Episode 715 · Thursday, 23 April 2015

Tom Tatoe

A new Silicon Valley outpost for the DHS signals a deepening alliance between big tech and the surveillance state as global energy markets face antitrust upheaval.

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The Department of Homeland Security is aggressively expanding its footprint into Silicon Valley as Secretary Jeh Johnson announces a new satellite office to formalize partnerships with tech giants like Google and Facebook. This move coincides with President Obama signing an executive order for Information Sharing and Analysis Organizations, which grants private corporations civil and criminal liability protection when sharing user data with the government. Critics argue these initiatives represent a corporate-state merger that strips citizens of legal recourse while intelligence agencies like the FBI, led by James Comey, continue to push for encryption backdoors.

Global tensions escalate as the European Union levels antitrust charges against Russia’s Gazprom, targeting the Yamal pipeline in a geopolitical maneuver to curb energy dominance in Eastern Europe. In Japan, a radioactive drone discovered on the Prime Minister’s roof has sparked a security overhaul, while the handover of military operational control in South Korea remains delayed until 2020. Domestically, the closure of several Walmart locations has fueled conspiracy theories, though internal sources suggest a massive infrastructure remodel and workforce reset are the true drivers behind the empty shelves in Pico Rivera.

Personal moments include a posthumous knighting for long-time listener Crash Helmet Cathy and a technical debate over the TomTato, a non-GMO grafted plant that produces both tomatoes and potatoes. Executive Producer Ted Eric compares the labor of media criticism to the rescue efforts at Fukushima, while listener Tim Nutting requests a custom ringtone featuring the infamous Bomb Them audio clip.


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CHAPTER 01 / 48 Discussion

Bicycle Infrastructure, Traffic Congestion, and Safety Regulations

A discussion regarding urban planning in Berkeley and Austin focuses on the conversion of four-lane roads into two-lane roads with underutilized bike lanes, which reportedly increases traffic congestion and fuel waste. Comparisons are made to the bicycle culture in the Netherlands, where bells and lights are mandatory safety equipment. The lack of bells and proper lighting on American bicycles is highlighted as a significant safety concern and a sign of arrogance among cyclists.

berkeley· austin· netherlands· bike lanes· traffic safety· bicycle bells

00:00 You wrote it down and you didn't catch yourself? Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, April 24th, 2015 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 715. This is no agenda. Exonerated by a hair! And broadcasting live from the Crackpot condo in FEMA Region 6 in the capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where the trucks very slowly go up the road wasting nothing but fuel, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning! What are you still in Earth Day mode or something?

00:36 Well, it seems to me that when you have all these local governments, for example, in the Berkeley area, they take nice four-lane roads that keep traffic moving, and then they make it a two-lane road with two bike lanes that nobody uses. And so now the traffic gets all backed up and just wastes fuel because you're just sitting there slow. So really it's an underhanded slam at the bike lanes. Yes, actually it is. And by the way, I haven't really gone on one of my recent rents, but these guys, these bikers with all these privileges, you'd think they'd follow the rules of the road. They never stop at stop signs. They go through intersections, they're on the wrong side of the road, going the wrong way, they're up and down the sidewalks and then off the sidewalks. This is ridiculous. The only thing that bothers me really about the bicycle culture in America, and Austin right now, downtown, is all

01:29 broken up, all construction because we're building bike lanes and nice ones too. Bike lanes with a high curb to protect the bike lane. They don't have bells. This is so baffling to me. This is the number one. You buy a bike in that even if you steal a bike in Holland, right? Which is normal. You know, your bike gets stolen. I need a bike to go steal someone else's bike. It's kind of a circle of life. Yeah. So it's all based on Nazi philosophy. Yeah, precisely. Uh, you, the only thing you will have is you will have your own bell. You will buy a bell so you can ding people as you're, you know, it's a warning system. It's really good. Instead of, Hey, I'm coming. That is what I don't like. I just get a bell. That's interesting. I never noticed this, but you're absolutely correct. Nobody has a bell and they don't even have the little, they used to, when I was a kid, we had little horns. Yeah. Cute little horns and bells. We had the horns and bells and bells.

02:27 They did help you know the safety, but no these guys have no horns. No bells. No light lights I'm in the Netherlands around at night expecting that you to see them based on a reflector They might have in in Amsterdam or in the Netherlands. It's extremely arrogant They did you know you wonder why these guys get run down and they bitch I got run down. Yeah You need a light and you need a light in the back as well. I see people with big headlights. You need a light in the back and you need a bell. If you don't have a working bell in the Netherlands, you can get a fine. And rightly so. Nobody has a bell here at all. Nobody has them. I know. And they drive like maniacs. It's ridiculous. And then you have the one, the creepy one, which is going down the road and on the other side of the road you see this very, it's like a small headlamp. It's way up in the air. The guy's wearing it on his head. And they all have helmets by the way. Everyone's got a helmet. Not only are you dangerous, but you look dumb.

CHAPTER 03 / 48 Discussion

Smartphone Dependency, Messaging Apps, and Communication Etiquette

The transition from legacy mobile phones to smartphones is discussed, noting that services like Uber necessitate modern devices. Concerns are raised regarding the social pressure of constant messaging through apps like WhatsApp, Telegram, and Signal. The discussion explores the etiquette of replying to texts and the perceived social obligation to remain constantly connected.

nokia e71· iphone· uber· whatsapp· telegram· sms etiquette

07:42 But I have to say I don't understand how anyone gets anything done. I'm sorry. Well, so now I have a smartphone which I primarily phone on and off forever, but I probably well, but I primarily needed it for uber you can't really do uber on an iPod touch Sometimes the guy needs to call you and if you don't have a connection then you don't need lots of stuff So you need one and as a single guy, I think you kind of need one but oh my goodness and I this texting, which is the same as messaging.

08:20 This is a very troubling, troubling thing that's going on in society, John. Push the microphone button. Thank you. Or call me. So on the iPhone, you have the message app, which not only...well, once you receive a message from someone through the SMS system, then if it's an iPhone, it will then convert that into a message path that goes through the Apple servers. Now I've also noticed you can use an email address to just send something. This is a big problem, by the way. So if you have the message app, you can send it to an email address. And of course I'm saying this now, everyone's going to fucking do this to me. And then it pops up where your SMS would pop up. And SMS, where I come from, is that's what, hey, this is a short message. This is something important. When I was a kid. Look at this now. But now this is being abused.

09:17 But with also, you know, with the no limitation on 140 characters... which is where the Twitter limitation came from. And people just had these ongoing conversations, ongoing! And then there's...oh, it's not just messages, it's the Facebook... It's the Facebook messenger, and we have WhatsApp, and we have Telegram and Signal, and a million different...and oh, I'm on this. But somehow we've gotten into this, it's okay to just be It's messaging back and forth. And to me, I don't know what to do because if I don't reply, I think to myself, well, maybe this person thinks I hate them because I'm not replying. Or you go back and forth three times. And then I say...

10:08 But my phone is off most of the time. I don't carry the phone around with me all the time. I usually turn it off because I don't feel like taking the walk upstairs to plug it into the USB port to charge it, so I turn it off and downstairs and leave it there. Yeah, it could be off for days. I may not use the phone forever. I get I'll turn it on and there's a bunch of messages and I I you know there could be days old and then I will say yeah, no I will answer the call. You said yeah, no, you know I Know I you say yeah, you say no and on the messages. Okay. I'll do this. I'll do that and you just

10:46 and they come in two or three days later, then people say, oh, that guy, he's a slow messenger. No, he's a douchebag. No, nobody thinks that. I text you so many times and I've given up. And then two days later I'll get, you texted me? What was this about? Well, I don't know, man. You were live on some show and I was texting you with correct information because you look like a doofus. No. How about on the way home? No, no. Two days later with you. Two days later. There you have it. There's your solution. And you don't hear me complaining. Right. You feel obliged. No, I'm trying to... No, no, no, John, this is not about me. I'm trying to point something out that...

11:29 When all these people you see...I make these observations, I know you do as well. And wherever you are, if there's a cluster of people, they're all head down doing something. And the something they're doing is messaging back and forth. And I don't understand how...this is detrimental to the economy. Howard Baetjer Oh, I agree with that. And by the way, what you're mentioning, if you're gonna bring up that complaint, and I always find it annoying to see this when somebody's... so engrossed on their phone. But why does Hillary on her Twitter page... page, have her little individual picture of her looking at her phone, and the big artwork across the top of her page has got her looking at her phone. Now, I'm guessing somebody in the public relations department said, you're gonna look young and hip by being on the phone, looking at your phone. So there's not a picture of a smiling Hillary looking out at the camera or anything else. There's a picture of her on her phone texting

CHAPTER 04 / 48 Discussion

Hillary Clinton, BlackBerry Usage, and Political Branding

Hillary Clinton's social media presence is analyzed, specifically her use of photos showing her looking at a smartphone. This is interpreted as a public relations effort to appear "young and hip," while also serving as a callback to Barack Obama's early branding as a tech-savvy candidate with a BlackBerry.

hillary clinton· barack obama· blackberry· twitter· political branding

10:46 and they come in two or three days later, then people say, oh, that guy, he's a slow messenger. No, he's a douchebag. No, nobody thinks that. I text you so many times and I've given up. And then two days later I'll get, you texted me? What was this about? Well, I don't know, man. You were live on some show and I was texting you with correct information because you look like a doofus. No. How about on the way home? No, no. Two days later with you. Two days later. There you have it. There's your solution. And you don't hear me complaining. Right. You feel obliged. No, I'm trying to... No, no, no, John, this is not about me. I'm trying to point something out that...

11:29 When all these people you see...I make these observations, I know you do as well. And wherever you are, if there's a cluster of people, they're all head down doing something. And the something they're doing is messaging back and forth. And I don't understand how...this is detrimental to the economy. Howard Baetjer Oh, I agree with that. And by the way, what you're mentioning, if you're gonna bring up that complaint, and I always find it annoying to see this when somebody's... so engrossed on their phone. But why does Hillary on her Twitter page... page, have her little individual picture of her looking at her phone, and the big artwork across the top of her page has got her looking at her phone. Now, I'm guessing somebody in the public relations department said, you're gonna look young and hip by being on the phone, looking at your phone. So there's not a picture of a smiling Hillary looking out at the camera or anything else. There's a picture of her on her phone texting

12:27 I believe this is also a bit of a callback because it's her BlackBerry where you'll recall when Barack Obama was Senator Barack Obama was running for president. This was going to be the cyber connected president. This was going to be the guy he has got a BlackBerry and he's going to use it. I believe it's a callback to that, like here's someone who really knows how to use a BlackBerry, and when she uses it, people die. And she has her own server, she's that smart. Yeah man, that bitch should be president, I'm telling you. I pray every day. Well that's probably true, but whatever the case, and I said it and I caught myself. You said it in the newsletter. It's not in there now. Oh, you took it out, okay.

CHAPTER 05 / 48 Discussion

Moral Self-Licensing, Lyme Disease, and the Lime Challenge

The concept of "moral self-licensing" is explored through the lens of viral charity challenges. A new trend involving eating a lime for Lyme disease, reportedly promoted by Ryan Seacrest and Yolanda Foster, is criticized as a superficial gesture. The segment notes that the high citric acid in limes can damage tooth enamel and that the challenge has no logical connection to the disease.

ryan seacrest· yolanda foster· lyme disease· moral self-licensing· ice bucket challenge

13:10 It's so bad that when you wrote down whatever the case because that newsletter produced almost nothing in when you put when you wrote down for the newsletter in your draft and John always sends me the draft for spellings and mistakes and stuff which I also don't catch all of them, but I said I'm so somebody you you wrote whatever the case you wrote it you wrote it down, and you didn't catch yourself ah I expected you to catch it. I rely on you, my friend. So there is a new... You keep me on the straight and narrow. I want to identify a new self-moral licensing meme that is taking place. We will soon be enveloped in this, and it's a bad one. Now, to explain, the ALS challenge, the ice bucket challenge, and I don't remember what episode that was, but I'll look for it, and you should probably

14:02 If not, listen to that episode. Noagendaplayer.com, someone can probably find the exact link where we start talking about it. Many studies have been done on the concept of moral self-licensing where You do something like change your Twitter icon, or you know, you say, damn those guys, whatever it is, or you do an ice bucket challenge and you're done. And then you've given yourself moral license to no longer do anything else for charity, certainly not for that charity, or maybe any other charitable giving practice. You just don't do anything. You've done your part. You've done your bit. The new one, the new challenge is

14:41 Eating a lime for Lyme disease, and it's hilarious because you see people put a lime in their mouth I would have caught this by now. I haven't seen this it just started and I know why you haven't found it because it started with Ryan Seacrest has set this up says why I believe it will get legs well He does have the with the real housewives of Beverly Hills the Yolanda Foster the the Dutch girl who's a woman who's married to That's a Peter Foster the the songwriter musician is it I have no idea who you're trying to Frank Foster Well, he wrote a million hits for Houston

15:20 I don't watch these housewives shows. I'm just telling you, she has Lyme disease and so they've started off and they're getting all of this going and I think it'll get legs because it's so funny to eat a lime. Lyme disease has nothing to do with limes. I know. It doesn't even smell like a lime. David Foster. And secondly... From now on Fred Foster. straight citric acid at the level of concentration in a lime or anything but a Meyer lemon is so high that it actually attacks the enamel of your teeth and is not good for you. Great, then we can have another moral self-licensing which is save the enamel.

CHAPTER 06 / 48 Discussion

Leo Laporte, TWiT Network, and Showstoppers Bet

A personal anecdote describes a bet won against Leo Laporte regarding the name of a new show on the TWiT network. The winner correctly predicted the show would be titled "Showstoppers" rather than "The Screen Savers." The segment suggests that Laporte secretly listens to the program for content ideas.

leo laporte· twit· showstoppers· screen savers· podcasting

15:58 Whatever This is not gonna. I'm pretty I'm putting in the red book. This is not gonna catch on okay I believe Ryan Seacrest has the juice no it caught on if Leo does it Well, Leo is catching on you know what I hate and I do it all the time. Yeah, no yeah No, I see amazing. You know he was I did his show. Yeah the where I won I won the bet you won the bet Explain. Which was annoying. I can't remember what the bet was. The bet was, I said the new secret, unannounced show would be the Screen Savers. Showstoppers. Showstoppers. This is great. That is our new show. Showstoppers. We were just chatting, there's a bunch of people there, it was an anniversary show, and he said something that was so new to the No Agenda Show meme fest.

16:55 One of our analysis and he just kind of drops it in. I don't know that he knew he was doing it because when he's trying to needle me, I can tell. He has a certain way about him. But he just kind of mentioned something and he got it from the show. He listens to the show. He's a liar. Yeah, he listens. Of course he listens. Yeah. He wants to see what we're up to. He wants to see if we mention him. Is it less mentioned? We had a lot of interesting news stories this week. Yes, we did. Some good stuff. A couple of minor stories that I think are just kind of stupid. I don't know if they're part of the cluster or what the deal is. But we can play this clip, which is the dumb fucks try to join ISIL, which I thought was just...

CHAPTER 07 / 48 Discussion

ISIS Recruitment in Minnesota, Bill Clinton NGO Gaffe

Six Minnesota men of Somali background face trial for allegedly conspiring to join ISIS in Syria. The discussion highlights a speech by Bill Clinton in which he referred to ISIS as a "non-governmental organization" (NGO), leading to a critique of how NGOs are often involved in political instability. The segment questions the legal basis for arresting citizens for traveling to conflict zones without a formal declaration of war.

isis· minnesota· somali community· bill clinton· ngo· andrew lugar

17:36 Six Minnesota men will face trial for allegedly trying to join the Islamic State Group. They were arrested... Islamic State Group? What is this? ISG? You saw this before? It's called the Islamic State Group. It's a consulting firm. Islamic State Group. No, it's not. They were arrested yesterday on terror charges in Minneapolis and San Diego. In St. Paul today, the U.S. Attorney for Minnesota Andrew Lugar said the six were of Somali backgrounds and had been conspiring for 10 months. And nothing stopped these defendants from pursuing their goal. They never stopped plotting another way to get to Syria to join ISIL. They were not confused young men. They were not easily influenced. These are focused men.

18:21 Who are intent on joining a terrorist organization by any means possible? Federal prosecutors say the Islamic State group began recruiting in Somali community in Minnesota in 2013 if messaging if is if is is a the Islamic State group is a Consulting group then wait till you hear what Isis is Bill Clinton did a little speech and I was These are things we need to be thinking about in America as we work to restore broad-based prosperity, as we work to define our role in a world of competition from new and different forces to define the future. Arguably the most interesting non-governmental organization today, which proves the importance of inclusion by its shortcomings, but is formidable, is ISIS.

19:23 Wow! Wait, wait, wait for it. Dave, right off the bat for that. Yeah, I'll finish it and then I'll take the clip of the day. Listen. ISIS. ISIS is a terrorist organization, an NGO. It's a dessert topping and a FloraWax. ISIS is a terrorist organization and a non-governmental organization. You gotta love it. Thank you. I don't know, where'd you get that? That's an outsta...somebody sent that. It popped up this morning about 15 minutes before we started.

20:03 That is an outstanding clip because what he's saying is interesting because in the back of his mind he knows that all the terro... most NGOs at least... Are terrorist organizations. Are terrorist organizations. They're the ones behind the Arab Spring. They're the ones behind the Ukrainian mess. Yeah. How about Egypt? Egypt? Egypt? My babe, before I go to... I gotta need you. How about in Russia? Russia kicked them all out, the NGOs. Russia kicked them out wisely and so is Venezuela because they're always trying to... So I like what you said there because when you reverse engineer his thinking, that's why it comes out like that. And I think he... and it's sad because it's not something to be joked with, but I think he has the onset of dementia. This is insane for him to say. And for the audience to just sit there and go, oh yeah, it's an NGO. What?

20:59 And it's funny because I went to GuideStar, you know me, and there must be a million ISIS 5013C corps with ISIS in the name. I mean, not a million, but there's at least 500. I didn't have time to go through them all in the time that I had left. But maybe ISIS has an actual, maybe they are in it, who knows? Maybe they do have a non-profit status. A couple things about these boneheads that went, you know, the Somalians from Minnesota. Must be freezing their asses off up there. A couple things I wanted to kind of discuss. First of all, unless we've declared war, the Congress has declared war and we haven't done that since World War II.

