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00:00 Six-pound rodents. North Korean hacker threats continuing our broadcast from FEMA region 6, the capital of the drone star state in Austin Tejas. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and for Northern Silicon Valley where we're all gonna die from the Koreans! North Koreans that is...I'm Johnson. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! Ah but that is not the top news of the day John, that is just not the top news Well I have a prelude clip then if you're going to have the top news

00:44 Do you know what the top news is? Yeah, well it doesn't make any difference. It's an evergreen prelude Is it called Evergreen Prelude by any chance? Called another Parliament clip Ah! One of my favorites I'm sorry are you yelling at me? I-I'm announcing Mr Adam Curry and then they're all booing and cheering Somehow did the mix didn't work try to get Didn't?! No its because Skype you gotta like bleep bleep bleep Try it again. Okay, hit it. Yeah. It doesn't work. It's just not working. No, that's not working. Ah John woke up this morning email box filled. I'm sorry? I woke up this morning my email box in my inbox was filled with all kinds of concerned citizens. What were they concerned about? Apparently I'm divorced again.

01:42 Two-page spread in the newspaper today. Wow! Yeah, where did this news come from? I don't know it's interesting because there is no attribution to any sources who have this information Well you know what this always sounds like when something like this happens to me What sounds like what somebody recycled an old newspaper or they read and oh yeah i mean i know if you ever done this i think everybody has but You go on the internet and you or somebody sends you a link to an article. Yeah, and read this Oh my god, can you forget to look at the dates? 2011 well here so this is this was it wasn't a couple like seven weeks ago

02:27 That gossip mag had the photoshopped photo of me and Mickey on the front. Oh, it looks like they're getting divorced! And you look like a goofball Yeah well they've done more of that now It's unbelievable from the same series I look even goofier You look even goofy? How can that be?! Yeah its a profile shot Its all over Twitter so you should see it But the thing is No, there's no attribution. Not saying who has this information they haven't talked to Mickey or I and it is a two-page spread! And i'm convinced this is the boomerang effect you know because mickey has a show coming up in uh... In January solo show so she's setting up interviews and you know that's kind of the way it works What? Why don't get the boomerang part? Oh well when you put energy into the press It Boomerangs back oh I see what your thinking yeah it always does

03:24 But this one is really good because even though this article, I swear to God if you read it there's nothing in there that has any fact or any source of any information just oh it's being talked about. And uh...I have good friends! You can't find anything by searching. Uh, emailing me. Oh man I'm so sorry to hear this. But they can't tell you where this came from? This doesn't make zero sense! Listen... The thing is everyone believes it My own sister's like oh nooo I can't believe you're getting divorced again Did you read the fucking thing?! It's somebody- What was it that they read? The same thing what I just told you Just a bunch of rant tweets? No the headline in the paper is Adam and Mickey Getting Divorced

04:15 That's the same gossip rag. No, this is the newspaper that tell a cloud the big one huh so this is Wrong with these people they can't even get a story straight today recall for attribution or confirmation no Well of course my bother of course now everybody's calling hey we read this thing in the newspaper Yeah, I'm not gonna call you back. I'm like I'm gonna feed the machine. That's funny So that was my big news. And then there was all this other stuff, it's your big news. What? I'm getting divorced huh? Huh! And by the way how stupid are they don't they know that Mickey cannot she'd be stupid to divorce me now we have to have the two-year interview with Department of Homeland Security so she has the green card in the pocket

05:03 Yeah. And that one makes no sense? No, it doesn't after that yeah I understand living with a podcaster in Austin Texas is not you know what do you want to hear so what does your husband do he's a podcaster in Austin in Austin, Texas. What is it? What is that podcast? What does that even what is that? Can you make money doing this? Well, you know where you have VJ's or VJ's are kind of like the lowest rung of the show business ladder actually above that is curable lepers and then underneath VJ's were podcaster comps. And then they're curable lepers under them. It would make sense!

05:44 Anyway, before we get started. Thank you for the you invented both of these categories of show business I know isn't that great yeah? You're a double doubled you've done to come and do it not done any So I spent a lot of time in the past few days analyzing really taking a very very close look and You brought it up And I have to admit John C Dvorak You were right okay, I think Fox News does have a couple of transsexuals working for him. How was the timing? You took me in the wrong direction, you got me! How was my timing how is that was pretty good right yeah it was excellent alright Chag Sameach everybody happy Hanukkah I think so you say chag sameach I don't know what that even means I don't know if its happy Hanukkah because there's a war on Christmas you see that's why

06:42 Okay, it's a war on Christmas. You didn't know this? It's a war in the public! Well yeah I just have so many...I just couldn't stop yesterday it would not stop this the crazy that was just happening What?! With this Sony thing Oh it's out of control I got way too many clips My clips are revealing I have a theory Can I can I just follow on the war on Christmas? No you can take them off I'll come later I just want to because it's a war on Christmas. I just wanted to play a clip from Alan Dershowitz on CNN now Alan Dershowitz he's um is he a divorce attorney? No, he's just a regular attorney no he's a professor of law oh Jew and troublemaker and Jew

07:23 Yes, he's a Jew. The world will be full of fear remember the 11th of September 2001 we recommend you to keep yourself distant from the places at that time and if your house is nearby You'd better leave so this is a direct threat of physical violence At moviegoers and people who go to the mall This is also an attack on Christmas What? It's the Jew with the... Wait for his explanation. Because Christmas is not, you know, the day that the Son of God was born in the manger No no no, that's what Christmas is according to Dershowitz Let's be very clear about that because one of the reasons Sony had no choice but to pull Is this could affect Christmas shopping This could affect the way Christmas Day is

08:09 celebrated affect not only this movie but any movie playing in the same complex so this is a big in a way that's more serious than hacking because there isn't if you can simply send an email and bring the movie to a halt that's uh... that you know that said that's an incredible statement about what they had but the thing i think people need to realize is that Responding to that has a cost too. You know, backing away has a cost We've learned that the government is going to name North Korea as the culprit so you said your not a terrorism expert but state sponsored terrorism? Is that considered... This is clearly state sponsored terrorism Clearly! Clearly! The good news out of all this I'm backing in conversation with Uncle Don

08:59 Yeah, and he probably has some clue that this is bogus as a North Korean thing. Well of course he knows it's bogus the problem is I've had to educate him over the past 18 hours on how bogus this is and people have been reading news about hacking and cyber, I mean they don't know. The reports are...you know when someone goes wrong it's a glitch? There is no actual reporting. This is a glitch! You sent the link that I did put in the show notes which there are couple of excellent analyses about why this is absolutely not a shoe-in for North Korea

09:43 This is what I sent Don. I sent him a number of things and also, I gave him some advice which i'd like to share my advice with you to the former CIA, former ambassador to South Korea. Ironically! Very ironically this is Carolyn Balan she is from Chatham House in the UK She is an expert of sorts in the cyberness. I like what she has to say, especially a little point that i'm going to expand on regarding Sony. On the one hand you can make the argument that they used the same attack code that was used in 2013... ...that North Korea is blamed for and this was an attack on South Korea. Can you stop? Yeah sorry what's up

10:32 This is that you sure this isn't the girl who takes the flute and pushes it up, but what it sounds like no It's not band camp girl then band camp girl. No. This is not banned in a band camp girl Attack code is just right she may be that girl Disturbing hmm okay? Pack hood has just bought and sold quite regularly There's a whole underground cyber criminal Trade where you can buy and sell attack codes, so I'm not sure if that was initially why we accused North Korea, but I'm not sure that is actually such a valid argument. You can basically buy vulnerabilities you can buy even automated attack toolkits so all of this information can be purchased online in this underground black market So you can't really attribute it to North Korea There's a lot of espionage just carried out for corporate purposes Exactly! I mean there are always hacktivists for example

11:30 There are people who just engage in cyber attacks for fun because it's there and because we have so much information online that is not well protected. And so as a result you have people that are just engaging in this, and then its also very lucrative if you can steal secrets about the company. You're also seeing some extortion as well, so you could steal information about the company and then you could extort that company and say if you don't pay us this amount of money uh... then you all and we will release this information and sweet scene of this is extremely damaging extremely embarrassing person in he also just simply a pack to this to engage inside her tax uh... you know for fun or maybe it's improving even as sort of political purpose so you could imagine the situation where there is a disgruntled employee for example at sony are group of disgruntle employees um... who were therefore interested in getting back at the company

12:26 I watched your Twitch show with the film girl. By the way, if we could just turn... teach her how to shut up once in a while it wouldn't have been that bad of a show. She likes to talk. Oh no! But she's one of these people who just won't stop like, I got the microphone gonna keep talking and I'm not gonna do little diary-of-the-mouth girls shut up once in awhile And I was waiting for someone to say Leo came kind of close There have been 7,000 layoffs at Sony this year including the entire digital division. No one is looking at this very obvious point or fact that... It doesn't fit the narrative! Are you kidding me? The entire digital division This is like a whole room full of dudes named Ben

13:19 And somebody didn't... Yeah, I'm sure one or two of them were Earth-fied. Yes! Yeah exactly. This is so obviously something that's happened from the inside out and... Well this note I sent to be put in the show notes is an analysis of why it's probably not North Korean. I want to just mention a couple of items they pushed in here. One, the most important to me which was their number five item which is the attackers only latched on to the interviewer who did the movie after the media did The film was never mentioned by the GOP, which is something of peace. How ironic that's... It was never mentioned right at the start of the campaign it was only after a few people started speculating in the media

14:01 And then they, oh yeah that's good. That'll keep them off of our tracks but then at the beginning of this note I just want to make a few things everyone is eager to blame...I'm reading again blame Pentagon North Korea however it's unlikely one the broken English looks deliberately bad and doesn't exhibit any of the classic comprehension mistakes you actually expect to see in Konglish i.e., it reads like an English speaker pretending to be bad at writing English, and the fact that the code was written on a PC with Korean locale and language actually makes it less likely to be North Korea—not least because they don't speak traditional Korean in North Korea! They speak their own dialect, and traditional Korean is forbidden!" Yes, it is!

14:47 This is one of the key things that's made communication with North Korea difficult. And there's just point after in this memo, which was in the show notes, this there's point after point after point including a lot of little small points that indicate it by any stretch of the imagination as not North Korea. This is a government, a US government ploy to just once again blame North Korea for no apparent reason. Except of course you make this movie deal, which they didn't like the idea of the movie but... And here's what I told Don. I said, Don this is new! This is a shift

15:25 Because the American public really doesn't care. You can look at the polls, you can look at survey after survey... Nuclear? Whatever! Human rights? Bleh who cares?! But when YOU go after Seth Rogen and James Franco and our entertainment business everybody loses their collective shit!!! I said Don this needs to be countered it is perfect- here's my advice to him This is a big opportunity. Now that we have, and I see that you have a couple of clips from Aaron Burnett so we'll have to see. But Dan Rather was on, Carney was on Kevin Mitnik was on... Everyone's coming out to condemn North Korea So this is now- And people are paying attention! Hey man, we can't- Click, ruining Christmas man We cant go the movies on Christmas man It's an attack on free speech An attack on the First Amendment Everyone is going completely nuts

16:25 I said, Don it is very simple. This is what if you can through your channels make the following happen... It would be the biggest coup in political trade craft history Kim Jong-un has to come out and say hey why don't we premiere this movie here in Pyongyang? This could be funny And he should smoke a blunt with Seth Rogen. See if we can get that to happen... Oh, there you go right off the rails! I didn't say it-I didn't mention the blunt thing But you know and he took my advice He's listening. He's really listening They're not gonna do that ever but that is what should be happening It's so obvious this is so ludicrous Really Carl Bernstein

