Episode 659 · Wednesday, 15 October 2014

Mirific!

Neoconservative think tanks successfully rebrand American interventionism as the Gates Foundation faces a legal firestorm over vaccine trials and intelligence agencies infiltrate global newsrooms.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 659

About this episode

The Foreign Policy Initiative and neoconservative architects Bill Kristol and Robert Kagan have successfully injected the "indispensable nation" doctrine into the Obama administration's official rhetoric. During a recent Pentagon briefing with Chuck Hagel and General Martin Dempsey, President Barack Obama adopted this specific terminology to justify a three-pronged military strategy against ISIS in Syria and Iraq. This shift coincides with a push to repeal the 2011 Budget Control Act and escalate defense spending to counter Russian influence in Ukraine and Chinese military expansion in the Asia-Pacific.

German journalist Udo Ulfkotte has come forward with allegations that the CIA and BND routinely bribe European reporters to plant pro-American intelligence narratives in major outlets like the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung. This systemic influence extends to domestic entertainment through the Norman Lear Center and the Gates Foundation, which have successfully placed over 335 social engineering storylines in global television programming. Meanwhile, the Indian government is pursuing legal action against the Gates Foundation following reports of severe injuries and deaths among tribal children during unauthorized HPV vaccine trials for Gardasil and Cervarix.

Matthew Olsen struggles to maintain the official Benghazi narrative during a scripted interview with Charlie Rose, while former DHS official Dr. Alexander Garza attempts to rebrand Ebola as the "ISIS of infectious agents" on CNN. Between critiques of Common Core math and T-Mobile's mandatory corporate cheerfulness, the program explores the performative nature of TSA boarding pass scribbles and the suspicious timing of the Khorasan Group's emergence in the public consciousness.


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CHAPTER 01 / 34 Discussion

Turkey Roosting Anecdote, 2004 Date Error

A host describes discovering seven turkeys roosting on his roof in the East Bay area after mistaking their sounds for a distressed dog or a mockingbird. The conversation shifts to a correction regarding the current year, noting a verbal slip where the date was stated as 2004 instead of 2014.

east bay· turkeys· mockingbirds· dsm· urinal distress· 2004· 2014

00:00 Oh, really? You really work for CBS?! Adam Curry. John C. DeVore Act. It's Thursday, October 9th 2004 time for your Givemonation media assassination episode 659-er. This is no agenda Running a solid 98.6 degrees here in FEMA region 6 in the indispensable nation from the capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where it's foggy and cold And there's turkeys everywhere. I'm John C DeVore Okay we've had better openings I stumbled, you had a non-saccharine? It's typical. I had turkeys everywhere! Tell me what was this? What happened with your turkey? So i'm in the bathroom... Doing what? Are you brushing your teeth?

00:47 Excuse me. Are you brushing your teeth? No, I was in the bathroom taking a relieving my Urinal distress yes It's a new it's in the DSM urinal distress So I'm in there and I'm hearing what sounds like a dog squealing followed by a dog And I'm thinking to myself, what is this dog? It's this dog. It must be a neighbor's dog you know none of my dogs have this sound and But then there's this little bird sound that comes afterwards. Oh my god one of the The mockingbirds has picked up because they'll pick up anything We had a mockingbird once it sounded like a one of those rain birds

01:35 Right, right. They can do all kinds of sounds the market for us. They can make almost any sound and they do car alarms they do everything so I figured this thing had picked up a dog whining or squealing dog and then added some notes to it at the end And as soon as out of the corner of my eye look out the window on the roof I see a turkey! So oh my god there's a turkey on the roof and then there was another one There was a total of seven turkeys on the roof And then they all jumped off the roof to their neighbor's roof. There was a roost of turkey, they're roosting somewhere around the other side of this hill and they're all over town. They are all over the East Bay there is turkeys that fly across the freeway. They were nuisance and they've settled in in the bay area

02:20 I know that friends of mine in San Ramon have turkeys all over the place and they're all over the place. There was a beautiful tom, by the way, that jumped off the roof and I'm saying look delicious. I need to find someone who can... Joe Ames... Who's delicious? Who can catch it and kill it and make it red. David Gardner... Well, I can catch one of these birds, I'm sure. Joe Ames.. By the way, I'd like everyone to know you have not gone back in time It's 2014. You didn't even get- I apparently, I said 2004. You did? Yeah! Oh that's cute. That's not cute it's dumb. My dog first said November, I don't know what you were thinking there... Well, I know what I'm suffering from. 2004! Yeah, 2004-itis No no...I was looking through my medical journals as i do often on a Wednesday night with Miss Mickey you know we're just sitting we'd sit on the couch together and browse... Nice fire reading... Yeah browsing the medical journals Oh look And there is a word of course you know I have the Tourette's syndrome but there is a politically correct term for what I have oh mm-hmm neurodiversity

CHAPTER 02 / 34 Discussion

Pedophilia as a Disability, New York Times Editorial

A discussion regarding a New York Times editorial and Los Angeles talk radio debates concerning the classification of pedophilia as a disorder. The dialogue explores the legal and social implications of covering such conditions under the Americans with Disabilities Act or the Affordable Care Act.

pedophilia· americans with disabilities act· obamacare· new york times· affordable care act

03:29 This reminds me, I was in Los Angeles this week and there was a lot of discussion on the talk radio about especially in LA about the idea because of a New York Times editorial to call pedophilia Disorder that's coverable by the veterans or not affordable care I buy Obamacare American Americans with Disability Act Wow, oh because you're disabled because you're a pedophile. Yeah Well, I've always said that Child abuse this there's need to be very careful You've got pedophilia and your child abuse

04:09 Which is often people who were abused as a child. It is, first and foremost it's a health issue... Oh that was the yeah guy! Yeah yeah yeah But its never viewed as such. Its always oh cut his balls off throw him in jail but it's perpetuating thing that goes from generation to generation So I'm not well there's that and it was everyone was up in arms because they were the people would call never does that mean that? I have to hire you the guy comes in what your you know you have a disability disabilities like The guy somebody comes in and says dad. He's a pedophile, and then you have to hire him No, yeah, I thought it was there was amusement in them in the whole listening to this Distractive argument is never good It's not you know it

CHAPTER 03 / 34 Discussion

Foreign Policy Initiative, Obama and The Indispensable Nation

The Foreign Policy Initiative (FPI), a neoconservative think tank featuring Bill Kristol and Robert Kagan, released a document labeling the United States the "indispensable nation." President Barack Obama recently adopted this specific terminology during a meeting at the Pentagon with Chuck Hagel and General Martin Dempsey. The FPI executive summary explicitly calls for the repeal of defense cuts under the 2011 Budget Control Act to maintain global military leadership.

foreign policy initiative· bill kristol· robert kagan· barack obama· sequestration· budget control act

05:04 just the local Angelenos, you know when they can't...when they're not focusing on celebrities or focusing on something like that. It's not at all constructive at all. Okay so maybe I just dive into this we got a lot of ground to cover today i feel and you know we're always looking..I'm always looking I think we are always looking to find what the strategy is. You know, you would say to what end? Where's this going? What is this all about whose game plan are we running on right now?" Right which one are we executing and why? And my part's the hardest...you know we come up with a lot of good analysis of what is really going on but often we can't

05:49 Figure out why I'm what we think we can figure it out. We could be wrong almost all the time food They're really good at it whoever they are well something came out See why can't open this That's interesting application preview can't be opened. Well, why not that is just hilarious Okay I've got it here. I just want to read this this is um this will flow into everything you've got and The foreign policy, what are these guys? The FBI. Foreign Policy Institute. No, I think it's Foreign Policy Initiative is what it's called actually. Oh okay. But it is FBI, yeah the Foreign Policy Initiative they came out with their foreign policy document. Now Foreign Policy Initiative these are the neocons this on board we have Bill Kristol in the Board of Directors and of course our buddy Robert Kagan is also in this outfit. Fred!

06:54 I don't think Fred is in this one. Let me see, but have you take a quick look? It's Kimberly now they're in the she's in the War and Peace Institute where it's called the analysis spread out They can all be in one group yeah No, I think it's I don't know Fred's not in there This is Robert But he's annoying enough and I was reading through this In the executive summary, something hit me just right between the eyes and I said oh my goodness where have I heard this before? So this is the executive summary. The importance of American leadership and this is a think tank that tries to influence policy based upon foreign policy of course as their main initiative

07:41 and to influence American foreign policy for their constituents. And of course, if you look at who's a member of the FBI this is all military-industrial complex pretty much. The importance of American leadership... This is the first paragraph or sentence in the executive summary of this document and it says in big bold letters, "...the United States remains the world's indispensable nation." And I said to myself, self? Where did i hear this? Did I hear this on the no agenda show. I think everybody applauds the efforts that you've made and the size of coalition that has been assembled but most of them are contributing money or training for policing the borders not getting particularly close to the

08:30 to the contact. It looks like once again we are leading the operation, we are carrying most of the West... Steve that's always the case. That's always the case America leads We-We-We are The Indispensable Nation Okay so what your conclusion is of course is that Obama And completely and obviously under the control of the neocons, which is your assertion. I would say your assertion first before I ever thought so when they brought Kerry in and Kerry was sounding like a neocon every time he turned around? Yes. And let me follow it up with... This is just more further proof because now he's using the lingo... Let me follow-up. Well not just the lingo this... The indispensable nation. I've never heard this before.

09:20 This is brand new. He says this last week, but Sunday is when we had it so yeah was about last week and it's the first you know just imagine he gets someone on his desk oh what does this indispensable nation oh that's a guy should remember that one or it's just in the prompter Now, let me finish. I don't think that was a prompter item. He's stammering too much during that interview. So but this has been embedded in his brain, this indispensable nation which I've heard nowhere else to the first paragraph is this indispensable nation vital to global peace security and stability and crucial to protecting and advancing America's ideals and principles, America cannot afford to turn its back on its international commitments... ...and should maintain robust engagement in the world diplomatic military and economic to promote universal principles of democracy oppose the policies of authoritarian regimes and stand against human rights abuses across the globe. Now paragraph number two of the executive summary from the foreign policy initiative

10:19 To uphold this engagement, the United States should ensure that its defense budget is commensurate to the task of global leadership. Unfortunately current defense spending levels do not meet the federal government's constitutional requirement... ...to provide for the common defense of the nation." Now in bolded letters! In bold letters! The Obama administration and Congress should work together to repeal defense cuts under the Budget Control Act, restore the military's required readiness and force size, and maintain robust intelligence programs. And if you go down... I'm keeping this document open on my desktop 24-7 now because it has for every country it's got a mission for Afghanistan China Iran Israel Latin America North Korea Russia we go down

11:08 to the point, and it's only about a military-industrial complex. The United States should maintain a robust defense budget that would enable it to uphold the system of international peace and prosperity prevent major foreign aggression and keep open the flow of global trade in commerce even if the recent budget cuts were reversed. Defense spending would still amount to just 4% etc., etc... Under the law called the Budget Control Act of 2011, our armed forces are suffering. Now listen to the words here... Our armed forces are suffering catastrophic cuts Our law included both $487 billion in cuts to defense spending and after the failure of a bipartisan deficit committee reached a budget deal on additional 500 million in sequestration cuts. So here's, you know... That's what it's all about! Yeah our military is not staffed properly but in order to be the indispensable nation and President Obama goes down to the Pentagon yesterday

12:03 And he sits down with a very interesting, big long table and we had Chuck Hagel to his right for the viewers to his left. The Secretary of Defense and to his right for the viewers...for him left We had the Leprechaun General Dempsey Chief of Joint Chief Big Kahuna Dempsey had a jacket on over his military garb. So he had no medals, no Bakelite name tag just like a business guy which is abnormal for him and it was over his uniform and the president is saying oh you know usually we have these in the Oval Office but I thought to come down here check everything out see how were doing against that ISIS thing and the Ebola's

12:57 And then after two minutes, which is only a press moment. That's what the whole thing was is not a meeting as a bunch of people sitting there looking goofy and every single time the president would say something If you could see Dempsey looking at him with his big bug eyes going, what? Very worried about what he's saying. But here it comes! Finally we had a chance to talk briefly about defense budget and reforms We have done some enormous work and I want to thank everybody sitting around this table To continue to make our forces Leaner meaner more effective when he said leaner and meaner Dempsey looked at him with this No, not leaner more. We're talking about More tailored to the particular challenges that we're going to face in the 21st century But we also have to make sure that Congress is working with us to avoid

13:58 for example, some of the decronium cuts that are called for in sequestration. And to make sure that if we're asking this much of our armed forces that they've got the equipment and technology necessary for them to be able succeed at their mission and that were supporting their families at a time when even after ending one war winding down another They continue to have enormous demands placed on them each and every day. So taking these two things together, and taking advantage of this I guess we'll just call it a multiple crises to go straight to the sequestration cuts which is paragraph number two of the Foreign Policy Initiative's executive summary...I'm going to say that these guys are writing the plan!

CHAPTER 04 / 34 Discussion

ISIS Strategy, Three-Pronged Approach to Syria and Iraq

The Foreign Policy Initiative outlines a three-pronged strategy to address the threat of ISIS, involving the destruction of the organization, restoring stability to Iraq, and establishing a post-Assad Syria. General Wesley Clark commented on the necessity of a political outcome in the region, while the group's leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, is characterized by U.S. officials as sophisticated and well-financed.

isis· abu bakr al-baghdadi· chuck hagel· bashar al-assad· wesley clark· syria

14:55 The, uh... well I'm at their website. It's possible that these guys are writing the plan why not? Well let's look at ISIS Iraq and Syria it says Isis in the plan interestingly The rising power of ISIS in Iraq and Syria directly threatens the United States Okay okay now having said that In this report do they explain how Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the group's leader has publicly stated that ISIS... Hey I got a guy on this corner of the street that asked for dimes when he get off the freeway and he can publicly state that too. That doesn't mean he is going to do anything Has publicly stated that ISIS seeks direct confrontation with the United States and Well they're getting it Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel describes ISIS as a force that is sophisticated dynamic What? Strong

15:50 organized and well-financed. Wait, hold on a second so the Foreign Policy Institute couldn't say that? So they found... Here's the meeting Hey these boneheads what do we have to present them a little more strongly Well let's just say that they're forceful and advanced in their modern No! We can't say that That's bullcrap We know it's not true Can we find some jerk who said that And will just quote him Ah Let's ask the yeah guy if this is a good idea Phone needs to be ringing I'm sorry. We'll call him later Yes, please To address this threat the United States should adopt a three-pronged approach now I have not heard this laid out specifically But you can just wait for it but it's close number one in the three prong approach we have defeat and destroy Isis as an organization Okay well that's not doable

16:48 Then we have number two, restore stability to Iraq. Oh that's a winner! And number three bring about a post-Assad Syria that is free of terror so there we have again... They always slipped in as number three and the Assad. And Wesley Clark was on the BBC. Let's be honest about it, say did we got to get rid of Assad? Instead leave it at that They don't want to say those exact words. I believe because well and the Russians will perk yes Because Russian intelligence agencies, they're looking at this stuff and they were saying well asked not about us mm-hmm That's bullcrap these guys know not parlor the fine tooth comb and saying to themselves Who do the Americans think they're kidding with this? Well? I think I think it's different

CHAPTER 05 / 34 Discussion

Russia-Ukraine Conflict, Putin and Georgia Invasion Narrative

General Wesley Clark compared Vladimir Putin's situation to that of Muammar Gaddafi, suggesting a "political solution" is the ultimate goal for NATO and the U.S. in the region. The Foreign Policy Initiative document claims Russia invaded Georgia in 2008 and illegally annexed Crimea in 2014, though the hosts dispute the narrative regarding the origins of the Georgian conflict.

vladimir putin· crimea· georgia· ukraine· nato· wesley clark

17:34 This is a... Now of course, none of the people certainly not in the United States of Gitmo Nation give a rat's ass. We're not we don't care at all about whatever they're saying when no one's really listening But so this is to convince policymakers in Washington. That's all that it's about this little circle jerk be damned public In fact the public doesn't know half of this stuff right our listeners, but what the Russians need Is they need a soundbite of someone saying you know screw the Russian? No one's gonna give that to them. No one's going to give that to them, so they talk around it Wesley Clark Who was on the BBC? I caught him last night in BBC World He had the best way of saying you just gotta love a guy who knows how to talk this is about the

18:23 the force going in, do we have what it takes and what is really all about. The retired general Wesley Clark who was once NATO's supreme allied commander for Europe told us he is confident America and its allies will succeed against the militants If you're ISIS you can react quickly You can move here or there And you can do a quick strike But you don't have staying power if your NATO Turkey United States Britain It may take longer to get in there May take longer train the coalition but you got staying power and as Vladimir Putin is finding out once or as Gaddafi found out, once you... Interesting that he's... Oops! Oops! Oops! Putin-Gaddafi. Oops! Oops! Or as Gaddafi found out once you get the United States and Britain and NATO engaged in something we don't let go of it And so we can handle this if we put the right package together We have to have a political outcome in this case That's the ticket

19:18 They just call it a political outcome. Instead of killing people like Gaddafi, and by the way Vlad I think that was a shot across the bow, you know political solution so let's look at Russia in the FBI document. There is no reason in that sentence to mention Putin unless he was on his mind because it's all about Putin It is. Let's look at the Russian paragraph in the executive summary of the Foreign Policy Initiative Strategy, Russia's actions in Ukraine and around the world profoundly undermine regional and global stability... ...and reflect efforts by the Kremlin to dominate its neighbors."

20:00 Russia's illegal annexation of Crimea in March 2004, like its—and this is a good one—2008 invasion of Georgia... I'm sorry. Georgia attacked Russia? That has been admitted? But okay we'll rewrite history FPI Like it's 2008 invasion of Georgia demonstrates Moscow's willingness to use force in order to expand its sphere of influence unlike America Yeah, right away but just to stop you for this is probably the most annoying thing that we run across on this show over and over and over again. There's a meme that you know they've that the Russians attacked Georgia and it has been disproven. And admitted! Admitted even in minutes. Admit it. So what?

