Jihadi Cool

00:00 Excuse me, we're talking about quarantine from Ebola, not haircuts. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, October 30th, 2014 and time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 665. This is no agenda. Blaming Putin for all disruptions to the new world order. From FEMA region 6 in the capital of the drone star state, Austin, Texas in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, your home for the world champion San Francisco Giants. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's crackpot and buzzkill. It's morning. You know, we, for seven years,

00:39 have been trying to motivate people to protest the murderous psychopaths that run the world, can't get anyone to do a single thing, but oh, let their sports team win and they'll burn down the city. The frustration of these people, of the citizens of the world, must be so high that when you actually go destroy stuff when your team wins, the end is nigh. There's no other two ways. And you know what I mean? This is crazy. What is that? I don't know. I saw his baffled me, but it's something new. It's hard. They have pent up anger, anger or something. They're pent up anytime, anytime that has, unless the challenges, even when they win year after year, I mean, this is the third time the giants have won in the last five years. And for reasons that are baffling to me, because this team was not good, but they did it because of the manager, I believe, but whatever the case is, even when they win a lot, that people still go nuts.

01:37 Yeah, but this is something that I think is... And they tear down in Europe too, same thing. Yes, yeah, I think it's something of the past decade, maybe 15 years. When the team wins, they go and they turn cars over and burn stuff. I do not understand this. But I just don't. I think this goes back further than a decade. I mean, when I was a kid, I remember stories about this. Not like this, John. Or was it just more prevalent because we have more live on the spot video that feels like it's a little more prevalent? Could be. It's probably a combination of changes too. Yeah. Could be. Could be.

02:13 But anyway, that's very distressing I find that just as I have all the things have of all the things to get mad about Happier whatever lying on you. Yeah, the police are corrupt who cares? Who gives a crap don't worry about a single thing, but of course we are here? Perfect sir Terry that cheap bastard of Mobile Bay and his kid mobile Bay real Bay yes, all that mobile Bay

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04:02 I have received from some of our higher up peerage, we need more John C. DeVore at Costco wine suggestions. Huh. Not a lot of stuff to... Costco... I've said this before, I'll say it again just to persuade people. The Costco wine phenomenon is really gone downhill. That's what I told the requestor. I said, I think it's it's not what it was. I mean, I would say that about three years ago, maybe four, they had some buyer or something. I don't know what was going on. But at one time, the Novato Costco was the largest retailer of wine, I think, in the

04:51 Western United States maybe in the whole country and they also during the I remember when the 90s this is when the 95s came out so this would be 97 98 They had...it was outrageous the deals you could get. And before that, too, there was a lot of action. And then all of a sudden they changed both the way they laid out the wines. Somebody came in and they went from these bins that they used to put the wines into just stacks of boxes. So they've ruined it. The whole idea is ruined. Well, no, that's not what the ruination was. That was a problem because when they were laid out in the bins, you could look over, it was easier to spot wines and it was better organized. Now it's just boxes and boxes and boxes with, you know, the slice off the top of the box and there's a bunch of bottles sticking up.

05:38 and sitting on top of another half-sliced box, and it's just, it's shoddy. And the selection is not what it was. It's not a lot of Easter eggs. So it's not that different than going to a big liquor warehouse operation. So, I see it once in a while, there's something, oh, that's a pretty good one. And it tends to be regionalized. For example, there was a wine that they had up in... I don't know, it would bore people stiff with this, but... Yeah, I'm falling asleep just a bit, but... They're very regional now. So, you have like in Port Angeles, Washington, there's a couple of wines up there that I thought were really outstanding and I bought...

06:15 a bunch of it, and I came down here and I know that you can always ask at the front where the manager is in a Costco to look stuff up on the computer. So if you, is there any of this wine? He'll look it up and he'll find all the, look at all the stores in California. There was no bottles of this in California, they never brought it in. So it's become so regionalized now that doing these recommendations is futile. Okay, so that is it then. There it is. Then of course we had the big tech news of the day. Tim Cook is gay. There's tech news. Yeah, Tim Tim Cook is gay. This is the big tech news again. Yes, this guy gonna be gay You know, this is this is so strange. I have a feeling that some there was something coming There was some some weird news was gonna come then. Why would he do this now? Yeah, no, he wrote a big letter saying I'm gay, but he didn't he already say he's gay like no No, no, no, no, no, it was not official yet. I

07:16 Oh, please. Now it's a headline everywhere. Tim Cook gay. It should be Tim Cook gay, who cares? I wonder why it would force him to do that. That's what I'm saying. I have a feeling... I'm gonna put something in the Red Book. You should. Well, speaking of Red Book... You should ask me what it is I'm gonna put. Oh, I think there were some photos. What about it? Tim and leather or something? Oh, oh, maybe unflattering something not nice something. Yeah, yeah, well, but the government does yeah, yeah, exactly blackmail. That's right. Yeah. Hey, you're not putting enough a wait. Let's go through this This encryption

08:04 You cannot get into the phones anymore, and we can't either. Nobody can. So now we have two events happen. One, the tap to pay thing falls apart. Apple's to blame somehow. Putin is to blame. Putin did all of that. All these drugstores decide that we don't want to tap to pay from Apple. Apple pays dead. Now there's a story that was in Ars Technica that just ran recently, I think it was, or Seeking Alpha. Seeking Alpha, they're always following Apple. They say, did Apple pay cost a billion dollars, billions of dollars lost somehow? And now this, this is government blackmail. They're saying, look, you guys, you aren't playing ball with us anymore. So here's what's gonna happen. First we're gonna do this, then we're gonna do this, then we're gonna do this. We're gonna ruin your pay.

08:50 And then we're going to, oh look at these pictures. Oh look at this. These pictures are interesting. Oh Tim, what is this? I think this is interesting, these pictures. You know, I wouldn't put it past the government. They're trying some sneaky... What's the surveillance for if not for blackmail? The FBI is trying some sneaky thing. Hold on, how many... Anyway, Apple better play ball. Oh yeah, oh yeah. So there's, I guess there's some form of regulation for the FBI about how they conduct their business. And let's see, so they sent off, the FBI sent off what they wanted an amendment. Here it is, Rule 41 of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, the terms under which the FBI is allowed to conduct searches under court approved warrants.

09:48 And this of course has Comey's fingerprints all over it because he the new director of the FBI because he's he wants to Stop encryption. He wants to have bigger powers and so now he doesn't have to do any real work Yeah, no, no sleuthing for you Oh, by the way, thank you everybody for the JavaScript fucking shit you put on my web pages. Ugh. Takes forever to load anything these days. Here we go. Uh, rule 41, search and seizure. I have no idea what you just said. Oh, I'm sorry. I get really annoyed because people put these videos that play and all this JavaScript pop-ups pop under, flash, fly over, page takeover. The web is useless.

10:29 A magistrate judge with authority in any district where activities related to a crime have occurred has authority, this is the new inserted language, to issue a warrant to use remote access to search electronic storage media and to seize or copy electronically stored information located within or outside that district if a The district where the media or information is located has been concealed through technological means or be In an investigation of a violation of 18 U.S. Code 1030 A5, the media are protected computers that have been damaged without authorization and are located in five or more districts." So pretty much this says if there is information that has been concealed through technological means, I would read that to be encryption, then the FBI has

11:23 They do not even have to go... they have to use this... Dan Shorey 2 Could be a subfolder. Dan Shorey 1 Yes, yes. They may use remote access to search electronic storage media, seize or copy electronic storage information, even if it's outside of the district or the country, presumably. Dan Shorey 2 Yeah. Dan Shorey 1 The officer must make reasonable efforts to serve a copy of the warrant on the person whose property was searched, not is going to be or was searched, or whose information was seized or copied. Servers may be accomplished by any means including electronic means reasonably calculated to reach that person. You can tweet. Hey, we just searched your drive. And this will be discussed by the Oversight Committee. I guess it's... which... what is the... who has oversight on this, John? I don't know. That's a good question. I have... We're definitely gonna get a download of that one. Administrative Office of the United States Courts.

12:21 Let me see. The Advisory Committee on Criminal Rules. Who could be in this? So Wednesday, November 5th, they're going to come together and talk about this proposed amendment, which seems... I mean, it's pretty much already written in there. Let's see. What is this? Advisory Committee on Criminal Rules. Let's see who's in this. The... That's a subcommittee. Advisory... Yeah. From the... Probably judiciary. Judiciary. Advisory... Judi... da da da. Committee on... What was it? Advisory... On criminal rules, okay. Well certainly we could find out who's in it. Well yeah Advisory committee on criminal rules you okay, it's a part of the judicial. Yeah, that would be right, okay? They have a wiki page. Oh, that's nice. Yes Under the son of the US attorney It's probably holder. I think holder just her holders out. No he's still hanging around committee no no these have to be congressmen hmm

13:26 Hmm, doesn't really say that. Okay. I can't, we'll have to look into this. We'll figure it out. But this doesn't seem... Yeah, we'll just go take and then watch it. Yeah, it seems like this is not, yeah, exactly. It seems like this is not constitutional. No, of course not. Oh, maybe here's... I don't think that they're Congress critters on this. It doesn't make any sense if... No, it has to be. Here it is, list of confirmed witnesses for the public hearing. Oh, they have... Oh, here's the witnesses. Oh, this is going to be good. We have Nathan Freed-Wesler of the American Civil Liberties Union. That'll be good. Chris Segoian, also ACLU. Kevin Bankston of the Open Technology Institute New American Foundation. Is that a Soros thing? Sounds like it.

14:21 Yeah, you know, it could be. But, you know, it's one of the two. You know, there's only two guys running all those things, apparently. And we have Joe Hall, Center for Democracy and Technology. And Alan Butler from Epic. I've always I have always questioned Epic. I'm not quite sure. I'm not quite sure what their agenda is. Amy Stepanovich from AccessNow.org and Ahmed Ghapoor from the University of California, Hastings College of Law. Sounds like a lot of policy people and not a single actual technologist, and this is something that is bothering me to no end. Oh, yeah. Yeah, this is a problem. We have a... there are many many technology reporters and websites and shows and podcasts and all kinds of stuff, but when it comes to actually reporting on some technology,

15:19 Everyone resorts to glitch, don't know, and now we have this hack, which of course you heard first on the NO Agenda show about the White House computer network being compromised or down. Now of course, obviously we know there's only one person who could be behind this. Only Putin could do this, obviously. Putin is the world's great hacker. There's a new chickie on CNN. Guess she's been around, but I she's all of a sudden. She's showing up big time, and she is what's her name here? Her name is Pamela Brown

15:57 Have you seen her? I don't know. Yeah, Pamela Brown. You have to remember I can't get CNN anymore. Oh, that's right. It's been taken off the dish, right? Yeah. She's born in 1983. I don't know where she comes from. Doesn't matter. So she now all of a sudden is reporting on matters of hacking and just the fact that... This blonde woman? Yeah. Just the fact... Sorry? Yeah, blonde one. Oh, oh! I'm proud to be gay! Yes, yes, we have the front- oh, stop the CNN presses! Jesus Christ.

16:36 I'm sorry. All right, let's listen to the hacking story. And this is just... This woman looks like she should be in the... working for Vogue or something. Which is why... Oh, I didn't think that... the hem on her dress was so old... so 80s. I can't believe she was wearing that. Suspicious cyber activity detected on the White House computer network. Stop. What does this mean? This is not reporting Suspicious I played again. It sounded like a little kid suspicious computer activity suspicious cyber activity cyber activity This is not reporting. This is what's suspicious cyber activity. That's my point. This is this is not reporting. This is reading a novel

17:20 This is dumb. Suspicious cyber activity detected on the White House computer network. But it appears the White House may not have been the ones to actually detect the breach. According to the Washington Post, it was a tip from an ally that alerted the administration its computer systems had been compromised. And what does that mean, compromised? I'm not in a position to talk in any detail about how the nature of this threat uh, was detected. This is, uh, that's, um, Josh. Josh Jed. Assess the threat. Cybersecurity teams initiated temporary outages on its computer network to defend the system. As for who this, this conjures up images of, you know, little dudes named Ben running around like, bring it down, bring it down. We've got to protect the system.

18:07 This is not reporting, this is making imagery. Who's behind the breach? The White House is insane. Our efforts are ongoing and by publicly revealing what we know it might affect our ability to learn more. Putin! U.S. officials with first-hand knowledge tell CNN while they're still investigating the origin of the attack, Russian hackers are considered to be the prime suspects. This is just made up. So they're still investigating the origin of the hacks. First of all, let's stop with the hack word. Can we just stop? You know, there are, it may have been a

18:45 Distributed denial of service, it may have been someone pinging ports. But this just saying hacked, hacked, hacked is to me just as egregious as saying we're all going to die from Ebola. It's not okay anymore for this to be reported this way. As they usually are in cases of cyber attacks on the US government and US companies. Let's just listen to that again. It's usually them. It's just usually them. It's always the Russians. How can it usually be anybody? Well, it's usually the Russians. Officials with first-hand knowledge tell CNN while they're still investigating the origin of the attack, Russian hackers are considered to be the prime suspects as they usually are in cases of cyber attacks on the U.S. government and U.S. companies. That's bullshit!

19:28 He's a Chinese. We all know that. We know he's the Chiners. Stop now. We've seen just in the last few months an increase in attacks that seem to be originating from Russia. And I think that is the particular concern today in Washington about the attack on the White House. So did they trace route and the IP address, which of course can be spoofed from here to high heaven? Then, oh, it turns out that's a .ru domain name? Are they doing whois lookups? What are they doing to trace the origin back to Russia? This is annoying. And one of the sources I spoke with say given the complexity of the breach, it wouldn't be surprising if the Russian government was behind the breach, but it's still too early to know anything. It wouldn't be surprising, considering the complexity. This is ridiculous. The complexity of the breach.

