Episode 675 · Thursday, 4 December 2014

Aristocrats!

Federal funding flows to surveillance tech as racial tensions mount, while Russia pivots its energy empire toward Turkey to bypass European Union regulatory hurdles.

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About this episode

President Barack Obama proposed $263 million in federal funding for 50,000 police body cameras following the death of Eric Garner in New York City. The move benefits Taser International Inc. as municipal governments face mounting pressure to increase law enforcement surveillance. While Mayor Bill de Blasio calls for nonviolent protests, critics like Milwaukee Sheriff David Clark accuse the administration of using racial tension for political leverage.

Russian President Vladimir Putin asserted Crimean sovereignty during his State of the Union address while shifting energy strategy toward Turkey. Following the cancellation of the South Stream pipeline, Gazprom plans a new gas hub to bypass European Union regulations. In Ukraine, President Petro Poroshenko appointed American national Natalie Jaresko as Finance Minister, signaling direct Western involvement in the Kiev administration. Meanwhile, the ruble continues to devalue, causing service prices in Murmansk to spike by 40 percent.

NASA delayed the Orion launch due to concerns over Van Allen belt radiation, reigniting debates over the technical hurdles of the Apollo era. Comedian Bill Cosby faces new sexual assault allegations from Judy Huth as the media cycle shifts toward historical misconduct. This episode features contributions from Sir Chris Bach and Sir David Foley, alongside a technical breakdown of UTC time for global broadcasting.


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CHAPTER 01 / 38 Discussion

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio Calls for Nonviolent Protests

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio urged citizens to engage in nonviolent protests following the death of Eric Garner. Officer Daniel Pantaleo issued a statement expressing regret over the fatality, while observers questioned why a city mayor would actively encourage public demonstrations against his own administration's police force.

bill de blasio· eric garner· daniel pantaleo· new york city· race war

00:00 Buy the gas from us, but you also must buy a rug. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Thursday December 4th 2014 time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 675 This is no agenda Time warping through the Van Allen belts from home base in FEMA Region 6 here in Austin, Texas. In the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry and for Northern Silicon Valley where it's all wet...I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! Get on in! Wow! I guess that was a little short on the intro You were? Yeah, I think I pulled something out and then I thought you would have more

00:40 No, it was fine. It doesn't move loose. It worked. Lucy goosey. Anything happened in the world? Nah, it took the day off. The world took the day off well they finally done it John they finally got their little race war going yeah finally finally they've done it hmm people most people black and white aren't interested in a race war No, it's not interesting. I mean there's a bunch of people that like to incite race wars But most people don't want to depends on what you mean under with we understand under a race war. I think it is It's the conclusions that people draw and then I find interesting You know I mean What did they like what? White privilege oh yeah this kind of stuff That cops everywhere are

01:43 Just hunting down black kids. That's pretty much my kids get hunted down too, and but that's not that's not those that's nothing else is Now I don't know that's not the conclusion of the race war unfortunately you have an opinion. I mean it's unavoidable This is the only thing has been on You have to clip from the chokehold update Okay hold on a second let me Get the chokehold update does it doesn't require any any intro? Yeah, chokehold But he also called for calm as did New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio who urged nonviolent protest the officer Daniel Pantaleo issued a statement saying it is never my intention to harm anyone and I feel very bad about the death of mr. Garner hmm

02:33 De Blasio asked for nonviolent protests. Isn't he the mayor? He's the mayor of New York City, yes Why is he asking for a protest at all isn't either running the place it's his fault No, but there you go. Let me see Mayor say let's have nonviolent protests over this Does anyone find that peculiar yeah I find all of this peculiar But it seems to be Seriously, John. It seems that this is really there's a lot of people all in on this I'm loving the black voices like Charles Barkley. I love how he's coming out and talking about this Did you see this sheriff David Clark? He's from Milwaukee did you see him to speak at all no? Well it's a longer clip. I want to play that in a moment

CHAPTER 02 / 38 Discussion

Democracy Now! Coverage of Michael Brown Investigation and Media Disparities

Democracy Now! reported that Missouri police are investigating Louis Head, the stepfather of Michael Brown, for potential incitement after he was recorded shouting "burn this bleep down" following a grand jury decision. Comparisons are drawn between the intense media focus on domestic police incidents and the lack of coverage regarding casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan.

democracy now· michael brown· ferguson· louis head· media bias

03:21 Well, I have a Ferguson clip that probably should be played. Okay. Just to give our audience and kind of a deeper understanding of the difference between our show and shows like Democracy Now! Police as you recall, I'm sorry whoops. Did you not want me to do that? Yeah No way you would yeah You've been jumping on these a little early when you find him like you're surprised well no I waited there was this long pause and like okay. I'll hit it now Yeah, yeah, well actually you can hit it now But let me just set it up anyway Just to make sure that there you people can see the difference between our show because we played We're the only show and I said in the newsletter That play the entire clip

04:02 of Michael Brown's dad exhorting the crowd to burn down the place, right? Yes. It was about 30 seconds or whatever and this is what you get from Democracy Now! Police in Missouri say the stepfather of Michael Brown is under investigation for potential incitement a video taken just after the grand jury decision not to indict officer Darren Wilson for Brown's death shows Lewis head and emotional outburst he seen saying burn this bleep down No, no clip at all. And he said, burn this bleep down because God forbid we say the word bitch. Wow! I found that disgusting. So here is again it's all about the response and what...I find it interesting to see what the response of the administration is by the way just looking at Ferguson and what makes The News

05:03 You know, for weeks now and certainly in the past 48 hours this has all been... you see lists and lists of here's all the black men and black boys who have been killed by police. I've never ever have seen a list in at least the past 10 years of the black boys and white boys killed in Iraq Afghanistan. You never see that! It is just one of these things I notice And then we have, you know black men killed while resisting arrest. Bill Cosby still at large! Just protect him? But if you want to understand what really happened a lot of you certainly in America should probably

CHAPTER 03 / 38 Discussion

President Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder Face Race-Baiting Accusations

President Barack Obama stated his commitment to ensuring Americans believe they are equal under the law, a phrasing that drew scrutiny for focusing on perception rather than legal reality. Public figures including Charles Barkley and Sheriff David Clark have criticized the administration, with some accusing Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder of being race baiters.

barack obama· eric holder· charles barkley· race baiting· equal under the law

05:46 not try to get out of jury duty and go sit on a jury. I'm sure you've been on jury, John? I'm sure you've done that. No! I've been taken to jury duty. I have gone and sat there for two days and then told at the very end well your journalist we don't want you on the jury. See that's just...I never got on the jury either because I was in the media so they wouldn't let me in but Lots of people have done jury duty and it's a little more nuanced than the way It's being portrayed. And of course this, uh... This New York choking is very subtly being connected to Staten Island When you know that that's code right? No! Yeah for Republicans Oh! Never expected Staten Island to indict no because its

06:41 That's Republicans there. Then we have the...let's see, what do we have? President Obama- We're gonna look at this politically I'd have to say that there has been in retrospect Obama has done absolutely nothing for the black community. Oh and the black community! There are lots of black voices coming out and saying that and calling him and Holder race baiters including Charles Barkley which i think is great finally But listen to the words, short clip here. Specifically the words that the president said. I said this is an issue we've been dealing with for too long and it's time for us to make more progress than we made And i'm not interested in talk im interested in action and I am absolutely committed as President of The United States To making sure That We have a country where everybody believes

07:34 in the core principle that we are equal under the law. So he's not saying where everyone is equal under the law, it says where everyone believes they're equal under the law and you really accentuated that too or am I just seeing to more reading too much into this? I think why...I would say just superficially you're reading too much into it but yeah that's what he does exactly now this is leading to something which we may differ an opinion on This is not a problem simply of Ferguson, Missouri. This is a problem that is national it's a solvable problem but its one that unfortunately spikes after one event and then fades into the background until something else happens

CHAPTER 04 / 38 Discussion

Federal Funding for Police Body Cameras and Taser International Stock

President Obama proposed $263 million in federal funding to purchase 50,000 police body cameras and provide law enforcement training to build community trust. Taser International Inc., trading under the ticker TASR, is a primary manufacturer of these systems, though critics argue that constant surveillance could lead to the creation of "bionic robocops" controlled by command centers.

barack obama· taser international· body cameras· surveillance· police reform

08:23 So what exactly is President Obama proposing? And will it be enough to quell public anger. Well he's calling for Congress to approve $263 million of funding that would pay for 50,000 police body cameras It would also pay for law enforcement training for officers the idea... To build trust between police and the communities they serve So first there's the crookedness or the twisted nature of needing a quarter of a billion dollars for body cameras when all this military industrial complex stuff is being gifted straight through from the defense department. I like that. Right down to, what is it? Bayonets!

09:08 Right, bayonets, bearcats, multi-million dollar devices. Sound machines and all the rest of it now they can't afford body cameras and this body camera thing is a big deal in a lot of different ways because when it's been employed all the police police brutality drops, the complaints drop. All these things change because the cops are now surveilling themselves but you have places like Seattle who tried it and then they decided it was too complicated they didn't like the idea there was basically both Seattle and San Francisco Police Departments are notoriously corrupt and mean and you know

09:47 but bastards essentially and they won't wear these cameras because it will show what they're up to and they can do that so they take the key but eventually i think he's cops gonna have to be camera eyes now they've been one thing there bitching about as well as too difficult if you could see how to turn on and off their determine our view The coolest system is the camera's going 24-7. When the policeman sits back in his car, it's immediately uploaded to the car and then transmitted to the headquarters where it was put on the hard disk on the servers so you just have a transparent system. You just have to do your job correctly. Yeah this is made by a company called Taser International Inc

10:27 and the synchronization upload system you speak of is called The Evidence, which is a different website evidence.com Very interesting to see this public company their stock has really been on the move for the past about two months. Bought some little insider trading and stuff yeah it's I'll tell you what this with the ticker symbol is. What's the ticker? Ticker symbol? I'm gonna give it to you TASR so they make tasers obviously now I think it's the idea of body cameras is a very, is not well thought through.

11:05 This is, it really is just another... Sure. It's going to protect the public and we'll have our eyes on the cops or the cops won't be able to do stuff but at the same time in the abuse is so easy if we have cameras full-time behind the streets everywhere I mean why don't we just connect it up to HQ and turn these cops into bionic robocops? And you know someone could just sit there in the command center and just tell them what to do This is not a...I do not think this is a good idea. Yes, there's lots of problems with police officers and corruption but no different from politicians or bankers or anything like that. I don't agree with it. I don't think this is a good idea. Well, you know, politicians and bankers aren't public servants that are supposed to protect and serve their businessmen. You don't want to hook them up to cameras

12:05 It doesn't make any sense. Your analogy is faulty." We have no... Let's, okay when it comes to transparency then if you want to go find out what politicians are doing uh you have to go down to the basement and you can photocopy their investment portfolio I'm just saying that- And that's not good? I don't think this is a good idea to have these body cameras. I just don't see the abuse factor some and also you're going to have I don't know. I need some data on it, you say didn't work in Seattle San Francisco But I'd need to see some data- Well San Francisco hasn't tried it but they won't eat that I doubt they'll touch it I don't think it's a...I just don't..it doesn't feel like a good idea to me There are there is another The thing that bothers me the most is

CHAPTER 05 / 38 Discussion

Police Brutality Lawsuits and Municipal Taxpayer Liability

New York City reportedly spent $1 billion over several years on settlements related to police brutality and misconduct lawsuits. Despite these massive payouts, public officials and officers rarely face termination, leaving the tax-paying public to bear the financial burden of municipal legal failures.

police brutality· lawsuits· settlements· new york city· taxpayer funding

12:53 What was it? The white privilege and people are so embarrassed. Before you go there, because you're just so against the cameras here's what bothers me the most. What bothers me the most are these lawsuits against these municipalities over one thing or another police brutality or somebody gets run over by a public servant, all these different sorts of things that cost millions and millions of dollars. If you do a little research on police brutality lawsuits settled like New York City drops $1 billion over a few years on these situations and nobody gets fired

13:32 No, public official gets fired and who pays? Who picks up the tab on this. The public! The no agenda producers. If this thing saves me tax money put cameras on all these cops. I think less cameras in public is better that's not gonna happen you're on the wrong side of it. Thank You Obama put me on the wrong side of history here so here's a an email I received and I've seen the sign Out on the streets. I am 3 5th a person And this is no, this isn't here's an email. I got now let me just read this to you It's very disturbing yeah Where's the email? calendar

CHAPTER 06 / 38 Discussion

Three-Fifths Compromise Interpretation and Constitutional History Debate

A debate regarding Article 1, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution centers on whether the "three-fifths" clause was intended to dehumanize black people or to limit the political power of Southern slaveholders. While some argue the foundation of America is systemic racism, others contend the compromise was a Northern strategy to eventually abolish slavery by reducing the South's voting apportionment.

constitution· three-fifths compromise· slavery· white guilt· article 1 section 2

14:18 Not now, just it goes back to the 1700s or something. Yes it does and this so I'm getting emails This is all about the white privilege and we should be embarrassed and all this has all messed up. Let me read this email to you Where's here? We should be embarrassed because a white privilege and you got an email that told you this Here it is Sorry somehow oh here it is. I lost the Here we go. I'm, this is from Richard and Richard's a listener of the show? He is a listener of the show. Okay. Um, this is producer. I don't know if he's shown, I dunno if he's donated. This isn't regarding the clip from Michael Denzel Smith about the white supremacy and racism being baked right into the foundation of the country actually. I probably should have

15:09 Baked yes, probably should play that clip again. Let me just see if I have that here somewhere You recall the clip and I'm talking about no I do not I am vaguely vaguely think we played this on the last show Let me just grab it. I'm sorry. I should have prepared this a little bit better No need to continually apologize. Mmm. I just feel bad about it and of course I really can't find it Okay, we're just gonna have to live with not having it I guess. This is the way this show would be! I'm going to tell people something a little secret okay? We did the Christmas show on Tuesday...I have- I had the clip by the way i found yes we did the christmas show on Tuesday and now we're kind of discombobulated in fact I find it very uncomfortable to get up to do this show because you just did a show. I agree It's very strange. This was what it would be like if we did three shows a week yeah

16:03 Yes, I feel we'll get into it John. I feel discombobulated myself but here's the clip i was referring to this is from MSNBC from Michael Denzel Smith about the foundation We were supposed to have this conversation and deal with this on a national level in the Trayvon Martin instance and clearly we have not what does that mean for this country that you really had not dealt with it Well, we have this conversation over and over again. The problem is one people come to the conversation with a sort of amnesia and forget that we had it before. And then also that the parameters of the conversation are so narrowly defined as to define racism as a personal hatred towards black people. And we're not dealing with the systemic

