Double Twister

00:00 I think you've- I didn't quite say, I think you've outed Tim Cook! Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. And Sunday, June 29th, 2014, it's time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, episode 630! This is no agenda. Prepping my go bag for field day here in FEMA Region 6 in the Travis Heights hideout in the capital of the drone star state. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where it's sunny and fine, it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood. I'm John C. DeVore. Really? Just because Google's not being friendly to you, you gotta phone it in? I'm phoning it in. Hello, Adam? Yes, hello! Hello, I can hear you. John! Yes, yes, hello, what's up?

00:46 Are you phoning it in again? I'm phoning it in. Hmm. I wonder where that originates from. Probably someone who phoned it in. It's supposed to be somewhere and then they called instead. Where are you? How come you're not here? So what's your problem today? We're late. We're starting late. This is not like you. Google? Yes. There's something going on, I think. Either that or it's Comcast. But which is possible, but the Google just wouldn't take these clips. It said yeah, yeah, yeah, it's funny. You know, I actually then change browsers. I went to Chrome. I said, try you take the clips, please. I said, yeah, a little bit more. I think it's not going to be anything I'm doing priority. I feel better now to Chrome browser. I feel more comfortable. It's more like a part of me.

01:34 Yeah, well, as the designated IT person in department, better known as a dude named Ben here around the house. I sometimes too have to catch myself and realize that yes, even the Googles or the Facebooks sometimes just don't work properly. It's not always something else. I think there's something you mentioned though that should be reiterated which was, is it possible that the API release that Google did for its mail system... Yeah, it's Gmail API. Yeah, that could be screwing stuff up. It could be a bunch of guys. I mean, what's the first thing that happens when an API is released? All the hackers in the world go, huh, I want to know how you screw up the system. Yes, it's called pounding the back end. They're pounding the back end. Dude's name, Ben, pounding the back end. I would have, please. I've got to rhyme. Dude's name, Ben, pounding the back end. There you have it. This is, this has been quite. That deserves an in the morning. We're not, you're not giving enough of those punches.

02:38 Well, what I need to do is put a whole thing together. I think his first name may have been Ben. Oh, a guy named Ben. A dude named Ben. Dude named Ben. We have a whole segment. Yeah, we got a whole segment later today. Curiously, his last name is Dover. Oh, oh please. Dude named Ben. Okay, here we are. It is Sunday the 29th and today we have the Netherlands playing Mexico. Well, they should be able to take the Mexicans down. They're very worried about it. I can tell the Dutch are pretty... I can tell they're worried. Mexicans held the Brazilians, and they hold them to do a nil-nil tie. Yes, nil-nil. Now, what's... Nothing is exciting to me as a nil-nil game. What's interesting... You pay big money, you go there, and the score is nil-nil. As we find out that, of course, we have... Is it now two... They're 20 minutes into the game, and it's nil-nil.

03:42 Are you watching the game? I just clicked on this thing and it's giving me a... No, I'm not watching it. So now the New York Times all of a sudden is taking our theorem for predicting the winner of the World Cup. I'm not kidding you. New York Times headline. Why you should root for Nigeria or Brazil, Mexico or Ghana. And then they iterate our basic thesis? Yes. But they never say that it's rigged in favor of one of those countries winning. Well, the basic principle is simple. Drawn from utilitarian principles, root for the outcome so that will produce the largest aggregate increase in happiness. This is exactly our, you know,

04:23 You know, it's the basis of our theory. Yes, it is. So Dean Carlin says, I came up with a simple index calculated by a country's passion for soccer multiplied by its average level of poverty multiplied by its population. It's perhaps a bit crude simply to multiply these factors by each other, but the exercise highlights some important truths about the world. Now, of course, he does not mention the fact that this is all rigged. But he does say, you know, these are the countries that you want to win. Now Nigeria, I think, Nigeria is not important anymore. We don't even care about those girls. I mean those girls came and went in one week. Was that in Nigeria? Yeah, the Nigerian schoolgirls, the Boko Haram schoolgirls. I forgot all about it. Gee, so did Michelle Obama and her husband.

05:10 Now Brazil is obviously top of the stack. Mexico? It has to be. Otherwise they'll burn down the country and ruin those stadiums. This is not even an issue here. The Brazilians are so mad about all the money they spent on this and then the Olympics. Something was pointed out to me that I don't watch this show, although of course I have in my life. The Simpsons that an entire episode on the World Cup, well not entire, but you know one of the plots of this episode, it was just this was March 30th so just a couple weeks ago, and in this particular

05:48 episode, Homer is approached by the football league to become a referee so they can bribe him and he can help Brazil win the World Cup. And you know, The Simpsons had predicted weird things in the past. You know, like 9-11 stuff and there's all kinds of theories around what the creators of The Simpsons may or may not know about the Illuminati. Here's the setup of this particular episode where Homer is approached. Mr. Simpson, I am the executive vice president of the World Football Federation. Woo! What you Americans call soccer. I'm sure you are familiar with the World Cup, the quadrennial drama unmatched on the planet. Oh yeah, that's the thing that guys at the dry cleaners get so excited about every four years. I'm afraid there has been an epidemic of referees being bribed to throw games.

06:38 From the Premier Leagues to the Playgrounds, all has been tainted. We need a symbol of integrity like yourself. Mr. Simpson, I am the new Executive Vice President of the WFF. We need outsiders like you to come to the World Cup as our guest and ref our games properly. So in typical Simpson fashion, Homer of course doesn't understand the benefit of knowing who's going to win by him throwing the game. But what's nice about these kinds of storylines is it explains exactly what is really happening. Will it be a German blitzkrieg or a Brazilian waxing? By the way, there's our blitzkrieg meme right there. Nazis! Nazi harbors! Guys, guys, you're both right. All right, just so there are no misunderstandings, you make sure Brazil wins and we give you one million dollars. If I bet it, I could double it. But on who?

07:35 You know that Brazil is going to win. Oh, thanks for telling me. I was gonna tape it. Okay, so who do you think Brazil is playing in this final match? Well, I would think Germany. Yes, exactly. Yeah, I think that's what's going to happen. And I have to agree with you. Now, of course, the Simpsons, you know, there's got to be a moral thing here. And so Lisa convinces Homer not to throw the game. And so here's the outcome. This match is tighter than two dogs on a summer morn. There's no score at all. Even the slightest pebble could start the landslide.

08:14 And El Divo goes down in the box. Will Homer award a penalty kick to Brazil? Do it! Do it! Call the penalty! No penalty! He does, Dad! No penalty! The game, plus two hours of funeral time, is about to conclude. And with Germany the victor 2-0 in an unprecedented display of rectitude and stubbornness by one Homer Simpson. I've never seen the Brazilians so depressed. So everything is in there. The Brazilians being depressed if they don't win, but of course they won't be doing Olé, they'll be burning down the house. I think we take the Simpsons prediction, fold it into our own theory, and say 2-0 for Brazil against Germany in the finals.

09:09 2-0? Yeah, most of the games have been 2-1. In fact, there was a... Yeah, but I would say 2-1, personally. I don't think they're gonna let the Germans get away with no scores. I don't think the Germans will put up with that. Play my soccer update high scores clip. Okay... They're really racking it up at 2.83 per match. That's the two to one score. I don't want to be as negative as you are about Foo's Ball, about the Foo's Ball, because I do enjoy watching the game. I mean, I also understand the game. You know how offsides works and there's strategy. Oh yeah, you know, it's so important that

10:05 You really keep track of that off sides because that player goes on that other side of that line and he's a huge advantage if they don't stop him. I enjoy watching the game. I played soccer when I was a kid. I did too. There's this one tough kid who's a tough neighborhood. Oh. There's this one tough kid. This is in San Francisco, tough neighborhood? No, it was in the suburbs. Were you in Oakland now all of a sudden? The action was, it was out in the suburbs. John is in control. So this one kid is running down a treat this guy. I think is Joe Arruga He's a strong little Joe Arruga. There's a name for you. Everyone's Portuguese So this guy kicks this guy and there's a court Portuguese area in Newark, California at the time was almost like 90 But I didn't know at the time. I always thought they were Latinos. You say Newark, California in Newark Oh, wow, because Newark, New Jersey is also a hellhole. I

09:09 2-0? Yeah, most of the games have been 2-1. In fact, there was a... Yeah, but I would say 2-1, personally. I don't think they're gonna let the Germans get away with no scores. I don't think the Germans will put up with that. Play my soccer update high scores clip. Okay... They're really racking it up at 2.83 per match. That's the two to one score. I don't want to be as negative as you are about Foo's Ball, about the Foo's Ball, because I do enjoy watching the game. I mean, I also understand the game. You know how offsides works and there's strategy. Oh yeah, you know, it's so important that

10:05 You really keep track of that off sides because that player goes on that other side of that line and he's a huge advantage if they don't stop him. I enjoy watching the game. I played soccer when I was a kid. I did too. There's this one tough kid who's a tough neighborhood. Oh. There's this one tough kid. This is in San Francisco, tough neighborhood? No, it was in the suburbs. Were you in Oakland now all of a sudden? The action was, it was out in the suburbs. John is in control. So this one kid is running down a treat this guy. I think is Joe Arruga He's a strong little Joe Arruga. There's a name for you. Everyone's Portuguese So this guy kicks this guy and there's a court Portuguese area in Newark, California at the time was almost like 90 But I didn't know at the time. I always thought they were Latinos. You say Newark, California in Newark Oh, wow, because Newark, New Jersey is also a hellhole. I

10:59 Interestingly, you know. Well, actually, New York, California is a nice place. Anyway, so this kid kicks the other kid and misses the ball and kicks this kid in his thigh. And by the way, we're all in the field and we heard this, the loudest snap. Ooh, no. And he didn't just break his leg. It snapped out? No, he broke it in two places. He pushed a piece out. From the middle so it was broken just below the knee and just above ankle That's horrible, and it was a noise that you'd never yeah, you never forget that

11:36 Oh wow. They felt bad about it. I've had childhood experiences like that, but it wasn't... we used to play... for some reason there was a... they were building new homes around when we first... I was like, I don't know, nine or ten years old. We lived in a village outside of Amsterdam and it was small and there was really... the bus service was once every two hours to get to Amsterdam. So we had to kind of entertain ourselves and they were building new homes And for some reason we made two teams and we thought it was a good idea to have a rock and shingle throwing fight. That's never a good idea. No, and then when you hear the shingles... Especially with shingles. The clay shingles, you know what I mean? Yeah, and you throw them in such a way that they're like frisbees. And Fritz Delonga, I'll never forget the sound it made when that thing hit his head and went...

12:24 It's just blood was just spread at that point. It went well. This was a dumb game. What were we thinking? Someone could get hurt yeah stupid Anyway, all right anyway. I think we're beating up the world. This is our I think this is our determination I'll stay with it. Yes, Brazil Germany to one. I'll go with you on the two one I think it would be kind of weird if it was if it was a two you can't get to the finals and get shut out I think nil-nil would be a funny ending, but I don't think they're gonna put up with that either That's the way this is this game is such a low scoring piece of crap game that the no offense though there goes the donations But this is my opinion as an American that it's that they have to regular that most of the games would be nil-nil No, that's not true. That's not true. I've seen all kinds. You know you can have runaway 30 minutes in Netherlands Mexico nil-nil

13:21 I'll keep this on the screen. I'll report back when one of the two teams scores. It's really not a good idea You're gonna be distracted by it. No it's all it is is just a just a two zeros there So I want to do a really quick update on a bit torrent sync because I don't want to bore people who aren't interested But we did discover something okay if you So this seems to be like a little backdoor hidden way to make this work beyond the 50 peer limit If you know what this is about then forget it's not interesting But we feel it's the new the new version of the new distribution of media for the future. If you go into the folder that you've set up and you select search DHT network, apparently it then will work beyond the all limitations. Now there's two things about this. One, what is DHT? I had to look into this. Do you know what DHT is? It's a drug. It's DMT. Very good. No.

14:18 DHT is distributed hash table. This is actually, when you look into this stuff, this is fascinating. This is how all of the BitTorrent stuff works, but also Bitcoin and I ran into all kinds of things. Feroo? Have you ever heard of feroo.com? No. It's a distributed search. F-A-R-O-O.com. You should use this. This thing is amazing. Amazing! It's been, because you know I'm a big fan of all these different distributed peer-to-peer search engines. This thing is good. And then I found this peer-to-peer distributed hash table Twitter client called Twister. There's a lot going on. I didn't so anyway I'm diving into this. Nobody covers any, you know why nobody's covering any of this stuff? Because there's no company. Because there's a new phone coming out! No, there's no phone attached to it. That's the problem.

15:11 What's this search engine you say? Is it a phone? No. Anyway, so if you do that, apparently that starts to work for everybody. Of course, that is not a... anything we can really bet on because it's in there now and it's not even documented in the BitTorrent sync docs, which means it could also be removed at the drop of a hat. So we can't bank on any of that, unfortunately. But this distributed hash table? There's a future in there. And I was just completely obliviously unaware to what it... I've heard of it, but what it actually does... It's fascinating. It really is fascinating. Oh good. But there's a new phone coming out!

15:54 No, it's new phone. No, this new phone. Look, it's got a nice feeling to it. It feels really good. You can rub your hands across the back and it won't slip on the table. Wearables. And it's got an eight megapixel camera with a zoom lens built in. And it has Google now. That's the future Google now. Wow. I'm putting you on the bench. Now I get to do it. In Proclamation 8468 of December 23rd, 2009, I determined that the Republic of Madagascar was not making continual progress in meeting the requirements described in Section 506A blah blah blah blah blah blah. Thus, pursuant to Section blah blah blah, I determined, I terminated the designation of Madagascar as a beneficiary Sub-Saharan African country for the purposes of this section. However, I'll skip ahead.

17:08 Pursuant, I have determined that the... oh, hold on. I now reauthorize the Madagascar and is now designated again as a beneficiary sub-Saharan African country. I always find these things interesting when, you know, it's not like the president was sitting around thinking, hey how's that Madagascar doing? Let me check on them. Hmm, oh they seem to be doing better now. I think I shall give them, put them back in the African Growth and Opportunity Act fund, which means giving them money and allowing money to flow there. But as a part of the same proclamation, the president says, in order to reflect

17:55 in the HTS beginning January 1st, 2015, the kingdom of Swaziland shall no longer be designated as a beneficiary sub-Saharan African country. Huh. What did they do to us? Well, so what do we do here at the No Agenda Show? We go to Faroo.com and we type in Madagascar Oil. That's how you... that's the good way... that's always a good way to start. Ah, lo and behold. Yeah, it seems to be going very well with the oil business in Madagascar. There's lots of stories. 34% increase in revenues, 188% increase in output. It seems to be going very well with Madagascar. Madagascar is a very interesting little... it's an island off the east coast of Africa. And there's 22 million people there and they pretty much eat dirt for a living.

18:54 Now this is a beautiful place to put a drone base. You can do a lot of stuff. Yeah. They've got 119 wells. That's Eagle Ford shale, a little marathon oil is drilling. Everybody's in there. Everybody's in Madagascar. Well, they'll all share the wells with the locals. And then of course, I... Yeah, hello locals. I'm sorry. Here's some dirt. Also, there's been some acquisitions in southern Madagascar's Block 3114. So this is not just because the president was sitting around and someone said, hey, those Madagascarians, they're doing much better. But now Swaziland, Swaziland needs to be punished.

19:34 And of course I did Swaziland oil. And did I come up with anything new? It has to... no? No. You didn't come up with Swaziland China? No, no, no. I found it though. I think I found it. They need to be punished because the 2022 FIFA World Cup Qatar scandal or Qatar, has taken a new twist as Swaziland has been listed among the countries implicated in the matter. This is a very big deal and it's popping open as we speak because Clinton was the guy who wanted to bring the 2022 World Cup to the United States and of course when Clinton gets out corrupted, gazumped as it were,

20:18 Then you're doing pretty good. And it turns out that Ben Hammond, this is kind of the spider in the web, he has been floating money to everybody and all of these African countries also have a vote in where the games go. And as it turns out, the kingdom of Swaziland were intimately and intricately involved in the corruption which is now bursting wide open. So I think they need, first of all, we need to have some distance from Swaziland, and they need to be punished for not playing the game as we like it. Right. We're the guys that you're supposed to be corrupt for, not those... Exactly. Cutter. Cutter. Cutter.

21:04 So it's just, you know, it's always interesting. And I hope that the younger folks who listen, folks, you know, kids, when you grow up and you read these things, you hear these things, you have...and even I still have to stop myself and go, wait a minute, don't just blow past it and think, oh yeah, whatever. Go and look and find out that this is where the internet is your friend. It's always very interesting to see what is behind these types of things. Yeah, you know the funny thing is, first of all you've got to recognize that you're being played. All the time. All the time. Not a little of the time, but all the time. So I was watching France Vancat, as I like to do, and there was a thing that cropped up on their little review of the web.

21:50 about what's going on in England. I guess some parts of this is going on in France. And I, because this has been in the news, you'll recognize it when you play. This is the internet. This is the clip that's called. Overlook meme is worldwide. I didn't realize that this was a worldwide something going on meme. That we have been, we've been played, it's been going on here, but I, especially in California and some of these states, and I didn't think it was part of any worldwide conspiracy, but apparently it is and now I realize, oh brother. The NGOs Citizens UK and Share Action have started a campaign to raise the minimum wage, stating it's not enough to live on. They're targeting Britain's largest private sector employer in particular, retailer Tesco, doctoring its price tags in stores to show £8.80, the amount they feel it should be paying employees. The movement has sparked much commentary online under the living wage hashtag.

22:51 Campaign is indeed enjoying great success online. In addition to the multitude of posts and messages, there's also an online petition doing the rounds. Yeah. Oh yeah. Hashtag living wage. So this is not like some, oh, that's so cool. The feds are looking into a better minimum wage for employees. Oh, look, look, Massachusetts has just raised the minimum wage to the highest. Now they make it in the United States. We do it differently. We make it a competition. Massachusetts has the highest minimum wage after they signed this bill. We've got to be a higher one, so let's raise ours. But the whole thing is part of a worldwide movement and a large part of it seems to me because they kept naming, was it Tedesco?

