems to have been funding research and paying off politicians to sow doubt about climate change. But if the investigation turns to prosecution, who would the plaintiffs against Exxon be? And how much responsibility should the company bear considering how long they knew and how much they profited? Here now to discuss this investigation and what the true cause of Exxon's climate denial might be is Dr. Keely Boom, executive officer at the Climate Justice Program. Dr. Boom, welcome. Thank you, Tom. Thanks for having me. Thanks for joining us. Do you think this investigation will go anywhere?

2:42:12 Well at this stage there's no civil or criminal charges that have been pressed and the news report came through an anonymous leak so New York is not talking officially about what's happening so it's difficult to make any determination at this stage. But it does appear that it is going somewhere and that it's likely that further companies will also be investigated so it might be broadened beyond Exxon as well. I couldn't take her anymore. Let me finish. The conclusion of this was going to be they started working on the math and they figured that Exxon should be paying out... They, you know, this idea of scamming everybody for money. Exxon is responsible for most of the climate change and they should be paying billions and billions to everybody. So it was, you know, same conclusion as what they're trying to do with that OPC. Well, with this type of reporting, John, you know what we need.

CHAPTER 42 / 46 Discussion

Mudflats Update and Hate-Listening to Progressive Radio

The hosts provide a "must-watch" update on the San Francisco Bay mudflats, noting the lack of rising sea levels. They also discuss the experience of "hate-listening" to progressive radio stations to understand the opposing political viewpoint.

mudflats· san francisco bay· progressive radio· twitter· climate change

2:43:11 Because of what's happening in Greenland right now, the maps of the world will have to be redrawn. That's right everybody, it's time once again for a must-watch update. This is what would happen in San Francisco Bay. Well I have to say this, that which is a performative. I have looked out there for this report every so often. It has never been this Low tide there's like no water in the mud flat are you telling me that the Arctic has not delivered water to the mud flats The mud flats are really muddy today. Let's put it that way We still have people to listen to this show that love everything we do except this segment of

2:44:04 I still get a letter. About the mudflats or about global warming in general? No, about the climate change. You guys don't know science. I like this one guy who keeps hounding me. I just can't answer him. And by the way, yes, I find myself, this is something I do all the time. And you might want to, not you, but anyone listening may want to consider this. I'll see someone with a, you know, some comment on Twitter. I'll reply, I'll write my reply and then delete it. And then I feel good and yet I haven't wasted any energy.

2:44:43 So you write your reply. And then I don't send it. I don't post, I just delete it. I feel better. Oh, you just get out of your system. Yeah, because I'm like, why am I engaging? I mean, you look 53 followers. No, I'm not going to do that. Oh, no, not come on. Not going to go that 10 followers. They're just coming on. Just so we were listening to progress on the way back on Monday. And then you love that station. Yeah, because it you're a hate listener. It is astonishing to me that This is how a large group of people thinks.

2:45:18 You know, arguably half of the country thinks this way, or half of the voting population of this country thinks the way he's voting. I would guess more of a third. A third. Well, it's bad enough. It's a lot. And so then you have Thomp Thomp and then this Michelangelo Signorelli comes on. And I say to Tina, I said, watch, within two minutes it's Bush's fault. And sure shooting, within two minutes Paris was George Bush's fault. Unbelievable. How did he come to that conclusion? Because ISIS was created in Iraq. That's now the story. Therefore, it's George Bush, when he accepted the lies from... No, when he made the lies, which of course it was New York Times really who propagated the lie with wrong, if not disingenuous reporting.

CHAPTER 43 / 46 Discussion

FCC Website Shuttering Power and Gates Foundation Grants

The FCC reportedly seeks the power to monitor and shutter websites in the name of national security. Additionally, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation announces a $120 million grant for global family planning and contraception access.

fcc· calea· net neutrality· gates foundation· planned parenthood

2:46:08 And I'm gonna try and defend Bush. I'm pretty sure Cheney is still involved in all this crap with the skull and bones, and he's probably running a lot of it in the background. But it's just, it's, it's, yeah, I'm gonna pull some clips from this guy. This has gotta be my new guy to hate. I'm gonna work on it. Okay. Then a little concerning, although I'm tracking it, but I don't see it going anywhere fast. The FCC is now saying, in response to the Paris attacks, they want the power to monitor and shutter websites. And this is going back to Kaliya, which has come up a lot in the past... well, since we've been doing this show. Whose websites? Anyone they want. Anyone they deem inappropriate. FCC? Yes. Websites? Yes. And they're saying they have... wait for me... wait for me... Together, John.