17:19 It's unbelievable the people who were on CNN. I have a couple clips, I don't know if you want to move to yours? Play what you have...I have another thesis all together. Okay let me uh...that's good. They finally figured out what was going on here with this. Ah okay well then i'll wrap my bits up real quick No no! I wanna hear your clips because they will just segue into mine and I guarantee it So on the show Dan Rather with Fareed Zakaria And Dan Rather's actually kind of good. He's like, hey man we don't actually have any proof yet but these guys are so serious about this. I'm sorry go ahead. I was going to say and by the way the way that stated that the

18:02 FBI, is now 99% certain and they're gonna come out with an announcement. The FBI no less? Yeah the FBI! But apparently last night they were talking about the White House Counterterrorism Council who are saying that although I've looked at their website I haven't seen any actual announcement anyway back to these this is a real news guy two Some of them! And a real, you know... and Fareed Zakaria. A real douchebag but he's- these are news guys. There is cyberwar works both ways. These guys need internet access to operate and there's probably a way to get back in. Good point yes let's just recap for a second. Fareed Zakaria clearly expert in TCP IP and border gateway protocol thinks there's probably a way to reverse this and get back in

18:49 idiot. What are our options in a counter cyber attack if you will, cyber attack on them? What are our options in the banking as I mentioned earlier. What are the options for showing it and you say Walmart and Target might not handle the DVDs let's put it to... This is another big narrative hey man we got to get this thing out here we have to get release it we should release it digitally free for everyone to see so we can show our American prowess because we won't have our entertainment industry threatened by no

19:32 By no one! Please, take American servicemen and women and your families. Take all of your flags down and scrub your social networks because ISIS might come to chop your head off but man when it comes to threatening our entertainment industry we will stop at nothing. They might not, but they might. But finding a way to get this movie out as one man's opinion is now imperative we have to find a way... It's it's the case of national security! We must get this movie out quickly! ...have this movie shown in the United States or would be blackmailed constantly by one regime after another all around the world Oh yeah. We can't have our movies being blackmailed by one regime over the other Which is what gets the point you made Free which is that

20:16 The deadly serious of this nature of this threat, the September 11th style attacks. That is deadly serious. Then you get back to the fact that they're doing all of this over a comedy that had a comedic assassination of the North Korean leader and people say that you're willing to risk war because you don't want that movie to come out? It doesn't matter whether the movie is silly or good or bad, or tasteless. The point is it's freedom of expression and you cannot be intimidated and as you very rightly pointed out what is the message ISIS is going to take from this? What is the message that they... Who knows what ISIS will do next? Man, we might have to shut down Homeland. Oh my God! Claim to be outraged by almost everything you know cartoon and this or that are they going to view this and say well this is very easy We just threaten these guys and okay And the message cannot be appeasement That's why I stay

21:05 calculated response based on hard evidence we have time to make a response but respond we have to. The United States cannot appeal. It's fantastic! Outrageous and let me ask you a question well bring it up later but this is an outrageous situation how the media has just Gone in nuts, but everyone is buying it. That's why it's so great We have damn rather as Dan fucking rather just because they've got I don't know if he's He's pretty old. I don't think he's having a lot of sex But here's another note from It's clear from his I'm divorcing I don't have said sex either It's clear from the hard-coded coded paths and passwords and the malware

21:51 apparently hard-coded passwords in the malware, which is right there as a giveaway. That whoever wrote it had extensive knowledge of Sony's internal architecture and access to key passwords! Of course this inside job it makes an inside job It's very embarrassing and your point was well made not understood on the twitch show you said The only thing that's real news here is that, and this by the way is right out of the Unabomber manifesto. This is what you get with technology okay? And this is just the beginning and a lot of this going on that is not talked about but now it's entertainment and we know the stars and now it's... whoa wait a minute so this is great in fact so great

22:33 that we had people coming out promoting their businesses. Super hacker Kevin Mitnick, live via satellite everybody! So Kevin help us understand the sophistication of this attack if hackers can cause this level of havoc what else can they do? Could they take out a power grid or damage our banking system Quite a stretch by the way from as a couple of emails and that movie trailer to all of us sudden to take out the power grid already been attacks on critical infrastructure where allegedly, the Chinese have Been able to get in and this is what I do for a living companies actually hire me Oh break into their networks and they go test their security. And

21:51 apparently hard-coded passwords in the malware, which is right there as a giveaway. That whoever wrote it had extensive knowledge of Sony's internal architecture and access to key passwords! Of course this inside job it makes an inside job It's very embarrassing and your point was well made not understood on the twitch show you said The only thing that's real news here is that, and this by the way is right out of the Unabomber manifesto. This is what you get with technology okay? And this is just the beginning and a lot of this going on that is not talked about but now it's entertainment and we know the stars and now it's... whoa wait a minute so this is great in fact so great

22:33 that we had people coming out promoting their businesses. Super hacker Kevin Mitnick, live via satellite everybody! So Kevin help us understand the sophistication of this attack if hackers can cause this level of havoc what else can they do? Could they take out a power grid or damage our banking system Quite a stretch by the way from as a couple of emails and that movie trailer to all of us sudden to take out the power grid already been attacks on critical infrastructure where allegedly, the Chinese have Been able to get in and this is what I do for a living companies actually hire me Oh break into their networks and they go test their security. And

23:15 and amazingly our success rate is about 100%. I mean, it's not hard to break into a major company these days especially one with Sony because their attack surface is so huge because they have so many systems to attack out on the internet. So it's really hard to defend against these attacks and until the security industry matures and comes up with better technologies for companies to use I think this is gonna happen again, and again. Thank you! And your check is in the mail They bring in Jay Carney former spokeshole for the administration who turned right around and became a CNN expert shill and he is not... He just

23:55 He's not sugarcoating anything. What can the US do, Jay? Well I don't think the US can do anything directly. I think President Obama and other leaders should speak out for uh...the first amendment should discourage actions First Amendment?! John! Our first amendment is under attack It's under attack! a bunch of hackers in North Korea and an illegitimate rogue regime in North Korea, basically deciding what Americans and viewers around the world can watch. Oh my goodness! Unlike the FCC? Yeah, the FCC doesn't do this same thing really... So now I want to definitely hand it to you but there's just a couple points I want to make

24:58 The decision to not show the movie was based on the email that said in broken English, don't ref. Do you remember 9-11? Well you might not want to go to the movie theater. Which was translated by all of the pundits as a 9-11 type attack which is the exact words they all used and 9-11 type attacks every time I heard it I said what are we going to do hijack an airplane crash into the theater If that, if the United States is going to respond to anything and if they really believe that this is North Korea. That is an act of war, that kind of language not a terrorist threat but of course in the president's not going to respond to that because it's bull crap. Well here's the problem they've dug themselves a hole yes which is they now have determined as North Korea so then so the real criminals here they've been irked

25:57 They're off the hook because you can't go back now and say, well it was an irritated... After all this too many people are in on it. No everyone's making money at the ratings or through the roof. Mittnick's got contracts. Yeah everybody is doing well so they have to essentially keep the blame on North Korea even though they All evidence doesn't point to them. All evidence points to them not being the culprit, and why would they be? What they have a...ohh, they have a cyber group! You know as well I do that somebody who's into computer hacking to the point where they can

26:34 real hacking and get into things without, you know... Hard-coded passwords again is like the giveaway. But the guys who can really do this sort of thing aren't the script kiddies they're kids who were like outcasts in school or they were troublesome They're the kind of people that if we are to believe anything about North Korea would probably not gotten this far in the system And they definitely would not be in the 3,000 man army of cyber attackers that supposedly North Korea has. They don't have anybody that can do anything." But it's almost like the announcement of my divorce, when you read the New York Times article Don said hey what is the media basing this on?

27:15 And of course he reads the paper version. I'm not sure he's not reading the online version and i pointed him to The Grey Lady where it says, American officials have concluded North Korea was centrally involved...I'm reading from The New York Times in the hacking of Sony Pictures computers even as the studio cancelled the release of a far-fetched comedy blah blah senior administration officials who would not speak on the record about the intelligence findings? I mean come on! Come on, no one is actually saying this. It's just bullshit! But the New York Times is happy to jump right in." Oh everybody's in on it. It's unbelievable to me I mean everybody that listens to this show must have been shaking their heads from the beginning because it has all the earmarks of a hoax but let's play Erin Burnett...I'll stop playing just a few of these clips This is Sony Erin Burnett activore she pushes this meme as hard as she can because she's been told too Yeah exactly

28:13 This is a story of incredible significance. This is, as many have said this is an act of war I picked the bad day to quit heroin once again. I just gotta keep get back on the horse It's American company now has been they have said that this was perpetrated by a foreign government by the government of North Korea. All right, so Mark let me ask you the question then directly when you hear this the threats that were made and there was a threat right? There was a written threat not just on Sony Pictures but to the American public of warning 9-11 style attacks if people went to see this movie on Christmas Day when it debuted is this an act of war Well, it is an act of war but an act of war is typically against by a nation state against another state. This is unusual because this is a war-like act if it was done actually by North Korea which all indications are that it was It's an act of war against the corporation Now Sony had to respond and they have to protect life health safety and property first But after that you know really they did ultimately end up having to cave into these demands

29:15 Is Sony running our Department of Homeland Security now? Do they have to protect life?" There's a couple of things that come up, come to mind immediately which is if that was an act of war which I don't see wasn't the...why didn't they call the attack on the target database and all those credit cards in active war. Why wasn't that an active or why was it attack of Home Depot? And what wasn't that an active war And that never came up in the conversation. And if you want to turn it around, why wasn't Stuxnet? Thank you! An act of war and it was designed to target the government. I mean, it was not like some company in Iran... No! It wasn't a complete... And it is an admitted act of war. Yeah. It's an actual attack on someone's critical infrastructure. Yeah that this is just an attack on the email system essentially But think about when you really think about it The entertainment business truly IS our critical infrastructure That's what we run on Everything is fueled by it

30:12 Everything. I could, i was so blown...I mean it's one- Carl Bernstein! Carl Bernstein? Now he is from Bernstein Woodward and Bernstein these are the guys who broke the Watergate story Right?! Yes He's getting on the air now And I want to read you what new With Don Lemon which that just blows my mind right there Ingrich tweeted about Sony's decision he said no one should kid themselves with the Sony collapse of America Wait did he just say Ingrich He didn't say that did he? I want to read to you what Newt Gingrich... Oh, Newt Gingrich. I'm sorry! Newt Gingrich yeah. Newt Gingrich in the house. I have this clip. The other newt gingrich quote is a classic. Gingrich has to stay in the media somehow about Sony's decision. He said no one should kid themselves with the sony collapse of America has lost its first cyber war this

31:03 This is a very, very dangerous precedent. So Carl, what message will ISIS or the Taliban or any other terror group take from this capitulation? It's obvious! You know, Newt Gingrich and I aren't known for being on the same page. the carl bernts and newt gingrich are now agreeing with each other over this must be true of his obvious hoax too often but we sure are here uh... this is terrible it also means that almost any loan wolf or terrorist some ways to inhibit scared the hell out of big businesses uh... and then we know

31:39 have capitulated to a force, you know we don't negotiate with kidnappers. This is similar kind of question what are we doing here by saying oh let's let these guys just come in and have their way I would hope that the White House with the entertainment industry figures out a way to somehow insist that this movie get out there It's incredible, baffling. Dumbfounding. Astounding! So I have a clip of...and this is on one of these CNN shows, it may have been Aaron. They bring on Buck Sexton. Now Buck Sexton is an ex-CIA guy who is one of the primary players on The Blaze.

