Busted Router

00:00 But Mimi says that she saw a bald eagle flying carrying a small kitten. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora It's Sunday July 12th 2015 time once again for Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 738 This is no agenda Back from the least supportive country of the show and once again broadcasting live from the central storage of all Russian gas and oil Rotterdam, The Netherlands in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where i'm still waiting for the July 4th terrorist attack... ...I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Klemmeklot & Buzzkill! In the mornin'! Yeah, and of course things never go easy when you come back from a little break We have technical stream difficulties

00:47 Yeah, we're still doing the show. If the stream comes on later it comes on. You know what's interesting though? So I'm in the chat room and when you get to our noagenestream.com page that's where you normally hear the stream so it's playing some horrible loop of something like stand by! The show is on its way or something. Doom doom doom doom. And there are a whole bunch of reasons why we can't get on the stream but the snark and unfunnyness of a chat room It's it's disturbing. Let me guess one of the I haven't seen it let me guess one other thing jiggle the handle jiggle the handle yes, of course It's just you know the stupidest times does somebody type in and this particular chat room Jiggle the handle. I don't know if it's

01:37 Is it only our particular chat room or is it... Actually, I've never seen Jiggle the Handle except in our chat room. Well that is yeah of course It's an obvious gag but I noticed that the chat rooms not to chat rooms with comments and comment sites are extremely I think they've gone downhill. They've always been crummy, but sometimes you'll go through the comments and you just laugh out loud because somebody says just the right thing and there's still some forums and some comment areas that still do that but generally not anymore. It's funny you bring that up because during this break a couple of times maybe

02:21 Once or twice over a three-day period, I was like, oh, I'm just going to really follow Facebook and see what's going on. And this Facebook is exactly the opposite It's all filled with, you know... I love you. This is great! My life is fantastic! Look at this beautiful sunset my macaroni and cheese look so good Oh rest in peace oh not another one oh yes take the flag down Yes it just-it's all the same like- Sweetness and light Yeah yeah sweetness and light rainbows and unicorns And its so phony

02:58 Everybody's using that perfect 365 app to make themselves look all beautiful. I don't know what this app is Yeah, we've talked about it you even used it. I have yeah. Yeah, I don't think so yeah We've talked about us the one that Christina talked about but I never used oh I thought you would check that out and not You know that you would check that outside as incredible you can do with it Hmm. Huh? Well, anyway, but it's just opens your fate. Oh no, you know, you put makeup on your face You can you know make your eyes wider anything you want with this app the highest whiter Yeah, I know you don't have a Facebook account But if you look at it is just its everything everyone's all filtered up and ah It's so fake. It's so phony and people are having all these politically correct conversations

03:48 So so it's interesting that you get on the open fora as you would call it open out there Yeah, or the chat rooms. They want everyone's mostly It's kind of the opposite one's full of me and I think maybe that's the reason it's gone so downhill because Everybody uses Facebook oh wait look no stream today due to glitch show canceled I mean, really? Everybody uses Facebook and because it's so politically correct. And I think some of these other things are similar they get frustrated because they can't be honest and so they go all completely the pendulum goes in the opposite direction to just become a-holes Yeah So there is no middle ground There's no place you actually want to be anymore online Yeah, that's true Don't you remember how AOL

04:35 You'll be like, oh we can't wait to be on the internet. AOL is so restrictive you can't publish easy and do anything and now everyone's gone right back to the AOL model it's baffling I tell you baffled and they seem to like it but it's baffling well maybe because not stressful Yeah, I think people don't realize it's actually very stressful because they all feel like... you feel like shit. You see everyone's- Everything is one upsmanship. Everyone's cool life is out there and oh the pet obituaries! Oh man, Mimi isn't good at that too They had obituaries. Anyway, poor dog died. Oh that's so sad! Did you love your dog? Oh I did, my dog... No no it was like poor Mr Snuggles he was he was my friend for 29 years i loved him so much and faithful companion. It's like my husband that son of a bitch exactly who cares about him

05:34 Oh, I guarantee you. You ask any particular...I'll be very misogynistic here but if you ask women about this animal was being mistreated versus how about people sleeping homeless on the street? They'll give me the animal first and guarantee you. Yeah yeah i think you're right Anyway did you have a nice little break John It was okay. I didn't get to LA, so that was a disappointment but i did do a lot of work here and got some stuff I needed to get done finished. Yeah, I knew you hadn't gone to L.A because for some reason you thought while I was taking a break I'm going to be watching all these YouTube videos your sending me? yeah no

06:16 You know what? I'm like hey check this out. Oh, this is good. Oh, this is actually well in the two-hour documentary no It was about some aliens or some crazy theories I don't know what these were but I do know that I'm looking at time seeing who is producing these things This is an hour 20 minutes Yeah Yeah, they're good. They're very good. I figure you're gonna likely look at something that's like a two-minute clip. No... My favorite thing was in the last newsletter. Every time I see this little clip, I can't stop laughing about the poorest waitress? Oh who falls through the window? Yeah!

07:01 I don't know why it's so, and in fact they go you have to almost frame by frame it to see what happens. She gets up she turns around counterclockwise and then she catches her foot on these stupid stools and tangles herself up into the thing as she is recovering from that and as she does shows, as she does so she steps into the same situation on another stool, and her right foot. And that does it now she's completely disabled she loses her balance and I thought she was going to go head first through the thing but she actually took a shoulder into the window You know that is not... That to me wasn't my favorite clip you know its..I like the women hot crazy matrix clip thats what I like The women hot crazy matrix? Oh you've never seen this

07:57 No, I don't think so. Oh man! Yeah, it's how to choose a woman. And you have... It's a matrix! You have the one axis is the hotness scale and the other one is the crazy scale which starts at four because there's no such thing as a woman who's less crazy than four and then you have this no-go zone. Well, you're on a roll today! No go zones. You gotta see this! Anyway I'll put in the show notes So I think we're getting the stream restarted but anyway You know, I realized... Now, I've been to my friend Michelle's house in the south of France three times. Once with wife number one once with wife number two so i was there alone this time but I'd never realized no idea had been there and in an upload situation. Internet in France it sucks balls! It's really ass! By the way this is a video you're talking about Hot Crazy Matrix? Yes it is. Okay I've seen this before just quite funny very funny

08:59 You know, it took me two and a half hours to upload episode 736 and 737. And I thought you know have everything...I'll just whip it together plenty of time on Thursday and Sunday and upload it. Then I'm sitting there driving to other Wi-Fi locations the internet in France at least in the south of France where I was is completely crap no wonder we have no support from France They're barely online. They can't hear the show! Yeah, it's... I was flabbergasted. It's the same thing with Italy. You've been there before? Don't remember. But yeah, but I never had to upload a show and we're talking ADSL at 100 kilobits per second John. This is crap

09:49 So it's not 100 kilobits a second. That's the best speed you can get? Oh yeah, and I went to different locations and was like... My French is not that great! It actually surprises me its that slow generally around there because most of Europe I think and I know Germany has got some quick stuff in Sweden for sure Yep but the French no No, and not at all. So I can understand where...you know just they don't they also don't really seem to care They just don't care so I spent a lot of time reading newspapers every morning again British newspaper Dutch newspaper

10:30 I would read Financial Times, which is always nice. And just trying to get a general idea of what was going on. You could see this ramp up of Greece just the day I left which was Saturday it was just wall-to-wall Greece coverage and quite fascinating what has happened and monitoring the TV right now looks like there's still no deal. You're still in France right? No i'm back in Rotterdam Oh, you're in Rotterdam. Yeah and this morning the minister...the Finnish Minister of Finance now let me see so last night they met until 2 or 3 a.m., they came back this morning at 11. This is the 19 finance ministers and they quit with no deal and now there's going to be a general assembly vote I think and they're going to see what can be done and one of the so-called proposed solutions is a temporary timeout like a five year get out of the euro and come back in

11:28 which seems highly unlikely. It's not gonna work, there are two political reasons that it is not going to work one if they get out of the euro and then actually do well within the five-year period and they do well they kind of improve everything looks better than then the whole thing is just a sham and everyone's gonna do that with Portugal will be out next Well, I mean Dan, but they are Dan if they don't They're certainly not going to get out. I think the guy who quit, the Austin Texas professor... How about that? He gets a no vote and then he quits?! Oh come on! Yes there are certain people, certain elements around who don't want me as part of the negotiations. I'm just gonna stand over here so i don't get any blood splatter on you what a dick Noooo, I disagree 100% with that

12:21 He wants to get out of...he doesn't want any fallout on him. He's still in the cabinet, he's just not the finance minister. You'd want some other guy to take it? No I think you're making a huge error there. Oh tell me! Well tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me. Because he is a game theorist this was part of his game to begin with that's why he was such a dick all the time to make...to draw attention to himself. I mean if he's a game theorist that means he plays games. He knows how to game the system. He knows how these interactions with people work yeah He's and he's supposed to be really good at this right. He would do exactly what he did and then completely pull away from it for the exact purpose that he said I think he's doing everything he did was genius What do you mean for the exact purpose that he said? The exact purposes is the purpose he said was I'm gonna annoy too many people by still being here So I'm gonna pull out of this right now

13:13 And I think that's exactly true. Right? Because, okay...I think that is what he meant to do! Okay but.. He was to create a kind of lightning rod. Everyone is talking about him and his motorcycle and leather jackets. The guy never wears the tie. But what is the result? What is the end result? It's only going to be more austerity for Greece They're still going in trying to cut a deal Only the deal will be shittier So what was his point? What did he... I don't see the deal. See, you're assuming that what you just said is even remotely true. That may not happen at all. What a deal? The deal may not be worse and they're going to get more free money. Let's listen. It doesn't seem so apparent John

13:59 I mean, they issued...I think the point is and maybe they're starting to come into this conclusion is that and I actually posted this in somebody's post. You are full of crap! We took the United States we all were in this together. All these countries Europe and United States and the rest of it in 2008 down. The Great Recession. It was a collapse of whatever, the Great Recession... The Great Recession! ...which was the Depression which most people recognize it followed this and we took the approach of stimulus. Europe took the approach of austerity

14:37 which only benefited Germany, by the way. Coincidentally and the austerity approach simply did not work and Greece is the absolute best case example of this right they went to austerity it has collapsed the economy yeah the idea was that they would get back on track but it didn't get them back on track it made things worse okay so these idiots in Europe don't seem to understand I just want to ask you a question So the obvious solution is to get a new currency or bring back the drachma and have that, you know obviously devalued almost overnight. And then start rebuilding like in a way like Iceland did only with more people and you're still gonna have your assets that you're going to sell off but if Cyprus and Rockstar guy

15:24 if they really wanted... I'm trying to figure out what was their goal, because all they've achieved now by asking people to say do you want more austerity? No. And then the only conversation is not even about the money anymore! The conversation that the finance minister was having was about trust. They don't trust that the Greeks will actually put more austerity on their people—the Greek government. I know how they can, by the way. I think just stick a knife in everyone hey This is from Gisselbloom. Now, the deal last night was all 19 finance ministers had to agree and otherwise there would be no bailout package which by the way is coming from the ESM. Remember we talked about that years ago? This European stability mechanism so they're not... We did actually. Yeah in great detail and they're not asking for

16:15 any money from the central bank, they're saying we want to tap into the ESM which is a fund to stabilize Europe. So if if a Greek exit would destabilize Europe then that could trigger use of that fund and the funny thing is these same 19 finance ministers... If you remember they were all celebrating and hooting and hollering because they had signed this deal which in effect gives up sovereignty over their capital, because when the ESM calls for cash they are obliged now by the treaty to put in whatever is required. And so that's what the Greeks are going after it's something different now

16:54 And then we have the Finnish finance minister, and he's the one apparently making trouble. No one is blocking a deal here. We're all constructively trying to find a solution in a very difficult situation What we are saying is that the conditionality that has been presented by the Greeks is simply not enough At this stage we need to have clear commitments, clear conditionality and clear proof that those conditions will be implemented at the end of the day. Yeah you see what he's saying? It's like we don't trust these fuckers! That's what he's saying Well he's probably right Of course Did you see Belgium

17:31 The Belgian guy that is the representative in the EU parliament. Did you see him go off on the Greeks? No, no do you have a clip? Oh my god! I didn't make the clip because it's not... The guy can barely be understood as most of them although i should go back and get the clips so you can use that as part of your vocalization of this accent We are very very not going to do this one too because we just don't want to have any kind of Greek stuff now You know it's crazy Greeks. Fuck em' Yeah That was kinda good right But it was okay, but it actually wasn't as funny as the Belgian guy. That was the Belgian guy! And then of course Farage comes out and he... He had a great speech It was a speech about get out while you can No I think he was saying be brave and actually walk out and Cyprus is just sitting there going ugh Do you have that speech? no Ah, it was pretty good one Probably see if I can find that

18:29 So, anyway... I thought it was a mild one from him. But he's the only one making sense. He is saying this European project doesn't work now. Meanwhile the financial sector doesn't actually seem to have any issues with what's going on. You know everything is just kind of moving along and the Euro hasn't collapsed no crazy stuff has gone down So I don't think it matters. There is no support, and if you look at the charts for the euro if it goes below 110. Oh yeah, it might as well drop to 80. It can go all the way down to 80 or some crazy number like that. Yeah, it goes right down to 85. Now that would be fun to watch! And I'm thinking... I am ready for that one!

19:27 So, but it was very interesting to see...it was definitely the conversation in Europe and the French. Because the French have the same problem. They have huge debt there. You know they've got austerity this they're like what's going to happen us? And France their F man you can't work more than 30...what is it 28 hours a week by law and I have squads that go around and check to make sure you're not working more than 28 hours a week How do they know? Well, that's... They have squad comes knocking on the door and they say how long you been working. Yeah they got brown shirts yeah 28 only 20 hours okay he got eight to go yeah of course this uh this is like these are things from the BBC

20:13 Now, there's a lot going on when your banks are shut. A lot happens and this is now the second... We're going into the third week now? Yeah. It was only gonna be one week then it was gonna be one week and then it was gonna be Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday maybe and now we're all the way at Sunday and that the banks of course probably won't even open for a third week. And so besides ATM issues, now you have problems with just doing commerce And the BBC, good old BBC put one together for us. Well my name is Kat and I'm a psychotherapist. I need to be able to run my website which is based on a web hosting service which is not in Greece My web hosting service for my website they need me to update my payment methods and I have no way to do that because right now our money is actually stuck at the bank We cannot really use it

21:02 and we cannot pay for anything using our cards. So that's Katerina talking about the difficulties she is having getting in touch with online services And what solution does the BBC have, John? For Greece? I borrow the money, go to England... Some Greeks are now actually turning to the decentralized cryptocurrency Bitcoin. Let's hear more from Andreas Antonopoulos. Bitcoin! To the rescue! Uh-huh you can do I can imagine something we have a lot of Bitcoin aficionados that listen to the show. I'm sure as they say all you guys can laugh You hate him, but it's going to save her work We'll see and now would now would be the time to provide a shining example A shining example I say yeah well maybe assuming the hosting service takes bitcoin which is probably not always But you rare it's rare

22:04 That's not that rare. There are a lot of... You can keep bank account someplace else? No, this is really becoming a problem and you look at the Netherlands being... As a problem though let say your the host hosting service Yes hello! Yeah, hello, we're all hosting service Hold on a second Hello, hello this is a offshore hosting service. Yeah oh hello hey there anybody customer service anybody I can hold on a second customer service how can i help you? yeah and this is me I'm John here over in I mean Athens Oh no not Athens oh no we mean oh no no have you heard I've heard it's bad well here's the problem with it you send me a number of notices on this one yeah you gotta pay up sucker

22:59 What kind of a hosting service are you? If I would call and say, hello hosting service. This is my situation can you just float me... No that's not how it works John. You call the hosting service you get please use the online system for all your queries and all your payments. You won't talk to anybody at a hosting service. You're not going to get customer service I could get a hold of or email them. You can email them and beg, right? So the problem is your credit card is just no longer working that's the problem they said well do you have another card now I don't have another card you need to use something And I'm pretty sure web hosting services will accept Bitcoin to help yeah good PR That's what I would do was in American Express Card people so the Dutch continue with their cashless society man The campaign is fantastic