CHAPTER 08 / 48 Discussion

RSA Conference, Encryption Backdoors, and James Comey

The RSA Conference serves as a backdrop for a discussion on the corruption of the encryption industry through government-mandated backdoors. FBI Director James Comey is criticized for his past roles and his stance on law enforcement's need to access encrypted data. The segment posits that intelligence agencies are engaged in internal turf wars over the control of cyber surveillance.

rsa conference· james comey· fbi· encryption· hsbc· backdoors

21:48 Why can't these guys go over there if they feel like it? They're Americans, they're citizens, they want to travel to Syria and go play games with these clowns. You know the answer. Shut up, Abe! What, you making problems, citizen? Are you part of ISIS, citizen? What's your problem, citizen? I don't see it. In fact, I believe if they had good lawyers, they would get off of these charges. Absolutely. Absolutely. Now, another thing about these guys, I don't have the clip of it, but I think it was on Democracy Now. For some reason, they have been bugging these guys' phones, I guess, for the last year.

22:25 which I don't know how they made this decision, of course they just bug everybody's phones. And one guy says to the other, he says, okay, well we gotta be really careful this time, because you know, we've made a lot of dumb decisions. You have. Let's talk about this for a moment, because I ran across a video presentation, which was done earlier this week at the RSA conference. I don't know much about RSA as an organization other than they maintain security products and encryption stuff. Can you tell me exactly what the RSA is?

23:04 Well, I've been to their conventions that they have and I've hung out with the guy who founded the company. I've hung out with him. And BizDoss, he's got some very nameless and unpronounceable... Is that his name? BizDoss? It's... I'd have to look it up. But it's a funny last name. Anyway, but they started off as a security company selling products, encryption products a lot, mostly. And they've somehow become so involved with the government and I don't know, it's almost like a government company. Well, that makes a lot of sense because who was presenting?

23:44 Our buddy, the trigger man himself, the man who used to say, yeah, you can kill that American citizen with a drone, go for it, Jeh Johnson. He calls himself Jeh, but when you spell it J-E-H, you're Jeh. Joe Johnson. what the government has done, they get a package to approve it and then they slip it back, they recode it and then you're supposed to use it as is. And it was pretty corrupt. It sounds to me like the whole encryption world is corrupt with backdoors, except for a couple of systems which you can't even get a hold of that are used by the Swiss banks. Well, I think that some, this is a very important speech, about 20 minutes. Of course, chop this down in some chunks, although the second clip is a little longer, but

24:48 Here's what I believe is happening. There is, of course, all kinds of infighting amongst the intelligence agencies. We've discussed this many times. CIA versus NSA, FBI versus CIA. And, of course, Comey, who was a crime fighter as a prosecutor in New York City, he's the director of the FBI, James Comey, known for incredible coup when it comes to locking up very dangerous criminals. You mean like Martha Stewart? That would be the one. And he was a director of HSBC, the bank, during the rate scandal around this also overlapping with the money laundering, drug money. That guy is so dumb when it comes to

CHAPTER 09 / 48 Discussion

Jeh Johnson, DHS Cybersecurity, and Private Sector Partnerships

DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson's speech at the RSA Conference is analyzed, focusing on his call for a "partnership" between the government and the private sector. Johnson's admission of using an iPod is used to question his technical credibility. The segment characterizes the DHS's push for cybersecurity as a "money grab" and a move toward corporatism, noting the revolving door between government and antivirus companies like McAfee.

jeh johnson· dhs· cybersecurity· silicon valley· mcafee· corporatism

25:35 anything really that he is supposed to know about, and he has that weird habit of, you know, going right, mumbling under his breath. They've given... The mumbling thing is great. So here's what I see happening. Johnson got put in, and by the way, he's out in 2016. This is a short-term thing. So they bring in the Trigger Man. I believe he is in there. And the way I understand his little talk here, all cyber belong to DHS. Man, he is the man and everything is going to be flowing through him. This isn't going to go over. No, but let's listen. First of all, so he doesn't have a tie on. I cut out the long winded joke because it fell so flat. But just so you know, he thinks, I'm in Silicon Valley. I'm going to be hip for all the hip kids up here. I'm not going to wear a tie. Good morning. How's everybody doing? Come on. Can we do a little better, please? A little more audience participation. How's everybody doing?

26:31 Alright, thank you, thank you. What a folk singer. Thank you for inviting me here today. I'm very excited to address this cyber conference, the largest one in the world. I'm so excited that to get into the swing of things, I am not wearing a tie. I am unrecognizable to my staff today. I did leave it in, I guess. It's not the biggest in the world because the biggest and the largest in the world was just in The Hague. So he's full of crap. All right, here is a this is kind of a lot of this is interesting, interesting blips and blops. But here is the straight into the longer clip about well, of course, we know what the mission is. Cyber terror, we need to be sharing information with companies, cyber security. Yeah.

27:23 is a major priority for my boss, President Obama. Now, arguably you work for us, but I'll let you slide. I just didn't like the way he said it. You know what I mean? My boss, Barack Obama. It just irked me a little. Yeah, he works for the public. Yeah, he reports to the president, but he works for us. So I don't know if you... The government has long since given up on that. Oh yeah, I remember that. It is a major priority for his entire administration. It is a top priority for the Department of Homeland Security. For me, personally, as Secretary, advancing the Department's cybersecurity mission is one of my top goals in office. Though I still use an iPod, I am learning. Now, so someone wrote this, either he wrote the joke himself, but

28:16 It really shows how clueless the guy is. What the F does an iPod have to do with anything? If he had said, I still use DOS or something, but an iPod? How does that remotely mean that you're learning? It's got nothing to do with anything. It's like out of the blue saying, you know, I still drive a Nash Rambler. But it's not... an iPod is not even remotely related. Right. If he said, I still have a flip phone or something, anything but that. So he must be writing this himself. And it was stupid and it makes him look stupid. And immediately all credibility is gone. And you can see the audience go... Why would you go up there and self-deprecate yourself like that? Well, in front of a group like this, when you're supposed to be the head of an operation. In the end, you'll see he's trying to get something from them. The Department of Homeland Security was formed in 2002 in the wake of the terrorist attack on 9-11. Counterterrorism is the cornerstone of my department's mission. But the reality is that in 2015,

29:22 Cybersecurity has become a mission of equal importance. Amen. Fist bump. Wow. So cybersecurity is just as bad as terrorism. Okay. Hello. Military industrial complex. Pay attention. Pay attention. Money bonanza. Money bonanza. My message to you today is this, the government does not have all the answers nor do we have all the talent by any means. He's also recruiting, you see. Cybersecurity must be a partnership between government and those of you in the private sector. I'm sorry, who made that up? Cybersecurity must be a partnership between government and you in the private sector. No. Um, fascism

30:11 Must be a collaboration between the government and industry Corporatism but cybersecurity No, we need each other and we must work together There are things government can do for you and there are things in jail You to do for us frankly. Oh, he hasn't asked he hasn't asked later on in private law practice where I've spent most of my professional life I was a service provider. I serviced Martha Stewart to jail. To private clients. I'm sorry. I bring that attitude to cybersecurity. Service me. I'm enthusiastic and proud about the direction our department is headed in cybersecurity. Okay, stop, stop, stop. If he's proud and this and that, he's already admitted that he's an iPod user. Yeah, he's a bonehead. That doesn't know anything. No. So how can he continue the speech

31:07 At all. He's already disqualified himself to give the rest of the speech. Well, he did it because he knew that the No Agenda show needed to, you know, have some content. We got plenty of content. Not like his. We're just getting rolling. Undersecretary Suzanne Spaulding and Deputy Undersecretary Phyllis Schneck, the former Chief Technology Officer at McAfee. There you go. So the people leading the cybersecurity charge are in the revolving door between the virus companies and the government as we've always said we're building an agile and responsive Cybersecurity capability wait for it. You're gonna flip

CHAPTER 10 / 48 Discussion

NCCIC Operations, Cyber Incident Reporting, and Vulnerability Mitigation

The National Cybersecurity and Communications Integration Center (NCCIC) is described as the central interface for cyber threat mitigation. Secretary Jeh Johnson claims the agency handled 97,000 incident reports and issued 12,000 alerts in 2014. The segment mocks the agency's "house calls" to private companies and its role in mitigating vulnerabilities like Heartbleed and Shellshock.

nccic· dhs· heartbleed· shellshock· cyber threats· incident response

31:49 The Department of Homeland Security is the US government's central interface with the private sector in responding to and mitigating cyber threats. This is important, John. Department of Homeland Security, they're the interface. DHS don't talk to NSA, don't talk to FBI, don't talk to the CIA. We're also responsible for the security of the federal civilian dot-gov world. What the heck? I didn't understand that. The federal civilian is it doesn't mean contractors? Oh, the dot. I think that federal civilian dot-gov world. He said federal federal.

32:29 civilian or... Yeah, federalcivilian.gov world. .gov, which... World. Some of those organizations that get to use .gov. I think that's CIA. When you're CIA in the Pentagon, it's civilian in the Pentagon. Maybe. Well, we'll have to work on it. I had to think about this. It means everybody, I think. Just report to him. Anyone who can use .gov or is allowed to. Yeah. That has something to do with that. is our National Cybersecurity and Communications Integration Center. Also known as the NCCIC. Thank God we have an acronym. NCCIC. The NCCIC! NCCIC. NCCIC. How do you spell that? Well, the acronym is N-C-I-C-C. NCCIC. N-C-I-C-C. But he says NCCIC like kick butt. Well, he kind of muffles it, but NCCIC. He says it's NCCIC. That's the acronym. Thank you. Thank you. The NCCIC is a busy place. It consists of

33:24 Representatives from many federal government agencies as well as the private sector on the NCCIC floor. On the NCCIC floor? Now listen... They have a floor to themselves. Oh yeah. It's a raised floor like a trading room with all the wires going to the data center. That's what he says when he's talking about the floor. In fiscal year 2014 alone, the NKICC received over 97,000 cyber incident reports from the private and government sectors. My Facebook won't load. 97,000. Hey man, my email seems to be blocked. And issued nearly 12,000 cyber alerts or warnings. Cyber alerts. 12,000? Where can I find them? Well, he's actually going to explain where you can find them later. Although, he announced this, but they're not anywhere on their DataGubster website.

34:14 Almost continually, an NKICC team is in the field. In the field! Making what is in effect a house call. House call! They're like doctors! On a company to assess a significant cyber incident and helping them to fix it. Hello, we're from NKICC, making a house call. I see a new show on TV, NKIC. NKIC, making a house call. You know, it's funny about NKIC, N-C-I-C-C, is that what it is? N-C-I-C-C, yeah. It also stands for the National Coalition for the International Criminal Court, the Nigerian Coalition for the International Criminal Court. Did no one check the acronym machine? It's got a bunch of names. Oh, stupid. And who would use N-C-I-C-C? It's too many letters. It's the same people who came up with ISIS.

34:57 For certain diagnoses, we bring in more doctors. More doctors? What the hell? Stop this, Johnson! You're making me crazy! iPod doctors! Fuck you! Sorry, it's the Tourettes, but that's insane. We bring in more doctors from the NSA, the FBI, or other agencies to- Why not just say techno experts, but doctor- Alright, I'll shut up. I'll shut up. The NCCIC identifies numerous vulnerabilities last year across dozens and dozens of departments and agencies of the US government.

35:32 We identified 265 instances of the heart bleed vulnerability. Oh, let me see SSH minus V. Oh, it's an old version. Yeah, we've discovered a vulnerability. We're really good This is where this guy is just he is a nincompoop and in a three-week period we reduce them to just two Oh Upgrade let me see LPM dash you SSH Thank you so much for upgrading my SSH. Last year we helped the private and government sectors address- He actually says government. He says government. Oh, he's a Republican. He's a Republican. He says government. Last year we helped the private and government- Oh, I'm sorry. I messed it up. Huh? Government. I wanted him to say government. Helped the private and government sectors address shell shock, black energy.

36:24 Hav-Ex, Black Off Point of Sale, Back Off Point of Sale, Lenovo, Superfish, and other vulnerabilities. My goal is to see the end kick move to an even higher and better level. And listen to what he describes here. It's one of the most beautiful descriptions of the protocol I've ever heard. We are enabling the NKIC to provide near real time automated information sharing to the private sector.

CHAPTER 11 / 48 Discussion

DHS RSS Feeds, Silicon Valley Office, and Digital Service Rotation

The DHS has automated the publication of cyber threat indicators in a machine-readable format, which is interpreted as a simple RSS feed. Secretary Jeh Johnson announced plans to open a satellite office in Silicon Valley to strengthen ties with tech giants like Google and Facebook. The U.S. Digital Service is presented as a way for tech talent to "rotate" between the private sector and government service.

dhs· rss feed· silicon valley· u.s. digital service· data sharing

37:08 I have directed our team to go full throttle on this. As you know, cyber security is all about speed. No, I would disagree. I think cyber security is about human intelligence, helping people understand how they can get tricked. It's not all about speed. In fact, sometimes you want to be very slow and take your time reading the email. Last week, the NKIC deployed the capability to automate publication of cyber threat indicators In a machine readable format. Oh, whoa, call Dave Weiner. They've made an RSS feed. We reached this major milestone five weeks ahead of the deadline. It took him five weeks to put an RSS feed together. This is insane. Does anyone in the audience go, hey, dude, you know, you can you can get a little apps and stuff that could make an RSS feed for you today?

38:01 You can find them on the libraries. This is what he's describing in RSS feed. Ahead of the deadline. Today we are sharing indicators with an initial set of companies and are in the process of adding others. Later this year, we'll be in a position to begin to accept cyber threat indicators from the private sector in automated near-time format. Near-time format? Okay, you bought your own words, douche. So you will be able to have an RSS feed reader. This is very good. I'm very impressed, Joe. And I wonder if that has anything to do with YouTube's change with their RSS feeds. You can still get RSS from them, but you now have to go through their new API and the new authorization scheme. I would think that that is the...

38:55 The occurrence of that change in the speech is a little too close to be coincidental. Near real-time format. Real-time format. Near real-time, let's get that straight. Correct, because it's an aggregator. So it's not exactly in real-time, but it's an aggregator. He's describing an RSS feed aggregator. We have set up the NCCIC as your primary pathway to provide Cyber threat indicators sharing to the US government. Thank you. Yes, the government is trying to make it easier for you Just to give all your users art to give all your users information to us today I'm pleased to announce that the Department of Homeland Security is also finalizing plans to open up a satellite office in Silicon Valley Yeah to serve as another point of contact with our friends here. Yeah, your friends are friends. Come on

39:44 Let's talk, we'll have coffee in the Nkick... In the Nkick lounge. In the Nkick lounge, yeah. We want to strengthen critical relationships in the Silicon Valley and ensure that the government and the private sector benefits from each other's research and development. Okay, please people, and you'll hear some other gotchas in a minute, he is literally saying, share the data you have with your Customers, or users I should say, because they're not customers, the advertisers are the customers, share that with us and you'll benefit. We'll give you something back, or who knows. But when they say data, it's not about the company's internal data. No. Why is it in Silicon Valley? It's for Facebook, it's for Google, it's for Apple, it's for all of these people. We want to convince some of the talented workforce here in Silicon Valley to come to Washington

40:41 The new United States digital service provides the option for talent to flow and rotate between private industry and our government teams. Rotate? Rotate? In and out? Now is this like a military thing? Is this US digital service? Yes, in fact. Between private industry and our government teams. This will build capacity on all fronts. I hope some of you listening will consider a tour of service for your country. For our country! A tour of service... For your country! This tour of service is an acronym for we're not gonna pay you very much. Yeah, just come on over. Tour of service. Be a collaborateur. Be a collaborateur, people. This is all good. You can join in, be a collaborateur, be a collaborateur. All right.

CHAPTER 12 / 48 Discussion

Liability Protection for Data Sharing, ISAO Executive Order

President Obama signed an executive order encouraging the development of Information Sharing and Analysis Organizations (ISAOs). The administration supports legislation to provide private companies with civil and criminal liability protection when they share user data with the government. This is criticized as a move that strips citizens of legal recourse against corporations that compromise their privacy.

executive order· immunity· isao· data privacy· consumer protection

41:37 I'm just pointing out a few of the options. This is just a money grab. We haven't got enough money wasted by the government. Well, this is equal to anti-terrorism, counter-terrorism. So yeah, it's a big money grab. In every one of these organizations, the military is going to do their own thing and they've already said so. We've heard many testimony where one of the generals says, well, we're going to put together a whole corps. You know, so this is going to address this because this is exactly the problem. I believe Johnson has been given the keys. After all, he's the trigger man. He was the lawyer in the Pentagon who would say, yes, it's a go drone that poor 16 year old kid who's drinking coffee. That's what he did for a living.

42:19 To encourage the private sector to share cyber threat indicators with the NKIC, the president also announced that we now support legislation that will provide protection from civil and criminal liability to those who share cyber threat indicators with the NKIC. Screw the laws to protect the consumer. Civil. Civil. Civil cases. Exonerated. The law is designed to protect the consumer. Consumer? Why do you say consumer? How about citizen? Why consumer? Just citizen. Citizenry. Giving you full immunity. You can screw over your customers.

42:58 as much as you want and they can't do anything about it because we've given you immunity. Civil, from all civil cases. Now this is not... They can't sue, that means lawsuit. That doesn't mean, you know, they could be creating... But he said criminal and civil. Yes. So they can be breaking the law besides screwing you and it's fine. They're good to go. Thanks for helping. Some more charity. Facebook, sign on to that. Oh, they will. And that bill will pass. Who wouldn't sign on to an immunity deal? Yeah. Seriously. Like you mean like the vaccine companies? Yeah, the vaccine companies of all day. Boy, oh great. We don't even have to do pasteurization anymore. Hell with it.