23:35 the store chain, this is like, I think maybe some of these NGOs have gotten a clue during the off season, which is what it is for them, because there's no elections. The off season, what are we gonna do to get some money in here? Well, let's just do some extortion games. I heard a term the other day, gongos. What's a gongos? Government organized non-governmental organization. Gongos. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, it does make sense. Which is kind of like human rights watch. Okay, well that's an interesting, I don't know what's behind the meme except to... Oh, well hello. What I missed out was, here's what the clip I had, I never used, that I missed out on, I should have picked it up then, was when the head of the IMF, what's her name, Christine Lagarde, brought it up in one of her meetings. Just before she started talking about global warming, she talked about the minimum wage needs to be raised worldwide. Wait a minute, how about

24:35 The New World Order! The New World Minimum Wage Order. Yeah, it's not... Okay, surprise, surprise? Is that... No, I'm not surprised, but it's just like, wow, geez, it was so obvious I should have picked it up right away. But it's like everything, this is just to your point, everything that is fed to us over the news media is part of some giant setup to take our money. In fact, yeah, it is. It is. Yeah, okay. I don't want to start with it. Yeah, yeah. Okay, and that's it. That's basically the premise of our show everybody. Yeah, you got it. Bye. It's just a giant scam to take our money. Well, there's also a giant scam going on to promote the, in ways I've never seen before, to promote the World Cup in the United States to get people interested in soccer. Now, I'm not sure, again, that this is another one of those things. You don't know why.

25:34 Except to benefit a few major league soccer teams the United States that can't be making any money Or just to keep the public more distracted or because we have so many Latinos in the country got to keep them busy But this was the joke of the whole thing. This is Marie Harf. I I saw, if this is about her outfit then I know where you're at. Actually I left it, I took this out of Democracy Now so the outfit could be discussed by our Democracy Now girl. Do we need to set it up as what she was wearing? Or is that explained in the question? No, no, it'll say in here, but the setup to me is she's wearing this idiotic USA sweatshirt

26:12 And I was looking at it going, what is this? What kind of a press conference is this? But it was so disrespectful because she was announcing the death of this woman activist in Libya and she was lamenting her, you know, how important she was to the turnover from Gaddafi into the modern era and all this other stuff. Meanwhile, she's wearing this joke costume. USA! She should have had the big foam hand. And then when What's her name from Democracy Now? Amy. Amy Goodman, when she comes out and she describes the outfit, she never even calls her on this, what I thought was tasteless appearance during a solemn moment. But okay. She was a courageous woman and a true Libyan patriot. She was an advocate for political prisoners during the Qaddafi regime, an organizer of demonstrations against the regime during the February 17th, 2011 revolution.

27:09 a political activist and an original member of the transitional National Council after the uprising began. Salwa resigned in protest over the absence of women's voices in the council, but continued to play an active and powerful role supporting democracy, human rights, and the participation of women in Libyan politics until she was murdered on the day she and other Libyans went to the polls to elect a new government. The State Department spokesperson Marie Harf wore a USA sweatshirt during the press conference as the US team faced Germany in the World Cup. The US lost 0-1 but still advanced to the next round. Thanks for the update, Amy. Couple things.

27:52 What people don't realize, the main reason soccer is not a big sport in the United States is there's no breaks for commercials. There's this... so it's up until... It's a continuous game. Yeah, the only thing they have now of course is the electronic signs around the field which change continuously but you know that is still not the same as selling you know a two million dollar Super Bowl spot. It's just not there. There's no halftime show. You don't think it has anything to do with the fact that the game to American taste is extremely boring and slow moving? No, in fact I disagree with you. I think a lot of Americans really like the game. I think they enjoy playing it. It's very simple.

28:39 unthinkable that every country in the world loves this sport, plays it actively, has active leagues. We have it as well, by the way. I mean, this goes back to the... We are in the World Cup. Yeah, I know, but the Washington... Was it the Nationals? No. What was their team? No. back in the day. You're a real fan. I was 10, but it's been around because I remember Johan Cruyff was hired by the Washington DC team and of course Beckham, you know, the Dutch guys ran all the LA team. Okay, fine. I'll take it. You're right. It's fantastic. But it's only commercials. There's no ways. And what, but we can, we are ingenious. We can come up with some way to slip commercials in.

29:23 No, I was noticing in NASCAR, you can't actually do that. More interesting game even though they're going in a circle. The NASCAR guys will have what's called a competition yellow. I didn't know, I've never heard of this. Maybe it's new. I've followed the sport for a while and I never heard of this. But if the, if the grace keeps going and going and going and there's no wrecks, and people have to change their tires and get some gas, they can usually sneak in to the, they'll sneak in off the pits and then it's been turned out then the guy sneaks in, it gets counted against him when he makes a pit stop and when he gets back on him. Then if they have a yellow, the guy's got screwed in the deal. So they now have these competition yellows where they figure, well, you know, the guys look like they're probably running out of gas, let's just throw a yellow flag up. And I think you could do the same thing with soccer.

30:11 Yeah, well we could try but that is... I'm just looking at the chat room and it's like, Curry's wrong! Wrong! Dvorak's right on this one! Americans don't like a... No, believe me. Americans will like anything as long as you can televise it. We like the freaking Kardashians! Give me a break! We'll watch any shit! Well that's a point well taken. It just has to be commercialized in the right way and because of the world nature of football You can't just change the game in America. That would be like the Japanese, they change baseball. Designated flopper. The guy falls and then they have to stop the game. And then they kick him out, a new designated flopper comes in, they go for about five, ten minutes. That's the only cultural difference and that's why it's complicated. But that's just our culture. If it's not on television, it might as well not exist.

31:04 If it's on television, we're all in. That's the only difference. Well, you know what they can do? Here's another solution. Again, I'll go back to NASCAR as my example. The race is going on round and round and round and round, they're going around at 200 miles an hour. And they have it on Fox, they have it on ABC, they have this, they scatter it around and then you'll be watching and then they just go right to commercial. Hell with it. The race doesn't stop. They just keep going around and around. You can do the same thing with soccer. Nothing is going on with soccer. It's a nil-nil game. I have a better idea, I have a better idea. Just go to commercial and if something happens, you can show the replay.

31:43 You know, they fix this with tennis by just adding a zero to the score. You hit one, it's not one, it's ten. Okay, ten. You know, they fix that. That's just for the score, but that's been traditional with tennis. The way we fix it, John, come on. They didn't fix it. The way we fix it is very simple. We need team mascots and we need cheerleaders. That would help a lot. Actually, cheerleaders would benefit soccer. I'm telling you, that would be good. You know, and then when the play is boring... 45 minutes into it. No, when the play is boring, then we just cue the cheerleaders and, you know, but then we're not going to be like in the...

32:20 Like the Tony Bazzle cheerleaders. No, these are going to be hot porn babes. We've got to outdo the cheerleader. I think we've discussed enough soccer. I do want to say something about Marie from this same conference. She was asked a very tough question. And this is kind of a double whammy because Kerry, watermelon head Secretary of State, I'm not wearing a helmet because it might make me look non-presidential, John F. Kerry. said something very interesting and he used a word that we had been trying to remove from our vocabulary unless it is warranted as in it's actually the meaning of the word literal and he used this word and he got called on it. Here's the setup for this, President Kerry. Ukraine... I'm sorry, Secretary of State Kerry. Ukraine, we are in full agreement that

33:17 It is critical for Russia to show in the next hours, literally, that they're moving to help disarm the separatists, to encourage them to disarm, to call on them to lay down their weapons and begin to become part of a legitimate political process. He said literally a few hours, which the way you should take it is what? What is gonna happen in a few hours and there of course is I'm gonna get the memo to the front lines in a few hours And there's our boy Matt from AP who? Asks Marie Harf in her little band camp uniform what this is all about I'm curious if you can extrapolate a little bit or elaborate a little bit on his what he meant when he said that Russia has hours literally hours to basically show goodwill to move to the Sun a separatist what and

34:12 uh... hours is less than days clearly what what exactly happens if they don't need this our a couple of times i mean the week-long ceasefire expires tomorrow so that's partly what was driving the secretary when he was talking about timing also the european council is meeting tomorrow to discuss among other things i think possible additional sanctions against russia secretary when that one in specific timing for additional sanctions but i underscoring the need of this need to happen quickly Dancin' Dancin' Dancin'

34:59 Ukraine's president traveled to Belgium on Friday to sign an historic free trade pact and political accord with the European Union. It's that same agreement that former leader Viktor Yanukovych had refused to sign in October, sparking months of political and social unrest. On Friday, similar accords were signed by Moldova and Georgia, allowing them access to economic integration with Western Europe and access to the EU's 500 million citizens after signing the Kremlin warned of grave consequences. It's a little surprise that Ukraine's signing an economic association agreement with the European Union on Friday has irritated the Kremlin and Moscow has warned of serious consequences of this move. And that's not just in relation to trade between Russia and Ukraine, but also in relation to the Ukrainian economy. And this has been reflected in Russia's state media, which has been reporting throughout the day on economic downfalls of this move of this association.

36:01 reporting on how Ukraine's goods are not up to the European standards and will not be able to compete with European goods. But nonetheless, of course, for many Ukrainians, this association means a step closer to their dream of one day joining the European Union. Yeah, this is a this is a was not an unexpected move. We knew it would happen. The 27th was what it was slated for. But this is, of course, forming the block against Russia, who are now getting as close to China as possible. I actually have the Haiku Herman's little statement of this signing if you want to hear the the glorification of it. Oh, yes. I wholeheartedly welcome President Petro Poroshenko of Ukraine.

36:50 It's gonna be so much more fun when Hela Thorne Helensson Schickenlin is doing this instead of Haiku Herman, you know the selfie babe. We're gonna miss the Haiku. Oh please shoot. And you know Haiku Herman is number one soccer fan. Prime Minister Irakli Garibashvili of Georgia and Prime Minister Yuri Yanka of the Republic of Moldova. We are here to sign the association agreements between European Union and each of your countries. These are not just any other agreements, but milestones in the history of our relations and for Europe as a whole. In Kiev and elsewhere, people gave their lives for this closer link to the European Union. We will not forget them. I cannot conclude without referring

37:45 to the very difficult security challenges that Ukraine is currently facing. Nor to the uncertainty looming over relations between the Russian Federation and Georgia and Moldova. My first message is that the European Union stands by your side. Today more than ever before. So this of course is because they can't become members of the EU There's a long waiting list, there's all kinds of rules and regulations, but the, as they say, association agreement, which we would say association agreement, but the association agreement is pretty much saying we will kill anyone on your behalf.

38:25 You have our support. That's the support, is killing anyone on your behalf, the support. And solidarity. And our recognition of your territorial integrity. My second message is that there is nothing in these agreements, nor in the European Union's approach, that might harm Russia in any way. The European Union stands ready to engage with Russia as much as need be. Engage? To dispel misunderstandings where they may exist. Is that like Facebook engagement? And to chart together a safer future for our common continent. You guys are in the verge of starting a war. Our union wants a stable European continent that we all share.

39:14 Future generations in Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia will remember this day. Oh yeah. Well I know one thing. Yeah. The hookers in Europe are going to be a lot better looking. Oh thank God. About time. Now there's some, there are a lot of things happening here and these of course are all in the show notes. Now of course most of this is about the gas. and it's all about trade. Don't short sell the hookers. I won't. Look, I've always said all war is about turf, resources, and hookers. That's what it's always about. That's what war is always fought over. So now we have this issue with Ukraine, but of course now we're talking Moldova, you know, there's all kinds of pipelines are running everywhere.

40:01 and the Russians are about to cut off, of course that's very difficult, they want to cut off the pipeline gas supply through Ukraine, but at the same time... They don't pay their bills! Yep. At the same time, they've been working very hard on creating the South Stream pipeline, which would go through the Caspian Sea. A lot of it's already in place, but Bulgaria was kind of in play about this. And the European Union was good. The pipeline would go through Bulgaria. You have to look at the map, people, to understand what's going on here. But here's what's funny. So Bulgaria first would, and by the way, everyone showed up in Bulgaria. Everyone did a little visit there. Yeah. You're not really going to let that pipeline go through here, are you? And Bulgaria is kind of like, yeah, well, you know, we just might have to. What happens all of a sudden? Cyber attack! Run on the bank!

40:58 Bulgaria is under complete attack. Have you seen this? Yeah. I wonder who's behind that. Must be the Chinese. Who could it be? So there's like, oh, there's some, you know, the banks are going out of business, that people are sending text messages around. It's complete terrorism. And it's very obvious. Hey, hey, you don't want to play ball. You know, you want to let that Putin's thing go through here. You might have a cyber attack or some run on your banks, which is exactly what's happening. Turkey number one. Oh, by the way, it's halftime. Nil-Nil. Meanwhile, I'll just stay with the people who are screwing people on our behalf. I got a one of our producers

41:51 Sub 7-0 is his handle. He's in Damascus, and he sends me notes all the time. He says he wish he could donate by the way, but everything's been cut off. They can't use PayPal. They can't use Visa MasterCard. It's like... This could happen here by the way. It could happen anywhere. Yeah, they just shut down the system and say, hey, okay. Good luck. Knuckle under. Yeah. Bitcoin. Good luck with that. Even with the gold coins. Good luck with those gold coins. Bitcoin will work well though. It'll be fine. Sure it will. But I didn't know this, but Turkey has systematically been blocking the Euphrates River, stopping the flow, and Syria depends for a large portion, certainly the northern territories, on hydropower.

42:39 And they've been out of power for hours a day, up to six, seven hours per day, because the Turks are turning off the water. I have not heard this. No, well, gee, you figure it's underreported. That's what I said to Sub-70. Everything is underreported. Oh my God, no one talks about this. But that is an absolute violation Even though I think human rights, you know, how these are used and how these are codified is bullcrap and it's used to put our thinking onto other nations. But this is a violation! You can't just stop the water!

43:19 So Turkey's been doing this systematically. I've got like four or five different stories I've been able to find about this. Water war. Turkey cuts water supply to Syria. A new Turkish aggression against Syria. Ankara suspends something. Water war. Turkey cuts water supply. We get the water war seems to be the meme. Water war. Oh yeah, this is it. Water war. Water war. Water war. Worthy news. Water war. It's okay, we're doing the same to the poor in Detroit. If you can't pay your water bill, let me cut you off. You don't need water, stupid slave. And there, of course, the United Nations is all up in arms. In Detroit? Yeah. You haven't heard about this, huh? No, you'd think I would. Residents of Detroit, Michigan, who are $150 or two months past due on their water bills, are having their water shut off. Now even the United Nations has stepped in, saying Detroit is in violation of the human right to water! Screw the Syrians. Oh, this is another meme they're trying to start. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

44:20 Yep, no, it's human right to water human right would tell that to the people in Ethiopia human right to education human right to Transportation that'll be one of them. Oh, yeah So let's say with Iraq for a moment then since we're kind of in the region and we can't beat this to death But it's just uncanny all the things that are happening. The main thing of course is a president Obama Put in his request. This is the the 500 million dollars for the fiscal year 2015 budget amendments wherein he requests the overseas contingency operations which we know is about 80 billion dollars, five of which will be going directly to the counter-terrorism fund for the partners. And of that, 500 million has been requested per immediately to train the appropriately vetted moderate rebels. They couldn't come up with a better one?

45:21 Yeah, that is I know I heard this too, and I was thinking you know this is like we I guess we were just money's burning a hole in our pocket We just got to get it over there. Maybe it's just a shut up McCain possibly possibly so of course I'm following the Institute for the study of war and They had they seemed amazing how they do this they have the ISIS battle plan for Baghdad right there on their website and They're probably designing the battle plan for ISIS. I think they pre-publish it. Oh yeah, they're one of our clients. If you go to isismap.noagendanotes.com, isismap.noagendanotes.com, you'll see the map and it's now clear the emirate of ISIS, or let's just call it Kurdistan,

46:18 is set. It's beautiful to watch this. You'll see on this map, isismap.noajendenos.com. You got it? Yes, loading. Okay. I'm looking at it now. Alright, so you see the ISIS control zones, which is kind of the outline of Kurdistan, and then the attack zones and the support zones. This is the emirate. It's beautifully outlined. And up there at the top is the border with Turkey. There's no fighting going on there because, well, no. There are buddies. And here it is. It's perfectly outlined. It goes all the way up to Aleppo and then up to the north so we get to the port of Sahan and we can get the oil out. Yeah, it's like a nice looking little country. It's a beautiful country. Israel. Israel said... where is this? They had a great quote. Israel says, disintegration in Iraq may lead to independent Kurdish state. Really?

47:19 This is exactly what it's supposed to be. And this will be off the map. Pretty soon we won't be talking about this. But you are correct in your assumption of the term Al-Qaeda army and they're getting ready for it. This was morning Joe, Mika, Brzezinski, Daughter of the grand chessboard guy and he or she's talking about what has happened. There are new reports ISIS militants have joined forces with al-qaeda Extremist group potentially doubling their number of forces. It could be further pressure the Obama administration To carry out airstrikes something the White House says can be done without congressional approval joining us now There you go. So merging ISIS merges with al-qaeda even said it right there in the lower third merging, huh?

48:11 I wonder who put that deal together. What kind of stock options were going on to these guys? You know, can't we do like a like the Hollywood Stock Exchange that Max Keiser did? We just do the Al-Qaeda Stock Exchange. Just who's gonna get folded in? One ally, knocking at the door. Who's gonna get folded in? You guys don't understand what we're trying to do. Yes, we do. Yeah, we know. We understand. Coming with us. Yeah. So not much of a change other than the money is now being loosened and it will be interesting to see who votes for this for the overseas... What the OCO, what do they call it? I don't know. The overseas contingency operations. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that. I'm presuming that everybody will be all in and say, yeah, yeah, we got to get that quick because you know babies...

49:02 They're recruiting teens. Right, they're recruiting kids. Kony to 2012! Yeah, exactly. Okay. Alright, um... I got some stuff here that might be good. There's plenty of stuff going. Alright, I'll do one. Just because... Well, I gotta segue one. It's perfect, because it's got no connection to anything else and it's a good way to make a break. I just thought this was a funny commercial. This is an ambulance chaser commercial for something I'm not that familiar with, but I've heard of it. Respiradol. I think we've talked about this, haven't we? Yeah, but we haven't talked about this. I don't think we talked about it. I don't think I played this commercial. Can we play it now? Yeah. Have you or your son taken the anti-psychotic drug Respiradol?

