Clog the Pipes

00:00 What's the worst that could happen for making these choices? Adam Curry, John C. DeVorah. It's Sunday October 12th 2014 and time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 660! This is no agenda Bleeding from the upper lip, but it's not Ebola here in FEMA region 6 in the indispensable nation. The capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I shave after this show. I'm Johnson Correct? Really? I didn't know there was protocol but you're probably right is probably probably much smarter to do yeah You don't want to bleed during the show yes It's hard to talk and uh

00:43 and dabble the wound. I use a straight edge Not even a safety? You use a straight razor? The big screw with the strops? The leather, uh-huh yeah somehow i don't believe that So what's this about you cut yourself shaving Well... You said offhandedly casually your growing a beard This was a request By who? by Ms. Mickey That's curious Yeah, I thought so too actually. There's a big trend right now that I've noticed and it's cropping up amongst the... Douchebags? Amongst the hipsters. The ex-Jenners. Yeah the hipsters. Hipsters that grow beard hair at least or beard if you can't. Beard is actually more in than that close crop thing and even Jolie Odell has a beard

01:39 She had her husband Because she let you made a big stink about it I actually heard she did on the twitch show that she only likes men with facial hair and he Aaron accidentally or I didn't ask anybody cut it off get his beard off cuz yeah, I don't think He likes having a beard and she was irked at him. Oh Well, Mickey... well my beard of course is grayish because I'm gray. Although i'm in transition on the hair. You can color it get some of the beard. No no no! The whole point- The whole point is she thinks it's really masculine and manly and she really likes it and then- Ernest Hemingway Exactly that's right! The old man in the sea. The old man in the podcast

02:29 The old man in the podcast. Ernest Hemingway, no she really likes it and I said... And I was confused! Really? So i got one of those trimmers and.. I don't know if like that much It's... Well what difference does it make what you think just do what the woman says Please go to my Twitter timeline You need to see this Okay See the retweet that I did from Mickey And you will see exactly how the relationship is I think it's the most recent thing i retweeted. Now live more than air traffic what was that actual question? You gotta look at the retweets otherwise you won't see it. I don't know how you look at their retweets. Click up my profile and says tweets and retweets. It says tweets and replies. I think you need to go to other one, I dunno. Go to Mickey's twitter then! Its simple

03:26 Yeah, I'll read it to you. How do you do this? I don't know how to work it Well apparently there's a picture of some girl showing her butt No that's something else altogether well Unless thats you! Okay here It is Sunday morning wisdom and she has a sign A picture of a sign I'll read the sign to you If at first You Don't Succeed Try Doing It The Way Your Wife Told You Uh-huh. Mm-hmm Oh, I see the sign yeah now fortunately okay? I see that but I don't see anything else But that's it that's the sign well this sign i'm looking at the sign but where's the picture of your face No has nothing to do with my face. I'm just saying that's what you dude This is how women are today oh Yeah, and this was the reason why I'm a little bit behind a little bit late we had a dinner guest last night. Oh producer mark

04:18 And Mark is not only producer of this program, but he is also a producer of documentary which I believe we have discussed on the show. And the documentary is titled The Global Catch which is about the tuna trade. Okay and wow so... So we're planning it this is that was working on a trip to Panama. Right! I keep forgetting about The Trip to Panama. Somebody needs to do a jingle for that! The Trip, the Trip to Panama Powered by Science. Yeah there you go it's our showbiz. The Trip To Panama Powered By Science Now the trip... this podcast is powered by science. The Trip to Panama which looks like it's going to be February. But we had two main topics of conversation which was really what

05:24 in some ways threw me off track, but also gave me a lot of material to look into and talk about today. One... You think you're gonna be less likely to be arrested with the beard in Panama? Is that the deal? Yeah exactly one is the Fortuna Gulen saga this is The holy man, as they say. The holy man who has been wholly hold up and has his compound in Pennsylvania where the CIA set him up and you'll recall it was the Sarnoff brothers

06:03 Sister-in-law, I think who was married to one of the guys from the CIA who? Got Gulen into Pennsylvania and he's been there for a couple decades And and he is he's been undermining Erdogan in Turkey for four as much or just as many years When he has all the charter schools you recall we've talked about this. No no we know we've talked about it a lot Yeah yeah, we aren't yeah going well and As you know mark is very interested in being perhaps doing Another documentary which could possibly be about this guy. Mm-hmm And so, you know we've shared a lot of different he's been very inspiring to me to look into what this guy is doing and and he tells me about a Documentary that's coming out titled Love is a verb then this documentary is about Fatou Lagoulin

06:57 And when you start to look into... Now this guy who no one has, CBS NBC CNN New York Times. No one gets the interview of this guy. No one! But of course this Terry Spencer Hesser woman who did an Indiegogo crowdfunded raise I don't know $120,000 I, of course got a full-on interview and not only after she was taken to Turkey. This is the way this guy operates hey coming in we'll tell you about the interfaith movement and we'll take you on a free trip to turkey and we fly around then all of a sudden there's a documentary let me play a little bit of the trailer

07:39 for the movie, which is also exactly what's almost the full pitch they used for Indiegogo. This is the story of a man, a Turkish Muslim, a scholar, a preacher and the global movement of social activists he inspires In 2013, by the way I apologize. I didn't realize they had done really two separate tracks This is kind of lame Time magazine named him one of the most influential leaders in the world Because it was influence at-risk children are now being educated Sick or being treated and starving

08:25 Are you able to hear that? Are you getting both channels? No, all I'm getting is da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da music. Okay let me do that over. You need to be able to hear it Sorry about that. That's kind of sound like a long intro to nothing, no? There was one channel this voice and see if this changed it. This is the story of a man, a Turkish Muslim scholar, a preacher and the global movement of social activists he inspires In 2013 Time magazine named him one of the most influential leaders in the world I don't even recall that that he was Zib. I don't either but they have these lists Oh, yes, you sit around and make up what wasn't Hitler a man-of-the-year as well twice? I think maybe Because it is influence at risk children are now being educated in hundreds of countries The sick are being treated

09:23 and the starving, fang. Often at great personal risk It's also because of his influence and the collective power of the movement that Fethullah Gulen is feared and even reviled in his native Turkey And as a Muslim leader of a powerful global movement, he is scrutinized in the United States where he lives in self-imposed exile. Self imposed exile? No! He was brought here by the State Department and CIA and he's been in this compound under their... Protection. Protection, guidance etc and he is responsible for almost an overthrow of the entire Erdogan government because of all the gulenists that were inside the government with this huge scandal has been going on for the past three years to explore this controversial holy man controversial holy man in a movement of Turkish Muslims he inspires we're going to examine Turkish history

10:26 and Sufi mysticism. Now this is interesting, I do not believe it's true that now they're claiming he's a Sufi which i'm pretty sure... you know in this documentary they compare him to Rumi of all things Just to make it... The Sufis are interesting. People don't realize until they start researching it, I didn't believe when I first heard it but Ben Laden and many people in Al-Qaeda were all Sufi's Well that says enough then doesn't it? Yeah pretty much And go to just a few of the places where these idealists are working to serve humanity In order to please God In order to please God! Hey listen to this

11:09 Okay, so that's part of- That's the trailer and then here she has a little pitch. This is Terry Spencer Hesser who likes to let everyone know that she's an award winning something. Hi I'm Terry Spencer Hesser And this is Love Is A Verb. I was introduced to the Gulan movement in 2010 with a free trip to Turkey. I was an award winning writer and television producer. Oh! I like doing that Hey, I'm the award-winning Adam Curry. Certainly you've heard of me how you doing nice to meet you certainly And please be my friend the bestselling author John C Dvorak Do you have an award somewhere don't you we have plenty of awards actually? Don't talk guy don't sit around bragging about it. I love hey um and I was in a world I guess she's no longer an award winning screenwriter

12:00 It's found that to be a little strange if you don't say that about yourself the verb I was introduced to the Gulan movement in 2010. I was an award-winning writer and television producer And they were one of the largest social movements in the world and really nobody knew either of us To document the works of the movement and profile their lease herbal what this is the woman? I've got pictures over on the screen She looks insufferable here We traveled throughout the United States to Turkey where the movement was born as well as Bosnia, Belgium Iraq and Somalia. All related and not unimportant to see the connections? we got to know that Turkish humanitarians who were influenced by the philosophy of Fethullah Gulen Which in the Netherlands in Germany these schools have been closed by governments because they were madrasahs Yeah

12:58 And if you look at his charter school movement in the United States, which a lot of it's in Texas but also Pennsylvania. At least a hundred million dollars from the government, our government going into this and of course being shuttled through to his movement around the world you know to unseat or at least put the Erdogan government on alert. A man named by Time Magazine as one of the world's most influential leaders Before I began this project I didn't really know any Muslims nor did i make an effort too

13:37 But I believe that in a post-911 world, you should know these Muslims. And I think that if there's any hope for peace in the world, Fethullah Gulen's example should be followed." This was a very expensive production and one we're finally at the finishing stages of I hope that you'll see that love is a verb and help us to introduce the Gulan movement to the world. And they wanted $66,000 and got more than 100 grand. Well good for them... Good sales! Well no, I'm thinking something different. Oh yeah? I know what your thinking. This is the perfect way to do it. Of course this is the perfect way but to do all kinds of financing for backdoor financing for propaganda

14:23 It's beautiful. You'll see a lot of these films about presidential candidates and it all be, oh it's a Kickstarter... Well I think they chose Indiegogo probably because Kickstarter might be too sophisticated to scam them like this Come on hundred and two thousand dollars in a couple months before a movie No one's ever heard about and where is that money coming from? That's I think that's pretty obvious So one of the things she won was the Christopher Columbus Award for playwriting And Christopher Columbus Awards are some middle school thing I'm telling you. I'm looking at it now

15:00 Preparing for the Christopher Columbus Awards can fit easily into your plans. Preparing a competition project is great learning experience for students in science or social study classes, or for cross-curricular use in team teaching, or block scheduled classes as an after school or community organization program." So here's how some of the discussion started last night as I was reading the director's message And it's interesting because we have seen this anti-Muslim Islam message from our president even saying, hey you know we've got people stand up in the Muslim community and say those ISIL guys they're not us. So maybe this is then the controlled counter message and here's what I took issue with and we had a conversation about it

15:49 In the decade after 9-11, says the director — the winner of the Columbus Award in high school. I was vaguely aware that it was not a good time to be a Muslim in America nor was it a good time to be an American in the Middle East but for me like for most Americans this awareness morphed into specific and non-specific fears about Islam and the extreme interpretations of it now I disagree with this I believe the narrative that Americans had after 9-11 was Bin Laden, Al Qaeda, Taliban Iraq, Saddam Hussein. I think if anything it was steered away from the Islam fear or am I incorrect? Mickey said I was wrong

16:37 That's a good question. I'm not going to say you're right or wrong at this point, thanks. Well that's not helpful. Well i don't have an answer to that because I remember the obviously remember it but I don't know. I would actually maybe side with you, and I'll tell you why is because they did...they kind of went out of their way bent over backwards as it were to accommodate the Muslims to the point where they're listed in everything CARE and these other organizations had to say. And guys like Daniel Pipes who was one of the more strongest critics of modern Islamism

17:13 Was pretty much shut up by he was shouted down in many instances and yeah You probably I would say at some level you're right, and she's seeing it from a different perspective And some level she's right now. She goes on she says then in 2010 I met a group of people from the Niagara Foundation You might want to look that one who invited me on an interfaith trip to Turkey now The Niagara Foundation trip to Turkey yes, and the Niagara foundation is run by This guy, his name is...he's also on the credits of course. Hakan Berberoglu and that's a Gulen-funded foundation so.. Yes it is in fact if you look up Niagara Foundation on the Googles the first thing that crops up besides them under the subheads when they have those little sub heads they have Fethullah Gulen right at the top Yeah So its his operation Yeah so she did a documentary with his money about him

18:11 Yeah, exactly as she goes on to say I am NOT. Where's our gig like this? She goes on the same brothers You know We need to go inside behind the Koch brothers empire and find out if they are good or bad. What great guys they are! I am not religious, he says but i'm curious and jumped at any chance to see Turkey And have a adventure with a culture that was foreign to me. I looked at the trip- Is this what that woman said? The director... I looked at the trip as an opportunity to discover new stories to film. You got a free trip give me a break. I never dreamed it would change my world view

18:53 After the trip I decided that others worldview had to be changed as well. Oh, why you will obey? after a lot of reading several more trips oh And a lot of scouting and interviewing we began our journey has a lot of rugs She's done now. I believe she has certainly been nominated for an Emmy maybe even She might have even won one. She says she's won three But we don't know what kind of Emmys, because all Emmys are the same. If you have a local news story that's really good you'll get a local Emmy but you can still say your Emmy winning. The New York Report has an Emmy for doing that character on MSNBC when they when MSNBC had the site. You got an Emmy for that? He did a virtual character never showed up at all and because yeah well it was it was a very unique idea

19:51 Kind of a cartoon character that was on the set and they gave him an Emmy for that. All right, now you just told me that Leo has one. The Emmys have kind of gone down in stature. Also the local Emmys or there's other kind of ancillary Emmys are a different size they're not the big clunkers In fact if somebody is won an Emmy you have to ask them did you get the big clunker? Or did you get just one these little ones and then I guess got a little one but it's still an Emmy. Emmy nomination McKinnick Island the Mecca of the Midwest That sounds like a local Emmy

20:42 Award on all fronts the life and times of Robert Rutherford McCormick 2005 that's an award Emmy nomination worried sick 2003 here is but what more interesting I think it's her corporate work wrote and produced multiple award-winning, again individual programs in series for the Chicago Community Trust. Searle, Ameritech Waste Management Roosevelt University Walgreens Commonwealth Edison McDonald's Hewitt & Associates So she is one of those Nike Gatorade R Kelly & Jay Z Radiological Physicians Northwestern Hospital Chest Physicians Mars Candy Yeah this is the

21:26 industrial type. So she did an industrial paid for by Gulen, that's the way I see it? Yeah! That's exactly what it is and since she has done so many industrials... She could sell it to Ghoulen as, look I... Wal-Mart. Look at my Walmart work! Hey how's Walmart doing? Huh?! You wanna be big like Walmart Big!? You want to be a brand? This woman doesn't want somebody who is going in there and actually do a documentary. They want the puff piece and she's like custom made for it Here are quick excerpts from the doc Although millions of people have responded to Fetula Ghoulen's message of hope And call to service