23:50 You know, they're teaching kids how to use the bank cards. The princess does it take a look at what happened in Greece? I would never go in that direction now. Yeah but it's they have campaigns you know well yes please you can use your pin that's we've talked about that that's on chip the chip on the card system yeah the pen and chip pen and chip well yeah although the pen and chip card that I have is bullcrap It's just a credit card there's no pain even less secure than ever Anyway, yeah you can either swipe the magnetic stripe or insert your Your chip and then they don't ask you for a pin card and you still just have to sign your signature It's just like swiping. There's no difference I know in cars American Express sent me a new car They said oh we got to get all new cards And so I got a new card that's got the pin in this called pen and signature something

24:42 Yeah, that's a signature. Yes. No chip and see it's the same as swiping the card is useless so you stick the thing in to hold the bottom of these devices and then it goes and then you sign And so I call up customer service because I was activating the card and I asked them Would this work in Europe? Yeah, and they all say yeah Did they say yes no same thing now doesn't work. I'm sure it doesn't work Anyway, but do they take any cards over there if I'm floating around Amsterdam with my my pit of my chip and sig? Thing and I want to use it for it sounds like a venereal disease. Hey man. I got chip and sig back off It's Jim and say don't touch that horrible you really don't want to kiss me right now. He was oink minute falls off Really chipping sig is just bad news. I got if I cut it from that girl over there

25:42 There are, so for instance if you go to certain supermarkets they have a cash aisle and they have a pin only. Not chip-and-pin not chip-and-sig, pin only and my card will not work in that. And that's the whole kind of point anyway. I don't know why they can't get this through GoUniversal? Ah...I'm sure it has to do with fees Your card should work there Yeah it should We're American! Damnit But you know, there's please...you can chip for small amounts. They're really pushing don't carry your own cash. It's almost like it's wow! You're still using cash? Pfft! You're not with the program." It really is that kind of vibe anyway. So it's sincere hatred they've managed to talk the Dutch people into hating money Yeah exactly

26:35 And, you know, Ancilla one of our producers she wrote a pretty good article about it in... what was it? Like the magazine that's in The Weekend newspaper. A reasonable... no reputable. More reputable than Parade! Anyway so... New York Review of Books? Yeah probably Blame it, what does she say? Well very similar that you know the queen is even promoting using banks and borrowing money and using credit to you know preschool not preschoolers a grade school. Yeah so when the queen comes around and says that and she's also hot you know i was like uh I'll do whatever you want I'm cash bad

27:21 Cash back and many stores that just don't even accept cash anymore, and We need a cash bad chip good Jingle we did get a couple of good jingles in During our absence which is always nice You know By the way, I've collected a series of those. Which i didn't bring to today's show because I figured we'd be talking about other stuff but I'll probably bring it out on Thursday. Well I want to talk about United Kingdoms of Conglomeration. Because apparently that C guy has got a real hard-on for Glenn Beck! Oh really? Who cares?!

28:05 Well, it's funny. I'm talking you think that last clip was funny? I got stuff that'll make it... To transition and I do want to talk about the UK because of course I was staying with an English host who doesn't have a hosting company but an English host so we had to watch the English news but first one of a few new submissions. No no no hey listen! Hey! You're in my house

28:51 I thought that was one of the better ones. That is quite good! That's Mike Malaro, it was his wife Jane's idea he was quick to point out. It was good right? That was outstanding So the Chancellor of the Exchequer... that's the ex-exchequer of execher... execher... what are you gonna call it? Execher Osborne He announced a budget in the United Kingdom Which is their annual budget and it was very interesting to watch because you're about to witness the next Prime Minister. He will be the guy

29:36 And it's witnessed, and actually it was Michelle who pointed this out to me. Listen to how he announces the national living wage... What's this guy's name again? Osborne. Oh yeah. Yeah. Young good-looking guy you know but he's got the little red briefcase and he's showing the budget and there were a couple of policies that were interesting. The first is a national living wage which I think it's completely compatible with what we would call the minimum wage and that is going to be raised. And this will happen, I think they start in now and then 2017 and by the time he will be prime minister which is in four years I think He will be prime minister particularly if you listen to how he announced these pay raise for people working for minimum wages. I am today introducing a new national living wage

30:29 set it to reach £9 an hour by 2020. The new national living wage will be compulsory, working people aged 25 and over will receive it It will start next April at the rate of £7.20 The Low Pay Commission will recommend future rises that achieve the government's objective... Now if here in the United States our Secretary of the Treasury which is that Jack Lew? Yeah, Jack Lew. There's a guy with no one if you bumped into on the street nobody would know this guy if he said I am announcing A new minimum wage there'd be some problems in the White House Oh yeah Because this was Osborne is all about I am announcing I am doing this I'm raising the tax-free personal allowance to 11 thousand pounds next year

31:21 I'm raising the tax-free allowance. So this is clearly the guy who's going to take it to the next level and then came something very... You know, i've seen this guy in action he's a total douche Yeah of course you think Ed Miliband is bad? This guys worse He's milk toast for sure So then this got my ears perked up with this. To make sure work pays for parents, I can confirm that from September 2017 all working parents of 3 and 4 year olds will receive free childcare of up to 30 hours a week. Yeah yeah... Hear hear! Okay And then A policy An actual policy Another decision most families make is how many children they have conscious that each extra child costs the family more

32:11 In the current tax credit system, each extra child brings an additional payment of £2,780 a year. It's important to support families but it is also important to be fair to the many working families who don't see their budgets rise by anything like that when they have more children So this is the balance we will strike in future we will limit the support provided through Tax Credits and Universal Credit to two children Families who have a third or subsequent child after April 2017 will not receive additional tax credit or UC support for this child. Now, this is interesting! This is a two-child per family policy. Well you kind of since you weren't here yes in parallel with that we're doing the same thing oh really discussion on the news hour Oh

33:01 So there's something up with this. Well, this is...so two children that should be 2.3 or something I guess to procreate but I've looked it up and this debate has been ongoing in England for quite a while about trying to set a policy for two children per family because the growth is explosive in the United Kingdom and you know where the growth is coming from Yeah, immigrants. Yeah! With seven or eight kids all getting two thousand pounds a year and I was kind of hanging out with some British people and it was kinda like a collective YEAH! FUCK EM!

33:45 Yeah, that's the British. And I think you're gonna see this... Well they pronounce it differently. Falkham yeah. I think the Netherlands would respond very favorably to this because when you have these huge subsidies and you have eight kids all of a sudden that's something you know you're starting to talk some real money. It is. You're talking some real money And I don't think that really got a lot of play, but you say that this is now a discussion point in the U.S...

34:23 The way that I was understanding what they were talking about, this is on one of the chat shows at the roundtable. Is they bring in...you go to when you sign up for welfare if you have to have public assistance when you sign up say you've got two kids or three kids you can't have any more kids right? And that's part of the deal. It was an indication that two was like the optimal... But what happens if you then still have a kid? There's like, a drone come by...? That's what the point of debate was with what happened so well You know you get screwed and now your back where you started from because you don't have enough money to get yourself out Of the hole and so it becomes debatable. There are modern ways of dealing with these poverty issues which would include guaranteed income

35:11 Nixon was a big fan of the reverse income tax. And... What was the reverse income tax? Yeah, that means everyone's guaranteed to say you say let's set the low what does it take did not be living in poverty where he could actually afford to get by. What is that do you think? I think it's about $30,000 in today's world. But I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area so... Right. ...I could be wrong. Okay. So everyone gets that? Everyone gets that and when you make more money than…so you go…that's what you get. That's your base. And then now you have to work out what happens if you actually have a job.

35:50 It would be like, you know...they'd nick a piece of the job. It's very solid. Adam Blythe Well, the way it works here in the Netherlands is if you have some form of government assistance when you get a job anything that's accretive anything that's over that government assistance is then deducted from the government assistance. That's exactly the problem. You can't do that way because say you have a baseline of $30,000 that everybody gets and there'll be a lot of capitalist absolutists out there listening to this because I get into arguments with Horowitz about it cause as far he is concerned people can just shrivel and die. And no offense to him but... No, but he is a Rothschild we all know that.

36:34 He's one of the classic guys that... Barron Andrew, the Rothschild. But he's not... He's Jewish but not a Democrat so there is that kind of... Wow! That's like John Stewart only he won't admit it. Pretty similar and I can see their perspective but is impractical in a world today where we have robots And I have to harken back to when i was a little kid, like say I was in the fifth grade. Right and we were told this in the grammar schools, in my era. That eventually the robots will be making everything you won't have a job there won't be any assembly line jobs and they're probably...and there are very few nowadays all of it shipped to China but when I was a kid I always got work but you can't anymore. And so what happens is the robots take over the money then goes and gets distributed to the population that are citizens of the country because there are no

37:29 There will be no job. Our leaders are actually visionary in this case, limiting it to two children per family which means you kind of just stay status quo we just kind of muddle along and they know because robots make the money and you get assistance. Wait a minute if the robots are making the money who's really is that going to be Google since they own all the robots? Well they're holding some robots lot of people on robots whatever whoever owns the robots there supposedly is gonna distributed throughout the great happy nation. But what happens is that some guy buys a robot, he makes more money because then it goes right into his pockets and then he fires somebody so he says oh I've saved all this money let me buy a second robot. Buys the second robot fires somebody puts the money in his pocket next thing you know he's got 10 thousand robots

38:16 Nobody's working and he's just taking all the money. That's right yeah, that's the idea That is the capitalist dream now however I would like to point out And i've had many discussions about this particularly in light of The glitch day oh I have the clip Before you talk about the glitch they play the clip because they got two people saying glitch within a 15 seconds of each other. I got glitch, I got glitch too! Well this is a better glitch. When it doesn't work right? It has been a rough day but things are finally back to normal at the New York Stock Exchange The Wall Street Journal and United Airlines all three were brought to a halt by computer glitches

38:56 Three glitches made for a difficult Wednesday in the air, on the markets and on the web. We're gonna do a whole section on Comey. I'll rewind little because that was a good glitch to glitch handover. It's all three brought to us by computer glitches. Three glitches made for a difficult Wednesday in the air, on the markets and on the web. Wait a minute stop again. A difficult... There was one word exchanged between the two glitches

39:32 I think this is a record. This is only one word between two glitches when it doesn't work, right? It has been a rough day but things are finally back to normal at the New York Stock Exchange The Wall Street Journal and United Airlines all three were brought to a halt by computer glitches Three glitches me There's nothing in between its three glitches glitches the word three Three, that's a worry. Difficult Wednesday in the air on the markets and on the web trading on the New York Stock Exchange came to a halt for hours because of what the company calls an internal technical issue I got 99 glitches The exchange took to Twitter to reassure traders it was not the result of a cyber breach many traders took it all in stride

40:12 If we got spooked or panicked by something like this, then we're in the wrong business. I mean, we deal with things that are of far greater risk and importance than something like this." About the same time The Wall Street Journal's homepage went down... Panic! ...journalists found a message saying WSJ.com is having technical difficulties and the full site will return shortly. About 45 minutes later, the site was back up. I call hereby—I call—a call to action for all web admins Make your 404 not found page just a big, big blur glitch. It's a glitch!

40:49 We want a 404 glitch page. So people like, it's just a glitch and put a goatee on there will ya? Earlier in the day United Airlines grounded hundreds of flights for more than an hour The problem a busted router would not let the airline computers talk to one another Problem was worked out and relieved passengers were eventually back on their way now before we continue Busted router yeah, but so hey look this router is busted Hey man, what's wrong with the router? Busted. So this type of reporting, because you're right John the robots will definitely take they're already writing a lot of financial news they will take over the journalist's job when this is the level of reporting that they grasp onto just oh it's a glitch! You know everything's a glitch no no it's not a glitch there is a bug in fact I can tell you exactly what happened with United Airlines because one of our producers... And their router was busted

41:51 Dude named Ben here, I work with the woman responsible for installing the server in New Orleans that brought our network down yesterday. It wasn't a glitch or six-week cycle cyber attack just crappy hardware and software that effectively DDoS'd ourselves jamming up the bandwidth till we found out the problem was quote in the house and pulled the plug. The lady that I worked for said it was the worst day of her career And then he ends with... Does this sound like a busted router? No, and then he says guess that's what we get for running our airline on Microsoft. Now that's a good point. Well they DDoS themselves so it was instead of busted router they should have said our router was full. It was full! I would just like someone to be intelligent and United Airlines recognized the problem because their router was full wouldn't that be funny

42:45 Yeah, well this is a busted router. I thought it was funny. Busted router? This is... Okay so And I really have to bring this to a point about what people's expectations are about software. Now, your iPhone? It's full of glitches! Every piece of software has glitches. Some may never surface, some may pop up by just random... We had a glitch the other day where I couldn't get the Freedom Controller to work and it was because in the open source software that creates a short URL link there's a list of short URLs that it won't create, like cunt ass you know stuff like that. And lo and behold by some act of random numbers there was a short URL created with ass in it and so the whole system broke! This is after six years using this stuff

43:43 So things do happen and all software has bugs and is shitty. And if you really think that you're going to get a fail-safe, free great ride on your autonomous vehicle... Think again! There's gonna be glitches some people are gonna die You are gonna die None of this is really good But people have this fantasy like oh hey I look like I can see where I am on my iPhone well why won't all the stuff work? So this is what you then get. Now to the computer glitches, the major ones that brought both the New York Stock Exchange and United Airlines to a halt. The unrelated problems have now been fixed but the fallout is just beginning we have it all covered including the security concerns being raised beginning with NBC's Gabe Gutierrez he is at the New York Stock Exchange. This was also interesting where

44:33 to me seemingly important people who I was around, intelligent people. They said wait a minute this can't be a coincidence with the New York Stock Exchange United Airlines and the Wall Street Journal you don't think China has thousands of guys trying to cyber attack us right now? Like are you insane?! And they're like no...and I'm saying and you call ME a conspiracy theorist! You're not putting these three things together because they've put them in lumped him into one report That's actually an interesting observation. Oh, yeah, I gave good morning this morning the New York Stock Exchange is trying to bounce back My shouting why not? It's a glitch hit a wall Commercial break traders here at the NYSE just said whoa

45:20 Without warning at 11 32 Wednesday all trading was shut down. That is not true the trading kept on going through other systems they just couldn't get a you know, real-time index it's pretty much the only problem that they were able to circumvent anything everything but that's not in the report has been frozen. The floor was stunned, frustrated traders with no access to stock price and they got pictures of guys with their heads in their hands you know what are we gonna do? All that's missing is a guy jumping out the window. You know like an equivalent of b-roll. They had to manually cancel about 700 000 orders already in the system at 1209 the exchange tweeted we're experiencing a technical issue this was uh an inconvenience

46:06 This is a guy from the stock exchange and he's right, it's an inconvenience. It's okay. The New York Stock Exchange but because of quick thinking as far as I know no clients were hurt and nobody suffered a big loss. It came just hours after the computer system for United Airlines also froze fueling... It froze John! You know why? Why? The router was busted. Oh yes! You already know this. Fears of cyber attacks. Fears! It appears from what we know at this stage that the malfunctions at United and... This is Judd Johnson. ...the stock exchange were not the result of any nefarious actor So while terrorism is ruled out, the cause is still unclear an overnight software update may have played a role That's exactly what happened And they admitted it

46:58 two days later in the Financial Times, it was a software upgrade that failed. And when you have these flash trading guys with hundreds of a second trying to get stuff down...it's shitty software and you're going to break stuff! You know the no agenda Wi-Fi went away at Schiphol airport? You're gonna love this story. So I got in touch with our anonymous Wi-Fi knight and said dude what's going on? He says He says, you know I no longer work in that particular area. You know consultancy whatever...I don't want to divulge too much about his position but they did a complete upgrade of all of the Wi-Fi systems and they saw this whole network called No Agenda

47:40 And then I was like, anything that was kind of left over they got rid of. He says, yeah, I don't work there so I'll have to see what I can do. Then I land at Schiphol when I arrived in Rotterdam 10 days ago and I see it's up and I'm like... No actually I'm sorry it was when I was flying to France. I say hey the network is up he said yeah the upgrade was so catastrophic they rolled everything back to the way it was including our network But that just goes to show this stuff breaks. It's hilarious, it's crap people we have our network back That's what's nice shut down for now apparently they're gonna try to upgrade these are rare but they take more than one shot at these upgrades Yeah, but it's gonna be a while for sure They're not gonna just deploy

48:24 You know, easily now because apparently really was a mess. So while terrorism is ruled out the cause is still unclear an overnight software update may have played a role shutdowns like this are rare but not unheard of in 2013 another technical glitch paralyzed NASDAQ for three hours The Dow closed down 261 points not just because of this glitch but also because the financial problems Wait for it. In Greece and China, the night before the hacker group Anonymous had sent out a cryptic tweet seeming to suggest that there would be problems here but again homeland security officials say there is no credible evidence to suggest that this was a cyber attack. Wow but that tweet is interesting all right Gabe you're the heirs. Gabe thanks so much. Yeah yeah that tweet is interesting

49:11 It's unconscionable what these people are doing. This is not... you journalists, you are going to be taken over by robots first because you just accept glitch! It's so stupid. A robot can take and rewrite a press release. They're already doing it, they're already doing it. Financial press releases are...a lot of them done by robots. Sports scores also those stories also written by robots? There is not a lot needed yeah you just get the The wire and you're ready to go. Good to go. Yeah, but I'm just warning...I'm just trying to ring the bell and say that people should also...this is a silly network shows NBC Today show but I'm sure the PBS is not doing any better than this little glitch? You haven't used the word...you know who doesn't use the word glitch that I've so...and I've been tracking this a little bit? Okay. Amy Goodman's show. Really?