49:52 Recent discoveries have uncovered a possible link between Risperdal and gynecomastia, the development of breasts in men and adolescents. If you develop breasts after taking Risperdal, take action fast. You may be entitled to significant compensation. Call our network of attorneys right now for a free, no-risk evaluation of your claim. Many cases have already been settled out of court. So call us right now. Call the number on your screen today and get the relief you deserve. So I think the company, apparently the compensation is a garter belt with a bunch of ones stuck. Oh yeah. Hey, really? Do you have writers now or how does that work? What is Risperdal? What is it? What is the drug for? It's an antipsychotic. And you can develop breasts. Apparently. That's nuts.

50:39 Well, that won't make you crazy. Well, that fits right into that might must be one of the new tools that the the police are using to determine the crazy people so we can get to them before they go and shoot up schools and kill people. A troubled woman whose identity we've obscured is gently escorted from her home. No handcuffs. A neighbor said the woman had stopped taking her meds and she's been getting worse. This by the way, the the meds Mean is very disturbing to me. It bothers me too, and it's always the word meds I don't like this isn't this this stems from the same the same. I don't know force the same force that came up with veggies and You didn't eat your veggies. Yeah, I didn't take your meds. I don't like for three year olds I have

51:29 Because I know Miss Mickey is listening and she says this all the time. And I don't say anything about it because, you know, she's Dutch, you know, I'm not gonna get in her face. I know she doesn't mean it that way, but I can't... she's gonna be like, what?! You didn't tell me that! But she says, she just... vitamins, you know, like, she said, oh, did you take your meds? And I go... But it's a thing now. It's like a... Didn't we get a note from... A big time meme. I think we got a note from a teacher a while back who was talking about his class. He said at least 40% of his class is on some form of anti-psychotics or Adderall or whatever ADHD medication. And the kids are all in the class talking about, have you taken your meds yet? Man, I haven't taken my meds.

52:15 It is, yeah. It's like it's dumbing it down to the level of veggies. I agree. So, and it's probably on purpose. It's probably a marketing trick. Whose identity we've obscured is gently escorted from her home. No handcuffs. A neighbor said the woman had stopped taking her meds and she's been getting worse, tossing away all her belongings, sitting outside naked and issuing threats, which the neighbor said he didn't take all that seriously. But in Tucson, the Pima County Sheriff's Department's MIST unit, the Mental Health Support Team. Now listen, it's the Mental Health Support Team, the MIST unit. Oh, we have something new. Takes every threat seriously. And when detectives like Maria Stengel hear from any source that someone is on the verge of violence... It's truly a job right now for her not to commit suicide. They move. And now, armed with everything known about a subject...

53:08 Again, you hear that the meds Arizona law says the individual can be brought in voluntarily to a mental health crisis response center I'm not quite sure what that means that the someone could be brought in voluntarily It sounded a little bit like she's in handcuffs. Play that again. Play it with dissected LaVorne. And remember, you're hearing, you're watching a segment about a woman in handcuffs. New Arizona law says the individual can be brought in voluntarily to a mental health crisis response center. That sounded like it wasn't so voluntary the way he said it. No, in fact, I think they're misusing the word on purpose.

53:48 Delusional not a hermense a new Arizona law says the individual can be brought in voluntarily to a mental health crisis response I think they've read they're adjusting the word volunteer. Yeah. No, seriously. Well, you got to come in. Well, I don't want to come in Well, we're gonna take don't worry. It's voluntary. It's voluntary. Oh, okay without a warrant or court order visible evidence of danger that I think is what voluntary means without a warrant. Are we preventing crime? I think we are. If they are, it's also because they roll with more information than many of their counterparts elsewhere. They roll. We roll. That's another term I hate.

54:25 And that's how I roll. And it will pop. What do you mean you roll? Are you walking? Are you walking? You're driving? You're rolling. I can't remember where, but I have a clip where that pops up again. We'll find it. ...many of their counterparts elsewhere, like the deputies in Santa Barbara who didn't know about Elliot Rogers' legal gun purchases and had not seen his alarming online postings when they visited him at his mother's request... Oh. Mm-hmm. ...a few weeks before his May rampage. They miss his true murderous intentions. Here, they respond to hundreds of mental health calls every month. The goal not arrest, but involuntary mental health first aid. Did he say voluntary or involuntary? That time it was involuntary. I agree. I think he said this is what it's supposed to be is involuntary. Sorry, I'm back a little bit more. Yeah, that would be more correct. I agree. The goal not arrest, but involuntary

55:16 Sorry, say again? That's what we should have said before. Involuntary, you can be taken in without a warrant involuntarily. I just got a text from Mickey. I only say take your meds because it's a jingle on your show, damn it! She's irked with you now. No fun for you tonight. I love you, darling. True murderous intentions. Here, they respond to hundreds of mental health calls every month. The goal not arrest but involuntary mental health first aid involved to get a troubled individual past the potential explosion point and into treatment We do know that we've intervened where we're potentially there could be violent acts perpetrated Violent acts like the guns and explosives ambush a man threatened against the police This time the father had gotten a court order the guns never went off. The son remains in outpatient treatment. I

56:17 The new law plus unprecedented data sharing by every law enforcement and mental health stakeholder in Pima County. Woohoo! That sounds groovy. Aims to make the next Jared Loeffner far less likely to slip through the cracks. Interesting they went from Santa Barbara to Jared Loeffner in one fell swoop. Of course this wasn't Arizona. Where was the C- is this CBS? Sounds like a CBS. It was a local, I think it was a package. That was a package somebody did professionally. That's no local package. It's a good package. But I like the mix up of voluntary and involuntary, involuntary, un-involuntary.

56:56 Meds, they've gone offer meds, refused taking your meds. These are- No, just tell you this meme refused to take the meds. Yeah. Has been cropping up a lot on the show. Mm-hmm. And I think it had does have to do with forced medication. Yeah. Where they can give you shots or whatever, whether you like it or not. Usually in the neck. Held all in the neck. Yeah, that's already the year. That's called vaccinations. It's already a fact of life You have a kid now your kid is gonna be vaccinated. This is no two ways about it Well, there's a good reason for these vaccinations Adam Yeah to prevent worldwide pandemic as shown on the new show I think it's CIA BC Michael Bay's the last ship

57:51 What is this this is a program? Yeah, this just came out. It's just I think premiered yesterday You want me to play? Play the yeah, this is I have to set it up. This is last year But this is the woman explaining why she's on this ship and all hell's breaking loose and this guy again They were wondering why the Russians attacked the ship seven months ago outside Cairo. There was an outbreak A virus of unknown origin. Its genetic structure was like nothing any of us had ever seen. Wow, is this a movie script? What is this? This is a TV show by Michael Bay. Okay. It swept throughout the village. It could have been a local news report. That's the way they talk too. I know, that's what's so funny about this. Everyone that it infected.

58:35 Egyptian officials claim the outbreak was contained, but it wasn't. Instead it continued to mutate and spread. The CDC and the WHO wanted to sample the virus and the victims to create a vaccine. But nothing worked. It was my belief that we needed to find the primordial strain here in the Arctic. The birds? They're just the carriers. Melting permafrost! Oh. We were at M-Con, so no one would know our position. We were at M-Con to protect my mission, not yours.

59:30 Yeah, this isn't this is a meme that I have something for that as well. I don't know you want to clip to it Which kind of wraps it up? Yeah cool because it has a nice punchline, but let me mention a couple of things one Incorporated within the script is the implication that climate warming has caused this problem by the melting permafrost Yes, sir apparently is not perma also. We might as well slip in the fact that Egypt lies. Yeah, well duh So I assume that this is a meme fest of a TV series. Yeah, I have some example of this for another entertainment property. What is the second clip? This just plays it out.

1:00:12 Orders came from the White House. Well, you led the Russians right to us. And endangered my entire crew. It was imperative that I stay in contact with the labs back home to keep them informed of my progress. I don't think you understand what we're talking about here. Enlighten me. When we left Norfolk, the virus was at phase two. Limited to small clusters in Asia and Africa. We are now at phase six. Oh. Global pandemic. Woohoo! 80% of the world's population is infected. The world is sick, Captain Chandler. Very sick. Are you telling me the whole world is dying and they send two people to save it? It took weeks to convince the government to even send me here. Most of my colleagues think that I'm insane. Are you? I told you.

1:01:12 that what's in that case might be the only hope that we have. Captain, we have the President of the United States on the VidCon. Woohoo! On the VidCon! On the VidCon. I got the President of the United States on the VidCon. Yeah. Okay, so we got a lot of stuff going on in this story and we had one of the top action adventure directors ever doing it, so it's gonna be lively. And it'll be slipping propaganda in like there's no tomorrow. This is gonna be a horrible show. Let me bring another piece to this. I'm going to play it backwards actually. A couple weeks ago we had big tornadoes in Nebraska.

1:01:59 I think there was no one was killed there may have been a very low casualty count but of course there was always damage and this video was circulating the net of some storm chasers. Third one coming. I am satisfied right here. This is beautiful, man. We're getting pretty close. It's sucking that other tornado right into it. But look how fast it moved. It was going slow until it got close and it got sucked into the rotation. So this was the double tornado. Now I'm going to presume that this was real. I read everywhere in Reuters and other publications, very rare to have double tornado. They have them every year and this triples. Well,

1:02:45 Enter the new movie coming out in a few weeks Into the Storm. Here's a bit of the trailer. I leave you with Henry David Thoreau's words Go confidently in the direction of your dreams live the life you have imagined It was close dude, there's another one there's three four three

1:03:49 Coincidence? I don't know, maybe it's just coincidence. But of course now this is unprecedented. They say these double was never seen before and then we get this trailer where they're splitting. It's three, it's four. They're breeding, they're breeding everywhere. And by the way, whoever that was in the chat room, you don't need, you know, when we make a joke about vaccines or, you know, we've have done so much on this show about vaccines, so much. We, in fact, years ago, we uncovered that the pharmaceutical companies from their financial documents and presentations were betting their entire pipeline, their entire future on vaccinations because

1:04:30 They knew that they cannot be sued by the by anyone under statutory law in the United States And what's that law once that law passed they were all in that's where you had all kinds of like there And they're calling everything a vaccine and the reason they call everything a vaccine like the anti-smoking vaccine Smoking is not a disease. No, that's okay. So they have anti-smoke so that you can't get sued for that either because it's a vaccine and So then what I get is, I encourage Adam to see some children who have autism, it's really fucked up, it's not funny, the glibness has to stop! No, please. Okay? Did somebody say the glibness has to stop? The glibness has to stop, yeah. Who the fuck does that asshole think he is? Well, he's about to get kicked out of the chatroom, that's for sure.

1:05:11 Yeah, exactly. I had to say it because it just made me a little mad. Like, really? If anyone is not glib about this stuff... Yeah, we got to make fun of things. What did you want to... That's enough. You're giving the guy too much time. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. Ah, breathe. Okay, much better. This is a big movie, though. This is a big-ass director who's done big disaster movies, and this is... Now that we've tried everything, and it just doesn't get the traction. It's obvious that we now have to just put the money into Hollywood. That's the only way people will really believe it's going to happen. I think that's what this book, or this book, The New Chief is all about. Yes, yes. And it's just like, oh, you know, and the genius of it

1:05:52 is it allows the viewer to put two and two together. You get the wrong answer, but you put two and two together because of this thing. Because they started thinking of permafrost as melting. And that's where all this horrible disease has come from because the birds I guess cold weather birds, they go into the permafrost and just yeah, they need a drink I guess, they drink some of the water, they get this virus and they poop it over on Egypt and the Egyptians lie. But think of the genius, how they've been talking for years now, oh they're thawing out the 1918 plague victims bodies, they're thawing out the virus, it could get loose, this is all pre...and it's, this by the way,

1:06:33 If there is such a thing as human rights, this is a gross violation of everyone's human rights. The way the entertainment business, which is the same as the news business, are terrorizing people. Terrorizing! You need to opt out, you really do. You just need to stop watching. Go out and have some fun. Which is what we tried to do yesterday, yesterday and today. The annual event of the Amateur Radio Relay League, John, known as... Field day. That's right. And on field day, traditionally... Well since I can't get my little device to work... On field day, traditionally, we go out with our go bag. We. Yes, we. Members of the ARRL.

1:07:18 And you're not allowed to have any conventional means of power or communication. So no cell phone, which is easy for me, I don't have one. And no... You can only use batteries, generators, solar, anything that would work in a crisis. And it's a lot of fun. And of course you have minimal power. Although it's not actually all that fun anymore because now everyone's doing it. It's just a big, big mess. Big mess of everyone. Hey field day field day. Are you going to the field? Yeah, yeah understanding this Yeah, you actually go into field and we were gonna go to I mean into field. Yeah fields parks fields nature streams camping grounds Backyards, maybe well, that's where I wound up I'm doing my field day in the backyard

1:08:09 It's valid. It's valid. And the weather, we had gale force winds yesterday. I'm like, a field day or not, we're not going. Went and bought a washing machine. But yeah, this of course is where it is proof that amateur radio could one day save your life. Of course, this is now being Talked down upon as we are a bunch of nutcases. It was a sip. How's that work? Well, if amateur radio enthusiasts are largely not nutcases. Mm-hmm. No, I disagree I think most of them are not cases. We're not nutcases. We're just not We're not your normal guys You know, but when someone's walking around with you know vinyl jackets with emergency thing about coders. Yeah. Well a lot There's a lot of overlap. There's this guy who was

1:08:59 Arrested in, I want to say, Florida? Hmm. And they called him the Doomsday Prepper. So this poor schmuck, he had guns and you know, whatever, he's collecting stuff. He was an archivist. Yeah. I guess someone, you know, someone said, oh, he wants to kill, kill police agents. This, this little report, which I've had for a couple of shows includes a number of things. So Doomsday Prepper, not just Prepper, but Doomsday Prepper. Well, Doomsday Prepper was the name of a show. Intellect. Okay, but then, oh that's funny. Okay, it was called Doomsday Revenants and there was all these hardcore preppers. Right, well that's apparently your nut job, you have to be arrested, and there's also a strong F-religion in here, which is also a part, I guess if you're a prepper then you're a religious kook.

1:09:52 You believe the earth is only 6,000 years old and of course you're a Republican too probably. Unanimously they call it the worst week of their entire lives. See while the world's may know Martin Winters as the doomsday prepper, his daughters just know him as dad. That's not our father, he's not a violent person. And it's not just them saying it. Tonight more than 100 people gathered to show their support. Amen. Amen. I love that. They gathered to show the report. Amen. Amen. Crazy religious people. You see, you got to be scared of them. The man they know as Marty is simply misunderstood. I think they took the whole context of him being prepared and twisted it. They say their dad never spoke about killing government agents, nor is he the leader of the River Otter Preppers. So we asked why then would he run? My personal opinion is I believe

1:10:43 When they approached him and they had guns to his vehicle and his grandchildren were in there. He reacted. And now it's their turn. But all they can do is pray. We just want to pray. Winters did plead not guilty. I love it. All they can do is pray. Now they have legal recourse. A lot of things they can do, but no, all they can do is pray. In court, he's accused of making destructive devices without a permit, stockpiling weapons, and threatening to kill government agents. Please. All they can do is pray. Now that you mention it, it's an interesting nihilist meme to throw out to people. All you can do is pray. In other words, you can't... You can't, you have no recourse. Yeah, you can't win. You can't win against the state. Your god is no good against the state. Yeah, it's annoying. Very, very annoying. Yeah, it's very depressing.

1:11:30 Because I'm only one destructive device away from being a doomsday prep or whatever that is. It could be a Roman candle for all I know. There's a lot of... Roman candle, you just, you took it, you take a razor blade and cut a Roman candle open and start doing some stuff with the gobs of goo inside and powder. And your next thing you know, you're in jail. I'm sure that would be illegal. There's so much to be said. I got an oddball clip here. Should we, uh, should we take one moment? Oh yeah, we should. Didn't I play my oddball? Yeah, because I would like to, um, just to say for a second here, I would like to say, uh, thank you for your courage and in the morning to you, John C. DuBois! Well, in the morning to you, Adam Curry. In the morning to all ships that see boots on the ground, feet in the air, sons in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. And in the morning to everyone in the chat room, NoahJenderStream.com, NoahJenderChat.net, where there's now a raging debate

1:12:29 You should never be kicked out of the Noahage in the chat room. Freedom of speech for all! No, you should be kicked out of the chat, jerk. And in the morning to all of our artists, thank you. 20Watt Bulb hits it again with the art for episode 629er. This was a good one. Yeah, this is a very good one. A lot of people tweeted about it. It was so good. I would say this, that we're suspicious That it may be someone else's... Mr. Bulb. Yeah, coming in under an assumed name. Yes. It doesn't really matter. I mean... No, it doesn't matter to me. Maybe he wants to be this new guy. But it could... We're suspicious because it's... You don't shoot to the top like this without having some experience. Well, what's interesting, I saw people saying, I thought this was the worst album art ever until I heard the show, then it was the best album art ever.

1:13:20 And this was what SpotR does. It's supposed to enhance. Exactly. This is the Ben's email backup floppy disk number 33. This is just, I mean that was... Even if you didn't hear the show, it's a funny looking piece of work. I think his first name may have been Ben. So a guy named Ben, a dude named Ben. Exactly. A dude named Ben. And coming up we have several emails from dudes named Ben regarding the actual, the facts behind Corporate email system. This will be good. Yeah, I think it's amazing. No, it's not amazing. It is amazing It's heartwarming to see all of the IT admins checking in and giving us You know their personal experience and we have them from large fortune 500 companies government facilities Pentagon all kinds of stuff and they're all named Ben funny enough. It's just crazy how that works. Yes before

1:14:19 Before we get to our first cash donor, we need to thank Sir Jonarama, who is our official Ham Knight. Am I right with this name here? Is this alright? I don't have the note in front of me. Yeah. He sent you your icon, ID 51. Oh, no, yeah. Right. He's our ham guy. Yeah. So he's on the list for today.

1:14:56 Right, yes, for sending the device. Yeah, which we still have to get it to work. Yeah, it's supposed to be easy, but it seems to be as complex as everything else. And again, you know, I'm asking, Adam's walking me through, because he's got these things running, and so I'm asking the dumb questions, like why doesn't it do this, why doesn't it do that, and he can't answer any of the dumb questions. Well, it's like why isn't there an error message? Why isn't there a simple error message that would be fine? No, I can't that's the politics. You have to double-click on certain things that you can single-click seems to do it never ceases to Confound me the politics of amateur radio And there is it's jihadism this stuff and and D star is a whole new level of

1:15:48 Just political jihadism. I'm telling you it's There's the open source guys, there's the D plus guys, the X Reflector guys, the Raspberry Pi versus... It just goes on. This is a fractal, of course, of this sort of thing. Wikipedia being one example, where somebody gets the... There is someone who dogs certain pages and they have RSS that comes to them when somebody goes... This is what happens when you try to change a page, an important page, and you change some piece of information. immediately the guy who's the dog that's constantly watching the page will get an RSS feed. Oh no, that can't be, that's not right. There's no verification of this. They'll go in and change it back. And so the stuff gets changed back and forth and back and forth. And this happens, I don't know who's doing the No Agenda page. A lot of these people are anonymous. But I remember the time where somebody got a hair up their ass and decided just to take all the information off the page, you know, about our memes and some of the themes that we discuss and the rest of it.