32:31 He's the handler for Glenn Beck. And he comes on, and I got three clips one after the other because he... He comes on to straighten out the memes He's a fast talker. Okay, so you get a lot out of him and a lot of this stuff slips by his last time he slips in Mm-hmm. He had to do a couple things one is is he had the correct the notion that Sony's Japanese company? Whoops yeah, we had it even though That's kind of like how's it an active war there was a logical problem here Yeah active war Oh, we've got to retaliate. Oh wait a minute Sony is a Japanese company! Shhh... Ixnay on the Apanese J. Shouldn't the Japanese be bent out of shape at least? Yeah but they're not they're not so he drops in the meme and uses it repeatedly The meme On American Soil Ha! Wow Yes, I thought that was very slick Is that in this first clip here? It's actually in a couple of clips But let's play Buck Sexton

33:34 It's you know trying to straighten this out So so all the memes are lining up properly. This is well Is this buck Sexton one then cuz you're on a short time ago former Republican presidential candidate Newton Gingrich tweeted his opinion? This is Fox man. That's not CNN Yeah, it was fine. Okay. Let's make sense then I would be surprised if sex and came on CNN And you know the whole thing quote no one should kid themselves with the Sony collapse America has lost It's first cyber war this is a very very dangerous moment risk precedent He says buck Sexton is host of the Buck section show on glazed radio a former CIA officer and former NYPD Intelligence division specialist buck welcome good to have you here tonight. Thank you. This is big deal What does the FBI know about this at this point do you think it's bizarre?

34:22 and yet very serious at the same time. Look, the idea that this could be anyone other than North Korea wouldn't make any sense who would go through all this trouble? Who would have the capability? Who would care enough about this movie other than the North Korean government and its surrogates to actually engage in this so at this point whether the administration comes out or not and says it's official I know there have been sources saying that the FBI has essentially said that it is North Korea we basically know that it isn't Essentially, basically don't question authority and basically know that it is. We know in our hearts that its North Korea. May I remind everybody that we are a Gitmo nation living under the repealment of the Smith-Mund Act which forbade the American government from committing propaganda on the citizens of the United States and this is the result of that repeal

35:15 This is Sexton 2. I'm not sure we're going to get it though. I think right now they are waiting to see what happens." So far, we haven't heard a boo from the White House! You might expect when you think about after 9-11 and the concerns that there would be further threats... The message was always go live your life do what you're gonna do Go to the movies, go shopping Now this is uncharted territory in many ways

35:56 war attack, a terrorist act in many ways. You know we don't know this territory we don't know how to play out but it could happen again and again and again given this precedent Sony back down Wow wow wow wow this is great! And I do... It's important what i said at the opening of the show When you know that my own family and then people I know very well are emailing me saying man. I'm so sorry to hear about the divorce This is it works this stuff works It works it works, I love it so we took off buck Which is buck sex in three? Best this is the meme fest on me just rewinded there for a second this

36:35 This is good by the way, I like these. of millions of dollars if not more so there's some very serious issues that Sony is trying to deal with on top of whether they're even going to release this movie and quite honestly this is a national security issue it's a first amendment issue from the perspective of the American people we shouldn't be cowed by foreign dictators. Is it an overreaction because you know we're hearing there's no credible threats to any movie theaters in America based on this and I also wonder, we've heard so much about our invasion of privacy You know that the NSA is everywhere that they're watching everything They don't seem have any clue where this came from. They keep telling us that this was very sophisticated and the level of the attack on US soil was unprecedented but i'll say this The American people do not react well forget about Sony for second We don't react well too some tin pot

37:34 dictator anywhere in the world telling us what we can or cannot read, speak or do. But that's what we've done! I think there will be a movement among the American people to show some solidarity here and favor of the First Amendment so far they're saying they're not going release it digitally i'm not sure that's going to hold someone is gonna get a copy this will be distributed on the internet and there will be I think a movement you spread the film far and wide so the intent of this from North Korea, at least in part which was to keep it from getting seen. That's not going to work. The precedent that has been set for American corporations is you guys won! We backed out we pulled our movie out so YOU WON! Terrorists win! They would have won against Sony but I'd say between this and Cuba it's a good day for tyranny and bad day for freedom. Oh great day for tyranny John

38:17 I love the smell of tyranny in the morning. You know what the real bummer is? And i think someone placed a couple of calls because it stopped But everybody, they were spoiling the movie. Now we all know that it ends with Kim Jong-un's head exploding. That is a spoiler man! It is a spoiler. And that's not okay? No. They're not saying anymore... By the way talking about acts of war what would happen if France or Germany did a movie about killing Obama

38:57 Now, we've had movies that were done out of Hollywood where the president's under threat and then they have to... Hold on a second. It was never about the specific president in office? Correct but this is an inc... I think this is the movie itself even though our government supposedly green-lighted it Our government green-lit it There's yeah They have to call The White House and say hey man can you green light this really Yeah, which of course tells you how deep the government's involved in stuff like this. The government green-lighted it... It probably went good idea maybe we can get something going bingo boom shagalaga And it was about a specific individual who is a real person and it was a tasteless idea I mean to say the least

39:42 But of course the Japanese, and what's never mentioned in this is the racism between the Japanese and Koreans in general. Huge huge huge! The Japanese hate the Koreans they've burnt...they've attacked them their country numerous times and burnt their place to the ground. Yeah! The Koreans actually lost there written language and it had to be redeveloped from scratch which is why its so screwy looking Because of the Japanese. So them doing this movie, you know it's not really a big surprise but this is not an attack on the United States by any means. Let me ask you a question... It was not attacked by anybody! This is bullcrap now here's what I think would happen or what's happening Can I just can't one question before we get into the final analysis? Yeah

40:28 running the entire nuclear armament of South Korea, which we're doing about to hand it over to South Korea. To sell them billions of dollars worth of rockets pointed at Pyongyang is that anywhere near on the level of a movie about Kim Jong-un's head being blown up? I don't see any comparison whatsoever. Okay, just want to make sure i'm not crazy now let's go with...I'll do these last two clips here Here's the first one that kind of like okay? I see where Korea stands in all this here's a fox who Fox is all-in on this of course here's a fox item about Castro

41:07 And this is the Castro North Korea clip and this was kind of triggered some of my thinking. Then we gave up three spies, and supposedly might have another person that's coming but on top of that there are these incredible concessions that the Castro regime has always asked for and in return it's what? That the Red Cross is going to be able to go into Cuba and the UN is going to be able to go into Cuba This is the same UN that six months ago was told that the Castro regime has sent the largest shipment of illicit arms to North Korea and they did nothing. They didn't respond President Obama did respond by giving the Castro regime the largest concessions that any dictator has gotten in frankly a recent history I mean it just raises

41:54 Why is this? They're throwing in a little thing there. It's got nothing to do with this deal, but they throw it in anyway. Okay so then I get Fox hints at the truth about the Sony attack and this is what triggered my conclusion. it curious because there's so many people who are outraged in this country by the involvement of government in private companies, and the business of private companies and regulation all that. And yet I mean maybe we're going to hear more tomorrow when they make this FBI announcement that supposedly will definitely link it to North Korea but we haven't heard from the government look go about your lives don't let this cow you know? Also I heard two government officials were consulted on this movie and said yeah we do not have a problem

42:38 with the fact that Kim Jong-un's head blows up at the end of the movie, we're okay with it. Now they don't have too much to say about the whole thing. Look, this was a stupid and reckless idea by Sony how it gets marketed as a comedy I have no idea but It still is a blow against free speech as dumb as the movie might be And there- As you mentioned earlier There's now nothing to stop other attackers from targeting any movie or magazine Or newspaper article that displeases them and many many American companies are vulnerable Yeah...and they will You can bet on it after this Howard thank you very much Oh, okay. I think I know where you're going with that. Many American companies are vulnerable is the key word. Yes, I agree. Okay so what we have is they took this situation and the NSA was mentioned earlier which helps me come to the conclusion that this is an opportunity

43:28 to get the American corporations on board with this information sharing we've been insisting on. And then, and the company said last time you guys were involved you screwed us! We got- it burned us! We can't do business overseas and all this sort of thing because of the Snowden stuff so they're trying to make it... You know let's scare these companies to death which is what we can do the best about what could happen to YOU This is a foreign government and if we if you don't have us in bed with you If we don't have the u.s.. We can't then we can protect you we can't protect to protect You you're gonna be screwed like Sony got screwed by North Korea those evildoers Don't want that do ya so this is just it up a complete ploy from the beginning to the end For our intelligence services to get into the corporate, you know pants

44:19 Well, the bill is about to be signed by the president. It went through it all he has to do is sign it and I guess now that's all he has to do in this gambit This is a gambit! This is the definition of a gambit, I think Yes which also means that they can't reveal if when they catch the real guys who did this If they do They can never say that because now it makes the whole thing look like this is a giant scam Which it is Fall apart yeah Uh...I love this Because if you had, if we had been talking a couple years ago and I would have said hey man You know what? I think is gonna happen because I'm from the future and I told you this. He would've laughed in my face. You would've said no way Even I couldn't have come up with this scenario This is great

45:10 Do you think that there's one or two people who are really thought about this? Or is this crisis teams who come in... This isn't a crisis thing. Don't let a good crisis go to waste! But, who do you think is really driving this? I, at first... Is it Comey? I mean Comey could be... Comey from FBI? It may be. It's definitely NSA NSA, there's some involvement. But I think it started on its own. I don't think anyone planned this elaborate scheme. First it started out so then the media picked it up because it's a slow news time of year. The North Koreans are attacking because somebody put two and two together, somebody like us that doesn't but only at one level they don't

45:48 didn't go any deeper. Somebody in the media put two and two together, said oh there's this movie! And Kim Jong-un I think did express some dissatisfaction. Yes on December 9th the state television said that they deserve that about the Sony hack And they certainly deserve being hacked because it's a horrible movie they're putting out. That was state TV, which I think is unfortunate. So the first thing they hacked and nobody mentioned the movie then somebody mentions the movie and then somebody puts two and two together and all of a sudden it's the movie... Thus this is a post hoc argument one of those back ass arguments that's bullshit that would be put two and two together, thus it has to be North Korea. And then pretty soon it goes from there must be North Korea to it is North Korea and everybody knows it like a bug sexist as we all know it! We all know its North Korea and at some point

46:38 between the putting together and the thing maintaining itself as a news story, somebody came up with the bright idea to say yes it is North Korea and everybody's under attack. And all corporations are vulnerable get in bed with the NSA we've been begging you to do this forever You don't like us but we want you in bed and this is gonna happen to you Everybody buys it they'll sign up It's fantastic! It was really smartly done Yeah, but it wasn't a plan. It's just one of those crisis management things you got the crisis? How can we make out on this crisis?" And here is the only thing I will say first of all and I know dudes named Ben and dudettes named Ben who have worked on drone programs who left and were then asked by their superiors Oh hey man could you change the root password to this

47:34 Um, I'm not kidding you. This is true or at least it was...I believe it to be true this story that was related. Sounds like something that would happen The level of knowledge of how technology works in America and any business is so low, is so trusted too just so trusted really that what the big news for me It's a free-for-all. It's a big free for all and only the people, it's very simple very few things you have to do There is lots of stuff I email if someone breaks into my email could be potentially embarrassing I'm sure there is something in there

48:16 This is what all you have to do is just use encryption. It's very simple and oh yeah, it's not being made simple for you to do it but once you figure out that's really the main thing people have to do That's it! That's all that has to take place The powers-that-be do not want you using encryption Of course not You notice that in all this reporting No one mentions it No one even used the word encryption Even Kevin Mitnik is saying whoa we have to wait for more sophisticated tools to be developed Shut up, you dick! That guy's a dick. He's all in Well of course this is his livelihood I'd be all in too if I was on the wrong side of history

48:58 This is a scam of the highest order. You know, of all the things in that memo that will be on the show notes... Of all the things there's a long list of reasons why it's not North Korea. The hard-coded paths and passwords in the malware! Hard coded paths! They knew the structure of the whole network. And hard coded passwords That's not malware by any normal sense. I mean, you can't use it someplace else You can't take that code and then attack, you know Sears with it or to attack anybody Paramount Pictures? I didn't actually interact directly with people in the IT arena There was somebody whose name was I can't even remember his last name. I think his first name may have been Ben Oh a guy named Ben dude named Ben. That's right. That's how people think about their IT technology

49:55 Dude named Ben is sitting there. I don't know some dude named Ben came over and he did some stuff And it was a done with it fixed at all Sony they're dumb they They fired 5,000 people in another 2,000 in July no one is talking about this the entire digital division come on Come on, who's the chief technology officer at Sony or whoever is supposed to be in charge of that? I think this hack came after the second 2000. If you're working there and they just fired 5,000 people in a certain type of arena which would be the computer guys and your computer guy still working there... Yeah! The first thing you do—I don't know maybe I'm wrong about this but a lot of people take defensive measures. And copy files. You download everything you can.