22:07 Turkey's secular establishment was not among them. There was an image of Fethullah Gulen described by the state apparatus as a villain, as someone who is going to bring Sharia to this country Yeah that's kind of the whole idea as far as I see it Someone trying to set up a Muslim Republic He does not choose to be on TV. He does not choose to move around the country, uh...to give public meetings he does not even choose to meet with significant numbers of his followers. He lives a rather monkish kind of life With 100 guys up on the hill in this compound in Pennsylvania? Monkish! I think he is spiritually bonded to God himself

23:08 How old is this? Uh, what this documentary? No no. This character. Gulan he's in his 60s maybe 70s I think let's find out book of knowledge so this became a very interesting conversation because we really hadn't updated each other in uh in several months and you know he's-I think he's been up to the compound trying to get some footage And you know, we've had the FBI raiding some of these schools in Pennsylvania and Ohio trying to... because the way I see it me personally Adam, you know, he-he comedian over here. 73 A lot of this money is

23:50 maybe not just going to charter schools and the way some of the charter schools are run is you have to question as did the several EU countries, what exactly is being taught in these countries? Is it in these schools? Is it in line with...is it common core I guess this my question. And now he's making a move we've got this documentary coming out he's being compared to Rumi which was-I mean I have a book by Rumi beautiful poems I just don't think that's a fair comparison if he can even call himself a Sufi at all. And it's interesting that you say that apparently was what Osama bin Laden was, and I think that kind of says enough right there So then we move from this into...and i think i fucked it up We start talking about men and women and Muslims Mark actually dove right in and that was pretty interesting because when Mickey gets into an argument

24:51 This is how we met, you know. It's frightening." What? Arguing? She very aggressive when she wants to make a point and I always get caught off guard because...I'm just never ready for it because she's good! During the show I know if you're gonna argue with me I'm ready for but then you see oh well crap I don't have my show notes and I don't have the book of knowledge I can't do anything And we got into a conversation about... I think it and is this why you're punished by having to wear a beard now? This is correct. Yes, that's a big part of it! And we got into a conversation which I believe is au courant right now and I'm seeing the messaging In fact, I will play a Sarah Silverman clip

25:41 which is brand new. You know, Sarah Silverman always does things which are hilarious but they always have a political message. Oh hi I'm Sarah Silverman writer comedian and vagina owner Women make up almost half the working population. Yet we typically earn just 78 cents to every dollar a man makes in almost every profession like doctors, lawyers teachers minors and even the oldest profession of them all tailors You see like a streetwalker who's tailoring pants haha

26:19 Every year the average woman loses around $11,000 to the wage gap. Over the course of the working years of her life that's almost 500 grand! That's a five hundred thousand dollar vagina tax! That's why I'm taking matters into my own hands... well somebody else's hands really Dr. Goldstein or is it gold scene? O'Malley I'm becoming a dude. Okay, so this is about the and this is where what we were talking about We're all kind of saying the same thing debunked his bullcrap about the 70% 70 it's actually now 78 cents But yeah, I want to revisit that briefly but we got into a conversation I think Mark and I said you know that we were disappointed in the feminist movement as I've said many times on on this show

27:09 very disappointed in the feminist movement as to how little is being, for the amount of time and effort and screen time that is spent on band bossy. And this wage gap which we need to talk about if you really want to advance women... You know? This was Mark's point and I agree with him You have to look at what's happening worldwide where Iran and Egypt, 30 years ago women weren't wearing burkas. They weren't covered up it was a modern progressive country now I'm not gonna... Actually in the 70s Afghanistan was the same way Same way! And i'm not going to say that we didn't have a hand in it with with the douchebags we put in place and you know the geopolitical game but it's the mullahs and other religious nut frackers

27:55 who came in and really digressed and degraded women's rights in these countries. And I'm always surprised how little noise there is from the feminist movement, yet when you get this story which of course there is actual discrimination...I'll give you example Here's what happened just the other day. This of course, this is a CBS piece on the new CEO of Microsoft Satya Nadella. At a conference dedicated to women in the technology field, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella had some stunning advice about women asking for a raise. It's not really about asking for the raise... What are you ringing for?

28:44 Because it's hilarious. But knowing and having faith that the system will actually give you the right raises as you go along Women should keep quiet. Nadella then added that a so-called supernatural force will take care of the race I think that's a little bit of twisting of his words, but okay One of the additional superpowers That quite frankly women who don't ask for a raise have because that's good karma It'll come back In the long term efficiency, things catch up. Even the moderator Maria Clave a Microsoft board member couldn't believe what she heard This is one of very few things I disagree with you on

29:26 The Twitter universe also lit up with tweets like, so what Nadella said was women who want a raise take a hike. New Yorkers also chimed in And wait for a friend of ours Nadella quickly went into damage control mode and backpedaled, claiming on Twitter his remarks were inarticulate and that the tech industry must close gender pay gap. Later he issued this statement to Microsoft employees I believe men and women should get equal pay for equal work And if you think you deserve a raise You should just ask! I think it was a surprisingly unvarnished moment Who's that? Who is that?! What? Who is THAT speaking??

30:10 You have to imagine that if someone within Microsoft was already concerned about treatment of women there, they might be feeling a little more concerned now. Now Microsoft released an internal diversity report earlier this week that showed that 29% of the company's global workforce are women which represents a 5% year-over-year increase but guys I can tell you the critics are still not pleased after this. That was Molly Wood actually. Oh wasn't it? That's funny. Naomi Klein, Molly Wood What we got to talk about Naomi Klein? Well, Naomi Klein is actually came up in the conversation because Naomi Klein it's as if she listened to the last five episodes of No Agenda and she's on her Facebook saying hey these beheading videos look bogus. How come everyone how come the mainstream media is not actually looking into the authenticity? She's saying hey what's up this with Ebola

31:01 Is it possible that we're just sending people over, all these combat troops to capture oil in West Africa? What is she doing listening to our show and then stealing our material. But what happens is unanimously particularly I see a lot of women going she just checked into the train the crazy train! She found a nut job stupid crazy woman and this is where we had this kind of heated debate about You know, how the feminist movement is very quick to cut down women. Oh yeah, well there's a known fact. And I'm going to assert and you know I can actually prove my point that this pay gap which if you really and we have debunked this if you really look at the numbers and the reasons behind it there is a pay gap and I would say it's probably closer to 9% and this you know it's really how you present these numbers

32:00 But of course it's the AAUW who are creating these and they have $113 million. And I'll tell you why this organization isn't, you know...the American Association for Uniting Women, they come up with these studies and they say well if you take all women up to the age of 60 in all men and then you do and you take the pay added up and divided by the number of people, yeah, then there's a huge gap but there's a number of reasons for it. And I will readily Admit that there most definitely there's discrimination. Of course, there is and there should be no discrimination at all but it's not 70 you know It's not the years making 77 or 78 cents of a dollar That is a meme that I believe as part of the strategy to and you'll see soon that its Republicans that are of course responsible for this. It's a strategy To get women to never vote for Republican And I think I can prove that but here's where we have

32:55 we had an interesting conversation, I said why is it that I have not heard any women stand up and denounce the National Football League force Congress to remove their tax exempt status which Congress can do with one stroke of the pen and truly forced the commissioner to resign over a player in one of the richest sports in the world who cold cocks his girlfriend, and we saw it on video. Slams her, drags her out of the elevator like she's a sack of potatoes

33:33 And quite honestly, where was Molly Wood? I didn't see her on CBS talking about that. Where was the outrage? I would join any woman for the outrage to tell the NFL to go pound sand but that never happens and this is disturbing to me. Well it never happens because its not directed to happen Thank you. Exactly. If you'd be disturbed by anything, it should be disturbed by what I'm always disturbed by which is that people are being led around by the nose...by of course the most as we discussed about a year ago when we had the last Edelman event where they did talked about who do you trust? It's essentially

34:11 A use of, or an examination of all the different types of organization and individuals—media, police. The most trusted people in the world are NGOs. Yes, non-governmental organizations which are funded often by USAID and other corporations above it. Who knows? They always have an agenda though. And so the AAUW which is leading this push about the 70 whatever percent... 77%. is an NGO, and so they're all whatever they say goes. So since they don't bring it up if they go to the webpage you see nothing about these football players pounding on women then it's not an issue this is like we talked about in the last show of The New York Times and these other newspapers that if they don't write it up than your local paper you don't write it up. This is horrible!

35:10 And I'm only doing this, this is not about whether women are still not equal in society. We have a lot of work to do! And I think that we are both huge proponents of women and want to, and we've helped many women to accelerate far beyond us. Far beyond us! I don't think you need to start making excuses No excuses but i do have women discussing this issue because we're probably not uh... We will not be accepted as qualified but first let's play a little bit of the State Of The Union from the president to hear what the real message was which

35:47 Yes, it's true what he is saying but now we have an actual bill on the table which I have some professional advice may not be the best thing for women. In fact it may counter what women are looking for but this is the messaging that went out in the State of Union last year. Today women make up about half our workforce But they still make 77 cents per every dollar a man earns That has now become 78 apparently You've gone one penny is the message That is wrong. And in 2014, it's an embarrassment! Women deserve equal pay for equal work. Absolutely! Standing ovation and deservedly so She deserves to have a baby without sacrificing her job A mother deserves a day off to care for sick child or sick parent without running into hardship You know what? A father does too

37:00 It is time to do away with workplace policies that belong in a Mad Men episode. This year, let's all come together Congress the White House businesses from Wall Street to Main Street, to give every woman the opportunity she deserves. Because I believe when women succeed America succeeds." So that is an excellent speech everyone went wild and it's a funny line about madmen. And i think we've progressed a little bit since the days of Mad Men But I wanted to understand the process of the Equal Pay Act. Of course, we have the Lilly Ledbetter Act as an employer you can get in serious trouble if if you are caught. In fact women can today sue many years after the fact for a back pay and other punitive damages If they can show that they were

37:53 discriminated against in the workplace, certainly with compensation. So this is not something that is very smart for any employer to do And I found a piece from Milton Friedman. Do you hold Milton Friedman, the economist...what kind of stature do you have? I hold him in high regard yes and he was during every economic 40-year era there one this is kind of interesting one of these guys will emerge and they have every forty years as you go going way back Friedman was the guy who explained what happened in the 70s, which was the stagflation situation. So he became the dominant economist and then...and these guys coincidentally every one of them dies within their own era so they can't really do anything about what happens wrong which is you know we're having issues now anyway go on. So he died in 2006 but he was that 1976 recipient of the Nobel Prize in Economic Studies. So you have to agree that... He's not a slouch

38:53 Not an actually very funny guy. And he addressed, of course he didn't address this current bill that is being discussed which would be regulations more regulations for equal pay for equal work for men and women. I had to listen to this twice i think we'll be able to listen to it once and then get through with this was a speech they did at Harvard in... This has gotta be late 90's about when this was already an issue and so he talks about this, then he gets a question from a female student and then he elaborates. And when you think about it, wow the guy is smart! Equal pay for equal work laws are a source of apartheid You know the basic source of apartheid in South Africa was the insistence by trade unions on equal pay for equal work The women who go around today urging equal pay for equal work are being anti-feminist This got my attention as you can imagine

39:56 Yes. Okay... They don't intend to be, but that is the effect of their policy because if there is any activity in which for any reason a male is preferable to female or vice versa the only weapon the less productive sex has is to offer to work for less and if you deny them that opportunity You're assuring yourself that you're gonna have all male jobs or all female jobs, or white jobs are all black jobs. This sounds so counterintuitive when you hear it for the first time but when you start to think and he goes into explain it again... ...you see the error of the thinking! But aren't also condemning him to stay that way? Not at all not at all a typical course if you go back to American history by taking these low-paid jobs

40:45 A great many people, not all but a great many people were able to develop skills and activities accumulate a little skill, a little capital or knowledge improve their lot become advanced in the stage get to a higher level of productivity and get a higher income that's been the typical way up the ladder for most of the people who came in here was it way up the ladder for my parents? For your parents' or grandparents', or great-grandparents'? I don't know. Which And that's the way in which, unfortunately there is no way in which you can immediately propel people to the top of the ladder. Now get ready for his second explanation and it really becomes clear Mr Friedman referring to the statements that you made about women who advocate equal pay for equal work Gee I thought I'd get a rise out of that sooner or later

41:33 By the way, there's guys in the audience douchebags laughing. They don't get it either until he really explains it Yes Okay I just would like to know if you're insinuating or perhaps you know point-blankly saying that women and other minority skills are inferior to those of those now holding those jobs, and that they need to go through a period where their skills needs be improved and therefore deserve to be paid less? No. I don't think dessert has anything to do with it. First of all, I think dessert is an impossible thing to decide who deserves what nobody deserves anything

42:12 Thank God we don't get what we deserve. That's a good line! But I'm not saying that at all, I am saying a very different thing... ...I'm saying that the actual effect of requiring equal pay for equal work will be to harm women If women skills are higher than men in particular job and are recognized as being higher The law does no good because then they will be able to compete away and can get the same income If their skills are less for whatever reason, maybe it isn't because they're sex. Maybe it's because they were out of the labor force. Maybe it's for other reasons and you say the only way you can... You are able to hire them is by paying the same wage then you're denying them The only weapon they have to fight with if the unwillingness of a man to hire him is because men are sexist Are what's-the-phrase racist misogynists? Sexist pigs or whatever I don't think they had that word back then

43:11 If that's the only reason they want to hire him, nonetheless. You want to make it costly for them to exercise their prejudice? If you say to them, hmmm...you have to pay the same wage no matter whether you hire women or men and here is Mr. Sexist Pig It doesn't cost him anything to hire men instead of women. However, if the women are free to compete and say well now look I'll offer my work for less then he can only hire men if he bears a cost If the women are really good as man...as good as a man then he's paying a price for discriminating in what you're doing not intentionally

43:48 But by misunderstanding, when you try to get equal pay for equal work laws is what you are doing is reducing the zero. The cost imposed on people who are discriminating for irrelevant reasons and I would like to see a cost imposed on them." This was mind-blowing when I thought about it for a moment It's completely true! The last thing you want is equality because then there is no penalty for hiring a man Right. I think, well...but no one ever thinks this conversation is not being discussed? Well no because it doesn't fit into what the NGOs are telling people how people should be thinking. By the way, I want to mention that Milton Friedman was one of the promoters of what Nixon introduced which never went anywhere which is a negative income tax which is not quite what they're doing in Switzerland