43:43 Let's, uh, do more sharing in this short clip. In February 2015, this year, the president signed an executive order directing the Secretary of Homeland Security, that's me. That's me! Just in case you didn't know because you're awfully quiet, you're not laughing at all my lame jokes and you- that's me! To encourage the further development of private information sharing and analysis organizations or ISAOs. I- okay. Another one. ISAOs. So is they... How's that spelled? ISAO, I think. It was... let's see what the acronym is. Analysis organization... Roll it back a little bit. It's funny what he said. So we got the analysis organization... ...to encourage the further development of private information sharing... Private information sharing. P-I-S-A-O-S. But why does he say private information sharing now all of a sudden? What... is that... why is that different from information sharing?

CHAPTER 13 / 48 Discussion

Secret Service Cybercrime Mission, Vladimir Drinkman Case

The Secret Service's mission has evolved from investigating counterfeit currency to leading cybercrime investigations, such as the case of Vladimir Drinkman. The U.S. Coast Guard is also identified as a player in cybersecurity, tasked with protecting maritime transportation systems and undersea fiber optic cables.

secret service· vladimir drinkman· cybercrime· coast guard· maritime security

44:38 I believe it's because of the acronym. An analysis organization or ISAOs. In analysis organization? Is that what he's saying? ISAOs? No, ISAOs would be information sharing analysis organization. Ah, gotcha. Gotcha. Information sharing. So they will participate not just in the private sharing but in the analysis of the information that is shared. Fantastic. Well, that way you can blackmail people easier. So now he's going to get into the crux of a little bit of the issues internally with the infighting and he comes up with a whopper. The Department of Homeland Security has a major law enforcement role in cybersecurity.

45:21 The Secret Service is known for the protection of our nation's leaders. The Secret Service is actually a law enforcement agency. Now this is very interesting because we've looked at the Secret Service and we know that they originally, as far as I understand, they were founded to go after money counterfeiters. Right, exactly. They're from the Department of the Treasury. Department of Treasury. Exactly. Well, they now fall under him apparently, or maybe they always did. And they are a... They didn't always did before 2002, before these guys are formed. Correct. Correct. They started grabbing up different agencies, like the Coast Guard for some reason. Oh, I'm so glad you mentioned that. Originally formed by President Lincoln in 1865 to investigate bank crime. There you go, bank crime. This mission has evolved over the years to include the investigation of cyber crime.

46:09 Oh, that's all we need. We need the guys who are whoring around with hookers and doing coke and falling on their face and letting the president be quasi-attacked. Yeah, these, yeah! Those guys, fantastic. In February of this year, the Secret Service was the lead investigative agency responsible for bringing to justice one of America's most wanted cyber criminal suspects, Vladimir Drinkman. Vladimir Drinkman. This was that the guy who was living in the Netherlands, who by the way, has pleaded not guilty to credit card, stealing credit cards. It was a very, very sketchy case. For Johnson to bring this up as something great the Secret Service did, I think is a canard.

47:00 Homeland Security Investigations is also involved in hunting down cybercrime. And the United States Coast Guard is involved in cyber security. He's just what else have I got? I got the Coast Guard. Sorry, I got the Coast Guard. Bring them into my story. What? Yeah. The Coast Guard. They are cyber security. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Well, you know why? Undersea pipes, baby. Undersea fiber cable. Yeah, we'll just stay here for what you're gonna drop anchor right over this little piece of fiber guard is involved in cybersecurity By working to protect our maritime transportation system a system that contributes 650 billion annually to the nation's gross domestic product and sustains more than 13 million jobs from cyber related threats

CHAPTER 14 / 48 Discussion

Encryption Debate, Law Enforcement Access, and Tech Recruiting

DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson argues that "deeper and deeper encryption" poses a challenge to public safety and law enforcement. He compares the current encryption dilemma to the historical transition from mail to telephone surveillance. The segment dismisses Johnson's plea for tech experts to help find a "solution" as a misguided attempt to weaken security protocols.

encryption· jeh johnson· fbi· silicon valley· privacy rights

47:53 Those are some of the things your government is doing in cyber security. For you, that's right. Now, final clip. And this is, I said it earlier, he uses such a douchebag Silicon Valley term here. Maybe it's also a banking term. I want you to know that when it comes to the government's cyber security responsibility, I'm determined to root out any turf battles between government agencies. Yeah, because he's in charge. He just threw down the gauntlet to the other agencies. He's in charge. Including the military. This is not going to work. DIA, NSA, CIA. I'm encouraging my people within Homeland Security to work in a cooperative and selfless fashion

48:38 with our interagency partners at the FBI, NSA, Defense, Treasury, Justice, and Commerce. Now, finally... He has the mandate from his boss. Remember he set it up. My boss, the president. I have the keys, I have the e-mails. Yeah, now he's all the subtle messaging is in there. Oh, he's doing... I haven't asked. I haven't asked! Tell me that's not a douchebag Silicon Valley. I haven't asked? Yeah. Whoa! I've heard this before. Yeah, no, I haven't. I'm surprised he doesn't go into what's that list when you have a list? When you have a list of things you're supposed to do, uh, like a to-do list? No, it's not a to-do list. They use the term in Silicon Valley. Action items. Ah, action items. I haven't asked for an action item. Yeah, action items. Now, finally,

49:28 I have an ask. What could it be? Any guesses from the gallery, Jean-Claude? Yeah, he hasn't asked. He wants to know why these geniuses can bust this Vladimir Drinkman, but they've done nothing about the Target hack. They've done nothing about the JPMorgan banking hack. They've done nothing about the Anthem health hack. What are they doing for work? They're finding some guy who's just, you know, some lone hacker. Hey, hey, hey, Social Security, get off that hooker. We got to go check some hacks. Yeah, thank you for pointing out those cases. Very good. I have an ask for your indulgence and your understanding on the subject of encryption. The Department of Homeland Security has both the cyber security mission and a law enforcement counterterrorism mission. Now, let me see. When I was first doing some radio back in the 80s,

50:26 These guys are trying to do this. They want to ban encryption. Uh, yeah, kind of. Well, he hasn't asked. The ask is very specific. It's very specific. Uh, hold on. Where are you, Joe? Where are you, Joe? for the American people. We have law enforcement efforts. I'm sorry? Encryption. Encryption hurts our law enforcement efforts. And why are you hiding information if you have something? Why don't we listen to him first and then you can rag on him? Because you're just jumping the gun because you're doing the right thing. Let's hear him say it first. But of course if he uses the iPod, what kind of analogy could he use to explain how important it is to have the keys to all encryption? Law enforcement counter-terrorism mission for the American people. We have our feet in both camps. I therefore believe I have a good perspective. Yeah, with your iPod. On this issue. The current course we are on toward deeper and deeper encryption

51:24 Deeper and deeper encryption? What kind of term is that? It's certainly not deeper, but okay, we'll let you slide on that. Whatever. Are you going to the gym, babe? I'm sorry. I will not, no, we'll never ask again. Fucking kids. In response to the demands of the marketplace is one that presents real challenges for those in law enforcement. and national security. let me be clear. i understand the importance of what encryption brings to privacy. okay, let me be clear. you have no clue what you're talking about. but imagine the problems we would have had if well after the advent of the telephone

52:06 the warrant authority of the government to investigate crime extended only to the US mail. Our inability to access encrypted information poses public safety challenges. In fact, encryption is making it harder for your government to find criminal activity. We in government know that a solution to this dilemma must take full account of the privacy rights and expectations of the American public. Full account. Full account. The state of the technology and the cyber security of American businesses. We need your help to find a solution. Don't be a fucking douche! Oh, sorry, I don't know where that came from. Someone in the audience just got- Someone in the audience got really mad.

52:57 Apparently So there there you have it He also I didn't clip that and in hindsight it should have he said he's also looking for an all-star To lead the team Zoe's on a recruiting mission. He wanted an all-star from Silicon Valley. Let's put it that way all see let's be Frank Frank Let's be Frank I, my name is now Frank. He's not gonna get one. And just on the heels of this, he actually will get some one and they're gonna call him and all, but it'll be a schlub. He should get Phil Zimmerman. You know this guy... This guy, he's clueless. But you can see what is going on. This is a money grab. And also, the law enforcement, especially at the federal level, would love it if there was no encryption and if it was illegal because then they could just tap everything and they could sit back in their desks and eat donuts and not have to really go out and do any field work.

53:51 Then they're going to come up with this, okay, we have another problem. We have criminals whispering to each other. We can't intercept these messages that they're talking to each other because they're whispering. We need to do ear implants. And muzzles. So we can hear all the whispering going on in the country. Yeah. Because that's what all encryption amounts to. It amounts to whispering. Ooh, I like that. is whispering. Beards are push-up bras. This show is just... We are off to a good start. So the money grab has already started and there was a hearing on the Hill, as we call it here in Texas, with... and I... the reason why I stopped and watched her testimony was twofold. One, she's asking for money for an entire new State Department system. She is a assistant

CHAPTER 15 / 48 Discussion

State Department IT Breach, Heather Higginbottom Testimony

Deputy Secretary Heather Higginbottom testified before Congress regarding a breach of State Department IT systems. She requested funding for a separate, independent IT system to defend against constant "attacks," which the segment suggests are often just routine port probing. The lack of transparency regarding the nature of the breach is criticized.

state department· heather higginbottom· it security· data breach· port probing

52:57 Apparently So there there you have it He also I didn't clip that and in hindsight it should have he said he's also looking for an all-star To lead the team Zoe's on a recruiting mission. He wanted an all-star from Silicon Valley. Let's put it that way all see let's be Frank Frank Let's be Frank I, my name is now Frank. He's not gonna get one. And just on the heels of this, he actually will get some one and they're gonna call him and all, but it'll be a schlub. He should get Phil Zimmerman. You know this guy... This guy, he's clueless. But you can see what is going on. This is a money grab. And also, the law enforcement, especially at the federal level, would love it if there was no encryption and if it was illegal because then they could just tap everything and they could sit back in their desks and eat donuts and not have to really go out and do any field work.

53:51 Then they're going to come up with this, okay, we have another problem. We have criminals whispering to each other. We can't intercept these messages that they're talking to each other because they're whispering. We need to do ear implants. And muzzles. So we can hear all the whispering going on in the country. Yeah. Because that's what all encryption amounts to. It amounts to whispering. Ooh, I like that. is whispering. Beards are push-up bras. This show is just... We are off to a good start. So the money grab has already started and there was a hearing on the Hill, as we call it here in Texas, with... and I... the reason why I stopped and watched her testimony was twofold. One, she's asking for money for an entire new State Department system. She is a assistant

54:44 uh, Deputy State Department, uh, Goomba, but her name, the Honorable Heather Higginbottom. It doesn't get much better than that. I know Higginbottom. Heather? I don't know if it's Heather. I know Higginbottom. She is the Honorable Heather Higginbottom. Would you comment on this IT independence issue and also right of first refusal as well as this potential breach? So, They're using it so they're talking like a book guy doing a... Well that's a senator. Higginbottom is about to talk. And she and so this is about they want IT independence, they want their own system, new system, and of course this has to be because of this breach issue. Yes, thank you Senator and I've enjoyed our conversations, look forward to continuing them. Oh, suck his dick more, will ya? I meet as you know with the IG every week. We discuss issues like the ones you just raised.

55:36 We worked through the issue of trying to get an MOU so that there was notification of any entry onto the system. Just recently, the IG has brought to my attention as well as to the Secretary's the request for a separate IT system. We're looking at that very carefully. are thousands of times a day, attacks, attacks, attacks, attacks. You mean like a DDoS or port probing or something that happens? It won't even be DDoS, it'll be port probing. Yeah, but even that is... Some little worms out there bouncing around, saying, can I get in here? Can I... nah, I guess not. Yeah, but she's translating that to the representatives of the American public as an attack. China, North Korea, the Russians. So we have to work... those are difficult issues, but we're looking at that now and examining it. It's also important we understand the cost.

56:35 Yeah, how much more we can get. I'm sorry to interrupt. Have you actually had a breach that you can talk about? I can tell you, Senator, that we have been breached. This has been reported. Any further details of that, we'd be happy to have in a different setting. All right. I would like anyone who has access to the State Department, maybe Matt, although he's not going to do it. Matt Lee. Someone has to... So we have glitch, we've already all, we all bend over, oh it's just a glitch, just go ahead. But now there's a breach. I'd like to know what it was, what was the nature of the breach, what did you have a... What constitutes a breach? Does it mean they got into something or they just broke it? Yeah. Okay. So you understand what I'm saying? Reporting is so irrelevant in today's world.

57:23 No, it's ridiculous. There's no reporting whatsoever. This is all nonsense. And nobody's calling anybody on anything. Oh, well, you have to have a special meeting. Oh, it's confidential. Because if we let anyone know what the breach, they're going to do it again. It's going to give more people ideas. There's lots of reasons to go secret. And why is it when a child is born upside down, why is that called breach? Or when a child is not born upside down, I should say. When a child... Yeah, well this whole thing is upside down. Well, there's your answer. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage to say, in the morning to you, John C., where the C stands for cyber security! Devorah. In the morning to you, Adam Curry. In the morning, all ships and sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water.

58:03 And all the dames and the knights out there. In the morning to everyone in the chat room, they've loved this little bit. They've been, there's some good jokes going on. Oh, they're chatting away. NewagendaStream.com where you can also listen to the live stream every Thursday and Sunday in the morning. And in the morning to our artists, in the morning to our artists, Tice Browers from the Lowlands came back. Tice always makes this beautiful I mean, just really beautiful artwork. It's all original. And 715, of course, the title of 715 was... I don't even remember Sunday Show, apparently. We don't remember much. We're getting old. No, don't say this. It was... Oh, Gay Siri, yes. Gay Siri, great title. And oh, he had the... What? What should that be? He had the NBCIA news truck with the Yeah No Agenda banner, which was a double whammy. Loved it.

CHAPTER 16 / 48 Discussion

No Agenda Art, Tice Browers, and Creative Standards

The hosts credit artist Tice Browers for the episode's artwork, which features an "NBCIA" news truck. They discuss the ground rules for listener-submitted art, emphasizing that it must be original or a legally derivative work rather than a direct copy of existing intellectual property.

tice browers· digital art· no agenda art generator· copyright· creative commons

57:23 No, it's ridiculous. There's no reporting whatsoever. This is all nonsense. And nobody's calling anybody on anything. Oh, well, you have to have a special meeting. Oh, it's confidential. Because if we let anyone know what the breach, they're going to do it again. It's going to give more people ideas. There's lots of reasons to go secret. And why is it when a child is born upside down, why is that called breach? Or when a child is not born upside down, I should say. When a child... Yeah, well this whole thing is upside down. Well, there's your answer. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage to say, in the morning to you, John C., where the C stands for cyber security! Devorah. In the morning to you, Adam Curry. In the morning, all ships and sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water.

58:03 And all the dames and the knights out there. In the morning to everyone in the chat room, they've loved this little bit. They've been, there's some good jokes going on. Oh, they're chatting away. NewagendaStream.com where you can also listen to the live stream every Thursday and Sunday in the morning. And in the morning to our artists, in the morning to our artists, Tice Browers from the Lowlands came back. Tice always makes this beautiful I mean, just really beautiful artwork. It's all original. And 715, of course, the title of 715 was... I don't even remember Sunday Show, apparently. We don't remember much. We're getting old. No, don't say this. It was... Oh, Gay Siri, yes. Gay Siri, great title. And oh, he had the... What? What should that be? He had the NBCIA news truck with the Yeah No Agenda banner, which was a double whammy. Loved it.

58:56 Love the great piece of art, Tice. And of course you can always see all the fabulous art that our artists make at noahartgenerator.com and we thank them and always credit them appropriately for their work. Yes, we do. And we do have to, there's ground rules, certain things, you have to, typeface has to be readable in a smaller size. Also, there has to be, if it's stolen, it has to be derivatives, legally derivative, which is, if you're an artist, you know what that means. But just ripping stuff off, straight up is not good. And we've had people, some people do that. Look guys, this is funny, they're making good,

CHAPTER 17 / 48 Discussion

Executive Producer Ted Eric, Fukushima Comparison

Ted Eric from Vancouver, Washington, is credited as an Executive Producer despite no longer listening to the show to avoid "media poison." He equates the hosts' work in media criticism to the rescue workers at Fukushima, suggesting they absorb toxic information to protect the public. He is knighted as Sir Theodore of the Present Moment.

vancouver· fukushima· media criticism· donation· knighthood

59:36 Album cover now be and the best stuff is creative. It's got layers of its dimensional. It's got funny stuff Yeah, true out. Yeah, let's thank a few people who are the executive producers associate executive producers for show 716 715 is where I'm at well I'm done 716, but I'll call it 715 just to make you I thought I was from the future Ted Eric, I think, is there Eric? I would say Eric. Eric. Eric in Vancouver, Washington. 54321, that's a new one, I like it. That's a nice one, I like it a lot. Credit is Ted Eric from Vancouver, Washington. I'm sorry to say that I'm not listening to No Agenda Show at the moment. What? Even though it is the best podcast in the universe, I stopped paying attention to the news a long time ago and recently stopped listening to podcasts.

1:00:29 Okay, well we need more donors like you. Yeah, just because there was way too much noise. He uses no bandwidth Yeah Too much noise bouncing around my head the no agenda mission is to find the signal in the noise and point out how we're being manipulated by news and pop culture which are basically the same thing by absorbing yourselves in this media poison you to Truly show yourselves as heroes Just like the rescue workers at Fukushima It's a shame when people skip the donation segment because it's the heart of the show. The heart of the show is the group of people who rely on you two as the singular voice of media criticism accountable to no one. Accountable to no one. Yes. Well, we are accountable to the producers. Well, we're accountable to the producers, listeners, and the audience. You remind us that we're not crazy. I trust you two, even when you're wrong.