50:09 Yeah, somebody goes out of their way not to use the word glitch. They call it a problem. They had a problem! Okay well that's good but they just replace the word glitch with another one Yeah, a problem. A single word. The problem is it's a good word that has you know it has a generalized meaning that people oh the problem could have been a million things glitch! It's like a specific thing that doesn't mean anything at all yeah very strange well let's play at least get this out of the way I want to play because July 4th...you weren't here for the July 4th horror fest Now, we were warned that it was going to be...we're going to have all kinds of attacks and people would die. Peter King was on by the way he was on again and again and again and Peter King came on after there nothing happened and he says oh dodge the bullet Hey I just remembered something or realized something you know why Amy Goodman doesn't say glitch? Because she can't say glitch because she's a robot She is already taken over That could be

51:13 Druling robot. Well, she does a robotic read. I think Amy Goodman is a robot. This is the terror...this is the bull crap so the government decides to say well nothing happened because it wasn't really within our six-week cycle which by the way is July 15th Which is coming out there come on keeping score and it'll be a series of little incidents But they had to since they scared the crap out of the public. I know every show Fox in particular nice with Megan Kelly go oh, how are we gonna enjoy the fourth with all these threats? Was she doing this was she working on the 4th of July was she working She was working before the fourth and that was a Fourth what a buzzkill Saturday. She doesn't work on Saturday

51:57 So, let's just play this. This is from CNN International and they've given us the just dodged a bullet we got lucky. Americans didn't know it at the time but they had several close calls leading up to the July 4th holiday potential terror attacks inspired by ISIS chief US security correspondent Jim Schuetto has that for us U.S. law enforcement supported several terror plots in the last four weeks, including plots timed to the July 4th weekend, U.S. officials tell CNN. Director James Comey says the FBI has made more than 10 ISIS-related arrests in the last month, some tied to the holiday. They stopped the stuff that was trying to come at us for July 4th.

52:43 But now it's July 7th and 8th, and they're on to the next thing. The foiled attacks included targets coast-to-coast and were unsophisticated with plans that included guns... Whoa! What was that? Was that cyber stuff they were showing? Okay, you guys back up a little bit so when they said coast-to-coast they have a US Cyber Map of the United States and like a scan like there is like a radar scan crossing it Like you were looking at, you know planes in the air and across the country there were thousands and thousands of dots. Oh nice! Oh, that way. That's the taser. Hold on and we have to have a better sound effect. Thousands of plots! And then the guy says right after that he says the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life. Fourth but now it's July 7th and 8th and they're onto the next thing The foiled attacks included targets coast-to-coast and were unsophisticated with plans that included guns knives and other weapons fitting ISIS' public calls Wait wait wait

53:43 plans including guns, but guns knives and other how is that a cyber attack? About cybers about the July 4th terrorists. Oh I thought that so okay supporters to attack in any way possible Investigators believe that ISIS members overseas enabled the plots recruiting and encouraging Americans to carry out attacks on US soil. I think what happened was, I heard the sound effects of brrrr and you were talking about the map and i thought they were like cyber pings or something oh it was just location of all these attacks...I get it now with knives and guns in other clubs Knives and guns Clubs And brass knuckles Clubs and rakes Brass knuckles

54:25 Even selecting knuckles. Don't you remember when brass knuckles? Oh man, they fucked him up with some brass knuckles man Yeah, how was that and you don't hear that anymore no should bring them back Marginalized we should bring back the brass knuckles that was I was manly and were illegal you know Yeah, so we're gone. They have the old trick my dad used to always say if you ever gonna get into a fight Have a gun inconvenient this is what I call inconvenient but interesting information Okay, says most people when you're in a fight if you have to hit somebody really hard in the face You're striking your closed fist against

55:03 And a lot of people don't realize that in the sport of boxing, the reason they wear the glove is not to protect people. It's face! It's to protect the hand because when closed fist boxing when you hit a guy really hard in the face it will break your...it'll kill your...it'll hurt your hand but not if you have a roll of quarters in your fists So always carry around a roll of quarters with this advice. Luckily I don't get into fights and I don't intend to but the roll of quarters apparently makes the fist so you can really... So in it, I saw once, you see once in a while in movies. Another tip! Another fighting tip from John C. Devorak

55:46 You see it in a movie once in awhile. You don't see so much, but you've seen the old noir movies and the 30s and 40s. How about I recommend having nunchucks? Well yeah that would be good but I always pop myself on my head with those. So you'd hit this guy and he would just make him fly and there will be quarters flying everywhere. That's what thats reference to Is that a roll of quarters in your pocket There you go. Investigators believe that ISIS members overseas enabled the plots, recruiting and encouraging Americans to carry out attacks on U.S soil even selecting possible targets Comey calls it crowdsourcing terrorists Senator James Rich telling CNN Wednesday that time was critical

56:40 Some were quite imminent actually. Within days? Within days, there was one of course that was even within hours or minutes The FOIL plots come as the FBI continues to warn that terrorist suspects have gone dark in cyberspace increasingly communicating through encrypted messaging widely available but impossible for the intelligence community to monitor July 4th weekend may have passed, but US officials tell CNN that the risk of terror attacks remains very high. Based on very recent past trends ISIS has been will- Very recent past trends? What is that?!

57:18 It's a recent past trend. No, that's very recent. That doesn't sound like it doesn't sound like a recent past trend has no recent past trend but us officials tell CNN that the risk of terror attacks remains very high based on very recent past trends presentation so we still have to be scared oh yeah hey public cower in the corner yes shelter in place So they had no evidence that anything happened This was the lamest thing that they just, this is government sources tell us. Now I had... Just we stopped one a minute before it happened but what was it? What happened when you stop who was it well like to brag about these guys Well now Comey had something on this

58:02 He, no no. He had some... he didn't have proof but he had numbers hold on a second what did we have? It was The FBI brags about these things when they catch somebody Well hold on here's my report As big cities were making plans for July 4th celebrations the FBI was making arrests Some of those rounded up, the FBI says were talking about killing people during the holiday. With a knife! FBI agents made a dozen terror-related arrests in the past month and the FBI director said today that some were carried out to thwart planned attacks Five of those arrests came in the New York area Two others came in Boston See? That's a little bit more information

58:40 Now at least there's New York and Boston. And investigators... Five random arrests. Yeah, say a third man there, Osama Rahim killed a month ago originally planned attacks on July 4th. Yeah the dead man blame it on the dead guy. The dead guy? Well you already killed! The FBI says he killed this guy weeks ago but he was gonna do this on the fourth that's right is that their claim? That's the claim When they grab his dead body, shake him. Tell us tell us. In Boston an investigator say a third man there, Usama Rahim killed a month ago originally planned attacks on July 4th the FBI says all were communicating with ISIS figures overseas responding to social media messages advocating violence blasted out to cell phones There is a device almost the devil on their shoulder all day long saying kill kill kill kill

59:30 You gotta clip that. Hold on a sec, now do you know what we're gonna get? What we're gonna do is... We're gonna get some more good songs out of this It's unbelievable. Let me roll that back, I like that. I'm sorry i hadn't ISO'd that yet. Messages advocating violence blasted out to cell phones There is a device almost the devil on their shoulder all day long saying kill kill kill kill We need to kill them! The FBI says ISIS directs those who respond to the tweets to use applications like WhatsApp and Threema that encrypt a message as soon it's sent, and don't unscramble it. Now hold on one second... Threema?

1:00:17 Have you ever heard of 3ma? It seems to when I, when you hear that. I didn't hear this before but when you hear that You have to think who paid who to plug this company. Right now remember Obama's kept saying kayak dot com Yeah no it wasn't kayak it was uh... That's the travel site No it was um... It was I think it was kayak No it was some voice service that we never heard of Some voice over IP thing Well, whatever well see these guys plugging these companies out of the blue and that was a plug yeah I never heard of them look it up three months Rima Yeah you look it up now report. Oh what's app? Of course is a Facebook property And so I'm going to predict that this whole encryption thing and we have I'm sure both have some clips about this It's going to come down to Facebook complying

1:01:08 And as we know, the FBI... well at least the previous FBI director had an office in Facebook. It's probably still there. Probably says FBI on the door. Yeah and when Mark Zuckerberg was Time Magazine's Man of The Year right there in interview with Robert... what was his last name? Mueller. Robert Mueller, Bob Mueller He popped his head and said, hey I was just in the building anyway. You know checking out my desk and i just wanted to say hi so the FBI will be in there with it Facebook

1:01:44 I think the intent is for Facebook to be on board. Threema, what you got? Jay Famiglietti Threema is a Swiss company. They don't sell or collect data. They are all fully encrypted and it's a cell phone product so it's like...you've seen a couple of these different ones that I haven't heard of this one. But I'd say it's probably pretty secure, I would hope unless they're saying…the problem is they don't trust the government when they say or Unless that was a CNN or somebody else that was promoting it. I'm always worried about the honeypot factor, you know? Let's get them on this stream of thing we've got to made... You want one of these open source products like Signal. Signal is open source and I think you're pretty safe with that. And there's no company behind it. It's just a...

1:02:34 Uh, git. Okay. A new terror- Oops! This one. Until it's received the company handling the message can't read it either even when the government comes with a court order Our job is to look at a haystack the size of this country for needles that are increasingly invisible to us because of end-to-end encryption Now that means he's searching around I mean, searching for a needle in the haystack doesn't mean that someone says hey look at this needle. No he's searching for needles so he is kind of implicating himself in what he really wants But many internet security experts say what the FBI want some way for companies to capture and hand over data is bad idea A debate on privacy versus security that now heating up in congress

1:03:22 Well, I've got some clips about this. There's something phony about with some of this and Feinstein by the way is actually kind of hilarious she Because ever since she's been burned when she released that you know that report And this is the this is the house or the Senate Committee on intelligence I saw I have to click from this as well But let's see what you have this well. I've got first of all feinstine I've got a funny Feinstein clip we can play later where she calls, she says you guys are looking for a front door key? No. Just actually just play this clip the Feinstein versus Comey front door key and let me ask you to respond this is another quote from this same letter requiring technology that provides law enforcement access to information also risks undermining the security of all

1:04:13 all electronic communications and digitally stored information." Would you comment on that? Because I understand it. What you would be talking about is some kind of front door... Again, my reaction to the comment is maybe if that's the case well I guess we're stuck. This is oh yeah no okay my clips fit in very well with this I And she has some...again, she's a little confused but she's got this idea that we have a bunch of laws that force companies if they see child porn they have to report it and there is something to do with child porn. And she asked Comey why don't you just take and just write another law that is like this the same thing about terrorism? Right.

1:05:20 He won't, he says I, he gets all confused. He said, I don't know what any and... He doesn't understand the questions? So she grills him a little bit more and his answer is so disturbing to her that she says oh well this is very upset and then she has one more question and then when she ends This is this is uh this is the clip of Feinstein versus Comey just versus Comey. When she ends, he has some dumb answer. She's just got this look of she smiles and says this is bullshit she's thinking to herself. Thanks Mr Chairman we this committee passed out its intelligence authorization bill I think on June 24th and in that bill we put a provision which would require technology companies to inform the appropriate authority

1:06:13 when they obtain knowledge of terrorist activity. Now this is modeled after an existing law which requires technology companies to notify authorities about cases of child pornography, but it doesn't require companies to monitor any user subscriber or customer. It is really the beginning of saying look Mr. and Mrs. American Technology, you have a responsibility too What do you think of that? Now it doesn't seem that complicated for Comey No it doesn't

1:06:52 It's an interesting idea. I've heard about it, my folks have told me about it haven't read or studied it and so I frankly can't give you an intelligent answer. It is an interesting idea. I do find in practice that they are pretty good at telling us what they see So...I have to give you non-answer. It's simple we do that for child pornography Don't you think we should do it? For possible terrorist acts Maybe but I haven't heard. I'd want to hear out the other side Oh dear, what? I want to make sure I'm not missing something again Haven't read it or the other side of his mouth that he's talking out of we know I'm dumb enough when I know something this is something I haven't studied enough to give you an intelligent answer Okay, all right

1:07:38 But she's sensing, and I think what I would take away from this exchange was that we can't allow this sort of activity because we can't phony stuff up so easily. Yeah, that's what he said. No, we can't have anything that's like a solid way of solid procedure or process because that won't allow us the leeway we need to phony up these phony baloney events and these phony baloney people that we arrest and all the rest of it. That's They came away with, now after she was done, Wyden comes out and he's got a bone to pick with Comey. This is the Wyden clip and what's interesting about this clip, he grills Comey about what he says we're not going to do this because I've seen it coming down the road before where they are gonna do something and he discusses it

1:08:25 And then at the very end of the clip, you have to listen because there is a little exchange between Whiten and Feinstein because they're sitting next to each other. She's asking about something in the morning and then they pass it on to another guy that's Heinrich Brownnoser comes on last and I just only have the very beginning of it. Who's that? Heinrich Brownnoser? Heinrich Brownnoser, and this is Senator Heinrich and he is one of these guys... Oh thank you for your service! You've done such a great job keeping the American people safe. He has got some skeleton in his closet so he's praising what a great man Comey is. Heinrich Brownnoser. Comey one last question. Well who was this with question?

1:09:06 Who is this? This is Wyden. Wyden, Wyden is the guy I think he's from Oregon. He came across as extremely gay. He's been on the intelligence committee forever and he's the guy who says... who came on the floor and said oh there are horrible things that NSA is doing but you would never tell us what. Wait, but I just heard he sounded really gay He's got a horrible list. Comey, one last question if the United States were to require our companies doing business here to ensure government access to encrypted communications would you expect that foreign governments would create the same requirement for companies operating there? I think they might or might try too

1:09:51 And I will tell you that in my view would clearly be the outcome. I think that would make American individuals and businesses more vulnerable to surveillance by foreign governments, and I just want to leave you with one last thought I've been on this committee for 14 years, so i kind of get a sense where something is headed and i think Mr. Director Where this is headed Is towards proposals For some kind of stockpile Of encryption keys i don't think oh hello captain obvious welcome to the party we have it fleshed out where senators are going to want to go but i get the sense that's where This is going there should be some kind of stockpile of encryption keys for the government to access.