44:46 or what they're starting to do in Switzerland. If you want to take a quick little step here, play the clip that I have on Swiss... Yeah, I got Swiss giving away money? Play that so we get a little background on this. The truckload. The proposed basic income initiative arrived with a splash and the promise of 2 000 euro a month for every swiss citizen intended to let them live without basic financial worry Live without financial worry. What a great idea, says Elizabeth Nolan Brown an editor at Reason.com No it's a terrible idea says economist Ed Strangham

45:26 Elizabeth, you gotta convince me. Why is this a good idea? People will just waste the money and then government will say we have to spend more! Well I think...I don't know that I agree exactly with the plan that they have but there are all different versions of this even Milton Friedman proposed some version of this with the negative income tax so it's not an anti-libertarian position per se Charles Murray my libertarian hero wrote a book A Plan To Replace Welfare Stake gives everyone 10 thousand bucks We've talked about this, the guaranteed minimum income. There's a lot of conversations about this right? Yep

46:02 Anyway, just as an aside this is what Friedman was pushing. One of his many ideas... And I have to say when i look at our president's new initiative which he calls the creating opportunities for millennials did you receive the emails? No! I didn't. You know I have not been routinely opening the mails from Obama What's interesting is that somehow I'm subscribed Two two different email addresses. I think I've subscribed you to most of them yeah, thanks Okay Hi Mimi now that you're ready for Hillary. Yeah, I have that one Thank you But what they're doing is they are sending the same message with different different subject lines They so there they are a be testing for opens and stuff because I'm getting

46:51 And interesting, I don't know why. I'm never getting this...I'm always getting two different subject lines on two different atcurry.com email addresses which is... Yeah they are that's a A-B test. They're doing AB testing and if you look at the president's plan for millennials it's all about getting you into debt as quickly as possible with educational system that's the plan for creating jobs and no it's the plan for creating debt slaves My current thinking is that maybe this guaranteed minimum income is not such a bad idea. At least you're not a slave to debt, people are going to be

47:29 you know, cannon fodder and worthless eventually anyway. I agree with this 100%. Every time I bring it up by...it really creates a lot of argument because of the just the knee-jerk Zion Randism ideas that it can never be but economically speaking, I think it's a better deal than most people what they can look forward to Yeah, that's way in the nonsense that all you give people $2,000 a month or 10,000 whatever it is That Stossel said in that clip. They're just gonna waste it. No they're not gonna what makes you say? That yeah It's a bit of stereotype to say if you give some poor person $2000 to sustain themselves for awhile that they're going to waste it and

48:17 So now I want to wind this up by playing a small piece which aired on the Wall Street Journal website. Do they have TV channels or just all video of them doing it online? No, it's all online and they do have a show every so there are a couple shows that are syndicated. Yeah right yeah they syndicate some stuff So this is a woman from the AAUW and they are the ones that are propagating this 78 cents. But when she gets deeper into it, even she can only show through...and she talks about the methodologies and how we do the research

48:56 This woman can really only show a 6% difference, which is still...it's not okay. I'm not trying to say because it's less it doesn't make any difference. Yeah of course there's discrimination all over the world for all kinds of reasons with ageism and all kinds of discrimination but certainly against women But then there's this other woman from the International Women's Forum, I believe. And here is at least three women talking about it so we can shut up. Joining me now is Erin Prangley, the Associate Director of Government Relations for the American Association of University Women. Along with her today we have Sabrina Schaefer, the Executive Director of the Independent Women's Forum. Erin let's start with you your group has been particularly vocal that the gender pay gap exists that its a problem how do you think these actions today could help?

49:43 Thank you so much. The American Association has worked on this issue for a very long time and quite frankly we're thrilled, and we're relieved. I'm sorry this is because the president was it Sarah what's her name? The actress in California And he was talking about, we're going to get this done. We're going to get this bill passed and you know...we need to have more laws to force people into the equality which if you follow Friedman's logic will actually hurt women. It is a great step for women and their families across the country AUW research has shown that even accounting for all different factors career education there is still unexplained pay gap

50:27 which many believe is due to workplace discrimination. Sabrina, I want to go to you in addition to these executive actions the president is also pushing for the Paycheck Fairness Act and Congress You don't think these will actually make that big of a difference in advancing equal pay? Why is that? No, that's exactly right. Well first of all this is premised on the faulty 77 cent statistic that women only make 77 cents on every dollar a man earns. Even the White House yesterday conceded this point that this is gross overstatement when you control for any number of very important factors college major time spent out in the workforce time spent in office each day

51:04 The wage gap all but disappears and so we want to make sure that we're not creating more legislation based on A, a faulty statistic and B that won't actually close the wage gap. What the bill will do is pad the pockets of trial lawyers who will be lining up because women will automatically filed into class suits there will no cap on damages this'll make it harder for employers It's high remuneration to actual work product. This is a disaster and will have nothing to do with actually protect women or men in the workplace." I think these are very good points! You know, we talk about the glass ceiling. There's a lot of stereotypes that are really back from the 60s that have had if you really start looking at it have gone away the number of women CEOs in high positions and big companies let me name a few The CEO of PepsiCo is a woman the CEO of crafts a woman the CB CEO of IBM's a woman the CEO of HP's A woman the CEO of Xerox is a woman the CEO of Binkoo

52:12 Brazilian Petrobras is a woman, Yahoo! Disney. Well, well Disney's of ABC part of Disney. WellPoint the second biggest healthcare operation Avon General Motors Time Inc I mean you go on and on and on why don't these women take care of this problem themselves? Well this is an excellent point where are they? Where are they saying we're fixing it I think they probably know. They're smarter than this, but this is not about women This is the point that I want to make as we look into AAUW This is actually the most anti-feminist organization They are abusing women misusing them to get people to vote for the Democratic Party in these upcoming elections which is why this is taking place right now and they have $113 million dollars in the bank In the bank! These people

53:03 I want to talk about in a minute. Just listen to the rest of this because it's a great conversation and it's amongst women, thank you! Aaron, I want to go back to you because we do tend to cite that 77 cents for every dollar that men earn Yeah, because they're being led by the messaging which is all part of the system which is how it works in politics And there has been a lot of criticism around that number What did you guys find when you dug into the pay gap? So thanks for bringing that up. You know, I think the 77 set number is actually not being used appropriately by some folks in fact AAUW has done our most recent report graduating to a pay gap an apples-to-apples comparison of women and men just one year out of college And when you look at that there's still an unexplained pay gap

53:53 What is disturbing to me is those who would write off this gap as not significant. Listen, a pay gap which affects your earnings is going to have a significant impact on your opportunities and choices whether you go back to school or whether you can afford a car, all of these issues are very real for young women graduating right now just one year who are making 7% less. So this is the real number? Seven percent! That's a big difference from the 33%, they've been talking about or it's 23% that have been talking about and seven percent... It still it's inexcusable but

54:36 Life is at first not fair and it's a lot better than the madman days now if you go into an open-ended job, and You are offered the job at 7% less than the guys offered the job And you take that you know in other words. You're offering I'm offering you a job for 10 bucks and The woman comes along and says I'll do the job for nine dollars and Nancy 93 cents yeah And you as the employer say, okay I'm gonna hire the woman. And the guy doesn't get the job! It seems to me that's the mechanism at work... low-balling. Well now your agreeing with Friedman of course this is only way you can actually advance and move forward

55:23 But the legislative route is a very... And if you want to, by the way look at these numbers we should start looking at the course. We brought this up with Nadella. Start looking at the Indian pay for programming with H-1B visas versus anybody! How many old people work at Facebook? How many programmers who are 60 work at Facebook? There's plenty of qualified programmers out there who are 60 that won't get a job. Zero, I bet you there is zero at Facebook. They're probably 0 over 50 let's try 40 Now let's listen to the rest of this because these two women do finish...I like this conversation, I like Eve dropping on it. same job, graduating from the same school with working the same hours in the same industries and occupations. So if you look at graduating to a pay gap and the methodology we use, you can see that the pay gap is very real." Alright thanks for that Erin. Sabrina I'm going back to you for the last word there have been some studies which say when you control for education when you control for the job there still is some kind of a pay gap there what's your take on that? Is there something that needs to be done

56:25 Well, first of all there is a very small pay gap. Maybe four or five six cents some of which may be explained by discrimination certainly some of it maybe explained by women's choices and women's behavior things like what we know for instance that women don't negotiate their wages as often as men do this can have an impact as well What we want to remind new viewers is that there are already laws on the books right? The Equal Pay Act of 1963 in the Civil Rights Act of 1964 both protect women and men against faceless gender discrimination. The Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, which the president is touting today allows women to sue for literally years after they might have discovered they were discriminated against so what we really want is to provide the tools to women to better themselves learn how to negotiate to learn conflict resolution to learn how to get that corner office this law won't do that this law will simply pad the pockets of trial lawyers

57:16 Well, that's not correct. It addresses inequity We're gonna sorry we're out of time we're gonna have to do this Shut up shut up slave so let me just done Let me just talk around the time just by the way bothers me more than anything else yeah There's no guy knows totally not okay? Here's the aauw with current Net assets $119,968. This is the woman who is talking about the pay gap and how we need to do things they have a lot of money received 10 and a half million dollars this year of course we can't really tell where it's coming from but I will tell you what they spend it on their top three programs outreach

58:02 as a core organizational function includes the programs and activities that communicate with members in the general public in order to advance equity for women and girls through education, philanthropy and research implemented at national local levels. So they're a lobbying group and they're very, very well funded clearly. And what I thought was interesting is how they spend some of this money...I like looking at these Form 990s because it's funny things how they run this business. I wanted to ask you what you thought about this? So first of all, they put $11.5 million dollars of their money into the Lighthouse Diversified Fund. They also have about half a million dollars in mineral rights under the Investments and Securities

58:49 part of their forum. Now it's okay, it makes sense for them to invest but the Lighthouse Fund is very funny that they would do that because it is formally the Monroe Partners all of the former Monroe partners are in there and if you look at who Monroe was uh Monroe Trout Jr Who I believe has passed on now, but he was a complete Ayn Rand objectivism fan. It's pretty much the opposite of what...I think what the AAUW would want to be or want to be known as very interesting To see where they're putting their money But the way they spend it and you tell me if this makes any sense to you John here we go

59:34 So fundraising activities. They have one, two three... they've won fundraising consultants in Arlington Virginia and they spent $174,665 and that resulted in zero gross receipts from the activities as a consultant then they had telemarketing membership development from Gordon & Schwenkmeyer Inc., in El Segundo California They raised $78,611 and they paid for that fundraising drive $76,604. And as a net result $2,000... $2,007. This seems like a bad deal! Yeah I mean how does that work? It didn't work out Well here's another one ComNet Marketing in Medford Oregon

1:00:34 Gross receipts from activity $42,765. They paid to the fundraiser this marketing group 46 thousand four hundred and ninety-one they lost three thousand seven hundred twenty six dollars on the deal How does that work? So they raised people sent money forty six thousand dollars was sent in Yeah And then the guys who made the call took all of it yeah Well how does I know that's pretty common by the way in boiler rooms Well, they were hoping... They had developed a pitch. They went to the boiler room company, these marketers, the telemarketers and they went back and forth with what can you do for me? What we can make in the boiler room guys as usual would promise the moon and deliver nothing. I see it differently. These guys have a Rolodex and they're going to call someone

1:01:29 outside of their activity. And here's my bill, it's $76,000 and we'll raise some money for you but really we're just taking your money for you getting access to the 10 million dollars you did receive because if you look at the total gross receipts for their name and uh...for their fundraising activities as listed on their tax form They raised $160,325 and they paid out to the very people who raised this $160,000 343,831 a net loss of 183,506. I'm saying maybe you shouldn't fundraise! Well the argument against that is... You get your name out there and it's like brand advertising where

1:02:19 put the brand name on it. I just like to know where the other $9.5 million came from, they don't tell you that. It came from direct sales. That's where you get... Direct sales? Direct sales is what it amounts to. You go to various foundations that dole out money we talk about them all the time if we started making a Rolodex we'd have a big one And we talk about them all the time on the show and you go to them directly and they give you a check for $100,000. Here's a check for...okay what are you doing? Here is a check for 250. Those are the big money. That's the big money then there little money which is their trying to uh... They can't seem to get it because I don't know if their pitch is no good. I'm more inclined to think that their pitch sucks

1:03:01 Well, anyway end result. I would implore the women and the feminist movement and I count...I believe I am a feminist! I'm very... What? Go on it's bullcrap. What's bull crap?! I'M A FEMINIST! I'M A LESBIAN! I see guys do this all the time it's just a kiss-ass commentary go on good sorry just bugs me when somebody says they're a feminist and they're a guy It's for women only. It's a womens-only club, hello? Well what can I call myself? I'm a promoter of women? Sympathetic maybe? Sympathetic to the feminist movement that's fine! Okay...I am sympathetic to the feminist movement! Okay that's good, I like that And i want you to be aware that your being duped

1:03:48 by a bunch of people who only want you to vote Democrat for their own good. They do not care about you! Brode, this is the common theme I think we could probably do half our stuff as just trying to screw women into voting Democrat and it's working! Yes the Republicans are stupid they don't know how to do this they're completely dumb They're flat-footed i don't think they're stupid I think there's a couple of things going on. One, I don't think they're noticing. Yeah that's even worse. I think they're very naive. They are literally stupid. I think they are naive and not noticing and the activists in the Republican side which would include people like O'Reilly who is a Democrat let say Sean Hannity How about Limbaugh? It's Sean Hannity and Limbaugh good examples. They are clueless

1:04:44 And they're leading and they're also, I don't know. There's a bunch of things...I listen to these guys and I'm always thinking that they're so kind of arrogant about it which is also annoying to women because arrogant men are not well-received has been, I think. I think I'm right on that Yeah, I don't know. All I know is that there'll be left and right every time you turn around the other Republicans expect to take the Senate in this next election? I don't think they're gonna do it Everybody says they're gonna do it. I don't see it So I think they're gonna get sideswiped once again because they don't know what's going on in the culture so I would just say To just to wrap this up that I

1:05:30 I saw the video what Ray Rice did and i was shocked. Shocked! I've never hit a woman, I know what it's like to be hit in the face... I'm not unpleasant. I have not been knocked out but certainly saw stars like in the cartoons and that has just been papered over? And there is just no absolute outrage about that yet You know, let's go after the equal pay. When the atrocities against women are so rampant across the world and it has to be for everything! It can't just be all this yelling about the pay gap!" I don't want to sound racist here