16:48 ideas that uphold racism and white supremacy in this country, and then lead to the death of a Trayvon Martin or Michael Brown or Renisha McBride or Rekia Boyd. On and on and on and on what we haven't dealt with what we refuse to deal with is the idea of the fact that I found the foundation of this country is racism and white and white supremacy and all our institutions uphold that okay By the way, yes. This is does anyone like to maybe note that George Zimmerman was Hispanic? Don't conveniently white. Yes, don't confuse the purposes of the debate. He's Hispanic. Yes he is So I received an email from producer Richard. No no if he's actually a donor I'm as white on rice and milk during a snowstorm

17:39 So perhaps it's not my place to say, which right away just shows you right there he has some white guilt problems. There are some... Exactly! People always put the disclaimer at the beginning. Fuck that. I don't agree with everything you say But both of you and John acted as if Mr Smith had no leg to stand on in his assertion that racism and white supremacy is systemic and the foundation of America I know you're well versed in the Constitution, which upon review may show that he has at least three-fifths of a leg to stand on." This is the key. Do you know what this is referring to John? Yeah it's referring to the value or the black citizenry having three fifths of rights of the ruling classes. Yeah let me try and say... Well read it! This refers to Article 1 Section 2 of The Constitution Of The United States

18:33 And this, I'll read it to you. Representatives and direct taxes shall be apportioned among the several states which may be included within this union according to their respective numbers which shall be determined by adding to the whole number of free persons including those bound to service for a term of years and excluding Indians not taxed three-fifths of all other persons And here is how that is interpreted by many people, including this white guilt person. Now, while those three persons may have included some black people I don't know of the other persons including a single white person. We can argue original intent until the cows come home and even assuming the best-case scenario that our founding fathers wished all people to be equal but the political and economic realities at the time made it impossible which i believe remains that they wrote and signed their names to make it not so And the way he interprets this 3 fifth is

19:30 A black person, a slave was only worth three-fifths of free people. And I don't read it that way. For tax purposes? Well tax and voting purposes the... Yeah. And this was very specific of course with the founding documents The North really wanted to abolish slavery and they wanted to make sure that they didn't have too many votes in the South And this is why they came up with the so-called three fifths compromise. The way to properly interpret three fifths, it's three fifth of the total number of other persons which is very different than saying you're only 3 5th of a person. Do you see this little difference? That's fine I think your right and this guy just got it he just said he's like white guilt soaked character

20:17 Now, there's a couple of little gotchas in this that are kind...that were never discussed and it's not really in the Constitution. But of course the Southerners would like to have those black votes as full. Yes, of course. Because they would...because when they...the way it worked down in the South and this is a lot of discussion about this, the black slaveholder owned those votes. And so if he had 100 slaves- He had 100 extra votes. ...had 101 votes. And by the way, women weren't allowed to vote at all during this period. Who cares? No one talks about that! It's only about the black people. What the hell with women?! Now during the debate as to secede from the union

20:59 Because of the number of slaveholders, there's only like a very few of them. I think there was like 30,000 in the entire South and but they had enough votes because of their slaves that they could vote this... The public at large did not want to have the Civil War. They didn't want to fight it wasn't that in their best interest. They're the ones who would have to go do battle but the slave holders of their the ones that had all these votes so they voted devoted every state voted for them for the succession because they have these dvd's it was a minority essentially in a mc minority takeover of this out and then to did this has been largely forgotten by the public especially the southern public who just would brainwashed into believe whatever they believe uh... and ignore the back we should never had a civil war if it wasn't for these guys and so i assert

21:50 In fact, with the founding of these documents—the founding of the country— it is exactly the opposite. No one was trying to bake, I like saying bake... no one's trying to put systemic white supremacy and slavery and racism- I'm sorry? Yes. They weren't trying to avoid that! To get rid of it! It's exactly the opposite so when I see people walking around with you know or certainly blacks with I'm only three fifths a person I find that to be a travesty of the truth The travesty of our educational system. Yeah, there's that. Let's get to the real root of this. We're going to talk about white liberal guilt unless you have another point to make specific I want to talk about St Louis a little bit and not about modern St Louis There is a series on PBS which is actually...I've been watching occasionally and I'm baffled by what his messages are And it's called America Re-Framed

CHAPTER 07 / 38 Discussion

St. Louis Public Housing History and the Pruitt-Igoe Project Failure

The Pruitt-Igoe housing project in St. Louis, built in 1949 under the Truman administration, eventually collapsed due to poor maintenance and restrictive welfare rules. Residents recalled how the welfare department forced fathers to leave the home as a condition for families to receive aid, leading to a systemic breakdown of the black nuclear family before the buildings were demolished in 1969.

st. louis· pruitt-igoe· public housing· welfare state· harry truman

22:47 And they did a whole show on the projects. The Igor, whatever they were called projects that were in St. Louis that were built in 1949 when the Democrats decided to pass some fair housing legislation In an effort to get rid of America's slums and put projects up And these are the Democrats behind all this and there was a lot of debate about whether this is good idea or not Specifically who was running the show Truman was the president period And so they passed a bunch of this money, money involved. So you could build projects and so they built as beautiful set of projects in St Louis in the 50's and it was architected by Japanese that show the interiors and which is fantastic

23:36 I mean, in terms of it's like what you get and they moved these people from the slums that they tore down. It was usually single family dwellings that were hell holes and without plumbing or anything like that. And then move them to these places eventually the thing caved in on itself because The blacks were expected to pay rent, which they couldn't afford. It was all mostly blacks or whites too and eventually they segregated but at first it was you know probably two-thirds blacks and a third whites and then they had low rents in the out of their rents that were supposed to maintain the buildings and there wasn't enough money to do so, and the whole thing fell apart. And just destroyed itself but... But there was other elements at play! But first I want you to play this clip St Louis housing opening and listen for the magic number! In the middle 50s, St Louis thought it had solved its low-cost housing needs but instead a monster was created. The things changed quickly as problems mounted. The decline was steep

24:33 Those who could move out did. 12,000 people were originally jammed into these 33 buildings. Of course! This makes so much sense doesn't it? I want to give Eric the shill credit for spotting that one. Good one good one. Now play the St Louis housing prison analogy and this was the way the welfare state was established by the Democrats for the blacks We're giving you money We want to be able to control you. We're giving you money, so we have the right... Oh yeah! ...to make stipulations as to how you use it and what you use it for." There were so many restrictions. We couldn't have a telephone. We couldn't have a television and we were really left at the mercy of the system

25:40 In the project, it seemed to be strategically planned to create an environment that people felt isolated. That people felt restricted and people felt inhuman almost You're bad We have to restrain you we have to curtail what you're doing It was void of humanity it was void of caring They seem more like a prison environment that you'd have to escape from Now that was one of the elements. At first, everyone's really pleased to be in these places and then it started to kind of eat at them but the clip that I want to play is and this is the last clip that I think is the most interesting because this was completely unknown to me that this sort of thing was going on cause we're always especially the liberals are always bitching and moaning about the black father

26:44 You know, he's gone. He's absent. He is not there and it's like these issues that need to be solved somehow. And this is what year? This is in the 50s. Look how much has changed now they Republicans are blamed for all this somehow. I don't know how they managed to do that, but if you really start looking at this as the Democrats fault for everything just the way i'm seeing it now... I want to play this is the St Louis housing finale. The information that is revealed in this clip now- This place by the way was leveled. This is the famous buildings that were blown up, you know. And everyone's like oh look that's what public housing is all about it gets blown up is no good was blowing up in 1960. Oh yeah I remember that sure 1969 all these buildings boom boom they're all just dry there are all of them leveled all 33 of them

27:31 and they were all level in 69. And this little clip here, which was unknown to me all these years and I thought was like the most revealing is again the welfare state at work. This is the St Louis housing finale clip. The welfare department came to our home talk with my mother about moving into the housing project, but the stipulation was that my father could not be with us. They would put us into the housing project only if he left the state. My mother and father discussed it, and they decided that it was best for the 12 children for the father to leave home And thats how we got into the projects

28:31 The welfare department had a rule that no able-bodied man could be in the house if a woman received aid for dependent children. If the man lost his job, he's looking for work He still had to leave the home and there was even a night staff of men who worked with the welfare department whose job was to go to the homes of the welfare recipients. Oh yeah? Oh come on! And they searched to find if there is a man in the home Open up Sometimes men came back at night to be with their families. Some were found in closet hiding I remember vividly my mother telling us if white people come to the house and ask you guys questions Tell them that your father is not here tell them that your father has never been here, and you have not seen your father

29:22 I trusted her. I knew that there was a reason that we had to do this charade and I participated in the charade, I sat there with those people in the eye and told them with pure earnestness that no, I have not seen my father and no, my daddy does not live here but I knew that I was lying and it made me wonder who are these people? And how they have the power to make my mother lie Wow! This brings me...this flows right into another clip Because what you're hearing there is exactly the same that children were told in, I know children who are told this in the Netherlands. If the Germans come to the door we don't have a radio and there's no Jews in the basement. Imagine your five years old and you have to say the same thing about me oh my dad's not here here is Ben Carson? The doctor who

CHAPTER 08 / 38 Discussion

Ben Carson Criticizes Political Correctness and Nazi Germany Comparisons

Dr. Ben Carson compared the current American political climate to Nazi Germany, arguing that government intimidation and "PC police" have made citizens afraid to speak their minds. Carson cited the IRS targeting scandal as evidence of the government using its tools to stifle dissent, a claim that drew pushback from media figures like Wolf Blitzer.

ben carson· nazi germany· political correctness· irs· free speech

30:20 who kind of got in President Obama's face during one of those prayer breakfasts, if you recall. He's a black doctor Republican and some think... Hold on a second I have a weird buzz on my mic what is going on? It has been one of those days what is happening? Can make it go away? All right guess not He is probably a contender possibly for Republican presidential candidate. Here is the controversial statement he made that he'll talk to Brolf about on CNN. Very much like Nazi Germany, and I know you're not supposed to say Nazi Germany but I don't care about political correctness... You know you had a government

31:06 using its tools to intimidate the population. We now live in a society where people are afraid to say what they actually believe, and it's because of the PC police, it's because of politicians, it's because of news... All these things are combining to stifle peoples' conversation." I would say he is correct! No, absolutely. And Brolf of course has if you want to hear a little bit of Brolf Yeah I'm gonna hear Brolf because he'll be all in on the other side Explain that cause when i heard the comparison of The United States Of America The greatest country In the world Oh! The greatest country America Uber Allers The greatest country ever and Nazi Germany What is he talking about?

31:54 Well, see what you were doing is allowing words to affect you more than listening to what was actually being said. Please explain that. That's part of the problem. I greatly admire you and what you've done over the years but to make a comparison between United States and Nazi Germany that just struck an awful tone It goes on like this. I'll play it until you have the douchebag clip you can play yeah, I think I got one over a year ago Nazi Germany experienced something horrible The people in Nazi Germany largely did not believe in what Hitler was doing. But did they say anything? Of course not, they kept their mouths shut and there are some very important lessons to be learned there. The fact that our government is using instruments of government like the IRS... And that of course is a Republican...

CHAPTER 09 / 38 Discussion

Muslims for Ferguson and the Council on American-Islamic Relations

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) and groups like "Muslims for Ferguson" have been accused of using domestic unrest to promote European-style hate speech laws in the United States. Critics suggest these organizations leverage "white guilt" to shield specific groups from criticism under the guise of fighting structural violence.

cair· ferguson· islamophobia· political correctness· social justice

32:49 you know, their mantra the talking point which by the way it turns out to be pretty true. Yeah well yeah punished done by everybody. It's opponents certainly by the Nazis nice nice nice This is not the kind of thing that, as far as I'm concerned, is a Democrat or Republican issue. This is an American issue." And that goes on if you...I don't think you want to hear all of it. No no, it's fine. Here here is something...of course a lot of groups came out and took advantage of this situation in Ferguson. A lot people talking about the new Black Panther Party which I don't know too much about. They are not some kind of derivative or new version of the black Panthers, it's really something different. No they're just this essentially what they call themselves right? The new black Panther party. Right. It doesn't mean anything but since the beginning and if you look at the Facebook while you don't, if you look at the Facebook group Muslims for Ferguson

33:50 Yeah, yeah. Here it comes. The Council of American Islamic Relations has had people... Oh that's good but that's a corrupt operation! Yes but they've had people… A lot of the Jean provocateurs I assert were from CARE, the Council of American Islamic Relations or you know some subsidiary or whatever and were part of the looting and part of the burning in the rioting and if you look at this group the idea is To do exactly what Ben Carson is protesting against here, is to usher in the same political correctness that Europe has. In Europe if you say anything about Islam or Muslims you are immediately deemed an Islamophobe

34:40 you have Islamophobia. And the whole idea here is to use your white privilege, your white guilt to not really say anything anymore about anybody... Not about blacks, not about browns, and about yellows, not about Muslims! They will be taking advantage of this. If you read this group here, this is why Ferguson is our issue. This is from the Islamic Monthly. Dear Muslim America Ferguson is your issue. Ferguson is our issue for a range of reasons that go well beyond passive commitment to civil rights or symbolic solidarity, Muslim Americans are bound to Ferguson and the shrill demand calling for an end to state sponsored structural violence against black America that reverberates from its embattled streets." You understand where it's going? Yeah! It is uber, uber political correctness...and everybody's falling for it

35:34 And it's... Yeah, well even one of our producers or listeners. Several John believe me this is really deeply embedded and this is where Facebook becomes interesting you just scroll through each every way oh I'm so ashamed all this is horrible and they're really missing the administration Why is anybody outside of the local community ashamed? Because they're their mind is a local issue that should have stayed a local I understand, but you're not debating me on that we know that but this is because it's being propagandized and people are being told that this is horrible and And you need to believe that you have all these rights and we need every okumbaya and please vote Democrat. I think that's ultimately the end of the day That is what this is all about although Although I will say there's always a Hollywood angle he's got supporters Detroit

CHAPTER 10 / 38 Discussion

Oprah Winfrey Produced Civil Rights Film Selma Release

The film Selma, produced by Oprah Winfrey, is scheduled for release in January 2015, depicting the civil rights marches led by Martin Luther King Jr. and his interactions with President Lyndon B. Johnson. Some observers suggest the timing of the film's promotion coincides with current racial tensions in the United States.

oprah winfrey· selma· martin luther king jr· lyndon b johnson· movie release

36:29 New York, Los Angeles inciting large-scale arrests and sympathy marches. I'm very aware of that Mr Hoover What i do know is he's nonviolent what i need to know right now... What Martin Luther King about to do next? This is the movie Selma which is coming out in January 2015 One dream can change the world produced by amongst others Oprah Winfrey storyline, Martin Luther King, Lyndon Baines Johnson civil rights marches that changed America. I think it's right on schedule. Yeah? It's a long way to go! You want to change the movie they hate Whitey. Thanks Oprah! Good work! I can actually see the meeting was like hey but we might have killed some people to promote this movie whatever it's for the greater good

CHAPTER 11 / 38 Discussion

Sheriff David Clark Criticizes Eric Holder at National Press Club

Milwaukee Sheriff David Clark delivered a speech at the National Press Club criticizing Attorney General Eric Holder for throwing law enforcement "under the bus" for political gain. Clark questioned Holder's claims of being racially profiled as a federal prosecutor, noting that if Holder did not report the incidents at the time, his current anecdotes appear self-serving.

david clark· eric holder· national press club· racial profiling· ferguson

37:30 It's really, uh... Really, really very disturbing. I wanna play a bit of this, uh- An alternative voice, which I don't think got any real airplay. And every... What is the political manager for Russell Simmons doing on TV? Have you seen this guy? This white guy and he's Russell Simmons. You know, Russell Simmons isn't a white guy! No, no. Russell Simmons is not on it's his political- It's his manager. Yeah. And this white guy is speaking on behalf of Russell Simmons. This what so great. He's on the evenings mornings down everywhere. That's ludicrous This is crazy And I can't take the guy seriously This is sheriff David Clark from Milwaukee See it's just going to play last thing want to talk about and that wasn't scared this was at the National Press Club in DC And no coverage as far as I could tell we'll talk about this. This is important someone mentioned Eric Holder, and I'll be

38:30 I might point out he's black. I'm known for not sugarcoating things This pissed me off A smattering of applause I sat up and watched as events unfold in Ferguson, Missouri Unfortunate situation obviously Anytime a law enforcement officer uses force and takes the life it deserves a thorough transparent vetting investigation we all Kind of agree with that But then some groups started to converge on the small town of Ferguson, Missouri like vultures on a roadside carcass. Groups like the New Black Panther Party people like Al Sharpton who's to come and exploit that situation and instead of coming in to help and try to restore calm poured gas on that fire with some other inflammatory and irresponsible rhetoric

39:33 And I sat up there and listened to Governor Nixon. And I sat up there and listened to Claire McCaskill, the senator. Then I sat up there and listened Eric Holder throw law enforcement officers under the bus for political expediency These are same individuals that election time come around wanting support from law enforcement organizations right? They all stand up there. I'm supported by this fraternal organization and this police association and i've received a excellent rating by them they do that when they need us But now there was an opportunity to improve their bona fides with some of these interest groups like the new Black Panther Party, to flaunt their racial sensitivity and threw law enforcement under the bus. I expect that from Governor Nixon."