1:16:49 and kind of a glossary of what we mean when we say certain things. That was all gone? No, it was gone. If you remember, this was like, I don't know, on Show 200, and I bitched about it. I said, this is terrible, they've ruined the page! And the guy, it was back in a minute. So they do take criticism, you know, did this kind of offhanded thing, but the same thing's with the ham community. That's why I think my complaining Or certain kinds of, then you in particular, complain about certain things. Like why when I, if I can hit the repeater, but I don't have the credentials to talk to the repeater, why doesn't the repeater send me a message telling me, saying, you do not have the credentials to talk to me, go away. Or go register or something. Or go register or anything. Or why with the D-com device, or the D-star? I'll tell you why. It's for the same reason, now I run my own email server, so you know,

1:17:46 And I'm watching the logs and everything. It's always, it's fun. Once you set it up, it kind of runs by itself and I have to do some maintenance, but very, very little. And just, I don't really have to think about it. But then the other day someone sent me an email and said, I'm sending this from my Gmail account because when I sent it to you, I got an error message saying, male denied, go away bad guy. It was, it had to be a female who was sending me this. And she really didn't understand it. And so I, you know, of course now I'm looking into it. Go away bad guy. This is an actual message that is... Did you put it in? No, no. This is a part of the, I think it's the procmail or sendmail, I don't know which one it is. Postfix, I'm sorry. It's postfix. And when someone hits your email server with a misconfigured

1:18:35 email domain, such that they don't, maybe they don't have a reverse DNS set up properly. There's something that, yeah, there's always little errors. But there's something that is, there's a number of reasons you can get this particular error, but the message that the server sends, which apparently is slipping through into the actual rejection message, is, go away bad guy, and it's so unhelpful. This is not, you know, if it said, hey, you know, something's misconfigured, whoever's running an email server, why don't you have them check this? You know, you can't have a .local as your, you know, whatever. There's all kinds of little things. But, and this is very typical. This is very typical of maybe it's when it's open source, open community, or whatever it is. People like to do these little things that make no sense. Yeah, it's juvenile. Yeah, and makes, it's not helpful.

1:19:22 And here I am a guy just trying, I'm trying to be Ben. I'm just trying to make stuff work and you know try and be a part of the solution and I have to go googling what does this mean and this and it's like... Go away, bad guy! And I know lots of dudes named Ben are smiling because they know that they've all seen this error message and it's just not helpful. Yeah, yeah. Well that's the kind of glib we don't need. So let's thank a few people, including at the top of the list, sir. And here it is, another donation from the Grand Duke of the USA, Sir David Foley. We got now one.

1:20:09 We got two jingles. Since we've been so late... We've been begging for a Foley jingle. Here's the second one. There you go. Well, the first part of that one sounds like the Cylons took over the show, which I'm not so happy with. But yeah, okay, well you can probably, I guess, in rotation. Put him in the rotation. I'll put him in the hot rotation bin, John. Good, I'm glad we got something. So we'll probably be hearing those a lot until it turns out that... Hold on a second. Hold on. You have not informed me of the score. Apparently Mexico is 1-0.

1:21:01 Oh, you got me. Somebody in the chat room. Oh, here it is. It's because I got... Oh yeah, no, it's on the screen. I just didn't have the screen up. Well, we're 71 minutes into the game and the score is Mexico 1, Netherlands 0. Oh boy. Very exciting game. Very exciting game. They're kicking the ball. Move onward, onward. We got stuff to talk about today. David Foley, 33333 Los Gatos, the cat. California. ITM, gentlemen, and close. Please find some value for value. Thanks for your great work on the Dude Ben's Missing Floppy Drives. Send some of that great no agenda karma my way, please. Dude named Ben. You've got karma. Nice. He'll be our sole executive producer for show.

1:21:52 670 oh or 630 no no no these along with our Sir Jonah Rosso, so yeah, okay, yeah, right you put yeah He's also an executive producer, but he's just so monetary one on this spreadsheets true. Yeah true hmm sir Michael Schumacher in kelsey beer Ville, California two three four five six which is what I should probably formula are I institutionalized these 1-2-3-4-5-6. Long email sent to adam at curry.com. Thanks for hitting him in the mouth, Sir Mike, formerly of Rancho Cucamonga, now of Kelseyville. Am I supposed to be reading something? Well, he sent you a note to adam at curry.com. No, I know, but does that mean there's... Generally?

1:22:45 Well, I don't know. You take a look and see if it's for the show or it's for you. I try to respond. I don't remember getting any email from him, actually. Shoemaker, right? Yeah. Schumacher. Schumacher. I don't know. Send it again, Michael. And we'll read it later. Christopher Hefley in Galleon, Ohio. $200. I'm very happy. We did miss that. Michael's donation brings him to Baronet. He'd like to be known as Baronet of Lake County. Do you get to choose a protectorate when you're Baronet, or is that only when you're a Baron? Baron of? Right, but he's a Baronet. Well, he's already a Baron. He's never chose his protectorate. He decided to go to Baronet first. No, he says, donations should bring me to Baronet. Yeah. Isn't Baronet after Baron? No, Baronet is before Baronet. Who's in charge of the peerage here? I don't have my list in front of me.

1:23:46 I'm pretty sure Baron is 3x and Baronette is 4. Well this is news to me. I thought... Alright. Well whatever. Just a Baronette doesn't mean you're a little Baron. Your head shall be... Off with his head! You missed because he's too small as a Baronette. Whatever the case is he's of the Lake County's fine. We don't believe me. No one else is gonna take Lake County They make good wine though worries Christopher Hefley and galleon, Ohio $200 I'm very happy with this donation today finally reach my knighthood very nice happens to follow my birthday makes it even better We have him on the birthday list and the night list we do

1:24:28 If someone told me a year ago that I would have donated this much to a podcast, I would ask them where the crack house, where's the crack house that they came out of? Having said that, I wonder if I donated enough, seeing the hours of infotainment you two have provided me since being hit in the mouth two years ago. I love this show so much that I had to go buy a brand new iPod since my old one kept getting, taking a I kept taking a shit and would not charge, thus I was not able to get my no agenda fix. That's a piece of crap. You hear about the podcast app started crashing all of a sudden on everybody? Maybe, I don't know. He says it wouldn't take a charge.

1:25:06 See you to see see see you to even help move the economy along I would obviously like a birthday shout out for myself as well as for my beautiful daughter. You got her on there I think so Jersey. Yeah, I think so. I think so. Yeah Looking forward to the fun year the fun teen years. Yeah, you're gonna get a kick out of them. Yeah, I got her I would love the And then we'll go into it. I would love a karma for all all as well as the amazing jingle. You two are the best. Thank you for all you do. By the way, I want to call on Peter C. Norwood to get his knighthood now since he is the one who hit me in the mouth. All right. All right. And so he wanted to... You've got karma. I can't help it. It does make you laugh. It really does. Sir Siswell in Toronto, Ontario, 200 bucks.

1:26:01 Baronet of Upper Candanavia, actually. ITM Al-Anbagdadi. Here's hoping you actually use my moniker instead of my real name this time. Sir AJ is waiting for you to say it before updating the peerage map. Your anal-cis has been spot on. It's anal-isis. Analysis. Oh, analysis. That's cute. That's cute. It's been spot on. I must return value. Siswell signing off. Right on. Perfect. Erich von Marter in Van Nuys, California. Sent a note in handwritten longhand. Oh, nice. On composition paper torn out of one of those spiral binders torn out. Oh, nice. Three holes and then a bunch of little holes. So he's taking stuff from his schooling, I guess.

1:26:47 I read, no he says his handwriting needs work. Take a calligraphy course, Eric. I need deducing, I guess. Been listening since Adam's story about meeting that lady in the line, green dress, remember? Still makes me laugh. Thank you for your hard work and devotion. Karma for all. What is the lady in the lime green dress story? Lady in the lime green dress, remember? Still makes him laugh. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. I'll just roll with it.

1:27:33 Just roll my friend, roll. And finally last but not least our last associate executive producer Mark Milliman, Sir Mark Milliman I believe in Belgium. Oh no he's not in Belgium, he's in Longmont Colorado. Which is where he just came in as a check, it's easier you don't have to actually put the joint down and compose anything, you just let the bank do the work. It's a joke. Yeah, it's not a good one. No, I'm sorry. Sorry. Sorry, Mark. Anyway, that's it. That's our group. I want to remind people that we have a show on Thursday. This was a good group of producers. But Dvorak.org slash NA is a good place to go to help us for Thursday. Also, channel Dvorak.com slash NA No Agenda Show and No Agenda Nation both have buttons you can click off on for alternative donation lists. And I'll be upgrading and updating the Dvorak.org slash NA page this week.

1:28:37 Excellent. And of course these are very real credits, these executive producer and associate executive producer credits. You can use them anywhere credits are recognized. You can use them at the Producers Guild if you want. I know people who have done that. You can use them on LinkedIn, you can use them on your CV, your resume, and unlike the phonies in Hollywood, we will gladly vouch for you. Besides monetary contributions, we are very happy with you going out there and propagating our formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up! Shut up! John.

1:29:25 I got a note from somebody. Yes, I did. Open the mailbag! From Morgan. And detected some abnormality. Now you're a big microphone guy. We haven't really talked about this on the show and the reason why is because I'm afraid to get you started. John has an unhealthy obsession with microphones. This is a new one today that he called me yesterday on the Skype I just have and it wasn't even I had the the uh my my regular Skype on you called but it's very strange I'm like hey Hey, how does this mic sound? I'm gonna switch it from cardioid to whatever. I'm gonna roll off 10b. I got an A, I got a figure A with this dual capsule. I have to say that I like the sound of this mic. I really do. This is a good sound. But you know, you have different mics and with different characteristics. Do you recall on the last show you got a phone call? Yeah. And it was some bullcrap about

1:30:25 What was it about your, just lower your credit card payments? Right. It was Rachel or somebody calling. Right. So this is what Elizabeth Warren was supposed to put a stop to, but good work, Liz. So Morgan says, oh my goodness, Adam, listen, time code 22.04. And this is right as you're hanging up the phone and coming back from this phone call back to the, to the program and I'm talking and We had to do some actual CSI work on this. Alright. So, to my analysis, and this is a pretty heady document, and I had to Google a lot, and I spent a lot of time on it. Aha! Stop, rotate, enhance. John, did you break wind on the show? No. Yes you did!

1:31:13 No. Yes you did. Are you kidding me? This is so clear that you... Come on, what is that? I don't know, but it's not... John! The mic's not that good. Yeah it is. I'm telling you, it's so obvious. I spent a lot of time on it. Yes, but I did. I don't remember it, but I'll just take your word for it, Mr. Investigator. Come on, man. There's nothing funnier than a good fart. Yeah, I know but the problem with that theory is that it could have been anything making that noise because you have no idea from here to the phone what's in between. Well then what? I guess I haven't upgraded my archival duties and so it's like, a lot of stuff that falls over. What is that? Well, I'll take your word for it if it's not. You send me the whole clip and I'll figure it out.

1:32:00 Doesn't even sound like a fart. Well, it's heavily processed obviously. Hello. Our good buddy Reverend Manning is back with an analysis and a new meme for us regarding the Supreme Court of the United States cell phone search, which he also of course immediately identified this as bogative meaning it It only takes 15 minutes now for law enforcement to obtain a warrant and meanwhile they're putting your cell phone in a Faraday bag so you can't remote wipe it. But the Supreme Court ruled on yesterday that the police officers in the process of an arrest cannot search your cell phone without a warrant which

1:32:49 It would only delay the process by half an hour because cop to police officers today can actually text a judge Tell them they've got you there and you got a you got a phone they want to look at and the judge in the middle of the night can send you a text back and say he approves and bingo boomshaka-laka I like that. I think we need to incorporate that into our vocabulary. You should make that as a little bitty clip. Bingo boom shakalaka. I'm way ahead of you, buddy. Yeah, there you go. Oh, fantastic. Bingo boom shakalaka. Boom shakalaka. This is great. We just dropped at the end of anybody's clip. Yeah, whatever it is. Send me a copy. Hold on, let me try this. Yeah, I know how we can do this. We can try...

1:33:33 Okay, stand by. Oh, this is gonna be good. We're doing it on the fly for you ladies and gentlemen. Here we go. I have two words for you. Bingo boom shakalaka! That's three, but okay. Bingo boom shakalaka. I love him! Very funny. Well, I love Joe Biden. Oh boy. So I got a clip. Now this is Joe in front of some veterans group or something and he makes a comment here that I challenge. But it's Joe and he's, I don't know what his view of the world is, but you know, right, most recently, of course, he's getting into a beef with Hillary about who's more poor. Yeah. And it's a known fact that it has to be him. This guy is the only, probably the only person who's ever been in Congress and never took advantage of the situation. And he just, he just likes being in Congress. People, the first thing I sat with him when I hired them, I said, look, here's the deal.

1:34:32 If you ever have any problem at home, no matter what it is, you don't have to tell me what it is. Because sometimes it's embarrassing. My child has a drug problem. I'm taking him to the counselor. The vast majority of parents face that. What? The vast majority of parents have that? What did he say? That's what he says. He says that he, I've got a problem, Joe. I got to take the day off. My son's got a drug problem. I got to take him to counseling. Yeah. The vast majority of parents face that, which means that this

1:35:22 that the vast majority of kids don't smoke dope or they don't have a beer or do whatever they do, whatever age they are. I'm not gonna argue that, but they're not so bad off and they're so wasted that they need to be taken to counseling. Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine. I don't know, man, anything could happen. It's bullcrap, and I think he must have must be his kids. There must be a bunch of druggies So anything I can say I mean that's why I wouldn't be guy wouldn't go out in public and say that The more makes an assumption my kids my kids have never needed counseling for drugs None of them no and that's three you're above the average the more I'm in the vast minority Yeah, the more I look at the field

1:36:09 The more I'm liking Joe. I think he would be a pretty good president. He is the dumbest of the group. No, no, Kerry's dumber. Oh, well, maybe. But he's compassionate. Kerry carries himself as though he's not dumb. Joe's a goofball. I'm going to have to move over to your side of the camp for a number of reasons on Pocahontas, Elizabeth Warren. So this, something has really tipped very, very drastically with the Hillary love. And actually it was the, what is this, the National Review wrote a very, very good piece saying Elizabeth Warren is the Obama of 2016.

1:37:00 Well, this is one of the things that came up in a conversation with a guy who wrote Blood Feud, the Obamas versus the Clintons. And he believes that Obama is the one promoting this because apparently in meetings with his close He says he wants a mini-me, that would be his words, a mini-me to run for president. And mini-me doesn't mean a small black man. What it means is someone that came in out of the blue at the last minute and charged Hillary and knocked her off their pedestal. And I got a couple of interesting little clips about this, and I think a lot of it stems from this particular one.

1:37:37 I think this would be clip. Oh God, I hope I didn't lose the clip. I've got Obama. Try Obama Clinton 2. Oh, okay. Hold on a second. You got it. Animosity was the fact that Obama reneged on this deal that I just mentioned between them. Is this the author, uh, Klein? Is that who's talking to me? Yeah, it's Klein. Now, okay, Obama clip one, I guess I've, you know, this is I don't have an Obama clip one. Yeah, well, that's the problem. Let me tell you what the Obama clip one says. I'll just reiterate and then you can play clip two, which refers to Obama clip one. He says that, and I believe this to be a true story, he says that before the 2012 presidential re-election campaign, Obama and Clinton were playing golf, which is quite likely. And Clinton wasn't a big supporter of his, Bill Clinton we're talking about, and he says he'll do a deal. The deal is, I will give a rousing speech, which he did at the 2012 convention, promoting you

1:38:41 to be, you know, just to give you a big boost and make the public associate you with me and all the rest of it in exchange for you supporting Hillary in 2016. Obama says, yep, no problem. That's a deal. And then shortly thereafter, like within the last year or so, Bill asked him about his support for Hillary because he's not noticing any. And he says, yeah, I don't know who I'm going to support. And so that's what the second clip refers to. Now, I want you to play the second clip and then I have an anecdote which I think may shed light on this.

1:39:28 Clinton and Obama go at each other in various ways. For instance, recently Bill Clinton said that Obamacare was a flawed law from a Democrat, that's a big deal, and needed to be fixed. And that the best person who could fix it, naturally, was his wife Hillary Clinton. And Hillary has said that the IRS scandal is a scandal. Which of course the White House didn't like to hear at all. So the Clintons are beginning to put space between themselves and Obama. Now, if you remember, and we did this on the show, I think it was last year when they were having the economic meltdown, we're gonna go with the fiscal cliff, just know that's actually longer than a year ago. The fiscal cliff, we're gonna follow the fiscal cliff and all this. And so they're trying to do emergency budgets and all this stuff. And there was a frontline that was done on this specific budget.

1:40:20 deal made between Obama and Boehner to stop the nonsense and put an end to it and Obama reneged on it. That thought it would have at least been nice for President Obama to say, well you know I'm kind of leaning towards Hillary Clinton in 2016. He has not gone that far. I don't expect him ever to. Is that fueling a little bit of the hostility there as well? Well you know Bill and Obama struck a deal during a golf game in 2011 in the fall of 2011, in which Bill promised, Bill Clinton promised to back Obama if in return Obama would come out for Hillary in 2016. And that was a deal they made and Bill was made good on the deal. He gave that speech that we all remember at the Democratic National Convention in August of 2012. And then after he got elected, Barack Obama, in typical fashion I must say, reneged on the deal and said to Clinton, I'm told by several sources,

1:41:19 I'm not so sure who I'm going to support in 2016. Ooh, interesting. This book and everything is just you know, it may not even be true. It's obviously just an entire play by the Clintons. Yeah. Yeah, it's a hit job. Yeah, Clint. Yeah. Although he seems to be supporting her in some funny way. Anyway, so this was on Frontline. He did the exact same thing with Boehner, which is to tell the guy to, you know, yeah, yeah, done deal. And so I was thinking about now he's done this a couple of times and this is kind of a style of his. And then I remember when I was in Jakarta,

1:41:59 Now, Obama was raised by...it was raised in Indonesia in extremely formative years, first grade to fifth grade. Can you think of a lot of style... Hold on, hold on a second, hold on a second. Say that again about Jakarta. I was in Jakarta. So I've given a talk in Jakarta and they're treating me with the royal...just royally. And the... Can you give me a frame this timing? It was, I don't know, it was like a few years ago. But the point was is that they put me up at this really expensive hotel and they did all these things and then I, but I needed to get to the airport. So I started pestering the woman that ran the whole thing about how to get to the airport on the way back because I had to leave the next day. Or no, I had to leave on a Sunday. And I said, you should, she said, oh, I got a car lined up for you.