20:48 Shut up! It's like the Syrian government gassed the used chemicals. That's right, yes And that has been disproven over and over again. Just shut up! No, shut up! They'll say it. Shut up! It's just... Yeah, shut up. Russia is also actively challenging the role of the United States in Asia Latin America and the Middle East and continues to oppress its own people! That's funny by the way The Russian people love it they love Putin I think was Sir Gene who told me if Americans... If American government takes away peoples iPhones Americans are all in a uproar will protest on streets

21:34 And if you take away the iPhones from the Russians, they get behind their leader and tell him to go kick America's ass. They really... The Russians still do, from what I understand, they like the idea of a single powerful leader. They really do! But there is history? Yes. We have one that is fake And we, whatever. The United States should oppose such aggression and make tangible commitments to the defense of our allies in Eastern Europe in order to deter further Russian expansionism." But let's read this again Russia is actively challenging the role of the United States in Asia I'm sure they mean Japan and China pretty much North Korea Latin America and the Middle East It's obvious that most of what we're doing here Is against Russia

CHAPTER 06 / 34 Discussion

China Military Build-up, Russia Trade Status Termination

President Barack Obama issued a proclamation terminating Russia's designation as a beneficiary developing country under the Trade Act of 1974, effectively reinstating import duties. Meanwhile, the Foreign Policy Initiative highlights China's military growth and assertive foreign policy as a primary concern for Washington's interests in the Asia-Pacific region.

china· barack obama· trade act of 1974· import duties· brics· latin america

22:27 Everything that is going on is to push Russia off the island. And China and well, that's well there's something and we'll get to that later I have some China stuff Thank You Kagan thank you for the document We'll keep a close eye on it. You want know anything about any other country? Anything? It's all in here. China! China's continued military build-up, fueled by its increasingly assertive foreign policy and years of rapid growth of its military budget has raised concerns throughout the Asia Pacific region and the world. Washington must meet its commitments to allies and partners in the Asia Pacific and support Chinese dissidents and ethnic and religious minorities in their continuing struggle for human rights and dignity." Very vague... That's not very good!

23:22 So it's, you know this is... I have to look something up now that you read that stuff. Sure. Okay, I get it. Yeah yeah well I'm listening to these, Russia wants to do this they want to do that okay if you take and you look at every one of these assertions about Russia trying to push their weight around and it's all about the Russian oil and then gas problems. Exactly! We already talked about they're gonna run some gas out South Korea, there's some ports near North Korea and they're going to run some stuff out of there. And then of course they were meeting in Brazil because you're doing a deal with Brazilian gas and oil companies. And right now the trilateral... They call it the trilateral? Let me see what they call it.

24:08 Tripartite, I'm sorry three-way talks. Of course. Let's have a three way. Putin brings Russia to Latin America. Cooperation with Latin America is key to Russian foreign policy. Latin America is a rich source of natural resources oil and bauxites and fresh water Yeah, this is about trade. It's not about war. And did you see what we had a proclamation executive order to change or to amend the Trade Act of 1974 which provides favorable trade and...what is the word? Import duties to countries

25:00 And I now for Barack Obama, President of the United States by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution do proclaim that the designation of Russia as a beneficiary developing country is terminated effective October 3rd 2014. In order to reflect the termination of Russia's designation as a beneficiary developing country General Notes 4A and 4D, and the pertinent subsections of the HTS are modified as set forth in the annex to this proclamation. In other words all of the import duties that were waived are back on... Well, that's just about it. Yeah but that...but that's pretty significant. Yeah I'm sure is lots of money. Yeah for them yeah is tons of money And of course we have so many investments in Russia that I am surprised at the corporations that are deeply involved with Russian business community have not squawked louder

CHAPTER 07 / 34 Discussion

Russian Anti-Gay Propaganda, HBO Documentary Analysis

A recent HBO documentary regarding the targeting of gay people in Russia is criticized for using recycled footage from the Sochi Olympics. The narrative suggests the Russian state uses anti-pedophilia laws as a pretext to attack the gay community, a claim the hosts argue is being exaggerated for Western media consumption.

hbo· sochi· putin· lgbt rights· russia· pedophilia laws

26:04 I'm, well it's kind of like the Dutch. You know the Dutch are probably more than half of their GDP is reliant on Russia and you know it just shut up! Shut up! Just don't say anything... We have a new documentary that came out which I watched this documentary on HBO. I believe it is an original Channel 4 documentary, so don't think it's a- an HBO original and every single piece of the footage that was in this...I had already seen during the Sochi games Here's a quick cut down of the trailer Russia 2014 gay people are targeted by the state and hunted by vigilantes The gay community is under siege

26:49 They use the pretext of fighting pedophilia in Russia to attack gay people. DOOSHBAAAAT Putin hates gays! They're being hunted, it's open season! Hunted like dogs The war against gays in Russia I'm telling you every single- PUTIN Every single... piece of footage of a gay guy getting kicked, the gay guy getting sprayed with pepper spray. A lesbian being beaten I had seen already in almost a year ago during Sochi. They were trying to slam him during that event? Yeah! Well next will be another documentary about them killing innocent dogs. But then also say they're using pedophilia as a reason to hunt the gays

27:40 Factually not true. We've been through this we've deconstructed every single bit of these laws It's you know Nobody cares is this the problem just no one cares? No, buddy care well we care what we do care because for us it's content This King look at with 20 minutes 28 minutes contents beautiful. Yeah Love it Well, I can do the SDR thing then maybe. It'll just flow into it The SD... you're not gonna go back to that? Well there was an article in USA Today which i found very interesting Well let's see yeah

CHAPTER 08 / 34 Discussion

IMF Special Drawing Rights, China and The Magic Circle

China is seeking to include the renminbi in the International Monetary Fund's Special Drawing Rights (SDR) basket, a move supported by the British government's decision to issue renminbi-denominated bonds. The Official Monetary and Financial Institutions Forum (OMFIF), led by David Marsh, refers to the elite group of reserve currencies as the "Magic Circle."

imf· special drawing rights· renminbi· christine lagarde· omfif· david marsh

28:24 Yeah, some of the great journalism I've seen in USA Today. I'm sure this was interesting too. Well they have copied stuff from another outfit which i bumped into which I think you'll be interested in but the title of it is China Currency Push Takes Aim at The Dollar And I believe that the Hong Kong umbrella revolution may have something to do with this, at very least a distraction for Beijing. If you look at who's running this operation... This is the Endowment for Democracy who funded all these NGOs in Hong Kong who are riling everybody up. It's just another one of our freedom and democracy regime change pushes

29:10 So you have to admit we're pretty damn good if we were at first I did it. I think I for one Saw the Chinese thing as some so because they've always been complainers in Hong Kong I thought it. I didn't think of it as an American initiative, but the more I think about especially with this sort of thing going on I Think we've become So good at this because after all the failures We were doing is in the 50s and 60s And we're getting busted all the time all the CIA we found a guy yeah It was us And you had all these errors. And then, of course the State Department took it over under Hillary with the internet and the bots... And the techno experts. Yeah. The techno experts. Do we still have that clip? If true and it's possible has become a very slick and frightening operation. I mean, I could see these guys are so talented they could have you

30:09 Hating on me and quitting the show Let's go back I have a techno experts here clip. I just pulled it from the archive Well there's Hillary where they're taking no experts one yeah, oh Okay, so China's been... Let's assume that we are that good and now we have to stand in awe. And it's a powerful tool if the Chinese ...and of course we've noticed this before with Gaddafi you start messing around with the dollar, the hegemony of the dollar Here we go here We end up in trouble This is the point yes You wind up dead

31:01 China is bidding to enter the heart of global finance by establishing its currency, the renminbi as part of a ubiquitous monetary unit used in official transactions around the world. This is USA Today The issue whether the Chinese should be part of the International Monetary Fund's special drawing rights, the composite reserve currency used in official financing, is highly technocratic but the political question at stake Go to the core of world money and power, and we'll be discussed in the background at the annual meetings of the IMF & World Bank in Washington this week. In the background? Not a lot of reporting going on about this meeting between the IMF & World Bank Have you heard anything about this? No! Just now

31:41 The decision on a new SDR structure, this is the 2010 reforms that Fifi Lagarde keeps calling for that have not been ratified by Congress which they tried to do. Even Kerry tried to do this because he's not for America He's an Atlanticist and a globalist The decision on a new SDR structure to be made in the next 15 months will influence how China And its currency can play a bigger part in driving world trade investment and capital flows Now here's the thing that struck me in this article As the world's number two economy after the US, China believes it is close to earning the status of a reserve money. The first time that an emerging market currency would attain this position Chinese entry into the magic circle

32:25 has been advanced by the British government's September decision to issue Remney-B denominated bonds, the first big government to take such a step and allow the proceeds to be held as reserves by the Bank of England. And this magic circle I read...and this is a website we haven't talked about this i don't think...the OMFIF the Official Monetary and Financial Institutions Forum, which you can find at omfif.org This is very interesting this outfit I'll go to the about and let's just read what this says

33:07 The Official Monetary and Financial Institutions Forum is an independent research advisory group, a platform for confidential exchanges of views between official institutions and private sector counterparties. The overriding aim is to enable the private and public sectors to learn from each other in different ways promoting better understanding of the world economy and higher across-the board standards OMFIF cooperates with central banks, sovereign funds regulators debt managers and other public and private sector institutions around the world. And if you look at the advisory board... ...and they have huge lists for banking capital markets investments I don't know many names but when i found on public policy two names jumped out at me one Frits Bolkestein and I know this because I know the Dutch politicians

33:58 He's now the founder and president of the Telders Foundation, think tank connected with the center-right party, The People's Freedom Party in the Netherlands. But he served as a member of parliament, minister for foreign trade, minister of defense, member of the European Commission... This is a major ass elitist douchebag in Gitmo lowlands! And another name that jumped out is Ruud Lubbers Ruud Libbers, who was Prime Minister of the Netherlands and then he ran the International Commission for Human Rights and Refugees at the United Nations. And you recall that he was kicked out or had to resign because he was sexually harassing all the women there. He could pinch in their butt putting his arm around their waist...and they got thrown out!

34:40 But this is a massive, massive douchebag elite. And if you start to look at this list This is the club where they talk about these things and right there in their documentation they talk about the Magic Circle and the Magic Circle are the main four currencies that comprise the SDR And I find this interesting that now this OMFIF language is seeping into mainstream, USA Today's pretty mainstream. But why do they even call it a magic circle to start with?

35:22 Just the whole idea of something like a magic circle, like a secret club, a secret handshake. Well they use the word club in quotes! Yes they do. It's essentially a club with quotes of bankers and I'm looking over these lists... This editorial and commentary list is the one that kind of fascinates me. Where did you find that? Well, this where you were just under the advisory board Oh okay yeah So it's an advisory boards chaired by Professor Lord Omfif meetings which usually take place in a club-like atmosphere within central banks and other official institutions provide for deep seated exchange of views! This is...this IS a club And yet look at all these guys

CHAPTER 09 / 34 Discussion

Hong Kong Umbrella Revolution, NED Funding Allegations

The Umbrella Revolution in Hong Kong is characterized as a U.S.-backed initiative funded by the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) and USAID. These organizations reportedly provide million-dollar budgets to NGOs to foster regime change and disrupt the banking center of China.

hong kong· umbrella revolution· national endowment for democracy· usaid· occupy movement

36:11 So the idea I think is to bring China in by some accounts they now have the number one economy, but no By some there was another with someone said that wasn't a big publication that said it just today Well, they can say what they want. Okay? Well well I'm not arguing the point But they should be number two and they're not in and if then the remedy B comes in I think this is what a lot of these douche buckets want. And they're all gonna win, and they don't give a crap about what country... And to me it feels like what we have to do right now We have 15 months before the SDR maybe it's inevitable? I don't know No A lot of transactions are being done in ReminiB already or even the SDR already and Russia and China are not doing their trade in dollars

37:05 Why do you say no? The SDR is already a form of reserve currency. You can say no, but it is. Well then what's the point in killing Gaddafi to save the SDR?! I don't have an answer for that. They're going after China with these riots in Hong Kong, which by the way you should everyone should note this rise and all this action in Hong Kong...Hong Kong is the banking center of all China Thank You It's essentially and I said the word again but don't honk it is the it's the Zurich or where's the central? The Zug

37:45 of China, every bank. The Bank of China's there in this beautiful building that all these banks are in Hong Kong which has ruined the country state, the city state whatever you want to call it. It's ruined the place because if you want a visit there now its like your in Switzerland and too expensive but they've shut down the banks with these people in the streets. Oh yeah! We did a great job of it The Chinese, by the way have said publicly that they want us to butt out. Yeah because they know we're responsible but they say well if you are if you're getting involved here you're making a mistake it's I think was even in last in the last show show notes at number of the I can look them up which didn't get to it I have a number

38:34 NGOs that receive direct financing from the NED, the National Endowment for Democracy which is this huge organization. They received their funding from USAID which is the State Department That money goes to the National Endowment for Democracy And then that money trickles down into sometimes hundreds of non-governmental organizations, each get $1.5 million to a million dollars each and that's their operating budget and they go around creating things such as oh we'll call this the Occupy Movement and then oh we'll call it the Umbrella Revolution and we'll all do mic check mic check... no. And they did the hands up don't shoot! Oh how stupid is that? What has this got to do with anything?!

CHAPTER 10 / 34 Discussion

Christine Lagarde, IMF Leadership and Globalist Agendas

Christine Lagarde's prominent role in international meetings is contrasted with her predecessor, Dominique Strauss-Kahn, who was removed following sexual assault allegations. The discussion suggests Lagarde was installed to advance a specific globalist agenda involving the IMF voting structure and the inclusion of the renminbi.

christine lagarde· dominique strauss-kahn· imf· g20· globalism

39:21 Yeah, they tried that. I think someone pulled the plug on that and said no no yeah no that ends it quick we cannot do this so Do you think it's possible? Do you think it's possible that now Fifi Lagarde is front and center at every meeting She's not a politician she's not a leader of a country but she's always in the big meetings She's not a member of the g20. She's not a member of the G7 But she's always there right next to our president So you've got to assume she's a big deal. And they had to kick out the French guy under false pretenses and that turned out to be all fake, fake and phony except that he was a Flandrer but he certainly didn't rape any maid in the hotel room. Bingo boom shakalaka Fifi is in! I'd never even heard of Dominique Strauss-Kahn. I didn't ever see The Fat Frog at any meetings

40:14 Did you? Next to the president, no. No they wanted this woman in so Fifi's in from Chicago lawyer big time international lawyer big-time Chicago international right and maybe all of what's going on right now is just to grab turf and rubble eyes everybody else and make sure that we're still the biggest baddest asses in town it may be You know, we're supposed to keep our veto power in the IMF voting structure even if the Remini B is put in. I think it's related, I really do but there are multiple agendas at play and part of it is just too

40:55 Just ruin everybody else, especially Russia. Well there's...well Russia is a target obviously for various I think for a lot of different reasons oil and they're fooling around with the money yeah they're gonna use a different currency than the dollar which is what traditionally they've always used and there's a lot of issues with the Russians But I think we're gonna start. I'm gonna take in this this advisory board page of this operation, and I'm gonna take a make a Screen capture of it see who's show. I'm going to see who starts winding up dead It's a Deadpool

41:36 I think there's a number of these editorial and commentary people. It's astonishing that they're on this list, that they would be...that they would put themselves on this list. Do you recognize any names? That's what I was going to ask. No, they're all second-tier guys or by me, but Paul Betts for example at the top I being on the editorial and commentary side. In other words, you're gonna be doing their bidding so that you're already in violation of every edict that you're taught." He began his career as a news reporter at The Observer before moving to The Financial Times in 76 where he held various positions including Rome correspondent, New York correspondent, Paris correspondent...now it's starting to sound like MI6. He also has experiences deputy weekend FT editor, travel editor, aerospace correspondent again

CHAPTER 11 / 34 Discussion

Udo Ulfkotte Whistleblowing, CIA Influence in Journalism

German journalist Udo Ulfkotte has blown the whistle on how the BND and CIA recruit and bribe journalists to plant pro-American propaganda in major European newspapers. Ulfkotte admitted to publishing articles under his own name in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung that were written entirely by intelligence agencies, specifically regarding Muammar Gaddafi and Libya.

udo ulfkotte· bnd· cia· frankfurter allgemeine zeitung· smith-mundt act· propaganda

42:35 Sounded more like MI6. Well, okay now so it's possible that you know he might be in there I mean a couple of these guys have these kinds of bios where you sound like a spy Now let's move straight into the next related topic and then I need to say this again We are living under the repeal of the Smith Mundt Act which means the United States of America, by law is able to put propaganda out on the American people. Oh, by the way stop before you go on so I can do something and work in the background who is the byline on the USA Today article that you cited? Hold on let me go back to it one sec... The byline David Marsh

43:20 Special for USA Today. Wait, maybe he hasn't... Oh special! You know what that means? That means he's not on staff He's brought in David Marsh He doesn't even have a link I'll look him up. Whatever the case is, that story's been planted. Good because this leads right into a fascinating story from a German journalist who has blown the whistle on the BND, the Bundesnachrichtendienst which is the German CIA And let me tell you a bit about this guy. His name is Udo of Kotte, and let me grab his... where's the Ministry of Truth? Here we go that's where you can find all this stuff. Can I interrupt you for another second? Yeah!