50:46 And you should I'm doing that right now to Mickey's computer before the divorce. I'm gonna download it for you. I gotta download that whole bitch. I got a half a thing man, I gotta have the hard drive 3.0 will really pull stuff down fast. I need my bunny weaponization here under attack well talking about under attack so i've got a clip this is uh this is the level of do with the public has to deal with hold on can I just stop you for one second Isn't it great for you and I to be alive while this is happening, and to have a podcast? Oh yeah. And I think everyone who listens to this podcast... Yeah as a winner! Very much appreciates this probably more than anyone else because our audience is very technical not everybody but most of them or a lot of them let's say and they think... Less and less. ...this crap constantly and must drive him crazy and they would love- They have to cause we have good support

51:42 They love the fact that somebody is making it obvious. You know, we're saying the obvious! This is no... This is Occam's razor! Yes? Yeah this is very obvious and very easy to see I'm just flabbergasted at the level of people. For Don Lemon to sit around and, you know... One day he's talking about why didn't you bite Bill Cosby's dick when he was putting it in your mouth? Thanks, Don Lemon! Way to vilify the victim. And then the next day he's talking to Dan Rather and Carl Bernstein and... It's great. All right what do you have got more?

52:21 Well, actually let me skip it and we can maybe... You want to take a little break? ...play it afterwards. Well maybe then since we're- We are truly courageous in our reporting on this duo. Yeah, we are the courageous duo I'd like to thank you for your courage and say In the morning to you John C! Where the c stands for courage Dvorak Well, then I can't seem to find my sound effect tube. In the morning to you Adam Curry also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground subs in the water if there are indeed any subs in the water anymore feet in the air and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning everybody in the chat room noagendastream.com good see y'all they're depleting your nine points two million dollar value slowly over time. In the morning to our artistes Nick The Rat thank you very much for

53:09 Your work on the album art for episode 678, what album did you use in the newsletter John? It was some... I wrote it down somewhere. We should be crediting these people! I know I should, but i feel bad about this. It was a very old piece of art that I found in The Evergreen Box Okay, and I seem to fit the bill next time you do that just just put it in then put down below on the newsletter art Copyright. You know I should do that yes a little credit. It's nice Yeah, yeah, I feel like feel bad now should thanks for making me feel bad in the middle of this show anytime But we do have some people to thank and I feel better after I thank them, including Sir Oscar Nadal who came in with $936.72 with the commentary, karma works more details to come and a bigger donation! Uh-oh hold on a second...

53:59 So that's kind of interesting. I wonder what happened? Maybe he won the lottery and what an interesting number is there a clue? No, this is all he says. Is there a clue in the number or no let me just see if I have any emails from him...no hmm yeah I didn't see it. Strange! Well I'm not going to look the proverbial gift horse in his mouth Of course not. I'm very happy, thank you very much Sir Oscar Nadell. Alright. Let me give him some more karma since he's been asking for it. Yeah, really top it off. We've got karma. Right on. Roger Boots in Mechanicsville Iowa sent us $500 and I can find nothing from him? Was that PayPal?

54:47 Yes, it was. It was a PayPal donation and it came in and it didn't and it came into regular through the regular channel of people So he had about opportunity to send in a note that you could email this but we got nothing so thank you Roger I'm looking I don't see anything sir HMFIC in Vermont ahead mofo in charge Black Knight of the U.S Army? Yes, Black Knight of the US Army. Alright what does he say? He's a little note here seeing as how my last attempt at doing a drunk donation went about as well as Helen Keller playing musical chairs... Wow and now we know that uh he's an ease up there in age with this reference

55:31 Yes, I decided to wait till it's sober to write the note. I hope this magic number donation helps combat the drop in donations around the holidays Which there is a decided draw highly included in this donation as the back pay for my promotion from staff sergeant to Sergeant first-class on December 6th. Oh, congratulations! I have now joined the ranks of senior non-commissioned officers and wanted to include the NOAAGENNA nation in celebrating by donating the extra chunk a change to The Best Podcast In The Universe. Excellent What was trying to say in my last donation note was that you are both correct in the matter of the Department Of Defense telling servicemen to remove their military affiliation pictures etc from social media due to this supposed threat from Toyota truck commercial known as ISIS

56:14 is a huge... Did you get the note about this guy? Yeah, the plumber in Texas. Yeah, the plumber in Texas sells his car. Okay fine. Do you know the story? Of course I know the story! Tell us the story. The story is We have this plumber in Texas who has a Ford F-250. Actually, I have a little clip for you. You're starting with the story that is getting national attention. A truck belonging to a Texas City company pictured in a tweet that looks like it's coming from a terrorist organization and now the company is getting threats and is worried their employees safety Alright, so there's this picture and it shows his truck with his A1 whatever his plumbering name is on the side still even with the phone number even with the Texas tags you can kind of see that in the picture. And this now being said that this truck

57:08 somehow magically flew over or floated over to ISIS in the Middle East. And let me just say, this is the biggest bunch of bullcrap I've seen in a long time A.) No terrorist in the ISIS group will be caught dead driving a Ford! It's Toyota! This is clear. I don't know if Ford is trying to weasel in on the business? Is not happening The second thing Tweet Schmeat. This picture, as far as I- this could be from Abilene this picture. Th-th-this could be in Mexico where ISIS of course is... you know we know ISIS in Mexico. This is not some terrorist in the Middle East with a Ford F250! This is bullcrap. Yeah

57:55 And I'm not even sure the picture isn't photoshopped. I'm sure it is, looks like it yeah. Yeah but why this guy's truck has always been the question on my mind what are they trying to ruin this company? Could have been done by a competitor It's just someone tweeted that...it's just fun you know hey here's how it goes Hey man look at the North Koreans man they're taking all our media juice we gotta do something! We could have come up with it. I mean, anyway goes on or HRHM. FICO in charge? Yes It's a huge insult to us to suggest that we the US military aka America's throbbing cock of justice Should cower in fear because of the empty words of an enemy that does not have the means to follow through To tell those that have deployed engaged and destroyed the enemy in close combat is why he doesn't want his name revealed

58:52 Sergeant, get in here! The power and fear because of the empty words of an enemy that does not have the means to follow through. To tell those that have deployed engaged and destroyed the enemy in close combat overseas that they should now be afraid on their own soil is preposterous! Exactly The reaction to this from combat vets has been pretty solid. Let him come! When you allow yourself to be terrorized, the terrorists win. Marika! Can he get a shot? He's got a birthday call out and he's got a birthday coming up we do have it in the book I think he means Murica not Marie What did i say? Marika. I like marie better There is indeed for rescue mission when the world is threatened the world needs help It calls on America

59:39 That's the story. I didn't know that.

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1:04:46 EDM holiday songs, electronic dance music holiday songs. I didn't think he was a house guy! Oh yeah! Yeah he used to- He's a radio guy... I'm learning about the Grand Duke. Yeah he used to work in Boston. He was spinning da vinyls man vinyl real vinyl anyway he thinks about dubstep some gum do Thank you very much David Foley, Sir Dick Grand Duke, DeckTheHouseMusic.com and thank everybody else our executive producers and associate executive producers for helping us with show 679er we are doing the best to give you all the value that you want to derive from it your credits are what you get in return of course those are real if anyone brings him into question we will gladly vouch for you Devorak.org slash N A

1:05:37 And of course, always do we need our legion to go out and propagate the formula. Our formula is this... We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Hey citizen! Shut up! Ray! Shut up! Sleep! Ay-yay-yah There we go That's a good time to be alive. A good time to be alive, I say! Well so i have this clip that I saved which is from NCIS. I've been getting enough of these crazy clips and this is just the power grid attack clip from last show it was just on the other night. That's actually NCIS LA. From CBug at the time of break-in only one file was downloaded onto a thumb drive

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1:05:37 And of course, always do we need our legion to go out and propagate the formula. Our formula is this... We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Hey citizen! Shut up! Ray! Shut up! Sleep! Ay-yay-yah There we go That's a good time to be alive. A good time to be alive, I say! Well so i have this clip that I saved which is from NCIS. I've been getting enough of these crazy clips and this is just the power grid attack clip from last show it was just on the other night. That's actually NCIS LA. From CBug at the time of break-in only one file was downloaded onto a thumb drive

1:06:32 860 kilobytes that's not that much. But it's enough. I'll talk to Calvin and Sam. I managed to ID the malware that thieves took. It affects something called PLCs, programmable logic controllers They're used in industrial computer systems to control automation What kind of industrial systems? Well the specific PLCs that this malware targets are only found in US electric power plants Guys This bug could crash the entire nation's grid for weeks No power no communications...no heat

1:07:11 No, Netflix is what they should have said no heat. You know Netflix What netflix? They're gonna be honest about it oh my gosh This is assuming of course that the entire country has the exact same Lash up which is not the case of course no no It's like you know radio stations being all the same They're not you brought up Cuba in that related to Sony clip Of course I watched the the State Department briefing from yesterday. I do have to say, I'm impressed with Jen Psaki! I really am this girl she has all these papers and she has little tabs and when someone says oh it's gonna be you know Cuba but they can easily go to Sony they can go to any topic ISIS, ISIL...she has different ones for ISIS or ISIL

1:08:06 And she whips that open and starts talking. She must have so much going on in her head! I'm impressed, I have to say. I can't...I am not impressed necessarily but i will say that she is one of the slickest that I've seen in that position Very very slick extremely slick And she makes Marie look stupid like an amateur Although Marie's trying to get her job as well Yeah we know that And so I watched the entire briefing. I've watched report after report after report, and I think what happens even Matt didn't bring it up. Matt Lee, Matthew Lee from AP, our guy are the savior of journalism

1:08:53 Because I think what happens is, particularly journalists... They hear this. We're going to open the gates we're going to change something with Cuba and immediately they are all thinking about Bay of Pigs and Castro but no one really looked at besides the so-called shipment to North Korea What happened in July? It was just July that the following took place, and I went back to the clip bin. And I pulled out a 25-second clip which has as far as I know has not been brought up in any relation to the new

1:09:35 The new deal we are trying to put together with Cuba. Putin and Raul Castro will rubber stamp an unprecedented agreement Moscow is writing off 90% of Cuba's debt to the USSR that's 32 billion dollars astronomical money for a poor country like Cuba the remaining 10 percent will be reinvested into social infrastructure projects on Cuba The intrigue is what Havana will offer in return speculation takes in everything from major oil No one is mentioning the 34 billion dollar gift from Putin. 34 billion dollars! And military bases and... Why bother even bringing it up? We have a longish email from Cuban producer who was born in Cuba

1:10:30 I lived in Havana for eight years. Did you want to... Yeah, I want you to read it in segments as you see fit. I think it's probably a good idea. A little background is born in Cuba lived in Havana for eight years he's in his mid-20s now came over to the US with his family through the Cuban lottery visa program but since then he's gone back a couple of times to visit family He says whatever is motivating the U.S and Cuba to do this now I'll leave up to you and John but what I can talk about is my experience living in Cuba for short time my family's history and his visits Anywhere you look when walking down the streets of Havana, you see people who've been beaten into submission. The police wear military uniforms carry assault rifles say anything bad about the government anywhere but in your own home and privately You will get a knock on the door and the butt of a rifle across your face or worse be imprisoned several family members have had their arms broken because they spoke ill of the government