1:01:23 Hmm. Community is holding society together. This donation should put me at knighthood, so I would like to be knighted as Sir Theodore of the present moment. Nice. And then he has a couple of side notes for us. So he's not really a man overboard. No, this is different. What would this be called? uh... asleep at the wheel he's not at the wheel though he's asleep at the helm contributing to the future of the show is helping the show and the people who know let me see who who and he's not but he's these not listening he says but he was in this area i'm sure you will well thank you very much as the soon-to-be sir theodore of the present moment when i look like they're doing equating us with the fukushima workers because we're going into the do we've going to the death we could be swept away

CHAPTER 18 / 48 Discussion

Tim Nutting, De-douching Request, and Bomb Them Ringtone

Tim Nutting from Everett, Washington, contributes to the show and requests a "de-douching" after being tagged by a friend. He also requests a custom ringtone featuring the "Bomb Them" audio clip. The hosts process his request and acknowledge his support.

everett washington· de-douching· ringtone· donation· audio clips

1:02:16 Yeah. By the bull crap. Yep. And you know this, this, you know, but somehow I think because there's two of us. Holding on for dear life. Yeah, we compensate. Yeah, but so when I slip in the water you pull me out Yeah, I say what are you doing in there? You know I've got time sometimes, but sometimes you're mean you push my head under a little extra I do that, but that's just a joke Onward to Tim nutting in Everett Washington to one three one just the two of us three one four two eight I I tried to send a donation a while ago, so total boner here. I've been listening for a while, but finally have the ability to share some of my own financial gains with the best podcast in the universe. I'd like to request a dedouching after my buddy Dean tagged me several months back.

1:03:07 You should know we do it as a part of the whole segment. Don't I can do it down? Let's do it now. We do it You've been T. Do that's fine. He's deduced into it in the fly like the douchebag call out no we don't but okay Yeah, no oh yeah, that's far out. Whatever. I like it on the in the middle better whatever the case Whatever the case as far as clips all I really need is that bomb them anthem I needed that for a ringtone if Adam feels like adding one or two more That's at his discretion and left to his creative. Thanks for leaving me out of this formula by the way Keep up the excellent work you guys are needed and I will continue contributing as able

CHAPTER 19 / 48 Discussion

David Fugazotto, Vocal Fry, and Travel Karma

David Fugazotto requests "jobs karma" for his wife, Melody, who is starting a social media marketing business, and "travel karma" for his upcoming photography trips to Spain, Kiev, and Belgium. The segment also features a discussion on "vocal fry" in media and a request to play a related audio mashup.

vocal fry· kiev· spain· wedding photography· jobs karma

1:03:53 Bomb them. We need to kill and bomb them. Bomb them. We need to kill and bomb them. Bomb them. We need to bomb them. We need to kill them and bomb them again. I'm shocked. Shocked to find memes colliding in here. You've got karma. David Fugazotto in Parts Unknown, he's philanthropized during the military, 31415, ITM Jen, Some More Value for Value, and another Fletcher Fest donation, this time for my lovely wife, Melody. John, I of course had to agree with you when you said in show 713 that women named Melody are always attractive, as mine is super gorgeous.

1:04:37 And all women named Melody should also have a custom ringtone that yells, Melody! Every time that person who loves them calls my melody not the trademarked one actually mine Has been setting up a social media manager marketing business over the past year so in addition to the Fletcher shout I'd like to have some jobs karma for her and Travel karma for me as the next three weeks will be completely on the road for four different countries shooting a wedding in Spain followed by work trip to Kiev That's interesting. Oh, okay. Communion in Belgium and more work back in the old Deutschland. Finally, if you could, he's in Germany apparently, he's a photographer. Finally, if you could, please play the vocal fry mashup you did a couple of shows ago. The one, that one made me crash and I had been, and it had been played at the podcast awards. I'm not sure which one he's talking about.

1:05:35 Would have noises if it was played. Oh Okay, it would have definitely netted you the comedy podcast award. That's as always your no it wouldn't know it wouldn't know nothing well Nothing not you know I got a couple things for you then in the morning This is sir Jeff Smith saying say no to vocal fry the more you know in the morning Oh girl fry Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. I think we're the only pod show or media outlet period that really is on this vocal fry thing. Yeah, now everyone will start doing it. Man, I don't know.

CHAPTER 20 / 48 Discussion

Trevor Mudge, Bob Mudge, and Novel Character Names

Trevor Mudge's donation of $314.15 (referencing Pi Day) leads to a discussion about using his name for a character in a novel. Because Trevor set conditions for the character's appearance and romantic success, the host decides to use the name "Bob Mudge" instead.

trevor mudge· pi day· fiction writing· character names· donation

1:06:27 Sometimes they jump on, sometimes they don't. Trevor Mudge in Ann Arbor, Michigan, 31415. He sent an email in and I didn't realize it was for today's show. Oh, I may have it. Let me see. I recall something coming through the transom. Yeah, I told him I wanted... On the telex. Came over, yeah, came over on the telex. Trevor Mudge donation, here it is. Oh, yes, because you wanted to use his name. I have screwed up my donation. denotation to support your wonderful podcast. You may get a donation of 31415 on Behind On Episodes. This reflects Pi Day, although... Yeah, right. I sent him back. You know, you could get a call out. You may also get 31415 from a credit card and it goes on.

1:07:13 Uh, okay. He doesn't really have anything to tell us, he just says keep up the great work. No, but you said you wanted to use that name for something? Yeah, a novel. Yeah, and he said you can use my name only if... Yeah, if I get the girl. One, if he's the hero. And I'm a hero. Two, if he gets the girl, and if he is three, portrayed as good-looking, which apparently he's not. So I decided to drop him and use Bob Mudge. Wow. Well, maybe Trevor can make a guest appearance somehow. Morgan Corkill in Coogee, New South Wales, 31415. Now this is one I, again, blank, which means I have to look. It's Morgan Corkill. I don't see anything.

CHAPTER 21 / 48 Discussion

Tom Byrne, Barry Sutton, and Mac Spotlight Tagging Issues

Tom Byrne and Barry Sutton are thanked for their donations. A technical discussion ensues regarding the Mac Spotlight search system, which reportedly prioritizes internal file tags over file names, making it difficult for the hosts to locate specific audio clips like the "Ayn Rand Mac and Cheese" jingle.

wellington· stepaside· ayn rand· mac spotlight· file tagging

1:08:09 No, I just got the notification from PayPal. So if you have something to say, let us know or if you have the call out that you want, obviously wants a Fletcher call out, it probably came in under some email that doesn't say Cork Hill. Tom Byrne in Wellington, New Zealand, he's an associate executive producer, 244.32. Hi, John and Ann, I'm sorry for being a dick. Thanks for teaching me not to take myself too seriously. Okay, I'm gonna go with some karma for that. Anyone who does that deserves karma. You've got karma. And there we have Barry Sutton, who also came in with no extra note. Make sure. No? Alright, Barry Sutton in Steep Step Aside. Step Asi- you're kidding me.

1:09:04 There is a town in Dublin, Ireland called Stepaside. I guess. I have a donation note from Barry. It must be where the British live. Donation note from Barry. Adam and John hit my wife in the mouth a couple of months ago. I'm now divorced. No She's become increasingly insistent that I am a douchebag for not donating ever. Oh, yes, please deduce me absolutely You've been D douched it was not so much her whining but But your last newsletter from the 18th that hit home and made me realize I just start supporting TV PITU Thanks for all you do and he says can I get a you slaves can get used to mac and cheese and a jobs job Jay says it's Hillary, but it's not Hillary it is Fine stinkle no no the job job job. Oh Pelosi. I'm sorry you're right So we need the mac and cheese

1:10:04 What is the regular mac and cheese one? That's funny. I have the mac and cheese jingle, but I know what he wants. He wants the one that... You can get slaves who need mac and cheese. Yeah. You lost it in the background. Well, I don't know... You lost it? Well, this is what's... So I have this new system which seems to be working just fine. Except when needed. Well, I believe that the Mac spotlight system gives precedence to tags within the file and not the file name. Oh, that's not right. It's in fact, it's quite wrong.

1:10:44 And it means you got to do a better job of tagging so you got to go back and take those 10,000 clips we have and tag them appropriately by listening to each individual one over again. Oh that would really suck. I think so. Get an intern. That's what I need. An intern who can text me. That'll be fun. Mac and Cheese by Ayn Rand. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. I realized that was the wrong one, but now I have to find out where it went. You'll find it. Of course I will. That's a good one anyway. I like that one. Sir James Howard in Indianapolis, Indiana 22222 free range children's segment from the last show totally blew my mind.

CHAPTER 22 / 48 Discussion

Philip Smith, Dame Sarah, and International Producer Credits

Producers from Norway, the Netherlands, and Lake County are acknowledged for their contributions. Philip Smith from Oslo donates to have his wife, Sarah, named a Dame. The hosts emphasize that these executive producer credits are legitimate and can be used on professional resumes.

oslo· norway· netherlands· lake county· value-for-value

1:11:32 Those CPS jerks really have their heads up their asses. They don't see that the children were kidnapped by the police! What utter a-holes. Hey, got a little of that, got that out of it. Yeah. Philip Smith in Oslo, Norway, $200. He sent a note in, I did have find. Please accept my donation to the BP ITU. Sadly, the crumbling Norwegian krona limits my donation capacity as a mere $200 cost me over 1600 NOKs. The latest Newsletter spurred me into action as the thought of losing you guys from my commute is too awful to consider use guys with donation towards my amazing wife becoming a dame and Being EP for the next show. She's already has a name made for dame hood as she is Danish But with a French surname, so here's my donation on behalf of Sarah Dornan Ville de la cour

1:12:30 Don't unveil the liquor Dame don't reveal the liquor. They sent karma for my darling wife as she deserves all the support in the world She is married to me love the show. Ah, so nice. Here we go. Then or future Dame. You've got karma This is black knight, sir. Philip Smith Lord of the Northern Lands black baronet of Oslo to be precise. Yes now we have Dowie and Della from Martin's Dick. Dowie and Della from Martin's Dike. Yeah, Martin's Dike. Martin's Dike. Not Martin's Dick, Dike. Which means it was the dike there. $200. Hang in there. Too bad most people in the Netherlands worry more about their next vacation than what they hear on TV or radio. Keep me informed. Will do so, sir.

1:13:22 And then finally, Sir Mike Schumacher of Baronet of Lake County, $200. He actually gave us a donation at the Twit 10th anniversary. Oh nice! Direct donation with no notice. You guys do great work and keep it up. Did Leo see that? No, of course not. That would have been funny. Hey man, someone just gave me money right here, Leo. We get money from our producers who are the people you... Well, anyway, I'm not going to say anymore. We already talked about too much about it. Anyway, that's a group of producers and executive producers for show 715. I want to thank them all and remind people that we do have a show coming up on Sunday, a short week. It looks like their donations have finally fallen off from the couple newsletters ago. So go to Dvorak.org

1:14:08 org.org.org slash N-A-N. org.org.org slash N-A-N. It's gonna be a shoe and it's gonna be easy. Easy peasy pudding and pie. Thank you all so much. These are real credits, which means if you're an associate executive producer or an executive producer, that can be put anywhere on a piece of paper where credits will be expected or are accepted. And of course we always need everybody to go out there and do the fine work of propagating the formula. The formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, Slade! Shut up, Slade. Since we're still at the kind of beginning of the show, John, I know you're chomping at the bit to do some stuff. I need to do something very important. You know I am certainly no one who is- who shies away. I'm not one to shy away from a good theory that could be considered conspiratorial in nature.

CHAPTER 23 / 48 Discussion

Walmart Store Closings, Jade Helm 15, and Remodeling Theory

The widespread closure of Walmart stores is addressed, debunking conspiracy theories linking them to "Jade Helm 15" military exercises or underground FEMA tunnels. Information from a high-level Walmart IT source suggests the closures are actually due to a massive infrastructure remodel involving fiber optic "plumbing" and a strategy to reset the workforce under a new CEO.

walmart· jade helm 15· dhs· plumbing· fiber optics· store remodel

1:15:15 I uphold many and sometimes they turn out to be right. And people therefore call me the crackpot. Now looking across the board, these Walmart closings in the alternative news sector have been hailed as Jade Helm 15. Well, the JD Helm 15 is the event that is supposed to occur and may involve Walmart or Walmart's going to be part of this scheme. This is the biggest load of crap. By the way, we have a number, I don't have any of these letters in front of me. I'm going to read one right now. We have a lot of people that apparently are in managerial positions or work. I'll do you one better.

1:15:56 at Walmart to give us the inside scoop on this thing. And by the way, it falls right into my thesis, so hit it. Not entirely. But it is this the the Walmart closings are there's no there's seriously unfortunately I would love nothing more than tunnels underneath and you know FEMA distribution centers by the way that is true Walmart does have a deal with DHS that in an emergency that they become a food and and medical distribution center that's got lots of food there of course that's true you know I saw videos Oh, someone snuck in and it's crazy! You won't believe what you'll see on the inside of the closed Walmart! Empty shelves! So, you know, the one in Texas still has the pharmacy open. So you can go around the back. I kid you not. You go around the back and you can go into a back door. Oh, we snuck in the back door and we took some secret cell phone footage and there's empty shelves! What did they expect? A bunch of rotting food left there?

1:17:01 We have a dude named Ben very high in the Walmart IT organization who I've been in contact with for the past number of days. He has sent me information that could incriminate him even if I... let's put it this way. He is identifiable with information that he gave me, so I will give you the information that... and he showed me I feel valid proof. You just have to take my word for it. First of all, Walmart is kind of in trouble. And I think that we identified this on the previous show, that they were already asked to...Wall Street was saying, hey, they should probably close 100 stores, a number of things need to be done. But more importantly, they have a new CEO, the old CEO left to go to

1:17:51 What's the big hedge fund, the Bush thing there in DC? There's a lot of them. I don't know. I don't know. Yes, you do. Well, okay, but I don't remember. That's true. So there's a new CEO and the organization is in shambles and things are not happening the way they should. Turns out the plumbing they were talking about was fiber and network plumbing. Now, they may be doing some actual plumbing, but these stores are... I've seen evidence in the form of what I believe to be authentic communications. These stores are undergoing a remodel. Historically, it's about six months for the remodel and plumbing

1:18:39 probably is more with the fiber. So they closed the stores and the IT guys are freaking out because they haven't even pulled the fiber yet between the disparate locations or wherever the fiber has to come from. So what we'll see, and this is his, he says, okay, here's what's going to happen next. You'll see a store planner will be a side on site. They're going to start working on the remodel because they actually started doing a very good job of these remodels. And the why they do this surprise move is partially because the organization is not running as smoothly as it should be. But also it's a good way to get rid of the dead weight because there'll be hiring back people in six months and the same people who were there

1:19:22 Previously, we'll be able to be rehired maybe at the new $15 rate, but we don't know. But it certainly will enable them to not hire people they didn't want back. So as much as I would love to be all on board with the crazy shells being a sign of Jade Helm 15 underground tunnels to the FEMA camps, we're all going to die. It's just a PR botch from Walmart. And they're just remodeling in six months, these will be open again. Take that, Corbett. Well, I don't know why you'd mention him. Because he's all in on this crap. Well, so is your buddy and there were... Seedman. Seedman, yeah, they're all... Seed guy. Yeah, but so... A lot of people are all in on it. I was watching, looking around, going... And they're doing it from, like, from... YouTube videos showing empty shelves. It's real! It's real! It's real! But yeah, if you're doing a remodel, that would make sense that you'd have empty shelves, I'd say.

1:20:23 Yes. So sometimes the best podcast in the universe just has to give you what truly seems to be Occam's razor initially. But more importantly, I think what's interesting is that Walmart botched this and maybe they love the whole alternative theory so they can get their ducks in a row while everyone else is running around... Distraction of the week for them. Yes, exactly. Running around talking about Jade Helm. They must love that. I'm sure some do and some don't. Well, I don't know. I would think that the PR people... It's a big event that's going to take place. Big, big. It's going to be big. We're all going to be swept. We're going to be all imprisoned. Unfortunately... Tunnels are everywhere. The distraction of the week on No Wood's Agenda. Sorry. All right. Well, I'm glad you did that.

CHAPTER 24 / 48 Discussion

EU Gazprom Antitrust Charges, Yamal Pipeline Geopolitics

The European Union has accused Russia's Gazprom of price gouging and monopoly practices in Eastern Europe. The analysis suggests this is a geopolitical move to block Russian gas transit through the Yamal pipeline in Poland and Belarus. The segment highlights the EU's history of using antitrust commissions to target foreign energy and tech interests.

gazprom· european union· yamal pipeline· vladimir putin· poland· energy politics

1:21:30 Here we go, let's get a couple miscellaneous stories out of the way. How about the Gazprom gouging story? Yes, this is great. I'm so happy. I actually have a longer clip direct from the horse's mouth. We'll listen to your setup here. The European Union accused Russia's state-owned energy giant today of price gouging and monopoly practices. It was the latest sign of rising tensions between the EU and Moscow. The EU's competition commissioner charged Gazprom is using its dominant position to strong-arm countries in Eastern and Central Europe.

1:22:07 Gazprom has been able to charge higher prices in some countries without fearing that gas would flow in from other countries, from resellers or where the prices were lower. What we have seen then in our data is that Gazprom has been charging what we think of as unfairly high prices. Gascon dismissed the accusations as unfounded. I love... So that was Democracy Now!, a very well-funded news organization. No, no, no, that's PBS. PBS News Hour, a very well-funded news group who left out the most important part of the story, which is what this is really about. Let me... Well, PBS would be inclined to do that.

1:22:58 Let's listen to the quick repeat of what you just heard. It's Margrit Verstager. She is the European Union's Commissioner for Competition. And this is about one of my favorite topics. Second decision today was the adoption of a statement of objection against some Gazprom activities. And what we say in the statement of objection is that our preliminary view alleges that Gazprom is abusing this dominant position. Gazprom has been able to charge higher prices in some countries without fearing that gas would flow in from other countries.

1:23:42 from resellers or where the prices were lower. Now, before I continue, because now we're getting into the piece that the PBS NewsHour did not play for you, which is the real news, please go get a map and just bring up Ukraine and zoom out two clicks. What we have seen then in our data is that Gazprom has been charging what we think of as unfairly high prices in five different countries. They be Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and Bulgaria. Gazprom has used its dominance in supply of gas to obtain unrelated commitments from customers concerning the gas infrastructure. In particular, evidence of this conduct is found in Poland concerning the Yamal pipeline and in Bulgaria concerning the South Stream.

