Mighty Men of Valor

00:00 We're gonna wear dancing slippers? Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. And Sunday, November 1st, 2015, time once again for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 770. This is no agenda. Enjoying my beachfront property in Central Texas. I'm broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state, FEMA Region 6, Austin, Texas. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where there's no flooding here, And the time is wrong. I'm John C. Dvorak. I love that. At 12.02 AM local Austin time, I receive a text message. Remember to set your clocks back, which is it really makes me chuckle.

00:48 Because that happens automatically in my house. Yeah, well it happens on one clock here and then on the computers. But if you're scheduled for the old times and you get up and when you get up, it's the computers telling you it's a different time, it's a different deal. I just thought I'd mention it because I know it's... No, I appreciate it. I have forgotten it in the past and... Yeah, but what is your alarm clock? What about it? Well, what kind of alarm clock do you have? It's just a nice day. What it is. Here comes years ago. Yeah, I had a housekeeper. And for Christmas she bought me an alarm clock. This is how many years ago it is, I'll tell you when I describe the alarm clock. She bought me a Christmas present which was an alarm clock which I use to this day. It is fashioned after and looks like an orange original iMac, the tubed ones.

01:41 Huh remember those colorful I first came back the plastic ones. Yeah, it looks yeah the plastic ones It looks like an iMac a little bitty one which is an alarm clock I still use it for sentimental reasons is this the Timex iMac alarm clock and ho it's something from China. I have no idea word Are you sure could because this I'm looking at pictures right now No, it's not didn't say timex on it hmm And so is this one is so easy is your luck did the numbers flip over like little plastic? As another story you want to go on all day What kind of sound does it make does it have one of those Exactly like in early days. It was pretty much just a relay clicked over and it was I

02:28 The alarm clock would actually move on the nightstand shake around yeah That's that's what you use when you try to shut it over this news thing you had to take a couple shots at oh Wow okay, yeah, so you do need to change that one obviously why well because it doesn't it doesn't adjust automatically yeah, oh I have one of those other flippy ones too, which I've always admired as an astonishing piece of technology. So made them and it was like those it was like the old in some European airports they still have those you know things they flip around. You know what you should do with this thing? You should open it up, take it apart, put it in a suitcase and ask one of your kids to take it to school. See what happens. Yeah. Well, of course we all know that

03:17 Daylight savings time is purely an elitist move. And every year I promise the same thing and I have managed to fail to deliver one more time. You mean on the true reasoning behind daylight saving time? Well, the true reasoning, a lecture about the true reasoning plus a number of clips which I have on a reel-to-reel tape someplace in the basement, a number of clips of celebrities in the 1930s who all recorded their bitching and complaining about daylight savings time. On both sides of the argument. I read an article this morning that says, without doubt, there is proof that when we spring forward

04:07 So what is that, April or whenever we do that? March? They change it. Yeah, of course it's never the same date either. So when we spring forward there's a 25% increase in heart attacks. Subsequently when we fall backwards there's a 21% decrease in heart attacks. Wishes just keep falling backwards every year just keep on falling back slowly slowly Until we're everyone's on the same time. Yeah, take 25. No, it's a good twice a year take 12 and a half years and you'd be yeah, I'm convinced still it's just a bunch of elitist sitting around going Watch what will make these idiots do now? It's important okay, okay, boy. There's no other reason for it

04:57 So we're drowning here in Central Texas. Yeah, give us a little background. You're in the middle of one of the biggest storms in the history of Texas. Well, the storm is gone. It's past. But now it's flooded. Yeah, I saw pictures of bar... Actually, Friday. What about your old house? Did you check it out? No, I did not actually. I didn't check it out. I'll bet you it's flooded. No, because it's on a hill. So it would flow downstream. But yeah, it was pretty bad. And Friday, there was no traffic. Friday night, because I can look down at a parking lot here in downtown, which unfortunately I will have to move if this bond gets voted in. They want to build a 14-story courthouse right in front of my building. Well, I'm not going to stick around for that construction. Oh, no. You wouldn't be able to get any sleep. No, it's horrible.

05:53 But there were no cars and then last night Halloween I mean even on a Saturday night around 9 o'clock you'll see the parking lot is starting to get full it was like everyone drowned This is no one left in in Austin. It was very very peculiar But yeah, we had we had real flooding we had you know cars floating away, and yeah Not great. Did you hear the one with a guy in the tree? Oh? No. Oh, it's all over the net is because it's so humorous. They're doing a local report on some guy reporting on this is being flooded out of his car. And as he's about halfway through the report, he says, that's a where are you now? Are you safe? And I guess, no, I'm in a tree. Yeah. Waiting for you're in a tree. And a guy who says, oh, I was an Eagle Scout. I know how to sit in trees for hours. I'll just wait. Okay.

06:46 It's actually quite funny. They got on the national news on the trip three by three. I didn't see that. I didn't see that. No, but it's too busy chasing down a lot of things, a lot of things happening. This, you know, as, as we, well, first of all, it is a new month. Maybe I should give a quick rundown of presidential proclamations that have come out. It's going to be quite a busy month. Okay, go. And of course these presidential proclamations are official. They're the real deal. And they're, they usually coincide with something that's intended to happen in the month legislation wise. Although I'm not so sure if there's anything big about National Adoption Month, which is the month of November. National College Application Month! Wow! What an insight! Isn't this the month when everyone applies? Yeah, but these are for college applications for next year. Huh.

05:53 But there were no cars and then last night Halloween I mean even on a Saturday night around 9 o'clock you'll see the parking lot is starting to get full it was like everyone drowned This is no one left in in Austin. It was very very peculiar But yeah, we had we had real flooding we had you know cars floating away, and yeah Not great. Did you hear the one with a guy in the tree? Oh? No. Oh, it's all over the net is because it's so humorous. They're doing a local report on some guy reporting on this is being flooded out of his car. And as he's about halfway through the report, he says, that's a where are you now? Are you safe? And I guess, no, I'm in a tree. Yeah. Waiting for you're in a tree. And a guy who says, oh, I was an Eagle Scout. I know how to sit in trees for hours. I'll just wait. Okay.

06:46 It's actually quite funny. They got on the national news on the trip three by three. I didn't see that. I didn't see that. No, but it's too busy chasing down a lot of things, a lot of things happening. This, you know, as, as we, well, first of all, it is a new month. Maybe I should give a quick rundown of presidential proclamations that have come out. It's going to be quite a busy month. Okay, go. And of course these presidential proclamations are official. They're the real deal. And they're, they usually coincide with something that's intended to happen in the month legislation wise. Although I'm not so sure if there's anything big about National Adoption Month, which is the month of November. National College Application Month! Wow! What an insight! Isn't this the month when everyone applies? Yeah, but these are for college applications for next year. Huh.

07:35 Because the college is in session, so you wouldn't apply now, right? I don't know. Let me see what the president... No, you wouldn't. So you... All right, let's see what the president says. This is what it's come to. They made these kids, besides breaking them financially, now to get into these colleges, you have to apply... A year early. A year early and hope for the best, and then later you apply, the less chances you have, and so you end up going to some school you didn't want to go to. It's horrible. And going back to Roosevelt's military-industrial complex speech, which you've always said, originally the draft stated military-industrial-academic complex. Yeah. So let's see, our nations, as the president, was built on the idea that no matter where you come from or what you look like, you can make it if you try.

08:24 Yeah, we're a sliced stone when we need it Good one nice reference Expanding access to affordable higher education is key to safeguarding this ideal a college degree is the surest ticket to the middle class What a statement This is the proclamation This is the official crap. What a thing to say. I'll reread. A college degree is the surest ticket to the middle class. Yes, you too can be mediocre, my friend. Jeez. And broadening paths to education so more people have the chance to earn post-secondary degrees and credentials is the best way to make sure all our people can contribute to writing our country's next great chapters.

09:07 During National College Application Month, we pledge our support for those across America who are taking steps towards earning a degree and we continue our work to ensure all Americans can access the tools and resources necessary to make informed decisions about college. Okay, so this is what I do. My administration has made it a priority to equip Aspiring college students and their families with data on college costs, value, and admissions so they can make choices that are right for their futures and their budgets. Slavery. What kind of slave do you want to be? Long-term slave? Big-time slave? Medium slave? No matter what slave you're going to the middle class! Isn't that sad?

09:46 I thought you the middle class you guys the same guy who said Just getting by is the American dream man. I wish you'd look that one up Getting by I'm sure we have it somewhere Obama Just getting by how old was that there's about three years ago hmm Yeah, I may not have any. It was a reference to... Yeah, you know we should actually, I should have that one handy. I'll look for that, make sure I have it for the next show. Anyway, let's move on from National College Application Month to National Apprenticeship Week. Well this is interesting.

10:32 At the heart of our nation's promise lies a simple truth. It sounds very much like the one we just read. If you work hard, you can get ahead, earn a decent paying job, and secure a brighter future for yourself and your family. To make this promise real, our economy has to work for everyone. And that begins with providing all our people with the tools and resources they need to utilize their unique talents to contribute to our country's success. Oh, this is if you're below college material. So this is a straight into the poverty class, I guess. During the golden days of apprenticeship. Well, here it is. During National Apprenticeship Week, we recognize the ways apprenticeships foster innovation and prosperity, and we recommit to encouraging and supporting those who offer and partake in them. The only way you can get an apprenticeship now is you have to move to China. 87% of apprentices find employment after completing their program, and their average starting wage is above $50,000.

11:28 Let's burn the college grads. Yeah, yeah. When you think about it, you can get a job for maybe $65,000, but you're paying $700 a week, a month on loans. Here, National Diabetes Month. Actually, I think if you do the average income of a recent college grad, I don't think it's that high. Really? That's sad. Well, it is also National Military Family Month. National... of course it has to be that because we're going to be sending more of our children off to sand. So, hey family, here's a month for you while we take your fathers, husbands, sons, daughters, mothers, wives and send them off to Syria. Suckas. Talk about that next. Yeah, National Native American Heritage Month. That means Elizabeth Warren would probably be registering for a run. Yeah, she'll be all in on that one. Yeah, Pocahontas.

12:24 It is National Alzheimer's Disease Month. And then finally, and this is the one that... What was that again? National Alzheimer's Disease... Yeah, the fucking... I was thinking I could make the punchline, but you slid it by me. I didn't even realize. Very good. And then finally, by the President of the United States of America proclamation, our nation's critical infrastructure is central to our security and essential to our economy. Technology, energy and information systems play a pivotal role in our lives today. And people continue to rely on physical structures that surround us, from roadways and tunnels, to power grids and energy systems, to cyber security networks and other digital landscapes. It is crucial we stay prepared to confront any threats to America's infrastructure. During Critical Infrastructure Security and Reliance, a resilience month,

13:19 We re-dedicate ourselves to safeguarding our infrastructure by staying attentive, alert, and ready to spawn to respond to any threats towards our homeland and our assets. And this of course comes right in time for... Wait, wait, it says homeland and assets? Yes. What does that mean? Towards our homeland and our assets. I think our assets are assets anywhere, not necessarily in the homeland. Ah, I see. It's some overseas thing. So ensuring a country has a secure and stable infrastructure is essential to our national security efforts. Let's see what else. Well, this makes nothing but sense. In fact, I saw that we now have the cybersecurity strategy in place.

14:03 The new CIO, the federal CIO Tony Scott has unveiled this new strategy and it's pretty much we're going to now have a new agency. What is the name of this age? Oh, it's okay. We have more like a concept called CSIP. You better, these guys better come up with some better acronyms. That's the Cybersecurity Strategy and Implementation Plan. that defines a major cybersecurity breach, directs agencies to report such breaches. So there's a lot of process in there. It's a $50 billion plan we're rolling out. But the way I read it, it's kind of going to wrap around everybody else's cyber-security. This is Einstein 3A will now be implemented. Whatever the heck that is. Einstein. This...

15:02 Here we go. Rolling out Einstein 3A to all agencies by the end of 2015. A government-wide cyber incident response. If something happens within any department of the government that is a breach, they have to report to Congress within seven days. But really it's going to be a centralized buying portal. They have to report it to Congress within seven days? That country could be decimated in seven days if it was a real cyber attack. I know, but that's... I'm just... And shouldn't they have to do it within an hour? No, I'm just telling you what it says. All right. Seven days. But really, they're going to build this CISP... KISP, what's it called? KISP. No, CISP. C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-

15:58 Prioritize identification and protection of high-value assets and information, timely direction and of and rapid response to cyber incidents, so they'll be the rapid response team. It's gonna be a cluster, you know what. Rapid recovery from incidents when they occur and accelerated adoptions, recruitment and retention of the most highly qualified cybersecurity workforce talent. They can't get these people to work for them, A, and if they would work for them, they wouldn't get in because of their background check. Yeah. You know, really, when I think of all the systems that are in place and how, you know, I guess in the UK now, the talk talk

16:37 talk talk internet service provider. They had a hack and 4 million user or customer records were stolen or exfiltrated. It turns out some 15 year old script kitty. I mean really what people understand is that Once we get this Internet of Things, whatever that's going to be integrated, that is the final piece of this global Rube Goldberg machine that we call the Internet. Because it's really true. Shit is bootstrapped onto bootstraps, onto hacks, onto, you know, into things that have been kind of working for years. This does not bode well. Where the hell was Kaczynski's new book? I can't wait for it. That's going to do a world of good.

17:24 Today theodore kaczynski crackpot murderer Wrote another book or wrote a book. I wrote the first one, but yeah, that's a huge impact huge impact Anyway, so that's that is it so we can look forward to lots of cyber stuff going on this month along with sisa the cyber... uh... There's so much for the internet's ability to stop these things from being implemented. Oh, we live in horrible times. We really do. The internet has only made propaganda and other bullcrap that much easier. Witness the... If Dickens was alive today, it would be, it was the worst of times and the worst of times. And the outlook was not bright. It was dark. You know, but witness what happened with this Russian

18:17 Metro jetliner coming down. Which I can't really say too much about because we really just don't have much information. But the first thing that happens is Rita Katz from the Site Intelligence Group... the frustrated Iraqi Jew who... Oh, that's where that came from. That's where the tweet came from. She discovered the tweet that ISIS said they had brought this down with a bogative video, which I think, that video must have been 10 or 12 years old, of the plane blowing up in the sky. I had somebody tweet me about this. They said something about, oh, and I said, yeah, this was... Wait, was that the actual tweet?