1:10:36 I just want you to know that i'm willing to work with you on ideas here but, I think this proposal is a big time loser. It's a loser on security grounds for the reasons that I've mentioned it is a retreat on privacy and I think it will do great damage to our cutting-edge digital companies that have jobs pay good wages so...I hope we're not going to go there! I just want you to know my son... All its missing is saying girlfriend I hope you're not gonna go there girlfriend Comey. Having listened to a couple of hours of this and listening to this morning's testimony where i think this is headed and i think it is the wrong way to proceed thank you Mr Chairman Where did she get that this morning? Senator Roehern What did she say, where'd you get that... Where'd you get that this morning? I thought she was talking about the Birkin bag

1:11:26 Where'd you get that Birken bag? My God. And me and Denny just hear a little bit of Heinrich coming in at the end I love your Birken bag, where did you get that? Hey two snaps on what you just said to him. Where did you get that this morning? Senator uh... Heinrich Director Comey um You've heard this before but i want to say it again Hold on a second could you spread your cheeks please Mr. Comey here comes my nose Please thank all of your personnel And then what happens on and on and I never asked a question that I could but I just have dead Dead air in your clip here. Oh, that shouldn't be there But anyway okay you're you're up. Okay? I got it all right um I had something similar On the encryption, but I like the exchange between senator Roy Blunt who is Missouri Mississippi Mississippia things Mississippi maybe now look at him, and he's a Republican Thank You senator

1:12:22 The recruitment tends to take place... Alright, this was about ISIS recruiting through cyber. ...in a way that we with lawful process can see it either usually on Twitter or Twitter direct messaging There's some intel we didn't have yet They can they apparently can get Twitter direct messaging which are not encrypted because they're not encrypted and then if it looks productive to the ISIL recruiters, they move them to the end-to-end encrypted communication. And so a major concern is what are the guys in Syria telling these guys? and what do they tell him back And what are they saying to their buddies using encrypted platforms in the United States? Hey, Ahmed buddy! He's from Missouri. Missouri. Ahmed buddy!

1:13:08 I gotta tell you something. It's both the international and the local within a network in the United States, I guess what i'm asking is listen to these guys completely lose the plot on how any of this works and pretty much say no matter what you want to do it's still not going to work that the international encrypted equipment is still available Is there anything we can do that stops that from being a problem, that you can't penetrate? I think the answer- Can you penetrate the problem for me Senator, I mean Mr. Comey These guys are already just off the rails have no idea what they're talking about Again i'm not an expert if the servers- At least he's honest If the servers are located entirely outside of the United States That we would have a heck of time enforcing a regime that would require them to give us access Now So is he not saying exactly why this will never work

1:14:00 is that if the service or the services run in a country that will not comply with whatever we tell them to do, then people just use that. That would be... Yeah. I suppose an expert might say like... Of course what neither of them... What both of them failed to realize is there's also the devices themselves that have a lot of this built-in browsers. Geez! Browsers You know, you'll have to certainly have a key for that then because there's also encrypted HTTPS. Well but if it transits the United States there is some way we can impose our will on it I just don't know well enough to evaluate that

1:14:40 So I do think one of the challenges that people have raised with this is say even if we fix our problem, you have to address it in some fashion internationally because the really bad guys will move to infrastructure that is in Western Europe. And so to solve your problem... Hey! Guess where were going next? Where the really bad guys are, Western Europe. Hello Western Europe we're coming for your really bad guys People say you've got America's gotta get its act together and it's the big dog so you probably ought to do it first Well with a big dog hey we're gonna do this yeah you do it with a big dog Then your colleagues in allies of Western Europe have to get their act together To make sure there isn't a safe haven there Now that still leaves you with people who might want to move their infrastructure

1:15:22 less well-governed part of the world. Yemen! Pick and choose wherever we want to have regime change. We're going to have a small part of that problem, but I think the main part of the problem could be dealt with with North America and Europe focusing on it And is Europe focusing on it? Yes, as I think I said earlier the UK and France a little bit ahead of us on this Yeah good work UK French in particular in the wake of Charlie Hebdo and the and the Brits Both is that? I know the British better have legislation that requires Access to communications their challenges the reverse of what you're saying. The infrastructure is in the United States on which they want to compel

1:16:05 access. And so trying to figure out how to deal with that is a challenge we're still working through. And so the infrastructure is really the target as opposed to the device somebody might be using, even if the device is encrypted what infrastructure goes through may or may not accept that? I can't use this phone! What are the numbers on this screen I got a dial it's like crazy crap these guys. It's my phone is encrypted Glad it's funny because it's so sad Encrypted message well, I think the reason I was talking with the infrastructure Is that would give you the ability to compel some?

1:16:48 to impose a requirement that that provider, the owner of that infrastructure that sits in your country comply with American law to give judge or judicial orders uh make them effective. The challenge is if the infrastructure is not in the United States who are you compelling? He's creating a horrible argument here by saying I want encryption but I wanna have the keys to the front door to Feinstein's front door But it doesn't really matter because there'll be other countries that won't have that. I don't understand why he's saying any of this, and then there is this little exchange... And we've got security! As a number of senators have said, I care a lot about cyber-security. I love strong encryption. So remember this people, strong encryption equals government has keys That's the brand now, strong encryption What does that even mean?

1:17:44 Strong encryption. You're a technology reporter, John? You are an author you are well respected intellectual? More bits more bits! What is strong and can...more bits? More bits Is that triple DES 256 something or others? It's 512 move it up So how do we take those things we care about, innovation and jobs security on the internet and security for ordinary people from crime and terrorism. How do we maximize them all? How do we optimize them all?" So we can get in! And as I said some smart people say well if you do anything it'll destroy the internet or it'll chase all the business overseas. Whoa now that's serious there are smart people who say

1:18:30 If you, if... Let's just listen to that again. He's going to destroy the internet! Destroy the internet! Some smart people? Who do you think those smart people are? Probably Megan. What's her name from Google who is the CIO? What?! Megan Smith? Yeah it's her Like I know some really smart the internet it's gonna. If you do anything You know it'll destroy the Internet or it'll chase all the business overseas Oh my god, all the business will be overseas as those already been chased over to these by their reasons by a tax regime

1:19:08 I have two more Comey clips. Oh, I'm almost done! I do think we have to engage on the technical solution with smart people and creative people... Where can we find said smart and creative people John? They can't get clearances there was a whole thing on it's i think was 60 minutes or one of these shows that the government can't hire half of the people that they'd like to get because they won't pass this muster. They smoke weed and snort coca. With all these clearance checks which you know which is now owned by whoever stole all the documents. They're doing drugs John They're all doing drugs. He's like a stoner. They're all doing drugs! Hey man, I can figure this out... Come on there has got to be a huge drug scene in Silicon Valley

1:19:45 Don't you think I just a lot of I think I don't know this for a fact anymore because but I Believe there's a lot of cocaine. It's gotta be just rampant Yeah, snorting off and naked women and stuff come on. No about that. I don't think that goes on Boring and we need to say is boring in Hollywood do you get that think about is there an international? Aspect to this and again. I'm making this up it ought not ought not to civilize up rule of law countries agree upon it's as he did you just hear what he said I'm making this up. He said he's making it, and he says, man just making this up? Yeah! And no one goes excuse me you're here talking to the Senate and your'e making things up? Technical solution with smart people and creative people and we need think about is there an international aspect of this? Again i am making this up but ought not civilized rule-of-law countries agree upon a framework that makes sense? Oh framework sometimes people say to me well if we do this for you we gotta do for China yeah my response will be

1:20:45 If China wants you to do for me, for them what I want you to do which is require me go an independent judge show probable cause. Get a written order right? Be subject all this constraint and oversight that would be great for the Chinese people! I don't think China wants you to do what I wants you to so I'm less worried about we agree too being used against us in China but i am worried about this point that's raised about chasing business to other parts of the western world which why they were gonna thoughtful about it This guy. He's gotta go! Oh, he is in for a reason I'm telling you Somethings gonna happen with banks Cause this guy is a banker Yeah he might be right HSBC and he's in there for a reason This is Comey on Twitter

1:21:33 I'll play this clip and then... I just want to reiterate for everybody, this is the current director of the FBI. He was on the board of HSBC, I believe during... During the money laundering days. The money laundering days at the Mexican drug cartels And now he's the director of FBI. So, he's got the goods on lots of people and he's in this position for a reason maybe when something happens. He can intercept the data but it's gobbledygook. Gobbledygook? We can't break that encryption. It's gobbledygook! Yeah that part I understand so the social media platforms they still see no issue with once it's clearly known that this is an illegal activity that's happening on their platform, is there a response to say you can't do that on our platform? Or are there responses hey we're just open for anything whether its prostitution child porn or terrorism you can use it. Oh I'm sorry I misunderstood the question Senator they're being quite good about- Yeah let me stop and say it. It's called the digital millennium. The answer to the question the guy asked which was essentially that question when he just heard with all bunch of crap about encryption

1:22:32 And he finally gets back on track. Yeah, but this guy's a moron. Has he not heard of the DMCA? Well here we go. Oh same clip just continue? Yeah. And it's gotten increasingly good over the last year Twitter does not want people engaging in soliciting advertising criminal activity... Notice advertising is top-of-the list before criminal activity Twitter is more interested in you ripping off some advertising opportunity than you killing yourself or somebody else. People engaging in soliciting, advertising criminal activity of any sort on their social media platform but they're being particularly aggressive at shutting down and trying to stop ISIL-related sites I think it actually led ISIL to threaten to kill their CEO Wait a minute! That's right! You got it Oh man oh nice one

1:23:27 Yeah, I'll give it to you for that. Nice! Well played sir. It was like killing time and so i think that's one of the reasons Costello quit Yeah, because he was... Screw it. Why am I deciding to be a CEO someplace else without somebody wanting to kill me? All right now here's one you're gonna save You're gonna think of a clip to play but you have to wait till the whole clip is over Because this is Comey This is Comey and he's gonna say He gets close And he gets closer to saying it and you can hear him He always wants to say it But he never says or does he

1:24:12 people who are either inspired or directed from out of their country to do something. And, of course the most recent and horrific example is what happened in Tunisia just last week And without, obviously we are in an open session I understand that but i'd like to give you the opportunity to talk to the American people and tell them what a concern this is for ya how this fits into your priorities. And what your doing about this matters that are unclassified could you do that for me please? Thank You Senator

1:24:51 ISIL is reaching into the United States to all 50 states trying to motivate troubled souls Increasingly wait hold on we have a health crisis troubled soul old souls and write that down possible title troubled souls sad kids To either come to their caliphate or kill where you are What's the song kill as you are Jeez, this Comey guy. Are you sitting around? Kill him! Kill! Kill! Three more days till Halloween. Or kill where you are. Kill where you are damn it! And social media, this investment in buzzing in your pocket all day long actually works to sell shoes, uh-huh It works to sell cars, it works to motivate troubled souls to do bad things We are now reaping the results Well how come these guys have to spend two billion dollars to become president then

1:25:52 If you just get a hold of these troubled souls, you can win anything. Buzz in the pocket! It works to sell cars it works to motivate troubled souls to do bad things we are now reaping the results I think it should be part of our In The Morning Troubled Soul...In The Morning To You Troubled Soul Of a year-long effort by ISIL to invest in this social media push which is why you see so many arrests by the FBI. These are our disruptions stopping people from going and shooting innocent people or trying to behead them, so this is going on all over the place we're working very very hard on it

1:26:28 I want the American people to know about it because it's an important thing, but we also need their help in almost every case. Someone saw something. Someone saw something weird that didn't seem right We got to get folks just to tell us. Human nature is to write an innocent narrative over the hair standing up on the back of your neck and say, I must have misunderstood he must be having a bad day Okay, if it's just a bad day there won't be a problem. We investigate in secret so we don't smear innocent folks. But we gotta get folks when they see something that makes the hair stand up on the back of their neck saying, That guy doesn't seem right and tell somebody... So that we can check it out. Right? We need to help because this spans all 50 states. We got state local law enforcement helping us all around the country. We need the good folks of America They see something that seems out-of-place Just say something

1:27:14 You know, if this guy were the CEO of Coke you know the board would have his head if he got through a whole speech and you know we have this drink that's sugary and it's brown and it goes very well with alcohol. It just doesn't mention coke! This is his brand see something say something Took him forever get to it. He should have been mentioning the whole time. I think he forgot it I think he was he that's why he was beating around the bush so long. He's like what the fuck was that slogan again? See something tell someone if you see something tell it tell some Now, that's not now then if you see something Referred to the police

1:28:04 And you can see that crack cranking away in his brain right forgot to pay got the phrase that pays what a dork believable That was that was a very good. That was a very good clip It's almost as good as my Obama clip which I'm sure you saw but just in case You didn't or other people hadn't heard it was moving too slowly, but the fall of Ramadi has galvanized the Iraqi government and So, with the additional steps I ordered last month we're speeding up training of ISIL forces including volunteers from Sunni tribes in Anbar province. Yeah we're training ISIL forces! That is a classic...I forgot to clip it myself How good is that? And yeah this is the basis of the no agenda theory that you always say the truth eventually because humans do that they have to they blurted out

1:28:04 And you can see that crack cranking away in his brain right forgot to pay got the phrase that pays what a dork believable That was that was a very good. That was a very good clip It's almost as good as my Obama clip which I'm sure you saw but just in case You didn't or other people hadn't heard it was moving too slowly, but the fall of Ramadi has galvanized the Iraqi government and So, with the additional steps I ordered last month we're speeding up training of ISIL forces including volunteers from Sunni tribes in Anbar province. Yeah we're training ISIL forces! That is a classic...I forgot to clip it myself How good is that? And yeah this is the basis of the no agenda theory that you always say the truth eventually because humans do that they have to they blurted out

1:28:54 in all sorts of different ways. I stole the cookies! Freudian slips, as they're called... Yeah. ...and that was a classic for Trini Isle. But he was... and I went back and looked at the clip a couple times. He's reading this off his paper or there's a prompter on the table but he is reading this. And it still comes out. Because what could have actually been meant to say? that he confuses. We're training against ISIL, we're training... well play it again and let's see if we can figure that out." And no one behind him caught it they were just sitting there thinking... No I hear the... Oh I'm on TV behind the president oh man I'm getting hard oh crap I can't get hard because everyone will see you got a big boner! Oh no they were not listening

1:29:38 They're not listening. That's the what's going on too slowly But the fall of Ramadi has galvanized the Iraqi government so with the additional steps I ordered last month We're speeding up training of ISIL forces including volunteers from Sunni it must he must have meant anti-isil Forces don't you think yeah, that would be it What a what a canar we're continuing training of ISIL? Forces it would because what there could of anti-isoforce yeah it would be that would probably be it. I don't know how you could the word anti would be hyphenated to me right there oops um and then I have one yeah it has to be that excuse me they were uh but I want to save, I see that you have a lot of Dunford stuff so we'll do that after we uh all right you know what could have been? It may not have been it may have actually been that way on this sheet because

1:30:35 I mean, that's how deep the lie would be. Because we're training ISIL forces! We're training them... Well of course we are! ...and it assumes that is the forces that will be fighting ISIL. They are ISIL forces they're the ISIL unit of the army. Hmmmm....I don't know but clearly we should not be fighting...training ISIL forces but No, we shouldn't That is not the way the script was written What do I have here? Oh yeah There was a... how did I come about this? I found this thing called the Sawab Center, which is S-A-W-A-B center dot org. sawabcenter dot org And where did this come up? This came up... What was it maybe just in relation to this but this is a State Department USAID joint venture with the United Arab Emirates

1:31:42 And their entire mission is to make people aware of... Did you go to the website by any chance? No, I'm opening the email. I forgot to open it Oh okay Are you paying attention or what? Yeah, you're talking about swab sailors or something Just like you're standing behind the president and he's like whatever What did I know what Curry is doing? I'm opening up an email Here it is. SAWAB, who we are? SAWAB is a joint initiative by the governments of the United Arab Emirates and the United States in support of the Global Coalition Against Daesh D-a-e-s-h which is the term that... The right term Yeah which they've been trying to push And it says SAWAB, S A W A B united against extremism There's a whole thing there that we haven't been exposed to yet What we do