1:24:42 Please go look at the Yamal pipeline. You can spell it with a Y, you can spell it with a J. This is the alternative route. So we have three routes. We have one, the Nord Stream goes to Germany, which is everyone's, you know, Germany can't put economic sanctions on itself. So no, we have the Ukrainian pipelines and then the Yamal pipeline, which goes through Belarus and through Poland. They want to cock block Russia everywhere. So now they're pulling out the, oh they're anti-competitive because they use their power to get countries to participate in, which I might add, very profitable infrastructure, gas transit infrastructure. So much so that Putin has now said, if Greece signs onto the Turkish pipeline,

1:25:35 I will let them borrow any amount of money they need against their transit fees, which are hundreds and hundreds of millions of euros annually. This shows you how pathetic the anti-competitive commission is in the EU. This is why they... and by the way, they don't just do it to the Russians, they do it to Americans. Oh yeah, no, they're always gouging us. And the pipeline literally goes through Belarus to Poland. Oh, unfair competition. So now, what is Poland going to do? Poland should say, hey, F you. We're making some good money here with these transit fees. Belarus, same deal. And they get to take some of the gas. So I guess it was too tiring to go in and create a war in Belarus.

1:26:24 you know, to have another regime change. That's what this is about. And I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you, that the NewsHour didn't even mention that. Well, they did mention it. In their defense, they mentioned everything until the very end of it when they started talking about the pipeline. That's what it's about. Yeah. Well, that's what it's always about. Hello? You're the one that came up with the original thesis? Yes. I'm like a shocker. It's a shocker when... It's about the pipelines. It's a shocker when no one in the real news says it. Yeah, nobody calls these guys out. Well, they do on RT. Yeah, yeah. Who cares? That's true. Whatever they do on RT, nobody listens. There was another thwarted attack, a terrorist attack, ISIS, ISIL, IS group attack in Paris.

CHAPTER 25 / 48 Discussion

Paris Terror Arrest, Church Attack Plot

A 24-year-old computer science student from Algeria was arrested in Paris after police discovered an arsenal of weapons. Authorities claim he was planning an imminent attack on churches and was already on a terrorist watch list due to his desire to travel to Syria.

paris· algeria· isis· church attack· terrorism watch list

1:27:15 And ABC News set the stage with the language. This was a close call, a very close call. No it wasn't. No one was on the street with a bomb or a gun, but okay, close call. Police on Sunday in Paris arresting a 24 year old computer science student from Algeria. He was in possession of an arsenal, they say, of heavy weapons and was planning to carry out an imminent attack on churches. He was already on a terrorist watch list because he wanted to go to Syria, which is, as you know, ground zero for violent jihad. Right now, officials are saying they have

1:27:51 It's a virus, John. It's a virus. It's everywhere. Dramatization, I would say. It's everywhere, this virus. I got it. I picked up on an interesting kind of a sub thesis. I ran into that as a number of my clips have the secondary meanings. There is a story about a hero cop. Ah, thank goodness. This hero cop. And here we go. This is the story of the hero because he did not. Some guy's a murderer coming at him and the hero cop.

1:28:45 And he was called a hero for not shooting the guy because every other news story currently is about some cop. And by the way, these shootings have been going on for years, but they're all over the news now. And I think I know the reason why, based on a letter that we got and also this story. This story triggered it. An officer in Ohio is being praised for restraint tonight in a life-or-death situation. Last Thursday, in New Richmond, Officer Jesse Kidder held his fire as a suspect charged at him. Have a look at what his body camera showed. No man, I'm not gonna do it! Shoot me! Shoot me! Shoot me!

CHAPTER 26 / 48 Discussion

Hero Cop Narrative, Taser Corporation, and Body Camera PR

A story about an Ohio police officer who showed restraint by not shooting a suspect is identified as part of a public relations campaign for body cameras. The segment argues that Taser International is aggressively pushing expensive cloud-based camera systems to law enforcement. The hosts express skepticism that body cameras provide a full or objective account of police interactions.

body cameras· taser international· ferguson· police restraint· gopro

1:27:51 It's a virus, John. It's a virus. It's everywhere. Dramatization, I would say. It's everywhere, this virus. I got it. I picked up on an interesting kind of a sub thesis. I ran into that as a number of my clips have the secondary meanings. There is a story about a hero cop. Ah, thank goodness. This hero cop. And here we go. This is the story of the hero because he did not. Some guy's a murderer coming at him and the hero cop.

1:28:45 And he was called a hero for not shooting the guy because every other news story currently is about some cop. And by the way, these shootings have been going on for years, but they're all over the news now. And I think I know the reason why, based on a letter that we got and also this story. This story triggered it. An officer in Ohio is being praised for restraint tonight in a life-or-death situation. Last Thursday, in New Richmond, Officer Jesse Kidder held his fire as a suspect charged at him. Have a look at what his body camera showed. No man, I'm not gonna do it! Shoot me! Shoot me! Shoot me!

1:29:26 Kidder backpedaled until backup could arrive. The suspect wanted in connection with two murders was apprehended. No one hurt. All right. And so good news, it happens. The good news is this whole thing, all these good, it started, somebody got the wise idea right after Ferguson. And that's why we every news day, somebody got shot by the cops. And the backstory is, and this is confirmed by this particular story, we need body cams on all the cops. This is the body cam companies pushing this stuff. No, it's only one company. It's one company. It's the Taser company. Okay, the one company's got a big public relations operation going. And this story, oh, he had a body cam and we can watch now. Somebody sent us a note with great detail about these two

1:30:16 the current crop of these cameras. They're too expensive. Did you have a note there? Do you have the note in front of you? No, I don't. They're too... This was from Dave. I should have talked about this two weeks ago. They're too expensive. They use the cloud. The company is overcharging for the entire operation. I am predicting that GoPro is going to use just a bolster their stock, because if they could set up a system, and because they got the brand name, and they've got some new competition that's gonna hurt them big time in their public company, GoPro's gonna come up with some camera operation, and they'll have the same thing where you have a wifi connection, it talks to the car, the car talks to the cloud, the stuff is saved somehow. And there's also software you can get for just your own phone to do this, take a movie, it goes to the cloud,

1:31:05 instantly. Right now, these stories are promoting, everything is about promoting body cameras. And this story confirmed it. This was because the guy had a body camera. And as you know, I'm not a big fan of it. I don't know that. We had a very long discussion about it when it first came up in Ferguson. And I said, I'm not a big fan of the body cameras. I'm not. Reiterate. I believe it will hamper law enforcement. Of course, there's bad cops, there's good cops. I like having cops around. I like the fact that I'm armed too. So I'm okay. You can have a body cam all you want, but I believe it will hamper law enforcement. I was thinking last night as I was watching some of this too, you recall the show Cops.

1:31:59 This is just funny to think about it. What it's all this is cops, it's raw. And this was early 90s, I think, wasn't it? The cop show? I think it may still be on. Yeah. And everything was up and the cops were great. And they were, you know, and they were kind. They took care of everybody. Yeah. Bad boys, bad boys. Exactly. So that was clearly that must have all been fake. There are no good cops because we don't see that anymore. I think the body cams will hamper police work. And because you have to think so, you know, you have to, oh my God, I'm raising my weapon or whatever, whatever decision is being made. I don't know if it's necessarily good. I'm just not a big fan of the whole idea. I don't like it. I think the car cameras are, I like that. And although I don't even know if there's been many convictions based upon car camera video, but in general, in general, first person video,

1:32:55 does not necessarily give you the facts of what is taking place. Any video does not necessarily give you the full experience of being somewhere when something takes place. I'm just not a big fan of it. I like cops. I don't like cops that kill people, but I'm not against cops. I'm not all cops are shit. So... Well, that's obvious, but I think there's a concerted effort going on at the public relations campaign to emphasize these shootings and to DM... Now, here's a cop that had the body cam according to this story. Now he's a hero. And that was too much for me. That's why I did this. I could have brought this up earlier. But you're right. And it's the Taser Corporation and they are incredibly expensive, their product. And I remember us looking at the Taser Corporation and calling this as, you know,

1:33:44 you know, the company that would win and there they are because they already have the tasers. I believe they make the tasers too. Well, that would make logical sense. Which, you know what, uh, what did someone told me what the acronym taser stood for? I think it was Tom, uh, Tom a swift electronic rifle, like from the Tom Swift books. I think. Tom A Swift. I don't know. He had a middle initial. Well, he does in my acronym. So a good call. I agree. And that was on what news outfit got duped for this? CBS. National. CBS Evening News. Makes nothing but sense. Played right into it. Yeah. Morons. How many years has President Obama been married to Michelle Obama? I don't know. Do you think that's in the wiki somewhere? I would think it's on the website somewhere. Have you ever seen wedding pictures? What are you getting at?

CHAPTER 27 / 48 Discussion

Barack and Michelle Obama Marriage Duration Confusion

The hosts express confusion over how long Barack and Michelle Obama have been married, noting a discrepancy in public statements. They jokingly attribute the inability to calculate the duration to "Common Core" education.

barack obama· michelle obama· marriage· common core

1:34:48 What's your what's your question? How long have you been Barack Obama? Have I we've been married? 20-something years Wait somebody you guys know the date. When was it? It's been it's been over a decade. It's been a while 20 years is not a decade Mm-hmm. I thought that was rather strange. Yeah, I did too I'm sorry. I forgot how long I've been married to my husband. I Believe me over a decade 20 years. I don't know it's not wrong somebody here must know it's not anybody know Hey kids, then anybody is must be common core. That's

CHAPTER 28 / 48 Discussion

Ohio Reading Test Scores, John Kasich Hit Piece

A PBS NewsHour report on low reading proficiency standards in Ohio is interpreted as a political hit piece against Governor John Kasich. The report claims Ohio promotes third graders even if they lag behind 85% of their peers. The hosts argue the story is designed to make the Republican presidential hopeful look like a "scammer."

ohio· john kasich· reading proficiency· common core· pbs news hour

1:35:34 Well, here's another little subtle message. Like the other one, this kind of like, well, it looks like the story looks like one thing, but then it's about something else. And this is more of a stretch than the one about the body cams. But this is this is this clip. Students in Ohio are stupid. Test prove they were ready. We saw a fourth grade teacher, Maria Cleveland. How many of your kids are actually reading at a fourth grade level? Probably 50%. The reality is that kids are all over the place. They just aren't ready for some of the things. I mean, you know, kids don't know how to sound out words. They're working on some phonics skills that they never received. It's an eye opener. And yet, all of them passed Ohio's reading test. And that could be the bigger problem. They get to take it multiple times, the same test.

1:36:24 They get to take it in the fall. If they don't pass it, they take it again in the spring. If they don't pass it, they take it again in the summer. And now they've thrown in a new test. And how high was the bar? Turns out the score for promotion, advancing to fourth grade, was set below the mark that defines a proficient reader. They're different scores and here's why. This is a very, very hard policy. Parents don't want their kids retained. Schools don't want to retain them. It's expensive to retain them. $10,000 a year. If we had set those at the exact same level, at that proficient level, which is of course where we want kids to be, this policy would have been dead within a year. I don't think that that little window of promotable versus proficient

1:37:06 is really anything to discuss because it's too close. It's like three questions. To Hissett, the lower pass score is a good thing because it gives students a cushion, which makes sense she says when when the test is high stakes. It's an isolated day. Who knows what happened the night before? Who knows if they had sleep? Who knows if they even ate dinner? So yes, if they've got the basic skills and they can at least get it close, it's that little shadow of a doubt, that's fine with me. But a big shadow of doubt still hangs over Ohio's 96% pass rate. A close look at test documents reveals more on just how low the bar was set.

1:37:47 Ohio will promote third graders even if they lag behind 85% of their peers nationwide. Aren't you just setting those kids up for failure? No, I think they're getting help because we have focused this attention on reading and the teachers are aware. That to me, now this is just my opinion, that to me would be a state issue wanting to make it look like you know the kids are doing better. Well, you know, if they want to take that attitude, fine. But what we're trying to do here is so terribly important. It's important that we do it right and not try to do it all at once. All right. So, of course, if you were in Georgia, you'd be in jail for some of this. But you also pointed out, I think it was a month or two ago, about how these common core testing and all the rest of it has been actually the bar is lower.

1:38:42 than it was before for the purposes of letting everybody pass. But this to me, this piece, which is on the NewsHour, I look at it as a hit piece aimed directly at Governor John Kasich, who is a Republican hopeful and who has high qualification skills to get the presidency. And this is the preliminary strike. Let's get this guy out of the way right away. Make him look like he's the governor. They're trying to scam the system. He's a scammer. He's a crook. That's the way I kind of over-interpreted what was really going on here, because this story was a mountain out of a molehill story that they just kept going. They kept making...there was a lot of implications, like, oh, yeah, you're gonna let somebody...85% of the rest of the country is smarter than you. And it's like, it's implying that Ohioans are dumb. And they run...and they got a dumb governor.

CHAPTER 29 / 48 Discussion

Pearson Education Glitches, LAUSD iPad Contract Cancellation

The Los Angeles Unified School District (LAUSD) has cancelled a $1.3 billion contract with Apple and Pearson after the digital curriculum failed to function properly. Meanwhile, in Texas, "glitches" hampered online standardized testing. The segment also mocks the complexity of ICD-10 medical coding, specifically codes for "locking knees."

pearson· apple· lausd· ipad· common core· icd-10

1:39:39 Well, along the lines of Common Core and specifically Pearson, who are the publishers of all things Common Core, they also do the STAR, S-T-A-R, which is the State of Texas Assessment of Academic Readiness testing. That took place earlier this week. And, well, they couldn't do it because there was a glitch. A glitch. Not a glitch! Yeah, so here's the reporting from the Statesman. This is, I would say, a very important newspaper in the state of Texas. Several school districts in Central Texas reported problems with online star testing.

1:40:16 Let's see, they could not log in for about 35 minutes and then they will be answering a question and then it would pop out that have to log in again, losing their answer. Software glitch. Good reporting everybody. How about finding... They don't even mention Pearson in this, which is baffling. However, in California, California, the Los Angeles School District has cancelled the iPad Pearson curriculum. Good. 1.3 billion dollar education initiative that would have seen all students in the Los Angeles school district outfitted with an iPad. Hello, Tim Cook! The Los Angeles Unified School District has notified Apple it will no longer be using or paying for the Pearson education curriculum that was meant to accompany the iPads in a letter sent to Apple, shared in part by the Los Angeles Times. LAUSD asked for a refund, said it has no plans to accept or compensate Apple for new deliveries.

1:41:16 And as you are aware, we are extremely dissatisfied with the work of Pearson. While Apple and Pearson promise a state-of-the-art technological solution they have yet to deliver, despite demands to fix the problem, the vast majority of our students are still unable to even access the Pearson curriculum on the iPads. Oh, this is going to be fun to watch, at least at the corporate level between Pearson and Apple. Oops, I'm sorry. What? You have to eat the iPads. Oh, yeah. One point scam that bothers me the most is the educational scam that Common Core represents and people like the Gates Foundation all these other guys. I don't know why it takes so long to figure out that whatever Bill Gates is ever gonna do it's gonna involve selling those machines. But it's also gonna be great. It's gonna be genius and it's always gonna be spot on.

1:42:13 Actually, there was something else funny that happened yesterday, not really related to Common Core, but other crazy centralized bullcrap. I got a message from Nurse Tracy and she said, we just had a patient walk in here who was complaining of knees locking while urinating, I think. She knows, I think, the whole ICD-10 codes are funny. And so, you know, whatever was going on, they were all joking, oh, there's probably an ICD-10 code for it. Would you know it? ICD-10, code M23.9 or 0, locking knees is unbelievable. Even the people diagnosing and working with the patients don't even know how much, what kind of codes there are. Locked knee, knee locking, derangement of meniscus of knee, internal derangement of knees, it has a code. But is it while peeing?

CHAPTER 30 / 48 Discussion

Radioactive Drone Found on Japanese Prime Minister's Roof

A drone carrying a small amount of radioactive cesium was discovered on the roof of the Japanese Prime Minister's office in Tokyo. While the incident led to increased security around government buildings, the hosts suggest the event might be used as a pretext to sell more American drone defense technology to Japan.

tokyo· shinzo abe· drone· cesium· radioactive material

1:43:12 Well, I... unfortunately not. Oh, that's too bad. That's what I said. It's good, but it's not quite there. And then the news that I was surprised that this is not major, major news. It would affect everything, I believe, with the aviation industry. Authorities in Tokyo are piecing together the details about a drone found on the roof of the Prime Minister's office. Yeah. This is, hey, this story got a lot of legs. Oh, I didn't see it anywhere. I heard it in a couple of places. Well, I got it from somewhere obviously, but it wasn't like a huge deal. I think the payload is what's interesting. The drone carried a slight amount of radioactive material. They're trying to figure out who flew it and when. Police are studying footage from surveillance cameras located near the office. They say staff discovered the drone Wednesday on the roof. They had gone there during a training session for new employees.

1:44:07 Investigators say the last time anyone had been up there was a month ago and there was no drone at that time. Exclusive photos obtained by NHK show the device was carrying a container filled with liquid and marked with a radioactive symbol. Investigators found traces of cesium inside. Police have stepped up surveillance around the Prime Minister's office and the Diet building. They're keeping a lookout for any suspicious activity and they're asking the managers of nearby buildings to lock entrances to rooftops. It's like a dumb story. There's probably some delivery.