18:56 Yes, I said this makes nothing but sense. They're getting their asses handed to them by Russian fighters and even our, you know, our jets coming in and they can't, they don't want to bother to shoot them down. No, of course not. Why? But they'll shoot down some, some airliner at 31,000 feet. 31,000 feet, sure. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. But I can say that, um, something obviously happened. You're just looking at the data. Well, I have the plane wreck background here you can play. Okay. That's good. Good evening, we begin tonight with yet another tragedy in the skies. This time a Russian plane crashed in Egypt, claiming the lives of all 224 people on board. Most of the passengers were Russians, 25 were children. They had just departed the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh when the plane went down

19:43 23 minutes after takeoff. Russian President Vladimir Putin has declared tomorrow a day of mourning as investigators comb through the wreckage, recovering the bodies and looking for answers. NBC's Bill Neely starts us off tonight from Cairo. In a barren desert, the mangled remains of a plane that was carrying 224 people. Their clothes scattered, their cell phones ringing in the debris. No one survived to answer. I thought this guy was over-dramatizing it. Yeah, I've heard similar reports where the phones were just on the ground ringing. Somehow, yes. Obviously they weren't iPhones that had been broken.

20:27 The only guy, they did bring a guy on this who seemed like something of an expert. Here's the little commentary you can play, it's not that long. Cox, I mean it was part of a long spiel. Cox says stall. And Captain Cox, we've also learned the plane slowed down dramatically before the crash. What does that tell you along with the images that you've seen of the wreckage, those horrible images? Well, the information that the airplane sent down to the ground shows that the airplane descended and also slowed down quite a bit. It would be consistent with a stall and that's certainly something that the investigators are going to look at very, very closely. And that is borne out to some degree by the pictures that are first coming out of the desert is that the type of

21:14 of impact damage done to the aircraft is consistent with it being at a relatively low speed. So these are bits of circumstantial evidence that the investigators will use. Thank you for your insights, Captain John Cox. We appreciate it. Now, this is irksome. Well, it might be. But earlier in the report, you can tell me why in a second. But earlier in the report, they did hit because this was again, you know, these guys, they milk this stuff. They mentioned that the crew or somebody on the plane was, oh this is bullcrap too probably, that they were bitching about the motors having trouble with the engines, like weeks earlier. Yeah, I read things that this aircraft had a hard landing in the early 2000s, there's a million different things, but what this general, is he a general, a colonel, what was he?

22:02 I'm not sure what he because when we talk about a stall in aviation that is not an engine stall like in your automobile it is it means that you were did not have enough forward airspeed to provide lift and I think what he's saying is because the this the beginning part of the whatever the emergency or the the incident started the debris field was not you know not an incredible distance from that point, meaning that there was not a lot of forward airspeed. But, you know, if you have a stall and, you know, the only thing you have to do there is point the nose down and if your aircraft is intact, you know, it will fly. And you could, from 31,000 feet, you could probably float for, or glide for 20 minutes, I'd say, in an aircraft like that. So, I think the only thing that could have happened here is that the aircraft, it broke up.

22:59 at that altitude and then whatever piece was still functioning for sending off the ADS-B data That was showing it was just floating down to earth pretty much. But it, you know, it's six, you know, I think it was five and a half thousand feet per second per minute. No, something happened. There was structural damage and the thing broke apart before it came down. An old jet. The Russians are not. No, no, you can't say it's an old jet. An Airbus 321. It's not. It's a fine aircraft. Doesn't matter how old it is. Does not necessarily matter. Yeah, I agree. But the Russians aren't the biggest at maintenance.

23:36 It doesn't have a horrible... Yeah, but this thing, the structural airframe, if that broke up, then that's not just a maintenance issue. That's something else. Well, you think there was a bomb in the plane? Possibly. There is some talk of, you know, they say catastrophic decompression. You said that. I haven't heard that. Well, I'm an aviator, so I look around and I read different opinions. And that was so there's there is a theory that because of a hard landing and the way that was fixed in a particular manner with the Bondo with the rear yeah with caulk caulking gun

24:17 Bondo is that the stuff you put what is the what is the stuff you put on your exhaust gum gum remember that stuff? No, that's something else bondo is the stuff you should it's always a good bondo Bondo is this crap that is like like a goo and you if you have a dent in your car instead of getting the dent fixed Yeah, you you cover with bondo and then kind of it turns into this hard rock and then you sand it down So no one notices Okay, no running joke so when we have some flight data recorder data if we ever get it, you know, then then I'll be able to Say more. I'm gonna be annoyed if we get it within 30 days. Yeah, it's gonna make why did it take so long with the other one? Well, we haven't still haven't gotten that raw data Yeah

25:01 Okay, we had... We do know one thing, it wasn't an ISIS missile. No, that's... no, no, no. But, you know, for all intents and purposes, except for the, you know, the lack, I guess what we've seen so far, the lack of shrapnel. It was pretty much the same as MH17. You know, we have no more additional data. There's no proof, there's no video, there's no radar data that has been released publicly or even used in the Dutch report about MH17. So we really know just as much about this aircraft, except we don't see, we don't know if there's any shrapnel damage. Which would be evident if there was a bomb shrapnel going outward, if it was a buk or something, it would be shrapnel going inward, so... It's always the buk. Yeah. Okay, so we do have a situation as we discussed on the show on Thursday.

25:53 Now it's out, we're putting boots on the ground, the president kind of can't hide it anymore. Everyone's kind of understanding that this is going against... Well actually, let's play the president who was very clear. I'm not the only one who's put this together. This is, I think, I even saw CNN do a compilation like this. I do not foresee a scenario in which boots on the ground in Syria, American boots on the ground in Syria, would not only be good for America but also would be good for Syria. I will not put American boots on the ground in Syria. I will not pursue an open-ended action like Iraq or Afghanistan. With respect to the situation on the ground in Syria, we will not be placing US ground troops to try to control the

26:51 areas that are part of the conflict inside of Syria. The resolution we've submitted today does not call for the deployment of U.S. ground combat forces to Iraq or Syria. Okay. I think the president was pretty clear. He could have gone on for another half hour with those clips. Easily, easily. And I want to say one thing, although the president used different terms here, the mainstream news media is pretty much only calling it boots on the ground. And I would respectfully request they cut that out. The boots are attached to ankles, which are attached to human beings, which are attached to kids who were sending... I don't care if they're all gung-ho and ready to go kick some ass. It's degrading. Don't you think? To say boots... How about US personnel? Like, our soldiers? Well, I never thought of it that way. It's disgusting. But then again, if you see a video clip and there's just a bunch of boots laying around... Well, then I'll give it. Okay, so now for...

27:52 Three years maybe even longer that we've always laughed about the advisors its advisors are in there And you know which doesn't really go, but that's harking back to the Vietnam War Please do that's how that started was it with advisors as we literally called and I have the same sort of people the Rangers and the special forces so I thought one of the best even though it's not quite as funny as some other clips I have, when we had Jim, whatever his name, from CNN grilling Josh Earnest. And remember these spokeshole sessions, the briefing sessions, they're scripted.

28:31 Josh Earnest knows what questions he's going to get. They're all submitted beforehand. There may be some variations or some follow-up that he's not ready for, but this was pretty much scripted. So Jim does his job asking about what exactly is this and how is it different from no boots on the ground? What are advisors? How does it work? Which is this president, this White House, the officials here at this White House repeatedly over and over again, made it clear to the American people that there would be no combat role for U.S. troops fighting ISIS. That appears to be changing. Not only is there this announcement that you're talking about today, which you say they won't be involved in a combat role, but you're not ruling out the possibility that they may be involved in some sort of combat operation. But on the Iraq side, you have Pentagon officials this week saying, we're in combat.

29:20 So you recall that we played these clips juxtaposing the no boots on the ground, these are advisors, advise and assist, and but then the Pentagon says... Advise and assist, that's the key word. Oh yeah, that's coming up. And the Pentagon said, no, this is not... Well, yeah, it's combat, what can I tell you? It would be great if we just have a moment of clarity here and you could acknowledge that yes, this mission is changing, it is not what it was said, It was going to be at the onset of this. I mean, I just think that's very clear. To say that, Jim, would only confuse the situation. I love that. So to tell the truth would only confuse people.

30:02 can't be telling the truth about what's happening here. The fact of the matter is the mission that the commander-in-chief has given our military personnel in Iraq and now and in Syria is a train, advise and assist mission. And we have gone to great lengths to make clear that that is in no way diminishes the amount of risk that our men and women in uniform will be facing. What? We've also been quite clear. What part didn't you understand? The way he, the way he of a mission. Here's what he's saying, we were so clear. Involving US military personnel putting boots on the ground inside of Syria to try to rescue American hostages that had been taken by ISIL. Yeah, which I think failed, didn't it?

31:00 Didn't we fail to extract the hostages? Well, there's I don't I remember I know it's a lot of dead hostages, but I don't know Yeah, I think it did I think it's the one where they had the guy and they have his head cut off So here is the next part. This is all a big propagandistic Move that wasn't but that wasn't the same clip. I was I was concerned about you didn't back up enough or something He said the way he did it was ah, it was almost like it wasn't this but it was just as bad as oh I thought you knew You want me to- I thought you knew that's just what we were doing all along. Let me- Let me- You're an idiot. Let me find the spot that you're talking about. Let me see if I can find it. Hold on. I mean, I just think that's very clear. To say that, Jim, would only confuse the situation. The fact of the matter is, the mission that the Commander-in-Chief has given our military personnel in Iraq and now in Syria

31:47 It is a train, advise, and assist mission. And we have gone to great lengths to make clear that that in no way diminishes the amount of risk that our men and women in uniform will be facing. We've also been quite clear that there actually have been situations... So what is... It was the... it was... it was... it in no way diminishes the amount of risk. Yeah. It's got... that's a non sequitur. It's got nothing to do with the question or the... or as an initial commentary. No, only with the spin. It's only the spin that he's trying to... It's ridiculous. These guys are full of crap. Well, it gets better. I have the overall, for anyone who doesn't know it, the overall report, or the intro to the report, which was done on the BBC. I got it from all the three by threes, but the BBC I thought had a pretty good boots on the ground

32:35 summary of what's going on for people who really don't know. Well, the decision came as the US Secretary of State joined with his counterparts from Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran and other nations in Vienna to work on a diplomatic solution to end the fighting in Syria. The BBC's Nick Bryant reports. American special forces in action in Iraq. Dramatic helmet cam footage. This was played, this dramatic helmet cam footage, which could be from anywhere, was used over and over again. Showing how they rescued hostages during this recent raid on an Islamic State prison.

33:27 But today, a major shift in US policy. The announcement that for the first time since the Civil War began there four and a half years ago, American boots will now be on the ground in Syria. The president does expect... Can I stop it there? Yes, fine. I think maybe troops on the ground, hearkening back to your earlier complaint, troops on the ground I think would be better than boots on the ground. It's you know, I just find it insulting. It's just I know what you're saying I never thought of it, but you're right I can see what your perspective is and I think it probably is insulting is it's marginalizing that these are actual human beings Yes, yeah now before you go on I just wanted one more little piece of clarification Because they keep talking about the boots on the ground in Iraq and we keep thinking that it's the same old same old No, they've had all along. Nope when it turns out that we we've done kind of the same thing unannounced in Kurdistan and

34:24 And this came up on CBS when one of their reporters, and let's see, I'm trying to look for the clip. It's probably troops in northern Iraq, I'm guessing. Yeah, that one. One of the reporters, one of the female reporters is floating around. She runs into this by accident and nobody wants to talk about it, but they ran it as a story right in front of a Mike Morrell interview. Now, that is Syria, but US Special Operations Forces are already on the ground advising and assisting Kurdish fighters. I'm going to stop you here. I don't want to come back to this because that's the next part of where I want to take this. So I'm going to come back to this clip in a minute. First, let's stay with what these boots are actually going to be. This is former Navy SEAL Chad Williams, who

35:17 has written a book. I can't, he's on the speaker circuit. I can't see if he's tied into the mercenaries in the United States or what he calls the, well, some community of badasses. But listen to him explain what assist means and just listen to the veracity of him. I think that it's a great call. You know, the head of our enemy, the snake, it's in Syria. And so we need to go over there and put a foot to that head. And I guarantee you, none of our guys in the special operations community are walking around with their tail between their legs. They're very hungry to get over there. I'm sure they're saying, thank you, sir. May I have another? There's a thousand other special operators that are just hoping that the chains will be cut

36:04 and they could be sent over there to help advise and assist and put a heel to the head of that snake in Syria. Alright, so our special forces, they're mighty men, they're ready to roll over. They're mighty men ready to roll, John! Mighty men ready to roll. Let me ask you about the language, you know, the notion of advising and assisting. It's like a comic book character. Oh, it gets better. It's like, mighty men ready to roll. We're kicking ass, America. Unshackle the chains, we go in and kick the head off the snake. Versus combat. To you, is there a difference? It is a combat role, but it's not going to be American forces on the very front in the spotlight. We're going to be working a little bit more in the shadows. In the shadows? We're there in case these guys get into a situation where we need a little bit of backup. We're there to assist them. This is such a great way to say it. Hey, when those stupid ass guys get into trouble, you know. There's a need for a rescue mission. When the world is threatened, the world needs help. Calls on America.

37:03 And that's the story. Where we need a little bit of backup, we're there to assist them. That's the assistance part of these advise and assist operations. But primarily it's going to be led by these resistance fighters and we're there just to support... Resistance spiders? Hold on a second. Did he say resist... I didn't hear that before. Did he say resistance spiders? Yeah, he said resistance fighters. Oh, I said spiders. Oh fight. Okay to be led by these resistance fighters And we're there just to support them advise them and teach them how to take the fight to the enemy It's a very fierce enemy. I mean Isis is evil. Let's not forget the beheadings the burning of the drain Ian pilot Oh sounds like propaganda. Here you go Oh the burning of the pilot all the phony baloney videos so many others bearing these children so our mighty men are valiant

37:53 are going over there for a righteous cause. Our mighty men of valor. Wait, you didn't get the whole sentence. Our mighty men of valor are going over there for a righteous cause. Let's listen to it again. It's almost like a crusade, isn't it? Very fierce enemy. I mean, ISIS is evil. Let's not forget the beheadings, the burning of the Jordanian pilot and so many others, burying these children. What children were buried? I don't know. So our mighty men of valor are going over there for a righteous cause. Our mighty men of valor are going there for a righteous cause. Haven't Obama bought dinner Monday night? Oh. I'm gonna try that one out. You know, our mighty men of valor are going over there for a righteous cause. Okay. Let's see how it works. Yeah, you could, that's a good little line. It's a good line. It's memorable. How mighty are the Kurds? How mighty are the Kurds versus our mighty men of valor? Hello! What is going on here?

38:43 This conversation is out of control. The mighty men of valor. Well, how about the mighty men of the Kurds over there? How mighty are the Kurds who will... John, I think we should be the mighty men of media deconstruction. Our mighty men of valor of media deconstruction are on the path. ...be partnering with to defeat ISIS. What do you know about them? Because I've heard described different ways. Well, I've worked with them before. These are the kinds of guys that will not back down. And so I'm glad that we have them. They're not the types that will abandon their post. And so I'm happy. These guys are hungry and thirsty. They're good sled dogs. They're there to give their master a good run. Hold on a second. They're good sled dogs. This guy's great. Is he dynamite? They're good sled dogs ready to give their master a good run. I guess that would mean...