40:35 Just wait for me to jump in saying, this is boring. I expected that from Claire McCaskill. Did you want to say something before I continue? No, the governor's talking about...I believe he was a Democrat and this is the only confusing thing about this whole deal and McCaskill's a Democrat These guys, the only thing that baffles me is the Democrat element on the other side of this debate doesn't make sense if it's all about just making everyone into a Democrat. But anyway play on and I'll maybe think about why i'm so confused He is indeed a democrat, I'm just checking here Those are nothing but two-bit politicians they do that sort of... That's what politicians do you know that? But I did not expect that from Eric Holder

41:26 who calls himself a law enforcement officer. Instead of talking responsibly, instead of measuring his words because that's what is needed at a time like that you got to measure what you say because tensions are high and the wrong thing said can make a bad situation worse And he sat up there and talked about how he has seen law enforcement officers profile, he's been the victim of racial profiling himself. This is an interesting story He named two situations one in a traffic stop in New Jersey and said I remember feeling the indignation as they searched my vehicle Then he talked about a situation when he was in Georgetown not too far from here

42:07 and how he and a friend were stopped on the way to the movie theater, and they felt that they were racially profiled. And he said I was a federal prosecutor when those things happened. I said wait a minute Mr Attorney General if you felt those officers had violated your Fourth Amendment rights in your federal prosecutor and you didn't say anything at the time on behalf of everybody in United States You could have done something If you felt that you could have made a complaint because all of us kind of realize in law enforcement, right? We testify. What do they say in court if you didn't write it down? You didn't report it? It didn't happen and that's what I was thinking oh really Mr Attorney General? You didn't report it then! You didn't write it down but you're telling us some 10-15 years later for self serving purposes. That would seem correct to me that's exactly what's going on. I think there is a nice catch there by the sheriff

43:11 Holders a douchebag. Oh in fact, we'll just give him a little I'm sorry gunrunner Chicago by the way you have to do follow-up once in awhile of the the Mexican the drug is the drug and the drug guy Yeah We should follow that up if we need to follow up on that anyway In the show notes there'll be links too If you definitely listen and watch the if you haven't seen the Charles Barkley what he has to say. And he calls Obama and Holder literally race baiters, and it's very strong! It's really really strong the stuff that he's saying. I'm happy about that but i think that the public at large are just all in... Oh yeah, it was horrible. And Barclay is just Barkley. Yeah, anyone can know he's always just Barkley exactly exactly so those others all-in yeah those are the things to look out for

CHAPTER 12 / 38 Discussion

Bill Cosby Sexual Assault Allegations and Necrophilia Tangent

Comedian Bill Cosby faces a new wave of sexual assault lawsuits, including allegations from Judy Huth regarding an incident 40 years ago. The discussion shifts to a dark anecdote involving a rumored "necrophiliac club" in New York City involving Tennessee Williams and Klaus von Bülow, drawing parallels to the Jimmy Savile scandal in the UK.

bill cosby· jimmy savile· klaus von bülow· tennessee williams· necrophilia

44:08 I find it sad. I really find it sad, just sad and the saddest thing is that all these people like you can't have a conversation with anybody anymore. Well this is you know oh so horrible white privilege guilt like the guy from your common core row at to rewrite educational material because I had white privilege And therefore we have to lower the standards for everybody's borderline clip of the month. It's just so... Let's make everything stupid because I had white privilege, this logic is beyond me! It's so sad but i love now how they're bringing the Cosby thing in now and this is going to be very interesting

44:51 Then we have, what is that? How does that fit into it. I think everyone just to blow our heads up. Your brain just implodes. Well no i think its because Cosby is essentially portrayed as a white privileged black. Yeah good point It just accentuates him because he was... You might as well get him out of the way Not that he may have done. We've talked about this, Mimi and I talked about this because it was her thesis about if you're comic you get laid no matter what. So what's the deal? And so it came to mind—I don't want to sound gruesome or a little—I'm going to go a little bit to some people, some listeners, this may be off color but play first let's play this clip Cosby's latest story. Comedian Bill Cosby is facing his first lawsuit resulting from the new wave of allegations over the drugging rape.

45:40 What? Sorry. He's had three lawsuits and he settled out of court. ...and sexual assaults of more than 20 women Plaintiff Judy Huff is suing Cosby for allegedly molesting her 40 years ago when she was 15 years old The suit claims Cosby forced her to perform a sex act on him without her consent Her complaint says the incident has caused quote psychological damage and mental anguish in the decades since it comes one day after Cosby resigned from the board of trustees of Temple University amidst mounting claims from women who have come forward to accuse him of being a sexual predator. And I'm going to, before we go off color so to speak

46:20 It feels to me like this has been planted at this very moment to get this going for the reasons you just said, because Cosby is seen as a white privileged guy. All right over to you. Yeah I sometimes we maybe go overboard with our analysis but i think that's potentially the case. But let's back up and the latest woman, I don't know if it was this one but the one she was on with MSNBC or one of these shows and she was yacking away about the same thing at forced oral sex i guess but then they asked her the question were you drugged

46:55 And, yes. Apparently the main thing that was going on... A lot of this oral sex and all this other stuff which seems to be ancillary just throw it in there I'm not even sure any of that is actually true but the drugging seems to be a consistent pattern. Yes. I woke up in the morning he was taking my panties down putting them up we don't know whatever the case you don't wake up these women were bitching at me about There are a group of people in the world that are necrophiliacs, and there was a book... Of all the things. All right now I'm with you yes Jimmy Savile hit me with it

47:37 Now, there's a lot of people out there that are necro...well Jimmy Savile I don't know if he was a necrophiliac but there is a lot of...in fact it was a discussion... Yes. That was one of the main topics that he went to. Nobody talks about this. You can look it up and deal with in your own time but whatever the case is nobody likes to talk about this. There was a very famous guy who was indicted for killing almost killing his wife with an overdose or something rather insulin I believe And there was a biography written, this is where this comes from. Where I got this concept and Mimi agrees with me and the concept comes from this. There's a book that was in New York City being about to be published went through the lawyers and in the book they accused the guy who kept knocking his wife for a loop and then I guess having sex with her of being a necrophiliac because he was part of a sex club and there were plenty of sex clubs especially in the 70s and 80s in New York

48:30 Before AIDS came along, which ended all these sex clubs. There was a number of open sex clubs and there was a necrophiliac club or maybe more than one. I remember you've talked about this. Yeah. The guy who ran it was Tennessee Williams the playwright This was all in this book. I'm writing this down, hold on what is the name of this book? And why did I find out about this because I had one of the editors of one of the big publishing companies who's a friend of mine to this day tell me that this was the big buzz in the publishing community in New York because every publisher knew about this information but it was kind of like the crazy information you get when you're in the news business or if you're in the publishing business that just doesn't make it into the book because the lawyers say no

49:11 Well, when I thought about the necrophiliac club which was apparently met every Wednesday once a month or something like that at a mortuary. And then they would have the bodies that they thought were appealing lined up and these guys would go at it and its disgusting thing to talk about but It seems to me that Cosby may be...and if anybody's not gonna talk about something, because there is something worse to talk about. If you're going to be like just a rapist, that's one thing but if you're gonna be a necrophiliac the potential for really humiliation is extreme and I don't know, I'm just saying that add two and two and this what it sounds like to me

50:00 No, I have sex with somebody that is it has no resistance whatsoever. Mm-hmm And I think by the way these people who like to roofie women are similar necrophiliacs themselves It's very fairly sick. Yeah, what kind of experience is that we should try it and find out? I'm not gonna Okay, I remember you've told this story on the show before many many years ago about the club About the about the club about the book in the Club boys What does the name of this book do you remember? It was one of the biographies of Klaus von Bülow. Yes! Oh man, it's coming back to me... And I think they offhandedly accused him of being a member. Well there is no proof of any of this and everybody is dead except Von Bülow who is an old man living somewhere out in nowhere. I ran into him once at a... At a club in New York by any chance? Yeah right. I was at some dinner or restaurant and somebody said-and I wasn't really too familiar with this-

50:59 Whoever, I can't remember who it was. Klaus von Bülow sitting right behind you and... Act like you're alive! And I turned right around. What? You did one of those? Just to come back, Jimmy Sable has been accused by Paul Gambaccini who is a fellow BBC radio presenter of being a necrophiliac. And he was in all these hospitals all the time with the kids! He'd be with the kids and then go over to the morgue... It's just the most disgusting imaginable person. A children... God it's not even like borderline crazy if you think about it. Duhh

51:43 Know but anyway, that's that's the that isn't something to discuss and we this is the kind of dinner discussion. We have I love that you say Mimi agrees which means it must Because I need some backup you're not gonna say anything we need a jingle for this necrophilia Just a thought. I think there's probably more of them out there than we'd like to imagine. Boom shakalaka, boom shakalaka, boom shakalaka and boom shakalaka! And with that i'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C... where the c stands for corpse... Dvorak

CHAPTER 13 / 38 Discussion

No Agenda Stream and UTC Watch Discussion

The hosts discuss the technical aspects of their live stream and the utility of UTC time for global broadcasting. A mention is made of a "UTC watch" marketed to travelers, which features dual faces to track multiple time zones simultaneously.

no agenda stream· utc time· dual face watch· aviation· broadcasting

52:20 Oh, very funny. It just came to me Yeah you're a laugh riot Well in the morning to you Adam Curry and also In the morning all of ships that see boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water And all the dames and knights out there And in the morning too The Human Resources who are in the chat room and listening to us on the stream We stream live at NoahJennerStream.com every Thursday and Sunday At 1600 UTC I'm trying to... Are you sure that's right? You got your UTC watch? I sure do. I saw in the plane brochure, the in-flight shopping thing. There was an actual UTC watch! No... For idiots? You had the UTC time and then whatever other time you wanted to set it to a dual but it said... There's a lot of dual face watches, you can set them to anything you want But no, but it said UTC and it was titled a UTC watch that was kind of funny

53:18 I also want to thank all of our artists Baron Nussbaum scored two in a row. Yeah, he did which is fantastic It was short art I mean all of a sudden since the new systems in place we're only getting said what? We used to get like 20 pieces occasionally now we're getting four I think we, it was less. Would some of the artists tell us why they're not submitting out of the blue for unknown reasons? I think it was even...I thought it was three or wasn't even four let me see this is the uh there's four okay pretty sure so Baron Nussbaum had the kind of The Angry Bird this was The Bird Bomb with yes I thought that was a nice piece yeah I pushed for that one because I thought it was hilarious because of the bird bomb reference I liked it a lot cause it was the right bird if you play Angry Birds a lot you recognize that bird

CHAPTER 14 / 38 Discussion

No Agenda Producer Donations and Executive Producer Credits

A segment dedicated to acknowledging financial support from the "No Agenda" community features donations from Sir Chris Bach, Sebastian Lissick, and Sir David Foley. The hosts also promote a minimalist wallet from a Kickstarter campaign and the movie Aftermath, composed and produced by a listener.

donations· crowdfunding· kickstarter· aftermath movie· executive producers

54:02 Do you play Angry Birds a lot? I used to, yeah. And of course... It gets boring after awhile! Yeah, of course. Well we do have a few people to thank for show 4-675. 4. Starting with Chris Eisbach or Sir Chris Bach in Cheshire Connecticut 43210 Listen what i want to say is this The NOAA Agenda Show's the best podcast In the universe right This is a countdown to my 44th birthday, December 5. Sir Chris Back of the No Agenda Brewers Guild and FEMA Region 1." Yes and of course December 5 is also Saint Nicholas Day in the Netherlands which he then shares with The Black Pete's. Ah The Black Pete's... Oh yeah! ...which was also part of the conversation we're currently having Of course! In attempt to create a race war to turn the blacks make sure that blacks stay in the Democrat Party Is that the only thing?

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CHAPTER 15 / 38 Discussion

Vladimir Putin State of the Union and Ukraine Sovereignty Claims

Russian President Vladimir Putin delivered a State of the Union address asserting that the annexation of Crimea was a legitimate act of sovereignty. Putin criticized Western influence in Ukraine and detailed the billions of dollars in financial support and energy discounts Russia provided to the Ukrainian government prior to the conflict.

vladimir putin· russia· crimea· ukraine· gazprom

1:07:23 I held his State of the Union this morning. Okay And, um...I have a little bit of audio if you want to hear it? I can read a bit It's still being transcribed it kind of happened right at the very end there You know not enough time too To really get everything into the show Let me just play this typical Vladimir style Hold on one second where are we Oh did my One of those days He's condemning us again? Here is, here we go. This is about an hour and a half you know so there's a lot to it this of course the translated version. The Russian army is state-of-the-arms. It has military capacity

1:08:12 It is polite, as people say. And we will have enough courage and will if need be. We will continue to stand up for global diversity. We'll continue to bring truth to people across the border so that everybody would see A true image of Russia, undistorted. We will actively promote humanitarian scientific cultural contacts in relations even in a situation when certain governments are trying to erect something like a new iron curtain around Russia." Hmmmm... A lot of this time... State-of-the-arms? This is terrible translator! Yes. State-of-the-arms? Yeah, state-of-the art. Polite!