1:32:36 The word sawab in Arabic signifies doing the right thing or being on the right path. Sawab will use online communication and social media tools to put things in the right perspective and amplify those many moderate voices that too often get drowned out by the noise of the extremists, and they stand for diversity progress transparency tolerance moderation etc etc Where'd you get this? Well I found out... there was a video that's what it was So they have this video, I'll just play that and then we'll take our break. You gotta listen to this it's kind of interesting so again it's the state department this is what they're trying to do by approaching us from a social media perspective how this is how we're going to stop ISIL in other words we could have made this up and putting millions in our pocket all over the world there are more than one-and-a-half billion Muslims They live in harmony with other religions across different cultures and societies

1:33:39 So you see a whole bunch of little... Little blue figurines. Ominous music. Just as they have hijacked a religion. They have also hijacked the world of social media. Oh, you see what this is going? I Jack the world of social media. Yeah inundated with I'm being recruited every single day money Yeah big money left it on the table to spread their malicious and destructive ideology No

1:34:33 But the voices of over a billion Muslims and hundreds of millions of others cannot be drowned out by the hatred of just a few. Yeah, I don't think they are! Do you think they're getting drowned out? The overwhelming majority must be heard. Oh, I didn't think they were getting drowned out. Anyway this is what these guys do... I think our media drowns them out but that's beside the point Oh, okay. Well that was kind of anticlimactic Okay I'll fix it! I'l make you happy And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C. Dvorak! In the morning do you Adam Curry also in the morning all ships of sea boots on the ground feeding their sons in the water and in The morning at all the people that make these clips yes and all the dames and knights out there Adam Ventra ventre made that for us in the morning was a beauty that one that great

1:35:39 In the morning to everyone in the chat room who hung with us throughout our late start today on the live stream and in the morning too are we streaming live now? Yeah, oh yeah. We've been streaming for most of the show actually yeah Oh good I should have sent a tweet out but I didn't That's okay. We still got like...I don't know 1000 people in there so something stuck Thank you to our artists for episode 736. We thank John Fletcher, Sir John Fletcher for that and for episode 737 the interview show which got a lot of good feedback on except for the audio quality we kind of knew there was going to be a problem and the art for that was done by Paye

1:36:22 It comes and goes. So what are we doing today? Are we thanking everybody from who came in just since our last show? We got three shows to thank people. Okay, wow nice! It's a longer list than usual but hold on a second... But it's you know it's a good list so let's thank these people and they'll be given credits for today's show except for Anthony Seven is the top of the list he's the oh geez I thought I had a note from him Well, you think he would. Let me take a look I have to stop Do you have to go the other computer? No no no this computer... Do i need do i need to fill up with some play the no-no thing again that by the way they do remix that with Obama a little louder okay

1:37:16 Not you, the originator. Yeah okay I'll tell him all right here one more time Did you get his note? Oh yeah. Okay, good. Greetings from Indianapolis! It's been over a year since my last contribution and you and Adam have indeed done your part to keep me sane since then the episodes have been particularly excellent of late I've therefore decided to heed your sage advice and try my bank's free electronic check writing service Nice

1:38:04 By the way, there's three or four of these systems out there and you get all these checks that come in various manners. But this particular system he uses is the one that is the most old-fashioned of all them and it's a You get this kind of, it looks like a piece of paper that you tear off the edges to get the check in the middle. It's just like a little gift in the middle and there are lot people that use this system and a lot of banks...I mean, it's just one check so it is not really cost-effective and I think it will be discontinued eventually but only twice because there's always $5, you know, $10 maybe in these types of checks

1:38:42 And twice, and this is one of the times you open the thing up expecting your normal thing. You pull it and $737 in this thing just for some reason amuses me. One time somebody was on instant night doing this. A few minutes ago I was pleased to complete a simple task of sending a contribution which is very easy to do with free electronic check writing. $737.37 to the cause via my bank's webpage I hope you received the check in time for episode 737. Well, even if we did it wouldn't get credited there but we will credit you on today's show for being a member of the 737 club. That's right! Show 738 And does he not become a knight today? I believe...I have a feeling that he is a knight It's in blue Anthony Seven becomes Sir Anthony Seven Yeah okay so he's now a Knight

1:39:35 Anyway, so I was I get a some muses me anyway nice sir mark our buddy in Japan the great architect yeah Baron is there at all Tokyo the Baron of Tokyo happy fourth of July Thanks for keeping us same sir Mark the baron of Tokyo Nicholas Stowe and Austin Texas 333 thanks with two excellent shows during your well-deserved break Sir mr. Nick in Austin Texas. Thank you Rosalind Furness in Turnbridge Wells Kent, 24212. Dear Adam and John thank you so much for the extreme courage and dynamite something let me pull this thing open wider open wide analysis which has kept me from being driven to the brink of insanity by the mainstream media since I started listening to The Best Podcasts In The Universe a year ago each working day I commute a total of almost four hours holy crap

1:40:37 Each working day I commute a total of almost four hours to perform my duties as an underpaid slave in the world of London publishing. As I went, oh she's in the publishing game so I'll read it as though she is As I wend my story way to the office, I observe the pallid faces of the mindless hordes of fellow commuter slaves around me sucking up the twisted stories they're being fed by the newspapers. And a wave of relief coupled with a shamefully pleasant sense of smug superiority washes over me knowing that I'm not being sucked into their vortex of lies

1:41:18 Because I'm protected by the mighty no agenda shield of truth as an expression of my gratitude Please accept this hub. This way all publishers talk, by the way My if you ever go visit one they talk like so is their pompous? They talk like this Humble donation at 242 12 which I believe should take me to the level of Dame Oh She on the list. I don't believe so Iran okay what if it's wrong oh No, it'll be fine. She's premature cerdamination Well, okay. What should we make it up? Okay Rosalind... Instead I'd like to be- oh! Instead! Oh wait a minute. There's an instead. Could you maybe- Instead I would like to bestow this great accolade upon my old friend and best person Jihadi Jim. And if was he who first hit me in the mouth He would also make a stellar gift for his 42nd birthday Is he on the birthday list? Hold on, Jihadi Jim? This is not- Yes. Okay

1:42:18 It's on the birthday list and he is becoming a knight. I do not see him on the birthday list either Okay, well there is a flaw there And what's his... Is this Jihadi Jim? Because he was first hit me in the mouth to make a stellar gift for his 42nd birthday on 12th of July. When I suppose he will become, which is today, become the answers to life, the universe and everything whatever the case she says maybe too busy living out John's dream as a shape-shifting Hong Kong playboy have any time for me but I still love and miss him dearly. However, since he hasn't donated a single honky all the time... I have been listening to the show could you please pronounce him Sir Jihadi Jim The Grand Douchebag of Hong Kong? Hold on! Sir Jihadi Jim... The what? The Grand Douchebag Of Hong Kong Side

1:43:18 Nice. I'm pretty certain he would appreciate some shibari, the fat rooster craft beer at the no agenda round table Lastly if it's not too much to ask can i please take for myself a shot of that everlasting no-agenda karma two to the head shut up slave Italian style grazie mille wishing you both as always an extremely or an exceedingly fine time in the morning okay ladies? I'm sorry yeah okay there we go Shut up slave You've got karma I just need to what was the but did he add to the roundtable was the product. He wanted would like to consume Shibari shibari or shibari shibery shibari shibari beer fat rooster craft a beer and fat rooster

1:44:13 Craft beer okay good got it. Yeah, fat rooster craft a beer yeah that not rooster craft Yeah, that rooster craft beer right or is it fat rooster craft beer? It shit there'll be fat rooster mm-hmm craft beer craft beer hi Hi, did you did you just walk away just like did like drop the mic and walked out? Craft beer dropped around the mic job to my craft bear $38.00 Slammer King, but $200.33 and I have a note that's why I walked away. Ah gotcha. Enclosed fine 233 which is more than enough to achieve Baron he has his numbers

1:44:57 which would actually make him a baronet. Yep, baronet got it on the list I'm not entirely clear on how the peerage works well its dvorak dot org slash peerage dot htm or dot html Or perage, it might be just perage. Dot HTM Are you running that on Windows 95? That server at Dvorak dot org with your dot HTM Use that HDM once in a while it reminds you of the good old days Pathetic why does do you have like blink tags? And red gif ball red ball dot GIF jiff no I like the I like the cat chasing the thing across the street The most ham radio guys have websites like that Pretty so it would be me exactly all right onward. He will let's go to letter

1:45:51 He wants the protectorate of the central coast ventured to Santa Cruz and he wants a combination moving and job karma. You don't get it, you don't get it. You don't get a protector until your baron isn't that I believe that's true? Okay. Baron is three X night so he's two X I think yeah so can I gets in this unless he's already 2X nine and he's just giving me a toll for another thousand probably could be because he's been given us money forever. All right we'll make him baron at that area. And he's a baron what the Baron of The... the Central California Coast. Central California Co- He's in the chat room, saying I'm three times knight! Okay. I will stick you with my sword! And he wants to say moving Karma and JavaKarma because they're relocating to the Pacific Northwest Good luck Alright here we go You've got karma Onward Geocities Nice

1:46:55 You know the entire Geocity The entire collection of geocities stuff is available online. Yeah, I can find file Oh like a zip is it dot htm file now? It's just like a some zipped file Who saved that oh? somebody, as we're floating around. Because every once in a while you go and you do some search or you don't anymore than a couple years back you would. You'd be used to it. Oh everything I wanted to know about boron and how the atom works! And then it's old geocities sites. Some ol' engineer put up some sites... You can't get there anymore but their sites are still

1:47:35 of downloadable somewhere, somebody's got them. You look around this... Okay let's go to Stuart Rushing 200 bucks from Corvallis Oregon I have a note right here proves it by making noise he says in the morning you two have really been rocking lately we've been rocking thanks for the continuing analysis and insights you have provided as well as that by the way is using a handwriting font no kind of cheating so it's kinda cheating You have provided as well as the book referrals. I read Ken Economic Hitman Confessions of and immediately sent four copies to family members, explained a lot what was going on when I was growing up and starting a family. I'm almost done with pot shards." Reading these two books has made me realize how lazy I've been over the past decade or two when it comes to keeping my mind sharp and being aware of what is really going on. Too much focus on income and not enough on what is important in life

1:48:35 Your continuing discussions of climate change reminded me of early science classes in grade school. Fourth or fifth grade, as I recall... Anyway! I remember learning about the Earth's hydrological cycle also known as the water cycle primary point concern water evaporating and creating clouds which then rain back on the earth and made its way to the lakes, oceans, and the mountains. Shut up! That can't be true Don't you believe in science?

1:49:14 whose company in San Diego just shut his doors. Oh, and one last thing I totally agree with Adam about the Donald he will really make for some entertaining politicking regards Sir Stu Knight of the 10 CFR 50 appendix B jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs you've got karma yeah nice i want to talk about my friend Donald later versus Sir Tim Nonamus. I dropped 200 bucks from parts unknown, and have no idea where they came from. Hey what was... you sent me a... So that's pretty much all we got there. That's for three shows so that's not really a lot. Yeah it is for three shows yeah. But you know people use July 4th. We always suck on July 4th in getting support i have to say

1:50:06 It's not a good day. It's not a good day for us. No, but we have... Devorak.org slash NA that'll help. Yeah we have to wrap this up. I didn't...there was some jingle I had to keep the 7415 is that for later? 741 I don't know That's the total extent of the pre-production that's for later because what's happened we're gonna do the retaliate for the oh, yes Okay. I got it. I got I know what you're talking about. I got it okay before we move on I want to mention a quick PR mentioned from This is, um... So Ramsey Cain? Yeah sure. But you know so I'm watching television and there's a they did a special on the-I should have clipped this damn it! There was a Today Show or one of these shows they have all these old people and they somebody some guy who is 105 got married to his longtime girlfriend who was 193. He's tapping that huh

1:51:03 And so they start, they interview him after the like in the afternoon and they go I'm so happy to be married. She's going on and on about it and she says what do you think about this? The old guy says when did I get married? No! That was live? It was serious, I'm telling ya that guy wasn't acting like a joker Oh man Sir Ramsey Kane, in the morning. Hope everyone had a well-deserved break this last week I'm going to DEF CON again this year we'll be having another No Agenda meetup details will be on noagendacd.com and don't have a date time or place chosen yet as it needs some feedback from potentially attendees if anyone wants to join me please have them contact me via noagendacd at gmail.com or no agendas cd on the tweeters and he says we will try to be a little more organized this year well you're off to a good start

1:51:53 We have nothing. Yeah, there's a little bit of it. I see you didn't have us mention it. We have nothing and please help us out all right? Hail Apple Sir Ramsey Kane There you go. So yes, we will have another show of course coming up on Thursday I will be doing that one here from Rotterdam as well before I eventually return to home base and I'm kind of getting ready to go home Dvorak dot org slash n a by doing the very important work of going out there and propagating our formula Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth don't forget your roll of quarters Shit

1:52:35 Did you notice that Ramsey King does this great job of putting together these discs of clips and segments, show segments. He did a whole show for us once but I have to say the guy who's doing clip-a-day on Twitter he has done a pretty good job. I think he is doing too many clips of the day But at least there... Well, there's two guys. There's one guy on Twitter and he is gone back through all the episodes and gives us the clip of the day from the episodes. And there's another guy who was doing famous no agenda quotes going back to this episode. Yeah I haven't seen the No Agenda Quotes Guy. Well they're usually my quotes

1:53:19 Oh, that's probably why. But the clip of the day guys is got to... So look around on Twitter for this piece I think just Clip Of The Day is the name of this account. So I came to the realization as you know kind of been following him as much as I could because obviously looking at a lot of European news and by the way as I see this on Sunday the 12th still no deal in Greece and there's a gernoon jizzle bloom anyway No, it's still not happening. Donald Trump! The Donald? I figured it out. Okay. It took me a while... Wait wait what was the question that you figured out? Well there was no question just all of a sudden it hit me but You figured out the meta of Donald Trump Yes yes yeah yes Donald Trump is producing a reality show and we're in the middle of it right now this whole thing has got to be run by Mark Burnett

1:54:20 Everything is so perfectly orchestrated. It's beautiful I mean this is top quality, top-notch entertainment and I don't put it past him Maybe not truly a reality show but he is controlling a lot of what's going on and he's good at it What Trump? Yeah! Oh, I'm loving what he's doing You know this is an interesting idea because its possible that he just making fool out everybody Well, let me... I have a couple of things to play. So what we're seeing is the reality show that doesn't have.. so we're seeing the next generation reality show which is more like performance art free in free space. It's totally performance art yes! In free space? Yes and what I figured out with this thing about

1:55:10 the way this has been sculpted what he said about Mexican immigrants. So, you know everyone's firing him and all... This is all not even completely true You know he always said if it was going to run for president then he would stop doing the NBC show The Your Fired Show whatever celebrity your fired? He said yeah And he's done it for 14 years Yeah so this is It is so well orchestrated It makes so much sense to me and then when you see CNN They put a montage together. Ultimately, I'm going to get to what he actually said because it's interesting just to see the deconstruction that we can put in place of what the media has made this Trump quote and then what he really said so we're going in reverse order It's kind of like...it's a gambit So here this is CNN on their...they're playing as a vignette between stories and they also have it on their website

1:56:07 Our country is in serious trouble. China! I beat China all the time When did we beat Japan at anything? The US has become a dumping ground for everybody else's problems. Mexico, lots of problems. Drugs, crime, rapists... I speak to border guards! In the Middle East Islamic terrorism they've become rich. I'm in competition with them They just built the hotel They took the oil ISIS has the oil I love the military and i want to have the strongest military. Iran is now taking over Iraq, China has our jobs Mexico has our jobs Our enemies are getting stronger and stronger by the... Do you see what they're trying to do? They're trying to do what our producers actually can do very well put together someone's nutty ass words and make into something entertaining Wait wait wait hold on a second

1:57:00 This is from CNN? Yes, this is produced from CNN. Why? Because it's a part of the show! Well yeah I get that but this seems so out-of-place for CNN to actually produce something that You know, has some- Hold on a second. They have this entire new division which is creating content what we would call native advertising for people who are paying them to create content I would say this is from some super PAC who said make something really shitty about Donald it may be I think it's from Donald Trump himself Yeah cut that shit up This will be funny

1:57:38 And people will start hating me. Keep it going, keep it going! The problem is when you listen to it and its got that beat... It's stupid! ...it's almost hypnotic, it's almost like you've become Donald Trump Yeah but then in the crazy version The version your supposed to believe in When he's saying just crazy stuff Today we have a disaster All of this is edited. It's all different pieces, but it makes him sound just completely stupid. I understand that we've heard all these various things here and there. Alright so that is... I'm liking it!