1:11:22 All over the country you find propaganda spewing lies about the US, demonizing Americans. Whatever happens because of the actions Obama has now taken will only increase the propaganda. Billboards telling the Cuban people they've won over the U.S., or that the U.S. has been bent under their will. The best thing for the Cuban people is for government officials who run the country to be gone while they're still there and power any aid that goes to that country every new business that opens up will only line their pockets leave the people starving And then it goes into more details about how bad it is. And I'm gonna finish it up here... The prostitution, this of course key, we're always interested. Prostitution is abundant and up in your face! I don't see how this is a bad thing. The one club and the one bar I went to were filled with almost 90% hookers with pimps waiting outside

1:12:15 All young girls who need the money as jobs in Cuba can hardly pay for anything. The tourists in these clubs were mostly old foreign men taking advantage of the situation." Sounds like Thailand Just a few notes here, the thought of more tourism just frightens me More money for higher ups and government and more citizens oppressed In the morning! Well, let's play my Cuba clip. I got—this one says Kudna Exchange Anomaly, which I think is kind of interesting. The part is the freeing of Cuba of a U.S. spy of Cuban nationality who had been held in Cuba for the last two decades or so, says the Obama administration. This was one of the highest-ranking intelligence assets the United States had

1:13:02 That is, as much as we know about this person will presumably stay anonymous for a long time possibly forever. Alan Gross his release that was really the spark that got things going Yeah it's pretty cool don't talk about the spy yeah nobody mentions the spy and then if... We don't even know the spies name Eric who looked at this is in fact he saw it mentioned by the government plural there may be two spies possible No, but in whatever the case is they can't mention his name. They'll never mention his name and why was he... Why now would be the question I'd ask which I believe was answered by The Oil. Yeah! That $34 billion gift. We don't care about Cuba we just want to get that oil. Yep quick before Putin gets back? Yeah before Putin gets back. They like doing this you know the guys hosting the Winter Olympics

1:13:52 Let's go screw with Ukraine. We can do it right now. He's not paying attention this is perfect we can do it right now They like doing this How cool is that one? That's cute, let's Dave the douche made good I'd love it that's great It's using the cocaine riff, and inserting Ukraine. How clever! So I've got one clip of Obama discussing this he came out with a long obviously a long boring exposition on bringing Cuba back by the way i want to mention my take on this...I've always felt this Cuban embargo is crap

1:14:44 And I think by isolating a country like this, it just makes matters worse. But and I've always felt this way since it began. It should have ended like five years after they started in the 60's. Right? But anyway so here's Obama...I just took a little bit of this thing to kind of give us a feeling for what Obama is talking about when he brings it up. At a time when we are focused on threats from Al Qaeda to ISIL A nation that meets our conditions and renounces the use of terrorism should not face this sanction. Third, we are taking steps to increase travel commerce and the flow of information to and from Cuba. This is fundamentally about freedom and openness and also expresses my belief in the power people-to-people engagement with the changes I'm announcing today it will be easier for Americans to travel to Cuba

1:15:37 and Americans will be able to use American credit and debit cards on the island. Nobody represents America's values better than the American people, and I believe this contact will ultimately do more to empower the Cuban people." Okay there is some language in there that i think it quite telling we are connecting our payment systems to Cuba before anybody else can connect their payment systems That's a big deal! I think that's the biggest part of the whole deal Well, I think there's a number of things. I think that's one item. I think it is very important. I think another item is the oil and I think this third item is the carping that has to be going on in the background because the Canadians have been going back and forth and back and forth to Cuba and they're buying up the place. Oh really?

1:16:22 Oh, they've been...this has been going on for I don't know how many years. Some Canadian listener could tell me but they've been going back and forth and back and forth in their buying up the choice land on the beaches for hotels doing all this stuff that we should be doing or at least Clinton should be doing to get some prime real estate and we're falling way behind it. We're gonna be playing catch-up when we finally start and that's one of the biggest elements is the Canadians I didn't know about this. That is... Yes, in fact a lot of people who like to go to Cuba they go through Toronto and don't go through Mexico so much because there are better flights out of Toronto to Cuba and I could go for example, I could always go because as a journalist you can get a visa to go to Cuba but they'll tear up the paperwork going both ways if we don't want it on your passport as sneaking dictation. Well, I'm gonna stick with oil and with

1:17:15 the encroachment by Russia and Putin visiting there just a few months ago, setting everything up. $34 billion! That's more than Ukraine has received from the IMF and US and EU combined. That's big money in exchange for... Well we're going to screw them out of it. Well hello? So President Vladimir Putin every month I guess he does a podcast Not like a President Obama's podcast, you know the three four minute hi everybody. Here's what's going on He does a three-hour live show this is one of the shows where Ed Snowden once Allegedly called in which was video pre tape video but okay You remember these these shows that he does yeah and I have a transcript

1:18:10 I have two pieces. I think it's important, even though it's tough to listen to the translator and stuff in real time... Since no one else does it except RT, I guess, I think it's important just play two clips that were pertinent And it is a very free-form kind of discussion The BBC's John Simpson stood up and asked this whole long, he had a really long question but ultimately says I'll just play his question not Putin's answer. Western countries almost universally now believe that there is a new Cold War and you frankly have decided to create that

1:18:55 We see almost daily Russian aircraft taking sometimes quite dangerous maneuvers towards Western airspace. That must be done on your orders, you're the Commander-in-Chief it must have been your orders that sent Russian troops into the territory of a sovereign country Crimea first and then whatever it is thats going on in Eastern Ukraine The guy just goes on and on and to me this was scripted. This question. Yeah sure, you can play the another parliament clip... And it would fit right in! It's kind of funny they have the audience the live studio audience mainly journalists and they all have signs with their broadcast affiliation on them and France 24

1:19:51 Has a... their sign is with an Eiffel Tower. Just holding up the Eiffel Tower, so I guess the president can say oh yeah so there's the French guy he'll recognize the the Eiffel tower sign So this sounded very scripted to me. The answer was long and boring and not very good Here is something I did like the bear analogy of course everyone talks about Russia being the bear and President Putin again, it's a little tough listening to the translator But I think if you really just set your mind to it for a minute and a half here It'll be worth listening to his whole bear scenario which kind of wraps up his thinking in one

1:20:29 nice bundle I think. You know, speaking in front of the Valdai club, I quoted an example and I mentioned the bear who guards his forests you know the thing is that if we go on with such analogies sometimes this thing even comes to my mind is that probably our bear should just relax and sit quietly, and just eat honey. Okay are you able to follow it now? Are you into it? Yeah barely but go on! Yes the bear analogy says we just want the bear to sit quietly and eat its honey instead of hunting animals maybe then they will leave the bear in peace but no they will not

1:21:21 What they're trying to do is to chain the bear. And when they manage to chain the bear, they will just take out his form, fence and clothes. This is how nuclear deterrence is working at the moment. We could even hear that from officials saying that it's not just that Siberia belongs to Russia but how can they say that it's unjust? I can't listen to it anymore. You gotta listen to it yourself in the show, no this is too much. What was he saying about Mexico? He says Siberia belongs to Russia like Texas belongs to the USA and then he says look you took Texas back from Mexico rightly so! So he brings his whole analogy and keeps going about the bear, the bear, the bear...

1:22:19 And, you know, the bear cannot declaw the bear. But the most important... John Maassen You know this sort of...this is not as good as our material. David Strock No. The most important question... John Maassen And by the way what does anybody bring up to sovereign? Oh, a sovereign country. What is our rolling into Iraq that's not a foreign army going into a sovereign country or... David Strock Yeah but we've been invited. John Maassen ...coming out crap out of Libya? David Strock We've been invited! Even invited. Oh, you didn't get the memo? No. I didn't get the memo. Well we were invited... Iraq we have a deal an MOU we're allowed to help them to send in our advisors and our consultants and our trainers

1:23:02 Yeah, don't you remember we had like the new guy come in and the old guy went out And then we got to go ahead of a guy they hung yeah that but just recently the other guy there and they kicked him out too Yeah, they get guys I love kick guys up so if they don't go along with our program. That's it's fine You have one piece of entertaining Vladimir Putin his girlfriend was in the audience oh Oh my god Smoking hot, huh? She looks 20. She looks 25 It's probably well she must be if she looks hot and the president was asked about his love life. Mr President do you have any time for your personal life? Well, please my cordial welcome to the friends This is shot of her a friend of mine from Europe You know

1:23:56 Do you have love? What do you mean, ask to... Do you love someone? Yes I do. And is there anyone who doesn't love you? Yes I have people who loves me but everything is just fine please don't worry and I am very good relations with your meal friendly relations, we see each other regularly. But of course with my children everything is fine as well even though I do not see them as often as i would like. I would describe her look she was born in 83. I would describe her look as USC University Southern California cheerleader

1:24:41 Is that what she is? No, but that's what she looks like. Yeah exactly! She has got the Southern California cheerleaders. She looks like one of those women there are millions of them down there and they all look kind of like this. Very pretty. I'm telling you... What's her name Alina Kabeva? Is that her name? Alina Kabeva. She was born Alina Meritovna Kabeva. She is a gymnast She's a gymnast, is she not? Yeah or something. Oh my goodness! She's a contortionist! Ugh you know I dated a contortionist once until she broke it off. Hey now everybody! Where's my in the morning? I can't get an in the morning. That's part of that's part of the crashed system here. Trying to get you the in the morning

1:25:32 Yeah, she is a contortionist. There's a good picture of her on Gym Stars magazine all bent. Her head is touching the back of her legs. I saw that once in a San Diego strip bar. Alrighty then! So if you want the entire translation of his show, it's in the show notes at 679-dot-noahjennthenotes dot com And I don't think i had much more on, let me see what else under the F Russia. I'm looking at this website that's showing this woman daily entertainment news and the first comment she is with another Adolf Hitler! Oh of course This time Adolf Putin is his name killing and hurting people that are trying to live and work he sends in his

1:26:25 bullies, the ugliest men to hurt innocent people. I really can't wait when they hang him." Oh yes that'll be great his devil henchmen. I'm getting emails from many people in the EU they're very worried about the obvious simultaneous collapse of oil and the ruble And Russians travel, you know. They travel a lot and they certainly come to the United States but they also like to travel in the EU and a lot of them are not gonna be able to travel this year...and a lot of... John Maass No, no, now with the ruble collapse. Adam Back And the way it worked or the way I understand it most Russians don't have a mortgage. I think they own their homes because when Russia, when the former Soviet Union came back

1:27:15 Somehow everyone just had their shit and they owned it, and didn't owe any money. We'll have to get some verification of that thesis. That's what I've read...I don't know. I haven't looked into it for full-on analysis but they do have a lot of disposable income And a lot of that, of course is the Euro round robin. They make money from Germany and from other European countries, EU with the gas and oil, of course, and then they circulate that back into the economy in the EU. Especially when the president signs off on the omnibus bill which includes all these other great things we've been talking about but also the derivatives

1:27:59 security for the American banks, I think you're going to see in particular Deutsche Bank will be good or not depending on where they are operating. But you're gonna see some problems in Europe." Howard Glassman Yeah? And this is a shocker to you? David Morgan No no no...not at all. I'm just pointing out the obvious Yeah, of course. That's exactly what we want! Yeah fuck the EU! That's what people don't understand this is not about Russia... Well it's partly about Russia but- Well when you think about it John, What truly is currency that we don't like? Oh yeah, we don't like the EU well I mean the euro but we don't like to

1:28:45 We don't also, and the up-and-coming BRIC currency or the SRDs or any of these we don't like any this stuff because it ruins our ability to print money. There's yes all the sudden that we are The money. Yes, we are the money! We're the reserve currency. In January 2015 the Eurasian Economic Union comes into effect and I believe that may have something to do with this attack on the ruble

1:29:22 This would bring together... yeah, this will bring together. Let me see it's the EAU It's a political and economic union five member states we have Belarus Kazakhstan Russia of course Kyrgyzstan and Is that five? Yes And I believe that I'm not sure how it works And I've only really just learned about this Eurasian Economic Union I didn't really know I didn't get any memo But I think that is of importance, that the ruble needs to be as low as possible when this thing kicks off. Does that make any sense to you? No. You have to explain why it has to be as low as possible when this thing kicks off Because its an economic union and if they're going... maybe they're going to do.... let me see.. I have a article here, let me read through this for a second

1:30:18 I think from our perspective, it would be better...we'd be better. We are schemers would be better off if the ruble was highest when it kicked off and then sink at then because then it would hurt the organization having a rule below may have the opposite effect because is not gonna stay low forever. No. If you look at the charts of your chartist, his story in certainly when comes to financials looking at the collapse of oil prices, was that... did that come just at the same time as the 2008 Great Recession? No. Oil prices went up it's very recent this collapse of oil prices I mean that's why it was so funny about because its so recent and just so quick What do you think?