1:06:17 But there is an overriding assumption that black people are Democrats. And so this issue with this black guy punching out a black woman should not be brought to the fore because it would not help the cause of getting women to vote Democrat. So they'll never come up in the conversation Not that we're going to fix this, but I did want to at least play Milton Friedman. And I want people to hear these two women having this conversation because the actual...I have not seen the text of the bill but the actual bill seems like it would not help women and the narrative that is being presented by people like Sarah Silverman and although its funny you know vagina tax

1:07:04 It is not, it does not appear that the solution is going to help you and if anything you are being manipulated. Duped! Duped into something that may not be advantageous to you and that's it I think you made your point. I think I have too Please don't make it again Ever again, Stu? I'm gonna show my salute by donating to No Agenda Imagine all of people who could deal with us Oh yeah, that'd be fab No I just want to make sure that, you know... This was a long conversation and it was very, you know when men and women these conversations are going to be held. And in-and I think that everyone deserves a little extra information that you're not getting on the-I don't know what the fuck do i know? I'm just saying this is some information you might wanna have! Do you uh did you get any who won the argument okay you had you Mark who else was at this little dinner just you and Mark and Mickey at our house and who else

1:08:06 No one. Oh mark came over as a solo mm-hmm, maybe he's expecting like a threesome or something I Didn't cross my mind all talk to him about it We are going to Panama with the three of us on a sailboat now. Now. I'm worried Thanks, let's introduce you oh a sailboat We're going for this side without Make it let's make our own someplace new hello Natalie wood He went he was angry. He left in the rowboat, and we never heard from him again Yeah Because I did you mean yeah? That's how this is bullcrap He's a lawyer about our friend mark. So he's he's a lawyer No, but I'm all all I want is when I see what's going on in the news And what is what as laws are being presented and it you know I hear The message is being propagated

1:09:09 Because it's very compelling. Sarah Silverman says things, it's a very compelling message. Yeah luckily a lot of women don't like Sarah Silverman so that's the plus side But just having some basic information is part of what we do no matter how uncomfortable No I'm not arguing about it! I think you did a fine job. Thank ya Alright move on Hello everybody thank you very much The basis...I still want to figure out this I didn't know about the threesome There's no threesome! There's NO threesome Well then we'll be on the boat We're going to the indigenous people of Panama, which Mickey hopes to photograph. Do you want take a train or go through Mexico? You can only get there by boat

1:09:50 You can't get to these places any other way. You can take the Pan Am, that highway that goes all the way down to South America? These are islands John. Oh you're going to islands! Yeah there's a whole separate state their own state. I didn't realize this part of this story. Geez I better take out some insurance policies Sir Mark Workman, I want to thank you. You didn't say in the morning? Hey what i want to say is Thank you for your courage and in the morning to you John C Dvorak! I was so confused that I played The Beatles jingle which we don't even do. Jingle your own mess. I am a mess. And I would be too if I was taking a boat to the middle of nowhere For threesome. To you in the morning all our ships are sea boots on the ground feeding the airships in the water and the dames and knights out there I wanna thank sir mark Wait let me thank everyone in the chat room

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1:24:46 It's been interesting to... this Ebola thing is just so out of control. I got no Ebola clips. Um, do i have any? I think I do actually This is so out of control What do I have here? Yes this a woman from the World Health Organization Dr. Eileen Marty and she was interviewed for..I don't even think it was a TV show web thing like Vice or Vox or whatever it is. And she has come back from West Africa and I do have a, before we even get into that, I have a question you know they always say this thing has no borders Ebola knows no borders strangely enough it's in Nigeria which is pretty much not West Africa

1:25:43 So it did know how to jump into that border. But if you look at the most recent news from this week, Côte d'Ivoire, the Ivory Coast has now resumed its flights to countries struck by the Ebola virus. Now the Ivory Coast went through its little issues a year or two ago And I think we straightened all of that out and there's no more political... We fixed it. We fixed the Ivory Coast, and if you look at the Ebola outbreak it stops at the border of the Ivory Coast Why is it not spilling over into the Ivory Coast? And why are they resuming their flights back to their neighboring country where there are huge outbreaks? Why would they do that?

1:26:34 But because it's bogative? That would be pretty much what I'm thinking. And there is this map, I think the Guardian has a map... It was in the show notes so i am not quite sure who and where did this come from but you can see Ivory Coast just has nothing! It has no Ebola but it neighbors on Sierra Leone Where is this? Here it is Distribution Map Who makes this map let me take a look at this thing This is, oh CDC. There you go CDC! So we have Guinea which has uh... they got a little piece of the action there then Sierra Leone Liberia and then it just stops at the border of Cote d'Ivoire just stops

1:27:19 How is it possible? We're not really at the border. On this map, it is... A few cases inside the country I'm looking at a map It's not like it puts up against the border Okay let me show you- I'm gonna put into Skype window right now You go take a look This from CDC and you tell me that its not right up against the border exactly what I am saying from the CDC The people who are telling you about this danger Do we have the link I got something beeped at me and now i gotta find where the link cropped up. This is... They've changed your experience, they've upgraded your experience again on Skype but there's a little plus thing here I think? I got it, I got it, I got it. And this says 2014 Ebola outbreak in West Africa. Ebola! The outbreak distribution map Now you tell me that its not right up against the border So what?!

1:28:14 But that's the point. Oh, actually that's not true look there's a little bleed. That's just because whoever made the map couldn't color inside the line no no it's not up against the border there's bleed oh not a lot John there's not a lot of bleeding what is all its creeping I think that's the impression they're trying to give us that its creeping past the border so they can prove their points are your point is null and void okay alright fine I'm null and void Dr. Marty, Dr. Eileen Marty who just came back from Nigeria even says that she's baffled the whole World Health Organization is baffled how this can happen She does have some answers to it but she starts off with the way to shake hands in Africa. Fist bump! Not even...it's the Bluetooth

1:29:06 So first, and so of course this is visual. What they're selling phones now? Is that the idea behind the whole thing? Wait until you hear it! Move some phones... First you touch elbows or kind of elbow what is your forearm You touch forearms then you do the Bluetooth which is a fist bump that doesn't touch But also, kissing on the cheek would be even less dangerous. Just listen to this very interesting, very interesting... What we were doing in Africa and that I found that what we were doing in Africa was extremely effective as a public health measure not just for Ebola but for

1:29:43 many other diseases that we're communicating to each other all the time. Get ready for it, this is going to be...the president will be doing this pretty soon with Michelle the Bluetooth. Can you show me how? Sure! It's just like that and its very friendly actually. A little pushy. It's actually very intimate. We do this touching elbows very intimate is touching you I should just do a little simple wave or do a hip thrust I think that's read each other from now on we do the blue. I'm just winking hey girls No, you don't touch. Oh, you're in touch. We don't touch Bluetooth

1:30:20 Just like that. Yeah, exactly! And do you think it's going to become cool in the United States? I sure hope so... It would be great to switch from the handshake into something that is going to reduce all all kinds of infectious diseases. So no kissing like we do in the Latino community? I love kissing, don't get me wrong but a little less you know... Tongue! You know when you kiss on the cheek that's actually less dangerous than holding hands

1:30:57 Because when you grab somebody's hand, your fingers are likely to touch mucous membranes from which you can bring in organisms. When you're talking to people and they get close to you and they want to shake hands and you sort of move back do they say oh this doctor is too rude? Back off Dracula! What?! Back off Dracula! You don't mind? I just tell them why i'm doing it and I laugh and and I explain what's going on And most people understand. I think you're right, I think that your idea of a hip thrust is much more fun Yeah

1:31:36 Now it would be universal everyone could do it. Everyone knows how to do it Do you thrust your pay is that a pelvic thrust or you trust like you're doing the old Austrian huggy just give him one of those couldn't y'all can also go like James Brown? Oh, yeah You should make the noise hit me two times It's an educational moment That's an educational moment. So you were in Nigeria? You were supposed to go to Sierra Leone, but then you ended up going to Nigeria? Correct What do you see in Nigeria?

1:32:14 Well, yes you see... Tremendous poverty mixed with some areas of wealth. But the vast majority of the population is incredibly impoverished even in the major cities there are open sewers a lot of pollution But I also found a population of individuals who were extremely eager to assist the international community in helping to get rid of the epidemic in Nigeria. What did happen in West Africa? I wonder, would these people who are so willing to assist the international community—were they willing to bring freedom and democracy into the country as well? Is that part of what they're so incredibly excited about doing?

1:32:58 Well, I was watching some France 24 coverage and it's really they're more interested in getting a paycheck. Yeah well that's...I also think there are just elites who are ready to take over the country and all of the oil that is there. They've already taken over the country i don't think we need them Maintain. Kosey Abdul. Nobody knows why Ebola ended up in this outbreak in West Africa, no one knows how it got to Guinea because its never been there before. Not discussed a lot huh? Now one reason that has been thrown out there as a possibility and its real risk is... Bats! Yeah exactly right you know why we know how the bats I've never heard of them. Global warming

1:33:46 That would really put the cherry on top of it, but no. There's bushmeat involved one of the problems... And let me tell you whenever there is bush meat I'm right at the front of the line ladies and gentlemen. ...is that animals can get sick with Ebola And there's a tremendous desire to eat, for example, bats. They think bat meat is delicious! I did not... We have bats all over Austin and we are so going to die! Have the Bat Restaurant you know? You can make your money or make your millions by opening the Bat Restaurant in Santa in Austin It's the Bat Bushmeat restaurant as far as I'm concerned Yeah, Bat Bushmeat restaurant But once again- I'M YOUR PROPRIETOR ADAM CURRY Somehow were able to blame it on bush it's amazing how they do this

1:34:31 I didn't taste. No, no and i'm not that brave So, bat meat...so if someone transported an infected animal and it's not the carcass. Well the carcass is a danger until it's cooked so uncooked carcass of an infected animal from say somewhere in the Congo where this has been described before. This is ridiculous! It's absolutely ridiculous. Not as though they only have their own local Bush meat. Bush meat! He said bush meat, it's mostly monkeys by the way that's bush meat they don't I never heard of him eating bats so for all of the smartness that I heard from producer Mark yesterday before he left you said I don't understand I'm so worried about Ebola and I like mark are you fine when is the last time you listened to our show yeah it has been a little while

1:35:29 Dude, you've been-you've been propagandized and I explained the whole Smith Mundt act and he was pretty blown away by that of course. Have you seen one person? One! One person bleeding from the eyeballs with blisters puking on camera No have you seen more than five people in rain slickers with ski goggles no Where is the epidemic? All I see is people who have it getting out of ambulances on their own power. I see so-called children with Ebola walking around and laying down for the camera, this is... It's crazy! You know the one untold story which nobody's picking up in our media but I ran into it on France 24 again Is that the Russians

1:36:18 who probably realized that this is a weaponized agent long ago. They have three vaccines they're ready to roll out." Oh, really? I didn't know that! Yes! Russian Ebola vaccines or E-BOLA. Ebola... Where's our Ebola chick? Hold on a second. Ebola. Ebola. Ebola. Good questions at the State Department briefing unfortunately It's not the Matt and Marie show. Jen is back. Oh, yeah. Psaki is no fun but she can't answer that. Yeah I agree and man and Matt also you know he other guys are picking up the slack now you know Matt just pile jumping he's not even starting stuff off but this was a good question that she can't answer it and she got kind of testy about it He's lovesick

1:37:14 That is lovesick. I have a question about the Ebola policy. Yesterday, Secretary Kerry said that the U.S would like to see airlines continue to fly in and out of three countries in Africa that have been stricken by the virus and want borders to remain open at the same time Dr Thomas Friedman, the director of CDC said that about 150 people per day are entering the United States from those countries and that the policy going forward is to check them when they arrive, to see if they're asymptomatic and question them whether or not they'll admit that they had contact with someone with Ebola. If they're asymptomatic and don't say they had contact then they will be allowed into the country. And of course Mr Duncan did not admit having contact with a person with Ebola he was asymptomatic when

1:37:57 arrived. Dr Frieden's explanation of that policy seemed to be a sort of cost-benefit analysis, that the American people were getting a greater benefit both in financial terms and also in terms of our ability to fight the virus... I'm sorry do you have a question? Yes! Oh boy facts are annoying aren't they Jim? If we could fight the virus at its source then the price that we might pay by letting people into this country without going through an incubation period from those countries where people are suffering from Ebola. So my question for the State Department is... What? Who is this idiot? He's just one of the press corps, don't worry it's a- his question is valid he saying what good is this if you have 150 people a day coming in I don't think there's any direct flights by the way from these countries but okay

1:38:44 Coming in, shouldn't you just quarantine them all if we're that worried about it? If look at all the fear. You should quarantine them because you can't trust them to tell the truth if you have global entry you just passing right through This is a very valid question for those of us who have been scared into believing the bullcrap. We're measured in terms of American lives that might be affected by this, American lives lost or permanently altered by... Lost or created Ebola Is there a point at which that cost-benefit analysis tips and it would it would be seen as a mistake to have let people travel here without a quarantine period? Is one American contracting Ebola? Is it five? Is it ten? It's a very good question!

1:39:26 So since we're not doing quarantine, we're not really shoring everything up. We just scaring people by showing you pictures of pointing a gun thermometer at your head okay? You're good to go or we trust you because it's not true all this is just it's just not true I'm just not believing it He's saying, you know so what is it five Americans that died because of these policies not being airtight? It's a valid question. At what point would the policy have to be re-examined and seen as improvement? Well one I think what you're referring to in part is some of the new announcements that were made by The White House or are in the process of being made about measures that are being put into place to screen over 94% of passengers. Well 94%, that doesn't sound like enough!