1:41:19 I'm not so sure who I'm going to support in 2016. Ooh, interesting. This book and everything is just you know, it may not even be true. It's obviously just an entire play by the Clintons. Yeah. Yeah, it's a hit job. Yeah, Clint. Yeah. Although he seems to be supporting her in some funny way. Anyway, so this was on Frontline. He did the exact same thing with Boehner, which is to tell the guy to, you know, yeah, yeah, done deal. And so I was thinking about now he's done this a couple of times and this is kind of a style of his. And then I remember when I was in Jakarta,

1:41:59 Now, Obama was raised by...it was raised in Indonesia in extremely formative years, first grade to fifth grade. Can you think of a lot of style... Hold on, hold on a second, hold on a second. Say that again about Jakarta. I was in Jakarta. So I've given a talk in Jakarta and they're treating me with the royal...just royally. And the... Can you give me a frame this timing? It was, I don't know, it was like a few years ago. But the point was is that they put me up at this really expensive hotel and they did all these things and then I, but I needed to get to the airport. So I started pestering the woman that ran the whole thing about how to get to the airport on the way back because I had to leave the next day. Or no, I had to leave on a Sunday. And I said, you should, she said, oh, I got a car lined up for you.

1:42:51 And I said, oh okay, so there's a car and it's gonna pick me up on Sunday. For some reason right from the beginning I didn't believe her. And so I kept pestering everybody in the company, there's a car coming, there's a car coming, yeah, there's a car coming. There's gonna be a limo coming to pick you up. The limo never arrived. I had to get a taxi from this rather expensive place and go, and I got to the, it didn't bother me because I got there, but I wrote them asking what would happen, what went wrong. I never heard from anybody. They never wrote back or anything. And so I was I always thought this was very peculiar until I talked to a friend of mine who spent a lot of time living in the Philippines and he says that these cultures over there, they'd want to please you by saying yes to everything. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We're going to do this. We're going to do that. And then they don't want to talk to you after that because they they're going to renege on those deals. I believe Obama picked this up from the Indonesian culture.

1:43:49 It's like you say, okay, I'm stuck on the golf course. I'm stuck on a boat. I'm stuck in a golf course with Bill He wants me to do this and you know Bill's pushy and say yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no, no. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you'll come to that Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'll support Hillary. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, let's get the game over and that's the end of it I think that this is a cultural thing that he picked up by being raised from the disformative years in the first of the fifth grade in Indonesia It's interesting end of story. Yeah. Oh, let's go back. Oh Miss Mickey, who lived in Nagasaki for five years, she always... and she ran her husband's art thing that they were doing there. It was like 20 people. It was a huge, huge operation. And of course there's a six-foot-one blonde woman with a whole bunch of Japanese. And she said no one would ever say no.

1:44:41 They just never say no and then they would say yeah, yeah, no problem. And just but things just wouldn't happen They just wouldn't do it, but then they never say no I didn't do it or I can't do it or it's not possible Yes, everything's okay. So what it is and of course that's you know, that's Japan, but it's in the region somewhere He says it's in the Philippines to the exact same thing happened to me in Indonesia doesn't surprise me at all Huh? So that's a warning to travelers. Yes If they say the limo will be here, it's pretty much bullshit. There you go. Yes. The limo will be here, Mr. Dvorak. So anyway, so this guy, this character from the book, he has one more little story that I think is interesting, which is his Obama on vacation story anecdote that is in the book and is quite funny. Well, you know, they would they go on vacation most frequently to Martha's Vineyard?

1:45:34 And I spoke to two of the housekeepers in the house that they rented, this huge mansion that they rented. You know, let me just stop right here. This is this does not work this way. Even non-presidential people, even Hollywood movie stars, everybody who works for them has a non-disclosure agreement. They can't just go blabbing to some Ezra Klein dude or wherever it is. Yeah, no, I believe that's true. But this is still a great story. You're like interrupting what I think is a great story. I'm sorry. I'm going to go back here. I won't interrupt. Well, you know, they would they go on vacation most frequently to Martha's Vineyard?

1:46:15 And I spoke to two of the housekeepers in the house that they rented, this huge mansion that they rented. for $50,000 a week by the way. And they told me that both of these, two different sources, that the Obamas sleep in separate rooms, that as far as they could tell they don't visit each other at night, and that during the evening Obama sits in that bed in his own bedroom smoking cigarettes, eating junk food, and chomping on Murdoch taffy or Murdoch...

1:46:51 All foods that are not allowed in the White House. Well, this has been the week of just making fun of people. I'm sure you heard about it if you didn't see it. The CNBC outing of Tom Collins. Tim Collins. How is this guy outed? I thought he was out of the closet. Well, there's a couple things I want to say about it because that is the meme. This Tim Cook, of course, from Apple. Yeah, Tim Cook from Apple. Supposedly, I saw this. I didn't put it in my part of the show, but I saw the story and I was like, how is he outed? And why is everyone making a big deal about this? Well, that's the question I want to pose. Let's listen to what happened. This is CNBC and I guess they're talking to

1:46:15 And I spoke to two of the housekeepers in the house that they rented, this huge mansion that they rented. for $50,000 a week by the way. And they told me that both of these, two different sources, that the Obamas sleep in separate rooms, that as far as they could tell they don't visit each other at night, and that during the evening Obama sits in that bed in his own bedroom smoking cigarettes, eating junk food, and chomping on Murdoch taffy or Murdoch...

1:46:51 All foods that are not allowed in the White House. Well, this has been the week of just making fun of people. I'm sure you heard about it if you didn't see it. The CNBC outing of Tom Collins. Tim Collins. How is this guy outed? I thought he was out of the closet. Well, there's a couple things I want to say about it because that is the meme. This Tim Cook, of course, from Apple. Yeah, Tim Cook from Apple. Supposedly, I saw this. I didn't put it in my part of the show, but I saw the story and I was like, how is he outed? And why is everyone making a big deal about this? Well, that's the question I want to pose. Let's listen to what happened. This is CNBC and I guess they're talking to

1:47:37 the reporter from the New York Times, and then he went around and he went to find gay CEOs and no one wanted to be in his article. Your column this weekend looks at Lord Brown at BP. Yes, former CEO of BP. Interesting cultural corporate story. Well, I interviewed him last week. He has written a book in which he's described the frankly tortured life he led as a gay CEO of a major company. But what I find so surprising about this is he becomes the first person ever at a fortune five hundred or footsie one hundred company to publicly acknowledge that he's gay. And after all those advances in gay civil rights you would think CEOs especially are measured by objective criteria which is financial performance. We even have pro football players on television acknowledging they're gay. Marriage at the state level. So what I'm really exploring in the column and using his experience as a model is

1:48:33 Why would this be in the corporate world and what does this mean? And I just found it very, very fascinating. Of course, there are gay CEOs of major companies and I reached out to many of them and I have to say I got an extremely cool reception. Not one would allow to be named. I think Tim Cook is fairly open about the fact that he's gay at the head of Apple, isn't he? Alright, so here's what, this clip is very troubling to me in so many ways.

1:49:20 You know, we're in this age of equality and women are getting the raw deal. So we have to, you know, that's the equality and you can't use words and all this stuff. Income inequality too. All this stuff. And words you can't use, redskins, you can't say any of this stuff, fighting Irish, you know, whatever. I read this morning, we have to rename the Apache helicopter and all this stuff. And then here's, I think the columnist sounds gay. I mean, gee, sorry to generalize, but yeah, sounds. Eb, he did his story on gays and then he's appalled that no CEOs wanted to talk about being gay. Which by the way, isn't that the whole point? That it's supposed to be no big deal? And here is the gay guy making a big deal about the fact that no one wants to talk about it? It's something that's not supposed to be a big deal because we want you can love whoever you want to love.

1:50:20 And yet here they are making an actual big deal of it and then when this Brit who... and the Brits I think are actually pretty cool about stuff because Brits are all gay as far as I'm concerned. No, that's a fact. Yeah, fact. Let me look at the donation list. Oh yeah, yeah, they're all gay. Yeah, I think that's pretty much... And then everyone's in horror because, oh, you've I think you've I didn't quite say I think you've outed Tim Cook. It's like, can we grow up about all of this? And this is now and the reason I play it is to analyze that this is now suddenly a big deal. And, oh, CNBC are so stupid. They outed Tim Cook, who if you really don't give a crap, then why are you giving a crap? Look at yourself, because everyone is the people. Yes, I have to interrupt.

1:51:15 The game is over. Netherlands 2, Mexico 1. Excellent. Excellent. You may continue. Thank you very much. Well, I've just got an email in from Brian, the Gay Crusader. And whenever it comes to LGBTQIAAP, we always listen to our Gay Crusader. He has the cape! Tim Cook has been out for years. It is well publicized when he became CEO of Apple. The columnist sounds like he's doing a bad impression of a gay man. Well, that's another good point. Thank you very much. Oh, that's a funny observation. New York gays have funny... So the only thing I feel that is happening here is, and this is just from a media production

1:52:02 an executive standpoint. Gay equals ratings. No matter what you do, bring some gay into it, you're getting ratings. Okay? Gay equals power. Because, you know, if you're doing anything against the gays, like Putin, we know how that went. You could really... it's powerful. And here's CNBC trying to catch on to this, and it's really despicable I guess is what I'm saying. The misuse, the misuse and abuse. I'm not going to argue the despicable nature of the whole gestalt of the episode. But here's what bothers me, although it's got nothing to do with anything you said.

1:52:46 But it has to do with the competency of CNBC. The gay crusader knew that Tim Cook had come out, and I knew he'd come out, and everybody in the Bay Area knows he's gay. and the CNBC guy drops it as though he's the only one who knows, he's unaware of all this stuff that came before. In other words, he's a commentator for CNBC and he doesn't know what's going on in that regard. Now what really happened, obviously, it seems to me, the reporter sent out his flyers to everybody. Tim Cook is like Steve Jobs, he doesn't want to talk to anybody. He says, can I talk about gay CEOs?

1:53:23 And Tim Cook's of a second fuck you is what he said. Fuck you. I don't want to talk to you douchebag. Yeah, exactly. Well, here's the point, America, who cares? Who cares? But you do. You see, that's the problem because you're not really over it. You play a big game. You talk a big game, but you're really not over it. You aren't most of America who and I will. And I'm looking at all the liberals. You know what? They really they're not over it. And they question their own sexuality. I just want to say, you know, America's got a long way to go when it comes to this. A long way. Can you rewind the show, by the way? Rewind it? When I connected the Netherlands to Mexico 1, because I actually called the score. Why? Why would I? What do you want me to do? I don't understand. What do you want me to do? Oh, never mind. I was just going to gloat. I was getting you off the topic. Yes. All right. Quick little karma to Chard Man, whose triumph was taken out by Adir. You've got karma.

1:54:25 And now what we're... He hit a deer? He's lucky to be alive! You know how... There's a lot of deer hits up north. You know how you get killed when you hit a deer? His foot will... his hoof will slice your neck open. What happens usually, depends on the car you're driving, this way you should drive a aerodynamic car. Like your 1997 Lexus. 92. Oh, sorry. It's aerodynamic. The deer would go flying over the roof. Most people drive these SUVs up in these parts of the neck of the woods and they hit the deer and the deer crashes through the windshield. And then the hoof kills you. And the deer is not dead. And he panics and kicks and swings his horns around and kicks and kicks and kicks and kicks you to death. In the car. Yep. That's the number one cause of death up north.

1:55:15 Okay, before we... I just... just... because I need to talk to America here for a moment and continue. So if you're not over the gay thing America, if you have a long way to go, until you just don't give a crap anymore, okay? The View. Apparently everyone's been fired at The View, I don't know, except for Whoopi Goldberg. And I could care less, I don't watch The View. And I used to like her a lot when she was just doing stand-up and her early movies and stuff. And she became very annoying to me. But she did something that is part of the vocabulary of people who watch The View. And I don't know, do they have no ratings? Do they defy everybody? I have no idea what's going on. Maybe nobody watches. But this was a conversation about words.

1:56:03 And her take, and actually the panel's take on words and bullying and using phrases like, you know, redskins or whatever it is. And there was so much going on here and it just bothered me. And this is, what's his name, Kane? He's, I think he's on CNN. He's kind of, he's a Republican or right-leaning guy. What's his name? Anyway, will came will came Will came Oh, okay. So here they are on just this clip. It's a little it's bothersome You can't even understand what they're saying obviously This is so inappropriate Russell in this commentary compares Isis this group running around the Middle East lopping heads off left and right to Fox News

1:56:51 news who oh they might persuade somebody and I think it's part of this whole trend we have now we elevate words to the most harmful thing in society how dare you say something that could offend somebody that's right how dare you say something that could hurt my feelings let me tell you why well because America has we have a history of utilizing words to harm people and hurt people and the people who have been on the other side of it I think are at the point where they're saying, you know what, this is not okay anymore and you gotta roll with it because... Oh, here it is! Roll with it! At some point we all have to grow up. And verbal abuse is worse than physical abuse. There was a time when it was sticks and stones could break my bones but your words cannot hurt me. But that's not what he's trying to say. I don't believe in that saying one bit sticks and stones may hurt...

1:57:44 Words may break you, but words will never hurt you. So this is what we've talked about many times. What I grew up with, what you grew up with, was sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me. And these people go ballistic. Words do hurt! Yeah. Don't use that red skin thing anymore. I'm not comfortable with it. Don't say this word because I don't like it. I'm Irish. I don't want to hear this. Every one of these groups has the absolute right to say, this has been harmful. This has hurt my parents. This has hurt my grandparents. And don't use it anymore or you're going to hear about it. Or use it and don't be surprised if people are pissed. We'll all be out of business. We'll all stop talking. Everybody's offended all the time from the fighting in Ireland.

1:58:44 Did you hear that? She says spoken like a true white guy. Yeah, she's a racist. That's racist Yeah to an extreme and of course the guy didn't catch her to call her out on it He just he didn't he just let it let it slide but No, she's a horrible racist. You can't say... it's like you can't say sticks and stones will break my bones and then you know you can't do all this and then turn right around and then... she actually says something even funnier. I don't mean it in a bad way. I don't mean it in a bad way. Okay. Yeah, you do. If you mean it in a bad way, you wouldn't have said it. So apparently you can do that as long as you're Whoopi Goldberg, but you can't do it if you're not.

1:59:41 Well, that's why nobody's watching the show. Hello. Well, that's the question. Is nobody is actually nobody watching the show? I think those alternative shows there's a couple of them to talk. That's the table, the cutter. I know they have a bunch of these. There's about four clone shows that are taken off of the view. And I think that they're outperforming the view. And I think the view is needed to shake up and it will be they don't see whoopie as the problem. She's annoying. So apparently Brazil can't meet Germany in the final of the World Cup. Are they on the same side of the round? Yeah, so they can meet in the semi-finals. Well then who I have to look at the diet to look at the brackets. Well, then it could probably be so for the Well, what what's the it will be Brazil again? There any chance of Netherlands meeting Germany? Yes. Yes. Yeah, yeah Netherlands Germany. It can be Brazil Argentina or Netherlands Germany Wow

2:00:43 So Netherlands and Germany, that will be in a fight and the Germans will win that one. No, no, no, no, that could be the finals. It can be. Oh, that's a final. The finals could be Netherlands, Germany. The finals could be Netherlands, Germany for the semifinals, Brazil, Germany and Netherlands, Argentina. So it could be this would be the ultimate Brazil Argentina doesn't matter who wins Both countries need help. No. No, it doesn't matter even more so because the Brazilians hate the Argentinians. Hmm Oh, wow, that could be great. Yeah, that'd be a good one. That'd be good. All right Why are we even talking about that? Well, I had to correct us so you can't oh, yeah, cuz we predicted the on the impossible We predicted the impossible exactly

2:01:26 All right, Brazil Argentina, and I don't know what's gonna happen these other guys. I think it's about time now that We get into our segment dude named Ben. Oh Or do I do something else? I have something after that that I want to make sure that we get in why do you do that? I don't want to I don't want to forget whatever. I don't know what how I look for time I ran into you know we have a couple of famous Barons in Tokyo and And they do this kind of 20 second, they invented a presentation. Which is being done around the world now. Yeah, there's 700 venues for this. So they brought this woman, I'm watching what I thought was going to be an educational panel on

2:02:11 on C-SPAN, where they brought on a bunch of people to talk about technology and the media kind of thing. And they brought in this Adina Karasik, whatever they call her, K-A-R-A-S-I-K is her name, and she is the most astonishing bullcrap artist I have ever heard ever. that is, and she is the professor of media at Fordham, I believe. So let's first start with the introduction to her, which is... Introduction? I'm just, the way I did a very poor job of, okay, yeah. Kara, this is the Adina Karasik intro, not the, her intro.

2:02:55 We're going to start off with Dr. Ignat Krasik from Fordham University, who's going to be presenting a Pecha Kucha. It's in Austin too, by the way, we had one. It's very popular. It's incredibly popular. It's PowerPoint multimedia with video, audio, It's quite an amazing creation, to be perfectly honest. I'm sorry, John. We just have to reiterate, our Dame Astrid and Sir Mark in Tokyo invented this. Yes, they actually use it as a pedicure in the Wikipedia. They're mentioned prominently as the inventors.