1:31:09 I think it's...I don't know. I've been thinking about it, and I just haven't come up with a thesis. He's sitting around on a Wednesday night before the show thinking, hmmm what can I do? What is the deal with this oil collapse because it has profound impact on all sorts of things and I think its repeat of what we saw couple times now especially in 70s when the oil prices collapsed And resulted in putting out of business all the shale oil people. Well, that's definitely going to happen. It's going to put a whole bunch of people out of business because they need oil to be 60-80... I know they typically need it over $80 but some of these crazy schemes you need 100 dollar oil and make it work

1:31:54 And this is not gonna, so you're not gonna be pumping oil out of the ground. It's gonna cost you 100 bucks to pump it out and you can sell it for 40 or 50 I believe the oil price is going down to 40 personally. Really? Yeah, that's traditional, a traditional price It's a tradition. It's... Dr. Kahneman It's a tradition and it'll give everybody, and you know the American stock market is getting flaky about this because I don't know but in fact it will stimulate the economy because people have more disposable income if they don't drop 75 bucks on their tank every time they go to the gas station or 100. Dr. Justin Marchegiani We have here in Texas of course everything's much cheaper here certainly taxation etc., we are down $2.11 I saw

1:32:39 That's for right. What's the regular? Premium is it's got to be 230 still think that's a deal We our best premium is about 280 which is still good very good all there's good It was five when I left California almost five if not just over five four premium, so it wasn't genuine But yeah, it's Los Angeles gypsville then of course we against Gypsies when I say that by the way absolutely not Then of course we had this fantastic attack on chocolate in Australia. This was really a phenomenal event, this terrorist and moreover because we have such a large contingent of producers in Australia who were really feeding on sending reports and scouring the news trying to come up with angles etc

1:33:43 There had of course not recently, but a year earlier there was...there had been a drill in the exact same location Martin's Place for this exact scenario. Very convenient right across the way from the ABC studios where The Morning Show is presented live. Very very funny things that took place. Let me see I have...this is Ali... are you still with me, John? Yeah. Okay I didn't know this is Ali Soufan he comes on to I guess it was the CNN's

1:34:25 Then he is an ex-FBI counterintelligence guy. I think it was on the National Counterintelligence Council, and he has a book out of course all the reason to bring him in but even he really couldn't make heads or tails of what was going on with this guy All the things that are wrong including including the flag business Yeah That's interesting What? A person who supposedly planned all this and he gets there and he said, oh I got the wrong flag. Something here doesn't make sense. Crap! I got the wrong flag? It gives us at least an insight about that individual's mentality What are you thinking about his mentality now? Well it seems like he is all over the place He is a criminal trying to cover up his crime using religion

1:35:12 He seems under a lot of pressure from the court. He allegedly was involved in about dozens, at least I forget the exact number, of sexual assaults and then possibly killing his wife so he want to go down as a hero not that a thug and not as a criminal It seems to me that there's something fishy about the individual. The investigation is still early on you know, very anxious to see what the Australian police are going to find out about the motivation and why he did that. But the flag that he had with him is basically a black flag that has a shahada on it – there's no God but God and Muhammad is his prophet – and that flag in black is basically the original flag of Al-Qaeda under Osama bin Laden. It is! Now with al-Nusra they added Jabhat al-Nusra underneath

1:36:01 It's the same one with Jabhat al-Nusra, the Nusra Front underneath it. And that indicates it is Al Qaeda affiliated organization in Syria The ISIS flag is a little bit different. It is black and has the same terminology but it has that circle at the bottom And it's a little bit different than Al Qaeda flag. It indicates the same narrative, both of them indicate the narrative of Osama Bin Laden, both of them indicate the narrative of bin Ladenism if you want to call it but depends which flag you have it indicates who is your leader Baghdadi or Zawahiri

1:36:38 It's kind of interesting how they've tried a couple things here in Australia. They had the term Ben Laden ism That's good, isn't it? Yeah in there I don't think this guy was not really prepared I guess to be just came out and said all the things that he knew, that he really knows about. A lot of our producers pointed out that simultaneously with this terrorist attack... The TV studios I saw in the chat rooms Channel 7 also a CNN affiliate and CNN was all over this live continuously

1:37:18 A lot of people are saying, our producers have been sending me links about the budget. The midterm budget being presented at the exact same moment which was 10 billion Australian dollars over budget which is a apparently was not expected and was worth covering up if this had anything to do with it and this and the report that Australia has now committed I had already committed before this happened, I presume 1.3 billion Australian dollars to fight Islamic State terror in Iraq

1:37:54 And of course you need buy-in from the public. We tried the actors who were running around pretending that they were going to behead people, that didn't work very well... remember that? Yeah! The guy was an actor he was an actual actor so that didn't work and now the headlines are we are no longer innocent we are now a part of this So I there's a screwy event now Mike Morrell was on these I think that was in the CBS morning show Mike Morell of course former CIA director He came on, was asked to comment on this. We're going to see this kind of terrorism around the world and we are going to see it here Norah. We are gonna see this kind of attack here and we need to be prepared for that you know it shouldn't surprise people when this happens here sometime over the next year or so guaranteed. Guaranteed! Guaranteed he says

1:38:55 It's the Mike Moro. This is like the guarantee that we picked up I was in 2008, I gotta get that clip. I have it! Hold on a second...it was uh what do we call it again? It was uh... Feinstein grilling people about having a massive 9-11 like event within the next six months Now, didn't I save that as a... Yeah you played it about a month or two ago. Right so i'm trying to think did I? It'd be Feinstein and it would be... yeah hold on second but one... Attack the homeland if Homeland might be one of the keywords um wouldn't it be I think would be Feinstein I think yeah Feinstein is one of her committees. Well I've uh I've done a great job good work! Yeah thank you're welcome I don't know why I don't know how I'm sorry I don't know how I messed that up

1:39:48 Anyway, she asked all these hot shots. You know they headed us to head of that would there be a terrorist attack like 9-11 in the next six months and every one of them yes it Absolutely Yes Well, it's coming still waiting and that was how long ago? I think that was in 2008 Wow so now you know is about what six years ago And they were still waiting Unless you want to call these bullcrap events, you know something but they're not. Well I will store this Mike Morrell clip right next her so we can't play either one in the future that'll be great and sorry about that. Phillip Mudd? Phillip Mudd... Why do i know his name? Phillip Mudd! I think I had a Philip Mudd clip. I have a Philip Mudd clip. He's been floating around for some reason let me look him up. He must be a former CIA guy

1:40:42 of course. program, the pundit program. So they rolled him out for this? I remember sitting at the table at the agency we used to do nightly threat briefings with Director Ted at the CIA director in 2002 2003 and i remember one thing happening that i never anticipated. I thought we were facing the architects of 9-1-1 then we started to see attacks in Saudi Arabia attacks in East Africa attacks in Madrid attacks in London and I started thinking we're not only

1:41:17 only facing Al Qaeda, we were facing affiliated organizations across Africa into the Philippines and to London. And then something happened in about 2008 Anderson. We started to see in Minneapolis Minnesota, in New York across this country we started seeing individuals you remember on the West Coast a kid who was thinking about attacking the Christmas tree ceremony. We're seeing the genesis of a revolutionary movement that is not connected to a core group, and if you want to try to find those guys have a good time because I don't know how you do." Have a good time! Unfindable. Philip Mudd was the guy that was cited specifically by these chief...uh..the Chief of Staff

1:41:58 of Colin Powell. Oh, right! Right, right, right... He called Tenet a liar? He lied directly to Colin Powell and Mudd was in that same group?! Yeah!! And he was sickened by mud. He says he's tired of him good guy It's a very funny clip Good guys this mud guy had various much guys are you gonna eat stooge? What everybody is a stooge yeah, I saw on ABC Pete Stooges on ABC ABC World News tonight They are now using radio free Europe Radio Liberty footage

1:42:36 They're literally taking the propaganda arm of America, taking their footage and putting it on the domestic news. Yeah. With a chyron! Illegal. RFE- no it's not illegal. It used to be. It used to be. RFERL this is the... in fact if you look at I've saved this page hold on a second about Cuba I think it was maybe it was about Cuba let me see There was... no, I'm sorry it was about Ukraine. That's what it was this called Who are Ukraine's new foreign-born ministers? So just to give you the idea of what's going on here This is Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty which I think many people are confused

1:43:24 It's very unclear that this is a United States State Department sponsored, paid for operation. I believe millennials think oh this must be like the radical guys you know they're fighting for freedom press freedom radio free Europe free Europe free liberty And they do this rundown. They say three foreigners, Natalie Jerezko, Alvarez Abramovicius and Alexander Kvitsevili were approved as ministers by Ukraine's parliament on December 2nd So these are the people that received citizenship overnight But they don't say that in their article They just say hey you know this is who they are This is why they're qualified This is why they're great for the country

1:44:09 Whereas we look at this news and go, holy crap. We are literally putting our people from the former State Department people into the government but that's not how this propaganda works It's it's fascinating great a great time to be alive Here's Anderson Pooper. This is my last before we leave mud I was gonna go back to mud, but okay good because I have I think I'm gonna send you the link I want to send it on Skype by your side could I show email? You can do it on Skype Okay, I'll sent on Skype this is a mud in 2013 On the Colbert Show showing apparently didn't never heard of The Colbert Show so this makes for nothing But awkward humor and the guys are just acting like a dick

1:44:50 But did you send it to me yet? No not yet. I'm gonna do that now You want me to play that is that we know what's the player, but see what it isn't right, but I bless your clip first Oh okay, but send me that link already. I'm trying to get to this This is his the guys name is Yes received that wasn't loud at all oh I didn't hear it Well might as well just go straight into this It's I think it's playing It's a seven minute clip you want to just see how long it lasts until we're bored. Yeah That means both of his shoes are phones, please welcome Philip Mudd Honey and apparently muds not having any of it because mud didn't know how the hell the show works yeah probably would what an idiot

1:45:44 Alright, Philip Mudd. 25 years in the intelligence world Deputy Director of the CIA's Counterterrorist Center from 2003 to 2005 Then became the FBI Senior Intelligence Advisor and you've got a new book here called Take Down Inside The Hunt For Al-Qaeda Right Do we really take down al Qaeda or should it be called spread out inside the scattering of Al-Qaeda. No, I think if you looked at the adversary we faced 12 years ago it bears no resemblance to what we see today The problem is that we don't face an al Qaeda group today We face the remnants of a revolution A revolution... Oh ffff alright But i'll skim it for later I don't think its

1:46:28 I'll take a look at it later and see if i can get a clip out of it. Apparently he just can't get that this is a comedy show He doesn't see the irony All right, now we're going to this guy Majid Navas Majid Navas... actually put his wiki page in the show notes here He's a liberal democrat parliamentary candidate for Hampstead-Kilburn, Brit a founder of Krillium, counter-extremism think tank. Himself a former member of the Islamist revolutionary group Hizbut Tahrir. He's the guy... he's a go to guy you know? He came over to the good side of history