44:14 David Marsh, Managing Director and Co-Founder of the Official Monetary Financial Institutions Forum. OMFIF. Oh! No wonder he put the magic circle in there He's from that outfit. Yeah, well he's the co-founder of the outfit. Hello! Sickening and USA Today oh yeah go ahead print that hey boys native advertisement Hey boys it's time to put this out into the press Hey can we call someone over there at USA Today maybe we can find a guy who is all on board let me see hello USA Today? Yeah Can we write an article about The Magic Circle? Yeah yeah okay thanks a lot good

44:56 This is how it works. This is Udo of Kota and he is going to explain exactly how he in the past operated with the BND, the German intelligence services then he has written for big publications here He has a wiki page and you can read all about him although It's all under dispute but listen to this We are still kind of a colony of the Americans And being a colony at this very easy-to-approach young journalists through what is very important here as transatlantic organizations. All journalists from really respected... Now he's talking about outfits just like this, right? A transatlantic organization or Council on Foreign Relations or any of these outfits and recommended big German newspapers magazines radio stations TV stations they are all members

45:53 are guests of those big transatlantic organizations. And in these transatlantic organizations, you are approached to be pro-American and there is nobody coming to you and saying well we are the Central Intelligence Agency would you like to work for us? No! This is not the case how it happens What they do, these transatlantic organizations is they invite you for seeing the United States. They pay for that, they pay all your expenses and everything so you are bribed, you get more and more corrupt because... They make good contacts! You won't know that those good contacts are let's say non-official

46:41 non-official covers or officially people working for Central Intelligence Agency or other American agencies. So you make friends, you think they are friends and cooperate with them. They ask you well could you do me this favor? Could you do me that favor? And so your brain more and more is brainwashed through... This by the way is exactly what has happened to the tech press This is exactly what has happened. It's true! There is a complete parallel analogy where technology reporting, it no longer reporting, it is PR this is exactly what has happened and it happens with free review units and dinners and we fly you in to have the presentation of the next operating system oh and let me suck you off. I think that CIA in the old days

47:36 There was much easier just a want some booze and a hookah Yeah, fine. Write whatever you want man. It is only the case with German journalists? No I think it is especially the case where's British journalists because they have a much closer relationship It is especially the case With Israelis of course was French journalists for apart not that big as that was German or with British journalist it is a case for Australian and journalists, for journalists from New Zealand, from Taiwan. Well there is many countries in the Arab world like Jordan for example, like Oman's the Sultanate of Oman. There are many countries where this happens where you find people to claim they are respected journalists but if you look behind them you'll find they're puppets on a string of the Central Intelligence Agency

48:39 And it's done in many ways. You know, come on to come to the White House Christmas party, you know... in the 1970s and 80s, or I guess the 70s mostly. The CIA would have a recruitment desk and they would recruit you to come...work for the agency as a journalist. And then they place you in The New York Times... Adamus Pacheco Operation pundit. It's a known operation within the CIA. John Maass And you get two checks!

49:15 Yeah, well it gets even better. You don't even have to do the work! Sometimes the intelligence agencies they come to your office and want you to write an article I give you a example not from strange other journalists from me myself German foreign intelligence Bundes Nachrichten Dienst It is just a sister organization of the Central Intelligence Agency it was founded by the American Intelligence Agency so one day The BND, this German foreign intelligence agency came to my office at the Frankfurter Allgemeine in Frankfurt. And they wanted me to write an article about Libya and about Colonel Muammar Gaddafi. I had absolutely no secret information regarding Colonel Muammar Gaddafi and Libya, but they gave me all these secret informations, and they just wanted me to sign the article with my name.

50:17 But it was an article that was published in the Frankfurter Allgemeine, that originally came from the Bundesnachrichtendienst, from the German Foreign Intelligence Agency. So do you really think this is journalism? Intelligence agencies writing articles? Yeah, it's pretty much everything that is that is the definition of journalism. I think yeah today Has been for quite a while one last one last and Bob Woodward of course as our prime example Oh, yeah if anybody was a book family of secrets yep If anybody reads that book there's a good document It's well documented that woodward ways what he started off his naval intelligence

50:59 And the next thing you know, he's writing all these books with all this crazy information. It's like how does that work? One last clip here from Udo Oh yes! That article was how Libya and Colonel Muammar Gaddafi... How he secretly tried to build a poison gas factory I think in Raqqa was the name yeah and i got all those informations it was a story that was printed worldwide two days later but I had no information on that. It was the intelligence agency that wanted me to write this article." And what's...this is another part of the system, is if you want to really make something propagate go viral as it were then you just say oh well this was written in The Uganda Times and they say this is true ergo The New York Times can print it

CHAPTER 12 / 34 Discussion

Norman Lear Center, Hollywood Health and Society Propaganda

The Norman Lear Center at USC's Annenberg School runs the Hollywood Health and Society program, which provides free resources to TV writers to incorporate storylines about climate change and the Affordable Care Act. A clip from a television show illustrates how environmentalist memes, such as solar power and reclaimed cooking oil, are integrated into scripts to influence public opinion.

norman learner center· usc· climate change· affordable care act· modern family· propaganda

51:51 Because they've sourced it from what they call a trustworthy source. Yes Now there's two things that go along with this and since we're doing it anyway, I might as well just blow it out while We're here the Norman Lear Center Does does this ring a bell to you? No Okay Let me think It's about all in the family is a bunch of old like the old couch that Archie used to sit on and Well, the Norman Lear Center is a division of the Annenberg School for Communications and Journalism. And it runs the Hollywood Health and Society Program out at USC. Yes, USC. The Norman Lear Center... I think they fund that with at least a couple million dollars a year. Norman Lear's still around? He's not dead is he?

52:42 I think he is dead. And a lot of people are members of this Norman Lear... It was founded with the five million dollar gift from Norman Lear, but most of its active project have been funded by other entities and well i'm not even going to tell you who, you can almost guess and they had a meeting He's still alive. He's 92 in New Haven, Connecticut. There you go. So this is really a Hollywood outfit and there was a meeting when Marty Kaplan is the Norman Lear professor of entertainment media at Society and he was talking about how the Norman Lear Center works with The White House administration but also with Hollywood A few quick clips

53:30 This is the setup from Marty talking about the center. Hollywood Health and Society does outreach to the entertainment industry in order to provide a resource free to writers and producers anywhere in the entertainment industry who are covering the areas of public health, climate change, and access to health care. We do it in a wide variety of ways. Briefings, tip sheets, events at the Writers Guild West and the Writers Guild East tomorrow I'm going to The Lovely Weather in New York for an event we are doing at the Writers Guild East on the Affordable Care Act. Now this is not

54:15 foreign to us because yeah, of course we know that they're trying this all the time and Valerie Jarrett's taking meetings. But as you get into this bits and pieces of the speech and you hear how deep and how vast and who is financing this infiltration of popular culture in media to propagate memes Affordable Care Act okay? I mean that's one thing it was voted it passed the Supreme Court its law now We have to go propagandize it Which this is propaganda. This is the definition of propaganda, but climate change? Okay let's listen to a couple examples here's the Affordable Care Act We have a new grant from the California endowment which is about the affordable care act

55:01 Access to health care is a long-standing issue of public health and now with this collaboration of funders we are able to provide special attention to it. And the event that I just mentioned in New York, the Affordable Care Act comedy drama and reality will happen on Tuesday. Oh, I'd like to go to that. If you look at the Hollywood Health Society, the advisory board is another one of those kind of who's whose is very, very in David Foster, Vince Gilligan, Vince from Breaking Bad canters in there, the cantors who are Disney

55:45 Judith light Very cool. Now, let's listen. Let's listen to the do some more propaganda for climate change We have a brand new aspect of Hollywood Health and Society which is to work with On the topic of climate change Yes where again all these different activities writer briefings screenings newsletters and so on are an attempt to provide free resources to writers who want to include climate change as one of the storylines that they're working on. And just to give you an example, of that climate change work

56:25 a few weeks ago there was a field trip. We do something called story bus tours to the JPL NASA lab in Pasadena where we brought something like 37 writers and producers to experience the most amazing stuff that they have going on, to inspire them in this area and to be factually accurate. Notice how not only does the American government and their affiliated NGOs use the word inspire when it comes to propaganda, but it's the same word the jihadists use, inspire, you know? So it was kind of the same... Magazine. Yeah, two different sides. I'm gonna have to stop this for a second and give you a clip of the day for that because of that one sentence in there about...

57:11 Getting them to incorporate climate change into their scripts Really, you're gonna give me clip of the day. That is actually a clip of the day You should well okay? But yeah we can't have we can't have multiple clips every day only one Very important clip. If I get a better one, you know... This was a very important clip that people needed to hear and realize what's going on and how this works. Let's uh.. I'm gonna say right now like i said i was in Los Angeles this whole week and i was hanging out with people from Hollywood types Oh, with Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt. No the people that are at the E-network level. Ryan Seacrest I'm sorry. It's the C team it's the junior varsity, it's the JVs. The JVs yeah okay got it.

58:00 And there you can just see that sort of thing. Most of these people do not know anything about current events at all. No, and they're getting a free... You'd like to start brainwashing them about climate change and now all the sudden they're experts! Yeah, and they get in a free bus ride to NASA? Come on this is great! Classic. Everybody into the bus! Would you like a little more? Sure. Okay, Norman Lear as part of our efforts in climate change has been saying over and over what we need is to have a show that has lots of viewers and has a character who is a total pain in the ass about climate change And the character he thought would best do that is Manny The Kid

58:50 on Modern Family. Well, that didn't happen." Now notice they pitched it! They pitched it to Modern Family to try and make this kid a climate change nutjob about everything... Yeah, denier No no not a denier I think they- oh yeah a denier yes you're right Denier So they didn't do that but But I will show you something that did happen and we never take credit for anything that we did no We don't do that. We never do that, but I have seen Norman personally make this pitch to a number of showrunners now Show runners are the people who as the word implies run a show or

59:33 and it is their job to make things happen. Very important job. Well, they also guide the show? Yes they do. They guide everything. So now you know that this is actively being pitched to propagandize you through popular culture and now he's going to play a clip Hey there, neighbor. Oh hey! It's Asher right? Yeah um I just wanted to let you know i think there might be something wrong with your air conditioner oh really yeah i mean it just seems to be running a lot even when it's uh kind of cool outside oh no no my partner runs a little hot not as hot as our planet sorry i don't mean to beat that guy it's just

1:00:11 We're all in this together. Yeah, I drive a Prius so... And that's a nice little gesture my car runs on reclaimed cooking oil! I have some literature if you want it? That's okay save the paper. I haven't printed anything since 2004 i was going to email you and your power hungry computer?! My entire house is solar powered. I sell energy back to the grid and use that money to save polar bears. I'm an environmental lawyer so you know i'm pretty green. So is your lawn. I went drought tolerant succulents indigenous plants rock garden My other daddy says your yard looks like a litter box. She's a cute kid, I remember when she was in disposable diapers Right So we all get the idea of Wow! Yo, I can't accept another clip of the day No i'm not gonna give it to you because its part of the same clip of the day I don't care, whatever makes the same clip Now let's find out who do you think is behind some- Who's financing some of these things John? Who could it be? Don't say Koch Brothers please

CHAPTER 13 / 34 Discussion

Gates Foundation, Global Media Infiltration in India and Nigeria

The Gates Foundation is funding "Global Centers" in India and Nigeria to influence the world's largest entertainment producers outside of Hollywood. The initiative has successfully placed over 335 storylines across 91 different television shows in the past four years to promote specific social and health agendas.

bill gates· gates foundation· india· nigeria· nollywood· bollywood

1:01:07 It wouldn't be the Koch brothers, it would be one of those other big groups or White House from Rhode Island and whoever he's investing in which I'm going to find out about. There is such an obvious one John. Okay Disney? There is another new exciting project at Hollywood Health & Society which is called Global Centers. It's funded by the Gates Foundation and in fact, our Gates program officers are here in town today and because they're here we're in a series of meetings which I'm playing hooky on briefly for others of us

1:01:42 at those meetings right now, which I will join. We now have partners in India and in Nigeria the number one and two producers of entertainment in the world." I didn't know Nigeria was a producer of entertainment other than those funny emails I get I don't believe it. I think Hong Kong is number three. How does Nigeria get there? Or two or three, I don't know why this we have to look this up right exactly are India and Nigeria Hollywood is number three so we are now seeing whether we can help our partners in those two production centers do the kinds of things there that we have been able to do here. So this is attention, attention India Nigeria you're about to receive some regime change and some freedom and democracy because Bill Gates is paying for it appropriately adapted for their area

1:02:41 appropriately adapted for their area. Well, let's just wind this up with the numbers. Let's just wind it up with the numbers and how are they doing? It is a very short clip. How many TV shows, scripts, storylines... Do you want to take a guess at how many? So in the course of our work, this is uh... In two years 11 to 13 335 storylines that we worked on have been aired. We've worked with 35 networks in the past four years 91 different television shows Woohoo! 20 John? 20? 20

CHAPTER 14 / 34 Discussion

Gardasil Vaccine Lawsuit, Gates Foundation in India

The Indian government is reportedly pursuing legal action against the Gates Foundation following the deaths and illnesses of tribal school children during HPV vaccine trials for Gardasil and Cervarix. Reports from the Economic Times of India indicate that 16,000 children were vaccinated in 2009, leading to symptoms such as epileptic seizures and severe stomach aches.

gardasil· hpv vaccine· glaxo smith kline· india· gates foundation· tribal children

1:03:27 Okay, well they were all over the... Well I mean you noticed this. I've noticed this as I was watching something the other day and somebody just slipped in one of these one-line gags like they were doing in that clip that he played. You know? Oh well it's not as fast as the Earth is warming up kind of thing. Just casual. That's what you want to do. You want these casual comments so its just like So it just keeps going. The public is being pummeled with this crap. I want to thank Bunny Serrano, one of our producers who brought a lot of this in my attention did some good work with me. I'm very happy. This is our global intelligence network people And then, and this will be fun. Well you mentioned it I think there's a couple of flies in the ointment of the scheme especially in India apparently Gates' operation has been illegally vaccinating people with Gardasil Yeah! Of course! Where teenage girls are dropping dead and there is a lawsuit now that the Indian government is going to sue The Gates and we have sent you a link that'll be on the show notes That you should read this article It's frightening

1:04:33 because this has been going on. Young tribal girls tested with HPV vaccines, Economic Times of India published their report in August 2012 stating that in 2009 tests had been carried out on 16 000 tribal school children and some area of india using the human papillomavirus vaccine Gardasil and then I guess they were also testing the other one which is cervanics from So, GlaxoSmithKline. Cervarix I think is what it is. Oh yeah, Cervarix you're right. And the show notes right now by the way and uh 14 000 tribal children vaccinated and then apparently a lot of these girls dropped dead

1:05:15 120 girls had been taken ill, suffering from a variety of symptoms including epileptic seizures which we've heard about that was going on in Finland with other vaccines. Severe stomach aches headaches and there's all you know the stuff that we have the mood swings remember? That one area in the United States got a bunch of the vaccine and they call it What was it? They had a word for it. Some neuroses that there was... Yeah, it was like mass hysteria they were playing and this is getting out in India as opposed to the United States these stories of what Gates Foundation is up to in some of these areas and investing in my favorite one, of course big investors

1:06:00 criminal, private prison system stock. So anyway, the idea is that they hear about this stuff in India. We don't get these stories in the United States Nothing as ever bad has said about gay people if you ask someone on the street Oh he's a wonderful man You know what your funding to dry up do ya? Well that would be one of the problems In India which is a massive more

1:06:38 oriented toward these sorts of things because they don't trust anybody. This is not, if word gets out that the Bollywood people are taking money or doing anything because of the Gates Foundation operation? No this is not going to work So all of that... Hollywood beware! All of this is happening. It is happening continuously, it is across all forms of mainstream media and it is the only reason that well not the only reason but we're not susceptible to that because we don't have advertising We don't take money from anybody except for people who are enjoying the value of this program although I'm completely open to

CHAPTER 15 / 34 Discussion

T-Mobile Customer Service, Awesome and Mirific Language

A host recounts a frustrating experience with T-Mobile customer service where the representative was trained to start every sentence with the word "awesome." This leads to a broader critique of corporate language trends observed at the Adobe Max conference, where "amazing" and "super excited" were used excessively, prompting the hosts to suggest the archaic word "mirific" as a substitute.

t-mobile· customer service· adobe max· awesome· amazing· mirific

1:07:21 I've been waiting for my climate change denial check. Haven't seen it show up yet from the Koch brothers." No, we're not going to get any money from the Koch brothers because i don't think they listen to podcasts or even know how to get... and I had a contact friend of the Koch brothers and I told him to tell them about our show and you see the results What podcast I don't know what you're talking about so with that in mind? I would like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C Dvorak well And in the morning to you Adam Curry also in the morning at all the ships at sea and the boots on the ground and The feet near the subs in the water and all the dames of the nights out there Of course in the morning to everybody in the chat room knowledge in a stream calm in the morning to Nick the rat who provided the art for our Episode six five eight

1:08:11 The good to see Nick back on the stick. NoahArtGenerator.com is where you can see all of the art that has submitted It's very difficult for us often to choose from so many fan- fabulous, just fabulous Fabulous! This reminds me... So I finally broke down and called uh, I got switched over to T-Mobile from AT&T because I can't afford these overseas rates with Mickey Travels. And you know, AT&T have to buy a $300 package of bandwidth. It's not stinks if the whole thing is ridiculous and T-Mobile has this loss leader deal. I'm sure no matter where you are in the world that you may only be on, you can't be on LTE but you get the two and a half G or three g but it's the same just flat rate

1:08:55 Flat rate you don't pay anything extra, so that's fine for whatever we have to do Whatever she has to do because I really have a phone and So I'd go through this this website and twice It fails on me the order And the reason why is I wanted it because I just needed a SIM card for if I want to use my Nokia I'm not getting the phone but I figured out get Mickey 5 s which are you can get for free almost And then I go through the whole checkout and then it says, oh this is on back order. And I'd already said please switch our numbers so I hit the back button because I don't want to switch the number if we don't have the phone sounds logical Then I get this oops you know didn't work and they have to call in and now you're trying to get a person at T-Mobile

1:09:40 I'll spare you the details, but finally. I got this girl And i'm going to say she was probably millennia millennial for sure yeah Sure and she was very cheery very happy But every single sentence so your adam you be adam and use and And I'm gonna call user is reading the phone. I'm calling okay hold on a second here's the phone Hello T-Mobile Yeah, I've got a problem. It's going to be a little difficult to explain but I hit the back...I was trying to do what you have online and it doesn't seem to really work the way it's advertised and I gotta change in other words why they did I screwed up and I need to change it back yeah that's right I'll be really happy to help you can I have your first name please? I'm Adam, Adam Curry Oh awesome! Adam okay um and uh Have you been a T-Mobile customer before

1:10:39 I don't know what that's got to do with anything, but... I think maybe. Awesome! Okay Adam well let's see i can fix this for you no problem so do you have your order number handy? Yeah I do Oh awesome okay So after five minutes of this This was on T-Mobile Yes I say to her You start every sentence with the word awesome And I just want to tell you it's not awesome. It is not awesome." But he knows, and she says really? I do that? I say yes every single sentence you said awesome! She says well that's how we were trained What?! Yes and again in this whole conversation the woman who trained us You know to read the script of me and she said please start every sentence with awesome

1:11:29 What yes, but wait it gets better So then I tweet so I'm on the phone with what? I can't imagine how that's possible. So I so while this is happening you And now, and actually now I'm kind of... she's funny. And she's listening to what I'm saying because you know that's strange we're trained. She's a pro! She's a pro the woman who trained us said please start every sentence with awesome so I do awesome it's really weak use of language and then I tweet this out and someone tweets back Maybe she should use SuperDuper. And I said, hey you know someone just tweeted back that you should try using SuperDuper and I swear to God John she started...SuperDuper! She started doing that every sentence with SuperDuper Adam okay we can help you with that it was just a in a twilight zone man

1:12:21 Well, it doesn't surprise... I went to the Adobe Max conference in Los Angeles and I went to all the keynotes because they show a bunch of product and some new features. And every single person at least the first five came out and the first thing they said was that they were super excited about being Yeah, yeah. You have to see our new super exciting features and then they used the may look at this it's amazing amazing amazing amazing and that if that's the oh my god that is amazing The next group that came out, they changed amazing to awesome. The same word you were using. Awesome! And that's all they said. It was awesome and this is awesome and then you'd have super-awesome. But oh... The thing I noticed because I was counting the amazings and the awesomes with one of my fingers, it should be a little clicker on your belt. Click click?