2:03:38 Now, the way that she does them, she makes a horror show from what I can tell. And I only have her... First, she iterates her entire slideshow presentation. And I want you to listen to this carefully because she's got a word in here that I've never heard ever, and I couldn't find it trying to find it on Wikipedia. And you'll hear it. But then this is her intro, this is part two, this is her talking about her slideshow and she gives you the whole slideshow by talking about it. Then you can or don't have to, but you can play slide one, which was her talking about the same thing again. But I just want you to play this for one reason. This is the sort of professor

2:04:19 media that an Ivy League college might have. I don't know whether she's in her tenure or not, but I had... we in Silicon Valley, and you know this because you've heard these pitches, the kind of bullshit that flies, does not come close to this. Thanks Bob for inviting me here today. It's great to see you all. Yes, I I've created a Pecha Kucha. For those of you who don't know what it is, it's a Japanese form that basically takes sort of like an upgraded slideshow which takes 20 seconds, 20 slides and each slide is really you have 20 seconds. So it's quite a feat to be able to do it live.

2:05:00 Usually would be presenting this live, but because of technological difficulties today. I will be just presenting it to you as is Blather yeah, all right now we do the slide no she's not that's the end of her clip. Yeah, that's all ahead Okay, then try this. Okay, this is her summary of the thing. This is Adina summarizes. This is a good one. Basically, the presentation, which has gone through a number of titles, is now called

2:05:40 in the OSVR, the ghost is the machine. And basically it's an analytic meditation on the relationship between technology and spirituality in contemporary media. And so as you will see, it has, you know, there's references to Manifestations of the disembodied voice as in Spike Jones as her which I'm sure you've all seen or Apple Siri Rethinking it as a 21st century golem. It highlights how the mystical and the machine I like it are not oppositional, but that all media are extensions of man and cause, as in the words of McLuhan, deep and lasting changes and transform our environment. And basically, it opens up a space reminding us how the metaphysical and the physical are not oppositionary, but maybe perhaps it would be more wise to think of it more as a pataphysical space.

2:06:44 a pataphysical space? Pataphysical? Which reminds us how language and thereby all knowledge is spectral and virtual and simulacric. What is it? Simulacrac? What is that? This is a good word. I got it. Simulacrac is, she says there's spectral and virtual and... Bingo. Boomshakalaka. And simulacrac. ...and virtual and simulacrac. So without further ado, my My petacucha. Bingo, boomshakalaka, simulaklak. Perfect. By the way, a lot of these petacuchas are really good. I don't want anyone to get the idea of that. This one isn't. This is not. So I guess slide one of the petacucha and this is the same blathering craziness. It makes no sense to anybody. But it's actually quite entertaining. I'm enjoying it.

2:07:33 According to Derrida, spirit embodies the same and other simultaneously. We must rethink the relationship of the mystical and the machine. Not as oppositional, but that technology is aligning the binary between the physical, metaphysical, magical, and the real, reminding us how language and thereby all knowledge is spectral, virtual, simulacric. Boom, bing, bam, boom, chakalaka. Wow. You know what? Did she at any point during her petchakucha mention wearables? I don't know, I didn't watch anymore. Internet of things? I couldn't take it. She's so full of crap. And I'm like a McLuhan maven. I mean, I used to read all I've read all of his material. Who's McLuhan? Marshall McLuhan is a media theorist that died, you know, like 20 years ago, just before the Internet came around.

2:08:19 And he was a very controversial figure and he's Canadian. She's Canadian, by the way. And he's, you know, most people thought of him as something of a crackpot. He's the medium, is the message guy. Oh, okay. So he had a lot of interesting thoughts and observations, which were kind of, some of them were somewhat nutty, but a lot of them were thoughtful. And there's very much of it was like based on, uh, James Joyce style writing because he was a huge fan of James Joyce and this woman just seems to be just grabbing at straws and throwing words together. She's more famous as a poet which makes some sense. Yeah, yeah that does. Than anything else. Reminding me a bit of like word slam or whatever. Yeah and it's just like please, could you imagine taking her course? I mean you'd want to shoot yourself. People like this should not be teaching. Well that's the thing that's surprising is that she's actually teaching.

2:09:09 He's a professor. If anybody gets a clue on what she's talking about with Similacrac, I'd be interested. I couldn't find it. I googled my head off looking for it. Similacrac? Yeah, Similacrac. Did you try faroo.com? No, I haven't. I didn't know about it until we started the show, so I haven't. How do you spell, how do you think you spell Similacrac? I thought it was Similacrac. That would make sense. Similacrac. Let me give it a shot. In Faroo.com. And so far, no, I'm sorry. No luck. Similacrac. I don't know what it is. Wow.

2:09:54 Alright, let's do this now. I think his first name may have been Ben. So a guy named Ben, a dude named Ben. Exactly. Dude named Ben. We need a full jingle for this. This is the quite surprising to me at least the lack of true technical analysis of the situation with the IRS missing emails and now of course this goes on to the EPA missing emails just missing emails in general from our government here in the United States of Gitmo Nation. And the more C-SPAN I watch, the more disappointed I am by just no one giving one crap about what it really... It's not all that hard to understand, but I guess we have such disdain for people that we just say, C-drive, crash, glitch, end of story.

2:10:51 where just a little bit of research would really help you understand what's going on. We always keep our IT administrators, sysadmins in very high regard here on the No Agenda Show, but these of course have now been relegated to the single solitary level of... Dude named Ben. That is all people in IT are now a dude named Ben. And that's your government who thinks that way. So we got a lot of emails from dudes named Ben. And I think we should evaluate a few of these. Because the IRS most definitely was using an email archiving system known as SonaSoft, and they are backpedaling as much as they can.

2:11:36 And the system is, it actually is very interesting. Here's our first dude named Ben, Noah Jennignite. This is the, our dude named Ben who turned us on to the Spectre 360 software, employee spying software, John, remember this we had? Yep. That takes the screen movies of everything. Well, he says, I happen to be very experienced with SonaSoft's SonaVault email archiving software that the IRS is blaming for their lost messages. Total bullshit on their part, but what else is new? The SonaVault is deployed to archive every email that traverses the network just in case the email server, and he says just in case, all uppercase, or employees' hard drive crashes. So this solution they had in place is specifically in place

2:12:21 for this very reason in case a hard drive crashes. All email that enters an organization is intercepted, logged, indexed, and archived before it is sent on to the user's email boxes. This is so that an employee cannot delete, securely or otherwise, any emails received internally or externally before being recorded and archived. Any emails sent by a user are relayed to the SONA Vault before it is forwarded by the SMTP server to archive those as well. So let's just recap this. This is not like I've got emails and there's a backup process. No, the minute an email goes through the network, at the network level, the SonaVault catches it and saves it. SonaVault is an independent system from the email server on purpose.

2:13:08 It is an on-site appliance, not in the cloud, to make sure all emails are saved in case of a server or hard drive crash. It is used for incredibly fast searches of all email. This, of course, debunks the whole idea that they have no way to search their email. And the searches can be narrowed down to ranges, email boxes, keywords, etc. Sonosoft says, our dude named Ben, was my third level of backup, beside email clusters and nightly off-site disk to backups. Any IT guy or dude named Ben, worth his salt, knows backups and restore techniques. So did the IRS lose these backups? No effing way. Let's go on to our next. Now Sonosoft made a statement

2:13:54 And this is our dude named Ben who says, I am a new IT manager for a large public accounting firm and have worked in the IT risk and security industry for several years. This includes implementing, evaluating, and auditing companies' IT security environment and best practices, including Sarbanes-Oxley, HIPAA, and others, each of which has strict retention and data archiving policies. Today I was reading Sonosoft's blog post denying that they have the IRS's email archives and I noticed a few nuances I want to point out. Their main point that is repeated several times is as follows, quote, Sonosoft does not have IRS email. Sonosoft never had access to IRS email.

2:14:32 This is interesting because the stress that they stress they do not currently have IRS email, which is true, and they never had access to IRS email. They do not say they never had IRS email or the email wasn't archived, only they did not have access. So the access language is interesting because Sonosoft is attempting to tell everyone what likely happened. So this is what... this is the sleuthing from our dude named Ben. SonaSoft has safeguards and special algorithms to protect the SonaVault email archive from mischievous IT administrators who might be tempted to delete or tamper with the archived email. Any attempt to delete or modify the SonaVault email archive will capture the altered text, date stamp the attempt, and send out various alerts to IT personnel and management that an attempted breach occurred.

2:15:20 The original email will not be changed in any way. The only way that email can be deleted from the archive is through Sona Vault's expiration policies. Now this is where we get down to the heart of it. The administrator can set retention policies to purge the archive of emails that have reached an expiration date, which is often set to a seven-year period. And this is where it gets interesting, John. It seems to be pretty much company policy across the board to limit everybody's inbox to 2 to 250 megabytes, and to start deleting after 30 to 60 days. Now this doesn't mean that the Sonosoft solution hasn't captured all this stuff, but it is very possible that the hard drive crash certainly removed mislearners emails, but that the policy set, or set in hindsight, purged the emails from the big backup solution.

2:16:16 A dude named Ben who worked for a large oil and gas company with two X's in it. During my tenure, they moved to a rather annoying email policy. The inbox was limited to 250 megabytes. After 12 months, emails were moved to a to-be-deleted folder, and after another 30 or 60 days, they were deleted. The purpose of this was to force us to flush out our inbox in case litigation was to pop up, to limit the amount of discovery that could be done. This is a large oil and gas company. Their solution was to save the individual files as .msg files to the shared server. That part was moderately inconvenient, and for people in finance or treasury, when you work in a refinery and do engineering support, your records and historic references can be very important. And it doesn't always make sense to save that stuff to a central LAN. We used to joke it was good to get put on the litigation hold because all of those restrictions disappeared.

2:17:09 This is how I think the whole Sarbanes-Oxley thing has been circumvented. It's a big joke, John. I don't think that everyone has all these policies to strip email out and get rid of it. Well, this reminds me of this, you know, the modern board, especially in the tech company. I was in one board meeting once and some guy was very, the secretary, was very assiduous about writing down every detail of the meeting and after the meeting he got chewed out for writing down any details. Right, just for having done it at all, yeah. And it would be like you, you know, somebody, it should be Joe Blow stood up and discussed the,

2:17:56 the policies regarding personnel, that's it. You know, one short sentence about what he's, you know, or nothing. where just nothing happened in this meeting. And this kind of thing is, yeah, that's what American business does. We go out of our way to obfuscate because of litigation. The stuff you run into in discoveries is nightmarish. Here's an email from a dude named Ben. He says, I'm working for a defense contractor that had a whistleblower problem. Soon afterwards, a new email policy came out Email older than six months is deleted from the server and you're prohibited from saving email on your local drive. If you're in a position where you would receive email that needs to be saved longer for compliance reasons, then you have to take a class, install software that would tag the software for archive. The official reason given was the cost of backups. Policies to prevent employees from access to data are everywhere. The cost of backups? Yeah, yeah.

2:19:00 I guess they've never known it's been to Costco and looked at the price of a terabyte drive. And then the final from a dude named Ben who is a supply officer in the US Navy currently serving in Italy. It is Navy policy. We get only 200 megabytes of storage space on our exchange server. And by the way, this is the big part of the problem is exchange server. Every day before I go home, I have to go through my emails and move older emails to a .PST file on my desktop. We are not allowed to have the .PST files on network storage, so if a hard drive goes, you lose everything, as the Navy is far too cheap to pay for hard drive recovery, and the technicians are overworked and underpaid, and they're all named Ben, so they don't give a two shits about them.

2:19:43 Navy IT is supposed to backup the emails going through the server to tape for investigative purposes, but I wouldn't be surprised if that doesn't happen at all. Or, as I've seen on multiple occasions, the tapes fail or weren't written correctly and the backups are useless. IT and the government is a joke! It was just a few months ago that we upgraded from Windows XP and Office 2003 to Windows 7 and Office 2010. Well, I do think the IRS is using these hard drive failures as an excuse to cover up wrongdoing. I wouldn't be surprised if their IT department failed too. So what do we make of all this? Throw out all computers. And of course, and now... What do we make of it? Well, what I make of it is it probably is just like, this is an out of control corrupt government.

2:20:35 doing what it can to cover up anything it does. And if total disdain for the public, for the regulations, and it is obvious... They're the ones that make all these stupid regulations. They make all these regulations that go out of control because, you know, I've always said that, well, we got a do-nothing Congress. I always tell people you should be thankful. Yeah. Yeah. Because when the Congress is doing something, it's usually screwing stuff up. Now here's what's going to happen. And everybody's apparently in violation of the Federal Records Protection Act. Yeah. And I have a piece on that, but first, here's what's going to happen. Nothing, no one will be made an example of, and unlike, the IRS is very specific and actually very personal to me, they make examples of people all the time. You want to prove that you don't have to pay taxes? Wesley Snipes go to jail for three years. You know, they always take some

2:21:32 Schlag from the entertainment industry who got screwed by managers and agents. Sorry didn't take a really Nelson got screwed by the James Brown Everybody is all they're always out to make an example of somebody and screw them and always a bit usually a very popular Singer yeah, and while I think it is important to remind people that they have a duty. You know there's all kinds of negative connotations for the citizen And of course, no one is going to be made example of. It is very clear that this company, Sonosoft, had their network-based archiving system in place. This was expressly deleted. It seems to be

2:22:19 the way it's done in big business and government alike, because we just don't want to have any record of anything. And by the way, this is not just this government. And this is unfortunately where the conversation is going to go. This has happened so many times, and you might recall this even happened with the Bush administration. Do you remember this little ditty? Here's ISA, by the way. This is going to get play, and the whole thing is going to be, oh yeah, You think you guys are clean? You lost emails too. I assume that the robust tool you're now using to go through and recapture the PSTs and de-conflict the fact that PSTs often have multiple PSTs and you don't want to have 40,000 copies of the same email, so you have to take care of the duplicates. Those tools didn't exist for Lotus Notes in all likelihood because... Do you remember this story when they were trying to migrate from Lotus Notes and they lost 22 million emails?

2:23:16 Actually, I don't remember it. Oh, well, here's ISA talking about it. Way out by the time the Clinton administration was on its way out. Is that roughly correct? My understanding is that the way they, because they have like a limited de-due process for arms and it had to be built. That's my understanding. So here we have a situation where the Clinton administration is on a platform that has to be phased out. They're simply, they lost the war of who's going to supply emails. Great, great explanation of how it works, Daryl. Yes, we're dealing to dr. Weinstein's concern with you know getting good archives We're also dealing with the fact that I can't play my betamax tapes anymore either And I can't seem to find somebody who has a betamax player anymore and in a matter of a couple years It's gonna be hard for me to play my high-definition DVDs that were on the platform that now is being phased out nice, so that's how he explained it away Yeah, and it's total bullcrap

2:24:20 All of this is bullcrap. Oh, it's on the Lotus Notes, it's completely incompatible. All of this, all of this, Daryl Issa, all these, they're all... Vote all of them out. I'm sick and tired of the bunch of them. And the Obama administration, who are supposed to be the IT expert, sick of all of them. They're lying sacks. They lie, they cheat, they have total disdain for an educated public. Our public knows how email works. Our public understands how servers work. Here are the people who they call dudes named Ben, who actually run this stuff and they're saying, look, we're asked to basically obfuscate, delete, get rid of evidence, and the stuff that does work actually works in ways that are not properly explained to the public.

2:25:11 And what do we get? A glitch or whatever. And here's Mr. Kuhl, Koskinen, he's now on a PR drive to go and explain it to everybody. And of course, you know, he shows up on Brawl Show. Somebody like Paul Ryan accuses you basically of being a liar. That's a pretty serious allegation. Well, it is a serious allegation. We take the entire question seriously from the start. Bullshit. As I said when I began, The improper criteria used to highlight organizations for investigation just by their name was a mistake. I apologize to anybody who had their applications held up needlessly. Everybody needs to be confident that the IRS is going to treat them fairly no matter who they are. That's really interesting. He basically just said, okay, now that's not important. We're sorry about that. Which is what the whole thing was about in the first place.

2:26:00 Hey, we're sorry that we just looked at your names and said, hey, let's investigate these guys. Okay, but let's move on. What? This is brilliant. Republicans, Democrats, whatever organization they belong to. Shouldn't someone be blamed for this antiquated, awful system that allowed official records to simply disappear? Well, I think somebody, the IG is investigating all of the issues about the hard drive crash. And this is Brolf, the top-notch guy at CNN reading a scripted question and getting the hard drive crash as an answer. The hard drive crash. My approach when I parachute into these things is try to fix the problems rather than try to figure out how to blame. And some time ago I asked for us to review exactly how the email system runs and whether we couldn't convert to a more searchable, more retainable email system. I've also- Which is a lie.

2:26:54 They have an incredibly well-archived searchable system, as we just heard from someone who implements Sonosoft. Right, no, it's a fantastic system. ...said we need to respond to the concerns of the archivist, who came out with a very interesting... The archivist? They have a hoarder? ...recently that for agencies struggling moving forward into an electronic system... Wait a minute, the IRS is struggling to move into an electronic system? Are you kidding me? Plea, this is an insult. What a very interesting suggestion recently that for agencies struggling moving forward into an electronic system, they should take the senior people and make sure all of those records and emails are preserved. I should emphasize that all emails are not official records. So if an email is lost, it doesn't mean we've lost an official record. Now this is very now. Now that is a blatant lie. Emails, of course, are official records. That's why there's retention laws for your for your organization.

2:27:53 And now he's making something up. Why shouldn't taxpayers use the crashed hard drive excuse when undergoing an IRS audit? Yeah, and this is the script. And now listen to the answer. A number of them already have done that and the question has been is there a dual standard? And as I've said, the IRS has 24,000 Lawrence Lerner emails from this period. We historically, if a taxpayer has lost electronic records, have said if you have other indications and evidence of what went on, we'll take that from you. If you lose a document, it doesn't mean you lose the argument. We actually work with taxpayers to say, we'll look at other evidence like the 24,000 emails

2:28:32 and if we can find any evidence to support your case and in fact if the circumstances support your case we'll support you and you won't have any problem. Now this is so unfair what he's saying. So on one hand yes I've personally witnessed that they will take pretty much everything and believe you. And I'm just, this is my own, I've had so much shit with IRS in my past who are come in armed They will take all kinds of evidence, but if that's all your evidence, like this case where they cannot produce these emails, they're not saying, oh, but we have this to prove it. No, they're saying, we don't have it. And when you do that with the IRS, they say, well, sorry, you have nothing to show, you gotta pay for it. So it's a false premise that he's putting up here. He's Mr. Cool. Yeah, well...