CHAPTER 31 / 48 Discussion

South Korea OPCON Delay, Japanese Missile Launch

The handover of operational control (OPCON) for South Korean security has been delayed until 2020, keeping military authority in Washington's hands. Additionally, Japan's recent missile launch is discussed, with the hosts noting the high quality and "ICBM-like" appearance of the technology.

south korea· opcon· washington· japan· icbm· missile technology

1:44:43 I mean, if you're gonna have a little bottle of cesium in a liquid, I don't know how you'd do that. Well, the only thing I can think is that this is obviously for more security weaponry that needs to be purchased of the drone variety from us for Japan. That's what I was thinking immediately. Now that they... It's not big enough sale that kind of... It's Mickey Mouse. It has to be some... Also, I have to correct myself. I have to correct myself. The handover of OPCON, the operational security weaponry for South Korea, I didn't realize this. It was supposed to be handed over at the beginning of the year, so South Korea would run it themselves. It has been delayed until 2020. So

1:45:34 Everyone, you're all still in good hands. You don't have to go over there and blow some South Korean to sell your nuke. You can just do it with the same old people you always do in Washington. Well, I think they're going to...the real actions are still going to take place in the Middle East. They're just going to all blow each other up. Oh, sure. Sure. It's just...it's just a rectification. It'll set back a lot of problems. I mean, the Japanese just launched a fabulous looking missile. Into the I don't know where it was really. Oh, it's beautiful. It's not often. I'm I'm

1:46:11 enthralled by a missile. Oh, I think it was dynamite looking. And really, I'm thinking, well, you know, it's an ICBM quality thing. You know, they're going to go hit the moon or something. And but it's like, you know, they put a bomb on there, put a warhead on that thing and they can make up for World War Two and drop our West Coast cities. I want to take a look at this thing. What was so beautiful about it? It's just gorgeous looking very well, just symmetrical, had nice looking engines. It's just pretty. Funny anyway, I've never been turned on by a missile That's what you say metrical it was beautiful anyway They're gonna have to have some sort of a con how about the shaft was the shaft all and wow different hard and You have to turn everything dirty

CHAPTER 32 / 48 Discussion

Oil Price Speculation, CNBC Buy Signals, Yemen Conflict

CNBC analysts are predicting oil prices will rise to $60 per barrel due to U.S. warships off the coast of Yemen and ISIS activity in Iraq. The hosts advise that a "buy" signal from CNBC is typically a contrarian indicator to sell, arguing that the global economy would benefit more from $30 oil.

cnbc· crude oil· yemen· isis· aircraft carrier

1:47:02 It's my job. Very offensive. Anyway, so you have some sorry, offended you. They're going to have to let the Iranians will get them the bomb and then the Saudis and they're just gonna blow each other up. This may be the rat you're talking about crackpot. This may be the rationale for moving toward natural resources and homegrown oil and the rest because all that oil in the Middle East if they have an exchange of nukes and you blow up one thing or another it's going to be contaminated and not useful. It won't be usable. Oh, that's a good point. There was an interesting report on CNBC about the oil, specifically oil prices, which I thought was, well, whenever CNBC says buy, you know you better be selling. But I did want to play this quickie. But as far as crude oil goes, Jackie, I'm a buyer right here. You have U.S. production flatlining. You have ISIS battling for control of oil fields in Iraq. You have U.S. warships off the coast of Yemen. I think we see $60 before we see $50 again. Oh, so that may be helpful.

1:48:03 What do you think? I don't like that. I think the oil should be 30 bucks and let the economy just go nuts. Right, but is it conceivable that creating a little bit of tension, sends the prices up and that's good for everybody? It has done that in the past, but this is all... the problem is it's pre-accounted for because ISIS is not a new thing. It's going in there... I mean, they've been there... Well, the aircraft carrier near Yemen is... The aircraft carrier near Yemen is new, so that would push the price up a little bit, but it's... I don't think so. I don't think oil is going to be at 60 anytime soon. Again, whenever CNBC says buy, you better be selling. Yeah, but CNBC, their theory is to say buy about everything. It's like the bullish network.

1:48:50 It could be a massive depression, everything collapsing, bye, bye, bye. Now's the time to buy because it's low. Meanwhile, we haven't really focused on this war on cash, I think for the past two weeks, we just haven't gotten to the... We haven't talked about it for months. Yeah, we haven't talked about it. Louisiana passed House Bill 195, banning the use of all... This is very similar to what we saw in European countries, banning the use of all cash in all transactions involving secondhand goods. State Representative Rick Hardy, co-author of the bill, claims the bill targets criminals who traffic in stolen goods. It's a mechanism to be used so the police department has something to go on, they have a lead. The bill prohibits cash transactions by second-hand dealers. Defined to include... What? Yes, defined to include garage sales, flea markets, resellers of specialty items, even non-profit resellers like Goodwill. Curiously, pawnbrokers are exempt from the ban, of course.

CHAPTER 33 / 48 Discussion

Louisiana Cash Ban, War on Cash, Secondhand Dealer Regulations

Louisiana House Bill 195 has reportedly passed, banning cash transactions for secondhand goods at flea markets, garage sales, and thrift stores like Goodwill. The law requires dealers to collect detailed personal information from sellers, including driver's license and plate numbers. This is framed as part of a broader "war on cash" that includes banks like Chase prohibiting cash storage in safety deposit boxes.

louisiana· house bill 195· war on cash· chase bank· secondhand goods

1:48:03 What do you think? I don't like that. I think the oil should be 30 bucks and let the economy just go nuts. Right, but is it conceivable that creating a little bit of tension, sends the prices up and that's good for everybody? It has done that in the past, but this is all... the problem is it's pre-accounted for because ISIS is not a new thing. It's going in there... I mean, they've been there... Well, the aircraft carrier near Yemen is... The aircraft carrier near Yemen is new, so that would push the price up a little bit, but it's... I don't think so. I don't think oil is going to be at 60 anytime soon. Again, whenever CNBC says buy, you better be selling. Yeah, but CNBC, their theory is to say buy about everything. It's like the bullish network.

1:48:50 It could be a massive depression, everything collapsing, bye, bye, bye. Now's the time to buy because it's low. Meanwhile, we haven't really focused on this war on cash, I think for the past two weeks, we just haven't gotten to the... We haven't talked about it for months. Yeah, we haven't talked about it. Louisiana passed House Bill 195, banning the use of all... This is very similar to what we saw in European countries, banning the use of all cash in all transactions involving secondhand goods. State Representative Rick Hardy, co-author of the bill, claims the bill targets criminals who traffic in stolen goods. It's a mechanism to be used so the police department has something to go on, they have a lead. The bill prohibits cash transactions by second-hand dealers. Defined to include... What? Yes, defined to include garage sales, flea markets, resellers of specialty items, even non-profit resellers like Goodwill. Curiously, pawnbrokers are exempt from the ban, of course.

1:49:47 This is very, very, very bad. Very bad. Was it passed? Yes. Or is it up for a vote? It was passed. House Bill 195, State of Louisiana, passed. Says passed? Yes, it says, with the passage of. Okay. Now, was it... I don't know if it has been signed. It's an illegal bill. There's no way that that's constitutional. Well, let's take a look and see if... If you read the Federal Reserve notice, it says this is good for all debts and blah blah blah. It's got it on the bill. It's a US government issued bill that should be used for paying things. It's illegal to make that not true.

1:50:29 Well, it also says, in God we trust, you know, so I don't know how... Well, you've got to trust somebody. Whatever the case, this is not a legal bill. It's bullcrap. You said... Everybody from... Craig's List, you know, you can't do any cash transactions on anything. Give me a break. This is like a... And this isn't gonna... Oh, then here's law enforcement again looking for some easy way. Well, you know, a guy sold some stolen goods. Just go to the next state. You could drive out of Louisiana in an hour and a half. I'm trying to see if the governor has passed it, because that would be the final hurdle. House Bill 195, let me see. Well, of course, they've been doing this all over the world, and we even received a communique from... who was this from? Some bank douche. Let me see. It was... I think it was Chase. Yeah, JPMorgan Chase. You're no longer... you are prohibited from storing cash in your bank safety deposit box.

1:51:31 Well, they can do that. It's their business. They can. They can. I thought I would be able to find out if it was passed or not. Hold on. One nine or five, recreates. I think it looks like it might have been an amendment to something that they tacked on there, which means it probably will be signed into law. I think it got signed into law. I'm not 100% sure. Whatever the case, I said it, I heard it, I caught it. Whatever the case Just cuz you catch it doesn't like that gives me license to use it. No it gives you zero license to use it Anyway

1:52:11 This is illegal. It's an illegal... If anybody takes it to court, I mean, it's ridiculous. How can you do that to the public? Why would you screw your own public in Louisiana? Oh, because law enforcement now can look at it, you know, credit cards could be stolen. Well, they just want to track your movements. And you're running a garage sale, you got to go to the bank and sign up for credit card payments or you got to get one of those little square guys. Yeah, square. They might have lobbied for it, who knows? Some people don't have credit cards. For every transaction, a secondhand dealer must obtain the seller's personal information. The seller's personal information such as name, address, driver's license, license plate number, the vehicle in which the goods were delivered. What? If the seller cannot or refuses to produce the secondhand dealer of any required forms of identification, the secondhand dealer is prohibited from completing the transaction.

1:53:05 What is that? And this includes garage sales and flea markets and ham swap meets Swap me I can just hear the hams going nuts. What is it? I got I got this get on the horn and stop this hams You're a ham. Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not from Louisiana. I'm in the great state of Texas We don't we didn't allow this in Texas. Oh, no, they would not this would not be happening. I But it does look like, um, so I'm going to buy, so you know, like a bookshelf, a used bookshelf from you at a garage sale. And now I have to give you all my ID and you got to write down my license. I think it's, no, I think that's different. If you are, um, let's say you're a flea market dealer and you acquire things from people, you need to get all that information from the person you bought it from before you sell it on to anybody because it could be, you could be fencing, I guess. Um,

1:54:04 But the cash transaction is just foreboding. And again, including Goodwill. A lot of... So if I go to Goodwill and give them a bunch of old clothes, they have to take all my details just in case I'm fencing used clothes? Yes, yes, yes. Here's a couple old ties. Oh, you might be fencing those. They may be stolen from the prince. Yeah. Give me a break. Now that's something people should get it worked up about instead of these tunnels under Walmart. The shelves are empty people the shelves are empty we've got a big exclusive I should find that I got to find this video because it was the funniest thing hold on just

CHAPTER 34 / 48 Discussion

Viral Video of Empty Walmart Shelves, Pico Rivera

A viral YouTube video showing empty shelves and a police perimeter at a closed Walmart in Pico Rivera, California, is analyzed. The hosts mock the dramatic tone of the video, reiterating that empty shelves are a standard feature of a store undergoing a total remodel and inventory liquidation.

walmart· pico rivera· youtube· police perimeter· viral video

1:54:53 Indulge for a moment while I find this. I think you'll get a kick out of it. It was one of those, hello, hello people. Well, you won't believe what they're doing now. It's really crazy. We've got exclusive video. Walmart. Hold on, this is funny. Exclusive... I should have clipped that. We could have had a good laugh, but here it is. Exclusive footage inside closed Walmart in California. Here we go. This is Daboo7 with a big update to this subscriber... Why is that? Don't make that suck, please. Why is that now sucking? ...that lives 10 minutes away from this Pico Rivera location in California. And she has supplied us with some footage that I'm going to share with you guys and some photos.

1:55:39 Showing what's going down here now right out the gate whenever someone says you guys in a YouTube video You can just fast forward it's gonna be she the windows are covered in a black plastic. Whoa our black tarp pointed out Oh black plastic lace completely dead let me fast forward to the going inside here We go that it showed up wanting to get their prescriptions because that part fortunately was still open fortunately for now as you can see oops she states There were cops at every entrance. Oh! Cops! Of the perimeter. Perimeter! Especially at the receiving bay. The perimeter, John. Perimeter. Now, they made their way up, and there was an area blocked off... Listen to this girl. A woman cop. What the fuck? Why is it doing this? It's... something weird is going on with that. It's alright, we get it.

1:56:31 This right here, let them into the building and this is what she saw. Rows and stacks of empty shelves all the way around blocking the view. Blocking the view! I'll roll some footage and let you guys see this. Roll some footage. Be very afraid. Look at this, this is great. This is so crazy. We've got footage, we're going inside and they held the iPhone in portrait mode instead of landscape. Of course. Yeah. We're walking in, we're seeing nothing but empty-

1:57:14 State it stated was quiet. It's quiet pharmacy here It was quite an empty store with nothing on the shelves You can see completely blocked off. Yeah, so what they did is they put some empty shelves. Yeah, they stacked it Yeah, just a little area so you can get to your get to your rear the pharmacy. Yeah, we keep the pharmacy open for good reason There are police around the complete perimeter perimeter is surrounded by policing the docking bay Receiving Bay and someone walks up to her and says hey and tells her to stop stop filming well Yeah, you're in Walmart, and this just goes on and on shelves are empty the police are around the perimeter. Oh my goodness I hope I never sounded like that ever in my life, but I probably did at some point That's fine

CHAPTER 35 / 48 Discussion

Loretta Lynch Nomination, Samantha Power 2008 Armenia Video

President Obama's frustration with the delayed nomination of Loretta Lynch is discussed, with the hosts noting her personal ties to Eric Holder. A 2008 video of Samantha Power promising that Obama would recognize the Armenian Genocide is revisited on the 100th anniversary of the event, highlighting the administration's failure to follow through on that promise.

loretta lynch· samantha power· armenian genocide· barack obama· nepotism

1:58:04 Okay, we got the... I don't know if we're going to listen to this. Actually, we didn't play this clip. This is the Loretta Lynch kind of, I think Obama kind of blowing up. And this is the new holder. The new holder who's a friend of Holder's wife, I think. They went to school together, they've on some charities together. Yeah, they know each other, which is kind of... Ah, well, gee, I'm shocked there's a... Nepotism going on. Who knew? Do we have a nepotism? We probably do. I just found this to be an amusing clip because Obama is just like, off the rails as far as I'm concerned. Today's deal tweaks the abortion language in a way that both sides say they can accept. It also comes several days after President Obama blasted the delay of the Lynch nomination. There are times where the dysfunction in the Senate just goes too far. This is an example of it.

1:59:02 My wife's friend, Folder's friend should be brought in. It's gone too far. Enough. Enough. Enough. Enough. Call Loretta Lynch for a vote. Get her confirmed. Put her in place. Let her do her job. This is embarrassing. No, you know what's embarrassing? Embarrassing is this little video by Samantha Power from 2008 when she was talking about her friend Barack Obama being the man for the job and particularly when we talk to the Kardashians.

1:59:42 I'm sorry, the Armenian community. I am Samantha Power, a professor at the Kennedy School of Government and one of Barack Obama's senior foreign policy advisors. And I just wanted to speak with you, the Armenian community, about the reasons I'm supporting Barack Obama. What I've seen in Obama over the years now, the last few years, is his unshakable conscientiousness about human rights. on the issue of genocide prevention, whether with regard to understanding the cost of denial and the degree to which that fuels further cycles of violence or a real-life genocide that's going on as we speak, which is that in Darfur and the leadership he's taken on that issue. Moreover, though, what is amazing about Barack and as I, a non-Washington person, so gravitate toward is his willingness to challenge conventional wisdom and conventional Washington.

2:00:36 As your community knows better than anybody, business as usual in Washington leads to certain bad habits that are destructive for human rights and for human dignity. His very forthright statement on the Armenian genocide, his support for the Senate resolution acknowledging the genocide all these years later, his willingness as president to commemorate it. and certainly to call a spade a spade and to speak truth about it. I know him very well and he is a person of incredible integrity and he's not going to focus group his way to making very important policy decisions. He's a true friend of the Armenian people, an acknowledger of the history. I hope you in the Armenian community

2:01:24 We'll take my word for it. Take my word. I hope you'll just pay attention in these coming days to everything that comes out of that person's mouth, Barack Obama's mouth, because he's a person who can actually be trusted. Amen. Fist bump. That's right, Armenia. Wow. There's just a hundredth anniversary just occurred and nothing. Shh. Quiet. Don't say anything. He won't even say it. Forget the resolution. He won't even say, yeah, it was genocide. Yeah, no, he's done. He's good. That bull- Amen. Fist bump. That bullcrap that he said is bullcrap. Bullcrap. And she's a sucker. You can trust him. Trust me, you can trust him. So the local news story around here I thought was kind of amusing. I just think it's just the set because I bitch and moan about bicyclists and the kind of the mentality we have. Oh, I haven't noticed. San Francisco Bay Area. This is the kind of thing that goes on. You need to move out of there.

CHAPTER 36 / 48 Discussion

Airline Cabin Rage, Shrinking Seats, Pen Stabbing Incident

An incident on a Southwest Airlines flight involved a woman stabbing a snoring passenger with a pen. The segment attributes the rise in "air rage" to packed planes and the reduction of legroom to as little as 28 inches. The hosts argue that the stressful environment is turning passengers against one another.

southwest airlines· air rage· knee defenders· seat pitch· chicago

2:02:14 I love it. This is the kind of thing that goes on. Stabbing by pen on an airplane. I snorted, I'm sorry. A stunning moment on board a Southwest flight just before takeoff in Chicago after a bizarre incident of air rage. Look at this. You can see on this man's sleeve a fellow passenger attacking him with a pen. That woman escorted off, reportedly annoyed by his loud snoring. And she's not the only one losing her temper. ABC's David Curley tonight. This pen turned into a weapon of sorts on a man who was snoring. Imagine being asleep and then being stung by bees and waking up and going, ow. Police board. The evidence? Blue ink on his shirt from the pokes or stabs from the woman sitting next to him. This all happened before takeoff from Chicago. She was smirking and we just never, I mean, she said zero. She was escorted off.

2:03:09 personal space invasion that can get nasty. Remember the woman sleeping on a man's lap? Or the woman who last year threw a soda in a man's face because he used a pair of those knee defenders to keep her seat from reclining? If you talk to flight attendants, air rage is on the rise. partly because of the packed planes and the incredible shrinking seat. Narrower, and from 34 inches of legroom a couple of decades ago, cut to 32, 30, even 28 inches in some low fare operators. We're headed to more trouble if we don't take this seriously and take a look at what's happening in the aircraft cabin environment today. The woman with the pen was not charged. She was put on a later flight to New Hampshire.

2:03:50 I want to charge her. So the guy's snoring away and this woman just takes a pen and starts stabbing him. Yeah, I think we need to recognize that human beings are a-holes. I mean, not the ones who, you know, I think the NOAA general listeners are in a different category and some are thinking in a much higher plane of vibrations. But in general, this type of behavior comes from I really think it comes all the way from the leadership in Washington, D.C. Well, it also doesn't help to have these 28-inch, as they mentioned... No, that doesn't...no, that doesn't help. ...you're packing a bunch of people into these. And then these airlines have the gall to suggest standing room only seats every so often, which is... Yeah, well, that's...but that's not really the problem. You know, you deal with it and we're all in the same boat, but no, we're now gonna have to be assholes to each other.