1:40:12 arriving from Ebola-affected Western African countries. We continue to take steps and evaluate what steps that can be taken, uh, to of course not only protect American citizens but continue to treat... do everything we can to address this outbreak and I would also note that Dr. Frieden has also made comments by isolating these countries, it would make it harder to help them. It will spread more there and we'd be likely to be exposed more here so there are reasons for finding ways to address... You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna get me one of those um they're not hazmat suits they just like Breaking Bad you can just get one of this blue I'm just gonna go shopping in the HEB with it

1:40:55 I think it would be very... Let's see how people respond. Well, you know, I told my story before about sitting next to the person that had the mask on at a Southwest flight. And we fly. Mickey and I are both going to be in these suits I'm just gonna fly that. What's your problem? I'm afraid of Ebola You'll get thrown off the flight! I don't know about that! I do know about that, you will be Why?! Because i want to protect myself? Some passengers will object to you being on the flight like that and you'll be thrown off Where can you buy these? I'm sure they have them on ebay Don't they The real hazmat suits No no...I want the fake ones those guys have Oh thats just a raincoat

1:41:36 Goddels. Maybe Amazon Prime has it, let me see... If I just do Ebola hazmats- Suit! Who knows? And yes! DuPont large yellow Tykem QC chemical protection coveralls $19.99 with Amazon Prime That's a steal Get them order now click Now here's the one you want this is it $215. The Tykem BR hazmat suit, chemical protective clothing... Oh it's a size medium I needed large Attached gloves and booties zipper front closure and removable hood This thing looks dynamite! And look at this- I gotta send you this link Okay This looks dyna- the guy has uh he's holding uh a sign A traffic sign that says slow This is pretty interesting You can also get it in gray

1:42:33 This is not- this is a pretty good deal. Oh, I like the guy holding the sign that says slow And you can get the 3M full face piece Reusable respirator? This isn't- I'm doing this! I am going to- I'm gonna try it first at the HEB. I'm just gonna walk around Take them to the farmer's market. The farmers, they'll be laughing at me! They'l get the joke. Look at the pictures on the side this is a dynamite outfit I don't like it as much as the ones they're using with underwater goggles Well that's not underwater goggles those are ski goggles

1:43:13 Yeah, but you want to have... It has a big giant. This is actually looks like it'd be useful. Might actually work well on that note the um and here's your problem here's your problem they have the booties go uh the plastic goes over the shoe so that you walk around just for a few minutes and you're going to wear a hole into the bottom all right You gotta find something that's more like the ones that you don't have to worry about that. You can have boots on, oh actually you could put the boots... Okay it looks like the thing has got a yeah- They are wearing Tyvex I have it here That's the brand I'm looking at the uh Yeah It has got a pant leg so you can put a shoe under it Yeah you do not need that yellow stuff on the foot Now check this out USAID Has done a crowd source initiative

1:43:59 Let me find the action. They went to a funding operation USAID because they don't have enough money? A grand challenge for development here it is, USAID Ebola virus has infected thousands of people in West Africa the alert has been sounded by governments of Guinea Liberia Sierra Leone not the Ivory Coast and the world is scrambling to respond to curtail further suffering and bringing this epidemic under control As President Obama said yesterday at the United Nations, Ebola is a horrific disease blah blah blah. In response to this challenge every day in hot human and extremely difficult environments health care workers in Ebola affected countries are performing critical tasks that save lives and prevent the spread of the virus personal protective equipment which is known as PPE offers critical protection but also is the greatest source of discomfort and stress for the workers

1:44:53 While PPEs protect healthcare workers, they cannot be worn for more than 40 minutes in hot climates severely limiting the time health care workers can care for their patients. In response to this challenge and the unprecedented Ebola outbreak USAID is partnering with the White House Office of Science and Technology, The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention other US agencies and the government of Sweden to lock them... Is Tyvek from Sweden? I'll bet you it is No! It's from DuPont and the government of Sweden to launch Fighting Ebola, a grand challenge for development to help healthcare workers on the front lines provide better care and stop the spread of Ebola. And they're asking it to come up with a Better Hazmat suits and the prize is $1 million. Interesting! Maybe that's what this is all about from the get-go? Why Sweden though? Why Sweden? Why would the government of Sweden care? Let me say... Isn't that interesting?!

1:46:01 And there's guidelines. Kind of interesting. There are guidelines for the challenge here and we can see if we can participate. Okay, uh... No this is just a guy you can't be an employee okay it's like a contest That's strange. But I think one of these hazmat suits, that's the deal- Mickey has one! What am i talking about? She's got a blue one! What is it for?! Where'd she get it!? What's going on over there?? We're in Austin!! She has one! She used it for her spray painting project! Yes, I can use hers! It's paint all over it... No and its blue! Oh this is great. I'm so gonna try this at the HEB Let's see how people respond

1:46:50 Just driving around, just going to the drive-thru at the bank. Hey... I wanted a positive check. Nobody thinks you're crackpot enough! Okay anyway uh i'm highly skeptical. Yeah yeah I got this breaking story I want you to tell me what the deal is because it's about sex. A nurse has just contracted Ebola in Dallas Oh, breaking news. Is that right? That's what I just what the CNN is saying to me right now i'm afraid Well they did gotta wear those uniforms Four ISIS terrorists arrested in Texas it last 36 hours oh no how could I have missed this

1:47:33 What were they doing? Judicial Watch, Islamic terrorists have entered the United States through the Mexican border and homeland security sources tell Judicial Watch that four have been apprehended in the last 36 hours by federal authorities in the Texas Department of Public Safety in McAllen and Far. This is good! Caliphate! Excellent we are rocking the caliphate in Texas everybody nice I'm not... this... Caliphate. Intelligence officials said they had picked up radio talk and chatter Indicating that the terrorist groups are trying to carry out an attack on the border. I got a tweet from someone he says you know, you guys just make fun of all this but you wait until ISIS is here You wait... you'll be talking- you wait until you're sick with Ebola This guy's actually in the show? Apparently And he believes it crap Yeah and you play down Ebola will you just wait No okay i'll wait More chance of being killed just driving to the store before I have even put my suit on

1:48:36 You just wait. You just wait! Those ISIS guys are coming, although their big push now is to take ISIS off the table and run this phony baloney Khorasan group." Do you see this really happening? That seems to be more and more of a push towards it which is strange... Yeah they want to do an event in the United States or government probably Who else? Wants to do an event and they're going to blame it on somebody. And the way things are going, they don't want to blame it on ISIS or ISIL. So they have to find somebody to blame it on. That's how they got the Khorasan group. The Khora-Khorasan operation

1:49:15 has all these elements where they say, well they've already got a plan in place. We've known fact and all these things so something's going to happen and it's going to be blamed on these guys but not ISIL because for some reason we want ISIL to keep doing what it is doing which probably has something to do with the overthrow of Assad Well, that's I think that's the overall analysis is that has to happen. But now we know we've had the F-22s were striking Syria because we saw all kinds of cool footage of it of the planes not really doing anything it just you know

1:49:52 It's just stock footage. Did you see what we sold to Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates? Another beautiful sale, two sales actually have it here we have number one because when you do this you have to apply for a permit You can't just... Here is the Arms Export Control Act 1.25 billion dollars and that includes 500 million dollars of other I love that as it so this is guided enhanced missile, Patriot flight test target Patriot as target also included PAC-3 telemetry kits. Patriot automated logistics systems what are you going to do with this? So that's 1.75 billion and then which is what a lot of this is about this which...I thought..I think I saw I didn't get a clip

1:50:43 I think Panetta said somewhere that this will be a 30-year war against ISIS. And here is to the United Arab Emirates, which now is that Dubai and those guys? Are they in UAE? Yes, Dubai. There's a bunch of them. Dubai is the main one. This is Bad Chad who always is scouring the Federal Register for us, let's see Trans-Middle 14 for notice of proposed issuance here we go high mobility artillery rocket systems launchers how much is this for? This is for 900 million dollars oh man that's cheap could have made a billion and this is 400 million of...oh! this is great it's nine hundred total

1:51:33 400 million is for major defense equipment and 500 million, the majority is for other. What do you other is? And that's a... So what do we have there? We have almost 3 billion dollars of sales could work everybody! Yay! Which is what this is about So I saw this piece, I think this was on 24 Minutes. Obviously watching that this week and there's the clip Kurdish Anger now you're talking about them blowing up that little city at the top of... Kobani which is just a reason to draw Turkey into it Well or something but one thing they're doing if you listen to these guys are they're turning their trying to make the Kurds

1:52:25 The Kurds are like part of the big piece of this puzzle and I think they're trying to get, we've already discussed this because of the oil. By the way who is big friends with the Kurds? Fetel Agulin Oh interesting. Why don't you play this and we'll get it on. The state supports the extremist Islamists by giving them weapons. The Turkish state think it can get rid of the Kurds, but they'll never defeat us. Is this what they think about us? The Kurds? They've destroyed this town." Helicopters keep watch from above while on the ground armed personnel carriers patrol the streets for much of a week

1:53:11 The security crackdown is aimed at putting a lid on the unrest. In response, the Kurdish population has changed tack. Their protests now are smaller and more mobile to avoid major confrontation. Here as night falls, a raucous din rings out echoing the Kurdish anger that's close Okay, what's your take on this? They've got it set up so the Kurds are blaming the Turks for everything. Uh-huh! There is the Gulen connection. Yeah... It's gonna be interesting to see how this plays out because we're not getting that sort of perspective in this country I know and I don't know how many Europeans are but obviously the French cause they're ones who did this report but

1:53:54 I thought that was kind of interesting. I'm thinking that...so the way I see a Kubani is, the idea is to draw the Turks in and the Turks don't want to do this and they're NATO countries then you get Article 5 and all this stuff and then a whole bunch of other things get triggered and it's been on the verge of falling for what? Two weeks now? And it's just not happening because the Turks are just not taking the bait and they're not jumping in to go do something. Once you do that, I think once they take up arms against what is happening...I think that's when all hell breaks loose. What else could it be? Well besides there's a pipeline running right through it which is minor, very minor. Everyone on CNN

1:54:40 This town has no strategic importance at all. But we've taken a couple of runs at the Turks, you know with that park where there's all the protests and it looks like that was gonna work and it didn't work... And now I think they're giving up on doing any internal stuff because we don't have the skill set for the Turks specifically or things aren't that bad that people really are upset like we could get the Ukrainians to do our bidding so we can't deal with the Turks So now I think we turned over to the Kurds And just inciting them, let them go in there or give them weapons. This would make sense that at this very moment we have this documentary coming out? Right the good yeah the blowjob documentary. Hagiography I think is what you would call it but blow job documentary works for me That's what using the media to news business see that's what its called A BJ Doc

1:55:33 It's called, you know if an article is written that just a puff piece about somebody it's commonly referred to in the business as a blowjob. Here on CNN I'm watching we have helicopters flying over the TED Live flying over the hospital in Dallas and this lower third is containing the first Ebola outbreak And because nurse has Ebola. Mickey, if you're listening could you please put on that your suit and I can take a picture and we just tweet it that You know don't worry friends and family were safe This is insane people are just being made crazy this is the number one thing That's making people crazy now yeah Yeah, I hear about it ebola The Snowden documentary was screened in New York

1:56:30 I don't know anything about this at all. Yes, Citizen Four...I have a little trailer if you want it? This is the Laura Poitras documentary and i do want to discuss some of it The main thing is this documentary was made- It's two hour documentary which I think is too long for any documentary Certainly about to see no longer than 90 minutes Right and his girlfriend is apparently living with him now Yes, the story is that she's the stripper girlfriend pole dancer who was kind of left out of the picture No one ever went to find her Nobody decided to interview because it wasn't part of the... Her friends or her family, her parents. She was living in Malibu or something and then she... Hawaii? Blue, she was reassigned Moscow by whoever's her handler and off she went And they're living in... So all of the shots all the PR shots I'll call them Snowden is wearing his glasses with the missing nose pad We know that when he's

1:57:31 But he's being looked at candidly. He does not wear his glasses when he is out in Moscow and someone gets a shot of him, it is always without his glasses This is Bran Snowden that he is propagating Here is the bit of the trailer from the movie Very cybery Laura At this stage I can offer nothing more than my word I am a senior government employee In the intelligence community I hope you understand that contacting you Is extremely high risk For now, know that every border you cross... Every purchase you make. Every call you dial. Every cell phone tower you pass. Friend you keep. Site you visit and subject line you type is in the hands of a system whose reach is unlimited but who safeguards are not In the end if you publish this source material I will likely be immediately implicated

1:58:26 I ask only that you ensure this information makes it home to the American public. Thank you and be careful citizen four. Citizen four? Hold on, hold on! Okay um...I work for uh... This is the first meeting with Grant Greenwald and Poitras in Hong Kong What is with this music?! Well it's drama ma'am It's drama. Come on, let's see the drama!

1:59:13 Sorry, I don't know anything about you. Okay um...I work for uh... Sorry i don't know who your name is. Oh sorry my name is Edward Snowden. Uh..i go by Ed. Um...Edward Joseph Snowden's the full name You're ruining it! How? That's not possible Very interesting this movie now. This was bankrolled sounds horrible Bankrolled by participant media, which is of course Jeff skull? SK OLL To be discussed in a moment executive producers two of them are the big Kahuna's at HBO and then there's Steven Soderbergh who brother why do you say this because why he's a hack explain

2:00:09 I'm just saying, look at what he's done. He does propaganda films when he does anything outside of the actual fiction Let's look at what he has done then And even with fiction i think that probably this is propaganda Well let's take a look into his... you're quite an accusation there Well maybe im wrong lets take a look Lets take a look and the way we look is ummm So the first thing he did was a full length concert for the band Yes Okay, films such as Kafka King of the Hill The Underneath Grey's Anatomy Sex Lies and Videotape Oh Aaron Brockovich Traffic What else then? Where is the hack? Aaron Brockovich That was a yeah I agree with that. The more interesting name that i found on this executive producer list was Tom... Epic Thriller Contagion Another one Oh yeah Tom Quinn Hunger Games

2:01:18 Is that also Soderbergh? Yeah. Yeah, he's a propagandist I like Tom Quinn because Tom Quinn is really known for all of the little video vignettes that they play on the Oscars for the nominees So if you look at his credits, it's the Oscar-nominated short films animation. Oscar nominated short films documentary. Oscar nominated short films live action. Oscar nominated short film animation. And so its very smart to have the guy who puts together the packages for nominees for the Academy Awards uh...to be one of the executive producers I think that can...if you get a nominee nomination then he might spice up a bit make it look better

2:02:13 Works with Clooney a lot and Matt Damon. So here's my question to you Jeff Skull Why does he get such a pass in this? Where is well We have been vilifying Pierre Omnicar DriveMyCar No, you mostly And I believe rightly so How do you spell skull S-K-O-L, S-COL. S-K-O-L-L. He... So we need to put him on our list of guys to vilify? Yes, because he was at eBay. He lives in Woodside for God's sake! eBay and PayPal so he is partners with Omidyar. And a lot of his money is still tied up in eBay slash PayPal and so you know...he should also be on the chopping block for the WikiLeaks shutdown of PayPal