1:08:57 A couple of things that I'll just read. Before you go there... I just wanted to read a couple of things from this, from his statement. Okay well read it because there's another curious thing taking place at the same time exact same time as this speech. A referendum he talks to his comrades. The referendum was held in Crimea in March in which its residents clearly expressed their desire to join Russia after that the Crimean parliament —it should be stressed— it was a legitimate parliament that was elected back in 2010 adopted a resolution of sovereignty So he's setting the record straight a little bit. Here is the part about... Yeah, that makes a huge difference! No it makes no difference but he did... Of course At least you're hearing it on this show knowing.. You're not going to hear anything about this from anybody else. Now about Ukraine how did it all begin? I will have to remind you what happened back then It's hard to believe that it all started with a technical decision by President Yanukovych

1:09:49 to postpone the signing of the Association Agreement between Ukraine and the European Union. Make no mistake, he did not refuse to sign a document but only postponed it in order to make some adjustments! As you recall this move was fully in line with the constitutional authority vested upon an absolutely legitimate and internationally recognized head-of-state against this background, there was no way we could support this armed coup. The violence and the killings just take the bloody events in Odessa where people were burned alive and no one talks about that anymore." How did this dialogue how did the dialogue on this issue between Russia and its American and European partners Start I mentioned our American friends for reasons since they are always influencing Russia's relations with its neighbors either openly or behind the scenes Sometimes it is even unclear whom to talk to the governments of certain countries or directly with their American patriots patrons and sponsors

1:10:41 kind of calling us out a little bit there. No kidding! Just a little bit... Another thing you only hear on no agenda So what came out, I'm skipping it What came out of all the agreement between Ukraine and the European Union has been signed and ratified but The implementation of the provisions regarding trade and economy has been postponed until the end of the year Doesn't this mean that we were the ones who were actually right all along? What has this actually done for Ukraine in fact the economy finance in the social sector were destroyed And the country ruined And then it goes into some of the money that they've supported Ukraine with and Gazprom. I'll read this for a second, last year let me reiterate that Russian banks already invested some 25 billion dollars in Ukraine last year Russia's finance ministry extended alone worth another three billion dollars

1:11:30 Gazprom provided another $5.5 billion to Ukraine and even offered a discount that no one promised, requiring the country to pay only four-and-a-half billion. Add it all up and you get as much as thirty two and half billion dollars that were provided recently only by Russia For some European countries national pride is long forgotten concept and sovereignty is too much of a luxury true sovereignty for Russia is absolutely necessary for survival There's your revisionist Putin revisionists Russia Now, in the backdrop of this something very interesting happened. There was an announcement...let me just bring this up in my show notes a political announcement in Ukraine which I thought was just hilarious and the new finance minister here name is Natalie Jaresko who is a United States citizen was granted

CHAPTER 16 / 38 Discussion

Ukraine Appoints Foreign Nationals to Top Government Positions

President Petro Poroshenko granted Ukrainian citizenship to three foreign nationals, including American Natalie Jaresko, to serve in high-level government roles. Jaresko, a former State Department official, was named Finance Minister, raising questions about the level of direct U.S. involvement in the Ukrainian administration.

natalie jaresko· petro poroshenko· ukraine· finance minister· usaid

1:12:28 a Ukrainian citizenship overnight to become the finance minister. Well, there's more to it than that if you play the clip Oh yeah, I have a clip... Hold on where is uh which one? Under Ukraine Ah Ukrainian citizenship good The Ukraine president promising Ukrainian citizenship to foreign nationals The president of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko made an astonishing announcement on Twitter on Tuesday, December 2nd. The head of state said he would be granting Ukrainian citizenship to any foreign national coming to Ukraine to fight Russian repression. Nice! Yeah and then of course if you play part two there's a little I think that really kind of the key understanding this And he is already starting to put his words into action

1:13:17 In a second tweet, Petro Poroshenko named three foreign nationals who were given Ukrainian citizenship on Tuesday for services rendered to the country. American woman Natalie Juresko, Lithuanian man Avaras Abramovichus and Alexandra Kivachvili from Georgia weren't just given Ukrainian citizenship they were also appointed to top government positions. Exactly. My interpretation of this is that the Ukrainian system is still so corrupt Yeah, if they can't trust Ukrainians for any of these jobs And there's just letting these people come in from the outside and of course They bring a Georgian in mm-hmm which I think it's kind of telling because that's what you do But I don't know who this guy is I'd like to look him up I just got this clip So I didn't get to do that but when he had to do with the Russian Georgia You know kind of

1:14:08 conflagration that took place. Conflagration. I can tell you about Natalie Jaresko, managing a founding partner Horizon Capital she is now the finance minister with an overnight citizenship they have 280 million not a big small fund actually but she's a member of the US Ukraine Business Council USUBC who do you think funds that outfit? State Department USAID close enough So this is it's crazy. It's so obvious what's going on Hey, we're gonna put our guys in yeah State Department never then that all that money the Russians loan them is going into our wallet Yeah, hey John good work Putin. Thanks John are we good or what? Oh, yeah with the best There's always ends up being rubble at the end of day Of course, but doesn't you know

CHAPTER 17 / 38 Discussion

South Stream Pipeline Cancellation and Turkish Gas Hub Shift

Russia announced the cancellation of the South Stream pipeline through Bulgaria, opting instead to build a gas hub in Turkey. This strategic shift by Gazprom and President Putin positions Turkey as a primary energy transit point for the European Union, potentially bypassing EU regulatory hurdles.

south stream· gazprom· turkey· vladimir putin· recep tayyip erdogan

1:15:05 It's, you know...it was gonna be that way anyway. I think it'd be the way to think about it. It's gonna end up that way anyway." Yeah. Of course the big news coming out of Ukraine and Russia is the surprising announcement to stop the South Stream pipeline and the switcheroo now moving into Turkey. This is a very, very interesting development And of course we talk a lot about or certainly have talked a lot about pipelines It's one of my hobbies and you really have to do want to look at a map I have a map actually for you if you want a map. I got a good map go to itm.im slash What did I put this under?

1:15:58 You'd think it would be map hold on here. I got all the ones who had so Foley kids Cadence director Ebola kid that's not a buffer no No, it's a new one new one having you know what assume is we just why can't I'm? Drawing and um some I'm not doing well today. I told us because of the Tuesday show it sucks That's what this is every show would be like this oh If we did three shows a week you mean? Yeah, the three shows a week thing was not a good idea. Not a good idea. Let me see... itm.img... let's see if my browser remembers what it was Well there ya go! There ya go I really don't remember what that was

1:16:42 Well, okay. Tell us then... It's a good thing you have to see the pipelines that was going from Russia through the Caspian Sea and to Black Sea to the south of Crimea instead of hitting land in Bulgaria now you recall we were talking about Bulgaria has all kinds of crap going on there are the ones that were told by the EU you better not have that South Stream coming on shore through your country. And we were looking at some possible regime change, they had to close the banks for three days all kinds of little things were taking place so that has now been killed and all they're doing now is going straight down with the...there'll be the same pipeline just instead of turning westward into Bulgaria it's gonna go straight down into Turkey and will then enter the European Union via Greece

1:17:33 Which as you know, the Russians bought up a lot of those assets when Greece was pretty much... Broke. Yeah. When they were up for sale! Right? So this is still going to help the gas get into Europe but I think really the EU is the big... Now we gotta see this map find it! Okay yeah maybe I can just give you a link So there's a long clip I can play in the meantime. I don't know how, let me just see if it's further down here...I can give you a link to it hold on..I think maybe not sorry John I just don't have it! I put it in there and made a short URL shortener and I just can't find it but you can go look for South Stream Pipeline Map How about South Stream Pipeline Redirected?

1:18:32 I don't know about that. Let me continue, the original pipelines that was going through the Black Sea coming short in Bulgaria that got thwarted by the EU so now they're looking at a Turkish gas hub and this is what is happening now with... So Erdogan had a meeting with Putin and he's talking a lot of crap really! The BOTAS which is the Turkish owned crude oil and gas transit and trading company Had cut a deal with Gazprom, and this is kind of funny the way they did that said okay We'll have a new pipeline going into Turkey gas the Turkish gas hub And it will carry 63 billion cubic meters of gas annually which it's gonna be called the blue stream North Stream South Stream Blue Stream Okay, and That of course is the exact same

1:19:28 amount of capacity that the South Stream was supposed to carry. Oh wait, I take it back... It's not the Blue Stream. ...another pipeline south of the new South Stream? No. Now here is what is competing The US is competing. We have a couple of ways to work this one, we have the Leviathan field in the Mediterranean which of course Noble Energy is developing on behalf of Israel and they're building the pipeline up either Cyprus and or into Italy so will win on that then there's the trans Adriatic pipeline This is Azerbaijan to Italy via the Balkans

CHAPTER 18 / 38 Discussion

Turkey Considers Joining the Shanghai Cooperation Organization

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan suggested that Turkey might abandon its bid for European Union membership in favor of joining the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO). Erdogan noted that the "Shanghai Five" shares more common values with Turkey, a move that would significantly alter NATO's geopolitical standing in the region.

sco· turkey· erdogan· nato· european union

1:20:10 So it's really going to be a race, but the funny thing is Europe gets completely screwed in this deal. Completely! How's that? Pfft... how's that?! Because now you have another player in the middle and you've got Turkey in the middle! And here are some of things- Yeah and it's gonna be pretty hard to bomb the pipeline while it's in Turkey Oh yeah Let me give you some of the words that Erdogan has been using. He's talking big game there, let's see how we have it here... Okay so Erdogan made a joke with what he was doing this announcement with Putin he said hey you know um what we'd like to do is join the Shanghai Cooperative Organization

1:21:05 You know, if you'd let us in there we don't need the West. And he said it kind of off-handedly like a joke He said the Shanghai Five is better and more powerful than the West and we have common values with them And this of course is not much of a joke it seems to me. Well, it's reported as a joke You know wink-wink gonna start seeing some interesting situations I think some regime change is in order and forget we tried this once with air to one but that event the park to try To tear down a park and then I say you know the whole country's on fire So we tried and then everyone got

1:21:44 Rousted all the troublemakers. Yeah, and in the process of course he's also took side with Isis ISIL Mm-hmm. It's the West also He's again. I think it's like a Hugo Chavez as he seen the light mm-hmm or the danger of working with us and I think he's gonna yeah Saddle up at the Russians this is interesting this will change Geopolitics in that region. Big time! To an extreme. And by coincidence last night the US Embassy in Ankara said it had received reports that extremist groups may be planning an attack against a Syrian opposition group in southeastern Turkic city of Gaziantep. So this is what you get, if you don't play ball with us, you get like terrorist attacks

1:22:29 You know, shitty things start to happen to you. Things happen! But keep your eye on the Shanghai Cooperation Organization we've talked about these guys before they are more than just a drinking club Putin said we will ask Turkey what they can do they have great experience in EU talks. Now Turkey will never be in the EU but to have a NATO member Jump into bed with Putin while all this is taking place. This has got to be a nightmare, it's gotta be a problem! In January Erdogan said if we get into the SCO, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization... you should look this up, we've talked about before If we get into the SCO we will say goodbye to the European Union

1:23:20 And that's where he said, the Shanghai Five is better. Much more powerful Pakistan wants in India wants in as well if the SEO wants us all of us will become members of this organization and we have common values with them This isn't chicken shit language. Common values? He's talking about China sell stuff to China That would be the common value Yeah Wait a minute Now it's embarrassing because this actually is something we could have caught Last year. We've been talking about this whole thing continuously that Turkey is going to be the hub. Yes, we talked about the SEO specifically. Turkey renews plea as he renewed the plea in December to join last December 13th

1:24:07 During a trip to Russia, Turkey's prime minister once again said that Ankara would abandon its quest to join. This is...okay I think we saw this as just putting pressure on the EU to get in. They're never gonna get in the EU. The EU was crazy! NATO was nuts to have these guys but they need them for flyover purposes. I mean the big deal about Turkey is fly over you got to fly over turkey did just about do anything in the Middle East We've talked about, let's see... Well we could have talked about it but it's beside the point. We're talking about it now. So if they're going to be the gas hub and their main mission is to sell to the Chinese but they will now be that the chokehold for the gas to the EU then come on!

1:24:56 And of course, you can be sure that... Yeah. Regime change as you pointed out is going to buy the gas from us but you also must buy a rug! I'll write that down. Good one. So i think this is not insignificant in the grand scheme of things it's actually mind-boggling But what's Putin supposed to do? I think he made a brilliant decision here. Brilliant! And now of course we don't need any of these, we were looking at Hungary because Hungary was also a possible connection. Yeah it gets all these guys off the hook. It was a possible connection. So screws them out for whatever money they can make for transport fees and right-of-ways. Oh yeah.