CHAPTER 37 / 48 Discussion

Baltimore Riots, Poverty, and Economic Disparity

The riots in Baltimore are characterized as a consequence of systemic poverty and economic lies from national leadership. The hosts argue that while the media focuses on racial tension and police conduct, the underlying issue is a hollowed-out middle class and a population frustrated by debt and lack of opportunity.

baltimore· riots· unemployment· poverty· middle class

2:04:45 And by the way, we're seeing riots now in Baltimore. You know, what is happening here? Why you see black people on the street? I'm going to say it very clearly because it kind of struck me as I was watching this live footage and, you know, people coming up, just jumping in front of the CNN guy, fuck the police, you know, with a full on grill too. It was pretty cool. It was like, like Flavor Flav was on there. This is what happens when the leadership of a country tells you all is well, and unemployment is lowest ever since I've been around, and the economy is great, because the poverty, the real poverty has been pushed into ghettoized areas of primarily African Americans, Hispanics,

2:05:31 But believe me, just because we see a lot of black faces, it's going to happen with a lot of white faces too. This is what poverty does. People have no more. and the people who are just getting by, they're the ones that start poking each other with pens because they're so frustrated about their own situation. They can't get by. They're completely filled up to the gills in debt. They don't know what to do to get to the next month. They can't take any kind of break. They've got ISIS and all these fear-mongering things all over the place, and cyber and whatever it is.

2:06:08 It starts now. You see it here. It is going to only get worse and it will be blamed on bad cops and anything except the truth, which is particularly the president of the United States is lying, lying, lying. He's lying, lying. It's shit. The only reason why we're still alive is because we provide entertainment, which traditionally in bad times does okay. This is true. And everybody else is in dire straits. We see it in the donations too. It's not just people giving a shit about our show. It's poverty. And it's all blamed on something else. And then the middle class, where we're all supposed to be, the middle class is stretched. And people are shne- What is this? I have the right here to be on this plane, quiet! Don't snore! I'll poke you in the head, poke you in the head, poke you in the head. I've seen these people.

CHAPTER 38 / 48 Discussion

Yanis Varoufakis on Greek Debt and Oligarchy

Greek Finance Minister Yanis Varoufakis discusses the failure of austerity measures and the need to "reboot" the Greek economy. He argues that the current system allows the oligarchy to maintain tax immunity while the base of the social economy suffers. Varoufakis maintains that Europe will not expel Greece from the Euro despite philosophical differences.

yanis varoufakis· greece· euro· austerity· oligarchy

2:07:07 It's a virus of the mind and they're freaking out. Well, there's definitely lots of them. And of course I could go into my wealth tax thing, which would probably solve some of these issues. But let's go to listen to the super economist, crazy guy, the bald guy in Greece. The the cool, the cool dude. Volkov Volkov. Voldemar. And he wants to, he brings up the oligarchy and says, you know, the rich aren't even being taxed at all. But this was a little interview he had on Democracy Now! when Amy Winehart... Goodheimer. Amy Goodheimer.

2:07:49 I asked him, do you think you're going to get kicked out of the Euro? And I think he gave the absolute best answer to this and had a few little gems in here. And it's very... I listened to this guy, he's a lot longer than this little clip. This guy is actually incredibly sharp. Well, we've discussed this. Yeah. What is the clip name? The clip name is Euro and the Greek Guy. What will you do if Europe expels you from the euro? I'm going to poke them with a pen. Europe is not going to expel us from the euro. I refuse to believe that Europe would ever operate that way. Remember that since the end of the Second World War, European peoples and their governments have been working tirelessly to bring closer integration together. Nobody in Europe wants to begin the process of disintegration over what is, after all,

2:08:44 a very small philosophical difference of opinion regarding how to stabilize a small economy like Greece. Our position is that folks, the last five years offer decisive proof that this program that you had agreed with previous governments was not working. And now we need to reboot it, we need another one. And we need one that makes perfect sense, that is completely undogmatic and which does two major things. Firstly, it removes the austerity-driven logic from the scene because it's self-defeating and it's pushing debts up rather than down by attacking incomes from which the debts will have to be repaid.

2:09:24 And secondly, deep reforms that attack the malignancies of the Greek social economy and in particular the oligarchy and the very gross level of inequality which is adding to the crisis. When you are turning a society like Greece into less equal, into a more unequal society and you reduce the tax base by allowing the rich to get away without paying their taxes to have tax immunity and constantly to be looking at small scale parasitic behavior while neglecting the grand scale parasitic behavior, then you're simply making a bad thing worse. I spoke to a Greek

CHAPTER 39 / 48 Discussion

MTV Technology Documentary, Honest Liar, and Personal Anecdotes

A host describes being interviewed for an MTV documentary about the history of technology and cable television. The discussion touches on the early days of MTV.com and the parallels between the gatekeepers of cable TV and the modern internet. The segment also mentions the documentary "An Honest Liar" regarding James Randi.

mtv· documentary· an honest liar· tyler durden· technology history

2:10:09 Kid or direct a kid from Greek descendant yesterday. So yes a Tuesday I was being interviewed for a documentary and he was a local guy camera 4k camera, so he rents himself out and you know afterwards the Documentary dude who was actually it's pretty famous. He's getting famous. He has a his documentaries is out now called an honest liar and which is pretty good about deceit in fortune tellers and all kinds of stuff like that. And I said, what are you hearing from the old country? He said, everybody, my entire family, everybody wants the drachma bat.

2:10:47 Are you kidding me? Do you actually think that's gonna work? They really want it. Well, how about Syriza? Well, you know, they're not super happy but they think they're the guys that will at least get something done and they hold the Greek according to him all want to get out of the euro go back to the drachma unaware apparently of And he actually said that we'll have hyperinflation for a while, but then it'll calm down. We'll be better Okay sticking in the neighborhood. What's the... Doc, you can't just drop this bomb. I'm part of a documentary and not tell us anything. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. So the guy's name is Tyler... what is it? Durden. Yes. Former LDS, by the way. It was very interesting to talk about that for a little bit. He was raised Mormon.

2:11:37 And he's in a couple of the docs, but this one is even playing now in Austin. So there was like, I got a request through my agent from LA who has never gotten me a paying job ever. And I never hear from him. And it's been more than a year. Hey, it's Matthew. money. And then I go look at the guy and I see the films, he's gonna do an MTV documentary. However, it is not just about Hey, man, I was like, was like the interview Bon Jovi. which I would not have done. But it was more about how it was actually a lot of MTV and technology. So I got to tell my funny story about how MTV said, Oh, go ahead, Curry. You can use MTV.com when the internet's nothing, we've got the AOL keyword, stuff like that. Right. And, but how I'm thinking during that era, by the way, but also parallels between cable television and internet. And of course we see the same things happening now with gatekeepers and what can and cannot be done. And, uh,

2:12:35 Yeah, it's a labor of love. I hope he gets it all together. He's got a couple people already. It might be something different. Are you wearing your beard? A little bit of beard, yes. I thought I would do a t-shirt. I had a jacket on, but a t-shirt with a weiner dog with a unicorn horn that says Believe. You didn't bring a No Agenda t-shirt? No. No, I didn't. I don't have them. Wait, did you give them? Yes, why yes. And that brings me to a little segment. A little segment I like to call, thank you for Christmas in April. The Facebook group, No Agenda Facebook group, apparently they, so I mentioned my PO box in Austin, 41958.

CHAPTER 40 / 48 Discussion

Listener Gifts, No Agenda Business Cards, and Bosun Whistle

The hosts thank listeners for various gifts sent to their Austin PO box, including custom No Agenda business cards with QR codes, glow sticks, and a new Philips Sonicare toothbrush. A "bosun whistle" sent by John Fletcher is demonstrated on air.

vistaprint· glow sticks· sonicare· bosun whistle· po box

2:13:23 And I said, I should go and empty that thing out and see what's going on. You know, when you open the PO box and it's crammed and there are five keys in there because that means that there's five other articles that were too big to cram into the box. You know, this is going to be a good day. I could not carry this stack of packages out of the post office in one go. I had to go back two times. I want to thank Trevor Howard who sent me a fantastic package. This is obviously the No Agenda CD package and along with that now comes business cards. So there's a whole VistaPrint box of business cards. On one side it says just No Agenda, on the other side it just has the QR code for noagendashow.com and has the new CDs which I think the labeling is just beautiful. So I want to thank Trevor for that.

2:14:11 Then I want to thank... Trevor, what about Ramsey? Well, Trevor Howard sent them. Oh, okay. But they're Ramsey product. Citizen X. Now, Citizen X, this is how it was tipped off to me. I said, hey, you know, we were talking about sending you stuff and she sent me glow sticks. She's got a big crush on you, you know. Yeah, and she sent me... I think you have one of those. You know, you played that earlier and as soon as you did I said, you know, I forgot where mine even is. Yeah. Then let me see, I got... Is it a metal one or is it a plastic one? Plastic. Benjamin Ritgers, I believe, challenge coin that I received that we talked about along with his donation notes. So I got that one, thank you very much.

2:15:06 Then I have, this is from Baroness Tanya, what did she send again? Oh, she sent me a book, Please Kill Me, which is a book about punk rock, love that. And Sir Birch, Sir Birch up there sent me a brand new Philips Sonicare Diamond Clean. He says, just in case Mickey took the other one, please use it in the morning and in the evening, thank you. Did Mickey take the other one? No. But the other... this is a new version. You can do your teasing half the time. Ah, but I mean... And then finally this is from... this is from Trevor I think. This is... yeah, this is from Trevor. So that's his note. Okay. And then from... this is the final article from our very own John Fletcher. He sent me...

2:16:01 an actual bosun whistle. Yeah, I've got one. Now, I thought you could go up and down in tone, but I haven't figured out how to do it. There's some way of doing it with your, you use one of your fingers. Oh. See, you get different tones there. Yeah, and it sounds so... I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, No Agenda, I'm all in. Oh brother. Let's thank a few people who have helped us here at the show 715 Anonymous in Montevideo, Uruguay. Wow. $111.11. I would love to visit Uruguay. Are you going my way or Uruguay? What? Never mind. Paraguay or Uruguay? Either one. I think both of them.

CHAPTER 41 / 48 Discussion

International Donor Roll Call, Birthday Shout-outs

A long list of international donors from Uruguay, Canada, Norway, Finland, and the UK are acknowledged for their financial support. The segment includes several birthday wishes for listeners and their family members, maintaining the show's "value-for-value" model.

uruguay· canada· norway· finland· value-for-value

2:16:59 Well Paraguay is where all the black market stuff takes place for the Brazilians. Chris Bonk in Thornhill, Ontario, Canada 104.30. We have a birthday call out there. Also for Tim Connor, Edmonton, Alberta. Another birthday thing is for him. Coming up, Chris Rold Tingensdal in Norway, $100. Anonymous again, and he's back in Sepulpa, Oklahoma. $100. Sir Walter Rapps in Kirkrad, Limburg, Holland. So it would be Sir Wilbert Rapps in Kirkrad. Kirkrad. Kirkrad, Limburg. Limburg.

2:17:51 Which is the cheese. Yeah, that's a cheese. It's not a place or anything or a province. It's just a lot of time. This is funny when you're in the train. I said once so well jump on the train. Hey, you go. It just go around. How'd I go? There's a bunch of towns that are named after cheese. Yeah, exactly. Lear, Dummer. Emmentaler Charles Kohler in Bothell Bothell Bothell was a nice Dutch town of cheddar There is no cheddar. I don't even seem to eat it. He did send a note, a handwritten note. He said, this is a lot of these. I get a lot of this mail. Yeah. Five in Spanish is Cinco, not Chisanko. You drive me crazy every Cinco de Mayo and all I hear from you is Cinco de Mayo. I say Cinco de Mayo. No, he's talking to me. Oh, I say Cinco. Oh, well, then you should listen to the screaming man. Cinco de Mayo!

2:18:53 I'm a douche. Oh, you're not. Cinco. No, you're not a douche. Cinco. We have Sean Coffey in Annandale, New South Wales, $80.80. Ronald Montesano in New York, New Paltz, New York. Carolina Garcia, $74.73 in Elmwood Park with a douchebag check. Oh, douchebag check. Douchebag check. And we got a birthday call out for her. Aaron Murphy in Rio Rancho, New Mexico, 72-73. Daniel Ehrlich in Bowlesburg, Pennsylvania, 71-40. Eric Hunsaker in Farmington,

2:19:41 Farmington, Utah. 69, 69. Richard Chow in Froliching, California. 69, 69. Sean DeSantis in Fort Pierce, Florida. 69. Stuart Morrison in Doncaster, Victoria, Australia. 69. Sir D.H. Slammer. We got some action with the Slammers apparently. 66, 60. There's a birthday coming up. Kevin Dill's Charlotte, North Carolina, 6432. Sandelin Media Oyb Ab, which I mean, it's a company, I think. And Helsingfor's Finland. Algamain or something or other, yeah. Yeah. Finland. Valet Pill. What? Vale. Vale Pill. Vale Pilly, I think.

2:20:30 Think yeah, Boulder, Colorado 5999 Matthias. Uh, my team else Matias, Matias, Daniel in Vienna, Vienna, 55 Benjamin Roger Ritgers in Ames, Iowa 5110 double nickels on the dime for Les Smith and Tiburon, California. Also, Steven Schnabel in, um, someplace in the UK, 55 double niggles on the dime for him. Aknashin, Aknashin, Aknashin, I've never heard of Aknashin. I never heard of it either. Paul West in Simi Valley, California, double niggles on the dime. Artman, John Artman in China, Beijing, 54-15, nice. Hey, welcome. Try it last year. Say Shan Wu. Hit it.

2:21:21 Bill Johnson in Grovetown, Georgia, $51.33. Roger Esty in Palm Harbor, Florida, $51. And now these final folks and producers are all $50 donors, including Brandon Stewart in Dallas, Texas. Matthew again. Or the different one, same guy. Mathieu. Mathieu in Gatineau, Quebec. Not the same guy. Macy Stalowski. Almost every show. Almost every single show. Yeah, lots of shows. Calgary, Alberta. Because it's Calgary. Sandy Geisler in Watkinsville, Georgia. Brandon Merrick or Menk. Menk, M-E-N-K. In Tempe, Arizona.

2:22:09 Andrew Martin in Torello, New South Wales. A lot of last season New Zealanders today. Jason Daniels in Dallas, Texas. Mark DeWitt in Saudi Daisy, Tennessee. Really? I live in Saudi Daisy. Simon Lingshed in Denmark. He's probably got better pronunciation. Buttered Dyke bout and egg out and I bout in as an end in there in Edinburgh Edinburgh Edinburgh Edinburgh Edinburgh UK Steve Corona California now a Steve in Corona, California Mark Dump Dunford in Waco, Texas and Paul Vela who we hear from a lot. I think sir Paul Vela, but I'm mistaken in Milton Keynes

2:23:06 Ashley Blanco in Mayfield Heights, Ohio. Judy Schwartz in Byrne, Texas. Steve... What? Bernie. Is it pronounced Bernie? Bernie, yes. Eh, local pronunciation, I never guessed that. Steve Winslow in Bristol, Avon, UK. And finally, Ignacio Garcia Perez in Spain, outside of Madrid if I'm not mistaken. And finally, our good old buddy over here in Oakland, California, Benjamin Smith. Folks that donated to show 715 want to thank each and every one of them and remind you we do have 716 coming up and would appreciate all the support we can get. Yes, and we have a couple of birthdays on the way and we also have a couple of nightings and one posthumous daming and I'd like to share the note.

CHAPTER 42 / 48 Discussion

Posthumous Knighting of Dame Cathy, Hot Pockets Tour

In a somber segment, the hosts posthumously knight "Crash Helmet Cathy," a long-time listener who recently passed away from cancer. Her nephew, Sir Scott, requested the honor in lieu of a traditional funeral. The knighting ceremony commemorates her loyalty to the show since the 2008 "Hot Pockets" tour.

knighthood· cancer· hospice· hot pockets tour· memorial

2:23:55 Because we met all of these folks on the 2008 Hot Pockets tour in Chikshini with the Greers. In the morning, back in the Hot Pockets 2008 tour in Chikshini, you met Crash Helmet Kathy. You remember she had that the kooky-ass crash helmet on that said... she had no agenda on it, written on it in magic marker. You might remember. Yeah, I do. I remember that photo. Yeah. Okay, she was suffering from cancer, just had chemo, was totally bummed that she couldn't make it down from New York to meet you on the tour. Of course, her whole family was there. Since she's the most loyal NA fan right from the beginning of the show, for the past few years my mom, Vicky, has been sending you our family's Noah Jenner Christmas card and periodic updates about Kathleen.

2:24:43 Her condition went from okay to bad and back again over the last few years. However, things deteriorated pretty badly for her last fall and well, her fuck cancer karma finally ran out on January 31st. NoAgenda has been a really great bonding point for us. It has provided us with many of the discussion points through which Kathy and I got to know each other. Uncle Rick and Kathy have been visiting my family for Christmas for years. I always look forward to seeing them sharing NA gag gifs and having a good old-fashioned crackpot NA discussion. We were all close before, but the inside baseball of the show gave us a special camaraderie that made spending time with them truly meaningful. The show was a big part of how we interacted with each other. I can't remember the last time I called him and it didn't say, in the morning douchebags. In fact, my last conversation with Kathy during her last few days in hospice started out with, in the morning slave. We exchanged a few memes from the show, even then knowing how things were going to end. It was really moving to pass some no agenda jokes back and forth one last time.