2:29:24 I'm not gonna beat this guy. You know, there should... I will not stop. There's a couple things I won't stop. Haiti? I'm not gonna stop on Haiti and I'm not gonna stop on this. This is the essence. The fact that the system has tricked people into this income tax IRS system, which is not exactly what they say it is, and that's a whole different show and when you get into that people are like, oh you're just crazy. But okay. It's a system that is supposed to work, but it is based on trust. And if there's no real outrage, which I believe the media is trying to downplay this, so out and this is clearly a polishing, shiny, make him look good job with Brolf reading the script. If there's no outrage, we are told this is just, this is the end of it. Then there's nothing. There's nothing left. What are you gonna get angry about?

2:30:26 This is not your, uh, this is not the right battle. You're asking the wrong question. Okay, help me. Wealth tax! Yeah, yeah, different system you mean. Exactly. That would remove a lot of the problems, but of course that'll never happen and people don't even understand what that means. Happened in Switzerland. Yeah. Dude named Bet. Actually happened in France. A lot of countries have tried it, but most of the time they get, you know, the wealthy realize that this is not the best bet because many of them don't, would never pay income taxes. They don't really have an income. I don't like it, no.

2:31:11 Before we move on to thank our list of producers, you asked me to remind you about this study about online advertising. You asked me to remind you. Yeah, yeah, I did. Can't remember for the life of me why. This... well, and its effectiveness. Yeah, there was something that came out. I think I was tweeting or something and there was... oh man, I can't remember exactly. Wow, you should have asked me to remind you the other part of it then. Because you only asked me... Okay. I don't know what it is, but this is the study...

2:31:53 Yeah, this is a study. I think I printed it out. Maybe that's what it is. The reminder was to go look through the piles. It was an eBay study. eBay commissioned the study and they looked at online advertising and if it made any difference if you had ads on Google, Yahoo, Facebook or Twitter, if people bought more or less of the product on eBay. And it turned out there was pretty much no difference. Right. The only... Well, they found that nothing worked. Nothing! Nothing made a difference. No, they found that most online advertising... I'm just coming back to me. Yes, okay. Here it comes. You know, we do a lot of work on each individual, showing a kind of... it's last in, first out. What can I say? And that was old stuff. That's first in, last out kind of thing.

2:32:41 Yeah, they've done some studies. I have to get the documents now so I can get some clips or something, but the studies indicate that online advertising, internet advertising, which you just say all the time, it's not like this is the new thing, new concept to the show, you say this commonly, online advertising doesn't work. It doesn't do anything. It's just a big waste of time and money. Now, they did find that some small-time advertisers that might do a little search ad advertising benefits some, they will boost their business. Many of them will claim the greatest thing that's ever happened to them was Google.

2:33:21 But generally speaking, most of it, the banner ads and all the rest of it are... Well, even the Google ads don't work. Their point was if someone was truly looking for... was new to a category, had never purchased, that's where there is some slight indication that it does work. And this is actually in advertising in general, and I come from the advertising business. The question is always, does it make sense to advertise during Christmas? And if you look at all the studies that have been done, there is a, well I was going to buy it anyway because it's Christmas. And it doesn't really matter if I saw the ad or not. It's a very, very deep issue that has been going on for years. And it's the magic of advertising that advertising companies don't really want to talk about. And the effectiveness and the amount of money

2:34:20 I think some of that is unraveling now, as what we're seeing online. And I think the Ponzi scheme that is, in fact, Google, is coming undone. Well, I don't know if it's coming undone as we speak, but it doesn't seem to be... there's not a lot of excitement. By the way, this happened in the 99 to 2001 when we had the so-called dot-com crash. One of the huge One of the big piece of fallout was the advertising business. Everybody pulled out from advertising on the internet and it screwed up so many business plans that were counting on advertising. We're gonna do it through advertising. And of course we- We'll monetize through advertising. We'll monetize through advertising. And that's the reason that when we both went through that and we went through the rest of the bull crap that goes on

2:35:16 And I want to, I've got to play some stuff after the break here that's more bullcrap of the sort that we've seen. and been part of actually. But we've seen this play out before and that's why we don't do advertising. That's one of the many reasons we don't do advertising on this show. If we don't want to get dependent on it, obviously... We're on the other side of the equation, which is now with native advertising is bringing editorial and analysis and just words is turning it into Unbelievable blather, because everything is related to advertising. And we couldn't do any of this- You think you can talk about gays on a show with advertisers? Ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha! Yeah, hi, yeah.

2:36:05 Hey John, could you talk to Adam a little bit? We're getting some pushback from the ad sales guys and the problem with the ad sales guys is, you know, we've got the Korean smartphone that's advertising in your show. Yeah, we're gonna go big on that. Yeah, but the problem is, you know, they don't like Adam talking about gays and LGBTQIA. We think it's funny, and we really appreciate you know what you're doing and we don't want to tell you what you have to do in the show But maybe you could steer him away I was thinking maybe we could look at just for once in a while a substitute host you know we could yeah I know what you mean. I don't think that we're thinking of a guy father Robert Ballester. I'm

2:36:50 I'm all in with you guys, because this guy's been going off the deep end for God knows how long. We were thinking if we bring him- I do not under- I've talked to him about it. He doesn't seem to get it. Yeah. He's one of these- he's kind of an a-hole when it comes to this sort of thing. Maybe we should just ask him just to take a little break. He deserves it. He's moving anyway, and his wife- He's going to go- He may have to- What do you think about... You have a meeting with him because I've talked to him before. If he goes upstairs and has a meeting with you, I think it'll have a bigger impact. What do you think... We were thinking maybe you and Harry McCracken would be a good combo. McCracken is a good guy. I think he would be a good substitute for Adam. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Oh, No Agenda!

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2:45:36 Or maybe just some mutton and mead. Thank you very much for your courage, for your support of the show. It is the only way we can continue when everybody pitches in. And go to noageneration.com slash rings. You deserve it, my friend. You definitely deserve it. So this week marks the 100th anniversary of the beginning of World War One, kind of by the shooting of the, the shooting in Serbia of the, the Archduke or whatever it was. Remember? Sure. Yeah. So they're putting up a big, I got this, unfortunately the clip says A00, but it should say 100 year anniversary.

2:46:18 So they're putting up a statue of... Now, you remember World War I, when it broke out, killed I don't know how many millions and millions of people and led directly to World War II. Do I want to say, I have a feeling it's like 20 or 25 million people? Some outrageous number. And the World War II killed millions and millions of people, but it was not a fun era. World War II was a bummer. Well, World War I was too. So it was all part of the same thing. It was the trench war, yeah? The World War I. World War I. Fought in the trenches, yes. And it was like people were dying of all kinds of things and then it led to the Spanish flu epidemic. Yeah, of 1918, which was... Right, when everyone was sick and they came home and made everyone else sick. Another 15 million people died. So play this clip because they're putting up a statue in Serbia or Bosnia, or one of the two sides of the river,

2:47:11 to the guy who was the assassin because he's a big hero. 100 years ago today a single shot changed the course of history. Archduke Francis Ferdinand of Austria-Hungary was killed on June 28th 1914 sparking the First World War. Ethnic and national claims still resonate in the region and Serbs say they're boycotting the commemorations this Saturday in Sevrijevo accusing Bosnian officials of politicizing today's ceremony. In a search quarter of the Bosnian capital. Meanwhile, a new statue was unveiled of Gavrilo Princip, the man who killed the Archduke, a man served nationalists hail as a hero. Excellent. What the hell? This this guy was responsible for more deaths. I mean, it's not as though this thing wasn't going to maybe get triggered some other way. Right. You have to assume that's the case. It's like the Kristallnacht of World War One. Yeah. But still.

2:48:09 Well, there is something up with this World War I. I saw briefly this morning while I was prepping, I saw the anti-constitutionalist Fareed Zakaria on CNN. Were you, were you doomsday prepping? I was doomsday prepping for the show. Getting my ham gear in my go bag with my massive quantities of ammo, my high capacity magazines. And they were talking about the similarities between 1912... no, when did the first World War break out? 1914. 1914. Actually, I think they were saying 1914 and 2014, but they really meant a little bit earlier, I guess. And the main... again, I'm just kind of out of the corner of my eye and I recorded it so I'll be able to check that for Thursday's show.

2:49:03 It appears that they were talking about, you know, the hatred for the Germans. And that we're now seeing a very...this is part of our Deutschland Blitzkrieg that we've noticed. It appears that there is a similarity now that we're in 2014, we're also...the Germans are the problem. And they're openly talking about this now. And people are picking up stories. I got a couple stories. Young German neo-Nazis are appropriating Brooklyn hipsterdom. That's pretty blatant. Nipsters, the German neo-Nazis trying to put a hipper face on hate. This is Rolling Stone magazine. So they're called nipsters. Nazi hipsters. German shops now to sell Mein Kampf for the first time since 1945 when the copyright... the copyright is now expiring. Social media. Why do Germans shun Twitter?

2:50:11 There's something going on that is not okay. Well, we got to find what PR agencies behind this German hatred thing I do have one clip Germany fires Verizon, which is was played big in the van cat station, right? Where is it? Oh here it is. Yeah, this this was pretty big The German government has canceled its contract with a US telecom Amy Goodman Yeah. No, I'm just saying it's Amy Goodman, not Van Patten. The German government has canceled its contract with the U.S. telecommunications firm Verizon amidst concerns over NSA spying. Reports based on leaks by Edward Snowden revealed vast NSA spying in Germany, including on Chancellor Angela Merkel's cell phone.

2:50:59 Verizon provided services for German government agencies. But in a statement Thursday, Germany's Interior Ministry said, quote, the links revealed between foreign intelligence agencies and firms after the NSA affair show that the German government needs a high level of security for its essential networks. Oh, absolutely. It should have been Deutsche Telekom all along. It should never have been Verizon. No, I agree with that. Can't blame them. So we do have to keep our eye on this. Yeah, we've got to start getting more stuff. We should have at least a couple pieces every show until we can kind of figure out. I think the more we play, the more we'll figure it out. Well, we know, of course, that the Germans are all over Snowden's asylum. Also, you know, Merkel's a friend of Putin. Yeah, yeah, there's that. Oh, I got some real good insight to the Polish blowjob comment.

2:51:53 Now do you recall this from from Thursday show vaguely? Yeah, so we secretly recorded tape between the foreign minister and Two politicians came out and he says, you know, you know the Americans all we do is he give him blowjobs We get nothing in return. I know what this is about now from our Polish contingent. Okay, what this is about? Esta the visa waiver program Poland is the only country that is in the Schengen Agreement. The Schengen Agreement is this borders agreement in the EU. They're the only country who are not in the ESTA visa waiver program. So they have to get a visa to come here? Yes. And all the Polish people that live in Illinois, Pennsylvania and all over the place? So here's the problem. Nancy Pelosi

2:52:46 She was part of the, when they put this ESTA in place, she said, well, no country can be part of the ESTA system if they have more than 10% rejection rate of visa applications. Now, there's a couple of different explanations for this, and I will give you the ones that I've been given. If you really look into it, and by the way, Chile is in the visa waiver program, Hungary, Czech Republic, Lithuania, Slovakia, Estonia. I mean, you'd think that Poland would be okay to be in there. Well actually, you'd think Brazil would be too, but it's not. Well Brazil's not, and that's why Brazil has also said F you to America. It's very hard to get a, or it's difficult to get a visa for Brazil if you're an American citizen.

2:53:39 Well, it's not that difficult. It just takes a while and it costs you a hundred bucks. It can be, um, it can be more difficult. Well, I've got, believe me, I've gotten at least a dozen Brazilian visas and it's not that hard. When's the last time you got one? About two years ago. Okay. Well, it may have gotten a little harder with some of the, uh, people. If you've been, if you keep giving, I think if you're a repeat customer, it's not a big deal, but they do bitch about it. Um, so Poland, Apparently, the reason why they are at 11 or 12% rejection rate...

2:54:16 is, you know, there's a couple questions you have to answer for your visa. One is, have you ever been arrested? And, you know, some official reasoning is, well, you know, back in the day, you know, there's a lot of, you know, the communist crap, people were getting arrested all the time. If you answer that question honestly, you know, that's an automatic deny. But also, you know, I think the people in Poland believe, And we do in Poland. There's a lot for us. We're putting their there. We put missiles in there and Obama goes over there. We're like, yeah, we're the only ones that were fighting on Bush's side and some of this. Yeah. Right. So. So I understand what they're saying. Like, wait, we blow America. We let them do anything they want. But we can't just be in the visa waiver program.

2:55:02 And there is a deeper context to this, and this is not what I believe. I don't know. I'm telling you what I've been told, and I think it's important because this is another factoid or piece of information you could never bring up on a program with advertisers. There is a a theory amongst Poles that there's a lot of Jews in American government hate the Poles and this is how Nancy Pelosi comes into the story and they want to make it as difficult as possible. They don't want Polish coming to America. So there's a whole anti-semitic thing going on there in Poland.

2:55:49 Huh. Interesting, right? Well, there is that element. I know that the, you find this if you, in Chicago, which used to be blacks and Poles and Jewish groups, and there was a three main ethnic groups before the Mexicans took over the place. And the commentary was always that the Jews are irked at the Polish for not doing anything to stand up to Hitler and then take the Jews. You know, there was some belief that the Polish actually encouraged it. And I think this is a long-standing... Yeah, this is one of those, yeah. I think it's one of those deals. I actually have it here. Let's see. Wikipedia entry of Maus, M-A-U-S, graphic novel.

2:56:40 in which pig is equated to pole. Poles are pigs to Jews, i.e. the most despised animal in their religion. It's stupid as Poland was tolerant to Jews. This is from an insider I got this from. 3.3 million Jews lived in Poland before World War II, one to two million more than any other country. It was Germans who performed the Holocaust, but Jews have some stupid idea. This is, again, I'm just reading this, have some stupid idea the Poles were helping the Germans, which is a lie. If you look at the Wikipedia, and of course Wikipedia is now the truth apparently, rescue of Jews by Poles during the Holocaust. Note Poland was the only German occupied country that was helping Jews who were punished by death. You have the list of righteous among the nations by country. There's a lot of... Yeah, demon Nazi propaganda, that would be a good one. Thank you. There's a lot of deep-rooted issues.

2:57:34 But this is a... I had no idea. This is a very... The polls are very angry, very angry about it. Well, they should bring it up more in conversation. Every time we ask to do them a favor, you know, oh, here's what we need from you guys. Yeah, it's like, stop this. But you know, I understand. All these countries are part of the waiver program, and then it's like, oh, you can't come in? You know, I know a lot of Polish people. I like them here. And what is wrong with us, with our immigration? What is our problem? Are we an immigration country? Well, only if you sneak in.

2:58:22 Well, it is true, you know, if you come in on a tourist visa or the ESTA waiver and you overstay and you don't leave, that's how you essentially get your green card and you can become a citizen. But maybe this is... we don't really talk about this immigration stuff on the show because I really don't understand what is the problem? What is everyone afraid of? Is it because we've become such a welfare state that now everyone wants to keep everyone else away so they won't get their shit? That's not how it used to be. Well, it never used to be a welfare state either. Thank you. Well, that's what I'm saying. It never used to be a welfare state and you came here and you either made it by working hard, fitting into some kind of part of a system, or you had to leave because it didn't work out. And if you really worked hard, that was the American dream.

2:59:11 And now it's just getting by, and we got minimum wage jacking up, and we got all these programs. I don't understand. What are we supposed to do? Well, I don't know. I think you're going to just have to stew in your own juices. Shut up! Okay. So what if I told you some really famous guy who started Westwood One has cloned something that probably dates back seven years, is very old-fashioned. What website, if I was to describe a website to you, tell me what website this would be.

2:59:49 It's got a bunch of different podcasts on it that are really not the company's podcast But they have them all on the home page and you can click on any one of them. Okay? Yeah, and a background is black Oh always got to be black. Yes, that's that's great these kinds of podcast systems and these other podcasts alien podcasts are all aggregated and I guess it's black background. Oh, really? Okay. And then you could make like your own show, you could stream like a bunch of different podcasts, and then you could slip advertising into the... In between the podcasts or in the podcast itself? Yeah, something like that. I don't know if you can do it in the podcast or not. So let's talk to the famous Norm Paddis. Oh, I know Norm. I've met Norm. Well, he has cloned Podshow.

3:00:37 Really now? All you have to do is go, well, first play the thing. This is Norm Paddis on podcasting. No single radio owner could own more than five radio stations, five AMs and five FMs. That's not in a market that was in the country. So there were no 400 pound gorillas. You know, if you were in the business of producing shows like I was, there was always somebody, if you had a decent program, that was probably gonna give you access to most of the markets in the country. That's not the case today. with deregulation. Major radio groups can have virtually limitless ownership of stations in markets and it's not unusual to have one station owner own five, six, seven, eight, ten stations.

3:01:20 eight, ten radio stations in the market. So the competition among individual stations and individual formats is not nearly what it used to be. And consequently, it's very, very difficult for independent producers to get the kind of distribution that you need to be able to have a national audience to sell to national advertisers who are the primary way that our programs get funded. So podcast one, what's your business model? How does it work? Wait a minute. Podcast one, podcast one. What's your business model? Let me guess. Hmm. Let me think. You know what? I just have to hear what this guy's going to say. Hello.

3:02:01 Hello, it's 2004 calling for Norm Padas. It's very simple. I mean, it's very much like the old Westwood one business model when when we started syndicated radio programs Sponsored by national advertisers was not an industry. There were a few of them, you know, but it wasn't an industry we consolidated basically we didn't consolidate it, what we did is we aggregated content. And then we started producing our own content. And then we went out to the advertising community, evangelized and made them aware of an opportunity for national distribution of their radio commercials to an audience which they weren't seeking. We're doing the same thing with

3:02:44 Audio on Demand, we're podcasting. We're going to them, we're explaining what it is we do, how we reach a really huge audience. I mean, our programs are downloaded over 120 million times per month. That's a big number and it's a big opportunity. It's a big opportunity to talk to a lot of people and to reach a lot of consumers and start out by being supported by the advertising industry, but then develop long tail approaches which may not require advertising in order to be supported. May simply

3:03:23 require, you know, subscriptions from people who really want to consume that program. Bingo! Boom shakalaka! Yeah! Wow! All right! That is the famous Norm Patus recreating a business model which has... is known to not work! Years ago. Known to not work. How's that going to work out, Norm, when you have Toyota and you've got some guy saying, well, you know, I heard that Poland is angry about blowing America and not getting in the visa waiver program. Here's how it goes, Norm. Okay, let's see.