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Global Energy Competition and Russian Ruble Devaluation

As Israel develops the Leviathan gas field to compete for the European market, Russia faces economic pressure from a tumbling ruble. Reports from Murmansk indicate that local service prices, including those for prostitutes, have risen by 40% to compensate for the currency's devaluation, which some attribute to Western market manipulation.

leviathan field· nord stream· ruble· murmansk· inflation

1:25:56 Yeah, I find it kind of nice. I find it interesting to watch we knew that something was going to happen with Turkey and you know the only thing our guy Gulen failed trying to overturn everything well he's not dead no that's the only thing that's left is so there was always another possibility and there's also what else do we have yeah? I think that's about oh...that's about it Israel sees stars aligned for new gas pipelines to Europe. That of course is the Leviathan, everyone's going to be building lickety-split to get stuff up as quick as possible but really nothing can compete and of course in the catbird seat is Angola who has the North Stream pipeline which I believe... how many it says? Like 40 billion cubic meters annually

1:26:45 And she can put that onto her own network of grid and start reverse flowing that into Europe. But look at the Nord Stream capacity. The Nord Stream is 55. It's almost the same as the South Stream. They're looking 63. Yeah, it's a lot. It's going to be a cold winter people! We'll just keep our eye on it... I love this pipeline stuff. Well, it does explain a lot. The only bad news in all of this is the report from the BBC... Let me get the report up here. This is because of all this pressure on Russia and sanctions

1:27:36 Prostitutes in the Russian Arctic port of Murmansk have unexpectedly hiked prices for their services by up to 40% blaming the tumbling ruble exchange rate for their decision. Oh yeah, well the ruble goes down and the prices of hookers go up. But do they get better looking? That's that's the main question Yeah there are a lot of people readjusting their prices because they're falling rubles so you what was I talked about this on DHN plug this has got to be an investment opportunity at some point In hookers Now, you well hookers that's a tough investment because you have to be a pimp to make it work But no in the Russian economy right cuz this being if this is artificial. This is an artificial Depression of the ruble this is not natural and it can't last they were us meddling No It can't last now. It's just us meddling and managing to do as almost as though we're investing who knows I

1:28:31 Whatever the case, it's fishy. By the way Turkey's inflation rate is now over 9% You remember that they had to do all this crazy stuff to save the lira like a year ago? No Yeah Turkeys I think it's the lira I think they use yeah, I know that but I don't know what you're telling me That they were doing crazy things to Remember it okay, okay turkey If the Lira was being so depressed by external forces that they had to raise the interest rate to an astronomical level. Let me see... External forces, huh? Wonder who that could be! Yeah let's see if I can find the story

1:29:17 interest rate makes massive, this was January 28th 2014. Turkish Central Bank makes massive rate hikes to stem lira fall overnight lending rate went from 7.75% to 12%. And that was when we were trying to pressure I guess we were trying to pressure them financially and it's no secret i think that you know the Erdogan loves the idea of the new Ottoman Empire And this, and being the gas hub is really a good part of the strategy. Well, rebelization will follow. I can assure you. Be very sad if they rebelize. Keep an eye on that. That'll be fun to watch. Yeah. So I guess your little thing...I'm putting an X next to your Red Book prognostication about droopy dog getting in as Secretary of Defense

CHAPTER 20 / 38 Discussion

Ashton Carter Nominated for Secretary of Defense

President Obama is set to nominate Ashton Carter to replace Chuck Hagel as Secretary of Defense. While Carter is the primary candidate, Senator John McCain has expressed skepticism, and the Pentagon continues to deploy A-10 Warthog jets to the Middle East despite ongoing budget debates.

ashton carter· barack obama· chuck hagel· john mccain· pentagon

1:30:27 Oh, yes. Officials have confirmed President Obama will nominate Ashton Carter as the next Secretary of Defense replacing Chuck Hagel an announcement will come after the official vetting process is complete but Carter said to be the only candidate left after two others withdrew from consideration okay just because that is the rumored selection Which may be very true. Have you seen this guy? This, well yeah he's the uh... He's a deputy Yeah he's a dweeb So this guy will not get through McCain has already announced he wants Lindsey Graham I don't have an audio clip Oh I didn't hear this Now ya got me now You're one up on me today Lindsey Graham?! Uh huh I'm sorry no I'm sorry No I'm sorry Lieberman I didn't mean Lindsey Graham My mistake Why who? Lieberman I'm sorry Not Lindsey Graham Oh they said Lindsey Graham No no I said that wrong

1:31:20 Here it is. Okay, well then now you're back down to minus one for trying to fool me. Senator John McCain... Let's see I said Lieberman, McCain told our sources as he got off the Amtrak Acela from Washington to New York. McCain laughed and said McDonough thanked him for his input but that McCain did not think his close pal the former senator from Connecticut a Democrat turned independent would be considered for the job until we'll see. Which was all they're going to put to keep the warthog in play. The Pentagon is deploying 300 airmen and 12 A-10 Warthog combat jets to the Mideast in early October, according to the Indiana Air National Guard. This six month deployment from the 122nd fighter unit is not specifically part of President Obama's fight against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria but

1:32:27 But the airmen and the jets could help troops on the ground to rout ISIS. I love the route, i love this route So, that's good. A lot of senators and congressmen...they made their money on that one. John Maass military industrial complex is going to get a break also with the Iranian situation because it was seems to be code in this message I have here little code about something we might be able to sell sell Iran as they bomb, unofficially bomb Iraq. Allies gathered in Brussels today to plot strategy against Islamic State extremists. Diplomats from more than 60 nations and organizations met at NATO headquarters. Secretary of state John Kerry said air attacks have already done serious damage to Islamic State fighters. We are united

CHAPTER 21 / 38 Discussion

Coalition Strategy Against Islamic State and Iranian Airstrikes

Secretary of State John Kerry met with diplomats from 60 nations to coordinate the campaign against the Islamic State. Reports indicate that Iran has also conducted airstrikes against ISIS targets in Iraq using aging F-4 Phantom jets, though the Pentagon has declined to officially confirm direct coordination with Tehran.

john kerry· isis· iran· f-4 phantom· iraq

1:31:20 Here it is. Okay, well then now you're back down to minus one for trying to fool me. Senator John McCain... Let's see I said Lieberman, McCain told our sources as he got off the Amtrak Acela from Washington to New York. McCain laughed and said McDonough thanked him for his input but that McCain did not think his close pal the former senator from Connecticut a Democrat turned independent would be considered for the job until we'll see. Which was all they're going to put to keep the warthog in play. The Pentagon is deploying 300 airmen and 12 A-10 Warthog combat jets to the Mideast in early October, according to the Indiana Air National Guard. This six month deployment from the 122nd fighter unit is not specifically part of President Obama's fight against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria but

1:32:27 But the airmen and the jets could help troops on the ground to rout ISIS. I love the route, i love this route So, that's good. A lot of senators and congressmen...they made their money on that one. John Maass military industrial complex is going to get a break also with the Iranian situation because it was seems to be code in this message I have here little code about something we might be able to sell sell Iran as they bomb, unofficially bomb Iraq. Allies gathered in Brussels today to plot strategy against Islamic State extremists. Diplomats from more than 60 nations and organizations met at NATO headquarters. Secretary of state John Kerry said air attacks have already done serious damage to Islamic State fighters. We are united

1:33:20 and moving ahead on all fronts, and that we will engage in this campaign for as long as it takes to prevail. And there's a reason that we are confident that we will – and that is all of you around this table – the members of this coalition. Kerry declined to comment or deny reports that Iran is also carrying out airstrikes against Islamic State forces inside Iraq. Iran issued its own denial today of those air strike reports unnamed Pentagon officials had said that Iran used aging F-4 Phantom jets to launch the raids in recent days

1:33:59 We can sell them some f-22s. They got some aging jets Replacing time for a sales job boys get on the stick Aging jet aging Jets yeah, aging Jets you guys are idiots it gets up new jets So transparent all of this isn't just love it now This is something that um I? I don't know if we talked about it on our Christmas show or the previous show, but anyway. I brought the clip for us. The warning today was the strongest of its kind to date aimed directly at the 1 million uniformed military personnel with a very visible presence across the US. You just never know

CHAPTER 22 / 38 Discussion

FBI Warns Military Personnel of ISIS Social Media Targeting

The FBI and Department of Homeland Security issued a bulletin warning U.S. military personnel that ISIS supporters are monitoring social media to identify targets for domestic attacks. Soldiers have been advised to scrub their Facebook profiles of family photos and location data to mitigate the threat of "information mining."

fbi· homeland security· isis· social media· military safety

1:34:43 who's out there watching or hacking. In its bulletin, the FBI and Homeland Security say ISIS is currently spotting and assessing individuals in the U.S., who could carry out attacks against soldiers a much more serious threat than it standard call to jihad This sounds like it's much more specific It's organized There's our buddy Clark And there's our man A former Homeland Security And talking to Clark is a CIA guy now Richard Clark wasn't in DHS as well. I don't think so hmm ISIS is choosing the attackers and probably choosing the targets. Members of the military are being told to scrub their Facebook and social media sites for any information or family pictures that could make them targets, or provide their location. Information mining is a real threat. This video produced by the Air Force last year highlighted the vulnerabilities. A geotagged picture from foreign airfield? A post counting days until next deployment...

1:35:40 This is an environment that this particular enemy has proven adept at using and we don't want to give them any more advantage than they're already trying to gain. That's Kirby, the twerp Kirby. And by the way Richard Clark special advisor to the National Security Council Chairman of the Counterterrorism Security Group Assistant Secretary of State for Political Military Affairs Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Intelligence No CIA it was Richard Clark man That guy. And this FBI warning comes in the wake of two separate and deadly attacks in Canada, I suppose it ISIS followers targeting uniformed soldiers there There is no indication of a specific threat or target? I love that So this whole thing everyone's talking up a storm Oh they're planning... They got nothing! The sharp uptick and the number of Americans caught supporting Isis now has to full attention on the FBI and the Pentagon David Bull crap

1:36:35 It's scary buddy. Oh, take your flags off don't don't doh boo Scrub your Facebook be a very afraid American soldiers be very afraid and you're family this our own government Yeah I know I know So there are own government is telling our own soldiers to be afraid our power in the corner Yes, power in place yeah, I know it's just disgusting no They should wear more badges and say, come on. Come on off fight you give me a chop your head off. Yes son of a bitch. No no cower this is an insult to the American soldier yeah he's trained And there's any supposed to cower and be ashamed of himself and not where the American flag are you kidding me? What is wrong with these people? Yeah well

CHAPTER 23 / 38 Discussion

Disappearance of the Khorasan Group from News Cycles

The Khorasan Group, once described by intelligence officials as a high-profile terror threat in Syria, has largely disappeared from media coverage. Analysts suggest the group may have been a short-lived propaganda construct or a botched intelligence operation that was subsequently "swept under the rug."

khorasan group· syria· intelligence· propaganda· wikipedia

1:37:29 And I'm surprised, this is as far as i'm concerned inexcusable. Looking a bit at the foreign terrorist organizations you remember that group the Corazon Group? Oh, yeah. That was a short-lived...the worst thing ever! Yeah well then no they're still around but I know but there were short lived in terms of high profile public relations news stories have never been on the list of foreign terrorist organizations They never existed before like months ago Well their wiki page was created the minute they were apparently taken out

1:38:11 Yeah, I don't know what the point. I think that was a The Corazon group looking back on it on that whole episode. I believe was a botched operation of some sort that has been just swept under the rug That's why we don't hear about it anymore. Very possible there was something up they were doing something They had a plan they were gonna do something crazy and it was gonna get the public all worked up and something fell apart And some mechanism didn't work Some guy killed himself or who knows what? The next thing you know, it's like shh forget that even happened then that wiki page will disappear I've been hearing a lot on On NPR about the World Food Program

CHAPTER 24 / 38 Discussion

World Food Program Funding Shortage and Syrian Refugee Debit Cards

The World Food Program announced a suspension of aid to 1.7 million Syrian refugees due to a lack of funding from donor nations. In a surprising revelation, refugees in camps like Zaatari use prepaid WFP debit cards at Safeway-branded stores, highlighting a corporate-integrated model of international disaster relief.

world food program· syria· refugees· safeway· debit cards

1:38:54 which has always been involved in controversy and scammage. They now say that they're out of money, and therefore they cannot support 1.7 million Syrians with food I don't understand how this happens. Yeah, i know this is one of the we will actually the entire family here Is baffled by this story and then they have...I don't have a clip unfortunately but I also understand The way the story goes because they did play it up a little bit on on the news hour It's The basis is we're giving this food away to these people and we're gonna stop, this is the way I'm seeing it overall. We're gonna stop because we're out of money not because we are actually out of money but because the people who pledged

1:39:42 to pay for this crap, haven't actually come through. Stop paying or they didn't pay us! Right And then they never called... by the way when this was brought up on the news story they never called out the countries but I believe it would be France Germany Switzerland Great Britain United States you know a bunch of countries that oh yeah we're gonna take care these refugees is terrible problem and i also think that Saudi Arabia Qatar Bahrain and these other guys also promised money, and they didn't deliver it. And so the UN just said we're stopping until you give us the damn money you promised." That's my take on it. And here's the funny thing how this works because I was listening to a report...I should have clipped that crap. The guy was talking about how it worked

1:40:30 And he said, you know the minute we get money into the program we can distribute this to 1.7 million Syrian refugees almost immediately and the way it works is people have a debit card And the debit card is then charged up with the money so they can go and buy food from the local vendors. Yes, I know that! Yeah i'm thinking like bread and soup lines and stuff... I have this whole vision of a ball man we gotta get these stores... They've got a debit card! Yeah they've got a visa yeah I know it's surreal. Yeah that's more than surreal. A debit card

1:41:15 Safeway. At the new Safeway store in the Zaatari refugee camp in northern Jordan, the Syrian cashiers wear bright blue tabards that read here to help you no need for cash! The shop accepts World Food Program prepaid debit cards. Safeway! What a scam! Are you kidding me? That I didn't know. I could have a good, that's probably your drive through. I got to have big Mac and get my, uh, I got my card right here and this transaction fees on that puppy making money everywhere. Oh yeah. They're making money off the, off the refugees. How can we make money off of refugees? Wow. That's great. Hey Angelina Jolie, good work

1:42:11 Isn't she the high representative for refugees? I guess she is. She probably gets a piece of the action, if not, you should safe way with debit cards. What happened to the safe member, the Safeway employees and they all chipped in and we flew a cargo plane and the employees got trucks and we went over to the to the refugees and we handed out bread and chocolate. I left that to Victoria Newland here kids, i just find that disturbing. NPR is going after the American Red Cross which is a little belated yeah really really for this woman CEO Gail McGovern for uh

CHAPTER 25 / 38 Discussion

American Red Cross Financial Transparency and Blood Sales

The American Red Cross and its CEO Gail McGovern are facing criticism over the lack of transparency regarding where donation money is allocated. Reports indicate the organization runs a $2.2 billion business selling donated blood, while recent high-profile fundraising for Ebola relief has shown little evidence of direct impact.

red cross· gail mcgovern· blood donation· ebola· fundraising

1:42:59 essentially lying about where the money goes. Yeah, they package it all up and then they put...they hand it out however they feel is appropriate. This is going on in Europe as well this Red Cross. They're doing a 2.2 billion dollar business in blood you donate the blood to them they sell it! They sell it yeah people don't know that Well they should In The Netherlands I think maybe its headquarters of the European Red Cross And people don't understand that, you know, when you give money to the Red Cross it's not like your money goes dollar for dollar and to these poor people. You're seeing on the telethon and just goes into their coffers and they divide it up how they feel is appropriate in that Ebola stuff didn't really go anywhere did it? Not yet No, we had Google and Facebook and all of those things. But I think there was a lot more going on than what we've seen so far.