2:03:12 But he now gets to be Mr. Hero and of course also did Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth, and all these other great movies So you're getting some kind of free pass where I think he's... No one has brought us... He is a low profile that is the reason I believe You have Elon Musk, Peter Thiel this guy and Mohamed Ar So there's four guys that came out of that thing and they're all going in different directions doing their own thing, in some way shape or form. But this is very close to Omidyar because Poitras works for Omidyar and he's financing the Poitras movie... Well I find the whole thing to be He has runs The Skoll Foundation which he gave even became a billionaire cause of eBay And PayPal so he gave it all himself from The Skoll Foundation as though its like some sort of donation

2:04:04 The foundation supports social entrepreneurship. Skoll chairs the foundation and today makes grants in excess of 80 million per year, the Skoll Foundation also rank as the largest foundation for social entrepreneurship in the world. 30 million to the Alliance for Climate Protection Campaign so he's a climate guy part of that group He did Inconvenient Truth. He's a big climate guy. Yeah, duh! The Producers Guild of American Visionary Award he won that in 2009 Time Magazine he got the 100 People Of The Year 2006 Wired magazine Rave award

2:04:44 National Leadership Award for the Commonwealth Club in Silicon Valley, the outstanding... This guy wins a lot of awards. Scottie Pelletti is the committee which means he gives a lot of money away. Skoll was the commencement speaker and just awarded the honorary doctorate law degrees from the University of Toronto. That's the best they can do there? Well when I look at Bram Snowden... Finance the Gandhi Project When I look at Bram Snowden who showed up on yet another You know some conference and this is like does anyone have any new ideas? It's like oh, and now we had Ed Snowden via Google hangout from Moscow And he's there saying you should use a black phone. You should reduce red circle He's telling us all these products We should be using I don't think he shouldn't be telling us what to use at all I think he should be telling us not to use anything Yeah, that would be better

2:05:40 I just got a something from our global intelligence network in on this almost like... Let me see what do we have? We have he copied the message uh in the email from the movie Star Wars. Here's the relevant clip huh What well, I'll have to look into it seems that what the message that Snowden sent to Poitras was Help Me One Kenobi Yeah Yes I gotta look into that. I love stuff like that. No, I just don't like the brand Snowden anymore It doesn't feel good. Skull was influenced by authors such as Ayn Rand Another one. Yeah He intended to become an a- By Ayn Rand

2:06:39 He intended to become an author writing motivational books on tackling the world's problems. So he was always in that mold. Now he has money, it is dangerous! And where is our Skoll Foundation grant? Well... we're kind of... The anti-Skoll Foundation grants what we need. He's like all in on all this stuff. It's worth $3.8 billion. I have a funny... That same dead eyes look that all these other guys have. Huh I have a funny Kerry climate denier clip if you want to hear that. Oh yeah, why not? It's a good one though! They're always good when it comes from Kerry... I just say to all of you here that people need to feel the pressure from YOU. You all know what politics is about This is a big climate conference. I'm not in it now

2:07:35 But I'm... What do you mean, you're not in it? He says, I'm not in politics is what he's trying to say. Alright watermelon! Dependent on it To help make the right decisions So that we move in the right direction A clean energy future Is not a fantasy Changing course and avoiding the worst impacts of climate change is NOT a fantasy And supporting healthier communities and ecosystems And driving economic growth and job creation None of that is a fantasy And for those people who still stand in the way, for those people who even still today want to try to question whether or not their science is effective or not. I just want to say... In case people wondered this program powered by science Just ask you a simple question If we're wrong about this future what's the worst that could happen us from making these choices? Oh! if he's wrong

2:08:42 What's the worst that could happen for making these choices? We waste a lot of money Bamboozle, a lot of people disturb probably people that are already unstable. There's a lot that could go wrong The worst that could happen to us is we create a whole lot of new jobs, kick our economies into gear. We have healthier people, healthier children because we have cleaner air. We live up to our environmental responsibility. We become truly energy independent and our security is stronger and greater and sustainable as a result." I'm done! I'm in!" You know when he talks about you this whole thing's about carbon dioxide it really doesn't... the air quality

2:09:25 is not hurt by carbon dioxide. It's carbon pollution, John! You're not saying it right And by the way, so I'm flying in from Los Angeles and there is...I'm looking down at the salt flats. I don't see any evidence of this rising tide. I'm looking out today and there's mudflats around here that are the same mudflats I saw 30 years ago. There didn't...I don't see any evidence of anything else going on. Dr. Manning As far as I'm concerned you have no water? Are you drinking your own urine there in California at this point? Dr. O'Reilly Yeah, well, there's water which is not much of it It's not as bad as it was some years and years ago when they had to run a pipeline across the San Rafael Bridge. I think they just did that, didn't they? Just open that up again? No there is no pipeline! They just drove across thing the other day while you're on the subject of these guys...

2:10:14 Don't you want to hear what happens if the climate deniers are wrong? Oh, I thought he was done. No... If- Alright play it- If the pro climate Play it out That's the worst that happens to us What happens if they're wrong Uh-oh, what happens if they're wrong John? What could happen? What do you think will happen?! If the climate deniers are... Climate change... Manmade climate change deniers are wrong Then WHAT!? What do YOU think? Oh! We're all doomed. If they're wrong... Catastrophe Life as you know it on Earth Ends Oh man hold on a second

2:11:07 Life as you know it on earth ends. I think we need to accompany him John and let's do a little accompaniment here Okay, I'll get ready right? Catastrophe life is you know what on earth and Seven degrees increase Fahrenheit and we can't sustain crops water life under those circumstances no life No life. We're gonna die We will die. We're all gonna die! Yeah, I don't want to always have me ask the question here for them... Hey if we're wrong does life stop as we know it? Yeah yeah yeah Are we all gonna die? Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I love that guy he's my favorite guy in the world I'm gonna show myself old by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah they'd be fab On no agenda morning

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2:12:47 It actually should add up to $201.01, oh I see he's combining two so he should have gotten an associate executive producer for 660. sorry samuel but uh... it was kind of convoluted and then we had a birthday call out i have to read this i guess is aiming is just artsy in the head or flexible it could be that is being beautiful hands long lady fingers not well suited to shaking brown people with a k bar produce beautiful art What are we talking about here? No idea. Okay, the last two times my brother donated you got all excited about his gorgeous Archie's signature and handwriting that was me yeah today is birthday so I appreciate you saying more nice things about him despite the fact that Tom's an engineer in a marine he is in fact a gifted artist

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2:17:10 Sir Dennis Nutting in Hilo, Hawaii and he sent a long note. Well not really just a bunch of accounting under some photos Oh He sent me a picture of the hila currently Hilo Airport as I talked about this yes You did you have a beautiful outdoor? Baggage claim place in the place with that the airport was quaint because it would be kind of an old But well-maintained place like Long Beach now It's another but looks like Orlando horrible That's what I think Uh, needs some job karma and he is nice. We'll roll that at the end. No give him some, he's a knight. Okay hold on I have to open up the uh...the karma bucket Jobs! Jobs! Jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! You've got karma Alright, now i feel depressed

2:18:06 Oh, I haven't been to the Hilo for forever. It's a cockroach... by the way that is the big island? That is the big giant island of Hawaii and it is cockroach infested! Oh that's no good In fact we rented a car and the car was filled with cockroaches And so when we got out of the car to check the car We took all our stuff out driving around and I said Mimi you better Dump your purse out because yeah, I know that don't worry about it. I said no you better dump it out I bet you there's cockroaches in there and she dumps her purse out about 30 cockroaches ran out Is that is that an actual impersonation of a voice? That's just a sting me. Yeah, well, that's the best I can do I can't do women's voices that well yeah for this one I sound like Mickey Mouse when I do that voice mm-hmm

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2:20:19 Jakub Wojciak in North Vancouver, BC. I think I got that close Antonio McMullen $50 parts unknown Paul Vela in Milton Keynes UK 50 always count on Paul Sir Mark Tanner and is he sir Paul Vella? I believe so yeah Sir Mark Tanner Whittier California and finally Jason Deluzio I want to thank these folks and everybody who contributed. Folks, you know... I wanted to read one little email. I want also thank everyone who contributed to lesser amounts in the... So we got an email from Neil. He says for what it's worth, I'm now on the $5 a month program. It is truly about the least I could do. And I think he means the best he could do but okay.

2:21:13 Of course, I wanted to make some grand gesture and dreamed of the day where i could be an instant night or at least associate executive producer have you read my clever note on the show and play seven jingles however it slowly dawned on me that those are the things that I want not the things that you need I've been listening since about episode 80, when it was trivial to go back and listen to the archives and have yet to give a dime. I am ashamed of that." Value for value even though i'm not sure at this point if I could ever adequately compensate the both of you for all the value you've given me using that as an excuse never donate seems really stupid thank you for your courage but more importantly thank you for my courage! And we do

2:21:52 That's what a lot of $5 donors, all of it is really highly appreciated. Well let me read one note too which is from Chris Perry and this was I don't know what happened to this donation but he thinks anonymously that it came through $200 so he was an associate executive producer for show 659 He says he added a short note about Carmen to get somewhere else find a job in California I was stooped retroactively, however as i was terminated from my job yesterday afternoon. I was thrown under the bus by my boss's boss to appease a noisy client and my boss decided that he couldn't justify having me work there The funny part is that I was a CIS admin engineer but the work they

2:22:38 they terminated me for was entirely not related to systems administration. Sorry I had to run, take care don't let the drought in California Texas choke you." Chris... I'm still dying from Fukushima so yeah we'll add him to the job karma at the end here that were gonna get to. Fukushima! Aren't you worried about Ebola? No, man. I'm almost dead from Fukushima radiation. Why would I worry?" The radioactive trash is hitting the shores! Alright everybody thank you very much for your consideration for the Value For Value model that makes this program continue on for almost seven years. The 26th of October is our big

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2:24:09 So we have Sir Thomas Nussbaum. who is going to be the Baron of the Hampton Roads. We have Sir Mark Workman, who becomes a baronet and you said he could... Is that the... Are we giving him his protector? Is that what he's getting now? Yeah might as well it's in advance I mean he's gonna put in here and he's and you it was the Baronet of Galtz Gulch yeah Galtz Gulch I don't know if he has

2:25:03 battle with somebody. I thought that was given away." I don't know if somebody's...if we have a dispute, we'll resolve it in the peerage committee meets once a month under arbitration yes and then we have a black knighting this does not happen often but we thanked him profusely for his contributions on Thursday show and somehow he did not show up in the nighting, so he becomes a black knight. Sir HMFIC, the head mofo in charge thought it was quite appropriate that he will become a black knight since he was the one you recall burned his entire face and hands and was cured

2:25:47 Apparently within weeks and so we're very, very happy for him. So he has a special request for what he wants present at the round table which I've written down. We'll just grab our blades here and we'll ask you HMFIC head Morpho in charge please step down sir! You are welcome to the round table of Knights in Vain And you are a Black Knight so you got the black armor and we hear by pronounce thee Sir HMFIC Black Knight of U.S Army And we have for you... Hookers and Blow, Red Boys and Chardonnay, Whiskey & Wet Wipes. And as you requested... Heartlets and Halball! Oh yes! Along with your wenches in beer, vodka, vanilla bong hits, bourbon sparkling cider nesquirts, and of course the mutton and meat. Go to noagendonation.com slash rings and pick up your ring. Thank you very much for your courage, for your consideration, for our value, just being a knight and for being patient

2:26:46 It is highly indeed. Well, we were playing talking about all the PayPal billionaires that came out of that operation I've got this clip of a From France 24 where they have they're talking to a Tesla guy and I thought you'd be interested in hearing this Okay, hold on a second Yes, the clip doesn't actually say Tesla guy interestingly enough a full range of increasingly affordable electric sports cars today I'm joined by Jerome Guillen vice president or worldwide sales and services. Thank you so much for joining us today Thank you for joining us Thank you for joining. I am part of the Tesla board. Yes, thank you for joining us. I love it when someone says it's good to have you here? Yes, It is good to be here. Good to have you here. Be here. Well, thank you, Brolf. Oh yes. Thank you for having me. Just a good thank you and it was good to have you here. What and what was the, it was about their new D there now? I don't know who cares

2:27:48 I think it was about their batteries, whatever the case. They do have a clip i want to play which is the...I heard this normally don't listen to that show on RT that has the financial guy Max, Max Kaiser? Good old Max. So I got this clip on the Scottish poll text and said, eh... so i looked it up everything they say in this clip is accurate and its I should have sent a link for the show notes but apparently they're looking you know they made everyone's In Scotland vote on whether they're going to be independent or not, now they're gonna ding them for the back taxes. Reality is trading at a discount! Now of course we came close to a bloodless revolution here in the United Kingdom with a Scottish referendum and of course they chose to stay dependent on the United Kingdom, on Westminster anyway. Poll tax returns from dead to haunt Scottish politics so all those people

2:28:47 people who registered to vote, all those new registrants to vote in Scotland put their name on the poll registers. Record amount something like 92% of the population that could vote chose to vote and what are they um what is Westminster? What are they...what is the political elite doing for even daring to suggest there could be change for daring those 45 percent of the population that had the courage to want change, well they're threatening to bring back the fines. There's 450 million pounds worth of unpaid poll tax from the Margaret Thatcher era in 89-90 and 91 up in Scotland Well that's what they're being threatened now. There is retribution for having the temerity to want independence They are not going to give them more devolution power

2:29:35 for William Wallace was first he was gutted, he was disemboweled and then his legs and arms torn apart. And then he was hung and his head put on a pike so there you have it that's what happened to them this is what happens when you fail to have enough courage. Good little story I'm just looking at CNN now the lower third is

2:30:18 first time Ebola transmitted in the United States. I don't have the sound, but I can see the woman who's reading the prompter and she has like this sad look in her eyes. Ebola. What about our Ebola theme song? The song, Ebola... We have it! I just didn't want to you know, I didn't want to overdo it and we certainly have it all he got is the ebola no we have the ebola recola we've got that one in Euroland similar news This the Catalan independence referendum is coming up. I believe at the end of this month Yeah, and now this is not officially sanctioned by the government right kind of a protest