2:47:00 CALEA, the Communications Assistant for Law Enforcement Act. They're now saying, well, we have all kinds of authority under CALEA to do things, but it hasn't been, this is the, we've heard this many times, it hasn't been updated for today's technology. But Wheeler really thinks, this is the FCC chairman, really thinks that they have the authority, just not the verbiage, to do this. Which is interesting because it's Department of Homeland Security that should that you know at least controls DNS and shut shuts things down So I'm following this my beat. I'm following this you got it. See what comes up. This is the net neutrality Taken to its extreme. Oh, yeah, there's a couple words. We haven't heard recently Oh, no, I've read it on the Verve had a whole thing about T-Mobile now giving Unmetered access if you're watching

2:47:55 Netflix or if you're streaming Spotify or Pandora doesn't count towards your data, which actually was a very cool way for T-Mobile to up their monthly pricing. I was kind of slipped in. It was funny the way that not funny. It was interesting the way they did that. But then, you know, the verb is like, oh, you're this is net neutrality. You can't this is a baby. And that's exactly how the verb sounds in everything they write. A little under the radar note here from the Gates Foundation. You know, there's a big merger happening up in Canada, it's not Canadian national. That's what Gates has at stake in, right?

2:48:40 Yeah, but can I say I think it's a CRX is what I think well does he have Canadian Pacific as well? I don't know because they're looking at that. Well. They're looking at Acquiring another company doesn't matter, but through that I found Looks like they're changing their investment strategy, and I think planned parenthood is done. I think they're done and Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has announced a three-year $120 million grant to Family Planning 2020, a global public-private partnership comprising governments, multilateral and private sector organizations, individual donors, then the research and development community working to provide 120 million more women and girls with access to effective contraception by 2020. Do you think that Planned Parenthood may be part of this?

CHAPTER 44 / 46 Discussion

Ben Carson Foreign Policy Slams and Faraday Future

Media outlets like Democracy Now! and PBS slam Ben Carson's foreign policy knowledge. In other news, a secretive Chinese-backed company called Faraday Future is reportedly developing an electric car to compete with Tesla.

ben carson· democracy now· judy woodruff· faraday future· electric cars

2:49:32 I don't believe so. Well, you don't know. Well, it's this family planning 2020 and I haven't seen that connection just yet. The only connection I'm pointing out is that Bill and Melinda Gates, you know, contributing to killing people in Africa. It's usually what it's used for. Well, it's way... This is just the way it goes. I have... An interesting thing. My beat is following the Ben Carson slams, slam fest. Was this part of 3x3? In this case, let's see, I got Judy and I got Democracy Now. In fact, it wasn't. Darn. This is the more deeper news stories, including the fantastic Democracy Now show where Amy Goodman... And this, by the way... The War and Peace Report? Yeah, the War and Peace Report.

2:50:22 She comes out with this little comment after there was a correction that was at least thrown at Judy Woodruff, which kind of explained a little bit of this. But why not? You know, you hear this stuff about Ben Carson. He's a black guy who's a Republican, and they should be rebuked just for being black and Republican. Uncle Tom. Uncle Tom. Uncle Tom. Uncle Tom. And so here he is getting slammed. This is the Carson slam of the day, Democracy Now! People can then pull apart and say, see, I told you. No, no, no, no, no, no. Is this Carson slam of the day, DN? Oh, I'm so sorry. My mistake. Here we go. Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson's own advisors have acknowledged he's struggling to comprehend foreign policy. Carson, who's leading— Yeah, just the way she says that, it is so demeaning.

2:51:10 Yeah. He's struggling with—it's so demeaning. Oh, he needs to be programmed. I don't know what she's trying to say, but it sounds demeaning. It's horrible. Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson's own advisers have acknowledged he's struggling to comprehend foreign policy. Carson, who's leading Republican candidate in some polls, has blundered on the topic of foreign policy, including wrongly claiming China is involved militarily in Syria. Speaking to The New York Times, a top Carson adviser said, quote, "'Nobody has been able to sit down with Carson and have him get one iota of intelligent information about the Middle East.'" Is that unbelievable? Yeah. Well here's the, Judy had the same kind of slam piece she was going to do with him on the air. And this clip is the Judy versus Ben Carson clip. And there's a little tidbit in here that I think that Amy ignored. People can then pull apart

2:52:05 and say, see I told you he doesn't know anything. When in fact you really need a much more comprehensive answer to some of these questions. Well this is your own advisor, Mr. Claridge, saying that in his words you need weekly briefings, in his words, quote, to make you smart. One of your other advisors... He's not my advisor. He is not my advisor. He is a person who has come in on a couple of our sessions to offer his opinions about what was going on. To call himself my advisor would be a great stretch. And he has no idea who else I'm sitting down and talking to. Who is your principal advisor on national security? Because one of your other advisors, Armstrong Williams, has said that

2:52:47 But he said you're still on a steep learning curve. I am. You know, I know a lot more than I knew a year from now. And a year from now, I'll know a lot more than I know now. You know, in medicine we have something called continuing medical education. You have to get those credits in order to be recertified. I think that applies to every aspect of our lives, particularly in a rapidly changing world. Well, he, uh, she, by the way, when he said she, he's not my advisor because she's just reading from a script. She actually was flummoxed. I saw that. I saw it. I happened to see this. Yeah, wasn't it good? But meanwhile, of course, this happened way before, uh,

2:53:28 Democracy Now, War and Peace Report woman went off after him with this other thing. I don't know anything about the China deal, but I do have the little flub that he made though, ISO'd, which I think is, eh, you know, could have put it better than this. You know, I know a lot more than I knew a year from now. I didn't hear that. Good one. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm agreeing with Judy. Ben Carson's an idiot. Yeah. Well, my goodness. Hey, do you know anything about the secret Chinese electric car? No. From Faraday? No, is that the one that's the exact lookalike? No, no, no, no, no. It's from Faraday Future. Okay. And it's backed by some multi-billionaire.