1:58:26 Yeah, of course. That's the whole point in this reality show you gotta have that. CNN want me to like it though they trying... It's not a good... In terms of just ridiculing the guy if he wanted just ridicule the guy I could do a better job at that. I don't see this as being a very negative piece if actually makes him sound oh that's interesting. Oh politicians are liars yeah I knew that. I think it loses I think it loses something without the visuals. For instance, we said when did World War... When did we beat Japan at anything? They flashed World War II question mark on the screen. Well, they're ridiculing him with counter messaging. Yes exactly. Okay now I'm in and then he says art of the deal and then it flashes available now on amazon.com

1:59:11 So, yeah. They're counter-messaging him visually only? Yes! Yeah... So if this thing's taken out of context it just all you hear is his messages You don't get the jokes But how.. but that's an... This is something I hadn't considered Take away the visuals and then Well, y'know this is your theory about acting Mmhmm What is that? Don't marry an actress. No, that's my theory. That's my theory about acting is that when you just listen to them act as opposed to watching them act it's a whole different experience Yes And most actors especially the TV actors can't act and you can only tell when he just listened So because we're only hearing this and your response was very different I'm thinking why am I... Why is John not getting this and of course I had seen the video

1:59:58 But what message do people who see and hear this really retain? Do they retain what Trump is saying, and are just distracted by the visuals. Ha ha ha that's funny! So maybe this question... Maybe this really is a pro-Trump piece because it works so well on the psyche It gets these little nuggets into your brain that the hypnotic music has put in there while you're distracted with humor Which is the best way to put information to people's heads when they're laughing This could be a pro-Trump piece. Your original thesis may be mistaken." Let's listen to another...this is where they're taking his comments about immigration out of context, because if you ask anyone today on the street what does Donald Trump say? He said all Mexicans are illegal aliens or rapists and murderers. That's what people believe he said

2:00:52 It comes from pieces like this Donald Trump's White House bid is putting a dent in his wallet How much has this cost you? I mean a lot Oh, it cost me a lot. Trump acknowledging the financial fallout from his controversial comments about illegal immigrants coming from Mexico They're bringing drugs They're bringing crime they're rapists and some I assume are good people Now that is really Journalistically so wrong when you hear what he really said. I just have to replay that sequence again because it's really incredible the CNN voiceover says something and they just stick his piece of his words behind it, It is really out of context. His wallet!

2:01:37 How much has this cost you? A lot. Oh, it cost me a lot. Trump acknowledging the financial fallout from his controversial comments about illegal immigrants coming from Mexico They're bringing drugs They're bringing crime they're rapists and some I assume are good people Since those remarks many of Trump's business partners have cut ties with the outspoken billionaire Don't listen to all that. Let us listen to what he actually said And it was in the context of the United States, America getting the pants beat off but off of us in any kind of trade anywhere. When did we beat Japan? They send their cars over by the millions

2:02:23 And what do we do? When was the last time you saw a Chevrolet in Tokyo. It doesn't exist, folks! I love him! This is great! They beat us all the time... When did we beat Mexico at the border?! They're laughing at us and our stupidity and now they are beating us economically. They are not our friend believe me but they're killing us economically The US has become a dumping ground for everybody else's problems. It's true, and these are the best and the finest when Mexico sends its people they're not sending their best They're not sending you They're not sending you They're sending people that have lots of problems And they bring in those problems with us

2:03:27 They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. They are rapists and some I assume are good people. That's a little different than what is being made out to be Well when he first gave that speech which we did play before They were just...they immediately cherry-picked. I mean, everybody in the media has decided that Trump is a clown. They don't like the guy and he's a blowhard. He is no doubt...I mean he is a blowhard. There was no question about that. And he's a different style of personality than they're used to dealing with and he berates

2:04:06 anyone who's on, you know...opposes him and the media in general. And he just... He has this really... He is relentless I mean he did it with Rosie O'Donnell and all these people that they say anything bad about him and he just goes nuts. I think the guy is incredibly entertaining and I think he's more of a threat as a candidate than people want to believe. They just completely marginalize them. Yes. They don't want to take him seriously at all. If he gets up on the podium in the debates I mean, he's got the Rick Perry possibility of making some stupid gaffe. I don't think...I think he's indestructible! He can make any gaffe he wants but he typically doesn't. He is really good at this and you know he announced officially i guess

2:04:50 I still don't know what that means, but maybe this time it's for real. They're really calling his bluff." David Strockmann No, you're not sufficiently... What that means is that you now have to obey certain laws. Adam Bauchner Right. But has he filed the paperwork or did he just say...? David Strockmann As far as I know, he's totally in. Adam Bauchner Okay. Good! Good! It's got the Republican mainstream freaked out. Yeah, but people love him! You know you said this before there is no two parties it's just two versions of the same bunch of assholes and they are going at... The Democrats seem to be going after them harder than the Republicans and the Republicans know what to do And the Democrats are going after them big time as though they're trying to protect their Republican party Oh and then in that case we need to listen too my friend

2:05:36 From MSNBC, Chris Matthews. I think he has a lot of information on everybody He's ready to go after guys like Charles Krauthammer with tremendous information! He's already done the oppo with every journalist around so it's like...he is ready with the worst stuff you know? To throw at you It's almost like you used to read about in the days of Baghdad under Hussein where You didn't want to be in a restaurant with one his kids Uday or Qusay because they might make eye contact with ya You make eye contact with their girlfriend at the time and you're dead the next day. So, I mean it's going to be dangerous territory out on that stage." Saddam Hussein? That's an associative reference which we talk about a lot in this show where... Very well done! ...you have- you're talking about one person then you start talking about Hitler. But Saddam Hussain is good. It's the extreme version of this idea. Yeah, it's really good. I like it.

2:06:31 That's fantastic. It's really beneath Chris Matthews and all that stuff. Yeah, well Donald Trump is going to be incredibly entertaining and he's won election cycle too early according to your theory which I buy into that we have to have a... it would be great to have a female Democrat for one term and then we have a Ronald Reagan type Republican That's the cycle? Yeah, that's exactly what was supposed to happen. So in 2016 we're getting a female Democrat who is either going to be Hillary with her backup... Now I'm convinced that

2:07:08 Warren was always brought in as the backup. That's why she got a high profile all of a sudden wrote that book She wasn't going to run head-to-head with Hillary now, she's the backup So he's the back of it Hillary goes down and flames somewhere along the line between now and November 2016 Hillary is already born walks right in Hillary is already putting out subliminal messaging Now my theory that Well, we both have the same theory except different timing that Bill is gonna have to go. He's gonna have to die." That's what she would want for the sympathy vote timed perfectly. Yeah and this is... Do we maintain this theory for a year? And then we don't want anyone to die but... Four years at least. We don't want anybody to die but... It's just logical thinking. All we're doing is we're not trying to be sick about this

2:07:58 We're making a logical...we're looking at these people and we're saying, what logically would they do if they were the horrible people that we think they are? What would horrible Hillary Clinton do exactly. Yeah, what would horrible Hillary do? So now the theory is that he would die but it would be launched as from The Secret Service probably, it'd be launched as kind of the unofficial story that he died in the saddle on top- That was my thinking. Yes exactly on top of a hooker Yeah, I don't know if the...yeah. That's my thinking is, I think that's kind of a humorous wishful thinking and maybe wishful thinking but yeah that'd be great. Well I think Hillary is she's messaging this and she's not talking about just some two-bit whore no she's thinking high end escort

2:08:47 And it's all—I saw this interview, I'm like, oh my God. She is just telling us what's going to happen and that it's going to be a high-class hooker. Have you given any thought to the woman who should be on the $10 bill? I am very torn about it. that as a compromise you would basically have two people on the same bill one would be a woman. That sounds pretty second class to me so I think a woman should have her own bill and it may be more appropriate to look at the 20 than the 10, i don't know we'll see. High end hooker on the bill! Okay you get clip of day 2 that is unbelievably funny

2:09:50 The great story here, sorry there you go Isn't that crazy where'd you get that? It's for did she did the big interview with what who'd she do it with them. Did one interview made with CNN I guess I think yeah, she did a big interview with CNN. And it's just like on the bill? I want a woman on the bill! No not some 10... but maybe it'll be-I don't like shared because she doesn't want to you know, she doesn't like the idea that he would be in like a bisexual threesome. You know, I don't want two people on the bill no no especially not a man and a woman. She says it

2:10:33 Wow. I think your interpretation of it is wild too! But there was still no death? Well, the print on the bill is always whoever's on the bill is dead so there's some death involved but yeah okay well we'll stick with this we still got over a year Bill looks like crap you know they made him to look he just doesn't look good So any of this is possible. Yeah, it's problematic I still think she's gonna have trouble getting to the end of this and they get that's why Elizabeth is ready To go she should just move right into that spot you'll have less baggage People want they like her actually if you really if it comes down to it If they were given a choice women that we've had plenty of examples of this We've shown them on the show forever where they do

2:11:21 progressives and the female Democrats like Warren better than they like Hillary. And I believe that...and she'll be sitting there, she's ready to go, she'll be ready to go. Vice President is gonna be a little harder on her call. Do you think she really doesn't know that she is just running herself into the ground? That Hilary Clinton... Yeah, is she so convinced of herself That she's invincible and she can do it? I'm mixed about this. I feel that she either knows what she is doing, and doesn't really want to run... And she is going to pan it off the war end no matter what. And she just gonna score a shitload of money! Maybe kill Bill. Put some woman on the bill not just on the 10 but on the 20 High class hooker Hey No bisexual threesomes Yeah thats an interesting clip The truth always wants to get out

2:12:14 Now did you read this article which was in the and I saw it in the paper version even, in the Daily Mail about the mini ice age coming? Yeah. Isn't that great? 2030? Apparently the Sun shuts down every few hundred years for like a decade and creates a mini Ice Age And this is what happened when The Thames froze over in 1645 Yeah, there was a mini ice age going on. So we're due for one and is this credible? Have you... Yeah I think it's credible and i think that can happen. That's why there's this big rush The Maunder Minimum. I would say that the global warmists they are rushing their running around oh so last day we're gonna do point of no return We gotta do this, we gotta do that They've got to get some things I think they may have enough already but they have to have enough things in place where they can take credit

2:13:06 for the mini Ice Age. Right, so it'll reverse right? Right. Oh just in time yeah we went overboard a little bit but it was better than the other thing that could have happened Yeah I like that! Yeah so I think that might be in play Huh Oh, we missed. We dodged a bullet. Climate change is real! It's real!! It's real!!! IT'S REAL!!!! Alright then I... so from the Agenda 21 Clima- actually we should probably play the climate change jingle. We haven't heard that one in awhile. Very nice. Here is uh... Man my throat. Gina McCarthy

2:13:49 And she is the director of the Environmental Protection Agency here in the United States, if Gitmo Nation proper. She's being grilled by Rohrabacher. Now he's a hard-ass... I watched this hearing and it was They were just throwing it at her. I want to help you do a good job of... whatever she's easy to not as bad as Lisa Jackson who would always be there with our where their chin on our hand just like you guys bore me yeah she was arrogant now she said Apple and she still arrogant

2:14:26 She probably, it was the Apple watch. Probably her idea they should blame it on her and fire her. Yeah we okay if you're going to do tech news No no not doing tech news. We'll talk about that in a minute I want to go to Gina McCarthy from Boston And I think no one knows the answer to this question. I think they're going about it all wrong, but either way it was fun freedom responsibility openness of government etc Let me ask you what percentage of the atmosphere is co2 What percentage of the atmosphere is CO2? Can you say the word in a sentence, please. What percentage is CO2... She's like that I mean that wow she's in trouble from the get-go on that one Freedom responsibility openness of government etc Let me ask you what percentage of the atmosphere Is co2

2:15:21 What percentage of the atmosphere is CO2? I don't... Okay, chat room says he was supposed to say okay Google first. To get the answer. Don't have that calculation for you sir maybe uh you could tell us what your personal guess is on what percentage of CO2. I don't make those guesses, sir. Bummer! You're the head of the EPA and you don't know? You have all these laws based on... Oh we are going to get your staffer to tell you now. You can see this... Early out in the EPA and you did not know what percentage... Wow!

2:16:04 policies that impact dramatically on the American people and you didn't even know what the content of CO2 in the atmosphere was, which is the justification for the very policies you're talking about. Now before we go on... Wow! Yeah this is incredible so it's 440 parts per million shouldn't we be able to with our common core math shouldn't we be able to figure out what the percentage is? You and I, like together? Probably. I'd like to understand so isn't it...so if let's just say 500. I don't believe that that's the number Well its 400 parts per million because we went through the 350. Oh because the 360 guys won. The three- That's not what you wanted to read. 350 guys. But there is 360 now okay? The 360 guys! Yeah its 360

2:16:57 No, but it is now the 360 guys. I'm gonna email its 350 you dorks yeah got a 360 360 guy's and now as before hundred But anything it's 450 let's just say 500 just to make it easy for the math 500 parts per million So how many percent? Is that then of 100% well should we be able to figure this out oh 550, 500. Okay I've got it should be 0 point... Yeah you can't figure out but you need a pen and paper because you gotta do your zero. Don't you have your abacus? Zero point is it's zero point zero zero five no it's zero point zero zero zero five I think

2:17:42 Listen to his he has the math. I just don't know if it's correct no, thank you If you're asking me how much co2 is is in the atmosphere not a percentage But how much we have just reached levels of 400 million? That was very clear what I was asking shut up man Oh let me ask you if See, are you right? It would be point over five by based on 500 parts 0.05 Yeah, point over your zeros around you can get to that number right and Is only 1 10th or excuse me one half of one tenth of a 1%? Of the atmosphere one half of one tenth of 1 percent is that 0.05 sounds right

2:18:25 And you believe that this minimal, tiny element and by the way only 10% of that from what I understand is actually man-made. And of course whatever your suggesting and it's being suggested as the basis... Too much logic! ...creating these, these what do we consider? Yeah 0.5%, that is .0005 Draconian controls is that 1 tenth that is man-made of the one half of 1 tenth of one half of 1% that will have an impact on the weather to the point that it will actually impact people's health. The gentleman, time has expired. Thank you very much.

2:19:22 Foreign Farts for a Million-something. I'm just the bureaucrat, what would I do? Logic don't get it! And did you hear Michelle Obama to the indigenous peoples of America and there's been a big Facebook thing about they're bringing in American Indians Native Americans i should say I thought it would be politically correct. And they have, oh so you want to kick illegal immigrants out? And you see a picture of some Native American with the feather headdress and everything and he says when are you guys going to leave? You know like okay ha-ha! I get it we're really the illegal immigrants Okay Now long before the United States was even an idea

2:20:13 Your ancestors were harvesting the crops that would feed the world for centuries to come. And she's talking to Indian youth, actually Native American youth and places like Seattle in Michigan and natural wonders like Niagara Falls in Yosemite can only be named using your native languages Your artwork has inspired generations of artists Yeah thanks for Kanye Your healing techniques have spurred great medical advances and saved countless lives. One of your early democratic institutions, the Iroquois Confederacy served as a model for the United States government." What? Is that true? I thought the French... That French guy's book. There is probably some truth to that. I don't know offhand. They did have

2:21:12 A government that Iroquois had, they're a very advanced group and it's possible we stole some of their ideas. It wouldn't surprise me." Well it wouldn't surprise me either when you hear the next claim... Uh oh! And today on issues like conservation and climate change We are finally beginning to embrace the wisdom of your ancestors Wow man how come we didn't listen? This reminds me of my favorite. So I'm hanging out with some guys in Washington State, and I decide that I wanna go check out the upper left-hand corner of the country... Adamus What is it called? John What's it called? It's a corner of Washington State. Adamus It's called The Corner Of Washington State? It doesn't have a name? John Well what its called has no name for but it's on the Indian Reservation.