1:13:21 I thought the strangest thing was nobody just said super, like the British might say. Or super duper! Super or anything! They never said fabulous fantastic astonishing no it's flabbergasting flummoxing yeah there was a lot of possibilities But I just plain super is kind of cool, but no you got none of that anyway the Germans very annoying It was it was disgusting actually Germans also use that Zupa. This is Zupa Zupa guy Oh super Zupa. I like Zuba. What's what are the what are some synonyms for?

1:13:58 Amazing or awesome. Well, let's try amazing No, that's right awesome. Let's try awesome well Let's just do it for a second see we come up with like Webster Appalling awful feel this interesting cool foot phenomenal excellent nominal nobody says phenomenal bang-up Bang fantastic oh here's one wicked Wicked yeah where's wicked terrific? Where's terrific it's a classic yeah Let's try amazing. Let's see what they have, what we have for amazing... surprising... striking... ooh! Striking? Good. Unexpected. Astonishing. Another good one. Extraordinary. Wonderful. Astounding. Marvelous. Miraculous. That's just as bad as tremendous. Tremendous. Myrrhific

1:14:50 What? Mirific. Never heard of it. M-I-R-I-F-I-C, mirific I've never heard of that word. Mirific Well we're start... let's start using it then Let's see, mirific I think that's a merrific idea! Merrifc It's in the dictionary I'll have to look it up. Merrific I like that Wonderful or amazing, merrific Let's just start using that Merrific might catch on Yeah, merrific my friend I said my friend sorry Merrific Alright, let us thank people who have come in at the level of executive producer or associate executive producer. This is just like Hollywood except they don't give us a script to read! They just support the work that we do

CHAPTER 16 / 34 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Karma and Fire Survival Story

A significant donation segment features a story from a listener in Montpelier, Vermont, who credits "No Agenda Karma" for his survival and recovery after a yard waste explosion left him with second and third-degree burns. Several other executive producers are thanked, and new knights are recognized for their financial support of the program.

knighthood· karma· montpelier· vermont· burn unit· donations

1:15:35 Yes, so you can find out about the bullcrap everybody else does and it's getting worse. That's real! It's getting worse because you're bringing in stories from USA Today written by the guy that is behind this story? And he puts his magic circle word in there. Wait when he's credited do they have his attribution on there or was just some random writer? Let me double check I'm pretty sure it just had... let me see where is it to It was under... Oh, yeah. The SDR. Hold on. I think it was...I don't think they said at all that he would...because you would...I think you would need to say- David Marsh is managing director of official monetary and financial institutions forum a London Think Tank so it does say it at the bottom.

1:16:26 At least they didn't violate that rule Wow, that's if anyone reads it now. No one gives a crap It should be actually on the byline itself at the top That's like when someone says Full disclosure, I own stock in Google while i'm doing this show about Google. Full disclosure? Like that excuses anything! It excuses nothing! And if I was an ethics committee, I would demand that they put this attribution at the top. At the top. Right at the top you know right when you see his byline and know what he's up to. Call John Schwartz John Schwartz. Yes, and isn't that the guy we know at USA Today? I know everybody at USA Today. Well let's... We need a meeting with them! No, not interested.

1:17:15 All right, Stephan Dean. I want to thank a bunch of executive producers for today's show. Stephen, I think it's Stephen. Stephen. Show 659. Stephen Dean on Oswego Illinois 870 bucks is going to do some funny dollar combination for 666 or something but decided just finish my much lagging knighthood instead. Wow! It's way past due, but with three kids in between 18 and 6 money gets tight. Love you guys give yourself and everyone in the No Agenda Nation some karma! Please knight me as Sir Stephen of Oswego. Oswego. It's Oz-Ozwego. Well Stephen thank you so much man this is very nice then I'm gonna put him into triple six category as well

1:18:00 He should be a triple six or four our yeah, I will give him a triple 6n at 2 cent of would do it day 14 What is it 100 and something dollars extra? You've got karma and we will be knighting you Steven looking forward to it Jason Berg in Portland, Oregon 666.66 I just want to give some Boomshakalaka Karma to everyone out there This is the second guy in a row who's done we had a big donation that has given karma to the audience That's nice isn't it? Yes, this is it's uh, merrific

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1:27:01 Yeah, we're for CBS. I'm a producer big shot you know if only I could find an unknown from my next project But you know That kind of thing and this was going on constantly Okay 127 perfect Oh by the way John By the way. Oh no, I can't-I'm sorry. I thought...no, I've been sworn to secrecy it's about CBS CBS? I'll tell you after the show. I could talk about it. Yeah secret secret. That's secret big secret Okay so a lot of people tweeted this picture It was a picture but of course I need to play the audio for you what is our medium that we spend a loooot of effort

CHAPTER 17 / 34 Discussion

CNN Ebola and ISIS Comparison, Dr. Alexander Garza

Dr. Alexander Garza, a former medical officer for the Department of Homeland Security, appeared on CNN to characterize Ebola as the "ISIS of infectious agents." The segment argues that this analogy is a deliberate attempt to merge health crises with national security threats to justify increased government intervention.

cnn· ebola· isis· alexander garza· homeland security· terrorism

1:27:52 making this a pleasurable experience to listen to, so when we can, we like to play the actual audio. And this is The Clash of the Memes which I believe is quite intentional in order to confuse the public and preoccupy and distract the public So you can think about nothing else and when you start to look at these two memes next to each other, you can see the similarities and why it works so well. Only CNN could do this but here they are with Dr Garza. medical officer at the Department of Homeland Security. Dr Garza, if I may because that is a bit of a chilling analogy that it's the ISIS of infectious agents does that mean is that deadly? That dangerous or that it needs to just be treated with the same kind of strategy

1:28:51 I think it's a little bit of both Ashley and so if you think I know but I know it's beautiful So he says Isis is the Ebola an infectious diseases. I mean ebola is the Isis the ISIS of infectious diseases Then now he's going to explain how we treat ISIS and Ebola the same way. Mind you, the guy was at Department of Homeland Security so he's part of the pundit program then he is a shill and he is meant to bring these two together. About Ebola as an agent that spreads throughout and kills innocent people it's directly like ISIS right? Yes because it spreads amongst people and kills innocent people like a virus! And then has the audacity

1:29:33 to put a right after it. It's directly like ISIS, right? It infects people and it kills people And so the response if we're calling this a national security issue needs to be equivalent If this was a form of terrorism meaning We have to attack the problem overseas like we do with terrorism and like the president is doing sending the military But we also have to protect the homeland screening passengers and doing all those other efforts to protect the American public Unbelievable Isis Ebola same thing same thing I got a lot of Ebola stuff if you want to do that If you're I'd rather stay with net than that right now Because they do have a bunch of clips because I was watching Charlie Rose and they had this apologist on ah This is just the the sea panetta. Oh

CHAPTER 18 / 34 Discussion

Charlie Rose Interview, Matthew Olsen and Intelligence Prestige

Matthew Olsen, the former head of the National Counterterrorism Center, appeared on Charlie Rose to provide a scripted briefing on the state of U.S. intelligence. The hosts discuss Charlie Rose's transition to the CBS morning show, suggesting the move was a financial reward for his long-standing service to the establishment.

charlie rose· matthew olsen· nsa· cbs· pbs· counterterrorism

1:30:24 No, no. This guy was the head of the National Counterterrorism Center and just quit. Olsen! Olsen yeah. Yeah. It comes on Charlie Rose I have a lot of little clips from him. This is the guy if i recall correctly who came in and he said that it was oh yeah the poverty creates Lone Wolves. Do you remember he had that? He wrote a book about it, he had a bunch of...He said a lot of strange things but he seems to me after listening to this interview which was so scripted and this guy is little weak because he doesn't do a lot of these I guess right that Charlie Rose was feeding him the answers constantly. Charlie's good that way no he's really good that when now even when i was watching this particular interview where charlie as

1:31:14 He's just all in and he's feeding him. No, no you say this now you say it. Now what about this? Isn't that right?" Now I realize that Charlie is at CBS on that morning show beating himself to death by the way but he's making... You know you make like 10 million or plus on those morning shows if you are the head guy 12 14 million is not unheard of yeah, and this is his reward because he's never met You know you don't make money working for PBS even if producing your own thing you make you may know you might as well do a podcast I mean it's just no money. You make some money in your man It's an easy very prestigious But you don't make any you don't make the money you really want now you can go on speaking tours You can talk around the country Yeah That's more work so that you say here Would you like them more because why is Charlie Rose doing the CBS morning show the money he wants to

1:32:01 cash in, cash out. I'm saying from a producer's perspective why would you put him he looks like crap in the morning he is old. Well he has prestige okay because they have Gail so they have Gail who was Oprah's clam bumper I don't know why i said that. That's you're just...I apologize they have Gail Shepard who is not a journalist as far as I know but okay she's now on the morning show and you need a seasoned veteran who it's like Kurt Loder MTV felt they needed some credibility and they brought in Kurt Loder, the guy who wrote for Rolling Stone then wrote the book I, Tina! And makes a mean-ass margarita at 10 in the morning

1:32:44 Well, Charlie Rose may also make a mean-ass margarita at 10 in the morning for all we know. But it seems to me that you put this guy in that job as a reward to him. Ah okay... That's what I'm thinking. He's been on board forever and here's an example because he's got this Matthew Olson on now We have a bunch of clips and you listen and he's sent... For all practical purposes He is giving us a briefing on everything that's happened from the intelligence perspective and how it's going to be better, and everything's fine. Don't worry about it." And so let's start with a couple of the questions and answers that he asked him...so we can... So the audience for Charlie Rose, the public broadcasting audience will be, oh okay I feel a lot better now Snowden's an asshole. So let's start with the Olson Report NSA Will Catch Up?

1:33:37 Okie dokie. But going back to your question about the NSA director, I mean look. I worked at NSA it's a really extraordinary organization and my sense is that they will work day and night to overcome these obstacles And they have really brilliant people mathematicians computer scientists analysts They will over time be able to make up for the ground we've lost but it's gonna take time

CHAPTER 19 / 34 Discussion

Cyber Mercenaries, Matthew Olsen's Warning of Imminent Attacks

Matthew Olsen warned of "cyber mercenaries" who could be hired by groups like Al-Qaeda to attack U.S. financial and energy sectors. The hosts interpret this repeated emphasis as a precursor to a new government initiative targeting the tech community and independent system administrators under the guise of national security.

cyber mercenaries· nsa· al-qaeda· mosul· cyber warfare· matthew olsen

1:32:44 Well, Charlie Rose may also make a mean-ass margarita at 10 in the morning for all we know. But it seems to me that you put this guy in that job as a reward to him. Ah okay... That's what I'm thinking. He's been on board forever and here's an example because he's got this Matthew Olson on now We have a bunch of clips and you listen and he's sent... For all practical purposes He is giving us a briefing on everything that's happened from the intelligence perspective and how it's going to be better, and everything's fine. Don't worry about it." And so let's start with a couple of the questions and answers that he asked him...so we can... So the audience for Charlie Rose, the public broadcasting audience will be, oh okay I feel a lot better now Snowden's an asshole. So let's start with the Olson Report NSA Will Catch Up?

1:33:37 Okie dokie. But going back to your question about the NSA director, I mean look. I worked at NSA it's a really extraordinary organization and my sense is that they will work day and night to overcome these obstacles And they have really brilliant people mathematicians computer scientists analysts They will over time be able to make up for the ground we've lost but it's gonna take time

1:34:23 Now, the next thing he goes into is cyber mercenaries which I never heard of. But cyber mercenaries and if you listen to this clip carefully you're going to...there is a message in here which I'll explain after he's done talking but Rose starts leading him a little bit but this is a very...in fact, I think Olson wants to get this point across twice so he says it. definition of a mercenary is someone you hire to go in and who has no affiliation political or morally, and just go in kill these people. Right, and I think he's using the term properly here. When you look at the power of cyber warfare and then you think about governments and you think about people in private sector that are related to governments and all that... It's a powerful threat it seems to me. And then you ask yourselves what if it came

1:35:17 within the possibility of the kinds of groups that we have talked about for most of this conversation. Right, it's a really important question and we spend a fair amount time within the counter-terrorism community talking about have we seen a cyber capability among these groups? Look I mean they're dead set on coming after us if they had that capability They would use it. They would deploy it against us and we know the power of cyber attacks, you know again now going after financial institutions like the one you mentioned and how vulnerable we are and how reliant we are on these systems that are internet based

1:35:57 But at least right now, Al-Qaeda and these groups don't have that capability within their means. That's not to say they couldn't develop them or that they couldn't recruit or pay somebody who does have the capability to act on their behalf. And that is what is really different when you go into Mosul and empty the banks and sell oil what they are doing as well selling oil That's right, they're quite sophisticated. They're selling oil... What do they say? A million or so dollars a day! Then you can afford a lot of very sophisticated computer equipment. Right, or even easier to pay sort-of a mercenary cyber attacker to carry out an attack

1:36:36 So, you know one of the it's a one way is to try to figure out who they are and where they are And and stop them there but the other important part of that is to increase our cyber defenses here in United States and and You know particularly in types of industries and sectors that are really important to our way of life from banking to energy Kind of like and so that's another part of what say has been involved in I worked on when I was at MSA interesting now what he said in subtext to me was there's going to be a cyber attack done by a cyber mercenary. He brought it up twice. Yeah, imminently and he used yeah and he used the term twice

1:37:13 I think there's going to be a new initiative about cyber mercenaries. They're gonna start going after people that could be cyber mercenaries, and that includes the tech community we have currently working. It includes dudes named Ben! It includes dudes named Ben and it includes the sysops out there...I think they're all gonna be targeted for spoo- first uh...they're gonna be targeted at to be spied on which is a good portion of our audience And you should keep an eye out, you out there who could be targeted. You should keep an eye out for it. You're going to see it because they're gonna start... Because there is going to be an event obviously or he wouldn't have said it twice

1:37:53 That's going to involve a cyber attack that will fend off and it's going to be initiated by Cyber mercenaries because these guys as he said even though they're quite sophisticated They can sell oil on the open market somehow we can't for some unknown reason. We can't stop that I don't know why and that's selling him, but if it's not like they're standing on a corner Hey, who wants to buy some oil? No. This is done in... it's all electronic. It's all on the computer. On the oil markets and they do business we can put a stop to it easily because this bull crap And we have gas now at $299 a gallon in Texas Good for you But I haven't seen that and that can only be explained by the oil flowing

CHAPTER 20 / 34 Discussion

Bowe Bergdahl Exchange, Heroin Trade in Afghanistan

The exchange of Bowe Bergdahl for five high-level Taliban prisoners in Gitmo is discussed in the context of the Afghan drug trade. The hosts suggest the release of these individuals, particularly those involved in drug operations, ensures the continued flow of heroin as international forces withdraw from Afghanistan.

bowe bergdahl· taliban· gitmo· heroin· afghanistan· doha

1:38:38 Well, it also was backed up quite a bit to jack up the prices for summertime. Summer driving, you want to jack those... Now there is a short bit here. This is the Bergdahl commentary that this is that now I'm looking at everything this guy's saying at this point along with what Rose is telling him to say if you notice Rose is leading him a lot yeah, yeah This will be the official commentary about