3:04:03 Hey, hello, Norm? Yeah, yeah. Norm. Yeah, hey, this is Tom down in... I'm the chief revenue officer. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Norm, you know this podcast One Thing You've Got Going On? Yeah. We really liked it and we got the sales material out there and... Fantastic. You know, the upfront was great. We got a lot of buy-in. And Toyota, you know, they're having a little problem with this show you have. Like, I know... Oh, no, we're brand safe. Well, maybe we have a different understanding of brand safe, Norm, because this thing about Jews and, you know, Poles, it didn't go over well with the car companies. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm telling you, this is so stupid. Go look at his page and you'll see what it is. Wait a minute, let me guess, podcastone.com? It's something like that, yeah. And it looks like Pod Show circa 2003.

3:05:00 And I guess he seems like he's Ron Bloom reincarnate. The Brody Jenner podcast. Oh wait, let me guess. He must be a Kardashian. Yeah, I bet she is. Well, they have a bunch of, they have all the regular podcasts. The Snooki podcast. They do some of their own, they do a few of their own, and they're all these horror, but they don't download for crap. Oh, they have the Adam Carolla show here. Yeah, that's the aggregation part of it. Makes it look as though he's like producing Adam Carolla when Adam Carolla has his own network. Are we on here? No, we can't be on here. No, we're not on. Have you checked? No, we talked too much about the Polish blowjob. I gotta get on. What, we're banned? There's no agenda in here. We're banned. Not brand safe. Five simple steps to listen. Let's see. Oh, Kathie Lee Gifford explain... Oh, hold on a second, John. Stop the presses.

3:05:55 There we go. Kath, let me just get... let me put this on the proper machine here. This is... oh my goodness. We're so lucky. Kathie Lee Gifford is going to explain how easy it is to listen to a podcast. Let me patch her in. I didn't know she was a... Good luck getting it to stream at all. Yeah, what's a YouTube video? So hi everybody I'm Kathy Lee Gifford and today I want to demonstrate for you in five simple ways Easy it is for you to listen to my new weekly podcast on your mobile device. I hear by apologize to the universe For allowing this to take place. I'm sorry that it has come to this and

3:06:41 This is the jump-the-shark moment of podcasting. Step 1. Using your smartphone or tablet, download the free Podcast One app from either the iTunes App Store or Android Marketplace. Remember, it's free. It's free! Step 2. Launch the now downloaded app on your mobile device. Launch it! Even I can do that. Okay, so you shouldn't be having any problems yet. You're stupid. Step 3. Locate the Kathy Lee and Company show page by either scrolling down or utilizing the search feature. Search feature. Wow. Step four, select the episode and guest interview you would most like to listen to. And that's going to be the hard part, you guys. Yeah, because it's so good. Because I've had so many amazing guests come on my podcast. So use your time wisely. Choose the one you like best. And then listen to another one. Let's do another one. And step five.

3:07:36 There is no step five. And this, I can't help you with. You're going to have to do this on your own. Enjoy your podcast, Kathie Lee and Company, with whatever guest you picked. And then go through the whole thing again. Pick another one. Go ahead and live a little. Enjoy life. Hey, John, go ahead. Live a little. I do. Yeah. Pick one. Live a little. The No Agenda Podcast. Oh, thank you very much. That's, you know, I can handle a lot. You know, we're killing brown people everywhere, but this, this is depressing. This is very bad. I thought you'd get a kick out of it. I'm not sure how I'm supposed to feel about this. I wouldn't mind if they put our show in their directory.

3:08:20 Yeah, probably get no views anyway, so what there is doesn't make I think it's yeah, let me play this clip I'm sure this clip will get us into the podcast one store We heard an account from a former nurse at Broadmoor who when they were a student Had a conversation with Saville at night. It was a quiet night and Saville was talking to this student nurse about What happened when it was quiet at least general infirmary? and said that he went to the mortuary at night and played with the bodies and committed sex acts on them. Bingo! Boomshakalaka! This is so good. This story gets better and better. What is this? That's Jimmy Savile. This is now the new... Oh, Savile was one of those guys who's a necrophiliac. Yeah. There was a club in New York. I could hear... This was passed around.

3:09:11 Actually, I have to check on some names to make sure these people are all dead because you can only talk about them when they're dead. But there was a necrophiliac club in New York City that was in the back of a mortuary. No! Really? It was going to be in the biography of Hans von Bülow because apparently he was one of the members along with a couple of very famous American playwrights. and some others, and they would go into this place. It was set up with a back door. There's a lot of crazy clubs in New York, and this is one of them. And I think this just goes on in some of these joints. That's pretty weird. It's weird. Hey, who died this week? Two quick things about the United Kingdom of Gitmo Nations before we get out of here. It's my job to keep us on time. Two very disturbing items.

3:10:01 The UK column, which is a...I think the UK column is more a website than anything, and they publish alternative news. They're definitely anti-mainstream. And they also do a...I think it's a monthly or maybe even a quarterly podcast. Just a video basically on YouTube. And they received a letter from ATVOD. This is the Authority for Television on Demand, a subsidiary of Ofcom, which is essentially the UK's FCC. So it's AtVod as they're known. Yeah, we're heading this way. This is the podcast license. Gave notice to UK Column that as a result of a statutory instrument amendment to the 2003 Communications Act,

3:10:50 UK Column is required to notify the Authority for Television On Demand that it was running an on-demand program service and they have to pay a fee and they need to submit to regulation. Apparently because the program they produce is quote television-like. And they've put a very funny video where they're sitting in the car with a baby seat and they're saying, oh let's not make it too television-like because then we're getting in trouble. Really? Oh yeah. At present, AdVod claims to exist in order to prevent harmful material becoming available to children and to prevent hate speech.

3:11:29 That's why it has to be regulated, of course. So any... this is how I read this... any... Coming to here. Yeah, any video on demand service, television video on demand, needs to be regulated to prevent harmful material for children and hate speech. Anyone submitting to the current light regulatory framework joins a fluid and evolving regulatory framework with potentially draconian financial penalties. The penalties allowed for this at VOD through the Communications Act of 2003 amounts to 5% of the regulated organization's turnover, which I think is gross, or 250,000 pounds, whichever is the greater amount

3:12:11 Yikes, and so they got an enforcement note this even though they they really are blog, you know a big I think they also print something quarterly They gave the UK column 10 working days to comply with the demands And become part of the regular regulated Wow. What a great way to shut people up and yeah, and you're absolutely right. I mean to us come into us you bet very And we need more people need to be talking about this Now it's not their main business, so it's not going to hurt them. But what's next? Who's next? Well let's see, what other video people that we know

3:12:56 personally, that produce a product, a video product, and they use the video only on TV, lower third. Yes, that's very television-like. A little name comes underneath you, and it just fades in and fades out. It seems like television to me. Yeah, television-like. And you get that little thing in the corner that says full screen. And even better, if you say it's video on demand, that would be the definition of what they regulate, video on demand. You need to be very careful with these things. I want to make very clear, we're a podcast, we're Little Itty Bitty Podcast, but we do have podcastlicense.com. Yes. And then... We were self-regulating. And then there was a, and this is also from the UK, which seems to be beta for everything New World Order.

3:13:46 They have been looking at having the transportation system, but in particular the bus services in London go cashless. And they came out with a consultation report from the mayor of London. Essentially they asked people, what do you think about going cashless? You know, so not being able to pay for the bus with cash, which of course is a war on cash. And here's the questions they asked. One, do you agree with the proposal, yes or no? Two, if no, please tell us why and what we can do to make the proposal acceptable, which is essentially a fait accompli right there. So if you don't like it, how can we make it so you do like it? And three, do you currently use cash, yes or no? Well, overwhelmingly, 25,367% of the respondents said no, they do not want the buses to be cashless.

3:14:44 And 32% said yes, we do. The people... Now it wasn't actually a lot of people who used cash who didn't agree. This is pointed out in this survey. And again, this is a fait accompli. It's going to happen no matter what. This is just how can we make it easier for you to understand that you need to live in a world without cash. The most common reason for disagreeing with the proposal amongst cash users was their lack of familiarization with Oyster. Now, Oyster is the very big disputed card. It's been hacked in the Netherlands. It's complete tracking. It tracks you everywhere. It's RFID. It is a slave ID is what it is. Other non-cash users were worried about the impact on other people such as tourists, visitors and lone travelers.

3:15:31 And broadly, a third of people who responded welcomed the proposal as a way to maintain bus service and keep fares down. Because they were told it will mean faster journey times, more reliable service. It will reduce crime associated with cash transactions and moving cash around. And savings will help keep fares down and services running. Now here's what is interesting, what I noticed as I read through this consultation. They have a nice document about 15 pages. The way they're going to usher this in, which I think is very interesting, this card, one of the main points is people who need to make unplanned journeys, such as hospital or to get home from the hospital, people have vehicles that are broken home, if they don't have an Oyster card, so you don't have this slave ID card, then you can't participate in the system. Cash is no longer valid.

3:16:20 and they had all these stakeholders. So now we're done with the citizens. Thank you very much. You don't agree. We're going to find a way to make it agreeable for you. And here is the main point that kept cropping up amongst all the stakeholders. Here's the GLA Transport Committee. We would want those without bank accounts not being able to automatically top up, and lower income households should be able to go into negative balance on the card. You see what's happening here, John? Yeah, they're turning your travel ID into a credit card. Every single one of them says you should be allowed to go into negative balance on your trip. So if you didn't have enough money then that's okay don't worry about it we'll just credit you. And this is

3:17:11 Very, very dangerous. In one fell swoop, they are removing cash from a very important part of the system and turning that into a credit facility, which I'm sure will be extended in many different ways. It's just the beginning. This is just the tip that's being slipped in. And the conclusion is, we believe a robust plan is in place to respond to the concerns people have raised in the consultation and are proposing the following mitigations. And right there at the top, the rollout of a new Oyster feature allowing passenger with insufficient funds to go into negative balance. This is really the beginning of the end. No, well, it's been the beginning of the end for a long time.

3:18:07 But we've talked about cashless societies, and that's what they love that idea because then you really screwed if they want to you know, huh, you know you want to Keep the guy from going anywhere you get the turn off that car off his card off. Yeah, Curtis car car Turn his car off. Turn his car off. Turn his car off. Right. And then turn everything else off and then just tell him that he better get, you know, I don't know what, I mean, you can just, there's too much control from the government. Government control of the individual's singular activities. Going from point A to point B, I can't even do it. No. Wow. It's ridiculous to society if you get to that point. That's what everything is headed to. I mean, as far as I can tell. Why would you have something like that? Because it's costing too much money to count the money? Well, we've been convinced, and it's a part of the whole phone and wearables and everything, that cash is lame. It's outdated. It's wrong. It makes no sense. It's dirty. Yes, it makes no sense. You can't have cash. This is stupid.

3:19:11 Well, there you go. Well, good luck. I got one more if you want. I don't know what you want to do. Oh, might as well. Show's going too long. No, it's not. We're perfect three hours. You want to quit? No, no, I want to hear this last thing. Okay. It's a two-parter. Uh-oh. This is the Alan Cohn. He is responsible for the Quadrennial Homeland Security Review. And this is the Department of Homeland Security and they have to do a review of all these incredible important programs that they are running through. What does quadrennial mean? I think it's once every four years. That's what it sounds like. Yeah, it's like the World Cup.

3:19:59 Well, it was at the same time as the World Cup, so every time there's a World Cup we know there's going to be one of these. Yeah, it'll be easy to remember. Yeah. And so he, and of course I watch his two hours of this talk that he gave, and it was just, the people in the audience were clearly trying to figure out how to make money off of this. And here's a couple of pieces that I picked up and in particular this notion which I need to discuss. And in the review and a companion document soon to be released, we talk about the different models and archetypes, the ways of thinking about interests and outcomes and aligning them under common archetypes and models.

3:20:43 And we do this as a tool not only for ourselves But for the entire enterprise to think about how we can use public-private partnerships most effective I love this by the way public-private partnerships and which means all these commercial companies working and sharing with the government Your information your data to protect you from yourself. I guess Lee to reach our common ends our renewed emphasis on countering terrorism using an improvised nuclear device on advancing rational common common sense comprehensive immigration Love this is our improvised nuclear device common sense regulatory framework for immigration form and advancing national preparedness and resilience under the mechanisms of the national preparedness system the post-katrina emergency management reform act the presidential preparedness directive aid all of which set up a comprehensive national preparedness system

3:21:41 for prevention, protection, mitigation, response, and recovery. You are now in the system, citizen. Presidential Policy Directive 8. Ah, okay. The term national preparedness refers to the actions taken to plan, organize, equip, train, and exercise, and build and sustain capabilities necessary to prevent, protect against, mitigate the effects of, respond to, and recover from those threats that pose the greatest risk to the security of the nation. The term security refers to the protection of the nation and its people, vital interests, and way of life. That's pretty broad, eh? We need security for our way of life. Well, I would say my way of life is being hampered by this security. I can't travel normal anymore. The term resilience refers to the ability... This is all from President Obama's PPD-8. The term resilience refers to the ability to adapt to changing conditions and withstand and rapidly recover from disruption due to emergencies.

3:22:41 And the term prevention refers to those capabilities necessary to avoid, prevent, or stop a threatened or actual act of terrorism. Prevention capabilities include, but are not limited to, information sharing and warning, domestic counter-terrorism, and preventing the acquisition or use of weapons of mass destruction, which we know is qualified as pretty much a cherry bomb, is a weapon of mass destruction by the definition. For purposes of the prevention framework called for in this directive, the term prevention refers to preventing imminent threats. And then there's a couple more, but I wanted to talk for a moment about this concept of the improvised nuclear device, also known as a dirty bomb.

3:23:31 And Atomic Rod Adams, I promise this, has a great post on his Atomic Insights blog from Larry Grimm. Larry Grimm is a former Navy officer who has dealt specifically with nuclear devices and with what we would understand as improvised nuclear devices or dirty bombs. And there's a little...I just want to pick a few quotes from this great article. He has 27 years experience working with a wide variety of radioactive materials and their uses. His personal insights help, he wants to help equip citizens with what he considers the most effective tool available in the fight against terrorism. So, what is a radiological dispersion device or what we would call a dirty bomb? When you hear dirty bomb, John, what do you think as a

3:24:24 And I, by the way, I thought the same probably as you. As a citizen, what do you think this is? What does it mean? Somebody's got a bomb, and they pack it with a bunch of radiologic waste, like from the hospital, or so maybe they can get some uranium dust, or maybe they have plutonium, be kind of cool. And then they pack it around the bomb, then you light the bomb up and it makes a mess and blows this crap all over the place. And what is the actual danger of the crap that's blown all over the place? It's radioactive. Yeah. Well, it's like a health hazard depends on the stuff. It's plutonium. It would not be good So here's what he's saying He's saying a way so this is a weapon designed to spread radioactive material over an area radioactive materials can be spread by a conventional Dirty bomb an aerosol device or through waterways. What is the biggest concern from a radiological dispersion device? two things number one the irrational fear it can induce and number two the expense of the cleanup and

3:25:21 The possibility of radiation actually hurting anyone is quite small in a dirty bomb example. I like this. Fear and panic kill people. Radioactive materials are chemicals. Sometimes it's easy to clean them up, sometimes it's not. For example, cleaning oil off concrete is hard, but picking up chunks of metal is easy. If you suspect a chemical agent is used in a dirty bomb, do not seek shelter in a low space like a basement. Most chemicals are heavier than air and will settle in low spaces. If it goes off in your area, there are four simple protection techniques. Containment control, distance, shielding, and time. Radioactive materials are rarely immediately life-threatening. People think when you say dirty bomb, I guarantee you most people think it's like Hiroshima, you know what I mean? Like a big mushroom cloud or something. I disagree with that. Really? I think, oh, I totally thought that. No. It's been explained to death on these shows. Really? I have never heard this explanation.

3:26:22 He said in most cases it would be essentially the effect of an x-ray at moderate distance. Probably, yeah. It depends. Now if it's plutonium... I disagree with that too, because if it's plutonium and it gets in particle form, I mean you breathe in one particle or a couple particles and you're subject to all kinds of problems. He says in 99.999% of radiation exposures no effect is felt or seen. If I went towards the blast area to help someone, I would not fear the radiation. However, I would be cautious and respectful of the radiation. There should probably be less radiation at the blast spot. Therefore, I would use the following techniques no matter if I was escaping the area, trapped in the area, or going in to help. Keep radioactive chemicals off and out of your body. Button up clothing and wear a mask. However, if I need to be near the source, I make sure I'm downwind of the source.

3:27:16 Now, there could be a nasty chemical associated with a radioactive bomb. So even if I felt slightly ill, I would seek medical help immediately. Distance. Even in the worst bomb scenario, you'd be safe from the radiation if you get just a couple blocks away and get upwind of the potential airborne material. Think of it as standing next to a campfire. Don't get too close to the heat radiation. It could burn you. But if far enough away, you do not get any heat. Exactly like a campfire, you do not want to be in the smoke, so get upwind. I didn't know any of this. Okay, and I think I've been propagandized about these dirty bombs dirty bomb remember that the the con the senator we're listening to but dirty bombs we can't just Well, I don't know how you missed of the memo Well, it doesn't make any sense to me that you think that be honest about it. I

3:28:05 I've never really thought about it, but I was just kind of assumed... I think I saw some movies or something about a dirty bomb and eventually everybody dies. You can't help it. It's just a matter of time. And I don't know. I was pleasantly surprised. Like, oh, that doesn't sound too bad. I can put that in my go bag as a doomsday prepper. Get a mask. A mask is a good idea. A gas mask, I presume. I was surprised. I'm glad that you finally came to your senses on this matter. I think it is being overused to terrorize people for sure. It's all about terrorizing the public. Everything is. In fact, Dirty Bomb's mentioned over and over and over again recently and then you brought it up. I'm now thinking it's some sort of an ongoing meme because someone's gonna set one of these things off on the six-week cycle.

3:29:02 Somehow, I just don't see that happening. Well, it could be thwarted. A dirty bomb about to go off. This time they're not going to screw it up like they did in Boston and thwart the explosion. And it's going to be a huge scandal. And then all the shows for the next two weeks are going to be, what if? You know what? It'll be great for podcast one. Kathy Lee can do hours of material about it. Podcast one. Okay, I'm done. Me too. I'm glad you got that audio out of your system. Well, I hope someone learned from that. I had no idea. Clearly, all I need to do is just ask you in the future. Well, in that case... Where do babies come from?

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