2:31:09 It's a created situation that is not like the one in Scotland where it supposedly would have actually taken place. Well FC Barcelona has now signed, they could get thrown out of the league for this but they all signed supporting the Catalan independence which is that's a big deal when the soccer team says yeah we should and now I just read this today. Catalan independence could include Valencia and, how do you pronounce it? The Balearics that's the islands so that's Ibiza and all those islands and Formentera and all those beautiful islands there...and they want to include those in their independent Catalon state i guess. Good! And how will this work?! It won't

2:32:01 But if everyone votes yes, it's kind of like Crimea isn't it? Well yeah but who comes running in I mean with the Crimea thing. Yeah okay they're all gonna vote yes and the Russians will go... The Russians are coming to say here is Vladimir! Hey everybody we're ready for you come on in! Come on! Is Vladimir partying in Ibiza He'd go for that Shit I would go for it You were just there recently weren't ya No Didn't you go there recently? No. I thought you were gonna go there. We talked about it, but there is no place that you can get decent internet. Oh, you couldn't get a good connection. Everybody had... Yes! we have internet and 3G. Okay uh that's not going to work That's interesting The president weighed in on net neutrality and i saw a clip with some analysis from Chunk over at the Young Turks show

2:33:01 And if you look at the ChunkChunk show on YouTube, they have this... now he does a Squarespace commercial before the actual bit. It's sad! I think there must be bleeding money. Who can make a website for me? And everyone is like, I'm not gonna do it, Chunk, make your own and then he goes to Squarespace and is like oh, I made a good website okay Thank You Internet! It's just stupid They played this clip of the president on net neutrality. We need to pull this apart for a number of reasons, and I would say number one is because we're getting very close to some decision-making here by the FCC and i also received another email and it was almost as if holy moly we predicted it... This is the FFTF people

2:33:51 It's Tiffany from FFTF, the fight for the future of the technology future or whatever it is. What's his outfit called? I can't remember... some dumb operation Yeah but it's funded you know? Funded by Gus. Let's look it up And what is all about? Hello mouse! Do you have a mouse? Yeah, a kind of mouse that hooks to the computer That never catch on Hey, just want to make sure you saw this email. There's good news thanks in part to the response we helped generate the FCC has extended the deadline to receive comments about the Comcast attempted internet takeover

2:34:42 Now it's Comcast attempted internet takeover until October 29th. I didn't know that Comcast was attempting to take over the Internet? There are just a few days left to stop Comcast from taking over Time Warner Cable and signing a death sentence for net neutrality! Click here to take action now, which is a donate button. Yeah give them money that's right isn't that what it is? Click here to take action taking action means give them money this one really requires no explanation the most hated company in the US Is trying to take over the second most hated company in the u.s Let me say I don't know if these are the most hated companies in the us I can think of a couple I'm not too fond of well read the list

2:35:28 Well, there's no list. Number one is Comcast and number two is Time Warner that's what she's saying. Those are the most hated companies in the US? I think AT&T would top either one of those! How about... Yeah a lot kinds of possibilities. A lot of companies you can throw it okay um let me continue here In a move that would raise our cable and internet bills stifle online free speech and make them one of the most powerful lobbies in history. This merger is bad for everyone! And there's tons of opposition, even from within the FCC We have a real chance at stopping this but we have to act quickly Quickly The deadline is next week Click here to stop Comcast in its tracks That's another donate button

2:36:21 Comcast is already the largest and most powerful opponent of net neutrality, online privacy and internet freedom! Not my internet freedom. They've been caught several times abusing their gatekeeper power as an internet provider to further their own interests. If this... Go on. Please talk I'm gonna say these guys are looking at their website The FFTF. Help cut $40, donate... They have all these shotgun projects! They're all over the place. Battle for the Net. Reset the net? That's them. Occupy the FCC? That's them. We crammed in tents on the FCC doorstep for nine days and changed the game for net neutrality. You did really change the game but then what are we worried about?!

2:37:06 Fast track is obsolete technology. Stop fast track for the TPP, net neutrality and help us save. Stephen Colbert boycott caught the RSA The NSA video, behind that. We'll stop SOPA again! Call for freedom! Stop watching us! It's another project of theirs... These guys are all up there they're funded. Barry Brown what did I don't even know about this one? They have 20 000 demanding freedom for a journalist who faces 105 years for sharing a link Oh, this I gotta see. All right let me... Five years now. Stay with the program for one second we need to just explain very briefly that any type of regulation any okay is not desired you do not want anything called net neutrality and when you hear our president's understanding of it it will become abundantly clear to you that we are hosed he has no clue what he's talking about

2:38:11 And every single rule proposal we have read verbatim on this program includes the language, ISPs will block unlawful content and unlawful network traffic. This will include bullying, this will include peer-to-peer, this will include hate speech... No agenda? Yeah! It will be blocked. Now, it's not...it's okay because I believe you cannot really You can't shut off the networks unless you're physically coming in and cutting the cable line to people's houses There are all kinds of ways around this but This will be the result and this is what they've all wanted And outfits like Tiffany Hey! Tiffany from Fight for The Future Are duping you! Now listen to your president

2:39:07 Who even contradicts himself, it's almost like the series of tubes this guy. On net neutrality I made a commitment very early on that... ...I am unequivocally committed to net neutrality. What do you think he means by net neutrality? I don't know. Everybody's equal, like equal pay and everything is equal. Fair! No losers all winners everybody wins everybody gets the same everybody's equal the same hug and share a secret i think that it is what has unleashed

2:39:54 The no agenda show the power of the internet and we don't want to lose that Or clog up the pipes. We don't want to clog up the pipes If you had net neutrality You are actually going to clog up the pipes you need to manage network traffic with different packet prioritization Am I not hearing him correctly? He's gonna clog up the pipe. When you have, if you don't have net neutrality, you're going to clog up. You understand what i'm saying? It's like a toilet bowl

2:40:44 If it's not used by both the women and the men, you put this down for the women. You leave it down because that is what they want? And if you don't do that then you don't have net neutrality and then this thing gets clogged up down at them to have to drill out with a roto-rooter." This guy should be vilified for talking like Ted Stevens! This is not a pipe... Thank you John. It's not drainage. It's not a sewer well Our show is kind of going through the sewer. But it's not how it works, this is not how it works! It's not a garden hose, it's not a freeway, it's not a highway, it's not a fast lane, it's not a slow lane... You need packet prioritization for any of this stuff to work and it is going on all the time so saying that net neutrality will stop clogging up the pipes is stupid and incorrect

2:41:40 the power of The internet and we don't want to lose that Clog up the pipes oh god, and as Stephen was ridiculed forever But talking about the tubes and the pipe says not a truck And all the rest of it in meanwhile Chris this guy gets a pass so then it's like 10 years later You're thinking no more. This is why I bring up chink chunk Because there I was like, well it's a great speech. Wow. Yeah he's all... I hope he says yeah oh yeah it's a great speech this is one of the best speeches ever. It's all in with Obama uh the pipes and so

2:42:25 You could hear, what the fuck did I just say? You should pull that a little bit out. A lot of aspects to net neutrality... Yeah! One of the things people are most concerned about is paid prioritization. Oh, I'm so concerned about paid prioritization No People want their Netflix not to buffer and they will pay for it And it's not prioritization It is paid peering, it is private peering arrangements which should be completely private and agreeable for what people want. Which is Facebook and Netflix. People don't want anything else stupid morons but okay so people are worried about paid prioritization you know what I'm talking about? I wonder if you asked 100 people on the street just a direct question are you worried about paid prioritization

2:43:19 What would they say? I think 100 people would not know what that's about. But if you said, are you worried about net neutrality? They would all say oh yeah! Oh man we gotta have net neutrality! You're gonna get screwed with your net neutrality man... You are going to get screwed with your net neutrality with your unlawful content laws and regulations, unlawful network traffic laws and regulations And who is going to determine this the FCC So the FCC is gonna get its way which it has always wanted to do Which is take control of both cable networks Because the broadcasting thing is dead. It's over, I mean at some point it has got a limited life left and there is a Federal Communications Commission about communications and they want to get hold of something else to do so they can regulate us so you can't show a tit without being fined because you need to get some money in the coffers. Or you can say fuck? You can cuss

2:44:10 And you can't do this, you can't do that. You have to get a license to be a podcaster or blogger." No hate speech about women? No hate speech no bullying... No name-calling? That's bullying! Now what do you um I'm trying to think how i should uh how i should present this to you for what he's about to say now we just listen to it the notion that somehow I'll ask the question anyway Is he powerful, our president? Can he call someone and say here's what I want you to do. Yes, he could actually call the President of Mexico and tell him to release that Marine that is in jail down there but he won't do it. So yes its powerful Could he call the FCC and say dude here's what I want you to do

2:44:57 Yeah. Is that within his realm of...is that within his, um, with this injury? It's not part of his job necessarily but he is powerful enough to do that and now does he appoint this man? Does he appoint the chairman of the FCC? Yes I believe it was appointed by the executive branch So when people, and i'm looking at you Leo When people say we had a lobbyist, the head of the lobbyists, now the head of the FCC, it is actually the president who were appointed him correct I'm thinking yes. President Obama... While you're playing the clip, look at the head of the FCC but i'm pretty sure it's executive branch Which is Tom Wheeler I believe Yeah And I'm pretty sure that president Obama... Well let's hear from the president himself

2:45:42 Folks can pay a little more money. What for? Oh, you mean like Netflix folks can pay a little bit more money better service more exclusive access to customers The FCC is directed by five commissioners appointed by the President of the United States the president not confirmed by the US Senate He just said, some people are concerned that some folks which can be Republicans. Folks can be terrorists. Folks who'd be students we heard him use folks can sometimes we've been addressed as folks but some folks can pay a little bit more money for direct access to the customers now this is very telling at how he views net neutrality

2:46:27 He views it completely from the cable network standpoint. He does not at all give a rat's ass about anyone who is an independent producer just trying to make connections with people globally through this global network, he only thinks in supply of content and customers on the other end which is insulting to the American people, American entrepreneurs to content creators, to anybody who uses this very unique opportunity we have in our lifetime which he is now personally trying to limit by pushing for net neutrality because he believes it's a supply of content that we should be happy to have from Hollywood and there's nothing at all about the equality of just connecting and this free flow of ideas and speech

2:47:19 But does Chunk talk about that? No. ...and get better service, more exclusive access to customers through the internet That's something I'm opposed to...I was opposed to it when I ran and continue to be opposed to it now Now the FCC is an independent agency They came out with some preliminary rules that think the net roots and a lot of folks in favor of net neutrality were concerned with Net roots This is a very old term, interesting. Yeah that's a good one. Netroots... Now netroots are the people who got Howard Dean initially I think on the ballot and then of course the same netroots got him off but it also includes you know some of the democrat leading organizations that yeah i think pretty much anybody who does any lobbying online is considered to be netroots but it's kind of an old term it's kind of a mid-2000s term

2:48:18 My appointee, Tom Wheeler knows my position. I can't now that it's now that he's there... ...I can't just call him up and tell him exactly what to do." Yeah you can! Bullcrap! What to do? What to do?! I can't tell them what to do?? Yes you can!! YES YOU CAN!!! You've got a pen, you've got a phone is what he's been telling us. Call him up and tell him, I got a pen, I got a phone, i can do this, I can do that now you won't do anything the guy that he appointed... I put them in there? I can't tell them what to do well then either you have no power or it's a crappy candidate you put in which one is it? Now that he's there I can't just call him up and tell him exactly what to do but today what I've been clear about what the White House has been clear about is is that we expect whatever final rules to emerge

2:49:14 to make sure that we're not creating two or three or four tiers. Two, or three? Or why not 50 tiers? Why not? What's wrong with your tiers? We don't want it! We don't want tiers there are already tiers. It is called Tier Service you get see you pay more for business accounts yeah well we can have that now I don't know, sounds like it. It's just like the Vonnegut story where instead of everybody having great access people have fast access so i have 200 megabits per second and going to get penalized or have a limiter put on because then I'll have more access than you and they will poke one eye out so that we see the same. Okay, I think we made our point here. Internet what? That's it two tiers of internet

2:50:10 I'm sorry. It's gonna lead to the following. I have a clip this would if this is the future of tech reporting Do we not have to admit? This is a clip from four years ago. We need the Tech News jingle or are we okay? Yeah, let's play the Tech News jingle That means I have to go look for it Oh and you don't complain then I haven't I haven't had a Tech News jingle and then we have Tech News My phone The way I see it, the only good phone is a landline and the phone should be made out of Bakelite.