1:39:17 Bergdahl incident. That reminds us who Bergdahl is for a moment. Bergdahl was the guy who deserted his company in Afghanistan to join the Taliban, and he went over there and they said you're not joining us you're gonna be our hostage or possibly it was a spook that went over there to have that exact thing happen to him, we don't know And then they traded to get him back four extremely nasty terrorists that were in Gitmo, including the guy that used to run the drug operation in Afghanistan. My suspicion was they put that guy back in play... Keeps it rolling. Keep the drugs going. They wanted to keep the drug thing going and there was a quid pro quo saying you run the drugs we'll take care of the middleman operations. Interestingly enough, there is a report

1:40:02 and I think it was Council on Foreign Relations, I don't have it. I'll see if I can find it for the show notes that said specifically they expect heroin to be flooding the streets of the United Kingdom now that the forces are pulling out of Afghanistan but of course isn't...it's because they let the guy go who is in charge of the operation. Yeah, operations. You cranked up we weren't doing a very good job ourselves. We're trying by this way citizens are happy Cheap horse come on. What's the problem? She or is there really nothing at this? Two other things one is Bergdahl when we made exchange from Bergo We took five people from Guantanamo and went and sent them to Doha right then that bother you

1:40:43 No, I mean... You're the counterterrorism business. You work with people who make terrorist acts? Yeah so yeah i'm always concerned whenever there's a potential for another terrorist being out there and these guys were transferred under pretty strict controls and we're in position to maintain that. To monitor them into law. It's hard argue with getting American back ever hard argue with that It's hard to argue with that. Hard to argue with that, but it was just a great deal. Meanwhile there is this guy stuck in Mexico who we don't do anything about. Don't even talk about him? No and he could be taken care of with one or couple phone calls. Alright so we have a couple more. There is the report on Benghazi I want to save because its too long but he was kind of interesting

CHAPTER 21 / 34 Discussion

Khorasan Group, Aviation Targets and Intelligence Narratives

Matthew Olsen identified the Khorasan Group as the most significant immediate threat to the West due to their focus on aviation targets and sophisticated bomb-making. The hosts point out that the group's Wikipedia page was created only recently, suggesting the "Khorasan" name is a manufactured label for veteran Al-Qaeda members in Syria.

khorasan group· al-qaeda· syria· airstrikes· matthew olsen· aviation security

1:41:31 It just was a weird, and I used the word there but it was a strange moment that he went on and on about. Because Rose's question... Of all the places where you can play long clips our show is this so if you feel like... We'll save that for last because i want to play this one first which is there are two of these Corazon ones. Horizon? Horizon. Now this is the Olson report on the Horizon group out of the blue that we talked about a couple shows. A Horizon Group? Are they now being... That's what I put on the clip. A partnership, oh okay. I just want to make sure you play that clip first. One of the groups that has been in the news lately is the Horizon Group. Right right. They've talked a lot about that. They received an air strike and they evidently have some plot against it. He talks like its an Amazon Prime package!

1:42:18 they received an airstrike. They received an airstrike and it's part of a plot, some unknown plot! I love it they received an air strike hey honey did you receive the airstrike yet? We're expecting one One of the groups that has been in the news lately is the Coruscant group right talked to A lot about that. They received an airstrike and they evidently have some plot against the United States, right? So this active plot yeah And this is a group right here we've been following this group for a couple years This is a group area half there not ISIL they're not to sit their different from their old al-qaeda aren't they are veteran Did he say old al-qaeda yeah, they're all al-qaeda by so I get that in there's apparently got a talking point thing you gotta get down guy dimension it Oh

1:43:00 Al-Qaeda. Old Al Qaeda. They are veteran al-qaeda guys out of Pakistan and that region who have moved to Syria because of the permissive environment in Syria, taken advantage of their relationship with al-Nusra really to provide sort of cover and support but the issue there is that they have had an external focus they are not focused on Assad or the regime in Syria. They are focused on carrying out an external attack and that was what we saw against the United States and the West, um...and that plot we saw progressing the impetus for the strikes there. Now, so that when you ask me Charlie what worries me the most it's in the last several months it's been that group because of their sophistication and their focus on the West and particularly United States. And then Wikipedia page started September 21st yeah just like a month ago this not less than a month ago this page shows up Bullshit!

1:44:02 Now, he says that the airstrikes were aimed at these jokers and he also says... At the very end he says what worries me most is this Horizon group. That's what he says. He says, Charlie asked what David... Now this is the end of a very long conversation that I cut the middle out of because it was going to go on forever and i want to play the beginning of this clip about what worries him the most and this is what he says at the beginning of What Worries Me The Most? And it turns out to be something else so he lost track of his own talk that's why charlie had to be there This guy could not keep a steady thought. What worries you the most

1:44:39 Hmm well what worries me the most has been The we've talked about it. Do you know sort of the aviation targets that groups like a QA P have shown an enduring interest in? At the beginning it was yeah, no that's not right answer and the targeting of planes with bombs, scotch bombs. And then Charlie goes on and leads him back to where we're supposed to be talking about which would worries them the most is the horizon group. And her head is gone that's funny yeah so I've got a kick out now if you want to hear the Benghazi thing this is sure this is where he goes

CHAPTER 22 / 34 Discussion

Benghazi Controversy, Matthew Olsen and Charlie Rose Debate

During his interview with Charlie Rose, Matthew Olsen struggled to explain the administration's shifting narrative on the Benghazi attack. While Olsen claimed the intelligence community immediately recognized it as a terrorist act, he failed to reconcile this with the public focus on an anti-Islam video, leading to a confusing exchange about the definition of "sophisticated" attacks.

benghazi· matthew olsen· charlie rose· susan rice· cia· terrorism

1:45:17 Charlie brings him into the, and Charlie being a journalist should be better than this. He says what was all the fuss about? Why is everybody who gives a crap essentially is the question I said that again sorry it was the question that he asked and it's like why is he asking us okay let's listen to the official response the guy really can't answer the question and we're still out there still you know in the dark about about the Benghazi thing except for the thesis that The No Agenda Show has which was a failed kidnapping that was screwed up by dual operation when the CIA was doing something at the same time. Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi And finally... Benghazi Now you laughed! Back it up

1:46:03 Because now it's time for the big bullcrap. Which is a serious question whenever and whenever then that they know something if they're not discussing but let's just do the bull crap for the people here and finally Benghazi Why is this such a controversy you think I mean did administration failed to say clearly and specifically this was a terrorist attack. Tell me about the sexuality, it's in your DNA for whatever reason?

1:46:43 I think you have to ask other people why it's such a controversy. It's been something that I've wondered myself, within a week after Benghazi, I was in an open hearing and I said this was a terrorist attack absolutely they shot mortars at our CIA annex in Benghazi right? So you knew instantly from Washington DC The night it happened I was on a secure video conference led by the White House All the security team was on that conference call, video conference. We all were treating it as a terrorist attack there was no sense this is anything other than that now we did have multiple upwards of 20 different reports from the press and from

1:47:28 Social media and classified sources some type of demonstration or protest you remember this was after the release of that video That video yes, that was a really frightening insulting video the Video he actually this is again an example bring something into it has been completely debunked debunked a million times. Yes, but you bring it back into play as though it's true and that people don't never heard this is shut up moment. There was a protest in Cairo and there were protests all over. That's right. Protests everywhere. This the New York Times said this is true. It's fact. Bill Maher said this is true. It's fact was in fact the case. It wasn't until sometime later. And of course, Chris Stevens

1:48:15 He died of smoking elation, according to Eleanor Clift. Not of being dragged through the street and being sodomized with a broom handle and killed in a horrific way None of that is mentioned ever. No, there's pictures of this later that we learned that in fact there hadn't been a protest but the protest point was sometime later me well I think it was within about a week or 10 days before we had certain information coming in but I'm confused so having my confusion one you said we're all sitting there like the night of the attack yeah and we're all saying this is a terrorist attack

1:48:52 I mean, we absolutely treated it as a terrorist attack. We didn't even have to articulate it Charlie. It wasn't something that needed to be spoken of. Hold on a second! You didn't have to articulate it? No But they all knew it was a terrorist attack. They never said it was or he said earlier, he said is the they said we said it was a terrorist. I said it was a terrorist attack then they didn't have to articulate it so his story's falling apart and also there's a timeline issue here and this is where Charlie calls time out to reset this character So he can you know talk get back on the right timeline? So the explanation goes through he did he this is a fail by the way Oh, yeah doesn't explain anything And it doesn't work that laughs

1:49:32 And we're all saying this is a terrorist attack. Yeah, I mean which absolutely as the terrorist attack? Yeah, I mean you we didn't even have to articulate it Charlie wasn't something that would need to be spoken We treated it as...I mean there was the National Counterterrorism Center and we were involved in working on it right so Right then why did US government go out saying this was a terrorist attack Frankly, I don't think it was really a question that we considered to be an open issue. And so it almost struck me as when I was asked that question in that hearing of well, of course there was a terrorist attack now not all terrorist attacks are the same. That wasn't the language Susan Rice used

1:50:09 Yeah. Once you're paid on the Sunday... Reset! I mean, again not all terrorist attacks are the same You know there are attacks that take months and months of planning And are sophisticated But this one was not sophisticated There's still no indication that it was planned But it did not arise from a...? Apparently there hadn't been a protest We thought there was a protest and in fact there hadn't been but... Earlier we said we didn't think there was a protest This guy needs to go away for a long time. He's retired. And so, getting into your initial question why the controversy? I really don't understand the controversy over that. It is a pleasure to meet you. Yeah it is nice to be here Charlie. Nice to meet ya. Good luck in the private sector

1:50:50 Thank you very much. Yeah, I'm gonna get fucking rich motherfucker! You're leaving a very exciting life behind... Well yeah well i'm going to stay engaged in these issues To get even richer? Get richer?! Just a little bit at Harvard Law School next semester and then I'm gonna Then I'm gonna go GET RICH! And I'm going to find some more people who can keep me connected to these issues Good thank you. Thank you very much. Hey suck this douche Anyway, I got a douchebag me do you? bag but douche bag All right now. I get to play it douchebag okay well yeah, I got bunches of douches bags on my list But I think it's what it's not a bunch of douchebags It's a it's a is the gaggle name for that. It's like a gaggle of douche like a bush fuck of douche Yeah

CHAPTER 23 / 34 Discussion

FBI Search for American Jihadis, Dutch Ruppersberger Interview

Congressman Dutch Ruppersberger discussed the FBI's efforts to identify an American with a "Midwestern accent" featured in an ISIS recruitment video titled "Flames of War." The hosts argue the video is a fake production and criticize the use of biometric and facial recognition claims on a masked individual.

fbi· isis· dutch ruppersberger· biometric analysis· flames of war· propaganda

1:51:40 A murder of douchebags, no you don't want to hear this. It's not good." Well this clip is horrific and it is Brolf with Dutch Ruppersberger and it also a long clip... That guy for awhile! He is the worst that guy! But he is the chair, he's democrat He's the chair of intelligence something or other. What is he? No, no he is the second to the chair of the republic I think Dutch is a in there as the House of Representatives because Feinstein's the Chair on this Senate

1:52:20 I'm just gonna run by the Democrats and then on the Republican side Yeah, he's the house the house run by the Republicans And so I think that works with is the ranking member of the House permanent select committee on intelligence Let me see who was on that fellow DJ up-and-coming up-and-coming disc my Rogers but and he gets pulled in It was just mind boggling. What do you make, first of all of this guy that the FBI now wants with his North American accent as it's described? Do they have any clue who this individual might be? Well we're trying to get information and what is really positive about the FBI putting this out... I have the intro to this story clip that will set this up perfectly Yeah but i'll play it. From Megyn Kelly?!

1:53:12 Uh, no. No I don't- Megyn Kelly... Brown nosing or the FBI asking? The FBI asked. It's alright. By developing tonight, the FBI has put out a new plea for the publics help in identifying what may be an American who appeared in a recent ISIS recruitment video We first brought you this video on The Kelly File less than two weeks ago Listen to the man speak We're here In the 17th Division military base just outside of the city of Arraqa And we're her with the soldiers of Bashar Mm-hmm. Aaron Harriger chief intelligence correspondent is live in Washington Catherine come on or CIA mole Yeah

1:53:54 Megan, since we first reported this story for your broadcast we've learned that a biometric and facial recognition analysis. The evidence points to an American likely from the Midwest... He's got a black mask on! Facial recognition? A Canadian has not been ruled out. A law enforcement source says other leads were pursued before the FBI made the decision To post this ISIS propaganda and launch the tip line if... We need to post the propaganda yeah Yeah, that's why it's called propaganda. This terrorist is confirmed to be an American It will be the first documented case of a US citizen engaging in a mass execution for the ISIS terror network Stop right there I watched this flames-of-war 55 53 minutes of this thing did you see this? No Bullshit

1:54:38 At the very end, this guy ... So they have these so-called Assad fighters digging their own grave. and then they're kneeling in front of the trench, and they shoot them. And it is fake John! It is again...it's fake! They fade to black they come back now you can find online people being shot where they're kneeling down on the back of their head. You see blood spurting out the front and when they are on the ground their face is gone none of this

1:55:17 none of this. This is another fake video look at the very end of this video no one was killed. Nice voice so we can make a big stink out. The FBI wants tips from the public on any American who is traveling overseas to join terrorists and you'll remember Megan that propaganda video flames of war also included the voice of a second man with a North American accent yeah, yeah I got that audition but I didn't get it seasoned investigators tonight question whether ISIS may be learning from its mistakes. It's now widely reported that the executioner first seen in this horrific video of journalist James Foley's murder is a British national and the new tapes may be doctored to shield the terrorists.

1:56:01 Now all of this is very strange because Mr. Comey, our banker former military industrial complex douche knuckle extraordinaire who says right all the time he was very clear about the American jihadis How many Americans are fighting in Syria on the side of the terrorists? In the area of a dozen or so Do you know who they are? Yes Okay knows who they are But yet we don't know who they are because... We either know who they are or they don't know. Well, hold on! Hold on! I think of that a dozen or so I do. I hesitate only because I don't know what I don't know. That is just- this is our government's- What? This sounds like a Tom Hogan! Yes but everybody is now saying this. I don't know what I don't know. This could be one of the most important things

1:56:55 that we don't know, that we don't know. Right? There's the stuff you know you don't know and there is the stuff you know you know and there is the stuff you don't know that you know And, but the most destructive can be this study to paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld. The most destructive could be the stuff that you don't know that you don't know because I don't know what I don't know. This is so ridiculous. You ran out of center field and caught a ball over your head with my eyes closed and one leg strapped up to my butt. Great catch! Thank you So we're going to hear that a lot

1:57:31 Now let's go back to Brolf with Dutch. Out to the public, we're trying to get any information or tips that we can to try and identify this individual Remember ISIS is out there recruiting... Remember! Remember! And when they can recruit Americans... This guy is good because he didn't say don't forget He said remember and when someone says remember you remember You know you could ask him, wake me up in the middle of night and say what is ISIS doing? I'll say recruiting FBI putting this out to the public. We're trying to get any information or tips that we can, to try and identify this individual. Remember ISIS is out there recruiting and when they can recruit Americans or Canadians who have American or Canadian passports those individuals can go to Syria or other places in the world

1:58:18 and come back to the United States. And if they haven't broken the law, all we can do is monitor them." worry about, I guess. To make sure that they're not planning an attack here in the United States. So they're looking at his eyes, they're looking at his voice, and trying to do some recognition but i take it... They really hope maybe someone who's watching and listening to that voice seeing that image might be able to provide a tip? That's right isn't that right congressman? Isn't that right? Isn't that right? It is in the script! In the United States we have said over and over if you see anything unusual

1:58:56 that call your local police, call your state police. Call your FBI and that's what we're seeking He is not doing it right! If you see something, see something I don't know he messed up on that information and hopefully it will make a difference You know as it happened in the Boston bomber It happened in the Boston bomber The guy is now incoherent It happened in the Boston, but what happened in the Boston bomb something in his butt unusual That call your local police. Call your state police call your FBI and that's what we're seeking of that information And hopefully it will make a difference you know and listen to this subliminal because they've got the video of this guy in the background if You hear the I like bar and all this crap going on in the Boston bomber We needed to identify those individuals and we got tips and information and then

1:59:44 helped us identify those two individuals. Ruppersberger with with broth they sum up everything the whole every bull crap saying I think we're seeing a lot of this on the different networks We just saw with Charlie Rose. They're trying to send out a consistent story for the public Yeah, we don't know what we don't know The teenager if you will if you Chicago area was arrested at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport over the weekend suspected being a supporter of Isis

CHAPTER 24 / 34 Discussion

ISIS Funding and Domestic Threats, The Dirty Dozen

A Chicago teenager was arrested at O'Hare Airport for allegedly supporting ISIS, sparking a discussion on the "Dirty Dozen" Americans fighting in Syria who hold U.S. passports. Congressman Ruppersberger claimed ISIS has a billion dollars and sophisticated social media, while warning that the Khorasan Group is developing plastic explosives that can bypass TSA screening.

isis· o'hare airport· passports· visas· khorasan group· plastic explosives

2:00:28 What can you tell us about this individual? Do you know, for example how he got $4000 to buy a round-trip ticket from Chicago to Vienna and then on to Istanbul. I love being suspected of being a supporter of ISIS How did he get 4000 hand jobs?! I don't know all those details. What i do know, it was really good investigative work done by our locals and our FBI to monitor individuals that were concerned uh they want to do damage in there and get ready he's going to go all out now hurt the United States as a result of the information and evidence because he is American because we had to make sure that we were able to get that evidence in order to arrest him but this is just an example what concerns have no evidence

2:01:16 evidence they did nothing wrong. They have evidence to arrest him because he bought a round-trip ticket which of course was used to confuse people because one way ticket is clear. It makes sense code stupid we know we have 12 Americans that are in Syria right now this is the messaging being trained and working with ISIS those individuals can come to the United States... Oh why don't we call them The Dirty Dozen That'd be cool. ...states with a passport and unless they've broken the law, all we can do is monitor them This is a big concern to all of us in the intelligence community... And this makes no sense! They arrest people for selling raw milk Are you kidding? Oh, unless they do something wrong, we can't arrest them What- when did this start?! When did we start respecting people's rights

2:02:07 Yes, no sense makes those sense with what's been going on No It does not fit because it's a lie really about that this type of threat I assume though those 12 individuals the FBI law enforcement United States knows the names of those twelve Individuals right there are twelve that we know but there are other ones who were concerned that we don't know Oh We don't know. Well, we don't know. We don't know. We just don't know they don't That's why we have to be vigilant. Listen to this and he throws in an aloha bar in the background while he is talking about these what we don't know, this is nuts! We're concerned that we do not know and that's why we have to be vigilant. The guy... Terrible! background.