2:22:01 And so you have to go through this huge Indian reservation to get to the corner. I don't know why they don't make this a tourist attraction, well now i do know why! There's no real road and then you have to drive on a dirt road and then you can get to the very upper left hand corner of the United States, continental United States You can be there, you can be at that spot. It's just a spot I wanted to check out. Okay we get it! We get it! You're obsessive compulsive, you're strange man... You want to see- You're way up in the air, it's like on a cliff and your overlooking this cliff and you look over the cliff And you look down and its apparently a.. I guess a general Indian dumping ground and theres old washing machines, derelict cars, dryers, television sets Really?

2:22:55 Oh, the Indians. These Indians were all freaky about conservationists and they drive these trucks that's why there is a road there! They drive these trucks to the edge of the country and then dump crap inside The huge files are massive. Well, that is a fine solution to climate change! Well if nothing else it gets rid of some of these things and maybe they wash over Japan I don't know... Hey you're a little low on volume. Come back to the mic man, you're very low on volume Oh i'm right on the mic Then crank it up something's happening Yeah, there's nothing crank up. I have it well I could make me but again you weren't even punches in the noise gate there for a minute Really? If I turn it out there you go yeah, that's not where it belongs Anyway did you hear this story? Yeah? No, I heard the story yes story came through okay I was laughing we liked it But I don't want to demean the local Indians of their no that's not a good policy now They sell the firecrackers which has now been banned so they guess they're out of business

2:24:01 It does have these what's cool when you go to the mayor we should visit up there this area And I can't remember the name of the Indian tribe, but it's this huge reservation They have a longhouse there that you can go visit. That's kind of cool Longhouses are these big meeting places and they also used to live in them? I guess but in this particular area There are probably thousands of bald eagles oh and you saw them Oh yeah nice They're all over the place. They're a pest! Our national bird... Anybody who has been around bald eagles would say the same thing. They are pests, they kill kittens, they grab kittens and little puppies. They are always on the lookout for like your pets. Oh no not little puppies we should have them in the morning to you troubled citizen

2:24:53 Didn't know this about the e-mail. They're horrible animal You're you're defacing our national bird if it's busting okay, well I'm very sad animal What can i say the eagle to go the the bald eagle the golden bald Eagle is that's that the golden eagles a different animal oh Okay, and they're okay. Oh, I have a gold any well The bald eagle is the one that's the real pest it's all the angles are little bit. I had a goal in the middle Golden eagle is freedom, John. How can freedom be a pest? A golden eagle is in... I'm in range of one of the... The golden eagles have like 500 mile or 50 mile range where they hunt and they come around every once in awhile so I have a golden eagle that comes around once in awhile. Yeah for tea. So I'm coming home- For PG tips. So I'm coming home and I hear something in the backyard. And I go up to the door and there's a bunch of seagull feathers all over the deck. Uh oh!

2:25:55 What the hell are these seagull feathers doing here? And so I start to step outside and there's a golden eagle sitting in the plum tree. He had eaten an entire seagull! Wow Yeah, these eagles are something to behold. So he ate the seagull and left just a bunch of crap all over the place as a mess. What does the eagle not eat? What does it leave behind? The beak? They eat rodents, a lot of rodents He ate the whole thing? Everything? Yeah, yeah. I couldn't find anything but a few feathers. Wow! And he's sitting there and he's digesting this thing because he just finished filling himself with this giant...with his big seagull which is good-sized bird and uh..and he looks at me gives me a look. I've had an eagle do this too. He looks at me and goes what do you want?

2:26:54 So I slowly stepped backwards back into the house keeping an eye on him and closed the door. Took a couple pictures through the window he just was not going to be bothered by somebody that's gonna interrupt his digestion Can you put these in the newsletter? If i can find them yeah Do you have a door open or something No, is the noise gate not working? I'm loud. I got to think all cranked up no No, but now I hear all kinds of background noise oh Nothing's changed. Yeah as a fan on or something it sounds like always the face the computer fan right? I think they can put your hands going crazy because warm in here okay um

2:27:39 That's my eagle story. Yeah, well it's a good story I'm sad to hear this that our national symbol of freedom is a pest oh The worst the kitten eating pest he has a kitten eater Like kittens you won't like eagles very disturbing very disturbing No, this is apparent. Mimi got to see one of these eagles around the house too. We have a lot of crows and they chase the eagles off so that's good thing because we feed chickens and so the crow like to eat chicken feed and so they will roust any bird that's around there because they think their going to eat the chicken feed or if the chickens get...this is the logic of a crow. Crows are very smart

2:28:23 The crows figure that if the chickens get caught and eaten by an eagle or another, any sort of prey bird they won't get the chicken feed. They make that much...they can do that much logic because no chickens, no feed, so they chase off the eagles? So a bunch of these crows will go after any birds in the area that may be threatening the chicken and also go after small animals that threaten the chickens because their food dries up But Mimi says that she saw a bald eagle flying and she saw it close enough that it was carrying a small kitten. Oh, that's so bad! Yeah, she said it was pathetic I feel really crappy now about being an American Well no, the eagle has nothing to do with being an American It is just a symbol It's my symbol of freedom That's a symbol of kitten eating

2:29:17 Insert your own joke here. Oh, yeah I know it was a good one Got a note from Brian the gay crusader. I'm planning it trip to Chicago. I'm looking forward to meeting this guy Okay, and Brian the gay crusader who has written many he wrote The White Paper on why Russians Russia's anti- Gay promotion law is really nothing more than a way to soak Hollywood. And that's about it, there's no great hate of gays in Russia and no more or less than I don't know America United Arab Emirates Saudi Arabia you know this

2:29:55 a little worse in other places. And then all of the sudden we get this report and actually I looked around for a report because Brian had picked up on the meme that was out there, and this is of course his continuation on making Russia in particular look like you know...a dog hating toilet with no bowl building gay hating creep Just a week after the US Supreme Court legalized same-sex marriage across America, an historic triumph for the gay rights movement it seems Russia won't be joining in the celebrations. President Putin's ruling party has unveiled a straight flag in a bid to combat what he calls gay fever. The straight flag John this is the straight flag to come back to combat the gay fever

2:30:50 I gotta look this up. Yeah, wait you'll see the flag Russia's straight flag. Why don't they just say Valentine's Day? I didn't know about this. They have a special Valentine's Day in Russia depicting a father mother and three children It contains the hashtag real families Moscow's United Russia branch says it honors the nuclear family and traditional Russian values

2:31:29 Despite earlier claiming the flag aims to counter the LGBT rainbow version, the deputy head says it is in no way offensive. We aren't saying there is no confrontation here we are speaking of a traditional family you can see there are a lot of children here many elderly young people people on bicycles and rollerblades we mean the average standard Russian family that is ours as you see illustrated in the logo mother father and three children Last week, Russian media reported officials were campaigning to ban the use of the rainbow flag including on social media. Rights groups continue to accuse Russian authorities of being hostile to public expressions of support for gay rights. Alright so the message is of course Putin certainly Putin's party hates fags! It's the hate fags flags straight flag

2:32:23 Have you found the straight flag on the Google? Yeah, it's just that it looks more like a poster they put up for some celebration of some sort. Well Brian The Gay Crusader did the research he says this flag was quite visible at the Day Of Family Love And Fidelity which is an annual countrywide celebration held on July 8th and many Russian producers that we have will correct us if that's not true. Over there, it's a nuance. The flag was not unveiled as a thing for all of Russia rather they were made by the Moscow branch of the United Russia Party, not the national party but a local chapter of the party and this flag was not designed by Russians it was designed by

2:33:00 Its roots are the Manif Pour Tous, an anti-same sex marriage group in France. And you can see if you do a Google image search, you can see this thing everywhere. So this is complete and the guy they interviewed... So they're smearing Russia again? Again! I'm telling ya know the reason why? Snowden Snowden! It all dates back to Snowden. None of this was going on, none of this was going on there wasn't any of this anti-Russian stuff until Snowden Once they took Snowden in and they didn't obey us when we told them, We want Snowden. That was that began it all this is the trouble you get into when you defy the United States So I know you have a couple of Dunford clips i'm going to play a very very short one just In this context and I want to sag into your clip What would you consider the greatest threat for our national security? And Dunford is Lieutenant General Joseph Dunford

2:33:58 He's full general, isn't he? Got four stars. Yeah, he's a very... super early recognized general. He is respected. Yeah, and he is a Marine. Yeah exactly. Today Senator is that Russia presents the greatest threat to our national security so if you want to talk about A nation that could pose an existential threat United States I'd have to point to Russia And if you look at their behavior it's nothing short of alarming So, before... By the way to show you how things have changed so radically in three years because of Snowden. When Romney said the same thing when he was running for president He was laughed! Ridiculed loudly by both sides of the aisle. Yeah ridiculed that we had the same thing That was in the debate yeah with Obama and everybody ridiculed him oh what an idiot Yep You're right

2:34:53 And that was before Snowden. So then we have Kirby, who is the new spokesholder of the State Department... He is such a departure from the friendly Jen and you know, the meek little Marie. You know, this guy is just a dick. And he's not... Yeah, Kirby is no good. He's not nice but he also doesn't answer questions and then he refused to agree with this statement from General Dunford. He has refused to say on behalf of the State Department that yes Russia is our biggest threat. Russia certainly represents significant security challenges to not just

2:35:35 U.S. national interest, but to the national interests of our allies and partners in Europe I'm not going to speak for General Dunford. He's a seasoned American general who is expected and he was paid to offer his frank military assessment And that's for him to speak too Isn't it confusing from this podium to say one thing? And the top military officials say something else I'm, uh...I don't know how to answer your question. But you don't seem to be saying that- do you agree with them? I just told you what our position here is That we are mindful of the security challenges that Russia continues to pose on the European continent Nobody's turning a blind eye to that. I don't speak for Defense Department equities and what- Defense department equities? Defense department leaders might be saying What does that mean, equities

2:36:28 Well, it means stock ownership. I don't speak on behalf of the shareholders of the Defense Department. Raytheon Boeing yeah i don't speak on their behalf The equities? I have no idea what he's referring to. He just threw the word in and what defense department leaders might be saying Maybe he said entities hold on do you say entities or equities I gotta listen to you. It's not like equities. I just told you what our position here is, that we are mindful of the security challenges that Russia continues to pose on the European continent and nobody's turning a blind eye to that. I don't speak for Defense Department equities... No he said equities! He may have meant entities and he just blew it

2:37:15 Yeah, because he pretty much was talking about the true shareholders who really we give our money to. And what Defense Department leaders might be saying... But do you agree with their position? With their statement that Russia is the greatest...? I'll say it one more time. Do you agree with that? I'll say it one more time. I think we all agreed and share same sense of concern about the security challenges that Russia represents on the continent. You did not agreed that it's the greatest threat to US national security. I've answered the question. No, no Yeah Yep, and that's not answering the question. Well if you're gonna go down that line before we go any further... Okay? I want to give you a really good example. Dunford who seems like he will be a good replacement for the little Irish guy Oh for the Joint Chiefs... this was during his confirmation hearing right? The Joint Chiefs of Staff yeah But talk about not answering your question. I'm going to play it two-parter here This is Dunford Ayotte

2:38:12 Ask question one and then we're going to discuss that and then I will tell you what i want you to hear. And then were gonna play AOT 2. Thank You, I wanted also ask you about The situation on cyber because the FBI director, we've received briefings on the OPM breach but the FBI director has said that he believes this is an enormous breach. Millions and millions of individuals who provided background information have been breached and that Director Clapper has said they believe it's the Chinese who have done this breach.

2:38:52 What do you think we should be, when we look at the threats facing our nation? How great do you think the cyber threat is and also how would you assess our current posture with the Chinese and how we should be addressing this situation. There was a couple of questions in there one of them was talking about the Chinese being responsible for the breach right okay then what do you think about our situation with the Chinese and how should we address the Chinese? And what do you think about the Chinese?" and all this. Now, I want everyone to listen...this is the way it goes. You're going to hear his answer and I want you look for the word Chinese in his answer. Then she goes on to the next question. My question is why did she go into another whole different question that I cut off right during that second question. Our current posture with the Chinese and how we should be addressing this situation

2:39:44 I would agree with you. The cyber threat is clearly very significant and frankly every week we learn a bit more about the OPM breach my number one concern obviously as a service chief is for the data in the well-being of men and women whose data that is haven't been compromised One of the challenges is, of course, attribution. But from my perspective if confirmed, my role will be to provide the president with a full range of options to deal with these cyber attacks which is what the OPM breach was." He's telling the truth. How stupid? But he is actually a good guy, he said look we don't really know I need to get the data We don't know who can attribute this to Well he answered another question which is a classic Wouldn't it be funny if... He said nothing about China Wouldn't it be funny... He refused to talk about China

2:40:49 There's not one mention of the word China or anything about China in his answer to her direct question about China. No, because he doesn't want to agree with it because he knows that it is bull crap He knows its bull crap Yeah But it would have been funny... So he decides to go off on his own It would have been funny if he... Because hes a Vietnam guy Right? I think so yeah It'd be funny if you just slipped in Gooks in there Look out! I don't know if it's the Gooks Yeah, I dont think thats gonna happen That would be funny I would say he has a thing. Cyber slant what? I have one clip of him and this is the Iran, this is bothersome in a number of ways and I'll tell why afterwards but this is him on Iran and the Taliban. I want to follow up more on that but also when ask you I saw reports that they were also engaged in supporting the Taliban in Afghanistan more now

2:41:41 Is there anything you can share with us on that? Senator, I've seen those same reports and from my perspective what i've seen in the reports is that they have provided some support to the Taliban in an effort to counter ISIL. Yeah senator, I think it's the slanty-eyed cyber gooks who are responsible. Don't worry ma'am when I'm confirmed I'll go ahead and give the president a range of options to take care of this problem. Besides your bit there... This is not likely This is a problem. I don't know what...there's some messaging going on here that it seems unlikely, and I'll tell you why is because the Iranians had long since told us not to deal with the Taliban because they feel the Taliban are A-holes. Secondly, the Iranians also have Shia and the Taliban are not, they're Sunni. And so there's...and the Taliban has got nothing to do with ISIL

2:42:30 As far as I can tell, this is a bullcrap meme that somebody's dropped in here. Why are they trying to... Well, I saw the report too and it was so good but there's something up with this. This isn't bull...this is nonsense. This isn't negotiating for the nuke deal or something. It's an idea but I found this to be very...and she just reads from some script Kelly Ayotte you know she's part of the cabal with McCain and Do you hear me at all? The other guy it's been very hard for me to interrupt today. Oh, I'm sorry no It's okay just one you probably can't hear me Skype is probably doing that No well maybe but I can hear you what he says don't care okay? I Don't know that you're interrupting me well make it on these roles No But I was going to say I was gonna interject and say wherever we plant ISIL We're planting them into be or connected him to the Taliban will connect anything we want to

2:43:28 Because that's our control mechanism and we can always say, oh we got to go and get ISIL. So we just insert it anywhere that there is a problem. Insert into Palestine. ISILs in Palestine. It'll be ISIL in Mississippi. Kentucky or Mississippi? Exactly! And as we're going into break... We really have to take one this is a long show Tell the affiliates Phileas, you may be going long. While on our break and I was in between English people and French people... And every single time we talk about stuff would usually wind up with me saying yeah that's what we do best but cyber war no! We really stuck snit with the Israelis and we're trying to screw with peoples SCADA systems and control their power plants so where they- I'm sorry every single time like we're assholes

2:44:18 It really didn't feel good. Every story, yeah well that's what we do. Yeah we just make stuff and go kill people if they're brown and live in sandy areas. And when you're floating around in those areas, you can always say what are you gonna do about it? Yeah. What are you gonna do about that's what we didn't do about it to what we do sorry Are you gonna do about it? Well, you knew about it and we suck yeah, that's what we do We'll start off with Dwayne Biblo from Calgary Alberta