2:50:49 They're varied, you know from classic dungeons. We try to present ourselves as a dungeon crawl there's lots of dungeons but outdoor areas like you're seeing in this demo and wilderness areas and towns as well. I'll show the engine can render them beautifully including that guys are taking advantage of it The game looks incredible Very excited Haunted the Demon's Forge when do we get to play it? When do I get it? When do I convince my friends to buy it? We're shipping first quarter next year Sounds good thank you so much for coming by What was this? What did I miss? It was from four years ago. And did that game ever come out? I don't care! iPhone schmife-o! That's our tech news everybody, hope you enjoyed that... I do have one last little bit of annoyance that i need to get out and this is regarding Haiti. I'm sorry it always happens we missed something we missed

2:51:47 This Laurent Lamothe, the Prime Minister of Haiti. We missed his appointment... we missed this whole thing! Man you're the Haiti guy I know You're supposed to be dogging Haiti TMZ had a little piece on this guy and the headline was yeah my girlfriend's a supermodel and i'm damn proud of it well let me look at who is this guy This is Laurent Lamothe. He is the Prime Minister of Haiti now, you know the president the elected president forced on us by the Clintons Of course is a sweet Mickey Martelli and And so his friend who runs the cell network there in in Haiti big big Selma if you look this guy up It's very interesting Laurent Lamoth let me just tell you a little bit about him young guy born in 72

2:52:45 and he was the co-founder and CEO of the Global Voice Group. That's a very big, I think they do pretty much Caribbean exclusive but they obviously provide everything to Haiti you know i think they've got the deal with the microfinance etc., And um... He was appointed initially as a special advisor to his friend uh President sweet Mickey Martelli in order to achieve, you know less of a conflict. You have to have less conflict of interest as being an actual politician and then in 2011 he and Bill Clinton co-chaired the Presidential Advisory Committee for the Economic Development and Investment in Haiti. This is all those billions of dollars well went into his cell network as far as I can tell

2:53:37 And then he was the foreign minister, but then he became the prime minister after the current Prime Minister Gary Coneal resigned. This is 2012 and so it's the prime minister by appointment not by vote and his girlfriend is Petra Namakovic I think that's how you pronounce it Now you'll remember her stunningly beautiful She was the supermodel who was caught in the tsunami and her fiancé, a photographer, was swept away. And she managed to hold on to a palm tree and she got hurt and he died... A horrible story! She was then with Sean Penn for awhile and now she's with this guy. That's why Sean Penn was hanging out in Haiti for so long He was like in Haiti all the time

2:54:37 And she, so she's and I really think her heart is in the right place. She has the happy what does it call? The Happy Happy Foundation hold on a second something like that it's called the Happy Hearts Fund and...I think we brought it up briefly on the show but the Happy Hearts Fund gave a big award to Bill Clinton in New York for all of his great work for Haiti And I just want to remind you... I think there's a picture of what I just sent you. Yeah, yeah, I have the picture And I just want to remind you that when this happened, we had three presidents all sitting down and asking for the following. We just need cash! I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water... Just send your cash. So this guy is rolling large. Everyone's at this party and it's his... Good party But he also comes in and speaks with

2:55:37 with our Secretary of State, Kerry. And they do the little clippity-clop move and the guy's tiny by the way next to Kerry which is kind of funny you know he was a big man his girlfriend must be a head taller than him that's why they're not in pictures it's just uh baby you go stand next to Bill I don't want to be in the picture And as I was listening, all of a sudden it's like oh my god they're about to screw this country royally. Even more than it is now we know that um of the 500 000 people who were in tents you know with the United Nations...the blue helmets brought in cholera people are dying but what's happening is they're just ignoring everything there they are pushing people into the neighboring-I have the name of it here-it is really quite sad

2:56:22 While they're building all these huge hotels and turning it into this super luxurious destination, really. Hundreds of thousands of people are being pushed in their tents into the desert kind of neighboring desert out of Port-au-Prince And now let's listen to this guy, and the problem is they have an election coming up at the end of this month. But there are people inside the government of Haiti who've been elected who will have nothing of it. They don't have the electoral rules that everyone decided on when they went to vote. They had been changed

2:57:02 by the administration to read differently. And the senators said, we're not voting on this is bull crap you're trying to screw us so that you can screw the people of Haiti but this is how it works when you in with the Atlanticists and globalist like Harry here they are together. I'm very happy to welcome the Prime Minister of Haiti Laurent Lallotte here to Washington And in doing so, I welcome a good friend. A good partner. In major efforts to meet the challenges of Haiti which are significant because it's a devastating earthquake and some of the needs to push for political reform. Political reform you say? Sounds like freedom is coming your way Haiti!

2:57:54 The government has worked hard and we have worked hard the international community is worth part to steal the money To make a difference to the lives of people in Haiti Do you remember the big benefit concert that Clooney put on? Oh yeah, we all remember. And we have a deep interest in the United States and helping to continue down this road of both democracy and economic growth and development It's so disgusting to hear these people talk like this while people are dying intense There is work to be done particularly as we know there is the challenge of completing the task of having local

2:58:43 and legislative elections as soon as possible, being able to set the date and hold those elections to complete the task of Haiti's transition. Transition to what? When did this happen? When do we need a transition these people need houses. They need a roof and water and no cholera. That's the problem I'm sorry they didn't kill them off yet that way as soon as they get the population reduced down to something reasonable easy to manage their in to fix things well they're very close, you'll hear this from the Prime Minister Unfortunately that is being blocked now politically by Republicans

2:59:22 I spoke with President Martelly just the other day about this, and we intend to try to work very closely to move forward. This resistance – the unwillingness to allow people to be able to have this vote really challenges the overall growth and development progress of the country. It's just mind-boggling to me that there is a group of elected leaders in Haiti who are saying, it's written everywhere you can read it in all kinds of publication, that are being screwed and saying we're not going to let these elections happen under these rules because it is...we're being duped. And here's this asshole Kerry saying oh yeah maybe we should go and arrest these people I'm just waiting for that to happen you're blocking progress It is mind-boggling that no one says anything about this You need a fully functioning government

3:00:23 The president has been working very hard, the prime minister working very very hard to pull people together to make this happen. Where did Kerry give this boring speech? At the State Department with a guy named... there's about guys that speak and you'll hear what he has to say He was one of those that are there together and he came in to get 25 billion in IMF loans. That's why he is in Washington with Fifi, Fifi Lagarde. This is just... We'll talk about that today and we have very high hopes that we can make progress with respect to that, because that will facilitate our ability to build big buildings. To continue the progress and complete the task of helping the people in Haiti have the day-to-day lives they deserve and want which we want for them. So Mr Prime Minister, welcome! I wanna thank Secretary Kerry for having us today it's a great pleasure and honor to be here It is my second visit I used to be foreign minister here

3:01:27 So I'm very, very happy to be able to discuss Haiti's progress. We came a long way after devastating earthquake that took away 250,000 lives 500,000 people were wounded the country had 14 billion dollars in damages and 50% of the population of Port-au-Prince was homeless That's the situation we found. Today, 98% of that population has been relocated." Relocated? 98% of the population has been relocated! Yes! How long is this clip?! I'm sorry... it's important to me Well i know but you could have cut it down a little bit. It's a third of what it was

3:02:15 All right, well if you're bored it's okay. I'm just saying when i have a two-minute clip you always give me grief about but this clip is going on forever! I think the point has been made Well no...I don't think so. I think the numbers are important So he's saying 98% have been relocated of 2 million people in Port-au-Prince that still leaves 2%. That 40 000 people are still intense pooping their guts out in the city itself Doesn't deny the relocated people can they be intense? They ARE intense Well everybody's intense But they've been relocated. Wordage, they've been relocated that doesn't mean anything it means that they were screwed yes all right well yeah it's just me never mind we don't have to listen to it this fine I'm just saying you guys think the point is made these days You said this four times now The point has made your clips are too long okay alright

3:03:07 do clips, you cut me off at about a minute and you're quite the opposite. If you go listen to the last 10 shows I've said this is actually the place where it's okay to play along clip You've had three minute clips, you've had five minute clips and we've let them play out entirely so fine. Fine. Fine. Those clips in so you could come on. It's fine. It's fine. That's fine. Okay I know we get orked at each other for this, but you all will cut me off. But instead of saying how long is this clip? Just say OK, I get the point and done. It's different trying to say that but then you won't listen to me. No, you didn't say that. You said how long if it's clear where was his boring speech? Oh, I think if you listen a little earlier, I was trying to get this shortened up

3:03:51 I just think they're too long, these clips you have today. You're on a long clip day! It's fine if you think it's important but i don't see or hear anything in that Kerry thing we could have cut that right off. Kerry is boring he said nothing and then this other guy doesn't say anything because you already told us what we need to know I think we were right on the money with the whole thing, but i don't see that there's any backup in these clips. It was just a guy blah da da da da... I just didn't think the clips were positive they didn't help your point! There weren't good clips sorry. And it wasn't only that one, this other stuff here and Carrie. You know? I can only put up with so much of that guy. Okay you didn't complain about the three minute global warming clip. That was funny.

3:04:35 Well, it was like... yeah. I don't know. The global warming thing is different because it led to a punchline You got your two minute Scottish poll tax clip which you could have said they're going to get screwed over potters and scolds It's fine! Not everyone has listened to every single show like we have There are new people who have no idea what's going on in Haiti People forget these things. Well, that's just true when you have you when you have the Secretary of State standing there and saying

3:05:13 transition is being blocked in Haiti, it is disgusting. These two are people! It is disgusting that no one is saying hey asswipe where did all the money go that Clinton stole you guys are partying up in New York with supermodel girlfriends screw you douchebags and its real people and you can fly three hours and be there At the Clinton Hotel. By the way, since you mentioned her as probably a good person I would recommend reading her wiki page and you tell me she's not a spy for somebody Really? No seriously Well let's take a look She speaks like 20 languages she has been everywhere She has all of the earmarks of some sort of...I don't know who Let's see

3:06:02 She speaks Czech, Slovak, Polish, English. Well she's from Czechoslovakia you get to speak a couple languages when you're growing up. Okay I'll slide down but Slovak, Polish, English French Italian. She was engaged the English actor Jamie Bellman or whoever that is and that ended and then she's here she's in the tsunami she's over she's lived everywhere it just I mean you read this and tell me that she's not a spy Knowing the day. I don't think no, I don't think she's a spy. I think she's very I'm She's probably just know I don't think so. I think he's probably a very sweet girl And she's been in certain circles. She does not know any different this has been her life from very early on You know Her foundation is selling show par necklaces for $1500 of which 17% goes to the charity honor on the charities website Which I find to be sketchy

3:07:01 I don't know. No, I don't- I don't know that but she's you think she's a spy? I don't think so. Take it read the whole thing when you have the chance and maybe I'm wrong She's in a presidential model You know, she's an executive. I know what you're thinking But yeah, that's why am thinking MK ultra of anything look at her. Come on. She's a privileged girl She's privileged. 35 she's been everywhere, she's a bit short 510 that's not really tall enough for well for supermodel status. Hmm hmm yeah but I don't like the picture on her wiki no if you just go to images you get some really good pictures of her it looks a little uh using sports illustrated swimsuit model too which is always a plus yep choosing the Miss Universe competition in Quito Ecuador

3:07:59 But there's you in Miss Universe competition. Who is she representing? Must have been Czechoslovakia How about Haiti? Why not Peter's currently signing yeah, I'm very happy. I'm dating Laurent Lamothe Yeah, that's the other thing why would she date this guy well look at him he so beautiful I'm sorry He has money because he has money. I'll just say it She's got a she's shallow and she's shallow that's what I'll say. I'll just think she's keeping an eye on him Well, she was keeping an eye on Sean Penn. Somebody's got to! Yeah maybe... well could be if you take the Haiti thing into consideration you may be right You maybe right Of course this three million dollars I have the 990 A lot of travel spending a couple hundred thousand dollars on travel

3:08:55 Traveling everywhere fine. All right all right Let's summarize the Haitians are being screwed and now they're gonna be screwed more well I know, I think what is happening is the Senators, because that was in the clip it was coming up but we're never going to hear that again. The senators in Haiti for 200 days have been blocking this election which is supposed to happen on the 26th they've been blocking it because the electoral rules were changed the ones they all voted on and are saying we're not going to approve this and I think someone will have to die something bad is going to happen and you're hearing he's going to Kerry saying hey Kerry

3:09:34 We have to get this approved because otherwise we can't really move the last 2% or whatever it is into the tents and you know bulldoze over them or whatever they're going to do. So go look at pictures of Haiti, they're building high-rises condos It's gonna be a beautiful resort They've just steamrolled these people away I just have compassion for it. Never been there, anyone from Haiti...I have compassion for this! It pisses me off!" Yeah well you're the one tracking it. It's never been a scam since the earthquake happened and then give us your money and then it all ended up in The Clinton Foundation? We've discussed this quite a bit on the show for people that are new to the show That's kind of what I meant is a little background for people but alright

3:10:27 All right, I'll take it. You're right It was it was too long you're right, but just say the clips too long don't give me this whole thing's too long Gary stinks I know what? What I don't like is when you say you've made your point that's like that's rude Well, he did make your point to you Yeah, well, I'm the guy that's listening Okay, well a good point there Alright, you got any clips then to end it up? No I'm good. I'm gonna put my clips off. I did have some stuff i wanted to do from the last show but I didn't put them on this clip Yeah here play this monkey given the right to vote This is the dumbest story of the week.

3:11:27 Wow, okay Bill what is legal personhood for the law? Well legal person who's basically being qualified under the law as a person so that you can avail yourself of some of its protections like habeas corpus which is what they're trying to do here. To say that... But human beings! Yes well it has to be a stretch of the law and of the word person there's no question about it but if you look at science and technology and our knowledge of animals and what they know etc this is getting close to know The DNA and certain makeup of chimpanzees are the same as humans, and that's where the analysis starts. With all due respect Bill or should I call you Dr. Zayas? This is monkey business at its height A person is not a monkey, a monkey is not a person pure and simple. And in your courts have done- A chimpanzee is also not a monkey by the way They dealt with this, they've dealt with it in divorce cases where people fighting over Fido

3:12:15 They want Fido. Both of them do, and the court says it's a chattel. In other words, it's something you own. We may love our dogs and I certainly do mine but it's something you own. It's a piece of personal property." No, you don't! That's not true. You're not...you're a caregiver. Yeah, you're a caregiver. Guardian. Thank you. You're not allowed to own a pet? Well that's only in certain states What's the most convincing argument that these animal activists have? Because, Tim, I gotta... You know this is crazy to me. They're human beings and then there's everything else. Anyway you summarize what's the point now what it is that this is a dumb piece of crap story that came up on Fox and it's never gonna work and they found two guys who talk about one guy took the one side of being monkey should be given citizenship in the other one didn't thought the other side which is the way works on these shows if I want

3:13:08 If it was me, I'd be glad to argue for the monkey just to get on some air time. Wow! But anyway... We cut the Haiti clip short for that. Yeah yeah well at least i stopped it after two minutes of it Well I could have stopped it sooner The only thing I do want to mention is that next week this coming week regulators from the United States and United Kingdom will get together in a war room to see, and I'll tell you who's getting together. Treasury Secretary Jack Lew, George Osborne the UK Chancellor of the Exchequer which is the Treasury Secretary along with Federal Reserve Chairwoman Janet Yellen and Bank of England Governor Mark Carney they're going to do a simulation of what would happen if a large bank failed? And i'm only bringing this up because

3:14:04 Sometimes when they do these drills, you know weird things happen and I said weird but yeah weird thing. Let's hope it's the Bank of America You know like 9-11 was a simulation 7-7 was a simulation There's always these drills and tests going on when crazy things happen We need to be aware of that Well maybe that's what is oh, you know what? It could be what Oh cyber attack by ice not by Iso but by the core horizon group yeah of a bank nice well we'll be ready for getting to they would be getting primed for cyber cyber cyber cyber to an extreme and then we can dump the money into this stuff that you know these various who's that one guy there so with XCIA guys always Bob bear about don't have Bob bear the other guy the Bolton

3:15:04 What's his name? It's not Gates. Some other guy, would you- we talked about him a lot. Oh no... If I said his name oh yeah that guy he's always He's been scheming to be the head of cyber for awhile. He has written a couple books What's the matter honey are you not feeling well? Is it John's fault? Yes She has Ebola Noro is going around again Which looks like Ebola So you don't know who that guy is? I'll think of it later. Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's uh... I dunno what... well there's... the tide is out! I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Thursday right here

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