20:19 For sure, and a White House official tells CNN, for security reasons, we are not saying who was responsible, but that is not to say we are not aware. So implying there that they may know who's behind this. I would imagine that they expect this sort of attack on a regular basis. Right, and as we just heard from the cyber security expert, there have been an increasing number of cyber attacks emanating from Russia, from China, those are the two main actors in this. Of course, if you think about it, the White House is going to be a hot target. So it's not surprising in that sense. What is surprising is that they were actually... able to succeed and that supposedly according to the Washington Post and what we haven't been able to independently confirm is that an ally is the one to sort of bring it to the White House's attention again still working on confirming that part of it. That's kind of disturbing. Hello, hello. Can't they tell us? Hello, we were rooting around in your computers and we noticed there's some Russians in there as well. This is an outrage. This is... Actually, what you said there, it's exactly it. Yeah, oh yeah.

21:21 Brown, your file system, your NAS. We noticed there was some Russian fingerprints. Must have been Putin and his whole bunch. It is, of course, a National Cybersecurity Awareness Month for all the month. That's the only way I'm making us aware. Well, but it's spreading. And so to get to accentuate my point... And by the way, go look at your mail because I sent you a photo of Pam Brown. Okay, is it worth looking at it? Well, it's just it'll make you chuckle With brawl. Thank you. That's a bummer. Don't give me a photo of her and broth That's not a flattering picture of her because there's brothers next door

22:07 Now, this is spreading. And this next report shows how valuable time is being wasted on not informing people. And it would be okay if we had a community of technology reporters who would go a little bit further than glitch, hack, glitch, glitch, hack, hack, glitch. If we could go a little bit further than that. But no one No one does this. Phone, phone, phone, phone. Tim Cook, gay, phone. Overwhelmed the city system like they did city leaders saying in the last week They've seen a real increase in people trying to access the website in their internet-based system They're trying to access the website in their internet-based system. You see now the story is already unraveling. It's it's unraveling before us Please call the people alleged perpetrators But anything but didn't hackers

23:12 But in this case they were able to stop the hackers before they got any information, but not before they blocked the system for a period of time. So you already know what's going on. Someone did a distributed denial of service attack and so it brought the website down. But this has spun into this huge story because, as you'll hear, the technology partners need to be brought in. This is sales. And very much like when I was a young boy even before I was all Mr. Crackpot, I always thought to myself, isn't it amazing how right when I have the flu that all these flu medications are out and they're advertising on television. And you know, if I were a cybersecurity firm, yeah, I'd be DDoSing all kinds of stuff to be brought in to solve the problem. You've got to think this is going on.

24:04 Well, I would remind people of the story of John McAfee, who still owes me dinner by the way. Don't eat his mushrooms. We've made for an interesting show, who created a newsletter and he's the one, viruses were not a problem in the computing community at all until he came along. Really? Yeah, he came along because there was a couple of little hacks that went around that was distributed on floppy disks. And he came along with a newsletter and he would find, you know, somebody experimenting with something or other and write it up as some major threat. And his newsletter would go on and on about all these threats that were because of viruses and hackers and kids and everything. And he would promote it.

24:58 And every once in a while somebody would do something interesting and they would just somehow erase all your data or something. That was the olden days. Remember the cool old days? The cool old days where they'd erase your 20 megabyte hard disk would get erased. Yeah, but I remember when... What was it? It would send out an email to everyone in your contact list. Well, that was later in the game. He'd already made his billions by the time that happened. He'd popularized it, and then he had the McAfee antivirus. He essentially invented the idea. And it was a scanner that would look for signatures, and then he'd do his news there.

25:37 This was true marketing, which is a... Yeah, he created the problem. He created the problem. He created the problem that he also solved. But at the same time, you mentioned floppy disk. It was of course the internet that made true viruses. The first internet worm was a Unix-based...it was a worm more than a virus. It was funny. It was fun to watch something propagate through the network and that was really the joy of it. The first great worm was the Morris worm which was covered by the New York Times and John Markoff was the reporter. And he was actually taken off, and he was very knowledgeable at the time, and he could, he still is, but he was taken off that case, because he would have won a Pulitzer Prize with that story, but he just started there, and they, yeah, it's not the way it works here at the times. And he was taken off. And he also noticed something that was interesting, which was the disappearance of some of the information from his main story in later editions of the newspaper. And it had to do with, I don't remember the details,

26:40 Probably shouldn't even be talking about it. I like that the plot thickens. Yeah, it seems as if the CIA had some parts that was everyone's suspicion. What was happening with John Markov's story? We now go to John C. Dvorak. Part of the story was removed. Part of the story was removed mysteriously. And it referred to Russian writings on a blackboard. Ah, there you go. Uh-huh. Well, let's listen to the rest of this Arizona story just just so we can irritate ourselves about So John Markoff, who was pulled off the story, this must have been 20 years ago, longer even. Yeah, it was early. Yeah. And now 22 decades later, this is the reporting we get on the computer security, cyber. The city's internet access was down for 45 minutes. The city of Phoenix investigating after hackers successfully blocked the city's internet system Saturday. At this point in time, we're not, we're unclear of any kind of motive or who's attacking us. We don't know.

27:39 Randall Smith, the city's chief information security officer, talking about the attack after Fox 10 obtained internal emails. One showing the system was under attack for days. A deputy city manager writing quote, this appears to be a coordinated denial of service attack. Okay, coordinated. because the hackers are all sitting in different corners of the globe coordinating because we need to hack into the phoenix police department computer website uh-huh then over the weekend actually with some kid in probably of course pushing a button yeah go bot script kitty city police memo said because of the hacking officers couldn't access

28:17 special computers in their cars that allow them to run names, license plates and check criminal history. So there's some benefit. That was good then. Good on you New Zealand kid. Good work. Well there's always concerns if something happens to any of our public safety systems. The primary communication though is the radios, both fire and police. So they always had constant communication. Exactly. Get your ham radio license and they've got radios. You need one too. We are looking closely at that and offering, proactively looking at solutions to minimize future outages such as this. Smith emphasized these hackers aren't targeting police, they're just trying to find a way into the system. The purpose of the attack is to try to overwhelm our permanent... So they got a visit DDoS? Wait, wait, wait, stop!

28:59 What is the logic here? They do a denial of service attack as a way to get into the system? The system is overloaded. You get into the system through other means. You don't bring the system down and make it stop working. You can't get into it if it's not working. Yeah, but this spokeshold is from 1993 when we would try to, you know, we'd overwhelm, try to get an out of memory error on the web server and then, you know, you could run some scripts or something in the background. Yeah, that's how he's still viewing this problem. He might be running IIS.

29:36 On his antique box. Who knows what they're doing over there in Phoenix. Fences and our firewalls. The goal of the attacker is to try to gain access into our network. Generally to obtain, personally identify the information for financial gain. Oh, financial gain, of course. We're going to steal, you know, this is, okay. All right, I am, I have to stop. You get my, you get my point. You get my point. I'm going to stop it and play the topper clip right off here because we can't which is where it's all the and this is the uh... this is a clip from that in my clips today are are that they had the eclipse i'm sorry i apologize in advance by for some reason i'm looking at my clips like everything's from to greet great grousing about t that commercial television here why is that i don't know it just happened okay now here is the uh...

30:24 This is where it's all leading. This is a this is the worst show on television technologically and it's about technology Oh, yes, and this is the worst scorpion ever bit that you'll ever hear I want you to pay careful attention and we'll talk about it after it's over Okay. That boat, Lisa, with the painting, it's gone. We're accessing his car's operational mainframe. Okay, meet us on the 6th Street Bridge. We'll cut Paulson's engine. All you have to do is arrest him. You'll find the stolen painting in the trunk. No drama, no high-speed chase, no risk. Okay, but do not engage. We don't want to endanger the public. We'll keep it safe, just like the painting. Use the built-in Wi-Fi. Got full barge. We're in. We got control of his car. Cutting engine power.

31:22 And this is why we drive old cars. Well, this is an anti... I think there's a thing that could develop called reverse native advertising. They were hacked into a Mercedes. I won't buy a Mercedes now. Ever. Ever? No. Now, okay, so they got complete control of the car through the Wi-Fi networks that apparently both cars have and they... Well, wait a minute, he accessed the car's mainframe for some reason. Yeah, the mainframe. They've got an AS400 running in that thing. He's got a trailer and he's got some IBM gear. Running, oh, what is that, what was that mainframe operating, the AS400 operating system? What was that? Yeah, the green screen. Yeah.

32:03 So they back into the mainframe of the car's computer. And then it comes up on their screen, the entire dashboard of the other guy's car. And then they, I don't know what they do, but they push a button and it stops the engine. And then the kicker to me was, the engine is now dead, and she says, okay, raising the engine temperature and they show the temperature gates of the car go to the red line. How do you do that? Yeah, by shutting off the valve for the cooler. But you can shut off anything when the engine is stopped! There is no running engine. And I want to remind you, John, that this, according to my CBS insider, is their runaway hit. They love this thing. And of course I like the little Phoebe chick who's in there. Hey, let me stop you there and maybe she's listening. This is making CBS look like a group of foolish idiots who don't know anything. Let's take a look at the ratings.

33:03 I guarantee you this is pe- the people love this. They're so stupid. These are the same people who burn down the city when their team wins. Yeah. Scorpion ratings. Scorpion adjusted up. Oh yeah, Scorpion ratings. Buy the numbers. Let's see what they're doing. We have... Final ratings for October 28th. Scorpion, that's on CBS. 10.39 million viewers. Runaway hit, John. The top for the night. At 8 o'clock, primetime, is NBC's The Voice with 12.4, so 12 and a half million viewers. Scorpion comes in at 9, in the, you know, when The Voice is in its second hour, and comes in with a 10.4! This is a hit! It's a hit! I can't see people watching this for long. The characters are all annoying.

34:00 All of them. There's not one sympathetic character except the girl. Yeah, yeah. She's okay. Yeah, the one from Smash. I love her. Yeah, I can't even see. I don't remember her in Smash, but I didn't watch it religiously like some people. Yeah. Okay. This to me is an insult to the... This is the example of dumbing down the public with this kind of crap. They should be ashamed of themselves at CBS. Ashamed of themselves. There's no attempt to even made... This is not presented as a fantasy. It's presented as a modern cop show.

34:40 keeping it with CBS. It appears to me if you listen to how technology is presented in news reports where the only words that reoccur are glitch, hacker, attack, anonymous. You might throw that in once in a while because it's such a known entity. I did not know, although of course it's now in a book that is coming on the market and Cheryl Atkinson who was at CBS, she's now promoting this very heavily. I think she is doing no one any service with her, well I have a little clip of what she's claiming in this forthcoming book. I did not know that the president of CBS News

35:21 is Rhodes, whose brother is the National Counterterrorism Director for the Obama administration. Did you know that? No, but I've always suspected CBS was more of a mouthpiece than ABC, which is your thesis. Yeah, I did not know that. Here it is. What is his name? So Ben Rhodes is the National Counterterrorism a director for the administration, and David Rhodes is president of CBS News. They should be recusing themselves. This is not even possible.

35:56 that this takes place. And so here's Cheryl Atkinson, formerly of CBS, who famously ran away to go work for some right-wing jobby, which was dissatisfying and disappointing at best. And now she has her book coming out, and again, with unquestioned allegations about things that just happened. Cheryl Atkinson was a CBS News reporter investigating the Obama administration when she discovered last year that two of her computers were repeatedly hacked. After meeting with a confidential source at a McDonald's, he told her he was shocked and flabbergasted by his examination of her computer. A consultant hired by CBS confirmed the hacking. The intruders deleted some files, accessed others, including one on the Benghazi attack. Once, her iMac began wiping out files at hyperspeed before her eyes. Now this, I have a problem with this.

36:45 So was she looking at the finder? Was she looking at a terminal window with a minus F switch listing of a directory? Did it just go poopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoopoop Atkinson isn't giving interviews until the publication next week of her books. Of course. Of course, why not? Yeah, sad, sad Cheryl. By fight for truth against the forces of obstruction, intimidation and harassment in Obama's Washington. But she talked about the problem last spring. Numerous independent analysts have confirmed what we had said earlier, the unauthorized intrusions by sophisticated entities. Sophisticated entities.

37:30 On her we now know Macintosh. Yeah on her iMac not just Macintosh. It was probably a Blue like an Azure one of those old The original with the round mouse you wouldn't be that both my work computer and my home Apple computer which I consider Um, hugely offensive and problem some. Atkinson raises suspicions but doesn't charge the government with spying. A Justice Department statement says that to our knowledge the Justice Department has never compromised Ms. Atkinson's computers or sought information from her devices. Akerson's reporting on the fast and furious gun running scandal won an Emmy, but she says CBS lost interest in the story. Akerson also says she objected when CBS executives withheld an unaired portion of a 60-minute interview with the president the day after the Benghazi attack, after Mitt Romney challenged Obama's language in a debate. Do you believe that this was a terrorist attack?

38:26 Well, it's too early to know exactly how this came about, what group was involved, but obviously it was an attack on Americans. CBS finally posted the exchange online two days before the 2012 presidential election. Who cares about that part? But, you know, I feel that we're being gypped. Gypped? Yeah, shortchanged, and I implore the technology, so-called independent technology press, of which there are many, many, many, many independent, so-called independent, to get on this and start doing... Again? Are you nuts?

39:08 This is the whole idea. This whole thing is falling apart for the same reason that newspapers can't stay in business. There's no money. You can't afford to put somebody on a story like this. There's going to be none of this reporting you keep complaining about that is missing because nobody can afford to pay a reporter anymore to do any of these stories. The only people that could possibly do that would be the New York Times or one of the big networks and they've cut back. on their investigative stuff because like you say the ABC is compromised just working for the government. CBS is compromised as I've always noticed and NBC has always been now hooked up to Comcast has always been hooked up with General Electric before that. There's no, so they're not going to do it. It's not going to happen. It was worth it.

39:52 Well, then maybe we just have to do it. Well, we're doing it as best we can. We don't have a big budget either. No. But at least we can...the very least we can do is just say this is not appropriate. But we don't have the information. I don't mind the complaining about it. Okay. But to be realistic, this is never going to change. In fact, if anything, it's going to get worse. I guarantee it's gonna get worse. I just look at what's going on now with the tech media. Well, let me give you... Bloggers. Yeah. Because they get free stuff and I forget about it. I was just at an event yesterday. It was last night. They got a lot of free stuff. Yeah? Yeah. Forget about it. I discovered one. Here's one. And I was... palm to the forehead. You might have heard about the protest in Hungary regarding the internet tax.