2:03:09 arrested yesterday in London. We're getting everything, this is a perfect roundup. Suspected of being ISIS supporters and supposedly according to a whole bunch of reports planning on publicly beheading individuals in the United Kingdom. Because it works so well in Australia! Can you tell us about that? Well, it's the same scenario. Oh! That's right! Scenario written by script writers. You know the Brits we work with the Brits and our other allies... What is this Brits? Hey Brit! Hey you Brit! ...to get intelligence to try to identify these terrorist groups that want to attack us and by the way it's not ISIS. Hold on its not just ISIS now let's just broaden the field. Isis really focus more in where they are now in Syria and Iraq We're concerned about other Al-Qaeda

2:03:57 that are really focused more seriously right now. Let's hear, we need to write this down I'm confused now! I'm not supposed to be afraid of ISIS? What am i doing?! Attacking the United States right away but you know what when we identify and we use the intelligence were able to try to stop them in the meantime we have to realize Isis has close to a billion dollars they have... They have a billion dollars John! Isis has a billion dollars Just so you know that. That's news to me! And remember, remember ISIS has a billion dollars let's listen again. We're able to try to stop them but in the meantime we have to realize ISIS has close to a billion dollars they have social media They have social media John! We're lost! We're screwed! They have social media and a billion dollars

2:04:43 If Facebook has more than that... Especially the Canadian jihadis, they don't have no passports. They burned them! From Libya or other parts of the world you need to be able to have a visa that get into these different countries but when we have a passport you don't and that really concerns us all as far as terrorist groups are concerned. Which is a greater threat? Whoa whoa whoa back off What? So you're telling a Dutch that I can go anywhere I want if i have a passport but and if I don't have a passport, I need a visa. That's not the way it works!

2:05:34 passports so they can go back and forth to their countries without being noticed. You know, if you come from Libya or other parts of the world you need to be able to have a visa that get into these different countries but when we have a passport you don't. That's not true in any way! That's correct absolutely right he is cutting it short I think what he is trying to say is that you can...if you are German national as an example You can come back into the country with a passport, not needing a visa if you're a Libyan national. But he's just rattling off words at this point. Yeah, you're probably right. And that really concerns us all!

2:06:16 Let's just wind it up with the final thing that Brolf needs to promote in this Smith-Muntt propaganda. Which is a greater threat to the US homeland, Congressman right now? ISIS or this Al Qaeda spin off called The Coruscant Group? Oh, here we go! Now what should the answer be?! Oh, well this is a tough one it seems to me. If you're going to ask what he's gonna say here I'm gonna have trouble answering but i'm gonna have to go with the litany that everybody else is saying which is the Corazon group is much more dangerous. The Corazon Group is very serious we have no evidence at this point or let's say intelligence We have no evidence of- I mean intelligence oops At this point that ISIS is ready to attack us You are right! Corazon groups within the month or so A month or so

2:07:04 But oh, let's wait until December I guess are concerned about groups like Corzine who do research and development who are trying to do they do research in their Company they work for Microsoft bombs Plastic bombs that they can put in iPhones. They could I'm sorry there were crap hole they can put an iPad Bombs you get put it in a night You can't even open an iPhone. I'm caught I'm calling it right now the new iPhone 6 plus It's filled with plastic explosives. Yeah, perfect size That's why it's so big and they should be confiscated They can pass through a TSA and not be to be identified And then I love his technical jargon listen about going back to boot your phone when you get on the plane No, you already have to do that. I did boot my laptop. Okay? Well I had

2:07:52 When we're done with this clip, I'll tell you my recent airport experience and experiment. Corzine group is very serious We have no evidence at this point or let's say intelligence at this point that ISIS is ready to attack us within the month or so. We are concerned about groups like Corzine who do research and development who are trying to develop bombs of a danger and ISIS clearly has to be stopped. But on the other hand, these other terrorist groups I think are further ahead in their plans to attack the United States. ISIS is still in that region and holding land even though they're threatening everybody but that's also to recruit other people

2:08:48 their desire to take over that area of the world and we have got to stop them and smash them. Smash them! We have to smash them, we've gone from degrade and ultimately destroy to just smash them. Yeah, smash em'. Eric DeShill came up with an interesting thesis about it you know the honeypot theory in more, you know at a different level. Which is that you have this guy that can you identify this madman who's got the mask on with a North American accent? And then the conversation goes... You call in and he said yeah I think I know who it is okay your name is

CHAPTER 25 / 34 Discussion

Australian National Security Legislation, ASIO Surveillance Powers

The Australian Parliament passed the National Security Legislation Amendment Bill, which grants the Australian Security Intelligence Organization (ASIO) expansive new surveillance powers. The law allows for the targeting of "any device" and "any object," including clothing and vehicles, while imposing a 10-year prison sentence for journalists who disclose special intelligence operations.

australia· asio· national security legislation· surveillance· rfid· whistleblowers

2:09:24 And you know him how? Heard him say this when? Then you have the knock on the door. Well, now what is interesting is that now we have to look at the global spectrum of what is taking place and This ultimately comes down to control of the citizens. And this is going, we're playing a backdoor strategy I believe in the United States which will come through net neutrality and that's how laws about how certain content will be deemed unlawful, but it's all in the legislation. It's all in the rules. Our show will become unlawful." But... I think it's a possibility. ...but something... but in the United Kingdoms of Gitmo Nation East and in Australia which blew me away! I need to play this little clip for you. This is from Parliament in Australia

2:10:22 A bill, and I have it marked up so i do want to read just a few pieces from this. The National Security Legislation Amendment Bill Number 1 of 2014. A bill for an act to amend the law relating to national security and intelligence services and for related purposes known as ASIO, the Australian Security Intelligence Organization passed both houses uh...and for all intents and purposes will become law in Australia. Australia What happened to you? What happened to you? Where is Crocodile Dundee?

2:10:57 How could you let, first you let them take your guns away and then well just listen to some dissenting words in Parliament. Now the media has made understandably the media has made much in recent days of the notorious section 35 which would make it an offence punishable by up to 10 years imprisonment for a journalist if he or she was to disclose a special intelligence operation But that will have the effect of shutting down the media. It is clearly overreached by the security services who've been basically invited to write an open cheque and the government, it wants to beat its chest and look tough on national security said we'll sign that! And the opposition who's desperate to look just as strong on national security said we'll countersign that cheque too

2:11:46 even though no one has actually made the case that there's even a requirement for such a measure in this bill. In some ways, this is a distraction from the fact that our heightened security environment is a result of us helping to start a war that has run for 11 and half years that has fomented more turmoil in the Middle East and caused more angst within our own community. Perhaps to distract us from the fact that we were until recently giving broad diplomatic support to the Syrian rebels, which included the Islamic State

2:12:25 And now all of a sudden, the Islamic State's gone from being one of the... I think to quote the Prime Minister or words to the effect of the Prime Minister. One of the goodies to one of the baddies! I mean this is outrageous! This is absolutely outrageous! Well you're all screwed here we go Section 4, insert into the Australian Security Intelligence Organization Act of 1979. An ASIO affiliate... so now they're expanding their group means a person performing functions or services for the organization in accordance with a contract agreement or other arrangement that includes a person engaged under Section 85 and the person performing services under an agreement under Section 87. This means that pretty much anybody can be brought in as a contractor, and automatically be protected as an ASIO affiliate, be protected for being...you cannot out these people which goes back to this gentleman's earlier point of the media not being able to disclose this. Then we have

2:13:26 Interceptions. The interception of a communication where the interception results from or is incidental to action taken by an ASIO affiliate in accordance, so that could be anybody...in accordance with the contract that could be with a phone company agreement or other arrangement under which the ASIO affiliate is performing functions or services for the organization for the purpose of discovering whether a listening device is being used So they can check to see they can listen to your communications It's being listened to, which is great. And determining the location of a listening device... They really have gone all out on this! They have added transitional provisions for the Telecommunications Interception and Access Act of 1979 where they have terms and definitions that you understand what's going on I just want to give you the definitions

2:14:20 where they can... okay, communication in transit so they could eavesdrop on communication and transit inserted definition means a communication passing over a telecommunications network well bingo boom shakalaka definition of computer means all or part of one or more computers or one or more computer systems or one or more computer networks or any combination of the above that would pretty much be the internet A device which they are allowed to eavesdrop on includes instrument apparatus and equipment, enhancement equipment.

2:14:59 An identified person's warrant, where they can install the definition of installation of a listening device includes attach and apply. Listening device definition any device capable of being used whether alone or in conjunction with any other device to overhear record monitor or listen to sounds signals or conversation or words spoken to or by any person in conversation but does not include a hearing aid they're not going to bug your hearing aid. Good news, people or similar? Why did they even put that in there? I don't know that that's concerning like a sore thumb does or similar device used by a person with impaired hearing to overcome the impairment and permit that person to hear wow! That didn't really like when i marked it up

2:15:43 And then surveillance device means listening device, optical surveillance device or tracking device. Or a device that is a combination of any two or more devices mentioned in the paragraph and a device prescribed by regulation for the purposes of this paragraph Australia has just gone all crazy Gitmo police state That sounds like to me. What can these devices be attached to? It can be attached, attached to any object and object definition means vehicle aircraft vessel or other means of transportation or clothing or any other thing worn hello RFID tag or see any other thing anything! Anything! Your dildo could be spying on you

CHAPTER 26 / 34 Discussion

UK National Crime Agency, Keith Bristow on Digital Freedom

Keith Bristow, head of the UK's new National Crime Agency (NCA), stated that British citizens must reduce their digital freedoms to remain safe from organized crime. The NCA supersedes local police forces and works closely with intelligence agencies, a move the hosts compare to the "backdoor" implementation of net neutrality rules in the United States.

national crime agency· keith bristow· uk· gchq· snowden· net neutrality

2:16:32 Sorry, Australia you need to revolt. I'm disappointed Disappointed and then beaten down like everybody else now let's go to get my nation east this is Mifficant what was the word? Morific morific thing if akin to I'd like mificant horrific This is Keith Bristow And somehow we missed this the United Kingdom's of Gitmo Nation East they started a new division called the NCA, which is the National Crime Agency. And these guys supersede everybody else

2:17:23 And they are... Scott Linyard? Yes, the Scotland Yard has to answer to them. Now they've replaced the Serious Organized Crime Agency and this thing became fully operational one year ago almost exactly 7th October it is a non-ministerial government department and as a part of this they have the Child Exploitation Online Protection Center They have UK border agency reports into them. Organized crime, human weapon drug trafficking cybercrime these guys really are at the top of the stack and I don't know how this happened How do? Oh I do know Theresa May submitted this back in 2010 and these guys popped up and this Keith Bristow

2:18:15 in this piece which I think the Guardian interviewed him, is literally saying Britons must reduce their digital freedoms to remain safe. Wow! The office that I hold... the responsibility- the key responsibilities expressed in law and it's to secure efficient and effective activities to tackle serious and organized crime And my job is to secure that response How do you like being known as Britain's FBI? It's not a shorthand that I find in any way offensive. I'd love that by the way, it's not a shorthand i find in anyway offensive

2:18:58 But it is fair to say there's some pretty significant differences. But actually as a shorthand... Yeah, you don't have to follow any laws! ...to resonate with the public for it's a national agency not a local police force There are some similarities and if that helps explain... The National Police? Zeke Hile?! That's the worst thing you can have. Because I need the public to understand who we are and what we do When you in the next few weeks, months with the commission of the Metropolitan Police with other police chiefs with others from other bits of law enforcement come to ask for new powers hasn't the public every right to say given what we know given what leaked out why on earth should we trust you? The public are right to always question and challenge. What leaked out? Snowden

2:19:45 The... What do you think it was Snowden that he's referring to? The GCHQ, yeah. He actually comes back to that. Yeah. Okay. People who have been entrusted like me and my colleagues with very significant powers. Very yes! Very significant powers If we seek to operate outside of what the public consent too That for me by definition is not policing by consent Now the consent is expressed through legislation because we operate within the law I think we have to explain very clearly the case to the public, it's for legislators to decide and we operate within the law. If you don't have consent however you want to define having that consent is it therefore wrong to continue with those greater powers?

2:20:25 Yes, and consent is expressed through the process of legislation by politicians who have been elected to represent citizens. Yeah and how's that working out citizens? So whatever the legislation says that is what we'll do. My job... What yeah? We can play that clip but we don't have it but they could that woman that used to work for Hillary explained everything's gerrymandered rigged and cross-rigged there's no public isn't represented at all exactly I will not and have not lobby for anything. I will, and need to be better at explaining why this is important in the world that we live in." Well here's the problem of the context you're operating in Snowden happened and we have found out that there were powers nobody could've consented because they were kept secret and they were capabilities nobody consented to cause they were kept secrets and denied which are absolutely their

2:21:19 But of course, we're not an intelligence agency. We don't operate in a secret way. We often have to operate covertly." What? They don't operate in a secret way they operate covertly! Is that what he said?! Yes listen to it. It's great. Absolutely there... but of course, uh, we're not an intelligence agency. We don't operate in a secret way. We often have to operate covertly I'm sorry Secrecy meet covert. You're the same thing we operate within the law to enforce the law Communications data is evidential for us Yeah, it's a different context if he saying were not an intelligence agency We're just here to protect your freedoms because of the law ma'am That's what he's saying you are giving advice what do you sing nice? To those who made those decisions

2:22:11 Would you say, actually fair enough you had to keep that dead secret and keep the public out of it? Or would you say actually you've made things difficult for us when we need these powers and could have explained it to the public. Look, the agencies in this country do a fabulous job at keeping us all safe The people who lead those agencies are people for whom I have highest regard They will be making judgements within the context of legislation about how it is that they need to exercise their powers to do their job effectively. They're the people to ask about that, but these are top quality people doing a fantastic job. Has it made it easier or harder for you and your colleagues who are in command this right now and who needs to have these powers right now? And one more fairly shortly

2:22:57 to make that case to the public? Well, let's be clear. Let's forget what the agencies have all allegedly not done. Yeah let's just forget about that! Just wipe this slate clean. Don't look over there The Snowden revelations have damaged public confidence in our ability whether it is law enforcement or intelligence agencies to access and use data in an appropriate and proportionate way It has damaged it If its been very damaging how come your agency in its first year has been able to be a success It hasn't crippled the ability of law enforcement to do some pretty impressive things. Because the public's asleep and the politicians are just doing whatever we tell them too? No, but it is also fair to say that some of our capability is challenged very significantly challenged So new powers coming to Gibbon Nation East

2:23:46 and you're allowing it people. See Americans, somehow we still go oh that's not right but hey man that's not cool dude so we just backdoor with net neutrality everyone is all in on change your icon. Change your icon! Oh my goodness and people please know that it's not really the security agencies or intelligence agencies that are spying on you. It is your commercial companies who now are agents, like the ASIO bill we just read they are agents of the intelligence agency they are indemnified, they get to share Facebook of course is doing this and we know the FBI has an office right in the Facebook campus Adobe now of course spying...and Adobe spies on everything

2:24:33 Yeah, everything. Flash all of this stuff goes in they have what is it? Omniture right omniture where everything they sell they sell intelligence based upon omniture tracking to government agencies It's one of their services and now oh yes well They're spying on the e-reader duh Well You by reading my comp, what is that? I would say that the six users of the Adobe eReader should be pissed off. And they should be arrested for using the Adobe eReader! I never heard of the Adobe eReader! Me neither...