1:47:14 And breezy enough for Anderson Pooper to ask him all about this terror attack in Australia. And what should be done about it and what is going on here? And he has a new term. Law enforcement has been saying that this type of lone wolf attack is the ones they're most concerned with Do you believe its mistake to call this guy a lone wolf Yes, I think it is a mistake. I would use the term self-starter but the reason I think Lone Wolf doesn't... A self starter? What's he, a salesman? He's gonna mention this a couple of times! It was a self starter! Lone Wolf is out?! Self-starter is a more appropriate term. But the reason I think... A self starter? Yes, and I think it doesn't necessarily describe the phenomenon correctly to use the term lone wolf What we saw was a metastasization of the phenomenon And our worst nightmares came true in ISIL emerged Because what were really dealing with here Is a fundamental inspiration For Muslims to sympathize with the idea Of creating or resurrecting this so called caliphate And instituting theocracy In Muslim majority countries

1:48:16 and calling it a caliphate is something we have to make very unpopular, and that's a challenge at the moment as things stand. And you've always said it's not enough for Muslims to simply say well look I don't believe in beheading hostages... You say people have to go farther than that? If we expect non-Muslims to speak out against anti Muslim bigotry, as was evidenced in this I'll Ride With You hashtag campaign on Twitter how many times do we see Muslims starting such hashtags uh... to say actually we condemn islamist and jihadist terrorism instead what we find is many of my co-religionists say I've got nothing to do with this why should I condemn it? It's not in my name but if we have that expectation on non muslims, to condemn things such as racism to condemn things such as anti-muslim hate likewise we have to step up to our own responsibilities. This hot shaker his former attorney has said that this is a one off random individual not acting in concert with anyone Do you think its dangerous just kind of saying okay well this is a one off thing

1:49:11 Absolutely, it's very dangerous. I mean look we have the school shootings in America as a phenomenon and again they aren't one-off but there is a difference here and the difference is that in the case of Islamist inspired self starters... Self starters? Islamists inspired self starters! Why do you think he's pushing this meme this self starter meme As opposed to lone wolf Well, lone wolf hasn't really worked I guess. It's just no one is afraid of the lone wolf. Yeah but self-starter is not going to work if the lone wolf didn't work because self starter... it sounds like if you read any want ad for somebody employed looking for a self starter and looking for a terrorist. No they're looking for some guy who doesn't have to be told what to do every second. Exactly! So this definition is right. A self starter. An ideology underneath that inspires multiple one offs and at what stage

1:50:02 Do these multiple one-offs stop becoming one offs and we start recognizing that we're dealing with a phenomenon of the atomization Of self starter islamist terrorists. Yeah, I know starter ISM Yes, this goes along with being self starter Rizzo. Yes It's been Latinism and self starter ISM Wow, this is good to show title self starter ISM But I was thinking I was thinking as I heard this clip I was watching this interview Truly, this is the problem with the industrial technology society. Because it's just like this divorce crap because of the speed of information flow. You're really bugged by that divorce thing

1:50:44 I think it's cute. It's not cute because they did, they made me look ugly but look really stupid. See haven't seen the picture i'm sure yeah it's horrible a horrible job horrible is horrible copy like to see it in the newsletter for people out there and the copy actually it pretty much says well he's a podcaster in Austin you know no wonder No wonder she wants nothing old old media. Yeah, they're finally getting a clue I'm just saying that what I mean, this is just the beginning. Life is going to get much crazier and much, much crazier." John Maasseinier My teacher's journalism at Arizona State University and he has always been fascinated by the podcast because he sees it for what it is... This is a new trend in journalism. And last time I sent him something, he says, oh, because I've been you know that he just stunned

1:51:44 because he knows what we're doing is the right thing to do. NoahGenderPlayer.com, I need to remind people this is a fantastic resource! I think I've put it back in the on the home page of show notes you can go and someone's annotating the shows not transcribed but annotating... You can contribute to that you go to noahgenderplayer.com you pick the episode you say oh okay here's the topic click and it gives you a link even if it's not one of the annotated topics as the show was playing you can stop it and there's a link to that exact spot in the show. And you can tweet it, email it... this is a great resource for exactly this reason!

1:52:25 So the Dutch paper, you know they're a bunch of old hacks and they know that their days are numbered which they are. And although in Europe it's taking longer than it took here we pretty much wiped out everything except The New York Times Washington Post which is now owned by Jeff Bezos so they have at least a sugar daddy to keep them going but that's what do you need now? You have to have a sugar daddy or your nuts not gonna stay in business. I'd settle for a sugar daddy. Yeah well I'm sure you would A couple other great little articles that were of course snowed under by all of this

1:53:01 fantastic news from Australia which really, really helped. Because of course we have to you know... We are now on high alert because of this. Here's a headline Islamic State extremists are training five-year olds for combat in Syria I like that one thought there was a valiant effort but my favorite! My favorite one and i wish had a clip. Five year olds? Yes they're trained... Can't talk to a five year old?! Anyway go on Yeah, I talked to a five-year old knew what the five year old said to me Terrorist right there self starter. Yep self starter I wish I had an audio clip of this I don't Islamic State militants are launching bombs containing live scorpions as latest terror weapon in Iraq That's fantastic that is one of the best things ever

1:53:59 I've heard ever! Very, very happy with that. Yeah. Very happy. That was a classic Scorpion...I remember the Scorpion clip funny There was..I think i had something else maybe you don't have it hmm well then of course we had Pakistan and this made me uh well I hate to say it I would I didn't sound like I really smiled but this is exactly what our expert known as the Pakistani guy who runs the liquor store on the corner. It's exactly what he said! Do you remember what he said? No, tell me. The terrorists are coming... we know where they are it just a matter of time before we have a terrorist attack in Pakistan He said this not two weeks ago when we talked about it on the show Yeah He knew it was coming there all knew was coming Everyone knows is going on over there

1:54:55 They talk politics in the coffee shops. We don't do that, we talk about the Kardashians and the size of their enormous rear ends. John McCain took immediate advantage of this attack in Pakistan? You know when you go after civilians everyone is horrified at the viciousness... This went to children it just gets even worse doesn't it gets worse and uh... and we also it's going to be a lot more similar sweetly before spine rather than removing everybody from afghanistan will see the iraq movie again and you'll see the taliban inflicting more of these kinds of he has outrageous yes he is the penis attacks in

1:55:38 mayhem that they are capable of. The United States should be talking about a stabilizing force behind in Afghanistan to give them the capabilities that they don't have right now and won't leave, it should be conditions-based withdrawal not date driven and that way we can work more closely with the Pakistanis. I've been encouraged by the new head chief of the Pakistani army, the prime minister seems to be serious they did carry out these exercises in Waziristan against so I think we can get greater cooperation but right now they have a sanctuary and frankly there's attacks in the winter time which is unusual in Kabul and Helmand and other places. The Taliban has stepped up those attacks, casualties have been larger showing that we must leave a force behind. Oh! Won't somebody please

1:56:35 He's all about leaving the force behind more force behind we need some dudes there We do that then I can't draw down now that he's going to be running the committee Oh, yeah once. She's on the guys as soon as that happens. He's gonna be running everything very these these C-span clips are gonna be much more entertaining and this wasn't even c-span No, I'm talking about the CSET spend clips of the committee meetings. Oh, oh, it's much more entertaining. That'd be great! There is good news in all this there is opportunity John if this podcasting thing doesn't work out for us but there was a plan B and it was sent to me by one of our peerage members and I have a promotional clip

1:57:23 I'm from the intelligencecommunity.com website. So you're looking for a job in national security? Perhaps you are recent graduate, or veteran, or government employee in between jobs, or stay at home spouse. It would be nice to find permanent job and national security or in the goverment but it seems like everything requires you have clearance and work out of office building Nowadays, so much of what we do can be done remotely. Especially when it comes to analyzing and managing information, translation services, proposal writing, geopolitical consulting, business development, recruiting and the list goes on!

1:58:03 Why not do it remotely as a freelancer? The intelligence community.com is a new online marketplace currently under construction that will help you find these types of opportunities There's opportunities abound John freelance part-time from home, huh we can do this oh Yeah, my proposal writing is now that's a thrill But still, I... Well if you go to just intelligence.gov they have a bunch of the same... This other thing sounds like it's kind of a copy of intelligence.gov which is a government thing our mission careers lot of stuff on careers best places to work in the federal government for the six is a good one. The 2014 best places to work in the federal government

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2:11:18 First off, we have an anniversary. Chris Cook says happy anniversary to his lovely wife Lucy celebrating on the 19th tomorrow belated birthday to James Ogilvie celebrated on the 14th and birthdays today Sir Head Mofo in charge 32 he turns on December 19th Chris Cook says happy birthday to a son Nicholas celebrating on the 20th And sir Mitch bid Rodden's is happy birthday to his daughter Samantha and wishes her a Happy 14th birthday as do all of us here at The Best Podcast in the UK No changes in titles no nightings. No nothing else going on today. Oh, that's too bad Yeah, well it happens let me see we had our break cuz I'm just trying to figure out the time here okay? Think we're okay oh Let's see yeah good. I got a good segue all right seg seg away baby mega ratzilla Okay

2:12:17 They prowl in the night, thrive on trash and human waste. And once they move into an area... ...they're almost impossible to eliminate! Now, an exceptionally huge rat has been spotted on the outskirts of New York City. Was it just one stray supersized rodent? Or a sign that a big wave of mega rats is ready to take a bite out of the Big Apple? It's something to think about a pound and half rodent running around your home but think about six or seven pounds rodents running around That probably would send shivers up anybody's spine

2:12:53 Great segue, John. It's happening! Yeah like the killer bees... Six-pound rodents... We got a note... Rats six pound rats let's get that straight Got a note from John Calvin Jones PhD JD this is a professor of law Is that what is it? Am I correct there? The doctor of law. Doctor of law, is that well PhD that's... PhD is a professor something else. PhD JD it says yeah that means he got a phd in something and went off to get his jds got two degrees too big ones big ones big ones well that is not so good news for you why Well he says you are correct John did not listen to the full implications of the idea of an anonymous vote

2:13:41 Yeah, I'll skip all the- I'll skip everything and let's go to the end so please tell John and the end no agenda producers and listeners that I a PhD in political science University of Iowa 2003 Recognize that you a true and professional legislative analyst are correct, sir That is at least at the subcommittee and committee level anonymous votes would reduce the influence of corporate control of federal legislation And or reduce the divergence between congressional voting and the public public preferences I think it would make it worse. Do you have a PhD in political science? I don't, I do not! Do you have a PhD in English?! Who has a Phd in English!? Let me axe your question, you donut! Okay, ask...axe! I just thought that was nice You can disagree with the PhD University of Iowa Of course, we have to It's by law Yeah

2:14:46 Let's see. Oh that the native advertising thing you caught on Toys R Us? Yeah, that's spreading everywhere Walmart has been using it everyone's trying to jump. They're like oh this is great! Here is Mystery Man pays $50,000 in Walmart layaway bill and then listen to the story Nearly 100 patrons of a Pennsylvania Walmart had an early Christmas gift given to them by a mystery man who dropped off a $50,000 check to pay off the store's layaway bills. And notice they don't say of Shick-Shinney, Pennsylvania on the corner of 1st and Maine it's just A Pennsylvania Walmart please how insulting. Oh that way yeah that way nobody can check on this story is being bogus exactly and it's all over the place

2:15:36 Isn't crazy, crazy. Oh, the Kony. This is strange. Kony? Yeah, Kony 2012. They should have captured by now because we can do all these were very powerful country if we wanted to get him, we could get him because we have spy satellites everywhere and the NSA's plugged into everything so we could track this guy down and grab them as soon as that video came out you mean that guy yeah and we have two Ospreys tilt rotor aircraft 300 advisors and consultants helping track down the Lord's Revolution Army in hiding. Meanwhile, Invisible Children... this is the non-profit that produced the video you'll recall the founder of this was a video producer guy and he more or less raised all this money to create videos and make them go viral they're shutting down

2:16:36 They're closing down the operation. Didn't work! Well... And we are always skeptical about the viral aspect of it, too We're announcing today that the Invisible Children you've known is changing. We're downsizing the bulk of our US programs and operations at the end of the year to prioritize our political advocacy and Central Africa programs through 2015 Then they go through some kind of this is the guy who was running around naked And jumping on cars, which he says it wasn't me. It wasn't me. I was an outer body experience by mid 2012 they had $26.5 million in revenue 17 million dollars in net assets. That's incredible. By mid 2013 of course this is what the meltdown happened the organization 4.9 million and revenue less than 6.6 million in assets. Where'd all that money go?