40:45 Have you heard about this? No, no, you got me. Oh, I thought you might have, no, I thought you would have known a little bit about that. No, no, I missed it. Well, I have a couple stories here. Hungarians marched in protest against internet tax plan. Euronews has, they don't have any clips, but we're talking tens of thousands of people on the streets of Hungary, Budapest, And if you look at The Guardian who was reporting on this, you see like just droves of people and a second mass rally, part of growing discontent with Orban government, which many accuse of creeping authoritarianism.

41:27 And so what the story is, and this is organized, John, you don't just have 35, 40,000 people just show up because they're pissed off about attacks. Yes. No, never happened. No. I mean, your team wins. Yeah. People will show up at the burn stuff, but this is organized and organized too. They got to a good point. They've got signs, they've got lights. And I remember, like, some... what was going on with Hungary, Hungary, Hungary? And I remembered, and here it is, that they have agreed to host part of Gazprom's South Stream pipeline.

42:05 much to the chagrin of NATO members and EU. And check it out! Nice. Nice! Oh, it gets better. Victoria Noodleman... Oh no! ...known as Newland, gave the keynote address at the 2014 US-Central Europe Strategy Forum And now there's no video that I could find, but I did find a transcript of her speech on, of course, the state.gov website. And she says here, this is very interesting,

42:43 Today we must maintain that solidarity with Ukraine and unity within the transatlantic community. Implementing sanctions isn't easy and many countries are paying a steep price. We know that, but history shows the cost of inaction and disunity in the face of a determined aggressor will be high. Then we go down a little bit. Every country... Oh, here it is. I'm sorry. I should have marked this up. I didn't do that. Today I asked the leaders how can... Oh yeah. Just as we work together to defend our values externally, we must fortify them internally. In Central Europe today, I would argue, the internal threats of democracy and freedom are just as worrying. Across the region, the twin cancers of democratic backsliding and corruption

43:30 are threatening the dream so many have worked for since 1989. And even as they reap the benefits of NATO and EU membership, I'm looking at you Hungary, we find leaders in the region who seem to have forgotten the values on which these institutions are based. So today I ask their leaders, how can you sleep under your NATO Article 5 blanket at night while pushing illiberal democracy by day, whipping up nationalism, restricting free press, or demonizing civil society? I ask the same of those who shield crooked officials from prosecution, bypass parliament when convenient, or cut dirty deals that increase their country's dependence on one source of energy despite their stated policy of diversification. I feel regime change coming.

44:15 And it starts under the guise of, oh, internet freedom, they want to tax us. And this is some like, wow, like a stretch. If they can pull this one off, I give the State Department 10 points. Well, look at if you just look at the pictures, John, they've got 40,000 people. walking, saying, oh, this is about the one euro tax or something. Because you can make... David Maguirenco Because you're trying nothing. Adam Rauch Because you can make phone calls on the internet and... David Maguirenco Oh, I see. Okay. Adam Rauch But if you look a little further, you see all of these articles about the South Stream Pipeline, which, you know, no one wants any part of because you're giving evil Russia a... David Maguirenco Another source of income. Adam Rauch Yeah, another source directly into Europe.

44:59 So yeah, I think they can do this. I think that this is, it is so easy now to pull, you just throw a net neutrality, internet freedom, you know, I'm gay, whatever it is, people will go for that. Let's keep an eye on it. Well, definitely. And I think you're onto something. I think also that the other thing, the most interesting Overlook story seems to me is the mysterious death of the total CEO? Yeah, the total CEO. And because the total CEO is doing all kinds of deals with Russia. Yeah. Screw the EU. Again, I think it's challenging. I find it hard to think if we're going to take this guy out, why in Russia, you know, with in a

45:50 in a big, a reasonably big airport with a snowplow? I mean, come on. Well, come on, think of it from another perspective. What great thing could we possibly do? Now that's true. I'm with you on that. Russia looked like a bunch of boneheads. I'm with you on that. And meanwhile, get rid of this guy because he's trouble. Now the big news, which started in Germany and it came through the Polish portion of our the Germanic-Polish portion of our global intelligence network, is that Putin has pancreatic cancer. And this has been circling for a week or two. I heard that one. Had you not heard this? No. Yeah, and finally Putin spoke... this is not really reported at all. I haven't seen much in the Western press. Putin's spokesman said, shut up, shut your trap, or something to that effect.

46:43 And, you know, of course, it's the point of circulating a false rumor about this. Well, Russia has a long history of leaders dying and then, you know, Stalin... Usually poisoned by somebody in the regime. Sure. And then it's, you know, who takes over. These are totalitarian states into some regard. So who takes over? Who fills up the vacuum? So that's why it's interesting. Well, that guy that he's been changing places with, I think would be our guy. Medvedev? Yeah, Medvedev.

47:19 Hmm or medvedev medvedev medvedev medvedev medvedev medvedev It's a different pronunciation than everyone's pronouncing it according to our sources. We're doing it wrong. Yeah, medvedev. He's always played ball Yeah, well, you know whether he has the skills to stay in an office like that is another Putin has canceled a number of appearances that were supposedly important people saying hey his face looks a little bloated and Well, it says Steve Jobs had a similar ailment. His face never got bloated. This could be early days from medication, Pretnisone or other cancer-like... The New York Post cited sources last week saying Putin was suffering from pancreatic cancer. It suggested the information came from an unnamed elderly German doctor who had been treating Putin until recently. So that's where I got it from, from the German sources. I don't know. I don't know. Anything's possible.

48:18 But things do continue and for some reason we've decided that this is the screw Putin. Everything's his fault. The rocket that blew up? Of course, Russian rocket Putin. I'd be more likely to blame Elon Musk for that rocket explosion, personally. And then we have these European flights, which is just hilarious. closely watching Russian air activity over Europe. What's going on there? Nothing. A very startling announcement from NATO today. Startling! That they are concerned about some stepped up Russian air activity over European airspace where thousands of commercial airliners fly. Let me put up a map for a minute. This is right, she put up a map and nothing else appeared on the map.

49:05 There's no arrows, no nothing. Just a map. Just a map. And just let's leave it up there and walk through what is happening between NATO and the Russians. Over the last two days, NATO has monitored an increased number of Russian flights. They have been over the North Atlantic, the Balkans, the Baltic and to the east in... And we've got AWACS flying all over the place. This is nothing new. Nothing new. The Black Sea. A number of European air forces have responded. They are intercepting these flights. They are generally Russian bear bombers with refueling aircraft in groups of eight. Now, here's the problem. They're not doing anything particularly illegal. They're not violating airspace. Exactly. They're not doing anything wrong other than just we need to do a story.

49:55 They are being intercepted. There has been no startling military move. But the problem, they are not filing flight plans. They are not using their transponders and they are not in radio. You know, I look, I know a little bit about flying in Europe. You know, you don't fly around, you don't hear the military aircraft talking to civilian ATC. They don't file flight plans per se. They fly at very specific areas, routes. All of this was in international airspace. You know, where is the... So we got Barbara Starr who has a set at CNN Pentagon. She sits in a little box all day and they hand her the script and she reads it. The woman is the female lurch.

50:38 And she just it's this is not reporting. No contact with civilian air traffic control over Europe. This is raising concerns. These civilian air traffic controllers, the commercial aircraft that fly all over the European continent, those air traffic controllers need to know what is out there and the Russians are keeping silent. It can be a very dangerous situation. Well, don't stop there. Let's go straight into more Putinism can be a very very disturbing situation at least for now. Stand by. Thank you. There's other breaking news we're following the White House has been hit by hackers and the cybersecurity breach is thought to have originated in Russia. Hit by hackers and then go straight to Pamela again. This was non-stop yesterday. Well this is like somebody sent the word out to get on to on this case. Yes. But the question that I would as most reporters if you listen to the report

51:32 There's no context. She doesn't say, is this the way they've been doing it for the last 15 years? No. Is this the way they've been doing it for the last year? Is this the way they just started? They used to be very cooperative and they used to give information to everybody about what they were up to when they were flying around in international airspace. But now they stopped and now they're doing this. That question was never asked. No, of course not. As far as we know, this is what the Russians have been doing since the end of World War II. Yeah. Yes. Indeed. There was, strangely enough, I couldn't believe my ears, there was a question in the State Department briefing about Putin's Volodya speech, which we played snippets from on, was that Sunday?

52:22 I don't know when it was a while back. I think it was two shows ago. Two shows ago. Where he said, hey, you know, America is spying on everybody. They're blackmailing world leaders. You know, they're upsetting the apple cart. Their idea of going in regime change, internet freedom, democracy doesn't seem to be working. Everything's in turmoil and they got to stop doing that. Yeah. And they got to stop doing it. And he said, we're going to try to be calm and cool and collected. And so there was a question about this speech and the entire Well, we're the only one covering it. One minute and 17 seconds of... We're the only ones covering it. Even RT doesn't cover it. Just curious as to whether this building has a response to comments he made this morning about the US acting like a big brother... President Putin? President Putin, yeah. Dismantling international law and blackmailing world leaders. He was saying that US leadership is

53:18 leading to greater world anarchy. I'm just curious about your thoughts on that. Well, we have certainly seen the comments. The United States does not seek confrontation with Russia, but we cannot and will not compromise on the principles on which security in Europe and North America rest. We've said repeatedly we would be firm about principles at stake. There may be a disagreement on them, but we remain committed to upholding Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity. We've consistently pointed out from here that the United States and Russia have been able to work together on a range of issues, whether that's destroying nuclear stockpiles, to cooperating to remove and destroy Syria's chemical weapons. So our focus is on continuing to engage with Russia on areas of mutual concern.

54:09 And we're hopeful that we'll be able to continue to do that while we still certainly have disagreements on some issues and we're gonna stand by our principles. And I'm just going to restate, I'm pretty sure that we're all just... Everyone's playing in the same game. You know what I mean? Putin's gotta be in on the game. He's not sitting there by himself. Everyone's gotta be talking to each other. Hey, I got a good one. Yeah, why don't you say that we're spying on everybody? Okay? I don't think it's that I actually don't believe that hmm. Hmm. I think they're trying to fuck the guy hmm

54:48 And his response is, you know, he's, and I think he's trying to, you know, find some ways to circumvent the, I was listening to one of these, I think it was a public radio thing, something, and I forgot about this. During the Reagan administration, when they were trying to stop when they were really having a little issue with the Soviet Union, the evil empire, which I don't want to remind people that when...I had been there during this period. And when Reagan...and I thought it was interesting, when Reagan used to always say, the evil empire, the evil empire, the evil empire, then he visited it and never used that term again because you saw what was going on. It was...the place was falling apart. And people were dying from hunger. So they went to the Saudis.

55:38 to tell them to crank up the oil production or else and they dropped, and I have to look this up because I just heard that. But isn't this exactly the same thing that's happening now with the oil production? Yes, yes, but this is what was interesting. They dropped the price of oil to $10 a barrel and it broke Russia. Yeah. Right now the price of oil is down in the 80s and Goldman Sachs is gonna go to 75. I think it goes low as 50. Or 40 maybe. 40 is what it's supposed to be, according to all the historians. And this...so Russia doesn't...they rely on...they make a lot of money on this high-priced oil. And so, yeah, I think it's all about Russia, the oil breaking...I don't know exactly where we get...there's something...I still think there's something missing from our analysis.

56:26 that the Russians have done a deal or they won't... Snowden! They won't play... oh, shit. Snowden! That's my thesis! It's all about it! He got Snowden! It pisses everybody off! And when Snowden got his... right. Got his little position. He got his... Pass the stay in Russia. Well right now right now the Yes, no it is the problem. It's been snowing all along the three the three party talks the the trio We've got the EU we've got Ukraine and Russia talking about the prepayment of their gas Russia claims to have Filled up all of the reserve holes in the earth, which is the north of the Netherlands, which is Germany With their gas for the winter, so everyone's good to go

57:13 If they will release that. If they ever pay. Yeah. But Ukraine, it could be very cold there this winter. And they're trying to figure it out. They want to pay three billion instead of five billion. A bunch of cheap, cheap skates there. And what happened to the money? They had all this IMF money. Where did that go? Nobody asked that question. That should have gone straight to the Russians to pay off the bill. Yeah, that's what it was for. Yeah, that's what it was for. Big mess, a big mess. But I just find it interesting that we're conjuring up all these images again of Russia being the hackers. For all I know, even the White House network could be a big bunch of baloney just to pin something else on the Russians. I'm tired of it, quite honestly.

58:01 Well, I'm looking at my clips trying to see if I can back you up here, but I don't have anything. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak. Well, in the morning, you Adam Curry in the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground, feed the air, subs in the water and all the dames and all the nights out. Yeah. Good rap there. And in the morning to everyone in the chat room and on the stream, no agenda stream dot com. Good to have all of you here. Human resources depleting your nine point six million dollar value in the morning to 20 watt bulb. brought us the artwork for episode 664 and again a huge selection. Thank you so much. Of course this also had to do with our seventh anniversary. We're now in our eighth year.

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1:12:01 From Sir Matt, thank you for your courage in seven years of great service. This donation should see me hit the baronet level. Barony hopefully soon to come. Hope to be hitting them in the mouth for many years, many more years. And I wanted to make mention, Miss Mickey and I have decided April 2015, Australia and New Zealand. Good. So we need suggestions, ideas, help, places to stay. Well maybe I'll make a trip down there too. For my birthday for the threesome no no threesomes threesomes are out Yeah, we could do that for you. I think it would ruin the dynamics of the show the threesome We're having you in Australia wouldn't be good. Yeah, well maybe in Australia, but not with you, too But so I I would like to go to Perth because we always talk about it's beautiful. That's a long haul. Maybe you can start there. Oh

1:12:56 You can start, you can start. I'm not down for... I love the idea of going to Perth. Why not? I have a special trip. Look, you go in Australia, there's gonna be travel involved if you're gonna go to more than one place. I'm gonna go to Sydney and Brisbane and then maybe... How about Melbourne? Okay, I'll go to some other great. I or Brisbane. I don't know and the Great Barrier Reef And then we've got to go to New Zealand we got a guy and I'm out of I can't get no no no it's not gonna happen well with this we're going to do it and we're thinking you're gonna have a ball we're thinking minimum to maybe three weeks yeah So we're gonna fight. I can't do three and so we need to do meetups We need to have stuff we need organizers We have to figure out what the big spot for the big meetup will be I'll go to that a Sydney Opera House

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1:18:02 We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, Slade. Shut up, Slade. Yeah. Shut up. Do you feel seven? Yeah. You know, it's hard to believe we did have done this show for seven years. Yeah. Because we started it in, you know, as a kind of an experiment and then it developed and it really took off, I'd still say around show 200.