1:43:58 Right on the homepage of Google, they were doing a matching campaign for Ebola. The Netherlands had it... They showed some blood-soaked eyeballs I think they could have done better. Much better, I agree. So i'm watching the Japanese news and this one was actually kind of baffling because they played this as though the hydrogen cars are new or something, because if you remember when we first started doing this show seven years ago. The Hydro Booster? I had driven a bunch of hydrogen cars, fuel cell cars let's put it that way and I didn't like them because then I noticed with these cars it sounds the same to me which is they scream when you drive them and if you drive really fast they scream louder because of their nature. The fuel cells just makes a screaming sound. What do you mean like a

CHAPTER 26 / 38 Discussion

Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car Launch and Infrastructure Costs

Toyota unveiled the Mirai, a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle marketed as the "future" of eco-friendly transportation. However, the high cost of refueling stations—estimated at $4.3 million each—poses a significant barrier to the widespread adoption of a hydrogen-based automotive economy.

toyota mirai· hydrogen fuel cell· akio toyoda· green energy· infrastructure

1:44:46 Really like a high-pitched whine. Yeah, like this and it gets on your nerves. It'll be a non starter for me Yeah, well I think if there are the streets were covered with them it would be really annoying But anyway so Toyota's decided to go ahead now You got two little clips here And one of them is long in one short that short one Is the one that's the giveaway why this is never gonna fly? but let's play the hydrogen all of us on Toyotas decided hydrogen cars are gonna be so important they're actually going for the all these other guys have been fooling around. Toyota's gonna sell them and so they're going to sell 400 of them, and they're going to restructure the whole economy around these cars supposedly but hey we play the clip. The greenest eco vehicle ever developed. Toyota's hopes for the fuel cell car are reflected in the name Mirai is Japanese for future. We couldn't think of any other name that's more appropriate for our new car

1:45:42 The four-seater sedan can run about 650 kilometers on one tank of fuel. The price is $62,000 this will come down to around 45 thousand dollars thanks to the government's eco car subsidy The fuel cell vehicle runs on hydrogen. The gas is piped to the fuel cell where it's mixed with oxygen that creates electricity which powers the car. The cars only emission is water, developers call it the ultimate eco-car What is the point of this? They're doing this now. What do you think is going on?

1:46:43 I think the guy that runs Toyota, Mr. Toyoda is nuts! I've always thought he was... when he took over the place it was just and then he has a name Toyodah by coincidence with a D And they had him talking about how we're gonna have a hydrogen economy, all this stuff that we heard about. I don't know eight years ago was big talk about this then everyone...shh quiet because I remember George Bush it was during the Bush administration and there were shhh don't say anything about it anymore because this is bull crap never gonna fly and This guy's talking to the design cut a lot of stuff out and he's yakkin' about their hydrogen economies wearing a helmet

1:47:21 like a race car helmet while he's talking and they have, they've solved the problem with the freezing of all the rest. But then the real to me was the one that was white. What are you kidding? Me who is going to do this part two of the clip gives it away where this will never fly. Cheating. That goal will be construction of hydrogen refueling stations when station costs $4.3 million Yeah, that seems like a non-starter right there. Yeah, it's like a couple hundred thousand maybe three hundred thousand to build the gas station It was something interesting That was I read it on hot rod atomic Adams blog about this company called transatomic power the startup They got a couple million dollars if they have a design which surprisingly dates back think 1925 or something of a small nuclear reactor

CHAPTER 27 / 38 Discussion

Transatomic Power and Waste Annihilating Molten Salt Reactors

A startup called Transatomic Power is developing a Waste Annihilating Molten Salt Reactor (WAMSR) designed to generate electricity by consuming high-level nuclear waste. While the design could theoretically reduce waste volume to the size of a grapefruit, experts like Rod Adams note that such innovations face opposition from established fossil fuel interests.

transatomic power· nuclear waste· molten salt reactor· rod adams· green energy

1:48:15 that eats waste from other reactors. And well, here's a clip of one of the co-founders... Of course they have nothing and they have little money and a development budget and probably won't go anywhere but surprisingly she was on GPS that's the anti constitutional douchebag known as Fareed Zakaria Who was surprisingly kind to her. So you have to question why that was taking place, here's a clip from that interview. What are the problems that you were trying to solve? So each conventional nuclear power plant in the US today produces about 20 metric tons of high-level waste that's radioactive for hundreds of thousands of years. And there isn't really a solution for it yet." Until now, perhaps. Using a design that was invented 50 years ago they created the Waste Annihilating Molten Salt Reactor. Ooh! The Waste Annihilating Molten Salt Reactor? Or WAMSR. WAMSR?!

1:49:13 We gotta get bumper stickers. I love a Whamzer the whamser uses molten salt to dissolve nuclear fuel that ultimately reduces both the radioactivity and the amount of waste their new reactor could create just 10 to 20 kilograms of long-lived waste per year instead of the twenty metric tons produced by a traditional commercial plant 20 kilograms of waste is about the size of a grapefruit. And the remaining waste that comes out, it's waste that's radioactive for just a few hundred years so much shorter than hundreds and thousands of years from other plants. Here is another big plus around the world today there exist about 270 thousand metric tons of high level nuclear waste WAMSA could eat that waste and turn into electricity

1:50:04 So, this sounds great. Why wouldn't everybody adopt this design? That's what we're hoping ultimately Is it more expensive is your plan more expensive We...it's actually about half the cost per megawatt overnight construction of conventional nuclear reactors and that makes it we can be on par with coal and we're trying to reduce the cost further to make it on par with natural gas This sounds like a revolution We should be all over this. What did Rod Adams say about it in the newsletter? He, well he's the one that pointed out he's always been telling us about these backyard nukes this small stuff that can eat its own waste... This has been his consistent message

1:50:46 And he actually sent me an email and said, just so you know the World Bank released their annual study of energy. There's exactly one little itty bitty article about one small reactor this is not in anyone's interest except oh the people But it's not in the interest of gas and oil and coal. Because once you have this, there is not a lot of money to be made unless you want to make the cost of the actual electricity astronomically expensive. And by the way we're seeing now multiple states...now that we have the petrol prices low extremely low now in the US they say oh let's add 15 cents extra tax! You see this happening?

CHAPTER 28 / 38 Discussion

Chernobyl Documentary Pandora's Promise and Public Apathy

The documentary Pandora's Promise explores the reality of the Chernobyl exclusion zone and advocates for nuclear energy. Despite the film's significant subject matter, screenings have reportedly seen very low attendance, reflecting a general public apathy toward complex energy and environmental issues.

chernobyl· pandora's promise· stuart brand· nuclear energy· documentary

1:51:32 Yeah, douchebags. Exactly! And when I was a kid it was 25 cents. Exactly. 60 Minutes did a big propaganda piece on Chernobyl which I remind everybody is in Ukraine... Never mentioned in these articles. About an hour and half north of Kiev and wow It's just you know, oh, it's horrible You couldn't live there people are dying I encourage you to look at the documentary Pandora's Promise where they go to Chernobyl as well and have a very different experience. It just... Didn't you go see that movie in the theater? Yeah, it was Mickey and me and no one else! Wait a minute let me get this straight so you went to a theater to watch a movie about a documentary i guess yes about

1:52:27 Stuart Brand. And there was nobody interested, even interested enough to go see the movie except you. Or worse, the Bling Ring movie was in theater A and that was packed. Yeah, there you go. But it's a... It summarizes the state of affairs in the United States in terms of public care Yeah, well it's important to keep pointing it out.

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No Agenda Donation Segment and New "Presents" Title Tier

The hosts acknowledge a wide range of donations, including a report from a listener in Singapore regarding "slave cards" and a gift of Energel pens. A new "Instant Knight" tier is introduced for the upcoming 12/13/14 show date, allowing top donors to have their names included in the official episode title.

crowdfunding· singapore· energel pens· instant knight· podcasting

1:53:17 And, curiously right after his donation came little Jay's donation from St. Paul Minnesota nuts 1 2 3 4 5 very nice and he Said here in some of mac and cheese sir Swiss Senna in Switzerland Suisse One two three four five it's a good number And we'll give him some job karma at the end of the segment. Chris Facer in Auburn, New South Wales Australia $111. Thank you for your hours of entertainment Javier Vasquez in San Diego $100

1:54:02 Sir Stu Coates in Chelmsford, Essex 8733. We have the Jew as a donation of Mark the 87th birthday of it Did you he's not on them? You put uncle Don on the birthday list My Uncle Don that's what it says here I didn't know, maybe i did know it was Uncle Don's birthday actually. Well you should put him on the list! I think he is on there let me see... No he's not It says Sir Stu Coates is 87 tomorrow that would be Uncle Don is 87 tomorrow Yes Okay Wow

1:54:40 Yeah, Stu Coates could be 87. He gave $8733. I'm looking at the note it looks like he's saying in honor of... You can look him up on the Wikipedia Uncle Don is in there. He has got his birthday. Anastasia Perov in Mississauga Ontario Canada $75. We'll put a de-douching at the end. Steve Aness in Parts Unknown, 7373. Peter Tangney in...7373 by the way, 73 is to you. Peter Tangney in Randolph, Massachusetts, 6969. Eric Bird in Baltimore, Maryland 6789.

1:55:21 They sent you some sort of a note. Yeah, he sent me a clip and he thinks it was hilarious It was okay Wasn't all that great James Shea in Brewston Mills West Virginia your old stomping ground 6750 He says the show just keeps getting better Mason Possing in Singapore, now this is not to do with the read because it's a Singaporean I called out. In the last show 5566 ITM, I've listened to the show for six months now and finally decided to get up and donate after John's comment about not having listeners in Singapore you have at least one report from Singapore this country is all-in on the visa pay wave

1:56:02 Cash is going out of style as everyone is waving their slave cards like the media tells them to. Thank you for your deconstruction, especially on the months of this Ferguson story You were spot-on and giving me loads to say to those who asked me about it I would like to be deduced from my six months of boring and boning My six months of boning And call out my father Dennis who hit me in the mouth as a douchebag Yeah We were waiting. No, he was hitting them out as a... Oh he's calling him out is a douchebag. Misunderstood! Yeah I think you're doing something else You've been listening for six months or six years? Six years?! His dad has been listening for 6 year and never donated. That's where you get the douche bag. I would say yeah double douche bag If your poor college son can donate

1:56:53 So can you. If it's not too much like a Koch brothers shout and anything else John wants, that's fine. KOCH BROTHERS! You are so quick to ridicule that I'm doing something else. I'm sorry No, I'm always doing something else. I'm looking stuff up I'm trying to keep up with what you're telling me and I'm looking things up So sometimes you look something up you know, it's not my was actually having problems scrolling down to where you were on the spreadsheet That was my problem It's a technical nightmare day it happens from time to time it happens Nick Barnes North Carolina North Anton Ohio 5555 Kevin Dills, the double nickels on the dime. Charlotte North Carolina Jesse Simone in double nickels on the dime in parts unknown. Stuart Rushing and Corvallis Oregon double nickels on the dimes double nickels on the diamond day. Carolyn Life again who sent a note and I think saying something was short short. Oh yeah she was going on about how damn it. Yeah I bring the note over and the whole thing

1:57:57 And then of course I got piles of paper and it ends up lost. I can't believe this, hold on a second... How could it get lost? Oh here we go! No that's not it either huh well anyway oh here it is geez she sent in a she's actually kind of interesting It's only 55, but she sent in a handwritten note and it's on a card that she manufactured herself from one of her photographs. And we encourage this kind of behavior and will gladly read your note if you write it out longhand She sent me two Energel pens

1:58:36 which she uses the right by hand more than she used to because they're so much fun to use. Okay, I got the pens and wanted a report back these are not the smoothest rolling pens that ever had by any means So i don't want to say anything bad about the Energel pens but... I'm not..I've had...I'll get you the name of ones that I like which I think are smoother rolling Anyway, she says that I once met me a twit ahead of no agenda. Challenge coin you did not shame on me and still owe me a drink. Damn it! And she's out front right now waiting for that drink. Adam's deconstruction is great in the morning Carolyn. All right onward Sir Davis Durrell in Odessa Texas. I'm waiting for Odessa Ukraine 5432 Ksenia Tshishutina

1:59:29 I'm guessing. This is the, uh... Is this the Russian who wanted to donate per segment? I don't know. Yeah because today one dollar is Oh it's a ruble thing One dollar is 51 point 63 rubles and that's why it's a 5163 donation from Brooklyn Okay this as good of logic as any Dennis Cruz in Beaverton Oregon donated today Unemployment finally paid! Nice You said something about we put him to give another karma at the end here. Of course, we got... Dane Coleman, Dayton Ohio 5033 and the rest of these are $50 donations from the following Adam Beck in Tempe Arizona Matthew Januszewski in Chicago Illinois Chris Terreheart in Abbotsford BC Stephen Milliken in Corpus Christi Texas Dustin Martin in Salem Oregon

2:00:31 Judy Schwartz in Bern, Texas. Bernie. Bernie? Yes. B-E-R-N-E is Bernie's local pronunciation. Nobody in their right mind would call it that instead of the local. It's a German Texas town we got a lot of Germans uh in Texas huh anyway Bernie The Schlitterbahn Anonymous lesbian from parts unknown Brian Navarro, Los Angeles California 50 that concludes our donor segment for No Agenda 675. Remind you we do have a show on Sunday coming up and we'd like to get some support

2:01:13 Dvorak.org slash NA would be the place to go. I just want to double check, so we have no nightings today No title changes either Just see what's... That is a shame Yeah that is a shame but just wanna check the Some incidents here let's do this following I got an idea We've got coming up the big dates of one Or 12, 13, 14. That's December 13th 2014 is coming up on a Sunday. Show day! Really? We'd like some insta-nights for that show. 12, 13, 14 Yes

2:01:50 12, 13, 14 coming up on a Sunday and not this Sunday. The Sunday after is like in a week-and-a-half and we'd like some instant nights for that anyone who's got the nerve to do it will give...we talked about this all a little bit but I would like to discuss it here on the show. An extra thing that we can do to make them a little different Okay, and all the thousand-dollar instant nights that come and go what's the idea? The idea is to give them the show title Like let's say somebody David Foley does it okay Foley Presents in then the show name. Oh wow this presents oh Wow okay

2:02:36 Let me see. Just for this, just for this and it's only for the... And if there are 10 people that do it they won't be ten, they'll be one or maybe two, maybe none but if there are 2 people that do it then first one who comes in gets the show title for that show on that day The next guy gets to the next show and so on So you have ten shows in a row with somebody name at front of them Ok let me try this out For instance on previous show 674 the title was Non-Linear War It would be, if it was David Foley, it would be Grand Duke David Foley presents No Agenda Episode 674 Non-Linear War. Right! Wow... Okay That's different that's just a Hollywood model again we use Like Dick Clark? You see it all the time Oh Ryan Seacrest Presents Brian Seacrest There you go We'll call it the Ryan Seacrest Instant Night Ryan not Bryan I said Ryan Yeah Bryan Seacrest

2:03:34 Crest Brian which end a show the blah blah blah we got it. We're doing from now on he's known as Bryan see crest Yeah, Brian done with this lion Like a Brian than Orion I love it that's great Well, we'll see if anybody likes that idea. If they do then we will find out well Thank you all very much for supporting the program for the work that we do I'm happy that you are getting value out of our deconstructions Thank everybody else who came in under $50 most were anonymity reasons many on subscriptions monthly Go to our page to definitely hook us up to vorac org slash and a promise jobs Jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs

2:04:16 You thought. Karma. And we congratulate Chris. Icebox or Chris Bach who turns 44 tomorrow and sir Stu Coats is very nice to congratulate uncle Don Finney Greg who beats 87 years old tomorrow still fighting the good fight on behalf of the good guys here in Gitmo Nation. Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the best podcast day in the universe Here's what I'd like to do, let me see if I can find it Yeah, let's do this one haven't done this in a while