2:17:35 Making videos and apparently a lot of crystal meth or whatever else the guy was on when he freaked out Yeah, that's a lot of money. Yeah, it's a lot of money to blow through when you're just a phony operation like that yeah It's what it is I have I Have a clip here where you place another segue although? You won't play the another Parliament clip to its end where they're booing Why not How about Breaking Bad TV tour? I thought this was kind of interesting. I had no idea people were this stupid. Nominally successful TV drama, Breaking Bad put Albuquerque New Mexico firmly on the map Well since then the city has become something of a pilgrimage site for the show's fans. Breaking Bad success had a positive impact on the local economy but after five seasons and 62 episodes it is now off air while local government is trying to keep people interested

2:18:38 The series has ended, but the famous RV from Breaking Bad is still alive and kicking. At least a replica of it is! This one isn't the meth lab... It's a tourist bus. Over to my left is the Crossroads Hotel used in almost every season. These fans paid $75 for the Breaking Bad RV tour. Wow there's hope for us John! That's how it ends. There is no booing? Yeah, did you hear the booing? Not really... There were three rounds of booing! Boo, boo and boo! That was what they were doing. They were boo-ing I received a document... It was a rude operation that thing What thing? The Parliament! Well fine Can't they just be quiet and let people speak? No but i think..I like it. I think its fun Its entertaining to watch Its a scripted

2:19:42 show, it's not even interesting. I received a document from the Lincoln Nebraska school system and of course schools have changed dramatically particularly with what i would call cultural Marxism but really political correctness and how teachers should be educating our children and this was sent to me this is about the gender spectrum the continuum of sex and gender And this brings together knowledge of biology, which of course is anatomy chromosomes hormones. I have a little graph here where you have male on the left female on the right and intersex in the middle This is the school document gender identity psychological sense of self two-spirit third gender agender Hey Noah gender Gender expression sexual orientation and then there's 12 easy steps

2:20:40 on the way to gender inclusiveness. These are recommend... I don't know if they're rules or recommendations for the Lincoln, Nebraska school system but i thought maybe we should discuss a few of them. I think this is a great idea! Number one avoid asking kids to line up as boys or girls or separating them by gender instead use things like odd and even birth dates Which would you choose? Skateboards or bikes, milk or juice, dogs or cats, summer or winter, talking or listening. Invite students to come up with choices themselves! Consider using tools like the appointment schedule to form pairs of groups. Always ask yourself will this configuration create a gendered space? What?!

2:21:33 They always have the teachers must always ask themselves. Will this configuration? Create a gendered space what does that mean I don't know gender space gendered gendered spaces I said gender no it's gendered with ed at the end Gendered yes gendered space. Oh gendered space Yeah, will this create a gendered space meaning will this create what does that mean? I don't know i'm looking there's no definitions I do see at the bottom of this they have A gingerbread man and it's called the gender bread person Fuck me a gender bread man And it's all the gender bread person gender bread not gingerbread the gin and the gingerbread cookie

2:22:18 But they call it the genderbred person. You have to see it, never mind. Genderbread? Let me move on. B-R-E-D or B-R-E-A-D? B-R-E-A-D So gendered... Genderbread. No, gender bread. It makes no sense! What is this what are they trying to do?! Well let's go to number two on the list while we're at it Don't use phrases such as boys and girls you guys ladies and gentlemen And similarly gendered expression To get kids attention Instead say things like Calling all readers or hey campers, or could all of the athletes come here? Create in a classroom says ladies and gentlemen. I like hey campers Hey campers create classroom names then ask all of the purple penguins to meet at the rug What

2:23:09 This is a joke. No, no! Something from the onion hello? I'm sorry man this is real No Yes No Yes NO Okay It can't be it's real yes this is very real I like why don't you say hey slaves that would be better That would work I think that's the way to go Hey slaves Hello slaves Number three Provide an opportunity for every student to identify a preferred name or pronoun at the beginning of the year or at a back-to-school night, invite students and parents to let you know if they have a preferred name and or pronoun by which they wish to be referred. Hey you? What would their preferred pronouns... I mean I'm not sure what this is trying to get people to do. Let us go to number four on the list

2:24:08 Have visual images reinforcing gender inclusion. Pictures of people who don't fit gender norms, signs that strike out sayings like all boys or all girls or All genders welcome! All genders welcome? Yeah when you find it necessary this is number uh Five we find it necessary to reference gender say boy girl both or neither Neither. Or neither. When asked... Boy, girl both or neither so you can say so what do you want to be called? Ah both! Yeah but then what do you call somebody hey both get over here I mean what do you call it would you know okay when asked why use this as a teachable moment

2:24:59 Emphasize to students that your classroom recognizes and celebrates the gender diversity of all students. You celebrate! That's right, six. Do you like this? Want to do some more? It's only 12. Hey, let us read them all it is just disgusting as hell. Point out and inquire when... No wonder the country is going downhill. Oh yeah. Point out and inquire when you hear others referencing gender in a binary manner This is like for fifth graders or is this for college students? What was this for? So, fifth graders. You're a fifth grader and some... Oh no you can't use the word girl. You can't use she. No good! Uh-uh don't use it stop it. No I think could even be for third graders I think well maybe it is Can you imagine these kids by the time they're in high school if they actually stick to this kind of philosophy

2:25:56 Insufferable. So when someone uses, references gender in a binary manner ask things like hmm that is interesting can you say more about that? Or what makes you say that I think of it a little differently provide counter narratives that challenge students to think more expansively about their notions of gender This is fantastic. 7. Look for examples in the media that reinforce gender stereotypes or binary models of gender It won't be hard, they're everywhere When with others call it out and interrogate it How about hey that Miss America pageant what the fuck

2:26:41 8. Be intolerant of openly hostile attitudes or references towards others every time you hear or observe them, but also use these as teachable moments. Take the opportunity to push the individual on their statements about gender. Being punitive may stop the behavior at least in your presence being instructive may stop it entirely Woo! Three more. Nine, teach children specific language that empowers them to be proud of who they are or to defend others who are being mistreated such as please respect my privacy Or you may think that but I don't or You may not like it But I do or hey They're called private parts for a reason Oh man What?

2:27:40 They're called private parts for a reason. In other words, it's private what I am or how identify on the gender level. When I was kid they had the big... you go to PE and then you have shower. Yeah And it'd be just a big open shower with a bunch of naked kids roaming around. Guess you can't do that anymore? Uhh..I don't know It doesn't say anything about that Help students recompile Help students recognize all-or-nothing language by helping them understand the difference between patterns and rules. Teach them phrases like, that may be true for some people but not all people or frequently but not always or more common and less common Avoid using normal to define any behaviors Oh you can't be normal No it can be something Well that maybe true for some people but not all people Frequently but not always

2:28:34 Share personal anecdotes from your own life that reflect gender inclusiveness even better. Share examples when you were not gender inclusive in your thinking, words or behaviors what you learned as a result and what you will do differently next time." I'm sorry...I didn't- I was gender exclusive. And finally... Well that may be true for some people but not all people It's more common and less common And finally do the work yourself. What are your own experiences with gender? What might be some of your own biases what assumptions Do you make about gender of others share reflections about your own evolving understandings Of gender hey campers, let's talk about my own understanding of gender today All right That was a good little list and that's in nebraska Can't imagine what's going on in california Hmm The social that's that's about it written by

2:29:36 Written by Ms. Bill Williams I hope it wasn't duped, I think that's real Who refers to doesn't use pronouns or he only chooses his own pronoun and he chooses or she she chooses it You gotta love it That's pretty insulting Yeah But thats what is said All right, what else you got boy? How we doing here in time. No you can't didn't I have one more clip Uh, let me see what we have played i think i've gone through all my clips which is rare Yeah, I think you have I didn't have a lot of clips then I have uh Let's see What can still be good um well not not necessarily a clip I did parse through the United Nations IPCC

2:30:27 the Lima Peru agreement. We didn't get to this on Sunday, everybody was in Lima you know the this was another one of the big... Yes including Amy Goodman who is reporting from Lima and everyone was there and they were supposed to end on Friday and they didn't have an agreement it was freaking out yeah and so they stayed all night Saturday came up with a with a thing on Sunday, and I put the paper of the agreement into the show notes. This is the conference of the parties 20th session Lima 1 through 12 December 2014. A report of the ad hoc working group on the Durban platform It's so obvious that this is such bullcrap because no one really wants to commit to anything because it means that we'd have to send money to poor nations typically in Africa

2:31:24 So there is no outcome. They have what they call a good framework for the 2015 meeting in Paris and this thing is filled with... I think I'd like to go to that one! Yeah, get our hair done with everybody else would be perfect for that. Nobody gets that joke The hair done? Yeah, that's referred...this is for newbies to the show. This was a reference to Hillary Clinton. Yes she used to go to Paris and her hair would look dynamite so the whole document is filled with reiterating recalling affirming noting our favorite

2:32:06 underscoring, urging, acknowledging. There's pretty much nowhere in there that really agrees oh yes agrees that each party's intended nationally determined contribution towards achieving the objective of the convention as set out in its article two will represent a progression beyond the current undertaking of that party which I think means we all promise to do better Isn't this? This is really to me proof that this is bullcrap. No one wants to do anything Well, they know they don't talk a big game. They really really really don't want to do anything I don't even know why it's no the whole thing as ludicrous and so many from so many different angles hmm And I don't think I don't think I'm out

2:33:02 Okay, well that's good. We can end the show it doesn't mean we have to just stretch forever Well I had two things you tell me if you're interested in one is Matt and Jen talking about Turkey's NATO membership now that they are You know friends with Russia Want to join the Shanghai cooperate cooperative organization a little back-and-forth from Jen and Matt I love this. This is the show, this is the... Oh, this is Janice's not Marie? No it's not Ma- we don't yeah It's a Matt and Marie show but but Marie is uh..no longer in the show One of the prerequisites for being a member NATO or at least a member in good standing in NATO Is to be a democracy Are you concerned all these backsliding that your seeing in Turkey that you've expressed concern about might hurt

2:33:59 Turkey's standing in NATO as a good solid member? No. So, in other words they can go around and detain as many journalists and cops as they want... I love how he sets her up! Get her to say no it's oh really that's okay you're dumb democracy if you arrest journalist and arrest cops and... ...and try soccer club supporters We're trying to overthrow the government by attending a, what you'd say is illegal protest and it has no implications for them or any other NATO member if the same thing was going on in their territory. Turkey is a democracy as I mentioned A number of these important values like media freedom due process judicial independence are enshrined in the Turkish constitution

2:34:53 That doesn't mean that they're actually respected. I mean, there's a lot of things in trying to... But it means that we can speak out as do others when we have concerns about the implementation of these pieces but it does not mean that they don't continue to be an important ally and NATO partner There you go! It's not a problem Interesting Yeah? Alright alright I think uh We should end the show today for this particular episode It's going to be very interesting to see what happens The next program which will be 380 that'll be on Sunday And I may have more info from the back channel, the New York Channel with North Korea through Don

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