1:18:43 And when we came up with the formula that we're using. Was that 200? Was that the tipping point? I think it was show 200. There's good stuff all through. I mean, the show is a lot of people listen to all the shows. I don't know why they'd want to do that. But show 200 and then that's when we were self-aware. I think it's show 200, we became self-aware. That's why we did show 200.1 to explain the show. Right. Do you remember? Yeah. Oh yeah. That's right. 200.5. Yeah, 200.5 right was it was this bonus show that we did for people that donated to the 200 Club And at that point we had, especially the 200 Club, we had become, I think we knew what we were doing from then on and then it just got better. And then there was the Pipeline show, I think was another turning point, which was, I forgot what show that was, it was 548 or something. That was another turning point. And then the show is now, we just essentially figured that everything the media put

1:19:43 puts out there is all bullcrap. Yeah, every single bit is. It's like a giant scam. Let me, since we had some donations regarding Ebola, we'll just stick with Ebola for a moment since it does not seem to be going away. And the President did his like 15 minutes, it's just hilarious. And thank, I thank my lucky stars that I see No Agenda producers and listeners tweeting saying, wow, you know, they just threw those white coats on those doctors in the background to make it look like they just came from the operating room. And it's so true. It is so... Set design. Yes. Yeah. But even the creases are still in the sleeves, you know, from...there's been on the shelf at the White House for so long. And they say, oh, this is no good. You're wearing your suit and a tie. Here, throw this on.

1:18:43 And when we came up with the formula that we're using. Was that 200? Was that the tipping point? I think it was show 200. There's good stuff all through. I mean, the show is a lot of people listen to all the shows. I don't know why they'd want to do that. But show 200 and then that's when we were self-aware. I think it's show 200, we became self-aware. That's why we did show 200.1 to explain the show. Right. Do you remember? Yeah. Oh yeah. That's right. 200.5. Yeah, 200.5 right was it was this bonus show that we did for people that donated to the 200 Club And at that point we had, especially the 200 Club, we had become, I think we knew what we were doing from then on and then it just got better. And then there was the Pipeline show, I think was another turning point, which was, I forgot what show that was, it was 548 or something. That was another turning point. And then the show is now, we just essentially figured that everything the media put

1:19:43 puts out there is all bullcrap. Yeah, every single bit is. It's like a giant scam. Let me, since we had some donations regarding Ebola, we'll just stick with Ebola for a moment since it does not seem to be going away. And the President did his like 15 minutes, it's just hilarious. And thank, I thank my lucky stars that I see No Agenda producers and listeners tweeting saying, wow, you know, they just threw those white coats on those doctors in the background to make it look like they just came from the operating room. And it's so true. It is so... Set design. Yes. Yeah. But even the creases are still in the sleeves, you know, from...there's been on the shelf at the White House for so long. And they say, oh, this is no good. You're wearing your suit and a tie. Here, throw this on.

1:20:35 It's really pathetic. Pathetic, pathetic. So I do have a couple clips. One is the, just the inevitable and it was even, we went to the Hebe, the H-E-B to pick up some Halloween candy. And I always pick up the New York. The H-E-B. That's our supermarket. Hebe. H-E-B. It's a big Texas outfit. I must have, yeah, I've probably seen them. Yeah, sure. And I always pick up the New York Times and the front page of the New York Times has this the top photo so must have been the top third of the page is Maybe like four kind of constructed Buildings, it's small, you know, like little garage type buildings and it's a nighttime photo and it says Where are the Ebola patients?

1:21:31 I said, we've got the camp, we've got the troops, but no one's showing up. They can't find him. There's no...and the New York Times, I thought this was pretty interesting that they are saying, this is strange. We've got all this effort going and where are they? And of course, now we have more and more reports, this is from Euronews, about the slowing rate of new cases. At a certain point, when you can't show us video of people people with their blood popping out of their eyeballs and their other orifices and, you know, projectile vomiting. We have seen nothing of that. And please, look around, search for images of Ebola sufferers, big blisters. We have seen none of that. None of it. So at a certain point it gets hard to even to continue to dupe the news media who are also going,

1:22:25 Well, I don't want and of course now they don't want to go over there because of all that's to be in quarantine Makes so much sense. So it is a scam That you know, my my take on it is to get troops into West Africa with all this new oil And then we'll see how that turns out. Yeah, you got to protect the oil Liberia may be experiencing a slowdown in the rate of new cases of the deadly Ebola virus according to the World Health Organization The country has reportedly seen a drop in burial burials and new hospital admissions, while the number of confirmed cases has levelled out. Bruce Aylward is in charge of the operational response to the virus outbreak.

1:23:01 With the concerted community engagement with Save Burials, with a big push on getting the right information out through the right channels, you can rapidly get the behavior changes that are critical to protecting populations and helping them protect themselves. And that can translate into positive trends in terms of the disease. He was keen to highlight that while the rate of new cases is subsiding, Ebola is not yet under control. But if the positive trend continues, he says the worst affected countries should be able to meet December targets for better containing the disease. So I have a number of issues, mainly the first one is with the numbers. I just out of the corner of my eye, I see CNN Ebola kills 4910 in West Africa. And I see that I read all I go straight to the source of the World Health Organization and the CDC and they throw these numbers around with no

1:23:54 no backing to the information. How do they get this? Where did it come from? And if it's doubling every month, how do you get to a million by February? You can't do that. You know, you just can't get to those numbers. And it's kind of like the Syrian...how many people...we tracked this down finally, the Syrian numbers, which was based on computer models. Well, we had this many people in that area and this square meterage, so therefore it must be 200,000 people. While I don't doubt that there's a lot of people who are dead, and I don't doubt that people have died from Ebola, I'd like to at least have someone ask the question, how did you count that? 4,910, not 11, not 9. So somewhere someone has numbers but they never give that to you. And now it apparently is going down. So they could just be making it all up.

1:24:51 Here is Fauci, of course, we had to take Frieden off. Frieden is the director of the CDC. This Fauci guy is the guy who I think is, you know, he's a little sketchy. He has ties to the vaccine industry. He's a big, big player also with HIV, with... What's the name of that drug, John? The cancer drug that... The Gardasil? No, for AIDS, HIV. Oh yeah, yeah. I'm sorry, I'm spacing on it. So the guy has been involved in all kinds of things like that. And if you look around, you'll see that many people are very outspoken about his relationship to the pharmaceutical industry. So Frieden screws up and he did not do a good job

1:25:39 Certainly not for the president and he did not make the president look good in his testimony on the hill so now they bring in Fauci and It's was very obvious where we're headed with all this Finally there was a story in the New York Times this week Mike Leventhal referred to it at the end of his report that Scientists had come up with a vaccine a decade ago. That was a hundred percent effective in stopping Ebola in monkeys, but because of the fact that the disease then was so rare that there wasn't market. There wasn't an incentive to test it and to develop it. Question, is there some way? First of all, do you think we could have had, if there had been a full-speed effort ten years ago, could we have had an Ebola vaccine by now? And secondly, is there some way, when there is so little market for it, that we can get these things developed just in case we get into this kind of situation? Answer to both questions. Certainly without pharmaceutical backing,

1:26:36 you're not going to get a vaccine for sure. We could have had one now, you can't predict because there's scientific issues there. We may not scientifically have been able to do it. But what the government is doing now through a program called BARDA, the Biomedical Advanced Research Development Authority, is to be able to finance things where you can stockpile. So the government is realizing that And even if there isn't the need out there now, there may be the need in the future. And that's what that agency is doing. How close are we to a vaccine? Well, again, I can't predict. I can tell you we're moving along. I told you last week we're in phase one. We're going to finish that in November. Then we're going to go and do a much larger trial in West Africa, likely in Liberia and Monrovia, to determine if it works.

1:27:19 That's what we need to make sure, that it works. Because you don't want to distribute a vaccine that could be harmful or not work. The sooner we prove it's worked, the sooner we can distribute it widely. Yes, try it on some black people first. When were they in Africa? Now he mentioned something here which I, with my no agenda ears on, went to look up immediately. The BARDA, Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority. This is not a very good organization. It falls now not only on the Health and Human Services, but also under the Department of Homeland Security since its inception. And there's all kinds of powers that this BARDA has. They pretty much are tasked with biodefense medical countermeasures. And so to have them—and you never heard them involved with the swine flu. This never came up.

1:28:22 leading me to believe that there is some concern or some connection to a maybe a weaponized version or that this was... How about this was a weapon to begin with? Yes. Well, and I'm... And this is what you... Which would explain the reason the Russians already have three vaccines. Right. Interesting. BARDA has the power, let me see where it was, to, under martial law of course, to force vaccination, according to the Wikipedia page that is, which is not very heartening. But it is completely a defense, Department of Defense oriented agency, and according to Fauci, they're in charge of it now. Great.

1:29:14 Johnson & Johnson has announced they're going to speed up their Ebola vaccine development. I think people are just rushing to get to the finish line first. I also heard from our intelligence network that there was a request from Germany to the European, the EU patent office regarding an Ebola vaccine of which I have not been able to find any patent. So there's something...people are rushing. Something is definitely happening with this. Interesting. Yeah. It is of course still being politicized, obviously. Elizabeth Warren, Pocahontas on the CBS morning show there with Gail and Charlie. We are one week out for the midterms. We want to get to sort of politics, what's going on in the country, but first on the issue of Ebola. Governor Chris Christie said this morning he doesn't think his policy of involuntary quarantine is draconian. He says the CDC has been behind on this.

1:30:10 He should bring out his scientists who are advising him on that because we know that we want to be led by the science. That's what's going to keep people safe. Science, not politics. I think that's what's critical. Are you worried about it? Science. Science. Well, of course I'm worried, but you know, part of this reminds me, this is why elections matter and why they matter over time. She says we put money into funding Ebola. Not funding for a vaccine, but funding for Ebola. Hmm. Well, I think this is one of the great catches that you've made today. Warren!

1:30:58 I would say, although I'm thinking she would have no knowledge of this. No, but it's there. I think it was just a yeah, it was a but I'm going to just give her the benefit of the doubt and just say it was a flub. You know, Ebola is not new. We've known about it for a long time. And we were putting money into funding Ebola many years ago. And the Republicans have cut funding overall for medical research for the National Institute of Health. And Ebola has not been a priority. So now we're in a position where instead of making those investments up front,

1:31:34 We wait until people die, now we're gonna spend billions of dollars and some real risk to our country. We can't just run this country one crisis to another. What Congress is supposed to do is help us make the investments early and make sure that it keeps us all safe. We believe in science. That's right. She is so annoying. She gets annoying, she's got that kind of schoolmarm style of speaking that's very condescending and patronizing. I don't think she's gonna cut the mustard unless some consultants get in there and get her out of that, but I don't think you can. I think this is her. And that's her hook also. I think that's what a lot of people are endeared by, which is...

1:32:25 This is how people at some of these dinner parties talk, you know, we can't just completely like that. Last clip comes from, I thought this was a big, big mistake. I don't know if he's allowed to make up his own talking points or where this came from. So we had, there was some confusion and we're still waiting for Ron Klain's hair to show up and say something. Our Ebola czar, where is he? Could he do one statement? Okay, and he's responsible for a whole of government approach for coordinating that. But then we have the disparaging, we have the disparate

1:33:04 paths where our combat troops who are of course, you know, fighting Ebola, whatever, 4,000 of them in West Africa, they will need to go into a low security type of quarantine for 21 days when they return. But there's, you know, there's differences now and it's not coordinated. Let's put it that way. It's confusing. It's not coordinated. And now Josh Earnest, the spokeshole for the White House is going to try and explain why for the military this is very normal. A military guy. They do whatever they're told is what he's trying to say, but he puts it into terms that were just the stupidest thing I've ever heard. It simply will be easier to directly and actively monitor their health.

1:33:46 if their movements are restricted to certain locations. We're talking about thousands of military personnel that are traveling from bases all across the globe. In order to monitor their health, it simply is easier to do that if their movements are restricted and they're all co-located. Other thing that is important for us, I think at this point to acknowledge, is that this is indicative of the kinds of sacrifices that our military service members make on a daily basis. Now let's just think about that. Did he say co-located? Uh, he may have said that. You want me to roll it back? Yeah, I mean this seems like an odd term to be using in this... I mean, as a computer... It's easier to do that if their movements are restricted, um, and they're all co-located. Yeah, but they're servers. That's what he said, yeah, they're servers. Get in that rack, you sergeant. Get in that cage.

1:34:38 And so now he is going to talk about sacrifices that our uniformed men and women make when they are serving our country, the greatest country in the universe, the indispensable nation. Can you give me an example of some of these sacrifices? Well, let me cue it up to where he says the state system. Another thing that is important for us, I think at this point to acknowledge, is that this is indicative of the kinds of sacrifices that our military service members make on a daily basis. Okay. I got some ideas. I got ideas. Okay, give me some ideas. What do you got? Okay, so sacrifices. Yeah. They're gonna be away from their family. Yeah, that would be one for sure. They have to eat the crappy catered food that they bring in from the third party. Yeah, that's also true.