37:53 are going over there for a righteous cause. Our mighty men of valor. Wait, you didn't get the whole sentence. Our mighty men of valor are going over there for a righteous cause. Let's listen to it again. It's almost like a crusade, isn't it? Very fierce enemy. I mean, ISIS is evil. Let's not forget the beheadings, the burning of the Jordanian pilot and so many others, burying these children. What children were buried? I don't know. So our mighty men of valor are going over there for a righteous cause. Our mighty men of valor are going there for a righteous cause. Haven't Obama bought dinner Monday night? Oh. I'm gonna try that one out. You know, our mighty men of valor are going over there for a righteous cause. Okay. Let's see how it works. Yeah, you could, that's a good little line. It's a good line. It's memorable. How mighty are the Kurds? How mighty are the Kurds versus our mighty men of valor? Hello! What is going on here?

38:43 This conversation is out of control. The mighty men of valor. Well, how about the mighty men of the Kurds over there? How mighty are the Kurds who will... John, I think we should be the mighty men of media deconstruction. Our mighty men of valor of media deconstruction are on the path. ...be partnering with to defeat ISIS. What do you know about them? Because I've heard described different ways. Well, I've worked with them before. These are the kinds of guys that will not back down. And so I'm glad that we have them. They're not the types that will abandon their post. And so I'm happy. These guys are hungry and thirsty. They're good sled dogs. They're there to give their master a good run. Hold on a second. They're good sled dogs. This guy's great. Is he dynamite? They're good sled dogs ready to give their master a good run. I guess that would mean...

39:32 are boots are the master is that what he said these guys are hungry thirsty they're good sled dogs they're there to give their master a good run as well who's the master is that their master the mighty men are the masters yeah i was talking to a green beret earlier in the week and he said to me you know brook obviously we need to go in Who is this woman? Why is she all in on this? Why doesn't she question some of these comments? Because she's Brooke. She's hot looking. She's got beautiful curls in her hair. Let her be. I like her. She's cute. I do not like her. Hey, listen. Do you like the show? Do you like how we're unpacking this? You gotta love Brooke for that.

40:13 And when she's talking mighty men of valor. And so I'm happy these guys are hungry and thirsty. They're good sled dogs. They're there to give their master a good run as well. You know, I was talking to a Green Beret earlier in the week and he said... I was hanging out with a Green Beret at the bar. ...to me, you know, Brooke, obviously we need to go in boots on the ground, but we need to leave a light footprint. A light footprint for the boots on the ground. This is like going to the cliche city. This is CNN, right? Yeah. Yeah, well, that's why I watch CNN because they, you know, when Barbara Starr comes on, she's taking her marching orders from the Pentagon and she just reads whatever's necessary. But I love this. I think we'll see this. I think they're going to have a little, I personally, since nobody watches CNN except you and maybe a few other people, I honestly, and I think that the Pentagon or somebody is directing this. I'm not totally convinced that at this point that this is going to go over with the American public.

41:08 You know, trying to gloss it over that guy after all is all well You will never have boots on the ground never have boots on the ground never have boots on the ground now We got boots on the ground if you think in and anyone who's old enough I would put myself in that category Remember, this is the way the Vietnam War started if you think for one minute. Oh that Brooke on CNN is going to mention any of this, you're wrong. Because we, this is the whole point of this clip, we paper that over with mighty men of valor going to kick some ass. We'll help them. Yeah, we'll get the sled dogs to mush and we'll kill them too. We Iraq! We're America! That people respond to that. We have big football games coming up. We got big football games coming up this, uh, for Thanksgiving. What are we going to have?

41:51 America, we're gonna have flyovers, jets, national anthem, military marches. John, what do you mean the American people are in on this? I'm not so sure. Boots on the ground, but we need to leave a light footprint. Yeah, we'll leave a light footprint. I'd love to see, you'll hear this, this is- We're gonna wear dancing slippers? The last thing the United States needs to do is get entangled, over committed into what he called already a quagmire. How do we pull that off? Well that's what the special operations community is all about. We're all about being strategic, surgical, and crippling the enemy. Going after-

42:30 Strategic, surgical, crippling the enemy. This is more those, you know, surgical strikes, like, I don't know, hospitals? After particular high-value individuals and taking out strongholds. So that's definitely our area of expertise. This isn't going to be a large ground force. We're going to take them out in very particular ways. It was surgical. Good point. All right, now I'm going to go back to your troops in northern Iraq, which I'm going to follow up with something else. Now, that is Syria, but U.S. Special Operations forces are already on the ground advising and assisting Kurdish fighters in northern Iraq, and that is where we find Elizabeth Palmer tonight. Liz?

43:11 Scott, we know they're here because we actually ran into a small group of them quite by accident in the headquarters of one of the Kurdish commanders. Hey, hey, where are you from? Kurd. They wouldn't say anything, but the Kurds say they're already an important part of the fight against ISIS up here. Some of them actually live and work with the Kurdish fighters right on the front lines. Others help staff a joint command center here in the city of Erbil. The mission includes target spotting helping to coordinate airstrikes and also going on joint operations Like the raid on the ISIS jail last week that killed Master Sergeant Joshua Wheeler the Kurds say they're hoping for more joint raids like that and also further cooperation Okay, now I'm going to flip over. So this isn't it's actually north eastern Syria

42:30 Strategic, surgical, crippling the enemy. This is more those, you know, surgical strikes, like, I don't know, hospitals? After particular high-value individuals and taking out strongholds. So that's definitely our area of expertise. This isn't going to be a large ground force. We're going to take them out in very particular ways. It was surgical. Good point. All right, now I'm going to go back to your troops in northern Iraq, which I'm going to follow up with something else. Now, that is Syria, but U.S. Special Operations forces are already on the ground advising and assisting Kurdish fighters in northern Iraq, and that is where we find Elizabeth Palmer tonight. Liz?

43:11 Scott, we know they're here because we actually ran into a small group of them quite by accident in the headquarters of one of the Kurdish commanders. Hey, hey, where are you from? Kurd. They wouldn't say anything, but the Kurds say they're already an important part of the fight against ISIS up here. Some of them actually live and work with the Kurdish fighters right on the front lines. Others help staff a joint command center here in the city of Erbil. The mission includes target spotting helping to coordinate airstrikes and also going on joint operations Like the raid on the ISIS jail last week that killed Master Sergeant Joshua Wheeler the Kurds say they're hoping for more joint raids like that and also further cooperation Okay, now I'm going to flip over. So this isn't it's actually north eastern Syria

44:02 of Western Iraq, and I think I know exactly what is going on here, but it will be set up for us by former ambassador to Iraq, Christopher Hill. Well, hold on. I want to interject a clip before you do that because I think it might be it might add to this because you can counter counter what he has to say because we know he's a tool. Yeah, Mike Morrell. Mike Morrell. And this is him right after they did that report on CBS. He came on with his and the way they have to like, you know, he made his own title for the for the network because it's just too dumb to be a real title. And he wouldn't use the word. What is his title now? You have to hear it because it's like it changes every day. He keeps playing with his title. Should be. He just should be a security correspondent is what it should be. But he's got to be this and that senior. You know, as an aside, I believe Mike Morrell's company. Remember, he started some company. He was going to some consulting firm. Yeah. He just got, I think, thirty five million dollars from Kleiner Perkins.

45:03 He did? Yeah, we'll look at that. Mr. Kliner, FERC is doing investing in this sort of thing. War. So for insight into all... That's what all Democrats do. Rich Democrats invest in war. So for insight into all of this, we'll go to Michael Morrell, former number two at the CIA and our CBS News senior security contributor. Michael, how much difference does it make to have 50 US Special Operations forces on the ground in Syria? Scott, it doesn't sound like much, but I think it's going to make a significant difference. He sounds like a woman here. He does sound like a woman. I think he's had a vasectomy. Syria. Well good, so we can't have any of his evil spawn making more morels. This guy's no good. Scott, it doesn't sound like much, but I think it's going to make a significant difference. Sounds like Caitlyn Jenner.

45:49 Okay, I'm not touching that. One is these special forces will be with Syrian Kurdish fighters who are right up against the heart of ISIS geographically. They're up against the center of mass of ISIS. And secondly... The center of mass of ISIS. Nice. The special forces will... Just call it NISIS instead of ISIS. NISIS. I think just as they have in Iraq, make these fighters better strategically and better tactically, help them make better decisions militarily. Now the Russians have troops on the ground at a military base in Syria. Does this increase the likelihood of a US-Russia confrontation?

46:30 Scott, I don't think so. I'm not concerned about that. These Syrian forces, these Kurdish forces that we're going to be supporting are focused entirely on ISIS. They're not focused on fighting the Assad regime. So I think the chances of us butting up against the Russians here is unlikely. Michael Morell, former number two at the CIA. Michael, thank you. And current number one, Douche. Thank you very much, Michael. He comes, they always have to make sure he's at the beginning and the end. he's the former number two and that this is always this harkens back to the prisoner for people who remember that series where i am not a number

47:07 I don't remember that. And, uh, everyone had a number. So he's number two. Number one is the one that runs the place. Well, I'd like to have a conversation and unpack this for you. Uh, so here we get down to the nitty gritty of what's really going on. It's a very old strategy with some interesting twists. As we listen now to former ambassador to Iraq, Christopher Hill. helping to shape the battlefield, and perhaps in a moment where we think it might be right to start pushing ISIS back again. So I don't think it's bad strategy. The problem is that I think the president's going to have to explain how he said he'll never do this, and now he's doing this. And as for what's going on on the ground, I would encourage people to understand that what's going on in Syria is, on the one hand, a battle with ISIS,

48:10 but it really hasn't been a Damascus versus ISIS. Damascus has its hands full with various other Sunni militia groups in the other parts of Syria. What this is is a sort of battle out in the desert involving Kurds, involving some Sunni Arabs to be sure, but especially involving ISIS. So, so far This is not in part and parcel of what we've come to understand as a Syrian sectarian civil war. And I think the big news in that regard, of course, is what has been going on in Vienna. Okay, so what we have here is... Hold on a second. I want to make one point.

48:46 His overwriting theme was exactly the same as Morrell's. Oh, of course, of course. Oh, you know, these are two separate things. Yes, but it is. These are two separate things. This is the old strategy which has been which was put in place in well in recent history in 2006. If you look at the map, the idea has always been to break Iraq into three pieces with the Shias, controlling most from Baghdad. Then we have the Kurds up in the north and then in the west we have the Sunnis. This has always been the plan. In fact, it is our vice president's plan when he was Senator Joe Biden. I call for a strong central government and the Iraqi constitution already calls for a federation that there be a semi-autonomous region in the north with the Kurds and that the Shia have a similar option.

49:43 My call is to give the Sunnis the opportunity to buy into a federated Iraq by providing them the resources from oil revenues, a percentage of them, in order to be able to do what we did in Dayton in the Balkans. Okay, so it's about the Balkanization and the problem is Raqqa, R-A-Q-Q-A. I think. Raqqa is where this battle is taking place and we, our assist and advise mission, is working with the Kurds to drive back towards the West, the Sunnis, which we'll just call ISIS, ISIL, IS, advertising, whatever you want to call them, to give

50:25 the Kurds, that extra bit of huge oil fields in Raqqa, which is all being sold through Turkey, being sold to Europe, it's being sold to China. And of course, you know, when there's money like that, like half a billion dollars a month or whatever, some crazy amount of money, that is what the plan is. The plan is to finally break up Iraq into these three pieces. We've got to push that over. Now, is that different from what's happening in Damascus? Absolutely. Or what's being discussed now in Vienna, which we'll talk about in a second. Let's just listen to the rest of, this is Biden from 2006 again. Remember, we set apart those three separate regions in order for them to have breathing room to come together. So what incentive with a powerful South and a powerful North who are basically independent from the central government do this

51:16 Shia have to sign on to this notion and give up the insurgency. This is a way to end the insurgency. And I might point out... Do the Sunnis have... Yes. Excuse me, the Sunnis to... Poor Joe, couldn't even figure it out back then. ...to buy in. And I might point out, there is no plan that exists now for disbanding of the militias. So you have these massive militias in the Shia area, and significant militias in the So what guarantee do the Sunnis have that it's in their interest to, in fact, sign on even though they may get a couple ministers? Okay. So the plan of running it from Baghdad is, you know, would maybe, you know, we replace the guy who was there, maybe that'll work out. But this is purely, and also Israel in the past year has, the past 18 months,

52:11 has started acquiring their oil, three quarters of its oil supplies, from the Kurds. So there's a lot of things going on, a lot of agendas, but this Northeastern, where we have our boots on the ground, is about, air quotes, boots on the ground, is about the oil fields. Now why do we put these 50 guys in there? This is an easy one. Because they're going to be dispersed throughout all of these rebel fighters, forces, And now we have real identifiable Americans. You know, if one of them winds up dead, it's going to be a big deal. This is a psychological move towards Russia saying you better not try and fire on any of these guys. You know, these what you call terrorists, what we call trained mercenaries, trained by CIA and Department of Defense, because you might wind up killing one of them and then we'll have a real shit storm. That's what this is about.

53:08 Which some are calling using these boots as human shields. I wouldn't go that far. They better know what they're getting into. Then we have what's going on in Vienna. Well, the rationale for that argument is sound because it's only happened after the Russians decided to take action. Exactly. Exactly. And there's been some analysis that indicates that the United States would like to get the Russians into it with As the Newshour had a guy on, he kept referring it to as a swamp. He says, well, if we do things right, they'll be in a swamp they can't get out of. And that's what would be one of our goals. Yes. So now we have the meeting in Vienna. This is very interesting because everyone who's in Vienna is everybody, including Iran now.

53:57 Because we still have Iran and Russia's mission to have the port of Tartus in Syria wide open and make this connection between the Iranian port. What's the port right there on the port? Asalouyeh. That's the Pars terminal. on the east coast of Iran, so that you can actually shuttle that through one big pipeline all the way into the Mediterranean up into Europe. This has always been the plan versus the Saudis and the Qataris who wanted to go from south to north. Or I guess going from Iran to Iraq is kind of, you know, north to south, you know, south to northwest. But it's about competing pipelines.