2:45:03 145.30, but he says he gave 71.15 because he's Canadian and another 74.15 for his birthday on July 4th. Okay I'm down for the birthday. It was one point for Canada. Who is this? Great battle! Who is this? This is Dwayne Biblo. He should be on the list. Yeah got him Simon Tones, I think it's t-o-e-n-s in San Francisco. One two three four five nice nothing interesting to say he says Sir Dave Fugazotto and he's out somewhere military looks like

2:45:44 And he says keep up the great work David Vilux, Wilieu. Wilieux. Wilieu and one two three four five WGB wraps been a while hundred dollars some Kirkrod. Kerkrad. Limburg. Limburg. Limberg. Limburg. Nailed it Jack Ellis in Plano, Texas. That's in the Netherlands by the way, the Limburg. Jack Ellis in Plano, Texas $100. I Amsterdam in Amsterdam $100. Really? I Amsterdam

2:46:23 Yeah, what about it? Well that's a brand. I am the big sign. I Amsterdam like I heart and I Amsterdam I Am Amsterdam I Amsterdam That's what he said yeah, I wonder if it's the right I Amsterdam in this note Throw a de-douching at the end make a note put a d douching in there deduce the end author Oh sir our author go bits into Sir Hugger of kitties which probably did not appreciate The Eagle stories I think I saw Dom you missed Marcus the Rose He says, I hate your show. It makes me think." Kevin McLaughlin in Locusts North Carolina 8910 Gregory Ball 7777 from Atherton Greater Manchester UK click the button... You said should donate more but I'm skinned but those interviews were fascinating that's a got a lot of compliments for you interviews John was good and people like the 200 point seven show too. I found some of the compliments to be disconcerting

2:47:25 And I'll tell you why. It's because I'm a fair interviewer, I know what my limits are and people were thinking that was a great interview because they knew at least some of the topics that I was talking about as opposed to everybody else which is telling me there is really a problem out there with the people doing interviews. Maybe we should get in the game? No! I am pretty decent interviewer Yeah your good We'll do a couple more for future shows where we don't want to make any money. That's the other thing, by the way. So we do extra work and we make no money? It actually took me more hours to do The Interview Show than it does normally. No, it took me almost the same amount of time to upload The Interview Show as it does to do a show so really... I'm a loser! Yeah, we're just... There's a loser folks sorry but there will be one but not gonna be new.

2:48:18 Gary Radomski in Beatty, Nevada. 76-76 birthday deal for a best husband in the universe and we're putting him on the list. Anything else that we need to say? She says your analysis lets people in on the joke that is our political economic world environment a Wesley Dyke in Burlington, North Dakota. 7415. Christopher Dechter in Richmond Washington. Didn't know there was a Richmond Washington as I scroll down.

2:49:18 John Atwood in Cotter, Arkansas 7415. Isaac Piggott, Pigou, Peugeot in Trustville Alabama we're gonna bring his shock thing back as a pie donation in the next episode we'll talk about later Carl Hamburger Or Haberger. In Rochester, New York 7415 Eric Wilka in Rushaville England 7415 these are all 7415's Daniel Erlich in Bowlesburg Pennsylvania Sir Herb Lamb our buddy and Sugar Hill Georgia Mark Bensink in Lansing Michigan Zachary Gilbreck

2:49:58 In Cordova, Tennessee. Jason Fortune in Geneva, Illinois. Derek Cheron in Ludlow, Massachusetts. Justin Bloom in Madison, Alabama. And then Richard Moffitt at Parts Unknown. Curtis Golightly in Oklahoma City and finally Eric Rin-Aznaez in Lawndale, California where it used to be a counterfeiting area. Very famous for a counterfeiter there that used an inkjet printer and made the print up $7 million worth of money. Okay here we go Canada. Sam Yong in Toronto 7115. Serge Chad Biderman in Round Lake Illinois

2:50:42 What is this? Sean Lukachuk, Lukashuck in Winnipeg. Simon Rie… I'm sorry Scott Thompson in Tonawanda New York. Anonymous Lesbian in Toronto Ontario 71-15. Simon Reid, 71-15 in New York and Graham Bennett in Toronto Ontario. Well yes unfortunately I was going to do that at the end so don't have the page up but I'm going to bring the page up

2:51:21 And it's, okay here is what happened. We had, now listen to this the Americans came from behind because the Canadians did give up or something I don't know what happened but here is the vote as Eric calculated this If you want to count the turncoat Brian Edelen of Myrtle Beach's vote, he switched. He said he made a mistake. Yeah? If it wasn't for the switch it would have been USA 33 and Canada 31 because this come from behind which is typical in the United States to go ahead of the Canadians who were way ahead if you don't count it and go strictly by the numbers its Canada 32 USA 32 Oh no!

2:52:07 That's what I said. So it was not to find now, we could do multipliers because there is less Canadian audience but it still a broadcast for the Canadians and the Americans so I'm not gonna do the multiplying when I leave it stuck at a tie. No more votes coming in. It's a current tie. We will run another competition in the future as the tiebreaker." Okay. All right. Well, that's that. Well, on edge of my seat I will go back and we'll do a, what is it called? An audit. Make sure that this vote was correctly calculated. James Zucall in Los Angeles California 69-69 Wayne Larkome in Sunnybank Hills Queensland

2:52:53 69.29, Alex Walwonsidler, Walnsidler that's what it is in Los Angeles California $69 onward to SirScoops in Aurora Indiana 66.66 Charlotte Allen and London UK 62.07 Lynn Fogwell in Raleigh North Carolina A lot of great names. Carol Garrett in Eureka, Kansas 60. Anthony Cuzzella in Lost Wages Nevada 5678. Charles Hamill in Quebec Canada 5555. Kiwi Chris in Wellington New Zealand. Sirkiwi.

2:53:42 5555 Andrew Parlette, Double Nickels on the Diamond Elkridge Maryland Jessica Cipriano in Tampa Florida Sir Pate Schnakes Amsterdam 5432432 Thomas Geska I'm guessing in West Seneca, New York. 5133 the following people then are $50 donors only Rebecca Bolwitt Vancouver BC Jake Yakub Wojciak and Wozniak Wojciak Wozniak Wozniak in North Vancouver BC Jason Brockman in Hamilton Ohio Richard Gardner in Parts Unknown Paul Vela in Milton Keynes UK Emmanuel

2:54:31 Erragne, I guess. What do you think? It's a Luxembourg name. Emmanuel or Emanuel. Emanuel not Emanuel. I don't know. Erragne. Erragne. I don't know he is in Luxembourg. Thank You Luxembourg! Brandon Stewart in Dallas Texas and JM Caballero in Hayward California Jason Deluzio in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Robert Franklin in Bristol UK. Jason Verner in San Antonio Texas. Patrick Maycombe, Sir Patrick Maycombe to you in New York City Paul Webb Twickenham Middlesex UK 50 David Peat Aubrey Texas Jan van der Laan in Austin

2:55:20 I like it. Drenthe, nailed it! You in Netherlands you can get laid now here Gene Savella in Junction City California didn't know there was a place Alexander Sukhovy and Sukhovy in Sukhovy, Sukhovy, Sukhovy, Sukhovy It's Sukhovy not Sukhovy you don't...I got a long note from him In Moscow Tim Abel in Burgfield, Berkshire UK. A lot of Brits... Well we were gone the Brits came in. Brian Scozzaro in Chattanooga Tennessee and finally we're getting down to the wire with Corey McDonald in Richfield Minnesota nuts Christopher Walker no relation Depeer Wisconsin 50 Adam Beck also on Lost Wages Nevada

2:56:09 50. Matthew Januszewski in Chicago, Jason Deluzio in Chatsford, Pennsylvania, Sir Mark Tanner—this is for three shows by the way—Sir Mark Tanner in Whittier California, Brian Watson in Raleigh North Carolina and last but not least Sir Brett Farrell somewhere in Oklahoma I think That's it for a group of donors for show 736, 737 and 738. And we'll do a... let me see.. We'll do a jobs karma and deducing as requested And thank you all very much. Also, thank everybody else who's on a monthly program and we're looking forward to more support for Thursday show as we are back in the saddle if you know what I mean. Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! You've been D-Douche'd

2:57:04 You've got karma. All righty! Now we do want to thank the people who donated specifically $7.11 to welcome us back. Yes. Alright, here we go. Dwayne Biblo celebrated on the 4th of July. Kerry Radomsky says happy birthday to her husband George Radomsky. He celebrated on the 6th. Sergei Hadijim's birthday is today. Mark Bensik celebrated on the 8th Justin Blum says happy birthday to Daniel Moro, Sir Greg Stones is happy birthday to his fiance Jasmine Jay Dvorak turned 21 on 7-11 and finally Happy Birthday to Tina Marie Snyder who also celebrated on 7-eleven yesterday. Happy birthday from Uncle John and Uncle Adam here at the best podcast in the universe Let me see so we have Okay We have title changes one sir DH Slammer becomes the Baron of Central California Coast

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2:59:26 So, do you want to just... I could go on. There's a lot of other things. We can wrap and we can get closer. We got a couple things here. I do have one clip that should be listened to it's a long clip but it is well worth listening too. Okay This is the wow clip this would be my favorite clip in the show because I'm listening to this guy. This guy is Peter Sch He's a writer, and he's done a bunch of books. He's done... Oh yes I know this guy. I know who he is. Okay well he'd done a book on Hillary and then a book on the government being screwed up. And he makes us...I never thought of this like...I think we all knew this what he was going to explain. We kind of knew it but we didn't ever express it in our...I just thought that...

3:00:13 This is great. And so this is the wow clip and I think you everyone will love listening to this can make things simple but apart from dire emergencies they generally choose not to Complexity is a useful and lucrative method for the legal extortion of politicians Yes, that's right You know So many laws or regulations now it's impossible for us to decipher in The example that I would give as little go back and read Glass-Steagall, the big financial reform during the Roosevelt administration in the 30s where they revamped the entire banking system. It was like 35, 36 pages long.

3:00:48 Then, fast forward to Dodd-Frank in 2010. When you add all the rules and requirements I mean it's well north of 10 thousand pages long. Now has the financial system become that much more complex since the 1930s? It is a little bit more complex but it's not that much more complex. I'm absolutely convinced that even when it comes to writing regulations follow the money. And if you are a bureaucrat or you're congressional staffer and your writing rules and laws and regulations, there is no upside for you to write a simple and easy-to-understand law but if you can write a law that has teeth

3:01:29 that in other words people will go to jail if they don't follow, that it's complex and really difficult to decipher and understand. You've now got a business model! And in the case of Dodd-Frank you have that one of the congressional staffers who is a principal author author of that bill, once Dodd-Frank became law guess what they did? They left Capitol Hill and they got involved with a consulting firm to do what? To interpret this complex bill that nobody else could understand. That's, I think the problem that we have with rulemaking in the United States today. If you're at the EPA and your job is to write regulations and you write them simple and straightforward, that's great for the country but if you want to leave that job and become a consultant to corporations, right those environmental laws very complex, very hard to understand, you can leave the EPA and as the author of

3:02:25 those regulations, you can write a ticket to make massive amounts of money from large corporations who are desperate to fall that bill and can't understand it. Forget that? How about just look at Eric Holder! Well yeah he'd go back and forth now the thing that wasn't mentioned when he talks about this scam is that if you are the consultant, you wrote the law and you go into private practice after the law gets passed. And it's a complicated 10,000-page law which is pretty much the minimum nowadays for these laws. You've looked at them... Ten thousand pages. You can not only help a company understand the law and follow the law but if the company gets dragged into court

3:03:06 You make even more money as the expert witness. And you, when you go on to stand there I am the guy who wrote the law! It's just home free. Beautiful This is an outrageous scam that nobody is addressing. I'm shocked Shocked? Just a little update as we leave here, quick 20 second clip about the Iran negotiations. Of course we've blown through three deadlines now and this is so pathetic. A very fluid deadline for the Iranian nuclear deal. Meanwhile Secretary of State John Kerry his team along with their Iranian counterparts are at the negotiating table foreign ministers from five other nations involved in these talks left after the talks busted through a second extension in a week

3:03:06 You make even more money as the expert witness. And you, when you go on to stand there I am the guy who wrote the law! It's just home free. Beautiful This is an outrageous scam that nobody is addressing. I'm shocked Shocked? Just a little update as we leave here, quick 20 second clip about the Iran negotiations. Of course we've blown through three deadlines now and this is so pathetic. A very fluid deadline for the Iranian nuclear deal. Meanwhile Secretary of State John Kerry his team along with their Iranian counterparts are at the negotiating table foreign ministers from five other nations involved in these talks left after the talks busted through a second extension in a week

3:03:57 How sad is that? Everyone's like screw this, it's never gonna happen. We're going home and Carrie's like oh man but I promise this is the only thing I had to do! I don't know why I'm failing...I don't know what to doooooo Yeah there's something scamish about this whole process One last thing, if you want to go out on that. It's kind of funny. Okay yeah let's go out on it. Do you got a really upbeat funny one for us John? It is kinda funny but it's kinda pathetic at the same time Here we have... This is the Today Show We have The Newsreader Elizabeth, and then she's gonna throw it to the weather girl. And so this is... Wait isn't Al Roker on The Today Show? No no he actually seems to be on The Today Show less and less. Oh good. But you know he still works there but this is the new news girl I think they're trying. So oh no Natalie is her name. Natalie is the news reader and she's very attractive, very petite

3:04:58 And she's gonna wrap up the news with this little one item and then throw it to the weather girl to comment on the item. This is just, this is kind of material you get on national television these people are getting paid millions of dollars. Okay well first there was the infamous dress debate wasn't blue and black or white and gold but now this picture is going viral take a look and nail polish, and that high heel shoe. A Twitter user asking which color matches the shoe best? Is it the purple one on the left or the more pink one on the right? What do you think most people saying it's the bottle on the right I say the one on the left The debate rages on Well let's get a check of the weather right now from Dylan what do you see Dylan? I see the one on the left And then it switches to the one in the right

3:05:46 And then I just keep going back and forth, but your lipstick matches the shoes. So that's all that matters right now Yes But as you said earlier just go with a nice dark black that'll go perfectly with the shoes Looking at the weather for the weekend as we My god Yeah, no one. No wonder people are trying to keep us afloat That's just not good for you people stop watching that crap that is that cannot be healthy No, it's just no way that's healthy. It's just not okay all right well gonna be back in the saddle I have a ton more stuff so i'm excited about

3:06:23 Thursday? Yeah, we can... most of it's usable on Thursday for sure. And I'll have more! We'll have more on what's happening in Greece because by then we will know if the banks opened at all and uh... Just get a drag-on you know that... Drag-On. But it's gonna get kind of people are going to get hungry they're gonna get pissed off so It's a template and I'm in the middle of it as your fearless reporter here in the central storage space for all Russian oil and gas flowing through Europe I'll be Rotterdam the Netherlands in the autistic cave owned by Christina Curry. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where i guess to July 4th terrorist attack didn't take place but I am expecting it to happen on the 15th. I'm John C. Torak We'll be back on Thursday with more media deconstruction and assassination right here On NO Agenda

3:07:32 Let's take a deep breath here at the end of the day. I think what difference at this point does it make? I'm going to be telling the American people difference and this point doesn't make I want people to understand What difference at this point doesn't make this is being blown up But what different at this point doesn't make when questions are raised about me and my husband I think what difference at this point doesn't make this has been a theme for many for many, many years. What difference at this point does it make? Okay... I get it that's fine At the end of the day what difference at this point does it make? And the truth is thats the kind of person I am 100% 100% 100% Women just encircled the Christians and went Satan! Satan! Satan! Oh give us power! Hey no no no no hey listen

3:08:50 You're in my house. Hey, shame on you! You shouldn't be doing this. Maxi, do you know assassinations are specifically prohibited by Executive Order 12333? It was worth it. The best podcast in the universe! Adios, mofo. Dvorak dot org slash N-A Amen, fist bump