1:35:22 They don't have enough clothes to wear. They're going to be short-chains on that. That's for sure. They probably won't be able to take enough showers. They won't be able to go play sports. They won't be able to watch the Giants. But take it a little bit further, not just their quarantine, but in general, when you are in the armed services, you make sacrifices. You can make the ultimate... You have to show up to work. You've got to show up to work. You're thrown in jail. It's a lot different than a normal worker who just slacks off. None of these is the example he is going to use. What? Yes. So he's now comparing- He brings up this vapid idea about a haircut? So he's comparing Ebola quarantine to a haircut. But that's a haircut that they get every couple of weeks because it is in the best interest of their unit and it maintains unit cohesion. And that is the policy of the military. And that obviously is a situation in which

1:36:46 application of military policy is not or is necessarily different than the application of policy in a civilian context. But we're not talking about haircuts, we're talking about even outbreak of disease. He dug himself so deep with this that the president went, what, excuse me, if we're talking about quarantine from Ebola, not haircuts. I agree. Of course we're not. I'm not trying to suggest that it's somehow unimportant. I think it is a useful illustration though, that the kinds of sacrifices that are made when you make a uniform... How about getting shot at? How about getting blown up by an IED? That is not really a sacrifice unless you're a male model. How about living in the desert for a year at a time without seeing your family? What is wrong with you? What an idiot! It's shitty to get a military haircut.

1:37:38 That's a sacrifice to him. Is this guy stupid or what? Wow. Yeah, that's borderline clip of the day, but no. No, no, no, no. So we'll keep our eye on this Barda outfit and see what they come up with. I don't like that. No, I don't either. Although it could just be a money sucking drinking club. Now they also, big oil strike in Congo. And I've learned that it's either the Democratic Republic of Condo, uh, Condo. Yeah, in the condo of Congo, or it's just Congo, not the Congo, Congo. And there's a big oil strike, so I'm wondering if they should get some Ebola so we can send some troops over there to save them. We'll keep an eye on that. We'll keep our eye on it. We'll see. We'll keep our eye on it. I, I, you know, we'll see. You're right. We'll keep our eye on it.

1:38:29 Well, I can't transition out of that. I did promise on Twitter that I'd mention something, and there was this Gardasil fact that's floating around, and there's some guy on Twitter, it just proves everything they say on here proves it is great. Right. And I said I would comment, the thing is, it's just all propaganda, half of this stuff is not even... Did you show up with any homework for this? Nah, I have the thing in front of me. I'm going to read the one segment that Gardasil has been on, I guess, for quite a while. Gardasil, and the fact is this, the question, has Gardasil already begun lowering the incidence of cervical cancer? Answer, not yet. No. No. No. That's enough. I'm done. That's all you need to know. Okay.

1:39:23 All right, I'll lay one on you then. Wait, hold on a second. I forgot to mention I got a letter from Comey. You mean the FBI director Comey? Yeah, yeah, yeah. From FBI, blah, blah, blah. On, are received FBI slash US slash FL slash X9-14, dear beneficiary. Please, I would like you to get back with us if you have any contract inheritance winning fund which you have not received in the past years and you have been scammed out of it. On hearing from you, I shall provide a number for you to reach me. This is urgent. Email me at jamesconleyoffix at yandex.com. I got that one too. Because he's at Yandex, obviously. And yours faithfully, James Comey. Now, I got a PayPal

1:40:12 Scam letter that it was like I had to change my password or some bogus thing and I said it was PayPal I don't remember it exactly but something like scam at PayPal.com you forward it to scam at PayPal.com or some other oh I didn't know that yeah Yeah, there's an e there's an email box if you get one of these you forward it you and you forward it completely with all the headers and everything so it's forwarded and and then PayPal takes it from there the FBI has absolutely nothing They don't have, they have like a complicated, I tried it once before, a complicated process if you get a scam letter from James Comey. I should be able to send this to the FBI and say, what is this? They're obviously sending them out by the millions. Why don't you do something about it or anything or just send it to them with a header so they, they don't care. No.

1:41:03 But not all there. They want it to be easy. They want to kick back, want to have unencrypted devices so they can spy on you and just, you know, remotely. They don't want to do any work. You've made this point very clear. They do not want to do any work. Now, I got another note from Al Hillsburg. Who's this? And I almost had this clip. I'm going to clip it if I see it again. But McDonald's has these very strange commercials out. McDonald's has got a program going on that I think is counterproductive and may sink the company. The commercials, and if you ever see one, clip it for anybody out there. It starts off with, what is wrong with McDonald's?

1:41:43 And it goes from thing to thing, item to item. Oh, pink slime is terrible. Oh, there's the burgers doesn't what it looks like in the picture. They go on with all these problems that they bring horrible memories to mind when they go over these things. This is a McDonald's commercial. I said, who's putting this commercial on? It must be Burger King. And it was just a bunch of slams against McDonald's and at the end they say, we're solving these problems or something. But at the end, and then it said McDonald's, we're on your side or something. You don't have a clip? No, I don't have the clip. I'm sorry. This is not very well prepared. Well, I just, I have to read this note. There's a reason I set it up that way. So just so I can read it. Okay. All right. Got it. I'm sorry. I don't have the clip, but I will have the clip shortly.

1:42:31 It's the weirdest thing you've ever seen, and I hate to say that. Last week, I shared with you your newest infographic about McDonald's. This is from a PR company. I get these all the time where you get this, hey, I noticed you're talking about this on your website. Here's an infographic you can use for free. Yeah, it's an infographic. So there's an infographic floating around about McDonald's, and I was wondering if you had a chance to see it. I hope you don't mind my follow-up. Okay, uh-huh. Can you imagine that McDonald's golden arches are more recognizable than the Holy Cross? The symbol of the Catholic faith? Well, it's a symbol more than just the Catholic faith, but okay, insult the other Protestant religions. This controversial fact may come as a total surprise to your readers.

1:43:13 You can find this and other interesting McDonald's facts related to finance, health, lifestyle, and food in our newest infographic. And he's got another link. And this is the campaign that's going on. Whoever these people are, now they're insulting the Catholic Church? I get these from time to time, and I've replied saying, hey, this is really interesting. I just want to see who's behind it. And you really can't, it's pretty well shielded. You know, it's just, it's a bit... Well obviously, and then this is an anti-promotion. McDonald's pulled this campaign. You don't want to go out telling people, look our arches are more popular than the Holy Cross. Ha ha ha. Isn't that hilarious? We're more popular than Christianity. Yeah, that's going to work. That'll get you more buyers. I think John Lennon tried that. It didn't work out too well.

1:44:04 Which brings us to the great religious hater, Bill Maher. And I think I do have a clip of this. Play that clip. Mar at Cal? Yeah, Mar at Cal. Tonight there is a petition going around Cal asking the university to cancel an invitation to let Bill Maher speak. Maher, of course, a liberal talk show host and the Cal campus is known for its liberal leanings. So Joe, what has some students upset about his appearance? Yeah, as a matter of fact, Ken, this campus is known for its demonstrations, its protests through the last five decades, right? But this one's not about politics. It's not about left and right. This one's about religion.

1:44:49 Mariam Navid, a UC Berkeley student senator, says it's hard enough being Muslim. They look at a Muslim person and they ask, like, so do you believe in terrorism? People ask you that? People have asked me that on, I mean, I've had that experience like a few weeks ago on Telegraph. I mean, obviously, like, the Muslim community has learned to laugh it off, but this is, this is bigotry. But what she does not find funny is a recent talk show hosted by comedian Bill Maher. Criticize bad ideas and of course we know the rule doesn't work as bad but is why it is the motherload of bad ideas She's smart an atheist famously criticizes all religions But some believe he went too far when he insisted a majority of Muslims believe in the violence associated with the extremists We're not making it up that there is that in the Muslim world it is mainstream belief

1:45:42 So Mariam started this change.org petition calling to stop Mar from giving the December graduation speech All right, okay. Here's course I get it yeah now. There's an irony of this of course with this was Mar had Sam Harris on who is who's on a a mission to discredit all faith really and Mar loves that and I did see this with with Ben Affleck and the whole thing everything is just One everyone's wrong. Well, I'm thinking two things one. It's a publicity stunt for more He is not going to give this speech now and if he does give this speech Why was he invited in the first place? There are so many high-end intellectuals that write books and there are professors here and there are different colleges and universities that can give actual commencement speeches Why is this bonehead is a stand-up comic? Why don't we just have a stand-up have an open mic?

1:46:36 And have a bunch of comics come up there and do routines for the graduation. This is, again, University of California just showing itself as a bonehead operation. And I will say that I am a bit on Mar's side in this and Sam Harris because I saw this happen in Europe where this was the number one term, Islamophobe. You're an Islamophobe. Islamophobia. You're an Islamophobe. You're just irrationally afraid of Islam. And the multicultural society, which was going to be this great dream and taking... Now America's a little different because we are an immigration country, although you wouldn't know it anymore from the rules. But the Netherlands and Germany and Scandinavia and all of the Benelux and France, these countries have been overrun with Muslims and it has become a huge tinderbox of a problem.

1:47:36 And the people who early on said, this is not a good idea, were, I don't know, killed. People who made movies saying, here's an artistic view of what we will have in Europe, killed. So I do play some warning. Yeah, no, I can appreciate that, but it's still Bill Maher. Yes, true. Yeah. By the way, I want to mention something backing up because I'm going through my notes. This was a donation that came in very late. Or actually, no, it didn't come in very late. It came in late.

1:48:19 And I should have mentioned his name. I will do it in the second half. This is, and we're not, it's not counted in the donation segment, but he did come in with a 666 donation. You're all over the map, man. And I think he wanted to be, um, the double producership. So we'll, this is Andre Schmid. Okay. And so I'm not going to read this note or do anything else, but I'm, we will give him a producer's credit for today's show. And then he'll get his double producer credit and then we'll read it when the, when it's supposed to be read, which isn't done. Okay, and I'll go back to what we were talking about, which was about Muslims. Yeah. What are you doing? I'm sorry. I'm just going through my paperwork. Yeah, well, you know, like a book, like a guided desk. Why don't you just stamp those paper, stamp the paperwork. It's all good. Sorry. Let me transition from

1:49:08 Yes, anything. Anything. Yes. Let me say, allow me to transition from the Islamophobia, which you will see more of this coming. And so Bill Maher and Sam Harris, I don't like either of those guys. I also didn't think that the director boy was was right either. But I can only I can only speak from what I've seen happen in the past two decades in Europe where the same conversation came up. Now let's go to ISIS, ISIS, baby. Isis, Isis, baby A couple of things going on and this is all relatable back to ISIS, ISIL, Islamic State. We still have now Turkey now apparently opening up a little bit in what they want to do. They're allowing some of the Peshmerga to transition through Turkey. So this whole Kobani, which remember it was an incredibly unimportant town. Well, it's not and we knew it wasn't.

1:50:07 And that's why we have this taking place right now on that border. We have some weird, I did say weird, noises once again coming out of Washington. This is Senator Chambliss. At Chambliss, he's also on one of these committees, isn't he? Oh yeah, Chambliss is all over the place. He's on one of the Homeland Security... Yeah. And the one thing about ISIL we know is they carry out their threats. They will torture, they will maim, and they will behead people. And that's why Controlling them, containing them is not an option. Killing them is the only option. Hell, now you're talking like an American. Killing them, John. Killing them is the only option.

1:50:55 kill them. And the fact that he says that they now abducted 2,500 Yazidi women and are basically distributing them as prizes if you will. Yeah, where's mine? Other ISIS fighters, is that consistent with what you've heard as well? Oh yeah. This is what I heard. It's what I heard. Specific case, but I'm not surprised. Not surprised. We need to kill them all. Makes sense. We need to kill them. Just kill them. Kill them like, swat them like flies. These people are They're very sophisticated in the way, for example, they use the internet. Oh my gosh, they're way beyond the dial-up. They got iPhones, very sophisticated. They're sending women around just as prizes.

1:51:38 of illegal profits from all. They're gonna be rewarding them with women, with money, with promises, whatever lies in the light hereafter I guess that we've heard about jihadists before. We've heard about them. They're just lies. We gotta kill them. I recommend to people out there to get a chance. This week's frontline was all about ISIS and it was actually very well done. Frontline is

1:52:24 a well-produced show as sometimes it drifts toward propaganda, but even when it does, it's well-produced and it's always interesting. And this was all about ISIS and there was a number of segments of it I could have clipped. I did make one kind of a semi-long clip which showed the kind of ludicrous nature of this whole battle that's going on with this ragtag group. And it might be worthwhile to play it before you get into your whatever deconstruction you're up to here. It was really not enough, to be honest with you. I mean, the United States could have done more. Then on June 6th, 2014, ISIS sent several suicide car bombs into downtown Mosul.

1:53:17 And by the way, how messed up is it to live in that country with that? Not good. These bombs, by the way, I don't know what they had in there, but holy crap. Along with ISIS fighters and pickup trucks. In some neighborhoods, they were warmly welcomed. The Iraqi army, on the other hand, was seen as a Shia militia. With no local support, the army had deserted by June 10th with barely a fight. They didn't know how to respond. They didn't want to respond. You know, these were people that didn't want to do any actual work. They were fat cats, I call them. They were people who were earning good money to basically sit at a desk and smoke cigarettes and drink good liquor all day.

1:54:18 In the end, it took only 800 ISIS militants, with the help of local Baathist military cadres, to secure a city of 1.8 million people. Even ISIS was surprised. The original intelligence was that ISIS did not come to invade Mosul. They didn't come to take it over. They came to break a bunch of people out of a prison. But what happens, they roll into the city and the entire Iraqi army collapses. And they make some adjustments very quickly on the spur of the moment and decide, wow, we're not going to just get the prison, we're going to get the whole city. And then they just keep on rolling. For ISIS, the spoils included tons of US-made military equipment. You know, I feel this is just building a backstory.

1:55:09 Well, this is a good backstory, but the tons of US military equipment, I don't know where they got it from, but apparently from the other army, but they show it rolling down the street. Wow. They had lots of tanks. Yeah, but this is building a backstory for something that is just bogus. Well, it could be. And the thing is, though, it's the whole thing, the entire from what I could tell the entire show and people I recommend watching it is a nasty slam against the Obama administration. It's like massive. It's as though they didn't play ball with somebody. Well, there is there are things going on here at home. We just heard Chambliss. Now we have former National Counterterrorism Center Director Michael Leitner. Is it Leitner? Leitner, I think. And he is very clear on what we need to protect the homeland. And

1:56:03 McCarthyism anybody? Michael the social media issue. You guys have monitored it. It's been a helpful tool to you on surveillance. Now it's a recruitment tool in some form or another. What is the best way to deal with it? Well I think this is the biggest change between ISIS and previous elements of Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda wasn't a social media thing. They weren't. As much. ISIS is using social media and it is going after Jihadi cool. What we have to do now... Did he say Jihadi cool? I don't know. That's what it sounded like. I thought it may have been Jihadi Pool. I think he said they're going after Jihadi Cool is what I thought. This is the biggest change between ISIS and previous elements of Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda wasn't a social media thing. They weren't. As much. They are going, ISIS is using social media and it is going after Jihadi Cool. What we have to do now... Show title.