54:49 So here, so of course Syria was not invited to these talks. And they finally said, you know what? Why don't we all agree that we're going to fight Daesh? Which we haven't heard dash in a while and we've now been trained that ISIS, ISIL, IS- it's all the same thing. Well, it's not the same thing. That's why the names are different. And here's John Kerry using the dash meme, I think five times in the span of 40 seconds. He used the Dash meme five times or so, but his tongue went in and out during this. Oh, he's a complete lizard. Yeah. Popping his tongue out, which CIA, when they're interrogating someone, if you poke your tongue out real quick while you're talking, that is a sure sign you're lying. And President Obama has made a very straightforward and simple decision entirely in keeping with his originally stated policy that we must defeat and destroy Dash.

55:53 It is not a decision to enter into Syria's civil war. It is not an action or a choice focused on Assad. It is focused exclusively on Daesh and on augmenting our ability to be able to more rapidly attack Daesh and do a better job of eliminating Daesh and its influence in that region. So I can't predict what the future will bring. when our policy is to destroy Daesh, to fight back. Our policy to the word has been to degrade and defeat ISIL. Am I wrong in remembering this? I don't think yes. It's always been Obama said to degrade and defeat ISIL, to degrade and defeat ISIL and here carry a

56:45 face lie says to defeat Dash. That has never been our mission. He is to destroy Dash, to fight back against this evil. But I do think the president has made a judgment that I completely advocated for and concur in. It is the right judgment to take on Dash additionally and to bring other nations along in this fight. and every nation in the world will benefit. Let me give you what I think is the best definition of Daesh. Because when using the term Daesh, D-A-E-S-H is how we would write it here in the West, Islamic State supporters, which I think you can say ISIS, ISIL, IS, dislike the term Daesh because it specifically omits the Islamic component

57:40 British Ambassador to Iraq Simon Collis says, Arabic speakers spit out the name Daesh with different mixtures of contempt, ridicule and hostility. It's always negative. Because it implies there's no Islam element to those evil elements. Which, sure, there are a bunch of a-holes who are just going blowing stuff up. Let's call them Daesh because they want some kind of, you know, something to happen. But they're not Islamists. They are not. almost by their name, not Islamic State, Islamic State in Iraq and Levant or Iraq and Syria. So they're not lying, except that this was never who we were trying to degrade and defeat. And so that kind of gives us a reason to be there. It's okay, it's only for Daesh, for these guys, Daesh. But then Kerry has to secede because the Russians are saying, you know, here's what we're going to do.

58:43 We're going to agree with you, we'll fight these guys, but then we have to have a democratic vote to see if Assad should go or not. And you can imagine that Kerry first was like, nah, we're not going to do this now. I'm not very hopeful about this. Democratic vote? That makes no sense. Well, but Kerry negotiated something into the deal, which I think And even the way he says it, he even has a tell in his voice that guarantees we will be able to manipulate the democratic election into ousting Assad. And I guess they're all, for some reason, they're so hard up on doing this. I guess they have their puppet in line to jump in or whatever. They just see no way they can do it with Assad.

59:29 But listen to the deal that was negotiated. We agreed that Daesh and other terrorist groups as designated by the UN Security Council and as agreed by the participants must be defeated. We invited the UN to convene representatives of the government of Syria and the Syrian opposition for a political process leading to a credible inclusive, non-sectarian governance, followed by a new constitution and elections. We agreed that these elections must be administered under UN supervision to the satisfaction of the governed and to the highest international standards of transparency and accountability, free and fair, with all Syrians, including the diaspora, eligible to participate. Oh, wait a minute. Would that be migrants?

1:00:24 Who are the diaspora? Everybody. Which means? A couple Syrians living in Brooklyn. Which means we can go to a million migrants and say, got a great idea. You want to stay here? Why don't you vote Assad out? This is carried. It's a big coup. I think you did a good job on that. He got, he got us to, the agreement includes Diaspora, which could be anybody. It's, it's, I'm sure it was sold as, with, Kerry would sell it. It's not that he's a complete boob. He would sell it as, look, these are the people that were here. We know they're Syrians. They have, a lot of them have passports or papers of some sort. And we know where they are. They're in that long line going to Germany. There's no reason that they shouldn't be part of the voting bloc. Yeah.

1:01:11 Exactly. And they will be. But how will they be influenced? Oh, well, it's the same way anyone's influenced. This is the future of Internet voting. Yes. In fact, wouldn't it be great if they even did that vote through the Internet? That'd be... What a coup that would be. Look how well it worked for Syria. We should do that in America. Yep. So this is... That was good. It's another little step forward in what's happening. I like it. And of course the man in the middle, what's really important to keep our eye on is Turkey, which I think we should discuss after. I thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C!

1:01:53 We'll end the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. Also, in the morning to all feet in the air, subs in the water, dames and knights out there, and boots on the ground, and everybody else I missed. How about what we're going to say instead of boots? Subs on the water. In the morning, everybody in the chat room, noagendastream.com, thank you for showing up, being very helpful with what you're doing there in the chat room. In the morning to Nick the Rat. Nick, good to see him back. He brought us the artwork for episode 7... 6-9er? Which was our 8th anniversary show. And we appreciate his work. There's very little art for that show. It was surprising. I also expected to get some jingles. You didn't get any jingles for the 8th? Yeah, well maybe the 9th would be better. NoahJendaArtGenerator.com. That's next year. Yeah, next year.

1:02:51 uh... well anyway we did have some help for the show uh... came in late we almost got that one of those executives producers at the two hundred fifty dollar level but instead sir sean connolly came in with a uh... donation and of $333. And here's the... Okay, so I had to... I thought I'd put this aside, but I didn't have to look him up again. But Sean Connolly, I couldn't find a note from him, separate, but then I went to look at the PayPal thing for his real email address, which is a little different. There was the note. It was actually in there. It should have gone onto the spreadsheet. Well, you should talk to the back office. No, it's not. I don't think it was the back office's fault.

1:03:34 It just didn't go onto the spreadsheet? I think... let me open it. Oh, must have been a weird character that he started with. That's what I'm thinking, because he used a bunch of plus signs. This is the problem with PayPal. They have Unicode issues, I think. Yes, well this seemed like one of them. Oh, here's... oh, here, whoa, this is interesting. Hold on. We are watching Dvorak looking at something interesting in the wild. Shh, be quiet. We don't want to disturb him in his natural habitat. Okay, I just opened the thing and now the message is gone. Aha! But as I know it's here and I'm just gonna have to look him up by his emails. The Dvorak is stunned as he's foraging for food and cannot find what he expected in his cache. This is funny. This is funny. Okay, let me try this. The Dvorak is going to try a new tactic. Okay, here it is. I'm Sir Richard Attenborough.

1:04:36 Looking at the Dvorak discouraging. Okay, here. Here's the word. This is a I don't know but here's his message. I found it. This is an old message from a different one. Okay, so we don't have I don't remember this just thank you. He says Angus and Johan. Thanks for the best podcast in your verse. Can I and here's what he wanted. He wants a to delicious. Don't eat me. Shut up already. And he wants it for his ringtone. He wants, don't eat me, uh, and what? Shut up already, uh, Dr. Kiki? He wants a too delicious, don't eat me, shut up already. Okay, hold on a sec. Everyone quiet. Shut up already, uh, and a too delicious. Now the curry is scourging for clips in his archive.

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1:13:23 Hey, citizens. Shut up, slave! Shut up, slave! Okay. Show, show. Maybe, uh... Well, I've got a little entremont. An entremont, which is that little thing the chef has prepared for us as an extra. It's a freebie, and it's in between... I have a new... I have a new... Uh-oh. ...segment for the show. Mike could use a jingle, could use something. Okay. This is going to be the ISO of the day showdown. Judged by Adam. ISO of the day showdown. Now understand when we say ISO, this is a television term for isolation. And often when an interview is conducted, we'll have one camera that is recorded separately on the interview subject.

1:14:16 So we can then isolate that later and not have it switching back and forth or other shots These are audio ISOs taken out of something and so my audio ISOs are little phrases and things Yes that are competitive for to become evergreens Okay, you get to pick one or you can take all ISO of the day Let's go with number one ISO of the day so so That's the name of it. ISO of the day. So, I'll set it up then. I don't have so. It's right on the top. Nope. Do you have any ISO of the day? Yes, I have ISO of the day. Oh yes, I do have ISO of the day. So, okay. Well that's okay. You know why? Because the title in the ID3 tag says something different. Okay, I got you. Now, this is our buddy.

1:15:11 The Tyson whatever his name is somebody Neil Neil degrasse Neil degrasse just kind of stumbling along, okay? This is the one you're not playing the right one. This is the one This is ISO of the day Google self-driving car that you played. Oh, geez. I ruined it. I'm sorry. That's okay. You can play that one instead. Play that one because that's one of the three. It's not in any order. I just played that one. I'll play it again. Play it again. It's a Google self-driving car. Okay, where was that from? That was from a clip that's actually I have here. It was a special on KQED local station on Silicon Valley lament about people that can't afford to live there anymore. It's a little documentary was made. I wish I'd ISO the last comment that was made in this documentary where some douchebag comes out and says, people can't afford to live here, they shouldn't live here. But play that Silicon Valley lament, which is you can see where it was pulled from.

1:16:11 Silicon Valley California home to Google Facebook Apple and just about every other tech company you can think of. It's a Google self-driving car! But lately, it seems like the bigger those tech companies get, the less room there is for middle-class families like us. She forgot to mention douchebags. Yes, douchebags. Okay. Well, anyway, I heard the little girl, so I said that's a possibility. And again, this is a three-year-old. Why would she be saying, oh look, it's the Google self-driving car? Oh, I know why.

1:16:48 Because that is the last word she will speak when the Google self-driving car decides to kill the kid instead of killing the occupant of the car Now you can play I saw the day the one so it this is Neil deGrasse Tyson trying to say something So it's, it's... that, so... Oh, Elon! Okay, that's pretty good. That's a good contender. And now number two. Is the, uh, this is, this is from the same show. This is our buddy, uh, Sharpton. Star Wars! Everyone's going nuts about it. Okay.

1:17:36 To review we have so so it's it's Neil deGrasse Tyson or Star Wars Everyone's going nuts about it. It's a close call. What about the little girl as the third one? Star Wars the third one I think I think there's a combo to be made I think the ISO of the day should be... So it's... it's... It's a Google self-driving car! I think those two together make it work. That's not bad. I'll choose Neil deGrasse Tyson. Okay. I think he's better, because it would be funnier if Sharpton said something dumb.

1:18:28 You know like it meant star star fleet or something if you just messed it up. Yeah, you're probably right, okay? So I'm gonna put iso of the day into a place where we will keep the isos I like it. We need a jingle and I need to not mess it up. Yeah, that would be you sorry sorry I well this is an unrehearsed show. I'll keep the titles more simple. It's in well. There was a I'll explain after the show what happened It's that's not a title thing um Oh, lip smack. Sorry, didn't mean to do that. I missed it again. I only hear it when you guys... after it's been recorded, I can spot them. Yeah, yeah, it's not good. Okay, so why don't we flow into migrants? No, actually, no, well, let's stick with Turkey because Turkey is... they're in the middle of an election right now. Let's... I have four clips from Turkey. Okay. I have one from the Turkey crackdown clip, which is from last show we didn't play. Okay. You might as well start with that. Okay.

1:19:24 Well, I think that there will be possibly some concern from Washington, but I think that there has been a lot of concern about feeling that the European Union isn't doing enough. There has been this condemnation or words of concern coming from the EU Commission, but this is much weaker words compared to the Council of Europe, Niels Muzynek. the Commissioner for Human Rights saying that this is a sign of Turkey going on a worrying path of human rights. But there is this belief in Brussels that Brussels is trying to make a deal with Turkey over stemming the migrants entering Europe and they are back soft peddling on human rights. And only earlier this week, the head of the EU Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker, said this isn't the time.

1:20:09 upon, using his words, about human rights and controls over—media controls over the media when we're trying to make a deal over refugees. So, Dorian, then, given all of that, what is the—what is the mood there in Turkey? Are other media organizations concerned that they might be next? Well, there are few remaining independent mainstream media are extremely concerned. They're furious. They say this is an attack on media freedom. But they're also very frightened for themselves because earlier this week a senior member of the AKP party, a member of parliament, said after the election there will be a reckoning with those media that have been putting disinformation about our parties.

1:20:51 And I will say as of this moment, which is 1233 Central Standard, no Central Daylight Time in Austin, Texas. We know we're standard now. I'm sorry we fell back. It appears that Erdogan's party has a majority and that they will now completely control the destiny of Europe and the Middle East. They are in the Cat bird seat so to speak. Right and they have already started cracking down on the media that that report there was from the shutdown of one of the newspapers. It was one of the television stations which was run by Gulenists, but it was run by Gulenists. Run by the Fethullah Gulen clan. But not everybody being censored in Turkey is a Gulenist. Let's play the clip Turkey censors and the EU.

1:21:42 When it comes to the refugee crisis, all eyes are suddenly on Turkey. Now, the country is seen as crucial in helping to stem the flow of migrants to Europe, and so the EU is now trying to persuade Turkey to police its borders better and to improve conditions for millions of refugees already there. Now, the hope is that all this stops more migrants making their way to Europe. In return, Brussels is offering sweeteners such as financial aid and starting up again the stalled negotiation process to get Turkey into the EU. A win-win situation, you might think. Well, not quite.

1:22:17 The deal is controversial. European politicians who are desperate to resolve the refugee crisis are accused of turning a blind eye to human rights abuses in Turkey, in particular, an alleged government clampdown on dissent. Levent Özümcü's ensemble are performing an historical comedy tonight. It's about an Ottoman sultan who tries to censor a theater group's performances. Similarities to present-day Turkey are intentional. The audience knows that the actors are walking a thin line. For the city authorities in Istanbul, Levent Özümcü is a public enemy. In late August, he lost the job that he'd held for 25 years because he made a public speech and wrote on the internet criticizing the AKP government. He's pessimistic about freedom of expression in his cultural sector.

1:23:11 The people in charge of Istanbul's state-sponsored theater are slaves to authority. They decide on the repertoire even though they know nothing about theater. I've always expressed my opinion freely. I'm a well-known actor. Everyone knows I won't keep my mouth shut. Who is the guy doing that voiceover? What a great voice. Yeah, no kidding. Hey, I love this. This guy says this famous actor, I guess, has been kind of marginalized in Turkey for being a complainer. But he says, I'm not going to keep him out. So what he will after this election. And so I got two other short. Before you before you go there, let me read to you, as I have uncovered and will be publishing with markups, the EU Turkey Joint Action Plan, which is the agreement that the EU has penned with Turkey. Any interest? Yeah, let's see what you have to say.

1:24:10 Four-page document, everything marked up. Introduction, the international community faces an unprecedented crisis which requires... This is nothing more than extortion. It is exactly extortion and the EU is all in this. I think this is underreported. The international community faces an unprecedented crisis which requires solidarity, togetherness, and efficiency. Love, tenderness, and devotion. It doesn't say togetherness. It's fucking A, excuse me. Yes it does, it says. What was that? Because it's... I'm sorry. Hey man. Tourettes, tourettes man!