CHAPTER 30 / 38 Discussion

NASA Orion Launch Delay and Van Allen Belt Radiation Concerns

NASA delayed the launch of the Orion space vehicle, which is designed to test radiation shielding as it passes through the Van Allen belts. The mission has reignited debates regarding the feasibility of the original Apollo moon landings, as NASA scientists now emphasize the extreme danger radiation poses to modern electronic guidance systems and human crews.

nasa· orion· van allen belts· radiation· moon landing

2:05:04 Second half of show John second half of show Today a very important day. We have a launch taking off I believe it's on Atlas V. This will launch the... It should have taken off this morning, I believe so yes. Let's find out! While you do that i'll be goofing around. You need to pay attention though. This is to put the Orion

2:05:45 space vehicle into Ibda Space. NASA has a, you know they do great videos They're really good at showing you the animation of what's supposedly happening as you know I'm sometimes critical of Facts that have been presented to us on television it just got me in a lot of trouble and When i was watching this nasa video how does it get you into any trouble? I've been banned from twit NASA's Orion launch scrubbed rescheduled for Friday. Oh boy, well good then we get to talk about it more I'll just be tomorrow when they launched instead of today So NASA has this great video which explains a very excited guy who is explaining how it's gonna work and what they're gonna do and how It's all gonna fit together And as I'm watching this I'm saying wait a minute now you know the in fact that when I was banned from said program it was due to my

2:06:45 questioning of the travel through the Van Allen belts, which are radiation belts in order to get to the moon. Right there's a number of people that have this argument and this is in fact one of the main reasons for this Orion... let me just play this and we will discuss after We are headed 3600 miles above Earth 15 times higher from the planet than the International Space Station As we get further away from Earth, we'll pass through the Van Allen Belts. An area of dangerous radiation. Radiation like this can harm the guidance systems on board computers or other electronics on Orion Naturally, we have to pass through this danger zone twice Once up and once back

2:07:40 But Orion has protection. Shielding will be put to the test as the vehicle cuts through the waves of radiation. Sensors aboard will record radiation levels for scientists to study We must solve these challenges before we send people through this region of space. For this flight, it's time to head home. This kind of makes my point for me! This is a big 3600 miles The distance to the moon, I might point out is 238,900 miles which we did over 40 years ago through the Van Allen belts. Which we now have to somehow test because it's too dangerous for people. Explain! Explain what? Explain how do explain what? Explain... The Van Allen belts are bad

2:08:28 There's some areas, according to the NASA folks that you can shoot through at a high speed and get past them because it's not one... That's not what he said. He said something very different. He said before we put people... Maybe is going through the thick of it? Before we can... Okay It's just not as same size belt once I saw is thick in some areas thin in others Oh! You've been there? I haven't been there. I looked into pictures Okay, look. I'm just going by what he's saying He's saying oh it's very dangerous We can't we have to test it before we send people for a conference would chime in and hold their hand up and ask the question Well, that is what I'd like to know see any press conference This was a video which is highly produced And this is they have press conferences about this. I'm sure I don't even know I think this whole thing is bogus I think there's a spy mission of some sort yes It makes a big deal out of 36 thousand miles

2:09:26 This is a very strange, and they're not taking any chances on this thing. They're not going to just casually launch it that keep putting it off as the second or third delay as the exploration flight test EFT one yeah I haven't looked into it so much I figured you'd this more your alley Yeah and there it is! I have questions I get no answers No you don't? No I guess I don't deserve any answers Now you would say... see the problem is you're inconsistent You make the claim that nobody ever went to the moon, ever. Sometimes and then some days they didn't do the initial ones in a moon but later of the nine flights... I'm completely consistent and I have said I do not believe that Moon landing That Moon landing? The number one Moon landing where they lost this is only thing you see there's a lot going for it They lost all the tapes though the originals were destroyed yeah It was all these annoying little things John

2:10:25 Yeah, well that one I agree with you. Losing the tapes... This is like one of the most historic events in the history of mankind and you lose it! You lose the tapes. Didn't they get bulk erased or something? It was even better than that. Stupid. Some bogus way of... So, okay you got that going for ya. But you also have claimed that they've gone up there at the other times because I think the argument would be well they didn't want to take a chance on the first one botching it up and killing everybody so they phonied it up so it was a big deal then they could do the other ones with less eyeballs on them but that doesn't make sense at all because if you can get through the Van Allen belts under any circumstances they would have never gone to the moon ever

2:11:15 Then that's very possible. That would trump me, that is not inconsistent I'm just pointing out what is being said by NASA. that it's dangerous to push people through it. I've known other people that are very sincere about this and, and I think they...I can't prove them wrong and as such just say well that's the way you know I just all believe in government uh in this case but It's okay because But if it was all bullcrap they showed it yeah we're sorry we did that because you know I would say ah well there ya go I'd be out partying in the street. I would not I would not be actually surprised, but I wouldn't disappointed They should just dis just cop to it already Luckily we have a president who's all science is and he's all in on the science He's very very well versed over there at the National Institute for Health

CHAPTER 31 / 38 Discussion

President Obama Visits National Institutes of Health

President Obama visited the National Institutes of Health to promote the BRAIN Initiative and tour vaccine research facilities. During his remarks, he joked about his lack of scientific background while describing complex laboratory processes like cloning virus genes into vaccine vectors.

barack obama· nih· brain initiative· vaccines· virus cloning

2:12:08 talking about the Ebola's and you got a little tour of everything. Last year I welcomed Francis and some of you to the White House, to launch our brain initiative that's unlock the mysteries of the mind and pursue new cures for disease. And Francis promoted me at the time to scientist in chief which made me very proud although i sort of felt guilty that I hadn't studied more chemistry but He's smacking his lips a lot. Yeah, because he is about to do something very complicated I think when he says...I think smacking his lips is a tell Well it is a tell for us or just for him? I don't know what its a tell FOR but it seems like a TELL This year is remarkable and I just got a fascinating tour of your vaccine research center I have to say that I was very impressed with how you can clone a virus gene into a vaccine vector

2:13:07 then subjected to a gel, electro... uh... fluoresce. Fluorescence? Really? How about fluorosis? Is it fluorescence or fluorosecence? No I think it's fluorescence and he is trying to say electrophosphorescence. Oh okay! And then... Where lights up Right Pipe at the samples into 96 well microplate through the world's most advanced multi-parameter flow cytometer He can read! It was impressive. I've been tinkering around the White House setting up a similar system We use it for brewing beer

2:14:02 Now, in the beginning you heard that he was talking about the BRAIN Initiative. I... Dr. McKinley Well wait a minute! You're kind of missing some of this stuff in this clip. He's talking about going to where they can create viruses? What is he talking about creating them and then clone the virus and then make it back… It sounds as though it's like… And I think the National Institute of Health was involved with lot of this weaponization Hmm. I don't know it just seems like a strange series of commentary Well, he was visiting there well that would make sense wouldn't it to make light of a situation like that? If weaponizing something and just joke about it That would be par for the course What I was what I found interesting He talked about the brain initiative. I think was like wasn't like $100 million thing that we started a year ago

CHAPTER 32 / 38 Discussion

University of Texas Stolen Brains PR Stunt for Book Launch

A viral news story regarding 100 "stolen" brains from the University of Texas, including that of clock tower sniper Charles Whitman, is identified as a potential PR stunt. The story's timing coincides perfectly with the release of Adam Voorhees' book, Malformed: Forgotten Brains of the Texas State Mental Hospital, published by Powerhouse Books.

university of texas· charles whitman· adam voorhees· powerhouse books· pr stunt

2:14:49 And that was without doubt one of the best PR initiatives I've seen in a while. You recall Mickey photographed brains at UT with our brain professor? Yeah, the brains! Okay and she has not produced those into work that has been on display... you know there's been interest since people wanted to license it and stuff it is very different type of photography of the brains And we heard about, hmm...about a month ago that another guy had been to UT and he had made a book about the brains at UT. He photographed them but really much Mickey made conceptual art out of the brains

2:15:39 which really shows a lot more of nature and golden ratio and all kinds of stuff like that. This guy really just did straight on great photos of brains, Adam Voorhees is his name And we knew this book was coming...and then all of the sudden We get this UT brain stolen! Including...what's this famous criminal Charles Whitman, who killed 16 people including his mother and wife before he was fatally shot by police in 1966. His brain was also there! None of this is true The brains were not stolen These things were in the basement No one gave a crap about them And they were poorly labeled But some perfect PR company has come up with this story which has now gone completely viral And this guy's book is attached to it! It's fucking brilliant

2:16:38 You really think that's right? What, that it is a PR move?! For the guys book. Yes! 100%! 100%, absolutely! If that is true then that is one of the highest level of PR attacks I've seen for a book ever Let us see if we can trace this back The guys name is Adam Vorhees V-O-R-H Vorhes, V-O-R-H-E-S I'm telling you this is a PR move Well, I'm not saying it's not possible. I'm just saying it's pretty advanced for a book It would be pretty coincidental Let's see who publishes the book Would that help us find out? This has got to be an Edelman or someone really good has gotta be doing this

2:17:28 Can I find that on Amazon, who publishes it? What's the name of the book. It's called... No, Amazon doesn't apparently half the time they never tell you who publishes it what's his name in the book? Malformed Forgotten Brains Of The Texas State Mental Hospital which is not true by the way. Formed brains of Texas, god! Yeah these are just brains that were in the basement we know because this is the same brains that Mickey photographed And it's all these rumors that this guy's brain was a part of it, not confirmed. Really not true and there were some... The L-form forgotten brains December 2nd 2014 just came out. Powerhouse? Who publishes this? I'm trying to find out okay would say the New York Times or to say it then who published it they would say in the New York Times would say let me see I'm opening up the New York Times and your times is very slow to open oh here we go what did say at the bottom of the story

2:18:27 I usually read them. I believe, i could be wrong. Powerhouse books no? What's powerhouse books? Pentagram published by powerhouse books! What kind of outfit is that you tell me It doesn't sound very, very high end. No powerhouse got to be an imprint of one of the big boys and that's what it must be some yeah Let's see once he powerhouse books to who powerhouse books is owned by okay about this lot He's going on this kind of thing you might as well just be a self publisher because nobody's gonna know established 1995

2:19:08 Daniel Power started powerhouse books. It almost looks like a small little operation, maybe these guys are just good? Well it's always possible but it seems like a...powerhouse books I don't see any...I know there is no way that they're just owned by themselves I don't believe it They have some best sellers It says the Vanceville is independent book publishers giant Dumbo space Offbeat art books is what they specialize in This is about as off beat as anything ever. Offbeat as you can get, well... I'm not an imprint, at least that I can tell. If I spend another five minutes I could probably figure it out but- I mean i'm telling you this is a setup and its brilliantly done. For opera little publisher in Brooklyn? Someone did it well done! I think it's a coincidence.

CHAPTER 33 / 38 Discussion

Vice Media Valuation and Potential Acquisition of HLN

Vice Media CEO Shane Smith discussed the company's aggressive acquisition strategy, targeting "distressed media assets" like magazines and television networks. Smith hinted that Vice is interested in acquiring HLN (Headline News), claiming the network is currently performing poorly and could be revitalized under Vice's management.

vice media· shane smith· tom freston· hln· acquisitions

2:20:11 Now, if I say that I think it's a coincidence and it was actually a public relations thing high fives. Because that is what I'm supposed to think. This is the kind of thing you might be good at finding out who was behind this? Well, I would not by my research just call a couple guys in New York. That's what I am saying can you do that? To me okay here is a little interesting aspect of this These guys also did the Vice photo book. Ah, well that's interesting you say that I have a clip about vice with the founder Shane Smith who is a front man Tom Freston and this is like public relations driven operation that Oh yeah up there their net worth oh yeah This is Shane Smith

2:21:07 Who was just a hipster beard dude. He's a front man, he is good front man But Tom Fresten is the guy behind this who was the CEO of MTV Networks very very smart guy? He knows how to do this he's pumped his valuation up so high and they are on a buying spree and here Shane Smith of Vice in conversation with... Are you ready? Jeff Jarvis And they're talking about acquisitions. There's a real hot market for acquisitions in high-tech, but not in media So we saw a lot of distressed media assets out there be they magazines be they you know web platforms

2:21:45 Well, we've bought magazines. It's good business for us like we bought ID magazine right and we turned it into an online Entity and now Chanel and Prada and LVMH are lining up to give us you know eight figure numbers So well bully for you, but there's a lot of distressed media assets out there. He say bully for you I said bully for you. Oh I Said that like Prada and everybody they'll be lined up because he was eight-figure number a lot of distressed media assets out there Some of them in TV that we can go after, that we believe would be... You know look HLN is a distressed media asset. It's great opportunity because they're doing a very bad job and we believe we could do better job. Hmm! HLN headline news? Bingo boom shakalaka well look out Nancy Grace And these guys are all about the PR and they'll take money from the State Department They'll take money from the Russians to do anything

2:22:48 Huh, well there may be some PR thing to it. I don't know why they want to plug the Malform Brains book but they could pull that off just a show-off maybe? Well everyone ran with it. It's USA Today CNN everyone's all oh this is so funny and then... Stolen Brain yeah Because one thing to have the stolen brain story but then immediately this guy is talking about it The guy he launched someone launched this bullcrap story there. What there's no brain from them mystery criminal These are they're poorly labeled pieces of crap Yeah, well you see this is a good thing you had Mickey do this work because it got us some inside Scoop we would not even notice this store where you might have because his local but I was the story just passed me over I never heard anything about any of this

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Reprieve Report on Drone Strike Civilian Casualties

A new report from the group Reprieve titled "You Never Die Twice" finds that U.S. drone strikes kill an average of 28 unidentified people for every intended target. The data shows that attempts to kill 41 high-value targets in Pakistan and Yemen resulted in the deaths of over 1,000 people, including 76 children.

reprieve· drones· amy goodman· pakistan· yemen

2:23:40 Alright, interesting. You might be right there. Got the updated on the drone report I don't know why you want to play that forget it. They're going after the drone guys again of course... Do you find it unusual that Amy Goodman... You're going to say weird or you did unusual? Good catch. I didn't even... Of course it's saying weird, but I just said unusual. Well thank you! I don't...I'm still trying to get the yes-no thing. We said essentially a lot today and i've just let you slide on that. Well, I gotta stop doing that. But I do have the weird thing under control but there would be yes no thing is still mysterious So lets' do the drone report Do you find it unusual that Amy Goodman who goes on and on about Obama and the drones

2:24:26 Still big supporter of the how do they all these people bitch about the drones constantly and there's still a huge Obama bots Do you want me to answer the question or play the clip? Yeah, I want you to answer the question You can play the clip and then answer the question. A new report finds U.S drone strikes kill on average 28 unidentified people for every intended target while the Obama administration has claimed that its drone strikes are precise, The group Reprieve found that strikes targeting 41 people in Yemen and Pakistan have killed more than a thousand other unnamed people In its attempts to kill al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawiri alone, the CIA killed 76 children and 29 adults. Al-Zawiri remains alive. Joining us from Berlin is Jennifer Gibson, staff attorney at Reprieve, author of the new report You Never Die Twice. First of all, Jennifer, why that title? And talk about your main findings.