1:56:48 Jihadi cool. Yeah, that is a good shortcut. Jihadi cool. Is counter that message using social media just as effectively and that's not something the US government over the past 10 years has been particularly good at. What do you mean? This is, we're doing it. This is the State Department. This is our thing. This is what we do. This this guy. He's full of shit. This is misdirection. So we have to monitor, we have to engage, and the partnerships between state and local officials and Muslim communities really have to change from what we've done in the past 10 years. Do we have enough Muslim FBI agents? We don't have enough Muslim FBI agents, we don't have enough FBI agents who understand Islam, and we don't have enough people in government who are doing counterterrorism who understand 15- to 29-year-olds. We need some brown shirts!

1:57:31 Need more people spying on other citizens! Come on! You're Muslim! Where'd you get this? This is... I don't recall where I got it from. Well, I do have a clip that... Oh, this is C-SPAN. This is that morning call-in show. Oh, that call-in show. Yeah, yeah. But there's some weird propaganda, and I use that word myself again, and somebody bitches about us complaining about it. There was some strange propaganda that I saw and I think it's cropping up elsewhere. This was Cavuto. This is my WTF. This is Fox. Neil Cavuto. Yeah, Neil Cavuto's on Fox and he's got Keith Alexander. They're Kaiser. First time I've seen him.

1:58:10 And he's been, Keith seems to have been, he's changed. The former director of the NSA who now touts a million dollar a month consultancy. And I think he's been taken out of the loop because he's not playing ball in this interview. Cavuto is essentially, and I was stunned by this interview because it's scripted, and Cavuto has been advocating that the NSA should take, we should be, we're not surveilling the U.S. public enough because we had this shooting in Sacramento and we had some maniac acts.

1:58:45 And there was, and of course these guys are all off, they would be off any radar. And so Cavuto, but Cavuto keeps promoting this with Alexander, and Alexander will have none of it. I just want you to know you're saying essentially quite a bit today. Thank you. And weird three or four times, just letting you know. I've been buzzing you just want to point it out. This killer in California left a pretty clear trail. So why weren't authorities on that trail? Now we're hearing a police shooting suspect in Sacramento, California, had a track record that authorities in several states were well aware of. Authorities there saying that he was deported twice, had a drug conviction before killing two officers, and that no less than Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio had given ICE, had given them a heads up that this guy was a threat.

1:59:32 He is not the only bad guy in our midst though. We're also hearing that Ottawa shooter had extremist ties as well and the man who attacked police with a hatchet in New York City last week was sympathetic to ISIS as well. To former NSA Director General Keith Alexander on if maybe we should loosen those spying reins on the NSA more to keep cap of these guys. Loosen the spying reins a bit? That's what he said. Why would anybody say this? Well, let's listen. Noise goes in a pendulum, as you know, General, and that is the pendulum swinging back toward maybe we need them doing this stuff again. What do you say?

2:00:08 Well, I think there's two issues that we have to look at here when we talk about external threats. First, NSA's roles and responsibility are foreign intelligence. For them to play in this game that you're describing, there has to be a foreign intelligence nexus that they can see that then points back into the country where we can use these programs to help tip off the FBI or local law enforcement. But wouldn't the local guys here, I'm sorry General, a lot of this is coming from local information here of bad guys. He's not a general, isn't he an admiral? No, it was a general, I think. Here. Yeah. Right. So that's the second part. I think what you're referring to, is there a possibility for a program similar to what NSA does on the foreign side for a domestic application? There may be. I don't know. I've looked at this, the Sacramento killings. I think we need to find a way to spy on the Americans. Is that what I'm hearing here? That's what Cavuto is advocating.

2:01:08 hearts and prayers go out to the officers and families of these officers. But I don't know that there is actually a nexus that intelligence could help. I think the real question is, is there a way that we could use domestic or our law enforcement capabilities to help with programs like this? I don't see it yet because I don't see the connection to overseas or to other areas that you could actually connect dots. You know, what we were able to do with the programs that NSA runs is you're able to see foreign communications coming into the United States. What NSA is responsible for in that case is connecting those dots. I didn't see them in either of these, so what you're suggesting, perhaps loosing it, giving something like that to local law enforcement to solve these problems. What about letting the NSA doing what got people upset before? Now a lot of libertarians and free marketeers and those resent the spying and the phone records of it all, but

2:02:03 but maybe allowing it to get on some of these social media sites and the rest that would have... He's talking utter crap. Allowing it to get on these social media sites and the like, he's just, he's just bull. But, but maybe allowing it to get on some of these social media sites and the rest that would have picked up some of the rantings of, of let's say this hatchet attacker in New York or what have you, maybe would have in Canada picked up on the same thing. What do you say? I personally would not be in favor of that. I can see where you're going on it. I'm not sure that you would catch all of that and I think there would be more people out there, kids that are messing around, than folks that are actually doing it right. So that's a tough one. It sounds to me like Cavuto is just a dick. I don't know what his... he's just a dick.

2:02:54 And the Kaiser, I think he...maybe he feels that it should be his...when it comes to things like this, it should be the private industry that he's representing that should do these things. I'm not quite sure. I found the whole thing to be disconcerting. It is strange. And what really bothers me about Cavuto in this case is that this is Fox Business. They're trying to compete with MSNBC...or I'm sorry, CNBC. So why is he going on and on about... condemning the free marketeers and the libertarians and all the kinds of people that would be interested in investing, generally speaking. I just baffling him. He's always given a script to promote something and Alexander wasn't buying it, but of course it could be because he's in the private side or he has to be an apologist for the rest of his life. That's a possibility.

2:03:42 He's not buying any of it and he kicks it all back and Cavuto just is like I left in the lurch by the time this thing was over. Yeah, you really need to be watching France 24 for the next two days. But you really went off the deep end on all this TV stuff you were watching. I was watching a lot of France 24. A lot of France 24. There was absolutely nothing. It was repetitive stories about the one French guy who was killed in the middle of Africa in the Central African Republic and Ebola, Ebola, Ebola, Ebola, Ebola and a few other minor stories. And they just went... In fact, the Total guy that was executed was in a crawler

2:04:24 They never talked about him for the last week. And it's, it's, I believe me, this is what I ended up. I get, but when we go to real news later, I got some stuff that's, it's amusing. We have the nose spray vaccine ad. Please let me continue on some, something that is deconstructive instead of going back to advertising. These are all deconstructed. Yeah. All right. Let's just stick with ISIS for a moment. So the, now the current, theme is the beheading female warriors, the ISIS gal. We have the lone wolves everywhere. Everything, if you've got a hatchet in New York, you're a lone wolf. If you are running down cops in Canada, you're a lone wolf. Canada is now working on authorizing its own internal spying operations.

2:05:15 Coincidentally, yeah, yeah, every everything. There's a guy who was accused of raping his neighbor's pitbull He says Isis sent him so the nutjob it works well, by the way You keep throwing this stuff if there are enough morons in the world certainly in the United States of Gitmo nation they pick up on it and they start to do moronic stuff one of the problems is that The Internet, as well as certain specific Muslim extremists, are really firing up this lone wolf phenomenon. And these— I assert, you, Dianne Feinstein, you are the extremists firing up the lone wolf meme. That is what I assert. You.

2:05:57 You are making people crazy with this. Bone wolf phenomenon and these attacks and the multiplicity of attacks in 2014 show that their propaganda is having some effect. My view of ISIS is I think people do not see the evil and the vicious side of it. Really? We don't see the evil or vicious side of it. And her head is gone. I wish I had that. I'm about to dig that clip up from four years ago, five years ago. Yeah, we do have to find out exactly what you're talking about. Where she's the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, and she asks the head of the CIA, the head of the FBI, the head of the Central Intelligence, all-inclusive agency, all the rest of them, one after the other,

2:06:49 Joint Chiefs of Staff, do you think that within the next six months there'll be a terrorist attack on the homeland? Meaning a terrorist attack, 9-11 style thing. And they all said yes. I think she even alluded that it was a 9-11 style attack. And now, of course, it's not. It's all these smaller things. And of course, the world has never been... That was an accident. The mentally ill person with an axe in a New York subway that somehow connected to ISIS. This is like... No, I don't know. How about the guy raping the pit bull? ISIS sent me. And then of course now Canada, welcome to the party. I already said welcome Canada. I'm happy to have you here. You've been sitting up there looking down, laughing at us, at us, at the idiotic Americans. Worse than we are. Worse. So Toronto Mayor Ford is out.

2:07:44 A new guy is in and I want you to listen to this woman who is from the, I think she was with the Ford re-election committee, and she's freaking out that this other guy is coming in and she may be right about how the taxes will go up and it's all going to be messed up. I think Mayor Ford was loved for a lot of things. You know, certainly he was entertaining, but listen to where she takes it. He's going to tax us out of our house and we have no choice but to move. And it's the ignorance of the people because Doug had a great platform for us average taxpayers. And I just can't imagine what's ahead of us. And I'm horrified. It's like, it's like ISIS coming to Toronto. That's how bad it is. It couldn't be worse.

2:08:33 Holy crap, it's like Isis coming to Toronto One of our producers sent a note mentioning that the CISIS, which is the Canadians, I guess it's their CIA, they had a bill right at the time of this event up for review for funding the Canadian Security Intelligence Services. Yes. Up for review right when this event happened. And now we have these guys, like there's a good story in the CBC's news page where Public Safety Minister Stephen Blaney has tabled to This is the big, the Canadians are getting all bent out of shape about this and this woman that you just had the clip of which was a borderline clip of the day again. In fact, I want you to play that clip again to show, this is our Canadian, we have a good group of listeners in Canada. We try to cover Canada as much as we can. And this is what you're getting and you can thank, I think you can probably thank us for this.

2:09:42 He's gonna tax us out of our house and we have no choice but to move. And it's the ignorance of the people because Doug had a great platform for us average taxpayers. And I just can't imagine what's ahead of us. And I'm horrified. It's like ISIS coming to Toronto. That's how bad it is. It couldn't be worse. Think of the children! It's the same lady. I think it is. Man, oh man, oh man. Yeah. And it went so fast. One event, bingo, boom. And it wasn't even a good event. No. One event, done. All in. I can imagine the meeting.

2:10:28 Okay. What are we going to do about not participating in the global war against ISIS, ISIL, whatever you want to call it. We need some sort of 9-11 event. Oh yeah, but we have no buildings. Oh, that's true. We all live in wood huts. Let me think, what could we do? I don't think it would take that much. We won't need 9-11. The Canadian population seems to be so skittish that if we had somebody stub their toe, they'd freak out. I have an idea. What would that be? Let's get someone to get a rifle and shoot something. Okay. And then we'll just be really freak out about it. Let's do that. I think that will work. What you identified

2:11:11 that the CBC head honcho, the big guy, the big anchor, broadcaster coming on American network television. That was, that's the, yes, that's the giveaway. That's a giveaway. That's when they're all in and it's, that's it. Yeah. It's all part of the same scheme. They're all on the same page now, even though the Canadians, you know, they did a little, just a little thing. Madman. To what end, John? To what end? Uh, money. It's always about the money. Just get more money for these, you know, operations and security operations need more money. You can't get enough money. You can't have enough money.

2:11:55 Frighten the public get more money from the public of course you have to gouge them and And then that lead the life. You know it's the life of a banker well by the way if anybody want if anybody has not seen the wolf of Wall Street Mm-hmm have you seen it? Yes, you must have seen the screener. Yeah, nice. No. No we saw it We saw it on the on the Netflix. I think yeah Wow yeah, why oh I just think it's a great film, but that's the kind of life I think these guys would like to lead. Yeah, now the movie was too long. It was too long. It was too long. Yeah, no, you're probably right. Yeah, just yeah, and they do. They lead those kinds of, in fact,

2:12:32 I was going to wait for this. I think I'll do it now and before we go into our break. There were two clips regarding the election. We have it in America here. This is really under-publicized worldwide, whereas our presidential election is the big circus and it's the big, big... But the midterms where we elect our Congress, our representatives and our senators, this is really important. This is where the real power is in American politics, if you can speak of any true actual power that people are true to the people they represent, because I think they're just all dicks.

2:13:11 Here's President Obama out there shilling and he makes a joke which he he it's a joke But then he says something else would makes it not a joke and it's just it's annoying to hear the president do this. So one week Wisconsin one week One week from today you get to choose a new government and because early voting runs through this Friday You don't have to wait till election day. You can vote all week. I mean you can only vote once It's in Chicago now

2:13:47 You know, I'm teasing SkyGuard messing with you. That was a long time ago. You can only vote once, but you can vote any time this week. Is anybody sick of this guy's patter? Yeah, I am. This is video and this is clearly a Republican sponsored, you know, the blaze right wing The Rebel, what's it called, Rebel Pundit is the name of this organization, not a non-profit. And it is, there's this video of black Chicago activists.

2:14:26 And I thought it was really refreshing to hear them speak. So everyone you see in this video is black and standing in front of boarded up projects in Chicago, standing in front of the correctional facility, really saying something. I feel very important, an important message, which I know, yes, it's very right wing, although they don't say go and vote for Republicans. It is completely anti-Democrat party. Interesting message nonetheless. And you tell me when you're bored of it, but it really kept me entertained for all of the minutes that it is. Black folks is in an abusive.

2:15:03 Black leadership, relationship. We have to send a message. This is the time for us to send a message. We're always talking about what the Republicans ain't done for us or what they will do to hurt us. My life has been hurt by Democrats. And we got in our mind that we always got to keep voting Democrat. Look and see in your community, who are the real oppressors in our community? They always talk about black on black crime. And when you hear the word black on black crime, the first thing you think of is a black man robbing you, a black man breaking in your house. And that is a black on black crime. But let's take it one step further. There's a black on black crime in down in city hall.