1:24:45 The international community faces an unprecedented crisis which requires solidarity, togetherness, and efficiency. I'm not kidding. That's why I said love, tenderness, and devotion. Let's see. Challenges are common and responses need to be coordinated. Negotiating candidate country Turkey... The guy is an Islamist. Yes. Negotiating candidate country Turkey and the European Union are determined to confront and surmount the existing challenges in a concerted manner. Okay, we move down. Part 1, supporting the Syrians under temporary protection and their Turkish hosting communities.

1:25:24 Turkey's making commendable efforts to provide massive humanitarian aid and support to an unprecedented and continuously increasing influx of people seeking refuge from Syria, which has exceeded 2.2 million people to date. Turkey has already spent more than 7 billion of its own resources on addressing this crisis. So what do you think is coming up next? Oh yes! The EU side intends to... Point one. Mobilize in a sustained manner appropriate to the emerging needs substantial and concrete new funds outside the funds already allocated or foreseen for Turkey to support

1:26:04 Turkey, that's funny, for Turkey to support Turkey, that's crazy, in coping with the challenge represented by the presence of Syrians under temporary protection. The funds will be mobilized in the most flexible and rapid way possible, notably through the EU trust fund for the Syrian crisis. Hello, members of the European Union, you are paying, you're paying twice. You're paying for Turkey to not keep these people. and shuttle them off to your country, were you paying for them again? In addition to the funds that would be mobilized under paragraph 1, continue by way of close cooperation with Turkish authorities to provide immediate and principled humanitarian assistance via relevant humanitarian organizations. Here we go. To ensure an efficient use of the funding set forth under paragraphs 1 and 2, the EU institutions and Turkey will proceed with a comprehensive joint needs assessment as a basis for programming.

1:27:03 So what that means is they're not going to give them a big check, but they will sit there and write checks piecemeal and continuing providing assistance. We will over and beyond the 4.2 billion euros already mobilized by the EU. I didn't know that except for that one report that we heard. to Syrian refugees host in Lebanon, Jordan and Iraq as well as the Syrians displaced within Syria with the aim to contribute inter alia to the weakening of push factors forcing them to move towards Turkey. Yes, this is extortion and the extortion is going to amount at least 7 billion euros and only Allah knows how much further beyond that will go. This is an outrage.

1:27:44 Turkey is leaking people into Europe and saying, well, we'll stop maybe if you give us a couple billion dollars or euros. This is insane. Yeah, it's great. Of course, they expect to get into the EU too, but I don't think this is going to happen. It better not. Now, here's a couple of...this is from the Deutsche Welle. This is a German report. And so you can go anywhere in the world and get any quote you want if you ask enough people. But I believe that these two quotes that are in this particular clip are the kind of the mindset of a lot of Middle Easterners and the mindset of a lot of Turks and the mindset of a lot of people who really aren't into democracies culturally. They just never, they're just not. They like the strong government and they think it's fantastic and they, which is, you know, would be Muammar Gaddafi is dead and all the, and the Egyptian guy who was in jail and all the rest of these people that we,

1:28:46 turn over the apple cart on. And this is what I think the man on the street probably does think in Turkey. The government's zero tolerance policy toward its critics and the recent terror attacks have deepened the rift between President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's opponents and his supporters. They refuse to listen to criticism of their leader. Whatever the AKP does, it's right. It needs to regain its absolute majority. Everyone makes mistakes, including the government. The government's critics should take a look in the mirror and ask themselves if they're always right. A government should be treated with respect. This guy should read Peter and the Wolf. And there's the flute.

1:29:35 We head to the city of Edirne on the Bulgarian border, a traditional secular stronghold. Student Kadyr Yavash and his friends are getting ready for another anti-government protest, even though he's still haunted by what happened at the rally for peace and democracy in Ankara on October the 10th. Yes, so the government decided to blow up the thing. Right. No, this is all bad. Well, I have some news from Germany. Things, opinions are changing rapidly as we discussed on Thursday. Now Germans have a I think a substantiated fear about jobs.

1:30:26 The influx is having big repercussions, even on the morale of consumers. Research group GfK says the crisis is making Germans nervous about their jobs. The index has now fallen for a third month and is at its lowest level since February. So people are worried about their jobs. If you look, there's a lot of videos the Germans are shooting and you can hear them talking about how effed up this is and how they're worried and you know the pictures are phenomenal to see these hordes of people streaming across Europe. It's an invasion. Quoted here from, what is this, I'll find the quote, five million

1:31:12 March on Europe. We cannot guarantee public safety anymore. The European Commission had a meeting and they came up with a 17-point action plan, but only for the Western Balkans migration route, which pretty much is nothing other than, hey, we'll discourage them. Hey, we won't take people and dump people off of your border unless we, you know, as we tell you first. We'll try to make it humane, but really nothing about... Oh yeah, Greece has to... Greece, poor Greece. Hey, take another 30,000 migrants, Greece. That's the only... Seriously, Greece gets specifically called out. Take more, take more, Greece.

1:31:55 And then we have Angela Merkel in trouble today. Police said on Saturday that nearly 10,000 refugees continue to arrive in Germany daily. The report comes ahead of a crunch meeting between Angela Merkel and a Bavarian ally on the crisis. Chancellor Merkel will discuss refugee policy on Saturday evening with Bavarian Premier Horst Seehofer, head of the Christian Social Union. Seehofer has criticized Merkel's asylum policy and handling of the crisis. The CSU is sister party to Merkel's Christian Democratic Union and has been outspoken about her open doors policy towards refugees. CSU's home state of Bavaria is the entry point for virtually all of the migrants.

1:32:39 migrants arriving in Germany. So here's the way I understand the problem. The Merkel's party, the CDU, the Christian Democrats and the Christian Socialists. So she's Christian, that's CDU. And she is in a coalition with the CSU. Without CSU, if they were to leave the coalition with a vote of no confidence, she would she would no longer have a majority and she could pretty much be kicked out as chancellor with new elections immediately being called for. So, she has a problem if she cannot keep the CSU in the coalition. Let's back up, because I didn't think about this at the time. We kind of talked...we talked about discussing in detail, but let's back up and ask ourselves, why in the world did she do this in the first place? What was her thinking? I can tell you what our producer in Syria thinks.

1:33:36 And he's, this is sub-70, he's moved away from Damascus, he's now in Latakia, which is really the west coast of Syria. Here we go. Because I asked specifically how about the people who are migrating from Syria? He says, in short, people are happy about it, the government is not, is often referred to as a conspiracy to depopulate Syria or a plan to steal the best Syrian minds. So that is what the thinking is there. Maybe, you know, we initially Germany was saying, oh, we'll take the Syrians. We'll take all the smart people and you can have all the losers. But that, of course, backfired when there was no way to track who was smart and or from Syria. And they weren't going to be giving him IQ tests at the border. Oh, no. Can you see how many fingers I have? What if it was made into a cube?

1:34:29 So, um, and what was she thinking? Did she think this was going to go swimmingly? I don't know. But she also, she sat down with, uh, with Erdogan, with, with the Turkish, uh, leadership and had a conversation, a conversation about it. Uh, she knows she is, she would still do whatever she can to protect her relationship with Russia. I think it's just a dumb oversight because the CSU controls the influx of these refugees, migrants, advertisers, whatever you want to call them, through Bavaria. So maybe she's just dumb. Maybe she just messed up on this one. Well, you know, she doesn't look like a bright bulb.

1:35:13 I don't want to just criticize her for her appearance, but maybe she is just dumb. No one's ever considered that as a possibility. Well, what's interesting is I found a new organization which I didn't know the existence of within the European Union. Surprise, surprise. It's called Frontex. F-R-O-N-T-E-X, Frontex. That sounds like an American name. Well, Frontex is their origin. Fostering the free movement of people has been an important objective of the European integration since the 1950s. Free movement of goods, person, services, and capital were identified as foundations of the community of the Treaty of Rome. That's how we got the Schengen. But all of the

1:35:58 countries that are border countries to the European Union, collectively they have a group called Frontex. And this is, so we have, now we have these centers. It's amazing how much money is blown on bull crap there. We have a Frontex center in Helsinki, Finland. We have the Center for Land Borders in Berlin, for Air Borders in Rome, for Western Sea Borders in Madrid. Training Center for Training, that's pretty interesting. Ad Hoc Training Center for Training. What are you going to train in? Training. That's in Austria. Center of Excellence in Dover. Eastern Sea Border Center in Greece. So we have a whole new group to look at who are having their own meetings.

1:36:42 who could come up with their own agreement outside of the EU framework. It's a fact, this will, we are witnessing some big ass history. This is major and I think we, the Americans have some, this is the F the EU. This is definitely doing it. And I think the EU is maybe, I think that maybe Merkel is a dummy and I think maybe all most of these guys are dummies. You'd think so when you listen to Farage talk to all of them, they're all going, they're all like, you know, looking stupid. So I think that the EU may be getting a clue, and I think it may be an F the US, and I can't find a clip for this because it's kind of under the radar, but it's been played on most of the obscure news shows. They've decided to do a...it's like an agreement, it's not a treaty, but it's an agreement that they will not deport Ed Snowden.

1:37:44 You think that's tied in, really? Yes, look it up. The parliament said, they came up with a resolution. Oh yes, I did see this. Yeah, the EU parliament. Yeah, the EU parliament came up with a resolution saying that if Ed Snowden is within the borders of the EU, they will not deport him. It's not by law, but they just made an agreement that they will not deport him. And that to me, because The way, at least the way I see everything, of course, is it all began with Ed Snowden being given asylum in Russia. And then all this stuff starts to happen. That is the EU saying, oh, you make that happen to us. I mean, it's almost like asking for it. So this is, you know, again, I think we were witnessing the beginning or the beginning, we're witnessing actually witnessing World War III. This is World War III. Don't look for inter...

1:38:37 inter-ballistic cruise missiles. No, look for five million little nuggets of problem rolling into the... This is... It's so bad. And what you get, I mean, if you look at the videos, and I have a lot of raw video, I actually put some of that in the show notes, 770.noagendanotes.com. Now, you'll see that the borders are being broken down at Austria. People are jumping. There's no stopping them. It's like it's an invasion. Yeah, it's an invasion with no resistance. And now you have populations. I mean, there is some resistance, but it's the resistance of the Maginot Line. You just walk around it.

1:39:17 And then you have, yes, and then you have, you know, citizens of these countries, Germans, you have it happening in the Netherlands, you can have it happening everywhere, walking around saying, hey, screw this. We don't want this. You know, hey, nice to know you get the F out. We don't want you here. And then, of course, then you get strife within a nice, because I read the Dutch, you know, media, And then you have strife within countries where you have the social justice warriors going, well, we have to have a conversation. We have to shave them. These are people. And then, and those people who hate the migrants, they're evil right wing crazies. They probably believe in God. Yeah. So just all this. So now you get people fighting internally. Goodbye, Europe. I sent a note to Christina. I said, when I say grab your bag and get on the plane, you don't ask me a question. You get on the plane.

1:40:11 Well that day's coming. Yeah, yeah. And I mean that and they're still streaming in. It's not like as we speak it's kind of stopped and now we have to deal with it. No. But that line of streaming immigrants, refugees out of Turkey just keeps coming. There's another report of an overturned ship. They're leaving a lot of them on boats, any way they can get out of there. And there's another report of a bunch of dead, you know, drowned poor folks from, you know, wherever they're from. And what I find so interesting is, you know, we have 11 million, 12 million, God knows how many million undocumented workers, don't say illegal aliens. And we're looked at as a-holes in America for wanting to do something about that and wanting to, I don't know, you know, build a wall or whatever it is, or fix our broken immigration, broken immigration system. Have a conversation in this country. Go in and separate families.

1:41:14 We know all the memes. Yeah. Well, that is what immigration law is supposed to support, fact. But come on. Well, the immigration laws are adequate. They're just not enforced. Yeah. And this is going to be... What we have is it's been assimilated. It's old. It's not like 11 million just marching in a stream out of the blue all at once. I agree. That's like a big difference and the Europeans have to deal with this this ridiculous stream and people and again I'll bring it up. I hate to do it, but they're pooping they're gonna be someplace and they got the other they throw it up their puke and they're sick some of them they're Crapping everywhere and the end they have litter and they have an imagine the litter and there's diseases now that have not been in Europe in the EU for years decades and

1:42:06 Yeah, the polio overload, the hospital syphilis, the medical system is going to be completely inundated with the socialistic medicine, which is all free and they can't refuse anybody. But now, do you think that this is all our doing? I mean, I have to believe that the United States Atlanticist a-holes, the jackoffs like Kerry, they're in bed with the Turks. It's got to be. Well, I can't say that this, the way this has turned out is exactly our doing because I don't think we're good. No, we're not that good. We're not that good. Okay. That is way too good. I mean, that's like, holy crap. But someone needs to put, it needs to put the clamp on Turkey.

1:42:51 You know, they are, they're receiving all the oil. They're blackmailing the EU with we're going to send these people in, which they're doing. They have the deals with the Russians for the gas. Are you kidding me? And then we have Erdogan who clearly wants to overturn the secular status of Turkey. Right, he wants to make it an Islamic caliphate. The Ottoman Empire. Yeah, that kind of thing. And he wins no matter what, whether the three state solution in Iraq, which means that even though they hate the Kurds, they're taking all the oil. Oh, we'll take it. Don't worry, we'll take it and we'll sell it to the Chinese. We'll sell it to the European Union. We'll sell it to Israel. So, you know, they're full of crap. Finally, I will say yes, I will say that

1:43:45 If you want to know why maybe we don't have our Congress doing anything, we talked about it just the other day. I saw our buddy Mark Hall's documentary, Killing Ed, and USA Today. I don't know if you saw this, USA Today finally Although they didn't take it all the way through to the charter schools. Headline, Turkish faith movement secretly funded 200 trips for lawmakers and staff. Yeah, yeah. Here we go. The group, you've heard of Fethullah Gulen for years on the show. Now it shows up in USA Today accusing the Gulenist movement

1:44:22 Yeah, you mentioned this before because you mentioned Shirley. What's her name in Texas woman? Yeah, it's no, it's not. It's a Shirley. Yeah, sure. Shirley Jackson Jones. Shirley Jackson Jones. What is her name? I hate dumb like that woman. Shirley Jackson Jones. Here it is. So the 200 trips, this was investigated. You know, of course, no one will get here. Congressional disclosure show. I'll bet you. that woman. Jackson Lee is her name. Jackson Lee. I bet you she has... Sheila. I would bet Sheila Jackson Lee. I'll bet you the 50 cents I lost. I wasn't gonna bring it up, but okay, yes. I double up that her house is filled... With Turkish rugs!