2:25:24 I think the title is quite self-explanatory for us. Basically what happened is we started noticing a pattern among the drone strikes with our investigations in Pakistan and Yemen, and the pattern was that the same high value target seemed to die again and again and again. So when we started digging into it and looking at the news reporting, what we found was that in targeting 41 high-value targets the U.S. took on average three times—it was three attempts to kill them—and actually with seven of the individuals they didn't even kill them

2:25:59 Haven't we discovered this way before this report came out when we were discussing the actions in North Africa and Algeria? Sure. We kept seeing the same guy getting killed. It happens every day over and over, and he pops up again. He's dead again! Well, I've told you that Uncle Don is still all in on this. He feels the drones are the way to go surgical strikes This is perfect and I fight him on that. You know we're killing Suspected militants this isn't we're not even this is what it is now suspected militants which is no code for kids

2:26:37 Yeah, kids. And then why? And why are we doing it because they're going to jump on their Toyota and drive over and kill us here while we're droning them in Yemen were joining them in Pakistan was there a stone I did talk to the liquor guy who is from Pakistan our local liquor store here around the corner as a Hey man what is that What is the deal with you in India with the cashmere and all that And he says, you know what's going to... it's just the terrorists. The terrorists are being sent down from Pakistan into India this whole Kashmir, you know there is water that's important we hate each other screw those guys and it's just this is gonna be a never-ending story of terrorist coming to India and that's kind of it! We just hate each other okay? That's really good but

2:27:31 Why are we then going and droning everybody in killing suspected militants? He says pipeline protection. Thank you very much That's all I wanted to hear pipeline protection There it is, of course Inexplicable that people are not disgusted by this just completely and utterly disgusting Obama bots It doesn't make sense Completely and utterly disgusted So we have a couple of, there's a story I got that i think is just bogus. Doesn't make sense in any way shape or form as the Syria this is the Syria update and tell me what you think doesn't make sense about this story? And in Syria President Bashar Assad said today that air strikes against Islamic State targets in his country have done no good he told a French magazine that only ground troops can defeat the militants

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Bashar al-Assad Interview with Paris Match Magazine

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad told Paris Match magazine that coalition airstrikes against ISIS have produced no tangible results without ground troops. Assad criticized French President Francois Hollande, stating that the current French administration is working against the interests of both the Syrian and French people.

bashar al-assad· syria· paris match· francois hollande· isis

2:26:37 Yeah, kids. And then why? And why are we doing it because they're going to jump on their Toyota and drive over and kill us here while we're droning them in Yemen were joining them in Pakistan was there a stone I did talk to the liquor guy who is from Pakistan our local liquor store here around the corner as a Hey man what is that What is the deal with you in India with the cashmere and all that And he says, you know what's going to... it's just the terrorists. The terrorists are being sent down from Pakistan into India this whole Kashmir, you know there is water that's important we hate each other screw those guys and it's just this is gonna be a never-ending story of terrorist coming to India and that's kind of it! We just hate each other okay? That's really good but

2:27:31 Why are we then going and droning everybody in killing suspected militants? He says pipeline protection. Thank you very much That's all I wanted to hear pipeline protection There it is, of course Inexplicable that people are not disgusted by this just completely and utterly disgusting Obama bots It doesn't make sense Completely and utterly disgusted So we have a couple of, there's a story I got that i think is just bogus. Doesn't make sense in any way shape or form as the Syria this is the Syria update and tell me what you think doesn't make sense about this story? And in Syria President Bashar Assad said today that air strikes against Islamic State targets in his country have done no good he told a French magazine that only ground troops can defeat the militants

2:28:23 Yeah, this is an interview. I got an update from... He's inviting ground troops on the ground? Yes! Is he crazy?! It's bullcrap there's no way they said that Here is Sub-70 who was in Syria sent this to me this morning President Al Assad did an exclusive interview with Paris Match Magazine and This is out now today So it was an interview by French magazine And three Q&As. Are the coalition strikes helping you? Bashar al-Assad says, You can't end terrorism with aerial strikes troops on the ground that know the land and can react are essential That's why there haven't been any tangible results in the two months of strikes led by the coalition Um...are you afraid to suffer the same demise as Saddam Hussein or Muammar Gaddafi? And Bashar Al Assad says The captain doesn't think about death Or life he thinks about saving this ship

2:29:19 And Francois Hollande continues to refer to you as an adversary. Do you think contact can ever be re-established? Assad says, it's not a question of personal relations. As a matter fact I don't even know him! It is about relations between states and institutions in the interest of two nations. We will work with any French dignitary or government in our common interest... Notice this about the French But the current administration is working against the interests of our people and that of the French people. I'm neither personal enemy or rival of Hollande, I think Daesh is his rival and their popularity is very much the same." So this came out of... Amy Goodman is just parodying this interview from- That was actually Woodruff on NewsHour. How about this one? Will you have a follow up on this? By the way how cool was that

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Sweden Snap Election and the Rise of Sweden Democrats

Sweden called its first snap election in over 50 years after the right-wing Sweden Democrats party voted down the government's budget. The political crisis centers on the party's demand for tougher immigration policies, while reports also highlight the Swedish FRA's long-standing role in spying on Russian communications for the United States.

sweden· stefan löfven· sweden democrats· immigration· fra

2:30:04 Very good, okay Sweden update And Sweden has called its first snap election for more than half a century after a far-right party helped defeat the center left minority government's first budget in parliament. The elections in September handed the anti immigration Sweden Democrats the balance of power and they continue to threaten to make the country ungovernable unless the country adopts tough new immigration policies Well, you will not believe this John This morning I received an update from our global intelligence network From Diffin from Sweden, would you like to hear? Oh yeah. Hello! Now it sounds like we were rehearsing the show... No this is not rehearsed, this is not rehearsed As you probably know or we have an interesting time in Sweden The Swedish Democrats who are foreign hostile right-wing party make note of that

2:30:55 have just voted down the ruling administration purpose for the budget. That has resulted that the Swedish minister Stefan Löfven, who is of the social democrats have called a new election which will take place in March. A couple funny things going on here... Do you love our global intelligence network? No, they're the best. First of all not a single party wants to discuss the Sweden Democrats even now that they are the third largest party in Sweden I believe that this is something that has pissed off a lot of Swedes A survey made today says that 44% of the Swedish people thinks the Sweden Democrats and these are right-wingers... It's the UKIP of Sweden

2:31:31 44% of the Swedish people think the Sweden Democrats did the right thing to throw the ruling administration out by not voting for their budget. All the politicians tell the media this is an outrage and not how it's done in Sweden! The Sweden Democrats think the Swedish Parliament is just a playground. Only problem is that most of the Swedish people think exactly the same thing! All the other parties are blaming each other and the Sweden Democrats for what just has happened, and here's the latest meme from Sweden... I have taken responsibility or we are going to continue to take responsibility something every politician in Sweden is telling the media today funny how everyone is so damn responsible but were still on this mess

2:32:15 I want to add that in Sweden we have the FRA. The FRA has been spying on Russia for the US for a long time, this is the connection! This is how we get the WikiLeaks connection with Assange... With Sweden's FRA which I guess stands for what does it stand for? Let me see... It's probably something in Swedish. National Defense Radio Establishment Okay FRA has been spying on Russia for the US for a long time and from 2008 they can listen to wired and wireless traffic without a court order. So now when the Finns are routing their internet traffic through Sweden, it's a really nice time for the Swedish security service and Swedish government to collect some nice information." Love the show! I'll be donating soon!" I asked if there was this UKIP of Sweden, these Sweden Democrats, if they were really anti-Muslim? And he came back and said

2:33:12 Now, they're really foreign or hostile. They want to cut down the number of people that come to Sweden from different countries around the world. They got a lot from Africa and the Middle East. I didn't know that a lot of Africans go to Sweden." I didn't know that either. Yeah, they must be very ghettoized. Since it's tough with the economy in Sweden right now... It's the same everywhere. The not-so intelligent people think the foreigners are coming here just steal our jobs. Of course they are! Hello? We know that. To eat your food The only problem is the not-so intelligent people pretty much don't work in the first place. Prime Minister Stefan Löfven said it's hard to imagine how 13% of the people can vote for a party that are afraid of the Muslims, and he says the Sweden Democrats are not they want to reduce the immigration rate overall but on the other hand the Secret Service was interviewed in the largest paper in Sweden they said they have been phone tapping and following people who just visited Syria we got the same bullshit we got

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Venezuela Charges Opposition Leader Maria Corina Machado

Venezuelan authorities have charged prominent opposition leader Maria Corina Machado with conspiracy in an alleged plot to assassinate President Nicolas Maduro. Machado has vehemently rejected the charges, while hundreds of supporters gathered to protest the investigation outside the Attorney General's office.

venezuela· nicolas maduro· maria corina machado· conspiracy· assassination plot

2:34:08 Oh, you got people going over to Syria and coming back to blow you up. However then he says we here in Sweden are not afraid that will be attacked by IS, ISIS or ISIL or any other organization but of course the large newspapers are trying to start something to make us worried but in general nobody gives a crap. Well good on ya! Yeah the Swedes are pretty laid-back I like to have opinions, but they're not like nervous Nelly's. Like we are apparently OK? OK getting stumpy on that one third try. Oh please really alright Venezuela update. I can tell you right now I have no update and he is the country's president she is a prominent opposition leader and she's now been charged with conspiracy in relation to an alleged plot to assassinate him

2:35:00 It is the situation in Venezuela where Maria Karina Machado is vehemently rejecting charges that she's been involved in any plot to kill President Nicolas Maduro. The political turmoil continues in Venezuela. Opposition leader Maria Karina Machado has been put under investigation for her alleged participation in a plot to kill President Nicolas Maduro. Hundreds of protesters were gathered outside the Attorney General's office to support the former congresswoman. Maria Machado responded to a summons to attend the closed hearing on Wednesday and said she had nothing to hide

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UK Social Media Prosecution Guidelines and Show Outro

The UK's Lord Advocate Frank Mulholland issued new guidelines stating that illegal speech on the street is now equally criminal when posted online. These regulations target "grossly offensive" or "indecent" messages, raising concerns about the future of free expression and the potential for government overreach in monitoring digital communications.

united kingdom· free speech· social media· prosecution· free speech

2:35:39 Again, proving we don't know what the hell's going on in Venezuela. No, we really don't know. We have a few people that write in and tell us some stuff are part of the network but they seem to have political agendas and I don't know it's just gonna be hard to get a grip on it wanted to read you the little article here which falls in the category from the UK prosecutors. They're really clamping down on free speech I don't think you really even have free speech in the United States of Gitmo Nation East, United Kingdoms. The prosecutors have now set out guidelines on which or whether messages posted on social media could be treated as a crime. So these are words put on computer networks that can be a crime? The Lord Advocate Frank Mulholland said that test is simple

2:36:38 If it would be illegal to say it on the street, it's illegal to say it online. What in the United States John by you as a constitutional scholar of course what would be illegal to say? What words... Well actually certain kinds of threats against the president Okay is it illegal or is that an actual federal offense? Yeah there's a law It's illegal and this has been held up by the Supreme Court Everything else is pretty much fair game it seems to me. You can't really threaten people, but I don't think it's illegal. I think if you're like, you son of a bitch I'm gonna kill ya! If the guy gets up dead they'd use that against you but...

2:37:22 It's not illegal that I know of. I think they're trying to make it illegal." I would say, and this is one of the guidelines... If the communication constitutes credible threats of violence to a person damaged to property or to incite public disorder would that be illegal in America? I, you know...I think it's pretty much of a gray area. I don't think it is." Well here's one that I know we can do…well for now….you may not in the UK on social media specifically target an individual or group with a hate crime domestic abuse or stalking message. You can't say

2:38:08 Well, there was this guy... Remember the case we talked about? It was the Facebook case that just went to the Supreme Court. Yeah where he said I want to kill my wife. I'm going to kill you! I know where you live and I am gonna kill you but I'm just joking or something. Kind of along those lines although I think he prefaced it with if i'm not mistaken he said I know the difference between free speech and not-free speech, and what's legal and what's not legal. For example, I know it's not legal to say, "'I'm going to kill you! I know where you live!' And that was his premise." Then he did a rap song as just an artistic expression. He was just skirting around... So I guess it is illegal— But we have not seen an opinion on that yet? No, it's not done. Wait a minute…

2:39:00 I don't think there's an opinion yet. Okay, well... You may not post anything on social media that may amount to a breach of court order or contravene legislation making it a criminal offense to release or publish information relating to proceedings. That would be whistleblowers! Also, if you got one of those security letters that's illegal to read. Yeah but how about just WikiLeaks? You know WikiLeaks in general you cannot post any WikiLeaks stuff. I think WikiLeaks is illegal yeah It'll be illegal here too and finally... I think WikiLeaks is half-illegal already Finally in the UK you may not post anything on social networks that do not fall into the above categories But are nonetheless considered to be grossly offensive indecent obscene

2:39:49 obscene or involve the communication of false information about an individual or group which results in adverse consequences. You better leave the UK, people! Well get off Twitter that's for sure. This legislation is important. The substance is right the time is right and the way in which it has been developed is right. It's a properly considered, thought through set of proposals that will help to keep us safe at a time of very significant danger. It has been drawn up in close consultation with police and security services In open and free society like ours we can never entirely eliminate threat from terrorism but we must do everything possible consistent with our values as a country

2:40:37 to reduce the risk presented by our enemies. It is a struggle that will go on for many years, and the threat we face right now is perhaps greater than it ever has been. And we must have the powers we need... ...to defend ourselves." There you go! It's all good everybody! Podcast license coming soon Yeah, but we'll be able to get one until they listen to the podcast. Hey! These guys are no good? We can't give that to them. Guys like that talking like that... I'm gonna take that away from those jabronis. Put him on probation. Send him a stern warning letter. Alrighty everybody well we'll see what more bullcrap comes down the pipe. Got a couple things i'm working on

2:41:34 And see if I can get more from that Putin address now that i have it. State of the Union What is today? Thursday? Yes, Thursday Tomorrow will be Friday. We should get more listeners in that Russian area Brooklyn New York Right So Russian its astonishing Coming to you...I'm sorry? Next time im gonna..i've always wanted to just go there and eat food It's got to have some of the most authentic stuff around. Anyway, I'm sorry this is a distraction. That's no problem Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of The Drone Star State In The Morning everybody! I am Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley which I believe is FEMA Region 7? I'm not sure...I never sure because we don't have many uses for FEMA here. I'm John C. Dvorak and we'll be back on Sunday right here on No Agenda Boom shaka laka boom shaka laka boom shaka laka and boom shaka laka

2:42:39 I'm Joe Biden and thank you for taking the time to listen. Adios, mofo!