CHAPTER 45 / 46 Discussion

Netanyahu Indictment in Spain and Saudi Arms Sales

A Spanish judge issues an arrest warrant for Benjamin Netanyahu over the 2010 Gaza flotilla raid. Simultaneously, the Obama administration approves a $1.29 billion arms sale to Saudi Arabia despite concerns over war crimes in Yemen.

benjamin netanyahu· spain· flotilla raid· saudi arabia· yemen

2:54:18 And apparently it's staffed by all former Elon Musk or Tesla engineers. Chinese engineers. Maybe. I don't know. The billionaire backers, Jia Zhuang Ting, founder of LeTV, that's China's Netflix. Yeah, I think it's a There's like some picture. It looks like a really cool car. It'll be a Tesla at one-third the price And it'll be twice as good It could be you don't know I mean with the Chinese products can be really good. I mean most of the good Cameras are made in China now. I even like the name where it's you have Tesla and then you can use Faraday as in Faraday cage as As your F. Faraday slow your counter brand you very cute. I like it. I like it. I like it I like it well pretty soon. We'll be driving Chinese cars. You got anything else man. Oh, we can we go I? Do have a one thing that that's where you say it fucking a this is

2:55:22 Let's play this little tidbit that everyone should be aware of. This is Netanyahu indicted in Spain. A Spanish judge has issued an arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and seven other former and current Israeli officials over the deadly 2010 Israeli raid on the Gaza-bound aid flotilla. Nine people were killed when Israeli commandos stormed the Mavi Marmara in international waters. A tenth died after four years in a coma. The case against Israeli officials in Spain emerged after Spanish activists on board the flotilla sued Netanyahu. The judge's move means Netanyahu could be detained and questioned if he steps foot in Spain. I always thought these things were EU-wide, if he did this indictment, if he stepped foot anywhere.

2:56:11 in the EU he'd be pulled into Spain. Good question, I don't know. That's what I thought was she didn't go because she doesn't cover anything like that. I might as well play this last thing just to get it out of the way. All right. Just screw you Russia. This is Saudi Arabia buys more arms from us. The Obama administration has announced approval of a 1.29 billion dollar arms sale to Saudi Arabia despite reports of possible war crimes in Yemen. The State Department approved the sale of tens of thousands of bombs, as well as munitions and other weaponry produced by Boeing and Raytheon. The weapons replenish stocks used by Saudi Arabia in the U.S.-backed bombing campaign in Yemen, where Amnesty International has warned of apparent war crimes by the Saudi-led coalition. Meanwhile, executions in Saudi Arabia have reached a 20-year high, with more than 150 people executed this year.

2:57:03 Of course that second item has nothing to do with it. No, it's a story. Okay. I you know, it's the military industrial complex, but as we speak are partying it up Yeah, they are stay are just beside themselves with joy. I can't imagine what these parties are like I bet there's just hookers Oh first class first growth Bordeaux's campaign Caviar. Oh yeah, lots of caviar. That's why people out there, you want to buy caviar, it's too expensive. You know why? These guys. Speaking of which, I've fallen into, I had not watched it, but I finally got into The Americans. Have you ever watched this series? Mimi likes it. Oh, it's fantastic. I can't watch it. I've tried to watch it. The first episode was harsh because I didn't like the first episode and I don't like the atmosphere of the show. It's dark.

CHAPTER 46 / 46 Discussion

Outro, The Americans Series, and Gitmo National Anthem

The hosts wrap up the show with a recommendation for the TV series "The Americans" and a final call for donations. The episode concludes with the "Gitmo Nation" national anthem and a satirical ISIS-themed song.

the americans· gitmo nation· national anthem· value for value· adios mofos

2:58:00 Yeah, yeah turn on some lights It's yeah, you know what I kind of like it and that girl was named Carrie something or other Carrie Russell. Yeah Now that's a spy All right everybody we will go back to our C spans into our three by threes Scouring the dark web and continue to keep everything coming those of you who are sending us information. It's all highly appreciated Sunday should be fun, but at least I hope so who's moving where yeah? There's gonna be we need we need it. We need a term. They'll be packaging this up for Sunday packaging Perfect coming to you from the crackpot condo

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