2:25:40 FEMA Region 3 is going to be a lot of fun. This Sunday, April 26, in lieu of a glum funeral, there's going to be a celebration of Kathy's life with family and friends. I haven't monitored my donation total since my knighthood in 2012, but it turns out I have an extra knighthood that I never cashed in, accounting attached. Rather than getting the baronet title, I would like to posthumously donate the knighthood to Kathy. If you could knight Dame Cathy posthumously on Sunday's show, that would be the most meaningful thing I could think of to commemorate her. It also means a lot to Uncle Rick, who was a tireless and loving caregiver for Cathy. I want to thank you all for the work you've done for the show. It may seem thankless at times, but it's really brought us together and been a uniting factor for me and my family, Uncle Rick and Cathy. She may be gone, but she hit a lot of people in the mouth on her way out, and I can't adequately put into words

2:26:30 my appreciation for the show and the impact it has had on our lives. Thank you so much. Amen, Fist Bump. Sir Scott Protector of the Dykes on Bikes. So yes, yes, yes, yes, a million times yes. And we will certainly miss the humor of now-to-be Dame Cathy, but you guys can obviously keep that going. Amen, Fist Bump. And we say happy birthday to Tim Conner today. Carolina Garcia says happy birthday to her husband. He turns the magic number 33 on April 14th. Les Smith says happy birthday to his lovely wife Kim. She celebrated on the 20th of April. Benjamin Rickers 39 on April 22nd.

2:27:18 Dame Bang Bang and Sir DH Slammer were the oldest. Their oldest is turning 10 on the 25th. Chris Bonk, happy birthday to Rick on April 30th. And finally, the man who keeps it all running, keeps the infrastructure running, keeps the cyber attacks at bay. Happy birthday to Mark Void Zero turning 31 on Saturday. Finally, I got it out. Happy birthday to all of you from the best podcast in the universe. And I'd like to invite Sir Kevin, Kevin Lacombe up, Ted Erickin of course in memorandum. In memoriam I should say we have Kathy, so let us grab our swords, an extra long one to be able to really whack that helmet. Here we go.

2:28:06 And Cathy, I know you're around there somewhere. All of you are now about to enter the exclusive club known as the Round Table of the Knights and the Dames of the No Agenda Show. And I hereby pronounce the K-Thee Sir Kevin of Devon, Sir Theodore of the present moment, and of course Dame Cathy. For you, wherever you are, Rent Boys and Chardonnay, Hookers and Blow, Progressive Rock and Russian Imperial Stout, Root beer and legos, girlfriend experience and good bourbon, Cuban cigars and single malt scotch, wenches and beer, geishas and sake, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, and obviously mutton and meat. And we will send you off your ring and the entire kit. Please retweet that. Go to noenginemination.com slash rings and we shall have it all taken care of. That was sweet.

CHAPTER 43 / 48 Discussion

Mohamed Morsi Sentencing, Egyptian Judicial System

Ousted Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi has been sentenced to 20 years in prison for his role in the deaths of protesters in 2012. The hosts discuss the irony of the "only democratically elected leader" of Egypt being held in a cage, comparing the situation to a "New World Order" charade where leaders are discarded if they don't follow the script.

mohamed morsi· egypt· muslim brotherhood· cairo· arab spring

2:28:52 So, uh... A little touchy, actually. We have... Very. Yeah. So we have another situation. You know, earlier in the show I mentioned the... Why can't these guys from Minnesota go to Syria if they want to? Yes. Because they're Americans. You can try. You have freedom of... Freedom of travel is a right. Freedom of movement is a right. Yeah. So what's the point? And we don't have a war declared. Declare war and then you can make... I think you can... Or the authorized use of military force might give you some thing, but even that I don't think can hold up against it. I don't think so.

2:29:28 And it's not, and are they, if you're in Libya, are you shooting at Americans? I don't think so about that either. So here's another one that's just, I don't know why this bothers me because the guy's an obvious douchebag and we should, you know, and he's, I didn't like him from the beginning and, but now he's been charged with murder and the, we're talking about Morsi. This guy was elected as the president of the country. He was elect, duly elected. In India, let's just point India. Not in India. Pakistan. I'm talking about Morsi. Oh, Morsi. I thought you said Modi. Morsi, yes. Yeah, not Modi. Sorry, Morsi. Morsi, Modi. But Morsi, duly elected, first time they've ever had this sort of thing. Part of the Arab Spring. It was Egypt. Egypt. Yeah. Part of the Arab Spring. You know, we had Egypt, we had Libya, all these great things were going on with our tech experts and the Twitter accounts.

2:30:19 drubalize these places but and but I just thought that there was some irony to keep you visually have to see this Morsi guy looking like the fuck I do the only democratically elected leader of modern-day Egypt is headed to prison for 20 years on Tuesday a criminal court in Cairo sentenced the ousted Islamist president Mohammed Morsi to two years decades behind bars in connection with the murder of protesters back in 2012. It is the judicial climax in a dramatic downfall for Morsi and Egypt's once powerful Muslim Brotherhood. Well, Amnesty International has slammed the sentence calling it a travesty of justice.

2:30:59 A 20 year prison sentence for a freely elected president in a cage. The court convicted Mohamed Morsi of charges connected to the deaths of protesters. But he was acquitted of murder to the disappointment of many. Yeah, it's his new world order man. If you don't play along, you're out. Yeah, you gotta play the game. I mean, if you're gonna go with the deaths of protesters, I mean, Obama'd be in jail. Yeah, well he does take full responsibility. Maybe that helps. I got a little meaning here. I'm finding this, it's just, I don't know, I mean, what am I expecting? Like someone would say, what do you expect? No, you can't expect that. I mean, you're just fooling yourselves if you think that this is not a giant charade. But I just think it's funny.

CHAPTER 44 / 48 Discussion

Mediterranean Migrant Crisis, Refugee Euphemisms

The media's use of the term "Mediterranean migrants" to describe refugees fleeing conflict is analyzed. The hosts argue that "migrant" is a euphemism used to downplay the humanitarian disaster occurring as boats sink near Greece and Italy.

mediterranean· migrants· refugees· greece· rhodes

2:31:46 Well, he probably won't. This is the most horsey guy's in a cage and he's looking around, he never smiles. He's got his glasses on and he's got the douchebag beard and the whole thing and he says, I don't know. All I did was run for office. The only thing he's missing is a vape. The what? You got the douchebag beard, you gotta be vaping. Vaporizer, vape. Oh, vape, oh. As a meme, a meme that I find interesting, I could have done a whole montage. I'll just play this 30 seconds. You tell me what the meme is. Following the capsized ships in Italy, today in Greece, a boat runs aground near the island of Rhodes. At least three people dead. Survivors clinging to the floating debris while rescuers are trying to pull them ashore. A second boat carrying 300 people was reported sinking with reports claiming more fatalities. Right now, the international hot spot, Greece.

2:32:38 Hello everyone, I'm Dan Klefler, I'm in New York. As this migrant crisis is getting worse, European officials from 28 countries are in Luxembourg for emergency talks on how to handle this developing humanitarian disaster. Did you hear the meme? No. Mediterranean migrants. No. Yeah, how about refugees? They're refugees. People are getting on boats trying to get to Italy, trying to get to Greece, and they're being called migrants. Outstanding catch. But the best is when they say Mediterranean migrants. That's even funnier. We're having a good time here in the Mediterranean. I wouldn't call it a meme though. I would call it a euphemism, a new euphemism. Okay, yeah. But it's a good catch.

2:33:21 Yeah, and break and it is in the style guide because this isn't it's just a lie. These are not migrants. It's more lie Yes, refugees, but I love it Mediterranean migrants. Yeah, maybe miniature like we're in Club Med hanging out Popped up from an undersea thing. Yeah, let's go. Let's go migrate over to Italy. Yeah, there's some good parties there Earth Day, I would like to share with you some Earth Day Just this is, this is okay. This is as much as I love Austin and I will say I love Texas. This is the, you know, every building has a little, you know, their own little website, internal website and, and you know, what else do they have? They have little messages. You'll recall someone hung up a phony message about the, about the hamsters.

CHAPTER 45 / 48 Discussion

Earth Day Pledges, Mother Earth Vows, and Corporate Greenwashing

A resident newsletter from an Austin apartment complex is mocked for its "sophomoric" Earth Day messaging. The text encourages residents to "renew their vows to Mother Earth" by using reusable water bottles and washing laundry in cold water. The hosts criticize the juvenile level of thinking applied to complex social and environmental issues.

earth day· greenwashing· mother earth· sustainability· social issues

2:34:15 Yeah, which was funny. So, uh, but this is not a joke. This was actually sent out to the residents. Calling all humans! Earth Day is right around the corner! Here's your chance to step up your green game and show the earth some sweet lovin'! What? Let me continue. Calling all earthlings? No, calling all humans. Humans, okay. Earth Day is right, and it's all made pretty and stuff, you know? Sure. With little, you know, beautiful blue water. April 22nd is the day all of us renew our vows to Mother Earth. If I'm married to her, she better be sleeping with me.

2:34:56 The day we renew our vows to Mother Earth to take care of her as she's graciously taken care of us. Will you use less water? Unplug all of your electronics? Eat more locally grown produce? Choose one or all of the above by taking the pledge at MyEarthPledge.com. Then share it with your friends on Facebook or Twitter and help us spread the word! Here are a few tips on how to give a helping hand to Earth, not only on Earth Day but for every day. Tip number one, turn down the temp. For what? Earth, that's what. Wash your laundry in cold water instead of hot. Tip number two, chug it up in a trendy reusable water bottle. All those other plastic bottles take 450 years to decompose. And tip number three,

2:35:51 Quit with the snail mail and receive your bills online with the digital age and save trees and gas Excuse me. I'm just gonna go shoot myself My goodness people. This is really the mentality This is this is this is the level of people the thinking that people have about social issues. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty pretty juvenile I think would be the way to put it Sophomoric is another word I could use. Retarded. Retarded, that'd be a good one. And that's a word, by the way, you can, all in no agenda. People know that this, if we were on the regular broadcast network. Could not say that word. We could not say the word retarded. Could not say the word. It's not a word you can say. Could not say the word. So I got one last clip here that I want to play, which is the clip, which has another, I think a backstory, I think it's just propaganda.

CHAPTER 46 / 48 Discussion

FBI Hair Analysis Scandal, Innocence Project, and Clemency

The FBI has admitted that its forensic experts gave flawed hair analysis testimony in hundreds of cases over two decades, potentially leading to wrongful executions. The segment suggests the FBI is "cleaning house" under James Comey to avoid a larger scandal regarding DNA evidence. There is speculation that President Obama may use this as a pretext for a mass clemency event.

fbi· hair analysis· innocence project· james comey· death penalty

2:36:40 FBI labs screwed up hair analysis. Yes, I have this as well. Let's listen to what you have here. Tonight the FBI is notifying hundreds of convicts nationwide that flawed analysis of hair samples at the FBI lab may have resulted in their convictions. Some of the defendants won't get the notice. They've already been executed. I have a longer report and I think I know what this is about because it irritated me when I heard heard a little more background. The Washington Post is now reporting that the FBI admits some of its experts gave flawed testimony in trials that spanned more than 20 years and they were part of an elite forensic unit and reportedly overstated hair matches in almost all criminal cases in which they presented testimony before the year 2000. And so we're talking

2:37:32 talking quite simply these examiners, these elite of examiners, have admitted to Not telling the whole truth right skewing their testimony in favor of in large part the prosecution so they lied I mean, that's a that's a fancy way of saying they lied went into trial knowing that they were fabricating Information and it may have in large part led to the convictions right or at least pertain, you know played a role in the conviction absolutely, so This was not some admission or this epiphany that some of these examiners had. This discovery is being made by way of, in large part, the Innocence Project. Which is just amazing. But the Justice Department helped, I guess, involve their perspective, right? So they did. They were recruited to look into this. Right. So the Justice Department and the FBI now are working closely with the Innocence Project as well as the National

2:38:33 Association of Defense Lawyers. And so they, along with the Innocence Project, have said, look, we have got to figure this out. These admissions, is there a reason? I mean, why? Why? I don't know why. And that's very interesting. And we haven't seen why. The Justice Department and the FBI have been very wise to say, look, this is a problem and we need your help in trying to get this resolved. But this, I don't understand it because you had 28 investigators in this elite unit 26 of them have done things that were not correct in these trials. Okay, I think I know what's going on here. It was interesting to have them just sit there and go, what? I don't understand why? What is going on? This is very strange.

2:39:16 Of course, the first thing I looked at is a new CSI debut. Could it be something like that? No. Of course, I went to the Innocence Project. And the Innocence Project, which I think is legit, about five, looking at their form 990, about five million in kitty. Yeah, I think so too. Yeah, I think it's a legit org. President Obama promised he was going to do the mother of all clemency. Thousands of people shall receive clemency. And I believe that the FBI thought to themselves, selves, why don't we get all the dirty laundry out now and cover it up with the president giving clemency to the, it's only 300 people that they're talking about that are still left. And the president can go with my magic wand, I give you all clemency. I wonder about that.

2:40:03 It is still a slap in the face of the FBI. I have a couple thoughts on this myself. One, I think is as part of a liberal scheme to, you know, to berate and screw up any states that have the death penalty because this proves that this is horrible to do that because you killed a bunch of innocents. That was the punchline. Good one, good one, good one. The timing for that is perfect with the Boston trial. Boston trial? Right. So there's a lot of that. There's that element. And there's also, I think there's probably another dimension to this besides the entertainment aspects. And if I could think of what it was, which I didn't write down, I'm going to have to, give me some backup here. Well, okay. I believe the FBI. Oh yes. Oh no, this is, the reason this, because it's not a direct thing. I have a question. This is thematic of the show today. Sorry, I forgot that right on the spot.

2:41:03 Out of this, how come somebody who they claim lied and it resulted in a dead man, they don't get nailed for murder, perjury or manslaughter? You know, if you accidentally run somebody over on the street, you may be well intended, not trying to run the person over, you're trying to avoid them, you kill somebody else. Sure. You get thrown in the slammer. People get thrown in the slammer for a lot less than what these guys did. How come there's never prosecution of this sort of malfeasance? They had to remember the Ted Stevens when he was railroaded by the Justice Department.

2:41:42 And then it came out with a judge that this is bad, you can't do this, what you're doing is illegal, it's not even... How come nobody ever pays the price for that? Well, that's just like they arrested some coder. Seriously, a software developer is now going to jail for the flash crash of 2010 because he created a little program with existing code and he made some money. And the banks who are doing this all the time, you know, at a millionth of a second, a thousandth of a second, now no one's going to jail. And this brings me to another point, which is

2:42:21 One second. Let's remember James Comey is cleaning up the FBI. I still think he wants to clean everything up because we can't have people catching on to the fact that the DNA stuff, it's just not necessarily really all good and that people will lie. It doesn't work and they lie. So this has to be, I think we'll see a clemency. I agree with what you're saying about the death penalty, but I think that... Well, there's also the element that's going on in Baltimore. They're talking a big story. This brings this to mind. This is my last complaint. It's all part of the same similar anti-government complaint. Yes. So, in Baltimore, they had another one of these cop shootings, which is part of the, you know, I think, body cam. Was it a shooting or did he just fall out of the truck and broke his back? I don't know. They grabbed the guy and his back was severed somewhere. He wasn't shot, right? He was beat up and crippled. Whatever the case. And I said whatever the case again.

CHAPTER 47 / 48 Discussion

Baltimore Police Misconduct Settlements, Taxpayer Burden

The Baltimore Sun reported that the city has paid out $5 million in settlements for police misconduct and brutality over the last few years. The hosts argue that taxpayers are unfairly burdened by the incompetence of city government and law enforcement, as officers rarely face personal prosecution for their actions.

baltimore· police brutality· settlements· taxpayers· administrative leave

2:43:17 You're tired now. We need to end the show. I'm getting tired. They're revealing, the Baltimore Sun revealed that they've already paid out in the last number of years $5 million to like a hundred different people that were beat up by the cops or injured. At this point, your ticket out of poverty is to say, okay, which kid shall I have killed? Yeah. Right. You can get yourself a few hundred thousand. Who pays this? Who pays this five million? Now, most cities are insured, but the insurance policies go way up on cities like Baltimore. That means the taxpayers are paying for the crappy job that the cops are doing by beating people up.

2:43:57 or that the city government's doing and not fixing a sewer, or whatever it is, something caves in. Nobody ever gets called out on this. The mayor never goes to jail. The cop who beat the guy up never goes to jail. He gets fired, or he goes on administrative leave. There's never any prosecution of any of these people, yet the taxpayers are putting up with just dropping millions and millions of dollars over this incompetency. It's just galling. No wonder we're all broke. John C. DuBois, pet peeve of the day. Took me a while to get there, but I managed it. You made it. I will just leave you with one last thing that I hope will gall you as much as a gull. Monsanto. In fact, I put it under the Monsanto category, but it actually doesn't really belong there according to the information on this product, which I had not heard of. This is a new product, John, new product. There's a little theme song that goes with the product. Sing it, everybody!

CHAPTER 48 / 48 Discussion

TomTato Grafted Plant, Monsanto Campaign Ties, Show Outro

The show concludes with a look at the "TomTato," a plant that grows both tomatoes and potatoes through grafting rather than genetic modification. The hosts briefly mention Hillary Clinton's campaign ties to Monsanto before signing off and encouraging listeners to support the show via the newsletter and BitTorrent Sync.

tomtato· grafting· monsanto· hillary clinton· bittorrent sync

2:44:59 Tom-tato! That's right, the Tom-tato, John. It is a plant that has been modified so tomatoes grow on the vine and tomatoes underneath. It's hard to believe that it's not genetically modified, it's just grafting, but it's the truth! We've got the Tom-tato! I wish I had more to say so I could hit the final jingle. Tom-tato? Yes. No, the Tom-Tom-tato. Here it comes. Let's say it together now! It's just Tom-tato, not Tom-Tom-tato. I said Tom-tato. So it's a Tom-tato from Monsanto. What does it taste like? It's not from Monsanto. It's not from Monsanto. Okay, well that would make sense. I mean, they say it's just grafted and it's magic. The plant has gross tomatoes on the vine and potatoes underneath. This is bull crap.

2:46:03 This is not true. Well, it looks tasty to me and they got a jingle. So how could it be wrong? Is the Monsanto, is Hillary's campaign manager a Monsanto guy? Yeah. She's a Monsanto product actually. So she's a hybrid. Yeah, all right everybody. Thank you very much for participating in our little program as as we broadcast it twice a week Sundays and Thursdays available as a podcast and you can catch that anywhere you like Tom Tato also if you go to the show notes sign up for the newsletter you can always get the show via BitTorrent sync a preferred way to do it make sure you click on the enable DHT search and continue to support the work here at the best podcast in the universe

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