1:45:09 Filled. One Gulen group, the Texas based Turquoise Council of Americas and Eurasians, which is mentioned in Mark's movie, sponsored trips for three lawmakers, seven staff members of 2011 filing disclosures claiming it was the sole sponsor of the trips at a total cost of about $54,000. But the same organization filed an IRS tax form that year claiming it spent only 33,000 on travel. Love it when they have the magic numbers in there. With no expenditures for the travel of public officials. So what happens is, Under the guise of, oh, you know, come and look at how whatever, I guess the charter schools were helping, you know, whatever it is, let's go. And I think this is, I'm in on the rugs. And these a-holes all go on these trips. And funded by radical elements, protected by, for everything we know, CIA.

1:46:03 And they just happily go on these little... What the hell are they doing? And what does the guy from Texas have to do in Turkey? You know, what's funny is there's a... In Istanbul, where they have a lot of rug dealers, there is a major, major rug dealer in the large market. There's one of these, you know, giant buildings that's the size of three football fields. That's a marketplace and you can buy anything. You know, they got... Besides the vegetables, you know, these Middle Eastern markets are fantastic. There's a giant rug store and there's one of the biggest. and you go in there and the first thing they do is they show you a, they have like a three ring binder and it's all celebrities and politicians, pictures, holding various rugs that they bought. Oh my. And I'm talking George Bush, HW was in there, is one I remember, then there's a bunch of different celebrities from Hollywood and there's other politicians. And this is their method of confirming that they have good rugs.

1:47:01 That's great. All right, let's you know, let me let me just take a look Somebody should go capture that book that we need to let's take a look where Victoria Newland is because wherever she go actually Victoria Kagan noodle men Where in the world is Victoria Kagan noodle men everybody that's right. Let's take a look. Oh Russia ready to use the Cara Carison Newland form it on Ukraine that will be two days ago. Let's see where is she she well

1:47:37 on a visit to Ankara. She was in Turkey last week in Ankara. Let's see what she said here. This is from Voice of America, which of course is propaganda from the State Department. Well, let's see. What did she say? What was her thing? Of course, I guess that was just there to make sure that everything was okay for the election. Okay, we'll keep our eye on her wherever Victoria Kagan noodle and noodle man is Victoria Kagan noodle men I'm seeing that the house ethics investigators have released their report on improper congressional trips to Azerbaijan funded by Turkey They the house ethics committee has refused to release the report because it has asked investigators to stand down

1:48:32 Ooh. Wow. Now, I got to look into this. I got to find out what's going on. So it looks like they're protecting the lawmakers from exposure that they...and Azerbaijan is a nice place to go. I mean, it's a dynamite. John Maasson Yeah. Yeah, as long as you're not a dissident. Dr. Justin Marchegiani No. As long as you're in the oil business or, you know, or if you are a guest. John Maasson I've actually–I'd love to be a guest of the government in Azerbaijan. Dr. Justin Marchegiani Hell yeah.

1:49:15 But you know that this is just like horrible. But when you take that, when you take these... Probably have rugs there too. When you take these lawmakers who are buying rugs, they're getting hand jobs, God knows what they're getting for all... Certainly Sheila Jackson Jones, Shirley Jackson Jones. And then you take that one step further to know that these very same people are funding 500 charter schools in America. What are we learning? What are we teaching our kids? Turkey's great? Outrageous. It really is. It's disturbing. Well, you know. My goodness. All right. Onward. All right. So we have no solution, but that is a true update, and I don't think anyone can say that they're receiving that type of comprehensive coverage on the basics of this crisis and, as we're now saying, World War III. Yeah, World War III.

1:50:13 I do have one other update, international. I got the Indonesian update. Yeah, I haven't followed this. I'm glad you are. We welcome you both to Democracy Now! John Sifton, in this meeting that Jokowi is having, the Indonesian president is having with President Obama, can you talk about the issues you feel President Obama needs to raise with the Indonesian president? Well, it's too late now, and President Obama already used the clichéd term of Indonesia as a tolerant Muslim democracy. We'd hope he would have talked about how Indonesia is going astray. It's losing some of its tolerant qualities and principles and starting to give too much power to Sunni extremist groups which want to basically make Indonesia a place that's unfriendly to Shia, to Christians, to Baha'i, to secularists, and to women.

1:51:06 Okay, I played that clip before this is not going to work. This is the one place in the world. I think I'd be surprised This is the one place. It's so culturally strong that I do not see this actually working out for the Islamists Because of the women the women part of it anyone who's been the Indonesian knows that the women are extolled and as sex symbols. And they have a lot of soap operas, and this is the home, I said this probably three, four years ago on the show, I discussed this. The Indonesians are the dancers of the world. They are, the women are dancers. And they dance in strip clubs, they dance on television, and they dance in a gyrating way that you can tell that the Indonesians populated the Pacific Islands. Because all these islanders all dance. You shake their ass or they vibrate or they do these crazy things. But in Indonesia... Twerking, twerking, twerking originated in Indonesia.

1:52:02 wouldn't surprise me because if you watch facts it's on television they have at late night they have you know the channels is that point they just have these dancing girls and it is outrageous and it's so culturally important to the indonesians they have these dancing girls everywhere that i cannot see the islamists although this guy's a little alarmist uh... taking over the place because it would because the women will just shut down their uh... they're just no more sex for you now i get that so it strategically indonesia has a lot going on a whole bunch of islands uh... burning fires the fires are all there to by the way it's causing trouble everywhere what fires they got to have two places on fire if you look at the uh... the uh... the islands that the chinese are building in

1:52:57 Am I saying this right? Where are we? Hold on a second. Yeah. Yeah. Which is the... We're on the Strait of Hormuz. Right. And now we've gotten our... That's a lot of Indonesia you've got to convert to crazy. Indonesia is problematic. And now we've got our... We don't have to deal with these Chinese in those islands because we've got our Philippine folks taking care of this and there are going to be our proxies and they're bitching. Do they have any power, the Filipinos? Well, they're just annoying. They got a lot of click farms. They will be complaining a lot and they can do this well with our help. Anyway, that whole area is we need to follow it a little more closely. Well, definitely. I wanted to do a little entremont before we get into our little segment to get into the C and the D block.

1:53:58 But I have to pick up a clip that we didn't play. Hold on a second. Let me just say, I think this is 769er. Yes, we had one of these reports which I happen to know a little bit about. Here we go. Burns on his face, chest and hands. Inside Kendall Regional Medical Center in Miami, heavy sedation is keeping Evan Spalinger a step away from extreme pain. He's my baby. He turned 21 last week. Evan's mother, Alyssa Stefanacci, has been by his side since the accident Monday morning. Evan's sister made the call to 911 when she found her brother in another room.

1:54:38 burned and gasping for air. She went towards the explosion to find him completely covered in black, what appeared to be so throwing up foaming from the mouth. Now a ventilator keeps his chest moving. The blast from the cigarette also burned his lungs. Okay, so I'm gonna stop this report here. This was not an E cigarette. And before you go on, This report is being duplicated all over the country. Oh, yes, and for good reason. Because we need to put some laws into effect. And let us start off by first saying I analyzed the report, I did the research, this was a mech mod. Let me explain the difference between that and an e-cigarette.

1:55:28 A Mech Mod is pretty much a hand-built, although you can get most of the pieces individually, a hand-built vaporizer that includes a lithium battery, with a switch to connect it to a hand-built coil. So people are wrapping their own coils, pretty much making a resistor of very low resistance, somewhere between 0.5 and 0.2 ohms, with cotton around it, and it's called dripping. So you drip the e-liquid, the juice. You drip the juice into the coil that you've hand-built, and then you are pretty much short-circuiting the battery through this very low resistance, and then it creates the vapor. Now, if you don't have enough juice, if you've wrapped incorrectly, there's a multitude of things that can happen to short this battery, which will explode!

1:56:19 While you're inhaling. So this is these are very dangerous devices. It's it's, you know, people who do this take their life into their own hands and they need to say fine, we're allowed to do that in America blow your face off if you want. But the e-cigarettes and the majority of, although they do contain lithium batteries, which I see as a problem, all have protective devices, circuits that will cut off after 10 seconds of use. But we continue to call this e-cigarettes, which of course results in a ban. If you use an electronic cigarette, an important warning. There is a growing danger of them exploding while you're using them. Evidently, the lithium battery that operates the e-cig can be overcharged if you use the wrong charger. Once overcharged, the battery can explode. The Department of Transportation says it is banning electronic vapor products from checked luggage, citing 26 explosions and fires since 2009.

1:57:18 Although there is a concerted effort by Big Tobacco to outlaw these devices so that they will be the only ones who can afford to bring these quote-unquote tobacco products back into the mainstream under proper regulation because it'll take about a million dollars for each device, for each e-liquid, each juice mixture, The Department of Transportation, specifically the PHMSA, the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration, I have the ruling here. I think they have correctly said, you know what? Here's what you can no longer do. You cannot put vaporizer or any other type of products like this into checked luggage because they've already had two suitcases

1:58:05 catch fire from these lithium batteries that are, you know, in mech mods that are just in someone's luggage. They got jostled around, they switch on, and yes, then they can catch fire, explode, etc. Yes, a lot of stuff, electronic stuff, will turn itself on in the baggage. And you are allowed to bring them on board in the cabin, although you nor the crew are allowed to charge them while on board. So one of the few times I'll give the anti-vape squad a positive nod and say, I think you're doing the right thing. But if people are serious about vaping, you need to talk to the, we need to have a conversation in this country about vaping with the vape community. Stop making these dangerous devices, you morons. Stop using them. Stop blowing your head off. You're ruining it for everybody. Well,

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2:00:02 Let me think. KJ6, LNG. Kevin Johnson 6, liquid natural gas. Seven 3's. Seven 3's. What? You're such a bogus ham. I'm a ham. I got you to do it. I am responsible. I consider myself the guy responsible for both a bunch of people I know getting their licenses, which is what you want. And I'm responsible for the development, not the development, but for the fact that the Ham Nation podcast is actually on the air. Oh, do tell. This is... Wait a minute. Hold on. Stop the show.

2:00:44 So stop. So stop. So stop. So stop. You, John C. Dvorak, Kilo 6 Juliet, Liquid Natural Gas, are responsible for the Ham Nation podcast? I believe I am, yes. Okay. Why say you? How did that happen? When I became a ham, it got Leo incensed. So he decided to become a ham after I did and once he did he got into it just enough to just develop that podcast Huh, if it wasn't for me, but I think I think this would not exist. I think he just did it to get free microphones

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2:05:08 He has a douchebag, our Portuguese friend, Portuguese friend has a douchebag call out from Lisbon regarding the Portuguese elections. What happened was the left coalition is anti-Europe, so they were banned from power. We've discussed this, I think. Have we discussed this? Yes, we discussed it. Eurozone crosses Rubicon at Portugal's anti-Euro left ban from power. First, where's the call out here? More information telegraph. It's to FA the FA from Lisboa. I guess that's the party so FA from Lisboa Not really the idea we have some I'm working on a compendium of some Portuguese opinions on this there's some competing opinions from producers about This fact of the left being kept at the euro skeptics being kept out of the coalition. Yeah, we'll work on that for Thursday

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2:11:15 Go to noageneration.com slash rings and Eric the show will be very happy to hook you up now a little call back to F Russia how much everybody hates Putin just in time for Paris the cop. What is it cop 21 now? Is that what it is? The climate session. I think it's COP 21. Time to excoriate Vladimir Putin. I'm Reuters correspondent Andrey Kuzmin from Russia where President Putin has emerged as a climate change skeptic. Oh no! The main issue currently affecting Russia is perhaps the increased frequency of extreme weather conditions. For the past several years we've had

2:12:01 Drods, floods, smoke covering the capital of Russia, Moscow. But probably one of the worst extreme weather conditions this year has been wildfires in Siberia of unseen scale. There's hardly any discussion in the Russian media of the climate change subject. Media's approach is what communications experts call climate change silence. We have reporters mainly... Experts call this, experts who think long and hard about marketing came up with the great term climate change silence. Genius. Climate change silence. We have reporters mainly covering the extreme weather events but there's hardly any debate.

2:12:47 The public in Russia is mainly skeptical about climate change and the causes that lead to global warming. And it could stand at the very top of the government. President Putin has been skeptical about the subject and even joked about it at global conferences. For example, saying that rising temperatures mean that Russians could spend less money on fur coats. So be on the lookout for this meme. Vladimir Putin is a climate change denier and he jokes about Russians not having to buy fur coats anymore because of the whopping 2 degrees centigrade increase in temperature. So just be on the lookout for all these memes just to pile on top of Vladimir. Now this morning I was alerted to a new video

2:13:41 We know Arnold Schwarzenegger has been all in. He has done multiple videos. He's a great spokesman to have. And he did a video with Bill Nye the Climate Guy. And here's the scene, John, because I'm going to play the audio of this. Bill Nye is laying, he's lying down on a psychiatrist couch. You know, one of those big kind of Chesterfield leather jobbies. And he is very, he's confused. He can't understand why people don't buy into the man-made climate change and how we're all going to die. And guess who his psychiatrist is?

2:14:23 Arnold. Arnold Schwarzenegger. And they come up with, because I'm trying to figure out how is this dumb sketch, which is so dumb that even Saturday Night Live wouldn't put this sketch on. It's slow. I hacked out a lot of pauses just to try and make it move a little bit faster. So it is edited. So it's unprofessional. It's very professionally shot and edited, but it's dumb. But there is a point to it, and the point is an interesting way of looking at deniers of climate change. I don't know. I'm just not myself lately. Everything seems so meaningless and empty. Go on.

2:15:10 Well, I know the planet's getting hotter and hotter. And I know we're going to have forest fires and droughts and floods like you've never seen. We're going to have storms and hurricanes and species are disappearing. Sometimes I just want to close my eyes and pretend it's not happening. There. That's better. Maybe I'm fine. Maybe it's nothing. Maybe this whole climate change fiasco is just some sort of scam. A government scare tactic. Yes. Man, I hope so. What's happening to me? It sounds to me like you're suffering from grief.

2:15:52 Climate change grief. Are you ready for it? Climate change grief. This is what everyone who's opposed to this bullcrap theory is suffering from is climate change grief. And that has a logical conclusion. Climate change grief. I mean, that's not even a thing. That is a thing. And you are struggling with the first of five stages of grief. Denial. Denial? I don't believe it. You see, that's what I'm talking about. Here's what I want you to do. When you leave this office, you're going to go and confront denial head on. OK. All right. Session is over. I'll see each other again next week. OK.