2:25:14 Yeah, I don't know what they're talking about. It's just pathetic! But i'm so disappointed in Australia my goodness... yeah they're done that is really really really wrong I hadn't-I just was not expecting that I was not expecting that. But have no fear because, you know it's America! It's America We are the ones who will protect the world That's our dubstep version You like it? Yeah, it's very good We're just filled with groovy stuff

CHAPTER 27 / 34 Discussion

Congressional Lobbying, Family Connections in Washington

A report highlights the prevalence of immediate family members of congressional leaders, including Joe Biden and Harry Reid, working as high-paid lobbyists. Former Speaker Dennis Hastert's son, Joshua, is cited as an example of a lobbyist who gained significant access to Capitol Hill despite having little prior government experience.

dennis hastert· trent lott· harry reid· joe biden· lobbying· capitol hill

2:26:01 We got lots of stuff. Should we do more or you want to take a break? I think we should take our little, well before we go to the segment where we talk about our helpers and generous listeners and producers let's play little things just so everyone is kind of in the mood by playing the lobbyists and officials clip. Former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert, who had a son who became one of the highest paid lobbyists in Washington DC. He had very little if any experience in government his previous job was running a pizza place and running a record store in rural Illinois

2:26:40 Everybody knows he got paid in the high six figures because his father was Speaker of the House. And if you wanted access to the Speaker of the House, you better go through The Sun." Joshua Hastert told The New York Times that he would never trade on his father's name even though his firm promised clients that he had long-standing relationships with numerous offices on Capitol Hill And the Hastert family isn't alone. Current and former congressional leaders like Trent Lott, Harry Reid Tom Daschle Joe Biden and Tom DeLay all had immediate family members working as lobbyists while they were in office We have no connections! we have nothing going on compared to these kids This is why we're doing a podcast

CHAPTER 28 / 34 Discussion

Producer Credits, Gamergate, and Knighting Ceremony

The final donation segment includes a mention of a "No Agenda" reference in a Tony Bennett and Lady Gaga song and a brief discussion on the Gamergate controversy. The show concludes with a formal knighting ceremony for Stephen Dean and CJ Cobble, followed by birthday wishes for various listeners and a final "Adios MoFo" sign-off.

gamergate· tony bennett· lady gaga· knighthood· value-for-value· donations

2:27:32 And that's why we need help from our audience. We have people to thank for helping us, in fact we have quite a few today including Ben Hink in Orland Park, Illinois with another one of my favorite. One two three four five nice he says aiming for night who hasn't made it yet he would like a deducing we can give it we'll do a joint deducing for everybody at the end I'm gonna good mood today! You've been Deduced

2:28:16 to know that we read on the air the full notes of executive and associate executive producers, but to them... leave enough time for what we do, we read everything but not everything on the air under those levels. And nothing under 50 for anonymity reasons mainly. But that's a rule. Which one to do? Also Hassan Maynard or Hassen-Maynard 12345 in Bayshore New York... I think you missed Christopher Dolan And then 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 from Christopher Dolan in Berlin Connecticut. Yep! And Hassen wants us to do a de-douching and karma for all listeners... No! We do not de-douche. There's too many douches out there as we hear from our the people that throw douche bag comments at other people. Nope nope. And he calls himself out is a douchebag but then he wants to de-douche this it's just not the way it works

2:29:13 One, two three four five and again it's a record of one two three four five. Nice! Just for Dame Andrea Garnier in Rocky Mountain House Alberta Canada She said she almost drove off the road a couple of times when she was laughing so hard Oh with the yeah-yeah guy Sir Upper Decker And the Ebola bus for the homeless Well, I'm glad you find our comedic styling so entertaining. Yes it's very comedic we're a laugh right let me give you a little aside here So JC Buzzkill Jr and his wife go back to Michigan because their father is ill Oh i'm sorry And he has been trying...he's like a negative Nelly

2:29:56 And he she tried to get and he's like all right wing. He's not good You know Glenn back you know the guys in with all these guys, and so she tries again to listen No agenda show and he listens a couple of shows for a couple of shows yeah? And he says no now that show stinks those guys are too optimistic Dollars gonna collapse next week We're all gonna die oh this is no wonder he's ill Yeah, this is one of the things we do with our show. We try to make people healthy by getting them out of these mindsets but no... And realizing it's very comfortable ill and realizing it's all just blah! It's just words and propaganda and fear-mongering and fear porn. None of it is real like Ebola. Oh I'm sorry where are the thousands of dead people? But we'll get to that later. I have something to show you that's gonna make it onward yes please.

2:30:52 Covel, in Parts Unknown mentions that the 123.33 is a donation number which is the executive order, 123.33, which we have not promoted. 12-333-123.33 is the executive order which really all of these outfits... Everything's based on it. Now he has something else here at the end which I had pre produced. He says Interesting thing I came across while listening to some music today on Tony Bennett and Lady Gaga's new jazz standards album, Cheek To Cheek. There is a distinct no agenda reference on track eight Firefly at the very end of the song Bennett shouts in the morning let's listen. That was pretty clear. He shouts in the morning that was exactly what he did! That's pretty clear to me. Let's listen again. Tony Bennett hey welcome Tony

2:31:52 Nice there's nothing no reason to say that unless you're unless you're a listener Yeah, anyway. He's done this nine times the one two three three three and now he said night He'll be perfect or John Knowles in move for his move freeze borough I never can pronounce that correctly Marifix is a pronunciation distinct pronunciation for that town in Tennessee 11111 Mysterian Entertainment, LLC. $100 from Los Angeles. Read Adam and Callie's surfer voice. In the morning dudes of the multiverse karma for my board game ZonePlex in the Kickstarter campaign I'm running for it at zoneplex dot net

2:32:37 Enchanter Tim came in from Houston, Texas for $100 and he sent a note in and guess what? You can't find it. It's at the other desk. At the other desk! Oh then I get to play an interlude. Okay I'm back. Back That was The Beatles. Did that sound like a song? Yeah it was The Beatles It was what Beatles I feel fine. Yeah, he says a huge cover-up in game news and what game news? Oh gate oh Justice Warriors are coming out of we talked about game gates yes We did yeah thing anyway He says his phones were hacked tapped and hacked and employed to silence me

2:33:22 My family was pressured by several neighbors to say I was imagining mind control raids. Ah, okay yeah I saw that. I changed my car transmitter from 88.3 to 88.1 and verified signal jamming was targeting a line of sight...and something. I can't read it So he's being attacked? I guess He says it needs to get out. Search the Quinnspiracy or Gamergate because no mainstream media news is reporting the truth." Well, that's not entirely true... Although yeah no that is correct they're not reporting the truth yes its indoctrination and shows you really what showing was just how bogus mainstream press is. Can I say something?

2:34:07 The mainstream media never reports the truth. What difference would it make if it's this or something else? Really, wake up and step away from the gaming console! This has been going on for a while But now it's hit the gamers. Yeah, that's true Houston could be the gases there at $100 sir Thomas Nussbaum in Virginia Beach, Virginia 9876 Thank you and Calls everybody a douchebag who doesn't donate Sir Scott Fuller coming Georgia 7777 these are 7777 is it to help us celebrate? Saga sevens like a seven Stacy st Amand in Kingston Ontario Canada

2:34:44 Aaron Murphy in Rio Rancho, New Mexico. Brian Barrow dot com in Royal Wooten Basset, Wilshire UK. Gregory Ball in Atherton Manchester we had a couple of UK people that's nice well they're in trouble there that's why they should be helping us out let's I agree with that Megan Bourke in Grandview, Ohio $75. She wants to get a marriage on the 1011 if you could de-douche Troy so I don't have to marry a douche bag." Oh is that what she says? Oh yeah! We'll do it right now why not? You've been de-douched. That's nice send a picture

2:35:34 So we'll give you some karma at the end. It will be for you. Jonathan Diggle in Winnipeg, but now you're not marrying a douchebag that's the plus. Who needs karma? Jonathan Diggle in Winnipeg 6960 Signsir E-I-E-I-E-I-N Ian Prentice in Montreal, Quebec. 5983 Alan Adler in Rolling Hills California 5959 Kevin Dills and Charlotte North Carolina by the way Ian said Sir Ian of the butchered name Yeah nice uh-huh Thank You eat yeah I on I on Kevin deals in Charlotte North Carolina Michael asked folk

2:36:20 in Berlin Deutschland 5033 and then these are $50 donations from Elizabeth McReynolds Griffith we had a birthday coming up for her also for John by the way Diggle's got a birthday too yeah and then whoops there it goes I'm gonna am here my car in Lancaster Pennsylvania 50 these are all fifties David Pete Aubrey Texas Jan van der Laan in Austin very good renter 30, Holland 50. Eric Dutro in Flint Michigan, the Flint Michigan and finally Steven Winslow in Bristol

2:36:59 So we had a lot of UK, and then we want to thank them profusely. That concludes our producers for the producers that help us produce the show in mass for Show 659. We want to thank them all profusely and everybody else who came in with lesser amounts we don't want to mention too... A lot of you are on monthlies. Then we're seeing now more and more people breaching knighthood status because the show has been on air so long Yeah, on the air like I'm some old radio. That's kind of a year yeah I mean it go when it comes to the speakers It goes into that yes on the air and that's true. Yeah through the ether And it's nice to see that though did CJ call did he have a name? He wanted for his knighting let me see No, I guess not just wants to be a night okay, that's good um yeah Thank you profusely we are very very happy

2:37:57 Thank you for your courage. Thank you for contributing to the best podcast in the universe it is the only way that we can keep this show going and You seem to want it and that is the essence of our value-for-value model Devorah org slash 34 on tomorrow Rob Cox It says happy birthday to his stepfather-in-law Marvin Britton of Bellevue, Nebraska who turned 43 yesterday. Jonathan Diggle and Sir Ian Prentice say happy birthday to Ryan Newdorf celebrating on the 11th and Elizabeth McReynolds Griffiths says happy birthday to her boyfriend Brett Barney! Send pictures and happy birthday from all you buddies here at The Best Podcast in the Universe! And here's the karma for everyone who requested it bend over it will feel good! You've got karma.

2:38:52 And grabbing the blades, our swords for two knightings today. Come on to the podium Stephen Dean and CJ Cobble both of you have contributed to no agenda in the amount of $1,000 or more and therefore we welcome you to The Table Of Rounds with Knights & Dames and I'd like to pronounce thee right now Sir Steven of Oswego and CJ Cobble, sir. CJ night at the Noah dinner roundtable for you gentlemen hookers and blow rent boys in Chardonnay girlfriend experience a good bourbon bad science perky breasts opium and warm orange juice three gashes in a bucket of fried chicken hot pants and booze gaseous and sake Bach and vanilla bong hits and bourbon or if you want mutton and mead go to no agenda nation comm slash rings pick them up and Good to see y'all in y'all

CHAPTER 29 / 34 Discussion

Adobe Behance Talent Search, Tom Leykis Podcast

Adobe is launching a "Talent Search" feature for its Behance community of four million artists, aimed at commercializing the process of finding creative talent. One of the hosts also mentions appearing on Tom Leykis' podcast, which resulted in a significant influx of new listeners and mailing list sign-ups.

adobe· behance· photoshop· tom leykis· austin· artists

2:39:39 Here in the been text for a while. I have been y'all yeah, I've been y'all thank you all very much y'all Thank you all thank you we do want to thank y'all because y'all was good as good good Good well, I wanted to talk about my flight daily Please do so I had a guy did it with their speck my lips Did you know I did you that you were there for the Adobe conference? Yes, did you feel spied on while you're walking around no not really was it up wasn't anything awesome and No, no. They said it was a lot of awesome but they didn't see a lot of awesomeness But there was good I do have a column coming up because there's something that they're gonna Do which i think is going to either? It's going to be it's gonna Dislocate part of the artistic community I believe can you talk about this column well yes There's if they have this thing called B hands oh

2:40:26 Which is a B hand? And this is what Mickey should join and I think this will solve her problems about having the local guy because once she's in B hands, she'll find about 40 guys that are superstars in Austin Texas that can really do whatever it is she needs to do with Photoshop. B-H-A-N-C-E? I think so. Okay, Behance. Yeah the Behance community... Sounds like they had a meeting and they agreed on something dumb. A couple years ago some kid that started this and it became very popular, Adobe bought it and the Behance community is four million artists Oh wow! That post everything they do in show and this is one of those smart money art directors go join as Behance and try to find these guys that can use for

2:41:09 for art and now they're changing something called, they're developing something called the Behance Talent Search. I see it right here on the website. Start a talent search okay? And the talent search is now going to commercialize finding artists that are maybe... You know not known at all and the argument is simple. It's that if I want a really good artist, I don't need to look at his bio I don't need to know as education I think because much of his art is aside cuz that's because I want to get does this kind of order there So you got comic book artists on there? You got fine arts she got in all these different kinds of artists. Oh, it was really good B hands oh, there's a there's a flat line above the e

2:41:49 Yes. It's a bah-hunt, maybe it's ba-hunts. Beehunts. Whatever the case I went there...I also did Tom Likas' radio show for two hours as a podcast show and we picked up at least 200 new members of the mailing list which means probably about 2,000 new listeners which i want to say hello to here yes and i got several emails saying hey man John said you live in Austin let's hookup I'm sorry about that. That's okay, it's well known That's how i knew you were on the Lakers show because i got those emails hey can i have lunch with you um no Yeah No, please do not bother adam i'm busy should have said that on the show You could always say anything to me Farmer's market in Berkeley uh can i have one? No no you're at The Celebrity i am just a farmer's farmers market saturday that's where you can bug Farmers yeah you'll find him there

CHAPTER 30 / 34 Discussion

Airport Boarding Pass Experiment, SpaceX Falcon 9

A host describes an experiment at the Oakland airport where he swapped a TSA-marked boarding pass for a clean one at the gate, proving the security scribbles are largely performative. The conversation shifts to SpaceX's plans to land a Falcon 9 rocket on its legs, which the hosts dismiss as old technology similar to the 1969 lunar module.

southwest airlines· tsa· boarding pass· spacex· elon musk· falcon 9

2:42:40 So I fly out of Oakland and do this experiment because i've been wanting to do it for a while. boarding pass. And I got to the airport, you know with plenty of time so i printed out a southwest boarding pass at the kiosk because with Southwest or any of these places you can print out as many boarding passes as you want So I went to the security person and she took the boarding pass which is the one that I printed out from Southwest of the kiosk and there writes an X in a circle and a line in a checkmark And they write all over the damn thing. No well, they do that you've been there They grab your potato make they scribble on your board, and it's always different as I said no rhyme or reason Yeah Sometimes is a box with an exit It's zero when a one they circle the flight number Circle the gate then do a sign kind of a half signature? And then they shine the blue light on it which always makes me feel very safe

2:43:41 So I go up to the gate to get on the plane and i just swap out the boarding pass with the one that was the printout from the computer. Ah, they did not have the approved writing squiggles on it? It's clean as a whistle uh-huh And so what do you think happened immediately alarms went off and it was oh i was like attention attention boarding gate 15 we have non-squiggly boarding pass stop him is that what happened No, no I don't have the buzzer but uh... No. What really happened? Nothing happened of course So all that bullcrap they go through with the thing is... Well, I always suspected that because it's never the same. It's always like you know and i would think that the idea is to make it look like they got some codes on it. Let me tell you how I know that it's bull crap because I see people going through showing their phone with their boarding pass on the phone. Oh! The phone thing by the way no one's squiggling on your screen to approve it

2:44:42 I wanted to warn people not... What are you drinking? What are you drinking? I'm sorry. It was water, I drink water. Okay. I just want to know if it's whiskey or just water. No, no. I wish. I would say that there wasn't a case in Oakland for some unknown reason and I didn't never see anybody use the phone in Oakland where you'd think there'll be a lot of people using the phone but on the way back from Los Angeles, there were a lot of people using the phone. There were four of them which is a lot because I don't see that much. And two of them got pushed aside and they had to go through a rigamarole. Don't use the phone. It doesn't it's like asking for trouble really I've never seen people go through no problem That's interesting one person was and it was hanging up everybody else You know you got to bring a supervisor over something about Something about something it was like there was a dot after someone's name on yeah, well, that wasn't on the you know The ID didn't you show your idea? And it didn't match the phone thing and I don't know it was ridiculous

2:45:43 But I didn't get any pre either way, which is kind of annoying. But it was the lines weren't long if you take a two and three o'clock in the afternoon flights You're in pretty good shape to get in and out. Yeah, but I have a question for you just then just a question Space X this is that hypesters a party yeah, yeah, so they're one mug yep And they're talking about how? Morific it will be that, and I think this is going to happen next year. They will be able to land a Falcon 9 rocket on its legs

2:46:26 So the idea is you this thing takes off then then you save a hundred million dollars by reusing the rocket part Because I guess it's not the fuel. It's just that the rocket part it lands its on his own legs and everyone is just oh my god This is so amazing It's so fantastic He's making it land on legs Didn't we do this with a lunar module in 1969? Why is it such a big deal?" Well, they didn't land it on Earth. Oh so there's a little less gravity Yeah But that should only... you only need to compensate that with more thrust They're making this sound like it was just... This is old technology if I'm am I wrong? No! You're correct This can be and has been done in the past Alright yeah exactly mm-hmm

CHAPTER 31 / 34 Discussion

Ebola Outbreak Narratives, Thomas Eric Duncan and Hospital Glitches

Following the death of Thomas Eric Duncan in Dallas, reports surfaced of a "computer glitch" that prevented doctors from seeing travel history notes. A listener who is an ER nurse clarifies that the issue is actually a poorly designed electronic health record system that is so difficult to navigate that medical staff frequently bypass it.

ebola· thomas eric duncan· dallas· cdc· rick perry· electronic health records

2:47:18 That was my point. I don't know that this...I would think that the fuel necessary to do this is going to cost more than whatever money you save by reusing it's module. I don't know, man! Because it takes gonna take as much...it's like a bullet, you know? It goes up in the air and comes down at the same speed. Yeah. This thing has got to have...I mean, it's gonna be coming down fast and you're gonna have a lot of rocket power to stop it And then land it, you gotta tweak it. I just don't... Here's my prediction, I'll put in the book! This isn't gonna work! Alright time now! Ebola is scary and wretched and miserable It is gross! And you die from it! Ebola Okay, I've found a couple of things out A couple of things we need to talk about Yeah your guy died Well let's start with that This guy keeps dying

2:48:11 Because he was dead last week. He was dead on Sunday, then all of a sudden he died yesterday I have reports when he died on...I have the...I have here Yeah this guy keeps dying Here October 5th Thomas A...this is from I think Reuters? Thomas A Duncan Died in Dallas Hospital Maybe that stories about the zombie is true No it's It didn't work. No one... I think he died and then something else happened, the word didn't get out because the way they made it sound is like he died Wednesday. Okay But going back to the fourth that he is dead so if the guy keeps on dying fine Fine fine fine Let us first go to the President of The United States

2:49:03 and listen to his speech on Ebola. I have some questions and some comments. I'm sorry, but I should point out that this was a presser and he's sitting there with everybody in with the Dempsey right next to him because of course is Ebola and it says a huge very scary frightening thing now is as a little off Mike unfortunately but he said what's Dempsey doing there? But this is a whole-of-government approach John And it's just well you'll find out Across administration so apparently we have other administrations now, I think if the second Obama's involved That's a giveaway running the country Now

2:50:01 Epidemic. I need to stop here, words matter this is not an epidemic the definition of epidemic is that the majority of a population has this disease it's not an epidemic and would you agree with me? I don't know if your definition is correct that half the people have to have something. No, well... But no, it's an epidemic. Okay? It's an incident. Characterized by very widespread growth that is an epidemic according to Merriam-Webster. The computer model says it's going to be an epidemic. Exactly. To stop the epidemic at its source in West Africa but also make sure we're doing

2:50:46 To prevent an outbreak here in the United States. To prevent an outbreak? These words are very interesting, outbreak brings up movies and stuff let's find out what this is about Mr President This is not just a matter of charity Not just a matter of charity Obviously humanitarian toll on countries that are affected once death is extraordinarily significant This is an issue about our safety It is also an issue with respect to the political stability and economic stability of this region. Political stability of the region! Oh, right, with mics or cameras for God's sake... I know. This about the political stability of the region? Oh yeah. Aw hello freedom coming! Hello Freedom & Democracy! Globalization on its way! So it is very important for us to make sure that we are treating this in the same way that

2:51:40 national security threat. It's a national security threat, we're treating it this way. It's not a national security threat people that is not Ebola does not fly through the air. The lady puked on the plane between Midland and Dallas they landed the plane to throw her off she didn't have a fever she just threw up and oh land the plane someone's throwing up I never heard of anybody throwing up on a plane. It's fucking idiots now Oh, but this is about the political stability So what do we need? I don't know UK join in and Britain too is significantly increasing its response The aviation support vessel RFA Argus is being deployed to West Africa along with three Merlin helicopters

2:52:22 to provide critical support to medical teams and aid workers. Ebola treatment centers will be established along with the training academy too in all some 750 military personnel will be sent to the region. 750? The disease is an unprecedented threat that knows no borders No, yes it does but it's not crossed over into all of the countries there It seems only being certain countries where there are a lot We have to get ahead of this disease, but if we get ahead of it. If we rise to the challenge, we can contain it and beat it. Yes, we can contain it and beat it now. The president said something else which I received some feedback on from our global intelligence network.