2:15:45 There's a black-on-black crime down in all the state capitals in America, where black folks are voting against our interests. Where black folks are voting and making us, we're getting poorer and poorer, and other groups are getting richer and richer. Everywhere you go, there's poverty in black areas. This is the lot where I stand at right now. I ought to be aware of this. Public housing is where we should live at. Most of the people at home are living in the street. And it's because of you, Mr. President. In Detroit, where your leaders at? There's no white folks running Detroit cutting water on black folks in Detroit. Them black folks running that city. I like this. Yeah, it's a bit like a vice thing. I mean, you know, you find these guys and then you, you just make it sound like it's a normal voice. I think it's kind of rigged.

2:16:34 Of course it's rigged. But you know, but what the real, what the issue they don't bring up, which is the issue they should bring up is, is that the black community as a whole is so all in with the Democrats that they can't throw their weight around. It's like a voting bloc that has no power, even though it would have a huge amount of power if it was a little more independent. And they don't bring that up. All they do is just slam the Democrats using these black voices. But, you know, that would be the blaze. Oh, yeah. Of course. But the blaze, I'm going to... It's not that I care this much. I don't really want to watch a TV network of any sort where there's this

2:17:16 ridiculous kind of slanted prayer meetings that take place constantly. Glenn gets his team around, they all kneel and they all hold hands, and then Glenn gives some prayer of some sort, and this goes on during the show or at the end of a show. And it's just like I find it to be offensive for some reason. I think we should do that. I think we should have a little prayer. I don't think so. It's not going to happen. I think it'd be a good idea. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Having religion thrown in your face is just something that always bothers me. And I think it's that there's biblical citations that say you shouldn't do it. But we do have people to thank. There's your transition there, Segway. Richard Chow in Fullerton, California, won 1930.

2:18:12 And he is now a knight and he'll be knighted later. David Van Sunder, and here's our set, these are all following our final 7777s. I'm sure there'll be some laggers that come in. But this is the official last group of 7777s and you can look along and see if there's anything there that we should be reading. David Van Sunder in Pacific Grove, California. Pista Hadjou. What this is the Dutch? How do you pronounce that? I don't know that Pista Hajdu. Pista Hajdu. It's probably not it's probably something not from it's Anyway from Foerendal. Yeah, but they're from Foerendal. Yeah. Hmm Netherlands Doesn't miss an episode and calls us dudes. Hey dudes. Sir Brian Barrow in Royal Wooten Bassett

2:19:02 Christian Herzog, our buddy in Elwood, Illinois, who may be a knight. Tyler Oglesby in San Antonio, Texas, who was some job karma, we'll put that at the end. Wesley Clark, Stanley, North Carolina, gorgeous area. Sir Victor Gregg in Decatur, Georgia. Doug Dodge in Oxnard, California. Sir Roy Strahan in Gosnells, Western Australia. A Black Knight Roy, Sir Craig in Chicago, Illinois, Sir Richard Gardiner, Gardiner or Gardiner? Gardiner. Yeah. I guess, I don't know. In Chicago, two in Chicago, Wiley Thunesson. No. Willi. Grave. Willi Thunesson in Grave. Willi Thunesson in Grave. Grave. Grave. Yeah, very good. Grave.

2:19:55 Chris Hinton in Cortland, Ohio, Lucas Zua in Munich, Deutschland. Yeah, Zua. And I just touched a button on my thing here and now I've got to, oh yeah, I got it, I got it, I got it. Arthur Gobitz in Zandam, Holland. Robert Franklin in Bristol, UK, John Kumar in London, UK. Dean Aston in Colchester, Essex, UK. Nice. UK, UK, UK. Patrick Deary in Sarnia, Ontario, Canada. Richard Ballard in Ulburg, Vermont. Sir James Mann in Ringgold, Louisiana. And his 73 is KF5YAE. Sir James, so I'm sorry, Glen Riccio in Charlottesville.

2:20:49 And he says it's a great newsletter. And that was 73.33, so that ends our 77.77s. Anthony Farmer, 77.14 in Lost Wages, Nevada. He says he can't afford $770, but can handle 77. He's third of the way to knighthood. L. Duderaci. which is somebody you must know personally. I don't know, from Tilburg. Tilburg in Holland, Netherlands. Jason Gossin in Richmond, BC. David Delostrito in Auburn, New York, 69, 69. Also 69, 69 from Skald Elbrek in Rohnert Park. And Karsten Ove Schwarz-Nielsen in Denmark.

2:21:41 We have a lot of internationals in this period. It's nice. Yeah, I like that a lot. Yeah, it's always a good sign. Susan Potter, Dolson, and...I think I mentioned in the...I just...and I just kind of mentioned in the newsletter that the kinds of propagandistic bullcrap that's being foisted on the general public of the United States is getting pretty universal. Yeah, we've taught everybody well. Yeah, I think so. Susan Potter-Dolson in Arlington, New Jersey. Kevin Dills in Charlotte, North Carolina. David, and he's 55, Double Niggles on the Dime. David John Drew in Victoria, BC, Double Niggles on the Dime. Eric Hochel in Berlin, Germany.

2:22:26 I'm gonna back up to David. Yeah, we have John. Yeah, so I recently went on vacation my girlfriend and neglected to opt out of the naked body scanner. Therefore, I need to call myself out as a douchebag. I don't know why you're a douchebag for that, but okay. Macy, or Macy, Stolowski in Calgary, Alberta. David Durall at $50, these are $50. David Durall in Malta, New York. Gerald Inabonit, Inabonit, Inabonit, in Union, South Carolina. Peter Totes from Parts Unknown. Ross Turpin in Troy, Kansas. And finally, Simon Smith

2:23:10 In Middlesbrough, Cleveland, UK. Keep hitting him in the mouth, he says. Well, very good list and thank you all so much for our our Socks of Sevens for our seventh anniversary. This definitely helped. Definitely helped catch up a little bit on everything. And of course on Sunday we had the big 666, which a lot of people have been looking forward to. Double producerships for that show as well. And we both got a note, which was really nice. I don't want to read the whole thing, but it was from a cop in Australia.

2:23:46 And he sent this really, really nice note, but he... let me see the end here. At work we get updated with a list of all the groups that have been officially declared terrorist organizations so we can be aware of what their emblems, insignias, etc. look like in case we come across supporters. Not surprisingly, ISIL had been added. Slightly more surprising was the group had not been removed, the PKK. That's interesting. Yeah. The PKK. I think the PKK is on our list too. Yeah, but they're in Australia now. We have to be afraid of them in Australia. Be afraid of the PKK. And he is a $5 a month donation. We highly appreciate that. As we do for everybody who comes in under $50, we've got our 33s, we've got our 12s, 11s, all kinds of regular support, which just works out great for us. And remember, if you go to Dvorak.org slash NA, you can find out how you can send checks

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2:25:24 We have one, two, three, four knightings. And let me just go back and take a look. I think there was one note from Richard Chow from Fulton, California. He said there's an accounting. Was there any other notes we had to read? No, I don't believe so. I think we're good. I think we're good to go. So we can draw the blades here. Very happy to have such a nice list of knights coming in. So Isaac Garcia, come on to the podium. Fernando de los Reyes, Mark Alexander. Elos, Ela, Elch, Elcocer, and Richard Chow. All of you now have become Knights of the Noah General Roundtable. So I hereby pronounce thee Sir Fernando de los Royas, Sir Isaac Garcia, Sir Knight of Fiddler's Green, and Sir Richard Chow, Knight of the Noah General Roundtable. For you gentlemen, we've got hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay. We've got bad science and perky breasts, opium and warm orange juice, three gaches, a bucket of fried chicken, Ruben S. Women and Rose.

2:26:20 And Mutton and Mead. Great. And a lot of these knighthoods have been over, you know, saved up over many years by contributing to the show, which is great. And it shows that you can get there. Yeah, no, if you listen long enough and you support the show, you will become a knight. It's really good that way. Have you watched Democracy Now! recently? Did you watch the most recent? There was There was a hearing in the Senate here, and this relates to, I think, Ferguson. Ferguson is where the police were killing kids. Yeah, they're doing a connective kind of thing between Ferguson and the Zimmerman thing. I'm seeing this more and more as like, let's connect these two and then everyone's a racist. Yes. And we have to remove this police force from Ferguson

2:27:11 But what was interesting on Democracy Now, they were talking about that big conference that's always out in Berkeley where they have... what is it called? Where they have all the police stuff. I don't know. I never heard of it. No, no, we talk about it every year. Every year it goes on. It's the... hold on... Berkeley... I'm not going to this thing. No, it has a strange name. What is it called? Not Berkeley. Oakland. Oakland. I'm sorry. They do it at the big Oakland Center. Ah, come on, John. We talk about it every year. Now we haven't done it and I forget what it's called. Okay, well, I've completely forgotten about it. Well, this is where they go and sell all the new gadgets. Which of course under the 1033 rule, you know, these police forces around Gitmo Nation here in the States can buy up all the stuff. And they get secondhand stuff like bayonets. Which of course you need. Yeah, bayonets are great. So they have a guy

2:28:10 on Democracy Now!, and I think he was from, maybe Mother Jones. And he's talking about how he got kicked out of this convention. It's a convention, not a fair convention. It has a real Gitmo nation name too. It's Urban Shield. There we go. Urban Shield. That's what it is. Oh, right. Yes, we do too. Yeah. Because there's a bunch of cool promotional videos that come up with this. Yeah. It got all the cool stuff. So this guy gets kicked out of the Urban Shield and... I don't go to this thing. It doesn't make sense. And he dropped something

2:28:51 in this Democracy Now! interview, which goes on... We missed it. It was in September. I know. We missed it. It comes every September. So he dropped some information which goes... No, wait. Hold on. Oaken will not host Urban Shield next year because, according to the mayor, Chan, that woman, Jean Kwan, I mean... So I'm screwed. Okay, get it. Now I'm depressed. Right. So he drops an upper decker. And... In fact, here it is. It's his articles inside Urban Shield, the convention for warrior cops. So they do this long piece, 40 minutes with Amy and the War and Peace Report.

2:29:31 And then he says something which goes unchallenged, and I wanted to play that. Last month during a Senate hearing on police militarization, Brian Kamoi of the Department of Homeland Security defended the program. He said equipment helped locate the surviving suspect after the Boston Marathon bombing last year. The response to the 2013 Boston Marathon bombing demonstrated how preparedness grant investments have improved capabilities. Grant-funded equipment such as the forward-looking infrared camera on a Massachusetts State Police helicopter enabled the apprehension of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev while enhancing the personal safety of law enforcement officers and protecting public safety. That was Brian Kamoy of the Department of Homeland Security.

2:30:17 But they just gloss over this, they throw that in there. I'm just, you know, oh, but so, you know, this forward-looking infrared. We found the Boston bomber terrorist and protected the safety of the police force. Luckily, Coburn, that must be a senator. Is he Senator Coburn? I believe so. I believe he's a senator. Tom Coburn. He set the record straight, which Interestingly enough, did not get played on Democracy Now! I think Senator Coburn has a few more questions and then we'll get to the second panel. I just want to introduce to the record an article from October 16, 2013, the Boston Globe, which sets the record straight. Sarnev was found because a guy went out to check his boat because he saw the end of it up. Didn't have anything to do with money that we'd spend.

2:31:10 Didn't have anything to do with anything other than he noticed and he was surprised by the fact that he found this guy in fetal position in his boat and called 9-1-1 So this needs to be in the record to set the record straight Yeah, that's how it went down. No Yeah, no, it's all that expensive gear all the taxpayers money wasted on this junk At least someone's awake Well, so you think democracy now would...that would be...I mean, you just grabbed it. You think that they...especially with their narrative, which is an anti-government narrative or seems so, their anti-government narrative, you think that they would have this in there, but no.

2:31:52 Now, it doesn't surprise me. I'm getting more of this sort of thing from Democracy Now! The clip is the racist explanation for everything. They brought this girl on and she wrote a book and it's one of these non-starter books. She brought two people on and she makes the claim that everything going on is racism, especially against Muslims because now she's making the equation, I think we're going to see more of this by the way, she's making the equation that Muslims constitute a race. I wanted to ask you this. Racism, does that only apply to your race as in color of your skin? It used to be... This is an interesting aspect of this and it's something that bothers me.

2:32:40 Racism, technically, when...there was a period in the 20s and 30s, and I actually have some of these books, including one I think was done in the 20s called Races of Man. And they had page after page of races, and they would have an Irishman, a Scot, they'd have a British guy, they'd have a... They'd have a Portuguese and they'd have all these things, and these were all considered races. They're just all nationalities. Yes. But curiously, they all had a distinctive look. In other words, when you saw the Scotsman, you go, yeah, it looks like a Scots guy. And you see the Irish, you look at it, yeah, it looks like an Irish.

2:33:21 Anyway... It's just a misnomer. It should be bigotry instead of racism. You can say it's bigotry. Yeah, but racism is the word that's better. So here's what happened. After this period, there was a lot of discussion in the intellectual community about this isn't race. This isn't racism. Racism is whites hating blacks. Yes. Racism is blacks hating whites, Chinese hating blacks. Yes. It was Chinese, whites, and blacks. Right. And browns. Brown people. a student at the University of California during this era, it was shut down. Racism was whites and blacks, pretty much it. In fact, all racism seemed to boil down from whites hating blacks. And that was the end of it. And then this started to creep in. We're a Mexican. You don't like the Mexicans? You're a racist.