2:16:45 Have a good weekend, Dr. Schwarzenegger. Hasta la vista, Billy. Okay. They very poorly executed scripts. Wow. But the point is... Could that be any worse? Climate grief is why people are... So here's the theory. People who are against the theory of climate, man-made climate change, are only doing this because the first stage of climate grief is denial. Who came up with this idea? For all I know the Sierra Club... The science is in! Science! Which brings me to the president of the Sierra Club. This is something I've been holding on to for a couple weeks because it was Ted Cruz at a hearing with the president of the Sierra Club about agro- uh, anthropogenic

2:17:49 climate change, global warming. It was actually AGW, so it'd be anthropogenic global warming. Yeah, but man-made climate change. And I have shortened nine minutes down to two, but really you need to, and it's in the show notes, we have the full video, you really need to do yourself a favor to watch the entire video for what Senator Cruz is doing. is he is trying to get the president of the Sierra Club. Now, give us the background of the Sierra Club, John. Well, the Sierra Club goes way back to, I think, you can look this up while I'm saying this on Wikipedia, I think to the 1800s. It was about preserving the trees in the western areas. Right.

2:18:36 I think it had even some influence in the national, picking national parks. I think... What the Sierra Club does these days... I'm not an expert on this, I'm just ad-libbing. Right. Well, they spend a lot of... They're huge. A huge non-profit, hundreds of millions of dollars. And now it became a generalized conservation, climate, you know, whatever is popular. It became kind of a left-wing operation. And they sue anyone who wants to open a new gas-fired plant or probably even nuclear facilities. They sue them. They're a lobbying group and try to stop anything except their agenda. And so Senator Cruz says the essence of this little piece I'm going to play first is him saying,

2:19:17 Hey, you know, we had this stop. Do you agree that the temperatures didn't go up and we call it the pause? And the president of the Sierra Club who cannot speak for more than 30 seconds without turning around and talking to his lawyers in the background. Well, here's the exchange. Is it correct? Wait, hold on, stop. Is this at a hearing? Yes, at a hearing. Okay. Yeah, at a hearing. You need to see the full thing to really appreciate it. But this is just gives you a general idea of how it went down. Is it correct that the satellite data over the last 18 years demonstrate no significant warming? No. How is it incorrect?

2:20:01 Based upon our experts, it's been refuted long ago and there is no longer, it's not up for scientific debate. I'm curious if, so it's news. What? The president of the Sierra Club says it's not up for scientific debate. Shut up, slave! I want to understand this. I do find it highly interesting that the president of the Sierra Club, when asked what the satellite data demonstrate, about warming apparently is relying on staff. So you... Whisper, whisper. The nice thing about the satellite data is these are objective numbers. Correct. And the numbers over the last 18 years, you're familiar with the phrase the pause.

2:20:51 I left all this in. Hold on. He has to ask his lawyer if he's familiar with the phrase pause? Yes. Every question, I left that in. Every question he has to confer with his lawyers. The answer is yes. And essentially we rest on our position. And to what you said, you are familiar with the pause. So to what does the phrase the pause refer? I'm sorry, you said you were familiar with that term. So I asked to what does it refer? Essentially it's a slowing of global warming during the forties, sir. During the forties? During the forties. Is it not the term that the global warming alarmist have used to explain? I think it's too bad that Cruz does that. But that weakens his argument when he says, yeah, global warming alarm. He should not do that. That is just being a dick. Yeah, I know he should not do that. That's not a good idea. During the 40s. Is it not the term that the global warming alarmist have used to explain the inconvenient truth

2:21:56 to use a phrase popularized by former Vice President Al Gore, that the satellite data over the last 18 years demonstrate no significant warming whatsoever. Global warming alarmists call that the pause because the computer models say there should be dramatic warming and yet the actual satellites taking the measurement don't show any significant warming. But Senator, 97% of the scientists concur and agree that there is global warming and anthropogenic impact with regards to global warming. The problem with that statistic that gets cited a lot is it's based on one bogus study. Bogus. And indeed, your response, I would point out your response is quite striking. I asked about the science and the evidence, the actual data. We have satellites. They're measuring temperature. That should be relevant. And your answer was, pay no attention

2:22:51 to your lying eyes and the numbers that the satellites show. Instead, listen to the scientists who are receiving massive grants who tell us, do not debate the science. All right. So the whole exchange is funny. It's just long and drawn out because the guy keeps denying it. And keeps holding on to the 97% number. Cruz actually wrapped this up on a news show, I don't remember which one it was, with two little nuggets here. He couldn't answer the most basic fact that for the last 18 years the satellite data showed no significant warming whatsoever. He had no idea about that, he turned to his aides every minute or two. And you know part of the reason he didn't know the facts? Because climate change is not science.

2:23:40 It's religion. Look at the language where they call you a denier. Denier is not the language of science. Look, I'm the child of two scientists. My parents are both mathematicians, computer programmers. My dad was a self-taught geophysicist. The essence of the scientific method is to start with a hypothesis and then look to evidence to disprove the hypothesis. You're not trying to prove it. You're trying to disprove it. Any good scientist is a skeptic if he's not He or she should not be a scientist. But yet the language of the global warming alarmists, denier is the language of religion, it's heretic. You are a blasphemer. The response from the Sierra Club, we have decreed this is the answer, you must accept it.

2:24:27 And so he didn't know his facts because he just knew his religion. I think that's a good point. Yeah, actually, I've been totally in on this religion idea for some time and I think the climate This whole AGW thing is a complete and total religion. And next show I'll bring up, I actually wrote a little thing up on this. Point by point, this is a religion. I mean, they have their Bible, which is the IPCC report. That is the Bible. They have their saints. That would be like Al Gore. Yeah. And Gina McCarthy. Well, the Pachauri guy, he got excommunicated. Yes, he did. But Hanson, that Hanson guy from NASA, is one of the other saints. And you can name the saints. And it's an extremely religious... And they hate anyone who criticizes them. They're worse than the Scientologists, for that matter.

2:25:23 Denier that's what I really picked up on the cruise is so right in that that is not a term of science No, no, none of it is the whole thing is a religion and most of the people that are in it are not religious people which I think it's accounts for a little bit of the politics of it where you have all the climates people the climate warmists or whatever we want to call them. Yeah Very few of them are Christian If any. But people, I believe a lot of people have this need for religion at some level, shape, or form. They just need faith in something. And so you see a very big schism between actual Christians in this country

2:26:04 and people that are all in on global warming. They're just not because that is their religion and these Christians already have a religion. I've got my religion, I don't need this religion. And so you have that schism and then you have the Republican-Democrat thing which is again, if there are two groups you want to sum them up, you'd have the Democrats as more anti-religious, more atheists are in the Democrat Party than there are in the Republican Party. That's just the way it turned out. And the Democrats are all in on global warming and the Republicans are all... You know, if anybody doesn't see this as political, when you see one party pretty much all in and the other party pretty much all out, yeah, you can stay on the other side, on the warmest side and say,

2:26:45 Well, they're just stupid. They don't...but what they're really saying is that they don't have any faith. If you use all the religious arguments against them, they're sinners. The Republicans are sinners for not doing this, being part of our religion, which is a cult of sorts. You know what saddens me? When this chapter in world history is written, And people see what happened here because this will eventually, you know, be written up as a one of the largest scams in history. What's unfortunate is we'll be dead. We won't be around to gloat. That's when I'm sad. I'm really not interested in gloating. I just am. I use a lot of these things as a point and with other things, too, not just this.

2:27:29 But there's a point of ignorance that is like, why are you all in on this? You have really no clue about how any of the mechanisms work, but you're all in. I have guys say, you don't believe in this, and it's always believe in. You don't believe in global warming. I don't believe in global warming. And that's a religious term. So, yeah, it's a massive relief. And we have the people who condemn us for being critical of this. that are some of our listeners. There's not that many, but there's a number of them. They write in, well, I like everything you talk about, but the government, this and that, but I disagree with your opinions about global warming. And it also has elements of a doomsday. All religions have a doomsday scenario. And the Revelations has it for the Christians. Oh my God, if we don't do the right thing, we're all gonna die. We're all gonna die, and we're all gonna be doomed. And may I point out,

2:28:28 The rapture includes huge floods from the sea. Could it get any more religious? Very similar. The earth will open up and swallow you. Yeah, we're all gonna die. We're gonna get burned to death and we're gonna get cooked and it's in a hell. It's like a hell, of course, because you're sinners. And it's just, it is a, it's a point for point religion. That's absolutely true. iPhone schmiphone. All right, everybody. It is Sunday time once again for tech news here for the tech horny on the no agenda show. Alright John, what you got any tech news? Tech news, tech news, tech news? I didn't have any tech news. I got some tech news. Wait, I got some tech news. Alright. And I think we're getting broadened out what tech news is. Play the Chipotle clip.

2:29:15 Ah, nothing like a little bit of food technology news. Health officials are investigating an E. coli outbreak linked to several Chipotle food chains across Oregon and Washington states. More than 20 people have gotten sick in the past two weeks. Eight of them have been hospitalized. Chipotle has closed 43 restaurants in the area, it says, out of an abundance of caution. Wow, this is food technology, food tech. Yeah. Tell us what's going on with this. I have no idea. But it's closing Chipotle's? In the Washington, Oregon area. Dang. It's some contaminated. Dang, dang, dang. Well, I had a couple things. One,

2:29:52 FBI hilariously has come out and said, if you get ransomware on your computer at your company or all your computers or, and this of course is, you know, what happens is your computer's locked up and it says, you know, send us 500 Bitcoins, 500 bucks, 500, well, or the equivalent. So it was a couple of Bitcoins and we'll unlock your, your data. The FBI says, you know, just pay the ransom. It's easier. What? Yes, sir. The FBI wants companies to know the bureau is there for them if they are hacked, but if the hack involves crypto locker, crypto wall or other forms of ransomware, the nation's top law enforcement agency is warning companies that they may not be able to get their data back without paying a ransom quote.

2:30:44 The ransomware is that good. Special agent, assistant special agent in charge of FBI cyber and counterintelligence program in the Boston office, Joseph Bonavolonta said, to be honest, we often advise people just to pay the ransom. Thanks, FBI. Wow. Well, that is the non-clip of the day. Yeah. Well, there's another one. I don't know how I missed that. This is very disturbing. As I have been a user of OpenDNS for many, many years... OpenDNS has been fabulous to, you know, when you have DNS issues with your ISP, when you want to have certain types of SMTP mail forwarding. It has a nice little suite of services, including, I think, OpenDNS is one of the few registrars that out of the box includes secure DNS or SEC DNS, I think is what it's called.

2:31:46 Well, they were just bought by Cisco for $635 million in cash and assumed equity awards plus retention-based incentives. That's disappointing, you know? What would you do? Well, yeah, good point. But it's disappointing. I mean, I paid for the service. Lots of people paid for the service. Now it's going to Cisco? Come on. At least it didn't go to Oracle. No, but Cisco is the routers, you know, they have all the, everything you need to be evil is right in those boxes. So I found that to be extremely disappointing. And then finally, we have a lot of, I know that we have at least one producer working on an Apple TV app, which Apple TV is now available. People are buying it. I think it's a great opportunity to be one of the first in with an app.

2:32:51 And from what I've seen, it's going to look beautiful. So I don't know if it's... I haven't even beta tested it yet, but hopefully... Well, I will say this, since I should contribute to the tech news, it's very disappointing that Apple TV came out and it's not 4K. Yes. What is the problem here? I don't know why they didn't do that. It seems like it wouldn't be that much harder to add that in. No. Like right now right now if you go to the Costco's which have all the Roku's and all this though. It's all 4k Everything's for a girl who came out of 4k, but you go to Costco the 1080p Sets are pretty much fallen by the wayside. It's almost all 4k because the differential in price that it says we're talking tech news the Delta is probably 200 bucks maybe

2:33:47 Yeah, so why would I buy a 1080p when I can get a 4k for the apps man for the apps? Yeah, there's no reason no reason at all And and I'm a little tired of hearing tech horny's Talk about how there is no 4k content. That's just factually not true, and you can get Gravity is has been has been converted to 4k. And the newest versions of Blu-ray I believe should be out by Christmas which will include 4k. Yeah, I mean there's tons of 4k content but for some reason without any actual research, there's lots of them. You can buy your... what is our Grand Duke's Company name again? What is that again?

2:34:43 Well, it keeps, last time it was some, they changed it two or three times. No. And I feel bad that I don't remember it. I didn't remember it the last time. I'm drawing this crazy ass blank for some reason. But they're the ones that have... They got a 4K streamer. Yeah, well, they're the ones that are also converting movies. Right. I believe they're taking the, you know, they're doing deals with companies. What is this called again? Feels stupid. I can say it a thousand times, it'll all come up. They need to have a better name. Yeah, there you go. Yes, a better name would be better. And then finally for dudes named Ben out there, I have been enjoying my Amazon Echo so much lately with the addition of something called the Skills API.

2:35:41 And you can go look for this Amazon Echo Skills API. You can add things, you can add functionality into everybody's Amazon Echo that can do anything you want, like search the No Agenda Show notes or play the most recent episode, or you could even do a soundboard. You know, you ask Alexa, you know, play You Will Obey. So I'd love to see some of our producers get in on that and add some of the... because I think this Amazon Echo has a real future. Maybe not the device as it is per se, but if maybe if they're going to bundle that into other devices, I'm just seeing big, big future for this thing.

2:36:25 Yeah, my son buzzkill jr. Yeah, he loves the same way. He loves it for the kitchen for the timers. Yeah, I guess I guess you can do right. I don't know. But also if you just ask if you just ask her how old someone is, she'll reply. See, Siri doesn't even do that. The Siri says I found something for you on the web. Take a look at this. So that's just a name. I even changed the echoes voice. What is it? Alexa? What's the name of Alexa? Yeah, that's her. Yeah. What was the thing you could say to it to make it play? No agenda. Alexa play the latest no agenda. Yeah, it's Alexa play the play the latest episode of the no agenda podcast.

2:37:05 Can you change his voice so it has a British, a foppish British butler's accent? I don't think so. I don't think so. There's no good in that. I don't think so. No. Anyway, check the device out of hands. That concludes our tech news! The only good phone's a landline, and the phone should be made out of Bakelite. Alright everybody, alright, tech news. I have a little, kind of an Ask Adam thing. You always say it's kind of an Ask Adam thing, and I always have to say, well does that mean I should play the jingle? Yes. So play this and then I have a question. This is these conversations.