2:53:08 in terms of what happened in Dallas. We don't have a lot of margin for error, the procedures and protocols that are put into place must be followed." The patient who now apparently has died... Darby maybe dies tomorrow. Or he could die again, yes. Showed up at the hospital and there was a computer glitch! Do you recall? There was a flag we titled our show that. It's always a glitch. Adam & John says Andrew I live about four miles from the hospital where the now deceased Ebola patient was housed it's the same hospital my kids were born in My neighbor is an ER nurse at that facility And had treated the patient a number of times prior to his death today

2:53:47 She had some very interesting insight into the glitch the media were reporting on last week about the doctor not seeing notes from the nurse and letting the patient go after his initial visit. She is an ex-programmer turned nurse, a girl named Ben so she knows software systems well. She described this system that is used as being quote something that was built for the back end with little to no regard for the average user who operates it on a daily basis She described the program as being very deep, it takes information about the patient and parses it to proper databases but for the user to access that information you have to wade through huge spreadsheets of data.

2:54:24 For a nurse or doctor, you'd want something with intuitive UI that would almost replicate the old paper charts where the display would replicate something like a Facebook news feed. So what does this lead to? She said the program is so difficult to navigate takes so many clicks to do simple tasks doctors and nurses just get frustrated and bypass it all together Yes! So they call that a glitch Bull crap as usual As usual That's a great note. Very interesting what I'm seeing and what, I mean...I'm seeing a shift. I'm seeing a move and let us first take CDC Director Frieden This is something he said on the Hill. I will say that in the 30 years I've been working in public health The only thing like this has been AIDS And we have to work now so that this is not the world's next AIDS This is very interesting

CHAPTER 32 / 34 Discussion

Ebola Vaccine Development, Rick Perry and Texas A&M

CDC Director Tom Frieden noted that the experimental drug ZMapp is in short supply, shifting the focus to vaccine development. Governor Rick Perry appointed Dr. Brett Giroir to lead a Texas task force; Giroir previously oversaw a $91 million vaccine manufacturing center at Texas A&M in partnership with GlaxoSmithKline.

zmapp· ebola vaccine· rick perry· texas a&m· glaxo smith kline· brett giroir

2:55:25 This is something that goes back to your original analysis like AIDS. Okay, now let's listen to Frieden who was taking the conversation in a new way in a new direction You said that we've run out of this experimental drug called Z-map Correct That was used to treat two Americans who had Ebola Is there going to be more of that and where are we on vaccines? Well, there will be more ZMapp. Unfortunately it is difficult to produce a lot is being produced right now It should be ready in a month and a half two months We're not gonna get it tomorrow or next week a vaccine to prevent Ebola we have started a vaccine early phase one trial and

2:56:07 in the NIH in Bethesda, Maryland on September 2nd. Twenty volunteers we should have data as to whether or not it's safe very soon probably by the end of this calendar year and then will go into a larger trial in West Africa And, oh! In West Africa we'll go into a trial. Now this is very interesting... This was his overall message on several of the news shows Let me ask you about drugs We know there are some experimental drugs Some of them have been used to deal with the early US relief workers that got infected early on during the beginning of this crisis Is there signs of speeding up that process so these drugs are available faster quicker and either be used both in West Africa or anything here?

2:56:50 The drug pipeline is going to be slow, I'm afraid. The most promising drugs ZMapp there's more of it and it's hard to make It takes months to make just a bit so many people are working on can that be accelerated? We're also looking at vaccines and there are a couple of promising vaccines that are already in initial trials And if those were available we would be able to use them for health care workers and potentially in other places If they work So we've got to figure out as quickly as possible whether they work So, Governor Perry here in Texas which is the center of the Ebola outbreak in the United States. Yeah yeah yeah. Yes. The guy died. Hello yeah guy! He appointed Brett Giroir MD as the man-in-charge now of the task force

2:57:45 that will help us stop Ebola dead in its tracks. G-I-R-O-I-R, Brett Giory Very interesting this gentleman because it was a year ago in March When Rick Perry was at Texas A&M and this is what he announced. And it is my pleasure to announce that Texas A&M has been selected for a cutting-edge vaccine manufacturing facility, a 91 million dollar center that will help rapidly develop and manufacture vaccines to help combat... What?

2:58:26 influenza outbreaks all around the globe. Not only will this keep more Americans safer from an epidemic, but it'll bring more than 40... Yeah money and jobs Here's the announcement Governor Rick Perry was joined by Texas A&M System Chancellor John Sharp and Brett Giroir and GlaxoSmithKline to announce this facility So the guy who is put in place only a year ago to run a rapid vaccine development corporation and laboratory with plenty of money is now appointed the leader of the task force. And we hear that, well drugs is not the answer... Vaccine is the answer! Vaccine is the answer! So there's two things happening one apparently there's going to be a vaccine

2:59:22 And I want to ask you, because i've asked several people this. If the government says we have an Ebola vaccine will you line up to go get it John? No! Okay and what if they mandated because of the national... You won't need to. Now I'm seeing the fault... What are people saying when you say this to other people? No, across the board no They won't take the vaccine? And I said what if your kids can go to school? I'll homeschool them People are afraid of this and they're going to see lots of vaccine noises coming up We're gonna hear a lot about that and now here's what it here's what is being used for This is what took me a little off guard and I thought oh of course

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Flu Shot Promotion, Vox Media Native Advertising

Health officials in Maryland and outlets like Vox Media are using the Ebola scare to urge citizens to get flu shots, claiming the flu is a more immediate threat. Meanwhile, Monsanto and the U.S. government have invested millions into Tekmira, a company researching Ebola treatments, as its stock price skyrockets.

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3:00:06 Of course, CBS package. Well the Ebola threat it continues in to be a real concern for people overseas with 932 deaths and more than 1,000 infected but health officials right here in Maryland say the flu is a much bigger threat to people right here in America as Mary which is true Allah reports It should be on everyone's radar as we head into fall Flu season is months away, but this is the time to start thinking about it according to city and state health officials. How old is this clip? This is brand new John! It's not months away, it starts in October! This is a brand new clip Okay. It's months away, January... I'm just telling you! It is not a serious disease and it is really very serious. Thousands of people die every year because of the flu With the Ebola outbreak dominating the news Maryland health officials are trying to redirect attention to the flu an actual direct threat to people living in Maryland We have tens of thousands deaths from flu every year in the United States

3:01:06 And so imagine the amount of attention that's been spent on the Ebola virus in the news compared to the amount that's spent on flu. So health officials are urging people to get the flu shot this fall, reminding us that influenza is easily transmitted by air unlike the Ebola virus. If people want to do something to protect themselves after they hear a scary story about Ebola they should figure out how they're going to get the flu vaccine. That'll do a lot more to protect them this year because flu is going to be involved It is going to be in Maryland. Each year up to 20% of the US population gets the flu more than 200,000 are hospitalized and The flu season peaks in January or February but it can come at January or February whatever early as October And remember if it takes about a week or two for the fluid to start the flu shots not working I love that flood

3:01:55 before the flu start, I mean the flu shot starts working. Then Vox, Vox Media the people who evidently oh voxes they got great stuff Oh vox media yeah millennials a bunch of shithead shills And then this woman is the editor. I am going to get a flu shot like every adult American should this flu season This is native advertising paid for by the American Flu Shot Association or something like that my insurance card ready to get a flu shot You should get a flu what? That's we should if just not doesn't exist We should start it Everybody should get a flu shot unless you have some particular medical condition that would prevent you from getting this is a native ad isn't it

3:02:33 Yeah, everyone's into this particular... I can't get it. God. The last time there was a survey 58% of Americans didn't get flu shots. Stupid! Flu shots are usually really cheap if you have insurance its probably not going to cost you anything just bring your insurance card very important If you don't have insurance How can you not have insurance? You have Obamacare Usually they're in the 15-25 dollar range Flu is very contagious and sometimes we have really bad flu outbreaks. In 2004... I can't take it anymore, you should watch that in the show notes. I shouldn't! No you should not okay now my question so there's a definite push towards vaccines vaccine for the flu shot and there's no forget about

3:03:18 any kind of medication for Ebola, it'll be a vaccine. And I have to say John, I'm very worried about the mandate if not a mandate there will be people walking around like zombies going If you're not vaccinated, don't come into my house man. You might have Ebola." Oh man you threw up man! You gotta get the vaccine!" This is out of control and people have been completely mind controlled... Well you said yourself that nobody wants to get the vaccine everyone you've asked. Yeah who am I? Am i asking Obots? I should

3:03:55 Yeah, you should be asking Obaas and the ones that are freaked out. Now we have 3,000 and an additional 500 so probably three-and-a-half to 4,000 combat troops in the region I'm sorry military. I shouldn't say combat troops And then we asked General David Rodriguez who is from AFRICOM at the Pentagon So what are these guys doing? What do you think they're doing John? We got a whole bunch of guys and gals over there being in fatigues. in camouflage, camo flak jackets. They've got little... They're building little huts for people. Pretty much no one is going to be interacting with the Ebola patients that is now the new information General will any US military personnel be involved uh..in the direct treatment of any Ebola patients or in the training that healthcare givers will they come into contact with any Ebola

3:04:55 Ebola patients. No, now the mobile labs are different but no for the majority of the force. No for the majority of the force if I could play the whole clip but no there's going to be five people who are going to be directly involved and the rest is just sitting there... Guarding oil wells just in case According to um The World Bank Ebola could cost the West African economy 33 billion dollars That's my proof. I don't need to hear any more now, I know you see where that's a good catch market watch in your watch 33 That's funny shares of tech Mira which is the company who should be making the Ebola virus cure share skyrocketing Monsanto invested 1.5 million dollars in two months ago into Tech Mira and an April

3:05:50 They were awarded a $140 million contract by the government for Ebola treatment research. So it seems like it was, you know... I don't think we heard about this in April did we? No no just coincidence possibly just coincidence and now in Europe Spain has killed the dog because they believe The dog had Ebola and got it from the dog's owner, and half a million people have signed a petition. Who gives a crap about humans but a dog? Oh! You can't kill the dog! Don't kill the dog!"

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CNN Liberia Video Analysis, Common Core Math

A CNN video showing a child collapsing from Ebola in Liberia is criticized as a "fake acting job" with no evidence of actual symptoms like bleeding. The episode concludes with a critique of Common Core math standards that prioritize "reasoning" over correct answers and a final sign-off from the hosts.

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3:06:28 Now just to show you how bogus this thing is, and again people you're only hearing words. You're seeing nothing! We are seeing a bunch of people in yellow rain slickers with ski goggles on and now you're starting to see one or two real hazmat suits John go to the following URL And I want you to look at the CNN showing us an Ebola patient, a kid. A poor kid with Ebola now what do we think Ebola looks like? Give me this URL! No no...I'm going ask you first if you have ebola what would that look like? I've not seen a single person puking. Well it would look like is you'd be bleeding out of your eyeballs and ears. But i haven't seen people sweat

3:07:15 But all I see is tents with rain slickers and ski masks and people drinking water. Go to itm.im slash EbolaKid, one word And then look at this video It's Inside Liberia's Ebola Crisis And tell me what just narrate what you see on the screen Okay i'm watching now CNN inside Liberia's ebola crisis No audio because this was recorded at Starbucks Did you see what happened? The kid, the kid walks... Okay here comes a kid wandering down the street. Yeah, wandering down the street. He looks right and then he drops down and lays on the ground it looks very healthy

3:08:04 And he just laid down for no apparent reason and looks like he's out. Does he look like he is throwing up or bleeding from his eyeballs? No, no! He was a healthy looking kid walking down the street looked around... He did actually look left and right to the ground and then went into fetal position as though he had been on the ground. Come on! Come on, this is not Ebola. So somebody took the video from a Starbucks I get it. Of particular interest is the scam nature of this video which was most clearly shown at the end where a kid supposedly dying of Ebola obviously falls down in the most incredibly fake acting job ever so there's no audio this scam nature of this video is perfectly preserved Isn't that great? Yeah its very funny

3:08:55 So just tell me, where have you seen any evidence of this epidemic? In Dallas. No! There's no evidence whatsoever there is just none. There is no visual evidence. A million will be dead in January. 1.2 million I've heard. There is no evidence of this whatsoever This is a hijack of the it's as the president said political stability We've got military in there. We've got the UK with 750, well with a whole ship." We have the clips early when this thing began of people in these countries saying this is a hoax! Well they're dead can't be talking about that and I'm sorry do not take a vaccine when it comes out. Well nobody's gonna take the vaccine? Oh we'll see

3:09:46 There's these memes, they start to pull it together. Ebola! It's the ISIS of viral... Let's play that again let's play that again this is what people are being inundated with you're being... Dr Alexander Garza is the associate dean at the St Louis University College of Public Health and former medical officer at the Department of Homeland Security. Dr Garza, if I may because that is a bit of a chilling analogy that it's the ISIS of infectious agents. Come on! I think you made your point about this. Alright, then i'm done as we go into our fourth hour! I'm sorry well now you're mad at me all of a sudden? Oh no but I think you know you've made the point about this two or three shows ago and you've been making it again and again but I don't think you need to replay that clip

3:10:35 which I think you've made your point. And you're gonna stick to it, and I think it's a good point because there is no evidence except computer models again like global warming that indicate there's anything really going on. God, I don't know maybe somebody has Ebola? I'm not sure and the guy died in Dallas and got me. I haven't seen anyone bleeding from their eyes. It seems that you want to get people frightened. You wanna show them something. Exactly And by the way in the ears. Oh bleeding from your ears? Yeah, and you're spitting out blood I mean it's blood coming everywhere as lovely but also I don't even have evidence of that oh wait. I'm sorry It's too shocking We can't show that they're not shocking to show the kids in Gaza getting blow their heads blown off bingo boom shakalaka No there. I think I think our show today was a little over-The-top with media bashing

3:11:30 Well, what else are we going to do? This is the healthy news diet. All right let me bansh the educational system then. Here's a local Common Core curriculum director who explains exactly what is important when teaching kids the Common Core way But even under the new Common Core, even if they said 3 times 4 was 11. If they were able to explain their reasoning and explain how they came up with their answer really in words and oral explanations And they showed it in a picture but just got the final number wrong

3:12:11 We're really more focusing on the how and the way to be correcting them. I know how to do it teacher. Three times four, I take four and then I have four and then I take another four because I know there's a numbers got two digits so that's eight And then I add three yes, and I get 11 and that's the answer is good mm-hmm Yeah, well we did this Gates again. It's very disturbing yeah but that's very disturbed about this and but you know you have a lock on the media by paying for everything particularly public media and no I know why people should be supporting our show with with contributions to keep this show telling you what we discover by just

3:13:00 Going one step or two steps often beneath the surface of a story and finding the same douchebags And many times their agendas, and why they're doing it and nobody else even comes close to doing what we do I mean. I'm thinking for a second no Nobody you couldn't you won't think you can think all you want now III really tried for a moment there nope No, not a single one. Which I believe from the beginning, of course when the sheriff didn't say come in and surrender yourself Instead said we're gonna get ya! Yep. Which is not what law enforcement does unless they have some grudge or something else is going on because that's not the way you act if your professional Exactly Well it's good to have you back at home base. I'm glad you made it back okay John That's all good Oh I did Yeah Thank goodness Oh I got complaints about

3:14:19 this trip. And the main complaint I have is that the Burbank Airport, one of the cutest places in the world has now moved a car rental location at the airport about a mile and half from the airport and you have to walk to it. Oh no! No, they used to be able get on a shuttle, they took you some place and you got your car and drove off. Now it's um... They've screwed it up Anyway, coming to you from FEMA Region 6 in 2014. In the morning I'm Adam Curry Yes 2014 is exactly what year we're in And I'm from northern Silicon Valley and actually in northern Silicon Valley where it's getting a little foggy today I'm John C Dvorak We'll be back on Sunday So please remember us at dvorak.org slash na Sunday right here on CNN

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