2:34:08 Well maybe you don't like to, you might be ethnocentric. There's a lot of other words you can use but no racism came in and so now Muslims as a religion are a race at least if you listen to this woman. that, you know, that kind of lone wolf who's suffering and battling with mental health issues is really racialized, because Michael's adoptive father was from Libya. So, you know, some of the stories that are more explicitly racist tend to emphasize his dad's connection to Libya, the fact that he was, you know, apparently radicalized into Islam, all of those other

2:34:44 kinds of narratives that try to link him to so-called, you know, radical political Islam and that Islamophobic response. But even the stories that emphasize his struggles with mental health and addictions, in those stories, because his biological mother is white, they tend to frame him as the lone white man, the white wolf, who's suffering with mental health. So even that story, I would argue, Even though it presents him in a more holistic way, in a more, you know, sort of sympathetic light, battling with his different mental health and addictions, even that tends to emphasize a kind of racist discourse as, you know, the lone white man who was lured into radical Islam due to his mental health struggles. So, I think regardless of the kinds of stories that have come out about Michael, underpinning it is a racialized narrative of

2:35:33 how the war on terror has played out, which is a really racist one, one that immediately targets Muslims. Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm just looking at the definition. If you look at the definition of race, which may of course changes over time, people of all races, each of the major divisions of humankind having distinct physical characteristics, then we have Second definition, a group of people sharing the same culture, history, language, etc., an ethnic group. Yes, this has been... The problem I have is that since when I was taught at the liberal college, university, is that this idea was thrown out.

2:36:15 Because it was inaccurate. It was not what race is. That was an idea that really, this is what the newest, the way it's looked at now is the way it was looked at in the 1919-1929 era. That's what we've gone back to. It's interesting. Because it's easier to promote racism, being a racist, if you just because you don't like the Portuguese cleaning lady. I'll give you an example. I've been receiving a lot of flack because we play clips of Nigel Farage. We love what he does in EU Parliament. We don't, we rarely play anything else except for when he stands up there and says, you're all a bunch of douchebags, which includes him because he's in it.

2:36:52 Yes. And I get this, he's a racist, he's a racist, he's a racist, you keep races, they're all racist. I'm like, let's understand what we're saying. And this is coming from Polish sources saying, you know, he wants to kick the Poles out of the UK. You can call him a nationalist. But I don't think racist is the right word, but now he's connected to this, you know, his whole coalition fell apart in European Parliament. Now he's connected with a, the Polish racist. It gets better. Nigel Farage's Eurosceptic group in the European Parliament reformed on Tuesday after the arrival of Polish MEP Robert Jaroslaw Iwaszkiewicz.

2:37:34 Iwaszkiewicz is a member of the Polish Congress of the New Right, whose leader was fined by the parliament for making racist and sexist comments. The revival of the Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy group means that it will get EU funding and extra speaking time. So there you go. So he is teamed up with racists. I'm not quite sure what the Polish guy did that was so racist. If you want to couch everything as racism, which this woman did on Democracy Now! If you don't like Muslims, you're a racist. No, you're not. That's not racist. Correct? Well, I find it distressing. Oh, I'm with you. And it's used as a leverage to decow people.

2:38:17 Oh, you're just a racist. In other words, you can have the greatest argument in the world about something and then it's just dismissed with, oh, well, you're just racist. There's no counter-argument. It's just that you're racist. There's no reason to discuss it because you're a racist. Yeah. Yeah, no, I've always wondered how that cropped in there when, you know, there are different words. Well, all right. It's fine. It's fine. You know, we can work with it. Yeah, don't look at history. Don't look at any other country. Don't look at anything that's going on. It'd be fine. It's all gonna be gross. Spend all your time watching Good Morning America. It's going to be great. Hagel, the Secretary of Defense, Hagel. I just love it when these guys do this guy's such a boob. He's at the Atlantic Conference, which is

2:39:08 What is that? Is that a right wing type? No, I think it's an internationalist thing, if I'm not mistaken. Oh, OK. Well, an Atlanticist thing, obviously. And he just right first 30 seconds. Could you give us a brief big picture of how dangerous you think this time of history is? Is this is a chronic annoyance or is it actual danger? And when will the United States see some end? And I'd like to point out that statistically we are living in the safest time ever. You are more safe than any other time in history, statistically. Yeah, which is all that really matters. Yeah, but we're being conditioned into thinking it's the worst. We're always being scared. Just the worst. These wars, especially the now 13-year war in Iraq, Afghanistan. Jim, I think we are living through one of these historic defining times. I think we are seeing a new world order post-World War II. Don't need to say anymore. I gotcha.

2:40:09 Say no more. Wink wink, nudge nudge, New World Order. Gotcha. Doesn't he get the memos? I don't know. That guy, I think he doesn't care. He just coasts into retirement. Don't feed... So, okay. So just as the word police, we have the racism, the troll thing is also out of control. Everything's a troll. But it's working. Twitter is falling apart. Working very well. Wall Street is not liking them. This is good. This is exactly where you'd want it to be. And let me see, what did I have here? Oh yes, I wanted to mention the FCC's latest note as we get closer to the net neutrality ruination of the free and open internet as we know it today.

2:41:09 Yeah, I got a problem with my, we've known this for years and my Comcast connection, I think I've got it nailed down though, it's my Comcast connection which I don't use for this show, it's because I've got sitting over here, I can see from the window a giant merchandise mart-sized building called the, it's the Western Regional Research Center for the USDA. It's monstrous, there must be a thousand, two thousand people working there. I'm sure they're hooked to Comcast, because my daytime connectivity sucks. It just goes down to one megabit, sometimes 500k. So I did, and I've been bitching about this on Twitter because it gets a lot of attention of Comcast, who've been trying to fix this problem of mine. But then I realized it's a very time-stamped problem, and so I did it with 12 midnight, 65 megabits per second.

2:42:02 12 noon, 500k. And this is day after day. So they say, well, maybe your equipment's bad. I get these kinds of notes. What? Can you...can people not see what the problem is? It's not my equipment. Well, why don't you hook it directly to the computer instead of through the router? Maybe that'll change it. Well, I...and this is...I'm gonna wind up the show where I started with...I have a big hard-on about the Bogative Technology Press. And when I hear Tech shows just pontificating about how great yes, we can I love my HBO on the go I want my CBS all I can eat streaming. Okay

2:42:45 This is ruining the entire beauty of the internet. It is ruining it. And Hollywood is very smart, much smarter than you, and they are going to take over and literally ruin everything, mainly because of regulation, what will be allowed and not allowed, but by the nature of their licensing, everything has to be streamed, there's no efficiencies, very little efficiencies. And now Tom Wheeler, the chairman of the FCC, has come out with a letter which he said is titled Tech Transitions, Video and the Future. And this is, of course, no coverage whatsoever. I would like to discuss this with you, John, so we can get this out and have someone talking about it.

2:43:33 Have you seen this letter that he wrote? No. Consumers have long complained about how their cable service forces them to buy channels they never watch. Yes, this is the system that actually makes cable affordable at all by bundling up all of these different channels so that you could see things, although you're paying for things that you may never watch. You pay for ESPN, I pay for ESPN, I never watch it. But it's part of the basic cable package. The move of video onto the internet can do something about that frustration. But first, internet video services need access to the programs. Today, the FCC takes the first step to open access to cable programs as well as local television. The result should be to give consumers more alternatives from which to choose so they can buy the programs they want. Well, before you go on, I'll ask a question which I'm sure you can answer.

2:44:27 Since the FCC has absolutely no power over cable, how can this be? Well, there is historic jurisprudence for this. In 1992, Congress realized that the then nascent satellite industry would have a hard time competing because much cable programming was owned by the cable companies who frequently kept it from competitors. Congress manned it. Congress. mandated access to cable channels for satellite services and competition flourished. Today, Tom Wheeler says, I am proposing to extend the same concept to the providers of linear, which is very important, that's streaming, linear internet-based services to encourage new video alternatives by opening up access to content previously locked on cable channels. This is a very bad idea.

2:45:24 This is the internet has not been designed for this and Hollywood has this guy is I'm Super shill, but now you will see the lobby for Congress to enact a similar similar legislation that was enacted for satellite dish services Hello, darling Yeah, I'd love some. Yeah, thank you. Keeping the internet free, Bill. Yeah. Is that what it's called? No, that's what it's going to be called. Keep the internet free. It's believable to you, apparently. Yeah, sounded right on.

2:46:04 But this is going to...when you have everybody unbundling, and I have a hard time believing it will really happen this way, but okay, people will start to unbundle, your collective quality of service is going to degrade. This will not work very well. And the takeover of the internet, IPTV, never took off. Now the takeover is coming through legislation, which the FCC is going to propose that Congress put into law. And I think that this should be fought against. This is very, very, very bad. Now there is... Go ahead, I'm sorry. I'm just saying, this is not going to get fought against.

2:46:50 Well, there is something. No, this is a foregone conclusion. Your premise for this entire little spiel is being ignored by you. The premise is Hollywood is smarter than everybody. Yes. And they're going to totally do what they want to do, which is to scam the public out of money with mediocre content. Yes, and shame on everybody. Shame on you for being all in. Oh yes, I love my TV shows. I want them streaming so I can get them on my tablet. You're going to wake up one day and your children will be locked in to this Hollywood piece of crap network, will not be able to do anything, and it will be your fault, collectively.

2:47:37 There is some solace, and this is what I'm working on. I think distributed hash table is the future. I implore anyone who is of a technical nature to look at CJDNS. We can build a—not a fast one, but we can build a network on top of everything that will work without being hampered, and there will be no money. You can't make any money off of it. And that is what I am going to be working on until I die. Well, good, because I got to clip the backy up. Okay, good. I got a bunch of clips back here, but I just want to use this one. Good, good. So I'm watching the Today Show, and of course, they need to do something about Halloween because Halloween's coming up tomorrow. So you get a little... So they have Elizabeth Vargas and one of the other women that come on the show, and they go into a haunted prison. And the reason I clipped this is because this is a disgusting example of feeding the public

2:48:25 strange nonsense that should not, the public should not receive. And listen to, play this clip, this is the clip which is today's show on Halloween, part one. Listen to the little mumblings that take place that the two women And I believe they're sincere, because Elizabeth, there's an Elizabeth woman that's on the, I think it's Vargas, maybe it's not her last name. But the one news reader that's on the Today Show is very sincere, pretty girl who is, I think probably not the brightest light bulb. But just listen to this, and this is disgusting in some funny way. ...over the years, including famous felons like Al Capone. The prison was relatively kind to him.

2:49:09 and gave him some special treatment while he was inside. But with every cell designed for solitary confinement, prisoners spent most days in complete isolation. They thought this would bring out the best in people. Today we know that it was more likely to drive them insane. Eastern State is believed to be one of the most haunted places in the world. Gave you the gloves so I could show you our death ledger. This is a handwritten list of every person who died in this building. There's more than a thousand names in this book. Gosh. That's what they were in the prison for. Wow, man's stuff. And then there's the cause of death over here. Murder. E5721 here who was stabbed by another inmate. His cause of death. Ooh, look at his eyes. I know. What is going on in this clip? What is happening?

2:49:55 They're going through a ledger, which is just a bunch of writings, and they look down the list, it's got a guy's name, and then it says murder, and one goes, oh my god, he was in here for murder. What do you think he was in there for? And so they're going, so there's two women now are scared to death because there's... Oh yeah, of course, it's spooky! It's spooky and they're women. And by the way, the meme about solitary confinement is interesting because this has become a extreme form. They're pushing this getting out of the solitary confinement kind of style of prisons in a big way. And I think it's just to get more prisoners to so they can get them out of there so they can put them to work in like factory environments to get more work out of it. Well, that's a stretch.

2:50:45 I don't know. Well, that's a stretch. You don't think that they want to get more workers? No. No, we want more people on welfare to buy Chinese crap. What are you talking about? There's that too. How much more do I have to play with this? You got to play the screaming part. Aaron Sagers, a paranormal researcher, has spent many hours within the walls of the prison. This is death row. This is where they kept the baddest of the bad here at Eastern State. If you guys are ready to get ghosty, I brought a bunch of little goodies here, some gadgets. So you've heard some creepy things among these walls? I've heard some things that I can't explain, but it certainly sounds like words to me. Let me go ahead and play this one.

2:51:31 I killed her. What? They play this, there's nothing and somebody says I killed her. Did you hear anything in that clip? Yeah, I heard my brain frying from... Let it finish then. Spiritualist devices, dowsing rods, hold them close to the top. Why don't you ask a question? Spirits, please cross the rods and make yourself known. If you want us to leave death row, cross our rods. Tell us... Oh, there you go. I'm a little freaked out right now. Woohoo! Jenna is out when it comes to the rods. Oh my god! I'm scared! Okay, you can stop it now. Yeah, I have to. Now, you don't have to. This is the Today Show. Mm-hmm. It's just beyond me why they would show us- this is like should be on cable. Well, is there- On Ghost Hunters? Is there a payoff?

2:52:34 No, there's no... Yeah, they do a post-visit interview and the woman who's freaked out, the newsreader woman, it's a normal... whatever her name is on the Today Show, she takes the rest of the week off. But it's the new pumpkin latte at Starbucks. That's what I really want to know. That's a different part of the show. Okay. Alright. Alright, nevermind. Well, you know, just went nowhere. I do have a short clip for you. This is the classic from Castle. This is the TV show Conundrum clip. Play it. Okay. What happened? System crashing. We're locked out. Get it back up. We've got 15 minutes before these guys are dead. It takes 20 minutes to reboot.

2:53:24 Sorry, I just thought that was funny. That's the stupidest thing I ever heard. Alright, John. Alright, that's okay. I got stuff left. Yeah, oh yeah. Yeah, more mainstream TV shows, please. I got one- I got to play them one more. No, no, no, no. I'm cutting you off. No, I'm cutting you off. It's done. We're done. This is a- Okay. No, this- I'll just keep these on there. The final music is going. I gotta- I gotta- You gotta, you know, watch C-SPAN again. Ugh. It's too much. I don't know what you're getting on C-SPAN, but all I get on C-SPAN over the last couple of weeks is the debate between the Senate, the local politician in South Cambridge debating his partner about who should, you know, who's best serving the community. And there's somebody in Charleston, South Carolina, running for mayor. There's a lot of that. It's horrible. Yeah, there's a lot of that. I agree.

2:54:25 But I dig deep my friend. I dig deep. Yeah, you can dig all you want All right, buddy, still nice. So there will be all good John's clips will carry over until Sunday I have three that are just gonna blow your mind am I all right when we look forward to it? Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of the drone star state. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. Northern Silicon Valley where apparently nobody appreciates the Halloween clips and tomorrow is Halloween I might add. I'm John C. Dvorak. Yes, happy Halloween. Another bogus holiday. And we'll talk to you on Sunday right here on No Agenda. Drone if you want to. Drone around if you want to. Without

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