2:37:58 Okay, here we go. Okay. Now I'm gonna have to guess where this is from? When did you send me said link? Oh! Oh, haha! This is, uh... I know the answer! Ch-Coach? Coach, coach, coach, know the answer. This is the inaugural podcast by Alanis Morissette. Right. Yeah. Oh, wait. That's not the real question. That's not the real question. Play it one more time. Okay. With these conversations being very sacred to me, although definitely imperfect and not precious. Okay. What is she talking about

2:38:50 Sacred but imperfect and not precious. What does that mean? Sacred but not perfect but precious. I think it means... No, not precious. Sacred... Let me listen to it again. Hold on, hold on. With these conversations being very sacred to me, although definitely imperfect and not precious. Hmm. Hmm. I think it's about juice. Oh my gosh! Can you see that juice? All right, what is the... You are right. Is that what the conversation is? We'd have a conversation in this country about juice.

2:39:31 People should track down this podcast so they can listen to the first videos. No, no, no, no, stop. Do not track down this podcast. Do not listen to this podcast. It will make your head blow up. It is crap. It is a horrible podcast. What exactly was their conversation about? Well, if you listen to the whole beginning, I should have clipped that too. It was about God. Hi, friend. You know, I love you. I love you too. Oh, no, I love you more. No, I love you. I love you. I love you. I'm going to kill you if I if I love you anymore. All right. I have a couple of clips here regarding our presidential election. I'm glad we say this all the way to the end of the show. For once, we put the Americana news at the end. Very good.

2:40:19 And I would say the biggest news is this. Now, the Republican Party is suspending February's NBC News Telemundo debate, the only debate to be aired on Spanish language TV, writing, CNBC's moderators engaged in a series of gotcha questions, petty and mean-spirited in tone, and designed to embarrass our candidates. CNBC said this week people who want to be president of the United States should be able to answer tough questions. NBC News, owned by the same parent company as CNBC, calls the suspension a disappointing development but promises to work in good faith to resolve this matter with the Republican Party.

2:40:59 This is an interesting development. I'm stunned that didn't happen right after those debates. They're not talking about tough questions. They were talking about, we heard it, insulting questions. Yeah. They were just plain... Hey, you know, you gotta be, why is your, you got a booger in your nose. Why do you have a booger in your nose? Yeah, it's a horrible, horrible. And that's NBC, but NBC has been in the pockets of the Democrat party for God knows how long. Well, here is your friend, John Hardwood, as you like to call him, although his name is Harwood.

2:41:34 than his response? Well, I thought Rubio did a very effective job and he, like other candidates, went after the media, which is a popular thing to do in a Republican primary. He and other candidates, Chris Christie, Ted Cruz, they got a lot of mileage with Republican primary voters by going after us. They went after us, A-holes, they went after us. This is horrible. How about Chuck Todd? The media was the opponent, not on the stage right with them, but clearly a big part of this debate. Fairly or unfairly, this is a winning strategy for candidates. Well it is, and Cruz captured the moment better than anybody. Look, in many ways this was a premeditated attack. There had been some leaked

2:42:13 ideas that you know beforehand they were going to go after the moderators and say hey the Democrats didn't get questions like this and they determined this before the debate even started. grab. They said was premeditated. They had a strategy. We're all going to go after the media. Now, when you start asking about fantasy football, which by the way, and I say that specifically, Jeb Bush is the odd man out here. He's the one that took the fantasy football league question seriously and started answering it. He's a D he's a real idiot. He's a dummy. Okay. Now we have something different. Charlie Rose.

2:42:49 Who is stretched too thin Charlie Rose with this Charlie Rose has been my thesis for months on end. Yeah, you are right He has been working too much. He's working too much. He's doing the morning show It's you know, he so he doesn't get enough sleep He doesn't get to delve into the issues and when we think about the Benghazi hearing with Hillary Clinton the true thing that came out that the mainstream media pretty much ignored, and I will say they have some right to ignore it because we had that a-hole Republican who said, well, as you can tell, Hillary's numbers are going down every single time we talk about Benghazi. So they have, so the Benghazi hearings are now, because of that misstatement,

2:43:34 truth, but because of the way it was handled, the mainstream media is like, we're not going to talk too much about the fact that Hillary lied within 30 minutes of the attack. She was emailing Chelsea and other family members that it was a terrorist attack, and then she kept on lying for weeks on end that it was about a video. But Charlie Rose doesn't even know about that lie, witnessed this exchange between him, and he's really going after Marco Rubio here. And he's pissed. Charlie is pissed. But I've never personally... I'm sorry. Oops. Here we go. But I've never personally attacked anybody in this race and I'm not going to start now. If other people decide they want to change the way they are, they can go ahead. Well, you called Hillary Clinton a liar, Senator. You called Hillary Clinton a liar. Well... Woo! Don't you dare call Hilda Hilda Beast a liar!

2:44:27 Well, no, I said Hillary Clinton lied about Benghazi. There's no doubt about that, Charlie. I mean, there are emails in which she was talking to her family and she was telling them that there was an attack on that consulate that was due to a terrorist attack by Al Qaeda elements. And then she was going around the country talking to the families of the victims and to the American people and saying, no, no, this is because of some video that someone produced that led to a spontaneous uprising. Senator, do you know that the CIA was changing its own... Now, this is interesting. Charlie thinks that the talking points changed by the CIA and that's why there was this confusion, but he apparently just does not know that the change came within 30 minutes of the attack while the attack was ongoing. So he's poorly informed here. Assessment of what happened there during that time zone. That's not...

2:45:12 That's not accurate. It was clear from the very early moments after that attack that it was not a spontaneous uprising. It was a planned attack, well orchestrated by people that brought armaments to that attack that you would never see as part of some spontaneous uprising. What was very clear is that from the very early moments of that attack, she knew that it was a terrorist attack as she shared by email with various people. And yet she continued to perpetuate the lie. If you're calling her a liar by saying she perpetuated a lie, Then why do you think she did that? What was her motive? This is a very good question. And the answer, although ours varies somewhat, is still on track. Well, that's very clear why. Because they were in the middle of a 2012 re-election in which President Obama had made the claim that Al Qaeda was being defeated and this counteracted that narrative. So you're saying that Hillary Clinton lied because she wanted to help Barack Obama in his re-election campaign. That's a serious charge. Yes, it is, Charlie!

2:46:13 How can this... He needs to stop working this much. He's uninformed. You're right. He obviously didn't know anything about it. He didn't see the hearings, didn't know about the hearings. No, he bought into the talking points that are put in front of him. He's got some, you know, whatever he's thinking, he's misinformed. And meanwhile, Hillary Clinton has grabbed the bull by the horns and is running around the country with her... Now, I want you to listen to what she's saying, and she's insane. She's now off her rocker and the way she's projecting and how she's speaking, she's hysterical. She likes to scream. Oh, yes. Okay. So here's a little opener. This was in Atlanta. This is a thing, Atlanta High School. Look to me like 95% African-Americans in the audience. So stand on this stage today. Oh, this is the opener. This is the guy.

2:47:07 This is the guy who introduced her, I don't know who he is. Now, what does she then do? For some reason she, well not for some reason, she decides to tie into the president's current mission to change sentencing guidelines for whites versus black. This has been ongoing for a long time. This is the famous crack cocaine versus powder cocaine talking point. Yes, talking point. But when you listen to it...

2:47:53 all very much. I really appreciate it and I appreciate the congressman and the mayor having my back. Having my back now. Oh boy. All right. Someone told, hey you want to be hip with the blacks? Hey say, God you got my back. Having my, but she's so white. Having my back. Like I got your back. Like hey babe I got your back. I got your back. No. No, have in my back. Oh, someone please give Hillary some cultural lessons. Have in my back. Have in my back. And today I'm also pledging to eliminate the disparity in sentencing still between crack and cocaine, which just proportionately impacts African-Americans and puts too many people in prison. We can do coke with cocaine.

2:48:47 That's what the message is do coke do crack. You're not gonna go to jail Now here she is going off the rails. So I'm here to say thank you. Thank you to this university. Thank you to Atlanta. Thank you to the pioneers of the civil rights movement and to issue a challenge that all of us continue the work. Let's make sure we finish it in the name of our values and our love for America. Thank you all. You better watch out. She's going to snort you.

2:49:28 I'm sorry. That's just disgusting. You can all do crack! Okay, final one. Camille Paglia. Ah, yes. Camille Paglia. Who is Camille Paglia? Camille Paglia is one of the leading anti-feminist feminists. What does that mean? Intellectual. She's an anti-feminist feminist. When I say that, people who know who she is will understand what that means. I always thought she was like one of the greatest essayists I've ever read. She is not as active as she used to be, like I'd say, maybe six, seven years ago. And she has... she's very intelligent and very good essayist.

2:50:11 I knocked her, what I thought was greatness down a few notches when I found out that her essay, she'll write like a 2,500 word essay, will sometimes take her six months to write. Well, that is not the same as cranking these things out, which I think is a different, but I've always, and she's a massively, she's a massive lesbian, not big in terms of fat, she's just a major voice in the lesbian community. Do you, um, like what she writes? Yeah, I do actually. Let me see, uh, looking at the book of knowledge, Paglia characterizes herself as a Clinton Democrat and libertarian. She opposes laws against prostitution, pornography, drugs, and abortion. CUT! Paglia criticized Bill Clinton for not resigning after the Monica Luenzi scandal. Ah, that's where it happened. Which she says paralyzed the government. So, but you like her, you think she's a, but she is a Democrat.

2:51:07 Yeah, not to say I'm apolitical. I'm an independent. Oh, no, I'm not saying that. I'm saying it that she, I'm not saying you can't. This is not about you liking her or not. I'm happy that you like her, but that she is a Democrat and you wouldn't expect her to go against Hillary. If you just ask me out of the blue if Camille Paglia before against Hillary, I would be totally convinced she's not a big Hillary fan. Well, that would be a soft expression of what she thinks about Hillary Clinton. Stand by. What is it about Hillary that bothers you? Hillary is a mess.

2:51:59 The way feminists have made themselves blind to Hillary's record of trashing, they were going to try to destroy Monica Lewinsky. It's a scandal. Anyone who believes in sexual harassment guidelines should have seen that the disparity of power between Clinton and Monica Lewinsky was one of the most grotesque ever in the history of sex crime. He's a sex criminal. We're going to put that guy back in the White House? Okay, she this was Hillary's written on his coattails. Yeah She didn't say okay. Okay all that that's too bad, isn't it? But that's what she's one of those types of essayists I mean a lot of people she's not erudite, but she's a great writer And I'm sure her essays on Hillary are probably like real jaw-droppers. Yeah, there you go. I

2:52:55 But yeah, that's Camille Paglia. associate with the medieval ages and not present-day. We're talking about the bubonic plague. You might be surprised to learn that doctors in Oregon are treating a teenage girl with a rare case of the disease that she likely contracted during a local hunting trip. This year more people have been diagnosed with the plague since 2006. NBC national correspondent Miguel Almaguer has our report tonight.

2:53:33 A teenage girl in Bend, Oregon caught the bubonic plague from a flea. Tonight she's being treated at this hospital. Though cases of the plague are rare, 16 this year in the U.S., the disease is common in the wild. The most common source of the plague bacteria is in rodents, rats, squirrels, prairie dogs. If early, the plague can be treated with antibiotics. I'm very, very, very sick. It was a close call for seven-year-old Sierra Jane Downing, bitten by an infected insect two years ago. Today, she's healthy. We were both in a state of shock. Lucinda Marker and her husband John Toll both caught the plague with its flu-like symptoms. What John and I both felt were fevers, tremendous fevers.

2:54:22 aches and pains and an extreme lack of energy. John died of cancer, but Lucinda believes the plague played a role. The epidemic swept through Asia, Europe and Africa in the 14th century, killing some 50 million people. In 1900, the disease arrived in the U.S. on ships infested with rats. Today the plague is still here this summer in Yosemite campgrounds were closed and sprayed for insects a disease Many thought was long gone is rare, but still a threat Excellent there you go now. You know it's still with us. Yeah, I

2:55:03 It's more harem scarum news. I love that stuff on that is correct NBC. All right, buddy. Thank you all very much Tony football should be watching today or baseball or something? Well, the the game the baseball might be a good game to watch the World Series that right now the Mets are ahead that three games to one and so if they win tonight, they'll win the series and it's a Sunday night game or Sunday game. It should be dynamite It's just these two teams are probably the best that have played in the World Series against each other that we've seen for a long time. In past years, the last five or six years, it's always been the Cardinals and the Giants winning it. It's not as entertaining. Okay, so I don't have to watch this? This might be the game. Yeah, I would say the way that the Kansas City team is just a dogged, very interesting team to watch. Okay, I shall watch this then. Yeah, I think you should. Very good.

2:55:58 And then back of course don't stay glued to it. They play too many commercials, okay? We'll do that and I will continue to enjoy my beachfront property here in Austin, Texas. In the morning everybody, coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the Crackpot Condo downtown Austin. My name's Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I will give the report very late in the show which is that the mudflats are still there. I'm John C. Dvorak. Thank you very much. Sorry we forgot that. We'll do another report on Thursday right here on NOA Agenda. Remember us at dvorak.org slash NA. in the world is Victoria Kagan-Noodleman. Yeah! Hey, Kratchen, good day to you. They would actually tell you it's less of a shift in policy than it is sort of a doubling down, if you will. They're really re-energizing an existing strategy, but I think what's different here, to be candid, is the way they're going about it. Yes, you talked about this. Now we're talking about up to 50 special operations

2:56:59 that will be on the ground. But here's what else is different in the announcement that we learned today. We're talking about adding a 10 Warthog aircraft, F-15 strike aircraft as well. Those Eagles get up there in the sky. They're obviously going to be in support of the so-called Special Operation Forces. And we're talking about an additional cooperation with the iraqis so what's different well it seems to me the white house is doubling about it yes you talked about this now we're talking about up to 50 special operators that will be on the ground but here's what else is different in the announcement that we learned today we're talking about and adding a 10 warthog aircraft f-15 s strike aircraft as well

2:57:37 Up there in the sky, they're obviously going to be in support of the so-called special operation forces and we're talking about an additional cooperation with the Iraqis. So what's different? Well, it seems to me the White House is doubling down on its existing strategy. Indeed, hey Gretchen, good day to you. They would actually tell you it's less of a shift in policy than it is sort of doubling down, if you will. They're really re-energizing an existing strategy. But I think what's different here, to be candid, He's the way they're going about it. Hey Gretchen, good day to you. They will actually tell you it's less of a shift in policy than it is sort of a doubling down if you will. They're really re-energizing an existing strategy but I think what's different here to be candid is the way they're going about it. Yes, you talked about this. Now we're talking about up to 50 special operators that will be on the ground but here's what else is different. In the announcement that we learned today we're talking about adding a 10 more long aircraft

2:58:36 Can you see that juice? Get out of my vagina! So, so it's, it's, that, so, so, so, so it's, it's, that, so Elon! Devorak.org slash NA Donate enough to be a knight someday And wash your hands after touching any raw meat I'm Joe Biden and thank you for taking the time to listen Adios, mofo The best podcast in the universe! Devorak.org slash NA